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And now Twitter wants to cancel Andrew Sullivan for his skepticism about the Conventional Wisdom’s blanket dismissal of a certain “myth” about racial differences, even though I presume Sullivan has done a lot of first-hand hands-on fact-checking of this question over the decades …

Personally, I defer to Sullivan’s expertise on this subject.

By the way, Ida Bae Wells (N. Hanna Jones) is the New York Times’ 1619 Project expert on American history.

 
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  1. syonredux says:

    And now Twitter wants to cancel Andrew Sullivan for his skepticism about the Conventional Wisdom’s blanket dismissal of a certain “myth” about racial differences, even though I presume Sullivan has done a lot of first-hand hands-on fact-checking of this question over the decades …

    Personally, I defer to Sullivan’s expertise on this subject.

    Indeed…

    Some time ago,[Andrew] Sullivan, who is HIV positive, took out an anonymous personal ad on a website called Barebackcity.com, which advertises itself as the “one stop source for bareback [i.e., unprotected anal] sex.” He listed himself under the screen name “RawMuscleGlutes,” posted two headless photographs, and solicited bareback sex, preferably (although he did not say only) with other HIV-positive men. He also indicated an interest in “bi-scenes, one-on-ones, three-ways, groups, parties, orgies and gang bangs,” but not in “fats and fems.”

    https://www.thenation.com/article/andrew-sullivan-overexposed/

    Mr Sullivan’s self description:

    DC Male 35 5’9″ 198 32w 45c 17a 19neck big hairy thighs; squatting 8 plates. solid bodybuilder, 10 percent body-fat; huge shoulders, strong, hairy b*tt; semi-bearded. into: hairy, endowed, masculine men. always 4.20. vers/top brothers welcome. uncut a plus. Hiv+ here. Healthy undetectable. chem-unfriendly; no such thing as too hairy.

  2. JimDandy says:

    I didn’t realize that all of the blacks who crow about how their penises are bigger are actually self-hating victims who have internalized white supremacist ideals.

    What a vile, hateful canard against black men to say that they win the dick-measuring contest!

  3. I merely asked her what sources she had that this is indeed a “myth.”

    Something can be both true and mythical. Most great battles are.

    Killer Muscle Andy is well-placed for research, based as he is in the District of Columbia. But was he facing the right way for accurate measurement?

    • Replies: @dr kill
  4. lhtness says:

    Shut up, they explained.

    Perhaps someday soon “citation needed” will be deemed “hate speech”?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Lockean Proviso
  5. My recollection is that back in the early years of the blog explosion one of the things that gnxp used to use to go after Jared Diamond was that he authored a paper that compared testicle weight to body weight ratios by race – with a conclusion that surprised exactly no one.

    Perhaps Steve’s searching skills are superior to mine and he can dig up this old paper to humorous effect on twitter.

  6. Svigor says:

    Iraqi prime minister says Qassem Soleimani was in Iraq to ‘discuss de-escalating tensions between Iran and Saudis’ when he was killed – and claims Trump had asked for help mediating talks after embassy attack

    The outgoing Iraqi leader says that Soleimani was supposed to bring him Iran’s response to a Saudi proposal for de-escalating regional tensions

    Iraq’s caretaker prime minister, Adel Abdul Mahdi, told his parliament in Baghdad on Sunday that US strike on Soleimani was a ‘political assassination’

    Killed under flag of truce…stay classy, (((Weimerica))).

    And not even the neokhans are giving Trump upcomies.

    P.S., Soleimani was a soldier, not a terrorist. If he was a terrorist, (((Big Media)) would have published something about his acts of terrorism, terrorist strikes he masterminded, etc. But they haven’t. All they’ve talked about is how many American military personnel his troops killed in Iraq. If Iran invaded Canada or Mexico, I wouldn’t call our generals terrorists for killing Iranian military in either country; I’d call them soldiers.

  7. anon[421] • Disclaimer says:

    Woke Twitter is just the logical extension of leftism a few years back.
    Andrew Sullivan may find it hard to swallow, but he’s just getting a taste of what he used to give out to the conservative cishets. What goes around, comes around, in the end.

    Off to the store to buy some popcorn.

    • Replies: @FPD72
    , @Father O'Hara
  8. Sullivan is really out of it. How clueless does he have to be to try to have a “conversation about race” with a negress? The only reason she wants to have the “conversation “ is to call him an evil racist. The only reason for the 1619 Project at all is to call him (or any/all white Americans) an evil racist.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  9. Forbes says:

    Twitter is for Twits…demonstrated on a regular basis every day.

  10. Conventional wisdom is wrong!!!

    Native Americans are the most well endowed.

    FWIW, Jewish guys are the longest lasting…while Southern “good ol’ boys” are rated #1 in Total Sexual Satisfaction by their female partners.

    • Replies: @SFG
  11. Are you thinking penis size differences will be the, uh, backdoor into intelligence differences?

  12. JohnnyD says:

    Doesn’t Andrew Sullivan get to play the gay card?

    • Replies: @SC Rebel
  13. Anonymous[206] • Disclaimer says:

    Gen. Casey Kasem upgraded to Order of Large Trident posthumously:

  14. An application of Allen’s Rule, a well-established principle of within-species variation by distance from the tropics (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allen%27s_rule#In_humans), suggests that this is probably not a myth for male penises. The conclusions to be drawn about female vulvas, vaginas, clitorises, labia, and other female sex organs are less clear, although I suspect a case could be made for Negro women having on average more pendulous breasts.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
  15. Not very scientific, but probably over half of the monster dong type male porn stars in straight porn are at least part black. My friend noticed this and told me. I never watch pornography nor would I notice something like that.

  16. “Conventional Wisdom’s blanket dismissal of a certain “myth” about racial differences, even though I presume Sullivan has done a lot of first-hand hands-on fact-checking of this question over the decades …”

    I’m sure he has made plenty of oral arguments, as well as worked his ass off, in order to get to the “Truth” of this Tiny matter.

    • LOL: Abe
  17. (Posting this comment separately in case Steve decides the other portion of this post is a bit too risque.)

    Gay twitter was successful in getting a troubled young porn star to commit suicide a few years ago, for the high crime of noticing that homosexual porn stars have a higher rate of HIV than nonhomos do, so perhaps Sullied could work that angle back at this Ida Bae body.

  18. This is hilarious. Good for Andrew for pointing out how absolutely ridiculous so much of Woke culture is.

    I’d mortgage my house to bet Andrew has had a lot more experience with a “diverse” variety of male sex organs than Ms. Wells.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  19. lol.

    AIDS Dementia Complex Andy,

    who thinks that Sarah Palin’s down syndrome baby is secretly her daughter’s,

    who thinks he’s a good Catholic boy even though he ‘s a sodomite who literally blasphemed the sacrament of marriage by having a “gay wedding” to another man he calls his “husband”— a blasphemy he perpetually continues by insisting his “marriage” is real and the man is his “husband” and commits sodomy with—-

    and who’s crush on Obama was so bad he was jacking off to anything the man said—

    is about to be cancelled.

    Glorious.

    Like with Kevin Williamson and other fake “allies” on the right, burn baby, burn. I won’t lift a finger to stop it.

    You reap what you sow, baby. And he’s sowed only evil.

    • Replies: @Thomas
  20. I presume Sullivan has done a lot of first-hand hands-on fact-checking of this question…

    I bet AS has done an in depth study of this question.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  21. Buck says:

    It really must be terrible being a black women in today’s Woke America. In the bad, old days; black men had to content themselves to the company of black women or be faced with extra-judicial wrath of White men. Now miscegenation and homosexuality are no longer taboo but revered. Black men are spoiled for choice.

    Hannah Jones is just upset with the realization that black men will sexually gratify themselves with almost anything, including Andrew’s HIV-positive hairy backside. What’s a nice black girl to do?

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
  22. Almost all stereotypes are true, when discussing averages or deviations from average. Otherwise they wouldn’t be stereotypes. Where wokeness goes wrong is in taking the correct observation that not all members of a group adhere to a stereotype, and distorting that into “all stereotypes are completely arbitrary, uninformative, and harmful”

  23. How do you wind up with the Danish word for, “poop, ” as your middle name?

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=B%C3%A6

    Top definition

    Bæ/bae is a Danish word for poop. Also used by people on the internet who think it means baby, sweetie etc.

  24. MEH 0910 says:

  25. NOTA says:

    I believe the required response here comes from Mel Brooks.

    It’s twue! It’s twue!

    • LOL: R.G. Camara
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  26. Wow. This quality of this dialog between this Clownette of Color and the HIV-positive pseudoconservative rivals the intellectual quality of a dialog between Chesterton and Belloc. No one can deny that civilization has made significant progress in the last century.

    • Agree: Bill
    • LOL: Lurker, TelfoedJohn
    • Replies: @bigdicknick
  27. farenheit says:

    I believe Milo and Anderson Cooper could add to the discussion as well.

  28. res says:

    You questioned whether black men really do have larger penises than other racial groups. That is all I need to know about you.

    What’s even funnier is if you don’t know the context that can be read two ways. Are we sure which she meant?

    Lynn’s 2012 paper on the topic:
    Rushton’s r–K life history theory of race differences in penis length and circumference examined in 113 populations
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/257045369_Rushton’s_r-K_life_history_theory_of_race_differences_in_penis_length_and_circumference_examined_in_113_populations
    https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/an-examination-of-rushton_s-theory-of-differences-in-penis-length-and-circumference-and-r-k-life-history-theory-in-113-populations.pdf

    And of course the inevitable outraged posts (more out there if you care to look) calling it pseudoscience.
    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/unique-everybody-else/201210/the-pseudoscience-race-differences-in-penis-size

    Much criticism of sources, but oddly no alternative sources are presented showing he is wrong.

  29. vhrm says:
    @syonredux

    That’s from 20 years ago it appears. My biggest issue with it though of his claim of “squatting 8 plates” when he means 4!

    i can’t speak for that site or that far back but by the late 2000s at least “n plates” means n plates per side of the bar. 1 plate = 45 lbs bar + 1 45 lbs plate on reach side = 135lbs.
    2 plates = 225
    3,4,5 = 315, 405, 495, etc

    There exist people who squat 8 plates (765lbs) but they are few and prob on serious steroids.

    In trying to look into this i found this article by him from 2000 saying he squats over 400lbs after he started taking testosterone… because his was depressed.
    ( https://www.nytimes.com/2000/04/02/magazine/the-he-hormone.html )

    (how much of “low-T” as currently diagnosed is really a medical issue vs an excuse for middle aged and older men to do steroids legally… is somewhat of a matter of opinion)

    anyhow, 4 plates!

  30. @res

    Much criticism of sources, but oddly no alternative sources are presented showing he is wrong.

    Like much of leftist counterargument. Lots of handwaving and repetition of lies, not actually searching for truth.

    Should tell you something.

    At least when Stephen Jay Gould lied about Galton, he made up a story why Galton was wrong. Sure, it was a blatant lie, but at least it was in the form of counterargument.

    • Replies: @Thomas
  31. So, I never bothered to do this before now, but it inspired me.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/756719/World-s-biggest-penis-half-metre-Roberto-Cabrera-disabled-pillow

    Sorry Africa, it’s the Mexicans that have the pingaso ultimo!

  32. @NOTA

    The scene doesn’t seem to be online, but here is how New York magazine describes a scene from Private Parts:

    Sitting on a locker-room bench, Howard [Stern] stares in misery as a variety of naked black boys go past him, heading for the showers.

    I seem to remember the dialogue describing them as rhinoceros penises.

  33. Carol says:

    What about the claim that gun lovers are under endowed? I ask, how many have they checked out?

  34. vhrm says:

    Judging from the porn world… the distribution at the right tail is the reverse of say Physics PHDs: a lot of BBC, some BWC. If there’s some truly “BAC” out there it’s never come up (though can’t say I’ve searched either )

  35. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:

    I am not a “first hand expert” on this but discussions with people who really are and casual can’t-help-but-noticing seem to prove my theory, which is that extremes of size in the pants department uually occur in mixed race groups, except ironically in the purebred Japanese, whose size difference can be proven by the fact that Japanese condom makers have to use smaller mandrels on their machines and that Japanese condoms don’t fit men anywhere else.

    My father was in the Dominican Republic and remarked that the male population there seemed equine, but never the less the Dominicanas were more than available to foreign (white) men because the size of their bank accounts and the offchance possibility they could get them off the island more than made up for the relative lack of statutory peckerage.

    Haitians and Jamaicans seem to be generally huge too. Chris Stein told me that Jean-Michael Basquiat was , besides being ill tempered, exceptionally bejingled even for a Haitian-yes, I know anecdote is the singular of data, but apparently there’s photos on line.

    The old retired call girls I knew had been with American blacks, mostly showbiz and athletes, and remarked that they were generally pretty big but that it was softer when fully turgid than that of a white man, so not as imposing to deal with, but that certain girls could handle the biggest customers and certain others could or would not. So that their ‘agents’ could line up the more accomodatious girls with the customers that needed that, while not ruining the merchandise, so to speak, for the rest.

    Humans are not quite universally adapted for relations, in other words most fit most but all do not fit all (or are able to do all any good).

  36. nglaer says:

    Yeah, no hands on experience needed, the locker room at an integrated school tells you all you need to know.

  37. Gunner says:

    Andy is the Victor Davis Hanson of black dick. I trust him more than Black Annie.

  38. Peterike says:

    More silly nonsense, but woke Twitter isn’t dying and won’t die. It rolls on from victory to victory. It doesn’t matter how insane it gets or how ludicrously wrong. They own the megaphone. They are winning in a big way.

    Things might change down the road but we’ve got at least ten more years of this, and the insanity curve gets steeper every day.

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Replies: @Smithsonian_6
  39. @MEH 0910

    Is Nicole Hannah Jones trying to look like one of the villains from “Hunger Games”?

  40. Anonymous[270] • Disclaimer says:

    I presume Sullivan has done a lot of first-hand hands-on fact-checking of this question over the decades

    You are usually more subtle than this.

  41. Neuday says:

    Wouldn’t it also mean that black women have larger holsters? You guys can go ahead and research that without me.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  42. Anonymous[172] • Disclaimer says:

    I hope that Ida Bae dispels the “myth” that “black” people have darker skin than “white” people while she is at it.

  43. @syonredux

    Some great examples of Newspeak in there:

    healthy undetectable, adj.
    /ˈhɛl.θi ʌndɪˈtɛktəbəɫ/

    Having the habit of rooting around in the lower intestines of other men, collecting parasites and debilitating diseases; also, having a lifestyle structured around these faecal explorations, to the point where it renders both private and public life impossible.

    “He supports three separate strains of giardia in his anus and Israel in his heart. The man’s no ordinary freshman GOP senator. He’s healthy undetectable.”

  44. She should have consulted Eddie Murphy:

  45. Lot says:
    @res

    Congratulations to Lebanese and Icelanders, condolences to South and East Asians.

    The worldwide B-W gap isn’t that large, probably because of poor diets in most of Africa. It is the Asian-Rest of World gap that’s huge.

    The NE Asian range is 9.66 to 11.2cm. The smallest of the many black samples is 15.22.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
  46. Rapparee says:
    @syonredux

    A friend my wife made in one of her theatrical productions claimed nearly every single personal ad on homosexual men’s dating websites says “masculine-acting only, no fatties, no femmes”, or words to that effect.

  47. Currahee says:
    @bigdicknick

    Good to have friends.

    • LOL: Lot
  48. Anonymous[113] • Disclaimer says:

    Size varies inversely with female faithfulness.

    Smallest primate package = 400 pound silverback, who of course has no faithfulness issues to be concerned with.

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
  49. @Svigor

    Iraqi prime minister says Qassem Soleimani was in Iraq to ‘discuss de-escalating tensions between Iran and Saudis’ when he was killed – and claims Trump had asked for help mediating talks after embassy attack

    And Michael Brown’s mom said he was getting ready to enroll in community college and turn his life around.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Troll: Bill
    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Desiderius
  50. @res

    From Lynn’s 2012 paper, you perverts:

    The second new data set consists of a survey carried out in New York City in 2010 of objectively measured and self-measured erect penis length in a sample of 800 adult men consisting of 200 from each group of blacks, Hispanics, whites and Asians. The majority of the group identified as Asians will have comprised Chinese and Koreans, but may have included some South and Southeast Asians). These data are reported in http://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=3073. Retrieved 20 June, 2011 and are given in Table 2. The results confirm Rushton’s theory of differences in penis length by finding that both objectively measured erect penis was greatest in Negroids (6.9 inches), intermediate in Caucasoids (6.1 inches) , and smallest in Mongoloids (5.3 inches). The same differences are present for self-assessed penis length but objectively measured penis length is likely the more reliable result. This study also showed that Hispanics had an objectively measured penis length of 6.5 inches, intermediate between that of Negroids and Caucasoids. Standard deviations were not given, so it is not possible to calculate the statistical significance of the differences between the groups.

    Table 2
    Penis length (inches) in four ethnic groups in New York.
    Penis length (Measured/Self-reported)
    Blacks 6.9/7.9
    Hispanics 6.5/7.7
    Whites 6.1/7.8
    Asians 5.3/6.7

    https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/an-examination-of-rushton_s-theory-of-differences-in-penis-length-and-circumference-and-r-k-life-history-theory-in-113-populations.pdf

    • Replies: @FvS
    , @Jane Plain
  51. @vhrm

    Does he break parallel or do half squats?

  52. Blacks do have bigger dicks than whites. I got curious about this in the fifth grade and looked. They do.

    Now, let’s move on. I’m sure horses have bigger dicks as well. Ask me if I feel the need to deny that also.

  53. Anon[282] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    The American foreign policy establishment has a history of lying and dishonesty, as does Trump himself. There’s no reason to distrust the Iraqi PM here more than the Trump administration.

  54. @Steve Johnson

    My recollection is that back in the early years of the blog explosion one of the things that gnxp used to use to go after Jared Diamond was that he authored a paper that compared testicle weight to body weight ratios by race – with a conclusion that surprised exactly no one.

    Diamond, J. M. (1986). “Ethnic differences: Variation in human testis Size”. Nature. 320 (6062): 488–489

  55. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

  56. Arclight says:

    The point of the 1619 Project and any and all “conversations” on race is submission. Ms. Jones and like minded people will just repeat their version of history ad infinitum and dismiss any criticism as simply a wrong headed and subjective point of view, with the aim of wearing down the opposition and ensuring the largest media and academic outlets adopt the party line.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    , @Art Deco
  57. Anon[156] • Disclaimer says:

    Via a link from Wesley Yang on Twitter, a blog post yesterday from evolutionary biologist Robert Trivers on his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein:

    http://roberttrivers.com/Robert_Trivers/Blog/Entries/2020/1/5_Trivers_on_Epstein.html

    I have been called a racist for accepting money from Jeffrey (and three other sources) to do work showing that (1) in Jamaica 8 year-old children whose knees are more symmetrical run faster when they are 22 and that (2) elite Jamaican sprinters—who are the best of the best—whose knees are more symmetrical are the very best—world-wide. How in God’s name is this racist? Another organism noted that the rural data were based on “poor people” being induced by large subject payments. First, the sample was as random as we could get it, everyone attending a large elementary school. Second, large subject payments are bad? Quite the contrary—and the poorer the recipient the better. The payments tend to breed loyalty to the project, including showing up to be re-measured and are intrinsically beneficial to the recipients.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Jack D
  58. Michael S says:
    @vhrm

    Hah, glad I wasn’t the only one. I was thinking “damn, 8 plates IS impressive, the guy wasn’t that huge, did he really mean 8 per side or just 8 total?”

    4 plates (405) still isn’t bad at all for a natty bodybuilder in a sub-HW class. Too bad he wasn’t natty.

    • Agree: vhrm, fish
    • Replies: @anonymous
  59. @Svigor

    What does that have to do with black penises?

    Stay on topic.

  60. @West Reanimator

    He’s not clueless. He’s pointing that she and the whole 1619 Project is a bunch of bullshit. Remember the Anthony Daniels thing? He’s doing that to her.

  61. SFG says:
    @TontoBubbaGoldstein

    You know, I thought that name was ironic. But maybe not.

  62. Anonymous[520] • Disclaimer says:

  63. Thomas says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Like with Kevin Williamson and other fake “allies” on the right, burn baby, burn. I won’t lift a finger to stop it.

    Speaking of which… I always read him as a closet case.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    , @J.Ross
    , @Art Deco
  64. ziel says:
    @Steve Johnson

    I remember that, too! Though I wouldn’t necessarily say they were “going after” him – more pointing out that he wasn’t always quite the Woke Anthropologist he had lately become.

    • Replies: @Steve Johnson
  65. Lot says:
    @Svigor

    Source of this claim:

    “ In the 1970s, Abdul-Mahdi was a leading member of the Iraqi Communist Party.”

    “By that time, Abdul-Mahdi adopted Iranian Islamic ideas, eventually merging with the Islamists when Ayatollah Khomeini eradicated the communists and other liberal opposition groups in Iran. Abdul-Mahdi continued his association with Iran and gradually amalgamated his group within the ICP-Central Leadership with the Iranians, rejecting his Marxist past and devoting all his group’s time to propagating Khomeini’s ideas in France, where he lived at the time. He eventually was made a member of the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq, an exiled opposition party and militia that was formed by Iran in Tehran in 1982 but composed exclusively of Iraqi exiles.”

    “ Abdul Mahdi was nominated by two rival blocs, one led by Shia leader Muqtada al-Sadr and outgoing Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, and the other by pro-Iranian political bloc leader Hadi al-Amiri and former Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.”

    • Replies: @Svigor
  66. Polynikes says:
    @Svigor

    A general of a hostile nation covertly in territory US forces control? That makes him more of a legitimate target than had he been a terrorist. Nobody wouldve bat an eye at the Taliban going after Petraeus in Pakistan.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @Bill
    , @Kratoklastes
  67. Anonymous[177] • Disclaimer says:

    There must be something to racial differences in cock size. Rocco Siffredi made a career in porn not only due to his aggressive style, but also because he is one of the very, very few white guys who has that combination of length and girth: 9″ long and as thick as a baby’s arm. Here Rocco gives a masterlcass to men on how to brutalize and dominate women for a more fulfilling sexual lifestyle: https://youtu.be/o9FAFnJS1dM

  68. J.Ross says:

    Could skepticism about Mandingo dinguses be impelled by “the new celibacy” and the lack of things like common showers?

  69. Thomas says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Like much of leftist counterargument. Lots of handwaving and repetition of lies, not actually searching for truth.

    Should tell you something.

    The “tell” these days is when they refer to something as “debunked.”

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    , @Saint Louis
  70. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Neuday

    Wouldn’t it also mean that black women have larger holsters? You guys can go ahead and research that without me.

    No first hand experience, but I’m told no.

    I can tell you from extensive personal experience Japanese girls are a little snugger than white girls, but they are smaller overall.

  71. @Thomas

    Only his FBI handler knows for sure.

  72. @vhrm

    45 lbs plate on reach side

    Olympic plates? Weird.

    In the 80s and 90s “plates” were 50lb and the bar + collars (7′ × 1″ standard bench bar) was 30.

    130; 230; 330 – much more straightforward.

    You’re right though: 430 is 4 plates, not ‘8’.

    8 plates per side on incline leg press, maybe… I could do that even today (and pay for it for the following fortnight: late middle-age DOMS is a harsh bitch).

    • Replies: @anonymous
    , @vhrm
  73. @Arclight

    will just repeat their version of history ad infinitum and dismiss any criticism as simply a wrong headed and subjective point of view, with the aim of wearing down the opposition and ensuring the largest media and academic outlets adopt the party line.

    That’s been the one simple trick the Left has used the last 100 years: repetition. The Big Lie. The Nazis were the ones who accused the leftist-communist press in England of the Big Lie; it was only turned on the Nazis by the Brits as a convenient ruse of projection.

    If you ever wonder why gay “marriage” and gay “relationships” have been normalized, look no further than repeat, repeat, repeat.

    Of course, holding the megaphone exclusively hasn’t hurt their brainwashing powers, either.

  74. J.Ross says:
    @Thomas

    When you stop and notice how bizarre Andrew Sullivan is, and how outlandish many of his statements have been (but recall he does produce some sensible punditry, cf his recent prediction of economically-leftist socially-rightist politics), and consider all the far more normal and reasonable people who have been unpersonned, and who would never compete with SulliedMan for the same column, it really is like the crazy are revolting against the sane. Of course, Andy’s a full hairy back saner than the people who sell pronoun madness.

  75. FPD72 says:
    @anon

    You win the award for most double entendres in one paragraph.

  76. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Steve cutback davis ??

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  77. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Id like to speak for the group when I ask @Isteve to stay away from big black dick discussions among the degens.

    WTF

  78. MEH 0910 says:
    @Steve Johnson

    The link to GNXP is dead:

    VDARE:

    Jared Diamond: the New King of All Media
    Steve Sailer
    07/24/2005

    ******
    In fact, back in 1986 Diamond published a study in Nature that is so unfit for polite society that it would probably get him lynched by his current admirers if they ever heard of it: “Ethnic Differences: Variations in Human Testis Size.” Personally, I don’t have a lot of first-hand experience, so I couldn’t give you my opinion on the validity of Diamond’s findings on racial differences in testicle size. But Diamond seemed pretty fascinated by the subject.

    • Replies: @Steve Johnson
  79. Dan says:
    @Svigor

    The Quds force was an Iranian paramilitary force that worked exclusively outside Iran. The definition of terrorism.

  80. Furthermore, don’t you dare suggest they are better at playing cornerback.

  81. Lot says:
    @MEH 0910

    Where have I seen that shallow, flat crystal goblet before?

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=YegEm2J73mM

  82. anon[584] • Disclaimer says:
    @lhtness

    Perhaps someday soon “citation needed” will be deemed “hate speech”?

    “Learn to code” is forbidden on Twitter in some contexts.

    “Learn to cite”…uh-oh.

    • Replies: @Lurker
  83. SC Rebel says:
    @JohnnyD

    He’s white, so no he doesn’t.

    This whole intersectionality thing is a bummer.

  84. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:

    Gay white dude vs Black woman….

    Who has more Pokémon points???

    • Replies: @Gunner
  85. I once heard an NPR discussion about whether penis size mattered to females. The only group who claimed it highly important were heavy women . This makes sense as less well endowed males have a disadvantage at even getting where you need to go with a fat lady. Another NPR radio program proclaimed that upwards of 83% of black females met the criteria for being obese. Combined the two programs suggest that the reason for oversized black johnsons ( which gym class in hs and the army showed me to be true) is that thier females are too fat for anything else. I finally learned something worth knowing from public radio. Thanks NPR!

  86. @Dave Pinsen

    Bingo.

    I’ve never seen so many people trying to act sophisticated by demonstrating how flat out gullible they are.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Ian Smith
  87. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Michael S

    Pretty sure he means 8 plates total…405 is pretty good for a middle-aged, not very big, sick man, even one on testosterone (assuming he goes to parallel or something like it), and whatever other weirdo drugs he can find to help him function.

  88. Jack D says:
    @Svigor

    The tensions that Soleimani was supposedly there to discuss (he wasn’t) were ones that he himself had created. If an arsonist shows up at a fire scene with a bucket of water, he gets no credit because he’s the one who lit the fire in the first place.

    All they’ve talked about is how many American military personnel his troops killed in Iraq.

    So it’s OK for Soleimani’s soldiers to kill American soldiers but we’re not allowed to kill him back? How does that work?

    Did you weep for Soleimani like Khameinei did? My eyes stayed dry.

  89. @Lot

    But does the data stand up to rigid standards of hard science?

  90. MSP says:

    He should post that men have bigger penises than women and have woke twitter completely lose their collective minds.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  91. @Desiderius

  92. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dan

    The Quds force was an Iranian paramilitary force that worked exclusively outside Iran. The definition of terrorism.

    The U.S. military does as well. Posse Comitatus Act.

  93. @Jack D

    Did you weep for Soleimani like Khameinei did? My eyes stayed dry.

    Soleimani, like his fellow Persians and Svigor, was Aryan, so there’s that.

  94. @ziel

    Now that I think more about it my recollection is that the prog hive mind has a few canned replies to HBD / IQ arguments and at the time their go-to was “just look at Guns, Germs and Steel” – pointing out that Diamond produced a paper that exactly contradicts his narrative there was a quick and easy way to put the opponent in an uncomfortable position.

  95. Jack D says:

    I’m confused here – is it racist to say that the brutha are or aren’t well endowed? I thought that the races are all the same/race does not exist?

    Hannah-Jones: “You questioned whether black men really do have larger penises than other racial groups. That is all I need to know about you.”

    “Black men have larger penises” = If you DON’T say this, you’re a racist.

    “White men have larger brains” = If you say this, you’re a racist.

    Some racial differences are beyond questioning, others are also beyond questioning but in the exact opposite way.

    Does this make any sense except in the who/whom sense? Am I missing something?

  96. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kratoklastes

    What is your authority for that… 45 lb. was accepted weight for York (reasonably accurate…OK, not Eleiko but good enough) plates, and 45 (sin collars) was accepted weight for bar. Gives me 135 for two plates and bar without collars. 225 for four plates, and so on up. Do you disagree?

  97. @onetwothree

    Excellent find! Thanks onetwothree.

  98. @MEH 0910

    Ok this is funny:

    In fact, back in 1986 Diamond published a study in Nature that is so unfit for polite society that it would probably get him lynched by his current admirers if they ever heard of it: “Ethnic Differences: Variations in Human Testis Size.” Personally, I don’t have a lot of first-hand experience, so I couldn’t give you my opinion on the validity of Diamond’s findings on racial differences in testicle size. But Diamond seemed pretty fascinated by the subject.

    vs

    And now Twitter wants to cancel Andrew Sullivan for his skepticism about the Conventional Wisdom’s blanket dismissal of a certain “myth” about racial differences, even though I presume Sullivan has done a lot of first-hand hands-on fact-checking of this question over the decades …

    Personally, I defer to Sullivan’s expertise on this subject.

    Given a similar writing prompt 15 years later Steve Sailer unconsciously repeated a very similar punchline.

  99. syonredux says:
    @Jack D

    Is it racist to say that Pygmies are short?

    Is it racist to say that East Asians have less B.O. than Whites and Blacks?

    Is it racist to say that Northern Europeans tend to be lactose tolerant?

    • Replies: @Jack D
  100. @Jack D

    ‘…Did you weep for Soleimani like Khameinei did? My eyes stayed dry.’

    Maybe you’ll get someone to weep for. If so, I guess you can give yourself a pat on the back.

  101. @Dan

    ‘The Quds force was an Iranian paramilitary force that worked exclusively outside Iran. The definition of terrorism.”

    God, that’s idiotic. It doesn’t even require rebuttal.

  102. @Jack D

    Why do we keep hearing that Soleimani “killed American soldiers” with IEDs in Iraq? If this is so important, why has it never really been brought up until now?

    Maybe I read it here, maybe I saw it on twitter…but rumor is that Trump did this at the encouragement of Iraq vets/officers/generals he was talking to that blamed Iran for their failure in Iraq. Which makes the assassination even more ridiculous, he shouldn’t be listening to bitter career military guys who want another adventure or the pride of salvaging their last one.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    , @Jack D
  103. Jack D says:
    @syonredux

    I think the answer that anything that casts blacks in a bad light or whites as superior is racist. Questioning anything that casts black in a favorable light or whites unfavorably is ALSO racist. All possible questions can be answered using this simple and convenient framework. No thinking or facts are required.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  104. I haven’t got the wherewithal to confirm this but I think I remember that JP Rushton provide empirical data suggesting larger black penis size, got laughed out of the universe by the left and then Richard Lynn confirmed Rushton and was promptly ignored. I suspect Andrew Sullivan of knowing this, Sullivan has raised questions about race unrealism in lib mags He is a very smart guy who has to tread very softly in lib land because it is only there that his sexual tastes are protected and he is tolerated But I think he knows a lot more about race realism than he lets on. It is too bad that homosexuals are anathema to the uncuked right. I used to know a bunch of gay guys who were were small businessmen. They were liberals because liberals protected their sexual proclivities. They might have made good nationalists if they were just tolerated and left alone vs sex

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  105. Hhsiii says:
    @MEH 0910

    Wild Irish Rose and 7 Up.

    • LOL: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @Jim Don Bob
  106. MEH 0910 says:
    @Jack D

    I’m confused here – is it racist to say that the brutha are or aren’t well endowed? I thought that the races are all the same/race does not exist?

    Nikole Hannah-Jones thinks it’s racist to say that the brutha are well endowed. You shouldn’t even question if the races are all the same.

  107. @Anonymous

    without looking it up, I remember it as Mark “Cutback” Davis and Bob “Jungle Death” Gerrard

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
  108. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    As HA as pointed out, doesnt this tautology apply to the Jews also.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  109. Mr. Anon says:

    The Latest Hill Woke Twitter Intends to Die on

    The Battle of the Bulge

  110. Anonymous[140] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    To wit, this famous jewish joke:

    Rabbi Altmann and his secretary were sitting in a coffeehouse in Berlin in 1935. “Herr Altmann,” said his secretary, “I notice you’re reading Der Stürmer! I can’t understand why. A Nazi libel sheet! Are you some kind of masochist, or, God forbid, a self-hating Jew?”
    “On the contrary, Frau Epstein. When I used to read the Jewish papers, all I learned about were pogroms, riots in Palestine, and assimilation in America. But now that I read Der Stürmer, I see so much more: that the Jews control all the banks, that we dominate in the arts, and that we’re on the verge of taking over the entire world. You know – it makes me feel a whole lot better!”

    • LOL: Alden
  111. Anon[156] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    The Deep State must really be incensed about Qasem Soleimani. The State Department just sent out a security alert (these are really rare, the last one in my email archives is from 2011, also related to Iran) to U.S. citizens abroad.

    Security Alert – U.S. Embassy Tokyo (January 7, 2020)

    Location: Japan

    Event: Heightened Middle East Tensions

    There is heightened tension in the Middle East that may result in security risks to U.S. citizens abroad.

    The Embassy will continue to review the security situation and will provide additional information as needed.

    Actions to Take:

    . Keep a low profile.

    . Be aware of your surroundings.

    . Stay alert in locations frequented by tourists

    . Review your personal security plans.

    . Have travel documents up to date and easily accessible.

    U.S. Embassy Tokyo
    American Citizen Services
    1-10-5 Akasaka, Minato-ku, Tokyo 107-8420
    Tel: 03-3224-5000
    After Hours: 03-3224-5000
    Fax: 03-3224-5856

    https://jp.usembassy.gov/u-s-citizen-services/

    When I first skimmed this I saw “Stay alert in locations frequented by terrorists.” I was going to ask them to forward the list of such locations to me.

    Just to be on the safe side I’ve ordered a Carlos Ghosn amp case from Amazon.co.jp in the event I have to quit the country in a hurry.

  112. @Ash Williams

    Any minute now, I’m expecting Mike Lindell to come out with the MyPenis Pillow. Made with Giza cotton.

  113. Gunner says:
    @Anon

    Sullivan’s Pokémon points are negated by his past Republicanism and not being fully onboard for World War T. At this point, Dick Cheney is more favored by the wokies.

  114. @res

    Otherwise known as The 16-19″ Project

  115. MEH 0910 says:
    @Hhsiii

    ******

  116. Hhsiii says:
    @MEH 0910

    Fancy. She should stick with Evan Williams straight.

  117. Anon[156] • Disclaimer says:

    J. Philippe Rushton on the Donahue show. I think I have it cued up to the penis part (from about 14:00 to 15:30).

    • Thanks: Lot, Dieter Kief
  118. @Jim Don Bob

    I bet AS has done an in depth study of this question.

    The key is the :

    + the sample size one is able to #

    He must recruit using the ^-and-stick approach. Or the ⅓ °

  119. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achilles Wannabe

    The problem is that homosexuals just do not seem to be able to confine their proclivities to their private space. At one time they largely did, but no more. They have to make everyone know they are gay and make everyone else publicly proclaim their approval. That’s why gays sued the Christian bakers who would not bake gay wedding cakes. The gays did not want to support the Christian bakers, nor did they (if they have any sense at all) want to eat something made by people who do not approve of them, they wanted to torment them and practice lawfare against them, knowing they did not have the resources to defend against a lawsuit financed by wealthy organizations.

  120. Hhsiii says:
    @Ron Mexico

    Wake up, Jeff.

    Good memory, at least on Cutback.

    Where’d you get that jacket?!

  121. @MSP

    He should post that men have bigger penises than women and have woke twitter completely lose their collective minds.

    “There is more variation within groups than between them.”

    • LOL: vhrm
  122. Mr. Anon says:
    @S. Anonyia

    Why do we keep hearing that Soleimani “killed American soldiers” with IEDs in Iraq? If this is so important, why has it never really been brought up until now?

    Why are IEDs considered to be beyond the bounds of “civilized” warfare? How is their use different from land-mines, missiles, bombs, or artillery?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @vhrm
  123. Ian Smith says:
    @Desiderius

    Maajid Nawaz is a former Sunni Islamist who’s found a nice gig for with a ‘I’m a good Muslim who denounces jihadis AND Islamophobes!’ He ultimately winds up bolstering invade the world, invite the world with his whole shtick. What a vile little greaseball.,

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  124. Lurker says:
    @GW

    Feeble hasbara.

    Svigor – not a cuck. I’ve read his comments online for at least 16-17 years. Never said a cucked thing yet.

    https://www.bitchute.com/video/hFSFPoMkg2V3/

  125. Jack D says:
    @S. Anonyia

    If this is so important, why has it never really been brought up until now?

    If “brought up” means “I was aware of it” then this statement is apparently true (as to you). Otherwise, Soleimani’s connection to Iraq IEDs (explosive penetrators) was extremely well documented. Google this and you’ll find article going back decades.

  126. @Anonymous

    This innocent article could have innocent illustrations– but the artist just had to gay them up:

    https://www.healthline.com/health/how-to-cuddle

  127. Lurker says:
    @Dan

    Well that leaves US and allied military in a very precarious position in Syria does it not? Given that they are not invited by the legitimate government of Syria. While these Iranians are in Iraq apparently with the blessing of the Iraqi state.

  128. Lurker says:
    @anon

    It’s OK To Cite.

    • Replies: @Feric Jaggar
  129. Anon[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Johnson

    Here’s the PDF, not digitized:

    https://www.nature.com/articles/320488a0.pdf

    (This was the first result in Google by searching for the journal name, the author’s name, and the title. Nobody can match me in my superhuman search skills! I can find the unfindable.)

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  130. black sea says:
    @Jack D

    Would this be the moment to post a bunch of signs that read:

    “Black People are Right about Penis Size”

    Then await the storm of confused indignation?

  131. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    Why is blasting the IED planting enemy general to bits considered to be beyond the bounds of “civilized” warfare?

  132. @Jack D

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @BB753
  133. @lhtness

    Demanding so-called “citations” privileges the patriarchal hyper-rationalist values embodied in Western scientific texts over feminine, tribal intuition myths, and folkways. Oh, myths. Never mind.

  134. @Jus' Sayin'...

    So maybe a larger flaccid member in hot climes serves functionally as a radiator for cooling the blood that flows through it. Those from colder backgrounds are growers, not show-ers, keeping the core temps warm until it’s actually time for action.

    • Replies: @prosa123
  135. @Ash Williams

    From the article, on topic for a Sailer post:

    Roberto has an assault charge for exposing himself to two underage girls and was deported from the US.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  136. @NJ Transit Commuter

    I’d mortgage my house to bet Andrew has had a lot more experience with a “diverse” variety of male sex organs than Ms. Wells.

    Ida Bae Wells = Labial-sewed

  137. El Dato says:

    I’m currently doing research on BLACKED.COM.

    I will publish results after … some time.

    By the way, Ida Bae Wells (N. Hanna Jones) is the New York Times’ 1619 Project expert on American history.

    Misread as “anal history”.

    The Internet has ruined me.

  138. WLAN says:
    @res

    It is wrong (basically hoax data).

    “World Penis Average Size Studies Database” contains a table purporting to show “Avarage [sic] penis size” for each of over one hundred countries. “This website provides information offered by trusted research centers and reports worldwide”, the subheader assures us. Looking at the “Data Sources” page as it appeared in 2011 [5], one finds a handful of references to relevant academic studies and a larger number of references included to appear superficially relevant to casual visitors but not actually containing any relevant data. No plausible internet sources for the alleged “self-reported” data were given and even for the purported “measured” averages published sources are almost never available. It’s clear the overwhelming majority of the numbers were simply made up by the creator of the site. For most countries, the data simply does not exist. Even where actual data does exist, the site creator appears to prefer making up numbers. For example, he creates a “self-reported” number for Italy instead of relaying the results of a published 3,300 person Italian study he lists in his references. Finally, on the contact page, in an amusingly bad attempt at defusing suspicion and deflecting questions about sources, we see “Studies results are summarized in this website; however some sources can not be mentioned, due to diplomatic dispute and reputation of scientific institutes.”

    http://racehist.blogspot.com/2015/05/racial-and-ethnic-variation-in-penis.html

    Here is most of the relevant published data I know of (but keep in mind the issues touched on in the previous post):

    http://racehist.blogspot.com/2015/05/racial-and-ethnic-variation-in-penis_30.html

    Rushton’s also not reliable on this.

    However, Dutton also found evidence that Rushton incorrectly reported the data on testicle size, ignoring at least two sources which indicated that not only East Asians, but also Africans, have smaller testicles than whites. In a coauthored paper from 1987, Rushton even blithely dismissed the evidence that Africans have smaller testicles than Europeans as “contrary to the general trend.”

    https://www.unz.com/article/investigating-a-great-though-flawed-investigator/

    Despite Rushton’s sometimes selective presentation of evidence, what data exist (on “size of penis, vagina, testes”) fail to consistently align with Rushton’s Asian < White < African framework.

    https://racehist.blogspot.com/2008/07/rushton-and-genital-size-one-more-time.html

    • Replies: @res
  139. vhrm says:
    @Mr. Anon

    They’re not considered worse than landmines… afaik.

    The IED related thing that Solemani is accused of,afaik, is giving fancy Iranian “explosive formed penetrator” type mines/bombs to the militias in Iraq which could penetrate a good deal of the early (and maybe even later) armored vehicles the US was using.

    (this on top of the general fomenting , training and funding of militias in Iraq to begin with)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  140. El Dato says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Every day, I notice we are reaching levels of dumb that should just be physically impossible.

    I imagine that UK Raab “Defense Minister” guy defending the kill because “muh right to self-defense”, then getting blown skyward immediately along with his minders and retinue like in a Tex Avery movie as relatively many nations consider the US-UK axis of fagsies a clear and present danger to health & well-being.

    So-called politicians justify their appalling behaviour to themselves because they are part of the “international community”, which is implied to be “larger than 1”, which is somehow linked to having ethics above those of a Nazi Badger and all that, right? Oh wait:

    US denies Iran’s FM Zarif visa to address Security Council in violation of UN treaty – reports

    And then:

    Netanyahu backs away from Soleimani assassination, warns ministers to ‘stay out’ of purely ‘American event’

    If the military has any sense, they will revolt.

    ‘Not leaving Iraq!’ Pentagon clarifies ‘poorly worded’ US withdrawal plan sent by ‘mistake’

    Nah. “Too dumb to fight back”.

    Well, you actually need a “Military Intelligence Guy” to come up with that brilliant idea for a hit and actually make it happen. That tells you everything about the levels of smart in that particular crab basket.

    “Snow doesn’t fall to cover the hills, but to reveal the tracks of every beast”

    NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg admitted on Monday that the alliance was not consulted about the killing, but said they all stood by Washington and condemned Iran, demanding Tehran “refrain from further violence and provocations.”

    The Ottoman Empire had servants who were less obsequious.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  141. @anon

    Sullivan is capable of some penerating analysis,but on this topic it would be wise to move slowly as opposed to just plunging in aggressively. He might find himself in a tight situation,as the butt of criticism.
    He needs to think before he opens his mouth. He should size up the situation,and not bite off more than he can chew.
    I would hate to see him wind up with egg on his face.

    • LOL: Jack D
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  142. @Peterike

    More silly nonsense, but woke Twitter isn’t dying and won’t die. It rolls on from victory to victory. It doesn’t matter how insane it gets or how ludicrously wrong. They own the megaphone. They are winning in a big way.

    As the recent British general election proved, winning on Twitter is not the same as winning power. Let the lunatics spend their energies screaming at each other, I say.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    , @Almost Missouri
  143. MEH 0910 says:
    @Anon

    (This was the first result in Google by searching for the journal name, the author’s name, and the title. Nobody can match me in my superhuman search skills! I can find the unfindable.)

    Can you find the picture of Steve Sailer with Margaret Thatcher? Steve used to display it on his old blog years ago. I don’t believe it exists online anymore.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Anon
  144. @Rabbi Zaius

    I once heard an NPR discussion about whether penis size mattered to females. The only group who claimed it highly important were heavy women

    How heavy are we talking? “Roll them in flour to find the wet spot” or “just the thing for a cold winter’s night”?

  145. @Buck

    Yesterday on the train I saw a thirtysomething black woman react with disgust (“F**kin’ bulls**t”) when a black man enthusiastically offered his seat to a twentysomething white woman. He practically begged her to sit down. She declined the offer.

    The black woman was not unattractive – she was thin and stylishly dressed. The white girl was rather plain and ordinary.

    As I’ve mentioned before, I have a dysfunctional alcoholic relative who’s married to a black guy. (He’s no genius, but he has a well-paying blue-collar job. And he’s no swaggering alpha – his wife and mother-in-law walk all over him.) She claims that black women always go out of their way to mistreat her when they see her with her husband and/or her kids.

    Not to go all Cosmo on you, but she has also told me that his uncut member is weirdly shaped and “stinky” and “nasty” and claims that he has given her many painful infections. She also says they haven’t had sex in years. Supposedly she cheated on him with a woman (!) and he cheated on her with someone old enough to be his grandmother.

    (She calls me late at night when she gets drunk and babbles on for hours. I just put the phone on speaker and let her ramble.)

    So, yes, white women who end up with black men do tend to have issues.

  146. MEH 0910 says:

    Heh, heh, heh:

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
  147. BB753 says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Those are concealed tears of joy. Am I the only one here who suspects Khamenei is secretly happy to get rid of a rival like Soleimani, an ambitious military and war-mongerer? My guess is the US got wind the ayatollahs wouldn’t mind if we blew him up. Perhaps his location was leaked. A win for both sides, notwinstanding the fake outrage.

    • Replies: @Sandmich
    , @Jack D
  148. BB753 says:
    @Ash Williams

    But typically, the Mexican wunder Wurst doesn’t work. Out of order.

    • LOL: Ash Williams
  149. tyrade says:

    Africa is stand out in this ‘department’:
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3748444/Erect-penis-sizes-compared-world.html

    The regression with IQ by country shows a predictably stereotypical negative slope, in fact. Outsize tackle and shoe-size-for-IQs do come as a package.

    • Replies: @BB753
  150. Anon[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    Can you find the picture of Steve Sailer with Margaret Thatcher? Steve used to display it on his old blog years ago. I don’t believe it exists online anymore.

    What I might try would be to go through the isteve.blogspot.com website, using “site:isteve.blogspot.com thatcher” and such keywords in Google, and perhaps then look at some of the key result in Archive.org’s Wayback Machine. If Google is not showing it, it may be because the surrounding text does not include the word “thatcher,” however. So then I would think of what Steve might write if he wanted to sort of “subtweet” the photo on a blog, and search for those words.

  151. Anonymous[746] • Disclaimer says:
    @vhrm

    (Shia) Iran providing (Sunni) Iraqi insurgents EFPs is another unsubstantiated claim made by neocon Jewess Judith Miller. Miller was fired from the NYT for fabricating stories in her Iraq war reporting. Miller also claimed Iraqi WMDs were moved into Syria with the help of Assad.

    Phil Giraldi wrote several articles on how ludicrous it was to suggest Iran was providing EFPs to Iraqi insurgents. He pointed out the source and reason for the lie.

  152. @James Braxton

    Can’t we all just get off this topic?

  153. @anonymous

    I was lifting back in the early 90s, and I don’t remember the plates being any different than they are now–45 lbs. He may have been using something non-standard. A gym I used to go to had special double-size plates for their squat press machine. They were 100lbs a piece, not 90lbs as you might expect.

  154. sb says:
    @bigdicknick

    You’re lucky to have a friend who is prepared to do this kind of research.
    Many here are not so fortunate.

  155. @MEH 0910

    Arnold taking lessons from Krusty at 1:50…

  156. @Rabbi Zaius

    “I once heard an NPR discussion about whether penis size mattered to females. The only group who claimed it highly important were heavy women.”

    I wish I’d thought of that. 😉 I’m not small, you’re just fat.

  157. @MEH 0910

    So, the last photo is her telling the world that she deeply envies and probably fantasizes about being Sally Hemmings?

  158. Anonymous[164] • Disclaimer says:
    @Father O'Hara

    Do you remember the now archaic verb for when a character in a book could say something quickly and suddenly, e.g. “We wuz Kangz!”, Mandingo ejaculated, not long after Andrew Sullivan knelt down in awe before the based black man.

  159. Bill B. says:
    @Jack D

    is it racist to say that the brutha are or aren’t well endowed?

    You miss the point. The statistics are meaningless because of the history of blacks oppressing whites and preventing them developing their full potential manhood. Whites need to be told that they are special and loved and disadvantaged. They need help and protection. Then they will grow.

    All Dongs are equal and in the Utopia to come every man will have an equal-sized Dong.

    (By the way even the statistics for Africa vary quite a bit: the Horn of Africa appears to be an erroneously named region.)

  160. BB753 says:
    @tyrade

    Strange. It would seem that Scandinavians are better endowed than most Europeans, on par with Italians! And here I thought penis size was a social construct!

    • Replies: @Marty
  161. @Dan

    gee thanks for that, mr. crenshaw

  162. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Why is blasting the IED planting enemy general to bits considered to be beyond the bounds of “civilized” warfare?

    It isn’t. But as far as I was aware, we weren’t in a state of War with Iran. Certainly Congress hasn’t declared one.

    I voted for disengagement from the mideast and its endless proxy wars. If this gets us ejected from Iraq and begins the process of us disengaging fromt the region, then bully for Trump. If this leads to wider war, then I’m agin it.

    I suspect this is just the fullfillment of the desires that have been enunciated by so many for so long for going to war with Iran – a war that serves the interests of foreign governments, not those of the United States. A war in which I’m sure “Our Greatest Ally” will be right there in alongside us:

    https://www.foxnews.com/world/netanyahu-israel-soleimani

  163. @Steve in Greensboro

    Her and the sort of black Jew Adam Serwer just call people racist. It’s absolutely insane what a fraud this woman is. So many of her claims are not supported with evidence. This was a pretty weird place to point this out, but her articles are full of claims without evidentiary support presented as empirical facts.

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
  164. Mr. Anon says:
    @Anonymous

    There are plenty of shiite militias in Iraq. Iraq is 2/3 shiite. So it isn’t far fetched to believe that Iran would be giving them weapons. They almost certainly were/are. Everybody in that part of the World stirs the pot.

  165. kihowi says:

    I liked Eddie Murphy’s take. He spends half the show bragging about big black dicks and then ridicules white people for a) making it up as a rumor, and b) not believing it.

    So it’s true, but also false, and also true. Feels very modern with its psychosis-logic. Many of those Twitter Bluechecks probably masturbated to BBC on Pornhub later that day and not felt that something was wrong.

    I remember seeing several pieces of research over the years (I think Durex used to do that) on this subject and they weren’t ambiguous in confirming what everybody already knows. But those are facts and facts are for nerds.

  166. Erik L says:
    @James Braxton

    This should be the new generic reply on any forum whenever anyone strays off topic

    • Replies: @anon
  167. Anon[355] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    I found it in the comments here at Unz.

    View post on imgur.com

    Since it’s on an ephemeral image hosting site someone should copy it to a more permanent home.

    I cropped out the part where he’s squeezing her right buttcheek. I don’t want Steve #metoo’d.

    • Thanks: MEH 0910
    • LOL: Precious
  168. Sandmich says:
    @BB753

    An interesting take, among other interesting takes (location leaked by Saudis and Israelis, etc); just leaves me more and more convinced that there’s no point in being over there to involve ourselves in these people’s weird adventures.

    • Replies: @BB753
  169. @Lockean Proviso

    “I don’t feel sad because I know in the USA there is a lot of women. One of them will be the right size for me.”

    He may have a point.

  170. @bigdicknick

    over half of the monster dong type male porn stars

    Do any have luminous noses?

    Or numinous ones?

  171. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    So there were no Shia militias back then? Because there sure seem to be a hell of a lot of them now. Iraq is 2/3 Shia so I think there was no shortage of Shia “insurgents” (Iranian proxies) to arm.

    Speaking of arms, if those weren’t Iranian EFPs with Iranian markings blowing the limbs off of Americans, where were they coming from? Were the dead and maimed American troops also a figment of the Jewess’s imagination?

    Seeing Soleimani shattered limb from limb must be sweet revenge for all those American men missing theirs and all the American war widows and bereaved parents. Khameinei’s tears would taste sweet to them. Why wasn’t he crying when he put their loved one in a box?

  172. Wade says:
    @vhrm

    DC Male 35 5’9″ 198 32w 45c 17a 19neck big hairy thighs; squatting 8 plates. solid bodybuilder, 10 percent body-fat; huge shoulders, strong, hairy b*tt; semi-bearded. into: hairy, endowed, masculine men. always 4.20. vers/top brothers welcome. uncut a plus. Hiv+ here. Healthy undetectable. chem-unfriendly; no such thing as too hairy.

    Your biggest problem with that statement, and all that it implies about our society (the fact that he’s gainfully employed as a highly visible journalist), is how he characterized his squat capacity?

    • Replies: @vhrm
  173. vinteuil says:
    @Thomas

    “debunked,” in left-speak, means “one of us, somewhere or other, on a website I can’t quite remember, disagreed.

  174. MEH 0910 says:
    @MEH 0910

  175. Jack D says:
    @El Dato

    Assuming the RT report is even true, Washington probably asked Netanyahu to distance himself, just like they wouldn’t let Israel participate in the invasion of Iraq (even though Saddam was sending missiles toward Israel and they had the right of self defense). Many Muslims (and some people around here) think that Washington is controlled by Zionists already so both Washington and Jerusalem like to put some daylight between themselves now and then.

    In this case, what Netanyahu was supposedly saying has the advantage of being true – Israel had nothing to do with the hit on Soleimani. Trump didn’t ask Israel just as he didn’t ask (or tell) anyone else.

    • Thanks: donut
  176. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Are you sure he was just measuring those kids KNEES?

    Maybe it was like those naked “posture photos” that they used to take of Ivy League/ Seven Sisters students (Hillary’s is still out there somewhere), where they really weren’t interested in their posture?

  177. Art Deco says:
    @Thomas

    During his years in Texas, he married. He was about 28 and his bride about 19. The marriage appears to have lasted about seven years, dissipating round 2007 during his years working in Philadelphia. Don’t think there were any children. I think his ex- might still live in the Philadelphia ‘burbs.

    No clue about Williamson. I would assume, among those on the NR masthead, that Jason Lee Steorts is a homosexual (though he’s never quite said as much; he’s a 38 year old bachelor who reacts to certain things in a certain way).

  178. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    Because the Joos might benefit.

  179. anon[177] • Disclaimer says:
    @Erik L

    This should be the new generic reply on any forum whenever anyone strays off topic

    Agreed.

  180. anonymous[697] • Disclaimer says:
    @Svigor

    Iraqi prime minister says Qassem Soleimani was in Iraq to ‘discuss de-escalating tensions between Iran and Saudis’ when he was killed

    Lol I’ll bet he was also an “aspiring musician” who had “recently talked about starting classes at a local community college in hopes of eventually becoming a doctor.”

  181. @Lurker

    ABC – Always Be Citing!

    • Replies: @anon
  182. @Anonymous

    Phil Giraldi wrote several articles on how ludicrous it was to suggest Iran was providing EFPs to Iraqi insurgents. He pointed out the source and reason for the lie.

    What? You think it’s ludicrous that Muslims of different sects might get together to fight the infidel? That would be ridiculous – like Iran sponsoring the rabidly anti-Shiite Hamas.

    https://www.thenational.ae/world/mena/hamas-attack-on-gaza-shiites-may-indicate-its-political-shift-1.360160

    Or the English and the French getting together with the Ottomans to fight the Russians in 1853. After all, the English and the French had been fighting each other for centuries, with the most recent hostilities just decades before.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_War
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Napoleonic_Wars
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundred_Years%27_War

    People who are skeptical of alliances between sworn enemies haven’t read a lot of history. Historically-speaking, alliances of convenience are the rule, not the exception. The Crusaders allied with Muslim rulers against other Muslim rulers. Muslim emirs in Spain allied with Christian rulers against other Muslim rulers.

    • Agree: Kratoklastes
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @J.Ross
  183. res says:
    @WLAN

    Thanks for posting what looks like a fairly thoughtful take with alternate data. Here is his take on the data–from your second link:

    My impression:

    While there are probably some real differences between populations, differences among different Caucasoid and Negroid populations, at least, appear to be greater than any overall differences between macroraces. I don’t find this surprising, since if we looked at, say, height, the same would probably be true.

    I’m not convinced the data support any difference between Northern Europeans and West Africans, and if differences exist, they are relatively minor.

    To the extent we can say anything about intra-Caucasoid differences, there appears to be a trend of declining penis size from Northern/western Europe towards SE Europe, the Middle East, and South Asia.

    Reported values for East Asia do appear to tend toward the low end among worldwide populations.

    Besides the second point, those sound like relatively mild disagreement.

    The two studies that bear on the second point most directly are references 70 and 74.

    70 is secondary data (primary source the Kinsey study). Here is the relevant text from there. Note the final sentence.

    Kinsey’s data indicate there’s a lot more variation in flaccid penis length than there is in erect penis length. Under actual working conditions, in other words, things tend to even out.

    The most striking demonstration of this is the comparison between whites and blacks. Largely on the basis of furtive observations in the locker room, white males tend to believe that blacks are better endowed than they are. Kinsey’s measurements of flaccid penis length tend to bear this out. White males had an average flaccid penis length of 4.0 inches, whereas the average black male’s detumescent member measured 4.3 inches. But when erect, the average white penis was 6.2 inches long, whereas the average black’s was 6.3 inches — still longer, but not by much. (Average circumference for whites was 3.7 inches; for blacks, 3.8.) These figures must be regarded with caution. There were more than 2,500 white male respondents, but only 59 black males.

    Here is a Kinsey Institute FAQ which has a bibliography.
    https://kinseyinstitute.org/research/publications/penis-size-faq-bibliography.php
    Its primary reference is the same as source 70 used.
    Gebhard, Paul, and Johnson, Alan. (1979/1998). The Kinsey Data: Marginal Tabulations of the 1938-1963 Interviews Conducted by the Institute for Sex Research (reprint edition).

    74 is (full text on Sci-Hub, DOI 10.1111/jsm.12244 )
    Erect Penile Length and Circumference Dimensions of 1,661 Sexually Active Men in the United States
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23841855

    That paper uses self reported data with subjects recruited as follows:

    A total of 1,824 men living in the United States were recruited through electronic advertisements posted on sex, humor, and adult-oriented websites. Print advertisements were placed in community newspapers and sexually transmitted infection (STI)/HIV prevention organizations in seven U.S. states that were selected for their disproportionately high rates of STIs and HIV and because they were, collectively, geographically diverse.

    Which hardly seems like a representative sample.

    Do we have any reason to believe his data is any better than Lynn’s? Have you looked closely into that? I mean one was published in an academic paper and the other was posted in a blog with the posts having many spam comments and few substantive comments (i.e. not much thoughtful discussion, which one would expect if it was written by and for knowledgeable people).

    I’m not one to dismiss or believe things solely because of the source, but it does have some bearing on credibility.

    P.S. Interesting choice for your first comment here. Welcome.

  184. Jack D says:
    @BB753

    Too clever by half. If Khamenei wanted Soleimani dead he could have arranged a “work accident” a long time ago – a helicopter crash, explosion while visiting a bomb factory, etc.

    Those were tears of self-pity. He knows that if he continues on his present course (and the political realities of Iran are such that he has no choice – he can’t get off the tiger that he is riding) then someday he will be the one in the box.

    But putting that aside, I think that he and Soleimani were truly close, like father and son. Even evil dictators are human. However, he and Soleimani should have thought of that before they embarked on this course – live by the sword, die by the sword. He’s not sad about death in general (and ESPECIALLY not about the death of Americans and Israelis) – he and Soleimani sent many men, women and children to their death without a bit of hesitation, not just enemies but Muslim suicide bombers too. He didn’t cry at their funerals. He’s crying because it’s HIS friend in the box.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/20/world/europe/explosion-on-bulgaria-tour-bus-kills-at-least-five-israelis.html

    • Replies: @BB753
  185. @Anonymous

    humans are way bigger than bonobos who i believe slut it up 24/7

  186. @Anon

    Oh no! Maggie associated with known racists! The sky is falling!

  187. anaon says:
    @Anon

    Wait, isn’t that Al Yankovic?

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  188. BB753 says:
    @Jack D

    You’re delusional. Please explain to me how Iran has acted more aggressively than the USA in the Middle East!

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Jack D
  189. BB753 says:
    @Sandmich

    Indeed, the Middle East should be avoided at any cost. It’s the “baton merdeux” of the world as French poet Baudelaire used to say of Belgium regarding Europe (“a shitty stick nobody wants to touch”).
    https://www.huffingtonpost.fr/pierre-menard/belgique-baton-merdeux-europe_b_6024222.html

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  190. Bill says:
    @Jack D

    “How does that work?”

    Time flows. Events end. The Iraq Attaq is over now. And that’s even without the problem that Iran was assisting Iraq in resisting an invasion while the US was, you know, invading.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  191. Rob McX says:
    @syonredux

    …uncut a plus.

    If that means what I think it does, the ADL should be on his back too (no pun intended).

  192. Salopian says:

    176 posts on this topic and no mention of the English Football Association asking Manchester United to take action against their own fans for a chant about striker Romulu Lukaku having an (unfeasibly large) penis? To their shame, English soccer fans are now so woke/cucked that the fans complied. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/41374186

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  193. prosa123 says:
    @Lockean Proviso

    So maybe a larger flaccid member in hot climes serves functionally as a radiator for cooling the blood that flows through it. Those from colder backgrounds are growers, not show-ers, keeping the core temps warm until it’s actually time for action.

    If that were the case, it would be true not just for men of African descent, but for men from other tropical climates (India, SE Asia, Amazonia, etc.)

  194. Rob McX says:
    @Ash Williams

    Being the man with the biggest penis in the world doesn’t seem to be a very lucrative occupation, judging by his shabby domestic surroundings. I assume it’s not functioning properly, or he’d at least be getting a few porn gigs to make ends meet.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  195. Slimer says:

    ” I presume Sullivan has done a lot of first-hand hands-on fact-checking of this question over the decades”

    I presume that most racist white men have done some hands-on fact-checking of this sort. And those who haven’t almost certainly fantasize about it.

  196. Jack D says:
    @Mr. Anon

    But as far as I was aware, we weren’t in a state of War with Iran. Certainly Congress hasn’t declared one.

    Congress has not declared a war since December, 1941 but we’ve had several. Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the power not only to declare war but also to “grant letters of marque and reprisal”. I think you can consider the whole section to be obsolete as a practical matter – that’s just not how things are done anymore in the modern world.

    Were we in a state of war with Iran when Soleimani was sending EFP’s to blow up American troops in Iraq? When he plotted to blow up the Saudi Ambassador in Washington? I would say that Iran has been fighting a covert or cold war with the US pretty much continuously since 1979. They don’t exactly try to hide their hatred of the Great Satan – it’s “Death to America” all the time. For various domestic political and practical considerations, we’ve pretended not to notice their provocations and they have always been pretty careful to act thru proxies and in a way that would preserve deniability for them. But Trump is not the kind of guy who is into polite diplomatic fictions.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Mr. Anon
  197. @Ian Smith

    Yes, for Trump to remain in office he has to keep the greaseballs* divided and fighting one another. If he lets them all get onside as they were a few months ago he’s gone. Now he’s got the neocons fighting the Obama clowns.

    * – dude doesn’t write like a greaseball, but then again you lost your country to a bunch of sub-Saharans, so maybe you’re not the best authority on how one maintains power.

    • Replies: @Ian Smith
  198. Jack D says:
    @Bill

    Too bad that Trump has a long memory. He even remembers when the Iranians took our diplomats hostage in 1979. Trump is not the kind of guy who is willing to let bygones be bygones.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Bill
    , @Svigor
  199. @Mr. Anon

    It isn’t. But as far as I was aware, we weren’t in a state of War with Iran. Certainly Congress hasn’t declared one.

    The Founders were around when Uncle Sam went after the Barbary Pirates without declaring war. I assume they found no constitutional issues with this action:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War#Declaration_of_war_and_naval_blockade

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  200. @Jack D

    No, he absolutely is once you agree to his deal. He’s always closing.

  201. Yngvar says:
    @Steve Johnson

    Then tell me, how do one go about taking a measurement of the weight of another mans ballsack? Placed in that position as a subject, I would certainly have resisted, I can assure you of that.

    In a less enlightened era, a scientist, that I’ll not name, did an in-depth study of the physiology and anatomy of my people. German and Latin was the scientific language of the time, so I scanned the texts of his publications and had it machine translated.
    Genitalis infantilimus was one of the phrases the translator stumbled over, but I can assure you..

  202. @Jack D

    The 2002 War on Terror AUMF covers it, and the IRGC was designated a terrorist org in April, so as far as Invade/Invite business goes, this one is on the legit side.

  203. Jack D says:
    @BB753

    I am not a Martian who is neutral or indifferent in the struggle between the West and Islam. Even if the US was more aggressive (and Iran BTW has been pretty aggressive in Iraq although with somewhat different aims and means – their goal is to neutralize Iraq as a threat more than to conquer it outright) I want the US and not Iran to succeed in this struggle.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  204. nebulafox says:
    @Johann Ricke

    >What? You think it’s ludicrous that Muslims of different sects might get together to fight the infidel? That would be ridiculous – like Iran sponsoring the rabidly anti-Shiite Hamas.

    It’s far from ludicrous: Iran has often supported radical Sunni groups-and by definition, they are invariably highly anti-Shiite-when they find it in their interests.

    There are no love marriages in foreign policy, only marriages of convenience with the occasional bit of adultery.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  205. Rob McX says:
    @Salopian

    176 posts on this topic and no mention of the English Football Association asking Manchester United to take action against their own fans for a chant about striker Romulu Lukaku having an (unfeasibly large) penis?

    You’re obviously a Buster Gonad fan.

  206. nebulafox says:
    @BB753

    Agreed. Nothing good comes out of that part of the world, ever. I’m not naive as to what the consequences of the US leaving the Middle East will be, but what exactly is the alternative? The status quo is not going to be sustainable for much longer. 1/4th of our national debt is due to the legacies of Iraq and Afghanistan alone. It’s best to start planning our exit now while we still have some cards to play and can influence some of the outcomes.

    Iranian hegemony (within the limits that is the result of the Shi’ites being a minority of the populace outside of Iraq-nobody seems to ever point out the demographic gap there) in much of the Fertile Crescent is inevitable by dint of its population and national cohesion. Why is this such a threat to American interests, though? It is a threat to Saudi interests. It is a threat to Israeli interests. Nobody bothers to explain why that is a threat to ours, just like anything else in the Middle East. We have our own oil. We don’t need theirs. And does anybody still seriously believe “We must fight them over there, so we don’t fight them over here”, given how the last couple of decades have gone?

    Soleimani’s icing should be used as an opportunity to disengage while Quds is temporarily decapitated, not the other way around. That’s what is maddening about Trump. He stumbles by accident onto the right things sometimes, but chooses to go flying down the road in the opposite direction from what logic would dictate: listening to the same K-street boys who have driven the USA into a ditch.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @Jack D
  207. AceDeuce says:
    @anonymous

    I agree. The big single plates are 45 #–they are even marked “45”, and any Olympic bar I ever saw was also 45 #.

  208. @Hhsiii

    Mad Dog 20/20 and seltzer.

  209. @nebulafox

    It’s far from ludicrous: Iran has often supported radical Sunni groups-and by definition, they are invariably highly anti-Shiite-when they find it in their interests.

    I was pointing out that Iran does fund highly anti-Shiite groups like Hamas, although relations cooled with the ascent of the Sunni Arab rebels in Syria. Iran is also sheltering a good number of al Qaeda members.

    https://ctc.usma.edu/marriage-of-convenience-the-evolution-of-iran-and-al-qaidas-tactical-cooperation/

  210. J.Ross says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Iran is icily pragmatic. Al Qaeda/Nusra/ISIS/CIA is dumb, emotional, and purist. Iran has cultivated allies in every country in the Umma. QNIC would einsatzgruppen villages it had just conquered even after all the villagers had gotten down on their knees and taken all the oaths and things. It makes perfect sense that icy pragmatists would exploit the strange marriages of realpolitik. It makes perfect sense that dumb purists would turn down a potential partner because of his ideology. The only thing that doesn’t make sense is our government refusing to defend our country and bleeding out over decades to defend somebody else’s.

  211. @Ash Williams

    All this fuss over such a little thing.

  212. @syonredux

    It will be a great day for civilization when medical science figures out what goes wrong to create homosexuals and we can put an end to it.

    • Agree: Kevin O'Keeffe
    • Replies: @Jack D
  213. @nebulafox

    Agreed. Nothing good comes out of that part of the world, ever. I’m not naive as to what the consequences of the US leaving the Middle East will be …

    … That’s what is maddening about Trump. He stumbles by accident onto the right things sometimes, but chooses to go flying down the road in the opposite direction from what logic would dictate: listening to the same K-street boys who have driven the USA into a ditch.

    Well said.

    Trump–to his credit–realized that our “elites” were screwing the American people, with pretty much every “consensus” policy choice. Mass immigration–driving down wages, driving up housing, balkanizign the nation–industry to China, pointless foreign wars, infrastructure decaying to 2nd rate.

    But then has the ego and attention span of a toddler. Easily distracted off into these “whose dick is bigger” squabbles, instead of following through on his MAGA campaign. I knew Trump was Trump, but i was still hoping for better than this.

    Sorry, but the middle east … does not matter. (It seems to matter to some alt-right people here who ought to know better.)

    Priorities like the Wall, E-verify, killing the “refugee” racket, “muslim ban, the H1B scam and pushing administratively and legislatively toward a moratorium … those are the things Trump can which will actually make my descendants’ lives much, much better. All while disentangling and spending our money on concrete projects benefiting middle class Americans.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @nebulafox
  214. anon[531] • Disclaimer says:
    @Feric Jaggar

    I cite, therefore I am.

  215. Are we still allowed to notice that folks of sub-Saharan descent have lips sized, and noses shaped, different from the statistical norms of the Europid populace? What about the whole skin color thing? Does that still exist anymore, or do we get fired for noticing-on-social-media that the Congolese are darker than the Estonians?

    Just asking for a friend….

    • Replies: @anon
  216. @vhrm

    anyhow, 4 plates!

    What’s his ass-to-grass shart record? I can’t find the Esquire article.

  217. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    I’m not so sure. While (male) homosexual sex acts are repulsive to me in the same way that I find eating insects to be repulsive, there must be some evolutionary function to homosexuality that we perhaps don’t understand or it wouldn’t persist. And messing with stuff that we don’t understand can be dangerous – you might think that you’re fixing one thing and you break something else that is much worse.

    And they make damn good interior decorators, etc. I think getting rid of gays would leave an empty spot in Western culture. Then again I think the same thing about Jews, so don’t trust me.

  218. @anonymous

    That’s why I asked if they were Olympic (2″ diameter hole) plates. I’ve always trained with, and preferred, Standard (1″ bar diameter).

    York’s webpage for 1 inch standard contour cast-iron plate has what I would expect (i.e., 50lb).

    https://yorkbarbell.com/product/1-inch-standard-contour-cast-iron-plate/

    Oddly, York’s standard range also has 35lb, which is Not Who We Are: in my day it was all very predictable: 2.5/5/10/25/50 with the occasional weird-brand 15lb-er just lying around.

    35lb shows that heresy has run amok and that the End Times have started.

    By contrast, Olympic (with the 2″ hole) are kg-based per the IWF standard – so “45lb” is probably actually a 20kg plate.

    Eleiko plates (the colour-coded, rubber-coated ‘bumper’ plates) are absolutely, certainly kg-based. And Eleiko bars are 20kg (for the 6′ comp bar).

    20kg is only a squooch over 44lb, cheaters.

    So there’s kinda no such thing as a genuine 45lb Olympic weight plate… is what I’m getting at.

    People who sticky-tape 8 pretend-45lb plates together on a 6′ Olympic bar, are lifting 9lb lighter than they claim.

    That’s a 2% overstatement – like a guy 5’10½ claiming to be 6′: we all know in our heart of hearts that those fuckers ought to go straight to the camps.

    To think, back in the day we would consider it cheating if anyone used a 6′ Standard bar with no collars, and counted it as 30lb (when it’s a bit less than 25).

    Broscience has resulted in a fall in standards, is what I’m sayin’.

    (I’ve had the reverse problem: I bought what claimed to be 12.5 and 25kg kettlebells, put them on my scale, and they were 25lb and 50lb respectively. Russian meddling, almost certainly).

  219. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    We have our own oil. We don’t need theirs.

    This is not the way energy markets work. There is a single world price for oil. Whether we are domestically self-sufficient or not, something that affects the price of oil (e.g. Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz) will have a big effect on the price that you pay at the pump.

    It really looks as if the world is headed toward the exit on the use of petroleum. Its main use is as a motor fuel and the shift to electric is probably inevitable now. But we are going to need it for at least the next 30 years or so. The idea that we can just pack up out of that region and leave Iran as the regional power is a fantasy. It won’t end happily for America, at least not unless the regime of the mullahs is overthrown. They are just too hostile to the West. We could live with Persia as a regional hegemon if it was the Persia of the Shahs, or maybe even the Persia of the socialists but not with the Persia of the mullahs who won the revolution.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @anon
  220. BenKenobi says:
    @Jack D

    I’m fairly agnostic on this whole Soleimani thing.

    But the fact that you, Jack D, have popped a total BONER since this guy was killed and it hasn’t gone down since indicates he wasn’t all that bad.

    • LOL: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Jack D
  221. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Yeah, child abuse must serve some evolutionary purpose, because it’s not like random mutations and high-tech civilization can create the evolutionary equivalent of a damp corner where the mildew is never dealt with.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  222. anon[446] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Just asking for a friend….

  223. @Polynikes

    A general of a hostile nation covertly in territory US forces control.

    Soleimani arrived in Iraq on a commercial flight (Cham Wings), having sought and obtained approval for his visit from the government of Iraq. There is no visa-free travel between Iran and Iraq, although he had diplomatic status, which is a different thing. He was due to meet with the Iraqi Prime Minister later that day.

    How did you not know that? What part of that is ‘covert’?

    Are you retarded? Why did you choose to write ‘covert’?

  224. @Mr. Anon

    You allowed Jack to get away with changing the course of the discussion as well as not answering your question.

  225. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    Iran is icily pragmatic.

    Yeah, they’re practically Prussians or Vulcans.

    No they ain’t. The mullahs are religious fanatics who are willing to die as martyrs. In the Iran-Iraq war they would do WWI style human wave attacks.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @anon
  226. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    Child abuse and homosexuality are not the same thing. And child abuse can be heterosexual too – we are not trying to find the cure for heterosexuality just because heterosexual child abusers exist.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  227. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Smithsonian_6

    As the recent British general election proved, winning on Twitter is not the same as winning power

    Perhaps you haven’t noticed just how Woke the Tories are these days? It was the Tories who pushed through homosexual marriage.

    Politics has changed. We are now ruled by an unholy alliance of the greed-is-good Economic Right and the degenerate Cultural Left. Anyone who thinks that the victory of Boris Johnson is a victory for actual old-fashioned conservative values is living in a dream world.

  228. @Anon

    Both currently in the “history catching up to them” dormant period.

    You’ve aged well, Steve.

  229. @J.Ross

    lol

    • Replies: @Jack D
  230. vhrm says:
    @Kratoklastes

    Yeah, I’m talking about Olympic plates, the ones with the 2″ hole and the bar that has rotating sleeves on the end. ( The default men’s bar is 28mm so ~1.1 inches)

    The “standard” plates and bar (with the 1″ hole) i think are as you describe, with 50lbs plates instead.

  231. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    >(e.g. Iran closing the Strait of Hormuz)

    And if they do that, then what? The US Navy will blow them out of the water. Tehran knows that.

    The only way that doesn’t happen is if the US suffers enough internal fracture that it cannot project power effectively anymore… and a good way of increasing the odds of getting that is exacerbating America’s fiscal issues by playing warlord in the Middle East.

    >It really looks as if the world is headed toward the exit on the use of petroleum. Its main use is as a motor fuel and the shift to electric is probably inevitable now.

    Build the damned nuclear plants already, like China is. That way, politicos can’t even advance false arguments related to our national interests to peddle Middle Eastern adventurism on the behalf of donors and foreign countries.

    > The idea that we can just pack up out of that region and leave Iran as the regional power is a fantasy. It won’t end happily for America, at least not unless the regime of the mullahs is overthrown. They are just too hostile to the West.

    I don’t buy that. This isn’t the 1980s anymore, anymore than it is the 1960s in China. Iran is specifically hostile to four countries, two of which aren’t Western and another one is pseudo-Western on a good day. The Iranians get along with the EU just fine, their involvement in assassinations on European (and Indian, South American, African, Thai… other countries they have relations-as normal as it can get for a regime like that-with) territory notwithstanding. Like the USSR and China, the revolutionary phase is over. It is deeply telling that Soleimani is most widely loathed in the Arab World-and with good reason considering his activities there.

    It is a nasty regime that pathologically lies to the world, and people whining about what Trump just did neglect the fact that Soleimani has been a legitimate military target through at least Bush and Obama as well through his open targeting of American military personnel. But that is not the same thing as an apocalyptic desire to set the world on fire with a conflict of civilizations. Even Soleimani, probably in charge of the hardest line organization in Tehran and well known for his hatred of Jews and disdain of America, was pragmatic enough to be willing to cooperate with the US for a brief while in ’01-’03 when he saw it was in Tehran’s interests to do so. And it is precisely because the mullahs understand they can never “win” a direct conflict with the US that they invest in the tactics that they do.

    (Really, this whole topic reveals just how harshly history is going to judge Bush’s foreign policy. Quds wouldn’t have had the chance to kill so many Americans had we not ejected Saddam and laid the groundwork for Iran’s dominance over Iraq by booting the Ba’athists out, to say nothing of the Axis of Evil blunder that helped kibosh Crocker’s work with Soleimani. They hate us, we hate them, but we still had weirdly aligning interests in Afghanistan, strangely enough.)

    • Replies: @Jack D
  232. @Svigor

    Amen Svigor. Sadly US has no comparable sacrifice.

    This is indeed one of those “oh shit” moment’s, sorta like the heart attack I had about Crimea\Ukraine when THAT shit went down.

  233. vhrm says:
    @Wade

    Your biggest problem with that statement, and all that it implies about our society (the fact that he’s gainfully employed as a highly visible journalist), is how he characterized his squat capacity?

    Well, as a journalist he should communicate accurately. It’s core to the job. 🙂

    As to the rest of it… it’s not my cup of tea and i don’t think it should be celebrated/encouraged to the degree it is… but we are “the land of the free” …

  234. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    >child abuse and homosexuality are not the same thing
    Legally correct, biologically wrong. Pedophilia is homosexual reproduction.

    • Replies: @Yngvar
  235. Marty says:
    @BB753

    Don’t know where you get your information. I used to know a Genovese guy who told me, “Italians don’t swing the heavy lumber.”

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @BB753
  236. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Evaluating Iran by its mullahs or its peasants is like making a serious analysis of Israel taking the intelligence of inbred haredi shut-ins as representative of Nobel laureates. Iran has the smartest people in the area (now, after Israel), and did for millennia. Yes, yes, the mullahs are idiots. We were scared of QS because he wasn’t.
    —–
    Rumor, being taken seriously by checkmarks but there’s no footage: Iran is bombarding the general area of American installations in Iraq with their copies of Soviet scuds. They’re replaying “The War of the Cities” but against an opponent whose missiles are much more accurate.
    When I heard that Arab rocketeers tossed the gimbals and gyroscopes so that more fuel could mean more range, even if aiming was now pointing and hoping, I refused to believe it (the source was a good but kosher SNCO who also said that we should kill Arab children because it would briefly shock the adults into paralysis). Then I read credible sources talking about it, first in a Pakistani military journal’s analysis of Saddam’s rocket truck hiding campaign, then I think it’s mentioned in Hiro’s Longest War. American missiles on the other hand are both accurate and numerous enough to wastefully self-correct. How many cultural sites is Iran wiling to lose?

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  237. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    there must be some evolutionary function to homosexuality that we perhaps don’t understand or it wouldn’t persist.

    You might give some consideration to the idea that any heritable source of it is a weak vector.

  238. nebulafox says:
    @AnotherDad

    >It will be a great day for civilization when medical science figures out what goes wrong to create homosexuals and we can put an end to it.

    No. I think there’s a reason homosexuality has always been around and will never go away. It is a variant of nature, neither intrinsically good nor bad, and has the potential to work toward societal interests occasionally. Just to cite one example: I don’t think Da Vinci would have done what he did if he became just another Florentine rotary, married, and had kids. Being an illegitimate, unschooled, skeptical homosexual-aka, someone who was not “normal”-probably helped fuel his brilliance.

    Do I think that is necessary to be brilliant? No, absolutely not. Sexuality is completely uncorrelated with intelligence or creativity. But not being likely to have kids means you need to find some other raison d’etre with your life, which can either be wonderful, or horrible depending on the person and culture.

    >But then has the ego and attention span of a toddler. Easily distracted off into these “whose dick is bigger” squabbles, instead of following through on his MAGA campaign. I knew Trump was Trump, but i was still hoping for better than this.

    The real problem is that he’s completely discrediting nationalism through his aggressive immaturity and self-absorption, even on politician standards. I think it’ll be temporary given that the globalists have learned absolutely nothing and forgotten absolutely nothing (thus leading to ham-handed policies that will court backlash) from the whole Trump experience, but it’ll be real.

    It is true that Trump’s personality and outright comical past is a hard sell. Even people who voted for him openly admitted that they were doing so in spite of it, not because of it. You can imagine the effect it has on the type of person you’ll need in order to enforce real ideological change in DC. But the real problem is less his personality than that the man is totally stateless. He was at his best in the debates when his opponents were so visibly out of touch with reality-Jeb Bush on the Middle East, for example-that he could go on a sheer WTF reaction and achieve an emperor has no clothes effect, but that didn’t mean he had any deeper thoughts or focus for more than 5 minutes on the subject.

    >Priorities like the Wall, E-verify, killing the “refugee” racket, “muslim ban, the H1B scam and pushing administratively and legislatively toward a moratorium … those are the things Trump can which will actually make my descendants’ lives much, much better. All while disentangling and spending our money on concrete projects benefiting middle class Americans.

    But even there: the wall is a dumb idea, IMO. You can crack down on illegal immigration far more effectively by instituting E-Verify and making life absolute hell for people who dare to hire illegal immigrants. It’d be far cheaper, and far more difficult for the Usual Suspects to try to manipulate the emotions of some of the American public.

    The whole focus on illegal immigration is myopic, to an extent: the real problem is with the sheer levels of immigration (especially of the unskilled variant) that our elites utterly insist on having, despite the decreasing opportunities that many Americans are facing with an increasingly automated economy, to say nothing of exacerbating the modern American tendency for rentier economics and the institutionalized insanity of the chain migration system and the diversity lottery. It’s a basic supply and demand question. I’m far from a hardline anti-immigrant dude-my own ideal would be one that focuses on extracting the top scientists from places like Iran or Russia or (before recently, now the job prospects are better in China) China, while maybe saying no to the 10 millionth Guatemalan peasant-but the USA is a finite place with a finite amount of jobs available, and we have a duty first and foremost to citizens like any other country in the world. If the oligarchs and bien-pensants don’t like it, too damned bad. It’s that simple. Caplan’s America would be a dystopia for anybody besides the top 10% of our economy.

    Had Trump made these points coherently in 2015 and 2016 rather than going for the flame-bait on Muslim bans or walls, and moreover not tried to appease a flailing GOP on economic questions, he probably could have had a much more resounding victory over Hillary. Which would be kind of useful when Democrats argue he’s an illegitimate President.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
  239. Jack D says:
    @BenKenobi

    I’m also glad that Hitler and Stalin are dead. Castro, bin Laden, Uday and Qusay – they’re all on my shit list. Do you like them better now too? I could list some more people for you to like if you wish…. Beria, Himmler…

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @BenKenobi
  240. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    I misunderstood, I thought we were supposed to leave the Middle East entirely according to your advice. Apparently we are supposed to keep our sea power intact?

    Look at Cuba, look at N. Korea , look at the USSR – long after the revolutionary phase is over, the bitter aftertaste remains, for as long as the winners of the revolution still sit on the throne.

    I don’t buy the idea that they are puppy dogs now. Puppy dogs who just dropped missiles on our bases in Iraq.

    That being said, the Iranians know how to send signals. Hopefully the signal here is “we’ve had our “revenge”. Now bomb some of our missile launchers and we’ll both call it a day for now.” It would have been better, from their POV, to have killed some Americans with their missiles (any number will do, even just a couple). Until the blood debt is repaid I don’t think they can quit.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
  241. Precious says:

    About all I can add to this conversation is that any scientific measuring of the penis should measure to the bone because if you don’t you are cheating fat men out of a precious centimeter or two and fat shaming is bad enough as it is.

  242. anon[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The idea that we can just pack up out of that region and leave Iran as the regional power is a fantasy. It won’t end happily for America Israel, at least not unless the regime of the mullahs is overthrown. They are just too hostile to the West Israel. We Israel could live with Persia as a regional hegemon if it was the Persia of the Shahs, or maybe even the Persia of the socialists but not with the Persia of the mullahs who won the revolution.

    FIFY.

  243. nebulafox says:
    @Jack D

    >I misunderstood, I thought we were supposed to leave the Middle East entirely according to your advice. Apparently we are supposed to keep our sea power intact?

    Why not? It isn’t like the Iranians have the ability come to whatever friendly naval port we’re in or to the Atlantic, and stop the US fleet from sailing there. At best, they can send some suicide torpedo missions out.

    The US conventionally outstrips everybody by a ridiculous margin. Our enemies have been aware of that for 30 years now. Other than China and (in the highly specialized case of nuclear war) Russia, I don’t think other powers *can* challenge the US conventionally, whether through soft or hard power, long-term: they simply lack the manpower and economic ability to do that. So, they aren’t bothering.

    I think preserving this ability is a GOOD thing, for both us and the world. Let’s then focus on getting our crap together so that we can, within reason, rather than engaging in the same failed policies that are further putting the United States in the fiscal and political hole, which increases the risk of us losing everything with the wrong series of events. It’s going to happen anyway: the American people are increasingly sick of the global policeman role even if our ruling elites aren’t, which will reflect in the eventual political candidates that end up in the White House.

    >Look at Cuba, look at N. Korea , look at the USSR – long after the revolutionary phase is over, the bitter aftertaste remains, for as long as the winners of the revolution still sit on the throne.

    Yes: for the people in those poor countries. But the USSR is gone, North Korea is an Imperial Japan-esque nutcase that is dangerous but managable, Cuba… does anybody pay attention to them outside of the IC? I think the mullahs will eventually disappear, too. But 1) I don’t think that’s going to stop a lot of the Iranian power politics that we’re hell-bent on containing and 2) one of the best ways of keeping the mullahs in power is confirming their propaganda on a yearly basis.

    The world is full of bad people doing bad things. There is a difference between those whose are bent on setting the world aflame and those who aren’t, even if they want the same goal, and they will subsequently bet met differently. Better a Stalin than a Trotsky. They both wanted world revolution and were willing to encourage it wherever they sought it. But one wanted to plunge the world into war over it, and one didn’t.

    >I don’t buy the idea that they are puppy dogs now. Puppy dogs who just dropped missiles on our bases in Iraq.

    Why do we have those bases anyway? Right or wrong, I’d punish anybody who dares shoot at an American, but that doesn’t mean I think Americans should be in the line of danger unless there’s a deeply pressing reason: and I don’t see any in Iraq. What strategic goal are we trying to achieve?

  244. anon[341] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    The mullahs are religious fanatics who are willing to die send other people to die as martyrs. In the Iran-Iraq war they would do sent many teenagers into WWI style human wave attacks.

    I could be wrong, but I believe the mullahs of Iran are not noted for leading from the front in any armed conflict. They have people to do that for them.

    Plus, it’s 2020, not 1980. This has real meaning because demographics.

    The Nazi Germans were known for sending herds of pigs into minefields. The Communist Soviets were known for sending herds of German and Italian POW’s into minefields. But nobody in WWII was so insane as to send their own 13 year old boys into minefields.

    Yet during the 80’s, the Islamic Republic of Iran was quite willing to take teenage and preteen boys, give them plastic shoes and a plastic key on a string, then send them out to run across Iraqi minefields in the hope some would clear a path. The plastic shoes maybe were to make detonation less likely. The plastic key was for the martyr to open the gates of Paradise with after getting his legs blown off & bleeding out in the minefield.

    The landscape was pretty close to a flat plain, like a billiard table. The Iraqi army had no problem with this tactic. It was quite a bit more suicidal than WW I “over the top” charges.

    I do not know how many Iranian boys were expended in this manner, but it must have been thousands. Maybe tens of thousands. How many of those boys would have married and had at least one child in the last 40 years? Even two or more?

    Iran’s TFR dropped below replacement back sometime in the 90’s and has not recovered. The mullahs no longer have a blank check on manpower, and possibly the 1980’s war with Iraq is one reason. The Mullahs were willing to fight to someone else’s last child.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    , @Anonymous
  245. @res

    What’s even funnier is if you don’t know the context that can be read two ways. Are we sure which she meant?

    Out of context, it means just one thing, which is the opposite of what she appears to be intending.

  246. There was some friendly banter in our gym some years back where black and white guys didn’t just compete in the amount of weights lifted, but joked about who won on genital size. Every black guy wasn’t shy about displaying his considerable assets in the change room, but the white guys were all shy and decorous for some reason. Except for Roy, a redneck who was among the strongest, and whose assets at rest dwarfed those of every black guy. He sure made up for what others may have lacked.

  247. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius

    Nasrallah always appears by telescreen from some bunker like Big Brother because if he comes up into the daylight the Israelis will pop a cap in his ass. Is it really worth doing this Hassan, if you have to live like a rat in a tunnel your whole life?

  248. @Anonymous

    Yeah, I agree. I just wonder how much “the gays” are really represented on the left and how much it is really Jewish lawyers ratcheting up divisions among the goyim. Wasn’t gay marriage pursued by Jewish lawyers? Doesn’t Sullivan describe himself as a conservative? The gay guys I knew in the 70’s would have puked at the thought of gay marriage. They thought of being gay as being free from such “bourgeois” institutions. Obviously things have changed I don’t even know any gays anymore but I wonder who they are considered as a whole and not defined by the left.

  249. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rob McX

    When you think about it, having a truly enormous penis is dysfunctional in that they just don’t fit into any woman’s vagina feasibly, thus defeating their own purpose. There are several such cases of this which are well known, such as Jonah Falcon. The late John Holmes was pretty much in this category for practical purposes: seasoned porn actresses had to “work up to it” and normal women fled in terror.

    There is a “sweet spot” here, to be visually impressive without being unmanageable.

    Several famous actresses and female celebrities are openly ” size queens” who admit they prefer and chase such members. This phenomenon goes back at least to the Old Testament, see Ezekiel 23:

    19 Yet she increased her whoring, remembering the days of her youth, when she played the whore in the land of Egypt 20 and lusted after her lovers there, whose members were like those of donkeys, and whose issue was like that of horses. 21 Thus you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when the Egyptians handled your bosom and pressed[c] your young breasts.”

  250. Mr. Anon says:
    @Johann Ricke

    So why have the f**king Constitution at all, if the actual text of it means nothing? We aren’t fighting Barbary Pirates. We’re gearing up to fight a country that is allied with Russia and China.

  251. Mr. Anon says:
    @Jack D

    Congress has not declared a war since December, 1941 but we’ve had several. Article I, Section 8 gives Congress the power not only to declare war but also to “grant letters of marque and reprisal”. I think you can consider the whole section to be obsolete as a practical matter – that’s just not how things are done anymore in the modern world.

    You may consider it a dead letter. I don’t. Go find yourself another country, if you don’t like the fundmental laws of this one. So the 1st Amerndment? Also negotiable? I have no interest in negotiating with people who think everything is negotiable.

    Were we in a state of war with Iran when Soleimani was sending EFP’s to blow up American troops in Iraq? When he plotted to blow up the Saudi Ambassador in Washington? I would say that Iran has been fighting a covert or cold war with the US pretty much continuously since 1979. They don’t exactly try to hide their hatred of the Great Satan – it’s “Death to America” all the time. For various domestic political and practical considerations, we’ve pretended not to notice their provocations and they have always been pretty careful to act thru proxies and in a way that would preserve deniability for them.

    And yet they don’t act on it much. They are fighting a proxy war in Iraq into which we got in the middle. If we hadn’t deposed Saddam Hussein in the first place, none of this would have been an issue.

    But Trump is not the kind of guy who is into polite diplomatic fictions.

    No, he’s a blowhard and a moron, who surrounded himself with people who are diametrically opposed to virtually every issue he ran on.

    I noticed you conveniently ignored Bibi’s statement – America? America who? Never heard of the place.

    Nobody who is paying attention (including you) thinks that this is anything other than foreign powers using America as their bitch to fight the wars they don’t want to fright themselves.

  252. J.Ross says:

    >is it worth it if you have to live like a rat in a tunnel your whole life?

    https://postimg.cc/hhbT2zMp

    https://postimg.cc/cKn8wrr7

    https://postimg.cc/k2VVPBFr

    • Replies: @Jack D
  253. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Are you glad that Qaddafy and Saddam are dead?

  254. @Smithsonian_6

    I wish I could take some solace in this, but the reason the British general election went the way it did is most Brits don’t have Twitter. On matters where the majority of the electorate need not be consulted, like say, removing Confederate memorials, sacralizing mentally ill transsexuals, enabling Satanist child molesters, privileging the melanin-rich, installing and celebrating ersatz marriages, persecuting Christian businesses and unguilty whites generally, etc. etc., Twitter not only foresees the future, it organizes, creates and accelerates the future. It is not just for convenience and spite that dissent is banned from the platform. They also don’t want dissenters listening too closely or offering too much resistance as plans are laid, stories are coordinated, and strategies prepared.

    Ten years ago, the Left used private listservs, like the 400-member Journolist, to decide and organize what would be their next target, what coordinated lies they would tell, and what legal jujitsu and PR infamy they would inflict on their victims. Nowadays, they do this more or less publicly. While one might think this would lead to their exposure and discrediting, it has worked the opposite way. Now instead of a mere 400 limp wristed journalists, they call on the protean power of what Steve calls the Volunteer Auxiliary Thought Police, in their thousands and tens of thousands. You see them do this? So what. They own the megaphone and the platform and you don’t.

    Just as secretive Bilderberg has given way to more open Davos and increased its influence, secretive Journolist has given way to more open Twitter and increased its influence. And it turns out an engaged and fanatical minority can accomplish quite a lot without ever seeking majority consent. And just in case they ever do need majority consent, they are working on manufacturing that too.

    • Replies: @syonredux
  255. @J.Ross

    Icy pragmatism? Trump might launch 52 cruise missiles for every 1 Iranian rocket.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  256. Lot says:
    @Anon

    I got it at the archive.org version of isteve.com.

    That should be a permanent place for it.

    I think imgur deletes photos after a few years unless they are making money serving ads on them.

  257. syonredux says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I wish I could take some solace in this, but the reason the British general election went the way it did is most Brits don’t have Twitter.

    Dunno. The stats for the USA and UK look fairly similar:

    As of August 2016, about 17 percent of adults in the United Kingdom used Twitter daily

    https://www.statista.com/statistics/278320/age-distribution-of-twitter-users-in-great-britain/

    According to a PEW survey, 22% of American adults use Twitter:

    https://www.pewresearch.org/internet/2019/04/24/sizing-up-twitter-users/

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  258. Dan Smith says:

    For fifteen years the medical practice I belonged to conducted physical exams every year on an NFL team. We also examined every player who joined the team during the year. In pre-season, typically, we saw 70-80 athletes. My share was around ten. I guess at least half the players were black. I have no doubt that black male football players have significantly larger penises than white players.

  259. J.Ross says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    >Iranians aren’t pragmatic
    >illustration: tweet of Iranians withdrawing before they justify a nuke
    Mr O’Brien of the Aryan Union hopes in all seriousness that you don’t.
    (Compared to Arabs, generally over history, and especially compared to the CIA’s Arab Legion, it’s a perfectly responsible and evidenced statement. Zeroing in on one major pattern-breaking event presided over by the unforeseeable Mule, yeah, this looks wierd. But maybe it’s [dons Foreigner belt as sunglasses] cold as ice. Iran cannot just back straight down, they have to beat their chest for their little audiences in the region. But neither did they pull another Lockerbie here [the Ukranian plane looks like mechanical trouble, it was a 737, and it was inside Iran]. Consider a possibly fake tweet from Classic Abigail’s little brother [paraphrase]: good, they got it out of their system, now it’s over.)

  260. Hail says: • Website
    @Mr. Anon

    I voted for disengagement from the mideast and its endless proxy wars

    Yes. So did the rest of the core Trump base.

    I don’t think any part of DJT’s core base, the one with him from the beginning, the one that made him the most unlikely president in history, that took him through the all-critical primaries, were pro-intervention or pro-Empire. They were all (and certainly his activist wing was) against the endless/pointless wars; they all cheered when he said “No more policing the world; we need to take care of America first; end the stupid wars.”

    It’s not an encouraging commentary on human psychology that a good many of these same White-Christians* are now in the Sean Hannity camp of loudly beating the war drums.

    ___

    * – (this is to say, those of us without some ethnoreligious reason to care about which faction has more or less relative power in which Mesopotamian province and what that means for this-or-that other neighboring ethnic-religious groups.)

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Mr. Anon
  261. @Jack D

    I too wonder about this. I do not desire a new Iranian War, but as I understand it, Soleimani was a military leader fighting against the US, so therefore he was a legitimate target of the US. Of course it is not at all clear to me why US troops are in Iraq to get attacked by Soleimani’s troops in the first place, but that part was already decided, so it’s irrelevant here. The US military is killing lots of people all the time in Mesopotamia, but now that it has killed a general instead of some hapless militiaman, it is suddenly beyond the pale? It is as if the global commentariat have suddenly simultaneously come down with an acute case of Droit du Seigneur: only a king shall kill a king. To be whacked by a drone missile is beneath the dignity of a General!

    Maybe there is some legalistic nuance that escapes me, like that Soleimani was in Iraq at the invitation of an Iraqi commander who was nominally an ally of the US, so this was a violation of diplomatic safe passage, but if so, I haven’t heard anyone mention it.

    Anyway, the whole thing seems baffling.

    • Agree: Jack D
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Hail
    , @nebulafox
  262. @Hail

    Are y’all competing to see how many bad takes you can come up with in the least amount of time?

    Really need to upgrade your information sources.

    Trump doesn’t get elected if some faction of the empire doesn’t think it helps them. He doesn’t stay in power if he doesn’t keep some part onside. That only changes with a landslide.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  263. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    We’re getting pretty far afield now. Nasrallah is not Palestinian.

    Israel demolishes houses for various reasons – built without a permit , homes of suicide bombers, land condemned for public use, etc. Doing some of those things would get your house demolished anywhere. If, God forbid, Hamas came to rule Israel, what they would do to the Jewish inhabitants (the people, not just their houses) would be a thousand, no a million times worse. Just among the Arabs themselves, millions have been displaced from Syria and Iraq and this is what they do to people of their own religion. What they would do to the Jews is unimaginable.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  264. BenKenobi says:
    @Jack D

    Thank you for your service.

  265. @Almost Missouri

    Maybe there is some legalistic nuance that escapes me, like that Soleimani was in Iraq at the invitation of an Iraqi commander who was nominally an ally of the US, so this was a violation of diplomatic safe passage, but if so, I haven’t heard anyone mention it.

    Big if true.

  266. @syonredux

    Not sure what the point of the US comparison is, but it sounds like the US has proportionally 30% more Twitterers than the UK.

    My point was that 17% (or 22%) may or may not be enough to swing any given election, but it is certainly enough to recruit, organize and inspire lynch-type mobs large enough to undertake a variety of civilization wrecking activities. So I couldn’t share in Smithsonian_6‘s serenity about Twitter mobs.

  267. Hail says: • Website
    @Almost Missouri

    now that it has killed a general instead of some hapless militiaman, it is suddenly beyond the pale?

    Have you thought through the implications of the precedent here?

    That is to say, there are norms of how nations behave with each other. They are enforced by tradition and consensus, a kind of multi-genertional gentleman’s agreement. (e.g., No one used chemical weapons in the 1939 – 1945 war for that reason.)

    Do we want a world of normalized state-sponsored assassinations of foreign leaders in peacetime (“proxy wars,” whatever that nebulous concept means [and it seems to me it can mean nearly anything, really] do not count), do we want that to be the norm in international relations by the second quarter of this century?

    This was a bad, bad move; Tweetman might have felt, these past few days, the regret and shame he ought to. I can only hope.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Almost Missouri
  268. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius

    A. It’s not true.

    B. “Coming to deliver a message” does not necessarily make you a diplomat and therefore an “internationally protected person”. You have to have diplomatic credentials, etc.

    C. It’s not big. What are they going to do, try Trump in the ICC?

    D. Being concerned about the treatment of diplomats is rich coming from someone in the Iranian Republican Guard, wouldn’t you say?

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  269. @Desiderius

    Okay, so now I have heard someone mention it.

    Still, it doesn’t seem to be the take that is dominating the airwaves. Instead the take is more like, “A man of Soleimani’s stature should not be rubbed out by a drone.”

    The fact that a hokey objection is predominating when a legitimate objection is supposedly available, does make me wonder if this diplomatic mission narrative isn’t a retcon to make the assassination seem more dastardly.

    As you say, big if true.

    And even if true, did the Iraqi military notify the US military that Soleimani was being accorded safe passage? If not, that was a bit of an oversight. Maybe it is a question the US intel should have asked given that Soleimani was travelling through a normal transportation hub, but if he was a legitimate target at any other time, the onus is on anyone who claims he was not a legitimate target at this moment.

    From a purely pragmatic point of view, the assassination seems … inefficient for MAGA goals, but then efficacy has never been a hallmark of this administration.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  270. @Jack D

    Read the thread. I can tell you haven’t.

    BTW, here’s Trump’s base (and the guy who has Trump’s ear):

  271. Jack D says:
    @Hail

    It’s not going to be the norm. If the Iranians try this we’ll level Tehran. Saddam did less and ended up on the gallows. We can do this because we are the superior military power. They can’t – if they try it once, it will be the last time.

    Iran is not a normal nation, they are a rogue state and Soleimani was the leader of a terrorist organization. We are not going to start firing missiles at the Dutch ambassador – this was a special case. We are not at peace with Iran -they had just attacked our embassy and Gen. S. was there to plan more attacks with his pro-Iranian militia buddy who went down with him, the “diplomatic mission” cover story is bullshit. If you believe that, I have a bridge that I want to sell you. Norms of diplomacy exist for reasons of reciprocity -there is no reciprocity with Iran -they have already shown that they do not respect diplomatic norms. Trump regrets nothing, nor should he. If nothing else, this has taken the focus off the BS impeachment nonsense.

  272. nebulafox says:
    @Almost Missouri

    It’s not: anybody who states that Soleimani was some generic “foreign official” doesn’t know what they are talking about. Given the record of Iranian intelligence flagrantly engaging in assassination around the globe, including an attempt to hire a drug cartel to kill the Saudi ambassador on US soil in 2011, as well as their involvement in the IUD-related deaths and dismemberment of who-knows-how-many US personnel, the hypocrisy reeks to high heaven.

    According to my old man, part of the answer as to why he hasn’t been iced before was simply a lack of good, pinpoint intelligence in tracking him down. Soleimani was a spy chief, not a dictator or a diplomat: he didn’t exactly travel with a giant noticeable convoy. Trump saw an opportunity he liked and took it.

    As for the why, Occam’s Razor: Trump is Trump. Maybe he thought it’d send the right message to the Iranians as a bluff in order to get the Iranians to sit down and talk like the North Koreans. Launching unpredictable, erratic attacks in order to try and force a peaceful deal afterwards is trademark Donaldian behavior. Or Maybe it was a play to appease hardline anti-Iranian Republicans on the Hill with the impeachment noises. Maybe it was just a way to play the tough guy for the 2020 election. Maybe a combination of all three.

    I don’t exactly buy that he’s been duped by the neocons. Whatever Trump’s flaws-and there are many-on foreign policy, when left to his own devices, like Obama before him, his heart clearly just isn’t into regime change for its own sake. If that weren’t the case, he’d have launched Operation SYRIAN FREEDOM years ago with full-hearted bipartisan encouragement. But currying favor with hardline Permanent War crowd? That’s definitely plausible. Jacking up troop levels in Iraq as a response to the assassination is a good sign of that. With the crush BDS movement picking up steam, it’s also pretty clear that the AIPAC goons who insist that Iran is the second coming of Nazi Germany are also in force on the Hill, and Kushner/Ivanka can always be relied upon as a conduit for their views…

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Desiderius
  273. Mr. Anon says:
    @Desiderius

    This had nothing to do with self-defense, you braying horse’s ass.

  274. Mr. Anon says:
    @Hail

    It’s not an encouraging commentary on human psychology that a good many of these same White-Christians* are now in the Sean Hannity camp of loudly beating the war drums.

    Indeed. How anybody could listen to Hannity’s canned slogans and take him to be anything other than a shill, a stooge, and a clown is a mystery to me.

  275. @Hail

    “Have you thought through the implications of the precedent here?”

    Yes, actually. In fact I rather approve of belligerent leaders killing each other directly rather than involving millions of their pawns in mass slaughter on their way to maybe putting the other guy in dock for “crimes against humanity” a few years later. This should make said leaders much less belligerent, or at least make the belligerent ones much more scarce.

    “Do we want a world of normalized state-sponsored assassinations of foreign leaders in peacetime”

    Supposedly, we are not at peace. Yes, I know we haven’t had a proper traditional Declaration of War since 1941, but Korea, Vietnam and Iraq each featured the President going to Congress and seeking some kind of “authorization”, no matter how lame. Yes, I agree that feels like a hollow and cheap version of a true Constitutional Declaration, but if we are considering these “authorizations” illegitimate, then we have to consider every casualty inflicted since 1945 illegitimate, and, so far as I can see, no one is saying that, so they can’t suddenly say this one casualty was illegitimate without also objecting to all the prior ones.

    Now, should Trump have pushed the button on this guy? Maybe, maybe not. But that is from a pragmatic cost/benefit point of view, not from a legal or moral one.

    P.S. I’m up against the new commenting ceiling, so I probably can’t manage any more replies until another day.

    • Agree: Precious
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  276. Jack D says:
    @nebulafox

    Soleimani was some generic “foreign official”

    Oh, he’s been promoted way beyond that. He was a diplomat on a peace mission! He was an aspiring rapper who was about to enroll in college. Oh, wait, that’s someone else’s BS story.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    , @Johann Ricke
  277. anon[207] • Disclaimer says:

    @Almost Missouri @nebulafox @Jack. D. etc.

    Hey, stick to the topic. What does all this have to do with Biggus Dickus?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  278. J.Ross says:
    @Desiderius

    I am so tired of all the people who sucked Dronemaster Obama’s toes waking up and remembering stupid dead letter laws which were unenforced in far more egregious circumstances.
    Iran: [gurgle] You have no right to do this! This is a diplomatic mission!
    Darth Trumpius: [breathing and tweeting sounds] If this is a diplomatic mission, then where is the ambassador?
    Iran: [gurgle] uhh … we have concluded our response and are going to bed.

    • LOL: Jack D
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  279. J.Ross says:
    @Jack D

    Indeed, when our masters decide that we should live like a rat, we live like a rat, because our masters have decided it. Maybe our masters didn’t even want it that way, or maybe they changed their minds but becane very busy and forgot. But it’s never our decision.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  280. @nebulafox

    Troop levels haven’t been jacked up.

  281. @Almost Missouri

    Well said.

    You get three comments per hour per thread.

  282. @Almost Missouri

    The airwaves are garbage and we’re getting to the point that a critical mass knows it.

    Another part of Trump’s base:

    https://t.co/Q4Yn6LvhT0?amp=1

  283. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Marty

    Don’t know where you get your information. I used to know a Genovese guy who told me, “Italians don’t swing the heavy lumber.

    Rocco Siffredi would be surprised. (Is it coincidence by the way that Madge named her only begotten son “Rocco”? )

    Amongst conventional show biz types, Sinatra and Dean Martin were said to be big, and in sports, DiMaggio as well. One of the most notorious guys in the music business was NY session guitarist David Spinozza, who was famous for showing his massive unit off during studio sessions. Those were different times, of course.

  284. @anon

    Yet during the 80’s, the Islamic Republic of Iran was quite willing to take teenage and preteen boys, give them plastic shoes and a plastic key on a string, then send them out to run across Iraqi minefields in the hope some would clear a path. The plastic shoes maybe were to make detonation less likely

    Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of discovering a path? If the mines don’t detonate due to special lightness of children how does that make a safe path for adults?

    • Replies: @anon
  285. @Anon

    It almost appears as if I’m happier to be in Mrs. Thatcher’s presence than vice-versa.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  286. @Thomas

    Or “discredited”. I’ve had several occasions when I was reading something and some study or book was referred to as “discredited”. Sure enough, when you follow the link to the cited source, it’s just someone else calling it discredited, and so on. If you follow the citations for a couple more links, you eventually get to the original source of the discreditation, and what do you find? A study presenting an alternative theory? A critical piece pointing out flaws in the methodology? Nope. Just someone calling the author a racist.

  287. @bigdicknick

    This is actually often true for how the NY Times covers race. I remember reading an article on health outcome disparities and it was just like “because of the legacy of slavery black people are more like to die of xxx,” just like a throw away line suggesting causation with zero evidence or citations. Sullivan’s tactic is actually pretty interesting. Just being like “hey, I noticed you made the following empirical claim, where is that data?”

  288. Brutusale says:
    @bigdicknick

    I would hazard a guess that white males with large dongs are a bit more circumspect about entering a career where they make less than the women, contracting life-changing diseases is a constant threat, and the “career” is a lot shorter than their dong.

    As Kumar says, just because you’re hung like a moose doesn’t mean you have to do porn.

    • Replies: @bigdicknick
    , @Anonymous
  289. Bill says:
    @Jack D

    Glad we can agree that right and wrong didn’t enter into the decision.

  290. @anon

    LOL!

    Yeah, it’s crazy right? Steve sets up a perfect thread on racist penises, and instead the thread gets hijacked by some of the regulars discussing geopolitics.

    What a world!

    Ron did say he wants to enforce penalties for off-topic posting, so I guess we better watch our backs.

    Okay, back to the dongs now…

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  291. @Steve Sailer

    Don’t sell yourself short. There’s a twinkle in that eye. She sensed the Revenge of the Nerds was coming and wanted as many behind her as she could get. If only her successors had done likewise.

  292. @Almost Missouri

    That Serwer/Sullivan thread is sobering. Sully all but declares his love for Big Brother. Next to that geopolitics is light reading.

  293. @J.Ross

    MacIntyre is legit. He’s no Obama fan.

    The former PM he’s quoting is though, so highly unlikely there is anything there. If there is though the law he’s talking about is the opposite of dead letter. In that case we’re probably looking at some kind of deep state set-up. .01% chance Trump knew and said fuck it.

  294. anon[330] • Disclaimer says:
    @kaganovitch

    Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of discovering a path? If the mines don’t detonate due to special lightness of children how does that make a safe path for adults?

    Something about magnetic trigger, maybe, I dunno. Point is, the Mullahs of 40 years back were just fine with wasting the lives of their own countrymen, but not even leading from the front. Now they don’t even have the kind of excess manpower to do stupid stuff like that. It shows retardation in the Iranian leadership that might continue to this day.

    Maybe the mullahs were too busy with their VHS porn studying BBC to think clearly. And isn’t that what this thread is all about?

  295. Ragno says:

    Have you looked at “Ida Bae”‘s Twitter bio?

    Reporter @nytmag covering race from 1619-present//AKA The Beyoncé of Journalism//Co-founder http://idabwellssociety.org //smart and thuggish//#1619Project

    So much for the Paper of Record. Politics notwithstanding, once upon a time the NYT was world-famous for being conservative in demeanor. That reputation was largely debunked by the turn of the century, but it’s still scary to see how quickly they’ve circled the drain, and how determined they were to do so, once Carlos showed up. Like a wise man once said: Mexico is wherever Mexicans are.

    • Replies: @anon
  296. Jack D says:
    @J.Ross

    Sure it is. All Nasrallah has to do is give up Jew killing and he could live like a normal human. Is that too much to ask?

  297. Ian Smith says:
    @Desiderius

    We tried our best. The deck was stacked against Rhodesia even worse than South Africa. Both countries are canaries in the coal mine. They’re both done. The UK, however, still has time to avoid becoming a province of Pakistan.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @Desiderius
  298. dr kill says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    My guess is AS prefers to measure by displacement, personally.

  299. Prosa123 says:

    I can’t understand why so many men hate gay men. From a straight male perspective gay men are like vegetarians at a barbecue: more for everyone else!

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @J.Ross
  300. Art Deco says:
    @Prosa123

    I think you’ve confused hatred and disgust.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @dfordoom
  301. Art Deco says:
    @Ian Smith

    Whites made up 4% of the population of Rhodesia. Not sustainable, long term.

    • Agree: Ian Smith
  302. Anonymous[352] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    The Chinese did the same during the Korean War. They didn’t stop advancing when they encountered minefields but rolled right over them, considering casualties from mines to be no different than casualties from bullets and shells.

  303. @Brutusale

    im sure that is a factor as well, but there are tons of people of all races who unfortunately don’t have great career prospects regardless of race.

  304. @Anonymous

    “who would not bake gay wedding cakes.” That reads real funny. Are they rainbow colored? Are they limp in some areas and hard in others? I know what you mean, but WTF is a gay wedding cake, right?

  305. Svigor says:
    @Dan

    US military is an American force that works exclusively outside America. So…

    @Jack

    The tensions that Soleimani was supposedly there to discuss (he wasn’t) were ones that he himself had created. If an arsonist shows up at a fire scene with a bucket of water, he gets no credit because he’s the one who lit the fire in the first place.

    All they’ve talked about is how many American military personnel his troops killed in Iraq.

    So it’s OK for Soleimani’s soldiers to kill American soldiers but we’re not allowed to kill him back? How does that work?

    Did you weep for Soleimani like Khameinei did? My eyes stayed dry.

    So the US narrative is 100% bullshit. Soleimani wasn’t a terrorist, and we didn’t bomb a terrorist. He was an enemy general, and we bombed an (“the” enemy general, apparently) enemy general, at a time when Iraq has been winding down. All this talk of atrocities and terrorism is bullshit.

    And all the talk of Iran as the boogeyman is bullshit, too. They never shot down an American airliner with 290 civilians on board, over our airspace. We did that to them. Basically the only Americans they kill are our military in Iraq, who have no more business being there than Iranian soldiers have invading and occupying Canada or Mexico.

  306. Svigor says:

    Saudi Arabia killed 3000 American civilians on 9/11 and they’re our “ally.” I don’t recall the Iranians ever doing anything like that to us. The Saudis export terrorist Wahhabism all across the Muslim world, not the Iranians. These are the apes carrying out terrorist attacks on Western countries, not Iran.

    Israel strafed the USS Liberty and killed dozens of our sailors while supposedly allied to us, not Iran. Israel carried out numerous terrorist attacks and false-flag attacks against Western forces during their founding. Iran never did anything like that, AFAIK.

    The worst American Pravda can ever hang on Iran is the Beirut Marine barracks bombing which 1 was against hostile occupying military personnel and 2 was in the middle of a civil war and 3 IIRC hasn’t a shred of proof to connect to Iran (Hezbollah is presumed to have carried it out and there’s speculation that it was Iran’s idea; an iron-clad case, it ain’t).

    Sounds like Saudi Arabia and Israel are bigger enemies to America than Iran is. Certainly sounds like they’re bigger terrorist threats to America.

    Let the Israelis fight their own battles. They’re the ones embroiled in a regional cold war against Iran, fighting alongside their bosom buddies, the terror-exporting Saudies. Not us.

    Anyone who thinks American troops are safer in Iraq now than they were before Soleimani was killed, raise your hand. K, put your hands down. Now raise your hand if you think Iran is currently scheming to redouble their efforts to kill American troops in Iraq…

    Fuck all of these people. All the people in Israel aren’t worth a single American soldier’s fingernail.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  307. Svigor says:
    @Jack D

    Too bad that Trump has a long memory. He even remembers when the Iranians took our diplomats hostage in 1979. Trump is not the kind of guy who is willing to let bygones be bygones.

    It’s funny when Zionists bring up the Iran hostage crisis, because it proves my point that there’s really no reason for non-Shabbos-goyim Americans to be angry with Iran. All of the hostages were returned alive.

    This is the kind of thing the Zionists got: a zero-casualty event from 41 years ago.

    Funny how they never talk about Flight 655 though. Or how their real reason for hating Iran is that they’re Israel-firsters. There’s plenty of reason to hate Iran, if you’re Israeli, or an Israel-firster. I bet Hezbollah kicking IDF ass still stings. Pop goes the “Israeli invincibility” balloon.

    (((“Let’s you and him fight”))) classic technique.

  308. Neoconned says:

    Lol hands on experience….

  309. @Jack D

    Oh, he’s been promoted way beyond that. He was a diplomat on a peace mission! He was an aspiring rapper who was about to enroll in college. Oh, wait, that’s someone else’s BS story.

    This is up there with “the civilian wing” of <>. The IRA pioneered this with Sinn Fein.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  310. J.Ross says:
    @Prosa123

    I know, right, I mean it’s not like gay men ever hit on straight men, or rape them, or lead destructive social activism campaigns, or harass people sometimes to death, or enjoy disproportionate media representation and corrupt political power, right?

  311. Svigor says:
    @Lot

    Source of the system that got Abdul Mahdi into power: the US military, US gov’t, and the Iraq War’s Jewish and Israeli planners.

    Western democracy, good and hard.

  312. @Jack D

    And the mask slips just a bit…

    “While (male) homosexual sex acts are repulsive to me in the same way that I find eating insects to be repulsive, there must be some evolutionary function to homosexuality that we perhaps don’t understand or it wouldn’t persist.”

    Complete and total nonsense. What’s the evolutionary function an adult’s authentic sexual attraction to small children or to beasts? Or to the dead?

    The primary function of every species is to survive. A species survives by reproducing. Homosexuality is the direct antithesis to that most basic function.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  313. @nebulafox

    “It is a variant of nature, neither intrinsically good nor bad, and has the potential to work toward societal interests occasionally.

    Lunacy. Countless diseases and illnesses are variants of nature. None are good or bad, but no one wants to be afflicted with one. Homosexuality is a like a species wide auto immune disorder.

    “Just to cite one example: I don’t think Da Vinci would have done what he did if he became just another Florentine rotary, married, and had kids. Being an illegitimate, unschooled, skeptical homosexual-aka, someone who was not “normal”-probably helped fuel his brilliance.”

    Pure fantastical conjecture.

  314. Anonymous[292] • Disclaimer says:
    @Brutusale

    When being an adult film actor or actress was actually a profit making proposition, women made more money but men had longer careers, provided they could still perform and did not die of drugs or AIDS. And if they avoided the temptation to do gay for pay, few got actually lethal disease.

    Herpes was 100 percent rampant and there would be bouts of syph and gonorrhea, but the last two were treatable. As with hookers many or most women got PID which sterilized them mercifully.

    Now thousands of amateurs put up videos of themselves essentially for free on web sites, so it’s no longer a profession.

    It was never a noble or admirable profession, but it had a purpose in its time.

  315. FvS says:

    Keep in mind that Jews control a lot of the pornography in the U.S., especially interracial pornography. You degenerates see what they want you to see, and they hate white men.

    Greg Lanksy, founder of Blacked.

  316. FvS says:
    @Hypnotoad666

    Many New York Hispanics are from the Caribbean with heavy negroid admixture.

  317. @MikeatMikedotMike

    Homosexuality is the direct antithesis to that most basic function.

    Actually, it’s a direct antithesis to itself, i.e., an oxymoron.

    However, it’s hardly inconceivable, pardon the term, that homos who are forced to marry, as is the case in many if not most societies, will have more children than others. Simply because few things excuse you from the detested sex act better than pregnancy.

    So the proclivity gene survives. Just like the sickle-cell gene in malaritopia.

  318. Svigor says:
    @Johann Ricke

    Yeah, it’s right up there with anything the US gov’t or political elite or (((Big Media))) say about, well, anything. Actually, I think it’s probably more reasonable to take the Iranian regime’s word. It’s not like they invaded a country halfway around the world to the tune of trillions of dollars and hundreds of thousands dead all based on some bullshit Neocon story about nonexistent WMD. If Saudis killed 3000 Iranian civilians in Iran, it’s not like the Iranians would be microcephalic enough to attack the Iraqis for it just because some Zionists told them to.

    The US is not a serious country. Iran is.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  319. Art Deco says:
    @Svigor

    Saudi Arabia killed 3000 American civilians on 9/11

    They didn’t.

    Israel strafed the USS Liberty and killed dozens of our sailors

    Which was an accident for which they apologized and paid compensation.

    Try not building your viewpoint on a foundation of blatant lies.

    • Agree: vhrm
    • Replies: @Svigor
  320. anon[104] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ragno

    Have you looked at “Ida Bae”‘s Twitter bio?

    Yeah, lol. Mixing English and Danish means her name is:

    [MORE]

    “Ida Poop”. Good thing she’s not from Boise!

    Must be one of those 140 IQ journolists @ NYT .

  321. @Svigor

    Actually, I think it’s probably more reasonable to take the Iranian regime’s word.

    Of course. As fellow Aryans like a certain corporal himself, they can be counted on to be truth-tellers. As that corporal once said “This is the last territorial demand I have to make in Europe”. He was true to his word. The demands he made after that were for surrender, not territory.

    • Replies: @Svigor
  322. Svigor says:
    @Art Deco

    Saudis did 9/11. (Saudis attempted the previous two attempted attacks against the towers, too, IIRC) All the hijackers were Saudi, or all except one, I forget. So Saudi Arabia is far more responsible than Iraq or Afghanistan were.

    Which was an accident for which they apologized and paid compensation.

    If Iranians had done the same, Zionists would call it deliberate, and the explanation lies. Fortunately, Iran doesn’t even cause such “accidents” for Zionists to mischaracterize.

    Try not building your viewpoint on a foundation of blatant lies.

    Try not to be blatantly deceptive in your phony pursuit of truth. Btw, “lies” is plural and you only had one semantic quibble with my comments. Who’s the liar, again?

  323. @Ian Smith

    Unlikely, but you probably screwed up less than we did. Legit sorry for your loss, and ours.

  324. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Art Deco

    I think you’ve confused hatred and disgust.

    To a large extent it’s disgust that the homosexual lobby is actively proselytising, actively looking to gain new recruits from amongst the young.

    When homosexuals were in the closet nobody cared all that much about them one way or the other. They were mostly ignored. As long as they genuinely wanted to be left alone they mostly were left alone. But when children are exposed to propaganda extolling the joys of anal sex I think it’s reasonable to be disgusted.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  325. @Svigor

    It was an accident. Have you ever been anywhere near a war zone?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike

  326. Yngvar says:
    @J.Ross

    50% of men convicted in Norway for child sex abuse are same-sex abusers. That’s a lot for the homos being just 1% of the population.

  327. @Hypnotoad666

    There’s always a problem with self-reported data but anyway….

    ….

    how would this affect Mean Jerk Time? (Silicon Valley)

  328. @James Braxton

    That is his topic.

    24/7, 365 days a year.

    There is no other topic.

  329. @Svigor

    Another mistake:

    Iran Air Flight 665.

  330. Svigor says:
    @Johann Ricke

    That’s some vintage yiddishe kopf mass media bantz, circa 1985, Mr. Boomer. Think I saw it in a Captain America comic once.

  331. @J.Ross

    “When I heard that Arab rocketeers tossed the gimbals and gyroscopes so that more fuel could mean more range, even if aiming was now pointing and hoping, I refused to believe it”

    As long as GPS is available (USA, Europe, Russia all have their own) and isn’t turned off, no reason they couldn’t used that. After all, USA hobbyists flew a model airplane across the Atlantic Ocean in 2003 (USA!USA!USA!).

  332. Art Deco says:
    @Svigor

    Saudis did 9/11.

    And American citizens made up the mafia. Doesn’t make the mafia an extension of government policy. (And, no, they weren’t all Saudis).

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  333. Art Deco says:
    @dfordoom

    One person very dear to me was in the Army during the 2d World War. He had about four quite dissimilar postings over those 2.5 years. He said he knew nothing and saw nothing of homosexuality in the ranks. My father was in the Air Force just after, for a period straddling the start of the Korean War (and had two postings). He said there was a cross-dresser in one of his units – a man who wore lipstick off duty. By my father’s description, people would steer clear of him, but he was otherwise left alone. Pretty sure this sort of thing was very far from people’s minds. It got to be an issue because a critical mass of homosexual men wanted applause from the rest of the world and an acknowledgement of their Special qualities.

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  334. MEH 0910 says:

    Charles Murray didn’t express concern back in October. He joked about it. Angela Saini is a joke.

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  336. dfordoom says: • Website
    @Art Deco

    Pretty sure this sort of thing was very far from people’s minds. It got to be an issue because a critical mass of homosexual men wanted applause from the rest of the world and an acknowledgement of their Special qualities.

    Growing up in Australia even during the 60s homosexuality wasn’t an issue. People knew they existed but they kept to themselves and everybody was happy with that situation. If they were discreet about their activities nobody bothered them. At my high school it was a total non-issue. One or two of the teachers and a handful of the pupils may well have been homosexual but if so they kept quiet about it and nobody cared. It just wasn’t an issue.

    Then in the 70s they started to become politically aggressive, with results with which we’re all too familiar.

  337. MEH 0910 says:

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