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Let me guess: young women who are taxidermy enthusiasts tend to have dads who are taxidermists or, at minimum, hunters.

Personally, I find it heart-warming that a lot of women who are in non-feminine professions tend to be the daughters of beloved fathers in the same business. But nobody else seems to notice.

 
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  1. Ms. Kaye is doing some serious humble-bragging. Oh, it’s so hard to be a taxidermist when you’re young and beautiful like me! Everyone wants to talk about my appearance instead of my creepy dead animals!

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Cloudbuster

    Think of it as the world's most elaborate personals ad, like rhythmic gymnastics.

    , @JimDandy
    @Cloudbuster

    Meanwhile, you know, a black guy in Chicago forced a woman into her doorway with a knife and forced her to perform a sex act. But... never mind, let's talk about the trials and travails and heroic perseverance of female taxidermists some more.

    https://cwbchicago.com/2019/12/man-charged-with-west-town-armed-robbery-sexual-assault.html

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @anon

  2. I actually wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of it was genuine and they don’t have a father who did it in a lot of cases like the ones profiled here. Women have started to peruse weird passion hobbies they’d never have contemplated in the past. This is particularly true if the thing in question has a kind of arts and crafts angle which taxidermy can represent. The women profiled might not be ‘old men in sheds’ as they derived but they are pretty weird themselves, possibly more eccentric than the average male taxidermist.

    What gets me is the idea that somehow somebody was stopping women becoming taxidermists or that anyone cares if there are women taxidermists or not. There seems to be a lot of this fretting in certain fields about ‘stereotypes’ of the field. But really, what does that amount to? You go a party and say you do something not typically associated with your age, sex, ethnicity/race and what? People find you slightly more interesting.

    Though it does give this Friday Night Dinner scene about getting ‘a man’ to get the fox stuffed some added fun.

  3. BBC News – The women who are killing it in taxidermy

    Now, it’s only a matter of time before Psycho gets retconned with a female lead and a daughter-father storyline.

    • Replies: @Realist
    @PiltdownMan

    Yes, these women have desires to perform their craft on an ex husband.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @PiltdownMan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFYFP5mJ0o

    Replies: @Anon, @El Dato

    , @Sue D. Nim
    @PiltdownMan

    There the scene where Janet Leigh is looking at all the stuffed birds and Anthony Perkins says "I like stuffing things."

    Always makes me laugh.

  4. Mike Tre [AKA "MikeatMikedotMike"] says:

    “But nobody else seems to notice.”

    I’m assuming that by “nobody” you mean the writers employed by the news publications you scan for material.

  5. Is it really non-feminine, though? Women love feathers and fur, and they have an eye for detail. They’re also good at seeing the “personality” in things. Seems like these would all be good traits in a taxidermist.

    Might take the girls some time to get the hang of it.

    • Replies: @Rouetheday
    @Bill P

    My orange tabby makes the same face when I try to clip his claws.

    , @Spangel
    @Bill P

    Agree. It’s kind of like doll making in theory. Doesn’t seem inherently non feminine.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    , @Red Pill Angel
    @Bill P

    My thought too: women's talents are almost always highly detail-oriented. There's even sewing involved in taxidermy. An evolutionary biologist I know employed a young black woman (who wore long fake nails) who did exquisite taxidermy on tiny shrews, under a low-power microscope! He couldn't figure out how she did it with the nails, but she did.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    , @El Dato
    @Bill P

    I wonder whether there are women building WWII dioramas?

  6. As the late, great Benny Hill put it:

    “Preserve Wild-Life – Pickle a Squirrel Today”.

  7. @Cloudbuster
    Ms. Kaye is doing some serious humble-bragging. Oh, it's so hard to be a taxidermist when you're young and beautiful like me! Everyone wants to talk about my appearance instead of my creepy dead animals!

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @JimDandy

    Think of it as the world’s most elaborate personals ad, like rhythmic gymnastics.

  8. @Bill P
    Is it really non-feminine, though? Women love feathers and fur, and they have an eye for detail. They're also good at seeing the "personality" in things. Seems like these would all be good traits in a taxidermist.

    Might take the girls some time to get the hang of it.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/00d654ef6ae0145394e46f70ad388219/tumblr_ngg7zpWUwM1qze1jro1_1280.png

    Replies: @Rouetheday, @Spangel, @Red Pill Angel, @El Dato

    My orange tabby makes the same face when I try to clip his claws.

    • LOL: Rosie
  9. Dunno about taxidermy, but the female percentage of hunters has gone up quite a bit in the last couple of decades. Some firearms manufacturers are making rifles and shotguns designed to fit women.

    • Replies: @Neoconned
    @prosa123

    The number & percentage of hunters is going down though....few years back the local paper had state officials b**ching about fewer hunters and thus less revenue for game wardens to play with

    Replies: @Prosa123

  10. @Bill P
    Is it really non-feminine, though? Women love feathers and fur, and they have an eye for detail. They're also good at seeing the "personality" in things. Seems like these would all be good traits in a taxidermist.

    Might take the girls some time to get the hang of it.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/00d654ef6ae0145394e46f70ad388219/tumblr_ngg7zpWUwM1qze1jro1_1280.png

    Replies: @Rouetheday, @Spangel, @Red Pill Angel, @El Dato

    Agree. It’s kind of like doll making in theory. Doesn’t seem inherently non feminine.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Spangel


    It’s kind of like doll making in theory.
     
    In the so-so movie, Dinner for Schmucks, Steve Carell plays a man who is obsessed with making sweet dioramas of stuffed mice living happy lives.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btLAFQHlV58
  11. Just another sign of a dying nation. That is, the fact that the BBC is making a fuss about this and the stupid woke way the women are talking, not that women are doing taxidermy. About which, who cares.

    Also, the squirrel in the cup is revolting.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @peterike


    Also, the squirrel in the cup is revolting.
     
    An apt metaphor for the situation of the European populace.

    Don't go to France right now.

    The pain ... is just beginning.
  12. Dads should let their girls be girls. It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities. It’s selfish and unhealthy. Among other reasons, that’s how we have women in the police and military.

    • Replies: @S. Anonyia
    @BB753

    It’s not that the fathers push them into it...it’s that when there isn’t a son in the family one of the girls will naturally gravitate towards partially fulfilling the male role. It’s possibly some kind of unconscious survival instinct to help preserve the family’s status and property. This happens even in 3rd world countries, and was observed even hundreds of years ago.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @BB753


    Dads should let their girls be girls. It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities. It’s selfish and unhealthy. Among other reasons, that’s how we have women in the police and military.
     
    Some go the other way, though, and protect them. The only presidential candidate in 2016 to speak out against the madness of registering women for Selective Service has two daughters and no sons.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz#Personal_life
    , @TheJester
    @BB753


    It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities.
     
    I noticed the same thing when dating in the 1960s. However, there were also cases in which a daughter (usually one of the older children) was raised as a "son" when the son proved disappointing. The daughter in question was convinced from 8th Grade through the university that I would someday be her husband. I didn't happen because she was too aggressive, competitive, and controlling. I call it "territorial aversion" ... the same thing that demographics of males are currently experiencing with females infected with feminism. It is difficult to live harmoniously with a woman who is always competing with you for territorial control.

    We also have a daughter-in-law who was raised as a "son". She is trying to do the same thing to her only child, our granddaughter. For a time, our daughter-in-law insisted that her daughter wear only blue-themed clothing ... nothing pink. Also, all her toys need a masculine theme: only trucks, airplanes, ships, cars, lego sets, and space ships. The word is out for gifts. Anything feminine is returned.

    As with most feminists enthralled with having a masculine identity (perhaps this is the original genesis of the "trans" movement), one might call this a DSM-level case of "self-loathing" or "self-hate". That would be an accurate description of our daughter-in-law and the movement. Yes, our daughter-in-law's marriage is troubled ... and our granddaughter is suffering from severe emotional problems from which she will probably never recover.

    Life is challenging for girls and women who are taught to loathe being female. The problem is that there is not a realistic option open to them. Nature refuses to cooperate no matter how much they protest and complain. The result is a harrowing cognitive and emotional dissonance from which there is no escape.

    Replies: @BB753

  13. @Bill P
    Is it really non-feminine, though? Women love feathers and fur, and they have an eye for detail. They're also good at seeing the "personality" in things. Seems like these would all be good traits in a taxidermist.

    Might take the girls some time to get the hang of it.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/00d654ef6ae0145394e46f70ad388219/tumblr_ngg7zpWUwM1qze1jro1_1280.png

    Replies: @Rouetheday, @Spangel, @Red Pill Angel, @El Dato

    My thought too: women’s talents are almost always highly detail-oriented. There’s even sewing involved in taxidermy. An evolutionary biologist I know employed a young black woman (who wore long fake nails) who did exquisite taxidermy on tiny shrews, under a low-power microscope! He couldn’t figure out how she did it with the nails, but she did.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Red Pill Angel

    In case you were wondering how to taxidermy a mouse these gals will demonstrate:

    https://youtu.be/OIy8wKZfWcQ

  14. @PiltdownMan

    BBC News – The women who are killing it in taxidermy
     
    Now, it's only a matter of time before Psycho gets retconned with a female lead and a daughter-father storyline.

    https://am23.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2012/08/NormanBates.jpeg

    Replies: @Realist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Sue D. Nim

    Yes, these women have desires to perform their craft on an ex husband.

  15. Yes I dunno if this is a turn on or a turn off lol

  16. @prosa123
    Dunno about taxidermy, but the female percentage of hunters has gone up quite a bit in the last couple of decades. Some firearms manufacturers are making rifles and shotguns designed to fit women.

    Replies: @Neoconned

    The number & percentage of hunters is going down though….few years back the local paper had state officials b**ching about fewer hunters and thus less revenue for game wardens to play with

    • Replies: @Prosa123
    @Neoconned

    That is true, there are fewer hunters overall, but an increasing percentage of those remaining are women.
    Oddly enough, a form of hunting that's growing in popularity are African safaris.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  17. Do woke young women taxidermists and big-game hunters have heads of cis-het white males stuffed and mounted on their walls at home?

    Or is that the next trend BBC News will be promoting?

  18. @PiltdownMan

    BBC News – The women who are killing it in taxidermy
     
    Now, it's only a matter of time before Psycho gets retconned with a female lead and a daughter-father storyline.

    https://am23.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2012/08/NormanBates.jpeg

    Replies: @Realist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Sue D. Nim

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Just backs up my contention that chloroform solves most interpersonal problems.
    Too many men let their pride get in the way. Quit trying to be "Mr. Arguer" all the time, I say.

    , @El Dato
    @Bardon Kaldian

    This is relevant to my interests.

  19. Wouldn’t want that ghoul for a neighbor and around my dog and cat. Maybe she can find a career as an abortionist when she grows up.

  20. “The women are trying to change perceptions”.

    EVRERY WOMYN JOUB COMES WITH AN WORLD WIDE SERIOUS SJW MISSION!!

    • LOL: bomag, Charon
    • Replies: @El Dato
    @El Dato

    This ties into iSteve's observation

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-feminist-inflection-point/

    that



    A big part of The Narrative works like this: at some point in the Bad Old Days, there was much discrimination against women. Today there is less, but it’s a constant grinding battle to eke out a slightly more justice, decade after decade.
     
    The job of Taxidermist is just another bastion that MUST FALL.

    "Drogon! Dracarys!"

    —Daenerys Targaryen to Drogon

     

  21. Surprised that there is a market for grey squirrels. They are like rats. I have found that mummified grey squirrels are a dime a dozen while cleaning out under my porch.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    Grey squirrel meat is not bad, quite dry like duck. A neighbour shot and skinned a few and his wife prepared and roasted them.

    Replies: @songbird

  22. Same insight but a maybe more interesting fact is that church wise, the push for women’s ordination, almost all came from women whose fathers were ministers. Even today a large number of women in mainline protestant seminaries and pulpits are the daughters of minister fathers in more conservative communions. It pops up more often than you might think in church politics that a guy running for a church office gets questioned because his daughter is an ordained minister in the liberal group.

  23. Also, YouTube’s algorithm knows too much about me and proposes that I watch “Hair Love”.

    This is actually wholesome.

  24. @Bill P
    Is it really non-feminine, though? Women love feathers and fur, and they have an eye for detail. They're also good at seeing the "personality" in things. Seems like these would all be good traits in a taxidermist.

    Might take the girls some time to get the hang of it.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/00d654ef6ae0145394e46f70ad388219/tumblr_ngg7zpWUwM1qze1jro1_1280.png

    Replies: @Rouetheday, @Spangel, @Red Pill Angel, @El Dato

    I wonder whether there are women building WWII dioramas?

    • LOL: Charon
  25. Saw that BBC photo and just assumed it was a new Food Network show. Or Iron Chef’s Battle Roadkill

    • Replies: @mmack
    @Known Fact

    Today's secret ingredient IS . . . SQUIRREL!

    So iSteve posters, with an open heart and an empty stomach I say unto you in the words of my uncle, ALLEZ CUISINE!

  26. I know exactly one female who learned taxidermy. Dad was an obsessive working class deer hunter who dressed his girls in camo. Comical how true to Steve’s stereotype.

  27. Who will be the first woman taxidermy pilot?

    • LOL: Charon, El Dato, Dtbb
  28. OT:

    From “let’s talk about my hair” to “let’s talk about my Middle Eastern nose”.

    Jewish journalist claims enlarged nose on Swedish ID photo is anti-Semitic, Twitter says snot so fast

    Afterwards:

    ‘Jews love to lie to get attention’ I’m ready to call it a f-ing day,” she wrote.

    Good.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @El Dato

    They're giving passports to proboscis monkeys in Sweden …….any primate will do!

    , @BB753
    @El Dato

    Photography is anti-semitic.

  29. You are right about girls following their fathers into non-traditional occupations. I taught in an engineering program and often asked students what their fathers did. A majority of girls had a dad in engineering.

    • Replies: @res
    @loc

    Remember that both nature and nurture matter for that. I think iSteve's point is more towards the nurture side.

  30. Tangentially on topic: The weirdest thing about Douglas Brinkley’s environmentally oriented biography of Teddy Roosevelt, Wilderness Warrior, was how into taxidermy the guy was. He studied various techniques, and it was something he just could not delegate. He was doing this stuff up until his death.

  31. So now we’re back to using dead animals as fashion accessories? What next, using their body parts in herbal tea?

    The human race is truly evil.

    • Replies: @Tex
    @ia


    So now we’re back to using dead animals as fashion accessories? What next, using their body parts in herbal tea?
     
    At about noon local time, I'm fixing to use a dead animal's body parts as food. I'm using one as a belt right this moment.
    , @Hypnotoad666
    @ia

    Posted without comment.

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/e136fa337c7a734834ca20106fb58b3c/tumblr_n6o8njMEaj1qze1jro1_1280.jpg

  32. @PiltdownMan

    BBC News – The women who are killing it in taxidermy
     
    Now, it's only a matter of time before Psycho gets retconned with a female lead and a daughter-father storyline.

    https://am23.akamaized.net/tms/cnt/uploads/2012/08/NormanBates.jpeg

    Replies: @Realist, @Bardon Kaldian, @Sue D. Nim

    There the scene where Janet Leigh is looking at all the stuffed birds and Anthony Perkins says “I like stuffing things.”

    Always makes me laugh.

  33. There used to be an antique shop in Edinburgh that was chock-full of macabre taxidermy. It was run by a Wednesday Adams type goth.

  34. OT: But the genius geneticist George Church has returned strong after the failure of his company (Bad timing, sequencing costs are still too high) and looking a bit Julian Assange-ish. Anyway, one of the many new ventures he is engaged with is a dating app that will accept your genome and only show you matches who aren’t also carriers of known rare disease variants. The thinking going that some of these population variants are so rare that even a slight effort to block carriers reproducing with each other will quickly wipe them out of the population. Though some serious conditions have carrier frequencies that are actually quite common, like variants for Cystic Fibrosis.

    George Church: you know, two to five years to get into clinical trials. And then again it could take ten years to get through the clinical trials.

    Church is a role model for the next generation. He has co-founded more than 35 startups. Recently, investors put $100 million into the pig organ work. Another Church startup is a dating app that compares DNA and screens out matches that would result in a child with an inherited disease.

    George Church: You wouldn’t find out who you’re not compatible with. You’ll just find out who you are compatible with.

    Scott Pelley: You’re suggesting that if everyone has their genome sequenced and the correct matches are made, that all of these diseases could be eliminated?

    George Church: Right. It’s 7,000 diseases. It’s about 5% of the population. It’s about a trillion dollars a year, worldwide.

    Despite this involving those who actively wish to avoid reproducing with another carrier of their rare disease variant, the blue ticks are already calling this ‘eugenics’, which it strictly speaking is, but I think they mean to imply something more sinister and involuntary…

    https://twitter.com/indyfromspace/status/1204010902640574467

    If this becomes the norm it could have huge effects on population structure given the larger frequencies of some variants. It is an interesting ethical question, but the immediate effect will be to increase outbreeding, however slightly so I don’t know why blueticks are so annoyed. But maybe it could give rise to more considered thought to genetic pedigree in other ways.

    Most likely this app will be used by people who have a terrible immediate family history with serious rare diseases and are traumatised by this impacting siblings or other relatives and are very serious about not facing it with their own children and it will have very little impact on population structure. It’s childish of these people to not see the service this app might provide for such people, it isn’t a gimmick.

    It also assumes that none of these conditions will not find treatments or cures going forward, lessening the imperative to do something like this. (As happened with some forms of Cystic Fibrosis)

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Altai

    > Harvard is doing eugenics

    Twitterghetto:

    > "Banality of evil" invoked
    > "Gattaca" invoked
    > NYT "Race Science" articles invoked
    > It's EUGENICS (dunno what is but have heard that word in relation to "bad")
    > MUH HITLER!!
    > Oh no people won't be able to date whoever

    , @res
    @Altai


    Despite this involving those who actively wish to avoid reproducing with another carrier of their rare disease variant, the blue ticks are already calling this ‘eugenics’, which it strictly speaking is, but I think they mean to imply something more sinister and involuntary…
     
    It is instructive that nobody seems to have gone after JScreen like that.
    https://jscreen.org/
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-this-eugenics/
  35. Look, women LOVE Minks, right? And if a MAN can get a Mink under his control, then so can WOMEN?

  36. Personally, I find it heart-warming that a lot of women who are in non-feminine professions tend to be the daughters of beloved fathers in the same business.

    At my college, all the girls who majored in physics had fathers who were either physicists or mathematicians. Many of the girls mentioned resenting the pressure their fathers put on them to be scientists. One girl I knew frequently recounted the tense interactions she had with her father whenever she asked him for help on assignments; he couldn’t understand why the answers weren’t obvious too her.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @JimB

    "One girl I knew frequently recounted the tense interactions she had with her father whenever she asked him for help on assignments; he couldn’t understand why the answers weren’t obvious too her."

    Illinois Institute of Technology teacher over a TV-linked course:

    "The answer is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer."

    Replies: @El Dato

    , @Rosie
    @JimB


    Many of the girls mentioned resenting the pressure their fathers put on them to be scientists.
     
    Dads are in a somewhat awkward position. If they push, that can be damaging. If they don't push, that may also be resented. Growing up in a working class family, I wish someone would have taught me a little bit about cars even though I wasn't interested. (Uncles and male cousins all knew how to keep cars running.)

    If you have a son, you're going to insist he learn some basics (scramble eggs, boil pasta, make a grilled cheese sammich, etc.) whether he's interested in cooking or not. The same ought to hold for daughters.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @nebulafox

    , @HammerJack
    @JimB

    Speaking of college, it is now officially ON in California.


    Students, Community Groups Sue University of California to Drop SAT, ACT

    Suit alleges the university discriminates against low-income students, racial minorities and others by relying on standardized-test scores in admissions

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/students-community-groups-sue-university-of-california-to-drop-sat-act-11576008188
     

    Standards of any kind are racist.
    Après nous, le deluge
  37. @ia
    So now we're back to using dead animals as fashion accessories? What next, using their body parts in herbal tea?

    The human race is truly evil.

    Replies: @Tex, @Hypnotoad666

    So now we’re back to using dead animals as fashion accessories? What next, using their body parts in herbal tea?

    At about noon local time, I’m fixing to use a dead animal’s body parts as food. I’m using one as a belt right this moment.

  38. @peterike
    Just another sign of a dying nation. That is, the fact that the BBC is making a fuss about this and the stupid woke way the women are talking, not that women are doing taxidermy. About which, who cares.

    Also, the squirrel in the cup is revolting.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Also, the squirrel in the cup is revolting.

    An apt metaphor for the situation of the European populace.

    Don’t go to France right now.

    The pain … is just beginning.

  39. Nope, you would be wrong on this one. My ex, Geoff Vassallo, the owner of Wilderness Taxidermy, has been doing Taxidermy for over 40 years. Hunting has dropped off here in California, so he has segued into teaching classes. His last few apprentices have been women. He teaches classes of mostly or all women artists. A lot of them are gay. This artist, http://leheartdesign.com/ was given a class as a gift from her wife. She wrote my ex to tell him it changed her life and she found her true passion. You can see from his Jackalope class that the chicks out number the guys 6 to 1. https://paxtongate.com/products/taxidermy-jackalope-class?variant=31257773834330

  40. @Altai
    OT: But the genius geneticist George Church has returned strong after the failure of his company (Bad timing, sequencing costs are still too high) and looking a bit Julian Assange-ish. Anyway, one of the many new ventures he is engaged with is a dating app that will accept your genome and only show you matches who aren't also carriers of known rare disease variants. The thinking going that some of these population variants are so rare that even a slight effort to block carriers reproducing with each other will quickly wipe them out of the population. Though some serious conditions have carrier frequencies that are actually quite common, like variants for Cystic Fibrosis.

    George Church: you know, two to five years to get into clinical trials. And then again it could take ten years to get through the clinical trials.

    Church is a role model for the next generation. He has co-founded more than 35 startups. Recently, investors put $100 million into the pig organ work. Another Church startup is a dating app that compares DNA and screens out matches that would result in a child with an inherited disease.

    George Church: You wouldn't find out who you're not compatible with. You'll just find out who you are compatible with.

    Scott Pelley: You're suggesting that if everyone has their genome sequenced and the correct matches are made, that all of these diseases could be eliminated?

    George Church: Right. It's 7,000 diseases. It's about 5% of the population. It's about a trillion dollars a year, worldwide.
     
    Despite this involving those who actively wish to avoid reproducing with another carrier of their rare disease variant, the blue ticks are already calling this 'eugenics', which it strictly speaking is, but I think they mean to imply something more sinister and involuntary...

    https://twitter.com/indyfromspace/status/1204010902640574467

    If this becomes the norm it could have huge effects on population structure given the larger frequencies of some variants. It is an interesting ethical question, but the immediate effect will be to increase outbreeding, however slightly so I don't know why blueticks are so annoyed. But maybe it could give rise to more considered thought to genetic pedigree in other ways.

    Most likely this app will be used by people who have a terrible immediate family history with serious rare diseases and are traumatised by this impacting siblings or other relatives and are very serious about not facing it with their own children and it will have very little impact on population structure. It's childish of these people to not see the service this app might provide for such people, it isn't a gimmick.

    It also assumes that none of these conditions will not find treatments or cures going forward, lessening the imperative to do something like this. (As happened with some forms of Cystic Fibrosis)

    Replies: @El Dato, @res

    > Harvard is doing eugenics

    Twitterghetto:

    > “Banality of evil” invoked
    > “Gattaca” invoked
    > NYT “Race Science” articles invoked
    > It’s EUGENICS (dunno what is but have heard that word in relation to “bad”)
    > MUH HITLER!!
    > Oh no people won’t be able to date whoever

  41. Ironically, taxidermy seems like something women would be good at.

    If they were interested in it.

  42. @loc
    You are right about girls following their fathers into non-traditional occupations. I taught in an engineering program and often asked students what their fathers did. A majority of girls had a dad in engineering.

    Replies: @res

    Remember that both nature and nurture matter for that. I think iSteve’s point is more towards the nurture side.

  43. @Altai
    OT: But the genius geneticist George Church has returned strong after the failure of his company (Bad timing, sequencing costs are still too high) and looking a bit Julian Assange-ish. Anyway, one of the many new ventures he is engaged with is a dating app that will accept your genome and only show you matches who aren't also carriers of known rare disease variants. The thinking going that some of these population variants are so rare that even a slight effort to block carriers reproducing with each other will quickly wipe them out of the population. Though some serious conditions have carrier frequencies that are actually quite common, like variants for Cystic Fibrosis.

    George Church: you know, two to five years to get into clinical trials. And then again it could take ten years to get through the clinical trials.

    Church is a role model for the next generation. He has co-founded more than 35 startups. Recently, investors put $100 million into the pig organ work. Another Church startup is a dating app that compares DNA and screens out matches that would result in a child with an inherited disease.

    George Church: You wouldn't find out who you're not compatible with. You'll just find out who you are compatible with.

    Scott Pelley: You're suggesting that if everyone has their genome sequenced and the correct matches are made, that all of these diseases could be eliminated?

    George Church: Right. It's 7,000 diseases. It's about 5% of the population. It's about a trillion dollars a year, worldwide.
     
    Despite this involving those who actively wish to avoid reproducing with another carrier of their rare disease variant, the blue ticks are already calling this 'eugenics', which it strictly speaking is, but I think they mean to imply something more sinister and involuntary...

    https://twitter.com/indyfromspace/status/1204010902640574467

    If this becomes the norm it could have huge effects on population structure given the larger frequencies of some variants. It is an interesting ethical question, but the immediate effect will be to increase outbreeding, however slightly so I don't know why blueticks are so annoyed. But maybe it could give rise to more considered thought to genetic pedigree in other ways.

    Most likely this app will be used by people who have a terrible immediate family history with serious rare diseases and are traumatised by this impacting siblings or other relatives and are very serious about not facing it with their own children and it will have very little impact on population structure. It's childish of these people to not see the service this app might provide for such people, it isn't a gimmick.

    It also assumes that none of these conditions will not find treatments or cures going forward, lessening the imperative to do something like this. (As happened with some forms of Cystic Fibrosis)

    Replies: @El Dato, @res

    Despite this involving those who actively wish to avoid reproducing with another carrier of their rare disease variant, the blue ticks are already calling this ‘eugenics’, which it strictly speaking is, but I think they mean to imply something more sinister and involuntary…

    It is instructive that nobody seems to have gone after JScreen like that.
    https://jscreen.org/
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/is-this-eugenics/

  44. @JimB

    Personally, I find it heart-warming that a lot of women who are in non-feminine professions tend to be the daughters of beloved fathers in the same business.
     
    At my college, all the girls who majored in physics had fathers who were either physicists or mathematicians. Many of the girls mentioned resenting the pressure their fathers put on them to be scientists. One girl I knew frequently recounted the tense interactions she had with her father whenever she asked him for help on assignments; he couldn't understand why the answers weren't obvious too her.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Rosie, @HammerJack

    “One girl I knew frequently recounted the tense interactions she had with her father whenever she asked him for help on assignments; he couldn’t understand why the answers weren’t obvious too her.”

    Illinois Institute of Technology teacher over a TV-linked course:

    “The answer is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Joe Stalin

    I have to say I had the same problem with MY father. As a high-school teacher, his hope was that percussive violence on his kid would teach him that the "-" syntactic elements, which to any unladen observer take on two completely different roles in "-x" and "x-y", are actually semantically the same, barring some slight syntactic rearrangements made out of sheer lazyness.

  45. @Neoconned
    @prosa123

    The number & percentage of hunters is going down though....few years back the local paper had state officials b**ching about fewer hunters and thus less revenue for game wardens to play with

    Replies: @Prosa123

    That is true, there are fewer hunters overall, but an increasing percentage of those remaining are women.
    Oddly enough, a form of hunting that’s growing in popularity are African safaris.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Prosa123


    Oddly enough, a form of hunting that’s growing in popularity are African safaris.
     
    As domestic trophy hunting gets more and more expnsive the African safari starts to look reasonable. And the accessories, like British double rifles, are major status symbols. H&H and Purdeys are doing a good business.
  46. Her father was unavailable for comment:

    A 104-year-old Wisconsin woman bags a buck on her first-ever hunt

    (Kirk Douglas turns 103 today, by the way. He should get together with the slightly older Olivia de Havilland and Beverly Cleary and reminisce about the day President Harding died.)

    Let me guess: young women who are taxidermy enthusiasts tend to have dads who are taxidermists or, at minimum, hunters.

    Martin Scorsese now has a storyline to reunite Travis and Iris.

    • Replies: @mmack
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, but being 'sconsin did she git Da Turty Point Buck?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tnHNqvOB42M

  47. @songbird
    Surprised that there is a market for grey squirrels. They are like rats. I have found that mummified grey squirrels are a dime a dozen while cleaning out under my porch.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Grey squirrel meat is not bad, quite dry like duck. A neighbour shot and skinned a few and his wife prepared and roasted them.

    • Replies: @songbird
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Audie Murphy shot a lot of squirrels to feed his family, after his father left.

    Back in the '50s, my father used to know some country people who ate squirrels. Invited him to dinner one day, when he stopped by. He was curious, but didn't want to eat anything, because he thought them hard-up.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  48. @Known Fact
    Saw that BBC photo and just assumed it was a new Food Network show. Or Iron Chef's Battle Roadkill

    Replies: @mmack

    Today’s secret ingredient IS . . . SQUIRREL!

    So iSteve posters, with an open heart and an empty stomach I say unto you in the words of my uncle, ALLEZ CUISINE!

  49. @Bardon Kaldian
    @PiltdownMan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFYFP5mJ0o

    Replies: @Anon, @El Dato

    Just backs up my contention that chloroform solves most interpersonal problems.
    Too many men let their pride get in the way. Quit trying to be “Mr. Arguer” all the time, I say.

  50. Daddy’s little squirrel…..sure that’s national news

  51. @El Dato
    OT:

    From "let's talk about my hair" to "let's talk about my Middle Eastern nose".

    https://twitter.com/truthandfiction/status/1203242917420249088

    Jewish journalist claims enlarged nose on Swedish ID photo is anti-Semitic, Twitter says snot so fast

    Afterwards:


    ‘Jews love to lie to get attention’ I’m ready to call it a f-ing day,” she wrote.
     
    Good.

    Replies: @tyrone, @BB753

    They’re giving passports to proboscis monkeys in Sweden …….any primate will do!

  52. I dated this punk rock girl in Eagle Rock a few years ago and she would have squirrel meat shipped via FedEx on dry ice from a taxidermist in Wisconsin named Sarina Brewer to make squirrel chili.

    Sarina Brewer seems to have invented the category of “rogue taxidermy,” and her work in “esodermy” is particularly fascinating:

    https://www.sarina-brewer.com/archive/taxidermy-art-esodermy.html

    It does not appear her dad was a taxidermist, however, but her work is quite good:

    https://www.sarina-brewer.com/introduction.html

  53. Anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, you missed the other part of equal importance.

    And… had no brothers. That is the key reason why the fathering instinct finds its target in daughters. Nirvana says it better than most.

    Solution: have more kids, boomer dumbasses. Eventually you will get your son unless you are really unlucky, in which case, go invade Russia or something.

    In today’s woke age, I get criticized by not wanting to spend equal time on my daughters now I have sons to educate. I do what feels natural… to teach my sons how to be men. Long live the patriarchy!

    Proud patriarch.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    It occurred to me that you could reverse the lyrics "He should have.... been a girl." Maybe a female lead could sing this song. There have to be some mothers out there like that.

    This phenomenon might explain some of the insane woke mothers who would create a "girl". Granted some males are just going to end up as femmy homosexuals, and they know this from grade school age or earlier perhaps.

    https://pics.me.me/our-daughter-is-transgender-i-nikita>-dragun-colin-mochrie-monday-36142181.png

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Solution: have more kids, boomer dumbasses.
     
    You want women born before 1965 to have more children? Or would you have their husbands dump them for younger, more fertile women? Sign up for Introductory Biology this semester!

    Nirvana says it better than most.
     
    Carolyn Leigh said it best. Her words, in Tony's voice:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bH9xa9z8EZA


    She also wrote "And if you should survive 'til 105, look at all you'll derive out of being alive...". She and her composer barely made it halfway.

  54. @Joe Stalin
    @JimB

    "One girl I knew frequently recounted the tense interactions she had with her father whenever she asked him for help on assignments; he couldn’t understand why the answers weren’t obvious too her."

    Illinois Institute of Technology teacher over a TV-linked course:

    "The answer is intuitively obvious to the most casual observer."

    Replies: @El Dato

    I have to say I had the same problem with MY father. As a high-school teacher, his hope was that percussive violence on his kid would teach him that the “-” syntactic elements, which to any unladen observer take on two completely different roles in “-x” and “x-y”, are actually semantically the same, barring some slight syntactic rearrangements made out of sheer lazyness.

  55. @El Dato
    "The women are trying to change perceptions".

    EVRERY WOMYN JOUB COMES WITH AN WORLD WIDE SERIOUS SJW MISSION!!

    Replies: @El Dato

    This ties into iSteve’s observation

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-feminist-inflection-point/

    that

    A big part of The Narrative works like this: at some point in the Bad Old Days, there was much discrimination against women. Today there is less, but it’s a constant grinding battle to eke out a slightly more justice, decade after decade.

    The job of Taxidermist is just another bastion that MUST FALL.

    “Drogon! Dracarys!”

    —Daenerys Targaryen to Drogon

  56. @Bardon Kaldian
    @PiltdownMan

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiFYFP5mJ0o

    Replies: @Anon, @El Dato

    This is relevant to my interests.

  57. Anonymous[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Steve, you missed the other part of equal importance.

    And... had no brothers. That is the key reason why the fathering instinct finds its target in daughters. Nirvana says it better than most.

    https://youtu.be/jj5aKerVWuk

    Solution: have more kids, boomer dumbasses. Eventually you will get your son unless you are really unlucky, in which case, go invade Russia or something.

    In today's woke age, I get criticized by not wanting to spend equal time on my daughters now I have sons to educate. I do what feels natural... to teach my sons how to be men. Long live the patriarchy!

    Proud patriarch.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    It occurred to me that you could reverse the lyrics “He should have…. been a girl.” Maybe a female lead could sing this song. There have to be some mothers out there like that.

    This phenomenon might explain some of the insane woke mothers who would create a “girl”. Granted some males are just going to end up as femmy homosexuals, and they know this from grade school age or earlier perhaps.

  58. @Spangel
    @Bill P

    Agree. It’s kind of like doll making in theory. Doesn’t seem inherently non feminine.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    It’s kind of like doll making in theory.

    In the so-so movie, Dinner for Schmucks, Steve Carell plays a man who is obsessed with making sweet dioramas of stuffed mice living happy lives.

  59. @Red Pill Angel
    @Bill P

    My thought too: women's talents are almost always highly detail-oriented. There's even sewing involved in taxidermy. An evolutionary biologist I know employed a young black woman (who wore long fake nails) who did exquisite taxidermy on tiny shrews, under a low-power microscope! He couldn't figure out how she did it with the nails, but she did.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    In case you were wondering how to taxidermy a mouse these gals will demonstrate:

  60. @ia
    So now we're back to using dead animals as fashion accessories? What next, using their body parts in herbal tea?

    The human race is truly evil.

    Replies: @Tex, @Hypnotoad666

    Posted without comment.

    • LOL: BB753
  61. @Reg Cæsar
    Her father was unavailable for comment:

    A 104-year-old Wisconsin woman bags a buck on her first-ever hunt

    (Kirk Douglas turns 103 today, by the way. He should get together with the slightly older Olivia de Havilland and Beverly Cleary and reminisce about the day President Harding died.)

    Let me guess: young women who are taxidermy enthusiasts tend to have dads who are taxidermists or, at minimum, hunters.
     
    Martin Scorsese now has a storyline to reunite Travis and Iris.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RJ2Vu9ixUAw

    Replies: @mmack

    Yeah, but being ‘sconsin did she git Da Turty Point Buck?

  62. I always hoped to meet a female pilot or adventure junkie, but ended up falling for head-turners who got airsick too easily. I guess taxidermy babes are a step up.

  63. @YetAnotherAnon
    @songbird

    Grey squirrel meat is not bad, quite dry like duck. A neighbour shot and skinned a few and his wife prepared and roasted them.

    Replies: @songbird

    Audie Murphy shot a lot of squirrels to feed his family, after his father left.

    Back in the ’50s, my father used to know some country people who ate squirrels. Invited him to dinner one day, when he stopped by. He was curious, but didn’t want to eat anything, because he thought them hard-up.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @songbird

    From a David Letterman Top 10 list on why the Americans beat the British in the Revolutionary War:

    Their diet: tea and crumpets. Our diet: raw squirrel meat and corn likker.

    Replies: @Anon87

  64. @songbird
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Audie Murphy shot a lot of squirrels to feed his family, after his father left.

    Back in the '50s, my father used to know some country people who ate squirrels. Invited him to dinner one day, when he stopped by. He was curious, but didn't want to eat anything, because he thought them hard-up.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    From a David Letterman Top 10 list on why the Americans beat the British in the Revolutionary War:

    Their diet: tea and crumpets. Our diet: raw squirrel meat and corn likker.

    • LOL: songbird
    • Replies: @Anon87
    @Steve Sailer

    I'll give Letterman credit for remote bits, and some oddball humor thanks to Chris Elliot, but the Top 10 List always struggles to break the Mendoza Line.

  65. @BB753
    Dads should let their girls be girls. It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities. It's selfish and unhealthy. Among other reasons, that's how we have women in the police and military.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Reg Cæsar, @TheJester

    It’s not that the fathers push them into it…it’s that when there isn’t a son in the family one of the girls will naturally gravitate towards partially fulfilling the male role. It’s possibly some kind of unconscious survival instinct to help preserve the family’s status and property. This happens even in 3rd world countries, and was observed even hundreds of years ago.

  66. @Anonymous
    Steve, you missed the other part of equal importance.

    And... had no brothers. That is the key reason why the fathering instinct finds its target in daughters. Nirvana says it better than most.

    https://youtu.be/jj5aKerVWuk

    Solution: have more kids, boomer dumbasses. Eventually you will get your son unless you are really unlucky, in which case, go invade Russia or something.

    In today's woke age, I get criticized by not wanting to spend equal time on my daughters now I have sons to educate. I do what feels natural... to teach my sons how to be men. Long live the patriarchy!

    Proud patriarch.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    Solution: have more kids, boomer dumbasses.

    You want women born before 1965 to have more children? Or would you have their husbands dump them for younger, more fertile women? Sign up for Introductory Biology this semester!

    Nirvana says it better than most.

    Carolyn Leigh said it best. Her words, in Tony’s voice:

    She also wrote “And if you should survive ’til 105, look at all you’ll derive out of being alive…”. She and her composer barely made it halfway.

  67. @BB753
    Dads should let their girls be girls. It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities. It's selfish and unhealthy. Among other reasons, that's how we have women in the police and military.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Reg Cæsar, @TheJester

    Dads should let their girls be girls. It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities. It’s selfish and unhealthy. Among other reasons, that’s how we have women in the police and military.

    Some go the other way, though, and protect them. The only presidential candidate in 2016 to speak out against the madness of registering women for Selective Service has two daughters and no sons.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ted_Cruz#Personal_life

  68. @Cloudbuster
    Ms. Kaye is doing some serious humble-bragging. Oh, it's so hard to be a taxidermist when you're young and beautiful like me! Everyone wants to talk about my appearance instead of my creepy dead animals!

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @JimDandy

    Meanwhile, you know, a black guy in Chicago forced a woman into her doorway with a knife and forced her to perform a sex act. But… never mind, let’s talk about the trials and travails and heroic perseverance of female taxidermists some more.

    https://cwbchicago.com/2019/12/man-charged-with-west-town-armed-robbery-sexual-assault.html

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    @JimDandy

    West Town is only 7% Black, but the attacker was Black. Imagine that....

    , @anon
    @JimDandy

    Meanwhile, Juice Wrld's aircraft and baggage were being searched for guns and drugs when he OD'd on Percocet. Probably just a coincidence.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-juice-wrld-guards-arrested-20191209-sfhqe3cns5hsffhxskrhqfagl4-story.html

  69. Personally, I find it heart-warming that a lot of women who are in non-feminine professions tend to be the daughters of beloved fathers in the same business. But nobody else seems to notice.

    I have the impression that this way of bequeathing is pretty old, and you can find examples of this in history. Marie Curie’s father was a math teacher and if I recall correctly, supported her.

  70. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Prosa123
    @Neoconned

    That is true, there are fewer hunters overall, but an increasing percentage of those remaining are women.
    Oddly enough, a form of hunting that's growing in popularity are African safaris.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Oddly enough, a form of hunting that’s growing in popularity are African safaris.

    As domestic trophy hunting gets more and more expnsive the African safari starts to look reasonable. And the accessories, like British double rifles, are major status symbols. H&H and Purdeys are doing a good business.

    • Agree: Prosa123
  71. @JimDandy
    @Cloudbuster

    Meanwhile, you know, a black guy in Chicago forced a woman into her doorway with a knife and forced her to perform a sex act. But... never mind, let's talk about the trials and travails and heroic perseverance of female taxidermists some more.

    https://cwbchicago.com/2019/12/man-charged-with-west-town-armed-robbery-sexual-assault.html

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @anon

    West Town is only 7% Black, but the attacker was Black. Imagine that….

  72. @BB753
    Dads should let their girls be girls. It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities. It's selfish and unhealthy. Among other reasons, that's how we have women in the police and military.

    Replies: @S. Anonyia, @Reg Cæsar, @TheJester

    It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities.

    I noticed the same thing when dating in the 1960s. However, there were also cases in which a daughter (usually one of the older children) was raised as a “son” when the son proved disappointing. The daughter in question was convinced from 8th Grade through the university that I would someday be her husband. I didn’t happen because she was too aggressive, competitive, and controlling. I call it “territorial aversion” … the same thing that demographics of males are currently experiencing with females infected with feminism. It is difficult to live harmoniously with a woman who is always competing with you for territorial control.

    We also have a daughter-in-law who was raised as a “son”. She is trying to do the same thing to her only child, our granddaughter. For a time, our daughter-in-law insisted that her daughter wear only blue-themed clothing … nothing pink. Also, all her toys need a masculine theme: only trucks, airplanes, ships, cars, lego sets, and space ships. The word is out for gifts. Anything feminine is returned.

    As with most feminists enthralled with having a masculine identity (perhaps this is the original genesis of the “trans” movement), one might call this a DSM-level case of “self-loathing” or “self-hate”. That would be an accurate description of our daughter-in-law and the movement. Yes, our daughter-in-law’s marriage is troubled … and our granddaughter is suffering from severe emotional problems from which she will probably never recover.

    Life is challenging for girls and women who are taught to loathe being female. The problem is that there is not a realistic option open to them. Nature refuses to cooperate no matter how much they protest and complain. The result is a harrowing cognitive and emotional dissonance from which there is no escape.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @BB753
    @TheJester

    Sad to hear about your grand-daughter's upbringing. These days, if men do not obey their wives, they end up in divorce court. Modern marriages are all destined for failure because women want to be "more" equal than men (which is the definition of feminism: female supremacism). Not only won't they obey their husbands, as used to be the case, they won't even listen to them, those chauvinistic pigs.

  73. @JimDandy
    @Cloudbuster

    Meanwhile, you know, a black guy in Chicago forced a woman into her doorway with a knife and forced her to perform a sex act. But... never mind, let's talk about the trials and travails and heroic perseverance of female taxidermists some more.

    https://cwbchicago.com/2019/12/man-charged-with-west-town-armed-robbery-sexual-assault.html

    Replies: @Cloudbuster, @anon

    Meanwhile, Juice Wrld’s aircraft and baggage were being searched for guns and drugs when he OD’d on Percocet. Probably just a coincidence.

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-juice-wrld-guards-arrested-20191209-sfhqe3cns5hsffhxskrhqfagl4-story.html

  74. @El Dato
    OT:

    From "let's talk about my hair" to "let's talk about my Middle Eastern nose".

    https://twitter.com/truthandfiction/status/1203242917420249088

    Jewish journalist claims enlarged nose on Swedish ID photo is anti-Semitic, Twitter says snot so fast

    Afterwards:


    ‘Jews love to lie to get attention’ I’m ready to call it a f-ing day,” she wrote.
     
    Good.

    Replies: @tyrone, @BB753

    Photography is anti-semitic.

  75. Isn’t gender conformity primarily enforced by peers, who tend to be of the same gender?

  76. @JimB

    Personally, I find it heart-warming that a lot of women who are in non-feminine professions tend to be the daughters of beloved fathers in the same business.
     
    At my college, all the girls who majored in physics had fathers who were either physicists or mathematicians. Many of the girls mentioned resenting the pressure their fathers put on them to be scientists. One girl I knew frequently recounted the tense interactions she had with her father whenever she asked him for help on assignments; he couldn't understand why the answers weren't obvious too her.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Rosie, @HammerJack

    Many of the girls mentioned resenting the pressure their fathers put on them to be scientists.

    Dads are in a somewhat awkward position. If they push, that can be damaging. If they don’t push, that may also be resented. Growing up in a working class family, I wish someone would have taught me a little bit about cars even though I wasn’t interested. (Uncles and male cousins all knew how to keep cars running.)

    If you have a son, you’re going to insist he learn some basics (scramble eggs, boil pasta, make a grilled cheese sammich, etc.) whether he’s interested in cooking or not. The same ought to hold for daughters.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Rosie


    I wish someone would have taught me a little bit about cars even though I wasn’t interested.
     
    God knows I'm not trying to set you off, but there's something distinctly female about that sentiment, thus framed.
    , @nebulafox
    @Rosie

    Should I ever have a daughter, I would never insist she follows my path in life, no more than the sons...

    But I'll be damned if any child of mine is a quantitative illiterate.

  77. @JimB

    Personally, I find it heart-warming that a lot of women who are in non-feminine professions tend to be the daughters of beloved fathers in the same business.
     
    At my college, all the girls who majored in physics had fathers who were either physicists or mathematicians. Many of the girls mentioned resenting the pressure their fathers put on them to be scientists. One girl I knew frequently recounted the tense interactions she had with her father whenever she asked him for help on assignments; he couldn't understand why the answers weren't obvious too her.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin, @Rosie, @HammerJack

    Speaking of college, it is now officially ON in California.

    Students, Community Groups Sue University of California to Drop SAT, ACT

    Suit alleges the university discriminates against low-income students, racial minorities and others by relying on standardized-test scores in admissions

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/students-community-groups-sue-university-of-california-to-drop-sat-act-11576008188

    Standards of any kind are racist.
    Après nous, le deluge

  78. @Rosie
    @JimB


    Many of the girls mentioned resenting the pressure their fathers put on them to be scientists.
     
    Dads are in a somewhat awkward position. If they push, that can be damaging. If they don't push, that may also be resented. Growing up in a working class family, I wish someone would have taught me a little bit about cars even though I wasn't interested. (Uncles and male cousins all knew how to keep cars running.)

    If you have a son, you're going to insist he learn some basics (scramble eggs, boil pasta, make a grilled cheese sammich, etc.) whether he's interested in cooking or not. The same ought to hold for daughters.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @nebulafox

    I wish someone would have taught me a little bit about cars even though I wasn’t interested.

    God knows I’m not trying to set you off, but there’s something distinctly female about that sentiment, thus framed.

  79. @Rosie
    @JimB


    Many of the girls mentioned resenting the pressure their fathers put on them to be scientists.
     
    Dads are in a somewhat awkward position. If they push, that can be damaging. If they don't push, that may also be resented. Growing up in a working class family, I wish someone would have taught me a little bit about cars even though I wasn't interested. (Uncles and male cousins all knew how to keep cars running.)

    If you have a son, you're going to insist he learn some basics (scramble eggs, boil pasta, make a grilled cheese sammich, etc.) whether he's interested in cooking or not. The same ought to hold for daughters.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @nebulafox

    Should I ever have a daughter, I would never insist she follows my path in life, no more than the sons…

    But I’ll be damned if any child of mine is a quantitative illiterate.

  80. So it finally percolated into the mainstream. Saw a documentary about these taxidermy girls, some years back. Didn’t reveal anything about daddy issues as I recall, seemed that they came from all walks of life. You had the posh girl stuffing the felled game and the tattooed-up one, being transgressive and all, fixing up road kill. A bit of a grisly undertaking and, mind you, I’m not unfamiliar with dead animals.

  81. @Steve Sailer
    @songbird

    From a David Letterman Top 10 list on why the Americans beat the British in the Revolutionary War:

    Their diet: tea and crumpets. Our diet: raw squirrel meat and corn likker.

    Replies: @Anon87

    I’ll give Letterman credit for remote bits, and some oddball humor thanks to Chris Elliot, but the Top 10 List always struggles to break the Mendoza Line.

  82. @TheJester
    @BB753


    It is often the case that fathers who have no boys push their girls to boyish or manly activities.
     
    I noticed the same thing when dating in the 1960s. However, there were also cases in which a daughter (usually one of the older children) was raised as a "son" when the son proved disappointing. The daughter in question was convinced from 8th Grade through the university that I would someday be her husband. I didn't happen because she was too aggressive, competitive, and controlling. I call it "territorial aversion" ... the same thing that demographics of males are currently experiencing with females infected with feminism. It is difficult to live harmoniously with a woman who is always competing with you for territorial control.

    We also have a daughter-in-law who was raised as a "son". She is trying to do the same thing to her only child, our granddaughter. For a time, our daughter-in-law insisted that her daughter wear only blue-themed clothing ... nothing pink. Also, all her toys need a masculine theme: only trucks, airplanes, ships, cars, lego sets, and space ships. The word is out for gifts. Anything feminine is returned.

    As with most feminists enthralled with having a masculine identity (perhaps this is the original genesis of the "trans" movement), one might call this a DSM-level case of "self-loathing" or "self-hate". That would be an accurate description of our daughter-in-law and the movement. Yes, our daughter-in-law's marriage is troubled ... and our granddaughter is suffering from severe emotional problems from which she will probably never recover.

    Life is challenging for girls and women who are taught to loathe being female. The problem is that there is not a realistic option open to them. Nature refuses to cooperate no matter how much they protest and complain. The result is a harrowing cognitive and emotional dissonance from which there is no escape.

    Replies: @BB753

    Sad to hear about your grand-daughter’s upbringing. These days, if men do not obey their wives, they end up in divorce court. Modern marriages are all destined for failure because women want to be “more” equal than men (which is the definition of feminism: female supremacism). Not only won’t they obey their husbands, as used to be the case, they won’t even listen to them, those chauvinistic pigs.

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