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Ferguson, Missouri is a suburb of St. Louis out near the airport. In August 2014, it was nationally proclaimed The Face of America’s Greatest Crisis: Too Much Rule of Law. The Black Lives Matter movement more or less began at Ferguson, followed shortly by the Ferguson Effect.
Judging from video of brawls at the Ferguson Walmart this week, it looks like the Ferguson Effect is still going on in Ferguson.
By the way, Ferguson appears to be entering the depopulation end phase of racial transition, with its population dropping by 1/8th from 2010 to 2020. It had managed to stabilize in population around the turn of the century because it was mostly small single family homes. Although younger whites wouldn’t raise their families there due to the schools, older whites weren’t fleeing because their new black neighbors were low-crime homeowners. But then apartment buildings for Section 8 tenants, such as Michael Brown, were built.
| Historical population | |||
|---|---|---|---|
| Census | Pop. | %± | |
| 1880 | 185 | — | |
| 1890 | 750 | 305.4% | |
| 1900 | 1,015 | 35.3% | |
| 1910 | 1,658 | 63.3% | |
| 1920 | 1,874 | 13.0% | |
| 1930 | 3,798 | 102.7% | |
| 1940 | 5,724 | 50.7% | |
| 1950 | 11,573 | 102.2% | |
| 1960 | 22,149 | 91.4% | |
| 1970 | 28,759 | 29.8% | |
| 1980 | 24,740 | −14.0% | |
| 1990 | 22,286 | −9.9% | |
| 2000 | 22,406 | 0.5% | |
| 2010 | 21,203 | −5.4% | |
| 2020 | 18,527 | −12.6% | |
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Hack D the fed gleefully rubs his hands, wonders where he can send Ferguson rioters next to destroy that city.
Gammatard PhysicistDave asks what country Ferguson is in.
Media and politicians ignoring the Ferguson effect, and its THOUSANDS of excess black homicide deaths, is an example of the utter dishonesty and brainwashing of our society.
That also includes omission of @isteve’s clear HONEST analysis that would point to potential solutions
Sincerity dot net lays out the written ethics codes that require to omit and cover up such facts that put “minorities” in a bad light.
4racism.org
goes further and bluntly defends the morality of “racism”, states #RacismSavesLives, i.e. thousands of lives due to Ferguson effect, lack of stop and frisk
the virgin national news vs. the chad local news
Seems like everybody in the fight is obese and totally out of shape. They get in only a few good kicks and punches before they seem totally winded.
Home renovation project.
https://twitter.com/cooperlund/status/1580622852348596225
Read this.
https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1217896354065895424
This “Epstein” guy sounds sort of interesting. I wonder why the media don’t cover him more.
You know perfectly well that the mainstream media will never examine closely an intelligence asset, let alone ask relevant questions.
Epstein was CIA and/or Mossad. (Largely the same thing.)Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
Despite the population decline, shitt economy/poverty, Section 8, crime and other forms of defeneracy, Ferguson property values continue their insane increases, with a nearly 20% increase in the last year alone:
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn’t be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I’m beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn’t appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There’s really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it’s got a notoriousoy low crime rate.
My school district has seen an influx of ~500 new students over the past 12 months and 100% of them are illegal aliens who crossed the border between 2021-2022. Even the mayor of NYC is complaining about the border as NY is swamped with thousands of alien students this year, as they face a teacher shortage after firing 920 teachers who refused to get fully vaccinated by September 2022..Replies: @Anon
WHOA WHOA WHOA
Just what are you suggesting? Speculators in the real estate market looking to make a buck by renting could price out families looking for their first home?
HOW DARE YOU SIR
Capitalism is always good because it is. Every good conservative knows that.
Now go say 25 Hail Rands and apologize.Replies: @Anon
That is what is now occurring in recent months. Expectations with Fed ramping up their rates are that mortgage rates have some room to grow upwards.
While there is a lag, this will kill off the inflation expectations real estate boom to a considerable extent. Recession/depression will force rents down, vacancies rise for higher end rental and largely stop inflation only housing investment. Also may produce a "housing crash" where home prices start to drop their inflationary premiums. Unemployment turns owners into renters, with more empty homes for sale.
Lower population with rising housing prices in Ferguson suggest fewer people per dwelling unit. Low income apts being replaced by higher cost condos or single family units.
Gentrification.
Of course there maybe local factors we are not aware of (new industrial move-ins, flooding alternative housing areas, etc.)Replies: @Anon
Bullschitt.
Old retired working class Whites in a place like that are stuck. They didn’t sell quick enough when the nigbo plague hit the town. In all fairness to many of them, many probably relocated to Ferguson from a previous place closer to the city that nigbos moved into and ruined. Some, no doubt, took a loss then. They can’t afford to take another one, although it’s better than staying.
Many older working class Whites–not just in St. Louis, but in Chicongo, Detroit, Baltimore, Philthaderpia, Cleveland, etc. had/have the same problem. Maybe they left Cleveland, say, when busing hit (the ‘burbs were exempt) in the 70s/80s, and moved to an inner-ring White suburb. A modest one naturally, b/c they couldn’t afford more, since their old neighborhood had no value. Soon, the nigbos moved in and ruined those suburbs, too.
There is a tawning chasm of Whites who escaped and Whites who, out of stupidity, stubbornness, nisplaced optimism, or most often just bad luck and timing, who missed the boat. Thing is, no one gibes two schitts about them, and they have no voice. They just have to die eventually, like Fatso Oprah says. Sometimes, feral “neighbors” help them with that.
I truly don’t care anymore.
It’s sad.
The blame lies with stupid Republicans who still believe in “police” and “Back the Blue” and “you gotta be colorblind”….
and stupid white liberals.
When you have blacktivists like Eric Adams the NYC mayor and Al Sharpton, AL SHARPTON of all people complaining about crime, you know that something is terribly wrong.
Who cares if black cities defund the police?
Epitaph for White America
So you’re saying we can blame this on white flight now? 😮💨
For a second there I thought “the community” might have to take responsibility for its actions. Luckily that buck can be passed.
OT:
Steve Sailer gets another mention from Red Scare in this clip:
Did you know that Ferguson has been the “Community of Choice” since at least 1954?
They proudly fly this flag:
“Mop and bucket man to aisle 5. We’ve got a category 5 chimpout”
I challenge anyone, anywhere, to find me just one video of whites doing a “chimpout” like this in a retail store.
Soccer riots don’t count.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRAF1ZaUu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqMW9pii-Y4Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @International Jew
One of the by-products of The Great Reset.
BTW, Sailer’s Law in full effect tonight in Raleigh NC.
Five dead, zero injuries reported so far.
Coulter’s Law in effect too:
Even the Daily Mail is saying WHITE MALE GUNMAN!!
Every now and then you get a black gunman who knows how to shoot.Replies: @John Johnson
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
Importing foreigners to keep demand up, not a lot of interest in building or buying affordable new homes, and a lot of affordable housing in areas people don’t want to live, that’s most of it.
Most of America is depopulating. All those immigrants are living in the big cities in apartments. Migrants don't move to Ferguson, MO. Turn your brain on and stop spitting nationalist slogans about foreigners. Houses in Ferguson are NOT affordable.
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
A lot of rich people have been buying real estate as an inflation hedge for several years now. The old 5 apartment house next to me in NC was bought by someone in NY who owns 65 houses. Every rational person knew zero Fed rates for more than a decade would bite us eventually. Then there’s the ballooning dept.
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
We’re being squeezed by BlackRock: https://mobile.twitter.com/APhilosophae/status/1402434266970140676
Thinking about the positive side of feudalism (the original social security, versus everything solid melting into air), calling that future feudalism might be a complement. There will be no bond between you and your landlord, and if you pull a gun on rioters your lease will be terminated before you make bail.
The 30 year mortgage is an unnatural and historically weird arrangement, which underlies the inexorable appreciation in prices Anon is questioning. But that didn’t mean what replaces it will be an improvement.
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
You are correct, real estate prices do not appear logical. I suppose one factor keeping housing prices high is the open border policy which allowed 2 million aliens to migrate into America over the last year. But it still is difficult to understand how real estate stays inflated as interest rates quickly rise higher and higher.
My school district has seen an influx of ~500 new students over the past 12 months and 100% of them are illegal aliens who crossed the border between 2021-2022. Even the mayor of NYC is complaining about the border as NY is swamped with thousands of alien students this year, as they face a teacher shortage after firing 920 teachers who refused to get fully vaccinated by September 2022..
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
Monetary inflation and mass immigration.
Inflation can't cause home prices to skyrocket like this and get higher every year, despite all the crime and deaths of despair.
Soccer riots don't count.Replies: @Anon, @SaneClownPosse
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hAc_AsUsMfc
Individual eruptions can be explained by mental illness.
Gotta love the woman at the end who states “That makes me not want to shop here anymore,” and then the reporter who closes stating that the station has reached out to WalMart asking for a statement…
…because it’s WalMart’s fault, as we all should know. Tragic dirt strikes again.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/2f/Seal_of_Ferguson%2C_Missouri.png/705px-Seal_of_Ferguson%2C_Missouri.png?20150313093405
They proudly fly this flag:
https://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/u/us-mofer.gifReplies: @SaneClownPosse
Is that another way of saying Community of the Chosen?
Raleigh, NC is 25.8% black and 51.6% white. And blacks have a murder rate 10x higher than whites. So that gives 5-1 odds that the gunman is black.
Every now and then you get a black gunman who knows how to shoot.
Soccer riots don't count.Replies: @Anon, @SaneClownPosse
Every black Friday at any Walmart.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRAF1ZaUu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqMW9pii-Y4Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @International Jew
I think Mr Drince was referring to group chimpouts. Got any of those?
Individual eruptions can be explained by mental illness.
We know that black men are violent, and now it’s expanded to black early male teens. But more and more I see black women in violent encounters and car jacks. Does this extend up the violence spectrum? Is there a trend of more murders by black women, or do they stop at kicks and inflicting traumatic brain injury?
Occasionally you’ll see a video of a black woman going at a black man, who does a double take, and then bang, zoom, you’re going to the moon, Alishee’ah! It’s always funny seeing the black woman bounce on her fat ass, fake hair flying off, and it never results in any sort of criticism of the guy, different culture, I guess.
That also includes omission of @isteve's clear HONEST analysis that would point to potential solutionsSincerity dot net lays out the written ethics codes that require to omit and cover up such facts that put "minorities" in a bad light.
4racism.org
goes further and bluntly defends the morality of "racism", states #RacismSavesLives, i.e. thousands of lives due to Ferguson effect, lack of stop and friskReplies: @Colin Wright
‘Media and politicians ignoring the Ferguson effect, and its THOUSANDS of excess black homicide deaths, is an example of the utter dishonesty and brainwashing of our society.’
That does raise a question: what would be an appropriate number of black homicide deaths?
After all, I suppose there’s an absolute upper limit, but otherwise — it’s going to be a function of how restrictively you regulate their behavior and how rigorously you police them. We can have no black homicide deaths if we really want to — the cost would be exorbitant, but it could be done.
Nah, that can’t be it. The homeowner vacancy rate is exactly where it was in the 1950s, and the rural midwest is full of empty homes.
Most of America is depopulating. All those immigrants are living in the big cities in apartments. Migrants don’t move to Ferguson, MO. Turn your brain on and stop spitting nationalist slogans about foreigners. Houses in Ferguson are NOT affordable.
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
I’m beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn’t appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty.
WHOA WHOA WHOA
Just what are you suggesting? Speculators in the real estate market looking to make a buck by renting could price out families looking for their first home?
HOW DARE YOU SIR
Capitalism is always good because it is. Every good conservative knows that.
Now go say 25 Hail Rands and apologize.
The immigrants aren’t moving to places like Ferguson, Missouri, where home values increased by nearly 20% last year.
Inflation can’t cause home prices to skyrocket like this and get higher every year, despite all the crime and deaths of despair.
My school district has seen an influx of ~500 new students over the past 12 months and 100% of them are illegal aliens who crossed the border between 2021-2022. Even the mayor of NYC is complaining about the border as NY is swamped with thousands of alien students this year, as they face a teacher shortage after firing 920 teachers who refused to get fully vaccinated by September 2022..Replies: @Anon
Thanks for this rational insight. However, just want to note that out of those 2 million immigrants, I imagine none of them bought a home. Most illegal imigrants live in apartments or in homes they didn’t buy; which are usually crammed with other illegal aliens. Illegals tend to live very efficiently and if the average middle class American struggles to buy a home, I have to imagine it is all but impossible for them.
Every now and then you get a black gunman who knows how to shoot.Replies: @John Johnson
Raleigh, NC is 25.8% black and 51.6% white. And blacks have a murder rate 10x higher than whites. So that gives 5-1 odds that the gunman is black.
Every now and then you get a black gunman who knows how to shoot.
You also get cases like the one in NYC last year where a Black gunman had an extended magazine and unloaded in the general direction of the police officers. If you shoot 25 rounds indoors then it isn’t hard to get one in the vitals.
But our dopey conservatives believe it is the right of every Black criminal to have a 25 round magazine cause NRA Christ says that a pidly 10 rounder makes him weep.
The founding fathers imagined handing Blacks full auto Glocks cause damn it they are in the militia too.
So blacks shouldn't be permitted to own firearms? Is that it? Or extended magazines are inherently evil?
Or "dopey conservatives" are just that because they actually believe in the Second Amendment?
If you are going to pretend to have an argument (racist, extended evil magazines or anti constitution?) then do so explicitly.
Otherwise you are merely wasting electrons pretending to be smarter than you are.Replies: @John Johnson
https://twitter.com/cooperlund/status/1580622852348596225
Read this.
https://twitter.com/KirbySommers/status/1217896354065895424
This "Epstein" guy sounds sort of interesting. I wonder why the media don't cover him more.Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
JW,
You know perfectly well that the mainstream media will never examine closely an intelligence asset, let alone ask relevant questions.
Epstein was CIA and/or Mossad. (Largely the same thing.)
I was just being facetious.
The Raleigh TV station interviewed a neighbor who saw him running away. “This was supposed to be a safe neighborhood.” She didn’t appear on screen, but I could tell by her voice she was black.
Well here in the People’s Republic of Chicago, it’s a pidly 15 rounds. The hatred of big magazines is because the gun controllers don’t want to loose when they send their Storm Troopers after you.
Note in New York State, they went after body armor so that YOU, the ordinary citizen would be at the mercy of government bullets. It’s a police thing to keep you disarmed and helpless before the government.
After a cop was killed by a criminal in the Chicago Thompson Center by a criminal wearing body armor, corrupt gun-owning gun controller ex-cop Ald. Ed Burke decided that Chicagoans shouldn’t be able to get body armor to defend themselves.
[*] – Anti-gun BROTHER of Ed Burke. Citizens are tired of cops always attacking 2A rights.
The word is lose and I take my own position on guns.
I find both liberal and conservative takes on guns to be intellectually dishonest.
The people that wrote the constitution would never have supported Blacks owning 15 round magazines. They didn't think Blacks should vote and Jefferson (who did most the writing) viewed Blacks as mental children.
Note in New York State, they went after body armor so that YOU, the ordinary citizen would be at the mercy of government bullets. It’s a police thing to keep you disarmed and helpless before the government.
The solution to liberal overreach is not conservative dishonesty. Conservatives need to be honest about race and "gun crime" (a euphemism for Black crime). What are they afraid of losing? The Black vote? Conservatives have been dishonest about Black crime since the 60s and Blacks still vote Democrat 90% of the time.Replies: @Joe Stalin
Is your threat model police with handguns, police with "patrol rifles," that is AR-15 pattern ones, or "the government" also armed with AR-15 pattern rifles or carbines like the M4? Because soft like plain Kevlar™ body armor only addresses the former. After that it's rifle plates of very limited coverage; in general but especially the latter are intended for people with a ... logistics tail to get them high quality medical care quick while doing the best to prevent hits that are quickly fatal.
If you're fighting the government armor will potentially give you an edge but it doesn't have the same value proposition, especially unless you have your own high end medical facilities that won't be reporting your gun shots to the government (well, things could change so that wouldn't be so much of an issue, especially the more cops brutalize healthcare workers for just doing their jobs).
I'd be more willing to say this is anarcho-tyranny where the local government wants you "disarmed and helpless" before their criminal allies, this is going to be particularly true in Chicago with the ties between various criminal and political factions.
(The most amazing sort of recent news about Chicago is that after MacDonald and [legal details not relevant here] forced mere legal gun ownership and concealed carry on them, the city and state didn't freak out like New York is right now and as far as I can tell accepted good guys with licenses defending themselves from criminals.)
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
Some basics have gone up more than twenty percent: gas, beef, breakfast cereal, bottled water. Monetary devaluation and insane levels of immigration. Gas and beef are also targeted by the green communists.
Inflation has FUCK ALL to do with home value assessments. Inflation can't be what is shielding homes in Portland from being devalued, when there are homeless people permanently camping in every neighborhood park and leaving needles everywhere. These things have consequences regardless of what the Fed is doing. What we are witnessing is widespread, clandestine fraud in the housing market, probably the largest criminal conspiracy in human history. Wake up.
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
I merely state the obvious that while inflation fears push up speculative home/apt prices, actual manifested inflation results in higher mortgage interest rates on home loans.
That is what is now occurring in recent months. Expectations with Fed ramping up their rates are that mortgage rates have some room to grow upwards.
While there is a lag, this will kill off the inflation expectations real estate boom to a considerable extent. Recession/depression will force rents down, vacancies rise for higher end rental and largely stop inflation only housing investment. Also may produce a “housing crash” where home prices start to drop their inflationary premiums. Unemployment turns owners into renters, with more empty homes for sale.
Lower population with rising housing prices in Ferguson suggest fewer people per dwelling unit. Low income apts being replaced by higher cost condos or single family units.
Gentrification.
Of course there maybe local factors we are not aware of (new industrial move-ins, flooding alternative housing areas, etc.)
The point is that home value assessments aren't tanking despite the fact that there's endemic and rising property crime, violence, depopulation, drug abuse, suicide, low birthrates, declining school performance, etc.
All of these things historically hit home value assessments hard. In the 1980s if a homeless encampment popped up in the drainage ditch behind your house, you were screwed, and could expect a 10-20% devaluation next time your home's value was assessed.
That's not happening today. Today, you could expect a 20% INCREASE in home value under those circumstances.
Either the crime and the deterioration isn't real, or the housing market is no longer constrained by reality. There's no way that home values are soaring despite all statistical indications that America is in terminal decline, without some kind of catch. I think that catch is going to be part of the biggest story of the century. Something really big is going to be revealed this decade: a massive financial fraud that will make the savings & loans scandal look like child's play. And I'm pretty sure it involves AI.
You pretend to make an argument here, but cowardly fail to do so.
So blacks shouldn’t be permitted to own firearms? Is that it? Or extended magazines are inherently evil?
Or “dopey conservatives” are just that because they actually believe in the Second Amendment?
If you are going to pretend to have an argument (racist, extended evil magazines or anti constitution?) then do so explicitly.
Otherwise you are merely wasting electrons pretending to be smarter than you are.
https://www.zillow.com/home-values/45261/ferguson-mo/
Please explain how this is possible. The Left are often accused of conveniently ignoring degeneracy in America, but the real estate market technically shouldn't be able to so that. So what is wrong? Why are so many Americans having a hard time finding affordable houses, when social and infrastructural indicators suggest the average home in America ought to be worth much, much less.
I'm beginning to think that the Communists had a fair point about the speculation of real estate value. It doesn't appear to me that the American housing market is operating according to any sense of rationality or honesty. The same could be extended to European and Latin American housing markets. Most American and European countries seem like they are dying, with gutter-tier fertility rates that show no signs of improving at any point of the future. There's really no reason at all for the outlandishly high home values in Canada, USA, Europe or Argentina. Yet the insanity continues unabated. What is going on? Even Japan has more affordable housing, and it's got a notoriousoy low crime rate.Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Ralph L, @Daniel Williams, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @Woodpecker, @John Johnson, @Scott in PA, @Muggles, @Patrick Gibbs
We ran out of lebensraum
Those houses are out there, as are the apartments, and while you could say that America didn't build enough infrastructure and prepare to accomodate even modest population growth, keep in mind that these shortcomings, too, should contribute to worsening home value assessments.
That isn't what is happening. The values continue to stubbornly and irrationally rise, when they should be falling. This isn't due to naturally unfolding circumstances. This is a monstrous criminal conspiracy in real estate.Replies: @Graveldips, @Old Brown Fool
Without examining Anon[994]'s thesis that it's all fraud, one real problem I suspect we're seeing here is places where people want to live, like to be within an acceptable distance from their place of work. Or in a bigger metro areas where they'll more easily find a new job in their line of work or an acceptable alternative if they need to.
This gets more complicated with two income couples, children and acceptable schools for them, etc. Also policies allowing or not new housing. Thus we see places like San Francisco and the Bay area get crazy house valuations and rental prices because there is or was very compelling reasons for people to flock to them (for it, electronic and computer technology in the nation's most liquid pool of talent for that due to the unenforceability of non-competes in the state) and for SF and some other cities I gather very little new housing being allowed.
Moving back to the instance case, what might be attractive in the above ways for Ferguson???
That is what is now occurring in recent months. Expectations with Fed ramping up their rates are that mortgage rates have some room to grow upwards.
While there is a lag, this will kill off the inflation expectations real estate boom to a considerable extent. Recession/depression will force rents down, vacancies rise for higher end rental and largely stop inflation only housing investment. Also may produce a "housing crash" where home prices start to drop their inflationary premiums. Unemployment turns owners into renters, with more empty homes for sale.
Lower population with rising housing prices in Ferguson suggest fewer people per dwelling unit. Low income apts being replaced by higher cost condos or single family units.
Gentrification.
Of course there maybe local factors we are not aware of (new industrial move-ins, flooding alternative housing areas, etc.)Replies: @Anon
But has nearly zero impact on home values, which is what I’m talking about. Not mortgage rates.
The point is that home value assessments aren’t tanking despite the fact that there’s endemic and rising property crime, violence, depopulation, drug abuse, suicide, low birthrates, declining school performance, etc.
All of these things historically hit home value assessments hard. In the 1980s if a homeless encampment popped up in the drainage ditch behind your house, you were screwed, and could expect a 10-20% devaluation next time your home’s value was assessed.
That’s not happening today. Today, you could expect a 20% INCREASE in home value under those circumstances.
Either the crime and the deterioration isn’t real, or the housing market is no longer constrained by reality. There’s no way that home values are soaring despite all statistical indications that America is in terminal decline, without some kind of catch. I think that catch is going to be part of the biggest story of the century. Something really big is going to be revealed this decade: a massive financial fraud that will make the savings & loans scandal look like child’s play. And I’m pretty sure it involves AI.
Bottled water is one of the things that’s sort of mystifying to me. Nearly doubling since January. Dog food also, and today I noticed canned soup costing nearly three times what it did last year.
It goes on and on, and I have to complain about it here because my Democrat friends and relatives refuse to hear a word about it, unless I’m careful to preface my price rant with “Thanks to Putin…”
Just looked at my receipt. Bunch of fresh spinach, 88 cents. Broccoli crowns, $1.53. Blueberries 1.99 for a pint. Anjou pears $1.99/lb.
Turns out fresh produce is still reasonably affordable.
My purpose in posting: why are we forever told that it costs much more to eat healthy? My store’s clientèle runs about 35% negro but there are never any in the produce department. It’s like some weird kind of food desert.
None of these are subject to valuation. If someone gets shot inside of a grocery store, it doesn’t affect the price of milk. Nor do people outbin the streets dying of an overdose. Homes are affected by that. Home values should have decreased in the last decade. And immigration REDUCES food inflation because the milk, meat, etc industries are running out of people to work in processing plants. They’ve been sounding the aoarm bells for years about this. You anti-immigration zealots are letting your judgment be clouded through ideological rigidity. Not everything is due to immigration.
Inflation has FUCK ALL to do with home value assessments. Inflation can’t be what is shielding homes in Portland from being devalued, when there are homeless people permanently camping in every neighborhood park and leaving needles everywhere. These things have consequences regardless of what the Fed is doing. What we are witnessing is widespread, clandestine fraud in the housing market, probably the largest criminal conspiracy in human history. Wake up.
I don’t think that’s the case, at all. There’s plenty of land and America has fewer people today than it was projected to in the 1960s. There was very little immigration here and most of it was beneficial. We would have much higher prices without the immigrants working in the processing and packing facilities, in fruit harvesting, in construction, etc.
Those houses are out there, as are the apartments, and while you could say that America didn’t build enough infrastructure and prepare to accomodate even modest population growth, keep in mind that these shortcomings, too, should contribute to worsening home value assessments.
That isn’t what is happening. The values continue to stubbornly and irrationally rise, when they should be falling. This isn’t due to naturally unfolding circumstances. This is a monstrous criminal conspiracy in real estate.
The reason house prices aren’t collapsing is that the banks that own them are refusing to sell them, b/c if they did, they’d have to sell them for their real value. This would cause every financial derivative based on house prices and mortgages to evaporate. I know this happened years ago, but the point is that its *still* happening. They dont dare let the price of houses drop, and they’ll hold onto these houses until they crumble rather than put them to market.
Any sensible jurisdiction should put a serious tax on vacant housing.
The house prices in my mostly White neighborhood have gone ballistic, because middle class Whites will pay anything to not live with the diversity. The wetbacks don’t have to buy houses to displace Whites, because we can’t stand to live where theft and other Mexican customs are an everyday occurrence.
Nobody wants to live in a white neighborhood - they want to live in cities like Austin, which is diverse and has experienced a 56% increase in property values in a year.
White neighborhoods are depopulating as middle class young whites flee those Christian shitholes with their tails tucked 'tween their hindlegs, and the boomers die off. The growth has been in the tech cities. Where the life is.Replies: @John Johnson, @Graveldips, @AceDeuce, @Cool Daddy Jimbo
WHOA WHOA WHOA
Just what are you suggesting? Speculators in the real estate market looking to make a buck by renting could price out families looking for their first home?
HOW DARE YOU SIR
Capitalism is always good because it is. Every good conservative knows that.
Now go say 25 Hail Rands and apologize.Replies: @Anon
If only America was less of a Randian hellscape.
“And yet here you are, ma’am.”
Those houses are out there, as are the apartments, and while you could say that America didn't build enough infrastructure and prepare to accomodate even modest population growth, keep in mind that these shortcomings, too, should contribute to worsening home value assessments.
That isn't what is happening. The values continue to stubbornly and irrationally rise, when they should be falling. This isn't due to naturally unfolding circumstances. This is a monstrous criminal conspiracy in real estate.Replies: @Graveldips, @Old Brown Fool
You might have lower prices because you’ve got cheap imported labor doing agricultural and construction work, but you will also have a shittier country.
Those houses are out there, as are the apartments, and while you could say that America didn't build enough infrastructure and prepare to accomodate even modest population growth, keep in mind that these shortcomings, too, should contribute to worsening home value assessments.
That isn't what is happening. The values continue to stubbornly and irrationally rise, when they should be falling. This isn't due to naturally unfolding circumstances. This is a monstrous criminal conspiracy in real estate.Replies: @Graveldips, @Old Brown Fool
No need for any special conspiracy; paper currency is no longer working as Store of Value; anyone who has some money to save has to immediately convert it into something that can retain value against inflation, or, better still, something that will appreciate in value viz a viz the paper money. Real estate readily comes to mind. Gold and silver are, for some reason, not popular with Americans. Therefore real estate prices rise and rise.
“Whole Foods doesn’t actually have a sign saying WHITES ONLY, but we know” as a comedian tweeted years ago.
Well, instead of burning it down like they would have 8 years ago, they are now practicing with the fire extinguisher. Progress!
Bullschitt.
Old retired working class Whites in a place like that are stuck. They didn’t sell quick enough when the nigbo plague hit the town. In all fairness to many of them, many probably relocated to Ferguson from a previous place closer to the city that nigbos moved into and ruined. Some, no doubt, took a loss then. They can’t afford to take another one, although it’s better than staying.
Many older working class Whites–not just in St. Louis, but in Chicongo, Detroit, Baltimore, Philthaderpia, Cleveland, etc. had/have the same problem. Maybe they left Cleveland, say, when busing hit (the ‘burbs were exempt) in the 70s/80s, and moved to an inner-ring White suburb. A modest one naturally, b/c they couldn’t afford more, since their old home neighborhood no longer had much value. Within a decade, the nigbos moved in to those ‘burbs and ruined them, too.
There is a yawning chasm between Whites who escaped and Whites who, out of stupidity, stubbornness, misplaced optimism, or most often just bad luck and timing, who missed the boat. Thing is, no one gives two schitts about them, and they have no voice. They just have to die eventually, like Fatso Oprah says. Sometimes, feral “neighbors” help them with that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJRAF1ZaUu0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqMW9pii-Y4Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @International Jew
Burn the witches!
Eight years ago a black journalist wrote a long and quite insightful feature about Ferguson which appeared a few weeks after the riots. Does somebody remember, who that was and where this article appeared?
The Russian Rubles done pretty well, that would seem to be more of a “Major currency” than the Yiddistani Shekel.
That was the thing that surprised me the most in retrospect. If you would have told me before August 10, 2014, that major riots would break out in St. Louis, and then asked me to predict where in the area the spark took place, I would have never guessed Ferguson in a million years. It’s because Ferguson meant owner occupied middle age suburb mixed race working class.
What I didn’t realize is all the apartment farms in southeast Ferguson, which are actually really close to Jennings. That part of Ferguson has way more of a Jennings feel. If Michael Brown’s life would have ended a mere six football fields south of where it did, then Jennings would be the St. Louis suburb that is now internationally infamous, not Ferguson.
Most of Ferguson’s population loss from 2010 to 2020 is due to those apartment farms losing 80% of their residents in the four years between 2014 and 2018. Bad for wherever they moved to, but a reprieve for Ferguson itself.
Just on a selfish personal note, I have to sit through the Ferguson Effect every fall Saturday — because the false narrative coming out of the shooting ignited all the phony racial malarkey on the Missouri campus, the mutiny of the football team, the resignation of their best coach ever and the rapid crumbling of the program. (All this even before NFL players started taking a knee)
On a related note, last week I caught the school’s new image ad — lots of women and minorities doing cool sciencey things, with nary a white male in sight.
You live in or near Columbia, MO? I lived there from 1989-2001. It was a great education for me, a white woman from West County in the STL Metro area. Quite a few of my high school classmates migrated there and turned hard left. Of course, they didn't live in a lower-class mixed-race neighborhood there like I did. As a conservative said when I told him where I was from, "The inoculation didn't take with you."Replies: @Known Fact
Interesting thread, thank you.
Thinking about the positive side of feudalism (the original social security, versus everything solid melting into air), calling that future feudalism might be a complement. There will be no bond between you and your landlord, and if you pull a gun on rioters your lease will be terminated before you make bail.
The 30 year mortgage is an unnatural and historically weird arrangement, which underlies the inexorable appreciation in prices Anon is questioning. But that didn’t mean what replaces it will be an improvement.
Well here in the People’s Republic of Chicago, it’s a pidly 15 rounds. The hatred of big magazines is because the gun controllers don’t want to loose when they send their Storm Troopers after you.
The word is lose and I take my own position on guns.
I find both liberal and conservative takes on guns to be intellectually dishonest.
The people that wrote the constitution would never have supported Blacks owning 15 round magazines. They didn’t think Blacks should vote and Jefferson (who did most the writing) viewed Blacks as mental children.
Note in New York State, they went after body armor so that YOU, the ordinary citizen would be at the mercy of government bullets. It’s a police thing to keep you disarmed and helpless before the government.
The solution to liberal overreach is not conservative dishonesty. Conservatives need to be honest about race and “gun crime” (a euphemism for Black crime). What are they afraid of losing? The Black vote? Conservatives have been dishonest about Black crime since the 60s and Blacks still vote Democrat 90% of the time.
So blacks shouldn't be permitted to own firearms? Is that it? Or extended magazines are inherently evil?
Or "dopey conservatives" are just that because they actually believe in the Second Amendment?
If you are going to pretend to have an argument (racist, extended evil magazines or anti constitution?) then do so explicitly.
Otherwise you are merely wasting electrons pretending to be smarter than you are.Replies: @John Johnson
You pretend to make an argument here, but cowardly fail to do so.
So blacks shouldn’t be permitted to own firearms? Is that it? Or extended magazines are inherently evil?
It was a tongue in cheek statement. Should have been obvious with a reference to NRA Christ.
I don’t think extended magazines are evil.
Since conservatives have chosen to lie about race I don’t have a problem with differences in urban/rural gun laws. Blacks in urban areas should not have extended magazines.
Or “dopey conservatives” are just that because they actually believe in the Second Amendment?
Dopey conservatives that claim they support the constitution and then ignore everything that the founding fathers wrote on race. So spare me some allusion to constitutional intent.
Dopey conservatives that complain about intellectual dishonesty in the media and then suppress talking about race and crime in their own ranks.
Dopey conservatives that haven’t been able to protect concealed carry in liberal “gun crime” areas which shows their overall strategy is weak.
Otherwise you are merely wasting electrons pretending to be smarter than you are.
That’s amusing. As if I am overreaching against our intellectual vanguard of conservatives.
I’d happy debate any reality-denying conservative at any level. Your dopey conservative leaders however hide behind controlled talk shows and TV programs. They are scared of real debate and having to explain their ideas outside the controlled TV context of conservative establishment vs liberal establishment. They are terrified of appearing racist and will happily lose rather than admit their Leave it to Bantu fantasy hasn’t worked.
I’m not pro-liberal or pro-conservative. Two sides of the same reality denying system. Dopey conservatives arguing with lying liberals as part of a grand establishment circus that you obviously support. Now go put on your f-cking clown nose.
So you won't openly admit that you believe that blacks shouldn't be allowed to own firearms. Instead you rant about "dopey conservatives".
I guess that includes the Founding Fathers (all White males) since there were no racial restrictions on the Second Amendment (or others). Free blacks could and did own firearms when state laws didn't prohibit that (most didn't). Some free blacks fought on the American side in the Revolution.
Better up those meds. If you won't honestly state your real views, don't tell others to "put on your f-cking clown nose."Replies: @John Johnson
Occasionally you'll see a video of a black woman going at a black man, who does a double take, and then bang, zoom, you're going to the moon, Alishee'ah! It's always funny seeing the black woman bounce on her fat ass, fake hair flying off, and it never results in any sort of criticism of the guy, different culture, I guess.Replies: @Rob McX
If I remember rightly, the crime figures show that black women commit more murders per capita than white men.
The word is lose and I take my own position on guns.
I find both liberal and conservative takes on guns to be intellectually dishonest.
The people that wrote the constitution would never have supported Blacks owning 15 round magazines. They didn't think Blacks should vote and Jefferson (who did most the writing) viewed Blacks as mental children.
Note in New York State, they went after body armor so that YOU, the ordinary citizen would be at the mercy of government bullets. It’s a police thing to keep you disarmed and helpless before the government.
The solution to liberal overreach is not conservative dishonesty. Conservatives need to be honest about race and "gun crime" (a euphemism for Black crime). What are they afraid of losing? The Black vote? Conservatives have been dishonest about Black crime since the 60s and Blacks still vote Democrat 90% of the time.Replies: @Joe Stalin
Whatever the truth that is, the USA passed and ratified into the Constitution the Fourteenth Amendment. And for darn sure THAT was certainly intended to allow Blacks access to firearms.
Until the Fourteenth Amendment is repealed, that is the Constitution we live under.
Thanks. That perfectly encapsulates the tyranny of gun-grabbing politicians and cops. You can't kill anyone by wearing Kevlar, but that makes no difference. These people want to leave you defenceless.
For anyone who does lawfully defend himself by shooting someone, the most important rule for dealing with the police is keep your mouth shut. Cops love someone who chats away with them about how he was justified in doing what he did, knowing he'll sooner or later say something they can use in court to send him to prison.
Not quite so simple even before we note the very limited coverage of all feasible modern body armor.
Is your threat model police with handguns, police with “patrol rifles,” that is AR-15 pattern ones, or “the government” also armed with AR-15 pattern rifles or carbines like the M4? Because soft like plain Kevlar™ body armor only addresses the former. After that it’s rifle plates of very limited coverage; in general but especially the latter are intended for people with a … logistics tail to get them high quality medical care quick while doing the best to prevent hits that are quickly fatal.
If you’re fighting the government armor will potentially give you an edge but it doesn’t have the same value proposition, especially unless you have your own high end medical facilities that won’t be reporting your gun shots to the government (well, things could change so that wouldn’t be so much of an issue, especially the more cops brutalize healthcare workers for just doing their jobs).
I’d be more willing to say this is anarcho-tyranny where the local government wants you “disarmed and helpless” before their criminal allies, this is going to be particularly true in Chicago with the ties between various criminal and political factions.
(The most amazing sort of recent news about Chicago is that after MacDonald and [legal details not relevant here] forced mere legal gun ownership and concealed carry on them, the city and state didn’t freak out like New York is right now and as far as I can tell accepted good guys with licenses defending themselves from criminals.)
“Just on a selfish personal note, I have to sit through the Ferguson Effect every fall Saturday — because the false narrative coming out of the shooting ignited all the phony racial malarkey on the Missouri campus…”
You live in or near Columbia, MO? I lived there from 1989-2001. It was a great education for me, a white woman from West County in the STL Metro area. Quite a few of my high school classmates migrated there and turned hard left. Of course, they didn’t live in a lower-class mixed-race neighborhood there like I did. As a conservative said when I told him where I was from, “The inoculation didn’t take with you.”
While I don’t claim to even begin to understand the concept of Lebensraum especially looking at the pre-WWII history in Wikipedia, at minimum it includes land for farms, right? In a sense we’ve reached something of an economic and regulatory (Green) equilibrium of that, but without the implicit huge numbers of people it used to require due to more advanced technology.
Without examining Anon[994]’s thesis that it’s all fraud, one real problem I suspect we’re seeing here is places where people want to live, like to be within an acceptable distance from their place of work. Or in a bigger metro areas where they’ll more easily find a new job in their line of work or an acceptable alternative if they need to.
This gets more complicated with two income couples, children and acceptable schools for them, etc. Also policies allowing or not new housing. Thus we see places like San Francisco and the Bay area get crazy house valuations and rental prices because there is or was very compelling reasons for people to flock to them (for it, electronic and computer technology in the nation’s most liquid pool of talent for that due to the unenforceability of non-competes in the state) and for SF and some other cities I gather very little new housing being allowed.
Moving back to the instance case, what might be attractive in the above ways for Ferguson???
Inflation cannot account for inaccurate home appraisals, where a house in a neighborhood has increased in value by 30% despite being backed up to a homeless encampment, in a neighborhood with a lot of property crime and drug overdoses. This is consistently happening everywhere.
Surely not in Ferguson, MO, where home values increased 20% this year despite the diversity?
Nobody wants to live in a white neighborhood – they want to live in cities like Austin, which is diverse and has experienced a 56% increase in property values in a year.
White neighborhoods are depopulating as middle class young whites flee those Christian shitholes with their tails tucked ‘tween their hindlegs, and the boomers die off. The growth has been in the tech cities. Where the life is.
The place next door to me, a two bedroom 1100 sq ft house built over 80 years ago, was sold for $900,000+ to a couple of techies (Male and female, thankfully.). If they wanted diversity, of any flavor except Chinese, they could have saved a few hundred K$.Replies: @Anon
Ask those suburban White kids ( 3 this year alone) who moved into Philly, went to urban schitthole school Temple U. and got their asses shot off by the "diversity" they craved.
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So you won’t openly admit that you believe that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to own firearms. Instead you rant about “dopey conservatives”.
I guess that includes the Founding Fathers (all White males) since there were no racial restrictions on the Second Amendment (or others). Free blacks could and did own firearms when state laws didn’t prohibit that (most didn’t). Some free blacks fought on the American side in the Revolution.
Better up those meds. If you won’t honestly state your real views, don’t tell others to “put on your f-cking clown nose.”
You live in or near Columbia, MO? I lived there from 1989-2001. It was a great education for me, a white woman from West County in the STL Metro area. Quite a few of my high school classmates migrated there and turned hard left. Of course, they didn't live in a lower-class mixed-race neighborhood there like I did. As a conservative said when I told him where I was from, "The inoculation didn't take with you."Replies: @Known Fact
Class of 77 but those were my only four years in Columbia. The experience worked out very well for me both personally, career-wise and preparation-for-life-wise. Thankfully it was not so woke back then! I wanted to go to college with a normal cross-section of people and got my wish.
Having lots of foreign students gave the good whites plenty of pets to protect. I actually had no problems with most of the foreigners, except the males from the ME. They were insufferable.
It’s not a subjective truth that the framers of the constitution wanted only land owning White men to vote.
So spare me any bullshit about constitutional authority. Both liberals and conservatives pick and choose.
Until the Fourteenth Amendment is repealed, that is the Constitution we live under.
Did you nod your head in agreement when liberals made the same argument regarding abortion?
Fair is fair.Do you own your body or don't you?
So you won't openly admit that you believe that blacks shouldn't be allowed to own firearms. Instead you rant about "dopey conservatives".
I guess that includes the Founding Fathers (all White males) since there were no racial restrictions on the Second Amendment (or others). Free blacks could and did own firearms when state laws didn't prohibit that (most didn't). Some free blacks fought on the American side in the Revolution.
Better up those meds. If you won't honestly state your real views, don't tell others to "put on your f-cking clown nose."Replies: @John Johnson
So you won’t openly admit that you believe that blacks shouldn’t be allowed to own firearms. Instead you rant about “dopey conservatives”.
I never said that Blacks shouldn’t own firearms.
In fact in another thread I said I am fine with race blind laws. Just require a 5 minute vocabulary test.
Are you going to deny that dopey conservatives suppress the discussion of race and crime? Go ahead and post some stats on crime and race at Fox Nation or Free Republic. Let us know how that goes.
They are dopey conservatives because their plans fail and liberalism lurches ahead. California conservatives also had the same plans and AR-15s are basically banned along with hundreds of new handgun models. So yes it is dopey to stick to a plan of censorship and race denial when it repeatedly fails. Liberals eventually get their gun laws and conservative eventually adopt liberal social plans (see gay marriage and affirmative action). Hershel Walker is a walking example of affirmative action. He openly said that he will probably lose the debates.
I guess that includes the Founding Fathers (all White males) since there were no racial restrictions on the Second Amendment (or others).
They didn’t want Blacks to vote but you think they would have supported giving them 25 round magazines in urban areas that suffer from high crime rates? Do you really believe that? Do you support any restrictions? Should we go ahead and legalize auto sears as well? Why not? Maybe we should have Founding Father full-auto supply stores in Black areas. Yes there are dopey conservatives that actually support that position. In fact the libertarian platform allows for selling full-auto guns to Black felons. No restrictions meaning they could buy gold plated M-249s. I’m sure Jefferson in heaven would nod in agreement. WE WERE TOTALLY THINKING THAT ARMING THE BANTU WITH 30 ROUNDERS IS A GOOD IDEA. THEN THEY CAN GET AUTO SEARS FROM CHINA AND LET EM RIP. GOD BLESS FULL AUTO AMERICA.
https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/houston-police-bodycam-video-shows-perp-shooting-cops-with-illegal-full-auto-glock-switch/
Nobody wants to live in a white neighborhood - they want to live in cities like Austin, which is diverse and has experienced a 56% increase in property values in a year.
White neighborhoods are depopulating as middle class young whites flee those Christian shitholes with their tails tucked 'tween their hindlegs, and the boomers die off. The growth has been in the tech cities. Where the life is.Replies: @John Johnson, @Graveldips, @AceDeuce, @Cool Daddy Jimbo
White neighborhoods are depopulating as middle class young whites flee those Christian shitholes with their tails tucked ‘tween their hindlegs, and the boomers die off. The growth has been in the tech cities. Where the life is.
Wow you have not been in tech cities if you think they are full of life.
Try a sausage party where 10 nerds chase the same below-average Asian woman.
The tech cities are the worst places in America. I went bar hopping with a friend from college in Redmond and it was extremely depressing. San Jose is basically one giant overpriced strip mall. The tech cities have these guys making 150k and yet they all go home to play video games. Everyone is wealthy on paper while boomer landlords are raking it in while living somewhere else.
Nobody wants to live in a white neighborhood – they want to live in cities like Austin, which is diverse and has experienced a 56% increase in property values in a year.
Austin is nice but isn’t a tech city. They’ve been growing since the 90s.
Whites don’t normally stay in the cities once they get married and decide to have kids. SF has more dogs than kids.
The average Asian woman is significantly more attractive than the average white woman.
Most of the Asian women I see in tech cities are drop-dead gorgeous and miles out of the league of women in rural and suburban communities.
I think you're just taking the piss. These guys are getting the world's hottest chicks. Not to mention the half-Asian girls. A LOT of the movement of rural men to cities that has been happening for the past several years has been in search for Asian girls.Austin-Round Rock is usually described as a tech city.
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/01/15/as-austin-thrives-as-a-tech-hub-will-it-avoid-san-franciscos-problems
It's hard to imagine what Austin-Round Rock would be like if it wasn't for Dell, Toko Electron, Google, Tesla, Samsung, etc. All have important projects there. And few people would be moving there.Replies: @John Johnson
Nobody wants to live in a white neighborhood - they want to live in cities like Austin, which is diverse and has experienced a 56% increase in property values in a year.
White neighborhoods are depopulating as middle class young whites flee those Christian shitholes with their tails tucked 'tween their hindlegs, and the boomers die off. The growth has been in the tech cities. Where the life is.Replies: @John Johnson, @Graveldips, @AceDeuce, @Cool Daddy Jimbo
Of course people want to buy houses in mostly White neighborhoods. Some White people simply can’t afford a White neighborhood, and have to settle for more diversity that they’d prefer.
The place next door to me, a two bedroom 1100 sq ft house built over 80 years ago, was sold for $900,000+ to a couple of techies (Male and female, thankfully.). If they wanted diversity, of any flavor except Chinese, they could have saved a few hundred K$.
Sounds like your techies were more like downwardly mobile flunkies.
This map shows where Americans are actually moving to. It ain't white neighborhoods.
https://www.rismedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/RDC_Chart_1_map.jpgReplies: @John Johnson
Nobody wants to live in a white neighborhood - they want to live in cities like Austin, which is diverse and has experienced a 56% increase in property values in a year.
White neighborhoods are depopulating as middle class young whites flee those Christian shitholes with their tails tucked 'tween their hindlegs, and the boomers die off. The growth has been in the tech cities. Where the life is.Replies: @John Johnson, @Graveldips, @AceDeuce, @Cool Daddy Jimbo
No fool like a young fool–unless it’s a present day millinitard/Grade Z Gen Z fool. Pampered little turds who grew up in White ‘burbs where the closest they got to a negro was listening rap.
Ask those suburban White kids ( 3 this year alone) who moved into Philly, went to urban schitthole school Temple U. and got their asses shot off by the “diversity” they craved.
Glad it worked out for you. Yes, it wasn’t bad when I visited in 1978 but things were in full swing by the 90s for sure.
Having lots of foreign students gave the good whites plenty of pets to protect. I actually had no problems with most of the foreigners, except the males from the ME. They were insufferable.
Below what average?
The average Asian woman is significantly more attractive than the average white woman.
Most of the Asian women I see in tech cities are drop-dead gorgeous and miles out of the league of women in rural and suburban communities.
I think you’re just taking the piss. These guys are getting the world’s hottest chicks. Not to mention the half-Asian girls. A LOT of the movement of rural men to cities that has been happening for the past several years has been in search for Asian girls.
Austin-Round Rock is usually described as a tech city.
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/01/15/as-austin-thrives-as-a-tech-hub-will-it-avoid-san-franciscos-problems
It’s hard to imagine what Austin-Round Rock would be like if it wasn’t for Dell, Toko Electron, Google, Tesla, Samsung, etc. All have important projects there. And few people would be moving there.
The Asian women in these areas tend to be plain because the attractive ones are scooped up quickly. Another problem with the male/female imbalance. I think you’re just taking the piss. These guys are getting the world’s hottest chicks.Taking the piss??? That's British slang and not used here. Guys in tech areas are not getting the world's hottest chicks That is a harsh reality they learn after moving to these areas and discovering that they are sausage factories. There is a massive male to female imbalance in those areas. I've barhopped both Redmond and Kirkland on a weekend. It was incredibly pathetic and depressing. I've seen redneck bars in the middle of Texas with a better male to female ratio. Military areas have the same problem. Too many men and it skews the dating field. Unattractive women get bumped up from supply and demand. Austin-Round Rock is usually described as a tech city.You've never even been to these cities. No one in Austin says Austin-Round Rock. Round Rock is a city/burb north of Austin and is quite boring. Yes they have Dell but that doesn't make them a tech city. Austin has a diverse economy and doesn't have the sausage fest problem. Anyways I wasn't talking about Austin. I was talking about the East Side in Washington and Silicon Valley. Terrible places to meet women. Unlike you I know people in both areas and the reality of the situation. They are packed with Asian and White guys making 6 figures like everyone else. Making 6 figures doesn't mean much if the housing prices are high and there are few women. Go to the bars in either area and tell me I'm wrong. I think I have actually been to every bar in Kirkland. It was so f-cking boring that we had to keep moving. It has to be the lamest place to meet women in the entire country. I would rather barhop Detroit than Kirkland. No exaggeration. Kirkland is somehow even more soulless than San Jose.
The place next door to me, a two bedroom 1100 sq ft house built over 80 years ago, was sold for $900,000+ to a couple of techies (Male and female, thankfully.). If they wanted diversity, of any flavor except Chinese, they could have saved a few hundred K$.Replies: @Anon
As mentioned by the other commenter, diverse neighborhoods are usually the highest income. The highest income groups are Asian. People are struggling to get in to the neighborhoods that are a diverse collection of whites and Asians. Most people don’t want to live in an all-white neighborhood, because these neighborhoods often have problems of their own with potholes, general dereliction, drugs, etc. The ideal neighborhood is a golden ratio of whites and Asians.
900,000 won’t even buy a garden shed in the Bay Area, so that really says a lot about the value of white neighborhoods.
Sounds like your techies were more like downwardly mobile flunkies.
This map shows where Americans are actually moving to. It ain’t white neighborhoods.
Well certainly if you state “It’s not a subjective truth that the framers of the constitution wanted only land owning White men to vote.” then grant me the same status when I point out that the very words of the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment are intended to allow Blacks the RKBA.
Fair is fair.
Do you own your body or don’t you?
Or even worst, letting Iraqis KEEP their full-automatic Kalashnikov AK-47s with 75 round drum mags after knocking over their government in 2003. Horrors!
What I didn't realize is all the apartment farms in southeast Ferguson, which are actually really close to Jennings. That part of Ferguson has way more of a Jennings feel. If Michael Brown's life would have ended a mere six football fields south of where it did, then Jennings would be the St. Louis suburb that is now internationally infamous, not Ferguson.
Most of Ferguson's population loss from 2010 to 2020 is due to those apartment farms losing 80% of their residents in the four years between 2014 and 2018. Bad for wherever they moved to, but a reprieve for Ferguson itself.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Thanks.
You know perfectly well that the mainstream media will never examine closely an intelligence asset, let alone ask relevant questions.
Epstein was CIA and/or Mossad. (Largely the same thing.)Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
You are correct.
I was just being facetious.
Nobody wants to live in a white neighborhood - they want to live in cities like Austin, which is diverse and has experienced a 56% increase in property values in a year.
White neighborhoods are depopulating as middle class young whites flee those Christian shitholes with their tails tucked 'tween their hindlegs, and the boomers die off. The growth has been in the tech cities. Where the life is.Replies: @John Johnson, @Graveldips, @AceDeuce, @Cool Daddy Jimbo
Young whites will eventually return. They get married, have a kid or two, and realize they don’t want their kids going to elementary school with the diversity, and they don’t want grown men using the bathroom with their six-year-old daughters.
The average Asian woman is significantly more attractive than the average white woman.
Most of the Asian women I see in tech cities are drop-dead gorgeous and miles out of the league of women in rural and suburban communities.
I think you're just taking the piss. These guys are getting the world's hottest chicks. Not to mention the half-Asian girls. A LOT of the movement of rural men to cities that has been happening for the past several years has been in search for Asian girls.Austin-Round Rock is usually described as a tech city.
https://www.economist.com/united-states/2022/01/15/as-austin-thrives-as-a-tech-hub-will-it-avoid-san-franciscos-problems
It's hard to imagine what Austin-Round Rock would be like if it wasn't for Dell, Toko Electron, Google, Tesla, Samsung, etc. All have important projects there. And few people would be moving there.Replies: @John Johnson
Below what average?
The average Asian woman is significantly more attractive than the average white woman.
The Asian women in these areas tend to be plain because the attractive ones are scooped up quickly. Another problem with the male/female imbalance.
I think you’re just taking the piss. These guys are getting the world’s hottest chicks.
Taking the piss??? That’s British slang and not used here.
Guys in tech areas are not getting the world’s hottest chicks That is a harsh reality they learn after moving to these areas and discovering that they are sausage factories. There is a massive male to female imbalance in those areas. I’ve barhopped both Redmond and Kirkland on a weekend. It was incredibly pathetic and depressing. I’ve seen redneck bars in the middle of Texas with a better male to female ratio.
Military areas have the same problem. Too many men and it skews the dating field. Unattractive women get bumped up from supply and demand.
Austin-Round Rock is usually described as a tech city.
You’ve never even been to these cities. No one in Austin says Austin-Round Rock. Round Rock is a city/burb north of Austin and is quite boring. Yes they have Dell but that doesn’t make them a tech city. Austin has a diverse economy and doesn’t have the sausage fest problem.
Anyways I wasn’t talking about Austin. I was talking about the East Side in Washington and Silicon Valley. Terrible places to meet women. Unlike you I know people in both areas and the reality of the situation. They are packed with Asian and White guys making 6 figures like everyone else. Making 6 figures doesn’t mean much if the housing prices are high and there are few women.
Go to the bars in either area and tell me I’m wrong. I think I have actually been to every bar in Kirkland. It was so f-cking boring that we had to keep moving. It has to be the lamest place to meet women in the entire country. I would rather barhop Detroit than Kirkland. No exaggeration. Kirkland is somehow even more soulless than San Jose.
Sounds like your techies were more like downwardly mobile flunkies.
This map shows where Americans are actually moving to. It ain't white neighborhoods.
https://www.rismedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/RDC_Chart_1_map.jpgReplies: @John Johnson
Most people don’t want to live in an all-white neighborhood, because these neighborhoods often have problems of their own with potholes, general dereliction, drugs, etc. The ideal neighborhood is a golden ratio of whites and Asians.
Our anonymous friend clearly hasn’t been around America and is trying overexaggerate Asians.
As if Whites can’t figure out potholes without Asians. What a joke.
Whites invented the neighborhood along with the machines that fix potholes. Did you forget about that?
Drive the burbs of Boise and tell me how many potholes you see. Utah has insanely immaculate neighborhoods if spending hours upon hours on a lawn is your thing.
900,000 won’t even buy a garden shed in the Bay Area, so that really says a lot about the value of white neighborhoods.
No it says that the Bay Area is filled with childless liberals and gays that make 6 figures. They don’t spend money on kids and can put it all into an overpriced 1200 sq ft townhouse. And 900k is actually an average price for a home. You can get a townhouse for 700k.
There is also a lack of construction in SF compared to other major cities for reasons that are debated. At the very least is a NIMBY problem where a construction project can be held up in court for years. The larger the housing project the higher the risk.
California is also managed by dunderheaded liberals that can’t face the reality of race and allow Oakland to turn into Mad Max while every last block in SF becomes artificially overpriced. It’s race denial skewing the market. There is plenty of land in Oakland but the authorities believe in letting that Bantu run wild since their liberal religion attributes all pathologies to be caused by evil Whites.