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From The Guardian:

Pinker’s progress: the celebrity scientist at the centre of the culture wars

How the Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker became one of the world’s most contentious thinkers

by Alex Blasdel
Tue 28 Sep 2021

… Many critics allege that Pinker’s recent remarks are part of a longer history of comments and behaviour that have come dangerously close to promoting pseudoscientific or abhorrent points of view. To take a single example: the journalist Malcolm Gladwell has called Pinker out for sourcing information from the blogger Steve Sailer, who, in Gladwell’s words, “is perhaps best known for his belief that black people are intellectually inferior to white people”.

Here’s the abhorrent and pseudoscientific information Pinker sourced from my blog

Can you predict who will be a good NFL quarterback?

Pinker used my analysis of two decades of NFL draft picks for his 2009 NYT review of a Gladwell book in which the then-superstar New Yorker writer had claimed:

The problem with picking quarterbacks is that [U. of Missouri quarterback] Chase Daniel’s performance can’t be predicted. The job he’s being groomed for is so particular and specialized that there is no way to know who will succeed at it and who won’t. In fact, Berri and Simmons found no connection between where a quarterback was taken in the draft—that is, how highly he was rated on the basis of his college performance—and how well he played in the pros.

Unsurprisingly, I found that while drafting quarterbacks is hard, NFL teams do much better than random.

Pinker’s review did permanent damage to Gladwell’s then-inflated reputation, so Gladwell lashed back in a letter to the Times arguing that I had cooties.

Paradoxically, my 10,000 hours critiquing Malcolm Gladwell’s 10,000 hours of practice theory both destroyed his reputation and vindicated his theory.

Back to the Guardian today:

Angela Saini, a science journalist and author of Superior: The Return of Race Science, told me that “for many people, Pinker’s willingness to entertain the work of individuals who are on the far right and white supremacists has gone beyond the pale”. When I put these kinds of criticisms to Pinker, he called it the fallacy of “guilt by association” – just because Sailer and others have objectionable views, doesn’t mean their data is bad. Pinker has condemned racism – he told me it was “not just wrong but stupid” – but published Sailer’s work in an edited volume in 2004,

That was my January 2003 article “Cousin Marriage Conundrum” that predicted the failure of Bush’s nation-building war in Iraq due to Iraq’s little known high rates of cousin marriage exacerbating its clannishness. Pinker has good taste as an editor.

and quotes Sailer’s positive review of Better Angels, among many others, on his website.

… “Depending on how much of a sense of humour you and your editor have, here’s an answer to the question, ‘Are there downsides to being famous?’” Pinker emailed me after I asked him about Epstein, Sailer, McGinn and others. “Yes. Journalists ask you to explain why you’ve been ‘associated with’ various people, out of the thousands you’ve interacted with over the decades, who’ve done something wrong.”

Jeffrey Epstein and me are up there together as wrongdoers …

(Colin McGinn was a mild-mannered philosophy professor who got proto-MeTooed in 2013 by a young lady’s boyfriend who felt her professor was becoming overly familiar in their banter.)

After all, Epstein prostituted hundreds of under-age jailbait girl, while I crunched FBI murder statistics in sophisticated spreadsheets.

Same difference.

 
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  1. These days, telling the truth is about the worst crime there is. And, ultimately, Pinker doesn’t believe in it, either, at least not the WHOLE truth.

    • Agree: Gordo
  2. Remember Oscar Wilde: “The only thing worse than being talked about…is not being talked about.”

  3. Herzog says:

    Presstitutes at work.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
  4. anonymous[320] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve Sailer didn’t kill himself.

  5. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:

    scientist at the centre of the culture wars

    LOL. That’s quite a hyperbole as far as Pinker is concerned.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  6. Well done. Pinker, at least, seems to think your “data first” approach is right.

    • Agree: Not Raul
  7. Every time someone says the word ‘pseudoscience’ I reach for my revolver. Or at least I would if I owned one.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • LOL: lavoisier
    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  8. Articles like this are full of innuendo and nonsense.

    The argument they are making is that Steve Sailer is a “bad person” because he believes that black people often have lower IQs than people in other racial groups.

    Having that opinion defines someone as “bad.” Not having that opinion is evidence that they are “good.”

    It continues in the same thread to then argue that Steven Pinker is also probably a “bad person” for having any association with now established bad person Steve Sailer.

    The Guardian is of course full of “good” people for judging and denouncing those two individuals as “bad”, as are the readers for their feelings of outrage and hatred.

    It is completely pathetic once you break it down.

  9. Altai says:

    This is basically the meta-narrative to the whole great awokening. The inability to consider the possibility that certain opinions aren’t only expressed by those you consider the political ‘enemy’ because they are integral to a political agenda in opposition to yours but because you’ve made them taboo to be expressed by people more at home in your political realm. So the cycle continues, only those who don’t care what others think or are extreme ideologues will express an opinion, the gatekeepers shriek and go ‘Look, see! Only skinheads think this because it’s a skinhead thing to think!’ and all the liberal professors who suppose differently keep their real thoughts closer and closer to their chests. A small minority dictates to everyone else who can’t come together to organise.

    The polling is clear, nobody, outside ethnic activists wants mass migration. (Because the only thing it’s good for is making your quality of life worse if you already live someplace) What I find interesting are people who don’t want more immigration but feel it’s morally impure, selfish and wrong to argue against it but who would, if the immigrationists lost, not really care.

    The best way to explain this to any liberal is to say that opinions on the negative effects of immigration and multiculturalism among American liberals is almost exactly, psychologically-speaking, the same as opinions on the reality of global warming among conservatives in the US.

    It can’t be real, because of the implications in terms of political aesthetics.

    The phrase ‘appalling vista’ would be a useful one to introduce to American political discourse.

    https://www.mactheknife.org/Quotations/Appalling_Vista.html

    • Thanks: Gabe Ruth
    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
  10. Angela Saini, a science journalist

    Correction. Angela Saini, a science denialist.

  11. I heard Pinker once spoke to Emmanuel Goldstein too.

    Pinker, Epstein, and Goldstein… Say, Steve, you aren’t by any chance one of (((them))) are you?

  12. Not going into this controversy- why is Pinker considered an “influential thinker”?
    Celebrity- yes, but what’s new about him?

    What has he discovered that has enriched or broadened our knowledge? True, he showed some courage a few times against race denialism, but other than that?

    Which are his seminal ideas- perhaps wrong, it doesn’t matter- that cannot be found even among old philosophers?

    I don’t see anything like that.

  13. Being referred to as “a thinker” would be more worrisome than being branded an abhorrent racist.

    At any rate, it’s funny to see Chase Daniel mentioned amid any controversy about anything. Possibly Mizzou’s greatest QB ever, his long NFL career has consisted mainly of holding for point-afters. Mizzou was able to recruit him because everyone else thought he was too short, but the coaches devised a crazy offense that split the offensive linemen way wide and let him see downfield.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  14. Angela Saini, a science journalist and author of Superior: The Return of Race Science, told me that “for many people, Pinker’s willingness to entertain the work of individuals who are on the far right and white supremacists has gone beyond the pale”. When I put these kinds of criticisms to Pinker, he called it the fallacy of “guilt by association” – just because Sailer and others have objectionable views, doesn’t mean their data is bad. Pinker has condemned racism – he told me it was “not just wrong but stupid” – but published Sailer’s work in an edited volume in 2004,

    Steve got Sainied …

  15. George says:

    What do Epstein, Sailer, McGinn have in common? An interest in sexual grooming? Doing it or writing about others doing it. Don’t forget those ‘The Dying Animal’ articles.

  16. ABCDE says:

    Always good to know what new meaning words are taking on. Steven Pinker is “contentious”. I take it this means he is smart, hard to refute, but not following the plan. “Contentious” is a predicate to being asked to publicly recant, followed by being arrested and shot anyway, in our future Union of Woke Socialist States. As for Sailer, the mention certainly added some new readers to this site.

  17. @Known Fact

    Chase Daniel is with the LA Chargers this season. He’s only started five games in his career, but teams like having him on their bench. He went undrafted, but maybe should have been.

  18. Anon[208] • Disclaimer says:

    • LOL: Abe
  19. @Altai

    The best way to explain this to any liberal is to say that opinions on the negative effects of immigration and multiculturalism among American liberals is almost exactly, psychologically-speaking, the same as opinions on the reality of global warming among conservatives in the US.

    This is a good idea except for the fact that many leftists believe conservatives can’t assess evidence and are just rubes who have been manipulated by big oil. Or in the case of immigration, by evil white supremacist masterminds (like Sailer). Trump is a laughable fool, except when discussing MAGA popularity–then he’s a dangerous devious demagogue. It’s the same problem as dealing with vegans–all contrary arguments or evidence are dismissed because of “big beef” or something.

    I think on HBD issues, Steve’s strategy of using sports is the most likely to get through. I have used some of Steve’s observations before to effect. For example, the paucity of black Navy SEALs and blacks among competitive swimmers. I brought that up once “in passing” with a guy two years ago. After the Olympics this year, he told me how happy he was to see a black guy medal in swimming because he remembered what I had told him. Apparently, he was so taken aback that he had read up on it after talking to me and failing to find factual error, he had a hole in his ideological bulwark that he couldn’t fill easily.

    That photo of Tiger Woods with the SEAL team is absolute gold. People should print it out and frame it to put it in their offices or whatever. No commentary, just let it hang there. If anyone asks, you’re a Tiger Woods fan–what a patriot!

  20. Flemur says:

    pseudoscientific or abhorrent points of view.

    Nowadays “pseudoscientific” means the same thing as “abhorrent”. It does not mean anything like “incorrect”, “false” or “unproven”.

    • Agree: Patrick in SC
    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  21. @Steve Sailer

    It’s very early but a Chargers-Rams super bowl is quite possible. Herbert looks extremely comfortable in the chaos of the pocket and looks to be the best of his class.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  22. Hi.

    Steve Sailer reminds me of the Joker. Look at this racist microaggression against poor Gambol. By the way, isn’t it playing into stereotypes to claim that an Asian is good at math?

    Coleman Reece is an evil WASP man. Like Sailer, Joker, and Epstein.

    Only Black inmates have the moral clarity necessary to save humanity.

  23. @Emblematic

    I feel the same about the over used term gaslighting these days.

  24. Mike Tre says:

    “ Unsurprisingly, I found that while drafting quarterbacks is hard, NFL teams do much better than random.”

    It’s a lot easier than the GM’s make it. Here’s a big hint: Don’t draft the black QB, ever.

    Take Justin Fields of the Bears. First game, 30 yards passing. It’s just one example of many.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    , @Rex Little
  25. El Dato says:

    … a longer history of comments and behaviour that have come dangerously close to promoting pseudoscientific or abhorrent points of view

    And horrifying a lefty is the ultimate crime of lèse-majesté. It might be enough to give them such a shock that they will require trans surgery and have to change their pronouns.

    Pinker has condemned racism – he told me it was “not just wrong but stupid”

    That’s okay then.

    Seen objectively, that would be mean that practically everybody (except the goodwhite limousine/champagne/caviar left) is not only wrong, but stupid – which comes self-defeatingly close to having racist opinions. It’s enough to make popular science writers invoke Gödel’s Incompleteness Theorem (completely without justification, I might add).

    Of course we are talking about the kind of “stupid” that leads to bad outcomes like being talked about in a Blairite rag, not the kind of “stupid” that leads you to badly misjudge the prospects of certain social experiments and possibly get macheted in the street.

    Does Pinker live in a hot neighborhood or not?

    Pinker is .. an advocate of evolutionary psychology and the computational theory of mind

    Then he knows he’s talking shit to make the Woke Witchfinder go away.

  26. Stormy Daniels plays Mario Kart.

  27. dearieme says:

    I saw somewhere that Pinker cited Climate Science/Global Warming as a topic where The Science is settled and the sceptics are madmen. So on that topic, if no other, he’s completely deluded.

    • Replies: @Ben tillman
    , @Dieter Kief
  28. dearieme says:

    The Guardian Lumps Me and Jeffrey Epstein Together

    Well, you didn’t kill yourself either.

    • LOL: ic1000
    • Replies: @NOTA
    , @Muggles
  29. Typically, the highest drafted QBs go to the worst teams. There, they will be pounded senseless for years. If they survive, the team may improve or they might get traded somewhere that they can begin a successful career. This kind of skews evaluation of the selection process.

    OT: BLM goals are now in direct contradiction to Antifa goals. Be interesting to see how their masters approach the task of bringing them back in line.
    https://aluckyduck.com/national-news/blm-takes-aim-at-new-york-city-mayor-declaring-his-vaccine-mandate-orders-racist/

  30. The problem with picking quarterbacks is that [U. of Missouri quarterback] Chase Daniel’s performance can’t be predicted. The job he’s being groomed for is so particular and specialized that there is no way to know who will succeed at it and who won’t. In fact, Berri and Simmons found no connection between where a quarterback was taken in the draft—that is, how highly he was rated on the basis of his college performance—and how well he played in the pros.

    Unsurprisingly, I found that while drafting quarterbacks is hard, NFL teams do much better than random.

    I can’t imagine that Pinker’s analysis is sound. There is a difference in terms of attention between teams drafting a putative franchise/starter quarterback of the future and drafting a “best available” quarterback with the expectation that he’ll be a third stringer and run a scout team for a few years. It just so happens that there are many highly drafted busts at the quarterback position.

    I’ve argued for a while that young quarterback is never a finished product out of college and success is much more than a measure of innate talent, football IQ, and desire on the part of the player. It seems to matter a lot to a young quarterback’s early success which team drafts him and the state of that team’s offense when he is first named a starter. Unfortunately, when the trend is picking quarterbacks at the top of the draft, the most highly rated quarterbacks tend to end up on very bad teams due to the way that draft position is allotted. So the top quarterback prospect often winds up in a situation which dooms him to learn the wrong lessons (often to avoid physical injury and pain) and develop bad habits. In other words, if the best quarterback prospect serially winds up in Cleveland (which has a history of highly drafted quarterbacks failing) with an offensive line in a shambles and pressure on the franchise to start the young quarterback in order to sell tickets, it’s a recipe for career disaster.

    Conversely, the 2016 draft saw two teams with fairly well established and highly rated offensive lines pick rookie quarterbacks at #1 and #2, and thereafter Jared Goff and Carson Wentz experienced some early success, made Pro Bowls, and led their teams on a path to a Super Bowl appearance for each. It was only after a few years that the limitations of their talents were revealed, and their respective teams moved on in other directions for the quarterback position.

    At other times when there are enough highly drafted quarterback busts, the NFL trend turns back to a more time-worn approach of drafting a quarterback of the future with relatively lower picks in the expectation that he will learn the offense over the course of a few years behind another starter and thereby spend time in development rather than learning “on the job.” NFL teams were for a time modelling the San Francisco 49ers’ “quarterback factory” process where Steve Young backed up Joe Montana for years, etc. Of course, the newer CBAs make it more difficult for franchises to take the slower (and likely more successful) approach of acclimating a young quarterback to the pro offense and the NFL generally.

  31. Dumbo says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    He’s Jewish. Like Harari, and other non-entities.
    And they keep promoting each other.
    If you don’t understand that…

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  32. Currahee says:

    Hate facts are intolerable and must be suppressed in the pursuit of truth.

  33. Forbes says:

    This is why newspapers and their (website) product are such a joke–they publish feature article that are all opinion and carry no news value. (I didn’t read the entire thing–if someone cares to point out the news value, I’d listen.)

  34. Forbes says:

    Well, at least they didn’t lump Steve with Jeffrey Dahmer…

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  35. (((OFF TOPIC))): Noticing in the news …

    TIME MAGAZINE: First Mrs. Maisel, Now Joan Rivers. Why Hollywood’s Jewish Women Are Rarely Played by Jewish Act[resses]

    by Sarah Seltzer

    When we learned this week that Kathryn Hahn would play Joan Rivers in a series on Showtime called The Comeback Girl, the choice seemed like a no-brainer. Hahn, who recently stole the show as the nosy-neighbor-slash-powerful-witch Agatha in Marvel’s WandaVision, truly has the chops to channel the iconic, sharp-tongued comedy legend.

    But something about the casting also landed funny. That’s because of a troubling trend: by playing Rivers, Hahn will swell the ranks of non-Jewish actresses who have portrayed Jewish women, fictional and real, recently. It’s happened with big-budget films like On the Basis of Sex, the Ruth Bader Ginsburg biopic in which the notably Jewish justice was played by (the lovely but not Jewish at all) Felicity Jones, …

    As Sarah Silverman said in a vent session to Howard Stern last year discussing this phenomenon: “Is it the biggest injustice in the world? No, but I’m noticing it.”

    https://time.com/6101055/jewish-women-not-cast-in-jewish-roles/

  36. @Steve Sailer

    Chase Daniel is with the LA Chargers this season. He’s only started five games in his career, but teams like having him on their bench. He went undrafted, but maybe should have been.

    I doubt Pinker understands that there are career quarterbacks like Chase Daniel whose value lies in teaching an offense to the team itself, helping shepherd younger and more highly talented quarterbacks to their starting roles, and in general taking the role of an unofficial coach-player. Their value is less in their ability to execute an offense in the NFL than it is in their ability to translate it on the practice or game field to a team’s offensive players.

    For example, when Doug Pederson took the Philadelphia job in 2016, he signed backup Chase Daniel away from Andy Reid’s Kansas City Chiefs (where Pederson was offensive coordinator) while Philadelphia drafted Carson Wentz at #2 overall. His job was more or less to help teach Pederson’s offense to Philadelphia’s offensive players in practice reps, etc. and help Wentz progress to become the eventual starter.

    In 1999, Pederson fulfilled a similar role for Andy Reid (who had signed Pederson away from Green Bay where Reid was the quarterbacks coach), teaching Reid’s offense to Philadelphia’s offensive players and serving as a short-term, interim starter to prepare the way for 1999 second overall pick quarterback Donovan McNabb whom Reid had just drafted.

    The idea in these cases is (to be blunt) that Pederson and Daniel were both much more expendable than the highly drafted McNabb and Wentz, and that the teams weren’t going to risk the health and careers of the latter while the offense was not yet competently “installed.”

    Nothing is worse for a young quarterback than an offense that doesn’t know its protections, and receivers who don’t run the correct routes. That’s how talented quarterback prospects learn bad habits – often out of self-preservation – and begin the slide to “bust” status.

  37. NOTA says:
    @dearieme

    Just don’t let them lump you in with John McAfee too, or you’re a goner for sure….

  38. I lump the Guardian with Pol Pot….

  39. Dan Hayes says:

    Steve,
    Off the top of my head, the few times you’ve ever been accorded any main-stream recognition (i.e., non-rightist) has been by Pinker and one (only) New York magazine article!

  40. NOTA says:

    When someone labels a claim of fact abhorent or hateful or racist or evil, or for that matter anti-American or communist, that’s a marker that either they’ve sabotaged their own brain or they’re trying to sabotage yours. Factual claims can be true or false, they can be more or less plausible given available evidence, they can be unsupported or well-supported, but they can’t have moral attributes.

    I have a relative with the Huntingtons gene, which she may well have passed to one or both of her kids. The implications of that are awful and upsetting, but the fact is just there, and moral condemnation or praise for it is silly. Getting mad at a doctor or lab for saying things that imply that she and her kids are likely to die a really ugly death as their brains start malfunctioning in middle age is human and natural, but won’t do a single thing to either help you know if it’s true or help you deal with it.

  41. J.Ross says:

    Reminder that Epstein (as a probable intelligence blackmailer) aggressively sought out celebrities and sponsored a seemingly respectable hard science charity, so there’s a ton of people who posed in photos with him who never misplaced their handkerchief with the pizza-related map on it. But Matt Groening does have really hairy feet.

  42. @JohnnyWalker123

    I like this game – the mainstream press brings someone on the air on multiple occasions to talk about one’s genitalia and get that humiliating bit if rumor broadly into the public’s conscious, but it’s still inappropriate to deny the characterization of one’s genitalia to women in any professional context.

    This is a ridiculous society ruled by malicious moral dwarves who have spent decades debasing it to arrive at this low point, but the same dwarves nevertheless comically preen that Donald Trump is unfit to lead it.

  43. J.Ross says:

    Ahh, that’s why Malcolm Gladwell was bitching: not because Steve is any reasonably recognizable kind of racist, but because Gladwell loosed a Gladwellianishly airy and effortless assertion, and Steve thoughtlessly rubbished it with readily available data and three seconds of math. This is the same as what Emmett Till felt in his last momemts.

  44. J.Ross says:
    @Forbes

    Actually, both Steve and Jeffrey Dahmer agree that general belief in God is a major factor in limiting crime.

  45. @Dumbo

    Sure, they keep promoting Sidney Coleman or Ernst Cassirer virtually no one has heard of …

  46. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I don’t follow the NFL but you do see a similar effect in college ball — is a team developing its QBs in an orderly succession, or throwing a freshman to the wolves due to injury or desperation? (Although I am seeing more very young college QBs who are somewhat up to the challenge, rather than deers-in-the-headlights)

    Another factor is whether these highly coveted QBs leave college a year too early. Blaine Gabbert was a real gamer at Mizzou but also a mistake-prone dumbshit who could have used another year of seasoning before being thrown to the wolves in Jacksonville.

  47. Fakers like Einstein, Von Neumann, Teller,Feynman, Gel-man etc? And that’s just in physics.
    Pinker made significant contributions in describing how language develops in humans and was on one of of the most influential critics of the Chomskyian approach. He is also a good popular writer including The language instinct discusses his research and puts it in context. The Blank Slate is one of the best refutations of the whole woke idiotic ideology.

  48. BB753 says:

    No surprise, here. Jeffrey Epstein was doing business with pretty much all the major American universities, and entertaining their professors and deans. Even Stephen Hawking was spotted on Lolita Island.

    • Replies: @Cortes
  49. @Mike Tre

    It’s a lot easier than the GM’s make it. Here’s a big hint: Don’t draft the black QB, ever.

    Take Justin Fields of the Bears. First game, 30 yards passing. It’s just one example of many.

    No it is actually really hard and has little to do with race.

    The problem is that college performance doesn’t necessarily translate to the NFL.

    Some NFL team spends years waiting for their draft pick and then blows it and 1/3 of their budget on some highly ranked college player that doesn’t last a season.

    Then some other team has a boring White guy in reserve who actually turns out to be really good but is only discovered after the main QB is injured.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Mike Tre
  50. @dearieme

    Yeah, that’s pretty stupid. It’s as if the concept of epistemology is alien to him. How does he imagine people are able to determine what the scientific facts are?

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
  51. Luke Lea says:

    I’m surprised there has been no mention of Tom Brady’s low draft pick (199th overall in the 6th—i.e., the next to the last round if I remember correctly. It’s not just that Bret Favre and other outstanding quarterbacks were not top ten choices (though they did make the top 100, which generally means by the 3rd round), but in Brady’s case we are talking about arguably the greatest quarterback in history (even though far from the best liked).

    The particular question I’m curious about is what was it about Brady’s high school and college record that was so extremely unimpressive as to cause recruiters to pretty much write him off. Did he have terrible stats?

  52. @Bardon Kaldian

    I don’t know if Pinker has ever discovered anything of note. But he’s a great popularizer. His book The Blank Slate was extremly important in the late 90s at exposing the insanely persistence of academia in refusing to recognize the genetic effects on behavior differences between individuals and genders. So that’s not nothing.

    He certainly knows the score on racial differences as well. And on occassion he has ever-so-gently pressed at the door of talking about whether respectable Academics can even talk about it, before realizing that, no, they can’t.

  53. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Did you know that in their respective first starts, Messrs. Plunkett, Montana, and Elway performed as follows:

    Plunkett, 9/19/71 – 6-15, 127, 2TDs and 1 int in a 20-6 win against the Oakland Raiders (John Madden was 0-2 at Schaefer Stadium).

    Montana, 12/2/79 5-12, 136, 0 TDs and 0 picks in a win against the St. Louis football Cardinals (Montana was replaced by Steve Deberg who rallied the 49ers to victory).

    Elway, 9/4/83 – 1-8, 14, no TDs and a pick in a win against the Steelers (once again, one Steve Deberg came off the bench and rallied the Broncos to victory).

  54. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I’ve argued for a while that young quarterback is never a finished product out of college and success is much more than a measure of innate talent, football IQ, and desire on the part of the player. It seems to matter a lot to a young quarterback’s early success which team drafts him and the state of that team’s offense when he is first named a starter.

    But there is no formula that can turn a quarterback into a Brady or Rodgers. That is why this is so difficult. There is no algorithm for finding a draft pick OR turning an average QB into a great one.

    SF spent a ton of time with Kaepernick and he actually got worse with training. He actually played better as an instinctive scrambler.

    The way around this problem is to cap the salaries and contracts of first year players. There needs to be a trial system for the NFL. With the current system some team on the bottom like the Browns pins all their hopes and dreams on a top draft pick QB. Well we know what happened there.

  55. The Guardian Lumps Me and Jeffrey Epstein Together

    See, NOW you can insert a tweet about Jeff Epstein, Johnny Walker! … even though, after having read the post, I see that tweets about Jeffrey Epstein would STILL have squat-all to do with the post.

    • LOL: JohnnyWalker123
  56. @Jack Armstrong

    The whole point of being an actor is that you pretend to be somebody who you are not.

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
  57. @Triteleia Laxa

    It continues in the same thread to then argue that Steven Pinker is also probably a “bad person” for having any association with now established bad person Steve Sailer.

    So, “Bad” is the new COVID-19. Well, it’s even worse if it spreads by computer. Could I get it from doorknobs? I can go back to wearing rubber gloves 24/7 if need be …

  58. zundel says:

    never mind chauvin — how many steve sailers are there anyway?

  59. This is really the future of how the mainstream deals with racial realists. The more we learn about genetics in general the more the noose will tighten. They will have no choice but to use shameless tactics like guilt by association.

    Was Steve also in Dallas during the same time as Ted Cruz Sr and Lee Harvey Oswald? Just trying to figure out if there is any truth to that rumor.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  60. Anonymous[561] • Disclaimer says:

    ” ….. White supremacists ….. gone beyond the pale ….”.

    A whiter shade of pale, no doubt.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  61. Anonymous[561] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    As a bit of light relief, and as an interlude, can someone please post a video of the 1968 Procol Harum hit.

  62. epebble says:

    OT:

    Here’s The Full List of MacArthur ‘Genius Grants’ Recipients 2021:

    This Year’s MacArthur ‘Genius Grants’ Were Just Announced—Here’s The Full Winner List
    https://www.npr.org/2021/09/28/1037957309/macarthur-genius-grants-full-list-2021

    [MORE]

    Hanif Abdurraqib, 38, music critic, essayist and poet

    “Forging a distinctive style of cultural and artistic criticism through the lens of popular music and autobiography.”

    Daniel Alarcón, 44, writer and radio producer

    “Chronicling the social and cultural ties that connect Spanish-speaking communities across the Americas.”

    Marcella Alsan, 44, physician-economist

    “Investigating the role that legacies of discrimination and resulting mistrust play in perpetuating racial disparities in health.”

    Trevor Bedford, 39, computational virologist

    “Developing tools for real-time tracking of virus evolution and the spread of infectious diseases.”

    Reginald Dwayne Betts, 40, poet and lawyer

    “Promoting the humanity and rights of individuals who are or have been incarcerated.”

    Jordan Casteel, 32, painter

    “Capturing everyday encounters with people of color in portraits that invite reciprocal recognition of our shared humanity.”

    Don Mee Choi, 59, poet and translator

    “Bearing witness to the effects of military violence and U.S. imperialism on the civilians of the Korean Peninsula.”

    Ibrahim Cissé, 38, cellular biophysicist

    “Developing microscopy tools to investigate the subcellular processes underlying genetic regulation and misfunction.”

    Nicole Fleetwood, 48, art historian and curator

    “Elucidating the cultural and aesthetic significance of visual art created by incarcerated people.”

    Cristina Ibarra, 49, documentary filmmaker

    “Crafting nuanced narratives about borderland communities, often from the
    perspective of Chicana and Latina youth.”

    Ibram X. Kendi, 39, American historian and cultural critic

    “Advancing conversations around anti-Black racism and possibilities
    for repair in a variety of initiatives and platforms.”

    Daniel Lind-Ramos, 68, sculptor and painter

    “Transforming everyday objects into assemblages that speak to the global connections inherent in Afro-Caribbean and diaspora legacies.”

    Monica Muñoz Martinez, 37, public historian

    “Bringing to light long-obscured cases of racial violence along the U.S.-Mexico border and their reverberations in the present.

    Desmond Meade, 54, civil rights activist

    “Working to restore voting rights to formerly incarcerated citizens and remove barriers to their full participation in civic life.”

    Joshua Miele, 52, adaptive technology designer

    “Developing devices to enable blind and visually impaired people to access
    everyday technologies and digital information.”

    Michelle Monje, 45, neurologist and neuro-oncologist

    “Advancing understanding of pediatric brain cancers and the effects of
    cancer treatments with an eye toward improved therapies for patients.”

    Safiya Noble, 51, digital media scholar

    “Highlighting the ways digital technologies and internet architectures magnify racism, sexism, and harmful stereotypes.”

    J. Taylor Perron, 44, geomorphologist

    “Deconstructing the physical processes that create landforms on Earth and other planetary bodies.”

    Alex Rivera, 48, filmmaker and media artist

    “Exploring issues around migration to the United States and exploitative labor
    practices with an activist orientation.”

    …………..

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  63. Art Deco says:

    That was my January 2003 article “Cousin Marriage Conundrum” that predicted the failure of Bush’s nation-building war in Iraq due to Iraq’s little known high rates of cousin marriage exacerbating its clannishness.

    Your complaint was cribbed from general-interest pieces by Stanley Kurtz.

    Iraq is not at war with any of its neighbors (it launched two wars during the period running from 1979 to 2003) and the number of civilian deaths from internal political violence is currently running at about 720 per year (or 1.8 per 100,000; for scale, the rate in Ulster during the period running from 1977 to 1999 was 2.3 per 100,000). What criteria are you using to define success or failure?

    • Troll: Bumpkin
  64. Bumpkin says:

    Heh, this Guardian twat is a Deep Springs alumni (pdf), looks like that rough education didn’t take as the founder hoped and he has returned to the life of Woke “privilege” he came from.

    Honestly, who cares about the latest round of the Woke circle jerks, er, I mean, firing squads? Nothing they’re fighting about matters, as the positions and institutions they’re all squabbling over are being destroyed as we speak, whether by substack or a host of new online ventures. If anyone thinks the Guardian or Harvard will be a going concern by 2050, I’ve got a bridge to sell you.

  65. @epebble

    MacArthur always manages to give at least one Genius Grant to a nonpolitical white guy who really is a genius:

    “J. Taylor Perron is Professor of Earth, Atmospheric and Planetary Sciences at MIT. He is best known for his work on how rivers shape landscapes on Earth and other planets. He holds an AB in Earth and Planetary Sciences and Archaeology from Harvard University and a PhD in Earth and Planetary Science from the University of California, Berkeley”

    https://taylorperron.org/about-taylor/

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  66. @John Johnson

    How did Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson work out?

  67. Well, at least you’re on a track to an ending happier than Epstein’s.

    BTW, has Gladwell ever opined on World War Hair?

  68. @dearieme

    I saw somewhere that Pinker cited Climate Science/Global Warming as a topic where The Science is settled and the sceptics are madmen. So on that topic, if no other, he’s completely deluded.

    Here the details count. – – – Quote would be nice.

  69. Newsflash: Jeffrey Epstein isn’t dead after all. He ran off to Israel and joined the army.

    • Replies: @2BR
  70. @Known Fact

    The Cuck is strong in this one.

    Glad you get so much enjoyment following college football, which is played by, run by and sponsored by people who hate you and want your people brought to their knees.

    No wonder the other side is winning so easily.

    • LOL: RichardTaylor
    • Replies: @Known Fact
  71. @Jack Armstrong

    So “non-traditional casting,” in which, for example, a black actor or actress is hired to play the part of a white person, is right out? Shouldn’t Miss Two Cents Plain take her own logic to its inexorable conclusion: that whites should play whites, blacks should play blacks, etc.? Or is this just another one of those “well, this is different” moments?

    What about casting Whoopi Goldberg as Joan Rivers? (And don’t say, “that’s ridiculous.” Are you some kind of racist, determined to keep a proud black woman from portraying a fellow comedienne? She may not be Jewish, but she took a good Jewish name — one that other blacks fall back on when they can’t make that month’s rent, and need someone to blame.)

    The first requirement in casting an actress to play Joan Rivers is that the thespienne in question should be funny. Everything else can be up for grabs, but the woman must be a skilled comic actress. Otherwise, she can come straight from the mikvah, and it will still be a giant waste of time unless she can make people laugh. All in all, Kathryn Hahn’s not a bad choice.

    One more thing: Sarah Silverman used to be cute when she got angry. Now — not so much. (I’m guessing she wasn’t even asked to audition for the role of Joan.)

  72. @ABCDE

    Yes. Journalists ask you to explain why you’ve been ‘associated with’ various people, out of the thousands you’ve interacted with over the decades, who’ve done something wrong.”

    Steven Pinker could have squeezed in a supposedly here before done something wrong.

    • Agree: 2BR
  73. Not buying it. Haven’t heard word one from Steve decrying the lack of golf on Little St. James.

  74. @Anonymous

    OK, here, but listen, I do have other shit to do today…

  75. @Bardon Kaldian

    His Better Angels of our Nature was pretty influential. (How correct is another matter.)

    His didactic book about English composition, The Sense of Style, is a gem (regardless of its influence).

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  76. eric says:

    It’s unfortunate that some races have lower mean IQs however measured, but why does everyone today the world is as we would like it to be? No one would quibble with the assertion that pygmies are athletically inferior to Bantus. Or, perhaps they would.

  77. Steve has definitely gotten under the skin of both Malcolm Gladwell and Angela Saini.

    People do not like their religious beliefs questioned. And nimrods who pose as intellectuals really do not like people who point out that they are in fact nimrods.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    , @BobX
  78. @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I pirate the broadcast, don’t patronize the sponsors and if it will make you feel better I’ll only root for my school’s white kids. After busily hanging our enemies from light poles all week maybe you should take a few hours off on Saturdays too.

  79. @anonymous

    How do you know that?
    Maybe Sailer and Epstein conspired to trade places.

  80. @John Johnson

    But there is no formula that can turn a quarterback into a Brady or Rodgers. That is why this is so difficult. There is no algorithm for finding a draft pick OR turning an average QB into a great one.

    There is no “formula,” but both Brady and Rodgers played behind multiple time Pro-Bowler Bledsoe and Hall of Famer Favre; Brady was drafted as what was presumed to be a scout team QB at best but filled in the role early and well.

    The best environment is one in which the young QB can learn because the offense around him is competent and consistent in its protections and route running and he’s not getting ground into the turf on every third play. That usually takes time, all else equal QB talent would be improved with such an understudy role.

    SF spent a ton of time with Kaepernick and he actually got worse with training. He actually played better as an instinctive scrambler.

    IIRC, his QBR declined in each year he was in the League. He got worse because his deficiencies as a passer were exposed with time and opposing defenses accumulated better game plans to counter him to the point that scrambling/running could no longer paper over those deficiencies. Eventually you get to the point where the San Francisco offense is playing more or less without the forward pass and they moved on.

    The way around this problem is to cap the salaries and contracts of first year players. There needs to be a trial system for the NFL. With the current system some team on the bottom like the Browns pins all their hopes and dreams on a top draft pick QB. Well we know what happened there.

    The salaries are already slotted and capped. The issue is the CBA and how it has reduced the timeframe of team control and early free agency. Quarterbacks would be better served with a CBA position exception increasing the time of team control on the first contract so that teams could take their times in preparing the players for the role while feeling that long-term investment in quarterbacks is worthwhile.

    In any event, it looks like quarterbacks are pioneering an NBA-style player dominance of their careers, and the future is one in which star quarterbacks will demand trades to a few acceptable teams with “turn key” offenses already in place. So, paradoxically, teams will have less incentive to develop quarterbacks over time because once they’re stars they can demand trades and have the leverage to make it so.

  81. @ABCDE

    “Contentious”. Conjugate:

    I am principled
    You are stubborn
    He is contentious

  82. @Flemur

    More specifically, it means “heretic.” If the word had been available then, the professors and theorists of demonology and witchcraft would have designated those who questioned their “settled science” or “scientific consensus” as “pseudoscientists.”

    Satan is the father of pseudoscience.

    To paraphrase a useful Polish proverd, the Wokester calls YOU a pseudoscientists when HE practices pseudoscience.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  83. anon[830] • Disclaimer says:

    Don’t lie, you Google News yourself daily to see if you’re mentioned anywhere at all.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • LOL: Bumpkin
  84. @Anonymous

    1967 not 1968, there’s a world of difference, just ask any boomer.

  85. @Ben tillman

    “How does he imagine people are able to determine what the scientific facts are?”

    Surprisingly easy, barely an inconvenience; just read The Guardian.

    • LOL: Ben tillman
  86. 2BR says:
    @International Jew

    Barely any medals. Milley has way more medals. No one beats our army in medals. My father fought in WW2 in combat in the Pacific and he only had a few medals – looked like that guy. But now? We dominate in medals.

    • Replies: @International Jew
  87. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Good comment. I was not aware of that phenomenon.

  88. @Jonathan Mason

    I borne it with a patient shrug,
    For sufferance is the badge of all our tribe

  89. @AnotherDad

    I, in turn, must protest the use of the word “nimrod” to mean an idiot.

    Back in the day, Elmer Fudd was out a-hunting rabbits, and Bugs, catching sight of him, observed “Ah, what a cute little Nimrod”. This was a reference to the Biblical Nimrod, a great hunter.

    Back then everyone, including Bugs Bunny, knew their Bible, and got the joke.

    Ever since, people more familiar with cartoons than the Bible have misunderstood “nimrod” to be a cool word for “idiot”.

    Today, Nimrod is a popular name in Israel, where apparently they still read the Bible. Since they also control the USA, there might be something to it.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  90. @Steve Sailer

    How did Patrick Mahomes and Russell Wilson work out?

    Worked out great.

    JaMarcus Russell and Tebow not so much.

    Then there was “mr. football” who became “mr. canada” within a few years. Manziel was actually a heisman winner.

    • Troll: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  91. Regarding NFL quarterbacks, I wonder if when picking from a pool of college draftees, the eye color plays any part. 27 HOF QBs, 22 (81%) with blue eyes. 16.7% of US population has blue eyes.

  92. Intellectual honesty is a crime in any totalitarian country. –G. Orwell

    J. Epstein is alive and well. And doing commercials for Nuplazid.

  93. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Pederson eventually made his way back to Green Bay, where he finished his playing career as a backup to Brett Favre. He and Favre had a great relationship.

    When Pederson retired he was replaced by Aaron somebody, who didn’t have as good a relationship with Favre. Pederson’s replacement isn’t a bad QB, at least for 37 seconds recently.

  94. Deckin says:
    @Jack Armstrong

    The obvious thing, then, is to have all female Jews in movies played by black or hispanic women. Win win!

    • Replies: @Etruscan Film Star
  95. BobX says:

    Well that explains your lavish lifestyle. Now we know Steve is run by the same folks. Suddenly the world makes more sense. :^)

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  96. Jeffrey Epstein and me are up there together as wrongdoers …

    You’re in good company.


    Same difference.

    Same difference ≠ no difference. I thought we left this one back in the ’70s, with “Yeah, huh!”

  97. Daniel H says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Not going into this controversy- why is Pinker considered an “influential thinker”?
    Celebrity- yes, but what’s new about him?

    Well, not necessarily new, but definitely awesome; Pinker’s got a head full of awesome hair.

  98. Why can’t HBD just be a series of unfortunate truths? What’s unfortunate can’t be true in this woke civic religion.

  99. @Triteleia Laxa

    The argument they are making is that Steve Sailer is a “bad person” because he believes that black people often have lower IQs than people in other racial groups.

    Having that opinion defines someone as “bad.” Not having that opinion is evidence that they are “good.”

    The irony is that the noted opinion is not an opinion at all. People who don’t hold it simply are denying reality. Of course, I am preaching to the choir here.

    • Agree: Nicholas Stix
  100. @Emil Nikola Richard

    It’s very early but a Chargers-Rams super bowl is quite possible.

    Chrysler will go nuts!

    Which Continental manufacturer owns Chrysler now? (Don’t dodge the question.) Fiat only bought them to get an instant dealer network, the hardest part of introducing a brand.

  101. Muggles says:
    @dearieme

    The Guardian Lumps Me and Jeffrey Epstein Together

    That’s an old and tired propaganda gimmick to subliminally link your target with someone else (totally unrelated to you or your beliefs) in order to tar them with the same brush.

    There is no way to avoid this Guilt by Association slander since no actual associations need to be present. Merely the assertion or invention of such.

    This can be used favorably, as in “many have associated Sailer blogger ‘Muggles’ with the heroic manliness demonstrated by the late film actor Charlton Heston.”

    I keep spray painting that on local wooden fences but so far, not much feedback. I think most have forgotten about Heston as Moses.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  102. @Jack Armstrong

    Y’all are so anthropocentric. In a truly Woke world, the part of Rivers would be played by a fungus.

    Until we reach that bright new tomorrow, the entire film could be done in CGI coded by an Afghan transexual.

    Why wasn’t the role of Rivers open to white atheist males? Seems kinda sexist.

  103. To take a single example: the journalist Malcolm Gladwell has called Pinker out for sourcing information from the blogger Steve Sailer

    Note the ghetto-ization of language and thought.

    “Leibniz recently dissed Newton…”

    He “called Pinker out”.

    He didn’t disprove anything anyone said, or even called it into question based on the scientific method. No, he dissed him (based on guilt by association).

    It’s like how noticing a 400 lb. fashion model is really, really fat and unattractive is no longer common sense observation. It’s “fat shaming” which is BAD because we say so.

  104. Muggles says:
    @Jack Armstrong

    As Sarah Silverman said in a vent session to Howard Stern last year discussing this phenomenon: “Is it the biggest injustice in the world? No, but I’m noticing it.”

    Does Ms. Silverman ever “notice” the phenomena of literally thousands of Jewish actors/actresses playing roles of characters who weren’t Jewish in reality or in the settings they are acting in?

    If you required a “religious” or ethnic test for casting in Hollywood you’d have, what, a couple of dozen Jewish performers? Instead of what we have, a large majority? If you excluded Canadian Jews you’d have about three. (Not that’s there’s anything wrong with being Jewish…)

    But now a yenta like Silverman ‘notices’ a strange shortage of actual Jews in roles featuring Jewish characters in fiction.

    Everyone is equal in Silverman World, but some are more equal than others. Try not to notice…

  105. @anonymous

    “Steve Sailer didn’t kill himself.”

    He also doesn’t own the Noah Cross ranch on Catalina. I also didn’t see him and Charles Murray playing badminton as I rode up with my basket of mayonnaise based salads. Unlike his perverted friend Jeffrey E., I really think Steve uses his private Shangri-La for badminton.

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  106. D. K. says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Great record, horrible music video!

    • Replies: @Abe
  107. Nachum says:

    For some reason I always confuse Pinker and Gladwell. I have no idea why. Canadians with curly hair?

  108. @Steve Sailer

    As Breeds is how they worked out. Wilson faced a revolt from his own blackity teammates for living white.

  109. @Luke Lea

    As Breeds is how they worked out. Wilson faced a revolt from his own blackity teammates for living white.

  110. @International Jew

    Could be. I haven’t read this book.

  111. @Luke Lea

    Brady is scraping the athletic bottom and it’s not even close. But as Billy Beane said, don’t look at the player, look at his numbers. Brady won everywhere. Bean was drafted in the first round ahead of Darryl Strawberry, and they appeared at the same showcase for scouts. They were dazzeled by the player’s talent.

    The numbers warned differently. When Bean became a GM he traded and drafted by the numbers.

    For a gifted black QB to be successful the offence has to be tailored to his gifts and his limitations. After a year or five the opposing defences permenantly destroy his gifts because he finds himself in the part of the field where rules to protect quarterbacks from annihilation do not apply.

  112. @Mike Tre

    Don’t draft the black QB, ever.

    Two words: Patrick Mahomes.

    Two more: Kyler Murray.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  113. lavoisier says: • Website

    The closer to a truth that challenges a sacred taboo, the more the great and the good hate your guts and will try to destroy you.

    The most dangerous truth out there today may be that there are significant differences in human behaviors, including intelligence, between the races.

    Congratulations Steve for having the courage to speak out about this dangerous truth.

  114. Abe says:
    @D. K.

    (my mistake- not responding directly to D.K.)

    Gosh darn it, Steve, why do you still give much attention to legacy dying corporate media? Yes, once upon a time TIME- whose MAN OF THE YEAR award was a semi-official pillar of our civic culture, probably close to the Pulitzer Prize in its prestige and guaranteed to spark Thanksgiving controversy all over these fruited plains of ours when your drunk uncle/my drunk uncle/everyone’s drunk uncle would get ornery over the fact that Stalin had received this award twice- probably had within its power to end the world- say, at the height of the Watergate crisis publishing some article which instigated a not-in-the-fittest-of-mental-health Nixon to lash out in some bit of ill-starred foreign adventurism, leading to a stiff Soviet response, leading to a… NEWSWEEK, TIME’s Pepsi Jr. counterpart, once had nearly similar heft.

    But now? Both are jokes, churning out online clickbait from someone’s garage. So why the continued deference to legacy, converged, media? Who cares what THE GRAUNIAD (sic), NEW YORK TIMES, BEZOS BLOG, say? Certainly not because they carry any institutional cachet of integrity and honest-dealing- that ship has long since sailed. The only question is how much money and eyeballs do they still command, and even if those numbers are still several orders of magnitude bigger than the biggest podcaster, the trends (or second derivative of trends) are definitely not in their favor. Anyone with a relatively small investment can put together a home studio and start putting out comedy sketches or long-form interviews or newsroom talking head hot-takes basically every bit as good as anything a major network can do in content form, and significantly (often wildly) better in terms of content quality.

    And the breadth and diversity of opinion allowed in non-corporate, DIY new media is outstanding. Or, to put it, vividly- Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet as I write this, is in DIY new media only 2 degrees of separation away from talking in a room with Moldbug**

    [MORE]

    ** BTW, congratulations on the new GF!!!

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
  115. @Jack Armstrong

    Jews really ought to be steamed about the way the goyim in Hollyweird dismiss and ignore Jews and Jewish interests.

    I wasn’t even aware there had been a Notorious RBG biopic. But i assume she was played by a black woman–following Hollyweird’s current casting diktat?

    ~~

    Personally, i’m just fine with Jews taking all the Jewish roles … and staying out of white gentile roles; blacks taking all the black roles … and staying out of white roles; white gentiles taking all the white gentile roles … and staying out of Jewish, Asian, black roles. And i’m just fine with men taking all the male roles … and staying out of the female ones, and vice versa.

    Just like i’m on board with people managing their own affairs in their own nations.

    Sticking to your own knitting and leaving other people to manage their own. (Not a trait, I notably associate with Jews.)

    • Replies: @Jack Armstrong
  116. iffen says:

    It’s disheartening that Pinker in a recent interview said that he was okay with feeding the rubes bad science if it was for a good cause. Also, in the interview he lamented the fact that the rubes “don’t trust the science” like they are supposed to do.

    • Replies: @iffen
  117. Anonymous[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    9 out of 15 awarded “geniuses” are black. 3 out of 15 are white. 1 out of 15 is white male (and even that choice is laughable because the guy has made a lot of comical mistakes about Covid-19 early on in what is supposed to be his area of expertise).

    I am sure 60% of all geniuses being black is totally random co-incidence.

  118. Maybe Steve flew on the Lolita Express.


    How would we know? He’s rubbed elbows (anything else?) with some very high-ranking humans, and he drops the names to prove it. E.g., “Margaret Thatcher told my wife…,” etc.

    Look at it this way: This puts Steve inside the same Venn diagram circle as men like Bill Gates (Steve’s SARS-CoV-2 hero) Stephen Hawking, and His Royal Highness Prince Andrew.

    When it comes to Prince Andrew, wasn’t his Epstein/Maxwell girl seventeen? That’s old enough for her to know why she was schtupping with him. Epstein, however, apparently crossed the line with fourteen-year-olds. That’s too young to be with anyone who isn’t a teenager himself.

    • Replies: @NOTA
    , @MEH 0910
  119. NOTA says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I think Epstein’s business model was pimping the underaged girls to rich and powerful people, and then extracting cash and favors in exchange for not letting the videos or other evidence come out. Unless Steve’s doing a lot better than I think on donations, I don’t think Epstein would have been too interested. (Besides, Steve would probably bore the underaged prostitute to tears by trying to talk to her about golf course architecture or something.)

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  120. LOL. Don’t be fooled. Mr. Sailer obviously is an alpha male. Women of all ages instinctively can identify alphas and don’t care if they are boring.

  121. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    In a similar vein, when the Giants acquired Eli Manning, they jettisoned the erratic Kerry Collins in favor of the veteran Kurt Warner. Warner started the season with the understanding that he would be the starting quarterback at first, but Eli would eventually take over before the season ended.

    Not only did this work out well for Eli and the Giants, but this revitalized Warner’s career as well, as he was able to parlay his season with the Giants into five seasons with the Cardinals that included an NFC championship.

  122. @NOTA

    (Besides, Steve would probably bore the underaged prostitute to tears by trying to talk to her about golf course architecture or something.)

    LOL. Don’t be fooled. Mr. Sailer obviously is an alpha male. Women of all ages instinctively can identify alphas and don’t care if they are boring.

    • LOL: Inquiring Mind
    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  123. Anon[332] • Disclaimer says:

    Is the above cartoon by of the toadstool acceptable on this site?
    It is a drawing from a book, Der Giftpilz, published by Julius Streicher in Nazi Germany in 1938.

  124. I myself have communicated with Colin McGinn (a truly brilliant fellow) online, as well as with Sailer of course.

    Boy, am I in trouble!

    But at least I have never exchanged pleasantries with the evil Steve Pinker! I mean, have you seen the dude’s hair? Clearly, not human.

  125. nebulafox says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Chad Sailer vs. Virgin Dreher.

  126. @AnotherDad

    If Hollywood won’t have them, there’s always Iceland.

    Iceland’s Jews Beat Church Taxes and a Circumcision Ban. Now They Even Have a Rabbi

    by Julia Duin|Newsweek

    One difference their presence has made, he said, was the establishment of an annual Holocaust memorial ceremony that was held in 2020 at the Polish Embassy and via Zoom last year. “Actually, other institutions reach out to us and asked us to be a part of it,” the rabbi said. “I feel a memorial to the Holocaust deserves strong attention.”

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/icelands-jews-beat-church-taxes-and-a-circumcision-ban-now-they-even-have-a-rabbi/ar-AAOK7Hu

  127. @Abe

    Abe wrote:

    in DIY new media only 2 degrees of separation away from talking in a room with Moldbug**

    Dud you see that Tucker had Yarvin (AKA Mencius Moldbug) on his premium videocast recently?

    Personally, I could never make it through Yarvin’s long-winded essays.

    He needed an editor.

    • Replies: @Abe
  128. @Peter D. Bredon

    This was a reference to the Biblical Nimrod, a great hunter.

    Today, Nimrod is a popular name in Israel, where apparently they still read the Bible.

    Early Japanese-made IDF Nimrod 6X scope with IDF M14 mount (source: eBay):

    Although not a US military optic, but definitely a distinct variant of an official military M14 sniper rifle optic is the Israeli Defense Force-issued ‘Nimrod’ (6x) scopes, and its matching Israeli M14 scope mount. I don’t know a lot about the Israeli/IDF Nimrod scopes, other than two versions were manufactured; originally the scopes were made in Japan, and reportedly the later ones with slightly larger objective bells were made by Kahles of Germany. I do know that they had an interesting reticle with range estimations stadia similar to the Russian Draganov’s reticle, and apparently some of the scopes made by Kahles for the IDF had a BDC elevation turret marked; ‘M118’ or ‘M852’ with range markings from 100 to 800 meters (I think). That said, several Nimrod scopes I have seen for sale do not have any BDC markings on their turrets.

    https://www.m14forum.com/threads/chronological-history-of-military-m14-daytime-sniper-rifle-scopes.474454/

  129. @Deckin

    The obvious thing, then, is to have all female Jews in movies played by black or hispanic women. Win win!

    No, that’s insulting to females, Jews, blacks, and hispanics. Lose, lose, lose, lose! Get with it.

    Female Jews should be played by black or hispanic men.

  130. Anonymous[154] • Disclaimer says:

    We did hear rumors about the HBD-Chick Express.

    And Steve Sailer did not red-pill himself.

    There is a secret pimp side to Sailer.

  131. @Herzog

    Speaking of which, what do people make of Don Lemon’s “smell this!” incident that is going to trial?

    https://hotair.com/john-s-2/2021/09/28/assault-case-against-don-lemon-expected-to-go-forward-in-a-few-months-n419022

  132. @Buzz Mohawk

    I certainly agree that women are OK with boring men, but the key measure of an alpha is not IQ or any other dimension other than net assets.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  133. @2BR

    That one’s for good behavior at Riker’s Island.

  134. Mike Tre says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Both are significantly white. Don’t be disingenuous.

    And for every Wilson, there are 25 Jmarcus Russels.

  135. Mike Tre says:
    @John Johnson

    “ No it is actually really hard and has little to do with race”

    Show me that huge list of all black super bowl winning QB’s again.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    , @John Johnson
  136. Mike Tre says:
    @Rex Little

    He’s half white. Try again.

    • Replies: @Rex Little
  137. @anonymous

    Steve Sailer didn’t kill himself.

    Neither did Epstein.

    • LOL: Unladen Swallow
  138. @BobX

    Well that explains your lavish lifestyle. Now we know Steve is run by the same folks. Suddenly the world makes more sense. :^)

    The only other man I can think of who lived and worked the way Steve does was Hugh Hefner, but Hugh had some interesting helpers in his house…

  139. Cortes says:
    @BB753

    Ah!

    Enlighten us with details of Hawking’s nefarious activities during the orgies, please.

    • Replies: @BB753
    , @petit bourgeois
  140. @Triteleia Laxa

    “Breaking it down” is analysis and logic. Which are no longer taught in primary schools and hardly taught in the public secondary, math and science partially excepted.

  141. MEH 0910 says:


    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/07/jeffrey-epstein-high-society-contacts.html

    This project is meant to catalogue how Epstein’s secure footing in elite spheres helped hide his crimes. It includes influential names listed in his black book, people he flew, funded, and schmoozed, along with others whose connections to him have drawn renewed attention. Certainly, not everyone cited here knew of everything he was up to; Malcolm Gladwell told New York, “I don’t remember much except being baffled as to who this Epstein guy was and why we were all on his plane.”

    [MORE]

    Gladwell, Malcolm: Writer.

    “I was invited to the TED conference in maybe 2000 (I can’t remember), and they promised to buy me a plane ticket to California,” Gladwell says now. “Then at the last minute they said, ‘We found you a ride on a private plane instead.’ As I recall, there were maybe two dozen TED conferencegoers onboard. I don’t remember much else, except being slightly baffled as to who this Epstein guy was and why we were all on his plane.”

  142. Abe says:
    @PhysicistDave

    Did you see that Tucker had Yarvin (AKA Mencius Moldbug) on his premium videocast recently?

    No, I did not know that- that’s cool! To explain my somewhat cryptic reference- Lex Fridman has had Elon Musk on (at least twice). Another of Lex’s regular guests (this is all public and on UTube, I know, but I’m irrationally scared of somehow getting them in trouble with the Cancel Police by explicitly writing it all down) regularly has Moldbug/Yarvin on his show. So 2 degrees of Mencius Moldbug to the richest man on Earth.

    Yarvin recently and tragically lost his wife to a health issue, leaving him a widower with 2 young kids. I was thus very happy when someone reposted a tweet showing him back in the swing of things, having supposedly found a new romantic interest in his life. I too was not a big fan of his logorrheic essays, but he is an entirely charming, smart, and very congenial in-person talk guest (with great hair!). I would also be shocked if he did not turn out to be a regular reader of UNZ and Steve in particular.

    • Replies: @New Dealer
    , @ATBOTL
  143. MEH 0910 says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    and he drops the names to prove it. E.g., “Margaret Thatcher told my wife…,” etc.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
  144. “Unsurprisingly, I found that while drafting quarterbacks is hard, NFL teams do much better than random.”

    Except for a most prominent example, when NE drafted a little known QB in the sixth round, and 199th overall.

    The player’s name? Tom Brady.

    So Gladwell is back at it again. Still carrying a grudge. In this instance, which one would be considered to be the nemesis of the other, Steve or Gladwell?

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  145. @anonymous

    Steve is desperately trying to tell the intelligentsia that he isn’t pro-White. He is sincere in that. He just wants to be known for pointing out things about race and ethnicity.

    But in no way is he is “on the side of White people”.

  146. @Abe

    Yarvin on Tucker: Sort of…and…you know…kind of…you know…sort of…and…you know…sort of…kind of…and…sort of…you know…and…sort of…sort of…kind of…you know

    Watery logorrhea.

    • Troll: Inquiring Mind
  147. @MEH 0910

    That picture reminds me of Camera Day at the Angels stadium when my father took me.

    I still have Dad’s photos of my six-year-old self standing next to my baseball heroes before the game, but they are much taller than I.

    Really, though, that is a great photograph. Thanks!

  148. @MEH 0910

    BTW, both of their expressions are perfect in that photograph. Steve looks appropriately youthful and enthusiastic, and Mrs. Thatcher in particular has the perfect look of determination and confidence.

    Both people are captured perfectly in that moment, especially Margaret Thatcher.

    That is unusual for a simple photo op shot. If I were Steve, I would cherish this picture greatly.

  149. @Wade Hampton

    You are half right.

    Net assets are not the only thing that will tell a woman that you are an alpha male. Especially when you are a young man (and isn’t this the time when most of us are in the mating market?) women will sense what your strengths and potentials are, even if you are a college student or a young graduate living in a downtown apartment.

    Let’s just compromise and say they are interested, instinctively (subconsciously in many cases) in what your potential net assets are.

  150. @Mike Tre

    Mahomes is half white, yes. Is Murray? Doesn’t look it to me.

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
  151. Worrying about these people is something like taking the opinion of the neighbor’s barking dog to heart.

  152. @SunBakedSuburb

    “[T]he Noah Cross ranch”

    Nice touch.

    • Replies: @D. K.
  153. So the same mook who calls Steve a “blogger,” calls Angela Saini a “science journalist.”

    By the way, I attended conferences in consecutive years (2008-2009), in which one of the world’s leading psychometricians, J.P. Rushton, showed a graph re I.Q. (I can’t recall the specifics) which he credited to Steve.

    Somehow, I don’t see a world-class psychometrician giving credit to Angela Saini for important insights re I.Q.

  154. @Buzz Mohawk

    Women of all ages instinctively can identify alphas and don’t care if they are boring.

    Elon Musk is the most boring man on the planet. Or in the planet:

    And soon off the planet.

  155. Anonymous[313] • Disclaimer says:
    @Muggles

    Coincidentally, the Afghan withdrawal recently inspired me to rewatch Khartoum.

  156. Anonymous[125] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Thank you.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  157. Mike Tre says:
    @Rex Little

    Superbowl wins: Zero

    • Replies: @FPD72
  158. D. K. says:
    @Nicholas Stix

    ***

    [Lunch is served; it’s fish]
    Noah Cross: I hope you don’t mind. I believe they should be served with the head.
    Jake Gittes: Fine… long as you don’t serve the chicken that way.

    ***

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071315/quotes/?ref_=tt_trv_qu

  159. Mike Tre says:
    @duncsbaby

    Yes! Doug Willians! In the strike shortened year of 1987!

    Just like how Obama proves “black” men make just as good Presidents as whites.

  160. Well Steve doesn’t live to far from a bunch of porn studios, so he’s guilty as charged.

  161. @Buzz Mohawk

    As a registered alpha male I can relate that the problem is not that the young floozies get bored with the alpha males, but the reverse.

    • LOL: Abe
  162. Ragno says:

    Interesting how a paraphrased-cum-Rashomon’d conclusion from an old Sailer column (can’t help but notice how there’s nothing like a direct Sailer quote anywhere throughout this Pinker/Gladwell contretemps) is being used to slime two writers for the price of one. And maybe it’s me, but

    Sailer, for the uninitiated, is a California blogger with a marketing background who is best known for his belief that black people are intellectually inferior to white people.

    it almost seems that Gladwell is touching his nose to signal to the cognoscenti that the truly objectionable bits here are “California blogger” and the “marketing background”.

    And why am I not surprised that Gladwell has gotten zero pushback for his attention-whorish feature

    Why blacks are like boys and whites are like girls

    What wouldn’t I give for the printers to have fuxtaposed that title, eh? “Blacks like girls, whites like boys?” We’d have gotten to see all the PhDs in North America performing The Wave, each more eager than the next for their ‘principled objection’ to be seen and noted by whoever it is in Corporate America who books these frauds to deliver their \$20,000-an-hour exercises in Popular Sophistry.

  163. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Bill Simmons has the greatest take on the NFL rating Brady on draft day. Obviously this is a perfect storm freak occurrence and nobody is going to have any definite explanation. Simmons worked the Patriots beat when Brady was drafted and years after and knows the inside dope better than anybody. It’s kind of complicated, but

    1. nobody in the NFL likes Brady’s personality at all
    2. the man was raised in a house where dad was workaholic and never home and his personality was constrained by mom and three sisters

    Brady lasted to round 6 because he was considered kind of gay.

    3. there is a corollary that Brady’s coolness under pressure derives from he doesn’t even like football all that much. The reason he did it to begin with was it was one place he could escape from his mom and his sisters. He looks at it like it is a job.

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
  164. Colin McGinn’s review was on the cover of The Blank Slate. Interesting guy, from a mining family, failed his 11-plus in grammar school days but obviously a late developer.

    “Steven Pinker has written an extremely good book — clear, well argued, fair, learned, tough, witty, humane, stimulating. I only hope that people study it carefully before rising up ideologically against him. If they do, they will see that the idea of an innately flawed but wonderfully rich human nature is a force for good, not evil.
    — Colin McGinn, The Washington Post

    His emails and relationship with the student, for which he was canned, are highly inappropriate (“How I miss you already! I can still feel your soft yet firm contours in my sensitive hand. You are my Cleopatra and my Juliet! You are my rising sun astride the great lip of the earth. Do not be so coy with me! I adore your every aspect and crevice!” – this after he asked to hold her foot and she complied) even to me. The guy, at 63, was obsessed by her, classic case of late flowering lust, and she didn’t want to tell him to go boil his head because she was his graduate student.

    As for “his belief that black people are intellectually inferior to white people“, Pinker has riffed fairly often on the belief that white gentiles as a group are intellectually inferior to Jewish people as a group. I’m pretty sure this anecdote used to be on Pinker’s website, a quick search now doesn’t find it.

    https://lyingeyes.blogspot.com/2005/12/more-on-pinker-goyishe-kopf.html

    I somehow forgot this little anecdote that kicked off Steven Pinker’s lecture the other night. I don’t have the details down exactly, but basically Pinker was talking about his grandfather who owned a garment factory where they made neckties. One day Pinker’s father went to visit him and was told he was in a backroom. There Pinker’s father saw the grandfather working on fabric with a sewing machine. He asked him what he was doing. He was working on the cut-out remnants of fabric and “if I sew them a certain way I can get a few exta ties out of the lot.” Ok, said his father, but why are you doing this rather than one of your workers. The grandfather looked at him, poked a finger to his head, and said “Goyishe Kopf” – Gentile brains!

    The story gives a flavor of the kind of audience Pinker was addressing – it’s telling that several of the older audience members around me laughed at the “Goyishe Kopf” – they didn’t need to wait for the translation. I think part of Pinker’s message with the story was to set the table for the audience that the idea of superior Ashkenazi intelligence should be nothing shocking – they all know it already even if they don’t admit it.

    The 2005 lecture was on “Jews, Genes, and Intelligence”, and was an exposition (Pinker broadly supportive) at the Institute for Jewish Research in Manhattan of Cochran/Hardy/Harpending’s paper The Natural History of Ashkenazi Intelligence.

    https://lyingeyes.blogspot.com/2005/12/pinker-on-jews-genes-and-intelligence_02.html

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  165. BB753 says:
    @Cortes

    I couldn’t get a copy of the wild tapes but there’s an actual picture of Hawking having dinner there with Epstein.

  166. @Triteleia Laxa

    Yep. See Alex Tabarrok’s “Revisionism on Deborah Birx” at Marginal Revolution. It’s all in the language.

  167. @Emil Nikola Richard

    “Brady lasted to round 6 because he was considered kind of gay.”
    How did Joey Harrington go #2 overall the next season? A cousin of mine who was OL for the Lions told me that the perception of Harrington in the Lions locker room was that he was “kind of gay.”
    I think Brady’s draft position was more his unremarkable numbers at the Combine and the way Lloyd Carr jerked around Brady and Drew Henson at Michigan didn’t help either qb.

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  168. @Cortes

    Stephen Hawking was a big-time swinger and a member of a swingers’ club in San Bernardino County, so hanging around Epstein probably involved something perverted:

    “I have seen Stephen Hawking at the club more than a handful of times,” the source told the online celebrity gossip site. “Last time I saw him he was in the back ‘play area’ laying on a bed fully clothed with two naked women gyrating all over him.”

    https://nypost.com/2012/02/24/acclaimed-physicist-hawking-a-regular-at-calif-strip-joint/

    • Replies: @Emil Nikola Richard
  169. @Ron Mexico

    Harrington went number two the exact same way Clowney went number one–drafting executive cowed by physical specimen. The day Clowney was drafted the Texans were trying to trade away the pick and they had weasels on the team telling the media (according to more wreckless media members) they didn’t think Clowney actually was that much of a football player.

  170. @petit bourgeois

    Your only job in life is to keep her off the pole.

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois
  171. @YetAnotherAnon

    “after he asked to hold her foot and she complied…”

    B—h set him up. Female grad students do that to normal, White men profs all the time. Feminist profs have for many years conspired to violate the White men’s rights by trolling coeds to do it.

    https://vdare.com/articles/kavanaugh-lynching-campus-rape-culture-hysteria-invades-america

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  172. @Emil Nikola Richard

    I understand your and Chris Rock’s point, but the NY Post article I cited is not 100% accurate and is tabloid sensationalism.

    Stephen Haawkin was a member of a swingers’ club, not a strip club. People who go to swingers’ clubs and participate are not very attractive and you won’t find any dancing poles; whereas strip clubs hire the most beautiful women they can find to pole dance. Big difference.

    It’s kind of like the difference bewtween The Library (strip club) and the Red Rooster (swingers’ club) in Las Vegas.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
  173. anon[190] • Disclaimer says:
    @MEH 0910

    Why is Jeffrey Dahmer standing next to Thatcher?

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    , @kaganovitch
  174. iffen says:
    @iffen

    OTOH, maybe Pinker is telling us that it’s okay for us to push global warming denial, anti-vax, and other assorted Trumpology type premises. Maybe he is telling us that acceleration of institutional decay is the only way forward and this is the only way he can communicate that information while still maintaining his status.

  175. @Nicholas Stix

    “B—h set him up. Female grad students do that to normal, White men profs all the time.”

    Well, read the deposition.

    https://www.themiamihurricane.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Morrison-Complaint-2.pdf

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  176. FPD72 says:
    @Mike Tre

    Murray was drafted by the worst-in-the-NFL Cardinals. Their record improved in each of his two seasons and this year they have started 3-0. In 2018 Kingsbury, then the coach at Texas Tech, on the eve of playing Murray’s Oklahoma, when asked about Murray, said that if he were in the NFL with the first pick in the draft he would pick Murray. A few months later he was in just that position and picked him.

    Kingsbury was the only Power Five coach to offer Mahomes coming out of high school. He recruited and coached Baker Mayfield at Tech. Just maybe he knows something about evaluating quarterbacks.

  177. MEH 0910 says:
    @anon

  178. Pinker broke the unwritten rule: polite society is required to pretend that Steve, Ron Unz, and certain others do not exist. That Charles Murray has not published a book since The Bell Curve.

    When somehow the rule is broken, the fallback position is to condemn everything the unperson has ever done, written, or spoken, but without going into too much explanatory detail. After all, when an unperson is literally Hitler, explanation should not be necessary. Why should anyone even ask for an explanation, unless they are racist too?

  179. ATBOTL says:
    @Abe

    He was a regular commenter here many years ago.

  180. @anon

    Why is Jeffrey Dahmer standing next to Thatcher?

    Thinking about a snack.

  181. @Mike Tre

    Show me that huge list of all black super bowl winning QB’s again.

    That will still make a poor justification of ignoring Black QBs.

    The problem is that there just isn’t a reliable way of picking a Brady or Rodgers even if you exclude Black players.

    Black QBs aren’t as common but there have been some good ones.

    RGB III would have been a superbowl QB if he didn’t suffer so many injuries. I watched him blow his ACL on that garbage field.

    Not sure if I would call Mahomes Black. More like mixed race. But I guess the one drop rule applies to politicians, writers and quarterbacks.

  182. @petit bourgeois

    Stephen Haawkin was a member of a swingers’ club, not a strip club. People who go to swingers’ clubs and participate are not very attractive and you won’t find any dancing poles; whereas strip clubs hire the most beautiful women they can find to pole dance. Big difference.

    Some of them do have poles and he wasn’t going there for sex.

    Naked women would basically dance for him.

    Women that go to swingers clubs don’t want a downgrade from what they already have.

  183. @YetAnotherAnon

    You act as if this were a legitimate suit.

    Plaintiff Monica Ainhorn Morrison alleges that defendant Colin McGinn “sexually assaulted” her, by kissing and touching her left foot.

    So, will the movie version be titled, My Left Foot?!

    Back in 2015, Morrison’s female civil attorney, Ann Olivarius, said she’s used to getting \$2M a pop in such cases. Nice work, if you can get it.

    Morrison’s male civil attorney, David H. Pollack, maintained, “Defendant McGINN defamed Plaintiff in the national and international media”

    McGinn’s “defamation” consisted of identifying the student by name, and defending himself against her charges. Feminists have been able to get away with defaming their White man boyfriend-professors for over 30 years, through their faculty and administrative allies labeling and forbidding any White, heterosexual man defending himself against scurrilous charges as “retaliation.” The John Doe calling himself “Barack Obama” aggravated the situation in 2011 by having his secretary of education, Arne Duncan, send all colleges an illegal, “Dear Colleague” letter, in which he ordered them, on the one hand, to turn themselves into criminal justice agencies, while on the other hand, turning the presumption of innocence and the standards for conviction upside down. Instead of guilt requiring proof “beyond a reasonable doubt,” now it would only require the civil law standard of “a preponderance of evidence”—50.1%.

    The whole point was to destroy the lives of many more innocent, White, heterosexual professors and students. “Obama” was openly frustrated that too few such men were being harmed.

    Ann Olivarius claimed, “the case highlighted a sexist culture in British universities where it became acceptable for older male professors to sleep with younger graduate students.”

    And Monica Ainhorn Morrison was expecting, like Lauren Leydon-Hardy, to be able to publicly, frivolously, sue men like crazy, while hiding behind “Jane Doe.”

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