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From the Atlanta Journal-Constitution:

Transgender inmate on Missouri’s death row asks for mercy

By SUMMER BALLENTINE and JOHN D. HANNA, Associated Press
Updated Dec 14, 2022

… “It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a women to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said.

Reminds me of the defendant convicted of murdering his parents who begged the judge for mercy because he was an orphan.

 
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  1. The old stereotype regarding trannies wasn’t that they were perverted but that they were unpredictably dangerous. Upending the norms of gender was understood to signal a lack of respect for any norms.

    • Agree: bomag, Cutter
    • Replies: @Chris Mallory
    @J.Ross

    The same goes for "normal" homosexuals.
    I think it was in the book "Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets" The author a former cop in Baltimore, wrote about how gay on gay murders were always particularly brutal, usually involving sexual mutilation. (Note, I might be wrong about the book, it was 30 years ago I read it.)

  2. Missouri! Okay, everybody let loose with your “Show Me State” jokes…

    Duren v Missouri was the case that finally forced women onto juries in all 50 states. It was totally RBG– her last case argued before the Supreme Court before mounting the federal bench herself. Most state legislatures had already changed their laws, but neither Louisiana’s nor Missouri’s could, as it was in their constitutions, not their law codes. One was opt-in, the other opt-out, so they went to SCOTUS separately.

    The two cases overturned Hoyt v Florida (1961), where Mrs Hoyt’s counsel argued that an all-male jury was not one “of her peers”, and lost. Duren was a man who made the same argument, yet won.

    Back to the present, what does a “jury of one’s peers” mean to a tranny?

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Duren v Missouri was the case that finally forced women onto juries in all 50 states."

    Not this woman. I've had at least three summons to jury duty since this case was decided, the latest was last year. My response to each was non-responsive.

    I have a keen interest in the law but zero interest in being manipulated by anyone (except my dog, when he gives me his puppy dog eyes). I understand very well that a jury trial is less concerned with presenting the facts of a case than with presenting the defendant in the light most conducive to acquittal.

    No defense attorney in his or her right mind would select me.

    Besides, I don't think women should sit on juries

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Adam Smith

    , @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar

    I'm at least a little surpised that it was unanimous, including Black, Douglas, and Brennan. The Jewish dude, Frankfurter, had, at least at this later stage of his career, a reputation as a bit of a Conservative.

  3. Sort of surprising that any “it” who kills a woman isn’t automatically reclassified as a male for the purposes of prosecution. Wait, what am I thinking—we value its far more than we value women.

    The question is, when will women themselves wake up to this reality? And the answer is: some time after they throw out their television sets.

    • Replies: @Legba
    @HammerJack

    I believe it's rude to call them 'its' They should only be referred to as 'sporks'

  4. Anon[140] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Non-affirmative action doctors curing cancer, from Tablet:

    [MORE]

    Another incurable cancer, cured. A 13-year-old girl in England afflicted with T-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia was cured this year with a new experimental treatment. Doctors had already tried chemotherapy and even a bone marrow transplant to cure the aggressive cancer—which causes the body’s own immune T-cells to proliferate—with no success.

    The only option left was a nascent, cutting-edge technology known as base editing, which allows scientists to take healthy cells, edit their genetic code, and instruct them to destroy the cancerous cells throughout the body. After the treatment, part of the patient’s immune system was essentially erased, and it had to be rebuilt with another bone marrow transplant.

    But so far, she’s cancer free and doing well. Dr. David Liu, who helped pioneer the technology, said that the advancement could have wide-ranging impacts and that it was one of the “key steps toward taking control of our genomes.”

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Anon

    Michelle Shocked understands the quality of mercy. And she is refreshingly transphobic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru7cNCmR6Mk

    Replies: @J.Ross

  5. • Replies: @Romanian
    @JohnnyWalker123

    I saw that on Twitter. And the morons supporting him. Nary a peep about illegal immigration. Nor about what kind of legal immigration. They just want biomass. The rest will solve itself.

  6. Trump trading cards.

    • Replies: @mc23
    @JohnnyWalker123

    "Do not go gentle into that good night..."

    , @tyrone
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Trump trading cards.
     
    ......... Right, another own goal....new team needed.
    , @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This is goodness.

    Trump's such an egotistical, clueless jackass, that he's taking himself out of the running.

    I can not say the Republicans post-Trump are going to be worthwhile. The tug of the beltway and Jewish money may well overwhelm any positive nationalist impulses of DeSantis and other potential candidates on the right. But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.

    America the nation--coherent people, borders, state--may well simply be over, even while the American nation--a people--still exists out in the hinterlands and in millions of people's hearts. But at least we can move on and grapple with the future. See what possibilities are available, what restoration or separation is possible, what--if anything--can be salvaged? Or how we can and fight for our rights as an occupied people, in a querulous marketplace empire?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  7. As Lizzy Borden might have said, there’s no harm in axing.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  8. OT… or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker’s open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had “access” to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):

    “The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It’s a whole different country from what we thought it was. It’s all fake.”

    “Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination.”

    According to Tucker, the source has “direct knowledge” and is “deeply familiar”with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true…

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK “said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he ‘wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.’”

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom’s uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the ’80s and ’90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true…

    • Agree: petit bourgeois
    • Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper
    @PhysicistDave

    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @Dollar Store Shopper
    @PhysicistDave

    Hopefully you’ve already read Ron Unz’s excellent American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? That’s the best introduction to this issue.

    https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/A1nYNISnPeL._CLa%7C2140%2C2000%7CA1SD39Fcu-L.png%7C0%2C0%2C2140%2C2000%2B0.0%2C0.0%2C2140.0%2C2000.0_AC_UL1500_.png

    , @J.Ross
    @PhysicistDave

    The people who care about this are either dead or they figured it out in the 90s at latest and made their peace with it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

    , @R.G. Camara
    @PhysicistDave

    Oswald did it, ya moronic bigot.

    So if the CIA was involved that means Oswald was CIA.

    So when someone proves that, you'll have something.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @bomag
    @PhysicistDave

    1) Would such a conspiracy generate any documents?

    2) Would such documents be hanging around this long?

    3) Would any depth of malfeasance surprise anyone today?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    , @Pop Warner
    @PhysicistDave

    Tucker's show is a limited hangout. He scratches the truth on the JFK assassination, but by solely fingering the CIA he conveniently buries the Israel connection. Tucker does his job well, as he convinces millions of conservatives that he divulges the deepest truths.

    , @Red Pill Angel
    @PhysicistDave

    A minute after talking about his trusted source for JFK assassination info, Tucker references "our friend, Mike Pompeo." Hint dropped.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    , @AnotherDad
    @PhysicistDave


    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.
     
    LOL. The Deep State isn't going anywhere. Every post, you're off in the weeds now. Usually Ukraine, now the JFK assassination? Deep breath Phys Dave. Deep breath.

    -- Does the Deep State like having an enemy--power, $$$, job security, status, feeling self-important? Have a bunch of them kept going with Russia out of habit, ethnic animus, rainbow ideology? Sure. And sure.

    -- Were elements of the CIA annoyed with Kennedy after the Bay of Pigs fiasco? Sure. Did they assassinate him? I'd say "extremely doubtful", as this is extremely well trod territory. (Umbrella man was just doing Chamberlain/Joe Kennedy/appeasement mocking. E. Howard Hunt was not one of the tramps.)

    So what? We waste billions, trillions of unnecessary "defense" and "intelligence" spending. One President gets knocked off and does 3 years instead of 4 or 8. BFD.

    You're hyperventilating over small potatoes, while the real "conspiracy" that actually matters is right out in the open, right in front of your face:
    During our lifetimes our "elites" have cracked up--destroyed--the American nation through immigration and anti-fertility.

    Who gives a shit about a few extra trillions blown or some President given early retirement when the nation itself is dismantled? Perspective.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

  9. Steve, in case you missed it, pixo has let us know that Claudine Gay is the new president of Harvard University.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-defense-of-james-cameron-2/#comment-5708161

    I honestly had trouble believing it. To call her a scholarly lightweight is the understatement of the year, but, you know, reasons.

    The wreckage is accelerating.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @HammerJack


    The wreckage is accelerating.
     
    https://media.tenor.com/acU28-Gj1W0AAAAd/jack-nicholson-jack.gif

    Replies: @Inverness

    , @CalCooledge
    @HammerJack

    Only a despicable institution would self-sodomize by placing a lightweight bLack affirmative action hire at the top spot. Clear-thinking parents need to stop idolizing these 'elite' colleges, and instead, send their kids to decent state schools, which might be just as unavoidably woke, but at least don't cost as much, and the quality of the (legitimate aspects of) education is just as good.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @HammerJack


    Steve, in case you missed it, pixo has let us know that Claudine Gay is the new president of Harvard University.
     
    So, Harvard = do not hire.

    Good to know, good to know.
  10. OT:

    CLOSING THE GAP
    Harvard University will be led by a person of color for the first time in its nearly 400-year history

    History has been made at Harvard University, as Claudine Gay becomes the first person of color — and second woman — to be named president of the school.

    The university reports that for the last 16 years, Gay, 52, has taught government and African and African American Studies. Since August 2018, she has served as the Edgerley Family Dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Before that, she was Dean of Social Science from 2015 to 2018.

    According to The Harvard Gazette, Gay was elected to the presidency on December 15 by the Harvard Corporation, the University’s principal governing board, with the consent of the University’s Board of Overseers. She’s set to step into the new role on July 1, 2023.

    In a new video, Gay expressed her excitement and gratitude for being elected president.

    “For me, this role is about harnessing the power of ideas and supporting the people who pursue them,” Gay says. “Few things give me more joy, more energy, than talking to a colleague working in a field that’s new to me or hearing the questions that are on the mind of a new generation of students. These conversations let me see the world with fresh eyes.”

    Born to Haitian immigrants, Gay reminisced on the path her parents paved that led her to pursue a career in academics.

    “They came to the U.S. with very little and put themselves through college while raising our family. They believe that education makes everything possible. Being an academic opened up my world, and helped me achieve a dream I could never imagine.”

    Gay obtained her B.A. in economics from Stanford University with honors and distinctions before earning her PhD at Harvard in 1998.

    Her appointment further upholds the university’s commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB). According to the Harvard University website, 15.2% of the admitted class of 2026 identify as African American — an increase from just 12.7% in 2020 — 27.9% identify as Asian American and 12.6% identify as Hispanic or Latino.

    Gay says that as a woman of color and daughter of immigrants, “if my presence in this role affirms someone’s sense of belonging at Harvard, that is a great honor.”

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures, then my appointment will have meaning for me that goes beyond words.”

    Looking back on the accomplishments of the university, from strides in artificial intelligence to climate and sustainability, Gay expressed her commitment to continue carrying on the “powerful legacies” of the leaders who came before her.

    “Our community is a large and diverse team and we are united by a shared commitment to academic excellence and leadership and all the values that ensure it. Embracing those values, especially academic freedom and wide open inquiry, is not only the path to excellence but it’s how we harness our breadth and diversity to build the legacy that our institution deserves.”

    • Replies: @Observator
    @epebble

    The good old boys club has got a Haitian lady in it, for a while, and not in the scullery either, how very trendy. Well, if she follows in Larry Summers' illustrious footsteps and loses Harvard a few billion from its endowment, some Democrat can appoint her Secretary of the US Treasury!

    , @Mike Tre
    @epebble

    In 5 years it will be known as Harvard Community College.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Twinkie
    @epebble


    diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB)
     
    "Belonging," huh? I can play that game while looking at the Harvard student body.
    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @epebble

    I stand by my prediction that in 50 years the Ivy League will be known as the country's most illustrious HBCUs.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Anon
    @epebble


    diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB)
     
    “Dieb” is German for “thief”. The truth comes out.
    , @Romanian
    @epebble

    It's interesting that she is another person in a long line of Blacks not descended from US slaves to achieve high position in your state on the basis of opportunities, narratives and affirmative action set in place for Legacy Blacks.

    Replies: @Renard

  11. “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures…”

    A second look at Hillsdale…

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Reg Cæsar

    I'm all for Harvard enrolling all the Haitians it can find.

    Replies: @Cato

    , @Twinkie
    @Reg Cæsar


    A second look at Hillsdale…
     
    Aside from the service academies (yes, I know, they are on the full Woke program as well, but there is still a decent bit of crypto-rightism among the student bodies), I am definitely looking at Hillsdale, U. of Dallas, Thoms Aquinas College, etc. for my kids.
    , @bomag
    @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, that quote stands out.

    "New possibilities" = burn the academies and get better life outcomes.

  12. History has been made at Harvard University, as Claudine Gay becomes the first person of color — and second woman—

    …and first Gay…

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures…”

    E.g., second look at Hillsdale…

  13. @PhysicistDave
    OT... or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker's open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had "access" to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):


    "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake."
    ...
    "Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination."
     
    According to Tucker, the source has "direct knowledge" and is "deeply familiar"with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true...

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK "said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he 'wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom's uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the '80s and '90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true...

    Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper, @Dollar Store Shopper, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara, @bomag, @Pop Warner, @Red Pill Angel, @AnotherDad

    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Dollar Store Shopper

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:


    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.
     
    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google "Operation Northwoods": quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
    ...
    America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
    ...
    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]
     
    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews -- hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! --called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @shale boi, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @SafeNow, @Muggles, @Adam Smith

  14. @PhysicistDave
    OT... or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker's open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had "access" to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):


    "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake."
    ...
    "Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination."
     
    According to Tucker, the source has "direct knowledge" and is "deeply familiar"with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true...

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK "said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he 'wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom's uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the '80s and '90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true...

    Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper, @Dollar Store Shopper, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara, @bomag, @Pop Warner, @Red Pill Angel, @AnotherDad

    Hopefully you’ve already read Ron Unz’s excellent American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? That’s the best introduction to this issue.

    • Thanks: Nicholas Stix
  15. What will it take for Joe Normie to realize there is literally no way of living with these people.

    During a Congressional hearing on ‘anti-LGBTQ violence,’ a Democratic Representative parroted the same claim as several LGBTQ activists that the terms ‘groomer’ and ‘pedophile’ are discriminatory against sexual preferences and gender identity.

    “You know, this allegation of ‘groomer’ and ‘pedophile,’ it is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of their gender identity, their sexual orientation, their gender identity,” Porter claimed.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-dem-rep-says-term-pedophile-discriminatory

    Fuck the Quality of Mercy.

    • Agree: theMann
    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Inverness
    @Bill Jones

    Considering all of the other things theyre doing with respect to children (not a single one of which is actually good for children), normalizing pedophilia can't be far off.

    If Republicans weren't quite so stupid they could capitalize on all this insanity.

    Replies: @bomag

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Bill Jones


    What will it take for Joe Normie to realize there is literally no way of living with these people.
     
    Boy, did I read that wrong the first time...



    https://youtu.be/_BCWvH2ISyI
  16. @HammerJack
    Steve, in case you missed it, pixo has let us know that Claudine Gay is the new president of Harvard University.


    https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-defense-of-james-cameron-2/#comment-5708161

    I honestly had trouble believing it. To call her a scholarly lightweight is the understatement of the year, but, you know, reasons.

    The wreckage is accelerating.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @CalCooledge, @The Wild Geese Howard

    The wreckage is accelerating.

    • Agree: SunBakedSuburb
    • Replies: @Inverness
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Lots of people here are sure we're just about to turn this whole thing around.

    Replies: @fish, @Jenner Ickham Errican

  17. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @HammerJack


    The wreckage is accelerating.
     
    https://media.tenor.com/acU28-Gj1W0AAAAd/jack-nicholson-jack.gif

    Replies: @Inverness

    Lots of people here are sure we’re just about to turn this whole thing around.

    • Replies: @fish
    @Inverness

    Not until the Great Culling…..

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Inverness

    Turn it around? No. The only way out is through.

  18. @Bill Jones
    What will it take for Joe Normie to realize there is literally no way of living with these people.

    During a Congressional hearing on ‘anti-LGBTQ violence,’ a Democratic Representative parroted the same claim as several LGBTQ activists that the terms ‘groomer’ and ‘pedophile’ are discriminatory against sexual preferences and gender identity.

    “You know, this allegation of ‘groomer’ and ‘pedophile,’ it is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of their gender identity, their sexual orientation, their gender identity,” Porter claimed.
     

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-dem-rep-says-term-pedophile-discriminatory

    Fuck the Quality of Mercy.

    Replies: @Inverness, @Reg Cæsar

    Considering all of the other things theyre doing with respect to children (not a single one of which is actually good for children), normalizing pedophilia can’t be far off.

    If Republicans weren’t quite so stupid they could capitalize on all this insanity.

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @bomag
    @Inverness

    Agree.

    It's starting to look like the usual three step political evolution from the left:

    1. It's not happening.

    2. It's happening, but it is okay; even good.

    3. It's happening; it's bad; but we have enough political and cultural power now that we are going to continue despite the consequences.

  19. From what I’ve heard, violence in women’s prisons is increasing.

    Which prisoners are being violent and their histories is not to be mentioned.

  20. @Dollar Store Shopper
    @PhysicistDave

    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:

    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.

    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google “Operation Northwoods”: quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America’s top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

    America’s top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: “We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba,” and, “casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation.”

    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy’s defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]

    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews — hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! –called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    Dave, in a previous job I worked roughly a decade ago, I was surprised to learn firsthand that all archivists* working at the JFK Library had to hold a TS-SCI clearance. This is the same level of clearance held by U.S. Navy nuclear submarine engineers or special agents working in counterintelligence.

    *It is even listed as a obtainable requirement on USAJobs postings

    , @shale boi
    @PhysicistDave

    "I've seen the documents and the answer is yes, probably." is not the sort of statement that gives me much trust in the source. Obviously a guy with a bias (not dispassionate analysis). Without a smoking gun. And who confuses the meaning of yes and probably.

    Stand by for another circle jerk. Just the sort of thing that the "Mueller is coming" Fox lickspittle will lap up. Despite being repeatedly disappointed with past "secrets".

    , @Anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    The theory I've seen is that the CIA wanted to scare Kennedy, not kill him.

    Oswald's job was to fire, but miss. Shots would be fired, Castro would be blamed, and an angry Kennedy would then authorize the Cuban invasion that everybody wanted.

    Something went wrong. Either Oswald went rogue and decided to kill Kennedy for real, or more interestingly, there was a conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy, of people who wanted Kennedy dead. Just moments before Oswald was due to fire, unknown parties shot Kennedy from another location, leaving Oswald wondering "WTF just happened?"

    Unfortunately, he was killed himself before he could explain himself, so we'll never know for sure.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom

    , @Barnard
    @PhysicistDave

    Based on what we have seen from the CIA, not the propaganda they get put out through Hollywood, incompetence is always a good bet. My guess is they were trying to manipulate and use Oswald as some sort of source of information on the Soviets/Cuba and it completely spun out of control on them. The files make them look so bad had they been released there would have been no choice but to shut the agency down.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

    , @SafeNow
    @PhysicistDave


    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.
    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.
    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.
     
    Almost all commenters here DO realize it. But that said, I think the magnitude of realization is correlated with age. I, being ancient, experienced firsthand an America that was extremely decent, pleasant, sane, and demographically homogeneous. By contrast, a younger commenter did not personally observe such a stark deviation; rather, he observed a lesser unraveling.
    , @Muggles
    @PhysicistDave


    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:
     
    There are a lot more possibilities than that.

    Take for instance what I think are the major elements of the assassination plot. More than merely a CIA plot.

    This bolstered by admitted actors in the Mafia, their attorneys (Santo Trafficante Jr.'s) and among others, well sourced Mafia admissions documented in "I Hear You Paint Houses" about Frank Sheeran, about whom the film The Irishman was made.

    The playerss: Major elements of the Chicago, NY, Florida and New Orleans mafia. They all wanted Bobby Kennedy out as Atty General and killing JFK was required. Hoffa also waned this and was a major Mafia associate before they killed him.

    LBJ via the CIA provided the Miami based former Bay of Pigs gunmen to Carlos Marcello, New Orleans/Dallas mafia capo who worked under Chicago boss Sam Giancana.

    The CIA ran Oswald and knew him from former Russia/Mexico City surveillance. He was also active in the Fair Play for Cuba committee based in New Orleans. Mafia also ran him as a patsy to Dallas.

    He was killed after the shooting (where the CIA Cubans also added shots) and Dallas mob affiliated "nightclub owner" Jack Ruby took Oswald out, as ordered by the Marcello controlled Dallas mob boss. Ruby probably knew of his cancer diagnosis and was ordered to do the Ruby hit. Dallas PD was under local mob influence.

    It is suspected that LBJ got the CIA to furnish the Cuban exile gunmen. His fingerprints were well hidden. Both Teddy Kennedy and RFK believed LBJ was a major player. As does RFK Jr. And the late Jackie Kennedy.

    So a number of fingerprints on this action. The CIA details are still under secrecy wraps. Tucker's source may have seen details of this.

    The Lone Nut theory makes no sense. And a lot of mafia corroboration subsequently about many details. When under medical treatment and sedation, Marcello made statements to witnesses about the Kennedy hit, which he later denied.

    I think this is the best, most corroborated account. Done by a team well experienced in assassinations (CIA/Mafia).

    Replies: @Kylie

    , @Adam Smith
    @PhysicistDave

    Good evening, PhysicistDave,

    You wrote:


    "Today, even NBCNews — hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! –called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination."
     
    Why would there be anything of value in these so called records? Do you believe the CIA would simply release anything incriminating of themselves or those in power? I'd imagine anything that incriminated the agency, it's agents or their puppeteers would have been destroyed years ago. (If it was documented at all.) I'd also imagine that any "records" that they would release would be complete fabrications in service of any narrative they'd like to weave.

    I have no doubt that the people of the "Deep State" are indeed capable of such atrocities, but why would the people of the "Deep State" hand over documents incriminating themselves (or their paymasters) of a crime of this magnitude? Are the creatures masquerading as "government" really that certain that they are above the law?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

  21. @epebble
    OT:

    CLOSING THE GAP
    Harvard University will be led by a person of color for the first time in its nearly 400-year history

    History has been made at Harvard University, as Claudine Gay becomes the first person of color — and second woman — to be named president of the school.

    The university reports that for the last 16 years, Gay, 52, has taught government and African and African American Studies. Since August 2018, she has served as the Edgerley Family Dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Before that, she was Dean of Social Science from 2015 to 2018.

    According to The Harvard Gazette, Gay was elected to the presidency on December 15 by the Harvard Corporation, the University’s principal governing board, with the consent of the University’s Board of Overseers. She’s set to step into the new role on July 1, 2023.

    In a new video, Gay expressed her excitement and gratitude for being elected president.

    “For me, this role is about harnessing the power of ideas and supporting the people who pursue them,” Gay says. “Few things give me more joy, more energy, than talking to a colleague working in a field that’s new to me or hearing the questions that are on the mind of a new generation of students. These conversations let me see the world with fresh eyes.”

    Born to Haitian immigrants, Gay reminisced on the path her parents paved that led her to pursue a career in academics.

    “They came to the U.S. with very little and put themselves through college while raising our family. They believe that education makes everything possible. Being an academic opened up my world, and helped me achieve a dream I could never imagine.”

    Gay obtained her B.A. in economics from Stanford University with honors and distinctions before earning her PhD at Harvard in 1998.

    Her appointment further upholds the university’s commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB). According to the Harvard University website, 15.2% of the admitted class of 2026 identify as African American — an increase from just 12.7% in 2020 — 27.9% identify as Asian American and 12.6% identify as Hispanic or Latino.

    Gay says that as a woman of color and daughter of immigrants, “if my presence in this role affirms someone’s sense of belonging at Harvard, that is a great honor.”

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures, then my appointment will have meaning for me that goes beyond words.”

    Looking back on the accomplishments of the university, from strides in artificial intelligence to climate and sustainability, Gay expressed her commitment to continue carrying on the “powerful legacies” of the leaders who came before her.

    “Our community is a large and diverse team and we are united by a shared commitment to academic excellence and leadership and all the values that ensure it. Embracing those values, especially academic freedom and wide open inquiry, is not only the path to excellence but it’s how we harness our breadth and diversity to build the legacy that our institution deserves.”

    Replies: @Observator, @Mike Tre, @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anon, @Romanian

    The good old boys club has got a Haitian lady in it, for a while, and not in the scullery either, how very trendy. Well, if she follows in Larry Summers’ illustrious footsteps and loses Harvard a few billion from its endowment, some Democrat can appoint her Secretary of the US Treasury!

    • LOL: Hibernian
  22. @epebble
    OT:

    CLOSING THE GAP
    Harvard University will be led by a person of color for the first time in its nearly 400-year history

    History has been made at Harvard University, as Claudine Gay becomes the first person of color — and second woman — to be named president of the school.

    The university reports that for the last 16 years, Gay, 52, has taught government and African and African American Studies. Since August 2018, she has served as the Edgerley Family Dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Before that, she was Dean of Social Science from 2015 to 2018.

    According to The Harvard Gazette, Gay was elected to the presidency on December 15 by the Harvard Corporation, the University’s principal governing board, with the consent of the University’s Board of Overseers. She’s set to step into the new role on July 1, 2023.

    In a new video, Gay expressed her excitement and gratitude for being elected president.

    “For me, this role is about harnessing the power of ideas and supporting the people who pursue them,” Gay says. “Few things give me more joy, more energy, than talking to a colleague working in a field that’s new to me or hearing the questions that are on the mind of a new generation of students. These conversations let me see the world with fresh eyes.”

    Born to Haitian immigrants, Gay reminisced on the path her parents paved that led her to pursue a career in academics.

    “They came to the U.S. with very little and put themselves through college while raising our family. They believe that education makes everything possible. Being an academic opened up my world, and helped me achieve a dream I could never imagine.”

    Gay obtained her B.A. in economics from Stanford University with honors and distinctions before earning her PhD at Harvard in 1998.

    Her appointment further upholds the university’s commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB). According to the Harvard University website, 15.2% of the admitted class of 2026 identify as African American — an increase from just 12.7% in 2020 — 27.9% identify as Asian American and 12.6% identify as Hispanic or Latino.

    Gay says that as a woman of color and daughter of immigrants, “if my presence in this role affirms someone’s sense of belonging at Harvard, that is a great honor.”

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures, then my appointment will have meaning for me that goes beyond words.”

    Looking back on the accomplishments of the university, from strides in artificial intelligence to climate and sustainability, Gay expressed her commitment to continue carrying on the “powerful legacies” of the leaders who came before her.

    “Our community is a large and diverse team and we are united by a shared commitment to academic excellence and leadership and all the values that ensure it. Embracing those values, especially academic freedom and wide open inquiry, is not only the path to excellence but it’s how we harness our breadth and diversity to build the legacy that our institution deserves.”

    Replies: @Observator, @Mike Tre, @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anon, @Romanian

    In 5 years it will be known as Harvard Community College.

    • LOL: Kylie
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Mike Tre

    It should, but it won't. Maybe in another 40 years.

  23. @Reg Cæsar

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures...”
     
    A second look at Hillsdale...

    Replies: @International Jew, @Twinkie, @bomag

    I’m all for Harvard enrolling all the Haitians it can find.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Cato
    @International Jew


    I’m all for Harvard enrolling all the Haitians it can find.
     
    There are plenty to be had, pouring across the southern border.
  24. Reminds me of the defendant convicted of murdering his parents who begged the judge for mercy because he was an orphan.

    Perhaps World War T is best thought of as a corollary to Caldwell’s Observation ” We move swiftly and imperceptibly from a world in which Affirmative Action cannot be ended because its beneficiaries are too weak to one where it cannot be ended because its beneficiaries are too strong.” So ‘We move swiftly and imperceptibly from a world in which Trans people cannot be deadnamed lest they commit suicide to one where they cannot be deadnamed lest they commit homicide’.

    • Thanks: Poirot
  25. @PhysicistDave
    OT... or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker's open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had "access" to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):


    "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake."
    ...
    "Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination."
     
    According to Tucker, the source has "direct knowledge" and is "deeply familiar"with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true...

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK "said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he 'wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom's uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the '80s and '90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true...

    Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper, @Dollar Store Shopper, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara, @bomag, @Pop Warner, @Red Pill Angel, @AnotherDad

    The people who care about this are either dead or they figured it out in the 90s at latest and made their peace with it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross


    The people who care about this are either dead or they figured it out in the 90s at latest and made their peace with it.
     
    The importance of the question is that whatever they did then, they can do now-- and more. There is nothing new under the sun, or the radar.
    , @PhysicistDave
    @J.Ross

    J.Ross wrote to me:


    The people who care about this are either dead or they figured it out in the 90s at latest and made their peace with it.
     
    If the Deep State killed Kennedy, that is conclusive proof that we have created a truly dangerous monster in the Deep State, a monster that needs to be slain to save our country.
  26. @epebble
    OT:

    CLOSING THE GAP
    Harvard University will be led by a person of color for the first time in its nearly 400-year history

    History has been made at Harvard University, as Claudine Gay becomes the first person of color — and second woman — to be named president of the school.

    The university reports that for the last 16 years, Gay, 52, has taught government and African and African American Studies. Since August 2018, she has served as the Edgerley Family Dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Before that, she was Dean of Social Science from 2015 to 2018.

    According to The Harvard Gazette, Gay was elected to the presidency on December 15 by the Harvard Corporation, the University’s principal governing board, with the consent of the University’s Board of Overseers. She’s set to step into the new role on July 1, 2023.

    In a new video, Gay expressed her excitement and gratitude for being elected president.

    “For me, this role is about harnessing the power of ideas and supporting the people who pursue them,” Gay says. “Few things give me more joy, more energy, than talking to a colleague working in a field that’s new to me or hearing the questions that are on the mind of a new generation of students. These conversations let me see the world with fresh eyes.”

    Born to Haitian immigrants, Gay reminisced on the path her parents paved that led her to pursue a career in academics.

    “They came to the U.S. with very little and put themselves through college while raising our family. They believe that education makes everything possible. Being an academic opened up my world, and helped me achieve a dream I could never imagine.”

    Gay obtained her B.A. in economics from Stanford University with honors and distinctions before earning her PhD at Harvard in 1998.

    Her appointment further upholds the university’s commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB). According to the Harvard University website, 15.2% of the admitted class of 2026 identify as African American — an increase from just 12.7% in 2020 — 27.9% identify as Asian American and 12.6% identify as Hispanic or Latino.

    Gay says that as a woman of color and daughter of immigrants, “if my presence in this role affirms someone’s sense of belonging at Harvard, that is a great honor.”

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures, then my appointment will have meaning for me that goes beyond words.”

    Looking back on the accomplishments of the university, from strides in artificial intelligence to climate and sustainability, Gay expressed her commitment to continue carrying on the “powerful legacies” of the leaders who came before her.

    “Our community is a large and diverse team and we are united by a shared commitment to academic excellence and leadership and all the values that ensure it. Embracing those values, especially academic freedom and wide open inquiry, is not only the path to excellence but it’s how we harness our breadth and diversity to build the legacy that our institution deserves.”

    Replies: @Observator, @Mike Tre, @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anon, @Romanian

    diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB)

    “Belonging,” huh? I can play that game while looking at the Harvard student body.

  27. Anonymous[170] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    @Dollar Store Shopper

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:


    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.
     
    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google "Operation Northwoods": quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
    ...
    America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
    ...
    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]
     
    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews -- hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! --called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @shale boi, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @SafeNow, @Muggles, @Adam Smith

    Dave, in a previous job I worked roughly a decade ago, I was surprised to learn firsthand that all archivists* working at the JFK Library had to hold a TS-SCI clearance. This is the same level of clearance held by U.S. Navy nuclear submarine engineers or special agents working in counterintelligence.

    *It is even listed as a obtainable requirement on USAJobs postings

  28. The trans thing is a reason to not delay the execution, if anything. Otherwise, the article says that the jury did not learn that the offender was born with fetal alcohol syndrome and was abused through multiple foster care families. If that is true at all, I have to wonder how the defense missed telling this to the jury. Are defense attorneys really that checked out? I will concede that being born with fetal alcohol syndrome is a reason to consider reducing a sentence from death to life in prison if there is a reason to believe the mental impacts of FAS were significant in the individual’s case.

    • Disagree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  29. @Reg Cæsar

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures...”
     
    A second look at Hillsdale...

    Replies: @International Jew, @Twinkie, @bomag

    A second look at Hillsdale…

    Aside from the service academies (yes, I know, they are on the full Woke program as well, but there is still a decent bit of crypto-rightism among the student bodies), I am definitely looking at Hillsdale, U. of Dallas, Thoms Aquinas College, etc. for my kids.

  30. Unrelated but amusing.

  31. @PhysicistDave
    @Dollar Store Shopper

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:


    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.
     
    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google "Operation Northwoods": quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
    ...
    America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
    ...
    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]
     
    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews -- hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! --called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @shale boi, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @SafeNow, @Muggles, @Adam Smith

    “I’ve seen the documents and the answer is yes, probably.” is not the sort of statement that gives me much trust in the source. Obviously a guy with a bias (not dispassionate analysis). Without a smoking gun. And who confuses the meaning of yes and probably.

    Stand by for another circle jerk. Just the sort of thing that the “Mueller is coming” Fox lickspittle will lap up. Despite being repeatedly disappointed with past “secrets”.

  32. @HammerJack
    Steve, in case you missed it, pixo has let us know that Claudine Gay is the new president of Harvard University.


    https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-defense-of-james-cameron-2/#comment-5708161

    I honestly had trouble believing it. To call her a scholarly lightweight is the understatement of the year, but, you know, reasons.

    The wreckage is accelerating.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @CalCooledge, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Only a despicable institution would self-sodomize by placing a lightweight bLack affirmative action hire at the top spot. Clear-thinking parents need to stop idolizing these ‘elite’ colleges, and instead, send their kids to decent state schools, which might be just as unavoidably woke, but at least don’t cost as much, and the quality of the (legitimate aspects of) education is just as good.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  33. @PhysicistDave
    OT... or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker's open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had "access" to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):


    "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake."
    ...
    "Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination."
     
    According to Tucker, the source has "direct knowledge" and is "deeply familiar"with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true...

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK "said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he 'wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom's uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the '80s and '90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true...

    Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper, @Dollar Store Shopper, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara, @bomag, @Pop Warner, @Red Pill Angel, @AnotherDad

    Oswald did it, ya moronic bigot.

    So if the CIA was involved that means Oswald was CIA.

    So when someone proves that, you’ll have something.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @R.G. Camara

    R.G. Camara wrote to me:


    Oswald did it, ya moronic bigot.
     
    Well, I think you are probably right, though there are informed people who disagree (about Oswald, that is, but, hey, maybe I also am a "moronic bigot"!).

    RG also wrote:

    So if the CIA was involved that means Oswald was CIA.
     
    There have been reports in the mainstream media that the CIA may have had some sort of contact with Oswald. The documents still being withheld may relate to that -- probably they do.

    Merry Christmas, old pal!

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

  34. “Reminds me of the defendant convicted of murdering his parents who begged the judge for mercy because he was an orphan.”

    Yup. Exactly what popped into my head as I was beginning to read this post.
    Then again, I still had this fresh in my head as Jonathan Haidt brought that up as an example of “chutzpah” in his talk at the recent Stanford “Academic Freedom Initiative”:

  35. It’ll take a long time until WWT conquers the Show-Me.

  36. the defendant convicted of murdering his parents who begged the judge for mercy because he was an orphan

    This is usually given as the textbook example of “chutzpah” – a Yiddish word that has made the jump to English. Chutzpah means brazenness, insolence, impudence, arrogance, or audacity (English has a lot of words that are approximately the same thing while Yiddish has only one word but that word really hits the bullseye). If you think about it, chutzpah really sums up the whole Woke phenomenon.

    In Yiddishworld (and even today in Israel) if someone tries this kind of chutzpahdik gambit on you, the response is, “what do you think I am, a freier?” A freier is a sucker – someone over whose eyes you can pull the wool. A freier is not a good thing to be. Israelis are always on guard (perhaps too much on guard) not to come out second in any interaction (even letting someone in traffic into your lane) lest they be seen as freiers.

    But something in our society allows this kind of chutzpah to be not only licensed but entitled to the utmost respect. If the judge just laughed in the face of this “lady’s” lawyers for making such an argument, HE and not “her” lawyers would be in trouble.

    Part of it (but only part) is that we were once a high trust society and so assumed the good intentions of members of the bar arguing before the court, “bank officers” who called you to “help” you with your online banking and so on. Sorry, time to say goodbye to high trust society, America. It was nice while it lasted. Don’t be freiers.

    The other part is that we have elevated certain groups (but not others) to holy status. If, for example, the murderer’s lawyers said that a white male murderer should be spared execution because he was a devout Christian, no one would countenance this argument for a second.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3uTxvPRg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D

    , @Old Prude
    @Jack D

    If the judge just laughed in the face of this “lady’s” lawyers for making such an argument, HE and not “her” lawyers would be in trouble.

    Absolutely! When some crook says he's a woman, the cops, the prosecutors, the jailers, and the public should just scoff "Too bad for you. You will be prosecuted and jailed as a man." It is absolute madness society plays into this scam.

    That having been said, you can bet your boots I will be a woman if I ever get pinched (by the cops).

    , @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Jack D

    "In Yiddishworld (and even today in Israel) if someone tries this kind of chutzpahdik gambit on you, the response is, “what do you think I am, a freier?” A freier is a sucker – someone over whose eyes you can pull the wool."

    So in other words, like an American government, right?

    , @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    If you think about it, chutzpah really sums up the whole Woke phenomenon.
     
    Not really. Chutzpah skews male. Woke is feminine.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  37. Passive voice journalism at its finest;

    “McLaughlin was convicted of killing Beverly Guenther….Guenther was raped and stabbed to death.”

    Maybe he didn’t do it! Events happened!

  38. @HammerJack
    Steve, in case you missed it, pixo has let us know that Claudine Gay is the new president of Harvard University.


    https://www.unz.com/isteve/in-defense-of-james-cameron-2/#comment-5708161

    I honestly had trouble believing it. To call her a scholarly lightweight is the understatement of the year, but, you know, reasons.

    The wreckage is accelerating.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @CalCooledge, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Steve, in case you missed it, pixo has let us know that Claudine Gay is the new president of Harvard University.

    So, Harvard = do not hire.

    Good to know, good to know.

    • Agree: Renard
  39. @epebble
    OT:

    CLOSING THE GAP
    Harvard University will be led by a person of color for the first time in its nearly 400-year history

    History has been made at Harvard University, as Claudine Gay becomes the first person of color — and second woman — to be named president of the school.

    The university reports that for the last 16 years, Gay, 52, has taught government and African and African American Studies. Since August 2018, she has served as the Edgerley Family Dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Before that, she was Dean of Social Science from 2015 to 2018.

    According to The Harvard Gazette, Gay was elected to the presidency on December 15 by the Harvard Corporation, the University’s principal governing board, with the consent of the University’s Board of Overseers. She’s set to step into the new role on July 1, 2023.

    In a new video, Gay expressed her excitement and gratitude for being elected president.

    “For me, this role is about harnessing the power of ideas and supporting the people who pursue them,” Gay says. “Few things give me more joy, more energy, than talking to a colleague working in a field that’s new to me or hearing the questions that are on the mind of a new generation of students. These conversations let me see the world with fresh eyes.”

    Born to Haitian immigrants, Gay reminisced on the path her parents paved that led her to pursue a career in academics.

    “They came to the U.S. with very little and put themselves through college while raising our family. They believe that education makes everything possible. Being an academic opened up my world, and helped me achieve a dream I could never imagine.”

    Gay obtained her B.A. in economics from Stanford University with honors and distinctions before earning her PhD at Harvard in 1998.

    Her appointment further upholds the university’s commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB). According to the Harvard University website, 15.2% of the admitted class of 2026 identify as African American — an increase from just 12.7% in 2020 — 27.9% identify as Asian American and 12.6% identify as Hispanic or Latino.

    Gay says that as a woman of color and daughter of immigrants, “if my presence in this role affirms someone’s sense of belonging at Harvard, that is a great honor.”

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures, then my appointment will have meaning for me that goes beyond words.”

    Looking back on the accomplishments of the university, from strides in artificial intelligence to climate and sustainability, Gay expressed her commitment to continue carrying on the “powerful legacies” of the leaders who came before her.

    “Our community is a large and diverse team and we are united by a shared commitment to academic excellence and leadership and all the values that ensure it. Embracing those values, especially academic freedom and wide open inquiry, is not only the path to excellence but it’s how we harness our breadth and diversity to build the legacy that our institution deserves.”

    Replies: @Observator, @Mike Tre, @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anon, @Romanian

    I stand by my prediction that in 50 years the Ivy League will be known as the country’s most illustrious HBCUs.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    That's one school of thought, another says University of Beijing East

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  40. Anonymous[317] • Disclaimer says:
    @PhysicistDave
    @Dollar Store Shopper

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:


    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.
     
    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google "Operation Northwoods": quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
    ...
    America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
    ...
    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]
     
    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews -- hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! --called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @shale boi, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @SafeNow, @Muggles, @Adam Smith

    The theory I’ve seen is that the CIA wanted to scare Kennedy, not kill him.

    Oswald’s job was to fire, but miss. Shots would be fired, Castro would be blamed, and an angry Kennedy would then authorize the Cuban invasion that everybody wanted.

    Something went wrong. Either Oswald went rogue and decided to kill Kennedy for real, or more interestingly, there was a conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy, of people who wanted Kennedy dead. Just moments before Oswald was due to fire, unknown parties shot Kennedy from another location, leaving Oswald wondering “WTF just happened?”

    Unfortunately, he was killed himself before he could explain himself, so we’ll never know for sure.

    • Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom
    @Anonymous

    WRT a plausible “scare him” narrative, I might believe that they (CIA) could not imagine Oswald succeeding. IIRC, many conspiracy theories begin with the implausibility Oswald firing 3 times and hitting his moving target.

    A little more difficult is the motive. If scaring Kennedy was supposed to start a Cuban invasion, why didn't they continue on after the assassination.

    OTOH, The assassination of Archduke Ferdnand shows that reality is often less plausible than fiction.

  41. @Jack D

    the defendant convicted of murdering his parents who begged the judge for mercy because he was an orphan
     
    This is usually given as the textbook example of "chutzpah" - a Yiddish word that has made the jump to English. Chutzpah means brazenness, insolence, impudence, arrogance, or audacity (English has a lot of words that are approximately the same thing while Yiddish has only one word but that word really hits the bullseye). If you think about it, chutzpah really sums up the whole Woke phenomenon.

    In Yiddishworld (and even today in Israel) if someone tries this kind of chutzpahdik gambit on you, the response is, "what do you think I am, a freier?" A freier is a sucker - someone over whose eyes you can pull the wool. A freier is not a good thing to be. Israelis are always on guard (perhaps too much on guard) not to come out second in any interaction (even letting someone in traffic into your lane) lest they be seen as freiers.

    But something in our society allows this kind of chutzpah to be not only licensed but entitled to the utmost respect. If the judge just laughed in the face of this "lady's" lawyers for making such an argument, HE and not "her" lawyers would be in trouble.

    Part of it (but only part) is that we were once a high trust society and so assumed the good intentions of members of the bar arguing before the court, "bank officers" who called you to "help" you with your online banking and so on. Sorry, time to say goodbye to high trust society, America. It was nice while it lasted. Don't be freiers.

    The other part is that we have elevated certain groups (but not others) to holy status. If, for example, the murderer's lawyers said that a white male murderer should be spared execution because he was a devout Christian, no one would countenance this argument for a second.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Old Prude, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @AnotherDad

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross

    Huh? Until Tel Aviv's opens (has it yet?), Haifa has the only subway in Israel. It's an underground funicular, so those pics could be up to a radian off.



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Carmelit06-10-1959.jpg/1920px-Carmelit06-10-1959.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D, @XBardon Kaldlan

    , @Jack D
    @J.Ross

    The title (and the refrain) Lo Freyerim (Not Suckers) is meant to be ironic.

    We [the secular Israelis] do military service and pay the all the taxes, [while the Ultra Orthodox free ride ] but oh no, we're definitely not suckers.

  42. Strained to the breaking point.

  43. @PhysicistDave
    @Dollar Store Shopper

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:


    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.
     
    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google "Operation Northwoods": quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
    ...
    America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
    ...
    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]
     
    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews -- hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! --called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @shale boi, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @SafeNow, @Muggles, @Adam Smith

    Based on what we have seen from the CIA, not the propaganda they get put out through Hollywood, incompetence is always a good bet. My guess is they were trying to manipulate and use Oswald as some sort of source of information on the Soviets/Cuba and it completely spun out of control on them. The files make them look so bad had they been released there would have been no choice but to shut the agency down.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Barnard


    The files make them look so bad had they been released there would have been no choice but to shut the agency down.
     
    That actually makes sense.

    Hanlon’s Razor: Never Attribute to Malice That Which is Adequately Explained by Stupidity

    Usually it finishes with "incompetence", and is often wrongly attributed to Napoleon, though it could have been someone around him. (Another Frenchman originated that "communist at twenty" adage.)


    If the CIA did do it, and deliberately, you'd think they'd have gone through the records and erased every trace of evidence.

    , @PhysicistDave
    @Barnard

    Barnard wrote to me:


    Based on what we have seen from the CIA, not the propaganda they get put out through Hollywood, incompetence is always a good bet. My guess is they were trying to manipulate and use Oswald as some sort of source of information on the Soviets/Cuba and it completely spun out of control on them.
     
    Yeah, that is basically my Option B, and if I were forced to bet, that is how I would bet, too.

    But the American people should be told the truth, whatever it is.
  44. @epebble
    OT:

    CLOSING THE GAP
    Harvard University will be led by a person of color for the first time in its nearly 400-year history

    History has been made at Harvard University, as Claudine Gay becomes the first person of color — and second woman — to be named president of the school.

    The university reports that for the last 16 years, Gay, 52, has taught government and African and African American Studies. Since August 2018, she has served as the Edgerley Family Dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Before that, she was Dean of Social Science from 2015 to 2018.

    According to The Harvard Gazette, Gay was elected to the presidency on December 15 by the Harvard Corporation, the University’s principal governing board, with the consent of the University’s Board of Overseers. She’s set to step into the new role on July 1, 2023.

    In a new video, Gay expressed her excitement and gratitude for being elected president.

    “For me, this role is about harnessing the power of ideas and supporting the people who pursue them,” Gay says. “Few things give me more joy, more energy, than talking to a colleague working in a field that’s new to me or hearing the questions that are on the mind of a new generation of students. These conversations let me see the world with fresh eyes.”

    Born to Haitian immigrants, Gay reminisced on the path her parents paved that led her to pursue a career in academics.

    “They came to the U.S. with very little and put themselves through college while raising our family. They believe that education makes everything possible. Being an academic opened up my world, and helped me achieve a dream I could never imagine.”

    Gay obtained her B.A. in economics from Stanford University with honors and distinctions before earning her PhD at Harvard in 1998.

    Her appointment further upholds the university’s commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB). According to the Harvard University website, 15.2% of the admitted class of 2026 identify as African American — an increase from just 12.7% in 2020 — 27.9% identify as Asian American and 12.6% identify as Hispanic or Latino.

    Gay says that as a woman of color and daughter of immigrants, “if my presence in this role affirms someone’s sense of belonging at Harvard, that is a great honor.”

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures, then my appointment will have meaning for me that goes beyond words.”

    Looking back on the accomplishments of the university, from strides in artificial intelligence to climate and sustainability, Gay expressed her commitment to continue carrying on the “powerful legacies” of the leaders who came before her.

    “Our community is a large and diverse team and we are united by a shared commitment to academic excellence and leadership and all the values that ensure it. Embracing those values, especially academic freedom and wide open inquiry, is not only the path to excellence but it’s how we harness our breadth and diversity to build the legacy that our institution deserves.”

    Replies: @Observator, @Mike Tre, @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anon, @Romanian

    diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB)

    “Dieb” is German for “thief”. The truth comes out.

    • Thanks: bomag
  45. @HammerJack
    Sort of surprising that any "it" who kills a woman isn't automatically reclassified as a male for the purposes of prosecution. Wait, what am I thinking—we value its far more than we value women.

    The question is, when will women themselves wake up to this reality? And the answer is: some time after they throw out their television sets.

    Replies: @Legba

    I believe it’s rude to call them ‘its’ They should only be referred to as ‘sporks’

  46. @PhysicistDave
    @Dollar Store Shopper

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:


    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.
     
    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google "Operation Northwoods": quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
    ...
    America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
    ...
    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]
     
    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews -- hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! --called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @shale boi, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @SafeNow, @Muggles, @Adam Smith

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.
    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.
    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Almost all commenters here DO realize it. But that said, I think the magnitude of realization is correlated with age. I, being ancient, experienced firsthand an America that was extremely decent, pleasant, sane, and demographically homogeneous. By contrast, a younger commenter did not personally observe such a stark deviation; rather, he observed a lesser unraveling.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  47. @PhysicistDave
    OT... or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker's open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had "access" to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):


    "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake."
    ...
    "Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination."
     
    According to Tucker, the source has "direct knowledge" and is "deeply familiar"with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true...

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK "said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he 'wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom's uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the '80s and '90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true...

    Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper, @Dollar Store Shopper, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara, @bomag, @Pop Warner, @Red Pill Angel, @AnotherDad

    1) Would such a conspiracy generate any documents?

    2) Would such documents be hanging around this long?

    3) Would any depth of malfeasance surprise anyone today?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @bomag

    bomag asked me:


    1) Would such a conspiracy generate any documents?
     
    Would Richard Nixon record himself engaged in crude and inappropriate behavior?

    But he did.

    People like this are often very arrogant and very foolish. And perhaps the documents were created by someone who did not carry out the crimes. Or perhaps the documents fill in some puzzle pieces that clarify the overall picture, but whoever created the document did not realize that at the time.

    bomag also asked:


    2) Would such documents be hanging around this long?
     
    Tucker's source claims so. Perhaps the source is a liar or a con artist; perhaps not. Bureaucrats do tend to preserve documents.

    bomag also asked:


    3) Would any depth of malfeasance surprise anyone today?
     
    The Deep State murdering the President of the United States?

    Yeah, I think that would still surprise people!

  48. @Inverness
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Lots of people here are sure we're just about to turn this whole thing around.

    Replies: @fish, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Not until the Great Culling…..

  49. @Reg Cæsar

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures...”
     
    A second look at Hillsdale...

    Replies: @International Jew, @Twinkie, @bomag

    Yeah, that quote stands out.

    “New possibilities” = burn the academies and get better life outcomes.

  50. @JohnnyWalker123
    Trump trading cards.

    https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1603425713440395269

    Replies: @mc23, @tyrone, @AnotherDad

    “Do not go gentle into that good night…”

  51. @Inverness
    @Bill Jones

    Considering all of the other things theyre doing with respect to children (not a single one of which is actually good for children), normalizing pedophilia can't be far off.

    If Republicans weren't quite so stupid they could capitalize on all this insanity.

    Replies: @bomag

    Agree.

    It’s starting to look like the usual three step political evolution from the left:

    1. It’s not happening.

    2. It’s happening, but it is okay; even good.

    3. It’s happening; it’s bad; but we have enough political and cultural power now that we are going to continue despite the consequences.

  52. @Jack D

    the defendant convicted of murdering his parents who begged the judge for mercy because he was an orphan
     
    This is usually given as the textbook example of "chutzpah" - a Yiddish word that has made the jump to English. Chutzpah means brazenness, insolence, impudence, arrogance, or audacity (English has a lot of words that are approximately the same thing while Yiddish has only one word but that word really hits the bullseye). If you think about it, chutzpah really sums up the whole Woke phenomenon.

    In Yiddishworld (and even today in Israel) if someone tries this kind of chutzpahdik gambit on you, the response is, "what do you think I am, a freier?" A freier is a sucker - someone over whose eyes you can pull the wool. A freier is not a good thing to be. Israelis are always on guard (perhaps too much on guard) not to come out second in any interaction (even letting someone in traffic into your lane) lest they be seen as freiers.

    But something in our society allows this kind of chutzpah to be not only licensed but entitled to the utmost respect. If the judge just laughed in the face of this "lady's" lawyers for making such an argument, HE and not "her" lawyers would be in trouble.

    Part of it (but only part) is that we were once a high trust society and so assumed the good intentions of members of the bar arguing before the court, "bank officers" who called you to "help" you with your online banking and so on. Sorry, time to say goodbye to high trust society, America. It was nice while it lasted. Don't be freiers.

    The other part is that we have elevated certain groups (but not others) to holy status. If, for example, the murderer's lawyers said that a white male murderer should be spared execution because he was a devout Christian, no one would countenance this argument for a second.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Old Prude, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @AnotherDad

    If the judge just laughed in the face of this “lady’s” lawyers for making such an argument, HE and not “her” lawyers would be in trouble.

    Absolutely! When some crook says he’s a woman, the cops, the prosecutors, the jailers, and the public should just scoff “Too bad for you. You will be prosecuted and jailed as a man.” It is absolute madness society plays into this scam.

    That having been said, you can bet your boots I will be a woman if I ever get pinched (by the cops).

  53. @Bill Jones
    What will it take for Joe Normie to realize there is literally no way of living with these people.

    During a Congressional hearing on ‘anti-LGBTQ violence,’ a Democratic Representative parroted the same claim as several LGBTQ activists that the terms ‘groomer’ and ‘pedophile’ are discriminatory against sexual preferences and gender identity.

    “You know, this allegation of ‘groomer’ and ‘pedophile,’ it is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of their gender identity, their sexual orientation, their gender identity,” Porter claimed.
     

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/watch-dem-rep-says-term-pedophile-discriminatory

    Fuck the Quality of Mercy.

    Replies: @Inverness, @Reg Cæsar

    What will it take for Joe Normie to realize there is literally no way of living with these people.

    Boy, did I read that wrong the first time…

    [MORE]

  54. … “It is extremely unusual for a woman to commit a capital offense, such as a brutal murder, and even more unusual for a women to, as was the case with McLaughlin, rape and murder a woman,” Pojmann said

    Indeed. “She” must be a uniquely horrible “woman.” All the more reason to execute “her.”

    McLaughlin’s lawyers claim outright that McLaughlin is mentally ill. Between “her” and the tranny who shot up a gay bar in Colorado Springs last month, this can’t be the kind of publicity the transgender crowd was looking for.

  55. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3uTxvPRg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D

    Huh? Until Tel Aviv’s opens (has it yet?), Haifa has the only subway in Israel. It’s an underground funicular, so those pics could be up to a radian off.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    No only is it not finished, they haven't even started yet. Construction is not scheduled to begin until 2025 and it could be later because everything in Israel is contentious.

    I could be wrong but I gather that the 1st ten seconds of the video shows the subject falling asleep on his couch and the implication is that the rest of the song takes place in a dream. Anything is possible in a dream, such as swimming fully clothed underwater for long periods and then emerging from a manhole. Or riding an unbuilt subway.

    Another clue is the first line of the lyrics - he sings בחלומות נפליג - In our dreams we will fly...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Haifa "subway" isn't a true subway (although it does run underground in a tunnel) - the whole system is only a mile long and the main purpose is to take people up and down a big hill - a difference in elevation of almost 1,000 feet. It's tiny (two cars going up and two cars going down on the same cable) and doesn't get that much ridership because it basically goes nowhere in relation to the modern city (it was built in the 1950s), not that it could take that many people to begin with.

    A lot of cities (with hills) used to have these funicular railroads - e.g. Angel's Flight in LA. (Although the Carmelit is much bigger and more modern in relation to Angel's Flight) . But they seem to have fallen out of favor because I think modern buses and cars can take pretty steep grades (traditional rail vehicles cannot). Or you can build escalators that do about the same thing. The Carmelit I think came at the end of the age of funiculars as mass transit.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @XBardon Kaldlan
    @Reg Cæsar

    No angry black men involved in self-conversation?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  56. @Barnard
    @PhysicistDave

    Based on what we have seen from the CIA, not the propaganda they get put out through Hollywood, incompetence is always a good bet. My guess is they were trying to manipulate and use Oswald as some sort of source of information on the Soviets/Cuba and it completely spun out of control on them. The files make them look so bad had they been released there would have been no choice but to shut the agency down.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

    The files make them look so bad had they been released there would have been no choice but to shut the agency down.

    That actually makes sense.

    Hanlon’s Razor: Never Attribute to Malice That Which is Adequately Explained by Stupidity

    Usually it finishes with “incompetence”, and is often wrongly attributed to Napoleon, though it could have been someone around him. (Another Frenchman originated that “communist at twenty” adage.)

    If the CIA did do it, and deliberately, you’d think they’d have gone through the records and erased every trace of evidence.

    • Agree: Barnard, Redneck farmer
  57. @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross

    Huh? Until Tel Aviv's opens (has it yet?), Haifa has the only subway in Israel. It's an underground funicular, so those pics could be up to a radian off.



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Carmelit06-10-1959.jpg/1920px-Carmelit06-10-1959.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D, @XBardon Kaldlan

    No only is it not finished, they haven’t even started yet. Construction is not scheduled to begin until 2025 and it could be later because everything in Israel is contentious.

    I could be wrong but I gather that the 1st ten seconds of the video shows the subject falling asleep on his couch and the implication is that the rest of the song takes place in a dream. Anything is possible in a dream, such as swimming fully clothed underwater for long periods and then emerging from a manhole. Or riding an unbuilt subway.

    Another clue is the first line of the lyrics – he sings בחלומות נפליג – In our dreams we will fly…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    No only is it not finished, they haven’t even started yet.
     
    Wow. That's worse than the Berlin airport, which finally opened after decades of incompetence. If it were Jerusalem, they'd have the Roman excuse of continually bumping not archeological sites. But Tel Aviv is a baby.

    Speaking of Berlin, a giant aquarium there just burst wide open, spilling fresh sushi everywhere. Apes took over their part of a zoo in Sweden. And, of course, there was the roof of Notre-Dame.

    Is Europe crumbling?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Nicholas Stix, @Muggles

  58. @Jack D

    the defendant convicted of murdering his parents who begged the judge for mercy because he was an orphan
     
    This is usually given as the textbook example of "chutzpah" - a Yiddish word that has made the jump to English. Chutzpah means brazenness, insolence, impudence, arrogance, or audacity (English has a lot of words that are approximately the same thing while Yiddish has only one word but that word really hits the bullseye). If you think about it, chutzpah really sums up the whole Woke phenomenon.

    In Yiddishworld (and even today in Israel) if someone tries this kind of chutzpahdik gambit on you, the response is, "what do you think I am, a freier?" A freier is a sucker - someone over whose eyes you can pull the wool. A freier is not a good thing to be. Israelis are always on guard (perhaps too much on guard) not to come out second in any interaction (even letting someone in traffic into your lane) lest they be seen as freiers.

    But something in our society allows this kind of chutzpah to be not only licensed but entitled to the utmost respect. If the judge just laughed in the face of this "lady's" lawyers for making such an argument, HE and not "her" lawyers would be in trouble.

    Part of it (but only part) is that we were once a high trust society and so assumed the good intentions of members of the bar arguing before the court, "bank officers" who called you to "help" you with your online banking and so on. Sorry, time to say goodbye to high trust society, America. It was nice while it lasted. Don't be freiers.

    The other part is that we have elevated certain groups (but not others) to holy status. If, for example, the murderer's lawyers said that a white male murderer should be spared execution because he was a devout Christian, no one would countenance this argument for a second.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Old Prude, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @AnotherDad

    “In Yiddishworld (and even today in Israel) if someone tries this kind of chutzpahdik gambit on you, the response is, “what do you think I am, a freier?” A freier is a sucker – someone over whose eyes you can pull the wool.”

    So in other words, like an American government, right?

  59. @J.Ross
    @Jack D

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHM3uTxvPRg

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Jack D

    The title (and the refrain) Lo Freyerim (Not Suckers) is meant to be ironic.

    We [the secular Israelis] do military service and pay the all the taxes, [while the Ultra Orthodox free ride ] but oh no, we’re definitely not suckers.

  60. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    No only is it not finished, they haven't even started yet. Construction is not scheduled to begin until 2025 and it could be later because everything in Israel is contentious.

    I could be wrong but I gather that the 1st ten seconds of the video shows the subject falling asleep on his couch and the implication is that the rest of the song takes place in a dream. Anything is possible in a dream, such as swimming fully clothed underwater for long periods and then emerging from a manhole. Or riding an unbuilt subway.

    Another clue is the first line of the lyrics - he sings בחלומות נפליג - In our dreams we will fly...

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    No only is it not finished, they haven’t even started yet.

    Wow. That’s worse than the Berlin airport, which finally opened after decades of incompetence. If it were Jerusalem, they’d have the Roman excuse of continually bumping not archeological sites. But Tel Aviv is a baby.

    Speaking of Berlin, a giant aquarium there just burst wide open, spilling fresh sushi everywhere. Apes took over their part of a zoo in Sweden. And, of course, there was the roof of Notre-Dame.

    Is Europe crumbling?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Just to be clear, while they haven't started on the (high platform) subway, they are also building light rail (trolley type) lines, up to half of which will run underground and some of those are further advanced (they are already running test trains on one of the lines). They have been building since 2015 and the current opening is scheduled for Feb. 2023 (but it wouldn't surprise me if it was delayed).

    To call these "trolleys" is a bit of a stretch because they are stretched. Each car is segmented into 5 caterpillar like segments and they can run them in pairs so you are not that far from a small subway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nQu8TGOyAQ

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Reg Cæsar

    Hey, Reg, I love that song! Carly Simon, right?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Muggles
    @Reg Cæsar


    Speaking of Berlin, a giant aquarium there just burst wide open, spilling fresh sushi
     
    As yet explained cause of collapse.

    My hunch is "animal rights" nut jobs wanting to liberate the fish.

    Let's hope they find drowned human rats glued to broken glass at the bottom.

    Or maybe just famed German engineering done by newly imported Turks...

    Replies: @epebble

  61. @PhysicistDave
    OT... or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker's open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had "access" to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):


    "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake."
    ...
    "Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination."
     
    According to Tucker, the source has "direct knowledge" and is "deeply familiar"with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true...

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK "said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he 'wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom's uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the '80s and '90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true...

    Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper, @Dollar Store Shopper, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara, @bomag, @Pop Warner, @Red Pill Angel, @AnotherDad

    Tucker’s show is a limited hangout. He scratches the truth on the JFK assassination, but by solely fingering the CIA he conveniently buries the Israel connection. Tucker does his job well, as he convinces millions of conservatives that he divulges the deepest truths.

  62. @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross

    Huh? Until Tel Aviv's opens (has it yet?), Haifa has the only subway in Israel. It's an underground funicular, so those pics could be up to a radian off.



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Carmelit06-10-1959.jpg/1920px-Carmelit06-10-1959.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D, @XBardon Kaldlan

    The Haifa “subway” isn’t a true subway (although it does run underground in a tunnel) – the whole system is only a mile long and the main purpose is to take people up and down a big hill – a difference in elevation of almost 1,000 feet. It’s tiny (two cars going up and two cars going down on the same cable) and doesn’t get that much ridership because it basically goes nowhere in relation to the modern city (it was built in the 1950s), not that it could take that many people to begin with.

    A lot of cities (with hills) used to have these funicular railroads – e.g. Angel’s Flight in LA. (Although the Carmelit is much bigger and more modern in relation to Angel’s Flight) . But they seem to have fallen out of favor because I think modern buses and cars can take pretty steep grades (traditional rail vehicles cannot). Or you can build escalators that do about the same thing. The Carmelit I think came at the end of the age of funiculars as mass transit.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D

    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.

    You were in Lisbon-- did you ride the famous #28 tram through the Alfama district? I made it a point to. It's one of many parallels Lisbon shares with San Francisco. Difference is, the streets are far from orthogonal in the Alfama.


    https://cdn.travel-in-portugal.com/sites/default/files/lisbon-tram-jam.jpg


    And, of course, there is this famous ditty from Naples:





    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TbcHMGKougA


    She turned 85 Monday.

    Replies: @Renard, @Ralph L, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Rohirrimborn

  63. For obvious anatomical reasons, women can’t commit rape in the pure and literal sense of the word, i.e., violent/forcible penile vaginal/anal penetration, unlike “transgendered” males who still have their penises. Does the person once named Bruce Jenner still have his penis? If so, he’s still more male than female.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @SMK


    Does the person once named Bruce Jenner still have his penis? If so, he’s still more male than female.
     
    I've got news for you. When he cuts the dick off he'll still be a man.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  64. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/AlecStapp/status/1603423456795557893

    Replies: @Romanian

    I saw that on Twitter. And the morons supporting him. Nary a peep about illegal immigration. Nor about what kind of legal immigration. They just want biomass. The rest will solve itself.

  65. @epebble
    OT:

    CLOSING THE GAP
    Harvard University will be led by a person of color for the first time in its nearly 400-year history

    History has been made at Harvard University, as Claudine Gay becomes the first person of color — and second woman — to be named president of the school.

    The university reports that for the last 16 years, Gay, 52, has taught government and African and African American Studies. Since August 2018, she has served as the Edgerley Family Dean of Harvard’s Faculty of Arts and Sciences. Before that, she was Dean of Social Science from 2015 to 2018.

    According to The Harvard Gazette, Gay was elected to the presidency on December 15 by the Harvard Corporation, the University’s principal governing board, with the consent of the University’s Board of Overseers. She’s set to step into the new role on July 1, 2023.

    In a new video, Gay expressed her excitement and gratitude for being elected president.

    “For me, this role is about harnessing the power of ideas and supporting the people who pursue them,” Gay says. “Few things give me more joy, more energy, than talking to a colleague working in a field that’s new to me or hearing the questions that are on the mind of a new generation of students. These conversations let me see the world with fresh eyes.”

    Born to Haitian immigrants, Gay reminisced on the path her parents paved that led her to pursue a career in academics.

    “They came to the U.S. with very little and put themselves through college while raising our family. They believe that education makes everything possible. Being an academic opened up my world, and helped me achieve a dream I could never imagine.”

    Gay obtained her B.A. in economics from Stanford University with honors and distinctions before earning her PhD at Harvard in 1998.

    Her appointment further upholds the university’s commitment to diversity, equity, inclusion and belonging (DEIB). According to the Harvard University website, 15.2% of the admitted class of 2026 identify as African American — an increase from just 12.7% in 2020 — 27.9% identify as Asian American and 12.6% identify as Hispanic or Latino.

    Gay says that as a woman of color and daughter of immigrants, “if my presence in this role affirms someone’s sense of belonging at Harvard, that is a great honor.”

    “And for those who are beyond our gates, if this prompts them to look anew at Harvard, to consider new possibilities for themselves and their futures, then my appointment will have meaning for me that goes beyond words.”

    Looking back on the accomplishments of the university, from strides in artificial intelligence to climate and sustainability, Gay expressed her commitment to continue carrying on the “powerful legacies” of the leaders who came before her.

    “Our community is a large and diverse team and we are united by a shared commitment to academic excellence and leadership and all the values that ensure it. Embracing those values, especially academic freedom and wide open inquiry, is not only the path to excellence but it’s how we harness our breadth and diversity to build the legacy that our institution deserves.”

    Replies: @Observator, @Mike Tre, @Twinkie, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Anon, @Romanian

    It’s interesting that she is another person in a long line of Blacks not descended from US slaves to achieve high position in your state on the basis of opportunities, narratives and affirmative action set in place for Legacy Blacks.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @Romanian

    https://i.ibb.co/yXVZk5t/Capture-2022-12-16-15-38-06-2.png


    The longer you racists try to put this off, the higher the price goes. Just FYI.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @J.Ross

  66. The title of this article sounds like a title to a movie.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Bernard

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_quality_of_mercy_(Shakespeare_quote)

    from The Merchant of Venice. Arguably the most famous female transgender speech in Shakespeare.

    , @Ralph L
    @Bernard

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_quality_of_mercy_(Shakespeare_quote)

    from The Merchant of Venice. Arguably the most famous female transgender speech in Shakespeare. In his time, it would have been a boy playing a girl playing a man.

  67. @Reg Cæsar
    Missouri! Okay, everybody let loose with your "Show Me State" jokes...


    Duren v Missouri was the case that finally forced women onto juries in all 50 states. It was totally RBG-- her last case argued before the Supreme Court before mounting the federal bench herself. Most state legislatures had already changed their laws, but neither Louisiana's nor Missouri's could, as it was in their constitutions, not their law codes. One was opt-in, the other opt-out, so they went to SCOTUS separately.

    The two cases overturned Hoyt v Florida (1961), where Mrs Hoyt's counsel argued that an all-male jury was not one "of her peers", and lost. Duren was a man who made the same argument, yet won.

    Back to the present, what does a "jury of one's peers" mean to a tranny?

    Replies: @Kylie, @Hibernian

    “Duren v Missouri was the case that finally forced women onto juries in all 50 states.”

    Not this woman. I’ve had at least three summons to jury duty since this case was decided, the latest was last year. My response to each was non-responsive.

    I have a keen interest in the law but zero interest in being manipulated by anyone (except my dog, when he gives me his puppy dog eyes). I understand very well that a jury trial is less concerned with presenting the facts of a case than with presenting the defendant in the light most conducive to acquittal.

    No defense attorney in his or her right mind would select me.

    Besides, I don’t think women should sit on juries

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Kylie


    Besides, I don’t think women should sit on juries
     
    Few women did. Missouri had an automatic opt-out clause for women. Something like five out of six invoked it-- at least the jury pool was 5/6 male. Louisiana used the opt-in system-- women who wanted to serve had to go down to the courthouse and enrol on a list of volunteers.

    That was the deal in Florida in 1960. Hillsborough County (Tampa), where the Hoyt trial took place, had a pool that was 1% female. Over in Pinellas County (St Pete), there was a vigorous campaign to encourage women to sign up. That was successful-- if you consider 4% a success.

    Massachusetts had a quirky variant of opt-out. Women could recuse themselves without question if the case looked to be especially grisly. Whether anyone did for the Boston Strangler trial might be worth looking into.

    , @Adam Smith
    @Kylie

    Good evening, Kylie,


    I’ve had at least three summons to jury duty since this case was decided, the latest was last year. My response to each was non-responsive.
     
    Let it be known that you believe in jury nullification and you will never be summonsed again.

  68. @J.Ross
    @PhysicistDave

    The people who care about this are either dead or they figured it out in the 90s at latest and made their peace with it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

    The people who care about this are either dead or they figured it out in the 90s at latest and made their peace with it.

    The importance of the question is that whatever they did then, they can do now– and more. There is nothing new under the sun, or the radar.

  69. @Romanian
    @epebble

    It's interesting that she is another person in a long line of Blacks not descended from US slaves to achieve high position in your state on the basis of opportunities, narratives and affirmative action set in place for Legacy Blacks.

    Replies: @Renard

    The longer you racists try to put this off, the higher the price goes. Just FYI.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Renard

    The price will keep increasing, no matter how much Danegeld is paid. Serious Q: is anyone anywhere keeping a tab? Going back to LBJ's "Great Society" if not before, it's surely in the trillions by now.

    You know full well that no matter how much is paid out to the current crop of squealing brats, the crop which follows will squeal too. "Where's ours?"

    It's up to those of us who can do math to do the math, I'm afraid.

    , @J.Ross
    @Renard

    There was a really good 4chan thread last night about Portland, Oregon: what it used to be like, how it became what it is now. Two major components were affluent white permissiveness and the importation of people already prone to destruction and dependence, ie, black welfare single mothers from other cities who had heard about dem pro grams. Also, massively, white drug addicts and homeless people. Even when Portland was good it always had a massive white drug problem and white areas you avoided. However, it survived that for decades; it prospered with that. It could not survive people who misunderstood De Tocqueville to be giving financial advice, when he wrote about voting yourself rich. Funnily enough, they had to bring the blacks in from abroad: Portland, an island of more Apartheid than Apartheid, blanned blacks until 1926, and sits far enough away from traditional black population centers that no brother was turning up because he missed a bus stop.
    If this creep popped up in Atlanta or Tuscaloosa, he'd still be wrong, but in a former slave state he would at least be making a kind of sense. California not only was never a slave-holding community, it not only historically had no blacks, it hardly had any whites or Hispanics either until nearly the end of slavery. This is like demanding reparations from Japan.

  70. @JohnnyWalker123
    Trump trading cards.

    https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1603425713440395269

    Replies: @mc23, @tyrone, @AnotherDad

    Trump trading cards.

    ……… Right, another own goal….new team needed.

  71. @Kylie
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Duren v Missouri was the case that finally forced women onto juries in all 50 states."

    Not this woman. I've had at least three summons to jury duty since this case was decided, the latest was last year. My response to each was non-responsive.

    I have a keen interest in the law but zero interest in being manipulated by anyone (except my dog, when he gives me his puppy dog eyes). I understand very well that a jury trial is less concerned with presenting the facts of a case than with presenting the defendant in the light most conducive to acquittal.

    No defense attorney in his or her right mind would select me.

    Besides, I don't think women should sit on juries

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Adam Smith

    Besides, I don’t think women should sit on juries

    Few women did. Missouri had an automatic opt-out clause for women. Something like five out of six invoked it– at least the jury pool was 5/6 male. Louisiana used the opt-in system– women who wanted to serve had to go down to the courthouse and enrol on a list of volunteers.

    That was the deal in Florida in 1960. Hillsborough County (Tampa), where the Hoyt trial took place, had a pool that was 1% female. Over in Pinellas County (St Pete), there was a vigorous campaign to encourage women to sign up. That was successful– if you consider 4% a success.

    Massachusetts had a quirky variant of opt-out. Women could recuse themselves without question if the case looked to be especially grisly. Whether anyone did for the Boston Strangler trial might be worth looking into.

  72. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    No only is it not finished, they haven’t even started yet.
     
    Wow. That's worse than the Berlin airport, which finally opened after decades of incompetence. If it were Jerusalem, they'd have the Roman excuse of continually bumping not archeological sites. But Tel Aviv is a baby.

    Speaking of Berlin, a giant aquarium there just burst wide open, spilling fresh sushi everywhere. Apes took over their part of a zoo in Sweden. And, of course, there was the roof of Notre-Dame.

    Is Europe crumbling?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Nicholas Stix, @Muggles

    Just to be clear, while they haven’t started on the (high platform) subway, they are also building light rail (trolley type) lines, up to half of which will run underground and some of those are further advanced (they are already running test trains on one of the lines). They have been building since 2015 and the current opening is scheduled for Feb. 2023 (but it wouldn’t surprise me if it was delayed).

    To call these “trolleys” is a bit of a stretch because they are stretched. Each car is segmented into 5 caterpillar like segments and they can run them in pairs so you are not that far from a small subway.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    Looks like Seattle Light Rail, which does not meet any reasonable definition of light rail, with heavy cars and no true street running, only a section that runs in a median strip, guarded by high curbs, in a wide avenue.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  73. In UK bookshops, the Woke War Party has full spectrum dominance.

    On a big display as you enter

    on another display front of shop

    and finally, on the counter for that last-minute stocking filler – a snip at £9.99

  74. “Few women did [sit on juries]. Missouri had an automatic opt-out clause for women.

    Yes, lifelong Missourian here. Prior to the 1979 ruling, I just ignored the jury summons I got. After 1979, I did the same. 😀

    But of course, many women (i. e., nice white ladies), not content to rule the roost at home, just had to pipe up in the jury room, too. I mean, use their voice.

    By the way, OT, but what is your favorite courtroom movie?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Kylie


    By the way, OT, but what is your favorite courtroom movie?
     
    I hate them. So, by default, it's Miracle on 34th Street!

    Replies: @Renard

  75. OT:

    Steve, when are you going to admit Biden just lies and stop covering for his “my son died in Iraq” lie? The guy lies about everything, and his dementia isn’t helping:

    https://nypost.com/2022/12/16/biden-claims-his-uncle-frank-won-purple-heart-but-story-doesnt-add-up/?utm_campaign=iphone_nyp&utm_source=pasteboard_app

  76. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Haifa "subway" isn't a true subway (although it does run underground in a tunnel) - the whole system is only a mile long and the main purpose is to take people up and down a big hill - a difference in elevation of almost 1,000 feet. It's tiny (two cars going up and two cars going down on the same cable) and doesn't get that much ridership because it basically goes nowhere in relation to the modern city (it was built in the 1950s), not that it could take that many people to begin with.

    A lot of cities (with hills) used to have these funicular railroads - e.g. Angel's Flight in LA. (Although the Carmelit is much bigger and more modern in relation to Angel's Flight) . But they seem to have fallen out of favor because I think modern buses and cars can take pretty steep grades (traditional rail vehicles cannot). Or you can build escalators that do about the same thing. The Carmelit I think came at the end of the age of funiculars as mass transit.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.

    You were in Lisbon– did you ride the famous #28 tram through the Alfama district? I made it a point to. It’s one of many parallels Lisbon shares with San Francisco. Difference is, the streets are far from orthogonal in the Alfama.

    And, of course, there is this famous ditty from Naples:

    [MORE]

    She turned 85 Monday.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @Reg Cæsar

    As with the streets, the sidewalks are awfully narrow in many old European cities.

    Re: the George Floyd bio above. Who knew that his life was actually a struggle for civil rights and racial justice? We should ask some of his victims. Somehow I doubt the [Washington Post] authors did that.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @Ralph L
    @Reg Cæsar

    In '52, my grandmother visited a wealthy aunt in San Francisco. Her house was 89 steps above the street, so I've long wondered if it was near that mini-funicular that appears in an early Eastwood movie and elsewhere. I found a street named close to what she told me, and it's hilly, but it's all built up now.

    , @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar


    Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular,
     
    A funicular is a very specific thing where you have two sets of counterbalanced cars going up and down a sleep slope and linked by a cable, so that you need very little power to move the system because the weight of the downhill car helps to drag up the uphill car. It's not unlike a cable car but on tracks.

    Replies: @Ralph L

    , @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.
     
    At 66 m, or 217 ft, supposedly Zagreb has the shortest funicular in the world. Maybe that's just how it's advertised, but it sounds plausible enough. A 66 m one already seems less than necessary.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Rohirrimborn
    @Reg Cæsar

    I prefer this rendition of Funiculi Funicula:
    https://youtu.be/jXNwxkHcD0A?t=24

    Replies: @Hibernian

  77. @Kylie
    "Few women did [sit on juries]. Missouri had an automatic opt-out clause for women.

    Yes, lifelong Missourian here. Prior to the 1979 ruling, I just ignored the jury summons I got. After 1979, I did the same. 😀

    But of course, many women (i. e., nice white ladies), not content to rule the roost at home, just had to pipe up in the jury room, too. I mean, use their voice.

    By the way, OT, but what is your favorite courtroom movie?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    By the way, OT, but what is your favorite courtroom movie?

    I hate them. So, by default, it’s Miracle on 34th Street!

    • LOL: Kylie, Keypusher
    • Replies: @Renard
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://i.ibb.co/NsDMchL/Capture-2022-12-16-17-10-02-2.png

    Classics?

  78. @Renard
    @Romanian

    https://i.ibb.co/yXVZk5t/Capture-2022-12-16-15-38-06-2.png


    The longer you racists try to put this off, the higher the price goes. Just FYI.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @J.Ross

    The price will keep increasing, no matter how much Danegeld is paid. Serious Q: is anyone anywhere keeping a tab? Going back to LBJ’s “Great Society” if not before, it’s surely in the trillions by now.

    You know full well that no matter how much is paid out to the current crop of squealing brats, the crop which follows will squeal too. “Where’s ours?”

    It’s up to those of us who can do math to do the math, I’m afraid.

  79. @Reg Cæsar
    @Kylie


    By the way, OT, but what is your favorite courtroom movie?
     
    I hate them. So, by default, it's Miracle on 34th Street!

    Replies: @Renard

    Classics?

  80. Meanwhile. Classic mass-media misdirection. Billy Baldwin isn’t what we’re worried about, thank you very much. This is of a piece with the salacious Hunter Biden exposés focusing exclusively upon his sex and drugs habits.

  81. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D

    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.

    You were in Lisbon-- did you ride the famous #28 tram through the Alfama district? I made it a point to. It's one of many parallels Lisbon shares with San Francisco. Difference is, the streets are far from orthogonal in the Alfama.


    https://cdn.travel-in-portugal.com/sites/default/files/lisbon-tram-jam.jpg


    And, of course, there is this famous ditty from Naples:





    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TbcHMGKougA


    She turned 85 Monday.

    Replies: @Renard, @Ralph L, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Rohirrimborn

    As with the streets, the sidewalks are awfully narrow in many old European cities.

    Re: the George Floyd bio above. Who knew that his life was actually a struggle for civil rights and racial justice? We should ask some of his victims. Somehow I doubt the [Washington Post] authors did that.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Renard

    A nice thing about Chicago is the wide sidewalks everywhere. "Make no small plans."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  82. @International Jew
    @Reg Cæsar

    I'm all for Harvard enrolling all the Haitians it can find.

    Replies: @Cato

    I’m all for Harvard enrolling all the Haitians it can find.

    There are plenty to be had, pouring across the southern border.

  83. @Renard
    @Romanian

    https://i.ibb.co/yXVZk5t/Capture-2022-12-16-15-38-06-2.png


    The longer you racists try to put this off, the higher the price goes. Just FYI.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @J.Ross

    There was a really good 4chan thread last night about Portland, Oregon: what it used to be like, how it became what it is now. Two major components were affluent white permissiveness and the importation of people already prone to destruction and dependence, ie, black welfare single mothers from other cities who had heard about dem pro grams. Also, massively, white drug addicts and homeless people. Even when Portland was good it always had a massive white drug problem and white areas you avoided. However, it survived that for decades; it prospered with that. It could not survive people who misunderstood De Tocqueville to be giving financial advice, when he wrote about voting yourself rich. Funnily enough, they had to bring the blacks in from abroad: Portland, an island of more Apartheid than Apartheid, blanned blacks until 1926, and sits far enough away from traditional black population centers that no brother was turning up because he missed a bus stop.
    If this creep popped up in Atlanta or Tuscaloosa, he’d still be wrong, but in a former slave state he would at least be making a kind of sense. California not only was never a slave-holding community, it not only historically had no blacks, it hardly had any whites or Hispanics either until nearly the end of slavery. This is like demanding reparations from Japan.

    • Thanks: Renard
  84. @Inverness
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Lots of people here are sure we're just about to turn this whole thing around.

    Replies: @fish, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Turn it around? No. The only way out is through.

  85. @PhysicistDave
    @Dollar Store Shopper

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:


    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.
     
    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google "Operation Northwoods": quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
    ...
    America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
    ...
    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]
     
    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews -- hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! --called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @shale boi, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @SafeNow, @Muggles, @Adam Smith

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    There are a lot more possibilities than that.

    Take for instance what I think are the major elements of the assassination plot. More than merely a CIA plot.

    This bolstered by admitted actors in the Mafia, their attorneys (Santo Trafficante Jr.’s) and among others, well sourced Mafia admissions documented in “I Hear You Paint Houses” about Frank Sheeran, about whom the film The Irishman was made.

    The playerss: Major elements of the Chicago, NY, Florida and New Orleans mafia. They all wanted Bobby Kennedy out as Atty General and killing JFK was required. Hoffa also waned this and was a major Mafia associate before they killed him.

    LBJ via the CIA provided the Miami based former Bay of Pigs gunmen to Carlos Marcello, New Orleans/Dallas mafia capo who worked under Chicago boss Sam Giancana.

    The CIA ran Oswald and knew him from former Russia/Mexico City surveillance. He was also active in the Fair Play for Cuba committee based in New Orleans. Mafia also ran him as a patsy to Dallas.

    He was killed after the shooting (where the CIA Cubans also added shots) and Dallas mob affiliated “nightclub owner” Jack Ruby took Oswald out, as ordered by the Marcello controlled Dallas mob boss. Ruby probably knew of his cancer diagnosis and was ordered to do the Ruby hit. Dallas PD was under local mob influence.

    It is suspected that LBJ got the CIA to furnish the Cuban exile gunmen. His fingerprints were well hidden. Both Teddy Kennedy and RFK believed LBJ was a major player. As does RFK Jr. And the late Jackie Kennedy.

    So a number of fingerprints on this action. The CIA details are still under secrecy wraps. Tucker’s source may have seen details of this.

    The Lone Nut theory makes no sense. And a lot of mafia corroboration subsequently about many details. When under medical treatment and sedation, Marcello made statements to witnesses about the Kennedy hit, which he later denied.

    I think this is the best, most corroborated account. Done by a team well experienced in assassinations (CIA/Mafia).

    • Replies: @Kylie
    @Muggles

    "I think this is the best, most corroborated account. Done by a team well experienced in assassinations (CIA/Mafia)."

    A guy I knew who claimed to be somewhat in the know said the Army, the CIA and the Mafia were behind JFK's assassination. Not sure if I believe it but conspirators don't have to share motives, they need share only a common goal.

    Basically he said the Army and the CIA thought JFK was a loose cannon, and an incompetent one, at that. According to him, the Bay of Pigs was the last straw. They were sure he'd be reelected and thought he'd bumble his way into a nuclear war in his second term. The Mafia's reasons for wanting him dead are less obscure, I think

    He told me this 25 years after JFK was killed.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  86. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    No only is it not finished, they haven’t even started yet.
     
    Wow. That's worse than the Berlin airport, which finally opened after decades of incompetence. If it were Jerusalem, they'd have the Roman excuse of continually bumping not archeological sites. But Tel Aviv is a baby.

    Speaking of Berlin, a giant aquarium there just burst wide open, spilling fresh sushi everywhere. Apes took over their part of a zoo in Sweden. And, of course, there was the roof of Notre-Dame.

    Is Europe crumbling?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Nicholas Stix, @Muggles

    Hey, Reg, I love that song! Carly Simon, right?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Nicholas Stix

    Song?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Nicholas Stix

  87. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    No only is it not finished, they haven’t even started yet.
     
    Wow. That's worse than the Berlin airport, which finally opened after decades of incompetence. If it were Jerusalem, they'd have the Roman excuse of continually bumping not archeological sites. But Tel Aviv is a baby.

    Speaking of Berlin, a giant aquarium there just burst wide open, spilling fresh sushi everywhere. Apes took over their part of a zoo in Sweden. And, of course, there was the roof of Notre-Dame.

    Is Europe crumbling?

    Replies: @Jack D, @Nicholas Stix, @Muggles

    Speaking of Berlin, a giant aquarium there just burst wide open, spilling fresh sushi

    As yet explained cause of collapse.

    My hunch is “animal rights” nut jobs wanting to liberate the fish.

    Let’s hope they find drowned human rats glued to broken glass at the bottom.

    Or maybe just famed German engineering done by newly imported Turks…

    • Replies: @epebble
    @Muggles

    It was built in 2004, so may be elements of Soviet era East German engineering were employed.

    Also, temperatures in Berlin were well below freezing. While the water in the fishes' tank was kept around 79 degrees, Friday's high was forecast to hit just 29 degrees Fahrenheit.

    So, it may be an old-fashioned winter pipe burst that led to a chain reaction.

    Replies: @Jack D

  88. OT: According to Legal Insurrection Oberlin has finally paid the Gibson family the $36 million judgment they were awarded. Oberlin was stretching out the payment as long as possible even after exhausting all appeals. It will be interesting to see if it is ever disclosed how Oberlin covered the payment.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2022/12/finally-the-gibsons-bakery-family-has-been-paid-by-oberlin-college/

  89. @Bernard
    The title of this article sounds like a title to a movie.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Ralph L

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_quality_of_mercy_(Shakespeare_quote)

    from The Merchant of Venice. Arguably the most famous female transgender speech in Shakespeare.

  90. People who are locked up all day will relieve the monotony in any way they can. Becoming a “woman” is one way. There’s nothing to lose if the prison authorities won’t buy it. One such prisoner got two inmates pregnant in the women’s prison to which he was transferred.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @Rob McX

    It used to be that the one thing that made people fearful of prison was being subject by other inmates to the kind of sex they didn't want.

    Now they can go to prison and get from other inmates the kind of sex they do want.

    So what could be a deterrence now?

  91. @SMK
    For obvious anatomical reasons, women can't commit rape in the pure and literal sense of the word, i.e., violent/forcible penile vaginal/anal penetration, unlike "transgendered" males who still have their penises. Does the person once named Bruce Jenner still have his penis? If so, he's still more male than female.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Does the person once named Bruce Jenner still have his penis? If so, he’s still more male than female.

    I’ve got news for you. When he cuts the dick off he’ll still be a man.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bill Jones

    News you can use. Thanks.

  92. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D

    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.

    You were in Lisbon-- did you ride the famous #28 tram through the Alfama district? I made it a point to. It's one of many parallels Lisbon shares with San Francisco. Difference is, the streets are far from orthogonal in the Alfama.


    https://cdn.travel-in-portugal.com/sites/default/files/lisbon-tram-jam.jpg


    And, of course, there is this famous ditty from Naples:





    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TbcHMGKougA


    She turned 85 Monday.

    Replies: @Renard, @Ralph L, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Rohirrimborn

    In ’52, my grandmother visited a wealthy aunt in San Francisco. Her house was 89 steps above the street, so I’ve long wondered if it was near that mini-funicular that appears in an early Eastwood movie and elsewhere. I found a street named close to what she told me, and it’s hilly, but it’s all built up now.

  93. Lead singer is (obviously) a tranny, too. Actually, Steve, you might like this band.

  94. Is there a term for someone who, whenever informed of something bad, always replies by asserting that the real truth is a much worse thing, of which the bad thing is only a minor part?

    “You know, people were deliberately planted within the Trump Administration to sabotage him.”

    “Ha, Trump himself is controlled opposition. The plants were a limited hangout. Trump was installed as President by the Trilateral Commission.”

    • LOL: PhysicistDave
  95. @Muggles
    @Reg Cæsar


    Speaking of Berlin, a giant aquarium there just burst wide open, spilling fresh sushi
     
    As yet explained cause of collapse.

    My hunch is "animal rights" nut jobs wanting to liberate the fish.

    Let's hope they find drowned human rats glued to broken glass at the bottom.

    Or maybe just famed German engineering done by newly imported Turks...

    Replies: @epebble

    It was built in 2004, so may be elements of Soviet era East German engineering were employed.

    Also, temperatures in Berlin were well below freezing. While the water in the fishes’ tank was kept around 79 degrees, Friday’s high was forecast to hit just 29 degrees Fahrenheit.

    So, it may be an old-fashioned winter pipe burst that led to a chain reaction.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @epebble


    so may be elements of Soviet era East German engineering were employed.
     
    Highly doubtful. The Berlin Wall came down in 1989 and reunification was (legally) complete by 1991. West Germany was very clearly the successor state - all the codes and standards and so on were the Western ones.

    The cold probably had something to do with it and probably some imperceptible flaw or crack in the glass that propagated. Crack propagation is a crazy thing where a crack starts out as microscopic and just keeps going and going until an entire ship or plane (or aquarium) splits in half.
  96. @PhysicistDave
    @Dollar Store Shopper

    Dollar Store Shopper wrote to me:


    Hopefully you’ve read Ron Unz’s American Pravda piece on the JFK assassination? I was floored to know James J. Angleton all but confessed to it being a CIA hit job before meeting his maker.
     
    There have never been publicly available documents proving it.

    What Tucker is claiming is that his source has seen the documents.

    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:

    A) Tucker and his producers are being conned.

    B) There is a very complicated story here: maybe the CIA was stringing Oswald along but did not really believe he would kill Kennedy. Or maybe the CIA thought they could stop him before he went through with it, but they dropped the ball.

    C) The CIA killed Jack Kennedy.

    I have no idea which of these is true.

    Some commenters here have been skeptical when I have pointed out how the US Deep State behaves. Anyone who doubts that the Deep State is indeed capable of atrocities like this needs to google "Operation Northwoods": quoting from ABCNews:

    In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

    Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.
    ...
    America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
    ...
    The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. [emphasis added]
     
    Here is the actual Operation Northwoods document.

    Today, even NBCNews -- hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! --called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.

    Most Americans have no idea what has happened to our country.

    Something has gone horribly, horrifically wrong.

    Far, far worse than most people, even most commenters here, realize.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @shale boi, @Anonymous, @Barnard, @SafeNow, @Muggles, @Adam Smith

    Good evening, PhysicistDave,

    You wrote:

    “Today, even NBCNews — hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! –called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination.”

    Why would there be anything of value in these so called records? Do you believe the CIA would simply release anything incriminating of themselves or those in power? I’d imagine anything that incriminated the agency, it’s agents or their puppeteers would have been destroyed years ago. (If it was documented at all.) I’d also imagine that any “records” that they would release would be complete fabrications in service of any narrative they’d like to weave.

    I have no doubt that the people of the “Deep State” are indeed capable of such atrocities, but why would the people of the “Deep State” hand over documents incriminating themselves (or their paymasters) of a crime of this magnitude? Are the creatures masquerading as “government” really that certain that they are above the law?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @Adam Smith

    Adam Smith asked me:


    Why would there be anything of value in these so called records?
     
    I don't know -- but the truth is that criminals and thugs often do fail to clean up behind themselves. And government apparatchiks tend to be arrogant incompetents.

    Anyway, Tucker's source is either a nutjob or a con artist or someone who actually knows the CIA was involved.

    Tucker did say tonight that the show had been contacted by a representative of the Intel Community who informed them that their source broke federal law. But the Intel guy did not deny the story.

    And if the story is simply a con job, the source would not have been violating federal law.

    Go figure.

    AS also asked:

    I have no doubt that the people of the “Deep State” are indeed capable of such atrocities, but why would the people of the “Deep State” hand over documents incriminating themselves (or their paymasters) of a crime of this magnitude?
     
    Well, thus far, they have not handed over the documents. That is the problem.

    We know that the CIA was killing people, overthrowing governments, inciting civil wars, etc. all over the planet. And we know that they felt very self-righteously proud over it. The CIA tended to recruit from the Ivies, Yale in particular (hence, William F. Buckley, Jr., who openly bragged about having served with the CIA).

    As I mentioned above, it is proven that in the early 1960s the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually recommended killing innocent people (e.g., " "We could sink a boatload of Cubans en route to Florida (real or simulated)") in false-flag operations (Operation Northwoods)!!!

    And yet we have that document: they did not destroy it.

    These were not people inclined towards guilt or humility.

    Anyway, my bet, as others here have suggested, is that it is not the case that some CIA case officer actually ordered Oswald to kill Kennedy but rather that some hare-brained scheme somehow went awry.

    But, if so, that is bad enough. We deserve to know.
  97. @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross

    Huh? Until Tel Aviv's opens (has it yet?), Haifa has the only subway in Israel. It's an underground funicular, so those pics could be up to a radian off.



    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/5a/Carmelit06-10-1959.jpg/1920px-Carmelit06-10-1959.jpg

    Replies: @Jack D, @Jack D, @XBardon Kaldlan

    No angry black men involved in self-conversation?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @XBardon Kaldlan

    That photo is from 1959.

  98. @Anon
    https://youtu.be/eczcRnqNcU0

    OT

    Non-affirmative action doctors curing cancer, from Tablet:


    Another incurable cancer, cured. A 13-year-old girl in England afflicted with T-cell acute lymphoblastic leukemia was cured this year with a new experimental treatment. Doctors had already tried chemotherapy and even a bone marrow transplant to cure the aggressive cancer—which causes the body’s own immune T-cells to proliferate—with no success.

    The only option left was a nascent, cutting-edge technology known as base editing, which allows scientists to take healthy cells, edit their genetic code, and instruct them to destroy the cancerous cells throughout the body. After the treatment, part of the patient’s immune system was essentially erased, and it had to be rebuilt with another bone marrow transplant.

    But so far, she’s cancer free and doing well. Dr. David Liu, who helped pioneer the technology, said that the advancement could have wide-ranging impacts and that it was one of the “key steps toward taking control of our genomes.”
     

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Michelle Shocked understands the quality of mercy. And she is refreshingly transphobic.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @JimDandy

    I remember when this came out, it was like a foreshock of how wierdly out of touch the beautiful people already were.

  99. @Rob McX
    People who are locked up all day will relieve the monotony in any way they can. Becoming a "woman" is one way. There's nothing to lose if the prison authorities won't buy it. One such prisoner got two inmates pregnant in the women's prison to which he was transferred.

    Replies: @njguy73

    It used to be that the one thing that made people fearful of prison was being subject by other inmates to the kind of sex they didn’t want.

    Now they can go to prison and get from other inmates the kind of sex they do want.

    So what could be a deterrence now?

  100. OT:

    I wanted Steve to see this pithy satire tweet — the second one

  101. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D

    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.

    You were in Lisbon-- did you ride the famous #28 tram through the Alfama district? I made it a point to. It's one of many parallels Lisbon shares with San Francisco. Difference is, the streets are far from orthogonal in the Alfama.


    https://cdn.travel-in-portugal.com/sites/default/files/lisbon-tram-jam.jpg


    And, of course, there is this famous ditty from Naples:





    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TbcHMGKougA


    She turned 85 Monday.

    Replies: @Renard, @Ralph L, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Rohirrimborn

    Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular,

    A funicular is a very specific thing where you have two sets of counterbalanced cars going up and down a sleep slope and linked by a cable, so that you need very little power to move the system because the weight of the downhill car helps to drag up the uphill car. It’s not unlike a cable car but on tracks.

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Jack D

    Or an angled elevator.

    Replies: @Jack D

  102. @epebble
    @Muggles

    It was built in 2004, so may be elements of Soviet era East German engineering were employed.

    Also, temperatures in Berlin were well below freezing. While the water in the fishes' tank was kept around 79 degrees, Friday's high was forecast to hit just 29 degrees Fahrenheit.

    So, it may be an old-fashioned winter pipe burst that led to a chain reaction.

    Replies: @Jack D

    so may be elements of Soviet era East German engineering were employed.

    Highly doubtful. The Berlin Wall came down in 1989 and reunification was (legally) complete by 1991. West Germany was very clearly the successor state – all the codes and standards and so on were the Western ones.

    The cold probably had something to do with it and probably some imperceptible flaw or crack in the glass that propagated. Crack propagation is a crazy thing where a crack starts out as microscopic and just keeps going and going until an entire ship or plane (or aquarium) splits in half.

  103. Anonymous[588] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D

    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.

    You were in Lisbon-- did you ride the famous #28 tram through the Alfama district? I made it a point to. It's one of many parallels Lisbon shares with San Francisco. Difference is, the streets are far from orthogonal in the Alfama.


    https://cdn.travel-in-portugal.com/sites/default/files/lisbon-tram-jam.jpg


    And, of course, there is this famous ditty from Naples:





    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TbcHMGKougA


    She turned 85 Monday.

    Replies: @Renard, @Ralph L, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Rohirrimborn

    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.

    At 66 m, or 217 ft, supposedly Zagreb has the shortest funicular in the world. Maybe that’s just how it’s advertised, but it sounds plausible enough. A 66 m one already seems less than necessary.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Downtown LA's Angel Flight cog railway is like one block long.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous

    How'd I forget the Peak Tram in Hong Kong, which I rode in 1985? I was staying at the hostel atop Mt Davis, which had to be scaled on foot (or by taxi), which I did three times, once stripped-down. (It's hot in June.) The summit for the funicular was even higher, so the ride was well-appreciated.

    Peak Tram = Take ramp!

  104. @R.G. Camara
    @PhysicistDave

    Oswald did it, ya moronic bigot.

    So if the CIA was involved that means Oswald was CIA.

    So when someone proves that, you'll have something.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    R.G. Camara wrote to me:

    Oswald did it, ya moronic bigot.

    Well, I think you are probably right, though there are informed people who disagree (about Oswald, that is, but, hey, maybe I also am a “moronic bigot”!).

    RG also wrote:

    So if the CIA was involved that means Oswald was CIA.

    There have been reports in the mainstream media that the CIA may have had some sort of contact with Oswald. The documents still being withheld may relate to that — probably they do.

    Merry Christmas, old pal!

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @PhysicistDave

    I suspect CIA or FBI was trying to use Oswald. Then he committed the assassination right under their noses.
    Because the Mafia wanted Kennedy out of the way, the Dallas Mob had Ruby take out Oswald, thinking he was their hitter.

  105. @PhysicistDave
    OT... or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker's open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had "access" to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):


    "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake."
    ...
    "Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination."
     
    According to Tucker, the source has "direct knowledge" and is "deeply familiar"with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true...

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK "said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he 'wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom's uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the '80s and '90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true...

    Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper, @Dollar Store Shopper, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara, @bomag, @Pop Warner, @Red Pill Angel, @AnotherDad

    A minute after talking about his trusted source for JFK assassination info, Tucker references “our friend, Mike Pompeo.” Hint dropped.

    • Agree: New Dealer
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Red Pill Angel


    A minute after talking about his trusted source for JFK assassination info, Tucker references “our friend, Mike Pompeo.” Hint dropped.
     
    So if Pompeo shoots himself in the head a few times, Tucker's done us all another favor.
  106. @J.Ross
    @PhysicistDave

    The people who care about this are either dead or they figured it out in the 90s at latest and made their peace with it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

    J.Ross wrote to me:

    The people who care about this are either dead or they figured it out in the 90s at latest and made their peace with it.

    If the Deep State killed Kennedy, that is conclusive proof that we have created a truly dangerous monster in the Deep State, a monster that needs to be slain to save our country.

  107. @bomag
    @PhysicistDave

    1) Would such a conspiracy generate any documents?

    2) Would such documents be hanging around this long?

    3) Would any depth of malfeasance surprise anyone today?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    bomag asked me:

    1) Would such a conspiracy generate any documents?

    Would Richard Nixon record himself engaged in crude and inappropriate behavior?

    But he did.

    People like this are often very arrogant and very foolish. And perhaps the documents were created by someone who did not carry out the crimes. Or perhaps the documents fill in some puzzle pieces that clarify the overall picture, but whoever created the document did not realize that at the time.

    bomag also asked:

    2) Would such documents be hanging around this long?

    Tucker’s source claims so. Perhaps the source is a liar or a con artist; perhaps not. Bureaucrats do tend to preserve documents.

    bomag also asked:

    3) Would any depth of malfeasance surprise anyone today?

    The Deep State murdering the President of the United States?

    Yeah, I think that would still surprise people!

  108. @Nicholas Stix
    @Reg Cæsar

    Hey, Reg, I love that song! Carly Simon, right?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Song?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar

    It's probably a misplaced reply to "Funiculi, funicula"

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @Reg Cæsar

    At first, the whole video showed, and then it didn't. I've never figured out how to post videos at UNZ.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atPq0S5pCSY

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  109. @JohnnyWalker123
    Trump trading cards.

    https://twitter.com/emeriticus/status/1603425713440395269

    Replies: @mc23, @tyrone, @AnotherDad

    This is goodness.

    Trump’s such an egotistical, clueless jackass, that he’s taking himself out of the running.

    I can not say the Republicans post-Trump are going to be worthwhile. The tug of the beltway and Jewish money may well overwhelm any positive nationalist impulses of DeSantis and other potential candidates on the right. But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.

    America the nation–coherent people, borders, state–may well simply be over, even while the American nation–a people–still exists out in the hinterlands and in millions of people’s hearts. But at least we can move on and grapple with the future. See what possibilities are available, what restoration or separation is possible, what–if anything–can be salvaged? Or how we can and fight for our rights as an occupied people, in a querulous marketplace empire?

    • Thanks: Polistra
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad


    But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.
     
    I disagree. Trump would be a big asset as someone to rally American people toward this new party. He would be a great "Party Leader" or whatever the hell, as long as he would let someone else more competent run for the highest office.

    Unfortunately, I don't think his ego would let him do anything but run for President himself, to avenge his detractors, settle old scores, run his mouth, tweet like the wind ... anything, anything but get the freaking job done!

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  110. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.
     
    At 66 m, or 217 ft, supposedly Zagreb has the shortest funicular in the world. Maybe that's just how it's advertised, but it sounds plausible enough. A 66 m one already seems less than necessary.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar

    Downtown LA’s Angel Flight cog railway is like one block long.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    Angel's Flight is not a cog railway - it's a true funicular. A cog railway operates on a rack and pinion - the motor is connected to a round gear or cog (the pinion) and a flat set of gear teeth (the rack) is laid in the middle of the tracks and so the train has traction to climb a steep slope.

    In a funicular there are two (or more) counterbalanced cars connected with a cable and a pulley at the top so the one going down helps to drag the one going up back up. As a matter of fact, if you have an endless source of weight at the top (say it's used in a stone quarry) then a funicular will operate without any power source. Otherwise, you just need enough power to overcome the difference in weight and friction, which is a lot less than you would need for a cog railway. It's really a clever use of gravity.

    The disadvantage is that the going up and going down cars are locked into the same schedule. On the Carmelit, which has intermediate stops, the stops have to be equidistant.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  111. @J.Ross
    The old stereotype regarding trannies wasn't that they were perverted but that they were unpredictably dangerous. Upending the norms of gender was understood to signal a lack of respect for any norms.

    Replies: @Chris Mallory

    The same goes for “normal” homosexuals.
    I think it was in the book “Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets” The author a former cop in Baltimore, wrote about how gay on gay murders were always particularly brutal, usually involving sexual mutilation. (Note, I might be wrong about the book, it was 30 years ago I read it.)

  112. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar


    Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular,
     
    A funicular is a very specific thing where you have two sets of counterbalanced cars going up and down a sleep slope and linked by a cable, so that you need very little power to move the system because the weight of the downhill car helps to drag up the uphill car. It's not unlike a cable car but on tracks.

    Replies: @Ralph L

    Or an angled elevator.

    • Agree: Not Raul
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Ralph L

    Usually elevators are counterbalanced by weights, not by other elevator cars. Because then the up car would have to stop whenever the down car stopped and vice versa.

  113. @Barnard
    @PhysicistDave

    Based on what we have seen from the CIA, not the propaganda they get put out through Hollywood, incompetence is always a good bet. My guess is they were trying to manipulate and use Oswald as some sort of source of information on the Soviets/Cuba and it completely spun out of control on them. The files make them look so bad had they been released there would have been no choice but to shut the agency down.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @PhysicistDave

    Barnard wrote to me:

    Based on what we have seen from the CIA, not the propaganda they get put out through Hollywood, incompetence is always a good bet. My guess is they were trying to manipulate and use Oswald as some sort of source of information on the Soviets/Cuba and it completely spun out of control on them.

    Yeah, that is basically my Option B, and if I were forced to bet, that is how I would bet, too.

    But the American people should be told the truth, whatever it is.

  114. @Kylie
    @Reg Cæsar

    "Duren v Missouri was the case that finally forced women onto juries in all 50 states."

    Not this woman. I've had at least three summons to jury duty since this case was decided, the latest was last year. My response to each was non-responsive.

    I have a keen interest in the law but zero interest in being manipulated by anyone (except my dog, when he gives me his puppy dog eyes). I understand very well that a jury trial is less concerned with presenting the facts of a case than with presenting the defendant in the light most conducive to acquittal.

    No defense attorney in his or her right mind would select me.

    Besides, I don't think women should sit on juries

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Adam Smith

    Good evening, Kylie,

    I’ve had at least three summons to jury duty since this case was decided, the latest was last year. My response to each was non-responsive.

    Let it be known that you believe in jury nullification and you will never be summonsed again.

  115. @Muggles
    @PhysicistDave


    As far as I can tell, there are three possibilities:
     
    There are a lot more possibilities than that.

    Take for instance what I think are the major elements of the assassination plot. More than merely a CIA plot.

    This bolstered by admitted actors in the Mafia, their attorneys (Santo Trafficante Jr.'s) and among others, well sourced Mafia admissions documented in "I Hear You Paint Houses" about Frank Sheeran, about whom the film The Irishman was made.

    The playerss: Major elements of the Chicago, NY, Florida and New Orleans mafia. They all wanted Bobby Kennedy out as Atty General and killing JFK was required. Hoffa also waned this and was a major Mafia associate before they killed him.

    LBJ via the CIA provided the Miami based former Bay of Pigs gunmen to Carlos Marcello, New Orleans/Dallas mafia capo who worked under Chicago boss Sam Giancana.

    The CIA ran Oswald and knew him from former Russia/Mexico City surveillance. He was also active in the Fair Play for Cuba committee based in New Orleans. Mafia also ran him as a patsy to Dallas.

    He was killed after the shooting (where the CIA Cubans also added shots) and Dallas mob affiliated "nightclub owner" Jack Ruby took Oswald out, as ordered by the Marcello controlled Dallas mob boss. Ruby probably knew of his cancer diagnosis and was ordered to do the Ruby hit. Dallas PD was under local mob influence.

    It is suspected that LBJ got the CIA to furnish the Cuban exile gunmen. His fingerprints were well hidden. Both Teddy Kennedy and RFK believed LBJ was a major player. As does RFK Jr. And the late Jackie Kennedy.

    So a number of fingerprints on this action. The CIA details are still under secrecy wraps. Tucker's source may have seen details of this.

    The Lone Nut theory makes no sense. And a lot of mafia corroboration subsequently about many details. When under medical treatment and sedation, Marcello made statements to witnesses about the Kennedy hit, which he later denied.

    I think this is the best, most corroborated account. Done by a team well experienced in assassinations (CIA/Mafia).

    Replies: @Kylie

    “I think this is the best, most corroborated account. Done by a team well experienced in assassinations (CIA/Mafia).”

    A guy I knew who claimed to be somewhat in the know said the Army, the CIA and the Mafia were behind JFK’s assassination. Not sure if I believe it but conspirators don’t have to share motives, they need share only a common goal.

    Basically he said the Army and the CIA thought JFK was a loose cannon, and an incompetent one, at that. According to him, the Bay of Pigs was the last straw. They were sure he’d be reelected and thought he’d bumble his way into a nuclear war in his second term. The Mafia’s reasons for wanting him dead are less obscure, I think

    He told me this 25 years after JFK was killed.

    • Thanks: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Kylie

    People have no consciousness of this now but it's hard to exaggerate how huge the Bay of Pigs was.
    >Dude dude dude you need to drop everything and sell your cloak and buy a sword and kill every last communist dude!
    >Oh, okay; say, there's a communist right there!
    >Uh ... hey ... like, learn what a metaphor is, man.

    Replies: @Kylie

  116. @Bernard
    The title of this article sounds like a title to a movie.

    Replies: @Ralph L, @Ralph L

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_quality_of_mercy_(Shakespeare_quote)

    from The Merchant of Venice. Arguably the most famous female transgender speech in Shakespeare. In his time, it would have been a boy playing a girl playing a man.

  117. @Adam Smith
    @PhysicistDave

    Good evening, PhysicistDave,

    You wrote:


    "Today, even NBCNews — hardly a right-wing conspiracy site!! –called for releasing the CIA records on the JFK assassination."
     
    Why would there be anything of value in these so called records? Do you believe the CIA would simply release anything incriminating of themselves or those in power? I'd imagine anything that incriminated the agency, it's agents or their puppeteers would have been destroyed years ago. (If it was documented at all.) I'd also imagine that any "records" that they would release would be complete fabrications in service of any narrative they'd like to weave.

    I have no doubt that the people of the "Deep State" are indeed capable of such atrocities, but why would the people of the "Deep State" hand over documents incriminating themselves (or their paymasters) of a crime of this magnitude? Are the creatures masquerading as "government" really that certain that they are above the law?

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    Adam Smith asked me:

    Why would there be anything of value in these so called records?

    I don’t know — but the truth is that criminals and thugs often do fail to clean up behind themselves. And government apparatchiks tend to be arrogant incompetents.

    Anyway, Tucker’s source is either a nutjob or a con artist or someone who actually knows the CIA was involved.

    Tucker did say tonight that the show had been contacted by a representative of the Intel Community who informed them that their source broke federal law. But the Intel guy did not deny the story.

    And if the story is simply a con job, the source would not have been violating federal law.

    Go figure.

    AS also asked:

    I have no doubt that the people of the “Deep State” are indeed capable of such atrocities, but why would the people of the “Deep State” hand over documents incriminating themselves (or their paymasters) of a crime of this magnitude?

    Well, thus far, they have not handed over the documents. That is the problem.

    We know that the CIA was killing people, overthrowing governments, inciting civil wars, etc. all over the planet. And we know that they felt very self-righteously proud over it. The CIA tended to recruit from the Ivies, Yale in particular (hence, William F. Buckley, Jr., who openly bragged about having served with the CIA).

    As I mentioned above, it is proven that in the early 1960s the Joint Chiefs of Staff actually recommended killing innocent people (e.g., ” “We could sink a boatload of Cubans en route to Florida (real or simulated)”) in false-flag operations (Operation Northwoods)!!!

    And yet we have that document: they did not destroy it.

    These were not people inclined towards guilt or humility.

    Anyway, my bet, as others here have suggested, is that it is not the case that some CIA case officer actually ordered Oswald to kill Kennedy but rather that some hare-brained scheme somehow went awry.

    But, if so, that is bad enough. We deserve to know.

    • Thanks: Adam Smith
  118. @XBardon Kaldlan
    @Reg Cæsar

    No angry black men involved in self-conversation?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    That photo is from 1959.

  119. The first openly transgender woman set to be executed in the U.S. is asking Missouri’s governor for mercy, citing mental health issues.

    This “he’s nuts so let him off” idea is one of the dumbest ideas ever.

    The purpose of “law” is to smooth relations between and protect decent people–let us get on with our lives.

    Say a previously law abiding guy kills his wife for having an affair with a neighbor (or the neighbor for banging the wife). Hey, that’s against the law in our society and the dude should swing. But his very straight up “rational” violence doesn’t suggest any great danger to the rest of us. In contrast, a violent looney is a serious–very likely–danger to everyone else.

    If a person–the biological organism walking around on earth–is dysfunction in a harmful way, we need to kill it/confine it/render it harmless. It’s that blob of tissue doing harmful stuff that we care about. God can take care of the accounting for his “immortal soul”. We just need to kill the POS.

    Missouri executed two men this year. Kevin Johnson, a 37 year old who was convicted of ambushing and killing a St. Louis area police officer he blamed in the death of his younger brother, was put to death last month. Carmen Deck died by injection in May or killing James and Zelma Long during a robbery at their home in De Soto, Missouri, in 1996.

    This is the real scandal here. Missouri is a rust belty, border state. Too many blacks, too shooty. Homicide rate running near 10. Doing some math … 600 intentional homicides per year. Most of those should merit execution.

    To maintain civilization, civilized men must
    a) produce
    b) keep the barbarians out
    c) take out the trash.

  120. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.
     
    At 66 m, or 217 ft, supposedly Zagreb has the shortest funicular in the world. Maybe that's just how it's advertised, but it sounds plausible enough. A 66 m one already seems less than necessary.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Reg Cæsar

    How’d I forget the Peak Tram in Hong Kong, which I rode in 1985? I was staying at the hostel atop Mt Davis, which had to be scaled on foot (or by taxi), which I did three times, once stripped-down. (It’s hot in June.) The summit for the funicular was even higher, so the ride was well-appreciated.

    Peak Tram = Take ramp!

  121. @Jack D

    the defendant convicted of murdering his parents who begged the judge for mercy because he was an orphan
     
    This is usually given as the textbook example of "chutzpah" - a Yiddish word that has made the jump to English. Chutzpah means brazenness, insolence, impudence, arrogance, or audacity (English has a lot of words that are approximately the same thing while Yiddish has only one word but that word really hits the bullseye). If you think about it, chutzpah really sums up the whole Woke phenomenon.

    In Yiddishworld (and even today in Israel) if someone tries this kind of chutzpahdik gambit on you, the response is, "what do you think I am, a freier?" A freier is a sucker - someone over whose eyes you can pull the wool. A freier is not a good thing to be. Israelis are always on guard (perhaps too much on guard) not to come out second in any interaction (even letting someone in traffic into your lane) lest they be seen as freiers.

    But something in our society allows this kind of chutzpah to be not only licensed but entitled to the utmost respect. If the judge just laughed in the face of this "lady's" lawyers for making such an argument, HE and not "her" lawyers would be in trouble.

    Part of it (but only part) is that we were once a high trust society and so assumed the good intentions of members of the bar arguing before the court, "bank officers" who called you to "help" you with your online banking and so on. Sorry, time to say goodbye to high trust society, America. It was nice while it lasted. Don't be freiers.

    The other part is that we have elevated certain groups (but not others) to holy status. If, for example, the murderer's lawyers said that a white male murderer should be spared execution because he was a devout Christian, no one would countenance this argument for a second.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Old Prude, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @AnotherDad

    If you think about it, chutzpah really sums up the whole Woke phenomenon.

    Not really. Chutzpah skews male. Woke is feminine.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @AnotherDad

    This is one of those cases where Jack is completely right. To be woke is not just to memorize the list of terms but also to always upend. As with Communism, the least unsafe place is the cutting edge, you always want to be more X than X.

  122. @PhysicistDave
    @R.G. Camara

    R.G. Camara wrote to me:


    Oswald did it, ya moronic bigot.
     
    Well, I think you are probably right, though there are informed people who disagree (about Oswald, that is, but, hey, maybe I also am a "moronic bigot"!).

    RG also wrote:

    So if the CIA was involved that means Oswald was CIA.
     
    There have been reports in the mainstream media that the CIA may have had some sort of contact with Oswald. The documents still being withheld may relate to that -- probably they do.

    Merry Christmas, old pal!

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    I suspect CIA or FBI was trying to use Oswald. Then he committed the assassination right under their noses.
    Because the Mafia wanted Kennedy out of the way, the Dallas Mob had Ruby take out Oswald, thinking he was their hitter.

  123. @PhysicistDave
    OT... or maybe quite on the topic of murder and getting away with it.

    For everyone who did not see Tucker's open tonight, he claims they have a source that has had "access" to the CIA records concerning the assassination of John F. Kennedy

    According to the source (Tucker says this is verbatim):


    "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved. It's a whole different country from what we thought it was. It's all fake."
    ...
    "Yes, I believe the CIA was involved in the Kennedy assassination."
     
    According to Tucker, the source has "direct knowledge" and is "deeply familiar"with these CIA records, records that the Deep State is still refusing to release, more than sixty years later (despite a Congressional mandate) with regard to the JFK assassination.

    I do not know how reliable the source is.

    But if this turns out to be true...

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    If it is true.

    If it is true, this is far, far worse than the Lincoln assassination. It would rank up there with the assassination of Julius Caesar. Or worse.

    I would remind everyone that according to a story in the NYT in 1966, JFK "said to one of the highest officials of his Administration that he 'wanted to splinter the C.I.A. in a thousand pieces and scatter it to the winds.'"

    Again, I remind everyone that my own family has longstanding ties to the Deep State: My mom's uncle was an FBI Special Agent. My step-mom was lifelong friends with a CIA agent who operated for years in China. My step-brother was involved in training programs for Navy SEALs. And, back in the '80s and '90s, I myself did technical work for the US Intelligence Community.

    None of us thought that this was what the Deep State was doing.

    But if this is true...

    Replies: @Dollar Store Shopper, @Dollar Store Shopper, @J.Ross, @R.G. Camara, @bomag, @Pop Warner, @Red Pill Angel, @AnotherDad

    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.

    LOL. The Deep State isn’t going anywhere. Every post, you’re off in the weeds now. Usually Ukraine, now the JFK assassination? Deep breath Phys Dave. Deep breath.

    — Does the Deep State like having an enemy–power, $$$, job security, status, feeling self-important? Have a bunch of them kept going with Russia out of habit, ethnic animus, rainbow ideology? Sure. And sure.

    — Were elements of the CIA annoyed with Kennedy after the Bay of Pigs fiasco? Sure. Did they assassinate him? I’d say “extremely doubtful”, as this is extremely well trod territory. (Umbrella man was just doing Chamberlain/Joe Kennedy/appeasement mocking. E. Howard Hunt was not one of the tramps.)

    So what? We waste billions, trillions of unnecessary “defense” and “intelligence” spending. One President gets knocked off and does 3 years instead of 4 or 8. BFD.

    You’re hyperventilating over small potatoes, while the real “conspiracy” that actually matters is right out in the open, right in front of your face:
    During our lifetimes our “elites” have cracked up–destroyed–the American nation through immigration and anti-fertility.

    Who gives a shit about a few extra trillions blown or some President given early retirement when the nation itself is dismantled? Perspective.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    @AnotherDad

    AnotherDad wrote to me:


    LOL. The Deep State isn’t going anywhere. Every post, you’re off in the weeds now. Usually Ukraine, now the JFK assassination? Deep breath Phys Dave. Deep breath.
     
    You don't care if an agency of the US government assassinated a President of the United States?

    And you do not care that it is an uncontested, well-documented fact that the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on false-flag plans that included murdering innocent civilians?

    Not to mention that we are risking nuclear war over Ukraine?

    I am afraid your priorities simply differ from mine.

    AD also wrote:

    During our lifetimes our “elites” have cracked up–destroyed–the American nation through immigration and anti-fertility.

    Who gives a shit about a few extra trillions blown or some President given early retirement when the nation itself is dismantled? Perspective.
     
    I have been the loudest and most persistent voice here attacking the parasitic verbalist overclass that has turned the productive members of this society into its peons.

    But foreign policy is part of domestic policy. The ruling elites uses one foreign threat after another -- Hitler, the Soviets, Islamic terrorism, the Russian Collusion scam, Putin, etc. -- as bogeymen to frighten ordinary people and put them in their place.

    And it works.

    For seventy years, the elite has used these supposed foreign threats to neuter the opposition -- the "conservative" movement and the Republican Party.

    You may not be interested in how the elite uses foreign threats to control and manipulate your fellow citizens, but that does not keep the elite from doing so.

    Very effectively.

    And your burying your head in the sand does not stop them.

    To steal the phrase Sailer made famous:

    Invade the world; invite the world.
     
    It's all one single, and very, very effective plan to control you and all of our fellow Americans.

    And it works.

    Even if you want to ignore it.
  124. @AnotherDad
    @PhysicistDave


    Well, if this is true, it will hopefully tear this country apart: it should mean the death of the Deep State.
     
    LOL. The Deep State isn't going anywhere. Every post, you're off in the weeds now. Usually Ukraine, now the JFK assassination? Deep breath Phys Dave. Deep breath.

    -- Does the Deep State like having an enemy--power, $$$, job security, status, feeling self-important? Have a bunch of them kept going with Russia out of habit, ethnic animus, rainbow ideology? Sure. And sure.

    -- Were elements of the CIA annoyed with Kennedy after the Bay of Pigs fiasco? Sure. Did they assassinate him? I'd say "extremely doubtful", as this is extremely well trod territory. (Umbrella man was just doing Chamberlain/Joe Kennedy/appeasement mocking. E. Howard Hunt was not one of the tramps.)

    So what? We waste billions, trillions of unnecessary "defense" and "intelligence" spending. One President gets knocked off and does 3 years instead of 4 or 8. BFD.

    You're hyperventilating over small potatoes, while the real "conspiracy" that actually matters is right out in the open, right in front of your face:
    During our lifetimes our "elites" have cracked up--destroyed--the American nation through immigration and anti-fertility.

    Who gives a shit about a few extra trillions blown or some President given early retirement when the nation itself is dismantled? Perspective.

    Replies: @PhysicistDave

    AnotherDad wrote to me:

    LOL. The Deep State isn’t going anywhere. Every post, you’re off in the weeds now. Usually Ukraine, now the JFK assassination? Deep breath Phys Dave. Deep breath.

    You don’t care if an agency of the US government assassinated a President of the United States?

    And you do not care that it is an uncontested, well-documented fact that the Joint Chiefs of Staff signed off on false-flag plans that included murdering innocent civilians?

    Not to mention that we are risking nuclear war over Ukraine?

    I am afraid your priorities simply differ from mine.

    AD also wrote:

    During our lifetimes our “elites” have cracked up–destroyed–the American nation through immigration and anti-fertility.

    Who gives a shit about a few extra trillions blown or some President given early retirement when the nation itself is dismantled? Perspective.

    I have been the loudest and most persistent voice here attacking the parasitic verbalist overclass that has turned the productive members of this society into its peons.

    But foreign policy is part of domestic policy. The ruling elites uses one foreign threat after another — Hitler, the Soviets, Islamic terrorism, the Russian Collusion scam, Putin, etc. — as bogeymen to frighten ordinary people and put them in their place.

    And it works.

    For seventy years, the elite has used these supposed foreign threats to neuter the opposition — the “conservative” movement and the Republican Party.

    You may not be interested in how the elite uses foreign threats to control and manipulate your fellow citizens, but that does not keep the elite from doing so.

    Very effectively.

    And your burying your head in the sand does not stop them.

    To steal the phrase Sailer made famous:

    Invade the world; invite the world.

    It’s all one single, and very, very effective plan to control you and all of our fellow Americans.

    And it works.

    Even if you want to ignore it.

  125. @Red Pill Angel
    @PhysicistDave

    A minute after talking about his trusted source for JFK assassination info, Tucker references "our friend, Mike Pompeo." Hint dropped.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    A minute after talking about his trusted source for JFK assassination info, Tucker references “our friend, Mike Pompeo.” Hint dropped.

    So if Pompeo shoots himself in the head a few times, Tucker’s done us all another favor.

    • LOL: Red Pill Angel
  126. @Bill Jones
    @SMK


    Does the person once named Bruce Jenner still have his penis? If so, he’s still more male than female.
     
    I've got news for you. When he cuts the dick off he'll still be a man.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    News you can use. Thanks.

  127. @AnotherDad
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This is goodness.

    Trump's such an egotistical, clueless jackass, that he's taking himself out of the running.

    I can not say the Republicans post-Trump are going to be worthwhile. The tug of the beltway and Jewish money may well overwhelm any positive nationalist impulses of DeSantis and other potential candidates on the right. But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.

    America the nation--coherent people, borders, state--may well simply be over, even while the American nation--a people--still exists out in the hinterlands and in millions of people's hearts. But at least we can move on and grapple with the future. See what possibilities are available, what restoration or separation is possible, what--if anything--can be salvaged? Or how we can and fight for our rights as an occupied people, in a querulous marketplace empire?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.

    I disagree. Trump would be a big asset as someone to rally American people toward this new party. He would be a great “Party Leader” or whatever the hell, as long as he would let someone else more competent run for the highest office.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think his ego would let him do anything but run for President himself, to avenge his detractors, settle old scores, run his mouth, tweet like the wind … anything, anything but get the freaking job done!

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I disagree. ...
     
    Actually you don't. You are simply making my point.


    Trump would be a big asset as someone to rally American people toward this new party. He would be a great “Party Leader” or whatever the hell, as long as he would let someone else more competent run for the highest office.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think his ego would let him do anything but run for President himself, to avenge his detractors, settle old scores, run his mouth, tweet like the wind … anything, anything but get the freaking job done!

     

    Trump could have been a great American hero, simply saying he's going to campaign for MAGA candidates and against any anti-nationalist Republicans and remove himself from contention as long as the Republicans nominate a candidate who'll fight for the interests of the American people. He literally could have pushed the Republican party into the "America Party" we need.

    (He could even carry his personal chip-on-the-shoulder and fight for fraud free elections, as it's super-clear there are easy technical election security reforms that are easy for anyone to understand but the Democrats push for more pro-fraud election "reform".)

    But ... Trump ego stands in the way. With Trump it always Trump's ego first, the American nation a distant 2nd (or 3rd after Ivanka).

    There's the Trump America deserves and the Trump the actually exists. Unfortunately we have the later.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  128. @Renard
    @Reg Cæsar

    As with the streets, the sidewalks are awfully narrow in many old European cities.

    Re: the George Floyd bio above. Who knew that his life was actually a struggle for civil rights and racial justice? We should ask some of his victims. Somehow I doubt the [Washington Post] authors did that.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    A nice thing about Chicago is the wide sidewalks everywhere. “Make no small plans.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    A nice thing about Chicago is the wide sidewalks everywhere. “Make no small plans.”
     
    That explains these lines, by New Yorker Sammy Cahn:

    My kind of people, too,
    people who
    smile at you...


    (The tune was by Syracusan Jimmy Van Heusen. Kind of a lake effect there-- his hometown gets more of Lake Michigan's snow than Chicago does.)
  129. @Anonymous
    @PhysicistDave

    The theory I've seen is that the CIA wanted to scare Kennedy, not kill him.

    Oswald's job was to fire, but miss. Shots would be fired, Castro would be blamed, and an angry Kennedy would then authorize the Cuban invasion that everybody wanted.

    Something went wrong. Either Oswald went rogue and decided to kill Kennedy for real, or more interestingly, there was a conspiracy-within-a-conspiracy, of people who wanted Kennedy dead. Just moments before Oswald was due to fire, unknown parties shot Kennedy from another location, leaving Oswald wondering "WTF just happened?"

    Unfortunately, he was killed himself before he could explain himself, so we'll never know for sure.

    Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom

    WRT a plausible “scare him” narrative, I might believe that they (CIA) could not imagine Oswald succeeding. IIRC, many conspiracy theories begin with the implausibility Oswald firing 3 times and hitting his moving target.

    A little more difficult is the motive. If scaring Kennedy was supposed to start a Cuban invasion, why didn’t they continue on after the assassination.

    OTOH, The assassination of Archduke Ferdnand shows that reality is often less plausible than fiction.

  130. @JimDandy
    @Anon

    Michelle Shocked understands the quality of mercy. And she is refreshingly transphobic.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru7cNCmR6Mk

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I remember when this came out, it was like a foreshock of how wierdly out of touch the beautiful people already were.

  131. @AnotherDad
    @Jack D


    If you think about it, chutzpah really sums up the whole Woke phenomenon.
     
    Not really. Chutzpah skews male. Woke is feminine.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    This is one of those cases where Jack is completely right. To be woke is not just to memorize the list of terms but also to always upend. As with Communism, the least unsafe place is the cutting edge, you always want to be more X than X.

  132. @Kylie
    @Muggles

    "I think this is the best, most corroborated account. Done by a team well experienced in assassinations (CIA/Mafia)."

    A guy I knew who claimed to be somewhat in the know said the Army, the CIA and the Mafia were behind JFK's assassination. Not sure if I believe it but conspirators don't have to share motives, they need share only a common goal.

    Basically he said the Army and the CIA thought JFK was a loose cannon, and an incompetent one, at that. According to him, the Bay of Pigs was the last straw. They were sure he'd be reelected and thought he'd bumble his way into a nuclear war in his second term. The Mafia's reasons for wanting him dead are less obscure, I think

    He told me this 25 years after JFK was killed.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    People have no consciousness of this now but it’s hard to exaggerate how huge the Bay of Pigs was.
    >Dude dude dude you need to drop everything and sell your cloak and buy a sword and kill every last communist dude!
    >Oh, okay; say, there’s a communist right there!
    >Uh … hey … like, learn what a metaphor is, man.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @Kylie
    @J.Ross

    "People have no consciousness of this now but it’s hard to exaggerate how huge the Bay of Pigs was."

    I do. I remember it. I was scared not because I understood it but because I could tell adults were anxious about it. Yes, it was huge.

  133. So, castration would be a good start?

  134. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D

    Dubuque has an active funicular, Barcelona three. Some regular lines are so steep that they are effectively funicular, such as the one in Trieste that will take you to the Slovene border.

    You were in Lisbon-- did you ride the famous #28 tram through the Alfama district? I made it a point to. It's one of many parallels Lisbon shares with San Francisco. Difference is, the streets are far from orthogonal in the Alfama.


    https://cdn.travel-in-portugal.com/sites/default/files/lisbon-tram-jam.jpg


    And, of course, there is this famous ditty from Naples:





    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TbcHMGKougA


    She turned 85 Monday.

    Replies: @Renard, @Ralph L, @Jack D, @Anonymous, @Rohirrimborn

    I prefer this rendition of Funiculi Funicula:

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Rohirrimborn

    https://www.google.com/search?client=opera&q=funiculi+funicula&sourceid=opera&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

  135. @Reg Cæsar
    Missouri! Okay, everybody let loose with your "Show Me State" jokes...


    Duren v Missouri was the case that finally forced women onto juries in all 50 states. It was totally RBG-- her last case argued before the Supreme Court before mounting the federal bench herself. Most state legislatures had already changed their laws, but neither Louisiana's nor Missouri's could, as it was in their constitutions, not their law codes. One was opt-in, the other opt-out, so they went to SCOTUS separately.

    The two cases overturned Hoyt v Florida (1961), where Mrs Hoyt's counsel argued that an all-male jury was not one "of her peers", and lost. Duren was a man who made the same argument, yet won.

    Back to the present, what does a "jury of one's peers" mean to a tranny?

    Replies: @Kylie, @Hibernian

    I’m at least a little surpised that it was unanimous, including Black, Douglas, and Brennan. The Jewish dude, Frankfurter, had, at least at this later stage of his career, a reputation as a bit of a Conservative.

  136. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Downtown LA's Angel Flight cog railway is like one block long.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Angel’s Flight is not a cog railway – it’s a true funicular. A cog railway operates on a rack and pinion – the motor is connected to a round gear or cog (the pinion) and a flat set of gear teeth (the rack) is laid in the middle of the tracks and so the train has traction to climb a steep slope.

    In a funicular there are two (or more) counterbalanced cars connected with a cable and a pulley at the top so the one going down helps to drag the one going up back up. As a matter of fact, if you have an endless source of weight at the top (say it’s used in a stone quarry) then a funicular will operate without any power source. Otherwise, you just need enough power to overcome the difference in weight and friction, which is a lot less than you would need for a cog railway. It’s really a clever use of gravity.

    The disadvantage is that the going up and going down cars are locked into the same schedule. On the Carmelit, which has intermediate stops, the stops have to be equidistant.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    On the Carmelit, which has intermediate stops, the stops have to be equidistant.
     
    Is this why the grade keeps changing?

    The shuttle "tram" at the Minneapolis-St Paul airport-- essentially a horizontal elevator-- is run by cable. I liked to call it "the string-driven thing". Ah, memories of the local college radio station of my youth!


    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0566/5105/5295/products/210945_1280x1294.jpg?v=1651562745

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D

  137. @Steve Sailer
    @Renard

    A nice thing about Chicago is the wide sidewalks everywhere. "Make no small plans."

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    A nice thing about Chicago is the wide sidewalks everywhere. “Make no small plans.”

    That explains these lines, by New Yorker Sammy Cahn:

    My kind of people, too,
    people who
    smile at you…

    (The tune was by Syracusan Jimmy Van Heusen. Kind of a lake effect there– his hometown gets more of Lake Michigan’s snow than Chicago does.)

  138. @Mike Tre
    @epebble

    In 5 years it will be known as Harvard Community College.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    It should, but it won’t. Maybe in another 40 years.

  139. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @epebble

    I stand by my prediction that in 50 years the Ivy League will be known as the country's most illustrious HBCUs.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    That’s one school of thought, another says University of Beijing East

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    That’s one school of thought, another says University of Beijing East
     
    It's Peking:

    https://i0.wp.com/mbbsfromchina.in/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/mbbsfromchina.in-PEKING-UNIVERSITY-HEALTH-SCIENCE-CENTER-3.gif


    However, the remaining white folks are so PC and virtue-signalling that they'll hold onto the pinyin as long as they can!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  140. @Jack D
    @Steve Sailer

    Angel's Flight is not a cog railway - it's a true funicular. A cog railway operates on a rack and pinion - the motor is connected to a round gear or cog (the pinion) and a flat set of gear teeth (the rack) is laid in the middle of the tracks and so the train has traction to climb a steep slope.

    In a funicular there are two (or more) counterbalanced cars connected with a cable and a pulley at the top so the one going down helps to drag the one going up back up. As a matter of fact, if you have an endless source of weight at the top (say it's used in a stone quarry) then a funicular will operate without any power source. Otherwise, you just need enough power to overcome the difference in weight and friction, which is a lot less than you would need for a cog railway. It's really a clever use of gravity.

    The disadvantage is that the going up and going down cars are locked into the same schedule. On the Carmelit, which has intermediate stops, the stops have to be equidistant.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    On the Carmelit, which has intermediate stops, the stops have to be equidistant.

    Is this why the grade keeps changing?

    The shuttle “tram” at the Minneapolis-St Paul airport– essentially a horizontal elevator– is run by cable. I liked to call it “the string-driven thing”. Ah, memories of the local college radio station of my youth!

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar


    The shuttle “tram” at the Minneapolis-St Paul airport– essentially a horizontal elevator– is run by cable.
     
    That's the same with the 2 trams that run upstairs in the McNamara A-Concourse at Detroit Metro. (Motto: DTW is very safe and beautiful - just don't leave the airport!)

    Those 2 don't have to be exactly in synch as each goes away from the center or as each goes toward the center. However, the one that's ahead must not leave the center station until the other gets there, as there is only one "railway" (rubber tires on concrete) except for that hundred yard or so center section. It works very well - that concourse is something like 0.9 miles long.
    , @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    It has nothing to do with the grades. In fact on the Carmelit, because the grades keep changing, the floor of the train is not always perfectly level, even at stations (putting aside that the cars and the stations all have stairsteps - the top end of each car is a number of steps higher than the bottom). It's not enough to make you fall over but neither is it exactly level.

    Ideally a funicular track follows an inclined plane with a single slope (and the short ones such as the Angel's Flight usually do). However because the Carmelite follows a natural hill inside a tunnel (and probably because they didn't want to have to tunnel very deeply at spots in order to keep the whole thing underground) the grade varies.

  141. @Hibernian
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    That's one school of thought, another says University of Beijing East

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    That’s one school of thought, another says University of Beijing East

    It’s Peking:

    However, the remaining white folks are so PC and virtue-signalling that they’ll hold onto the pinyin as long as they can!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    I just go by the IATO airport codes. It's PEK, so, yeah. Then there's Canton in the south - CAN, some call it "Guangzhou", but that's not my problem.

  142. @Jack D
    @Reg Cæsar

    Just to be clear, while they haven't started on the (high platform) subway, they are also building light rail (trolley type) lines, up to half of which will run underground and some of those are further advanced (they are already running test trains on one of the lines). They have been building since 2015 and the current opening is scheduled for Feb. 2023 (but it wouldn't surprise me if it was delayed).

    To call these "trolleys" is a bit of a stretch because they are stretched. Each car is segmented into 5 caterpillar like segments and they can run them in pairs so you are not that far from a small subway.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nQu8TGOyAQ

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Looks like Seattle Light Rail, which does not meet any reasonable definition of light rail, with heavy cars and no true street running, only a section that runs in a median strip, guarded by high curbs, in a wide avenue.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Hibernian


    Looks like Seattle Light Rail, which does not meet any reasonable definition of light rail, with heavy cars and no true street running, only a section that runs in a median strip, guarded by high curbs, in a wide avenue.
     
    The Seattle Light Rail ("Link") is utterly embarrassing.
    -- slow
    -- at grade street crossings!!!
    -- no station bypasses

    If I didn't already hate our "progressive" bozos for so much else, I'd hate them for nonsense like this.

    The whole cutesy "light rail" thing is a pathetic prog masturbatory exercise. America cities do not need trolleys. Buses are just fine for running on grade at street level.

    What American cities/metro areas--continuing to grow because of immigration, immigration, immigration--need from rail is the high capacity, high speed, off grade backbone network. That means
    -- fast powerful trainsets that get you up going 50-60 miles per hour in a few seconds
    -- no street grade crossings
    -- bypassable stations to allow express trains (downtown, satellite metros, airport, big employment centers, etc.)
    -- and, of course, "rule of law" so that decent people are willing to ride it.

    This is boneheadedly obvious. And all that is absolutely trivial to delivery at essentially zero cost once you are actually doing all the expensive planning, bureaucratic/legal wrangling, land accquistion, engineering and construction.

    But ... noooooo. Low testosterone progs are obsessed with organic tofu "light" rail.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hibernian, @Jack D

  143. @Reg Cæsar
    @Nicholas Stix

    Song?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Nicholas Stix

    It’s probably a misplaced reply to “Funiculi, funicula”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    It’s probably a misplaced reply to “Funiculi, funicula”
     
    Why would anyone associate that with Carly Simon? At least Connie Francis-- and Connie Stevens-- is a genuine paisana.


    (Yes, is. Both are still alive, in their mid eighties.)
  144. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    On the Carmelit, which has intermediate stops, the stops have to be equidistant.
     
    Is this why the grade keeps changing?

    The shuttle "tram" at the Minneapolis-St Paul airport-- essentially a horizontal elevator-- is run by cable. I liked to call it "the string-driven thing". Ah, memories of the local college radio station of my youth!


    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0566/5105/5295/products/210945_1280x1294.jpg?v=1651562745

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D

    The shuttle “tram” at the Minneapolis-St Paul airport– essentially a horizontal elevator– is run by cable.

    That’s the same with the 2 trams that run upstairs in the McNamara A-Concourse at Detroit Metro. (Motto: DTW is very safe and beautiful – just don’t leave the airport!)

    Those 2 don’t have to be exactly in synch as each goes away from the center or as each goes toward the center. However, the one that’s ahead must not leave the center station until the other gets there, as there is only one “railway” (rubber tires on concrete) except for that hundred yard or so center section. It works very well – that concourse is something like 0.9 miles long.

  145. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hibernian


    That’s one school of thought, another says University of Beijing East
     
    It's Peking:

    https://i0.wp.com/mbbsfromchina.in/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/mbbsfromchina.in-PEKING-UNIVERSITY-HEALTH-SCIENCE-CENTER-3.gif


    However, the remaining white folks are so PC and virtue-signalling that they'll hold onto the pinyin as long as they can!

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I just go by the IATO airport codes. It’s PEK, so, yeah. Then there’s Canton in the south – CAN, some call it “Guangzhou”, but that’s not my problem.

  146. @Reg Cæsar
    @Nicholas Stix

    Song?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Nicholas Stix

    At first, the whole video showed, and then it didn’t. I’ve never figured out how to post videos at UNZ.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Nicholas Stix

    It's a minor bug, Nick, in which you see only the link after you do any editing, in either the [PREVIEW] window or the 5-minute one. However, as I found out after many times of deleting my comment and pasting it back in again, if you re-load the page, you'll see that the video is still embedded nicely. (Thank you, Adam Smith, for clueing me in on the latter thing.)

  147. @Hibernian
    @Reg Cæsar

    It's probably a misplaced reply to "Funiculi, funicula"

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It’s probably a misplaced reply to “Funiculi, funicula”

    Why would anyone associate that with Carly Simon? At least Connie Francis– and Connie Stevens– is a genuine paisana.

    (Yes, is. Both are still alive, in their mid eighties.)

  148. @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad


    But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.
     
    I disagree. Trump would be a big asset as someone to rally American people toward this new party. He would be a great "Party Leader" or whatever the hell, as long as he would let someone else more competent run for the highest office.

    Unfortunately, I don't think his ego would let him do anything but run for President himself, to avenge his detractors, settle old scores, run his mouth, tweet like the wind ... anything, anything but get the freaking job done!

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    I disagree. …

    Actually you don’t. You are simply making my point.

    Trump would be a big asset as someone to rally American people toward this new party. He would be a great “Party Leader” or whatever the hell, as long as he would let someone else more competent run for the highest office.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think his ego would let him do anything but run for President himself, to avenge his detractors, settle old scores, run his mouth, tweet like the wind … anything, anything but get the freaking job done!

    Trump could have been a great American hero, simply saying he’s going to campaign for MAGA candidates and against any anti-nationalist Republicans and remove himself from contention as long as the Republicans nominate a candidate who’ll fight for the interests of the American people. He literally could have pushed the Republican party into the “America Party” we need.

    (He could even carry his personal chip-on-the-shoulder and fight for fraud free elections, as it’s super-clear there are easy technical election security reforms that are easy for anyone to understand but the Democrats push for more pro-fraud election “reform”.)

    But … Trump ego stands in the way. With Trump it always Trump’s ego first, the American nation a distant 2nd (or 3rd after Ivanka).

    There’s the Trump America deserves and the Trump the actually exists. Unfortunately we have the later.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad

    No, I disagree about my agreeing before. ;-} You wrote this:


    But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.
     
    Trump is pretty damned good with crowds, getting people to donate, wear the hats, whatever. I've been to one of his rallies in '16. The crowd was great.

    Trump's got a lot of faults, but he'd be great at leading a new party. What he could do is travel the country, signing up people, raising money for this new party, and calling out all the judges that need recalling or impeachment and things like that.

    For his ego, call him whatever title he would like - MAGA in Chief, Dear Leader, I don't care, so long as he isn't the President, so that Ron DeSantis could be there and actually get stuff done!

    Replies: @Corvinus

  149. @Ralph L
    @Jack D

    Or an angled elevator.

    Replies: @Jack D

    Usually elevators are counterbalanced by weights, not by other elevator cars. Because then the up car would have to stop whenever the down car stopped and vice versa.

  150. @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    Looks like Seattle Light Rail, which does not meet any reasonable definition of light rail, with heavy cars and no true street running, only a section that runs in a median strip, guarded by high curbs, in a wide avenue.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Looks like Seattle Light Rail, which does not meet any reasonable definition of light rail, with heavy cars and no true street running, only a section that runs in a median strip, guarded by high curbs, in a wide avenue.

    The Seattle Light Rail (“Link”) is utterly embarrassing.
    — slow
    — at grade street crossings!!!
    — no station bypasses

    If I didn’t already hate our “progressive” bozos for so much else, I’d hate them for nonsense like this.

    The whole cutesy “light rail” thing is a pathetic prog masturbatory exercise. America cities do not need trolleys. Buses are just fine for running on grade at street level.

    What American cities/metro areas–continuing to grow because of immigration, immigration, immigration–need from rail is the high capacity, high speed, off grade backbone network. That means
    — fast powerful trainsets that get you up going 50-60 miles per hour in a few seconds
    — no street grade crossings
    — bypassable stations to allow express trains (downtown, satellite metros, airport, big employment centers, etc.)
    — and, of course, “rule of law” so that decent people are willing to ride it.

    This is boneheadedly obvious. And all that is absolutely trivial to delivery at essentially zero cost once you are actually doing all the expensive planning, bureaucratic/legal wrangling, land accquistion, engineering and construction.

    But … noooooo. Low testosterone progs are obsessed with organic tofu “light” rail.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    The whole cutesy “light rail” thing is a pathetic prog masturbatory exercise. America cities do not need trolleys. Buses are just fine for running on grade at street level.
     
    Kenosha's legacy streetcars look like fun. And the system didn't have to be built, merely rebuilt. They'd be a tourist attraction, as in San Francisco and New Orleans, were there any other reason to go there.

    Kenosha is where Joe Pyne invented call-in talk radio in 1949. It's a little early for a Kyle Rittenhouse museum, but an Antifa one could be set up. It's a start.

    It's also the only one of Wisconsin's four cardinal extremes not situated on an isolated island. However, that side is on private property; you may have to enter via Illinois.

    Replies: @Wendy K. Kroy

    , @Hibernian
    @AnotherDad

    Maybe only NYC can afford 4 tracks. One electric commuter rail line in Chicago has 4 tracks; except on its branches, one of which is single track and the other double. All the others, about 10 including branches, are diesel and use 2 or 3 tracks. CTA elevated and subway trains used to have "Skip-Stop" service with A &B trains and A, B, and AB stations, This was abolished likely because it was confusing and didn't help much. I'd say Downtown to Airport express in Chicago ought to be by commuter rail. Rahm Emmanuel had some pie in the sky direct tunnel plan in (prospective) paertnership with Elon Musk which went nowhere and is never talked about now that he's gone.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Jack D
    @AnotherDad

    You can do all of this with light rail. Over 100 years ago when passenger rail was still a business they built the P&W (aka the Norristown High Speed Line) as a low cost competitor to the Pennsylvania Railroad. It's grade separated, high platform, high speed, 3rd rail, everything but the rolling stock is of a light trolley type.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norristown_High_Speed_Line

    It doesn't get huge ridership because (probably for reason of cost and right of way) they didn't build it all the way into the center of Philly - it stops at the city line where you are supposed to transfer over to the elevated subway that takes you the rest of the way. Nowadays the last stop is more or less in the ghetto and the subway downtown takes you through an even bigger ghetto so white commuters generally avoid it both for reasons of time and safety. There's a station within walking distance of my house (even closer than the Pennsylvania RR station - the stops were close together) but I can honestly say that I've never ridden on it. If you make the connections perfectly its 1/2 the cost and only 15 minutes more but it's not worth risking your life or even just having to ride with the denizens of the ghetto.

  151. @AnotherDad
    @Hibernian


    Looks like Seattle Light Rail, which does not meet any reasonable definition of light rail, with heavy cars and no true street running, only a section that runs in a median strip, guarded by high curbs, in a wide avenue.
     
    The Seattle Light Rail ("Link") is utterly embarrassing.
    -- slow
    -- at grade street crossings!!!
    -- no station bypasses

    If I didn't already hate our "progressive" bozos for so much else, I'd hate them for nonsense like this.

    The whole cutesy "light rail" thing is a pathetic prog masturbatory exercise. America cities do not need trolleys. Buses are just fine for running on grade at street level.

    What American cities/metro areas--continuing to grow because of immigration, immigration, immigration--need from rail is the high capacity, high speed, off grade backbone network. That means
    -- fast powerful trainsets that get you up going 50-60 miles per hour in a few seconds
    -- no street grade crossings
    -- bypassable stations to allow express trains (downtown, satellite metros, airport, big employment centers, etc.)
    -- and, of course, "rule of law" so that decent people are willing to ride it.

    This is boneheadedly obvious. And all that is absolutely trivial to delivery at essentially zero cost once you are actually doing all the expensive planning, bureaucratic/legal wrangling, land accquistion, engineering and construction.

    But ... noooooo. Low testosterone progs are obsessed with organic tofu "light" rail.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hibernian, @Jack D

    The whole cutesy “light rail” thing is a pathetic prog masturbatory exercise. America cities do not need trolleys. Buses are just fine for running on grade at street level.

    Kenosha’s legacy streetcars look like fun. And the system didn’t have to be built, merely rebuilt. They’d be a tourist attraction, as in San Francisco and New Orleans, were there any other reason to go there.

    Kenosha is where Joe Pyne invented call-in talk radio in 1949. It’s a little early for a Kyle Rittenhouse museum, but an Antifa one could be set up. It’s a start.

    It’s also the only one of Wisconsin’s four cardinal extremes not situated on an isolated island. However, that side is on private property; you may have to enter via Illinois.

    • Replies: @Wendy K. Kroy
    @Reg Cæsar

    OT -- Reg: Some time ago I forgot to thank you for reminding me of the poem "High Flight". Thanks.

  152. @Rohirrimborn
    @Reg Cæsar

    I prefer this rendition of Funiculi Funicula:
    https://youtu.be/jXNwxkHcD0A?t=24

    Replies: @Hibernian

  153. @Nicholas Stix
    @Reg Cæsar

    At first, the whole video showed, and then it didn't. I've never figured out how to post videos at UNZ.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atPq0S5pCSY

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s a minor bug, Nick, in which you see only the link after you do any editing, in either the [PREVIEW] window or the 5-minute one. However, as I found out after many times of deleting my comment and pasting it back in again, if you re-load the page, you’ll see that the video is still embedded nicely. (Thank you, Adam Smith, for clueing me in on the latter thing.)

  154. @AnotherDad
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I disagree. ...
     
    Actually you don't. You are simply making my point.


    Trump would be a big asset as someone to rally American people toward this new party. He would be a great “Party Leader” or whatever the hell, as long as he would let someone else more competent run for the highest office.

    Unfortunately, I don’t think his ego would let him do anything but run for President himself, to avenge his detractors, settle old scores, run his mouth, tweet like the wind … anything, anything but get the freaking job done!

     

    Trump could have been a great American hero, simply saying he's going to campaign for MAGA candidates and against any anti-nationalist Republicans and remove himself from contention as long as the Republicans nominate a candidate who'll fight for the interests of the American people. He literally could have pushed the Republican party into the "America Party" we need.

    (He could even carry his personal chip-on-the-shoulder and fight for fraud free elections, as it's super-clear there are easy technical election security reforms that are easy for anyone to understand but the Democrats push for more pro-fraud election "reform".)

    But ... Trump ego stands in the way. With Trump it always Trump's ego first, the American nation a distant 2nd (or 3rd after Ivanka).

    There's the Trump America deserves and the Trump the actually exists. Unfortunately we have the later.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    No, I disagree about my agreeing before. ;-} You wrote this:

    But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.

    Trump is pretty damned good with crowds, getting people to donate, wear the hats, whatever. I’ve been to one of his rallies in ’16. The crowd was great.

    Trump’s got a lot of faults, but he’d be great at leading a new party. What he could do is travel the country, signing up people, raising money for this new party, and calling out all the judges that need recalling or impeachment and things like that.

    For his ego, call him whatever title he would like – MAGA in Chief, Dear Leader, I don’t care, so long as he isn’t the President, so that Ron DeSantis could be there and actually get stuff done!

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @Achmed E. Newman

    He’s a shyster huckster. You’ve been bamboozled. He HATES you. Did he ever like the little people like yourself before he ran for President?

  155. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    The whole cutesy “light rail” thing is a pathetic prog masturbatory exercise. America cities do not need trolleys. Buses are just fine for running on grade at street level.
     
    Kenosha's legacy streetcars look like fun. And the system didn't have to be built, merely rebuilt. They'd be a tourist attraction, as in San Francisco and New Orleans, were there any other reason to go there.

    Kenosha is where Joe Pyne invented call-in talk radio in 1949. It's a little early for a Kyle Rittenhouse museum, but an Antifa one could be set up. It's a start.

    It's also the only one of Wisconsin's four cardinal extremes not situated on an isolated island. However, that side is on private property; you may have to enter via Illinois.

    Replies: @Wendy K. Kroy

    OT — Reg: Some time ago I forgot to thank you for reminding me of the poem “High Flight”. Thanks.

  156. @AnotherDad
    @Hibernian


    Looks like Seattle Light Rail, which does not meet any reasonable definition of light rail, with heavy cars and no true street running, only a section that runs in a median strip, guarded by high curbs, in a wide avenue.
     
    The Seattle Light Rail ("Link") is utterly embarrassing.
    -- slow
    -- at grade street crossings!!!
    -- no station bypasses

    If I didn't already hate our "progressive" bozos for so much else, I'd hate them for nonsense like this.

    The whole cutesy "light rail" thing is a pathetic prog masturbatory exercise. America cities do not need trolleys. Buses are just fine for running on grade at street level.

    What American cities/metro areas--continuing to grow because of immigration, immigration, immigration--need from rail is the high capacity, high speed, off grade backbone network. That means
    -- fast powerful trainsets that get you up going 50-60 miles per hour in a few seconds
    -- no street grade crossings
    -- bypassable stations to allow express trains (downtown, satellite metros, airport, big employment centers, etc.)
    -- and, of course, "rule of law" so that decent people are willing to ride it.

    This is boneheadedly obvious. And all that is absolutely trivial to delivery at essentially zero cost once you are actually doing all the expensive planning, bureaucratic/legal wrangling, land accquistion, engineering and construction.

    But ... noooooo. Low testosterone progs are obsessed with organic tofu "light" rail.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hibernian, @Jack D

    Maybe only NYC can afford 4 tracks. One electric commuter rail line in Chicago has 4 tracks; except on its branches, one of which is single track and the other double. All the others, about 10 including branches, are diesel and use 2 or 3 tracks. CTA elevated and subway trains used to have “Skip-Stop” service with A &B trains and A, B, and AB stations, This was abolished likely because it was confusing and didn’t help much. I’d say Downtown to Airport express in Chicago ought to be by commuter rail. Rahm Emmanuel had some pie in the sky direct tunnel plan in (prospective) paertnership with Elon Musk which went nowhere and is never talked about now that he’s gone.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Hibernian

    If you think about it, as long as you have a 100% reliable switching system, you only need two (or even one) track with just short stretches of siding. This is especially true on a commuter type line where the trains are 20 or 30 minutes apart. You just have to shut the slower or opposite direction train onto a siding for long enough for the other train to pass.

    The railroad industry is very old and a lot of the thinking in it is very old school, starting with the fact that they have humans operating the trains. They got rid of elevator operators decades ago.

    Maybe they could have a human on board for safety but humans shouldn't be allowed to touch the controls except maybe for emergency stop. A few years ago there was a horrific Amtrak crash in Philly because the engineer took a curve at way too high a speed. He said that some youfs had been throwing rocks at his windshield and he panicked and too off and killed 8 people and injured hundreds. The whole thing was very inexplicable - the engineer was this young guy who have been a train buff his entire life - it wasn't just a blue collar job for him - he was the kind of person who lived and breathed trains from the time he was a little kid and this was his dream job. He knew every curve on the railroad like the back of his hand. But he ended up killing people and being put on trial. He was acquitted (what he did was negligence but it was not criminal negligence which bears a very high threshold) but it still turned his life upside down (though not nearly as much as the passengers on the train).

    Replies: @Hibernian

  157. @Hibernian
    @AnotherDad

    Maybe only NYC can afford 4 tracks. One electric commuter rail line in Chicago has 4 tracks; except on its branches, one of which is single track and the other double. All the others, about 10 including branches, are diesel and use 2 or 3 tracks. CTA elevated and subway trains used to have "Skip-Stop" service with A &B trains and A, B, and AB stations, This was abolished likely because it was confusing and didn't help much. I'd say Downtown to Airport express in Chicago ought to be by commuter rail. Rahm Emmanuel had some pie in the sky direct tunnel plan in (prospective) paertnership with Elon Musk which went nowhere and is never talked about now that he's gone.

    Replies: @Jack D

    If you think about it, as long as you have a 100% reliable switching system, you only need two (or even one) track with just short stretches of siding. This is especially true on a commuter type line where the trains are 20 or 30 minutes apart. You just have to shut the slower or opposite direction train onto a siding for long enough for the other train to pass.

    The railroad industry is very old and a lot of the thinking in it is very old school, starting with the fact that they have humans operating the trains. They got rid of elevator operators decades ago.

    Maybe they could have a human on board for safety but humans shouldn’t be allowed to touch the controls except maybe for emergency stop. A few years ago there was a horrific Amtrak crash in Philly because the engineer took a curve at way too high a speed. He said that some youfs had been throwing rocks at his windshield and he panicked and too off and killed 8 people and injured hundreds. The whole thing was very inexplicable – the engineer was this young guy who have been a train buff his entire life – it wasn’t just a blue collar job for him – he was the kind of person who lived and breathed trains from the time he was a little kid and this was his dream job. He knew every curve on the railroad like the back of his hand. But he ended up killing people and being put on trial. He was acquitted (what he did was negligence but it was not criminal negligence which bears a very high threshold) but it still turned his life upside down (though not nearly as much as the passengers on the train).

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Jack D

    "...as long as you have a 100% reliable switching system..."

    Not likely in an urban mass transt system. Even if you replace human operators or reduce them to the minimum, humans still perform the maintenance.

  158. @Reg Cæsar
    @Jack D


    On the Carmelit, which has intermediate stops, the stops have to be equidistant.
     
    Is this why the grade keeps changing?

    The shuttle "tram" at the Minneapolis-St Paul airport-- essentially a horizontal elevator-- is run by cable. I liked to call it "the string-driven thing". Ah, memories of the local college radio station of my youth!


    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0566/5105/5295/products/210945_1280x1294.jpg?v=1651562745

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Jack D

    It has nothing to do with the grades. In fact on the Carmelit, because the grades keep changing, the floor of the train is not always perfectly level, even at stations (putting aside that the cars and the stations all have stairsteps – the top end of each car is a number of steps higher than the bottom). It’s not enough to make you fall over but neither is it exactly level.

    Ideally a funicular track follows an inclined plane with a single slope (and the short ones such as the Angel’s Flight usually do). However because the Carmelite follows a natural hill inside a tunnel (and probably because they didn’t want to have to tunnel very deeply at spots in order to keep the whole thing underground) the grade varies.

  159. @AnotherDad
    @Hibernian


    Looks like Seattle Light Rail, which does not meet any reasonable definition of light rail, with heavy cars and no true street running, only a section that runs in a median strip, guarded by high curbs, in a wide avenue.
     
    The Seattle Light Rail ("Link") is utterly embarrassing.
    -- slow
    -- at grade street crossings!!!
    -- no station bypasses

    If I didn't already hate our "progressive" bozos for so much else, I'd hate them for nonsense like this.

    The whole cutesy "light rail" thing is a pathetic prog masturbatory exercise. America cities do not need trolleys. Buses are just fine for running on grade at street level.

    What American cities/metro areas--continuing to grow because of immigration, immigration, immigration--need from rail is the high capacity, high speed, off grade backbone network. That means
    -- fast powerful trainsets that get you up going 50-60 miles per hour in a few seconds
    -- no street grade crossings
    -- bypassable stations to allow express trains (downtown, satellite metros, airport, big employment centers, etc.)
    -- and, of course, "rule of law" so that decent people are willing to ride it.

    This is boneheadedly obvious. And all that is absolutely trivial to delivery at essentially zero cost once you are actually doing all the expensive planning, bureaucratic/legal wrangling, land accquistion, engineering and construction.

    But ... noooooo. Low testosterone progs are obsessed with organic tofu "light" rail.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Hibernian, @Jack D

    You can do all of this with light rail. Over 100 years ago when passenger rail was still a business they built the P&W (aka the Norristown High Speed Line) as a low cost competitor to the Pennsylvania Railroad. It’s grade separated, high platform, high speed, 3rd rail, everything but the rolling stock is of a light trolley type.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norristown_High_Speed_Line

    It doesn’t get huge ridership because (probably for reason of cost and right of way) they didn’t build it all the way into the center of Philly – it stops at the city line where you are supposed to transfer over to the elevated subway that takes you the rest of the way. Nowadays the last stop is more or less in the ghetto and the subway downtown takes you through an even bigger ghetto so white commuters generally avoid it both for reasons of time and safety. There’s a station within walking distance of my house (even closer than the Pennsylvania RR station – the stops were close together) but I can honestly say that I’ve never ridden on it. If you make the connections perfectly its 1/2 the cost and only 15 minutes more but it’s not worth risking your life or even just having to ride with the denizens of the ghetto.

  160. @Achmed E. Newman
    @AnotherDad

    No, I disagree about my agreeing before. ;-} You wrote this:


    But at least the opportunity exists to build a nationalist party, without the noisy bag of ego, Trump.
     
    Trump is pretty damned good with crowds, getting people to donate, wear the hats, whatever. I've been to one of his rallies in '16. The crowd was great.

    Trump's got a lot of faults, but he'd be great at leading a new party. What he could do is travel the country, signing up people, raising money for this new party, and calling out all the judges that need recalling or impeachment and things like that.

    For his ego, call him whatever title he would like - MAGA in Chief, Dear Leader, I don't care, so long as he isn't the President, so that Ron DeSantis could be there and actually get stuff done!

    Replies: @Corvinus

    He’s a shyster huckster. You’ve been bamboozled. He HATES you. Did he ever like the little people like yourself before he ran for President?

  161. @J.Ross
    @Kylie

    People have no consciousness of this now but it's hard to exaggerate how huge the Bay of Pigs was.
    >Dude dude dude you need to drop everything and sell your cloak and buy a sword and kill every last communist dude!
    >Oh, okay; say, there's a communist right there!
    >Uh ... hey ... like, learn what a metaphor is, man.

    Replies: @Kylie

    “People have no consciousness of this now but it’s hard to exaggerate how huge the Bay of Pigs was.”

    I do. I remember it. I was scared not because I understood it but because I could tell adults were anxious about it. Yes, it was huge.

  162. @Jack D
    @Hibernian

    If you think about it, as long as you have a 100% reliable switching system, you only need two (or even one) track with just short stretches of siding. This is especially true on a commuter type line where the trains are 20 or 30 minutes apart. You just have to shut the slower or opposite direction train onto a siding for long enough for the other train to pass.

    The railroad industry is very old and a lot of the thinking in it is very old school, starting with the fact that they have humans operating the trains. They got rid of elevator operators decades ago.

    Maybe they could have a human on board for safety but humans shouldn't be allowed to touch the controls except maybe for emergency stop. A few years ago there was a horrific Amtrak crash in Philly because the engineer took a curve at way too high a speed. He said that some youfs had been throwing rocks at his windshield and he panicked and too off and killed 8 people and injured hundreds. The whole thing was very inexplicable - the engineer was this young guy who have been a train buff his entire life - it wasn't just a blue collar job for him - he was the kind of person who lived and breathed trains from the time he was a little kid and this was his dream job. He knew every curve on the railroad like the back of his hand. But he ended up killing people and being put on trial. He was acquitted (what he did was negligence but it was not criminal negligence which bears a very high threshold) but it still turned his life upside down (though not nearly as much as the passengers on the train).

    Replies: @Hibernian

    “…as long as you have a 100% reliable switching system…”

    Not likely in an urban mass transt system. Even if you replace human operators or reduce them to the minimum, humans still perform the maintenance.

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