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Murdered NYPD officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos

After months of the White House, the Democratic Party, and the prestige press trying to angry up the black vote, things like this were bound to happen. So what if the Democrats’ 2014 campaign strategy has come home to roost. You can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs, can you? Too bad Lu, Ramos, and Begic had to die for the crime of being non-black, but it was all in the good cause of trying to boost black turnout to benefit Democratic politicians. From the New York Post:

Gunman executes 2 NYPD cops as ‘revenge’ for Garner
By Larry Celona, Kevin Fasick, Jamie Schram and Laura Italiano

December 20, 2014 | 4:07pm

Two uniformed NYPD officers were shot dead Saturday afternoon as they sat in their marked police car on a Brooklyn street corner — in what investigators believe was a crazed gunman’s ­assassination-style mission to avenge Eric Garner and Michael Brown.

“It’s an execution,” one law-enforcement source said of the 3 p.m. shooting of police officers Wenjian Liu and Rafael Ramos.

Civil Rights Protester

The tragic heroes were working overtime as part of an anti-terrorism drill in Bedford-Stuyvesant when they were shot point-blank in the head by the lone gunman, identified by sources as Ismaaiyl Brinsley, 28, who had addresses in Georgia and Brooklyn.

Moments after killing the two officers, he too was dead, having turned the gun on himself on a nearby subway platform as cops closed in.

“I’m Putting Wings on Pigs Today,” a person believed to be the gunman wrote on Instagram in a message posted just three hours before the officers were shot.

“They Take 1 Of Ours…Let’s Take 2 of Theirs,” the post continued, signing off with, “This May Be My Final Post.”

He used the hashtag #ShootThePolice, along with two other hashtags referencing Garner and Brown.

The Obama Administration and its allies in the national media have been following the strategy outlined in the 1997 Brimelow-Rubinstein article on how electing a new people favors the Democrats by building a larger anti-white coalition.

But as I pointed out in VDARE in 2009, while Asians and Latinos (such as the two murdered NYPD officers) might well be bribed and cajoled by the American Establishment into supporting the Anti-White Party, they have good reasons for being less enthusiastic about supporting the Black Party:

Being, in essence, the white party makes the GOP uncool. And that`s only going to get worse as the impact of decades of indoctrination in the uncoolness of white people by the school system and Main Stream Media continue to pile up.

… My suggestion: the only long-term option for the Republicans, the de facto white party, is to rebrand the Democrats as the de facto black party.

Not the Minority Party or the Cool, Hip, Multicultural Party—but the Black Party. Go with the flow of the fundamental Manichaeism of American thought: Black versus White.

Sure, it’s kind of retarded, but Americans, especially American intellectuals and pundits, aren’t good at thinking in terms of shades of brown. You can`t beat it, so use it.

Hispanics and Asians certainly will never be terribly happy with the idea of being junior partners in the white party. (Indeed, lots of white people have an allergy to belonging to the white party.) Hence, the alternative must be framed that if Hispanics and Asians don’t want to be junior partners in the white party, they get be junior partners in the black party.

Black or white: choose one.

Or they can not choose and stay home on Election Day.

The subtle cunning of the tactic of rebranding the Democrats as the black party is not to criticize the Democrats for being the vehicle of African-American political activism, but to praise them for it, over and over, in the most offhand “everybody-knows” ways.

Republicans can hurry along the coming Democratic train wreck by, for example, lauding blacks as the “moral core” of the Democratic Party. Respectfully point out that the Democratic Party is the rightful agent for the assertion of African-American racial interests, and that advancing black interests is central to the nature of the Democratic Party. Note that, while individual blacks wishing to vote for the good of the country are more than welcome in the GOP, black racial activists have their natural home in the Democratic Party. That’s what the Democrats are there for.

Don’t argue it. Just treat it as a given.

Moreover, Republican rhetoric should encourage feelings of proprietariness among blacks toward their Democratic Party. It’s not all that hard to get blacks to feel that they morally deserve something, such as, for example, predominance in the Democratic Party. African-Americans are good at feeling that others owe them deference.

This kind of subtle language, casually repeated, puts Democrats in a delicate spot. Either they insult blacks by denying this presumption, or they alarm their Asian, Hispanic, and white supporters by not denying it. As everybody knows, but seldom says, black political control hasn’t worked out well for places as far apart as Detroit and Zimbabwe. …

As the black sense of rightful ascendancy in the Democratic Party becomes more pronounced, Hispanics will be demanding that their burgeoning numbers mean that it’s now their turn. Meanwhile, more Asians will wonder why they are supporting an agglomeration dominated by blacks who don`’ share their values. And white Democrats will wonder how exactly they can prosper in a party where everybody else is allowed to speak out in internal disputes as representatives of a legitimately aggrieved racial group, but they aren’t.

The GOP faces a daunting future of their own making. Then, again, so do the Democrats. All Democrats should be helpfully assisted to confront this.

I haven’t noticed any Republicans following this machiavellian cleverness, but I sure have noticed a lot of Democrats in 2014 stupidly walking themselves into this trap. It’s easy to persaude blacks to behave badly. And that’s what Barack Obama, Eric Holder, and the New York Times have been working to do since August.

 
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  1. The SJW jargon for this is “centering blackness” and they are very proud to be doing it. Interesting judo strategy.

  2. As sad as this is, I have been distracted by the cosmic irony of this black thug randomly picking two cops who aren’t just not white, aren’t just Asian and Hispanic, but have names so ethnic that SNL writers would reject them as just asking for trouble.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Education Realist

    Yes.

    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    @Education Realist

    Possibility that Ismaaiyl Brinsley had both racist and Jihadist motivations for the killings.

    Brinsley saw two non black policing a largely black neighborhood so he shot them.

    Brinsley saw two infidel or haram cops patrolling a black, to be Islamic, neighborhood so he shot them.

    Democrats can't help doubling down on double plus crazy.

  3. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    It’s a damned sight more complicated than that, Steve.

    It’s not a simple ‘quid pro quo’ as you might believe, in which the nastiness of the reality of black behavior somehow ‘forces’ Asians, latinos and others into the so-called ‘white tent’, by which I suppose you mean the plutocratic, money worshipping cult that is the Republican Party. No, it’s not a simple chess or checkers game, it’s much more complicated than that, poker, that old and venerated game, which is the true life and soul of America, is the best analogy.
    Basically, the point is this: ‘Doing down whitey’ is the name of the game, in the case of white women, it’s doing down white men. This part of the game is simple. By destroying white men in terms of temporal power, in theory, at least, a vast stick of wealth and power is supposedly ‘liberated’ to be divvyed up by the ‘oppressed’. So at present women’ blacks, Asians, latinos and the rest, are going at it hammers and tongs, and are winning, in so much as the white man in the USA has been basically castrated. So far, so good, as the ‘anti’ forces would have it.
    But blacks, due to their generally foul behavior are universally a spoiler. So, yes, the antis will, inevitably squabble amongst themselves – eventually. But and it’s a Kardashian sized but, whitey man is, as Willy Sutton might have said, ‘where the money is’, so the general incessant and omnipotent attack will continue till the last pair of Caucasian balls have been excised – count on it. And the campaign WILL prevail’ they’ve just got too much power and cohesion at their elbow. But once whitey man has gone, all bets are off. Frankly I haven’t a clue what will happen, but I doubt it will be good.
    Another thing I’m certain of is that white women will side with the antis, no matter how hard their white brothers, fathers and sons are being hammered. You can take that last shrewd observation to the bank.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Anonymous

    "The odd thing about the racial agitation lately had been that there’s no point to it: the election is in the rear view mirror."

    People really don't get it: for Barack Obama, racial agitation is not just a political strategy - it is an obsession, and yes, he really is that racist. Watch every speech. He mentions race in almost every major speech he gives, even in speeches where it isn't remotely topical - the speech on Sony pulling it's North Korea movie, the speech celebrating the anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall (a speech, iirc, where he never once uttered the word "communist"), etc., etc. It is always on his mind.

    So of course he hasn't let up since the election. Freed from ever having to run for election again and from the need to help win the mid-terms, he is now free to let his extremism all hang out. Hell, it was already obvious during his first term, and even before he was elected. But now it will only get worse, to the point where he's willing to do real damage to the Republic of the kind which even most Democrats aren't inclined. The only thing keeping him from doing some truly awful things is the potential loss of ex post facto bribes - aka, "speaking fees."

    So no, his racial animosity is not a political tactic. It is very real.

  4. This seems a lot like the opening of “Fort Apache – The Bronx.”

  5. “an anti-terrorism drill in Bedford-Stuyvesant”

    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @anon


    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?
     
    Those would be "domestic" or "indigenous" terrorists, you know, locals who blow up their own community.

    This "black" logic makes perfect sense: white cops killed blacks, therefore blacks must go kill Asian and Hispanic cops.

    Or not. Of course, the real criminals are the officer class of this racial-ideological war, starting with de Blasio.

    RIP Officers Lu and Ramos.
    , @anonymous-antimarxist
    @anon

    Yes, but in “Fort Apache – The Bronx.” they at least got shot by none other than Pam Grier.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKFNtxEgnIA

    Ismaaiyl Brinsley probably thought he was on his J-O-B too.

    , @Bugg
    @anon

    Irony is due to Guilani/Bloomberg NYPD policies, Bed Stuy along with a good chunk of north Brooklyn has gone from all black ghetto to hipster havens. Had a Latino client who bought a brownstone a stone's throw from this murder scene in the 1970s for a song and sold it last year to a gentrifier for well over $1.3 million.Another set of black working class guys bough a similar fixer up house around the corner from the site for pennies in the early 2000s and sold it in 2007 for close to a million to a SWPL family. And further said SWPL hipsters would have had nothing to do with such places much less live in them back in the crack war days. Not sure SWPL grasp that their safety in such places is a transitional situation. Instead they pretend the big problem is Evil Whitey the Cop rather than black inner city criminality. And as yesterday shows NYPD is a lot more diverse than even Diblasio's living room. Diblasio is probably livid the cops weren't 2 donkeys named Sullivan and O'Brien.

  6. The odd thing about the racial agitation lately had been that there’s no point to it: the election is in the rear view mirror. Maybe this double murder will finally be a wakeup call?

    How do all those SWPL Mall of America protestors feel now? Sick to their stomachs, maybe.

    How did Bill de Blasio, a leftist who rode his son’s Afro into Gracie Mansion, feel when the NYPD rank and file literally turned their backs on him? http://pix11.com/2014/12/20/video-nypd-officers-turn-away-from-mayor-de-blasio-as-he-enters-police-presser/

    Look at his face after: https://twitter.com/marksimoneny/status/546544049344507904

    Really, the wakeup call should’ve been the hammer murder of the Bosnian in St. Louis, but the national media could bury that. This, they can’t. They can’t even equivocate about motives as the killer was open about them on social media. And other members of the Obama coalition were open about praising him: http://bit.ly/1sKDcAk

    • Replies: @The Z Blog
    @Dave Pinsen

    If you look at liberalism as a religion, as Rousseau imagined it, the post-election tub-thumping makes perfect sense. In fact, the increase in agitation is predictable after a bad election result. There's a book written in the 1960's called When Prophesy Fails that does a good job documenting how cults evolve in the face of disconfirmation. The current liberal-democrat coalition is going through the same process.

    Think of it this way. The zeal of zebra finds itself under assault by lions. They don't give up on the idea of the zebra herd and run off in different directions. Instead they cluster closer together. That's what's happening with the Left. As their influence wanes, they become more intense in their proselytizing. It's why the mild progressivism of the mid-60's ended in riots and then terrorism in the 70's.

    We're in the shooting pigs phase now.

  7. @Education Realist
    As sad as this is, I have been distracted by the cosmic irony of this black thug randomly picking two cops who aren't just not white, aren't just Asian and Hispanic, but have names so ethnic that SNL writers would reject them as just asking for trouble.

    Replies: @Anon, @anonymous-antimarxist

    Yes.

  8. Praise be to Rand Paul for singing kumbaya with the lion of the Black Party, Al Sharpton!

  9. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I think your strategy could work to an extent. But I don’t entirely agree…

    I think what is bothering me is the fact that I look at a lot of Asians and Hispanics and see that they do have ALOT in common with blacks. Even upper class Asians, I look at them as being black.

    Blacks prey on weak whites like predators, and so do hispanics and asians they just do it more intelligently instead of in your face murder.

    It’s a good strategy to make snarky little comments if your running for an election, certainly better than Rand Paul being a dip.

    I had a bet going about an upper class Asian to a white conservative who was saying ‘oh no this person is great blah blah’ and I was right. The Asian ended up behaving EXACTLY like I said they would. (Asian woman having an affair with a liberal ‘Asian women are full of love’ white male behind her asian husband’s back)

    I think you want to keep Asians away from your party. I think somehow getting Asians to actually consider themselves black would be FAR FAR FAR More fortuitous for whites then anything else.

    I’ve seen East Asians identify as black…go the whole white liberal lady bit…then get rejected by blacks…but Instead of being allies of our group…they become a steadfast member of the Liberal White Crowd who don’t actually hang with blacks but say they do lol

    I think a better strategy would be to get those types of Asians to stay with the black crowd. They never are going to be ‘Conservative’ they just join the White Liberal Crowd and Strengthen Them.

    So that’s why I think your theory is good for snarky comments, but wrong as an actual strategy.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Anon

    Hispanics acting black, yes. Asians, particularly Chinese and Japanese, no way. They are more like swpl.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  10. anon • Disclaimer says:

    More thoughts…

    See Black Men are predators…they pick out the weakest white women…inebriated Hannah Graham…you can actually watch the guy test white girls until he finds an appropriately ‘injured’ victim.

    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the ‘sexual kill.’ Asians don’t actually murder people like black men…but the end result is no white children which is the same result.

    Also, Asians are very childlike…in a more intelligent way then blacks…but that child like attitude is still there and very noticeable when you are overseas.

    A study came out saying that Asians don’t get bored quickly…that’s not a complement in this day age. What it means is they are possibly more susceptible to Propaganda than whites. And that is last type of Gene/Personality you want to ad to your white party.

    Then they are ethnocentric amongst themselves…and the only way they would give Steve Sailer a job is if he had an asian wife or was single and considered ‘prey.’

    So I think making them vote for you is one thing…but joining with them is another.

    A fair warning 🙂

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @anon


    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the ‘sexual kill.’
     
    You want to elaborate on that and tell us all the steps so we be on the look out for those female Asian sexual predators?

    You seem to have very little real experience with Asians.
    , @David R. Merridale
    @anon

    See Black Men are predators…they pick out the weakest white women…inebriated Hannah Graham…you can actually watch the guy test white girls until he finds an appropriately ‘injured’ victim.

    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the ‘sexual kill.’ Asians don’t actually murder people like black men…but the end result is no white children which is the same result.


    WTF

    Replies: @snorlax

    , @Michelle
    @anon

    Anon, you are full of bull pucky and know diddley squat about Asians!

  11. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, just look at the America of the 1950s.
    Blacks knew firmly and full well that the white man was boss.
    Women knew full well of their secondary status.
    Asiatics were, in fact, legallly denied citizenship of the USA and even residency of the USA.
    All of the above was swept away by one force – the Democratic Party. For whatever reason, white men the undoubted masters of 1950s America did not or could not effect any backlash or counter offensive and so they basically abdicated their leadership position allowing all these formerly subservient groups to boss them around. The Democrats did all this. Now after losing power, it will be wealth that will be ‘redistributed’.
    Look, the Democrats have given their favored constituencies an enormous amount much more than their great grand mothers ever thought would be humanly possible. Don’t you think it would be crazy for the favored people to ditch their benefactors their guardians their protectors who did so much for them in the past and will do so much more in the future?
    I mean if white men actually had mounted an effective backlash back in the day do you really seriously think they would have given up their power and leadership?
    Do you think for one moment that they would have let blacks raise merry hellbwith impunity, allow themselves to be bossed around by women, allowed asiatics of all description to settle in the USA, allowed the Mexican takeover?
    To it all the beneficiaries massively owe the Democrats.

  12. @anon
    "an anti-terrorism drill in Bedford-Stuyvesant"

    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @anonymous-antimarxist, @Bugg

    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?

    Those would be “domestic” or “indigenous” terrorists, you know, locals who blow up their own community.

    This “black” logic makes perfect sense: white cops killed blacks, therefore blacks must go kill Asian and Hispanic cops.

    Or not. Of course, the real criminals are the officer class of this racial-ideological war, starting with de Blasio.

    RIP Officers Lu and Ramos.

  13. I guess the Leftists will use this as an opportunity to rail against Southern Gun Culture. Because they can always find a way to Blame Whitey. (Just like many of Steve’s readers can always find a way to Blame the Jews.)

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @sabril

    Just like that, Sabril. Just like that. Yup, with just as much basis in reality, too, yes? Because Jews have never done anything wrong? I've noticed this crop up lately. Maybe it was around before, but I've noticed it lately: black hate for whitey is just like Gentile hate for Jews; an intellectually inferior group railing against their betters.

    I trust it goes without saying that I find your variant, or the original itself, to be unconvincing at best.

  14. What’s odd about tonight is that the left wing is near silent on Twitter. The left wing media elite from Vox to Coates has tweeted little to nothing about this story. I think they know they really did it this time.

    • Replies: @J. Smith
    @Ed

    The blood debt has been repaid. Two non-blacks for one-black.

    Replies: @SFG, @snorlax

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Ed

    Has Charles Blow tweeted anything (he's blocked me)?

    Replies: @Ed

  15. @Ed
    What's odd about tonight is that the left wing is near silent on Twitter. The left wing media elite from Vox to Coates has tweeted little to nothing about this story. I think they know they really did it this time.

    Replies: @J. Smith, @Dave Pinsen

    The blood debt has been repaid. Two non-blacks for one-black.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @J. Smith

    Actually, it's an eye for an eye--remember Ferguson? I guess he can't travel to Missouri to even things out properly.

    It used to be a very, very bad idea to attack cops, but with De Blasio controlling the NYPD...

    In my younger years, early Giuliani, I would thank the cops every time I saw them for cleaning up my hometown. They seemed to appreciate it.

    Replies: @NOTA

    , @snorlax
    @J. Smith

    After the Rodney King verdict, the blacks of LA rioted and killed 30 non-blacks. This was insufficient revenge; as several of the OJ jurors explained, their acquittal of Simpson was as "revenge" for the Rodney King verdict. So one black getting some boo-boos is worth the lives of 32 non-blacks.

  16. @anon
    "an anti-terrorism drill in Bedford-Stuyvesant"

    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @anonymous-antimarxist, @Bugg

    Yes, but in “Fort Apache – The Bronx.” they at least got shot by none other than Pam Grier.

    Ismaaiyl Brinsley probably thought he was on his J-O-B too.

  17. That’s the thing about racial conflict – you don’t choose sides, the sides choose you.
    The train of events, from Trayvon to Ferguson to the Bosnian guy to Garner to this cop killing, has been an utter disaster for ‘progressives’ because many of those who’ve chosen to sit on the sidelines, fingers in the ears and heads in the sand, are having their side chosen for them.

  18. Steve,

    In this case, you could be even a bit more specific. The Democratic party is becoming the Black and/or Muslim party. Because what minority group most closely mirrors the Black underclass in believing its entitlement and self identified victimization should nonetheless result in its political triumph through intimidation and protest than the Islamists?

    That is sure to turn off not just aspiring middle class East Asians and Hispanics, who lets be honest usually live closest to the black underclass, but also large numbers of South Asians(including Burmese and Thai) who are deeply aware of Jihadist atrocities from back home. Also include the million of Christian Arabs and North Africans, who thanks in large part to Obama, no longer have a home.

    It might even encourage a small percentage of TWMNBN to stop lavishly funding the SPLC, ADL, NAACP….

  19. The electoral benefit from this encouraging black grievance is ambiguous at best. They really believe this nonsense.

  20. Any thoughts on how the Hillary 2016 machine is contemplating how to spin this, Steve?

    They do have the better part of two years to temporarily reframe the Dems as the “Where Da White Women At?” party.

    This would almost certainly still appeal to the Kill Whitey coalition, while proving somewhat less volatile than inciting the vibrancy mob to go out and kill.

  21. @J. Smith
    @Ed

    The blood debt has been repaid. Two non-blacks for one-black.

    Replies: @SFG, @snorlax

    Actually, it’s an eye for an eye–remember Ferguson? I guess he can’t travel to Missouri to even things out properly.

    It used to be a very, very bad idea to attack cops, but with De Blasio controlling the NYPD…

    In my younger years, early Giuliani, I would thank the cops every time I saw them for cleaning up my hometown. They seemed to appreciate it.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    @SFG

    The perp killed himself, so it's not like the NYPD could do much to him. If he hadn't, they certainly would have killed him.

  22. @Education Realist
    As sad as this is, I have been distracted by the cosmic irony of this black thug randomly picking two cops who aren't just not white, aren't just Asian and Hispanic, but have names so ethnic that SNL writers would reject them as just asking for trouble.

    Replies: @Anon, @anonymous-antimarxist

    Possibility that Ismaaiyl Brinsley had both racist and Jihadist motivations for the killings.

    Brinsley saw two non black policing a largely black neighborhood so he shot them.

    Brinsley saw two infidel or haram cops patrolling a black, to be Islamic, neighborhood so he shot them.

    Democrats can’t help doubling down on double plus crazy.

  23. @Ed
    What's odd about tonight is that the left wing is near silent on Twitter. The left wing media elite from Vox to Coates has tweeted little to nothing about this story. I think they know they really did it this time.

    Replies: @J. Smith, @Dave Pinsen

    Has Charles Blow tweeted anything (he’s blocked me)?

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Dave Pinsen

    He blocked me too but someone retweeted a tweet I saw from him. Something to the effect the protests don't stop.

  24. NYC and the Left need a dose of reality. The NYC police should go on strike, all of them, for two whole weeks. In fact, they should leave the City and go somewhere nice, like Cuba.

    Failing that, they should refuse to provide police protection to De Blasio and his family and to all the rich socialists in their penthouses along Central Park.

    Let chaos reign. Let the Progressives suffer.

  25. Lefty network Fusion, which has been beating the drum hard on Ferguson and Eric Garner for months, says cop killer’s motive “unclear”: https://twitter.com/thisisfusion/status/546660139747774464

  26. @sabril
    I guess the Leftists will use this as an opportunity to rail against Southern Gun Culture. Because they can always find a way to Blame Whitey. (Just like many of Steve's readers can always find a way to Blame the Jews.)

    Replies: @Hunsdon

    Just like that, Sabril. Just like that. Yup, with just as much basis in reality, too, yes? Because Jews have never done anything wrong? I’ve noticed this crop up lately. Maybe it was around before, but I’ve noticed it lately: black hate for whitey is just like Gentile hate for Jews; an intellectually inferior group railing against their betters.

    I trust it goes without saying that I find your variant, or the original itself, to be unconvincing at best.

  27. “After months of the White House, the Democratic Party, and the prestige press trying to angry up the black vote, things like this were bound to happen. … Too bad Lu, Ramos, and Begic had to die for the crime of being non-black, but it was all in the good cause of trying to boost black turnout to benefit Democratic politicians.” I must be getting onto your wavelength, Mr iSteve; that was my reaction too.

    No doubt today’s web will be full of lefties claiming that they encouraged only non-violent violence.

  28. anon said:

    “an anti-terrorism drill in Bedford-Stuyvesant”

    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?

    None. This is just easy and available OT money with federal dollars.

  29. Al Sharpton, whose gall never ceases to amazes, declared himself “outraged” by the murder of the two police officers. But Sharpton is a proud supporter of Michael Brown, who tried to murder a police officer. Is Al telling us if Brown had succeeded, he would have been outraged at Brown instead of outraged at Darren Wilson for defending himself?

    Sharpton, the sleazy opportunist, is desperately trying to walk it back a little. He’s dreading a call from the president saying, “Al, you know I love you, but I think it would be best if we stop seeing each other for awhile.”

  30. Dahlia says:

    I’m not keen on the Black party strategy. It just isn’t Christian. Think me naive, but I believe Machiavellianism is more fun, than effective. I love Roger Stone’s work, but the most important thing he did was the Brooks Brothers Riot which was straight up hand-to-hand combat.

    BTW, Carol Swain has made some very good observations. She retweeted another’s tweet (black man, I think) wondering why the two cops let this guy get so close. Worries the message is being sent to everyone that black men are untrustworthy.

  31. @Dave Pinsen
    The odd thing about the racial agitation lately had been that there's no point to it: the election is in the rear view mirror. Maybe this double murder will finally be a wakeup call?

    How do all those SWPL Mall of America protestors feel now? Sick to their stomachs, maybe.

    How did Bill de Blasio, a leftist who rode his son's Afro into Gracie Mansion, feel when the NYPD rank and file literally turned their backs on him? http://pix11.com/2014/12/20/video-nypd-officers-turn-away-from-mayor-de-blasio-as-he-enters-police-presser/

    Look at his face after: https://twitter.com/marksimoneny/status/546544049344507904

    Really, the wakeup call should've been the hammer murder of the Bosnian in St. Louis, but the national media could bury that. This, they can't. They can't even equivocate about motives as the killer was open about them on social media. And other members of the Obama coalition were open about praising him: http://bit.ly/1sKDcAk

    Replies: @The Z Blog

    If you look at liberalism as a religion, as Rousseau imagined it, the post-election tub-thumping makes perfect sense. In fact, the increase in agitation is predictable after a bad election result. There’s a book written in the 1960’s called When Prophesy Fails that does a good job documenting how cults evolve in the face of disconfirmation. The current liberal-democrat coalition is going through the same process.

    Think of it this way. The zeal of zebra finds itself under assault by lions. They don’t give up on the idea of the zebra herd and run off in different directions. Instead they cluster closer together. That’s what’s happening with the Left. As their influence wanes, they become more intense in their proselytizing. It’s why the mild progressivism of the mid-60’s ended in riots and then terrorism in the 70’s.

    We’re in the shooting pigs phase now.

  32. Now watch to see how this savage murder will turn into an “isolated incident.” On the other hand, the deaths of the Gentle Giant and of his cigarette-hustling gentler uncle were manifestations of systemic suppression and deep-seated ancient animus toward colors.

    Just watch.

    It’s very cruel what the Democrats are doing to black people. Black people in America have serious problems they need to fix, and the Democrats are not permitting the discussion of those problems.

  33. The killing spree started, like most killing sprees, with the assailant killing family, in this case his girlfriend. It is interesting to me that she is almost always left out of the media coverage. Do black lives matter? Then the assailant moves on to people they hate, which for most of the usually white assailants is their employer and selected coworkers. In this case the people the shooter hated were not coworkers, or the public at large but the police, possibly because living off petty crime the shooter only interacted with police and victims. Police were in a sense his employer and victims his customers.

    The news coverage omitting the girlfriend is why the Sailor Strategy won’t succeed. Note how in other spree killings that the shooter might have hated his boss is never termed an assassination or even given political importance (except in the book ‘Going Postal’). When Nixon implemented the Southern Strategy he unified a broad spectrum of whites. Not just unionized government workers and the wealthy but ordinary private sector unionized workers, plus small business owners, and white property owners. Those private sector workers are basically gone, replaced by a small number of professionals that got lucky or worked in protected professions like dentistry. The small business owners are basically gone too, replaced by marginal immigrant businesses that employ illegal aliens.

    I think you will find large numbers of non unionized, non government young whites assimilating into Hispanic culture. Ending up with an increasingly pampered elderly white elite and hopeless blacks against a working population of Hispanics. I wonder who will win?

    Going Postal: Rage, Murder, and Rebellion: From Reagan’s Workplaces to Clinton’s Columbine and Beyond Paperback – November 16, 2005

    • Replies: @WhatEvvs
    @George


    The killing spree started, like most killing sprees, with the assailant killing family, in this case his girlfriend
     
    The young lady survived, thank God.

    I was in Brooklyn yesterday at the time of the shooting, celebrating with friends the Dyker Heights Christmas lights, and had pizza afterwards.

    I'm in a state of shock, but I have enough presence of mind to think that this will destroy whatever cred De Blasio has. He is too associated with Al Sharpton to survive politically.

    I hate the Republican party, but I have some free advice. They should plaster pictures of Sharpton and Obama everywhere.
  34. Will the Nobel Peace Prize winner say anything about this just like he interjected himself into the Gates/Zimmerman/Garner affairs? Probably not and if he did he’d cleverly talk out of both sides of his mouth as is his usual practice, an act that’s gotten really stale by now. The drums seem to have been beating louder and louder these days. As has been noted, a large part of the agitation comes from white lefty-SJW types. They probably really don’t care about blacks as people seeing as how most of them seem to make sure not to live around them. However, blacks are for them a vehicle of change and roiling the waters, basically just cannon fodder. Years later the SJWs will have moved on up to better careers, better homes and neighborhoods, sipping better wines and eating great food. They’ll leave the blacks in the lurch right back where they started from, holding the rubber chicken.

  35. Steve, your idea of rebranding them Dems as the party of blacks is absolutely correct. Richard Nixon, for all his faults, did this with the Jews and would easily outmaneuver the Dems by employing your strategy.

  36. @anon
    "an anti-terrorism drill in Bedford-Stuyvesant"

    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?

    Replies: @Twinkie, @anonymous-antimarxist, @Bugg

    Irony is due to Guilani/Bloomberg NYPD policies, Bed Stuy along with a good chunk of north Brooklyn has gone from all black ghetto to hipster havens. Had a Latino client who bought a brownstone a stone’s throw from this murder scene in the 1970s for a song and sold it last year to a gentrifier for well over $1.3 million.Another set of black working class guys bough a similar fixer up house around the corner from the site for pennies in the early 2000s and sold it in 2007 for close to a million to a SWPL family. And further said SWPL hipsters would have had nothing to do with such places much less live in them back in the crack war days. Not sure SWPL grasp that their safety in such places is a transitional situation. Instead they pretend the big problem is Evil Whitey the Cop rather than black inner city criminality. And as yesterday shows NYPD is a lot more diverse than even Diblasio’s living room. Diblasio is probably livid the cops weren’t 2 donkeys named Sullivan and O’Brien.

  37. I’m guessing your delay on posting on the shooting were

    1) to let a few facts manifest and
    2) come up with a zippy, humorous and relevant headline

    Well, you certainly succeeded at the second.

  38. I took a glance at Little Green Footballs and The Daily Kos Sunday morning and they seem oblivious to what happened in Brooklyn the day before. Maybe later.

  39. The test will be 2016, will blacks show up with numbers anything like that of 2008 or 2012? Most Whites don’t appreciate fully how important Obama was to blacks–he is their Messiah, they have photos of him and Michelle and their girls in their living rooms, there’s a religious connection. What this say about blacks is hugely important (their delusional world-views, their ridiculous sense of oppression, their inability to see how much worse things have become for them these last eight years, etc.), but with really White Hilary or Joe as the nominee in 2016, what will blacks do? My guess is that there will be Obama fatigue among democrats generally, a lost sense of purpose, but among blacks it will be much worse. The democratic party for them DOES mean explicitly the black party and it won’t any longer with Obama gone. Look for them to stay home and protest against the return of the pasty Whites as the face of THEIR party.

    Will it be enough to keep a democrat from winning in 2016? I doubt it. The raw numbers just don’t work for Republicans anymore unless the Republicans turn explicitly White (the Sailer Strategy), and they won’t. Because in the end Asians and Hispanics may be uncomfortable with being junior partners in the black party, but 1) they’ve convinced themselves that this is a temporary arrangement (in due course they’ll be in charge) and 2) much important, their hatred and fear of Whites trumps all.

    • Replies: @Jonathan Silber
    @OsRazor

    Look for them [Black voters] to stay home and protest against the return of the pasty Whites as the face of THEIR party.

    Could a Black Democratic candidate for Veep bring out the Black vote?

    , @Lot
    @OsRazor


    The test will be 2016, will blacks show up with numbers anything like that of 2008 or 2012?
     
    Nope, it will be the white vote that decides the election, just like it always is. Obama didn't win because he did well with blacks, but because he did better with whites than Kerry and Gore. The high black turnout just ran up the electoral college score but was completely unnecessary.

    Remember, an extra 0.01% of the vote in Florida and Gore would have won, and an extra 1% in Ohio and Kerry would have won. That's all Hillary needs to do in 2016, and why she'll probably win.

    She's going to be anointed in her primary while the GOP will have a long bloody mess, and then she'll get historic turnout of single women. Black vote will probably drop off a bit, but black TV and radio, as well as robocalls, will feature Obama begging them to turn out to protect "our legacy."
  40. Steve,

    Asiatics and Hispanics are some of the primary movers in the ethnic cleansing of blacks from New York City.

  41. @J. Smith
    @Ed

    The blood debt has been repaid. Two non-blacks for one-black.

    Replies: @SFG, @snorlax

    After the Rodney King verdict, the blacks of LA rioted and killed 30 non-blacks. This was insufficient revenge; as several of the OJ jurors explained, their acquittal of Simpson was as “revenge” for the Rodney King verdict. So one black getting some boo-boos is worth the lives of 32 non-blacks.

  42. This “black” logic makes perfect sense: white cops killed blacks, therefore blacks must go kill Asian and Hispanic cops.

    On the contrary, the logic seemed to be, “Cops killed blacks. Cops must pay.”

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Anonymous


    On the contrary, the logic seemed to be, “Cops killed blacks. Cops must pay.”
     
    Oh, really? Is that why there are anti-cop riots every time a black cop kills a black criminal?

    No, there is only hysteria when non-black cops kill black criminals.
  43. anon • Disclaimer says:

    Blacks were laughing and clapping at the scene:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882125/Police-2-NYC-cops-shot-car-critically-injured.html

    Do you notice how the narrative did not name the race of the shooter, and said he was lone, crazed – as if all the left’s instigation had nothing to do with it.

    I heard the marchers on the bridge – lots of white college kids radicalized by marxists professors- chanting kill cop slogans –

    Lastly, the police turned their back when Deblasio arrived at the hosptial:

    http://pix11.com/2014/12/20/video-nypd-officers-turn-away-from-mayor-de-blasio-as-he-enters-police-presser/

    WOnder if the police will stand down after this and NYC returns to 70s era chaos.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon


    WOnder if the police will stand down after this and NYC returns to 70s era chaos.
     
    You bet, muchacho.

    Email circulated among cops: 2 cars respond to every call
  44. @anon
    Blacks were laughing and clapping at the scene:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2882125/Police-2-NYC-cops-shot-car-critically-injured.html

    Do you notice how the narrative did not name the race of the shooter, and said he was lone, crazed - as if all the left's instigation had nothing to do with it.

    I heard the marchers on the bridge - lots of white college kids radicalized by marxists professors- chanting kill cop slogans -

    Lastly, the police turned their back when Deblasio arrived at the hosptial:

    http://pix11.com/2014/12/20/video-nypd-officers-turn-away-from-mayor-de-blasio-as-he-enters-police-presser/

    WOnder if the police will stand down after this and NYC returns to 70s era chaos.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    WOnder if the police will stand down after this and NYC returns to 70s era chaos.

    You bet, muchacho.

    Email circulated among cops: 2 cars respond to every call

  45. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve
    do you REALLY expect the left the regret anything? or admit they are wrong?
    They’ll let this boil over, pick up the megaphone and have at it again.

    What do they have to gain by admitting they wrong? nothing. It would be the first step in giving up moral authority and power, and that they will never do.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    What do they have to gain by admitting they wrong? nothing. It would be the first step in giving up moral authority and power, and that they will never do.
     
    Trotsky said that the morality of the Left is determined by the answer to the following question: Is it good for the revolution?
  46. It’s very cruel what the Democrats are doing to black people.

    Yes, and the primary cruelty is importing alien races who take their jobs, livelihoods, and dignity and push them out of their historic living places.

  47. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:

    Murdered NYPD officers Wenjian Lu and Rafael Ramos

    Is it Lu or Liu? The two are different names.

  48. People like deBlasio don’t care – the guy is a hardened Marxist and probably nuts as well. The cops are not their political base – it’s white libs and blacks who despise the police that are. So he’s sitting pretty at the moment.

    As for his base – progressive whites and blacks, the murder of the cops is cause for a celebration.

    The only downside for the Democrats is if their people start replicating these cop murders across the country and turn the police against them to the point they simply sit out 911 calls for help. Thereby turning the cities into giant blue light special.

    As for people like Obama and Holder, they don’t like cops(except those that protect their privileged hides) and have made their views quite explicit.

    Personally I wouldn’t blame the LEO’s for sitting out 911 calls in our major urban areas. Let the Democrats and white progressives police the communities themselves.

  49. Meanwhile Vox Day is sounding like he’s masturbating over dead cops so he can hawk Lind’s book. Guy has never picked up a rifle before in his life or even lives in the US but you’d think he was the second coming of Giap through osmosis or something.

    • Replies: @The most deplorable one
    @As If

    You got a woodie for Vox Day? Sure you are not Andrew Marston?

    Replies: @as if

  50. WhatEvvs [AKA "Bemused"] says:
    @George
    The killing spree started, like most killing sprees, with the assailant killing family, in this case his girlfriend. It is interesting to me that she is almost always left out of the media coverage. Do black lives matter? Then the assailant moves on to people they hate, which for most of the usually white assailants is their employer and selected coworkers. In this case the people the shooter hated were not coworkers, or the public at large but the police, possibly because living off petty crime the shooter only interacted with police and victims. Police were in a sense his employer and victims his customers.

    The news coverage omitting the girlfriend is why the Sailor Strategy won't succeed. Note how in other spree killings that the shooter might have hated his boss is never termed an assassination or even given political importance (except in the book 'Going Postal'). When Nixon implemented the Southern Strategy he unified a broad spectrum of whites. Not just unionized government workers and the wealthy but ordinary private sector unionized workers, plus small business owners, and white property owners. Those private sector workers are basically gone, replaced by a small number of professionals that got lucky or worked in protected professions like dentistry. The small business owners are basically gone too, replaced by marginal immigrant businesses that employ illegal aliens.

    I think you will find large numbers of non unionized, non government young whites assimilating into Hispanic culture. Ending up with an increasingly pampered elderly white elite and hopeless blacks against a working population of Hispanics. I wonder who will win?

    Going Postal: Rage, Murder, and Rebellion: From Reagan's Workplaces to Clinton's Columbine and Beyond Paperback – November 16, 2005

    http://www.amazon.com/Going-Postal-Rebellion-Workplaces-Columbine/dp/1932360824

    Replies: @WhatEvvs

    The killing spree started, like most killing sprees, with the assailant killing family, in this case his girlfriend

    The young lady survived, thank God.

    I was in Brooklyn yesterday at the time of the shooting, celebrating with friends the Dyker Heights Christmas lights, and had pizza afterwards.

    I’m in a state of shock, but I have enough presence of mind to think that this will destroy whatever cred De Blasio has. He is too associated with Al Sharpton to survive politically.

    I hate the Republican party, but I have some free advice. They should plaster pictures of Sharpton and Obama everywhere.

  51. One other thing. The Republicans won’t benefit from this. They aren’t the party of the white middle and working class, but of the white elites. The GOP bosses don’t like their politicians who run on a populist platform that rallies the lower classes to the party and gives them a say. No they prefer having patrons like Goldman-Sachs, IBM, Wal-Mart and rich men like Adelson, Dimon, Gates and Zuckerberg having a say.

    They wouldn’t be caught dead associating with Duck Commander or Charlie the middle-aged IT dude.

    The GOP despite it’s faux overtures to whites, is in reality more than happy to send them packing to the poor house with the support of off-shoring industry, importing foreign workers(both legal and illegal) to replace American workers.

    About the only they do that is half-way decent is support the 2nd amendment, beyond that they are useless to whites.

    The party should be allowed to die.

  52. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @anon
    More thoughts...

    See Black Men are predators...they pick out the weakest white women...inebriated Hannah Graham...you can actually watch the guy test white girls until he finds an appropriately 'injured' victim.

    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the 'sexual kill.' Asians don't actually murder people like black men...but the end result is no white children which is the same result.

    Also, Asians are very childlike...in a more intelligent way then blacks...but that child like attitude is still there and very noticeable when you are overseas.

    A study came out saying that Asians don't get bored quickly...that's not a complement in this day age. What it means is they are possibly more susceptible to Propaganda than whites. And that is last type of Gene/Personality you want to ad to your white party.

    Then they are ethnocentric amongst themselves...and the only way they would give Steve Sailer a job is if he had an asian wife or was single and considered 'prey.'

    So I think making them vote for you is one thing...but joining with them is another.

    A fair warning :)

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @David R. Merridale, @Michelle

    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the ‘sexual kill.’

    You want to elaborate on that and tell us all the steps so we be on the look out for those female Asian sexual predators?

    You seem to have very little real experience with Asians.

  53. Greg Johnson has a very insightful article:
    Ferguson, Garner, & the End of Gentrification
    http://www.counter-currents.com/2014/12/burn-this-bitch-down/#more-51631

    He details a lot of Sailer themes, white liberal oppression of blacks in the process of gentrification. He details an interracial gay couple that buys a big house in central Atlanta. And they are appalled at the behavior they see in the hood, and complain about it. But they they are gay AND interracial so then they get a pass from listeners where a white straight couple would be racist. They begin to call the police over noise, speeding, garbage, petty crime. And the police come to bust heavy on the blacks. Blacks then are forced out by prices and also to seek areas more tolerant of black tendencies.

    He states other reduction stats about crime in big cities are due to moving the blacks out and the way this reduction has happened is via harsh policing. The policing further aids in regentrification and then white norms are imposed on the area.

    And in the suburban places where the blacks are forced because of price to move they encounter existent white norms that are imposed by the police.

    So now with Obama and Holder forcing the police to back off, and now the police probably being content to back off, and like Steve says, to retreat to the doughnut shop, then Gentrification halts and the urban liberals are now trapped in the firing zone of the city with high numbers of blacks, Chicago, Philly, New York, Baltimore, and this multiculturalism comes back to eat them alive.

    So then they are forced to accept that the only buddies they have in the world are whites. So the end result is that Ferguson, Garner, the riots, Obama/Holder, et all, is an end victory for realism.

  54. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I’m not sure we’ll have to worry about a black party for some time. To win, Hillary has to kneecap the Obamabots, because they’re controlling the party apparatus and the Obamabots don’t care for her that much. Hillary’s going to want her own people controlling the levers, and she’ll stage a coup among the Dems and purge its leftmost wing. That’s a matter of practical politics. Make no mistake, the Dems are going to start a quiet civil war among themselves–the real radicals aren’t going to leave easily–and move the party more to the center soon. Hillary knows she’s not getting the votes of the hard-core lefties. She absolutely needs the moderates and whatever Republicans she can peel off to win.

    There’s a wing of the Dems–you could call it the Rahm Emanuel wing–that’s getting sick of their own constituency, and who say one thing but do another. They’ll talk about supporting blacks but try to get rid of them in reality. Some inner-city pols are attempting to deport their black populations, and this will have the effect of diluting and voiding the black vote among Republican stronghold districts and un-gerrymandering black bloc congressional districts to the point where their political power diminishes.

    There is one thing that could change all this: A Hugo Chavez-type racial mix running for president. The moment a black Mexican runs, we’re all in trouble. He could easily put together a massive coalition the way Obama did by putting together the votes of blacks, Hispanics, and white libtards. He’d also be as corrupt as Chavez with a constituency that puts its fingers in its ears saying ‘naah naah naah can’t hear you’ when you’re trying to bring him to justice.

  55. http://nypost.com/2014/12/19/vandal-who-wrote-nypd-kills-on-nyc-bridge-sought/

    It’s probably VEW:

    http://animalnewyork.com/tag/vew/

    Nice timing, VEW.

    This is Freddie’s Fashion Mart all over again. The maniac who took Al Sharpton’s words a little too much to heart in that atrocity killed seven Hispanics and one black, all because a black church was squeezing a Jewish subtenant.

  56. New York mayor Bill de Blasio said he has given his mixed-race son “The Talk,” you know, the one all blacks give their children about how dangerous the police are.

    Following the Garner decision, de Blasio said he and his wife,
    Chirlane, have had to have painful conversations with their teenage son,
    Dante, about ‘how to take special care with any encounter he may have with
    police officers.’

    ‘I’ve had to worry over the years, Chirlane has had to worry: Is Dante
    safe each night?’ de Blasio said earlier this month after the grand jury’s
    decision. ‘And not just from some of the painful realities of crime and
    violence in some of our neighborhoods but safe from the very people they
    want to have faith in as their protectors.’

    Meanwhile, in other news, the teenaged son of Chicago mayor Rahm Emanuel was mugged and assaulted right outside the family home–and not by the police!

    The teenage son of Mayor Rahm Emanuel was the victim of a robbery
    outside the mayor’s Lakeview home Friday night, a spokesperson from the
    mayor’s office confirms.

    Police were called to the 4200 block of North Hermitage at 10:05 p.m.
    Friday for a report of a robbery on the street where there would normally
    already be a police presence.

    Emanuel’s 17-year-old son went out to make a phone call when he was jumped
    by two men who stole the teen’s cell phone.

    A police report obtained by the Chicago Tribune says that he was put in a
    chokehold by one of the suspects and punched in the face by the other.
    Emanuel reportedly suffered a fat lip and chipped tooth.

    The article notes that the robbers were unarmed. In current Newspeak, the adjective “unarmed” applied to black teens means “wouldn’t hurt a fly, don’t get so uptight.”

  57. I can’t believe what a terrible mayor de Blasio is. Freaking David Dinkins was better than this.

  58. A Chinese-American friend of mine unabashedly refers to Filipinos as the Asian Mexicans.

  59. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Most Asians seem to be over-educated in very liberal institutions and tend to be relatively insulated from blacks, like white liberals. So I don’t know how much this would have an effect.

    Incidentally, I think the only place I’ve seen Asians in non-ethnic blue collar work like Chinese restaurants and laundries has been the NYPD. You never see Asian cops but if you spend some time in NYC you do see Asian cops here and there. I’ve never been to San Fran but I imagine there are Chinese cops there as well.

  60. About 5 minutes ago in Sausalito, I passed a blonde woman holding up a sign which said, “white silence = violence.” She looked kinda scraggly so I guess she’s not part of the Patagonia crowd.

  61. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:

    NYT blamed the ‘culture of hate’ in Dallas for the killing of Kennedy even though a commie did it.

    I wonder if it has anything to say about the culture of hatred in cities and campuses that led to black riots in Ferguson, the killing of two cops in NY, and the crazed hysteria at UVA.

    Or, is it a case of “our paranoia is cool, your paranoia(even when it’s not paranoia) is fool”?

    Power seems to be about who has the privilege to be paranoid and who doesn’t.

    Whoops. Sweet sweetback’s badass megaphone.

    • Replies: @dcite
    @Priss Factor

    No, a "commie" didn't do it. Even Congress admitted that in 1978 when they agreed JFK was murdered by a network of people--conspiracy. LHO was in the employ of the CIA. These things have been hiding in plain sight and so well researched, no one with any knowledge of the event believes LHO shot anyone much less all by his lonesome (Lone Nut accusation--Modus Operandi of this group). Lone nuts who get killed by old mafia connected buddies can't tell tales.

    Please, enough of this ignorance and no name calling. When you actually ask intelligent questions and do research, you find out the world is not always as the NYT, the WaPo, or the WC, tell it.

    Anyone who dismisses that assassination -- or most 20th c. political murders -- as one little "commie" did it, deserves all the lies we are fed every day by the MSM. Which is what we are discussing here, and why I am always surprised at the childish acceptance of "conspiracy theory" as an insult. That is what "they" want you to think. Basically so you don't think.

  62. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    Steve likes to make the ‘Manichaen’ analogy of the twin parties of American politics. Literally the black party and the white party.
    Can’t see it myself, rather I see it as the ‘party of the totem pole’ vs the ‘party of the plutocrats’.
    Simplifying this down further, it’s the party of the yoni – the second holiest image on the totem pole vs the party of the lingam – the party of the thrust and gush of money power.
    If Steve may forgive my profanity, and allow me to use the true words of Chaucer, one of the earliest and greatest of English poets ’tis the difference between a fool and a knave, a prick and a quent’. Or in the phrase beloved by modern agony aunts ‘an erect penis has no conscience’ ie the Republicans care not whit one beyond the orgiastic explosion of the ecstasy of stored wealth.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    @Anonymous


    Can’t see it myself, rather I see it as the ‘party of the totem pole’ vs the ‘party of the plutocrats’.
     
    Give me a break. It's a party of the plutocrats versus another party of the plutocrats.

    One pretends to represent non-Whites and non-productive & non-reproductive Whites.

    The other pretends to represent productive Whites.

    But they're both controlled by money.
  63. @OsRazor
    The test will be 2016, will blacks show up with numbers anything like that of 2008 or 2012? Most Whites don't appreciate fully how important Obama was to blacks--he is their Messiah, they have photos of him and Michelle and their girls in their living rooms, there's a religious connection. What this say about blacks is hugely important (their delusional world-views, their ridiculous sense of oppression, their inability to see how much worse things have become for them these last eight years, etc.), but with really White Hilary or Joe as the nominee in 2016, what will blacks do? My guess is that there will be Obama fatigue among democrats generally, a lost sense of purpose, but among blacks it will be much worse. The democratic party for them DOES mean explicitly the black party and it won't any longer with Obama gone. Look for them to stay home and protest against the return of the pasty Whites as the face of THEIR party.

    Will it be enough to keep a democrat from winning in 2016? I doubt it. The raw numbers just don't work for Republicans anymore unless the Republicans turn explicitly White (the Sailer Strategy), and they won't. Because in the end Asians and Hispanics may be uncomfortable with being junior partners in the black party, but 1) they've convinced themselves that this is a temporary arrangement (in due course they'll be in charge) and 2) much important, their hatred and fear of Whites trumps all.

    Replies: @Jonathan Silber, @Lot

    Look for them [Black voters] to stay home and protest against the return of the pasty Whites as the face of THEIR party.

    Could a Black Democratic candidate for Veep bring out the Black vote?

  64. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:

    I still think white NYers are relieved that a black thug killed two minorities than rioted and messed up NY.

    I think a lot of white show of outrage in NY was to preempt black rioting. If whites do nothing, blacks will take over the streets and riot and loot. But if whites come out in big numbers and protest, blacks can only join in the protest along white norms of marching and shouting out slogans WITHOUT the rioting.

    Smother black rage with white ‘understanding’.

  65. I am not sure I buy the stories of blacks clapping. So far, the NY Post has put up at least two cell phone videos taken at the scene by blacks, and I hear and see no evidence of clapping or cheering.

  66. It does seem to me that the SJW/NYT/Obama/Holder crowd have been discovering the limits of the megaphone.

    They can push reality around, but time comes reality pushes back.

    A woman’s cry of rape can never be questioned, and false, vicious accusations ensue.

    A death of a “gentle giant” is trumpeted as proof of police brutality toward blacks, and a tragic assassination of police by a black ensues.

    What’s unraveling, in the minds of decent Americans who care about actual truth and actual justice, is any confidence that the SJW/NYT/Obama/Holder types aren’t malicious, deliberate, liars.

    I’m sure there’s a gut full of disgust out there in real America.

  67. Priss Factor [AKA "dna turtles"] says:

    Lib vs Lib War.

    Libs say we all need to be more empathetic.

    But are the likes of Sabrina Rubin ever empathetic about people she just hates and hates?
    She empathizes with a hysterical liar(Jackie) but feels no empathy/sympathy for real people at UVA.
    Her idea of ’empathy’ about ‘fratboys’ is assuming that each and every one of them is a Nazi rapist.

    Also, what is the least empathetic expression in culture? Rap music. Rap is mainly about attitude, and it says, “I don’t need to read nothing, learn nothing, hear nothing, and told nothing. I don’t need curiosity. I don’t need patience. I don’t need reverence and respect for other things, peoples, cultures, and etc. All I need to do is listen to my voice cuz I know everything cuz I is a badass mofo.”
    A culture where a whole bunch of young guys who won’t even pull their pants up and bother to attend classes think they are the center of the universe cuz whatever spews out of their filthy mouths is supposed da instant truth!!! So much for a culture of empathy.

    Libs say we need more ’empathy’ but then also promote Rap. And idiocies like GIRLS by Lena Dunham. At least narcissism among the beautiful is understandable. It’d be hard not to be narcissistic if one looks like Alain Delon or Claudia Cardinale.
    But now we have a fusion of ultra-narcissism and vulgar egalitarianism, whereby a fat ugly hag like Lena Dunham thinks she’s hot stuff sexually and weight stuff intellectually.

    More craziness: http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2014/12/19/say-what-aclu-sues-ferguson-school-district-for-having-too-many-whites/

  68. @anon
    More thoughts...

    See Black Men are predators...they pick out the weakest white women...inebriated Hannah Graham...you can actually watch the guy test white girls until he finds an appropriately 'injured' victim.

    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the 'sexual kill.' Asians don't actually murder people like black men...but the end result is no white children which is the same result.

    Also, Asians are very childlike...in a more intelligent way then blacks...but that child like attitude is still there and very noticeable when you are overseas.

    A study came out saying that Asians don't get bored quickly...that's not a complement in this day age. What it means is they are possibly more susceptible to Propaganda than whites. And that is last type of Gene/Personality you want to ad to your white party.

    Then they are ethnocentric amongst themselves...and the only way they would give Steve Sailer a job is if he had an asian wife or was single and considered 'prey.'

    So I think making them vote for you is one thing...but joining with them is another.

    A fair warning :)

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @David R. Merridale, @Michelle

    See Black Men are predators…they pick out the weakest white women…inebriated Hannah Graham…you can actually watch the guy test white girls until he finds an appropriately ‘injured’ victim.

    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the ‘sexual kill.’ Asians don’t actually murder people like black men…but the end result is no white children which is the same result.

    WTF

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @David R. Merridale

    I think this guy is British and is confusing the American term "Asian" (meaning East Asian) for the British term "Asian" (meaning South Asian - they get the dregs of Indo-Pakistani society, unlike the upper-class Brahmins who come to America). Either that or he's a bit disturbed.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  69. “Because Jews have never done anything wrong?”

    Lol, nice strawman.

    “black hate for whitey”

    The problem is more about Leftist hate for whitey.

    “Gentile hate for Jews”

    And hate for Jews on both the Right and Left.

    “intellectually inferior group railing against their betters”

    No, it’s more about targeting a convenient scapegoat.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @sabril

    Sabril:

    Thanks for engaging!

    I raised the question about Jews having done nothing wrong because I regard your analog, i.e., Southern gun culture, as practically blameless---and here I am focusing on Southern gun culture as opposed to other Southern cultures.

    I would be happy to enlarge the discussion to Leftist hate for whitey, but limited it to black hate for whitey due to a) the topic of our host's post, and b) the parallel I saw with the "blacks are to whites as whites (Gentiles) are to Jews" meme. If you'd prefer, we can talk about the Left's hate for whitey instead.

    Regarding Gentile hate for Jews being present on both the left and the right, that too is an interesting discussion I'd like to engage in. At first blush, I'd suspect that the Left hates Jews because they are Israeli, and the Right hates Jews because they are not. (But maybe I'm just trying to be clever here.) More elaborately phrased, I suspect that much of the anti-Semitic animus on the right would dwindle away if more Jews made aliyah, and went home to their nation. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the matter.

    Finally: Jews do seem to make a convenient scapegoat, don't they?

    Once more, thanks for engaging, and if you're game, I'd like to develop our conversation. (If our host doesn't mind, of course.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon

  70. The Republican Party doesn’t really care about its long-term survival. It cares about placating the people who give them the big bucks. And the people who give them the big bucks are mostly the same people giving the Democratic Party the big bucks as well. So don’t expect the Republicans to do anything substantial to stem the tide of non-white immigration. Big Money wants a New Brazil in what used to be the United States. Big Money will get what it wants. Both parties will see to it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Geoff


    Big Money wants a New Brazil in what used to be the United States
     
    Except Brazil has always had sensible immigration policy, at least since independence. And only one language.

    Brazil and Mexico and Argentina and Colombia and Peru and so on are all run by "Big Money", and even more corrupt than the US. So how come they can resist demographic change?

    Why are we different?

    And how do we copy what they do right?
  71. Upthread, someone said that they had not seen anything on DailyKos about this assassination.

    Well, the most recommended item now is:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/21/1353296/-Is-Mayor-DeBlasio-going-to-be-safe

    Shorter version: the cops, and the cops alone, are responsible for this assassination, by not acknowledging and correcting their horrible brutality toward blacks.

    It would seem the NYPD blames DeBlasio.

    And not their own heinous contempt for other people’s lives.

    Again, must be read to be believed.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @candid_observer

    Early on there wasn't anything. Now the DailyKos is concerned for DeBlasio's safety. This is the Big Issue to them.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @candid_observer


    Again, must be read to be believed.
     
    Thanks a lot. My blood pressure can't take it.
  72. “anon says:

    ““an anti-terrorism drill in Bedford-Stuyvesant””

    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?”

    The most common kind of terrorist – the imaginary kind. I hope the taxpayers of New York City are cool with the taxes they hand over going to pay overtime for cops to carry out a pretend war on pretend terrorists. That Homeland Security racket is quite a gig. No amount of money will be spared to fight a mostly illusory enemy.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    My impression from a week in Manhattan this year is that it's now, with its wealth, a great place to be a skilled blue collar worker with the right connections: about every fourth street corner at midnight, some vans from the power company or a phone company is pulled up and guys are digging holes in the streets with a couple of cops watching over -- the overtime pay for all this midnight maintenance must be enormous.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @department 11

  73. I think CNN is more responsible than the Democrats. These kinds of crises situations are the only times where they beat Fox. They really fan the flames.

  74. http://www.vdare.com/articles/the-cold-civil-war-two-groups-of-whites-fighting-over-america-with-minorities-on-the-sidelines

    “The Mayor and First Lady believe the art at City Hall should reflect the vibrant diversity of New York City, and discussions on how to update the building’s collection to celebrate that diversity are underway,”

    I agree. How about hang portraits of Lu and Ramos?

  75. WhatEvvs [AKA "Bemused"] says:

    It’s absurd to blame this directly on De Blasio and to call for his resignation, as Breitbart is doing now. But it’s not absurd to hang Al Sharpton’s effigy around his neck, and around the neck of the man in the White House,* who is now suddenly calling for “patient” dialogue. Gotta laff at that one. Because Google “Al Sharpton” and these names and you will find numerous photos of them yukkin it up with the Reverend.

    BTW, everyone should check out Charles Johnson’s site – the man must live on ramen noodles and trawl the net 24/7, because he downloaded a video from the killer’s now defunct FB page. It shows the killer in a cab with a buddy harassing an African cabbie. This is important:

    He had a buddy. Or an accomplice? Good work, Chuck.

    *and Eric Holder

  76. Steve, the title of this post is the darkest joke I’ve seen in a while.

  77. http://www.redicecreations.com/radio3fourteen/2014/R314-141203.php

    Mark Hackard – Dostoevsky and Strategies of Subversion

  78. Anyone see Chuck’s latest piece on the Hamas activist behind the “pigs in a blanket” language Brinsley used before shooting the NYPD cops? Holder actually invited this keffiyeh-sporting clown to the Department of Justice.

    Somehow, I don’t think Bassem Masri was quite what Sabrina Rubin Erdely had in mind for the post-American future she’s working so hard to bring about.

    But that’s what she and her confederates are going to get — in spades. Watch what happens when SWPL neighborhoods suddenly find themselves significantly less policed. The crash in urban real-estate value alone is going to hit them where it hurts, only this time the people who get shafted will deserve it.

    • Replies: @CJ
    @Bill P

    Bassem Masri is the same venomous fanatic who had his iPhone stolen in this rather amusing video:

    Chief #Ferguson Instigator & Indicted Cop Hater Bassem Masri Robbed LIVE ON AIR

  79. @Anonymous
    It's a damned sight more complicated than that, Steve.

    It's not a simple 'quid pro quo' as you might believe, in which the nastiness of the reality of black behavior somehow 'forces' Asians, latinos and others into the so-called 'white tent', by which I suppose you mean the plutocratic, money worshipping cult that is the Republican Party. No, it's not a simple chess or checkers game, it's much more complicated than that, poker, that old and venerated game, which is the true life and soul of America, is the best analogy.
    Basically, the point is this: 'Doing down whitey' is the name of the game, in the case of white women, it's doing down white men. This part of the game is simple. By destroying white men in terms of temporal power, in theory, at least, a vast stick of wealth and power is supposedly 'liberated' to be divvyed up by the 'oppressed'. So at present women' blacks, Asians, latinos and the rest, are going at it hammers and tongs, and are winning, in so much as the white man in the USA has been basically castrated. So far, so good, as the 'anti' forces would have it.
    But blacks, due to their generally foul behavior are universally a spoiler. So, yes, the antis will, inevitably squabble amongst themselves - eventually. But and it's a Kardashian sized but, whitey man is, as Willy Sutton might have said, 'where the money is', so the general incessant and omnipotent attack will continue till the last pair of Caucasian balls have been excised - count on it. And the campaign WILL prevail' they've just got too much power and cohesion at their elbow. But once whitey man has gone, all bets are off. Frankly I haven't a clue what will happen, but I doubt it will be good.
    Another thing I'm certain of is that white women will side with the antis, no matter how hard their white brothers, fathers and sons are being hammered. You can take that last shrewd observation to the bank.

    Replies: @Wilkey

    “The odd thing about the racial agitation lately had been that there’s no point to it: the election is in the rear view mirror.”

    People really don’t get it: for Barack Obama, racial agitation is not just a political strategy – it is an obsession, and yes, he really is that racist. Watch every speech. He mentions race in almost every major speech he gives, even in speeches where it isn’t remotely topical – the speech on Sony pulling it’s North Korea movie, the speech celebrating the anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall (a speech, iirc, where he never once uttered the word “communist”), etc., etc. It is always on his mind.

    So of course he hasn’t let up since the election. Freed from ever having to run for election again and from the need to help win the mid-terms, he is now free to let his extremism all hang out. Hell, it was already obvious during his first term, and even before he was elected. But now it will only get worse, to the point where he’s willing to do real damage to the Republic of the kind which even most Democrats aren’t inclined. The only thing keeping him from doing some truly awful things is the potential loss of ex post facto bribes – aka, “speaking fees.”

    So no, his racial animosity is not a political tactic. It is very real.

  80. @OsRazor
    The test will be 2016, will blacks show up with numbers anything like that of 2008 or 2012? Most Whites don't appreciate fully how important Obama was to blacks--he is their Messiah, they have photos of him and Michelle and their girls in their living rooms, there's a religious connection. What this say about blacks is hugely important (their delusional world-views, their ridiculous sense of oppression, their inability to see how much worse things have become for them these last eight years, etc.), but with really White Hilary or Joe as the nominee in 2016, what will blacks do? My guess is that there will be Obama fatigue among democrats generally, a lost sense of purpose, but among blacks it will be much worse. The democratic party for them DOES mean explicitly the black party and it won't any longer with Obama gone. Look for them to stay home and protest against the return of the pasty Whites as the face of THEIR party.

    Will it be enough to keep a democrat from winning in 2016? I doubt it. The raw numbers just don't work for Republicans anymore unless the Republicans turn explicitly White (the Sailer Strategy), and they won't. Because in the end Asians and Hispanics may be uncomfortable with being junior partners in the black party, but 1) they've convinced themselves that this is a temporary arrangement (in due course they'll be in charge) and 2) much important, their hatred and fear of Whites trumps all.

    Replies: @Jonathan Silber, @Lot

    The test will be 2016, will blacks show up with numbers anything like that of 2008 or 2012?

    Nope, it will be the white vote that decides the election, just like it always is. Obama didn’t win because he did well with blacks, but because he did better with whites than Kerry and Gore. The high black turnout just ran up the electoral college score but was completely unnecessary.

    Remember, an extra 0.01% of the vote in Florida and Gore would have won, and an extra 1% in Ohio and Kerry would have won. That’s all Hillary needs to do in 2016, and why she’ll probably win.

    She’s going to be anointed in her primary while the GOP will have a long bloody mess, and then she’ll get historic turnout of single women. Black vote will probably drop off a bit, but black TV and radio, as well as robocalls, will feature Obama begging them to turn out to protect “our legacy.”

  81. @anon
    More thoughts...

    See Black Men are predators...they pick out the weakest white women...inebriated Hannah Graham...you can actually watch the guy test white girls until he finds an appropriately 'injured' victim.

    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the 'sexual kill.' Asians don't actually murder people like black men...but the end result is no white children which is the same result.

    Also, Asians are very childlike...in a more intelligent way then blacks...but that child like attitude is still there and very noticeable when you are overseas.

    A study came out saying that Asians don't get bored quickly...that's not a complement in this day age. What it means is they are possibly more susceptible to Propaganda than whites. And that is last type of Gene/Personality you want to ad to your white party.

    Then they are ethnocentric amongst themselves...and the only way they would give Steve Sailer a job is if he had an asian wife or was single and considered 'prey.'

    So I think making them vote for you is one thing...but joining with them is another.

    A fair warning :)

    Replies: @The most deplorable one, @David R. Merridale, @Michelle

    Anon, you are full of bull pucky and know diddley squat about Asians!

  82. Steve,

    I like your strategy but I’m still not sold on how it gets Hispanics. Yea, they don’t like blacks, but they do like free stuff. Democrats offer them that. Republicans don’t. There may be some skirmishes among the various factions of the coalition of the fringes but the coalition has a solid core: Get money from white men.

    You say that Hispanics would prefer to be second fiddle to whites rather than blacks, but if the black party is offering them free money (even if its not as much as its offering to blacks) and the white party is offering them nothing, that doesn’t make much sense.

    However, I do think that your plan could work for bringing wayward whites back to a pro-white GOP. The South seems to have a GOP that works along those lines, but I’m not sure.

    The main thing that a pro-white or possible anti-black party could offer Hispanics and single white women is safety. If money taken from white men starts to get spread pretty thin, protection against feral blacks could prove an enticing offer. But that may down the road a bit.

  83. @Mr. Anon
    "anon says:

    "“an anti-terrorism drill in Bedford-Stuyvesant”"

    What kind of terrorist would want to blow anything up in Bed-Stuy?"

    The most common kind of terrorist - the imaginary kind. I hope the taxpayers of New York City are cool with the taxes they hand over going to pay overtime for cops to carry out a pretend war on pretend terrorists. That Homeland Security racket is quite a gig. No amount of money will be spared to fight a mostly illusory enemy.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    My impression from a week in Manhattan this year is that it’s now, with its wealth, a great place to be a skilled blue collar worker with the right connections: about every fourth street corner at midnight, some vans from the power company or a phone company is pulled up and guys are digging holes in the streets with a couple of cops watching over — the overtime pay for all this midnight maintenance must be enormous.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Steve Sailer

    That's been true for some time.

    , @department 11
    @Steve Sailer

    Same thing going on in S.F. with PG&E.

  84. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    My impression from a week in Manhattan this year is that it's now, with its wealth, a great place to be a skilled blue collar worker with the right connections: about every fourth street corner at midnight, some vans from the power company or a phone company is pulled up and guys are digging holes in the streets with a couple of cops watching over -- the overtime pay for all this midnight maintenance must be enormous.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @department 11

    That’s been true for some time.

  85. @candid_observer
    Upthread, someone said that they had not seen anything on DailyKos about this assassination.

    Well, the most recommended item now is:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/21/1353296/-Is-Mayor-DeBlasio-going-to-be-safe

    Shorter version: the cops, and the cops alone, are responsible for this assassination, by not acknowledging and correcting their horrible brutality toward blacks.

    It would seem the NYPD blames DeBlasio.

    And not their own heinous contempt for other people's lives.
     
    Again, must be read to be believed.

    Replies: @David In TN, @Percy Gryce

    Early on there wasn’t anything. Now the DailyKos is concerned for DeBlasio’s safety. This is the Big Issue to them.

  86. White folks should wear a shirt that says “I can’t breed.”

  87. @candid_observer
    Upthread, someone said that they had not seen anything on DailyKos about this assassination.

    Well, the most recommended item now is:

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/12/21/1353296/-Is-Mayor-DeBlasio-going-to-be-safe

    Shorter version: the cops, and the cops alone, are responsible for this assassination, by not acknowledging and correcting their horrible brutality toward blacks.

    It would seem the NYPD blames DeBlasio.

    And not their own heinous contempt for other people's lives.
     
    Again, must be read to be believed.

    Replies: @David In TN, @Percy Gryce

    Again, must be read to be believed.

    Thanks a lot. My blood pressure can’t take it.

  88. @sabril
    "Because Jews have never done anything wrong?"

    Lol, nice strawman.

    "black hate for whitey"

    The problem is more about Leftist hate for whitey.

    "Gentile hate for Jews"

    And hate for Jews on both the Right and Left.

    "intellectually inferior group railing against their betters"

    No, it's more about targeting a convenient scapegoat.

    Replies: @Hunsdon

    Sabril:

    Thanks for engaging!

    I raised the question about Jews having done nothing wrong because I regard your analog, i.e., Southern gun culture, as practically blameless—and here I am focusing on Southern gun culture as opposed to other Southern cultures.

    I would be happy to enlarge the discussion to Leftist hate for whitey, but limited it to black hate for whitey due to a) the topic of our host’s post, and b) the parallel I saw with the “blacks are to whites as whites (Gentiles) are to Jews” meme. If you’d prefer, we can talk about the Left’s hate for whitey instead.

    Regarding Gentile hate for Jews being present on both the left and the right, that too is an interesting discussion I’d like to engage in. At first blush, I’d suspect that the Left hates Jews because they are Israeli, and the Right hates Jews because they are not. (But maybe I’m just trying to be clever here.) More elaborately phrased, I suspect that much of the anti-Semitic animus on the right would dwindle away if more Jews made aliyah, and went home to their nation. I’d be interested in your thoughts on the matter.

    Finally: Jews do seem to make a convenient scapegoat, don’t they?

    Once more, thanks for engaging, and if you’re game, I’d like to develop our conversation. (If our host doesn’t mind, of course.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hunsdon

    My family has been in the U.S. for over 100 years, and before that my ancestors lived in Poland and Russia. We don't consider Israel to be "our nation," and as we are non-religious, we would be miserable living there as the ultra-Orthodox rapidly grow in numbers and flex their political muscles. Why don't you go "back" to the UK or Germany or wherever your ancestors hail from? Why aren't those your countries as much as Israel is mine?

    , @anon
    @Hunsdon

    Only the nutcase left and right (you Unz goofballs) are antiemetic. The middle is only mildly annoyed.

    Replies: @Hunsdon

  89. @David R. Merridale
    @anon

    See Black Men are predators…they pick out the weakest white women…inebriated Hannah Graham…you can actually watch the guy test white girls until he finds an appropriately ‘injured’ victim.

    Asian women have an incredibly similar psychology. They test different white men and find the weakest ones, and then they move in for the ‘sexual kill.’ Asians don’t actually murder people like black men…but the end result is no white children which is the same result.


    WTF

    Replies: @snorlax

    I think this guy is British and is confusing the American term “Asian” (meaning East Asian) for the British term “Asian” (meaning South Asian – they get the dregs of Indo-Pakistani society, unlike the upper-class Brahmins who come to America). Either that or he’s a bit disturbed.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @snorlax


    I think this guy is British and is confusing the American term “Asian” (meaning East Asian) for the British term “Asian” (meaning South Asian – they get the dregs of Indo-Pakistani society, unlike the upper-class Brahmins who come to America). Either that or he’s a bit disturbed.
     
    South Asians don't intermarry with whites the way East Asians do. So option 2.

    I wonder what would happen if this "anon" found out that these "sexually predatory" Asian females actually have substantially lower rates of out-of-wedlock sex than even whites (and vastly lower than blacks and Hispanics).
  90. @SFG
    @J. Smith

    Actually, it's an eye for an eye--remember Ferguson? I guess he can't travel to Missouri to even things out properly.

    It used to be a very, very bad idea to attack cops, but with De Blasio controlling the NYPD...

    In my younger years, early Giuliani, I would thank the cops every time I saw them for cleaning up my hometown. They seemed to appreciate it.

    Replies: @NOTA

    The perp killed himself, so it’s not like the NYPD could do much to him. If he hadn’t, they certainly would have killed him.

  91. And a shout out to Gov. Pataki for sacking up and speaking the truth:

    Sickened by these barbaric acts, which sadly are a predictable outcome of divisive anti-cop rhetoric of #ericholder & #mayordeblasio. #NYPD— George E. Pataki (@GovernorPataki) December 21, 2014

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @Percy Gryce

    Oh dear - read the responses, nearly all of them by blacks.

  92. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    My impression from a week in Manhattan this year is that it's now, with its wealth, a great place to be a skilled blue collar worker with the right connections: about every fourth street corner at midnight, some vans from the power company or a phone company is pulled up and guys are digging holes in the streets with a couple of cops watching over -- the overtime pay for all this midnight maintenance must be enormous.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @department 11

    Same thing going on in S.F. with PG&E.

  93. @Percy Gryce
    And a shout out to Gov. Pataki for sacking up and speaking the truth:

    Sickened by these barbaric acts, which sadly are a predictable outcome of divisive anti-cop rhetoric of #ericholder & #mayordeblasio. #NYPD— George E. Pataki (@GovernorPataki) December 21, 2014
     

    Replies: @Wilkey

    Oh dear – read the responses, nearly all of them by blacks.

  94. “sabril says:

    ““Because Jews have never done anything wrong?””

    Lol, nice strawman. ”

    It wasn’t a straw-man at all. It was a valid point.

    “Lol” sounds stupid. I expected better of you.

  95. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Hunsdon
    @sabril

    Sabril:

    Thanks for engaging!

    I raised the question about Jews having done nothing wrong because I regard your analog, i.e., Southern gun culture, as practically blameless---and here I am focusing on Southern gun culture as opposed to other Southern cultures.

    I would be happy to enlarge the discussion to Leftist hate for whitey, but limited it to black hate for whitey due to a) the topic of our host's post, and b) the parallel I saw with the "blacks are to whites as whites (Gentiles) are to Jews" meme. If you'd prefer, we can talk about the Left's hate for whitey instead.

    Regarding Gentile hate for Jews being present on both the left and the right, that too is an interesting discussion I'd like to engage in. At first blush, I'd suspect that the Left hates Jews because they are Israeli, and the Right hates Jews because they are not. (But maybe I'm just trying to be clever here.) More elaborately phrased, I suspect that much of the anti-Semitic animus on the right would dwindle away if more Jews made aliyah, and went home to their nation. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the matter.

    Finally: Jews do seem to make a convenient scapegoat, don't they?

    Once more, thanks for engaging, and if you're game, I'd like to develop our conversation. (If our host doesn't mind, of course.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon

    My family has been in the U.S. for over 100 years, and before that my ancestors lived in Poland and Russia. We don’t consider Israel to be “our nation,” and as we are non-religious, we would be miserable living there as the ultra-Orthodox rapidly grow in numbers and flex their political muscles. Why don’t you go “back” to the UK or Germany or wherever your ancestors hail from? Why aren’t those your countries as much as Israel is mine?

  96. @Anon
    I think your strategy could work to an extent. But I don't entirely agree...

    I think what is bothering me is the fact that I look at a lot of Asians and Hispanics and see that they do have ALOT in common with blacks. Even upper class Asians, I look at them as being black.

    Blacks prey on weak whites like predators, and so do hispanics and asians they just do it more intelligently instead of in your face murder.

    It's a good strategy to make snarky little comments if your running for an election, certainly better than Rand Paul being a dip.

    I had a bet going about an upper class Asian to a white conservative who was saying 'oh no this person is great blah blah' and I was right. The Asian ended up behaving EXACTLY like I said they would. (Asian woman having an affair with a liberal 'Asian women are full of love' white male behind her asian husband's back)

    I think you want to keep Asians away from your party. I think somehow getting Asians to actually consider themselves black would be FAR FAR FAR More fortuitous for whites then anything else.

    I've seen East Asians identify as black...go the whole white liberal lady bit...then get rejected by blacks...but Instead of being allies of our group...they become a steadfast member of the Liberal White Crowd who don't actually hang with blacks but say they do lol

    I think a better strategy would be to get those types of Asians to stay with the black crowd. They never are going to be 'Conservative' they just join the White Liberal Crowd and Strengthen Them.

    So that's why I think your theory is good for snarky comments, but wrong as an actual strategy.

    Replies: @anon

    Hispanics acting black, yes. Asians, particularly Chinese and Japanese, no way. They are more like swpl.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @anon


    Hispanics acting black, yes. Asians, particularly Chinese and Japanese, no way. They are more like swpl.
     
    And Korean merchants are probably people who are the most likely to have gun fights with black criminals.
  97. @Hunsdon
    @sabril

    Sabril:

    Thanks for engaging!

    I raised the question about Jews having done nothing wrong because I regard your analog, i.e., Southern gun culture, as practically blameless---and here I am focusing on Southern gun culture as opposed to other Southern cultures.

    I would be happy to enlarge the discussion to Leftist hate for whitey, but limited it to black hate for whitey due to a) the topic of our host's post, and b) the parallel I saw with the "blacks are to whites as whites (Gentiles) are to Jews" meme. If you'd prefer, we can talk about the Left's hate for whitey instead.

    Regarding Gentile hate for Jews being present on both the left and the right, that too is an interesting discussion I'd like to engage in. At first blush, I'd suspect that the Left hates Jews because they are Israeli, and the Right hates Jews because they are not. (But maybe I'm just trying to be clever here.) More elaborately phrased, I suspect that much of the anti-Semitic animus on the right would dwindle away if more Jews made aliyah, and went home to their nation. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the matter.

    Finally: Jews do seem to make a convenient scapegoat, don't they?

    Once more, thanks for engaging, and if you're game, I'd like to develop our conversation. (If our host doesn't mind, of course.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @anon

    Only the nutcase left and right (you Unz goofballs) are antiemetic. The middle is only mildly annoyed.

    • Replies: @Hunsdon
    @anon

    Sir, I am in no way antiemitic. If you need to throw up, I think you should. By the way, out of curiosity, were you lumping me in the nutcase left, or the nutcase right?

  98. @anon
    @Hunsdon

    Only the nutcase left and right (you Unz goofballs) are antiemetic. The middle is only mildly annoyed.

    Replies: @Hunsdon

    Sir, I am in no way antiemitic. If you need to throw up, I think you should. By the way, out of curiosity, were you lumping me in the nutcase left, or the nutcase right?

  99. Steve you can talk about citizenism all you want but you’re about 30 years too late. This country is on a crash course with a race/sectarian war of epic proportions.

  100. @Anonymous
    Steve
    do you REALLY expect the left the regret anything? or admit they are wrong?
    They'll let this boil over, pick up the megaphone and have at it again.

    What do they have to gain by admitting they wrong? nothing. It would be the first step in giving up moral authority and power, and that they will never do.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    What do they have to gain by admitting they wrong? nothing. It would be the first step in giving up moral authority and power, and that they will never do.

    Trotsky said that the morality of the Left is determined by the answer to the following question: Is it good for the revolution?

  101. @Anonymous
    Steve likes to make the 'Manichaen' analogy of the twin parties of American politics. Literally the black party and the white party.
    Can't see it myself, rather I see it as the 'party of the totem pole' vs the 'party of the plutocrats'.
    Simplifying this down further, it's the party of the yoni - the second holiest image on the totem pole vs the party of the lingam - the party of the thrust and gush of money power.
    If Steve may forgive my profanity, and allow me to use the true words of Chaucer, one of the earliest and greatest of English poets 'tis the difference between a fool and a knave, a prick and a quent'. Or in the phrase beloved by modern agony aunts 'an erect penis has no conscience' ie the Republicans care not whit one beyond the orgiastic explosion of the ecstasy of stored wealth.

    Replies: @ben tillman

    Can’t see it myself, rather I see it as the ‘party of the totem pole’ vs the ‘party of the plutocrats’.

    Give me a break. It’s a party of the plutocrats versus another party of the plutocrats.

    One pretends to represent non-Whites and non-productive & non-reproductive Whites.

    The other pretends to represent productive Whites.

    But they’re both controlled by money.

  102. The most deplorable one [AKA "Fourth doorman of the apocalypse"] says:
    @As If
    Meanwhile Vox Day is sounding like he's masturbating over dead cops so he can hawk Lind's book. Guy has never picked up a rifle before in his life or even lives in the US but you'd think he was the second coming of Giap through osmosis or something.

    Replies: @The most deplorable one

    You got a woodie for Vox Day? Sure you are not Andrew Marston?

    • Replies: @as if
    @The most deplorable one

    Sorry I didn't mean to offend you by mocking your husband. Please don't hit me with your purse.

    Sarcasm aside, disagreeing with someone who's wiping the drool from his face over dead police killed by an idiot negroid muslim isn't "having a woody" as much as pointing out bad taste.

  103. Cops not answering 911 calls? Sounds like a good way to get us taxpayers out of a bunch of public pension obligations.

  104. @Geoff
    The Republican Party doesn't really care about its long-term survival. It cares about placating the people who give them the big bucks. And the people who give them the big bucks are mostly the same people giving the Democratic Party the big bucks as well. So don't expect the Republicans to do anything substantial to stem the tide of non-white immigration. Big Money wants a New Brazil in what used to be the United States. Big Money will get what it wants. Both parties will see to it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Big Money wants a New Brazil in what used to be the United States

    Except Brazil has always had sensible immigration policy, at least since independence. And only one language.

    Brazil and Mexico and Argentina and Colombia and Peru and so on are all run by “Big Money”, and even more corrupt than the US. So how come they can resist demographic change?

    Why are we different?

    And how do we copy what they do right?

  105. Steve Does it strike you that the gunman’s social media posts are a lttle too poetic to have sprung from the mind of a murderous thug? Another data point that doesnt ring true: what other black spree killers have ended their rampage by commiting suicide? None that I can think of.

    Conspiracy?

  106. iSteveFan says:

    Brazil and Mexico and Argentina and Colombia and Peru and so on are all run by “Big Money”, and even more corrupt than the US. So how come they can resist demographic change?

    You’ll note in the USA when someone speaks about increasing diversity, what they really mean is decreasing the percentage of whites. I believe you need to look at the phrase demographic change in the same light. Demographic change is really about making a nation less white. But the goal is not 100 percent nonwhite. After all the moneyed classes do need responsible stewards to manage their investment. And no one really wants to recreate Haiti.

    Therefore, since Mexico is only 9 percent white, there is little need for demographic change. Ditto for Peru and Columbia where whites are only 15% and 20% respectively, if that.

    As for Brazil, the white population is probably down to about 50 percent. That’s probably a good number because it makes it difficult for one group to control things, but still keeps enough whites in the workforce to support a high tech economy. Brazil after all does have an impressive aviation industry. So further demographic change is not necessary.

    As for Argentina, self reports indicate it is 90 percent white, but others who claim to know believe many of those listing themselves as white are not, at least in the sense of US standards. My guess is Argentina is really not that important to worry about, and that the focus should remain on making the big fish of North America, Europe and Oceania less white.

    • Replies: @Randall Parker
    @iSteveFan

    High tech Brazil: Last time I heard this argument I went and looked at the top market cap companies in Brazil. No, not a big high tech place. Here is a list of the top 20 Brazilian companies. You see telecommunications on the list. But of course they have phone companies. Those aren't big players in making phones or networking equipment.

    Brazil is not a success story. It has a lot of natural resources. Lots of resource extraction and farming. But it is not a good model for America's future.

  107. @The most deplorable one
    @As If

    You got a woodie for Vox Day? Sure you are not Andrew Marston?

    Replies: @as if

    Sorry I didn’t mean to offend you by mocking your husband. Please don’t hit me with your purse.

    Sarcasm aside, disagreeing with someone who’s wiping the drool from his face over dead police killed by an idiot negroid muslim isn’t “having a woody” as much as pointing out bad taste.

  108. @Bill P
    Anyone see Chuck's latest piece on the Hamas activist behind the "pigs in a blanket" language Brinsley used before shooting the NYPD cops? Holder actually invited this keffiyeh-sporting clown to the Department of Justice.

    Somehow, I don't think Bassem Masri was quite what Sabrina Rubin Erdely had in mind for the post-American future she's working so hard to bring about.

    But that's what she and her confederates are going to get -- in spades. Watch what happens when SWPL neighborhoods suddenly find themselves significantly less policed. The crash in urban real-estate value alone is going to hit them where it hurts, only this time the people who get shafted will deserve it.

    Replies: @CJ

    Bassem Masri is the same venomous fanatic who had his iPhone stolen in this rather amusing video:

    Chief #Ferguson Instigator & Indicted Cop Hater Bassem Masri Robbed LIVE ON AIR

  109. I do not engage with “Mr. Anon” due to his past dishonesty. If anyone not on my sh**-list is curious, I am happy to spell out his lies in detail.

  110. @Dave Pinsen
    @Ed

    Has Charles Blow tweeted anything (he's blocked me)?

    Replies: @Ed

    He blocked me too but someone retweeted a tweet I saw from him. Something to the effect the protests don’t stop.

  111. In normal times DeBlasio would be more or less done. I’m not so sure though. A recent poll, before the incident, shows De Blasio’s approval at 70% for Blacks, 47% for Hispanics and low 30s for Whites. I could easily see the approval rate for Blacks increase. My guess is De Blasio is borrowing a page from Obama’s playbook, racial division with latent appeals to Blacks. You develop a passionate loyalty among Blacks, string along Hispanics and a few ditzy Whites and your power is ensured.

    If Sharpton is still around City Hall that means De Blasio thinks he has nothing to fear.

  112. @ Jesse

    Omar Thornton comes to mind.

  113. I do not engage with “Mr. Anon” due to his past dishonesty. If anyone not on my sh**-list is curious, I am happy to spell out his lies in detail.

    Do I qualify?

  114. BTW, everyone should check out Charles Johnson’s site – the man must live on ramen noodles and trawl the net 24/7

    Ah, LGF, that takes me back. I remember back when he allied himself with neocons and attacked anyone who they told him to. But he was always a liberal and in 2007 after Robert Spencer had a conference that included some European nationalists Johnson apparently decided they were his enemies for life and loudly and absurdly attacked them all for months without end. Since then LGF has been a pale imitation of Kos, except not nearly as funny.

    Truth be told I’m surprised anyone still remembers that old unemployed guitar musician.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @Bert

    I think he might have been referring to a different Charles Johnson.

  115. “I raised the question about Jews having done nothing wrong because I regard your analog, i.e., Southern gun culture, as practically blameless—and here I am focusing on Southern gun culture as opposed to other Southern cultures.

    I would be happy to enlarge the discussion to Leftist hate for whitey”

    Umm, I kinda brought that up already. But let’s do this:

    Is there anything I posted with which you disagree? If so, please quote it and explain why you think it is wrong.

  116. @Bert

    BTW, everyone should check out Charles Johnson’s site – the man must live on ramen noodles and trawl the net 24/7
     
    Ah, LGF, that takes me back. I remember back when he allied himself with neocons and attacked anyone who they told him to. But he was always a liberal and in 2007 after Robert Spencer had a conference that included some European nationalists Johnson apparently decided they were his enemies for life and loudly and absurdly attacked them all for months without end. Since then LGF has been a pale imitation of Kos, except not nearly as funny.

    Truth be told I'm surprised anyone still remembers that old unemployed guitar musician.

    Replies: @Matra

    I think he might have been referring to a different Charles Johnson.

  117. @Anonymous
    This “black” logic makes perfect sense: white cops killed blacks, therefore blacks must go kill Asian and Hispanic cops.

    On the contrary, the logic seemed to be, "Cops killed blacks. Cops must pay."

    Replies: @Twinkie

    On the contrary, the logic seemed to be, “Cops killed blacks. Cops must pay.”

    Oh, really? Is that why there are anti-cop riots every time a black cop kills a black criminal?

    No, there is only hysteria when non-black cops kill black criminals.

  118. @snorlax
    @David R. Merridale

    I think this guy is British and is confusing the American term "Asian" (meaning East Asian) for the British term "Asian" (meaning South Asian - they get the dregs of Indo-Pakistani society, unlike the upper-class Brahmins who come to America). Either that or he's a bit disturbed.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I think this guy is British and is confusing the American term “Asian” (meaning East Asian) for the British term “Asian” (meaning South Asian – they get the dregs of Indo-Pakistani society, unlike the upper-class Brahmins who come to America). Either that or he’s a bit disturbed.

    South Asians don’t intermarry with whites the way East Asians do. So option 2.

    I wonder what would happen if this “anon” found out that these “sexually predatory” Asian females actually have substantially lower rates of out-of-wedlock sex than even whites (and vastly lower than blacks and Hispanics).

  119. @anon
    @Anon

    Hispanics acting black, yes. Asians, particularly Chinese and Japanese, no way. They are more like swpl.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Hispanics acting black, yes. Asians, particularly Chinese and Japanese, no way. They are more like swpl.

    And Korean merchants are probably people who are the most likely to have gun fights with black criminals.

  120. My family has been in the U.S. for over 100 years, and before that my ancestors lived in Poland and Russia. We don’t consider Israel to be “our nation,” and as we are non-religious, we would be miserable living there as the ultra-Orthodox rapidly grow in numbers and flex their political muscles. Why don’t you go “back” to the UK or Germany or wherever your ancestors hail from? Why aren’t those your countries as much as Israel is mine?

    Well, one reason is that the UK or Germany or wherever Hunsdon’s ancestors hail from wouldn’t take him – not without a lengthy, years-long immigration process, a lawyer, and many thousands of dollars, and maybe not even then. Whether you and your family consider Israel your nation or not, you could move there tomorrow and be considered citizens. We’ve got nowhere else to go.

  121. Hey Steve,

    Do you notice that a lot of your commentators (Unz commentators) don’t understand analogies?

    I’m having fun here 🙂

  122. @Priss Factor
    NYT blamed the 'culture of hate' in Dallas for the killing of Kennedy even though a commie did it.

    I wonder if it has anything to say about the culture of hatred in cities and campuses that led to black riots in Ferguson, the killing of two cops in NY, and the crazed hysteria at UVA.

    Or, is it a case of "our paranoia is cool, your paranoia(even when it's not paranoia) is fool"?

    Power seems to be about who has the privilege to be paranoid and who doesn't.

    Whoops. Sweet sweetback's badass megaphone.

    Replies: @dcite

    No, a “commie” didn’t do it. Even Congress admitted that in 1978 when they agreed JFK was murdered by a network of people–conspiracy. LHO was in the employ of the CIA. These things have been hiding in plain sight and so well researched, no one with any knowledge of the event believes LHO shot anyone much less all by his lonesome (Lone Nut accusation–Modus Operandi of this group). Lone nuts who get killed by old mafia connected buddies can’t tell tales.

    Please, enough of this ignorance and no name calling. When you actually ask intelligent questions and do research, you find out the world is not always as the NYT, the WaPo, or the WC, tell it.

    Anyone who dismisses that assassination — or most 20th c. political murders — as one little “commie” did it, deserves all the lies we are fed every day by the MSM. Which is what we are discussing here, and why I am always surprised at the childish acceptance of “conspiracy theory” as an insult. That is what “they” want you to think. Basically so you don’t think.

  123. “sabril says:

    I do not engage with “Mr. Anon” due to his past dishonesty.”

    That is a lie. Sabril does not “engage” with me because he is petulant and thin-skinned, and I once said something he diasagreed with. If he doesn’t like being subjected to criticism on what he posts, then he shouldn’t post on a public forum.

    If anyone not on my sh**-list is curious……….”

    What a fun guy he must be to be around.

  124. @ Hunsdon:

    “sabril says

    Is there anything I posted with which you disagree? If so, please quote it and explain why you think it is wrong.”

    He forgot to mention the usual terms he likes to dictate for “engaging” with him in conversation, such as:

    Give three examples – one in esperanto, one in the form of an acrostic, and one via the medium of interperative dance.

  125. @iSteveFan

    Brazil and Mexico and Argentina and Colombia and Peru and so on are all run by “Big Money”, and even more corrupt than the US. So how come they can resist demographic change?
     
    You'll note in the USA when someone speaks about increasing diversity, what they really mean is decreasing the percentage of whites. I believe you need to look at the phrase demographic change in the same light. Demographic change is really about making a nation less white. But the goal is not 100 percent nonwhite. After all the moneyed classes do need responsible stewards to manage their investment. And no one really wants to recreate Haiti.

    Therefore, since Mexico is only 9 percent white, there is little need for demographic change. Ditto for Peru and Columbia where whites are only 15% and 20% respectively, if that.

    As for Brazil, the white population is probably down to about 50 percent. That's probably a good number because it makes it difficult for one group to control things, but still keeps enough whites in the workforce to support a high tech economy. Brazil after all does have an impressive aviation industry. So further demographic change is not necessary.

    As for Argentina, self reports indicate it is 90 percent white, but others who claim to know believe many of those listing themselves as white are not, at least in the sense of US standards. My guess is Argentina is really not that important to worry about, and that the focus should remain on making the big fish of North America, Europe and Oceania less white.

    Replies: @Randall Parker

    High tech Brazil: Last time I heard this argument I went and looked at the top market cap companies in Brazil. No, not a big high tech place. Here is a list of the top 20 Brazilian companies. You see telecommunications on the list. But of course they have phone companies. Those aren’t big players in making phones or networking equipment.

    Brazil is not a success story. It has a lot of natural resources. Lots of resource extraction and farming. But it is not a good model for America’s future.

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