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With massive numbers of Afghans trying to get into Europe, often by claiming to be Syrians, it’s worth recalling the kind of vibrant cultural diversity that Afghan Pathan customs could offer us here in the stale pale West. From the New York Times, an update on a topic I’ve been writing about since December 1, 2001: the Pathan penchant for “beardless youths:”
U.S. Soldiers Told to Ignore Afghan Allies’ Abuse of Boys
By JOSEPH GOLDSTEIN SEPT. 20, 2015Dan Quinn was relieved of his Special Forces command after a fight with a U.S.-backed militia leader who had a boy as a sex slave chained to his bed.
KABUL, Afghanistan — In his last phone call home, Lance Cpl. Gregory Buckley Jr. told his father what was troubling him: From his bunk in southern Afghanistan, he could hear Afghan police officers sexually abusing boys they had brought to the base.
“At night we can hear them screaming, but we’re not allowed to do anything about it,” the Marine’s father, Gregory Buckley Sr., recalled his son telling him before he was shot to death at the base in 2012. He urged his son to tell his superiors. “My son said that his officers told him to look the other way because it’s their culture.”
Rampant sexual abuse of children has long been a problem in Afghanistan, particularly among armed commanders who dominate much of the rural landscape and can bully the population. The practice is called bacha bazi, literally “boy play,” and American soldiers and Marines have been instructed not to intervene — in some cases, not even when their Afghan allies have abused boys on military bases, according to interviews and court records.
The policy has endured as American forces have recruited and organized Afghan militias to help hold territory against the Taliban. But soldiers and Marines have been increasingly troubled that instead of weeding out pedophiles, the American military was arming them in some cases and placing them as the commanders of villages — and doing little when they began abusing children.
“The reason we were here is because we heard the terrible things the Taliban were doing to people, how they were taking away human rights,” said Dan Quinn, a former Special Forces captain who beat up an American-backed militia commander for keeping a boy chained to his bed as a sex slave. “But we were putting people into power who would do things that were worse than the Taliban did — that was something village elders voiced to me.”
The Taliban first won power in the 1990s when two of the traditional warlords got into a civil war over the affections of a particularly winsome youth. The fundamentalist Taliban were against boy play, which made them more popular.
The policy of instructing soldiers to ignore child sexual abuse by their Afghan allies is coming under new scrutiny, particularly as it emerges that service members like Captain Quinn have faced discipline, even career ruin, for disobeying it.
After the beating, the Army relieved Captain Quinn of his command and pulled him from Afghanistan. He has since left the military.
Four years later, the Army is also trying to forcibly retire Sgt. First Class Charles Martland, a Special Forces member who joined Captain Quinn in beating up the commander. …
The American policy of nonintervention is intended to maintain good relations with the Afghan police and militia units the United States has trained to fight the Taliban. It also reflects a reluctance to impose cultural values in a country where pederasty is rife, particularly among powerful men, for whom being surrounded by young teenagers can be a mark of social status. …
“The bigger picture was fighting the Taliban,” a former Marine lance corporal reflected. “It wasn’t to stop molestation.”
Still, the former lance corporal, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid offending fellow Marines, recalled feeling sickened the day he entered a room on a base and saw three or four men lying on the floor with children between them. “I’m not a hundred percent sure what was happening under the sheet, but I have a pretty good idea of what was going on,” he said.
But the American policy of treating child sexual abuse as a cultural issue has often alienated the villages whose children are being preyed upon.
Anyway, in the big picture, the only solution within our Grand Strategy of Invade the World, Invite the World is to have everybody in Afghanistan move to Europe and America, which will help expose intolerant nativist bigots who can’t put with diverse cultural practices.
The Pathans/Pushtuns have a lovely culture, from which we could learn much. I’ve posted some Pathan Proverbs here for your edification.
Well, let’s not forget that age, and, indeed, time itself, is a social construct like gender.
Consent is also a social construct.
Who’s to say? Bruce Jenner showed us once and for all that having a penis is really the LAST thing that makes you a man. Maybe being over 18 is the LAST thing that makes you an adult. Maybe it’s about emotional age.
Get ready.
Pedophilia. Denial of womens’ rights. Polygamy. Scientific illiteracy. Inbreeding. Intolerance. Religious devotion. Religious fanaticism.
Just a few of the attributes the Left decries in American conservatives* but embraces in foreign Muslims.
* I’m basing this not on reality but on the oft-repeated assertions of the prominence of inbreeding and pedophilia in the American South (i.e., a conservative region of the country).
Can't we all just agree to bring back the word "pederasty"? Pedophilia is way too clinical and obscures the fact that these are a bunch of homo acts. People shouldn't forget that. These are not general perverts, they're boy-abusers. Pederasts. Buggerers. Fudge-packers, etc.
Pederasty.
Not pedophilia.
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good bye germany
“At night we can hear them screaming, but we’re not allowed to do anything about it,”
I dunno. Sounds like Hollywood, Catholic Church, and San Fran.
Why would US intervene in homos having their fun? Americans allow homos to plant the homo flag in every church.
I think Afghans will fit right in the new USA, especially as the new Army Secretary is gonna be a open fruiter.
Btw, US does precious little about blacks butt-raping whites in jails, and there is total silence about black on white rape in the US and black on white mass murder in South Africa.
The silence in Afghanistan if part of a pattern.
West is sick.
Neither honor nor dignity, but self deception and delusion.
Maybe Pakistan or some Trans-Oxus location can absorb the Afghan refugees.
Just a few of the attributes the Left decries in American conservatives* but embraces in foreign Muslims.
* I'm basing this not on reality but on the oft-repeated assertions of the prominence of inbreeding and pedophilia in the American South (i.e., a conservative region of the country).Replies: @Anonymous, @no name, @Jefferson, @Chrisnonymous, @Dew
Isn’t it relative to the American North, historically?
Wait a minute –
9/11 was carried out by Al Qaeda, which was harbored in Afghanistan by the Taliban, who came to power (at least in part) because they were the only guys who could stand up to the Gay Warlords (Gaylords?) who were raping kids.
So the gays did cause 9/11!!!
Rev. Falwell, please accept our apologies.
I’m being facetious, but only a little bit. I think a lot of the world sees USG coming in and destroying the social structures they have put in place to restrain the worst among them. What they see of American culture only confirms their impression that USG is defender of degenerates.
Just a few of the attributes the Left decries in American conservatives* but embraces in foreign Muslims.
* I'm basing this not on reality but on the oft-repeated assertions of the prominence of inbreeding and pedophilia in the American South (i.e., a conservative region of the country).Replies: @Anonymous, @no name, @Jefferson, @Chrisnonymous, @Dew
Since when is pedophilia prominent in the South?
As I said, accusations not reality.
Jerry Lee Lewis was a marginal case. She was pubescent and apparently legal under the Napoleonic Code. Common-law prudes in other states objected, just as we object to Namblanistan.
I wonder how many articles I’ve read over the last 10 or 12 years about someone in the American military realizing that the U.S. government is often full of shit. It’s almost like a lot of people who join the military are idiots, even the officers….(sarcasm). I know I may catch some flak for saying that and I know it’s slightly OT, but I’m tired of hearing servicemen whine. There was an article in the New York Times a few months ago about servicemen being mad that people always say “Thank you for your service”, knowing that if people stopped saying it they’d be pissed about that too. Again, I know this is OT, but I had to vent.
Mullah Omar and the Taliban got rolling by putting an end to such abuse. Here’s a bit from Wikipedia:
Looks like the Taliban will need to be reconstituted.
Note to self: never get stuck in the old ways to such a degree that fundamentalist Islam starts looking positively progressive by comparison.I didn't know the taliban were such a force for social justice (the real one)
So the West wouldn't let Afghanistan modernize under the Communists and it would't let them modernize under the Taliban. It's liberal democracy or nothing! The West is hard to please...
(Has democracy actually ever worked anywhere except the Anglosphere? Even Germany, a modern, socially advanced nation to start with, got it wrong the first couple of times)Replies: @andy russia, @Anonymous
Strangely enough, modern genetic science appears to show a strong genetic link between present day Lithuanians and present day Pashtuns.
Pashtuns, apparently, can be ‘modelled’ as being something like 40% Lithuanian.
Researchers believe that this is an artifact of ‘Aryan’ invasions in the bronze age.
Just a few of the attributes the Left decries in American conservatives* but embraces in foreign Muslims.
* I'm basing this not on reality but on the oft-repeated assertions of the prominence of inbreeding and pedophilia in the American South (i.e., a conservative region of the country).Replies: @Anonymous, @no name, @Jefferson, @Chrisnonymous, @Dew
Middle Eastern Muslim countries are Deliverance on steroids. Muslim men make Hillbilly Appalachians look like sophisticated bourgeois Swiss people in comparison.
The Prophet Muhammad says you have a sexy time purdy mouth.
Deliverance and its ilk are typical Hollywood demonization of the South and Appalachia. You’ll find much, much, MUCH more pedophilia and inbreeding amongst Orthodox Jews, for instance, but funny enough, you won’t see any Hollywood movies touching on such matters. If you are relying on movies like Deliverance for your knowledge of “Hillbilly Appalachians”, you are drinking from a poisoned well.
As to the Taliban, they got their initial popularity by stopping abuse of boys by warlords, but unfortunately for the Afghans the Taliban are against all forms of fun – not just pederasty, but also no alcohol, no shaving of beards, no music, no musical instruments, no singing, no dancing, no art, no education for girls, only limited Islamic education for boys, and so on. It’s a pretty grim way to live, and the Taliban soon wore out their welcome. Basically no matter which side wins ordinary Afghans are going to lose; but if they come to the West they’ll just bring their cultural maladies with them and ruin Europe as well.
In summary: build more walls.
“Since when is pedophilia prominent in the South?”
As I said, accusations not reality.
As to the Taliban, they got their initial popularity by stopping abuse of boys by warlords, but unfortunately for the Afghans the Taliban are against all forms of fun - not just pederasty, but also no alcohol, no shaving of beards, no music, no musical instruments, no singing, no dancing, no art, no education for girls, only limited Islamic education for boys, and so on. It's a pretty grim way to live, and the Taliban soon wore out their welcome. Basically no matter which side wins ordinary Afghans are going to lose; but if they come to the West they'll just bring their cultural maladies with them and ruin Europe as well.
In summary: build more walls.Replies: @IHTG, @Hibernian
Deliverance is based on a novel written by a Southern guy named James Lafayette Dickey, though.
Any nation:
Note to self: never get stuck in the old ways to such a degree that fundamentalist Islam starts looking positively progressive by comparison.
I didn’t know the taliban were such a force for social justice (the real one)
So the West wouldn’t let Afghanistan modernize under the Communists and it would’t let them modernize under the Taliban. It’s liberal democracy or nothing! The West is hard to please…
(Has democracy actually ever worked anywhere except the Anglosphere? Even Germany, a modern, socially advanced nation to start with, got it wrong the first couple of times)
Note to self: never get stuck in the old ways to such a degree that fundamentalist Islam starts looking positively progressive by comparison.I didn't know the taliban were such a force for social justice (the real one)
So the West wouldn't let Afghanistan modernize under the Communists and it would't let them modernize under the Taliban. It's liberal democracy or nothing! The West is hard to please...
(Has democracy actually ever worked anywhere except the Anglosphere? Even Germany, a modern, socially advanced nation to start with, got it wrong the first couple of times)Replies: @andy russia, @Anonymous
Well, what a bummer. Note to self: don’t be too quick to overestimate the progressiveness of the Taliban when you have only one point of data.
Note to self: never get stuck in the old ways to such a degree that fundamentalist Islam starts looking positively progressive by comparison.I didn't know the taliban were such a force for social justice (the real one)
So the West wouldn't let Afghanistan modernize under the Communists and it would't let them modernize under the Taliban. It's liberal democracy or nothing! The West is hard to please...
(Has democracy actually ever worked anywhere except the Anglosphere? Even Germany, a modern, socially advanced nation to start with, got it wrong the first couple of times)Replies: @andy russia, @Anonymous
Democracy only when the vote is consistent with the ruling elite. When is the last time the majority of the people of a state voted for something not kosher with the ruling elite that their vote was honored?
I can tell you a couple things for sure, based on three deployments.
1: The stuff about the locals being horrified by these deviant pedophiles is horseshit. This is so culturally ingrained it is common for a head of household to offer blowjobs from his young male relatives to guests over for dinner. No one is upset by it. They might get upset if the cops start “arresting” or kidnapping those kids to keep them, but that’s about it.
2: Everyone I served with was absolutely disgusted by this. Between the treatment of boys and the treatment of women, it made most of us pretty hardcore anti-muslim. But my boys had the good sense to do our extra-judicial punishment of offenders far from the prying eyes of our own officers. The only greater inhibition to the pacification of a region than the scum who live there is the officers whose best path to promotion is to ferret out every tiny infraction of rules in a combat zone and prosecute anyone who gets too effective at their job.
3: I had the dubious pleasure of serving on an observation/interdiction team, which meant using night vision and thermals to keep an eye on things in the dark. You can tell a lot about a culture by what happens in the dark. I went to the ME thinking all we had to do was remove the oppressive tyrants, and let the decent, normal people get on with their lives. There are no decent, normal people, not in our formulation of those words. There is a large collection of child-raping, wife beating, cousin-murdering religiously fanatical insane people.
This is the environment the Israelis have to survive in. Yes, the Israelis are a pain in the ass, but they survive in an environment of near total perversion. When you fight wars against people who enjoy cutting off your dick and stuffing it in your mouth - before you die - it does something to you.
It's hard to think their parents or immediate family liked it either.
Does the definition of "family" include cousins and other hangers on who aren't really relatives?Replies: @anon
Not in the US murder machine.
I can’t speak to pedophilia, but circa 1981 my family and I were camping on on trip through Mississippi. A few sites over were a tent full of young girls from a female basketball team (high school … college?) with a bit too much alcohol and a bit too little discretion. We spent the night a bit surprised at the loud conversations as well as the non-stop kissing and fondling clearly visible through an open tent door. I had always thought that these things went on behind closed doors, especially in the South. One is never too old to learn.
It’s not. He’s conflating pedophilia and incest, as well as rednecks and hillbillies. And, as he said, he’s talking about what’s in the mind of detractors, not reality.
Jerry Lee Lewis was a marginal case. She was pubescent and apparently legal under the Napoleonic Code. Common-law prudes in other states objected, just as we object to Namblanistan.
Hey, Mista Tallyban, tally dem bananas
Daylight come, an’ me wan’ throw stone
Sounds like the answer for Afghanistan is the Taliban, absent sanctuaries for non-Afghani Islamicists. Considering what happened last time I doubt they would want to allow such sanctuaries in the future.
Slightly OT, but have you noticed that men who molest or rape boys, like these Pashtun, or Jerry Sandusky or certain priests, are somehow considered Not Really Gay? I guess you have to be thin and fussy and own a couple of cats or else you’re just a pervert.
Earl, you made my day. I remember Falwell, RIP, making that comment and the world being outraged. He walked it back a bit the next day, but plenty of us were silently agreeing that America’s sick culture was in need of some judgment.
I dont get it. How come there are so many fruitcakes out there? And how is their fruitcakeyness so different from what we see in the US?
Is it really the case that the lack of access to women makes otherwise straight men turn into bacha baziers?
It’s all so confusing. Why can’t they just open up some whorehouses and leave the young children alone?
I think this tells you all you need to know about these cultures, extremely hierarchical, brutal with no sense of justice to say the least. A western gay guy would likely be as disgusted with it as a strsight. These were the depraved forms of homosexuality Paul of tarsas railed against.Replies: @Chrisnonymous
They gays like Anderson Cooper that defend Islam do it because they want cheaper rough trade, & would rather have boys when he is on location in moslem nations. Leftists hide the fact that they risk being beheaded for all their money instead of just being buggered for a buck Anderson Cooper is too cheap for 2 buck Chuck.
Hollywood will make a movie out of it. Except in the movie, Lnc Cpl. Johnny America will be a racist, anti-Muslim, Chrisitan fundamentalist (and, oh yeah, a closet case himself) standing in the way of a young Pashtun flowering into his true sexuality with the help of his tender, soulful, freedom fighting paramour. It will be called TORA BORA-BACK MOUNTAIN. Bryan Singer will direct: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/19/inside-hollywood-s-twink-pool-parties.html
No one says they’re “not really gay.” The point is that gays are no more likely to be pedophiles than straights are.
Cultural practices must be examined in the context of that culture. Any culture in the world can look at any other culture and see things they find to be morally repugnant. For the same reasons we don’t want bachi bazi imported to the US, we shouldn’t try to impose our moral standards on Pashtuns. Americans should, at an absolute minimum, abolish the livestock torture industry and the prison and military industrial complexes before we clutch our pearls at the practices of a bunch of goat herders in Central Asia
They should pull out of Afghanistan completely and go invade Saudi Arabia as Saudi money is the biggest driver of the whole problem.
I would not be surprised if this was a partial motivation of our elite- to get widespread acceptance of pedophilia – after all, defacto ‘Afghan’ culture has been going in hollywood for years,… not to mention among the british political classes, I suspect this has existed in aksanazi culture for a long long time (see rabbi sex abuse scandals in brooklyn)
AFAIK, roughly half of pedophilia victims are boys, whereas almost all pedophiles are male. In other words, roughly half of all pedophiles are gay. Since only maybe 4% of all males are gay… well, you can do the math.
1: The stuff about the locals being horrified by these deviant pedophiles is horseshit. This is so culturally ingrained it is common for a head of household to offer blowjobs from his young male relatives to guests over for dinner. No one is upset by it. They might get upset if the cops start "arresting" or kidnapping those kids to keep them, but that's about it.
2: Everyone I served with was absolutely disgusted by this. Between the treatment of boys and the treatment of women, it made most of us pretty hardcore anti-muslim. But my boys had the good sense to do our extra-judicial punishment of offenders far from the prying eyes of our own officers. The only greater inhibition to the pacification of a region than the scum who live there is the officers whose best path to promotion is to ferret out every tiny infraction of rules in a combat zone and prosecute anyone who gets too effective at their job.
3: I had the dubious pleasure of serving on an observation/interdiction team, which meant using night vision and thermals to keep an eye on things in the dark. You can tell a lot about a culture by what happens in the dark. I went to the ME thinking all we had to do was remove the oppressive tyrants, and let the decent, normal people get on with their lives. There are no decent, normal people, not in our formulation of those words. There is a large collection of child-raping, wife beating, cousin-murdering religiously fanatical insane people.Replies: @WhatEvvs, @notsaying, @Bill Jones
Exactly, which is why the stuff about the Taliban being popular because they were against this, is also horseshit. I honestly don’t know whether, or why, the Taliban had some popular support. Perhaps it had to do with general corruption (not having been in power, they were less corrupt) but it had nothing to do with their being against pederasty. They were big pederasts themselves.
This is the environment the Israelis have to survive in. Yes, the Israelis are a pain in the ass, but they survive in an environment of near total perversion. When you fight wars against people who enjoy cutting off your dick and stuffing it in your mouth – before you die – it does something to you.
Exactly wrong. The psychology literature has for years promoted the doublespeak that a man who molests boys is not homosexual unless he is also attracted to adult men. It must be nice to have the power to change the plain meaning of words.
Classic pedophilia (child abuse) isn’t really a gay fetish. Gays may be somewhat more likely statistically to abuse children, but 50% of a tiny number is still a tiny number.
What is a fetish, is pederasty – love of “beardless youth.” The article glosses over this and uses pederasty once, if memory serves, interchangeably with pedophilia. The two phenomena are entirely different. Pederasty is a central feature of gay culture. To secure political acceptance, gays have had to play nice about this and cover this up, but it’s a fact and it’s only a matter of time before this becomes brutally clear.
1: The stuff about the locals being horrified by these deviant pedophiles is horseshit. This is so culturally ingrained it is common for a head of household to offer blowjobs from his young male relatives to guests over for dinner. No one is upset by it. They might get upset if the cops start "arresting" or kidnapping those kids to keep them, but that's about it.
2: Everyone I served with was absolutely disgusted by this. Between the treatment of boys and the treatment of women, it made most of us pretty hardcore anti-muslim. But my boys had the good sense to do our extra-judicial punishment of offenders far from the prying eyes of our own officers. The only greater inhibition to the pacification of a region than the scum who live there is the officers whose best path to promotion is to ferret out every tiny infraction of rules in a combat zone and prosecute anyone who gets too effective at their job.
3: I had the dubious pleasure of serving on an observation/interdiction team, which meant using night vision and thermals to keep an eye on things in the dark. You can tell a lot about a culture by what happens in the dark. I went to the ME thinking all we had to do was remove the oppressive tyrants, and let the decent, normal people get on with their lives. There are no decent, normal people, not in our formulation of those words. There is a large collection of child-raping, wife beating, cousin-murdering religiously fanatical insane people.Replies: @WhatEvvs, @notsaying, @Bill Jones
I don’t think the kids involved liked it.
It’s hard to think their parents or immediate family liked it either.
Does the definition of “family” include cousins and other hangers on who aren’t really relatives?
In our culture, we beat the living shit out of child molesters. Let them follow their culture and then we’ll follow ours.
Must be read to be believed.
https://info.publicintelligence.net/HTT-PashtunSexuality.pdf
1: The stuff about the locals being horrified by these deviant pedophiles is horseshit. This is so culturally ingrained it is common for a head of household to offer blowjobs from his young male relatives to guests over for dinner. No one is upset by it. They might get upset if the cops start "arresting" or kidnapping those kids to keep them, but that's about it.
2: Everyone I served with was absolutely disgusted by this. Between the treatment of boys and the treatment of women, it made most of us pretty hardcore anti-muslim. But my boys had the good sense to do our extra-judicial punishment of offenders far from the prying eyes of our own officers. The only greater inhibition to the pacification of a region than the scum who live there is the officers whose best path to promotion is to ferret out every tiny infraction of rules in a combat zone and prosecute anyone who gets too effective at their job.
3: I had the dubious pleasure of serving on an observation/interdiction team, which meant using night vision and thermals to keep an eye on things in the dark. You can tell a lot about a culture by what happens in the dark. I went to the ME thinking all we had to do was remove the oppressive tyrants, and let the decent, normal people get on with their lives. There are no decent, normal people, not in our formulation of those words. There is a large collection of child-raping, wife beating, cousin-murdering religiously fanatical insane people.Replies: @WhatEvvs, @notsaying, @Bill Jones
“There are no decent, normal people, not in our formulation of those words.”
Not in the US murder machine.
As to the Taliban, they got their initial popularity by stopping abuse of boys by warlords, but unfortunately for the Afghans the Taliban are against all forms of fun - not just pederasty, but also no alcohol, no shaving of beards, no music, no musical instruments, no singing, no dancing, no art, no education for girls, only limited Islamic education for boys, and so on. It's a pretty grim way to live, and the Taliban soon wore out their welcome. Basically no matter which side wins ordinary Afghans are going to lose; but if they come to the West they'll just bring their cultural maladies with them and ruin Europe as well.
In summary: build more walls.Replies: @IHTG, @Hibernian
IIRC a cable TV movie, or episode of a series (maybe the one about the Special Victims Unit with Mariska Hargitay as a co-star) showed that an Orthodox Jewish mother killed her child, who had a rare genetic disease, in part to avoid her adulterous affair with a Jewish man other than her husband being found out, in addition to sparing the child, herself, and her husband extended suffering. (I was guilty of triple redundancy, for clarity and emphasis, in that sentence.) The disease was one not uncommon among Jewish people and almost unknown among the rest of us, and it was very debilitating. She and her husband were of course genetically tested a short time before their marriage and both came up negative. I think she had a doctor commit the physical act of killing (drug overdose, I think) and there was some collusion with an undertaker to hide the body.
I believe that Orthodox Jews (especially the Ultra-Orthodox, which this woman and her husband were not) can be in the same category as Catholics, Mormons, and Fundamentalists in the eye of the Establishment.
P.S.: I believe also there was an attempt to frame a third party, maybe a family member or relative, by throwing a small package in the Hudson (the entire episode took place in Upper Manhattan) or claiming that someone had done so.
Now they mustn’t.
It’s not just pearl clutching from afar though is it; it’s the neocons forcing the military to collude in it – totally corrupting.
They should pull out of Afghanistan completely and go invade Saudi Arabia as Saudi money is the biggest driver of the whole problem.
It's hard to think their parents or immediate family liked it either.
Does the definition of "family" include cousins and other hangers on who aren't really relatives?Replies: @anon
Without wanting to read the details I’d be amazed if there’s not some kind of power dynamic involved here with kids from the bottom of the social tree being the ones who get used.
When we talk about what's done and what's accepted in Afghanistan, we have to know who's involved to judge. That's probably true in all places but it seems where there's more inequality and poverty, the lives of the elite differs even more than usual than the lives of those at the bottom of the social and economic scale.
In this case, the acts committed by these adult men against the boys involves so many negatives (with no real positives) that it's impossible to think the men who do them would allow anyone to them or their own sons that way.
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Is it really the case that the lack of access to women makes otherwise straight men turn into bacha baziers?
It's all so confusing. Why can't they just open up some whorehouses and leave the young children alone?Replies: @newyorker
I’very read that the form homosexuality takes in these cultures in pederasty-men with boys-or between high and low status men. The younger and weaker take the passive role. Western style homosexuality is between men who are peers, a form anathema in the middle east.
I think this tells you all you need to know about these cultures, extremely hierarchical, brutal with no sense of justice to say the least. A western gay guy would likely be as disgusted with it as a strsight. These were the depraved forms of homosexuality Paul of tarsas railed against.
Just a few of the attributes the Left decries in American conservatives* but embraces in foreign Muslims.
* I'm basing this not on reality but on the oft-repeated assertions of the prominence of inbreeding and pedophilia in the American South (i.e., a conservative region of the country).Replies: @Anonymous, @no name, @Jefferson, @Chrisnonymous, @Dew
and @Steve,
Can’t we all just agree to bring back the word “pederasty”? Pedophilia is way too clinical and obscures the fact that these are a bunch of homo acts. People shouldn’t forget that. These are not general perverts, they’re boy-abusers. Pederasts. Buggerers. Fudge-packers, etc.
Pederasty.
Not pedophilia.
I think this tells you all you need to know about these cultures, extremely hierarchical, brutal with no sense of justice to say the least. A western gay guy would likely be as disgusted with it as a strsight. These were the depraved forms of homosexuality Paul of tarsas railed against.Replies: @Chrisnonymous
You either have an agenda, or you don’t know gays.
Shall we just ignore the Islamists snipping off the clitorises of their young girls, too?
If you are relying on movies like Deliverance for your knowledge of “Hillbilly Appalachians”
He is.
Most Jewish genetic diseases aren’t exactkt “common” among Ashkenazi Jews but are rather relatively more prevalent among Ashkenazi Jews than among non-Ashkenazi / non-Jews. For instance, the carrier rate of the Tay Sachs mutation (in the gene hexosaminidase A) is between 1/27 and 1/30. However, the disease is inherited in an autosomal recessive manner meaning that two copies of the mutation are required to develop the disease. In recent times, where screeing is available to most Ashkenazi Jews who want it, the Tay Sachs disease rate is 1 in 3,500 births. Also, Tay Sachs is not unique to Ashkenazi Jews, being found among French Canadians, Cajuns. Different mutations in the same gene are responsible, though.
” I pointed out here – way back in 2002 – it was outrage at the prevalence of boy rape that brought the Taliban to power in the first place.
It was the winter of 1994, and in the southern city of Kandahar two warlords were at each other’s throats. The issue: who would get to rape a boy desired by both of them. In the gun battle that followed, several bystanders were killed, and the villagers appealed to Mullah Omar, leader of the nascent Taliban, who freed the boy and restored order.”
http://www.antiwar.com 09/23/2105
I agree.
When we talk about what’s done and what’s accepted in Afghanistan, we have to know who’s involved to judge. That’s probably true in all places but it seems where there’s more inequality and poverty, the lives of the elite differs even more than usual than the lives of those at the bottom of the social and economic scale.
In this case, the acts committed by these adult men against the boys involves so many negatives (with no real positives) that it’s impossible to think the men who do them would allow anyone to them or their own sons that way.
Just a few of the attributes the Left decries in American conservatives* but embraces in foreign Muslims.
* I'm basing this not on reality but on the oft-repeated assertions of the prominence of inbreeding and pedophilia in the American South (i.e., a conservative region of the country).Replies: @Anonymous, @no name, @Jefferson, @Chrisnonymous, @Dew
Indeed. The major reason why Islam is tolerated in the West is because most of the practitioners have a darker skin color and still are a minority.