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From the New York Times’ gossip column:

My Daughter’s Married Boyfriend Shouldn’t Join Us on Vacation, Right?

A mother is concerned about her adult child’s involvement with a polyamorous man.

By Philip Galanes
Jan. 13, 2022

My 30-year-old daughter is in a polyamorous relationship with a married man. She brought him home for the holidays, and while he was charming, I felt uncomfortable. (This may have been triggered by my husband’s infidelity that led to our divorce.) Now, my daughter tells me she would like to bring this man on our family trip to Greece this year. It may be petty, but I don’t want to foot the bill for another woman’s husband. And I don’t see any way this relationship can lead to my daughter’s happiness. Should I lay out my boundaries and risk my daughter not joining me on vacation?

MOM

I may be off-base, but I don’t think the real issue here is the cost of a trip to Greece

I mean, how much can a trip to Greece cost? It’s not like they use an expensive currency in Greece. You can probably get about a million drachmas for a dollar, right?

or your ex-husband’s infidelity. This is about respecting your adult daughter’s choices. You have substituted your idea of happiness for hers. This is a common (and often well-intentioned) trap for many parents. It’s not productive, though.

Of course you should pay for the married man who is having an affair with your daughter to tag along for free on the family vacation you are footing the bill for. Every mother should be proud to have a daughter who is sleeping with a guy who is both married to somebody else and a freeloader on you. This isn’t the 1990s anymore when Kamala became Willie Brown’s mistress and got a BMW and a couple of sinecures out of it. Now, the mistress’s mom subsidizes the philandering husband.

Let’s put aside the trip to Greece and the specter of your cheating ex. Unlike him, people in polyamorous arrangements usually set ground rules with their partners for opening their relationship to others. (No one is cheating!)

This man isn’t some two-timing horndog like your ex-husband, he’s polyamorous. That’s his identity. He is one of the good guys undermining society’s monogamous structure. He might even be nonbinary and will hit on all the Greek waiters on the trip you are paying for.

In contrast, you sound like you’d rather save up your money to pay for your daughter’s wedding to some bad guy who will forsake all others to stand by her and support her as she gives birth to your grandchildren. Shame, woman, shame.

Try to understand, as best you can, what your daughter likes about this arrangement and how it satisfies her.

And never ever have any doubts that maybe she’s not rapturously happy being this guy’s side piece while he uses up her fertile years.

As a show of respect, read up on polyamory before you broach the subject with her. Then ask questions. I am not suggesting that you set aside all of your concerns — only that you try to respect your adult daughter’s decisions. In a more open-minded context, you may find that the trip to Greece resolves itself.

Also, my advice to you is that you should take up smoking crack and playing Russian roulette.

 
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  1. “I mean, how much can a trip to Greece cost?”

    LA to Athens, ~\$700 airfare. But depending on the month it can be cheaper.

  2. “He is one of the good guys undermining society’s monogamous structure”

    My post post didn’t show up so no way to edit this in.

    The left really does hate society as it currently exists don’t they?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  3. So is the subversion deliberate or unintended?

    Do they run articles like this in Israeli newspapers?

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    , @HammerJack
    , @J.Ross
  4. It reads like some of that 60’s crap, your daughter is hip and cool and you’re a square etc.etc. Even though it all ended in tears last time it’s always year zero for these people.
    Also must they make it so obvious that they’re getting some kind of Journolist marching orders? All of a sudden it’s all polyamory all the time.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix, Daniel H
    • Replies: @Mike_from_SGV
  5. JimDandy says:

    So… is it ok again for a Christian brotha to have a bunch of wives again? Or?

  6. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:

    Of course you should pay for the married man who is having an affair with your daughter to tag along for free on the family vacation you are footing the bill for.

    How is this any worse than if her daughter were giving sex away for free to an unmarried “boyfriend”?

    The problem is that the daughter herself is in a non-marital relationship, losing her best years to a man who is not her husband.

    • Replies: @LP5
  7. Whiskey says: • Website

    Just more of the soft polygamy that has existed since at least the 1990s, if not before. Pretty much 95% of women would prefer a time share Alpha over a fully owned beta male. That’s just how women are. Its why normal, sensible societies limit women’s economic, social, and political power otherwise you get a collapse in fertility.

    Delayed childbirth is reduced childbirth. In many cases, to zero. China is now grappling with a catastrophic decline in its population, which has already gotten old before it got rich. Japan is full into this catastrophe. So are Whites around the world, many Muslim nations such as Iran, Algeria, and Tunisia with below replacement fertility. Only Africans by keeping it real manage to have sexy times with lots of ladies, zero paternal investment, and lots of kids. Divine George Floyd, of the Holy Fentanyl, Saintly redeemer of Whiteness, had at least five known kids none of which he supported.

    Yes the mother wants grandkids. She ought to know by now that will never ever happen. All she will get is daughter by her side as she grows older. Her daughter will die alone, irrelevant and unloved by anyone. No man not even a beta will care about an Alphas ex-Whore. That’s Kamala Harris’s problem. She’s just Willie Brown’s ex Whore.

    Even or especially North Korea has this problem. According to today’s FT, during the Famines of the 1990s as there was no more Soviet support, the men were all required to show up at factories but received no pay nor rations. Women turned to desperate street vending and black market business, often having to pay off officials with both money and sex. This has not had a positive impact on male-female relationships. Indeed the top officials and secret police just have whatever woman they want, married or not. Women running businesses end up buying husbands, often with political connections to offer protection. Now Lil Kim is seeking to roll that all back but without the Bronze Age Palace system rations that will provide actual food for the population. Unless women have to trade exclusive sex with one man for survival, they will always hold out for an Alpha. Indeed intermittent sex and affection from an aloof Alpha beats for women not requiring survival all the love and devotion of a beta male. Women always overstimate their beauty, its staying power, and their fertility window because 99% of the time men don’t turn them on, but that 1% of the time with a true Alpha its complete hormone meltdown China Syndrome. So those feelz are far more powerful for women, when they do happen, than anything even the horniest of guys feels. And again, a horny dude will feel it for any half way attractive girl, but for a women only the Alpha-est of Alphas generates that feelz.

    Modern industrial society (as noted above not unique to the West) puts a consumer sized premium on female feelz so its feelz uber alles all the way.

  8. Whiskey says: • Website
    @JohnnyWalker123

    About 15 years ago there was a US copy of an Israeli hit, “the Ex List” where some hot ho chick gets told by a psychic she will marry one of her exes and so goes and hooks up with every one, it ran over 100 episodes each one featuring a new ex who she finds out was wrong after she sleeps with him again. In the end she marries her beta male orbiter who never had sex with her. Women loved it. In Israel. Here it failed miserably. Made it to maybe five episodes.

    Not sure if that answers the question. Its basically consumerism without guard rails. Radical individual sexual freedom always leads to this stuff, basically big man polygamy, the new thing P3do stuff pushed in USA Today (they are not backing down either) and all the rest of it — trannies in girls bathrooms raping girls, etc.

    I will say Moldbug has a point. Leaders who act like owners, even if bad ones, of society try to put up guard rails on this stuff knowing it just makes society overall more unhappy at the expense of a few optimizing sex/feelz and thus more likely to revolt. Putin putting the gays more back in the closet, Xi doing the same, outlawing sissy men K-Pop style stars and fan clubs and curbing celebrities and limiting gaming and limiting divorce are all push back of owners of their societies against consumerist poz.

  9. I`m sure I have read something suspiciously similar to this problem elsewhere.

    You have a problem like this, and your reaction is to write to a newspaper? I don`t think so.

    I always think the newspapers make up a lot of these things – or else exaggerate them – or else the person writing in makes it up.

    In that fine British fake news outlet, the Guardian, I once posted a comment to one of their agony columns simply asking how readers could know if their problems were not fabrications whether inside or outside the newspaper. Their reaction was of course to delete my comment.

    Just as a hypothesis which cannot be disproved is not science, it is difficult to see how stuff like this is journalism as no verifiable evidence whatsoever is offered.

  10. I thought the fruity advice columnist was going to tell her she also had to pay for his wife to come along.

    I guess this is what you do with a law degree from Yale these days:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Galanes

    • Replies: @Ray P
  11. New York Times:

    Now, my daughter tells me she would like to bring this man on our family trip to Greece this year.

    In a more open-minded context, you may find that the trip to Greece resolves itself.

    I hereby repoast one of the funniest ever SNL skits:

    @ 2:32

    “Oh Walter we made your favorite tonight—moussaka.”
    “AHAHAhahaha!”
    “What.. what’s so funny?”
    “You see, Catherine, in our younger days we took a glorious trip to the Greek islands …”

  12. The daughter is trying to arrange time away from the other woman because she secretly doesn’t like sharing and is in competition with the wife.
    (see https://openpsychometrics.org/research/demographics-of-polyamory/ for gender discrepancies in accepting polyamory)
    The boyfriend is a loser and borderline sociopath who doesn’t pay his own way and is using the daughter for sex and then rubbing it in her mother’s face by imposing himself in their family.
    The mother is a coward who’s trying to psychoanalyze away her own instincts because she wants to avoid confronting her daughter.

    This is social rot, and the lies and manipulation it engenders on all fronts form habits and confused thinking that will spill over into other realms of life.

    I am all for a little experimentation in youth, but some hypocrisy and privacy go a long way in preserving what needs to be preserved in the cohorts over 30 and for the cohorts under 13.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  13. Alrenous says: • Website

    You’re not admitting you’re some loser who doesn’t get hit on by nonsingle women, are you? Geeze don’t identify with the girl who gets cheated on, identify with the guy who cheats.

    I mean, you’re already reading the New York Times, why stop half-way? Read the NYT like you mean it, then rob the liquor store like you’re supposed to.

    I also identify with someone who gets free vacations for no apparent reason, and definitely not with anyone who pays to travel to Greece. What? On purpose? Silly. We’ve already imported all their good stuff.

  14. anon[419] • Disclaimer says:

    Considering the context of this article, it’s not exactly clear what “trip to Greece” is referring to here:

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=trip%20to%20Greece

    • Replies: @Athenian Gentleman
  15. By Philip Galanes

    Philip Galanes was born and raised in New England, and earned degrees from Yale College and Yale Law School. He worked as an entertainment lawyer at Paul Weiss Rifkind Wharton & Garrison, representing clients in film, theater, television and fine art. More recently, he served as the General Counsel and Chief Operating Officer of Golden Books Family Entertainment, a children’s media company. He now represents clients in private practice and sits on the boards of directors of several companies.”

    • LOL: Verymuchalive
    • Replies: @ic1000
  16. @Whiskey

    Africans are role models? Do you also post as Tiny Duck, Whiskey?
    Or consuming too much of your namesake?

    • Replies: @Whiskey
  17. @Auld Alliance

    I published a piece a few months ago by a novelist who got twelve made up letters to the advice columnist published in Slate.

    Titania McGrath made her American debut with a letter to the NYT advice columnists.

  18. SafeNow says:

    Ah, Greece! Refreshing our knowledge of the cradle of democracy, as democracy is now so imperiled in the U.S. It’s not like this travail is befalling a Vegas- or Norway-vacationing family; you expect oafish behavior like this in a supremicist family. That is not who we are. We are Greece people!! How can this be happening to Greece-vacationing people!? Please, NYT, help this family of philosopher-reading people.

  19. @JohnnyWalker123

    “Dear NYT Advice: My daughter wants to date a young man who may have voted for Donald Trump. I think he’s probably a neo-nazi. What should I do?

    • LOL: AnotherDad
  20. @Auld Alliance

    I always think the newspapers make up a lot of these things – or else exaggerate them – or else the person writing in makes it up.

    IME, anything in the MSM which is not completely verifiable is made up out of whole cloth. The dismaying part is that they make up a large proportion of the verifiable part as well.

    The phenomenon is by no means limited to advice columns.

    • Replies: @Anon
  21. J.Ross says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Only when you contextualize journalism like this as psychological warfare operations in a bitter genocidal conflict does it make any sense.
    Or, play the game, [posts DVD cover image for “Good Jewish Boys Love Sistas”].

  22. J.Ross says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    So much could be solved if “airborne AIDS” was real.

  23. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Well, I often trust your judgment so I gave it a full four minutes. All four minutes were torture. People really laugh at this?

  24. Mr Mox says:

    I mean, how much can a trip to Greece cost? It’s not like they use an expensive currency in Greece. You can probably get about a million drachmas for a dollar, right?

    The Greeks tragedy in a nutshell: they’re stuck with the euro – or more to the point – they’re stuck with a huge, self inflicted debt in euro. If they could go back to the drachma (and a hefty devaluation) they would become the favorite tourist trap of Europe in no time. But, sadly for Greece, the bankers running the EU says no.

  25. @HammerJack

    “Dear NYT Advice: My daughter wants to date a young man who is resisting getting the vaccine. What should I do?”

  26. Unlike him, people in polyamorous arrangements usually set ground rules with their partners for opening their relationship to others. (No one is cheating!)

    Of course, because no one would ever break those ground rules you yourself just cited. Never mind that one participant already is breaking the marriage ground rules his wife probably thought they were setting when they got married.

    I see no reason to think polyamory ground rules would be any more sacred to all who set them or any less often broken than marriage ground rules are.

  27. @Mr Mox

    When I went to Bodrum on the Turkish Riviera in 2009, lots of people asked if I was also going to visit the Greek Island of Kos just 3 miles offshore. I asked, “What’s it like?”

    Everybody who’d been there replied, “It’s just like here, only much more expensive.”

    So, I never went. (Well, actually, I swam to Kos, but I didn’t spend any money there.)

    • Replies: @Mr Mox
  28. Sailer wrote:

    And never ever have any doubts that maybe she’s not rapturously happy being this guy’s side piece while he uses up her fertile years.

    Oh, I am pretty sure she has fantasies that he will leave his wife for her.

    I’ve seen this happen several times — an old high-school friend, a co-worker, a member of my extended family (not my wife or daughter!): all three women ended up disappointed, of course.

    My mom’s grandmother warned her and her sister, “Men only want one thing!”

    Wonderful liberated world we live in, that we are no longer allowed to give the warning Great Grandma gave!

    Wonderful, that is, for males with no conscience whatsoever. Not so wonderful for American women.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @Veteran Aryan
  29. El Dato says:
    @PhysicistDave

    My mom’s grandmother warned her and her sister, “Men only want one thing!”

    “A good TV programme”

    That virtue signalling admonition always was grotesque.

  30. Anon[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack

    IME, anything in the MSM which is not completely verifiable is made up out of whole cloth. The dismaying part is that they make up a large proportion of the verifiable part as well.

    The phenomenon is by no means limited to advice columns.

    Nor is it limited to the mainstream media (MSM) or to the Left, now is it?

  31. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @interesting

    The left really does hate society as it currently exists don’t they?

    Yes, and for good reason. The population whose ancestors built society as it currently exists, “industrial society”, and that are economically productive and thus supporting society as it currently exists, is dying off and actually being replaced by other genetically distinct groups. They can sustain industrial society, but not their own population.

    The other genetically distinct groups are unable to sustain Western society in their own countries because they consider it repugnant and lack the personality or IQ or, if you will, ability to organize their lives around the framework of Western abstractions. As a consequence, they cannot make industrial society productive enough to sustain itself.

    A look at just how repugnant Western society appears to non-Westerners is granted by Steve Sailor’s article: https://www.unz.com/isteve/racist-karen-whips-black-boys-for-playing-basketball-what-happens-next-is-shocking/

    Society as it currently exists has friends and effective supporters only in a declining population, and not in increasing populations. Just this dooms it in its current form.

    These are facts on the ground. From all signs, Western civilization is about to re-invent itself, as it does periodically. It is difficult to say whether this re-invention will succeed, but it is clear that the attempt is justified by the lack of viability of the current social order.

    On the bright side, everybody who reads this has the opportunity to participate in the definition and actual creation of a new form of Western society over the next decade or two. What this next iteration will be like will depend on who wins the round of severe conflict that is just now heating up. Nobody in history has been able to predict the outcome of such a conflict, and I suspect that nobody now alive can predict it.

    Despite that, I doubt that the polyamorists (especially the broke polyamorists) will be very influential.

    • Replies: @James N. Kennett
  32. @Mr Mox

    Our nominally-radical leftist government decided against leaving the EU and the euro when it had the chance in 2015. Going back to the drachma would lead to total economic collapse that would take years to recover from, if we would ever recover. We’ve had first-hand experience of what happened to the people of ex-Soviet Bloc countries after 1989, and who dreams of their daughters becoming prostitutes in some strange land?

    That said, if you can afford a ~\$1000 air fare to Greece, wouldn’t you also be able to afford another thousand for your other expenses for a week or ten days?

    It sure is more expensive to live here than, e.g., Turkey, but not so much for a middle-class American (plus, it’s much safer). Me and my wife make about €20k (~\$23k) a year each and we live pretty comfortably in a nice, safe, quiet middle-class neighbourhood. Could we do the same in the US?

  33. @anon

    From the Urban Dictionary link you provided:

    trip to Greece

    Having anal sex. Particularly in a craigslist hooker ad, when you see a woman charging for a “trip to Greece”, she’ll let you stick it up her butt for extra.

    A reminder that heterosexual sodomites do indeed exist.

    As do homoerotically-inclined* men who eschew and even abhor buggery.

    [MORE]
    Some even eschew the oral-genital acts** that (to the blissful ignorance of many who indulge in them) also fall under widely accepted definitions of sodomy.

    *Exclusively as well as non-exclusively
    **Let alone (and pardon the mention of) oral-anal

    Male or female, the anatomical and physiological realities of the ano-rectal orifice are manifestly clear: An exit-only structure that is decidedly ill-suited for copulatory use.

  34. ic1000 says:
    @Change that Matters

    Thanks for that link to the “About” page put up by advice columnist Philip Galanes (Yale BA, Yale JD, aspiring novelist, interior decorator to Greenwich Village and the Hamptons).

    It would be jarring to read a Peter Turchin essay (“How ‘elite overproduction’ and ‘lawyer glut’ could ruin the U.S.”) and realize, “He’s describing me!”

    On the other hand, someone who thrives at offering destructive relationship advice to strangers (real and imagined) probably isn’t scoring terribly high on the Self-Awareness section of the SAT.

  35. Mike Tre says:

    How likely is it that the letter from this concerned mother is a complete fabrication just so the topic can be discussed by this “advice giver”?

  36. Mr Mox says:
    @Steve Sailer

    (Well, actually, I swam to Kos, but I didn’t spend any money there.)

    Three miles! That’s one and a half JFK. I tip my hat to you, sir.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  37. How morally crippled does someone have to be to ask for advice on this from anyone, much less from the twisted NYT?

  38. @kaganovitch

    So I guess poly is the Next Big Thing, after gay and tranny.

  39. @Whiskey

    “So those feelz are far more powerful for women, when they do happen, than anything even the horniest of guys feels”. This is fascinating, if true. It is consistent with the phenomenon of women throwing themselves at athletes, rock stars, etc.

  40. @Anonymous

    The other genetically distinct groups are unable to sustain Western society in their own countries because

    … they are low-trust, low-IQ societies. If they come here in large enough numbers, they will make our countries like their own.

    Western civilization is about to re-invent itself

    … as Brazil or South Africa, which is how the elites would like it.

    On the bright side, everybody who reads this has the opportunity to participate in the definition and actual creation of a new form of Western society over the next decade or two.

    If only that were true. The social collapse is unstoppable.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  41. Have you noticed how they use a new word whenever they want to make something acceptable?

    We have certain expectations of polygamy, for example that the participants all live together. That’s not what the NYT wants, so they’ll call it polyamory, and then they broaden the term to include arrangements that were previously deprecated, such as adultery.

    It’s the same with trans. Previously we had “transsexuals”: a small group of people who had, or intended to have, something quaintly termed a “sex change operation”. Now instead we have “transgender”, a much larger group who may have only the “top half” operation, the “bottom half”, or no operation at all.

  42. Dr. X says:
    @Auld Alliance

    When I was a kid Ann Landers (((Eppie Lederer))) and Dear Abby (((Pauline Friedman))) were published in hundreds of newspapers and read by millions.

    In retrospect it is now obvious to me that this was a made-up scam to promulgate Jewish and countercultural sexual values to the goyim under the guise of giving “expert advice” to middle American housewives…

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Roger
    , @Jew
  43. possumman says:

    Just tell your daughter to take her “personal massager”–it will fit in her carry-on and you won’t have to buy meals for it .

  44. LP5 says:
    @Anonymous

    The problem is that the daughter herself is in a non-marital relationship, losing her best years to a man who is not her husband.

    When will The Wall join the banned expressions list, if it hasn’t already?

    Mother Nature, Father Time, those cruel parents, or whatever the correct NYT term may be. That rag has contributory negligence in feeding delusions of readers who refuse to acknowledge basic biology, among other sciences.

  45. @Whiskey

    This piece has nothing to do with asians but you had to bring them up in your discussion, you white nationalist incels need to get over your yellow fever nothing good is goin to come out of it .

  46. Maybe I’m not alpha enough, but it seems like a good way to get women to gang up against you. One at a time is challenge enough for me, thank you!

    • Agree: notsaying
  47. Roger says:
    @Auld Alliance

    Okay, assume that the story is made up or exaggerated. The NYT is still making a point of giving that horrible advice. It is not just trying to entertain us with bad advice, but tell us how we should be tolerating and supporting a married man banging our daughter.

  48. VEL says: • Website

    Maternal instinct leads a woman to prefer a tenth share in a first rate man to the exclusive possession of a third rate one” George Bernard Shaw

    There is no reason to believe polygyny is always against women’s interests.

    As emphasized by Robert Wright in The Moral Animal, women generally financially benefit from polygyny. Thus, if Jeff Bezos is 100,000 times richer than Joe Schmo, then a woman is financially better off becoming the second wife, or the tenth wife (or even the 99,999th wife), of Jeff Bezos rather than the first wife of poor Joe (see Kanazawa and Still 1999).

    This is analogous to the ‘polygyny threshold model’ among non-human animals, though here females usually distribute themselves in accord with male territory size and quality (i.e. resource abundance) rather than wealth as such.

    An additional benefit for women of polygyny is that any offspring that result from the relationship might inherit the genes that caused the father to be so wealthy and polygynous and hence go on to be similarly polygynous themselves, thereby spreading the woman’s own genes in subsequent generation. Biologists call this ‘good genes sexual selection’ or the ‘sexy son hypothesis’.

    See my blog post: https://thecontemporaryheretic.com/2021/09/19/the-means-of-reproduction-and-the-ultimate-purpose-of-political-power/.

  49. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Redneck farmer

    Yes Africans ARE in some respects the Master Race. They have lots of kids, even in industrialized society. That is mostly because they are criminals and welfare recipients who mostly don’t work and act the same way as they did in Africa: women do the minimal manual labor, and the men lay about being the best singers, dancers, fighters.

    Africans cannot sustain a civilization, but they do have kids, lots of them. Europeans and Asians can sustain a civilization, ME Muslims “sort of” but they can’t have kids in the current societies they inhabit and mostly created.

    So there you go. Paradox. What women with actual resources of their own want from a man is a dude that other women have had, plenty, insemination, and sexy genes for sexy dominant sons. They neither want nor need male provision where it is not necessary to survival, as in Africa. This is why Africans are the sort-of Master Race, they evolved high fertility in places where male provision is irrelevant. Europeans and Asians are the reverse, our fertility is crashing because we evolved in an environment (think 1600’s England) where male provision was the only means of survival of women and children.

  50. Americans! Know ye that Greece indeed has a very expensive currency called Euro. Not drahmas, not oboles , and that for quite a while.

  51. @Auld Alliance

    It all started with Hunter Thompson, although he was inspired by Hemingway. The idea is that the journo “just knows” the truth, and it’s “more true” to present a fictional story than mere recitation of verified facts. Thompson routinely just made shit up, not just quotes but people and whole incidents, as a means of conveying “the Truth.” Of course, journos made stuff up before, but no one did it so relentlessly as HST, and got away with it. People still lionize him as “one of the greats”.

    Ironically, I think the key was the simultaneous appearance of Woodward and Bernstein. The Post forced them to be meticulously accurate (having a disgruntled FBI official as a conduit made things a lot smoother, of course), but they created the idea of the crusading journo in search of the Truth.

    Combine that with Thompson’s smug attitude of already knowing the story (no need to actually leave the office) and right to make shit up, and you have the formula for the parade of 12 year old crack addicts, Steven Glass fabrications, Duke lacrosse gang rapes (in Rolling Stone, of course), and on the flip side, WMDs, baby incubators, hospitals overwhelmed with Covid patients, etc.

    See the new bio, High White Notes by David Wills.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  52. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Classic stuff. Love the “authentic” pronunciation: mous-SAH-KAH!

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  53. @HammerJack

    If you know these types, it’s hysterical.

  54. @HammerJack

    The answer is obvious. Since you don’t know this for a fact, simply alert the FBI and they can check him out. Don’t try to engage him yourself, he may be armed and willing to kill.

  55. @James J O'Meara

    I doubt if all that much is made up in Hunter S. Thompson’s novel “Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas” because practically nothing actually happens in it.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
  56. @Dr. X

    Nah, Dear Abby/Ann Landers were the work of the International Identical Twin Conspiracy.

  57. Roger says:
    @Dr. X

    Ann Landers and Dear Abby were not original enough to have made up all those letters. But I agree that their advice was very un-Christian, as they often advised women to leave their husbands.

  58. @Mr Mox

    And how many Chappaquiddicks?

  59. @Steve Sailer

    Yat. His later writing was proto-21st Century American Leftist. Fantastic terror, not tethered to evidence. But his early stuff was really good.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
  60. @James J O'Meara

    mous-SAH-KAH!

    And at the beginning, faux-Brit baba ganoose. 🙂

  61. @HammerJack

    All four minutes were torture. People really laugh at this?

    As James J O’Meara wrote: If you know these types, it’s hysterical. This skit nails a certain type of bobo earthy humanities academic and turns it up to eleven. Part of what’s funny (to me) is the juxtaposition of upper middlebrow pomposity with the perverse lowbrow, er, Dionysian strivings and recollections of the aging horndogs.

    Plus it’s totally on topic, so there’s that. 🙂

    • Replies: @Alden
  62. SIMP simp says:

    Did you see the latest Substack post from Scott Alexander announcing his marriage?

  63. Dube says:

    The column devoted much expense for artfully posed photographs of polyamorous ensembles intimately relaxed while looking frankly at rhe camera – more production quality than just Abby or Ann with a cup of coffee and a Selectric, shuffling through the mail. The black practitioners had smiles and shining eyes, the whites seemed kind of homely. The message: how natural.

  64. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:
    @James N. Kennett

    On the bright side, everybody who reads this has the opportunity to participate in the definition and actual creation of a new form of Western society over the next decade or two.

    The social collapse is unstoppable.

    The social collapse is “the opportunity to participate in the definition and actual creation of a new form of Western society over the next decade or two.”

    That’s how things work — systems remain stable, then change suddenly (social collapse). During the collapse, many die, many don’t. The survivors then adopt whatever seems likely to end the bloodshed. Examples being 1914-1970 (followed by a 50 year’s comparative peace), or the 30 Year’s War that led to the Treaty of Westphalia, which established that international law that made the “modern State” compulsory in Western Europe. The “modern state” effectively ended in 1970, BTW, at least in the West. replaced by the “bureaucratic state” that appealed to “human rights”.

    Think of it as a “reality LARP” and it might go better.

  65. @PhysicistDave

    My mom’s grandmother warned her and her sister, “Men only want one thing!”

    My grandfather warned me that women only want one thing – to “steal your seed.” For a long time I kept an eye on the grain silo but no women ever showed up.

  66. anon[808] • Disclaimer says:

    @PhysicistDave says #26

    “My mom’s grandmother warned her and her sister, ‘Men only want one thing!’” – Physicist Dave

    Maybe granny only *had* one thing, and when she got too old to trade on that anymore she finally figured it out.

  67. Jew says:
    @Dr. X

    to promulgate Jewish and countercultural sexual values to the goyim

  68. Alden says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The frumpy grandpa sweater the man wore was a perfect touch. His beard was a real man’s beard though. Liberal men usually can’t grow decent beards. Not enough testosterone I guess.

  69. A lot if this comes to us courtesy of the rise of the Single Mother. The daughter would never dare ask her father to bring a married boyfriend on a trip, but she doesn’t have a father in her life. The single mother is changing society. Better? Worse? I don’t know, but I think it will be worse for women. There are now entire generations of daughters who thing a “relationship” means bringing a stranger home once a month and giving him a blowjob on the couch.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  70. anon[210] • Disclaimer says:

    @Cool Daddy Jimbo #70

    “The single mother is changing society. Better? Worse? I don’t know, but I think it will be worse for women.”

    And if it *is* worse for women, they’ll still find a way to blame their daddies, even if they’re the product of artificial insemination.

  71. Anonymous[392] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    A lot if this comes to us courtesy of the rise of the Single Mother. The daughter would never dare ask her father to bring a married boyfriend on a trip, but she doesn’t have a father in her life.

    How do you know the mother in question is single?

    • Replies: @Cool Daddy Jimbo
  72. @Anonymous

    “How do you know the mother in question is single?”

    I assumed it, based on the fact that the father isn’t mentioned. She’s going on a family vacation with her mother, not “with her parents.”

    • Replies: @HFR
  73. HFR says:
    @Cool Daddy Jimbo

    Cool Daddy Jimbo: “…based on the fact that the father isn’t mentioned.”

    The father IS mentioned. The parents are divorced owing to his infidelity. Also, a woman with a 30-year-old daughter is likely to be between 50 and 60 herself, an age at which being a widow is not unusual. Granted, being divorced or widowed does render one “single,” but the fact remains that the father was mentioned.

  74. Ian Smith says:
    @Neil Templeton

    Nothing he wrote after Nikon’s resignation is worth reading. I remember reading Generation of Swine, his essays from the mid-80s, and they were painfully uninteresting. Seriously, Dave #&*+ing Barry is smarter and funnier than post-Nixon HST!

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