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You know what we’ve been missing? Right! Lately, we just haven’t had enough New York Times op-eds on the theme of How Evil Whites Are from self-promoting Asian women writers. But happy days are here again:

When Asian-Americans Have to Prove We Belong
This isn’t the first time we’ve been treated as a threat.

By Jia Lynn Yang, April 10, 2020

Jia Lynn Yang is a deputy national editor at The New York Times and the author of the forthcoming book “One Mighty and Irresistible Tide: The Epic Struggle Over American Immigration, 1924-1965,” from which this essay is adapted.

The coronavirus pandemic has unleashed a torrent of anti-Asian racism in America that shows no signs of abating. Asian-Americans have been spat on in the streets, harassed and insulted. Even children have been attacked as our fellow citizens blame us for a virus that threatens our families no less than any other household.

This is not the first season of darkness for Asian-Americans in this country. Nearly 80 years ago, Japanese-Americans were forced from their homes into barren internment camps.

The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos. But who can remember which nations were on which side in World War II?

 
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  1. But will Australian kick them out of the Australian government?

    • Replies: @BenKenobi
    "If there is hope, it lies with the Aussies."
    - George Orwell (um, I think)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sehX0HNUCcA
    , @Redneck farmer
    What, they still have to worry about melamine in the baby formula?
    , @Anonymous
    They have to back.

    Stop educating the children of the criminal asiatic oligarchs in our Universities. Often spies, always affiliated with the dictatorship.
  2. Since hate-whiteyism is such a magnanimously broad church movement, and the late Professor Ignatiev has assured us that the 19th century Irish were also nonwhites, can Denis Kearney also be retroactively declared an oppressed POC in natural solidarity with contemporary Asian lady journalists?

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @fish

    .... can Denis Kearney also be retroactively declared an oppressed POC in natural solidarity with contemporary Asian lady journalists?
     
    Excommunication is eternal......
  3. @J.Ross
    But will Australian kick them out of the Australian government?
    https://twitter.com/KeiraSavage00/status/1249048005283426305

    “If there is hope, it lies with the Aussies.”
    – George Orwell (um, I think)

    • Replies: @Franz
    Ohio people just miss the Kent State shootings and pushing for another, eh?

    https://twitter.com/o_rips/status/1248593031546023939
  4. Asian-Americans have been spat on in the streets, harassed and insulted.

    Insulted, you say? Is nothing sacred? Hey, I’ve been spat on and much, much worse on the streets of New York City–as well as attacked in my home and my place of business–for no crime other than being white. And there are vastly more of us with stories like mine than there are of you. Yet you never, ever hear our stories in the mass media. Why would that be?

    Even children have been attacked as our fellow citizens blame us for a virus that threatens our families no less than any other household.

    Funny you should mention. Here’s Tucker last night, regarding Wuhan.

    Here’s the mystery: The Chinese government allowed 5 million residents to flee the city before they locked it down in January. Most of them presumably went to other places in China. And yet, according to the Chinese – as well as all available evidence we now have in the West – there were no other major outbreaks in China. Not in Shanghai, not in Chengdu, not in Beijing.

    Meanwhile, other cities all over Europe and the United States have been brought to their knees by the virus. How could this be? It doesn’t seem to make any sense at all.

    For some reason, almost no one in the American media has even asked about it. That’s strange. At this point, we have no real explanation for why the coronavirus spread throughout the West, but not throughout China. We should find out.

    • Thanks: ic1000, Brás Cubas, HammerJack
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    Allow me to add a paranoid footnote to Tucker's question -- of course from my vast annals of classic TV trivia.

    In a 1966 Mission Impossible the Russians are training an elite corps of spies to look, sound and act like typical Americans, to fit in here, mingle widely and await further instructions. What these plants don't know is that just before arrival they're going to be dosed with the plague, to unwittingly spread across the US
    , @Lot
    “ The Chinese government allowed 5 million residents to flee the city before they locked it down in January. ”

    The 5 million number I have repeated myself because it came from a credible local Wuhan government source and repeated in newspapers.

    It doesn’t appear to be correct however, and it seems suspicious given Wuhan’s population is 11 million. The AEI notes the total of all flights out of Wuhan in the prior 3 weeks had 400,000 people. Trains and cars also move people out of course, but some of those were people simply going through Wuhan or returning home after a short visit. And between poverty and lack of parking, I doubt most Wuhaners have cars.

    AEI thinks the better estimate is a little over a million fled Wuhan before the lockdown. That just makes a lot more sense, hard to imagine nearly half a major city’s population leaving in such a short time, even in a mass panic.

    I mention this because I love Tucker and don’t like seeing him make a mistake.
    , @Hail

    all over Europe and the United States have been brought to their knees by the virus. How could this be? It doesn’t seem to make any sense at all.
     
    It does if you entertain the Corona Coup D'etat idea.

    (The memo from Central Command to Sweden got lost in the mail.)

  5. Thanks. I’d forgotten to commit a hate crime against Asians for giving the coronavirus to the world. Now, how exactly do I go about this?

    • LOL: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    https://www.superdickery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/97_4_0000058.jpg

    J/K, Japs are pretty blameless this time ;)

    , @J.Ross
    Start by recognizing when a liar or con artist slips a completely unreasonable conflation into a larger statement. There never was any issue with "Asians" here. Nobody ever called it "the Asian virus" or demanded that "Asia" pay compensation for mishandling the outbreak.
    , @Exalted Cyclops
    Surely you already know the answer to this question, dear Miss Marple. You don't have to do anything but exist. That will be sufficient. No doubt the famous "sumdood" will take up your cause and slice up some Asian on your behalf. Should the Stasi-Polizei - always willing to obey any order from the ADL central command - catch him, his relatives will be there on the Mockingbird Media to tell us that Mr. Sumdood is innocent because his real moniker is Dindu Nuffins. It's your fault in any case, because (((they))) say so.

    In the world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

    , @Anonymous
    Just snub them in all interactions. Employment, Social gatherings, business patronage.

    They have to go back.
    , @Ragno

    I’d forgotten to commit a hate crime against Asians for giving the coronavirus to the world. Now, how exactly do I go about this?
     
    Easy peasey: merely point out to a member of the media that the same blacks attacking orthodox Jews in the street are the people attacking Chinese folks in public, often in broad daylight.

    Voila!: by the time they're through pointing and sputtering their indignation (in print or electronically), you may rest assured you will have Officially Committed a Hate Crime.
  6. Jia Lynn Yang

    ?
    He/she/sir/them/they, need to go back to wherever they hell they/them came from.
    Easy.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    It
    , @Kylie
    "He/she/sir/them/they, need to go back to wherever they hell they/them came from.
    Easy."

    And take their family members with them.
  7. @miss marple
    Thanks. I'd forgotten to commit a hate crime against Asians for giving the coronavirus to the world. Now, how exactly do I go about this?


    J/K, Japs are pretty blameless this time 😉

    • Replies: @Trinity
    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks. Oh wait, Jewish Bolsheviks wrote and drew those comics. Never mind.
  8. Anonymous[124] • Disclaimer says:

    America is anti-Asian, so why is Jia in America paying taxes to support the imperialist US government that aids Zionist tyranny over Palestinians?

    The reason why US is anti-Asian is simple. Every nation needs some enemy. Due to PC taboo, Americans can’t say anything about the three most destructive groups: Jews, blacks, homos.

    So, they dump all their rage on approved targets like Russia, Iran, and Asia.

    But Jia’s ilk betrayed their own people by choosing to live in the Imperialist Metropole of the world.

    Why so surprised that the US is the way it is? It was founded om imperialism and genocide. And as if the great land and resources weren’t enough, US had to take over Asian Pacific, destroy Palestine, and in 20 yrs wreck Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, and wage new wars or sanctions on Russia and Iran. Hypocrisy and arrogance are baked into the American character.
    If Jia chose to live in such an imperialist metrople and write for NYT that supports Zionist tyranny, what utterl lack of self-awareness.

    • Agree: mark green
    • Replies: @Jack D
    Except this is false. Americans are not "anti-Asian" to begin with. We have nothing but love for our friends from Korea, Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam, etc. We have no problems with Chinese when they are democracy supporters in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore. The only ones we have any ill feelings for are the rude Chinese Communists who have brought about a worldwide epidemic through their actions and who have been doing their best to undercut American interests in multiple ways. So naturally there is push back against their aggression. Generally speaking, Americans are nice to people who are nice to us and not so nice to people who try to harm us.
    , @Alfa158
    I think you’re missing an important point. People like Jia do not consider themselves to be merely living in an imperialist metropole. They are here with the intent of colonizing the imperialist metropole, replacing the imperialist inhabitants, and terraforming it into a society that fits them and works for their benefit. They aren’t (((alone))) in this enterprise and they are almost certainly going to succeed. You are like an Iroquois asking himself why all these White people would want to sail all the way across the Great Water to live in a continent that is wilderness and populated with Indians.
    , @syonredux

    America is anti-Asian, so why is Jia in America
     
    The surest way to defeat an enemy is via demographic conquest:

    The U.S. white majority will soon disappear forever




    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/The-US-white-majority-will-soon-disappear-forever-13806738.php

    White Children Will Soon Become the Minority in America

    The U.S. Census Bureau projects that, by the middle of 2020, nonwhites will account for the majority of the nation’s 74 million children.
     
    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/white-children-will-soon-become-minority-america-113076


    Reflecting a demographic shift, 109 U.S. counties have become majority nonwhite since 2000

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/21/u-s-counties-majority-nonwhite/

    The US will become ‘minority white’ in 2045, Census projects

    The new statistics project that the nation will become “minority white” in 2045. During that year, whites will comprise 49.7 percent of the population in contrast to 24.6 percent for Hispanics, 13.1 percent for blacks, 7.9 percent for Asians, and 3.8 percent for multiracial populations
     
    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2018/03/14/the-us-will-become-minority-white-in-2045-census-projects/
    , @Moses
    The only thing worse than being a Chinese in a racist America built by bigoted Whites is being a Chinese not allowed to immigrate to a racist America built by bigoted Whites.
  9. Where did this man go? It hurts, bros….

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Yeah he should probably speak from a script more often.
  10. “One Mighty and Irresistible Tide.”

    Note the wording here: implies that mass immigration is something inevitable, akin to a force of nature, rather than a policy choice.

    • Agree: BenKenobi, HammerJack
    • Replies: @Woodsie

    implies that mass immigration is something inevitable
     
    not implicitly, but explicitly stating that it is from 'outside' the USA, not a choice of the USA (the sandy beach of the analogy) but a thing that will overtake and cover the USA. Unless of course, the tide turns. We need another 1924-1965 period of restricted entry.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “One Mighty and Irresistible Tide.”
     
    Sounds destructive and inconvenient, like a molasses flood or explosive diarrhea.

    It also harkens back to Lothrop Stoddard’s prescient title:

    The Rising Tide of Color: The Threat Against White World-Supremacy
  11. @BenKenobi
    "If there is hope, it lies with the Aussies."
    - George Orwell (um, I think)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sehX0HNUCcA

    Ohio people just miss the Kent State shootings and pushing for another, eh?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    A lot of Eastern European and Appalachian people in Ohio. Of course the same is true in Michigan and Illinois.
  12. “Calm down, it’s not genocide, it’s not an attack on your culture or heritage –”
    Afghan Muslim “Refugees” repay Greek hospitality by chopping down thousands of olive trees on the island of Lesvos.
    https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/04/07/an-attack-on-greek-heritage-migrants-chop-thousands-of-olive-trees-on-lesvos/

    • Replies: @Clyde
    I would bulldoze those useless refugees into the ocean for chopping down those 5000 old olive trees. Where were the Greek police and army? Armed local men?
    , @Colin Wright
    '“Calm down, it’s not genocide, it’s not an attack on your culture or heritage –”
    Afghan Muslim “Refugees” repay Greek hospitality by chopping down thousands of olive trees on the island of Lesvos.'


    Aside from everything else, that's gross plagiarism. Chopping down all the olive trees is an invention of another group of unwanted immigrants.
  13. This article is actually not hating on white people. The author talks about historical situations, and then says that current Asian Americans are being targeted during the coronavirus pandemic. I don’t see where the hatred is?

    • Agree: John Achterhof
    • Disagree: botazefa
    • Replies: @Anon

    current Asian Americans
     
    Yeah, 'current' asian American is correct, because you won't be in America much longer. :)
    , @res

    This article is actually not hating on white people.
     
    For one thing there is the noticeable dog that did not bark. Actual (current!) incidents with information about the perpetrators.

    Wait, here is one. And it just happens to be from NYC.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/woman-needs-stitches-after-anti-asian-hate-crime-attack-city-n1177146

    Let's take a look at how the WaPo reported that (though they did at least include a link to the original article with the picture).
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/08/coronavirus-spreads-so-does-online-racism-targeting-asians-new-research-shows/

    On March 9, a woman in San Francisco said she was spit on by a man yelling expletives about China, the New York Times reported. Later that same month, an Asian woman riding a New York City bus was targeted by several other passengers who called her a racial slur and accused her of causing coronavirus, WPIX reported. One of the attackers then struck the woman on the head with an umbrella, resulting in an injury that needed stitches, according to the news station.
     
    P.S. You might consider whether or not your alias is an example of projection. Though I do like the truth in advertising quality it has.
    , @Forbes
    Some questions answer themselves...

    Q: I don’t see where the hatred is?
    A: Asian Americans are being targeted... Implicitly by White Americans.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    This article is actually not hating on white people.
     
    Of course it is. The author complains about past restrictive immigration policies that favored whites, and how Asians had to ‘prove’ themselves to whites to gain full citizenship.

    Ironically, her cited ‘American’ hero Mike Masaoka proved himself to be an anti-American Trojan Horse insurgent—he was not satisfied with Asian-Americans being accepted as an American citizens; he also ungratefully sought to import more Asians. Jia Lynn Yang:

    In the years that followed, a small group of Jewish lawmakers fought to abolish the quotas. In 1952, when Congress embarked on its most ambitious overhaul of the country’s immigration system in decades, they recognized their best opportunity in a generation.

    Masaoka joined the fray, lobbying for a provision that gave Asians the right to naturalize and for an easing of the nearly comprehensive ban on Asian immigration.
     
    Furthermore her book, despite her whining, has a triumphalist anti-white title:

    One Mighty and Irresistible Tide: The Epic Struggle Over American Immigration, 1924-1965
     
  14. The coronavirus pandemic has unleashed a torrent of anti-Asian racism in America that shows no signs of abating.

    Buckle up, Ms. Yang, you haven’t seen anything yet.

    And don’t try to use other Asians as your shield, the whole world knows it’s the Chinese that gifted the world the virus and forthcoming depression and we’re FURIOUS.

    • Agree: unit472
    • Disagree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Replies: @jbwilson24
    "And don’t try to use other Asians as your shield, the whole world knows it’s the Chinese that gifted the world the virus and forthcoming depression and we’re FURIOUS."

    Is that true, though?

    The virus, perhaps, but the depression seems to be the result of boneheaded western leaders who decided to deep six the economy (and allow the banks to receive boatloads of stimulus dollars).

    Even if I wanted to blame the Chinese for the virus, it isn't China keeping the North American population locked up at home. That's a policy choice, and a dodgy one.

  15. @miss marple
    Thanks. I'd forgotten to commit a hate crime against Asians for giving the coronavirus to the world. Now, how exactly do I go about this?

    Start by recognizing when a liar or con artist slips a completely unreasonable conflation into a larger statement. There never was any issue with “Asians” here. Nobody ever called it “the Asian virus” or demanded that “Asia” pay compensation for mishandling the outbreak.

  16. Welcome to The American Devolution.

  17. Going by youtube the incidents she mentions ostly involve Blacks.

    Meanwhile, from the land of pangolin eaters:

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    Well with watching! Thanks.
  18. anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos. But who can remember which nations were on which side in World War II?

    Maybe she found that Japanese-authored game, “Toss the China Baby on the Bayonet” game to be as exciting as the Japanese did. The Japs were great at that, I would surmise, because of lots and lots and lots of practice. Another popular game the Japs excelled at in Nanking was “Rape, Burn, Die.”

    The object of that game is to catch a Chinese girl, rape her as much as her vagina would permit, set her on fire, and then watch her die.

    The game was so… Samurai.

    Of course, Japanese folk resist bragging about it now, owing to Japanese humility, I’m supposing.

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck. I guess the same pluck required to use her substantial incisors to tear into a boiled batwing. That is, it must be a Chinese thing, us white people will never understand.

    Or maybe… some cultures are better than others. 🤔

    • Agree: Federalist
    • Replies: @Wilkey

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck.
     
    To assume that gratitude has any meaningful value for most people in this world is your first mistake. Most people will forget the things you’ve done for them, up to and including saving their lives, the moment they decide their interests conflict even slightly with yours, especially if they are of another race or ethnicity, but sometimes even if they are your own flesh and blood.

    And that’s before getting into the cultures, such as Islam, who deliberately use their enemy’s kindness as a weakness to exploit in order to conquer. Such cultures never felt any gratitude to begin with.
    , @jim jones
    Filipinos were hiding in the jungle while my father was flying a Spitfire in the RAF
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Maybe she found that Japanese-authored game, “Toss the China Baby on the Bayonet”
     
    Those weren't California's Japanese. These are California's Japanese, in the San Bruno camp, voting by absentee ballot, presumably, and rightfully, for Republicans:



    https://media.pri.org/s3fs-public/styles/story_main/public/story/images/voting-concentrationcamp.jpg?itok=PIYiJfzl
    , @syonredux
    Contest to kill 100 people using a sword

    The Contest to Kill 100 People Using A Sword (百人斬り競争, hyakunin-giri kyōsō) was a contest between Toshiaki Mukai and Tsuyoshi Noda, two Japanese Army officers, which took place during the Japanese invasion of China. The goal of the contest was to see who could kill 100 people the fastest while using a sword.
     

    In 1937, the Osaka Mainichi Shimbun and its sister newspaper, the Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shimbun covered a contest between two Japanese officers, Toshiaki Mukai (向井敏明) and Tsuyoshi Noda (野田毅), in which the two men were described as vying with one another to be the first to kill 100 people with a sword. The competition supposedly took place en route to Nanking, prior to the infamous Nanking Massacre, and was covered in four articles from November 30, 1937, to December 13, 1937; the last two being translated in the Japan Advertiser.
     

    Both officers supposedly surpassed their goal during the heat of battle, making it difficult to determine which officer had actually won the contest. Therefore (according to the journalists Asami Kazuo and Suzuki Jiro, writing in the Tokyo Nichi-Nichi Shimbun of December 13), they decided to begin another contest with the goal of 150 kills.[6] The Nichi Nichi headline of the story of December 13 read "'Incredible Record' [in the Contest to] Behead 100 People—Mukai 106 – 105 Noda—Both 2nd Lieutenants Go Into Extra Innings".
     

    Other soldiers and historians have noted the unlikelihood of the lieutenants' alleged heroics, which entailed killing enemy after enemy in fierce hand-to-hand combat.[4] Noda himself, on returning to his hometown, admitted this during a speech.
     

    "Actually, I didn't kill more than four or five people in hand-to-hand combat ... We'd face an enemy trench that we'd captured, and when we called out, "Ni, Lai-Lai!" (You, come here!), the Chinese soldiers were so stupid, they'd rush toward us all at once. Then we'd line them up and cut them down, from one end of the line to the other. I was praised for having killed a hundred people, but actually, almost all of them were killed in this way. The two of us did have a contest, but afterwards. I was often asked whether it was a big deal, and I said it was no big deal ..."[7]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest_to_kill_100_people_using_a_sword
    , @Jack Armstrong
    Please, remember your history:

    When the U.S. Marines reached Nanking, their brutality continued. They burned down the city’s walls, the people’s homes, the surrounding forests, and even whole villages situated in their path. They looted nearly every building they could find, stealing from the poor and the rich alike. They then slaughtered scores of people they happened upon. Some victims of the Nanking Massacre were thrown into mass, unmarked graves; others were just left to rot in the sun.

    To the invading marines, the Rape of Nanking was sometimes even a game. Life magazine bragged about a contest between two officers, Haven Monahan and Auggie Schmidt, who had challenged one another in a race to see who could slaughter 100 people with their Bowie knives first.
     

    There’s a reason the Chinese hate us.
  19. I’ve got one more Dr. Seuss-esque verse mocking ***** ******’s cowardice:

    ***** ****** is designate Cowid-19;
    18 other Cowids before him have been.
    Of all 19 Cowids, he is the most Cowidly;
    This fact I can state unequivicavowedly.

  20. @anon

    Jia Lynn Yang
     
    ?
    He/she/sir/them/they, need to go back to wherever they hell they/them came from.
    Easy.

    It

  21. The Chinese are still treated better in the US than Africans in China. That might change, of course. But you have to wonder if there’s an underlying problem with invasions masquerading as immigration.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @William Badwhite

    The Chinese are still treated better in the US than Africans in China. That might change, of course.
     
    We can only hope they're treated worse and made to feel unwelcome. Hopefully they'll leave. They have a country. A really big one. There's no reason for them to be here.
  22. @J.Ross
    But will Australian kick them out of the Australian government?
    https://twitter.com/KeiraSavage00/status/1249048005283426305

    What, they still have to worry about melamine in the baby formula?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Chinese in China do not trust Chinese food producers, period.
    , @Bill Jones
    "What, they still have to worry about melamine in the baby formula?"

    Rather better than worrying about the Melanin in the baby, I'd have thought.
  23. Oh man , the good old days ARE back , let’s party like it’s 1999 :!!:

  24. @BenKenobi
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWO7KnMVmh0

    Where did this man go? It hurts, bros....

    Yeah he should probably speak from a script more often.

  25. @anonymous

    The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos. But who can remember which nations were on which side in World War II?
     
    Maybe she found that Japanese-authored game, "Toss the China Baby on the Bayonet" game to be as exciting as the Japanese did. The Japs were great at that, I would surmise, because of lots and lots and lots of practice. Another popular game the Japs excelled at in Nanking was "Rape, Burn, Die."

    The object of that game is to catch a Chinese girl, rape her as much as her vagina would permit, set her on fire, and then watch her die.

    The game was so... Samurai.

    Of course, Japanese folk resist bragging about it now, owing to Japanese humility, I'm supposing.

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck. I guess the same pluck required to use her substantial incisors to tear into a boiled batwing. That is, it must be a Chinese thing, us white people will never understand.

    Or maybe... some cultures are better than others. 🤔

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck.

    To assume that gratitude has any meaningful value for most people in this world is your first mistake. Most people will forget the things you’ve done for them, up to and including saving their lives, the moment they decide their interests conflict even slightly with yours, especially if they are of another race or ethnicity, but sometimes even if they are your own flesh and blood.

    And that’s before getting into the cultures, such as Islam, who deliberately use their enemy’s kindness as a weakness to exploit in order to conquer. Such cultures never felt any gratitude to begin with.

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @Anon
    And that’s before getting into the cultures, such as Islam blacks, who deliberately use their enemy’s kindness as a weakness to exploit in order to conquer. Such cultures never felt any gratitude to begin with.
    , @Jack D
    I've often said that gratitude is something that you read about mostly in books and doesn't actually exist in real life (or only rarely). In fact, due to cognitive dissonance, people will tend to resent you if you help them. Being dependent on others is uncomfortable for most people so they will reconstruct reality such that they are not the objects of kindness but merely getting was is owed to them, or in fact LESS than they really deserve.
    , @fnn
    "If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man."- Mark Twain
  26. Everywhere the same story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_Zealand

    At the latest census in 2018, 70.2 percent identified as European, 16.5 percent as Māori, 15.1 percent as Asian, 8.1 percent as Pacific peoples, and 1.2 percent as Middle-Eastern, Latin American, and African (MELAA)

    ……………..

    The European grouping significantly decreased from 80.0 percent of the population in 2001 to 70.2 percent in 2013, and a likely cause of this is due to heightened immigration from Asia.
    …………………………
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand

    On 26 April 2005, he said: “Māori will be disturbed to know that in 17 years’ time they will be outnumbered by Asians in New Zealand” – an estimate disputed by Statistics New Zealand, the government’s statistics bureau. Peters quickly rebutted that Statistics New Zealand had underestimated the growth-rate of the Asian community in the past.[36]

    In April 2008, then deputy New Zealand First Party leader Peter Brown drew widespread attention after voicing similar views and expressing concern at the increase in New Zealand’s ethnic Asian population: “We are going to flood this country with Asian people with no idea what we are going to do with them when they come here.”[37] “The matter is serious. If we continue this open door policy there is real danger we will be inundated with people who have no intention of integrating into our society. The greater the number, the greater the risk. They will form their own mini-societies to the detriment of integration and that will lead to division, friction and resentment.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    The future is Asian and African. You can't outbreed them. Instead, their numbers have to be controlled because they are a pestilence upon the planet.

    As a stopgap measure, admission to our nations has to be severely curtailed, if not completely stopped. None of this is happening, though.
    , @ben tillman

    The European grouping significantly decreased from 80.0 percent of the population in 2001 to 70.2 percent in 2013, and a likely cause of this is due to heightened immigration from Asia.
     
    Wow -- that is a linguistic atrocity! Even worse is the soft-pedaling of the obvious. Immigration increases the number of non-natives. This is in doubt? What the fuck?
  27. Anonymous[186] • Disclaimer says:

    I… hate to point out an obvious flaw, but… the Chinese tend to be hella racist, enough so to make the most committed modern American Klansman blush, and they don’t care who knows it. For a Chinese woman to smear Americans by issuing that asinine charge, while ignoring the racist horror show in China is, like too much of Chinese culture, bizarre.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Coronavirus: Africans in China subjected to forced evictions, arbitrary quarantines and harassment

    https://www.france24.com/en/20200411-if-you-re-black-you-can-t-go-out-africans-in-china-face-racism-in-covid-19-crackdown

    , @Alden
    She’ll probably marry the tallest lightest White man she can find and all her friends and relatives will be jealous of her tall white skinned children. And if their hair is wavy instead of straight, she’ll be even happier.
  28. @ConfirmationBias
    This article is actually not hating on white people. The author talks about historical situations, and then says that current Asian Americans are being targeted during the coronavirus pandemic. I don’t see where the hatred is?

    current Asian Americans

    Yeah, ‘current’ asian American is correct, because you won’t be in America much longer. 🙂

    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
    Well, unless the forthcoming Latino majority in all our most populous States remove the Asians from California, Texas, and Florida, the Asians won’t be going anywhere. Keep dreaming. They’d be just as likely to remove US.

    Anyway, there are going to be several million white-Asian people in California, like my children, soon enough, and probably several million Hispanic/Asians as well.

  29. @Redneck farmer
    What, they still have to worry about melamine in the baby formula?

    Chinese in China do not trust Chinese food producers, period.

  30. On my first visit to the Philippines about 3 years ago, I toured various islands and cities, What was a great shock was how many monuments to Japanese atrocities I stumbled across, unintentionally and purely by accident.

    From the burning alive of 140 PoWs at Puerto Princesa, to the 100,00 dead memorialized in a small part in the Intramuros in Manila, to the forced labor who died digging the underground bunkers at the Japanese Army HQ in Baguio.

    Yet the Filipinos seemed to harbor little bitterness to the Japanese.

    What the HATE is the current presence and domineering attitude of the Chinese. They’ve bought off the Filipino elites with capital investment and the political class by the usual means. Their drug problem is literally manufactured in China. Shooting street dealers as is current policy is no solution.

    Yet there remains enormous goodwill toward America and Americans.

    What we need to do is check the Chinese takeover of the archipelago. Better US bases on the west side facing China than Chinese bases on the east coast of the Philippines, facing the US.

    • Thanks: Hail
  31. @anonymous

    The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos. But who can remember which nations were on which side in World War II?
     
    Maybe she found that Japanese-authored game, "Toss the China Baby on the Bayonet" game to be as exciting as the Japanese did. The Japs were great at that, I would surmise, because of lots and lots and lots of practice. Another popular game the Japs excelled at in Nanking was "Rape, Burn, Die."

    The object of that game is to catch a Chinese girl, rape her as much as her vagina would permit, set her on fire, and then watch her die.

    The game was so... Samurai.

    Of course, Japanese folk resist bragging about it now, owing to Japanese humility, I'm supposing.

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck. I guess the same pluck required to use her substantial incisors to tear into a boiled batwing. That is, it must be a Chinese thing, us white people will never understand.

    Or maybe... some cultures are better than others. 🤔

    Filipinos were hiding in the jungle while my father was flying a Spitfire in the RAF

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    My Filipino aunt left the Catholic Church and became a Baptist because the Baptists kept the faith even after the Japanese beheaded some of them at the top of a mountain and rolled the heads down the mountain as a warning to the others.
  32. The coronavirus pandemic has unleashed a torrent of anti-Asian racism in America that shows no signs of abating. Asian-Americans have been spat on in the streets, harassed and insulted.

    But is it true? Haven’t seen or heard of any Asian people being harassed, much less being “spat on in the streets”. What I see commonly is Asians spitting in the streets, but that’s another thing.

    Nearly 80 years ago, Japanese-Americans were forced from their homes into barren internment camps.

    So? Chinese as Yang should be happy, as many Chinese were enslaved or killed by the Japanese.
    Japanese, Chinese (and Koreans) hate each other on account of WWII. Not sure about Filipinos, though. Which side were they on?

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    But is it true? Haven’t seen or heard of any Asian people being harassed, much less being “spat on in the streets”. What I see commonly is Asians spitting in the streets, but that’s another thing.
     
    Right. "Is it true?" is a good question? Another good question is "So what?"
  33. Now that Asian women are taking the lead in the Hate Whitey movement (because it benefits them of course…and Asians do whatever is the most beneficial)

    Are there any white guys married to Asian women who have realized that their marriage…is exactly the same thing…Asian girls wipe out the white DNA and get your $$$

    I will never forget my dating days and how badly I was treated by white men with yellow fever…men hell-bent on creating some bizarre uber-race that would one day run amock over pure white kids…

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
    This is fascinating. Could you share with us the horrible treatment you received from white men who liked Asian women?
  34. Private export of baby formula from Australia is a huge business. It’s probably even more lucrative now that most students have kept out of the country so far this year, lessening competition between “buyers”.

    Unlike toilet paper etc which is clearly a temporary problem baby formula is permanently rationed product in Australia.

    https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-31/chinese-daigou-changing-influencing-australian-business/11221498?nw=0&pfmredir=sm

  35. Another invisible American pogrom… Boring.

  36. @nebulafox
    "One Mighty and Irresistible Tide."

    Note the wording here: implies that mass immigration is something inevitable, akin to a force of nature, rather than a policy choice.

    implies that mass immigration is something inevitable

    not implicitly, but explicitly stating that it is from ‘outside’ the USA, not a choice of the USA (the sandy beach of the analogy) but a thing that will overtake and cover the USA. Unless of course, the tide turns. We need another 1924-1965 period of restricted entry.

  37. “Refugees” thank Belgium for the free money and accommodation by destroying police cars. Maybe Corona-chan will respect duty where the French-speakers did not.

  38. PRC sent Canada medical equipment. It’s contaminated and unusable. Good thing there’s no, like, pattern here, or anything.

    A shipment of more than 100,000 testing swabs arrived in Ontario contaminated and unusable, the Star has learned, illustrating how even as the province strives to expand its COVID-19 lab-testing capacity it is still contending with global supply-chain havoc wrought by the pandemic.

    How much “global supply chain havoc” is China doing what everybody has non-controversially associated China with doing for decades now?

    https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2020/04/10/ontario-received-100000-contaminated-unusable-swabs-for-covid-19-tests.html

  39. The coronavirus pandemic has unleashed a torrent of anti-Asian racism in America that shows no signs of abating. Asian-Americans have been spat on in the streets, harassed and insulted.

    But who’s doing the spitting, harassing, and insulting?

  40. @Wilkey

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck.
     
    To assume that gratitude has any meaningful value for most people in this world is your first mistake. Most people will forget the things you’ve done for them, up to and including saving their lives, the moment they decide their interests conflict even slightly with yours, especially if they are of another race or ethnicity, but sometimes even if they are your own flesh and blood.

    And that’s before getting into the cultures, such as Islam, who deliberately use their enemy’s kindness as a weakness to exploit in order to conquer. Such cultures never felt any gratitude to begin with.

    And that’s before getting into the cultures, such as Islam blacks, who deliberately use their enemy’s kindness as a weakness to exploit in order to conquer. Such cultures never felt any gratitude to begin with.

  41. The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos.

    Who says our schools aren’t teaching anything? They’ve drummed Diversity into people’s heads to the point that ancient rivalries become secondary to the newly instilled resentment against Americans. In America, Hutus and Tutsis can unite at last.

    • LOL: Hibernian
  42. Genetically, Japanese, Koreans, and Chinese are the same. So non-chinese will be mistaken for Chinese, just like how non-muslim Sikhs were assaulted and killed after 9/11.

    And even then, the average Chinese person didn’t cause the virus, just like the average Muslim did not cause 9/11, or the average Saudi.

    If Trump were smarter he would say the Chinese communist party virus. China Hawks always distinguish between the Chinese people who need to be liberated from the government.

    But Trump is dumb. And that might offend his friend Xi Jinping who he knows personally.

    So he went with Chinese virus which results in innocent average Asians getting the backlash and not the CCP who are responsible.

  43. America is a great country.

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans. This flares up periodically in the form of anti-Japanese boycotts, smashing Japanese businesses, etc. but even when it’s not flaring it’s a continuing undercurrent of seething hatred and bad memories. The Koreans bring up the subject of reparations for the “comfort women” (Korean women allegedly forced into prostitution by the Japanese military) at every opportunity even though they are down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.

    But in the US, Japanese are just fellow Asians and Chinese-Americans and Korean-Americans can use Japanese internment 80 years ago as evidence of current anti-Asian prejudice by Americans and a stick with which to beat whitey. And as Steve says, never mind that American Chinese and Filipinos were among the most enthusiastic endorsers of the idea of interning Japanese enemies at the time.

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and their atrocities in Nanking and elsewhere was that this was accompanied by a great outpouring of love and assistance for our (then non-Communist) brave Chinese allies and Chinese were portrayed very positively in American popular culture at that time. But forget that part, what about the “internment of Asian-Americans”?

    • Replies: @Bucky
    I suspect most Japan hatred in Asia is opportunistic and envy.

    For Koreans, it is a "little brother" syndrome where they are envious and want to be like the Japanese.

    For the Chinese, they amped up hatred of Japan after Tienanmen square. The Japanese were a useful target for nationalistic ire so that the CCP could stay ruling in place.
    , @J.Ross
    East Asians hate each other as a default. They hate Japan because Japan is successful. As far as there being some schedule of actions Japan could ever undertake with sufficient humiliation that China would be satisfied, and would no longer base their entire current ideological cosmos on a cheap Holocaust knockoff with Japan as The Dev Ull, short answer [laughter] no. The Chinese case against Japan is not a legitimate grievance based on reality, it is an emotional tribal negotiating ploy.
    , @BenKenobi

    down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.
     
    This reminds me of something but I can't quite put my finger on it...
    , @Johann Ricke

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans.
     
    Not because of their Nazi-like behavior, which was anything but Nazi-like. The Japanese slaughtered rebels and attempted to turn non-rebels into Japanese, using pacification tactics familiar to the Greeks and Romans from antiquity. The reason they hate the Japanese is because the Japanese lost. It's exactly the same reason that the Vietnamese hate the Chinese. If the Japanese had won, the Japan-haters in the Far East would all be Japanese today, and the Japanese empire in East Asia would incorporate exactly the varying hues of people who currently live there, with perhaps a bigger admixture from the darker hues in metropolitan Japan, and the lighter hues outside of metropolitan Japan. Whereas if the Germans had won, the entire Jewish and Slavic populations of the countries they conquered would be extinct, having been exterminated in their entirety.
    , @ben tillman

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor . . . .
     
    Do you consider their surprise attack more or less dastardly than FDR's decision to maximize the deaths and destruction at Pearl Harbor by sending false "intelligence"?
    , @Oscar Peterson

    "Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans."
     
    No.

    The only Asian countries that are fundamentally hostile to Japan are China and the two Koreas. Southeast Asian countries--yes, ones they invaded in WW II--actually have overall quite positive attitudes towards Japan, even more positive, perhaps surprisingly, than South Asia, which Japan never succeeded in conquering. I don't think Central Asians and Middle Easterners have strong feelings one way or another.

    Aside from China and Korea, most Asians are not fixated on the question of Japan taking responsibility for WW II, or they feel that Japan has done enough in that regard.

  44. What’s the chance of the Chinese, Japanese, Koreans and Vietnamese not loathing each other?
    All are more welcome in America then they would be in each other countries.

  45. @Jack D
    America is a great country.

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans. This flares up periodically in the form of anti-Japanese boycotts, smashing Japanese businesses, etc. but even when it's not flaring it's a continuing undercurrent of seething hatred and bad memories. The Koreans bring up the subject of reparations for the "comfort women" (Korean women allegedly forced into prostitution by the Japanese military) at every opportunity even though they are down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.

    But in the US, Japanese are just fellow Asians and Chinese-Americans and Korean-Americans can use Japanese internment 80 years ago as evidence of current anti-Asian prejudice by Americans and a stick with which to beat whitey. And as Steve says, never mind that American Chinese and Filipinos were among the most enthusiastic endorsers of the idea of interning Japanese enemies at the time.

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and their atrocities in Nanking and elsewhere was that this was accompanied by a great outpouring of love and assistance for our (then non-Communist) brave Chinese allies and Chinese were portrayed very positively in American popular culture at that time. But forget that part, what about the "internment of Asian-Americans"?

    I suspect most Japan hatred in Asia is opportunistic and envy.

    For Koreans, it is a “little brother” syndrome where they are envious and want to be like the Japanese.

    For the Chinese, they amped up hatred of Japan after Tienanmen square. The Japanese were a useful target for nationalistic ire so that the CCP could stay ruling in place.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson

    For Koreans, it is a “little brother” syndrome where they are envious and want to be like the Japanese.

     

    Hatred of one people for another doesn't come from something as banal as being "little brother."

    The Japanese invaded and colonized Korea twice, once very destructively at the end of the 16th century and then again in the 20th century. It's true that the legacy of the modern conquest is mixed. The Japanese began the industrialization and modernization of Korea. But that doesn't compensate for (1) being subjugated and used by Japan, (2) the second-class status of the large Korean population in Japan, and (3) the humiliation connected to the "comfort women" issue.

    It ain't just "little brother" syndrome, and it's been a constant stumbling block for the US attempt to weld Japan and South Korea into an anti-China alliance.

    It's true that the PRC's use and promotion of anti-Japanese sentiment is often cynical. When the Japanese PM apologized to Chou en Lai in 1972 for Japanese behavior in China during WW II, Chou supposedly replied something to the effect of "It's OK, your invasion help the CCP to come to power." The environment has certainly changed since then.

    But let's be realistic. If there weren't a significant existing basis of anti-Japanese sentiment in China, the government wouldn't be able to amp it up at need. The more powerful China becomes, the more Chinese are inclined to dwell on those who have wronged them (including the West but especially Japan) and see vengeance as a realistic option.
  46. Meanwhile, back on the World’s Only News Story,

    This is not satire.

    https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/live/tori-51750354

    The Wu Flu is being heralded as a wonder cure in London. It’s been 6 weeks since anybody has died of a heart attack.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    Here's the missing link.
    https://humansarefree.com/2020/04/if-you-get-hit-by-a-car-and-die-you-may-be-recorded-as-a-covid-19-death.html
  47. @Anonymous
    America is anti-Asian, so why is Jia in America paying taxes to support the imperialist US government that aids Zionist tyranny over Palestinians?

    The reason why US is anti-Asian is simple. Every nation needs some enemy. Due to PC taboo, Americans can't say anything about the three most destructive groups: Jews, blacks, homos.

    So, they dump all their rage on approved targets like Russia, Iran, and Asia.

    But Jia's ilk betrayed their own people by choosing to live in the Imperialist Metropole of the world.

    Why so surprised that the US is the way it is? It was founded om imperialism and genocide. And as if the great land and resources weren't enough, US had to take over Asian Pacific, destroy Palestine, and in 20 yrs wreck Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, and wage new wars or sanctions on Russia and Iran. Hypocrisy and arrogance are baked into the American character.
    If Jia chose to live in such an imperialist metrople and write for NYT that supports Zionist tyranny, what utterl lack of self-awareness.

    Except this is false. Americans are not “anti-Asian” to begin with. We have nothing but love for our friends from Korea, Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam, etc. We have no problems with Chinese when they are democracy supporters in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore. The only ones we have any ill feelings for are the rude Chinese Communists who have brought about a worldwide epidemic through their actions and who have been doing their best to undercut American interests in multiple ways. So naturally there is push back against their aggression. Generally speaking, Americans are nice to people who are nice to us and not so nice to people who try to harm us.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Except this is false. Americans are not “anti-Semitic to begin with. We have nothing but love for our Jewish neighbors from Los Angeles, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. We have no problems with Jews when they are democracy supporters in the Soviet Union, Cuba, and East Germany. The only ones we have any ill feelings for are the rude Jews who have undermined governments in Alabama and Mississippi through their actions and who have been doing their best to undercut American interests in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Iran in multiple ways. So naturally there is push back against their aggression. Generally speaking, Americans are nice to people who are nice to us and not so nice to people who try to harm us.

    Lol. Get out of here Jack.
  48. Just not buying it. If you blame Asian-Americans for the virus would you really get close enough to assault, berate or spit on them? No, I’d keep my hate-filled racist hands safely to myself. Unless all these supremacist thugs are walking around in full hazmat gear under their MAGA hats

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    People who do that kind of thing are generally not geniuses.
  49. @Bill Jones
    Meanwhile, back on the World's Only News Story,

    This is not satire.

    https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/live/tori-51750354

    The Wu Flu is being heralded as a wonder cure in London. It's been 6 weeks since anybody has died of a heart attack.
  50. I’m not angry at the Chinese take-out a couple of blocks away but I don’t need to hear from some mouthpiece of the Chinese Communist Party attempting to deflect the worlds attention away from that regimes criminal spread of a deadly pathogen.

    Its not about ‘Asians’. Korea, Japan,Vietnam, Thailand, Taiwan, Singapore even Hong Kong have all been victimized by the commie thugs in Beijing and the best way for the Chinese people to apologize to the world for that regimes hideous crime is to overthrow those tyrants and install a decent government for the world’s largest country.

  51. Canada rounded up Japanese and put them in internment camps also. I never see this when someone writes about what the US did.

    • Replies: @Foreign Expert
    So did Brazil and New Caledonia.
  52. @Mr McKenna

    Asian-Americans have been spat on in the streets, harassed and insulted.
     
    Insulted, you say? Is nothing sacred? Hey, I've been spat on and much, much worse on the streets of New York City--as well as attacked in my home and my place of business--for no crime other than being white. And there are vastly more of us with stories like mine than there are of you. Yet you never, ever hear our stories in the mass media. Why would that be?

    Even children have been attacked as our fellow citizens blame us for a virus that threatens our families no less than any other household.
     
    Funny you should mention. Here's Tucker last night, regarding Wuhan.

    Here’s the mystery: The Chinese government allowed 5 million residents to flee the city before they locked it down in January. Most of them presumably went to other places in China. And yet, according to the Chinese – as well as all available evidence we now have in the West – there were no other major outbreaks in China. Not in Shanghai, not in Chengdu, not in Beijing.

    Meanwhile, other cities all over Europe and the United States have been brought to their knees by the virus. How could this be? It doesn’t seem to make any sense at all.

    For some reason, almost no one in the American media has even asked about it. That’s strange. At this point, we have no real explanation for why the coronavirus spread throughout the West, but not throughout China. We should find out.
     

    Allow me to add a paranoid footnote to Tucker’s question — of course from my vast annals of classic TV trivia.

    In a 1966 Mission Impossible the Russians are training an elite corps of spies to look, sound and act like typical Americans, to fit in here, mingle widely and await further instructions. What these plants don’t know is that just before arrival they’re going to be dosed with the plague, to unwittingly spread across the US

  53. @jimmyriddle
    Going by youtube the incidents she mentions ostly involve Blacks.

    Meanwhile, from the land of pangolin eaters:


    https://twitter.com/BlackLivityCN/status/1247164586421256192

    Well with watching! Thanks.

  54. Who wants to bet that Jia has a white boyfriend/husband? All these asian wamens are social signalling/status competition rhetorical anti-white, but are getting white dick at home.

  55. “The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos. But who can remember which nations were on which side in World War II?”

    Please Steve, let’s not bicker and argue about who killed who.

  56. @Jack D
    America is a great country.

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans. This flares up periodically in the form of anti-Japanese boycotts, smashing Japanese businesses, etc. but even when it's not flaring it's a continuing undercurrent of seething hatred and bad memories. The Koreans bring up the subject of reparations for the "comfort women" (Korean women allegedly forced into prostitution by the Japanese military) at every opportunity even though they are down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.

    But in the US, Japanese are just fellow Asians and Chinese-Americans and Korean-Americans can use Japanese internment 80 years ago as evidence of current anti-Asian prejudice by Americans and a stick with which to beat whitey. And as Steve says, never mind that American Chinese and Filipinos were among the most enthusiastic endorsers of the idea of interning Japanese enemies at the time.

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and their atrocities in Nanking and elsewhere was that this was accompanied by a great outpouring of love and assistance for our (then non-Communist) brave Chinese allies and Chinese were portrayed very positively in American popular culture at that time. But forget that part, what about the "internment of Asian-Americans"?

    East Asians hate each other as a default. They hate Japan because Japan is successful. As far as there being some schedule of actions Japan could ever undertake with sufficient humiliation that China would be satisfied, and would no longer base their entire current ideological cosmos on a cheap Holocaust knockoff with Japan as The Dev Ull, short answer [laughter] no. The Chinese case against Japan is not a legitimate grievance based on reality, it is an emotional tribal negotiating ploy.

    • Disagree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    " a cheap Holocaust knockoff with Japan as The Dev Ull"

    The actions of the Japanese in China before WW2, and during WW2 in Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Sumatra, Java etc were disgraceful.
  57. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    China doesn’t take mass immigration from anywhere else and certainly not of non-Chinese. But people like this will never criticize China but feel comfortable in spitting on the country that’s enabled them to make a name for themselves. But how representative of Asians is this person? The NYT scouts out the ones who’ll critique the US via the usual racial grievance route. The NYT is not run by Asians. They use their media platform to bring us one malcontent after another, attacking the mass of Americans. Without the sponsorship and promotion of media such as NYT we’d never hear of these characters.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  58. @Redneck farmer
    What, they still have to worry about melamine in the baby formula?

    “What, they still have to worry about melamine in the baby formula?”

    Rather better than worrying about the Melanin in the baby, I’d have thought.

    • Thanks: nokangaroos
    • LOL: fish
  59. @Wilkey

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck.
     
    To assume that gratitude has any meaningful value for most people in this world is your first mistake. Most people will forget the things you’ve done for them, up to and including saving their lives, the moment they decide their interests conflict even slightly with yours, especially if they are of another race or ethnicity, but sometimes even if they are your own flesh and blood.

    And that’s before getting into the cultures, such as Islam, who deliberately use their enemy’s kindness as a weakness to exploit in order to conquer. Such cultures never felt any gratitude to begin with.

    I’ve often said that gratitude is something that you read about mostly in books and doesn’t actually exist in real life (or only rarely). In fact, due to cognitive dissonance, people will tend to resent you if you help them. Being dependent on others is uncomfortable for most people so they will reconstruct reality such that they are not the objects of kindness but merely getting was is owed to them, or in fact LESS than they really deserve.

    • Agree: Haole
    • Replies: @Anon


    Locke’s father was part of the Normandy invasion, then was ordered along with the rest of the Fifth Armored Division to the Battle of the Bulge.

    In other words: Locke is not a Chinese official, as the Trump campaign made him out to be, apparently because of the way he looks and because he was standing next to a Chinese flag.
     
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/trumps-attacks-gary-locke/609844/

    COLLEGE PARK, Md. — At least 12 white supremacists have been arrested on allegations of plotting, threatening or carrying out anti-Semitic attacks in the U.S. since the massacre at a Pittsburgh synagogue nearly one year ago, a Jewish civil rights group reported Sunday.

    The Anti-Defamation League also counted at least 50 incidents in which white supremacists are accused of targeting Jewish institutions’ property since a gunman killed 11 worshippers at the Tree of Life synagogue on Oct. 27, 2018. Those incidents include 12 cases of vandalism involving white supremacist symbols and 35 cases in which white supremacist propaganda was distributed.
     
    Yes maybe you are right.
    , @Moses

    In fact, due to cognitive dissonance, people will tend to resent you if you help them. Being dependent on others is uncomfortable for most people so they will reconstruct reality such that they are not the objects of kindness but merely getting was is owed to them, or in fact LESS than they really deserve.
     
    Jack usually I have a different view from you. But you really nailed it here.
  60. @Change that Matters
    The Chinese are still treated better in the US than Africans in China. That might change, of course. But you have to wonder if there's an underlying problem with invasions masquerading as immigration.

    The Chinese are still treated better in the US than Africans in China. That might change, of course.

    We can only hope they’re treated worse and made to feel unwelcome. Hopefully they’ll leave. They have a country. A really big one. There’s no reason for them to be here.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  61. • Replies: @MBlanc46
    I’m just finishing the third volume of the official US Army history of the China-Burma-India Theater. The notion that the Chinese people rose up as one to fight the Japs, uh, err, Japanese, is ludicrous. Chiang Kai-shek didn’t want to fight them at all. He wanted the US to fight them for him. With air power, because he didn’t want a lot if Americans in China. All the while, we were to be loading him up with arms so that, after we’d kicked out the, umm, Japanese, for him, he could defeat the Reds. As horrid as the Commies gave been for seventy years, Chiang deserved to have his @ss kicked out of China.
  62. @miss marple
    Thanks. I'd forgotten to commit a hate crime against Asians for giving the coronavirus to the world. Now, how exactly do I go about this?

    Surely you already know the answer to this question, dear Miss Marple. You don’t have to do anything but exist. That will be sufficient. No doubt the famous “sumdood” will take up your cause and slice up some Asian on your behalf. Should the Stasi-Polizei – always willing to obey any order from the ADL central command – catch him, his relatives will be there on the Mockingbird Media to tell us that Mr. Sumdood is innocent because his real moniker is Dindu Nuffins. It’s your fault in any case, because (((they))) say so.

    In the world of the blind, the one-eyed man is king.

    • Agree: bomag
  63. Anon[544] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    I've often said that gratitude is something that you read about mostly in books and doesn't actually exist in real life (or only rarely). In fact, due to cognitive dissonance, people will tend to resent you if you help them. Being dependent on others is uncomfortable for most people so they will reconstruct reality such that they are not the objects of kindness but merely getting was is owed to them, or in fact LESS than they really deserve.

    Locke’s father was part of the Normandy invasion, then was ordered along with the rest of the Fifth Armored Division to the Battle of the Bulge.

    In other words: Locke is not a Chinese official, as the Trump campaign made him out to be, apparently because of the way he looks and because he was standing next to a Chinese flag.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/04/trumps-attacks-gary-locke/609844/

    COLLEGE PARK, Md. — At least 12 white supremacists have been arrested on allegations of plotting, threatening or carrying out anti-Semitic attacks in the U.S. since the massacre at a Pittsburgh synagogue nearly one year ago, a Jewish civil rights group reported Sunday.

    The Anti-Defamation League also counted at least 50 incidents in which white supremacists are accused of targeting Jewish institutions’ property since a gunman killed 11 worshippers at the Tree of Life synagogue on Oct. 27, 2018. Those incidents include 12 cases of vandalism involving white supremacist symbols and 35 cases in which white supremacist propaganda was distributed.

    Yes maybe you are right.

  64. @Mr McKenna
    https://www.superdickery.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/97_4_0000058.jpg

    J/K, Japs are pretty blameless this time ;)

    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks. Oh wait, Jewish Bolsheviks wrote and drew those comics. Never mind.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks. Oh wait, Jewish Bolsheviks wrote and drew those comics. Never mind.

     

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M5z81qz0vt0/UYdZDbaLIVI/AAAAAAAAKm4/Rs66sXMw3Y4/s1600/Captain+America+couverture+001.jpg

    http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/captain-america/76-2.jpg


    http://goldenagecomics.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/CA_77.jpg
    , @anonymous
    With all due respect, that is probably the biggest whopper I have ever seen on this blog. Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, the creators and initial producers of Captain America, both served honorably in the U.S. military in WW II.
    Joe, in particular, was a lifelong Republican and, although Jewish by heritage, he was not a religious man. Far from it.
    To say that someone who regarded George W. Bush as a liberal wimp was a "Bolshevik" is just delusional.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks.
     
    Why would he beat up his boss?


    https://providencemag.com/wp-content/uploads/Stalin_Roosevelt_Churchill_at_Tehran-e1488318128689.jpg

  65. Putting on my detective cap for this one and claiming that China is more likely the VICTIM and not the PERPETRATOR. My guess is the most LIKELY perpetrator is? Take a guess?

  66. @Anonymous
    America is anti-Asian, so why is Jia in America paying taxes to support the imperialist US government that aids Zionist tyranny over Palestinians?

    The reason why US is anti-Asian is simple. Every nation needs some enemy. Due to PC taboo, Americans can't say anything about the three most destructive groups: Jews, blacks, homos.

    So, they dump all their rage on approved targets like Russia, Iran, and Asia.

    But Jia's ilk betrayed their own people by choosing to live in the Imperialist Metropole of the world.

    Why so surprised that the US is the way it is? It was founded om imperialism and genocide. And as if the great land and resources weren't enough, US had to take over Asian Pacific, destroy Palestine, and in 20 yrs wreck Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, and wage new wars or sanctions on Russia and Iran. Hypocrisy and arrogance are baked into the American character.
    If Jia chose to live in such an imperialist metrople and write for NYT that supports Zionist tyranny, what utterl lack of self-awareness.

    I think you’re missing an important point. People like Jia do not consider themselves to be merely living in an imperialist metropole. They are here with the intent of colonizing the imperialist metropole, replacing the imperialist inhabitants, and terraforming it into a society that fits them and works for their benefit. They aren’t (((alone))) in this enterprise and they are almost certainly going to succeed. You are like an Iroquois asking himself why all these White people would want to sail all the way across the Great Water to live in a continent that is wilderness and populated with Indians.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    1492 EUROPEANS: Ahhh, just look at this fresh, virgin expanse of territory just waiting to be exploited. The only thing standing in our way are a bunch of Stone Age primitives, and we shall sweep them away with ease.

    1870 ASHKENAZIM: Ahh, just look at this rich, already fully developed and built-up expanse of territory just waiting to be exploited. They did all the work for us! The only thing standing in our way are a bunch of cloddish, stupid goyim, and we shall swindle and enslave them with ease.

    2020 HAN: Ahh, just look at this rich, highly exploitable pre-fabricated extension of China, just waiting to be filled with humans, meaning us. The only thing standing in our way is a bunch of smug, arrogant Jews and their white, black and brown debt-slaves. But because we do not believe in their guilt-trip fairy stories, we shall sweep them away with ease.

    4179 CTHULHU: Ahh, just look at this charred, blackened wasteland, just perfect for a summer getaway home...
    , @Anonymous

    People like Jia do not consider themselves to be merely living in an imperialist metropole. They are here with the intent of colonizing the imperialist metropole, replacing the imperialist inhabitants, and terraforming it into a society that fits them and works for their benefit.
     
    No, East Asians have a planetary mindset. Wherever they go, they revolve around and serve what is most powerful and prestigious. So, while Chinese in China may into the China as Middle Kingdom, Chinese outside China could be totally servile to and revolve around whatever happens to be most prestigious and powerful.

    This is where East Asians are different from Jews who have a solar mindset. No matter how small in number, poor, weak, and starting out in a new place, they see themselves as the center of the universe around whom all of humanity must revolve. For the Chinese, the concept of Middle Kingdom is connected to the land. They are the Big Boss in China. Outside China, they look to serve the New Big Boss. In contrast, whether in Tel Aviv, New York, Los Angeles, London, Paris, Moscow, or etc. Jews feel humanity must revolve around and serve them.

    In Southeast Asia, Chinese maintain their Chinese-ness because they have little respect for the natives who are lower in IQ and achievement. But look at Chinese(and other East Asians) in the West, and they suck up to the power in a servile way. It may true that Chinese immigrants still have some sense of link to the old country, but the young ones almost completely lose their identity in no time. Same with Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, and etc. Or look at pathetic Hong Kong. Chinese people who've grown so used to being part of the great Western Empire that they wave the US flag during protests.

    Consider some of the prominent East Asian-American thinkers. Francis Fukuyama is of Japanese ancestry but a total toady to globalism and Zionism. While Jews in US do everything to serve Israel's power, survival, and interests, Fukuyama as emissary of his Jewish Masters goes to Japan and other Asian countries and urges mass immigration, globo-homo, and deracination. Japan has frighteningly low birth rates. A Japanese-American who cares about survival of Japan might look to Israel and Hungary as examples of sound and effective natal policy, but Fukuyama just serves his masters and calls for More Diversity for Japan, something Jews would NEVER do with Israel. Or take Amy Chua. She is married to a Jew and raising Jewish kids whose main loyalty is to Zion.

    The only three people with a kind of solar-centric view of themselves are now Jews, Hindus, and blacks. Jews because of their Covenant tradition. Hindus because of their own kind of ethno-religion. (Christianity is universalist, therefore undermines identity. Confucianism is ancestral and loses its meaning and pull in the modern world of nuclear families and/or atomized individualism.) And blacks think they be 'badass', so everyone should carry their jockstraps.
    Whites used to have a solar-centric view based on Christianity, Reason, and Race. There was a time when Christianity was almost synonymous with white power. But as it spread to non-whites all over, it is no longer particularly white. Reason also used to be the basis of white pride and power as the West pioneered rationalism and science in contrast to the Rest that was mired in customs, mysticism, and superstition. But as Reason(and even democracy) spread all over the world, it is no longer particularly white either. There was the element of Race, the view that whites are special as a people. But as 'racism' became the biggest sin in the West, it is NOT okay to be white.
    So now, both whites and East Asians in the West have planetary identities that revolve around those with Solar Will(though Hindus don't count yet in terms of power and prestige). So, in a way, the white dumping on Asians is a clash of planets. Whites, as they revere and serve the Jewish Sun, dare not speak against Jewish Power even though much of the white plight can be traced to Jewish Power. But you don't blame god or the sun. Suppose this virus came out of Israel. Would Trump and his followers be calling it the Jewish, Zionist, or Israeli flu or virus? Of course not. Do 'conservatives' have the guts to refer to HIV as Africa or Homo disease? No. They don't even have the courage and honesty to call Iraq War, Libya War, Syrian War, and etc by their proper name: "Wars for Israel".

    So, while criticism of how China handled this disease in the early stage is warranted -- and its possible link to wet markets and lack of food inspection in China -- , the way it's been done is a really a show of cowardice than courage. It's like Trump dumping on Muslims and Mexicans in 2016 while never mentioning that Jewish Power is the #1 force of Open Borders in EU and the US. It's like Trump calling Mexicans 'rapists' when the biggest rapists are blacks. Also, Jewish Power has been derailing his Presidency forever, even getting him impeached, but he is still in Syria and has Soleimani killed. And his minions cheer. And there is Tucker who calls China evil for its ethno-nationalism but in the next breath praises Israel for its national, border, and security policies.

    Also, people like Jia don't understand that this is about Power, not right or wrong. After WWII and especially after the end of the C0ld War, the US has gotten used to being the Lone Superpower. Indeed, even more so because Jewish Power now governs the US. Why does this matter? If US hadn't become so obeisant to Jewish Power and Israel, its sense of national interest would be focused on America itself. This was the case with men like Charles Lindbergh and the 'Arabists' who were once influential in US foreign policy. These people(who were both 'left' and 'right') were essentially post-imperialist and believed the US should focus on American issues. Therefore, the US should deal with the world pragmatically to pursue what is best for America. So, America should try to come to terms with any nation to live in peace and to trade. If such people were in power, there would be no need for antagonism with Iran or Russia. Just trade with them and get along. Anglo-Americans who once ruled America has no stake in Russia, Iran, or etc. They just had business interests around the world that could be accommodated through diplomacy.
    For such people, a multi-polar world is tolerable AS LONG AS Americans pursue American Interests in America. In contrast, Jews have direct stakes all over the world. They've gained key power in every Western European nation and many Eastern European nations. Especially with the creation of Israel, Jews are very mindful of power balance in North Africa and Middle East. Anglos never regarded Russia as part of their empire. Anglos were sometimes at odds with Russia but never thought to take it over. In contrast, Jews do want to takeover Russia, Poland, Hungary, Germany, France, and etc as globalist elites, which is why they promote globo-homo to use homos in every nation as their well-paid proxies. So, unlike Anglos who wanted to come to terms with and trade with other nations, Jews want to take over and control other nations. If not for Jewish Power in the US, would America be bitterly upset that Russia said NO to globo-homo? Because Jews rule the US and because Jews want it their way in Russia, Poland, Hungary, and MENA, they believe the US must be the lone superpower that isn't challenged by any nation in any part of the world. So, Russia has to be provoked and pressured in Ukraine of all places, a nation that is so close and vital to Russia but has NO rational purpose to the US. In 25 yrs, it will be a 100 yr anniversary of the end of WWII, but incredibly, the US military is still in Japan, South Korea, and encircling China from all sides. (And yet, China is the big bad aggressor.)

    It's understandable why people like Jia(and others all over the world) came to the US. Cleaner air, less repression, more individual freedom, and as yet, less corruption than in places in China, India etc. But they need to understand that the US, as vessel of Jewish supremacism, is the #1 force of evil in the world in terms of cultural pollution, neo-imperialism, near-genocidal policies in Middle East, utmost hypocrisy, and total amnesia. That's what they are serving.
    As for the NYT and its supposed 'liberal' Jews, they are the worst. On the one hand, Jewish Power has inflamed 'yellow peril' fears in movies, TV shows, and etc. Jewish-controlled Media ran with China-Dragon-Rising stories endlessly. And yet, these same Jews also play the Nice Guy and hug Asians as poor victims and bullies of Big Bad Trump. Jews did the same with Muslims. Hollywood made all these Muslims-are-terrorist movies over decades, but all of a sudden, they were best friends with Muslims against Trump and those 'Islamophobes', all the while pressuring Trump to remain in Syria and wreak more havoc against Arabs who defy Zionist Power.
    Anglos handed over their power to Jewish globalists. White Consciousness today is nothing but "how to appease Jews". Whites are surely upset about trends going against them, but one doesn't challenge one's Master. Even when a dog is beaten by its master, its wish is to win his approval. Whites are beaten most by Jews, but as Jews are the Master, whites cannot bark truth to the Master. So, what do whites do? They cozy up to the Master ever more in shows of rage and animus at targets that they believe will please the master. If the master kicks you, go hunt a rabbit and drop it at the master's feet in hope of approval. This is what Trump does. Whipped by Jews from day one, he goes hunting for Iran to win approval from Zionists. Tormented by Jews endlessly, he says troops will remain in Iraq and steal oil. Impeached by Democrats funded by Jews, the dog Trump bags Soleimani. Vilified by Jews, he signs legislation to shut down BDS. In this, he's no different than John McCain. Given what the Jewish media did to him in 2008, you'd think McCain would have grown a pair. But no, to his dying day, he was growling at Russia, Iran, Syria, and Trump to win approval from his Master.

    This is America, and this is why people like Jia are stupid to think justice and fairness are possible in a nation where a Christian baker is now being sued for... not baking a Tranny Transition Cake.
    Of course, as a 'good liberal' and mental minion of Jewish 'liberals', I'm sure Jia is on the globo-homo bandwagon and screaming 'Bake the Cake Bigot'. Ironically, even as Jia condemns American bigotry, Jia has something in common with Americans: The cowardly unwillingness to name the main culprit of why the US became such an evil force in the world: Jewish supremacist power.

    https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1249108040806207489
  67. @Mr McKenna

    Asian-Americans have been spat on in the streets, harassed and insulted.
     
    Insulted, you say? Is nothing sacred? Hey, I've been spat on and much, much worse on the streets of New York City--as well as attacked in my home and my place of business--for no crime other than being white. And there are vastly more of us with stories like mine than there are of you. Yet you never, ever hear our stories in the mass media. Why would that be?

    Even children have been attacked as our fellow citizens blame us for a virus that threatens our families no less than any other household.
     
    Funny you should mention. Here's Tucker last night, regarding Wuhan.

    Here’s the mystery: The Chinese government allowed 5 million residents to flee the city before they locked it down in January. Most of them presumably went to other places in China. And yet, according to the Chinese – as well as all available evidence we now have in the West – there were no other major outbreaks in China. Not in Shanghai, not in Chengdu, not in Beijing.

    Meanwhile, other cities all over Europe and the United States have been brought to their knees by the virus. How could this be? It doesn’t seem to make any sense at all.

    For some reason, almost no one in the American media has even asked about it. That’s strange. At this point, we have no real explanation for why the coronavirus spread throughout the West, but not throughout China. We should find out.
     

    “ The Chinese government allowed 5 million residents to flee the city before they locked it down in January. ”

    The 5 million number I have repeated myself because it came from a credible local Wuhan government source and repeated in newspapers.

    It doesn’t appear to be correct however, and it seems suspicious given Wuhan’s population is 11 million. The AEI notes the total of all flights out of Wuhan in the prior 3 weeks had 400,000 people. Trains and cars also move people out of course, but some of those were people simply going through Wuhan or returning home after a short visit. And between poverty and lack of parking, I doubt most Wuhaners have cars.

    AEI thinks the better estimate is a little over a million fled Wuhan before the lockdown. That just makes a lot more sense, hard to imagine nearly half a major city’s population leaving in such a short time, even in a mass panic.

    I mention this because I love Tucker and don’t like seeing him make a mistake.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    Perhaps the 5 million number was meant to include travelers who visited or passed through Wuhan while the virus was raging. Not sure. But I agree, 40% of the permanent residents leaving a city the size of NYC hardly seems plausible.
  68. Anon[455] • Disclaimer says:

    People want to feel better than someone else, not the lowest rung on the ladder.

    The media forbades you from criticizing any group, except one: white people.

    Everybody can criticize white people. Everybody is better than white people. Its enforced by the media/academia/human resource policy/legal edicts.

    The only way I see out of this situation is targeted media buys by fair-minded groups of all races that will constantly mock and troll anti-white adherents and corporations to scorn.

    #scapegoat-nobody-we-are-all-in-this-boat-together.

  69. Just logged in to wish all a Happy and Safe Easter. Good day to be nice and kind.

    • Disagree: Jack Armstrong
    • Thanks: Paleo Liberal
    • Replies: @Hail
    Easter is the greatest of our holidays. I can think of no more beautiful message than Easter's, of the Resurrection.

    Google has bowed to pro-Easter public pressure and is running, today, its most ambitious Easter celebration to date:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVa1QVTWAAcSiwd.jpg

    (See also, "Google Celebrates Easter," April 2015, iSteve.) (See also, Google's bold Easter doodles in 2013 and 2014.)
    , @Reg Cæsar
    Fr Coutts in Toronto likens this particular and unique Easter to the first:


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkBtW-qAoxw&t=10m35s




    How was Easter handled during the plagues?
  70. @Alfa158
    I think you’re missing an important point. People like Jia do not consider themselves to be merely living in an imperialist metropole. They are here with the intent of colonizing the imperialist metropole, replacing the imperialist inhabitants, and terraforming it into a society that fits them and works for their benefit. They aren’t (((alone))) in this enterprise and they are almost certainly going to succeed. You are like an Iroquois asking himself why all these White people would want to sail all the way across the Great Water to live in a continent that is wilderness and populated with Indians.

    1492 EUROPEANS: Ahhh, just look at this fresh, virgin expanse of territory just waiting to be exploited. The only thing standing in our way are a bunch of Stone Age primitives, and we shall sweep them away with ease.

    1870 ASHKENAZIM: Ahh, just look at this rich, already fully developed and built-up expanse of territory just waiting to be exploited. They did all the work for us! The only thing standing in our way are a bunch of cloddish, stupid goyim, and we shall swindle and enslave them with ease.

    2020 HAN: Ahh, just look at this rich, highly exploitable pre-fabricated extension of China, just waiting to be filled with humans, meaning us. The only thing standing in our way is a bunch of smug, arrogant Jews and their white, black and brown debt-slaves. But because we do not believe in their guilt-trip fairy stories, we shall sweep them away with ease.

    4179 CTHULHU: Ahh, just look at this charred, blackened wasteland, just perfect for a summer getaway home…

    • Agree: ben tillman
  71. @ConfirmationBias
    This article is actually not hating on white people. The author talks about historical situations, and then says that current Asian Americans are being targeted during the coronavirus pandemic. I don’t see where the hatred is?

    This article is actually not hating on white people.

    For one thing there is the noticeable dog that did not bark. Actual (current!) incidents with information about the perpetrators.

    Wait, here is one. And it just happens to be from NYC.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/woman-needs-stitches-after-anti-asian-hate-crime-attack-city-n1177146

    Let’s take a look at how the WaPo reported that (though they did at least include a link to the original article with the picture).
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/08/coronavirus-spreads-so-does-online-racism-targeting-asians-new-research-shows/

    On March 9, a woman in San Francisco said she was spit on by a man yelling expletives about China, the New York Times reported. Later that same month, an Asian woman riding a New York City bus was targeted by several other passengers who called her a racial slur and accused her of causing coronavirus, WPIX reported. One of the attackers then struck the woman on the head with an umbrella, resulting in an injury that needed stitches, according to the news station.

    P.S. You might consider whether or not your alias is an example of projection. Though I do like the truth in advertising quality it has.

    • Agree: syonredux, XYZ (no Mr.)
    • Replies: @Bucky
    Yes, truth is that compared to anti-Islam sentiment after 9/11, anti-asian sentiment in the wake of Coronavirus is miniscule.

    The media has played a role in there being so few incidents. In the near past that was not the case.
    , @Jack D
    Right, to the extent that there is a (rare) anti-Asian attack (likewise anti-gay attack, anti-Jewish attack, etc.) it's usually perpetrated by a Vibrant Member in Good Standing of the Coalition of the Fringes. But the articles never say that and we're supposed to imagine that it is some deplorable Trumpist MAGA hat wearing cracker yahoo who is beating up repressed minorities. If they have photos of the perp they might (or might not) see fit to show them (I wonder sometimes if this is some sort of rear guard action by the un-Woke) but you could read a hundred of these articles from end to end and not once will they mention the race of the perp, just that minority group X is being attacked because after all America is a horrible bigoted society and this is just one more example of America's no good horrible bigotedness.
    , @ConfirmationBias
    I get the pussyfooting around mentioning the race of the perpetrators that liberal publications tend to do - not denying that - just saying that this particular article isn’t actually hating on white people. I read it and didn’t feel it had that flavor; it did discuss some collective communal need to be accepted by the white majority (which really was the majority in the 70s/80s), but again it didn’t read like resentment or hatred to me... just matter of fact.

    As for the alias... we all have our biases don’t we :) this blog is probably one of the very few ones I read that’s so fundamentally different from where I typically get my news, on numerous fronts, but that’s also precisely why I enjoy it. It’s thought-provoking and exposes me to things, including value-judgments and commentary, that I probably wouldn’t come across otherwise.

    As for self projection... I don’t know. I don’t think so in this case, but in many cases, sure one’s biases get in the way. We all want to believes in a world that squares with our underlying belief systems, and often we see what we want to see. But perhaps with practice and exposure and comfort with being uncomfortable, we (I) get a little better at seeing things as they are... even if they aren’t always as we’d like them to be.

  72. @ConfirmationBias
    This article is actually not hating on white people. The author talks about historical situations, and then says that current Asian Americans are being targeted during the coronavirus pandemic. I don’t see where the hatred is?

    Some questions answer themselves…

    Q: I don’t see where the hatred is?
    A: Asian Americans are being targeted… Implicitly by White Americans.

    • Replies: @Don't Look at Me
    Really? I thought it was mostly blacks beating them up. I mean, blacks actually been beating them up Asians for a long time, but now they are beating them up for virus related reasons. At least that's what every single video of Asians getting harassed has indicated.
  73. @res

    This article is actually not hating on white people.
     
    For one thing there is the noticeable dog that did not bark. Actual (current!) incidents with information about the perpetrators.

    Wait, here is one. And it just happens to be from NYC.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/woman-needs-stitches-after-anti-asian-hate-crime-attack-city-n1177146

    Let's take a look at how the WaPo reported that (though they did at least include a link to the original article with the picture).
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/08/coronavirus-spreads-so-does-online-racism-targeting-asians-new-research-shows/

    On March 9, a woman in San Francisco said she was spit on by a man yelling expletives about China, the New York Times reported. Later that same month, an Asian woman riding a New York City bus was targeted by several other passengers who called her a racial slur and accused her of causing coronavirus, WPIX reported. One of the attackers then struck the woman on the head with an umbrella, resulting in an injury that needed stitches, according to the news station.
     
    P.S. You might consider whether or not your alias is an example of projection. Though I do like the truth in advertising quality it has.

    Yes, truth is that compared to anti-Islam sentiment after 9/11, anti-asian sentiment in the wake of Coronavirus is miniscule.

    The media has played a role in there being so few incidents. In the near past that was not the case.

  74. @anonymous

    The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos. But who can remember which nations were on which side in World War II?
     
    Maybe she found that Japanese-authored game, "Toss the China Baby on the Bayonet" game to be as exciting as the Japanese did. The Japs were great at that, I would surmise, because of lots and lots and lots of practice. Another popular game the Japs excelled at in Nanking was "Rape, Burn, Die."

    The object of that game is to catch a Chinese girl, rape her as much as her vagina would permit, set her on fire, and then watch her die.

    The game was so... Samurai.

    Of course, Japanese folk resist bragging about it now, owing to Japanese humility, I'm supposing.

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck. I guess the same pluck required to use her substantial incisors to tear into a boiled batwing. That is, it must be a Chinese thing, us white people will never understand.

    Or maybe... some cultures are better than others. 🤔

    Maybe she found that Japanese-authored game, “Toss the China Baby on the Bayonet”

    Those weren’t California’s Japanese. These are California’s Japanese, in the San Bruno camp, voting by absentee ballot, presumably, and rightfully, for Republicans:

  75. @res

    This article is actually not hating on white people.
     
    For one thing there is the noticeable dog that did not bark. Actual (current!) incidents with information about the perpetrators.

    Wait, here is one. And it just happens to be from NYC.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/woman-needs-stitches-after-anti-asian-hate-crime-attack-city-n1177146

    Let's take a look at how the WaPo reported that (though they did at least include a link to the original article with the picture).
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/08/coronavirus-spreads-so-does-online-racism-targeting-asians-new-research-shows/

    On March 9, a woman in San Francisco said she was spit on by a man yelling expletives about China, the New York Times reported. Later that same month, an Asian woman riding a New York City bus was targeted by several other passengers who called her a racial slur and accused her of causing coronavirus, WPIX reported. One of the attackers then struck the woman on the head with an umbrella, resulting in an injury that needed stitches, according to the news station.
     
    P.S. You might consider whether or not your alias is an example of projection. Though I do like the truth in advertising quality it has.

    Right, to the extent that there is a (rare) anti-Asian attack (likewise anti-gay attack, anti-Jewish attack, etc.) it’s usually perpetrated by a Vibrant Member in Good Standing of the Coalition of the Fringes. But the articles never say that and we’re supposed to imagine that it is some deplorable Trumpist MAGA hat wearing cracker yahoo who is beating up repressed minorities. If they have photos of the perp they might (or might not) see fit to show them (I wonder sometimes if this is some sort of rear guard action by the un-Woke) but you could read a hundred of these articles from end to end and not once will they mention the race of the perp, just that minority group X is being attacked because after all America is a horrible bigoted society and this is just one more example of America’s no good horrible bigotedness.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    They tell you the race of the attacker by not mentioning it. If the attacker were white you can be 100% sure that would not only be in the article, it would be in the headline. You are correct about their intent to mislead.
  76. In Brazilian news, this just in:

    “The police arrested this Saturday (11) ten Chinese persons who stole 15 thousand tests* for the detection of the coronavirus and approximately 2 million items among masks, gloves, caps, overalls, alcohol gel and thermometers.
    (…)

    The gang leader, Chinese Zheng Xiao Yun, who presented himself as president of the Associação Xangai no Brasil**, received an arrest order along with 9 other Chinese persons.
    (…)”
    (*) I suppose they mean test kits.
    (**) transl. Shanghai Association in Brazil)

    The items were stolen at Cumbica airport. The complete news story from which the above excerpts were translated may be read (in Portuguese) at:

    https://noticias.r7.com/sao-paulo/policia-de-sp-prende-10-por-roubo-de-testes-mascaras-e-luvas-11042020

    Another newspaper completely omits the nationality of the suspects:

    https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/cotidiano/2020/04/policia-prende-10-por-roubo-de-2-milhoes-de-mascaras-e-15-mil-testes-de-coronavirus-em-cumbica.shtml

  77. Hail says: • Website
    @Mr McKenna

    Asian-Americans have been spat on in the streets, harassed and insulted.
     
    Insulted, you say? Is nothing sacred? Hey, I've been spat on and much, much worse on the streets of New York City--as well as attacked in my home and my place of business--for no crime other than being white. And there are vastly more of us with stories like mine than there are of you. Yet you never, ever hear our stories in the mass media. Why would that be?

    Even children have been attacked as our fellow citizens blame us for a virus that threatens our families no less than any other household.
     
    Funny you should mention. Here's Tucker last night, regarding Wuhan.

    Here’s the mystery: The Chinese government allowed 5 million residents to flee the city before they locked it down in January. Most of them presumably went to other places in China. And yet, according to the Chinese – as well as all available evidence we now have in the West – there were no other major outbreaks in China. Not in Shanghai, not in Chengdu, not in Beijing.

    Meanwhile, other cities all over Europe and the United States have been brought to their knees by the virus. How could this be? It doesn’t seem to make any sense at all.

    For some reason, almost no one in the American media has even asked about it. That’s strange. At this point, we have no real explanation for why the coronavirus spread throughout the West, but not throughout China. We should find out.
     

    all over Europe and the United States have been brought to their knees by the virus. How could this be? It doesn’t seem to make any sense at all.

    It does if you entertain the Corona Coup D’etat idea.

    (The memo from Central Command to Sweden got lost in the mail.)

  78. @Jack D
    America is a great country.

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans. This flares up periodically in the form of anti-Japanese boycotts, smashing Japanese businesses, etc. but even when it's not flaring it's a continuing undercurrent of seething hatred and bad memories. The Koreans bring up the subject of reparations for the "comfort women" (Korean women allegedly forced into prostitution by the Japanese military) at every opportunity even though they are down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.

    But in the US, Japanese are just fellow Asians and Chinese-Americans and Korean-Americans can use Japanese internment 80 years ago as evidence of current anti-Asian prejudice by Americans and a stick with which to beat whitey. And as Steve says, never mind that American Chinese and Filipinos were among the most enthusiastic endorsers of the idea of interning Japanese enemies at the time.

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and their atrocities in Nanking and elsewhere was that this was accompanied by a great outpouring of love and assistance for our (then non-Communist) brave Chinese allies and Chinese were portrayed very positively in American popular culture at that time. But forget that part, what about the "internment of Asian-Americans"?

    down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.

    This reminds me of something but I can’t quite put my finger on it…

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    This reminds me of something but I can’t quite put my finger on it…
     
    Except the Japanese atrocities were in the course of exemplary massacres practiced around the world since pretty much the beginning of time. The message to all who might aid, hide or feed the rebels (aka the ancien regime now on the run, or fighting to overturn the conquest) "resist the new ruling power and die". Whereas the German message to Jews was "we're just sending you to work camps, while you atone for your racial sins", while they systematically gassed or starved every last Jew in their territory (minus a handful of mischlings) to death. I'd say there's a huge difference.

    During WWII, the Chinese lost in absolute terms, when you include every last person killed during the war, including deaths from famine and Chinese scorched earth tactics*, as well as pumped-up (by Communist and Nationalist alike) numbers for propaganda purposes, 20m people. That's fewer than the number that died during Chinese dynastic transitions or significant civil wars. It was 5% of the prewar Chinese population of 400m, and an order of magnitude less, %-wise of the 50% of Jews on the planet killed by the Germans during the Holocaust. In fact, in % terms, Chinese losses were during the Sino-Japanese War were probably in the lowest 25% of all major Chinese conflicts. Whereas in absolute and % terms, Jewish losses to the Germans exceeded the cataclysmic numbers suffered during the Roman persecutions, when they were in open insurrection against Roman rule.

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood

  79. @Jack D
    Right, to the extent that there is a (rare) anti-Asian attack (likewise anti-gay attack, anti-Jewish attack, etc.) it's usually perpetrated by a Vibrant Member in Good Standing of the Coalition of the Fringes. But the articles never say that and we're supposed to imagine that it is some deplorable Trumpist MAGA hat wearing cracker yahoo who is beating up repressed minorities. If they have photos of the perp they might (or might not) see fit to show them (I wonder sometimes if this is some sort of rear guard action by the un-Woke) but you could read a hundred of these articles from end to end and not once will they mention the race of the perp, just that minority group X is being attacked because after all America is a horrible bigoted society and this is just one more example of America's no good horrible bigotedness.

    They tell you the race of the attacker by not mentioning it. If the attacker were white you can be 100% sure that would not only be in the article, it would be in the headline. You are correct about their intent to mislead.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @res
    They tell us that way. For people like ConfirmationBias (that name is so perfect in this sentence, perhaps I have been gulled by a troll? life is complicated now that we have reached the Onion singularity where parody is indistinguishable from reality) all Americans (and I think whites in particular) get the blame.

    P.S. I think you left out "and the article would be on the front page."
  80. @anonymous

    The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos. But who can remember which nations were on which side in World War II?
     
    Maybe she found that Japanese-authored game, "Toss the China Baby on the Bayonet" game to be as exciting as the Japanese did. The Japs were great at that, I would surmise, because of lots and lots and lots of practice. Another popular game the Japs excelled at in Nanking was "Rape, Burn, Die."

    The object of that game is to catch a Chinese girl, rape her as much as her vagina would permit, set her on fire, and then watch her die.

    The game was so... Samurai.

    Of course, Japanese folk resist bragging about it now, owing to Japanese humility, I'm supposing.

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck. I guess the same pluck required to use her substantial incisors to tear into a boiled batwing. That is, it must be a Chinese thing, us white people will never understand.

    Or maybe... some cultures are better than others. 🤔

    Contest to kill 100 people using a sword

    The Contest to Kill 100 People Using A Sword (百人斬り競争, hyakunin-giri kyōsō) was a contest between Toshiaki Mukai and Tsuyoshi Noda, two Japanese Army officers, which took place during the Japanese invasion of China. The goal of the contest was to see who could kill 100 people the fastest while using a sword.

    In 1937, the Osaka Mainichi Shimbun and its sister newspaper, the Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shimbun covered a contest between two Japanese officers, Toshiaki Mukai (向井敏明) and Tsuyoshi Noda (野田毅), in which the two men were described as vying with one another to be the first to kill 100 people with a sword. The competition supposedly took place en route to Nanking, prior to the infamous Nanking Massacre, and was covered in four articles from November 30, 1937, to December 13, 1937; the last two being translated in the Japan Advertiser.

    Both officers supposedly surpassed their goal during the heat of battle, making it difficult to determine which officer had actually won the contest. Therefore (according to the journalists Asami Kazuo and Suzuki Jiro, writing in the Tokyo Nichi-Nichi Shimbun of December 13), they decided to begin another contest with the goal of 150 kills.[6] The Nichi Nichi headline of the story of December 13 read “‘Incredible Record’ [in the Contest to] Behead 100 People—Mukai 106 – 105 Noda—Both 2nd Lieutenants Go Into Extra Innings”.

    Other soldiers and historians have noted the unlikelihood of the lieutenants’ alleged heroics, which entailed killing enemy after enemy in fierce hand-to-hand combat.[4] Noda himself, on returning to his hometown, admitted this during a speech.

    “Actually, I didn’t kill more than four or five people in hand-to-hand combat … We’d face an enemy trench that we’d captured, and when we called out, “Ni, Lai-Lai!” (You, come here!), the Chinese soldiers were so stupid, they’d rush toward us all at once. Then we’d line them up and cut them down, from one end of the line to the other. I was praised for having killed a hundred people, but actually, almost all of them were killed in this way. The two of us did have a contest, but afterwards. I was often asked whether it was a big deal, and I said it was no big deal ...”[7]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest_to_kill_100_people_using_a_sword

    • Replies: @Just Passing Through
    Seems fake to to me. Just more atrocity propaganda so Chinese can continue to do what they do without any qualms, because they are the oppressed! Straight out of the Jewish textbook, they don't call them "Jews of the East" for nothing.
    , @Anon
    I saw an odd bit of footage of an elderly Japanese man describing some horrific medical experiments done on Chinese during WW2. He seemed like a pleasant enough man, and he seemed bothered by what he’d been involved in, but his attitude was just like, ‘that’s how it was then...’ He seemed to have no idea that he was actually incriminating himself by describing these actions. If he’d done these things to Jews, I have absolutely no doubt he would have been imprisoned or executed for war crimes.
  81. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    But will Australian kick them out of the Australian government?
    https://twitter.com/KeiraSavage00/status/1249048005283426305

    They have to back.

    Stop educating the children of the criminal asiatic oligarchs in our Universities. Often spies, always affiliated with the dictatorship.

  82. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @miss marple
    Thanks. I'd forgotten to commit a hate crime against Asians for giving the coronavirus to the world. Now, how exactly do I go about this?

    Just snub them in all interactions. Employment, Social gatherings, business patronage.

    They have to go back.

  83. Hail says: • Website
    @Buffalo Joe
    Just logged in to wish all a Happy and Safe Easter. Good day to be nice and kind.

    Easter is the greatest of our holidays. I can think of no more beautiful message than Easter’s, of the Resurrection.

    Google has bowed to pro-Easter public pressure and is running, today, its most ambitious Easter celebration to date:

    (See also, “Google Celebrates Easter,” April 2015, iSteve.) (See also, Google’s bold Easter doodles in 2013 and 2014.)

    • Replies: @res
    Snopes actually has some worthwhile backstory on this. I don't think I need to remind anyone here of this, but remember their bias while reading.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/google-doodle-ramadan-easter/

    It looks like their first Easter egg ; ) was in 2019 (excluding 2000 example below). This is apparently the policy.

    While Google traditionally avoids creating Doodles in honor of major religious holidays, a few exceptions exist. These religious Doodles are typically restricted to very specific locations. In 2006, for instance, a Google Doodle for Rosh Hashana was available to people in Israel. In 2008, a Doodle for Diwali was released in India. An Easter Google Doodle was on the search engine’s home page for users in the United States during the Christian holiday in 2000
     
    Here is that 2000 doodle.

    https://www.snopes.com/tachyon/2019/04/easter_logo.jpg

    You can see it in their archive here:

    https://www.google.com/doodles/happy-easter-2000
  84. One Mighty and Irresistible Tide: The Epic Struggle Over American Immigration, 1924-1965

    by Jia Lynn Yang

    In a riveting narrative filled with a fascinating cast of characters, from the indefatigable congressman Emanuel Celler and senator Herbert Lehman to the bull-headed Nevada senator Pat McCarran, Jia Lynn Yang recounts how lawmakers, activists, and presidents from Truman through LBJ worked relentlessly to abolish the 1924 law. Through a world war, a refugee crisis after the Holocaust, and a McCarthyist fever, a coalition of lawmakers and activists descended from Jewish, Irish, and Japanese immigrants fought to establish a new principle of equality in the American immigration system. Their crowning achievement, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, proved to be one of the most transformative laws in the country’s history, opening the door to nonwhite migration at levels never seen before―and changing America in ways that those who debated it could hardly have imagined.

    Framed movingly by her own family’s story of immigration to America, Yang’s One Mighty and Irresistible Tide is a deeply researched and illuminating work of history, one that shows how Americans have strived and struggled to live up to the ideal of a home for the “huddled masses,” as promised in Emma Lazarus’s famous poem.

    • Replies: @Hail

    Their crowning achievement, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, proved to be one of the most transformative laws in the country’s history, opening the door to nonwhite migration
     

    Americans have strived and struggled to live up to the ideal of a home for the “huddled masses,” as promised
     
    The heavy subtext: is Immigrant Supremacism.

    Or, longer form: "Immigrants or Recent-Immigrant-Stock are More American than Multi-Generational Americans"-ism.

    Endorsed and stamped with approval by JIA LYNN YANG. Now sit down, uppity natives.

  85. @Buffalo Joe
    Just logged in to wish all a Happy and Safe Easter. Good day to be nice and kind.

    Fr Coutts in Toronto likens this particular and unique Easter to the first:

    How was Easter handled during the plagues?

  86. Off Topic, but perhaps it will bring a smile to some people:

    Golf courses happy to see patrons on the course practicing social distancing. From the Sioux City Journal in Iowa.
    https://siouxcityjournal.com/sports/golf/golf-courses-happy-to-see-patrons-on-the-course-practicing-social-distancing/article_884fd935-31ef-5f3c-81d5-91a1e7b694fe.html

    Iowa Governor Kim Reynolds didn’t include golf courses in the shutdown order.

  87. @Rapparee
    Since hate-whiteyism is such a magnanimously broad church movement, and the late Professor Ignatiev has assured us that the 19th century Irish were also nonwhites, can Denis Kearney also be retroactively declared an oppressed POC in natural solidarity with contemporary Asian lady journalists?

    …. can Denis Kearney also be retroactively declared an oppressed POC in natural solidarity with contemporary Asian lady journalists?

    Excommunication is eternal……

  88. Hail says: • Website
    @syonredux
    One Mighty and Irresistible Tide: The Epic Struggle Over American Immigration, 1924-1965

    by Jia Lynn Yang

    In a riveting narrative filled with a fascinating cast of characters, from the indefatigable congressman Emanuel Celler and senator Herbert Lehman to the bull-headed Nevada senator Pat McCarran, Jia Lynn Yang recounts how lawmakers, activists, and presidents from Truman through LBJ worked relentlessly to abolish the 1924 law. Through a world war, a refugee crisis after the Holocaust, and a McCarthyist fever, a coalition of lawmakers and activists descended from Jewish, Irish, and Japanese immigrants fought to establish a new principle of equality in the American immigration system. Their crowning achievement, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, proved to be one of the most transformative laws in the country’s history, opening the door to nonwhite migration at levels never seen before―and changing America in ways that those who debated it could hardly have imagined.
     

    Framed movingly by her own family’s story of immigration to America, Yang’s One Mighty and Irresistible Tide is a deeply researched and illuminating work of history, one that shows how Americans have strived and struggled to live up to the ideal of a home for the "huddled masses," as promised in Emma Lazarus’s famous poem.
     
    https://www.amazon.com/One-Mighty-Irresistible-Tide-Immigration/dp/0393635848

    Their crowning achievement, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, proved to be one of the most transformative laws in the country’s history, opening the door to nonwhite migration

    Americans have strived and struggled to live up to the ideal of a home for the “huddled masses,” as promised

    The heavy subtext: is Immigrant Supremacism.

    Or, longer form: “Immigrants or Recent-Immigrant-Stock are More American than Multi-Generational Americans”-ism.

    Endorsed and stamped with approval by JIA LYNN YANG. Now sit down, uppity natives.

    • Replies: @Hail
    Who is JIA LYNN YANG:

    https://hailtoyou.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jia-lynn-yang-feb-2017-mit-center-for-intl-studies.png

    (Feb. 2017 pic, speaking at an anti-Muslim-Ban symposium in which she was invited as a Washington Post immigration-policy expert.)

    ______________

    From a Sept. 2017 feature in the New York Times introducing Jia Lynn Yang as the new NYT National Desk Deputy Editor:

    Jia Lynn Yang ... has been Washington Post’s deputy national security editor since 2015
     

    A native of Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn grew up spending summers with her extended family in Los Angeles, which taught her that the best food in America can be found in the dullest of strip malls. [...]

    Jia Lynn graduated from Yale with a B.A. in philosophy [2004] and a love of journalism developed at the Yale Daily News, where one of her editors was a smooth-talking guy named Michael Barbaro.
     
    Is that line about Michael Barbaro supposed to imply they are in a relationship, married, or what? Strange line. (It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish and a New York Times'er since 2005. Last word is he has defected from the full-Gay camp is is planning to marry a woman, after years of marriage to a man.)

    ______________

    From a July 2015 feature at the Wash. Post that introduced Jia Lynn Yang there as new deputy national security editor:

    Born [Dec. 1982] and raised in Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn joined the Post in 2010 as a reporter covering the intersection of business and policy. She also worked from Hong Kong on the Edward Snowden story after he was identified as the leaker of NSA documents to The Post and The Guardian. Her story on IBM’s relationship to its hometown was included in the Columbia Journalism Review’s anthology of “The Best Business Writing 2014.” She also contributed to a series on income inequality that was a finalist for a Gerald Loeb Award in explanatory reporting.

    Before joining the Post, Jia Lynn spent five years at Fortune magazine. She majored in philosophy at Yale, where she graduated in 2004, and lives in Adams Morgan with her husband, Zach Carter, a journalist for The Huffington Post.
     
    So it's Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a 'Hapa,' but in other pics looks not so much.

    They're still together, if Twitter is any indication:

    [Zach Carter Retweeted]

    Jia Lynn Yang
    @jialynnyang
    Apr 12

    "In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism because it had been drilled into me early on that racism against Asians didn’t exist."

    This is a powerful, unflinching essay from @cathyparkhong.

    Thank goodness for her voice right now.
     

    Zach Carter [Verified]
    @zachdcarter
    Mar 31

    I don’t know who still needs to hear this, but my wife’s book is a masterpiece. Starred review in Booklist: “
     
    https://twitter.com/zachdcarter/status/1245132152859131904

    They have a dog.
    , @miss marple
    Shameless self-promotion isn't as quintessentially American as you suggest.
  89. @res

    This article is actually not hating on white people.
     
    For one thing there is the noticeable dog that did not bark. Actual (current!) incidents with information about the perpetrators.

    Wait, here is one. And it just happens to be from NYC.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-america/woman-needs-stitches-after-anti-asian-hate-crime-attack-city-n1177146

    Let's take a look at how the WaPo reported that (though they did at least include a link to the original article with the picture).
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2020/04/08/coronavirus-spreads-so-does-online-racism-targeting-asians-new-research-shows/

    On March 9, a woman in San Francisco said she was spit on by a man yelling expletives about China, the New York Times reported. Later that same month, an Asian woman riding a New York City bus was targeted by several other passengers who called her a racial slur and accused her of causing coronavirus, WPIX reported. One of the attackers then struck the woman on the head with an umbrella, resulting in an injury that needed stitches, according to the news station.
     
    P.S. You might consider whether or not your alias is an example of projection. Though I do like the truth in advertising quality it has.

    I get the pussyfooting around mentioning the race of the perpetrators that liberal publications tend to do – not denying that – just saying that this particular article isn’t actually hating on white people. I read it and didn’t feel it had that flavor; it did discuss some collective communal need to be accepted by the white majority (which really was the majority in the 70s/80s), but again it didn’t read like resentment or hatred to me… just matter of fact.

    As for the alias… we all have our biases don’t we 🙂 this blog is probably one of the very few ones I read that’s so fundamentally different from where I typically get my news, on numerous fronts, but that’s also precisely why I enjoy it. It’s thought-provoking and exposes me to things, including value-judgments and commentary, that I probably wouldn’t come across otherwise.

    As for self projection… I don’t know. I don’t think so in this case, but in many cases, sure one’s biases get in the way. We all want to believes in a world that squares with our underlying belief systems, and often we see what we want to see. But perhaps with practice and exposure and comfort with being uncomfortable, we (I) get a little better at seeing things as they are… even if they aren’t always as we’d like them to be.

    • Replies: @res
    Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Given your obvious serious engagement with that comment I was overly hard on you personally in my earlier response. Sorry. I am more calibrated to dealing with trolls who say things like that and sometimes I misjudge.

    I don't know if hatred is always the right word, but I think it is hard to deny articles like that convey a feeling of resentment towards the white majority (otherwise, why not even a token effort towards something like: "relative to most places we do well here, but we should strive to do even better"). And some rather serious tone deafness to how that sounds to the people of a country which has welcomed the author to live among us. As other commenters have mentioned, there is also the rather silly idea of pan-Asian unity (which only happens in a place where combined they form a small minority, as far as I can tell anyway). That gives a clear us and them sense to the article. How can you forgive the Rape of Nanking (against your own Chinese) while treating the WWII internment of Japanese as unforgivable?

    On reflection, rather than projection I would just say you are still willing to give authors of articles like that the benefit of the doubt. I have lost my patience in that regard. I guess the question is which of those biases gives the more accurate view of the world.

    P.S. And please stick around. We can use more thoughtful comments coming from different perspectives. To me that is what beneficial diversity is really about.
  90. My wife’s mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife’s life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can’t distract those of us who “notice” things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations — BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON’T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let’s just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife’s mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife’s life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can’t go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that “Hong Kong” flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don’t you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother’s funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron’s own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    • Disagree: vhrm
    • Replies: @Hail
    I am sorry to hear of your family's loss, Buzz Mohawk.
    , @Jack D
    First of all, my deepest condolences to you and your wife for your loss. Life behind the Iron Curtain was no piece of cake. Think of the struggles that Americans are suddenly experiencing with getting food, toilet paper, etc. and multiply those by 10 and have them last for 50 years and you'll have some idea of what they had to endure on a daily basis. Simple things that we take for granted like hot water coming from your faucet might disappear for months on end. Things that people in America would donate to the thrift store or leave at the curb having the status of rare luxuries requiring special connections to obtain. Not to mention the constant, gnawing fear - who is an informer? Will I be arrested for some imaginary ideological crime? My children disqualified from higher education and made into 2nd class citizens because of some offhand remark I make?

    I don't blame you for lashing out in your grief, but Steve is not the one who banned international travel. As he has pointed out, even on domestic routes where travel is still entirely legal, passengers have virtually disappeared of their own accord, no government action needed. Your anger is misplaced.

    2nd, as for Steve's financial arrangements with Ron, they are really none of your business. Donate or don't as you wish but I don't have the feeling that Steve is living in luxury. Last I heard he was (or up until recently had been) driving a very old car. He doesn't regale us with tales of his ski vacations in Switzerland. I just don't have the feeling he is rolling in dough. I have no idea how much Ron is paying him, but I don't have the feeling that it would be enough without donations too so that's probably why he asks. He has had the good taste not to ask in the middle of this crisis when there are people that are hurting even more.

    I think all of us are trying to weigh the balance of the value of lives lost in the short term vs the consequences of a lockdown. Clearly, some people would like to set the balance in a different way and the dynamics of modern life means that there has been some overreaction, but it's a good thing that our society puts a high value on human life. Circling back to your recently departed mother in law, a good way to live your life is to think " What would Ceaușescu do?" and then do the exact opposite in each case. If he were here today instead of in hell where he richly deserves to be, Ceaușescu would have the planes flying.

    , @Mr. Anon
    My condolences to your wife and family, Buzz. I am sorry to hear it.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.
     
    And then follows graf after graf of distaff shrieking… Ironic.jpg

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it.
     
    Wow, Buzz, I had no idea Steve, from a bedroom closet in the Valley, has the power to shut down international travel and close borders… he could’ve stopped unwanted immigration the whole time—?

    WHAT THE FUCK STEVE why didn’t you do this earlier !?!?!*

    *If Buzz is wrong about your omnipotent powers, Steve, I apologize. Happy Easter. :)

    https://pics.me.me/would-big-chungus-save-the-easter-week-71369894.png
    , @Lot
    Steve has been drifting away from Team Shutdown the last two weeks. He’s questioned particular aspects of the shutdown and wants to start reopening things based on hard data.

    My view was at the time, with the info we had in early March, shutdowns were the right move.

    Now thanks to a lot more info, I switched over to Team Reopen. Steve basically has too, and much of the right is moving there as well.

    CV has been a strange virus that seems to have caused a lot of damage in a few towns in Italy and Spain, plus the New York area, and can kill off a big part of nursing homes in a matter of weeks. Everywhere else, it’s a bad seasonal flu. Getting things right with conflicting information like that isn’t easy.
    , @William Badwhite
    Please accept condolences from the Badwhites, Buzz. I'm sorry for you and your wife's loss.
    , @Intelligent Dasein
    My cousin, who spent years getting his pilot's license and years more looking for a job, just lost his first job due to coronavirus panic.

    Another cousin, the manager of a retail store, just had to lay off her entire workforce by conference call.

    This is not like losing a loved one of course, it's just illustrative of all the millions of real people whose lives are being destroyed by utterly unnecessary and hysterical overreaction.

    I'm sorry, Buzz. This needs to stop now.
    , @MBlanc46
    Condolences, Buzz.
    , @Anonymous
    You are starting your own blog now,I take it?
    , @vhrm
    Condolences on your loss. I'll assume this cri de coeur is driven by grief and stress, but i don't think throwing things at Steve is really warranted.

    Yes, he's been relatively pro shutdown and seemingly little disturbed by the police state stuff, but all in a fairly mild and inquiring way.

    Further, international travel restrictions, whether outright bans or quarantine on arrival, would be part of the package even with a considerably milder response to Corona-chan than what we've had so this particular funeral case wouldn't have likely worked anyway.

    Anyhow, i hope you and yours look forward to days of less pain.
  91. @anon

    Jia Lynn Yang
     
    ?
    He/she/sir/them/they, need to go back to wherever they hell they/them came from.
    Easy.

    “He/she/sir/them/they, need to go back to wherever they hell they/them came from.
    Easy.”

    And take their family members with them.

  92. Anon[194] • Disclaimer says:

    This guy claims China is abruptly kicking blacks out, and that this is being suppressed by the media.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1249020191549390848

    My suspicion is that Chinese officials read US reports about the disproportionately high Covid-19 infection/death rate among blacks, along with notices that blacks refuse to obey social distancing rules due to their cultural proclivities, and the Chinese have decided that blacks are too much trouble to have in their country right now.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome


    disproportionately high Covid-19 infection/death rate among blacks

     

    Blacks vote D. Majority black cities are run by looney Marxist D's who are all in on the Coronascam and they fudge the numbers more. Making white males employed in the private sector shelter in place and not go to their jobs benefits them. Majority white cities are less sympathetic to the whole enterprise and are more reluctant to fudge the numbers.
  93. Just a completely OT Easter egg for your enjoyment, posted today. Imagine Prussia influencing flags as they did schooling. Best ones are Andorra (5:40), Cyprus (8:40), and several of the minor and/or disputed territories (starting at 10:30):

  94. Hail says: • Website
    @Hail

    Their crowning achievement, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, proved to be one of the most transformative laws in the country’s history, opening the door to nonwhite migration
     

    Americans have strived and struggled to live up to the ideal of a home for the “huddled masses,” as promised
     
    The heavy subtext: is Immigrant Supremacism.

    Or, longer form: "Immigrants or Recent-Immigrant-Stock are More American than Multi-Generational Americans"-ism.

    Endorsed and stamped with approval by JIA LYNN YANG. Now sit down, uppity natives.

    Who is JIA LYNN YANG:

    (Feb. 2017 pic, speaking at an anti-Muslim-Ban symposium in which she was invited as a Washington Post immigration-policy expert.)

    ______________

    From a Sept. 2017 feature in the New York Times introducing Jia Lynn Yang as the new NYT National Desk Deputy Editor:

    Jia Lynn Yang … has been Washington Post’s deputy national security editor since 2015

    A native of Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn grew up spending summers with her extended family in Los Angeles, which taught her that the best food in America can be found in the dullest of strip malls. […]

    Jia Lynn graduated from Yale with a B.A. in philosophy [2004] and a love of journalism developed at the Yale Daily News, where one of her editors was a smooth-talking guy named Michael Barbaro.

    Is that line about Michael Barbaro supposed to imply they are in a relationship, married, or what? Strange line. (It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish and a New York Times’er since 2005. Last word is he has defected from the full-Gay camp is is planning to marry a woman, after years of marriage to a man.)

    ______________

    From a July 2015 feature at the Wash. Post that introduced Jia Lynn Yang there as new deputy national security editor:

    Born [Dec. 1982] and raised in Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn joined the Post in 2010 as a reporter covering the intersection of business and policy. She also worked from Hong Kong on the Edward Snowden story after he was identified as the leaker of NSA documents to The Post and The Guardian. Her story on IBM’s relationship to its hometown was included in the Columbia Journalism Review’s anthology of “The Best Business Writing 2014.” She also contributed to a series on income inequality that was a finalist for a Gerald Loeb Award in explanatory reporting.

    Before joining the Post, Jia Lynn spent five years at Fortune magazine. She majored in philosophy at Yale, where she graduated in 2004, and lives in Adams Morgan with her husband, Zach Carter, a journalist for The Huffington Post.

    So it’s Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a ‘Hapa,’ but in other pics looks not so much.

    They’re still together, if Twitter is any indication:

    [Zach Carter Retweeted]

    Jia Lynn Yang
    @jialynnyang
    Apr 12

    “In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism because it had been drilled into me early on that racism against Asians didn’t exist.”

    This is a powerful, unflinching essay from @cathyparkhong.

    Thank goodness for her voice right now.

    Zach Carter [Verified]
    @zachdcarter
    Mar 31

    I don’t know who still needs to hear this, but my wife’s book is a masterpiece. Starred review in Booklist: “

    They have a dog.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    So it’s Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a ‘Hapa,’ but in other pics looks not so much.
     
    If Zach Carter has ANY Asian blood, I'll eat his dog. He looks NOTHING like anyone with Asian blood that I've ever seen, in ANY picture. Not that it has any relevance to begin with. I've already noted that people on unz.com identify 10 out of ever 5 people whose politics they don't like as "Jewish" and this seems to be the equivalent.

    Jia, OTOH, is hilarious. “In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism" - sure you did, Jia. Maybe it's true and now she is making up for her past sins of omission.
    , @Lot
    “ It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish ”

    He’s had one male spouse and is now engaged to a woman, so half gay. Also half Jewish, Barbaro’s father is Italian-American.

    Ronan Farrow appears to be another half-gay half jewish journalist, but this depends on Woody’s iffy paternity.
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Who is JIA LYNN YANG
     

    They have a dog.
     
    Yes, but for how long? (is a Chinaman) :

    When her pantry runs low, she’ll use that as an excuse for wokking the dog.
    , @Farenheit
    I get when a white dude has a hankerin' for Chinaladies it's called "yellow fever". But what's it called when these east asian lasses have a groinal ache for the young white buck....Snow Blindness? Fog Fever? Ice Ache?
    , @Clyde
    Jia Lynn Yang did not succumb to going about her hair so she is fairly legit. Thanks for the research on possible lesbianism and her marital status, where she is coming from. She is what used to be called a handsome woman. Does she cook for her husband? I'll bet he has to beg her for days for some solid Chinese food and that she often burns the rice.
  95. @Hail

    Their crowning achievement, the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act, proved to be one of the most transformative laws in the country’s history, opening the door to nonwhite migration
     

    Americans have strived and struggled to live up to the ideal of a home for the “huddled masses,” as promised
     
    The heavy subtext: is Immigrant Supremacism.

    Or, longer form: "Immigrants or Recent-Immigrant-Stock are More American than Multi-Generational Americans"-ism.

    Endorsed and stamped with approval by JIA LYNN YANG. Now sit down, uppity natives.

    Shameless self-promotion isn’t as quintessentially American as you suggest.

  96. @miss marple
    Thanks. I'd forgotten to commit a hate crime against Asians for giving the coronavirus to the world. Now, how exactly do I go about this?

    I’d forgotten to commit a hate crime against Asians for giving the coronavirus to the world. Now, how exactly do I go about this?

    Easy peasey: merely point out to a member of the media that the same blacks attacking orthodox Jews in the street are the people attacking Chinese folks in public, often in broad daylight.

    Voila!: by the time they’re through pointing and sputtering their indignation (in print or electronically), you may rest assured you will have Officially Committed a Hate Crime.

  97. There is a very good story on brown people they could have and don’t run .

    They are dozens of Diamond Princess now on many ports all over the world. In each boat more than 1000 crew , with around 15% , are quarantined. They evacuate to the hospital those who are very ill.

    But acontrary to the passengers, Crews can’t be whiny about it and post messages on the social media, there is not one single journalist on earth that is speaking about them.

    Just in Southampton, there are 3 boats from the same company with more than 1000 people in each boat and a 15% infection rate.

    This percentage may even be a maximum !!!

    So that is a true social or ethnic story of enormous discrimination because the boats are in western countries . It’s only the people who are brown south Asian

  98. OT: This guy says China has landlocked Africa. The Chinese have bought up and control all of Africa’s ports:

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ScheyChris/status/1249065197584764930

  99. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    I am sorry to hear of your family’s loss, Buzz Mohawk.

  100. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    First of all, my deepest condolences to you and your wife for your loss. Life behind the Iron Curtain was no piece of cake. Think of the struggles that Americans are suddenly experiencing with getting food, toilet paper, etc. and multiply those by 10 and have them last for 50 years and you’ll have some idea of what they had to endure on a daily basis. Simple things that we take for granted like hot water coming from your faucet might disappear for months on end. Things that people in America would donate to the thrift store or leave at the curb having the status of rare luxuries requiring special connections to obtain. Not to mention the constant, gnawing fear – who is an informer? Will I be arrested for some imaginary ideological crime? My children disqualified from higher education and made into 2nd class citizens because of some offhand remark I make?

    I don’t blame you for lashing out in your grief, but Steve is not the one who banned international travel. As he has pointed out, even on domestic routes where travel is still entirely legal, passengers have virtually disappeared of their own accord, no government action needed. Your anger is misplaced.

    2nd, as for Steve’s financial arrangements with Ron, they are really none of your business. Donate or don’t as you wish but I don’t have the feeling that Steve is living in luxury. Last I heard he was (or up until recently had been) driving a very old car. He doesn’t regale us with tales of his ski vacations in Switzerland. I just don’t have the feeling he is rolling in dough. I have no idea how much Ron is paying him, but I don’t have the feeling that it would be enough without donations too so that’s probably why he asks. He has had the good taste not to ask in the middle of this crisis when there are people that are hurting even more.

    I think all of us are trying to weigh the balance of the value of lives lost in the short term vs the consequences of a lockdown. Clearly, some people would like to set the balance in a different way and the dynamics of modern life means that there has been some overreaction, but it’s a good thing that our society puts a high value on human life. Circling back to your recently departed mother in law, a good way to live your life is to think ” What would Ceaușescu do?” and then do the exact opposite in each case. If he were here today instead of in hell where he richly deserves to be, Ceaușescu would have the planes flying.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke, Kylie
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Not to mention the constant, gnawing fear – who is an informer? Will I be arrested for some imaginary ideological crime? My children disqualified from higher education and made into 2nd class citizens because of some offhand remark I make?
     
    Between Twitter and Corona-chan, we are starting to get a taste of that here too.
    , @Anonymous
    In California where cars rusteth not, why not drive an old car? If I lived there I’d have two or three old cars and daily drive them. No snow, no road salt, etc.
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    ... but it’s a good thing that our society puts a high value on human life.
     
    Jack, our society might put a high value on human life, but not the people causing this total shutdown. The Lyin' Press (I don't include iSteve in this, of course), is, in McDonald's marketing terms, LOVIN' IT! They have so many viewers for so much time, and causing panic 24/7 is how this was done. They will keep it up until people get sick and tired of it. That might be a while, as much as people are glued to their phones and the idiot plate.

    Governments have used what should have been a minor "crisis" as a way to gain even more power. Just using the terms "lockdown" and "shelter-in-place" gets them wet down below. Next, they will get to dole out $2 - $10,000,000,000,000 to whomever sucks them off harder with lots of little strings attached. It's a blast, man! That is, if you are a high-level US Feral government Ceausescu-wanna be, or even a Governor of Wyoming, or Mayor of Camden, New Jersey.

    Speaking of Ceausescu, he had no regard for human life or the quality of human lives in Romania, but his type is not at all far away from the American officials wanting to be able to shut down this or that part of the private economy at will. Our officials just wish we weren't still armed is all. Ceausescu would have the planes flying, but only for the high-up Commies anyway. That's the way it may go here ...
  101. @Anonymous
    America is anti-Asian, so why is Jia in America paying taxes to support the imperialist US government that aids Zionist tyranny over Palestinians?

    The reason why US is anti-Asian is simple. Every nation needs some enemy. Due to PC taboo, Americans can't say anything about the three most destructive groups: Jews, blacks, homos.

    So, they dump all their rage on approved targets like Russia, Iran, and Asia.

    But Jia's ilk betrayed their own people by choosing to live in the Imperialist Metropole of the world.

    Why so surprised that the US is the way it is? It was founded om imperialism and genocide. And as if the great land and resources weren't enough, US had to take over Asian Pacific, destroy Palestine, and in 20 yrs wreck Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, and wage new wars or sanctions on Russia and Iran. Hypocrisy and arrogance are baked into the American character.
    If Jia chose to live in such an imperialist metrople and write for NYT that supports Zionist tyranny, what utterl lack of self-awareness.

    America is anti-Asian, so why is Jia in America

    The surest way to defeat an enemy is via demographic conquest:

    The U.S. white majority will soon disappear forever

    https://www.houstonchronicle.com/local/gray-matters/article/The-US-white-majority-will-soon-disappear-forever-13806738.php

    White Children Will Soon Become the Minority in America

    The U.S. Census Bureau projects that, by the middle of 2020, nonwhites will account for the majority of the nation’s 74 million children.

    https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/white-children-will-soon-become-minority-america-113076

    Reflecting a demographic shift, 109 U.S. counties have become majority nonwhite since 2000

    https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2019/08/21/u-s-counties-majority-nonwhite/

    The US will become ‘minority white’ in 2045, Census projects

    The new statistics project that the nation will become “minority white” in 2045. During that year, whites will comprise 49.7 percent of the population in contrast to 24.6 percent for Hispanics, 13.1 percent for blacks, 7.9 percent for Asians, and 3.8 percent for multiracial populations

    https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2018/03/14/the-us-will-become-minority-white-in-2045-census-projects/

  102. @Hail
    Who is JIA LYNN YANG:

    https://hailtoyou.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jia-lynn-yang-feb-2017-mit-center-for-intl-studies.png

    (Feb. 2017 pic, speaking at an anti-Muslim-Ban symposium in which she was invited as a Washington Post immigration-policy expert.)

    ______________

    From a Sept. 2017 feature in the New York Times introducing Jia Lynn Yang as the new NYT National Desk Deputy Editor:

    Jia Lynn Yang ... has been Washington Post’s deputy national security editor since 2015
     

    A native of Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn grew up spending summers with her extended family in Los Angeles, which taught her that the best food in America can be found in the dullest of strip malls. [...]

    Jia Lynn graduated from Yale with a B.A. in philosophy [2004] and a love of journalism developed at the Yale Daily News, where one of her editors was a smooth-talking guy named Michael Barbaro.
     
    Is that line about Michael Barbaro supposed to imply they are in a relationship, married, or what? Strange line. (It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish and a New York Times'er since 2005. Last word is he has defected from the full-Gay camp is is planning to marry a woman, after years of marriage to a man.)

    ______________

    From a July 2015 feature at the Wash. Post that introduced Jia Lynn Yang there as new deputy national security editor:

    Born [Dec. 1982] and raised in Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn joined the Post in 2010 as a reporter covering the intersection of business and policy. She also worked from Hong Kong on the Edward Snowden story after he was identified as the leaker of NSA documents to The Post and The Guardian. Her story on IBM’s relationship to its hometown was included in the Columbia Journalism Review’s anthology of “The Best Business Writing 2014.” She also contributed to a series on income inequality that was a finalist for a Gerald Loeb Award in explanatory reporting.

    Before joining the Post, Jia Lynn spent five years at Fortune magazine. She majored in philosophy at Yale, where she graduated in 2004, and lives in Adams Morgan with her husband, Zach Carter, a journalist for The Huffington Post.
     
    So it's Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a 'Hapa,' but in other pics looks not so much.

    They're still together, if Twitter is any indication:

    [Zach Carter Retweeted]

    Jia Lynn Yang
    @jialynnyang
    Apr 12

    "In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism because it had been drilled into me early on that racism against Asians didn’t exist."

    This is a powerful, unflinching essay from @cathyparkhong.

    Thank goodness for her voice right now.
     

    Zach Carter [Verified]
    @zachdcarter
    Mar 31

    I don’t know who still needs to hear this, but my wife’s book is a masterpiece. Starred review in Booklist: “
     
    https://twitter.com/zachdcarter/status/1245132152859131904

    They have a dog.

    So it’s Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a ‘Hapa,’ but in other pics looks not so much.

    If Zach Carter has ANY Asian blood, I’ll eat his dog. He looks NOTHING like anyone with Asian blood that I’ve ever seen, in ANY picture. Not that it has any relevance to begin with. I’ve already noted that people on unz.com identify 10 out of ever 5 people whose politics they don’t like as “Jewish” and this seems to be the equivalent.

    Jia, OTOH, is hilarious. “In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism” – sure you did, Jia. Maybe it’s true and now she is making up for her past sins of omission.

    • Replies: @Hail

    Zach Carter...looks NOTHING like anyone with Asian blood that I’ve ever seen
     
    Agreed.

    This was the HuffPost profile pic referred to:
    _
    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c112f5024000031008c49d0.png
    _
    At a glance it struck me as looking Central Asian, or a proxy for some kind of Central Asian (resulting in a comparable phenotype, as many part-E.Asian, part-Europeans have). I don't think his other available pictures do this much or at all.

    Video of him speaking:

    One eight years ago (from 3:55):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_F42ty6nmg

    And one from a few days ago (see 2:15):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk7UPfVCW58

  103. @William Badwhite
    They tell you the race of the attacker by not mentioning it. If the attacker were white you can be 100% sure that would not only be in the article, it would be in the headline. You are correct about their intent to mislead.

    They tell us that way. For people like ConfirmationBias (that name is so perfect in this sentence, perhaps I have been gulled by a troll? life is complicated now that we have reached the Onion singularity where parody is indistinguishable from reality) all Americans (and I think whites in particular) get the blame.

    P.S. I think you left out “and the article would be on the front page.”

    • Agree: William Badwhite
  104. Hail says: • Website

    To all remaining CoronaPanic-pusher holdouts:

    A new Danish study finds total mortality at 0.1% to 0.2% of those who get the virus.

    Since no virus ever achieves total, 100% population penetration, if the Danish study is correct this would imply an unchecked pandemic would cause a the total population loss attributable to the Wuhan Coronavirus Pandemic in the 0.05% to 0.1% range. Even this small hit could be softened with sensible measures to protect the elderly and infirm. No crippling ‘shutdowns’ needed.

    The anti-CoronaPanic side had been saying this all along, but were shouted down as the viral epidemic mutated into a Mass Hysteria Pandemic. CoronaDissidents like Dr. Ioannidis had been saying this all along, with his and many other voices emerging at cusp of the Big Mistake yelling ‘For God’s sake, Stop!’ The Corona Coup D’Etat faction saw blood, so to speak; they took no prisoners, and burned it all down.

    This public-policy disaster, an ultra-hyped-up Apocalypse Virus that turned out to be a bad flu strain, the Corona Big Mistake, the Corona Coup D’Etat, demands answers. Who did this?
    .

    Also, with more and more data rolling in from independent studies, all corroborating an unchecked-epidemic @ <0.1% virus-attributable-population-loss finding, it's also worth stressing again that the victim profile is strongly skewed towards deathbed patients. With Hamburg's anti-CoronaPanic health authority now classifying half of the dead as deathbed-patients and thus not true coronavirus-caused deaths (breaking the spell of all corona-positive deaths being magic-wanded into corona-caused deaths), and almost all the rest were people with serious pre-existing conditions. A simplified-model demonstration of increased risk of death per year from this minor flu pandemic, by age-and-condition category, shows how insignificant it really was for society, and how bad a mistake the CoronaShutdowns were.

    (The numbers used above are for demonstration purposes, a simplified-reality framework in which society is modeled on three groups, the Healthy, the Unhealthy/Very-Aged, and the Terminal Patients; the data that keeps rolling in continues to corroborate those numbers are ballpark-correct.)

    If findings of the accumulating studies out of France, Japan, Germany, Iceland, Denmark, and others , as well as the best estimates of independent experts, are correct, it means genuine coronavirus deaths for all except the category Terminal Patients will be comparable to car accident deaths at mid-late 20th century levels. Maybe a little worse than car accident deaths, but not by much.

    Given that a very large share of coronavirus-positive deaths were statistically likely to die in 2020 anyway, it is unlikely that 2020 total deaths will increase in any noticeable way.

    • Replies: @res

    A new Danish study finds total mortality at 0.1% to 0.2% of those who get the virus.
     
    Thanks for the link. Are you familiar with the concept of "selection bias"? If not, please read this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias

    From the English translation of that article (emphasis mine):

    If we adjust for the test to not work perfectly and assume that the blood donors are representative of the entire population, it is equivalent to 127,000 people in Denmark having been infected.

    Thus, when 203 Danes are declared dead today with coronavirus, it gives a mortality of 0.16 percent - or 1.6 per thousand.

    But blood donations are not representative of the entire population because they are generally healthier than the total population.

    - Therefore, the actual number infected throughout the Danish population may well be greater, says Henrik Ullum, who emphasizes that the figures are preliminary and must be read with caution.

    Blood donors come to donate blood and are healthy and healthy. Therefore, we may underestimate how many have been infected. We can also overestimate it if they have traveled more or been more ill than the background population, says Henrik Ullum.

     

    That article is consistent with data estimating the mortality rate for younger people at around 0.2%. Especially when you consider the least healthy of those people are unlikely to be donating blood. See this comment and underlying data:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/san-diego-neighborhood-case-rates/#comment-3816590
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

    80+ years old 14.8%
    70-79 years old 8.0%
    60-69 years old 3.6%
    50-59 years old 1.3%
    40-49 years old 0.4%
    30-39 years old 0.2%
    20-29 years old 0.2%
    10-19 years old 0.2%
    0-9 years old no fatalities
     
    In my comment I combine those numbers with US population demographics to get a raw CFR estimate of 1.85% which I then divided by two (for asymptomatic cases) to get an IFR estimate of a bit under 1%.

    In fairness, I did a bit more research. In the US the age demographics of blood donors actually skew older.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2017/09/24/loyal-blood-donors-age-industry-out-young-blood/683714001/

    Overall, nearly 60% of blood donations come from people over 40 — and nearly 45% come from people older than 50, according to the AABB, an international non-profit focused on transfusion medicine and cellular therapies.
    ...
    for nearly a decade, blood banks have focused on recruiting teens and young adults, often through high school and college blood drives.

    The tactic has been successful: Kids in the youngest age groups — 16-18 and 19-22 — now account for about 20% of all donations.

    But that’s not enough to compensate for lower turnout among people in their late 20s and 30s who can be harder to reach, more mobile and less inclined to donate than other generations. Fewer than 10% of blood donations come from people ages 23-29, with a little more than 12% from people in their 30s.

     

    But also note the restrictions:

    To give blood, volunteers must:

    ► Be healthy, with a normal pulse and blood pressure, and a normal temperature.

    ► Meet minimum age requirements in your state, typically 16 years old.

    ► Weigh at least 110 pounds.

    ► Be free of infections that can be transmitted through blood transfusion, or risk factors for the infections.
     
    The blood pressure limit is quite loose. Below 180/100 with medication allowed.
    https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical.html

    I have no idea of the demographics for the blood donors in this sample or in Denmark in general. If anyone does, please post.
  105. @Hail
    Easter is the greatest of our holidays. I can think of no more beautiful message than Easter's, of the Resurrection.

    Google has bowed to pro-Easter public pressure and is running, today, its most ambitious Easter celebration to date:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVa1QVTWAAcSiwd.jpg

    (See also, "Google Celebrates Easter," April 2015, iSteve.) (See also, Google's bold Easter doodles in 2013 and 2014.)

    Snopes actually has some worthwhile backstory on this. I don’t think I need to remind anyone here of this, but remember their bias while reading.
    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/google-doodle-ramadan-easter/

    It looks like their first Easter egg ; ) was in 2019 (excluding 2000 example below). This is apparently the policy.

    While Google traditionally avoids creating Doodles in honor of major religious holidays, a few exceptions exist. These religious Doodles are typically restricted to very specific locations. In 2006, for instance, a Google Doodle for Rosh Hashana was available to people in Israel. In 2008, a Doodle for Diwali was released in India. An Easter Google Doodle was on the search engine’s home page for users in the United States during the Christian holiday in 2000

    Here is that 2000 doodle.

    You can see it in their archive here:

    https://www.google.com/doodles/happy-easter-2000

  106. @Jack D
    First of all, my deepest condolences to you and your wife for your loss. Life behind the Iron Curtain was no piece of cake. Think of the struggles that Americans are suddenly experiencing with getting food, toilet paper, etc. and multiply those by 10 and have them last for 50 years and you'll have some idea of what they had to endure on a daily basis. Simple things that we take for granted like hot water coming from your faucet might disappear for months on end. Things that people in America would donate to the thrift store or leave at the curb having the status of rare luxuries requiring special connections to obtain. Not to mention the constant, gnawing fear - who is an informer? Will I be arrested for some imaginary ideological crime? My children disqualified from higher education and made into 2nd class citizens because of some offhand remark I make?

    I don't blame you for lashing out in your grief, but Steve is not the one who banned international travel. As he has pointed out, even on domestic routes where travel is still entirely legal, passengers have virtually disappeared of their own accord, no government action needed. Your anger is misplaced.

    2nd, as for Steve's financial arrangements with Ron, they are really none of your business. Donate or don't as you wish but I don't have the feeling that Steve is living in luxury. Last I heard he was (or up until recently had been) driving a very old car. He doesn't regale us with tales of his ski vacations in Switzerland. I just don't have the feeling he is rolling in dough. I have no idea how much Ron is paying him, but I don't have the feeling that it would be enough without donations too so that's probably why he asks. He has had the good taste not to ask in the middle of this crisis when there are people that are hurting even more.

    I think all of us are trying to weigh the balance of the value of lives lost in the short term vs the consequences of a lockdown. Clearly, some people would like to set the balance in a different way and the dynamics of modern life means that there has been some overreaction, but it's a good thing that our society puts a high value on human life. Circling back to your recently departed mother in law, a good way to live your life is to think " What would Ceaușescu do?" and then do the exact opposite in each case. If he were here today instead of in hell where he richly deserves to be, Ceaușescu would have the planes flying.

    Not to mention the constant, gnawing fear – who is an informer? Will I be arrested for some imaginary ideological crime? My children disqualified from higher education and made into 2nd class citizens because of some offhand remark I make?

    Between Twitter and Corona-chan, we are starting to get a taste of that here too.

  107. Hail says: • Website
    @Jack D

    So it’s Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a ‘Hapa,’ but in other pics looks not so much.
     
    If Zach Carter has ANY Asian blood, I'll eat his dog. He looks NOTHING like anyone with Asian blood that I've ever seen, in ANY picture. Not that it has any relevance to begin with. I've already noted that people on unz.com identify 10 out of ever 5 people whose politics they don't like as "Jewish" and this seems to be the equivalent.

    Jia, OTOH, is hilarious. “In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism" - sure you did, Jia. Maybe it's true and now she is making up for her past sins of omission.

    Zach Carter…looks NOTHING like anyone with Asian blood that I’ve ever seen

    Agreed.

    This was the HuffPost profile pic referred to:
    __
    At a glance it struck me as looking Central Asian, or a proxy for some kind of Central Asian (resulting in a comparable phenotype, as many part-E.Asian, part-Europeans have). I don’t think his other available pictures do this much or at all.

    Video of him speaking:

    [MORE]

    One eight years ago (from 3:55):

    And one from a few days ago (see 2:15):

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The shnozz alone disqualifies him from any E. Asian blood. I've never seen a Hapa with a snozz like that. He also looks like a person of pallor. OTOH, if you told me that he was a Mischling, I would buy that. Carter could walk into any Reform synagogue in America and no one would give him a 2nd glance. In fact other than the light colored eyes (which some of my relatives have but I don't) he bears a passing resemblance to a younger me.

    Central Asians might have a blend of Caucasian and Asian genes but they don't look like modern European/Asian crosses nor do they look like Carter.
  108. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    My condolences to your wife and family, Buzz. I am sorry to hear it.

  109. @syonredux
    Contest to kill 100 people using a sword

    The Contest to Kill 100 People Using A Sword (百人斬り競争, hyakunin-giri kyōsō) was a contest between Toshiaki Mukai and Tsuyoshi Noda, two Japanese Army officers, which took place during the Japanese invasion of China. The goal of the contest was to see who could kill 100 people the fastest while using a sword.
     

    In 1937, the Osaka Mainichi Shimbun and its sister newspaper, the Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shimbun covered a contest between two Japanese officers, Toshiaki Mukai (向井敏明) and Tsuyoshi Noda (野田毅), in which the two men were described as vying with one another to be the first to kill 100 people with a sword. The competition supposedly took place en route to Nanking, prior to the infamous Nanking Massacre, and was covered in four articles from November 30, 1937, to December 13, 1937; the last two being translated in the Japan Advertiser.
     

    Both officers supposedly surpassed their goal during the heat of battle, making it difficult to determine which officer had actually won the contest. Therefore (according to the journalists Asami Kazuo and Suzuki Jiro, writing in the Tokyo Nichi-Nichi Shimbun of December 13), they decided to begin another contest with the goal of 150 kills.[6] The Nichi Nichi headline of the story of December 13 read "'Incredible Record' [in the Contest to] Behead 100 People—Mukai 106 – 105 Noda—Both 2nd Lieutenants Go Into Extra Innings".
     

    Other soldiers and historians have noted the unlikelihood of the lieutenants' alleged heroics, which entailed killing enemy after enemy in fierce hand-to-hand combat.[4] Noda himself, on returning to his hometown, admitted this during a speech.
     

    "Actually, I didn't kill more than four or five people in hand-to-hand combat ... We'd face an enemy trench that we'd captured, and when we called out, "Ni, Lai-Lai!" (You, come here!), the Chinese soldiers were so stupid, they'd rush toward us all at once. Then we'd line them up and cut them down, from one end of the line to the other. I was praised for having killed a hundred people, but actually, almost all of them were killed in this way. The two of us did have a contest, but afterwards. I was often asked whether it was a big deal, and I said it was no big deal ..."[7]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest_to_kill_100_people_using_a_sword

    Seems fake to to me. Just more atrocity propaganda so Chinese can continue to do what they do without any qualms, because they are the oppressed! Straight out of the Jewish textbook, they don’t call them “Jews of the East” for nothing.

  110. Anonymous[130] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alfa158
    I think you’re missing an important point. People like Jia do not consider themselves to be merely living in an imperialist metropole. They are here with the intent of colonizing the imperialist metropole, replacing the imperialist inhabitants, and terraforming it into a society that fits them and works for their benefit. They aren’t (((alone))) in this enterprise and they are almost certainly going to succeed. You are like an Iroquois asking himself why all these White people would want to sail all the way across the Great Water to live in a continent that is wilderness and populated with Indians.

    People like Jia do not consider themselves to be merely living in an imperialist metropole. They are here with the intent of colonizing the imperialist metropole, replacing the imperialist inhabitants, and terraforming it into a society that fits them and works for their benefit.

    No, East Asians have a planetary mindset. Wherever they go, they revolve around and serve what is most powerful and prestigious. So, while Chinese in China may into the China as Middle Kingdom, Chinese outside China could be totally servile to and revolve around whatever happens to be most prestigious and powerful.

    This is where East Asians are different from Jews who have a solar mindset. No matter how small in number, poor, weak, and starting out in a new place, they see themselves as the center of the universe around whom all of humanity must revolve. For the Chinese, the concept of Middle Kingdom is connected to the land. They are the Big Boss in China. Outside China, they look to serve the New Big Boss. In contrast, whether in Tel Aviv, New York, Los Angeles, London, Paris, Moscow, or etc. Jews feel humanity must revolve around and serve them.

    In Southeast Asia, Chinese maintain their Chinese-ness because they have little respect for the natives who are lower in IQ and achievement. But look at Chinese(and other East Asians) in the West, and they suck up to the power in a servile way. It may true that Chinese immigrants still have some sense of link to the old country, but the young ones almost completely lose their identity in no time. Same with Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, and etc. Or look at pathetic Hong Kong. Chinese people who’ve grown so used to being part of the great Western Empire that they wave the US flag during protests.

    Consider some of the prominent East Asian-American thinkers. Francis Fukuyama is of Japanese ancestry but a total toady to globalism and Zionism. While Jews in US do everything to serve Israel’s power, survival, and interests, Fukuyama as emissary of his Jewish Masters goes to Japan and other Asian countries and urges mass immigration, globo-homo, and deracination. Japan has frighteningly low birth rates. A Japanese-American who cares about survival of Japan might look to Israel and Hungary as examples of sound and effective natal policy, but Fukuyama just serves his masters and calls for More Diversity for Japan, something Jews would NEVER do with Israel. Or take Amy Chua. She is married to a Jew and raising Jewish kids whose main loyalty is to Zion.

    The only three people with a kind of solar-centric view of themselves are now Jews, Hindus, and blacks. Jews because of their Covenant tradition. Hindus because of their own kind of ethno-religion. (Christianity is universalist, therefore undermines identity. Confucianism is ancestral and loses its meaning and pull in the modern world of nuclear families and/or atomized individualism.) And blacks think they be ‘badass’, so everyone should carry their jockstraps.
    Whites used to have a solar-centric view based on Christianity, Reason, and Race. There was a time when Christianity was almost synonymous with white power. But as it spread to non-whites all over, it is no longer particularly white. Reason also used to be the basis of white pride and power as the West pioneered rationalism and science in contrast to the Rest that was mired in customs, mysticism, and superstition. But as Reason(and even democracy) spread all over the world, it is no longer particularly white either. There was the element of Race, the view that whites are special as a people. But as ‘racism’ became the biggest sin in the West, it is NOT okay to be white.
    So now, both whites and East Asians in the West have planetary identities that revolve around those with Solar Will(though Hindus don’t count yet in terms of power and prestige). So, in a way, the white dumping on Asians is a clash of planets. Whites, as they revere and serve the Jewish Sun, dare not speak against Jewish Power even though much of the white plight can be traced to Jewish Power. But you don’t blame god or the sun. Suppose this virus came out of Israel. Would Trump and his followers be calling it the Jewish, Zionist, or Israeli flu or virus? Of course not. Do ‘conservatives’ have the guts to refer to HIV as Africa or Homo disease? No. They don’t even have the courage and honesty to call Iraq War, Libya War, Syrian War, and etc by their proper name: “Wars for Israel”.

    So, while criticism of how China handled this disease in the early stage is warranted — and its possible link to wet markets and lack of food inspection in China — , the way it’s been done is a really a show of cowardice than courage. It’s like Trump dumping on Muslims and Mexicans in 2016 while never mentioning that Jewish Power is the #1 force of Open Borders in EU and the US. It’s like Trump calling Mexicans ‘rapists’ when the biggest rapists are blacks. Also, Jewish Power has been derailing his Presidency forever, even getting him impeached, but he is still in Syria and has Soleimani killed. And his minions cheer. And there is Tucker who calls China evil for its ethno-nationalism but in the next breath praises Israel for its national, border, and security policies.

    Also, people like Jia don’t understand that this is about Power, not right or wrong. After WWII and especially after the end of the C0ld War, the US has gotten used to being the Lone Superpower. Indeed, even more so because Jewish Power now governs the US. Why does this matter? If US hadn’t become so obeisant to Jewish Power and Israel, its sense of national interest would be focused on America itself. This was the case with men like Charles Lindbergh and the ‘Arabists’ who were once influential in US foreign policy. These people(who were both ‘left’ and ‘right’) were essentially post-imperialist and believed the US should focus on American issues. Therefore, the US should deal with the world pragmatically to pursue what is best for America. So, America should try to come to terms with any nation to live in peace and to trade. If such people were in power, there would be no need for antagonism with Iran or Russia. Just trade with them and get along. Anglo-Americans who once ruled America has no stake in Russia, Iran, or etc. They just had business interests around the world that could be accommodated through diplomacy.
    For such people, a multi-polar world is tolerable AS LONG AS Americans pursue American Interests in America. In contrast, Jews have direct stakes all over the world. They’ve gained key power in every Western European nation and many Eastern European nations. Especially with the creation of Israel, Jews are very mindful of power balance in North Africa and Middle East. Anglos never regarded Russia as part of their empire. Anglos were sometimes at odds with Russia but never thought to take it over. In contrast, Jews do want to takeover Russia, Poland, Hungary, Germany, France, and etc as globalist elites, which is why they promote globo-homo to use homos in every nation as their well-paid proxies. So, unlike Anglos who wanted to come to terms with and trade with other nations, Jews want to take over and control other nations. If not for Jewish Power in the US, would America be bitterly upset that Russia said NO to globo-homo? Because Jews rule the US and because Jews want it their way in Russia, Poland, Hungary, and MENA, they believe the US must be the lone superpower that isn’t challenged by any nation in any part of the world. So, Russia has to be provoked and pressured in Ukraine of all places, a nation that is so close and vital to Russia but has NO rational purpose to the US. In 25 yrs, it will be a 100 yr anniversary of the end of WWII, but incredibly, the US military is still in Japan, South Korea, and encircling China from all sides. (And yet, China is the big bad aggressor.)

    It’s understandable why people like Jia(and others all over the world) came to the US. Cleaner air, less repression, more individual freedom, and as yet, less corruption than in places in China, India etc. But they need to understand that the US, as vessel of Jewish supremacism, is the #1 force of evil in the world in terms of cultural pollution, neo-imperialism, near-genocidal policies in Middle East, utmost hypocrisy, and total amnesia. That’s what they are serving.
    As for the NYT and its supposed ‘liberal’ Jews, they are the worst. On the one hand, Jewish Power has inflamed ‘yellow peril’ fears in movies, TV shows, and etc. Jewish-controlled Media ran with China-Dragon-Rising stories endlessly. And yet, these same Jews also play the Nice Guy and hug Asians as poor victims and bullies of Big Bad Trump. Jews did the same with Muslims. Hollywood made all these Muslims-are-terrorist movies over decades, but all of a sudden, they were best friends with Muslims against Trump and those ‘Islamophobes’, all the while pressuring Trump to remain in Syria and wreak more havoc against Arabs who defy Zionist Power.
    Anglos handed over their power to Jewish globalists. White Consciousness today is nothing but “how to appease Jews”. Whites are surely upset about trends going against them, but one doesn’t challenge one’s Master. Even when a dog is beaten by its master, its wish is to win his approval. Whites are beaten most by Jews, but as Jews are the Master, whites cannot bark truth to the Master. So, what do whites do? They cozy up to the Master ever more in shows of rage and animus at targets that they believe will please the master. If the master kicks you, go hunt a rabbit and drop it at the master’s feet in hope of approval. This is what Trump does. Whipped by Jews from day one, he goes hunting for Iran to win approval from Zionists. Tormented by Jews endlessly, he says troops will remain in Iraq and steal oil. Impeached by Democrats funded by Jews, the dog Trump bags Soleimani. Vilified by Jews, he signs legislation to shut down BDS. In this, he’s no different than John McCain. Given what the Jewish media did to him in 2008, you’d think McCain would have grown a pair. But no, to his dying day, he was growling at Russia, Iran, Syria, and Trump to win approval from his Master.

    This is America, and this is why people like Jia are stupid to think justice and fairness are possible in a nation where a Christian baker is now being sued for… not baking a Tranny Transition Cake.
    Of course, as a ‘good liberal’ and mental minion of Jewish ‘liberals’, I’m sure Jia is on the globo-homo bandwagon and screaming ‘Bake the Cake Bigot’. Ironically, even as Jia condemns American bigotry, Jia has something in common with Americans: The cowardly unwillingness to name the main culprit of why the US became such an evil force in the world: Jewish supremacist power.

    • Agree: Miro23
    • Disagree: Corvinus
    • Replies: @Jack D
    Tl:dr Jews bad.
  111. “Racist” MAGA hat wearing trump supporter inspired by Trump calling corana the “Chinese virus” stabs Chinamen in a Walmart.

    Guess tha ethny of the “racist”.

    Texas racist says coronavirus fears made him stab an Asian American family as they grocery shopped

    …being investigated as a possible hate crime
    …19-year-old Sam’s Club employee Jose Gomez allegedly stabbed three Asian American family members, including a 2-year-old and a 6-year-old
    …just one example of the many cases of xenophobia Asian Americans are experiencing
    …President Donald Trump has repeatedly referred to COVID-19 as the “Chinese virus.”
    …Backlash against the administration continues for the repeated dehumanizing and xenophobic language that has caused harm to many Asian Americans.
    …Trump has failed to issue an apology for his influence in the rise of hate crimes

  112. @Hail
    To all remaining CoronaPanic-pusher holdouts:

    A new Danish study finds total mortality at 0.1% to 0.2% of those who get the virus.

    Since no virus ever achieves total, 100% population penetration, if the Danish study is correct this would imply an unchecked pandemic would cause a the total population loss attributable to the Wuhan Coronavirus Pandemic in the 0.05% to 0.1% range. Even this small hit could be softened with sensible measures to protect the elderly and infirm. No crippling 'shutdowns' needed.

    The anti-CoronaPanic side had been saying this all along, but were shouted down as the viral epidemic mutated into a Mass Hysteria Pandemic. CoronaDissidents like Dr. Ioannidis had been saying this all along, with his and many other voices emerging at cusp of the Big Mistake yelling 'For God's sake, Stop!' The Corona Coup D'Etat faction saw blood, so to speak; they took no prisoners, and burned it all down.

    This public-policy disaster, an ultra-hyped-up Apocalypse Virus that turned out to be a bad flu strain, the Corona Big Mistake, the Corona Coup D'Etat, demands answers. Who did this?
    .

    Also, with more and more data rolling in from independent studies, all corroborating an unchecked-epidemic @ <0.1% virus-attributable-population-loss finding, it's also worth stressing again that the victim profile is strongly skewed towards deathbed patients. With Hamburg's anti-CoronaPanic health authority now classifying half of the dead as deathbed-patients and thus not true coronavirus-caused deaths (breaking the spell of all corona-positive deaths being magic-wanded into corona-caused deaths), and almost all the rest were people with serious pre-existing conditions. A simplified-model demonstration of increased risk of death per year from this minor flu pandemic, by age-and-condition category, shows how insignificant it really was for society, and how bad a mistake the CoronaShutdowns were.

    (The numbers used above are for demonstration purposes, a simplified-reality framework in which society is modeled on three groups, the Healthy, the Unhealthy/Very-Aged, and the Terminal Patients; the data that keeps rolling in continues to corroborate those numbers are ballpark-correct.)

    If findings of the accumulating studies out of France, Japan, Germany, Iceland, Denmark, and others , as well as the best estimates of independent experts, are correct, it means genuine coronavirus deaths for all except the category Terminal Patients will be comparable to car accident deaths at mid-late 20th century levels. Maybe a little worse than car accident deaths, but not by much.

    Given that a very large share of coronavirus-positive deaths were statistically likely to die in 2020 anyway, it is unlikely that 2020 total deaths will increase in any noticeable way.

    A new Danish study finds total mortality at 0.1% to 0.2% of those who get the virus.

    Thanks for the link. Are you familiar with the concept of “selection bias”? If not, please read this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias

    From the English translation of that article (emphasis mine):

    If we adjust for the test to not work perfectly and assume that the blood donors are representative of the entire population, it is equivalent to 127,000 people in Denmark having been infected.

    Thus, when 203 Danes are declared dead today with coronavirus, it gives a mortality of 0.16 percent – or 1.6 per thousand.

    But blood donations are not representative of the entire population because they are generally healthier than the total population.

    – Therefore, the actual number infected throughout the Danish population may well be greater, says Henrik Ullum, who emphasizes that the figures are preliminary and must be read with caution.

    Blood donors come to donate blood and are healthy and healthy. Therefore, we may underestimate how many have been infected. We can also overestimate it if they have traveled more or been more ill than the background population, says Henrik Ullum.

    That article is consistent with data estimating the mortality rate for younger people at around 0.2%. Especially when you consider the least healthy of those people are unlikely to be donating blood. See this comment and underlying data:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/san-diego-neighborhood-case-rates/#comment-3816590
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

    80+ years old 14.8%
    70-79 years old 8.0%
    60-69 years old 3.6%
    50-59 years old 1.3%
    40-49 years old 0.4%
    30-39 years old 0.2%
    20-29 years old 0.2%
    10-19 years old 0.2%
    0-9 years old no fatalities

    In my comment I combine those numbers with US population demographics to get a raw CFR estimate of 1.85% which I then divided by two (for asymptomatic cases) to get an IFR estimate of a bit under 1%.

    In fairness, I did a bit more research. In the US the age demographics of blood donors actually skew older.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2017/09/24/loyal-blood-donors-age-industry-out-young-blood/683714001/

    Overall, nearly 60% of blood donations come from people over 40 — and nearly 45% come from people older than 50, according to the AABB, an international non-profit focused on transfusion medicine and cellular therapies.

    for nearly a decade, blood banks have focused on recruiting teens and young adults, often through high school and college blood drives.

    The tactic has been successful: Kids in the youngest age groups — 16-18 and 19-22 — now account for about 20% of all donations.

    But that’s not enough to compensate for lower turnout among people in their late 20s and 30s who can be harder to reach, more mobile and less inclined to donate than other generations. Fewer than 10% of blood donations come from people ages 23-29, with a little more than 12% from people in their 30s.

    But also note the restrictions:

    To give blood, volunteers must:

    ► Be healthy, with a normal pulse and blood pressure, and a normal temperature.

    ► Meet minimum age requirements in your state, typically 16 years old.

    ► Weigh at least 110 pounds.

    ► Be free of infections that can be transmitted through blood transfusion, or risk factors for the infections.

    The blood pressure limit is quite loose. Below 180/100 with medication allowed.
    https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical.html

    I have no idea of the demographics for the blood donors in this sample or in Denmark in general. If anyone does, please post.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    I then divided by two (for asymptomatic cases)
     
    What basis do you have for saying that 50% of all cases are asymptomatic?

    One of the problems with going by CFR in the case of Covid is that until the pandemic has burned thru the entire population and herd immunity is achieved, the fact that fatalities differ so greatly based on age (and race correlated comorbidities) means that mortality of Wuhan Virus varies greatly by locations depending on where the epidemic starts - in a nursing home, very high. In a college dorm, not high at all (so low that no one even takes note of the "epidemic". The spotty nature of the epidemic means that averaging does not occur.
  113. There were a few small acts of sabotage in Hawaii and along the West Coast carried out by Japanese right after December 7. All forgotten today.

    Roughly half of the “Japanese Americans” sent to internment camps were not American citizens but Japanese nationals

    Lastly compare how “enemy aliens” were treated by the other combatant nations of WW2.

    • Replies: @res
    It is good to inject some nuance into the internment discussion.

    There were a few small acts of sabotage in Hawaii and along the West Coast carried out by Japanese right after December 7. All forgotten today.
     
    I don't doubt that is true, but do you have any details? One of the proudly cited talking points we see is "No person of Japanese ancestry living in the United States was ever convicted of any serious act of espionage or sabotage during the war."
    I got that from https://www.nps.gov/articles/historyinternment.htm but a quick search shows similar text is common.

    Some other details.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/22/us/1941-cables-boasted-of-japanese-american-spying.html
    Another version of that:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00552R000202030026-8.pdf

    Roughly half of the “Japanese Americans” sent to internment camps were not American citizens but Japanese nationals
     
    I am surprised how little this is discussed. It seems like a rather important distinction. This page seems to indicate citizens were more like two thirds:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
    Do you have a source for roughly half?

    Lastly compare how “enemy aliens” were treated by the other combatant nations of WW2.
     
    Indeed. It might be good to gather together a list of examples for the next time this topic comes up. Do you have good examples? Because when I search those examples are overwhelmed by the evils of the US.

    P.S. This page looks worthwhile:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_spies,_1930%E2%80%9345

    This example was pre-WWII but makes clear what was going on:

    Toshio Miyazaki – Imperial Japanese Navy agent who recruited the American Harry Thomas Thompson as a secret agent in San Diego.
     
    This looks highly relevant, but has no citation:

    - The Black Dragon Society, the Kaigun Kyokai (Navy League), or the Hoirusha Kai (Military Service Man's League), and other similar societies. These Japanese secret groups were well known to the US Naval Intelligence Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the subversive actions in the United States among some elements of Doho communities.
    - Other overseas Japanese agents of Black Dragon Society were the so-called "soshi" (Brave Knights). At the same time, referring to superior commander as the "Darkside Emperor" mentioned agents since the 1940s, operating worldwide, as far away as North America, South America, and Morocco. They formed covert ties with the Nazis.

     

    It looks like this page (now disappeared) was the source for that:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20090304024922/http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/bds1.htm

    This page claims: https://wargaming.com/en/news/japanese_kempeitai/

    The Black Dragons were active along the Pacific Coast of North and South America.
     
  114. @Anon
    This guy claims China is abruptly kicking blacks out, and that this is being suppressed by the media.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1249020191549390848

    My suspicion is that Chinese officials read US reports about the disproportionately high Covid-19 infection/death rate among blacks, along with notices that blacks refuse to obey social distancing rules due to their cultural proclivities, and the Chinese have decided that blacks are too much trouble to have in their country right now.

    disproportionately high Covid-19 infection/death rate among blacks

    Blacks vote D. Majority black cities are run by looney Marxist D’s who are all in on the Coronascam and they fudge the numbers more. Making white males employed in the private sector shelter in place and not go to their jobs benefits them. Majority white cities are less sympathetic to the whole enterprise and are more reluctant to fudge the numbers.

  115. @Hail

    Zach Carter...looks NOTHING like anyone with Asian blood that I’ve ever seen
     
    Agreed.

    This was the HuffPost profile pic referred to:
    _
    https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5c112f5024000031008c49d0.png
    _
    At a glance it struck me as looking Central Asian, or a proxy for some kind of Central Asian (resulting in a comparable phenotype, as many part-E.Asian, part-Europeans have). I don't think his other available pictures do this much or at all.

    Video of him speaking:

    One eight years ago (from 3:55):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_F42ty6nmg

    And one from a few days ago (see 2:15):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk7UPfVCW58

    The shnozz alone disqualifies him from any E. Asian blood. I’ve never seen a Hapa with a snozz like that. He also looks like a person of pallor. OTOH, if you told me that he was a Mischling, I would buy that. Carter could walk into any Reform synagogue in America and no one would give him a 2nd glance. In fact other than the light colored eyes (which some of my relatives have but I don’t) he bears a passing resemblance to a younger me.

    Central Asians might have a blend of Caucasian and Asian genes but they don’t look like modern European/Asian crosses nor do they look like Carter.

  116. @ConfirmationBias
    I get the pussyfooting around mentioning the race of the perpetrators that liberal publications tend to do - not denying that - just saying that this particular article isn’t actually hating on white people. I read it and didn’t feel it had that flavor; it did discuss some collective communal need to be accepted by the white majority (which really was the majority in the 70s/80s), but again it didn’t read like resentment or hatred to me... just matter of fact.

    As for the alias... we all have our biases don’t we :) this blog is probably one of the very few ones I read that’s so fundamentally different from where I typically get my news, on numerous fronts, but that’s also precisely why I enjoy it. It’s thought-provoking and exposes me to things, including value-judgments and commentary, that I probably wouldn’t come across otherwise.

    As for self projection... I don’t know. I don’t think so in this case, but in many cases, sure one’s biases get in the way. We all want to believes in a world that squares with our underlying belief systems, and often we see what we want to see. But perhaps with practice and exposure and comfort with being uncomfortable, we (I) get a little better at seeing things as they are... even if they aren’t always as we’d like them to be.

    Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Given your obvious serious engagement with that comment I was overly hard on you personally in my earlier response. Sorry. I am more calibrated to dealing with trolls who say things like that and sometimes I misjudge.

    I don’t know if hatred is always the right word, but I think it is hard to deny articles like that convey a feeling of resentment towards the white majority (otherwise, why not even a token effort towards something like: “relative to most places we do well here, but we should strive to do even better”). And some rather serious tone deafness to how that sounds to the people of a country which has welcomed the author to live among us. As other commenters have mentioned, there is also the rather silly idea of pan-Asian unity (which only happens in a place where combined they form a small minority, as far as I can tell anyway). That gives a clear us and them sense to the article. How can you forgive the Rape of Nanking (against your own Chinese) while treating the WWII internment of Japanese as unforgivable?

    On reflection, rather than projection I would just say you are still willing to give authors of articles like that the benefit of the doubt. I have lost my patience in that regard. I guess the question is which of those biases gives the more accurate view of the world.

    P.S. And please stick around. We can use more thoughtful comments coming from different perspectives. To me that is what beneficial diversity is really about.

    • Replies: @LoutishAngloQuebecker

    I don’t know if hatred is always the right word
     
    I agree actually. I have several good friends who are POC. We discuss issues like this. They all say that the POCs don't "hate" whites. They don't like us and think we're weak and naive. But really it's just natural tribal instinct. I don't "hate" Asians, or Arabs, or blacks either. But I dislike them as a group and would prefer to live only with my own group.

    Basically, multiculturalism is a failure, it's against God's will and will lead to conflict. But I do think that what we perceive as their "hate" is just a normal in-group strategy that everybody has (and whites had this too up until around the 1960s).
  117. @nebulafox
    "One Mighty and Irresistible Tide."

    Note the wording here: implies that mass immigration is something inevitable, akin to a force of nature, rather than a policy choice.

    “One Mighty and Irresistible Tide.”

    Sounds destructive and inconvenient, like a molasses flood or explosive diarrhea.

    It also harkens back to Lothrop Stoddard’s prescient title:

    The Rising Tide of Color: The Threat Against White World-Supremacy

  118. @Hail
    Who is JIA LYNN YANG:

    https://hailtoyou.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jia-lynn-yang-feb-2017-mit-center-for-intl-studies.png

    (Feb. 2017 pic, speaking at an anti-Muslim-Ban symposium in which she was invited as a Washington Post immigration-policy expert.)

    ______________

    From a Sept. 2017 feature in the New York Times introducing Jia Lynn Yang as the new NYT National Desk Deputy Editor:

    Jia Lynn Yang ... has been Washington Post’s deputy national security editor since 2015
     

    A native of Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn grew up spending summers with her extended family in Los Angeles, which taught her that the best food in America can be found in the dullest of strip malls. [...]

    Jia Lynn graduated from Yale with a B.A. in philosophy [2004] and a love of journalism developed at the Yale Daily News, where one of her editors was a smooth-talking guy named Michael Barbaro.
     
    Is that line about Michael Barbaro supposed to imply they are in a relationship, married, or what? Strange line. (It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish and a New York Times'er since 2005. Last word is he has defected from the full-Gay camp is is planning to marry a woman, after years of marriage to a man.)

    ______________

    From a July 2015 feature at the Wash. Post that introduced Jia Lynn Yang there as new deputy national security editor:

    Born [Dec. 1982] and raised in Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn joined the Post in 2010 as a reporter covering the intersection of business and policy. She also worked from Hong Kong on the Edward Snowden story after he was identified as the leaker of NSA documents to The Post and The Guardian. Her story on IBM’s relationship to its hometown was included in the Columbia Journalism Review’s anthology of “The Best Business Writing 2014.” She also contributed to a series on income inequality that was a finalist for a Gerald Loeb Award in explanatory reporting.

    Before joining the Post, Jia Lynn spent five years at Fortune magazine. She majored in philosophy at Yale, where she graduated in 2004, and lives in Adams Morgan with her husband, Zach Carter, a journalist for The Huffington Post.
     
    So it's Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a 'Hapa,' but in other pics looks not so much.

    They're still together, if Twitter is any indication:

    [Zach Carter Retweeted]

    Jia Lynn Yang
    @jialynnyang
    Apr 12

    "In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism because it had been drilled into me early on that racism against Asians didn’t exist."

    This is a powerful, unflinching essay from @cathyparkhong.

    Thank goodness for her voice right now.
     

    Zach Carter [Verified]
    @zachdcarter
    Mar 31

    I don’t know who still needs to hear this, but my wife’s book is a masterpiece. Starred review in Booklist: “
     
    https://twitter.com/zachdcarter/status/1245132152859131904

    They have a dog.

    “ It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish ”

    He’s had one male spouse and is now engaged to a woman, so half gay. Also half Jewish, Barbaro’s father is Italian-American.

    Ronan Farrow appears to be another half-gay half jewish journalist, but this depends on Woody’s iffy paternity.

    • Replies: @black sea

    He’s had one male spouse and is now engaged to a woman, so half gay. Also half Jewish, Barbaro’s father is Italian-American.
     
    He'll soon be converting to Catholicism.
  119. At least a few Japanese-Americans in Hawaii aided downed Japanese Imperial Navy fliers after they bombed Pearl Harbor.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niihau_incident

    Oh, and Japanese weren’t the only enemy ethnic group interned during WW2. About 10k Germans were interned as well. But for some reason no one can remember them. Doesn’t help the racism and victim narrative maybe.

    Nisei were famous for fighting in the US Army in Europe. Less well known is thousands of American Nisei fought for Imperial Japan.

    Weird.

  120. Wow. The Oppression Olympics continue: just when it looked like the Africans were getting the upper hand, the “Asians” come back with a strong response.

    Frankly there’s no reason any East Asian should be living in the West (other than invasion). They have their own countries, and they’re nice/decent. Japanese, South Koreans, Taiwanese, etc. immigrants are quite rare in the USA, just like German, British, and French immigrants are too.

    Almost all Chinese are completely loyal to the CCP and should be viewed as hostile invaders. The first thing that must be done is cancelling Chinese student visas.

  121. Here’s what you do if anyone on twitter calls you a racist for using the phrase “Chinese Corona Virus”: Call them a Chinese bot or point out that it’s morning in Wuhan or just tweet back something in Chinese.

  122. @Lot
    “ The Chinese government allowed 5 million residents to flee the city before they locked it down in January. ”

    The 5 million number I have repeated myself because it came from a credible local Wuhan government source and repeated in newspapers.

    It doesn’t appear to be correct however, and it seems suspicious given Wuhan’s population is 11 million. The AEI notes the total of all flights out of Wuhan in the prior 3 weeks had 400,000 people. Trains and cars also move people out of course, but some of those were people simply going through Wuhan or returning home after a short visit. And between poverty and lack of parking, I doubt most Wuhaners have cars.

    AEI thinks the better estimate is a little over a million fled Wuhan before the lockdown. That just makes a lot more sense, hard to imagine nearly half a major city’s population leaving in such a short time, even in a mass panic.

    I mention this because I love Tucker and don’t like seeing him make a mistake.

    Perhaps the 5 million number was meant to include travelers who visited or passed through Wuhan while the virus was raging. Not sure. But I agree, 40% of the permanent residents leaving a city the size of NYC hardly seems plausible.

  123. @ConfirmationBias
    This article is actually not hating on white people. The author talks about historical situations, and then says that current Asian Americans are being targeted during the coronavirus pandemic. I don’t see where the hatred is?

    This article is actually not hating on white people.

    Of course it is. The author complains about past restrictive immigration policies that favored whites, and how Asians had to ‘prove’ themselves to whites to gain full citizenship.

    Ironically, her cited ‘American’ hero Mike Masaoka proved himself to be an anti-American Trojan Horse insurgent—he was not satisfied with Asian-Americans being accepted as an American citizens; he also ungratefully sought to import more Asians. Jia Lynn Yang:

    In the years that followed, a small group of Jewish lawmakers fought to abolish the quotas. In 1952, when Congress embarked on its most ambitious overhaul of the country’s immigration system in decades, they recognized their best opportunity in a generation.

    Masaoka joined the fray, lobbying for a provision that gave Asians the right to naturalize and for an easing of the nearly comprehensive ban on Asian immigration.

    Furthermore her book, despite her whining, has a triumphalist anti-white title:

    One Mighty and Irresistible Tide: The Epic Struggle Over American Immigration, 1924-1965

    • Agree: syonredux
    • Replies: @Jack D

    One Mighty and Irresistible Tide:
     
    Just lie back and enjoy it, America!
  124. @res
    Thank you for your thoughtful reply. Given your obvious serious engagement with that comment I was overly hard on you personally in my earlier response. Sorry. I am more calibrated to dealing with trolls who say things like that and sometimes I misjudge.

    I don't know if hatred is always the right word, but I think it is hard to deny articles like that convey a feeling of resentment towards the white majority (otherwise, why not even a token effort towards something like: "relative to most places we do well here, but we should strive to do even better"). And some rather serious tone deafness to how that sounds to the people of a country which has welcomed the author to live among us. As other commenters have mentioned, there is also the rather silly idea of pan-Asian unity (which only happens in a place where combined they form a small minority, as far as I can tell anyway). That gives a clear us and them sense to the article. How can you forgive the Rape of Nanking (against your own Chinese) while treating the WWII internment of Japanese as unforgivable?

    On reflection, rather than projection I would just say you are still willing to give authors of articles like that the benefit of the doubt. I have lost my patience in that regard. I guess the question is which of those biases gives the more accurate view of the world.

    P.S. And please stick around. We can use more thoughtful comments coming from different perspectives. To me that is what beneficial diversity is really about.

    I don’t know if hatred is always the right word

    I agree actually. I have several good friends who are POC. We discuss issues like this. They all say that the POCs don’t “hate” whites. They don’t like us and think we’re weak and naive. But really it’s just natural tribal instinct. I don’t “hate” Asians, or Arabs, or blacks either. But I dislike them as a group and would prefer to live only with my own group.

    Basically, multiculturalism is a failure, it’s against God’s will and will lead to conflict. But I do think that what we perceive as their “hate” is just a normal in-group strategy that everybody has (and whites had this too up until around the 1960s).

  125. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    And then follows graf after graf of distaff shrieking… Ironic.jpg

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it.

    Wow, Buzz, I had no idea Steve, from a bedroom closet in the Valley, has the power to shut down international travel and close borders… he could’ve stopped unwanted immigration the whole time—?

    WHAT THE FUCK STEVE why didn’t you do this earlier !?!?!*

    [MORE]

    *If Buzz is wrong about your omnipotent powers, Steve, I apologize. Happy Easter. 🙂

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    omnipotent powers
     
    In b4 Reg: Yes, his powers would be that powerful. ;)
  126. @Jack D
    I've often said that gratitude is something that you read about mostly in books and doesn't actually exist in real life (or only rarely). In fact, due to cognitive dissonance, people will tend to resent you if you help them. Being dependent on others is uncomfortable for most people so they will reconstruct reality such that they are not the objects of kindness but merely getting was is owed to them, or in fact LESS than they really deserve.

    In fact, due to cognitive dissonance, people will tend to resent you if you help them. Being dependent on others is uncomfortable for most people so they will reconstruct reality such that they are not the objects of kindness but merely getting was is owed to them, or in fact LESS than they really deserve.

    Jack usually I have a different view from you. But you really nailed it here.

  127. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    Steve has been drifting away from Team Shutdown the last two weeks. He’s questioned particular aspects of the shutdown and wants to start reopening things based on hard data.

    My view was at the time, with the info we had in early March, shutdowns were the right move.

    Now thanks to a lot more info, I switched over to Team Reopen. Steve basically has too, and much of the right is moving there as well.

    CV has been a strange virus that seems to have caused a lot of damage in a few towns in Italy and Spain, plus the New York area, and can kill off a big part of nursing homes in a matter of weeks. Everywhere else, it’s a bad seasonal flu. Getting things right with conflicting information like that isn’t easy.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    A lot of us seem to have followed that same trajectory, Lot.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I noticed, Lot, that you left off TWMWMNBN. ("WM" if for (((Web Master))), of course.)

    Ron Unz been a silly stubborn math-modeling-maniac about this Kung Flu. OTOH, he has let both sides on this "Corona Soft Coup d’Etat"* publish articles. That is very admirable.

    He is wrong.
    There will be no apologies.
    That is all.

    .

    PS: And to Buzz, I don't agree about Steve Sailer (to me, like Mr. Unz even, he's been just searching for truth - yes, in all the wrong places), but I am sorry for your loss and the anguish from not being able to get to Romania.
    .

    * Term coined by commenter/blogger Mr. Hail.

  128. @anonymous

    The most strident voices after Pearl Harbor against Japanese-Americans tended to be from their fellow Asian-Americans, such as the Chinese and, especially, the Filipinos. But who can remember which nations were on which side in World War II?
     
    Maybe she found that Japanese-authored game, "Toss the China Baby on the Bayonet" game to be as exciting as the Japanese did. The Japs were great at that, I would surmise, because of lots and lots and lots of practice. Another popular game the Japs excelled at in Nanking was "Rape, Burn, Die."

    The object of that game is to catch a Chinese girl, rape her as much as her vagina would permit, set her on fire, and then watch her die.

    The game was so... Samurai.

    Of course, Japanese folk resist bragging about it now, owing to Japanese humility, I'm supposing.

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck. I guess the same pluck required to use her substantial incisors to tear into a boiled batwing. That is, it must be a Chinese thing, us white people will never understand.

    Or maybe... some cultures are better than others. 🤔

    Please, remember your history:

    When the U.S. Marines reached Nanking, their brutality continued. They burned down the city’s walls, the people’s homes, the surrounding forests, and even whole villages situated in their path. They looted nearly every building they could find, stealing from the poor and the rich alike. They then slaughtered scores of people they happened upon. Some victims of the Nanking Massacre were thrown into mass, unmarked graves; others were just left to rot in the sun.

    To the invading marines, the Rape of Nanking was sometimes even a game. Life magazine bragged about a contest between two officers, Haven Monahan and Auggie Schmidt, who had challenged one another in a race to see who could slaughter 100 people with their Bowie knives first.

    There’s a reason the Chinese hate us.

  129. @Trinity
    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks. Oh wait, Jewish Bolsheviks wrote and drew those comics. Never mind.

    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks. Oh wait, Jewish Bolsheviks wrote and drew those comics. Never mind.

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
    Actually, the "Captain America (CA) Commie Smasher" phase of the CA identity existed only during a brief, 10-month span in 1953-54 which coincided with two congressional investigations: one into comic books and their impact on youth and the second on Communist infiltration by Senator McCarthy's committee.

    What later became Marvel Comics deployed the anti-Communist CA persona only until the threat from Capitol Hill abated. Then, in September of 1954, Captain America went back on the shelf until he was reinstated in 1964 with something much closer to his 1940s persona.

    In the 1970s, Marvel retconned the anti-communist persona:

    Marvel writers, "retroactively explained the character’s history, that the 1950s Cap and Bucky [Captain America's sidekick] had actually not been Rogers and Barnes but William Burnside and Jack Monroe, two men who had been obsessed with Cap and Bucky. Burnside found the original Super-Soldier Serum formula, made his own batch, and injected himself and Monroe with it. Burnside even went so far as to legally change his name to Steve Rogers and get plastic surgery to make himself look like Rogers. The serum eventually drove both men insane, a convenient explanation for Cap’s commie-smashing days."

    So the faux-anti-leftism that had been deployed temporarily to protect the comic book industry in the early 1950's was then, in the 1970s, transformed implicitly into a new anti-rightism.

    I wouldn't, however, use the term "Bolshevik" to describe the comic book ideologues. Frankfurt School cultural Marxist probably comes closer to the reality.

  130. @res

    A new Danish study finds total mortality at 0.1% to 0.2% of those who get the virus.
     
    Thanks for the link. Are you familiar with the concept of "selection bias"? If not, please read this:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selection_bias

    From the English translation of that article (emphasis mine):

    If we adjust for the test to not work perfectly and assume that the blood donors are representative of the entire population, it is equivalent to 127,000 people in Denmark having been infected.

    Thus, when 203 Danes are declared dead today with coronavirus, it gives a mortality of 0.16 percent - or 1.6 per thousand.

    But blood donations are not representative of the entire population because they are generally healthier than the total population.

    - Therefore, the actual number infected throughout the Danish population may well be greater, says Henrik Ullum, who emphasizes that the figures are preliminary and must be read with caution.

    Blood donors come to donate blood and are healthy and healthy. Therefore, we may underestimate how many have been infected. We can also overestimate it if they have traveled more or been more ill than the background population, says Henrik Ullum.

     

    That article is consistent with data estimating the mortality rate for younger people at around 0.2%. Especially when you consider the least healthy of those people are unlikely to be donating blood. See this comment and underlying data:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/san-diego-neighborhood-case-rates/#comment-3816590
    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

    80+ years old 14.8%
    70-79 years old 8.0%
    60-69 years old 3.6%
    50-59 years old 1.3%
    40-49 years old 0.4%
    30-39 years old 0.2%
    20-29 years old 0.2%
    10-19 years old 0.2%
    0-9 years old no fatalities
     
    In my comment I combine those numbers with US population demographics to get a raw CFR estimate of 1.85% which I then divided by two (for asymptomatic cases) to get an IFR estimate of a bit under 1%.

    In fairness, I did a bit more research. In the US the age demographics of blood donors actually skew older.
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2017/09/24/loyal-blood-donors-age-industry-out-young-blood/683714001/

    Overall, nearly 60% of blood donations come from people over 40 — and nearly 45% come from people older than 50, according to the AABB, an international non-profit focused on transfusion medicine and cellular therapies.
    ...
    for nearly a decade, blood banks have focused on recruiting teens and young adults, often through high school and college blood drives.

    The tactic has been successful: Kids in the youngest age groups — 16-18 and 19-22 — now account for about 20% of all donations.

    But that’s not enough to compensate for lower turnout among people in their late 20s and 30s who can be harder to reach, more mobile and less inclined to donate than other generations. Fewer than 10% of blood donations come from people ages 23-29, with a little more than 12% from people in their 30s.

     

    But also note the restrictions:

    To give blood, volunteers must:

    ► Be healthy, with a normal pulse and blood pressure, and a normal temperature.

    ► Meet minimum age requirements in your state, typically 16 years old.

    ► Weigh at least 110 pounds.

    ► Be free of infections that can be transmitted through blood transfusion, or risk factors for the infections.
     
    The blood pressure limit is quite loose. Below 180/100 with medication allowed.
    https://www.redcrossblood.org/donate-blood/how-to-donate/eligibility-requirements/eligibility-criteria-alphabetical.html

    I have no idea of the demographics for the blood donors in this sample or in Denmark in general. If anyone does, please post.

    I then divided by two (for asymptomatic cases)

    What basis do you have for saying that 50% of all cases are asymptomatic?

    One of the problems with going by CFR in the case of Covid is that until the pandemic has burned thru the entire population and herd immunity is achieved, the fact that fatalities differ so greatly based on age (and race correlated comorbidities) means that mortality of Wuhan Virus varies greatly by locations depending on where the epidemic starts – in a nursing home, very high. In a college dorm, not high at all (so low that no one even takes note of the “epidemic”. The spotty nature of the epidemic means that averaging does not occur.

    • Replies: @res

    What basis do you have for saying that 50% of all cases are asymptomatic?
     
    Testing in Iceland.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/europe/iceland-testing-coronavirus-intl/index.html

    One of the problems with going by CFR in the case of Covid is that until the pandemic has burned thru the entire population and herd immunity is achieved, the fact that fatalities differ so greatly based on age (and race correlated comorbidities) means that mortality of Wuhan Virus varies greatly by locations
     
    Agreed. That was one of the reasons for my age based analysis.
  131. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    Please accept condolences from the Badwhites, Buzz. I’m sorry for you and your wife’s loss.

  132. @Anonymous
    America is anti-Asian, so why is Jia in America paying taxes to support the imperialist US government that aids Zionist tyranny over Palestinians?

    The reason why US is anti-Asian is simple. Every nation needs some enemy. Due to PC taboo, Americans can't say anything about the three most destructive groups: Jews, blacks, homos.

    So, they dump all their rage on approved targets like Russia, Iran, and Asia.

    But Jia's ilk betrayed their own people by choosing to live in the Imperialist Metropole of the world.

    Why so surprised that the US is the way it is? It was founded om imperialism and genocide. And as if the great land and resources weren't enough, US had to take over Asian Pacific, destroy Palestine, and in 20 yrs wreck Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine, and wage new wars or sanctions on Russia and Iran. Hypocrisy and arrogance are baked into the American character.
    If Jia chose to live in such an imperialist metrople and write for NYT that supports Zionist tyranny, what utterl lack of self-awareness.

    The only thing worse than being a Chinese in a racist America built by bigoted Whites is being a Chinese not allowed to immigrate to a racist America built by bigoted Whites.

  133. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    This article is actually not hating on white people.
     
    Of course it is. The author complains about past restrictive immigration policies that favored whites, and how Asians had to ‘prove’ themselves to whites to gain full citizenship.

    Ironically, her cited ‘American’ hero Mike Masaoka proved himself to be an anti-American Trojan Horse insurgent—he was not satisfied with Asian-Americans being accepted as an American citizens; he also ungratefully sought to import more Asians. Jia Lynn Yang:

    In the years that followed, a small group of Jewish lawmakers fought to abolish the quotas. In 1952, when Congress embarked on its most ambitious overhaul of the country’s immigration system in decades, they recognized their best opportunity in a generation.

    Masaoka joined the fray, lobbying for a provision that gave Asians the right to naturalize and for an easing of the nearly comprehensive ban on Asian immigration.
     
    Furthermore her book, despite her whining, has a triumphalist anti-white title:

    One Mighty and Irresistible Tide: The Epic Struggle Over American Immigration, 1924-1965
     

    One Mighty and Irresistible Tide:

    Just lie back and enjoy it, America!

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Just lie back and enjoy it, America!
     
    You’re gonna set off a smoke detector with all that hand-rubbing.
  134. @GSR
    There were a few small acts of sabotage in Hawaii and along the West Coast carried out by Japanese right after December 7. All forgotten today.

    Roughly half of the "Japanese Americans" sent to internment camps were not American citizens but Japanese nationals


    Lastly compare how "enemy aliens" were treated by the other combatant nations of WW2.

    It is good to inject some nuance into the internment discussion.

    There were a few small acts of sabotage in Hawaii and along the West Coast carried out by Japanese right after December 7. All forgotten today.

    I don’t doubt that is true, but do you have any details? One of the proudly cited talking points we see is “No person of Japanese ancestry living in the United States was ever convicted of any serious act of espionage or sabotage during the war.”
    I got that from https://www.nps.gov/articles/historyinternment.htm but a quick search shows similar text is common.

    Some other details.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/22/us/1941-cables-boasted-of-japanese-american-spying.html
    Another version of that:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00552R000202030026-8.pdf

    Roughly half of the “Japanese Americans” sent to internment camps were not American citizens but Japanese nationals

    I am surprised how little this is discussed. It seems like a rather important distinction. This page seems to indicate citizens were more like two thirds:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
    Do you have a source for roughly half?

    Lastly compare how “enemy aliens” were treated by the other combatant nations of WW2.

    Indeed. It might be good to gather together a list of examples for the next time this topic comes up. Do you have good examples? Because when I search those examples are overwhelmed by the evils of the US.

    P.S. This page looks worthwhile:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_spies,_1930%E2%80%9345

    This example was pre-WWII but makes clear what was going on:

    Toshio Miyazaki – Imperial Japanese Navy agent who recruited the American Harry Thomas Thompson as a secret agent in San Diego.

    This looks highly relevant, but has no citation:

    – The Black Dragon Society, the Kaigun Kyokai (Navy League), or the Hoirusha Kai (Military Service Man’s League), and other similar societies. These Japanese secret groups were well known to the US Naval Intelligence Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the subversive actions in the United States among some elements of Doho communities.
    – Other overseas Japanese agents of Black Dragon Society were the so-called “soshi” (Brave Knights). At the same time, referring to superior commander as the “Darkside Emperor” mentioned agents since the 1940s, operating worldwide, as far away as North America, South America, and Morocco. They formed covert ties with the Nazis.

    It looks like this page (now disappeared) was the source for that:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20090304024922/http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/bds1.htm

    This page claims: https://wargaming.com/en/news/japanese_kempeitai/

    The Black Dragons were active along the Pacific Coast of North and South America.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    J Edgar Hoover wasn't in favor of mass internment:

    Hoover played a major role—though largely in the background—in the conflict between the Justice Department and War Department/army over the mass exclusion of Japanese Americans from the West Coast. After Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox made the inflammatory statements about fifth column work in Hawai'i in the days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, Hoover contradicted Knox, stating unequivocally that there had been no such sabotage. Though Hoover's statement was withheld for a time, it was made public after the Tolan Committee hearings. Hoover later reported to Attorney General Francis Biddle that the Western Defense Command's intelligence capabilities were marred by "[h]ysteria and lack of judgment."[1] On February 3, 1942 Hoover sent Biddle his assessment of the push for mass removal: "The necessity for mass evacuation is based primarily upon public and political pressure rather than on factual data."[2] Though he didn't necessarily believe all Japanese Americans were loyal, he did believe that there was no need for mass exclusion, especially given the FBI's prior arrest of those on the custodial detention list. Hoover had read—and largely concurred with—Kenneth Ringle's January 26, 1942 report and Ringle's and Curtis Munson's earlier recommendations (see Munson Report). Despite his presence at key meetings with the War Department and the esteem that the President held him in, Executive Order 9066 was signed and mass exclusion took place.
     
    http://encyclopedia.densho.org/J._Edgar_Hoover/#Japanese_American_Incarceration
    , @syonredux
    The Munson Report makes interesting reading:

    Intelligence report on Japanese Americans on the West Coast filed by businessman Curtis B. Munson in the weeks prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor at the request of presidential envoy John Franklin Carter. Based on first hand research and consultation with navy and Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, the report largely concluded that Japanese Americans presented no security risk.
     

    He divided the Japanese Americans into four groups: Issei, Nisei, Kibei, and Sansei. Dismissing the Sansei because they were mostly children, he focused on the other three groups.
     

    Of the Issei, he noted that they are "considerably weakened in their loyalty to Japan by the fact that they have chosen to make this their home and have brought up their children here." "They expect to die here," he wrote.[4] He described the Nisei as "universally estimated from 90 to 98 percent loyal to the United States if the Japanese-educated element of the Kibei is excluded. The Nisei are pathetically eager to show this loyalty. They are not Japanese in culture. They are foreigners to Japan." While conceding that the Kibei "are considered the most dangerous element," he also notes "that many of those who visited Japan subsequent to their early American education come back with added loyalty to the United States. In fact it is a saying that all a Nisei needs is a trip to Japan to make a loyal American out of him."[5]
     

    As for Japanese Americans being potential saboteurs, Munson makes the key point that they "are hampered as saboteurs because of their easily recognized physical appearance. It will be hard for them to get near anything to blow up if it is guarded."[6]
     

    He concludes, "As interview after interview piled up, those bringing in results began to call it the same old tune. The story was all the same. There is no Japanese 'problem' on the Coast. There will be no armed uprising of Japanese."[7]
     

    Subsequently, Munson, along with Carter and Kenneth Ringle of the Office of Naval Intelligence, recommended to the president what Michi Weglyn calls a "power-to-the-Nisei" policy, essentially giving them responsibility of policing the community: "The aim of this will be to squeeze control from the hands of the Japanese Nationals into the hands of the loyal Nisei who are American citizens.... It is the aim that the Nisei should police themselves, and as a result police their parents."[12]

     

    https://encyclopedia.densho.org/Munson_Report/




    Kenneth Ringle's work is also of interest:

    Kenneth Ringle (1900–63) was an Office of Naval Intelligence officer whose prewar investigation of the Japanese American community led him to conclude that Japanese Americans did not pose a security risk as a group and to oppose their mass removal and incarceration. He went on to work for the War Relocation Authority and authored a report on Japanese Americans that was later published anonymously in Harper's magazine in October of 1942.

     


    Beginning in July 1940, he served as the assistant district intelligence officer for the Eleventh Naval District in Los Angeles. With his knowledge of Japanese language and culture, he was assigned to assess Japanese American loyalty on the West Coast and to engage in counterespionage efforts, tasks he approached with gusto. He built a network of informants within the Japanese American community, particularly among members of the Japanese American Citizens League, whose members were flattered that a military official such as Ringle sought them out. He regularly attended JACL Southern District meetings and hosted a dinner for Southern California JACL chapters in March of 1941.[1] He also interviewed a range of others with knowledge about Japanese Americans and also met with presidential investigator Curtis Munson in the summer of 1941, serving as a key informant and influence on Munson's subsequent report.

     


    In June of 1941, Ringle led a late-night break in to the Japanese consulate in Los Angeles. This raid was accomplished with the cooperation of local police and the FBI and even included a safe cracker that they had pulled out of prison to assist on the job. Information gleaned from the raid included lists of members of a Japanese spy ring that led to the subsequent arrest of Itaru Tachibana. (See Tachibana Case.) These lists served as a key source for the compiling of ABC Lists of those to be arrested in the event of war with Japan.
     

    Based on information from the various sources noted above, Ringle submitted a report in January 1942 that vouched for Japanese American loyalty and argued against mass exclusion. He felt that the vast majority of Japanese Americans were at least "passively loyal" and that any potential saboteurs or enemy agents could be individually identified and imprisoned, as in fact most already had been by that time. He identified Kibei as "those persons most dangerous to the peace and security of the United States," but argued that other Nisei were regarded by Japanese agents as "cultural traitors" who could not be trusted and who thus posed no security threat.[2]
     
    https://encyclopedia.densho.org/Kenneth_Ringle/
  135. Japanese Americans interned in wartime = Orientals beaten up by blacks during a time of pandemic caused by a virus originating in the Orient ==> Evil whitey up to his usual tricks. Meanwhile, this what the Chinese did to perceived fifth columnists and interlopers in their midst in wartime:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yangzhou_massacre_(760)
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guangzhou_massacre
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boxer_Rebellion#Massacre_of_missionaries_and_Chinese_Christians

  136. Did some Easter data crunching. Looked at Coronavirus deaths per million population against latitude.

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

    Within the US, statewide correlations with death rate and latitude not terribly strong.

    But the national correlations between latitude of the capital and death rate per million is ***very strong***.

    I made a plot of latitudes of country capitals on the x-axis and coronavirus deaths per million on the y-axis. The correlation is incredibly strong.

    I limited myself to nations with significant testing — about 140 countries.

    There are zero nations whose capital is south of 30 north latitude with more than 20 deaths per million people. There are 25 nations whose capital is north of 30 north latitude with more than 20 deaths per million. The United States right now is at 65 deaths per million. South of the equator, zero nations exceed 7 deaths per million.

    Ten countries exceed 100 deaths from Coronavirus per million and every single one of them has a capital north of 40 latitude.

    DC is at 39 latitude and New York is at 41 latitude. There is an incredibly strong climate correlation with the coronavirus when you have a global amount of variation, but the United States just doesn’t give enough variation to properly show this. Generally the continental US is basically between 30 and 45 latitude, so the correlations of climate are not nearly as strong as what one sees globally.

    This suggests relief in the summer and a likely resurgence in the fall.

  137. @res
    It is good to inject some nuance into the internment discussion.

    There were a few small acts of sabotage in Hawaii and along the West Coast carried out by Japanese right after December 7. All forgotten today.
     
    I don't doubt that is true, but do you have any details? One of the proudly cited talking points we see is "No person of Japanese ancestry living in the United States was ever convicted of any serious act of espionage or sabotage during the war."
    I got that from https://www.nps.gov/articles/historyinternment.htm but a quick search shows similar text is common.

    Some other details.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/22/us/1941-cables-boasted-of-japanese-american-spying.html
    Another version of that:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00552R000202030026-8.pdf

    Roughly half of the “Japanese Americans” sent to internment camps were not American citizens but Japanese nationals
     
    I am surprised how little this is discussed. It seems like a rather important distinction. This page seems to indicate citizens were more like two thirds:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
    Do you have a source for roughly half?

    Lastly compare how “enemy aliens” were treated by the other combatant nations of WW2.
     
    Indeed. It might be good to gather together a list of examples for the next time this topic comes up. Do you have good examples? Because when I search those examples are overwhelmed by the evils of the US.

    P.S. This page looks worthwhile:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_spies,_1930%E2%80%9345

    This example was pre-WWII but makes clear what was going on:

    Toshio Miyazaki – Imperial Japanese Navy agent who recruited the American Harry Thomas Thompson as a secret agent in San Diego.
     
    This looks highly relevant, but has no citation:

    - The Black Dragon Society, the Kaigun Kyokai (Navy League), or the Hoirusha Kai (Military Service Man's League), and other similar societies. These Japanese secret groups were well known to the US Naval Intelligence Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the subversive actions in the United States among some elements of Doho communities.
    - Other overseas Japanese agents of Black Dragon Society were the so-called "soshi" (Brave Knights). At the same time, referring to superior commander as the "Darkside Emperor" mentioned agents since the 1940s, operating worldwide, as far away as North America, South America, and Morocco. They formed covert ties with the Nazis.

     

    It looks like this page (now disappeared) was the source for that:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20090304024922/http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/bds1.htm

    This page claims: https://wargaming.com/en/news/japanese_kempeitai/

    The Black Dragons were active along the Pacific Coast of North and South America.
     

    J Edgar Hoover wasn’t in favor of mass internment:

    Hoover played a major role—though largely in the background—in the conflict between the Justice Department and War Department/army over the mass exclusion of Japanese Americans from the West Coast. After Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox made the inflammatory statements about fifth column work in Hawai’i in the days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, Hoover contradicted Knox, stating unequivocally that there had been no such sabotage. Though Hoover’s statement was withheld for a time, it was made public after the Tolan Committee hearings. Hoover later reported to Attorney General Francis Biddle that the Western Defense Command’s intelligence capabilities were marred by “[h]ysteria and lack of judgment.”[1] On February 3, 1942 Hoover sent Biddle his assessment of the push for mass removal: “The necessity for mass evacuation is based primarily upon public and political pressure rather than on factual data.”[2] Though he didn’t necessarily believe all Japanese Americans were loyal, he did believe that there was no need for mass exclusion, especially given the FBI’s prior arrest of those on the custodial detention list. Hoover had read—and largely concurred with—Kenneth Ringle’s January 26, 1942 report and Ringle’s and Curtis Munson’s earlier recommendations (see Munson Report). Despite his presence at key meetings with the War Department and the esteem that the President held him in, Executive Order 9066 was signed and mass exclusion took place.

    http://encyclopedia.densho.org/J._Edgar_Hoover/#Japanese_American_Incarceration

    • Replies: @res
    Thanks. I also think the internment was excessive. But things like that happen during wartime. I guess my point of view boils down to: If that's the worst they have to say about us--I can live with that. How about the self righteous people coming from different cultures hold their own ancestors to the same standard and see what they find?

    An instructive comparison is Korean comfort women and how that has been treated since.

    It is also instructive to see the way counterpoints have been shut down.
    https://www.latimes.com/local/readers-rep/la-rr-travel-letters-response-20161212-story.html

    When I see things like that I start wondering about how fact based our current narrative on the internment is.

    I like Steve's take:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/forgotten-history-fdrs-persecution-of-italians-in-san-francisco/

    In retrospect, it turned out that all you had to do was ask Japanese people which side they were on. If they swore loyalty, you could rely on their oath. If they swore undying fealty to the Emperor, as about 5,000 did, well, you could rely on those guys to be a handful. The Japanese in 1940s America didn’t seem to have much concept of taqiyya.
     
    P.S. To tie this back into current events, I guess the lack of sabotage post-internment means the measure was successful.
  138. @Jack D

    I then divided by two (for asymptomatic cases)
     
    What basis do you have for saying that 50% of all cases are asymptomatic?

    One of the problems with going by CFR in the case of Covid is that until the pandemic has burned thru the entire population and herd immunity is achieved, the fact that fatalities differ so greatly based on age (and race correlated comorbidities) means that mortality of Wuhan Virus varies greatly by locations depending on where the epidemic starts - in a nursing home, very high. In a college dorm, not high at all (so low that no one even takes note of the "epidemic". The spotty nature of the epidemic means that averaging does not occur.

    What basis do you have for saying that 50% of all cases are asymptomatic?

    Testing in Iceland.
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/01/europe/iceland-testing-coronavirus-intl/index.html

    One of the problems with going by CFR in the case of Covid is that until the pandemic has burned thru the entire population and herd immunity is achieved, the fact that fatalities differ so greatly based on age (and race correlated comorbidities) means that mortality of Wuhan Virus varies greatly by locations

    Agreed. That was one of the reasons for my age based analysis.

  139. @Hail
    Who is JIA LYNN YANG:

    https://hailtoyou.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jia-lynn-yang-feb-2017-mit-center-for-intl-studies.png

    (Feb. 2017 pic, speaking at an anti-Muslim-Ban symposium in which she was invited as a Washington Post immigration-policy expert.)

    ______________

    From a Sept. 2017 feature in the New York Times introducing Jia Lynn Yang as the new NYT National Desk Deputy Editor:

    Jia Lynn Yang ... has been Washington Post’s deputy national security editor since 2015
     

    A native of Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn grew up spending summers with her extended family in Los Angeles, which taught her that the best food in America can be found in the dullest of strip malls. [...]

    Jia Lynn graduated from Yale with a B.A. in philosophy [2004] and a love of journalism developed at the Yale Daily News, where one of her editors was a smooth-talking guy named Michael Barbaro.
     
    Is that line about Michael Barbaro supposed to imply they are in a relationship, married, or what? Strange line. (It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish and a New York Times'er since 2005. Last word is he has defected from the full-Gay camp is is planning to marry a woman, after years of marriage to a man.)

    ______________

    From a July 2015 feature at the Wash. Post that introduced Jia Lynn Yang there as new deputy national security editor:

    Born [Dec. 1982] and raised in Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn joined the Post in 2010 as a reporter covering the intersection of business and policy. She also worked from Hong Kong on the Edward Snowden story after he was identified as the leaker of NSA documents to The Post and The Guardian. Her story on IBM’s relationship to its hometown was included in the Columbia Journalism Review’s anthology of “The Best Business Writing 2014.” She also contributed to a series on income inequality that was a finalist for a Gerald Loeb Award in explanatory reporting.

    Before joining the Post, Jia Lynn spent five years at Fortune magazine. She majored in philosophy at Yale, where she graduated in 2004, and lives in Adams Morgan with her husband, Zach Carter, a journalist for The Huffington Post.
     
    So it's Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a 'Hapa,' but in other pics looks not so much.

    They're still together, if Twitter is any indication:

    [Zach Carter Retweeted]

    Jia Lynn Yang
    @jialynnyang
    Apr 12

    "In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism because it had been drilled into me early on that racism against Asians didn’t exist."

    This is a powerful, unflinching essay from @cathyparkhong.

    Thank goodness for her voice right now.
     

    Zach Carter [Verified]
    @zachdcarter
    Mar 31

    I don’t know who still needs to hear this, but my wife’s book is a masterpiece. Starred review in Booklist: “
     
    https://twitter.com/zachdcarter/status/1245132152859131904

    They have a dog.

    Who is JIA LYNN YANG

    They have a dog.

    Yes, but for how long? (is a Chinaman) :

    When her pantry runs low, she’ll use that as an excuse for wokking the dog.

    • LOL: Clyde
  140. Anon[194] • Disclaimer says:

    More update from New York. This is a better website than they had before:

    https://covid19tracker.health.ny.gov/views/NYS-COVID19-Tracker/NYSDOHCOVID-19Tracker-Fatalities?%3Aembed=yes&%3Atoolbar=no&%3Atabs=n

    Hispanics now top the New York City fatality rate at 34% of the total, and blacks are 28% of the total. These two groups alone account for 62% of all the deaths. 88% of all the deaths had at least 1 co-morbidity.

    Deaths in other counties of the New York state, outside of New York City and its suburbs, are mostly in the single digits.

  141. @Jack D

    One Mighty and Irresistible Tide:
     
    Just lie back and enjoy it, America!

    Just lie back and enjoy it, America!

    You’re gonna set off a smoke detector with all that hand-rubbing.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
  142. @BenKenobi

    down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.
     
    This reminds me of something but I can't quite put my finger on it...

    This reminds me of something but I can’t quite put my finger on it…

    Except the Japanese atrocities were in the course of exemplary massacres practiced around the world since pretty much the beginning of time. The message to all who might aid, hide or feed the rebels (aka the ancien regime now on the run, or fighting to overturn the conquest) “resist the new ruling power and die”. Whereas the German message to Jews was “we’re just sending you to work camps, while you atone for your racial sins”, while they systematically gassed or starved every last Jew in their territory (minus a handful of mischlings) to death. I’d say there’s a huge difference.

    During WWII, the Chinese lost in absolute terms, when you include every last person killed during the war, including deaths from famine and Chinese scorched earth tactics*, as well as pumped-up (by Communist and Nationalist alike) numbers for propaganda purposes, 20m people. That’s fewer than the number that died during Chinese dynastic transitions or significant civil wars. It was 5% of the prewar Chinese population of 400m, and an order of magnitude less, %-wise of the 50% of Jews on the planet killed by the Germans during the Holocaust. In fact, in % terms, Chinese losses were during the Sino-Japanese War were probably in the lowest 25% of all major Chinese conflicts. Whereas in absolute and % terms, Jewish losses to the Germans exceeded the cataclysmic numbers suffered during the Roman persecutions, when they were in open insurrection against Roman rule.

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1938_Yellow_River_flood

  143. @syonredux
    J Edgar Hoover wasn't in favor of mass internment:

    Hoover played a major role—though largely in the background—in the conflict between the Justice Department and War Department/army over the mass exclusion of Japanese Americans from the West Coast. After Secretary of the Navy Frank Knox made the inflammatory statements about fifth column work in Hawai'i in the days after the attack on Pearl Harbor, Hoover contradicted Knox, stating unequivocally that there had been no such sabotage. Though Hoover's statement was withheld for a time, it was made public after the Tolan Committee hearings. Hoover later reported to Attorney General Francis Biddle that the Western Defense Command's intelligence capabilities were marred by "[h]ysteria and lack of judgment."[1] On February 3, 1942 Hoover sent Biddle his assessment of the push for mass removal: "The necessity for mass evacuation is based primarily upon public and political pressure rather than on factual data."[2] Though he didn't necessarily believe all Japanese Americans were loyal, he did believe that there was no need for mass exclusion, especially given the FBI's prior arrest of those on the custodial detention list. Hoover had read—and largely concurred with—Kenneth Ringle's January 26, 1942 report and Ringle's and Curtis Munson's earlier recommendations (see Munson Report). Despite his presence at key meetings with the War Department and the esteem that the President held him in, Executive Order 9066 was signed and mass exclusion took place.
     
    http://encyclopedia.densho.org/J._Edgar_Hoover/#Japanese_American_Incarceration

    Thanks. I also think the internment was excessive. But things like that happen during wartime. I guess my point of view boils down to: If that’s the worst they have to say about us–I can live with that. How about the self righteous people coming from different cultures hold their own ancestors to the same standard and see what they find?

    An instructive comparison is Korean comfort women and how that has been treated since.

    It is also instructive to see the way counterpoints have been shut down.
    https://www.latimes.com/local/readers-rep/la-rr-travel-letters-response-20161212-story.html

    When I see things like that I start wondering about how fact based our current narrative on the internment is.

    I like Steve’s take:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/forgotten-history-fdrs-persecution-of-italians-in-san-francisco/

    In retrospect, it turned out that all you had to do was ask Japanese people which side they were on. If they swore loyalty, you could rely on their oath. If they swore undying fealty to the Emperor, as about 5,000 did, well, you could rely on those guys to be a handful. The Japanese in 1940s America didn’t seem to have much concept of taqiyya.

    P.S. To tie this back into current events, I guess the lack of sabotage post-internment means the measure was successful.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Thanks. I also think the internment was excessive. But things like that happen during wartime. I guess my point of view boils down to: If that’s the worst they have to say about us–I can live with that.
     
    That's basically my take. Mass internment wasn't necessary, but it really doesn't measure up to the genuine atrocities that were committed during WW2: the mass bombings of cities by the US and UK (Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, etc), the wholesale slaughter of European Jewry by the Nazis, the Manila Massacre, the Rape of Nanking, the Katyn Massacre, etc.
  144. anonymous[193] • Disclaimer says:
    @Trinity
    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks. Oh wait, Jewish Bolsheviks wrote and drew those comics. Never mind.

    With all due respect, that is probably the biggest whopper I have ever seen on this blog. Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, the creators and initial producers of Captain America, both served honorably in the U.S. military in WW II.
    Joe, in particular, was a lifelong Republican and, although Jewish by heritage, he was not a religious man. Far from it.
    To say that someone who regarded George W. Bush as a liberal wimp was a “Bolshevik” is just delusional.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    But all Jews are Bolsheviks - that's the really important point that he was trying to make. Don't allow yourself to be distracted by facts.
  145. @J.Ross
    East Asians hate each other as a default. They hate Japan because Japan is successful. As far as there being some schedule of actions Japan could ever undertake with sufficient humiliation that China would be satisfied, and would no longer base their entire current ideological cosmos on a cheap Holocaust knockoff with Japan as The Dev Ull, short answer [laughter] no. The Chinese case against Japan is not a legitimate grievance based on reality, it is an emotional tribal negotiating ploy.

    ” a cheap Holocaust knockoff with Japan as The Dev Ull”

    The actions of the Japanese in China before WW2, and during WW2 in Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Sumatra, Java etc were disgraceful.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson Three

    The actions of the Japanese in China before WW2, and during WW2 in Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Sumatra, Java etc were disgraceful.
     
    You have a generous soul. What the Japanese did qualify as the worst atrocities we know. Maybe they did not exceed the Nazis, Stalin, and Mao, but they matched them.

    If you do not think so, just reread the accounts of the Bataan Death March.
    , @Chrisnonymous
    Yes, but J.Ross is still correct. The current conflict is not about lingering anger over the atrocities of 75 years ago but about current conditions. There is an element of that in the Middle East too.

    Note for example that Taiwanese tend to get along great with Japanese, and among nations like Thailand and Burma, which don't have the shoulder chip about being the center of the world, animosity to Japanese is much less
  146. @Hail
    Who is JIA LYNN YANG:

    https://hailtoyou.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jia-lynn-yang-feb-2017-mit-center-for-intl-studies.png

    (Feb. 2017 pic, speaking at an anti-Muslim-Ban symposium in which she was invited as a Washington Post immigration-policy expert.)

    ______________

    From a Sept. 2017 feature in the New York Times introducing Jia Lynn Yang as the new NYT National Desk Deputy Editor:

    Jia Lynn Yang ... has been Washington Post’s deputy national security editor since 2015
     

    A native of Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn grew up spending summers with her extended family in Los Angeles, which taught her that the best food in America can be found in the dullest of strip malls. [...]

    Jia Lynn graduated from Yale with a B.A. in philosophy [2004] and a love of journalism developed at the Yale Daily News, where one of her editors was a smooth-talking guy named Michael Barbaro.
     
    Is that line about Michael Barbaro supposed to imply they are in a relationship, married, or what? Strange line. (It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish and a New York Times'er since 2005. Last word is he has defected from the full-Gay camp is is planning to marry a woman, after years of marriage to a man.)

    ______________

    From a July 2015 feature at the Wash. Post that introduced Jia Lynn Yang there as new deputy national security editor:

    Born [Dec. 1982] and raised in Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn joined the Post in 2010 as a reporter covering the intersection of business and policy. She also worked from Hong Kong on the Edward Snowden story after he was identified as the leaker of NSA documents to The Post and The Guardian. Her story on IBM’s relationship to its hometown was included in the Columbia Journalism Review’s anthology of “The Best Business Writing 2014.” She also contributed to a series on income inequality that was a finalist for a Gerald Loeb Award in explanatory reporting.

    Before joining the Post, Jia Lynn spent five years at Fortune magazine. She majored in philosophy at Yale, where she graduated in 2004, and lives in Adams Morgan with her husband, Zach Carter, a journalist for The Huffington Post.
     
    So it's Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a 'Hapa,' but in other pics looks not so much.

    They're still together, if Twitter is any indication:

    [Zach Carter Retweeted]

    Jia Lynn Yang
    @jialynnyang
    Apr 12

    "In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism because it had been drilled into me early on that racism against Asians didn’t exist."

    This is a powerful, unflinching essay from @cathyparkhong.

    Thank goodness for her voice right now.
     

    Zach Carter [Verified]
    @zachdcarter
    Mar 31

    I don’t know who still needs to hear this, but my wife’s book is a masterpiece. Starred review in Booklist: “
     
    https://twitter.com/zachdcarter/status/1245132152859131904

    They have a dog.

    I get when a white dude has a hankerin’ for Chinaladies it’s called “yellow fever”. But what’s it called when these east asian lasses have a groinal ache for the young white buck….Snow Blindness? Fog Fever? Ice Ache?

  147. @Jack D
    America is a great country.

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans. This flares up periodically in the form of anti-Japanese boycotts, smashing Japanese businesses, etc. but even when it's not flaring it's a continuing undercurrent of seething hatred and bad memories. The Koreans bring up the subject of reparations for the "comfort women" (Korean women allegedly forced into prostitution by the Japanese military) at every opportunity even though they are down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.

    But in the US, Japanese are just fellow Asians and Chinese-Americans and Korean-Americans can use Japanese internment 80 years ago as evidence of current anti-Asian prejudice by Americans and a stick with which to beat whitey. And as Steve says, never mind that American Chinese and Filipinos were among the most enthusiastic endorsers of the idea of interning Japanese enemies at the time.

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and their atrocities in Nanking and elsewhere was that this was accompanied by a great outpouring of love and assistance for our (then non-Communist) brave Chinese allies and Chinese were portrayed very positively in American popular culture at that time. But forget that part, what about the "internment of Asian-Americans"?

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans.

    Not because of their Nazi-like behavior, which was anything but Nazi-like. The Japanese slaughtered rebels and attempted to turn non-rebels into Japanese, using pacification tactics familiar to the Greeks and Romans from antiquity. The reason they hate the Japanese is because the Japanese lost. It’s exactly the same reason that the Vietnamese hate the Chinese. If the Japanese had won, the Japan-haters in the Far East would all be Japanese today, and the Japanese empire in East Asia would incorporate exactly the varying hues of people who currently live there, with perhaps a bigger admixture from the darker hues in metropolitan Japan, and the lighter hues outside of metropolitan Japan. Whereas if the Germans had won, the entire Jewish and Slavic populations of the countries they conquered would be extinct, having been exterminated in their entirety.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson Three

    Not because of their Nazi-like behavior, which was anything but Nazi-like.
     
    You mean because they did not kill Jews?

    If the Japanese had won, the Japan-haters in the Far East would all be Japanese today
     
    No, they would all have been murdered. Your reference is to non-Japanese-haters.

    the Japanese empire in East Asia would incorporate exactly the varying hues of people who currently live there, with perhaps a bigger admixture from the darker hues in metropolitan Japan, and the lighter hues outside of metropolitan Japan.
     
    Because as long as your 'hue' remains, you need not worry about the rape, disposition, and murder inflicted upon you, right Johann?

    Whereas if the Germans had won, the entire Jewish and Slavic populations of the countries they conquered would be extinct, having been exterminated in their entirety.
     
    But their hue would have survived, right?

    So, no harm to the hue, no foul.
    , @syonredux

    The Japanese slaughtered rebels and attempted to turn non-rebels into Japanese, using pacification tactics familiar to the Greeks and Romans from antiquity.
     
    Julius Caesar was a very unpleasant fellow....

    A cache of bones and artifacts buried at a site near to where the Waal and Meuse rivers meet testify to a genocidal slaughter of tragic proportions. As recorded by Julius Caesar himself, a bloody battle took place in 55 BC resulting in the genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople, including women and children, in what is now Netherlands.
     

    “I sent the cavalry behind to them.
    “The Germans heard screams behind him, and when they saw that their wives and children were slain, they threw down their weapons and ran headlong away from the camp.
    “When they had come to the point where the Meuse and Rhine rivers flow together, they saw no good in further flights.
    “A large number of them were slain, and the rest fell into the river, where they died overwhelmed by anxiety, fatigue and strength of the current.” — Caesar, De Bello Gallico Book 4, 14-15
     
    https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/150000-fled-their-lives-were-slaughtered-julius-caesar-army-bones-reveal-020659
  148. @Wilkey

    But nevertheless, for this Chinese scalawag to take up the side of the folks we literally saved their asses from, takes a certain measure of lowbrow Chinese pluck.
     
    To assume that gratitude has any meaningful value for most people in this world is your first mistake. Most people will forget the things you’ve done for them, up to and including saving their lives, the moment they decide their interests conflict even slightly with yours, especially if they are of another race or ethnicity, but sometimes even if they are your own flesh and blood.

    And that’s before getting into the cultures, such as Islam, who deliberately use their enemy’s kindness as a weakness to exploit in order to conquer. Such cultures never felt any gratitude to begin with.

    “If you pick up a starving dog and make him prosperous, he will not bite you. This is the principal difference between a dog and a man.”- Mark Twain

  149. @Trinity
    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks. Oh wait, Jewish Bolsheviks wrote and drew those comics. Never mind.

    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks.

    Why would he beat up his boss?

  150. @res
    Thanks. I also think the internment was excessive. But things like that happen during wartime. I guess my point of view boils down to: If that's the worst they have to say about us--I can live with that. How about the self righteous people coming from different cultures hold their own ancestors to the same standard and see what they find?

    An instructive comparison is Korean comfort women and how that has been treated since.

    It is also instructive to see the way counterpoints have been shut down.
    https://www.latimes.com/local/readers-rep/la-rr-travel-letters-response-20161212-story.html

    When I see things like that I start wondering about how fact based our current narrative on the internment is.

    I like Steve's take:
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/forgotten-history-fdrs-persecution-of-italians-in-san-francisco/

    In retrospect, it turned out that all you had to do was ask Japanese people which side they were on. If they swore loyalty, you could rely on their oath. If they swore undying fealty to the Emperor, as about 5,000 did, well, you could rely on those guys to be a handful. The Japanese in 1940s America didn’t seem to have much concept of taqiyya.
     
    P.S. To tie this back into current events, I guess the lack of sabotage post-internment means the measure was successful.

    Thanks. I also think the internment was excessive. But things like that happen during wartime. I guess my point of view boils down to: If that’s the worst they have to say about us–I can live with that.

    That’s basically my take. Mass internment wasn’t necessary, but it really doesn’t measure up to the genuine atrocities that were committed during WW2: the mass bombings of cities by the US and UK (Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, etc), the wholesale slaughter of European Jewry by the Nazis, the Manila Massacre, the Rape of Nanking, the Katyn Massacre, etc.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Mass internment wasn’t necessary
     
    Except to protect the interned from the sort of people who'd vote for FDR three times.

    Think about this: Minoru Yamasaki, then an architect in his early thirties, spent the war designing bunkers for the US Army. He doesn't seem like one they saw as a threat.
    , @Bucky
    I probably would have ordered an internment if I were in government. There were real concerns about spying and danger to the Japanese themselves.

    All it would take would be a real instance of spying by a Japanese, along with a number of suspected spyings, and there would have been massacres and pogroms.
  151. @Bardon Kaldian
    Everywhere the same story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_Zealand

    At the latest census in 2018, 70.2 percent identified as European, 16.5 percent as Māori, 15.1 percent as Asian, 8.1 percent as Pacific peoples, and 1.2 percent as Middle-Eastern, Latin American, and African (MELAA)

    .................

    The European grouping significantly decreased from 80.0 percent of the population in 2001 to 70.2 percent in 2013, and a likely cause of this is due to heightened immigration from Asia.
    ..............................
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand

    On 26 April 2005, he said: "Māori will be disturbed to know that in 17 years' time they will be outnumbered by Asians in New Zealand" – an estimate disputed by Statistics New Zealand, the government's statistics bureau. Peters quickly rebutted that Statistics New Zealand had underestimated the growth-rate of the Asian community in the past.[36]

    In April 2008, then deputy New Zealand First Party leader Peter Brown drew widespread attention after voicing similar views and expressing concern at the increase in New Zealand's ethnic Asian population: "We are going to flood this country with Asian people with no idea what we are going to do with them when they come here."[37] "The matter is serious. If we continue this open door policy there is real danger we will be inundated with people who have no intention of integrating into our society. The greater the number, the greater the risk. They will form their own mini-societies to the detriment of integration and that will lead to division, friction and resentment."

    The future is Asian and African. You can’t outbreed them. Instead, their numbers have to be controlled because they are a pestilence upon the planet.

    As a stopgap measure, admission to our nations has to be severely curtailed, if not completely stopped. None of this is happening, though.

  152. @res
    It is good to inject some nuance into the internment discussion.

    There were a few small acts of sabotage in Hawaii and along the West Coast carried out by Japanese right after December 7. All forgotten today.
     
    I don't doubt that is true, but do you have any details? One of the proudly cited talking points we see is "No person of Japanese ancestry living in the United States was ever convicted of any serious act of espionage or sabotage during the war."
    I got that from https://www.nps.gov/articles/historyinternment.htm but a quick search shows similar text is common.

    Some other details.

    https://www.nytimes.com/1983/05/22/us/1941-cables-boasted-of-japanese-american-spying.html
    Another version of that:
    https://www.cia.gov/library/readingroom/docs/CIA-RDP90-00552R000202030026-8.pdf

    Roughly half of the “Japanese Americans” sent to internment camps were not American citizens but Japanese nationals
     
    I am surprised how little this is discussed. It seems like a rather important distinction. This page seems to indicate citizens were more like two thirds:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans
    Do you have a source for roughly half?

    Lastly compare how “enemy aliens” were treated by the other combatant nations of WW2.
     
    Indeed. It might be good to gather together a list of examples for the next time this topic comes up. Do you have good examples? Because when I search those examples are overwhelmed by the evils of the US.

    P.S. This page looks worthwhile:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Japanese_spies,_1930%E2%80%9345

    This example was pre-WWII but makes clear what was going on:

    Toshio Miyazaki – Imperial Japanese Navy agent who recruited the American Harry Thomas Thompson as a secret agent in San Diego.
     
    This looks highly relevant, but has no citation:

    - The Black Dragon Society, the Kaigun Kyokai (Navy League), or the Hoirusha Kai (Military Service Man's League), and other similar societies. These Japanese secret groups were well known to the US Naval Intelligence Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation for the subversive actions in the United States among some elements of Doho communities.
    - Other overseas Japanese agents of Black Dragon Society were the so-called "soshi" (Brave Knights). At the same time, referring to superior commander as the "Darkside Emperor" mentioned agents since the 1940s, operating worldwide, as far away as North America, South America, and Morocco. They formed covert ties with the Nazis.

     

    It looks like this page (now disappeared) was the source for that:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20090304024922/http://www.fortunecity.com/tattooine/leiber/50/bds1.htm

    This page claims: https://wargaming.com/en/news/japanese_kempeitai/

    The Black Dragons were active along the Pacific Coast of North and South America.
     

    The Munson Report makes interesting reading:

    Intelligence report on Japanese Americans on the West Coast filed by businessman Curtis B. Munson in the weeks prior to the attack on Pearl Harbor at the request of presidential envoy John Franklin Carter. Based on first hand research and consultation with navy and Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, the report largely concluded that Japanese Americans presented no security risk.

    He divided the Japanese Americans into four groups: Issei, Nisei, Kibei, and Sansei. Dismissing the Sansei because they were mostly children, he focused on the other three groups.

    Of the Issei, he noted that they are “considerably weakened in their loyalty to Japan by the fact that they have chosen to make this their home and have brought up their children here.” “They expect to die here,” he wrote.[4] He described the Nisei as “universally estimated from 90 to 98 percent loyal to the United States if the Japanese-educated element of the Kibei is excluded. The Nisei are pathetically eager to show this loyalty. They are not Japanese in culture. They are foreigners to Japan.” While conceding that the Kibei “are considered the most dangerous element,” he also notes “that many of those who visited Japan subsequent to their early American education come back with added loyalty to the United States. In fact it is a saying that all a Nisei needs is a trip to Japan to make a loyal American out of him.”[5]

    As for Japanese Americans being potential saboteurs, Munson makes the key point that they “are hampered as saboteurs because of their easily recognized physical appearance. It will be hard for them to get near anything to blow up if it is guarded.”[6]

    He concludes, “As interview after interview piled up, those bringing in results began to call it the same old tune. The story was all the same. There is no Japanese ‘problem’ on the Coast. There will be no armed uprising of Japanese.”[7]

    Subsequently, Munson, along with Carter and Kenneth Ringle of the Office of Naval Intelligence, recommended to the president what Michi Weglyn calls a “power-to-the-Nisei” policy, essentially giving them responsibility of policing the community: “The aim of this will be to squeeze control from the hands of the Japanese Nationals into the hands of the loyal Nisei who are American citizens…. It is the aim that the Nisei should police themselves, and as a result police their parents.”[12]

    https://encyclopedia.densho.org/Munson_Report/

    Kenneth Ringle’s work is also of interest:

    Kenneth Ringle (1900–63) was an Office of Naval Intelligence officer whose prewar investigation of the Japanese American community led him to conclude that Japanese Americans did not pose a security risk as a group and to oppose their mass removal and incarceration. He went on to work for the War Relocation Authority and authored a report on Japanese Americans that was later published anonymously in Harper’s magazine in October of 1942.

    Beginning in July 1940, he served as the assistant district intelligence officer for the Eleventh Naval District in Los Angeles. With his knowledge of Japanese language and culture, he was assigned to assess Japanese American loyalty on the West Coast and to engage in counterespionage efforts, tasks he approached with gusto. He built a network of informants within the Japanese American community, particularly among members of the Japanese American Citizens League, whose members were flattered that a military official such as Ringle sought them out. He regularly attended JACL Southern District meetings and hosted a dinner for Southern California JACL chapters in March of 1941.[1] He also interviewed a range of others with knowledge about Japanese Americans and also met with presidential investigator Curtis Munson in the summer of 1941, serving as a key informant and influence on Munson’s subsequent report.

    In June of 1941, Ringle led a late-night break in to the Japanese consulate in Los Angeles. This raid was accomplished with the cooperation of local police and the FBI and even included a safe cracker that they had pulled out of prison to assist on the job. Information gleaned from the raid included lists of members of a Japanese spy ring that led to the subsequent arrest of Itaru Tachibana. (See Tachibana Case.) These lists served as a key source for the compiling of ABC Lists of those to be arrested in the event of war with Japan.

    Based on information from the various sources noted above, Ringle submitted a report in January 1942 that vouched for Japanese American loyalty and argued against mass exclusion. He felt that the vast majority of Japanese Americans were at least “passively loyal” and that any potential saboteurs or enemy agents could be individually identified and imprisoned, as in fact most already had been by that time. He identified Kibei as “those persons most dangerous to the peace and security of the United States,” but argued that other Nisei were regarded by Japanese agents as “cultural traitors” who could not be trusted and who thus posed no security threat.[2]

    https://encyclopedia.densho.org/Kenneth_Ringle/

    • Thanks: res
  153. The pandemic is over, but we all need to stay locked down until the a Trump economy is burned to ashes so Joe Biden can rise like a Phoenix. Then we can stay mired in Obama Depression II for eight years while progressives rebuild the deep state, enact single payer health rationing, and pack the Supreme Court with constitution deconstructionists.

  154. @Anonymous
    I... hate to point out an obvious flaw, but... the Chinese tend to be hella racist, enough so to make the most committed modern American Klansman blush, and they don’t care who knows it. For a Chinese woman to smear Americans by issuing that asinine charge, while ignoring the racist horror show in China is, like too much of Chinese culture, bizarre.

    https://twitter.com/daddyhope/status/1249016415618764800

    Coronavirus: Africans in China subjected to forced evictions, arbitrary quarantines and harassment

    https://www.france24.com/en/20200411-if-you-re-black-you-can-t-go-out-africans-in-china-face-racism-in-covid-19-crackdown

    • Replies: @Truth
    Ain't that what the Chinese get in China?
  155. @J.Ross
    "Calm down, it's not genocide, it's not an attack on your culture or heritage --"
    Afghan Muslim "Refugees" repay Greek hospitality by chopping down thousands of olive trees on the island of Lesvos.
    https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/04/07/an-attack-on-greek-heritage-migrants-chop-thousands-of-olive-trees-on-lesvos/

    I would bulldoze those useless refugees into the ocean for chopping down those 5000 old olive trees. Where were the Greek police and army? Armed local men?

  156. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.
     
    And then follows graf after graf of distaff shrieking… Ironic.jpg

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it.
     
    Wow, Buzz, I had no idea Steve, from a bedroom closet in the Valley, has the power to shut down international travel and close borders… he could’ve stopped unwanted immigration the whole time—?

    WHAT THE FUCK STEVE why didn’t you do this earlier !?!?!*

    *If Buzz is wrong about your omnipotent powers, Steve, I apologize. Happy Easter. :)

    https://pics.me.me/would-big-chungus-save-the-easter-week-71369894.png

    omnipotent powers

    In b4 Reg: Yes, his powers would be that powerful. 😉

  157. When I was in China a few years ago I noticed that they frequently broadcast WW2 history shows where the American war in the Pacific was always a prominent feature if not the only feature. There was no downplaying of the American role. From my experience it can hardly be said that the Chinese habitually try to stoke up anti-US feeling .

    Regarding this stupid Chinese tart. She is just doing what women do better than men, and therefore what Chinese women do better than anyone, that is to say, kowtowing to the prevailing orthodoxy of opinion. She knows that in order to be accepted in polite society you have to criticise America’s past actions, in the present case the stupid bint is unable to comprehend that those actions were a tiny tiny aspect of effort and sacrifice that ultimately saved the lives of millions of innocent people of her own ancestry. If she was a decent human being she would write about how grateful she was to the American soldiers, sailors and air crew; but she’s a horrible pig of a person so she harps on about something really minor compared to all else that was happening because she knows that in today’s cultural climate that’s how you get on.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Chinese investors paid for a lot of last year's WWII movie "Midway." In return, they got a couple of minutes emphasizing the terrible revenge the Japanese took on Chinese civilians for helping Doolittle's Raiders escape after their 30 Seconds over Tokyo.

    Seems reasonable.

  158. @AnonAnon

    The coronavirus pandemic has unleashed a torrent of anti-Asian racism in America that shows no signs of abating.
     
    Buckle up, Ms. Yang, you haven’t seen anything yet.

    And don’t try to use other Asians as your shield, the whole world knows it’s the Chinese that gifted the world the virus and forthcoming depression and we’re FURIOUS.

    “And don’t try to use other Asians as your shield, the whole world knows it’s the Chinese that gifted the world the virus and forthcoming depression and we’re FURIOUS.”

    Is that true, though?

    The virus, perhaps, but the depression seems to be the result of boneheaded western leaders who decided to deep six the economy (and allow the banks to receive boatloads of stimulus dollars).

    Even if I wanted to blame the Chinese for the virus, it isn’t China keeping the North American population locked up at home. That’s a policy choice, and a dodgy one.

    • Agree: Hail
  159. @Hail
    Who is JIA LYNN YANG:

    https://hailtoyou.files.wordpress.com/2020/04/jia-lynn-yang-feb-2017-mit-center-for-intl-studies.png

    (Feb. 2017 pic, speaking at an anti-Muslim-Ban symposium in which she was invited as a Washington Post immigration-policy expert.)

    ______________

    From a Sept. 2017 feature in the New York Times introducing Jia Lynn Yang as the new NYT National Desk Deputy Editor:

    Jia Lynn Yang ... has been Washington Post’s deputy national security editor since 2015
     

    A native of Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn grew up spending summers with her extended family in Los Angeles, which taught her that the best food in America can be found in the dullest of strip malls. [...]

    Jia Lynn graduated from Yale with a B.A. in philosophy [2004] and a love of journalism developed at the Yale Daily News, where one of her editors was a smooth-talking guy named Michael Barbaro.
     
    Is that line about Michael Barbaro supposed to imply they are in a relationship, married, or what? Strange line. (It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish and a New York Times'er since 2005. Last word is he has defected from the full-Gay camp is is planning to marry a woman, after years of marriage to a man.)

    ______________

    From a July 2015 feature at the Wash. Post that introduced Jia Lynn Yang there as new deputy national security editor:

    Born [Dec. 1982] and raised in Alexandria, Va., Jia Lynn joined the Post in 2010 as a reporter covering the intersection of business and policy. She also worked from Hong Kong on the Edward Snowden story after he was identified as the leaker of NSA documents to The Post and The Guardian. Her story on IBM’s relationship to its hometown was included in the Columbia Journalism Review’s anthology of “The Best Business Writing 2014.” She also contributed to a series on income inequality that was a finalist for a Gerald Loeb Award in explanatory reporting.

    Before joining the Post, Jia Lynn spent five years at Fortune magazine. She majored in philosophy at Yale, where she graduated in 2004, and lives in Adams Morgan with her husband, Zach Carter, a journalist for The Huffington Post.
     
    So it's Zach Carter, who in his HuffPost profile pic look passable as a 'Hapa,' but in other pics looks not so much.

    They're still together, if Twitter is any indication:

    [Zach Carter Retweeted]

    Jia Lynn Yang
    @jialynnyang
    Apr 12

    "In the past, I had a habit of minimizing anti-Asian racism because it had been drilled into me early on that racism against Asians didn’t exist."

    This is a powerful, unflinching essay from @cathyparkhong.

    Thank goodness for her voice right now.
     

    Zach Carter [Verified]
    @zachdcarter
    Mar 31

    I don’t know who still needs to hear this, but my wife’s book is a masterpiece. Starred review in Booklist: “
     
    https://twitter.com/zachdcarter/status/1245132152859131904

    They have a dog.

    Jia Lynn Yang did not succumb to going about her hair so she is fairly legit. Thanks for the research on possible lesbianism and her marital status, where she is coming from. She is what used to be called a handsome woman. Does she cook for her husband? I’ll bet he has to beg her for days for some solid Chinese food and that she often burns the rice.

  160. @martin_2
    When I was in China a few years ago I noticed that they frequently broadcast WW2 history shows where the American war in the Pacific was always a prominent feature if not the only feature. There was no downplaying of the American role. From my experience it can hardly be said that the Chinese habitually try to stoke up anti-US feeling .

    Regarding this stupid Chinese tart. She is just doing what women do better than men, and therefore what Chinese women do better than anyone, that is to say, kowtowing to the prevailing orthodoxy of opinion. She knows that in order to be accepted in polite society you have to criticise America's past actions, in the present case the stupid bint is unable to comprehend that those actions were a tiny tiny aspect of effort and sacrifice that ultimately saved the lives of millions of innocent people of her own ancestry. If she was a decent human being she would write about how grateful she was to the American soldiers, sailors and air crew; but she's a horrible pig of a person so she harps on about something really minor compared to all else that was happening because she knows that in today's cultural climate that's how you get on.

    Chinese investors paid for a lot of last year’s WWII movie “Midway.” In return, they got a couple of minutes emphasizing the terrible revenge the Japanese took on Chinese civilians for helping Doolittle’s Raiders escape after their 30 Seconds over Tokyo.

    Seems reasonable.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Chinese investors paid for a lot of last year’s WWII movie “Midway.” In return, they got a couple of minutes emphasizing the terrible revenge the Japanese took on Chinese civilians for helping Doolittle’s Raiders escape after their 30 Seconds over Tokyo.

    Seems reasonable.

     

    Indeed:

    After the raid, the Japanese Imperial Army began the Zhejiang-Jiangxi campaign (also known as Operation Sei-go) to prevent these eastern coastal provinces of China from being used again for an attack on Japan and to take revenge on the Chinese people. An area of some 20,000 sq mi (50,000 km2) was laid waste. "Like a swarm of locusts, they left behind nothing but destruction and chaos," eyewitness Father Wendelin Dunker wrote.[54] The Japanese killed an estimated 10,000 Chinese civilians during their search for Doolittle's men.[55] People who aided the airmen were tortured before they were killed. Father Dunker wrote of the destruction of the town of Ihwang: "They shot any man, woman, child, cow, hog, or just about anything that moved, They raped any woman from the ages of 10 – 65, and before burning the town they thoroughly looted it...None of the humans shot were buried either..."[54] The Japanese entered Nancheng, population 50,000 on June 11, "beginning a reign of terror so horrendous that missionaries would later dub it 'the Rape of Nancheng.' " evoking memories of the infamous Rape of Nanjing five years before. Less than a month later, the Japanese forces put what remained of the city to the torch. "This planned burning was carried on for three days," one Chinese newspaper reported, "and the city of Nancheng became charred earth."[54]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid#Zhejiang-Jiangxi_campaign
  161. @YetAnotherAnon
    " a cheap Holocaust knockoff with Japan as The Dev Ull"

    The actions of the Japanese in China before WW2, and during WW2 in Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Sumatra, Java etc were disgraceful.

    The actions of the Japanese in China before WW2, and during WW2 in Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Sumatra, Java etc were disgraceful.

    You have a generous soul. What the Japanese did qualify as the worst atrocities we know. Maybe they did not exceed the Nazis, Stalin, and Mao, but they matched them.

    If you do not think so, just reread the accounts of the Bataan Death March.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    If you do not think so, just reread the accounts of the Bataan Death March.
     
    Unit 731 says hello:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731
  162. @J.Ross
    "Calm down, it's not genocide, it's not an attack on your culture or heritage --"
    Afghan Muslim "Refugees" repay Greek hospitality by chopping down thousands of olive trees on the island of Lesvos.
    https://greekcitytimes.com/2020/04/07/an-attack-on-greek-heritage-migrants-chop-thousands-of-olive-trees-on-lesvos/

    ‘“Calm down, it’s not genocide, it’s not an attack on your culture or heritage –”
    Afghan Muslim “Refugees” repay Greek hospitality by chopping down thousands of olive trees on the island of Lesvos.’

    Aside from everything else, that’s gross plagiarism. Chopping down all the olive trees is an invention of another group of unwanted immigrants.

  163. @Johann Ricke

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans.
     
    Not because of their Nazi-like behavior, which was anything but Nazi-like. The Japanese slaughtered rebels and attempted to turn non-rebels into Japanese, using pacification tactics familiar to the Greeks and Romans from antiquity. The reason they hate the Japanese is because the Japanese lost. It's exactly the same reason that the Vietnamese hate the Chinese. If the Japanese had won, the Japan-haters in the Far East would all be Japanese today, and the Japanese empire in East Asia would incorporate exactly the varying hues of people who currently live there, with perhaps a bigger admixture from the darker hues in metropolitan Japan, and the lighter hues outside of metropolitan Japan. Whereas if the Germans had won, the entire Jewish and Slavic populations of the countries they conquered would be extinct, having been exterminated in their entirety.

    Not because of their Nazi-like behavior, which was anything but Nazi-like.

    You mean because they did not kill Jews?

    If the Japanese had won, the Japan-haters in the Far East would all be Japanese today

    No, they would all have been murdered. Your reference is to non-Japanese-haters.

    the Japanese empire in East Asia would incorporate exactly the varying hues of people who currently live there, with perhaps a bigger admixture from the darker hues in metropolitan Japan, and the lighter hues outside of metropolitan Japan.

    Because as long as your ‘hue’ remains, you need not worry about the rape, disposition, and murder inflicted upon you, right Johann?

    Whereas if the Germans had won, the entire Jewish and Slavic populations of the countries they conquered would be extinct, having been exterminated in their entirety.

    But their hue would have survived, right?

    So, no harm to the hue, no foul.

  164. @syonredux

    Thanks. I also think the internment was excessive. But things like that happen during wartime. I guess my point of view boils down to: If that’s the worst they have to say about us–I can live with that.
     
    That's basically my take. Mass internment wasn't necessary, but it really doesn't measure up to the genuine atrocities that were committed during WW2: the mass bombings of cities by the US and UK (Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, etc), the wholesale slaughter of European Jewry by the Nazis, the Manila Massacre, the Rape of Nanking, the Katyn Massacre, etc.

    Mass internment wasn’t necessary

    Except to protect the interned from the sort of people who’d vote for FDR three times.

    Think about this: Minoru Yamasaki, then an architect in his early thirties, spent the war designing bunkers for the US Army. He doesn’t seem like one they saw as a threat.

  165. @Franz
    Ohio people just miss the Kent State shootings and pushing for another, eh?

    https://twitter.com/o_rips/status/1248593031546023939

    A lot of Eastern European and Appalachian people in Ohio. Of course the same is true in Michigan and Illinois.

  166. @jim jones
    Filipinos were hiding in the jungle while my father was flying a Spitfire in the RAF

    My Filipino aunt left the Catholic Church and became a Baptist because the Baptists kept the faith even after the Japanese beheaded some of them at the top of a mountain and rolled the heads down the mountain as a warning to the others.

  167. @Known Fact
    Just not buying it. If you blame Asian-Americans for the virus would you really get close enough to assault, berate or spit on them? No, I'd keep my hate-filled racist hands safely to myself. Unless all these supremacist thugs are walking around in full hazmat gear under their MAGA hats

    People who do that kind of thing are generally not geniuses.

  168. Anonymous[284] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Except this is false. Americans are not "anti-Asian" to begin with. We have nothing but love for our friends from Korea, Thailand, the Philippines, Vietnam, etc. We have no problems with Chinese when they are democracy supporters in Hong Kong, Taiwan and Singapore. The only ones we have any ill feelings for are the rude Chinese Communists who have brought about a worldwide epidemic through their actions and who have been doing their best to undercut American interests in multiple ways. So naturally there is push back against their aggression. Generally speaking, Americans are nice to people who are nice to us and not so nice to people who try to harm us.

    Except this is false. Americans are not “anti-Semitic to begin with. We have nothing but love for our Jewish neighbors from Los Angeles, New York, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc. We have no problems with Jews when they are democracy supporters in the Soviet Union, Cuba, and East Germany. The only ones we have any ill feelings for are the rude Jews who have undermined governments in Alabama and Mississippi through their actions and who have been doing their best to undercut American interests in Iraq, Saudi Arabia, and Iran in multiple ways. So naturally there is push back against their aggression. Generally speaking, Americans are nice to people who are nice to us and not so nice to people who try to harm us.

    Lol. Get out of here Jack.

    • Agree: Jack Armstrong
  169. @Johann Ricke

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans.
     
    Not because of their Nazi-like behavior, which was anything but Nazi-like. The Japanese slaughtered rebels and attempted to turn non-rebels into Japanese, using pacification tactics familiar to the Greeks and Romans from antiquity. The reason they hate the Japanese is because the Japanese lost. It's exactly the same reason that the Vietnamese hate the Chinese. If the Japanese had won, the Japan-haters in the Far East would all be Japanese today, and the Japanese empire in East Asia would incorporate exactly the varying hues of people who currently live there, with perhaps a bigger admixture from the darker hues in metropolitan Japan, and the lighter hues outside of metropolitan Japan. Whereas if the Germans had won, the entire Jewish and Slavic populations of the countries they conquered would be extinct, having been exterminated in their entirety.

    The Japanese slaughtered rebels and attempted to turn non-rebels into Japanese, using pacification tactics familiar to the Greeks and Romans from antiquity.

    Julius Caesar was a very unpleasant fellow….

    A cache of bones and artifacts buried at a site near to where the Waal and Meuse rivers meet testify to a genocidal slaughter of tragic proportions. As recorded by Julius Caesar himself, a bloody battle took place in 55 BC resulting in the genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople, including women and children, in what is now Netherlands.

    “I sent the cavalry behind to them.
    “The Germans heard screams behind him, and when they saw that their wives and children were slain, they threw down their weapons and ran headlong away from the camp.
    “When they had come to the point where the Meuse and Rhine rivers flow together, they saw no good in further flights.
    “A large number of them were slain, and the rest fell into the river, where they died overwhelmed by anxiety, fatigue and strength of the current.” — Caesar, De Bello Gallico Book 4, 14-15

    https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/150000-fled-their-lives-were-slaughtered-julius-caesar-army-bones-reveal-020659

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    A cache of bones and artifacts buried at a site near to where the Waal and Meuse rivers meet testify to a genocidal slaughter of tragic proportions. As recorded by Julius Caesar himself, a bloody battle took place in 55 BC resulting in the genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople, including women and children, in what is now Netherlands.
     
    A "genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople" is literally impossible. A genocide is always "of" a group.
  170. @Steve Sailer
    Chinese investors paid for a lot of last year's WWII movie "Midway." In return, they got a couple of minutes emphasizing the terrible revenge the Japanese took on Chinese civilians for helping Doolittle's Raiders escape after their 30 Seconds over Tokyo.

    Seems reasonable.

    Chinese investors paid for a lot of last year’s WWII movie “Midway.” In return, they got a couple of minutes emphasizing the terrible revenge the Japanese took on Chinese civilians for helping Doolittle’s Raiders escape after their 30 Seconds over Tokyo.

    Seems reasonable.

    Indeed:

    After the raid, the Japanese Imperial Army began the Zhejiang-Jiangxi campaign (also known as Operation Sei-go) to prevent these eastern coastal provinces of China from being used again for an attack on Japan and to take revenge on the Chinese people. An area of some 20,000 sq mi (50,000 km2) was laid waste. “Like a swarm of locusts, they left behind nothing but destruction and chaos,” eyewitness Father Wendelin Dunker wrote.[54] The Japanese killed an estimated 10,000 Chinese civilians during their search for Doolittle’s men.[55] People who aided the airmen were tortured before they were killed. Father Dunker wrote of the destruction of the town of Ihwang: “They shot any man, woman, child, cow, hog, or just about anything that moved, They raped any woman from the ages of 10 – 65, and before burning the town they thoroughly looted it…None of the humans shot were buried either…”[54] The Japanese entered Nancheng, population 50,000 on June 11, “beginning a reign of terror so horrendous that missionaries would later dub it ‘the Rape of Nancheng.’ ” evoking memories of the infamous Rape of Nanjing five years before. Less than a month later, the Japanese forces put what remained of the city to the torch. “This planned burning was carried on for three days,” one Chinese newspaper reported, “and the city of Nancheng became charred earth.”[54]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doolittle_Raid#Zhejiang-Jiangxi_campaign

  171. @Bardon Kaldian
    Everywhere the same story:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_New_Zealand

    At the latest census in 2018, 70.2 percent identified as European, 16.5 percent as Māori, 15.1 percent as Asian, 8.1 percent as Pacific peoples, and 1.2 percent as Middle-Eastern, Latin American, and African (MELAA)

    .................

    The European grouping significantly decreased from 80.0 percent of the population in 2001 to 70.2 percent in 2013, and a likely cause of this is due to heightened immigration from Asia.
    ..............................
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_New_Zealand

    On 26 April 2005, he said: "Māori will be disturbed to know that in 17 years' time they will be outnumbered by Asians in New Zealand" – an estimate disputed by Statistics New Zealand, the government's statistics bureau. Peters quickly rebutted that Statistics New Zealand had underestimated the growth-rate of the Asian community in the past.[36]

    In April 2008, then deputy New Zealand First Party leader Peter Brown drew widespread attention after voicing similar views and expressing concern at the increase in New Zealand's ethnic Asian population: "We are going to flood this country with Asian people with no idea what we are going to do with them when they come here."[37] "The matter is serious. If we continue this open door policy there is real danger we will be inundated with people who have no intention of integrating into our society. The greater the number, the greater the risk. They will form their own mini-societies to the detriment of integration and that will lead to division, friction and resentment."

    The European grouping significantly decreased from 80.0 percent of the population in 2001 to 70.2 percent in 2013, and a likely cause of this is due to heightened immigration from Asia.

    Wow — that is a linguistic atrocity! Even worse is the soft-pedaling of the obvious. Immigration increases the number of non-natives. This is in doubt? What the fuck?

  172. @Dumbo

    The coronavirus pandemic has unleashed a torrent of anti-Asian racism in America that shows no signs of abating. Asian-Americans have been spat on in the streets, harassed and insulted.
     
    But is it true? Haven't seen or heard of any Asian people being harassed, much less being "spat on in the streets". What I see commonly is Asians spitting in the streets, but that's another thing.

    Nearly 80 years ago, Japanese-Americans were forced from their homes into barren internment camps.
     
    So? Chinese as Yang should be happy, as many Chinese were enslaved or killed by the Japanese.
    Japanese, Chinese (and Koreans) hate each other on account of WWII. Not sure about Filipinos, though. Which side were they on?

    But is it true? Haven’t seen or heard of any Asian people being harassed, much less being “spat on in the streets”. What I see commonly is Asians spitting in the streets, but that’s another thing.

    Right. “Is it true?” is a good question? Another good question is “So what?”

  173. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    My cousin, who spent years getting his pilot’s license and years more looking for a job, just lost his first job due to coronavirus panic.

    Another cousin, the manager of a retail store, just had to lay off her entire workforce by conference call.

    This is not like losing a loved one of course, it’s just illustrative of all the millions of real people whose lives are being destroyed by utterly unnecessary and hysterical overreaction.

    I’m sorry, Buzz. This needs to stop now.

  174. @Jack D
    America is a great country.

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans. This flares up periodically in the form of anti-Japanese boycotts, smashing Japanese businesses, etc. but even when it's not flaring it's a continuing undercurrent of seething hatred and bad memories. The Koreans bring up the subject of reparations for the "comfort women" (Korean women allegedly forced into prostitution by the Japanese military) at every opportunity even though they are down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.

    But in the US, Japanese are just fellow Asians and Chinese-Americans and Korean-Americans can use Japanese internment 80 years ago as evidence of current anti-Asian prejudice by Americans and a stick with which to beat whitey. And as Steve says, never mind that American Chinese and Filipinos were among the most enthusiastic endorsers of the idea of interning Japanese enemies at the time.

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and their atrocities in Nanking and elsewhere was that this was accompanied by a great outpouring of love and assistance for our (then non-Communist) brave Chinese allies and Chinese were portrayed very positively in American popular culture at that time. But forget that part, what about the "internment of Asian-Americans"?

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor . . . .

    Do you consider their surprise attack more or less dastardly than FDR’s decision to maximize the deaths and destruction at Pearl Harbor by sending false “intelligence”?

  175. @YetAnotherAnon
    " a cheap Holocaust knockoff with Japan as The Dev Ull"

    The actions of the Japanese in China before WW2, and during WW2 in Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Sumatra, Java etc were disgraceful.

    Yes, but J.Ross is still correct. The current conflict is not about lingering anger over the atrocities of 75 years ago but about current conditions. There is an element of that in the Middle East too.

    Note for example that Taiwanese tend to get along great with Japanese, and among nations like Thailand and Burma, which don’t have the shoulder chip about being the center of the world, animosity to Japanese is much less

  176. @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4Ebv-FzP60
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xen70_Okllw

    I’m just finishing the third volume of the official US Army history of the China-Burma-India Theater. The notion that the Chinese people rose up as one to fight the Japs, uh, err, Japanese, is ludicrous. Chiang Kai-shek didn’t want to fight them at all. He wanted the US to fight them for him. With air power, because he didn’t want a lot if Americans in China. All the while, we were to be loading him up with arms so that, after we’d kicked out the, umm, Japanese, for him, he could defeat the Reds. As horrid as the Commies gave been for seventy years, Chiang deserved to have his @ss kicked out of China.

    • Disagree: The Wild Geese Howard
    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_284CTOzhRk
  177. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    Condolences, Buzz.

  178. @Lot
    Steve has been drifting away from Team Shutdown the last two weeks. He’s questioned particular aspects of the shutdown and wants to start reopening things based on hard data.

    My view was at the time, with the info we had in early March, shutdowns were the right move.

    Now thanks to a lot more info, I switched over to Team Reopen. Steve basically has too, and much of the right is moving there as well.

    CV has been a strange virus that seems to have caused a lot of damage in a few towns in Italy and Spain, plus the New York area, and can kill off a big part of nursing homes in a matter of weeks. Everywhere else, it’s a bad seasonal flu. Getting things right with conflicting information like that isn’t easy.

    A lot of us seem to have followed that same trajectory, Lot.

  179. @syonredux

    The Japanese slaughtered rebels and attempted to turn non-rebels into Japanese, using pacification tactics familiar to the Greeks and Romans from antiquity.
     
    Julius Caesar was a very unpleasant fellow....

    A cache of bones and artifacts buried at a site near to where the Waal and Meuse rivers meet testify to a genocidal slaughter of tragic proportions. As recorded by Julius Caesar himself, a bloody battle took place in 55 BC resulting in the genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople, including women and children, in what is now Netherlands.
     

    “I sent the cavalry behind to them.
    “The Germans heard screams behind him, and when they saw that their wives and children were slain, they threw down their weapons and ran headlong away from the camp.
    “When they had come to the point where the Meuse and Rhine rivers flow together, they saw no good in further flights.
    “A large number of them were slain, and the rest fell into the river, where they died overwhelmed by anxiety, fatigue and strength of the current.” — Caesar, De Bello Gallico Book 4, 14-15
     
    https://www.ancient-origins.net/news-history-archaeology/150000-fled-their-lives-were-slaughtered-julius-caesar-army-bones-reveal-020659

    A cache of bones and artifacts buried at a site near to where the Waal and Meuse rivers meet testify to a genocidal slaughter of tragic proportions. As recorded by Julius Caesar himself, a bloody battle took place in 55 BC resulting in the genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople, including women and children, in what is now Netherlands.

    A “genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople” is literally impossible. A genocide is always “of” a group.

    • Replies: @Lot
    The article Syon linked to was crap. It made it seem like Caesar killed a bunch of refugees, not a tribe that had invaded Gaul and demanded Rome displace its allies to provide them land.

    As a matter of grammar I agree with your point. But if we define a genocide as killing more than half of an ethnic group, including women and children, in total or within a large area, this event may qualify.

    A gens in Latin is much closer in meaning to tribe than ethnicity, so that’s a point favoring calling the event genocide.

    On the other hand, the individual Germanic tribes may not qualify as ethnic groups, as they appear to have melded together and split apart quite a bit. So it was nothing like the Armenian Genocide for example.
  180. @Charles Erwin Wilson Three

    The actions of the Japanese in China before WW2, and during WW2 in Malaysia, Thailand, Burma, Sumatra, Java etc were disgraceful.
     
    You have a generous soul. What the Japanese did qualify as the worst atrocities we know. Maybe they did not exceed the Nazis, Stalin, and Mao, but they matched them.

    If you do not think so, just reread the accounts of the Bataan Death March.

    If you do not think so, just reread the accounts of the Bataan Death March.

    Unit 731 says hello:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731

  181. @MBlanc46
    I’m just finishing the third volume of the official US Army history of the China-Burma-India Theater. The notion that the Chinese people rose up as one to fight the Japs, uh, err, Japanese, is ludicrous. Chiang Kai-shek didn’t want to fight them at all. He wanted the US to fight them for him. With air power, because he didn’t want a lot if Americans in China. All the while, we were to be loading him up with arms so that, after we’d kicked out the, umm, Japanese, for him, he could defeat the Reds. As horrid as the Commies gave been for seventy years, Chiang deserved to have his @ss kicked out of China.

  182. @Lot
    “ It turns out that Michael Barbaro is Gay and Jewish ”

    He’s had one male spouse and is now engaged to a woman, so half gay. Also half Jewish, Barbaro’s father is Italian-American.

    Ronan Farrow appears to be another half-gay half jewish journalist, but this depends on Woody’s iffy paternity.

    He’s had one male spouse and is now engaged to a woman, so half gay. Also half Jewish, Barbaro’s father is Italian-American.

    He’ll soon be converting to Catholicism.

  183. @ben tillman

    A cache of bones and artifacts buried at a site near to where the Waal and Meuse rivers meet testify to a genocidal slaughter of tragic proportions. As recorded by Julius Caesar himself, a bloody battle took place in 55 BC resulting in the genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople, including women and children, in what is now Netherlands.
     
    A "genocide of between 150,000 and 200,000 Germanic tribespeople" is literally impossible. A genocide is always "of" a group.

    The article Syon linked to was crap. It made it seem like Caesar killed a bunch of refugees, not a tribe that had invaded Gaul and demanded Rome displace its allies to provide them land.

    As a matter of grammar I agree with your point. But if we define a genocide as killing more than half of an ethnic group, including women and children, in total or within a large area, this event may qualify.

    A gens in Latin is much closer in meaning to tribe than ethnicity, so that’s a point favoring calling the event genocide.

    On the other hand, the individual Germanic tribes may not qualify as ethnic groups, as they appear to have melded together and split apart quite a bit. So it was nothing like the Armenian Genocide for example.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    . It made it seem like Caesar killed a bunch of refugees, not a tribe that had invaded Gaul and demanded Rome displace its allies to provide them land.
     
    Of course, Caesar had already done a bit of invading in Gaulish territory.....

    As many as a million people (probably 1 in 5 of the Gauls) died, another million were enslaved,[23] 300 clans were subjugated and 800 cities were destroyed during the Gallic Wars.[24] The entire population of the city of Avaricum (Bourges) (40,000 in all) were slaughtered.[25] Before Julius Caesar's campaign against the Helvetii (present-day Switzerland), the Helvetians had numbered 263,000, but afterwards only 100,000 remained, most of whom Caesar took as slaves.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul#Conquest_by_Rome
    , @ben tillman
    Killing 150,000 members of a tribe might constitute a genocide, but it will be a genocide of the tribe, not of the 150,000 people.
  184. @North Carolina Resident
    Canada rounded up Japanese and put them in internment camps also. I never see this when someone writes about what the US did.

    So did Brazil and New Caledonia.

  185. @anonymous
    With all due respect, that is probably the biggest whopper I have ever seen on this blog. Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, the creators and initial producers of Captain America, both served honorably in the U.S. military in WW II.
    Joe, in particular, was a lifelong Republican and, although Jewish by heritage, he was not a religious man. Far from it.
    To say that someone who regarded George W. Bush as a liberal wimp was a "Bolshevik" is just delusional.

    But all Jews are Bolsheviks – that’s the really important point that he was trying to make. Don’t allow yourself to be distracted by facts.

  186. Dear Miss Yang,

    Recognize the number 2263?

    The number of Japanese-American boys released from the camps to attend college.

    You forgot to include this fact.

  187. @Anonymous

    People like Jia do not consider themselves to be merely living in an imperialist metropole. They are here with the intent of colonizing the imperialist metropole, replacing the imperialist inhabitants, and terraforming it into a society that fits them and works for their benefit.
     
    No, East Asians have a planetary mindset. Wherever they go, they revolve around and serve what is most powerful and prestigious. So, while Chinese in China may into the China as Middle Kingdom, Chinese outside China could be totally servile to and revolve around whatever happens to be most prestigious and powerful.

    This is where East Asians are different from Jews who have a solar mindset. No matter how small in number, poor, weak, and starting out in a new place, they see themselves as the center of the universe around whom all of humanity must revolve. For the Chinese, the concept of Middle Kingdom is connected to the land. They are the Big Boss in China. Outside China, they look to serve the New Big Boss. In contrast, whether in Tel Aviv, New York, Los Angeles, London, Paris, Moscow, or etc. Jews feel humanity must revolve around and serve them.

    In Southeast Asia, Chinese maintain their Chinese-ness because they have little respect for the natives who are lower in IQ and achievement. But look at Chinese(and other East Asians) in the West, and they suck up to the power in a servile way. It may true that Chinese immigrants still have some sense of link to the old country, but the young ones almost completely lose their identity in no time. Same with Japanese, Koreans, Taiwanese, and etc. Or look at pathetic Hong Kong. Chinese people who've grown so used to being part of the great Western Empire that they wave the US flag during protests.

    Consider some of the prominent East Asian-American thinkers. Francis Fukuyama is of Japanese ancestry but a total toady to globalism and Zionism. While Jews in US do everything to serve Israel's power, survival, and interests, Fukuyama as emissary of his Jewish Masters goes to Japan and other Asian countries and urges mass immigration, globo-homo, and deracination. Japan has frighteningly low birth rates. A Japanese-American who cares about survival of Japan might look to Israel and Hungary as examples of sound and effective natal policy, but Fukuyama just serves his masters and calls for More Diversity for Japan, something Jews would NEVER do with Israel. Or take Amy Chua. She is married to a Jew and raising Jewish kids whose main loyalty is to Zion.

    The only three people with a kind of solar-centric view of themselves are now Jews, Hindus, and blacks. Jews because of their Covenant tradition. Hindus because of their own kind of ethno-religion. (Christianity is universalist, therefore undermines identity. Confucianism is ancestral and loses its meaning and pull in the modern world of nuclear families and/or atomized individualism.) And blacks think they be 'badass', so everyone should carry their jockstraps.
    Whites used to have a solar-centric view based on Christianity, Reason, and Race. There was a time when Christianity was almost synonymous with white power. But as it spread to non-whites all over, it is no longer particularly white. Reason also used to be the basis of white pride and power as the West pioneered rationalism and science in contrast to the Rest that was mired in customs, mysticism, and superstition. But as Reason(and even democracy) spread all over the world, it is no longer particularly white either. There was the element of Race, the view that whites are special as a people. But as 'racism' became the biggest sin in the West, it is NOT okay to be white.
    So now, both whites and East Asians in the West have planetary identities that revolve around those with Solar Will(though Hindus don't count yet in terms of power and prestige). So, in a way, the white dumping on Asians is a clash of planets. Whites, as they revere and serve the Jewish Sun, dare not speak against Jewish Power even though much of the white plight can be traced to Jewish Power. But you don't blame god or the sun. Suppose this virus came out of Israel. Would Trump and his followers be calling it the Jewish, Zionist, or Israeli flu or virus? Of course not. Do 'conservatives' have the guts to refer to HIV as Africa or Homo disease? No. They don't even have the courage and honesty to call Iraq War, Libya War, Syrian War, and etc by their proper name: "Wars for Israel".

    So, while criticism of how China handled this disease in the early stage is warranted -- and its possible link to wet markets and lack of food inspection in China -- , the way it's been done is a really a show of cowardice than courage. It's like Trump dumping on Muslims and Mexicans in 2016 while never mentioning that Jewish Power is the #1 force of Open Borders in EU and the US. It's like Trump calling Mexicans 'rapists' when the biggest rapists are blacks. Also, Jewish Power has been derailing his Presidency forever, even getting him impeached, but he is still in Syria and has Soleimani killed. And his minions cheer. And there is Tucker who calls China evil for its ethno-nationalism but in the next breath praises Israel for its national, border, and security policies.

    Also, people like Jia don't understand that this is about Power, not right or wrong. After WWII and especially after the end of the C0ld War, the US has gotten used to being the Lone Superpower. Indeed, even more so because Jewish Power now governs the US. Why does this matter? If US hadn't become so obeisant to Jewish Power and Israel, its sense of national interest would be focused on America itself. This was the case with men like Charles Lindbergh and the 'Arabists' who were once influential in US foreign policy. These people(who were both 'left' and 'right') were essentially post-imperialist and believed the US should focus on American issues. Therefore, the US should deal with the world pragmatically to pursue what is best for America. So, America should try to come to terms with any nation to live in peace and to trade. If such people were in power, there would be no need for antagonism with Iran or Russia. Just trade with them and get along. Anglo-Americans who once ruled America has no stake in Russia, Iran, or etc. They just had business interests around the world that could be accommodated through diplomacy.
    For such people, a multi-polar world is tolerable AS LONG AS Americans pursue American Interests in America. In contrast, Jews have direct stakes all over the world. They've gained key power in every Western European nation and many Eastern European nations. Especially with the creation of Israel, Jews are very mindful of power balance in North Africa and Middle East. Anglos never regarded Russia as part of their empire. Anglos were sometimes at odds with Russia but never thought to take it over. In contrast, Jews do want to takeover Russia, Poland, Hungary, Germany, France, and etc as globalist elites, which is why they promote globo-homo to use homos in every nation as their well-paid proxies. So, unlike Anglos who wanted to come to terms with and trade with other nations, Jews want to take over and control other nations. If not for Jewish Power in the US, would America be bitterly upset that Russia said NO to globo-homo? Because Jews rule the US and because Jews want it their way in Russia, Poland, Hungary, and MENA, they believe the US must be the lone superpower that isn't challenged by any nation in any part of the world. So, Russia has to be provoked and pressured in Ukraine of all places, a nation that is so close and vital to Russia but has NO rational purpose to the US. In 25 yrs, it will be a 100 yr anniversary of the end of WWII, but incredibly, the US military is still in Japan, South Korea, and encircling China from all sides. (And yet, China is the big bad aggressor.)

    It's understandable why people like Jia(and others all over the world) came to the US. Cleaner air, less repression, more individual freedom, and as yet, less corruption than in places in China, India etc. But they need to understand that the US, as vessel of Jewish supremacism, is the #1 force of evil in the world in terms of cultural pollution, neo-imperialism, near-genocidal policies in Middle East, utmost hypocrisy, and total amnesia. That's what they are serving.
    As for the NYT and its supposed 'liberal' Jews, they are the worst. On the one hand, Jewish Power has inflamed 'yellow peril' fears in movies, TV shows, and etc. Jewish-controlled Media ran with China-Dragon-Rising stories endlessly. And yet, these same Jews also play the Nice Guy and hug Asians as poor victims and bullies of Big Bad Trump. Jews did the same with Muslims. Hollywood made all these Muslims-are-terrorist movies over decades, but all of a sudden, they were best friends with Muslims against Trump and those 'Islamophobes', all the while pressuring Trump to remain in Syria and wreak more havoc against Arabs who defy Zionist Power.
    Anglos handed over their power to Jewish globalists. White Consciousness today is nothing but "how to appease Jews". Whites are surely upset about trends going against them, but one doesn't challenge one's Master. Even when a dog is beaten by its master, its wish is to win his approval. Whites are beaten most by Jews, but as Jews are the Master, whites cannot bark truth to the Master. So, what do whites do? They cozy up to the Master ever more in shows of rage and animus at targets that they believe will please the master. If the master kicks you, go hunt a rabbit and drop it at the master's feet in hope of approval. This is what Trump does. Whipped by Jews from day one, he goes hunting for Iran to win approval from Zionists. Tormented by Jews endlessly, he says troops will remain in Iraq and steal oil. Impeached by Democrats funded by Jews, the dog Trump bags Soleimani. Vilified by Jews, he signs legislation to shut down BDS. In this, he's no different than John McCain. Given what the Jewish media did to him in 2008, you'd think McCain would have grown a pair. But no, to his dying day, he was growling at Russia, Iran, Syria, and Trump to win approval from his Master.

    This is America, and this is why people like Jia are stupid to think justice and fairness are possible in a nation where a Christian baker is now being sued for... not baking a Tranny Transition Cake.
    Of course, as a 'good liberal' and mental minion of Jewish 'liberals', I'm sure Jia is on the globo-homo bandwagon and screaming 'Bake the Cake Bigot'. Ironically, even as Jia condemns American bigotry, Jia has something in common with Americans: The cowardly unwillingness to name the main culprit of why the US became such an evil force in the world: Jewish supremacist power.

    https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1249108040806207489

    Tl:dr Jews bad.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    It’s long Jack, but not that long. Perhaps you should free up some time and take it all in. It won’t hurt you, and perhaps may even help!
  188. @Lot
    The article Syon linked to was crap. It made it seem like Caesar killed a bunch of refugees, not a tribe that had invaded Gaul and demanded Rome displace its allies to provide them land.

    As a matter of grammar I agree with your point. But if we define a genocide as killing more than half of an ethnic group, including women and children, in total or within a large area, this event may qualify.

    A gens in Latin is much closer in meaning to tribe than ethnicity, so that’s a point favoring calling the event genocide.

    On the other hand, the individual Germanic tribes may not qualify as ethnic groups, as they appear to have melded together and split apart quite a bit. So it was nothing like the Armenian Genocide for example.

    . It made it seem like Caesar killed a bunch of refugees, not a tribe that had invaded Gaul and demanded Rome displace its allies to provide them land.

    Of course, Caesar had already done a bit of invading in Gaulish territory…..

    As many as a million people (probably 1 in 5 of the Gauls) died, another million were enslaved,[23] 300 clans were subjugated and 800 cities were destroyed during the Gallic Wars.[24] The entire population of the city of Avaricum (Bourges) (40,000 in all) were slaughtered.[25] Before Julius Caesar’s campaign against the Helvetii (present-day Switzerland), the Helvetians had numbered 263,000, but afterwards only 100,000 remained, most of whom Caesar took as slaves.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaul#Conquest_by_Rome

  189. Anon[603] • Disclaimer says:
    @syonredux
    Contest to kill 100 people using a sword

    The Contest to Kill 100 People Using A Sword (百人斬り競争, hyakunin-giri kyōsō) was a contest between Toshiaki Mukai and Tsuyoshi Noda, two Japanese Army officers, which took place during the Japanese invasion of China. The goal of the contest was to see who could kill 100 people the fastest while using a sword.
     

    In 1937, the Osaka Mainichi Shimbun and its sister newspaper, the Tokyo Nichi Nichi Shimbun covered a contest between two Japanese officers, Toshiaki Mukai (向井敏明) and Tsuyoshi Noda (野田毅), in which the two men were described as vying with one another to be the first to kill 100 people with a sword. The competition supposedly took place en route to Nanking, prior to the infamous Nanking Massacre, and was covered in four articles from November 30, 1937, to December 13, 1937; the last two being translated in the Japan Advertiser.
     

    Both officers supposedly surpassed their goal during the heat of battle, making it difficult to determine which officer had actually won the contest. Therefore (according to the journalists Asami Kazuo and Suzuki Jiro, writing in the Tokyo Nichi-Nichi Shimbun of December 13), they decided to begin another contest with the goal of 150 kills.[6] The Nichi Nichi headline of the story of December 13 read "'Incredible Record' [in the Contest to] Behead 100 People—Mukai 106 – 105 Noda—Both 2nd Lieutenants Go Into Extra Innings".
     

    Other soldiers and historians have noted the unlikelihood of the lieutenants' alleged heroics, which entailed killing enemy after enemy in fierce hand-to-hand combat.[4] Noda himself, on returning to his hometown, admitted this during a speech.
     

    "Actually, I didn't kill more than four or five people in hand-to-hand combat ... We'd face an enemy trench that we'd captured, and when we called out, "Ni, Lai-Lai!" (You, come here!), the Chinese soldiers were so stupid, they'd rush toward us all at once. Then we'd line them up and cut them down, from one end of the line to the other. I was praised for having killed a hundred people, but actually, almost all of them were killed in this way. The two of us did have a contest, but afterwards. I was often asked whether it was a big deal, and I said it was no big deal ..."[7]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contest_to_kill_100_people_using_a_sword

    I saw an odd bit of footage of an elderly Japanese man describing some horrific medical experiments done on Chinese during WW2. He seemed like a pleasant enough man, and he seemed bothered by what he’d been involved in, but his attitude was just like, ‘that’s how it was then…’ He seemed to have no idea that he was actually incriminating himself by describing these actions. If he’d done these things to Jews, I have absolutely no doubt he would have been imprisoned or executed for war crimes.

  190. Anonymous[603] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Tl:dr Jews bad.

    It’s long Jack, but not that long. Perhaps you should free up some time and take it all in. It won’t hurt you, and perhaps may even help!

  191. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    You are starting your own blog now,I take it?

  192. Anonymous[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    First of all, my deepest condolences to you and your wife for your loss. Life behind the Iron Curtain was no piece of cake. Think of the struggles that Americans are suddenly experiencing with getting food, toilet paper, etc. and multiply those by 10 and have them last for 50 years and you'll have some idea of what they had to endure on a daily basis. Simple things that we take for granted like hot water coming from your faucet might disappear for months on end. Things that people in America would donate to the thrift store or leave at the curb having the status of rare luxuries requiring special connections to obtain. Not to mention the constant, gnawing fear - who is an informer? Will I be arrested for some imaginary ideological crime? My children disqualified from higher education and made into 2nd class citizens because of some offhand remark I make?

    I don't blame you for lashing out in your grief, but Steve is not the one who banned international travel. As he has pointed out, even on domestic routes where travel is still entirely legal, passengers have virtually disappeared of their own accord, no government action needed. Your anger is misplaced.

    2nd, as for Steve's financial arrangements with Ron, they are really none of your business. Donate or don't as you wish but I don't have the feeling that Steve is living in luxury. Last I heard he was (or up until recently had been) driving a very old car. He doesn't regale us with tales of his ski vacations in Switzerland. I just don't have the feeling he is rolling in dough. I have no idea how much Ron is paying him, but I don't have the feeling that it would be enough without donations too so that's probably why he asks. He has had the good taste not to ask in the middle of this crisis when there are people that are hurting even more.

    I think all of us are trying to weigh the balance of the value of lives lost in the short term vs the consequences of a lockdown. Clearly, some people would like to set the balance in a different way and the dynamics of modern life means that there has been some overreaction, but it's a good thing that our society puts a high value on human life. Circling back to your recently departed mother in law, a good way to live your life is to think " What would Ceaușescu do?" and then do the exact opposite in each case. If he were here today instead of in hell where he richly deserves to be, Ceaușescu would have the planes flying.

    In California where cars rusteth not, why not drive an old car? If I lived there I’d have two or three old cars and daily drive them. No snow, no road salt, etc.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Old cars rusteth not, but in the fullness of time, they breaketh down.
    One of the nice things about being an Old Guy (OK Boomer!) is that you can afford to drive a car that won't crap out on you in the middle lane of the Long Island Expressway.
    , @Jack D
    There's nothing wrong with driving an older car. I was just making the point that Steve was not living a lifestyle of conspicuous consumption with all of the millions that Ron is paying him (not).

    You really can't win against time - the price of no road salt is that the relentless California sunshine will burn up your upholstery, dry out the rubber and plastics, etc. Nothing lasts forever, especially now that we are reaching the era where even 20 year old cars have extensive (and expensive) electronics.
  193. @syonredux

    Thanks. I also think the internment was excessive. But things like that happen during wartime. I guess my point of view boils down to: If that’s the worst they have to say about us–I can live with that.
     
    That's basically my take. Mass internment wasn't necessary, but it really doesn't measure up to the genuine atrocities that were committed during WW2: the mass bombings of cities by the US and UK (Hamburg, Dresden, Tokyo, etc), the wholesale slaughter of European Jewry by the Nazis, the Manila Massacre, the Rape of Nanking, the Katyn Massacre, etc.

    I probably would have ordered an internment if I were in government. There were real concerns about spying and danger to the Japanese themselves.

    All it would take would be a real instance of spying by a Japanese, along with a number of suspected spyings, and there would have been massacres and pogroms.

  194. @Bucky
    I suspect most Japan hatred in Asia is opportunistic and envy.

    For Koreans, it is a "little brother" syndrome where they are envious and want to be like the Japanese.

    For the Chinese, they amped up hatred of Japan after Tienanmen square. The Japanese were a useful target for nationalistic ire so that the CCP could stay ruling in place.

    For Koreans, it is a “little brother” syndrome where they are envious and want to be like the Japanese.

    Hatred of one people for another doesn’t come from something as banal as being “little brother.”

    The Japanese invaded and colonized Korea twice, once very destructively at the end of the 16th century and then again in the 20th century. It’s true that the legacy of the modern conquest is mixed. The Japanese began the industrialization and modernization of Korea. But that doesn’t compensate for (1) being subjugated and used by Japan, (2) the second-class status of the large Korean population in Japan, and (3) the humiliation connected to the “comfort women” issue.

    It ain’t just “little brother” syndrome, and it’s been a constant stumbling block for the US attempt to weld Japan and South Korea into an anti-China alliance.

    It’s true that the PRC’s use and promotion of anti-Japanese sentiment is often cynical. When the Japanese PM apologized to Chou en Lai in 1972 for Japanese behavior in China during WW II, Chou supposedly replied something to the effect of “It’s OK, your invasion help the CCP to come to power.” The environment has certainly changed since then.

    But let’s be realistic. If there weren’t a significant existing basis of anti-Japanese sentiment in China, the government wouldn’t be able to amp it up at need. The more powerful China becomes, the more Chinese are inclined to dwell on those who have wronged them (including the West but especially Japan) and see vengeance as a realistic option.

    • Replies: @Bucky
    Contrast with Vietnam.

    The viets hate the Chinese more than Americans, even though objectively, the Americans did far worse. The Americans killed millions, they waged chemical warfare, they raped women, they sanctioned the economy for decades, etc.

    Why is this?

    Because the leadership of the country wants it so. And as well, Vietnam won so they have had their vengeance.

    As for korea, they weren't *only* victims of Japan. They were also collaborators with japan. And their industries have grown to rival Japan.

    Another question in regards to korea: who behaved worse, the United States or Japan? 20% of the Korean peninsula was killed in the Korean war. The United States was the power behind the military dictatorship that ruled Korea brutally. And Korean women are comfort women to US troops.

    What is so different is the narciccism of small differences. The United States is other to korea, while Japan is brother.
  195. @Jack D
    America is a great country.

    Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans. This flares up periodically in the form of anti-Japanese boycotts, smashing Japanese businesses, etc. but even when it's not flaring it's a continuing undercurrent of seething hatred and bad memories. The Koreans bring up the subject of reparations for the "comfort women" (Korean women allegedly forced into prostitution by the Japanese military) at every opportunity even though they are down to a handful of very elderly survivors and the Japanese have already paid settlements that they thought concluded the matter.

    But in the US, Japanese are just fellow Asians and Chinese-Americans and Korean-Americans can use Japanese internment 80 years ago as evidence of current anti-Asian prejudice by Americans and a stick with which to beat whitey. And as Steve says, never mind that American Chinese and Filipinos were among the most enthusiastic endorsers of the idea of interning Japanese enemies at the time.

    The other forgotten aspect is that the flip side of American hatred of the Japanese for their dastardly surprise attack on Pearl Harbor and their atrocities in Nanking and elsewhere was that this was accompanied by a great outpouring of love and assistance for our (then non-Communist) brave Chinese allies and Chinese were portrayed very positively in American popular culture at that time. But forget that part, what about the "internment of Asian-Americans"?

    “Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans.”

    No.

    The only Asian countries that are fundamentally hostile to Japan are China and the two Koreas. Southeast Asian countries–yes, ones they invaded in WW II–actually have overall quite positive attitudes towards Japan, even more positive, perhaps surprisingly, than South Asia, which Japan never succeeded in conquering. I don’t think Central Asians and Middle Easterners have strong feelings one way or another.

    Aside from China and Korea, most Asians are not fixated on the question of Japan taking responsibility for WW II, or they feel that Japan has done enough in that regard.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Surely many Filipinos have bad memories? Even native Okinawans (nominally Japanese) have bad feelings about what was done to them in the war, where the Japanese military in effect forced the local population to commit suicide.

    Sure when it comes to political leaders, a lot of the ill feeling toward the Japan in China and SK is used for domestic political advantage and or bargaining leverage. The Chinese gov't would MUCH rather talk about Japanese atrocities than about much more recent Communist atrocities, for obvious reasons.

    There may be other (poorer) countries where the political and economic dynamics are different and the local leaders feel that have more to gain by making nice to the Japanese but the Japanese left a trail of atrocities pretty much everywhere they went .

    The US did exactly the same in the Cold War with the Japanese. Once the Korean War started and we needed Japan as a basing point and source of war materiel, the Japanese were our great friends and have remained so ever since. That little business at Pearl Harbor? Let bygones by bygones.
  196. @syonredux

    We never saw Superman or Captain America slapping or beating up Bolsheviks. Oh wait, Jewish Bolsheviks wrote and drew those comics. Never mind.

     

    http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-M5z81qz0vt0/UYdZDbaLIVI/AAAAAAAAKm4/Rs66sXMw3Y4/s1600/Captain+America+couverture+001.jpg

    http://www.coverbrowser.com/image/captain-america/76-2.jpg


    http://goldenagecomics.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/CA_77.jpg

    Actually, the “Captain America (CA) Commie Smasher” phase of the CA identity existed only during a brief, 10-month span in 1953-54 which coincided with two congressional investigations: one into comic books and their impact on youth and the second on Communist infiltration by Senator McCarthy’s committee.

    What later became Marvel Comics deployed the anti-Communist CA persona only until the threat from Capitol Hill abated. Then, in September of 1954, Captain America went back on the shelf until he was reinstated in 1964 with something much closer to his 1940s persona.

    In the 1970s, Marvel retconned the anti-communist persona:

    Marvel writers, “retroactively explained the character’s history, that the 1950s Cap and Bucky [Captain America’s sidekick] had actually not been Rogers and Barnes but William Burnside and Jack Monroe, two men who had been obsessed with Cap and Bucky. Burnside found the original Super-Soldier Serum formula, made his own batch, and injected himself and Monroe with it. Burnside even went so far as to legally change his name to Steve Rogers and get plastic surgery to make himself look like Rogers. The serum eventually drove both men insane, a convenient explanation for Cap’s commie-smashing days.”

    So the faux-anti-leftism that had been deployed temporarily to protect the comic book industry in the early 1950’s was then, in the 1970s, transformed implicitly into a new anti-rightism.

    I wouldn’t, however, use the term “Bolshevik” to describe the comic book ideologues. Frankfurt School cultural Marxist probably comes closer to the reality.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Walking it back can be difficult.
    , @syonredux

    Actually, the “Captain America (CA) Commie Smasher” phase of the CA identity existed only during a brief, 10-month span in 1953-54 which coincided with two congressional investigations: one into comic books and their impact on youth and the second on Communist infiltration by Senator McCarthy’s committee.
     
    Yeah, I knew that. The Timely Big 3 revival of the '50s (Captain America, Human Torch, Sub-Mariner) was notoriously unsuccessful.

    What later became Marvel Comics deployed the anti-Communist CA persona only until the threat from Capitol Hill abated. Then, in September of 1954, Captain America went back on the shelf until he was reinstated in 1964 with something much closer to his 1940s persona.
     
    Shelving CA had everything to do with low sales. As noted above, the attempt to revive the big 3 was a failure. Interestingly enough, the Sub-Mariner lasted longer than either CA or the Human Torch. Some have speculated that that was due to the possibility of a TV deal for the character.

    https://www.cbr.com/namor-sub-mariner-tv-show/
    , @syonredux
    Captain America's co-creators, Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, published a parody version of the anti-commie Cap in the '50s:

    Fighting American is the title character of a patriotically themed comic book character created in 1954 by the writer-artist team of Joe Simon and Jack Kirby.[1] Published by the Crestwood Publications imprint Prize Comics, it was, contrary to standard industry practices of the time, creator-owned. Harvey Comics published one additional issue in 1966. One final inventoried tale was published in 1989, in a Marvel Comics hardcover collection of all the Fighting American stories.
     

    Bitter that Timely Comics' 1950s iteration, Atlas Comics, had relaunched their hero Captain America in a new series in 1954, the writer-artist team of Joe Simon and Jack Kirby created another patriotically themed character, Fighting American. Simon recalled, "We thought we'd show them how to do Captain America".[2] While the comic book initially portrayed the protagonist as an anti-Communist dramatic hero, Simon and Kirby turned the series into a superhero satire with the second issue, in the aftermath of the Army-McCarthy hearings and the public backlash against the Red-baiting U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy.[3] Simon specified for a panel audience at the 1974 New York Comic Art Convention that the character was not so much inspired by Captain America as it was simply a product of the times.[4]
     

    Simon said in 1989 that he felt the anti-Communist fervor of the era would provide antagonists who, like the Nazis who fought Captain America during World War II, would be "colorful, outrageous and perfect foils for our hero." He went on to say,

     


    The first stories were deadly serious. Fighting American was the first [C]ommie-basher in comics. We were all caught up in Senator McCarthy's vendetta against the 'red menace.' But soon it became evident that McCarthy ... had gone too far, damaging innocent Americans.... Then, the turnaround, [as] his side became talked of as the lunatic fringe.... Jack and I quickly became uncomfortable with Fighting American's cold war. Instead, we relaxed and had fun with the characters.[5]
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_American




    https://kirbymuseum.org/blogs/simonandkirby/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2006/11/FightingAmerican1.jpg
  197. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    In California where cars rusteth not, why not drive an old car? If I lived there I’d have two or three old cars and daily drive them. No snow, no road salt, etc.

    Old cars rusteth not, but in the fullness of time, they breaketh down.
    One of the nice things about being an Old Guy (OK Boomer!) is that you can afford to drive a car that won’t crap out on you in the middle lane of the Long Island Expressway.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Stuff happens and it happens more the older your car is, but if you keep up replacing certain maintenance items (batteries, fan belts, tires, etc.) then your older car is much less likely to crap out on you. Airlines fly (or until recently, flew) jets that are 20 or 30 years old with terrific safety. They never crap out 30,000 feet in the air despite being the age that most cars are in the junkyard and being 100x more complex than a car. The secret is rigorous adherence to a maintenance schedule. If you wait until stuff breaks then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Car batteries are generally not worth a damn after 4 years. They will be good enough to start your car on a perfect spring day but if it's hotter or colder, if the car needs to crank a little more than usual, etc. it will crap out on you. And Murphy's Law says it will be at the most inconvenient time and place possible. Most batteries carry at least a pro-rated warranty and even if they don't, they are usually under $100, so have your 4 year old battery load tested where you bought it even if it seems OK and chances are it's going to fail the load test and they will give you at least some credit on a new one and it will be the best $50 you ever spent on the reliability your car ( this will true whether the car is 4 years old or 8 or 16). If you want to improve your odds of getting a new one, bring it to them in another car and maybe run down a little bit. Even an old crappy battery will hold a charge for a few minutes and if you have freshly charged your battery up on the drive to the parts store it's going to test better than it really is.

  198. @Anonymous
    In California where cars rusteth not, why not drive an old car? If I lived there I’d have two or three old cars and daily drive them. No snow, no road salt, etc.

    There’s nothing wrong with driving an older car. I was just making the point that Steve was not living a lifestyle of conspicuous consumption with all of the millions that Ron is paying him (not).

    You really can’t win against time – the price of no road salt is that the relentless California sunshine will burn up your upholstery, dry out the rubber and plastics, etc. Nothing lasts forever, especially now that we are reaching the era where even 20 year old cars have extensive (and expensive) electronics.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    My 1998 Infiniti I30 drives nicely still, but who knows what would fail in a crash? Do the airbags still work?

    I was vaguely hoping to finally trade it in this year, but that probably won't happen.

  199. Anon[694] • Disclaimer says:

    When the outbreak started in China, Asians whined about people avoiding Chinatown and Asian restaurants. But the majority of their customers were Asian to begin with, so it was Asians avoiding other Asians. Where I live, you can’t walk two miles without encountering a Chinese restaurant serving regional Chinese cuisine, all opened in the last 5 years or so, run by people straight out of China who could barely speak English. There’s even a place that serves “Wuhan noodles”. I don’t think these places should receive any of our $350B small biz stimulus. They should all be sent packing. And Trump should extend the ban on travelers from China — permanently.

    Even non-Chinese Asians (like me) hate people from China. They make all Asians look bad, even before the virus, now it’s much worse.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    A great many of the employees at these Chinese restaurants are illegal aliens, #694. I've gotten this information from both American and Chinese sources. It's a much more organized thing than the Hispanic illegal immigration. See The China to King Buffet Pipline.
  200. @Forbes
    Some questions answer themselves...

    Q: I don’t see where the hatred is?
    A: Asian Americans are being targeted... Implicitly by White Americans.

    Really? I thought it was mostly blacks beating them up. I mean, blacks actually been beating them up Asians for a long time, but now they are beating them up for virus related reasons. At least that’s what every single video of Asians getting harassed has indicated.

  201. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oscar Peterson
    Actually, the "Captain America (CA) Commie Smasher" phase of the CA identity existed only during a brief, 10-month span in 1953-54 which coincided with two congressional investigations: one into comic books and their impact on youth and the second on Communist infiltration by Senator McCarthy's committee.

    What later became Marvel Comics deployed the anti-Communist CA persona only until the threat from Capitol Hill abated. Then, in September of 1954, Captain America went back on the shelf until he was reinstated in 1964 with something much closer to his 1940s persona.

    In the 1970s, Marvel retconned the anti-communist persona:

    Marvel writers, "retroactively explained the character’s history, that the 1950s Cap and Bucky [Captain America's sidekick] had actually not been Rogers and Barnes but William Burnside and Jack Monroe, two men who had been obsessed with Cap and Bucky. Burnside found the original Super-Soldier Serum formula, made his own batch, and injected himself and Monroe with it. Burnside even went so far as to legally change his name to Steve Rogers and get plastic surgery to make himself look like Rogers. The serum eventually drove both men insane, a convenient explanation for Cap’s commie-smashing days."

    So the faux-anti-leftism that had been deployed temporarily to protect the comic book industry in the early 1950's was then, in the 1970s, transformed implicitly into a new anti-rightism.

    I wouldn't, however, use the term "Bolshevik" to describe the comic book ideologues. Frankfurt School cultural Marxist probably comes closer to the reality.

    Walking it back can be difficult.

  202. @Oscar Peterson

    "Back in Asia, virtually all other Asians hate Japan with a passion, because of their Nazi-like behavior during WWII and the fact that (in their view) the Japanese have never quite taken responsibility for their atrocities in the same way as the Germans."
     
    No.

    The only Asian countries that are fundamentally hostile to Japan are China and the two Koreas. Southeast Asian countries--yes, ones they invaded in WW II--actually have overall quite positive attitudes towards Japan, even more positive, perhaps surprisingly, than South Asia, which Japan never succeeded in conquering. I don't think Central Asians and Middle Easterners have strong feelings one way or another.

    Aside from China and Korea, most Asians are not fixated on the question of Japan taking responsibility for WW II, or they feel that Japan has done enough in that regard.

    Surely many Filipinos have bad memories? Even native Okinawans (nominally Japanese) have bad feelings about what was done to them in the war, where the Japanese military in effect forced the local population to commit suicide.

    Sure when it comes to political leaders, a lot of the ill feeling toward the Japan in China and SK is used for domestic political advantage and or bargaining leverage. The Chinese gov’t would MUCH rather talk about Japanese atrocities than about much more recent Communist atrocities, for obvious reasons.

    There may be other (poorer) countries where the political and economic dynamics are different and the local leaders feel that have more to gain by making nice to the Japanese but the Japanese left a trail of atrocities pretty much everywhere they went .

    The US did exactly the same in the Cold War with the Japanese. Once the Korean War started and we needed Japan as a basing point and source of war materiel, the Japanese were our great friends and have remained so ever since. That little business at Pearl Harbor? Let bygones by bygones.

    • Replies: @syonredux

    Surely many Filipinos have bad memories?
     
    I know a few who are quite hostile towards the Japanese.For example, I know an East Asian Studies prof who's married to a Filipina, and she once vetoed a trip to Japan that he was planning. The idea of being surrounded by Japanese people was too much for her....


    And I've always suspected that Michelle Malkin's pro- Japanese internment ideas have something to do with her ethnic background...

    , @Johann Ricke

    The US did exactly the same in the Cold War with the Japanese. Once the Korean War started and we needed Japan as a basing point and source of war materiel, the Japanese were our great friends and have remained so ever since. That little business at Pearl Harbor? Let bygones by bygones.
     
    The English and the French fought each other for close to a thousand years, with numberless atrocities on both sides in that interval. After Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo, that hostility began to ebb. If England and France could make peace, and become allies, occasional friends even, it's not such a stretch for the US and Japan, which had been hostile for a period of single-digit years.
    , @Oscar Peterson
    Well, the Okinawans have bad memories about being incorporated into the Japanese state in the first place. If it comes to that, the Ainu have bad memories too. Their views are closer to those of Koreans, but they can't express them the way Koreans can.

    As far as the Philippines go, sure there are some residual antipathy, but most of those memories are dying out. 1945 was 75 years ago after all. Most living Filipinos are too young to have much recollection of WW II. Unlike the Japanese occupation of Korea that lasted 40 years or so, the Japanese occupation of the Philippines was only 3 1/2 years. So despite the atrocities and destruction of much of Manila, the Japanese were a blip, and since the war, they have been generous with aid via the Asian Development Bank, have made repeated statements of regret, and are a model of how a well ordered society functions. Not every Filipino migrant worker has a great experience in Japan, but surveys of Filipino opinion show general positive feelings for Japan. The same is true throughout Southeast Asia.

    The Southeast Asians are rather forgiving--to outsiders if not to one another. Vietnamese have generally positive feelings about the US, and we left a lot more destruction and dislocation than the Japanese did (though we didn't cause a famine by requisitioning the rice harvest.)

    Outside of China and Korea, the WW II historical memory of East Asia and associated feelings of hostility to Japan have not endured.
  203. @anonymous
    Old cars rusteth not, but in the fullness of time, they breaketh down.
    One of the nice things about being an Old Guy (OK Boomer!) is that you can afford to drive a car that won't crap out on you in the middle lane of the Long Island Expressway.

    Stuff happens and it happens more the older your car is, but if you keep up replacing certain maintenance items (batteries, fan belts, tires, etc.) then your older car is much less likely to crap out on you. Airlines fly (or until recently, flew) jets that are 20 or 30 years old with terrific safety. They never crap out 30,000 feet in the air despite being the age that most cars are in the junkyard and being 100x more complex than a car. The secret is rigorous adherence to a maintenance schedule. If you wait until stuff breaks then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Car batteries are generally not worth a damn after 4 years. They will be good enough to start your car on a perfect spring day but if it’s hotter or colder, if the car needs to crank a little more than usual, etc. it will crap out on you. And Murphy’s Law says it will be at the most inconvenient time and place possible. Most batteries carry at least a pro-rated warranty and even if they don’t, they are usually under $100, so have your 4 year old battery load tested where you bought it even if it seems OK and chances are it’s going to fail the load test and they will give you at least some credit on a new one and it will be the best $50 you ever spent on the reliability your car ( this will true whether the car is 4 years old or 8 or 16). If you want to improve your odds of getting a new one, bring it to them in another car and maybe run down a little bit. Even an old crappy battery will hold a charge for a few minutes and if you have freshly charged your battery up on the drive to the parts store it’s going to test better than it really is.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Sound advice, Mr. D, but I was not talking maintenance items. As long as you avoid buying rolling junk (like my late unlamented Ford Escort...blew a head gasket at a little over 40,000 miles and ate timing belts like M&Ms*), a modern car should be good for over 100K miles.
    But!
    When something strange and modern goes south while you are driving at a brisk speed, e.g. crankshaft position sensor, it can be expensive, especially if you can't stop in time before timing chain is damaged.
    New cars rarely do that.

    * To add insult to injury, the Escort was slow...could hardly get out of its own smoke.



    P.S. If I could find a mechanic who would maintain my cars like airplanes, my views on this would be very different.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Fan belts? Dude...

    I don't think the jets are more complex than modern cars, either. They have more and much bigger "systems", so to speak. However, the manufacturers don't do the fancy stuff that makes car repair so complex and difficult now. Airplane parts are much more easily worked on and/or swapped out. Certain critical little parts must not be left out though, that in a car might cause a problem later, but in a jet may cause a disaster.

    I agree about the batteries and getting test results at the parts store, Jack. I used to have batteries last 10 years, even with a decent amount of abuse. You are lucky to get 4 out of one now. $100 doesn't get you a good one either. They've gone up from $80 for a good one to more like $125 over the last 20 years.

    A mechanic friends says "take care of the little stuff, and the big stuff will take care of itself." That goes through 150,000 to 200,000 miles. Automatic transmissions have a lifetime, no matter how well you treat em.

    Do you have a stick shift in the Honda, Steve?
    , @Truth

    Car batteries are generally not worth a damn after 4 years
     
    , a car battery can last a lifetime.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYXx70MqJ-0
  204. @Thoughts
    Now that Asian women are taking the lead in the Hate Whitey movement (because it benefits them of course...and Asians do whatever is the most beneficial)

    Are there any white guys married to Asian women who have realized that their marriage...is exactly the same thing...Asian girls wipe out the white DNA and get your $$$

    I will never forget my dating days and how badly I was treated by white men with yellow fever...men hell-bent on creating some bizarre uber-race that would one day run amock over pure white kids...

    This is fascinating. Could you share with us the horrible treatment you received from white men who liked Asian women?

  205. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Stuff happens and it happens more the older your car is, but if you keep up replacing certain maintenance items (batteries, fan belts, tires, etc.) then your older car is much less likely to crap out on you. Airlines fly (or until recently, flew) jets that are 20 or 30 years old with terrific safety. They never crap out 30,000 feet in the air despite being the age that most cars are in the junkyard and being 100x more complex than a car. The secret is rigorous adherence to a maintenance schedule. If you wait until stuff breaks then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Car batteries are generally not worth a damn after 4 years. They will be good enough to start your car on a perfect spring day but if it's hotter or colder, if the car needs to crank a little more than usual, etc. it will crap out on you. And Murphy's Law says it will be at the most inconvenient time and place possible. Most batteries carry at least a pro-rated warranty and even if they don't, they are usually under $100, so have your 4 year old battery load tested where you bought it even if it seems OK and chances are it's going to fail the load test and they will give you at least some credit on a new one and it will be the best $50 you ever spent on the reliability your car ( this will true whether the car is 4 years old or 8 or 16). If you want to improve your odds of getting a new one, bring it to them in another car and maybe run down a little bit. Even an old crappy battery will hold a charge for a few minutes and if you have freshly charged your battery up on the drive to the parts store it's going to test better than it really is.

    Sound advice, Mr. D, but I was not talking maintenance items. As long as you avoid buying rolling junk (like my late unlamented Ford Escort…blew a head gasket at a little over 40,000 miles and ate timing belts like M&Ms*), a modern car should be good for over 100K miles.
    But!
    When something strange and modern goes south while you are driving at a brisk speed, e.g. crankshaft position sensor, it can be expensive, especially if you can’t stop in time before timing chain is damaged.
    New cars rarely do that.

    * To add insult to injury, the Escort was slow…could hardly get out of its own smoke.

    P.S. If I could find a mechanic who would maintain my cars like airplanes, my views on this would be very different.

  206. @Lot
    The article Syon linked to was crap. It made it seem like Caesar killed a bunch of refugees, not a tribe that had invaded Gaul and demanded Rome displace its allies to provide them land.

    As a matter of grammar I agree with your point. But if we define a genocide as killing more than half of an ethnic group, including women and children, in total or within a large area, this event may qualify.

    A gens in Latin is much closer in meaning to tribe than ethnicity, so that’s a point favoring calling the event genocide.

    On the other hand, the individual Germanic tribes may not qualify as ethnic groups, as they appear to have melded together and split apart quite a bit. So it was nothing like the Armenian Genocide for example.

    Killing 150,000 members of a tribe might constitute a genocide, but it will be a genocide of the tribe, not of the 150,000 people.

  207. @Oscar Peterson
    Actually, the "Captain America (CA) Commie Smasher" phase of the CA identity existed only during a brief, 10-month span in 1953-54 which coincided with two congressional investigations: one into comic books and their impact on youth and the second on Communist infiltration by Senator McCarthy's committee.

    What later became Marvel Comics deployed the anti-Communist CA persona only until the threat from Capitol Hill abated. Then, in September of 1954, Captain America went back on the shelf until he was reinstated in 1964 with something much closer to his 1940s persona.

    In the 1970s, Marvel retconned the anti-communist persona:

    Marvel writers, "retroactively explained the character’s history, that the 1950s Cap and Bucky [Captain America's sidekick] had actually not been Rogers and Barnes but William Burnside and Jack Monroe, two men who had been obsessed with Cap and Bucky. Burnside found the original Super-Soldier Serum formula, made his own batch, and injected himself and Monroe with it. Burnside even went so far as to legally change his name to Steve Rogers and get plastic surgery to make himself look like Rogers. The serum eventually drove both men insane, a convenient explanation for Cap’s commie-smashing days."

    So the faux-anti-leftism that had been deployed temporarily to protect the comic book industry in the early 1950's was then, in the 1970s, transformed implicitly into a new anti-rightism.

    I wouldn't, however, use the term "Bolshevik" to describe the comic book ideologues. Frankfurt School cultural Marxist probably comes closer to the reality.

    Actually, the “Captain America (CA) Commie Smasher” phase of the CA identity existed only during a brief, 10-month span in 1953-54 which coincided with two congressional investigations: one into comic books and their impact on youth and the second on Communist infiltration by Senator McCarthy’s committee.

    Yeah, I knew that. The Timely Big 3 revival of the ’50s (Captain America, Human Torch, Sub-Mariner) was notoriously unsuccessful.

    What later became Marvel Comics deployed the anti-Communist CA persona only until the threat from Capitol Hill abated. Then, in September of 1954, Captain America went back on the shelf until he was reinstated in 1964 with something much closer to his 1940s persona.

    Shelving CA had everything to do with low sales. As noted above, the attempt to revive the big 3 was a failure. Interestingly enough, the Sub-Mariner lasted longer than either CA or the Human Torch. Some have speculated that that was due to the possibility of a TV deal for the character.

    https://www.cbr.com/namor-sub-mariner-tv-show/

    • Replies: @Oscar Peterson
    The low sales were completely predictable given the superhero bust. If sales prospects had been the primary consideration, they would never have re-launched in 1953. But, there were other considerations...
  208. @Jack D
    Surely many Filipinos have bad memories? Even native Okinawans (nominally Japanese) have bad feelings about what was done to them in the war, where the Japanese military in effect forced the local population to commit suicide.

    Sure when it comes to political leaders, a lot of the ill feeling toward the Japan in China and SK is used for domestic political advantage and or bargaining leverage. The Chinese gov't would MUCH rather talk about Japanese atrocities than about much more recent Communist atrocities, for obvious reasons.

    There may be other (poorer) countries where the political and economic dynamics are different and the local leaders feel that have more to gain by making nice to the Japanese but the Japanese left a trail of atrocities pretty much everywhere they went .

    The US did exactly the same in the Cold War with the Japanese. Once the Korean War started and we needed Japan as a basing point and source of war materiel, the Japanese were our great friends and have remained so ever since. That little business at Pearl Harbor? Let bygones by bygones.

    Surely many Filipinos have bad memories?

    I know a few who are quite hostile towards the Japanese.For example, I know an East Asian Studies prof who’s married to a Filipina, and she once vetoed a trip to Japan that he was planning. The idea of being surrounded by Japanese people was too much for her….

    And I’ve always suspected that Michelle Malkin’s pro- Japanese internment ideas have something to do with her ethnic background…

  209. @Oscar Peterson
    Actually, the "Captain America (CA) Commie Smasher" phase of the CA identity existed only during a brief, 10-month span in 1953-54 which coincided with two congressional investigations: one into comic books and their impact on youth and the second on Communist infiltration by Senator McCarthy's committee.

    What later became Marvel Comics deployed the anti-Communist CA persona only until the threat from Capitol Hill abated. Then, in September of 1954, Captain America went back on the shelf until he was reinstated in 1964 with something much closer to his 1940s persona.

    In the 1970s, Marvel retconned the anti-communist persona:

    Marvel writers, "retroactively explained the character’s history, that the 1950s Cap and Bucky [Captain America's sidekick] had actually not been Rogers and Barnes but William Burnside and Jack Monroe, two men who had been obsessed with Cap and Bucky. Burnside found the original Super-Soldier Serum formula, made his own batch, and injected himself and Monroe with it. Burnside even went so far as to legally change his name to Steve Rogers and get plastic surgery to make himself look like Rogers. The serum eventually drove both men insane, a convenient explanation for Cap’s commie-smashing days."

    So the faux-anti-leftism that had been deployed temporarily to protect the comic book industry in the early 1950's was then, in the 1970s, transformed implicitly into a new anti-rightism.

    I wouldn't, however, use the term "Bolshevik" to describe the comic book ideologues. Frankfurt School cultural Marxist probably comes closer to the reality.

    Captain America’s co-creators, Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, published a parody version of the anti-commie Cap in the ’50s:

    Fighting American is the title character of a patriotically themed comic book character created in 1954 by the writer-artist team of Joe Simon and Jack Kirby.[1] Published by the Crestwood Publications imprint Prize Comics, it was, contrary to standard industry practices of the time, creator-owned. Harvey Comics published one additional issue in 1966. One final inventoried tale was published in 1989, in a Marvel Comics hardcover collection of all the Fighting American stories.

    Bitter that Timely Comics’ 1950s iteration, Atlas Comics, had relaunched their hero Captain America in a new series in 1954, the writer-artist team of Joe Simon and Jack Kirby created another patriotically themed character, Fighting American. Simon recalled, “We thought we’d show them how to do Captain America”.[2] While the comic book initially portrayed the protagonist as an anti-Communist dramatic hero, Simon and Kirby turned the series into a superhero satire with the second issue, in the aftermath of the Army-McCarthy hearings and the public backlash against the Red-baiting U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy.[3] Simon specified for a panel audience at the 1974 New York Comic Art Convention that the character was not so much inspired by Captain America as it was simply a product of the times.[4]

    Simon said in 1989 that he felt the anti-Communist fervor of the era would provide antagonists who, like the Nazis who fought Captain America during World War II, would be “colorful, outrageous and perfect foils for our hero.” He went on to say,

    The first stories were deadly serious. Fighting American was the first [C]ommie-basher in comics. We were all caught up in Senator McCarthy’s vendetta against the ‘red menace.’ But soon it became evident that McCarthy … had gone too far, damaging innocent Americans…. Then, the turnaround, [as] his side became talked of as the lunatic fringe…. Jack and I quickly became uncomfortable with Fighting American’s cold war. Instead, we relaxed and had fun with the characters.[5]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_American

    • Thanks: Oscar Peterson
  210. @Anonymous
    I... hate to point out an obvious flaw, but... the Chinese tend to be hella racist, enough so to make the most committed modern American Klansman blush, and they don’t care who knows it. For a Chinese woman to smear Americans by issuing that asinine charge, while ignoring the racist horror show in China is, like too much of Chinese culture, bizarre.

    https://twitter.com/daddyhope/status/1249016415618764800

    She’ll probably marry the tallest lightest White man she can find and all her friends and relatives will be jealous of her tall white skinned children. And if their hair is wavy instead of straight, she’ll be even happier.

    • Replies: @Truth
    She's about your age, and works at McDonalds. He might be white, but I don't think he will be that tall... or that she'll be having any children.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    I don't get your point about the hair, Alden. Lots of Chinese women's hair is wavy, but they pay money to get it straightened. If you're gonna be Chinese, LOOK Chinese, dammit!
  211. @Jack D
    There's nothing wrong with driving an older car. I was just making the point that Steve was not living a lifestyle of conspicuous consumption with all of the millions that Ron is paying him (not).

    You really can't win against time - the price of no road salt is that the relentless California sunshine will burn up your upholstery, dry out the rubber and plastics, etc. Nothing lasts forever, especially now that we are reaching the era where even 20 year old cars have extensive (and expensive) electronics.

    My 1998 Infiniti I30 drives nicely still, but who knows what would fail in a crash? Do the airbags still work?

    I was vaguely hoping to finally trade it in this year, but that probably won’t happen.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    They probably do but airbag tech has improved in the last 22 years. You probably don't have side curtain bags. A new car would have various collision avoidance tech such as automatic braking. As you get older your reaction time slows down so this technology becomes more important.
    , @Anon87
    Now is the time Steve. I'm seeing commercials for crazy new car offers, but certainly look at Japanese as you're probably planning on having it for a long time.

    And as someone else mentioned, the latest safety features and intelligent driving automation are a big help as you age. I turned most off for now since I can't stand them, but I have to imagine most would certainly aid my parents. Nighttime driving especially.
  212. @Jack D
    First of all, my deepest condolences to you and your wife for your loss. Life behind the Iron Curtain was no piece of cake. Think of the struggles that Americans are suddenly experiencing with getting food, toilet paper, etc. and multiply those by 10 and have them last for 50 years and you'll have some idea of what they had to endure on a daily basis. Simple things that we take for granted like hot water coming from your faucet might disappear for months on end. Things that people in America would donate to the thrift store or leave at the curb having the status of rare luxuries requiring special connections to obtain. Not to mention the constant, gnawing fear - who is an informer? Will I be arrested for some imaginary ideological crime? My children disqualified from higher education and made into 2nd class citizens because of some offhand remark I make?

    I don't blame you for lashing out in your grief, but Steve is not the one who banned international travel. As he has pointed out, even on domestic routes where travel is still entirely legal, passengers have virtually disappeared of their own accord, no government action needed. Your anger is misplaced.

    2nd, as for Steve's financial arrangements with Ron, they are really none of your business. Donate or don't as you wish but I don't have the feeling that Steve is living in luxury. Last I heard he was (or up until recently had been) driving a very old car. He doesn't regale us with tales of his ski vacations in Switzerland. I just don't have the feeling he is rolling in dough. I have no idea how much Ron is paying him, but I don't have the feeling that it would be enough without donations too so that's probably why he asks. He has had the good taste not to ask in the middle of this crisis when there are people that are hurting even more.

    I think all of us are trying to weigh the balance of the value of lives lost in the short term vs the consequences of a lockdown. Clearly, some people would like to set the balance in a different way and the dynamics of modern life means that there has been some overreaction, but it's a good thing that our society puts a high value on human life. Circling back to your recently departed mother in law, a good way to live your life is to think " What would Ceaușescu do?" and then do the exact opposite in each case. If he were here today instead of in hell where he richly deserves to be, Ceaușescu would have the planes flying.

    … but it’s a good thing that our society puts a high value on human life.

    Jack, our society might put a high value on human life, but not the people causing this total shutdown. The Lyin’ Press (I don’t include iSteve in this, of course), is, in McDonald’s marketing terms, LOVIN’ IT! They have so many viewers for so much time, and causing panic 24/7 is how this was done. They will keep it up until people get sick and tired of it. That might be a while, as much as people are glued to their phones and the idiot plate.

    Governments have used what should have been a minor “crisis” as a way to gain even more power. Just using the terms “lockdown” and “shelter-in-place” gets them wet down below. Next, they will get to dole out $2 – $10,000,000,000,000 to whomever sucks them off harder with lots of little strings attached. It’s a blast, man! That is, if you are a high-level US Feral government Ceausescu-wanna be, or even a Governor of Wyoming, or Mayor of Camden, New Jersey.

    Speaking of Ceausescu, he had no regard for human life or the quality of human lives in Romania, but his type is not at all far away from the American officials wanting to be able to shut down this or that part of the private economy at will. Our officials just wish we weren’t still armed is all. Ceausescu would have the planes flying, but only for the high-up Commies anyway. That’s the way it may go here …

  213. @Lot
    Steve has been drifting away from Team Shutdown the last two weeks. He’s questioned particular aspects of the shutdown and wants to start reopening things based on hard data.

    My view was at the time, with the info we had in early March, shutdowns were the right move.

    Now thanks to a lot more info, I switched over to Team Reopen. Steve basically has too, and much of the right is moving there as well.

    CV has been a strange virus that seems to have caused a lot of damage in a few towns in Italy and Spain, plus the New York area, and can kill off a big part of nursing homes in a matter of weeks. Everywhere else, it’s a bad seasonal flu. Getting things right with conflicting information like that isn’t easy.

    I noticed, Lot, that you left off TWMWMNBN. (“WM” if for (((Web Master))), of course.)

    Ron Unz been a silly stubborn math-modeling-maniac about this Kung Flu. OTOH, he has let both sides on this “Corona Soft Coup d’Etat”* publish articles. That is very admirable.

    He is wrong.
    There will be no apologies.
    That is all.

    .

    PS: And to Buzz, I don’t agree about Steve Sailer (to me, like Mr. Unz even, he’s been just searching for truth – yes, in all the wrong places), but I am sorry for your loss and the anguish from not being able to get to Romania.
    .

    * Term coined by commenter/blogger Mr. Hail.

  214. @Jack D
    Surely many Filipinos have bad memories? Even native Okinawans (nominally Japanese) have bad feelings about what was done to them in the war, where the Japanese military in effect forced the local population to commit suicide.

    Sure when it comes to political leaders, a lot of the ill feeling toward the Japan in China and SK is used for domestic political advantage and or bargaining leverage. The Chinese gov't would MUCH rather talk about Japanese atrocities than about much more recent Communist atrocities, for obvious reasons.

    There may be other (poorer) countries where the political and economic dynamics are different and the local leaders feel that have more to gain by making nice to the Japanese but the Japanese left a trail of atrocities pretty much everywhere they went .

    The US did exactly the same in the Cold War with the Japanese. Once the Korean War started and we needed Japan as a basing point and source of war materiel, the Japanese were our great friends and have remained so ever since. That little business at Pearl Harbor? Let bygones by bygones.

    The US did exactly the same in the Cold War with the Japanese. Once the Korean War started and we needed Japan as a basing point and source of war materiel, the Japanese were our great friends and have remained so ever since. That little business at Pearl Harbor? Let bygones by bygones.

    The English and the French fought each other for close to a thousand years, with numberless atrocities on both sides in that interval. After Napoleon’s defeat at Waterloo, that hostility began to ebb. If England and France could make peace, and become allies, occasional friends even, it’s not such a stretch for the US and Japan, which had been hostile for a period of single-digit years.

  215. @Buzz Mohawk
    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. No, she did not die of COVID-19. She was an angel in my wife's life, but we cannot attend the funeral, because of the hysteria that people like Steve are promoting.

    Steve, after this momentary return to your usual subjects, you will quickly return to your hysterical, nerdy, shrieking, FEMALE stoking of Crona-chan panic.

    We thought you were better.

    You can't distract those of us who "notice" things. You called this terribly wrong, and it will cost all of us, even you. Hard as you are obviously trying now, you cannot now deflect to your usual suspects, true as they may have been before you showed how wrong and dangerous and costly and deadly you can be.

    Ron revealed recently that he pays you a handsome salary for your writing here.

    You never needed our contributions, but you allowed us to send them, three times a year, mine amounting now to thousands of dollars. I notice that now, during YOUR panic, you are not asking for donations -- BECAUSE YOU REALLY DON'T NEED THEM.

    You are dead wrong this time, and you have been now for weeks. It is getting tiresome.

    Let's just say that again: Steve, this is getting tiresome.

    My wife's mother just died, on Easter Sunday, in Europe. Her mother was an angel, the most important person in my wife's life, and the perfect mother-in-law. Through communism, bread lines, cutoffs of electricity and heat, she shepherded my wife into one of the greatest universities in the world, to a degree in mathematics THAT WOULD PUT YOU TO SHAME.

    We cannot fly and attend her funeral, because of the hysteria YOU, STEVE and others have stoked and falsely promoted. My wife is crying, mourning her angel mother, and we can't go there. Thanks to people like you.

    This is insane. Steve, you might remember, as I do, a kid like you in SoCal in 1968, that "Hong Kong" flu. I had it. We all survived and our nation and the world did not stop.

    I tell you this is no worse than that or close to it or to other things like it. The only difference is the INTARDNET and people like you who influence.

    You write about the MSM. Well, buddy, YOU are now the MSM, and don't you know it? Take some responsibility!

    You have a responsibility for what you write, because you know and I know that decision-makers read it. You bear some responsibility for the crash and destruction and the personal debt and for my wife not being able to attend her beloved mother's funeral.

    You are part of this. You cannot sit there in your closet and pretend any longer that you are somehow apart from things. You are not. Simple logic, combined with Ron's own numbers just reported in his article here, tell us all that LOTS of people read what you write here.

    You bear a responsibility, and you have gotten this one very badly wrong.

    Condolences on your loss. I’ll assume this cri de coeur is driven by grief and stress, but i don’t think throwing things at Steve is really warranted.

    Yes, he’s been relatively pro shutdown and seemingly little disturbed by the police state stuff, but all in a fairly mild and inquiring way.

    Further, international travel restrictions, whether outright bans or quarantine on arrival, would be part of the package even with a considerably milder response to Corona-chan than what we’ve had so this particular funeral case wouldn’t have likely worked anyway.

    Anyhow, i hope you and yours look forward to days of less pain.

  216. @syonredux

    Actually, the “Captain America (CA) Commie Smasher” phase of the CA identity existed only during a brief, 10-month span in 1953-54 which coincided with two congressional investigations: one into comic books and their impact on youth and the second on Communist infiltration by Senator McCarthy’s committee.
     
    Yeah, I knew that. The Timely Big 3 revival of the '50s (Captain America, Human Torch, Sub-Mariner) was notoriously unsuccessful.

    What later became Marvel Comics deployed the anti-Communist CA persona only until the threat from Capitol Hill abated. Then, in September of 1954, Captain America went back on the shelf until he was reinstated in 1964 with something much closer to his 1940s persona.
     
    Shelving CA had everything to do with low sales. As noted above, the attempt to revive the big 3 was a failure. Interestingly enough, the Sub-Mariner lasted longer than either CA or the Human Torch. Some have speculated that that was due to the possibility of a TV deal for the character.

    https://www.cbr.com/namor-sub-mariner-tv-show/

    The low sales were completely predictable given the superhero bust. If sales prospects had been the primary consideration, they would never have re-launched in 1953. But, there were other considerations…

  217. @Jack D
    Surely many Filipinos have bad memories? Even native Okinawans (nominally Japanese) have bad feelings about what was done to them in the war, where the Japanese military in effect forced the local population to commit suicide.

    Sure when it comes to political leaders, a lot of the ill feeling toward the Japan in China and SK is used for domestic political advantage and or bargaining leverage. The Chinese gov't would MUCH rather talk about Japanese atrocities than about much more recent Communist atrocities, for obvious reasons.

    There may be other (poorer) countries where the political and economic dynamics are different and the local leaders feel that have more to gain by making nice to the Japanese but the Japanese left a trail of atrocities pretty much everywhere they went .

    The US did exactly the same in the Cold War with the Japanese. Once the Korean War started and we needed Japan as a basing point and source of war materiel, the Japanese were our great friends and have remained so ever since. That little business at Pearl Harbor? Let bygones by bygones.

    Well, the Okinawans have bad memories about being incorporated into the Japanese state in the first place. If it comes to that, the Ainu have bad memories too. Their views are closer to those of Koreans, but they can’t express them the way Koreans can.

    As far as the Philippines go, sure there are some residual antipathy, but most of those memories are dying out. 1945 was 75 years ago after all. Most living Filipinos are too young to have much recollection of WW II. Unlike the Japanese occupation of Korea that lasted 40 years or so, the Japanese occupation of the Philippines was only 3 1/2 years. So despite the atrocities and destruction of much of Manila, the Japanese were a blip, and since the war, they have been generous with aid via the Asian Development Bank, have made repeated statements of regret, and are a model of how a well ordered society functions. Not every Filipino migrant worker has a great experience in Japan, but surveys of Filipino opinion show general positive feelings for Japan. The same is true throughout Southeast Asia.

    The Southeast Asians are rather forgiving–to outsiders if not to one another. Vietnamese have generally positive feelings about the US, and we left a lot more destruction and dislocation than the Japanese did (though we didn’t cause a famine by requisitioning the rice harvest.)

    Outside of China and Korea, the WW II historical memory of East Asia and associated feelings of hostility to Japan have not endured.

    • Agree: Lot
  218. @Steve Sailer
    My 1998 Infiniti I30 drives nicely still, but who knows what would fail in a crash? Do the airbags still work?

    I was vaguely hoping to finally trade it in this year, but that probably won't happen.

    They probably do but airbag tech has improved in the last 22 years. You probably don’t have side curtain bags. A new car would have various collision avoidance tech such as automatic braking. As you get older your reaction time slows down so this technology becomes more important.

  219. @Anon
    When the outbreak started in China, Asians whined about people avoiding Chinatown and Asian restaurants. But the majority of their customers were Asian to begin with, so it was Asians avoiding other Asians. Where I live, you can't walk two miles without encountering a Chinese restaurant serving regional Chinese cuisine, all opened in the last 5 years or so, run by people straight out of China who could barely speak English. There's even a place that serves "Wuhan noodles". I don't think these places should receive any of our $350B small biz stimulus. They should all be sent packing. And Trump should extend the ban on travelers from China -- permanently.

    Even non-Chinese Asians (like me) hate people from China. They make all Asians look bad, even before the virus, now it's much worse.

    A great many of the employees at these Chinese restaurants are illegal aliens, #694. I’ve gotten this information from both American and Chinese sources. It’s a much more organized thing than the Hispanic illegal immigration. See The China to King Buffet Pipline.

  220. @Jack D
    Stuff happens and it happens more the older your car is, but if you keep up replacing certain maintenance items (batteries, fan belts, tires, etc.) then your older car is much less likely to crap out on you. Airlines fly (or until recently, flew) jets that are 20 or 30 years old with terrific safety. They never crap out 30,000 feet in the air despite being the age that most cars are in the junkyard and being 100x more complex than a car. The secret is rigorous adherence to a maintenance schedule. If you wait until stuff breaks then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Car batteries are generally not worth a damn after 4 years. They will be good enough to start your car on a perfect spring day but if it's hotter or colder, if the car needs to crank a little more than usual, etc. it will crap out on you. And Murphy's Law says it will be at the most inconvenient time and place possible. Most batteries carry at least a pro-rated warranty and even if they don't, they are usually under $100, so have your 4 year old battery load tested where you bought it even if it seems OK and chances are it's going to fail the load test and they will give you at least some credit on a new one and it will be the best $50 you ever spent on the reliability your car ( this will true whether the car is 4 years old or 8 or 16). If you want to improve your odds of getting a new one, bring it to them in another car and maybe run down a little bit. Even an old crappy battery will hold a charge for a few minutes and if you have freshly charged your battery up on the drive to the parts store it's going to test better than it really is.

    Fan belts? Dude…

    I don’t think the jets are more complex than modern cars, either. They have more and much bigger “systems”, so to speak. However, the manufacturers don’t do the fancy stuff that makes car repair so complex and difficult now. Airplane parts are much more easily worked on and/or swapped out. Certain critical little parts must not be left out though, that in a car might cause a problem later, but in a jet may cause a disaster.

    I agree about the batteries and getting test results at the parts store, Jack. I used to have batteries last 10 years, even with a decent amount of abuse. You are lucky to get 4 out of one now. $100 doesn’t get you a good one either. They’ve gone up from $80 for a good one to more like $125 over the last 20 years.

    A mechanic friends says “take care of the little stuff, and the big stuff will take care of itself.” That goes through 150,000 to 200,000 miles. Automatic transmissions have a lifetime, no matter how well you treat em.

    Do you have a stick shift in the Honda, Steve?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I had a stick shift in my 1988 Accord. It was a quick car despite having only 98 horsepower.

    But the bigger, heavier cars of the 1990s were much more comfortable to drive than the MPG Uber Alles cars of the 1980s.

    , @Jack D

    Fan belts? Dude…
     
    OK, "accessory drive belts" or "serpentine belts". They're still fan belts to me even though they don't drive the fan anymore. Go into any parts store and ask for a fan belt and they'll know what you mean.

    You are lucky to get 4 out of one now. $100 doesn’t get you a good one either. They’ve gone up from $80 for a good one to more like $125 over the last 20 years.
     
    I don't know that the batteries have actually gotten worse (nor have they really gotten much better - the basic technology is from Edison's time and they are nasty devices full of lead and sulfuric acid) but cars today have a bigger parasitic load (power draw when the car is off) and I think that wears out the battery faster. To give you an idea of how out of date they are, they now sell lithium battery based jump start devices that start your car just fine and rather than being 50 lbs. of lead and corrosive acid, they are the size of a paperback book.

    I've noticed a lot of "hidden" inflation even though we're not supposed to have inflation. The other day I went to reorder an air filter that I had bought on Amazon 3 years ago (another item that you should replace according to schedule - also don't forget your cabin air filter - most cars have them now and you'll be amazed how cruddy they get) and it was perhaps 50% more, and that happens a lot. Yes, the days of the $50 car battery are gone.

    There are only two actual manufacturers of car batteries in the US - Johnson and Exide, so not a lot of competition. Every other brand of battery is just a rebrand of either a Johnson or an Exide (and car batteries are too heavy to import except from Mexico where they have opened factories). So don't go by brand name, go by spec (# of "cold cranking amps") and warranty and price. So you should get the most expensive battery from the cheapest vendor - the top of the line (or maybe 1 notch down - the spiral wound Optimas and the sealed AGM batteries are overkill) you can get at Costco or Wal-Mart or maybe from your local parts store with a coupon code. For any given spec, it will be the identical battery that your car dealer will sell you at twice the price but with a different label glued on. Don't get the economy special if you intend to keep the car for any length of time.
  221. @Achmed E. Newman
    Fan belts? Dude...

    I don't think the jets are more complex than modern cars, either. They have more and much bigger "systems", so to speak. However, the manufacturers don't do the fancy stuff that makes car repair so complex and difficult now. Airplane parts are much more easily worked on and/or swapped out. Certain critical little parts must not be left out though, that in a car might cause a problem later, but in a jet may cause a disaster.

    I agree about the batteries and getting test results at the parts store, Jack. I used to have batteries last 10 years, even with a decent amount of abuse. You are lucky to get 4 out of one now. $100 doesn't get you a good one either. They've gone up from $80 for a good one to more like $125 over the last 20 years.

    A mechanic friends says "take care of the little stuff, and the big stuff will take care of itself." That goes through 150,000 to 200,000 miles. Automatic transmissions have a lifetime, no matter how well you treat em.

    Do you have a stick shift in the Honda, Steve?

    I had a stick shift in my 1988 Accord. It was a quick car despite having only 98 horsepower.

    But the bigger, heavier cars of the 1990s were much more comfortable to drive than the MPG Uber Alles cars of the 1980s.

  222. @Achmed E. Newman
    Fan belts? Dude...

    I don't think the jets are more complex than modern cars, either. They have more and much bigger "systems", so to speak. However, the manufacturers don't do the fancy stuff that makes car repair so complex and difficult now. Airplane parts are much more easily worked on and/or swapped out. Certain critical little parts must not be left out though, that in a car might cause a problem later, but in a jet may cause a disaster.

    I agree about the batteries and getting test results at the parts store, Jack. I used to have batteries last 10 years, even with a decent amount of abuse. You are lucky to get 4 out of one now. $100 doesn't get you a good one either. They've gone up from $80 for a good one to more like $125 over the last 20 years.

    A mechanic friends says "take care of the little stuff, and the big stuff will take care of itself." That goes through 150,000 to 200,000 miles. Automatic transmissions have a lifetime, no matter how well you treat em.

    Do you have a stick shift in the Honda, Steve?

    Fan belts? Dude…

    OK, “accessory drive belts” or “serpentine belts”. They’re still fan belts to me even though they don’t drive the fan anymore. Go into any parts store and ask for a fan belt and they’ll know what you mean.

    You are lucky to get 4 out of one now. $100 doesn’t get you a good one either. They’ve gone up from $80 for a good one to more like $125 over the last 20 years.

    I don’t know that the batteries have actually gotten worse (nor have they really gotten much better – the basic technology is from Edison’s time and they are nasty devices full of lead and sulfuric acid) but cars today have a bigger parasitic load (power draw when the car is off) and I think that wears out the battery faster. To give you an idea of how out of date they are, they now sell lithium battery based jump start devices that start your car just fine and rather than being 50 lbs. of lead and corrosive acid, they are the size of a paperback book.

    I’ve noticed a lot of “hidden” inflation even though we’re not supposed to have inflation. The other day I went to reorder an air filter that I had bought on Amazon 3 years ago (another item that you should replace according to schedule – also don’t forget your cabin air filter – most cars have them now and you’ll be amazed how cruddy they get) and it was perhaps 50% more, and that happens a lot. Yes, the days of the $50 car battery are gone.

    There are only two actual manufacturers of car batteries in the US – Johnson and Exide, so not a lot of competition. Every other brand of battery is just a rebrand of either a Johnson or an Exide (and car batteries are too heavy to import except from Mexico where they have opened factories). So don’t go by brand name, go by spec (# of “cold cranking amps”) and warranty and price. So you should get the most expensive battery from the cheapest vendor – the top of the line (or maybe 1 notch down – the spiral wound Optimas and the sealed AGM batteries are overkill) you can get at Costco or Wal-Mart or maybe from your local parts store with a coupon code. For any given spec, it will be the identical battery that your car dealer will sell you at twice the price but with a different label glued on. Don’t get the economy special if you intend to keep the car for any length of time.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @anonymous
    Agree about the batteries, 5 years was the minimum expected with the old style batteries that could be topped off when running dry, although I have gotten more than double that in a really high quality unit (original equipment Volkswagen Beetle).
    Certainly the demands on the battery have increased, perhaps the "no-maintenance" nature of these new batteries could also be a contributing factor?
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Just giving you a hard time - yes "serpentine" or "main" belt, and if you say fan belt so some young Millennial, you're gonna have her looking at a computer screen for a long time!

    Batteries used to last me a lot longer, Jack. I understand what the CCA rating is, and, of course, I try to get a 650A or so. By good ones, I mean ones that are the "gold" vs. "silver" of the same brand, meaning, if nothing else, the warranty is pro-rated for 4 years. We are on the same page there. Now, as to returning them, the tests are often not useful. My mechanic friend, who is as honest as any you could get, told me this: If you KNOW the battery is bad, and you took it in and they give you any shit, just drain out one cell at home and come back. It hasn't come to that yet for me, but it may.

    I have a very specific post on inflation wrt auto batteries and parts, right here (just looked at it, and the new price - exact same brand/rating - was lots higher than that $125 I wrote before). Yes, there is more inflation than our BS BLS numbers would have people believe. (Roofing shingles - $6.50 a bundle for non-architectural in the mid 1990s - over 3 x that much 5 years ago!)

    Anyway, nice corresponding with you here. I hope Steve is doing OK and just spending lots of time on a Takimag column or what have you. Steve??
  223. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Fan belts? Dude…
     
    OK, "accessory drive belts" or "serpentine belts". They're still fan belts to me even though they don't drive the fan anymore. Go into any parts store and ask for a fan belt and they'll know what you mean.

    You are lucky to get 4 out of one now. $100 doesn’t get you a good one either. They’ve gone up from $80 for a good one to more like $125 over the last 20 years.
     
    I don't know that the batteries have actually gotten worse (nor have they really gotten much better - the basic technology is from Edison's time and they are nasty devices full of lead and sulfuric acid) but cars today have a bigger parasitic load (power draw when the car is off) and I think that wears out the battery faster. To give you an idea of how out of date they are, they now sell lithium battery based jump start devices that start your car just fine and rather than being 50 lbs. of lead and corrosive acid, they are the size of a paperback book.

    I've noticed a lot of "hidden" inflation even though we're not supposed to have inflation. The other day I went to reorder an air filter that I had bought on Amazon 3 years ago (another item that you should replace according to schedule - also don't forget your cabin air filter - most cars have them now and you'll be amazed how cruddy they get) and it was perhaps 50% more, and that happens a lot. Yes, the days of the $50 car battery are gone.

    There are only two actual manufacturers of car batteries in the US - Johnson and Exide, so not a lot of competition. Every other brand of battery is just a rebrand of either a Johnson or an Exide (and car batteries are too heavy to import except from Mexico where they have opened factories). So don't go by brand name, go by spec (# of "cold cranking amps") and warranty and price. So you should get the most expensive battery from the cheapest vendor - the top of the line (or maybe 1 notch down - the spiral wound Optimas and the sealed AGM batteries are overkill) you can get at Costco or Wal-Mart or maybe from your local parts store with a coupon code. For any given spec, it will be the identical battery that your car dealer will sell you at twice the price but with a different label glued on. Don't get the economy special if you intend to keep the car for any length of time.

    Agree about the batteries, 5 years was the minimum expected with the old style batteries that could be topped off when running dry, although I have gotten more than double that in a really high quality unit (original equipment Volkswagen Beetle).
    Certainly the demands on the battery have increased, perhaps the “no-maintenance” nature of these new batteries could also be a contributing factor?

  224. @HammerJack
    Coronavirus: Africans in China subjected to forced evictions, arbitrary quarantines and harassment

    https://www.france24.com/en/20200411-if-you-re-black-you-can-t-go-out-africans-in-china-face-racism-in-covid-19-crackdown

    Ain’t that what the Chinese get in China?

  225. @Jack D
    Stuff happens and it happens more the older your car is, but if you keep up replacing certain maintenance items (batteries, fan belts, tires, etc.) then your older car is much less likely to crap out on you. Airlines fly (or until recently, flew) jets that are 20 or 30 years old with terrific safety. They never crap out 30,000 feet in the air despite being the age that most cars are in the junkyard and being 100x more complex than a car. The secret is rigorous adherence to a maintenance schedule. If you wait until stuff breaks then it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

    Car batteries are generally not worth a damn after 4 years. They will be good enough to start your car on a perfect spring day but if it's hotter or colder, if the car needs to crank a little more than usual, etc. it will crap out on you. And Murphy's Law says it will be at the most inconvenient time and place possible. Most batteries carry at least a pro-rated warranty and even if they don't, they are usually under $100, so have your 4 year old battery load tested where you bought it even if it seems OK and chances are it's going to fail the load test and they will give you at least some credit on a new one and it will be the best $50 you ever spent on the reliability your car ( this will true whether the car is 4 years old or 8 or 16). If you want to improve your odds of getting a new one, bring it to them in another car and maybe run down a little bit. Even an old crappy battery will hold a charge for a few minutes and if you have freshly charged your battery up on the drive to the parts store it's going to test better than it really is.

    Car batteries are generally not worth a damn after 4 years

    , a car battery can last a lifetime.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    A car battery can last a lifetime.
     
    Well sure, if you pour the acid out, and keep the lead plates, melting them down one by one for use as bullets after the SHTF, one just might.
  226. @Alden
    She’ll probably marry the tallest lightest White man she can find and all her friends and relatives will be jealous of her tall white skinned children. And if their hair is wavy instead of straight, she’ll be even happier.

    She’s about your age, and works at McDonalds. He might be white, but I don’t think he will be that tall… or that she’ll be having any children.

  227. @Oscar Peterson

    For Koreans, it is a “little brother” syndrome where they are envious and want to be like the Japanese.

     

    Hatred of one people for another doesn't come from something as banal as being "little brother."

    The Japanese invaded and colonized Korea twice, once very destructively at the end of the 16th century and then again in the 20th century. It's true that the legacy of the modern conquest is mixed. The Japanese began the industrialization and modernization of Korea. But that doesn't compensate for (1) being subjugated and used by Japan, (2) the second-class status of the large Korean population in Japan, and (3) the humiliation connected to the "comfort women" issue.

    It ain't just "little brother" syndrome, and it's been a constant stumbling block for the US attempt to weld Japan and South Korea into an anti-China alliance.

    It's true that the PRC's use and promotion of anti-Japanese sentiment is often cynical. When the Japanese PM apologized to Chou en Lai in 1972 for Japanese behavior in China during WW II, Chou supposedly replied something to the effect of "It's OK, your invasion help the CCP to come to power." The environment has certainly changed since then.

    But let's be realistic. If there weren't a significant existing basis of anti-Japanese sentiment in China, the government wouldn't be able to amp it up at need. The more powerful China becomes, the more Chinese are inclined to dwell on those who have wronged them (including the West but especially Japan) and see vengeance as a realistic option.

    Contrast with Vietnam.

    The viets hate the Chinese more than Americans, even though objectively, the Americans did far worse. The Americans killed millions, they waged chemical warfare, they raped women, they sanctioned the economy for decades, etc.

    Why is this?

    Because the leadership of the country wants it so. And as well, Vietnam won so they have had their vengeance.

    As for korea, they weren’t *only* victims of Japan. They were also collaborators with japan. And their industries have grown to rival Japan.

    Another question in regards to korea: who behaved worse, the United States or Japan? 20% of the Korean peninsula was killed in the Korean war. The United States was the power behind the military dictatorship that ruled Korea brutally. And Korean women are comfort women to US troops.

    What is so different is the narciccism of small differences. The United States is other to korea, while Japan is brother.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    "Another question in regards to korea: who behaved worse, the United States or Japan? 20% of the Korean peninsula was killed in the Korean war. The United States was the power behind the military dictatorship that ruled Korea brutally. And Korean women are comfort women to US troops. "

    When given the choice in the midst of war, 100K North Korean civilians decided that your hated Yankees were a better choice compared the Communists.

    https://vimeo.com/15690428
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq6hlRopfV4
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQD073Qg1s
    , @Oscar Peterson
    Vietnam-China:

    Yes, China is the immediate and next-door threat for Vietnam. Of course, their history is long and fraught, while the US presence was a couple of decades all told. Some say that the historical antagonism between the two has been exaggerated and that the SRV government has promoted the hostility for its own purposes. Maybe--to a certain extent. But again, if there were not some underlying animosity, there wouldn't be anything for the Vietnamese government to whip up, at need, into active hatred.

    China-Korea:

    Agree on the collaboration. The collaborators were the ones we chose to head the new-born ROK government in the late 1940s, while those who actively opposed the Japanese occupation in Korean units of the PLA were the founders of the DPRK.

    The real question is not who, objectively, treated Koreans worse, Japan or the US. The real question is how Koreans--South Koreans--answer that question. And even with the revelations of recent years, the South Koreans are quite clear about whom they blame primarily.

    I don't detect much in the way of fraternal feelings--"little brother" or any other kind--between Koreans and Japanese--certainly not from the Korean side. If there is an elder brother-younger brother relationship, it's between China and Korea. They've had their run-ins over the centuries, but Koreans have a fundamentally positive view of China, Chinese culture and the Chinese.

    This is why the US has failed in trying to cement a functional Japan-ROK, anti-PRC alliance for the 21st century. It simply goes too strongly against the grain of South Korean sentiment.

    It's probably also why the US security establishment opposes any move away from a tense relationship with North Korea. If that issue were ever resolved, the long-term trend would be toward a neutral Korea that would be economically and culturally very close to China

  228. @Steve Sailer
    My 1998 Infiniti I30 drives nicely still, but who knows what would fail in a crash? Do the airbags still work?

    I was vaguely hoping to finally trade it in this year, but that probably won't happen.

    Now is the time Steve. I’m seeing commercials for crazy new car offers, but certainly look at Japanese as you’re probably planning on having it for a long time.

    And as someone else mentioned, the latest safety features and intelligent driving automation are a big help as you age. I turned most off for now since I can’t stand them, but I have to imagine most would certainly aid my parents. Nighttime driving especially.

    • Replies: @Jack D

    certainly look at Japanese as you’re probably planning on having it for a long time.
     
    Not all Japanese brands are equal, especially since Ghosn cost cut Nissan (and therefore Infiniti) to death. Toyota/Lexus is #1 in durability followed by Honda/Acura and then all of the others are significantly behind. Subaru and Mazda have their fans for their driving experience but this is not the same thing as durability. Nissan and Mitsubishi are good if you have a bad credit rating and no one else will give you a loan.

    Also don't forget the S. Korean brands. My Genesis is luxurious and has been trouble free and carries a really long warranty (as do all Korean cars) and because the brand is not well established (and the dealer experience is not at Lexus levels) they sell for cheap compared to German and Japanese luxury brands, especially in the (slightly) used market. Their reliability is up with the Japanese nowadays.
  229. @Anon

    current Asian Americans
     
    Yeah, 'current' asian American is correct, because you won't be in America much longer. :)

    Well, unless the forthcoming Latino majority in all our most populous States remove the Asians from California, Texas, and Florida, the Asians won’t be going anywhere. Keep dreaming. They’d be just as likely to remove US.

    Anyway, there are going to be several million white-Asian people in California, like my children, soon enough, and probably several million Hispanic/Asians as well.

  230. @Anon87
    Now is the time Steve. I'm seeing commercials for crazy new car offers, but certainly look at Japanese as you're probably planning on having it for a long time.

    And as someone else mentioned, the latest safety features and intelligent driving automation are a big help as you age. I turned most off for now since I can't stand them, but I have to imagine most would certainly aid my parents. Nighttime driving especially.

    certainly look at Japanese as you’re probably planning on having it for a long time.

    Not all Japanese brands are equal, especially since Ghosn cost cut Nissan (and therefore Infiniti) to death. Toyota/Lexus is #1 in durability followed by Honda/Acura and then all of the others are significantly behind. Subaru and Mazda have their fans for their driving experience but this is not the same thing as durability. Nissan and Mitsubishi are good if you have a bad credit rating and no one else will give you a loan.

    Also don’t forget the S. Korean brands. My Genesis is luxurious and has been trouble free and carries a really long warranty (as do all Korean cars) and because the brand is not well established (and the dealer experience is not at Lexus levels) they sell for cheap compared to German and Japanese luxury brands, especially in the (slightly) used market. Their reliability is up with the Japanese nowadays.

    • Agree: HammerJack
    • Replies: @Anon87
    Appropriate clarifications. I typically default to Toyota or Honda, but I'd still go second rate Japanese over a US or Euro car.

    The Genesis is certainly intriguing. I'd love if Steve could get a comfy Lexus or Genesis to cruise around in for the next 20 years of grocery store runs and golf outings.
  231. @Jack D

    Fan belts? Dude…
     
    OK, "accessory drive belts" or "serpentine belts". They're still fan belts to me even though they don't drive the fan anymore. Go into any parts store and ask for a fan belt and they'll know what you mean.

    You are lucky to get 4 out of one now. $100 doesn’t get you a good one either. They’ve gone up from $80 for a good one to more like $125 over the last 20 years.
     
    I don't know that the batteries have actually gotten worse (nor have they really gotten much better - the basic technology is from Edison's time and they are nasty devices full of lead and sulfuric acid) but cars today have a bigger parasitic load (power draw when the car is off) and I think that wears out the battery faster. To give you an idea of how out of date they are, they now sell lithium battery based jump start devices that start your car just fine and rather than being 50 lbs. of lead and corrosive acid, they are the size of a paperback book.

    I've noticed a lot of "hidden" inflation even though we're not supposed to have inflation. The other day I went to reorder an air filter that I had bought on Amazon 3 years ago (another item that you should replace according to schedule - also don't forget your cabin air filter - most cars have them now and you'll be amazed how cruddy they get) and it was perhaps 50% more, and that happens a lot. Yes, the days of the $50 car battery are gone.

    There are only two actual manufacturers of car batteries in the US - Johnson and Exide, so not a lot of competition. Every other brand of battery is just a rebrand of either a Johnson or an Exide (and car batteries are too heavy to import except from Mexico where they have opened factories). So don't go by brand name, go by spec (# of "cold cranking amps") and warranty and price. So you should get the most expensive battery from the cheapest vendor - the top of the line (or maybe 1 notch down - the spiral wound Optimas and the sealed AGM batteries are overkill) you can get at Costco or Wal-Mart or maybe from your local parts store with a coupon code. For any given spec, it will be the identical battery that your car dealer will sell you at twice the price but with a different label glued on. Don't get the economy special if you intend to keep the car for any length of time.

    Just giving you a hard time – yes “serpentine” or “main” belt, and if you say fan belt so some young Millennial, you’re gonna have her looking at a computer screen for a long time!

    Batteries used to last me a lot longer, Jack. I understand what the CCA rating is, and, of course, I try to get a 650A or so. By good ones, I mean ones that are the “gold” vs. “silver” of the same brand, meaning, if nothing else, the warranty is pro-rated for 4 years. We are on the same page there. Now, as to returning them, the tests are often not useful. My mechanic friend, who is as honest as any you could get, told me this: If you KNOW the battery is bad, and you took it in and they give you any shit, just drain out one cell at home and come back. It hasn’t come to that yet for me, but it may.

    I have a very specific post on inflation wrt auto batteries and parts, right here (just looked at it, and the new price – exact same brand/rating – was lots higher than that $125 I wrote before). Yes, there is more inflation than our BS BLS numbers would have people believe. (Roofing shingles – $6.50 a bundle for non-architectural in the mid 1990s – over 3 x that much 5 years ago!)

    Anyway, nice corresponding with you here. I hope Steve is doing OK and just spending lots of time on a Takimag column or what have you. Steve??

  232. @Alden
    She’ll probably marry the tallest lightest White man she can find and all her friends and relatives will be jealous of her tall white skinned children. And if their hair is wavy instead of straight, she’ll be even happier.

    I don’t get your point about the hair, Alden. Lots of Chinese women’s hair is wavy, but they pay money to get it straightened. If you’re gonna be Chinese, LOOK Chinese, dammit!

  233. @Truth

    Car batteries are generally not worth a damn after 4 years
     
    , a car battery can last a lifetime.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYXx70MqJ-0

    A car battery can last a lifetime.

    Well sure, if you pour the acid out, and keep the lead plates, melting them down one by one for use as bullets after the SHTF, one just might.

    • Replies: @anon
    Well sure, if you pour the acid out, and keep the lead plates, melting them down one by one for use as bullets

    Arsenic fumes are bad for your lungs. Not to mention the rest of your body.
  234. @Jack D

    certainly look at Japanese as you’re probably planning on having it for a long time.
     
    Not all Japanese brands are equal, especially since Ghosn cost cut Nissan (and therefore Infiniti) to death. Toyota/Lexus is #1 in durability followed by Honda/Acura and then all of the others are significantly behind. Subaru and Mazda have their fans for their driving experience but this is not the same thing as durability. Nissan and Mitsubishi are good if you have a bad credit rating and no one else will give you a loan.

    Also don't forget the S. Korean brands. My Genesis is luxurious and has been trouble free and carries a really long warranty (as do all Korean cars) and because the brand is not well established (and the dealer experience is not at Lexus levels) they sell for cheap compared to German and Japanese luxury brands, especially in the (slightly) used market. Their reliability is up with the Japanese nowadays.

    Appropriate clarifications. I typically default to Toyota or Honda, but I’d still go second rate Japanese over a US or Euro car.

    The Genesis is certainly intriguing. I’d love if Steve could get a comfy Lexus or Genesis to cruise around in for the next 20 years of grocery store runs and golf outings.

  235. @Achmed E. Newman

    A car battery can last a lifetime.
     
    Well sure, if you pour the acid out, and keep the lead plates, melting them down one by one for use as bullets after the SHTF, one just might.

    Well sure, if you pour the acid out, and keep the lead plates, melting them down one by one for use as bullets

    Arsenic fumes are bad for your lungs. Not to mention the rest of your body.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Yes, well, see, that's why you don't hold your face directly over the filler holes when you pour it out. Thank you, Mr. [REDACTED] from High School Chemistry!
  236. @Bucky
    Contrast with Vietnam.

    The viets hate the Chinese more than Americans, even though objectively, the Americans did far worse. The Americans killed millions, they waged chemical warfare, they raped women, they sanctioned the economy for decades, etc.

    Why is this?

    Because the leadership of the country wants it so. And as well, Vietnam won so they have had their vengeance.

    As for korea, they weren't *only* victims of Japan. They were also collaborators with japan. And their industries have grown to rival Japan.

    Another question in regards to korea: who behaved worse, the United States or Japan? 20% of the Korean peninsula was killed in the Korean war. The United States was the power behind the military dictatorship that ruled Korea brutally. And Korean women are comfort women to US troops.

    What is so different is the narciccism of small differences. The United States is other to korea, while Japan is brother.

    “Another question in regards to korea: who behaved worse, the United States or Japan? 20% of the Korean peninsula was killed in the Korean war. The United States was the power behind the military dictatorship that ruled Korea brutally. And Korean women are comfort women to US troops. ”

    When given the choice in the midst of war, 100K North Korean civilians decided that your hated Yankees were a better choice compared the Communists.

  237. @anon
    Well sure, if you pour the acid out, and keep the lead plates, melting them down one by one for use as bullets

    Arsenic fumes are bad for your lungs. Not to mention the rest of your body.

    Yes, well, see, that’s why you don’t hold your face directly over the filler holes when you pour it out. Thank you, Mr. [REDACTED] from High School Chemistry!

    • Replies: @anon
    Yes, well, see, that’s why you don’t hold your face directly over the filler holes when you pour it out. Thank you, Mr. [REDACTED] from High School Chemistry!

    You're welcome. If you ever actually cast any bullets, let us all know how it works out.

  238. @Bucky
    Contrast with Vietnam.

    The viets hate the Chinese more than Americans, even though objectively, the Americans did far worse. The Americans killed millions, they waged chemical warfare, they raped women, they sanctioned the economy for decades, etc.

    Why is this?

    Because the leadership of the country wants it so. And as well, Vietnam won so they have had their vengeance.

    As for korea, they weren't *only* victims of Japan. They were also collaborators with japan. And their industries have grown to rival Japan.

    Another question in regards to korea: who behaved worse, the United States or Japan? 20% of the Korean peninsula was killed in the Korean war. The United States was the power behind the military dictatorship that ruled Korea brutally. And Korean women are comfort women to US troops.

    What is so different is the narciccism of small differences. The United States is other to korea, while Japan is brother.

    Vietnam-China:

    Yes, China is the immediate and next-door threat for Vietnam. Of course, their history is long and fraught, while the US presence was a couple of decades all told. Some say that the historical antagonism between the two has been exaggerated and that the SRV government has promoted the hostility for its own purposes. Maybe–to a certain extent. But again, if there were not some underlying animosity, there wouldn’t be anything for the Vietnamese government to whip up, at need, into active hatred.

    China-Korea:

    Agree on the collaboration. The collaborators were the ones we chose to head the new-born ROK government in the late 1940s, while those who actively opposed the Japanese occupation in Korean units of the PLA were the founders of the DPRK.

    The real question is not who, objectively, treated Koreans worse, Japan or the US. The real question is how Koreans–South Koreans–answer that question. And even with the revelations of recent years, the South Koreans are quite clear about whom they blame primarily.

    I don’t detect much in the way of fraternal feelings–“little brother” or any other kind–between Koreans and Japanese–certainly not from the Korean side. If there is an elder brother-younger brother relationship, it’s between China and Korea. They’ve had their run-ins over the centuries, but Koreans have a fundamentally positive view of China, Chinese culture and the Chinese.

    This is why the US has failed in trying to cement a functional Japan-ROK, anti-PRC alliance for the 21st century. It simply goes too strongly against the grain of South Korean sentiment.

    It’s probably also why the US security establishment opposes any move away from a tense relationship with North Korea. If that issue were ever resolved, the long-term trend would be toward a neutral Korea that would be economically and culturally very close to China

    • Replies: @Bucky
    Hatred tends to come from a two-part formula:

    1. They think they're better than me.

    2. They aren't better than me. They are weak.

    Part 1 by itself can lead to worship. Part 2 by itself is disdain. Combine the two and you get hatred because there is the possibility of advancement.

    This, by the way, is what you see from many Muslim terrorists and Muslim nationalists.

    Anyways, see the disdain that the Chinese have for the Indians. And see the hatred they have for the Japanese. People do punch up like so. This may be fundamentally there, but the framing of things is hugely important and the signals given off by the leadership play a great role in how things are perceived, especially in hierarchical societies of easy Asia.
  239. @Oscar Peterson
    Vietnam-China:

    Yes, China is the immediate and next-door threat for Vietnam. Of course, their history is long and fraught, while the US presence was a couple of decades all told. Some say that the historical antagonism between the two has been exaggerated and that the SRV government has promoted the hostility for its own purposes. Maybe--to a certain extent. But again, if there were not some underlying animosity, there wouldn't be anything for the Vietnamese government to whip up, at need, into active hatred.

    China-Korea:

    Agree on the collaboration. The collaborators were the ones we chose to head the new-born ROK government in the late 1940s, while those who actively opposed the Japanese occupation in Korean units of the PLA were the founders of the DPRK.

    The real question is not who, objectively, treated Koreans worse, Japan or the US. The real question is how Koreans--South Koreans--answer that question. And even with the revelations of recent years, the South Koreans are quite clear about whom they blame primarily.

    I don't detect much in the way of fraternal feelings--"little brother" or any other kind--between Koreans and Japanese--certainly not from the Korean side. If there is an elder brother-younger brother relationship, it's between China and Korea. They've had their run-ins over the centuries, but Koreans have a fundamentally positive view of China, Chinese culture and the Chinese.

    This is why the US has failed in trying to cement a functional Japan-ROK, anti-PRC alliance for the 21st century. It simply goes too strongly against the grain of South Korean sentiment.

    It's probably also why the US security establishment opposes any move away from a tense relationship with North Korea. If that issue were ever resolved, the long-term trend would be toward a neutral Korea that would be economically and culturally very close to China

    Hatred tends to come from a two-part formula:

    1. They think they’re better than me.

    2. They aren’t better than me. They are weak.

    Part 1 by itself can lead to worship. Part 2 by itself is disdain. Combine the two and you get hatred because there is the possibility of advancement.

    This, by the way, is what you see from many Muslim terrorists and Muslim nationalists.

    Anyways, see the disdain that the Chinese have for the Indians. And see the hatred they have for the Japanese. People do punch up like so. This may be fundamentally there, but the framing of things is hugely important and the signals given off by the leadership play a great role in how things are perceived, especially in hierarchical societies of easy Asia.

  240. @Achmed E. Newman
    Yes, well, see, that's why you don't hold your face directly over the filler holes when you pour it out. Thank you, Mr. [REDACTED] from High School Chemistry!

    Yes, well, see, that’s why you don’t hold your face directly over the filler holes when you pour it out. Thank you, Mr. [REDACTED] from High School Chemistry!

    You’re welcome. If you ever actually cast any bullets, let us all know how it works out.

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