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From the New York Times:

The Left’s Vaccine Problem

By David Leonhardt
Feb. 5, 2021, 6:21 a.m. ET

… Progressive leaders in much of the world are now struggling to distribute coronavirus vaccines quickly and efficiently:

Europe’s vaccination rollout “has descended into chaos,” as Sylvie Kauffmann of Le Monde, the French newspaper, has written. One of the worst performers is the Netherlands, which has given a shot to less than 2 percent of residents.

Canada (at less than 3 percent) is far behind the U.S. (about 8.4 percent).

Within the U.S., many Democratic states — like California, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York and tiny Rhode Island — are below the national average. “The parts of the country that pride themselves on taking Covid seriously and believing in government are not covering themselves in glory,” The Times’s Ezra Klein has written.

Alaska and West Virginia have the two highest vaccination rates among U.S. states, with Oklahoma and the Dakotas also above average. Globally, Israel and the United Arab Emirates have the highest rates. Britain — run by Boris Johnson, a populist Conservative — has vaccinated more than 15 percent of residents.

Is Boris really a “populist?”

… Why? A common problem seems to be a focus on process rather than on getting shots into arms. Some progressive leaders are effectively sacrificing efficiency for what they consider to be equity. …

Some blue states have also created intricate rules about who qualifies for a vaccine and then made a big effort to keep anybody else from getting a shot. These complicated rules have slowed vaccination in both California and New York. …

“Across New York State,” my colleague Dana Rubinstein has written, medical providers have had “to throw out precious vaccine doses because of difficulties finding patients who matched precisely with the state’s strict vaccination guidelines — and the steep penalties they would face had they made a mistake.”

By the way, Scott Alexander of SlateStarCodex is back with a Substack subscription blog at https://astralcodexten.substack.com/ .

Scott says the best blogger on Covid is some guy named Zvi Mowshowitz, who, not surprisingly, turns out to be pretty good.

Zvi cites an MIT Technology Review article about how terrible is the CDC’s software for making vaccination reservations that they paid Deloitte $44 million for:

“It won’t work on Internet Explorer; it only works in Chrome. The ‘Next’ button is all the way down and to the right, so if you’re on a cell phone, you literally can’t see it,” says Rowe. “In the first round, people using VAMS mostly had advanced degrees. If you’re 75 and someone asks you to log into VAMS, there is zero way it’ll happen without help.” …

Elderly people aren’t the only ones who will struggle if vaccination requires online sign-up. Language barriers will become a significant problem, especially for non-native English speakers doing high-risk essential work. People in rural or poor urban areas often have limited access to the internet in the first place, a problem disproportionately affecting the same Black and Latino communities that have suffered the worst traumas of the pandemic.

“There are some real equity concerns,” says Stone. “What happens when you go to a city and 20% of the population can’t get the notices?”

Zvi observes:

As usual, when something fails a lot of people, that is cited as an ‘equity’ concern rather than a ‘failing lots of people’ concern.

Not Being Racist is America’s highest priority in 2021, far beyond Getting The Job Done.

 
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  1. Europe’s vaccination rollout “has descended into chaos”

    A glimpse of the Future for all of us. Enjoy!

    A common problem seems to be a focus on process rather than on getting shots into arms. Some progressive leaders are effectively sacrificing efficiency for what they consider to be equity.

    Process and Equity are Everything. Results are for wypipos, so shut up.

    • Replies: @Kaz
    @Polistra

    Can't blame Mexicans or Blacks for Europe's vaccinations woes tho

    Replies: @tyrone

    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Polistra

    Results without process and equity result in injustice and inefficiency. You can walk and chew gum at the same time you know.

    Replies: @Jack D

  2. It never fails. When governments seek “equity,” they can achieve it. But it’s only by lowering standards for everyone, not raising them.

    Like Margaret Thatcher said once, “(Socialists) would rather the poor were poorer, provided the rich were less rich.” In 2021, a smart politician should go around saying, “Progressives would rather more minorities die of COVID, provided less whites get vaccinated.”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    “Progressives would rather more minorities die of COVID, provided less whites get vaccinated.”
     
    Well, they did go to schools that no longer teach the difference between less and fewer. What do you expect?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Skeptikal

    , @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    But the poor have gotten poorer, and more numerous, thanks to Thatcherism.

    , @Arclight
    @NJ Transit Commuter

    This is what happens with a country loses its self-confidence. Once a country (or company, team, whatever) shifts from a forward-looking mindset to a retrospective one, stagnation is sure to follow.

    We - with a few exceptions - are no longer looking ahead and thinking about how to maximize the use of our resources and human capital for things that will make all of society better off, but looking backwards at our pseudo-historical sins and deciding which ordinary people need to be handicapped to atone for the guilt our elites feel, and who gets a leg up for the same reason although without having to earn it in any way.

    If the right had any brains at all, it would incessantly remind people that the left's plans explicitly mean leaving a lot of the country behind in its priorities, and has no interest in helping secure a better future for them or their children.

  3. Globally, Israel and the United Arab Emirates have the highest rates. Britain — run by Boris Johnson, a populist Conservative — has vaccinated more than 15 percent of residents.

    These three nations have seen outbreaks of COVID, roughly coinciding with the beginning of large-scale vaccinations. Exactly why this is happening is still unknown, but this seeming incompetence may be a sign that these vaccinations are dangerous or ineffective, and authorities elsewhere are waiting for this to play out, with patients in Israel/UAE/UK basically being guinea pigs.

    • Disagree: ic1000, ic1000
    • Replies: @BlackishRedpill
    @Nodwink

    No, the truth is that the growing number of morons in all these countries think the existence of the vaccine means they can return to normal with no risk.

    Replies: @Nodwink

    , @HA
    @Nodwink

    "Exactly why this is happening is still unknown, but this seeming incompetence may be a sign that these vaccinations are dangerous or ineffective,... authorities elsewhere are waiting for this to play out, with patients in Israel/UAE/UK basically being guinea pigs."


    Yeah, I hear you -- what a bunch of naïve guinea pigs those Israelis are! Always willing to sacrifice their own self-interest so as to serve as the sacrificial lamb for the benefit of the rest of the world. How these people managed to survive as long as they have is simply beyond me.

    From the FT:


    Hospital admissions of those aged 60 and above [in Israel] have already dropped 34 per cent below mid-January levels, while admissions among younger adults had remained flat and are now slightly higher than they were three weeks ago.

    Similar patterns are apparent in both moderate and severe hospital cases, suggesting that the vaccine is protecting against not only mild illness but also severe disease.

    Vaccine makers including BioNTech/Pfizer have created their products primarily to prevent disease in people infected with coronavirus. But preliminary evidence suggests the vaccines also reduce transmission of the virus. [though a definite answer for that will take months]

    When cases first began to fall in Israel in the second half of January, it was initially unclear whether the cause was the vaccine or the national lockdown, but as more data has come through, more and more evidence points to the role of inoculations….

    Israel’s national-level figures were published on the same day as new data from Maccabi Healthcare Services, one of the largest healthcare providers in the country, which showed that a week after receiving the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine, only 254 people out of 416,900 had been infected with Covid-19.

    Maccabi reported that all 254 infected patients suffered only mild symptoms, and only four of them were hospitalised in moderate condition. This compared to an unvaccinated control group where 12,944 out of 778,000 tested positive for coronavirus. [i.e. 0.061% vs. 1.6%, so more than a 25-fold differential]…

    “Additionally, our data has proven that those patients who do contract the Covid-19 virus post vaccination have a milder course of disease.” [as is the case with the flu vaccine]
     

    And yet, Alex Berenson is really unhappy about this for some strange reason./a> And from this blog that Scott Alexander says is the best thing going when it comes to COVID:

    The vaccine data is in. It’s pretty great...We now have six known safe and effective Covid-19 vaccines: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Novavax, Johnson & Johnson and Sputnik.

    Pfizer and Moderna are amazingly safe and effective. They have been approved and are being distributed. The problem is that due to our unwillingness to properly fund the process of scaling up, we are stalling out at about 1.3 million doses per day...s
     

  4. @NJ Transit Commuter
    It never fails. When governments seek “equity,” they can achieve it. But it’s only by lowering standards for everyone, not raising them.

    Like Margaret Thatcher said once, “(Socialists) would rather the poor were poorer, provided the rich were less rich.” In 2021, a smart politician should go around saying, “Progressives would rather more minorities die of COVID, provided less whites get vaccinated.”

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Arclight

    “Progressives would rather more minorities die of COVID, provided less whites get vaccinated.”

    Well, they did go to schools that no longer teach the difference between less and fewer. What do you expect?

    • Agree: Clyde
    • Disagree: Jack Armstrong
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    Im not certain how objectionable that is given our current social security payout system and overpopulation in the cities.

    I imagine they think they will simply import more non whites, a kind of net win structurally.

    , @Skeptikal
    @Reg Cæsar

    Make that

    ". . . provided that fewer whites get vaccinated."

  5. @Polistra

    Europe’s vaccination rollout “has descended into chaos”
     
    A glimpse of the Future for all of us. Enjoy!

    A common problem seems to be a focus on process rather than on getting shots into arms. Some progressive leaders are effectively sacrificing efficiency for what they consider to be equity.
     
    Process and Equity are Everything. Results are for wypipos, so shut up.

    Replies: @Kaz, @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Can’t blame Mexicans or Blacks for Europe’s vaccinations woes tho

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Kaz

    "Can’t blame Mexicans or Blacks for Europe’s vaccinations woes tho"……….no one is…..we blame stupid-ass, leftard assholes…..I hope that clears things up.

  6. Is Boris a populist?

    Well sort of. Getting out of Europe is populist. Appointing a relatively conservative non-white immigration minister is populist lite. Stimulus measures are kinda populist when they are coming from the centre right. Lockdowns aren’t really populist or elitist, since its more of a young versus old issue.

    Boris is pretty lucky in that he isn’t up for election for another three years or so. Hence, unlike Trump, his fate isn’t going to be sealed by his reaction or non-reaction to the Wuhan virus.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Alt Right Moderate

    But, as far as I'm aware, he's opening the doors to millions of Hong Kong Chinese.

    Replies: @Gordo

    , @Sue D. Nim
    @Alt Right Moderate

    Boris caught the china virus severely and nearly died.

    It left him shell-shocked and ultra-cautious about ending lockdowns.

    He believes every ridiculous projection peddled by the modellers.

  7. I hope those doctors are just saying they’ve thrown out the vaccines, and are secretly offering off-the-books vaccinations to those as wants them

    • Replies: @Thoughts
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    They are throwing them out, pretty sure.

    There's evidently a fine if you get caught giving the vaccine to the wrong people.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    , @SF
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    They are offering them. Don't have time right now to look it up but there was a story in main stream media about a middle aged white couple who went to a public vaccination event and stayed until end of day, when the pharmacist announced they had eight left over for stand by people. The story was ambivalent as to whether this was morally correct.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  8. It’s almost like the more government controls something, the more stupid and inefficient it is.

    • Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Hypnotoad666

    Not in China it ain't.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @TTSSYF

    , @Anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666


    It’s almost like the more government controls something, the more stupid and inefficient it is.
     
    The UK NHS is a state health service and are doing a very good job of distributing the vaccines. Perhaps it is because their philosophy is universality rather than equity.
  9. During hurricane Katrina, every agency except the U. S. The Coast Guard went into gridlock. This was attributed to a philosophy of: take action now, worry about the permissions and guidelines later.

    (O/T: Unfortunately, sometimes USCG rescuers were punched in the face by their victims.)

  10. It’s a gene jab, not a vaccine. You’ll diaper up and assburger-distance for the rest of your life. No, you won’t dance with your wife sans facediaper come Valentine’s Day 2021 – or 2025 or 2052 – regardless of Sailer’s embarrassing and sentimental chemotherapy-fueled post viz this subject some weeks ago. The Democratic sociopaths cum vigorously in their panties every time you diaper up.

    Twice today I entered stores sans diaper, both times I left with goods in hand sans harassment from store employees. This is a hoax and a medical coding fraud – you know that, right?

    • Agree: Yancey Ward
    • Replies: @notsaying
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the mask wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.

    Covid-19 is not a hoax.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Mike Tre

    , @Elmer T. Jones
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    More like face panties. And women seem to like them, perhaps because it gives them a sense of allure their naked mugs don't.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    , @Sapient Idiot
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    If cloth condoms were used HIV would have been eliminated. Cloth masks are just that good.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    , @TTSSYF
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    I don't doubt that the virus is real. It's the reaction to it that's been utterly insane and little more than a opportunistic power grab by sociopathic 'rats who have no allegiance to the U.S.

    Replies: @James Forrestal

    , @Midwit
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Anyone who believes Covid is a hoax at this point has let their seething hatred of the left consume and rot their brains. In other words brain damage.

    And so I say, begone, midwit.

    , @dvorak
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    I entered stores sans diaper
     
    80% of people, including you, look better with a mask on. For the same reason they look better clothed.

    If you wear a mask, I can imagine that you have a strong chin and an attractive nose.

  11. Thanks Steve for all the good posts tonight! I am out now to listen to Coast to Coast – George Noory. His guest will talk about the amygdala.
    _________

    amygdala
    [əˈmiɡdələ]
    NOUN
    anatomy
    a roughly almond-shaped mass of gray matter inside each cerebral hemisphere, involved with the experiencing of emotions.

  12. But, but, but…. # ifuckinglovescience!

  13. This is only a problem if you stupidly believe the vaccine means anything.

    • Agree: Pierre de Craon
  14. Oh no, comrades. Their Five Year Plan to get everyone vaccinated equitably and end the lockdowns by late 2024 is running precisely on schedule.

    • LOL: Chrisnonymous
  15. Oh no, comrades. Their Five Year Plan to get everyone equally (and equitably) vaccinated and end the lockdowns by late 2024 is running precisely on schedule.

    Any governor of any Soviet which fails to achieve the Five Year Vaccination Plan will be airbrushed out of the history books and completely unpersoned.

  16. It’s almost like the more government controls something, the more stupid and inefficient it is.

    Many years of hard experience have taught me that they consider this to be a feature, not a bug.

  17. The results suck, but the process is sound, that’s what matters.

  18. “There is zero way…”

    Oh, dear.

  19. In no way is Boris Johnson a populist. But as with white supremacists, once the media has declared them to be a huge problem, they have to offer examples.

    The left need enemies to justify their frantic tone and 24/7 culture-war footing.

  20. @Polistra

    Europe’s vaccination rollout “has descended into chaos”
     
    A glimpse of the Future for all of us. Enjoy!

    A common problem seems to be a focus on process rather than on getting shots into arms. Some progressive leaders are effectively sacrificing efficiency for what they consider to be equity.
     
    Process and Equity are Everything. Results are for wypipos, so shut up.

    Replies: @Kaz, @Mulga Mumblebrain

    Results without process and equity result in injustice and inefficiency. You can walk and chew gum at the same time you know.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    No you can't.

    Say you have 100 doses of vaccine. "Results" says that you should give them to the first 100 people you can find, regardless of race. "Equity" says that you give 50 of them to whites and 50 to People of Color. But maybe you can't find 50 People of Color willing to take the vaccine that day because Tuskegee Experiment, etc. You can only find 30 and you have to throw the other 20 doses in the trash in order to achieve "Equity".

    This is not "justice" - it is "racial justice". Real justice needs no adjectives. Remember that justice wears a blindfold. "Racial justice" peeks.

    And obviously this is not efficient. The whole point of equity is that you need to sacrifice efficiency to achieve it. The market achieve efficiency on its own. "Equity" means that the government must put its thumb on the scale because it doesn't like the results produced by the people without the wise "guidance" of the elites.

    Of course it is the dream of all Leftists everywhere and at all times that you can have it all - "Bread AND Roses". You can't and every time you try it usually ends it tears - not only don't you get bread and roses, you end up with less of both. The pie is not static - if you try to carve it up "more fairly" it shrinks before your very eyes so EVERYONE gets a smaller slice.

  21. @NJ Transit Commuter
    It never fails. When governments seek “equity,” they can achieve it. But it’s only by lowering standards for everyone, not raising them.

    Like Margaret Thatcher said once, “(Socialists) would rather the poor were poorer, provided the rich were less rich.” In 2021, a smart politician should go around saying, “Progressives would rather more minorities die of COVID, provided less whites get vaccinated.”

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Arclight

    But the poor have gotten poorer, and more numerous, thanks to Thatcherism.

  22. @Hypnotoad666
    It's almost like the more government controls something, the more stupid and inefficient it is.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Anonymous

    Not in China it ain’t.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Mulga Mumblebrain


    Not in China it ain’t.
     
    You must have just finished reading the NYTs latest fluff peace about how smart and wonderful our future overlords are. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/world/asia/china-covid-economy.html

    The Chinese government is stupid and inefficient also. But their citizens aren't allowed to point it out. And the NYT is basically their paid PR agent in this country.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @TTSSYF
    @Mulga Mumblebrain

    You mean like how, in China, a novel coronavirus was allowed either to develop (from the Chinese eating exotic animals and/or keeping different species together in close quarters, allowing viruses to jump across species) or to escape (from the Fauci-funded Wuhan lab during gain-of-function experiments) and spread across the globe, sickening or killing millions? That kind of "control"?

    It's abundantly clear that you're a mumblebrain, and I suppose it follows that only a mumblebrain would refer to himself as such. But as is said about fools, better to remain silent and let those around you wonder whether you're a mumblebrain or not than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

  23. Not Being Racist is America’s highest priority in 2021, far beyond Getting The Job Done.

    That’s not true. You can be totally racist. What you must be is anti-White.

    We have to keep repeating there’s an obvious anti-White agenda even to HBDers.

    • Replies: @Glaivester
    @RichardTaylor

    Yes. Our overlords are anti-White. Once you understand that they want to get rid of us, things make much more sense.

    But don't use the term racist. That's their word, not ours.

  24. You have to look at it this way: on the upside for Democrats, the longer this shit goes on, the more time they can spend “not letting a good crisis go to waste.”

    Also, they may think that the more psychological and economic damage the lockdowns inflict on society the more government programs we will demand to ameliorate the problems that are caused.

    Of course the downside to all that is that people are really getting tired of this shit. The midterms could be brutal for them.

    • Replies: @Thoughts
    @Wilkey

    Midterms will be great for the Dems. Did you see what happened in Georgia?

    Dems are never losing another election again

    Ballot harvesting with mail-ins for the win

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Wilkey


    Of course the downside to all that is that people are really getting tired of this shit.
     
    Are you sure?

    The UMC AWFL/SWPL Karen-crowd seem to absolutely love, love, love lockdown because they can just have everything delivered via Instacart, Amazon Prime, and Netflix.
  25. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    It's a gene jab, not a vaccine. You'll diaper up and assburger-distance for the rest of your life. No, you won't dance with your wife sans facediaper come Valentine's Day 2021 - or 2025 or 2052 - regardless of Sailer's embarrassing and sentimental chemotherapy-fueled post viz this subject some weeks ago. The Democratic sociopaths cum vigorously in their panties every time you diaper up.

    Twice today I entered stores sans diaper, both times I left with goods in hand sans harassment from store employees. This is a hoax and a medical coding fraud - you know that, right?

    Replies: @notsaying, @Elmer T. Jones, @Sapient Idiot, @TTSSYF, @Midwit, @dvorak

    The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the mask wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.

    Covid-19 is not a hoax.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @notsaying

    It's not fear of getting shot, it's knowing the masks are pointless and not wanting to be a stasi.

    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @notsaying

    "The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the [diaper] wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees."

    Good. This needs to happen A LOT.

    Even better: smash every diaperface upside the head, knock them out, and tattoo a diaper on their face they can never remove.

    Imbeciles need to fear wearing diapers in public.

    Replies: @Space Ghost, @Corvinus, @Freedom Awaits

    , @Mike Tre
    @notsaying

    Lol what a total crock of shit. Please, establish a basis for all the “DENIERS!!!!1!” who are shooting up retail stores due to masks enforcement.

    In my experience, the lockdowns have revealed the groups of people most enthusiastic about revealing their inner petty tyrant: young mestizo females are by far the worst, but females in general have been all about using the power to deny service to enforce these rules. None of these people have any fear; they have the full power of the state on their side.

    The risk of this weak virus has been overstated to a preposterous degree in order to subject the entire country to instant tyranny. It’s as simple as that.

  26. Good for me, bad for the high-risk groups who need the vaccine.

    The software sucking from Deloitte is no surprise…I once picked up an Indian H1B friend at a Deloitte headquarters and every single person minus the security guard was H1B Indian.

    It’s all words. It’s all b.s. words.

    Wokeness is incompetent people spewing words to cover up their incompetence.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @Herp McDerp
    @Thoughts

    Wokeness is incompetent people spewing words to cover up their incompetence.

    That's pretty much the definition of Critical Theory: There is no objective reality, the world is defined by narratives and power relations. You can even survive using that principle as long as you are the one who is controlling other people through the exercise of power ... and as long as objective reality doesn't get in the way.

    But an edict won't hold up a bridge built by incompetents.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  27. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    I hope those doctors are just saying they've thrown out the vaccines, and are secretly offering off-the-books vaccinations to those as wants them

    Replies: @Thoughts, @SF

    They are throwing them out, pretty sure.

    There’s evidently a fine if you get caught giving the vaccine to the wrong people.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Thoughts


    They are throwing them out [in New York state], pretty sure.

    There’s evidently a fine if you get caught giving the vaccine to the wrong people.
     
    A Doctor Evil one, one million dollars, plus loss of licenses. And not an idle threat as Montefiore New Rochelle Hospital found out early this year for the benefit of everyone else in the state. Cuomo then added a fine of $100,000 if hospitals didn't speed up vaccinations, as well as getting cut off from further supplies.

    Other notes about this thug's vaccination policies: he threw away the plans that had been developed over months at the last moment to using hospitals, plus some new types of clinics the state was going to develop from scratch to administer vaccines to the usual disadvantages suspects. But this is tied to a web reservation system that if you don't have any accounts already set up can take as many as 51 distinct steps, including uploading a copy of an ID. Needless to say lots of elderly are only getting through this gauntlet with the help of younger more computer literate family and friends.

    Although after getting a lot of bad press for the first time ever in the pandemic, he is easing some of these crazy policies.

    Replies: @El Dato

  28. @Wilkey
    You have to look at it this way: on the upside for Democrats, the longer this shit goes on, the more time they can spend “not letting a good crisis go to waste.”

    Also, they may think that the more psychological and economic damage the lockdowns inflict on society the more government programs we will demand to ameliorate the problems that are caused.

    Of course the downside to all that is that people are really getting tired of this shit. The midterms could be brutal for them.

    Replies: @Thoughts, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Midterms will be great for the Dems. Did you see what happened in Georgia?

    Dems are never losing another election again

    Ballot harvesting with mail-ins for the win

  29. Cuba, little Cuba, little communist Cuba, has a good, effective vaccine ready.

    The US and the EU are clowns.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @obwandiyag

    obi, Yes Cuba is the Medical Science capital of the world...THE WORLD. That's why socialist leaders from around the world head to The Cleveland Clinic and the MAYO clinic in Minnesota or Sloan-Kettering in NYC.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Another Canadian

  30. @Alt Right Moderate
    Is Boris a populist?

    Well sort of. Getting out of Europe is populist. Appointing a relatively conservative non-white immigration minister is populist lite. Stimulus measures are kinda populist when they are coming from the centre right. Lockdowns aren't really populist or elitist, since its more of a young versus old issue.

    Boris is pretty lucky in that he isn't up for election for another three years or so. Hence, unlike Trump, his fate isn't going to be sealed by his reaction or non-reaction to the Wuhan virus.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Sue D. Nim

    But, as far as I’m aware, he’s opening the doors to millions of Hong Kong Chinese.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    @Rob McX

    Boris is far from populist.

    Even the leaving the EU thing was designed to protect the City of London.

  31. Zvi’s phrasing sounds unmistakeably iStevey.

  32. @notsaying
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the mask wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.

    Covid-19 is not a hoax.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Mike Tre

    It’s not fear of getting shot, it’s knowing the masks are pointless and not wanting to be a stasi.

  33. Anonymous[634] • Disclaimer says:

    Barely one month after the UK formally left the EU, Brexit has been vindicated in the shape of the successful UK roll out of the Covid vaccine, compared with the shambolic floundering of the EU, therefore giving the lie to the oft made assertion of UK euro enthusiasts of the EU’s superiority regarding the UK. Fate has worked out in totally unexpected ways.
    This affair – whose import cannot be underestimated – has basically destroyed the EU’s credibility for good in the UK, and amongst many continental Europeans, even amongst those previously well disposed toward it.

    A big and unequivocal win for Boris Johnson.

    • Replies: @Philip Owen
    @Anonymous

    "has basically destroyed the EU’s credibility for good in the UK". Delusional.

    We are being given a vaccine in a rush that works with a 3 weeks spacing. We bought the first batch hurriedly prior to full Brexit. We have no means of delivering the booster jab on time. Boris has even dragged out Rent an Epidemiologist to paint over the cracks by saying 12 weeks might be OK. The whole affair will be erased because we are not going back to normal. SARS2-CoV-19 is forever. There hasn't been a triumph and there won't be.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  34. I will magnanimously donate my vaccine shot to the poor.

    There! I did my bit for social justice.

    • Agree: Justvisiting
  35. For once, I truly do believe Diversity is Strength.

    I love watching how Diversity is now creating these conflicts.

    Whether it is Global Warming™, Climate Change™, or now the multiple, rushed, DNA-realted, non-vaccines…

    … which are not at all understood in the slightest by the faithful public who line up like communion church-goers to receive them…

    I love how Steve’s “Coalition of the Fringes” is jamming a few wrenches in the works.

    Hey! Maybe our American founders’ ideas are still working! Maybe this is still the process of mass mess that leads to a Hegelian aufhebung that is best for everything! Maybe??? Does this even occur to anyone else reading here?

    Many of us remember that just letting this stupid virus run its course would have by now resulted in some kind of “herd immunity” by now. (Ooh, I know that’s becoming a dirty term.)

    • Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Uh, oh. "Herd immunity"? That Would Be Telling You Off and JackD are gonna mess you up for that.

    , @Bert
    @Buzz Mohawk


    Many of us remember that just letting this stupid virus run its course would have by now resulted in some kind of “herd immunity” by now. (Ooh, I know that’s becoming a dirty term.)
     
    In March last year, I advocated the herd immunity approach, even to the extent of writing a fairly detailed plan and sending it to 7 of the 14 Republican senators who are physicians. However, such an approach does not solve the problem for everyone, nor apparently would it have gotten us to herd immunity yet (barring infection parties). There is a large number of the late-middle-aged, elderly, and those who are immunocompromised in which considerable mortality and life-affecting morbidity will occur. The only systematic way to protect them is with a vaccine. Even if very early treatment with repurposed drugs were used to treat future Covid infections in the vulnerable, the delivery of medical care, at least for the vulnerable not in assisted living facilities, might often be too inefficient (slow) to avoid substantial Covid mortality because anti-viral drugs must be given at symptom onset to work at high efficacy.

    The paper linked below posits that the other human coronaviruses that are endemic cause almost no mortality because in children they naturally almost never result in severe disease (unlike MERS), and childhood infection primes the immune system to limit infections later in life to the symptomatic level of bad colds. The future of SARS-2 over the next decades is probably to become just another cause of colds, as sequential cohorts of children are naturally infected.

    Immunological characteristics govern the transition of COVID-19 to endemicity
    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/01/11/science.abe6522

    A more serious society than ours could have protected the vulnerable by draconian restrictions on their socializing, as well as strict measures to keep SARS-2 out of nursing homes. Then everyone else could have kept the economy normal while vaccines were developed. But of course ours is not a serious society; AARP would have filed a class action suit opposing a lockdown applicable only to the vulnerable, and the suit would have been supported by a quite a lot of those elders now deceased from Covid.

    Or an attempt to protect the elderly with repurposed drugs during the wait for vaccines could have been made, but that was thwarted by a powerful 80-year old, whom no serious country would have allowed to pursue such an agenda.

  36. It won’t work on Internet Explorer; it only works in Chrome.

    It’s 2021.

    Anyone who proposes that “something should work in Internet Explorer” should be summarily dismissed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#End_of_life 7 years ago. And even then it was a hairball of insecurity, and both integrated into the OS and the Microsoft Marketing cancer.

    Top right of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

    Current usage: 1.13%. I don’t want to be any of the people in those 1.13% but they probably need equity.

    To Mary Ann Price, it’s important to give credit where it’s due: when VAMS works, it works.

    Everybody shall have prices. It’s not like we have been building interactive database systems since the 80s or so. They just didn’t have emoji and animated graphics.

    Oh well, just another thing to put on the stack of complete failures in Software Engineering.

    The explanation for how Deloitte could be the only approved source for a product like VAMS, despite having no direct experience in the field, comes down to onerous federal contracting requirements, [Hana Schank, the director of strategy for public-interest technology at the think tank New America. ] says. They often require a company to have a long history of federal contracts, which blocks smaller or newer companies that might be a better fit for the task.

    Why do these “requirements” exist? Uh…

    Those inefficiencies are magnified in the health sector. America’s heavily privatized medical system was held together by duct tape and bubble gum long before the biggest public health crisis of our lifetimes.

    “The health-care software industry is enormous, and it exists largely because it’s privatized, it’s not standardized,” says [Derrick Stone, a software development manager at UVA Health in Virginia]. “There are a lot of free-market inefficiencies. And the country doesn’t have a public health infrastructure, so there isn’t any real drive to fix it.”

    No you differently abled unicorn. There are a lot monopoly-based and corruption-based inefficiencies. Thatŝ not the same at all.

    With such management luminaries, winning is far away. We need a new planet.

    Here’s one from the UK

    UK’s Covid-19 ‘Test and Trace’ system cost a lot of money but still needs improving, minister says after damning investigation

    The service, which reportedly cost £12 billion, has repeatedly come under fire for a series of high-profile errors and for consistently missing targets.

    That’s 2/3 of Hinkley C nuclear power plant.

    UK Test and Trace chief Dido Harding tries to convince MPs that £14m for canned mobile app was money well spent

    “But we have QR Codes”

    England’s Test and Trace head told to self-isolate by her own service

    Baroness Dido Harding, who is the head of England’s NHS tracking service, revealed on Wednesday morning that she had been told to self-isolate after being contacted by her own service’s app.

    La Dido tried her hand at managing a private mobile service, allegedly thought that investing in security wasn’t worth it and got the whole database stolen. To the point she got called “Queen of Carnage”

    Dido queen of carnage steps down from TalkTalk: Founder Charles Dunstone to take helm of biz

    Harding presided over TalkTalk during its catastrophic cyber-attack in 2015, in which nearly 157,000 users’ financial details were divulged and which cost it £42m.

    Here’s another one. It sounds like something from Pirates of the Carribean.

    Private test and trace consultants ‘paid £7,000 a day by Government’

    Boston Consulting Group (BCG) was paid about £10 million for around 40 consultants to provide four months’ work between the end of April and late August, according to Sky News.

    The broadcaster said the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) received a 10 to 15 per cent discount from BCG, whose day rates for public sector work range from £2,400 to £7,360 for the most senior consultants.

    Its report comes amid ongoing criticism of the Government’s £12 billion test and trace system.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @El Dato

    Do you think they actually mean Internet Explorer or Edge?

    My parents (70s) are savvy enough to buy laptops and adapt to new Microsoft programs, but not savvy enough to install Linux and Brave and abandon the MS universe. I wonder if the article really means IE. If it means IE or Edge, then a lot of older people are probably getting shut out.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

    , @Dacian Julien Soros
    @El Dato

    "Anyone who proposes that “something should work in Internet Explorer” should be summarily dismissed." Listen, man, who are you to doubt the words of a (((top covid blogger))). Wanna do pushups with me, or IQ tests with Mr Sailer?

  37. • Replies: @El Dato
    @anon

    The "Gay Dolphins" then?

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @anon

    This explains a lot of the Forever War--normal Navy SeALs wanting bury their heads in the sand....

    , @TTSSYF
    @anon

    There are all kinds of weird sexual fetishes and always have been, but this is the first time in the modern era that they are exalted and encouraged to make public fools of themselves (e.g., Bruce Jenner in an evening gown and given an award, this clearly XY individual).

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @anon

    Navy SEALS are good crazy; transgenderism is sad crazy. And then there's Anderson Cooper -- bloodline scion, CIA-trained media figure. Sorry rationalists: reality laughs at your anti-conspiracy zealotry.

    , @Old and Grumpy
    @anon

    Dear Navy Seal, you still look like a man.

  38. @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Hypnotoad666

    Not in China it ain't.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @TTSSYF

    Not in China it ain’t.

    You must have just finished reading the NYTs latest fluff peace about how smart and wonderful our future overlords are. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/world/asia/china-covid-economy.html

    The Chinese government is stupid and inefficient also. But their citizens aren’t allowed to point it out. And the NYT is basically their paid PR agent in this country.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Hypnotoad666


    And the NYT is basically their paid PR agent in this country.
     
    One of hundreds, possibly thousands, along with all the true believers and useful idiots.
  39. @Kaz
    @Polistra

    Can't blame Mexicans or Blacks for Europe's vaccinations woes tho

    Replies: @tyrone

    “Can’t blame Mexicans or Blacks for Europe’s vaccinations woes tho”……….no one is…..we blame stupid-ass, leftard assholes…..I hope that clears things up.

    • Agree: TTSSYF, bomag
  40. • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @Anonymous

    Virtue signaling is a great way to get your potential adversaries to turn into hostile enemies--the gang in DC is gonna have to learn that lesson the hard way.

  41. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    It's a gene jab, not a vaccine. You'll diaper up and assburger-distance for the rest of your life. No, you won't dance with your wife sans facediaper come Valentine's Day 2021 - or 2025 or 2052 - regardless of Sailer's embarrassing and sentimental chemotherapy-fueled post viz this subject some weeks ago. The Democratic sociopaths cum vigorously in their panties every time you diaper up.

    Twice today I entered stores sans diaper, both times I left with goods in hand sans harassment from store employees. This is a hoax and a medical coding fraud - you know that, right?

    Replies: @notsaying, @Elmer T. Jones, @Sapient Idiot, @TTSSYF, @Midwit, @dvorak

    More like face panties. And women seem to like them, perhaps because it gives them a sense of allure their naked mugs don’t.

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Elmer T. Jones

    "More like face panties. And women seem to like them, perhaps because it gives them a sense of allure their naked mugs don’t."

    No. Women (and faggots) are sexually aroused by submission - so they love demeaning and humiliating themselves with the cuckdiaper of shame. It makes them wet - and makes faggots get an erection.

    The public facediaper is a sexual fetish.

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @Known Fact

  42. OT: While we are talking about Internet Explorer and other disagreebleness:

    Microsoft now boarding the “Our Democracy” train:

    Microsoft BANS donations to Republicans who objected to Biden victory & shifts lobbying focus to ‘promoting democracy’

    “We will suspend contributions for the duration of the 2022 election cycle to all members of Congress who voted to object to the certification of electors,” the company’s corporate vice president of US government affairs, Fred Humphries, said in a notice to Microsoft’s “PAC community.”

    In addition to the ongoing suspension of donations, Microsoft also noted that it would create a new project dubbed the “Democracy Forward Initiative,” which will throw money at “work that will address the issues and policies that are important to the preservation and promotion of democracy.” While the company gave few details on what that might involve, it said it would pursue “public transparency, campaign finance reform, and voting rights.”

    Well, looking forward to “Our Democracy” popups when you browse the corporate Internet.

    • LOL: Chrisnonymous
  43. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    It's a gene jab, not a vaccine. You'll diaper up and assburger-distance for the rest of your life. No, you won't dance with your wife sans facediaper come Valentine's Day 2021 - or 2025 or 2052 - regardless of Sailer's embarrassing and sentimental chemotherapy-fueled post viz this subject some weeks ago. The Democratic sociopaths cum vigorously in their panties every time you diaper up.

    Twice today I entered stores sans diaper, both times I left with goods in hand sans harassment from store employees. This is a hoax and a medical coding fraud - you know that, right?

    Replies: @notsaying, @Elmer T. Jones, @Sapient Idiot, @TTSSYF, @Midwit, @dvorak

    If cloth condoms were used HIV would have been eliminated. Cloth masks are just that good.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Sapient Idiot


    If cloth condoms were used HIV would have been eliminated. Cloth masks are just that good.
     
    Mask, double mask, triple mask ... one “expert” suggested four masks would be even better. I’d like all these public-health “experts” to start using duct tape to cover their own orifices ... for our protection.

    Replies: @Tetra

  44. @Thoughts
    Good for me, bad for the high-risk groups who need the vaccine.

    The software sucking from Deloitte is no surprise...I once picked up an Indian H1B friend at a Deloitte headquarters and every single person minus the security guard was H1B Indian.

    It's all words. It's all b.s. words.

    Wokeness is incompetent people spewing words to cover up their incompetence.

    Replies: @Herp McDerp

    Wokeness is incompetent people spewing words to cover up their incompetence.

    That’s pretty much the definition of Critical Theory: There is no objective reality, the world is defined by narratives and power relations. You can even survive using that principle as long as you are the one who is controlling other people through the exercise of power … and as long as objective reality doesn’t get in the way.

    But an edict won’t hold up a bridge built by incompetents.

    • Agree: Hypnotoad666
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Herp McDerp


    But an edict won’t hold up a bridge built by incompetents.
     
    If only the battle against wokeness could be fought on the field of merit and competence. Wokeness has no objective merit. Unfortunately, it is like a parasite that spreads by infiltrating competent organizations and feeding off the wealth and influence that was created by others.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  45. Not Being Racist is America’s highest priority in 2021, far beyond Getting The Job Done.

    COVID has been one spectacular tech failure after another, but who does most of the coding for these large consultants to the various governments? Don’t South Asians qualify as ‘diver$e’ ?

  46. Covid infections DOWN 44% since potato-head installed….WOW! ….”ex-spurts” baffled……..just like the blacks youts killing each other…..BAFFLING!……makes one want to bad-think.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
  47. @anon
    https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1357870403868385281

    Replies: @El Dato, @Chrisnonymous, @TTSSYF, @SunBakedSuburb, @Old and Grumpy

    The “Gay Dolphins” then?

  48. Anonymous[118] • Disclaimer says:

    Scott says the best blogger on Covid is some guy named Z vi Mowshowitz, who, not surprisingly turns out to be pretty good.

    Indeed. I always thought vi was better than emacs.

    Btw I will be looking to get vaccinated early with the Pfizer vaccine I think, it seems to offer the most efficacy for the least sides. One wonders whether a couple of vaccines would stack effectively, e.g. for the 10 in 100 of those who would otherwise not be immune, does another injection lower that chance of infection to say, 1 of those 10? Via a different mechanism of action? For the traveller it would be worth considering.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Anonymous


    One wonders whether a couple of vaccines would stack effectively, e.g. for the 10 in 100 of those who would otherwise not be immune, does another injection lower that chance of infection to say, 1 of those 10? Via a different mechanism of action?
     
    For all the "active" vaccines, mRNA like Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, and virus vector like AZ/Oxford, Gamaleya (Sputnik-V), and Janssen, probably not. All of them hijack a small number of cells to make essentially the same spike protein inside those cells, so I'd imagine we'd be surprised if the immune system latched onto different parts, "epitopes" of the protein to make antibodies etc. against.

    Only different mechanism that's anywhere far along and potentially available to most of us, while it still uses the same spike protein, is the protein plus adjuvant vaccines, Novavax, Medicago/GSK and maybe by the end of this year Sanofi/GSK's V2.0 attempt. I'm not counting Cuban, Indian or PRC vaccines for obvious reasons along with ones that haven't finished Phase II trials, but there is one Russian exception, their Vector Institute's EpiVacCorona which uses bits of copies of viral proteins small enough to be "peptides" plus an aluminum based adjuvant. Perhaps one or more of those peptides is from the nucleocapsid protein, which is featured in natural immunity from the wild type virus along with the spike protein.

    Per one article I just read, it doesn't require the freezing that Gamaleya's does, unique among virus vector vaccines, all of which might be less effective than Gamaleya's ... we will have to wait and see what Janssen's two jab Phase III clinical trial reveals. Just normal medical refrigeration, 2-8 C or 36-46 F.
  49. @Sapient Idiot
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    If cloth condoms were used HIV would have been eliminated. Cloth masks are just that good.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    If cloth condoms were used HIV would have been eliminated. Cloth masks are just that good.

    Mask, double mask, triple mask … one “expert” suggested four masks would be even better. I’d like all these public-health “experts” to start using duct tape to cover their own orifices … for our protection.

    • Replies: @Tetra
    @The Alarmist

    I believe that the multiple mask statements are a propaganda tool intended to shift discussion to mask vs. multiple masks instead of mask vs. no mask. As a bonus it counters effectiveness arguments of no mask proponents by acknowledging the lack of effectiveness of one mask while still pushing masks as a solution only now you need many masks.

  50. @El Dato

    It won’t work on Internet Explorer; it only works in Chrome.
     
    It's 2021.

    Anyone who proposes that "something should work in Internet Explorer" should be summarily dismissed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#End_of_life 7 years ago. And even then it was a hairball of insecurity, and both integrated into the OS and the Microsoft Marketing cancer.

    Top right of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

    Current usage: 1.13%. I don't want to be any of the people in those 1.13% but they probably need equity.


    To Mary Ann Price, it’s important to give credit where it’s due: when VAMS works, it works.
     
    Everybody shall have prices. It's not like we have been building interactive database systems since the 80s or so. They just didn't have emoji and animated graphics.

    Oh well, just another thing to put on the stack of complete failures in Software Engineering.


    The explanation for how Deloitte could be the only approved source for a product like VAMS, despite having no direct experience in the field, comes down to onerous federal contracting requirements, [Hana Schank, the director of strategy for public-interest technology at the think tank New America. ] says. They often require a company to have a long history of federal contracts, which blocks smaller or newer companies that might be a better fit for the task.
     
    Why do these "requirements" exist? Uh...

    Those inefficiencies are magnified in the health sector. America’s heavily privatized medical system was held together by duct tape and bubble gum long before the biggest public health crisis of our lifetimes.

    “The health-care software industry is enormous, and it exists largely because it’s privatized, it’s not standardized,” says [Derrick Stone, a software development manager at UVA Health in Virginia]. “There are a lot of free-market inefficiencies. And the country doesn’t have a public health infrastructure, so there isn’t any real drive to fix it.”
     

    No you differently abled unicorn. There are a lot monopoly-based and corruption-based inefficiencies. Thatŝ not the same at all.

    With such management luminaries, winning is far away. We need a new planet.

    Here's one from the UK

    UK’s Covid-19 ‘Test and Trace’ system cost a lot of money but still needs improving, minister says after damning investigation


    The service, which reportedly cost £12 billion, has repeatedly come under fire for a series of high-profile errors and for consistently missing targets.
     
    That's 2/3 of Hinkley C nuclear power plant.

    UK Test and Trace chief Dido Harding tries to convince MPs that £14m for canned mobile app was money well spent

    "But we have QR Codes"

    England’s Test and Trace head told to self-isolate by her own service


    Baroness Dido Harding, who is the head of England’s NHS tracking service, revealed on Wednesday morning that she had been told to self-isolate after being contacted by her own service’s app.
     
    La Dido tried her hand at managing a private mobile service, allegedly thought that investing in security wasn't worth it and got the whole database stolen. To the point she got called "Queen of Carnage"

    Dido queen of carnage steps down from TalkTalk: Founder Charles Dunstone to take helm of biz


    Harding presided over TalkTalk during its catastrophic cyber-attack in 2015, in which nearly 157,000 users' financial details were divulged and which cost it £42m.
     
    Here's another one. It sounds like something from Pirates of the Carribean.

    Private test and trace consultants 'paid £7,000 a day by Government'


    Boston Consulting Group (BCG) was paid about £10 million for around 40 consultants to provide four months' work between the end of April and late August, according to Sky News.

    The broadcaster said the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) received a 10 to 15 per cent discount from BCG, whose day rates for public sector work range from £2,400 to £7,360 for the most senior consultants.

    Its report comes amid ongoing criticism of the Government's £12 billion test and trace system.
     

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Dacian Julien Soros

    Do you think they actually mean Internet Explorer or Edge?

    My parents (70s) are savvy enough to buy laptops and adapt to new Microsoft programs, but not savvy enough to install Linux and Brave and abandon the MS universe. I wonder if the article really means IE. If it means IE or Edge, then a lot of older people are probably getting shut out.

    • Replies: @Johnny Smoggins
    @Chrisnonymous

    It takes about fifteen minutes to download and then use the Brave browser. It's not like Linux where you need to learn a whole new system. The Brave browser is no more difficult to use than IE, Chrome or any other.

    Your parents might not be interested, but it also comes with a built in Tor browser, something we may all need to read UR in the very near future.

  51. This is a horrific video from 1929 :

    A vaccine had been developed in 1885 but a modern vaccine wasn’t introduced until the 1980’s .
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine

    There are 59,000 deaths world wide 1-3 cases annually in the US . India has the highest number of deaths with 20,000 annually and the majority of the remainder are in Asia .

    Both the videos are equally horrifying , the children are terrified but have no idea what’s in store for them within a matter of a few hours . The man in India is fully aware of his fate and the hellish suffering he will endure .

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @donut

    https://twitter.com/davidquammen/status/1337438550510301184


    The most lethal of bat-borne viruses, for humans, is rabies, now recognized as one member of a diverse group called the lyssaviruses (as in Lyssa, the Greek goddess of frenzy and rage), most of them associated with bats. Humans have been aware of rabies at least since Democritus, in the fifth century B.C. We’ve seen it in our dogs, sometimes driven mad, like Old Yeller, and occasionally in an unlucky person who got bit. The fatality rate for rabies, absent prompt post-exposure vaccination, is nearly 100 percent, and the disease still kills tens of thousands of people each year.

    But from what original source did rabies get into dogs or raccoons or skunks or the other carnivores from whose saliva it drips into a bite wound? The first clue to that mystery came in 1911, when rabies virus was reported among bats by an Italian scientist in Brazil, Antonio Carini, who noted the odd detail that it didn’t seem to make the bats sick. That suggested a long relationship between the bats and the virus, which had perhaps reached a mutual accommodation: a secure habitat for the virus, no symptoms for the host.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @donut

    Now you know why they *all* want to run into and takeover the west.

  52. @anon
    https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1357870403868385281

    Replies: @El Dato, @Chrisnonymous, @TTSSYF, @SunBakedSuburb, @Old and Grumpy

    This explains a lot of the Forever War–normal Navy SeALs wanting bury their heads in the sand….

  53. Washington DC prioritizes vaccine opportunities partly by ZIP code, i.e., race, and almost all vaccination stations are located in Northeast, i.e., black, DC. But to get an appointment you must play Beat The Clock on the vaccine website, or opportunities will close before you can get an appointment. Result: of my group of 15 vaccine recipients February 4, 14 were white and one was a very elderly black lady in a wheel chair with a caretaker.

    Vaccination process was very professional, with 10-minute orientation talk, form to ensure risks are minimized, then shot, then 15-miniute voluntary waiting period so staff can see if you keel over, and you can reserve second-shot appointment.

    Still, it’s a nine-to-five operation, with lunch hour off, on weekdays only, which seems a bit casual for what the Media-Democrat Party has been characterizing as the worst catastrophe of modern times.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Henry Canaday


    Still, [D.C.'s is] a nine-to-five operation, with lunch hour off, on weekdays only, which seems a bit casual for what the Media-Democrat Party has been characterizing as the worst catastrophe of modern times.
     
    As long as demand for vaccines massively exceeds supplies, there's no point to go all Maximum Effort on the process. And even if Janssen's single jab gets an EUA from the FDA this month, the company reported they were going to miss their through this month promise of supplying 12 million doses, although I don't recall anything about by how much. I suspect it's a tiny bit like the production problems the new technology mRNA vaccine companies are wrangling with, Janssen has never tried to make millions of doses using their virus vector platform, only thousands for their successful European Phase III trial of it being used for an Ebola vaccine (it wasn't the one used so successfully in the most recent outbreak).

    Replies: @Henry Canaday

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Henry Canaday

    "Vaccination process was very professional"

    Stadium mass-vaccination sites fit well with our current dystopia. Black lady leadership which won't be guided by childish emotions at all will trigger systems collapse. In sixteen years only the soylent processing sites will be operating at full capacity. We will have been feeding the worms long before then so no worries.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Henry Canaday

    Henry, two weeks ago I finally got through to the NYS call center and they gave me an appt on March 13th, which meant I only had to wait two full months. Still trying all the pharmacy websites but no luck. A local black Baptist Church managed to secure 350 shots for their parishoners, hmmm. There are politics galore in NYS' roll out.

  54. @El Dato

    It won’t work on Internet Explorer; it only works in Chrome.
     
    It's 2021.

    Anyone who proposes that "something should work in Internet Explorer" should be summarily dismissed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer#End_of_life 7 years ago. And even then it was a hairball of insecurity, and both integrated into the OS and the Microsoft Marketing cancer.

    Top right of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers

    Current usage: 1.13%. I don't want to be any of the people in those 1.13% but they probably need equity.


    To Mary Ann Price, it’s important to give credit where it’s due: when VAMS works, it works.
     
    Everybody shall have prices. It's not like we have been building interactive database systems since the 80s or so. They just didn't have emoji and animated graphics.

    Oh well, just another thing to put on the stack of complete failures in Software Engineering.


    The explanation for how Deloitte could be the only approved source for a product like VAMS, despite having no direct experience in the field, comes down to onerous federal contracting requirements, [Hana Schank, the director of strategy for public-interest technology at the think tank New America. ] says. They often require a company to have a long history of federal contracts, which blocks smaller or newer companies that might be a better fit for the task.
     
    Why do these "requirements" exist? Uh...

    Those inefficiencies are magnified in the health sector. America’s heavily privatized medical system was held together by duct tape and bubble gum long before the biggest public health crisis of our lifetimes.

    “The health-care software industry is enormous, and it exists largely because it’s privatized, it’s not standardized,” says [Derrick Stone, a software development manager at UVA Health in Virginia]. “There are a lot of free-market inefficiencies. And the country doesn’t have a public health infrastructure, so there isn’t any real drive to fix it.”
     

    No you differently abled unicorn. There are a lot monopoly-based and corruption-based inefficiencies. Thatŝ not the same at all.

    With such management luminaries, winning is far away. We need a new planet.

    Here's one from the UK

    UK’s Covid-19 ‘Test and Trace’ system cost a lot of money but still needs improving, minister says after damning investigation


    The service, which reportedly cost £12 billion, has repeatedly come under fire for a series of high-profile errors and for consistently missing targets.
     
    That's 2/3 of Hinkley C nuclear power plant.

    UK Test and Trace chief Dido Harding tries to convince MPs that £14m for canned mobile app was money well spent

    "But we have QR Codes"

    England’s Test and Trace head told to self-isolate by her own service


    Baroness Dido Harding, who is the head of England’s NHS tracking service, revealed on Wednesday morning that she had been told to self-isolate after being contacted by her own service’s app.
     
    La Dido tried her hand at managing a private mobile service, allegedly thought that investing in security wasn't worth it and got the whole database stolen. To the point she got called "Queen of Carnage"

    Dido queen of carnage steps down from TalkTalk: Founder Charles Dunstone to take helm of biz


    Harding presided over TalkTalk during its catastrophic cyber-attack in 2015, in which nearly 157,000 users' financial details were divulged and which cost it £42m.
     
    Here's another one. It sounds like something from Pirates of the Carribean.

    Private test and trace consultants 'paid £7,000 a day by Government'


    Boston Consulting Group (BCG) was paid about £10 million for around 40 consultants to provide four months' work between the end of April and late August, according to Sky News.

    The broadcaster said the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) received a 10 to 15 per cent discount from BCG, whose day rates for public sector work range from £2,400 to £7,360 for the most senior consultants.

    Its report comes amid ongoing criticism of the Government's £12 billion test and trace system.
     

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Dacian Julien Soros

    “Anyone who proposes that “something should work in Internet Explorer” should be summarily dismissed.” Listen, man, who are you to doubt the words of a (((top covid blogger))). Wanna do pushups with me, or IQ tests with Mr Sailer?

  55. anon[189] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s clear that the experts used the time during which the vaccine was being developed…months and months…arguing about what they found a delectable problem, distributing a new product in high demand under conditions of shortage. When better to go on record as pro black/equity. And maybe even in attributed publications.

    I hope they are sufficiently on record that they get full credit for the fiasco, chaos, and inefficiency. I, for one, will never forget that they were fine with white males dying.

    Even more enraging is that their pets could care less and are “vaccine hesitant”. And the entire public health scheme is relying on those same white people to line up and follow rules.

    And fortunately, the Biden rollout is angering people, but it is more effective than it looks. Demand is now so high that for the last month, vaccines given more or less equal vaccine distributed. And in a month, most of the 1B’s that want it will have it.

    Part of this is that it is being rolled out to retail pharmacies, who will get shots into arms in a practical fashion. Moderate attention to process with emphasis on getting bodies out the door.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @anon

    Plus if you get the shot at your local Walgreens or Rite-Aid you can picks up some cigs and Pringles on the way out

  56. @Rob McX
    @Alt Right Moderate

    But, as far as I'm aware, he's opening the doors to millions of Hong Kong Chinese.

    Replies: @Gordo

    Boris is far from populist.

    Even the leaving the EU thing was designed to protect the City of London.

  57. Anon[133] • Disclaimer says:

    Scott Alexander really made a clever transition away from blogging: he has a negotiated deal with SubStack, where he can build a mailing list in case SS drops him later, and he transferred his psych practice to online-only, medication selection and dosage only, tele-psychiatry. He never has to meet anyone, he has no boss to cancel him (well, medical license?), and his dependence on particular web services is minimal. He’s not taking new patients while he waits and sees, so he can’t be ambushed like the cake baker guy was.

  58. @Barack Obama's secret Unz account
    I hope those doctors are just saying they've thrown out the vaccines, and are secretly offering off-the-books vaccinations to those as wants them

    Replies: @Thoughts, @SF

    They are offering them. Don’t have time right now to look it up but there was a story in main stream media about a middle aged white couple who went to a public vaccination event and stayed until end of day, when the pharmacist announced they had eight left over for stand by people. The story was ambivalent as to whether this was morally correct.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @SF



    I hope those doctors are just saying they’ve thrown out the vaccines, and are secretly offering off-the-books vaccinations to those as wants them
     
    They are offering them. Don’t have time right now to look it up but there was a story in main stream media about a middle aged white couple who went to a public vaccination event and stayed until end of day, when the pharmacist announced they had eight left over for stand by people. The story was ambivalent as to whether this was morally correct.
     
    Off the books would still need to be in someone's books for the followup booster dose, and New York's penalties are too high for most to want to risk.

    But outside that Communist state as an alternative to throwing them away anyone sane says use then, even if you're not sure they're still good or if you'll be able to give a second dose at the prescribed time. Based on this principle some 50+ doses of unknown quality in the second batch that were deliberately left outside the fridge by that anti-vaxxer pharmacist were given to patients in the hospital on the solid theory they might do some good, and would almost certainly cause no harm. Ah, and they might have contacted Moderna for an opinion, the company says contact them first before throwing away bottles that have been shaken.
  59. @notsaying
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the mask wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.

    Covid-19 is not a hoax.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Mike Tre

    “The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the [diaper] wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.”

    Good. This needs to happen A LOT.

    Even better: smash every diaperface upside the head, knock them out, and tattoo a diaper on their face they can never remove.

    Imbeciles need to fear wearing diapers in public.

    • Replies: @Space Ghost
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Nice fedposting. You're glowing a bit hard right now though.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    , @Corvinus
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Comment--“The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the [diaper] wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.”

    You--Good. This needs to happen A LOT.

    So murdering innocent people solves the problem? Your comment only confirms you are a feral, vile creature.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    , @Freedom Awaits
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    BY FAR the best covid related comment I have read here. We have become a nation of cowards terrified of any confrontation and even more terrified at being called a name. The "public" school system has gone above and beyond in terms of keeping the population ignorant and careless about reality. The majority of folks would snitch on their mother before standing up for her. Pathetic!

  60. @Elmer T. Jones
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    More like face panties. And women seem to like them, perhaps because it gives them a sense of allure their naked mugs don't.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    “More like face panties. And women seem to like them, perhaps because it gives them a sense of allure their naked mugs don’t.”

    No. Women (and faggots) are sexually aroused by submission – so they love demeaning and humiliating themselves with the cuckdiaper of shame. It makes them wet – and makes faggots get an erection.

    The public facediaper is a sexual fetish.

    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @AKAHorace
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    No. Women (and faggots) are sexually aroused by submission – so they love demeaning and humiliating themselves with the cuckdiaper of shame. It makes them wet – and makes faggots get an erection.
     
    You are disturbingly well informed about this Mateen. Hope you didn't have to do too much field research to get these findings.
    , @Known Fact
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen


    Women love demeaning and humiliating themselves with the cuckdiaper of shame... The public facediaper is a sexual fetish.
     
    It's Karen Nation now and women do seem to enjoy masking up. But if we're going to throw around psycho-sexual theories we are duty-bound to include "Perhaps it's a way to somehow reclaim their lost innocence and virginity."
  61. “Europe’s vaccination rollout “has descended into chaos,” as Sylvie Kauffmann of Le Monde, the French newspaper, has written. One of the worst performers is the Netherlands, which has given a shot to less than 2 percent of residents.”

    Good news! The Dutch aren’t stupid. You know there’s something very foul afoot when even the Dutch riot.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/covid-restrictions-lead-third-night-rioting-netherlands-n1255631

  62. @donut
    This is a horrific video from 1929 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2JsubL1Xv0

    A vaccine had been developed in 1885 but a modern vaccine wasn't introduced until the 1980's .
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine

    There are 59,000 deaths world wide 1-3 cases annually in the US . India has the highest number of deaths with 20,000 annually and the majority of the remainder are in Asia .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAUBGRpyq2c

    Both the videos are equally horrifying , the children are terrified but have no idea what's in store for them within a matter of a few hours . The man in India is fully aware of his fate and the hellish suffering he will endure .

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Anonymous


    [MORE]

    The most lethal of bat-borne viruses, for humans, is rabies, now recognized as one member of a diverse group called the lyssaviruses (as in Lyssa, the Greek goddess of frenzy and rage), most of them associated with bats. Humans have been aware of rabies at least since Democritus, in the fifth century B.C. We’ve seen it in our dogs, sometimes driven mad, like Old Yeller, and occasionally in an unlucky person who got bit. The fatality rate for rabies, absent prompt post-exposure vaccination, is nearly 100 percent, and the disease still kills tens of thousands of people each year.

    But from what original source did rabies get into dogs or raccoons or skunks or the other carnivores from whose saliva it drips into a bite wound? The first clue to that mystery came in 1911, when rabies virus was reported among bats by an Italian scientist in Brazil, Antonio Carini, who noted the odd detail that it didn’t seem to make the bats sick. That suggested a long relationship between the bats and the virus, which had perhaps reached a mutual accommodation: a secure habitat for the virus, no symptoms for the host.

    • Thanks: donut
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @MEH 0910

    Comeback, Ozzy Osbourne,

    All is forgiven.

  63. @notsaying
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the mask wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.

    Covid-19 is not a hoax.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Je Suis Omar Mateen, @Mike Tre

    Lol what a total crock of shit. Please, establish a basis for all the “DENIERS!!!!1!” who are shooting up retail stores due to masks enforcement.

    In my experience, the lockdowns have revealed the groups of people most enthusiastic about revealing their inner petty tyrant: young mestizo females are by far the worst, but females in general have been all about using the power to deny service to enforce these rules. None of these people have any fear; they have the full power of the state on their side.

    The risk of this weak virus has been overstated to a preposterous degree in order to subject the entire country to instant tyranny. It’s as simple as that.

  64. @NJ Transit Commuter
    It never fails. When governments seek “equity,” they can achieve it. But it’s only by lowering standards for everyone, not raising them.

    Like Margaret Thatcher said once, “(Socialists) would rather the poor were poorer, provided the rich were less rich.” In 2021, a smart politician should go around saying, “Progressives would rather more minorities die of COVID, provided less whites get vaccinated.”

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Arclight

    This is what happens with a country loses its self-confidence. Once a country (or company, team, whatever) shifts from a forward-looking mindset to a retrospective one, stagnation is sure to follow.

    We – with a few exceptions – are no longer looking ahead and thinking about how to maximize the use of our resources and human capital for things that will make all of society better off, but looking backwards at our pseudo-historical sins and deciding which ordinary people need to be handicapped to atone for the guilt our elites feel, and who gets a leg up for the same reason although without having to earn it in any way.

    If the right had any brains at all, it would incessantly remind people that the left’s plans explicitly mean leaving a lot of the country behind in its priorities, and has no interest in helping secure a better future for them or their children.

  65. @Henry Canaday
    Washington DC prioritizes vaccine opportunities partly by ZIP code, i.e., race, and almost all vaccination stations are located in Northeast, i.e., black, DC. But to get an appointment you must play Beat The Clock on the vaccine website, or opportunities will close before you can get an appointment. Result: of my group of 15 vaccine recipients February 4, 14 were white and one was a very elderly black lady in a wheel chair with a caretaker.

    Vaccination process was very professional, with 10-minute orientation talk, form to ensure risks are minimized, then shot, then 15-miniute voluntary waiting period so staff can see if you keel over, and you can reserve second-shot appointment.

    Still, it’s a nine-to-five operation, with lunch hour off, on weekdays only, which seems a bit casual for what the Media-Democrat Party has been characterizing as the worst catastrophe of modern times.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @SunBakedSuburb, @Buffalo Joe

    Still, [D.C.’s is] a nine-to-five operation, with lunch hour off, on weekdays only, which seems a bit casual for what the Media-Democrat Party has been characterizing as the worst catastrophe of modern times.

    As long as demand for vaccines massively exceeds supplies, there’s no point to go all Maximum Effort on the process. And even if Janssen’s single jab gets an EUA from the FDA this month, the company reported they were going to miss their through this month promise of supplying 12 million doses, although I don’t recall anything about by how much. I suspect it’s a tiny bit like the production problems the new technology mRNA vaccine companies are wrangling with, Janssen has never tried to make millions of doses using their virus vector platform, only thousands for their successful European Phase III trial of it being used for an Ebola vaccine (it wasn’t the one used so successfully in the most recent outbreak).

    • Replies: @Henry Canaday
    @That Would Be Telling

    Thanks, good point if critical path is vaccine availability. DC seems to be working though top vaccine priorities with a weekly allocation of vaccines available. 12-hour days would just get each week's recipients through the process a little faster.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  66. @Thoughts
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    They are throwing them out, pretty sure.

    There's evidently a fine if you get caught giving the vaccine to the wrong people.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    They are throwing them out [in New York state], pretty sure.

    There’s evidently a fine if you get caught giving the vaccine to the wrong people.

    A Doctor Evil one, one million dollars, plus loss of licenses. And not an idle threat as Montefiore New Rochelle Hospital found out early this year for the benefit of everyone else in the state. Cuomo then added a fine of $100,000 if hospitals didn’t speed up vaccinations, as well as getting cut off from further supplies.

    Other notes about this thug’s vaccination policies: he threw away the plans that had been developed over months at the last moment to using hospitals, plus some new types of clinics the state was going to develop from scratch to administer vaccines to the usual disadvantages suspects. But this is tied to a web reservation system that if you don’t have any accounts already set up can take as many as 51 distinct steps, including uploading a copy of an ID. Needless to say lots of elderly are only getting through this gauntlet with the help of younger more computer literate family and friends.

    Although after getting a lot of bad press for the first time ever in the pandemic, he is easing some of these crazy policies.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @That Would Be Telling

    Cuomo must be the one guy who is able to demonstrate live why the Soviet Union didn't work and would have crashed much sooner with wokeness had been added to the mix.

    I actually suspect him of deliberately wrecking the whole place, for reason I cannot fathom. Maybe he hopes to usher in the Age of the Planet of the Apes sooner.

    Here is one about masks not working in hospitals and probably elsewhere:

    More than 3,000 patients a week, like poor old Captain Tom, are being infected with Covid while in hospital for other ailments


    To carry out this study, a ferret – it cannot be done, ethically, in humans – was first infected with Sars-CoV-2 [does that really work?]. It was then placed in a cage, connected to another one above it, containing a second ferret, via a duct with four 90-degree bends in to prevent all possible droplet spread. That’s what’s known as serpentine ductwork. In short, the only possible way the ferret above could be infected was via airborne spread.

    In repeated experiments, every single ferret in the upper cage became infected via airborne transmission through the serpentine ductwork. The study’s premise was ‘SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 are transmitted through the air between ferrets over more than one meter distance’.

    The implications of this, and the earlier work done on smallpox transmission, is the following: gloves, plastic aprons and loose-fitting masks can have no significant effect on the transmission of the virus. It is in the air, in very small aerosols. It will be breathed in, or get into people’s eyes, or land on their skin, where they will touch it, and then touch their mouths.

    Hospitals, containing a lot of people breathing out the virus, are where people will breathe it in and become infected. You cannot, in truth, stop it happening. Well, you could, but the level of protection required is far beyond any hospital setting or budget. The current figures demonstrating hospital transmission are not really a surprise. The only real surprise is that the rate of infection is not higher.
     

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

  67. @RichardTaylor

    Not Being Racist is America’s highest priority in 2021, far beyond Getting The Job Done.
     
    That's not true. You can be totally racist. What you must be is anti-White.

    We have to keep repeating there's an obvious anti-White agenda even to HBDers.

    Replies: @Glaivester

    Yes. Our overlords are anti-White. Once you understand that they want to get rid of us, things make much more sense.

    But don’t use the term racist. That’s their word, not ours.

    • Agree: RichardTaylor
  68. @Buzz Mohawk
    For once, I truly do believe Diversity is Strength.

    I love watching how Diversity is now creating these conflicts.

    Whether it is Global Warming™, Climate Change™, or now the multiple, rushed, DNA-realted, non-vaccines...


    ... which are not at all understood in the slightest by the faithful public who line up like communion church-goers to receive them...

    I love how Steve's "Coalition of the Fringes" is jamming a few wrenches in the works.

    Hey! Maybe our American founders' ideas are still working! Maybe this is still the process of mass mess that leads to a Hegelian aufhebung that is best for everything! Maybe??? Does this even occur to anyone else reading here?

    Many of us remember that just letting this stupid virus run its course would have by now resulted in some kind of "herd immunity" by now. (Ooh, I know that's becoming a dirty term.)

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @Bert

    Uh, oh. “Herd immunity”? That Would Be Telling You Off and JackD are gonna mess you up for that.

  69. @Chrisnonymous
    @El Dato

    Do you think they actually mean Internet Explorer or Edge?

    My parents (70s) are savvy enough to buy laptops and adapt to new Microsoft programs, but not savvy enough to install Linux and Brave and abandon the MS universe. I wonder if the article really means IE. If it means IE or Edge, then a lot of older people are probably getting shut out.

    Replies: @Johnny Smoggins

    It takes about fifteen minutes to download and then use the Brave browser. It’s not like Linux where you need to learn a whole new system. The Brave browser is no more difficult to use than IE, Chrome or any other.

    Your parents might not be interested, but it also comes with a built in Tor browser, something we may all need to read UR in the very near future.

  70. @Anonymous
    Scott says the best blogger on Covid is some guy named Z vi Mowshowitz, who, not surprisingly turns out to be pretty good.

    Indeed. I always thought vi was better than emacs.

    Btw I will be looking to get vaccinated early with the Pfizer vaccine I think, it seems to offer the most efficacy for the least sides. One wonders whether a couple of vaccines would stack effectively, e.g. for the 10 in 100 of those who would otherwise not be immune, does another injection lower that chance of infection to say, 1 of those 10? Via a different mechanism of action? For the traveller it would be worth considering.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    One wonders whether a couple of vaccines would stack effectively, e.g. for the 10 in 100 of those who would otherwise not be immune, does another injection lower that chance of infection to say, 1 of those 10? Via a different mechanism of action?

    For all the “active” vaccines, mRNA like Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna, and virus vector like AZ/Oxford, Gamaleya (Sputnik-V), and Janssen, probably not. All of them hijack a small number of cells to make essentially the same spike protein inside those cells, so I’d imagine we’d be surprised if the immune system latched onto different parts, “epitopes” of the protein to make antibodies etc. against.

    Only different mechanism that’s anywhere far along and potentially available to most of us, while it still uses the same spike protein, is the protein plus adjuvant vaccines, Novavax, Medicago/GSK and maybe by the end of this year Sanofi/GSK’s V2.0 attempt. I’m not counting Cuban, Indian or PRC vaccines for obvious reasons along with ones that haven’t finished Phase II trials, but there is one Russian exception, their Vector Institute’s EpiVacCorona which uses bits of copies of viral proteins small enough to be “peptides” plus an aluminum based adjuvant. Perhaps one or more of those peptides is from the nucleocapsid protein, which is featured in natural immunity from the wild type virus along with the spike protein.

    Per one article I just read, it doesn’t require the freezing that Gamaleya’s does, unique among virus vector vaccines, all of which might be less effective than Gamaleya’s … we will have to wait and see what Janssen’s two jab Phase III clinical trial reveals. Just normal medical refrigeration, 2-8 C or 36-46 F.

  71. @MEH 0910
    @donut

    https://twitter.com/davidquammen/status/1337438550510301184


    The most lethal of bat-borne viruses, for humans, is rabies, now recognized as one member of a diverse group called the lyssaviruses (as in Lyssa, the Greek goddess of frenzy and rage), most of them associated with bats. Humans have been aware of rabies at least since Democritus, in the fifth century B.C. We’ve seen it in our dogs, sometimes driven mad, like Old Yeller, and occasionally in an unlucky person who got bit. The fatality rate for rabies, absent prompt post-exposure vaccination, is nearly 100 percent, and the disease still kills tens of thousands of people each year.

    But from what original source did rabies get into dogs or raccoons or skunks or the other carnivores from whose saliva it drips into a bite wound? The first clue to that mystery came in 1911, when rabies virus was reported among bats by an Italian scientist in Brazil, Antonio Carini, who noted the odd detail that it didn’t seem to make the bats sick. That suggested a long relationship between the bats and the virus, which had perhaps reached a mutual accommodation: a secure habitat for the virus, no symptoms for the host.
     

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Comeback, Ozzy Osbourne,

    All is forgiven.

  72. @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Hypnotoad666

    Not in China it ain't.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @TTSSYF

    You mean like how, in China, a novel coronavirus was allowed either to develop (from the Chinese eating exotic animals and/or keeping different species together in close quarters, allowing viruses to jump across species) or to escape (from the Fauci-funded Wuhan lab during gain-of-function experiments) and spread across the globe, sickening or killing millions? That kind of “control”?

    It’s abundantly clear that you’re a mumblebrain, and I suppose it follows that only a mumblebrain would refer to himself as such. But as is said about fools, better to remain silent and let those around you wonder whether you’re a mumblebrain or not than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.

  73. @Mulga Mumblebrain
    @Polistra

    Results without process and equity result in injustice and inefficiency. You can walk and chew gum at the same time you know.

    Replies: @Jack D

    No you can’t.

    Say you have 100 doses of vaccine. “Results” says that you should give them to the first 100 people you can find, regardless of race. “Equity” says that you give 50 of them to whites and 50 to People of Color. But maybe you can’t find 50 People of Color willing to take the vaccine that day because Tuskegee Experiment, etc. You can only find 30 and you have to throw the other 20 doses in the trash in order to achieve “Equity”.

    This is not “justice” – it is “racial justice”. Real justice needs no adjectives. Remember that justice wears a blindfold. “Racial justice” peeks.

    And obviously this is not efficient. The whole point of equity is that you need to sacrifice efficiency to achieve it. The market achieve efficiency on its own. “Equity” means that the government must put its thumb on the scale because it doesn’t like the results produced by the people without the wise “guidance” of the elites.

    Of course it is the dream of all Leftists everywhere and at all times that you can have it all – “Bread AND Roses”. You can’t and every time you try it usually ends it tears – not only don’t you get bread and roses, you end up with less of both. The pie is not static – if you try to carve it up “more fairly” it shrinks before your very eyes so EVERYONE gets a smaller slice.

  74. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    It's a gene jab, not a vaccine. You'll diaper up and assburger-distance for the rest of your life. No, you won't dance with your wife sans facediaper come Valentine's Day 2021 - or 2025 or 2052 - regardless of Sailer's embarrassing and sentimental chemotherapy-fueled post viz this subject some weeks ago. The Democratic sociopaths cum vigorously in their panties every time you diaper up.

    Twice today I entered stores sans diaper, both times I left with goods in hand sans harassment from store employees. This is a hoax and a medical coding fraud - you know that, right?

    Replies: @notsaying, @Elmer T. Jones, @Sapient Idiot, @TTSSYF, @Midwit, @dvorak

    I don’t doubt that the virus is real. It’s the reaction to it that’s been utterly insane and little more than a opportunistic power grab by sociopathic ‘rats who have no allegiance to the U.S.

    • Replies: @James Forrestal
    @TTSSYF


    I don’t doubt that the virus is real. It’s the reaction to it that’s been utterly insane and little more than a opportunistic power grab by sociopathic ‘rats who have no allegiance to the U.S.
     
    As dual citizen IDF veteran, notorious semitic supremacist, and former Clinton/ Obama handler Rahm Emanuel once said:

    "You never want a serious crisis to go to waste"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mzcbXi1Tkk

    Oh wait -- he said it again (12:18):

    https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/hit-rewind-button-real-life-gov-chris-christie-69737416

    Referring to the Rona, of course.

    How they can weaponize problems in the real world by incorporating them into a narrative that helps to implement their existing goals will always take priority over serious attempts to actually solve those problems.
  75. @anon
    https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1357870403868385281

    Replies: @El Dato, @Chrisnonymous, @TTSSYF, @SunBakedSuburb, @Old and Grumpy

    There are all kinds of weird sexual fetishes and always have been, but this is the first time in the modern era that they are exalted and encouraged to make public fools of themselves (e.g., Bruce Jenner in an evening gown and given an award, this clearly XY individual).

  76. @That Would Be Telling
    @Thoughts


    They are throwing them out [in New York state], pretty sure.

    There’s evidently a fine if you get caught giving the vaccine to the wrong people.
     
    A Doctor Evil one, one million dollars, plus loss of licenses. And not an idle threat as Montefiore New Rochelle Hospital found out early this year for the benefit of everyone else in the state. Cuomo then added a fine of $100,000 if hospitals didn't speed up vaccinations, as well as getting cut off from further supplies.

    Other notes about this thug's vaccination policies: he threw away the plans that had been developed over months at the last moment to using hospitals, plus some new types of clinics the state was going to develop from scratch to administer vaccines to the usual disadvantages suspects. But this is tied to a web reservation system that if you don't have any accounts already set up can take as many as 51 distinct steps, including uploading a copy of an ID. Needless to say lots of elderly are only getting through this gauntlet with the help of younger more computer literate family and friends.

    Although after getting a lot of bad press for the first time ever in the pandemic, he is easing some of these crazy policies.

    Replies: @El Dato

    Cuomo must be the one guy who is able to demonstrate live why the Soviet Union didn’t work and would have crashed much sooner with wokeness had been added to the mix.

    I actually suspect him of deliberately wrecking the whole place, for reason I cannot fathom. Maybe he hopes to usher in the Age of the Planet of the Apes sooner.

    Here is one about masks not working in hospitals and probably elsewhere:

    More than 3,000 patients a week, like poor old Captain Tom, are being infected with Covid while in hospital for other ailments

    To carry out this study, a ferret – it cannot be done, ethically, in humans – was first infected with Sars-CoV-2 [does that really work?]. It was then placed in a cage, connected to another one above it, containing a second ferret, via a duct with four 90-degree bends in to prevent all possible droplet spread. That’s what’s known as serpentine ductwork. In short, the only possible way the ferret above could be infected was via airborne spread.

    In repeated experiments, every single ferret in the upper cage became infected via airborne transmission through the serpentine ductwork. The study’s premise was ‘SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 are transmitted through the air between ferrets over more than one meter distance’.

    The implications of this, and the earlier work done on smallpox transmission, is the following: gloves, plastic aprons and loose-fitting masks can have no significant effect on the transmission of the virus. It is in the air, in very small aerosols. It will be breathed in, or get into people’s eyes, or land on their skin, where they will touch it, and then touch their mouths.

    Hospitals, containing a lot of people breathing out the virus, are where people will breathe it in and become infected. You cannot, in truth, stop it happening. Well, you could, but the level of protection required is far beyond any hospital setting or budget. The current figures demonstrating hospital transmission are not really a surprise. The only real surprise is that the rate of infection is not higher.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @El Dato

    To suggest NHS is able to uniformly obtain isolation levels necessary for COVID-19 patients is questionable, and it's also an issue of the quality of the staff in following asepsis procedures. All I can say is that some places in the US can pull this off, but this is a county with many more hospitals with ECMO beds than the total number of ECMO beds in all of the U.K., which were six at last count. One reason during the 2009 swine flu pandemic they had to fly a comatose pregnant woman to Sweden, which good results all around, although she was quite confused for a bit when she woke up in an alien place.

    Of course he's right loose fitting masks aren't a solid barrier, but no one with a clue has ever suggested they might do anything more than slow down transmission to manageable levels.

    Ferrets are a preferred animal model for respiratory viruses, although this is the first I've heard of them being used for COVID-19 but I'm not following the literature. No one denies airborne spread, but through very small aerosols unless I suppose you go to some trouble to create them is another matter. It would also be interesting to get some actual evidence on fomite spread, if it can really be effectively spread by touching something contaminated and then touching your eyes, nose, or maybe mouth. Don't know where research on that is, you should avoid that anyway to avoid "the common cold" including the flu and lots of other pathogens. Train yourself to never touch your face unless you've just washed your hands and in normal times you'll find you'll almost never get a cold.

  77. @Henry Canaday
    Washington DC prioritizes vaccine opportunities partly by ZIP code, i.e., race, and almost all vaccination stations are located in Northeast, i.e., black, DC. But to get an appointment you must play Beat The Clock on the vaccine website, or opportunities will close before you can get an appointment. Result: of my group of 15 vaccine recipients February 4, 14 were white and one was a very elderly black lady in a wheel chair with a caretaker.

    Vaccination process was very professional, with 10-minute orientation talk, form to ensure risks are minimized, then shot, then 15-miniute voluntary waiting period so staff can see if you keel over, and you can reserve second-shot appointment.

    Still, it’s a nine-to-five operation, with lunch hour off, on weekdays only, which seems a bit casual for what the Media-Democrat Party has been characterizing as the worst catastrophe of modern times.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @SunBakedSuburb, @Buffalo Joe

    “Vaccination process was very professional”

    Stadium mass-vaccination sites fit well with our current dystopia. Black lady leadership which won’t be guided by childish emotions at all will trigger systems collapse. In sixteen years only the soylent processing sites will be operating at full capacity. We will have been feeding the worms long before then so no worries.

  78. @Nodwink

    Globally, Israel and the United Arab Emirates have the highest rates. Britain — run by Boris Johnson, a populist Conservative — has vaccinated more than 15 percent of residents.
     
    These three nations have seen outbreaks of COVID, roughly coinciding with the beginning of large-scale vaccinations. Exactly why this is happening is still unknown, but this seeming incompetence may be a sign that these vaccinations are dangerous or ineffective, and authorities elsewhere are waiting for this to play out, with patients in Israel/UAE/UK basically being guinea pigs.

    Replies: @BlackishRedpill, @HA

    No, the truth is that the growing number of morons in all these countries think the existence of the vaccine means they can return to normal with no risk.

    • Agree: Philip Owen
    • Disagree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Nodwink
    @BlackishRedpill

    That's a definite possibility, which is why I didn't directly blame vaccines for the spike in cases. This outbreak is of a larger scale than any previous outbreak in Israel and the UK, though. Cases are trending downward, so it will be months before a proper assessment can be made.

  79. @anon
    https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1357870403868385281

    Replies: @El Dato, @Chrisnonymous, @TTSSYF, @SunBakedSuburb, @Old and Grumpy

    Navy SEALS are good crazy; transgenderism is sad crazy. And then there’s Anderson Cooper — bloodline scion, CIA-trained media figure. Sorry rationalists: reality laughs at your anti-conspiracy zealotry.

  80. @Hypnotoad666
    It's almost like the more government controls something, the more stupid and inefficient it is.

    Replies: @Mulga Mumblebrain, @Anonymous

    It’s almost like the more government controls something, the more stupid and inefficient it is.

    The UK NHS is a state health service and are doing a very good job of distributing the vaccines. Perhaps it is because their philosophy is universality rather than equity.

  81. Zvi is a famous Magic: the Gathering player and writer from way back who is famous for being better at theory than practice, but also usefully contrarian in most of the right ways.

  82. @Reg Cæsar
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    “Progressives would rather more minorities die of COVID, provided less whites get vaccinated.”
     
    Well, they did go to schools that no longer teach the difference between less and fewer. What do you expect?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Skeptikal

    Im not certain how objectionable that is given our current social security payout system and overpopulation in the cities.

    I imagine they think they will simply import more non whites, a kind of net win structurally.

  83. @Alt Right Moderate
    Is Boris a populist?

    Well sort of. Getting out of Europe is populist. Appointing a relatively conservative non-white immigration minister is populist lite. Stimulus measures are kinda populist when they are coming from the centre right. Lockdowns aren't really populist or elitist, since its more of a young versus old issue.

    Boris is pretty lucky in that he isn't up for election for another three years or so. Hence, unlike Trump, his fate isn't going to be sealed by his reaction or non-reaction to the Wuhan virus.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Sue D. Nim

    Boris caught the china virus severely and nearly died.

    It left him shell-shocked and ultra-cautious about ending lockdowns.

    He believes every ridiculous projection peddled by the modellers.

  84. There are going to be problems anyway you try and deliver the vaccine.

    My county in Florida ( Manatee ) has a online and telephone registration system. It isn’t ‘first come first serve” it is a random selection of whomever joins the registry thus Joe who signed up a month ago has no greater chance of being selected than Mary who signed up yesterday. Fair? I guess in a pigs eye but beyond that there is this. Manatee had 5100 doses to distribute this week. It is almost a statistical certainty that not all those with a vaccination appointment showed up and were vaccinated. Since the vaccine has a short shelf life what happens to the vaccine that was reserved for those who did not show up? Who knows.

    There is also bureaucratic pilfering of available supplies. The Manatee Public School system took 300 doses to vaccinate its over 65 employees who are mostly bus drivers and crossing guards. No waiting in line for public sector parasites.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @unit472


    Manatee had 5100 doses to distribute this week. It is almost a statistical certainty that not all those with a vaccination appointment showed up and were vaccinated. Since the vaccine has a short shelf life what happens to the vaccine that was reserved for those who did not show up? Who knows.
     
    It depends on the vaccine involved and how intelligently the vials are handled, in almost all cases there are fairly long windows:

    Pfizer/BioNTech thawed are good for 5 days, undiluted at room temperature 2 hours. After dilution are good for 6 hours, you get 5-6 doses per vial. Moderna, thawed are good for 30 days, at "room temperature" are good for 12 hours, after punctured for the first dose are good for 6 hours for the remaining 9 doses.

    So you have to avoid things like bringing up too many Moderna vials to room temperatur without knowing you'll use them, but you're told you can leave them out of the fridge for as little as 15 minutes before starting to use them so that shouldn't be a problem. Pfizer/BioNTech isn't majorly different except you've got a shorter room temperature window prior to dilution, and you must do that dilution step. The only legitimate specific cases I've heard of for waste are mistakes made in projected demand before going to some facility to vaccinate a lot of people, and getting caught in a snowstorm and not being convincing enough to get more than 5 also trapped drivers to take the vaccine, despite having a doctor and ambulance handy just in case, the latter happening in Oregon.
  85. @Wilkey
    You have to look at it this way: on the upside for Democrats, the longer this shit goes on, the more time they can spend “not letting a good crisis go to waste.”

    Also, they may think that the more psychological and economic damage the lockdowns inflict on society the more government programs we will demand to ameliorate the problems that are caused.

    Of course the downside to all that is that people are really getting tired of this shit. The midterms could be brutal for them.

    Replies: @Thoughts, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Of course the downside to all that is that people are really getting tired of this shit.

    Are you sure?

    The UMC AWFL/SWPL Karen-crowd seem to absolutely love, love, love lockdown because they can just have everything delivered via Instacart, Amazon Prime, and Netflix.

  86. @Hypnotoad666
    @Mulga Mumblebrain


    Not in China it ain’t.
     
    You must have just finished reading the NYTs latest fluff peace about how smart and wonderful our future overlords are. https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/world/asia/china-covid-economy.html

    The Chinese government is stupid and inefficient also. But their citizens aren't allowed to point it out. And the NYT is basically their paid PR agent in this country.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    And the NYT is basically their paid PR agent in this country.

    One of hundreds, possibly thousands, along with all the true believers and useful idiots.

  87. @Herp McDerp
    @Thoughts

    Wokeness is incompetent people spewing words to cover up their incompetence.

    That's pretty much the definition of Critical Theory: There is no objective reality, the world is defined by narratives and power relations. You can even survive using that principle as long as you are the one who is controlling other people through the exercise of power ... and as long as objective reality doesn't get in the way.

    But an edict won't hold up a bridge built by incompetents.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    But an edict won’t hold up a bridge built by incompetents.

    If only the battle against wokeness could be fought on the field of merit and competence. Wokeness has no objective merit. Unfortunately, it is like a parasite that spreads by infiltrating competent organizations and feeding off the wealth and influence that was created by others.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hypnotoad666

    You mean like the rackets ?

    Corruption takes many forms. How exactly did the Clintons Obamas and Bidens all enrich themselves to 20-80 mm US$ net worth within 3 years after leaving elective office ? Theyd never held any jobs with that sort of enormous remuneration certainly. Not from wealthy parents.

    Biden has returned some 20mm $US to the better, and seems to have staffed his high level administration with the very people who financed his campaign and his personal wealth.

  88. @Nodwink

    Globally, Israel and the United Arab Emirates have the highest rates. Britain — run by Boris Johnson, a populist Conservative — has vaccinated more than 15 percent of residents.
     
    These three nations have seen outbreaks of COVID, roughly coinciding with the beginning of large-scale vaccinations. Exactly why this is happening is still unknown, but this seeming incompetence may be a sign that these vaccinations are dangerous or ineffective, and authorities elsewhere are waiting for this to play out, with patients in Israel/UAE/UK basically being guinea pigs.

    Replies: @BlackishRedpill, @HA

    “Exactly why this is happening is still unknown, but this seeming incompetence may be a sign that these vaccinations are dangerous or ineffective,… authorities elsewhere are waiting for this to play out, with patients in Israel/UAE/UK basically being guinea pigs.”

    Yeah, I hear you — what a bunch of naïve guinea pigs those Israelis are! Always willing to sacrifice their own self-interest so as to serve as the sacrificial lamb for the benefit of the rest of the world. How these people managed to survive as long as they have is simply beyond me.

    [MORE]

    From the FT:

    Hospital admissions of those aged 60 and above [in Israel] have already dropped 34 per cent below mid-January levels, while admissions among younger adults had remained flat and are now slightly higher than they were three weeks ago.

    Similar patterns are apparent in both moderate and severe hospital cases, suggesting that the vaccine is protecting against not only mild illness but also severe disease.

    Vaccine makers including BioNTech/Pfizer have created their products primarily to prevent disease in people infected with coronavirus. But preliminary evidence suggests the vaccines also reduce transmission of the virus. [though a definite answer for that will take months]

    When cases first began to fall in Israel in the second half of January, it was initially unclear whether the cause was the vaccine or the national lockdown, but as more data has come through, more and more evidence points to the role of inoculations….

    Israel’s national-level figures were published on the same day as new data from Maccabi Healthcare Services, one of the largest healthcare providers in the country, which showed that a week after receiving the second dose of the Pfizer vaccine, only 254 people out of 416,900 had been infected with Covid-19.

    Maccabi reported that all 254 infected patients suffered only mild symptoms, and only four of them were hospitalised in moderate condition. This compared to an unvaccinated control group where 12,944 out of 778,000 tested positive for coronavirus. [i.e. 0.061% vs. 1.6%, so more than a 25-fold differential]…

    “Additionally, our data has proven that those patients who do contract the Covid-19 virus post vaccination have a milder course of disease.” [as is the case with the flu vaccine]

    And yet, Alex Berenson is really unhappy about this for some strange reason./a> And from this blog that Scott Alexander says is the best thing going when it comes to COVID:

    The vaccine data is in. It’s pretty great…We now have six known safe and effective Covid-19 vaccines: Pfizer, Moderna, AstraZeneca, Novavax, Johnson & Johnson and Sputnik.

    Pfizer and Moderna are amazingly safe and effective. They have been approved and are being distributed. The problem is that due to our unwillingness to properly fund the process of scaling up, we are stalling out at about 1.3 million doses per day…s

  89. @Buzz Mohawk
    For once, I truly do believe Diversity is Strength.

    I love watching how Diversity is now creating these conflicts.

    Whether it is Global Warming™, Climate Change™, or now the multiple, rushed, DNA-realted, non-vaccines...


    ... which are not at all understood in the slightest by the faithful public who line up like communion church-goers to receive them...

    I love how Steve's "Coalition of the Fringes" is jamming a few wrenches in the works.

    Hey! Maybe our American founders' ideas are still working! Maybe this is still the process of mass mess that leads to a Hegelian aufhebung that is best for everything! Maybe??? Does this even occur to anyone else reading here?

    Many of us remember that just letting this stupid virus run its course would have by now resulted in some kind of "herd immunity" by now. (Ooh, I know that's becoming a dirty term.)

    Replies: @JerseyJeffersonian, @Bert

    Many of us remember that just letting this stupid virus run its course would have by now resulted in some kind of “herd immunity” by now. (Ooh, I know that’s becoming a dirty term.)

    In March last year, I advocated the herd immunity approach, even to the extent of writing a fairly detailed plan and sending it to 7 of the 14 Republican senators who are physicians. However, such an approach does not solve the problem for everyone, nor apparently would it have gotten us to herd immunity yet (barring infection parties). There is a large number of the late-middle-aged, elderly, and those who are immunocompromised in which considerable mortality and life-affecting morbidity will occur. The only systematic way to protect them is with a vaccine. Even if very early treatment with repurposed drugs were used to treat future Covid infections in the vulnerable, the delivery of medical care, at least for the vulnerable not in assisted living facilities, might often be too inefficient (slow) to avoid substantial Covid mortality because anti-viral drugs must be given at symptom onset to work at high efficacy.

    The paper linked below posits that the other human coronaviruses that are endemic cause almost no mortality because in children they naturally almost never result in severe disease (unlike MERS), and childhood infection primes the immune system to limit infections later in life to the symptomatic level of bad colds. The future of SARS-2 over the next decades is probably to become just another cause of colds, as sequential cohorts of children are naturally infected.

    Immunological characteristics govern the transition of COVID-19 to endemicity
    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2021/01/11/science.abe6522

    A more serious society than ours could have protected the vulnerable by draconian restrictions on their socializing, as well as strict measures to keep SARS-2 out of nursing homes. Then everyone else could have kept the economy normal while vaccines were developed. But of course ours is not a serious society; AARP would have filed a class action suit opposing a lockdown applicable only to the vulnerable, and the suit would have been supported by a quite a lot of those elders now deceased from Covid.

    Or an attempt to protect the elderly with repurposed drugs during the wait for vaccines could have been made, but that was thwarted by a powerful 80-year old, whom no serious country would have allowed to pursue such an agenda.

  90. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hypnotoad666
    @Herp McDerp


    But an edict won’t hold up a bridge built by incompetents.
     
    If only the battle against wokeness could be fought on the field of merit and competence. Wokeness has no objective merit. Unfortunately, it is like a parasite that spreads by infiltrating competent organizations and feeding off the wealth and influence that was created by others.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    You mean like the rackets ?

    Corruption takes many forms. How exactly did the Clintons Obamas and Bidens all enrich themselves to 20-80 mm US$ net worth within 3 years after leaving elective office ? Theyd never held any jobs with that sort of enormous remuneration certainly. Not from wealthy parents.

    Biden has returned some 20mm $US to the better, and seems to have staffed his high level administration with the very people who financed his campaign and his personal wealth.

  91. @donut
    This is a horrific video from 1929 : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2JsubL1Xv0

    A vaccine had been developed in 1885 but a modern vaccine wasn't introduced until the 1980's .
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabies_vaccine

    There are 59,000 deaths world wide 1-3 cases annually in the US . India has the highest number of deaths with 20,000 annually and the majority of the remainder are in Asia .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAUBGRpyq2c

    Both the videos are equally horrifying , the children are terrified but have no idea what's in store for them within a matter of a few hours . The man in India is fully aware of his fate and the hellish suffering he will endure .

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @Anonymous

    Now you know why they *all* want to run into and takeover the west.

  92. When, as here, the Times publishes an article decrying lack of access to something deemed good, the default assumption ought to be that the Sulzbergers and their employees have concluded that (((their only true constituency))) isn’t getting its fair share—namely, the lion’s share—of what’s on offer.

    Since the vaccines are a poisonous, DNA-altering solution to a problem that intelligent, informed people have understood for a year to be a hoax, the Times‘s complaints should be heeded. Let those who are leading the campaign to breed white people out of existence and do to Christians what their ancestors did to Christ get preferential and unfettered access to the vaccines! What’s so bad about letting someone who is trying to kill you shoot himself in the foot?

  93. @The Alarmist
    @Sapient Idiot


    If cloth condoms were used HIV would have been eliminated. Cloth masks are just that good.
     
    Mask, double mask, triple mask ... one “expert” suggested four masks would be even better. I’d like all these public-health “experts” to start using duct tape to cover their own orifices ... for our protection.

    Replies: @Tetra

    I believe that the multiple mask statements are a propaganda tool intended to shift discussion to mask vs. multiple masks instead of mask vs. no mask. As a bonus it counters effectiveness arguments of no mask proponents by acknowledging the lack of effectiveness of one mask while still pushing masks as a solution only now you need many masks.

  94. @That Would Be Telling
    @Henry Canaday


    Still, [D.C.'s is] a nine-to-five operation, with lunch hour off, on weekdays only, which seems a bit casual for what the Media-Democrat Party has been characterizing as the worst catastrophe of modern times.
     
    As long as demand for vaccines massively exceeds supplies, there's no point to go all Maximum Effort on the process. And even if Janssen's single jab gets an EUA from the FDA this month, the company reported they were going to miss their through this month promise of supplying 12 million doses, although I don't recall anything about by how much. I suspect it's a tiny bit like the production problems the new technology mRNA vaccine companies are wrangling with, Janssen has never tried to make millions of doses using their virus vector platform, only thousands for their successful European Phase III trial of it being used for an Ebola vaccine (it wasn't the one used so successfully in the most recent outbreak).

    Replies: @Henry Canaday

    Thanks, good point if critical path is vaccine availability. DC seems to be working though top vaccine priorities with a weekly allocation of vaccines available. 12-hour days would just get each week’s recipients through the process a little faster.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Henry Canaday


    Thanks, good point if critical path is vaccine availability. DC seems to be working though top vaccine priorities with a weekly allocation of vaccines available. 12-hour days would just get each week’s recipients through the process a little faster.
     
    You're welcome. And if people are thinking ahead, maintaining reserves in money, that is no overtime now, and people not exhausting themselves now makes a lot of sense, while everyone gets drilled through constant but unhurried repetition in all the paperwork and technical/medical steps.

    Or at least that's how I'd try to arrange things to be well positioned for Maximum Efforts whenever vaccines or batches of them become abundant, which we expect sooner or later, as kinks are worked out in mRNA's novel production. Or just plain more capacity is added as more of the microfluidics devices that combine mRNA with protective lipids get build and put into operation, rumor has it only one company in the world is capable of making those widgets.

    And sooner or later we should have 3-4 more types available, Janssen 1 or 2 jabs, the first of those now with an application made to the FDA, AZ/Oxford, both of those viral vector, and Novavax, protein plus adjuvant using old technology (well, 15+ years old, see Protein Sciences), which has reported excellent results from the U.K. and like Janssen likely revealing results from South Africa (the dominate strain there isn't as effectively protected against, but the vaccines are still quite useful).
  95. “Scott says the best blogger on Covid is some guy named Zvi Mowshowitz, who, not surprisingly, turns out to be pretty good.”

    A quick glance shows him to be a very thorough chronicler of the conventional wisdom. In other words, pretty useless.

    • Thanks: Pierre de Craon
  96. @SF
    @Barack Obama's secret Unz account

    They are offering them. Don't have time right now to look it up but there was a story in main stream media about a middle aged white couple who went to a public vaccination event and stayed until end of day, when the pharmacist announced they had eight left over for stand by people. The story was ambivalent as to whether this was morally correct.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    I hope those doctors are just saying they’ve thrown out the vaccines, and are secretly offering off-the-books vaccinations to those as wants them

    They are offering them. Don’t have time right now to look it up but there was a story in main stream media about a middle aged white couple who went to a public vaccination event and stayed until end of day, when the pharmacist announced they had eight left over for stand by people. The story was ambivalent as to whether this was morally correct.

    Off the books would still need to be in someone’s books for the followup booster dose, and New York’s penalties are too high for most to want to risk.

    But outside that Communist state as an alternative to throwing them away anyone sane says use then, even if you’re not sure they’re still good or if you’ll be able to give a second dose at the prescribed time. Based on this principle some 50+ doses of unknown quality in the second batch that were deliberately left outside the fridge by that anti-vaxxer pharmacist were given to patients in the hospital on the solid theory they might do some good, and would almost certainly cause no harm. Ah, and they might have contacted Moderna for an opinion, the company says contact them first before throwing away bottles that have been shaken.

  97. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/SlaughterAM/status/1357422898626105344

    Replies: @Justvisiting

    Virtue signaling is a great way to get your potential adversaries to turn into hostile enemies–the gang in DC is gonna have to learn that lesson the hard way.

  98. @anon
    https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1357870403868385281

    Replies: @El Dato, @Chrisnonymous, @TTSSYF, @SunBakedSuburb, @Old and Grumpy

    Dear Navy Seal, you still look like a man.

  99. @El Dato
    @That Would Be Telling

    Cuomo must be the one guy who is able to demonstrate live why the Soviet Union didn't work and would have crashed much sooner with wokeness had been added to the mix.

    I actually suspect him of deliberately wrecking the whole place, for reason I cannot fathom. Maybe he hopes to usher in the Age of the Planet of the Apes sooner.

    Here is one about masks not working in hospitals and probably elsewhere:

    More than 3,000 patients a week, like poor old Captain Tom, are being infected with Covid while in hospital for other ailments


    To carry out this study, a ferret – it cannot be done, ethically, in humans – was first infected with Sars-CoV-2 [does that really work?]. It was then placed in a cage, connected to another one above it, containing a second ferret, via a duct with four 90-degree bends in to prevent all possible droplet spread. That’s what’s known as serpentine ductwork. In short, the only possible way the ferret above could be infected was via airborne spread.

    In repeated experiments, every single ferret in the upper cage became infected via airborne transmission through the serpentine ductwork. The study’s premise was ‘SARS-CoV and SARS-CoV-2 are transmitted through the air between ferrets over more than one meter distance’.

    The implications of this, and the earlier work done on smallpox transmission, is the following: gloves, plastic aprons and loose-fitting masks can have no significant effect on the transmission of the virus. It is in the air, in very small aerosols. It will be breathed in, or get into people’s eyes, or land on their skin, where they will touch it, and then touch their mouths.

    Hospitals, containing a lot of people breathing out the virus, are where people will breathe it in and become infected. You cannot, in truth, stop it happening. Well, you could, but the level of protection required is far beyond any hospital setting or budget. The current figures demonstrating hospital transmission are not really a surprise. The only real surprise is that the rate of infection is not higher.
     

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    To suggest NHS is able to uniformly obtain isolation levels necessary for COVID-19 patients is questionable, and it’s also an issue of the quality of the staff in following asepsis procedures. All I can say is that some places in the US can pull this off, but this is a county with many more hospitals with ECMO beds than the total number of ECMO beds in all of the U.K., which were six at last count. One reason during the 2009 swine flu pandemic they had to fly a comatose pregnant woman to Sweden, which good results all around, although she was quite confused for a bit when she woke up in an alien place.

    Of course he’s right loose fitting masks aren’t a solid barrier, but no one with a clue has ever suggested they might do anything more than slow down transmission to manageable levels.

    Ferrets are a preferred animal model for respiratory viruses, although this is the first I’ve heard of them being used for COVID-19 but I’m not following the literature. No one denies airborne spread, but through very small aerosols unless I suppose you go to some trouble to create them is another matter. It would also be interesting to get some actual evidence on fomite spread, if it can really be effectively spread by touching something contaminated and then touching your eyes, nose, or maybe mouth. Don’t know where research on that is, you should avoid that anyway to avoid “the common cold” including the flu and lots of other pathogens. Train yourself to never touch your face unless you’ve just washed your hands and in normal times you’ll find you’ll almost never get a cold.

  100. I remember when the left actually didn’t believe their figurative bull feces. They just wanted power. Now they want both. Could this new found religious like zeal a good development for us in the long run?

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Old and Grumpy


    I remember when the left actually didn’t believe their figurative bull feces. They just wanted power. Now they want both. Could this new found religious like zeal a good development for us in the long run?
     
    Leftist holiness spirals have killed people by the tens of thousands and millions since the modern Left first took form in the French Revolution. So long term, maybe, but surviving the medium term might be dicey.
  101. All things considered, Boris is a populist and – remarkably – a success.

    On a basic poll – “which party would you vote for if an election was held today?” the conservatives get in the 40-43% range. In a 4 or 5 party system will only a bare plurality needed to win seats (no run offs no preferences) it is a very strong result. It is worth remembering that from about 1994 to 2006 the conservative number did not really approach this, due to Blair.

    He also has a populist style in such a way to be acceptable in the UK. At the election in 2019 the test was clear: regardless of my preconceptions, could a share a pint with this man in the local pub? The comparison with Corbyn was stark.

  102. @obwandiyag
    Cuba, little Cuba, little communist Cuba, has a good, effective vaccine ready.

    The US and the EU are clowns.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    obi, Yes Cuba is the Medical Science capital of the world…THE WORLD. That’s why socialist leaders from around the world head to The Cleveland Clinic and the MAYO clinic in Minnesota or Sloan-Kettering in NYC.

    • Agree: lavoisier
    • Replies: @obwandiyag
    @Buffalo Joe

    What are you? An idiot or an idiot?

    , @Another Canadian
    @Buffalo Joe

    Hey Joe, I took your advice and rang the Mayo Clinic and got this guy:
    https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-PTNPuNdx8e0/UNIQYOs9qiI/AAAAAAAAWGw/8F6kO4bgoK0/s1600/4xHe0.jpg

  103. @unit472
    There are going to be problems anyway you try and deliver the vaccine.

    My county in Florida ( Manatee ) has a online and telephone registration system. It isn't 'first come first serve" it is a random selection of whomever joins the registry thus Joe who signed up a month ago has no greater chance of being selected than Mary who signed up yesterday. Fair? I guess in a pigs eye but beyond that there is this. Manatee had 5100 doses to distribute this week. It is almost a statistical certainty that not all those with a vaccination appointment showed up and were vaccinated. Since the vaccine has a short shelf life what happens to the vaccine that was reserved for those who did not show up? Who knows.

    There is also bureaucratic pilfering of available supplies. The Manatee Public School system took 300 doses to vaccinate its over 65 employees who are mostly bus drivers and crossing guards. No waiting in line for public sector parasites.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Manatee had 5100 doses to distribute this week. It is almost a statistical certainty that not all those with a vaccination appointment showed up and were vaccinated. Since the vaccine has a short shelf life what happens to the vaccine that was reserved for those who did not show up? Who knows.

    It depends on the vaccine involved and how intelligently the vials are handled, in almost all cases there are fairly long windows:

    Pfizer/BioNTech thawed are good for 5 days, undiluted at room temperature 2 hours. After dilution are good for 6 hours, you get 5-6 doses per vial. Moderna, thawed are good for 30 days, at “room temperature” are good for 12 hours, after punctured for the first dose are good for 6 hours for the remaining 9 doses.

    So you have to avoid things like bringing up too many Moderna vials to room temperatur without knowing you’ll use them, but you’re told you can leave them out of the fridge for as little as 15 minutes before starting to use them so that shouldn’t be a problem. Pfizer/BioNTech isn’t majorly different except you’ve got a shorter room temperature window prior to dilution, and you must do that dilution step. The only legitimate specific cases I’ve heard of for waste are mistakes made in projected demand before going to some facility to vaccinate a lot of people, and getting caught in a snowstorm and not being convincing enough to get more than 5 also trapped drivers to take the vaccine, despite having a doctor and ambulance handy just in case, the latter happening in Oregon.

  104. @Old and Grumpy
    I remember when the left actually didn't believe their figurative bull feces. They just wanted power. Now they want both. Could this new found religious like zeal a good development for us in the long run?

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    I remember when the left actually didn’t believe their figurative bull feces. They just wanted power. Now they want both. Could this new found religious like zeal a good development for us in the long run?

    Leftist holiness spirals have killed people by the tens of thousands and millions since the modern Left first took form in the French Revolution. So long term, maybe, but surviving the medium term might be dicey.

  105. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @notsaying

    "The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the [diaper] wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees."

    Good. This needs to happen A LOT.

    Even better: smash every diaperface upside the head, knock them out, and tattoo a diaper on their face they can never remove.

    Imbeciles need to fear wearing diapers in public.

    Replies: @Space Ghost, @Corvinus, @Freedom Awaits

    Nice fedposting. You’re glowing a bit hard right now though.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Space Ghost

    Glowies tend to suddenly appear out of nowhere. Je Suis has a long history of supple, stylish prose.

    I'm not quite as overtly fed up as Je Suis, but another commenter very aptly used the words "preposterous" and "tyranny" to describe the events of 2020/21.

    The way I'd put it, you are being lied to every day about every thing, morning, noon and night -- and you know you're being lied to. So why would you turn around and think, "Oh, but when it comes to COVID I'm sure they'd put my well being first and foremost and certainly would never lie about something like this." A little skepticism can be a useful immune response.

  106. @Henry Canaday
    @That Would Be Telling

    Thanks, good point if critical path is vaccine availability. DC seems to be working though top vaccine priorities with a weekly allocation of vaccines available. 12-hour days would just get each week's recipients through the process a little faster.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Thanks, good point if critical path is vaccine availability. DC seems to be working though top vaccine priorities with a weekly allocation of vaccines available. 12-hour days would just get each week’s recipients through the process a little faster.

    You’re welcome. And if people are thinking ahead, maintaining reserves in money, that is no overtime now, and people not exhausting themselves now makes a lot of sense, while everyone gets drilled through constant but unhurried repetition in all the paperwork and technical/medical steps.

    Or at least that’s how I’d try to arrange things to be well positioned for Maximum Efforts whenever vaccines or batches of them become abundant, which we expect sooner or later, as kinks are worked out in mRNA’s novel production. Or just plain more capacity is added as more of the microfluidics devices that combine mRNA with protective lipids get build and put into operation, rumor has it only one company in the world is capable of making those widgets.

    And sooner or later we should have 3-4 more types available, Janssen 1 or 2 jabs, the first of those now with an application made to the FDA, AZ/Oxford, both of those viral vector, and Novavax, protein plus adjuvant using old technology (well, 15+ years old, see Protein Sciences), which has reported excellent results from the U.K. and like Janssen likely revealing results from South Africa (the dominate strain there isn’t as effectively protected against, but the vaccines are still quite useful).

  107. @Henry Canaday
    Washington DC prioritizes vaccine opportunities partly by ZIP code, i.e., race, and almost all vaccination stations are located in Northeast, i.e., black, DC. But to get an appointment you must play Beat The Clock on the vaccine website, or opportunities will close before you can get an appointment. Result: of my group of 15 vaccine recipients February 4, 14 were white and one was a very elderly black lady in a wheel chair with a caretaker.

    Vaccination process was very professional, with 10-minute orientation talk, form to ensure risks are minimized, then shot, then 15-miniute voluntary waiting period so staff can see if you keel over, and you can reserve second-shot appointment.

    Still, it’s a nine-to-five operation, with lunch hour off, on weekdays only, which seems a bit casual for what the Media-Democrat Party has been characterizing as the worst catastrophe of modern times.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling, @SunBakedSuburb, @Buffalo Joe

    Henry, two weeks ago I finally got through to the NYS call center and they gave me an appt on March 13th, which meant I only had to wait two full months. Still trying all the pharmacy websites but no luck. A local black Baptist Church managed to secure 350 shots for their parishoners, hmmm. There are politics galore in NYS’ roll out.

  108. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Elmer T. Jones

    "More like face panties. And women seem to like them, perhaps because it gives them a sense of allure their naked mugs don’t."

    No. Women (and faggots) are sexually aroused by submission - so they love demeaning and humiliating themselves with the cuckdiaper of shame. It makes them wet - and makes faggots get an erection.

    The public facediaper is a sexual fetish.

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @Known Fact

    No. Women (and faggots) are sexually aroused by submission – so they love demeaning and humiliating themselves with the cuckdiaper of shame. It makes them wet – and makes faggots get an erection.

    You are disturbingly well informed about this Mateen. Hope you didn’t have to do too much field research to get these findings.

  109. @Buffalo Joe
    @obwandiyag

    obi, Yes Cuba is the Medical Science capital of the world...THE WORLD. That's why socialist leaders from around the world head to The Cleveland Clinic and the MAYO clinic in Minnesota or Sloan-Kettering in NYC.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Another Canadian

    What are you? An idiot or an idiot?

  110. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    It's a gene jab, not a vaccine. You'll diaper up and assburger-distance for the rest of your life. No, you won't dance with your wife sans facediaper come Valentine's Day 2021 - or 2025 or 2052 - regardless of Sailer's embarrassing and sentimental chemotherapy-fueled post viz this subject some weeks ago. The Democratic sociopaths cum vigorously in their panties every time you diaper up.

    Twice today I entered stores sans diaper, both times I left with goods in hand sans harassment from store employees. This is a hoax and a medical coding fraud - you know that, right?

    Replies: @notsaying, @Elmer T. Jones, @Sapient Idiot, @TTSSYF, @Midwit, @dvorak

    Anyone who believes Covid is a hoax at this point has let their seething hatred of the left consume and rot their brains. In other words brain damage.

    And so I say, begone, midwit.

  111. Evidently Deloitte “stole” the vaccine program from a black queen.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Ed

    Sistahs are known for their software development prowess. If I wanted a vaccine tracking program I would definitely call Tiffany and not Deloitte with its global network of 330,000 employees.

  112. @Ed
    Evidently Deloitte "stole" the vaccine program from a black queen.

    https://twitter.com/oni_blackstock/status/1358186993348464641

    Replies: @Jack D

    Sistahs are known for their software development prowess. If I wanted a vaccine tracking program I would definitely call Tiffany and not Deloitte with its global network of 330,000 employees.

  113. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    It's a gene jab, not a vaccine. You'll diaper up and assburger-distance for the rest of your life. No, you won't dance with your wife sans facediaper come Valentine's Day 2021 - or 2025 or 2052 - regardless of Sailer's embarrassing and sentimental chemotherapy-fueled post viz this subject some weeks ago. The Democratic sociopaths cum vigorously in their panties every time you diaper up.

    Twice today I entered stores sans diaper, both times I left with goods in hand sans harassment from store employees. This is a hoax and a medical coding fraud - you know that, right?

    Replies: @notsaying, @Elmer T. Jones, @Sapient Idiot, @TTSSYF, @Midwit, @dvorak

    I entered stores sans diaper

    80% of people, including you, look better with a mask on. For the same reason they look better clothed.

    If you wear a mask, I can imagine that you have a strong chin and an attractive nose.

  114. @BlackishRedpill
    @Nodwink

    No, the truth is that the growing number of morons in all these countries think the existence of the vaccine means they can return to normal with no risk.

    Replies: @Nodwink

    That’s a definite possibility, which is why I didn’t directly blame vaccines for the spike in cases. This outbreak is of a larger scale than any previous outbreak in Israel and the UK, though. Cases are trending downward, so it will be months before a proper assessment can be made.

  115. @Reg Cæsar
    @NJ Transit Commuter


    “Progressives would rather more minorities die of COVID, provided less whites get vaccinated.”
     
    Well, they did go to schools that no longer teach the difference between less and fewer. What do you expect?

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Skeptikal

    Make that

    “. . . provided that fewer whites get vaccinated.”

  116. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @notsaying

    "The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the [diaper] wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees."

    Good. This needs to happen A LOT.

    Even better: smash every diaperface upside the head, knock them out, and tattoo a diaper on their face they can never remove.

    Imbeciles need to fear wearing diapers in public.

    Replies: @Space Ghost, @Corvinus, @Freedom Awaits

    Comment–“The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the [diaper] wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.”

    You–Good. This needs to happen A LOT.

    So murdering innocent people solves the problem? Your comment only confirms you are a feral, vile creature.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Corvinus

    So Je Suis OM is "vile?" Hmmmm .... That Would Be Telling called me "vile" once recently. A quick AI content analysis might suggest you and TWBT are indeed one and the same person. (Though as Corvinus you're a bit less prolix at least)

    Confess, the one/two of you!

  117. @Buffalo Joe
    @obwandiyag

    obi, Yes Cuba is the Medical Science capital of the world...THE WORLD. That's why socialist leaders from around the world head to The Cleveland Clinic and the MAYO clinic in Minnesota or Sloan-Kettering in NYC.

    Replies: @obwandiyag, @Another Canadian

    Hey Joe, I took your advice and rang the Mayo Clinic and got this guy:

  118. @anon
    It's clear that the experts used the time during which the vaccine was being developed...months and months...arguing about what they found a delectable problem, distributing a new product in high demand under conditions of shortage. When better to go on record as pro black/equity. And maybe even in attributed publications.

    I hope they are sufficiently on record that they get full credit for the fiasco, chaos, and inefficiency. I, for one, will never forget that they were fine with white males dying.

    Even more enraging is that their pets could care less and are "vaccine hesitant". And the entire public health scheme is relying on those same white people to line up and follow rules.

    And fortunately, the Biden rollout is angering people, but it is more effective than it looks. Demand is now so high that for the last month, vaccines given more or less equal vaccine distributed. And in a month, most of the 1B's that want it will have it.

    Part of this is that it is being rolled out to retail pharmacies, who will get shots into arms in a practical fashion. Moderate attention to process with emphasis on getting bodies out the door.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Plus if you get the shot at your local Walgreens or Rite-Aid you can picks up some cigs and Pringles on the way out

  119. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Elmer T. Jones

    "More like face panties. And women seem to like them, perhaps because it gives them a sense of allure their naked mugs don’t."

    No. Women (and faggots) are sexually aroused by submission - so they love demeaning and humiliating themselves with the cuckdiaper of shame. It makes them wet - and makes faggots get an erection.

    The public facediaper is a sexual fetish.

    Replies: @AKAHorace, @Known Fact

    Women love demeaning and humiliating themselves with the cuckdiaper of shame… The public facediaper is a sexual fetish.

    It’s Karen Nation now and women do seem to enjoy masking up. But if we’re going to throw around psycho-sexual theories we are duty-bound to include “Perhaps it’s a way to somehow reclaim their lost innocence and virginity.”

  120. @Corvinus
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Comment--“The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the [diaper] wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees.”

    You--Good. This needs to happen A LOT.

    So murdering innocent people solves the problem? Your comment only confirms you are a feral, vile creature.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    So Je Suis OM is “vile?” Hmmmm …. That Would Be Telling called me “vile” once recently. A quick AI content analysis might suggest you and TWBT are indeed one and the same person. (Though as Corvinus you’re a bit less prolix at least)

    Confess, the one/two of you!

  121. @Space Ghost
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Nice fedposting. You're glowing a bit hard right now though.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    Glowies tend to suddenly appear out of nowhere. Je Suis has a long history of supple, stylish prose.

    I’m not quite as overtly fed up as Je Suis, but another commenter very aptly used the words “preposterous” and “tyranny” to describe the events of 2020/21.

    The way I’d put it, you are being lied to every day about every thing, morning, noon and night — and you know you’re being lied to. So why would you turn around and think, “Oh, but when it comes to COVID I’m sure they’d put my well being first and foremost and certainly would never lie about something like this.” A little skepticism can be a useful immune response.

  122. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @notsaying

    "The people in the stores are afraid to enforce the [diaper] wearing rules because customers have shot and killed employees."

    Good. This needs to happen A LOT.

    Even better: smash every diaperface upside the head, knock them out, and tattoo a diaper on their face they can never remove.

    Imbeciles need to fear wearing diapers in public.

    Replies: @Space Ghost, @Corvinus, @Freedom Awaits

    BY FAR the best covid related comment I have read here. We have become a nation of cowards terrified of any confrontation and even more terrified at being called a name. The “public” school system has gone above and beyond in terms of keeping the population ignorant and careless about reality. The majority of folks would snitch on their mother before standing up for her. Pathetic!

  123. @TTSSYF
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    I don't doubt that the virus is real. It's the reaction to it that's been utterly insane and little more than a opportunistic power grab by sociopathic 'rats who have no allegiance to the U.S.

    Replies: @James Forrestal

    I don’t doubt that the virus is real. It’s the reaction to it that’s been utterly insane and little more than a opportunistic power grab by sociopathic ‘rats who have no allegiance to the U.S.

    As dual citizen IDF veteran, notorious semitic supremacist, and former Clinton/ Obama handler Rahm Emanuel once said:

    “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste”

    Oh wait — he said it again (12:18):

    https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/hit-rewind-button-real-life-gov-chris-christie-69737416

    Referring to the Rona, of course.

    How they can weaponize problems in the real world by incorporating them into a narrative that helps to implement their existing goals will always take priority over serious attempts to actually solve those problems.

  124. @Anonymous
    Barely one month after the UK formally left the EU, Brexit has been vindicated in the shape of the successful UK roll out of the Covid vaccine, compared with the shambolic floundering of the EU, therefore giving the lie to the oft made assertion of UK euro enthusiasts of the EU's superiority regarding the UK. Fate has worked out in totally unexpected ways.
    This affair - whose import cannot be underestimated - has basically destroyed the EU's credibility for good in the UK, and amongst many continental Europeans, even amongst those previously well disposed toward it.

    A big and unequivocal win for Boris Johnson.

    Replies: @Philip Owen

    “has basically destroyed the EU’s credibility for good in the UK”. Delusional.

    We are being given a vaccine in a rush that works with a 3 weeks spacing. We bought the first batch hurriedly prior to full Brexit. We have no means of delivering the booster jab on time. Boris has even dragged out Rent an Epidemiologist to paint over the cracks by saying 12 weeks might be OK. The whole affair will be erased because we are not going back to normal. SARS2-CoV-19 is forever. There hasn’t been a triumph and there won’t be.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Philip Owen


    We [in the U.K.] are being given a vaccine in a rush that works with a 3 weeks spacing. We bought the first batch hurriedly prior to full Brexit. We have no means of delivering the booster jab on time. Boris has even dragged out Rent an Epidemiologist to paint over the cracks by saying 12 weeks might be OK.
     
    One of your vaccine options, AZ/Oxford's was initially Phase III tested with three weeks spacing, which sure looks like an error on the part of Oxford's in its Phase I/II test, and there's good theory and now some claimed data that twelve weeks is going to produce better long term results from that one vaccine.

    Spacing our the intervals for the mRNA vaccines has not been tested at all at the Phase III level, the manufacturers are not supporting the concept for obvious reasons, but the theory of getting partial protection in the largest number of people as fast as possible is sane from a public health standpoint. As far as I know it's based on meager vaccine supplies like everyone else is facing, not an inability to provide the second jab at the normal interval. This has been extensively discussed in some recent Unz.com James Thompson topics which do a better job of explaining the public health experiment the U.K. is running. I'd say it's low to medium risk, with a very high potential payoff. Will be an even better decision if V2.0 vaccines are needed because of the South African variant, or one that better escapes existing V1.0 vaccines.
  125. @Philip Owen
    @Anonymous

    "has basically destroyed the EU’s credibility for good in the UK". Delusional.

    We are being given a vaccine in a rush that works with a 3 weeks spacing. We bought the first batch hurriedly prior to full Brexit. We have no means of delivering the booster jab on time. Boris has even dragged out Rent an Epidemiologist to paint over the cracks by saying 12 weeks might be OK. The whole affair will be erased because we are not going back to normal. SARS2-CoV-19 is forever. There hasn't been a triumph and there won't be.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    We [in the U.K.] are being given a vaccine in a rush that works with a 3 weeks spacing. We bought the first batch hurriedly prior to full Brexit. We have no means of delivering the booster jab on time. Boris has even dragged out Rent an Epidemiologist to paint over the cracks by saying 12 weeks might be OK.

    One of your vaccine options, AZ/Oxford’s was initially Phase III tested with three weeks spacing, which sure looks like an error on the part of Oxford’s in its Phase I/II test, and there’s good theory and now some claimed data that twelve weeks is going to produce better long term results from that one vaccine.

    Spacing our the intervals for the mRNA vaccines has not been tested at all at the Phase III level, the manufacturers are not supporting the concept for obvious reasons, but the theory of getting partial protection in the largest number of people as fast as possible is sane from a public health standpoint. As far as I know it’s based on meager vaccine supplies like everyone else is facing, not an inability to provide the second jab at the normal interval. This has been extensively discussed in some recent Unz.com James Thompson topics which do a better job of explaining the public health experiment the U.K. is running. I’d say it’s low to medium risk, with a very high potential payoff. Will be an even better decision if V2.0 vaccines are needed because of the South African variant, or one that better escapes existing V1.0 vaccines.

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