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Two weeks ago in Taki’s Magazine, I broke the big news story that after the Racial Reckoning was declared over George Floyd’s death on Memorial Day 2020, much like the historic surge in black-on-black shootings, black traffic fatalities had also soared by 36% relative to 2019 over the last seven months of the year.

The sudden slaughter on the highways of blacks (black road deaths were up 55% in June 2020 over June 2019) is obviously due to the Racial Reckoning leading to black feelings above suddenly being above the law and the cops backing off making traffic stops of blacks driving badly as The Establishment was demanding.

Now, the mainstream media has finally figured out how it’s going to spin this news. I’ll give you one guess.

OK, here’s a hint: the word starts with “R.”

From NBC News via Yahoo News:

Why Black people are disproportionately dying in traffic accidents

Char Adams
Tue, June 22, 2021, 7:16 AM·3 min read

Black people represented the largest increase in traffic deaths last year than any other racial group, even as Americans drove less overall due to the pandemic, according to recently released data.

An estimated 38,680 people died in motor vehicle traffic crashes in 2020 — the largest projected number of deaths since 2007, according the U.S. Department of Transportation’s National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. The number of Black people who died in such crashes was up 23 percent from 2019, the largest increase in traffic deaths among racial groups, according to the administration’s report.

Norman Garrick, a civil and environmental engineering professor at the University of Connecticut, said the numbers are saddening, but not surprising.

“Black people tend to be overrepresented as walkers in this country,” Garrick said. “This is not by choice. In many cases, Black folks cannot afford motor vehicles. And people that walk in this country tend to experience a much, much higher rate of traffic fatality. We’re talking eight to 10 times more. It’s a perfect storm of a lot of horrible forces.”

OK, but according to the NHTSA report, across all races: “Pedestrian fatalities are projected to remain unchanged in 2020 as compared to 2019 (up 0%).” In contrast, road deaths in which a driver or passenger was ejected from his vehicle were up 20%. In other words, bad driving went way up, especially among blacks but mostly not during the first three months of the pandemic (Mar-May 2020), but only after the Racial Reckoning was declared.

This most likely represents yet another way the health crisis has had an outsize effect on Black people.

There was another event in the headlines in 2020 that also had an outsize effect on black people: the Racial Reckoning.

But that can’t possibly have happened because more blacks dying in car crashes is a bad thing, while the Racial Reckoning is a good thing, and good things can’t cause bad things. That’s how the world works, isn’t it?

Also, your theory is in part that blacks chose to do things, like drive recklessly. But as we all know, blacks can’t choose what they do. At all times, they are wholly the helpless victims of whites.

Even in the early days of the pandemic, the National Safety Council found that the emptier roads were proving to be more deadly, with a 14 percent jump in roadway deaths per miles driven in March. And Black people are more likely to face traffic injuries in general; from 2010-2019, Black pedestrians were 82 percent more likely to be hit by drivers, according to a 2021 report from Smart Growth America, a Washington, D.C.-based advocacy group focused on urban development.

Which race of drivers are most likely to hit black pedestrians in black neighborhoods?

Look, as a daily walker, I’m a big advocate of improved pedestrian safety. I’ve said that if we are going to make the money printer go brrrrr to pay for infrastructure, more advanced traffic lights and crosswalks would be high on my personal priority list.

Calvin Gladney, president of Smart Growth America, said the pandemic has only exacerbated the longstanding problem. He said there are three major reasons Black people bear the brunt of roadway injuries: infrastructure, design and racism. Predominantly Black neighborhoods are less likely to have crosswalks, warning signs and other safety mechanisms, he said. And many high-speed highways are in or go through communities of color, thanks to a federal effort in the 1950s to modernize the nation’s roadways.

Or a big effort by blacks in the 1960s to move to conveniently located, short-commute urban neighborhoods that are well-served by highways and public transit.

“These fatalities have been going upward for a decade,” Gladney said. “You go to Black and brown communities, you go to lower-income communities and you don’t see many sidewalks. You don’t see as many pedestrian crossings. The types of streets that go through Black and brown neighborhoods are like mini highways where the speed limit is 35 or 45. You see this disproportionately in Black and brown communities often because of race-based decisions of the past.”

And the infrastructure suddenly got much worse from May to June 2020?

Little to no infrastructure funding means those in Black neighborhoods live with poor roads, dangerous proximity to waste sites, little access to public transportation and more. Along with the systemic nature of this problem, Gladney pointed out that social racism also plays a role in the rising number of traffic fatalities. A 2017 study from the University of Nevada found that drivers are less likely to slow down or stop for Black pedestrians than they are for white ones. …

“The pandemic illuminated issues that people have been ignoring,” Gladney added. “These are the same streets and the same roads that have always been there. If we have intentionality to get to racial equity and close the disparities, we actually can fix this.”

 
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  1. You go to Black and brown communities, you go to lower-income communities and you don’t see many sidewalks. You don’t see as many pedestrian crossings.

    I see just as many crosswalks, but a lot fewer people using them.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    Meanwhile, Driving While Black is a real thing. It involves going at least twice the speed limit, breaking every single road-safety regulation, aiming your car at any white pedestrians you see, shadowing more expensive cars in their blind spots on the interstate, slumping down in your seat with one hand on the top of the steering wheel and the other on your cell phone or your blunt, and doing all of this on a suspended or revoked license, without insurance. And seat belts? That's just white supremacy.

    You racists think doing all of that at the same time is easy? Mad skillz yo.

    , @mc23
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    I drive through a nearby black inner city on a regular basis and sometimes feel I am playing a game of chicken with black pedestrians. They are incredibly insouciance compared to walkers in other neighborhoods.

    This is also aggravated by a black tendency to double park even when there's a space 20 feet ahead. This happens constantly on the route I drive making the street one lane and blocking the view. I saw someone parallel parking the other week and felt like getting out and saluting.

    , @Steven Carr
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    I think when Black people moved to cities like Newark and Baltimore, the old crosswalks were taken away by white people when they fled. And this is why Black communities have fewer crosswalks.

    , @Alfa158
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    “You go to Black and brown communities, you go to lower-income communities and you don’t see many sidewalks. You don’t see as many pedestrian crossings.”

    That the beauty of having total control of The Megaphone. You can make ludicrous, fact-free assertions like that, secure in the knowledge that no one is going to call you on it.

  2. OK, here’s a hint: the word starts with “R.”

    Oh, that “R” word. I thought you were going to say it was pinned on Republicans.

  3. Wait just a minute!… you’re telling me that coming down the on ramp and immediately swerving into the far left lane in heavy traffic, only to swerve all the way back to the right and get off AT THE VERY NEXT OFF RAMP is possibly dangerous and reckless driving???

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Rooster11

    Everyone knows the right-hand lanes are for wiggers and uncle toms.

  4. For all the shit Asian women take for their poor driving skills, black women seem to be their equal in terms of horrid driving.

    Or maybe its just women drivers in general.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @R.G. Camara

    • Man of Unz: @ Alden

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @R.G. Camara

    Watch. Only 17 seconds.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlH9RGLJqxE

    Also, watch this clip. 25 seconds.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ECWTCsUx62s

    , @Anonymous
    @R.G. Camara


    For all the shit Asian women take for their poor driving skills
     
    https://youtu.be/hlH9RGLJqxE
    , @Kronos
    @R.G. Camara

    They typically don’t try and flee the scene.

    https://youtu.be/NjwktXZOCqs

    At least when illegal immigrants run away from an accident it’s due to lack of paperwork.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

  5. Cars, roads, and traffic laws are all designed for white people.

  6. The effort to excuse the poor behavior of black folks is getting more tortured and preposterous, isn’t it? Calvin Gladney, who is black, just can’t bring himself to acknowledge that black people have a well-established culture of not conforming to the law and risk-taking. For instance, these fine, upstanding young men are in Baltimore, but I’m sure every big city has a similar faction.

  7. Gladney pointed out that social racism also plays a role in the rising number of traffic fatalities. A 2017 study from the University of Nevada found that drivers are less likely to slow down or stop for Black pedestrians than they are for white ones.

    When I was a kid, I was trained to cross the street quickly, and try to do it at a corner, crosswalk or light, because, y’know, laws of physics mean cars tend to win any pedestrian versus car conflict. In my [redacted] decades of driving since, I have observed that this training does not appear to be evenly distributed.

    I’ve also seen horrifying videos of what happens if you stop for the “wrong” pedestrian.

    Two forms of “social racism,” I guess.

    • Agree: bomag
  8. You seem to have a much better handle on the numbers and cause-and-effect than this traffic engineer*, Steve. As I wrote in a comment a few days ago, if he adds that race factor, a) no one will give him any grief on any of his conjecture, even if nothing to do with race – he could still call them racists and get them in trouble AND b) Notice he’s on NBC News via Yahoo News. Would he be if he didn’t bring out the race explanation? They’d get someone else who would.

    Oh, and then there’s that “perfect storm” tripe again. You want to see a perfect storm? Wait until the world loses faith in the once-almighty US dollar after having been purposefully turned into a multi-cultural conglomerate of aggrieved diversity. That will be THE perfect storm of stupidity.

    .

    * Maybe he’s not officially, but he sure is acting like one with his opinions. (Traffic Engineering is a small subset of Civil Engineering.) I also wonder if he was an AA hire.

  9. jon says:

    A 2017 study from the University of Nevada found that drivers are less likely to slow down or stop for Black pedestrians than they are for white ones

    Here is the study that proved it’s all about Racism:

    Two research participants, one white female and one black female, acted as pedestrians attempting to cross the street at a midblock crosswalk … Each pedestrian completed approximately 30 crossing attempts at each of the two crosswalks … There were a total of 126 roadway crosses.

    Good sample size, that.
    And the results:

    more cars passed in the nearest lane without yielding while the white pedestrian waited at the curb, and more cars passed through the crosswalk while the black pedestrian was in the same half of the roadway at the high income crosswalk

    So, mixed results – sometimes they yielded more to the black lady, sometimes more to the White lady. But what about muh Racism?

    While the failure to yield places all pedestrians at risk, failing to yield while a pedestrians is in the roadway has greater safety implications than failing to yield while a pedestrian is still waiting at the curb. This is a significant finding, as it may be a factor in the increased pedestrian crash rates for minority populations.

    Whew! That was close. It looks like we can get published, after all.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000145751630361X

    • Replies: @jon
    @jon

    And here is the graph showing that "more cars passed through the crosswalk while the black pedestrian was in the same half of the roadway":
    https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S000145751630361X-gr2.jpg
    Notice the "Mean number of cars ..." on the left axis. It's at about 0.28.

    So, one asshole didn't yield to the black lady, now American drivers are racist.

    Replies: @jon, @GeraldB

    , @Anon
    @jon

    I seem to recall something published here a while back about a high number black pedestrian deaths were because they were walking drunk home from the bar. They were being run over by black drunk drivers leaving the parking lots of those very same bars.

  10. @R.G. Camara
    For all the shit Asian women take for their poor driving skills, black women seem to be their equal in terms of horrid driving.

    Or maybe its just women drivers in general.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Kronos

    • Man of Unz: @ Alden

  11. jon says:
    @jon

    A 2017 study from the University of Nevada found that drivers are less likely to slow down or stop for Black pedestrians than they are for white ones
     
    Here is the study that proved it's all about Racism:

    Two research participants, one white female and one black female, acted as pedestrians attempting to cross the street at a midblock crosswalk ... Each pedestrian completed approximately 30 crossing attempts at each of the two crosswalks ... There were a total of 126 roadway crosses.
     
    Good sample size, that.
    And the results:

    more cars passed in the nearest lane without yielding while the white pedestrian waited at the curb, and more cars passed through the crosswalk while the black pedestrian was in the same half of the roadway at the high income crosswalk
     
    So, mixed results - sometimes they yielded more to the black lady, sometimes more to the White lady. But what about muh Racism?

    While the failure to yield places all pedestrians at risk, failing to yield while a pedestrians is in the roadway has greater safety implications than failing to yield while a pedestrian is still waiting at the curb. This is a significant finding, as it may be a factor in the increased pedestrian crash rates for minority populations.
     
    Whew! That was close. It looks like we can get published, after all.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000145751630361X

    Replies: @jon, @Anon

    And here is the graph showing that “more cars passed through the crosswalk while the black pedestrian was in the same half of the roadway”:

    Notice the “Mean number of cars …” on the left axis. It’s at about 0.28.

    So, one asshole didn’t yield to the black lady, now American drivers are racist.

    • Replies: @jon
    @jon

    Sorry to be a serial poster on this, but the study just keeps getting dumber.
    The high and low-income intersections:


    The high income neighborhood street consisted of six vehicle lanes with a speed limit of 45mph, and the low income neighborhood had four vehicle lanes with a speed limit of 35mph.
     
    The method of counting:

    A trained observer recorded the (1) number of cars that passed in the nearest lane before yielding while the pedestrian waited near the crosswalk at the curb (2) number of cars that passed through the crosswalk with the pedestrian in the same half of the roadway (total cars that passed in the first half of the roadway while pedestrian was in that segment of the roadway summed with total cars that passed in the second half of the roadway while the pedestrian was in that segment of the roadway).
     
    So our asshole driver that cut off the black lady, getting us all branded as racists in the process, could have had a full empty lane between himself and the lady when he "cut her off." It's all just too stupid, but it got published, so it's good enough for NBC News.

    Replies: @anon

    , @GeraldB
    @jon

    Note the error bars on those graphs. Statistically speaking, there is no significant difference between low-income/high-income neighborhoods, and no significant difference between white/black pedestrians. The error bars overlap.

    The errors are huge because of the very small sample sizes.

    Replies: @jon

  12. Helmets mandatory for pedestrians.

    Predominantly Black neighborhoods are less likely to have crosswalks, warning signs and other safety mechanisms ..

    I’ve seen black schoolkids (in dowdy clothes) crossing the busy street at lunchtime, mob wild, oblivious to (in total disregard for!) the crosswalk in front of their school, so as to shortcut to the junk food / convenience store. (The retailer always has a sign on the door: “No more than 3 kids allowed in the store at a time.”)

    I’ve also seen plenty of white kids (in designer clothes) stampede out of their schools at 2:20, so as to pile into their family, nanny-driven, imported SUV. The vehicles had converged on the school five minutes earlier — often by making illegal U-turns on narrow streets — and jockeyed for the one, side-of-street un/loading zone space, or the few good (consolation) spaces in the No Parking zone. The self-entitled drivers who lost the game of musical chairs, and ended up parking their cars on the opposite side of the street, cross the boulevard wherever they are, rather than hike to the crosswalk a half-block away.

    Taxpaying drivers, who make the effort to only pass through school zones at the slack tide, non rush hour periods, get preyed upon by cops who lurk there, looking to write double-fine tickets.

  13. jon says:
    @jon
    @jon

    And here is the graph showing that "more cars passed through the crosswalk while the black pedestrian was in the same half of the roadway":
    https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S000145751630361X-gr2.jpg
    Notice the "Mean number of cars ..." on the left axis. It's at about 0.28.

    So, one asshole didn't yield to the black lady, now American drivers are racist.

    Replies: @jon, @GeraldB

    Sorry to be a serial poster on this, but the study just keeps getting dumber.
    The high and low-income intersections:

    The high income neighborhood street consisted of six vehicle lanes with a speed limit of 45mph, and the low income neighborhood had four vehicle lanes with a speed limit of 35mph.

    The method of counting:

    A trained observer recorded the (1) number of cars that passed in the nearest lane before yielding while the pedestrian waited near the crosswalk at the curb (2) number of cars that passed through the crosswalk with the pedestrian in the same half of the roadway (total cars that passed in the first half of the roadway while pedestrian was in that segment of the roadway summed with total cars that passed in the second half of the roadway while the pedestrian was in that segment of the roadway).

    So our asshole driver that cut off the black lady, getting us all branded as racists in the process, could have had a full empty lane between himself and the lady when he “cut her off.” It’s all just too stupid, but it got published, so it’s good enough for NBC News.

    • Replies: @anon
    @jon

    This "research" is a bit more complicated than some high school science fair projects, but not much more. I've seen work done by college sophomores that was more in depth and reproducible.

    "Research has shown", "studies show", etc. is like someone quoting a horoscope.

  14. I whole-heartedly agree with the author of this piece. The roads through the diverse neighborhoods should be blocked off completely from any outside traffic.

  15. @R.G. Camara
    For all the shit Asian women take for their poor driving skills, black women seem to be their equal in terms of horrid driving.

    Or maybe its just women drivers in general.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Kronos

    Watch. Only 17 seconds.

    Also, watch this clip. 25 seconds.

  16. Every time I read some of this MSM slop blaming whitey for __!!!BLACK!!!__ Darwin Award-tier self-destructiveness, I often try to imagine being a white adult in year 2021 and still thinking the MSM is a credible source of objective, unbiased information.

    And I always get stuck on one of three possibilities:
    1) The MSM is somehow fudging their revenue and viewer/subscriber numbers to make them seem more popular than they really are;
    2) A depressingly large percentage of white folk are so credulous, stupid, and/or dogmatic that they actually buy this crap (and deserve to get whatever it is they’re asking for, good and hard); or
    3) I’m batshit crazy and the MSM actually is a font of objective, unbiased information.

    None of these are mutually exclusive but my gut’s telling me it’s #2, largely alone.

    Change my mind.

    • Replies: @Etruscan Film Star
    @Matthew Kelly


    2) A depressingly large percentage of white folk are so credulous, stupid, and/or dogmatic that they actually buy this crap (and deserve to get whatever it is they’re asking for, good and hard) ...
     
    Yes, but also that a depressingly large percentage of whites see the MSM's bias and pandering to persons of choler but feel they have to keep stumm or risk being called racist. Too bad they don't get it that just wearing the skin they were born with means they'll be tagged anyway.
    , @Desiderius
    @Matthew Kelly

    It's 2) but they're just old.

    , @Jack D
    @Matthew Kelly


    A depressingly large percentage of white folk are so credulous, stupid, and/or dogmatic that they actually buy this crap
     
    It's not all whites but certain segments of the white population. For example, non-college white men vote something like 3 to 1 Republican. But that leaves other segments on the other side of the fence, such as college educated white females. Even they know in their heart of hearts what is true (see their revealed preference as to where they live, where they send their kids to school, whether they walk down ghetto streets alone at night, etc.) but the feeling of superiority you get from being a Liberal is like a drug high - it's just too good to give up.
  17. Is it racist to notice that blacks slowly saunter across busy thoroughfares at oblique angles to the curb, kind of daring you to hit them.

    • Replies: @Hannah Katz
    @JimB

    They have a tough time lining up for service at a store or other establishment. Always wandering about instead of staying in line. Then they try to cut in line and accuse others of R....

    Also maybe talking on the phone and texting while driving is a factor. This affects women of all ethnic groups more than men, but especially the B.....s

  18. Anonymous[369] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara
    For all the shit Asian women take for their poor driving skills, black women seem to be their equal in terms of horrid driving.

    Or maybe its just women drivers in general.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Kronos

    For all the shit Asian women take for their poor driving skills

  19. Black pedestrians were 82 percent more likely to be hit by drivers, … .

    Which race of drivers are most likely to hit black pedestrians in black neighborhoods?

    Notwithstanding that black drivers are probably 82% more likely to hit black pedestrians, this reminds me of an incident when one of my (((liberal))) high school colleagues was learning to drive. Being a neophyte, she almost ran over an entire family of pedestrians in a crosswalk in broad daylight. The pedestrians, as were most people in the neighborhood, were black, which added a certain frisson to the encounter. Embarrassed, but always determined that she was not at fault in any mishap, my colleague immediately located the source of the problem that led to the near-tragedy: race!

    “I couldn’t see them against the black asphalt!,” she pleaded.

    Please inform Calvin Gladney that the pedestrian fatality gap can be closed by making asphalt white. That would be the Smart Growth thing to do.

    • LOL: jon, bomag
  20. OT: The live action Snow White is being played by a Hispanic girl (Though her father was mostly Polish and her mother may have been half Irish she looks and identifies as Colombian and Hispanic) who is also starring in Spielberg’s remake of West Side Story as Maria.

    Say hello to Snow Off-White. Guess all the white actresses playing Snow White at Disney Land will be phased out.

    • LOL: advancedatheist
    • Replies: @Matthew Kelly
    @Altai

    "Mirror, mirror on the wall,
    Who is the most la atrocidad of them all?"

    , @Stan d Mute
    @Altai


    Say hello to Snow Off-White.
     
    If they want to introduce us to a new character, ‘twerky hoe’, I’m fine with that. But the sickness of renaming MY heroes goes back a VERY VERY long way…

    Dionysus & Bacchus redux..
    , @rebel yell
    @Altai


    Say hello to Snow Off-White.
     
    I get it and would also be annoyed at yet another instance of black bodies being thrust upon us for political reasons. But there is an overriding law of the universe that cancels out these considerations:
    Hot chicks are hot!
    As long as Snow White has a great body I don't care what color she is. Drama always requires us to suspend reality and let our imaginations rule, and the only inviolate reality requirement for this fairy tale is that Snow White be a good-looking female. This actress seems to fit the bill, so I say let the show go on.
    , @AndrewR
    @Altai

    She's pretty hot

    , @mc23
    @Altai

    I thought Hispanics only counted as White for crime statistics?

  21. more likely to speed, more likely to do stupid stuff when driving. it’s not hard to understand. i didn’t realize any agency was keeping FBI-like data on who was getting killed in crashes. that’s a new one for me.

    i figure insurance companies do, but it might be illegal for them to charge different people different rates depending on who they are.

    are africans more likely to drive high? probably. but what are the numbers. Colorado numbers since making marijuana legal are that car crashes went up 10%. but there’s not many africans in Colorado.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @prime noticer

    Bob Seger wrote "Straight Out Of Denver" as a secret white flight anthem.

    , @res
    @prime noticer


    i figure insurance companies do, but it might be illegal for them to charge different people different rates depending on who they are.
     
    Credit rating tends to map well to the characteristics which actually matter (e.g. not skin color). Which is why there is a fight to ban its use in insurance.

    https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/which-states-prohibit-or-restrict-the-use-of-credit-based-insurance-scores

    Replies: @bomag

  22. @jon

    A 2017 study from the University of Nevada found that drivers are less likely to slow down or stop for Black pedestrians than they are for white ones
     
    Here is the study that proved it's all about Racism:

    Two research participants, one white female and one black female, acted as pedestrians attempting to cross the street at a midblock crosswalk ... Each pedestrian completed approximately 30 crossing attempts at each of the two crosswalks ... There were a total of 126 roadway crosses.
     
    Good sample size, that.
    And the results:

    more cars passed in the nearest lane without yielding while the white pedestrian waited at the curb, and more cars passed through the crosswalk while the black pedestrian was in the same half of the roadway at the high income crosswalk
     
    So, mixed results - sometimes they yielded more to the black lady, sometimes more to the White lady. But what about muh Racism?

    While the failure to yield places all pedestrians at risk, failing to yield while a pedestrians is in the roadway has greater safety implications than failing to yield while a pedestrian is still waiting at the curb. This is a significant finding, as it may be a factor in the increased pedestrian crash rates for minority populations.
     
    Whew! That was close. It looks like we can get published, after all.
    https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S000145751630361X

    Replies: @jon, @Anon

    I seem to recall something published here a while back about a high number black pedestrian deaths were because they were walking drunk home from the bar. They were being run over by black drunk drivers leaving the parking lots of those very same bars.

  23. some more serious, minor questions that would probably be used by leftists to demand Vehicle Equity:

    are africans more likely to have vehicles in worse condition? yeah probably. they don’t do upkeep. brakes and tires are usually in worse shape, the most relevant thing.

    africans mostly only drive American cars. are they less safe than Volvos? Mercedes? Audis? Teslas? yeah, usually. Dodge in particular sucked. but, US companies have given up on cars. so what are africans gonna drive in the future when all the old American cars have aged out? it was only within the last 10 years they seemed to start driving Hyundais, probably because those were the cheapest new cars they could find.

    are they likely to have older vehicles? maybe. it takes work to keep old vehicles operating. africans don’t do upkeep. 20 year old used vehicles seem like the world of poor, mechanically inclined pale people and mexicans driving old hondas and toyotas. but if you are in an old car, it might not have ABS or airbags. really old cars (30 to 40 years or more) are body on frame bricks that crash really hard.

    • Replies: @photondancer
    @prime noticer

    I presume you mean USAain blacks. Actual Africans in Africa are very good at keeping old vehicles operating from what I've read.

  24. Steve, any thoughts on Raiders defensive lineman Carl Nassib? They say he stuffs tight ends like nobody’s business.

  25. @Altai
    OT: The live action Snow White is being played by a Hispanic girl (Though her father was mostly Polish and her mother may have been half Irish she looks and identifies as Colombian and Hispanic) who is also starring in Spielberg's remake of West Side Story as Maria.

    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1407382360530644999

    Say hello to Snow Off-White. Guess all the white actresses playing Snow White at Disney Land will be phased out.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Stan d Mute, @rebel yell, @AndrewR, @mc23

    “Mirror, mirror on the wall,
    Who is the most la atrocidad of them all?”

  26. Off-topic

    A geneticist named Janet Kelso has a talk on Youtube about “archaic genomics”. It’s a very succinct but detailed hour-long summary of Neanderthal and Denisovan admixtures to modern human genomes. Interesting takeaways below, most of which I’d already come across. Probably the most remarkable thing was the clarity with which she discusses differences between African and non-African populations.

    ~All human populations outside Africa have 2% Neanderthal DNA. Populations within Africa have very little (a recent study found some, which is the result of recent non-African admixtures to African populations; but because of the statistical method used for estimating the percent present in non-Africans, the discovery of some within Africans means that the amount in non-Africans was underestimated)

    ~She gives detailed information about the number and quality of sequenced Neanderthal remains

    ~Before modern humans left Africa, there was admixture from them to Neanderthals. This is long before, and seperate from, the admixture from Neanderthals to modern humans.

    ~There are several slides in the presentation which present African humans as in an entirely seperate clade from non-African humans. I found this astonishing.

    ~There are several times in the talk where she references “human diversity”—an exceptable phrase. But she means human biodiversity.

  27. anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:

    They believe they’re above all laws, including the laws of physics!

  28. And many high-speed highways are in or go through communities of color, thanks to a federal effort in the 1950s to modernize the nation’s roadways.

    Highways are about twice as safe as side roads. It is ironic how one of America’s only impressive public work projects is now so demonized. A smarter argument would be to point to the interstate highway system as an argument for more public works.

    Do you ever get the sinking suspicion that journalists and academics do not live in the real world? Have they ever driven from Oak Park through Austin, Chicago. From the Silicon Valley through Oakland or from Manhattan Beach to Watts. The driving gets geometrically more interesting. There is likely a high correlation between a neighborhood’s crime rate and the rate of accident fatalities. Risk averse people inherently have fewer accidents.

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    @Clifford Brown


    Do you ever get the sinking suspicion that journalists and academics do not live in the real world?
     
    Oh my!

    Having spent what seems like an eternity looking out of airplane windows upon the vast empty landscape of North America, Central America, northern South America, and the Caribbean, the answer is obvious. The vast majority of people are retarded sheep following the rules expounded by Mark Twain.

    Overwhelmingly, people are stupid.. And it’s dangerous to underestimate the stupid. We evolve by accident. Nature creates wild opposites and mediates the winner who gets to spawn. Those 4 Billion Africans projected for 2100? They’re either going to starve or they’re going to fuck your daughters.

    Nature, Reality, gives not a single fuck for your feels of racial superiority or inferiority. You think in pathetic human timescale. In 10,000 years, do you seriously believe that there will be separate races of man?

    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…

    Replies: @anon, @Clifford Brown, @mc23

  29. • Replies: @Ralph L
    @anon

    He'd have a better chance of winning in Filly.

  30. Comedian Sacha Baron Cohen may have uncovered an elite pedophile ring operating out of a Las Vegas hotel. This ring trafficks young boys to “politicians and billionaires.” They also can help to silence victims. Cohen alerted the FBI.

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/12/sacha-baron-cohen-vegas-pedophile-ring

    Cohen revealed his “Gio Moldonado” character filmed an interview with an unspecified Las Vegas hotel concierge that broached the subject of Harvey Weinstein’s sexual assault cases. Cohen then pivoted toward “extreme comedy,” implying his character had molested a young boy, though the concierge didn’t react as anticipated. “We thought that the guy would leave the room,” recalled Cohen. “Instead, this concierge stays in the room and I go, ‘listen, you’ve got to help me get rid of the problem.’ And this guy starts advising Gio how to get rid of this issue. We even at one point talk about murdering the boy, and the concierge is just saying, ‘well, listen, I’m really sorry. In this country, we can’t just drown the boy. This is America we don’t do that.’”

    Cohen went on to explain how the concierge offered to connect him with a lawyer to silence the boy, but that wasn’t the end of it. His character next inquired if the concierge could fetch him a “date” with a boy “lower than Bar Mitzvah but older than eight,” and the concierge reportedly replied “yeah, I can put you in touch with somebody who can get you some boys like that.” The stunt was considered “too dark and wrong” for even This Is America, and Cohen’s team subsequently sent their footage to the F.B.I. to investigate. According to Cohen, the bureau evidently decided not to pursue the matter, though the actor noted “This concierge had said that he’d worked for politicians and various billionaires.”

    The basic assertion of QAnon is correct. A non-trivial fraction of the global elite is involved with child prostitution.

    If you want to do more research, look up Pizza Gate, Jeffrey Epstein, the Finders, Boystown Omaha, Larry King, and Craig Spence. You’ll find that many intelligence agencies (especially CIA and Mossad) run sexual blackmail operations, designed to entrap elite individuals and blackmail them for favors. So they traffick various types of prostitutes (including children) around the world. Oddly enough, they often mix in elements of the Occult with their prostitution rings.

    Once entrapped, these elites (such as Bill Clinton) become puppets of the intel agencies. So this actually helps facilitate their continued rise and long-term success.

    This 5-minute video has a good summary of the Finders, who child trafficked children back in the 80s and mixed in bizarre Occult rituals.

    For those who want to achieve a sophisticated understanding of HOW THE WORLD REALLY WORKS, it’s worth doing the research into these fascinating (and above all else disturbing) cases.

    • Thanks: JMcG
    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile commenter Dissident ?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-there-be-a-rooney-rule-for-dating-sites/#comment-4503449 (#309)

    https://www.unz.com/?s=boy&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Dissident&sortby=latest

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Hangnail Hans, @Dissident, @Dissident, @Dissident

  31. There is one and only one lesson here:

    All negro failure and dysfunction is solely the fault of whitey.

    Period.

  32. @Altai
    OT: The live action Snow White is being played by a Hispanic girl (Though her father was mostly Polish and her mother may have been half Irish she looks and identifies as Colombian and Hispanic) who is also starring in Spielberg's remake of West Side Story as Maria.

    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1407382360530644999

    Say hello to Snow Off-White. Guess all the white actresses playing Snow White at Disney Land will be phased out.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Stan d Mute, @rebel yell, @AndrewR, @mc23

    Say hello to Snow Off-White.

    If they want to introduce us to a new character, ‘twerky hoe’, I’m fine with that. But the sickness of renaming MY heroes goes back a VERY VERY long way…

    Dionysus & Bacchus redux..

  33. @Clifford Brown

    And many high-speed highways are in or go through communities of color, thanks to a federal effort in the 1950s to modernize the nation’s roadways.
     
    Highways are about twice as safe as side roads. It is ironic how one of America's only impressive public work projects is now so demonized. A smarter argument would be to point to the interstate highway system as an argument for more public works.

    Do you ever get the sinking suspicion that journalists and academics do not live in the real world? Have they ever driven from Oak Park through Austin, Chicago. From the Silicon Valley through Oakland or from Manhattan Beach to Watts. The driving gets geometrically more interesting. There is likely a high correlation between a neighborhood's crime rate and the rate of accident fatalities. Risk averse people inherently have fewer accidents.

    Replies: @Stan d Mute

    Do you ever get the sinking suspicion that journalists and academics do not live in the real world?

    Oh my!

    Having spent what seems like an eternity looking out of airplane windows upon the vast empty landscape of North America, Central America, northern South America, and the Caribbean, the answer is obvious. The vast majority of people are retarded sheep following the rules expounded by Mark Twain.

    Overwhelmingly, people are stupid.. And it’s dangerous to underestimate the stupid. We evolve by accident. Nature creates wild opposites and mediates the winner who gets to spawn. Those 4 Billion Africans projected for 2100? They’re either going to starve or they’re going to fuck your daughters.

    Nature, Reality, gives not a single fuck for your feels of racial superiority or inferiority. You think in pathetic human timescale. In 10,000 years, do you seriously believe that there will be separate races of man?

    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…

    • Replies: @anon
    @Stan d Mute

    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…

    Ah, the good old days. I wonder what it was like to be among the first human megafauna hunters in North America?

    https://www.thoughtco.com/pre-history-of-clovis-the-americas-170390

    , @Clifford Brown
    @Stan d Mute


    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…
     
    Nothing is written.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EZCG2Ex8Q0

    #MastadonLivesMatter

    *Speaking of (semi) megafauna, the camel at the 1:10 mark has its leg caught in a strap. Poor guy.
    , @mc23
    @Stan d Mute

    I just hope there are a lot of tens in ten thousand years.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek8ikEGhsyE

  34. @Faraday's Bobcat

    You go to Black and brown communities, you go to lower-income communities and you don’t see many sidewalks. You don’t see as many pedestrian crossings.
     
    I see just as many crosswalks, but a lot fewer people using them.

    Replies: @Polistra, @mc23, @Steven Carr, @Alfa158

    Meanwhile, Driving While Black is a real thing. It involves going at least twice the speed limit, breaking every single road-safety regulation, aiming your car at any white pedestrians you see, shadowing more expensive cars in their blind spots on the interstate, slumping down in your seat with one hand on the top of the steering wheel and the other on your cell phone or your blunt, and doing all of this on a suspended or revoked license, without insurance. And seat belts? That’s just white supremacy.

    You racists think doing all of that at the same time is easy? Mad skillz yo.

  35. The color scheme on your graph rings a bell…

  36. “Black people tend to be overrepresented as walkers in this country,” Garrick said. “This is not by choice. In many cases, Black folks cannot afford motor vehicles….”

    Revoked and suspended drivers licenses are also why a lot of people walk.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/vicious-cycle-11-million-live-drivers-license-unpaid/story?id=66504966

  37. @R.G. Camara
    For all the shit Asian women take for their poor driving skills, black women seem to be their equal in terms of horrid driving.

    Or maybe its just women drivers in general.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @JohnnyWalker123, @Anonymous, @Kronos

    They typically don’t try and flee the scene.

    At least when illegal immigrants run away from an accident it’s due to lack of paperwork.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Kronos

    Concrete walls is racist.

  38. Unbelievable how stupid this story is. Our “elites” are shit. Pure shit.

    • Replies: @Franz Liszt von Raiding
    @MattinLA

    Isn’t it amazing how those with the very highest IQs can totally dominate all the other IQ levels and surprisingly those with fairly high IQs? Why are we being led by the walking dark detritus? Their average IQ is proportional literally to the average teenaged white European. Why don’t they know how infantile their intellect is compared with the rest? Compared to Japanese, Nordic, Russian, European they are shockingly moronic. Don’t they know the unbelievable achievements of Asian and white man? Gauss, Euler, Archimedes, Newton? Stay in your Lane INDEED. Should I ask another rhetorical question?

  39. In Death Race 2020, Black Bodies are now the highest point targets. I thought the media knew that.

  40. @JohnnyWalker123
    Comedian Sacha Baron Cohen may have uncovered an elite pedophile ring operating out of a Las Vegas hotel. This ring trafficks young boys to "politicians and billionaires." They also can help to silence victims. Cohen alerted the FBI.

    https://twitter.com/IndieWire/status/1077538196689436673

    https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2018/12/sacha-baron-cohen-vegas-pedophile-ring

    Cohen revealed his “Gio Moldonado” character filmed an interview with an unspecified Las Vegas hotel concierge that broached the subject of Harvey Weinstein’s sexual assault cases. Cohen then pivoted toward “extreme comedy,” implying his character had molested a young boy, though the concierge didn’t react as anticipated. “We thought that the guy would leave the room,” recalled Cohen. “Instead, this concierge stays in the room and I go, ‘listen, you’ve got to help me get rid of the problem.’ And this guy starts advising Gio how to get rid of this issue. We even at one point talk about murdering the boy, and the concierge is just saying, ‘well, listen, I’m really sorry. In this country, we can’t just drown the boy. This is America we don’t do that.’”

    Cohen went on to explain how the concierge offered to connect him with a lawyer to silence the boy, but that wasn’t the end of it. His character next inquired if the concierge could fetch him a “date” with a boy “lower than Bar Mitzvah but older than eight,” and the concierge reportedly replied “yeah, I can put you in touch with somebody who can get you some boys like that.” The stunt was considered “too dark and wrong” for even This Is America, and Cohen’s team subsequently sent their footage to the F.B.I. to investigate. According to Cohen, the bureau evidently decided not to pursue the matter, though the actor noted “This concierge had said that he’d worked for politicians and various billionaires.”
     
    The basic assertion of QAnon is correct. A non-trivial fraction of the global elite is involved with child prostitution.

    If you want to do more research, look up Pizza Gate, Jeffrey Epstein, the Finders, Boystown Omaha, Larry King, and Craig Spence. You'll find that many intelligence agencies (especially CIA and Mossad) run sexual blackmail operations, designed to entrap elite individuals and blackmail them for favors. So they traffick various types of prostitutes (including children) around the world. Oddly enough, they often mix in elements of the Occult with their prostitution rings.

    Once entrapped, these elites (such as Bill Clinton) become puppets of the intel agencies. So this actually helps facilitate their continued rise and long-term success.

    This 5-minute video has a good summary of the Finders, who child trafficked children back in the 80s and mixed in bizarre Occult rituals.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIbXbzK-XIA&feature=emb_title

    For those who want to achieve a sophisticated understanding of HOW THE WORLD REALLY WORKS, it's worth doing the research into these fascinating (and above all else disturbing) cases.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    His posts are disturbing. I have no idea if he's for real, or if he's deliberately trying to bring unwanted attention on this site. Maybe he's trying to create some type of "honey pot" operation to entrap people here.

    I'd be very careful about clicking on any link he posts. If he puts something inappropriate online and you click on his link, suddenly you're guilty of receiving child pornography.

    I don't fully trust every single poster here. Some of the posters here come across as Feds or Hasbara. So if you see anyone here who seems a bit unusual, view them with caution. Who knows what agenda they're pursuing?

    Assuming he's for real, that wouldn't be totally unusual. Lots of gay men have a fascination with younger adolescents. Which is why it's a bad idea to let them in the Boy Scouts....

    Honestly, I think voluntary chemical castration might be the best way forward for these people.

    Replies: @res

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    He's just a rabbi. Nothing serious.

    , @Dissident
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile commenter Dissident ?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-there-be-a-rooney-rule-for-dating-sites/#comment-4503449 (#309)
     

    ROTLFMAO!

    The first of the two links that Jenner Ickham Errican so helpfully included in his above comment is actually not to his initial libelous, completely unsubstantiated attack upon me from early March, but rather to my rebuttal. By all means, I invite people to read not only the full comment of mine found there, but also the additional ones that I linked to therein. The many comments of mine found at the second link Mr. Errican provided also include any number that would be worthwhile to view and read.

    I have repeatedly challenged Mr. Errican to substantiate his scurrilous attacks upon me by actually attempting to articulate a reasoned, substantive argument in support of the libelous assertions and characterizations that he has been maligning me with. To date, and to the best of my awareness, neither he nor anyone else have done so.

    But not only has that not deterred good 'ole Jenner, he has now, by his own admission, gone all-in on some utterly bizarre, one-man jihad against me.

    What motivates such an inordinate obsession with a fellow iSteve commenter, one with whom, at least until now, Mr. Errican has had no more than minimal interaction with? What accounts for such a need to lash-out abusively at me, repeatedly? One can only speculate. But the more he does pursue it; the more he attempts to malign and discredit me, the more boorish, ignorant, petty, foolish, malicious and pathetic he makes himself appear.

    (And now, seeking the sage opinion of JohnnyWalker123, perhaps the single regular iSteve commenter most notorious for regularly regurgitating QAnon-tier pedospiracy tripe...Priceless.)

    , @Dissident
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    MUTUAL CEASEFIRE OFFER

    To All Whom It May Concern:

    Sarcasm and all kidding and acid responses aside for the moment, let me attempt, in all earnestness, to articulate the most critical points here as clearly, directly and succinctly as possible.[1] Keenly aware of how extremely delicate and easily subject to severe misinterpretation this area of my interest is, I have been working frantically to complete a summary overview for the purpose of clarifying my views and perspective in several critical areas. I expect to have this completed and ready to post by the middle of this coming week at the latest (and possibly as early as within hours). (At the moment, I am inclined toward the idea of posting the summary in a thread that will be more current, as both this one as well as the other one in which I had my most recent confrontation with Jenner Ickham Errican have already been considerably pushed-down in the queue by newer threads.)

    I hereby make a plea and present an offer for a mutual cease fire, both to JIE as well as to anyone else who would be inclined at this point to post any further attacks upon me in similar fashion, to immediately cease and desist, and at least postpone the posting of any such comments directed at or about me until after the comment that I am presently working to complete has been posted and you have read it. In return, I am prepared to offer, if necessary in order for you to agree to the aforementioned, to cease and desist, on my part, from posting to any thread any boy images-- the one possible allowable exception I would ask to be permitted would be any instances-- rather unlikely to actually arise-- in which such an image would be clearly, unmistakably, incontrovertibly, eminently topical to the primary topic of the thread.

    Deal?
    ~ ~ ~
    I composed the following before thinking to propose the above.

    MY CHALLENGE, to anyone who, after reading through the above, would persist in maligning me with pejorative, libelous terms ("pedophile", "NAMBLA nonce") such as Jenner Ickham Errican has:

    Cite at least one specific example, from any post of mine, of anything that you would contend can reasonably be construed as either an instance on my part, or as compelling, credible evidence of an instance on my part of any of the following: facilitating, supporting, condoning, encouraging, defending or earnestly, unironically belittling any form of either (A) the sexual abuse or exploitation of any minor (i.e., child or adolescent below the relevant/ generally accepted age-of-consent); or (B) the lewd or lascivious depiction or portrayal of any minor (under the definition given above). Be as clear and specific as possible. Link directly to the specific comment of mine that you are citing. Then give me a reasonable chance to respond.

    If you cannot present credible, compelling evidence of culpability or complicity to any considerable degree, on my part, of any what I enumerated above, then you merely trafficking in innuendo, slander and libel; reckless hurling of loaded, incendiary epithets; and the casting of aspersions.

    [1] Concision is a struggle for me and I acknowledge that my writing often suffers from excessive verbosity that can hinder its accessibility and obscure its clarity. My vocabulary and writing style, frequently being out-of-sync with the prevailing norms of the forum, may create additional barriers to my writing that detract from its utility and effectiveness. All of these are reflective far more of careful, conscientious, often painstaking and meticulous consideration, nuanced thought, and concern with precision and accuracy (even/often to a fault); than of any deliberate effort at ostentation.

    , @Dissident
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile [sic] commenter Dissident ?
     
    First, to reiterate and attempt to bring greater clarity, as concisely as possible, and essential facts and points that are at least mostly already made in many of my posted comments-- including many of the very ones you linked-to.

    1.) It is primarily boys who are in early-to-mid adolescence (roughly ages 10-16, esp. 12-14*) that I am fascinated with.

    2.) The immense appeal I find in such creatures is both far more complex, as well as far more wholesome, than any mere carnal lust, or even mere aesthetic appeal.

    3.) Moreover, even the erotic aspect* itself is not only more complex than most people would assume, but also more refined, with distinct redeeming aspects to it. It is not only completely restrained but also completely precludes and is antithetical to any form of predation or degradation.

    4.) Anyone with even a relatively minimal familiarty with my commenting history will more-than-likely be aware of my emphatic, ardent condemnation of and opposition to both "LGBTQ" ideology, activism and lifestyle, in general; as well as the specific act of buggery.[2]

    5.) Many readers will no doubt be aware, as well, that I have also made frequent mention of non-penetrative forms of male homosexual intercourse [3], presenting them as vastly safer and otherwise decidedly less problematic alternatives to buggery; as lesser evils.

    6.) I fear that some may have formed the dangerously erroneous, false misapprehension that I somehow do not object to, or may even condone sexual activity between adult and adolescent males as long as it is of a non-penetrative variety. My actual position on the matter is that the only time that such behaviors may possibly be considered defensible are in cases where a number of absolutely critical stipulations such as the following would be met:
    (a) the boy would be the one who had taken the initiative, expressing unambiguous, unequivocal interest and desire for intimacy with the man; (b) the boy would have persisted, defying earnest, sustained attempts at dissuasion by the man; (c) it became clear to the man that if he would not engage the boy in one or more forms of non-penetrative, safe, gentle, egalitarian intimacy, the boy would go off and get himself buggered/ sodomized by someone else of far lesser scruples.

    The basic hypothetical outlined above is elaborated upon in greater detail in this comment of mine from April, which also contains a more thorough treatment of much else of what I have adressed here.

    7.) Finally, a request, to anyone who may still, after reading through all that I have written above, remain unclear, uncomfortable, or concerned by any aspect of my interest in boys, or by any of of my comments here that relate to said interest (but who has excercised enough civility not to attack or malign me, and enough decency not to assume the worst about me):

    Kindly present any questions or concerns that you may have for me in a polite manner, as clearly as possible. If you do so, I will make a sincere effort to answer as clearly and honestly as I would find practical and suitable for the forum.

    Thank you.

    NOTES
    [1] The erotic aspect, in particular, is also overwhelmingly limited-to boys who are at a minimum peripubescent, thus the term pedophilia is mostly not applicable even to begin with. Now, some may argue that to insist on such accuracy of usage outside of an academic or clinical context, insistence that pedophilia be restricted to its proper meaning that is limited-to cases of attraction to prepubescent children. A larger problem with the word, however, would nonetheless remain: It has, in common usage, become little more than a lurid epithet, thrown about with reckless abandon. (As we have seen right here with JIE).

    [2] Buggery: the objectively insalubrious, inordinately disease-promoting, anatomically and physiologically unsound act that uses the ano-rectal as if it were the female copulatory one.

    [3] Primarily frot, the term coined by Man2Man Alliance founder Bill Weintraub for the unique phallus-to-phallus act that he argues is the truest form of male homoerotic intercourse.
  41. @Stan d Mute
    @Clifford Brown


    Do you ever get the sinking suspicion that journalists and academics do not live in the real world?
     
    Oh my!

    Having spent what seems like an eternity looking out of airplane windows upon the vast empty landscape of North America, Central America, northern South America, and the Caribbean, the answer is obvious. The vast majority of people are retarded sheep following the rules expounded by Mark Twain.

    Overwhelmingly, people are stupid.. And it’s dangerous to underestimate the stupid. We evolve by accident. Nature creates wild opposites and mediates the winner who gets to spawn. Those 4 Billion Africans projected for 2100? They’re either going to starve or they’re going to fuck your daughters.

    Nature, Reality, gives not a single fuck for your feels of racial superiority or inferiority. You think in pathetic human timescale. In 10,000 years, do you seriously believe that there will be separate races of man?

    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…

    Replies: @anon, @Clifford Brown, @mc23

    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…

    Ah, the good old days. I wonder what it was like to be among the first human megafauna hunters in North America?

    https://www.thoughtco.com/pre-history-of-clovis-the-americas-170390

  42. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile commenter Dissident ?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-there-be-a-rooney-rule-for-dating-sites/#comment-4503449 (#309)

    https://www.unz.com/?s=boy&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Dissident&sortby=latest

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Hangnail Hans, @Dissident, @Dissident, @Dissident

    His posts are disturbing. I have no idea if he’s for real, or if he’s deliberately trying to bring unwanted attention on this site. Maybe he’s trying to create some type of “honey pot” operation to entrap people here.

    I’d be very careful about clicking on any link he posts. If he puts something inappropriate online and you click on his link, suddenly you’re guilty of receiving child pornography.

    I don’t fully trust every single poster here. Some of the posters here come across as Feds or Hasbara. So if you see anyone here who seems a bit unusual, view them with caution. Who knows what agenda they’re pursuing?

    Assuming he’s for real, that wouldn’t be totally unusual. Lots of gay men have a fascination with younger adolescents. Which is why it’s a bad idea to let them in the Boy Scouts….

    Honestly, I think voluntary chemical castration might be the best way forward for these people.

    • Replies: @res
    @JohnnyWalker123


    Maybe he’s trying to create some type of “honey pot” operation to entrap people here.
     
    That is an interesting thought. Though I thought this was a good comment and responded positively to it, it does have an air of entrapment about it IMHO.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/robin-diangelos-miasma-theory-racism-comes-out-of-our-pores-as-white-people/#comment-4734191
  43. @Rooster11
    Wait just a minute!… you’re telling me that coming down the on ramp and immediately swerving into the far left lane in heavy traffic, only to swerve all the way back to the right and get off AT THE VERY NEXT OFF RAMP is possibly dangerous and reckless driving???

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Everyone knows the right-hand lanes are for wiggers and uncle toms.

  44. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile commenter Dissident ?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-there-be-a-rooney-rule-for-dating-sites/#comment-4503449 (#309)

    https://www.unz.com/?s=boy&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Dissident&sortby=latest

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Hangnail Hans, @Dissident, @Dissident, @Dissident

    He’s just a rabbi. Nothing serious.

  45. @Kronos
    @R.G. Camara

    They typically don’t try and flee the scene.

    https://youtu.be/NjwktXZOCqs

    At least when illegal immigrants run away from an accident it’s due to lack of paperwork.

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    Concrete walls is racist.

  46. @prime noticer
    some more serious, minor questions that would probably be used by leftists to demand Vehicle Equity:

    are africans more likely to have vehicles in worse condition? yeah probably. they don't do upkeep. brakes and tires are usually in worse shape, the most relevant thing.

    africans mostly only drive American cars. are they less safe than Volvos? Mercedes? Audis? Teslas? yeah, usually. Dodge in particular sucked. but, US companies have given up on cars. so what are africans gonna drive in the future when all the old American cars have aged out? it was only within the last 10 years they seemed to start driving Hyundais, probably because those were the cheapest new cars they could find.

    are they likely to have older vehicles? maybe. it takes work to keep old vehicles operating. africans don't do upkeep. 20 year old used vehicles seem like the world of poor, mechanically inclined pale people and mexicans driving old hondas and toyotas. but if you are in an old car, it might not have ABS or airbags. really old cars (30 to 40 years or more) are body on frame bricks that crash really hard.

    Replies: @photondancer

    I presume you mean USAain blacks. Actual Africans in Africa are very good at keeping old vehicles operating from what I’ve read.

  47. @MattinLA
    Unbelievable how stupid this story is. Our "elites" are shit. Pure shit.

    Replies: @Franz Liszt von Raiding

    Isn’t it amazing how those with the very highest IQs can totally dominate all the other IQ levels and surprisingly those with fairly high IQs? Why are we being led by the walking dark detritus? Their average IQ is proportional literally to the average teenaged white European. Why don’t they know how infantile their intellect is compared with the rest? Compared to Japanese, Nordic, Russian, European they are shockingly moronic. Don’t they know the unbelievable achievements of Asian and white man? Gauss, Euler, Archimedes, Newton? Stay in your Lane INDEED. Should I ask another rhetorical question?

  48. @Stan d Mute
    @Clifford Brown


    Do you ever get the sinking suspicion that journalists and academics do not live in the real world?
     
    Oh my!

    Having spent what seems like an eternity looking out of airplane windows upon the vast empty landscape of North America, Central America, northern South America, and the Caribbean, the answer is obvious. The vast majority of people are retarded sheep following the rules expounded by Mark Twain.

    Overwhelmingly, people are stupid.. And it’s dangerous to underestimate the stupid. We evolve by accident. Nature creates wild opposites and mediates the winner who gets to spawn. Those 4 Billion Africans projected for 2100? They’re either going to starve or they’re going to fuck your daughters.

    Nature, Reality, gives not a single fuck for your feels of racial superiority or inferiority. You think in pathetic human timescale. In 10,000 years, do you seriously believe that there will be separate races of man?

    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…

    Replies: @anon, @Clifford Brown, @mc23

    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…

    Nothing is written.

    #MastadonLivesMatter

    *Speaking of (semi) megafauna, the camel at the 1:10 mark has its leg caught in a strap. Poor guy.

  49. @Altai
    OT: The live action Snow White is being played by a Hispanic girl (Though her father was mostly Polish and her mother may have been half Irish she looks and identifies as Colombian and Hispanic) who is also starring in Spielberg's remake of West Side Story as Maria.

    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1407382360530644999

    Say hello to Snow Off-White. Guess all the white actresses playing Snow White at Disney Land will be phased out.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Stan d Mute, @rebel yell, @AndrewR, @mc23

    Say hello to Snow Off-White.

    I get it and would also be annoyed at yet another instance of black bodies being thrust upon us for political reasons. But there is an overriding law of the universe that cancels out these considerations:
    Hot chicks are hot!
    As long as Snow White has a great body I don’t care what color she is. Drama always requires us to suspend reality and let our imaginations rule, and the only inviolate reality requirement for this fairy tale is that Snow White be a good-looking female. This actress seems to fit the bill, so I say let the show go on.

  50. Outbreak of Sherman McCoys post May 2020? Maybe many Great White Defendants still to be counted in this black roadkill?

  51. @Altai
    OT: The live action Snow White is being played by a Hispanic girl (Though her father was mostly Polish and her mother may have been half Irish she looks and identifies as Colombian and Hispanic) who is also starring in Spielberg's remake of West Side Story as Maria.

    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1407382360530644999

    Say hello to Snow Off-White. Guess all the white actresses playing Snow White at Disney Land will be phased out.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Stan d Mute, @rebel yell, @AndrewR, @mc23

    She’s pretty hot

  52. @Faraday's Bobcat

    You go to Black and brown communities, you go to lower-income communities and you don’t see many sidewalks. You don’t see as many pedestrian crossings.
     
    I see just as many crosswalks, but a lot fewer people using them.

    Replies: @Polistra, @mc23, @Steven Carr, @Alfa158

    I drive through a nearby black inner city on a regular basis and sometimes feel I am playing a game of chicken with black pedestrians. They are incredibly insouciance compared to walkers in other neighborhoods.

    This is also aggravated by a black tendency to double park even when there’s a space 20 feet ahead. This happens constantly on the route I drive making the street one lane and blocking the view. I saw someone parallel parking the other week and felt like getting out and saluting.

  53. @Altai
    OT: The live action Snow White is being played by a Hispanic girl (Though her father was mostly Polish and her mother may have been half Irish she looks and identifies as Colombian and Hispanic) who is also starring in Spielberg's remake of West Side Story as Maria.

    https://twitter.com/Variety/status/1407382360530644999

    Say hello to Snow Off-White. Guess all the white actresses playing Snow White at Disney Land will be phased out.

    Replies: @Matthew Kelly, @Stan d Mute, @rebel yell, @AndrewR, @mc23

    I thought Hispanics only counted as White for crime statistics?

  54. @Stan d Mute
    @Clifford Brown


    Do you ever get the sinking suspicion that journalists and academics do not live in the real world?
     
    Oh my!

    Having spent what seems like an eternity looking out of airplane windows upon the vast empty landscape of North America, Central America, northern South America, and the Caribbean, the answer is obvious. The vast majority of people are retarded sheep following the rules expounded by Mark Twain.

    Overwhelmingly, people are stupid.. And it’s dangerous to underestimate the stupid. We evolve by accident. Nature creates wild opposites and mediates the winner who gets to spawn. Those 4 Billion Africans projected for 2100? They’re either going to starve or they’re going to fuck your daughters.

    Nature, Reality, gives not a single fuck for your feels of racial superiority or inferiority. You think in pathetic human timescale. In 10,000 years, do you seriously believe that there will be separate races of man?

    10,000 years ago there was megafauna in North America my friends…

    Replies: @anon, @Clifford Brown, @mc23

    I just hope there are a lot of tens in ten thousand years.

  55. Just after the black is ejected from his car, he becomes a walker!

    Makes sense.

    After all, just after you die of cancer, you become a COVID fatality too.

  56. @prime noticer
    more likely to speed, more likely to do stupid stuff when driving. it's not hard to understand. i didn't realize any agency was keeping FBI-like data on who was getting killed in crashes. that's a new one for me.

    i figure insurance companies do, but it might be illegal for them to charge different people different rates depending on who they are.

    are africans more likely to drive high? probably. but what are the numbers. Colorado numbers since making marijuana legal are that car crashes went up 10%. but there's not many africans in Colorado.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @res

    Bob Seger wrote “Straight Out Of Denver” as a secret white flight anthem.

  57. “Look, as a daily walker, I’m a big advocate of improved pedestrian safety. I’ve said that if we are going to make the money printer go brrrrr to pay for infrastructure, more advanced traffic lights and crosswalks would be high on my personal priority list.”

    It may be different in SoCal, but in other states, there is a walking option available. Walk on high school tracks when there aren’t any events going on, which in turn solves the pedestrian safety problem. Or could also walk on trails that don’t involve cars, roads, etc.

  58. @Matthew Kelly
    Every time I read some of this MSM slop blaming whitey for __!!!BLACK!!!__ Darwin Award-tier self-destructiveness, I often try to imagine being a white adult in year 2021 and still thinking the MSM is a credible source of objective, unbiased information.

    And I always get stuck on one of three possibilities:
    1) The MSM is somehow fudging their revenue and viewer/subscriber numbers to make them seem more popular than they really are;
    2) A depressingly large percentage of white folk are so credulous, stupid, and/or dogmatic that they actually buy this crap (and deserve to get whatever it is they're asking for, good and hard); or
    3) I'm batshit crazy and the MSM actually is a font of objective, unbiased information.

    None of these are mutually exclusive but my gut's telling me it's #2, largely alone.

    Change my mind.

    Replies: @Etruscan Film Star, @Desiderius, @Jack D

    2) A depressingly large percentage of white folk are so credulous, stupid, and/or dogmatic that they actually buy this crap (and deserve to get whatever it is they’re asking for, good and hard) …

    Yes, but also that a depressingly large percentage of whites see the MSM’s bias and pandering to persons of choler but feel they have to keep stumm or risk being called racist. Too bad they don’t get it that just wearing the skin they were born with means they’ll be tagged anyway.

  59. @JimB
    Is it racist to notice that blacks slowly saunter across busy thoroughfares at oblique angles to the curb, kind of daring you to hit them.

    Replies: @Hannah Katz

    They have a tough time lining up for service at a store or other establishment. Always wandering about instead of staying in line. Then they try to cut in line and accuse others of R….

    Also maybe talking on the phone and texting while driving is a factor. This affects women of all ethnic groups more than men, but especially the B…..s

    • Agree: anonymouseperson
  60. @Matthew Kelly
    Every time I read some of this MSM slop blaming whitey for __!!!BLACK!!!__ Darwin Award-tier self-destructiveness, I often try to imagine being a white adult in year 2021 and still thinking the MSM is a credible source of objective, unbiased information.

    And I always get stuck on one of three possibilities:
    1) The MSM is somehow fudging their revenue and viewer/subscriber numbers to make them seem more popular than they really are;
    2) A depressingly large percentage of white folk are so credulous, stupid, and/or dogmatic that they actually buy this crap (and deserve to get whatever it is they're asking for, good and hard); or
    3) I'm batshit crazy and the MSM actually is a font of objective, unbiased information.

    None of these are mutually exclusive but my gut's telling me it's #2, largely alone.

    Change my mind.

    Replies: @Etruscan Film Star, @Desiderius, @Jack D

    It’s 2) but they’re just old.

  61. Anonymous[121] • Disclaimer says:

    In the NY metro area during the pandemic, based on many anecdotal reports, cops stopped pulling people over for traffic violations. So speeding, tailgating, and probably DUI all should be expected to have dramatically increased. Why? I heard it was police officers’ aversion to social contact, but you would expect the racial reckoning played a part too.

    I look at traffic stops as “stop and frisk” for shitty drivers, especially in the testosterone fueled 17-25 age cohort. As we know, stop and frisk is a key weapon in the arsenal of crime prevention, so the diminished implementation of the traffic version of it should likewise yield similar results.

  62. It started with…Shaft! Just launch yourself into the street, because you’re co0l and tough.

  63. @jon
    @jon

    And here is the graph showing that "more cars passed through the crosswalk while the black pedestrian was in the same half of the roadway":
    https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S000145751630361X-gr2.jpg
    Notice the "Mean number of cars ..." on the left axis. It's at about 0.28.

    So, one asshole didn't yield to the black lady, now American drivers are racist.

    Replies: @jon, @GeraldB

    Note the error bars on those graphs. Statistically speaking, there is no significant difference between low-income/high-income neighborhoods, and no significant difference between white/black pedestrians. The error bars overlap.

    The errors are huge because of the very small sample sizes.

    • Thanks: photondancer
    • Replies: @jon
    @GeraldB

    Another good point, thanks. Study is absolute horse shit.

  64. Pedestrian fatalities do seem to be higher in Black people.

    Perhaps the police could clamp down on jaywalking.

    Does anybody know if that has been tried?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Steven Carr


    Does anybody know if that has been tried?
     
    Officer Darren Wilson tried it in Ferguson. Michael Brown hasn't jaywalked since.
  65. @Faraday's Bobcat

    You go to Black and brown communities, you go to lower-income communities and you don’t see many sidewalks. You don’t see as many pedestrian crossings.
     
    I see just as many crosswalks, but a lot fewer people using them.

    Replies: @Polistra, @mc23, @Steven Carr, @Alfa158

    I think when Black people moved to cities like Newark and Baltimore, the old crosswalks were taken away by white people when they fled. And this is why Black communities have fewer crosswalks.

  66. @anon
    OT
    Curtis Sliwa wins Republican nomination for Mare of New York.

    https://nypost.com/2021/06/22/curtis-sliwa-cruises-to-easy-win-over-mateo-in-republican-primary-for-nyc-mayor/

    Replies: @Ralph L

    He’d have a better chance of winning in Filly.

  67. @Matthew Kelly
    Every time I read some of this MSM slop blaming whitey for __!!!BLACK!!!__ Darwin Award-tier self-destructiveness, I often try to imagine being a white adult in year 2021 and still thinking the MSM is a credible source of objective, unbiased information.

    And I always get stuck on one of three possibilities:
    1) The MSM is somehow fudging their revenue and viewer/subscriber numbers to make them seem more popular than they really are;
    2) A depressingly large percentage of white folk are so credulous, stupid, and/or dogmatic that they actually buy this crap (and deserve to get whatever it is they're asking for, good and hard); or
    3) I'm batshit crazy and the MSM actually is a font of objective, unbiased information.

    None of these are mutually exclusive but my gut's telling me it's #2, largely alone.

    Change my mind.

    Replies: @Etruscan Film Star, @Desiderius, @Jack D

    A depressingly large percentage of white folk are so credulous, stupid, and/or dogmatic that they actually buy this crap

    It’s not all whites but certain segments of the white population. For example, non-college white men vote something like 3 to 1 Republican. But that leaves other segments on the other side of the fence, such as college educated white females. Even they know in their heart of hearts what is true (see their revealed preference as to where they live, where they send their kids to school, whether they walk down ghetto streets alone at night, etc.) but the feeling of superiority you get from being a Liberal is like a drug high – it’s just too good to give up.

    • Agree: By-tor
  68. @jon
    @jon

    Sorry to be a serial poster on this, but the study just keeps getting dumber.
    The high and low-income intersections:


    The high income neighborhood street consisted of six vehicle lanes with a speed limit of 45mph, and the low income neighborhood had four vehicle lanes with a speed limit of 35mph.
     
    The method of counting:

    A trained observer recorded the (1) number of cars that passed in the nearest lane before yielding while the pedestrian waited near the crosswalk at the curb (2) number of cars that passed through the crosswalk with the pedestrian in the same half of the roadway (total cars that passed in the first half of the roadway while pedestrian was in that segment of the roadway summed with total cars that passed in the second half of the roadway while the pedestrian was in that segment of the roadway).
     
    So our asshole driver that cut off the black lady, getting us all branded as racists in the process, could have had a full empty lane between himself and the lady when he "cut her off." It's all just too stupid, but it got published, so it's good enough for NBC News.

    Replies: @anon

    This “research” is a bit more complicated than some high school science fair projects, but not much more. I’ve seen work done by college sophomores that was more in depth and reproducible.

    “Research has shown”, “studies show”, etc. is like someone quoting a horoscope.

    • Agree: jon
  69. @Faraday's Bobcat

    You go to Black and brown communities, you go to lower-income communities and you don’t see many sidewalks. You don’t see as many pedestrian crossings.
     
    I see just as many crosswalks, but a lot fewer people using them.

    Replies: @Polistra, @mc23, @Steven Carr, @Alfa158

    “You go to Black and brown communities, you go to lower-income communities and you don’t see many sidewalks. You don’t see as many pedestrian crossings.”

    That the beauty of having total control of The Megaphone. You can make ludicrous, fact-free assertions like that, secure in the knowledge that no one is going to call you on it.

    • Agree: By-tor, William Badwhite
  70. When a passenger vehicle (3,000 pounds) collides with a motorcycle (500 pounds), the motorcycle rider doesn’t stand a chance.

    When an 18-wheeler (80,000 pounds) collides with a passenger vehicle, the occupants of the lighter vehicle don’t stand a chance.

    When any of the above collide with a pedestrian (or a “pedalist”), the ped’ist doesn’t stand a chance.

    Yet only motorcyclists are required to wear helmets while riding.

    Anti-Harleyism.

    [MORE]

    All we know is that a biker, traveling at 20 m/s, who wears a 1.5 kg helmet, is 300J more energetic than one without.

    Bikers also succumb to non-head injuries. Should we also require motorcyclists to wear rubber body armor?

    Helmets mandatory for kids who walk/ride to school.

  71. res says:
    @prime noticer
    more likely to speed, more likely to do stupid stuff when driving. it's not hard to understand. i didn't realize any agency was keeping FBI-like data on who was getting killed in crashes. that's a new one for me.

    i figure insurance companies do, but it might be illegal for them to charge different people different rates depending on who they are.

    are africans more likely to drive high? probably. but what are the numbers. Colorado numbers since making marijuana legal are that car crashes went up 10%. but there's not many africans in Colorado.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @res

    i figure insurance companies do, but it might be illegal for them to charge different people different rates depending on who they are.

    Credit rating tends to map well to the characteristics which actually matter (e.g. not skin color). Which is why there is a fight to ban its use in insurance.

    https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/which-states-prohibit-or-restrict-the-use-of-credit-based-insurance-scores

    • Replies: @bomag
    @res


    Which is why there is a fight to ban its use in insurance.
     
    Zing!

    Reminds of the ban on using genomic data for insurance purposes.

    Replies: @res

  72. res says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    His posts are disturbing. I have no idea if he's for real, or if he's deliberately trying to bring unwanted attention on this site. Maybe he's trying to create some type of "honey pot" operation to entrap people here.

    I'd be very careful about clicking on any link he posts. If he puts something inappropriate online and you click on his link, suddenly you're guilty of receiving child pornography.

    I don't fully trust every single poster here. Some of the posters here come across as Feds or Hasbara. So if you see anyone here who seems a bit unusual, view them with caution. Who knows what agenda they're pursuing?

    Assuming he's for real, that wouldn't be totally unusual. Lots of gay men have a fascination with younger adolescents. Which is why it's a bad idea to let them in the Boy Scouts....

    Honestly, I think voluntary chemical castration might be the best way forward for these people.

    Replies: @res

    Maybe he’s trying to create some type of “honey pot” operation to entrap people here.

    That is an interesting thought. Though I thought this was a good comment and responded positively to it, it does have an air of entrapment about it IMHO.
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/robin-diangelos-miasma-theory-racism-comes-out-of-our-pores-as-white-people/#comment-4734191

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  73. Anonymous[488] • Disclaimer says:

    Or a big effort by blacks in the 1960s to move to conveniently located, short-commute urban neighborhoods that are well-served by highways and public transit.

    Curious to hear the example behind this. I would believe black neighborhoods (but not only those, and not specifically for racial disprivilege reasons) tended to lose out in post-WWII freeway-resistance activism vs. developers/planners. That’s the general metier worked by this J.G. Ballard “Concrete Island”-esque meme about anthropomorphized overpasses attacking black bodies.

    However, between blacks, Latinos, Asians, and the rest I’d say the first are least likely to live on a proximate bus/train line, these typically following a multilane thoroughfare or existing railway branch. If you needed a focus group that didn’t care about “urban sprawl” you could ask some black people.

  74. @Steven Carr
    Pedestrian fatalities do seem to be higher in Black people.

    Perhaps the police could clamp down on jaywalking.

    Does anybody know if that has been tried?

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Does anybody know if that has been tried?

    Officer Darren Wilson tried it in Ferguson. Michael Brown hasn’t jaywalked since.

    • Agree: bomag
  75. Racial wreckening! OK, that made my week.

  76. Black auto accidents? They drive like crazy people even when the car is new. In DC you can spot a black driver by the dents in his car. Jumping feeder lanes, weaving in and out of traffic at high speed, cutting off other drivers, surely this doesn’t cause accidents.

  77. @res
    @prime noticer


    i figure insurance companies do, but it might be illegal for them to charge different people different rates depending on who they are.
     
    Credit rating tends to map well to the characteristics which actually matter (e.g. not skin color). Which is why there is a fight to ban its use in insurance.

    https://www.experian.com/blogs/ask-experian/which-states-prohibit-or-restrict-the-use-of-credit-based-insurance-scores

    Replies: @bomag

    Which is why there is a fight to ban its use in insurance.

    Zing!

    Reminds of the ban on using genomic data for insurance purposes.

    • Replies: @res
    @bomag


    Reminds of the ban on using genomic data for insurance purposes.
     
    Interesting comparison. I consider that question difficult ethically. Do you know of any good discussions?

    Allowing individuals to get genetic tests while at the same time prohibiting insurers from using the results (along with insurance being voluntary or rates being variable) creates a potentially devastating impact on insurers.

    As a simple hypothetical, consider if there was voluntary insurance for Alzheimer's Disease and all people knew their APOE genetic status, but insurers could not look at that information. Roughly I see the following alternatives.

    1. The insurers charge rates appropriate for people homozygous for APOE4 (about 2% of people per this paper) and 98% of people either massively overpay for the insurance or don't have access to it.

    2. The insurers charge something like the rates appropriate for the population risk of AD and go bankrupt in 50 years when the proportion of APOE4 people who smartly chose to insure get AD.

    For anyone who cares, things are even more complicated than that. For example, see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apolipoprotein_E#Alzheimer's_disease

    As of 2012, the E4 variant was the largest known genetic risk factor for late-onset sporadic Alzheimer's disease (AD) in a variety of ethnic groups.[58] However, the E4 variant does not correlate with risk in every population. Nigerian people have the highest observed frequency of the APOE4 allele in world populations,[59] but AD is rare among them.[59][60] This may be due to their low cholesterol levels.[59][60][61][62] Caucasian and Japanese carriers of two E4 alleles have between 10 and 30 times the risk of developing AD by 75 years of age, as compared to those not carrying any E4 alleles.
     
    P.S. Allowing insurers to use genetic test results has its own set of problems. In practice I think we would end up with a huge quantity of people unable to insure against the things which pose meaningful risk to them. Then there is the imperfect nature of these associations!
  78. @GeraldB
    @jon

    Note the error bars on those graphs. Statistically speaking, there is no significant difference between low-income/high-income neighborhoods, and no significant difference between white/black pedestrians. The error bars overlap.

    The errors are huge because of the very small sample sizes.

    Replies: @jon

    Another good point, thanks. Study is absolute horse shit.

  79. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile commenter Dissident ?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-there-be-a-rooney-rule-for-dating-sites/#comment-4503449 (#309)

    https://www.unz.com/?s=boy&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Dissident&sortby=latest

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Hangnail Hans, @Dissident, @Dissident, @Dissident

    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile commenter Dissident ?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-there-be-a-rooney-rule-for-dating-sites/#comment-4503449 (#309)

    ROTLFMAO!

    The first of the two links that Jenner Ickham Errican so helpfully included in his above comment is actually not to his initial libelous, completely unsubstantiated attack upon me from early March, but rather to my rebuttal. By all means, I invite people to read not only the full comment of mine found there, but also the additional ones that I linked to therein. The many comments of mine found at the second link Mr. Errican provided also include any number that would be worthwhile to view and read.

    I have repeatedly challenged Mr. Errican to substantiate his scurrilous attacks upon me by actually attempting to articulate a reasoned, substantive argument in support of the libelous assertions and characterizations that he has been maligning me with. To date, and to the best of my awareness, neither he nor anyone else have done so.

    But not only has that not deterred good ‘ole Jenner, he has now, by his own admission, gone all-in on some utterly bizarre, one-man jihad against me.

    What motivates such an inordinate obsession with a fellow iSteve commenter, one with whom, at least until now, Mr. Errican has had no more than minimal interaction with? What accounts for such a need to lash-out abusively at me, repeatedly? One can only speculate. But the more he does pursue it; the more he attempts to malign and discredit me, the more boorish, ignorant, petty, foolish, malicious and pathetic he makes himself appear.

    (And now, seeking the sage opinion of JohnnyWalker123, perhaps the single regular iSteve commenter most notorious for regularly regurgitating QAnon-tier pedospiracy tripe…Priceless.)

  80. res says:
    @bomag
    @res


    Which is why there is a fight to ban its use in insurance.
     
    Zing!

    Reminds of the ban on using genomic data for insurance purposes.

    Replies: @res

    Reminds of the ban on using genomic data for insurance purposes.

    Interesting comparison. I consider that question difficult ethically. Do you know of any good discussions?

    Allowing individuals to get genetic tests while at the same time prohibiting insurers from using the results (along with insurance being voluntary or rates being variable) creates a potentially devastating impact on insurers.

    As a simple hypothetical, consider if there was voluntary insurance for Alzheimer’s Disease and all people knew their APOE genetic status, but insurers could not look at that information. Roughly I see the following alternatives.

    1. The insurers charge rates appropriate for people homozygous for APOE4 (about 2% of people per this paper) and 98% of people either massively overpay for the insurance or don’t have access to it.

    2. The insurers charge something like the rates appropriate for the population risk of AD and go bankrupt in 50 years when the proportion of APOE4 people who smartly chose to insure get AD.

    For anyone who cares, things are even more complicated than that. For example, see
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apolipoprotein_E#Alzheimer’s_disease

    As of 2012, the E4 variant was the largest known genetic risk factor for late-onset sporadic Alzheimer’s disease (AD) in a variety of ethnic groups.[58] However, the E4 variant does not correlate with risk in every population. Nigerian people have the highest observed frequency of the APOE4 allele in world populations,[59] but AD is rare among them.[59][60] This may be due to their low cholesterol levels.[59][60][61][62] Caucasian and Japanese carriers of two E4 alleles have between 10 and 30 times the risk of developing AD by 75 years of age, as compared to those not carrying any E4 alleles.

    P.S. Allowing insurers to use genetic test results has its own set of problems. In practice I think we would end up with a huge quantity of people unable to insure against the things which pose meaningful risk to them. Then there is the imperfect nature of these associations!

  81. “The sudden slaughter on the highways of blacks (black road deaths were up 55% in June 2020 over June 2019) is obviously due to the Racial Reckoning…”

    Correlation does equal causation, Mr. Sailer.

    “leading to black feelings above suddenly being above the law…”

    Had you done some NOTICING, you would realize NHTSA’s research suggests that during the lockdowns, driving patterns changed significantly across the board. Why? Drivers who remained on the roads engaged in riskier behavior, like speeding, failing to wear seat belts, and driving under the influence. Traffic data also shows average speeds increased throughout the year, and examples of extreme speeds became more common. These trends were especially prominent in southern states, where whites there especially were more likely to resist COVID 19 restrictions. In fact, total estimated fatalities increased on rural local/collector roads (up 11%). The type of driver still made trips despite the stay-at-home orders while fewer cars on the roads emboldened more risk takers to engage in faster driving, which, in turn, made streets more deadly. Data collected from trauma centers also show an increase in the number of people ejected from vehicles, which skew white. So it was a broad range of people who exemplified a hazard to life and limb on our highways and byways.

    “and the cops backing off making traffic stops of blacks driving badly as The Establishment was demanding”

    The reality, iSteve, is that the police did NOT “back off” to arrest blacks for bad behavior.

    https://www.austinmonitor.com/stories/2020/11/report-finds-racial-bias-in-2019-traffic-stops/

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-chicago-police-traffic-stops-20190111-story.html

    https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-sfpd-racial-profiling-traffic-stops/6422281

    https://news.wosu.org/news/2019-12-19/black-drivers-and-pedestrians-most-likely-traffic-stop-targets-in-ohios-biggest-cities

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @res
    @Corvinus

    So what is your explanation?

  82. @Corvinus
    "The sudden slaughter on the highways of blacks (black road deaths were up 55% in June 2020 over June 2019) is obviously due to the Racial Reckoning..."

    Correlation does equal causation, Mr. Sailer.

    "leading to black feelings above suddenly being above the law..."

    Had you done some NOTICING, you would realize NHTSA’s research suggests that during the lockdowns, driving patterns changed significantly across the board. Why? Drivers who remained on the roads engaged in riskier behavior, like speeding, failing to wear seat belts, and driving under the influence. Traffic data also shows average speeds increased throughout the year, and examples of extreme speeds became more common. These trends were especially prominent in southern states, where whites there especially were more likely to resist COVID 19 restrictions. In fact, total estimated fatalities increased on rural local/collector roads (up 11%). The type of driver still made trips despite the stay-at-home orders while fewer cars on the roads emboldened more risk takers to engage in faster driving, which, in turn, made streets more deadly. Data collected from trauma centers also show an increase in the number of people ejected from vehicles, which skew white. So it was a broad range of people who exemplified a hazard to life and limb on our highways and byways.

    "and the cops backing off making traffic stops of blacks driving badly as The Establishment was demanding"

    The reality, iSteve, is that the police did NOT "back off" to arrest blacks for bad behavior.

    https://www.austinmonitor.com/stories/2020/11/report-finds-racial-bias-in-2019-traffic-stops/

    https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-met-chicago-police-traffic-stops-20190111-story.html

    https://abc7news.com/san-francisco-police-sfpd-racial-profiling-traffic-stops/6422281

    https://news.wosu.org/news/2019-12-19/black-drivers-and-pedestrians-most-likely-traffic-stop-targets-in-ohios-biggest-cities

    Replies: @res

    So what is your explanation?

  83. “Drivers are less likely to stop or slow down for black pedestrians…”

    Especially at night. Not my fault; all I see is teeth.

  84. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile commenter Dissident ?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-there-be-a-rooney-rule-for-dating-sites/#comment-4503449 (#309)

    https://www.unz.com/?s=boy&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Dissident&sortby=latest

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Hangnail Hans, @Dissident, @Dissident, @Dissident

    MUTUAL CEASEFIRE OFFER

    To All Whom It May Concern:

    Sarcasm and all kidding and acid responses aside for the moment, let me attempt, in all earnestness, to articulate the most critical points here as clearly, directly and succinctly as possible.[1] Keenly aware of how extremely delicate and easily subject to severe misinterpretation this area of my interest is, I have been working frantically to complete a summary overview for the purpose of clarifying my views and perspective in several critical areas. I expect to have this completed and ready to post by the middle of this coming week at the latest (and possibly as early as within hours). (At the moment, I am inclined toward the idea of posting the summary in a thread that will be more current, as both this one as well as the other one in which I had my most recent confrontation with Jenner Ickham Errican have already been considerably pushed-down in the queue by newer threads.)

    I hereby make a plea and present an offer for a mutual cease fire, both to JIE as well as to anyone else who would be inclined at this point to post any further attacks upon me in similar fashion,

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    to immediately cease and desist, and at least postpone the posting of any such comments directed at or about me until after the comment that I am presently working to complete has been posted and you have read it. In return, I am prepared to offer, if necessary in order for you to agree to the aforementioned, to cease and desist, on my part, from posting to any thread any boy images– the one possible allowable exception I would ask to be permitted would be any instances– rather unlikely to actually arise– in which such an image would be clearly, unmistakably, incontrovertibly, eminently topical to the primary topic of the thread.

    Deal?
    ~ ~ ~
    I composed the following before thinking to propose the above.

    MY CHALLENGE, to anyone who, after reading through the above, would persist in maligning me with pejorative, libelous terms (“pedophile”, “NAMBLA nonce”) such as Jenner Ickham Errican has:

    Cite at least one specific example, from any post of mine, of anything that you would contend can reasonably be construed as either an instance on my part, or as compelling, credible evidence of an instance on my part of any of the following: facilitating, supporting, condoning, encouraging, defending or earnestly, unironically belittling any form of either (A) the sexual abuse or exploitation of any minor (i.e., child or adolescent below the relevant/ generally accepted age-of-consent); or (B) the lewd or lascivious depiction or portrayal of any minor (under the definition given above). Be as clear and specific as possible. Link directly to the specific comment of mine that you are citing. Then give me a reasonable chance to respond.

    If you cannot present credible, compelling evidence of culpability or complicity to any considerable degree, on my part, of any what I enumerated above, then you merely trafficking in innuendo, slander and libel; reckless hurling of loaded, incendiary epithets; and the casting of aspersions.

    [1] Concision is a struggle for me and I acknowledge that my writing often suffers from excessive verbosity that can hinder its accessibility and obscure its clarity. My vocabulary and writing style, frequently being out-of-sync with the prevailing norms of the forum, may create additional barriers to my writing that detract from its utility and effectiveness. All of these are reflective far more of careful, conscientious, often painstaking and meticulous consideration, nuanced thought, and concern with precision and accuracy (even/often to a fault); than of any deliberate effort at ostentation.

  85. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile commenter Dissident ?

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/will-there-be-a-rooney-rule-for-dating-sites/#comment-4503449 (#309)

    https://www.unz.com/?s=boy&Action=Search&ptype=all&commentsearch=only&commenter=Dissident&sortby=latest

    Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @Hangnail Hans, @Dissident, @Dissident, @Dissident

    Johnny, any opinion on these boards’ own out-and-proud pedophile [sic] commenter Dissident ?

    First, to reiterate and attempt to bring greater clarity, as concisely as possible, and essential facts and points that are at least mostly already made in many of my posted comments– including many of the very ones you linked-to.

    1.) It is primarily boys who are in early-to-mid adolescence (roughly ages 10-16, esp. 12-14*) that I am fascinated with.

    2.) The immense appeal I find in such creatures is both far more complex, as well as far more wholesome, than any mere carnal lust, or even mere aesthetic appeal.

    3.) Moreover, even the erotic aspect* itself is not only more complex than most people would assume, but also more refined, with distinct redeeming aspects to it. It is not only completely restrained but also completely precludes and is antithetical to any form of predation or degradation.

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    4.) Anyone with even a relatively minimal familiarty with my commenting history will more-than-likely be aware of my emphatic, ardent condemnation of and opposition to both “LGBTQ” ideology, activism and lifestyle, in general; as well as the specific act of buggery.[2]

    5.) Many readers will no doubt be aware, as well, that I have also made frequent mention of non-penetrative forms of male homosexual intercourse [3], presenting them as vastly safer and otherwise decidedly less problematic alternatives to buggery; as lesser evils.

    6.) I fear that some may have formed the dangerously erroneous, false misapprehension that I somehow do not object to, or may even condone sexual activity between adult and adolescent males as long as it is of a non-penetrative variety. My actual position on the matter is that the only time that such behaviors may possibly be considered defensible are in cases where a number of absolutely critical stipulations such as the following would be met:
    (a) the boy would be the one who had taken the initiative, expressing unambiguous, unequivocal interest and desire for intimacy with the man; (b) the boy would have persisted, defying earnest, sustained attempts at dissuasion by the man; (c) it became clear to the man that if he would not engage the boy in one or more forms of non-penetrative, safe, gentle, egalitarian intimacy, the boy would go off and get himself buggered/ sodomized by someone else of far lesser scruples.

    The basic hypothetical outlined above is elaborated upon in greater detail in this comment of mine from April, which also contains a more thorough treatment of much else of what I have adressed here.

    7.) Finally, a request, to anyone who may still, after reading through all that I have written above, remain unclear, uncomfortable, or concerned by any aspect of my interest in boys, or by any of of my comments here that relate to said interest (but who has excercised enough civility not to attack or malign me, and enough decency not to assume the worst about me):

    Kindly present any questions or concerns that you may have for me in a polite manner, as clearly as possible. If you do so, I will make a sincere effort to answer as clearly and honestly as I would find practical and suitable for the forum.

    Thank you.

    NOTES
    [1] The erotic aspect, in particular, is also overwhelmingly limited-to boys who are at a minimum peripubescent, thus the term pedophilia is mostly not applicable even to begin with. Now, some may argue that to insist on such accuracy of usage outside of an academic or clinical context, insistence that pedophilia be restricted to its proper meaning that is limited-to cases of attraction to prepubescent children. A larger problem with the word, however, would nonetheless remain: It has, in common usage, become little more than a lurid epithet, thrown about with reckless abandon. (As we have seen right here with JIE).

    [2] Buggery: the objectively insalubrious, inordinately disease-promoting, anatomically and physiologically unsound act that uses the ano-rectal as if it were the female copulatory one.

    [3] Primarily frot, the term coined by Man2Man Alliance founder Bill Weintraub for the unique phallus-to-phallus act that he argues is the truest form of male homoerotic intercourse.

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