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What’s interesting here is that large empty space to the right of Mitt Romney and to the left of, I’m guessing, Breitbart and Daily Caller. The left has a huge advantage in that that there is a steady continuum of jobs for journalists at most points on the left. On the right, the most interesting people tend to be quarantined away from the mainstream GOP journalists by this No Man’s Land forcing pundits and reporters to choose one path or the other (inside or outside the Overton Window), but not to mix and match as they see fit.

 
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  1. If you are neither left nor right, on the other hand, and don’t even land anywhere on the continuum connecting them, the entire political landscape looks like Flatland as viewed from a third-dimension vantage.

    Try explaining this to journalists and watch their heads explode.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Hail
    , @(((Owen)))
  2. So most journalists are centrists — that is, right in the center between Berie Sanders and AOC.

    • Agree: bomag
    • LOL: James Speaks
  3. Anonymous[305] • Disclaimer says:

    I am assuming that the bump on the right side of the graph combines alt-right and libertarian publications.

    A journalist brave enough to publicly subscribe to Reason’s Twitter feed may also subscribe to Zero Hedge. After all, there is no difference between the two in the minds of the average SJW.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  4. I guess you and most of your commenters would be about a yard to the right, but nobody likes those horizontal scroll bars on web sites anymore. We’d be at about 8 and that’d be on a LOG SCALE.

  5. Perhaps a word or two about mean, median and mode?

    • Replies: @anon
  6. Fern dojo says:

    Most journalists are left wing because they are intelligent and ethical

    They don’t like putting children in cages racism misogyny Christian terrorism white supremacy anti choice porn

  7. Ellper says:

    Does this survey exclude Murdoch employees?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  8. t says:

    Sort of OT:

    This is what it’s going too be be like if Bloomberg wins the nomination, if you point out that he’s a billionaire with a vast media empire it an:anti-semetic” trope.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Malcolm X-Lax
  9. anon[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fern dojo

    Truly intelligent people know all about their good friend, the “comma”. That’s not the same as your friend, the “coma”.

  10. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Fern dojo

    Go home, Tiny Duck. The iguanas are all thawed out and hungry and you are likely to get eaten.

  11. Anon[316] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mr McKenna

    If you are neither left nor right, on the other hand, and don’t even land anywhere on the continuum connecting them

    I’ve more and more come to feel that the belief that there is some sort of political belief system that doesn’t fall anywhere on the normal continuum, but rather can be a random mix and match Chinese restaurant menu thing, is a sort of Blank Slatism, similar to people who think that gender behavior and identity is entirely due to social conditioning.

    I used to wonder why Issue X was considered to be right wing or left wing. Why is nuclear energy right wing, for god’s sake? Why are anti GM food views left wing? A lot of things just seem inherently orthogonal to politics.

    But the more I read in the field of genetics, as well as the psychology of personality, the more I think there really is a mostly linear spectrum of beliefs (of course with many individual exceptions as you would expect in real life) to which nearly all people and all issues mostly conform.

    This is just another step on the way to believing in almost complete determinism, which I am getting close to, and which is a reason why I almost regret ever getting interested in genetics. Am I just a robot? Maybe so.

    • Replies: @Gabe Ruth
  12. indocon says:

    Guess if you support strong unions and low immigration, you are in that white space.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Anon
  13. @Fern dojo

    putting children in cages racism misogyny Christian terrorism white supremacy anti choice porn

    Now let’s be honest Tinys. That last word is just plain redundant, isn’t it.

  14. Ed says:

    There’s a journalist that used to work for the Free Beacon, Lachlan Marley or something. He used to tweet some right wing stuff nothing terribly controversial. He manually deleted thousands of tweets and then shortly thereafter ended up at the Daily Beast. Evidently now he is so liberal that he ended up being named as one of the highest profile liberal hacks. Oliver Darcy used to write for Breitbart, now that he’s at CNN he spends his time acting as asst. hall monitor for Brian Stetler and demonizing the right.

    I suspect in order to advance in journalism you have to have liberal views, you most certainly can’t support Trump. I don’t think there is a regular opinion columnist at either the NYT or WaPo that supports Trump. The two leading papers in the country and not one has a regular columnist that admits to supporting the president that got nearly half of the votes.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    , @MBlanc46
  15. Honestly, anons on twitter are doing “journalism” much better than the professionals at this point so, meh

    Even with Twitter shadowbanning and cooking the books on trending topics, our stuff does pretty well on there

    It would be nice for the boys to get paid jobs doing this but I can’t afford to fund that and I don’t know anybody who both can and would want to

    People talk a lot about grifters, but, like look here’s the deal. If you’re so smart, why don’t you run a grift too. Make a normiecon account and just shill and sell mindset pills or whatever. Pay your bills with this and continue shitposting on another account.

    • Replies: @Kratoklastes
    , @Jesse
  16. Anonymous[269] • Disclaimer says:

    Leaving this here for Steve

  17. The preening Willard Mitt is to the right of the Republican Senate median?

    What has he ever said that was more conservative than that bit about 47% of the people not paying taxes, but still being able to vote?

    Then there is that other bit about his son hiring a prostitute to carry his child. It’s astonishing that that is still legal in America. (Except New York and Michigan.)

    Mormons, those progenitors of women’s suffrage, are far from conservative. They just like to keep their money, that’s all.

    • Agree: James Speaks, Bubba
  18. bomag says:

    From the comments:

    So barbed wire manufacturers are a solid buy.

    Heh.

  19. Mr. Anon says:

    The phenomenon makes more sense if you use the more accurate term for “journalist” – propagandist.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
  20. Hail says: • Website

    Where would VDare fit on this continuum?

    I’m not sure (a) that I understand their methodology, and (b) that putting people on a single left-right continuum makes much sense; it kind of forces a reality rather than analyzes reality.

    • Replies: @Not my economy
  21. Hail says: • Website
    @Mr McKenna

    It’s curious that they don’t even attempt to place DJT , Donald J. Tweetman, on the graph at all.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @Morton's toes
  22. “The Right” in America is generally not interested in journalism.

    • Replies: @Clifford Brown
  23. @Hail

    There was a much talked about study which has been buried beyond finding for a long time now. Some political scientists analyzed every twitter post of all the candidates for president in 2016 and the one person who was closest to the middle of their left to right plot was Donald Trump. There was a Republican candidate who was to the left of him but I forgot who it was. Also they had Hillary as the most right of the 3 or 4 democratic candidates that were recognized.

    I sometimes wonder why that thing disappeared.

  24. JimDandy says:

    It has to do with the Plutocrats wanting food stamps for their wage slaves and identity politics wars to keep the plebes from uniting and all that. Duh.

  25. The people in that gap have better things to do.

    Most people aren’t ideological at all. In the news biz they were once known as reporters. Maybe they should try hiring a few again. Back when they used to do so they sucked a lot less.

    • Replies: @Hail
  26. Hail says: • Website
    @Desiderius

    Does CNN report news anymore? Or is it all news-“ish” politics gossip?

    “And now, for reaction, we go to our panel.”

  27. JMcG says:
    @indocon

    Come on in, the water’s fine.

  28. @Clifford Brown

    I don’t trust William Barr, but I am willing to be optimistic…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  29. syonredux says:
    @Anonymous

    It’s amazing that Philip Roth’s allegory about life in Trump’s America was actually written when Bush was president.

    Yeesh…..

  30. Anonymous[204] • Disclaimer says:

    Part of the problem is trying to condense voting proclivities into one axis. The way I think of Left vs Right (e.g. as categorized above) is in terms of what elite Jewry perceives as good or bad for themselves, respectively. On this axis, I suspect that President Trump would be maybe to the left of the small bump of Breitbart journalist in actions, and about matched up with Breitbart in terms of rhetoric, maybe further as campaign Trump.

    However, the standard left vs right (i.e. whatever the NYT dislikes atm is right-wing) continuum is a pretty unhelpful way of looking at things in other ways. For example, Trump is in a lot of ways something of an old-school Centrist Democrat but with a pro-life agenda. In that way, both Breitbart and Trump are not really that right-wing. Sure, they are pro-2A, pro-life, but they are also for the American worker and the American nation. And as for religion, neither are religious right although both are wary of Islam, certainly culturally Christian friendly.

    The voting average on that continuum must be midway between the avg Twitter user and the median R senator. So the distribution of journos really fails to represent the right half of the voter base, which we knew anyway. Except for Breitbart which has a near monopoly, and then there is Tucker. $100 bills lying on the ground that no one but Trump picks up.

    • Replies: @Hail
  31. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    $100 bills lying on the ground that no one but Trump picks up.

    And then he blows his nose on them.

    (See “Trump’s Chumps,” by Hunter Wallace, Feb. 2020) (also reposted to the Unz Review)

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  32. @Clifford Brown

    I don’t trust William Barr, but I am willing to be optimistic…

  33. Michael S says:

    Wait, Mitt Romney is to the right of the median senate Republican? God help us, I know they’re part of the swamp but I didn’t think it was that bad.

  34. @syonredux

    It’s easy to forget that W was demonized almost as much as Trump is demonized now. The left doesn’t object to the man as much as to any challenge to their power.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @anon
    , @Ozymandias
    , @dfordoom
  35. On the right, the most interesting people tend to be quarantined away from the mainstream GOP journalists by this No Man’s Land forcing pundits and reporters to choose one path or the other (inside or outside the Overton Window)

    I suppose the “establishment” would be happy as long as truly right wing voices were kept in some kind of ghetto. But there are too many byways into that Forbidden Zone. Even a dope-smoker like Joe Rogan is accused of providing access to these dangerous dissidents.

  36. Can we just dump the concept of ‘left vs. right’ once and for all? There are a lot of orthogonal axes:

    the economic spectrum (running from centrally planned economies to laissez-faire capitalism)*

    the favor ingroup/favor outgroup spectrum (nationalism/globalism)

    religiosity spectrum

    level of social control spectrum (runs from taxing sodas one one end to allowing legal heroin on the other)

    There are plenty of examples of different political movements mixing and matching different ends of each spectra. I want to bang my head on the keyboard every time I see an argument break out about (for example) whether the NSDAP was rightist or leftist. The NSDAP was the NSDAP. That’s it. Is Donald Trump to the left or right of Mitt Romney? Not a useful framework, please stop. Right and Left stopped being useful as a concept about the time the French Revolution was winding down. Yet here we are. We took from them the concept of right and left, but not the metric system. Head meet keyboard.

    *Even the economic spectrum is multiple different axes: for example one is degree of central planning, another is degree of central regulation, another other is tolerance/intolerance of monopolies or monopsonies, another is protectionist vs. free trading… we say ‘right-leaning’ economics are low central planning, low regulation, tolerance of monopolies, free trading, while left leaning is the opposite…but there’s no reason those categories have to hang together.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  37. anon[730] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    It’s easy to forget that W was demonized almost as much as Trump is demonized now.

    Ditto GHW “Poppy” Bush. Ditto Reagan. Ditto Nixon. Ditto Goldwater, who was accused of some nebulous connection to Nazis. Goldwater. Ditto, ditto, ditto. Maybe the leftards didn’t have the guts to call Eisenhower a Nazi. Maybe. But that was 60+ years ago.

    60+ years of blatant lies. With no shame.

    The left doesn’t object to the man as much as to any challenge to their power.

    The left is about power. First, last, always. Power over ordinary people. The left has been that way since Robespierre…he would fit in just fine with the modern D’s. By the way.

    • Agree: Alden
  38. @Anonymous

    Back when that book was first published, I read that a leading Jewish writer had put out a book called “The Plot Against America,” and I sighed with relief and thought, “FINALLY! One of them at last has got the decency to admit it!”

    Then I found out it was all this dreary made-up noise about Lindbergh and I thought, Who am I kidding? They’re never, ever, ever, ever going to stop…

    • Replies: @Alden
  39. @Ellper

    In Murdoch’s home of Australia, his most conservative outlet has been described as “to the left of MSNBC”.

  40. @Hail

    We need to prevent anyone with a “Mr. Smith Goes To Washington is the way it should be” mentality from commenting on politics. That would take care of having to listen to blackpillers.

  41. @Not My Economy

    People talk a lot about grifters, but, like look here’s the deal. If you’re so smart, why don’t you run a grift too. Make a normiecon account and just shill and sell mindset pills or whatever. Pay your bills with this and continue shitposting on another account.

    What makes you think your idea is remotely original? Wait until Amy Chingchong* reveals that she’s actually David Cole.

    (Is there someone at the NYT or some such who is Amy ‘Something-Asian’? Her.)

  42. @Anonymous

    Well, one difference is Zero Hedge was kicked off Twitter.

  43. In previous work, this John Holbein “proved” that journalists aren’t biased against conservatives:

    • Replies: @res
  44. What seems to be missing from that graph is a line that demarcates the Left from the Right. I suspect it lies somewhere to the right of that ‘far right’ peak, which is actually what used to be called the centre.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  45. @Fern dojo

    Most journalists are left wing because they are intelligent and ethical

  46. IHTG says:
    @Ed

    Darcy is much worse than Lachlan.

  47. Jesse says:
    @Not My Economy

    On a national level, the American media runs the gamut from mediocre to appalling. On a local/city level, they’re anywhere from very good to superlative. The latter deserves protecting, but the former are destroying the goodwill needed to do so.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    , @Jack D
    , @anon
  48. duncsbaby says:
    @syonredux

    Zoe Kazan is very beautiful. That is all.

  49. @International Jew

    “It’s easy to forget that W was demonized almost as much as Trump is demonized now.”

    Yes, I’d forgotten all about the phony impeachment of W.

  50. JMcG says:
    @Jesse

    I certainly don’t see that in my local media. Lefties to a man or woman. Open borders, anti-Trump, anti Gun rights, anti-clerical, pro-gay, pro-trannie. What part of the country are you in that you see the local media as excellent?

  51. @Hail

    it kind of forces a reality rather than analyzes reality.

    I.e. Power

    • Agree: Hail
  52. anon[368] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ozymandias

    Thanks for that. I was trying to figure out what modal meant in the above context. Forgot mode was the forgotten one of the three averaging systems you listed.

  53. Jack D says:
    @t

    Bloomberg’s “vast media empire” ain’t chopped liver but it isn’t really that vast by the standards of say CNN or the NY Times. Bloomberg.com has a page rank of #144 among news and media sites. If all Bloomberg needed was to turn his own sites in his favor, he wouldn’t have to be spending lavishly on putting campaign ads on all of his competitor’s networks.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  54. Jack D says:
    @Jesse

    First of all, there’s no sharp break – when the reporter gets promoted from the local desk to the national desk, his politics doesn’t change. He’s already a Leftist. It’s just that potholes are less clearly a Left/Right issue.

    2nd, local coverage is the coverage that is most endangered by the collapse of the newspaper business so it’s only going to get worse.

  55. countenance says: • Website

    The “missing right” is largely on talk radio.

  56. Jack D says:
    @syonredux

    I realize that The Plot Against America is not exactly a fan favorite around here, but it will be interesting to see if HBO succeeds in bringing the book to the screen. So far, Roth’s work has resisted all attempts to film it despite several big budget attempts. Likewise Tom Wolfe. Some novels and novelists lend themselves to filming and others seem to be unfilmable. And there’s no easy way to say which is which in advance and avoid wasting millions of $ on a flop, or Hollywood would have figured it out by now.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  57. Anon[771] • Disclaimer says:
    @indocon

    The white space was once called the center….50 years ago this ideology around level 2 was where most Americans aligned….President Jimmy Carter and President Ford , along with Nixon, Kennedy, and Eisenhower would be categorized in this space. The center could not hold.

  58. Bernie says:
    @Fern dojo

    Name one leftist journalist who doesnt like anti white racism.

  59. Bernie says:

    I imagine this “right of Mitt Romney” space used to be covered by National Review. But that publication has gone off the rails over the last 5 years or so. “The Conservative Case for (insert latest hard-left cause)” is what they are now (rightly) known for.

  60. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Anon

    Imagine looking at this asinine chart and thinking “Hmmmmmm, maybe the left right spectrum as conceived by media people captures something about reality after all?” (It doesn’t.)

  61. @Jack D

    Bloomberg’s “vast media empire” ain’t chopped liver but it isn’t really that vast by the standards of say CNN or the NY Times. Bloomberg.com has a page rank of #144 among news and media sites.

    Bloomberg LP has over 2x the headcount of CNN and the Times combined. It’s also vast in the sense that its coverage is wide and deep. More and more, it is replacing traditional news wire agencies like Reuters, AFP and AP as a source for newspaper articles. It’s not clear that Bloomberg’s non-terminal sidelines are a profitable side of the business. But based on headcount alone, Bloomberg appears to be committed to it.

  62. anon[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jesse

    On a local/city level, they’re anywhere from very good to superlative.

    Got any examples to show?

    My local newspaper is owned by Gannett, so it’s just USA-Today with some local events and high school sports added. The editorial page is retarded rewrites of DNC talking points, a lot like USA-Today with some CNN added in. They’re anywhere from “mediocre” “incompetent” to “outright propaganda”.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    , @Mr. Anon
  63. @Mr McKenna

    Re: Flatland.

    Very insightful. The number of dimensions in this graph is an input to the algorithm. And it’s not an outside data input like the actual Twitter data; it’s entirely up to the authors at their own pleasure. The authors just happened to choose one dimension, but it could be two or seventeen just as easily.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @anon
  64. Hemid says:

    Everyone right of Romney is banned (the gap), a fed (every right-wing character any journalist knows about), a Trump, or Steve.

  65. ATBOTL says:
    @Jack D

    Had the isolationists, nativists and protectionists been running America to the present, we would be living in a paradise on earth.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  66. anon[298] • Disclaimer says:
    @(((Owen)))

    The Pournelle chart was first published in 1963. He was probably thinking about it in the 1950’s.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pournelle_chart

    It’s too bad that people don’t know about it, so they are continuously attempting to invent it.

  67. @t

    That twitter thread introduced me to this lovely person and many of the lovely special people in his orbit. Again, it’s noteworthy how so many of the aggressively ethnocentric jews here are female.

  68. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:

    I am definitely in the “No Man’s Land”. I didn’t vote for Mitt Romney in 2012 because he wasn’t fiscally conservative enough for me.

    On the other hand, I am to the left of anyone who calls himself alt-right, white nationalist, or white supremacist.

    • Replies: @Hail
    , @Alden
  69. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous

    I’m not sure all that fits on one single spectrum.

    They should have at least made a four-quadrants, “political compass test” version.

    (On the other hand, while I like the idea, there’s something profoundly wrong-feeling about seeing them plot people on the big board; from the Political Compass website:)

    • Replies: @SFG
  70. SFG says:
    @Hail

    They’re trying to chase you away from the red quadrant, where decidedly non-genocidal figures like Chesterton hung out.

    Lots of people are economically liberal and socially conservative, which is why the liberals don’t want people realizing that–their social program is much less popular than their economic.

    • Replies: @Hail
  71. SFG says:

    The average journalist is to the left of Bernie Sanders, and they wonder why people don’t trust the media.

    Seriously, speaking as someone who likes to read all viewpoints, there’s a lack of good center-right news sources. I guess you have to shell out for the WSJ or FT?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  72. Hail says: • Website
    @SFG

    It looks like that chart is posted at PoliticalCompass.org as a user-made “crowd chart.”

    Crowd Chart

    This page is presented by the makers of The Political Compass as a tool for others to use. We take no responsibility for any specific scores presented on this page.

    This one, though, is official from the test-makers. Their analysis of the 2020 presidential field:

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  73. res says:
    @International Jew

    I think that is actually the paper under discussion. The graphic appears in it on page 8 if you follow through to the Dropbox link.

    It’s pretty funny they use a graphic showing that distribution of journalist political beliefs as evidence against liberal bias in the media.

  74. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon

    The phenomenon makes more sense if you use the more accurate term for “journalist” – propagandist.

    Which is what journalists and reporters always have been. There has never been such an animal as an unbiased objective reporter. And there has never been such a thing as a newspaper or other news outlet that has been anything but a means for disseminating a political ideology.

    In some ways the current situation is healthier than the situation half a century ago – at least these days news outlets and reporters don’t pretend to be unbiased.

    A “free press” means every proprietor is free to use his newspaper/TV station/other news outlet to push his own political views. A “free press” does not mean an objective unbiased press.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
    • Replies: @Art Deco
  75. dfordoom says: • Website
    @International Jew

    It’s easy to forget that W was demonized almost as much as Trump is demonized now.

    So was Reagan. So was Thatcher in Britain.

    Mind you, W, Reagan and Thatcher were pretty awful.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  76. MBlanc46 says:
    @Ed

    And the majority of the EC votes.

  77. @anon

    I worked for a Gannett paper that was every bit as bad as you describe, plus it was stridently pro-illegal immigrant

  78. Anonymous[157] • Disclaimer says:
    @SimpleSong

    The NSDAP was-and this is crucial to underststand-centrist. It combined Nationalism, nominally right, with Socialism, nominally left.

    It explains this in its famous advertising jingle, for any who care to listen or read. A decent English translation is easy to find.

    Hitler came up the center because the right and the left were either completely dysfunctional or obvious monsters, or both. And to be fair he did a lot of good for the average German-until war broke out.

  79. Mr. Anon says:
    @anon

    You are correct. There are virtually no “local newspapers” anymore. The ones that aren’t owned by Gannett are owned by Advance Publications (you can guess who owns them, and you’d be right). They are all little versions of the New York Times – predictably liberal, anti-white, etc.

    There is no local print or broadcast media.

  80. Art Deco says:
    @dfordoom

    There has never been such an animal as an unbiased objective reporter.

    No, but there has been such an animal as a reporter, someone who sought to tell stories about events and could enjoy covering any kind of event. See, the Kilgallans, father and daughter. Such people have largely disappeared.

  81. Art Deco says:
    @dfordoom

    Mind you, W, Reagan and Thatcher were pretty awful.

    Just out of the most idle curiosity, what counts as non-awful?

    • Agree: Desiderius
  82. @Hail

    Wow — they have no idea what they’re doing.

    • LOL: Hail
    • Replies: @Hail
  83. Alden says:
    @The Germ Theory of Disease

    The Plot Against America is a plagiarism of a 1930s book
    It Can’t Happen Here by Socialist Sinclair Lewis.

    Same plot, eeeevvvviiiiilllll Nazis taking over America. Sinclair’s book is a better read.

  84. Alden says:
    @Anonymous

    If you don’t mind my asking, what’s your opinion on

    1 affirmative action

    2 the demonization of Whites by academia the media and government

    3black on White crime.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  85. Hail says: • Website
    @ben tillman

    If a martian based his views of US politics entirely on the Political Compass official chart,

    Kasich = Trump

    and

    Pence, Pence, and Hogan (presumably Maryland governor Larry Hogan) are about the same as the Trump and Kasich political-twins, just slightly more “to the Right.”

    The martian is in for some deep confusion.

  86. @SFG

    Twitter runs rings around print.

    Get with the 21st Century man.

  87. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    Affirmative action is evil and is a plot by ultra-rich whites to keep down the sorta-rich and upper middle class whites. Ultra-rich whites will always have legacy admissions to fall back on. Prole whites don’t apply to university in large numbers. Very rich whites are scared of sorta rich and UMC whites because we pose a threat to their dominance at the country club or the elite business/law schools.

    I don’t care what the media says. I support freedom of speech by private individuals and corporations. Even if somebody dislikes me, they still have the right to say it. As for the government, if they were to ban affirmative action in schools, workplaces, and federal contracting, then they would no longer be anti-white.

    I don’t care about any type of crime because there are almost no blacks, hispanics, or prole whites in my area. If you are overly concerned with crime, don’t live in the ghetto.

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