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On February 27, 1933, the Reichstag, the German parliament building, burned. The Nazi government blamed a foreign leftist named Marinus van der Lubbe, warned of a vast leftwing conspiracy against Germany, and used the outrage and hysteria to crack down on his opponents’ civil liberties.

The Reichstag Fire turned out so convenient for Nazi aims that a popular conspiracy theory by Communist propagandist Willi Munzenberg that the Nazis had set the fire themselves in a false flag operation was widely believed for decades on cui bono grounds.

But by the end of the 20th Century, the consensus among historians was that Van der Lubbe was guilty, although some hold to theories that the Nazis had used him as a catspaw.

But whether or not Hitler thought of the attack on the capitol, he was not one to let a crisis go to waste:

 
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  1. Get your head right. Was van der Lubbe sporting a horned Bison hat? No? That’s why H*****r’s ban was bad but this ban is double plus good.

    • Replies: @Hannah Katz
  2. At any rate, the oligarchs are enjoying the latest scene in the puppet show.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Bubba
  3. Goddard says:

    The riot at the Capitol was like vomiting. The Left has fed Trump supporters with poison—the Russia hoax, the impeachment scam, the winked-at Antifa-BLM riots, and finally an election marred by breathtaking levels of irregularity and fraud. The riot was Trump supporters spitting the poison back out.

    • Agree: Farenheit, Spud Boy
  4. Going down the route the progressives are is dangerous. The British in late Empire India didn’t get it. The Nazis unfortunately did though.

    “In general you must either pamper people or destroy them; harm them just a little and they’ll hit back; harm them seriously and they won’t be able to. So if you’re going to do people harm, make sure you needn’t worry about their reaction.”

    They need to remember that democracy and free speech are required, so that people can hit back without violence. Take them away, while not being willing to engage in wholesale genocide, and you guarantee that you will get hit back hard.

    Either that or they’re going to need to start treating Trumpers like they do blacks, and hand them money and plaques to buy them off forever. I feel this really is a route they want to go down

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @PapayaSF
  5. tyrone says:

    I remember a few years ago some Russian was predicting a break-up of the U.S. …..no way I thought …..now I’m thinking ,those Russian America analyst are pretty sharp. Maybe they will be kind and understanding like we were after the Soviet Union broke up(that’s a joke son).

    • Thanks: Neoconned
  6. Anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:

    Thanks for doing the research and bringing that up. I am continually amazed how often people refer to that fire, and proceed to say the Nazi’s set it. The lack of historic literacy in this country is astounding.

    Also, the widespread aggression against ethnic Germans by the Poles prior to the German invasion, which led to an onslaught of German refugee’s fleeing the Polish pogroms is never mentioned, but was a heavily weighted factor that got WWII going.

    It wasn’t just Danzig. It was Poles behaving like thugs, emboldened by Churchill’s promise, along with France reluctantly signing on, to go to war with Germany, should Germany invade. Once that happened, the Poles went off the hook, making any compromise regarding Danzig impossible. The Poles even fired on planes full of ethnic German refugee’s simply trying to get the hell out of there. I believe Churchill was well aware of what he was doing, and where it would lead. By the mid 1930’s he said, “Germany is getting too strong. We must crush her.” Let liberals use that anecdote for their shitty analogies for Trump.

    None of this is ever mentioned by liberals attempting to somehow align WWII-style treachery with the modern tomfuckery of today. It’s always an ignorant, loser move. The world of the 1930’s might as well have been on another planet. Attempts to use it for analogies in modern politics is a game for the hopelessly ignorant.

    • Agree: Hippopotamusdrome
    • LOL: soll
    • Troll: Lot, Jack D
  7. In German: “erschießen.”

    • Replies: @El Dato
  8. J.Ross says:

    The question of van der Lubbe’s guilt is the best illustration of an academic distinction. If van der Lubbe was innocent then the Nazis are guilty of vandalism, whereas, regardless of van der Lubbe’s guilt, if the Nazis are the Nazis, then they are guilty of everything the Nazis are guilty of, which, according to some experts, is largely much worse than vandalism.
    Even as we use the word “Philistine” to mean cultureless, so too our idea of an intelligent thought is actually a failed Communist meme from long ago. See also the idea that McCarthyism is witch hunting or that the Rosenbergs are poisecuted.

  9. Dr. X says:

    Confiscation of arms from Trumpist “deplorables” — aka “neo-Nazi white supremacist domestic terrorists” will surely be very high on the list.

    And they will be making a lot of lists, and putting a lot of people on them. Google, Twitter, Facebook and Instagram will be all too eager to “help” draw up the lists for the “Truth and Reconciliation Commission”…

  10. Biden’s slogan is “Build Back Better”.

    Van der Lubbe was claimed innocent in a song by the Berlin band Einstürzende Neubauten, which means “collapsing new buildings”.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @ben tillman
  11. Yawrate says:

    No doubt there were some antifa guys at the front. MAGA hats aren’t expensive. Probably some actual Trump supporters involved. But given the number of people in DC that day it was in large measure “mostly peaceful.”

    The lesson here is don’t plan so far in advance that the enemy has plenty of time to prepare agent provocateurs.

    • Agree: Paul Jolliffe
  12. Does anybody know if Congressional work laptops use Bitlocker or similar? I’m just itching to see the Pelosi data dump, but I have a feeling whatever knucklehead stole it won’t know what to do with it. It’s possible that the sudden extra-spicy insanity (impeaching Trump 12 days before he’s retired? Huh?) might be related to the contents of her Outlook file.

  13. El Dato says:

    The new hit music in USA will be Russian Doomer Music.

    (Then blacks will say they invented it first.)

    • Agree: Kyle
  14. J.Ross says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    “In general you must either pamper people or destroy them; harm them just a little and they’ll hit back; harm them seriously and they won’t be able to. So if you’re going to do people harm, make sure you needn’t worry about their reaction.”

    This is true insofar as it goes but it kind of backfired somewhat at a naval base in Hawaii. Sometimes you give it to a guy in the nuts but it turns out the son of a bitch had spares.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    , @JMcG
  15. El Dato says:
    @Kibernetika

    That’s what Aguirre said.

    This clip is become more relevant as years go by.

  16. martin_2 says:

    The USA can’t break up because the blacks won’t be able to make a go of it on their own and will want to move into the white half, and the main purpose of separating, as far as whites are concerned, is really just to get away from blacks.

  17. benaogs says:

    Steve Shikser is clinically, mentally ill.

  18. anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    One of the more interesting events to go down the memory hole these past few years is the riot at Trump’s inauguration. While everyone is now supposed to be terrified of a few boomers walking around in the Capitol, they’ve all totally forgotten that, on the day Trump was sworn into office, leftists were running around Washington DC, setting fires, breaking windows, and assaulting people. That’s where Richard Spencer got punched. And it’s also the setting for this oddly poignant little scene:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2692308/donald-trump-supporter-beaten-up-inauguration-protest/

    What’s funny, though, is that Trump didn’t use it as an excuse to clamp down on anyone’s rights. Instead, he basically let them run roughshod over him and us for the past four years. Kind of odd for the next literal Hitler to do that. In fact, the charges against most of the rioters were dropped completely.

    But I suspect that Biden won’t be making that mistake.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  19. Based only on the immediate videos featuring Biden condemning “terrorists” violating the “citadel of freedom”, the situation in the US is about to get very ugly. But take comfort in knowing you will be “locked down”, forced into unemployment and subject to mandatory face masks for the next decade or so.

    But Biden is a funny character and we will be treated to daily Biden stories about corn pop, Hunter’s escapades, Dr. Jill Biden’s medical practice, Joe’s Amtrack adventures and his many years in that most august temple of freedom, the US Senate.

    • Replies: @MB
  20. newrouter says:

    This show is really great, too bad it is being banned by big tech: Trump: The End Game. Next week’s edition may be action packed.

  21. They don’t need an excuse to crack down.

    Harris is chomping at the bit to deal misery to the white peasantry….all in the name of “fweedom.”

  22. Anonymous[422] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, Twitter is conspiring with Facebook, now permanently banning Trump from their platform from now on, and even Apple is in on it, threatening to financially attack Parler if they don’t essentially get on board the Dumpntrump train within 24 hours. This, one would presume, is to cut off Trump’s options from the get-go.

    And might I add, this is a horrible plan, unless fomenting violent unrest is their objective…

  23. Be nice to actually have some Republicans willing to stand up to the Reichstag fire drum beat.

    Fine to condemn the protesters for breaking into the Capitol, (Though in the much more one-peopleish nation of my youth, when i visited the Capitol you just … strolled in!) And for vandalism–breaking glass.

    But Republicans should be absolutely full throated in calling out Democrats (the Parasite Pary) hypocrisy.

    “All summer long the Democrats justified riots, mayhem and looting. Apparently it’s just fine for protesters to burn Joe’s bar and grill or Bob’s store; to assault and occasionally shoot Trump supporters; to attack people driving on public roads, vandalize their vehicles and assault and beat up the drivers. But god forbid some Trump supporters should show up yelling at the politicians and put their feet on Nancy Pelosi’s sacred desk.”

    Where’s the Republican who’ll just step up and say that–the obvious?

    Personally i care much more about the lives and livelihoods of regular American citizens then sleazy politicians–who regularly sell out the interests of Americans–getting a little scare.

  24. But by the end of the 20th Century, the consensus among historians was that Van der Lubbe was guilty.

    In other words, nobody knows.

    What we do know is that we’re screwed either way in our modern version. It really doesn’t matter who did it, whether infiltrators, actors or the real people ostensibly protesting. The result will be the same.

    For the first time ever, I’m actually kind of glad I own an apartment in Eastern Europe. Because, ya never know… It could actually become a better place to live.

    Brilliant paragraph, BTW, Steve. You leave it hanging in uncertainty and gloom, just like the real world now.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  25. The Trust is gone.

    Neil

  26. @AnotherDad

    That should be “All summer long since George Floyd’s fentanyl overdose …”

    The little big lie (Floyd “killed”), inside the medium big lie (cops oppressing blacks), inside the whopping nation destroying big lie of “bad white gentiles!” minoritarianism need to be confronted and debunked at every turn.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  27. BenKenobi says:
    @AnotherDad

    You ever read any Harold Covington? Maybe brush up, because you’re about to live it.

    I recommend starting with The Brigade.

    • Replies: @Polistra
  28. @Not Only Wrathful

    In general you must either pamper people or destroy them; harm them just a little and they’ll hit back…

    Straight outta San Casciano.

    • Thanks: Just another serf
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  29. Steve, will you have a Lasorda post?

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  30. Corvinus says:

    “Hitler blamed a foreign Communist named Marinus van der Lubbe and used the outrage to crack down on his opponents’ civil liberties.”

    So, in iSteve speak, Trump blames antifa, which will rile up his base even more, and they will deem their enemies as “evil”, thus justifying cracking their skulls. Thanks for the clarification. Stay cagey!

  31. Peterike says:

    Trump banned from Twitter. Steve you probably have a few weeks left.

    Oh remind me why some of you didn’t like Trump because he offended your delicate sensibilities? You have no idea what’s coming.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    , @Mr. Mean
    , @Pericles
  32. Peterike says:
    @Corvinus

    Please Ron, we need the “dolt” button for Corvinus.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  33. unit472 says:

    I want to get the Chief of the Capitol Hill police, who resigned yesterday, to testify under oath and have a FOIA or subpoena issued for his communications with House and Senate Democrats. There was a reason that the demonstrators were allowed to enter the Capitol with little resistance.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon, RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  34. @Corvinus

    Oh yeah, those people really represent the Seventy-Four-Million Americans who voted for a populist president.

    Since I used my last reaction button on you above, I’ll just make my own this time:

    • Troll

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  35. LRFD says:

    What’s going on today is motivated by pure fear. If Biden and company had any sense, they would calm down and let a broken Trump waddle out into the sunset. Let the Republican Party disembowel the MAGA movement from the inside like they did with the Tea Party. Inject crazier, but less aggressive conspiracy theories into the mix. That’s the smart play.

    What they are doing is something that is bound to backfire. It is unbelievably stupid to try to shutdown communication by only shutting down a few gatekeepers. They can be circumvented in a hundred different ways. It’s especially stupid to silence Trump’s communication when he is often his own worst enemy. It is bound to fail. It is like shooting Madero to stop a revolution, without, you know, shooting Madero. They have just made things immeasurably worse. The Walter Sobchak’s of the world were barely holding it together. Now?

    It’s hard to blame them. They haven’t slept. Most have a had a bit too much to drink. A few have hit the harder stuff. Their minds have not stopped racing in nearly three days. They are being pressured by the true believers and arm chair generals. They can’t think straight. They are making really bad decisions. They are afraid.

  36. I see that Google Play Store has kicked Parler off. Buy guns, ammo and large capacity magazines; even if backordered. Keep the production lines humming and get your position to be next in line for delivery.

    Conan: Battle of the Mounds

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
    , @Cloudbuster
  37. Anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    Has the Ashli Babbitt killing been memoryholed? Initially the headlines and news reports implied some sort of attempt to violently breach a police barricade and threaten law enforcement officers. But the video shows her being shot by someone while climbing through an internal window into a hallway full of “rioters” and police who were milling about talking to each other and taking selfies. No cops seemed to be taking notice of her, and a fellow “rioter” seemed confused when she fell lifeless. It kind of smells like a Justine Damond kind of killing, a panicky (female?) USPC “officer” just firing off a shot. I say female because of the premature use of they as the pronoun for the staffer in the public statement, and my general sense that the female “cops” were going deer-in-the-headlights during the festivities.

    • Replies: @Jon
  38. Lot says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    A point against Lubbe’s guilt is he asked to take all the blame and punishment for an illegal strike.

    What better patsy than someone who already made false confessions?

    With all the normal political street violence and attempts at coups in interwar Germany, a single nutty perpetrator seems unlikely as well, the building would have been better guarded and firesafe.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  39. @Lockean Proviso

    That’s not joy.

    Is it too late to surrender to Japan?

    • Thanks: Just another serf
    • Replies: @Polistra
  40. Rob says:

    I would really like to see the Republican Party embrace moderate Candidate Trumpism. Bring back factories. No more immigrants, third world refugees, or illegals. The illegals who are already here can either relocate voluntarily or otherwise. A constitutional amendment giving people born here the legal status of their mother: citizen, tourist, permanent resident, or illegal.. Those two things, keeping America as a first world nation economically and demographically, to the extent such is possible, given the rot domestically and through the invasion.

    No more immigrants of any kind is not a right-wing victory. It is a compromise that greatly favors the left. They would be way ahead, because whites would be down to maybe 40% of America, down from 85% in ‘65. I think the AlienNation so many whites are experiencing is caused by the deluge. I think that is where the craziness on the right comes from. They are unwilling to express why the election was a sham. The Democrats broke democracy by bringing in a hundred million ringers. Surely the left would recognize that keeping ‘democracy,’ but letting every Russian and Eastern European vote would be a way that democracy can be broken. The Democrats broke democracy in the same fashion.

    Not to mention, liberals are being very unethical in trading their children’s birthright, a stable first world nation, for temporary political power in a formerly first-world nation. Not to mention, by the time America is non-white enough to pass all the laws the progressives cum themselves over, the country will be too non-white to make a go of their Utopia. Not to mention, the non-whites may have their own ideas about what they want in a society, and it is not homomorphic with gay marriage. What is the ‘ethical principle’ that we are supposed to follow with the environment? Oh, yeah. The precautionary principle. When a course of action has small, uncertain, and temporary benefits, but possibly has large, negative, and irreversible consequences, you don’t take that course. Immigration fits that to a T.

    Back to the ‘publicans, I cannot be the only one who would drop the entire Trump clan if populism-nationalism came in some other brand. Maybe now that Republicans are the minority party, with no way back to parity with the old dominant strip-mining ‘free enterprise bolted onto traditionalist white culture, they will see that the Trump coalition is their only hope. The Democrats demonization of white men can only help.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    , @Altai
  41. Whiskey says: • Website

    Jack Dorsey wants you to know that Machiavelli is obsolete. Big Data and Twitter make it so.

    The Tech Oligarch vision is China — social credit system and no one without their approval can buy/sell, have insurance, a bank account, power/utilities/internet. Etc. Well, that exists in China. Backed up by a massive police state and matched by massive corruption that leaves ordinary people prone to bursts of extraordinary violence. Its very suppressed but there is lots of anti official violence in China, generally in smaller cities without many policeman.

    Here in the US there is already the illegal alien black market, and now the Covid one. I see in my own neighborhood various “illegal” work out studios, barber shops, no doubt other stuff. Big chains enforce shopper limits, other places do not. Particularly those outside big malls. They’ve got rent to pay.

    Biden plans a national mask mandate and 6-12 month lockdown min. After vaccines. It will be prohibition squared. Big Data / Big Tech, particularly Twitter and USA Today are teaming up to identify anyone who attended the rally at the Ellipse and get them fired. While that’s a lawsuit waiting to happen, especially for those mis-identified, its also highly likely to get a lot of people killed … at Twitter and USA Today. That desperate Iranian Fitness gal who depended on her videos being watched got deplatformed because a Muslim checker at Youtube was incensed at too much skin and removed her videos — so she shot up a Youtube office. Firing people in good times is risky. With 40-50% real unemployment and no hope afterwards thats civil war.

    Mitt Romney and Lindsey Graham are angry they got exposed for cringing cowards on live TV. So they are vindictive and stupid. I can see most Whites being made a hereditary peon class real fast, and assimilating into Latino drug / gang culture real fast. The two dudes who beat Brian Snow (the Giants fan attending a Dodger game) into a coma were cholo wannabes who were White as far as I could tell. And that was years ago. A mostly Black and office bound woke Fed / Police force will be easy pickings for those guys. Particularly as the military is purged of the non-Woke for … trannies and Bradley Manning types.

    Kicking most Whites out of the ability to make any legal purchases, have bank accounts, have a legal job — those people will still be out there. And India, Israel, Japan, the Saudis, and Russia seeing Xi’s hand up Biden’s behind as a puppet military state are sure to interfere as well — as none can allow China which is a threat to all (some more than others) get control over the US military and use it to squash them. Whites will have friends. India for sure, Russia also, probably also Japan, Israel and the Saudis fearing China/Iran control over the US.

    But hey, Dorsey is boasting he can identify 100 million Trump voters/supporters or leaners. And put them into internal exile. So Machiavelli does not matter. Big Data. There you go.

    • Agree: Bugg
    • Thanks: John Regan
    • Troll: JohnPlywood, Spud Boy
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  42. @Corvinus

    Run along back to your masters before you get eaten with the rest of the Crow.

    Your work is done here.

  43. Rob McX says:

    For the powers that be, rioting whites are more frightening by an order of magnitude than rioting blacks. Even if only one per cent of America’s whites got fully mobilised, there’d be 2m people out there fighting. And the thought of them actually waking up en masse to what’s happening to their country must scare the politicians.

    BLM are a different matter. They rampaged all summer, destroying billions worth of property and terrifying law-abiding citizens, but the politicians know this could be switched off at any time. Just by invoking the necessary legal powers and deploying the required force, the riots of BLM and antifa could have been stopped in 24 hours. Besides, blacks will always be dependent on whites to run the country. If they were given the reins of power all to themselves, America would revert to the stone age.

    The chances of white political awareness reaching critical mass are very slim in the short term, but the possibility is frightening for the Washington establishment.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Whiskey
  44. Bubba says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    Here is an interesting comment by Jason Whitlock about the mostly peaceful protest on Wednesday:

    The Capitol is where global elites exchange cash for influence and privilege. It’s where $150,000-a-year politicians become multimillionaires building cozy relationships with Big Tech lobbyists and American corporations looking to curry favor with China.

    The Capitol is sacred ground for elites. The way you might revere a church edifice is the way millionaires and billionaires revere the Capitol.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • LOL: soll
    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  45. but Biden is a reasonable, old school, more centrist kind of Democrat, Steve snarked for months.

    get a clue, Sailer. you’re old now, and off your game. you’re just wrong. Biden has been gunning for normal Americans for like 3 years now. he’s been saying so out loud and continuously.

    Steve will swear that Joe Biden doesn’t agree with his extreme far left cabinet, right up until the Biden-Harris people scrub Steve Sailer from the internet. the last 20 years of Steve trying building a blogging presence and movie review side job will be gone quickly.

    • Replies: @Alt Right Moderate
  46. @AnotherDad

    Passive voice ain’t doing it.

  47. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    Much more important than Trump getting banned by Twitter is Apple giving Parler 24 hours to implement “full moderation policy”, lest its app be banned from Apple Store. The 24 hours ultimatum tells that, predictably, it was never done in good faith of having Parler do something/anything. It’s a straight ban, just waiting to be finalized.

    Google Store will undoubtedly follow. Eventually, someone in Parler will be indicted for child porn.

    And, they are just warming up. A lot more to come.

    It’s hard to not be put off by the frequently idiotic behavior of those that broke into the Capitol building. But, but, but: What have YOU done? What do YOU propose? At least, these people did something. The way they could.

  48. @Lot

    Weirdly, the four Communists who were tried alongside Lubbe were acquitted.

  49. Anon7 says:

    I’m pretty sure Pelosi is feigning apoplexy because she thinks that will get her the support that she (barely) has from the Squad and other Democrat radicals.

    Are the Democrats really serious about a two week impeachment? Really? For an “insurrection” to which nobody brought a gun?

    As George Orwell said

    So much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don’t even know that fire is hot.

    Here’s hoping wiser heads prevail, and the Democrats go back to telling us who can use what bathroom, and what pronouns to use. And having some confidence in their demographic replacement policy that will hand them everything in a decade anyway.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
    , @Jack D
  50. @Rob McX

    Even if only one per cent of America’s whites got fully mobilised, there’d be 2m people out there fighting. And the thought of them actually waking up en masse to what’s happening to their country must scare the politicians.

    They are all bunched up in the middle, though.

    Anyone know of a similar map for 2020?

    • Replies: @rebel yell
    , @AnotherDad
  51. anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    What’s funniest about this moment is that, although everyone is pretending to be scared of all the “terrorism” of some MAGApedes trespassing in a public building, that hasn’t actually stopped Antifa from continuing to attack police stations and try to break into them.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1347523565512482817

    And obviously, nobody is talking about it. Nobody cares. And I’ll grant you that the police station of Tigard, Washington is not as big of a deal as the US Capitol, but you’d still think that they might take a couple of days off, since everybody is sooooooo concerned about people breaking into government buildings all of a sudden. But they’re not. Why would they? They’re actually rubbing our noses in the fact that they can get away with it and we couldn’t.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  52. Corvinus says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    “Oh yeah, those people really represent the Seventy-Four-Million Americans who voted for a populist president.”

    Yes, they do. They include a firefighter and a doctor, both from Florida, as well as a West Virginia lawmaker, and an Air Force veteran.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  53. @Steve Sailer

    A point against Lubbe’s guilt is he asked to take all the blame and punishment for an illegal strike.

    Weirdly, the four Communists who were tried alongside Lubbe were acquitted.

    It’s van der Lubbe. Germans drop the particule, Dutch don’t.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nobiliary_particle

    [Van] Beethoven had a Flemish surname but adopted the German practice. That confuses everybody.

  54. notsaying says:

    Off Topic:

    The American way of life will be disappearing for even more people. This real estate guy really captures how our elites have so much more than the rest of us now that things that mean the world to us mean nothing to them:

    “The middle class are going to get priced out permanently. The great divide will get wider, wealthy people are picking up second and third homes like most people buy Skittles or the way we were buying toilet paper back in March. The average person is not able to grab a house today. After the pandemic, the banks went to 20% down, now they’re doing double and triple checks to see if your future employment is stable,” he said during an interview with Yahoo Finance Live on Friday.”

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/housing-real-estate-market-prices-grant-cardone-undercover-billionaire-211441245.html

    • Replies: @m___
  55. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:

    This seems to be unfolding just as Charlottesville did. Trump and his allies are being reviled and attacked by the full spectrum of the political establishment, just as the Alt Right leaders were in 2017. They’re being deplatformed, just as the Alt Right leaders were. They’ll soon face serious lawfare, just as the Alt Right leaders did.

    By analogy, this puts the average Trump voter in the position that the average Alt Right online autiste was in three years ago. And it really does appear that the left views them that way.

    There’s only one problem: there are 75 million Trump voters. And a large portion of them now have as much contempt for the Republican establishment as the Alt Right had in 2017.

  56. unit472 says:
    @LRFD

    There is no GOP without the Trump bloc. You think Marco Rubio could win an election in Florida or Lindsey Graham in South Carolina without Trump voters? Without Trump the GOP becomes the Liberal Democrats who went extinct in the UK.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    , @LRFD
  57. @Reg Cæsar

    They are all bunched up in the middle, though.

    The opposite is true. The Crazy Left are the ones all bunched up – in the coastal cities. They control a very small amount of land area. From the eastern city limit of Seattle to the western city limit of Boston it’s pretty much all normal white people.
    You don’t win wars by demographics. You win by controlling land. You win by never quitting. You win with morale.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  58. 22pp22 says:

    The Left will now do what it was always going to do. Even if Trump’s supporters had been completely peaceful, it would not make a shred of difference.

  59. Escher says:

    Interesting how the BLM peaceful protesters have quietly gone home, by the way.

  60. Wilkey says:
    @Rob

    They are unwilling to express why the election was a sham. The Democrats broke democracy by bringing in a hundred million ringers.

    To cite one example: Georgia

    1990: 71% white
    2000: 65% white
    2010: 59.7% white
    2020: ???

    In addition, 58.8% of all newborns *in 2011* were non-white.

    There is an old saying that the problem in a pure democracy is that 51% of voters can vote to piss on the breakfast cereal of the other 49%.

    Well, the other problem with democracy is that 51% of the people can vote to bring in 100 million more people who will ensure that there is never again a meaningful election.

    Or you can go one better: the problem in a republic where a tiny handful of unelected judges are allegedly there to prevent the first problem is that those same judges can prevent even an overwhelmingly majority of voters from preventing their replacement.

    We had laws against dual citizenship. Judges outlawed them. We had laws banning illegals from receiving public education. Judges outlawed them. It all goes downhill from there.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
  61. anon[321] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomas

    This is the same Rod Dreher who tweeted that he wished for an airliner full of Trump supporters to be dropped into Kansas from altitude. Speck. Log.

  62. dimples says:

    “But by the end of the 20th Century, the consensus among historians was that Van der Lubbe was guilty.”

    Probably the same historians who consensualize that JFK was killed by Oswald, 911 was done by Arab hijackers, the AIDs and Covid-19 epidemics were not caused by Big Science balls-ups, and that the 2020 US presidential election was remarkably free of fraud.

    BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

    • Replies: @dimples
  63. Altai says:

    JournosPostingLs has lots of screengrabs of the media milking their ‘hiding’ from Buffalo man and grandma. To remind, this is a ‘mob’ of about 50-70 people who suffered 2 casualties from heart attacks.

    And also their Kennedy-esque “Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.” takes during BLM.

    Also, while looking up the exact quote from Kennedy, I found that the quote of the day on friggin Wikiquote is Mitt Romney, complete with a heroic picture of him.

    https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Main_Page

    We gather due to a selfish man’s injured pride, and the outrage of supporters who he has deliberately misinformed for the past two months and stirred to action this very morning. What happened here today was an insurrection incited by the President of the United States. Those who choose to continue to support his dangerous gambit by objecting to the results of a legitimate democratic election will forever be seen as being complicit in an unprecedented attack against our democracy. … For any who remain insistent on an audit in order to satisfy the many people who believe that the election was stolen, I’d offer this perspective — no Congressional audit is ever going to convince these voters, particularly when the President will continue to say that the election was stolen. The best way we could show respect for the voters who were upset is by telling them the truth.
    That’s the burden, that’s the duty of leadership.
    The truth is that President-elect Biden won the election, President Trump lost.
    ~ Mitt Romney ~

    God bless America and her hollowmen.

    And needless to say, WokeCapital is a good read right now.

  64. @rebel yell

    You don’t win wars by demographics. You win by controlling land. You win by never quitting. You win with morale.

    Here’s a Saudi-style flag for the effort:

    And one for our Russian friends:

  65. Anon[239] • Disclaimer says:

    The impeachment is pure theater on Pelosi’s part. She doesn’t have the votes. She HAS to vote with the current congress, and the senate won’t go along. There are too many Republicans currently seated. She can’t try it again with the new congress, because it’ll be logically impossible to impeach a president who isn’t president anymore.

    It’s all theater. Nasty Nancy is just trying to deliver a kick to Trump on his way out the door. If she has any sense, she wouldn’t. The optics are bad, and it makes her look like a crazy, vindictive extremist, but this is personal with her. She hates Trump with an eye-popping rage.

    The Democrats are not going to have a happy inauguration. The left rioted when Trump entered office in 2016, and there will be riots again just because Antifa likes to riot and the Democrats are a fat target with no control over their pets.

    Also, if Joe comes out of his bunker to give his little speech in January, he may have a shorter presidency than William Henry Harrison. The guy’s 80, after all.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
  66. Mr. Anon says:

    But whether or not Hitler thought of the attack on the capitol, he was not one to let a crisis go to waste:

    He was an Alinskyite before it was cool.

    • Agree: Abe
    • Replies: @James O'Meara
  67. Anon[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Resistance by the brave 2 million? Once the Dem Justice Dept and FBI imposed a mere handful of long sentences for terrorism, I think the 2 million would be analytical and fold, as they pictured themselves in their cell in the supermax, sitting on a concrete stool, watching religious programs on a small black-and-white tv for 20 years. Not to mention the freezing of assets, including future social security. Decent, proficient, honest, traditional-values people are now helpless. I was a student at an elite New England university during the late 60’s; exactly when and where it all began. Maybe people like me could have stopped it, but we folded. Sorry.

  68. @Goddard

    Goddard wrote:

    The riot at the Capitol was like vomiting.

    I want to know more about what happened.

    Apparently, a Capitol cop is dead. Did someone shoot the guy in cold-blooded murder? Nail the murderer.

    We have all seen the murder of Ashli Babbitt. What caused the cop to do that? Best defense I can think of is temporary insanity. It looks to me like murder.

    More broadly, the big picture is a bunch of folks broke windows and demolished furniture in response to a stolen election. As I have said before, I would not have done that: I have a deep aversion to breaking things and a virtual phobia about breaking glass.

    But if folks had invaded the parliament building and broken windows and demolished furniture in Ukraine or Russia or Hungary in response to a stolen election, our media and ruling elite would be celebrating them. Probably would be financing them behind the scenes.

    When you are being robbed, the normal rules of civility go out the window: the only question becomes: “How do I stop these bastards now.”

    I suspect that is how the protesters in the Capitol thought. And while I would not have been among them, seems to me that maybe they had a point.

  69. @prime noticer

    Democratic politics is all about optics and winning the middle ground. The reality is Biden did do a better job at that than Trump did in 2020. As for Biden, he may well be a crazy leftist in moderate clothing, but he will face lots of headwinds in pushing through an extreme agenda.

    For a start, his whole election campaign has been about being Captain Covid, which is going to be pretty difficult to achieve if he spends all his time pushing for illegal amnesty and green new deals.

    Trump got cocky in 2020 and failed to realise what worked in 2016 might not work in 2020. The Democrats will probably get cocky in in 2022 and get a post-Covid reality slap.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Anon7
  70. Altai says:

    • Agree: Kronos
    • Thanks: Dieter Kief
  71. @Joe Stalin

    Oh, a perfect opportunity to get rid of a competitor. – They just declared that parler is about to get big and they would not like that and – Trump and the Reichtsagbrand might suit them well. – Not unreasonable from their point of view.

  72. @Dr. X

    I doubt they’ll be coming for anyone’s guns. Why bother? If anything, guns are a pacifier for the right. Who’s that LA-based Gen X lawyer/conservative pundit who’s always telling readers to buy guns & ammo in response to some liberal outrage. And then what?

    • Agree: Bill
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Joe Stalin
  73. @Altai

    Yes, fucking terrorists those protesters – and they didn’t wear Nike too.

    • Replies: @Altai
  74. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Rob McX

    Whites already have reached critical mass. That’s what Occupy the Capitol was all about.

    They also know, from seeing all those craven, cowardly Congressxis and Congressxirs that these people are above all physical cowards. Never been in a fight.

    Its not as if Joe Biden and company are going to give Whites any money. Any new jobs. At best they’ll be in their pods watching icky awful DIEvirse streaming which is about a step below Jerry Springer “Who is the Father?” type reality shows. Really.

    The smart play (a young Bill Clinton would have done this) would be to reach out to the Occupy Capitol people. Ask that all charges be dropped, invite a few to the inauguration, be photographed with them, drop the lockdowns, federally bigfooting it, drop BLM, and give everyone a check of around $20K and open a few factories (of pretty much anything). Then go back to the business at hand of looting the treasury for family and friends.

    However, the geriatric leadership, average age 80, is like a Brezhnev replay of idiot senile dementia patients reliving the 1960s in a non-stop Acid Flashback. Wait until the White Tax comes into play, for Reparations for Slavery (its coming). YEah White people love being told their racist, their families are racist, their heritage is racist, their nation is racist, and by the way they can’t eat for a week to pay the White tax.

  75. Kronos says:
    @tyrone

    Normie Boomers really STFU when I show this video over lunch conversations when “evil” Russia is ever brought up. Or at least the men typically do, the women typically mumble about Putin being homophobic or some crap that’s just idiotic.

    • Agree: tyrone
  76. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Steve Sailer

    That isn’t weird. According to the Military History Visualized guy (a relatively young Austrian former paratrooper on Youtube) the Wehrmacht did not really care if a soldier was a former Communist, as long as he performed competently he was rewarded and a number of former Communists were awarded the Iron Cross and even higher decorations. Of course, that policy only applied to GERMANS and the Wehrmacht had a need for soldiers. But quite a few communists took shelter in the Wehrmacht and found its organizational methods and esprit de corps appealing.

    The Wehrmacht trained their soldiers extensively, when the war started their average soldier had two years of training. And after Poland, the General Staff was dissatisfied with the actions of their soldiers and retrained them to avoid further errors, repeating that after the fall of France in May 1940. [Amounting to bad coordination among units particularly infantry and artillery, lack of pressing attacks to achieve breakthrough at the tempo desired, bad infantry tactics, etc.] Of course after Barbarossa the Wehrmacht could not train their men to this standard and the fighting effectiveness continually declined by the Wehrmacht’s own standards from June 1941 onwards. [Source: Military History Visualized. Definitely worth a look]

    I’m sure a lecture by an NBA star with a net worth of $100 million will show those deplorables what for. There is nothing working class Whites like more than a lecture from a pampered, multi millionaire NBA player about how racist they are and how they’re scum. Guy might as well work for MAGA.

    Over/Under when Biden extradites Trump to Iran? I say within a four weeks of taking office. They really are going to have to do it, a Trump alive causes too many problems for them and they need to demoralize the deplorables plus make examples of low ranking military people who will also be extradited. Iran has made it clear that Trump has to pay for Solemeini and Biden’s people need to get that money laundering going again.

    [Someone asked how it works — Moneyland by Oliver Burroughs is a good source. Basically dictators use inflated contracts with oligarchs skimming off the top, the dictator taking the lions share, both stuffing the money in the West where it is safest. Various court actions have transfered bank accounts after regime changes or corruption charges in the West but real estate in particular is safer with higher legal protections. That is what has propped up the London and NYC real estate market. About 3/4 of fancy London homes are not lived in, and owned by various shell corporations to hide who really owns it and spends about five nights there on a yearly basis. The same works for cars, yachts, etc. All owned by shell corporations, with lawyers, accountants, publicists etc. all being employed by them. The US by most estimates is the #1 money laundering destination in the world, followed by the UK.]

  77. Kronos says:
    @LRFD

    It’s hard to blame them. They haven’t slept. Most have a had a bit too much to drink. A few have hit the harder stuff. Their minds have not stopped racing in nearly three days. They are being pressured by the true believers and arm chair generals. They can’t think straight. They are making really bad decisions. They are afraid.

    I’d argue they’ve been suffering for years with Trump Derangement Syndrome. But yeah, they’re just going to overdo it.

  78. @Steve Sailer

    But by the end of the 20th Century, the consensus among historians was that Van der Lubbe was guilty, although some hold to theories that the Nazis had used him as a catspaw.

    A document found in a Hannover court in 2019 says, that the SA member Hans-Martin Lennings drove the drugged up anarchist Marinus van der Lubbe to the Reichstag while the fire was already burning – in order to create the impression of a left-wing terrorist attack.

    https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/haben-doch-die-nazis-den-reichstag-abgefackelt-16305771.html?GEPC=s3&premium=0xd52cb5d1d95da6941ca6d6d53d3b860f

    https://duitslandinstituut.nl/artikel/32634/rijksdagbrand-nieuwe-vondst-pleit-van-der-lubbe-vrij

  79. @J.Ross

    So, don’t do anything. Got it, thanks for the useful advice.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  80. @Joe Stalin

    It is almost textbook monopoly power and collusion when a handful of major players can all but shut down other businesses that disagree with them.

    We don’t allow this for public utilities — the electric company can’t refuse to provide you service because they don’t like your opinions. We should take a similar tack with the tech giants.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @El Dato
  81. anon[833] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alt Right Moderate

    Democratic politics is all about optics and winning the middle ground.

    Not any more. Now it’s about printing enough fake ballots to “win” an election, and throttling dissent.

    The Democrats will probably get cocky in in 2022 and get a post-Covid reality slap.

    Dude, the D’s won 2018 with a baby version of the 2020 steal. They will win 2022 easily; ballot harvesting, provisional ballots, absentee ballots, mail in voting – just get enough laser printers going and they have all the “ballots” they want. Just pull another suitcase out from under the table and run those “votes” through the tabulators 3 or 4 times, it’s another miracle electoral win!

    They want a one-party country, and they know how to get there; 2018 and 2020 show the path. You expect libtards to play fair? Get outta here!

    Right now the SJW’s are trying to shut all comms down except for approved channels. Twitter is banning continuously, starting with Trump. Ditto Facebook – all those suburban wives are only going to get “news” that is approved by Zuckerberg.

    Parler is banned from Apple store and soon will be from Google Play. Bitchute may be next. Jack Dorsey is bragging he can find millions of Trump supporters via Twitter for…some purpose or other. No doubt to send them a coupon for a free ice cream cone in Joe Biden’s fave flavor!

    There are still a lot of sites out there that can’t be brought down fast enough. This one is an example. But Domain Name Servers (DNS) are far fewer in number and can be hacked in various ways by the big tech players. That would leave the US backbone intact, which does matter for commerce in many ways. The cloud servers have become very important factors in just about everything from medical records to inventory to bank accounts. But that can be left intact while DNS for other sites – like this one – is “fixed”.

    Do not be surprised if sometime in the next 10 days the internet suddenly becomes a collection of Google approved sites, and all your email is not working….except for gmail…which Google reads continuously.

    • Agree: JMcG
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Anonymous
  82. @martin_2

    This is a fundamental issue. Blacks/Hispanics/ etc need white people in order to have any semblance of civilization. Separation needs to be done with the threat of force towards non whites.

  83. @Kronos

    On some subjects I trust RT. For Russian political and military propaganda, I do not.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  84. @unit472

    Ockham’s Razor says

    (a) like most police they were sympathetic to the protestors

    (b) Mayor Bowser didn’t want to be accused of favoritism/didn’t want to suddenly start doing her job

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  85. @Wilkey

    People are more important that the form of government. The hubris of the “Founding Fathers” was to create an Enlightenment style “government machine” that would work regardless of who ran it. The old “government of laws not men.” Bring in the Micks, Wops, Jews, bleks, no matter, “the system works.”

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
    , @Wilkey
  86. @Reg Cæsar

    They are all bunched up in the middle, though.

    Flyover country sure. But not your map. Your map is the “shift” map. Trump did relatively better–two party–than Romney particularly among middle/working class midwesterners.

    But the have-contempt-for-coastal-elites whites are spread over the entire country and are a majority in most rural counties in the US.

    It is the Parasite Party that is much more bunched. Basically major metro cores with blacks and yuppies; coastal elite suburbs with upscale good-white; and some Latino areas in the SW.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  87. @Corvinus

    No, I think he’s saying that regardless of who is all behind this, Biden and anyone else with a significant amount of power are going to use this event as a reason to crack down hard on the right.

    • Agree: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @Corvinus
  88. Anon7 says:
    @Alt Right Moderate

    “Democratic politics is all about optics and winning the middle ground. The reality is Biden did do a better job at that than Trump did in 2020.”

    Democrat politics in the last four years was “all about” terrifying everyone who watched TV, read a newspaper or used social media with an unrelenting message of venomous hatred and unreasoning fear of the Bad Orange Man. It takes almost total control over media, which the Democrats have. They’re now finishing the job, deplatforming Trump, trying to get cable providers to drop Fox, etc.

    Then, you drop the barriers to vote to as near zero as possible, with mass mail-in balloting, which has never been done before. Most of the extra twenty million votes cast in this election came as a result of mail-in voting. Terrified voters could cast their ballots without coming out from under their beds.

    • Agree: Desiderius
  89. @Dieter Kief

    “A document found in a Hannover court in 2019 says, that the SA member Hans-Martin Lennings drove the drugged up anarchist Marinus van der Lubbe to the Reichstag while the fire was already burning – in order to create the impression of a left-wing terrorist attack.”

    So, the good guys won. Excellent. What’s the problem? Do you think Biden would resign if you proved the Dems rigged the election?

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  90. Altai says:
    @Kronos

    Most people don’t understand that the alternative to Putin is either a Yeltsin-like plutocracy (Which isn’t to say Putin isn’t massively corrupt by North-West European standards, but compared to other Russian politicians, he seems to actually care about the country itself) or a liberal democracy that is ruled by oligarch money indirectly through the politicians which continues the ‘shock therapy’ regime that almost destroyed the country and which doesn’t act as a counter-balance to neocon insanity. Either way, the same result.

    And Putin can’t last forever, we may yet see it in our lifetime. And then we may see the same vengeful attitude displayed now against not Donald Trump but ‘Trump voters’ from the more viscous oligarchs Putin arranged a political coalition against with other oligarchs who are filled with a similar ethnic animus against the people of the land.

    If and when Russia becomes a liberal democracy, Western powers will simply buy it off. The same would be true to a lesser extent for China.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Disagree: Desiderius
  91. Polistra says:
    @anon

    What’s funny, though, is that Trump didn’t use it as an excuse to clamp down on anyone’s rights. Instead, he basically let them run roughshod over him and us for the past four years. Kind of odd for the next literal Hitler to do that.

    Yeah, but you’re talking about something close to objective reality. In the MSM-induced Hive Mind, white supremacists have been running wild these past few years, putting on antifa costumes, torching America’s cities, rioting and looting, spreading coronavirus, killing innocent black baby bodies, and claiming unemployment benefits.

  92. Polistra says:
    @BenKenobi

    Do you think Ron has a Plan B for this very site?

    Such a thing might come in handy very soon.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    , @Desiderius
  93. Polistra says:
    @Peterike

    Oh remind me why some of you didn’t like Trump because he offended your delicate sensibilities?

    What we didn’t like about Trump is that his colossal character defects got smack dab in the middle of the way of getting anything useful done. That is, presuming he actually wanted to.

    You have no idea what’s coming.

    I daresay most people here know full well what’s coming.

    The GOP could have prevented it. They didn’t care.

  94. Mr. Anon says:
    @Desiderius

    (a) like most police they were sympathetic to the protestors

    Police aren’t sympathetic to any protestors. Police are only sympathetic to their paychecks. What they’re best at is following orders. So who ultimately gave them their orders that day?

    • Agree: Wielgus, donut
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  95. Altai says:
    @Rob

    The problem is nobody would want to take that mantle. If you’re respectable and have anything to lose you don’t take an immigration restrictionist line in American politics. And it’s hard to find people like that who don’t have anything to lose who also agree with those policies.

    As for economic populism in the form of industrial policy or trade, that was hardly a popular tone among the libertarian and Reganite Republican coalition. And indeed, many of the biggest forms of mass migration today in the West were pioneered by the right in the same spirit.

    However, Trump may have begun to unlock the plates of a desperately needed political realignment.

    Maybe one will emerge now but prior to Trump, there was no chance. Trump needed to happen, something had to give. But nobody ever said it was a given to succeed, just that there were no alternatives.

    In reality both immigration restriction and economic populism should be embraced by the left. But the left has embraced this religion of post-modern SJW identity politics which makes immigration not a political issue but a moral religious one.

    Given this, only the right can become the home of economic populism because it’s still somewhat possible to make anti-immigration arguments without getting everyone triggered but to become this, it has to stop essentially being the right in a confusing (To normies) political realignment.

    However, I don’t think it’s a given it will happen just because it’s desperately calling out to take place in order to rationally serve the desires and interests of voters. To paraphrase Keynes: ‘The democratic marketplace can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent’.

    • Replies: @Jon
  96. MB says: • Website
    @Just another serf

    My guess is he’s going to get Watergated by Hunter’s laptop or the fact that he’s on camera confessing to what they tried to impeach the Don for: Ukranian corruption.

    Which is all part of the pogrom to usher in our historic minority female president. (You’ve come a long way, baby. While Monica had the right idea, things didn’t quite work out and she wasn’t that kind of minority.)

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  97. Jon says:
    @Anon

    They have video of the shooter. Someone was filming through the left side window into the hall at the same time Ashli Babbit was climbing through the right side window. At fitst you can just see a gun poking out of a doorway into the hall, but then the shooter steps into full view when he shoots – looks to be black, definitely male, plain clothes – some are saying it may have been Pence’s Secret Service.

  98. anon[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @martin_2

    That’s what borders are for. Israel has a wall and immigration standards. Works fine there and they are surrounded on all sides by a huge Arab population. Stop discouraging a legitimate, and possibly successful course of action, with nonsense arguments.

  99. Altai says:

    2021 Twitter bingo is going to be so easy.

  100. Ed says:

    We are on the precipice of something horrible. More horrible than Wednesday. People are becoming radicalized, many of whom are in the military and law enforcement.

  101. Mr. Mean says:
    @Peterike

    I feel like Steve and this entire website for that matter are on a “do not disturb” list since their ideas aren’t so easily torn apart. No attention must be driven to them.

  102. utu says:

    Four codefendants of Van der Lubbe were acquitted. Three of them were deported to Soviet Union and one was put in the protective custody and given a new identity. Rather unexpected outcome for a political terrorism trial anywhere. Germany even in the Nazi era has never mastered the art of show trials of the USSR and the quick effectiveness of American justice system in the post 9/11 era.

    • Disagree: Wielgus
    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Wielgus
  103. Mr. Anon says:

    A revealing comment:

    “In general, the public has this mistaken assumption that the police are there to serve and protect them,” Maria Haberfeld, a professor of police science at John Jay College, said. “The police do what the politicians and other officials tell them to do or not to do.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/capitol-police-officers-support/2021/01/08/a16e07a2-51da-11eb-83e3-322644d82356_story.html

  104. Cortes says:
    @Polistra

    “Life will find a way” was, as I recall, the warning given by the philosopher in “Jurassic Park”; already the control freakery over access to modern media is the target of mockery:

    https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-sneaks-back-on-twitter-by-disguising-self-as-pr-rep-for-chinese-communist-party

    The deplatforming was a major error. Anyone who has experience of an enemy disclosing a fear or weakness knows how to exploit it.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  105. dimples says:
    @dimples

    But wait I forgot one. The same historians consensualize that Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack by the Japanese in 1941. Hang on, what about the historical consensus that the US was shocked, shocked I tell you when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait. Isn’t that true too?

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  106. @MB

    (You’ve come a long way, baby. While Monica had the right idea, things didn’t quite work out and she wasn’t that kind of minority.)

  107. Wielgus says:
    @utu

    Rather one-sided analysis – Hitler was angered by the outcome but he had yet to achieve full control over the legal system in Germany in 1933-4. This was achieved later. Ernst Thaelmann, the jailed Communist leader, was never brought to trial in case he might prove a little too eloquent in court. He was killed in 1944, still in custody. When another Communist leader, John Schehr, was captured after going underground, he was killed out of hand, to make defiant courtroom performances even less likely.

    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @utu
  108. @James O'Meara

    Marinus van der Lubbe was no good guy and the SA for quite obvious reasons wasn’t good too.

    Your question about Biden – I don’t know, because seen from abroad it looks quite difficult to get an idea what the courts will and will not do. – Just follow the SCOTUS and sweep the rather dubious election under the rug in favor of societal peace?

    • Replies: @Peter Akuleyev
  109. @LRFD

    Hard to say how scared the establishment are, but my God, they sure as hell aren’t thinking straight. The balls-to-the-wall self-destructiveness of this response is simply staggering. This is a country locked in ever deepening political polarization, that is up-to-its-eyeballs in debt, likely heading into a steep recession, and being confronted by the most significant geopolitical foe that has ever threatened it (China); and this is their move? To drive a wedge between the GOP party and its base, combined with a half-assed and diffuse crack-down on that base, effectively radicalizing half of said base in one fell swoop? This is insane; it’s like they think it’s 1995, and we are still the world’s sole superpower whose citizens are generally fat and happy. This is no time for cynical triangulation. This is a time for leaders, but we don’t have any.

  110. Wielgus says:
    @utu

    (Deleted when it became clear the system was posting twice – see comment 105)

  111. Wielgus says:
    @Mr. Anon

    In Greece, police are supposedly pro-Golden Dawn in many cases. They still arrested Golden Dawn members when the orders came through. They want to get paid.

    • Replies: @Apples and oranges
  112. anon[294] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Who’s that LA-based Gen X lawyer/conservative pundit who’s always telling readers to buy guns & ammo in response to some liberal outrage. And then what?

    Then what? Guns are good for self preservation. I’m in a country that doesn’t allow them.
    You should be so lucky.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    , @theMann
  113. Altai says:
    @Dieter Kief

    That’s what is so funny, many of them were so non-threatening and affable you could make them into Lego and it works.

    Even Pussy Riot often got more aggro with people than these guys and often got a lot closer to higher level officials in government buildings.

  114. Polistra says:
    @Desiderius

    When and if I ever say anything against East Asians, please remind me that they–and they alone–will likely be the sole savior and repository of classical music.

  115. @Goddard

    Steve’s cryptic reference to an 85 year old event with no overt commentary is probably the closest he’ll come to actually talking about what’s going on.

    It’s not exactly a profile in courage, but I guess everyone who isn’t anonymous needs to keep his head down right now.

    The Democrats are fairly salivating at the prospect of unfettered power, with their media and Big Tech propaganda monopolies strangling all dissent. They can’t even wait two weeks to start destroying their enemies.

  116. Altai says:

  117. @Dr. X

    Did anyone storming the Capitol even have a weapon?

    • Replies: @Muggles
  118. @Dieter Kief

    Problem is the election was in no way dubious. As even Steve agrees. Trump lost by a landslide, and the ballots even in Georgia and PA have been scrutinized to a degree we have never had previously. Guaranteed this result was more accurate than any of Roosevelt’s victories or the very corrupt late 19th century elections. This is all about Trump’s ego, nothing more.

  119. @LRFD

    It’s hard to blame them. They haven’t slept. Most have a had a bit too much to drink.

    No, it’s very easy to blame them. They are spiteful, nasty liars. This has been abundantly clear for the last four years. And it is their own power that they are drunk on.

    • Replies: @LRFD
  120. Jon says:
    @Altai

    A big part of why Trump won last time was his positions on immigration, trade, and war. These are three areas were the Uniparty really does exist – open borders, free trade, and endless wars are all part of the Dem and Repub party platforms. But they aren’t actually popular with people from either party. And of course, the only other candidate to go against their party on all three of these issues was Bernie (although he changed his tune on immigration after taking such a beating for his Vox interview in the 2016 campaign).
    Any candidate who would actually take these positions would be wildly popular, just as these two were, but they will face the onslaught of the powers that be.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @Altai
  121. Altai says:

    We’re reaching levels of Jewish histrionics that shouldn’t be possible.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Dumbo
  122. Wielgus says:
    @Wielgus

    To add to the foregoing, the Third Reich was a state of emergency régime with the Reichstag fire as its justification, until it was ended in May 1945. No habeas corpus and if a decision was made to not put someone in front of a court, that person did not have even the most token court appearance. Prison inmates were more likely to have a court hearing than concentration camp inmates but even this was no guarantee.

  123. Altai says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    The problem is that they spent 4 years in effect saying ‘we gunna git em’ and thus whether Trump lost legitimately or not, it would look the same.

    The coup started in November of 2016, whether Trump’s reign ended from election fraud or not, there was no trust left.

    That’s the joke about what happened. This represented counter coup forces who simply didn’t believe Trump lost legitimately because the establishment was acting like they were engaged in a coup for 4 years.

    That’s why anyone was so quick to suspect fraud, if it wasn’t one thing it’d be another because the behaviour of these people indicates to others that they’d do it if they needed to.

  124. Steve, you and/or Unz need to prepare, by getting an address under the .onion domain and putting it out there so we know where to find you.
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/.onion

  125. @Peter Akuleyev

    Trump lost by a landslide, and the ballots even in Georgia and PA have been scrutinized to a degree we have never had previously.

    You are just repeating made up MSM talking points that dismissively claim everything is “debunked.” Next you’ll be saying that “lots of courts dismissed lawsuits so there couldn’t be any fraud.”

    It’s true that the Trump team did a terrible job of organizing and summarizing evidence. But there is a lot of statistical and eye witness evidence of fraud. And it never got investigated. All the officials just locked up the evidence and ran out the very short clock until certification.

    As just one example, no one got to interview the Atlanta poll workers seen on video stuffing ballots after inspectors were sent away with a lie that a pipe burst. No one got to inspect those ballots to see if they were real, and no one got to see their machine logs to see if they were, say, 100% for Biden. There was zero transparency in all the major swing states.

    If the officials had been willing to allow investigation maybe they could have dispelled the fraud but they never did. So here we are.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon, Polemos
  126. Dumbo says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Trump lost by a landslide

    You’re either a troll, or do not understand the meaning of the word “landslide”.
    Even accepting the supposed (and probably fake) numbers:

    Trump 2020: 74 million (47%)
    Biden 2020: 81 million (51%)

    That’s not a “landslide” by any means.

    Also, considering that in 2016 (again supposedly) were numbers for both candidates were much lower:

    Hillary: 65 million
    Trump: 62 million.

    The idea that Biden, of all people, had 81 million votes and became the most voted U.S. president in history in absolute numbers, and that during a (again, supposed) “pandemic”, is so preposterous, that you have to be an idiot to believe it.

    • Replies: @Pericles
  127. @Peterike

    You can sorta roll your own, like this: •Dolt

  128. @anon

    Guns are protection against crime, but the guy was pushing them as protection against adverse political decisions. But having a gun doesn’t protect you against getting fired or deplatformed.

    In theory, the knowledge that there are hundreds of millions of guns in America ought to temper the totalitarian impulses of our elites, but it doesn’t, as the events of recent days have illustrated. Maybe it works to discourage authorities from rounding you up en masse, but they can just leave you broke and disconnected where you are.

  129. @Peter Akuleyev

    There’s lots of evidence of irregularities in the election. See here: https://hereistheevidence.com/

    Whether it was enough to flip the election, I can’t say for certain, but it would have been healthy for a court to have an evidentiary hearing on it.

    But fraud aside, the election was obviously rigged against Trump, from the widespread use of mail-in ballots that favor Dem ballot-harvesting, to Pfizer delaying news of its vaccine (as Steve has blogged about) to interference by social media, suppression polls, etc.

  130. @Peter Akuleyev

    Mr. Steve’s position here was as follows: He spoke – early on – of Trump’s necessity to pass the George Steinbrenner test (=to become (or: turn himself into) an effective (political) professional).

    And he later on publicly declared quite clearly, that Trump was not on a good way in that regard.

    Then came Covid-19 and Mr. Steve dropped dead off the Trump bandwagon – if somehow symbolically, but he did so nevertheless even though in the real world, the Black Plague-comparable big CO-19 pandemic did not happen.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  131. El Dato says:

    I’m old enough to remember when the idea of “Setting the ‘I’m evil’ bit in Internet Protocol Headers to allow for easier filtering” was a joke and adding self-censorship software to your PC was considered something not to be done.

    We are now at the point where Mozilla wants to fix the world using its wonderful web page renderer.

    Mozilla says ‘deplatforming’ Trump isn’t enough, wants to shield internet from ‘bad actors’ as users uninstall Firefox in disgust

    This is not surprising. That’s the outfit of headcases that demand pure moral positions from the CEO

    2014: Mozilla CEO Eich resigns after gay-marriage controversy: Brendan Eich steps down following calls for his ouster over his support for California’s anti-gay marriage Proposition 8

    • Replies: @El Dato
  132. @Dave Pinsen

    Yep. Guns look a bit outdated now. You would not know whom to stand up against when your bank-account gets closed.

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  133. utu says:
    @Wielgus

    If the regime was afraid of “defiant courtroom performances” it means the regime was not as bad as the picture you are trying to paint. Many Germans could get fair trials under the Nazi rule. The Nazi rule was not able to demolish the legal system completely. In many respects Germany remained the Rechtsstaat. Nazi were unable to manipulate the system and engineer show trials as the communist could in the Soviet Union. A good example is Herschel Grynszpan whom they kept in jail and were talking to use him in a propaganda show trial. Nothing came out of it and probably Grynszpan survived the war. How punitive the justice system was for German citizens? Not as punitive as we would think. In 1939 the last year before the war the number of incarcerated inmates including the concentration camps in Germany was per capita several times lower than what we have in the US.

    Germany 1939: 100, 000 Prisons, 25,000 KL

    USA 2017: 1,330,000 State Prisons, 630,000 Local Jails, 197,000 Fed Prisons, 34,000 Youth Facilities

    Population of Germany 1939: 66 millions
    Population USA 2017: 325 milions

    African Americans constitute about 40% of prison populations.

    So when you take these numbers you will find out that Germany’s incarceration rate in 1939 was about 2 times lower than the US incarceration in 2017 even when African Americans are excluded.

    • Thanks: John Regan, Mefobills
    • Replies: @Wielgus
    , @Jack D
  134. When is Trump getting his own unz.com blogging column?

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  135. El Dato says:
    @Altai

    LARPing as a Holocaust Survivor? Some kind of Münchausen Syndrome by Proxy?

  136. Pericles says:
    @Peterike

    Actually, I’ve seen at least four accounts like this so far.

  137. Dumbo says:
    @Altai

    Unfortunately, this type of Jewish paranoia is quite common among a subset of Jews. Even as they have almost total power over the Government, Hollywood and Wall Street, they keep having dreams of a white militia coming for them, or a mob with pitchforks. Maybe it’s just a bad conscience?

    “Out, damned spot! out, I say!–One: two: why,
    then, ’tis time to do’t.–Hell is murky!–Fie, my
    lord, fie! a soldier, and afeard? What need we
    fear who knows it, when none can call our power to
    account?–Yet who would have thought the old man
    to have had so much blood in him.”

  138. Pericles says:
    @Dumbo

    The idea that Biden, of all people, had 81 million votes and became the most voted U.S. president in history in absolute numbers, and that during a (again, supposed) “pandemic”

    For some unknown reason, nobody seems interested in understanding how the ‘Basement Campaign’ managed such an incredible feat. Journalists should be all over this masterful strategy, right? But crickets.

  139. Pericles says:

    Favorite tweet so far. PLAN VÄLFÄRD HAS BEEN EXECUTED.

    • Replies: @Another Canadian
  140. Altai says:
    @Jon

    Popular with ordinary voters in the privacy of the voting booth. But morally and religiously evil with the urban upper middle classes or indeed since the radicalisation of this ideas as ‘tainted’ and ‘Nazi’ with increasing numbers of the just university-educated middle classes in urban areas. If you’re university educated and middle class and up, you’ll be a pariah, even if those other people agree with you, they know they won’t be backed up and will stay quiet. Where is this person going to come from? They’d have to have had their family wiped out or perhaps been ‘cancelled’ at a young age and thereby jettisoned from the mating market to truly have nothing to lose. And they’d still have the programming of feeling ‘threat’ and ‘danger’ when talking about these things, always in the back of their head. The only alternative are blow-hards like Trump with zero self-awareness. Frankly I’m surprised he went as far as he did given that he was destroying Ivanka’s and Brannon’s lives and making them social pariahs among their class.

    There is a generation of young women raised on social media who think they’re radical anti-capitalists who think talk about industrial or trade policy is a ‘nice try’ sneaky cover for literal Nazism. And they are the power users of social media who inform it’s meta and thus the thing that young girls strive to believe or reproduce in order to be socially ‘okay’. This has replaced the small number of girls in real life who control such ideas.

    Any left-wing party that also combines a stand against immigration will do very well. But currently the sense of social responsibility and concern for the marginalised has been short-circuited in those parties to be concerned with outgroups and people who don’t even live in their countries yet and worse, it is through a moral/religious perspective making any rational politicial realignment impossible.

    What people want after 40-50 years of societal disintegration with the inevitable exploitation of it by capital and by outgroups is more collectivism and less individualism and liberalism both economic and social. They want more country in their country.

    They want to be able to afford a house and live among their own people. So far the latter is socially acceptable (And what is or isn’t is dictated by the upper classes) to complain about, the former isn’t.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon, El Dato
  141. AJP Taylor, 1963. Perhaps new evidence has come to light since then?

    http://jrbooksonline.com/PDF_Books/Origins_Second_World_War.pdf

    “The same point is illustrated in the story of the Reichstag fire. Everyone knows the legend. The Nazis wanted an excuse for introducing Exceptional Laws of political dictatorship; and themselves set fire to the Reichstag in order to provide this excuse. Perhaps Goebbels arranged the fire, perhaps Goering; perhaps Hitler himself did not know about the plan beforehand. At any rate somehow, the Nazis did it. This legend has now been shot to pieces by Fritz Tobias (Fritz Tobias, Reichstagbrand (1962).), in my opinion decisively.

    The Nazis had nothing to do with the burning of the Reichstag. The young Dutchman, van der Lubbe, did it all alone, exactly as he claimed. Hitler and the other Nazis were taken by surprise. They genuinely believed that the Communists had started the fire; and they introduced the Exceptional Laws because they genuinely believed that they were threatened with a Communist rising. Certainly there was a prepared list of those who should be arrested. But not prepared by the Nazis. It had been prepared by Goering’s predecessor: the Social Democrat, Severing. Here again there is no “vindication” of Hitler, only a revision of his methods. He expected an opportunity to turn up; and one did. Of course the Communists, too, had nothing to do with the burning of the Reichstag. But Hitler thought they had. He was able to exploit the Communist danger so effectively largely because he believed in it himself.”

    There are some parallels here. I don’t believe for a moment that Nancy Pelosi thinks Wednesday was an attempted coup (I think she’s evil, not stupid). But there are millions of Americans who believe what they see on TV and what they read in the media, and many of them probably DO think so, because that’s what they’re being told.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  142. El Dato says:
    @El Dato

    Fully expecting soon:

    Antiracist Linux (note that Linus has caved in to the inappropriate SJW stance of his sister last year)

    Trump-free GNOME (Richard Stallman having been canceled and all)

    Antifa KDE (there will be fancy red-and-black themes and you can click on “bike locks”. If something crashes, it display broken glass.)

    Rainbow-Linux-User-Groups (no ideologically impure individuals are allowed (that actually happened)

    D.I.E. Pretty Good Privacy (dumps your keys directly into the NSA bunker)

    Extended Memoryhole Filesystem (comes with a Google-sponsored AI that checks a Google webservice to find out latest news about “governmentally approved official history” and removes files on your PC that are inconistent with that. For a slight annual fee, it doesn’t remove them but just applies GPT-3 to rewrite them.

    Great Compiler Compiler and UNMAKE (instead of compiling your code, it scans it for politicially dubious comments and ideologically problematic coding constructs, then berates you to inject more diversity, demands donations directly to Ibraim X. Kendi, then deletes your work)

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  143. @AnotherDad

    Latinos live by the millions in the Chicago area and other midwestern cities; they are a major force in DC and the Maryland suburbs of DC, as well as Denver; they are a growing presence in Grand Rapids, Michigan; they live by the hundreds of thousands in little, formerly “white bread” Nebraska and Kansas. Latinos are proliferating in the western suburb of Salt Lake City called West Valley City, of all places.

    The demographic scenario you describe is a dreamworld that no longer exists. It greatly understates the dispersal of Latinos throughout the non-coastal areas of the USA, mostly US citizens but also illegal aliens.

    We will need to appeal to a large number of Latinos to win a federal election or many state elections (if that’s ever allowed to happen) or to physically mount a defense against the lockdown/police state and other tyranny.

    • Replies: @78026452
  144. @martin_2

    I can think of a few people other than blacks that many Americans would love to get away from.

    And I can think of many people other than blacks that most Canadians would like to get away from.

    The demand is there, just no supply. For now.

  145. @Dave Pinsen

    but they can just leave you broke and disconnected where you are

    Look at it this way: If essentially unarmed mobs can repeatedly take over city centers, or take the Capitol, imagine what rolling waves of armed and shooting mobs/squads/lone actors can do in various contexts and against various targets. That ripening potential lies ahead and everyone knows it.

    “Hell yes”, as Beta O’Rourke voiced the establishment left’s desire to take away American civilians’ AR-15s (and likely all other guns). The gun grabbers’ timing is too late—by decades—but their hubris is ramping up. Big ol’ meatgrinder churning ahead.

    [MORE]

    ABC News Democratic Debate September 12, 2019

    Democrat party gun ban intentions lockstep @ 53:30 –

  146. @Dieter Kief

    Sadly, and I condemn this wholeheartedly, but we run the risk that tens of millions of people losing their jobs, businesses, medical insuance, dignity, privacy, rights, life savings, hope, and eventually their homes and vehicles, will decide to directly target legislators and judges out of desperation and resentment. I mean actual daily killings of legislators and judges and the people paid to protect them, not the engineered / false-flag lightweight “invasion” of the us capitol.

    They may also take to physically attacking CEOs and even employees of corporations that are censoring people, manipulating public opinion by dictating what people can readily read and learn, and working towards the humiliation and dispossession of people whom they look down on. They may even attack the CEOs’ families and homes, and not just for some meaningless graffiti that can be washed off or painted over or windows that can be repaired.

    I hope that cooler heads will prevail and there is a peaceful lawful way to repeal the lockdowns and the entire government/corporate policestate / social credit/ surveillance apparatus. I will have no part in aggressive violence, but I fear that others will not forever feel the same.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  147. @Wielgus

    Golden Dawn is a bunch of confirmed and unrepentant Neonazis who wield zero political power, are politically inept, and were designated as a criminal organisation by the Greek courts. They did enjoy some protection for a while, but now they’ve lost all credibility.
    And every political position they’ve held, whether right or wrong, is now marked with their stain, making the Left’s job all that much easier.

  148. fnn says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    PA and other states whipped up Carl Shmittian “state of exception” voting rules that didn’t go through the legislature as required by law. At least the Enabling Act was passed by the Reichstag.

  149. tyrone says:
    @LRFD

    Right, the Trump hate won’t end, it will go on and on…they want him dead or in prison ,his businesses gone and his children next …….they will use anything to stop him running in 2024….I’ll stop there ,my God i’m starting to sound like Whiskey.

    • Agree: BB753
  150. JMcG says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s never mentioned in most history books, but Poland was happy to take a share of Czechoslovakia when Hitler broke it up. Churchill was deeply in debt in the years preceding the Second World War. Well, for the majority of his life pre-war, actually. His debts were paid by Jews. (See No More Champagne: Churchill and His Money, by David Lough). It’s a mainstream book, well researched.
    There was much more going on back then than we’ve been led to believe.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • LOL: soll
  151. JMcG says:
    @J.Ross

    The Pearl Harbor attack is illustrative of the aphorism. We didn’t lose a single carrier, strangely enough. It was just enough to get the population enraged without doing any real harm. Other than to those who died, of course.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  152. @Reg Cæsar

    “Men avenge slight injuries, but not grave ones” – Machiavelli.

    Much as we all love Trump, it was obvious from inauguration onwards that TPTB were not going to allow the brilliant social media campaign of 2016 to be repeated. Then Trump pretty much went round the end of the MSM Maginot Line and triumphed – aided by the fact that no one who was anyone actually believed he could get elected.

    The elites were horrified by Trump and vowed – “never again”, and the s***lords whose poasting was such fun in 2016 were all zapped. They came back and were zapped whenever they hit 10k followers. Now everyone and their dog are being zapped if they’re Trump supporters.

    (We were lucky in the UK that Brexit was (officially) a one-off decision – but even then we nearly didn’t make it, and were saved by an unprincipled chancer with his eyes on Number Ten, and the fact that the Labour Party was led by someone who a large and well resourced lobby hated even more than they hated Brexit.)

    Trump had four years to do something about (effective – network effects) media monopolies and didn’t. We can see from his attempts to reduce troops in Syria how difficult it is to do something when the Deep State is against you, but he should have pushed harder on that and on vote fraud.

    • Agree: Rob McX
  153. El Dato says:
    @Cloudbuster

    the electric company can’t refuse to provide you service because they don’t like your opinions

    Soon, baby.

    • Agree: Hibernian, Charon, donut
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  154. Hibernian says:
    @Corvinus

    Doctors are really populist. I’m sure the vast majority of them were Trump supporters.

  155. Hibernian says:
    @unit472

    Not everyone, or anywhere near everyone, who voted for him, at least in the general elections, was a die hard supporter. Many reluctantly voted for him as a lesser evil. (I voted Libertarian both times.)

    • Replies: @Charon
  156. theMann says:
    @anon

    P.J. O’Rourke did an article for Rolling Stone about gun control throughout the world.

    He was sitting in a bar in El Salvador, talking to the barkeep, and asks “they have strict gun control here, but everybody has guns,” the beekeeper laughs and replies “habla a pescadores”. So unless you are in a landlocked country, talk to a fisherman.

    Drugs are illegal, everybody who wants them has them. Where guns are illegal, everybody who wants them will, eventually, have them.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Rob McX
  157. Wielgus says:
    @utu

    It means that putting people on trial was optional, not that the régime was not so bad. If they had a defiant, politically motivated prisoner, like say a leading Communist, they had four choices.
    1) Put him or her on trial with some free press coverage and risk embarrassment, which happened in the Reichstag trial, especially with Dimitrov. They chose not to go down this path again.
    2) Hold a secret hearing behind closed doors. But what was the point, if they could not use it for propaganda?
    3) Not hold a trial at all and just leave them in prison or concentration camp. There was nothing that required the Third Reich, an emergency régime, to bring people before a court at all. As I noted, the emergency lasted until total defeat in war.
    4) Kill them.
    Options 3 and 4 were in increasing use after war was declared, although they exercised option 4 on John Schehr and others early in the Third Reich and well before war broke out.
    I notice you don’t mention the war – what was left of any pretence to fair trials disappeared in wartime, and this is also when we get Roland Freisler bellowing at people on camera arrested after July 20, 1944. Completely extra-judicial executions became more and more common – for example in Vienna in October 1944, a spot check was carried out on people processing parcels to be sent to soldiers at the front. Several were found to have filched items from parcels. They were marched out of the building, taken round the corner and shot dead.
    Grynszpan was being kept alive for a possible show trial – otherwise he would have been killed. He probably was, or else died in his camp towards the end of the war, when such a show trial was clearly not going to happen. Would-be assassin Georg Elser was also kept alive for the same reason but he is known to have been killed in Dachau towards the war’s end, when it was clear there would be no show trial.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @utu
  158. Charon says:

    I’m not normally a fan of Newt Gingrich, but this is a powerful and persuasive essay:

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/dec/21/why-i-will-not-accept-joe-biden-as-president/

    • Agree: Spud Boy
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  159. Charon says:
    @Hibernian

    I voted Libertarian both times.

    Unfortunately, our system is arranged such that third party votes effectively accrue to whoever wins.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  160. @Wielgus

    Judge Dr. Wilhelm Bünger had the courage in December 1933 to declare Marinus Van der Lubbe guilty of setting the Reichstag Fire and the other four Communists charged with the arson not guilty. That’s impressive on Bünger’s part.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Wielgus
  161. Corvinus says:
    @Jacques Strappe

    Being behind the illegal occupation of the Capitol is a pretty big deal, and there is justification to crack down hard on those on the right who were involved, not the right itself or in general.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  162. LRFD says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    I meant in this particular instance. In general, they deserve all of our scorn and contempt. They are corrupt and wicked on a scale that is difficult to fathom. However, they usually aren’t the full trifecta of inept, corrupt, and wicked. What they are doing now is staggeringly inept.

    As for being drunk on their own power, this has been so for longer than many of us have been alive. On Wednesday, somebody put a bitter pill into their bottle. Hangovers are a bitch.

  163. @tyrone

    Maybe they will be kind and understanding like we were after the Soviet Union broke up(that’s a joke son).

    What – the Russians will enter into a military alliance with one of the spinoff countries? Offer to invest in our natural resources so we can gyp them after they’ve sent us money? Sounds pretty mild to me.

    • Replies: @tyrone
  164. @PhysicistDave

    We have all seen the murder of Ashli Babbitt.

    She was crawling through a window in the middle of a crazed mob. I feel sorry for her but what she did was stupid. She shouldn’t have been there. And before you say George Floyd or Jacob Blake, I agree with you about them. They got what they deserved. And she was a better person than both of those POS’s. But still.

    More broadly, the big picture is a bunch of folks broke windows and demolished furniture in response to a stolen election.

    They were trespassing. Trespassers get arrested.

    They were trying to overturn the election. This is, again, surpassingly stupid. The election got stolen months ago, when the Democrats went to the courts to allow mail-in voting. What did Trump and the Republicans do about that?

    As I have said before, I would not have done that: I have a deep aversion to breaking things and a virtual phobia about breaking glass.

    Then don’t excuse those who do.

    But if folks had invaded the parliament building and broken windows and demolished furniture in Ukraine or Russia or Hungary in response to a stolen election, our media and ruling elite would be celebrating them. Probably would be financing them behind the scenes.

    True. So what? We all know what we’re dealing with. The way to oppose them is not with stunts like this.

  165. @theMann

    the beekeeper laughs

    They keep bees in bars down there? Killer bees? To enforce the tab?

    • Replies: @theMann
  166. @Kronos

    None of that happens. You’re a liar.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  167. @Anon7

    Are the Democrats really serious about a two week impeachment? Really? For an “insurrection” to which nobody brought a gun?

    Yep.

  168. Ian Smith says:
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Mostly agree. Nevertheless, the rule of law is something that Anglos care about. Maybe it’s both a blessing and a curse.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  169. Hibernian says:
    @Anon

    …it’ll be logically impossible to impeach a president who isn’t president anymore.

    I agree, as does everyone with a lick of sense; however, it’s reported that they may try that to bar him from running again, and also obviously as political theater, and they may not bother with a second impeachment vote in the new House. Under those circumstances they absolutely won’t get the necessary 2/3 vote in the Senate, but that’ll just give them one more thing to scream about.

  170. Hibernian says:
    @Paperback Writer

    Trespassers get arrested.

    Very rarely, and conviction is

    extremely

    rare.

  171. LRFD says:
    @unit472

    You are correct. There is no GOP without the Trump block. There’s also no effective opposition to the Democrats if the Trump block splits off into a third party. The Trump block by itself is not large enough to form a majority. It needs allies to get to 51%. They don’t need to be RINOs, but they need to be someone.

    That’s why the smart move is to let the GOP break apart. Calm everyone down, end the lockdowns, and form a united front to repudiate Trump with the help of the Media. Then the Democrats can loot country at will and pick its carcass like a vulture. Even dementia Joe seems to grasp this fact.

    What they are doing is bringing a popular opposition into existence with insurrectionist tendencies. It is monumentally stupid. It is extremely dangerous.

  172. @Dieter Kief

    …to pass the George Steinbrenner test (=to become (or: turn himself into) an effective (political) professional).

    Ted Turner test might be more appropriate. Steinbrenner never put on a uniform and try to manage.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  173. @Charon

    Unfortunately, our system is arranged such that third party votes effectively accrue to whoever wins.

    Not in New York. My first presidential vote was for the Conservative Party candidate. Who was also the Republican candidate.

    Even in the other states, where this nuance is disallowed, one can view a third-party vote as the first cast in the next election. After a tight one, you can bet the analysts and strategists on both sides will be closely examining those “lost” votes.

    They are far from wasted.

    • Agree: Hibernian
  174. Reading the Verordnung puts me in mind of Max Schmeling’s comment when he saw Joe Louis’s tendency to drop his left hand: “I zee zomzing.”

  175. @Jack Armstrong

    Actually that was a horned Water Buffalo Lodge hat, like the ones worn by Fred and Barney in the old Flintstones cartoon.

    Marinus Van der Lubbe sounds like an old National Party official under P.W. Botha.

    If the Nazis could have shut down Parler, they would have. Just like Nanzi.

    • Replies: @Muggles
  176. @LRFD

    There is no GOP without the Trump block.

    Typo, or pun?

    It needs allies to get to 51%. They don’t need to be RINOs, but they need to be someone.

    Small business owners devastated by lockdowns and riots (while “e-tail” makes out like bandits) would be a good start.

    A used bookstore in Livingston, Montana was giving out “Black Lives Matter” lawn signs this summer. Of course, they were hundreds of miles from BLM itself. (And no one was taking them.)

    Their counterparts in the cities may have had some sense knocked into them.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @Ron Mexico
  177. @AnotherDad

    Here is the thing, Everything the left did is memory holed by one little provocateur event in the waning days of his majesties presidency. It will foreshadow everything and move bunches of people away from any idea of whites being anything but nazis.
    Face it the police, fbi, dea, cia, nsa and any other soup group love to take you out. There is no fight for you from anyone and it might even be a promotion in it for them. Getting rid of white supremacists looks good even if they have to make you into one. Protesting is bad for white people most of those agencies and the military are chock full of poc’s and the only people to get rid of without fuss are whites, all you have to do is call someone a racist, white supremacist, nazi.
    Don’t forget to chant we ain’t racist and see how that works for you. You’ll be so busy trying to not look racist that won’t notice you started looking like BLM.

  178. Wielgus says:
    @Steve Sailer

    The judiciary was not yet fully Nazified at the end of 1933.
    Hitler was furious and demanded judicial reforms – in future such crimes would be tried by the People’s Court where a Nazi approach to sentencing was far more likely.
    Bünger seems to have faced no consequences – perhaps he was too well-connected with conservative officials Hitler did not want to offend. He died at the age of 66 in 1937.

  179. El Dato says:
    @Paperback Writer

    She was crawling through a window in the middle of a crazed mob. I feel sorry for her but what she did was stupid.

    That didn’t happen.

    She got shot at 10 feet distance with a Glock through a door from some kind of side-entry. Said door that was being demolished and had been clear 15 seconds earlier by two guards who apparently decided that getting aggressed for this wasn’t worth it. I don’t even know why she was being targeted by the shooter whose arm can be seen for a long time before the trigger is pulled. Was it the ghost of Oswald himself who did it?

    On the protestor’s side of the door, there was even a SWAT guy with an AR-15 who suddenly seemed unsure whether the shouldn’t let loose on Glock person. Which makes the deep reason of this random killing even more mysterious. The only reasons seems to be that she was best aligned with the gun barrel.

    https://www.trunews.com/stream/resignation-or-impeachment-pressure-mounts-for-president-trump-to-leave-white-house

    At 01:12:11

    • Agree: Muggles, Paul Jolliffe
  180. Anon7 says:

    In a Breitbart headline, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) said that President Donald Trump is a “deranged, unhinged, dangerous” president of the United States.

    If I were Nancy Pelosi’s staff, I would not want the words “deranged, unhinged, dangerous” appearing next to Nancy’s picture.

    Too close to home.

  181. @Dieter Kief

    The document described there was from a 1955 affidavit and is therefore not a primary source from the time. The Allies extorted lots of confessions during the decades after WWII and something like this pretty meaningless. Objectively it’s hard to imagine that this was ever a pre-conceived plan by Hitler simply the foreign Communist defendants such as the Bulgarian Georgi Dimitrov were all acquitted and released.

    As A. J. P. Taylor noted once, Hitler was very much prone towards taking drastic measures in an off the cuff way. This is one of the very few semi-honest comparisons that can be made between Adolf Hitler and Donald Trump. Hitler had always stated his avowed into to abolish the Weimar Constitution if he gained the chancellorship, so in that sense he had things pre-planned. But he didn’t need to work out an elaborate conspiracy in advance. He just jumped onto the circumstances as they arose and pushed things as far as possible. In the long run this proved to be a reckless approach to foreign policy. In the short run it won him many successes first domestically and diplomatically.

    Some have tried to argue that the failure to convict the Comintern defendants occurred because Hitler had not attained full power in Germany at the time of the Reichstag fire trial. The problem with that argument is that the Weimar police and judiciary had a long record of being strongly biased towards the Right. Hitler’s own pleasant prison experiences when he composed Mein Kampf after attempting to overthrow the Weimar government in 1923 was just one example of that. If Hitler had been following a well-formulated advance-plan for staging a show trial of foreign Communists then he could easily have selected judges who would have been in on the frame-up. The fact that he didn’t bother to do this only shows that he was acting off the cuff again, rather carrying out a well-formulated plan.

    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  182. 78026452 says: • Website
    @RadicalCenter

    Trump’s performance with Latino voters was relatively spectacular.

    https://amgreatness.com/2020/11/17/a-real-red-wave/
    “He won the most Hispanic county in the country, Zapata County (where 95 percent of the population is Hispanic) 52 to 47 percent over Biden, after losing 32 to 65 percent in 2016 to Hillary.”

    Name another GOP figure who could do this. Probably the candidate’s personality/persona matters as much as his policy positions. Gaetz’s personality/persona might draw more Latino votes than Hawley,’s for example.

  183. @Polistra

    Nah, this is site is too good of a honey pot.

  184. @LRFD

    The only tendency this insurrection has is to sit around on your asses and bitch on the internet in passive voice.

  185. @Ian Smith

    How’s that Bridge Over the River Zambesi y’all built holding up?

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
  186. @GW

    I agree.

    I predict we will see (soon?) a horrific school-shooting incident, carried out by a “lone wolf” who will turn out to have bizarre and mysterious links to law enforcement, including the feds. The MSM and social media will prove useless in demanding answers to hard questions.

    And/or we will see a bizarre, mysterious public mass-shooting incident, similar to the Mandalay Bay event in Vegas a few years ago. (Again, the MSM and social media will be nothing but cheerleaders for the “official” narrative. No critical questions allowed on Twitter or Facebook, don’t you know!)

    I hope I am wrong, but I doubt I am.

    • Replies: @rebel yell
  187. @Dr. X

    This is the 21st century. Lists were to be feared because it took a great amount of administrative work to maintain and distribute them. Remember the 1950s and 1960s movies where they showed the Univac and IBM mainframes and tape drives, all under the aegis of “Data Processing?”

    Now we have PCs and multi-terabyte disk drives together with FREE DB software that could be used by ANYONE with some training. Networks to distribute data. PGP encryption to make stuff hard to find.

    It can be used in the service for US FREEDOM.

    Recall that in 2013, the communist cosmopolitans in New York State decided they would make GUN OWNERS with CCW licenses vulnerable to attack by publishing a list of names, addresses and a map online.

    WHITE PLAINS — Local newspapers across the country look for stories that will bring them national attention, but The Journal News, a daily nestled in a wooded office park in a suburb north of New York, may have gotten more than it bargained for.

    Two weeks ago, the paper published the names and addresses of handgun permit holders — a total of 33,614 — in two suburban counties, Westchester and Rockland, and put maps of their locations online. The maps, which appeared with the article “The Gun Owner Next Door: What You Don’t Know About the Weapons in Your Neighborhood,” received more than one million views on the Web site of The Journal News — more than twice as many as the paper’s previous record, about a councilman who had two boys arrested for running a cupcake stand.

    But the article, which left gun owners feeling vulnerable to harassment or break-ins, also drew outrage from across the country. Calls and e-mails grew so threatening that the paper’s president and publisher, Janet Hasson, hired armed guards to monitor the newspaper’s headquarters in White Plains and its bureau in West Nyack, N.Y.

    Nothing wrong with return in kind for America’s Gun Controllers.

    Newspaper That Put Gun Permit Map Online Hires Armed Guards
    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/03/nyregion/putnam-officials-keep-gun-permit-records-from-journal-news.html

    Newspaper Takes Down Map of Gun Permit Holders

    A newspaper has removed an interactive online map of handgun permit holders in two New York counties that drew nationwide anger and prompted threats against its staff, the publisher said Friday.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/19/nyregion/newspaper-takes-down-map-of-gun-permit-holders.html

    DARPA had a contest which showed that a network of connected individuals could find things that no one person could find on their own in a timely fashion.

    Red Balloon Challenge

    To mark the 40th anniversary of the Internet, DARPA announced the DARPA Network Challenge, a competition that explored the roles that the Internet and social networking play in the timely communication, wide-area team-building, and urgent mobilization required to solve broad-scope, time-critical problems. The Challenge called for competitors to be the first to submit the locations of ten moored, eight-foot, red weather balloons at ten fixed and readily visible locations in the continental United States. On December 5, 2009, in less than seven hours, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT)’s Red Balloon Challenge Team found all ten balloons.

    https://www.darpa.mil/about-us/timeline/network-challenge

    This means that any person that moves against the Deplorables CAN be found.

    So start making up your DB and lists. No reason only the government should be able to exert an implicit threat; make information a source of power like they do.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  188. The current Congress is drafting articles of impeachment right now. Here’s how they could do it in 12 days. If this link doesn’t work use the Wayback machine.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/08/us/politics/impeachment-president-trump-capitol.html

  189. Rob McX says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    A used bookstore in Livingston, Montana was giving out “Black Lives Matter” lawn signs this summer.

    I was waiting for the punchline “…and then they got burned to the ground”. Livingston must be very remote indeed.

    • LOL: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Muggles
  190. Wilkey says:
    @Peter D. Bredon

    I strongly agree. However…what happens when you take the same exact people (or their descendants at least) and expose them to a lifetime of indoctrination and self-loathing?

    It’s culture and people. And obviously while our culture was never perfect, the rot is spreading rapidly.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  191. @Anonymous

    Of course, it was Neville Chamberlain, not Winston Churchill, who extended Britain’s war guarantee to Poland in March of 1939. An excellent case can be made that Churchill goaded him, but still, it was Chamberlain’s decision.

    So why did Chamberlain make such a stupid and militarily pointless guarantee?

    Because he never thought he’d have to honor it.
    Chamberlain was convinced that Stalin would never allow Hitler to take Poland, and therefore (since Hitler wasn’t an idiot), Nazi Germany would never invade Poland.

    The signing of the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact on August 23, 1939 not only stunned the world, but completely upended Chamberlain’s strategy to “talk the talk but NOT walk the walk.”

    No wonder Chamberlain sounded so depressed on September 4, 1939!

  192. @Reg Cæsar

    Scott Adams spoke about Gabbard and Manchin for the right price being those allies…

    Didn’t the Dems do that with Jim Jeffords?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  193. @Dr. X

    Yes.

    See my response to GW’s comment above (comment #1.)

  194. utu says:
    @Wielgus

    I notice you don’t mention the war – Because during war everything changed particularly towards the end. For you bringing up the treatment of the conspirators in July 1944 plot or would be assassin of Hitler is totally nonsensical. What happened to Oswald in 1963 Dallas? Was it an extrajudicial assassination? Georg Elser was killed when the Red Army was already in Berlin. Do you know how many Germans were executed then for defeatism? Or how many people were committing suicides? Or do you know how many prisoners were killed by Soviets in June/July 1941 in occupied Poland before the approaching German army?

    Not sure what you are trying to argue but whatever it is you are not doing it well. Your image of Germany is cartoonish. What Germans did in the occupied Poland is one thing (You are a Pole, right?) but how they treated Germans in Germany is another. Read diaries of people who lived in Germany including that by Jews. You can start with Victor Klemperer’s diaries and watch Rosenstrasse by Margarethe von Trotta.

  195. @Dave Pinsen

    And then what?

    Make yourself a lot more dangerous than they want.

    Learn to properly shoot your semi-automatic rifle. Low-cost training from volunteers via Project Appleseed.

    https://appleseedinfo.org/

    Learn basic infantry tactics.

    Shock of the Mundane: The Dangerous Diffusion of Basic Infantry Tactics

    Observers are largely focused on these technologies – such as drones and night-vision goggles – and their potential diffusion to violent non-state actors. What has been overlooked in the debate over the combat potential of violent extremists is the diffusion of something much more rudimentary and potentially more lethal: basic infantry skills. These include coordinated small-team tactical maneuvers supported by elementary marksmanship. The diffusion of such tactics seems to be underway, and it may generate serious concerns for U.S. security policy in the future if ignored.

    The historian David Edgerton authored a book entitled The Shock of the Old in which he argues that our society’s collective obsession with rapidly changing technology often blinds us to the older tools and techniques that actually drive most of what we observe around us. We believe this logic can be applied here. The diffusion of 100-year old combat techniques, coupled with readily available technology, may create serious threats that are not currently being considered.

    https://warontherocks.com/2018/02/shock-of-the-mundane-the-dangerous-diffusion-of-basic-infantry-tactics/

    http://www.militaryfieldmanuals.net/

  196. jamie b. says:
    @Kronos

    …when I show this video over lunch conversations…

    If you really do like to squander 7 minutes of your coworker’s lunch break on a Youtube video, the resulting awkward silence probably isn’t what you think it is.

    • Replies: @Kronos
  197. Polemos says:
    @LRFD

    What they are doing is bringing a popular opposition into existence with insurrectionist tendencies. It is monumentally stupid. It is extremely dangerous.

    But it is a scenario that the Jade Helm exercises have been steadily preparing the military and civil infrastructures for. Pockets of localized resistance— various forms of resistance from guerrilla insurgency to formalized secession —with actors blended in to the various levels of the logistics train was part of the narrative justifying the practice and implementation. Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan have given many opportunities to study insurgence and COIN and the logistics involved with fragmented, balkanized regions; Jade Helm operations provide opportunities for practice in North America. Some local cops and sheriffs brought on board learn how to work alongside the feds, and the ones who aren’t brought on board, in their natural suspicion, provide their own free penetration testing. (Kinda like us commentators who don’t know which of the others posting are machines learning)

    Like with Event 201, the situation anticipated and arrived justifies the practice predicting its inevitabity, and good money spent shouldn’t go to waste.

    (For instance, all those DUMBs built for surviving our oncoming cataclysm have to be used for something, even though now it’s clear they won’t be useful for the Nova event when there’s an additional 3000 ft of snow and ice on top of them. That space is now going to the gullible amongst the very rich and corrupt.)

  198. @Charon

    He was also lauding Pence’s decision, which is an interesting way to split the baby.

  199. @Wilkey

    For the love of Christ at this point you have to be intentionally obtuse.

    They don’t loathe themselves, they loathe us. This stuff is most virulent in the most exclusive schools. These people do not have self-esteem issues to put it mildly and it’s getting worse.

    This is like saying that the armies of Alexander the Great loathed themselves. These people are sweeping away all before them and you’re worried about their feelings.

    Unreal.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave, Bill
    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
  200. Kronos says:
    @Paperback Writer

    The expansion of NATO eastward despite promises not to incorporate former Warsaw countries?

  201. Kronos says:
    @Cloudbuster

    I find it a superb demonstration of the consequences of a Neocon foreign policy.

  202. Jack D says:
    @Anon7

    Speaking of non knowing that fire is hot, what about all those fools in the Capitol having their pictures taken with no masks? Forget about Covid, Antifa know that you should ALWAYS wear a mask when you are committing Federal crimes. Did these fools think that Nancy Pelosi would forgive and forget? Emerson said, “When you strike at a king, you must kill him.” All these folks did was to stir up the hornets nest and now there are a bunch of angry hornets trying to track them down.

    It was only by good fortune that only 1 demonstrator was shot. The MSM, the Left and the Permanent Government (3 names for the same thing) clearly has no sympathy for a “right wing mob” and if Nancy’s bodyguards had mowed down whole rows of them they would be regarded as heroes. Just because the police can’t shoot black people anymore doesn’t mean that they don’t have impunity to shoot “violent” white insurrectionists. Sentencing the seditionists/terrorists/no good bad people to long prison terms is also on the table.

    • Agree: MEH 0910, LRFD
  203. @Reg Cæsar

    Van der Lubbe was claimed innocent in a song by the Berlin band Einstürzende Neubauten, which means “collapsing new buildings”.

    I would translate it as “imploding”.

  204. MEH 0910 says:

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @MEH 0910
  205. @RadicalCenter

    Yeah – societal pressure rises – or: Is risen. Trump looked like a way out. But that was back then in 2016. I still don’t see that the regular folks would get (physically) mad at representatives of the powers that be though.

    On a lesser scale: This might be one reason, why the regular Hollywood revenge thriller is close to dead now. Instead, we get these endless Netflix plots of basically undecipherable complexity. – The opponent or the bad guy has somewhat morphed into – darkness, multiplied with complexion and repetition. Even the thrillers have turned into something rather boring and – exhaustive. (One reason I quit this scene altogether years ago. I rather type a few comments after dinner and then relax and have a look at the fireplace. Or listen to Rosenmüller, or Giovanni Palestrina, Luigi Boccherini, Johann Caspar von Kerll, Johann Heinrich Schmelzer, Lowell George, and the like.

  206. Mr. Anon says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    There are some parallels here. I don’t believe for a moment that Nancy Pelosi thinks Wednesday was an attempted coup (I think she’s evil, not stupid). But there are millions of Americans who believe what they see on TV and what they read in the media, and many of them probably DO think so, because that’s what they’re being told.

    My whole family thinks that. They believe everything they’re told. The rap that millenials and Gen-X’ers put on boomers is largely true: they believe anything they see on TV or in the mainstream media.

  207. J.Ross says:
    @Peter D. Bredon

    Skipping counsel altogether is far better than taking advice as bad as that.

  208. @Reg Cæsar

    As I said, the Steinbrenner test was Mr. Steve’s idea. I think he was more than half serious about it. And I did get the impression, that in the eyes of our quite generous and rather brilliant host – no: Mr.Trump did not master it, unfortunately.

    (Pres. did not pass the Unz-exam too. That would have been a tad harder overall, meh´think).

  209. J.Ross says:
    @JMcG

    True in hindsight. The point is though that you can misjudge how badly you have smashed the guy. The Japanese thought they were successful. They did it in the first place because they thought it would work.

  210. @El Dato

    In the late noughties UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown got bothered about very poor Brits and ex-prisoners who no one would give a bank account to. He was going to basically force the banks to give everyone an account if they wanted one.

    The banks took him quietly to one side and explained to him how useful it could be if politically bad people had to struggle to just carry out everyday transactions. Not criminals of course, they have no trouble.

  211. @PhysicistDave

    Apparently, a Capitol cop is dead. Did someone shoot the guy in cold-blooded murder? Nail the murderer.

    Emphasis on “Apparently”. Smartphones in practically everyones hand, plus cctv, and only nebulous details about a “fight/scuffle”. ID of killer not said. Possibility: Antifa wierdo, hence his photo and ID not revealed. Possibility two: made up to take attention away from girl who was shot.

  212. anon[296] • Disclaimer says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    Problem is the election was in no way dubious.

    Trolling Dolt

  213. Reichstag fire bad?

    This sent the German population into a panic and isolated the Communists further among the civilians; additionally, thousands of Communists were imprisoned in the days following the fire (including leaders of the Communist Party of Germany) on the charge that the Party was preparing to stage a putsch.

    Nope, wouldn’t want that.
    Poor, poor, Communist Party.

  214. Ouch! – there was a fire in Dresden too, but Ted Cruz you know that guy, I might have been with him, he lied. And Trump lied too…

    “They’re part of the big lie, the big lie. I was being reminded by a friend of mine, and maybe you were with me, I can’t recall, when we told that, you know, Goebbels and the great lie, you keep repeating the lie, repeating the lie. Well, there was a print that when Dresden [in Germany] was bombed, firebombed [in WOrld War II], there were 250 people that were killed — was it 2,500 people that were killed? And Goebbels said no, 25,000 — or 250,000 were killed. And our papers printed that. Our papers printed it. It’s big lie [sic]. People will notice — it’s one thing for one man, or one woman, to repeat the lie over and over and over again. By the way, Trump said [sic] that before he ran. If you say it enough, I’m going to convince you, I’ll say it enough, “The press is bad, the press is bad, the press is bad, the press is bad.” If he’s the only one saying it, that’s one thing. But the acolytes that follow him, like Cruz and others, they are as responsible as he is. And so, it’s not about whether or not they get impeached. It’s about whether or not they help — can continue to hold power because of the disgust the American people have for their actions. There are decent people out there who actually believe these lies. Because they’ve heard it again and again.”

    Oh – and may God help us all.

    • Disagree: PhysicistDave
  215. Jack D says:
    @utu

    probably Grynszpan survived the war.

    Yeah, sure, him and all the other six million Jews who did NOT die in the camps. The man, who had been extremely close to his family, was never heard from again after the war. This is like the Holocaust deniers here who said that my grandparents and aunts were not dead just because they had never been heard from again since the day that the Germans put all of the Jews from their ghetto on a train to Treblinka. How do you really KNOW that they’re dead?

  216. utu says:
    @Jack D

    Are you becoming senile? The fate of Hershel Grynszpan is of some historical importance while what happened to your grandparents and aunts is just statistics. Questions about Grynszpan’s alleged survival WWII are legitimate and have nothing to do with Holocaust denial. Their death or survival neither prove or disprove Holocaust.

    There is a photograph from a displaced persons camp in 1946 which was matched to Grynszpan with facial recognition test.

    There was an interesting coincidence in 2016 where the appearance of Hershel Grynszpan bracketed the assassination of Russian ambassador in Turkey:

    Foreshadowing:

    Sun 18 Dec 2016 01.00 EST
    Photo mystery of Jewish assassin used by Nazis to justify Kristallnacht
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/dec/18/herschel-grynszpan-photo-mystery-jewish-assassin-kristallnacht-pogrom

    The Deed:

    19 December 2016 13:28 EDT
    Russian ambassador’s assassination in Turkey
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4049216/Russian-ambassador-s-assassination-Turkey-organised-NATO-secret-services-provocation-challenge-Moscow-claims-Kremlin-senator.html

    Jewish Gloating after the Death:

    DEC 20, 2016
    Assassination of Russian Ambassador Andrei Karlov was not terrorism, but retribution for Vladimir Putin’s war crimes
    https://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/don-cry-russia-slain-envoy-putin-lackey-article-1.2917281

    “So I, for one, am shedding no tears for Andrei Karlov. Frankly, I’m surprised his murder didn’t come months ago. ”
    “After watching the death of Karlov, I could not help but remember the case of Ernst vom Rath, a Nazi diplomat in France, who was gunned down inside his consulate by a Jewish student in 1938.”

    So as you see Hershel Grynszpan keeps reappearing to play a role in current events. He can foreshadow current events as well as explain them. While your grandparents and aunts provide nutrients in the fields near Treblinka. Media don’t want to resurrect them.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  217. @TelfoedJohn

    Nice. Would welcome it. He’s got some ‘splainin to do. That said, I voted for him twice, even though I find him tedious to listen to. He was the only one who stood up for Liberty. Grant him that.

  218. Kronos says:
    @jamie b.

    It shuts up my Ben Shapiro fanboy colleagues. They keep bitching about Russian aggression China’s civil rights abuses and it’s like WTF?!

    Some of my colleagues are younger millennials who’re simply too young to remember the Bush II years. So they’re much more susceptible to Neocon interventionism because they can’t remember how well it worked last time. I guess it’s easier to sell Bush II if you can’t remember Bush II.

    Essentially, Shapiro is wearing the crown of William F. Buckley Jr. While sitting on the throne of Neoconservatism.

    • LOL: El Dato
    • Replies: @Dieter Kief
  219. @Paul Jolliffe

    The Democratic party unleashed BLM riots on cue in 2015-2016 and again in 2020 to sway the presidential elections. It back-fired on them in 2016 but worked in 2020. It is plain that these riots were paid for and organized by the Democratic party.
    Do they also orchestrate mass murder events when they are in office to tee-up gun control legislation?
    They are certainly capable of it, morally and practically. The Democrats are not a loyal opposition – they are an enemy.

    • Agree: JimB
  220. theMann says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Bar keeper- effing auto correct

  221. @Jack D

    Jack, I’m sorry for your loss. I mean that.

    • Thanks: Jack D
  222. tyrone says:
    @Johann Ricke

    No one knows who Sen. Beauregarde Claghorn is anymore.

  223. Muggles says:
    @Billy Shears

    Did anyone storming the Capitol even have a weapon?

    Not that I’ve read about. Seems like if there were actual evidence this would be front page and/or first minute coverage.

    You see, that’s how a Trump Insurrection works: unarmed demonstrators confront heavily armed police.

  224. Jack D says:
    @utu

    Maybe Hershel killed that cop in DC the other day?

  225. Muggles says:
    @Hannah Katz

    If the Nazis could have shut down Parler, they would have. Just like Nanzi.

    Nice!

  226. Muggles says:
    @Rob McX

    I was waiting for the punchline “…and then they got burned to the ground”. Livingston must be very remote indeed.

    Livingston MT is very remote, and small. North of Yellowstone Park a ways, it is very near the scenic Yellowstone river valley. That area is extremely popular with “Hollywood ranchers” and the TV series Yellowstone (about local vs non local rich ranchers) is set there. Celebrities buy “ranches” to get away from California or the NE shitholes they create and champion. Leave in the winter, mostly.

    Very small population. Less than 8,000.

    Probably almost zero blacks or other non whites. A few perhaps.

    Being pro BLM is very popular with over-educated Montanans who rarely see anyone who is a POC.

    Absence makes the heart grow fonder, etc. (I used to live there and still visit.)

    • Thanks: Rob McX
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @black sea
  227. m___ says:
    @notsaying

    As I said years before today, the middle classes are suicidal catering to religion of “capitalism”.

  228. anon[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    There’s a reason we all don’t belong together. We can’t share each others torment, nor do we share each others victory or joy. Our celebrations aren’t for the same thing. People will always be in a constant state of turmoil without being with their own.

    GOD

  229. @anon

    They will win 2022 easily; ballot harvesting, provisional ballots, absentee ballots, mail in voting – just get enough laser printers going and they have all the “ballots” they want.

    Republicans control more than 30 legislatures, including nearly all the most competitive states’. A few are stuck with D governors, but Evers, Wolf, and Whitmer* especially cannot be all that popular at the moment.

    But they’d better work fast:

    Democrats lost nearly 1,000 state legislative seats while Obama was in office. Under Trump, they’ve won back almost half. Can they close the gap this November?

    Mail-in ballots and electronic voting are banned in Europe, and absentee voting strictly controlled. You generally have to be out of the country. These legislatures have to get cracking and impose such restrictions in their own states. As The Spectator put it, America needs to enter the 21st century– by going back to the 19th.

    No doubt to send them a coupon for a free ice cream cone in Joe Biden’s fave flavor!

    Bill Gates may have one to spare:

    While fumbling to find his 50-cent coupon to buy butter pecan ice cream at a convenience store near his home in suburban Seattle, Bill Gates so exasperated those in line that a shopper behind him slammed the two quarters on the counter.

    As Mr. Gates left, the unknowing philanthropist shouted, “Pay me back when you earn your first million.”

    The other shoppers knew Mr. Gates, chairman of Microsoft Corp., had already made his first million. In fact, on that night in 1990, he was worth something more than $3 billion.

    https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-1992-03-30-1992090039-story.html

    However, another tech entrepreneur may be in danger of being canceled:

    …Mitch Kapor, co-founder of Lotus (“has a $6 million house on 22 acres in Brookline, (Mass.) a $12 million jet and probably the world’s foremost collection of vintage Hawaiian shirts”).

    * Evers, Wolf, and Whitmer = “EWW!”

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    , @Desiderius
  230. Cortes says:
    @Joe Stalin

    Fascinating.

    A bit like the 11th Rule of the Law of Jante, perhaps?

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Jante

    Deplorables may not be presumed to have eyes to see.

  231. @Ron Mexico

    Scott Adams spoke about Gabbard and Manchin for the right price being those allies…

    Didn’t the Dems do that with Jim Jeffords?

    Tulsi, bless her soul, is probably not for sale. Manchin might be bought with gifts for his state, which needs help.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  232. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    Berlin probably didn’t buy the notion that Grynszpan acted on his own and thought he was the pawn of some greater conspiracy. So they kept him alive with the intention of presumably executing him after a nice show trial when the war calmed down and they extracted every bit of information they could.

    Same thing happened to Georg Elser a year later. The SS just refused to accept that he acted alone, so they kept him alive to figure out who managed him, before they threw him to Goebbels for the requisite show trial and dispatchment. As the war dragged on, people lost interest. He was just kept in special custody in Sachsenhausen until the end of the war when the Nazis ordered a mass purge of any loose ends before they imploded. Don’t think it is unreasonable to assume that Grynszpan met the same fate.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @utu
  233. nebulafox says:
    @MEH 0910

    Oh, yeah, because the foreign one worked out so well. Biden ought to know, he was there for that.

    There are two ways that we can end up with civil strife on a level that makes what went on in 2020 look like child’s play: the combination of indefinite lockdowns, bungled vaccination, and relief aid withdrawal, and the Democrats attempting a full on social purge of people they deem ideologically undesirable with the cooperation of Big Tech. So far, looks like the governing class is aiming for both. Unfortunately, cooling the kettle is going to require increasing material standards for Americans and giving people a future to look forward to, and they’ll never contemplate that.

  234. @Muggles

    Livingston MT is very remote, and small. North of Yellowstone Park a ways, it is very near the scenic Yellowstone river valley.

    It’s on the banks of the Yellowstone. Are you suggesting it’s in the unscenic stretch?

    That area is extremely popular with “Hollywood ranchers” and the TV series Yellowstone (about local vs non local rich ranchers) is set there.

    Nearby Bozeman, home of Montana State U, is now referred to as “Boze Angeles”.

    Bozeman and Carbondale, Ill. would seem to be the last places to look for a film school, but damn…

    Film Ranking 2018: Montana State University

    Film Ranking 2018: Southern Illinois University Carbondale

    They have a lot of competition now, but in 1980 these were about the only US film schools outside the NYC-Chi-LA axis.

  235. El Dato says:
    @Cortes

    This may be the month where the Internet died a bit, too:

    https://www.rt.com/op-ed/512044-capitol-democrats-coup-trump/

    As the country’s most despicable journalists and pundits cheer for the unaccountable tech tyrants, budding dictators abroad are surely taking notes. Building relationships with the tech titans is the modern equivalent of seizing a television studio, and popular movements can be easily suppressed with their cooperation. If the world’s loudest and proudest democracy is doing it, why can’t they?

    And who’s to say Silicon Valley’s giants themselves would stop at the US border? What is to stop them taking a dislike to some politician overseas and snuffing them out like Donald Trump? After all if the leader of the most powerful nation on Earth can be deleted, what chance do the rest of them have?

    Back in the US, Trump has far more supporters than the mob who broke into the Capitol on Wednesday. He has 75 million of them, more than the population of the UK. Denied the opportunity to speak freely online and with their views branded as “extremist,” would anyone be surprised if they decided to take more drastic action?

    Nations not willing to gimp up to crazed Sillycon Plutocrats will put Twitter, Facebook and Google on a shorter leash.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  236. Rob McX says:
    @theMann

    Drugs are illegal, everybody who wants them has them. Where guns are illegal, everybody who wants them will, eventually, have them.

    In places like El Salvador, yes. But in places such as the US and Europe, the vast majority of people comply with the legal restrictions on gun ownership. Habitual criminals will acquire guns to commit crimes with, but most people don’t want to risk a criminal conviction by being caught with one. Millions of people buy drugs for personal use, but hardly any of them would buy an illegal firearm.

  237. @Paperback Writer

    Paperback Writer wrote to me:

    They were trespassing. Trespassers get arrested.

    Sometimes. Very rarely in fact. In any case, “arrested” is different than “killed.”

    You also have to decide who legitimately owns a piece of property before you can decide who is trespassing. The Congress critters were in the process of stealing an election. On property paid for by the American taxpayers. Seems to me that that makes the Congress critters the trespassers — using property owned by someone else for illegitimate purposes.

    Yes, yes, I know: “the courts have spoken.” Except in most of the lawsuits, the courts simply refused to take the cases. Failing to speak is not the same as speaking. And, anyway, nothing in the Constitution gives the courts the final say, as Jefferson pointed out. If the Supremes ordered all the blacks in this country to be killed, no one would obey.

    PW also wrote:

    [Dave]As I have said before, I would not have done that: I have a deep aversion to breaking things and a virtual phobia about breaking glass.

    [PW} Then don’t excuse those who do.

    Why not? I also would not work as a high-rise construction worker. Does that mean I cannot admire those who do that work?

    PW alsso wrote:

    The way to oppose them is not with stunts like this.

    In all sincerity, how do you feel about that “stunt” in December 1773 when a bunch of “Mohawks” turned Boston Harbor into a teapot?

    As I said, I honestly lack all the information needed to judge what happened in the January 6, 2021 Battle of Washington.

    I think you do too.

  238. @dimples

    The same historians consensualize that Pearl Harbor was a surprise attack by the Japanese in 1941.

    It was clearly invited. The Brain Trust wondered, “What took them so long?”

  239. @PhysicistDave

    If the Supremes ordered all the blacks in this country to be killed, no one would obey.

    Not that many here wouldn’t be tempted.

    (Maybe if the Ronettes or the Vandellas or the Pips did…)

    In all sincerity, how do you feel about that “stunt” in December 1773 when a bunch of “Mohawks” turned Boston Harbor into a teapot?

    So that’s where iced tea came from. I prefer the unsalted variety, though.

  240. @Desiderius

    I vote for obtuse, and not just garden variety obtuse, but willfully obtuse. This requires effort. All this time spent here, and not a single thing concerning the carefully cultivated hatred directed toward whites for decades that has been clearly outlined by poster after poster here has even made a dent. The march through the institutions, the unassimilable (designedly so) mass of substandard inmigrants designated to demographically overwhelm, the gutting of the laws by the radical leftist judiciary and “civil society” organizations? Whaa? A case study in GOPe self-immolation. Wow.

    Sorry, Wilkey, I am not being very kind here, you seem well disposed; but dude, do you not know what time it is, and how we got to this juncture? It was through the focused malice of the left, the dereliction of what has passed for conservative thought, and the lulling of the populace through artificially-sustained consumerism. Bovine complacency as we are led to the waiting abattoir of anti-white hatred.

  241. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    Grynszpan was also at Sachsenhausen and was not reliably seen by anyone after 1942. People died like flies in the camps – they didn’t even have to execute you. Typhus, starvation, etc.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  242. utu says:
    @nebulafox

    The reason I mentioned Grynszpan in the first place: Germans did not have what it takes to make a show trials for which you needed to manufacture the evidence. If it was NKVD Grynszpan would testify and give names of his co-conspirators with the full list of the Elders of Zion and his mother and father if that was a part of NKVD script.

    Did he survive the war is not a part of my argument. But there are people who believe that he did survive. Including researchers of Jewish museum in Vienna.

    Grynszpan’s parents who survived the war and ended up in Israel had him pronounced dead in 1960, which enabled them to draw a pension from the German state.

    His father testified in Eichmann trial in 1961 and made strange statement: “I have found no proof that he survived.”

    “Fuhrer and Prokisch, the head archivist at Vienna’s Jewish Museum, are convinced the newly-discovered photograph shows Grynszpan. A face recognition test on the photograph, taken on 3 July, 1946 in a camp for displaced persons (DPs) in Bamberg, southern Germany, returned a 95% likelihood – considered the highest possible match.

    In the picture Grynszpan appears to be taking part in a demonstration of Holocaust survivors protesting British authorities’ refusal to let them emigrate to Palestine. The demonstrators are being guarded by armed US army military police standing on a lorry.”

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Jack D
  243. @PhysicistDave

    1) Ashli Babbitt was shot entering a space where the Senators (though I suspect VP Pence was in there also) were being shepherded out of. The cops behind her were building security, the cops in front who shot her were Secret Service or personnel security. She was hit upper left chest; looked close enough to have damaged the pericardium.

    2) Brian Sicknick, a US Capitol Police officer, was hit on the head with a fire extinguisher during a fight with some protesters. He acted fine but later, on returning to the squad-room, he collapsed due to brain clots from the injury. Ironically he was a Trump fan, although I suspect a lot of Capitol police are as well.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Moses
    , @Desiderius
  244. PapayaSF says:
    @Not Only Wrathful

    harm them just a little and they’ll hit back

    That’s the point! Persecute Trump supporters, blatantly steal the election, ignore Antifa/BLM riots, and hope some angry patriot does something violent they can call “right-wing terror.” Then they have an excuse for more gun control. They can informally outsource the speech suppression to woke Big Tech, and then online cancel culture mobs act as decentralized digital brownshirts to identify Wrongthinkers and get them fired or otherwise punished. All in the name of fighting “racism” and “fascism” and all the other isms.

  245. nebulafox says:
    @utu

    Maybe he died of disease, maybe he was executed in the end of the war while papers were being burned left and right: plenty of people just disappeared toward the end. I lean toward the latter given how the Nazis tended to treat prisoners ike Grynszpan coupled with the internal dynamics of the regime during the last months of the war, but the former is plausible, too, as Jack said.

    It doesn’t really matter. However it happened, Grynszpan was deader than a door nail by 1945.

    >Germans did not have what it takes to make a show trials for which you needed to manufacture the evidence. If it was NKVD Grynszpan would testify and give names of his co-conspirators with the full list of the Elders of Zion and his mother and father if that was a part of NKVD script.

    The two regimes had more differences than similarities, but not when it came to what happened to people who assassinated regime officials. And Goebbels was never shy about putting on spectacles for propaganda value. If he didn’t get to humiliate Grynszpan in front of the public, it was because Hitler wanted him alive and overruled him: and the only reason he would have wanted that was because he didn’t think he acted on his own.

    Besides, the Germans didn’t need to manufacture evidence for Grynszpan (or Elser): everybody knew he was guilty. I guess in that case it wouldn’t have been a “show trial”.

    >Grynszpan’s parents who survived the war and ended up in Israel had him pronounced dead in 1960, which enabled them to draw a pension from the German state.

    Just like other Holocaust survivors and the state of Israel itself. Nothing unusual there.

  246. @Reg Cæsar

    The Microserfs used to have a saying: “DOS isn’t done ’til Lotus won’t run!”

    At one point in 1984, Microsoft made a serious bid to buy Lotus, and Kapor came very close to accepting it. He was tired of the day-to-day grind and was willing to sell out for a chunk of MSFT stock and a ceremonial seat on the Microsoft board. But Lotus president Jim Manzi, seeing that he would be left out in the cold, talked Kapor out of it.

    Shortly before he left Apple, Steve Jobs told Bill Gates that Word and Excel were destined to flop because a competing program from Lotus – Jazz – was designed to do everything both of those programs could do (and more) while still fitting on one floppy disk. Jobs was dead wrong: Jazz ended up as a notorious failure, while Word and Excel went on to conquer the world. More Jazz packages were returned to the factory than had been shipped. (In other words, even the pirated copies were returned.)

  247. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    Grynszpan was not the kind of prisoner the Germans would have wanted interacting with other prisoners. Think isolation, interrogation, solitary confinement, not death through labor in crowded barracks. And in his case, probably torture, albeit not at an intense level to kill him before they extracted what they wanted: hence my theory that he got nailed during the regime’s collapse when they ordered all such prisoners liquidated. But then, Grynszpan was always sickly, right? He could have died naturally.

    (Again, does it really matter? The takeaway is that man did not make it through the war.)

    Sachsenhausen was one of the camps where the Nazis plopped “high-security” prisoners like that, due to its geographical proximity to Berlin: Elser also ended up there, and from what I recall, so did Stalin’s son.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  248. Anon[326] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr. X

    You say that as if it would be a bad thing.

  249. Jack D says:
    @utu

    made strange statement: “I have found no proof that he survived.”

    There is absolutely nothing strange about that. What else could they say? That’s how it went for most who disappeared in the war – after a certain date the person is never seen again – there are no documents or reliable witnesses that indicate that the person is alive, so therefore you conclude that they are dead.

    I

    • Replies: @utu
  250. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    From the wiki:

    French doctor Alain Cuenot, who made the most extensive search for Grynszpan during the late 1950s, reported that he found no evidence that Grynszpan was alive; Cuenot found no references to Grynszpan in German documents after 1942, which strongly suggested that he had died that year….[50] Cuenot noted that due to poor living conditions at Sachsenhausen, epidemics regularly killed thousands of inmates; he speculated that Grynszpan may have died in an epidemic, and SS camp officers would have a vested interest in covering up his death because he was supposed to be kept alive to be tried.[50]

    Typhus is spread by lice and the lice jump from prisoner to prisoner so even if they kept Grynszpan isolated from the general population he could have gotten it. We are seeing now how epidemics spread like wildfire in prisons.

  251. People need to calmly remind the half-wits and other leftoids of the rioting that took place the day Trump was inaugurated; the pussy hat marches when eighty year old grannies dressed as vaginas cavorted through the downtowns of America cities and decried Trump’s election; the crowds who crashed congressional office buildings during the Kavanaugh hearings; and of the criminal assault that took place of Trump’s supporters even before the 2016 election.

    Don’t blink, answer the lefties calmly and wait for this to pass over calmly, which it will. Republicans who want a political future had especially do this. Any of them who waffles in terror, pearl clutches and apologizes for a prank can kiss his political future good-bye, Mitt Romney and Mitch McConnell.

  252. Moses says:
    @hooodathunkit

    Ironically he was a Trump fan, although I suspect a lot of Capitol police are as well.

    Um, no.

    Most Capitol police are Black. Blacks vote Dem 9:1.

    Plus Blacks have been taught relentlessly to hate Whites for the last 20 years at least.

    Do the math.

  253. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    … Domain Name Servers (DNS) are far fewer in number and can be hacked in various ways by the big tech players. …

    Do not be surprised if sometime in the next 10 days the internet suddenly becomes a collection of Google approved sites, and all your email is not working….except for gmail…which Google reads continuously.

    Make a note of the IP addresses of important websites so you can access those directly. This assumes that the sites manage to hang on to their IP addresses for now, and that your ISP is not forced to block “non-compliant” IP’s as is already happening in Canada and Europe.

    To find the IP address, open an command prompt in Windows and type e.g.

    tracert unz.com

    The IP address for UNZ.COM is 104.26.12.29. However, at present, the “Cloudflare” service used by UNZ.COM does not permit direct access using the IP address.

  254. black sea says:
    @Muggles

    I worked in Yellowstone Park in the 1980s. I knew a guy who drove a garbage truck for the Park Service. He owned a few acres in Paradise Valley, enough to keep some horses or cattle (I forget which, maybe both), and a house of sorts.

    I guess those days are long, long gone.

  255. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  256. @Whiskey

    Yes, in Japan too. An izakaya (Japanese pub) my wife and I frequent stayed open with regular hours throughout everything. They kept a sign in front advertising take-out, but if you went in and asked to be seated, no problem. Of course, my wife and I gave them our business. In the middle of the first State of Emergency, what a relief it was to go into that “Nipponese Speak-Easy”.

  257. utu says:
    @Jack D

    “..there are no documents or reliable witnesses that indicate that the person is alive, so therefore you conclude that they are dead.” – Not when it is about your child. You keep hope though a prospect of German pension may affect your actions which would lead to internal conflict.

    Here you can see fragment of footage of Hershel Grynszpan’s father (Zindel) and brother (Mordechai) both testifying at Eichmann trial:
    https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1001070

    I could not find transcript to see what was the context when Zindel Grynszpan speculated on his son’s being dead or alive.

    I wonder if Grynszpans wrote a book about their life during WWII. Did they survive in Poland or did they go back to Germany? How many people did it take , many of them risking their lives, to help them survive?

    I though that I made it clear that the only reason I brought Grynszpan up was to illustrate the apparent ‘ineptitude’ of Nazis when it came to propaganda and engineering of show trials. They just did not have what it took. The question is what was holding them back. Why NKVD could manufacture and procure all kinds of nonsensical conspiracy theories that could be presented in show trials while Gestapo was reluctant to weave in more characters into the plot as the ones who instigated Grynszpan to kill the German official. The answer is simple. Nazi Gestapo was not NKVD. Nazi court system was not Soviet court system. Nazis were Germans not Asiatic Judeo-Boslheviks.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Jack D
    , @Jack D
  258. @PhysicistDave

    Why didn’t you take the bullet for Ashli, Physicist Dave?

    If her cause was so right, why did you leave it to a little woman to do the job of a man?

    In fact, this question is directed to all the keyboard warriors defending this outrageous stunt.

    Why weren’t you there?

    • Troll: vinteuil
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @PhysicistDave
  259. @Kronos

    William F. Buckley Jr. was a smoker. A man of manners, humor, irony and – style. – Ben Shapiro has a tiny little bit of humor, ok. But then I run out of parallels, so to speak. So – no.

  260. nebulafox says:
    @utu

    More to the point, I think Hitler often tried to force himself to behave like a mercurial, murderous autocrat when he wasn’t one naturally. Both Joachim Fest and Martin Van Creveld allude to this. He’d go to great lengths to hide what he was doing from himself, as well as the effects of bombing, the reality of wounded soldiers, etc. His hatreds were deadly, but always abstract, somewhat unreal: when he talks about the Jews, one gets the vibe that one would get about a gamer talking about enemies he is destroying.

    In this, he couldn’t have been less like Stalin: who genuinely enjoyed keeping his subordinates in a constant state of terror. The fundamental difference did reflect within the dynamics of the regime, coupled with the fact that the Nazi state only fully departed from legalism when the 1940s began.

    To be sure, there were individual Nazis that could (and did) kill without compunction or remorse and could not have cared less about human suffering, Stalin style: Hermann Goering was one of them before morphine fully overtook him, for example. But they didn’t have the power to dictate what the regime did. The majority of moral monsters in Nazi Germany seemed to be more Stangl, less Dirlewanger, if you get my drift.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @utu
    , @JMcG
  261. nebulafox says:
    @MEH 0910

    If you want to “de-radicalize” your people and not have them believe in conspiracy theories, not locking them down, not bungling vaccination rollouts, and not slowly squeezing their future away from them in general seems like a good first step.

    Everybody not part of “the Blob” in American society seems to view the government as alien to them. They disagree wildly on who controls it and why and who is to blame, but nobody views the government as fundamentally beholden to them or working in their interests. And why should they? Nobody with less than a million in their bank account is under any illusions that they can influence the state in a meaningful way. It is alien and hostile to them. If you create a rentier economy churning out an aristocracy and serfs, don’t be surprised when the latter view you as a threat to be avoided and subverted when possible, and the former view you as a petty annoyance to be manipulated when possible.

    (And big corporations are even worse. A few CEOs in Silicon Valley now have more power than the Supreme Court. Hooray! We get to have the 1A dictated by the likes of Zuckerberg and Dorsey. You can always trust them with your best interests.)

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  262. @PhysicistDave

    No, we don’t, but most of the things we could do about it should have been done long ago so the veil of ignorance is a decent enough port in this storm.

    I doubt it will be going forward.

  263. @El Dato

    75 mil < 1% of global pop

    None of this can be understood outside the global context, and once the 75 mil learns to they’ll recognize that the market/voting power they were relying on in lieu of honoring their sacred and civic duties is as dust.

  264. @Reg Cæsar

    It’s my understanding that lockdown governors are very popular in their states.

  265. MEH 0910 says:
    @nebulafox

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Scher

    Scher has been known to take positions that are controversial within liberal circles. In 2012, he published an op-ed in The New York Times titled “How Liberals Win”[7] which argued that liberals should treat “corporate power as a force to bargain with, not an enemy to vanquish”. After the Edward Snowden leaks, he defended the record of the National Security Agency from a liberal perspective in essays for The Week[8] and POLITICO Magazine.[9]

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/01/opinion/sunday/how-liberals-win.html

    http://theweek.com/articles/463339/liberal-case-hightech-nsa-surveillance

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/05/the-liberal-case-for-the-nsa-107213.html

  266. Jack D says:
    @utu

    Nazis were Germans not Asiatic Judeo-Bolsheviks.

    Right. This is why they were able to construct highly efficient death factories where they could quickly and efficiently produce massive quantities of a product to high standards.

    Unfortunately, the product that they were making was death. When the “Judeo-Bolsheviks” (Jews have been noted for their violence and cruelty for centuries – in the Ukraine whenever an innocent Christian saw a gang of rabbinical students ride into town on their horses they would run and hide from the Jew pogrom) wanted to kill the Polish officer corp in the Katynsky Woods, they had to do it one by one (with German pistols because Russian hardware was not up to the job). The Stakhanovite NKVD officer Blokhin personally shot 7,000 – very hard work, took days and then they had to bury the bodies. Typical Russian inefficiency – the Germans could do 7,000 in an hour in their death factory and only a little pile of ashes would remain.

    This is why the Germans were able to outproduce the Soviet Union in death (24 million dead Soviets alone vs. 7 million dead Germans) by 3 to 1.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @utu
  267. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    Both the Nazis and the Soviets used the forms of legalism when it suited them (and ignored them when it didn’t) throughout their entire history. Neither could have come to or retained power in a legal fashion and both made massive use of illegal terror, violence and murder to accomplish their goals so mostly the legalism was window dressing for the Western bourgeois world.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @JMcG
  268. Jack D says:
    @utu

    .

    there are no documents or reliable witnesses that indicate that the person is alive, so therefore you conclude that they are dead.” – Not when it is about your child. You keep hope though a prospect of German pension may affect your actions which would lead to internal conflict.

    It’s quite possible that the Grynszpan’s family privately hoped that he was still alive while at the same time asking for a legal declaration of death. This is quite common in case of missing loved ones and one does not preclude the other.

    However, I can tell you that my parents had no doubts that their parents (in my father’s case) and some of their siblings (in both their cases) were dead (along with 90%+ of everyone they had ever known before the war – all their schoolmates, neighbors, cousins, etc.). When I was a child I had fantasies that they had somehow escaped and had just not reconnected with the family, but when I grew up I realized that was just not possible. Great efforts were made at the end of the war to reunite families and in the vast majority of cases were successful if there was anyone left to reunite. There were a handful of cases where for some reason each sibling thought the other was dead and did not reconnect for decades after the war or ever, but you could count such cases on the fingers of one hand vs. the many thousands of survivors who were able to reconnect. If you did not appear again at the end of the war, this meant that you were dead.

    Here you can see fragment of footage of Hershel Grynszpan’s father (Zindel) and brother (Mordechai) both testifying at Eichmann trial:
    https://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/irn1001070

    I could not find transcript to see what was the context when Zindel Grynszpan speculated on his son’s being dead or alive.

    The video is fragmentary and the audio is poor. The part of Zindel’s testimony that is on the video is a discussion over which language he will speak (he offers either German or Yiddish and they settle on Yiddish), his swearing in and the judge pretending that Zindel is not a real name (because it’s not a Zionist Hebrew name such as one should have in Israel). Zindel then tells him that his Hebrew name is Shmiel (Samuel in Polish accented Yiddish) and this is still not good enough for the judge so finally he admits to Shmuel with is a proper Hebrew name. And then the tape cuts off. His son speaks in Hebrew – I guess as a younger man he learned it better and takes the familiar oath (“the whole truth and nothing but the truth” – Israel is a common law country) and then is asked about the last time he had contact with his brother (some time in the 1930s) and then the tape cuts off.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  269. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    >This is why the Germans were able to outproduce the Soviet Union in death (24 million dead Soviets alone vs. 7 million dead Germans) by 3 to 1.

    As I mentioned in an earlier comment, by 1938, much of Europe was ruled by some variant of right-wing dictatorial regime, as were multiple non-European powers like Brazil, China, and Japan, and even countries that weren’t like France had to deal with prominent far-right movements in their politics. One would have been rational to conclude that democracy was in decline. What made Nazism distinctly pre-1933 German wasn’t that it was a far-right totalitarian movement, or that it was anti-Semitic.

    What made it German was that it was the most radical, absolute manifestation of these movements. The “I can do no other” nature streak, if you will. In Hitler’s fixation on what ought to be rather than what is, he was truly German. It should go without saying that such a mentality is not evil in and of itself. The intellectual profundity and rigor that comes with the willingness to shrink from no logical conclusion is a huge part of why the German speaking world won more scientific Nobel Prizes than the rest of Europe + the USA/Russia combined before WWII. Applied to politics, though, and the risks are obvious.

    This mentality sharply decreased with the war generation. The Nazis kicked off the process in their attempts to get the young to think in more communitarian, pragmatic terms, and the war intensified the process. So, as with much else, Hitler was simultaneously the exponent and destroyer of something.

    > Neither could have come to or retained power in a legal fashion and both made massive use of illegal terror, violence and murder to accomplish their goals so mostly the legalism was window dressing for the Western bourgeois world.

    But Hitler did come to power in a legal fashion: in highly stressed circumstances within a republic that was bound for destruction and was in many ways already a de facto authoritarian state by 1930, sure, but it was still no 1917. Hitler already tried his own 1917 in 1923. He failed. That’s why he decided to play the political game instead. He could never fully conceal how unnatural it was for him-end result of that would be WWII-but at the time, he played it successfully.

    His contempt for his conservative rivals and the bourgeois order they represented was justified, in many respects. He had a much more accurate measure of them than they had of him.

    >“Judeo-Bolsheviks”

    While Jews were disproportionately represented within radical leftist movements (and they had no more love for their own religion than for others), this was an outdated stereotype by 1941 after Stalin nailed the Old Bolsheviks. The secret police in particular was demographically overhauled to be dominated by Russians and Caucasians rather than the old guard of Jews and Latvians.

    Stalin and Hitler had more differences and similarities, but one thing they did share in common was that people grossly underestimated them, both as minds and as political operators.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  270. @Paperback Writer

    Because we’re terrified of ignorant bigots like yourself in your millions and what you’d do to us and our families. We are at your mercy and as far as we can tell you are utterly merciless and without conscience.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  271. @hooodathunkit

    They’re saying today no evidence of fire extinguisher attack. And there was a SWAT team of some sort around Babbitt taking no apparent action of any sort, nonlethal or otherwise, other than what looks like evacuating just before the shooting.

    I’d invite you to lend your voice of authority to a more productive purpose than bolstering the credibility of the officious narrative.

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  275. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Thanks for the interesting summary. Ironically, when pronouncing the oath formula for the witness to repeat, the judge himself (raised in Germany, apparently moved to Israel in his late 20s or early 30s) repeatedly mispronounces the key word “truth” as “eMET” with the stress on the second syllable. Most Hebrew words carry a stress on the last syllable. “Emet” is an exception with the stress is on the first syllable.

    The English voice-over in the video is over-dramatic, probably read by a student actor, and in any case distracts from the actual dialog that occurred in the courtroom which is quite complex enough with interpretation among different languages. Does anyone know if there is a version of the video with subtitles instead of the annoying voice-over? Ideally, there should be subtitles in the language of the speaker (Hebrew, German, Yiddish etc.) as well as English translations.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Jack D
  276. @El Dato

    You’re making a joke, but having the censorship regime and wokism extend down to the level of our personal computers and the internet’s infrastructure is no joke. I used to think that I could just install older versions of Linux to circumvent problematic newer ones, but that doesn’t actually work due to compatibility issues. I also used to think that at a very basic level, internet access would be protected, even if you couldn’t use certain websites, but with the growing wokism among engineers and the current start of one-party rule by Dems, that is under threat now too.

    Plus, with my music and book libraries increasingly digital, I may not have access to books in the future.

    Luckily, I have paper copies of the Bible, collected works of Shakespeare, and most of the books I enjoyed reading as a child. I have the collected works of Bach on CD, too, and can find old CD players that don’t require internet/computers, but the CDs will not last forever… should have learned to play the piano…

    • Agree: Desiderius
  277. utu says:
    @nebulafox

    “…when he talks about the Jews, one gets the vibe that one would get about a gamer talking about enemies he is destroying…” – This might be true which is one more reason to be very careful with video games.

    “The majority of moral monsters in Nazi Germany seemed to be more Stangl, less Dirlewanger” – Monsters like Stangl were no that much different form the ‘monsters’ who were planning, ordering and dropping bombs on Dresden and Hiroshima. While Dirlewanger was pretty awful all armies had their penal battalions where various criminals were forced or given chance to serve though we do not know much about them. But the Dirlewanger fantasy is alive in Hollywood when The Dirty Dozen are pouring gasoline and dropping grenades on men and women locked in a bunker or more recently more Jewish anti-German porn in the Inglourious Basterds which is so overboard that one’s sympathies shift to the German’s side as that representing sanity and civilization.

  278. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    the judge himself (raised in Germany, apparently moved to Israel in his late 20s or early 30s) repeatedly mispronounces the key word “truth”

    Almost everyone in Israel used to be from someplace else (many still are) so Israelis are used to hearing their language mangled and make allowances for it. They’re just glad that you are making the effort. It’s not like France where people are snooty unless you speak perfect French. Imagine (it’s not hard anymore) that there were hardly any native born Americans left and that all of America consisted of Mexicans speaking broken English with a Spanish accent to Chinese who reply in mangled English with a Chinese accent and there you have Israel in its early decades.

  279. JMcG says:
    @nebulafox

    It’s almost impossible now, but if you try to put yourself in 1937 it’s really difficult to understand why any civilized person would prefer the Soviets to the Nazis. Stalin had starved millions to death in the Ukraine. He’d come in on the side of those who had murdered thousands of priests and nuns in Spain. Hitler’s regime really hadn’t shown its hand yet.
    But it’s just so hard to see with the eyes of a man of that time.

  280. JMcG says:
    @Jack D

    So like the Biden administration then?

  281. JMcG says:
    @nebulafox

    A fantastic comment. You have a gift for putting much into a few sentences. One can tell you’ve given a great deal of thought to the subject. Thanks very much.

  282. Jack D says:
    @utu

    Monsters like Stangl were no that much different form the ‘monsters’ who were planning, ordering and dropping bombs on Dresden and Hiroshima

    Stangl commanded Sobibor and Treblinka which were pure extermination camps where he presided over the murder of 900,000 humans. This is not remotely comparable to wartime bombing of military targets near cities which caused collateral civilian casualties.

    But the Dirlewanger fantasy is alive in Hollywood

    What Dirlewanger did (up to and including child molestation and necrophilia not to mention the slaughter of entire towns, men, women and children) goes far beyond what could ever be shown in a Hollywood movie or any movie that would not make you retch and vomit. Dirlewanger was reportedly kicked to death by his Polish (not Jewish) guards in a French prison camp after the war and died of a skull fracture. One can only hope that this was true and that he did not black out immediately and suffered for a good long time before the deadly blow was struck because no man who ever lived deserved this more.

    • Replies: @utu
  283. @Desiderius

    Because we’re terrified of ignorant bigots like yourself

    Terrified of me?

    Coward.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  284. @utu

    more Jewish anti-German porn

    Quentin Tarantino is Jewish? News to me.

    • Replies: @utu
  285. @Jack D

    Also, a lot of Ashkenazi Israelis come from Russia, where they don’t care if a foreigner messes up the cases as long as you make the effort. They know Russian is a hard language. That said I do admire a people who are so proud of their language even shlubs speak grammatically.

  286. utu says:
    @Paperback Writer

    “Quentin Tarantino is Jewish?” – It does not matter. Franz Werfel was Jewish yet he wrote a Catholic novel: The Song of Bernadette.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  287. Anonymous[249] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Entirely true, of course, but even back in 1961 – 13 years after Israel declared independence – it seems surprising that a judge doesn’t know how to pronounce the word for “truth” correctly. (Although the U.S. also went through periods where it was not unusual for senior politicians from immigrant backgrounds to retain a heavy foreign accent.)

    Also interesting in the Eichmann trial is that, in the interest of linguistic propriety, the three judges had to pretend not to understand what the accused said in German and instead wait for the interpreter to catch up. Of course, everyone in the courtroom will have understood this, but someone viewing the video decades later (especially a video marred by aggressive voice-over) may not pick up on these distinctions.

  288. @Jack D

    This is why the Germans were able to outproduce the Soviet Union in death (24 million dead Soviets alone vs. 7 million dead Germans) by 3 to 1.

    This is why German whining about mistreatment by the victors of WWII is so ludicrous. Since anyone started writing these things down, victors have repaid the human costs incurred in kind, with compound interest calculated the way Sal, your friendly neighborhood loan shark figures out the vig. Germany, including the ethnic German population among its pre-war neighbors who fought for the Reich, was fortunate to have *any* of its inhabitants survive the defeat, given the scale and sheer bloody-mindedness of its extermination of people in territory *under its control*.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  289. @Anonymous

    Also, the widespread aggression against ethnic Germans by the Poles prior to the German invasion, which led to an onslaught of German refugee’s fleeing the Polish pogroms is never mentioned, but was a heavily weighted factor that got WWII going.

    Given that Germany had been making noises about using these German minorities as a pretext to take land from its neighbors, and actually used it to conquer and annex *all* of Czechoslovakia, it was certainly natural for Poland to expel its German minority.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  290. utu says:
    @Jack D

    Your reaction to my rather modest proposition concerning Nazi inability to manufacture evidence and engineer show trials falls into the category of what Ron Unz has called “Jewish berserker” behavior.

    “…a gang of rabbinical students ride into town on their horses they would run and hide from the Jew pogrom…” – I am pretty sure that Cheka and NKVD had quite a few former rabbinical students. It was not just one bad apple like Genrikh Yagoda who presided over 10 million deaths but there were many other Jews there. In 1934 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin.

    “This is why the Germans were able to outproduce the Soviet Union in death (24 million dead Soviets alone vs. 7 million dead Germans) by 3 to 1.” – First of all one alway should be very cautious about statistics coming form the USSR. Who really knows what exactly the number of 24 is comprised of. Second, if the war was waged on German territory for over three years instead of less than 8 months the ratio would be very different. If Germans used its civilian population as Stalin did to fight the invaders with partisans executing collaborators and provoking reprisals the statistics would be different. If Soviets did not use barrier troops to herd their soldiers on mine fields and against machine gun nests the losses of the Red Army would be lower.

  291. utu says:
    @Jack D

    This is not remotely comparable to wartime bombing of military targets near cities which caused collateral civilian casualties.

    Are you making this statement in a good faith? Is this suppose to be applicable to Dresden or Hiroshima? There is as much absurdity in it as in a claim that Jews were collateral civilian casualties in Nazis war against typhus.

    • Replies: @Anon
  292. @utu

    Even for a Sailer commenter, you are demented.

  293. nebulafox says:
    @utu

    The joke about movies like Inglourious Basterds is that it ignores the inconvenient reality that most of Western Europe was happy to sit tight during the German occupation. The “resistance” in most countries were jokes for the most part until the Allies showed up and it was clear that Germany was going to lose the war.

    The only places where this wasn’t true were Poland and the occupied USSR, where the Nazis viewed the locals as subhumans and acted as such, and in Yugoslavia, where things predictably broke down on ethnic lines: the Axis invasion let loose a maelstrom of communal violence that the Germans were largely alien to and didn’t really understand. (The Austrians in the Wehrmacht and the SS did have a better understanding of the dynamics at work and had a massive animus against the Serbs for obvious reasons, hence why you found a lot of them in occupied Yugoslavia.)

    >– Monsters like Stangl were no that much different form the ‘monsters’ who were planning, ordering and dropping bombs on Dresden and Hiroshima.

    The Nazis wanted to exterminate an entire race of people wholesale and launched a massive bureaucratic undertaking to make that happen. There’s no analogue to that except with other… actual genocides.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Desiderius
  294. nebulafox says:
    @Johann Ricke

    > This is why German whining about mistreatment by the victors of WWII

    I’m hard pressed to know any German since the 1960s who has done this. Even those who actually experienced the war know better.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  295. JMcG says:
    @Johann Ricke

    When Czechoslovakia was broken up after its 20 year existence, Poland was happy to seize the share of the corpse that it felt entitled to. There was a lot more going on than is commonly known. The Czechs who were forced into Poland must have been bitterly amused by the cynical guarantees of Polish territorial integrity by France and the UK.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @nebulafox
  296. JMcG says:
    @nebulafox

    I don’t think it’s much of a stretch to say that the only resistance movements that were in any way effective were those that were communist controlled. Perhaps Norway is an exception, but whether or not it’s resistance was effective is open to debate. The allied powers in the west basically provided assistance to one monster in defeating another.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  297. @Patrick McNally

    Thanks for your comment, Patrick McNally. I had a closer look into this thing and now think you are quite right.

    It seems to be lear indeed, that Dutch Anarchist Marinus van der Lubbe set the Reichstag on fire single-handedly.
    Your overall line of argumentation is right: The Nazi-train was on its tracks already. And they were really good at manipulating the public, so – they saw what big opportunity lay in the news of the burning Reichstag as – a real symbol (Ernst Bloch) of the burning Weimar Republic.

    Steve Sailer is right, it is still debated whether the Reichstag might have been set on fire by the Nazis themselves. But – this discussion does reflect the fact that the German liberal public – let alone the mighty left-wing – still has not fully acknowledged, that the Weimar Republic was torn into pieces not only by the right but also by the left. There are still annual leftwing gatherings in Berlin by the party Die Linke (The Left), in honor of communist politicians and street-fighters Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg. – Even though they both clearly wanted to destroy the Weimar Republic and openly declared that they tried to do whatever they could to achieve that goal.

    Sven Felix Kellerhoff has lots of evidence that shows: Marinus van der Lubbe did it, and he did it alone:

  298. MEH 0910 says:

    OT:

  299. @Paperback Writer

    Case in point.

    You do understand what happens when our species allows itself that kind of unfeeling contempt? Especially when backed by the full force of the (post-) American Empire in unbridled self-righteous frenzy?

    What’s the end game here?

  300. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    I agree with you about most current generation Germans but apparently some here don’t know better and still whine about such things and say things like “the invasion of Poland was justified because Poland was mistreating German civilians” which 99% of all modern Germans would not agree with.

    In general, the Germans have done a much better job coming to terms with (and rejecting) their fascist past than other E. European countries where there is still a lot of denial and “we did nothing wrong” attitude, especially on the right.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  301. @MEH 0910

    The irony is that left-sympathetic Tracey is missing the extent to which they’re doing it with Cheney holdover Deep State guns to their heads.

  302. @nebulafox

    The Great War can be understood as analogous to the American Civil War with the Brits entering the former but not the latter, thus extending it to 30 Years (a familiar number for such conflagrations) instead of four. The economic piece is almost scarily similar.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  303. @JMcG

    When Czechoslovakia was broken up after its 20 year existence, Poland was happy to seize the share of the corpse that it felt entitled to. There was a lot more going on than is commonly known. The Czechs who were forced into Poland must have been bitterly amused by the cynical guarantees of Polish territorial integrity by France and the UK.

    Why not? It was either that or have it go to Germany. Land and people are resources that are very usable in wartime. A bigger Germany meant a relatively weaker Poland. Basically, the idea of stable borders we have in the post-war era, enforced by NATO and the Warsaw Pact, did not really exist in Europe, or elsewhere, prior to WWII. Every few years, there’d be a war, and a border would shift. Germany having done its thing during the Franco-Prussian War, WWI, and more recently in Austria and Czechoslovakia, it was merely prudent for Poland to enlarge its territory where possible.

    The principal issue with Germany during WWII wasn’t that it expanded its realm. It’s that it slaughtered vast numbers of people for no reason recognizable in history. All conquerors punished armed revolts harshly. The idea was that as long as the conquered did not engage in armed revolt, they were left alone to live more or less as they had before the conquest, and eventually assimilated into the empire as fully-integrated subjects. Germany slaughtered large numbers of people simply for being what they were. Even without that aspect of German behavior, in-kind retaliation by the eventual victors, with interest tacked on, would have been squarely in the historical tradition. With that aspect included, Germany is fortunate to have survived the war’s aftermath with a single inhabitant left alive.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @PhysicistDave
  304. nebulafox says:
    @JMcG

    Not necessarily. The Polish Resistance was, on the whole, decidedly anti-Communist: notably, the Polish Communist Party refused to join the AK, the main resistance group that would culminate in the Warsaw Uprising in 1944. The Poles were under no illusions about the USSR’s intentions for their nation, not least because Poland fended off a Russian invasion only a couple of decades earlier and because the Soviets were quite happy to partition Poland with the Nazis in 1939.

    In most countries, these sort of anti-Russian, anti-Communist, and to some extent anti-Semitic attitudes (this is a very complicated topic: worth mentioning that more Poles are on the Righteous Gentile memorial in Israel than any other nation despite having a much more visibly unassimilated Jewish populace) would have led to an arrangement of sorts with the Germans. But Nazi racial policies in Poland made this kind of understanding largely impossible.

    As for Yugoslavia: as I said, that broke down on racial lines, with Serbs making up the bulk of the resistance. Plenty of Catholic Croats and Bosnian Muslims angry about decades of Serb Orthodox mistreatment were happy to side with the Germans. The Nazis went to entertaining lengths to explain why, as the descendants of Goths and Turks respectively, they were not Untermenschen.

    • Thanks: JMcG
    • Replies: @Jack D
  305. nebulafox says:
    @JMcG

    The two countries had a non-aggression pact that only collapsed in 1939. Poland was itself ruled by a right-wing authoritarian government with deeply anti-Communist tendencies thanks to 1920. Poland was also a multi-ethnic state struggling to deal with its Ukrainian minority that the Soviets could potentially manipulate: the German minority in the west was nowhere near as numerically strong. Overall, it is not shocking that they’d look at Berlin as the lesser of two evils until it was too late.

    This was helped by the fact that Hitler was an Austrian whose formative experience was pre-war Vienna: his main anti-Slav animus was against Czechs, not Poles. Warsaw probably saw him as easier to deal with than a Zossen junta would have been, and for most of the 1930s, this was true: Hitler could not have cared less about lost West Prussian estates from 1918. (Because he was not really capable of thinking “low scale”.) This is pretty ironic, considering that the German occupation of Poland would turn out to be infinitely more brutal than the occupation of Czechoslovakia was, but there you go.

    • Thanks: JMcG
  306. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    I don’t mean just current generation Germans: you’d have been hard pressed to find somebody who actually lived through the war who thought that Germany didn’t start the war or that the Holocaust didn’t happen. They might not have approached the topic in the way a (from their POV, deeply spoiled) NYT journalist or 68er would have preferred, but they weren’t delusional.

  307. MEH 0910 says:

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  308. Jack D says:
    @Johann Ricke

    With that aspect included, Germany is fortunate to have survived the war’s aftermath with a single inhabitant left alive.

    I think that the Germans themselves expected the Soviets to kill a lot more Germans than they did when the war ended. Sure the Soviets did a lot of raping and pillaging and expulsions in the course of which many died (all traditional aftermaths of war) but they did not do mass killing of German civilians on anything like the scale of what the Germans had done to their citizens. After a few years, the exigencies of the Cold War meant that each side wanted “their” Germany to be a showcase for their respective systems, but immediately after the war the Soviets could certainly have killed more than they actually did.

  309. @Paperback Writer

    Paperback Writer wrote to me:

    Why didn’t you take the bullet for Ashli, Physicist Dave?

    Oh, it is so sweet to see you clutching your pearls, PW!

    But I’ll actually answer your disingenuous question.

    As I have said several times before here, on May 10, 2019, my daughter was brutally assaulted and injured in her dorm room at UCLA by an insane roommate: my daughter was all packed up ready to move out of the room when she was assaulted and injured — broken bone in her finger, bruises all over her body, etc.

    But for more than a year and a half, UCLA has been accusing my daughter of serious crimes, even though my daughter called the police during the assault, the assailant confessed to multiple crimes to the police, my daughter has contemporaneous medical records proving her injuries (the assailant has none, of course), etc.

    Monstrously evil criminals and thugs control California, as well as the District of Columbia.

    So I have spent the last several weeks helping my daughter prepare for the fake “trial” that UCLA held against my daughter last Thursday and today.

    Or is that more info than you actually wanted to hear?

    I could write a book (yeah, I’m thinking about it) about the deep corruption at a personal level that close members of my family have observed just in the last five years.

    You have your head in the sand.

    America is no longer a nice soccer game where every once in a while one team or the other slips a foul by the ref. America now functions the way the USSR did under Brezhnev, not quite the murderous regime it was under Stalin, to be sure (though maybe we will get there), but a deeply corrupt society. (Thanks to my friend John, who knows a lot more about sports than I do, for the soccer analogy.)

    America is dead.

    But you cannot see it.

    • Agree: JMcG, vinteuil
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  310. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    worth mentioning that more Poles are on the Righteous Gentile memorial in Israel than any other nation despite having a much more visibly unassimilated Jewish populace)

    Part of that is because there were a lot of Jews in Poland so there were many opportunities to be righteous.

    But Poland itself was a very mixed country in it attitudes toward Jews. Some people were vicious anti-Semites and needed no encouragement from the Nazis, some people were willing to sell out Jews in return for a sack of sugar, some people would have done more but they (rightly) feared that if they were caught the Germans would string them up and their family for good measure, a few were literally saints. And who was who was not always what you would expect.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  311. @Johann Ricke

    Johann Ricke wrote:

    The principal issue with Germany during WWII wasn’t that it expanded its realm.

    That is factually false: talk to people who lived through the war or read contemporaneous news reports. The “principla issue” was Germany invading and conquering other countries, not the horrific atrocities that now loom so large in our thought. In particular, there was surprisingly little uproar in the Allied countries during the war over the Holocaust.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  312. @Desiderius

    Desiderius wrote:

    The Great War can be understood as analogous to the American Civil War with the Brits entering the former but not the latter…

    There is a book by the German historian Ernst Nolte, titled Der europäische Bürgerkrieg, which translates as “The European Civil War.” I take it that the thesis is that WWI-WWII is really one unity like the Thirty Year War.

    Alas, it seems never to have been translated into English. It would be interesting to see how Nolte handles the great-power issues (both wars were basically upstart Germany vs. world hegemon Britain) as opposed to the ideological conflict among different varieties of collectivism (Bolshevism and social democracy vs Nazism and fascism)/

    It will also be interesting, in a morbid way, to see if the current Wokeists in the West can manage to start a world war against the saner folks in Eastern Europe and Russia and East Asia.

    Personally, I am betting that the Wokeists are too wussy to really fight. But, then again, lots of people made that mistake about the Bolsheviks.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  313. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    Many opportunities, but also a higher risk: in WWII Poland, you lived under direct martial law with specially crafted penal codes from Berlin, unlike in most of occupied Europe. There were a fair amount of people in AK who didn’t like Jews, but liked the Germans even less, and they were already dead men if the authorities caught them. What was one crime more?

    (The de facto parallel society was a reality in most of the country, but not all of it: Jews in Upper Silesia, former West Prussia and the Danzig area tended to behave more like their German co-religionists over the border. But then they would, right?)

    > And who was who was not always what you would expect.

    People have a way of changing under intense pressure: what makes things interesting is whether they turn into better or worse people.

  314. nebulafox says:
    @PhysicistDave

    It’s an interesting theory, but two contradictory points to be made are that the war aims and psychology of the Second and Third Reich were too radically different underneath the common idea of German hegemony in Europe, and the de-facto Russian alignment with Germany throughout the 1920s and again in 1939-1941. Italy also shifted sides.

    That wouldn’t be too different from the musical chairs of the Thirty Year’s War, but if you are talking about one common civil war across a continent…

    >Personally, I am betting that the Wokeists are too wussy to really fight. But, then again, lots of people made that mistake about the Bolsheviks.

    Having had the dubious honor of having seen and interacted with the Antifa types in real life, I’d agree. The only reason they do what they do is because they know they’ll get cover from the mainstream. Not terribly unlike schoolyard bullies who the teacher likes.

    But I don’t know about people making that bet a century ago. Whatever else you can say about the Reds, they were willing to put their money where their mouth was and die, unlike today’s lefties. They were happy to engage in outright terrorism, to the point that one of the tricks of the Tsarist secret police was to launch false flag bombings of their own. Stalin himself was a former bank robber who enjoyed hanging out and getting drunk with petty criminals in Siberia.

  315. nebulafox says:
    @PhysicistDave

    In Martin Van Creveld’s entertaining novel, Hitler in Hell, here is what the dead Hitler has to say about that:

    “Confronted with the facts, the attitudes of our enemies varied. Stalin, of course, could not have cared less. Shortly before his death, he himself started moving in the same direction, executing some Jews and removing others from positions of power. Brought into the secret, Roosevelt, knowing that his countrymen would never agree to go to war on behalf of the Jews, kept his cards close to his chest. Later, both he and Churchill worried that had the full truth become known, public pressure would force them to change their strategy. Not only would their impotence to do anything have been exposed, but the outcome would have been conflict between them and their senior commanders, who did not want their troops to be diverted from their main mission. Caught between these millstones, they preferred to downplay the issue as much as they could until practically the end of the war.”

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
  316. Gabe Ruth says:
    @PhysicistDave

    You’re gonna make it, boomer.

  317. MEH 0910 says:

  318. @PhysicistDave

    I’m very sorry to hear that David.

    Your grandchildren will thank you for the steady sustenance you provide her. They’ll one day see it in themselves.

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