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A routine occurrence of the 1970s-1990s was getting your car window smashed by a burglar. There was nothing more fun about living in Chicago than coming back to your car and finding its interior full of broken glass and rain.

Happy days are here again in California … From the Los Angeles Times:

Car burglaries in some California cities are at crisis levels. Prosecutors say their hands are tied

By PATRICK MCGREEVY STAFF WRITER
DEC. 2, 2019 5 AM

SACRAMENTO — An epidemic of car burglaries in San Francisco over the last few years has led one Democratic lawmaker to propose plugging a loophole in state law that allows some break-ins to go unpunished, but the Legislature has balked at prosecutors’ requests to make obtaining convictions easier.

The proposal, which would eliminate a requirement that prosecutors prove a car’s doors were locked at the time of a break-in, has been shelved two years in a row in legislative committees.

Shouldn’t the burglar smashing the car window to gain entrance be seen as prima facie proof that the car was locked? Help me out here …

Lawmakers struggling with prison crowding and public pressure to enact criminal justice reform have been reluctant to do anything to put more people behind bars. …

“It’s ridiculous that under current law you can have a video of someone bashing out a car window, but if you can’t prove that the door is locked you may not be able to get an auto burglary conviction,” said state Sen. Scott Wiener (D-San Francisco), who introduced the legislation at the request of the San Francisco district attorney’s office.

Wiener said the loophole in state law that his bill targets has hindered prosecutions in San Francisco, where many car burglary victims are tourists who cannot easily return to testify that they left their car doors locked.

Allow me to state for the record that I always lock my car doors, as does my entire family.

Wiener said he was never given an explanation by colleagues who decided to hold the bills in committee, but he said lawmakers have generally been reluctant to approve any measure that has the potential to put more people behind bars. The solidly liberal California Legislature has tried to address prison overcrowding in the last decade by reducing the penalties for many crimes and blocking bills that might increase the number of people going to jail or prison.

“Bills that are perceived to expand criminal liability tend not to do well in the Legislature, although this bill closes a loophole — it’s not creating something new,” Wiener said.

The legislation was opposed by the California Public Defenders Assn., which tied the issue to the rise of homelessness in major California cities.

“In an era where our streets are filled with homeless people looking for shelter from the elements

The brutal California elements, which is why so many of them are out here in the first place: to enjoy the weather.

this expansion of the prosecution and incarceration time for individuals who have not damaged a locking mechanism of the vehicle to gain entry could negatively impact those with the least of means,” the public defenders said in a letter to lawmakers.

They smashed a car window.

… “We’ve got one more piece of evidence that for Democrats, victims come last,” Waldron said. “There’s no reason for someone to enter a vehicle that doesn’t belong to them, whether the door is locked or not. This was a common-sense bill to close a major loophole in our car burglary law, but Democrats have proved yet again that in Sacramento, common sense isn’t common.”

… Assemblywoman Lorena Gonzalez (D-San Diego), the chairwoman of the Assembly Appropriations Committee, declined to discuss Wiener’s bill when asked why her committee shelved it, saying in a statement that costs are always a concern with proposed new laws.

“With billions of dollars of new taxpayer costs being proposed through new legislation every year, the Appropriations Committee considers the merits of hundreds of bills before making very hard decisions about the fiscal priorities of our state,” Gonzalez said.

Number-crunchers for Gonzalez’s committee estimated the bill would have cost courts “hundreds of thousands” of dollars for more prosecutions, while counties might face up to the “low millions” of dollars in expenses to handle increased jail populations.

In contrast, you having to pay to fix your car window is your problem, you loser.

In another high-profile case this year, authorities broke up a car burglary ring comprising dozens of Chilean nationals who entered the country on tourist visas and ransacked scores of cars, homes and businesses in Southern California.

What’s a good security video system to get?

 
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  1. newrouter says:

    Your colleague at Taki writes about this today:

    Settle for Less, You White Bastards!

    https://www.takimag.com/article/settle-for-less-you-white-bastards/

    • Replies: @Marty
  2. Lycurgus says:

    Then again, it’s kind of ridiculous you can intentionally give someone the HIV in CA and get a ticket, eh Scott?

    • Replies: @Leo D
  3. Thank God Tucker Carlson isn’t bitching about this too. A broken window is trivial in the grand scheme of things.

    • Troll: petit bourgeois
    • Replies: @Clyde
  4. Lot says:

    “What’s a good security video system to get?”

    I have a friend who’s happy with his web system. He showed me real time video of his front porch on his phone. The same app lets him watch and talk to his dog remotely.

    When I started doing the research I got the sense that there’s a lot of companies spending a lot on R&D and making incompatible systems, and it is best to wait another year. Same for all the other “smart home” tech that seems to me to be very cool in theory but still just a little too buggy and cumbersome to invest in yet.

    I’m in a very low crime suburb however, we don’t even have porch pirates.

    For some of these systems, your homeowner’s insurance discount for getting them makes them free or even profitable.

  5. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    We need an inclusive open windows policy. Shut windows are exclusive.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  6. San Francisco DA-elect Chesa Boudin, son of Brinks Robbery/Ambush getaway driver Kathy Boudin, has the answer: A public/private partnership to fix the windows cheap! Because punishing perps is pointless…

    https://www.chesaboudin.com/car_break_ins

    31,000 car burglaries in San Francisco in 2017? Holy smokes.

  7. Not to worry. As soon as demographics reveal the inequality inherent in prosecuting these kinds of crime the ruling class will determine there’s no problem.

  8. If that’s their position, I think every public defender in California should have their car window smashed and their cars’ contents stolen immediately.

    But I never met a public defender that came across a criminal law that they did not like. Gideon v. Wainwright was never intended to create a pro-criminal class of bottom feeders.

    As the old saying goes (c. 1970s New York), all it takes is a good mugging to turn a liberal into a conservative.

    • Replies: @Lot
  9. They smashed a car window.

    Sorted

  10. Dems may have demographics on their side, but their slide to the left on crime opens them up to a flurry of Willy Horton ads. In addition to this car break-in business in California, you have New York abandoning the policies that might have prevented Tessa Majors’ murder, you have anti-incarceration lunacy.

  11. P.S.: Scott Weiner isn’t as bad as Anthony Weiner, but he’s definitely in the “progressive” commie faction from SF in the Senate. He must be getting shit for the property crimes from his constituency because I’ve never seen him as anything other than to the left of Stalin in passing horrible destructive laws.

    But then I came across this from his wiki:

    In 2015, Wiener was robbed of his cell phone on the corner of 16th and Valencia in San Francisco. He negotiated with the would-be thieves and got them to agree to accept $200 for the return of his phone. The foursome walked to a nearby ATM, where the transaction was caught on tape by the cameras at the ATM. A Wells Fargo security guard also observed the robbery in progress, and called the police.[95] A woman and a man were later arrested and charged with second-degree robbery.[96]

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Wiener

    He looks like a dweeb. How does a 6′-7″ Jew get mugged in San Francisco? Definitely a beta SJW, but I think his mugging changed his mind, hence the legislation re smashed car windows.

  12. I was youngish then, but were the seventies really so great that we want to relive them?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  13. ‘Shouldn’t the burglar smashing the car window to gain entrance be seen as prima facie proof that the car was locked?’

    Car doesn’t have to be locked. I’ve seen black kids smash car windows just because.

    Hey, it’ll ruin some random stranger’s day. That’s very important to some people.

    • Agree: brandybranch
  14. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    31,000 car burglaries in San Francisco in 2017? Holy smokes.

    Back in the day in NYC, you learned quickly to stop reporting crimes. This is why experts consider the murder rate the most reliable measure of rampant criminality–because murders tend to get reported no matter what. Though even that can be arguable, because it’s not exactly impossible to hide a body. And there’s lots of people who won’t be missed.

  15. Ano says:

    Does that mean hubcap stealing is also going to come back into fashion?

    I was going to call for the Ed Sullivan Show to book The Beatles as a car theft crime reduction measure, but…

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/grand-theft-beatles/

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @MC
  16. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    When I was a teenager it was well-known that you never ever take your car to Mexico. Progress! Now everybody knows that you never ever take your car to San Francisco either.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  17. Lot says:
    @petit bourgeois

    Yes!

    All the dark red states are passing abortion bans to try to overturn Roe. But free criminal defense lawyers as a “constitutional right” would be my top target.

  18. Dumbo says:

    In another high-profile case this year, authorities broke up a car burglary ring comprising dozens of Chilean nationals who entered the country on tourist visas and ransacked scores of cars, homes and businesses in Southern California.

    There have been some protests in Chile this year with people vandalizing cars, stores, etc, so maybe they got confused and thought they were still in Santiago?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  19. SafeNow says:

    Years ago in N.Y., car burglars were smashing windows to steal high-end radios. Car owners were forced to remove their radios. And, to avoid a window smash, they placed a sign on the dash shelf saying “No Radio.” Some burglars responded by smashing the window and writing on the sign “Get One.”

    In Philadelphia, they would steal your battery. They were not interested in THAT battery….they would return to steal the brand new replacement battery.

    • Replies: @unit472
    , @Joe Stalin
  20. @petit bourgeois

    A future mayor of San Francisco, Art Agnos?, was shot by the Zebra Killers, but survived.

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois
    , @Marty
  21. Mr. Anon says:

    Wait till the homeless start breaking into cars just to s**t in them. Go ahead and fix the window – will you still want to drive it?

  22. @Steve Sailer

    Thanks Steve for the Art Agnos reference.

    The closest thing to greek around here is Tommy’s. The greek bolongnese sauce around here survived Art Agnos.

    You seem to be almost always right, like Scalia.

    My mom was born in the City of San Francisco in Haight-Ashbury but never had any connection to the wretched place. I worked there for 2 years, commuting on the alameda transit across the bay bridge with a compulsory student bus card. The financial district is one of the most rundown places….

  23. So what this implies is the California Legislature has heard the old saw about turning the country into Brazil, and thought it would be a great idea?
    Nah, in Brazil the cops routinely kill bad guys, and it’s considered a good thing by the Brazilian establishment.

  24. Johnny789 says:

    I live in a shady inner ring suburb of LA and I voted for Prop 47 in an attempt to push petty crime into more affluent areas. I got stuff too, you know.

  25. Anon[710] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ano

    Does that mean hubcap stealing is also going to come back into fashion?

    No.

    Catalytic converters. Three have been stolen in my neighborhood in the last 2 weeks. They use some kind of super-hot arc welder. Gets it off really quick.

  26. @petit bourgeois

    P.S.: Scott Weiner isn’t as bad as Anthony Weiner

    Perhaps you aren’t aware that Scott legalized intentionally giving someone HIV.

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois
  27. Anon[384] • Disclaimer says:

    If cops and prosecutors and jails are overwhelmed, you don’t legalize stuff like this. That just incentivizes it. You give it a 20-year sentence. Heck, the death penalty, if that’s constitutional. But you only charge and prosecute a small number of people. That means that the jails don’t contain so many prisoners, but on the criminal’s side the crime is a complete crap shoot. Every thug will know one or two guys who lost the lottery.

    (This is how the feds treat money laundering and structuring violations, by the way.)

    • Replies: @keypusher
  28. @Anon

    they only steal catalytic convertors ..it’s the platinum

    • Replies: @petit bourgeois
  29. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Catalytic converters. Three have been stolen in my neighborhood in the last 2 weeks. They use some kind of super-hot arc welder. Gets it off really quick.

    That would be a plasma cutter.

    Decades ago I hauled an old four door rusted af Chevy off for free from an old lady I knew to get its 350 SBC for core. It wouldn’t start, and she was tired of sinking money into it, she didn’t have the title, but she sold it to me for a bill of sale for ten dollars and hauling it off. We got the 350 and the THM350 out of it, and figured we’d just cut it up and throw it in the Dumpster since scrap metal was at an all time low.

    Three guys with Sawzalls need a long, long time to cut a car up to bits small enough to throw in the dumpster. The wheels and tires were all good, the battery was nearly new, etc, etc so we saved all that. I still have the steering wheel. I gave the transmission to one of the guys that helped and all the miscellaneous bits he wanted plus a lot of beer and some Craftsman tools to the other.

    God, what an ass busting project that was. We made at least eight runs to the dumpster(s) with an old pickup.

    With a plasma cutter one of us could have done it in a day easy.

  30. @petit bourgeois

    My freind’s 1970 Monte Carlo had his “Cat” STOLEN.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  31. AnonAnon says:

    What’s a good security video system to get?

    We’re pretty happy with our Ring cameras. Easy to install, it sends motion-triggered notifications to your phone or tablet, the videos are nice and clear, you can pull up a live feed at any time, and they have an entertaining neighborhood Facebook-like board where people post their videos of suspicious characters checking their car/home doors, stealing their packages, or roaming coyotes.

    Orange County has a number of city-related Facebook groups (e.g. Yorba Linda Buzz) where people report crimes and post security camera videos. I continue to be amazed at the number of people who leave laptops, phones, purses, wallets, and other druggie booty in their cars parked overnight in their driveways in the greater Los Angeles area in 2019. We’re lucky in our local area that thieves seem to mostly pull on the door handles to see if you’ve left your car unlocked and grab stuff that way.

    My in-laws got their car broken into in broad daylight at a Denny’s in Valencia near Magic Mountain last spring. My father in law went out to retrieve something out of a backpack left in their rental car and someone must have been watching and broke in after he went back inside (he left the backpack in the car). They got a nice Surface laptop, a Mortons gift card my husband had given them, and their passports. They live in a rather vibrant area on the East Coast so I would have thought they’d be more on guard but they’re lifelong Dems so in denial. The cops told them the area around Magic Mountain is pretty bad for car break ins.

    • Replies: @danand
  32. @kaganovitch

    I bought a new Accord in 1988 but got the bottom of the line model without a car radio to keep my windows from being smashed. My wife bought a $10 transistor radio to listen while she drove. A few nights later: SMASH. $10 radio gone, probably fenced for $1.

    Don’t ask me anything about the music of 1989-1992 because I didn’t have a car radio. I bought my father-in-law’s Taurus in 1993 and turned on the radio. Even though I was now old, the music seemed better.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
  33. Shouldn’t the burglar smashing the car window to gain entrance be seen as prima facie proof that the car was locked? Help me out here …

    Nope, it is merely prima facie proof of the actus reus of causing damage of property… and then you have to prove mens rea. to make your case.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  34. Clyde says:
    @XYZ (no Mr.)

    Thank God Tucker Carlson isn’t bitching about this too. A broken window is trivial in the grand scheme of things.

    Tonight he was talking about street poop in San Fransisco. No Mexicans were mentioned. I have cut out cable TV two years by now, so watched Tuck on you tube…meaning no sports ball parasites got a dime from me.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  35. Puremania says:

    I stood as anonymous witness to a guy smashing car windows in my alley 10 years ago in Chicago. He turned out to be a psycho who was one of the top villains at DontDateHimGirl.com, later called WomanSavers.com. He was held on $150K bond, and would eventually get 9 years, but not before the police leaked my name to him, and he called me from the jail. This being before the McDonald vs City of Chicago case, which established that you could now legally shoot an intruder, it was really scary. I got the States Attorney involved, but the ASA was almost worthless. No effort was made to find the leak that I know of. He pleaded guilty immediately after McDonald vs CC established that I could shoot back, so his clout with the police was over.
    I was just an ordinary, law-abiding citizen trying to help the community. I came to appreciate the guys at the tattoo parlor on Belmont with the T shirts that had a picture of a gun with caption “I Don’t Call 911”.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
  36. danand says:
    @AnonAnon

    “We’re pretty happy with our Ring cameras. Easy to install, it sends motion-triggered notifications to your phone or tablet, the videos are nice and clear, you can pull up a live feed at any time, and they have an entertaining neighborhood Facebook-like board where people post their videos of suspicious characters checking their car/home doors, stealing their packages, or roaming coyotes.”

    Anon 2X,

    Ring’s been hacked, lots of “home movies” showing up on social media sites:

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @AnonAnon
    , @rexl
  37. unit472 says:
    @SafeNow

    I recall reading about the NYC car stereo problem. It seemed one families solution was to leave their car unlocked with a blanket and pillow for a homeless person to sleep in it. I’m not sure I would want to go that far but it might make sense in San Francisco for a neighborhood to pay the most violent deranged street person to be their night watchman. Give him a cellphone ( and a 9mm?) and see if he won’t rise to the occasion as “The New Sheriff In Town”.

    • LOL: Kronos
  38. @Mr McKenna

    Not so much now, because they classify them as “found deceased” if someone isn’t agitating for an answer and don’t investigate.

  39. I remember reading an article a while back about how San Fransisco has basically decriminalized auto theft. I can’t find the link.

    If they won’t even investigate auto theft, are they going to worry about the windows? San Fransisco is clown world.

  40. JMcG says:
    @Mr McKenna

    The first time my debit card was hacked I was required to file a police report for reimbursement. That seems to no longer be the case. Crime reduction!

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    , @Mr McKenna
  41. Ed says:

    “Lawmakers struggling with prison crowding and public pressure to enact criminal justice reform have been reluctant to do anything to put more people behind bars. …“

    There is no groundswell among the public to enact criminal justice reform. There are loud activists, mostly liberals but a few conservatives, that think going soft on criminals is the way to go. The public at large not so much.

  42. @unit472

    I lived in Chicago in the early eighties. A homeless person forced his way into a friend’s car and promptly died (probably from the cold). The police assumed the dead guy was my friend and notified his mother of his passing. Interesting times.

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  43. Dan Smith says:
    @petit bourgeois

    Looked at his Wiki photo and my gaydar detector exploded. Last line confirms. Not that there’s anything wrong with giving others HIV.

  44. @Clyde

    Good on you, Clyde! It’s been 20 years for me. I’ve watched Tucker on youtube some, but not completely regularly. I’ll have to do just that. I still remember him interviewing one pro-Antifa guy with a neck like a giraffe. I don’t know why that’s so memorable, but I just never liked giraffes, I guess …

    • Replies: @Clyde
  45. “What’s a good security video system to get?”
    .
    i’m partial to pitbull mixes, dobermans, and other dogly dogs 90-110 pounds…
    .
    funny, we don’t ever lock our doors -cars or house- even if we go away for a week or more…
    we are really in the pre-suburbsn ruralish belt outside a minor city, but hardly anyone ever gets robbed around here… probably because the bad guys don’t want to risk being on the bidness end of bubba’s pitbull and/or ar 15…
    it happens…

  46. @unit472

    What would really make sense is some 12 Volt potential surfaces of bare metal poking out around the seats or something. How could someone prove it was intentional? “Sir, you know the 80’s Nissans have quite a few electrical glitches – don’t you read Consumer Reports?” “Switch, what switch?”

  47. @Anonymous

    Works great in the Colorado low desert.

  48. Scott Wiener, Democratic state senator, is what passes for conservative these days in California.

  49. Leo D says:
    @Lycurgus

    ‘Weiner from San Fransisco’…yep, that name rang a bell…

    Specifically, Mr Weiner was responsible for CHANGING the law that previously made INTENTIONALLY giving someone HIV… reducing it from a felony (3-6 yrs) to a misdemeanor (6 mo max)…see California SB239 (2017)…

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  50. EdwardM says:
    @petit bourgeois

    He negotiated with the would-be thieves and got them to agree to accept $200 for the return of his phone. The foursome walked to a nearby ATM, where the transaction was caught on tape by the cameras at the ATM.

    He is obviously a SJW dweeb, but this was a gutsy and smart move.

  51. Realist says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    31,000 car burglaries in San Francisco in 2017? Holy smokes.

    The way to avoid most crime is to not live in high crime shit hole cities, the vast majority run by Democrats.

  52. Jack D says:
    @danand

    People could hack your doorbell camera all they want – who cares?

    The people who are getting hacked inside their homes use the same usernames and passwords on multiple services. Once the password leaks once, hackers try it on other services/devices. There is automated software that runs thru a list of hacked username/password combinations. You need some kind of password manager and to use a different password for each device/account.

    • Replies: @Thea
    , @Alfa158
  53. We don’t need more people behind bars. We need more hanging judges.

    • Agree: bruce county, TWS
  54. Thea says:

    A while back this became such a problem in our town that people in my town began leaving cars unlocked intentionally.

    If someone is going to break in to your car , wouldn’t you rather not have to replace the window in addition to lost items. Plus deal with not being able to drive it until the broken glass is gone.

    • Replies: @Dtbb
  55. Thea says:
    @Jack D

    Going back decades we’ve been promised effective alternatives to passwords. Yet here we are now, required to keep an ever-growing list of complicated, unique passwords that our brains can’t remember.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  56. keypusher says:
    @Anon

    The flaw in your plan is that money launderers and currency-transaction structurers are a lot more risk averse than car-window-smashers.

  57. If illegal immigrants are doing it, I don’t even see the controversy. They have diplomatic immunity in SF and indeed throughout the state. If they’re Russian illegal immigrants that might be a different matter.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  58. AnonAnon says:
    @danand

    Any hackers to our cams will get to enjoy exciting video of our dogs relieving themselves in the backyard, the FedEx guy dropping packages on our porch, and cars pulling in and out of the driveway.

    I believe two-factor authentication helps keep hackers out.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  59. rexl says:
    @danand

    If you have nothing else to do but create passwords that is fine. O yeah, a new password looks like old time cussing, x&!!&hh(#@,yeahg. Remember ten of these, how many passwords does the average person have. How about we just start shooting some hackers, that also works, o yeah and put the execution on Facebook.

  60. Marty says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Never forget that Art Agnos is responsible for AIDS. It was his 1976 bill that legalized sodomy in California, when he was Willibrown’s #2 in the Assembly.

  61. @SafeNow

    A friend told me of someone who got tired of this and mounted razor blades underneath his car radio and one day he came and found blood on the interior carpet. A lot cheaper than a security camera, at least until a Jack D shows up for a lawsuit…

    • LOL: HammerJack
  62. @Puremania

    ” This being before the McDonald vs City of Chicago case, which established that you could now legally shoot an intruder, it was really scary.”

    You ALWAYS had the right to shoot an intruder.

    After nearly a decade rejecting Second Amendment cases, the Supreme Court has just agreed to hear New York Rifle & Pistol Association v. City of New York. It is high time and not a moment too soon. Since McDonald v. City of Chicago in 2010 when the Court incorporated “the right of individuals to keep and bear those arms in common use for self-defense and other lawful purposes” a batch of state and local statutes, with the approval of the lower courts, have made a nonsense of the Court’s ruling, reducing, in Justice Thomas’s words, the individual right to be armed to “a constitutional orphan.”

    https://www.lawliberty.org/2019/02/05/will-the-right-to-bear-arms-become-a-constitutional-orphan/

  63. What’s a good security video system to get?

    Truth is, the brand really doesn’t matter. They pretty much all do the same thing nowadays. Based on my extensive personal experience I would actually avoid brand name electronics DVRs, like Samsung or Panasonic or such, and go with a (probably Chinese) brand you never heard of. Not just to save a hundred bucks because they are cheaper but because most of the Chinese brand DVRs I have seen are even a little better than Samsung. I dislike the user interface on Samsung DVRs. Something like a Pelco, you’ll pay out the behind, those are for federal government entities. They all do the same thing with the same features. Then you just pick how large of a hard drive you want in it, which will decide how long the recording stays on the unit until it overwrites.

    They will all do things like recording based on digital motion detection, and ability to view the DVR from your smartphone.

    Unless you are an IT-inclined person, or are planning to hire one and want only the highest resolution and most expensive and feature-rich cameras, you should probably stay away from NVR solutions (with IP cameras) and stick with HD-TVI cameras (that is coaxial cable cameras, VCR style, which now come in megapixel resolution) and an H.265+ DVR. (H.265+ is the latest video encoding standard of the DVR, like I said they all do the same thing, every different brand company will offer the same platforms with the same electronic chips and same software features). Besides being cheaper the big issue here is hassle and reliability. IP and network based stuff are like computers and with IP cameras, your cameras will probably stop working and need to be reset every month or two to resolve IP issues and annoying things like that. And much harder to set up. The old school coaxial cable cameras are simpler. You run a Siamese cable to them which is a coaxial (for video) combined with an #18/2 conductor (for 12-24V DC power). Plug them in and they simply work, no network IT configuration.

    [MORE]

    This would be for a multiple camera system, not just 1 stand-alone doorbell camera. The DVRs come in 4 port, 8 port, 16 port and sometimes 32 port.

    For cameras, I would suggest something like a 2 to 4 megapixel, indoor/outdoor day/night HD-TVI camera which should have 50′ to 100′ rated infra-red LEDs to see in the dark. (All pretty standard). If they are actually going outside you want one with true WDR (Wide Dynamic Range) and BLC (automatic Back-Light Compensation) which will cost $10-20 extra, so you don’t get shadow or bleach-out problems from having very bright areas and dim areas in the same shot.

    You probably want mostly wide angle lenses, 2.8 to 3.6 mm or so, but for $10-15 bucks extra you can get them with varifocal lenses that are adjustable in the field to get the view you want. For zooming in on targets further away from the camera you need narrower lenses of increasing millimeters.

    One of the biggest take-aways I can give you is that cameras are a deterrent. You want them visible, not hidden, and all over the place because then people won’t do stuff. It’s seriously deterrent.

    Alternatively, you can “catch” video of people stealing your stuff with hidden cameras but you probably can’t do anything about it because they won’t catch the people unless it’s someone you know and can identify. The main feature of cameras is not catching people who have done stuff but preventing people from doing that stuff because they know they are on camera.

    Having video tape of your stuff getting robbed believe it or not, more often than not doesn’t actually do anything for you or get your stuff back.

    So honestly, a big portion of the effect you can even get with dummy cameras (by which I mean fake decoy cameras). Buy any brand of camera, hang them up but don’t even hook them up to anything, and get a majority of the deterrent benefit anyway. I’d still recommend actually hooking them up, and they are very cheap and affordable now so you can view what’s going on around your home on your phone while you’re away, with the DVR recording only when motion is detected so you don’t have to watch 50 hours of video in fast forward to see if anything happened, you only have video of the happenings.

    But the key is you want them highly visible as a deterrent, and preferably a bunch of them all over (even if some are dummies).

    TL;DR:

    I don’t have any affiliation with this stuff and I probably wouldn’t buy off Amazon but since everyone has access to it here’s a suitable example.

    https://www.amazon.com/Hikvision-DS-7216HQHI-K2-SUPPORTS-CH1-CH4-INCLUDED/dp/B07CWH8NVJ?ref_=ast_bbp_dp

    https://www.amazon.com/Purple-4TB-Surveillance-Hard-Drive/dp/B071KVB4F8/ref=sr_1_9?keywords=western+digital+4tb&qid=1576689941&s=electronics&sr=1-9

    https://www.amazon.com/CMHT1722WE-28-HD-TVI-Starlight-Turret-Camera/dp/B075H3PCZQ/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=HD-TVI+WDR+camera&qid=1576689743&sr=8-5

    https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-Channel-Camera-Power-Supply/dp/B0069MB6G0/ref=sr_1_3?crid=14QP1IJTOK2QZ&keywords=16+channel+power+supply+cctv&qid=1576689892&s=electronics&sprefix=16+channel+power+supply+%2Celectronics%2C202&sr=1-3

    It’s an idea. You might still want someone to install it for you and run the cable, and they may have their own ideas what kind of parts to buy. But if you can string the cables up or have a relative or friend do that for you, these things are basically plug-and-play. Plug them in and they work. (Although configuring the DVR and your smart phone for access is a little more involved, on the level of old VCR programming).

    Cable, connectors and tools:

    https://www.amazon.com/Five-Cable-Siamese-Coaxial-Surveillance/dp/B0082OTCZ0/ref=sr_1_5?keywords=siamese+cable&qid=1576690061&sr=8-5

    https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-Coaxial-Plugs-Crimping-Connectors/dp/B01FHBZP9M/ref=sr_1_10?crid=3P72AA1GDKPD2&keywords=bnc+crimp+tool&qid=1576690434&sprefix=bnc+crimp%2Caps%2C230&sr=8-10

    https://www.amazon.com/HDView-Connector-Adapter-Security-Camera/dp/B01N3PJSHS/ref=sr_1_3?crid=10KC0OF7CO3DT&keywords=crimp+bnc+connectors&qid=1576690466&sprefix=crimp+bnc%2Caps%2C184&sr=8-3

    • Replies: @JMcG
  64. Crank says:

    What are they breaking in to steal? My impression (perhaps faulty) is that the car stereo theft business is no longer a big thing since the automakers starting installing stereo systems that wouldn’t work once battery power was lost without inputting the start-up code. I just never hear much about car stereo theft any more.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  65. Jack D says:
    @The Alarmist

    Fun throwing Latin around but nope. California law provides that the crime of “vehicle burglary” is the theft of property ( of any value) from a locked vehicle. This is a felony. Theft of property from an unlocked vehicle, however, is generally a misdemeanor, unless the value of the stolen property is equal to or greater than $950. Thus, in order to convict you of vehicle burglary, the prosecution has to prove, beyond a reasonable doubt, that the vehicle was LOCKED. For example, the jury could accept the testimony of the car owner or renter that he locked the vehicle when he left it. But the vehicle renter is back home in Omaha and is not going to fly to SF at his own expense 3 times (the first 2 times the case is adjourned at the last minute) in order to give this testimony so the burglar gets off with a misdemeanor.

    What Steve is proposing, which sounds reasonable, is that the law be changed so that the jury could be instructed that broken windows are prima facie evidence (create a rebuttable presumption) that the vehicle was locked so that no further proof would be required. The defendant could still counter that evidence – for example the accused could get on the witness stand and testify that the vehicle was unlocked when he entered it and took the iPhone that he was carrying while he was arrested but that someone else must have broken the window later. And the jury could choose to believe that testimony. This seems reasonable to me, but California is no longer a place where normal reasoning applies.

  66. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Serious question for any SF residents here: Why do people vote for someone like Boudin? Do they like being crime victims? Are there no credible alternatives?

    • Replies: @Thomas
  67. Alfa158 says:
    @Jack D

    It also helps to periodically change all of those passwords to new ones, although that’s a ton of work. I still do it even though with all the various accounts I have, it means changing almost seventy passwords. At least it seems to do the trick , I have never had an issue.
    A while back I was looking at the spam folder in one of my email accounts to see if there were any valid emails inappropriately sent to spam, and found a silly old extortion email. Someone had gotten my email address and obsolete associated password, probably from one of those commercial sites that periodically get 50 million or whatever customer accounts compromised, and tried to tell me that they had hacked my email account. Supposedly that somehow allowed them to see everything I was doing on my computer so I have to wire them $500. I have to say the English was perfect so it didn’t seem to be a typical case of Kazakhs or Somalis doing The Work That Americans Won’t Do.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  68. indocon says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Problem is there that demographic change also reduces the audience for Willie Horton ads.

  69. Jack D says:
    @Thea

    We were supposed to have flying cars too, and jetpacks. Open any issue of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics from 1949 until the present and we’re going to have flying cars real soon now.

    Where’s my flying car? Where’s my jetpack?

  70. @Leo D

    Weiner also encourages deranged men dressed as women to read to children in libraries.

  71. J.Ross says:

    Interesting thing which must be explained to people: once, car and house doors were left unlocked. That was, of course, before diversity. In fact, occasionally you see references in old movies and books to car keys being left in the ignition!
    Lefties have this propaganda plank that you must have a prehistoric arthropod exploring your eating habits if you complain about diversity because, after all, how does any of this hurt you. People who work for a living know that our lives are diminished, in a million unforgivable and uncompensated ways, by diversity.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  72. @Morton's toes

    “you never ever take your car to San Francisco”

    I kept an apartment on Bush Street in lower Nob Hill for a few years and wound up selling my beat up Nissan pickup truck after a few months residency. Windows smashed twice; locks jimmed more than few times. All this effort to get at an AM radio and empty beer cans.

  73. Jack D says:
    @Crank

    You’re right about car stereos. Most cars no longer have standard stereos, they have “entertainment systems” with touch screens which are integrated into the cars electronics – navigation, sometimes HVAC and other controls, etc. These are not easy to pull out and since each one is unique to that particular model automobile, there’s no ready resale market for them like there was in the days of standard sized radios.

    What are they stealing? They target tourists who often leave luggage and valuables in their car. Even non-tourists sometimes leave valuable stuff such as laptops – they’re on the way home from work and stop at a store or restaurant and they’re not going to take their briefcase with them. Some of the people breaking in are homeless junkies – it’s “worth it” for them to break in even to steal pocket change. SF has a 2% arrest rate for vehicle burglary and even if they catch you they don’t put you in jail, so there’s basically no risk associated with breaking in. So whatever reward you get is greater than the risk.

  74. The proposal, which would eliminate a requirement that prosecutors prove a car’s doors were locked at the time of a break-in, has been shelved two years in a row in legislative committees.

    Shouldn’t the burglar smashing the car window to gain entrance be seen as prima facie proof that the car was locked? Help me out here …

    In a country that has a massive surplus of lawyers with nothing to do, but a massive shortage of doctors, it is a given that you will find a lawyer willing to argue that black is white, or if paid enough, that white is black.

    It then comes down to which side of the argument can pay the legislators more. Sometimes, nay quite often, something utterly stupid gets written into law. Well, if you don’t like the laws, you and your friends have to raise money to pay the legislators to change it. Or you could move to Ukraine, where there is less corruption, or more corruption, depending on which party you support.

    • Agree: Dtbb
  75. @petit bourgeois

    What was a catalytic converter doing on a 1970 Chevrolet??

  76. @Dumbo

    Speaking of. Is there a single Latin American capital safe enough to visit nowadays? It’ll be time soon to escape the cold up here and I’ve had to cross Buenos Aires and now Santiago off the list. Caracas is long gone of course.

    Ideally a place of some cultural interest. I consider Montevideo an also-ran so I guess that leaves Havana? Forget Brazil. BTDT.

    Why Latin America? Because I want to practice my Spanish so I can fit in better back here in the USA. The ones here don’t really appreciate my efforts.

  77. MC says:
    @Ano

    The plastic wheel covers on my 2005 economy sedan were stolen one by one, presumably to replace someone else’s missing wheel covers.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  78. Jack D says:
    @MC

    Maybe it’s like fruitcake – there’s really only one set of plastic wheelcovers and they get moved from car to car.

  79. @Mr McKenna

    because it’s not exactly impossible to hide a body

    That’s what the East River is for.

  80. @J.Ross

    We used to leave our keys in the ignition. Never had to look for them that way! And we never locked our house except when we went to bed, or away on vacation.

    Never had a single problem in all those years. Yeah, the neighborhood was 100% white. Weird how that worked.

    • Replies: @Moses
  81. @Steve Sailer

    Don’t ask me anything about the music of 1989-1992

    You didn’t miss much. Believe it or not Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer were taken seriously during this era. I blame In Living Color.

  82. @JMcG

    Your first mistake was having a debit card. There is no need for one.

    • Replies: @JMcG
  83. Whiskey says: • Website

    Letting criminals go free is hugely popular. Just not with White men. Non Whites love this. So do White Women. Ditto gays. Violent thuggery pays. White men are too beta and non violent. Winning societies breed lots of violent thugs. That equals sexy men and increasing not nosediving bithrates.

    This is a simple dominance play. You will pay and they will wreck and steal your stuff.

  84. What’s a good security video system to get?

    How about a homemade “Spiderman” system that would spray sticky orange string all over an intruder? Technically, that’s a “mantrap”, but as it’s not fatal nor even injurious, just embarrassing, it might get you through a jury trial.

    Another idea is an alarm that screams, “Help! I’m being stolen by a homosexual!” For California, in English and Spanish. That might work for bikes, laptops, and smartphones, as well.

    Allow me to state for the record that I always lock my car doors, as does my entire family.

    The late poet Bill Holm, who lived in Minneota, Minnesota, not only left his car doors unlocked at night, he kept the keys in the ignition, so he wouldn’t have to look for them when in a hurry.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minneota,_Minnesota#2000_census

    Sometimes I’d park our old van in a small town or at a rural store, and lock it, which was a loud process. If someone was sitting within earshot, I’d apologize and tell them they were to be trusted; the electric sliding door itself wasn’t. It had a tendency to open on its own volition.

  85. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    San Francisco DA-elect Chesa Boudin, son of Brinks Robbery/Ambush getaway driver Kathy Boudin…

    …and foster son of Bill Ayres and Bernardine Dohrn. It was in Chesa’s living room that Barack Obama’s political career was initiated.

  86. @Alfa158

    …so it didn’t seem to be a typical case of Kazakhs or Somalis doing The Work That Americans Won’t Do.

    I think you mean Nigerians.

    Kazakhs are too busy changing alphabets (once again) to get involved with something this complicated. Somalis are more into piracy at home, and interstate teen prostitution rings here, with their own kind as both customers and victims.

  87. MEH 0910 says:

    OT:

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
  88. I’m not sure about the math I propose… But people in California have a 1 in 4o chance of being victimized. Correct me if I’m wrong.

    Heres the table. (see bottom line).

    http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/cacrime.htm

  89. @HammerJack

    No kidding… the bullshit meter just “pinned”.

  90. danand says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Ghost, more good news for San Franciscans, at least it is if you happen to be the member of a street gang.

    San Franciscans Celebrate the End of Gang Injunctions; Concerned About Secret Database
    by San Francisco No Injunctions Coalition

    “Tuesday Dec 17th, 2019 8:36 PM
    San Franciscans Celebrate the End of Gang Injunctions: Community Members Still Concerned

    San Francisco will terminate the injunctions on December 31, as a result of community pressure on City Attorney Dennis Herrera. The San Francisco No Injunctions Coalition, formed in response to this racist policing policy, has been building community opposition to the injunctions and will be celebrating this important victory for San Franciscans.”

    Every single person ever named on the injunctions is a black or brown male. This is a total of 150 black and brown San Franciscans and their families. Even though SFPD has ample documentation about several white gangs, the City Attorney has never targeted them.”

  91. keypusher says:
    @HammerJack

    Well, I’d go to Buenos Aires in a heartbeat myself, but I loved Montevideo when I visited (for work) early this year. Very charming and pretty. I’ve never been to Punta del Este, but it’s supposed to be lovely. Long way to go for a resort though. I have friends who really love Peru.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  92. @JMcG

    Agreed. A year or two in one of America’s “Legacy Cities” will tell you all you need to know about the Crime Problem. Specifically, that the official stats wildly understate Negro Crime–and (in my case) this was back when at least some negro crime got reported and prosecuted. Now it’s being legislated out of existence. If a negro does it, it’s not crime! Now that’s privilege.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  93. Thomas says:
    @William Badwhite

    Partially to blame is convoluted local politics (San Francisco has no other kind). Boudin’s opponents, all prosecutors, divided what there is of a “law-and-order” vote in the city. The leading prosecutor candidate also had gotten some ill will by being appointed to the open acting DA seat shortly before the election by the mayor when the outgoing DA abruptly resigned. And San Francisco uses ranked-choice voting beloved by lefties, so there’s an “instant runoff” if no candidate wins an outright majority on the first round. Boudin won with 50.83% of that vote. Kamala Harris’ predecessor as the DA, the infamous Terence “Fluffy” Halinan (who seemed to spend more effort prosecuting police than criminals), got elected in a similar way.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  94. Flip says:
    @HammerJack

    I’ve had friends go to Mexico City and they think it is safe enough.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  95. @Thomas

    Thanks. We lived in SF briefly but I traveled all the time and never got around to figuring out the politics. It just seemed like everyone was insane.

  96. JMcG says:
    @Lars Porsena

    Thanks for taking the time to post that.

  97. Wiggy says:

    Democrats did the math on how many of their constituents wouldn’t be available to vote on election day if convictions ramped up and said fuggetaboutit.

  98. JMcG says:
    @ScarletNumber

    That’s a long, long way from my first mistake.

    • LOL: ScarletNumber
  99. Thea says:
    @Jack D

    They are right over there, by the cold fusion reactor

  100. Nothing happy about that cold winter night in Chicago. It was well into 3 in the morning when they finally brought my vehicle back. And it was a long drive back middle illinois that snowy evening.

    I have had this experience twice ponce in Ca and then in Chicago (2000) and neither was fun —

    lost all of my SLR Cannon AE-1 equipment zooms, filters, bags, developing bag . . . the works, my photographers days were over.

    In Chicago I was pretty sure I saw my car go past me about twenty minutes after I parked it. Just one of those odd feelings you tell yourself isn’t true — until you are looking at an empty space where your car was. But then in Chicago visitors forget where they park all the time, so I just assumed it was me. When I finally decided, it was stolen and called the police, the response was,

    “Is your car worth stealing?”

    That was a short call. Went back and searched again, there was my car in a different spot, with window smashed out and my texts and passport flown the coupe — apparently they went for a joy ride and left me with that gut wrenching marijuana odor.

    For those that have had this experience — its only fun years down the road — many many many many years.

    • Agree: JMcG
  101. Dtbb says:
    @Thea

    I concur. I have owned quite a few convertibles. All you need is a knife to break in. Never locked them. Luckily no problems so far.

  102. Marty says:
    @newrouter

    Leftists understood, better than most Schwarzenegger voters, the import of that victory. It was the last gasp of a people with expectations of living a good life in an Edenic state?

    At that same time, ‘03, I spoke to a 7th grader, Egyptian, about his school in El Cerrito. He told me that his black teacher had said, “white people are gonna have to come down a few notches.”

  103. @Anon

    Car thieves LOVE Prius catalytic converters. They’re quite expensive:

    Question: Do cars manufactured in China and India for the domestic market have catalytic conveters? I’ve never seen the issue discussed.

  104. Moses says:
    @HammerJack

    Can confirm. Grew up in a rural White area. Mother left her keys in the ignition every night for years. We never locked the door, didn’t even know where the key was. That included when the family went away on vacation. We just asked the neighbors to keep an eye on it.

    I went away for college. Back in my hometown on a break I met a friend. Reflexively I locked the car door. He looked at me and shook his head slowly, saying “You’ve been in the city too long.”

    Irony is my same friend had his family’s isolated home broken into while they were on vacation, so crime was not completely unknown, but was rare.

  105. Clyde says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Got to cut cable TV to deny sports ball idiots and their plantation overseers their money. Just another scam and Trump uses this word all the time

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  106. Are we talking about the law and broken windows?! Woohoo!

    In Mexinchifornia, laws, police, and prosecutors are both unfair and ineffectual (cf. anarcho-tyranny).

    In Oklahoma (and other civilised places) these things are fair but firm:

    The difference is night and day.

    The first breeds mutual contempt between the government and the governed; the latter mutual respect.

  107. Clyde says:
    @Mr McKenna

    Agreed. A year or two in one of America’s “Legacy Cities” will tell you all you need to know about the Crime Problem.

    Thanks God we don’t live in a legacy city with crappy old wooden sewer pipes and crap neighbors. Though disheartening, I see fewer Christmas lights this year.

  108. Lawmakers struggling with prison crowding and public pressure to enact criminal justice reform have been reluctant to do anything to put more people behind bars.

    California says it can’t afford to put more criminals in jail due to overcrowding and the expense of incarceration. I’m one of those people who thinks outside the box and I have a great suggestion: deport inmates who are in this country illegally. A Congressional Research Service report released in August 2012 found that 12.7 percent of inmates in the state correctional system were illegal aliens. You could save a lot of money and free up a lot of space if you could reduce the prison population by 12.7 percent, or whatever the percentage of illegals is by now.

    https://www.opslens.com/2018/01/us-correctional-systems-illegal-immigrant-population/

  109. @Jack D

    Hey, Jack, maybe it’s coincidence, but did you get this bit from Instapundit? That’s one of his themes.

  110. @HammerJack

    Why do you consider Montevideo an “also ran”, HJ? I really want to know. Is Lima totally off the list too? (We’d like to see that Machu Picu dealy.)

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  111. @keypusher

    Thanks for the info. Did you get there via Buenos Aires and a boat ride across the Rio del Plato, or fly out of Miami?

  112. @Marty

    sodomy in California, when he was Willibrown’s #2 in the Assembly

    Euphemism overload!

  113. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Pwoduct wiability is the conventional answer, a bigger one is that people with capital figure the gummint will just change the regs to throttle them if it actually works so they don’t bother. Or it could be that most people actually realize the danger and avoid it while talking as if it’s what they “really want”.

    Molt Taylor’s Aerocar actually was a pretty good car and a pretty good airplane and he actually got it type certificated by the FAA. I talked with him on several occasions. There was some market for it and neither Detroit nor Wichita was interested. It was a disruptive concept and aviation-real commercial aviation- is 100 percent sustaining, zero percent disruptive since, well, a long time. Too many other places for capital?

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  114. @AnonAnon

    Any hackers to our cams will get to enjoy exciting video of our dogs relieving themselves in the backyard, the FedEx guy dropping packages on our porch, and cars pulling in and out of the driveway.

    “Minnesota Nice”:

    Porch Pirate Leaves ‘Thank You’ Note After Stealing Package From St. Paul Doorstep

    https://i0.wp.com/www.twincities.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/package-1-e1576254000100.jpg?fit=620%2C9999px&ssl=1

  115. KevinB says:

    Unlike the advice above, I would stay away from coax and go with IP cameras. Coax is old, obsolete tech, and everything is moving to IP, including professional content streaming. A major benefit of going in the IP direction is that you can add wireless cameras to your IP Network, saving you from having to run Cat6 cable to difficult spots. However, this works with one or two cameras only as more than two 8mp will probably swamp your wireless bandwidth. As well, you can integrate your cameras with a home automation system that sits on your network.

    If you want simplicity, there are surveillance packages available on Amazon, Best Buy, and Costco that combine a couple of cameras with a pre-built NVR that also operates as a switch.

    If you want to summon your inner nerd and do a DIY (as I did), POE, Cat6 cable runs, plus a used Cisco POE switch, combined with a software NVR like Blue Iris will give you extraordinary home surveillance that was only available to high end homes just a few short years ago. Aim for 8 megapixel cameras or better (12 is the new high end standard) with established names like Hikvision or Dahua. You want LED nightvision in your cameras and for select areas, two way audio. A 4mm to 6mm lens is a good compromise for home footage where distances are not that great.

    Watch a couple of youtube videos of 8 megapixel footage to get a sense of how good these cameras are now, and then start planning where you want to place the cameras using a site like this one: https://calculator.ipvm.com/

    The following site has all the info you need if you want to research individual cameras and gear. Here’s a link to a discussion of a home built NVR: https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/help-me-spend-some-money-specing-out-a-48-camera-blue-iris-server-and-storage.42464/

    I have 12 cameras around my place in LA, and as such, have thwarted any number of vibrants pursuing a grift as my Blue Iris NVR has very good motion detection that, in turn, is hooked into my home automation. Depending on the situation, I get notified wherever I am if something odd is going on. For example, if someone is on my porch in the middle of the night, a couple of lights come on, waking me up, and my bedroom television comes on with an image of the scene. If the lights haven’t deterred the prowler, it’s good fun to magically appear in the act with a baseball bat.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  116. Dumbo says:
    @HammerJack

    I don’t think Buenos Aires is too dangerous (for Latin American standards), although things might get worse with the new government.

    Uruguay has nice places besides Montevideo such as Punta del Este, Piriápolis, Colonia, etc. All very close by as it’s a small country.

    Some say good things about Lima (Peru) but I’ve never been there.

    • Thanks: HammerJack
  117. Wasn’t there a startup company in Israel marketing smashproof lexan windows for popular cars during the last intifada? Seems like they’d do well to market in LA and SF now.

  118. You shouldn’t post articles from the Babylon Bee as if they were real news.

  119. @Anonymous

    Too many other places for capital?

    Too many ambulance-chasing lawyers like yourself — you’re the guy with this same Elmer-Fudd crap every time someone mentions anything to do with light aircraft. Every flying car, so far, has been neither a good car nor a good aircraft. It’s not like it’s impossible, but the demands for each mode are sure conflicting.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @donvonburg
  120. Jack D says:
    @HammerJack

    Medellin is supposedly very nice nowadays. In Mexico there are places like San Miguel Allende. Costa Rica is pretty safe I think. Does it have to be a capital?

    Don’t let the cartel violence headlines throw you – it’s only in certain places. Back when NYC had 2,000 murders/year, there were thousands of towns all across America (some of them only a few miles away) where you leave your doors unlocked and where there hadn’t been a murder in decades. There are plenty of places in Latin America that are safe for tourism.

  121. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Brinks Robbery/Ambush getaway driver Kathy Boudin

    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Boudin

    Boudin was released from prison on parole in 2003 and became an adjunct professor at Columbia University.

    I’ve heard of the school-to-prison pipeline, but there is also a prison-to-university pipeline. It is used by killers and terrorists of the kind that are idolised by the Left.

    Another person who passed along this pipeline is Jawad Botmeh. He was convicted of involvement in two non-lethal car bomb explosions, one at the Israeli Embassy in London, and another at a building that housed a number of British Jewish charities. Released from prison after 12 years, Jeremy Corbyn gave him a character reference that enabled him to work as a manager at London Metropolitan University. He sits on the University’s board of governors as an elected staff representative.

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/12/labours-anti-semitism-shame-must-never-be-forgiven/

    Not all terrorists or killers are eligible for the pipeline. Applications are considered strictly on a who/whom basis.

  122. @HammerJack

    Speaking of. Is there a single Latin American capital safe enough to visit nowadays?

    Santo Domingo is fairly safe, and has the advantage of being close to the east coast. You can combine the visit with some dentistry if you like.

    Not a vast amount culturally, though this is the oldest city in the New World, and you can see the tomb of Christopher Columbus who is also buried in Seville.

    There are lots of wonderful apartments on AirBnb for as little as $80 per night.

    https://www.airbnb.com/rooms/32394062?adults=2&check_in=2020-01-10&check_out=2020-01-17&source_impression_id=p3_1576771021_BFwwgoLVGKQCvU0a

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  123. El Dato says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Don’t you become accessory to murder if you randomly post bail for some guy who comes back and kills?

  124. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    Sacramento is run by the prison guards union– the teachers and nurses aren’t exactly mendicants yet can only dream of that penthouse of clout. Apparently it makes too much extra work for them to send over pesky violent burglars to incarcerate so either legalize something else, say, arson, as a compromise, or fund more six-figure-salary CO’s, maybe 2,000 for the opening ante. This is an environmental, quality-of-life issue for them and, really, for all the people of California when you think.about it. Pay up

  125. @Dave Pinsen

    The idea that free hand to perpetrators is a leftist device is ridiculous. Fending off for yourself, on your budget, is what right wing expects. In contrast, Papa Lenin and Uncle Stalin never had a tolerant attitude towards thieves. But anything a boomer dislikes is “leftist”.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
  126. Anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Molt Taylor’s Aerocar was neither the best car nor the best airplane, but it did both well enough to be useful. And I am not a lawyer. I don’t even particularly like them. I’m just tired of hearing the same stupid bullshit excuse for failing. GA was run by punk shitheads for years.

  127. Tony says:
    @Marty

    Are you surprised? He is greek after all.

  128. @HammerJack

    California emissions laws were implemented in 1968. That is when smog emission devices became of age for the internal combustion engine in this state, including cat convertors. My friend’s 1970 Monte Carlo was equipped with a typical 350 c.i. standard small block V8, and smog equipment mandated by CARB.

    The platinum gets so hot it burns a lot of unspent fuel and other pollutants. Any automobile before 1968 goes for a fortune now. Just try buying a 1967 VW bug in this market. The prices will astound you.

    Personally, I ride a 1977 Yamaha RD400-D, and the Air Quality Management District in Orange County, California keeps sending me letters, because I am a “Gross Polluter,” but they cannot take my high powered, legally registered two-stroke street legal bike from me. It is almost like they are trying to confiscate my right to travel, before they try to confiscate my guns.

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    , @Anonymous
  129. @HammerJack

    My first car was a 1969 Volkswagen Squareback, 1600 cc with Bosch fuel injection to meet California’s rigid CARB standards. The Bosch injectors were subject to vapor lock and did not work.

    I converted it to dual german Weber carburetors.

    Chevy/GMC complied with CARB in that same year with catalytic convertors, which contain platinum. It is precious metal theft.

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  130. @John Johnson

    That could be deemed as a crime, but he could have some “legislative immunity.”

    Rule 1: Never trust a ______!

  131. Anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @petit bourgeois

    Weber is an Italian carburetor, not German, and all the Type IIIs were fuel injected to fit under the engine lid.

    Plenty of pre-67 cars are available in the rest of the US. A few are exported to California, but not as many as you would think. I passed on a very clean four door ‘65 Olds with a transmission problem for scrap price a couple of weeks ago.

    Both here and in California more older cars than not have been refitted with later electronic systems because they drive better that way. Survivalist mentality people wanting the EMP proof old tech gets a lot of talk but no one wants the maintenance.

  132. JMcG says:
    @petit bourgeois

    I’ve had a lot of motorcycles over the years, but I’ve never had more fun than I had on my RD400. I’m glad I survived it. Good luck to you and long may you luxuriate in that lovely blue smoke.

  133. @Achmed E. Newman

    Montevideo is fine but I’m not sure it has enough cultural “heft” (mainly in terms of institutions) to keep me occupied for a week. OTOH, it’s so close to Buenos Aires that if I went to Uruguay I’d find it hard to resist going to Argentina as well.

  134. @Flip

    Mexico is one country to which I will never, ever return.

  135. @Jonathan Mason

    Thanks, but I’d rather take one of those long flights from JFK if possible and sleep in a flatbed seat. If the flight is long enough you can pretty much get a full night’s sleep and hit the ground running upon arrival.

    That, plus the fact that Santo Domingo is unlikely to suit me culturally. That, plus the fact that they’re killing gringos in that country, aren’t they?

  136. Dave Pinsen says: • Website
    @Dacian Julien Soros

    In America since the 1960s, laxity toward crime has been the province of the left.

    • Replies: @Dacian Julien Soros
  137. @Achmed E. Newman

    As Donzi Lancaster likes to say, let’s look at the “horse’s mouth document”.

    https://rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgMakeModel.nsf/0/9ed5fab251741da68525672a0065fad8/$FILE/4a16.pdf

    The Taylor Aerocar was type certificated 13 December 1956 and last Revised 20 Feb, 1962. Both of those dates were at least ten years before any aviation magazine will show in a total text dump of its articles the regular expressions “product liability” , “tort reform”, or “liability crisis”

    Surely no other aircraft has the following in its TCDS:

    Minimum Fuel Octane 80/87 Aviation Fuel.

    Caution.Avoid Engine overspeeding during auto operation.

    Avoid continuous engine operation between 950-1050 and 1900-2050 RPM (As aircraft).”(b)At fuel gage, “Capacity 23.5 gallons.”(c)Above headlight switch, “Use Low Beam For Landing.”(d)At baggage compartment, “Max. Baggage 60 pounds.”(e)In addition to the above placards, the prescribed operating limitations indicated by”#” markings under Section I must be displayed by permanent placards, instrument markings or reports (Weight and Balance Report.)

    NOTE 3. Conversion from Auto to Airplane to be accomplished in accordance with Item 401 check list

    The Aerocar was famous in its day, having been featured in a TV show called “Love That Bob”, a/k/a The Bob Cummings Show. The failure of inventor Molt Taylor to monetize his (admittedly ingenious) invention was due to a number of things, including those discussed in Clayton Christiansen’s The Innovator’s Dilemma. But also because Taylor was, to put it bluntly, a bit of a nutter. I never met or interacted with him but have talked to quite a few people in the EAA hobby who did. Smart, hard working, but unable to work with anyone else.

    He later invented an airplane intended for DIY construction made out of “Taylor Paper Glass”, which was kraft paper impregnated with fiberglass resin. The plans were printed on the Kraft Paper and became part of the structure. He used a Citroen 2CV engine, an obvious nonstarter in the US, and drove the prop via a long drive shaft through a Phelps Dodge coupling. One or two actually still fly.

  138. @Dave Pinsen

    I don’t think it’s right to alter the meaning of “left”, just because the American system uses left and right for its one-party subdivisions.

    The left created USSR, Mao’s China, Red Khmers, Fidel’s Cuba, the Spanish CNT, the Scandinavian welfare state, the British NHS, and many other things. Carlos Danger’s lot did not try to get anything of the above.

    American “left” just uses the lingo, for the sake gaining public validation, but their words are as true as the big beautiful wall. I seriously doubt that, save for some theatricals, the rate of incarceration significantly differed between Republic-run states and Democrat-run states. When jailing is in fashion, it is generously offered to as many voters as possible. But now, jailing is out of fashion.

  139. Anonymous[253] • Disclaimer says:
    @petit bourgeois

    I think the first catalyst equipped car sold in the US was 1974 and in 1975 almost all gasoline burning cars were catalyst. Unleaded gas was rolled out nationwide then.

    Chrysler offered the Lean Burn system which when it worked worked well. And 3/4 and 1 ton trucks and vans were also under different standards and could be no catalyst a while longer. Those were the last leaded fuel compatible cars sold in the US. Leaded fuel was banned for general sale sometime in the late 80s or early nineties.

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