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Eritrea is an interesting little country in northeast Africa, north of its archenemy Ethiopia, but like Ethiopia in being mostly a higher altitude place with a mixed race and mixed religion population and a leftist-nationalist government.

Eritrea’s capital of Asmara has some of the wildest 1930s Italian architecture in the world. Not that much was built during the Depression, but there was lots of talent putting designs on paper in the 1930s. For reasons of Mussolini’s whim, Eritrea happens to be one of the few places where 1930s designs got built in profusion.

The average high temperature in Asmara at 7,600 feet elevation during the warmest month of the year (April) is 77 degrees. Humidity is moderate, rainfall is 20 inches per year. The climate resembles Santa Barbara.

The Eritrean economy is largely propped up by remittances earned by Eritreans abroad. (For example, Eritreans appear to dominate the parking lot attendant gig in Los Angeles.)

The Eritrean government appears to have come up with a brilliant scam for getting Eritreans to the head of the line for immigrating into wealthy white countries. Eritrea nominally has a law making it illegal to leave Eritrea, so all Eritreans who do leave aren’t immigrants, they are refugees!

Plus, the government of Eritrea is not accommodating of letting foreign journalists visit Eritrea, allowing horror stories told by purported refugees to circulate unchecked in the West. Finally, a reporter from Der Spiegel has visited Eritrea and discovered its clean little secret: it’s not so bad.

It’s not so good, either, of course. It’s run by elderly war heroes long past their primes and terrified of being overthrown. But by African standards, it’s more orderly than most countries.

A Visit to ‘Africa’s North Korea’

After Syrians, refugees from Eritrea have the best chance of gaining asylum in Germany. But are conditions in the isolated one-party state really so brutal?

By Bartholomäus Grill

November 02, 2017 09:39 AM

The woman smiles as she looks out the window, happy to be returning home. She is about to arrive in the Eritrean capital Asmara, a city in a valley surrounded by verdant mountains, having flown in from Frankfurt, with a stopover in Dubai. She is a middle-aged Eritrean woman who was granted political asylum in Germany, a woman who fled her country but is now returning voluntarily. She chooses to remain anonymous, because in Eritrea, illegally leaving the country is a jailable offense.

She is traveling to Eritrea as if she were a tourist. Everything proceeds normally as she passes through passport control, baggage claim and customs. She is planning to visit her family, and has brought along gifts and money for them, before boarding her return flight to Germany in two weeks. “Many are doing this,” she says, getting into a taxi. But how is it possible that people can travel unobstructed back to their native country, one decried as an evil dictatorship and accused of brutally oppressing its citizens?

Similarly, lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran, which can be puzzling to the more true believer neocons.

According to the government, 116,000 Eritrean refugees visited their native country last year alone. But can the figures of a regime that manipulates statistics be trusted? And what explains the visits by Eritrean expatriates? An aid worker from Finland provides an answer: The government tolerates the returnees because they bring foreign currency to the impoverished nation and are also a source of income in the form of the so-called “development tax.”

Eritrea is still run by aging national liberation warriors who won independence from Ethiopia in 1991. They conscript all young people and put many to work on labor projects for years.

Indeed, in some months it is thought that up to 5,000 young men and women flee the country. In late 2015, the UN Refugee Agency counted 474,296 refugees from Eritrea, or 10 percent of the country’s population of 5 million. Some 92 percent of the Eritreans who applied for asylum in Germany in 2016 were recognized, while 81 percent were recognized in 2017. Syrian refugees were the only group with a higher acceptance rate.

Eritrean refugees base their asylum applications on human rights violations, which are sharply criticized by the United Nations. The UN report soberly concludes that the regime in Eritrea employs “totalitarian practices” that instill a constant state of fear in its citizens.

At first glance, there is no evidence of this fear in Asmara. People go about their business in the city’s markets, young women wearing jeans walk along the streets and men sit chatting in the cafes.

Eritrea is one of the last Bonapartist-Nasserite regimes run by secular modernizing military men. They figure if they stepped down, the Muslims and Christian would be at each other’s throats in a few minutes.

Or maybe they just like being in power.

Anyway, it’s in the interest of both the regime and the emigres for stories to circulate about how horrible things are back in Eritrea so the Eritreans get refugee status and can send money home.

 
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  1. Here’s one: if it turns out you’re going on vacation to the place you fled from, we know you were lying to us and you get deported.

    That’s what a serious country would do anyway. There would be a provisional form of citizenship and a detective force dedicated to figuring out where you go when you’re not in the country.

    Ah nice fantasy.

    • Replies: @Altai
    @kihowi

    Trouble is the people who do this most aren't the easy target layabout single men. They're families with children bringing them home to visit grandparents/cousins and other extended family.

    Most governments/departments don't want to have to deal with deporting too many of them. (Though some do get deported.)

  2. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    So are Eritrea’s rulers actually gaming this? That’s a thought I hadn’t considered before, and I have sometimes puzzled over the very bad reputation Eritrea has regarding freedom. I don’t doubt that you can’t just march around in the public square with posters denouncing the regime, but I’ve met a few Eritreans, and they don’t seem like people who have just escaped from Plato’s Cave. (By contrast, I think the former North Korean deputy ambassador in London told Congress that his former master was literally the worst regime in the history of the world, and I don’t think he was trying to exaggerate.)

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous


    the former North Korean deputy ambassador in London told Congress that his former master was literally the worst regime in the history of the world, and I don’t think he was trying to exaggerate
     
    Regardless, it’s obviously a hyperbole. I mean, Maoist China? Khmer Rogue Cambodia? The Stalinist USSR or Nazi Germany are not directly comparable, but are also recent contenders for the “worst regime ever” title for a number of reasons.

    For all I know, the North Korean regime is quite bad, but probably there’s a lot of exaggeration going on.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Anonymous

    , @unit472
    @Anonymous

    I wouldn't think you could walk around Washington with a poster SUPPORTING the elected leader and not come to grief but does that mean a Republican can claim political asylum in Germany?

  3. Similarly, lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran, which can be puzzling to the more true believer neocons.

    And Jack D.

    • Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
    @Svigor

    Funny, brief and spot-on: the quintessential I-Steve commentator reply!

    , @Jack D
    @Svigor

    I take annual vacations in Iran?

    I did visit my ancestral shtetls once a few years ago. Everyone was very nice but it was more than a little creepy. The topper was when I asked where all the gravestones were from the Jewish cemetery (since they were not in the cemetery). They told me that they had used them to pave the cow barn in the collective farm. The whole place was like one big cemetery to me - just full of ghosts.

  4. Eritreans seem to be very unremarkable people. I personally have no problem with some hundred thousands refugees from there in Germany. Better not to have them, but still no big deal. At least I´d better have 100.000 people from Eritrea than 10.000 people from Ghana or Nigeria.

    • Disagree: German_reader
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Erik Sieven

    They are better looking than Nigerian and Ghanaians too.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven, @Herzog

    , @Anonymous
    @Erik Sieven

    This is, in a nutshell, the vast, bottomless stupidity of the average German-Western ruminant - so called "gutmensch" in Germany - perpetual Merkel-greens-SPD voter, framed candidly in a poignant internet comment:

    She does not mind having "a few hundred thousands" Eritreans, no big deal. Better few hundred thousands Erithreans than 10k Ghanaians or Nigerians, puzzlingly adds, without further clarification, though we cannot help but suspect he would not mind a few hundred thousand of each African country either, plus some hundred thousand from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya, Haiti and from some two dozen third world shitholes more for good measure.

    No big deal, says the tasty calf.

    It is, you moron.

    , @Perspective
    @Erik Sieven

    People keep conjuring up these surreal hypothetical fantasies that the serfs have been offered a choice between accepting group A or group B. Please do yourself a favour and disabuse yourself of this notion immediately. We have not been offered a choice, nor is one forthcoming any time soon. Just say no to all the above.

    Replies: @Moshe

  5. @Anonymous
    So are Eritrea's rulers actually gaming this? That's a thought I hadn't considered before, and I have sometimes puzzled over the very bad reputation Eritrea has regarding freedom. I don't doubt that you can't just march around in the public square with posters denouncing the regime, but I've met a few Eritreans, and they don't seem like people who have just escaped from Plato's Cave. (By contrast, I think the former North Korean deputy ambassador in London told Congress that his former master was literally the worst regime in the history of the world, and I don't think he was trying to exaggerate.)

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @unit472

    the former North Korean deputy ambassador in London told Congress that his former master was literally the worst regime in the history of the world, and I don’t think he was trying to exaggerate

    Regardless, it’s obviously a hyperbole. I mean, Maoist China? Khmer Rogue Cambodia? The Stalinist USSR or Nazi Germany are not directly comparable, but are also recent contenders for the “worst regime ever” title for a number of reasons.

    For all I know, the North Korean regime is quite bad, but probably there’s a lot of exaggeration going on.

    • Replies: @Not Raul
    @reiner Tor

    The link you posted didn't work.

    Were you referring to this?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    , @Anonymous
    @reiner Tor

    (same Anon as above)

    I don't think it is hyperbole, although I do think you are raising good points.

    The NK defector was making the point that NK citizens are told they live in the greatest regime ever, while it is in fact the worst. In my view, this is far closer to being true than to being false.

    As for the Guardian, this strikes me, in part, as a mainstream "leftist" attempt to minimize the atrocities of overtly "leftist" regimes. It doesn't matter if NK has very little "objective" affinity with leftist ideals, since it identifies as "communist". This strikes me as akin to Chomksy's attempt to minimize the Khmer Rouge atrocities. (And I think Chomsky is a smart guy, sometimes even when it comes to politics...)

    Apart from living under ISIS, which seems (if I should believe the media) to have been mostly destroyed as a functioning state, NK seems by far to be the worst existing "state". Just speaking for myself, I'd probably choose to live under Hitler or Stalin (and I'd be at great risk), but I'd probably choose NK over Pol Pot.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  6. Steve,

    For some insights about Eritrea and Eritrean character your readers might be interested in the Eritrean-Ethiopian Wars. The War Nerd (aka John Dolan) has provided a lively and maybe insightful discussion of Eritrean character and their fighting characteristics.

    • Replies: @DFH
    @Dan Hayes

    I always really liked Dolan's literary criticism as well, shame he's a British-hating taig

    http://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-yzyuk-2590b7f

  7. @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous


    the former North Korean deputy ambassador in London told Congress that his former master was literally the worst regime in the history of the world, and I don’t think he was trying to exaggerate
     
    Regardless, it’s obviously a hyperbole. I mean, Maoist China? Khmer Rogue Cambodia? The Stalinist USSR or Nazi Germany are not directly comparable, but are also recent contenders for the “worst regime ever” title for a number of reasons.

    For all I know, the North Korean regime is quite bad, but probably there’s a lot of exaggeration going on.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Anonymous

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Not Raul

    Yes, sorry.

  8. @Not Raul
    @reiner Tor

    The link you posted didn't work.

    Were you referring to this?

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/13/why-do-north-korean-defector-testimonies-so-often-fall-apart

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Yes, sorry.

  9. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    The ‘great Eritrean national “refugee” racket’ runs like this:

    Eritrean hustlers bumrush EU borders claiming to be running away from a repressive Marxist regime which imposes 20 year long compulsory military service upon men and women alike.
    Soft-headed soft-hearted soft-dicked EU judges and EU junta dictators fall for the scam. Thus, effectively, any Eritrean who gatecrashes the EU can stay basically forever – plus, eventually, bring the whole clan with them.

    Meanwhile, the Spanish government has summarily thrown Catalan political dissenters into jail for purely nonviolent political ‘offences’.
    The f*cking EU, ever so vocal in loudly claiming its ‘human rights’ cooties is strangely silent.

    • Replies: @Moshe
    @Anonymous

    The Catalonians are pretty much pussies.

    They had a referendum.

    They had a vote in a plenary session.

    They declared independence.

    Then they did nothing.

    The popular separatist police chief resigned and the government, faced with nothing more than a non-serious arrest by Spain, sneaked across the border in a clown car to wah wah to mommy brussels.

    And the Catalonian people? Well, those who want (absolute) independence say that they now live in Independent Catalonia. Those who oppose independence (which includes almost all of the Laton Americans) say they are in Spain.

    And those with guns, in the employ of The People, also say that they are still Spanish.

    The most fanatical (normal) separatists sillently say that "we wait for the 21st of December".

    A state born by of multiple declarations of independence will have a shameful glori-less tale to teach their progeny.

    It's a shame, because I was really looking forward to the increased Proud Diversity of practice and culture that this would generate in Europe.

    Homage to Catalonia












    Dec 21

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA, @Jack D, @DFH

    , @Wilkey
    @Anonymous

    I've pointed this out more than once: the EU says it must absolutely protect the "rights" of lying SOB non-citizens from countries thousands of miles away to invade the EU by the millions, but it is more than happy to silence the very basic rights of Catalans whose families have lived in Catalonia for centuries or millenia to self-determination.

    If the Trump Administration had any common sense and really wanted to take on the globalists it would point out the hypocrisy inherent here.

    Replies: @Fredrik

    , @AndrewR
    @Anonymous

    Catalonia has been a breeding pit for communism for generations. I don't want them to have independence from Spain, which exercises a moderating effect on Catalan toxic leftism.

    , @Eagle Eye
    @Anonymous


    SoftHard-headed softhardhearted soft-dicked EU judges and EU junta dictators fall for actively enable the scam.
     
  10. @Erik Sieven
    Eritreans seem to be very unremarkable people. I personally have no problem with some hundred thousands refugees from there in Germany. Better not to have them, but still no big deal. At least I´d better have 100.000 people from Eritrea than 10.000 people from Ghana or Nigeria.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Perspective

    They are better looking than Nigerian and Ghanaians too.

    • Replies: @Erik Sieven
    @Anonymous

    not in the eyes of the average german women, for whom actually West Africans are the most attractive.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @jtgw

    , @Herzog
    @Anonymous

    Especially the women (a few of them are coming too).

    Having said this, not all is peaches and cream with the Eritrean migrants either. There was a famous case here in Germany, shortly after Madam Merkel started the whole mess in 2015, where an Eritrean was murdered in Dresden, home of Pegida. Of course the entire Cathedral media machine tried to lay the crime at the feet of Pegida, at least morally. As things turned out, the guy had been stabbed to death by another Eritrean.

    Still, they don't seem to be as aggressive and harrassive (I know it's probably not a word -- but perhaps it should be?) as the Arabs and Afghans.

  11. @Anonymous
    So are Eritrea's rulers actually gaming this? That's a thought I hadn't considered before, and I have sometimes puzzled over the very bad reputation Eritrea has regarding freedom. I don't doubt that you can't just march around in the public square with posters denouncing the regime, but I've met a few Eritreans, and they don't seem like people who have just escaped from Plato's Cave. (By contrast, I think the former North Korean deputy ambassador in London told Congress that his former master was literally the worst regime in the history of the world, and I don't think he was trying to exaggerate.)

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @unit472

    I wouldn’t think you could walk around Washington with a poster SUPPORTING the elected leader and not come to grief but does that mean a Republican can claim political asylum in Germany?

  12. North Korea is the world’s first Communist monarchy. Gives paleos here cognitive dissonance?

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @anony-mouse

    Juche gotta be kidding.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Nico
    @anony-mouse

    Maybe not.

    If anything North Korea is a monarchy in the Far Eastern tradition, where the emperor not only claims but also effectively holds tight to absolute power and divinity until a warring faction kills him. This goes beyond autocracy. It's extreme even by ancient Persian standards and it's completely foreign to the West in any era: only Caligula attempted something similar and he didn't last very long. Subsequent Roman emperors (in Rome at any rate) were careful to mind the gap between their de jure claims and the de facto complex institutional situation of the realm. It's not something most educated paleos have ever advocated for the West.

    , @Samuel Skinner
    @anony-mouse

    It evolves into Neo-Reaction. 'The problem with North Korea is that it is not total enough- power is insecure. If the Kim family had even more power and didn't have to be overthrown, that would be closer to our vision of an ideal society'.

  13. The Art of Scamming and/or Gaming the American Immigration System is widely practiced all over the Third World. I would say the pace picked up around 1990. The only folks who seem to be unaware of these finagling schemes are the common American citizens. The American politicians are of course fully in the know but pretend not to know what they know.

    There was a consular officer who had once written a revealing account of his experiences as a visa officer at consular posts abroad (it must be somewhere on the web). As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA.

    • Replies: @Nico
    @MG


    There was a consular officer who had once written a revealing account of his experiences as a visa officer at consular posts abroad (it must be somewhere on the web). As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA.
     
    Of course Trump was never serious about "draining the swamp" but two simple measures would have had great salutary effect. The first would be to nationalize, bust up and sell off to right-wing interests all of Goldman Sachs's assets.

    The second would have been to fire and replace the entire roster of the hornet's nest known as the State Department who as you say do NOTHING to serve the country that pays them.
    , @Anonymous
    @MG

    To be perfectly honest *all* third world immigration into the west is just a scam whether it's 'gamed' or not.

    The evidence that it is economically ruinous to the dupe country is overwhelming and incontestable.
    The only real question is whether the immigrationists are merely fools or just plain liars.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    , @Moshe
    @MG

    This is indeed the case. I have investigated the subject.

    This means that the people we getting are not only the least scrupulous and greediest of their countrymen, but they will never be proud and honest Americans. They will always know that their American Rights were stolen rather than granted; that they are *using* us rather than gratefully *being* one of us.

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @MG

    "As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA."

    How true. I have conducted minor consulate business as a founding stock US by birth citizen tourist and temporary resident in several Latin American countries and Spain.

    Almost invariably the people I dealt with were surly, inflexible and down right nasty host county nationals. It was about like going down to the local office of the cable/ISP company to dispute a bill.

  14. @anony-mouse
    North Korea is the world's first Communist monarchy. Gives paleos here cognitive dissonance?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Nico, @Samuel Skinner

    Juche gotta be kidding.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Ha ha!

  15. Of course the whole “refugee” thing is a scam, including the phony “charities” that resettle them using government money — anyway, this reminded me of the “LOL” ‘Canadians of convenience’ farce, where large numbers of Lebanese Canadians living in Lebanon were evacuated during the 2006 Israeli invasion — they had come to Canada earlier as “refugees”, gotten Canadian citizenship, then moved back to Lebanon — oftentimes they were getting Canadian welfare while living in Lebanon — there were so many that it made the common lie they told that they just happened to be there on vacation when Israel invaded also “LOL” funny — I still remember the fotos and video of them waving little Canadian flags as they stepped off Canadian Air Force planes back in Canada.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    @eah

    "I still remember the fotos and video of them waving little Canadian flags as they stepped off Canadian Air Force planes back in Canada."

    Interesting. I wonder who provided them with the flags? Sounds like the government was rather complicit in perpetuating a fraud upon the Canadian people. But then that's part for the course with Western "democracies" these days.

    Replies: @eah

    , @Big Bill
    @eah

    It sounds like the Indian (dot) welfare scam. Pajeet converts his H1B visa to a green card, brings his elderly parents over from Bangalore to "reunite" his family, signs them up for SSDI, then sends them home to India to live out their dotage with a US welfare check. Pretty good deal.

    Replies: @eah

    , @Perspective
    @eah

    Not surprising. I was told by a Pakistani colleague that many of his fellow countrymen will immigrate, usually under the merit based economic category I might add, to Canada for the purposes of taking out a massive line of credit loan from banks that offer special getting started programs to "new Canadians". They will then max out the line of the credit then subsequently hightail back to Pakistan under a new identity.

  16. @anony-mouse
    North Korea is the world's first Communist monarchy. Gives paleos here cognitive dissonance?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Nico, @Samuel Skinner

    Maybe not.

    If anything North Korea is a monarchy in the Far Eastern tradition, where the emperor not only claims but also effectively holds tight to absolute power and divinity until a warring faction kills him. This goes beyond autocracy. It’s extreme even by ancient Persian standards and it’s completely foreign to the West in any era: only Caligula attempted something similar and he didn’t last very long. Subsequent Roman emperors (in Rome at any rate) were careful to mind the gap between their de jure claims and the de facto complex institutional situation of the realm. It’s not something most educated paleos have ever advocated for the West.

  17. @MG
    The Art of Scamming and/or Gaming the American Immigration System is widely practiced all over the Third World. I would say the pace picked up around 1990. The only folks who seem to be unaware of these finagling schemes are the common American citizens. The American politicians are of course fully in the know but pretend not to know what they know.

    There was a consular officer who had once written a revealing account of his experiences as a visa officer at consular posts abroad (it must be somewhere on the web). As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA.

    Replies: @Nico, @Anonymous, @Moshe, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    There was a consular officer who had once written a revealing account of his experiences as a visa officer at consular posts abroad (it must be somewhere on the web). As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA.

    Of course Trump was never serious about “draining the swamp” but two simple measures would have had great salutary effect. The first would be to nationalize, bust up and sell off to right-wing interests all of Goldman Sachs’s assets.

    The second would have been to fire and replace the entire roster of the hornet’s nest known as the State Department who as you say do NOTHING to serve the country that pays them.

  18. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @MG
    The Art of Scamming and/or Gaming the American Immigration System is widely practiced all over the Third World. I would say the pace picked up around 1990. The only folks who seem to be unaware of these finagling schemes are the common American citizens. The American politicians are of course fully in the know but pretend not to know what they know.

    There was a consular officer who had once written a revealing account of his experiences as a visa officer at consular posts abroad (it must be somewhere on the web). As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA.

    Replies: @Nico, @Anonymous, @Moshe, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    To be perfectly honest *all* third world immigration into the west is just a scam whether it’s ‘gamed’ or not.

    The evidence that it is economically ruinous to the dupe country is overwhelming and incontestable.
    The only real question is whether the immigrationists are merely fools or just plain liars.

    • Agree: BenKenobi
    • Replies: @Big Bill
    @Anonymous

    Forty years ago, when a US merchant ship docked in New York after a foreign voyage, Immigration or Customs would check everyone's ID. Stowaways were arrested, and the shipping company was responsible for their care and maintenance and for returning them home. Simple.

    Thirty years ago, Prof. Lawrence Tribe taught my Con Law class how to work the refugee scam. Don't stow away. Get a visitors visa to the US, board a plane, then destroy ALL your identity papers and plane ticket en route. On arrival, go straight to Customs and demand asylum, claiming to be from some recognized war-torn country. US officials will give you a Notice to Appear (it might take years) and turn you loose to wander around the US. The airlines have no responsibility.

  19. My uncle used to deal with asylum cases. He told me that at one point so many Sudanese would pretend to be Christian on the basis of the typical discrimination against Christians in Sudan.

    He could tell by visual inspection that they weren’t fully Bantu and thus likely ethnically Sudanese and unlikely to be Christian. But he couldn’t note such a thing in an assessment so he then proceeded to ask them very simple questions about Christianity that even somebody with no theological interest but from a Christian community, would know. They could never answer even simple questions. They didn’t even bother looking any of it up.

    There is no individual effort in asylum seeking since the internet became widespread. That Sudanese guy my uncle spoke to hadn’t thought this Christian gambit on his own, if he had he’d have looked into it. Every step, every lie is on a printout they got from the internet. The sites tell them what they’re entitled to and even how to scam more welfare. What the welfare is in each country along with how easy it is to get asylum in each country. This is the primary factor for the explosion in such behaviour since the early 2000s. The worst example were the near constant flow of South Asian ‘Syrians’ getting off the trains in Germany or maybe the 6’3 pale-skinned, light eyed Albanian ‘Syrians’ I saw walking into Sweden. Of course, most of the asylum seekers from countries at war were not in danger when they made their way to Europe in the past either, nor did they ever come home when the wars ended.

    The early waves in the 90s from Somali and the Balkans may have led to the first industrial gaming of the system. Ali Hirsi once admitted that she and her family lied to gain asylum in the Netherlands. As, I expect, did Zlatan in Sweden, but hey, he turned out to be good at football so only all his relatives are violent criminals and not him too.

    The constitution of the Republic of Ireland was changed because of this, removing birth-right citizenship from individuals without the right of permanent residency after thousands of pregnant Nigerian women flooded the main maternity ward after this fact was discovered and disseminated over the internet. Virtually all of the Nigerian immigration to Europe is based on blatant asylum fraud.

    The Eritrean pretending to be Ethiopian is another oldie but a goodie because a Western official has no way of being able to tell them apart.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
    @Altai

    Here's a sound if slightly distasteful rule-of-thumb. "Virtually all of the Nigerian immigration to activity in Europe is based on blatant asylum fraud. "
    You can bet your lottery win/inheritance on it.

  20. Moshe says:

    Similarly, lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran, which can be puzzling to the more true believer neocons.

    I spent some time with that community about 5 years ago and I don’t remember this to be the case.

    I’m sure some went to visit but “lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran” is a really big claim.

    Are you confident that it’s more than, say, 2 percent of them?

    And *annual*?

    And *vacation* rather than checking in with family in a perilous situation?

    And “home in Iran”?

    If you have more than some human interest piece from a reporter looking for attention I would be interested to know about it. Your claim does not appear to pass the sniff test.

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Moshe

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

    Replies: @Moshe

    , @Faraday's Bobcat
    @Moshe

    I can't speak to the Persian Jews, but my wife's grandfather got a green card as a refugee from a certain Asian country 25 years ago, and though nothing about the country has changed since then, he's currently in said country on a six-month visit. As a bonus, he's been drawing SSI since he got off the plane back in the early 90s. If he can do it, the Persian Jews can.

    Replies: @Moshe

  21. @kihowi
    Here's one: if it turns out you're going on vacation to the place you fled from, we know you were lying to us and you get deported.

    That's what a serious country would do anyway. There would be a provisional form of citizenship and a detective force dedicated to figuring out where you go when you're not in the country.

    Ah nice fantasy.

    Replies: @Altai

    Trouble is the people who do this most aren’t the easy target layabout single men. They’re families with children bringing them home to visit grandparents/cousins and other extended family.

    Most governments/departments don’t want to have to deal with deporting too many of them. (Though some do get deported.)

  22. An aid worker from Finland provides an answer:

    Has the reporter thought to ask the Eritreans? Many asylum frauds consider it all very funny and a game and assume the government must know they’re lying. I’m sure many would admit the whole process if asked. And really those websites and message boards are all out there.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Altai

    The 'funny' thing is that western 'government officials', politicians, journalists etc absolutely *do not* get that they are being gamed and conned.

    In fact, the more big and pompous and 'high powered' the western fool is, the more likely he is to be fooled by the lies.

  23. Moshe says:
    @Anonymous
    The 'great Eritrean national "refugee" racket' runs like this:

    Eritrean hustlers bumrush EU borders claiming to be running away from a repressive Marxist regime which imposes 20 year long compulsory military service upon men and women alike.
    Soft-headed soft-hearted soft-dicked EU judges and EU junta dictators fall for the scam. Thus, effectively, any Eritrean who gatecrashes the EU can stay basically forever - plus, eventually, bring the whole clan with them.

    Meanwhile, the Spanish government has summarily thrown Catalan political dissenters into jail for purely nonviolent political 'offences'.
    The f*cking EU, ever so vocal in loudly claiming its 'human rights' cooties is strangely silent.

    Replies: @Moshe, @Wilkey, @AndrewR, @Eagle Eye

    The Catalonians are pretty much pussies.

    They had a referendum.

    They had a vote in a plenary session.

    They declared independence.

    Then they did nothing.

    The popular separatist police chief resigned and the government, faced with nothing more than a non-serious arrest by Spain, sneaked across the border in a clown car to wah wah to mommy brussels.

    And the Catalonian people? Well, those who want (absolute) independence say that they now live in Independent Catalonia. Those who oppose independence (which includes almost all of the Laton Americans) say they are in Spain.

    And those with guns, in the employ of The People, also say that they are still Spanish.

    The most fanatical (normal) separatists sillently say that “we wait for the 21st of December”.

    A state born by of multiple declarations of independence will have a shameful glori-less tale to teach their progeny.

    It’s a shame, because I was really looking forward to the increased Proud Diversity of practice and culture that this would generate in Europe.

    Homage to Catalonia

    Dec 21

    • Replies: @Tom-in-VA
    @Moshe

    They’re transindependent. They don’t have any of the physical characteristics of independence, but they IDENTIFY as independent, that’s the important thing.

    Replies: @Moshe

    , @Jack D
    @Moshe

    The Catalans already went thru one murderous civil war in the last century. No one has any appetite for fighting another one. I think that they should be praised and not called "pussies" for not turning to violence as a first resort.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @DFH
    @Moshe

    What sort of weakling wouldn't want his family gangraped and murdered? Civil war is great fun, just ask a Serb/Croat!

  24. Moshe says:
    @MG
    The Art of Scamming and/or Gaming the American Immigration System is widely practiced all over the Third World. I would say the pace picked up around 1990. The only folks who seem to be unaware of these finagling schemes are the common American citizens. The American politicians are of course fully in the know but pretend not to know what they know.

    There was a consular officer who had once written a revealing account of his experiences as a visa officer at consular posts abroad (it must be somewhere on the web). As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA.

    Replies: @Nico, @Anonymous, @Moshe, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    This is indeed the case. I have investigated the subject.

    This means that the people we getting are not only the least scrupulous and greediest of their countrymen, but they will never be proud and honest Americans. They will always know that their American Rights were stolen rather than granted; that they are *using* us rather than gratefully *being* one of us.

  25. @ Steve Sailer – Clear, calm, insightful, even funny. Great. (Better than the “Spiegel” article, you make use of (and wich is not bad)).

  26. Massive amount of Eritreans in Sweden, or are they Ethiopian?

  27. @Anonymous
    @Erik Sieven

    They are better looking than Nigerian and Ghanaians too.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven, @Herzog

    not in the eyes of the average german women, for whom actually West Africans are the most attractive.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Erik Sieven

    There used to be a gorgeous Eritrean lady behind the counter of my local 24/7 store.
    Used to look forward to be 'served' by her.

    , @jtgw
    @Erik Sieven

    I think men and women look for different things in the opposite sex. Steve researched this a while ago for his article "Is love colorblind?"

    It makes sense that German women, or white women in general, prefer the robust and masculine West African man. The trouble is that their women are also robust and masculine, which men generally prefer less. The more gracile East African produces less attractive men (to women) but more attractive women (to men).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Erik Sieven

  28. @Moshe

    Similarly, lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran, which can be puzzling to the more true believer neocons.
     
    I spent some time with that community about 5 years ago and I don't remember this to be the case.

    I'm sure some went to visit but "lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran" is a really big claim.

    Are you confident that it's more than, say, 2 percent of them?

    And *annual*?

    And *vacation* rather than checking in with family in a perilous situation?

    And "home in Iran"?

    If you have more than some human interest piece from a reporter looking for attention I would be interested to know about it. Your claim does not appear to pass the sniff test.

    Replies: @Moses, @Faraday's Bobcat

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

    • Replies: @Moshe
    @Moses

    I'm sorry that you're stupid. It must be sad going through life knowing that you're dumb and knowing that everyone else also knows you're dumb. Have you considered making fries at burger king?

    Replies: @Moses

  29. @Altai

    An aid worker from Finland provides an answer:
     
    Has the reporter thought to ask the Eritreans? Many asylum frauds consider it all very funny and a game and assume the government must know they're lying. I'm sure many would admit the whole process if asked. And really those websites and message boards are all out there.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The ‘funny’ thing is that western ‘government officials’, politicians, journalists etc absolutely *do not* get that they are being gamed and conned.

    In fact, the more big and pompous and ‘high powered’ the western fool is, the more likely he is to be fooled by the lies.

  30. @Svigor

    Similarly, lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran, which can be puzzling to the more true believer neocons.
     
    And Jack D.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Jack D

    Funny, brief and spot-on: the quintessential I-Steve commentator reply!

  31. @Moses
    @Moshe

    Nothing to see here. Move along.

    Replies: @Moshe

    I’m sorry that you’re stupid. It must be sad going through life knowing that you’re dumb and knowing that everyone else also knows you’re dumb. Have you considered making fries at burger king?

    • Replies: @Moses
    @Moshe

    Ad hominem personal attack. Draw your own conclusions, readers.

  32. @Anonymous
    The 'great Eritrean national "refugee" racket' runs like this:

    Eritrean hustlers bumrush EU borders claiming to be running away from a repressive Marxist regime which imposes 20 year long compulsory military service upon men and women alike.
    Soft-headed soft-hearted soft-dicked EU judges and EU junta dictators fall for the scam. Thus, effectively, any Eritrean who gatecrashes the EU can stay basically forever - plus, eventually, bring the whole clan with them.

    Meanwhile, the Spanish government has summarily thrown Catalan political dissenters into jail for purely nonviolent political 'offences'.
    The f*cking EU, ever so vocal in loudly claiming its 'human rights' cooties is strangely silent.

    Replies: @Moshe, @Wilkey, @AndrewR, @Eagle Eye

    I’ve pointed this out more than once: the EU says it must absolutely protect the “rights” of lying SOB non-citizens from countries thousands of miles away to invade the EU by the millions, but it is more than happy to silence the very basic rights of Catalans whose families have lived in Catalonia for centuries or millenia to self-determination.

    If the Trump Administration had any common sense and really wanted to take on the globalists it would point out the hypocrisy inherent here.

    • Replies: @Fredrik
    @Wilkey

    What did you think would happen?

    Many EU-countries have their own separatist problems and don't need encouragement from Catalonia.

    Why do you think Spain never recognized Kosovo?

  33. Steve, thanks for sharing these observations and this synthesis. Too bad for our Republic that mainstream news organs find Putin’s $0.135 Million to be infinitely more worthy of airtime.

  34. @eah
    Of course the whole "refugee" thing is a scam, including the phony "charities" that resettle them using government money -- anyway, this reminded me of the "LOL" 'Canadians of convenience' farce, where large numbers of Lebanese Canadians living in Lebanon were evacuated during the 2006 Israeli invasion -- they had come to Canada earlier as "refugees", gotten Canadian citizenship, then moved back to Lebanon -- oftentimes they were getting Canadian welfare while living in Lebanon -- there were so many that it made the common lie they told that they just happened to be there on vacation when Israel invaded also "LOL" funny -- I still remember the fotos and video of them waving little Canadian flags as they stepped off Canadian Air Force planes back in Canada.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Big Bill, @Perspective

    “I still remember the fotos and video of them waving little Canadian flags as they stepped off Canadian Air Force planes back in Canada.”

    Interesting. I wonder who provided them with the flags? Sounds like the government was rather complicit in perpetuating a fraud upon the Canadian people. But then that’s part for the course with Western “democracies” these days.

    • Replies: @eah
    @Wilkey

    I wonder who provided them with the flags?

    No idea -- but would you really be surprised to learn Canadian officialdom was involved?

    http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/6418/885/400/canadianevacuees.jpg

    Something similar happened on a smaller scale in eg Germany:

    Refugees From Lebanon Arrive In Germany

    German nationals arrive at Franz-Josef Strauss Airport after disembarking a flight from Damasuscus in Syria arranged by the German Foreign Ministry on July 19, 2006 in Munich, Germany.

    https://s1.postimg.org/51cslbnstr/de_lebanon_2006.jpg

  35. Fascinating. So I suppose that if the Israeli government succeeds in dumping the Eritreans currently squatting in Tel Aviv on another African country, they’ll just make their way back to Eritrea?

  36. @Anonymous
    The 'great Eritrean national "refugee" racket' runs like this:

    Eritrean hustlers bumrush EU borders claiming to be running away from a repressive Marxist regime which imposes 20 year long compulsory military service upon men and women alike.
    Soft-headed soft-hearted soft-dicked EU judges and EU junta dictators fall for the scam. Thus, effectively, any Eritrean who gatecrashes the EU can stay basically forever - plus, eventually, bring the whole clan with them.

    Meanwhile, the Spanish government has summarily thrown Catalan political dissenters into jail for purely nonviolent political 'offences'.
    The f*cking EU, ever so vocal in loudly claiming its 'human rights' cooties is strangely silent.

    Replies: @Moshe, @Wilkey, @AndrewR, @Eagle Eye

    Catalonia has been a breeding pit for communism for generations. I don’t want them to have independence from Spain, which exercises a moderating effect on Catalan toxic leftism.

  37. “Plus, the government of Eritrea is not accommodating of letting foreign journalists visit Eritrea”

    Hey iSteve, Journalist Thomas Mountain (white guy / American) immigrated to Eritrea. Kudos to Thomas Mountain for beating the system and living in honor and dignity on a budget.

    Search on Thomas Mountain Eritrea.

    https://www.facebook.com/ThomasCMountain/
    https://twitter.com/thomascmountain?lang=en

    I like Black Agenda Report, but google does not seem to prioritize them

    https://www.blackagendareport.com/author/Thomas%20C.%20Mountain

    https://www.blackagendareport.com/us_plots_war_against_eritrea
    https://www.blackagendareport.com/eritrea_is_the_african_cuba

    Hey iSteve, is it possible the ‘white media’ has its own agenda?

    Chi-com media:
    Africa’s Cuba, Thomas Mountain reports on life in revolutionary Eritrea 170614

    He apparently also writes for white person type publication CounterPunch
    search on: thomas mountain counterpunch

    • Replies: @George
    @George

    Hey iSteve, Eritrea based journalist Thomas Mountain, who is an ole timey Red, thinks the anti Eritrea propaganda is because Eritrea became a state when they rebelled against Ethiopia. After WWII it appears the British set up Ethiopia as a pro west regional power. The Commie revolution in Eritrea put them perpetually on the Anglo S%%% list.

    Eritrea is not the North Korea of Africa, it is the Cuba of Africa. Both send migrants/refugees all over.

    , @Ivan K.
    @George

    Six days ago I forwarded this article to Thomas Mountain. Today morning he responded:


    thanks for the note, i dont usually use my yahoo account, best to contact me at txxxxx. gmail.com
    this article isnt so bad, lots of misinfo like everyone leaving is a refugee, total bullshit, lots of people leaving legally, and even if you do leave illegally, you wait 5 years, go to the embassy and sign your "i am sorry" papers and pay your 2% and return home no problem...
    best
    tom
     
    :)
  38. @George
    "Plus, the government of Eritrea is not accommodating of letting foreign journalists visit Eritrea"

    Hey iSteve, Journalist Thomas Mountain (white guy / American) immigrated to Eritrea. Kudos to Thomas Mountain for beating the system and living in honor and dignity on a budget.

    Search on Thomas Mountain Eritrea.

    https://www.facebook.com/ThomasCMountain/
    https://twitter.com/thomascmountain?lang=en

    I like Black Agenda Report, but google does not seem to prioritize them

    https://www.blackagendareport.com/author/Thomas%20C.%20Mountain

    https://www.blackagendareport.com/us_plots_war_against_eritrea
    https://www.blackagendareport.com/eritrea_is_the_african_cuba

    Hey iSteve, is it possible the 'white media' has its own agenda?

    Chi-com media:
    Africa's Cuba, Thomas Mountain reports on life in revolutionary Eritrea 170614
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyB2R_tj5r0

    He apparently also writes for white person type publication CounterPunch
    search on: thomas mountain counterpunch

    Replies: @George, @Ivan K.

    Hey iSteve, Eritrea based journalist Thomas Mountain, who is an ole timey Red, thinks the anti Eritrea propaganda is because Eritrea became a state when they rebelled against Ethiopia. After WWII it appears the British set up Ethiopia as a pro west regional power. The Commie revolution in Eritrea put them perpetually on the Anglo S%%% list.

    Eritrea is not the North Korea of Africa, it is the Cuba of Africa. Both send migrants/refugees all over.

  39. @Moshe
    @Anonymous

    The Catalonians are pretty much pussies.

    They had a referendum.

    They had a vote in a plenary session.

    They declared independence.

    Then they did nothing.

    The popular separatist police chief resigned and the government, faced with nothing more than a non-serious arrest by Spain, sneaked across the border in a clown car to wah wah to mommy brussels.

    And the Catalonian people? Well, those who want (absolute) independence say that they now live in Independent Catalonia. Those who oppose independence (which includes almost all of the Laton Americans) say they are in Spain.

    And those with guns, in the employ of The People, also say that they are still Spanish.

    The most fanatical (normal) separatists sillently say that "we wait for the 21st of December".

    A state born by of multiple declarations of independence will have a shameful glori-less tale to teach their progeny.

    It's a shame, because I was really looking forward to the increased Proud Diversity of practice and culture that this would generate in Europe.

    Homage to Catalonia












    Dec 21

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA, @Jack D, @DFH

    They’re transindependent. They don’t have any of the physical characteristics of independence, but they IDENTIFY as independent, that’s the important thing.

    • Replies: @Moshe
    @Tom-in-VA

    Chuckled out loud.

    You encapsulated the subject perfectly.

    Still chuckling

  40. Eritreans/Ethiopians also dominate the parking attendant/parking deck operations racket here in Atlanta.

    I’m not sure which one it is, but they all have that telltale East African look like Haile Selaissie, with the large forehead and narrow, Euro-like nose.

  41. @anony-mouse
    North Korea is the world's first Communist monarchy. Gives paleos here cognitive dissonance?

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Nico, @Samuel Skinner

    It evolves into Neo-Reaction. ‘The problem with North Korea is that it is not total enough- power is insecure. If the Kim family had even more power and didn’t have to be overthrown, that would be closer to our vision of an ideal society’.

  42. @Wilkey
    @eah

    "I still remember the fotos and video of them waving little Canadian flags as they stepped off Canadian Air Force planes back in Canada."

    Interesting. I wonder who provided them with the flags? Sounds like the government was rather complicit in perpetuating a fraud upon the Canadian people. But then that's part for the course with Western "democracies" these days.

    Replies: @eah

    I wonder who provided them with the flags?

    No idea — but would you really be surprised to learn Canadian officialdom was involved?

    Something similar happened on a smaller scale in eg Germany:

    Refugees From Lebanon Arrive In Germany

    German nationals arrive at Franz-Josef Strauss Airport after disembarking a flight from Damasuscus in Syria arranged by the German Foreign Ministry on July 19, 2006 in Munich, Germany.

  43. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    For some insights about Eritrea and Eritrean character your readers might be interested in the Eritrean-Ethiopian Wars. The War Nerd (aka John Dolan) has provided a lively and maybe insightful discussion of Eritrean character and their fighting characteristics.

    Replies: @DFH

    I always really liked Dolan’s literary criticism as well, shame he’s a British-hating taig

    http://www.podbean.com/media/share/dir-yzyuk-2590b7f

  44. @Altai
    My uncle used to deal with asylum cases. He told me that at one point so many Sudanese would pretend to be Christian on the basis of the typical discrimination against Christians in Sudan.

    He could tell by visual inspection that they weren't fully Bantu and thus likely ethnically Sudanese and unlikely to be Christian. But he couldn't note such a thing in an assessment so he then proceeded to ask them very simple questions about Christianity that even somebody with no theological interest but from a Christian community, would know. They could never answer even simple questions. They didn't even bother looking any of it up.

    There is no individual effort in asylum seeking since the internet became widespread. That Sudanese guy my uncle spoke to hadn't thought this Christian gambit on his own, if he had he'd have looked into it. Every step, every lie is on a printout they got from the internet. The sites tell them what they're entitled to and even how to scam more welfare. What the welfare is in each country along with how easy it is to get asylum in each country. This is the primary factor for the explosion in such behaviour since the early 2000s. The worst example were the near constant flow of South Asian 'Syrians' getting off the trains in Germany or maybe the 6'3 pale-skinned, light eyed Albanian 'Syrians' I saw walking into Sweden. Of course, most of the asylum seekers from countries at war were not in danger when they made their way to Europe in the past either, nor did they ever come home when the wars ended.

    The early waves in the 90s from Somali and the Balkans may have led to the first industrial gaming of the system. Ali Hirsi once admitted that she and her family lied to gain asylum in the Netherlands. As, I expect, did Zlatan in Sweden, but hey, he turned out to be good at football so only all his relatives are violent criminals and not him too.

    The constitution of the Republic of Ireland was changed because of this, removing birth-right citizenship from individuals without the right of permanent residency after thousands of pregnant Nigerian women flooded the main maternity ward after this fact was discovered and disseminated over the internet. Virtually all of the Nigerian immigration to Europe is based on blatant asylum fraud.

    The Eritrean pretending to be Ethiopian is another oldie but a goodie because a Western official has no way of being able to tell them apart.

    Replies: @Expletive Deleted

    Here’s a sound if slightly distasteful rule-of-thumb. “Virtually all of the Nigerian immigration to activity in Europe is based on blatant asylum fraud. ”
    You can bet your lottery win/inheritance on it.

  45. @Moshe
    @Anonymous

    The Catalonians are pretty much pussies.

    They had a referendum.

    They had a vote in a plenary session.

    They declared independence.

    Then they did nothing.

    The popular separatist police chief resigned and the government, faced with nothing more than a non-serious arrest by Spain, sneaked across the border in a clown car to wah wah to mommy brussels.

    And the Catalonian people? Well, those who want (absolute) independence say that they now live in Independent Catalonia. Those who oppose independence (which includes almost all of the Laton Americans) say they are in Spain.

    And those with guns, in the employ of The People, also say that they are still Spanish.

    The most fanatical (normal) separatists sillently say that "we wait for the 21st of December".

    A state born by of multiple declarations of independence will have a shameful glori-less tale to teach their progeny.

    It's a shame, because I was really looking forward to the increased Proud Diversity of practice and culture that this would generate in Europe.

    Homage to Catalonia












    Dec 21

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA, @Jack D, @DFH

    The Catalans already went thru one murderous civil war in the last century. No one has any appetite for fighting another one. I think that they should be praised and not called “pussies” for not turning to violence as a first resort.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @Jack D

    If they're not willing to defend the rights they believe they have, those rights aren't so.

    Why should Spain cater to their whims just because they pout a lot?

  46. @Moshe

    Similarly, lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran, which can be puzzling to the more true believer neocons.
     
    I spent some time with that community about 5 years ago and I don't remember this to be the case.

    I'm sure some went to visit but "lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran" is a really big claim.

    Are you confident that it's more than, say, 2 percent of them?

    And *annual*?

    And *vacation* rather than checking in with family in a perilous situation?

    And "home in Iran"?

    If you have more than some human interest piece from a reporter looking for attention I would be interested to know about it. Your claim does not appear to pass the sniff test.

    Replies: @Moses, @Faraday's Bobcat

    I can’t speak to the Persian Jews, but my wife’s grandfather got a green card as a refugee from a certain Asian country 25 years ago, and though nothing about the country has changed since then, he’s currently in said country on a six-month visit. As a bonus, he’s been drawing SSI since he got off the plane back in the early 90s. If he can do it, the Persian Jews can.

    • Replies: @Moshe
    @Faraday's Bobcat

    I can't speak to your in-law's situation but Persian Jews who might return to see remaining family run a great deal of danger there. More than I or you would.

    Americans don't get to explore Iran generally but dual-citizens (and can one relinquish Iranian citizenship?) are the ones in real danger.

    And being Jewish doesn't help.

    That's why I expressed such bafflement above.

    Steve is usually sensible. He also has the benefit of living in LA. So if what he said is accurate (plenty...annual...vacation...home...) I am definitely interested in knowing that!

  47. @Svigor

    Similarly, lots of Persian Jews in Beverly Hills take annual vacations back home in Iran, which can be puzzling to the more true believer neocons.
     
    And Jack D.

    Replies: @Paul Jolliffe, @Jack D

    I take annual vacations in Iran?

    I did visit my ancestral shtetls once a few years ago. Everyone was very nice but it was more than a little creepy. The topper was when I asked where all the gravestones were from the Jewish cemetery (since they were not in the cemetery). They told me that they had used them to pave the cow barn in the collective farm. The whole place was like one big cemetery to me – just full of ghosts.

  48. Europeans never should’ve left their colonies. They all would’ve been better run today. Blacks and browns just can’t run countries. You need at least a 100 IQ, not 65. Now all the formerly colonized are running to white countries so they can be ruled by whites again.

    The only way for white countries to survive is to take over all black and brown countries and run them, for a fee.

  49. @Erik Sieven
    @Anonymous

    not in the eyes of the average german women, for whom actually West Africans are the most attractive.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @jtgw

    There used to be a gorgeous Eritrean lady behind the counter of my local 24/7 store.
    Used to look forward to be ‘served’ by her.

  50. @MG
    The Art of Scamming and/or Gaming the American Immigration System is widely practiced all over the Third World. I would say the pace picked up around 1990. The only folks who seem to be unaware of these finagling schemes are the common American citizens. The American politicians are of course fully in the know but pretend not to know what they know.

    There was a consular officer who had once written a revealing account of his experiences as a visa officer at consular posts abroad (it must be somewhere on the web). As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA.

    Replies: @Nico, @Anonymous, @Moshe, @Jim Bob Lassiter

    “As I recall, he wrote that the majority of the consular staff at our posts are more sympathetic to these aliens than they are to the interests of the USA.”

    How true. I have conducted minor consulate business as a founding stock US by birth citizen tourist and temporary resident in several Latin American countries and Spain.

    Almost invariably the people I dealt with were surly, inflexible and down right nasty host county nationals. It was about like going down to the local office of the cable/ISP company to dispute a bill.

  51. It would be terrible if more Eritrean women came to America, right?

    • Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @prosa123

    Maybe, maybe not. It's still silly of you to use Trump beauty pageant criteria to admit more Third Worlders to the US. Besides, they're not all pretty little chocolate drops.

    Image result for Eritrean women

    Image result for Eritrean women

    , @Big Bill
    @prosa123

    Good point! They are beautiful, aren't they? Not so bright, of course, but one can't have everything. So let's have a "hot chick" work visa that lets them come here and work as hot chicks. No birthright citizenship for their kids, and they can go back to Africa when their contract is up.

    We would also have to eliminate the "free green card if you claim to be abused in America" scam that the feminists got the government to approve.

    Replies: @Logan

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @prosa123

    Feel free to have at them. In Eritrea.

    We do not need ANY ANY ANY more immigrants/refugees/H1-*, etc. of ANY ANY ANY kind from ANY ANY ANY country for at at least 5 years.

    , @Dieter Kief
    @prosa123

    I agree. I would not necessarily want that those women on your picture came to the US - especially the left one.
    (Ah, in case you wondered: I don't live there either, I should admit).

    , @CK
    @prosa123

    Such perfect teeth. Eritrean dentistry must be among the world's best kept secrets.

  52. @prosa123
    It would be terrible if more Eritrean women came to America, right?

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/34/3c/25/343c2578ff0110a5cf84fbf82f1f995b--eritrean-red-sea.jpg

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Big Bill, @Jim Don Bob, @Dieter Kief, @CK

    Maybe, maybe not. It’s still silly of you to use Trump beauty pageant criteria to admit more Third Worlders to the US. Besides, they’re not all pretty little chocolate drops.

    Image result for Eritrean women

    Image result for Eritrean women

  53. Being an Eritrean in Europe I would add this to the discussion:

    -Broadly speaking Eritrea has enough competence and social trust to run the state effectively and potentially a good society(by African standards). The president gets that diversity+democracy=conflict but he hasn’t been able to proceed from that. The only alternative in his eyes is democracy which will inevitably bring forth ethnic divisions that have been effectively plastered over with extreme Eritrean nationalism for at least 3 decades.

    Does the regime intentionally allow people to flee for remittances?
    I had never considered this before until now but I doubt it. The leaders believe a lot in national unity and they expect expatriates to give full support both monetarily and ideologically. This isn’t like what Mexican elites are doing. People who attempt to flee get jailed, sometimes indefinitely. Numerous times the football team players have defected when playing in other countries. The border is militarised. And in the diaspora many “patriotic” Eritreans who fled from the independence war curse the refugees as being disgraceful for slamming the country in public and fleeing in the first place because “things are great”. I think the government want the people to stay but if they leave then they will gladly take all the remittances they can.

    So how bad is it?
    The Danish government had their own scandal 2 years ago when it came out that they had made a report that conditions were fine with no need for granting asylum. This naturally angered the HR activists+media+leftists and afterwards the current immigration skeptic government that Steve often praises, folded and started giving out asylums without protest. As so often now EU reports are coming to the same conclusions that Switzerland and Steve have.

    The comparison made in the article between Eritrea and Cuba is quite apt.

  54. @Moshe
    @Anonymous

    The Catalonians are pretty much pussies.

    They had a referendum.

    They had a vote in a plenary session.

    They declared independence.

    Then they did nothing.

    The popular separatist police chief resigned and the government, faced with nothing more than a non-serious arrest by Spain, sneaked across the border in a clown car to wah wah to mommy brussels.

    And the Catalonian people? Well, those who want (absolute) independence say that they now live in Independent Catalonia. Those who oppose independence (which includes almost all of the Laton Americans) say they are in Spain.

    And those with guns, in the employ of The People, also say that they are still Spanish.

    The most fanatical (normal) separatists sillently say that "we wait for the 21st of December".

    A state born by of multiple declarations of independence will have a shameful glori-less tale to teach their progeny.

    It's a shame, because I was really looking forward to the increased Proud Diversity of practice and culture that this would generate in Europe.

    Homage to Catalonia












    Dec 21

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA, @Jack D, @DFH

    What sort of weakling wouldn’t want his family gangraped and murdered? Civil war is great fun, just ask a Serb/Croat!

  55. @eah
    Of course the whole "refugee" thing is a scam, including the phony "charities" that resettle them using government money -- anyway, this reminded me of the "LOL" 'Canadians of convenience' farce, where large numbers of Lebanese Canadians living in Lebanon were evacuated during the 2006 Israeli invasion -- they had come to Canada earlier as "refugees", gotten Canadian citizenship, then moved back to Lebanon -- oftentimes they were getting Canadian welfare while living in Lebanon -- there were so many that it made the common lie they told that they just happened to be there on vacation when Israel invaded also "LOL" funny -- I still remember the fotos and video of them waving little Canadian flags as they stepped off Canadian Air Force planes back in Canada.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Big Bill, @Perspective

    It sounds like the Indian (dot) welfare scam. Pajeet converts his H1B visa to a green card, brings his elderly parents over from Bangalore to “reunite” his family, signs them up for SSDI, then sends them home to India to live out their dotage with a US welfare check. Pretty good deal.

    • Replies: @eah
    @Big Bill

    The Chinese do that too -- Norm Matloff wrote about it (search it) -- I once sat listening to the immigrant Chinese guy (Taiwan) in the next cubicle calling about SSI for his parents -- most Asian immigrants know that playbook.

  56. @prosa123
    It would be terrible if more Eritrean women came to America, right?

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/34/3c/25/343c2578ff0110a5cf84fbf82f1f995b--eritrean-red-sea.jpg

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Big Bill, @Jim Don Bob, @Dieter Kief, @CK

    Good point! They are beautiful, aren’t they? Not so bright, of course, but one can’t have everything. So let’s have a “hot chick” work visa that lets them come here and work as hot chicks. No birthright citizenship for their kids, and they can go back to Africa when their contract is up.

    We would also have to eliminate the “free green card if you claim to be abused in America” scam that the feminists got the government to approve.

    • Replies: @Logan
    @Big Bill

    Eritrea is tied with Cua at 85 IQ.

  57. @Anonymous
    @MG

    To be perfectly honest *all* third world immigration into the west is just a scam whether it's 'gamed' or not.

    The evidence that it is economically ruinous to the dupe country is overwhelming and incontestable.
    The only real question is whether the immigrationists are merely fools or just plain liars.

    Replies: @Big Bill

    Forty years ago, when a US merchant ship docked in New York after a foreign voyage, Immigration or Customs would check everyone’s ID. Stowaways were arrested, and the shipping company was responsible for their care and maintenance and for returning them home. Simple.

    Thirty years ago, Prof. Lawrence Tribe taught my Con Law class how to work the refugee scam. Don’t stow away. Get a visitors visa to the US, board a plane, then destroy ALL your identity papers and plane ticket en route. On arrival, go straight to Customs and demand asylum, claiming to be from some recognized war-torn country. US officials will give you a Notice to Appear (it might take years) and turn you loose to wander around the US. The airlines have no responsibility.

  58. And of course the “scam” is compounded by the fact that Eritrea collects a “diaspora tax” on its nonresident citizens. (The only other country with such a “diaspora tax” of course being the US of A).

  59. has some of the wildest 1930s Italian architecture in the world.

    If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I’d buy some of these small defunct gas station buildings that were built in the 20’s and 30’s. They’re disappearing fast and hard to find, but a few still exist. They have a few deco and art moderne elements built into their themes. I see them standing vacant in small dusty towns, but there’s one in my city that’s just being used for storage by someone. The coolest thing about it is that it’s kind of hidden in what we would consider today a residential area. I guess the quiet street that it’s on was considered busy back in the day.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @J1234

    The ones still standing are usually still there, and property of the city, for a good reason-there are buried fuel tanks that have contaminated the ground and were abandoned by bankruptcy or sometimes the owners just vanished to avoid the liability. The cleanup bill, which you instantly are presented with if you buy the property, can exceed the value of the real estate by a lot.

    Replies: @J1234

  60. @prosa123
    It would be terrible if more Eritrean women came to America, right?

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/34/3c/25/343c2578ff0110a5cf84fbf82f1f995b--eritrean-red-sea.jpg

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Big Bill, @Jim Don Bob, @Dieter Kief, @CK

    Feel free to have at them. In Eritrea.

    We do not need ANY ANY ANY more immigrants/refugees/H1-*, etc. of ANY ANY ANY kind from ANY ANY ANY country for at at least 5 years.

  61. @prosa123
    It would be terrible if more Eritrean women came to America, right?

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/34/3c/25/343c2578ff0110a5cf84fbf82f1f995b--eritrean-red-sea.jpg

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Big Bill, @Jim Don Bob, @Dieter Kief, @CK

    I agree. I would not necessarily want that those women on your picture came to the US – especially the left one.
    (Ah, in case you wondered: I don’t live there either, I should admit).

  62. @Erik Sieven
    @Anonymous

    not in the eyes of the average german women, for whom actually West Africans are the most attractive.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @jtgw

    I think men and women look for different things in the opposite sex. Steve researched this a while ago for his article “Is love colorblind?”

    It makes sense that German women, or white women in general, prefer the robust and masculine West African man. The trouble is that their women are also robust and masculine, which men generally prefer less. The more gracile East African produces less attractive men (to women) but more attractive women (to men).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @jtgw

    I'm a white guy who has never had any enormous affinity for African women from any direction... but.. I do like women... and I do notice that when I have noticed an attraction to African women with west African features, their emotional warmth has been a major element. When they like you, they do seem to like you. And when they like me, I tend to like them in return. Life is complex like that.

    Replies: @jtgw

    , @Erik Sieven
    @jtgw

    "The trouble is that their women are also robust and masculine, which men generally prefer less"
    While being unattractive might mean "having no children" for males it is much less severe for females. Makes life less funny than being a Super Model, but no big deal. A normal life is absolutely possible. So overall it is better to come from a family (or bigger ancestral group of people, like a "race") with attractive males and unattractive females than the other way round.

    Replies: @jtgw

  63. @prosa123
    It would be terrible if more Eritrean women came to America, right?

    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/34/3c/25/343c2578ff0110a5cf84fbf82f1f995b--eritrean-red-sea.jpg

    Replies: @Jim Bob Lassiter, @Big Bill, @Jim Don Bob, @Dieter Kief, @CK

    Such perfect teeth. Eritrean dentistry must be among the world’s best kept secrets.

  64. @Jack D
    @Moshe

    The Catalans already went thru one murderous civil war in the last century. No one has any appetite for fighting another one. I think that they should be praised and not called "pussies" for not turning to violence as a first resort.

    Replies: @Anon

    If they’re not willing to defend the rights they believe they have, those rights aren’t so.

    Why should Spain cater to their whims just because they pout a lot?

  65. @Wilkey
    @Anonymous

    I've pointed this out more than once: the EU says it must absolutely protect the "rights" of lying SOB non-citizens from countries thousands of miles away to invade the EU by the millions, but it is more than happy to silence the very basic rights of Catalans whose families have lived in Catalonia for centuries or millenia to self-determination.

    If the Trump Administration had any common sense and really wanted to take on the globalists it would point out the hypocrisy inherent here.

    Replies: @Fredrik

    What did you think would happen?

    Many EU-countries have their own separatist problems and don’t need encouragement from Catalonia.

    Why do you think Spain never recognized Kosovo?

  66. @Big Bill
    @eah

    It sounds like the Indian (dot) welfare scam. Pajeet converts his H1B visa to a green card, brings his elderly parents over from Bangalore to "reunite" his family, signs them up for SSDI, then sends them home to India to live out their dotage with a US welfare check. Pretty good deal.

    Replies: @eah

    The Chinese do that too — Norm Matloff wrote about it (search it) — I once sat listening to the immigrant Chinese guy (Taiwan) in the next cubicle calling about SSI for his parents — most Asian immigrants know that playbook.

  67. in Asmara at 7,600 feet elevation

    Imagine if Denver were 2,000 feet higher, and sixty miles from the sea. Must be a fun trip down those roads. Or rivers.

    As with much of Africa, the Moslems have the best beachfront property. And refuse to use it.

    Eritrea is one of the last Bonapartist-Nasserite regimes run by secular modernizing military men.

    Wouldn’t “Kemalist” be just as appropriate?

    Speaking of secular modernizing, who’s the joker who arranged that this year’s Guy Fawkes Day be 25 hours long?

  68. @Anonymous
    @Erik Sieven

    They are better looking than Nigerian and Ghanaians too.

    Replies: @Erik Sieven, @Herzog

    Especially the women (a few of them are coming too).

    Having said this, not all is peaches and cream with the Eritrean migrants either. There was a famous case here in Germany, shortly after Madam Merkel started the whole mess in 2015, where an Eritrean was murdered in Dresden, home of Pegida. Of course the entire Cathedral media machine tried to lay the crime at the feet of Pegida, at least morally. As things turned out, the guy had been stabbed to death by another Eritrean.

    Still, they don’t seem to be as aggressive and harrassive (I know it’s probably not a word — but perhaps it should be?) as the Arabs and Afghans.

  69. Anonymous [AKA "Du Dumme Sau"] says:
    @Erik Sieven
    Eritreans seem to be very unremarkable people. I personally have no problem with some hundred thousands refugees from there in Germany. Better not to have them, but still no big deal. At least I´d better have 100.000 people from Eritrea than 10.000 people from Ghana or Nigeria.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Perspective

    This is, in a nutshell, the vast, bottomless stupidity of the average German-Western ruminant – so called “gutmensch” in Germany – perpetual Merkel-greens-SPD voter, framed candidly in a poignant internet comment:

    She does not mind having “a few hundred thousands” Eritreans, no big deal. Better few hundred thousands Erithreans than 10k Ghanaians or Nigerians, puzzlingly adds, without further clarification, though we cannot help but suspect he would not mind a few hundred thousand of each African country either, plus some hundred thousand from Afghanistan, Pakistan, Chechnya, Haiti and from some two dozen third world shitholes more for good measure.

    No big deal, says the tasty calf.

    It is, you moron.

  70. @Erik Sieven
    Eritreans seem to be very unremarkable people. I personally have no problem with some hundred thousands refugees from there in Germany. Better not to have them, but still no big deal. At least I´d better have 100.000 people from Eritrea than 10.000 people from Ghana or Nigeria.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Perspective

    People keep conjuring up these surreal hypothetical fantasies that the serfs have been offered a choice between accepting group A or group B. Please do yourself a favour and disabuse yourself of this notion immediately. We have not been offered a choice, nor is one forthcoming any time soon. Just say no to all the above.

    • Replies: @Moshe
    @Perspective

    Correct.

    My only exceptions would be for doctors and well behaved single women under 30.

    The more of those 2 categories the better. From anywhere.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

  71. @eah
    Of course the whole "refugee" thing is a scam, including the phony "charities" that resettle them using government money -- anyway, this reminded me of the "LOL" 'Canadians of convenience' farce, where large numbers of Lebanese Canadians living in Lebanon were evacuated during the 2006 Israeli invasion -- they had come to Canada earlier as "refugees", gotten Canadian citizenship, then moved back to Lebanon -- oftentimes they were getting Canadian welfare while living in Lebanon -- there were so many that it made the common lie they told that they just happened to be there on vacation when Israel invaded also "LOL" funny -- I still remember the fotos and video of them waving little Canadian flags as they stepped off Canadian Air Force planes back in Canada.

    Replies: @Wilkey, @Big Bill, @Perspective

    Not surprising. I was told by a Pakistani colleague that many of his fellow countrymen will immigrate, usually under the merit based economic category I might add, to Canada for the purposes of taking out a massive line of credit loan from banks that offer special getting started programs to “new Canadians”. They will then max out the line of the credit then subsequently hightail back to Pakistan under a new identity.

  72. @Tom-in-VA
    @Moshe

    They’re transindependent. They don’t have any of the physical characteristics of independence, but they IDENTIFY as independent, that’s the important thing.

    Replies: @Moshe

    Chuckled out loud.

    You encapsulated the subject perfectly.

    Still chuckling

  73. Moshe says:
    @Faraday's Bobcat
    @Moshe

    I can't speak to the Persian Jews, but my wife's grandfather got a green card as a refugee from a certain Asian country 25 years ago, and though nothing about the country has changed since then, he's currently in said country on a six-month visit. As a bonus, he's been drawing SSI since he got off the plane back in the early 90s. If he can do it, the Persian Jews can.

    Replies: @Moshe

    I can’t speak to your in-law’s situation but Persian Jews who might return to see remaining family run a great deal of danger there. More than I or you would.

    Americans don’t get to explore Iran generally but dual-citizens (and can one relinquish Iranian citizenship?) are the ones in real danger.

    And being Jewish doesn’t help.

    That’s why I expressed such bafflement above.

    Steve is usually sensible. He also has the benefit of living in LA. So if what he said is accurate (plenty…annual…vacation…home…) I am definitely interested in knowing that!

  74. @Perspective
    @Erik Sieven

    People keep conjuring up these surreal hypothetical fantasies that the serfs have been offered a choice between accepting group A or group B. Please do yourself a favour and disabuse yourself of this notion immediately. We have not been offered a choice, nor is one forthcoming any time soon. Just say no to all the above.

    Replies: @Moshe

    Correct.

    My only exceptions would be for doctors and well behaved single women under 30.

    The more of those 2 categories the better. From anywhere.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Moshe

    Moshe:

    Well behaved single women under thirty: Yes.

    Doctors: No.

    This country is hooked on immigrant doctors due to the nefarious AMA which keeps American medical schools graduation rates at anemic levels.

  75. @Moshe
    @Perspective

    Correct.

    My only exceptions would be for doctors and well behaved single women under 30.

    The more of those 2 categories the better. From anywhere.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    Moshe:

    Well behaved single women under thirty: Yes.

    Doctors: No.

    This country is hooked on immigrant doctors due to the nefarious AMA which keeps American medical schools graduation rates at anemic levels.

  76. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @anony-mouse

    Juche gotta be kidding.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Ha ha!

  77. @Anonymous
    The 'great Eritrean national "refugee" racket' runs like this:

    Eritrean hustlers bumrush EU borders claiming to be running away from a repressive Marxist regime which imposes 20 year long compulsory military service upon men and women alike.
    Soft-headed soft-hearted soft-dicked EU judges and EU junta dictators fall for the scam. Thus, effectively, any Eritrean who gatecrashes the EU can stay basically forever - plus, eventually, bring the whole clan with them.

    Meanwhile, the Spanish government has summarily thrown Catalan political dissenters into jail for purely nonviolent political 'offences'.
    The f*cking EU, ever so vocal in loudly claiming its 'human rights' cooties is strangely silent.

    Replies: @Moshe, @Wilkey, @AndrewR, @Eagle Eye

    SoftHard-headed softhardhearted soft-dicked EU judges and EU junta dictators fall for actively enable the scam.

  78. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous


    the former North Korean deputy ambassador in London told Congress that his former master was literally the worst regime in the history of the world, and I don’t think he was trying to exaggerate
     
    Regardless, it’s obviously a hyperbole. I mean, Maoist China? Khmer Rogue Cambodia? The Stalinist USSR or Nazi Germany are not directly comparable, but are also recent contenders for the “worst regime ever” title for a number of reasons.

    For all I know, the North Korean regime is quite bad, but probably there’s a lot of exaggeration going on.

    Replies: @Not Raul, @Anonymous

    (same Anon as above)

    I don’t think it is hyperbole, although I do think you are raising good points.

    The NK defector was making the point that NK citizens are told they live in the greatest regime ever, while it is in fact the worst. In my view, this is far closer to being true than to being false.

    As for the Guardian, this strikes me, in part, as a mainstream “leftist” attempt to minimize the atrocities of overtly “leftist” regimes. It doesn’t matter if NK has very little “objective” affinity with leftist ideals, since it identifies as “communist”. This strikes me as akin to Chomksy’s attempt to minimize the Khmer Rouge atrocities. (And I think Chomsky is a smart guy, sometimes even when it comes to politics…)

    Apart from living under ISIS, which seems (if I should believe the media) to have been mostly destroyed as a functioning state, NK seems by far to be the worst existing “state”. Just speaking for myself, I’d probably choose to live under Hitler or Stalin (and I’d be at great risk), but I’d probably choose NK over Pol Pot.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @Anonymous

    "Living under regime X" is always a bit abstract. For example I'm smarter than the average cookie, and in North Korea apparently in recent years smart people are getting more and more chances of studying and even receiving grants to study abroad. There's a growing (though still small) entrepreneurial middle class, who can afford smartphones and scooters (and some of them even cars), it's impossible that I'd be a member of it, for example. Or a member of the government bureaucracy, which is great, though a bit rigid for my taste. It'd be difficult to participate in the ridiculous Kim-worship (but maybe not if I grew up with it), but who knows, perhaps I'd get used to it until I wouldn't even notice it.

    Now, for example, if I were a woman, I would prefer North Korea over many Muslim countries, perhaps the majority of them. Perhaps even for guys, countries like Pakistan might be worse than North Korea. African countries are poorer and people are more idiotic, so maybe I'd prefer to live among North Koreans.

    But who knows?

  79. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @jtgw
    @Erik Sieven

    I think men and women look for different things in the opposite sex. Steve researched this a while ago for his article "Is love colorblind?"

    It makes sense that German women, or white women in general, prefer the robust and masculine West African man. The trouble is that their women are also robust and masculine, which men generally prefer less. The more gracile East African produces less attractive men (to women) but more attractive women (to men).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Erik Sieven

    I’m a white guy who has never had any enormous affinity for African women from any direction… but.. I do like women… and I do notice that when I have noticed an attraction to African women with west African features, their emotional warmth has been a major element. When they like you, they do seem to like you. And when they like me, I tend to like them in return. Life is complex like that.

    • Replies: @jtgw
    @Anonymous

    I'm not denying your own preferences or experiences. But you do have to ask yourself why, for example, interracial couples involving black men and white women significantly outnumber couples with black women and white men. The same goes for Asian women and white men versus Asian men and white women. I find it persuasive that men and women of all races are attracted to broadly the same set of traits in the opposite sex, and that such traits are unevenly distributed across the races. West African blacks occupy one, masculine extreme, while East Asians occupy another, feminine extreme.

  80. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @J1234

    has some of the wildest 1930s Italian architecture in the world.
     
    If I had more money than I knew what to do with, I'd buy some of these small defunct gas station buildings that were built in the 20's and 30's. They're disappearing fast and hard to find, but a few still exist. They have a few deco and art moderne elements built into their themes. I see them standing vacant in small dusty towns, but there's one in my city that's just being used for storage by someone. The coolest thing about it is that it's kind of hidden in what we would consider today a residential area. I guess the quiet street that it's on was considered busy back in the day.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The ones still standing are usually still there, and property of the city, for a good reason-there are buried fuel tanks that have contaminated the ground and were abandoned by bankruptcy or sometimes the owners just vanished to avoid the liability. The cleanup bill, which you instantly are presented with if you buy the property, can exceed the value of the real estate by a lot.

    • Replies: @J1234
    @Anonymous

    That's true, you have to have the tanks removed and pay for cleanup. That happened to a guy I know who had such a property. Interesting, though - I still see lots of former gas station buildings that have been converted to other uses, such as car detailing or construction contracting, but they aren't the cool old buildings from the 20's or 30's.

  81. @Moshe
    @Moses

    I'm sorry that you're stupid. It must be sad going through life knowing that you're dumb and knowing that everyone else also knows you're dumb. Have you considered making fries at burger king?

    Replies: @Moses

    Ad hominem personal attack. Draw your own conclusions, readers.

  82. @Big Bill
    @prosa123

    Good point! They are beautiful, aren't they? Not so bright, of course, but one can't have everything. So let's have a "hot chick" work visa that lets them come here and work as hot chicks. No birthright citizenship for their kids, and they can go back to Africa when their contract is up.

    We would also have to eliminate the "free green card if you claim to be abused in America" scam that the feminists got the government to approve.

    Replies: @Logan

    Eritrea is tied with Cua at 85 IQ.

  83. People should keep in mind “Der Spiegel” is the least credible piece of trash possible and more or less a three letter agency scam.
    And on top of that part of the German state media complex.

    http://www.danisch.de/blog/2017/11/05/retter-schlepper-geldverschieber/

    So I’d take their stories with a big grain of salt.

  84. @Anonymous
    @jtgw

    I'm a white guy who has never had any enormous affinity for African women from any direction... but.. I do like women... and I do notice that when I have noticed an attraction to African women with west African features, their emotional warmth has been a major element. When they like you, they do seem to like you. And when they like me, I tend to like them in return. Life is complex like that.

    Replies: @jtgw

    I’m not denying your own preferences or experiences. But you do have to ask yourself why, for example, interracial couples involving black men and white women significantly outnumber couples with black women and white men. The same goes for Asian women and white men versus Asian men and white women. I find it persuasive that men and women of all races are attracted to broadly the same set of traits in the opposite sex, and that such traits are unevenly distributed across the races. West African blacks occupy one, masculine extreme, while East Asians occupy another, feminine extreme.

  85. Anyway, it’s in the interest of both the regime and the emigres for stories to circulate about how horrible things are back in Eritrea so the Eritreans get refugee status and can send money home.

    Nothing new here. Eric Barker reports in Barking Up the Wrong Tree on a researcher finding that there has never been a documented case of a pirate making someone “walk the plank”.

    But the pirates wanted you to believe it. It made their job easier.

    And the pirate life was already way better than what the Royal Navy had to offer. Hence, impressment.

    (Churchill admitted that it wasn’t him who said “rum, sodomy, and the lash”, but he wished it was.)

  86. @Anonymous
    @reiner Tor

    (same Anon as above)

    I don't think it is hyperbole, although I do think you are raising good points.

    The NK defector was making the point that NK citizens are told they live in the greatest regime ever, while it is in fact the worst. In my view, this is far closer to being true than to being false.

    As for the Guardian, this strikes me, in part, as a mainstream "leftist" attempt to minimize the atrocities of overtly "leftist" regimes. It doesn't matter if NK has very little "objective" affinity with leftist ideals, since it identifies as "communist". This strikes me as akin to Chomksy's attempt to minimize the Khmer Rouge atrocities. (And I think Chomsky is a smart guy, sometimes even when it comes to politics...)

    Apart from living under ISIS, which seems (if I should believe the media) to have been mostly destroyed as a functioning state, NK seems by far to be the worst existing "state". Just speaking for myself, I'd probably choose to live under Hitler or Stalin (and I'd be at great risk), but I'd probably choose NK over Pol Pot.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    “Living under regime X” is always a bit abstract. For example I’m smarter than the average cookie, and in North Korea apparently in recent years smart people are getting more and more chances of studying and even receiving grants to study abroad. There’s a growing (though still small) entrepreneurial middle class, who can afford smartphones and scooters (and some of them even cars), it’s impossible that I’d be a member of it, for example. Or a member of the government bureaucracy, which is great, though a bit rigid for my taste. It’d be difficult to participate in the ridiculous Kim-worship (but maybe not if I grew up with it), but who knows, perhaps I’d get used to it until I wouldn’t even notice it.

    Now, for example, if I were a woman, I would prefer North Korea over many Muslim countries, perhaps the majority of them. Perhaps even for guys, countries like Pakistan might be worse than North Korea. African countries are poorer and people are more idiotic, so maybe I’d prefer to live among North Koreans.

    But who knows?

  87. @Anonymous
    @J1234

    The ones still standing are usually still there, and property of the city, for a good reason-there are buried fuel tanks that have contaminated the ground and were abandoned by bankruptcy or sometimes the owners just vanished to avoid the liability. The cleanup bill, which you instantly are presented with if you buy the property, can exceed the value of the real estate by a lot.

    Replies: @J1234

    That’s true, you have to have the tanks removed and pay for cleanup. That happened to a guy I know who had such a property. Interesting, though – I still see lots of former gas station buildings that have been converted to other uses, such as car detailing or construction contracting, but they aren’t the cool old buildings from the 20’s or 30’s.

  88. @jtgw
    @Erik Sieven

    I think men and women look for different things in the opposite sex. Steve researched this a while ago for his article "Is love colorblind?"

    It makes sense that German women, or white women in general, prefer the robust and masculine West African man. The trouble is that their women are also robust and masculine, which men generally prefer less. The more gracile East African produces less attractive men (to women) but more attractive women (to men).

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Erik Sieven

    “The trouble is that their women are also robust and masculine, which men generally prefer less”
    While being unattractive might mean “having no children” for males it is much less severe for females. Makes life less funny than being a Super Model, but no big deal. A normal life is absolutely possible. So overall it is better to come from a family (or bigger ancestral group of people, like a “race”) with attractive males and unattractive females than the other way round.

    • Replies: @jtgw
    @Erik Sieven

    This is more about revealed preferences, you might say.

  89. @Erik Sieven
    @jtgw

    "The trouble is that their women are also robust and masculine, which men generally prefer less"
    While being unattractive might mean "having no children" for males it is much less severe for females. Makes life less funny than being a Super Model, but no big deal. A normal life is absolutely possible. So overall it is better to come from a family (or bigger ancestral group of people, like a "race") with attractive males and unattractive females than the other way round.

    Replies: @jtgw

    This is more about revealed preferences, you might say.

  90. @George
    "Plus, the government of Eritrea is not accommodating of letting foreign journalists visit Eritrea"

    Hey iSteve, Journalist Thomas Mountain (white guy / American) immigrated to Eritrea. Kudos to Thomas Mountain for beating the system and living in honor and dignity on a budget.

    Search on Thomas Mountain Eritrea.

    https://www.facebook.com/ThomasCMountain/
    https://twitter.com/thomascmountain?lang=en

    I like Black Agenda Report, but google does not seem to prioritize them

    https://www.blackagendareport.com/author/Thomas%20C.%20Mountain

    https://www.blackagendareport.com/us_plots_war_against_eritrea
    https://www.blackagendareport.com/eritrea_is_the_african_cuba

    Hey iSteve, is it possible the 'white media' has its own agenda?

    Chi-com media:
    Africa's Cuba, Thomas Mountain reports on life in revolutionary Eritrea 170614
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyB2R_tj5r0

    He apparently also writes for white person type publication CounterPunch
    search on: thomas mountain counterpunch

    Replies: @George, @Ivan K.

    Six days ago I forwarded this article to Thomas Mountain. Today morning he responded:

    thanks for the note, i dont usually use my yahoo account, best to contact me at txxxxx. gmail.com
    this article isnt so bad, lots of misinfo like everyone leaving is a refugee, total bullshit, lots of people leaving legally, and even if you do leave illegally, you wait 5 years, go to the embassy and sign your “i am sorry” papers and pay your 2% and return home no problem…
    best
    tom

    🙂

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