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From the Journal of Urban Economics
Black Lives Matter’s effect on police lethal use of force
by Travis Campbell
14 September 2023
The Ferguson Effect of the first BLM era (peaked in 2015-16) was more localized than the Floyd Effect of 2020-?. According to @cremieuxrecueil, Southern Oregon U. economist Travis Campbell has guesstimated from local protest patterns that the Ferguson Effect led to 236 fewer subsequent killings by police and 3,280 more homicides by civilians. In other words, the Ferguson Effect led to a 13.9x ratio of lives lost to lives saved.
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Oh hi, Travis Campbell! Nice little academic career you have there. Would be a shame if something were to happen to it…
In all seriousness, though, he's a brave guy and I certainly wish him the best in facing down against the lunatic Woke mobs. He actually cares about saving black lives rather than merely pretending to care about this, after all.
https://marvel-b1-cdn.bc0a.com/f00000000151180/sou.edu/academics/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2023/09/Travis-Campbell-New-Economics-Faculty-Image-at-SOU.pngReplies: @Mr. Peabody
Cynical question, how many of the lives lost were really worth saving?
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I don’t think saving lives was ever one of the goals of the Black Lives Matter movement. Where’d you get that idea?
The goals were to come up with more grievances for the purposes of bringing hate on the White man and to get money and free stuff via extortion and looting. The movement was pretty successful, I gotta say. More murders and crash fatalities are not the concern of BLM.
"I don’t think saving lives was ever one of the goals of the Black Lives Matter movement. Where’d you get that idea?
The goals were to come up with more grievances for the purposes of bringing hate on the White man and to get money and free stuff via extortion and looting. The movement was pretty successful, I gotta say. More murders and crash fatalities are not the concern of BLM."
In the same way that all black protests have nothing to do with changing anything. African-Americans are the richest Africans in the world. It's about power, and getting attention, and just the fun of causing chaos.
300 years from now, blacks will be in exactly the same place they are in today.
I suggest we start with a lower bound of 25%, which is my guesstimate of the fraction of murder victims murdered by strangers. Of the remaining 75%, perhaps half are would-be killers/felons themselves who more or less got what was coming to them. The rest are fairly nonviolent people with the wrong friends, boyfriends, neighbors, etc. I’m a nice guy so I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt–others may disagree. So, my answer is 25%+75%/2= 62.5%.
Exactly. That’s why I wonder why Steve keeps harping on this. Why are white people seemingly so traumatized by black people killing each other?
As I've mentioned a time or three, Mrs. ic1000 likes scanning the Rust Belt City and national versions of NBC News. This puts me much closer to typical American voters than the median iSteve commenter.
Thanks to what NBC (etc.) doesn't and does consider 'fit-to-print,' few Normie-Americans have been exposed to Achmed E. Neuman's observation upthread (currently #4),Notwithstanding what complainers around here seem to think, one of Steve's great services to the Late Republic is to nudge the Overton Window open in reality-based directions.
Steve believes that natural rights really are natural and thus derived from nature which, in essence, means God. Therefore, it's his duty to convert the heathen.
Once you understand that Steve is a modern Yankee missionary, his posts make a lot more sense.Replies: @Director95, @Prester John
Any killing of innocents, whatever group they belong to, saddens me. It's s a horrible thing, and a healthy, functioning society should do what it can to prevent it. It's sad what the US has come to.Replies: @Dr. Krieger
Power laws. Most crimes are committed by a small group of people. Probably most of the 390 who were saved are pretty nasty criminals while probably a majority (or at least a large minority) of the 3300 who were murdered instead did not not deserve that fate. Would be interesting to get a break down.
14-fold is also approximately the ratio between the white overall per-capita rate of homicide victimization and the black rate.
Idea for an academic paper: How Lynching Saves Black Lives – A Retrospective Study.
(Hint: it’s basically the “straight to jail” scene from Parks and Rec, but simplified.)
Who here seems traumatized? Anyway, this isn’t complicated: even if you don’t particularly think Black Lives Matter, their bad behavior has a way of spilling over and harming others who live anywhere near them. Some of those incremental murders are of white people. Also, murder is an indicator for less serious crimes like property crimes, which frequently have white victims. More intensive policing limits this.
That is a terribly politically incorrect question. At various times in history, that question was asked about Jews, Muslims, HIV-AIDS patients, Covid patients, drug addicts etc., Wisdom prevailed, and such questions were banished from analysis.
Enough to care about this. After all, you don’t think that law-abiding blacks get killed by criminal blacks?
Because I care about black lives. As in actually care, not merely pretend to care. This is why I myself support racial profiling in law enforcement: Specifically because I view it as the best way to save black lives.
Why should I be concerned if the so-called Ferguson Effect created more black murders , in the black community? After all white leftist along with their black friends demanded cops be removed from the neighborhoods. Now the same people are complaining the police aren’t doing enough .
I understand more white people have been murdered as well , situational awareness anyone ? I can’t do anything about stupid whites who believe we’re all the same , even though I have tried . It’s a futile argument and I’m called every ist you can think of. No point in trying anymore .
Same old song and dance , my friend .Replies: @Dennis Dale
He can get funded by Bitcoin or Ethereum if the worst comes to pass, I suppose. And he can post his videos on Bitchute. And he can live in a future network state called Bitopia lol.
In all seriousness, though, he’s a brave guy and I certainly wish him the best in facing down against the lunatic Woke mobs. He actually cares about saving black lives rather than merely pretending to care about this, after all.
……In other words ,some people need killin’.
Steve, you have enough of a business background to know how important the right metrics are. To the people whose options matter in our society, the above numbers are meaningless. The key metric is:
Years Trump was president: 4
They would have accepted a lot worse outcome in 2020 to make sure of that and the same is true for 2024. Buckle up!!
Now that he’s been endorsed by Steve Sailer it’s only a matter of days before poor Travis has his own entry on the SPLC’s website. (Steve have you no mercy for your fellow white dudes?)
And the glasses! Pol Pot knew what to do with members of the Glasses Wearing Community.
A not insignificant number of murder victims are murder victims are murderers themselves.
Still, there appears to have been a big increase in 2020 over 2019 in the number of bystanders getting killed or winged.
As well as high profile members of law enforcement being threatened to get murdered or harmed. But somehow that escapes your NOTICING.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/prosecutors-fbi-agents-hunter-biden-investigation-threatened-rcna104932
https://www.cfr.org/blog/violent-far-right-terrorist-threat-american-law-enforcement
But at least far left violent men and women are getting their comeuppance.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/over-300-people-facing-federal-charges-crimes-committed-during-nationwide-demonstrations
OT sorry, but some people here like, de temps en temps, to talk about Art. I’m not so good at opining about society or politics, but once in a while in a weird way, I’m good for talking about Art.
For instance, not so long ago there was a line around here about the Bob Wilson/JoAnne Akalaitis
deal on the Heads, but probably very few of you cavemen ever heard about this……
But in terms of politics and the present thread, ask yourselves, with quite acid-bath seriousness…..
Has anybody ever, EVER in the history of society, said to themselves, “Hey, great! More negroes are moving into my neighborhood! This will make everything better and better! More negroes! What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!”
Has any sane person EVER said that? Ever.
Need more coffee?
https://marvel-b1-cdn.bc0a.com/f00000000151180/sou.edu/academics/wp-content/uploads/sites/14/2023/09/Travis-Campbell-New-Economics-Faculty-Image-at-SOU.pngReplies: @Mr. Peabody
Wow! Olive drab blouse, skinned sides and stacked on top ‘do: the guy is obviously a Nazi.
And the glasses! Pol Pot knew what to do with members of the Glasses Wearing Community.
> [I wonder] why Steve keeps harping on [Black Lives Murdered]. Why are white people seemingly so traumatized by black people killing each other?
As I’ve mentioned a time or three, Mrs. ic1000 likes scanning the Rust Belt City and national versions of NBC News. This puts me much closer to typical American voters than the median iSteve commenter.
Thanks to what NBC (etc.) doesn’t and does consider ‘fit-to-print,’ few Normie-Americans have been exposed to Achmed E. Neuman’s observation upthread (currently #4),
Notwithstanding what complainers around here seem to think, one of Steve’s great services to the Late Republic is to nudge the Overton Window open in reality-based directions.
Because Steve at his core is a 19th century Yankee missionary except that his religion is the Enlightenment as embodied in the Constitution and Declaration of Independence.
Steve believes that natural rights really are natural and thus derived from nature which, in essence, means God. Therefore, it’s his duty to convert the heathen.
Once you understand that Steve is a modern Yankee missionary, his posts make a lot more sense.
If so, then that only makes him (and the entire alt-Right movement) a mirror-image of so-called "Progressives" and their assorted fan clubs in Big Media and High Academia. Both, in their heart of hearts, are what I would call secular Calvinists, and Calvinism-no matter the form it takes (including the secular)-has been with us since Massachusetts Bay Colony and Winthrop's "city on a hill" (quoting the Sermon on The Mount). It remains deeply embedded within the very fabric of this thing of ours and informs both sides of the ideological divide.
Calvinism--American style--is alive and well for good or for ill; and if history is any judge, it has been mostly for the latter.
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Perhaps an obvious comment, but the purpose of ALL black social politics is to gain more space from the constraints of what would be considered normal (white) behavior or social expectations, downstream consequences be damned. Blacks will tolerate an unbelievable amount of dysfunction so long as they feel they are in charge, which is why places like DC routinely elect black politicians to city council and the mayor’s seat that essentially promise to stand against efforts to rein in blacks, like loitering, littering, close down liquor stores or problematic clubs, and more serious crimes.
Cities are already dealing with the consequences of how downtowns have emptied out thanks to riots, lockdowns, and a huge shift to remote work. The emergence of black and white progressive politicians who are still advocating to loosen rules on social behavior is going to ensure a number of cities will watch their tax base hollow out and will require decades to reverse.
Steve, how many people have been killed by George Soros?
Not Soros personally, but via the “Soros effect” of Soros DAs creating a lawlessness.
Shoulda included the car crash numbers, by their own reasoning the reason not to pull blacks over is it leads to police shootings.
For instance, not so long ago there was a line around here about the Bob Wilson/JoAnne Akalaitis
deal on the Heads, but probably very few of you cavemen ever heard about this......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KQjy02eqOk
But in terms of politics and the present thread, ask yourselves, with quite acid-bath seriousness.....
Has anybody ever, EVER in the history of society, said to themselves, "Hey, great! More negroes are moving into my neighborhood! This will make everything better and better! More negroes! What could POSSIBLY go wrong?!"
Has any sane person EVER said that? Ever.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Not Soros personally, but via the "Soros effect" of Soros DAs creating a lawlessness.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar
Says you. You’ll never be able to prove it in court.
71-year-old south Bronx woman just killled in crossfire between two gang members. This is happening all the time now. I remember when “crossfire” was just a TV talk show
The goals were to come up with more grievances for the purposes of bringing hate on the White man and to get money and free stuff via extortion and looting. The movement was pretty successful, I gotta say. More murders and crash fatalities are not the concern of BLM.Replies: @Director95, @Tim, @Reg Cæsar
Newman’s comment is the one thing we all can agree on.
Steve believes that natural rights really are natural and thus derived from nature which, in essence, means God. Therefore, it's his duty to convert the heathen.
Once you understand that Steve is a modern Yankee missionary, his posts make a lot more sense.Replies: @Director95, @Prester John
misplaced and/or foolish altruism is the bane of the White Race.
Oh you’re a f#cking retard, and there’s no sense in talking to f#cking retards.
When was your last Grammy? When was the last time you brought a stripper to the Governors Ball? When was the last time you brought a Harvard chick to the Governors Ball?
Call me, a$$hole. I’d leave my number, but you’re probably in one of those area-codes that nobody really dials.
To be fair, you write like you suffer from (drug induced? congenital?) compulsive ADHD, and so are involuntarily compelled to post dopey, cutesy cringe, and for some reason have chosen a ‘hep cat groovy jive huckster’ persona circa 1971. I’m not sure what the cure for that would be. So far you’re smart to stay anonymous. I would advise “get help”, but if you take my comments to heart, you actually are getting help. You’re welcome.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease
A few years ago the American Medical Association commissioned a report analyzing all the gun homicides and nonfatal shootings that had occurred in Boston over the prior ten years. While the purpose of the report was to determine the types and lethality of different firearms calibers, one tidbit of information was that the victims had an average of 13 prior arrests.
8-10,000 mostly men came in 100 boats out of Tunisia in 1/2 an hour!
Peak Stupidity post here.Replies: @Joe Stalin
I care when whites get blamed by the media for blacks killing blacks, law-abiding or otherwise.
Connected to Steve’s work on the Ferguson and George Floyd effects on traffic deaths, a USA owned today rag for the Hudson Valley (north of NYC) reports on the increase in traffic fatlities in NY State but simply blames it on “the pandemic”. Somehow “the pandemic” caused people to drive more recklessly and to take chances. No reporting or even conjecture on why that unsupported and preposterous statement would be true. Of course as Steve has reported, USA Today can’t mention the obvous truth or delve into the NY State traffic stats to see if there any links to behavior by demographic.
An excerpt from the story:
Why are traffic fatalities increasing in NY?
The move comes as traffic fatalities have ticked up in New York and across the U.S. despite there being fewer vehicles on the road than in the years before the pandemic.
Last year, New York tallied 1,148 traffic fatalities, a 23% increase from 2019. There were another 1,157 fatalities in 2021, according to a study released in June by TRIP, a transportation research group.
Since the start of the pandemic, drivers have been taking greater risks — not wearing seat belts and driving under the influence of alcohol and drugs, safety experts say. Nationally, between 2019 and 2022, there was a 22% increase in alcohol-related fatalities on the road and a 20% increase in deaths of passengers not wearing seatbelts.
https://www.lohud.com/story/news/2023/09/14/ny-high-risk-drivers-new-proposed-rules-what-need-to-know/70843855007/?utm_source=lohud-dailybriefing-strada&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=daily_briefing&utm_term=Content%20List%20-%20Stacking%20-%20optimized&utm_content=pwes-westchester-nletter65
Perhaps that’s part of the explanation for this, Premier: Great Replacement Update / Lampedusa: Literal Camp-of-the-Saints Illegal-Alien Invasion Swamps Italian Isle .
8-10,000 mostly men came in 100 boats out of Tunisia in 1/2 an hour!
Peak Stupidity post here.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1702808979053719561Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson
The goals were to come up with more grievances for the purposes of bringing hate on the White man and to get money and free stuff via extortion and looting. The movement was pretty successful, I gotta say. More murders and crash fatalities are not the concern of BLM.Replies: @Director95, @Tim, @Reg Cæsar
I have to agree with you Achmed E. Newman:
“I don’t think saving lives was ever one of the goals of the Black Lives Matter movement. Where’d you get that idea?
The goals were to come up with more grievances for the purposes of bringing hate on the White man and to get money and free stuff via extortion and looting. The movement was pretty successful, I gotta say. More murders and crash fatalities are not the concern of BLM.”
In the same way that all black protests have nothing to do with changing anything. African-Americans are the richest Africans in the world. It’s about power, and getting attention, and just the fun of causing chaos.
300 years from now, blacks will be in exactly the same place they are in today.
What people are missing is the difference between inter-tribal and intra-tribal deaths. The former are MUCH worse because they offend the whole tribe. Two tribe members getting into a scuffle with each other over a woman or some property or whatever is as old as Cain and Abel and it ain’t no big thing. It is settled internally amongst the tribe and should not concern other tribes. But if another tribe attacks your tribe it is a casus belli.
This is not exclusive to blacks. Not only was this the historic norm, it was the norm in America until quite recently. Whites in the Old South used to behave the same way. The Tulsa Riots were provoked when a black man allegedly assaulted a white woman. I assume that white on white rapes happened from time to time in Tulsa but they never resulted in the entire neighborhood of the rapist being burned down.
Police killings of blacks are seen as inter-tribal (even if the cop is black) and therefore MUCH more serious. So a 14 to 1 ratio seems about right in terms of the relative seriousness of a white cop killing a black vs a black killing a black.
BLM isn’t about saving lives, it’s about bashing white(male) police officers, burning down cities and looting.
Not Soros personally, but via the "Soros effect" of Soros DAs creating a lawlessness.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Reg Cæsar
The Milwaukee DA whose staff let Darrell Brooks loose wasn’t funded by Soros. He was already on the same page. György’s forints could be efficiently directed elsewhere.
The goals were to come up with more grievances for the purposes of bringing hate on the White man and to get money and free stuff via extortion and looting. The movement was pretty successful, I gotta say. More murders and crash fatalities are not the concern of BLM.Replies: @Director95, @Tim, @Reg Cæsar
Nah. The goals were to fund mansions and condos in the Bahamas, Toronto, and Steve’s own Studio City.
https://www.redfin.com/CA/Studio-City/3726-Laurel-Canyon-Blvd-91604/home/5241970
https://nypost.com/2023/05/27/only-33-of-blms-90m-in-donations-helped-charity-foundations/
8-10,000 mostly men came in 100 boats out of Tunisia in 1/2 an hour!
Peak Stupidity post here.Replies: @Joe Stalin
Not holding my breath.
I used to think that, after so many years of this chaos and no hope in sight, anyone still living on the doomed island of Lampedusa must be crazy.
But as my own country, my own city, and even many of the quiet villages I might have thought to retreat to, have filled up with an endless stream of migrants, I have come to understand.
There is no point in running. You can try to keep fleeing from place to place, but it's ultimately pointless. South Africa awaits us all.Replies: @Anonymous
Yeah, that’s what the management was in it for. The movement had those other goals.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1702808979053719561Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson
LMAO sure, let’s see the Tony Blair fan go through with it.
Not holding my breath.
I used to think that, after so many years of this chaos and no hope in sight, anyone still living on the doomed island of Lampedusa must be crazy.
But as my own country, my own city, and even many of the quiet villages I might have thought to retreat to, have filled up with an endless stream of migrants, I have come to understand.
There is no point in running. You can try to keep fleeing from place to place, but it’s ultimately pointless. South Africa awaits us all.
Not holding my breath.
I used to think that, after so many years of this chaos and no hope in sight, anyone still living on the doomed island of Lampedusa must be crazy.
But as my own country, my own city, and even many of the quiet villages I might have thought to retreat to, have filled up with an endless stream of migrants, I have come to understand.
There is no point in running. You can try to keep fleeing from place to place, but it's ultimately pointless. South Africa awaits us all.Replies: @Anonymous
Actually, maybe South Africa isn’t the most fitting choice here.
Sure, like white South Africans we’ll be (best case scenario) exploited, discriminated against and living in fear, but at least South Africa has very few fanatical Muslims. The hell of our own making that Europeans will have to live in is going to be misery on a whole other level.
Nobody’s traumatized.
Any killing of innocents, whatever group they belong to, saddens me. It’s s a horrible thing, and a healthy, functioning society should do what it can to prevent it. It’s sad what the US has come to.
The audacity.
LOL. Bruh, you’re an incorrigible philistine. Your music choices and ‘insider’ name-dropping is random as fuck. You sound like a guest-of-a-guest wowed by (b-list, c-list) names, but evidently you can’t judge art to save your life. Taste: either you got it or you don’t. You don’t. (Don’t feel bad—many such cases.)
To be fair, you write like you suffer from (drug induced? congenital?) compulsive ADHD, and so are involuntarily compelled to post dopey, cutesy cringe, and for some reason have chosen a ‘hep cat groovy jive huckster’ persona circa 1971. I’m not sure what the cure for that would be. So far you’re smart to stay anonymous. I would advise “get help”, but if you take my comments to heart, you actually are getting help. You’re welcome.
There seems to be this guy on the internet who just told me I can't write for sh#t, and then used, in the very same paragraph, the tiresome internet cliche "many such cases".
I just wanna get it all clear. And hey daddy-o, I don't wanna go down to the basement.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
To be fair, you write like you suffer from (drug induced? congenital?) compulsive ADHD, and so are involuntarily compelled to post dopey, cutesy cringe, and for some reason have chosen a ‘hep cat groovy jive huckster’ persona circa 1971. I’m not sure what the cure for that would be. So far you’re smart to stay anonymous. I would advise “get help”, but if you take my comments to heart, you actually are getting help. You’re welcome.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease
Cool.
To be fair, you write like you suffer from (drug induced? congenital?) compulsive ADHD, and so are involuntarily compelled to post dopey, cutesy cringe, and for some reason have chosen a ‘hep cat groovy jive huckster’ persona circa 1971. I’m not sure what the cure for that would be. So far you’re smart to stay anonymous. I would advise “get help”, but if you take my comments to heart, you actually are getting help. You’re welcome.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @The Germ Theory of Disease
Okay. Just so I got this straight….
There seems to be this guy on the internet who just told me I can’t write for sh#t, and then used, in the very same paragraph, the tiresome internet cliche “many such cases”.
I just wanna get it all clear. And hey daddy-o, I don’t wanna go down to the basement.
There seems to be this guy on the internet who just told me I can't write for sh#t, and then used, in the very same paragraph, the tiresome internet cliche "many such cases".
I just wanna get it all clear. And hey daddy-o, I don't wanna go down to the basement.Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
“Many such cases” is a phrase made classic by Trump (You didn’t know that? SAD!) and is quite useful in describing un-self-aware goofballs like yourself.
I’m glad to be of help.
What’s up with your beatnik banter? Are you an old hippie or something?
That being said, merely in the spirit of "return the ball, Gogo, once in a way" (that's Mr. Beckett).... hey don't look at me, I studied Grotowski with Johnny Bottoms at the ART....
"a phrase made classic by Trump (You didn’t know that? SAD!)"
You pay attention to phrase-making by this Trump character? SAD!
"What’s up with your beatnik banter?"
That's Dee Dee Ramone, as sung by Joey of same. Much better artists than you or I will ever be. You can see Johnny's statue in a Hollywood cemetery, if you ever have the balls to go look.
Go look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEBOLXLODbM&list=RDMM&index=1Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Ya know, I’m pretty sure that both of us recognize that low-end internet badinage is just sort of a goofball hobby, and we both have better things to do.
That being said, merely in the spirit of “return the ball, Gogo, once in a way” (that’s Mr. Beckett)…. hey don’t look at me, I studied Grotowski with Johnny Bottoms at the ART….
“a phrase made classic by Trump (You didn’t know that? SAD!)”
You pay attention to phrase-making by this Trump character? SAD!
“What’s up with your beatnik banter?”
That’s Dee Dee Ramone, as sung by Joey of same. Much better artists than you or I will ever be. You can see Johnny’s statue in a Hollywood cemetery, if you ever have the balls to go look.
Go look.
Presumably you would have interesting anecdotes or quotes, but no, nothing. 🧐Seems to have gotten your attention…When I say “what’s up with your beatnik banter”, I’m talking about your entire ongoing persona here. Do you talk like an old hippie in real life?
This is not exclusive to blacks. Not only was this the historic norm, it was the norm in America until quite recently. Whites in the Old South used to behave the same way. The Tulsa Riots were provoked when a black man allegedly assaulted a white woman. I assume that white on white rapes happened from time to time in Tulsa but they never resulted in the entire neighborhood of the rapist being burned down.
Police killings of blacks are seen as inter-tribal (even if the cop is black) and therefore MUCH more serious. So a 14 to 1 ratio seems about right in terms of the relative seriousness of a white cop killing a black vs a black killing a black.Replies: @Prester John
This is analogous to a Jewish comedian making fun of Jews. He or she can get away with it because of who they are. Woe betide ANY gentile who would try that routine though. The ADL would be all over him or her within 24 hours or less. This is all part of what I call the “Our Crook Syndrome” (“he may be a crook, but he’s OUR crook”).
Steve believes that natural rights really are natural and thus derived from nature which, in essence, means God. Therefore, it's his duty to convert the heathen.
Once you understand that Steve is a modern Yankee missionary, his posts make a lot more sense.Replies: @Director95, @Prester John
“Because Steve at his core is a 19th century Yankee missionary…”
If so, then that only makes him (and the entire alt-Right movement) a mirror-image of so-called “Progressives” and their assorted fan clubs in Big Media and High Academia. Both, in their heart of hearts, are what I would call secular Calvinists, and Calvinism-no matter the form it takes (including the secular)-has been with us since Massachusetts Bay Colony and Winthrop’s “city on a hill” (quoting the Sermon on The Mount). It remains deeply embedded within the very fabric of this thing of ours and informs both sides of the ideological divide.
Calvinism–American style–is alive and well for good or for ill; and if history is any judge, it has been mostly for the latter.
Unless you are black yourself why do you care ? I don’t necessarily hate anyone , however I certainly don’t give a damn about people who hate me .
Why should I be concerned if the so-called Ferguson Effect created more black murders , in the black community? After all white leftist along with their black friends demanded cops be removed from the neighborhoods. Now the same people are complaining the police aren’t doing enough .
I understand more white people have been murdered as well , situational awareness anyone ? I can’t do anything about stupid whites who believe we’re all the same , even though I have tried . It’s a futile argument and I’m called every ist you can think of. No point in trying anymore .
Same old song and dance , my friend .
It will be interesting to see how the BLM finances entertainment plays out.
https://nypost.com/2023/05/27/only-33-of-blms-90m-in-donations-helped-charity-foundations/
Add to that the majority of police shootings of suspects are justified. Not all lives “saved” are equal.
Why should I be concerned if the so-called Ferguson Effect created more black murders , in the black community? After all white leftist along with their black friends demanded cops be removed from the neighborhoods. Now the same people are complaining the police aren’t doing enough .
I understand more white people have been murdered as well , situational awareness anyone ? I can’t do anything about stupid whites who believe we’re all the same , even though I have tried . It’s a futile argument and I’m called every ist you can think of. No point in trying anymore .
Same old song and dance , my friend .Replies: @Dennis Dale
So why are you here?
“Still, there appears to have been a big increase in 2020 over 2019 in the number of bystanders getting killed or winged”
As well as high profile members of law enforcement being threatened to get murdered or harmed. But somehow that escapes your NOTICING.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/prosecutors-fbi-agents-hunter-biden-investigation-threatened-rcna104932
https://www.cfr.org/blog/violent-far-right-terrorist-threat-american-law-enforcement
But at least far left violent men and women are getting their comeuppance.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/over-300-people-facing-federal-charges-crimes-committed-during-nationwide-demonstrations
That being said, merely in the spirit of "return the ball, Gogo, once in a way" (that's Mr. Beckett).... hey don't look at me, I studied Grotowski with Johnny Bottoms at the ART....
"a phrase made classic by Trump (You didn’t know that? SAD!)"
You pay attention to phrase-making by this Trump character? SAD!
"What’s up with your beatnik banter?"
That's Dee Dee Ramone, as sung by Joey of same. Much better artists than you or I will ever be. You can see Johnny's statue in a Hollywood cemetery, if you ever have the balls to go look.
Go look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEBOLXLODbM&list=RDMM&index=1Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
Might as well try to up your ‘badinage’ quality. So far you’ve been trolling us with your go-nowhere reminiscing and lame music posts. You come across as a sort of inane lifelong hanger-on. You’re what, in your 60s now and ‘bragging’ that you’ve been in the same room as some c-list (d-list?) creative types? Boring.
Presumably you would have interesting anecdotes or quotes, but no, nothing. 🧐
Seems to have gotten your attention…
When I say “what’s up with your beatnik banter”, I’m talking about your entire ongoing persona here. Do you talk like an old hippie in real life?
Any killing of innocents, whatever group they belong to, saddens me. It's s a horrible thing, and a healthy, functioning society should do what it can to prevent it. It's sad what the US has come to.Replies: @Dr. Krieger
Amen. I was looking for the right words, and you found them for me.
Thank you.
https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1702808979053719561Replies: @Anonymous, @anonymouseperson
Its the camp of the saints.