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Famous political reporter Theodore White didn’t include the following story in his romanticized bestseller The Making of the President celebrating the election of John F. Kennedy in 1960, but he did put it in his 1978 autobiography In Search of History:

Even in the most corrupt states of the Union, one cannot steal more than one or two percent of the vote… The AP was pressing its reporters for returns, and the reporters were trying to gouge out of the Republican and Democratic machines their vote-stealing, precinct by precinct totals. … It was downstate (Republican) versus Cook County (Democratic), and the bosses, holding back totals from key precincts, were playing out their concealed cards under pressure of publicity as in a giant game of blackjack.

… the AP ticker chattered its keys once more and reported: ‘ With all downstate precincts now reported in, and only Cook County precincts unreported, Richard Nixon has surged into the lead by 3,000 votes.’

I was dismayed, for if Nixon really carried Illinois, the game was all but over. And at this point I was jabbed from dismay by the outburst of jubilation from young Dick Donahue, who yelped, ‘He’s got them! Daley made them go first! He’s still holding back — watch him play his hand now.” I was baffled, they were elated. But they knew the counting game better than I, and as if in response to Donahue’s yelp, the ticker, having stuttered along for several minutes with other results, announced: ‘With the last precincts of Cook County now in, Senator Kennedy has won a lead of 8,000 votes to carry Illinois’s 27 electoral votes.’

Later that evening, Kennedy told his friend Ben Bradlee of an early call from Daley, when all seemed in doubt. ‘With a little bit of luck and the help of a few close friends,’ Daley had assured Kennedy before the AP had pushed out the count, ‘you’re going to carry Illinois.’

Note: it’s often recounted that Illinois determined the 1960 election. But, in truth, Nixon would have had to carry both of the states that were late in getting their votes in — Illinois and Texas — to win 270 Electoral Votes.

 
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  1. Landslide Lyndon also made sure the votes came in to win Texas.

    • Replies: @I, Libertine
    @LondonBob

    Johnson earned the nickname "Landslide Lyndon" by winning his first Senatorial race by 87 votes. His adversary, outgoing Governor Coke Stevenson, appeared to have the 1948 Democratic primary won by the narrowest of margins. In those days, victory in a Democrat primary in Texas was tantamount to election. But 200 additional votes from one district arrived at the end of the vote-counting, and put Johnson over the top. Funny thing was - all 200 voters used the same pen to sign in at the polling place, and they showed up in alphabetical order. No mail-in ballots back then.

    Of course, the ensuing dispute went all the the the U.S. Supreme Court, and resulted in ruling that federal courts can't interfere with state party primary elections, handing LBJ the Senate seat.

    Who knows how those 200 "votes" changed history? LBJ never replaces JFK as president without them, for a variety of obvious reasons. The last in that long chain of events: Kennedy doesn't visit LBJ's home state in November 1963, and doesn't get his head blown off there - even if you believe . . . you know what. Is the Viet Nam War as protracted, costly and divisive? Do liberals push the Great Society through Congress without his masterful control of the levers of power? What about that 1965 immigration reform?

    I love alternate history.

    Replies: @Excal, @Paul Rise

    , @Paul Jolliffe
    @LondonBob

    C’mon, if you’re going to reference the 1948 Senate Democratic primary, you gotta show the picture of LBJ’s henchmen, grinning like crazy as they pose around the infamous 13th precinct box!
    200 “additional” votes, mysteriously appeared at the last moment to give Johnson the win by 87 votes (out of 1.1 million m
    https://roughdiplomacy.com/box-13-scandal/

  2. South Texas was notorious for “found” ballot boxes in those days. Robert Caro recounts in his biographies of Johnson how the trick was used to make Johnson a Senator.

    I recall a hysterical a Wolf Blitzer on Election night 2016 begging John King to find votes for Clinton on his big board. It’s a good thing that King wasn’t actually in a position to deliver.

    Fortunately, Illinois is so deep blue that it no longer matters. Texas is again a problem.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @The Alarmist


    South Texas was notorious for “found” ballot boxes in those days. Robert Caro recounts in his biographies of Johnson how the trick was used to make Johnson a Senator.
     
    I think of LBJ every time some media hack pronounces that "vote fraud" is simply not a thing.

    The Box 13 scandal was an event which occurred in Alice, Texas during the Senate election of 1948.[1] Lyndon B. Johnson was on the verge of losing the election to Coke Stevenson. Six days after polls had closed, 202 additional ballots were discovered in Precinct 13, which were in Johnson's favor. Stevenson was about 854 votes ahead of Johnson during the run-off. Stevenson was still ahead by midday, but after the discovery of the additional ballots, 200 additional votes for Johnson were discovered, leading to his victory by 87 votes out of 1 million voters.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_13_scandal
     
    , @AnotherDad
    @The Alarmist


    Fortunately, Illinois is so deep blue that it no longer matters. Texas is again a problem.
     
    Texas isn't the problem. Pennsylvania is the big problem, and maybe Michigan or Wisconsin. Trump needs at least one of the three.

    The Democrats--in King County--probably stole the 2004 Washington governor's election. On the third or fourth try they miraculously found a new batch of de-enveloped but "mislaid" ballots which flipped it from Dino Rossi to Christine Gregoire. It was the classic scenario Steve recounts from 1960--after a couple recounts they knew the number they had to come up with ... and came up with it.

    Republicans are absolute fools for allowing this scenario to exist. This mail-in thing is ripe for fraud. Republicans need to lock in a system--with hard legal stops--that every last ballot that is legitimate to count, must be turned in and locked down ... and only then counting. And the state--not Democratic counties--counts and reports, with nothing being revealed until every last vote in the state has been counted. This is not hard stuff to do.

    Better is getting rid of this mail in fraud.

    Have only in person voting and on-line voting (public software everyone can check) that is secure and signed in a way that allows the voter--but only the voter--to check that his specific vote remains the vote he cast with the signed proof demonstrating any attempt at alteration/fraud. (To the system it is just a valid vote.) This again is not an undoable project. You don't like/trust the on-line thing--you vote old style in person.

    Replies: @Veracitor, @Odin

  3. Mr. White was dismayed at first. No bias there, huh? I suppose these political reports have been biased one way or another since Day 1, but a difference is that nowadays, they all seem to follow the same Establishment narrative. Our Establishment is hard left now, though.

    I recently read Pat Buchanan’s book The Greatest Comeback about Nixon’s 1968 primary and general election campaign. (See the Peak Stupidity review here.) One thing that struck me is how closely these politicians worked with newspapermen, as in, the press of the time. Mr. Buchanan had been one, as he was hired for the Nixon campaign directly from his job at a newspaper in St. Louis.

    The difference back then was that there were plenty of conservative reporters and newspaper owners. Mr. Nixon or his people would work closely with the guys that were favorable to Nixon, even sending their own versions of editorials or editing things with these newspapermen. Actually, per the book, Nixon was not so much a conservative (Reagan was too far right for him), as just a guy who wanted to get enough votes to win the election period. (Mr. Buchanan does not come out and say that in the book, as he is still loyal to Nixon, but it’s the theme of the whole thing.)

    Nixon had been called a “loser” since losing both the 1960 Presidential election and the 1962 California Governorship election. That was his main concern, being a winner. He really could have gone a good bit this way or a good bit that way on the Vietnam war, civil rites, and the stand on law & order, as it was all about simply getting enough votes to be a winner.

    Then there was TV. Nixon was still recovering from an illness and had not gotten much sleep before that famous 1960 debate on TV, in which he is said to have won per radio listeners but lost per TV watchers.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Remember Achmed, Nixon had the right enemies.

    , @Stan Adams
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nixon had a huge lead at the beginning of the '68 campaign (after the Democrats' disastrous convention in Chicago) but came within a hair's breadth of losing to Hubert Humphrey.

    The night before the election, the TV networks trumpeted polls showing Humphrey with a narrow lead:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KToSJUKoJUQ



    I have been reviewing old newspaper articles and TV reports on YouTube, trying (among other things) to determine if there is any precedent for a candidate's suspending in-person campaigning during the week before the election.

    Nixon remained in seclusion in the days before his landslide victory in 1972, but aside from that, every major-party candidate (even ones who were shoe-ins, such as Reagan in 1984) has made numerous appearances in the final week. Biden's decision to stay out of sight is unprecedented.

    In case anyone is interested, here are newscasts from the day before each presidential election, going back to 1972. (1968 is above.)

    1972:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvk05Ty0sDo

    1976:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv1zGnua6EQ

    1980:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2UMW03k8k

    1984:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxeE2t9329E

    1988:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89XwqyjWaFQ

    1992:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddOWZJvgHPs

    1996:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vduNPtiTv1Y

    2000:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll0-uR6aWoc

    2004:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px3Uz4DOrxg

    2008:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8OvUuBK48g

    2012:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWaEjpQdFbc

    2016:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqwlaOKJ_tQ

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

    , @David In TN
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In 1968 most major newspapers would endorse the Republican candidate (Nixon included) for President. Most reporters by a healthy margin in 1968 were liberals, maybe a few conservatives.

    JFK's press secretary, Pierre Salinger, in his mid-60's book, wrote something like: "The newspaper owners were for Nixon but most reporters were for Senator Kennedy."

    Replies: @Corn

    , @Kronos
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nice choice!

    , @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    If you think that the US press is egregious now, you should read what General Grant has to say about them in his civil war biography...


    In the North the press was free up to the point of open treason....
     

    The copperhead disreputable portion of the press magnified rebel successes, and belittled those of the Union army. It was, with a large following, an auxiliary to the Confederate army. The North would have been much stronger with a hundred thousand of these men in the Confederate ranks and the rest of their kind thoroughly subdued, as the Union sentiment was in the South, than we were as the battle was fought
     

    Replies: @Muggles

  4. Democracy is gay beyond belief.

    • LOL: Charon
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AndrewR


    Democracy is gay beyond belief.

     

    Mencken would agree. Good and hard!



    https://external-preview.redd.it/3sFH4aSD_ybRowyS9VmwcIpyWZo9BXkkjMRpK1ZKKBA.jpg?auto=webp&s=47a8ebe0296ce521a13883863d485f672315cc56

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @syonredux
    @AndrewR

    ....As opposed to monarchy.....

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harden%E2%80%93Eulenburg_affair

    , @tyrone
    @AndrewR

    You forgot….not that there's anything wrong with that.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @AndrewR

    What makes you think that we live in a democracy?

    Replies: @hhsiii

  5. The C-Span interviews with that Brooklyn Commie Jew Caro and his biography of LBJ are fascinating on this subject , at least they were to me . And even though I’m a dyed in the wool antiSemite I do like Caro despite his many detractors . And by the way Brian Lamb is one of the best hosts (?) , interviewers there are , he never interrupts his guests to say “hey , I’m smart too” . I read some where that on average in a 50 min. interview he only speaks for 5 min.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @donut


    "...he never interrupts his guests to say “hey , I’m smart too."
     
    Perfect. Though I am not familiar with either Caro or Lamb, dyed in the wool as he may be.

    Replies: @hhsiii

  6. Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he’d gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way – that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn’t vote early like she was going to, and I’ll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we’ve already seen, but there is much more time during which the D’s can work it all out, after they’ve got the numbers.* It doesn’t have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don’t. I’ve had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    “Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?” my wife asked, as it’s probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!

    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R’s and registered D’s. That doesn’t mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That’s a real question I’ve got. Maybe it’s on my voter card, but I’ll have to dig that up, as you don’t need it anymore – just the ID.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @Achmed E. Newman

    > Maybe it’s on my voter card, but... you don’t need it anymore [to vote in person] – just the ID.

    Requiring either is a terrible burden for you, Citizen. Your handsome face and illegible scrawl are all that’s required in this state, where all elections are free, fair, and honest.

    Replies: @Aardvark

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Have some hope, people!
     
    I dunno man, it's getting tough.

    In the wealthy rural exurb I regularly drive 8 miles through to go trail running, there are about a dozen houses with political signs.

    Eleven are for Biden, only one for Trump.

    I hate this timeline.
    , @TomSchmidt
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You can tell a Trump neighborhood in blue country by the lack of ANY Presidential signs. You can tell a Biden neighborhood by the presence of BLM signs, and by the near-universal masking of people out in public. No one here is going to incite the wrath of the people in power, the ones who control BLM and AntiFa.

    But on Election Day they'll mutter, under their breath "E pur si muove."

    Replies: @epebble, @John Milton’s Ghost

    , @theMann
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hope for three reasons:

    1. The silent majority, which is mostly White, has of necessity been roused by the Democrats race-baiting.

    2. Even if it is a small section of the populace, those of us confronting the series of War Crimes known as Covid are extremely committed to action.

    3. The Republican ground game for registering voters has been exceptional.

    That is the good news.

    The bad news:

    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can't pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.

    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46, @PhysicistDave

    , @peterike
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we’ve already seen, but there is much more time during which the D’s can work it all out, after they’ve got the numbers.

     

    Exactly. Hence the ongoing furious battles to allow states to keep counting until days after the election. Pennsylvania in particular seems to be targeted by the Dems for fraud, with a big fat helping hand from the execrable Justice Roberts. The amazing thing is that they aren't maneuvering behind closed door, but absolutely out in public, using the courts. They are openly displaying their fraud scheme for all to see, but since the media isn't interested, nothing happens.

    Team Trump is battling this state by state, but they only have to lose in a few key states. I think Trump will legitimately win in both Michigan and Pennsylvania but will ultimately lose a few days later thanks to fraud.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Paul Mendez
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My concern with waiting until Election Day to vote is that, at least in my state of Maryland, there will be drastically fewer polling places than usual. Today is the first day of early, in-person voting. I’m heading out in a few hours.

    , @Paul Mendez
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My concern with waiting until Election Day to vote is that, at least in my state of Maryland, there will be drastically fewer polling places than usual. Today is the first day of early, in-person voting. I’m heading out in a few hours.

    Replies: @Clyde, @donut

    , @Clyde
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Early life
    White was born May 6, 1915, in Dorchester, Boston, the son of David White, a lawyer. He was raised Jewish. In his memoir In Search of History: A Personal Adventure, White describes helping form one of the early Zionist collegiate organizations during his time in college.[2] He was a student at Boston Latin School, from which he graduated in 1932; from there, he went on to Harvard University, from which he graduated with a B.A. in Chinese history as a student of John K. Fairbank, who went on to become America's foremost China scholar. He wrote for The Harvard Crimson during his time at Harvard.[3]

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I think the outcome of this election is as uncertain as the outcome of the last but maybe with just a bit more of an edge for Trump this time around. I was forced to watch five or ten minutes of an MSNBC “news” segment while visiting my sister this past Sunday. The disconnect from reality was even more startling than I imagined. These prog outlets may unwittingly be recreating the same sense of smug complacency in the dimocrat base that helped boost Trump to victory last time. A similar pre-election pattern in polling results is once again emerging. It’s interesting that Trump seems to have increased his support among Negroes to some degree.

    I am very concerned about the usual dimocrat voting fraud hijinx. These appear to have ramped up considerably this election cycle. If it weren’t for these I’d be as confident of a Trump victory this time as I was the last.

  7. Even in the most corrupt states of the Union, one cannot steal more than one or two percent of the vote..

    Maybe one cannot, but many acting ‘independently’ certainly can. I know an election official who insists that her precinct is run with competence and integrity, and I’ve no reason to doubt her. But the other districts, well she can tell you stories about those.

    Consider the constant drumbeat of narratives in the mass media these past few years insisting that the nation is being hijacked by Literally Nazis. Isn’t anything, anything justifiable when you’re fighting Literal Nazis? I think we can all agree on this one. Thank you for your time and support.

    • Agree: Charon
  8. An interesting argument in favor of the electoral college is that it removes the incentive to ballot stuff in the deep red and deep blue states where extensive single party control would make it the biggest problem. With the electoral college it’s only a big problem in the highly democratic and republican areas within swing states, which would to some extent cancel each other out since a swing state sorta needs to have one if it has the other.

    So everyone here thinks the 2020 ballot counting is going to be a weeks long shit show?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Agree wholeheartedly with your point concerning the Electoral College.

    , @Paul Jolliffe
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Yes, I think the ballot counting will be a weeks long shit show.

    A positive though: Hillary Clinton announced that a Trump victory would “cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    You know, I’d almost pay to watch her get “cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    A Pay-per-View event opportunity, maybe?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfla.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-thought-of-trump-winning-again-makes-me-literally-sick-to-my-stomach/amp/

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

    , @anon
    @Guy De Champlagne

    An interesting argument in favor of the electoral college

    Is found in Federalist #68

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._68

    http://electoralcollegehistory.com/electoral/federalist68.asp

    There aren't any "issues"or "questions" the typical trolling shill can raise that have not already been answered.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne

    , @Travis
    @Guy De Champlagne

    I agree, the electoral college offers many benefits. Also reduces my exposure to political Ads, living in the NY metro area. While my Mother in PA is now being bombarded with political commercials.

    Counting the votes becomes a waste of time in most states, thanks to the electoral college, thus cheating is pointless in states like NY and NJ. Nothing to gain by changing the vote totals by 2%.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Guy De Champlagne

  9. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    > Maybe it’s on my voter card, but… you don’t need it anymore [to vote in person] – just the ID.

    Requiring either is a terrible burden for you, Citizen. Your handsome face and illegible scrawl are all that’s required in this state, where all elections are free, fair, and honest.

    • Replies: @Aardvark
    @ic1000

    I'm still waiting to see how someone signs up for any sort of government assistance and can simply claim their name is "Jose Akhmed Nunyabizwax" and no further identity verification is needed, lest they become "disenfranchised"...

  10. OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Polistra

    Just Wow! Tampax is literally doubling it's market overnight, or over a short period (groan). This is marketing genius! Steve, why didn't you think of something like this when you were in marketing? It's bleedin' brilliant, mate!

    OK, I have so many more jokes on this that I better save for a good blog post.

    Thank you so much, Polista. You don't know how much this brightened my high-flow day over here.

    .

    I gotta go ... feelin' cramped ... somebody cue up the Alice Cooper. I don't' know why I gotta do that every time. And, you people always give me a hard time for writing too many comments. What does it take to please you people?! I don't know if I can keep commenting. Everything sucks. It's always gonna suck ...

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @MEH 0910

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Polistra

    You mean Alice Cooper lied to me? C'mon, man! Next, you'll be telling me Iggy doesn't want to be my dog anymore.

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Polistra

    Take THAT ciswomen bigots! Tampax lays the beatdown on TERF Supremacism!

    Wow, just Wow. I can't even.

    , @Kratoklastes
    @Polistra

    Only in America.

    , @Mike_from_SGV
    @Polistra

    This is a joke, right?

    , @Alden
    @Polistra

    I saw that. Proctor&Gamble is one of the wealthiest corporations in the world. Can’t claim they’re worried about pressure from the tyranny lobbyists . Therefore, Proctor&Gamble is pro trannies.

    Liberalism is a mental illness

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    , @Bill Jones
    @Polistra

    A joke, surely?

    No mention of the fact that the modern tamon was invented by a White Man?

    , @Hangnail Hans
    @Polistra

    This is CORPORATE AMERICA SPEAKING

    , @AnotherDad
    @Polistra

    Leftists love ugliness.

  11. Countries as corrupt as India and Mexico can run relatively clean elections, but the USA can’t, and never has.

    This message approve by President Tilden.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @theMann

    Mexico actually gives registered voters Registered Voter ID cards with their photo on it. Apparently Mexico didn’t get the memo from the Dems that’s racist.

    , @epebble
    @theMann

    India has a parliamentary style democracy, so there is no winner-take-all Flight 93 excitement over elections. The horse trading takes place after the elections (in the parliament, to form a government).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  12. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Have some hope, people!

    I dunno man, it’s getting tough.

    In the wealthy rural exurb I regularly drive 8 miles through to go trail running, there are about a dozen houses with political signs.

    Eleven are for Biden, only one for Trump.

    I hate this timeline.

  13. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    You can tell a Trump neighborhood in blue country by the lack of ANY Presidential signs. You can tell a Biden neighborhood by the presence of BLM signs, and by the near-universal masking of people out in public. No one here is going to incite the wrath of the people in power, the ones who control BLM and AntiFa.

    But on Election Day they’ll mutter, under their breath “E pur si muove.”

    • Replies: @epebble
    @TomSchmidt


    near-universal masking of people out in public
     
    If that had happened nationwide, Trump would be winning by 400 EC votes. Now people are muttering Jimmy Carter. Mask was the stupidest hill to die on, especially if the Senate goes to Democrats.
    , @John Milton’s Ghost
    @TomSchmidt

    I’m in a deep red state, but my precinct, near the local university, is slightly blue, having just edged for Hillary by a handful of votes. Until recently the only presidential signs were for Biden, a dozen to nothing. A handful of homes had down ticket signs for Republican candidates such as state legislators. In the last week a half dozen Trump signs have appeared. Lots of variables at play but it’s pretty clear many places that Trump supporters are less willing to risk their property for the yard sign. Don’t know if that translates to polls, as some speculate

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  14. @Achmed E. Newman
    Mr. White was dismayed at first. No bias there, huh? I suppose these political reports have been biased one way or another since Day 1, but a difference is that nowadays, they all seem to follow the same Establishment narrative. Our Establishment is hard left now, though.

    I recently read Pat Buchanan's book The Greatest Comeback about Nixon's 1968 primary and general election campaign. (See the Peak Stupidity review here.) One thing that struck me is how closely these politicians worked with newspapermen, as in, the press of the time. Mr. Buchanan had been one, as he was hired for the Nixon campaign directly from his job at a newspaper in St. Louis.

    The difference back then was that there were plenty of conservative reporters and newspaper owners. Mr. Nixon or his people would work closely with the guys that were favorable to Nixon, even sending their own versions of editorials or editing things with these newspapermen. Actually, per the book, Nixon was not so much a conservative (Reagan was too far right for him), as just a guy who wanted to get enough votes to win the election period. (Mr. Buchanan does not come out and say that in the book, as he is still loyal to Nixon, but it's the theme of the whole thing.)

    Nixon had been called a "loser" since losing both the 1960 Presidential election and the 1962 California Governorship election. That was his main concern, being a winner. He really could have gone a good bit this way or a good bit that way on the Vietnam war, civil rites, and the stand on law & order, as it was all about simply getting enough votes to be a winner.

    Then there was TV. Nixon was still recovering from an illness and had not gotten much sleep before that famous 1960 debate on TV, in which he is said to have won per radio listeners but lost per TV watchers.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Stan Adams, @David In TN, @Kronos, @Anonymous

    Remember Achmed, Nixon had the right enemies.

  15. Anon[305] • Disclaimer says:

    The New York Times writes about the NYC Elections Board. It sounds like the California DMV.

    Inside Decades of Nepotism and Bungling at the N.Y.C. Elections Board
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/nyregion/nyc-voting-election-board.html

    Let’s look at this presumably diverse board via the Times article.

    … more than a dozen current and former employees who told The Times that the agency has a culture where ineptitude is common and accountability is rare. Some staffers read or watch Netflix at the office, the employees said. Others regularly fail to show up for work, with no fear of discipline. Several employees said some staffers punch in and then leave to go shopping …

    Oh …

    … workers were smoking marijuana at the Brooklyn voting machine warehouse on an election night …

    Medical? …

    A core group of the political appointees are highly capable and keep the board running, but many others are unqualified, the employees said.

    So, a few competent employees babysitting layabouts who never get disciplined or fired …

    It is difficult to find skilled workers because many jobs involve tedious work and require late hours.

    Sounds like the first five years at a NYC white shoe law firm.

    Meanwhile in California …

    California DMV worker slept 3 hours a day at work for years, auditor’s report says
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/07/26/california-dmv-worker-slept-hours-day-work-years-auditors-report-says/

    And in D.C. …

    Metro derailed by culture of complacence, incompetence, lack of diversity
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/26/metro-derailed-by-culture-of-complacence-incompete/

    “Lack of diversity” here means that all the employees are black. Welcome to the future.

    It is a culture in which a white male engineer near completion of a Ph.D. was passed over for a management position in favor of a black man who was barely literate, multiple staffers said.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    @Anon

    I worked as a poll worker in NYC for a few cycles when my business got slow; thankfully it picked up. My retired teacher mom still does.There are some very competent people of all parties working for BOE. But at the same time you have entrenched incompetents of both parties. And the latter are a problem. They tend to show up at polling sites and think it's time to order everyone around , invariably when it's busy. Bad enough the job of poll worker is tedious and boring, and the equipment is clunky if functional. To have a politically-connected hack who usually smells of booze start acting like Colonel Klink on a power trip, no thanks. Chases away well-meaning people who take the job.

    The experience made me think we would be better off offering voting over the internet. Because this system could not be worse. NY poll workers can challenge voters by doing a signature comparison. But no poll worker gets a second of any such training. By law, NY state mandates no photo ID is required for voting. NY state offers a free photo ID through DMV, but somehow requiring people to meet that minimal requirement is RAYCESS!

    Replies: @Anon

    , @David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey
    @Anon

    Seems like TBBT (surprisingly RP for a mainstream show) where a dim ghetto harridan who looks like Michelle Obama determines the careers of smart, well-informed physicists from the advanced races. Normally they're never that realistic, wonder how it passed msm censors?

  16. Even in the most corrupt states of the Union, one cannot steal more than one or two percent of the vote…

    It is almost as if the smart thing for the Republicans to do would be to selectively insist that that the Democrats be allowed to “count every vote”.

    With mail in voting, not to mention the more traditional shenanigans, you are now bound to have thousands of precincts with 120%, 130%, 140%….. 200% turnout for the Democrats.

    This is where the role of the (((THREE LETTER NETWORKS))) are critical. In 1960 they could spin the fraud in Kennedy’s favor because it was relatively slight and white America trusted them.

    The #METoobin fiasco revealed that the (((Networks))) were all planning on how to coordinate spinning a massive obvious fraud. But what now given that no white cis-hetero male with a T-score above 200 would believe the (((MSM)))???

    They only way election night will work out for the Democrats is if Paul Ryan helps find a way to have Tucker Carlson assassinated.

    • Replies: @Peterike
    @anonymous-antimarxist

    “ you are now bound to have thousands of precincts with 120%, 130%, 140%….. 200% turnout for the Democrats.”

    There have already been cases of that in elections. Nobody cares.

  17. @LondonBob
    Landslide Lyndon also made sure the votes came in to win Texas.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Paul Jolliffe

    Johnson earned the nickname “Landslide Lyndon” by winning his first Senatorial race by 87 votes. His adversary, outgoing Governor Coke Stevenson, appeared to have the 1948 Democratic primary won by the narrowest of margins. In those days, victory in a Democrat primary in Texas was tantamount to election. But 200 additional votes from one district arrived at the end of the vote-counting, and put Johnson over the top. Funny thing was – all 200 voters used the same pen to sign in at the polling place, and they showed up in alphabetical order. No mail-in ballots back then.

    Of course, the ensuing dispute went all the the the U.S. Supreme Court, and resulted in ruling that federal courts can’t interfere with state party primary elections, handing LBJ the Senate seat.

    Who knows how those 200 “votes” changed history? LBJ never replaces JFK as president without them, for a variety of obvious reasons. The last in that long chain of events: Kennedy doesn’t visit LBJ’s home state in November 1963, and doesn’t get his head blown off there – even if you believe . . . you know what. Is the Viet Nam War as protracted, costly and divisive? Do liberals push the Great Society through Congress without his masterful control of the levers of power? What about that 1965 immigration reform?

    I love alternate history.

    • Thanks: Bugg, PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @Excal
    @I, Libertine

    It's pleasant to speculate on a world without him, but LBJ was going to make it to the top one way or another. If he had lost that case, he undoubtedly some other foothold ready to go. He had no conscience to slow his ascent.

    An essential part of the problem was the puddle of slime which produced that vile man. The corruption in Texas politics in those days was every bit as bad as anything in Illinois.

    Incidentally, when JFK was murdered, it was a very common opinion in Texas that LBJ had arranged it.

    , @Paul Rise
    @I, Libertine

    I interviewed Robert Caro years ago, and he said he had some interesting tidbits to share about the 1960 election in the final book of his LBJ.

    My guess is this has to do with LBJ and maybe JFKs sexual hijinks during that campaign. But it might involve some facet of the stolen election.

    For example - if LBJ was shtupping the wife of an organized crime figure who produced a lot of hinky votes in 1960, that would not have made it into the last book per other things Caro has said.

  18. This comment is semi-off topic, since the original post is really about vote stealing in 2020, not 1960, but the comment will be about political trivia about the 1960 election.

    Wikipedia lists the tipping point state in 1960 as Missouri. The closest Kennedy states listed were Hawaii (0.1% margin), Illinois (0.2%), and Missouri (0.5%). The closest Nixon state was California (0.5% margin). There was much less state by state variation in the results than is the case now, so twenty of the fifty states were won with margins of less than 5% in that election. And since 15 electors voted for neither Nixon or Kennedy, Nixon would have still needed to carry Kennedy states New Mexico and New Jersey

    Technically, the Democrats and Republicans are coalitions of state parties, and everything but financing is done in American elections on a state by state basis. State Democratic and Republican officials control the election boards that actually count the results. So Kennedy, who was, at least as much as Johnson, the machine candidate in the nomination contest, needed state parties in several states to be more effective at vote stealing than their Republican counterparts to win (0.7% and 0.8% margins), to get an electoral vote majority. Though Kennedy, who told people that he would have voted for Nixon if he wasn’t running himself, would likely have conceded if Nixon won the nationwide popular vote but was in a situation where he needed the fifteen Byrd electors to win.

    Nixon probably did win the nationwide popular vote, since Kennedy’s nationwide popular vote margin on mainstream sites like Wikipedia is produced by counting some of the votes for the Byrd electors as votes for Kennedy. Wikipedia at least has a section discussing this.

    Since the compromise of 1876, it is actually difficult for Democrats and Republicans to steal elections from each other, since officials from both state parties are usually the ones in charge of counting the votes. However, one party will often agree to have the election get stolen from them in instances where some maverick or reformer gets nominated. And your vote for the Libertarian candidate is likely not going to get counted. I think the play in 2020 is regime change, not in getting another Democratic hack elected, so there will be more “chaos” in the past.

    For Biden supporters, mask wearing in public has replaced the signs. I honestly prefer the signs.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @eD


    Since the compromise of 1876, it is actually difficult for Democrats and Republicans to steal elections from each other, since officials from both state parties are usually the ones in charge of counting the votes.
     
    Can you name me one election the Republicans stole? Serious question.

    Replies: @Polymath

  19. @ic1000
    @Achmed E. Newman

    > Maybe it’s on my voter card, but... you don’t need it anymore [to vote in person] – just the ID.

    Requiring either is a terrible burden for you, Citizen. Your handsome face and illegible scrawl are all that’s required in this state, where all elections are free, fair, and honest.

    Replies: @Aardvark

    I’m still waiting to see how someone signs up for any sort of government assistance and can simply claim their name is “Jose Akhmed Nunyabizwax” and no further identity verification is needed, lest they become “disenfranchised”…

  20. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Hope for three reasons:

    1. The silent majority, which is mostly White, has of necessity been roused by the Democrats race-baiting.

    2. Even if it is a small section of the populace, those of us confronting the series of War Crimes known as Covid are extremely committed to action.

    3. The Republican ground game for registering voters has been exceptional.

    That is the good news.

    The bad news:

    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can’t pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.

    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
    @theMann


    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.
     
    Leftists derive their power from "angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people." You do not want them to win, especially now, because the disasters you predict would only serve to consolidate and strengthen what is already their nearly complete grip on our country.
    , @AnotherDad
    @theMann


    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can’t pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.
     
    Where do you get this stuff?

    Democratic governors tanked their states economies:
    -- because they need to "do" something, exercising government power is "who they are"
    -- to screw the economy and ergo Trump
    -- to punish small business not on board

    The 2nd quarter was the worse quarterly drop in the economy--i believe--in my life.

    But now the economy is bouncing back strongly. If Trump is elected the surge will continue.

    But even if Biden is elected, he doesn't want a lingering recession it will be pedal to the metal on stimulus bailing out all the Democrat cities and states. And then--you can take it to the bank--suddenly they will discover that this covid thing isn't the end of the world. The vaccines work. New therapies work. "New data" shows it's not a big deal for 95% of folks.

    ~~

    And seriously "catastrophic food shortages?" huh? Trust me farmers weren't too scared to get into the field to plant or harvest. They got their crop in fine.

    Replies: @theMann

    , @MBlanc46
    @theMann

    You’re right about what to hope for tM. Let the Dems deal with the cesspit that they’ve created. The downside is that we won’t get to watch the wailing, beating of breasts, and pulling of hair by the Left. And poor Mr Trump will quite possibly be imprisoned.

    , @PhysicistDave
    @theMann

    theMann wrote:


    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.
     
    Neither party is willing to deal with the real issues tearing our country apart: the meaningless and soul-deadening rituals we put out children through that we pretend are "education," Sailer's favorite theme of "affordable family formation," the replacement of productive work by parasitic paper-shuffling "jobs" (what the late Dave Graeber, one of the righteous leftists, called "bullshit jobs" in his book of that title), a culture that tells women that bearing children is not a noble activity, etc.

    But... four years is a long time. If Trump is re-elected, we have four years of breathing room. If Biden is elected, Biden's "dark winter" for America starts on January 20, 2021.

    No, Donald Trump is not our salvation, and the Republic will (I hope) survive Joe Biden (well, really acting-President Harris). But it is easier to survive a thunderstorm than a hurricane.
  21. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we’ve already seen, but there is much more time during which the D’s can work it all out, after they’ve got the numbers.

    Exactly. Hence the ongoing furious battles to allow states to keep counting until days after the election. Pennsylvania in particular seems to be targeted by the Dems for fraud, with a big fat helping hand from the execrable Justice Roberts. The amazing thing is that they aren’t maneuvering behind closed door, but absolutely out in public, using the courts. They are openly displaying their fraud scheme for all to see, but since the media isn’t interested, nothing happens.

    Team Trump is battling this state by state, but they only have to lose in a few key states. I think Trump will legitimately win in both Michigan and Pennsylvania but will ultimately lose a few days later thanks to fraud.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @peterike

    I think DJT will win if the votes are counted accurately and honestly, but that is a big if. As you say, the Ds aren't even trying to hide their shenanigans, and may steal the election.

  22. @Achmed E. Newman
    Mr. White was dismayed at first. No bias there, huh? I suppose these political reports have been biased one way or another since Day 1, but a difference is that nowadays, they all seem to follow the same Establishment narrative. Our Establishment is hard left now, though.

    I recently read Pat Buchanan's book The Greatest Comeback about Nixon's 1968 primary and general election campaign. (See the Peak Stupidity review here.) One thing that struck me is how closely these politicians worked with newspapermen, as in, the press of the time. Mr. Buchanan had been one, as he was hired for the Nixon campaign directly from his job at a newspaper in St. Louis.

    The difference back then was that there were plenty of conservative reporters and newspaper owners. Mr. Nixon or his people would work closely with the guys that were favorable to Nixon, even sending their own versions of editorials or editing things with these newspapermen. Actually, per the book, Nixon was not so much a conservative (Reagan was too far right for him), as just a guy who wanted to get enough votes to win the election period. (Mr. Buchanan does not come out and say that in the book, as he is still loyal to Nixon, but it's the theme of the whole thing.)

    Nixon had been called a "loser" since losing both the 1960 Presidential election and the 1962 California Governorship election. That was his main concern, being a winner. He really could have gone a good bit this way or a good bit that way on the Vietnam war, civil rites, and the stand on law & order, as it was all about simply getting enough votes to be a winner.

    Then there was TV. Nixon was still recovering from an illness and had not gotten much sleep before that famous 1960 debate on TV, in which he is said to have won per radio listeners but lost per TV watchers.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Stan Adams, @David In TN, @Kronos, @Anonymous

    Nixon had a huge lead at the beginning of the ’68 campaign (after the Democrats’ disastrous convention in Chicago) but came within a hair’s breadth of losing to Hubert Humphrey.

    The night before the election, the TV networks trumpeted polls showing Humphrey with a narrow lead:

    [MORE]

    I have been reviewing old newspaper articles and TV reports on YouTube, trying (among other things) to determine if there is any precedent for a candidate’s suspending in-person campaigning during the week before the election.

    Nixon remained in seclusion in the days before his landslide victory in 1972, but aside from that, every major-party candidate (even ones who were shoe-ins, such as Reagan in 1984) has made numerous appearances in the final week. Biden’s decision to stay out of sight is unprecedented.

    In case anyone is interested, here are newscasts from the day before each presidential election, going back to 1972. (1968 is above.)

    1972:

    1976:

    1980:

    1984:

    1988:

    1992:

    1996:

    2000:

    2004:

    2008:

    2012:

    2016:

    • Replies: @anon
    @Stan Adams

    That's the great Uncle Walter? That's the guy everyone believed no matter what he said?

    wow.

    Is there an animatron of him out at Disneyland? Should be.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Stan Adams


    Nixon had a huge lead at the beginning of the ’68 campaign (after the Democrats’ disastrous convention in Chicago) but came within a hair’s breadth of losing to Hubert Humphrey.

     

    Many of those disgusted at the antics in Chicago expressed that disgust by voting for George Wallace. And not just in Dixie:

    George Wallace share of vote, 1968


    (From Beyond Red & Blue: Where the political earth moved, 1968)

    You can see when the ethnics finally captured the Northeast from the Yankees:


    Change in Republican vote %, 1948 to 1968

  23. At this late date, more votes are still being found to support amazingly innovative dastardly white supremacy!

    https://www.realclearscience.com/quick_and_clear_science/2020/10/26/europes_first_industrial_complex_shows_the_brilliance_of_ancient_engineers.html

    Reconstructing the hydraulics of the world’s first industrial complex, the second century CE Barbegal watermills, France
    https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-74900-5

    A house or car in your neighborhood may soon be a rather cool disturbing monument to the brilliance evils of white supremacy!

    https://interestingengineering.com/new-super-white-paint-can-cool-down-buildings-and-cars

  24. In a casual “don’t worry, we got this” tone, I told my (extremely Biden-supporting) co-workers that there was no way Trump would win because the party would make sure there were enough votes, like in Chicago and Miami (Suarez, 1997).

    They had no idea what I was talking about!

  25. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    My concern with waiting until Election Day to vote is that, at least in my state of Maryland, there will be drastically fewer polling places than usual. Today is the first day of early, in-person voting. I’m heading out in a few hours.

  26. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    My concern with waiting until Election Day to vote is that, at least in my state of Maryland, there will be drastically fewer polling places than usual. Today is the first day of early, in-person voting. I’m heading out in a few hours.

    • Replies: @Clyde
    @Paul Mendez


    My concern with waiting until Election Day to vote is that, at least in my state of Maryland, there will be drastically fewer polling places than usual. Today is the first day of early, in-person voting. I’m heading out in a few hours.
     
    No way on mail in ballots. We voted in person already via the ubiquitous early voting locations. I detest early voting, all a scam as in show up on first Tuesday in November or get lost.
    , @donut
    @Paul Mendez

    I voted early this AM at TSU campus we stood in line for about 90 min . Lots of Biden signs across the street but no Trump signs , when I mentioned it to my friend the young White girl ahead of us in line turned and said "what do you expect on a college campus" . I kind of got the impression from her tone that she disapproved .

  27. @TomSchmidt
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You can tell a Trump neighborhood in blue country by the lack of ANY Presidential signs. You can tell a Biden neighborhood by the presence of BLM signs, and by the near-universal masking of people out in public. No one here is going to incite the wrath of the people in power, the ones who control BLM and AntiFa.

    But on Election Day they'll mutter, under their breath "E pur si muove."

    Replies: @epebble, @John Milton’s Ghost

    near-universal masking of people out in public

    If that had happened nationwide, Trump would be winning by 400 EC votes. Now people are muttering Jimmy Carter. Mask was the stupidest hill to die on, especially if the Senate goes to Democrats.

    • Agree: Mike_from_SGV, Charon
    • Disagree: bomag
    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  28. https://nationalfile.com/michigan-election-workers-told-to-dispose-of-ballots-expel-poll-watchers/
    Using lockdown restrictions as an excuse to prevent poll watchers from watching polls, plus lying to voters about how their ballots are being handled.

  29. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    Early life
    White was born May 6, 1915, in Dorchester, Boston, the son of David White, a lawyer. He was raised Jewish. In his memoir In Search of History: A Personal Adventure, White describes helping form one of the early Zionist collegiate organizations during his time in college.[2] He was a student at Boston Latin School, from which he graduated in 1932; from there, he went on to Harvard University, from which he graduated with a B.A. in Chinese history as a student of John K. Fairbank, who went on to become America’s foremost China scholar. He wrote for The Harvard Crimson during his time at Harvard.[3]

  30. @Paul Mendez
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My concern with waiting until Election Day to vote is that, at least in my state of Maryland, there will be drastically fewer polling places than usual. Today is the first day of early, in-person voting. I’m heading out in a few hours.

    Replies: @Clyde, @donut

    My concern with waiting until Election Day to vote is that, at least in my state of Maryland, there will be drastically fewer polling places than usual. Today is the first day of early, in-person voting. I’m heading out in a few hours.

    No way on mail in ballots. We voted in person already via the ubiquitous early voting locations. I detest early voting, all a scam as in show up on first Tuesday in November or get lost.

  31. @Paul Mendez
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My concern with waiting until Election Day to vote is that, at least in my state of Maryland, there will be drastically fewer polling places than usual. Today is the first day of early, in-person voting. I’m heading out in a few hours.

    Replies: @Clyde, @donut

    I voted early this AM at TSU campus we stood in line for about 90 min . Lots of Biden signs across the street but no Trump signs , when I mentioned it to my friend the young White girl ahead of us in line turned and said “what do you expect on a college campus” . I kind of got the impression from her tone that she disapproved .

  32. @Achmed E. Newman
    Regarding your last point, I looked at the map of electoral votes. Kennedy or his people were wise picking a Southerner, as much as he turned out to be a highly destructive Socialist bastard later. If Texas had gone for Nixon, and he'd gotten the Carolinas and Georgia, Nixon would have won too, without Illinois. I guess Alabama and Mississippi would have gone for Byrd/Thurmond either way - that was 14 votes (+ 1 stray elector from Oklahoma).

    I and my wife will vote on election day, as she didn't vote early like she was going to, and I'll be around this time. More related to your post, the mail-in deal is so insidious for the reasons that go back to 1960 (and I guess, beyond). Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we've already seen, but there is much more time during which the D's can work it all out, after they've got the numbers.* It doesn't have to come down to the wire, as with Daley and the ticker-tape.

    BTW, the wife got gung-ho this time and is even putting one of my 2 alternating Trump signs up in the morning and down at night when I don't. I've had compliments from 5 people walking, jogging, and driving by. One guy pulled over, partially blocking one lane, and we talked for 45 minutes right there, agreeing on absolutely everything! It was 20 minutes with another guy, who was walking.

    "Why do we have all these Biden voters around here?" my wife asked, as it's probably 1 in 5 houses with those signs and almost nil for Trump. I told her that people voting for Trump were a) worried about vandalism, maybe more than just the sign, and b) some are just too cowardly to put up a Trump sign, based on not being called names behind their backs. A neighbor 2 doors down is a good example. She told me she appreciated the sign, out of the blue, yet there is no sign on her yard. That was good to hear anyway.

    Have some hope, people!


    .

    * All anyone has now, without opening ballots illegally, is knowing which mailed-in ballots are from registered R's and registered D's. That doesn't mean much, IMO, as who registers anymore? That's a real question I've got. Maybe it's on my voter card, but I'll have to dig that up, as you don't need it anymore - just the ID.

    Replies: @ic1000, @The Wild Geese Howard, @TomSchmidt, @theMann, @peterike, @Paul Mendez, @Paul Mendez, @Clyde, @Jus' Sayin'...

    I think the outcome of this election is as uncertain as the outcome of the last but maybe with just a bit more of an edge for Trump this time around. I was forced to watch five or ten minutes of an MSNBC “news” segment while visiting my sister this past Sunday. The disconnect from reality was even more startling than I imagined. These prog outlets may unwittingly be recreating the same sense of smug complacency in the dimocrat base that helped boost Trump to victory last time. A similar pre-election pattern in polling results is once again emerging. It’s interesting that Trump seems to have increased his support among Negroes to some degree.

    I am very concerned about the usual dimocrat voting fraud hijinx. These appear to have ramped up considerably this election cycle. If it weren’t for these I’d be as confident of a Trump victory this time as I was the last.

  33. @The Alarmist
    South Texas was notorious for “found” ballot boxes in those days. Robert Caro recounts in his biographies of Johnson how the trick was used to make Johnson a Senator.

    I recall a hysterical a Wolf Blitzer on Election night 2016 begging John King to find votes for Clinton on his big board. It’s a good thing that King wasn’t actually in a position to deliver.

    Fortunately, Illinois is so deep blue that it no longer matters. Texas is again a problem.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad

    South Texas was notorious for “found” ballot boxes in those days. Robert Caro recounts in his biographies of Johnson how the trick was used to make Johnson a Senator.

    I think of LBJ every time some media hack pronounces that “vote fraud” is simply not a thing.

    The Box 13 scandal was an event which occurred in Alice, Texas during the Senate election of 1948.[1] Lyndon B. Johnson was on the verge of losing the election to Coke Stevenson. Six days after polls had closed, 202 additional ballots were discovered in Precinct 13, which were in Johnson’s favor. Stevenson was about 854 votes ahead of Johnson during the run-off. Stevenson was still ahead by midday, but after the discovery of the additional ballots, 200 additional votes for Johnson were discovered, leading to his victory by 87 votes out of 1 million voters.[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Box_13_scandal

  34. There were some Southern states which had unpledged electoral votes which ended up going to segregationist candidate Harry Byrd. If Nixon had won Illinois, both he and Kennedy would have been in position to make deals for those electoral votes thus swing the election toward them. This was covered in Seymour Hersh’s “Dark Side of Camelot.”

  35. Later that evening, Kennedy told his friend Ben Bradlee of an early call from Daley…

    And Bradlee figured prominently, with CIA asset Bob Woodward, a few years later during the coup that brought Nixon down.

    Dick’s paranoia was well-founded.

    (Maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about. I hope I do this time, though, because I’ve used up my ignorant fool points for awhile.)

    • Troll: Corvinus
  36. He who counts last counts best.

    In Cook County an honest election is one in which dead people only vote once. Even the CBS series The Good Wife (a network that gave us Madam Secretary in order to help Hillary) showed a Democrat cheating at the polls.

  37. @Stan Adams
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nixon had a huge lead at the beginning of the '68 campaign (after the Democrats' disastrous convention in Chicago) but came within a hair's breadth of losing to Hubert Humphrey.

    The night before the election, the TV networks trumpeted polls showing Humphrey with a narrow lead:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KToSJUKoJUQ



    I have been reviewing old newspaper articles and TV reports on YouTube, trying (among other things) to determine if there is any precedent for a candidate's suspending in-person campaigning during the week before the election.

    Nixon remained in seclusion in the days before his landslide victory in 1972, but aside from that, every major-party candidate (even ones who were shoe-ins, such as Reagan in 1984) has made numerous appearances in the final week. Biden's decision to stay out of sight is unprecedented.

    In case anyone is interested, here are newscasts from the day before each presidential election, going back to 1972. (1968 is above.)

    1972:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvk05Ty0sDo

    1976:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv1zGnua6EQ

    1980:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2UMW03k8k

    1984:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxeE2t9329E

    1988:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89XwqyjWaFQ

    1992:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddOWZJvgHPs

    1996:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vduNPtiTv1Y

    2000:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll0-uR6aWoc

    2004:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px3Uz4DOrxg

    2008:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8OvUuBK48g

    2012:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWaEjpQdFbc

    2016:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqwlaOKJ_tQ

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

    That’s the great Uncle Walter? That’s the guy everyone believed no matter what he said?

    wow.

    Is there an animatron of him out at Disneyland? Should be.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @anon


    Is there an animatron of him out at Disneyland? Should be.
     
    Yes, in the same underground vault where they keep Walt's cryogenically-frozen corpse.
  38. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri, @Kratoklastes, @Mike_from_SGV, @Alden, @Bill Jones, @Hangnail Hans, @AnotherDad

    Just Wow! Tampax is literally doubling it’s market overnight, or over a short period (groan). This is marketing genius! Steve, why didn’t you think of something like this when you were in marketing? It’s bleedin’ brilliant, mate!

    OK, I have so many more jokes on this that I better save for a good blog post.

    Thank you so much, Polista. You don’t know how much this brightened my high-flow day over here.

    .

    I gotta go … feelin’ cramped … somebody cue up the Alice Cooper. I don’t’ know why I gotta do that every time. And, you people always give me a hard time for writing too many comments. What does it take to please you people?! I don’t know if I can keep commenting. Everything sucks. It’s always gonna suck …

    • Agree: Hangnail Hans
    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yer comments are good with me, Achie! Look up The Dark Side of Lyndon Johnson sometime. Telling.

    , @MEH 0910
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I gotta go … feelin’ cramped … somebody cue up the Alice Cooper.
     
    Only Women Bleed
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTx6S4kXbXc

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  39. ‘…I recall a hysterical a Wolf Blitzer on Election night 2016 begging John King to find votes for Clinton on his big board. It’s a good thing that King wasn’t actually in a position to deliver…’

    That’s what worries me. In 2016, the Democrats were so sure they had it that they weren’t prepared to ‘improve’ the results.

    I remember election night. When Trump pulled ahead in Pennsylvania, I was watching for some sudden flip at the end — ‘oh look: Clinton took Pennsylvania after all.’

    Only when all the counties were in did I relax.

    This time, the Democrats may be ready.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  40. Back in the 1990s one of the paleocons – maybe Clyde Wilson? – said Nixon’s refusal to challenge the election result and instead be the good sport pushover for the sake of unity and stability set the standard for conservative loserdom ever since. (Though it wouldn’t surprise me if they were losers before then).

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Matra

    One of Nixon's journalist friends, Earl Mazo, had urged Nixon to challenge the election after investigating. Nixon basically felt a challenge would certainly fail anyway.

    As mentioned above, Kennedy still wins in the Electoral College even if Illinois went to Nixon.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Matra


    Back in the 1990s one of the paleocons – maybe Clyde Wilson? – said Nixon’s refusal to challenge the election result and instead be the good sport pushover for the sake of unity and stability set the standard for conservative loserdom ever since.
     
    He certainly knew the true nature of Democrats, considering where he was from.

    Replies: @David In TN

  41. Is Jeet Heer really this stupid? Or is he simply engaging in Orwellian “protective stupidity”?

    I’d add that a lot of Borat’s “Kazakhstan” belongs to a particular tradition of bittersweet Jewish comedy about memories of old country that was unvarnishedly human, rough, & at times oppressive. Al Capp’s Lower Slobovia, Fiddler on the Roof, Seth Rogen’s Schlupsk

    This is right. Borat & his “Kazakhstan” are a complicated sophisticate/rube comedy. We the sophisticates in audience know that Borat is absurd stereotype & comedy is at rubes he interacts with who take him literally.

    Or maybe SBC likes making fun of his ethnic enemies…..

    • Replies: @Nico
    @syonredux

    He’s dumb as a general rule, but here he’s more elitist than anything else. In Kazakhstan the country-bumpkin majority doesn’t take kindly to SBC but their chattering classes love him, because they understand perfectly that Borat is a projection of real or supposed American perceptions of Kazakhstan. The films are not a parody of Kazakhstan; they’re not anti-Muslim: they ARE however resolutely anti-white and anti-American. The masses might not get the second degree but the cosmopolites do: the film was made for them. What the cosmopolitan classes DON’T get is the lives of ordinary people on the ground, nor are they so sophisticated as to be capable of applying the ‘Borat’ standard to themselves. The whole movie is a basic parody of what liberal yuppie Jews think of regular Americans: those accustomed to American media, for precisely the reason that it is run by triple parentheses, might not pick up on it, either.

    Anyhow, fuck SBC. A revolting twit on the outside and the inside.

    Replies: @prosa123

  42. @Anon
    The New York Times writes about the NYC Elections Board. It sounds like the California DMV.

    Inside Decades of Nepotism and Bungling at the N.Y.C. Elections Board
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/nyregion/nyc-voting-election-board.html

    Let's look at this presumably diverse board via the Times article.

    ... more than a dozen current and former employees who told The Times that the agency has a culture where ineptitude is common and accountability is rare. Some staffers read or watch Netflix at the office, the employees said. Others regularly fail to show up for work, with no fear of discipline. Several employees said some staffers punch in and then leave to go shopping ...
     
    Oh ...

    ... workers were smoking marijuana at the Brooklyn voting machine warehouse on an election night ...
     
    Medical? ...

    A core group of the political appointees are highly capable and keep the board running, but many others are unqualified, the employees said.
     
    So, a few competent employees babysitting layabouts who never get disciplined or fired ...

    It is difficult to find skilled workers because many jobs involve tedious work and require late hours.
     
    Sounds like the first five years at a NYC white shoe law firm.

    Meanwhile in California ...

    California DMV worker slept 3 hours a day at work for years, auditor’s report says
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/07/26/california-dmv-worker-slept-hours-day-work-years-auditors-report-says/

    And in D.C. ...

    Metro derailed by culture of complacence, incompetence, lack of diversity
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/26/metro-derailed-by-culture-of-complacence-incompete/

    "Lack of diversity" here means that all the employees are black. Welcome to the future.

    It is a culture in which a white male engineer near completion of a Ph.D. was passed over for a management position in favor of a black man who was barely literate, multiple staffers said.
     

    Replies: @Bugg, @David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey

    I worked as a poll worker in NYC for a few cycles when my business got slow; thankfully it picked up. My retired teacher mom still does.There are some very competent people of all parties working for BOE. But at the same time you have entrenched incompetents of both parties. And the latter are a problem. They tend to show up at polling sites and think it’s time to order everyone around , invariably when it’s busy. Bad enough the job of poll worker is tedious and boring, and the equipment is clunky if functional. To have a politically-connected hack who usually smells of booze start acting like Colonel Klink on a power trip, no thanks. Chases away well-meaning people who take the job.

    The experience made me think we would be better off offering voting over the internet. Because this system could not be worse. NY poll workers can challenge voters by doing a signature comparison. But no poll worker gets a second of any such training. By law, NY state mandates no photo ID is required for voting. NY state offers a free photo ID through DMV, but somehow requiring people to meet that minimal requirement is RAYCESS!

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Bugg


    By law, NY state mandates no photo ID is required for voting. NY state offers a free photo ID through DMV, but somehow requiring people to meet that minimal requirement is RAYCESS!
     
    I read an article a couple of years ago about citizens's problems with the voter ID law in their state. This was in a college town in the midwest, very liberal.

    To his great credit the journalist reported out the story by interviewing three "victims" of the law (I'm not sure how he found them ... complaints from Twitter?).

    The three were two black women and a white male grad student. One of the black women had diabetes or something that made it hard for her to go to the DMV ... but not to the polling station, apparently. So she had no driver's licence. The second woman was ditzy, but not enough to not remember to vote. She showed her bus pass, which didn't count.

    In both cases they were allowed to vote, but their ballots were held while they got ID. As long as they verified theemselves in some way within two weeks, their ballots would be counted (assuming the total number of uncounted ballots by that point could change the election results). So nobody is disenfranchised by the law.

    By the way, the law allowed several kinds of ID to be used, not just drivers licenses, maybe eight or ten different IDs. One was a student ID. This was where the grad student came in. He sort of came off like an activist who was trying to come up with some way to criticise the law. At any rate, his story was that he was an out-of-state student, from state A studying at the local state B university. He tried to vote with his student ID, but student ID must be used within the school term, and it was summer. His drivers license was out of state. So he actually could not vote.

    This is not a bug. It's a feature. You cannot vote in two states. He had IDs that potentially would have allowed him to vote in two places. You are supposed to change your drivers license when your domicile (as legally defined) changes. He didn't. Nevertheless, had school been in term, his school ID would have allowed him to vote in state B. This is a very loose system, since his drivers license still allowed him to vote in state A. So he has nothing to complain about. He did not have the correct drivers license for his claimed state B domicile, and if he considered state A his domicile he could have voted by absentee ballot, even if it really wasn't his domicile.

    This video is probably edited to make voter ID laws look maximally stupid, but it contrasts white progressives worrying about helpless black people, while black people are offened that a white person would think they aren't together enough to get a drivers licenses, and they don't know of any black person who doesn't have one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Bugg

  43. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri, @Kratoklastes, @Mike_from_SGV, @Alden, @Bill Jones, @Hangnail Hans, @AnotherDad

    You mean Alice Cooper lied to me? C’mon, man! Next, you’ll be telling me Iggy doesn’t want to be my dog anymore.

  44. @Anon
    The New York Times writes about the NYC Elections Board. It sounds like the California DMV.

    Inside Decades of Nepotism and Bungling at the N.Y.C. Elections Board
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/26/nyregion/nyc-voting-election-board.html

    Let's look at this presumably diverse board via the Times article.

    ... more than a dozen current and former employees who told The Times that the agency has a culture where ineptitude is common and accountability is rare. Some staffers read or watch Netflix at the office, the employees said. Others regularly fail to show up for work, with no fear of discipline. Several employees said some staffers punch in and then leave to go shopping ...
     
    Oh ...

    ... workers were smoking marijuana at the Brooklyn voting machine warehouse on an election night ...
     
    Medical? ...

    A core group of the political appointees are highly capable and keep the board running, but many others are unqualified, the employees said.
     
    So, a few competent employees babysitting layabouts who never get disciplined or fired ...

    It is difficult to find skilled workers because many jobs involve tedious work and require late hours.
     
    Sounds like the first five years at a NYC white shoe law firm.

    Meanwhile in California ...

    California DMV worker slept 3 hours a day at work for years, auditor’s report says
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2018/07/26/california-dmv-worker-slept-hours-day-work-years-auditors-report-says/

    And in D.C. ...

    Metro derailed by culture of complacence, incompetence, lack of diversity
    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/26/metro-derailed-by-culture-of-complacence-incompete/

    "Lack of diversity" here means that all the employees are black. Welcome to the future.

    It is a culture in which a white male engineer near completion of a Ph.D. was passed over for a management position in favor of a black man who was barely literate, multiple staffers said.
     

    Replies: @Bugg, @David 'The Diversity Mastermind' Lammey

    Seems like TBBT (surprisingly RP for a mainstream show) where a dim ghetto harridan who looks like Michelle Obama determines the careers of smart, well-informed physicists from the advanced races. Normally they’re never that realistic, wonder how it passed msm censors?

  45. Even in the most corrupt states of the Union, one cannot steal more than one or two percent of the vote

    Number of states in which 2016’s Trump victory was by less than two percent: 6

    Number of electoral votes represented by those states: 89

    Portion of 270 electoral vote goal represented by sub-2% margin states: 33%

    Portion of Trump’s 2016 electoral vote victory margin is represented by those states: 262%

    Also, I see no reason to suppose that in this mail-in chaos, extended deadline, opaque cyber-balloted election there is any reason to suppose that the ceiling on fraud is two percent.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    In other words, more than two-and-a-half times Trump's 2016 victory margin is in play due to fraud, by Theodore White's quaint 1978 definition of fraud. And the Dems had four years to plan how to do it.

    Has ever so much hung in such a narrow balance?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri

    Yes, excellent analysis, AM.

    The Pennsylvania SC ruling is a killer. Without PA, it's hard to see Trump winning, and that ruling likely seals the deal for Biden. Is there any way three days' worth of vote-count-massaging in that state won't come out in favor of the Dems?

    People here in HK are genuinely bewildered by US voting protocols. They can't process the reality, since here, as in most countries, there's no such thing as early voting, mail-in voting, ID-free voting, etc. You go to the polls on election day, you sign in with a photo ID, and you vote manually (no machines whatsoever) on ballots that are essentially impossible to miscount (you use a chop to make a huge check mark next to the candidate you're voting for on a large-print paper ballot form). Results come out the next morning. I can't ever recall even a recount being needed.

    Conducting clean elections is definitely possible, but it's obviously not something that TPPB in the USA want anymore, if they ever did.

    Replies: @Muggles

  46. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri, @Kratoklastes, @Mike_from_SGV, @Alden, @Bill Jones, @Hangnail Hans, @AnotherDad

    Take THAT ciswomen bigots! Tampax lays the beatdown on TERF Supremacism!

    Wow, just Wow. I can’t even.

  47. @I, Libertine
    @LondonBob

    Johnson earned the nickname "Landslide Lyndon" by winning his first Senatorial race by 87 votes. His adversary, outgoing Governor Coke Stevenson, appeared to have the 1948 Democratic primary won by the narrowest of margins. In those days, victory in a Democrat primary in Texas was tantamount to election. But 200 additional votes from one district arrived at the end of the vote-counting, and put Johnson over the top. Funny thing was - all 200 voters used the same pen to sign in at the polling place, and they showed up in alphabetical order. No mail-in ballots back then.

    Of course, the ensuing dispute went all the the the U.S. Supreme Court, and resulted in ruling that federal courts can't interfere with state party primary elections, handing LBJ the Senate seat.

    Who knows how those 200 "votes" changed history? LBJ never replaces JFK as president without them, for a variety of obvious reasons. The last in that long chain of events: Kennedy doesn't visit LBJ's home state in November 1963, and doesn't get his head blown off there - even if you believe . . . you know what. Is the Viet Nam War as protracted, costly and divisive? Do liberals push the Great Society through Congress without his masterful control of the levers of power? What about that 1965 immigration reform?

    I love alternate history.

    Replies: @Excal, @Paul Rise

    It’s pleasant to speculate on a world without him, but LBJ was going to make it to the top one way or another. If he had lost that case, he undoubtedly some other foothold ready to go. He had no conscience to slow his ascent.

    An essential part of the problem was the puddle of slime which produced that vile man. The corruption in Texas politics in those days was every bit as bad as anything in Illinois.

    Incidentally, when JFK was murdered, it was a very common opinion in Texas that LBJ had arranged it.

  48. @Almost Missouri


    Even in the most corrupt states of the Union, one cannot steal more than one or two percent of the vote
     

     
    Number of states in which 2016's Trump victory was by less than two percent: 6

    Number of electoral votes represented by those states: 89

    Portion of 270 electoral vote goal represented by sub-2% margin states: 33%

    Portion of Trump's 2016 electoral vote victory margin is represented by those states: 262%

    Also, I see no reason to suppose that in this mail-in chaos, extended deadline, opaque cyber-balloted election there is any reason to suppose that the ceiling on fraud is two percent.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @The Last Real Calvinist

    In other words, more than two-and-a-half times Trump’s 2016 victory margin is in play due to fraud, by Theodore White’s quaint 1978 definition of fraud. And the Dems had four years to plan how to do it.

    Has ever so much hung in such a narrow balance?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Almost Missouri


    Has ever so much hung in such a narrow balance?

     

    Has ever so much hung, and have ever so many deserved to be hanged?
  49. Note: it’s often recounted that Illinois determined the 1960 election. But, in truth, Nixon would have had to carry both of the states that were late in getting their votes in — Illinois and Texas — to win 270 Electoral Votes.

    It was only 269 to win in 1960. There were only 537 electors before the 23rd Amendment. (435 for the House from the 1950 censu,s plus two for the new states, and 100 for senators; the House went back down to 435 in the next apportionment. 1959-63 was Peak House.) 268 and 534 had Hawaii’s not been certified.

    Nixon would have needed 50 or 49 to win outright. Let’s give him everything disputable but Texas: Illinois’s 27, Mississippi’s eight and Alabama’s six (of 11 total) unpledged, and Oklahoma’s turncoat Nixon elector. That’s 42, and 45 if you throw in Hawaii’s. (That state sent two slates between which Congress had to decide. 1876 all over again.) He’d have needed Hawaii’s and all of Alabama’s to win outright without Texas, but it was possible.

    On the other hand, merely taking 35 votes from Kennedy (35 without Hawaii’s participating) would have thrown it into the House. Nixon had won 26 states, and had the state delegations gone by their popular votes, Nixon would have been elected. Democrats had a clear majority of delegations in both the departing and incoming Houses, and they likely would have gone with Kennedy. (Each state would have had a single vote; states divided equally would not have had their vote counted.)

    Note: it’s often recounted that Illinois determined the 1960 election.

    It’s almost always recounted that Kennedy had won the “popular vote”. A few exceptions, such as Neal Peirce and James Michener (I think) report the truth: Kennedy only wins if you give him all of Alabama’s popular votes. But that state had only unpledged electors’ names on the ballot. It is impossible to determine whom the voters chose for President. Six of the eleven voted for Harry Byrd, the rest for Kennedy. The best tactic is to divide the votes by a 6-5 split. Nixon comes out on top.

    (Sometimes they count all of Alabama’s votes for Kennedy and some or all for Byrd. That’s double-counting. All of Mississippi’s electors voted for Byrd, so that state is easy.)

    By the way, what would 219 lengthy telegrams have cost in 1962? Did Western Union have a bulk discount? Henry Irwin tried to get all of Nixon’s electors to vote for Byrd, which, with enough Southern Democrats defecting, would have made Harry President. He didn’t persuade a single one.

    Irwin also managed to be the first male to be awarded alimony in New York, a state with very strict and traditional marital laws– no-fault didn’t arrive until 2010.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_D._Irwin

  50. @Almost Missouri
    @Almost Missouri

    In other words, more than two-and-a-half times Trump's 2016 victory margin is in play due to fraud, by Theodore White's quaint 1978 definition of fraud. And the Dems had four years to plan how to do it.

    Has ever so much hung in such a narrow balance?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Has ever so much hung in such a narrow balance?

    Has ever so much hung, and have ever so many deserved to be hanged?

  51. @theMann
    Countries as corrupt as India and Mexico can run relatively clean elections, but the USA can't, and never has.


    This message approve by President Tilden.

    Replies: @Corn, @epebble

    Mexico actually gives registered voters Registered Voter ID cards with their photo on it. Apparently Mexico didn’t get the memo from the Dems that’s racist.

  52. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Polistra

    Just Wow! Tampax is literally doubling it's market overnight, or over a short period (groan). This is marketing genius! Steve, why didn't you think of something like this when you were in marketing? It's bleedin' brilliant, mate!

    OK, I have so many more jokes on this that I better save for a good blog post.

    Thank you so much, Polista. You don't know how much this brightened my high-flow day over here.

    .

    I gotta go ... feelin' cramped ... somebody cue up the Alice Cooper. I don't' know why I gotta do that every time. And, you people always give me a hard time for writing too many comments. What does it take to please you people?! I don't know if I can keep commenting. Everything sucks. It's always gonna suck ...

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @MEH 0910

    Yer comments are good with me, Achie! Look up The Dark Side of Lyndon Johnson sometime. Telling.

  53. @Achmed E. Newman
    Mr. White was dismayed at first. No bias there, huh? I suppose these political reports have been biased one way or another since Day 1, but a difference is that nowadays, they all seem to follow the same Establishment narrative. Our Establishment is hard left now, though.

    I recently read Pat Buchanan's book The Greatest Comeback about Nixon's 1968 primary and general election campaign. (See the Peak Stupidity review here.) One thing that struck me is how closely these politicians worked with newspapermen, as in, the press of the time. Mr. Buchanan had been one, as he was hired for the Nixon campaign directly from his job at a newspaper in St. Louis.

    The difference back then was that there were plenty of conservative reporters and newspaper owners. Mr. Nixon or his people would work closely with the guys that were favorable to Nixon, even sending their own versions of editorials or editing things with these newspapermen. Actually, per the book, Nixon was not so much a conservative (Reagan was too far right for him), as just a guy who wanted to get enough votes to win the election period. (Mr. Buchanan does not come out and say that in the book, as he is still loyal to Nixon, but it's the theme of the whole thing.)

    Nixon had been called a "loser" since losing both the 1960 Presidential election and the 1962 California Governorship election. That was his main concern, being a winner. He really could have gone a good bit this way or a good bit that way on the Vietnam war, civil rites, and the stand on law & order, as it was all about simply getting enough votes to be a winner.

    Then there was TV. Nixon was still recovering from an illness and had not gotten much sleep before that famous 1960 debate on TV, in which he is said to have won per radio listeners but lost per TV watchers.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Stan Adams, @David In TN, @Kronos, @Anonymous

    In 1968 most major newspapers would endorse the Republican candidate (Nixon included) for President. Most reporters by a healthy margin in 1968 were liberals, maybe a few conservatives.

    JFK’s press secretary, Pierre Salinger, in his mid-60’s book, wrote something like: “The newspaper owners were for Nixon but most reporters were for Senator Kennedy.”

    • Replies: @Corn
    @David In TN


    JFK’s press secretary, Pierre Salinger, in his mid-60’s book, wrote something like: “The newspaper owners were for Nixon but most reporters were for Senator Kennedy.”
     
    Going forward a few years to 1968 George Wallace supposedly told a group of newspaper owners, “You and your editors will vote for Nixon, your reporters will vote for Humphrey, but your printers and truckdrivers will vote for me.”
  54. @Matra
    Back in the 1990s one of the paleocons - maybe Clyde Wilson? - said Nixon's refusal to challenge the election result and instead be the good sport pushover for the sake of unity and stability set the standard for conservative loserdom ever since. (Though it wouldn't surprise me if they were losers before then).

    Replies: @David In TN, @Reg Cæsar

    One of Nixon’s journalist friends, Earl Mazo, had urged Nixon to challenge the election after investigating. Nixon basically felt a challenge would certainly fail anyway.

    As mentioned above, Kennedy still wins in the Electoral College even if Illinois went to Nixon.

    • Thanks: Matra
  55. And remember eeyores, Trump only “replaced” some old border wall which is NOTHING LIKE building a new wall. Right? Watch the video in the first response to the tweet.

    • Thanks: Manfred Arcane
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @peterike

    From this eyeore*, you have my apologies for ragging on this replacement fence. Not bad, and I hope they have the posts, cameras, and the manpower to follow through with this. Thanks, Peter.

    .

    * Thank you for remembering Jim Hanson's term!

  56. Those reporter’s are all grown up now, in the pockets of the Deep State. They write what they’re told like little monkeys. That, or no job.

  57. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri, @Kratoklastes, @Mike_from_SGV, @Alden, @Bill Jones, @Hangnail Hans, @AnotherDad

    Only in America.

  58. If people beneath the Talented Twentieth weren’t fucking morons who are incapable of learning, the anticipated poll shenanigans would be a salutary lesson that the system is a sham (and a scam) and the masses would lose faith in the system.

    Sadly, the vast majority of the mouth-breathers will never be the slightest bit aware of what the fuck is going on, and so will be placated by tissue-thin tales of how the US system is the best in human history (after all, they believe the same preposterous bullshit about the US military – which has been handed its hat by insurgencies in every war it’s fought since Korea).

    They don’t deserve what happens to them – in the same way that a cow who’s never done any harm to anyone, doesn’t deserve the day that they find themselves confronted by a man with a bolt-gun.

    Still, it’s hard to feel the slightest sympathy, considering that they’re supposed to be ‘sapiens‘ (the American bottom 95%, not the cows).

  59. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s initially easy to call it for Trump, since the Democratic Party is in full meltdown, with no coherent leadership. When does the left go too far? When it costs them a presidential election.

    Voter cheating has been claimed to not be as an important a factor as it might seem. We have double (!) the population as we did in Kennedy’s day. Might be harder to organize meaningful cheating.

    As a new counter-balance, black approval ratings have reached an historic high for the Republican Party. It’s been said if Trump could secure 14 % of new black voters, his win is in the bag.

    And then the internet super-charges everything.

    Working with what I know to be the basics, if you consistently do more than is reasonably expected of you, you tend to win over competitors who don’t. Sticking by that, with Trump doing 4-5 rallies a DAY… Trump’s in the bag.

    Plus, while Biden is currently fast asleep in his cryogenic chamber, Kamala Harris is campaigning for him, and I’m afraid she is batshit crazy. The woman sleeps hanging upside down.

    Suggestion for another controversial slogan for Team Trump:

    “In Southern California, if Kamala hasn’t put you in jail, YOU ain’t black!”

  60. Even in the most corrupt states of the Union, one cannot steal more than one or two percent of the vote…

    I doubt that this is still true.

  61. @Guy De Champlagne
    An interesting argument in favor of the electoral college is that it removes the incentive to ballot stuff in the deep red and deep blue states where extensive single party control would make it the biggest problem. With the electoral college it's only a big problem in the highly democratic and republican areas within swing states, which would to some extent cancel each other out since a swing state sorta needs to have one if it has the other.

    So everyone here thinks the 2020 ballot counting is going to be a weeks long shit show?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Paul Jolliffe, @anon, @Travis

    Agree wholeheartedly with your point concerning the Electoral College.

  62. @Guy De Champlagne
    An interesting argument in favor of the electoral college is that it removes the incentive to ballot stuff in the deep red and deep blue states where extensive single party control would make it the biggest problem. With the electoral college it's only a big problem in the highly democratic and republican areas within swing states, which would to some extent cancel each other out since a swing state sorta needs to have one if it has the other.

    So everyone here thinks the 2020 ballot counting is going to be a weeks long shit show?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Paul Jolliffe, @anon, @Travis

    Yes, I think the ballot counting will be a weeks long shit show.

    A positive though: Hillary Clinton announced that a Trump victory would “cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    You know, I’d almost pay to watch her get “cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    A Pay-per-View event opportunity, maybe?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfla.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-thought-of-trump-winning-again-makes-me-literally-sick-to-my-stomach/amp/

    • Replies: @anon
    @Paul Jolliffe

    A positive though: Hillary Clinton announced that a Trump victory would “cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    "Cognitive Dissonance of a Grave Degree" might be a good name for a New Wave retro band.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Paul Jolliffe


    A positive though: Hillary Clinton announced that a Trump victory would “cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    You know, I’d almost pay to watch her get “cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    A Pay-per-View event opportunity, maybe?
     
    How do you insert an accent grave onto a degree symbol? Is there Unicode for that?


    Anyway, don't miss Tokata Iron Eyes, coming up in the next hour. With her popular friends Gloria Steinem, Jodi Kantor, Natalie Portman, Linda Sarsour, and Tina Tchen, who could pass for one of Tokatas tribesmen.



    NOT DONE: Women Remaking America
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  63. @syonredux
    Is Jeet Heer really this stupid? Or is he simply engaging in Orwellian "protective stupidity"?

    I'd add that a lot of Borat's "Kazakhstan" belongs to a particular tradition of bittersweet Jewish comedy about memories of old country that was unvarnishedly human, rough, & at times oppressive. Al Capp's Lower Slobovia, Fiddler on the Roof, Seth Rogen's Schlupsk
     

    This is right. Borat & his "Kazakhstan" are a complicated sophisticate/rube comedy. We the sophisticates in audience know that Borat is absurd stereotype & comedy is at rubes he interacts with who take him literally.

     

    Or maybe SBC likes making fun of his ethnic enemies.....


    https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1320753895774187520

    https://twitter.com/HeerJeet/status/1320752999157747713

    Replies: @Nico

    He’s dumb as a general rule, but here he’s more elitist than anything else. In Kazakhstan the country-bumpkin majority doesn’t take kindly to SBC but their chattering classes love him, because they understand perfectly that Borat is a projection of real or supposed American perceptions of Kazakhstan. The films are not a parody of Kazakhstan; they’re not anti-Muslim: they ARE however resolutely anti-white and anti-American. The masses might not get the second degree but the cosmopolites do: the film was made for them. What the cosmopolitan classes DON’T get is the lives of ordinary people on the ground, nor are they so sophisticated as to be capable of applying the ‘Borat’ standard to themselves. The whole movie is a basic parody of what liberal yuppie Jews think of regular Americans: those accustomed to American media, for precisely the reason that it is run by triple parentheses, might not pick up on it, either.

    Anyhow, fuck SBC. A revolting twit on the outside and the inside.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Nico

    SBC originally intended Borat to be Albanian, but decided that would be too risky because it might offend Albanian gangbangers in London.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  64. Anonymous[212] • Disclaimer says:

    Biden. Will. Not. Win.

    It’s Kerry 04 Dole 96 Mondale 84 all over again.

    YOU CAN’T BEAT AN INCUMBENT POTUS WITH A FREAKING SENATOR.

    Hasn’t happened since 1888. And Sen Benjamin Harrison won a 3-way race.

    The only chance Biden ever had of winning the presidency was running against another senator.

    Biden is fading in the homestretch. He will limp over the finish and lose all of the late decider votes — just like the other old failures that come out of the senate to “give it on last try” to get elected prez…

    Watch the delusional Biden lose MN NM NH etc. That’s in addition to all of the core battlegrounds.

    He was always a dishonest boob politician and now he’s going down hard for his final embarrassment.

    “Sad!”

    Btw I’m not a Trump fan.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Anonymous


    YOU CAN’T BEAT AN INCUMBENT POTUS WITH A FREAKING SENATOR.
     
    Kerry did come close but you're basically right and it brings up my pet point -- being a US Senator is NOT any kind of qualification to be president. Aside from the fund-raising, grifting and insider front-running, all they do is talk, and the body was designed precisely with a bias against action. A mayor, governor or a businessman has actually run something, made a payroll, met a budget. Elect a senator and you get Obama.

    Eight years experience as Vice President might be useful -- say a functional intellect such as Pence noting what Trump did well and what he screwed up -- but in Biden's case I doubt it.

  65. @AndrewR
    Democracy is gay beyond belief.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @tyrone, @JohnnyWalker123

    Democracy is gay beyond belief.

    Mencken would agree. Good and hard!

    • Agree: Mike Zwick
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar

    Mencken believed a lot of silly things. For example, there was his German hatred of Anglo-Saxons:


    That this inferiority is real must be obvious to any impartial observer.

    Whenever the Anglo-Saxon, whether of the English or of the American variety, comes into sharp conflict with men of other stocks, he tends to be worsted, or, at best, to be forced back upon extraneous and irrelevant aids to assist him in the struggle.
     
    -THE ANGLO-SAXON, Mencken, 1933

    Replies: @Alden

  66. @Guy De Champlagne
    An interesting argument in favor of the electoral college is that it removes the incentive to ballot stuff in the deep red and deep blue states where extensive single party control would make it the biggest problem. With the electoral college it's only a big problem in the highly democratic and republican areas within swing states, which would to some extent cancel each other out since a swing state sorta needs to have one if it has the other.

    So everyone here thinks the 2020 ballot counting is going to be a weeks long shit show?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Paul Jolliffe, @anon, @Travis

    An interesting argument in favor of the electoral college

    Is found in Federalist #68

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._68

    http://electoralcollegehistory.com/electoral/federalist68.asp

    There aren’t any “issues”or “questions” the typical trolling shill can raise that have not already been answered.

    • Replies: @Guy De Champlagne
    @anon

    I just read federalist paper #68 to spite you and I am happy to report that you are wrong. Unless you interpret Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption broadly enough to mean what I said.

  67. If Mencken’s (above) is the best quote about democracy in theory, Uncle Joe’s is the best about democracy in practice.

    However, Namibia FactCheck doubts he’s the one who said it, and if you can’t believe Namibia FactCheck, whom can you believe?

    No, Stalin didn’t make statement about voting

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://quotesyoung.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/09/benjamin-franklin-quote-on-democracy-on-what-to-have-for-lunch-liberty-is-a-well-armed-lamb-contesting.jpg

  68. @TomSchmidt
    @Achmed E. Newman

    You can tell a Trump neighborhood in blue country by the lack of ANY Presidential signs. You can tell a Biden neighborhood by the presence of BLM signs, and by the near-universal masking of people out in public. No one here is going to incite the wrath of the people in power, the ones who control BLM and AntiFa.

    But on Election Day they'll mutter, under their breath "E pur si muove."

    Replies: @epebble, @John Milton’s Ghost

    I’m in a deep red state, but my precinct, near the local university, is slightly blue, having just edged for Hillary by a handful of votes. Until recently the only presidential signs were for Biden, a dozen to nothing. A handful of homes had down ticket signs for Republican candidates such as state legislators. In the last week a half dozen Trump signs have appeared. Lots of variables at play but it’s pretty clear many places that Trump supporters are less willing to risk their property for the yard sign. Don’t know if that translates to polls, as some speculate

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @John Milton’s Ghost


    Until recently the only presidential signs were for Biden, a dozen to nothing.
     
    A college town I visit often has a surprising number of Trump signs. Not quite as many as Biden ones, but a good response to them. (They are thicker in the Wakanda vicinity, interestingly.) This may be a town/gown thing. I grew up in a similar place, as a townie.

    There is a significant minority of Biden signs in the surrounding countryside as well. (Who kn0ws, they may be commuting profs or librarians.) It's not as politically segregated as major urban areas, and disagreement comes without animosity. Their county has gone with the winner in a long string of elections.

    Some punk went around town with a can of orange spray paint defacing Trump signs. Moron-- that just makes them more visible!

    On our recent trip west, we saw few presidential signs, but many for local office. Perhaps because you have to make a donation to get one, and the presidential race is a done deal in those states. Why bother?
  69. On a related (and entirely trivial note, as it had no actual impact on the outcome of the 1968 Presidential election), I’ve always been skeptical of history’s claim that Vice-President Hubert Humphrey carried Texas that year. LBJ seems to have been the most corrupt President in U.S. history, so I feel like he may have managed to arrange that outcome for his loyal Veep.

    On the other hand, Wallace got 19 percent of the vote in Texas that year, and so it’s quite possible no shenanigans were needed to get the Hump over the, uh, hump.

  70. @Achmed E. Newman
    Mr. White was dismayed at first. No bias there, huh? I suppose these political reports have been biased one way or another since Day 1, but a difference is that nowadays, they all seem to follow the same Establishment narrative. Our Establishment is hard left now, though.

    I recently read Pat Buchanan's book The Greatest Comeback about Nixon's 1968 primary and general election campaign. (See the Peak Stupidity review here.) One thing that struck me is how closely these politicians worked with newspapermen, as in, the press of the time. Mr. Buchanan had been one, as he was hired for the Nixon campaign directly from his job at a newspaper in St. Louis.

    The difference back then was that there were plenty of conservative reporters and newspaper owners. Mr. Nixon or his people would work closely with the guys that were favorable to Nixon, even sending their own versions of editorials or editing things with these newspapermen. Actually, per the book, Nixon was not so much a conservative (Reagan was too far right for him), as just a guy who wanted to get enough votes to win the election period. (Mr. Buchanan does not come out and say that in the book, as he is still loyal to Nixon, but it's the theme of the whole thing.)

    Nixon had been called a "loser" since losing both the 1960 Presidential election and the 1962 California Governorship election. That was his main concern, being a winner. He really could have gone a good bit this way or a good bit that way on the Vietnam war, civil rites, and the stand on law & order, as it was all about simply getting enough votes to be a winner.

    Then there was TV. Nixon was still recovering from an illness and had not gotten much sleep before that famous 1960 debate on TV, in which he is said to have won per radio listeners but lost per TV watchers.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Stan Adams, @David In TN, @Kronos, @Anonymous

    Nice choice!

  71. Anonymous[655] • Disclaimer says:

    With more fires hitting California, Rubio’s Mexican food going bankrupt, along with Governor Newsom announcing his crazy ‘Wear a mask between bites of turkey’

    Isn’t obvious that the Democrats are trying to run the poor/lower middle class/minorities out of their states?

    We’re looking at this all wrong…

    Killing minorities in NYC via nursing homes…feature not a bug

    Harassing minorities in Los Angeles for having large family get togethers….feature not a bug

    Killing all the restaurants (and other businesses) that serve the lower and middle classes…hispanic and otherwise—feature not a bug

    Can anyone detail the economic cost on the hispanic population in L.A.? Say what you will about illegal immigration, but Hispanics first got screwed with NAFTA, and now Democrat Newsom.

    They can blame Trump and get people to leave the state. Trump should call up some hispanic community leaders (real ones) and get the 411 on what is happening to people in California.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Hispanics have been infected with coronavirus at about twice the rate of blacks in California.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    , @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    I would totally agree that the Democrats hate class mobility, and working, lower middle, and probably middle class whites, and actively make their lives harder, possibly with a view to stochastic gerrymandering. Could such efforts work on minorities? Don't minorities suffer in lieu of moving? It takes money and distant job prospects to move. Minorities expect life to be hard. Furthermore, as is demonstrated in disproportionate infection and numerous block parties, these efforts cannot have affected them because they don't follow any rules.

  72. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri, @Kratoklastes, @Mike_from_SGV, @Alden, @Bill Jones, @Hangnail Hans, @AnotherDad

    This is a joke, right?

  73. @Stan Adams
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Nixon had a huge lead at the beginning of the '68 campaign (after the Democrats' disastrous convention in Chicago) but came within a hair's breadth of losing to Hubert Humphrey.

    The night before the election, the TV networks trumpeted polls showing Humphrey with a narrow lead:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KToSJUKoJUQ



    I have been reviewing old newspaper articles and TV reports on YouTube, trying (among other things) to determine if there is any precedent for a candidate's suspending in-person campaigning during the week before the election.

    Nixon remained in seclusion in the days before his landslide victory in 1972, but aside from that, every major-party candidate (even ones who were shoe-ins, such as Reagan in 1984) has made numerous appearances in the final week. Biden's decision to stay out of sight is unprecedented.

    In case anyone is interested, here are newscasts from the day before each presidential election, going back to 1972. (1968 is above.)

    1972:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xvk05Ty0sDo

    1976:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vv1zGnua6EQ

    1980:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2UMW03k8k

    1984:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxeE2t9329E

    1988:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89XwqyjWaFQ

    1992:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddOWZJvgHPs

    1996:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vduNPtiTv1Y

    2000:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll0-uR6aWoc

    2004:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px3Uz4DOrxg

    2008:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8OvUuBK48g

    2012:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWaEjpQdFbc

    2016:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqwlaOKJ_tQ

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

    Nixon had a huge lead at the beginning of the ’68 campaign (after the Democrats’ disastrous convention in Chicago) but came within a hair’s breadth of losing to Hubert Humphrey.

    Many of those disgusted at the antics in Chicago expressed that disgust by voting for George Wallace. And not just in Dixie:

    George Wallace share of vote, 1968

    (From Beyond Red & Blue: Where the political earth moved, 1968)

    You can see when the ethnics finally captured the Northeast from the Yankees:

    Change in Republican vote %, 1948 to 1968

  74. @Reg Cæsar
    @AndrewR


    Democracy is gay beyond belief.

     

    Mencken would agree. Good and hard!



    https://external-preview.redd.it/3sFH4aSD_ybRowyS9VmwcIpyWZo9BXkkjMRpK1ZKKBA.jpg?auto=webp&s=47a8ebe0296ce521a13883863d485f672315cc56

    Replies: @syonredux

    Mencken believed a lot of silly things. For example, there was his German hatred of Anglo-Saxons:

    That this inferiority is real must be obvious to any impartial observer.

    Whenever the Anglo-Saxon, whether of the English or of the American variety, comes into sharp conflict with men of other stocks, he tends to be worsted, or, at best, to be forced back upon extraneous and irrelevant aids to assist him in the struggle.

    -THE ANGLO-SAXON, Mencken, 1933

    • Replies: @Alden
    @syonredux

    I guess Mencken didn’t know that both the Angles and Saxons were originally from Germany.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

  75. @AndrewR
    Democracy is gay beyond belief.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @tyrone, @JohnnyWalker123

  76. Somebody stop Florida Man, before he does it again:

    Police: Florida man stole bulldozer, ran down Biden signs

    The man’s name is Blight. For real.

    Oh, and it’s a backhoe, not a bulldozer. Illiterate “journalists”.

    Important question: is he a Trumpster, or a Bernie Bro?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    This is what (possibly inebriated) Florida men are for. I love it, Reg! And that's a front end loader, man.

    Replies: @FPD72, @Bill Jones

  77. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri, @Kratoklastes, @Mike_from_SGV, @Alden, @Bill Jones, @Hangnail Hans, @AnotherDad

    I saw that. Proctor&Gamble is one of the wealthiest corporations in the world. Can’t claim they’re worried about pressure from the tyranny lobbyists . Therefore, Proctor&Gamble is pro trannies.

    Liberalism is a mental illness

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    @Alden

    P&G own Gillette right? Who did the commercials about how trannies need to shave, and white guys need black guys to keep them in line and teach them how to behave around white women. Oh yeah.

  78. @syonredux
    @Reg Cæsar

    Mencken believed a lot of silly things. For example, there was his German hatred of Anglo-Saxons:


    That this inferiority is real must be obvious to any impartial observer.

    Whenever the Anglo-Saxon, whether of the English or of the American variety, comes into sharp conflict with men of other stocks, he tends to be worsted, or, at best, to be forced back upon extraneous and irrelevant aids to assist him in the struggle.
     
    -THE ANGLO-SAXON, Mencken, 1933

    Replies: @Alden

    I guess Mencken didn’t know that both the Angles and Saxons were originally from Germany.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Alden

    Technically from what is now Denmark, IIRC, but the main point is that they migrated to the Isle and mixed with folk who truly valued liberty. At a very high cost. Even Germans can learn to value liberty.

  79. @theMann
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hope for three reasons:

    1. The silent majority, which is mostly White, has of necessity been roused by the Democrats race-baiting.

    2. Even if it is a small section of the populace, those of us confronting the series of War Crimes known as Covid are extremely committed to action.

    3. The Republican ground game for registering voters has been exceptional.

    That is the good news.

    The bad news:

    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can't pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.

    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46, @PhysicistDave

    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.

    Leftists derive their power from “angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people.” You do not want them to win, especially now, because the disasters you predict would only serve to consolidate and strengthen what is already their nearly complete grip on our country.

  80. Great movie on amazon prime. Plot Against the President. How the DNC Obama and the FBI went after Trump and General Flynn from the summer of 2016 to the present.

    It’s not just the FBI though. City County State Federal White employees are all hard left liberals and have been since affirmative action. With no objective tests and job experience required, the interview and hard left “applicable experience “, such as being active in the college socialist gay communist clubs became the sole criteria for selecting White government workers. It started 60 years ago, the long march through the institutions, generation after generation

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Alden

    And
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqi5Cv4OFJg

    , @Clyde
    @Alden

    Righteous from you love keep posting.

  81. Anonymous[307] • Disclaimer says:

    Senators don’t beat POTUS incumbents and old senators get creamed:

    Trip Gabriel @tripgabriel 22h Some concerns for Biden in PA polling, including in Philly, where he’s running 10 points behind Hillary Clinton’s support in 2016 and Trump is ~9 points ahead of where he was four years ago. Via ⁦@GioRussonello⁩ https://nytimes.com/2020/10/25/us/…

    Nothing can save an old senator except to run against another senator. And no it doesn’t help to be VP.

    The autopsy on the 2020 Biden campaign will be painful. But Bannon just reminded his audience that Sen. JillJoe finished 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire. The writing was on the wall.

    What was the real point of JillJoe’s campaign? BLOCK BERNIE SANDERS.

    Mission accomplished, Bidenists.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Which makes it all the more wierdly-elderly-Jewish-badass what Sanders did to Biden. If you don't know then act like it, Bernie just threw his minibase ALL THE BONES. Erection, cross-party, lasting longer than three hours. Bernie demonstrating why youngins love him and suggesting that he actually got what was repeatedly done to him. The Sicilian speech from True Romance. Seriously, it was actually more impressive than Trump's win in the final debate. It's like the ending of Hidden Fortress.

    Replies: @Peterike

    , @Anon
    @Anonymous

    Interesting results from Phillie. I'm wondering about the potential vote shift in big cities this time. Considering that Phillie wasn't even a riot epicenter, the outcomes from places like New York, Milwaukee, Portland, and Seattle will be interesting. It's hard to tell what New York will do, because many of the normies fled the city in the wake of Covid and will be voting from elsewhere. When the normies leave, the remainder is free to be as radical as they want.

    I really regret De Blasio isn't up for reelection this cycle. In fact, I notice the previous election years for mayor are 2017 and 2013. SOMEBODY noticed that putting the mayor on the ballot in a presidential election year tends to show a tail effect, and they didn't want it. So they put the mayoral race in an off-year deliberately to depress turnout.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    , @David In TN
    @Anonymous

    A former VP who had lost a previous presidential election and a governor's race was elected POTUS in 1968.

  82. @AndrewR
    Democracy is gay beyond belief.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @tyrone, @JohnnyWalker123

    You forgot….not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  83. @theMann
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hope for three reasons:

    1. The silent majority, which is mostly White, has of necessity been roused by the Democrats race-baiting.

    2. Even if it is a small section of the populace, those of us confronting the series of War Crimes known as Covid are extremely committed to action.

    3. The Republican ground game for registering voters has been exceptional.

    That is the good news.

    The bad news:

    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can't pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.

    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46, @PhysicistDave

    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can’t pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.

    Where do you get this stuff?

    Democratic governors tanked their states economies:
    — because they need to “do” something, exercising government power is “who they are”
    — to screw the economy and ergo Trump
    — to punish small business not on board

    The 2nd quarter was the worse quarterly drop in the economy–i believe–in my life.

    But now the economy is bouncing back strongly. If Trump is elected the surge will continue.

    But even if Biden is elected, he doesn’t want a lingering recession it will be pedal to the metal on stimulus bailing out all the Democrat cities and states. And then–you can take it to the bank–suddenly they will discover that this covid thing isn’t the end of the world. The vaccines work. New therapies work. “New data” shows it’s not a big deal for 95% of folks.

    ~~

    And seriously “catastrophic food shortages?” huh? Trust me farmers weren’t too scared to get into the field to plant or harvest. They got their crop in fine.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @theMann
    @AnotherDad

    https://agfax.com/2020/10/13/corn-soybeans-smaller-supply-forecast-as-derecho-harvest-impact-grows/

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/2020-global-wine-harvest-report-california-france-italy-oregon-and-more

    https://www.capitalpress.com/state/oregon/columbia-basin-farmers-finish-harvesting-potato-crop-after-tumultuous-spring/article_4f057c80-13c7-11eb-a57f-bb4898c9b9c5.html


    Easy to criticize, but since you are already on the Internet maybe you could look up a few facts for yourselves.

    1. Smaller harvest across the Northern hemisphere - pick the product. (Try pork for starters.)

    2. Disruptions in the supply chain. Fewer products reach markets. More farms, and food processing centers, going bankrupt.

    3. Most countries much worse of than the USA. Weather and locusts, lack of workers due to Covid restrictions.

    4. All of this is deliberately designed. Even a small reduction in nutrition leads to a significant increase in disease. Blame on Covid (Mutations) and ratchet up the Police State.


    Of course, you can always try the evidence of your own eyes - grocery store prices going up, Produce quality rapidly declining. Not to mention food banks country-wide running out of items.


    And there is always this:


    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/21/coronavirus-governor-orders-state-national-guard-to-help-california-food-banks/


    I could quote 49 more headlines, or you could get off your ass and do your own research.

  84. @Anonymous
    Senators don't beat POTUS incumbents and old senators get creamed:

    Trip Gabriel @tripgabriel 22h Some concerns for Biden in PA polling, including in Philly, where he’s running 10 points behind Hillary Clinton’s support in 2016 and Trump is ~9 points ahead of where he was four years ago. Via ⁦@GioRussonello⁩ https://nytimes.com/2020/10/25/us/...

    Nothing can save an old senator except to run against another senator. And no it doesn't help to be VP.

    The autopsy on the 2020 Biden campaign will be painful. But Bannon just reminded his audience that Sen. JillJoe finished 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire. The writing was on the wall.

    What was the real point of JillJoe's campaign? BLOCK BERNIE SANDERS.

    Mission accomplished, Bidenists.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anon, @David In TN

    Which makes it all the more wierdly-elderly-Jewish-badass what Sanders did to Biden. If you don’t know then act like it, Bernie just threw his minibase ALL THE BONES. Erection, cross-party, lasting longer than three hours. Bernie demonstrating why youngins love him and suggesting that he actually got what was repeatedly done to him. The Sicilian speech from True Romance. Seriously, it was actually more impressive than Trump’s win in the final debate. It’s like the ending of Hidden Fortress.

    • Replies: @Peterike
    @J.Ross

    “ Which makes it all the more wierdly-elderly-Jewish-badass what Sanders did to Biden.”

    What did he do other than take his latest bribe and slip quietly away, like he planned all along? Grifters gonna grift.

    No seriously, what did he do?

    Replies: @J.Ross

  85. @Alden
    Great movie on amazon prime. Plot Against the President. How the DNC Obama and the FBI went after Trump and General Flynn from the summer of 2016 to the present.

    It’s not just the FBI though. City County State Federal White employees are all hard left liberals and have been since affirmative action. With no objective tests and job experience required, the interview and hard left “applicable experience “, such as being active in the college socialist gay communist clubs became the sole criteria for selecting White government workers. It started 60 years ago, the long march through the institutions, generation after generation

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Clyde

    And

  86. OT: “Jessica Yaniv files human rights complaint against beauty pageant for not letting her compete.”

    Yaniv is an ugly trans fatso, of course.

    https://thepostmillennial.com/jessica-yaniv-files-human-rights-complaint-against-beauty-pageant-for-not-letting-her-compete

    Yaniv calls himself a lesbian. If you’re a man who is attracted to women, you’re not a lesbian. Sheesh.

  87. @The Alarmist
    South Texas was notorious for “found” ballot boxes in those days. Robert Caro recounts in his biographies of Johnson how the trick was used to make Johnson a Senator.

    I recall a hysterical a Wolf Blitzer on Election night 2016 begging John King to find votes for Clinton on his big board. It’s a good thing that King wasn’t actually in a position to deliver.

    Fortunately, Illinois is so deep blue that it no longer matters. Texas is again a problem.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @AnotherDad

    Fortunately, Illinois is so deep blue that it no longer matters. Texas is again a problem.

    Texas isn’t the problem. Pennsylvania is the big problem, and maybe Michigan or Wisconsin. Trump needs at least one of the three.

    The Democrats–in King County–probably stole the 2004 Washington governor’s election. On the third or fourth try they miraculously found a new batch of de-enveloped but “mislaid” ballots which flipped it from Dino Rossi to Christine Gregoire. It was the classic scenario Steve recounts from 1960–after a couple recounts they knew the number they had to come up with … and came up with it.

    Republicans are absolute fools for allowing this scenario to exist. This mail-in thing is ripe for fraud. Republicans need to lock in a system–with hard legal stops–that every last ballot that is legitimate to count, must be turned in and locked down … and only then counting. And the state–not Democratic counties–counts and reports, with nothing being revealed until every last vote in the state has been counted. This is not hard stuff to do.

    Better is getting rid of this mail in fraud.

    Have only in person voting and on-line voting (public software everyone can check) that is secure and signed in a way that allows the voter–but only the voter–to check that his specific vote remains the vote he cast with the signed proof demonstrating any attempt at alteration/fraud. (To the system it is just a valid vote.) This again is not an undoable project. You don’t like/trust the on-line thing–you vote old style in person.

    • Replies: @Veracitor
    @AnotherDad

    The (then) King County WA official who stole the 2004 Washington Governor’s election for the Democrat Christine Gregoire is named Dean Logan. As a reward for his malfeasance he was made Election Commissioner of Los Angeles County CA, where he is still deliberately sabotaging elections on behalf of powerful Democrats, most recently Gavin Newsome:
    https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/los-angeles/15595-la-vote-chaos-incompetence-or-sabotage-by-least-qualified-election-exec

    , @Odin
    @AnotherDad


    Republicans need to lock in a system–with hard legal stops–that every last ballot that is legitimate to count, must be turned in and locked down … and only then counting.
     
    Query from a bemused Canadian:

    How come the U.S. election system allows so much corruption? Is there a flaw in the system that the Framers laid down? In practical terms (actual laws / amendments) is there anything that can be cone about it?

    Replies: @Muggles

  88. @eD
    This comment is semi-off topic, since the original post is really about vote stealing in 2020, not 1960, but the comment will be about political trivia about the 1960 election.

    Wikipedia lists the tipping point state in 1960 as Missouri. The closest Kennedy states listed were Hawaii (0.1% margin), Illinois (0.2%), and Missouri (0.5%). The closest Nixon state was California (0.5% margin). There was much less state by state variation in the results than is the case now, so twenty of the fifty states were won with margins of less than 5% in that election. And since 15 electors voted for neither Nixon or Kennedy, Nixon would have still needed to carry Kennedy states New Mexico and New Jersey

    Technically, the Democrats and Republicans are coalitions of state parties, and everything but financing is done in American elections on a state by state basis. State Democratic and Republican officials control the election boards that actually count the results. So Kennedy, who was, at least as much as Johnson, the machine candidate in the nomination contest, needed state parties in several states to be more effective at vote stealing than their Republican counterparts to win (0.7% and 0.8% margins), to get an electoral vote majority. Though Kennedy, who told people that he would have voted for Nixon if he wasn't running himself, would likely have conceded if Nixon won the nationwide popular vote but was in a situation where he needed the fifteen Byrd electors to win.

    Nixon probably did win the nationwide popular vote, since Kennedy's nationwide popular vote margin on mainstream sites like Wikipedia is produced by counting some of the votes for the Byrd electors as votes for Kennedy. Wikipedia at least has a section discussing this.

    Since the compromise of 1876, it is actually difficult for Democrats and Republicans to steal elections from each other, since officials from both state parties are usually the ones in charge of counting the votes. However, one party will often agree to have the election get stolen from them in instances where some maverick or reformer gets nominated. And your vote for the Libertarian candidate is likely not going to get counted. I think the play in 2020 is regime change, not in getting another Democratic hack elected, so there will be more "chaos" in the past.

    For Biden supporters, mask wearing in public has replaced the signs. I honestly prefer the signs.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Since the compromise of 1876, it is actually difficult for Democrats and Republicans to steal elections from each other, since officials from both state parties are usually the ones in charge of counting the votes.

    Can you name me one election the Republicans stole? Serious question.

    • Replies: @Polymath
    @Jim Don Bob

    2004 Ohio maybe and that would have made the difference

  89. Randy Newman & Friends perform “I Love L.A.” at the 2013 Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Induction Ceremony

    Braggadocious love changes into “I want to sell house and get the f out of this looted homeless landscape.” “I can stay but my love wants out and far away”

  90. @peterike
    And remember eeyores, Trump only "replaced" some old border wall which is NOTHING LIKE building a new wall. Right? Watch the video in the first response to the tweet.

    https://twitter.com/RichieMcGinniss/status/1320477747421073415

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    From this eyeore*, you have my apologies for ragging on this replacement fence. Not bad, and I hope they have the posts, cameras, and the manpower to follow through with this. Thanks, Peter.

    .

    * Thank you for remembering Jim Hanson’s term!

  91. @Alden
    Great movie on amazon prime. Plot Against the President. How the DNC Obama and the FBI went after Trump and General Flynn from the summer of 2016 to the present.

    It’s not just the FBI though. City County State Federal White employees are all hard left liberals and have been since affirmative action. With no objective tests and job experience required, the interview and hard left “applicable experience “, such as being active in the college socialist gay communist clubs became the sole criteria for selecting White government workers. It started 60 years ago, the long march through the institutions, generation after generation

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Clyde

    Righteous from you love keep posting.

  92. @Reg Cæsar
    Somebody stop Florida Man, before he does it again:

    Police: Florida man stole bulldozer, ran down Biden signs

    The man's name is Blight. For real.

    https://www.wfla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/71/2020/10/james-blight-bulldozer-incident-.jpg


    Oh, and it's a backhoe, not a bulldozer. Illiterate "journalists".

    https://www.wfla.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/71/2020/10/james-blight-on-bulldozer-1.jpg?w=876

    Important question: is he a Trumpster, or a Bernie Bro?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    This is what (possibly inebriated) Florida men are for. I love it, Reg! And that’s a front end loader, man.

    • Replies: @FPD72
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Actually, it’s a backhoe. You can tell by the presence of an outrigger (in the raised position) on the left rear of the machine.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman

    , @Bill Jones
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It's a backhoe: see stabilizer in foreground.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  93. @peterike
    @Achmed E. Newman


    Not only is the cheating much easier to do now, as we’ve already seen, but there is much more time during which the D’s can work it all out, after they’ve got the numbers.

     

    Exactly. Hence the ongoing furious battles to allow states to keep counting until days after the election. Pennsylvania in particular seems to be targeted by the Dems for fraud, with a big fat helping hand from the execrable Justice Roberts. The amazing thing is that they aren't maneuvering behind closed door, but absolutely out in public, using the courts. They are openly displaying their fraud scheme for all to see, but since the media isn't interested, nothing happens.

    Team Trump is battling this state by state, but they only have to lose in a few key states. I think Trump will legitimately win in both Michigan and Pennsylvania but will ultimately lose a few days later thanks to fraud.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    I think DJT will win if the votes are counted accurately and honestly, but that is a big if. As you say, the Ds aren’t even trying to hide their shenanigans, and may steal the election.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  94. @AndrewR
    Democracy is gay beyond belief.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @syonredux, @tyrone, @JohnnyWalker123

    What makes you think that we live in a democracy?

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @JohnnyWalker123

    He didn’t.

  95. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Polistra

    Just Wow! Tampax is literally doubling it's market overnight, or over a short period (groan). This is marketing genius! Steve, why didn't you think of something like this when you were in marketing? It's bleedin' brilliant, mate!

    OK, I have so many more jokes on this that I better save for a good blog post.

    Thank you so much, Polista. You don't know how much this brightened my high-flow day over here.

    .

    I gotta go ... feelin' cramped ... somebody cue up the Alice Cooper. I don't' know why I gotta do that every time. And, you people always give me a hard time for writing too many comments. What does it take to please you people?! I don't know if I can keep commenting. Everything sucks. It's always gonna suck ...

    Replies: @Jim Christian, @MEH 0910

    I gotta go … feelin’ cramped … somebody cue up the Alice Cooper.

    Only Women Bleed

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @MEH 0910

    Excuse me, MEH, but I believe you and Alice ought to getcher minds right. Don't you mean "only people who identify as women bleed"? I sure hope so, for your sake and Alice's. Wait, Alice? He's gotta be woke.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  96. @donut
    The C-Span interviews with that Brooklyn Commie Jew Caro and his biography of LBJ are fascinating on this subject , at least they were to me . And even though I'm a dyed in the wool antiSemite I do like Caro despite his many detractors . And by the way Brian Lamb is one of the best hosts (?) , interviewers there are , he never interrupts his guests to say "hey , I'm smart too" . I read some where that on average in a 50 min. interview he only speaks for 5 min.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    “…he never interrupts his guests to say “hey , I’m smart too.”

    Perfect. Though I am not familiar with either Caro or Lamb, dyed in the wool as he may be.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @Neil Templeton

    Unfamiliar with Caro? Well, he’s really just written 2 huge biographies.

    Replies: @donut

  97. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    This is what (possibly inebriated) Florida men are for. I love it, Reg! And that's a front end loader, man.

    Replies: @FPD72, @Bill Jones

    Actually, it’s a backhoe. You can tell by the presence of an outrigger (in the raised position) on the left rear of the machine.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @FPD72

    Nah, there's no elbow joint, FPD. It's a front end loader with a backhoe attachment. However, this article's correction says it is front-end loader with a backhoe "arm". Arm?


    CORRECTION (Oct. 26, 2020, 12:45 p.m. ET): A previous version of this article incorrectly described the machine that was allegedly stolen. It was a front-end loader with a backhoe arm, not a bulldozer.
     
    Here's the hilarious part from NBC though. See, they don't believe that a drunk white man can dig up a yard with a front-end loader (YES, with a backhoe attachment!). Just because a drunk black man may not be able to even get the machine in gear doesn't mean a drunk white FLORIDA man can't make good use of one.

    Marion said that the white suspect vandalized a predominantly Black neighborhood.

    "He claimed he was drunk, but if he was drunk could he steal and drive a tractor right up here to this area, that's a predominantly Black area? Operating the backhoe like a normal person?" Marion said.

    "I understand he was saying, 'I accidentally ran into something,' but no, you deliberately dropped your front end loader at the other house and you just scooped up in their yard, so I don't buy the drunkenness part."
     

    Full disclosure: I operated a front-end loader only once, for about 20 minutes on a pile of gravel. It was a blast ... until my friend's sister's husband, who happened to own the machine, came home. I was fully sober.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @FPD72

    I'm sorry, FDP, I didn't address the outriggers. Yeah, I see what you mean. I think even the correction has it wrong along with my reply, obviously. The bucket IS a front-loader type, of course. Would the machine have been built as a back-hoe but with that whole dual-arm assembly swapped in?* You may be an expert, so I'll defer to you. Again, sorry for buggering this up.

    .

    * That'd make it the opposite of what the "correction" said: A backhoe with a front-loader arm.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  98. @Anonymous
    With more fires hitting California, Rubio's Mexican food going bankrupt, along with Governor Newsom announcing his crazy 'Wear a mask between bites of turkey'

    Isn't obvious that the Democrats are trying to run the poor/lower middle class/minorities out of their states?

    We're looking at this all wrong...

    Killing minorities in NYC via nursing homes...feature not a bug

    Harassing minorities in Los Angeles for having large family get togethers....feature not a bug

    Killing all the restaurants (and other businesses) that serve the lower and middle classes...hispanic and otherwise---feature not a bug

    Can anyone detail the economic cost on the hispanic population in L.A.? Say what you will about illegal immigration, but Hispanics first got screwed with NAFTA, and now Democrat Newsom.

    They can blame Trump and get people to leave the state. Trump should call up some hispanic community leaders (real ones) and get the 411 on what is happening to people in California.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross

    Hispanics have been infected with coronavirus at about twice the rate of blacks in California.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @Steve Sailer

    "Hispanics have been infected with coronavirus at about twice the rate of blacks in California."

    Because mexicans on average live with more people. Recent CDC report comparing C19-positive and C19-negative groups revealed that facediapers accomplish nothing and the biggest difference between the two groups was living in the same household as someone who was C19-positive.

    80% of the C19-poz group lived with someone who was also poz.

    Only 20% of C19-neg group lived with someone who was poz.

    Viz: if you live with more people, the odds increase you live with someone who is poz.

    Both groups diapered up 'always' or 'usually' 85% of the time.

    Facediapers are ineffective. But, then again, this has been known for decades and was conveniently forgotten because our President was cruising to sure victory on the strength of His economic miracle.

  99. @LondonBob
    Landslide Lyndon also made sure the votes came in to win Texas.

    Replies: @I, Libertine, @Paul Jolliffe

    C’mon, if you’re going to reference the 1948 Senate Democratic primary, you gotta show the picture of LBJ’s henchmen, grinning like crazy as they pose around the infamous 13th precinct box!
    200 “additional” votes, mysteriously appeared at the last moment to give Johnson the win by 87 votes (out of 1.1 million m
    https://roughdiplomacy.com/box-13-scandal/

  100. @Nico
    @syonredux

    He’s dumb as a general rule, but here he’s more elitist than anything else. In Kazakhstan the country-bumpkin majority doesn’t take kindly to SBC but their chattering classes love him, because they understand perfectly that Borat is a projection of real or supposed American perceptions of Kazakhstan. The films are not a parody of Kazakhstan; they’re not anti-Muslim: they ARE however resolutely anti-white and anti-American. The masses might not get the second degree but the cosmopolites do: the film was made for them. What the cosmopolitan classes DON’T get is the lives of ordinary people on the ground, nor are they so sophisticated as to be capable of applying the ‘Borat’ standard to themselves. The whole movie is a basic parody of what liberal yuppie Jews think of regular Americans: those accustomed to American media, for precisely the reason that it is run by triple parentheses, might not pick up on it, either.

    Anyhow, fuck SBC. A revolting twit on the outside and the inside.

    Replies: @prosa123

    SBC originally intended Borat to be Albanian, but decided that would be too risky because it might offend Albanian gangbangers in London.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @prosa123

    Albanians run London's coke trade, and they're starting to move into cannabis farming, previously a Vietnamese (at least at the low end - checking the crop, watering etc) speciality .

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/kings-of-cocaine-albanian-mafia-uk-drugs-crime

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8850699/1m-Coventry-cannabis-farm-busted-police.html

    Some police officers were recently disciplined for saying inter alia that Albanians 'should be shot or even killed with a nerve agent'. But what would Serious Crime Squad officers know about Albanians?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8855923/Members-police-gangbusting-unit-caught-calling-women-w-s-s-ts.html

  101. Do they still use the punch card system? I remember one of the Bushes winning because the punch card reader was choked up with confetti.

  102. @Paul Jolliffe
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Yes, I think the ballot counting will be a weeks long shit show.

    A positive though: Hillary Clinton announced that a Trump victory would “cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    You know, I’d almost pay to watch her get “cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    A Pay-per-View event opportunity, maybe?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfla.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-thought-of-trump-winning-again-makes-me-literally-sick-to-my-stomach/amp/

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

    A positive though: Hillary Clinton announced that a Trump victory would “cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    “Cognitive Dissonance of a Grave Degree” might be a good name for a New Wave retro band.

  103. @Reg Cæsar
    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/03/c7/d1/03c7d12ee6a8556cc17cfc9b374702a6.jpg


    If Mencken's (above) is the best quote about democracy in theory, Uncle Joe's is the best about democracy in practice.

    However, Namibia FactCheck doubts he's the one who said it, and if you can't believe Namibia FactCheck, whom can you believe?

    No, Stalin didn’t make statement about voting

    https://namibiafactcheck.org.na/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/namibia-fact-check-logo-200.png

    Replies: @Anonymous

  104. @FPD72
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Actually, it’s a backhoe. You can tell by the presence of an outrigger (in the raised position) on the left rear of the machine.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman

    Nah, there’s no elbow joint, FPD. It’s a front end loader with a backhoe attachment. However, this article‘s correction says it is front-end loader with a backhoe “arm”. Arm?

    CORRECTION (Oct. 26, 2020, 12:45 p.m. ET): A previous version of this article incorrectly described the machine that was allegedly stolen. It was a front-end loader with a backhoe arm, not a bulldozer.

    Here’s the hilarious part from NBC though. See, they don’t believe that a drunk white man can dig up a yard with a front-end loader (YES, with a backhoe attachment!). Just because a drunk black man may not be able to even get the machine in gear doesn’t mean a drunk white FLORIDA man can’t make good use of one.

    Marion said that the white suspect vandalized a predominantly Black neighborhood.

    “He claimed he was drunk, but if he was drunk could he steal and drive a tractor right up here to this area, that’s a predominantly Black area? Operating the backhoe like a normal person?” Marion said.

    “I understand he was saying, ‘I accidentally ran into something,’ but no, you deliberately dropped your front end loader at the other house and you just scooped up in their yard, so I don’t buy the drunkenness part.”

    Full disclosure: I operated a front-end loader only once, for about 20 minutes on a pile of gravel. It was a blast … until my friend’s sister’s husband, who happened to own the machine, came home. I was fully sober.

  105. @MEH 0910
    @Achmed E. Newman


    I gotta go … feelin’ cramped … somebody cue up the Alice Cooper.
     
    Only Women Bleed
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTx6S4kXbXc

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Excuse me, MEH, but I believe you and Alice ought to getcher minds right. Don’t you mean “only people who identify as women bleed”? I sure hope so, for your sake and Alice’s. Wait, Alice? He’s gotta be woke.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Achmed E. Newman

    https://twitter.com/alicecooper/status/1316724253362847744

    https://twitter.com/alicecooper/status/1316733266083409920

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  106. @anonymous-antimarxist

    Even in the most corrupt states of the Union, one cannot steal more than one or two percent of the vote…
     
    It is almost as if the smart thing for the Republicans to do would be to selectively insist that that the Democrats be allowed to "count every vote".

    With mail in voting, not to mention the more traditional shenanigans, you are now bound to have thousands of precincts with 120%, 130%, 140%..... 200% turnout for the Democrats.

    This is where the role of the (((THREE LETTER NETWORKS))) are critical. In 1960 they could spin the fraud in Kennedy's favor because it was relatively slight and white America trusted them.

    The #METoobin fiasco revealed that the (((Networks))) were all planning on how to coordinate spinning a massive obvious fraud. But what now given that no white cis-hetero male with a T-score above 200 would believe the (((MSM)))???

    They only way election night will work out for the Democrats is if Paul Ryan helps find a way to have Tucker Carlson assassinated.

    Replies: @Peterike

    “ you are now bound to have thousands of precincts with 120%, 130%, 140%….. 200% turnout for the Democrats.”

    There have already been cases of that in elections. Nobody cares.

  107. @FPD72
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Actually, it’s a backhoe. You can tell by the presence of an outrigger (in the raised position) on the left rear of the machine.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m sorry, FDP, I didn’t address the outriggers. Yeah, I see what you mean. I think even the correction has it wrong along with my reply, obviously. The bucket IS a front-loader type, of course. Would the machine have been built as a back-hoe but with that whole dual-arm assembly swapped in?* You may be an expert, so I’ll defer to you. Again, sorry for buggering this up.

    .

    * That’d make it the opposite of what the “correction” said: A backhoe with a front-loader arm.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Isn't a backhoe essentially a mini-front-end loader with a mini-excavator bucket on the back? I read they were invented in Britain, where there is much less room to move around on tiny lots.


    Whatever they are, they are not toys for amateurs:


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/aa/2e/6daa2ebfa9aa9e38b80ec71e4c44e136.jpg

    (Yes, we know that is neither a front-end loader nor a backhoe.)

    Replies: @Bill Jones

  108. @Achmed E. Newman
    @MEH 0910

    Excuse me, MEH, but I believe you and Alice ought to getcher minds right. Don't you mean "only people who identify as women bleed"? I sure hope so, for your sake and Alice's. Wait, Alice? He's gotta be woke.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/alicecooper/status/1303735754645016576

  109. @Jim Don Bob
    @eD


    Since the compromise of 1876, it is actually difficult for Democrats and Republicans to steal elections from each other, since officials from both state parties are usually the ones in charge of counting the votes.
     
    Can you name me one election the Republicans stole? Serious question.

    Replies: @Polymath

    2004 Ohio maybe and that would have made the difference

  110. @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    Which makes it all the more wierdly-elderly-Jewish-badass what Sanders did to Biden. If you don't know then act like it, Bernie just threw his minibase ALL THE BONES. Erection, cross-party, lasting longer than three hours. Bernie demonstrating why youngins love him and suggesting that he actually got what was repeatedly done to him. The Sicilian speech from True Romance. Seriously, it was actually more impressive than Trump's win in the final debate. It's like the ending of Hidden Fortress.

    Replies: @Peterike

    “ Which makes it all the more wierdly-elderly-Jewish-badass what Sanders did to Biden.”

    What did he do other than take his latest bribe and slip quietly away, like he planned all along? Grifters gonna grift.

    No seriously, what did he do?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Peterike

    My bad, this was an audio clip from when he was still a candidate, and I misheard it as recent. Of course you're right: Sanders would never confront Biden now. It would validate his credibility if he did though.

  111. @MEH 0910
    @Achmed E. Newman

    https://twitter.com/alicecooper/status/1316724253362847744

    https://twitter.com/alicecooper/status/1316733266083409920

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  112. Anon[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bugg
    @Anon

    I worked as a poll worker in NYC for a few cycles when my business got slow; thankfully it picked up. My retired teacher mom still does.There are some very competent people of all parties working for BOE. But at the same time you have entrenched incompetents of both parties. And the latter are a problem. They tend to show up at polling sites and think it's time to order everyone around , invariably when it's busy. Bad enough the job of poll worker is tedious and boring, and the equipment is clunky if functional. To have a politically-connected hack who usually smells of booze start acting like Colonel Klink on a power trip, no thanks. Chases away well-meaning people who take the job.

    The experience made me think we would be better off offering voting over the internet. Because this system could not be worse. NY poll workers can challenge voters by doing a signature comparison. But no poll worker gets a second of any such training. By law, NY state mandates no photo ID is required for voting. NY state offers a free photo ID through DMV, but somehow requiring people to meet that minimal requirement is RAYCESS!

    Replies: @Anon

    By law, NY state mandates no photo ID is required for voting. NY state offers a free photo ID through DMV, but somehow requiring people to meet that minimal requirement is RAYCESS!

    I read an article a couple of years ago about citizens’s problems with the voter ID law in their state. This was in a college town in the midwest, very liberal.

    To his great credit the journalist reported out the story by interviewing three “victims” of the law (I’m not sure how he found them … complaints from Twitter?).

    The three were two black women and a white male grad student. One of the black women had diabetes or something that made it hard for her to go to the DMV … but not to the polling station, apparently. So she had no driver’s licence. The second woman was ditzy, but not enough to not remember to vote. She showed her bus pass, which didn’t count.

    In both cases they were allowed to vote, but their ballots were held while they got ID. As long as they verified theemselves in some way within two weeks, their ballots would be counted (assuming the total number of uncounted ballots by that point could change the election results). So nobody is disenfranchised by the law.

    By the way, the law allowed several kinds of ID to be used, not just drivers licenses, maybe eight or ten different IDs. One was a student ID. This was where the grad student came in. He sort of came off like an activist who was trying to come up with some way to criticise the law. At any rate, his story was that he was an out-of-state student, from state A studying at the local state B university. He tried to vote with his student ID, but student ID must be used within the school term, and it was summer. His drivers license was out of state. So he actually could not vote.

    This is not a bug. It’s a feature. You cannot vote in two states. He had IDs that potentially would have allowed him to vote in two places. You are supposed to change your drivers license when your domicile (as legally defined) changes. He didn’t. Nevertheless, had school been in term, his school ID would have allowed him to vote in state B. This is a very loose system, since his drivers license still allowed him to vote in state A. So he has nothing to complain about. He did not have the correct drivers license for his claimed state B domicile, and if he considered state A his domicile he could have voted by absentee ballot, even if it really wasn’t his domicile.

    This video is probably edited to make voter ID laws look maximally stupid, but it contrasts white progressives worrying about helpless black people, while black people are offened that a white person would think they aren’t together enough to get a drivers licenses, and they don’t know of any black person who doesn’t have one.

    • Thanks: bomag
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anon


    You cannot vote in two states.
     
    I don't see why not. It may be contrary to the law now, but it wouldn't be unconstitutional if both states allowed it. Elections never cross state lines, so it wouldn't distort any results. If you have two homes-- property in two states-- why not? Especially if you're paying significant taxes in both.

    I wouldn't recommend it, though. At least be very careful how, when, where, and to whom the privilege is granted. Make sure it bolsters your side, not the other.

    The voting age should be lowered for male citizens who could be drafted in the next Congress. (That wouldn't violate the 19th Amendment if written properly.) If foreigners are coming from the right places, and apply for citizenship, let them vote, too. That was common in the late 19th century. But not, as you might imagine, in the coastal states.

    As far as votes crossing state lines, I'd really love to see Trump win the "popular vote" this time. Then hound the Democratic states in the NPVIC to give their electors to him!

    , @Bugg
    @Anon

    NY state has another issue with drivers licenses identification. Because NY state resident auto insurance is so high(thanks, tort lawyers!), lots of NYers fraudulently register their cars out of state. This is almost prevalent in The Hood; tons of cars with exotic plates from down south states. Know of one ne'er do well guy that figured out NY state police computers did not interface with Canadian provinces, voila, he had Ontario plates. In fairness, in Staten Island, know of many Italian guys who pull the same trick and have Florida or PA plates. The insurance industry has tried to make that a crime, but the bill dies every year in the state legislature. So we have legions of NY residents who do not have NY state drivers licenses.

    Replies: @Known Fact

  113. @Neil Templeton
    @donut


    "...he never interrupts his guests to say “hey , I’m smart too."
     
    Perfect. Though I am not familiar with either Caro or Lamb, dyed in the wool as he may be.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    Unfamiliar with Caro? Well, he’s really just written 2 huge biographies.

    • Replies: @donut
    @hhsiii

    That Commie took me hostage with his Bio of Robert Moses at 1100+ pages and I swore it would never happen again and then I watched his interviews with Brian Lamb and next thing I knew I was three volumes into his Bio of LBJ .

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?305534-1/qa-robert-caro-part-1

    Be careful the first dose is free .

    Replies: @donut, @donut, @donut

  114. @JohnnyWalker123
    @AndrewR

    What makes you think that we live in a democracy?

    Replies: @hhsiii

    He didn’t.

  115. @Alden
    @syonredux

    I guess Mencken didn’t know that both the Angles and Saxons were originally from Germany.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton

    Technically from what is now Denmark, IIRC, but the main point is that they migrated to the Isle and mixed with folk who truly valued liberty. At a very high cost. Even Germans can learn to value liberty.

  116. Anon[224] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Harvard Crimson complains that 27% of 18-29 year old are backing Trump this cycle, whereas 21% of the same age group backed Trump in 2016. I’m curious about where they got this info. If so, combined with a bigger Millennial swing to Trump that I saw in August polls, it’ll put him in office handily.

  117. @theMann
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hope for three reasons:

    1. The silent majority, which is mostly White, has of necessity been roused by the Democrats race-baiting.

    2. Even if it is a small section of the populace, those of us confronting the series of War Crimes known as Covid are extremely committed to action.

    3. The Republican ground game for registering voters has been exceptional.

    That is the good news.

    The bad news:

    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can't pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.

    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46, @PhysicistDave

    You’re right about what to hope for tM. Let the Dems deal with the cesspit that they’ve created. The downside is that we won’t get to watch the wailing, beating of breasts, and pulling of hair by the Left. And poor Mr Trump will quite possibly be imprisoned.

  118. @Matra
    Back in the 1990s one of the paleocons - maybe Clyde Wilson? - said Nixon's refusal to challenge the election result and instead be the good sport pushover for the sake of unity and stability set the standard for conservative loserdom ever since. (Though it wouldn't surprise me if they were losers before then).

    Replies: @David In TN, @Reg Cæsar

    Back in the 1990s one of the paleocons – maybe Clyde Wilson? – said Nixon’s refusal to challenge the election result and instead be the good sport pushover for the sake of unity and stability set the standard for conservative loserdom ever since.

    He certainly knew the true nature of Democrats, considering where he was from.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Reg Cæsar

    Clyde Wilson (from what I can tell from his writings) grew up as a Deep South Democrat and was for George Wallace in 1968. I think he was born in 1941. Wilson still criticizes Republicans more than Democrats. He recently wrote a piece at a blog called "Reckonin" called "Trump Is Not the Fighter We Need."

  119. @Achmed E. Newman
    @FPD72

    I'm sorry, FDP, I didn't address the outriggers. Yeah, I see what you mean. I think even the correction has it wrong along with my reply, obviously. The bucket IS a front-loader type, of course. Would the machine have been built as a back-hoe but with that whole dual-arm assembly swapped in?* You may be an expert, so I'll defer to you. Again, sorry for buggering this up.

    .

    * That'd make it the opposite of what the "correction" said: A backhoe with a front-loader arm.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Isn’t a backhoe essentially a mini-front-end loader with a mini-excavator bucket on the back? I read they were invented in Britain, where there is much less room to move around on tiny lots.

    Whatever they are, they are not toys for amateurs:


    (Yes, we know that is neither a front-end loader nor a backhoe.)

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Reg Cæsar

    Shame you can see the light grey tarmac under the treads.

  120. Anon[224] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Senators don't beat POTUS incumbents and old senators get creamed:

    Trip Gabriel @tripgabriel 22h Some concerns for Biden in PA polling, including in Philly, where he’s running 10 points behind Hillary Clinton’s support in 2016 and Trump is ~9 points ahead of where he was four years ago. Via ⁦@GioRussonello⁩ https://nytimes.com/2020/10/25/us/...

    Nothing can save an old senator except to run against another senator. And no it doesn't help to be VP.

    The autopsy on the 2020 Biden campaign will be painful. But Bannon just reminded his audience that Sen. JillJoe finished 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire. The writing was on the wall.

    What was the real point of JillJoe's campaign? BLOCK BERNIE SANDERS.

    Mission accomplished, Bidenists.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anon, @David In TN

    Interesting results from Phillie. I’m wondering about the potential vote shift in big cities this time. Considering that Phillie wasn’t even a riot epicenter, the outcomes from places like New York, Milwaukee, Portland, and Seattle will be interesting. It’s hard to tell what New York will do, because many of the normies fled the city in the wake of Covid and will be voting from elsewhere. When the normies leave, the remainder is free to be as radical as they want.

    I really regret De Blasio isn’t up for reelection this cycle. In fact, I notice the previous election years for mayor are 2017 and 2013. SOMEBODY noticed that putting the mayor on the ballot in a presidential election year tends to show a tail effect, and they didn’t want it. So they put the mayoral race in an off-year deliberately to depress turnout.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Anon


    So they put the mayoral race in an off-year deliberately to depress turnout
     
    No, they put it in an off-year so that it is the main race, rather than an afterthought. New Jersey holds its gubernatorial elections on the same cycle, and it's much better this way.
  121. @theMann
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Hope for three reasons:

    1. The silent majority, which is mostly White, has of necessity been roused by the Democrats race-baiting.

    2. Even if it is a small section of the populace, those of us confronting the series of War Crimes known as Covid are extremely committed to action.

    3. The Republican ground game for registering voters has been exceptional.

    That is the good news.

    The bad news:

    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can't pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.

    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.

    Replies: @Buzz Mohawk, @AnotherDad, @MBlanc46, @PhysicistDave

    theMann wrote:

    I am actually hoping Democrats win very narrowly, and obviously dirty. Then I can really enjoy watching them get torn apart by angry, hungry mobs of unemployed people next Spring.

    Neither party is willing to deal with the real issues tearing our country apart: the meaningless and soul-deadening rituals we put out children through that we pretend are “education,” Sailer’s favorite theme of “affordable family formation,” the replacement of productive work by parasitic paper-shuffling “jobs” (what the late Dave Graeber, one of the righteous leftists, called “bullshit jobs” in his book of that title), a culture that tells women that bearing children is not a noble activity, etc.

    But… four years is a long time. If Trump is re-elected, we have four years of breathing room. If Biden is elected, Biden’s “dark winter” for America starts on January 20, 2021.

    No, Donald Trump is not our salvation, and the Republic will (I hope) survive Joe Biden (well, really acting-President Harris). But it is easier to survive a thunderstorm than a hurricane.

  122. @Almost Missouri


    Even in the most corrupt states of the Union, one cannot steal more than one or two percent of the vote
     

     
    Number of states in which 2016's Trump victory was by less than two percent: 6

    Number of electoral votes represented by those states: 89

    Portion of 270 electoral vote goal represented by sub-2% margin states: 33%

    Portion of Trump's 2016 electoral vote victory margin is represented by those states: 262%

    Also, I see no reason to suppose that in this mail-in chaos, extended deadline, opaque cyber-balloted election there is any reason to suppose that the ceiling on fraud is two percent.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Yes, excellent analysis, AM.

    The Pennsylvania SC ruling is a killer. Without PA, it’s hard to see Trump winning, and that ruling likely seals the deal for Biden. Is there any way three days’ worth of vote-count-massaging in that state won’t come out in favor of the Dems?

    People here in HK are genuinely bewildered by US voting protocols. They can’t process the reality, since here, as in most countries, there’s no such thing as early voting, mail-in voting, ID-free voting, etc. You go to the polls on election day, you sign in with a photo ID, and you vote manually (no machines whatsoever) on ballots that are essentially impossible to miscount (you use a chop to make a huge check mark next to the candidate you’re voting for on a large-print paper ballot form). Results come out the next morning. I can’t ever recall even a recount being needed.

    Conducting clean elections is definitely possible, but it’s obviously not something that TPPB in the USA want anymore, if they ever did.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @The Last Real Calvinist


    People here in HK are genuinely bewildered by US voting protocols
     
    Yes, people here are too.

    But Hong Kong is tiny compared to the US. We have 100+ million potential votes scattered over 50 states plus a few assorted territories.

    Each state has it's own voting laws too. The Feds over time due to mostly bad Supreme Court rulings have outlawed most of the sane requirements HK has. ID's are iffy, and while nearly all adults have Social Security numbers (required for employment) there is a specific terrible court ruling making use of them illegal for voting purposes.

    You have to prove US citizenship to have a SS identity card. Guess who didn't like that rule?

    Hong Kong is about the same size as say, Philadelphia. Rules were set up originally there by British government. Here it is much more difficult to have rational rules for voting. Also too big to compare w/ HK.
  123. @Alden
    @Polistra

    I saw that. Proctor&Gamble is one of the wealthiest corporations in the world. Can’t claim they’re worried about pressure from the tyranny lobbyists . Therefore, Proctor&Gamble is pro trannies.

    Liberalism is a mental illness

    Replies: @Hangnail Hans

    P&G own Gillette right? Who did the commercials about how trannies need to shave, and white guys need black guys to keep them in line and teach them how to behave around white women. Oh yeah.

  124. @Anon
    @Bugg


    By law, NY state mandates no photo ID is required for voting. NY state offers a free photo ID through DMV, but somehow requiring people to meet that minimal requirement is RAYCESS!
     
    I read an article a couple of years ago about citizens's problems with the voter ID law in their state. This was in a college town in the midwest, very liberal.

    To his great credit the journalist reported out the story by interviewing three "victims" of the law (I'm not sure how he found them ... complaints from Twitter?).

    The three were two black women and a white male grad student. One of the black women had diabetes or something that made it hard for her to go to the DMV ... but not to the polling station, apparently. So she had no driver's licence. The second woman was ditzy, but not enough to not remember to vote. She showed her bus pass, which didn't count.

    In both cases they were allowed to vote, but their ballots were held while they got ID. As long as they verified theemselves in some way within two weeks, their ballots would be counted (assuming the total number of uncounted ballots by that point could change the election results). So nobody is disenfranchised by the law.

    By the way, the law allowed several kinds of ID to be used, not just drivers licenses, maybe eight or ten different IDs. One was a student ID. This was where the grad student came in. He sort of came off like an activist who was trying to come up with some way to criticise the law. At any rate, his story was that he was an out-of-state student, from state A studying at the local state B university. He tried to vote with his student ID, but student ID must be used within the school term, and it was summer. His drivers license was out of state. So he actually could not vote.

    This is not a bug. It's a feature. You cannot vote in two states. He had IDs that potentially would have allowed him to vote in two places. You are supposed to change your drivers license when your domicile (as legally defined) changes. He didn't. Nevertheless, had school been in term, his school ID would have allowed him to vote in state B. This is a very loose system, since his drivers license still allowed him to vote in state A. So he has nothing to complain about. He did not have the correct drivers license for his claimed state B domicile, and if he considered state A his domicile he could have voted by absentee ballot, even if it really wasn't his domicile.

    This video is probably edited to make voter ID laws look maximally stupid, but it contrasts white progressives worrying about helpless black people, while black people are offened that a white person would think they aren't together enough to get a drivers licenses, and they don't know of any black person who doesn't have one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Bugg

    You cannot vote in two states.

    I don’t see why not. It may be contrary to the law now, but it wouldn’t be unconstitutional if both states allowed it. Elections never cross state lines, so it wouldn’t distort any results. If you have two homes– property in two states– why not? Especially if you’re paying significant taxes in both.

    I wouldn’t recommend it, though. At least be very careful how, when, where, and to whom the privilege is granted. Make sure it bolsters your side, not the other.

    The voting age should be lowered for male citizens who could be drafted in the next Congress. (That wouldn’t violate the 19th Amendment if written properly.) If foreigners are coming from the right places, and apply for citizenship, let them vote, too. That was common in the late 19th century. But not, as you might imagine, in the coastal states.

    As far as votes crossing state lines, I’d really love to see Trump win the “popular vote” this time. Then hound the Democratic states in the NPVIC to give their electors to him!

  125. @Anon
    @Anonymous

    Interesting results from Phillie. I'm wondering about the potential vote shift in big cities this time. Considering that Phillie wasn't even a riot epicenter, the outcomes from places like New York, Milwaukee, Portland, and Seattle will be interesting. It's hard to tell what New York will do, because many of the normies fled the city in the wake of Covid and will be voting from elsewhere. When the normies leave, the remainder is free to be as radical as they want.

    I really regret De Blasio isn't up for reelection this cycle. In fact, I notice the previous election years for mayor are 2017 and 2013. SOMEBODY noticed that putting the mayor on the ballot in a presidential election year tends to show a tail effect, and they didn't want it. So they put the mayoral race in an off-year deliberately to depress turnout.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    So they put the mayoral race in an off-year deliberately to depress turnout

    No, they put it in an off-year so that it is the main race, rather than an afterthought. New Jersey holds its gubernatorial elections on the same cycle, and it’s much better this way.

  126. @AnotherDad
    @The Alarmist


    Fortunately, Illinois is so deep blue that it no longer matters. Texas is again a problem.
     
    Texas isn't the problem. Pennsylvania is the big problem, and maybe Michigan or Wisconsin. Trump needs at least one of the three.

    The Democrats--in King County--probably stole the 2004 Washington governor's election. On the third or fourth try they miraculously found a new batch of de-enveloped but "mislaid" ballots which flipped it from Dino Rossi to Christine Gregoire. It was the classic scenario Steve recounts from 1960--after a couple recounts they knew the number they had to come up with ... and came up with it.

    Republicans are absolute fools for allowing this scenario to exist. This mail-in thing is ripe for fraud. Republicans need to lock in a system--with hard legal stops--that every last ballot that is legitimate to count, must be turned in and locked down ... and only then counting. And the state--not Democratic counties--counts and reports, with nothing being revealed until every last vote in the state has been counted. This is not hard stuff to do.

    Better is getting rid of this mail in fraud.

    Have only in person voting and on-line voting (public software everyone can check) that is secure and signed in a way that allows the voter--but only the voter--to check that his specific vote remains the vote he cast with the signed proof demonstrating any attempt at alteration/fraud. (To the system it is just a valid vote.) This again is not an undoable project. You don't like/trust the on-line thing--you vote old style in person.

    Replies: @Veracitor, @Odin

    The (then) King County WA official who stole the 2004 Washington Governor’s election for the Democrat Christine Gregoire is named Dean Logan. As a reward for his malfeasance he was made Election Commissioner of Los Angeles County CA, where he is still deliberately sabotaging elections on behalf of powerful Democrats, most recently Gavin Newsome:
    https://www.citywatchla.com/index.php/los-angeles/15595-la-vote-chaos-incompetence-or-sabotage-by-least-qualified-election-exec


  127. Soon, the Surgeon General’s warning will be appended to his every post.

  128. @anon
    @Guy De Champlagne

    An interesting argument in favor of the electoral college

    Is found in Federalist #68

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federalist_No._68

    http://electoralcollegehistory.com/electoral/federalist68.asp

    There aren't any "issues"or "questions" the typical trolling shill can raise that have not already been answered.

    Replies: @Guy De Champlagne

    I just read federalist paper #68 to spite you and I am happy to report that you are wrong. Unless you interpret Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption broadly enough to mean what I said.

  129. @anon
    @Stan Adams

    That's the great Uncle Walter? That's the guy everyone believed no matter what he said?

    wow.

    Is there an animatron of him out at Disneyland? Should be.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Is there an animatron of him out at Disneyland? Should be.

    Yes, in the same underground vault where they keep Walt’s cryogenically-frozen corpse.

  130. Anonymous[383] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    Mr. White was dismayed at first. No bias there, huh? I suppose these political reports have been biased one way or another since Day 1, but a difference is that nowadays, they all seem to follow the same Establishment narrative. Our Establishment is hard left now, though.

    I recently read Pat Buchanan's book The Greatest Comeback about Nixon's 1968 primary and general election campaign. (See the Peak Stupidity review here.) One thing that struck me is how closely these politicians worked with newspapermen, as in, the press of the time. Mr. Buchanan had been one, as he was hired for the Nixon campaign directly from his job at a newspaper in St. Louis.

    The difference back then was that there were plenty of conservative reporters and newspaper owners. Mr. Nixon or his people would work closely with the guys that were favorable to Nixon, even sending their own versions of editorials or editing things with these newspapermen. Actually, per the book, Nixon was not so much a conservative (Reagan was too far right for him), as just a guy who wanted to get enough votes to win the election period. (Mr. Buchanan does not come out and say that in the book, as he is still loyal to Nixon, but it's the theme of the whole thing.)

    Nixon had been called a "loser" since losing both the 1960 Presidential election and the 1962 California Governorship election. That was his main concern, being a winner. He really could have gone a good bit this way or a good bit that way on the Vietnam war, civil rites, and the stand on law & order, as it was all about simply getting enough votes to be a winner.

    Then there was TV. Nixon was still recovering from an illness and had not gotten much sleep before that famous 1960 debate on TV, in which he is said to have won per radio listeners but lost per TV watchers.

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Stan Adams, @David In TN, @Kronos, @Anonymous

    If you think that the US press is egregious now, you should read what General Grant has to say about them in his civil war biography…

    In the North the press was free up to the point of open treason….

    The copperhead disreputable portion of the press magnified rebel successes, and belittled those of the Union army. It was, with a large following, an auxiliary to the Confederate army. The North would have been much stronger with a hundred thousand of these men in the Confederate ranks and the rest of their kind thoroughly subdued, as the Union sentiment was in the South, than we were as the battle was fought

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Anonymous

    Grant leaves out the part where Lincoln arrested and imprisoned numerous newspaper editors and shut down papers he didn't like. And some elected politicians. Grant airily ascribes this kind of thing to "treason" though no actual trials were held by Lincoln's thugs.

    Of course he was busy in the Army. But as usual the winners spin fables about how nice they were.

    I don't know about the South, as each state did it's own thing. There may have been places that suppressed anti Confederate viewpoints.

    War has a way of extinguishing all of those "freedoms" people claim to be fighting for.

  131. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri, @Kratoklastes, @Mike_from_SGV, @Alden, @Bill Jones, @Hangnail Hans, @AnotherDad

    A joke, surely?

    No mention of the fact that the modern tamon was invented by a White Man?

  132. @Reg Cæsar
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Isn't a backhoe essentially a mini-front-end loader with a mini-excavator bucket on the back? I read they were invented in Britain, where there is much less room to move around on tiny lots.


    Whatever they are, they are not toys for amateurs:


    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6d/aa/2e/6daa2ebfa9aa9e38b80ec71e4c44e136.jpg

    (Yes, we know that is neither a front-end loader nor a backhoe.)

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    Shame you can see the light grey tarmac under the treads.

  133. @prosa123
    @Nico

    SBC originally intended Borat to be Albanian, but decided that would be too risky because it might offend Albanian gangbangers in London.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    Albanians run London’s coke trade, and they’re starting to move into cannabis farming, previously a Vietnamese (at least at the low end – checking the crop, watering etc) speciality .

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/jan/13/kings-of-cocaine-albanian-mafia-uk-drugs-crime

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8850699/1m-Coventry-cannabis-farm-busted-police.html

    Some police officers were recently disciplined for saying inter alia that Albanians ‘should be shot or even killed with a nerve agent’. But what would Serious Crime Squad officers know about Albanians?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8855923/Members-police-gangbusting-unit-caught-calling-women-w-s-s-ts.html

  134. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Gary in Gramercy, @Almost Missouri, @Kratoklastes, @Mike_from_SGV, @Alden, @Bill Jones, @Hangnail Hans, @AnotherDad

    This is CORPORATE AMERICA SPEAKING

  135. @David In TN
    @Achmed E. Newman

    In 1968 most major newspapers would endorse the Republican candidate (Nixon included) for President. Most reporters by a healthy margin in 1968 were liberals, maybe a few conservatives.

    JFK's press secretary, Pierre Salinger, in his mid-60's book, wrote something like: "The newspaper owners were for Nixon but most reporters were for Senator Kennedy."

    Replies: @Corn

    JFK’s press secretary, Pierre Salinger, in his mid-60’s book, wrote something like: “The newspaper owners were for Nixon but most reporters were for Senator Kennedy.”

    Going forward a few years to 1968 George Wallace supposedly told a group of newspaper owners, “You and your editors will vote for Nixon, your reporters will vote for Humphrey, but your printers and truckdrivers will vote for me.”

  136. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Reg Cæsar

    This is what (possibly inebriated) Florida men are for. I love it, Reg! And that's a front end loader, man.

    Replies: @FPD72, @Bill Jones

    It’s a backhoe: see stabilizer in foreground.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bill Jones

    While writing a blog post about this humorous incident (truly a real Florida Man thing), I finally got to looking up some other pictures, because I just couldn't picture which side of the back-hoe attachment the out-riggers are on. This has got to be one of those very common combo ones, with the back-hoe on one side (the side with the outriggers or stabilizers) and a front-loader on the other. It's just obvious to me that this gentleman was using the front-loader side, as I think it would have been just a little too hard even for a white drunken redneck , err, Florida Man to be precise enough with a backhoe to dig out signs!

    Anyway, not the hill to die on here, guys. Sorry for my back-and-forth on this. I needed a full picture and didn't find one. The news reporter confused things even more, most especially with his "correction".

    Thanks, Bill, FPD72, and Reg.

  137. @Anon
    @Bugg


    By law, NY state mandates no photo ID is required for voting. NY state offers a free photo ID through DMV, but somehow requiring people to meet that minimal requirement is RAYCESS!
     
    I read an article a couple of years ago about citizens's problems with the voter ID law in their state. This was in a college town in the midwest, very liberal.

    To his great credit the journalist reported out the story by interviewing three "victims" of the law (I'm not sure how he found them ... complaints from Twitter?).

    The three were two black women and a white male grad student. One of the black women had diabetes or something that made it hard for her to go to the DMV ... but not to the polling station, apparently. So she had no driver's licence. The second woman was ditzy, but not enough to not remember to vote. She showed her bus pass, which didn't count.

    In both cases they were allowed to vote, but their ballots were held while they got ID. As long as they verified theemselves in some way within two weeks, their ballots would be counted (assuming the total number of uncounted ballots by that point could change the election results). So nobody is disenfranchised by the law.

    By the way, the law allowed several kinds of ID to be used, not just drivers licenses, maybe eight or ten different IDs. One was a student ID. This was where the grad student came in. He sort of came off like an activist who was trying to come up with some way to criticise the law. At any rate, his story was that he was an out-of-state student, from state A studying at the local state B university. He tried to vote with his student ID, but student ID must be used within the school term, and it was summer. His drivers license was out of state. So he actually could not vote.

    This is not a bug. It's a feature. You cannot vote in two states. He had IDs that potentially would have allowed him to vote in two places. You are supposed to change your drivers license when your domicile (as legally defined) changes. He didn't. Nevertheless, had school been in term, his school ID would have allowed him to vote in state B. This is a very loose system, since his drivers license still allowed him to vote in state A. So he has nothing to complain about. He did not have the correct drivers license for his claimed state B domicile, and if he considered state A his domicile he could have voted by absentee ballot, even if it really wasn't his domicile.

    This video is probably edited to make voter ID laws look maximally stupid, but it contrasts white progressives worrying about helpless black people, while black people are offened that a white person would think they aren't together enough to get a drivers licenses, and they don't know of any black person who doesn't have one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrBxZGWCdgs

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Bugg

    NY state has another issue with drivers licenses identification. Because NY state resident auto insurance is so high(thanks, tort lawyers!), lots of NYers fraudulently register their cars out of state. This is almost prevalent in The Hood; tons of cars with exotic plates from down south states. Know of one ne’er do well guy that figured out NY state police computers did not interface with Canadian provinces, voila, he had Ontario plates. In fairness, in Staten Island, know of many Italian guys who pull the same trick and have Florida or PA plates. The insurance industry has tried to make that a crime, but the bill dies every year in the state legislature. So we have legions of NY residents who do not have NY state drivers licenses.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Bugg

    As an election worker I can tell you that college students are the biggest headache -- gee, do I vote here or up at SUNY-Bilgewater, or hopefully both? Followed by women who don't remember which last name they might be registered under. And then people (usually women) with hyphenated last names who don't recall which version of the name they might be registered under.

  138. @Bugg
    @Anon

    NY state has another issue with drivers licenses identification. Because NY state resident auto insurance is so high(thanks, tort lawyers!), lots of NYers fraudulently register their cars out of state. This is almost prevalent in The Hood; tons of cars with exotic plates from down south states. Know of one ne'er do well guy that figured out NY state police computers did not interface with Canadian provinces, voila, he had Ontario plates. In fairness, in Staten Island, know of many Italian guys who pull the same trick and have Florida or PA plates. The insurance industry has tried to make that a crime, but the bill dies every year in the state legislature. So we have legions of NY residents who do not have NY state drivers licenses.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    As an election worker I can tell you that college students are the biggest headache — gee, do I vote here or up at SUNY-Bilgewater, or hopefully both? Followed by women who don’t remember which last name they might be registered under. And then people (usually women) with hyphenated last names who don’t recall which version of the name they might be registered under.

  139. @Anonymous
    Biden. Will. Not. Win.

    It's Kerry 04 Dole 96 Mondale 84 all over again.

    YOU CAN'T BEAT AN INCUMBENT POTUS WITH A FREAKING SENATOR.

    Hasn't happened since 1888. And Sen Benjamin Harrison won a 3-way race.

    The only chance Biden ever had of winning the presidency was running against another senator.

    Biden is fading in the homestretch. He will limp over the finish and lose all of the late decider votes --- just like the other old failures that come out of the senate to "give it on last try" to get elected prez...

    Watch the delusional Biden lose MN NM NH etc. That's in addition to all of the core battlegrounds.

    He was always a dishonest boob politician and now he's going down hard for his final embarrassment.

    "Sad!"

    Btw I'm not a Trump fan.

    Replies: @Known Fact

    YOU CAN’T BEAT AN INCUMBENT POTUS WITH A FREAKING SENATOR.

    Kerry did come close but you’re basically right and it brings up my pet point — being a US Senator is NOT any kind of qualification to be president. Aside from the fund-raising, grifting and insider front-running, all they do is talk, and the body was designed precisely with a bias against action. A mayor, governor or a businessman has actually run something, made a payroll, met a budget. Elect a senator and you get Obama.

    Eight years experience as Vice President might be useful — say a functional intellect such as Pence noting what Trump did well and what he screwed up — but in Biden’s case I doubt it.

  140. Anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:

    Thinking of the “Hunter Biden travesty” rollout strategy. I know rolling it out a bit at a time allows for the dumber voters to have a chance to assimilate it, but early voting is a problem. Some states make allowances for voter remorse, and some don’t. By that measure, the more, the sooner, the better.

    Then there’s the “Hunter Suicide Factor.” That is, if too much too soon is dumped, Hunter is well established as a “poor me” personality, certainly self-destructive, and we know where that can lead. Will too much too soon have Hunter driving off the cliffs of Malibu?

    Along a darker narrative, could some of the people he’s connected with panic and help him along to his early demise? Dumping a ton of info at once could certainly heighten people with power going into panic mode, looking to eliminate the source of their problem, where a slower rollout allows them to think more about “the long game” and leave the assisting Hunter Biden’s early demise off the table.

    Bottom line, we don’t need Hunter freed from this mortal coil before Trump’s re-election is determined, and he’s proving to be a comically loose cannon. A lot, or a little, can set him off. Hard to tell how much could set off his “business associates.”

    It’s a tough call for strategizers.

  141. @I, Libertine
    @LondonBob

    Johnson earned the nickname "Landslide Lyndon" by winning his first Senatorial race by 87 votes. His adversary, outgoing Governor Coke Stevenson, appeared to have the 1948 Democratic primary won by the narrowest of margins. In those days, victory in a Democrat primary in Texas was tantamount to election. But 200 additional votes from one district arrived at the end of the vote-counting, and put Johnson over the top. Funny thing was - all 200 voters used the same pen to sign in at the polling place, and they showed up in alphabetical order. No mail-in ballots back then.

    Of course, the ensuing dispute went all the the the U.S. Supreme Court, and resulted in ruling that federal courts can't interfere with state party primary elections, handing LBJ the Senate seat.

    Who knows how those 200 "votes" changed history? LBJ never replaces JFK as president without them, for a variety of obvious reasons. The last in that long chain of events: Kennedy doesn't visit LBJ's home state in November 1963, and doesn't get his head blown off there - even if you believe . . . you know what. Is the Viet Nam War as protracted, costly and divisive? Do liberals push the Great Society through Congress without his masterful control of the levers of power? What about that 1965 immigration reform?

    I love alternate history.

    Replies: @Excal, @Paul Rise

    I interviewed Robert Caro years ago, and he said he had some interesting tidbits to share about the 1960 election in the final book of his LBJ.

    My guess is this has to do with LBJ and maybe JFKs sexual hijinks during that campaign. But it might involve some facet of the stolen election.

    For example – if LBJ was shtupping the wife of an organized crime figure who produced a lot of hinky votes in 1960, that would not have made it into the last book per other things Caro has said.

  142. @Peterike
    @J.Ross

    “ Which makes it all the more wierdly-elderly-Jewish-badass what Sanders did to Biden.”

    What did he do other than take his latest bribe and slip quietly away, like he planned all along? Grifters gonna grift.

    No seriously, what did he do?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    My bad, this was an audio clip from when he was still a candidate, and I misheard it as recent. Of course you’re right: Sanders would never confront Biden now. It would validate his credibility if he did though.

  143. @John Milton’s Ghost
    @TomSchmidt

    I’m in a deep red state, but my precinct, near the local university, is slightly blue, having just edged for Hillary by a handful of votes. Until recently the only presidential signs were for Biden, a dozen to nothing. A handful of homes had down ticket signs for Republican candidates such as state legislators. In the last week a half dozen Trump signs have appeared. Lots of variables at play but it’s pretty clear many places that Trump supporters are less willing to risk their property for the yard sign. Don’t know if that translates to polls, as some speculate

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Until recently the only presidential signs were for Biden, a dozen to nothing.

    A college town I visit often has a surprising number of Trump signs. Not quite as many as Biden ones, but a good response to them. (They are thicker in the Wakanda vicinity, interestingly.) This may be a town/gown thing. I grew up in a similar place, as a townie.

    There is a significant minority of Biden signs in the surrounding countryside as well. (Who kn0ws, they may be commuting profs or librarians.) It’s not as politically segregated as major urban areas, and disagreement comes without animosity. Their county has gone with the winner in a long string of elections.

    Some punk went around town with a can of orange spray paint defacing Trump signs. Moron– that just makes them more visible!

    On our recent trip west, we saw few presidential signs, but many for local office. Perhaps because you have to make a donation to get one, and the presidential race is a done deal in those states. Why bother?

  144. @Anonymous
    With more fires hitting California, Rubio's Mexican food going bankrupt, along with Governor Newsom announcing his crazy 'Wear a mask between bites of turkey'

    Isn't obvious that the Democrats are trying to run the poor/lower middle class/minorities out of their states?

    We're looking at this all wrong...

    Killing minorities in NYC via nursing homes...feature not a bug

    Harassing minorities in Los Angeles for having large family get togethers....feature not a bug

    Killing all the restaurants (and other businesses) that serve the lower and middle classes...hispanic and otherwise---feature not a bug

    Can anyone detail the economic cost on the hispanic population in L.A.? Say what you will about illegal immigration, but Hispanics first got screwed with NAFTA, and now Democrat Newsom.

    They can blame Trump and get people to leave the state. Trump should call up some hispanic community leaders (real ones) and get the 411 on what is happening to people in California.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @J.Ross

    I would totally agree that the Democrats hate class mobility, and working, lower middle, and probably middle class whites, and actively make their lives harder, possibly with a view to stochastic gerrymandering. Could such efforts work on minorities? Don’t minorities suffer in lieu of moving? It takes money and distant job prospects to move. Minorities expect life to be hard. Furthermore, as is demonstrated in disproportionate infection and numerous block parties, these efforts cannot have affected them because they don’t follow any rules.

  145. @AnotherDad
    @The Alarmist


    Fortunately, Illinois is so deep blue that it no longer matters. Texas is again a problem.
     
    Texas isn't the problem. Pennsylvania is the big problem, and maybe Michigan or Wisconsin. Trump needs at least one of the three.

    The Democrats--in King County--probably stole the 2004 Washington governor's election. On the third or fourth try they miraculously found a new batch of de-enveloped but "mislaid" ballots which flipped it from Dino Rossi to Christine Gregoire. It was the classic scenario Steve recounts from 1960--after a couple recounts they knew the number they had to come up with ... and came up with it.

    Republicans are absolute fools for allowing this scenario to exist. This mail-in thing is ripe for fraud. Republicans need to lock in a system--with hard legal stops--that every last ballot that is legitimate to count, must be turned in and locked down ... and only then counting. And the state--not Democratic counties--counts and reports, with nothing being revealed until every last vote in the state has been counted. This is not hard stuff to do.

    Better is getting rid of this mail in fraud.

    Have only in person voting and on-line voting (public software everyone can check) that is secure and signed in a way that allows the voter--but only the voter--to check that his specific vote remains the vote he cast with the signed proof demonstrating any attempt at alteration/fraud. (To the system it is just a valid vote.) This again is not an undoable project. You don't like/trust the on-line thing--you vote old style in person.

    Replies: @Veracitor, @Odin

    Republicans need to lock in a system–with hard legal stops–that every last ballot that is legitimate to count, must be turned in and locked down … and only then counting.

    Query from a bemused Canadian:

    How come the U.S. election system allows so much corruption? Is there a flaw in the system that the Framers laid down? In practical terms (actual laws / amendments) is there anything that can be cone about it?

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Odin


    Query from a bemused Canadian:

    How come the U.S. election system allows so much corruption?
     
    Corruption isn't "allowed" but it is a byproduct of single party dominance.

    Parliamentary systems have corruption too, (i.e. Canada, etc.) but it is done openly by "horse trading" votes after parties are determined via seats they hold. Here the system gravitates to two parties which is enforced by legal squashing of new ones, usually. So corruption is more hidden.

    I suspect in Canadian cities and local counties (whatever they are called) dominated by long time single party rule, you'll have similar levels of corruption. Though the British inheritance of opposing bribery is another factor. Cities and states in the US long ruled by a single party are always far more corrupt than other places.

    Also, places with N. European populations, as opposed to Hispanic or black ones, often are less corrupt. Racial subgroups rely on corruption to achieve political office and influence.

    You look hard enough, Canada has it too.

    Replies: @Odin

  146. @Guy De Champlagne
    An interesting argument in favor of the electoral college is that it removes the incentive to ballot stuff in the deep red and deep blue states where extensive single party control would make it the biggest problem. With the electoral college it's only a big problem in the highly democratic and republican areas within swing states, which would to some extent cancel each other out since a swing state sorta needs to have one if it has the other.

    So everyone here thinks the 2020 ballot counting is going to be a weeks long shit show?

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Paul Jolliffe, @anon, @Travis

    I agree, the electoral college offers many benefits. Also reduces my exposure to political Ads, living in the NY metro area. While my Mother in PA is now being bombarded with political commercials.

    Counting the votes becomes a waste of time in most states, thanks to the electoral college, thus cheating is pointless in states like NY and NJ. Nothing to gain by changing the vote totals by 2%.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Travis


    Counting the votes becomes a waste of time in most states, thanks to the electoral college, thus cheating is pointless in states like NY and NJ.
     
    That may be true for the Presidential race, but don't underestimate the importance of down-ballot races and the effect that Dem chicanery might have on these. Cuomo was not fully able to run wild in NY until the GOP recently lost its slim hold on one of the two state legislatures.
    , @Guy De Champlagne
    @Travis

    I'm not in favor of the electoral college. And I don't believe for a second very many people here would be in favor of it if it didnt benefit "their team". The best that can be said of it is that it's maybe delaying some inevitable negative political realities.

    If the electoral college is the only method we ever ever could have thought of to root out electoral fraud then were doomed all along anyway.

  147. @theMann
    Countries as corrupt as India and Mexico can run relatively clean elections, but the USA can't, and never has.


    This message approve by President Tilden.

    Replies: @Corn, @epebble

    India has a parliamentary style democracy, so there is no winner-take-all Flight 93 excitement over elections. The horse trading takes place after the elections (in the parliament, to form a government).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @epebble


    India has a parliamentary style democracy, so there is no winner-take-all Flight 93 excitement over elections. The horse trading takes place after the elections (in the parliament, to form a government).
     
    We haven't had a "horse trading" election since 1876, and that happened because several states sent competing slates of electors which Congress had to choose from. Had it gone the other way, it would be just as legitimate to say Hayes was cheated and Tilden was the crook. Both sides deserved to lose, as in several recent elections.

    Tilden is, at any rate, the only candidate to receive a majority of the "popular vote" and lose the election. Colorado didn't even hold a popular vote; the legislature chose the electors. (They were just admitted to the union and weren't quite ready.)

    The horse trading takes place after the elections (in the parliament, to form a government)
     
    That's what happened in 1824, and has been unfairly derided as a "corrupt bargain". But it was just a majority coalition ganging up on the plurality winner. I bet you could recite several instances of that off the top of your head.

    The general-ticket, or "winner-take-all", system won out by Darwinian selection. States were (and still are) free to appoint electors any way they wished. Many back then preferred the district system used by Maine and Nebraska today, but that only works if you force everyone else to do it. That ain't agonna happen. General ticket is the ticket.

    As far as "runner-up" presidents go, this happens all the time in parliamentary systems. Justin Trudeau lost the "popular vote" last year, and I don't see many American progressives dissing him. It will be great fun to diss them should Trump win it next week.
  148. Speaking of college towns, I hear that SUNY students supposedly won’t be allowed to go home for Thanksgiving unless they COVID-test negative. Isn’t that, like, kidnapping? False imprisonment?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Known Fact

    Yes. Time for some students to test it out.

  149. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Hispanics have been infected with coronavirus at about twice the rate of blacks in California.

    Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    “Hispanics have been infected with coronavirus at about twice the rate of blacks in California.”

    Because mexicans on average live with more people. Recent CDC report comparing C19-positive and C19-negative groups revealed that facediapers accomplish nothing and the biggest difference between the two groups was living in the same household as someone who was C19-positive.

    80% of the C19-poz group lived with someone who was also poz.

    Only 20% of C19-neg group lived with someone who was poz.

    Viz: if you live with more people, the odds increase you live with someone who is poz.

    Both groups diapered up ‘always’ or ‘usually’ 85% of the time.

    Facediapers are ineffective. But, then again, this has been known for decades and was conveniently forgotten because our President was cruising to sure victory on the strength of His economic miracle.

  150. @Travis
    @Guy De Champlagne

    I agree, the electoral college offers many benefits. Also reduces my exposure to political Ads, living in the NY metro area. While my Mother in PA is now being bombarded with political commercials.

    Counting the votes becomes a waste of time in most states, thanks to the electoral college, thus cheating is pointless in states like NY and NJ. Nothing to gain by changing the vote totals by 2%.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Guy De Champlagne

    Counting the votes becomes a waste of time in most states, thanks to the electoral college, thus cheating is pointless in states like NY and NJ.

    That may be true for the Presidential race, but don’t underestimate the importance of down-ballot races and the effect that Dem chicanery might have on these. Cuomo was not fully able to run wild in NY until the GOP recently lost its slim hold on one of the two state legislatures.

  151. @AnotherDad
    @theMann


    If ever there was an election where winning is losing, this is it. Who ever wins gets to deal with the Economy, Civil Unrest, a furthering of CoronaFraud , and quite possibly catastrophic food shortages across much of the Northern hemisphere. Oh, and the massive revenue shortfalls across the spectrum when people can’t pay their property taxes, on top of the 30% shortfall in Sales Taxes.
     
    Where do you get this stuff?

    Democratic governors tanked their states economies:
    -- because they need to "do" something, exercising government power is "who they are"
    -- to screw the economy and ergo Trump
    -- to punish small business not on board

    The 2nd quarter was the worse quarterly drop in the economy--i believe--in my life.

    But now the economy is bouncing back strongly. If Trump is elected the surge will continue.

    But even if Biden is elected, he doesn't want a lingering recession it will be pedal to the metal on stimulus bailing out all the Democrat cities and states. And then--you can take it to the bank--suddenly they will discover that this covid thing isn't the end of the world. The vaccines work. New therapies work. "New data" shows it's not a big deal for 95% of folks.

    ~~

    And seriously "catastrophic food shortages?" huh? Trust me farmers weren't too scared to get into the field to plant or harvest. They got their crop in fine.

    Replies: @theMann

    https://agfax.com/2020/10/13/corn-soybeans-smaller-supply-forecast-as-derecho-harvest-impact-grows/

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-15/2020-global-wine-harvest-report-california-france-italy-oregon-and-more

    https://www.capitalpress.com/state/oregon/columbia-basin-farmers-finish-harvesting-potato-crop-after-tumultuous-spring/article_4f057c80-13c7-11eb-a57f-bb4898c9b9c5.html

    Easy to criticize, but since you are already on the Internet maybe you could look up a few facts for yourselves.

    1. Smaller harvest across the Northern hemisphere – pick the product. (Try pork for starters.)

    2. Disruptions in the supply chain. Fewer products reach markets. More farms, and food processing centers, going bankrupt.

    3. Most countries much worse of than the USA. Weather and locusts, lack of workers due to Covid restrictions.

    4. All of this is deliberately designed. Even a small reduction in nutrition leads to a significant increase in disease. Blame on Covid (Mutations) and ratchet up the Police State.

    Of course, you can always try the evidence of your own eyes – grocery store prices going up, Produce quality rapidly declining. Not to mention food banks country-wide running out of items.

    And there is always this:

    https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/03/21/coronavirus-governor-orders-state-national-guard-to-help-california-food-banks/

    I could quote 49 more headlines, or you could get off your ass and do your own research.

  152. @Known Fact
    Speaking of college towns, I hear that SUNY students supposedly won't be allowed to go home for Thanksgiving unless they COVID-test negative. Isn't that, like, kidnapping? False imprisonment?

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Yes. Time for some students to test it out.

  153. @Travis
    @Guy De Champlagne

    I agree, the electoral college offers many benefits. Also reduces my exposure to political Ads, living in the NY metro area. While my Mother in PA is now being bombarded with political commercials.

    Counting the votes becomes a waste of time in most states, thanks to the electoral college, thus cheating is pointless in states like NY and NJ. Nothing to gain by changing the vote totals by 2%.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Guy De Champlagne

    I’m not in favor of the electoral college. And I don’t believe for a second very many people here would be in favor of it if it didnt benefit “their team”. The best that can be said of it is that it’s maybe delaying some inevitable negative political realities.

    If the electoral college is the only method we ever ever could have thought of to root out electoral fraud then were doomed all along anyway.

  154. @Anonymous
    Senators don't beat POTUS incumbents and old senators get creamed:

    Trip Gabriel @tripgabriel 22h Some concerns for Biden in PA polling, including in Philly, where he’s running 10 points behind Hillary Clinton’s support in 2016 and Trump is ~9 points ahead of where he was four years ago. Via ⁦@GioRussonello⁩ https://nytimes.com/2020/10/25/us/...

    Nothing can save an old senator except to run against another senator. And no it doesn't help to be VP.

    The autopsy on the 2020 Biden campaign will be painful. But Bannon just reminded his audience that Sen. JillJoe finished 4th in Iowa and 5th in New Hampshire. The writing was on the wall.

    What was the real point of JillJoe's campaign? BLOCK BERNIE SANDERS.

    Mission accomplished, Bidenists.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Anon, @David In TN

    A former VP who had lost a previous presidential election and a governor’s race was elected POTUS in 1968.

  155. @Reg Cæsar
    @Matra


    Back in the 1990s one of the paleocons – maybe Clyde Wilson? – said Nixon’s refusal to challenge the election result and instead be the good sport pushover for the sake of unity and stability set the standard for conservative loserdom ever since.
     
    He certainly knew the true nature of Democrats, considering where he was from.

    Replies: @David In TN

    Clyde Wilson (from what I can tell from his writings) grew up as a Deep South Democrat and was for George Wallace in 1968. I think he was born in 1941. Wilson still criticizes Republicans more than Democrats. He recently wrote a piece at a blog called “Reckonin” called “Trump Is Not the Fighter We Need.”

  156. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Almost Missouri

    Yes, excellent analysis, AM.

    The Pennsylvania SC ruling is a killer. Without PA, it's hard to see Trump winning, and that ruling likely seals the deal for Biden. Is there any way three days' worth of vote-count-massaging in that state won't come out in favor of the Dems?

    People here in HK are genuinely bewildered by US voting protocols. They can't process the reality, since here, as in most countries, there's no such thing as early voting, mail-in voting, ID-free voting, etc. You go to the polls on election day, you sign in with a photo ID, and you vote manually (no machines whatsoever) on ballots that are essentially impossible to miscount (you use a chop to make a huge check mark next to the candidate you're voting for on a large-print paper ballot form). Results come out the next morning. I can't ever recall even a recount being needed.

    Conducting clean elections is definitely possible, but it's obviously not something that TPPB in the USA want anymore, if they ever did.

    Replies: @Muggles

    People here in HK are genuinely bewildered by US voting protocols

    Yes, people here are too.

    But Hong Kong is tiny compared to the US. We have 100+ million potential votes scattered over 50 states plus a few assorted territories.

    Each state has it’s own voting laws too. The Feds over time due to mostly bad Supreme Court rulings have outlawed most of the sane requirements HK has. ID’s are iffy, and while nearly all adults have Social Security numbers (required for employment) there is a specific terrible court ruling making use of them illegal for voting purposes.

    You have to prove US citizenship to have a SS identity card. Guess who didn’t like that rule?

    Hong Kong is about the same size as say, Philadelphia. Rules were set up originally there by British government. Here it is much more difficult to have rational rules for voting. Also too big to compare w/ HK.

  157. @Anonymous
    @Achmed E. Newman

    If you think that the US press is egregious now, you should read what General Grant has to say about them in his civil war biography...


    In the North the press was free up to the point of open treason....
     

    The copperhead disreputable portion of the press magnified rebel successes, and belittled those of the Union army. It was, with a large following, an auxiliary to the Confederate army. The North would have been much stronger with a hundred thousand of these men in the Confederate ranks and the rest of their kind thoroughly subdued, as the Union sentiment was in the South, than we were as the battle was fought
     

    Replies: @Muggles

    Grant leaves out the part where Lincoln arrested and imprisoned numerous newspaper editors and shut down papers he didn’t like. And some elected politicians. Grant airily ascribes this kind of thing to “treason” though no actual trials were held by Lincoln’s thugs.

    Of course he was busy in the Army. But as usual the winners spin fables about how nice they were.

    I don’t know about the South, as each state did it’s own thing. There may have been places that suppressed anti Confederate viewpoints.

    War has a way of extinguishing all of those “freedoms” people claim to be fighting for.

  158. @Odin
    @AnotherDad


    Republicans need to lock in a system–with hard legal stops–that every last ballot that is legitimate to count, must be turned in and locked down … and only then counting.
     
    Query from a bemused Canadian:

    How come the U.S. election system allows so much corruption? Is there a flaw in the system that the Framers laid down? In practical terms (actual laws / amendments) is there anything that can be cone about it?

    Replies: @Muggles

    Query from a bemused Canadian:

    How come the U.S. election system allows so much corruption?

    Corruption isn’t “allowed” but it is a byproduct of single party dominance.

    Parliamentary systems have corruption too, (i.e. Canada, etc.) but it is done openly by “horse trading” votes after parties are determined via seats they hold. Here the system gravitates to two parties which is enforced by legal squashing of new ones, usually. So corruption is more hidden.

    I suspect in Canadian cities and local counties (whatever they are called) dominated by long time single party rule, you’ll have similar levels of corruption. Though the British inheritance of opposing bribery is another factor. Cities and states in the US long ruled by a single party are always far more corrupt than other places.

    Also, places with N. European populations, as opposed to Hispanic or black ones, often are less corrupt. Racial subgroups rely on corruption to achieve political office and influence.

    You look hard enough, Canada has it too.

    • Replies: @Odin
    @Muggles

    Not saying Canada is free of corruption: far from it. I'm just not aware of much ballot-box stuffing.

    In the U.S. it seems that the party running a county has often been unobstructed in its election malfeasance, including creation of ballots after election day. As you say, this is doubtless connected to single-party rule; I suspect the relationship runs both ways.

    I'm just puzzled that a country that was born in the careful design of checks and balances, and of ambition countering ambition, seems so open to this kind of behaviour.

  159. • LOL: GeneralRipper
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I like both of these, Bardon. Thanks!

  160. @Paul Jolliffe
    @Guy De Champlagne

    Yes, I think the ballot counting will be a weeks long shit show.

    A positive though: Hillary Clinton announced that a Trump victory would “cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    You know, I’d almost pay to watch her get “cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    A Pay-per-View event opportunity, maybe?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wfla.com/news/politics/hillary-clinton-thought-of-trump-winning-again-makes-me-literally-sick-to-my-stomach/amp/

    Replies: @anon, @Reg Cæsar

    A positive though: Hillary Clinton announced that a Trump victory would “cause cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    You know, I’d almost pay to watch her get “cognitive dissonance of a grave degree.”

    A Pay-per-View event opportunity, maybe?

    How do you insert an accent grave onto a degree symbol? Is there Unicode for that?

    Anyway, don’t miss Tokata Iron Eyes, coming up in the next hour. With her popular friends Gloria Steinem, Jodi Kantor, Natalie Portman, Linda Sarsour, and Tina Tchen, who could pass for one of Tokatas tribesmen.

    NOT DONE: Women Remaking America
    TONIGHT, October 27 at 8/7C on PBS

  161. @Bardon Kaldian
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1321195996416651264

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    I like both of these, Bardon. Thanks!

  162. @Muggles
    @Odin


    Query from a bemused Canadian:

    How come the U.S. election system allows so much corruption?
     
    Corruption isn't "allowed" but it is a byproduct of single party dominance.

    Parliamentary systems have corruption too, (i.e. Canada, etc.) but it is done openly by "horse trading" votes after parties are determined via seats they hold. Here the system gravitates to two parties which is enforced by legal squashing of new ones, usually. So corruption is more hidden.

    I suspect in Canadian cities and local counties (whatever they are called) dominated by long time single party rule, you'll have similar levels of corruption. Though the British inheritance of opposing bribery is another factor. Cities and states in the US long ruled by a single party are always far more corrupt than other places.

    Also, places with N. European populations, as opposed to Hispanic or black ones, often are less corrupt. Racial subgroups rely on corruption to achieve political office and influence.

    You look hard enough, Canada has it too.

    Replies: @Odin

    Not saying Canada is free of corruption: far from it. I’m just not aware of much ballot-box stuffing.

    In the U.S. it seems that the party running a county has often been unobstructed in its election malfeasance, including creation of ballots after election day. As you say, this is doubtless connected to single-party rule; I suspect the relationship runs both ways.

    I’m just puzzled that a country that was born in the careful design of checks and balances, and of ambition countering ambition, seems so open to this kind of behaviour.

  163. @epebble
    @theMann

    India has a parliamentary style democracy, so there is no winner-take-all Flight 93 excitement over elections. The horse trading takes place after the elections (in the parliament, to form a government).

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    India has a parliamentary style democracy, so there is no winner-take-all Flight 93 excitement over elections. The horse trading takes place after the elections (in the parliament, to form a government).

    We haven’t had a “horse trading” election since 1876, and that happened because several states sent competing slates of electors which Congress had to choose from. Had it gone the other way, it would be just as legitimate to say Hayes was cheated and Tilden was the crook. Both sides deserved to lose, as in several recent elections.

    Tilden is, at any rate, the only candidate to receive a majority of the “popular vote” and lose the election. Colorado didn’t even hold a popular vote; the legislature chose the electors. (They were just admitted to the union and weren’t quite ready.)

    The horse trading takes place after the elections (in the parliament, to form a government)

    That’s what happened in 1824, and has been unfairly derided as a “corrupt bargain”. But it was just a majority coalition ganging up on the plurality winner. I bet you could recite several instances of that off the top of your head.

    The general-ticket, or “winner-take-all”, system won out by Darwinian selection. States were (and still are) free to appoint electors any way they wished. Many back then preferred the district system used by Maine and Nebraska today, but that only works if you force everyone else to do it. That ain’t agonna happen. General ticket is the ticket.

    As far as “runner-up” presidents go, this happens all the time in parliamentary systems. Justin Trudeau lost the “popular vote” last year, and I don’t see many American progressives dissing him. It will be great fun to diss them should Trump win it next week.

  164. @Bill Jones
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It's a backhoe: see stabilizer in foreground.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    While writing a blog post about this humorous incident (truly a real Florida Man thing), I finally got to looking up some other pictures, because I just couldn’t picture which side of the back-hoe attachment the out-riggers are on. This has got to be one of those very common combo ones, with the back-hoe on one side (the side with the outriggers or stabilizers) and a front-loader on the other. It’s just obvious to me that this gentleman was using the front-loader side, as I think it would have been just a little too hard even for a white drunken redneck , err, Florida Man to be precise enough with a backhoe to dig out signs!

    Anyway, not the hill to die on here, guys. Sorry for my back-and-forth on this. I needed a full picture and didn’t find one. The news reporter confused things even more, most especially with his “correction”.

    Thanks, Bill, FPD72, and Reg.

  165. @hhsiii
    @Neil Templeton

    Unfamiliar with Caro? Well, he’s really just written 2 huge biographies.

    Replies: @donut

    That Commie took me hostage with his Bio of Robert Moses at 1100+ pages and I swore it would never happen again and then I watched his interviews with Brian Lamb and next thing I knew I was three volumes into his Bio of LBJ .

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?305534-1/qa-robert-caro-part-1

    Be careful the first dose is free .

    • LOL: hhsiii
    • Replies: @donut
    @donut

    Hey ! The best part of that interview is at 20min 57 sec. when Caro asks Lamb if he is going on too long .

    , @donut
    @donut

    And Johnson later betrayed Sam Rayburn . He was a treacherous f**k .

    , @donut
    @donut

    Nowadays we all live on the outskirts of hope . Thanks to (( ))

  166. @donut
    @hhsiii

    That Commie took me hostage with his Bio of Robert Moses at 1100+ pages and I swore it would never happen again and then I watched his interviews with Brian Lamb and next thing I knew I was three volumes into his Bio of LBJ .

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?305534-1/qa-robert-caro-part-1

    Be careful the first dose is free .

    Replies: @donut, @donut, @donut

    Hey ! The best part of that interview is at 20min 57 sec. when Caro asks Lamb if he is going on too long .

    • LOL: hhsiii
  167. @donut
    @hhsiii

    That Commie took me hostage with his Bio of Robert Moses at 1100+ pages and I swore it would never happen again and then I watched his interviews with Brian Lamb and next thing I knew I was three volumes into his Bio of LBJ .

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?305534-1/qa-robert-caro-part-1

    Be careful the first dose is free .

    Replies: @donut, @donut, @donut

    And Johnson later betrayed Sam Rayburn . He was a treacherous f**k .

  168. I remember your outstanding columns on exit poll results, etc. following the 2012 and 2016 Elections. Are you doing on in November?

    Best Wishes,

    Dave Levine

  169. @Polistra
    OT. Science FACTS. Diversity FACTS.

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/25/17/34822354-8877425-image-a-6_1603648129069.jpg

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    Leftists love ugliness.

  170. @donut
    @hhsiii

    That Commie took me hostage with his Bio of Robert Moses at 1100+ pages and I swore it would never happen again and then I watched his interviews with Brian Lamb and next thing I knew I was three volumes into his Bio of LBJ .

    https://www.c-span.org/video/?305534-1/qa-robert-caro-part-1

    Be careful the first dose is free .

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    Nowadays we all live on the outskirts of hope . Thanks to (( ))

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