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As a commenter pointed out about my review of This Land Is Our Land: An Immigrant’s Manifesto by Suketu Mehta, the scion of an Indian diamond merchant clan, diamond merchants are about the last who ought to lecture white Americans on their failures of inclusion and diversity.

The diamond business is globalist yet intensely nepotistic. I knew an American woman who got a job in the Los Angeles diamond district but then went to work for an insurance company due to discrimination against women and non-Indians.

Indians have recently pushed Orthodox Jewish diamond businessmen largely out of their stronghold in Antwerp, Belgium, in part by being more clannish than the Orthodox Jews.

The secret to the diamond business is arranged marriages and the threat of ostracism, as dawned on me while having the diamond ring appraised to make sure the retailer hadn’t cheated me. The appraiser on Wabash spent about 20 minutes squinting at it through a microscope before telling me about its microscopic flaws.

That’s a big transaction cost. It’s much more efficient to be able to trust somebody you are doing business with when he tells you orally that the diamond is flawless. But how do you trust him? Because if he gets a reputation for cheating his relatives, his children will never find spouses.

From Quartz:

NEW OLD WORLD
How Indian families took over the Antwerp diamond trade from orthodox Jews
By Pallavi Aiyar July 22, 2015

… But today it is the Mehtas and the Shahs rather than the Epsteins and Finkelszteins who rule Hoveniersstraat. Indians have come to control almost three-quarters of Antwerp’s diamond industry, a figure that had been associated with the Jews only a few decades ago.

… Three decades on, the Indian community in Antwerp consists of around 400 families, a majority from the single town of Palanpur in Gujarat.

There are three main ingredients to this Indian success story: cheap labour, large families and a willingness to work harder than the competition. …

“For us, sending rough diamonds to India for processing isn’t outsourcing as much as “homesourcing,” Santosh Kedia, owner of the jewelry company Indigems, quipped over lunch.

… Antwerp’s Indian diamantaires are almost without exception Jains and, given the religious restrictions on their diet, tend to import personal cooks from India who are familiar with their particular culinary needs.

Food taboos are an old way to head off fraternity with outsiders, much less intermarriage. Sharing a meal with somebody tends to lead toward greater sympathy, but if sharing a meal is impractical due to food taboos …

In China, I’d had the occasion to try to explain to a Chinese host the details of this diet in preparation for a dinner party where a few Jains would be in attendance. The Chinese already struggled with Indian pickiness when it came to food. Indians, especially upper caste/class ones, delineated their status by increasingly finicky choices: no meat, no garlic, no onions. Many, including most Jains, wouldn’t even tolerate a non-vegetarian in the kitchen. …

To the average Chinese for whom status was flagged by the ability to afford as large a variety of food, the meatier the better, such discriminations were deeply mystifying.

When I informed the Chinese host that his Jain guests were not only vegetarian but didn’t eat onions or indeed any kind of root vegetable at all, the gentleman in question gasped as if in the throes of a painful bout of indigestion. And I hadn’t even got to the part about the prohibition on green coloured vegetables on certain days of the religious calendar.

Happily tucking into that steaming-hot rajma in Antwerp, I’d wondered aloud about how difficult it must have been living in Belgium, given Jain dietary strictures. I could only imagine the apoplectic reaction of the typical Belgian waiter to a customer demanding a vegetarian meal, but one without any carrots, potatoes, garlic or onions.

Aditya Jasani, a sharply dressed youngster in his twenties, whose father had moved to Antwerp in the 1970s, shook his head. It wasn’t that bad, he’d said in his generic, international-school accent. “Many of us aren’t very strict anymore. Some people even eat eggs.”

I’d tried to look suitably impressed at this radical declaration. … What about the other reasons for the Gujarati’s success in Antwerp, I asked, steering the conversation back to where it had started.

“It’s our joint-families”, Kedia replied. Joint families refer to the convention of many family members living together in one house. But what Kedia meant was the propensity amongst Gujarati Jains to have large, closely-knit families.

Dilip Mehta, the CEO of Rosy Blue, an Antwerp-headquartered company that bills itself as the world’s largest diamond manufacturer, agreed, when I met him at his office on Hoveniersstraat later in the afternoon. “We always have the possibility of global distribution because a cousin or nephew who can blindly be trusted can always be sent to any country to set up operations,” he explained, leaning into a high-backed leather swivel chair.

That the Jews lacked similar extended families was a major disadvantage for them, in Mehta’s opinion. Given the global nature of the trade, he argued that it was necessary for successful diamantaires to have a reach that extended from the African countries where the diamond mines were located, to Antwerp where stones were traded, to India and increasingly China, where cutting and polishing was focused, and finally to the jewelry centers of the world like New York, Hong Kong, and Dubai. …

“We employ over 10,000 people globally, but a member of the Mehta family heads every operation,” he said, his eyes crinkling above his beak-like nose. …

How integrated into broader Belgian society were the Indians, I asked him. Did his kids go to Belgian school? Was there any inter-marrying? The Jains were a notoriously conservative community back in India, and I was curious about how the decades of living in Belgium had impacted their mores.

“I think our challenge is really to learn how to keep some distance between ourselves and the Belgians on the one hand, and learn from them on friendly terms, on the other,” opined Mehta. Most Indians lived in ghettos he’d said, because nothing in their education back home had equipped them to deal with living amongst Europeans. They avoided contact with locals because they were nervous about coming across as unmannered and incompetent. …

But what about the second generation who had been born and schooled in Antwerp? Mehta said most families sent their kids to English-speaking international schools, so that only a handful of youngsters had learnt Flemish, the variant of Dutch spoken in northern Belgium. Inter-marrying was almost unknown.

Aditya Jasani, the youngster I’d met at lunch earlier confirmed this. “Most of us still live like expats,” he’d said. “We have one foot here, but another foot in India. Belgium is for business only. It’s not our home.” …

The best-financed cricket club in Belgium, Blommaert revealed, was called the Antwerp Indians, whose members comprised the prosperous Gujarati diamond traders. But instead of using their resources to popularize the sport within the wider community, the Antwerp Indians didn’t permit anyone not of Indian origin to join their club. Clearly, promoting integration, even of the innocent sporting kind, was not a priority for them.

This is excerpted from New Old World: An Indian Journalist Discovers the Changing Face of Europe.

 
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  1. Daniel H says:

    >>………….in part by being more clannish than the Orthodox Jews.

    All I can say is, WOW!, but I believe it.

    • Replies: @Lot
    , @Don't Look at Me
  2. The real scandal is the diamond trade itself whether in the hands of Afrikaaners, Jews or Gujaratis. The fact that the practice of restricting or hoarding supply in order to artificially inflate prices is never investigated by any government or consumer watchdog group is something I dont get. You want to smash these money grubbing diamond merchants? Smash their filthy cartel.

    And this

    Aditya Jasani, the youngster I’d met at lunch earlier confirmed this. “Most of us still live like expats,” he’d said. “We have one foot here, but another foot in India. Belgium is for business only. It’s not our home.”

    as well as this

    The best-financed cricket club in Belgium, Blommaert revealed, was called the Antwerp Indians, whose members comprised the prosperous Gujarati diamond traders. But instead of using their resources to popularize the sport within the wider community, the Antwerp Indians didn’t permit anyone not of Indian origin to join their club. Clearly, promoting integration, even of the innocent sporting kind, was not a priority for them.

    makes me hang my head in shame. If tomorrow Belgium gives them the Idi Amin treatment Ill just cheer.

  3. Anon[407] • Disclaimer says:

    Can someone offer an opinion on whether Chinese are capable of building these type of mercantile networks?

    Could the Han one day muscle out the Indians from the diamond trade?

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Zoodles
    , @Alden
  4. You will not see this news make the national press:

    21 year old Syrian “refugee” arrested for plotting to bomb black church in Pittsburgh

    https://triblive.com/local/pittsburgh-allegheny/feds-syrian-man-arrested-for-plotting-to-bomb-pittsburgh-church/

  5. I doubt it. Not many Han have large families nowadays.

    • Replies: @LibertyVini
  6. In before Thomm comes in to defend his brethren. Indians and clannishness go together like bacon and heart disease

    Massive Hindu immigration has already finished off tech as a pure meritocracy as we knew it. Soon enough other professions would follow.

    There was a reason dot Indians were rightly looked at as being extremely cunning and shifty by some of the earlier presidents and as such restricted their numbers to the very cream of the crop. Now you have Hindu nationalists claiming “asylum” in Chicago and Jersey city, even though there is a hard core Hindu nationalist government in India. You see, THAT is winning every time; in the US and in India.

    Peterike better put down his “law” into a tablet for the future dalits and harijans of the US of A. If they can beat the Jews at their game, whites stand no chance of outmaneuvering this tribe. They already control huge swaths of the west and north east and are simply buying out the heartland (which is way too cheap now for them). Unless something “disruptive” happens (as they say in tech), non dot Indian proles can look forward to a future like the blacks of Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania where these Indians are the overlords and have their leaders in their pockets

  7. Anon[859] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    The diamond trade that these merchants specialize in is the low-end value of the supply chain. Thats why the jews who did it before were Orthodox. Lots of kids implies lots of cheap labour. The wealthy jews had moved on since a long time ago to become dealers in New York, London etc. Or owning the companies doing the extraction (such as Glencore, which is controlled by a jew). That is where the real value lies. What these guys are doing is the low-end stuff.

    Han Chinese see no need to get rich off of that. Its basically a classic middle-man type of job. Its a step above being in the mines digging it up but not much more than that. Its also why China is a lot richer than India. China’s smart fraction, already much larger than India’s, have devoted themselves to genuine innovation. They first got rich actually building stuff in factories and then went on to the higher-technology spheres. That is why we see the US-China tensions now. Why would they want to downgrade themselves doing menial work like this, which has little value-added?

    There are lots of these merchant middle-man castes. Armenians have had the same function in the Middle East. Doesn’t make Armenia prosperous. It just enriched a tiny set of families from Armenia. The same rule applies here.

    The diamond merchant trade is not really significant, it doesn’t upgrade your country. It may make a particular community well-off but that doesn’t cascade to the country they come from. Jains are a tiny, tiny minority within India. Not as small as Parsis but they are heading the same way demographically. Its a classic rent-seeking middle-man minority. Any comparison to the Han majority is totally superfluous. The Han have actually built an impressive country of their own. India is still mostly a shithole with a much smaller cognitive elite dying to escape it.

  8. Anon[870] • Disclaimer says:

    Indians are extremely insular and clannish, cliquish and quite two faced. But then that is par for the Hindu course. As long as they are small in number, they pretend otherwise.

    They’ve perpetrated a ‘caste’ system of birth based discrimination for thousands of years and are quite proud about it (in private). Jains are literally the icing on the cake and much more exclusionary than your regular run of the mill Rajesh. To have a Hindu lecture whites on diversity and inclusion is to have a butcher regale us with the benefits of veganism, to have a drug addled hippie croon us on the joys of healthy living (you get the picture)

    Working in tech surrounded by many of these two faced Hindus, I absolutely dread the prospect of a Hindu topped Murica much much more than the latinos. Those mexicalis for all their faults still look up to heritage Americans and a chica marrying into a white family brings admiration to their extended family. With the Hindus, it is the exact opposite.

    White Americans must be very very vigilant with this so called ‘model’ minority. They are far more deadly in the long run than those coming streaming in from the southern border although both must be curtailed. If you don’t believe me, look at how Italian immigration has turned out vis-a-vis Eastern European Jewish immigration in the US. Which group has had a far more lasting and damaging impact on the foreign, monetary and immigration policies of the US? There you go!

  9. SFG says:

    Well, at least the Chinese can share food with the Jewish merchants the Indians have displaced…

    • Replies: @Escher
    , @Olorin
  10. George says:

    I thought the expensive diamond business was really the money laundering business. Buy a $250000 diamond with cash in NYC and take it to where ever and sell it for say $230000 cash to a relative of the person who sold it to you. It only works if you have a worldwide network of merchants that don’t talk or keep detailed records. There is a reason why people buy these things from some guy with a stall in the diamond district mall and not Costco or Blue Nile.

    • Replies: @JRM
    , @Coburn
  11. Zoodles says:
    @Anon

    The chinese do build these personal networks of family and associates. They called Guanxi. These Guanxi give Chinese in southeast Asia a huge advantage over the locals and allow them to build and maintain market dominance.

  12. @Dr Van Nostrand

    Evidently the industrial diamond consumers got a $290MM settlement from DeBeers.

    https://classactionrecoveryservice.com/debeers.htm

    I’m part of a class action re: jewellery diamonds that is in progress.

  13. Anonymous[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    If you had to survive in such a hyper competitive society as India, where you literally have to fight for your life for a handful of rice, then you’d be deeply clannish, distrustful and duplicitous too – not to mention you’d get down cheating big, fat, dumb western Economist whipped immigration officials down to a fine art.

    Put it this way, it’s a racing certainty that senior government officials – and ‘opinion formers’ are being bribed big time by subcons.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Anon
  14. Next you can look at how the Opium wars were all about protecting the business of the Indian merchant castes like the Marwaris:

    Oh look, there’s a Jain connection in that story too:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarachand_Ghanshyamdas

    India’s richest families, Marwaris, all thanks to the British:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birla_family

    From getting China addicted to Indian Opium to financing Gandhi. Is it any wonder China regards India as treacherous? Anyway China could be ruling India in a decade or so the way things are going, ‘cow-belt’ fascism will push Bengalis into China’s arms, followed by Tamils, Keralans etc. It will be China stepping into the vacuum left by the British Empire: ‘India’ will again divide as it always has, and welcome foreign rule to mediate. DNA is destiny alright.

    And did I hear that it was Calcutta merchants like the Marwaris who exacerbated the Bengal Famine by hoarding food to make a literal killing in the market? Well it’s all a matter of business isn’t it? Youngest son has to make his fortune somehow. Lol.

  15. An unsourced claim here: https://halfsigma.typepad.com/half_sigma/2010/08/jainism.html

    “Though the Jains form only 0.42% of the population of India, their contribution to the exchequer by way of income tax is an astounding 24% of the total tax collected.”

    I always thought the Parsis were the top dogs in India.

  16. AaronB says:
    @Anon

    Don’t ruin the sensationalist story telling with prosaic facts 🙂

  17. Escher says:
    @SFG

    Not pork, that’s for sure.

  18. @Dr Van Nostrand

    Why? As immigrants go, these are pretty harmless.

    They admit that Belgium is not home. They don’t make political demands and they don’t pose a demographic threat.

    AFAICS they might have done some Jews out of a job, and that’s about it.

    The fake and gay nation of Belgium should stick to worrying about the North African and Congolese underclass.

    • Agree: Triumph104
    • Replies: @Anon
  19. dearieme says:

    Food taboos are an old way to head off fraternity with outsiders

    That was Spinoza’s explanation of Jewish food taboos. If you want Hebrews not to partake of the religious feasts of their Canaanite or Philistine neighbours, tell ’em the food’s verboten.

    • Replies: @FPD72
  20. I went to a Jain wedding in the UK – they do marry out sometimes (groom was in a kilt, bride – a very bright and sweet girl – in sari). But there was a distinct lack of onion bhajis – the food was pretty bland for Indian food.

    OT but iSteveish – full employment won’t improve fertility if it’s precarious and low-paid.

    https://phys.org/news/2019-06-record-low-fertility-linked-decline-stable.html

    “As the Great Recession wiped out nearly 9 million jobs and 19 trillion dollars in wealth from U.S. households, American families experienced another steep decline—they had fewer children.

    Yet as employment eventually climbed and wages rose, fertility did not. The fertility rates for American women have continued to decline in the years since the recession ended and reached an all-time low of 1.7 children per woman in 2018.

    This continuous decline puzzled scientists, who had previously observed that economic recoveries tend to buoy fertility rates that decline during recessions. The Great Recession seemingly halted that trend.

    New research by University of Wisconsin-Madison sociologist Nathan Seltzer identifies a link between the long-term decline in manufacturing jobs—accelerated during the Great Recession—and reduced fertility rates. Analyzing every birth in America at the county level across 24 years, Seltzer found that the share of businesses in goods-producing industries better predicted a metropolitan area’s fertility rate than the region’s unemployment rate.

    The link between manufacturing jobs and fertility rates was especially strong for Hispanic women, a larger share of whom work in goods-producing industries than do women from other racial or ethnic groups. Manufacturing business activity was a stronger predictor of fertility than the unemployment rate was for all racial groups.

    The results suggest that fertility rates are unlikely to return to pre-recession levels as manufacturing businesses continue to represent a decreasing share of the American economy.”

  21. JRM says:
    @George

    But when it comes to money laundering Dilip Mehta denies being an Indian national.

    “I am not an Indian national and have been a non-resident since 45 years. ”

    https://indianexpress.com/article/india/paradise-papers-dilip-mehta-diamond-industry-appleby-bermuda-offshore-black-money-tax-havens-4927255/

  22. @Dr Van Nostrand

    Yes, Professor, Indians or Jews or anyone else running this “business” aside, it is, and has been, a century-long scam that puts all pyramid schemes totaled together to shame. I urge everyone to read the very interesting account* of the whole business by Edward Jay Epstein. Start with the Prologue, as it has links to all the other chapters. I’d say the whole think is the length of a short book.

    Peak Stupidity wrote a summary a couple of years back – Part 1, Part 2, Part 3. The gist of it is the realization that from the mines to the retail stores, the whole business is monopolized like none other. Try getting 90% of your money back for a diamond ring even the next day. For something with real value, that’d be a no brainer for any business.

    .

    * Epstein was in Africa at the mines, Amsterdam or Antwerp for the diamond “sights” and all over. It’s a travelogue as much as an expose.

  23. L Woods says:
    @Anon

    China’s smart fraction, already much larger than India’s, have devoted themselves to genuine innovation.

    LOL. Theft of genuine innovation is more like it.

  24. @Dr Van Nostrand

    “You want to smash these money grubbing diamond merchants? Smash their filthy cartel.”

    Agree.

    For jewelry, Cubic Zirconia differ only trivially from diamonds. In a blindfold (not literally) test, consumers (and experts without lab equipment) would not be able to tell them apart. It’s analogous to the infamous California vs. French blindfold taste test of the mid 1970’s.* The market for diamonds is only maintained by hype.

    *
    https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/05/wine-paris-judgment-california/484187/

  25. Like a lot of other things in this era of Peak Stupidity that we have good reasons to complain about, the simplest solution is to NOT PARTICIPATE. That’s very easy to do when it comes to TV, Hollywood, and lots of other marketing.

    It’s not at all easy to do regarding the diamond business. Who will be the first generation, no the first man with a hot would-be fiancé, who will JUST SAY NO? Don’t even try to use logic, because the woman’s logic will be “the other guys are buying nice rocks, so you must be a real cheap-ass or there’s something wrong with you.” No matter that the value of these gems is determined by a small clan of .Indian people in Antwerp via rectal extraction, she can show her rock off to make her friends feel bad. There’s no price tag on that.

    No, for this sort of thing, you’ve got to pull out the big gun … “We need to save the poor Africans!”. (They like that.). Peak Stupidity lays it out for you:

    Here’s what you tell your young lady:

    “Listen, I’d love to buy you that big diamond we saw at Jarrod, and yes I know it makes you horny (for a while). It’s just that, sob sob …”

    “Yes? What’s wrong, honey… wait, you’ve GOT THE MONEY, don’t you?!”

    “Yes, it’s not that … it’s just … well, the terrible conditions in the mines in these countries in Africa … I’m so concerned. There are murders every day. Rape! Genocide! I can’t be part of this … no way!”

    “Ohhh…. ”

    “Yeah, I think I should get you a ruby instead. Sure, they’re, cough, cough .. a little bit, cough, cough, cheaper, but they come from different African countries where all the miners do is kick the ever-lovin’ shit out of each other.”

    AEN full disclosure: Yes, I did buy one of these worthless rings, but luckily my 2-month’s salary wasn’t a whole lot at that time.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  26. peterike says:

    Antwerp’s Indian diamantaires are almost without exception Jains and, given the religious restrictions on their diet, tend to import personal cooks from India who are familiar with their particular culinary needs.

    Oh, they “import personal cooks.” So basically slaves, amirite? A nice twist on chain migration, too. I don’t know if it matters in the uber-cucked dying geographic entity known as Belgium, but I’m sure in America that “personal cook/slave” is presented as an old Auntie or whatever, given just enough fake family connection to be allowed in via chain migration. Or they just overstay their visa. I mean, whatever. It’s not like the personal cook is ever allowed to leave the house. How would they get caught?

    Also interesting that the diamond business went from one set of clannish, miserable people with imbecilic dietary restrictions based on the demands of an imaginary sky pilot to another set of clannish, miserable people with imbecilic dietary restrictions based on the same thing.

    My guess is that these days, for every 100 immigrants that flood into the nation, probably 85-90 are a net negative to the nation, and in many cases a huge net negative.

    The coming Jew-Asian ruling class is going to be all kinds of fun.

  27. Get Bollywood a little bigger, and suddenly the MSM will talk about “the problem with Indians”.

  28. Lot says:
    @Daniel H

    PM BoJo is an example of Elite English, Turks, and Orthodox Jews not being so clannish.

  29. @Zoodles

    The bamboo mafia are the main reason Indonesia and Malaysia are semi-modern countries.

  30. The appraiser on Wabash spent about 20 minutes squinting at it through a microscope before telling me about its microscopic flaws.

    Wabash is Chicago’s diamond district. I knew a Jewish diamond dealer on Wabash and when he died, he left his entire business to his son and nothing to his daughter. His daughter was pissed, and she would have been a more competent businessperson than his son, but that’s how things are done in that world. BTW, when he got sick, they thought he had lung cancer. What it turned out to be was a disease that you can get from pigeons. Anybody familiar with Wabash Avenue in Chicago knows that there are thousands of pigeons that roost under the L tracks and if you park your car under there it will be covered in pigeon crap by the end of the day.

  31. Sleep says:

    I’ve heard that the Indian diamond merchants harvest their diamonds from poorer parts of Africa, and that DeBeers’ reaction to this was to label all such exports “blood diamonds”.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  32. Lot says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    “The fact that the practice of restricting or hoarding supply in order to artificially inflate prices is never investigated by any government or consumer watchdog group is something I dont get.”

    De Beers paid $295 million in a private diamond antitrust case. The feds could have got much more, but never made any attempt:

    https://www.bermantabacco.com/news/diamond-antitrust-case-is-concluded/

    The lawyers who sued De Beers? A Jew and an Italian (Norm Berman and Joe Tobacco).

    The Alioto and Saveri families are old San Francisco Italian families with private antitrust practices. Joe Alioto was also mayor of SF for 8 years and his 7 kids and many grandchildren are still involved in both antitrust law and politics.

    • Replies: @El Dato
  33. M_Young says:

    “Food taboos are an old way to head off fraternity with outsiders, much less intermarriage.”

    Often a man is what he doesn’t eat — Ernest Gellner.

  34. Anonymous[214] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    Yes, how dare the people of Antwerp let their cricket be stolen by these interlopers? What’s next, Hindu shrines where most of the worshipers are Indians?

    Also, Belgium is a gain country. It’s no surprise that they are replaced like the “Guyanese”. Here’s what you are missing: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6911509.stm

    I am not saying it’s cool to have these vibrant characters nesting themselves in the center of Europe, but the locals coulnd’t care less about their “country”, so why would others be more anxious? They will reap what they sow.

    • LOL: Dr Van Nostrand
  35. Dilip Mehta

    This surname sure gets around. Jains here, Gujaratis in Steve’s other recent article, Parsees like Zubin Mehta…

    Say, don’t Jain holy men live out their lives in the nude? How well does that go over in Flanders?

    There’s no twerp like an Antwerp…

  36. Abe says:
    @Lot

    Bo[ris]Jo[hnson]

    That small but highly memorable role in PRINCESS BRIDE really seems to have paid dividends.

  37. Speaking of Indians and diamonds, where are all the subcontinentals in baseball? The first one, Ranbir Grewal, appears to be the last as well.

    You’d think their passion for cricket would translate well. Do they just stay with cricket?

  38. @Lot

    Boris Johnson’s got his bojo working’
    bojo workin’ on me…

  39. istevefan says:

    Aditya Jasani, the youngster I’d met at lunch earlier confirmed this. “Most of us still live like expats,” he’d said. “We have one foot here, but another foot in India. Belgium is for business only. It’s not our home.” …

    No, it’s not your home. And it’s good that you are not getting too attached. It will make leaving easier.

    But today it is the Mehtas and the Shahs rather than the Epsteins and Finkelszteins who rule Hoveniersstraat. Indians have come to control almost three-quarters of Antwerp’s diamond industry, a figure that had been associated with the Jews only a few decades ago.

    Is there a reason why the diamond biz has to be located in Antwerp? It seems every other business can and will migrate to other locations as conditions warrant. So why is this business still concentrated in a Belgian city whose people no longer participate materially in the business?

    If Jews do or did dominate, why not concentrate this business in Tel Aviv? If Indians now dominate, why not concentrate there?

    I get the fact that the mining operation has to be where the diamonds are. I get the fact that the major sales offices have to be in NYC and other cities with a shitload of money. But why is Antwerp still in the equation?

  40. songbird says:
    @Lot

    Is he really part Turk? I thought he was part Circassian-who-lived-in-Turkey. Lawrence of Arabia pretended to be Circassian, and the Turks bought it. Though, that did not make him safe from sexual assault. (at least, as I have presumed)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  41. @Anon

    Can’t add much your analysis, but I readily agree. I spent the last two weeks in a suburb of Detroit and couldn’t believe the number of Indians that there were. One upscale tract-housing development through which I walked appeared to be nearly one hundred percent Indian with a few Chinese/Japanese (I can’t tell the difference from facial features). In the long run, subcontinent Indians are a much more dangerous subculture than the Mestizos/Amerindians.

  42. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:

    Sharing a meal with somebody tends to lead toward greater sympathy, but if sharing a meal is impractical due to food taboos

    It prevents more that just “sympathy”. It prevents proximity, acquaintanceship, familiarity in the first place.

  43. @Lot

    If the UK ends up with a Prime Minister BoJo, it will be further evidence that Canada is the proving ground of the globalists. He would simply be an uglier and more buffoonish version of our cotton-candy, pretend Prime Minister, Justin. Oddly enough, Trump may end up playing the same role in the White House despite his own wishes, or those of his base. Trump may just have to settle with being another goofball figurehead, like the others.

  44. El Dato says:

    In a normal society, such an article would mean Belgian Kossacks riding through the night, performing readjustments.

    Not here. Literally, “do you want fries with that”?

    This is not Julius Caesar’s Belgium.

    • Replies: @Lot
  45. Uhh, why did Mehta depart from the family diamond business? Was there some breach of ethnocentric obligation?

  46. songbird says:

    I like artificial diamonds, and I also think every guy getting married shouldn’t get a diamond ring. It is a made-up tradition. Like some of these hallmark holidays, but where they tell you you are supposed to give like two months of your life to buy the card. In Japan, they tried to make it three, but the Japanese were too smart for them.

    And of course, diamonds aren’t forever. They can be smashed from the right angle. Sometimes, people are killed and their intestines squeezed out to search for diamonds – I wouldn’t trust the source, not matter what they say about non war-zone diamonds.

    • Replies: @Anon
  47. Clanishness was historically the key to survival and will be again. Favoring yours and your own in an unwelcoming, if not outright hostile environment, be it in nature or a city, gave advantages that individuals unallied did not enjoy.

    Ethnic consciousness is on the rise again, and without every group being as welcoming as the next, anyone who, doe-eyed, continues to adhere to civic nationalism has painted a target on himself.

  48. Thanks for writing this. I have an interest in religious societies and didn’t know anything about Jains. I wonder what their women-folk do.

    Diamond cartels wouldn’t exist if people would stop buying diamonds. I love synthetic stones set in precious metal for their clarity and low cost.

    That the Jews lacked similar extended families was a major disadvantage for them, in Mehta’s opinion.

    Ultra Orthodox Jews have the family network, but the men devote their time to religious studies. Although, I have seen several Ultra Orthodox in the diamond industry, but I guess not enough or organized enough to compete with Jains.

    • Replies: @Lot
  49. Ibound1 says:

    If experience teaches us anything, it will teach us that this is sure to work out super well for the next 1000 years or so.

  50. Lurker says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve driven through Antwerp, it would appear to be largely Muslim-occupied territory. Grim.

    • Agree: Ibound1
    • Replies: @Lot
  51. The Jain symbols, definitely not Woke, are also used in Hinduism. Not easy to find out who was there first, but it pre-dates Buddhism.

    Jain symbol

    Jain flag – I presume they don’t fly it in the Hoveniersstraat.

  52. Mike1 says:

    People could also get off their butt and compete if they want to win. This endless whining is sad.

    Want to sell diamonds? Do it! Want to work for Facebook? Go do it!

    You are not winning because you are not trying. The problem is in the mirror.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  53. @Reg Cæsar

    There are two types of Jain ascetics- Digambars which means covered by the sky and Svetambar which is covered by white. The former obviously are nudists. You can find a lot of NSFW pics on google of housewives and young girls seeking blessings of these nude dudes.

  54. LondonBob says:

    The only Jain I have known eats plenty of meat, his family are one of the richest in Africa.

  55. @Anon

    India is still mostly a shithole with a much smaller cognitive elite dying to escape it.

    India is a fake country created by the British and held together by opportunistic Anglophilic and Anglophone elites because it benefits them for now. And to foster unity ,they hype the rather lame boogeyman of Pakistan. All I said about India is applicable to Pakistan but to a smaller degree.

    A good chunk of India was well developed and prosperous before the British took it over. I am not talk about the lives of maharajahs but day to day ordinary folk in states such as Mysore, Baroda, Punjab for instance.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  56. @Reg Cæsar

    Mehta is a caste name associated with trade in Western India such as Gujarat and Punjab. Parsees often pick up Hindu caste names when applicable. So do Muslims occasionally.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  57. Lot says:
    @Lurker

    Yeah a lot of Belgium looks grim like that, decaying ancient city centers full of especially surly looking Muslims of both Arab and black stock. Worse than Paris, Amsterdam, or Rotterdam. Molenbeek is probably the worst Islamic ghetto in Western Europe.

    https://armedia.am/eng/news/28713/molenbeek-islamic-ghetto-in-the-heart-of-belgium.html

    From a Belgian local, but seems strangely familiar to Americans blessed to live in vibrant areas:

    “Double parked cars, drivers who block a junction in order to speak with each other, youth hanging about who look at you as if you’ve entered their private domain.”

    https://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2009/09/brussels-ghettos-of-brussels.html

    • Replies: @Ibound1
    , @anonymous
  58. @StripsOfRed

    It is painful for me to write this but I agree. Land should not be sold to anyone with deep pockets, it is the most potent and enduring essence of nationhood.
    The Chinese have wrecked the real estate market in Vancouver. Ditto for Saudis, Russians in London.

  59. Lot says:
    @Triumph104

    “Fake diamonds” look usually fake and gaudy because they feature a large stone in a cheap setting.

    A CZ sized like .75 or 1 ct diamond in a good setting will require a trained eye and magnifying to distinguish.

    • Replies: @Anon
  60. @Anon

    “If you don’t believe me, look at how Italian immigration has turned out vis-a-vis Eastern European Jewish immigration in the US. ”

    Jews of West European origin already well established in U.S viewed these Eastern arrivals with horror. The language they used against their appearance and mannerisms is not all that different from Hitler’s . Of course they lead to different conclusions and ahem solutions regarding them.

  61. Can we just all agree and blame women for this horrid commodity?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  62. Buroaker says:

    Istevefan:

    If Jews do or did dominate, why not concentrate this business in Tel Aviv? If Indians now dominate, why not concentrate there?

    Cuz the filth they have to mingle with to make it all work would have to be near their homes and loved ones

  63. Thea says:
    @Lot

    Americans once looked to the English as the highest, most dignified and refined home of our culture.

    • Replies: @Cagey Beast
  64. Molenbeek seems to be yet another mill town our governing classes thought they could keep going by filling it with immigrants, along the American model. Places like Laurence and Lowell in Massachusetts, or Endicott, New York, ended up producing long lists of accomplished people but I doubt we’ll see the same from Molenbeek or Brampton, Ontario.

  65. Svigor says:

    Indians have recently pushed Orthodox Jewish diamond businessmen largely out of their stronghold in Antwerp, Belgium, in part by being more clannish than the Orthodox Jews.

    WTF, I love street-shitters now.

    Fuck yes. How do we get Jews and Indians to fight all the time? Can we replace our Jewish overlords with Indian overlords? At least Indians look different. Then even average IQ Whites can look at the regime and understand it ain’t us. That’s a really big deal.

    But, back to the question at hand, how to weaponize? Do we parachute whole clans of Indians into Jewish population zones? Smuggle them in via coyote? Offer them scholarships but only to Jew-heavy schools? Give them double affirmative action in Jew-heavy fields? We need to move the pajeets out of apolitical stuff like STEM and into lawyering, finance, oh, and big media! Sure, Indians are low-charisma but look at who they’ll be replacing – Jews are low-charisma, too. And very low-vis in their diversity, btw, which is a problem, no matter which side of the issue you’re on.

    Wait, I know: an underground railroad!

  66. Anon[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    A CZ sized like .75 or 1 ct diamond in a good setting will require a trained eye and magnifying to distinguish.

    Do you recommend synthetic over stone diamonds? What is a CZ?

    • Replies: @Lot
  67. @Reg Cæsar

    We have enough problems with Dominicans as is.

  68. OT: could someone explain the crime in the NXIVM sex case? https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/19/nyregion/nxivm-trial-raniere.html

    Since when is it illegal to run a sex cult?

  69. Alfa158 says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    Attempting to break the monopolies will result in accusations of selling “blood diamonds”. I’m curious if the Leonard DiCaprio film was to some extent an agit-prop piece to convince people a non DeBeers monopoly diamond originates from people who chop off the hands of African kids.

    There was a piece on one of the TV news magazines years ago that followed a NYC diamond merchant as he worked. The level of clan trust was astonishing . Everyone wore either a kippa or fedora. The merchant entered the cutter’s shop and was ushered into a cubicle and then presented with carefully folded pieces of paper which each contained a variety of diamonds. He would be told the price of each packet and allowed to examine the contents. Interestingly the buyer never used one of the electronic testers that verified if the diamonds were real, he only examined them under a loupe for quality. There was no replacement, substitution, deletion of stones from a packet, or haggling over the asking price. He either took a packet or didn’t. If he bought any of the packets he simply put them in his briefcase and left. No cash, checks or receipts changed hands. The buyer was totally trusted to wire the payment over later on.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
  70. Many of you don’t know how out-of- control the situation really is.

    Three years ago, Trump held a campaign rally at Gruman Corp in the Old LEM Building. There is a historical plaque when you come into Gruman…On the plaque:”Gruman Corp site of the construction of the LEM that landed on the Moon in 1969”……

    Gruman Corp is located on the Bethpage-Hicksville border….In 1969, Bethpage-Hicksville was 100 percent Native Born White American White Worker Class. Gruman Corp Workforce in 1969 was 98 percent Native Born White American.

    In 2020, the area surrounding a Gruman Corp has been annexed by India demographically….Newsday has orgasms about Hicksville being transformed into little India….

    They hate us….They want to demographically exterminate THE HISTORIC NATIVE BORN WHITE AMERICAN WORKING CLASS MAJORITY….They have accelerated the process….while you were sitting in NFL Football Stadiums….

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  71. @ThreeCranes

    “Cubic Zirconia differ only trivially from diamonds”

    You can now buy synthetic diamonds – real, flawless ones – although de Beers are well involved.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_diamond#Gemstones

    https://puregrowndiamonds.com/

    The name of the owners of Pure Grown Diamonds? Mehta.

  72. Messrs Mehta and Aiyar are tedious. –YAWN–

    Let me guess, one of them was the middle guy on the couch, right?

    Typical resentful nerds (I was one once too; I let it go. Things started happening after that)
    I’m guessing they missed all the fun, because insular alien clan:

    Yeah, I have two Scottish and 1 Irish clan in my direct bloodline; we’ve been quite fecund and been around. In fact, one son of these Scottish clans achieved the summa summarum of human exploration to date. See if you can guess which one, Mr. Aiyar.

    I’m sorry, what is it that your people do again? –YAWN–

  73. neir says:
    @Zoodles

    the difference is guanxi is not a purely blood-based network, so it’s not as close as an extended family network.

  74. Ibound1 says:
    @Lot

    Hard to feel sorry for that Belgian guy when you read this:

    Twenty years ago I was convinced that the young new-Belgians would quickly be assimilated

    So he and his friends caused the problem. Many of us were arguing with guys like this twenty years ago (all the way up to today). We were called Racist, Fascist, Nazi, Xenophobe, Islamophobe.

    I guess waking up late is better than never waking up at all – but that might not even be true. It may be too late.

  75. Sam Harris’s jainism is starting to make a lot more sense.

  76. @Kolya Krassotkin

    Ethnic consciousness is on the rise again, and without every group being as welcoming as the next, anyone who, doe-eyed, continues to adhere to civic nationalism has painted a target on himself.

    Baby boomer dead guy Sam Francis never believed in this so-called “civic nationalist” horseshit.

    People of Southern ancestry know that this so-called “civic nationalist” horseshit is just another filthy scam from the evil and corrupt JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    None But Normans Tonight!

    Saxons Were Slaughtered At Senlac Hill In 1066 And The Normans Who Slaughtered Them Still Own 20 or 30 Percent Of The Land In England.

    The Answer To 1984 is 1066!

  77. From http://www.newsweek.com:

    SEA OTTERS ‘AT RISK’ FROM LOW GENETIC DIVERSITY: ‘THIS IS A WARNING SIGN, A RED FLAG’

    BY HANNAH OSBORNE

    6/18/19 AT 2:01 PM EDT

    In a study published in the journal Molecular Biology and Evolution, researchers looked at the genetic diversity of sea otters. This is a measure of the differences between individuals within a given population. Large populations tend to have high diversity, while small ones—an endangered species, for example—tend to have low diversity.

    Low genetic diversity means a species may be less likely to adapt to changing conditions. A species can lose genetic diversity when there is a sudden population crash—even if numbers recover, the diversity is lost. Cheetahs are an example of this—during the last ice age they almost went extinct.

    Their findings showed sea otters have low genetic diversity, potentially harmful genetic variation and evidence of mating between closely related ancestors. “While low diversity isn’t necessarily dangerous by itself, we also found elevated levels of potentially harmful variation within genes, possibly due to a history of population declines—which could impact the population going forward,” Beichman said in a statement

    .:)

  78. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    ‘Only’ 0.42% of 1.3 billion is still a substantial number.

  79. Anon[961] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    In the case of Johnson, it’s obvious that the John Bull genes are dominant.

  80. Lot says:
    @El Dato

    “Gaul is divided into three parts, one of which the Belgae inhabit, the Aquitani another, those who in their own language are called Celts, in our Gauls, the third. All these differ from each other in language, customs and laws. The river Garonne separates the Gauls from the Aquitani; the Marne and the Seine separate them from the Belgae. Of all these, the Belgae are the bravest, because they are furthest from the civilization and refinement of our Province, and merchants least frequently resort to them, and import those things which tend to effeminate the mind; and they are the nearest to the Germans, who dwell beyond the Rhine, with whom they are continually waging war“

  81. Corvinus says:

    “Diamond merchants are about the last who ought to lecture white Americans on their failures of inclusion and diversity.”

    Actually, Mr. Sailer, it began with the English monopoly in South Africa. A learned man such as yourself should have that basic knowledge.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cecil_Rhodes

    So the Jews and the Indians (dot, not feathers) are simply following their lead. Rhodes and others create the blueprint. The English were the original GCDM’s (globalist clannishness diamond merchants).

    “The secret to the diamond business is arranged marriages and the threat of ostracism.”

    No, Mr. Sailer. It’s called greed, and it is a universal human trait.

  82. @Dr Van Nostrand

    Mehta doesn’t have the panache, or pastiche, of Sodabottlewalla.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
  83. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Perfectly acceptable diamonds of a good size can now be manufactured industrially from base carbon.

    In fact one commercial firm promises or promised a process by which a decedent’s cremated ashes are, claimed, to be to be ‘transformed’ into a diamond by submission to the said process.

  84. Coburn says:
    @George

    I thought the expensive diamond business was really the money laundering business.

    This.

    The diamond trade is an alternative to fiat currency. With diamonds you can evade law enforcement, taxes, currency controls, etc.

    Other luxury items like fine art serve a similar function.

    Bit coin is the high tech version of diamonds

    • Replies: @George
  85. Anonymous[155] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Boris is his own self-parody.

  86. @Dr Van Nostrand

    Today’s Bangalore sounds like today’s San Francisco– a tech elite living atop trash, material and human, in the streets.

    • Replies: @Dr Van Nostrand
    , @donut
    , @Ed
  87. Supportive extended family has been such a help to me (and of course many other members) on so many levels I have trouble seeing how people do without it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Incoh
  88. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Supportive extended family has been such a help to me (and of course many other members) on so many levels

    Could you give some examples in support of this contention, for those who either haven’t experienced this or don’t appreciate it?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  89. @Reg Cæsar

    Excuse me sir thats Sodabottleopenerwala to you

    https://www.quora.com%2FIs-Sodabottleopenerwala-an-actual-surname-If-so-what-is-the-story-of-its-origin

    Surnames of Zoroastrians (Parsis) that end with ‘wala’ are usually derived from the place of their origin, or the profession that they or their ancestors had practiced in the past. Sodabottleopenerwala literally means ‘one who opens soda bottles’.

  90. @Reg Cæsar

    Bangalore like San Francisco used to be a very pleasant, scenic city with parks, lakes, wide boulevards and low population density till the 1990s . The invasion of north Indian riff raff coupled with short sighted and venal municipalities has led to this disaster.

  91. JimB says:

    I hear Chinese industrial diamonds are flawless, can be cut brilliantly, and are indistinguishable from genuine diamonds. They also cost pennies on the dollar compared to natural diamonds. My theory is that Orthodox Jews didn’t get outcompeted by the Indians in Antwerp — they saw the handwriting on the wall, unlike the hidebound Indians, and quit the diamond business for arms dealing. Some mercantile minorities are smarter than others.

    • Agree: Daniel H
    • Replies: @aerdfs
  92. Anonymous[350] • Disclaimer says:
    @TelfoedJohn

    Every higher religion and caste likes to invent stories about how smart they are. I am sure Jains and Parsis are small change compared to the )ews – if you ask (((them))). Blessed by God, marry loving cousin, sire high-IQ Tay-Sachs progeny, and all that.

  93. @Svigor

    Those who voted for Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley disagree but to be fair they are converts to Christianity which probably made their assimilation and subsequent acceptance a lot smoother.

    For the record 17th -19century London was a lot filthier than any Indian capital. The sanitation in India today is a disaster but it wasnt always so.

  94. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    Actually, Johnson’s family background is a good example of “clannishness”.

    Clans are exogamous and organized around a particular lineage, typically a patriline. They guard against other patrilines, while seeking to expand their own. “Johnson” is not Boris’s paternal surname but was adopted from a maternal relative. Johnson’s paternal line is actually Turkish. On Johnson’s maternal side, one of his great grandfathers was Jewish. So his background reflects the expansion of Turkish and Jewish patrilines, and the relative decline of English patrilineage. It’s especially ironic since he has such a stereotypically common English surname and is a Tory, which is traditionally the party of Little England and the aristocracy, which is based on patrilineage and primogeniture.

  95. @Alfa158

    Sounds a lot like the hawala operations that Middle Eastern countries have.

  96. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    “Turks” are Greeks, Armenians, Georgians, Circassians, Albanians, Anatolians, etc. who speak Turkish, practice Islam, have Turkish citizenship and a Turkish national identity.

  97. El Dato says:
    @Lot

    Natural diamonds are not exactly a good that’s in high demand (i.e. has an inelastic demand curve).

    If prices “inflate” (rather, “increase”) as supply is restricted instead of crashing, that’s not the fucking problem of anyone except money launderers and warlords.

  98. These people in Antwerp are different though from the Hindu subcaste that Mehta belongs to, right? They are not technically Hindus. I remember reading Thomas Sowell a while ago discussing about how well the Jews and Jains got along in the diamond business in Antwerp, I guess things have changed.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
  99. nebulafox says:

    Of course, the ugly fact that most iSteveites won’t fess up to is that Trump is fully complicit in all of this through his abetting of the H2-B program and visa lotteries and general “Muh Reaganism” policies. It’s apparently some 4D chess game to boost having MORE LEGAL IMMIGRATION THAN EVER. By benefiting tech oligarchs who don’t even vote for the GOP rather than your own supporters, he’ll achieve… something.

    Most cut-and-paste coding work does not take a genius to do, despite Silicon Valley’s claims, and most of it will be automated away in the future, I’d imagine. I wonder what’ll happen with the newly underemployed or unemployed new arrivals, whether in the working class or in the rapidly declassing middle class, competing with underemployed or unemployed-and increasingly bitter at official policy from DC that seems to never change no matter who they elect-legacy Americans? History should give a hint: nothing good.

  100. @Thea

    Cheap travel, soccer hooliganism and package holidays helped kill the myth of the English gentleman on the Continent as well. As for BoJo’s social class, old boys from Harrow and Eton probably walk around in white Capri pants and have sunglasses on the top of their head.

    A generation earlier they were already “eating ice cream in the street, consorting with Jews and listening to Negro jazz music”. That’s how a WW2 era German officer described his West German successors to my father, many years ago. It fits here as well.

  101. @istevefan

    “Is there a reason why the diamond biz has to be located in Antwerp? It seems every other business can and will migrate to other locations as conditions warrant. So why is this business still concentrated in a Belgian city whose people no longer participate materially in the business?”

    http://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap8.htm

    Oppenheimer realized that controlling this vital supply of industrial diamonds was necessary to protect the power of his cartel. He was especially concerned about the Forminiere Mines in the Belgian Congo, where black, poorly crystallized diamonds could be mined by the ton rather than the carat. He wrote his son Harry: “There can only be one policy for Dc Beers …. make sure of this Congo production even if the Forminiere diamonds have to be bought in addition [to bort] …. Forminiere will dictate the post-war policies Of the diamond trade. By controlling the Congo production De Beers will maintain its leading position in diamonds.To assure that these crucial mines in the Congo did not slip out of De Beers’ control, Sir Ernest negotiated what amounted to a private treaty with the Belgian government. In return for guaranteeing that the Forminiere Mines would sell all its bort to a De Beers subsidiary in London called the Industrial Diamond Corporation, Oppenheimer agreed to provide the Belgian cutting industry with the lion’s share of diamonds from all of De Beers’ mines. London would have a complete monopoly on the distribution of diamond powder, and Antwerp, which employed some 20,000 cutters, would remain the preeminent center for cutting diamonds. Working through the Belgian banks, Oppenheimer further insured his leverage in the Congo by buying a large block of stock in a Belgian holding company called Sibeka, which owned controlling shares in the mines in the Congo. Pierre Crokaert, a Belgian financier whose family’s banking intcrests were closely allied with those of Oppenheimer’s, became a board member of De Beers and a deputy to Oppenheimer. He undertook the responsibility for regulating the production of diamonds from the Congo in accordance the quota set by De Beers. With the completion of this arrangement with the Belgians, De Beers became an international cartel.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
  102. anonymous[922] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot

    decaying ancient city centers full of especially surly looking Muslims

    Lol! I suppose we are a surly looking lot. But, let me tell you, that “unpleasant” look, along with our true monotheist beliefs, does help in keeping the *beep* Satan at bay, for the most part.

    In stark contrast though, the *beep* Satan loves his cursed self some bent over whitey ass. 😉 And, he is going to have the likes of you, all to himself, for all eternity. Just imagine, you guys are going to have a rockin’ time together. 😀

  103. Speaking of clans:

    The backlash against Somali refugees in St. Cloud: ‘These people aren’t coming from Norway’

    Good news: Catholic Charites is no longer involved. They finally listened to the rank-and-file. No word on Lutheran Social Services. They no doubt see German Catholic St Cloud as enemy territory.

    • Replies: @Olorin
  104. @nebulafox

    Most cut-and-paste coding work does not take a genius to do

    Or even a human being.

  105. @nebulafox

    I dont know what are the sources for the claims that there is more immigration than never. From the supply side, I have friends and relatives who applied to immigration agencies who say that Canada, Australia and NZ are wide open but U.S -forget about it. I am talking about on the ground realities in foreign countries where I have contacts. Those H1/H2s approvals are most likely backlogs which were given a green light due to the booming economy. Just chill.

  106. Incoh says:
    @Desiderius

    @Desiderius
    With much struggle and little success. Why do you think all the ZOGs in the developed world have been propagandizing white people to hate and distance themselves from their parents, not start families of their own, and live life only looking out for their own immediate benefit?

  107. @Unladen Swallow

    Thomas Sowell is just as much of a Black Boob as Tennessee Coates.

    Remember, Thomas Sowell viciously attacked the Scotch-Irish people by suggesting that Black criminality and Black violence were learned behaviours that the Black slaves on plantations aped from their Scotch-Irish plantation overseers.

    Thomas Sowell is an anti-White agitator of the worst sort.

    Thomas Sowell would have you believe that Blacks were innocent little lambs of a sweet nature until such time as they had exposure to the violently psychotic Scotch-Irish slave plantation overseers!

    Go To Hell, Tommy Sowell!

    It is the Scotch-Irish people that are innocent little lambs of a most sweet and benevolent nature!

    The only thing that riles up the Scotch-Irish people is when some frigging dope nitpicker says you should call them ‘Scots’ instead of SCOTCH.

    SCOTCH-IRISH

    We be no Eerish, we’re Scoatch!

    Tweet from 2015:

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @songbird
    , @Sam J.
  108. anonymous[922] • Disclaimer says:

    The cult in focus here encourages their children to fast unto death;

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-37604951

    If not death, to get their children to take up asceticism, perhaps hoping they too will benefit from some good “karma” and shit;

    https://www.ndtv.com/india-news/giving-up-home-boyfriends-and-ferraris-why-jain-children-choose-diksha-1849806

    Any religious beliefs which prescribes one to renounce the normal life of a human being, is a cult.

  109. @nebulafox

    Trump has stabbed his voter base in the back by pushing for more mass legal immigration and by refusing to deport the upwards of 30 million illegal alien invaders in the USA.

    Trump has stabbed the American people in the back by abandoning his campaign promises on immigration.

    Trump is now screaming bloody murder about pouring more mass legal immigration into the USA “in the largest numbers ever.”

    Trump and the Republican Party must be electorally obliterated in 2020.

    I hereby challenge Trump, Teddy Cruz, Lindsey Graham, Marco Rubio and Mike Pence to a debate on mass legal immigration and illegal immigration and American national identity and multicultural mayhem.

    IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM NOW!

    DEPORT ALL ILLEGAL ALIEN INVADERS NOW!

  110. @Anon

    There are lots of these merchant middle-man castes. Armenians have had the same function in the Middle East. Doesn’t make Armenia prosperous. It just enriched a tiny set of families from Armenia. The same rule applies here.

    The diamond merchant trade is not really significant, it doesn’t upgrade your country. It may make a particular community well-off but that doesn’t cascade to the country they come from. Jains are a tiny, tiny minority within India. Not as small as Parsis but they are heading the same way demographically. Its a classic rent-seeking middle-man minority. Any comparison to the Han majority is totally superfluous. The Han have actually built an impressive country of their own.

    Well said Anon.

    I was just going to say it’s a bullshit business–completely unnecessary, zero value add.

    You’ve made the general point. Middle men do not make a place rich–they just extract wealth. </i>

    Having a nation of smart, conscientious people who work hard and innovate and learn who to produce more efficiently are what make a nation rich. The people who actually made us richer are guys like Newcombe and Watt, Trevithick and Stephenson, Edison, Carnegie, Daimler, Ford, etc. etc. Guys who figured out how to do stuff better.

  111. Anon[257] • Disclaimer says:
    @songbird

    Sapphire and emerald engagement rings are very popular in France.

    The worst thing about diamonds is the way jewelers crud up pretty jewelry with all those diamond chips and sparkles. I don’t mean engagement rings but everything. They do add to the jacked up price, but they ruin the looks of the piece.

  112. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    “That the Jews lacked similar extended families was a major disadvantage for them, in Mehta’s opinion.”

    Jews over centuries have been very clannish due to intra-marriage, it just seems that Jains have undercut them and likely have more kids now. Hasn’t Steve hit on the studies that show how closely related Ashkenazi’s are related? How David Brooks was “stoked” to be related to Steven Pinker? And given their limited ability to work outside of certain industries over centuries in Europe led to their dominance of such. So Ashkenazi Jews were very unlikely to screw over “other Ashkenazi Jews.” In many ways that’s why Bernie Madoff was such a big deal. There have been plenty of Grifters and Ponzi artist, but what made his act so appalling in the eyes of the MSM is that he had the audacity to rip off his own people.

  113. Anonymous[135] • Disclaimer says:

    Ah, this Mehta guy belongs to the diamond merchant clan eh? They are Jains not Hindus. They are definitely the most clannish and business oriented group of people on this Earth, they will definitely put the Jews to shame. They are the richest Indian sub-ethnic group.

  114. Anon7 says:

    OT: San Francisco is the model for the future social structure: software oligarchs, then management, then their smart employees, then gig economy workers for all other businesses, then surplus population of addicts, criminals and homeless. Good coverage of the basic reason behind H1B “legal” immigration; here’s the money quote:

    “Software,” Bill Gates told Forbes in 2005, “is an IQ business. Microsoft must win the IQ war, or we won’t have a future.”

    https://quillette.com/2019/06/19/what-do-the-oligarchs-have-in-mind-for-us/

  115. Daniel H says:

    The Jains were a notoriously conservative community back in India,

    Oh no. Don’t let Karl Rove and the Cucks here about this.

  116. FPD72 says:
    @dearieme

    The Hebrew dietary laws in Leviticus 11 follow the command of YHWH to be holy:

    Leviticus 11:44 for I am the LORD your God and you are to sanctify yourselves and be holy because I am holy. You must not defile yourselves by any of the swarming things that creep on the ground,

    The concept of holiness is separateness. So yes, a major aspect of the dietary laws was to keep the Israelis separated and distinct from their pagan neighbors. Whether you understand this was an artifice conceived by Jewish tribal leaders or a command of God depends on your perspective on the OT text.

  117. Pericles says:
    @ThreeCranes

    That’s why I think the diamond industry is doomed. Doomed!

    It should be noted that De Beers among others are investing in synthetic diamonds. (Possibly in these guys: https://lightboxjewelry.com/ ) Making good quality diamonds is apparently not quite so easy and cheap yet, and they seem to want to position natural diamonds as having greater prestige and blah blah expensive. Even so, I consider that to be coping behavior. The only way is down.

  118. Bruno says:

    Your forget the verbal and numerical IQ of some of Indian jati. As Reich said there are at least 8k groups with extreme endogamy. Some of them, the merchants, must have average IQ around 125 I believe … and the same kind of agressiveness in business that ashkenazim or more.

    See the former head of McKinsey Gupta.

  119. Anonymous[149] • Disclaimer says:
    @Sleep

    There are diamonds in India. The blood diamond thing was an inter-Jewish dispute.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  120. Anonymous[149] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mike1

    De Beers is called a cartel for a reason moron.

  121. Logan says:

    Middle men do not make a place rich–they just extract wealth.

    Not entirely true. Removing inefficiencies is a wealth-producing service.

  122. @Anon

    I go see swami at the Hindu temple when he visits and he brags about there racial wealth before asking for money

  123. Slightly off topic:

    Trump is going to bomb Iran….If there is a God in Heaven….Please prevent this war from occuring….

    BRING THE TROOPS HOME!!!!

    BRING THE TROOPS HOME!!!!

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  124. OFF TOPIC

    Diamond Merchants Ain’t Got Crap On Central Banker Shysters!

    The yield on the ten year US Treasury just went below 2 percent.

    A similar German bond is at NEGATIVE 0.317. You pay the German government for holding your money. Return OF capital more important than return ON capital. Capital conjured out of thin air by central banker shysters.

  125. @TelfoedJohn

    There are 50x as many Jains as Parsis in India.

  126. @nebulafox

    Most cut-and-paste coding work does not take a genius to do

    An intelligent person does not write 100% of his programs from scratch.

    You still have to understand what the code does to reuse it and modify it or refactor it.

    It is said there has only ever been one Makefile. All the rest are modifications of the original.

  127. Wilkey says:

    “I think our challenge is really to learn how to keep some distance between ourselves and the Belgians on the one hand, and learn from them on friendly terms, on the other,” opined Mehta

    Learn *from* the Belgians, But wouldn’t want to teach them anything (things that might allow them to beat us) or become part of them.

    This sounds like tbe standard attitude of people who have come as invaders and parasites.

  128. Alden says:
    @Anon

    The Chinese have huge networks all over Asia Europe and the Americas now moving into Africa There’s a book, Lords Of The Rim by Sterling Seagrave that’s very informative. It’s on PDF.

    It’s been going on for thousands of years. The overseas Chinese arrived in the Philippines around 800 AD and have been a mercantile prosperous class ever since.

    Lots of Chinese are in the jewelry business. They tend to concentrate on jade jade jade instead of stones. Maybe because there’s jade in China They prefer 24 carat rather than 14 carat gold.

    Could it be that the Antwerp diamond jews left the diamond business because as father retired sons went into something else? I’ve read that the European Jewish diamond business moved to Israel. Maybe the Antwerp jews went to Israel. Maybe they went to law school and are now filing lawsuits for Muslim plaintiffs against Belgium and Belgians.

  129. Anonymous[179] • Disclaimer says:

    Babucalypse cannot be understood without Shlomocalypse.

    White surrender to the Jewish Narrative proved to be most fatal, laying the ground for other groups to follow in the footstep of the Tribe.

    Prior to this surrender, white narratives in relation to the Other were never so starkly b/w in moral terms. Many whites admitted slavery to be cruel to blacks but also understood blacks gained much under the white man. Blacks gained access to civilization and advanced ideas. So, it was not a simple case of whites bad and blacks good. Both sides gained something from the other. Whites exploited black labor, but blacks went from savagery to civilization under whites.
    Same with American Indians. Even as whites wrote the narrative of how a great nation was built by taking land from red savages, they also understood Indians had their pride and honor. The tragedy of Indians were eventually honored but without disgracing the white pioneers.
    Even when the Narrative favored whites, the Other was given some consideration. Even when the Narrative favored the Other, whites got some credit.
    Even as whites came to frown upon imperialism, they acknowledged it spread much that was good around the world. It was not a total good nor a total bad. And White Gentile & Jewish Narratives used to be of the same kind. White Gentiles sometimes did wrong, Jews sometimes did wrong. Jews gained much from white gentiles, and white gentiles gained much from Jews. It was never a case of black and white morality tale.

    But the narrative that arose from WWII put forth the template that Jews were always holy, innocent, pure, and blameless whereas white gentiles, at least in regard to Jews, were ALWAYS at fault. So, while Jewish animus toward white gentiles was justified through the ages, white animus toward Jews was always irrational, paranoid, wicked, crazy, and pathological, just another brick on the road that led to the Holocaust.
    It was with the rise of post-WWII Jewish Narrative that Western Morality turned into a binary of total good(Jews) vs total bad(white Christian gentiles who spawned Nazism). Instead of pushing back against this b/w view of the world, whites accepted it whole hog. Thus, there was the new idea that whites could be totally wicked and evil whereas the Other could be totally good and holy. And Jews pushed this narrative model on white-black relations as well. For example, in the past, discussion of reparations would have acknowledged black suffering but also the fact that blacks gained so much as the result of coming in contact with whites, even as slaves. As Muhammad Ali, “I’m sure glad my granddaddy got on that boat.” But such cannot be said today. We have to follow the b/w view that blacks were totally holy and only suffered nobly while wicked whites just sat around and sipped lemonade while grinning fiendishly. Ever since WWII, the world had been divided into ‘nazis’ and ‘jews’, or total evil and total good. And now, Hindus have jumped on the bandwagon and are singing the same tune.

    Now, it’s true WWII showed that whites can be very bad. Nazis were very bad and evil. But such has never been restricted to whiteness. There have been tons of sick African leaders. Khmer Rouge and Maoism showed how crazy Asians can become. Bloody conflicts between Hindus and Muslims in India/Pakistan have been no picnic. And Jewish history has a lot of darkness.

    Unless the West breaks out of the moral binary resulting from WWII narrative, other groups will follow the lead of Jews and push the Narrative of ‘whites so bad’ and ‘we so good’. Anti-white chutzpah has gone global.

  130. …while having the diamond ring appraised to make sure the retailer hadn’t cheated me. The appraiser on Wabash spent about 20 minutes squinting at it…

    That’s what GIA and AGS reports are for.

    Gemological Institute of America

    American Gemological Society

    Don’t buy a diamond from somebody who hasn’t had that done and won’t provide you with the report.

    Avoid EGL (European Gemological Laboratory — London, Paris, Tel Aviv, Tokyo) and IGI (International Gemological Institute — Antwerp). They have lax standards, are more likely to over-grade, and are preferred by crappier retailers.

    • Replies: @Stan d Mute
    , @Reg Cæsar
  131. Olorin says:
    @SFG

    On Christmas especially.

  132. Anon7 says:

    OT: Cleverly, the NYT titles this “High School Athletes File Complaint Over Transgender Policy” as opposed to the rest of the net, which says “Three High School Girls File Discrimination Complaint Over Dominating Transgender Athletes”.

    “Girls deserve to compete on a level playing field,” said Christiana Holcomb, legal counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom. “Women fought long and hard to earn the equal athletic opportunities that Title IX provides. Allowing boys to compete in girls’ sports reverses nearly 50 years of advances for women under this law. We shouldn’t force these young women to be spectators in their own sports.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/06/18/us/ap-us-transgender-athletes-high-school.html

    This way, if you’re just scanning the headlines, you’d get exactly the wrong impression. Is that what the editor’s Stylebook recommends these days?

  133. Hrw-500 says:

    The song “This land is our land” reminds me of that parody made by the guys of JibJab.

  134. @Buzz Mohawk

    Don’t buy a diamond from somebody who hasn’t had that done and won’t provide you with the report.

    Better advice would be “don’t buy a diamond”. Ever try selling a diamond?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  135. What’s the Hindu term for “chutzpah?”

  136. El Dato says:

    https://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-usa-trade-india/exclusive-u-s-tells-india-it-is-mulling-caps-on-h-1b-visas-to-deter-data-rules-sources-idUKKCN1TK2LT

    The globalist clannishness of the mercantile-nepotistic-globotechnohomo-surveillance-state.

    ….Meanwhile the FCC demands cable monopolies in multitenant homes in California to “increase competition”

    ….Meanwhile the US has turned into the ultimate spastic anime girl because “muh drone KYAAA”

    …Meanwhile the chiefs of staff are into first strike nuke doctrine.

    Can we maybe get a single week without bullshit?

  137. Olorin says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Oh puhleeze. The damage has been done, now the catlick is out of the bag. The goyim know, shut it down.

    Immigrant trafficking has been a Vatican Bank/Jesuit Counterreformation strategy my entire life.

    Maybe you notice that they’ve targeted Protestant-majority or -led nations and cities.

    Ever notice how little discussion there is of the Catlicks involved in Hart-Celler?

    And look at how the Catlick Bishops have milked tax dollars during the Obama Years:

    https://capitalresearch.org/article/refugee-resettlement-the-lucrative-business-of-serving-immigrants/

    Way many more times over (about 6 to my eye) than the Lutes in that period. And as the footnote shows in the data box (VOLAGs for dollars), this shows only ONE of the Catholic organizations involved in this people trafficking. They are so numerous that even getting their Form 990s would require a major research effort. (If there’s one thing Romans know, it’s how to hide behind bureaucracy.)

    For more on the overlap of USCCB and Alinsky, here’s the view from a Catlick college in Madison, WI…20 full years ago:

    Theological Studies 59 (1998)
    THE INFLUENCE OF SAUL ALINSKY ON THE
    CAMPAIGN FOR HUMAN DEVELOPMENT
    http://cdn.theologicalstudies.net/59/59.4/59.4.3.pdf

    Per the preface, note that the “nation in crisis” the author presents via well known memes/media stories/narratives/myths about conflict and death, or inflating individual instances of that into something bigger, while covering up for the powers behind the agents.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  138. Never met a Jain, but after the descriptions of their diets and xenophobia I’m almost glad. I worked for Ismaili Muslims before who were welcoming and warm people.

    It’s good to finally hear discussions of Indian clannishness. We should be seriously evaluating the impact of importing clannish people from low trust cultures.

    Also, large family sizes are indeed an advantage in this respect. It is odd that the article mentions Orthodox Jews, since OJs have 7 kids per woman. Geographic dispersal and clannishness are two of the keys to the success of Sephardic Jews over history, and it is no surprise that Indians realize this.

    What surprises me is that whites are so stupid that they think that a reproductive output of 1 kid per couple isn’t a surefire way to doom your children to being serfs.

  139. Anon[381] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    “Opinion formers” are mostly Jewish, so they take perverse pleasure in seeing another group eat the White man’s lunch.

    Nobody is asking Indians to bring their computer “genius” to Tel Aviv.

    Why is that exactly?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Anon
  140. Sean says:

    I am not sure about the clannishness or inclusive fitness angle explain all that much. Your family must be trusted by other families.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism_in_Gujarat
    The family of Mahta being from Gujarat does not mean he is a Jain. However his passive aggressive moralising has a venerable tradition in that part of the world.

    The master of group selection thinking on the function of a holy man and the reputation hecan bestow on a Jain family.

  141. @Anon

    White Americans must be very very vigilant with this so called ‘model’ minority. They are far more deadly in the long run than those coming streaming in from the southern border although both must be curtailed. If you don’t believe me, look at how Italian immigration has turned out vis-a-vis Eastern European Jewish immigration in the US. Which group has had a far more lasting and damaging impact on the foreign, monetary and immigration policies of the US? There you go!

    I’ve know a fair number of Indian-Americans. The quality and the insularity is all over the map. My best friend from grad school–super-smart, based, Trump voter; super-smart, based daughter; doesn’t spend his life hanging out with other Indians. Others … live their lives pretty much in their community.

    The key thing for our survival … immigration must stop.

    Indians are the least likely of all Asian nationalities to out-marry. But nonetheless about 50% of the full 2nd generation does so. (I know a couple 2nd gen girls who call themselves “coconuts”, see themselves as thoroughly American and seem to be exclusively interested in white boys.) But these numbers will deteriorate the more Indians there are in the US. (Heck with enough Indians they’ll mostly marry within their linguistic and caste group. Already many of them socialize that way–Gujus with Gujus, Tamils with Tamils, Punjabis with Punjabis … )

    Stop immigration now, the Indians will simply be absorbed–as will all the Asians–into the US white middle class. There simply isn’t the racial/IQ/conscientiousness/violence divide that you have between blacks and whites. And there isn’t the direct ethno-religious driven–and thousand year baked–hostility the Jews brought with them. The Indians aren’t Christian but they don’t have a bug up their ass about Christians–another god, big deal–they’ll put up a Christmas tree.

    But for any integration to occur … immigration must stop.

    Immigration continues, America is just done. And we should push separation as fast as possible to save a remnant.

  142. @StripsOfRed

    The question is, what happens to Jews once they’ve been pushed out? How much longer will they cling to power? They are still doing well in finance and politics.

  143. A Name says:

    OT:

    Huge study examines rates at which various nationalities return wallets. The results will not shock you…

    https://science.sciencemag.org/content/early/2019/06/19/science.aau8712

  144. Corvinus says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Your quotation serves as further evidence that the English were the original globalist clannishness of diamond merchants. I’m shocked, I mean shocked, that Mr. Sailer neglected to NOTICE past history.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  145. OT:

    Suicide Rates Among US Young Accelerate:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-06-18/suicide-rates-among-young-americans-accelerates-highest-level-2000

    That’s cute how the male rate goes exponential in 2016.

    This is what happens when your entire society revolves around telling a certain group how worthless they are.

  146. @Anonymous

    “There are diamonds in India.”

    Not many these days. India was the original production centre, two or three hundred years ago, but was worked out after providing massive stones to rulers all over Asia and Europe.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golconda_Diamonds

  147. Anonymous[179] • Disclaimer says:

    Without a core Anglo-Americanism to assimilate to, what will happen to future America? Granted, mass immigration was bound to fail once non-whites began to arrive in huge numbers. Lots of Germans and Irish came to the US in the 19th century, but they looked like Anglo-Americans, and so they easily assimilated over time. If a nation has purple people and if more purple people arrive, they will easily meld as one people. If the new purple people speak the same language as the existing purple people, it will be most easy. If the new purple people speak a different language, they could join with the existing purple people by learning the established language. When German-Americans spoke English, they were hardly distinguishable from Anglo-Americans.

    But if green, red, pink, and other colored peoples arrive in the purple-people-land, even their efforts to be culturally and linguistically ‘purple’ will not erase the fact that they are different peoples. They could assimilate culturally but not racially. Now, if they are sufficiently small in number, it won’t matter. They can be tolerated as minorities. And being insignificant in power, they will go along with majority dominance(though Jews were the outliers). Or, if they remain small in number, they may gradually racially mix with the purple people. As purple people would be the solid majority, the race-mixing would hardly make a difference. But if non-purple peoples keep arriving en masse without end, a time will come when a crisis point will be reached in terms of national identity.

    In the three decades after 1965, all non-white immigrant groups had one thing in common. They knew they were coming to a white majority nation steeped in Anglo/European/Western culture. They consciously made that choice and wanted to be part of this Western Civilization. Though they had little or nothing in common with each other, they had one thing in common: Wanting to be American as defined by the Anglo-Western narrative.
    Peoples from Mexico, Pakistan, Philippines, El Salvador, India, Egypt, S. Korea, Burma, Turkey(a semi-white nation), Iran, Lebanon, and etc. had nothing in common with each other. If all such peoples were dropped on a deserted island, they would have a hard time getting along. They would all have different languages, different customs, different norms, different values, different loyalties. They would be bickering with one another right away. But non-white immigrants of various stripes didn’t argue with one another upon landing in the US because they understood and appreciated there was an established Core Culture that one had to assimilate to. It had to do with learning English, obeying American laws, studying US history(with European roots), and taking on habits, attitudes, and outlooks rooted in British Civilization. So, it was the White Glue than the KKKrazy Glue that held them together. A shared appreciation and even admiration of White America, indeed so much so that they chose to permanently depart from their homelands to take on new identities and new national loyalties. They had a sense of a Core America that had been mostly created by white European settlers and immigrants, esp those from Britain.

    But things changed over the years. One reason was within the white community itself. Post-war prosperity led to the tendency of measuring national worth in material terms: America is great for its comfort and prosperity. The affluent society, as if economic success was the main measure of Americanism. The Greatest Generation raised their boomer kids with this mindset. And the boomers grew up with fun-fun-fun and pleasure, and this model stuck. DAZED AND CONFUSED is a fine film, but the Americanism on display is truly pathetic. It’s about dope, beer, partying, driving around, obsession with pop culture, sports, and celebrity. Now, having a good time is not bad, but should it be the defining feature of a national culture? Maybe for teenagers. But when pop culture becomes the main culture, no one really grows up.
    In a way, the fraying of Core Culture happened apart from the rise of Diversity, though Diversity made it much worse. After all, similar things happened in mostly white European nations and Australia(and Canada of course). Swedes lost their sense of core culture BEFORE mass immigration. Social-democracy and affluence made the Swedes see themselves in terms of materialism, social services, ideology, and fashionable attitudes. A sense of historic legacy and heritage was lost. Same with Ireland. Ireland was ‘cucked’ before the massive infusion of foreigners changed entire cities. The new cultural coding eroded the sense of the Core.

    Now, it’s possible for a nation to become deracinated and cucked and still remain mostly white. Iceland for example. But the loss of core identity renders such a nation far more vulnerable to globalists who want to flood it with Diversity. Lacking a strong sense of core, the native whites are less likely to resist and say NO. Worse, if the whites are not only deracinated but infused with fanatical faith in the wonders of Diversity(and disdain for skepticism for Diversity as ‘racism’, the worst of all sins), they will not only lack resistance to Diversity but welcome it, much like the Swedes and Irish have done in recent yrs with no regard to their national legacy. But when one’s ‘new main culture’ is pop music, hollywood, black sports, rap, and globo-homo, why would they want to defend something so ‘lame’ and ‘boring’ like one’s native culture that lacks ‘swagger’?

    Japan is an interesting case to watch. It is still mostly Japanese but culturally it’s anemic, soulless, and cucked. It’s gone globo-homo and even globo-afro in soul. And it’s embracing mass immigration with hardly any resistance from the people.

    One is tempted to believe that White Americanness lost its sense of core identity because of its ethnic diversity. Anglo-Americans had to water down Americanism to accommodate white ethnics, and white ethnics had to surrender much that was rich and deep in their own culture to become ‘American’. But maybe that was not the decisive factor. After all, Sweden was totally Swedish and Ireland was totally Irish when they got cucked and deracinated. And UK didn’t need to water down its Britishness when it was mostly white British. And yet, UK decided to, much like the US. And Canada and Australia were far more overwhelmingly Anglo than the US, but Anglos there grew just as cucked and deracinated if not more so. Maybe something about the materialism and individualism of modernity undermines one’s sense of culture. Modernists explain the world in terms of conformism vs non-conformism. Supposedly, conservatism is conformist, whereas modern liberalism allows freedom and non-conformism. And yet, human nature is essentially conformist all around, and the real division is between conformism-to-this vs conformism-to-that. What goes by the label of ‘non-conformism’ is really conformism to fashion. The main conservative/liberal divide is preference for conformism to tradition vs conformism to fashion. Look at the globo-homo crowd, and they are all a bunch of sheeple who spout the same mantras. And liberals, far from being tolerant, try to force all to bow down to globo-homo around the world.

    Anyway, with the fraying of Core America rooted in White History, what are new immigrant groups supposed to assimilate to? Multi-culturalists may say the rejection of Core America means that the New America is more democratic in acknowledging all cultures as equally American. But this is absurd. As Americans have come from every nation on Earth, there is no way we can learn about every culture and language as ‘essentially American’. One may rhetorically argue that Burmese-Americanism is just as American as any other kind of Americanism, but how many non-Burmese-Americans care to know about Burma, its history or language or culture? And what essential role did Burmese culture play in the founding and building of America? After all, if not a single Burmese had come to the US, the US would still be 99.99% what it is. But if Anglos had never come to the New World, America wouldn’t even exist. So, it’s so evident that there is a Core American History, and some peoples did more to found and create America. This used to be common knowledge, so why is it nearly taboo today? Perhaps to dominant Jewish elite power, Anglo prestige of founding is threatening to the Jewish-centric view of US as a ‘nation of immigrants’. It seems the ONLY way to acknowledge the essential Anglo founding of the US is to pretend, via some hipster Puerto Rican, that the Founding Fathers were a bunch of rapping blacks. The only correct and acceptable way to pay tribute to white history is to pretend the great whites were not white.

    Back in the 70s, non-white immigrants would have come to the US with a positive attitude. They would have known of it as mainly a white nation built by whites. And all such groups would have known that the glue that held them together was an effort at cultural, if not racial, assimilation into American whose core culture was of Western heritage. Whether Mexican, Arab, Hindu, or Asian, they were all trying to assimilate in White Majority America. Without the White Glue, there would have been nothing to bring them together.

    But after four decades, what is the result? We had further fraying of white identity. We had rise of PC that trained generations of white kids and non-white kids to blame it all on whitey. We have endless mantras about Diversity, as if Diversity is what America is about. But in fact, Diversity has been the result of non-whites of various stripes wanting to assimilate into White America. After all, if diversity means non-whiteness, why would non-whites leave their ‘diverse’ lands and come to a white majority nation? It makes no sense. Non-whites didn’t choose Diversity as a goal when they headed to America. They weren’t thinking of Hindus, Turks, Arabs, Asians, or Mexicans when they decided to move to the US. They were thinking of assimilating into white America. THAT was what all non-whites groups had in common. Diversity resulted from various non-white groups preferring to live in a white-majority nation than in their ‘diverse’ non-white or majority non-white one(as in Latin America).

    If White America is no longer the Core America, what is the New America? Multi-culturalism may preach that all cultures are equally American, but as there must be over 200 cultures of 200 national origins in the US, such is meaningless. Each of those cultures may mean something to people within it but it means almost nothing to those outside it. Somalian culture has meaning to Somalis in Ohio and Minnesota, but the fact is most non-Somalians have no interest in it, just like most non-Vietnamese have no interest in Vietnamese culture other than spring rolls. Now, each of those cultures may be interesting and valuable in its own way, but the fact is most Americans don’t care about the various multi-cultures of America. Blacks don’t care about Hinduism, Hindus don’t care about Bolivians, Mexicans aren’t dying to learn Burmese language, Arabs aren’t into Nigerian culture, and etc. Many Arab-Americans can’t speak Arabic and are more into pop culture than Islam. Over time, the various groups come to forget their own cultures as they mean nothing to most Americans, whites or non-whites. How many Arab-Americans are eager to learn about Guatemalan culture? Most Japanese-Americans are totally deracinated. It’s easier for many peoples to join in with One Culture than for them to share each other’s culture. It’s easier for Turks, Arabs, Chinese, Hindus, and Mexicans to culturally assimilate into Anglo-America than for them to share each other’s cultures. It’s difficult enough for immigrant groups to hold onto their own identity and culture; they hardly have time and energy to learn about other cultures. This is why culture has been reduced to ‘restaurants’ in the West. It’s the eats. Even if you know little or nothing about another culture, you can stuff your face with tacos or falafel. Or, culture has been reduced to grievance studies, i.e. being of such-and-such culture is about victimhood under evil whitey. That way, one can forget one’s language, history, and cultural legacy but still had an identity as a ‘victim’. It’s an identity of negativity.

    Now, not all groups respond the same way to New America. Some groups have stronger identities and loyalties than others. So, even as they reject White America as Core America, they cling to their own identity with some resilience and dogged will. This is esp true of Jews and Hindus. They are not only peoples with ancient roots but blood ideologies. But most peoples, whites included, have much weaker identities. Many don’t even have ancient pedigrees. Some like Chinese have ancient roots but their outlook is more philosophical or family-oriented than racial-tribal as with Jews and Hindus. Arab identities seem to fade pretty fast, which may be why SOME Arabs in the West turn to hardcore Islam to recover some sense of bearing in an alienating world where, unless one has money or fame, one is treated as nothing. People with a sense of core culture has a sense of ‘home’ even without riches. But without core culture, one feels homeless without big money.
    For most peoples with weaker identities, the New America is about Money, Fame, Success. In the past, non-whites might have seen a show like THE WALTONS which is about a struggling white family. The characters didn’t have fame or fortune, but they embodied something like Core America and its values that gave meaning to their lives. But an American without cultural roots has become a place where it’s sink or swim. Only those with money or fame matter. Otherwise, you’re a ‘loser’. Something like RAISIN IN THE SUN now seems quaint as even ghetto blacks pretend they are millionaire rappers driving around in limos and surrounded by ho’s. What does Armenian identity matter to someone like Kim Kardashian who’s all about being a groupie to super-rich rappers and the like? Her vulgar narcissism is the model for millions of American girls of all races.

    With the loss of Core White Culture as the main assimilationist material and with the fading of cultures-of-origin among the immigrants & their kids, the only Americanism left is pop culture, mania for sports, money madness, fashion, and PC. As pop culture is mostly about superhero comic movies, black rappers & athletes, homo fashion, and universal narcissism — “muh instagram” — , THAT is what defines the cultural sense of so many Americans. And Canadians. So, all these New Canadians are now so proud to be ‘Canadian’ because a bunch of over-paid black sports mercenaries won a trophy in basketball. That is what Canadian-ness is about. A whole bunch of non-white immigrants in Canada pretending they got ‘swagger’ because ‘our blacks’ beat ‘their blacks’. For those who are more ‘spiritually’ inclined, what is the great messianic rapture of US and Canada? Worship of Sodomy and Globo-Homo. Fly the ‘gay’ flag in every church. Everything from the national cathedral in DC from Pentagon & military-industrial complex is into celebrating holy homo as if the US is especially blessed because it’s most crazy about spreading the homo-glow around the world.

  148. @Charles Pewitt

    Thomas Sowell is just as much of a Black Boob as Tennessee Coates.

    LOL. Chuck … down boy!

    Sure, Sowell isn’t an HBD guy. (That’s not his balliwick and indeed the weakness of his oeuvre.) And all people–just look at some of the people commenting here–suddenly have a great deal of difficulty with the whole “objectivity” thing when it’s about their own people. Heck, witness your over the top reaction to Sowell’s “Black Rednecks” thing.

    “Black Rednecks” is–in toto–incorrect. HBD rules. But it’s not ridiculous that there was cultural transfer in the South. (In fact it’s obvious this was the case.)

    But claiming Sowell–a genuine smart guy with a solid body of intelligent work (ex. his “Race and Culture” series)–is anything like the bozo Coates … crazy stuff.

  149. Lot says:
    @Anon

    Yes I think real diamonds are a waste of money.

    CZ = cubic zirconia.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cubic_zirconia

  150. KunioKun says:

    I second Epstein’s articles on diamonds being worthless. They are an enjoyable read.

  151. @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s not at all easy to do regarding the diamond business. Who will be the first generation, no the first man with a hot would-be fiancé, who will UST SAY NO? Don’t even try to use logic, because the woman’s logic will be “the other guys are buying nice rocks, so you must be a real cheap-ass or there’s something wrong with you.”

    If you can’t pass that (shit) test, then either

    a) This isn’t a woman you actually want

    b) You have coming into the marriage having already ceded way too much dominance.

    Women seem to have a strong princessing “look at me!” component which needs to be reigned in for them to make decent wives and mothers. Social media has made it worse. Your job should be to crush it, not humor it.

    I don’t want to go book length, but a few quickly without argument:
    — You–the guy–must naturally be dominant or the marriage isn’t going to work.
    — She is selling a declining asset (her looks and fertility), you are offering an appreciationg asset (your career earnings)
    — Women are the ones who really *need* the marriage. Less so economically than before to survive. But in terms of relationships–yes. Women–collectively and individually have damaged their bargaining position by slutting it up. No man should marry a slut, and men no longer have to marry to engage in sex.
    — You–a marriageable and willing to get married–guy are the scarce asset, not her.

    I’d think the diamond request is easy to bat away along a few different lines:
    — A diamond is nothing, adds nothing, to sexy, beautiful you.
    — A diamond is a ridiculously expensive useless rock that does nothing. To me this marriage is about the two of us building a family together. I want all the assets we accumulate to stay in our family for our children. Not be siphoned off by a bunch of foreign parasites.
    — Diamonds for engagement is not any sort of long tradition for our Western/Christian people. It’s a phony tradition, ginned up by scummy foreign merchants to sell their useless product, that they sold with Hollyweird marketing.

    and (throwing a bit of PC goodthink back at her)
    — Diamonds are a sleazy business of crooks who profit off black miners basically kept as slaves working in horrid conditions. I’ll have no part in supporting it!

    If the woman doesn’t come around … pull the pin:

    “Honey, i love you but maybe you’re not the one for me. Marriage isn’t about you, or me. Marriage is about the family we build together–our children. If you’re an “it’s all about me” girl who wants to spend our family’s money so you can have a useless rock on your finger to wave in front of your girlfriends … then you do not have the same understanding of marriage, of family, that i do.”

    If she comes back–peachy. If she doesn’t–or remains pissy about it–cut her lose and move on. You’ve dodged a bullet.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  152. @Svigor

    I stumbled on this tweet today about a new Netflix India show on a dystopian Hindu future – it’s seems to be a sort of Indian ‘Handmaid’s Tale’. The comments are awesome, as the Hindus are going mental about Netflix’s anti-Hindu propaganda. This is further grist to the mill that Netflix is history’s greatest ever psyops, and the Jews are already on the case, five steps ahead of us all, as usual. https://twitter.com/NetflixIndia/status/1139427250829443072?s=19

  153. donut says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    I wondered what became of Spicoli .

  154. @Anonymous

    If incels were REALLY a threat to the most powerful air force on earth, they probably wouldn’t be incels. Instead it’s just kicking a man when he’s down, all on the taxpayer dollar.

    Just think, the US Air Force is paying some social science grad to surf the web and produce this crap – and then people are made to watch it. Perhaps the money should go towards ensuring people chucked out for criminal acts have their fingerprints sent to the FBI as per procedure, so they can’t shoot 48 churchgoers.

    https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/12/07/air-force-failed-four-times-to-prevent-last-years-texas-church-shooting-dod-ig-now-reviewing-other-services/

    “On Nov. 5, 2017, former airman Devin Kelley shot and killed 26 people and wounded 22 others at the First Baptist Church of Sutherland Springs, Texas. After being shot by citizen responders, Kelley fled from the church in his vehicle and later died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

    Kelley was able to purchase a firearm from a federally licensed dealer even though he had a disqualifying conviction.

    Kelley, who enlisted in 2010, served as a logistical readiness airman at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico. In 2014, he was discharged from the Air Force after being convicted of assault. Because of that conviction, the Air Force should have sent his fingerprints and final disposition report to the FBI Criminal Justice Information Services Division.

    “If Kelley’s fingerprints were submitted to the FBI, he would have been prohibited from purchasing a firearm from a licensed firearms dealer,” DoD IG officials said in their 131-page report.”

  155. @StripsOfRed

    non dot Indian proles can look forward to a future like the blacks of Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania where these Indians are the overlords and have their leaders in their pockets

    The blacks of Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania have an average I.Q. of 70. The whites of the U.S. have an average I.Q. of 100. Your analogy breaks down there.

    • Replies: @Anon
  156. Ed says:

    I don’t begrudge these people. It’s Western Europeans that insist that people born in their lands are Belgian, English or French even though all their roots are outside of the country.

    • Replies: @GermanReader2
  157. songbird says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    I don’t think he likes Irish people either. Said something like they were good at becoming politicians – a backhanded complement, if I have ever heard one.

    But as much as he is a race-denier, he deserves appreciation for saying diversity is bad. Also, smarter than Coates.

  158. Ed says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    A young white father that works for a company that does business with my company mentioned that every time he’s been to India he’s gotten sick. The last time requiring nearly a month hospitalization in the US. He goes there for Christian missionary stuff. I asked if he’d go again and he said his wife said, no more.

    Everyone that I’ve known that has gone to India has said it was filthy and they wouldn’t go back willingly.

    • Replies: @Ibound1
    , @Desiderius
  159. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ray Huffman

    How has that IQ helped whites against being totally TOTALLY dominated by a small tribe? You think IQ is all that matters? Your IQ won’t work against a people who are cohesive, determined, cunning and deceitful. They always WIN in the end. Case in point is the complete dominance of Jews in America. These dot Indian folks are somewhat like them

    Mere IQ without cohesion and far sighted-ness stands no chance against a tribal mindset with loads of cash to boot.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  160. Ibound1 says:
    @Ed

    I go for business. It’s filthy – even disgusting. But over the last 20 years it has improved just slightly. Seriously. Just a bit. San Francisco and Paris on the other hand have gotten far dirtier.

  161. Anon[347] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Have you ever been to India? If not please do (even if that makes you sick for a month afterwards; it’ll be a learning experience)

    It’s a dog eat dog, cloistered place with men are like mice or worse, trying to con and outdo each other and get rich and wealthy at the expense of others. If you were to be a prosperous clan surrounded by this, would you really give two hoots about the society around you? Add to that the Hindu belief system which talks about the place of people in their lives and has nothing like the Christian or the Islamic concept of salvation and compulsory service to the poor and the needy; you easily get to justify all the human suffering around you as being “karma” and all that.

    So Jains or any other super rich mercantile caste/clan in India would never engage in philanthropy and human service. The ONLY Indian group who does that, IMHO are the sihks and their belief system is quite close to the Muslims. Traditional Hindu society was never big on that (how could it? It had the caste system going on for millenia, maintaining generation after generation of barely surviving humans without doing a thing for their betterment)

    To expect them to do beyond their caste/clan would be a long shot.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  162. @Ed

    I got really sick in Fiji in the 90s. Always assumed it was from playing rugby with the Fijians up in the mountains after a storm in a field that turned out to be full of manure. May have been from the Indian food in the city.

  163. @Anon

    Jews (alone) aren’t dominating you. Those high IQ whites are. Their IQ works so well for them you don’t even know they are there.

    Probably not good for the Jews to keep helping them while being left holding the bag.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Sam J.
    , @Anon
  164. @Anonymous

    Iraq…..Afghanistan…..Syria…….BRING THE TROOPS HOME!!!!!

  165. @Anonymous

    (1) moral/spiritual support is real, and essential for the human species to thrive, especially during tough times. Family members who’ve been through similar times do best here, sometimes just by being there.

    (2) a large extended family has a lot of different kinds (class, region, faith, even political preference) of people to practice understanding/getting along with.

    (3) material support/advice/connections doesn’t hurt either. When I was at my wits end employment wise I worked at my uncle’s car dealership and mde good money and was a hit socially in his midsized town. Got me back on my feet.

    Those are off the top of my head.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  166. @AnotherDad

    When I was dating, for some reason I was exceptionally popular with married women. The bigger the rock, the more brazen. No, it never went anywhere. It was kind of sad actually.

    My wife got a vintage jewelry piece that she loved for a wedding ring. No diamonds, $270 I think. I teased her that it looked like a mood ring.

    If you’re buying a big rock everything you think you know about sexual relations is almost excetly backwards.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  167. @Anon

    Actually, there are some Indian diamond merchants in Tel Aviv now.

  168. guest says:
    @Dr Van Nostrand

    Ever read Scott Fitzgerald’s A Diamond as Big as the Ritz? It features a descendant of George Washington relocating his slaves to Montana and discovering an entire mountain of pure diamond. Which immediately transformed him into the richest man in the world. Yet if the size of his claim should become known, prices would plummet. So he keeps it a secret.

    His property remains the only unsurveyed. He reads a fake proclamation from Nathan Bedford Forrest to his slaves stating that the Confederacy won the Civil War. Diamond sales are made in small quantities through intermediaries. No visitor is allowed to leave alive. They shoot down aircraft who happen to pass overhead.

    It comes off as wild fantasy, but maybe it was just an accurate description of the industry.

  169. Anon[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Those high IQ whites sure are doing a great service to white ethnic interests! Massive non white immigration, both legal and illegal, massive outsourcing of jobs and bringing in ‘talent’ to replace whites, a whole lot of wholesome wars that will kill off many white men (and hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians in those countries), a media blackout about black crimes, allow lotsa drug peddling hombres that will eventually wreck the poorer whites!!!

    Boy those high IQ whites must be something (that is widely sado-masochistic) to encourage these welcoming developments to make the life of whites that much more easier!

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  170. @Buzz Mohawk

    American diamonds tend to come from Arkansas. Few people’s first choice for most trustworthy of states.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  171. Anon[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    I would love LOVE to see hordes of Indian computer ‘geniuses’ moving in to Tel Aviv by the hundreds of thousands to do jobs “those Hebrews wouldn’t do”!

    More “skilled” LEGAL immigration to Israel NOW!!!

  172. @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t they have a state park there where you can dig your own?

    Anyway, cutters and dealers use GIA and AGS for diamonds from all over the world. The reports are thorough, and they include diagrams with all the flaws drawn in and described.

    GIA is in Carlsbad, California. AGS is in Las Vegas (whatever one might think of that!)

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  173. @istevefan

    As for the Indians having an easy time leaving because it’s not home, I gather that you expect the coming Muslim rulers of Belgium to expel the Indians?

  174. @Stan d Mute

    True, but if you are going to give one to your lady, you might as well know how good it really is. Quality does make a difference. A good one will send bright flashes of light across a swimming pool on a sunny day.

    I first noticed my wife’s engagement ring doing just that at a party the day after I gave it to her. One of her snobbish friends there said to her, “Let me take your diamond to my friend so-and-so to find out if it’s real. He’s a diamond cutter.” My wife truly enjoyed turning to the rich lady and saying, “My fiancé bought it from so-and-so.”

    So-and-so was a diamond cutter across the street from my office. I found out about him when a client walked in and showed me the $60,000 ring he had just made for her. $90,000 in today’s dollars. It had a rectangular rock that looked big enough to suck on like a hard candy, cut by so-and-so.

    As I’ve mentioned here before, so-and-so was shot to death in his office a few years later. He buzzed in a guy who had been pretending to negotiate for a diamond.

  175. @Anon

    I get the sarcastic tone, but your account is entirely accurate. They’re (functionally) white supremacists in that they believe that intra-white competition is all that matters. They’re kicking your ass because for some reason you thought they’d care about you and yours.

    Think again, sucka!

  176. JohnnyD says:

    Being more clannish than Orthodox Jews is quite an accomplishment!

  177. Indian people suddenly seem to be running lots of liquor stores here in my neck of the woods. It’s getting to be like Greeks and diners.

  178. Mr. Anon says:

    An Immigrant’s Manifesto by Suketu Mehta, the scion of an Indian diamond merchant clan, diamond merchants are about the last who ought to lecture white Americans on their failures of inclusion and diversity.

    From the point of view of the receiving nation, diamond merchant is pretty far down the list of desirable trades for an immigrant. Do we really need these people here?

    …………….as dawned on me while having the diamond ring appraised to make sure the retailer hadn’t cheated me.

    You know how to tell when a diamond merchant is cheating you?

    When he’s a diamond merchant…………………..selling you a diamond.

    Diamonds have little real intrinsic value.

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  179. @Mr. Anon

    Only a mentally retarded person would buy a diamond for intrinsic value. Since mentally retarded people generally can’t afford diamonds, there is no problem.

    Yes, it is a monopoly, or cartel, or whatever, with controlled prices. But if you want a diamond, where else are you gonna go?

    Your answer, pre-written here for you: Who needs a diamond?/Why do you want a diamond?/You should not want a diamond, etc.

    My response: Who needs to go to a fine restaurant?/to go to the theater?/to buy a painting?/to go to a concert?/to drink really good bourbon?/skiing?/to play golf at Pebble Beach?/ad infinitum. What is life for?

    There are lots of things to enjoy that we don’t need that we pay too much for — and there are plenty of high-priced items that are not intrinsically worth what people pay for them. Luxury brands, for example, cultivate exclusivity, limit availability, and deliberately set outrageous prices. Lack of intrinsic value is almost the whole point.

    Purchases of such things are personal decisions to spend money you will never get back for something you will enjoy. A diamond is not an investment. The purchase of one is irrational. Mea culpa.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  180. Sam J. says:
    @Charles Pewitt

    “…Remember, Thomas Sowell viciously attacked the Scotch-Irish people by suggesting that Black criminality and Black violence were learned behaviours that the Black slaves on plantations aped from their Scotch-Irish plantation overseers…”

    True. After he said that I never read a single word he wrote afterwards.

    • Replies: @jim jones
  181. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Thank you

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  182. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Purchases of such things are personal decisions to spend money you will never get back for something you will enjoy. A diamond is not an investment. The purchase of one is irrational. Mea culpa.

    So do you recommend we buy diamonds for our fiances?

    • Replies: @Buzz Mohawk
  183. Anonymous[300] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    The bigger the rock, the more brazen. No, it never went anywhere. It was kind of sad actually.

    Why didn’t it go anywhere?

    If you’re buying a big rock everything you think you know about sexual relations is almost excetly backwards.

    Not so. A new, expensive diamond signals to the woman you are with (and to other women) that you have resources, abundance.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  184. Sam J. says:
    @Desiderius

    “…Jews (alone) aren’t dominating you. Those high IQ whites are. Their IQ works so well for them you don’t even know they are there…”

    I’ve noticed this as a probable new Hasbara line the Jews have thought up to lead Whites astray from the reality that the Jews are the problem. Now, they say, it’s some unidentified something or other.

    • LOL: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  185. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    *Every single day* I get plagued by Indian phone scammers impersonating British Telecom engineering staff – I’m not even a BT subscriber. An obvious fraud with some cock and bull story about ‘your computer being compromised’. Every day without fail. Sometimes two times a day. Generally I just blow an extremely loud whistle down the receiver at the first hint of a subcon accent then slam down the phone. Many Britons have been conned big time. No doubt the subcons think ‘whitey deserves it’. There must be giant office blocks filled with subcons phoning *every single landline phone in Britain* at least once a day.

    The worst thing about is that BT – whose name is bring besmirched – aren’t doing a damned thing about.

    I suggest cutting off India from the world telephone network.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    , @Anonymous
  186. Most people do not thrive on a vegetarian diet, and the Jain diet is even more restrictive than that. I guarantee you that they are hogging down the meat in private, and their private cooks know aaaall about it.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
  187. @Buzz Mohawk

    “Don’t they have a state park there where you can dig your own?”

    Crater Of Diamonds. A diamond from there was worn by Hillary at Bill’s inauguration IIRC.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crater_of_Diamonds_State_Park

    A good diamond book to read in conjunction with Epstein’s is “Barren Lands: An Epic Search for Diamonds in the North American Arctic” by Kevin Krajick, $15 new, less secondhand. Alongside a true tale (in which de Beers is always a looming threat) of two rockhounds seeking a fortune, there’s a lot of diamond history.

    Epstein theorises that de Beers may have deliberately sabotaged the Crater Of Diamonds mine, in which case it sounds like a neat place to take your RV and spend a week fossicking.

    PS – de Beers is still pretty much persona non grata in the US because of

    a) the way they tried to stiff the US over the supply of industrial stones in WW2
    b) the way in which Germany still somehow got its supplies of industrial diamonds from Congolese mines supposedly controlled by de Beers.

  188. @Ed

    It’s not the Western Europeans but rather their elites that insist upon it. The average citizen is against it.

  189. jim jones says:
    @Sam J.

    Scotch is a drink, how can you read anything from someone who does not know that the proper word is “Scots”?

  190. @Dave from Oz

    Most people do not thrive on a vegetarian diet, and the Jain diet is even more restrictive than that. I guarantee you that they are hogging down the meat in private, and their private cooks know aaaall about it.

    Unless you mean that humorously, no. Tens of millions of Indians are vegetarians, with cuisines developed over a long period of time. They seem to get by. They’re not all six-foot-tall Aussies, but at least some are physically well developed enough to put pressure on Aussie teams in cricket matches.

  191. @Anonymous

    You’re welcome.

    The seven siblings on my father’s side promised their mother that they and their families would continue to get together for one week a year after she joined the Church Triumphant.

    Not coincidentally, they’re all still alive and faithfully keeping their promise. Now over a hundred souls benefit from their fidelity.

  192. @Sam J.

    It’s not hasbara, it’s your local school board, dipshit.

  193. @Anonymous

    Why didn’t it go anywhere?

    Because adultery is wrong. Why do spergs try to make things so complicated?

    Not so. A new, expensive diamond signals to the woman you are with (and to other women) that you have resources, abundance.

    Thats nice. Abundance without dominance just makes you a good mark. A good marketer always understands scarcity and thus what is most in demand. It ain’t chumps blowing cash on diamonds.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Corvinus
  194. Anonymous[189] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Abundance without dominance just makes you a good mark. A good marketer always understands scarcity and thus what is most in demand. It ain’t chumps blowing cash on diamonds.

    To be dominant, it is necessary to have abundance.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  195. aerdfs says:

    Within 20 years diamond mining (and with it trading in Antwerp) will come to an end. De Beers started Lighthouse, a laboratory diamond jewelry brand. The gate is now open to widespread acceptance of lab diamonds. At the same time there’s growing disgust for the effects of diamond mining in Africa. Stories like: Meghan Markle Wears Lab-Grown, Ethical Diamonds will really move the process in this direction.

  196. @Anonymous

    Trouble is that BT outsource a lot of support to India = which is doubtless why the scammers have your phone number.

    Back on topic, that Epstein book details whan Israeli companies took on de Beers – and lost, because de Beers set the banks on them (in the 60/70s they got the ex-MI5 chief to organise ambushes of African diamond smugglers and shoot them, but I guess such methods were out of bounds outside Africa – perhaps).

    http://edwardjayepstein.com/diamond/chap16.htm

    De Beers estimated the Israeli stockpile to be more than 6 million carats in 1977 and growing at a rate of almost a half million carats a month. At that rate, it would be only a matter of months before the Israeli stockpile would exceed that of the cartel’s in London. If Israel controlled such an enormous quantity of diamonds, the cartel could no longer fix the price of diamonds with impunity. At any time the Israelis could pour these diamonds onto the world market, destroying forever the carefully nurtured mystique of the value of diamonds. The cartel decided that they had no alternative but to force liquidation of the Israeli stockpile.

    By 1977, however, the situation in Israel was almost completely out of De Beers’ control. The Goldfinger organization, and other of De Beers’ leading distributors in Israel, told De Beers that even if they cut back on their purchases, independent dealers and speculators would step in to take up the slack. The distributors warned the cartel that as long as the banks were willing to finance diamond purchases with artificially low interest rates, there would be no effective way of stopping Israelis from accumulating diamonds as a hedge against inflation. If it wanted to bring the diamond speculation under control, De Beers would have to clamp down on the banks.

    De Beers was not without influence in Israeli banking circles. Harry Oppenheimer sat on the board of directors of Barclays International Bank, which controlled Barclays Discount Bank in Israel. And E. J. G. Dawes, one of the managing directors of the De Beers operation in London, was on the board of directors of the Union Bank of Israel, which together with Barclays Discount Bank financed more than half of all the Israeli diamond purchases. De Beers made it clear to the Israeli bankers that it considered the present speculation to be extremely dangerous. Moreover, it warned that it was adopting a new strategy of imposing “surcharges” on diamonds, which might be abruptly withdrawn at any moment. Since these “surcharges,” which would range as high as 40 percent of the value of the diamonds, were effectively a temporary price increase, they could be extremely risky to banks extending credit to diamond dealers. For example, with a 40 percent surcharge, a diamond dealer had to pay $1,400 rather than $1,000 for a small lot of diamonds; however, if the surcharge was then withdrawn, the diamonds would be worth only a thousand dollars. Through this device, De Beers, in effect, announced that it was embarking on a policy of manipulating the prices of diamonds in order to trap speculators. Under these circumstances, the Israeli banks could not afford to advance 80 percent of the purchase price, including the so-called surcharge. They therefore required additional collateral from the dealers and speculators. Further, they began, under pressure from De Beers, to raise interest rates on outstanding loans.

    Within a matter of weeks in 1977, interest rates on diamonds went up 50th percent. Moreover, instead of lending money based on what Israeli dealers paid for diamonds, the banks now would only lend money based on the official De Beers price for diamonds. If a dealer paid more than the De Beers price for diamonds-and most Israeli dealers were paying at least double the price in 1977-he would have to finance the increment from his personal funds.

    To tighten the squeeze on Israel, De Beers abruptly cut off shipments of diamonds to forty of its clients who had been selling large portions of their consignments to Israeli dealers. This dramatic reprisal made De Beers’ 250 or so remaining clients aware of the risks involved in trafficking with Israel.

    As Israeli dealers found it increasingly difficult either to buy or finance diamonds, they were forced to sell diamonds from the stockpiles that they had accumulated. As Israeli diamonds poured onto the market in 1979, prices began to fall at the wholesale level. This decline led the Israeli banks to put further pressure on dealers to liquidate their stocks to repay their loans. Speculators found themselves caught between rising financing charges and lower prices, and in a state approaching panic, began selling their diamonds regardless of the price they had paid. Hundreds of Israeli dealers, unable to meet their commitments, went bankrupt in the fall of 1980 as prices continued to plunge. The banks inherited the diamonds. De Beers had won the first round in the diamond war with Israel.

  197. Anon[106] • Disclaimer says:
    @jimmyriddle

    Why? As immigrants go, these are pretty harmless.

    No immigrants that are as different as are they are harmless. The only groups that should mix in Western Europe are Western European haplogroups, which are diverse enough to allow for a high degree of natural selection for many millenia to come.

    The fake and gay nation of Belgium should stick to worrying about the North African and Congolese underclass.

    No Western nation will ever be successful at excluding one group without excluding them all. Minorities understand this as the root of intersectionalism 101.

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  198. aerdfs says:
    @JimB

    ZHENGZHOU/BRUSSELS, Feb. 6 (Xinhua) — A diamond is forever but its chemical composition is just carbon, the fourth most abundant element in the universe.

    Before being cut and polished to what may cost over 2,000 U.S. dollars per carat — one-fifth of a gram, or the weight of two grains of rice, diamonds have traditionally been mined from earth where they were forged in extreme pressure and heat over millennia.

    But companies in China and elsewhere have mastered the technologies to manufacture them en masse in a matter of weeks or days, with the products practically indistinguishable from those mined from earth.

    China, long a major consumer of mined diamonds, now has a realistic chance to become a supplier of man-made ones and shape the industry, analysts said, but the scenario for substitution — when consumers become indifferent to provenance — is far from certain and depends on public perception.

    http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2019-02/06/c_137802928.htm

  199. Anon[929] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Jews (alone) aren’t dominating you. Those high IQ whites are. Their IQ works so well for them you don’t even know they are there.

    Probably not good for the Jews to keep helping them while being left holding the bag.

    What a tired narrative. I know the power structure intimately. It also helps to know history. The Jewish group is not a puppet.

    They may not be the only player strictly speaking, but to state that they are merely a tool is laughable and insulting to our intelligence. The Jewish political group is an apex predator, which acts largely independently (as much as any nation) and out of pure self interest. They should be approached as such. Anything else affords them yet another advantage.

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  200. Mike1 says:

    These are diamond traders not diamond producers. You are literally too dumb to come up with a credible insult.

    As I said, the problem is in the mirror.

  201. Corvinus says:
    @Desiderius

    “Because adultery is wrong.”

    Not according to the manospherists. Would you agree that they are spergs?

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  202. @Anonymous

    Only if it pleases you (and her) and doesn’t ruin your financial plans. It certainly is not necessary. Plenty of men don’t now.

  203. @Anonymous

    Yes, an abundance of confidence.

  204. @Anon

    I didn’t say they’re a puppet. I said they’ve allowed themselves to accrue a dangerous amount of exposure in pursuit of an objective of doubtful value.

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  205. George says:
    @Coburn

    Now the curiosity is, assuming it is true, why are Jews being replaced by Jains? (Do Dutch Jews chant Jains will not replace us?)

    1) Diamonds are now an obsolete form of money laundering. Bitcoin as you said, Airport body scanners, super duper luggage scanners, ect. I read that an American Cathode ray tube TV factory was shipped to Mexico so squeeze the last bit of juice from that market. There were complaints about shipping jobs to Mexico, but the factory was probably scrapped within a decade. So Jews are passing their dying profession to South Asians.

    2) Jews like all westerners have gone soft and lazy.

    3)Jews, unlike Jains, have a state now so they spend all their time trying to gain privileges in Israel.

  206. Anonymous[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    Yes, this is a plague. I know a woman who got stung by these people. She was recently-widowed and so was lonely, confused and having problems with her computer. She was cold-called by one of these people, and before I realized what was going on, they had got a hundred pounds off her for “technical support”. (Of course, they didn’t even fix the problem.)

  207. Anon[195] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    You mean AIPAC has been lousy at it’s job? Are our boys not dying out at a good enough rate to “defend” the “interests” of our “bestest” ally in the middle east??

    Or has SPLC or ADL been lacking somewhere??

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  208. @Daniel H

    At least they won’t be able to say, “Hello fellow white people.”

  209. Loved this article. It’s a good inside view into some (most?) Indian families who live abroad but continue to be intensely clannish and indoctrinate their children in the same ways. As mentioned in a comment on another post on a similar topic — this clannishness also can be attributed in part to Indians being part of a collectivist society as opposed to having an individualistic perspective. Collectivist societies by nature don’t “integrate” well.

    https://www.verywellmind.com/what-are-collectivistic-cultures-2794962

    Furthering Steve’s point, I speculate that one of the reasons why Indians are so abysmal at building systems, has its roots in this collectivist culture. A truly strong, well-functioning collective society need not rely too heavily on external guardrails like police, judicial systems, and whatnot, for crimes against society… because the cost of being a social outcast, and not just you as an individual but your entire family ostracized, is often far harsher punishment that jail time or fines.

    Furthermore, the clan would want to preserve its knowledge of its particular trade and protect itself from outside usurpers and hence there is very little codification of knowledge and systems — whatever exists is apprenticed, and trained into only the most loyal of employees, or the progeny of the business-head / patriarch.

    When you start to step back and see it as a system, objectively without clouding it (tho it’s hard to be aware of one’s self-bias) with personal opinions on the entire Indian race extrapolated from anecdotal interactions with a few Indians that one has come in contact with since, what, 1960s? (The indus civilization does go back 7000 years with lots of twists and turns) When one is able to do that, then sometimes it’s easier to see how all of these behaviors reinforce each other.

    It’s neither good nor bad… it worked for Indian civilization for thousands of years (India’s contribution to world GDP was 25% in 1700s and dropped significantly, down to 4% around 1950 just post-independence… we can speculate on causes, but I suspect it was driven by multiple factors, including a slow decline and self-complacency, multiple invasions by mughals and then the british, the industrial revolution and the wealth shifting from many-peopled civilizations like China and India, to fewer-peopled-higher-productivity societies like in the west). Now all that remain in India is clannish residue, with few of the other reinforcing factors that ensured the overall society was not just clannish but also peaceful and prosperous.

    As for scion of the diamond-merchant… oh lord. He’s as much a scion as is the poor cis-gendered white man you sit next to on the bus is a privileged white persona-non-grata who must spend his entire life in self-hatred and loathing to atone for the sins of his slave-owning forefathers.

    Ad hominem.

    Sanjoy says such stupid things on his own we don’t really need to bother attacking the idea of him. His words provide enough to pick apart.

  210. @Olorin

    Maybe you notice that they’ve targeted Protestant-majority or -led nations and cities.

    The rainbow flag is just another take on the plain white one. And it flies from many Protestant churches. They see it as a fulfillment of the Reformation.

    And they’re right about that.

    Ever notice how little discussion there is of the Catlicks involved in Hart-Celler?

    Hart and Kennedy were Micks. Basically green Jews. Germans, Italians, Poles, etc. have been less enthused about immigration. And were running independent schools decades before Protestants.

  211. @Anon

    Of course. Everyone paying attention with two brain cells to rub together recognizes that they’re a farce, and worse that they’re a farce in public. Hence growing anti-semitism among the masses and attenuating philosemitism among the influential.

    Israel is irrelevant or even an ameliorating factor. It’s American Jews with their heads up their asses for all to see.

    Bad for the Jews.

  212. @Anon

    Van Nostrand was complaining about Jains *not* mixing.

    Well, that’s a feature, not a bug. As Weihan would say: I am allow.

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