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As part of my obsession with being the real time historian of the 2020s, the huge increase in African American Deaths of Exuberance (murders and car crashes) in the spring of 2020 sure looks primarily like the effects of depolicing in the wake of George Floyd’s demise, according to this CDC data by week.
Coming up on three years into the “racial reckoning” after George Floyd’s death 35 months ago on May 25, 2020, it looks like we are up to at least an incremental 15,000 black deaths due to homicides and traffic fatalities over the 2018-2019 trend line. That would be twice all the black deaths in the Vietnam War and four times the black deaths due to all the lynchings in American history.
I haven’t looked into it closely, but incremental nonblack deaths are likely not insignificant either.
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Unexpected twist: BLM was actually covertly sponsored by White Supremacists!
By the way Tucker Carlson just got sacked from Fox for his lying and indecency.
Die angry racist.Replies: @VinnyVette, @Rocko
Historian of the 20s?
You seem to have missed the 2010s when US got toppled from No 1 spot in the world.
MAGAgain called it exactly right in 2016 (though Trump failed).
Much of the weird stuff the US does is best explained as the wild throes of a dying empire than of a still thinking empire that wants to stay on top.
EG – Wokeness (or the distraction from the 70% unequal part of the society by affirmative action to 1% or 2%).
Provoking war with Russia AND doing the same with China!!
Killing the Golden Goose – taking $300 billion from Russia (as well as UK stealing Venezuela Gold reserves) means the US $ is threatened as the reserve currency – madness.
Government action based on creating perceptions instead of realities.
The continuation of an 18% of GDP health system that delivers less than 11% does in Europe (forget the MIC which steals about 1% of GDP, health steals about 6%).
But still pretending US is safe because of the massive investment in weapons when quite frankly the stuff is crap, Russia leads teh world in the most important tech – missiles, and China is already ahead of US in Hypersonics (making aircraft carriers about the world quite redundant).
Maybe people want to add to the list.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/why-are-americans-dying-so-young/#comment-5893232Replies: @Pixo
And, by the way, the real serious threat to aircraft carriers (and all surface vessels) is submarines.Replies: @kaganovitch
The urban black funeral industry would be an interesting subject for a documentary. I wonder if they donated heavily to the Brandon Johnson campaign.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pazj7Vo-wkReplies: @Reg Cæsar
I want to make sure I am not imagining things here.
Is it me, or should this make us want to support the Woke Left?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That’s way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do.
White wigger nationalists have been entertaining fantasy thoughts of ending immigration and deporting blacks “back to Africa” since the dawn of the internet. They have accomplished nothing and are still just whining on the internet all day.
Meanwhile the Mighty Left has enabled 15,000 blscks to kill themselves while SILMULTANEOUSLY reducing taxes by cuts to police budgets. The White population has not been meaningfully impacted by this at all.
AND, the Republicans are working to ban abortion in the South which shall surely increase the number of black children born, mostly to the most wretched black women.
Guys, what is going on here? It’s almost as if we’re living in the Twilight Zone where up is down and left is right. The people who openly despise blacks and taxes are foolishly advocating for political platforms that will shelter and increase the black population while costing us more in taxes. The people who claim to love blacks and hate whites push policies that will kill them and put more money in white people’s pockets.
Which side is going to wake up and join the other first? That is the question?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That’s way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do."
Correct me if I'm wrong but I think what you really mean is that maybe we should support the Woke Left's results, not their intentions.
As far as I can tell, they hate us, wish only ill on us and are working against us. But all their energy and efforts have mainly worked against blacks not against conservative whites.
So maybe we should continue to object to Woke Left aims so they continue implementing Woke Left policies.
I suppose one could make a Stalin-esque argument that since there are more non-blacks than blacks, non-blacks can keep up this grisly trade-off longer than blacks can, but if Stalinism is the last best hope that the white race shall not perish from the earth, then, well, things are dire indeed.
But the bottom line is that in the same three years as the 15,000 incremental black deaths, there were something well north of 1,500,000 black births (before counting all the mixed-race births who will identify as black, the black immigrants—legal and illegal, etc.), so these incremental deaths are really just a rounding error in the big picture.Abortion has been dysgenic for every race. Maybe it will miraculously turn eugenic this year, but that's not the way to bet.Have your state and local taxes been going down? Thought not.
They're not reducing taxes. They're just taking the taxes that would have gone to the relatively rightwing police and diverted them to extremely leftwing social-work/DIE stuff.Replies: @Pixo, @Anon, @Arclight
It is entirely consistent to build a morally strong society with orderly civil life and not embrace wokeness..
One could argue it is the hallmark of classic Americana.Replies: @Kylie, @Kylie, @Anonymous
But the long run for them is the next fiscal year or the next election cycle. They'll be long gone before the odds turn against them... if indeed that time ever comes. A dying supermajority can hold out a long time against a thriving fraction.
SS, since there is no shortage of Africans in the US, don’t sweat it, dude.
You and I are not the white saviors of the blacks. That’s Ohpra’s job – the amazing black savior.
Post us a good movie review. Let’s get back to some fun distractions.
Nine shot, none seriously injured, at Dallas prom party accommodating hundreds. You don’t need to read the first names.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nine-injured-shooting-texas-high-school-prom-party-2023-04-23/
41 percent black high school, in Texas. By the way, I initially thought it was the Jasper High in Plano, which is 49 percent Asian/Pacific Islander, with comments complaining that it’s a try-hard school with too much homework. But aren’t Texas Asians the dumb kind, not the CJK kind?
OT — No link yet, because I guess Dwayne doesn’t do transcripts any more, but Hugh Hewitt’s interview with young China hand Elbridge Colby (grandson of the Watergate Colby) is a must read/listen. Money quote: [“]All the Axis Powers combined were economically smaller than us. China is a peer economy. We started WWII with the ‘Detroit Deterrent,’ the manufactueing capacity of General Motors and Ford Motor Company; that’s in China now.[“]
“We must out-produce them overwhelmingly, so that there can be no question of our ability to provide a crushing superiority of equipment in any theatre of the world war.” - Franklin Roosevelt 1941
Two years earlier, America’s military preparedness was not that of a nation expecting to go to war. In 1939, the United States Army ranked thirty-ninth in the world, possessing a cavalry force of fifty thousand and using horses to pull the artillery.
A China/US trading places?
And a bit of more good news for Uni-Country (formerally known as USA) as of just yesterday:
The San Francisco Police Department no longer requires peace officer applicants to be U.S. citizens, according to officials.
A new law written by East Bay Senator Nancy Skinner repeals the requirement for California Peace Officers to be citizens. Senate Bill 960 now allows anyone who is legally able to work in the U.S., regardless of their nationality (loyalties), to become police officers.
There are no doubt plenty of qualified/experienced Mexican cartel officers ready and willing to fill SF's open postions.
You seem to have missed the 2010s when US got toppled from No 1 spot in the world.
MAGAgain called it exactly right in 2016 (though Trump failed).
Much of the weird stuff the US does is best explained as the wild throes of a dying empire than of a still thinking empire that wants to stay on top.
EG - Wokeness (or the distraction from the 70% unequal part of the society by affirmative action to 1% or 2%).
Provoking war with Russia AND doing the same with China!!
Killing the Golden Goose - taking $300 billion from Russia (as well as UK stealing Venezuela Gold reserves) means the US $ is threatened as the reserve currency - madness.
Government action based on creating perceptions instead of realities.
The continuation of an 18% of GDP health system that delivers less than 11% does in Europe (forget the MIC which steals about 1% of GDP, health steals about 6%).
But still pretending US is safe because of the massive investment in weapons when quite frankly the stuff is crap, Russia leads teh world in the most important tech - missiles, and China is already ahead of US in Hypersonics (making aircraft carriers about the world quite redundant).
Maybe people want to add to the list.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous
Hypersonics!
Black mayhem of course has a corrosive effect on civilized society, but I really am far more interested in these white deaths — whether at the hands of blax, the vax or whatever it may be. Perhaps the manifold dooms of despair rather than “exuberance.”
As vax skeptic Alex Berenson keeps saying, all-forms mortality is still “running hot.”
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nine-injured-shooting-texas-high-school-prom-party-2023-04-23/Replies: @Known Fact, @Daniel Williams, @Anon
But if it’s Texas wouldn’t all the names be like Clem, Tex, Hoot, Buck, Slim and Sally Jo?
Russians!
https://i0.wp.com/asiatimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Sergei-Shoigu.jpgReplies: @BB753, @Anonymous
Is it me, or should this make us want to support the Woke Left?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That's way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do.
White wigger nationalists have been entertaining fantasy thoughts of ending immigration and deporting blacks "back to Africa" since the dawn of the internet. They have accomplished nothing and are still just whining on the internet all day.
Meanwhile the Mighty Left has enabled 15,000 blscks to kill themselves while SILMULTANEOUSLY reducing taxes by cuts to police budgets. The White population has not been meaningfully impacted by this at all.
AND, the Republicans are working to ban abortion in the South which shall surely increase the number of black children born, mostly to the most wretched black women.
Guys, what is going on here? It's almost as if we're living in the Twilight Zone where up is down and left is right. The people who openly despise blacks and taxes are foolishly advocating for political platforms that will shelter and increase the black population while costing us more in taxes. The people who claim to love blacks and hate whites push policies that will kill them and put more money in white people's pockets.
Which side is going to wake up and join the other first? That is the question?Replies: @Kylie, @Almost Missouri, @Thea, @Bill Jones, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Sollipsist
‘Is it me, or should this make us want to support the Woke Left?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That’s way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do.”
Correct me if I’m wrong but I think what you really mean is that maybe we should support the Woke Left’s results, not their intentions.
As far as I can tell, they hate us, wish only ill on us and are working against us. But all their energy and efforts have mainly worked against blacks not against conservative whites.
So maybe we should continue to object to Woke Left aims so they continue implementing Woke Left policies.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nine-injured-shooting-texas-high-school-prom-party-2023-04-23/Replies: @Known Fact, @Daniel Williams, @Anon
I haven’t clicked the link yet, but I’m guessing the –vious suffix appears frequently.
OT, but since Steve is slipping when it comes to covering entertainment news-
Victoria Alonso, OG FX Dept. head at MARVEL STUDIOS (i.e. basically #2 job at the biggest and most important movie industry cash machine of the last decade) and intersectional Pokémon points mechagodzilla (white-Hispanic, female, gay, vocal opponent of Florida’s Parental Rights/“Nyah Nyah Nyah Don’t Say Gay” Bill- I’ve even heard her family has associations with Argentina’s right-wing death squads but don’t quote me on that), was FIRED by DISNEY and in such an ugly fashion she is now suing the company. WINNING!
This is because the Infinity Gauntlet arc is their equivalent to Ragnarok and the Book of Revelation.
They did a good job with the casting, writing, and FX. They hit on most of the big fan service moments.
There's nowhere for Marvel to go but down.
No way! Our dangerous black felons are already 15% more effective at killing than they were when we started this crazy experiment.
We know for a fact that the Pentagon has been shovelling funding into young-Jewish-chicks-with-problematic-glasses’s Twitter accounts. Using their buzzwords and jargon from the social sciences to aim the weapon, we can now point our blacks at any foe and they become a potent chaos-delivery system.
Obviously little Kenosha was a guinea pig.
Some say that George Floyd’s death was the most important historical fact of the 21st century, so far.
the history of the 2020s? ripple effect/fallout from the history of the 90s…..
Not enough people study philosophy. And by that I don’t mean fashionable 20th century Ordinary Language nonsense and its Foucault/Wittgenstein/Austin-esque offshoots, I mean *real* philosophy. Logic, epistemology, ethics, rhetoric, philology, politics (which is an Easter basket of the previous five combined). Oh, and of course, history of science.
Hurr-durr, where’s my fookin brandy alexander already?
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nine-injured-shooting-texas-high-school-prom-party-2023-04-23/Replies: @Known Fact, @Daniel Williams, @Anon
https://www.greatschools.org/texas/jasper/3808-Jasper-High-School/
41 percent black high school, in Texas. By the way, I initially thought it was the Jasper High in Plano, which is 49 percent Asian/Pacific Islander, with comments complaining that it’s a try-hard school with too much homework. But aren’t Texas Asians the dumb kind, not the CJK kind?
need to get some new material if you’re gonna fashion yourself the official real time snark historian on the internet. at this point you’re like a comedian doing the same standup set from 20 years ago.
“What is with the New York Times? Have you seen this? Have you read about this?”
But I guess you've been keeping those all to yourself so far...Replies: @prime noticer
Is it me, or should this make us want to support the Woke Left?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That's way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do.
White wigger nationalists have been entertaining fantasy thoughts of ending immigration and deporting blacks "back to Africa" since the dawn of the internet. They have accomplished nothing and are still just whining on the internet all day.
Meanwhile the Mighty Left has enabled 15,000 blscks to kill themselves while SILMULTANEOUSLY reducing taxes by cuts to police budgets. The White population has not been meaningfully impacted by this at all.
AND, the Republicans are working to ban abortion in the South which shall surely increase the number of black children born, mostly to the most wretched black women.
Guys, what is going on here? It's almost as if we're living in the Twilight Zone where up is down and left is right. The people who openly despise blacks and taxes are foolishly advocating for political platforms that will shelter and increase the black population while costing us more in taxes. The people who claim to love blacks and hate whites push policies that will kill them and put more money in white people's pockets.
Which side is going to wake up and join the other first? That is the question?Replies: @Kylie, @Almost Missouri, @Thea, @Bill Jones, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Sollipsist
Lol, okay I chuckled at this Twilight Zone thing. But don’t put your party hat on yet. Even if 15,000 more underclass went out the exit than before, that doesn’t help if even more are coming in the entrance. And while the quality of those exiting may be disproportionally from the left side of the curve, the quality of the new entrants has been on a long term decline too.
The rest of us are taking spillover fire, it’s just no one has calculated how much yet.
I suppose one could make a Stalin-esque argument that since there are more non-blacks than blacks, non-blacks can keep up this grisly trade-off longer than blacks can, but if Stalinism is the last best hope that the white race shall not perish from the earth, then, well, things are dire indeed.
But the bottom line is that in the same three years as the 15,000 incremental black deaths, there were something well north of 1,500,000 black births (before counting all the mixed-race births who will identify as black, the black immigrants—legal and illegal, etc.), so these incremental deaths are really just a rounding error in the big picture.
Abortion has been dysgenic for every race. Maybe it will miraculously turn eugenic this year, but that’s not the way to bet.
Have your state and local taxes been going down? Thought not.
They’re not reducing taxes. They’re just taking the taxes that would have gone to the relatively rightwing police and diverted them to extremely leftwing social-work/DIE stuff.
Your argument that abortion is dysgenic based on your hunches about second order effects is not convincing given these extreme demographic facts:
1. Black women have about 5 times more abortions than white women.
2. Abortion has caused Down syndrome births (which average an IQ of about 60) to decrease by about 65% when it would otherwise be increasing due to the increasing maternal age trend.Replies: @Almost Missouri
The 1619 crowd is right on one thing: slavery is the original sin of this country, a curse that will be with us forever. It's just that despite the original wrong, they have things completely backwards in terms of who we have to thank that we have a first world nation in spite of it, and who really owes whom a debt.
Here’s a short clip on the black funeral industry from The Wire:
Charm City's ghetto schools don't teach kids anything today! As opposed to in Mencken's or Ruth's day.
Except "lockdown", the 21st-century counterpart of "duck-and-cover". They keepin' it real:
You seem to have missed the 2010s when US got toppled from No 1 spot in the world.
MAGAgain called it exactly right in 2016 (though Trump failed).
Much of the weird stuff the US does is best explained as the wild throes of a dying empire than of a still thinking empire that wants to stay on top.
EG - Wokeness (or the distraction from the 70% unequal part of the society by affirmative action to 1% or 2%).
Provoking war with Russia AND doing the same with China!!
Killing the Golden Goose - taking $300 billion from Russia (as well as UK stealing Venezuela Gold reserves) means the US $ is threatened as the reserve currency - madness.
Government action based on creating perceptions instead of realities.
The continuation of an 18% of GDP health system that delivers less than 11% does in Europe (forget the MIC which steals about 1% of GDP, health steals about 6%).
But still pretending US is safe because of the massive investment in weapons when quite frankly the stuff is crap, Russia leads teh world in the most important tech - missiles, and China is already ahead of US in Hypersonics (making aircraft carriers about the world quite redundant).
Maybe people want to add to the list.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous
It’s worse than that. US health care’s return on investment has turned negative (i.e., the more we spend, the worse the outcome gets) since Obamacare.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/why-are-americans-dying-so-young/#comment-5893232
None of these are the fault of the health care industry.
Demographics are destiny. Health care outcomes in the US would be similar under other health care models.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mark G., @Almost Missouri, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre
Taking a public-health style look at this data, it’s important to remember that a death is just the tip of the social dysfunction iceberg, as it were. For example, if there were 15k excess deaths, how many excess woundings were there? How many excess aggravated assaults? I’m guessing FAR more. And on down. So the social cost of this is way higher than 15k deaths. And the further you climb down the pyramid, the more it spreads to other communities as well. More dysfunction leads to more dysfunctional people – kids who can’t read and have behavior problems, subway systems that have become unridable, downtowns that are packed with beggars and graffiti. Not to mention progressive do-good policies that claw away at the success of others. It’s bad, homies.
Eh, the entire MCU is old news.
This is because the Infinity Gauntlet arc is their equivalent to Ragnarok and the Book of Revelation.
They did a good job with the casting, writing, and FX. They hit on most of the big fan service moments.
There’s nowhere for Marvel to go but down.
Tucker Carlson is out. they got him.
now there’s a moment in the history of the 20s for you. the left has full control of television. not even one single alternative voice is allowed, even if they make the most money on a network not controlled by the left. marketplace of ideas? there isn’t even a marketplace period. nothing against The Regime is allowed, not even your best selling product. first Budweiser found out, then Fox.
the one sided Civil Cold War is in full swing. not even isolated billionaires are strong enough to resist – it will take several of them working together to offer any resistance to the left.
Elon will never fold to these communists. but even guys like Ken Griffin are suspect.
Donald Trump is completely compromised by the left. there’s no point to voting for this guy.
OT: Tucker Carlson out at Fox News
they allowed Carlson to do the Elon interview and that was it.
Elon is posting stuff like “Demographics is destiny” on twitter. they aren’t gonna allow him and Carlson to form some kind of team. the left sees and breaks up any collaboration on the right, just like the intelligence agency of any military would do. make sure the enemy cannot coordinate their units and concentrate fire.
the most important thing for the left now is that rightists do not see and encounter each other on the internet and start talking and coordinating. make sure each person is an individual independent atom that can’t work with any other. you stop any counteraction that way and reduce them to ineffective units.
Is it me, or should this make us want to support the Woke Left?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That's way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do.
White wigger nationalists have been entertaining fantasy thoughts of ending immigration and deporting blacks "back to Africa" since the dawn of the internet. They have accomplished nothing and are still just whining on the internet all day.
Meanwhile the Mighty Left has enabled 15,000 blscks to kill themselves while SILMULTANEOUSLY reducing taxes by cuts to police budgets. The White population has not been meaningfully impacted by this at all.
AND, the Republicans are working to ban abortion in the South which shall surely increase the number of black children born, mostly to the most wretched black women.
Guys, what is going on here? It's almost as if we're living in the Twilight Zone where up is down and left is right. The people who openly despise blacks and taxes are foolishly advocating for political platforms that will shelter and increase the black population while costing us more in taxes. The people who claim to love blacks and hate whites push policies that will kill them and put more money in white people's pockets.
Which side is going to wake up and join the other first? That is the question?Replies: @Kylie, @Almost Missouri, @Thea, @Bill Jones, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Sollipsist
Desiring a moral society where individuals , even ones I don’t particularly like, aren’t frequently murdered over petty insults isn’t anti-white.
It is entirely consistent to build a morally strong society with orderly civil life and not embrace wokeness..
One could argue it is the hallmark of classic Americana.
But in this case, it's not just a question of those individuals being ones we don't particularly like, is it? It's a question of those individuals being routinely and perpetually chaotic to the point that they prevent us from having the moral society we desire. And the more of them there are, the more chaotic and less moral our society is.
"It is entirely consistent to build a morally strong society with orderly civil life and not embrace wokeness."
I'm not sure what you mean here.
It's not just entirely consistent, it's only possible if you don't embrace wokeness.
Embracing wokeness means you cannot build a morally strong society nor have an orderly life. Because wokeness is not about the facts on which laws intended to be fair to all are based, it's about the feelings on which profoundly unfair public policies are based.
I replied to this already but I don't think I was clear enough.
For me, it's not about individuals, it's about groups. I don't hate members of any demographic just because they are in that demographic. I spent years in a multi-racial, multi-ethnic neighborhood during which I had daily contact with people from all over the world. So I tend to see people as individuals.
But there are certain attitudes, traits and beliefs that I utterly loathe, wherever I find them. And they are more prevalent in some demographics than others.
If I want to live in a conservative white society, that is only because I think it's easier. There's less chance for cultural misunderstandings because everyone is more or less on the same page. Shared values and culture are important to me.
But it's never about the individuals who are murdered over petty insults. It's about the unbridgeable gap that represents between their culture (in which that's acceptable) and mine (in which it's not).Replies: @Mike Conrad
There are bad components of our culture/race. They can be weeded out.
I suppose one could make a Stalin-esque argument that since there are more non-blacks than blacks, non-blacks can keep up this grisly trade-off longer than blacks can, but if Stalinism is the last best hope that the white race shall not perish from the earth, then, well, things are dire indeed.
But the bottom line is that in the same three years as the 15,000 incremental black deaths, there were something well north of 1,500,000 black births (before counting all the mixed-race births who will identify as black, the black immigrants—legal and illegal, etc.), so these incremental deaths are really just a rounding error in the big picture.Abortion has been dysgenic for every race. Maybe it will miraculously turn eugenic this year, but that's not the way to bet.Have your state and local taxes been going down? Thought not.
They're not reducing taxes. They're just taking the taxes that would have gone to the relatively rightwing police and diverted them to extremely leftwing social-work/DIE stuff.Replies: @Pixo, @Anon, @Arclight
“ Abortion has been dysgenic for every race. Maybe it will miraculously turn eugenic this year, but that’s not the way to bet.”
Your argument that abortion is dysgenic based on your hunches about second order effects is not convincing given these extreme demographic facts:
1. Black women have about 5 times more abortions than white women.
2. Abortion has caused Down syndrome births (which average an IQ of about 60) to decrease by about 65% when it would otherwise be increasing due to the increasing maternal age trend.
Both Steve and I speculate about why Levitt's elegant theory fails to come true, but our speculations are not the argument. The facts are the argument. And the facts are that the harder we stomp on the abortion pedal the worse the dysgenia gets.Replies: @Pixo
Russians are a mixed Eurasian rather than white population, and see themselves as the leaders of a worldwide brown/black anti-imperialist bloc.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvans
https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/10/SEC_131032078-5226.jpg
Joke all you want but it is true that most of the damage done during the 2020 protests was commited by right wing agent provocateurs.
By the way Tucker Carlson just got sacked from Fox for his lying and indecency.
Die angry racist.
Suck a…
https://a9p9n2x2.stackpathcdn.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2020/09/don-lemon-black-enterprise-960x675.jpg
And look at that. Yours wishing death on someone. That's fine. Us Latinos will outbreed you first, racist little monkey.
OT: Tucker ousted:
https://thehill.com/homenews/media/3966300-tucker-carlson-and-fox-news-part-ways/
They got Tucker.
Steve, protect yourself.
Off topic. Tucker Carlson & Fox News have parted company.
And Don Le’Mon got his ass fired on the same day. Gotta love it!
Nice, nice!
What about the remark that we should just move on and let bygones be bygones and leave 2020 behind?
The sheer lack of or unwilling to understand that 2020 was a pivotal year in US history.
The US cannot leave 2020 behind because 2020 won’t let leave the US alone.
2020 not only showed how determined the enemy is but how weak and spineless the so-called conservative side is. So many caved on the covid narrative and jabs, the election narrative, and then even on Ukraine.
Is it me, or should this make us want to support the Woke Left?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That's way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do.
White wigger nationalists have been entertaining fantasy thoughts of ending immigration and deporting blacks "back to Africa" since the dawn of the internet. They have accomplished nothing and are still just whining on the internet all day.
Meanwhile the Mighty Left has enabled 15,000 blscks to kill themselves while SILMULTANEOUSLY reducing taxes by cuts to police budgets. The White population has not been meaningfully impacted by this at all.
AND, the Republicans are working to ban abortion in the South which shall surely increase the number of black children born, mostly to the most wretched black women.
Guys, what is going on here? It's almost as if we're living in the Twilight Zone where up is down and left is right. The people who openly despise blacks and taxes are foolishly advocating for political platforms that will shelter and increase the black population while costing us more in taxes. The people who claim to love blacks and hate whites push policies that will kill them and put more money in white people's pockets.
Which side is going to wake up and join the other first? That is the question?Replies: @Kylie, @Almost Missouri, @Thea, @Bill Jones, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Sollipsist
tldr: It’s a start!
It IS an obsession of yours, but I think it’s a very constructive one as opposed to the worship of Hollywood people, which is perhaps a small one of yours too. You’re getting all this information out there by showing easy-to-follow graphs and looking at the increased death rates in all kinds of ways.
The mainstream Lyin’ Press might just get a better handle on what’s going on, but don’t think:
1) They will feel any compunction to push for reversal of their stupid policies. When you make an omelette, some eggs must be broken. That’s all this is.
2) As much as you really do care about these extra Black! people’s deaths, that will not ingratiate you in any way with the Lyin’ Press – you’ve done enough harm, in their opinion, by bringing this into the light, something they didn’t ask for. I know you don’t write to ingratiate yourself with the Lyin’ Press, but just sayin’, they will HATE you just the same.
Anyone with a modicum of marbles undrstands sailer is concern trolling and in fact celebrates !!!!!BLACK¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ fatalities. Even the window lickers in the hatestream media get the joke.
Include Tucker in History.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/tucker-carlson-out-fox
Must be the pre-election clear-out.
So, Any of the Media giants could pick him up and instantly sweep the time-slot.
Any takers?
Nah…
The 2020s? iSteve called World War T well in advance, no one else did. People here have been wondering what’s next.
I’m calling World War V. Yesterday I saw a mildly menacing vegan billboard in Berkeley. Think of what fun they’ll have, enrolling children as agitators and informants, banning animal products in cities and counties, passing state initiatives to end animal husbandry, virtue signaling on social media. And science denial: humans were never omnivores until whites or something.
As someone who was raised with gardens and farm animals, I find it comical. If vegans have their way, the population of farm animals will greatly decline. Many can’t survive on their own.
Take a look:
https://www.google.com/search?q=vegan+billboards&tbm=isch&sxsrf
It’s equity!
https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIP.CqDtaG-hHAhQ4DmdTtOCLgHaEo?w=275&h=182&c=7&r=0&o=5&dpr=2.5&pid=1.7
Next: Affirmative action for cattle, chickens, and lobsters?
You seem to have missed the 2010s when US got toppled from No 1 spot in the world.
MAGAgain called it exactly right in 2016 (though Trump failed).
Much of the weird stuff the US does is best explained as the wild throes of a dying empire than of a still thinking empire that wants to stay on top.
EG - Wokeness (or the distraction from the 70% unequal part of the society by affirmative action to 1% or 2%).
Provoking war with Russia AND doing the same with China!!
Killing the Golden Goose - taking $300 billion from Russia (as well as UK stealing Venezuela Gold reserves) means the US $ is threatened as the reserve currency - madness.
Government action based on creating perceptions instead of realities.
The continuation of an 18% of GDP health system that delivers less than 11% does in Europe (forget the MIC which steals about 1% of GDP, health steals about 6%).
But still pretending US is safe because of the massive investment in weapons when quite frankly the stuff is crap, Russia leads teh world in the most important tech - missiles, and China is already ahead of US in Hypersonics (making aircraft carriers about the world quite redundant).
Maybe people want to add to the list.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous
If aircraft carriers are redundant, why are the Chinese building them, as are the Japanese?
And, by the way, the real serious threat to aircraft carriers (and all surface vessels) is submarines.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/why-are-americans-dying-so-young/#comment-5893232Replies: @Pixo
Americans live shorter lives because of drugs, obesity, physical inactivity, processed food, and black crime.
None of these are the fault of the health care industry.
Demographics are destiny. Health care outcomes in the US would be similar under other health care models.
Also, we tend to spend way more on the elderly than other countries. In the rest of the world, retirees don't get joint surgery unless they pay out of pocket. Over 75, cancer care is pain management.
And, if you compare Americans to the foreigners who they're most related to, we tend to live slightly longer. Whether it's worth the extra money, is hard to tell.Replies: @Spect3r
We do know that Obamacare funds a bunch of counter-productive things, such as "transgender care" which takes basically healthy bodies and turns them into ongoing medical wreckage sites, so it shouldn't be surprising that the more of it there is the worse things get.Replies: @Anon, @That Would Be Telling
The clot shot has nothing to do with the health care industry?
I haven't seen a comment this obtuse in a while. Thanks.
https://i0.wp.com/asiatimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Sergei-Shoigu.jpgReplies: @BB753, @Anonymous
General Sergey Shoigu ( to the right of Putin) is half-Tuvan, i.e. half-Turkic. His mother is from the Donbass! So this makes Shoigu Eurasian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuvans
15,000 deaths of exuberance is a rounding error…
Black percentage of the population holds steady at 13 – 16% of the population depending on whose numbers you believe.
Someone here said black women have 5x the abortions white women do, but they also have more kids per capita than white women. Too lazy to do the math but it would seem to be a wash.
Brotha’s need to up their game if we’re going to make any progress here.
Only a small portion of the black population is problematic (males ages 17-30). When black men get to their 30s their behavior and mental faculties improve substantially.
Black women, black children, and black adult males cause little trouble.
There are already over a milion black men in prison. So 15,000 is actually a significant starting point for such a tiny segment of the population.
I wish it wasn't so. Unfortunately a significant number of young black men are sleepwalking in a lawless stupor.
Having said that, your chances or being harmed by one are near zero if you stop going in to their neighborhoods to buy drugs and stop trying to live there to save money for weekend meals at Red Lobster.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
O/T – I got the bad news from commenter Alarmist on my site – pays to read Peak Stupidity:
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it’s due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it’s some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That’s it. I don’t get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago – missed the anniversary on my blog – with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn’t know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I’m not confident about it.
https://twitter.com/DissidentSoaps/status/1650525994539970565https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dxyfit0WsAI8adp.jpg
Or maybe not:
https://twitter.com/quietstation27/status/1650531508036222976
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-03-27/fired-fox-news-producer-said-she-was-coached-by-network-lawyers-on-defamation-case-testimony
but let's not get into
EVERY - SINGLE - TIME
https://www.connectthedots101.com/dot-to-dot/Temple/Chinese_Temple_connect_dots.png
None of these are the fault of the health care industry.
Demographics are destiny. Health care outcomes in the US would be similar under other health care models.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mark G., @Almost Missouri, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre
And also forgotten, we pay our doctors and nurses more.
Also, we tend to spend way more on the elderly than other countries. In the rest of the world, retirees don’t get joint surgery unless they pay out of pocket. Over 75, cancer care is pain management.
And, if you compare Americans to the foreigners who they’re most related to, we tend to live slightly longer. Whether it’s worth the extra money, is hard to tell.
Ah? What? Where are you getting this info from?
My 92-year-old neighbour got joint surgery last year through the public health system in Portugal.
None of these are the fault of the health care industry.
Demographics are destiny. Health care outcomes in the US would be similar under other health care models.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mark G., @Almost Missouri, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre
“Americans live shorter lives because of drugs, obesity, physical inactivity, processed food, and black crime. None of these are the fault of the health care industry.”
Who was prescribing all that OxyContin? Who tried to maximize profits during the Covid epidemic by supporting Federal regulatory agencies that blocked the use of inexpensive expired patent drugs that might work while allowing through patented three-thousand-dollar Remdesivir? This is the Remdesivir that studies show reduces length of the disease but not deaths and has multiple negative side effects but does maximize profits for big pharma.
The fact that we went from spending 6% of GDP in 1960 to almost triple the amount sixty years later, should indicate that maybe something is wrong with our health care industry. Because of regulatory capture, the big federal health agencies like the FDA, CDC and NIH work for the benefit of the medical cartel and big pharma. Maybe if they weren’t sucking up so much of Americans wealth, Americans could afford better quality food and wouldn’t be so depressed from being poorer that they want to take drugs. Maybe if they hadn’t adopted the drugs and surgery model that brings them the most profits and instead adopted a proactive preventive care model based on the belief “an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure”, spending on health care wouldn’t have tripled as a percentage of GDP. One of the most important things we can do is allow Americans more freedom to pick what kind of medical care they want rather than be held captives by a government enforced monopoly that allows unrestrained greed to operate.
None of these are the fault of the health care industry.
Demographics are destiny. Health care outcomes in the US would be similar under other health care models.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mark G., @Almost Missouri, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre
We’ve long had drugs, obesity, physical inactivity, processed food, and black crime without healthcare ROI going negative. In 2014, we got Obamacare and healthcare ROI suddenly went negative. I don’t have any junk food or couch potato statistics, but it would be surprising if they were very different from prior years. If you’ve got a better correlation where drugs or obesity or physical inactivity or processed food suddenly shot upward that year, let’s see it. I already showed that the much worse jump in black crime since 2020 is still just a rounding error in the big demographic picture, so it wasn’t that in 2014. The crime situation briefly improved in the Trump era, but the healthcare ROI didn’t. So those are not correlated. Not yet, anyway. Another order of magnitude and maybe it will be.
We do know that Obamacare funds a bunch of counter-productive things, such as “transgender care” which takes basically healthy bodies and turns them into ongoing medical wreckage sites, so it shouldn’t be surprising that the more of it there is the worse things get.
I knew a boomer who had been hardcore drinking since the 1980s. Took him until 2016 to finally die of fatty liver disease. Our human bodies can withstand a lot of abuse.
One thing that does not contribute to American life expectancy is black crime. You're extremely unlikely to die from black crime if you're not a young black male.Replies: @Pixo, @Wilkey
Just those two words ballooned into "750 pages" of regulations per a close friend in the business, and I'm sure plenty of people here can attest to how some doctors and healthcare workers started paying more apparent attention to their computer than their patient in question. That's because they have to enter in enough data to, in one GUI, turn a set of red lights green.
The system I'm now using eventually moved to adding a transcriptionist to follow every doctor, they do nothing but carry and use a laptop, although part of that is sending out prescriptions in consultation with the patient.
Might also note how friction like this has force so many independent practitioners into working for the man, like my local hospital systems. That's going to have all sorts of effects, some increasing and some decreasing productivity, could be the balance is negative.Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Almost Missouri
I suppose one could make a Stalin-esque argument that since there are more non-blacks than blacks, non-blacks can keep up this grisly trade-off longer than blacks can, but if Stalinism is the last best hope that the white race shall not perish from the earth, then, well, things are dire indeed.
But the bottom line is that in the same three years as the 15,000 incremental black deaths, there were something well north of 1,500,000 black births (before counting all the mixed-race births who will identify as black, the black immigrants—legal and illegal, etc.), so these incremental deaths are really just a rounding error in the big picture.Abortion has been dysgenic for every race. Maybe it will miraculously turn eugenic this year, but that's not the way to bet.Have your state and local taxes been going down? Thought not.
They're not reducing taxes. They're just taking the taxes that would have gone to the relatively rightwing police and diverted them to extremely leftwing social-work/DIE stuff.Replies: @Pixo, @Anon, @Arclight
Police bugets usually account for over 50% of city expenditures. There’s no way those tax dollars can be diverted to Leftist stuff: the Leftist stuff isn’t expensive enough.
As for dysgenic abortion, that sounds like an oxymoron. We’d have way more genetic fuckups if it weren’t for abortion. Not to mention fewer fetal alcohol syndromes and born addicts (what do we call this, euphenics?)
Nobody gets attacked by blacks unless they’re a tard; less than 1% of white people will ever be physically harmed by a black. Most white people don’t even see blacks other than the mailman. You have to do something really stupid like going to a black neighborhood with a nice radio in your car in order to be a victim of black crime. With the average white person now carrying two twin Uberti 1873 Cattlemen in their waistband, AN-94 in the trunk, and a Serbu Super Shorty strapped around their ankle, no one even thinks about police budgets anymore. If anything white people only fear being charged by the police after they blast a criminal.
Your argument that abortion is dysgenic based on your hunches about second order effects is not convincing given these extreme demographic facts:
1. Black women have about 5 times more abortions than white women.
2. Abortion has caused Down syndrome births (which average an IQ of about 60) to decrease by about 65% when it would otherwise be increasing due to the increasing maternal age trend.Replies: @Almost Missouri
My (and Steve’s) argument is just facts that already happened. Your (and Prof. Levitt’s) arguments are theories about what you think should happen. Unfortunately, reality has been handing out different results from the theories.
Both Steve and I speculate about why Levitt’s elegant theory fails to come true, but our speculations are not the argument. The facts are the argument. And the facts are that the harder we stomp on the abortion pedal the worse the dysgenia gets.
It isn’t that your second-order effects don’t exist. But they’d have to be huge to outweigh the fact that the racial and socioeconomic status of aborting mothers suggests they are aborting 85IQ fetuses.
Further, I can tell plausible stories about abortion bans causing negative second order effects. A high IQ couple with a 40ish woman may decide to not try to have children if they cannot abort a downs fetus, or cull down an overly successful IVF that would otherwise produce triplets.
On your other comment, I don’t think there’s an accurate and meaningful annual statistic called “Healthcare ROI.”Replies: @Almost Missouri
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
We do know that Obamacare funds a bunch of counter-productive things, such as "transgender care" which takes basically healthy bodies and turns them into ongoing medical wreckage sites, so it shouldn't be surprising that the more of it there is the worse things get.Replies: @Anon, @That Would Be Telling
It takes time for people to die of obesity, drugs, alcohol, etc.
Most of the people dying from this are boomers and their deaths are related to habits developed in the 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s.
I knew a boomer who had been hardcore drinking since the 1980s. Took him until 2016 to finally die of fatty liver disease. Our human bodies can withstand a lot of abuse.
One thing that does not contribute to American life expectancy is black crime. You’re extremely unlikely to die from black crime if you’re not a young black male.
It increases stress, commute time, and discourages healthy walkable and friendly communities. It also is costly and decreases funds for public health.Replies: @Anon
Both Steve and I speculate about why Levitt's elegant theory fails to come true, but our speculations are not the argument. The facts are the argument. And the facts are that the harder we stomp on the abortion pedal the worse the dysgenia gets.Replies: @Pixo
Dysgenic within-race fertility isn’t getting worse however, but improving. I believe the low point was in the 1970s, which also corresponds to the peak of Great Society cash subsidies for underclass single motherhood.
It isn’t that your second-order effects don’t exist. But they’d have to be huge to outweigh the fact that the racial and socioeconomic status of aborting mothers suggests they are aborting 85IQ fetuses.
Further, I can tell plausible stories about abortion bans causing negative second order effects. A high IQ couple with a 40ish woman may decide to not try to have children if they cannot abort a downs fetus, or cull down an overly successful IVF that would otherwise produce triplets.
On your other comment, I don’t think there’s an accurate and meaningful annual statistic called “Healthcare ROI.”
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
If anything, the more precarious things get, the more likely there will be (physical) fighting. Material comfort and demographic/political segregation works fine until it doesn’t.
According to the LA Times, Rupert Murdoch fired Tucker because of the Abbie Grossberg antisemitism lawsuit.
https://forward.com/fast-forward/540693/tucker-carlson-senior-producer-lawsuit-antisemitic-jewish-staffers-grossberg-mccaskill/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4pazj7Vo-wkReplies: @Reg Cæsar
That should be “hanged hisself”. The past tense of to hang and to string only rhyme when applied to objects, not to people.
Charm City’s ghetto schools don’t teach kids anything today! As opposed to in Mencken’s or Ruth’s day.
Except “lockdown”, the 21st-century counterpart of “duck-and-cover”. They keepin’ it real:
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
Tucker could have actual success on his own. FOX will keep limping along at least until the Boomers die and then virtually no one is left watching cable TV news. I am sure they have promises from advertisers who will be happy to pay increased rates for fewer viewers knowing they are supporting regime approved opinions.
It isn’t that your second-order effects don’t exist. But they’d have to be huge to outweigh the fact that the racial and socioeconomic status of aborting mothers suggests they are aborting 85IQ fetuses.
Further, I can tell plausible stories about abortion bans causing negative second order effects. A high IQ couple with a 40ish woman may decide to not try to have children if they cannot abort a downs fetus, or cull down an overly successful IVF that would otherwise produce triplets.
On your other comment, I don’t think there’s an accurate and meaningful annual statistic called “Healthcare ROI.”Replies: @Almost Missouri
Okay, let’s see the data.
You’ve got data, right?
Getting pregnant is first-order. Aborting (some of) the additional pregnancies is second-order.
Did you look at the chart? Every nation earth gets longer lifespans by spending more medical money. Except the US since 2014, which now gets shorter lifespans for every additional dollar spent.
You don’t have to call that “Healthcare ROI”, but it should be called something.
I do.
I suggest starting here:
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2021/02/recent-evidence-on-dysgenic-trends-february-2021/
To take one example, this high quality Icelandic study. You can see in figure 2 there was an abrupt decrease in the rate of dysgenic decline around the 1945 birth cohort.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1612113114Replies: @Almost Missouri
The mainstream Lyin' Press might just get a better handle on what's going on, but don't think:
1) They will feel any compunction to push for reversal of their stupid policies. When you make an omelette, some eggs must be broken. That's all this is.
2) As much as you really do care about these extra Black! people's deaths, that will not ingratiate you in any way with the Lyin' Press - you've done enough harm, in their opinion, by bringing this into the light, something they didn't ask for. I know you don't write to ingratiate yourself with the Lyin' Press, but just sayin', they will HATE you just the same.Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
“As much as you really do care about these extra Black! people’s deaths, that will not ingratiate you in any way with the Lyin’ Press – you’ve done enough harm, in their opinion, by bringing this into the light, something they didn’t ask for. I know you don’t write to ingratiate yourself with the Lyin’ Press, but just sayin’, they will HATE you just the same.”
Anyone with a modicum of marbles undrstands sailer is concern trolling and in fact celebrates !!!!!BLACK¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ fatalities. Even the window lickers in the hatestream media get the joke.
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
Tucker will be fine. Stop shedding tears over these declining Boomer legacy media platforms. If Ben Shapiro (Daily Wire) can offer Steven Crowder nearly 9 figures to come over to his network, Tucker will find a well-renumerated new home where he can be even less inhibited (truthful). We should be doing everything we can to shrink and de-power The Megaphone, including Republican Presidential candidates refusing to participate in any debate moderated by a MSM talking-head schill. Instead insist on someone independent like Rogan, Jimmy Dore, or Russell Brand. Tucker will be fine.
PS: Don Lemon was fired today so Monday’s not been a total wash 🙂
"After 17 years you'd think...,"sounding like a woman.
Oh shut up. Just go! Sissy!
It should be concerning that a fraud like Shapiro has that kind of scratch to be throwing around. Who are his benefactors and what are their motivations?Replies: @Almost Missouri
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
Alleged leaked clips from what would have been Monday’s pre-taped Tucker Carlson Tonight before Fox brass was alerted:
Or maybe not:
https://twitter.com/quietstation27/status/1650531508036222976
I’m not crying, Abe, and it’s not about my viewing. I catch this stuff on video clips, not having had an idiot plate hooked up to anything but a DVD player (if anything) for 2 1/2 decades almost.
There are a lot of Conservatives that still watch the big networks though.
Along with your thoughts about the GOP, or how about REAL Conservatives (Trump, DeSantis…) boycotting the Lyin’ Press, let me bring up another idea that I really thought Pres. Trump was up for doing back early on, Spring of ’17. The idea is to decide for your freaking self who gets to attend the press conferences. Get a long-winded ranty question by some ctrl-left guy from NPR? “OK, that’s twice man, leave your press pass at the door on your way out. Your seat will be taken from now on by let’s see… Instapundit Glenn Reynolds… maybe Ann Coulter… perhaps Peter Brimelow, oohhh, got it! Achmed E Newman!”
PS: Never seen this Don Lemon of which you speak… heard of him maybe twice.
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
Reports that
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-04-24/tucker-carlson-is-out-at-fox-news
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/business/story/2023-03-27/fired-fox-news-producer-said-she-was-coached-by-network-lawyers-on-defamation-case-testimony
but let’s not get into
EVERY – SINGLE – TIME
We do know that Obamacare funds a bunch of counter-productive things, such as "transgender care" which takes basically healthy bodies and turns them into ongoing medical wreckage sites, so it shouldn't be surprising that the more of it there is the worse things get.Replies: @Anon, @That Would Be Telling
There’s a massive, known in that we’ve all seen it if we’ve visited a doctor starting around or not long after Obamacare was passed, massive productivity sink that goes back to his “stimulus” bill which mandated proof of “meaningful use” of electronic medical records.
Just those two words ballooned into “750 pages” of regulations per a close friend in the business, and I’m sure plenty of people here can attest to how some doctors and healthcare workers started paying more apparent attention to their computer than their patient in question. That’s because they have to enter in enough data to, in one GUI, turn a set of red lights green.
The system I’m now using eventually moved to adding a transcriptionist to follow every doctor, they do nothing but carry and use a laptop, although part of that is sending out prescriptions in consultation with the patient.
Might also note how friction like this has force so many independent practitioners into working for the man, like my local hospital systems. That’s going to have all sorts of effects, some increasing and some decreasing productivity, could be the balance is negative.
https://ourworldindata.org/us-life-expectancy-lowIncidentally, while the US in the 1970s was on the more expensive side of the pack, it seems to be in the early 1980s that it first seriously diverged from the herd in terms of efficiency, going from the generally prevailing $500/head/year spending per additional life-year to $3000/head/year spending per additional life-year. I'm sure lefties would instantly say that it is somehow Reagan's fault, though how he accomplished this immediately upon assuming office against Democratic majorities in Congress would remain unexplained. I can imagine that there are possible political explanations for this, though I don't recall any political activity on the scale of Obamacare in the early 1980s. In fact, I don't recall any healthcare-related politics from that era at all. Maybe the shift to HMOs? It is around the time that the obesity epidemic began, so maybe whatever is causing that is also making healthcare less effective. But since obesity affects other countries too even if not so severely I would still expect to see some obesity-effect in other countries' numbers, but they don't seem to be there.Replies: @res, @That Would Be Telling
J.Ross, sadly sounds about right:
“We must out-produce them overwhelmingly, so that there can be no question of our ability to provide a crushing superiority of equipment in any theatre of the world war.” – Franklin Roosevelt 1941
Two years earlier, America’s military preparedness was not that of a nation expecting to go to war. In 1939, the United States Army ranked thirty-ninth in the world, possessing a cavalry force of fifty thousand and using horses to pull the artillery.
A China/US trading places?
And a bit of more good news for Uni-Country (formerally known as USA) as of just yesterday:
The San Francisco Police Department no longer requires peace officer applicants to be U.S. citizens, according to officials.
A new law written by East Bay Senator Nancy Skinner repeals the requirement for California Peace Officers to be citizens. Senate Bill 960 now allows anyone who is legally able to work in the U.S., regardless of their nationality (loyalties), to become police officers.
There are no doubt plenty of qualified/experienced Mexican cartel officers ready and willing to fill SF’s open postions.
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
………Seems like the left wants Americans to fight back ……smells like another trap.
Steve, are you still pondering a book?
This latest chart of yours suggests an Edward Tufte-style collection, liberally annotated with your related writings, all themed toward the major points of your career. An anthology of sorts, as it were.
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
Nah, maybe you should be happy — he is free of James Murdoch and his harridan wife who is only slightly better, according to rumor, than Alissa Heinerscheid.
In fact, by firing Tucker, maybe Fox has Heinerscheided itself.
You know, I really want this to be a verb now.
Steve, ring up your lawyer!!
Trademarks, baby. Deaths of Exuberance.® Heinerscheided!®
Own them while they are hot!!
“ You’ve got data, right?”
I do.
I suggest starting here:
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2021/02/recent-evidence-on-dysgenic-trends-february-2021/
To take one example, this high quality Icelandic study. You can see in figure 2 there was an abrupt decrease in the rate of dysgenic decline around the 1945 birth cohort.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1612113114
I knew a boomer who had been hardcore drinking since the 1980s. Took him until 2016 to finally die of fatty liver disease. Our human bodies can withstand a lot of abuse.
One thing that does not contribute to American life expectancy is black crime. You're extremely unlikely to die from black crime if you're not a young black male.Replies: @Pixo, @Wilkey
“ One thing that does not contribute to American life expectancy is black crime.”
It increases stress, commute time, and discourages healthy walkable and friendly communities. It also is costly and decreases funds for public health.
Nobody is stressed by black crime except other black people.
The commute times increased because America never built decent roads, your roads are built at a snail's pace and are broken before they open.
Healthy and workable communities are the white communities. Move out of the ghetto you penny pinching Jew.
Black crime has more than paid for itself in gunshot medical research. The United States has the best gunshot medical expertise in the world thanks to black crime. We export this knowledge to foreigners for big money and we never lose more than 3000 soldiers per decade in war anymore.
Quit bitching about black people, dude. The government is never going to ban black people over these frivolous ass reasons.
You have to ban them YOURSELF.
I can't believe boomers are thinking they are going to get black people deported over "commute times". LMFAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOO.
Complain about something the government actually wants to fix, like middle and upper middle class women's birth rates.
Something that will actually help your pitiful ass get your ethnostate you want so bad.Replies: @Nicholas Stix
I suppose one could make a Stalin-esque argument that since there are more non-blacks than blacks, non-blacks can keep up this grisly trade-off longer than blacks can, but if Stalinism is the last best hope that the white race shall not perish from the earth, then, well, things are dire indeed.
But the bottom line is that in the same three years as the 15,000 incremental black deaths, there were something well north of 1,500,000 black births (before counting all the mixed-race births who will identify as black, the black immigrants—legal and illegal, etc.), so these incremental deaths are really just a rounding error in the big picture.Abortion has been dysgenic for every race. Maybe it will miraculously turn eugenic this year, but that's not the way to bet.Have your state and local taxes been going down? Thought not.
They're not reducing taxes. They're just taking the taxes that would have gone to the relatively rightwing police and diverted them to extremely leftwing social-work/DIE stuff.Replies: @Pixo, @Anon, @Arclight
Yeah, my initial reaction is ‘who cares if the worst elements of society are hard at work taking each other out’ but the collateral damage to society is immense. And frankly the higher the level of disorder, the more outrageous the demands of the left are on the rest of us.
The 1619 crowd is right on one thing: slavery is the original sin of this country, a curse that will be with us forever. It’s just that despite the original wrong, they have things completely backwards in terms of who we have to thank that we have a first world nation in spite of it, and who really owes whom a debt.
It is entirely consistent to build a morally strong society with orderly civil life and not embrace wokeness..
One could argue it is the hallmark of classic Americana.Replies: @Kylie, @Kylie, @Anonymous
“Desiring a moral society where individuals , even ones I don’t particularly like, aren’t frequently murdered over petty insults isn’t anti-white.”
But in this case, it’s not just a question of those individuals being ones we don’t particularly like, is it? It’s a question of those individuals being routinely and perpetually chaotic to the point that they prevent us from having the moral society we desire. And the more of them there are, the more chaotic and less moral our society is.
“It is entirely consistent to build a morally strong society with orderly civil life and not embrace wokeness.”
I’m not sure what you mean here.
It’s not just entirely consistent, it’s only possible if you don’t embrace wokeness.
Embracing wokeness means you cannot build a morally strong society nor have an orderly life. Because wokeness is not about the facts on which laws intended to be fair to all are based, it’s about the feelings on which profoundly unfair public policies are based.
Steve, protect yourself.Replies: @HA, @OK Boomer
“Steve, protect yourself.”
Yeah, don’t waste bandwidth promoting a meme you yourself know to be bogus, floated by an ex-president you “passionately hate”, but nonetheless decide you need to keep it alive because it appeals to the fan base your producer regards as dumb cousin-f*cking terrorists:
I mean, who could have guessed that might end badly for him?
Oh, wait. Sailer never hopped onto that bandwagon despite the many catcalls from the commentators that he was yet again letting down the dissident-right. Never mind.
(And since when do Saudi royals frown on marrying their cousins?)
So far, I think the most important historical facts of the 21st century were the 9/11 terrorist attack and the election of Donald Trump in 2016.
https://imgur.com/a/fxmHNbR
"What is with the New York Times? Have you seen this? Have you read about this?"Replies: @Muggles
Well, you are free here to post your own brilliant observations to make poor iSteve look weak.
But I guess you’ve been keeping those all to yourself so far…
Off topic. Tucker Carlson & Fox News have parted company.
And Don Le’Mon got his ass fired on the same day. Gotta love it!
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
You do not know that Tucker has been fired. He’s moved to Florida… speculation is he might be Trumps VP
Yeah, it’s all so tiresome (and that’s a good thing).
Rigging a voting machine leaves too many failure points for the conspirators. The way the election was stolen was by widespread media collusion against Trump – selectively highlighting every foible, every last conceivable violation of law, decency, morality, whatever, that could be imputed to him. Imagine if he had come down hard during the Fentanyl Floyd riots, ie doing anything other than meekly tweeting as police stations, businesses and various public and private properties burned. Or, if he had bitten the bullet over covid lockdowns – not a single excess death would have been ignored by the combined efforts of the propaganda machine, no matter if it would have averted an economic downturn.
The spotlight being unceasingly cast on any and all of Trump’s real or perceived blemishes – while of course ignoring the many more legitimate & destructive aspects of Biden & co – was all it took to get that fucking piece of shit in office. Most votes ever, for sure!
Oh, and of course, the occasional dumping of mail in votes by some overweight, diabetic and vibrant pollsters. “Mmm-hmm, might could have to drop this bag in the trash, it’s a little too heavy, know what I’m sayin’?”
Focusing on an easily falsifiable theory such as in the Dominion machines was retarded, especially when the real conspiracy was being piped into everyone’s brains 24/7 via the media. Clear as day…
Just as Covid, which was not man-made, except it was made by the Chinese.
True capitalism has never been tried - the Chinese and Putin are not allowing it.
Carriers are hugely expensive and difficult to operate floating airports. Until proven anti smart missle and hypersonic missile defense is 100% effective, they are no more incvulneravble to quick destriction than any land airbase/airport.
They are popular for power projection, since you can intimidate weaker powers by just moving offshore. So they are for military bulling and threats, not great power conflicts.
Submarines are also a threat, but they also fire smart missiles, cruise missiles, etc. Smart undersea mines are also a threat. Which is probably why China won’t invade Taiwan.
Russia can barely keep it’s one big carrier afloat. They are hugely difficult and very expensive to operate. Even NATO members like the UK and France can barely operate small carriers.
Unless you've served aboard a carrier you have no idea how difficult. But we've been doing it successfully for generations. And the ONI (no, not 鬼, 'though that has led to some hilarious confusion during lectures at 海上自衛隊幹部学校 ) knows all about Chinese military threats.
https://i.imgur.com/nSIIQwC.jpg
Tucker wasn’t really promoting the 2020 trutherism. He mainly seemed to want to avoid the subject, especially the vote machine claims that got Fox sued.
Fair enough, but I'll wager he gave it a lot more bandwidth than Sailer did, and I think the passages I cited affirm that. And as I recall, a vocal segment of Sailer's peanut gallery was agog that he was letting yet another oh-so important bandwagon just pass him by, and what need have we of real evidence, anyway? Whereas in hindsight, it was more like dodging a bullet.
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
“That’s it. I don’t get depressed much, but this [Fox firing Tucker Carlson]is not sitting well with me.”
Nor with me. I get depressed a lot about the state of our country, looking back futilely wondering where exactly was the tipping point, loathing the left’s decadence in the present, dreading the future.
“From 30 years ago – missed the anniversary on my blog – with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn’t know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I’m not confident about it.”
For me, the moment was not Waco but 9/11. I was actually relieved after 9/11. I can even remember where I was when I thought “NOW we’ll finally start pulling together as a country again.” I honestly despise myself for that naivete now. I think it was Obama’s election that killed my hope. I thought it was patently foolish to elect a racial minority to be POTUS. But even more, I thought it was terrible to elect an obviously anti-white American to rule over (not govern, not any more) a mostly white America.
If I don’t leave my house or think about life outside the four walls of my modest little existence, I’m happy as a clam. But I look out at the wider world and feel maybe not despair but desolation.
It increases stress, commute time, and discourages healthy walkable and friendly communities. It also is costly and decreases funds for public health.Replies: @Anon
Bullshit.
Nobody is stressed by black crime except other black people.
The commute times increased because America never built decent roads, your roads are built at a snail’s pace and are broken before they open.
Healthy and workable communities are the white communities. Move out of the ghetto you penny pinching Jew.
Black crime has more than paid for itself in gunshot medical research. The United States has the best gunshot medical expertise in the world thanks to black crime. We export this knowledge to foreigners for big money and we never lose more than 3000 soldiers per decade in war anymore.
Quit bitching about black people, dude. The government is never going to ban black people over these frivolous ass reasons.
You have to ban them YOURSELF.
I can’t believe boomers are thinking they are going to get black people deported over “commute times”. LMFAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOO.
Complain about something the government actually wants to fix, like middle and upper middle class women’s birth rates.
Something that will actually help your pitiful ass get your ethnostate you want so bad.
Black percentage of the population holds steady at 13 - 16% of the population depending on whose numbers you believe.
Someone here said black women have 5x the abortions white women do, but they also have more kids per capita than white women. Too lazy to do the math but it would seem to be a wash.
Brotha’s need to up their game if we’re going to make any progress here.Replies: @Anon
The growth you speak of is due to African immigration.
Only a small portion of the black population is problematic (males ages 17-30). When black men get to their 30s their behavior and mental faculties improve substantially.
Black women, black children, and black adult males cause little trouble.
There are already over a milion black men in prison. So 15,000 is actually a significant starting point for such a tiny segment of the population.
I wish it wasn’t so. Unfortunately a significant number of young black men are sleepwalking in a lawless stupor.
Having said that, your chances or being harmed by one are near zero if you stop going in to their neighborhoods to buy drugs and stop trying to live there to save money for weekend meals at Red Lobster.
Today's Paper Of Record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12008435/Killer-murdered-grandfather-running-car-jailed-26-years.html
Just those two words ballooned into "750 pages" of regulations per a close friend in the business, and I'm sure plenty of people here can attest to how some doctors and healthcare workers started paying more apparent attention to their computer than their patient in question. That's because they have to enter in enough data to, in one GUI, turn a set of red lights green.
The system I'm now using eventually moved to adding a transcriptionist to follow every doctor, they do nothing but carry and use a laptop, although part of that is sending out prescriptions in consultation with the patient.
Might also note how friction like this has force so many independent practitioners into working for the man, like my local hospital systems. That's going to have all sorts of effects, some increasing and some decreasing productivity, could be the balance is negative.Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Almost Missouri
The 2008 “stimulus” bill was used to push through a massive program forcing hospitals and physicians to computerize (and conveniently centralize) their records.
Another slow-motion “healthcare” revolution gaining momentum is the displacement of physicians by unsupervised para-professionals with titles such as “nurse practitioner” etc.
Remember when doctors made house calls?
The key variable is the ratio of fully qualified physicians to patients. Meanwhile, and not coincidentally, physician qualifications themselves are being subverted nationwide under the guise of “affirmative action” and attrited through countless woke initiatives.
Trump has never been a real conservative.
They are popular for power projection, since you can intimidate weaker powers by just moving offshore. So they are for military bulling and threats, not great power conflicts.
Submarines are also a threat, but they also fire smart missiles, cruise missiles, etc. Smart undersea mines are also a threat. Which is probably why China won't invade Taiwan.
Russia can barely keep it's one big carrier afloat. They are hugely difficult and very expensive to operate. Even NATO members like the UK and France can barely operate small carriers.Replies: @SafeNow, @Anonymous
Aircraft carriers would be very difficult to sink, according to a self-proclaimed carrier expert who wrote an article. He went on to say that what you would do is merely disable it, by taking-out the rudder and propellers. It seems to me you wouldn’t want to even try to destroy it, because if you somehow succeeded, and 5000 crew drowned, that could well escalate into the end of the world.
China signaled a long time ago that we should all play at bumper boats – – they deployed these gigantic (12,000 tons!) “coast guard cutters.” Ramming and “shouldering.” Worst-case scenario the exchange of small-arms fire. The U.S. response was to send a carrier group. As a nobody in pajamas, I think the military should have instead painted a diagonal orange stripe on a few double-hulled, flat-sided merchant ships that they bought cheap and converted to military use. And commenced shouldering. Cool fun, lets off steam, no WWIII.
“Tucker wasn’t really promoting the 2020 trutherism.”
Fair enough, but I’ll wager he gave it a lot more bandwidth than Sailer did, and I think the passages I cited affirm that. And as I recall, a vocal segment of Sailer’s peanut gallery was agog that he was letting yet another oh-so important bandwagon just pass him by, and what need have we of real evidence, anyway? Whereas in hindsight, it was more like dodging a bullet.
Yep, Jim Crow supporters probably love BLM for getting a lot of blacks killed! Seriously.
Nike founder Phil Knight donates $400 million to Portland’s negroes.
Maybe they want something totally different.
https://www.channelfutures.com/files/2013/11/cryptkeeper_0.gif
Much of it will go to bankers, then to the race grifters, to keep the steam pressure from rising.Replies: @Almost Missouri
They are popular for power projection, since you can intimidate weaker powers by just moving offshore. So they are for military bulling and threats, not great power conflicts.
Submarines are also a threat, but they also fire smart missiles, cruise missiles, etc. Smart undersea mines are also a threat. Which is probably why China won't invade Taiwan.
Russia can barely keep it's one big carrier afloat. They are hugely difficult and very expensive to operate. Even NATO members like the UK and France can barely operate small carriers.Replies: @SafeNow, @Anonymous
You noticed that, did you?
Unless you’ve served aboard a carrier you have no idea how difficult. But we’ve been doing it successfully for generations. And the ONI (no, not 鬼, ‘though that has led to some hilarious confusion during lectures at 海上自衛隊幹部学校 ) knows all about Chinese military threats.
Along the same lines, I watch the birds at my feeder every day. They're a reminder that life goes on day after day, season after season, year after year
Some days, though, I need more than one reminder. Thank you, Buzz.
“Re” build?
Maybe they want something totally different.
Tucker has been fired from Fox News. One story says it's due to the Dominion (voting machine corp.) defamation lawsuit settlement with a figure of 700-odd million $ by Fox and another that it's some BS sexual harassment at the office business (sounded extremely stupid even from NPR).
That's it. I don't get depressed much, but this is not sitting well with me. From 30 years ago - missed the anniversary on my blog - with the Government gassing, burning and shooting of 70 American men, women and children to this. 30 years ago, I didn't know when, but I was sure Americans would fight back before it was too late. Now, I'm not confident about it.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Barnard, @Abe, @Jenner Ickham Errican, @anonymous, @tyrone, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @VinnyVette, @Kylie, @Reg Cæsar
Dominion as in the Dominion of Canada, in a Chinatown of which it is based.
Is it me, or should this make us want to support the Woke Left?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That's way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do.
White wigger nationalists have been entertaining fantasy thoughts of ending immigration and deporting blacks "back to Africa" since the dawn of the internet. They have accomplished nothing and are still just whining on the internet all day.
Meanwhile the Mighty Left has enabled 15,000 blscks to kill themselves while SILMULTANEOUSLY reducing taxes by cuts to police budgets. The White population has not been meaningfully impacted by this at all.
AND, the Republicans are working to ban abortion in the South which shall surely increase the number of black children born, mostly to the most wretched black women.
Guys, what is going on here? It's almost as if we're living in the Twilight Zone where up is down and left is right. The people who openly despise blacks and taxes are foolishly advocating for political platforms that will shelter and increase the black population while costing us more in taxes. The people who claim to love blacks and hate whites push policies that will kill them and put more money in white people's pockets.
Which side is going to wake up and join the other first? That is the question?Replies: @Kylie, @Almost Missouri, @Thea, @Bill Jones, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Sollipsist
Sounds good, but as the great Thomas Sowell has said, there are no solutions, there are only tradeoffs.
The “Deaths of Exuberance” has a key problem, the relative vs. absolute dilemma. While the death count is relatively high, in absolute terms not so much.
The tradeoff is MORE — ahem — “exuberance” that is disruptive, anti-social , and anarchic but which is not necessarily deadly to its participants — such as car jacking and Wilding/Twerking events in high-end most White upscale shopping districts, and other sorts of exuberant mob activity.
Tradeoffs, boys and girls, tradeoffs.
That made me smile.
Along the same lines, I watch the birds at my feeder every day. They’re a reminder that life goes on day after day, season after season, year after year
Some days, though, I need more than one reminder. Thank you, Buzz.
But I guess you've been keeping those all to yourself so far...Replies: @prime noticer
is Steve gonna comment how Alec Baldwin just straight up got out of a murder or manslaughter charge because he’s a famous Democrat movie star? or is Steve not gonna comment about that because…Baldwin is a famous movie star. Steve DOES love his actors, does love his now long gone era of movies and movie stars.
wonder what Steve would say if Tom Hanks clearly killed somebody, then straight up got out of it strictly because he’s a famous Democrat movie star.
https://twitter.com/kyrieeleison60/status/1650644535523811328
Before Boomers: 85% want meaning/philosophy
After Boomers: 75% want financially well off.
Other generations have come and gone through Harvard, but none seem to have measurably moved the needle the way Boomers did.
Where’s my flower?
Is it me, or should this make us want to support the Woke Left?
I mean, if Steve is correct, the Woke Left has reduced the most reckless of the black population by 15,000 in two years.
That's way more than what the Republican Party has managed to do.
White wigger nationalists have been entertaining fantasy thoughts of ending immigration and deporting blacks "back to Africa" since the dawn of the internet. They have accomplished nothing and are still just whining on the internet all day.
Meanwhile the Mighty Left has enabled 15,000 blscks to kill themselves while SILMULTANEOUSLY reducing taxes by cuts to police budgets. The White population has not been meaningfully impacted by this at all.
AND, the Republicans are working to ban abortion in the South which shall surely increase the number of black children born, mostly to the most wretched black women.
Guys, what is going on here? It's almost as if we're living in the Twilight Zone where up is down and left is right. The people who openly despise blacks and taxes are foolishly advocating for political platforms that will shelter and increase the black population while costing us more in taxes. The people who claim to love blacks and hate whites push policies that will kill them and put more money in white people's pockets.
Which side is going to wake up and join the other first? That is the question?Replies: @Kylie, @Almost Missouri, @Thea, @Bill Jones, @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia, @Sollipsist
We’re talking about the same people that convinced their supporters to take the ‘vaccine.’ In the long run, they’re just increasing the odds for their disbelieving opponents.
But the long run for them is the next fiscal year or the next election cycle. They’ll be long gone before the odds turn against them… if indeed that time ever comes. A dying supermajority can hold out a long time against a thriving fraction.
If you’re not depressed you’re not paying attention!
But seriously, yes it’s important to distract yourself regularly. The state of our once-great nation ranges from parlous to hideous but there are a lot of great things in the world too. Don’t stay immersed in the mess 24/7.
Corvinus ,not deplorable, what a shame.
None of these are the fault of the health care industry.
Demographics are destiny. Health care outcomes in the US would be similar under other health care models.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mark G., @Almost Missouri, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre
None of these are the fault of the health care industry.
The clot shot has nothing to do with the health care industry?
He(Lemon) went out like such a sissy. Complaining,crying about how he learned about it thru his agent.
“After 17 years you’d think…,”sounding like a woman.
Oh shut up. Just go! Sissy!
Yikes! Nike reanimates corpses now?
OT: A study has discovered that boys with Gender Identity Disorder tend to have mothers who are either depressed or who have Borderline Personality Disorder. The mothers also tend to fight against their sons becoming independent.
https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(10)60067-6/pdf
https://www.unz.com/isteve/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-parent-reports-on-1655-possible-cases/#comment-5926849
With a little money, they could do great things — in Ghana.
It is entirely consistent to build a morally strong society with orderly civil life and not embrace wokeness..
One could argue it is the hallmark of classic Americana.Replies: @Kylie, @Kylie, @Anonymous
“Desiring a moral society where individuals , even ones I don’t particularly like, aren’t frequently murdered over petty insults isn’t anti-white.”
I replied to this already but I don’t think I was clear enough.
For me, it’s not about individuals, it’s about groups. I don’t hate members of any demographic just because they are in that demographic. I spent years in a multi-racial, multi-ethnic neighborhood during which I had daily contact with people from all over the world. So I tend to see people as individuals.
But there are certain attitudes, traits and beliefs that I utterly loathe, wherever I find them. And they are more prevalent in some demographics than others.
If I want to live in a conservative white society, that is only because I think it’s easier. There’s less chance for cultural misunderstandings because everyone is more or less on the same page. Shared values and culture are important to me.
But it’s never about the individuals who are murdered over petty insults. It’s about the unbridgeable gap that represents between their culture (in which that’s acceptable) and mine (in which it’s not).
After delivering his statement, Mr. Knight walked outside, faced into a stiff wind, and pissed.
And, by the way, the real serious threat to aircraft carriers (and all surface vessels) is submarines.Replies: @kaganovitch
And, by the way, the real serious threat to aircraft carriers (and all surface vessels) ̶i̶s̶ ̶s̶u̶b̶m̶a̶r̶i̶n̶e̶s̶.̶ is Diversity. FIFY
If you want to focus on personnel, the problem is lowering standards. You need patriotic, highly qualified individuals who are strongly motivated to do the job. Race, ethnicity, gender, religion and national origin are all irrelevant as long as the first three criteria are met.
Bongino is out at FOX too. Someone is prepping for the 2024 race, but I don’t think it’s Tucker and Bongino.
Ok who?
I guess we get to wait and see what great things they do with the $400 million.
OT: Another test case for Sailer’s law.
1 killed, 4 injured in SF North Beach shooting, police say
https://abc7news.com/shooting-san-francisco-person-shot-killed-north-beach/13178286/
I knew a boomer who had been hardcore drinking since the 1980s. Took him until 2016 to finally die of fatty liver disease. Our human bodies can withstand a lot of abuse.
One thing that does not contribute to American life expectancy is black crime. You're extremely unlikely to die from black crime if you're not a young black male.Replies: @Pixo, @Wilkey
Life expectancy in mostly-white European countries appears to be about 3-5 years higher than white life expectancy in the US. Black crimes rates are probably responsible, indirectly, for at least some of that. Not being able to live close to work, or go for a stroll through a safe neighborhood at night most certainly has some impact on that.
By the way Tucker Carlson just got sacked from Fox for his lying and indecency.
Die angry racist.Replies: @VinnyVette, @Rocko
By the way Tucker Carlson just got sacked from Fox for his lying and indecency.
Suck a…
Bongino is out at FOX too. Someone is prepping for the 2024 race, but I don’t think it’s Tucker and Bongino.
Ok who?
Nobody is stressed by black crime except other black people.
The commute times increased because America never built decent roads, your roads are built at a snail's pace and are broken before they open.
Healthy and workable communities are the white communities. Move out of the ghetto you penny pinching Jew.
Black crime has more than paid for itself in gunshot medical research. The United States has the best gunshot medical expertise in the world thanks to black crime. We export this knowledge to foreigners for big money and we never lose more than 3000 soldiers per decade in war anymore.
Quit bitching about black people, dude. The government is never going to ban black people over these frivolous ass reasons.
You have to ban them YOURSELF.
I can't believe boomers are thinking they are going to get black people deported over "commute times". LMFAAAAAAAAOOOOOOOO.
Complain about something the government actually wants to fix, like middle and upper middle class women's birth rates.
Something that will actually help your pitiful ass get your ethnostate you want so bad.Replies: @Nicholas Stix
What a stupid, dishonest assertion. No wonder you go double-anonymous!
He’s 85 and obituary-shopping. Besides, it would violate the U.S. Civil Rights Act.
I replied to this already but I don't think I was clear enough.
For me, it's not about individuals, it's about groups. I don't hate members of any demographic just because they are in that demographic. I spent years in a multi-racial, multi-ethnic neighborhood during which I had daily contact with people from all over the world. So I tend to see people as individuals.
But there are certain attitudes, traits and beliefs that I utterly loathe, wherever I find them. And they are more prevalent in some demographics than others.
If I want to live in a conservative white society, that is only because I think it's easier. There's less chance for cultural misunderstandings because everyone is more or less on the same page. Shared values and culture are important to me.
But it's never about the individuals who are murdered over petty insults. It's about the unbridgeable gap that represents between their culture (in which that's acceptable) and mine (in which it's not).Replies: @Mike Conrad
Culture is Everything. Which is why those who are busy destroying our culture have made it a point to train everyone to think about skin color instead.
I've spent a lot of time thinking about our culture and its willful destruction. But I've never thought of it in those terms.
You've given me a new angle on an old preoccupation (obsession). Thank you.Replies: @Mike Conrad
Alec Baldwin must be pretty low status. A truly great actor doesn’t do his own killing.
Only a small portion of the black population is problematic (males ages 17-30). When black men get to their 30s their behavior and mental faculties improve substantially.
Black women, black children, and black adult males cause little trouble.
There are already over a milion black men in prison. So 15,000 is actually a significant starting point for such a tiny segment of the population.
I wish it wasn't so. Unfortunately a significant number of young black men are sleepwalking in a lawless stupor.
Having said that, your chances or being harmed by one are near zero if you stop going in to their neighborhoods to buy drugs and stop trying to live there to save money for weekend meals at Red Lobster.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
“When black men get to their 30s their behavior and mental faculties improve substantially.”
Today’s Paper Of Record.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12008435/Killer-murdered-grandfather-running-car-jailed-26-years.html
The local Sheffield paper reported he’d been slung out of a woman’s flat at 5 am, then smashed the computer on the concierge’s desk downstairs, and the victim, just packing his fishing gear, was the second person to turn him down when he wanted a lift.
When the deceased was born in 1960, the black population of the UK was maybe 40-50,000, concentrated in London and the seaports like Liverpool and Cardiff. The chances of being murdered in Sheffield at 6 am by an angry and violent black guy were pretty negligible.
“Hey, did you know it’s 30 years since racists killed Stephen Lawrence?”
https://web.archive.org/web/20010713004907/http://www.right-now.org/archive/rn27/jfcronin.htm
When the deceased was born in 1960, the black population of the UK was maybe 40-50,000, concentrated in London and the seaports like Liverpool and Cardiff. The chances of being murdered in Sheffield at 6 am by an angry and violent black guy were pretty negligible.
"Hey, did you know it's 30 years since racists killed Stephen Lawrence?"
https://twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/status/1648415201300029441
https://web.archive.org/web/20010713004907/http://www.right-now.org/archive/rn27/jfcronin.htmReplies: @J.Ross
How many cameras in that area?
In 2022 Sheffield, quite a few - security cams plus Ring doorbells.
In 1993-7 south-east London, hardly any, perhaps in shops, banks and petrol stations.
The clips I saw from past Friday show he had an expectation to be on the air last night with more. If he were to resign, would he not put a lot more coal on the fire at the end, with nothing to lose?
In fact, they HAD to fire him suddenly last minute. Just as with some computer guy with access to the database, they had to be scared he’d spill his guts out with as more truth than the Regime could deal with.
It’d be great if he’d run for office.
I said yesterday, he just moved to Florida, where both Republican front runners for president live. I’m guessing Carlson will be on the Trump ticket, or at minimum a campaign advisor. Could be DeSantis, who knows, but I doubt he moved there to retire and play golf at 53.
Yes it would be nice if he tosses his hat in the ring.
“Culture is Everything. Which is why those who are busy destroying our culture have made it a point to train everyone to think about skin color instead.”
I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about our culture and its willful destruction. But I’ve never thought of it in those terms.
You’ve given me a new angle on an old preoccupation (obsession). Thank you.
Lol @ these stupid fucking Twitter idiots.
Kids are primarily concerned about their financial success because Boomers and Generation X destroyed the American economy for young people.
It was primarily this “life philosophy” bullshit that destroyed it. “Life philosophy” was never a “traditional American value”, it’s something the Me generation invented in the Me decade. It’s a byproduct of exuberance. “Life philosophy” a.k.a new age bullshit is something you do when you’ve inherited a utopian economy where you have the luxury to entertain such puerile bullshit. That utopia has now been burned to ashes, and young people must now be pragmatic and results oriented again. The real American values.
I'm in an interesting position, it would seem, in that cultural Boomers simply didn't have much direct influence over my life, aside from in 20/20 hindsight some bad Boomer bosses, but for software and systems development bad management continued after they started getting this sort of power. And I'm not sure if there was a real golden age before them, vs. history recording some wild successes.
So for my early Silent Generation parents and my siblings and myself, college was a place to gain skills and that degree ticket needed after the signaling power of the high school diploma dropped to near zero. Also note Griggs v. Duke Power in 1971 started the end of testing as we'd done so successfully to win our part of WWII, thus everyone leaning even more on higher education signaling.
So none of us went to college to "find ourselves," and our parent's lessons about the Great Depression and WWII years were underlined by the economic mess the whole 1970s were. Which wasn't exactly roses for the Boomers unless they'd already gotten a good job they could keep during this period. My personal Boomer friends worked in sectors not hit so hard, like academia, government or government funded sectors, and/or IT.Replies: @Anon
No one is stressed by black crime. Over half the population enjoys listening to blacks rapping about crime, and most of these people live in neighborhoods where they never see blacks. Get out of your crusty trailer and talk to people. Hip Hop has been the most popular genre for decades now. Black crime is awesome, its entertainment.
Steve, protect yourself.Replies: @HA, @OK Boomer
How? Another dose of comirnaty? Are you allowed to get a sixth serving?
So much Science!
You didn’t even address my point. How is Trump a true conservative? Go ahead, boy, prove it.
He cares more about the fate of America than of the world. I.e., he's not a GloboHomo stooge, like all the rest of them.
And "true conservative" is a stupid term that means nothing.Replies: @Corvinus
Yes, the Deep State controls Fox now. And it has a dossier on Tucker, so he’d be foolish to run for President.
A voting machine is not riggable, unless the Chinese did it.
Just as Covid, which was not man-made, except it was made by the Chinese.
True capitalism has never been tried – the Chinese and Putin are not allowing it.
https://www.jaacap.org/article/S0890-8567(10)60067-6/pdfReplies: @res
More about that paper here.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/rapid-onset-gender-dysphoria-parent-reports-on-1655-possible-cases/#comment-5926849
How is Trump a true conservative?
He cares more about the fate of America than of the world. I.e., he’s not a GloboHomo stooge, like all the rest of them.
And “true conservative” is a stupid term that means nothing.
Platitudes are not evidence. And he is part of Globohomo—his son in law is Jewish and he had numerous affairs outside of marriage.
“And “true conservative” is a stupid term that means nothing.”
Just like true American?
Just those two words ballooned into "750 pages" of regulations per a close friend in the business, and I'm sure plenty of people here can attest to how some doctors and healthcare workers started paying more apparent attention to their computer than their patient in question. That's because they have to enter in enough data to, in one GUI, turn a set of red lights green.
The system I'm now using eventually moved to adding a transcriptionist to follow every doctor, they do nothing but carry and use a laptop, although part of that is sending out prescriptions in consultation with the patient.
Might also note how friction like this has force so many independent practitioners into working for the man, like my local hospital systems. That's going to have all sorts of effects, some increasing and some decreasing productivity, could be the balance is negative.Replies: @Eagle Eye, @Almost Missouri
Hmm, I had assumed that the silent young women carrying iPads omnipresent during medical exams were just there to see my naked body, but I guess your explanation could also be true…
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No doubt recent government mandates have made healthcare even more inefficient, but even the most extreme inefficiency should only make healthcare very low ROI, it should never push healthcare ROI below zero, but that is what happened.
Most of the world gets about an extra year of life per head from an additional $500/head/year of medical spending. The US, being much less efficient, was getting about an extra year of life per head from an additional $3000/head/year of medical spending. So that is about the 1/6 the efficiency of Europe, East Asia, Israel, Canada, etc. That’s pretty lame, but it’s not actively harmful.
Making everything super expensive, unwieldy, and inefficient should make the cost/head/year rise even further, say to $10,00 or even to $20,000/head/year, but it should never turn negative no matter how close to zero it gets. Yet in 2014, it turned decisively negative. The US now loses about 3 months per head of life expectancy for every additional $1000/head/year it spends. The US healthcare system is actively shortening its citizens’ lives now.
For reference, the chart is here:
https://ourworldindata.org/us-life-expectancy-low
Incidentally, while the US in the 1970s was on the more expensive side of the pack, it seems to be in the early 1980s that it first seriously diverged from the herd in terms of efficiency, going from the generally prevailing $500/head/year spending per additional life-year to $3000/head/year spending per additional life-year. I’m sure lefties would instantly say that it is somehow Reagan’s fault, though how he accomplished this immediately upon assuming office against Democratic majorities in Congress would remain unexplained. I can imagine that there are possible political explanations for this, though I don’t recall any political activity on the scale of Obamacare in the early 1980s. In fact, I don’t recall any healthcare-related politics from that era at all. Maybe the shift to HMOs?
It is around the time that the obesity epidemic began, so maybe whatever is causing that is also making healthcare less effective. But since obesity affects other countries too even if not so severely I would still expect to see some obesity-effect in other countries’ numbers, but they don’t seem to be there.
This 2018 AMA article gives some numbers.
https://www.ama-assn.org/about/research/employed-physicians-now-exceed-those-who-own-their-practicesThe apparent lull in the trend between 1994 and 2012 is interesting. Is that real or something like changing the category definitions (see below)?
This 2021 AMA article shows a recent acceleration in the trend.
https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-analysis-shows-most-physicians-work-outside-private-practiceBTW, notice the subtle shift there from "owned their practices" to "worked in physician-owned practices." I expect that means the numbers above understate the trend, but that needs some more thought which I don't have time for right now. This excerpt from the first link gives a better idea of the possible categories. I would like to see the time series for "private practice."Also relevant (from first link).Replies: @Almost Missouri
The big political things were a great deal of the mess being set in motion going way, way before Reagan's inauguration, including some good things the Democrats did like ICC (trains and trucks) and air travel deregulation, and Carter getting a clue no one before him did and making Paul Volcker the chairman of the Federal Reserve in 1979.
Reagan just continued those sorts of thing, but for immediate relief (note the above, I was distracted and not following this really closely so my picture is no doubt incomplete) the only really big things he did was fossil fuel deregulation, instantly ending most of the 1970s "energy crisis."
But politics was a part of what followed, his tax rate cuts were phased in over three years, absolutely predictably putting a great deal of economic activity in stasis until the end of that period (just in time for the 1984 election, the Democratic Congress was not too bright, see Tip O'Neil), and Reagan was "convinced" to massively increase FICA taxes, which were regressive and provided a lot of extra money which was immediately spent (the so called "lock box" is pure fiction when it comes to ground truths).
So things were tough during that period, although you'd have to ask/look if there wasn't an easing as of 1983-4. But the higher price levels of course continued as inflation does, Carter gifted us with a peak around 13% per year (and much more honestly calculated than it is today). Hmmm, new doctors coming into the system would have had much higher rates, college tuition after a lag exploded because like everyone else, all their inputs were more expensive; you should probably try to adjust these figures for that, and more honest ones like the Shadow Stats guys maybe are.
TL;DR: in the period being examined, secular economic trends hit doctors and healthcare in general very hard like most everyone and everything else.Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Ralph L
Regarding health outcomes, a little commented on fact is how medical schools have been preferentially admitting Leftists for decades. Oh it’s easy for the admission committee to tell (they interview them, after all) and easy to pick them out when you have many more applicants than spaces.
This means that doctors skew sharply Progressive, which makes them absolutely weak willed followers of whatever the establishment narrative says. Hence, they crumpled in the face of obvious, farcical Covid policies. They hooked people up to respirators and watched them die, even after it was clear and well understood that respirators were the wrong approach. They didn’t even want to TRY HCQ and Ivermectin, or offer Vitamin D, because the regulatory bodies told them not to. They happily push expensive but useless drugs like Statins, and harmful and totally useless crap like flu shots. They hand out antidepressants, mood stabilizers and all the rest of that poisonous junk like candy, even to children. Why? Because Big Pharma tells them to, and Progressives never, ever question Big Brother. Hell, a lot of them probably even believe a low fat diet full of “healthy grains” is the way to go. They think fat black pot smoking ghetto dwellers are unhealthier because of systemic racism.
The only area of medical care that has gotten better is trauma care. Everything else has gotten worse, but the hypnotized Progressive medical establishment, which now can’t even tell a woman from a man, sees nothing.
Elon is posting stuff like "Demographics is destiny" on twitter. they aren't gonna allow him and Carlson to form some kind of team. the left sees and breaks up any collaboration on the right, just like the intelligence agency of any military would do. make sure the enemy cannot coordinate their units and concentrate fire.
the most important thing for the left now is that rightists do not see and encounter each other on the internet and start talking and coordinating. make sure each person is an individual independent atom that can't work with any other. you stop any counteraction that way and reduce them to ineffective units.Replies: @ben tillman
This was what MacDonald’s third book was about.
The interesting thing about the Harvard graph is that the shift corresponds almost precisely to the Baby Boom generation. The shift begins when they enter college. The shift ends when they leave.
Before Boomers: 85% want meaning/philosophy
After Boomers: 75% want financially well off.
Other generations have come and gone through Harvard, but none seem to have measurably moved the needle the way Boomers did.
https://ourworldindata.org/us-life-expectancy-lowIncidentally, while the US in the 1970s was on the more expensive side of the pack, it seems to be in the early 1980s that it first seriously diverged from the herd in terms of efficiency, going from the generally prevailing $500/head/year spending per additional life-year to $3000/head/year spending per additional life-year. I'm sure lefties would instantly say that it is somehow Reagan's fault, though how he accomplished this immediately upon assuming office against Democratic majorities in Congress would remain unexplained. I can imagine that there are possible political explanations for this, though I don't recall any political activity on the scale of Obamacare in the early 1980s. In fact, I don't recall any healthcare-related politics from that era at all. Maybe the shift to HMOs? It is around the time that the obesity epidemic began, so maybe whatever is causing that is also making healthcare less effective. But since obesity affects other countries too even if not so severely I would still expect to see some obesity-effect in other countries' numbers, but they don't seem to be there.Replies: @res, @That Would Be Telling
I would propose the number of physicians as employees rather than practice owners as a factor. Increased overhead (and an increase in the percentage of overhead over time per employee, c.f. college administrators) accompanied by less personal attention for patients. (this roughly matches your “shift to HMOs”, but non-HMO employers (e.g. hospitals) also matter and my metric is conveniently tracked by the AMA)
This 2018 AMA article gives some numbers.
https://www.ama-assn.org/about/research/employed-physicians-now-exceed-those-who-own-their-practices
The apparent lull in the trend between 1994 and 2012 is interesting. Is that real or something like changing the category definitions (see below)?
This 2021 AMA article shows a recent acceleration in the trend.
https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-analysis-shows-most-physicians-work-outside-private-practice
BTW, notice the subtle shift there from “owned their practices” to “worked in physician-owned practices.” I expect that means the numbers above understate the trend, but that needs some more thought which I don’t have time for right now. This excerpt from the first link gives a better idea of the possible categories. I would like to see the time series for “private practice.”
Also relevant (from first link).
Was there a sudden shift in physician employment in the early 1980s that didn't happen at any other time? The life expectancy/$ curve is fairly straight other than the two elbows, which implies each elbow is due to a discrete cause rather than an ongoing shift. That's why Obamacare explains the 2014 elbow so neatly.Replies: @res
I do.
I suggest starting here:
https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2021/02/recent-evidence-on-dysgenic-trends-february-2021/
To take one example, this high quality Icelandic study. You can see in figure 2 there was an abrupt decrease in the rate of dysgenic decline around the 1945 birth cohort.
https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1612113114Replies: @Almost Missouri
Okay, I plowed through your & Kirkegaard’s links. They basically all say that modern society is dysgenic, which I don’t think is a surprise. One study noted that earlier in the Holocene, fertility was eugenic, which I also don’t think is a surprise. None of them say anything about abortion, which is what I thought we were talking about, unless you deem mass abortion to be part of modern society (which it is) in which case it it is confirmed as dysgenic.
There will never be a definitive answer about abortion and crime/dysgenics because there will never be a way to control for larger and more important variables.Replies: @Almost Missouri
No one seems to remember that the Dominion thing was the idea of Democrat Lin Wood.
The real problem with them is that they are used at all. Though Dominion is named for the Dominion of Canada, Canada does not use voting machines nor do most non-US voting jurisdictions. Sticking all the votes into an unauditable and easily erasable black box is contrary to very concept of voting. And it's not like the adoption of these things has made voting faster, more efficient, or more reliable, rather the opposite. So why use them? The prospect of government contracting $ plus Americans' misguided love of technology, as far as I can tell.
The real election story was the same old vote stealing the Democrats have been doing for decades in Machine cities: Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. They just kicked it up to an unprecedented level of shamelessness in 2020. Mail-in voting made it easier and less auditable of course. So the Dems want to preserve that option too. But the "conservative" media got lost in the Dominion labyrinth. Or just did nothing, like the Republicans in general.Replies: @res
“How many cameras in that area?”
In 2022 Sheffield, quite a few – security cams plus Ring doorbells.
In 1993-7 south-east London, hardly any, perhaps in shops, banks and petrol stations.
This 2018 AMA article gives some numbers.
https://www.ama-assn.org/about/research/employed-physicians-now-exceed-those-who-own-their-practicesThe apparent lull in the trend between 1994 and 2012 is interesting. Is that real or something like changing the category definitions (see below)?
This 2021 AMA article shows a recent acceleration in the trend.
https://www.ama-assn.org/press-center/press-releases/ama-analysis-shows-most-physicians-work-outside-private-practiceBTW, notice the subtle shift there from "owned their practices" to "worked in physician-owned practices." I expect that means the numbers above understate the trend, but that needs some more thought which I don't have time for right now. This excerpt from the first link gives a better idea of the possible categories. I would like to see the time series for "private practice."Also relevant (from first link).Replies: @Almost Missouri
Okay, that’s a plausible explanation, but it seems to be a gradual trend, whereas the life expectancy/$ graph really has a sharp elbow change at two places: early 1980s and 2014.
Was there a sudden shift in physician employment in the early 1980s that didn’t happen at any other time? The life expectancy/$ curve is fairly straight other than the two elbows, which implies each elbow is due to a discrete cause rather than an ongoing shift. That’s why Obamacare explains the 2014 elbow so neatly.
I think it is useful to think about life expectancy and expenditure both separately and together. I would expect the effect I noted to have a quick (and fairly dramatic) effect on expenditures but a time lagged and more diffuse effect on life expectancy.
Regarding an elbow as reflective of discrete cause rather than ongoing shift, I think that is a valuable insight. But I think graphing the separate dimensions by year might cast some more light. For example, it looks to me like the most substantial 5 year cost jump was 2000-2005. Why was that?
How about we try to draw out the underlying trends and causal links a bit? Here is my initial cut. Please feel free to add, critique, decompose differently, etc.
Some basic trends.
1. More overhead relative to doctoring. I think the employment trend is a decent marker for this, but there are other factors. For example, HIPPA in 1996. Or increases in malpractice lawsuits and insurance costs.
2. More expensive doctoring. This includes pharmaceutical costs, high tech medical equipment, increased specialist salaries.
3. More doctoring. This includes more and more comprehensive insurance coverage (with ObamaCare being something of a step function) along with cultural shifts (e.g. going to a doctor when you have the sniffles).
4. Less personal and more time compressed doctoring. I think the employment trend is also a decent marker for this. Root cause an increased emphasis on finances rather than care. Related to 1. and IMHO partly an attempt to preserve the bottom line given 1.
5. Obesity and some other health habits have had negative trends. Smoking is an obvious example of the opposite. Also decreased air pollution.
Some possible causal factors and conclusions.
A. 1. obviously increases costs for a given level of care.
B. 2. obviously increases costs, but changes care. Which may be good or bad.
C. 3. (by itself) obviously increases both costs and amount of care. The latter may be good or bad.
D. 4. in theory decreases costs (but IMHO A and B dominate so not in reality). I think this negatively impacts care though. An important question is how do those balance (ROI)?
E. For 5. the decline in smoking should have both decreased costs and improved life expectancy. I think this contributed to the relatively good results your graph shows from 1970 to 1985 (though they pale next to other countries results). But since then the negative trends (e.g. obesity) have overwhelmed things.
https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends
F. To my mind this is the complicated one. What is the effect of increased care on life expectancy? I would envision diminishing returns with ROI (I being care, R being life expectancy) potentially going negative as care becomes overly aggressive.
G. As I alluded to above, changes in cost can happen in very short time periods in response to a stimulus. Changes in life expectancy are much more delayed (usually, Covid being a notable exception) which makes them harder to evaluate and assign causes.
This got a fair ways afield, but what do you think?
P.S. I'm curious what that plot would look like with a log cost axis. Also would love to see a new version with data through 2022.Replies: @Almost Missouri
I’m shocked by the figures regarding marriage. Wow.
…….he wants to conserve America , girl.
Yeah I never quite understood the voting machine obsession. To be sure, the machines are opaque, privately owned, run proprietary software, and have a bunch of other flaws, but for the same reasons it is extremely hard to identify and demonstrate their corrupt use.
The real problem with them is that they are used at all. Though Dominion is named for the Dominion of Canada, Canada does not use voting machines nor do most non-US voting jurisdictions. Sticking all the votes into an unauditable and easily erasable black box is contrary to very concept of voting. And it’s not like the adoption of these things has made voting faster, more efficient, or more reliable, rather the opposite. So why use them? The prospect of government contracting $ plus Americans’ misguided love of technology, as far as I can tell.
The real election story was the same old vote stealing the Democrats have been doing for decades in Machine cities: Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. They just kicked it up to an unprecedented level of shamelessness in 2020. Mail-in voting made it easier and less auditable of course. So the Dems want to preserve that option too. But the “conservative” media got lost in the Dominion labyrinth. Or just did nothing, like the Republicans in general.
https://ourworldindata.org/us-life-expectancy-lowIncidentally, while the US in the 1970s was on the more expensive side of the pack, it seems to be in the early 1980s that it first seriously diverged from the herd in terms of efficiency, going from the generally prevailing $500/head/year spending per additional life-year to $3000/head/year spending per additional life-year. I'm sure lefties would instantly say that it is somehow Reagan's fault, though how he accomplished this immediately upon assuming office against Democratic majorities in Congress would remain unexplained. I can imagine that there are possible political explanations for this, though I don't recall any political activity on the scale of Obamacare in the early 1980s. In fact, I don't recall any healthcare-related politics from that era at all. Maybe the shift to HMOs? It is around the time that the obesity epidemic began, so maybe whatever is causing that is also making healthcare less effective. But since obesity affects other countries too even if not so severely I would still expect to see some obesity-effect in other countries' numbers, but they don't seem to be there.Replies: @res, @That Would Be Telling
Strangely enough, my family was in the doctor’s office support business during this period, although I went off to college at the end of the 1970s so my info from them on sparse but hits the big things. For example, we’re talking about having to borrow money at 20% or more to buy needed capital equipment, which until the rates went down resulted in just treading water.
The big political things were a great deal of the mess being set in motion going way, way before Reagan’s inauguration, including some good things the Democrats did like ICC (trains and trucks) and air travel deregulation, and Carter getting a clue no one before him did and making Paul Volcker the chairman of the Federal Reserve in 1979.
Reagan just continued those sorts of thing, but for immediate relief (note the above, I was distracted and not following this really closely so my picture is no doubt incomplete) the only really big things he did was fossil fuel deregulation, instantly ending most of the 1970s “energy crisis.”
But politics was a part of what followed, his tax rate cuts were phased in over three years, absolutely predictably putting a great deal of economic activity in stasis until the end of that period (just in time for the 1984 election, the Democratic Congress was not too bright, see Tip O’Neil), and Reagan was “convinced” to massively increase FICA taxes, which were regressive and provided a lot of extra money which was immediately spent (the so called “lock box” is pure fiction when it comes to ground truths).
So things were tough during that period, although you’d have to ask/look if there wasn’t an easing as of 1983-4. But the higher price levels of course continued as inflation does, Carter gifted us with a peak around 13% per year (and much more honestly calculated than it is today). Hmmm, new doctors coming into the system would have had much higher rates, college tuition after a lag exploded because like everyone else, all their inputs were more expensive; you should probably try to adjust these figures for that, and more honest ones like the Shadow Stats guys maybe are.
TL;DR: in the period being examined, secular economic trends hit doctors and healthcare in general very hard like most everyone and everything else.
How long term are medical office loans typically anyway?
Maybe there's some obscure change to the tax code that altered the nature of medical spending?Replies: @That Would Be Telling
My brother and I got a home mortgage at 12 5/8ths in '86, so still pretty high. About two years later, we refinanced at 8.5%. The big plunge in gas prices was in '85.
Was there a sudden shift in physician employment in the early 1980s that didn't happen at any other time? The life expectancy/$ curve is fairly straight other than the two elbows, which implies each elbow is due to a discrete cause rather than an ongoing shift. That's why Obamacare explains the 2014 elbow so neatly.Replies: @res
That sort of fits with the 1994-2012 lull I noted, but not completely. In particular, the late 1980s decline in employment (only number I saw was 1988 to 1994) does not match the first elbow (looks like 1983 to me). I’m pretty sure the trend started before 1983, but don’t have numbers to validate.
I think it is useful to think about life expectancy and expenditure both separately and together. I would expect the effect I noted to have a quick (and fairly dramatic) effect on expenditures but a time lagged and more diffuse effect on life expectancy.
Regarding an elbow as reflective of discrete cause rather than ongoing shift, I think that is a valuable insight. But I think graphing the separate dimensions by year might cast some more light. For example, it looks to me like the most substantial 5 year cost jump was 2000-2005. Why was that?
How about we try to draw out the underlying trends and causal links a bit? Here is my initial cut. Please feel free to add, critique, decompose differently, etc.
Some basic trends.
1. More overhead relative to doctoring. I think the employment trend is a decent marker for this, but there are other factors. For example, HIPPA in 1996. Or increases in malpractice lawsuits and insurance costs.
2. More expensive doctoring. This includes pharmaceutical costs, high tech medical equipment, increased specialist salaries.
3. More doctoring. This includes more and more comprehensive insurance coverage (with ObamaCare being something of a step function) along with cultural shifts (e.g. going to a doctor when you have the sniffles).
4. Less personal and more time compressed doctoring. I think the employment trend is also a decent marker for this. Root cause an increased emphasis on finances rather than care. Related to 1. and IMHO partly an attempt to preserve the bottom line given 1.
5. Obesity and some other health habits have had negative trends. Smoking is an obvious example of the opposite. Also decreased air pollution.
Some possible causal factors and conclusions.
A. 1. obviously increases costs for a given level of care.
B. 2. obviously increases costs, but changes care. Which may be good or bad.
C. 3. (by itself) obviously increases both costs and amount of care. The latter may be good or bad.
D. 4. in theory decreases costs (but IMHO A and B dominate so not in reality). I think this negatively impacts care though. An important question is how do those balance (ROI)?
E. For 5. the decline in smoking should have both decreased costs and improved life expectancy. I think this contributed to the relatively good results your graph shows from 1970 to 1985 (though they pale next to other countries results). But since then the negative trends (e.g. obesity) have overwhelmed things.
https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends
F. To my mind this is the complicated one. What is the effect of increased care on life expectancy? I would envision diminishing returns with ROI (I being care, R being life expectancy) potentially going negative as care becomes overly aggressive.
G. As I alluded to above, changes in cost can happen in very short time periods in response to a stimulus. Changes in life expectancy are much more delayed (usually, Covid being a notable exception) which makes them harder to evaluate and assign causes.
This got a fair ways afield, but what do you think?
P.S. I’m curious what that plot would look like with a log cost axis. Also would love to see a new version with data through 2022.
The real problem with them is that they are used at all. Though Dominion is named for the Dominion of Canada, Canada does not use voting machines nor do most non-US voting jurisdictions. Sticking all the votes into an unauditable and easily erasable black box is contrary to very concept of voting. And it's not like the adoption of these things has made voting faster, more efficient, or more reliable, rather the opposite. So why use them? The prospect of government contracting $ plus Americans' misguided love of technology, as far as I can tell.
The real election story was the same old vote stealing the Democrats have been doing for decades in Machine cities: Philly, Milwaukee, Atlanta, etc. They just kicked it up to an unprecedented level of shamelessness in 2020. Mail-in voting made it easier and less auditable of course. So the Dems want to preserve that option too. But the "conservative" media got lost in the Dominion labyrinth. Or just did nothing, like the Republicans in general.Replies: @res
Well, there is the “obvious” reason–to make fraud easier.
As an early member of Gen X I kinda doubt this, but recasting what you later say you’re blaming Boomers for being in a unique situation vs. causing that when they didn’t actually have much in the way of hands on the levers of the society, aside from the whole protest thing.
You need to elaborate on this bald assertion.
I’m in an interesting position, it would seem, in that cultural Boomers simply didn’t have much direct influence over my life, aside from in 20/20 hindsight some bad Boomer bosses, but for software and systems development bad management continued after they started getting this sort of power. And I’m not sure if there was a real golden age before them, vs. history recording some wild successes.
So for my early Silent Generation parents and my siblings and myself, college was a place to gain skills and that degree ticket needed after the signaling power of the high school diploma dropped to near zero. Also note Griggs v. Duke Power in 1971 started the end of testing as we’d done so successfully to win our part of WWII, thus everyone leaning even more on higher education signaling.
So none of us went to college to “find ourselves,” and our parent’s lessons about the Great Depression and WWII years were underlined by the economic mess the whole 1970s were. Which wasn’t exactly roses for the Boomers unless they’d already gotten a good job they could keep during this period. My personal Boomer friends worked in sectors not hit so hard, like academia, government or government funded sectors, and/or IT.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_generation
I'm in an interesting position, it would seem, in that cultural Boomers simply didn't have much direct influence over my life, aside from in 20/20 hindsight some bad Boomer bosses, but for software and systems development bad management continued after they started getting this sort of power. And I'm not sure if there was a real golden age before them, vs. history recording some wild successes.
So for my early Silent Generation parents and my siblings and myself, college was a place to gain skills and that degree ticket needed after the signaling power of the high school diploma dropped to near zero. Also note Griggs v. Duke Power in 1971 started the end of testing as we'd done so successfully to win our part of WWII, thus everyone leaning even more on higher education signaling.
So none of us went to college to "find ourselves," and our parent's lessons about the Great Depression and WWII years were underlined by the economic mess the whole 1970s were. Which wasn't exactly roses for the Boomers unless they'd already gotten a good job they could keep during this period. My personal Boomer friends worked in sectors not hit so hard, like academia, government or government funded sectors, and/or IT.Replies: @Anon
“The whole protest thing” is what destroyed America; not individuals in positions of power. The collective mass of everyday boomrrs wrecked the economy with their awful personal decisions. It wasn’t s beaky nosed Jew clasping his hands together in whatever meme you’re thinking about from 4chan.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Me_generation
No. You are wrong.
If you want to focus on personnel, the problem is lowering standards. You need patriotic, highly qualified individuals who are strongly motivated to do the job. Race, ethnicity, gender, religion and national origin are all irrelevant as long as the first three criteria are met.
It does appear Carlson was fired. I hadn’t seen the Murdoch statement until this morning.
I said yesterday, he just moved to Florida, where both Republican front runners for president live. I’m guessing Carlson will be on the Trump ticket, or at minimum a campaign advisor. Could be DeSantis, who knows, but I doubt he moved there to retire and play golf at 53.
Yes it would be nice if he tosses his hat in the ring.
The link was to show the rate of within-group dysgenic decline is decreasing for western whites.
There will never be a definitive answer about abortion and crime/dysgenics because there will never be a way to control for larger and more important variables.
If that's true, is the argument that that is becasue of abortion?That's true of all of the social sciences. Nevertheless, it is possible to distinguish more and less plausible causes by looking at circumstances resembling semi-controlled experiments.
For example, the Roe v. Wade decision unleashed a tsunami of abortions, peaking in the mid- to late-1970s. So if abortion is eugenic, the effect should be most pronounced among the birth cohorts of the mid- to late-1970s. I don't know what the IQ results were for those cohorts, but the crime results were pretty dismal—about the worst ever. So it's not lookin' too eugenic.
Similarly, certain states, e.g. NY & CA, legalized abortion a few years before Roe, so they are kind of a natural experiment in validating the Roe Effect. And lo and behold, teen crime in those states also rose a few years before the the rest of the country, which tends to confirm that abortion is the decisive factor ... in a bad way.
I've spent a lot of time thinking about our culture and its willful destruction. But I've never thought of it in those terms.
You've given me a new angle on an old preoccupation (obsession). Thank you.Replies: @Mike Conrad
And thank you; furthermore this observation is similar to how TPTB keep us angrily divided on racial issues so that we don’t come together on economic issues.
The worst nightmare of the Ruling Class is that everyone below them might one day unite against them. So they spend some of their limitless resources to ensure that racial enmity remains white-hot.
Unfortunately, it’s effective. And so we see large portions of the population arrayed violently against those who might otherwise make good comrades.
It is entirely consistent to build a morally strong society with orderly civil life and not embrace wokeness..
One could argue it is the hallmark of classic Americana.Replies: @Kylie, @Kylie, @Anonymous
Not everything white is good. Modern day white people’s tendency to day-dream sluggish thoughts about equality, freedumb, etc is annoying. I thought we had realized by now that the civil war was a mistake?
There are bad components of our culture/race. They can be weeded out.
It’s ok to admit you lack the intellectual horsepower to answer such a question in depth.
He cares more about the fate of America than of the world. I.e., he's not a GloboHomo stooge, like all the rest of them.
And "true conservative" is a stupid term that means nothing.Replies: @Corvinus
“He cares more about the fate of America than of the world. I.e., he’s not a GloboHomo stooge, like all the rest of them.”
Platitudes are not evidence. And he is part of Globohomo—his son in law is Jewish and he had numerous affairs outside of marriage.
“And “true conservative” is a stupid term that means nothing.”
Just like true American?
Remember the Kittyhawk!
The big political things were a great deal of the mess being set in motion going way, way before Reagan's inauguration, including some good things the Democrats did like ICC (trains and trucks) and air travel deregulation, and Carter getting a clue no one before him did and making Paul Volcker the chairman of the Federal Reserve in 1979.
Reagan just continued those sorts of thing, but for immediate relief (note the above, I was distracted and not following this really closely so my picture is no doubt incomplete) the only really big things he did was fossil fuel deregulation, instantly ending most of the 1970s "energy crisis."
But politics was a part of what followed, his tax rate cuts were phased in over three years, absolutely predictably putting a great deal of economic activity in stasis until the end of that period (just in time for the 1984 election, the Democratic Congress was not too bright, see Tip O'Neil), and Reagan was "convinced" to massively increase FICA taxes, which were regressive and provided a lot of extra money which was immediately spent (the so called "lock box" is pure fiction when it comes to ground truths).
So things were tough during that period, although you'd have to ask/look if there wasn't an easing as of 1983-4. But the higher price levels of course continued as inflation does, Carter gifted us with a peak around 13% per year (and much more honestly calculated than it is today). Hmmm, new doctors coming into the system would have had much higher rates, college tuition after a lag exploded because like everyone else, all their inputs were more expensive; you should probably try to adjust these figures for that, and more honest ones like the Shadow Stats guys maybe are.
TL;DR: in the period being examined, secular economic trends hit doctors and healthcare in general very hard like most everyone and everything else.Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Ralph L
Good point, I had forgotten about the high interest rates of the era. Still, if the early-1980s elbow were only interest-rate-driven, I would expect the ROI curve to go back north as the high-interest loans are paid off through the next two decades, but that didn’t happen.
How long term are medical office loans typically anyway?
Maybe there’s some obscure change to the tax code that altered the nature of medical spending?
There was an imposed new "Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988" that ... was not well received. You can tell how utterly, totally pozzed Wikipedia is by not mentioning how it resulted in the very powerful Dan Rostenkowski being chased in the streets of Chicago by a mob of angry senior citizens. It was later said he asked a political advisor how long would it be before that fiasco was forgotten (the program was quickly canceled), was told it would be in his obituary.... (Well, maybe that didn't happen as pozzed as the MSM got).
But I can't think of anything other than the general secular trends. OK, maybe the 1982 FICA tax increase I mentioned resulted in Medicare loosening its purse strings somewhat. Medical imaging started getting revolutionized by CAT scanners (now we have MRI and PET as well) and for a while there were big issues about how their capital costs would be covered, plus also see things like Canada having zero waiting time for pets, but long for humans until that was "fixed" in the obvious way, but I don't think that lines up with an early 1980s discontinuity.Replies: @Almost Missouri
I think it is useful to think about life expectancy and expenditure both separately and together. I would expect the effect I noted to have a quick (and fairly dramatic) effect on expenditures but a time lagged and more diffuse effect on life expectancy.
Regarding an elbow as reflective of discrete cause rather than ongoing shift, I think that is a valuable insight. But I think graphing the separate dimensions by year might cast some more light. For example, it looks to me like the most substantial 5 year cost jump was 2000-2005. Why was that?
How about we try to draw out the underlying trends and causal links a bit? Here is my initial cut. Please feel free to add, critique, decompose differently, etc.
Some basic trends.
1. More overhead relative to doctoring. I think the employment trend is a decent marker for this, but there are other factors. For example, HIPPA in 1996. Or increases in malpractice lawsuits and insurance costs.
2. More expensive doctoring. This includes pharmaceutical costs, high tech medical equipment, increased specialist salaries.
3. More doctoring. This includes more and more comprehensive insurance coverage (with ObamaCare being something of a step function) along with cultural shifts (e.g. going to a doctor when you have the sniffles).
4. Less personal and more time compressed doctoring. I think the employment trend is also a decent marker for this. Root cause an increased emphasis on finances rather than care. Related to 1. and IMHO partly an attempt to preserve the bottom line given 1.
5. Obesity and some other health habits have had negative trends. Smoking is an obvious example of the opposite. Also decreased air pollution.
Some possible causal factors and conclusions.
A. 1. obviously increases costs for a given level of care.
B. 2. obviously increases costs, but changes care. Which may be good or bad.
C. 3. (by itself) obviously increases both costs and amount of care. The latter may be good or bad.
D. 4. in theory decreases costs (but IMHO A and B dominate so not in reality). I think this negatively impacts care though. An important question is how do those balance (ROI)?
E. For 5. the decline in smoking should have both decreased costs and improved life expectancy. I think this contributed to the relatively good results your graph shows from 1970 to 1985 (though they pale next to other countries results). But since then the negative trends (e.g. obesity) have overwhelmed things.
https://www.lung.org/research/trends-in-lung-disease/tobacco-trends-brief/overall-tobacco-trends
F. To my mind this is the complicated one. What is the effect of increased care on life expectancy? I would envision diminishing returns with ROI (I being care, R being life expectancy) potentially going negative as care becomes overly aggressive.
G. As I alluded to above, changes in cost can happen in very short time periods in response to a stimulus. Changes in life expectancy are much more delayed (usually, Covid being a notable exception) which makes them harder to evaluate and assign causes.
This got a fair ways afield, but what do you think?
P.S. I'm curious what that plot would look like with a log cost axis. Also would love to see a new version with data through 2022.Replies: @Almost Missouri
Yeah, I wondered about that too. The chart shows a bump around that time, but it quickly returns to the trendline, so it appears that HIPAA didn’t have much lasting effect on ROI.
In general, I concur that 1. – 5. are all events that increase medical overhead, but none of them look like obvious candidates for causing a discrete “elbow” in ROI. Maybe there was just some synergy event horizon that occurred in the early 1980s.
In theory, #2 should improve ROI if the new pharma, equipment, and specialists really are an improvement over the old pharma, equipment, and lack of specialization. The fact that at no point is there any visible improvement in ROI is something of an indictment of all of these supposed “advances” in medicine.
Likewise, there have been a number of initiatives that were supposed to make medicine more efficient, irrespective of any advances in the underlying medicine, such as HMOs and “managed care”. The absence of any visible improvement in ROI at any time likewise condemns all those as failures. The fact that other advanced countries barely even have an ROI problem at all just drives the point home further.
As mentioned earlier, obesity (#5) might have something to do with elbows, though it is ongoing problem it may have crossed some kind of cardiovascular threshold in the early 1980s.
If you look at the non-US countries, you can see a gradual bending to the right, which I imagine is the “natural” rate of diminishing returns. The question is why the US is so radically to the right of that when it did not used to be.
Yeah, I gotta think the data exist to to add a few more years to the chart. The site says they got the data from the OECD, but it doesn’t exactly where. If you can find the source, you can rechart it as you please.
For the first point, assume demand for healthcare is infinite (because it effectively is) but maybe adding more healthcare past a certain point does not affect the metrics you're using. Life expectancy for the US is one of the very worst you can use because of our demographics and the extremes we go to saving babies.
"Other advanced countries" all have some form of socialized medicine, right? And among other things vampire a lot off the US which doesn't have as limited by government of a market, depending (we tend to focus on Anglosphere ones, which I gather include some of the worst in the world like Canada and the U.K.). And for the periods we're talking about, different, generally homogeneous demographics.
Besides I posit not normalizing the statistics for these differences, the ones for babies having extreme, outsized life expectancy effects, you're also probably assuming they're all honest, which I've heard unreliability is not for example true of Japan. Something about, following tradition, you don't count babies as being real until they've survived three days out of the womb. More reliably, that its suicide rate is overstated because the classic family murder-suicide is scored as all suicides....
At the other end, see the Left wave Cuba's extremely good Official statistics in our faces.Replies: @Almost Missouri
They’re trawling Tiny’s comments for pharmaceutical brands now?
How long term are medical office loans typically anyway?
Maybe there's some obscure change to the tax code that altered the nature of medical spending?Replies: @That Would Be Telling
These were as far as I know (I was off to college by then) open ended and variable rate. But I could be wrong.
Can’t think of anything in that period.
There was an imposed new “Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988” that … was not well received. You can tell how utterly, totally pozzed Wikipedia is by not mentioning how it resulted in the very powerful Dan Rostenkowski being chased in the streets of Chicago by a mob of angry senior citizens. It was later said he asked a political advisor how long would it be before that fiasco was forgotten (the program was quickly canceled), was told it would be in his obituary…. (Well, maybe that didn’t happen as pozzed as the MSM got).
But I can’t think of anything other than the general secular trends. OK, maybe the 1982 FICA tax increase I mentioned resulted in Medicare loosening its purse strings somewhat. Medical imaging started getting revolutionized by CAT scanners (now we have MRI and PET as well) and for a while there were big issues about how their capital costs would be covered, plus also see things like Canada having zero waiting time for pets, but long for humans until that was “fixed” in the obvious way, but I don’t think that lines up with an early 1980s discontinuity.
A waste of $400 million. Whatever it buys will be ghettofied quickly.
Much of it will go to bankers, then to the race grifters, to keep the steam pressure from rising.
They really have only one function.
I think you might be framing this incorrectly.
For the first point, assume demand for healthcare is infinite (because it effectively is) but maybe adding more healthcare past a certain point does not affect the metrics you’re using. Life expectancy for the US is one of the very worst you can use because of our demographics and the extremes we go to saving babies.
“Other advanced countries” all have some form of socialized medicine, right? And among other things vampire a lot off the US which doesn’t have as limited by government of a market, depending (we tend to focus on Anglosphere ones, which I gather include some of the worst in the world like Canada and the U.K.). And for the periods we’re talking about, different, generally homogeneous demographics.
Besides I posit not normalizing the statistics for these differences, the ones for babies having extreme, outsized life expectancy effects, you’re also probably assuming they’re all honest, which I’ve heard unreliability is not for example true of Japan. Something about, following tradition, you don’t count babies as being real until they’ve survived three days out of the womb. More reliably, that its suicide rate is overstated because the classic family murder-suicide is scored as all suicides….
At the other end, see the Left wave Cuba’s extremely good Official statistics in our faces.
None of these are the fault of the health care industry.
Demographics are destiny. Health care outcomes in the US would be similar under other health care models.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Mark G., @Almost Missouri, @VinnyVette, @Mike Tre
“None of these are the fault of the health care industry. ”
I haven’t seen a comment this obtuse in a while. Thanks.
“If Ben Shapiro (Daily Wire) can offer Steven Crowder nearly 9 figures ”
It should be concerning that a fraud like Shapiro has that kind of scratch to be throwing around. Who are his benefactors and what are their motivations?
But still, yeah, I had the same thought as you. I don't know anyone who watches Daily Wire (is it video? maybe it's audio, in which case I don't know any listeners) and I don't watch/listen myself, and it seems aimed at slightly disaffected youth, which isn't exactly a premium market, so $50mil or whatever it was seemed like a suspiciously large amount of money for a somewhat obscure youtuber or podcaster or whatever he is.
I think I saw him once or twice on RedEye back in the day. He seemed genial and mildly funny/clever, but not enough to hold my attention.
In related news, Cook County SA just let off two teen aged negroes with misdemeanor charges after they stole a car and instigated a chase that killed a 6 month old kid.
There will never be a definitive answer about abortion and crime/dysgenics because there will never be a way to control for larger and more important variables.Replies: @Almost Missouri
So you’re saying that the first derivative is still negative, but the second derivative is decreasing?
If that’s true, is the argument that that is becasue of abortion?
That’s true of all of the social sciences. Nevertheless, it is possible to distinguish more and less plausible causes by looking at circumstances resembling semi-controlled experiments.
For example, the Roe v. Wade decision unleashed a tsunami of abortions, peaking in the mid- to late-1970s. So if abortion is eugenic, the effect should be most pronounced among the birth cohorts of the mid- to late-1970s. I don’t know what the IQ results were for those cohorts, but the crime results were pretty dismal—about the worst ever. So it’s not lookin’ too eugenic.
Similarly, certain states, e.g. NY & CA, legalized abortion a few years before Roe, so they are kind of a natural experiment in validating the Roe Effect. And lo and behold, teen crime in those states also rose a few years before the the rest of the country, which tends to confirm that abortion is the decisive factor … in a bad way.
The big political things were a great deal of the mess being set in motion going way, way before Reagan's inauguration, including some good things the Democrats did like ICC (trains and trucks) and air travel deregulation, and Carter getting a clue no one before him did and making Paul Volcker the chairman of the Federal Reserve in 1979.
Reagan just continued those sorts of thing, but for immediate relief (note the above, I was distracted and not following this really closely so my picture is no doubt incomplete) the only really big things he did was fossil fuel deregulation, instantly ending most of the 1970s "energy crisis."
But politics was a part of what followed, his tax rate cuts were phased in over three years, absolutely predictably putting a great deal of economic activity in stasis until the end of that period (just in time for the 1984 election, the Democratic Congress was not too bright, see Tip O'Neil), and Reagan was "convinced" to massively increase FICA taxes, which were regressive and provided a lot of extra money which was immediately spent (the so called "lock box" is pure fiction when it comes to ground truths).
So things were tough during that period, although you'd have to ask/look if there wasn't an easing as of 1983-4. But the higher price levels of course continued as inflation does, Carter gifted us with a peak around 13% per year (and much more honestly calculated than it is today). Hmmm, new doctors coming into the system would have had much higher rates, college tuition after a lag exploded because like everyone else, all their inputs were more expensive; you should probably try to adjust these figures for that, and more honest ones like the Shadow Stats guys maybe are.
TL;DR: in the period being examined, secular economic trends hit doctors and healthcare in general very hard like most everyone and everything else.Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Ralph L
So things were tough during that period, although you’d have to ask/look if there wasn’t an easing as of 1983-4.
My brother and I got a home mortgage at 12 5/8ths in ’86, so still pretty high. About two years later, we refinanced at 8.5%. The big plunge in gas prices was in ’85.
It should be concerning that a fraud like Shapiro has that kind of scratch to be throwing around. Who are his benefactors and what are their motivations?Replies: @Almost Missouri
To be fair to the Daily Wire, their CFO or similar said that the Crowder offer was a real stretch for them, and that the offer wasn’t just for Crowder but also for his production crew, over several years.
But still, yeah, I had the same thought as you. I don’t know anyone who watches Daily Wire (is it video? maybe it’s audio, in which case I don’t know any listeners) and I don’t watch/listen myself, and it seems aimed at slightly disaffected youth, which isn’t exactly a premium market, so $50mil or whatever it was seemed like a suspiciously large amount of money for a somewhat obscure youtuber or podcaster or whatever he is.
I think I saw him once or twice on RedEye back in the day. He seemed genial and mildly funny/clever, but not enough to hold my attention.
There was an imposed new "Medicare Catastrophic Coverage Act of 1988" that ... was not well received. You can tell how utterly, totally pozzed Wikipedia is by not mentioning how it resulted in the very powerful Dan Rostenkowski being chased in the streets of Chicago by a mob of angry senior citizens. It was later said he asked a political advisor how long would it be before that fiasco was forgotten (the program was quickly canceled), was told it would be in his obituary.... (Well, maybe that didn't happen as pozzed as the MSM got).
But I can't think of anything other than the general secular trends. OK, maybe the 1982 FICA tax increase I mentioned resulted in Medicare loosening its purse strings somewhat. Medical imaging started getting revolutionized by CAT scanners (now we have MRI and PET as well) and for a while there were big issues about how their capital costs would be covered, plus also see things like Canada having zero waiting time for pets, but long for humans until that was "fixed" in the obvious way, but I don't think that lines up with an early 1980s discontinuity.Replies: @Almost Missouri
furries?
No, they just stopped offering premium medical imaging service to pets, everyone has to wait a long time.
Of course with the escape value of the US which is a necessary component of their system, such as it is, and I read that not too long ago they allowed a private healthcare sector to exist and develop.
I’d ask what Canadian furries would be like, but seeing as how I don’t know anything about the US type….
No, they just stopped offering premium medical imaging service to pets, everyone has to wait a long time.
Of course with the escape value of the US which is a necessary component of their system, such as it is, and I read that not too long ago they allowed a private healthcare sector to exist and develop.
For the first point, assume demand for healthcare is infinite (because it effectively is) but maybe adding more healthcare past a certain point does not affect the metrics you're using. Life expectancy for the US is one of the very worst you can use because of our demographics and the extremes we go to saving babies.
"Other advanced countries" all have some form of socialized medicine, right? And among other things vampire a lot off the US which doesn't have as limited by government of a market, depending (we tend to focus on Anglosphere ones, which I gather include some of the worst in the world like Canada and the U.K.). And for the periods we're talking about, different, generally homogeneous demographics.
Besides I posit not normalizing the statistics for these differences, the ones for babies having extreme, outsized life expectancy effects, you're also probably assuming they're all honest, which I've heard unreliability is not for example true of Japan. Something about, following tradition, you don't count babies as being real until they've survived three days out of the womb. More reliably, that its suicide rate is overstated because the classic family murder-suicide is scored as all suicides....
At the other end, see the Left wave Cuba's extremely good Official statistics in our faces.Replies: @Almost Missouri
agree
Agree. All of the curves arch somewhat toward the right of the graph, which is probably the diminishing returns you are describing.
Yeah, I mentioned this in another comment. The result in the life expectancy/$ graph is that the US starts out shifted to the right of other countries, but initially everyone has about the same slope. The arresting/alarming thig about the US is that while other countries’ curves arc gently to the upper right with gradually diminishing returns, the US lurches off horizontally and then negatively, like a crippled space shuttle launch.
Demographics can’t explain this without a sudden, massive influx of people with rather bad health. Which, to be fair, we might have—except for the “sudden” part.
Yes. My understanding is that when you take into account all the Medicare/Medicaid/Obamacare/subsidies/state/local/etc. expenditures, the overwhelming majority of US healthcare spending is in fact governmental, so it is something of a myth that the US is a “free market” healthcare system. Similarly, most of the continental European healthcare systems are also a public-private mix like the US, it’s just that their government is more efficient and competent, and their populations aren’t as messed up as ours is. We have a bit of a misapprehension about this because our Anglophone neighbors (Canada to the north and the UK across the pond) have uncommonly totalitarian governmental healthcare systems, which gives us a skewed impression of the world beyond our borders. But once you get past the UK, the continetal systems look, ironically, more like our own, once you get past the language barrier.
Yes, but if we’re looking at changes in slope, the demographics don’t matter unless the demographics are also changing.
Japan’s curve is not noticeably different from the other non-US countries, so if so if they are misrepresentin’, they’re doing it in a plausible way.
Much of it will go to bankers, then to the race grifters, to keep the steam pressure from rising.Replies: @Almost Missouri
The part that goes to the race grifters will inflame the steam pressure to rise even further.
They really have only one function.
Immmigrants live longer than americans do. Keep coping, it’s boomer self destruction.
https://i0.wp.com/asiatimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Sergei-Shoigu.jpgReplies: @BB753, @Anonymous
The top UK government offices are 3/4ths Indian and black. In Biden’s cabinet, out of the 16 positions, 0 are WASPs and there are only 2 white Christian men, in relatively minor positions of Ag secretary and Veterans Affairs secretary.
Also, we tend to spend way more on the elderly than other countries. In the rest of the world, retirees don't get joint surgery unless they pay out of pocket. Over 75, cancer care is pain management.
And, if you compare Americans to the foreigners who they're most related to, we tend to live slightly longer. Whether it's worth the extra money, is hard to tell.Replies: @Spect3r
” retirees don’t get joint surgery unless they pay out of pocket. ”
Ah? What? Where are you getting this info from?
My 92-year-old neighbour got joint surgery last year through the public health system in Portugal.
Which book is that?
I never said you were wrong ,I said you were no “deplorable” i.e. Trump supporter…..Mitch McConnel and Mitt Romney would call themselves “true conservatives ” so maybe it’s a good thing Trump is not conservative inc…….when you are alone in the voting booth nov. 2023 do yourself a favor and vote Trump.
Trump is a train wreck. Like yourself. Serves you right to be a lemming.
By the way Tucker Carlson just got sacked from Fox for his lying and indecency.
Die angry racist.Replies: @VinnyVette, @Rocko
So did Don The Lemon from CNN. Guess which one of them is going to still be relevant?
And look at that. Yours wishing death on someone. That’s fine. Us Latinos will outbreed you first, racist little monkey.
You call someone lemming soiboi?
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