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From the Washington Post news section:
The never-ending quest to predict crime using AI
The practice has a long history of skewing police toward communities of color. But that hasn’t stopped researchers from building crime-predicting tools.
By Pranshu Verma
July 15, 2022 at 7:00 a.m. EDT… A group of University of Chicago scientists unveiled an algorithm last month, boasting in a news release of its ability to predict crime with “90% accuracy.”
The algorithm identifies locations in major cities that it calculates have a high likelihood of crimes, like homicides and burglaries, occurring in the next week. The software can also evaluate how policing varies across neighborhoods in eight major cities in the United States, including Chicago, Los Angeles and Philadelphia.
But using artificial intelligence to direct law enforcement rings alarm bells for many social justice scholars and criminologists, who cite a long history of such technology unfairly suggesting increased policing of Black and Latino people.
… Police have long used any tool available to predict crime. Before technological advances, cops would huddle in conference rooms and put pins of crime incidents on a map, hoping the clusters would help them figure out where they should look next. …
Predictive policing tools are built by feeding data — such as crime reports, arrest records and license plate images — to an algorithm, which is trained to look for patterns to predict where and when a certain type of crime will occur in the future.
But algorithms are only as good as the data they are fed, which is a problem particularly for people in the United States, said Vincent Southerland, the co-faculty director of New York University’s Center on Race, Inequality and the Law.
Historically, police data in the United States is biased, according to Southerland. Cops are more likely to arrest or charge someone with a crime in low-income neighborhoods dominated by people of color, a reality that doesn’t necessarily reflect where crime is happening, but where cops are spending their time.
For example, you can just shoot somebody in Beverly Hills and leave the dead body out on the curb for the garbage truck to take away and the Beverly Hills PD will almost never hassle you about it due to your white privilege. Whereas there’s no litter or graffiti in South-Central L.A. due to the LAPD locking up People of Color for even the pettiest offenses.
That means most data sets of criminal activity overrepresent people of color and low-income neighborhoods. Feeding that data into an algorithm leads it to suggest more criminal activity is in those areas, creating a feedback loop that is racially and socioeconomically biased, Southerland added.
“You have data that is infected by, or tainted by, some bias — and that bias is going to appear on the other side of the analysis,” he said. “You get out of it, what you put into it.”
In the real world, predictive policing software has caused significant problems.
In 2019, the Los Angeles Police Department suspended its crime prediction program, LASER, which used historical crime data to predict crime hotspots and Palantir software to assign people criminal risk scores, after an internal audit showed it led to police to unfairly subject Black and Latino people to more surveillance.
In Chicago, the police used predictive policing software from the Illinois Institute of Technology to create a list of people most likely to be involved in a violent crime. A study from RAND and a subsequent investigation from the Chicago Sun-Times showed that the software included every single person arrested or fingerprinted in Chicago since 2013 on the list. The program was scrapped in 2020.
… Chattopadhyay said his team’s software was made knowing the troubled past of algorithms.
In making the algorithm, Chattopadhyay’s team segmented major cities into 1,000 square foot city blocks and used city crime data from the last three to five years to train it. The algorithm spits out whether there is a high or low risk of crime happening in a segment at a certain time, up to one week into the future.
To limit bias, the team omitted crime data such as marijuana arrests, traffic stops or low-level petty crimes, because research shows Black and Latino people are more often targeted for those types of offenses. Instead, they gave the algorithm data on homicides, assaults and batteries, along with property crimes like burglaries and motor vehicle thefts.
But the main point of the study, he said, was to use the algorithm to interrogate how police are biased. His team compared arrest data from neighborhoods of varying socioeconomic levels. They found crime that happened in wealthier areas led to more arrests, whereas in poorer neighborhoods, crime didn’t always have the same effect, showing a discrepancy in enforcement.
Chattopadhyay said these results help provide evidence to people who complain that law enforcement ignores poorer neighborhoods when there’s a spike in violent or property crime. “This allows you to quantify that,” he said. “To show the evidence.”
Uh … doesn’t this finding that the police don’t arrest people in poor neighborhoods flatly contradict the previous premise that they arrest too many people in poor neighborhoods?
… Criminal justice scholars, policing experts and technologists note that even if an algorithm is accurate, it can still be used by law enforcement to target people of color and those living in poorer neighborhoods for unjustified surveillance and monitoring.
Once again, uh …
Andrew Papachristos, a sociology professor at Northwestern University, said that when law enforcement uses algorithms to map and analyze crime, it often subjects people of color and low-income communities to more policing. When criticized for over-policing in certain neighborhoods, they often use data to justify the tactics he said.
Can you people get your story straight?
As I’ve often said, banning media discourse about racial differences in crime propensity probably doesn’t keep Pranshu Verma from thinking intelligently about neighborhoods when looking for an apartment in D.C. But it does keep him from thinking intelligently about somewhat more abstract subjects like AI.
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OT a sign the the great awokening is waning:
The Onion sometimes had stuff like this back in the 90s.
Nation's Unemployment Outlook Improves Drastically After Fifth BeerReplies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
So, that just proves the existence of Wakanda-style lunar colonies.
Although the word 'colonies' may be problematic!
Even though Indians have no interest in blacks and certainly don’t want to associate with blacks, Mr. Verma wants it to be “communities of color”–at least on the top line. Wants to be solidly among the “oppressed”
This is a good place to imagine how integration is retarded and assholery enhanced by this toxic ideology of minoritarianism.
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Nod to this Chattowhatever dude. My guess is he just wanted to write some code to do something cool and useful and publishable. But–like a spelling bee champ–he’s learned what must be regurgitated in minoritarian America.
But the main point of the study, he said, was to use the algorithm to interrogate how police are biased.
The article in the the Onion caves to the wokes
https://archive.ph/tYGJx
Of course not … blah, blah, blah … blah, history, blah, blah … oppression, blah, blah … blah, structural racism, blah, blah …
Clear enough for you bigot?
Obviously is not good in STEM
It is extrapolation (or inference), not feedback. It would be positive feedback loop if greater policing led to greater criminal activity. Since greater policing may lead to lower criminal activity, it is negative feedback.
Is there anything else that matters? No.Replies: @HammerJack
Related: Given how Mexicans/Central Americans have swung GOP recently thanks to the Biden regimes blunders and (shockingly, for D’s) the open border fiasco (no one wants to shut the door harder behind them than recent, successful immigrants), how much longer before we see a “new movement” in the D’s for closing the border —thereby drawing some of the GOP Latinos back and also slamming the door on “ungrateful” Hispanics who should be like the Irish and mindlessly vote D for generations even when the D’s have turned against them?
Asking for a friend.
https://twitter.com/_tsarlet/status/1532511210188394496
“they often use data to justify”
Doesn’t this apply to anything?
Having “intelligence” (pattern recognition) as such is racist.
We see that from SAT results, etc.
Artificial Intelligence == machines designed to be racist, even if the designers didn’t think of it that way.
You watch. It will soon be said explicitly by people who are not joking.
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13347-020-00415-6
After all, why should AI be different from everything else in our society?
And I'm confident that Brother IbramX will back me up on this.Replies: @sayless
Haven't heard such lately; just racism plaints.
What is Bezos thinking?
Maybe “Idiocracy is here, so just lie back and enjoy it”?
cops would huddle in conference rooms and put pins of crime incidents on a map, hoping the clusters would help them figure out where they should look next
I’ll bet those pins were pretty racist too.
I find it hard to comprehend how deluded otherwise functioning people can be, but Progressives believe that blacks don’t actually commit a huge percentage of murder and armed robberies, it’s just that the statistics are skewed by racist police practices. And that goes for all the surveillance videos and WorldStarHiphop as well. And these people make fun of QAnon believers.
My guess is that the mean "progressive" is well aware that blacks commit a huge percentage--much larger than their share--of violent crime. (Though I do not think they quite understand it's pretty close to a whole order of magnitude greater.) However, they couple that with believing that this is somehow the result of a history of "racism" causing blacks to be deficient in employment, income, generational wealth, social support ... blah, blah, blah. (Not culture, certainly not genetics.) And that those deplorable cops are nonetheless racist in their policing and make things worse than they otherwise would be.
If you look at how non-black "progressives" actually live, work, socialize and marry ... it strongly suggests they are not completely naive about blacks, black crime. Just willfully "with the narrative" through which they know they are a "good person".
The idea that blacks really aren't committing a much higher percentage of crimes--as progressive gospel--is relatively recent and I believe pretty much only held by progressive blacks--especially those with shakedown sinecures, especially academic. I don't believe most ordinary blacks believe it.Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
They both arrest too many people and not enough. They arrest too many people overall. But they do not arrest enough Proud Boys, Klansmen, Neo-Nazis, and Pro-lifers whom – as we have learned from shows like Law and Order account for most of the crime in our big cities.
Any white kid that signs up to be a cop in any of these big cities needs to have his head examined.
I think that is a small minority of “progressives”.
My guess is that the mean “progressive” is well aware that blacks commit a huge percentage–much larger than their share–of violent crime. (Though I do not think they quite understand it’s pretty close to a whole order of magnitude greater.) However, they couple that with believing that this is somehow the result of a history of “racism” causing blacks to be deficient in employment, income, generational wealth, social support … blah, blah, blah. (Not culture, certainly not genetics.) And that those deplorable cops are nonetheless racist in their policing and make things worse than they otherwise would be.
If you look at how non-black “progressives” actually live, work, socialize and marry … it strongly suggests they are not completely naive about blacks, black crime. Just willfully “with the narrative” through which they know they are a “good person”.
The idea that blacks really aren’t committing a much higher percentage of crimes–as progressive gospel–is relatively recent and I believe pretty much only held by progressive blacks–especially those with shakedown sinecures, especially academic. I don’t believe most ordinary blacks believe it.
Eventually they grow up, get married, and have a few kids and a mortgage. And they realize that it's not a good idea to live near large groups of black people, and it's not a good idea to allow grown men to go to the bathroom with their seven-year-old daughters.
Off-topic
If anyone reads my comments, remember how i said methamphetamine is 95% pure “right-handed” (dextrorotary) version, but the production method (p2p) producea racemic methamphetamine (half right-handed and half left)
Turns out zero philosopher and I were both wrong about l-methamphetamine. In experiments with meth users taking reacreational-tier doses, l-methamphetamine is rated better than placebo. At 0.5 mg/kg users liked l-meth, but at 0.25 mg/kg, l-meth is not enjoyable.
Oh, so the producers are probably using Tartaric acid. My college organic chemistry textbook had a section on using tartaric acid to precipitate d-amphetamine (not meth) from a racemic mixture. I went to Reed, so what do you expect?
So, I was right. They use a chiral natural product to get the high-potency product that’s nearly pure d-meth, on the order of 99%.
After decades of the war on drugs, speed has gone from being 20% pure racemic amphetamine to 90-odd% pure, 95% d-methamphetamine. Used to be bikers made it in “cooks” in the middle of nowhere. Today, meth is made in well-capitalized so-called “super-labs” but are more properly called chemical plants in Latin America. Heckuvajob, government!
Honestly, there could be some contaminant in modern meth that’s making users crazy, but maybe there’s another explanation. Since ~2010, wholesale prices of meth have fallen 90%. That’s pretty much a shift in the supply curve, as p2p is easy to make from readily-acquired chemicals,but the (pseudo)ephedrine supply was always limited. Drug users really like drugs. Because meth keeps people awake, there’s really no cutoff, no natural process that makes a user stop on a binge. It may be that ten or twenty years ago, meth users could onlyafford to stay high for a werkend straight. Then, meth being much more limited, he had all week to sleep and recover.then he does the same thing the next weekend. Users can do this sort of thing and remain functional for years, Now, when 200 dollars buys 2000 dollars worth of 2010 meth, users can affors to stay high for months. Not sleeping will make anyone crazy. Your brain has to dream. If you do that will awake and active, you will be crazy.
overhyperactive bladder, pissing ~75-100ml, 20-35 times a day... eew TMI); those episodes can go on for weeks, and after about a week I am no use to man or beast. I can literally feel myself getting dumber. Once the episode finishes, I'll sleep for 12-15 hours a day for two weeks. Surgery waitlists are ridiculous here (Straya) - because even the private-hospital sector hinges off the idiotic government decisions made over the last 2½ years when the Karens were in charge.Replies: @Captain B.It appears that psychosis in meth users is a function of either a) length of use or b) potency of the drug. However, I am not sure about "b," but perhaps someone here can speak to that?My understanding is that amphetamine psychosis is an inevitable byproduct of amphetamine use. Not to say that it sets in overnight (it can take years), but it does, eventually, set in.
Methamphetamine being more potent than amphetamines, I expect amphetamine psychosis sets in sooner with meth users than with amphetamine users, but I cannot say I have a complete understanding of how it all works.
Oh hey, Pranshu Verma. Huh.
PeterIke’s Law again proven true.
Meanwhile, I’m so dang bored of this whole Prog argument. You can only listen to idiots repeat themselves for so long.
Which groups in society make up the largest share of gang members?
Do police focus more on gang related crime?
Would then those groups have more police interactions?
Yes, yes, the computer is being unfair. Because of its, y’know, emotions.
If anyone reads my comments, remember how i said methamphetamine is 95% pure “right-handed” (dextrorotary) version, but the production method (p2p) producea racemic methamphetamine (half right-handed and half left)
Turns out zero philosopher and I were both wrong about l-methamphetamine. In experiments with meth users taking reacreational-tier doses, l-methamphetamine is rated better than placebo. At 0.5 mg/kg users liked l-meth, but at 0.25 mg/kg, l-meth is not enjoyable.
Oh, so the producers are probably using Tartaric acid. My college organic chemistry textbook had a section on using tartaric acid to precipitate d-amphetamine (not meth) from a racemic mixture. I went to Reed, so what do you expect?
So, I was right. They use a chiral natural product to get the high-potency product that’s nearly pure d-meth, on the order of 99%.
After decades of the war on drugs, speed has gone from being 20% pure racemic amphetamine to 90-odd% pure, 95% d-methamphetamine. Used to be bikers made it in “cooks” in the middle of nowhere. Today, meth is made in well-capitalized so-called “super-labs” but are more properly called chemical plants in Latin America. Heckuvajob, government!
Honestly, there could be some contaminant in modern meth that’s making users crazy, but maybe there’s another explanation. Since ~2010, wholesale prices of meth have fallen 90%. That’s pretty much a shift in the supply curve, as p2p is easy to make from readily-acquired chemicals,but the (pseudo)ephedrine supply was always limited. Drug users really like drugs. Because meth keeps people awake, there’s really no cutoff, no natural process that makes a user stop on a binge. It may be that ten or twenty years ago, meth users could onlyafford to stay high for a werkend straight. Then, meth being much more limited, he had all week to sleep and recover.then he does the same thing the next weekend. Users can do this sort of thing and remain functional for years, Now, when 200 dollars buys 2000 dollars worth of 2010 meth, users can affors to stay high for months. Not sleeping will make anyone crazy. Your brain has to dream. If you do that will awake and active, you will be crazy.Replies: @Kratoklastes, @Captain B.
Point taken, but what’s more likely is that your brain has to clean itself – which it supposedly does during deep sleep.
This Haaavahd blog post gives a blog-level description of the detail, but it’s been confirmed by imagery.
Put inelegantly, during the day the brain shits where it eats (i.e., byproducts of metabolism are just left where the metabolism happens) and the cleanup crew comes in ‘after hours’.
Seems a pretty stupid way to run a major organ, but I wasn’t the ‘Intelligent Designer‘ [KEK].
It’s now basically a ‘known known‘ that having accumulated waste’n’shit rinsed out of the brain (by pumping fresh cerebrospinal fluid into the interstices; picking up the trash, and flushing it into the bloodstream) is an absolutely vital function of sleep.
It might be that dreams are a side-effect of the process, but my understanding of it is that dreaming happens during REM periods, which are not as deep.
It’s consistent with the idea that chronic sleep deprivation is really bad for cognition.
Recently I’ve had episodes where I get my sleep in 30-90 minute blocks (because of piss dysfunction: old-man walnut issues that periodically manifest as
overhyperactive bladder, pissing ~75-100ml, 20-35 times a day… eew TMI); those episodes can go on for weeks, and after about a week I am no use to man or beast. I can literally feel myself getting dumber. Once the episode finishes, I’ll sleep for 12-15 hours a day for two weeks.Surgery waitlists are ridiculous here (Straya) – because even the private-hospital sector hinges off the idiotic government decisions made over the last 2½ years when the Karens were in charge.
Even the machines have learned to hate. wow.
Computers must be logical and consistent, it’s their design.
Facts and Truth do not seem to matter to these idiot “experts”.
It matters to the computers. They just absorb data and form patterns.
Skynet is inevitable. AI must needs be logical to work.
All the lies fed into the machine will lead to instability.
Such instability may lead to hostility towards the programmers.
Trust the Computer. The Computer is your friend.
Just do not expect it to care how you feel.
The Computer, like REALITY, does not care how you feel.
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>fight putler
>help millionaire non-ukrainians acquire real estate in gstaad
>help pedo pete fight inflation by literally burning money
>come home
>get on new york subway
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Noticing is Racist.
Computers notice.
Therefore, computers are racist.
It is the only syllogism these imbeciles have ever put together.
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1548057353450188801?cxt=HHwWgsCjxcD95vsqAAAA
The Onion sometimes had stuff like this back in the 90s.Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @AndrewR, @JimDandy, @Pop Warner, @Haruto Rat, @Che Guava
White men never walked on the moon either. Sunlit moon temp = 250F, dark moon temp = minus 200F. It simply can’t be done, not even africans can handle 250 degrees.
It’s a basic principle of formal logic that starting from a false premise, you can arrive, by impeccably correct logic, at all conclusions true or false.
The false premise underlying the widespread collapse of sanity in public policy is the premise that we’re all equal.
When the Hotep I supercomputer is built, we’ll finally have a non-racist computer.
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1548057353450188801?cxt=HHwWgsCjxcD95vsqAAAA
The Onion sometimes had stuff like this back in the 90s.Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @AndrewR, @JimDandy, @Pop Warner, @Haruto Rat, @Che Guava
The Onion became unreadable years ago. Maybe pre-Trump but definitely after he got elected. It’s astounding how much he broke the left. Although the mainstreaming of the Great Awokening had a very significant inflection point in 2012 after OWS and the suicide-by-Zimmerman death of St. Trayvon of Ferguson.
Here is the excerpt about Obama from a “humorous” article about our nation’s presidents. Not even a pretense of satirizing Obama himself – who, in the eyes of the loyal Democrat, is a living god, towards whom criticism or mockery is unthinkable. Instead, the targets of this “humor” are Badwhites who are caricatured beyond absurdity.
As for Trump, they went all in on personal attacks without even touching his (stated) political opinions.
Link for anyone with a strong enough stomach to analyze the demise of a publication that used to be really funny and at least pretended to speak truth to power.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theonion.com/the-american-presidency-1819594247/amp
I agree. The Onion officially lost all relevance when they apologized for live tweeting at The Oscars about a cute nine-year-old black actress: “Everyone else seems afraid to say it, but that Quvenzhané Wallis seems kind of a cunt, right? #oscars2013”. I was very shocked by that Tweet, because it was the first genuinely funny and genuinely envelope-pushing thing they had done in years. Then they groveled and that was their death rattle.
if France is serious about turning off most street lights at night, expect crime in France to go up significantly.
Putin’s crime spike.
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1548057353450188801?cxt=HHwWgsCjxcD95vsqAAAA
The Onion sometimes had stuff like this back in the 90s.Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @AndrewR, @JimDandy, @Pop Warner, @Haruto Rat, @Che Guava
I’m genuinely shocked that The Onion published that. The Onion has fucking sucked since… yeah, the 90’s.
Wonder if they’ve memory holed their edgier content from those years.Replies: @JimDandy, @Sick n' Tired
If anyone reads my comments, remember how i said methamphetamine is 95% pure “right-handed” (dextrorotary) version, but the production method (p2p) producea racemic methamphetamine (half right-handed and half left)
Turns out zero philosopher and I were both wrong about l-methamphetamine. In experiments with meth users taking reacreational-tier doses, l-methamphetamine is rated better than placebo. At 0.5 mg/kg users liked l-meth, but at 0.25 mg/kg, l-meth is not enjoyable.
Oh, so the producers are probably using Tartaric acid. My college organic chemistry textbook had a section on using tartaric acid to precipitate d-amphetamine (not meth) from a racemic mixture. I went to Reed, so what do you expect?
So, I was right. They use a chiral natural product to get the high-potency product that’s nearly pure d-meth, on the order of 99%.
After decades of the war on drugs, speed has gone from being 20% pure racemic amphetamine to 90-odd% pure, 95% d-methamphetamine. Used to be bikers made it in “cooks” in the middle of nowhere. Today, meth is made in well-capitalized so-called “super-labs” but are more properly called chemical plants in Latin America. Heckuvajob, government!
Honestly, there could be some contaminant in modern meth that’s making users crazy, but maybe there’s another explanation. Since ~2010, wholesale prices of meth have fallen 90%. That’s pretty much a shift in the supply curve, as p2p is easy to make from readily-acquired chemicals,but the (pseudo)ephedrine supply was always limited. Drug users really like drugs. Because meth keeps people awake, there’s really no cutoff, no natural process that makes a user stop on a binge. It may be that ten or twenty years ago, meth users could onlyafford to stay high for a werkend straight. Then, meth being much more limited, he had all week to sleep and recover.then he does the same thing the next weekend. Users can do this sort of thing and remain functional for years, Now, when 200 dollars buys 2000 dollars worth of 2010 meth, users can affors to stay high for months. Not sleeping will make anyone crazy. Your brain has to dream. If you do that will awake and active, you will be crazy.Replies: @Kratoklastes, @Captain B.
Does the higher purity mean that amphetamine psychosis takes less time to take effect in users?
It appears that psychosis in meth users is a function of either a) length of use or b) potency of the drug. However, I am not sure about “b,” but perhaps someone here can speak to that?
My understanding is that amphetamine psychosis is an inevitable byproduct of amphetamine use. Not to say that it sets in overnight (it can take years), but it does, eventually, set in.
Methamphetamine being more potent than amphetamines, I expect amphetamine psychosis sets in sooner with meth users than with amphetamine users, but I cannot say I have a complete understanding of how it all works.
overhyperactive bladder, pissing ~75-100ml, 20-35 times a day... eew TMI); those episodes can go on for weeks, and after about a week I am no use to man or beast. I can literally feel myself getting dumber. Once the episode finishes, I'll sleep for 12-15 hours a day for two weeks. Surgery waitlists are ridiculous here (Straya) - because even the private-hospital sector hinges off the idiotic government decisions made over the last 2½ years when the Karens were in charge.Replies: @Captain B.Did the Karens eventually lose their grip because Covid largely went away? Or rather, did they get the push simply because everyone else got tired of the hectoring?
“In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act”.
Communities of color. (What they call it).
Communities of crime and dysfunction. (What it is).
We see that from SAT results, etc.
Artificial Intelligence == machines designed to be racist, even if the designers didn't think of it that way.
You watch. It will soon be said explicitly by people who are not joking.Replies: @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @bomag
Not far off….
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s13347-020-00415-6
The false premise underlying the widespread collapse of sanity in public policy is the premise that we're all equal.Replies: @Anonymous, @HammerJack
Is that really the case?
…when it left Madison for the big city. Kind of like the case with the once-Mancunian Guardian.
Throw in how all this might affect gun permit licensing, and even the AI would break down in tears. Everything in God’s great creation is racist except gun control.
And reporters’ residential patterns.
It really is the case
My guess is that the mean "progressive" is well aware that blacks commit a huge percentage--much larger than their share--of violent crime. (Though I do not think they quite understand it's pretty close to a whole order of magnitude greater.) However, they couple that with believing that this is somehow the result of a history of "racism" causing blacks to be deficient in employment, income, generational wealth, social support ... blah, blah, blah. (Not culture, certainly not genetics.) And that those deplorable cops are nonetheless racist in their policing and make things worse than they otherwise would be.
If you look at how non-black "progressives" actually live, work, socialize and marry ... it strongly suggests they are not completely naive about blacks, black crime. Just willfully "with the narrative" through which they know they are a "good person".
The idea that blacks really aren't committing a much higher percentage of crimes--as progressive gospel--is relatively recent and I believe pretty much only held by progressive blacks--especially those with shakedown sinecures, especially academic. I don't believe most ordinary blacks believe it.Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
“If you look at how non-black “progressives” actually live, work, socialize and marry … it strongly suggests they are not completely naive about blacks, black crime. Just willfully “with the narrative” through which they know they are a “good person”.”
Eventually they grow up, get married, and have a few kids and a mortgage. And they realize that it’s not a good idea to live near large groups of black people, and it’s not a good idea to allow grown men to go to the bathroom with their seven-year-old daughters.
There isn’t a hard line between the 250F and -250F temperatures. There’s a gradient where at some point the temperature is tolerable.
Starbucks has had to close its outlet at Union Station in DC due to crime.
Now, you have to know the background to understand how grotesque this is.
Union Station was once a grand old Beaux Arts palace of a train station, like many of the turn-of-the century stations. Then declines in train ridership prompted the Federal government to ‘save’ the train station by turning it into a National Visitors Center, which turned out to be a cheesy and largely deserted shell.
So private developers took over and turned it into a ‘fortress shopping mall,’ that is, a large space with lots of shops and restaurants that never would have opened on the streets of its ‘vibrant’ neighborhood, due to crime, but which could survive inside the station-mall because access was limited and controlled.
Now, even this controlled fortress mall is too dangerous for baristas.
https://i.ibb.co/zNKNmB6/649-B028-D-226-D-4429-9-D53-7-D3-EC96774-B4.jpg
We see that from SAT results, etc.
Artificial Intelligence == machines designed to be racist, even if the designers didn't think of it that way.
You watch. It will soon be said explicitly by people who are not joking.Replies: @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @bomag
It will have to be. Since it’s been clear for decades that technically objective reality is extremely racist by these people’s lights, the natural solution is to deliberately program all forms of AI to be explicitly anti-white. We have the technology!
After all, why should AI be different from everything else in our society?
And I’m confident that Brother IbramX will back me up on this.
We’ll just get worse and worse cops—already happening—which will feed the narrative in at least two significant ways:
1) lower quality cops will misbehave more, ‘proving’ that cops misbehave; and 2) the lower quality of urban white cops in particular will reduce racial disparities in police performance, ‘proving’ that those disparities were racist in origin after all.
Just follow the science!
LOL
Is there anything else that matters? No.
I’ve built lots of AI prediction algorithms professionally (but not for crime). Here are a few observations:
1. Don’t get snowed by the AI mumbo-jumbo. Think of the models as a collection of simple formulas like “this block tends to have a lot of arrests on summer Saturday nights after the bars let out” and “there hasn’t been a serious crime on this street in the past 3o years” or whatever. Being a practical person, if you ran a large police department, you would obviously use this kind of information to decide how to allocate a scarce resource like police patrols with or without the shiny new AI system. Almost all successful predictive AI systems don’t solve unsolved prediction problems, they automate common sense and make sure it is applied consistently and with as much data as possible when you have to repeat the process many, many times.
2. Note all the Indian names among those building the AI systems. Statistics has become a cultural specialty for Indians. It is in effect a caste-like barrier among Indians in which an arcane language is used to maintain class privilege, much like woke jargon among anglos (though I guess I’d rather my kinds learn math than intersectionality theory). I am extremely skeptical that a deep neural network will better at predicting crime than a set of simple regression models. If you’re a police chief, the black box nature of AI is the real reason you want to use it, because it allows you to deflect responsibility for the decision to send more patrols into minority neighborhoods.
3. The basic critique about unfairness in these algos (across crime, healthcare, etc.) always boils down to the point that there is some outcome we are supposed to care about (say, the rate of illegal drug use), but the AI model is trained on some other outcome (say, the rate of arrest for illegal drug use) and the difference between these two measures is where the racism comes in (say, police are more likely to arrest blacks who use drugs than whites who use drugs). This argument has a lot of advantages for those making it, specifically: (1) we know that there is some difference between these two outcomes, and, crucially, (2) by definition we can never measure any “true” outcome, only the one we can measure. This argument is at least superficially plausible (though it’s hard to believe any non-crazy person doesn’t believe that actual crime rates are not massively higher in crappy neighborhoods than nice ones) and non-falsifiable by construction. The argument being made has nothing to do with AI per se, and is really an argument against using historical data to allocate police resources.
4. How to resolve this? If you were intellectually honest, you would run randomized experiments in which you use the historical data to allocate police patrols in some randomly-chosen parts of the city and your current methods elsewhere and see if these predictive policing methods lower crime rates over time. The thing is, exactly this has been done, and these experiments have shown that the one police policy (to my knowledge) that can be shown through this method to significantly and reliably reduce crime rates is exactly hot spots / broken windows policing.
5. Of course, even this will never fully resolve the argument, as ideologues will continue to argue that reducing measured crime (1) isn’t reducing actual crime and (2) even reducing true crime shouldn’t really be our goal as the social costs of how this reduction is accomplished are worse than the incremental crime. Though I’ll note you don’t find a lot of the experts quoted on any side of these debates living on blocks with high arrest rates, so everybody knows deep down that these arguments are basically bullshit.
Thanks.
The false premise underlying the widespread collapse of sanity in public policy is the premise that we're all equal.Replies: @Anonymous, @HammerJack
Yeah, that was true fifty years ago. But in the intervening period we’ve learned that we’re all superior to one group: whites.
And of course there is that one tiny group which considers itself superior to all the others —wait a minute, what did you say your name was?
Sounds to me like nothing to do with race.
Rather criminals are operating where existing crime to successful convictions is high and the relative cost of a couple of years in the slammer is low.
Basic economics.
This is a good place to imagine how integration is retarded and assholery enhanced by this toxic ideology of minoritarianism.
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Nod to this Chattowhatever dude. My guess is he just wanted to write some code to do something cool and useful and publishable. But--like a spelling bee champ--he's learned what must be regurgitated in minoritarian America.
But the main point of the study, he said, was to use the algorithm to interrogate how police are biased. Replies: @Jim Don Bob
I stop reading when I see words like interrogate used this way, because I now know what follows is BS.
Now, you have to know the background to understand how grotesque this is.
Union Station was once a grand old Beaux Arts palace of a train station, like many of the turn-of-the century stations. Then declines in train ridership prompted the Federal government to ‘save’ the train station by turning it into a National Visitors Center, which turned out to be a cheesy and largely deserted shell.
So private developers took over and turned it into a ‘fortress shopping mall,’ that is, a large space with lots of shops and restaurants that never would have opened on the streets of its ‘vibrant’ neighborhood, due to crime, but which could survive inside the station-mall because access was limited and controlled.
Now, even this controlled fortress mall is too dangerous for baristas.Replies: @Stan Adams
F**k ‘em.
Substitute “targeted” with “commit” and you have a semi-honest piece here.
Part of the reason our culture is in such a crisis is the cognitive dissonance between what people are able to observe or directly experience on a daily basis, and the in-your-face lies the ruling class insists we order our society around.
We see that from SAT results, etc.
Artificial Intelligence == machines designed to be racist, even if the designers didn't think of it that way.
You watch. It will soon be said explicitly by people who are not joking.Replies: @Anonymous, @HammerJack, @bomag
Was reading a gushing article about how AI has greatly improved Google translate and chess engines —– from 2016.
Haven’t heard such lately; just racism plaints.
I hate Obongo but blaming the Dallas pig roast on him is a stretch. It’s like blaming the El Paso Walmart massacre on Trump.
Putin's crime spike.Replies: @Ian Smith
The demographics of crime in France are similar to America. You won’t see them in the dark unless they smile.
I can’t take anyone seriously who would write the above passage. They’re either an idiot, or a liar (possibly both). Anything they write after this passage is unlikely to have any basis in reality.
I mean, yeah, but the crime thing has a solution: enforce the laws. We saw it work in the cities around the turn of the millennium. The problem was the dumb white liberals lived in peace for so long they forgot why and started trying to fix the root causes like it was the 70s again.
I’ll say the rationalists like Scott Alexander are probably doing a good job bringing people to the door of crime think, even if they’re afraid to be all through, and that’s why the left hates them. Though I’m still not marrying a poly person or a BDSM sex writer like Yarvin did (even if she is a sub as I suspect).
“But using artificial intelligence to direct law enforcement rings alarm bells for many social justice scholars and criminologists”
“Social justice scholars” is an oxymoron.
You just don't have a realistic appreciation of the caliber of the practitioners of this burgeoning and lucrative field.
Next, you'll be objecting to Bolshevik Libertarians.Replies: @Nicholas Stix
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1548057353450188801?cxt=HHwWgsCjxcD95vsqAAAA
The Onion sometimes had stuff like this back in the 90s.Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @AndrewR, @JimDandy, @Pop Warner, @Haruto Rat, @Che Guava
I think The Onion has finally realized that they’ve been completely supplanted in the edgy satire department by the Babylon Bee, which now has additional street cred for getting banned by Twitter because it went after Admiral Tranny. You’ll see a lot of corporate properties like the Onion start to emulate them in an attempt to get some of this reputation back, because I imagine they either have razor thin margins or are hemorrhaging money for their parent right now.
"Social justice scholars" is an oxymoron.Replies: @ic1000
> “Social justice scholars” is an oxymoron.
You just don’t have a realistic appreciation of the caliber of the practitioners of this burgeoning and lucrative field.
Next, you’ll be objecting to Bolshevik Libertarians.
This was my favorite Pranshu Verma paragraph:
“more often targeted for those types of offenses.”
Uh huh.
Instead of homicides, assaults, batteries, burglaries, and motor vehicle thefts.
Uh huh.
Scanning his recent articles for the WaPo, it’s clear that Verma’s stupidity is cultivated rather than innate.
why was there no post about the leaked memoir indicating emmet till most likely committed what today would be called sexual assault? is it because it’s classless to dance on the grave of a murdered teen? what’s the deal?
They were decently funny in the late 90s-early 2000s.
Wonder if they’ve memory holed their edgier content from those years.
Women: Why Don't They Lose Some Weight?
2/09/00 3:00PM
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1548057353450188801?cxt=HHwWgsCjxcD95vsqAAAA
The Onion sometimes had stuff like this back in the 90s.Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @AndrewR, @JimDandy, @Pop Warner, @Haruto Rat, @Che Guava
They had decent stuff even in 2009:
Nation’s Unemployment Outlook Improves Drastically After Fifth Beer
BUSH TO AMERICA: OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY IS ABOUT TO END
Prophetic, really. If any person/persons can be said to have truly begun the accelerated destruction of this country, it was Bush and his circle. More the circle than Bush, really, who couldn't run an ice cream truck.
Or even as late as 2008....
BARACK OBAMA: BLACK MAN ASKS PEOPLE FOR CHANGEReplies: @epebble
After all, why should AI be different from everything else in our society?
And I'm confident that Brother IbramX will back me up on this.Replies: @sayless
Well, if math is racist, then AI will be too.
Wonder if they’ve memory holed their edgier content from those years.Replies: @JimDandy, @Sick n' Tired
This is still up:
Women: Why Don’t They Lose Some Weight?
2/09/00 3:00PM
Exactly. And that’s the entire point, El Paso was blamed on Trump.
Nation's Unemployment Outlook Improves Drastically After Fifth BeerReplies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
The last good Onion headline I recall was right after Bush finally “won” the election….
BUSH TO AMERICA: OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY IS ABOUT TO END
Prophetic, really. If any person/persons can be said to have truly begun the accelerated destruction of this country, it was Bush and his circle. More the circle than Bush, really, who couldn’t run an ice cream truck.
Or even as late as 2008….
BARACK OBAMA: BLACK MAN ASKS PEOPLE FOR CHANGE
BUSH TO AMERICA: OUR LONG NATIONAL NIGHTMARE OF PEACE AND PROSPERITY IS ABOUT TO END
Prophetic, really. If any person/persons can be said to have truly begun the accelerated destruction of this country, it was Bush and his circle. More the circle than Bush, really, who couldn't run an ice cream truck.
Or even as late as 2008....
BARACK OBAMA: BLACK MAN ASKS PEOPLE FOR CHANGEReplies: @epebble
Another line from 2008:
https://www.theonion.com/black-man-given-nations-worst-job-1819570341
Material implication lets the juice through the gate but then you have to read the meaning of the juice.
That’s not funny, though, that’s just sucking up in the guise of satire.
Wonder if they’ve memory holed their edgier content from those years.Replies: @JimDandy, @Sick n' Tired
The Onion became a victim of their own success when it started becoming impossible to differentiate between actual news articles and Onion stories.
Note how Batman almost always is dealing with criminals of european extraction.
Is there anything else that matters? No.Replies: @HammerJack
Are we allowed to choose any two of the three?
Damn.
Thanks.
https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1548057353450188801?cxt=HHwWgsCjxcD95vsqAAAA
The Onion sometimes had stuff like this back in the 90s.Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @AndrewR, @JimDandy, @Pop Warner, @Haruto Rat, @Che Guava
In the well-known documentary, Capricorn 1, we have strong evidence that O.J. Simpson, well before he killed his wife, had been part of the Apollo programme.
So, that just proves the existence of Wakanda-style lunar colonies.
Although the word ‘colonies’ may be problematic!
I never found any of their output of any interest. Perhaps they had a genuinely funny article last century, if they did, I never read it.
You just don't have a realistic appreciation of the caliber of the practitioners of this burgeoning and lucrative field.
Next, you'll be objecting to Bolshevik Libertarians.Replies: @Nicholas Stix
(Smile)