Edwin Moise, the writer of that letter, is a historian and a professor of 20th century military history.

Also, one crucial difference- both North and South Koreans belong to the same people. Not so with Ukrainians and Russians.

Zelensky cares far more about where the border ends up than Eisenhower did in 1953, and Putin cares far more about where the border ends up than Mao did in 1953. So the odds they will be able to reach a compromise are not good.

That sounds pretty true. I’d add that prospects for a compromise would be much better if the current US administration weren’t both pouring fuel on the fire and actively militating against a negotiated settlement.

He’s also lying. This is a war of Russia against Anglo-dominated NATO, with the latter using Ukrainians as cannon fodder.

Yes, Zelensky has to go.

Well, he’s obviously lying here. Exactly whom he’s trying to fool is debatable.

Ukrainians are being used as cannon fodder by Anglo-led NATO. And many Ukrainians do seem to harbor a genocidal hatred of Russians which might mutate into a sort of long term insurgency. But this war is only tangentially about Ukraine. If NATO ended it’s support of Ukraine, the war would end in perhaps two weeks tops.

The US is doing too little because of cuck fears of Russian threats. Ukrainians should have gotten jets & missiles galore, ling since & Russian military facilities should have been destroyed & Russian citizens sent to shelters.

Taking into account monumental cowardice, laziness & stupidity espoused by US, UK & other fat Western powers, perhaps the only solution is, give or take, Kotkin’s: fully integrate 80% of Ukraine into EU system & continue with harsh sanctions, perpetually escalating them, against Russia & its backers.

Thus the result will be another Cyprus, but with Turkey & Turkish Cyprus paying the price.

What a company: Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, India, South Africa, Brazil. Fellowshit of the stink.

This is… your opinion. And also the opinion of many Ukrainians. And I suspect this war is leading many Russians to form the same opinion. I guess we could call it the narcissism of small differences. But from an outside perspective, it’s awfully hard to tell the difference between the Russians and Ukrainians.

prospects for a compromise would be much better if the current US administration weren’t both pouring fuel on the fire and actively militating against a negotiated settlement.

Agree. No nation in the world is profiting from this war. Some corporations and some individuals certainly are, but not humanity. That a negotiated settlement isn’t even under serious discussion tells us how humanity stacks up against corporations and some individuals.

News reports were that the Kievan regime and Moscow were close to an agreement last spring but that BoJo brought word from the Hegemon killing the agreement.

The neocons and the military-industrial complex need this war. The neocons think it will improve their domestic position and they also have fantasies of bringing about a “color revolution” in Moscow and bringing Russia under their control. And big bucks are flowing to the military-industrial complex to replace the arms transferred to Ukraine.

In fact, as the recent Chinese-mediated agreement between Iran and the Saudis illustrates, the major beneficiary is the PRC, maybe even to the point that they will feel free to move on Taiwan (I think Xi is more cautious than that, but I am far from certain). A PRC move on Taiwan would of course either bring war with the US, which the US would lose catastrophically (good-bye, Pacific Fleet!), or the US would stay out, which would completely destroy US prestige world-wide.

The very few Western reporters who actually go to the front report that Russian artillery rounds overwhelm Kievan rounds by roughly 10 to 1. Since WW I, modern warfare has been artillery warfare, and the rule of thumb is that the kill ratio roughly tracks the number of rounds fired.

And, accordingly, Western reporters who get to the front report that Kievan forces are being devastated.

In short, the end result here is likely to be the destruction of the US position as world Hegemon, a result devoutly to be wished for by all of us who support a restoration of the American Republic.

However, the cost in Ukrainian lives will be horrific, which is why I sincerely hope that the US Deep State comes to its senses and allows Kiev to agree to a compromise peace.

Assuming the neocons are too insane to allow that to happen, the best bet to end the carnage is probably a massive Russian thrust to conquer the country, but I think Putin is focused on limiting his own casualties and is not willing to pursue a short-term solution.

Which means the Ukrainian death toll will horrifically surpasses its already terrifying levels until the Ukrainian people demand peace.

And the end days of the Hegemon loom closer.

History is accelerating.

“May you live in interesting times.”

Zarensky will do as told and end the war when we want. We stop shipping things his army breaks and he gets strung up. If he stops now he is a heroic figure for all time.

The US won the war when we blew up Nordstream. So let’s bug out.

“Also, one crucial difference- both North and South Koreans belong to the same people. Not so with Ukrainians and Russians.”

Not so fast, there are millions of Russians in the Donbas. Ukrainian attacks on the Donbas, was one of Putins’ stated reasons for war with Ukraine.

But this war is 3 wars, not 2.
This is the civil war, W vs E Ukraine (Galicians against Russian speaking Ukrainians.
Then it is US/Nato vs Russia.
And finally it is US vs China (sometimes called US vs Germany or EU).

The whole purpose of the war from US pov is to stop EU/Germany buying Russian oil and gas, and more generally stop Europe from being a trading partner of China as China becomes the biggest Economy in the world (bigger than US on PPP since 2016).
The third war has been hugely successful for US, with Europe now wholly dependent on US support and even US energy. The same people control our politicians here in Europe as control Joe Biden.

The first war has been devastating for Ukraine – a hell hole now with barely any 16-60 year olds left to fight (though plenty have departed never to return – white immigrants of the kind both Russia and Europe want). Of course a big pit at the end of the Chinese Belt and Road is precisely the US goal.
Note how US media has finally got around to just how many dead Ukrainian soldiers there are now.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/2023/03/ukraine-media-start-to-acknowledge-reality.html

The Second war has been a complete disaster for US/Nato who have lost and now have no credibility to negotiate a peace (Ukraine’s biggest problem is who can possibly represent it now, no Ukraine leadership, no credible partner that can make guarantees to Russia).

The Third war was a resounding success in Europe but a complete failure elsewhere. Saudi and many countries now want to join BRICS+ ie to trade in the China Block, not the US block.

The huge story this weekend was the Saudi – Iran deal. Biggest Sunni ISIS & Terrorist supporters do a deal with the major Shia power. Could well lead even to a peace settlement in Yemen (remember that crisis). Leaves Israel in a very weak position when its foes join up.
Who provided the diplomacy for the Saudi Iran deal? The new Global leaders. China.

Bardon Kaldian wrote to slumber_j:

The US is doing too little because of cuck fears of Russian threats. Ukrainians should have gotten jets & missiles galore, ling since & Russian military facilities should have been destroyed & Russian citizens sent to shelters.

I urge everyone to keep in mind that my friend Bardon is an enemy alien who does not support the best interests of the United States of America. He is a Serbo-Croation, and I remind everyone of what happened in 1914 when the Serbo-Croatians managed to get the West involved in their own regional feuds in Eastern Europe.

They are trying to do it again.

We Americans are such fools that we tend to think that foreigners with no allegiance or loyalty to the American Republic and no ties to this country should have an equal say as actual Americans.

Which is one of the many reasons that America is not likely to survive.

Very few countries in human history have suffered from this particular version of insanity.

Huge news from Tucker: Ron DeSantis is not a Nulandite and doesn’t want to make fabulous profits from preventable deaths. DeSantis opposes all escalation, all offensive Ukrainian action, all weapons which enable same such as F-16’s, calls it a “territorial dispute” and not an “invasion” (correct by the way), and demands a refocus on our border and on our actual enemy, China.
I am trying to reach the based department but all lines are jammed.
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To Steve’s point,
Koreans had local strength without us or China and Ike wanted the war ended pronto once he saw how it was being mismanaged. Ukraine is a single coat of nail polish on American power (Ukrainians will survive as a diaspora in a dozen countries, including Brazil and Canada). West and East Ukrainians (Russians) are far more different than North and South Koreans — they spoke different languages and historically were different countries. I don’t know if anyone in Korea talked about their alternate region the way US State Department aligned leaders in Kiev casually tossed off jokes about nuking the Donbas or implemented increasingly severe policies or artillery barrages targeting civilian areas (before Russia intervened).
Korea was ended to a great deal because it not only involved, but criminally mismanaged, American soldiers, in memory of their greatest triumph to date, and the mismanagement was witnessed by the man who had been in charge of the triumph. I find no parallel at all in the most important thing. This was the mechanism of action of the peace.
Another thing, Korea (both of them) was pretty much powerless and at the command of outside helpers. That’s different from this situation, where one side is only attacking at the behest of an outside helper, while the other side is not a weakened national region but a sovereign nuclear power with additional support from important producer nations. Russia tried to negotiate, it tried to join NATO. It has suffered a constant destabilization campaign going back to Hillary Clinton’s worst-ever term heading State (Blinken is not worst ever because he has not yet gotten his subordinates killed and then had nothing to say about it) and frankly I can’t see the advantage to Russia in letting terrorists buy time to plan more terrorism.

Yes, Washington will decide what’s the Ukrainian position, not Zelensky or any other European. The actor and comedian was voted in as a peace candidate but that’s not what the West wanted of him. The West wanted to confront Putin and felt it had a strong hand against him. They still do so Zelensky will continue to do his green tracksuit and beard act.

When the WaPo, Times of London and NYT start doing stories about how eastern and southern Ukraine always were kind of Russian, then we’ll know the West has had about as much fun as it can stand and wants to move on. That’s when Zelensky joins Noriega and Ngo Dinh Diem “on the wrong side of history”.

Excellent – and I made similar comments below.
The Ukrainian death rate is horrendous – and keeping that secret so that it may continue is probably the worst thing the western media has done since the silence on Cambodia and Laos bombing.
I don’t like the term evil, but I can’t think of a better one for this.

Zelensky cares far more about where the border ends up than Eisenhower did in 1953

LOL! What is it with these people? Zelensky doesn’t give the slightest damn about the border, or about Ukraine. He’s milking the war for all he can, and when Russia’s inevitable victory becomes obvious, Zelensky and the rest of his Jew team will bolt for Israel or Miami or wherever with their looted billions in Western aid.

The fact that at this point people still can’t see what a psychotic monster Zelensky is, can’t see the endless war crimes being committed by Ukraine (yes, they are on video, hundreds of them), can’t see how Zelensky and Team Biden are happy to let every last Ukrainian die in a pointless cause… it’s all astounding.

If Ukraine ends up split its an even bigger victory. Already the global center of human trafficking for both organs and sex slavery, all run by Jews through Israel, an entire generation of men are being slaughtered. This will leave thousands of widows and orphaned children, all the easier to exploit because they will be desperate. It will be a bounty for the Jews that control the place now, and do nothing but loot it’s resources. But by then we’ll all go back to ignoring Ukraine, the way we did before, so the Jews could exploit it and pad the pockets of Western politicians.

Who’d have thought that having a Bronze Age Death Cult run Imperial Foreign Policy wouldn’t end well?

What a company: Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Iran, Russia, China, North Korea, India, South Africa, Brazil. Fellowshit of the stink.

So you mean basically the entire non-Western world, and the future power block both militarily and economically, while the West sinks into it’s own decadence, perversity and incompetence.

None of those nations ever did a thing to me, other than ruin white nations with their population overflow and parasitical exploitation of stupid white generosity.

OT

AP has a very weird article about Covid era high-school grads taking decent jobs rather than going to college on student loans. They frame it as a looming disaster:

What first looked like a pandemic blip has turned into a crisis. Nationwide, undergraduate college enrollment dropped 8% from 2019 to 2022, with declines even after returning to in-person classes, according to data from the National Student Clearinghouse. The slide in the college-going rate since 2018 is the steepest on record, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.

Economists say the impact could be dire.

At worst, it could signal a new generation with little faith in the value of a college degree. At minimum, it appears those who passed on college during the pandemic are opting out for good. Predictions that they would enroll after a year or two haven’t borne out.

But the individual stories seem pretty happy and in photos the kids seems very happy.

There is data in the article bemoaning the “low” rate of college attendance by kids these days:

Most states are still collecting data on recent college rates, but early figures are troubling.

In Arkansas, the number of new high school graduates going to college fell from 49% to 42% during the pandemic. Kentucky slid by a similar amount, to 54%. The latest data in Indiana showed a 12-point drop from 2015 to 2020, leading the higher education chief to warn the “future of our state is at risk.”

Even more alarming are the figures for Black, Hispanic and low-income students, who saw the largest slides in many states. In Tennessee’s class of 2021, just 35% of Hispanic graduates and 44% of Black graduates enrolled in college, compared with 58% of their white peers.

“Just” 35, 44, and 58 percent!

Plugging those numbers into my stats calculator I get the low-end IQ of college students as 97 for white, 92 for Hispanics, and 87 for blacks. It’s probably a bit lower for all three, since there people with higher scores who don’t go to college, bringing down the lower end. Maybe these figures include some community college dropouts. But it looks to me like too many people are still going to college.

Maybe the looming disaster is that fewer kids will be brainwashed by CRT, gender ideology and so on.

https://apnews.com/article/skipping-college-student-loans-trade-jobs-efc1f6d6067ab770f6e512b3f7719cc0

That must be some strange Slavic custom, insulting the people you’re begging from. Maybe y’all should reconstitute the Austro-Hungarian Empire, I don’t know.

There is so literally nothing analogous between the Ukrainian War and Korea that only an academic could have thought of that.

Russia is not in any mood to negotiate anything, with Peskov saying just the other day that all goals now are military goals. Neither is Russia going to allow anything resembling “Ukraine” to exist on its borders ever again.

This war will go on for another decade. Russia’s goals are the disintegration of NATO, the demilitarization of Europe, and the de-energization of the West. Their plan will be accomplished. Any self-delusory dreams about a return to the status quo ante are merely a symptom of Western hubris and cluelessness.

The West still has no idea what hit it. It dies not realize that its money is gone, its energy is gone, its legitimacy is gone, and its hegemony is gone. The possibility of continuing as we have been is nonexistent.

A turning point is coming, in about 3-5 years’ time, when the ordinary American man and woman realizes that Putin’s future is better for them than the future their own leaders have in mind. Then the Western political class will be truly isolated, and will thrash around violently in its final spasms of rage and denial. It will attempt to inflict upon us all the vengeance it could not inflict upon the world. But that is the moment of hope: one more acute crisis, and then normalcy returns. It will be up to all good people to fight the Battle of Bedford Falls, sacrificing to make their own towns and cities work while the speared walrus gurgles and dies.

Was recently arguing with a lefty friend, who acknowledged that Ukraine cannot really ‘win’ this war but advocated for continuing to arm them and let the war roll on until it reached some maximum point of gains for Ukraine – which astounded me because it’s clear the high water mark for them was quite some time ago, now it’s just feeding their people into a meat grinder and gradually losing territory.

Seems to be the same position of our leaders though – at some point they will wake up and realize the Ukraine doesn’t have enough conscripts or supplies to regain its former boundaries and a deal has to be made. The risk of course is that we take so long Russia calculates it will get everything it wants in the end if it refuses a negotiated deal. What will the geniuses in Washington do then?

At any rate, American cultural, fiscal, and foreign policy in the 21st century has been one long, unbelievable disaster.

News reports were that the Kievan regime and Moscow were close to an agreement last spring but that BoJo brought word from the Hegemon killing the agreement.

From Ukraine Pravda:

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2022/05/5/7344206/

Bojo basically said their sugar daddy (the West) wouldn’t back negotiations. And yet Biden keeps saying the decision will always be up to Ukraine. Lol.

According Ukrainska Pravda sources close to Zelenskyy, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom Boris Johnson, who appeared in the capital almost without warning, brought two simple messages.

The first is that Putin is a war criminal, he should be pressured, not negotiated with.

And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not.

Johnson’s position was that the collective West, which back in February had suggested Zelenskyy should surrender and flee, now felt that Putin was not really as powerful as they had previously imagined, and that here was a chance to “press him.”

The US is doing too little because of cuck fears of Russian threats. Ukrainians should have gotten jets & missiles galore, ling since & Russian military facilities should have been destroyed & Russian citizens sent to shelters.

I’m not sure where cuckoldry enters into the equation, but that doesn’t strike me as more conducive to a negotiated settlement than what I indicated in my first comment.

Also I don’t want more people sent to shelters. But I suppose that’s a separate discussion–in some ways at least.

“it’s awfully hard to tell the difference between the Russians and Ukrainians.“

Ukrainians look most like Poles, and somewhat less so like Germans. Slavic Russians are more diverse and sometimes look that way too, but tend to have thinner builds and slightly exotic asiatic features.

For a long time Poles, Germans, Lithuanians and Jews dominated Ukraine. I wonder to what extent the type of downward mobility Clarke identified caused their Ukrainians vassals to be partially replaced. The Germans and Jews were more culturally distant and segregated, but probably they took in a lot of Polish blood.

This is a clash of civilisations between those who believe gender is a spectrum and those who believe Russian-ness is. Or it’s between those who think race and sex aren’t real but Ukraine-ness is. To be more accurate, it’s the western position that race, sex, Russian-ness and Ukraine-ness can be either hazy or precise categories, depending on what suits us. Similarly, at the moment Georgia is European but Hungary is not.

The CIA used to encourage its senior people to read “Seven Types of Ambiguity” but now our analysts are given a cookie for seeing things as childishly as possible. More than ever militant stupidity is rewarded and nuance is a dirty word:

Geography can be tough. Here’s a guide for Russian soldiers who keep getting lost & ‘accidentally’ entering #Ukraine pic.twitter.com/RF3H4IXGSp

— Canada at NATO 🇨🇦 (@CanadaNATO) August 27, 2014

This is water:

And this is vitriol:

Visually- no differences …

I’m really not one to ever defend the “western media,” but the Ukrainians are perfectly capable of telling the truth to the world. Or at least hiding the truth while they reach a backroom deal. I don’t really like seeing our money going to wage this war, and I really don’t like seeing Germany being destroyed over this. And I really, really don’t like risking direct war with Russia. And I know some Ukrainians are innocent, as are many of the Russian soldiers. But all in all, “western” governments and “western” media don’t have more obligation to tell the truth or to defend Ukrainian lives than the Ukrainians themselves do.

AP has a very weird article about Covid era high-school grads taking decent jobs rather than going to college on student loans. They frame it as a looming disaster:

It is a disaster for the Wokesters.

Modern American universities are goldmines that can support enormous Woke hives of drones who have the sole task of spreading Wokism.

They also serve as important beachheads for entering and eventually transforming conservative areas.

Finally, they certainly can’t have potential future sheeple running around off the plantation, learning to think for themselves and eventually realizing how worthless Wokism is.

and the future power block both militarily and economically, while the West sinks into it’s own decadence, perversity and incompetence.

Do you actually think of these countries as the future power block? And that North American and European countries are somehow decadent, perverse, incompetent- in comparison with those countries?

These countries mean: cannibalism, mass murder, public defecation, slavery, public torture and executions, genocide,….

Really- I don’t know what to say. Or, perhaps, I do. I prefer marginal trannies & casual sex to prostitution as a way of life and public hangings and shitting on the road.

Ukrainians are Russians. They speak the same language, share the same ethnicity, eat the same food. All the Ukrainians I know in the West speak only Russian, buy food in the same Russian/Ukrainian/East Europeans stores, etc. They followed the same religion until they decided to separate for political reasons, except for a few Catholics. We can say that the West of Ukraine has more Polish and Jewish influence, and that’s why it got so messed up, while the East is more Russian.

They were part of the Russian Empire for centuries and of the Soviet Union for decades. It used to be called “Little Russia”. At least half of the population didn’t even care for independence in 1991. Half of the population didn’t want that Maidan goverment.

I personally don’t care, but the idea that Ukrainians and Russians are “completely different people” is retarded. This war is stupid. Only stupid people support the Ukraine. Ukrainians are stupid. They are stupider even than Poles and Croatians. But all Eastern Europeans are mostly a riffraff. Except maybe a few Serbs. And few Russians. The Russians I know in the West are mostly cool. I tend to sympathize more with Russians, just as I sympathize more with Serbs.

Ukrainians should have gotten jets & missiles galore, ling since & Russian military facilities should have been destroyed & Russian citizens sent to shelters.

Hey armchair hero, why don’t you go fight in those international brigades in the Ukrainian Army, and leave all others out of this mess?

Slavs are really utter trash. The world doesn’t owe you shit. Go f. yourself.

The white kids mostly male, have figured out that college, as it stands is a scam. There will not be jobs waiting for them post grad, that will pay enough to even pay off their student loans. And white males do not want to go into tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt, and spend four years in a hostile environment constantly being told they are evil, and in some instances literally, being told they should be exterminated. As for the STEM! STEM! STEM! Argument, wokeness action hires are eliminating job opportunities for even the best of the best white males. You are too smart, and too observant, to post something as trivial as… “the Hispanic kids are making good money in construction, so they are blowing off college.”
You post article after article about this stuff all the time.
My oldest son blew off a full ride at RPI as a chemistry major, and headed to Berklee music in Boston after one year because he said “I’m not dealing with this shit!” Eight years post grad, he’s making six figures writing and producing commercial jingles, and teaching music. STEM job? He’s not a woman, Asian, black, dot Indian, or tranny.
My youngest son, a STEM kid, blew off the University of Buffalo, a decent STEM school after a year for the same reason to head into skilled trades.
College is not anything like when you or I were in it.

Hey, where my sex slave at?

Ukrainians look Russian to me, both men and women, the physiognomy is always a tip-off, some may look Polish or Ugo.

Their top general and his typical Russian, Khrushchev-like, facial features:

I’d say Russians and Ukrainians have more in common than, for example, the Low German dialects speakers and Swabians in Germany. Der russische Bruderkrieg.

Today what is happening is a war of Ukraine against Russia.

That’s right. I remember last February 24 when the Ukrainian tanks crossed the border and rolled toward Moscow.

Oh, wait, that didn’t happen.

Nevertheless (and despite the Ukrainian talk of regaining all their territories) one could see a potential deal along Korean lines – the Russians withdraw to the borders of 2/23. There are already rumors that the Russian collaborators (Russian speaking Ukrainian citizens) who have helped run the newly occupied territories are already being withdrawn to Russia. Much of this territory would probably be lost in the planned Ukrainian spring offensive anyway so this would be a good deal from the Russian POV. From the Ukrainian POV, they get this territory back without losing any more men. Both sides would end the war equally unhappy with neither side’s goals being met, just as in Korea. The hard liners on both sides will be pissed that their sacrifices were for nothing.

Apparently Xi is coming to Moscow and is scheduled to talk to Zelensky immediately after. China has portrayed itself as neutral in this conflict and wanting peace. Maybe Xi would throw in some reconstruction aid from China as a sweetener. China is making lots of $ on $60 Russian oil.

The other way that this deal will resemble Korea : unoccupied Ukraine becomes part of the West, just like S. Korea. Politically and militarily. Russia gets to remain a pariah state vis-à-vis the West.

Eisenhower “It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop”

Assuming Russia gets the Donbass and then finds itself facing an Ukrainian force that is extremely well equipped with Western military technology and willing to attrite Russia over many years, Putin might end the war the war the way Eisenhower did with when faced with a stalemate in Korea: ‘Tell your proxy army to stop fighting or I’ll nuke ’em’.

Assuming Russia does not dare threaten to use or actually use theatre thermonukes, it will be begin to be ground down to a clear failure in Ukraine in about a 18 months with what is going to happen eventually being clear long before the denouement, giving the infuriated Kremlin a thirst for revenge. The ready to hand and relatively safe way would be to encourage and support China by giving it a carte blanch. Already completely unrealistic to think China would fight America without Russia having China’s back. A quagmire in Ukraine for Russia would quite likely overlap with a Chinese invasion of Taiwan if the Chinese were really intent on retaking it because Taiwan is encouraged to make noises about formal independence, China might prefer to go at the US indirectly at first by using North Korea as a proxy to attack the South where US troops are within reach.

But China wants to continue as it is, and and though they support military containment, which I suppose means deterrence, both Japan and Germany have said they want to continue doing business with China too). No one is able to explain how if there is not a war, bases and naval patrols of sea lanes are going to constrain China’s industrial growth, meaning stop China expanding economically. China’s military spending is increasing only concomitantly because it is still pegged at 2% of GDP’

It was easy to study the USSR or even Putin’s Russia and think that the Western way was the only one because Russians are not all that different to Americas. However the Chinese in China are simply less individualistic and more cooperative than any Western people, There is little evidence from China’s recent history that they must ape western society or the wheels will come off of the economy, indeed the norm for most of human history has been China being responsible for a third of global productive capacity.

Throughout the Cold War the US was closer to the USSR and Red China than they were to each other; America masterfully built up China against the USSR, which could not even feed itself and the USSR concentrated on weapons production to the detriment of its economy. In 2022 China and Russia became geostrategic partners and over-against America. Lo and behold, it was suddenly discovered that China was in irrevocable decline. Biden has repeatedly scoffed at the idea of China as real economic competition for America. The USSR’s strongest suite was always nukes (they may have had am edge over the US at one point in the eighties), and Russia has essentially equivalent ICBM capabilities to the US, meaning that they would destroy each other in a nuclear war. Mearsheimer predicted that Ukraine was going to need nukes to prevent Russian bullying, and he predicted China would become a peer competitor of the US. The one thing he did not count on was Russia getting so close to China.

If I recall correctly another thing that helped Ike negotiate an end to the Korean War was that he hinted he would use newly developed atomic artillery to break the stalemate.

Can’t say I want Biden implying any such thing…

The US is doing too little because of cuck fears of Russian threats.

The cuck position is to let your own country get dragged into other people’s wars. No Russian ever called me “deplorable” or “insurrectionist”. Why should any American die for an imperial government (“ours”) that despises us, that promotes our disenfranchisement, that promotes every known manner of degeneracy and perversion? Why should any of ours fight and die for the rainbow flag?

F**k you, Bardon. You want a war, YOU go fight it. The Ukrainians are taking volunteers.

Our gardeners’ son started helping them in his senior year of HS. He graduated in 2020, expecting to work for a while and then go on to the JC and eventually college. Well, he makes such good $ doing yardwork that he’s still out there, now talking about taking over the business when his parents retire.

College is great, but working is great too. It’d be nice if more young people could find an efficient way to combine them. Likely less GE requirements and more internships.

Russia is not in any mood to negotiate anything, with Peskov saying just the other day that all goals now are military goals.

Peskov is a dancing monkey who literally says whatever Putin tells him to say. If Putin told him to say that the moon is made of green cheese, he would say it. There is no need for Peskov to be consistent. If tomorrow Putin decides the opposite, Peskov will declaim it with equal enthusiasm.

Naturally, in a war, and especially with the Russian understanding of “information warfare”, Russia (and to some extent the Ukrainians too) are going to announce that they have maximal goals and that they are “winning”. They will keep saying this right up to the day that they surrender (not that they are about to surrender). No one of any intelligence is supposed to literally believe what they are saying. Sometimes there is information to be gained by closely analyzing Kremlin statements, but not by taking the pronouncements literally. You have to read between the lines. For example, when Putin threatens nuclear war, that means that the war is going poorly on the battlefield.

For several centuries Western Ukraine (west of the Dnieper river) was
part of the Polish-Lithuanian Res Publica, dominated by the Polish
Crown. Kiev was a Polish-ruled city for over 100 years, and Lvov was
a Polish city for many centuries until in the 19th century it became
part of the Austrian partition. Hence the Ukrainian language itself
is in many ways a heavily polonized form of Russian.

The point is that at the very least the western third of Ukraine had almost
nothing in common with Russia, being ruled by Catholic powers like
Poland and briefly by Austria (only Galicia), and therefore regards itself
as part of Central Europe. If you visit Lvov, you’ll know immediately you’re
not in Eastern Europe. This war is partly because Western Ukraine wants
to be like Poland, and not like Russia. 3.5 million Ukrainians currently living
in Poland attest to that. Western Ukrainians feel they are part of the Central
European civilization, along with Poland, Czechia, Hungary, etc. This has
nothing to do with the U.S. or Russia. They feel it is part of their tradition
and their national destiny.

The commander of Ukrainian ground forces is Russian from Russia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleksandr_Syrskyi

We are in the elites looting the silverware stage of this fiasco. The conflict they engineered in Russia is just the straw that broke the camel’s back. It was already so over burdened it was ready to crash.

Now banks can’t fail and the rich never lose money? The playing field is tilted and crooked as a pinball table.

Russia will lose in the end.

America will grow stronger because we are moving away from the fetid white male and is malidorous inflience on society

A similarity with the Korean war may be a DMZ along the Western and Southwestern borders with Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania.

A significant similarity with WW2 may be post-War trials of “NeoNazis”.

Putin’s future is better for them than the future their own leaders have in mind

Putin offers no future. He is an aging bureaucrat clinging to faded dreams of the USSR. You think the average American wants to live in a country of grinding rural poverty where all natural resource wealth is spent on a cosseted class of urban elites? Russia is everything a true American conservative considers a nightmare.

OT: Nazis at Stanford!

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/swastikas-image-of-hitler-drawn-on-jewish-students-door-at-stanford/ar-AA18AhoB

Gotta be another hoax

You think the average American wants to live in a country of grinding rural poverty where all natural resource wealth is spent on a cosseted class of urban elites?

No, silly. I said Putin’s future is better than what Americans get now!

I’d say that the big difference is one side is decisively winning the war. This war isn’t a stalemate like the Korean War was.

The Ukrainians are fighting bravely, but you can’t win an artillery duel when the other side outguns you at least 5-to-1 and has longer-range guns.

The entire game plan of the West hinged on the economic sanctions destroying Russia’s ability to wage the war. When that didn’t happen, they should have pushed for peace. Instead, the insane neocons doubled down and choose to sacrifice tens of thousands of Ukrainians, hoping that the sanctions will work at some point. It’s criminal.

As for the STEM! STEM! STEM! Argument, wokeness action hires are eliminating job opportunities for even the best of the best white males.

Yup.

Here’s the latest in STEM education at RIT just one hour east of Buffalo:

https://www.rit.edu/news/zoo

Obviously, White men need not apply.

The front moved around a great deal more during the Korean War. I’m going to wager that eventually they get tired of shooting at each other over a few hundred yards of ground.

Now do the Ukraine.

Russia’s income distribution is quite ordinary. The most affluent decile receive about 30% of the country’s personal income, similar to that in the United States and Argentina. In France, the figure is around 26%.

There’s no indication that Putin want to conquer all of Ukraine. Why would he? Western Ukraine is a mess and has been a mess forever.

The outlines of a peace deal are pretty clear – not that the neocons will allow it:

1) The Donbas is now Russian

2) Russia gets to keep the land bridge to Crimea

3) Crimea is recognized as Russian

4) NATO and Ukraine promise that Ukraine will be neutral

5) The remaining Ukraine east of the Dnieper River will remain under Ukrainian control but will be a de-militarized zone

6) Ukraine will not be allowed missiles with a range long enough to hit Russia. Only short-range, defensive missiles

That’s how this war ends.

The United States was fighting China.

The United States was fighting the Soviet Union.

The modern research is that Stalin gave the go ahead to Kim to start the war. Mao was left out of the loop.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korean_War#Prelude_to_war_(1950)

This so that Mao would have to abort an invasion of Taiwan– Stalin wanted a KMT-CCP split of Mainland China along the Yangtze River anyways, not for the latter to overrun all of it.

Chinese soldiers, many recently surrendered KMT troops, were used as proxies and cannon fodder. Lingering resentment over this was what later led to Sino-Soviet Split.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1952_Inter-Camp_P.O.W._Olympics

The US is doing too little because of cuck fears…monumental cowardice

You’re bravely fighting for Ukraine right? Are JackD and HA next to you? If no, why not? Are you a coward?

laziness & stupidity espoused by US, UK

A Slav calling other stupid. Pot, meet kettle.

Agree: Johann Ricke

“The US won the war when we blew up Nordstream.”

Certainly as far as detaching Germany from Russia is concerned, which was one of the main aims of NATO – to keep “the US in, the Germans down, and the Russians out“.

But that was when Russia was the Soviet Union, with a state ideology of communism. It hasn’t been for 30 years.

As far as I an see it the US has promoted the Ukraine/Russia split as part of the Brzezinski/Wolfowitz doctrine, that no nation other than the US should have world power generation capability.

The thesis says that Russia + Ukraine = world power potential, Russia – Ukraine = regional power.

Therefore Ukraine must be an ally of US rather then Russia, hence Nuland/Maidan and all that.

Naturally Russia takes a different view, hence the current unpleasantness.

But the US seems to be fighting the wrong war. Other than multi-waveband radios, vodka and quality amateur telescopes, Russia doesn’t seem to be a consumer powerhouse. Meanwhile China is leaping ahead and IIRC is already the world’s biggest economy in purchasing power parity terms.

Forcing the world’s resource/energy giant and the world’s production giant together is a very brave strategy, as they used to say in “Yes, Minister”. Aka a pretty foolish one.

China as a partner for a country has one major advantage, in that they won’t mandate transgender bathrooms or Drag Queen Story Hour as a condition of development funding.

Instead of the Korean War, a better analogy would be a messy divorce and the ensuing argument over the property settlement (i.e., borders).

Sometimes real divorce proceeding do turn exceptionally nasty, even deadly.

Say you’re Russia. Your sister (ethnic Russians in the Donbas and Novorossiya) lives right next door to you. She’s in a failed marriage.

Your brother-in-law (Kiev Regime) falls in with a bad crowd (UniParty NeoCons/NATO). He starts beating your sister (ethnic Russians in Ukraine). Again and again. Indeed, your brother-in-law starts killing several of her children, those who side with their mother. These kids are your own nephews and nieces.

You (Russia) can’t take it any longer, so you attempt a reconciliation. Twice (Minsk I and Minsk II). Actually, your brother-in-law and his supporters were completely insincere about reconciliation and the latter just wanted to see even more violence against your sister and your family (Russia).

Finally, you (Russia) say enough is enough. You intervene to protect your sister and the endangered kids who support their mother.

People supporting the Kiev Regime loudly shout “Outrage! Outrage! Horror! Horror!” and all sorts of threats and abuse against Russia, her people, and their government.

So the Government of Russia stood up for her people (ethnic Russians in the Donbas and Novorossiya). Like in the analogy described above, no honorable person would do otherwise.

If your sister was in a messy divorce, and getting repeatedly abused, beaten, and having some of her children murdered by an abusive husband, and you stood by and did nothing, then you are a shameful and dishonorable person. Even more shameful and dishonorable would be someone from the other side of town who was bankrolling and arming your drug-addled, violently abusive brother-in-law.

At this point the best case scenario would be for western Ukraine (incl. Kiev)
to join the E.U., and simply forget about the rest. The problem is that
Ukraine is horrendously corrupt, even more corrupt than Russia. How is
it possible for a country to be more corrupt than Russia? After all,
when you travel through Russia, and leave Moscow (or SPB), you
immediately realize that Russia is a country of lazy, drunken, and
corrupt rednecks (“vatniki” etc). Moreover, there is a demographic
implosion of Christians taking place in Russia (accelerated by the war)
with a simultaneous demographic explosion of Muslims, so slowly
but surely Russia is becoming a Muslim country. Ukraine, of
course, wants no part of this.

I don’t know if he’s lying. Historians often misapprehend and/or misinterpret what they see. Being a “military historian” he is probably more interested in battles than in what caused battles.

But yeah, his analysis is obviously way off. This is a war of the neocon deep state against Russia. The Ukraine is only involved because they were willing to be the neocons’ cat’s paw. (Except for the ones who fled, surrendered, or were pressganged.)

Ironically, Moise reaches approximately the right conclusion but for the wrong reason. A ceasefire is unlikely, but not because of anything to do with Ukraine or Russia, Zelensky or Putin. It’s because of the factor he is (deliberately?) blind to: neocons have no stop condition other than total defeat of Russia.

I am old enough to remember when the “Serbo-Croatian “ identity was being promoted.

Until it wasn’t.

I’ve read a few comments on my comment here. Most are simply silly, but, what is interesting: it is if they’re written by hysterical 13 years olds.

Unbelievable.

Men, supposedly over 30 & more, behave like spoiled children throwing tantrums & generally, whining like semi-retarded adolescents on dope.

Really- hard to believe.

For those Russia’s admirers, another “nice” info on Putin the white warrior:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-03-13/italy-wants-nato-to-help-combat-russia-driven-migrant-influx?leadSource=uverify%20wall

Italy Wants NATO to Help Combat Russia-Driven Migrant Influx

Italy’s defense minister on Monday called for help from NATO and the European Union to help deal with a new influx of migrants from north Africa he said has been sparked by Russian meddling in the region.

The “exponential increase” in migrant arrivals across the Mediterranean is “part of a clear strategy of hybrid warfare” by Russia’s paramilitary Wagner Group, which is using its influence in some African countries to foment a crisis, the minister, Guido Crosetto, said in a statement Monday.

Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni is on the defensive after more than 70 migrants drowned off Italy’s southern coast last month when a boat conveying them from north Africa capsized. In a hastily convened cabinet meeting in the Calabrian town of Cutro, near where the tragedy occurred, the premier pledged to further crack down on human traffickers.

But criticism over her handling of rescue operations and her government’s tough anti-migrant policies have continued to hound Meloni, with jostling from within the coalition making the situation worse.

As many as 30 people are missing after another vessel carrying migrants sank off the Libyan coast on Sunday, according to the Italian Coast Guard.

“Europe’s southern flank is becoming more dangerous by the day,” Crosetto said, adding that waves of migrants should, like cyberattacks, be considered part of a wider global confrontation between the West and Russia.

The CIA used to encourage its senior people to read “Seven Types of Ambiguity” but now our analysts are given a cookie for seeing things as childishly as possible. More than ever militant stupidity is rewarded and nuance is a dirty word:

Quite a few of them post here and call people “fanboys” and “Putinistas” and pretend they can’t distinguish between “wanting Russia to win” on the one hand and thinking this conflict is not relevant to the United States on the other.

I remember reading an article — sorry I can’t remember the source — which claimed that Truman was trying to signal to Mao that Truman wouldn’t stop CCP from invading Taiwan. In the meeting the Secretary of State showed the “vital interests “ of the US, including Japan and Philippines while carefully leaving out Taiwan.
Oops. They forgot to include South Korea as a vital interest. The article claimed that Stalin and Kim got the message that the US wouldn’t stop them from invading South Korea.

Oops.

I don’t know if this is true or not. This is similar to stories that Bush Sr signaled to Iran that an invasion of Kuwait would be okay but meant only that an invasion of a small amount of disputed land would be okay.

These little misunderstandings somehow lead to the deaths of millions and the destruction of entire nations.

The problem is that Ukraine is horrendously corrupt, even more corrupt than Russia.

I’m sure there is corruption, but will give y0u a personal data point. When I visited Western Ukraine (Lvov region) several years ago (long before the current war), the father of the Lithuanian man we were traveling with was convinced that we would get pulled over in a phony speed trap by Ukrainian cops looking for a bribe. He gave use very detailed instructions on how much to pay, how to pay it, etc. In reality, nothing of that sort happened to us. No sign of any corruption at all. It was very slow at the border from Poland, with a long line of Ukrainians driving ancient Ladas and smoking furiously (the drivers, not the cars) but again, no one asked us for any bribe. Ukraine is still a very poor country.

The closest we got to anything corrupt was that when we were at the main square of Lviv, a shill approached us and recommended a restaurant. We didn’t really have any other restaurant recommendations and decided to go with his recommendation. He took us to a very modest looking place that was a block or two off the square in the kind of street that wouldn’t get a lot of walk by trade. There was a pretty big menu but in traditional Soviet fashion, whenever you asked for a dish on the menu, they didn’t actually have it. (Not that Ukraine was short on food – the supermarkets were well stocked). Finally we gave up and asked them what they DID have. What they did have was (I forget the exact dishes) good home style food like your Ukrainian mama would cook and the prices were very modest. As we were leaving we saw our shill eating a bowl of soup which presumably was his reward for steering us there.

So the place was more poor than it was corrupt as far as I could tell. Naturally when people are very poor they will do things in order to get by that they might not do otherwise.

You are not even worth blowing a troll button on… tiny dick

Thanks Howard! Checking it out. You the same Wild Geese Howard I see over at Zman?

Also, one crucial difference- both North and South Koreans belong to the same people. Not so with Ukrainians and Russians.

Do you mean that the border line in Korea was pretty arbitrary and it’s not in Ukraine? That I agree with.

But otherwise, I don’t really see the relevance to Korea as the people and their feelings about it were essentially a non-entity. The decision makers were effectively the Chinese and the Americans (UN) and to a lesser extent the Kim-Il-Sung and Syngman Rhee regimes, but they were dependent on their patrons. The Korean people were not consulted.

It’s true that Russia’s is occupying a whole lot of Ukrainian territory full of people who mostly do not want to be part of Russia. Which makes it hard to have a cease fire agreement.

Even Serbs are ridiculing the autocrat: https://www.politika.rs/scc/clanak/542635/putin-pobeda-snaga-rusija#comments

We are stronger than thought: Putin outlined the way to win in Ukraine

Some comments:

If we are going to be honest

On the contrary, you are weaker than what was thought both in the East and in the West

Tassos Pagonispre

You won’t, but what can you say to the poor Russians..

Marko

He could make that joke again about the freezing of the Germans and the collapse of the European economy….

Convince Americans why they should care which set of Slavic oligarchs rules which parts of Ukraine.

This is laughable:

The “exponential increase” in migrant arrivals across the Mediterranean is “part of a clear strategy of hybrid warfare” by Russia’s paramilitary Wagner Group, which is using its influence in some African countries to foment a crisis, the minister, Guido Crosetto, said in a statement Monday.

They are always hoaxes. The interesting question is whether the hoaxer gets punished.

The Russian Army Is Running Out Of T-72 Tanks—And Quickly

Russia’s tank shortage is worse than some observers previously thought. The Kremlin’s stocks of its most numerous tank, the Cold War-vintage T-72, are running out fast.

The worsening T-72 shortfall helps to explain why the Russians increasingly are equipping their newly-mobilized battalions with obsolete T-62 and T-80B tanks.

But per @partizan_oleg’s earlier count, the Russians had 6,900 old T-72s in storage, around a third of which might’ve been recoverable after decades of corrosive exposure to rain, snow and cycles of hot and cold.

The problem, for the Kremlin, is that @partizan_oleg’s February count was off. Double-checking their numbers on Tuesday, @partizan_oleg realized that, in fact, the Russians probably only have 1,500, not 6,900, old T-72s in storage. “And many of them are probably not in good shape,” they pointed out.

The recount was pretty straightforward. @partizan_oleg started with the number of T-72 hulls that Soviet industry produced in a 23-year production run between 1968 and 1991—18,000—and started subtracting tanks the Soviets and Russians either lost in combat, abandoned abroad or exported to foreign customers.

That’s how they arrived at the much lower number of war-reserve T-72s. The big variable, @partizan_oleg acknowledged, is that their production data might not include the very first T-72 model, the crude T-72 “Ural.” It’s unclear how many Urals the Uralvagonzavod factory in Sverdlovsk Oblast may have produced then stored. Perhaps hundreds. Perhaps a couple thousand.

But even after adding some very old Urals to @partizan_oleg’s T-72 survey, a stark conclusion is unavoidable. The Russians have lost potentially two-thirds of the T-72s that are in active service or in recoverable storage.

So it makes a lot more sense why the Kremlin is pulling out of storage T-62 tanks that are even older than any T-72 is, as well as T-80Bs that are roughly contemporaneous with early T-72s. Russian industry can produce just a handful of new tanks every month—far too few to make good monthly losses in the triple digits.

All that is to say, the Russians are running out of tanks. And quickly.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/03/12/the-russian-army-is-running-out-of-t-72-tanks-and-quickly/?sh=1a9875456099

It was recently reported that a number of ancient BTR-50 APCs were delivered to Russian forces in #Ukraine-- we obtained a photo of one of them.

This unit appears to be a BTR-50PU command&staff subvariant, adopted in 1958, however it is unclear for what role it will be used now. pic.twitter.com/kHkAKLSQQ3

— 🇺🇦 Ukraine Weapons Tracker (@UAWeapons) March 13, 2023

For a while, Belarus (which doesn’t do anything without approval from Moscow) was acting as a channel for African immigrants to enter the EU via Poland. The Poles are less worried about liberal opinion than the Italians and there was no sea for the migrants to drown in so the Poles just pushed them back over the border into Belarus. After Belarus ended up with a bunch of Africans on their side they quit doing this.

Yes, I am shocked by the insane level of pro-Putinism revealed in the comments. I think what is going on is that the American right has lost its mind. They are beginning to see that Trump was perhaps their high water mark and that under the current system they have nothing to look forward to, especially in the blue states but perhaps the whole country to the extent that it is controlled by the Democrat Permanent Government. From now on, people like them are going to be a despised minority and our new national heroes will be trannies and black ladies whose hair you must not touch. (The reality is not that bad but this is how they perceive it).

Therefore, the only solution for them is that the current regime has to be thoroughly discredited and destroyed. They are hoping and praying that there will be a bank run and the economy will crash and America’s neoconservative foreign policy (meaning Ukraine) will go down in defeat and so on. Somehow, from the ruins of this economic and military defeat, a new, better America that puts the interests of white Americans first and doesn’t pretend to be the world sovereign will emerge. No, they are not neutral – they want Putin (whom as you say they idealize anyway as the leader of a white Christian nation with strong moral values) to put the American beast in its place.

Once you understand that they WANT America (as it currently exists) to be destroyed and defeated and discredited, it all makes sense why people who you would otherwise normally expect to be patriotic are rooting for America’s enemies.

This analogy has merit but is unfortunately highly misleading because it suggests Ukraine (the brother-in-law) has agency in this mess. The West has had it in for Russia for a long time, even prior to the existence of modern Ukraine as an independent state.

Because the EU is notorious for xenophobic, pro-natalist and Islamophobic policies? Lmaoo

I see what you did there. Interesting propaganda.

A heartwarming little personal anecdote somehow offsets world-scale corruption of the Biden family in Ukraine along with a huge list of widely documented aspects of corruption including oligarchs, fake actor President, etc.

Professor Tim Snyder thinks it’s shameful and pathetic for Americans and Germans to even discuss concerns about getting nuked. pic.twitter.com/bx7uCg54Ya

— Max Abrahms (@MaxAbrahms) March 14, 2023

True American patriots, seeing the slow collapse of their country from fiscal and military overreach, cultural poisoning, and open borders, should be asking “What’s best for Ukraine?!”

Good metaphor, but the question is, in this metaphor what is the ceasefire/settlement state?

The other-side-of-town guy seems to have no intention of stopping bankrolling and arming the drug-addled, violently abusive brother-in-law. You (Russia) can’t directly harm the the other-side-of-town guy. So you either have to abandon your sister and nephews/nieces (seems unlikely), or finish off the abusive brother-in-law. A year ago you said would accept your brother-in-law’s pledge to stop the abuse, but since then he’s boasted that his pledges were just lies to deceive you. There is no higher court to appeal to.

So it seems the only outcomes short of nuclear war are abandoning Donbas or beating the Kiev regime into submission. Other options?

If Dave Pinsen is browsing, this might be a sell signal, otoh it might be a “buy arms manufacturers and potassium iodide retailers” signal.

a/c/t the Donbass Devushka channel, there’s been an “incident” over the Black Sea involving a Reaper drone.

An “Incident” involving a U.S. Air Force MQ-9 Reaper Drone has occurred over the Black Sea, there are some reports that the Drone has been Shot Down, however an Investigation is currently ongoing. pic.twitter.com/XuwrAzuh8v

— OSINTdefender (@sentdefender) March 14, 2023

This is a clash of civilisations between those who believe gender is a spectrum and those who believe Russian-ness is.

No it’s not.

This is more wishing-and-hoping by people on the “right”, somewhat similar to this idea that that some banking crisis is going to bring down our traitorous elites.

No Putin’s War is just the same age old Russian imperialism that’s been a bane upon human existence for about the past three centuries.

Russian arrogance–with French encouragement–along with the Austrian arrogance and the French and Germans and finally the English piling on, dragged us into the great 1914 debacle. The first half of my life, Russian imperialism was a gigantic–ridiculously expensive–millstone around the world’s neck. Then blissfully it was lifted.

That this is just Russian imperlism redox, is not my triple bankshot analysis. You don’t have to take my word for it. Putin gives long ponderous speeches where he explains Russia that its some great tragedy Russia is entitled to all this territory–full of people who do not want to be bossed around by Russians–and it’s a great tragedy that Russia has lost it.

You want to be a shill for Russian imperialism … go right ahead.

But it has basically zero to do with all the stupid minoritarian fetishes of Western elites. It’s just yet another Russian asshole pushing other people around and getting lots of people killed.

This is a complete fiction. No one in Ukraine was beating ethnic Russians in Ukraine or killing Russian children until Putin stuck his nose in there.

Putin doesn’t actually give a shit about the Russians of Donbas or for that matter the Russians of Russia, as shown by the fact that he has gotten so many of them killed. He is interested in going down as the new Peter the Great. Putin has said as much. He said that people die anyway every day from getting drunk and getting in car accidents and so on, but to die for Russia is glorious!

Hitler used the protection of the Germans of Czechoslovakia as his excuse for invasion also. Protecting Russians is one of about 5 rotating excuses that Putin has used for invading Ukraine depending on which one suits him that day. No one except the rubes is supposed to believe this. Sophisticated people in Russia don’t believe it. Lavrov doesn’t believe it. They understand that this war is about restoring the Great Russian Empire as a civilization that stands apart from the West, about gathering the Russian speaking people under one flag inside of Russian World. If you have to tell some tall tales about Russians getting beaten in order to accomplish this, that’s just one more aspect of warfare. Russian old people who get all their news from Russian TV have an excuse for buying into the propaganda, but what is your excuse?

modern warfare has been artillery warfare

I’ve generally refrained from commenting on the combat of the Ukraine war because I’m no expert and even the experts are getting a lot wrong. But it is hard not to notice that the ascendancy of mobile warfare that dates from World War Two seems to have ground down and we are now back to World War One-style trench/artillery/attrition warfare one century after we thought we had left that behind.

It seems that satellite and drone surveillance, modern anti-tank missiles and digital artillery targeting have made tanks as vulnerable as they have ever been. So territorial advances now are less often a matter of armored breakthroughs than of methodical bombardment exploited a yard at a time by infantrymen carefully picking their way forward.

Both sides have managed occasional dramatic breakthroughs when and where the other side wasn’t prepared, but as the military frontier becomes more defined and defended, the trend is looking more and more like northwestern France a little over a century ago, just with fewer men and more capital (to put it in crude economic terms).

Having access to more advanced NATO weapons and surveillance against Russia’s less advanced anti-tank weapons and surveillance, the Ukraine may yet pull off another mobile thrust (perhaps the left bank of the Dnieper “Spring Offensive” the Ukraine shills keep telegraphing?), but Russian anti-tank weapons are cheap and numerous, and a few wrecked high-tech NATO tanks on the battlefield are going to look worse than a lot of wrecked Soviet surplus tanks (as well as being more expensive: Russian tanks are something like 1/2 – 1/20 the cost of the NATO tanks depending on the model). And unlike the Soviet-era tanks that each side can say belonged to the other, there is no question where the NATO tanks came from.

tl;dr: I wouldn’t necessarily have agreed that “modern warfare has been artillery warfare” from, say, 1939-2022, but it is looking that way again.

As another commenter (J. Ross) pointed out, in response to a series of questions from Tucker Carlson, Florida Governor Ron DeSantis said this about America’s vital national security interests:

“becoming further entangled in a territorial dispute between Ukraine and Russia is not one of them”

This is real progress towards genuine patriotism: the foreign policy vision of America’s Founders.

I can’t dismiss the threat of nuclear war due to the Ukraine conflict, but the probability is diminishing because the horrific, cumulative losses of the Ukrainian military are becoming too obvious to deny.

The EU’s economic situation is horrible. The irony is that affordable Russian hydrocarbon fuel is now lost to the German economy. As a result, Germany will be much less willing, or able, to subsidize the rest of the EU. Some of the countries that receive the largest EU subsidies are the same countries that are the most enthusiastic about waging war with Russia!

Economic realities will change EU policies (and eventually also America’s) towards Russia, but unfortunately there will be many more needless deaths in the Ukraine in the meantime.

‘Also, one crucial difference- both North and South Koreans belong to the same people. Not so with Ukrainians and Russians.’

That’s an over-simplification — and a poisonous one.

I’m no military expert either, but I get the feeling that this war is not fully representative of what a war between two fully armed modern armies (let’s say the US vs the Chinese in a few year from now) would be like. Neither side was fully equipped with up to date armaments and state of the art training for combined operations. Neither side was able to effectively use air power. They were fairly evenly matched with each other (thus neither side has been able to win so far) but matched at a low level.

I have no doubt that if the US Army had gone up against the Russians we would not have ended up with trench warfare. The US Army would have retained the ability to remain mobile and use its armor with air and infantry support. The whole reason tanks were invented was to punch thru trench lines. The Russian anti-tank weapons are not fully effective against state of the art Western armor and defensive weapons such as the Israeli Trophy system.

What I don’t know is what would happen if the US Army went up against an equally trained and equipped army. I hope we never get to find out.

The war ends when we stop paying the Ukraine to continue it.

…it’s not that Russia is the good guy here. It’s just that no one else is either.

For example, when Putin threatens nuclear war, that means that the war is going poorly on the battlefield.

Not necessarily. It could mean that he’s learned that the Khazar Jews are about to deploy, for example, some kind of biological weapon.

– You’re assuming Russia ends at the internationally recognized borders of the Russian Federation but it does not. Thanks to Lenin and Krushchev the Ukrainian republic left the USSR with lots of historically Russian territory and lots of Russians living on it.

– Russians were willing and able to live with that until things went off the rails in 2014, thanks largely to western mischief-making.

– The Soviet Union was a Marxist-Leninist state dedicated to internationalism. It was run by Georgians, Ukrainians and Jews as much as it was run by Russians. Roughly speaking every nationality in the USSR had its perpetrators and its victims.

– Soviet troops ended up in Eastern and Central Europe thanks to Hitler, not Russian imperialism.

– Putin said the sudden collapse of the Soviet Union left Russian people destitute and minorities in brand new countries. That was the tragedy.

The Z-man looks at civilizational collapse. He’s been batting a thousand of late.

Overlaying all of this is the crisis of competence. The SVB fiasco is a great example of a problem that permeates American society. Instead of rewarding skill and accomplishment, our system is rigged to reward nonwhites at the explicit expense of whites, especially white males. The only market that is booming in America is the racial revenge market and the result is colorful people in positions of authority who lack the basic skills to do the jobs they have been given.

Thirty years ago, people warned about this. What started as tolerance in the 1980’s, became sensitivity in the 1990’s, then diversity in the new century. It has now turned into a full blown cult of anti-whiteness. While towns in Ohio suffer from an ecological disaster, the people in charge fret of racist sidewalks. Corporate America is more concerned with its ESG and DEI scores than its financial stability. We have combined demographic reality with anti-white fanaticism into a ruling ethic.

No society can run this way. Good luck fighting China with a rainbow coalition of drag diverse drag queens trying to operate space guns. Good luck weathering a reorganization of the financial system when the banks are run by people who were just recently coaxed from caves by European explorers.

https://thezman.com/wordpress/?p=29506

‘…I’m sure there is corruption, but will give y0u a personal data point…’

Meh. I will give you a personal data point. Two, in fact.

Remember how New York City supposedly had a lot of crime back in the day?

Well, I spent some time in the city, and nothing ever happened to me. Q.E.D.

…in another statistical breakthrough, I went to El Salvador in 1988. Nothing happened to me there either. So much for the ‘civil war,’ eh?

Why is it important that the Russians not abandon Donbas? Russia is vast and underpopulated. Couldn’t the Russian speaking population of Donbas (the ones who want to be Russian citizens) be resettled inside Russia and they could do their Russian thing there? I realize it’s not optimal but it wasn’t optimal for the Germans of Konigsberg or the Finns of Karelia or the Anglo-Irish of southern Ireland and so on to have to leave either. Is this war about people or is it about territory? Why does Russia need more territory when it is already so vast?

Speaking of Korea: more anti-Asian violence to blame on white people.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/03/horrifying-robber-body-slams-helpless-texas-woman-to-the-ground-leaving-her-paralyzed-video/

Go see for yourself. Russia’s affluent decile is almost entirely concentrated in Moscow, with some capital in St Petersburg and Sochi. That’s why Moscow is objectively a fantastic city to visit. The Russian “Federation” is centralized to a degree that makes France look good.

Maybe the best comparison is the UK, which also has an issue with a rich metropolis hoarding wealth while people in smaller provincial towns live in some of the most abject poverty in Western Europe.

But the RF is even worse than that. There is no Edinburgh or Bristol in Russia. Moscow is the be all and end all.

One aspect of Ukrainian revulsion towards Russia that rarely gets discussed is that Ukraine, for all its flaws, is still a more decentralized country where citizens have a voice in local government and local governments are still seen as shields against Kiev. Russian speaking Ukrainians don’t want to be ruled by elites in Moscow. This seems like a sentiment that rural and small town Americans should understand.

That is a very Canadian image!

Canada is the most Ukrainian country outside of Europe, perhaps outside of Ukraine.

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Putin doesn’t actually give a shit about the Russians of Donbas or for that matter the Russians of Russia.

Sadly, objective reality has no influence on your thinking.

Political leaders are graded on a curve. Based on objective evidence, which political leader has overseen more improvement in the country that he or she has led over the past 25 years than President Putin has improved Russia?

Name that political leader, please. Provide the objective evidence.

Better yet, let’s ask ChatGPT a couple of questions:

1) Based on objective evidence such as increased agricultural production, increased industrial production, increased lifespan, increased per capita income, reduced infant mortality, and other economic and social criteria, how much specific economic and social improvement has resulted in Russia (the Russian Federation) since 1999?

2) How many languages does President Putin of Russia speak?

(ChatGPT answers appear below, after the MORE tag)

Have you ever actually read any of President Putin’s many detailed speeches on economic and social policy? Have you ever actually observed him in lengthy, detailed interviews (e.g., Oliver Stone’s) and other impromptu debates and discussions?

Has any American president even tried to learn one foreign language, let alone learn several? Has any British or American politician ever given a lengthy, detailed policy address to the Bundestag in German, as President Putin has done?

Please, your nonsense about the “Russian Empire” is rich, coming from a NeoCon supporter of an out-of-control NeoCon MIC that has resulted in what, 700+, or is it now 800+ (hard to keep track in a real empire) NeoCon military bases around the world.

Finally, President Putin’s family lived through the Siege of Leningrad. As the overtly Nazi Azov Batallion and other motley fascists and German tanks attack Russia yet again, President Putin needs no lectures from the likes of you about Hitler.

There must be a fair and equitable peace settlement that satisfies the security concerns of both countries, namely:

1) Ukraine must withdraw all of its troops from east of the Dnieper and forever renounce NATO/EEC membership.

2) President Putin must make a solemn and binding promise that he will never, without provocation, attack, invade or otherwise threaten Ukrainian territory west of the river.

“Canada is the most Ukrainian country outside of Europe, perhaps outside of Ukraine.”

And that wasn’t really a problem until recently. Having the grandchild of an Axis collaborator call us Nazis and declare martial law on us has been a real treat. I haven’t been able to eat a perogie since.

Maybe more like Manchuria.

Unlike Ukraine, Korean civilization was pretty distinct with clear boundaries. Once Japan was out, it was clear what Korea is and where its borders are. Only reason why Korea became an issue was because US insisted on division with Soviets taking only the upper half. Despite both leaders, north and south, being puppets, they wanted a united country because the division was imposed from above. And the final decision to end the war was wholly decided by the big powers, esp. US and China(that entered to save the north, if only as buffer).

In contrast, the Manchuria situation was more like Ukraine today. Manchurian identity and culture, like those of Ukraine, have long been ambiguous. They were distinct from the Chinese but also part of Chinese civilization, especially after Manchus became the ruling dynasty over China. Rise of modern Chinese nationalism both vilified Manchurian rule but also insisted on Manchuria as an integral part of China. But China was weak and divided by warlords while Japan grew strong and moved into Manchuria, ostensibly to defend Manchurian autonomy from China(and Russia) but really to colonize it as part of the Japanese empire. Plenty of Manchurians were outraged by Japanese influenced and sided with China, but others eagerly collaborated with the Japanese(with Koreans serving as co-colonizers alongside the Japanese).

Likewise, Ukrainian culture and history are ambiguous. In large part, neither Ukraine nor Russia can be understood apart from one another. Also, what exactly is Ukraine and its borders? A big chunk used to belong to the Polish Empire. Poles sought to Polishize Ukrainians like Germans tried to Germanize the Poles, and plenty of Ukrainians took the bait. Later, a huge chunk of what was given to Poland was added to the Soviet Union.
Thus, West Ukraine vs East Ukraine was different from North Korea vs South Korea. Whereas in the case of Korea, a single civilization was divided in two, Ukraine was a case of two cultures forced into one, something that never quite caught on, leading to all sorts of political troubles after the fall of the Soviet Union. (The Great Famine didn’t affect what is now West Ukraine because it was part of Poland then.)

One reason for high levels of corruption is the distrust and division among ‘Ukrainians’, with half looking westward and the rest looking eastwards. ‘Western’ Ukrainians tolerate corruption as long as it’s on their side, and ‘Eastern’ Ukrainians have done likewise. Solzhenitsyn saw the troubles ahead when the Soviet Union began to break apart and insisted some of Ukraine be added to Russia as it was integral to Russian history. Because of the history of tug of war among empires, Ukrainian identity is ambiguous to this day, expressed by the need of certain Ukrainians to import nationalism from abroad(even the extreme kind like Aryanism and Nazism) to rile up patriotic fervor. These Ukrainians define themselves against Russia but aren’t clear what they are for, all the more troublesome because Ukrainian culture makes little sense minus an integral connection to Russia.

In the end, Koreans had no say whatsoever in how the war ended. But the fate of Ukraine will depend largely on what the various Ukrainians want and which side they want to support. Obviously, those in Crimea and Donbass region want to be with Russia. Clearly, most of Western Ukraine want to be aligned with Poland the the West. Some of the areas in between are more complicated. Some are clearly pro-Russian, but if Russians were to enter those areas, they might trigger more aggressive counter-responses from the West. But even the West has troubles, partly because the Ukrainian economy is centered more in the east and because Poland is eyeing parts of Ukraine through reconquesky lens.

Indeed, the reason why Jews were able to manipulate Ukraine so easy is because of the real divisions. Divide and rule is easier with diversity. In this sense, Ukraine is also somewhat like Yugoslavia, still a troubled area in Europe. ‘Yugoslavian’ identity, like the ‘Ukrainian’ identity, was never a clear thing and, sadly, Tito failed to achieve what Bismarck did in unifying the various German regions together. Prussians had the power and prestige to win respect from the other Russians, whereas the Serbians failed to play this role under communism.

In the end, Japan lost all of Manchuria which is now wholly integrated with China.
I don’t see Ukraine going that way, but Russia will likely gain a hegemonic foothold over the eastern part of Ukraine and force neutrality on the Western part(which may lose a chunk to Poland). The problem will likely be more resolved than Yugoslavia but never as fully as Manchuria, which under Han Chinese CCP was fully absorbed into China. Mongolia, wrested from the Chinese Empire by the Russian empire, is a different matter. But it seems to be integrating more with China than with Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union.

cuck fears of Russian threats

………..You mean the use of nuclear weapons, right , is that the “cuck fear” of which you speak.

It’s a fair point that maybe population movements could be part of a settlement of this conflict, as it has been in others.

Is this war about people or is it about territory?

Russia’s objectives were Donbas and Crimea + neutral Ukraine. Even if we assume Donbas was about people rather than territory and therefore can be settled by population movement, that still leaves Crimea and neutral Ukraine. Since Crimea includes the Russian naval base at the strategic port of Sevastopol, that looks very much about territory, so population transfers won’t work.

As for Ukrainian neutrality … if NATO will agree to it okay, but otherwise Russia either has to accept NATO in Galicia or change Kiev’s regime. I don’t know the over/under on that.

Then the Western political class will be truly isolated, and will thrash around violently in its final spasms of rage and denial. It will attempt to inflict upon us all the vengeance it could not inflict upon the world. But that is the moment of hope: one more acute crisis, and then normalcy returns. It will be up to all good people to fight the Battle of Bedford Falls, sacrificing to make their own towns and cities work while the speared walrus gurgles and dies.

This. The monster is mortally wounded now. All we can hope for is that not too many innocent people are killed by its thrashing tail before it finally expires.

Sorry to say, but the problem is really the American (neocon) mentality. Ukraine would be nothing without US support.

Americans freak out about a Chinese weather balloon and shoot it down. Then in panic they start shooting lots of random “objects”.

Now the Russians apparently downed an American drone that was snooping in tbe Black Sea, probably to pass info to the Ukrainians. The Americans are saying that the downing was “reckless, unprofessional and environmentally unsound.”

But if it had been a Russian drone over Alaska? The American government would get hysterical and probably start World War III.

American neocons are insane, and they must be removed from power before they destroy all of us.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-64957792

Lying isn’t nice.

Ukraine and Azov attacks on Donbas from 2014 to 2021 led to 3,400 civilian deaths and around 7,000 injuries.

https://ukraine.un.org/sites/default/files/2022-02/Conflict-related%20civilian%20casualties%20as%20of%2031%20December%202021%20%28rev%2027%20January%202022%29%20corr%20EN_0.pdf

They understand that this war is about restoring the Great Russian Empire as a civilization that stands apart from the West, about gathering the Russian speaking people under one flag inside of Russian World.

What exactly is wrong with that?

Also, what’s the neocon excuse for the war? As best as I can tell, the neocon goals are:

1) Hurt Russia because of a very personal ethnic grudge

2) Get Ukrainians killed because they hate them too

3) Screw over Germany specifically and Europe in general

Granted, the neocons are succeeding on goals 2 and 3. Goal #1, however, isn’t turning out so well. US prestige has been badly damaged and the demise of treasuries as the global reserve asset has been hastened, though it’s still a long way off. Oh, and Russia is winning the war. That’s very clear now.

The neocons have also driven the world’s biggest resource country into the arms of the world’s biggest manufacturer. Genius!

Finally, nobody but the idiotic Europeans (and Steve) trust the neocons anymore. The rest of world is finally realizing what a bunch of sociopaths the neocons are and trying everything that they can to gain their freedom. Again, it won’t happen soon, but it’ll happen a lot faster than it would have if the neocons didn’t push Russia into this war and throw everything that we have against them.

What neocons don’t understand is that China doesn’t want to take over the world, neither does Russia. They and the rest of the world don’t want war with the US. They just want to ignore us, to not have to deal us.

But like Glenn Close in Fatal Attraction, the neocons won’t be ignored. They live to meddle in other people’s business. The neocons don’t give two farts about Ukraine or Taiwan. They care about being able to tell the world what to do and to force their insane version of culture down their throats.

The rest of world now understands that the neocons will never – never – leave them alone unless they’re forced to.

Neither side was fully equipped with up to date armaments and state of the art training for combined operations.

“You go to war with the army you have.”

Neither side was able to effectively use air power.

Antiaircraft missiles are cheaper than aircraft. Also true over the Taiwan Strait.

The whole reason tanks were invented was to punch thru trench lines.

Right. Which is why it is striking that they don’t seem to do that much anymore.

The Russian anti-tank weapons are not fully effective against state of the art Western armor and defensive weapons such as the Israeli Trophy system.

Emphasis added.

Western tank ~$10,000,000.
RPG ~$1000.

I hope we never get to find out.

Ditto.

Is this war about people or is it about territory?

It’s about neither. Russians and Ukrainians are cousins and could live in peace without conflict, just like Russians and Belorussians do. But Ukrainians have an inferiority complex and a complicated history, and are being used by the U.S. as a cudgel against Russia. The country was in a de facto civil war since 2014, West vs East, already with American/NATO support to the Western side. Since Feb 2022, Russia had enough and decided to support more forcefully the Eastern side.

To my mind, Ukrainians are naive, if not dumb. The West won’t help them in the end. They are in all ways closer to Russia than they are to the West. Also, the West is an illusion. What is the West today, besides money? Multiculturalism and transgenders. In the long run, it’s better not to belong to the West. Eastern Europe should run away from the West, which right now is a machine that destroys countries from the inside.

I find it amazing that the following set of facts exist — and that many will not acknowledge them.

1. Prior to 1991, the history of Ukraine was always entwined with that of Russia. They only became distinct in the era when the Ukraine was the part of Russia that Poland ruled. It was in no sense an ‘independent country.’

This isn’t to say Russia should rule the Ukraine. It is to say it’s nonsense to pretend they are two completely separate and distinct countries. It’s not Russia and China. It’s not even Russia and Poland. It’s more like Pennsylvania and Virginia — to the extent that it’s like anything.

2. Post-1991, everyone from Kissinger on down kept saying,‘don’t admit the Ukraine to NATO; Russia won’t be able to take that.’

3. In December 2021, Putin said, ‘don’t admit the Ukraine to NATO; I won’t be able to take that.’

4. In succession, Blinken and Harris then invited the Ukraine to join NATO.

5. Hey: lookit that! Russia invaded the Ukraine!

6. …and just in time. Now Biden had something to say for himself at his State of the Union Address.

I’d been wondering what he would come up with.

Since Crimea includes the Russian naval base at the strategic port of Sevastopol, that looks very much about territory,

Russia had a long term lease on the Sevastopol base just as we have a lease on Guantanamo in Cuba. That was completely workable. Putin didn’t need to grab Crimea either any more than we need to occupy Cuba in order to maintain our base there.

As much as it pains the Ukrainians, they are probably not getting Crimea back (at least in the short run). If there is a deal to be made by the Chinese at all, it will involve Russia going back to its 1/22 borders and not further. Neither side is going to be willing to lose (much if any) territory vs. those borders. As the original article said, one of the things that made the Korean deal possible was that the borders were close to where they started. Of course the Russians would prefer that a cease fire be at their current position too but Ukraine will never agree to that given the current state of battle.

At this point, Ukraine is defacto a part of the EU and NATO. Any deal is going to involve Russia recognizing that. Otherwise Ukraine will consider a cease fire to be merely a pause while Russia rearms for round 3 of its piecemeal dismemberment of Ukraine.

If Putin didn’t understand before that (outside of the Donbas) Ukraine doesn’t really want to be part of Russian World, he must understand it now and accept the reality that it is not going back to the Russian sphere in his lifetime.

A $1,000 RPG is not effective against a modern tank equipped with explosive armor and so on. However a $26,000 Kornet might work on certain parts of the Abrams. Again you have to understand that American tactics would not involve sitting in one place and waiting for the Russian infantry to shoot Kornets at them.

Russia will not leave the Donbas, except by force.

You and neocons are delusional if you think that Russia would accept that deal. Russia considers the Donbas and Crimea Russian territory now. They’d no more agree to giving them up than they’d agree to give up Moscow.

Any peace deal with require at a bare minimum the US accepting 1) that the Donbas and Crimea are Russian territory and 2) Ukrainian neutrality.

Personally, I doubt that the Russians would even go for that. I suspect that they want eastern Ukraine either under their control or a demilitarized zone. The Russians correctly don’t trust the neocons to keep their world, so they’ll want a natural barrier between Russia and the West. Ukraine east of the river fits the bill perfectly.

lol. HackD proving once again he’s a fed.

I should have added that given that Kiev spent the previous eight years shelling the Donbas, it is not so clear why Kiev wants what they spent the previous years bombarding.

While it is the part battlefield most amenable to resolution by migration, why not let the Kiev loyalists migrate closer to their capital? Kiev should like that because then if the conflict restarts, they won’t accidentally bombard the “wrong” people anymore. The migrants should like it because then they are farther from the frontlines

Since Crimea is a territorial matter, the territorial land bridge to Crimea matters almost equally. So everything between Russia and Sevastopol is still a territorial matter. Since Sevastopol controls Russia’s warm water access to the world ocean, migrations and pledges aren’t going to ameliorate much there.

Ukraine will consider a cease fire to be merely a pause while Russia rearms

Since Kiev already bragged that’s why they feigned acceptance of the Minsk agreements, I guess they know whereof they speak.

Bardon, I agree with the first part–a bunch of commenters here have bought into some low-rent Putin’s the white savior b.s. (Seriously, Chechen war, millions of illegals from the ‘stans, muzzie asses in the air mooning Moscow, yeah Putin really cares about self-determination in the Donbas or the welfare of Russians. About as much a Joe Biden cares about Americans.) These guys are just cheap dates for Putin’s old-as-the-hills Russian imperialism. That is truly pathetic.

But the 2nd half of your comment is ridiculous.

Regardless of anything Russia is or isn’t doing, the African immivasion thing both
a) exists
and
b) is trivial for Western nations to stop. A few ships of Italian Navy alone could end this thing in an afternoon. (Ok, maybe a month to convince all Africans it was over.)

Your own excerpt:

Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni is on the defensive after more than 70 migrants drowned off Italy’s southern coast last month when a boat conveying them from north Africa capsized. In a hastily convened cabinet meeting in the Calabrian town of Cutro, near where the tragedy occurred, the premier pledged to further crack down on human traffickers.

But criticism over her handling of rescue operations and her government’s tough anti-migrant policies have continued to hound Meloni, with jostling from within the coalition making the situation worse.

… makes the point. “On the defensive”? “criticism” because a bunch of African invaders drowned?

It’s the fundamental job of the Italian leader to protect his country (yes, I know she’s a woman but it’s a man’s job) from invasion. If invaders die–BFD. The important thing is that they do not get to invade you. Staying in their own damn country is best. But dying is just as good from the perspective of Italians.

If the Italian people–and especially her coalition–do not stand with Meloni on keeping the African garbage out … that’s the problem. The symptom of a feminized, minoritarian brain-addled West.

And it’s got zero to do Putin’s stupid imperialist war.

Why does the United States need to meddle in the rest of the world’s business. Outside of nukes, there is zero threat to the US.

But, sure, let’s move millions of people from their ancestral homeland, businesses and homes. Also, the Donbas has a lot of natural resources and industry. Why give that up? If the Russians don’t take it, Blackstone will.

lol. Looks like HackD is either sockpuppetting or the feds are diverting more agents to hyping up their Team America World Police “fight to defend Ukraine!” war-mongering for the military-industrial complex.

Smells like desperation for the Boeing-and-RAND pro-Zelensky puppets and their corrupt bosses.

The US is doing too little because of cuck fears of Russian threats. Ukrainians should have gotten jets & missiles galore, ling since & Russian military facilities should have been destroyed & Russian citizens sent to shelters.

lol. Shut up, fed cuck.

We are not Team America World Police, and we are not here to help out Dementia Joe’s slush fund/NATO missile site.

Back to the RAND drawing room with you!

Russia just downed a US drone off the coast of Crimea. The Russian pilots didn’t fire on it but brought it down using other methods.

🇺🇸✈️🇷🇺The drone likely caused damage to the Russian aircraft as well – Pentagon pic.twitter.com/EHueZaUV5O

— AZ 🛰🌏🌍🌎 (@AZgeopolitics) March 14, 2023

RU MOD statement on the Reaper pic.twitter.com/ADzG3kXykL

— Russians With Attitude (@RWApodcast) March 14, 2023

Still not worth the bones of a single Pomeranian grenadier.

Jack D says the Russians can all move to the balmy climes of the Sakha Republic.

You just want our money, you insufferable beggar. If you don’t have a Hapsburg, Romanov, or Ottoman adult around, it’s geopolitical toddler time.

0/10. Get some better material.

A lot of that is correct, but you can also simply see Putin as not an enemy of America, but rather an ally of one faction and enemy of another. That’s how I saw Putin 2015-2021.

What the Putinfans miss now is that invading Ukraine was an indefensible and objectively evil act. It was his decision to ruin what was looking like a new, Greater-Europe right-populist axis with Trump and Putin as co-leaders. He’s abandoned this to be the junior member of a Putin-Xi anti-West block.

A $1,000 RPG is not effective against a modern tank

How about 10,000 RPGs, which is the number the tank must resist to break even? And the US/NATO does not like to break even, but to dominate with 1:5 or 1:10 casualty ratios.

a $26,000 Kornet might work

Modern tank vs. 400 Kornets?

Buying Kornet shares on PredictIt (or however that meme works)

In WWII/Great Patriotic War, all sides found that infantry with light antitank weapons could stop a tank by immobilizing the tracks, which are still the Achilles’ Heel of armor. The turret can still shoot of course, but unless their side is already winning, the crew become very uncomfortable since an immobile tank is a sitting duck for artillery, which impacts the thinner deck armor.

According to a 2020 Forbes story, Reapers are now priced at $32 million, more than an AH64 helicopter.

That’s an expensive incident. The Russian story is that the Reaper was on a course for Russian territorial waters with its transponders switched off.

If that was so there may not be a Flightradar24 trace. Anyone know?

AD – what I call truly pathetic – in its original meaning of “very sad” is carrying water for the same people to whom in domestic matters you’re totally opposed.

Do you think they become good guys outside of the US?

At this point, Ukraine is defacto a part of the EU and NATO.

Ukraine and its youthful leadership ought to be congratulated on their creative strategy that has resulted in the actual member countries of Nato and EU doing all the heavy lifting for Ukraine while it gets the benefits of full membership without getting its hands dirty.

https://babel.ua/en/texts/91428-volodymyr-shamil-sheredeha-was-injured-in-the-war-and-has-not-been-able-to-walk-since-he-overcame-depression-was-in-a-psychiatric-hospital-twice-and-now-he-helps-other-wounded-fighters-a-long-intervie?utm_source=page&utm_medium=publication

I’m not sure that a Trump-Putin axis ever existed in the 1st place. It might have existed more in the fantasies of both the American Left and the American Right than it resisted in reality.

Putin acts (in this order) in what he perceives as his own interest, the interest of his inner circle and lastly the interests of Russia in general. He does not give two shits about anything or anyone else, including Donald Trump, the white race, worldwide Christianity, etc. He views everything and everyone else as objects to be manipulated in order to further the interests of #1. Sometimes such manipulation consists of flattery, other times it may consist of violence. Questions of morality do not weigh in the balance at all, only the likelihood of success vs failure. When Biden was elected, Putin probably concluded that flattery wasn’t going to work (and that Biden was weak and indecisive) so he decided to resort to violence instead.

I don’t know how Trump would have reacted if he had been reelected and Putin invaded Ukraine. According to Trump, IF he had been reelected, Putin would not have invaded in the 1st place. This is might or might not be true, but if Putin had invaded I don’t think that Trump would have just shrugged his shoulders the way some people here would have preferred.

You guys have nothing but time on your hands, evidently, to pontificate, argue and discuss things about which you actually know very little.

Good God, this barbershop has gotten old and worn. I Buzz my own head now. Why don’t y’all just play checkers?

Bye.

“neocons have no stop condition other than total defeat of Russia.”

But why?

As I see it, (at the risk of repeating myself…) this war is the biggest money-laundering operation in the history of the world.

Thus, fake president/real gangster Joe Biden (aka Pal Joey) is stuffing his pockets with billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars from White citizens.

Comedian/real gangster Vladimir Zelensky is likewise stuffing his pockets with billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars from White citizens.

U.S. armament manufacturers are also stuffing their pockets with billions of U.S. taxpayer dollars from White citizens.

But that still doesn’t explain the neocon role. Operatives like Bill Kristol don’t work for nothing, but I don’t see Pal Joey sharing his booty with Kristol—too cheap. Ditto for Zelensky, who is not just cheap, but even more arrogant than Biden. That leaves the armanent manufacturers.

If Bill Kristol isn’t getting paid off by the armanent manufacturers, the only other option I can think of would be the dnc. He could even be getting paid off by both.

Do you have an alternative hypothesis?

That must be some strange Slavic custom, insulting the people you’re begging from. Maybe y’all should reconstitute the Austro-Hungarian Empire, I don’t know.

Our vassals need diversity and it will come to them quickly.

Eastern Europe is too white.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RealGemmaOD/status/1633392244894859265/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1633392244894859265&currentTweetUser=RealGemmaOD

Since Crimea is a territorial matter, the territorial land bridge to Crimea matters almost equally. So everything between Russia and Sevastopol is still a territorial matter. Since Sevastopol controls Russia’s warm water access to the world ocean, migrations and pledges aren’t going to ameliorate much there.

You shouldn’t have stopped there. What about the Bosporus? Doesn’t Putin need that too?

Doesn’t Putin need a neutral Ukraine as a buffer state between it and NATO? Does Putin need Russian troops to be stationed everywhere east of the Elbe in order to protect Russia from invasion? Stalin did.

Once you adopt this logic, there’s no end to Russian World. Putin famously joked that Russia’s borders don’t end:

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/vladimir-putin-jokes-that-russian-borders-dont-end-1629868

He wasn’t really joking.

It’s easy for Putin to give up Donbas which was never really his to begin with. For Ukraine to tear off its limbs in order to feed the Russian bear is a completely different matter.

Now you are just being “cute”. Being cute like this is not going to lead to a peace deal. Russia has to recognize that its military incursion has been a failure and there is no immediate path to victory in Ukraine. Obviously Putin knows this on some level but he still hopes to salvage something out of this.

Maybe Xi can talk some sense into him as to what it is he can realistically hope to salvage. Maybe make him understand that China is not in a position to back him with weaponry but that the West is going to continue to arm Ukraine. China would like to get back to normal trade relationships with Europe so that they can become rich enough and strong enough to dominate Asia and Putin in interfering with their plans. They would like this war to go away.

Does Korea thus provide a model for ending the Ukraine War?

Since Korean armistice only suspended rather than ended hostilities ,with the result that North and South Korea are technically still at war some 70 years later, I wouldn’t consider it a good model for anything.

What the Putinfans miss now is that invading Ukraine was an indefensible and objectively evil act.

lol. No, liar.

Putin invaded because (1) NATO was attempting to put long-range missles in Ukraine to threaten major Russian cities; (2) the mass looting and corruption the U.S. was doing in Ukraine, including installing a pro-U.S. puppet regime; and (3) the Donbass and Crimea.

That doesn’t make Putin evil or good. It makes him a politician acting on behalf of his nation’s political interests. And the U.S. shouldn’t even be in Ukraine. We are not Team America World Police.

Deep State lying won’t work here, fed.

Don’t bother arguing with JackD, he’s a warmongering fed, designed to push the neocon/neolib military-industrial world view. JackD wants war at all costs, to boost his masters’ bottom line.

In short, he’s a plant. Ignore and ridicule him.

Russians flew their MiGs with Chinese and North Korean markings, as their proxies lacked the expertise and training.

Steve, comments in mods, thanks.

Ukrainians are Russians.

Congratulations. You proved that your nick-name is more than adequate.

I very much doubt he’s a plant. But he is most definitely an Ukrainian Jew whose American founding mythology begins with Ellis Island, not the American Revolution. Very, very different perspective.

Does Korea thus provide a model for ending the Ukraine War?

No.

Preserving North Korea as a buffer state to keep hostile U.S. land forces at a reasonable distance from the Chinese border was worth a lot to the Chinese. Mao would have far preferred to get the U.S. off the Korean Peninsula entirely, which would have been a much better buffer that eliminated any avenue for future ground attack entirely. But the Chinese were fighting the U.S. military directly and simply lacked the ability to push the U.S. out, given its superiority in resources and firepower. So they had to settle for half-a-loaf, i.e. half of Korea.

Russia, by contrast, definitely has the option of just taking the whole loaf. Contrary to Deep-State/MSM talking points Russia is winning the attrition and arms production war decisively. If they just keep doing what they are doing long enough they can’t fail to win completely — i.e., take over all of Ukraine and/or dictate terms to whatever defeated rump state is left to sign a paper.

Our idiot neocon overlords have made certain that Russia has to pursue this course. Russian Plan A was to diplomatically maneuver to keep Ukraine unaligned and/or not heavily militarized. That failed because we staged a coup to turn Ukraine into a de facto Nuland puppet and then proceeded to arm it to the teeth. We rejected the Minsk accords. We rejected Putin’s invitation to negotiate a new security framework in December 2021. We rejected the tentative peace deal to end the war reached in April 2022 at Istanbul.

Instead the neocons have announced that there purpose is to destroy Russia to the maximum extent possible. And that as long as Ukraine exists it will be a U.S. proxy, armed to the teeth, and with a never ending mission to attack and undermine Russia and reconquer the Donbas and Crimea. Moreover, history shows that the U.S. is “agreement-incapable” and will merely exploit any “peace” for the purpose of rearming to re-launch the war at a more advantageous time down the road.

Strategic decision making is not necessarily that hard — You just have to be able to put yourself in your opponent’s shoes and think how things look from his perspective, and how he will act accordingly. But if you are a neocon, you just assume that you are morally righteous and omnipotent, and that you can’t f*ck up anyway because the media will always cover for you and just blame evil Putin-Hitler for everything bad that happens.

The neocons have forced Russia into one conclusion: Finish Ukraine once and for all, or fight it under far worse circumstances later. It’s a no-brainer for Russia. The best historical analogy is not the U.S. vs. China in Korea, but King Arthur vs. The Black Knight.

In that case, there is no deal to be had. The deal that you describe is not going to be acceptable to the Ukrainians. And, whether you like it or not, the West is going to keep backing them, at least until the end of the Biden Administration. So Russia is just going to have to keep sending its young men to die in Ukraine.

Apparently the prisons are empty now so Wagner is trying to recruit in skinhead type sports clubs and in high schools. There is some talk that Putin or his circle are purposely allowing Wagner to fight to the death in order to weaken them and Prigozhin. What kind of country is Russia that it has warlord armies? What normal country allows these to exist?

This is why there has been no peace yet and why there may be no peace for some time. The two sides are just too far part – there is no overlap between the deal that the Ukrainians would take and the deal that the Russians will give. And yet it is Ukraine’s decision, not ours. Xi is going to try to act as honest broker and push the sides closer together but as long as Russia maintains these kind of unobtainable demands (the horse has left the barn – Ukraine is never voluntarily returning to Russian World, not even as a puppet state or as a Finland unless Putin can roll his tanks to Lviv and he can’t. Not even Finland is Finlandized anymore. The Russians are not powerful enough to Finlandize anyone except Belarus.) he’s going to come up empty handed.

1) NATO was attempting to put long-range missles in Ukraine to threaten major Russian cities;

Lies and propaganda with not a shred of evidence you could produce to support them. NATO wasn’t installing any missiles in Ukraine, in fact NATO countries like Germany were doing everything they could to keep Ukraine out of NATO.

(2) the mass looting and corruption the U.S. was doing in Ukraine, including installing a pro-U.S. puppet regime;

Even if true, how is that any of Putin’s business? Also, pro-US puppets are problematic but pro-Russian puppets like Lukashenko are fine with you, I presume?

and (3) the Donbass and Crimea.

Crimea?!? Putin had to invade Ukraine in 2022 because he illegally annexed Crimea in 2014? Does that make any sense?

I think what is going on is that the American right has lost its mind. They are beginning to see that Trump was perhaps their high water mark and that under the current system they have nothing to look forward to, especially in the blue states but perhaps the whole country to the extent that it is controlled by the Democrat Permanent Government. From now on, people like them are going to be a despised minority and our new national heroes will be trannies and black ladies whose hair you must not touch.

This recent article discusses the effects of high immigration, diversity, and one-party rule in California. The rest of the USA is heading the same way.

https://www.unz.com/article/unherd-california-swamped-by-third-world-corruption-why-and-what-can-be-done/

(The reality is not that bad but this is how they perceive it).

It is not “that bad” in that the existence of white Americans will still be tolerated. It is “that bad” in that, without a shot being fired, the USA will have become a one-party state. After that it will be impossible to change anything by voting. It will also be impossible to change anything by any other means, because the country will retain the trappings of democracy, any opposition to which would be treason.

The Russians are clearly lying as usual. Drones don’t fall into the water as a result of “sharp maneuvering”. What does that even means?

The Russia, either accidentally or on purpose (there is a long Russian aviation tradition of ramming enemy aircraft) made contact with the drone or its prop with one of their aircraft and the drone went down as a result.

Russia has no right to declare international waters to be “no fly zones”.

The Russians were fortunate that this was a drone and no Americans were killed or this would be a much bigger deal. They are probably going to get away with this once but if they make this a habit it’s going to be trouble. The US has purposely held off on arming the Ukrainians with longer range weapons so far and declined to declare Ukraine a Russian “no fly” zone as Ukraine asked, but if Russia pisses off the Pentagon sufficiently this may changed.

Joe Rogan & Russell Brand on Epstein

Lets do the math-say conservatively on average 20 people per week went to the island over the 31 years.Thats:

20 x 52 x 31 = 32,240

Thats 32,240 politicians,celebrities, scientists & royals etc. All compromised on camera with kids#Epstein pic.twitter.com/72lY0d4lUv

— Concerned Citizen (@cotupacs) March 5, 2023

I’m seven minutes into watching L.A. Confidential, based on a recommendation from here (and it’s massive IMDB rating). But I switched off. Boring. Voiceover. Multiple main characters. A bunch of stylized actors preening. Story not immersive.

If Putin didn’t understand before that (outside of the Donbas) Ukraine doesn’t really want to be part of Russian World, he must understand it now and accept the reality that it is not going back to the Russian sphere in his lifetime.

I don’t think he understands it now. I have read his last two big speeches & these are babbling of an incoherent mind, similar to Hitler’s will.

As I said before, after poring over his speech- this is an absurdist fantasy.

Putin’s “thoughts” are- if he is sincere – these:

Russia is neither “white” nor non-white. He doesn’t think in these categories. For instance, he’s constantly drumming against Western imperialism, which he thinks began with the Age of Exploration.

His chief devil is not very well defined, but it seems to be a combination of Western Christianity (Catholicism & Protestantism) & now, perhaps, Anglo-Saxonistan which is, in his fantasies, dominated by WASPs. It is not clear how he treats other Europeans, but his image of the West is confusing- it seems that “West” is a combination of Poles, French, Germans & Swedes, Russia’s historical invaders; on the other hand, he easily switches between centuries & mixes the 17th C with the 21st C.

Putin’s narrative is also contradictory. It is not clear whether historical invaders of Russia (Poles, French, Germans) are now the threatening & potentially Russia-conquering West, or just puppets of the global WASP power. Anyway, all Western Christians, from the Portuguese to the English, are racists. Putin’s version of the contemporary world is that “good guys” are colored races (China, India, Africa, blacks in the US,..). Russia, in his view, is not “white” (whatever this may mean).

As far as religious culture goes, Western Christianity is the enemy. It is only Eastern, Orthodox Christianity that he thinks of “defending”. Also, his reinterpretation of history is laughable: he states that historical “friends”, buddies in Russia are Eastern Orthodox, Jews and Muslims (with a smattering of Buddhists).

For anyone who knows anything about the history of Russia- this is absurd. Before Communism, Jews and Muslims were considered irreconcilable aliens & enemies. He’s lying about trivial facts.

Then, his fantasies about WASPs, now, have nothing to do with reality. He fantasizes that tranny, gay & Globohomo ideology is basically WASPy, or “white” tool for domination over colored races, Russia & a sword wielded by US “whites” to conquer the world & to exploit it.

Globohomo ideology is, in his definition, the invention of globalist Anglo-Saxonists to subdue Africans, Asians & other coloreds- and, of course, Russia, which is a natural ally of the East and South.

His world-view is simply idiotic.

It can be easily decoded if one reads his last two big speeches & watches short videos (when he says, in translation, Christianity, he means only Eastern Orthodoxy; also, when he talks about races, and white race especially, he doesn’t include Russians in the definition).

Putin’s core world-view is that of an Eastern Orthodox Euro-Asian Jihadist- basically, this is the same as Dugin- consumed with hatred of not just post-modern Globohomo West, but of the historical European identity.

If they just keep doing what they are doing long enough they can’t fail to win completely

Depends what you mean by “long enough”. At their current rate of advance they should reach Kyiv sometime around 2092. Because there are apparently insane warmongers like you who still have Putin’s ear, there’s not going to be a peace deal until Russia completely collapses. The list of countries that “couldn’t fail to win completely” and yet in fact failed to win at all is very long. It’s OK to loudly thump your chest like this in the hope of persuading your enemy to take a deal but if you drink your own Kool Aid (maybe with a little vodka in it) you are doomed.

Have you ever actually read any of President Putin’s many detailed speeches on economic and social policy? Have you ever actually observed him in lengthy, detailed interviews (e.g., Oliver Stone’s) and other impromptu debates and discussions?

To be fair to Jack, you can’t both post at the rate he does (926 comments year to date) AND be well-read and informed.

Russia agrees with you that a diplomatic solution isn’t out there. They just stated that they will pursue a military solution.

You’re correct that Ukraine will keep fighting, but you’re wrong that we’ll be able to keep supporting them. We don’t have the equipment and munitions.

Also, both Manchuria and the Ukraine industrialized earlier than their Chinese and Russian neighbors respectively, but both have since been overtaken by their formerly lagging neighbors, and are now themselves the laggards.

At their current rate of advance they should reach Kyiv sometime around 2092.

The “acres under control” count is currently irrelevant. Once the Ukrainian army is destroyed the Russians can go as fast or as slow as they want in occupying the country. Talking points aside, I’m sure you know that.

Because there are apparently insane warmongers like you who still have Putin’s ear, there’s not going to be a peace deal until Russia completely collapses.

You are right. There will not no peace deal because Russia is never going to “collapse.” As I mentioned, “warmongers” like me would have taken advantage of the peace overtures by the Russians in 2015, 2021 and April ’22. “Peace-lovers” like you rejected them all because you thought (incorrectly) that you could fight it out and win.

Now the only way to a lasting peace is through a complete Russian victory. (Although the neocon are no doubt already drawing up plans for funding an Afghanistan-style guerilla war.) The complete destruction of Ukraine is just neocon chickens coming home to roost.

The Russians are clearly lying as usual. Drones don’t fall into the water as a result of “sharp maneuvering”. What does that even means?

The New York Times is reporting that intelligence sources say is was some pro-Donbas group, 6 men on a yacht flying a kite, that brought the MQ-9 Reaper drone down.

Give me a break, he’s a definitely paid plant fed.

Every time some kind of profitable military-industrial complex event is in the news, he’s shilling for it like its his job to an audience on Unz.com that is very much anti-war and and anti-foreign war. Or he’s defending fed agents when they get accused of true actions, such as causing the Jan 6th riots or murdering the people in Waco to an audience that largely believes the opposite.

Who would take that kind of abuse and keep coming back for more? A paid fed plant, designed to derail, disinform, and demoralize the opposition and (they hope) to convince some well-meaning but unconvinced stragglers of the neocon/neolib position through blatant lying.

In short, the only debate is which fed agency/contractor he works for, not if.

Ukrainians are Russians. They speak the same language, share the same ethnicity, eat the same food.

Ukrainians are not Russian and don’t speak the same language. Ukrainian is its own language with its own alphabet (not exactly the same as Russian), altough many Ukrainians speak Russian the same way many Dutch people speak pretty fluent English out of necessity but that doesn’t make them English.

Arguably though Russians are Ukrainian since Russia itself is just an offshot of medieval Kievan Rus – a state, as the name would suggest, that was centered around Kiev.

The difference between the SMO and the Korean conflict was that the US, who instigated the Korean conflict, bombed every North Korean city to rubble and killed roughly 15% of the Nork population, soldiers and civilians alike, which is a very good reason why the Norks go to great pains to keep a credible deterrent against a repeat.

The similarity between the two is that the US cleaved off territory that it wished to keep on its side by installing a puppet regime and then using that puppet regime to provoke attack by its adversary.

Getting the theme here, Steve?

The problem with people like Dave here is that they believe in simplistic world views.

Some on Unz see Jews behind everything (including the “US Hegemon”). Others merely the US as a political entity (or both).

I’m as much of an opponent of US world meddling as anyone here, but to always default to a “everyone is a puppet of the US unless they are an announced foe” is silly and wrong.

This scenario imagines all other nations are mere puppets or helpless foes of the US Giant.

Noble Xi and Putin are the only ones who have the bravery to resist!

What rubbish! Does Dave or any other advocates of this idea actually know anyone in China or Russia? Anyone who isn’t some govt. internet troll? Anyone brave enough to escape the Hegemon and find freedom in China or Russia? Other than poor Ed Snowden, all the escapees are coming from the other direction.

Invading and meddling with neighbors and others has been a long Russian/USSR/Russian tendency going back to the Czars. Claiming false narratives is Putin’s stock in trade.

You don’t have to back endless war in Ukraine to see the foolishness of the idea that the US is the Great Satan.

Reality is far more complex.

Are there any real democratic voices or political opposition in Russia or China (not in exile)? Any?

There are plenty of Biden and/or US foreign policy critics here, and democratic political opposition to Biden, despire Merritt Garland’s police state goons. The FSB they are not. Not yet.

But for too many here, willing blindness makes nasty dictators into heroes.

Zelensky didn’t invade Russia. Portraying poor Vlad Putin as some helpless victim of NATO is laughable and sick. Who’s next, poor Chinese strongman Xi? Kin Jon Un?

I’m in favor of a truce/settlement in Ukraine. Perhaps Xi will provide some cover for Putin to pull back and accept his fate as a would-be czar, now weakling loser.

Of course, such thinking requires more brain cells than comic book heroes and villains.

lol. Wow, the feds are really out in force this week! Must be either to gear up for another Nordstream false flag or to try to distract from the epic banking collapse in the last 7 days!

NATO wasn’t installing any missiles in Ukraine, in fact NATO countries like Germany were doing everything they could to keep Ukraine out of NATO.

Note the fed false equivalency: “putting missiles in a country” v. “letting them join NATO.”

Russia publicly stated that Ukraine in NATO was a hard line. So weasels like raga10’s masters publicly claimed they weren’t allowing Ukraine in NATO but installed a puppet government and tried to sneak missiles in. Russia wasn’t fooled and invaded.

Nice try with the lie, fed!

Even if true, how is that any of Putin’s business?

“Why should Russia care if one of their potential great opponents corrupts and controls the country next door to Russia, which is also filled with Russians in certain areas and is also a vital food market for Russia?”

You beclown yourself, fed.

Also, pro-US puppets are problematic but pro-Russian puppets like Lukashenko are fine with you, I presume?

As your masters made clear during the Trump-Russia Hoax, fed, interfering in another country’s elections is the WORST THING EVA. Therefore, installing a pro-U.S. puppet government via an actual coup is the WORST THING EVA and the U.S. is to blame, full stop.

Crimea?!? Putin had to invade Ukraine in 2022 because he illegally annexed Crimea in 2014? Does that make any sense?

Putin moved to secure an important Russian port that the pro-U.S. corrupt puppet Ukrainian government was making noise about taking back while protecting Russians being shelled by the pro-U.S. corrupt puppet Ukrainian government.

And you’re done. Move along, fed, you’ve been exposed.

I much enjoy the Jack D – Bardon Kaldian counterpoint which occupies so much of this thread.

But I must ask – where are HA and John Johnson? Aren’t they due on shift yet?

Together they could really boogie.

L.A. Confidential is a poor man’s Chinatown. It has a cheesy happy ending too.

But why?

I wonder too.

Do you have an alternative hypothesis?

Not one that I can show evidence for. The ethnic animus explanation is popular around here. Maybe there’s something to it. I don’t know.

All men are to an extent creatures of habit. A lot of these people’s habits were formed in the Cold War, in which context they make sense. Given the opportunity and platform to reassert those habits, they do it, just ’cause that’s what people are like I guess. I think Brzezinski is an example of this, and also probably of ethnic animus. Maybe Bill Kristol is trying to show off for his dad. I don’t know. It’s hard to miss the overrepresentation of Jewish people among the Ukraine mongers. Maybe it’s a sense of solidarity with the Ukraine’s Jewish-tilted government and oligarchs. I doubt they can all be on regime payola (not that the regime can’t afford it, but sharing isn’t their way).

Maybe it’s one of those things where disparate interests happen to find a common cause: superannuated Cold Warriors, ethnic animusers, war profiteers, tribal fellow-feeling, whatever peculiar neurosis Bill Kristol suffers from, etc.: in other circumstances they could be at each others’ throats, but on this subject they all see a way to benefit themselves, so they wrap themselves in the flag and away we go!

OK, then, maybe it really is that bad, but America’s military and economic destruction and a Russian triumph in Ukraine isn’t going to make it any better. Hopefully the right are not thinking along the self-destructive lines of Hitler in his last days – if I can’t have Germany, then no one can.

The more optimistic view is that they think that by “increasing the contradictions” you bring on the collapse of the current regime (which otherwise you have no chance of defeating in its current iteration – see Jan 6) and then you ride in to pick up the pieces (or at least a good sized piece of your own).

Chances of success are very low. Once you scramble the deck in this way, you never know who will emerge as the victor. Probably not you, if you even survive the carnage. Maybe someone you never heard of. Maybe the most bloodthirsty forces. Whatever remains may be highly damaged, many of your loved ones will be dead, etc. Stupid plan – even if you “win” you lose.

You might think that nothing could be worse than to live as a despised minority in your own country. You are wrong – things can ALWAYS be worse.

Muggles wrote to me:

What rubbish! Does Dave or any other advocates of this idea actually know anyone in China or Russia?

Yes, I do. I married the daughter of Chinese immigrants.

I therefore know lots and lots of Chinese, many immigrants as well as Chinese nationals.

And I know that their contempt for Americans like you is boundless.

Muggles also wrote to me:

Some on Unz see Jews behind everything (including the “US Hegemon”). Others merely the US as a political entity (or both).

If you look back through my posts, you will see that I have argued again and again and again that of course Jews do not control the US. Most people in power are just not Jewish.

Besides which, there are many “righteous Jews,” a number of whom I have known myself, such as, say, Norm Finkelstein or the late Murray Rothbard.

On the other hand, what we might call “official Jews,” such as the ADL are evil monsters who support crimes against humanity in, for example, the Mideast. And Judaism itself is of course a profoundly evil religion that seems to have invented the idea of mass killing for religious purposes — see, for example, Exodus 32: 26-29 (see here). The ancient Israelites invented religious holocausts, which were horrifically turned on their own descendants in the twentieth century.

I do not hold all modern Jews responsible for the great evil of their ancestors.

But I do hold responsible those modern Jews who celebrate the evil of their ancestors and who think that the evil of the Hebrew Bible justifies the crimes they have committed against humanity.

I am happy to condemn Nazis, whether in Berlin or Kiev, and White nationalists, and all of that ilk.

But, by the same token, I am obligated to condemn those Jews who behave in precisely the same way and who revere Holy Scriptures that encourage crimes against humanity.

I cannot be intimidated by nasty little thugs like you who cry “Anti-Semite! Anti-Semite” when I apply the same moral standards to Jews that I apply to Germans and Cambodians and Rwandans.

The Palestinians must be avenged. Jews must be held to account by the same standards as any other human beings.

And right now you are not.

Nicholas Stix wrote to Almost Missouri:

[AM} “neocons have no stop condition other than total defeat of Russia.”

{NS] But why?

We’re dancing around the obvious truth because we do not want to be labeled “anti-Semites.”

Let’s be blunt: for historical and familial reasons, an awful lot of Jews hate, really deeply hate, Eastern Slavs.

My neighbor is a Jewish immigrant whose dad was born in Ukraine and then lived for a while in Russia before emigrating. My neighbor says the Ukrainians were even worse towards the Jews than the Russians were.

Needless to say, the Jewish neighbor does not shed any tears over Russians and Ukrainians killing each other by the tens of thousands.

And a number of the frothing-at-the-mouth warmongers here are indeed Jewish.

Is that the only cause? No. As you say, there certainly is money to be made. And there are non-Jewish influencers from Eastern Europe who also want to drag the US into their own local feuds — we see some of them here.

But an awful lot of Jewish neocons have been among the loudest voices for war.

Again, I know there are “righteous Jews,” such as my late friend Murray Rothbard and Norm Finkelstein, who are completely free of the horrific blood-lust.

But the Old Testament is a very bloody-minded document, and lots of Jews are raised to revere it.

That lots of them are bloody-minded in the real world, especially towards groups they see as familial enemies such as the Russians and Ukrainians, should not be a surprise.

My neighbor (who otherwise is a pretty nice guy) is, alas, not an exception.

Wow, a MSM outlet and a pro-Ukrainian twitter account says the Russians are running out of equipment.

It must be true!

Look, maybe you’re right. I’m fine waiting to find out. Btw, you might want to check out Alex Vershinin. He’s retired American military at Harvard, i.e., most definitely not pro-Russia.

We’ll know by the end of summer who’s right. If the Ukrainians are running out of men and munitions at the rate that I’ve read about, we’ll start to see the cracks by then.

No need to argue. We’ll know soon enough.

It might also do to remember here that the neoconservative credo itself has no stop condition. The nonterminating loop is, as it were, built right into the source code. Neocons are true believers in American exceptionalism, true believers in turbo-capitalism, and they’re devoted to the idea that if only they pursue pure, hedonistic freedom of choice with David French-like ferocity, they are sure to reach Utopia someday, no matter how much collateral damage they have to do along the way. If they ever stopped believing, they would have to turn and face all the destruction they’ve wrought, and that’s just too psychologically difficult.

Neocons are like wealthy urbanites who think that their glittering city is the whole universe; they think that it goes on forever. Even if, in the back of their minds, they know it doesn’t, that fact is of no use to them as long as the city lights still twinkle. It is only within the halo of those lights that their writ extends, so they will do everything to keep them burning, including human sacrifice. And when it all comes crashing down, they will tell themselves that it was still preferable to the “darkness” outside.

They truly are a death cult and must be destroyed. There is no other way of stopping them.

Amazingly, he’s not a plant. That’s just who he is.

No, seriously. Really, he’s not acting.

Yeah, yeah, I know. It seems impossible that someone would be such a ridiculous stereotype and so completely insane when any subject even tangentially touches on Jews. But that’s just Jack.

Actually, Jack is incredibly useful. Most whites don’t understand how crazy a certain portion of Jews are. It doesn’t seem possible. Then, you meet Jack. It takes a bit to fully accept it, but once you realize the truth, you understand the world so much better.

God, I wish that every white goy had to read your posts.

The Chicoms and Norks had no respect for international trademarks!

The US hoops squad looks almost like one of today’s, only shorter:

More comments in mod, thanks

“prospects for a compromise would be much better if the current US administration weren’t both pouring fuel on the fire and actively militating against a negotiated settlement.”

Except for the part about how, at Merkel’s behest, we already tried that approach and it failed spectacularly. So what’s to stop Putin or his mini-Me from coming back in another 5-10 years demanding yet another chunk of Ukraine if the so-called peace advocates get their way and Russia gets to keep Donbass and Crimea? After all, Crimea will never be safe as long as Kherson (its water supplier) is in Ukraine’s hands, so they’ll have to be given that, regardless of the fact that the Russians already blew their shot at holding on to it militarily. In fact, they’ll need Odessa and Nikolaev, too, for similar reasons. Not because they’re greedy land-grabbers, oh no. It’s just because, being the humanitarians they are, they must keep Crimea safe and also because the West just doesn’t understand poor Putin and, hey, let’s not escalate ourselves into anything nuclear, ok? Is that pretty much the gist or am I missing some other pathetic attempt of straw-clutching?

So yeah, we’ll just keep caving every 5-10 years, and in the next round it’ll be some other chunk of Ukraine that changes maps, or else maybe some chunk of Kazakhstan, or Transnistria, and so on, and don’t forget Taiwan. I mean, if we have to cave to every tantrum-throwing whiner with a nuke, why would we ever say no to China? Or India — or even Pakistan, given that they both have nukes? Do you seriously not see the error in that logic chain?

Their fact that the war profiteers refuse to even seek a ceasefire of any kind is revealing.

We have an extended family member in the DC area who has been banging on about war with Russia over Ukraine for well over a decade. He worked for Rumsfeld and a more bloodthirsty little goblin you will never meet. He’s a retired Army colonel but a prime example of the officer class hated most by fighting men. This guy spends his time at his job with a military contractor gaming out nuclear war scenarios in which millions of Russians and Ukrainian meat puppets perish.

Oh, and he was prepping his compound with wells and high tech fencing, etc, starting with Trump’s election. Nobody was better set up for the Plandemic. He is the main reason I am convinced Covid was a failsafe to ensure Trump was not reelected.

A rabid Trump hater, but really he hates Americans who would deign to elect Trump over the chosen neocon war machine candidate, as if they have any say in who runs this country.

None of this stuff is accidental. The outcome doesn’t matter for these people, the plight of the Ukrainian people is irrelevant. They are raking in the cash, and that’s what matters.

And a number of the frothing-at-the-mouth warmongers here are indeed Jewish.

I see that Alain Finkielkraut was right: Every conspiracy ultimately ends up with “Protocols…”.

“There will not no peace deal because Russia is never going to ‘collapse.’”

Of course not. Just like Soviet Union will never collapse. Just like the Russian (not to mention the American) effort in Afghanistan will never collapse. Or the one with Japan. Dot, dot, dot.

Even Stalin’s army might have well have collapsed without all the aid they were getting from the UK and later America. And this time around, that aid is not being directed towards Moscow. So spare me the platitudes about how the Russians are eternally unvanquishable, or how the meatgrinder never ever fails.

Good guys / bad guys is the Hollywood interpretation of war. In reality, it’s two sides with opposing/conflicting interests.

Jack,

What happens when they run out of Ukrainians?

Wow, after a three week absence (last comment feb 23rd), look who shows up the last couple days to push the kovid and You-KKKrane narratives!

Still bitter about Kishniev on a conscious or subconscious level? That’s my theory.

Partition along a river sound fair. I suggest the Volga.

At the end, we’ll se refurbished T-34 in action.

Charles Gordon died in Khartoum. The Boers literally tried running away into the veld, but guess who followed them.

I love Americans and Anglos who talk about Russians messing with their neighbors for centuries as an indicator of something nefarious. They ignore that said meddling was tit for tat with the exception of the small peoples of Siberia who got treated way worse, btw, than the Poles or Baltic Germans. But these same Western commentators never get around to asking how Rudyard Kipling managed to be born in the Eastern Hemisphere.

Tiny Duck:

‘Russia will lose in the end.’

I rest my case.

So spare me the platitudes about how the Russians are eternally unvanquishable

They don’t have to be eternally unvanquishable. They only have to outlast the failing state of Ukraine. That shouldn’t be hard.

No way the Russians are running out of T-72s and other stuff. Those stories are just Western propaganda. All those photos of demolished tanks on Oryx are just fakes. They are bringing T-62 and other ancient crap out of storage and scrounging for ammo from N. Korea and such just because… because they are just sick of winning and enjoy a challenge. Or something.

Even Stalin’s army might have well have collapsed without all the aid they were getting from the UK and later America.

This is a sober truth.

Nikita Khrushchev, having served as a military commissar and intermediary between Stalin and his generals during the war, addressed directly the significance of Lend-lease aid in his memoirs:

I would like to express my candid opinion about Stalin’s views on whether the Red Army and the Soviet Union could have coped with Nazi Germany and survived the war without aid from the United States and Britain. First, I would like to tell about some remarks Stalin made and repeated several times when we were “discussing freely” among ourselves. He stated bluntly that if the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war. If we had had to fight Nazi Germany one on one, we could not have stood up against Germany’s pressure, and we would have lost the war. No one ever discussed this subject officially, and I don’t think Stalin left any written evidence of his opinion, but I will state here that several times in conversations with me he noted that these were the actual circumstances. He never made a special point of holding a conversation on the subject, but when we were engaged in some kind of relaxed conversation, going over international questions of the past and present, and when we would return to the subject of the path we had traveled during the war, that is what he said. When I listened to his remarks, I was fully in agreement with him, and today I am even more so.

“President Putin must make a solemn and binding promise that he will never, without provocation, attack, invade or otherwise threaten Ukrainian territory west of the river.”

Oh, my sides! Yeah, sure — let’s all trust Putin to keep his word. What could possibly go wrong? Just like we all trusted Moscow’s last solemn and binding promise to forever, forever-forever respect Ukraine’s boundaries (I mean, except for the part about sending out little green men and paid agents like “freedom fighter” Strelkov to whip up trouble and hold bogus referenda and so fort).

And while we’re at it, let’s also make all of Russia’s yellow journalists and their. many stateside trolls and useful idiots promise never to cry “provocation” at every available opportunity. Let’s also make them promise to stop intoning, with dead-eyed zombified children-of-the-corn affect, about how they’re going to bring Alaska “back home”.

Sounds like a plan.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1572898/Russian-cadets-sing-ll-bring-Alaska-home-song-Putin.html

Okay, Jack. You’re right.

We’ll see. I’m happy to wait and see how things turn out on the ground.

(Btw, I’m not really that much of a Putin fan, though I do like that he’s sticking his finger into the eye of your neocon cousins, but that doesn’t make me care whether the Russians or Ukrainians win. Neither do you give two farts about the Ukrainians. I’m just calling it like I see it. You, OTHO, are about as dispassionate as a Bills or Eagles fan in the playoffs.)

How do you stop ten iSteve’s blog commenters from raping a white girl?

Throw them a softball question that allows them to expound on how much they deplore non-globalists and non-megalomaniacs.

I urge everyone to keep in mind that my friend Bardon is an enemy alien who does not support the best interests of the United States of America. He is a Serbo-Croation, and I remind everyone of what happened in 1914 when the Serbo-Croatians managed to get the West involved in their own regional feuds in Eastern Europe.

They are trying to do it again.

Don’t get your knickers in a twist, Dave.

He’s a Croat living in Croatia commenting on an internet blog. Hardly a devious enemy alien. Just a bored dummy.

The only country he’s ruining is his own.

You the same Wild Geese Howard I see over at Zman?

Guilty as charged!

Good for your son for getting out of RPI. Science and engineering salaries top out quickly unless you come up with an idea you can patent and build a business around. You can make a little more doing adult daycare as a manager.

It is hard to believe Berklee would be less harsh on a White man than RPI, but those are the times we live in.

“They only have to outlast the failing state of Ukraine. That shouldn’t be hard.”

And yet, here we are, one year later. I mean, according to virtually unanimous consensus, the failing state of Ukraine shouldn’t have lasted more than a week or two. Most of the rest of the world has realized that Ukraine’s ability to resist is a lot harder than it “shoulda been”, but I take it reality isn’t quite your thing, is it?

Hey, where’s Ron Unz chiming in to tell us he hasn’t made much of an effort to learn about this issue, but he nonetheless considers Douglas Macgregor to be “extremely credible” when he tells us — for the umpteenth time — that the gloves are about to come off and Russia will have this all wrapped up in another week or so, and this time, he really, really means it?

Consider the similar trajectories of Victoria Nuland and Chrystia Freeland, both born and and raised in the West, both students of Russian literature and history at Ivy League schools. Both driven and haunted by something that can best be described as ghosts from the past, as if they’re trying to resolve some sort of generational trauma. Something beyond the typical neocon ideology seems to be driving these Ukraine folks.

according to virtually unanimous consensus, the failing state of Ukraine shouldn’t have lasted more than a week or two

Why are Ukraine propagandists so enamored of this talking point — that the CIA and MSM said early on that Ukraine might fold early, so that means it will win now. (And, no, Putin never ‘predicted’ or ‘expected’ to overrun all of Ukraine in a week or two. U.S. propaganda bots constantly saying it doesn’t make it true.) Losing fast or losing slow is still losing.

Slavs are really utter trash. The world doesn’t owe you shit. Go f. yourself.

Sure, Slavs are the problem. Not Westerners, who are wrecking the world, and who have been doing their best to murder Europe (and America, for that matter) for decades now.

The Central European part of the E.U. (i.e. Poland, Czechia, Slovakia,
Hungary, and the Baltic states) have so far very successfully resisted
both the Islamic influx and the globohomo pressure coming from
Brussels.

Every time you ask the pro-Russia shills why Russia is right and Ukraine is wrong, they start complaining about things that have nothing to do with Russia or Ukraine. I’m mad about America(and don’t get me wrong there are a lot of things to be legitimately angry about) so I’m going to shill a foreign regime and not even get paid for it. Madness.

LMAO RUSSIA‘S FIRST CHANNEL HAS NO CHILL – THE WAY SHE‘S SAYING THE LAST SENTENCE HAHAHA pic.twitter.com/XXh4sqJ0Ba

— Levi (@Levi_godman) March 14, 2023

I was a crewman, crew chief, and section leader for the Marine AAVP7A1 RAM R/S, a mechanized amphibious assault vehicle / troop transport.

You know what defeats any tracked vehicle? A well placed $100 spool of concertina wire. It gets tangled in the drive sprockets and becomes wound so tight that is it literally shears through the seals of the final drive hubs, leading to seized gearboxes. Even if the crew stops the tank before that point, now you have crewman outside the disabled tank attempting to cut away the concertina wire.

I’ve noticed proponents from both sides dick measuring when it comes to tank warfare. It’s obsolete. With modern weapons guidance systems, tanks are basically sitting ducks anywhere. They are even more vulnerable in urban areas because they can be attacked from overhead with primitive Molotov cocktails or IEDs. and cannot maneuver.

It’s clear Russia’s strategy has been remarkably effective. They understood from the get go that aircraft and armor are basically expensive cannon fodder and have stuck to patient, accurate and consistent, and inexpensive artillery missions.

Why would anybody here be interested in comments on a Serbian article? Why would even Serbs care? What’s next, youtube comments?

Why are you even so worked up about this, instead of worrying about Croatia being absolutely flooded with immigrants as we speak?

I can understand empathizing with Ukrainians, and I get that you’re basically an HDZ bot, but you seem obsessed.

Sure. Putin planned to still be fighting after a year and to have less territory now than he had a year ago. Everything is proceeding according to plan.

The Central European part of the E.U. (i.e. Poland, Czechia, Slovakia,
Hungary, and the Baltic states) have so far very successfully resisted
both the Islamic influx and the globohomo pressure coming from
Brussels.

But not the impulse to demand that others call them by stupid names like “Czechia”, which is alien to English orthography, dysphonious, and so bad they don’t use it themselves in Česko. At least Belarus– i.e., White Russia– makes us use their own name, like Myanmar or Mumbai.

I am old enough to remember when the “Serbo-Croatian “ identity was being promoted.

Until it wasn’t.

You mean language. The identity being promoted was Yugoslav.

Partition along a river sound fair. I suggest the Volga.

Surely the Amur is a better choice. That way Russia doesn’t have to be surrounded by a dozen countries.

What happens when they run out of Russians? We’ll see who blinks first.

It would be nice if the Russians went home on their own but if they won’t then Ukraine will have to keep fighting for their survival.

The Russians are not powerful enough to Finlandize anyone except Belarus.)

Even that is because Luka needs Russian subsidies to stay in power.

So youre saying that Russia has never collapsed? Agreed.

Sure. Putin planned to still be fighting after a year and to have less territory now than he had a year ago. Everything is proceeding according to plan.

Putin presumably planned to spoil an imminent Ukrainian offensive on the Donbas and to force a quick deal that include independence or autonomy for Donbas, ceding Russian control of Crimea, and probably that Ukraine would never join NATO. His plan almost worked. The war was almost over by early April with a deal in Istanbul along those lines. But we (the U.S. and U.K.) torpedoed the deal.

Take that Putler! We prevented your plan from working! So we win!

But what’s that saying: “Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.” Our stupid prize is that we forced Russia to fight longer and get a bigger victory. It has cost us hundreds of billions, destroyed the nation of Ukraine, and punctured our global image of military invincibility. But that’s a small price to pay for the childish emotional satisfaction of thinking we “owned” Putin.

Russians are shameless liars. They know we have video but they lie anyway.

“Why are Ukraine propagandists so enamored of this talking point — that the CIA and MSM said early on that Ukraine might fold early, so that means it will win now.”

Not just the CIA and MSM. Trolls like yourself assured us that — what’s the phrase they used? Oh yeah, they said “it shouldn’t be hard.” Yeah, right.

Whereas, unlike Douglas Macgregor and his fans, Ron Unz and otherwise, I myself have never claimed to possess crystal ball telling me what will happen in Ukraine. In particular, I’ve never said that it will win now, and have every confidence that without the West’s backing Ukraine might well have fallen already, just like Stalin’s army would have been trounced some four score years ago as Bardon Kaldian noted upthread.

In other words, your own spectacularly failed predictions are not going to be improved by comparing them against some bogus straw-man prediction you wish I would have made so as to make you seem less of a fool.

Moreover, Putin certainly did publicly predict a year ago (almost to the day), so as to assure Russian mothers, that conscripts “are not and will not “ be needed to carry out his “special” little military operation (and boy, has it been special). How did that pan out?

In other words, stop trying to lie to my face, you pathetic troll. Putin and his goons did indeed expect this to be a walk in the park. I mean, get a clue:

Russian invasion plans, obtained by The New York Times, show that the military expected to sprint hundreds of miles across Ukraine and triumph within days. Officers were told to pack their dress uniforms and medals in anticipation of military parades in the Ukrainian capital, Kyiv…

During a meeting in March with Prime Minister Naftali Bennett of Israel, Mr. Putin admitted that the Ukrainians were tougher “than I was told,” according to two people familiar with the exchange. “This will probably be much more difficult than we thought….”

Service members told him that “victory in such a situation is impossible,” he said, but their superiors told them not to worry. A war would be a “walk in the park,” they were told.

Jack D, armchair patriot. When Ukraine is down to 60-year-olds and 16-year-olds, please volunteer your services. You can take Sailer’s kid with you too. Since Sailer thinks throwing your life away for GAE is dulce et decorum, he should be happy to see both of you go.

It would be nice if the Russians went home on their own but if they won’t then Ukraine will have to keep fighting for their survival

It would be nice if feds like yourself weren’t warmongerers trying to re-take over Ukraine to install your missles and loot the country but if you won’t we Americans will have to keep fighting for our survival.

Dude — Get out of here with that made up, retarded NYT propaganda. The NYT says the Russian Army got its invasion orders at the last second and was therefore unprepared to launch. That doesn’t mean Putin thought he’d win in days. It only means that he didn’t have much time to plan ahead and make advance preparations.

But the clown-show at NYT think they know his super-duper secret thoughts, anyway. They are nothing but low-IQ deep state shills misinforming the gullible class.

More importantly, even if Putin was over-optimistic, so what? I still don’t get why you deep state cheerleaders think his private psychological expectations on Feb. 24, 2022 somehow provide support for your plan to fight a losing war to the last Ukrainian.

When Jack D started posting here, he told us he was part of some organized neocon group that was trying to influence conservatives to get back on the zio-plantation. He even posted a link to their site. It’s was some crappy blog. He’s not a paid agent, he’s just a retired neocon with too much time to be annoying online.

BTW, what happened to “Whiskey,” the original neocon here? I was the one who identified him as a single poster by calling the author of his comments “the long winded neocon.” That was when most commenters didn’t bother to use names, when this blog had it’s own site. After others started calling him that, he choose the name “Whiskey” as part of his transparently fake “Scotch-Irish” persona. For a while, “Scotch-Irish” was being used here as a humorous euphemism for jews.

Ha. Jack (and the neocons) cares as much about the Ukrainians as a guy who runs cock fights cares about the roosters.

What cracks me up is how this whole discussion is trapped in the the 20th century mindset.

You’ll notice that it’s a bunch of whites and Jews bickering. (Guiltily as charged, btw.) Where are the Asians or Indians, even the “American” versions?

They’re not here because they don’t care.

That’s the future, Jack. A bunch of peoples who don’t care about you or your grandparents who lived in Ukraine or, gasp, the Holocaust story.

Enjoy debating the dumb white goys. At least, they engage with you. The groups coming up don’t care enough to even talk to you.

“It has cost us hundreds of billions, destroyed the nation of Ukraine, and punctured our global image of military invincibility.”

Say what? Yeah, I’m sure that agreeing to support Ukraine once Russia initiated its land-grab — as we had earlier promised — was what punctured that “military invincibility” you speak of. Yeah, sure.

I mean, OK, there was that little “setback” we had in Vietnam, and then those “bad optics” displayed in Black Hawk Down, and then there was that more recent show of military “vincibility” we put on in Afghanistan, but what really made us seem weak in comparison to those minor pin-pricks was allowing a country one quarter Russia’s size to stand up to its bullying, just as we had promised. You keep telling yourself that. It explains a lot about the rest of your posting.

“The NYT says the Russian Army got its invasion orders at the last second and was therefore unprepared to launch.”

Do try and stay on point. Getting orders at the last second still doesn’t explain why the military nonetheless expected to sprint “hundreds of miles across Ukraine and triumph within days.” It still doesn’t explain why Putin himself admitted that the Ukrainians were “tougher than I was told.” Getting your orders at the last second probably should have prompted some Russian commanders to be more cautious about their prospects of an easy victory. But their hapless soldiers were still assured this would be a “walk in the park”. The NYT made all that up, you say? Even if that were true, it still wouldn’t explain why, several weeks later, Putin was still loudly and very publicly assuring Russian mothers that no military conscripts would be needed in his botched military boondoggle. Did the NY Times make that up, too? Because I don’t recall any of the trolls complaining about deep fake Youtube videos at the time.

Next time, read and address the points being made instead of trying to deflect with another rousing cheer of “we hate the New York Times.” It won’t work with anyone who’s paying attention.

“I still don’t get why you deep state cheerleaders think his private psychological expectations on Feb. 24, 2022 somehow provide support for your plan to fight a losing war to the last Ukrainian.”

It doesn’t have to prove that Ukraine will win. It just proves that the Putin trolls are feckless idiots. As I already told you, I’m certainly not predicting Ukraine will win. Try and remedy your “L”, before addressing theirs.

My Serbo-Croatian buddy Bardon Kaldian wrote to me:

[Dave] And a number of the frothing-at-the-mouth warmongers here are indeed Jewish.

[BK] I see that Alain Finkielkraut was right: Every conspiracy ultimately ends up with “Protocols…”.

I sincerely want to thank you for proving my point.

Anyone can say whatever they want about White Gentiles or even Blacks, but even the slightest criticism of (some) Jews and there are immediate cries of: Anti-Semistism! Anti-Smistism!

I did not say that all of the insane war-mongers here are Jews: I also specifically alluded to those crooks who are in it for the money as well as to East-European crazies like you who want to drag the rest of the world into your crazy little feuds. Here is exactly what I said:

Is that the only cause? No. As you say, there certainly is money to be made. And there are non-Jewish influencers from Eastern Europe who also want to drag the US into their own local feuds — we see some of them here.

There are various different groups who are pushing for Armageddon in Ukraine: East European crazes like you, the military-industrial complex that makes money off of it, and, yes, some Jews (I made clear not all Jews) who bear familial grudges against both Russians and Ukrainians — I gave my neighbor as a very specific example of this.

You know as well as I do that this is true.

But all you can do is scream:

Every conspiracy ultimately ends up with “Protocols…”

You are a thug, BK.

And you prove my point.

You are an enemy alien: you are not an American, but you are trying to draw my country into your centuries-long regional feuds that in no way concern any loyal Americans.

We are no longer intimidated by nasty little thugs like you and your attempt to make Americans feel guilty for putting America first, just as you put your own little shithole country first.

And we are no longer intimidated by your little baby cries of Anti-Semitism when we try to have grown-up talks about who is pushing for World War.

The only proper response that any loyal American can have to enemies of the United States like you is: “Go f**^ yourselves!”

All loyal Americans sincerely hope that people like you end up dead.

We don’t need you, we don’t want you, and we hope you die.

So, the Russians knocked one of our drones out of the sky over the Black Sea. Well, the next time the Russians fly a drone over the Gulf of Mexico, we should retaliate by knocking that drone out of the sky.

o/t

#BlueTyranny

BREAKING: Antifa smashing doors and windows at UC Davis entrance where Charlie Kirk is speaking pic.twitter.com/22bEsMC4XP

— No Bailouts Poso 🚫💰 (@JackPosobiec) March 15, 2023

The US won the war when we blew up Nordstream. So let’s bug out.

Neatly argued, if the Nordstream decision is seen as a countermove.

My little buddy HAsbara wrote to Hypnotoad666:

Say what? Yeah, I’m sure that agreeing to support Ukraine once Russia initiated its land-grab — as we had earlier promised — was what punctured that “military invincibility” you speak of. Yeah, sure.

I mean, OK, there was that little “setback” we had in Vietnam, and then those “bad optics” displayed in Black Hawk Down, and then there was that more recent show of military “vincibility” we put on in Afghanistan, but what really made us seem weak in comparison to those minor pin-pricks was allowing a country one quarter Russia’s size to stand up to its bullying, just as we had promised.

What is this “we,” kemosabe???

You are an enemy alien, not part of “we.”

You are an enemy of the United States of America who is trying to draw my country into your centuries-long family feuds in Eastern Europe.

And “we” Americans never agreed to defend Ukraine.

Yeah, yeah, the “Budapest Memos.” Several separate agreements, none of which committed any of the signatories to come to Ukraine’s aid in the event that the Pesty Memos were broken by one party or another (yes, I know: there was the promise to go to the UN Security Council — meaningless, since Russia holds a veto there).

Indeed, a good case can be made that the US abrogated the Pesty Memo by orchestrating the overthrow of the legitimate government of Ukraine and that Russia is acting in accord with the Pesty Memo by defending Ukrainians in the Donbass against the murderous actions of the US proxies in Kiev.

The US attacked Ukraine using neo-Nazi proxies in Kiev: Russia is defending Ukraine.

In any case, under the US Constitution (yes, I know, as an enemy alien you don’t know about that!), the Pesty Memo is not binding in any way at all on the US, since it was not ratified by the US Senate.

Just an empty piece of paper.

Now, getting back to you, HAsbara: since you are an enemy alien, you have no standing to say what America should do.

I understand that you think that American intervention in Ukraine will serve the interests of the nasty little shithole country to which you are loyal.

Probably will.

But it does not serve the interests of the United States of America.

Loyal Americans just do not care about you and your little shithole country, HAsbara.

Just between you and me: we all sort of hope you all just drop dead.

It fits with Czechoslovakia and Slovakia. And Slovenia and Croatia and Serbia and Bulgaria. And non-Slavic countries Syria, Georgia, Albania and Armenia, three of which have completely different endonyms. L So you’re definitely lying when you say it’s alien to our orthology. The dysphonia thing is subjective but I don’t find it “dysphonious” [speaking of alien] at all.

I also don’t understand why we can’t just call them Czesko but you seem oddly upset about the name Czechia.

Jack D wrote to Cagey Beast:

Russians are shameless liars. They know we have video but they lie anyway.

As opposed to the US Deep State that always — always! — tells the truth!

I mean, when it comes to the Nordstream pipeline, who ya gonna believe: the decorated investigative journalist Sy Hersh who has an inside source who laid out in detail what happened… or those models of truthfulness who sold us the Russian Collusion Hoax, the Hunter laptop lies, etc.?

Of course, the US Deep State would never, ever lie!

All we want Jack is: America First!

You’ve got some familial gripe with the Eastern Slavs, Jack? You think it is some sort of vengeance for how they treated your great-great granddad a century ago to encourage them to kill each other now?

Your problem, Jack, not ours.

We want to stop pouring billions into that shithole country, we want to stop risking nuclear war, we want to stop driving the rest of the world into the arms of the Communist Party of China.

And, oh yeah, we kinds think it would be nice if the killing in Ukraine stopped and if there were a negotiated peace that accepted the right of self-determination of peoples as enshrined in Article 1 of the UN Charter as applied to the peoples of the Donbass.

America First, Jack.

An idea you can never grasp because you do not put America first.

“You are an enemy of the United States of America who is trying to draw my country into your centuries-long family feuds in Eastern Europe.”

So says the guy who has openly admitted on this site that he has seriously discussed with his ethnic Chinese wife his desire to move to the land of her forbears, but deciding, no, it would be too much fuss learning Mandarin better, not to mention the picayune yet somehow insurmountable minutia of learning how to enroll his daughters in a Beijing college. THAT is what stopped you from hightailing it to Beijing. Some loyal American you are, whatever you want to pretend I am.

In fact, I’m guessing what’s really ticking you off about Ukraine’s stubborn refusal to surrender is it means China will have an even tougher time grabbing Taiwan, and it’s pretty clear, in light of that admission, where your true loyalties lie.

Again, stop projecting your own insecurities, self-loathing, and backstabbing treachery onto others PhysicistDave. It’s too obvious.

“And ‘we’ Americans never agreed to defend Ukraine.”

I didn’t say “defend”, PhysicistDave. Stop putting words in my mouth. I said “support”. Given that we midwifed the agreement whereby Ukraine relinquished its nukes in exchange for Moscow’s iron-clad guarantees, it is the least we could do at this point, but plenty of other countries — I mean, countries where most people actually want to live if they could up and flee the way you long to do — have chosen to do the same even though they played no part in that agreement. Good for them.

Here’s the background information about the MQ-9 Reaper drone activity–clearly acts of war–that have been carried out by the U.S. to enable follow-on kamikaze drone attacks on Crimea.

Jacob Dreizin (U.S. Army veteran and native Russian speaker) published this back on March 5, 2023.

https://thedreizinreport.com/2023/03/05/dreizin-on-belief-and-unbelief/

As Jacob pointed out:

Nonetheless…..
…..these (MQ-9 Reaper drone activity around Crimea) are routine U.S. ACTS OF WAR…..
…..against Russia.

which political leader has overseen more improvement in the country that he or she has led over the past 25 years than President Putin has improved Russia?

Any of them. Putin has been a complete disaster. He is destroying Russia in slow motion. Russian demographic decline has continued unabated since he took office. There has been no meaningful investment in education or healthcare since he took office, just money wasted on ski areas in Sochi, and making Moscow nice and shiny. The economy is overfocused on natural resource extraction, making Russia completely dependent on foreigners, as if Russia were Nigeria. Putin is widely detested in the Russian provinces and by Russian nationalists.

Good for your sons, they avoided living in a cultural toxic waste dump.

Jack D said here on a number of occasions he was descended from
Polish Jews, not Ukrainian Jews

And of course, back in the Korea War days we still had John Wayne, Errol Flynn, William Holden and Jeff Chandler to win the day/peace/truce. Not least Mr Chandler, whose alleged but prescient cross-dressing habit must have frightened the gooks to submission.

My crazy little buddy HAsbara wrote to me:

[Dave]And ‘we’ Americans never agreed to defend Ukraine.”

[HAsbara] I didn’t say “defend”, PhysicistDave. Stop putting words in my mouth. I said “support”.

Defend, support, “we” never agreed to any of that.

The Budapest Memos do not even say that “we” did.

In any case, little buddy, you are still having trouble grasping — no doubt because you are an enemy alien — that the guys who agreed to the Pesty Memos had no power whatsoever to bind my country.

The Clinton crime family may have agreed to what you say they agreed to (though, in fact, they didn’t), but, even had they done so, it is not binding on the US unless it is ratified by the US Senate.

And it never was.

It’s just a silly, empty, meaningless piece of paper. Like a used gum wrapper.

Wee little HAsbara also wrote:

Given that we midwifed the agreement whereby Ukraine relinquished its nukes in exchange for Moscow’s iron-clad guarantees, it is the least we could do…

You and your buddies can help them as you wish. You are not “we.”

You are an enemy of the United States.

Keep that in mind.

The least that America could have done is not orchestrated the overthrow of the democratically elected government of Ukraine in 2014, not financed, armed, and encouraged the illegal puppet regime in its mass murder of the people of the Donbass, and not denied the people of the Donbass the right of self-determination of peoples as enshrined in Article 1 of the UN Charter.

But I will grant one thing that we owe the dictatorship in Kiev: lots of rope and lots of lampposts.

The better to hang all the neo-Nazis in Kiev by the neck until dead.

Oh, and we really ought to extradite the American neocons — Nuland, Obama, Biden, et al. — who created this tragedy to Kiev so that they can meet the same fate that they so richly deserve.

Ukraine will be liberated from the neo-Nazi regime that for some reason you love so much.

The Eastern Allies will triumph, especially now that China, Iran, Saudi Arabia, etc. are on board.

But a huge number of Ukrainians will, sadly, end up dead because of evil monsters like you who insist on encouraging the puppet regime in Kiev to fight to the last Ukrainian.

Re: Corruption in Russia and Ukraine

I mentioned the stratospheric levels of corruption in Russia, esp. in
the Russian military. Let me give a typical example. Let’s say the Kremlin
orders thousands of high-quality tires for their transport vehicles. High
level procurers in Moscow, instead of buying expensive tires in Europe,
will buy cheap substitutes in China, and pocket the difference. Do this
with other military parts, and see how quickly it’s possible to get rich
on military procurements. The corrupt but rich Russians then use their
wealth to buy super-yachts and villas in the south of France. They also
send their wives, girlfriends, and daughters on wildly expensive shopping
trips to Dubai, particularly because Europe has become sick of the rich
Russians flaunting their ill-gotten gains in front of everyone. The New York
Times had a story 2-3 days ago about how the Russians are taking
over Dubai.

That’s one reason why nothing in Russia seems to work, particularly
in the provinces. Everything looks dilapidated. Everything needs
a fresh coat of paint.

I’m sure similar types of corruption are a daily occurrence in Ukraine
as well but the information about it is strangely missing in the mainstream
media.

Barton Kaldian and other commenters on this website are best described as NATO Trolls. NATO is the mechanism they are trying to use to drag other countries, not just America, into conflicts where these countries have no vital interests, such as the Ukraine. There would be no problem now if NATO had been dissolved in the 1990s and a treaty concluded formally ending the Cold War with Russia.

Even if there had been a conflict between Russia and Ukraine, sure, assorted Poles and other East European Russophobes might be hyperventilating, but the rest of us would be getting on with our lives without contemplating a wider war, or, God forbid, a nuclear war.

The other side of the coin is the EU, which is equally culpable with the Americans and NATO in this regard. The Maidan Coup was a direct result of Yanukovych rebuffing the EU in favour of Russia.

Throughout 2012 and most of 2013, Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych had been in negotiations with the European Union on the terms of a political/trade agreement involving a sizeable loan, lowering of tariffs, and a goal to “promote gradual convergence on foreign and security matters with the aim of Ukraine’s ever-deeper involvement in the European security area” (direct quote from the agreement). Putin has stated, numerous times over several decades, his concerns about Western military forces creeping closer to Russia’s border. The Ukranians asked for $160 billion to offset trade restrictions that Russia would likely implement as a result of the deal. The EU could only offer $828 million. Russia then offered Ukraine a $15 billion loan and to cut Russian natural gas prices by almost a third. Yanukovych canceled negotiations with the EU and accepted Putin’s offer. Considering the Russian loan was nearly 20 times greater than the EU loan and the agreement eliminated the possibility of Russian sanctions while leaving EU relations largely unchanged, this was a rational decision by Yanukovych. To quote Reuters, “the unwillingness of the EU and International Monetary Fund to be flexible in their demands of Ukraine also had an effect, making them less attractive partners.”

https://www.unz.com/article/the-us-is-culpable-in-todays-ukraine-crisis/

Berklee being a music school, hadn’t, at the time at least, found a way to slip woman’s / negro studies into the curriculum.
However his graduation turned into a negro worship fest. They paid homage to Prince, who had recently died. Which is perfectly reasonable, he was a talented musician. Then they had two more black speakers babbling on about black this and that, that had nothing to do with music. He lost his shit and walked out before it was over, with me not far behind! A chip off the old block!

Good for your sons, they avoided living in a cultural toxic waste dump.

Thanks! I’m out of buttons.

Jack D said here on a number of occasions he was descended from
Polish Jews, not Ukrainian Jews

There’s a Polish joke in here somewhere, but for the sake of civility, I’m going to leave it alone. Jumpin Jack D is already taking quite a beating here today!

Stop this neo-Nazi nonsense, PD. Ukraine is very much a Zionist project. 3 of the top 5 oligarchs are Jewish. The Azov Regiment ( actually only 1,000 men or so ) is widely regarded as the private army of the most powerful Jewish oligarch, Kholomoisky. Haaretz regarded him as the most powerful Jew in the world. Kholomoisky bankrolled another Zionist Jew, Zelensky, to become President. At one point both the Ukrainian President and PM were Jews – the only other state apart from Israel . Zelensky has made it plain that he wants Ukraine to become a “big Israel”. No guesses needed as to who will play the part of the Palestinians.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/4/5/zelenskyy-says-wants-ukraine-to-become-a-big-israel

Yet there are, at most, 200,000 Ukrainian Jews ( <0.5 % of Ukraine's population ), maybe only 50,000. Their prominence is completely out of all proportion to their numbers. Little wonder that American Zionist Necons and Neolibs ( Nuland, Sullivan, uncle Tony Blinken and all ) are so devoted to the cause of the Zionist Republic of Ukraine. It is very good for the Jews.

So where does all the neo-Nazi palaver come from. Logically, any “neo-Nazi” would not want to serve in any Zionist Jew’s army, private or otherwise. You must understand the mentality of the Galicians of Western and Central Ukraine. These people have been extremely hostile to Russia and the Russian Government for centuries, made worse by the Holodomor, in which Jewish NKVD operatives were heavily involved. They supported the Germans in both World Wars as a result.

The famous photo of the Azov Regiment has a tank as a backdrop with Swastika, EU and NATO flags, all in a row. To our eyes that may appear incongruous, but to Galicians it is perfectly logical: these are the flags of some of the entities that have supported the Ukrainian cause, as they see it, over the years. Give them money, weapons and supplies and they will go off and fight Russians.

This makes them extremely manipulable. They have become mere tools of NATO, EU, America, the Zionists et al. Their extreme hostility towards Russia seems to exclude any notions of pragmatism. This will not end well. Polish mobilisation is scheduled to be complete by May. The aim may well be to occupy western Ukraine, which the Russians seem to be winking at even now. Ukrainians have a reputation for obstinate stupidity. Losing their state will confirm this.

Lads, I think we should all calm down here. Very few of us* are paid agents either of Russia (where’s my gold and vodka?), Israel (perhaps some enthusiastic unpaid volunteers) or Langley – we’ve mostly been around since before all this kicked off.

It’s just that the MSM are in such lockstep (and that may well be – almost certainly is – affected by intelligence agencies – the UK Guardian’s pro-globalist u-turn since MI5 went through all their computers post-Snowden, the feeding of ‘inside information’ to selected journos) that anyone reliant on them for information is going to get nothing but Gallant Little Ukraine and the 21st century equivalent of Cossacks spitting babies on bayonets.

* I could make an exception for one gung-ho chap who’s too much of an “America? F*** yeah!” good old boy to be true, but why attribute malice when there’s another equally likely possibility?

Anonymous[355] wrote to me:

Don’t get your knickers in a twist, Dave.

He’s a Croat living in Croatia commenting on an internet blog. Hardly a devious enemy alien. Just a bored dummy.

The only country he’s ruining is his own.

Unfortunately, no. Bardon is one of a mob of people who, in the aggregate, are seriously risking World War III.

Yeah, by himself he is just one crazy little trailer-park-trash Serb (AKA a Croat).

And, yeah, id most Americans would just dismiss guys like him from shithole countries, they really would not matter.

But it is like if you are getting stung by the entire beehive: one bee alone may not kill you. But if they all sting you… well, you are in a lot of trouble. You can’t just ignore the bees because each individual bee, in and of itself, is insignificant.

And so we also cannot just ignore the Bardon thugs, as worthless as they are as individuals, because collectively they may actually destroy the world.

If we let all the Bardons of the world run wild, and if we do not speak up against our fellow citizens who fall for their pathetic bullshit, we and everyone we care about are very likely to end up dead.

The Internet, unfortunately, now dominates the real world (look at the run on SVB bank).

Questions of morality do not weigh in the balance at all, only the likelihood of success vs failure.

To feel compelled to fight is not necessarily to think that one will win.

He views everything and everyone else as objects to be manipulated in order to further the interests of #1

He cares about his children.

Your ego and hubris is why normies have contempt for you. The future is Generation Z. Thankfully you are the outlier.

“What kind of country is russia that it has warlord armies? What normal country allows these to exist?”

What kind of country is the u.s., that it has warlord armies? What normal country allows these to exist?

This is, unfortunately, increasingly the world we live in, Jack, one of nominal nation-states, which are dominated by warlord armies, which thrive as parasites, sucking the economic, cultural, and political blood out of productive groups within their borders. In the u.s., feminazis, black supremacists, reconquistas, indian supremacists, homosexualists, sexual psychopaths, etc., suck the life out of normal White men, without opposition.

“Defense consultant.”
Are we not currently supplying munitions to Ukraine? Possibly a Hunter Biden ish parallel? “Financial glad handing.”

That’s what most posts are about, commenting on the issues tangentially.

And Croatia is not flooded with “immigrants”, it is misinfo. It is true that there are currently ca. 10,000 to 20,000 non- European foreign workers in tourism and construction, but they are not going to stay, and even they are carefully checked- the policy is to let only non-Muslims, hence there are Nepalese and Filipinos.

The situation is described in this article: https://www.politika.rs/sr/clanak/540486/%D0%90%D0%B7%D0%B8%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8-%D1%83-%D0%A1%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B8-%D0%94%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%98%D0%B0-%D1%83-%D0%A5%D1%80%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D1%83-%D1%98%D0%B5-%D0%B7%D0%B0-%D0%BD%D0%B0%D1%81-%D1%81%D0%BC%D1%80%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B0-%D0%BA%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%BD%D0%B0

Asylum seekers in Slovenia: Deportation to Croatia is a death sentence for us

“Most of us traveled through Croatia, and then applied for asylum in Slovenia. Do you know why we didn’t stay in Croatia? In recent years, the media and human rights organizations, the courts, and even the European Commission have clearly shown this. Croatian police systematically abuse refugees , steals, tortures and mistreats them, and after all returns them to Bosnia without allowing them to request asylum”, they stated in the announcement.

No, thats exactly wrong, the Russians are no more different from each other than Koreans. Even counting the Gaitziens.

No matter what Poles might want.

Corruption can work both ways. And it does work both ways.

The West is pillaging Russia (and the Ukraine which is part of it). So corruption might mean money stolen from the western neocolonial masters.

What about the Bosporus? Doesn’t Putin need that too?

If it weren’t already full of Turks, I’m sure Putin (and most Russians) would be glad to have it, just as reasonably as the US was glad to have the Panama Canal or New Orleans and ocean access for the Mississippi basin, or as Britain was glad to have the Suez canal, or as the US President Monroe declared exclusive dominance over the entire Western Hemisphere.

Imperial Russia fought several wars with the Turks/Ottomans (who were sometimes backed by Britain to spite Russia … historical pattern here?) in the past, but the modern Russian Republic has mostly been pretty friendly with Turkey (or Türkiye as they want to be called now).

Doesn’t Putin need a neutral Ukraine as a buffer state between it and NATO?

He did request it. As the US requested Cuba not be weaponized. The US got its way by violence and threat of violence. Or as Britain demanded a neutral Belgium around the port of Antwerp, and got it by violence.

Anyhow, by not agreeing to a neutral Ukraine, US/NATO is in effect demanding a weaponization of Ukraine. Is that somehow more moral?

Does Putin need Russian troops to be stationed everywhere east of the Elbe in order to protect Russia from invasion? Stalin did.

It gives me no pleasure to say that NATO is making Stalin’s paranoia seem reasoned and prudent.

But unlike Stalin, unlike the US, and unlike Britain, Putin has made no demand about any territory not inhabited by his co-nationals, and in most cases he hasn’t even bothered with that. There are large Russian populations in the Central Asian -stans, in the Baltics, in the Caucasus, in Belarus, etc. which everyone is pretty relaxed about. The Donbas was the exception because their neighbors were literally killing them for being Russian. So the Donbas Russians expressed, and Putin (and most Russians) concurred that it would be good if the Donbas could be independent from their murdering neighbors. It seems eminently reasonable. Kiev obviously hated them enough to kill them, so why not separate, as a certain commenter here likes to say?* After all, the West forced the same result on Indonesia after the Indonesians got a little too murdery of the East Timorese. So now East Timor is a separate country. Problem solved. For reasons that escape me, this same cheap, easy, and just solution was vehemently prevented in the Donbas. So now there’s a war.

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*Except in this one particular case, for reasons that escape me.

The abysmal levels of corruption in both Russia and Ukraine are
probably the main reason why the Eastern Slavs seem incapable of producing
wealth. After all, corruption implies that anyone who can will steal, directly
or indirectly, and will lie about it.

Thus Russia’s GDP (PPP) per capita is only 31,967 – which means that despite
vast mineral wealth, relative to Central and Western Europe, Russia still remains
a poor country, and due to the war Russia is losing years if not decades of
economic progress that would have happened otherwise. Ukraine was African-level
poor even before the war ($14,331 per capita in 2021), and currently its GDP per
capita is most likely less than $10,000. Almost like Ukraine is experiencing
a second Holodomor 90 years later.

By contrast, Poland is Europe’s great success story. Its GDP per capita is $44,249.
It’s rising so fast that the British media are now saying that by 2030 the average
Polish family will be richer than the average British family.

Back in 1991 Russia, Ukraine, and Poland started out on about the same GDP
level per capita but Poland has shown it knows how to create wealth whereas
Russia and Ukraine don’t.

Ah, Forbes. They have their fingers on the pulse, right?

Extremism in defense of Yiddishness is no vice!

I have the same attitude toward Russia/Ukraine that’s growing in popularity in this country: can they both lose? You, on the other hand, have become totally deranged by this splendid little war.

I also don’t understand why we can’t just call them Czesko but you seem oddly upset about the name Czechia.

It’s ugly. Names are important, and I’m an onomast. They already have three beautiful names, Bohemia, Moravia, and Silesia, and they use– no, they want us to use– this abortion, carrying over the clumsy Polish digraph.

In addition, they are telling us how to speak our language.the only excuse for that is if our word for them is insulting. It isn’t. Even then, the Slavic term for Germans is insulting, and the Germans can live with that.

their neighbors were literally killing them for being Russian

Can you tell me more about the Donbas Pogroms?

And yet the Ukrainian people rose up and rejected the corrupt Yanukovych, who fled from his magnificent marble palace (amazing what you can build on a civil service salary!) directly to his Russian sponsors. Freedom and dignity are worth more than money and cheap Russian gas. Anyway, the Ukrainians knew that the Russian money was not for them but for Yanukovych and his inner circle – they would never see a ruble of it.

In free, independent and democratic Ukraine, Orthodox monks are ordered to leave their monastery. The faithful aren’t happy(and doubtless aren’t happy about a few other things).

https://www.rt.com/russia/573016-pope-francis-ukraine-lavra-crackdown/

Pope Francis has voiced concern over the situation in the Kiev Pechersk Lavra following attempts by the Ukrainian authorities to expel monks from the country’s iconic Orthodox Christian site.

Speaking at the end of a general audience on Wednesday, the pontiff said he was “thinking about the Orthodox monks in the Kiev Lavra.”

“I ask warring parties to respect religious places,” he added, asserting that the clergy of any denomination “are the support of the people of God.”

On March 10, Ukraine’s Ministry of Culture claimed, without providing any evidence, that the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Moscow Patriarchate had violated a 2013 agreement, under which the state allowed them to administer the religious site. Clerics were subsequently ordered to vacate the monastery by March 29.

While the clergy have refused to comply, Ukrainian President Vladimir Zelensky endorsed the decision, framing the crackdown as “a move to strengthen our spiritual independence.” This, however, prompted outrage from Moscow, with Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova claiming that “the freedom of religion is being held hostage by the bandits” from the Ukrainian government.

For years, Ukraine has experienced religious tensions, predominantly between Kiev-backed non-canonical Orthodox Church of Ukraine (OCU) and the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (UOC), which proclaimed independence from Moscow after Russia launched its military operation in the neighboring country in February 2022.

This, however, did not spare it from accusations that it covertly supports Russia, and raids have been carried out on numerous Orthodox monasteries across Ukraine, including the Lavra itself.

‘…Once you understand that they WANT America (as it currently exists) to be destroyed and defeated and discredited, it all makes sense why people who you would otherwise normally expect to be patriotic are rooting for America’s enemies.’

I’m glad to see you’re achieving some level of self-awareness — but why are you describing your people as ‘they’?

‘…I have the same attitude toward Russia/Ukraine that’s growing in popularity in this country: can they both lose? You, on the other hand, have become totally deranged by this splendid little war.’

I’d like it if JackD would explain why Jews are so prominent among the enthusiastic proponents of this war.

I have my own theories — but let’s hear his.

You, on the other hand, have become totally deranged by this splendid little war.

Jack has completely be-clowned himself over this war. He went from being a sort of exceedingly verbose but basically harmless Wikipedia cut-and-paste expert on everything under the sun to a guy getting Corvinus level reviews (well except for his pet Johann Ricke clicking “agree” on most of his comments).

Jack has 22 comments (so far) just on this one string.

Agree: Jack D

Troll: Johann Ricke

“the guys who agreed to the Pesty Memos had no power whatsoever to bind my country.”

Your country, you say? Because as I have clearly shown to anyone who cares to look at the evidence, Kemosabe, the focal point of YOUR fealties is in no way the US, however much of a heap-big-America-Firster you now want to pretend you are. I mean, give me a break. The paper trail is right there, with link provided.

Moreover, both the US and China signed on as midwives to the Budapest Memorandum. The Chinese Communist government just chose to weasel and backstab out of it the way Communist Orwellian dictatorships usually do, and no doubt they’re especially angry that this might somehow impede their plans to invade Taiwan. Is that why you’re so agitated, PhysicistDave? Oh, the ignominy of having the country you truly love and the Communists who run it suffer setbacks because of their increasingly unhinged little comrade to the north. I mean, they already have a handful with their crazy cousin North Korea, and now Moscow has decided to go off the deep end too. What’s a power-hungry totalitarian Beijing dictatorship supposed to do?

Whatever. You go and work out your deep frustrations and tangled loyalties on your own time, PhysicistDave. But do spare me any further pretensions to the effect that in your heart and mind America is still the object of your loyalty.

Where’s that Matt Damon speech that gets a link every time there’s a post on immigrants here? The one where he pronounces on how the “rest of you are just visting” or passing through? I’m going to go out on a limb and say that the passing-through contingent includes backstabbers like you, frustrated and angry as you are that your longing to move to Beijing has been thwarted by stumbling blocks as picayune as a language barrier and college enrollment issues. That didn’t stop your wife’s parents, did it? But you just can’t hack it. And so you sit here and rage.

So yeah, it’s. no wonder you’re so peeved. Yes, of course you want to pretend the Budapest Memorandum doesn’t matter and that time when Ukraine agreed to peacefully turn over its nukes is just a historical footnote. So pesky. But good luck making that work outside your echo chamber. And next time, don’t let the mask slip and you might. have a better chance of hiding where your true loyalties lie.

So, you cherry picked my post to make your reply all about you.

You failed to address any of the substance of my post. Okay.

You are married to a Chinese immigrant’s child yet say that the Chinese hold America in contempt. So why are they here? If China is superior, why are you here, and the wife?

I did not say, nor do I believe, that you are one of those on Unz who believe that “Jews control everything here”. That was an example of simplistic thinking I gave. To address your apparent belief that the “American Hegemon” is the only meaningful State actor on the globe.

When you believe in a “unicause” whether it is Jews or the American State, you vastly oversimplify reality. This makes arguments and rhetoric easier but as I argue, the world isn’t so simple.

The rest of your reply about the Jews is beside the points I made.

I don’t support many of the policies of the Israeli government but that is beside the point regarding Russia and Ukraine and the American involvement. Almost no other nation supports the feeble Russian excuse for the invasion. But to claim it is “all America’s fault” is to attribute everything to one cause, one factor. The “encirclement by NATO” argument by Putin is grasping at straws.

I find it odd that people who argue as you do repeatedly ignore uncontested facts. If America is so despised and disrespected, why do Chinese, Russians and nearly everyone else flock here as legal or illegal immigrants to remain and become Americans?

No one is flooding into China or Russia are they? This is revealed preference at work.

Are any of your Chinese relatives here trying to return home? Is anyone rushing to immigrate to the few nations which support Russia in this conflict? Are they building walls at their borders to keep immigrants out?

The American State has many flaws and does many things wrong. But to ignore the existence of the dozens of other questionable nation states and their behavior, and paint America as the devil and the rest as innocent, helpless victims, borders on lunacy.

“NATO is the mechanism they are trying to use to drag other countries, not just America, into conflicts where these countries have no vital interests”

As has been noted on these comments many times, if Putin really wants to go back to pretending this is about NATO (is it really that day of the week again?), as opposed to the one about how Ukraine doesn’t exist, or the narco-maniac Nazi Jew in Kyiv, or Putin’s I-do-what-I-want! compulsion to be the next Peter the Great, let’s remind ourselves that until he started dismembering Ukraine, thereby shredding the Budapest Memorandum that his government had previously signed and managed to honor for decades, public opinion in Ukraine was decidedly against NATO accession. And as the case of Finland and Sweden shows, without that public approval NATO is happy to wait.

To the extent Putin wants to cry about a problem that his own bungling created in the first place, and thinks the Ukrainians should be punished for having the audacity to turn their hopes to NATO once he showed his true colors, it’s more or less like that one about the defendant in courtroom crying to the judge to have mercy on a poor orphan, and then someone having the gall to point out that the reason he’s on trial in the first place is that the people he murdered were his parents.

He is a Serbo-Croation

Learn new trivia every day.
Thought he was a Brooklyn bagel baker.
An original Yid from somewhere dark.

I made a lot of comments but you counted them, so who is obsessed?

How many comments did the insane Putinists make as a group? How many people told us that Russia has been winning and will win and deserves to win? How many people said that they don’t care who wins and then made it clear that they are lying and that they actually want Russia to win in order to put the “homosexualists” in their place? How many presented highly selective, sometimes completely false, versions of Ukrainian history lifted from Russian propaganda? How many viewed the war as a project of the Zionists? Etc.

There are a lot of points where I agree with the general consensus of the Unz crowd on issues concerning Wokeness, BLM, etc. The obsession about trannies is overblown but it is likewise overblown on the Left – they were the ones who turned a tiny group into a culture war issue in the first place. I even understood the anti-vax sentiment which is a result of people’s distrust of authority in general. Our authorities have lied too us too often and are no longer entitled to the benefit of the doubt. On immigration, while I don’t agree with the “zero immigration” sentiment, what we have now (which is essentially open borders) is not viable and we need to get serious about having a controlled system of immigration.

However, the Russian invasion of Ukraine is almost universally condemned (and not just by the Globohomo West). In the UN, a resolution which “deplores in the strongest terms” the aggression by Russia and affirms the international community’s commitment to the sovereignty, independence, unity and territorial integrity of Ukraine was approved by 141 countries. Only 5 UN member states voted against it: Russia, Belarus, DPRK (North Korea), Eritrea and Syria. (A number of other countries including China abstained but the fact that they did not vote with Russia is very telling.) This frankly puts you in shitty company. Y’all are the ones who have lost your collective minds over this and are openly siding with America’s enemies, not me.

Today what is happening is a war of Ukraine against Russia. Zelensky cares far more about where the border ends up than Eisenhower did in 1953, and Putin cares far more about where the border ends up than Mao did in 1953

China was in bad shape so soon after the Civil War but it still chose to back North Korea, and when US armies were closing in on the Chinese border, the Chairman threw his best lightly armed troops into diect combat against Americans although the US had nuclear weapons, which China did not. When the Chinese were forced back from their gains by overwhelming US firepower, they dug in, clung on in the face of massive bombardments and seemed unwilling to quit. Eisenhower had to threaten use of nuclear weapons to get China to agree to a cease fire. I think America was repeatedly astounded by how much Mao cared.

Russia’s feverish building of fortifications in what they occupy of Ukraine has intensified even further in the last few weeks. I think the Russians have it in mind to apply slow but inexorable pressure at select points while hunkering down to fight a defensive artillery heavy battle, which is something they are far better trained and equipped for doing than combined arms maneuver offensives, which given omniscient US surveillance must merely run into the Ukrainians all set up and waiting. Tanks are being used individually as embedded support for infantry. I do not think the war will fizzle out; continuation of the snail’s pace progress by Russia in Donbass is most likely.

Muggles,
Going to a country to make money doesn’t mean you have to respect the inhabitants or desire to assimilate. It’s quite possible to immigrate to America and view the inhabitants with contempt. It would not be hard to find examples of immigrants who dislike Americans but are happy to stay here and participate in the carnival. One easy tell is if an immigrant belongs to any sort of ethnic association (those should be outlawed). But it isn’t limited to that. I’ve overheard numerous immigrants complain about how lazy Americans are. I’m not naive, I’d probably do the same, and we do have lots of lumpenproles, but the sense of entitlement is always shocking.

Indeed, if recent history is proof, many immigrants want to come here, benefit from the advantages America offers, AND use the military or assets of “their fellow Americans” to advance their tribal grievances back home.

People point to AIPAC, but that is just the most powerful, and egregious example. Most of the diaspora groups would do the same if they had the same clout.

The one upside to all this is as we become more diverse it is more difficult for our leaders to rally the people for some foreign idiocy. Lots of people talk about a draft or American kids fighting. That ain’t happening (I hope). More likely is what will happen is sunk costs and inflation.

I made a lot of comments but you counted them, so who is obsessed?

It took me about 20 seconds to count your posts. How long did it take you to bang out your word salad? I’m going with you as the obsessed one.

How many comments did the insane Putinists make as a group?

Don’t know, don’t care. My comment was about you making an ass out of yourself. Stay on topic.

How many people said that they don’t care who wins and then made it clear that they are lying and that they actually want Russia to win in order to put the “homosexualists” in their place?

I’m going with zero, until you can back your deranged accusations with a citation.

However, the Russian invasion of Ukraine is almost universally condemned…blah blah blah repeat yourself blah blah recite things everyone already knows….A number of other countries including China abstained but…blah blah blah repeat yourself.

I edited it for you, too many words. Try for conciseness Jack, it’ll make you a better writer.

Y’all are the ones who have lost your collective minds over this and are openly siding with America’s enemies, not me.

No sorry immigrant, I’m an American. I am siding with America, not with whatever your late-arriving immigrant mind has identified as “America’s enemies” this year. The America nation doesn’t have “enemies”, the American nation has interests. Ukraine is not one of those interests. Russia is not one of those interests. That you are too calcified, lazy, or just dishonest to accept that says an awful lot about you, none of it good.

I’m Mad Bruh: Johann Ricke

Yes. I remember the long-running “Scotch-Irish” joke.

I could have sworn I saw a comment several years ago by Whiskey mentioning that he was on dialysis. I don’t wish poor health on anybody.

When the Chinese were forced back from their gains by overwhelming US firepower, they dug in, clung on in the face of massive bombardments and seemed unwilling to quit. Eisenhower had to threaten use of nuclear weapons to get China to agree to a cease fire. I think America was repeatedly astounded by how much Mao cared.

Pork Chop Hill is the grim story of one of the major battles of the Korean War. While negotiators are at work in Panmunjom trying to bring the conflict to a negotiated end, Lt. Joe Clemons is ordered to launch an attack and retake Pork Cop Hill. It’s tough on the soldiers who know that the negotiations are under way and no one wants to die when they think it will all soon be over. The hill is of no particular strategic military value but all part of showing resolve during the negotiations. Under the impression that the battle has been won, battalion eadquarters orders some of the men withdrawn when in fact they are in dire need of reinforcements and supplies. As the Chinese prepare to counterattack and broadcast propaganda over loudspeakers, the men prepare for what may be their last battle.

https://tubitv.com/movies/310146/pork-chop-hill?https://tubitv.com/home?utm_source=_dsa_null_broad_legacy_null_films&utm_medium=adwords_cpc&utm_campaign=null-null-us_nb_variable_search_desktop_google_null_biddable_en_titles

Russia, has nothing against America or would have nothing if we just left them alone to live according to their system (which is by the way morally superior to ours). Europe is after all in their back yard and not ours. Russia has been invaded many times and needs to protect itself against future invasion by fascists. America has no enemies. If we just mind our own business, no one would bother us from across the distant oceans.

These used to be the exact talking points of the American Communist Party. How did they get to be the talking points of the American Right? I feel like I am living in the Mirror Universe. Where is Bad Spock?

Mike, that’s hilarious, but for one omission:

Wow, after a three week absence (last comment feb 23rd), look who shows up the last couple days to push the kovid and THE You-KKKrane narratives!

You are obviously not the only knucklehead here who keeps writing THE ukraine incorrectly.

Russia… according to their system (which is by the way morally superior to ours)

Said Jack, not me.

Russia has been invaded many times and needs to protect itself against future invasion by fascists.

Said Jack, not me. Remember the part where I’ve told you numerous times I don’t care about Russia or what happens to it? I get that transmit-only is your default setting but its really tiresome. Though I admit I’m coming to hope Russia wins, just because it would make your head explode.

America has no enemies.

America has no permanent enemies (examples: France, the UK, Germany, Japan). Only permanent interests. As of today, Russia is neither friend nor enemy (to the American nation that is, it may be to wherever you are loyal).

If we just mind our own business, no one would bother us from across the distant oceans.

Said Jack, nobody else.

These used to be the exact talking points of the American Communist Party.

I wouldn’t know, not having ever been a communist. That’s you people’s thing so I’ll take you at your word. Are you sure though these were “the exact talking points”? That wouldn’t be a little hyperbole/lie would it?

Also you’re betraying your decrepitude age – I’m older than most commenters here, and the American Communist Party was already a footnote by the time I came of age. That its still in your frontal lobe is…telling.

I feel like I am living in the Mirror Universe.

Ahh, now your posts are more understandable. You spend your time arguing with people that exist in your head.

Just put Biden in what you say about Putin and you have the future United States.

That’s the problem – you have no historic memory. You are like those brain-damaged guys who meet their nurses anew every morning because they can’t remember what happened yesterday. There is tremendous continuity in Russian Imperialist behavior from Czars to Communists to Putin (and in the excuses that Russia’s enablers in the West make to excuse Russian bad behavior) but to you and the Putinists this seems like a brand new situation that started in 2014 when the Ukrainians suddenly pogrommed the Russians of the Donbas and brave Putin rescued them. If your historical perspective doesn’t even go back to 1983*, then you are bound to get the wrong answers:

*In 1983, the US began to deploy nuclear tipped cruise missiles in Europe. Since the Russians had nothing to match, they organized an “anti-nuclear movement” in Europe and the US. Strangely, there was no anti-nuclear movement in Russia demonstrating against the Soviet govt having nuclear weapons.) Just like the people here today, most of the marchers didn’t even realize that they were Russian shills.

https://www.upi.com/Archives/1983/10/22/An-estimated-300000-anti-nuclear-demonstrators-jammed-London-Saturday-march/8828435643200/

The Guardian newspaper said Saturday the first cruise missiles would arrive in Britain within 10 days, by Nov. 1. The Ministry of Defense refused comment.

The prediction agitated hundreds of marchers, who came from every strand of British life. Communist organizations were out in force, but there were mothers with babes in arms and an elderly lady with a dog whose red jacket proclaimed ‘Dogs against the bomb.’

This was the UK but the same thing went on in the US. Maybe by 1983 the American Communist Party per se was a spent force – they were reborn in disguise as the left wing of the Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders (honeymooned in the USSR) embodies it to this day.

That’s all very interesting about how Americans differ over the correct explanations for Russian behavior, but the attitude of Russians is what matters and they have had a bellyful

Votes in the UN are meaningless and since the majority of the nations in the UN are tiny countries with tiny economies, they are easily bought and influenced. Voting against “Russian Aggression” is a very general and a mum and apple pie action and looks good on paper when you come up to apply for more aid from western countries. Many of these same countries are lining up with the new Russia/Chinese led economic order because they see that the US led economic order is on it’s way out.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FrNBqXbXgAAnsGY?format=jpg&name=small

I made a lot of comments but you counted them, so who is obsessed?

Maybe he works on your unauthorized bio ?

Most-not all-commenters here are emotionally immature, bad mannered, behaving like a dumped hysterical girlfriend. Nosey Parkers in search of Freud.

Sad!

Zelensky does care immensely about where the line ends up, but he also knows that if we stop backing him, that line is going to be the border with Poland. We can get to a compromise by letting him know we are turning off the spigot.

The risk to that, of course, is that if we get in too deep, then our government looks weak / stupid etc. if that happens. This is a big reason Zelensky wants us to keep upping the commitment beyond the obvious of the weapons themselves helping a lot on the battlefield).

Here is an equally impressive map:

Roughly speaking the Ukrainian front stretches around 1,000 miles and there are 300,000 Russian troops in Ukraine so around 300 soldiers to defend every mile. Do you really think the Ukrainians can’t punch thru this if they concentrate their forces at certain points? Did the Russians not build fortifications near Kharkiv and Kherson and were they not pushed back?

I haven’t been able to eat a perogie since.

If it’s any consolation, those are associated with Czechs and Slovaks as well, and I think Poles do them too, under a different name.

I asked a new coffee shop nearby, one with Slovak roots, when they were going to offer pierogi(e)s. Not anytime soon– those are labor-intensive, what with pastry flour and such.

The Russians can have whatever attitude they want inside their own borders. The Russians murdered 50,000 of their own citizens in Chechnya and no one in the West batted an eyelash. Putin systematically dismantled all aspects of a free society in Russia and murdered his political opponents and no on in the West cared. But when they invaded the territory of a sovereign country in Europe and tried to overthrow the democratically elected government by sending tanks to the capital, that got the West’s attention.

Being a “fed” agent I’d consider a high complement.

I am not now, but would be pleased to be one under President DeSantis.

The only excuse for that is if our word for them is insulting.

Well, one other excuse– postal confusion. We are asked to write “Ivory Coast” in French and “Timor Leste” in Portuguese because the literal translations of these names differ wildly in the world’s languages. What is the postal worker halfway between Hanover and Yamoussoukro supposed to do with Elfenbeinküste?

Same probably goes for “White Russia”, which still goes by that in many neighboring countries’ tongues. Still, it sounds better than Belarus, which looks like a cheap Shenzhen-knockoff snowmobile brand.

Oh look more word spam from Jack. Normally I have you set to “ignore” but after scrolling past a few dozen Jack D grayed out “show comments” and I had to weigh in.

Let me head you off at the “but you’re posting too” pass:

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That’s the problem – you have no historic memory.

I don’t need historic “memory” because I can read. I’ll fast forward from Peter the Great, past the Great Game, past WW1 and WW2 and the Cold War to today. I know that the USSR no longer exists and that Russia (the “gas station with nukes” as you once wrote, copying it from someone else of course) is no longer a threat to the United States.

I know that you’re really old but even you don’t remember Tsars or even remember when your people established Bolshevism. You are emotional on this topic, which leads to your inability to think clearly. But by all means, bang out another few dozen repetitive comments.

There is tremendous continuity in Russian Imperialist behavior….blah blah Putinists blah blah pogrommed blah blah repeat things everyone knows blah blah Russians blah blah blah Putin blah blah

I get why this is important to YOU – you are emotionally tied to the “Old Country”. I believe you when you say that Russia has had “tremendous continuity”, in their behavior towards YOUR people. I knew this already, I just don’t care.

That’s the problem – you have no historic memory. You don’t know it means to leave the Old World (and your ethnic grudges) behind and become an American. You becoming a Wretched Refuse-American doesn’t mean we have to fight your battles for you.

the Putinists

Oh look, a Jew is name-calling. Again.

*In 1983, wiki cut-and paste blah blah more cut-and-paste blah blah.

In 1983 things were getting pretty tense with the Soviets, were you serving in the U.S. military? Ha ha j/k we know the answer: Fighting is for people that can’t spew words by the millions.

AFAIK, Ukraine is accepting volunteers. I know that you’re elderly now, but you’ve mentioned a son. Why don’t you encourage him to go fight? Why is it always “we” with you people, by which you mean “someone else besides us”? Show us you can fight too. Send us some pics of Jack Jr ready for action. Less talk more action.

I haven’t been able to eat a perogie since.

First of all, it’s pierogi. 2nd, that’s a Polish word. Ukrainians call them vareniki.

Military history precedents could have been helpful. In 7 CE Silla defeated Tang China, but halted its advance at the Taedong River, where modern Pyongyang lies. This formed a stable border for the next two and half centuries between Silla, and Chinese / Manchurian polities hostile to it,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silla–Tang_War

In 16 CE Joseon refused Toyotomi Hideyoshi’s request to “borrow temporary entry on way to Ming”. The samurais advanced north rapidly. The Ming was embroiled in internal political crisis and reluctant to intervene. But when the Japanese breached the Taedong defense line, finally did, and repulsed the overextended Japanese.

UN forces were also overextended by the time of their Race to Yalu. But had they halted at the Taedong, PRC might not have entered.

Edwin Moise, the writer of that letter, is a historian and a professor of 20th century military history.

And a long-time colleague of my father’s. And a Democrat.

For people like you, there is a Cossack round every corner and a pogrom just over the horizon. Have a nice day !

Being a “fed” agent I’d consider a high complement.

lol. Imagine thinking being a warmongering, lying member of the Stasi a “high compliment.” Only a Deep State fed would think his evil job his admirable and desirable.

I am not now, but would be pleased to be one under President DeSantis

lmao. Shocking that this Deep State fed wants an obvious Deep State plant who is designed to steal Trump’s base and run to the right — only to shift right to a swamp rat the moment he might get “elected.”

You Deep State feds are such enemies of the people.

Don’t bother the fed HackD with facts. As a Deep State warmongerer, he can’t be bothered with facts.