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From my column in Taki’s Magazine:

The Emperor’s New Clout
by Steve Sailer

February 13, 2019

While our society’s growing hate hysteria against straight white men may seem a bit demented, it is actually a logical requirement of the fundamental strategy of the Democratic Party: to mobilize a Coalition of the Margins comprising identity groups—such as blacks, transgenders, Muslims, and Jews—who don’t have much to unite them other than their resentment of old-fashioned Americans. …

This week witnessed two amusing Alliance of the Fringes circular firing squads.

Newly elected Somali Muslim Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishu) was struggle-sessioned by the Democratic leadership into apologizing for pointing out that pro-Israel Jewish-Americans are influential because they contribute a lot of money to politicians.

And a New York city councilman from Puerto Rico, the Reverend Rubén Díaz Sr. (D-South Bronx), is facing strong demands from New York’s powerful gay bloc that he resign after he alleged that homosexuals have much clout on the New York city council.

Read the whole thing there.

By the way, I’m struck by how much Rep. Omar, who is quite pretty for a member of Congress, looks like that Orientalist hijab fetish poster of a couple of years ago by Shepard Fairey come to life.

I think American women are starting to get into the idea that when the Muslims take over, they can throw their yoga pants away.

They won’t have to diet or workout or worry about their hair anymore. They’ll just wear tents and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.

Unfortunately, that strategy doesn’t always work as well as Fairey might have you believe.

 
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  1. Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes….look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    , @Anon
    @Northeast

    When people begin to have it good and take things for granted, they lose their survival instinct.

    , @Detective Club
    @Northeast

    Los Angeles was such a great place to live in 1967 that if you were a bookie in the lock-up, whose daughter happened to die while you were inside, the cops would be so kindly towards you that they would cover the expenses of your daughter's funeral.
    https://youtu.be/rDlcIRxqWlw
    Of course, LA was majority White back in 1967 (Joe Friday looks like he has some pow-wow blood --- he probably lied on his 1960 US Census form!).

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    , @Detective Club
    @Northeast

    The cops were ever vigilant and eager to arrest Kid Touchers in 1950s America.
    https://youtu.be/MmqNiFJyI28

    , @Polynikes
    @Northeast

    Even watching the Hollywood stylized depiction of the era in NYC in the show Madmen is kind of jarring.

    , @Jake
    @Northeast

    It has been coming a very long time. It cannot be avoided without widespread repentance for all the rebellions against Christendom, which means that people must turn against the political, moral, and religious tides of Modernism that is pro-everything but Christendom and the peoples of historic Christendom.

    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Northeast


    My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.
     
    Hard to feel any sympathy for them. They were the generation that oversaw the destruction, and silently stood by.

    Now, the smart white people are preparing while the clueless majority march towards the slaughter like sheep.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    , @ThreeCranes
    @Northeast

    Popular wisdom would have it that the 1950's were a time when conservative values prevailed. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The fifties saw the introduction of television into every home. This was a radical, unprecedented development in human history. For the first time someone uninvited, some foreign consciousness was autonomously functioning in the very bosom of your home and it was relentless. It could go on nonstop. Even if you were in the next room, you couldn't help but subconsciously hear its drone.

    Prior to television, human interaction was face to face. Communicating meant that you were half of a give and take dialogue--even when you spoke over the telephone. But television is different. It talks and projects and you listen and watch. It's one way. And that simple distinction has altered the consciousness of all of us.

    Replies: @Northeast

    , @Hark hark the snark
    @Northeast

    In the Fifties I was in elementary school in the suburbs of Salt Lake City. Every single kid in that school was of European descent except for one Navajo kid who had been adopted by a Mormon family.

    The largest group was Scandanavian, then English/Scottish/Welsh and Dutch. A handful were Italian and Greek. In the spring the boys would compete in a marbles contest and the girls in a hopscotch contest. The last day of school before Christmas the entire school gathered in the entrance hallway and sang Christmas carols. We’d walk home of school and buy penny candy at Economy Drug. In March they had paper kites for sell for 10 cents.

    Replies: @Northeast

    , @BigDickNick
    @Northeast

    On the other hand, I'm from an urban area not in california...certain urban areas were a lot worse when my parents were my age. A lot of places got smashed by the great migration and turned into near shitholes. Today, they are just starting to come back. Think of Richmond, VA 25 years ago and today or Detroit 10 years ago and today. Just like progress is not inevitable crapification is not inevitable. In california it probably is though, haha.

  2. Anon[140] • Disclaimer says:

    The conservative Power Line blog authored by some Minnesota attorneys and a journalist/UC Berkeley academic has had dozens and dozens of posts criticizing Omar over the years, including the good possibility that she married a Somali in 2002, had three children, married her brother in 2009, and brought him to the U.S. They repeatedly said that the local paper refused to look into what would be bigamy plus immigration fraud. Here’s one of their earliest posts on the subject:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/ilhan-omar-her-back-pages.php

    Inputting “ilhan” in their site search box will bring up page after page of subsequent posts.

    It’s such a weird accusation that, given that the local media is ignoring it, you’re inclined to write it off as a nutty conspiracy theory. But the Power Line guys are a sober, respectable group of guys whose podcast I listen to, so … I don’t know what to think.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
    @Anon

    There is little doubt that she married her brother fraudulently.

    , @AndrewR
    @Anon

    Whether or not these accusations are true, they remind me of the Obama birth certificate thing: a cucked, ridiculous, wasteful attempt to delegitimize a toxic politician who should best be delegitimized through far more direct means. Are we really ok with anti-white Muslim Somalis in our government as long as they aren't bigamous or guilty of immigration fraud? I know I'm not.

    Removing Omar from office or even our country would not even come close to fixing anything. Politicians like her and Obama are nothing but a symptom of our cultural rot.

    Replies: @Pericles, @jb

    , @Mike1
    @Anon

    It's a stretch to call an organization conservative when it has aggressive Never Trumpers writing for them. At this point you cannot pretend to be conservative and also anti Trump.

    , @larry lurker
    @Anon

    Snopes has an article about Ilhan Omar's brother... But it's about whether he's a terrorist who obtained 200 pounds of explosives with the intention of blowing up churches in Michigan. (Rating: False!)

    Was Ilhan Omar’s Brother Arrested with ‘200 Lbs. of Explosives’?

    They don't bother addressing the far more widely circulated rumor that she married her brother.

  3. I think American women are starting to get into the idea that when the Muslims take over, they can throw their yoga pants away.

    Ooooh get back in the witness box, you’re too sharp to live!

  4. The Brofo!!

    • Replies: @JimB
    @ethelred the...

    Brothers sodomizing younger sisters seems to be a thing if not an outright tradition in Muslim families. Muslim women refrain from snitching out of fear of becoming the victim of an honor killing or being shunned by the extended family. Also, Muslim culture automatically blames young women for their sexual abuse.

  5. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    • Replies: @Northeast
    @Dave Pinsen

    Perfect!

    , @George
    @Dave Pinsen

    "This was from the early ‘70s" when we were kings.

    , @Daniel H
    @Dave Pinsen

    Clean 1969 Mustang, two pretty friends. Wow! This dude didn't realize how fortunate he was.

    Replies: @Dr. X

    , @Dieter Kief
    @Dave Pinsen

    Great picture, thanks! Heartwarming.


    "It's like you standing in the window / Of a house nobody lives in / And I'm sitting in the car /
    Across the way/ It's an early model Chevrolet..."

    Jackson Browne, Late for the Sky.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Dave Pinsen

    , @Stick
    @Dave Pinsen

    Are the Beach Boys allowed in LA anymore?

    , @AndrewR
    @Dave Pinsen

    Not sure whether your implied message is "this is what we've lost" or if it's "look how far back in time the rot goes."

    My personal interpretation of that photo is the latter. Those short-shorts-sporting thots would be old women already. Hindsight may be 20/20, but I think many wise people 50 years ago could have reasonably predicted how degenerate 2019 society would be based on the degeneracy already very apparent back then.

    Replies: @Clive Beaconsfield, @Mr. Anon

    , @Sowhat
    @Dave Pinsen

    Those were the days, my friend. We thought they'd never end.

    , @Hail
    @Dave Pinsen

    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.

    I understand the median White American living as of early 2019 was b.1974, and at some point in coming months it will roll over to the median White American being b.1975. Which is to say, most of us (the living) missed out on Peak USA. And yet still the warm glow of the peak lasted for many years to come. The glow for the first time looks distinctly dim, to many, partly chronicled at iSteve over the 2000s and 2010s.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @The Last Real Calvinist

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @Dave Pinsen

    This looks like a staged photo for Ford's Mustang. But your point is well-taken.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Dave Pinsen

    (Sigh)

    , @follyofwar
    @Dave Pinsen

    Being born in 1951, the early seventies were very horny times for young men. The short shorts were great, but the miniskirts were even better. Girls were not yet all tatted up. But, I liked to go back even further in my reading, when I actually read novels. For me, nothing more captured the post-WWII haunting beauty of America than Jack Kerouac's "On the Road." There was freedom then. The early '70s, the period of my military service, were still ruined by the senseless tragedy of Vietnam.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dave Pinsen

    , @Clyde
    @Dave Pinsen

    That White Mustang Girls photo is from>>>>>and more photos like it>>>>> http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/photography/cruising-van-nuys-boulevard-los-angeles-1972/

    Cruising Van Nuys Boulevard, Los Angeles, 1972
    BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER – JANUARY 28, 2017
    CC reader Michael M. sent me a link to a gallery of photos shot on Van Nuys Blvd. in 1972, by photographer Rick McCloskey, and part of his book, Los Angeles in the 1970s. It’s a nice slice of youth and automotive culture of the times.

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    , @Pericles
    @Dave Pinsen

    Wow, so few cars.

    , @Prester John
    @Dave Pinsen

    When California was still...well...California-the Golden State. The gold mine has since petered out.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Dave Pinsen

    That was back when the future happened in California first.

    Actually, it still happens there first. But it sucks.

  6. https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1092219347429396480

    • Replies: @Escher
    @Anonymous

    This twitter exchange was so beautiful it almost brought a tear to my eye.
    Why did the last guy have to be the fly in this delicious multicultural soup?

    , @Trevor H.
    @Anonymous

    What is this bartender now, the second or third most powerful member of Congress? Gotta hand her this much: having grown up in New York, she knows all about Third Rails.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Anonymous

    "Corbyn's long, documented history of anti-Semitism" = "Corbyn's long, documented history of sympathy for dispossessed Palestinians"

    , @Hail
    @Anonymous

    Just who is Michael Tracey, anyway?

    He is good, but also one of those whose Twitter-cart is way before his IRL-horse. Very little info on him online. He simply tags himself "roving journalist."


    Michael Tracey [Verified account] @mtracey
    6 minutes ago

    There's something so condescending and arrogant in the assumption that a Somali-American refugee has to understand the convoluted "tropes" that offend these successful, mainstream, influential people, but they have no obligation to "understand" her perfectly valid viewpoint
     

    Replies: @Lot, @Charles Pewitt

    , @RobertTS
    @Anonymous

    One of the interesting subtexts in this whole drama has been watching Jewish progressives with otherwise impeccable anti-Zionist and/or anti-AIPAC credentials (such as Max Berger or Batya Ungar Sargon - whose tweeted exchanges w Omar set off this whole thing) trying to ride the PoC/Coalition of the Ascendant Tiger into combat with the Pale Stale Male who, they swear, is the only bearer of anti-Jewish sentiment. And yet for all that, still they get smacked down by the likes of Tracey, Mehdi Hassan and other far-left pundits for insufficient obeisance towards the Hijabbed Apex of the New Hierarchy.

    Then again, progressive American Jews likely view anti-Semitism through a parochial lens wherein stormtroopers and cossacks are the only plausible threats to them, with scant interest in the historical tribulations of MENA Jews living among the PoC.

    After all, an Uzi-toting Yemenite in some West Bank trailer park is as appealing as a gap-toothed deplorable from eastern Kentucky, only he has swarthier skin.

    A fork in the road lies ahead.

    , @Pericles
    @Anonymous

    I wonder how much a three-letter twitter handle cost that poor former bartender.

    , @El Dato
    @Anonymous

    Damn I was hoping this would end up as a threesome involving fetishes about nylon stockings and fine furniture, to paraphrase Neal Stephenson.

    Then 2nd City Bureaucrat cockblocks everything.

  7. Hence, many liberals Jews are only now beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    liberal

    • Replies: @Russ
    @Anon

    Someone at the Gateway Pundit did a nice job of juxtaposing the ADL response to I. Omar and the ADL response to Steve King. It went completely as expected.

    , @anon
    @Anon

    I have seen more Poles ,Romanians ,Lithuanians and Slovakians . They have uprooted local business, they have corrupted NY city. They have raked up huge profit at the cost of the citizen in construction business , in grabbing government contracts and overseeing public private services like road construction and sewerage disposal plumbing and long distance truck hauling . Compared to that see muslims driving cabs, imaging retail stores,working in computer or engineering or in medicine .
    There is reason British have been cheating anti Poles anti Eastern Europeans and not ant muslim mantras .

    , @anon
    @Anon

    I have seen more Poles ,Romanians ,Lithuanians and Slovakians . They have uprooted local business, they have corrupted NY city. They have raked up huge profit at the cost of the citizen in construction business , in grabbing government contracts and overseeing public private services like road construction and sewerage disposal plumbing and long distance truck hauling . Compared to that see muslims driving cabs, imaging retail stores,working in computer or engineering or in medicine .
    There is a reason British have been crying anti Poles anti Eastern Europeans and not ant muslim mantras .

    Replies: @J.Ross

  8. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    When people begin to have it good and take things for granted, they lose their survival instinct.

  9. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Perfect!

  10. Omar’s snark set off a berserk reaction among politicians because nobody is allowed to mention that, on average, Jews give more money to politicians than do members of other ethnic groups. People just can’t go around noticing who the politicians’ biggest donors are.

    Can we have some appreciation for Trump – an only just billionaire – who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Tyrion 2


    Can we have some appreciation for Trump – an only just billionaire – who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?

     

    Trump is the most patriotic President since the era of the Founding Fathers. He has literally sacrificed his fortune and sacred honor to do what he thinks best for his country. Deep State hatchetman Mueller is trying to financially ruin, and then imprison, Trump AND his family members as an object lesson to any future outsider impudent enough to think he can change the system from without rather than coming up through it from within and being corrupted and controlled by it. Even in today’s Russia or the worst kleptocracies of South America I don’t think they stoop so low as to destroy the families of political opponents.

    Replies: @donut

    , @Mike P.
    @Tyrion 2

    Did Trump's money cause white Protestants to be overrepresented among political donors?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    , @Colin Wright
    @Tyrion 2

    'Can we have some appreciation for Trump – an only just billionaire – who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?'

    Zionists are tedious. The leading donor to Clinton's campaign was a Zionist. Fourteen of the top twenty were Zionists. The leadig donor to Trump's campaign was a Zionist.

    The Zionists bought both candidates -- and you're here to muddy the waters. Go away.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  11. many liberals Jews are only now beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    Steve, what evidence do you have to support this assertion? I see no evidence of it. From what I can tell, liberal American jews still feel that making whites a minority is job numero uno. Any criticism of immigration is still seen as white supremacy. Jews are not logical on immigration issues. Open borders for white countries is a religion for them.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @TheBoom

    Correct, this is pure wishful thinking on Steve's part. Much like his absurd idea that not counting Middle Eastern people as separate from white Europeans on the census will somehow help them assimilate.

  12. Thank you, Steve, for noticing, and for writing about what you notice. Thank you in particular for mentioning the anti-First Amendment bill that the Senate has just passed on behalf of its Jewish handlers.

    The Emperor wears no clothes, and his circumcision is showing.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can you explain what this anti-BDS law actually does?

    Replies: @neutral, @Buzz Mohawk, @Sowhat, @Lot

    , @follyofwar
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Indeed, I can think of nothing that more demonstrates Jewish control of the culture than the fact that most of us American gentiles have been circumcised.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Anonymous

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I love this new trope that you can't say something that is labelled as a "trope."

    It's such a perfect way to shut down a line of inquiry without addressing the substance of a statement.
    I mean, I suppose it is a "trope" in politics that "money talks." Donors don't give money for no reason.
    They expect some return on investment.

    When you say this about the Koch brothers or oil companies or the NRA it's an obvious truism. Say it about the Israel lobby and you are an anti-Semitic bigot. Go figure.

    I guess this new definition of "trope" is like the classic definition of a political "gaffe" - a true thing you weren't supposed to say.

    Replies: @Hail

  13. By the way, I’m struck by how much Rep. Omar, who is quite pretty for a member of Congress

    The Horn of Africa region is probably a hotspot of female beauty.

  14. Perhaps a line about Somali politicians can be added to this old joke?

    Hell is where the police are German, the cooks are English, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and it is all organised by the Italians”

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Tyrion 2

    Tyron, "and where the Somalis set the clock back every hour."

    , @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Tyrion 2

    Hell is Somalia?

    Nice and simple. Somalians are a hopelessly retarded people. While I may be somewhat racist, I can think of decent people from every race.... except somalians.

    Every single somalian is stupid, slow, thuggish, and generally dead weight on humanity that should be quarantined and left to starve in their native shithole. I can't speak lowly enough about them.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    , @Brobert
    @Tyrion 2

    The joke works because those people are good at certain things, but put in the wrong chair. What are Somalis good at?

    , @bomag
    @Tyrion 2

    ...and they all get replaced by Somalis.

  15. @Buzz Mohawk
    Thank you, Steve, for noticing, and for writing about what you notice. Thank you in particular for mentioning the anti-First Amendment bill that the Senate has just passed on behalf of its Jewish handlers.

    The Emperor wears no clothes, and his circumcision is showing.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @follyofwar, @Hypnotoad666

    Can you explain what this anti-BDS law actually does?

    • Agree: Sowhat
    • Replies: @neutral
    @Tyrion 2

    You are not allowed to do any business with the US government unless you show loyalty to Israel.

    , @Buzz Mohawk
    @Tyrion 2

    Sorry, I don't play hasbara pong.

    https://i.skyrock.net/8508/30608508/pics/1952572067_1.gif

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @J.Ross, @tyrone

    , @Sowhat
    @Tyrion 2

    oops. I hit the wrong button. I meant to agree with Buzz Mohowk. darn!

    Replies: @Hail

    , @Lot
    @Tyrion 2

    It is mostly symbolic and supportive of local laws.

    Between watering it down to get passed and the First Amendment, it is the strongest we cam expect. And Pelosi isn't going to let it come up for a vote in the House.

    The GOP is united behind Israel. Dems are now about 55/45 split in favor. They saw what happened to Corbyn and Labour and want no part of it. Though of course it is inevitable.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

  16. @Tyrion 2
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can you explain what this anti-BDS law actually does?

    Replies: @neutral, @Buzz Mohawk, @Sowhat, @Lot

    You are not allowed to do any business with the US government unless you show loyalty to Israel.

  17. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    “This was from the early ‘70s” when we were kings.

  18. Now, to fight the bigotry against Arab billionaires influencing US policy!

  19. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Clean 1969 Mustang, two pretty friends. Wow! This dude didn’t realize how fortunate he was.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
    @Daniel H

    You don't see kids that young who can afford a new Mustang any more. Any time I see a new Mustang on the road it's got some gray-haired Boomer between the ages of 65 and 75 behind the wheel.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  20. Worth noting is that the proximate cause of the dust up is Republican Kevin McCarthy, pro Israel white guy of unknown religious* background, claimed he was going to investigate Muslim members of Congress.

    *Evangelical?

    • Replies: @George
    @George

    Kevin McCarthy: “We can not allow Soros, Steyer, and Bloomberg to BUY this election! Get out and vote Republican on Nov 6. #MAGA."

    Ilhan Omar Was Right
    https://jacobinmag.com/2019/02/ilhan-omar-israel-tweet-antisemitism-bds/

  21. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Great picture, thanks! Heartwarming.

    “It’s like you standing in the window / Of a house nobody lives in / And I’m sitting in the car /
    Across the way/ It’s an early model Chevrolet…”

    Jackson Browne, Late for the Sky.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Dieter Kief

    Jackson Browne wrote many great songs. Late for the Sky is one of his best.

    , @Anonymous
    @Dieter Kief

    That’s “The Late Show” off the album Late for the Sky. Great song, great album.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Dieter Kief

    Clyde Jackson Browne.

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @Dieter Kief


    So I always get nostalgic with that song
    But in my room its forced
    It has to be in some car across the street
    And I always catch the back of your head in the crowd
    Don't turn around its never you
    And you ruin those memories
     
    - Ian Thornley (the Canadian Chris Cornell).

    https://youtu.be/H6d4cblamdQ
  22. These striking inequalities might suggest that the many Jewish journalists who have so enthusiastically promoted the concept of White Privilege should worry whether nonwhites follow the same logic to believe in Jewish Privilege.

    At this point, White Privilege is just an anti-Semitic dog whistle.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jon

    https://www.twitter.com/ramzpaul/status/1095698971182485506

  23. Hence stoking fear and loathing of core Americans is the one strategy the Democrats have for keeping their constituents from turning on each other.

    The idea is, that the glue, which binds societies together, is a resource, which is in no short supply at all.
    (And this is a big mistake).

  24. @George
    Worth noting is that the proximate cause of the dust up is Republican Kevin McCarthy, pro Israel white guy of unknown religious* background, claimed he was going to investigate Muslim members of Congress.

    *Evangelical?

    Replies: @George

    Kevin McCarthy: “We can not allow Soros, Steyer, and Bloomberg to BUY this election! Get out and vote Republican on Nov 6. #MAGA.”

    Ilhan Omar Was Right
    https://jacobinmag.com/2019/02/ilhan-omar-israel-tweet-antisemitism-bds/

  25. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    Los Angeles was such a great place to live in 1967 that if you were a bookie in the lock-up, whose daughter happened to die while you were inside, the cops would be so kindly towards you that they would cover the expenses of your daughter’s funeral.

    Of course, LA was majority White back in 1967 (Joe Friday looks like he has some pow-wow blood — he probably lied on his 1960 US Census form!).

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
    @Detective Club

    "Webb was raised in the Roman Catholic faith of his mother, who was of Irish and Native American descent."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Webb#Early_life

  26. @Tyrion 2
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can you explain what this anti-BDS law actually does?

    Replies: @neutral, @Buzz Mohawk, @Sowhat, @Lot

    Sorry, I don’t play hasbara pong.

    • Agree: Hail
    • Troll: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Quite right. These commenters like Tyrion 2 and Lot don't argue in good faith. Just bring up the Liberty incident or Jonathan Pollard to see what their real agenda is. Or just notice some sociological fact that is a matter of record, for that matter. They are simply partisan propagandists, promoting their own particular ethnic agenda. We don't need to engage with them at all. We already know what they think; what they think blasts out at us from the media 24/7. We should just go our own way - carry on our own conversations - without any reference to them.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    , @J.Ross
    @Buzz Mohawk

    But Buzz, if you don't take the bait, how will anybody ever have any idea what is in a published piece of legislation that has been widely discussed?

    , @tyrone
    @Buzz Mohawk

    aaaahh…..nostalgia ,now that was a great game:)

  27. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    The cops were ever vigilant and eager to arrest Kid Touchers in 1950s America.

  28. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092210825228636161

    https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1092219347429396480

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092227273682550784

    https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1092229114143141889

    https://twitter.com/mkoplow/status/1092230000965750784

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1095400443562344454

    https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1095418717708734465

    Replies: @Escher, @Trevor H., @YetAnotherAnon, @Hail, @RobertTS, @Pericles, @El Dato

    This twitter exchange was so beautiful it almost brought a tear to my eye.
    Why did the last guy have to be the fly in this delicious multicultural soup?

  29. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092210825228636161

    https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1092219347429396480

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092227273682550784

    https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1092229114143141889

    https://twitter.com/mkoplow/status/1092230000965750784

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1095400443562344454

    https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1095418717708734465

    Replies: @Escher, @Trevor H., @YetAnotherAnon, @Hail, @RobertTS, @Pericles, @El Dato

    What is this bartender now, the second or third most powerful member of Congress? Gotta hand her this much: having grown up in New York, she knows all about Third Rails.

  30. They’ll just wear hijabs and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.

    Unfortunately, that strategy doesn’t always work as well as Fairey might have you believe.

    No, not always. However. There’s a Muslim woman who works at my local big box electronics store who wears an oversized deep black hijab and very dramatic makeup. The overall impression is kind of hot Empress Palpatine cosplay.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

  31. “While our society’s growing hate hysteria against straight white men may seem a bit demented, it is actually a logical requirement may seem a bit demented, it is actually a logical requirement . . .”.

    I’ll speculate that the mannered and sometimes not so mannered “hate hysteria against straight white men” was a foreseeable consequence of the 1960s tumult. Anti-White animus is something of a rhetorical free-fire zone, totemic subjects such as Jewish suffering and Black history are rhetorical no-go, no-fly zones for all but goodthinkers mouthing the party line. The spirit of the First Amendment and academic freedom is pretty much chained in by circumstantial censorship. Too bad, I guess.

  32. @Anon
    The conservative Power Line blog authored by some Minnesota attorneys and a journalist/UC Berkeley academic has had dozens and dozens of posts criticizing Omar over the years, including the good possibility that she married a Somali in 2002, had three children, married her brother in 2009, and brought him to the U.S. They repeatedly said that the local paper refused to look into what would be bigamy plus immigration fraud. Here's one of their earliest posts on the subject:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/ilhan-omar-her-back-pages.php

    Inputting "ilhan" in their site search box will bring up page after page of subsequent posts.

    It's such a weird accusation that, given that the local media is ignoring it, you're inclined to write it off as a nutty conspiracy theory. But the Power Line guys are a sober, respectable group of guys whose podcast I listen to, so ... I don't know what to think.

    Replies: @Kaganovitch, @AndrewR, @Mike1, @larry lurker

    There is little doubt that she married her brother fraudulently.

  33. Steve, you write “Jews—who don’t have much to unite them other than their resentment of old-fashioned Americans.”

    You must not have much or anything to do with real life American jews. The fact is that the overwhelming majority of native-born English speaking American jews act think and live as co-members of the great American family of native-born, English speaking Caucasian citizens. I can report that there was some resentment in past years when jews were excluded from the professions and from employment by large companies and discriminated against when applying to college. I remember my uncle talking in that vein. But that was 60+ years ago before those barriers disappeared after WW II. If there is any justification for your assumption, it must be the large number of jews among journalists who parrot and promulgate PC doctrines. They believe the woke doctrine not because they are jews but because that is the reigning world-view at the present time which they have signed on to. You are committing an illicit conversion, that many promoters of PC thinking are jews, therefore they promote PC thinking because they are jews.

  34. I’ve been wondering about this for awhile – Democrats (as pointed out, with a major financial assist from Jewish donors) have been electing more and more people who don’t actually like Jews, and certainly are not as enamored with Israel as the typical GOPer. At what point will we see a meaningful impact on donations?

    A friend of mine is a huge Israel booster and a pretty committed Democrat. But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment. Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn’t really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Arclight

    "Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn’t really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back."

    He may start caring if Israel ever is seriously threatened.

    "But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment."

    Dem office holders are still solidly Israel. The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems. But on things like military aid, they vote something like 200-6 in favor of Israel in the House and 50-0 in the Senate.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @istevefan

    , @Flip
    @Arclight

    Isn't this what has happened in the UK with Jews supporting the Conservative Party?

    , @Anonymous
    @Arclight

    This tension has been evident in street-level politics for decades. A lot of these little far-left/antifa/anti-racist activist groups are heavily dependent on Jewish donations--if they aren't actually run by Jews. However many of the rank-and-file members of these groups, if they don't actually hate Jews, do hate Israel with a passion. This means these groups are in a state of constant internal turmoil over the Israel/Palestine issue, especially when the violence over there hots up. Most of these outfits would simply implode without the Nazi boogyman to hold them together.

  35. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    Even watching the Hollywood stylized depiction of the era in NYC in the show Madmen is kind of jarring.

  36. I thought having Keith Ellison as our Representative was embarrassing, but now Omar makes Ellison look reasonable.

  37. “two issues where they diverge”

    Does “they” have a sex? If you don’t wish to reveal it, “he or she” will do, or just ,”he.”

  38. @Tyrion 2

    Omar’s snark set off a berserk reaction among politicians because nobody is allowed to mention that, on average, Jews give more money to politicians than do members of other ethnic groups. People just can’t go around noticing who the politicians’ biggest donors are.
     
    Can we have some appreciation for Trump - an only just billionaire - who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?

    Replies: @Abe, @Mike P., @Colin Wright

    Can we have some appreciation for Trump – an only just billionaire – who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?

    Trump is the most patriotic President since the era of the Founding Fathers. He has literally sacrificed his fortune and sacred honor to do what he thinks best for his country. Deep State hatchetman Mueller is trying to financially ruin, and then imprison, Trump AND his family members as an object lesson to any future outsider impudent enough to think he can change the system from without rather than coming up through it from within and being corrupted and controlled by it. Even in today’s Russia or the worst kleptocracies of South America I don’t think they stoop so low as to destroy the families of political opponents.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Abe

    " most patriotic President since the era of the Founding Fathers" . You must mean 1948 and I'm sure he is but this isn't Israel .

  39. Instead of the HC Anderson take, I prefer the story of Zhao Goa, a powerful eunuch in the Winter Dynasty. He put a puppet on the throne much to the consternation of other mandarins.

    So he called a big meeting of mandarins and had a deer brought in . Zhao Goa said “Look at the wonderful horse I am going to give to the Emperor.”. An obvious lie but a test. If someone stood up and said ” that is a deer” they were an enemy and killed. If one was silent, an eye was kept on them. If the Mandarin praised the deer/horse, those are pliant fools you could appoint to important jobs.

    Call a deer a horse is a Chinese idiom.

  40. A few points:

    (1) I don’t think AIPAC is a powerful lobby as such. I think its perceived power comes from having a parasitic relationship with the actually powerful military-industrial complex lobby like the remora has with the shark.

    (2) I think the purpose of Jewish donorism to both actual political candidates and one level below them think tanks really isn’t to buy a pro-Israel policy from the United States, because the United States would be pro-Israel regardless for a few other reasons. I think the real purpose of Jewish donorism is to rooster block gentile-led populist and nationalist political ambitions.

    (3) Gradually, then suddenly, the American mainstream left developed its own JQ. As far as that goes, they’re catching up to the European mainstream left, which, in spite of anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States, ironically has never been in love with Jews or Israel.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @countenance

    One point: you are wrong. AIPAC clearly is a powerful lobbying organization. They are, in fact, a foreign agent. And while they don't directly donate money to candidates, as Omar said, they coordinate the donation of money to candidates. They marshall large and small strategic resources toward electing the candidates that they want. And they are not the only organization that makes up the pro-Israel lobby. There are many others with the fortunes of many billionaires backing them up.

    By the way: It isn't raining. You're just pissing on us.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Don%27t%20piss%20on%20my%20leg%20and%20tell%20me%20it%27s%20raining.

    , @AndrewR
    @countenance


    anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States,
     
    Is this even true? Germany, sure, but Germany is not "Europe."
    , @Priss Factor
    @countenance

    in spite of anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States

    It's really ANXI-Semitism, or anxiety(totally warranted) about Jewish Power.

    The real problem with Jewish Power is not that it is powerful. Power can be checked if criticized. It's that Jews are sacred and can't be criticized. When the most powerful group has protected status, the result is protected supremacism, the most dangerous kind. It's like treating a rich person as a poor one. Or like pretending that a swarm of locusts belongs on the endangered species list. Or responding to record rainfall and flooding as if we are in the middle of a drought.

    Because we can't be honest about Jewish Power, we are overcome with anxiety.

    According to globo-homo Inversality, poor whites have 'white privilege' whereas even Jews who fund AIPAC are the most innocent nobodies. That's the state of power dynamics in the world we live in.

    , @Lot
    @countenance

    Little overstated but basically all correct.

  41. Perfect ending.

    Of course, Jews being Jews, most do not fear that adding another 20 million Mohammedans to the US could ever hurt Jews. First, being Jews means that even atheist Jews are certain deep down that being the Chosen Race means that God is required to save them from themselves. Second, they know that demography means that a larger number of white Christians than of Jews will be destroyed by Mohammedan rampaging, and that to most Jews is worth a good deal of discomfort to a few Jews. Third, they have faith that the Anglo-Zionist Empire is forever, and WASP culture was born to serve the globalist aspirations of Jews – a kind of anti-Rome, if you will.

  42. Anonymous[185] • Disclaimer says:

    Indeed, the same species of political myopia seems to affect the billionaires’ fan club masturbation society in-house comic, The Economist magazine.

    Importing unlimited hordes of third workers into white nations, (and only white nations mind you), goody-goody gumdrops!

    But the fact that the vast multitude of dirt-poor paupers which The Economist desperately seeks to import will *inevitably* lead to permanent Marxist confiscatory government, seems strangely to elude those Capitalists’ professional brownnosers.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    But the fact that the vast multitude of dirt-poor paupers which The Economist desperately seeks to import will *inevitably* lead to permanent Marxist confiscatory government, seems strangely to elude those Capitalists’ professional brownnosers.
     
    Libertarians as well. These open border libertarians are not really libertarian but actually promoting some sort of socialism where a shared asset of people in nice nations is redistributed to whomever can grab it.

    But beyond that these phony "libertarians" are simply incapable of grasping that any level of libertarianism depends precisely on having people who actually value that and see it as "fair". That's basically only going to be in nations with Anglo-Saxon traditions and where enough of the populace is on board with those traditions to maintain them.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  43. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    It has been coming a very long time. It cannot be avoided without widespread repentance for all the rebellions against Christendom, which means that people must turn against the political, moral, and religious tides of Modernism that is pro-everything but Christendom and the peoples of historic Christendom.

  44. …in spite of anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States…

    https://diversitymachtfrei.wordpress.com/2019/02/11/44-of-gilets-jaunes-think-there-is-a-zionist-conspiracy-on-a-global-scale/

    44% of people who call themselves Gilets Jaunes believe there is a Zionist conspiracy at a global level, compared to “only” 22% in the general population.

  45. 1. Interesting how the only people who don’t have a problem with white male supremacy are white males. that tells you something right there

    2. Ms. Omar is a victim of white male supremacy. If she hadn’t been soaked in the acidic hate soup of American racist culture she would not have misspoken

    3. white males are dangerous https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/02/13/Ex-boyfriend-arrested-in-connection-to-Valerie-Reyess-death/1651550046809/ Is it any wonder that women do not want to date them

    • Agree: fish
    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @Tiny Duck

    Funny Tiny. The killer was an illegal alien from Venezuela. He must be white if he is the perp, right?

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/02/12/report-illegal-immigrant-confesses-killing-woman-found-suitcase/

  46. Good article

    Small typo: It’s “Glenn” not “Greg” Greenwald

  47. A trend I’ve noticed among college students (mostly among girls) is the wearing of winter hats even indoors. I once asked one why she was doing that, and she replied simply, “I didn’t have time to wash my hair today.” Another student confirmed that this is the usual reason.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Elsewhere

    Elsewhere, they should wear their hair in dreads or rastaf style, never need to wash it.

  48. If White conservatives had any sense, they would encourage this discussion as a way to drive a wedge between Muslims and Jews in the Democratic party.

    But of course, White conservatives are clueless.

    • Replies: @Simply Simon
    @RichardTaylor

    I don't think the Jews in the Democratic party are Orthodox, no they are clearly secular. As to the Muslims they take Islamism and Sharia law seriously. But they are willing to go along and get along until the time is ripe to make their influence more pronounceable. No, I don't think there is much conservatives can do to create a wedge between the two groups.

    , @nsa
    @RichardTaylor

    "........drive a wedge between the Muslims and the Jews........".
    The cock cutters vs the clit cutters?

    , @Citizen of a Silly Country
    @RichardTaylor

    They'll have a common enemy - us - to hold them together for a very long time. It'll be a good generation or two before the White Menace is gone. Then they can turn to killing each other.

  49. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Are the Beach Boys allowed in LA anymore?

  50. Hence, many liberals Jews are… beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    Cite needed

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Desiderius



    Hence, many liberals Jews are… beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.
     
    Cite needed
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Colossus

    Employed whenever and wherever possible.
  51. By the way, I’m struck by how much Rep. Omar, who is quite pretty for a member of Congress

    Yes, Omar is pretty young for a Congress Creature and so therefore young and pretty (for a Congress Creature). Steve used to quote this line by Evelyn Waugh(?), which I can’t find anymore, but it basically went that as a conservative he hoped to see the world divided into a collection of dozens of thriving, mutually antagonistic nation-states. Meaning, the central irony of our political disposition is that we tend to most vehemently fight those who are sometimes closest to us in our actual values- namely conservative nationalists from other countries, cultures, religions and races. Fully saving Finland from globohomo would ironically mean a world where I’d be much more likely to get beaten up in a Helsinki bar for acting like an ugly American.

    So- tight young skin? Yeah. Pretty smile? Yeah. Full, sensuous lips? I guess. But what makes me go (momentarily) weak in the knees for Rep. Omar is here is a woman given enormous personal political power and she is NOT using it to undermine HER OWN culture, NOT using it to undermine HER OWN religion, NOT using it to undermine HER OWN menfolk. She is fighting heroically for HER OWN (HER OWN just happens not to be MY OWN). (Momentary) Swoon.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Abe

    Jews fight heroically for their people, they just use behind the scenes methods to do so, because it is much more effective.
    Black politicians are simply too corrupt to be effective, but mob rule and the terror of rape, robbery and murder are enormously effective.

  52. @Tyrion 2

    Omar’s snark set off a berserk reaction among politicians because nobody is allowed to mention that, on average, Jews give more money to politicians than do members of other ethnic groups. People just can’t go around noticing who the politicians’ biggest donors are.
     
    Can we have some appreciation for Trump - an only just billionaire - who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?

    Replies: @Abe, @Mike P., @Colin Wright

    Did Trump’s money cause white Protestants to be overrepresented among political donors?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Mike P.

    Considering the many white Protestants with a lot more money than him who don't donate what is even chump change to them, I simply think Trump's generosity and sense of patriotism should be lauded.

    For example, Jezz Bezos made more money on a number of single days last year than Trump's entire election campaign cost.

    If donating political money buys you great influence, I guess Bezos hates influence. But if it is more often civic generosity, then what is wrong with the underepresented white Protestant billionaires? Actually, either way, what is wrong with them?

    Anyway, the real tragedy of Trump seems to be that he has had to attempt to do so much with relatively miniscule effective support. Those hardy few who have helped are clearly exceptional.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

  53. I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again: We’ve reached “Peak Jew.” (Btw, just because a group is no longer at their apex, it doesn’t mean that they’re not still on top.)

    It’s one thing to manipulate and control a people (on particular topics such as Israel and immigration) who look like you, think like you, have similar cultural values as you and, generally, like you. It’s quite another to maintain authority over people who don’t look like you, who belong to another tribe (and know it), don’t think like you, have very different cultural values and, generally, despise you.

    In the first case, it’s a bit like having a loving and obedient labrador. In the second case, it’s like having a vicious pit bull that you keep on a choke collar in one hand and a taser in the other for protection.

    That said, my bet is that Jews will manage to keep a lid on the smarter/more wild factions of the Dems (Indians, Asians and Muslims) for quite some time. But it will be a struggle and will become harder over time.

  54. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Not sure whether your implied message is “this is what we’ve lost” or if it’s “look how far back in time the rot goes.”

    My personal interpretation of that photo is the latter. Those short-shorts-sporting thots would be old women already. Hindsight may be 20/20, but I think many wise people 50 years ago could have reasonably predicted how degenerate 2019 society would be based on the degeneracy already very apparent back then.

    • Agree: sayless
    • Replies: @Clive Beaconsfield
    @AndrewR

    The 70’s in many ways were the low point of American public morality. In at least few respects (attitudes toward sex with minors, say), we’ve improved since then.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @AndrewR


    Hindsight may be 20/20, but I think many wise people 50 years ago could have reasonably predicted how degenerate 2019 society would be based on the degeneracy already very apparent back then.
     
    I don't think anybody predicted it then, or could have.
  55. @ethelred the...
    The Brofo!!

    Replies: @JimB

    Brothers sodomizing younger sisters seems to be a thing if not an outright tradition in Muslim families. Muslim women refrain from snitching out of fear of becoming the victim of an honor killing or being shunned by the extended family. Also, Muslim culture automatically blames young women for their sexual abuse.

  56. Liberals used to deploy the term “wrapping yourself in the flag” as a taunt – an insult. Now they embrace the idea, literally.

  57. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092210825228636161

    https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1092219347429396480

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092227273682550784

    https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1092229114143141889

    https://twitter.com/mkoplow/status/1092230000965750784

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1095400443562344454

    https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1095418717708734465

    Replies: @Escher, @Trevor H., @YetAnotherAnon, @Hail, @RobertTS, @Pericles, @El Dato

    Corbyn’s long, documented history of anti-Semitism=Corbyn’s long, documented history of sympathy for dispossessed Palestinians

  58. @Desiderius

    Hence, many liberals Jews are... beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.
     
    Cite needed

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Hence, many liberals Jews are… beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    Cite needed

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_Colossus

    Employed whenever and wherever possible.

  59. @Anon
    The conservative Power Line blog authored by some Minnesota attorneys and a journalist/UC Berkeley academic has had dozens and dozens of posts criticizing Omar over the years, including the good possibility that she married a Somali in 2002, had three children, married her brother in 2009, and brought him to the U.S. They repeatedly said that the local paper refused to look into what would be bigamy plus immigration fraud. Here's one of their earliest posts on the subject:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/ilhan-omar-her-back-pages.php

    Inputting "ilhan" in their site search box will bring up page after page of subsequent posts.

    It's such a weird accusation that, given that the local media is ignoring it, you're inclined to write it off as a nutty conspiracy theory. But the Power Line guys are a sober, respectable group of guys whose podcast I listen to, so ... I don't know what to think.

    Replies: @Kaganovitch, @AndrewR, @Mike1, @larry lurker

    Whether or not these accusations are true, they remind me of the Obama birth certificate thing: a cucked, ridiculous, wasteful attempt to delegitimize a toxic politician who should best be delegitimized through far more direct means. Are we really ok with anti-white Muslim Somalis in our government as long as they aren’t bigamous or guilty of immigration fraud? I know I’m not.

    Removing Omar from office or even our country would not even come close to fixing anything. Politicians like her and Obama are nothing but a symptom of our cultural rot.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @AndrewR

    How would you suggest Obama to be directly delegitimized?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @jb
    @AndrewR

    I think this is less about delegitimizing Ilhan Omar than delegitimizing the media. If you can force everyone to acknowledge that one particular immigrant politician is a lying fraud, well there are still going to be a lot of people who'll say "but that's just one, I'm sure the rest are good". But if you could force everyone to acknowledge that the media systematically ignores evidence of wrongdoing by members of the Left's favored victim groups that would be considerably bigger win. Given Ilhan Omar's current high profile, conclusively proving the accusations against her would be a major step in that direction, so the story is definitely worth pursuing.

  60. @countenance
    A few points:

    (1) I don't think AIPAC is a powerful lobby as such. I think its perceived power comes from having a parasitic relationship with the actually powerful military-industrial complex lobby like the remora has with the shark.

    (2) I think the purpose of Jewish donorism to both actual political candidates and one level below them think tanks really isn't to buy a pro-Israel policy from the United States, because the United States would be pro-Israel regardless for a few other reasons. I think the real purpose of Jewish donorism is to rooster block gentile-led populist and nationalist political ambitions.

    (3) Gradually, then suddenly, the American mainstream left developed its own JQ. As far as that goes, they're catching up to the European mainstream left, which, in spite of anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States, ironically has never been in love with Jews or Israel.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Priss Factor, @Lot

    One point: you are wrong. AIPAC clearly is a powerful lobbying organization. They are, in fact, a foreign agent. And while they don’t directly donate money to candidates, as Omar said, they coordinate the donation of money to candidates. They marshall large and small strategic resources toward electing the candidates that they want. And they are not the only organization that makes up the pro-Israel lobby. There are many others with the fortunes of many billionaires backing them up.

    By the way: It isn’t raining. You’re just pissing on us.

    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Don%27t%20piss%20on%20my%20leg%20and%20tell%20me%20it%27s%20raining.

  61. @countenance
    A few points:

    (1) I don't think AIPAC is a powerful lobby as such. I think its perceived power comes from having a parasitic relationship with the actually powerful military-industrial complex lobby like the remora has with the shark.

    (2) I think the purpose of Jewish donorism to both actual political candidates and one level below them think tanks really isn't to buy a pro-Israel policy from the United States, because the United States would be pro-Israel regardless for a few other reasons. I think the real purpose of Jewish donorism is to rooster block gentile-led populist and nationalist political ambitions.

    (3) Gradually, then suddenly, the American mainstream left developed its own JQ. As far as that goes, they're catching up to the European mainstream left, which, in spite of anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States, ironically has never been in love with Jews or Israel.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Priss Factor, @Lot

    anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States,

    Is this even true? Germany, sure, but Germany is not “Europe.”

  62. I don’t like the social expectation that a women heading into her late 30s and has a couple of kids needs to look “hot.”

    Everyone should strive to not be fat but I don’t think married women or men need should be expected to be toned with firm butts.

    Once you have kids entering puberty its time to let vanity go, lose the yoga pants and wear stylish clothes that hide your flaws.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Jimi

    Women should age gracefully, but men should look like they're ready to fight a battle at any time. Getting older is no excuse.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jimi

    I disagree. “Be Best”

  63. Hence, many liberals Jews are only now beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    Organized Diasporan Jewry in the USA pushes mass legal immigration and illegal immigration as a way to attack and destroy the European Christian ancestral core of the USA.

    The Third Worlders imported by the JEW/WASP ruling class of the USA will not slavishly support Israel the way that European Christian Americans do. This is particularly true about British Protestant evangelicals in the Southern states. The evangelicals provide the Israel First votes and the GOP billionaire Jew donors provide the loot — that explains the support for Israel in the GOP.

    Trump puts the interests of Israel ahead of the interests of the United States for the billionaire GOP Jew donor loot from guys like Shelly Adelson and the evangelical vote in the Southern states.

    Tweets from 2015:

  64. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Tyrion 2

    Sorry, I don't play hasbara pong.

    https://i.skyrock.net/8508/30608508/pics/1952572067_1.gif

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @J.Ross, @tyrone

    Quite right. These commenters like Tyrion 2 and Lot don’t argue in good faith. Just bring up the Liberty incident or Jonathan Pollard to see what their real agenda is. Or just notice some sociological fact that is a matter of record, for that matter. They are simply partisan propagandists, promoting their own particular ethnic agenda. We don’t need to engage with them at all. We already know what they think; what they think blasts out at us from the media 24/7. We should just go our own way – carry on our own conversations – without any reference to them.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    They say that it is pointless trying to engage with someone on an intellectual level who is 20 IQ points lower. I feel that with you it is much more than that. Since I am an average type of guy and so probably 100, I guess you're about 50. Do you struggle to operate door handles?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon

  65. @Tyrion 2
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can you explain what this anti-BDS law actually does?

    Replies: @neutral, @Buzz Mohawk, @Sowhat, @Lot

    oops. I hit the wrong button. I meant to agree with Buzz Mohowk. darn!

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Sowhat

    Little known Unz Review comment-system fact:

    You can change your 'Agree/Disagree/LOL/Troll' by waiting till your allotment refreshes and clicking another. So an 'Agree' can be replaced by a 'Disagree,' a 'LOL' or a 'Troll.'

    (Once you make one endorsement [as Ron Unz calls these buttons] of a comment, though, you cannot totally withdraw it, only change it. I have tested this by turning a 'Disagree' to a 'Troll' and back to a 'Disagree.')

    Replies: @Lot

  66. It is quite normal for people to congregate around themselves and attempt to be heard more loudly as a group. It’s America, although we may be headed for Amurka or Ameirrica.
    One should remember that there will always (hopefully)be division of ideologies and (hopefully) discussion. Perhaps the MSM that seems to increasingly push DIVISION and HATE will fade but I doubt it in light of the CIA’s control of MSM. After all, they are the Pro’s when it comes to regime change. Too bad that they won’t be defunded and disbanded.

  67. Hence, many liberals Jews are only now beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    How about the importation of Amerindians and Mestizos?

    These Amerindian and Mestizo creatures don’t look like they give a damn about Israel.

    That treasonous rat Teddy Cruz is pushing mass legal immigration and Texas may go to the Democrat Party in the next decade or so, but Teddy Cruz and the vast majority of Israel First Jews in the USA still push mass legal immigration.

    Is Teddy Cruz pushing for the mass deportation of all illegal alien invaders in the USA? I doubt it!

    Trump is a politician puppet whore for billionaire GOP Jew donor Shelly Adelson. Shelly Adelson and Trump push mass legal immigration. If mass legal immigration brings in Third Worlders who won’t support Israel, is that good for the Jews?

    These people may not give a damn about Israel and they may politically control Texas in a decade or so:

  68. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Those were the days, my friend. We thought they’d never end.

  69. Every FAB in a hijab – that ought to intensify the war on Beckys something awful. It will genuinely be something when White women in this country finally realize just how much non-whites hate them, just for, generally speaking, being prettier.

    Am I the only one who wonders why Jews contribute so much money to politicians, a form of free speech according to SCOTUS, when the politicians they favor are perniciously anti free speech, regardless of Party affiliation? Some weird meta-form of Jewish self loathing? As also the support for immigration, when they have to know those immigrants seriously do not have warm cuddly feelings for, well anybody, but especially Jews?

  70. Sunglasses and wristwear are very big status-signallers in the Affluent Muslim Woman community.

    Maybe, post-Sharia-takeover, more women will look like this:

  71. Forget Omar. Joe Biden is the hoary father figure we need to lead the fight against the White patriarchy.

  72. Anonymous[426] • Disclaimer says:

    mobilize a Coalition of the Margins comprising identity groups—such as blacks, transgenders, Muslims, and Jews—who don’t have much to unite them other than their resentment of old-fashioned Americans. …

    Poor word choice, Steve. “Resentment” implies that Whites have done something (wrong) that justifies resentment. It is like “grievance” in that way, albeit in a lesser degree.

    Learn from the Jews. They rarely use “grievances” or “resentment” to describe the motivations behind opposition toward, animosity toward, or criticism of them. Instead, it is “hate” or “anti-Semitism.”

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous

    Steve has it right. No need to imitate the duplicitous. For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy. Of course, that hate-envy is just as dangerous as the former.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

  73. I think American women are starting to get into the idea that when the Muslims take over, they can throw their yoga pants away.

    It’s mostly in the delivery, but this is one of your funniest lines ever, to me! Yeah, only 5% of women who wear yoga pants SHOULD be wearing them. I wonder what those hot ones will have to say about the changes – tighter burkas?

    They won’t have to diet or workout or worry about their hair anymore. They’ll just wear hijabs and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.

    Or they can have just slits and simply worry about what shade contacts to wear. If nothing else good comes out of this, women will FINALLY be on time to appointments … I mean, depending on the trains and buses … cause, you know, … no driving and all that. It’ll be a more punctual, traffic-friendly country. I for one, welcome our Somalian overlords.

    (I look forward to reading the Takimag article, Steve – gotta go for now.)

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Achmed E. Newman

    And not being able to divorce their husbands so easily while being subjected to potentially easy divorce by their husbands will tend to keep them in line. Adding up to another three wives would as well.

  74. 1. Invade
    2. Invite
    3. Incite(to hate whitey)
    4. Insult(for seeing Jews as super-whitey)

  75. What Omar said about AIPAC was Tru-Semitic. Truth about Jewish Power. Just Ask the Palestinians.

  76. Some Scottish guy named MacDonald makes an excellent point about the evangelicals getting just about none of their moral and cultural policies pushed in Swamp City DC but they do get the ISRAEL FIRST stuff pushed in Swamp City DC.

    Is this because the forces of ISRAEL FIRST treason use the evangelical vote as a fig leaf to hide the power of the Jew donors and Jew media owners?

    Kevin MacDonald can be counted on to use his Scottish discernment powers to bring things into better focus.

    Look at ISRAEL FIRST Jew Ham Saban and ISRAEL FIRST Harpy Hillary Clinton:

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    @Charles Pewitt

    And Hillary's daughter (some are not sure that it's Bill's) married a Jew. So has Ivanka, who converted to Orthodox and had her sons circumcised. Trump's two older sons also married Jews. So did Caroline Kennedy. And then there's Prez hopeful Kamala Harris, married to a Jew with two grown step-children, but none of her own.

    I recently saw a hilarious video about Kamala by a black comedian/commenter. He said that Kamala has no chance of winning the WH because blacks will never vote for a race traitor. OTOH, Obama, perhaps thinking ahead, married a black woman. Without the black vote, he said, a Democrat can't win, which is pretty common knowledge. Something for the D's to think about.

    I'm not convinced, however, that Evangelicals have no power. John Hagee's Christians United for Israel are nothing more than Netanyahu's Useful Idiots, but, without them, no Republican could be elected POTUS.

    , @Corvinus
    @Charles Pewitt

    "Look at ISRAEL FIRST Jew Ham Saban and ISRAEL FIRST Harpy Hillary Clinton"

    Perhaps you neglected to NOTICE, but check out Comment 182. Clearly, Trump is about ISRAEL FIRST.

    Furthermore, a good deal of evangelicals voted for Trump--despite his own repeated immoral conduct that supposedly they abhor.

    So, how is your campaign for running for political office coming?

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

  77. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.

    I understand the median White American living as of early 2019 was b.1974, and at some point in coming months it will roll over to the median White American being b.1975. Which is to say, most of us (the living) missed out on Peak USA. And yet still the warm glow of the peak lasted for many years to come. The glow for the first time looks distinctly dim, to many, partly chronicled at iSteve over the 2000s and 2010s.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Hail


    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.
     
    I agree. I would place the peak in the years 1969 to 1976 - the Moon landing to the Bicentennial. There was a lot of good feeling in the country surrounding the bicentennial; the country was at peace and reasonably happy with itself. The 80s weren't bad, and even the 90s weren't so bad, although the rot was setting in. By the time of Bush the Younger (Lesser, Dumber, etc.), it became plain that the wheels were coming off.

    Replies: @Flip, @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @Lagertha

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Hail


    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.
     
    I am inclined to agree.

    Ironically, at the time, the national zeitgeist was supposedly one of disillusionment and malaise over Vietnam, Watergate, oil crisis, etc.

    But really, Detente and the end of the Vietnam War (for us, anyway) had taken a lot of the Cold War angst out of the culture. The country was very young demographically and the 60's counterculture had mellowed and dissolved out to the masses as a sort of groovy have-fun ethos. A young blue-collar worker could still make enough money to rent a good apartment and buy a big, ugly Mustang.

    Definitely an underrated time period, especially compared to the obnoxiously over-hyped 1960's.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    , @The Last Real Calvinist
    @Hail


    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.
     
    So disco really did ruin everything, much as we Gen Xers realized in retrospect.
  78. @Anon
    The conservative Power Line blog authored by some Minnesota attorneys and a journalist/UC Berkeley academic has had dozens and dozens of posts criticizing Omar over the years, including the good possibility that she married a Somali in 2002, had three children, married her brother in 2009, and brought him to the U.S. They repeatedly said that the local paper refused to look into what would be bigamy plus immigration fraud. Here's one of their earliest posts on the subject:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/ilhan-omar-her-back-pages.php

    Inputting "ilhan" in their site search box will bring up page after page of subsequent posts.

    It's such a weird accusation that, given that the local media is ignoring it, you're inclined to write it off as a nutty conspiracy theory. But the Power Line guys are a sober, respectable group of guys whose podcast I listen to, so ... I don't know what to think.

    Replies: @Kaganovitch, @AndrewR, @Mike1, @larry lurker

    It’s a stretch to call an organization conservative when it has aggressive Never Trumpers writing for them. At this point you cannot pretend to be conservative and also anti Trump.

  79. Priss Factor [AKA "Asagirian"] says: • Website
    @countenance
    A few points:

    (1) I don't think AIPAC is a powerful lobby as such. I think its perceived power comes from having a parasitic relationship with the actually powerful military-industrial complex lobby like the remora has with the shark.

    (2) I think the purpose of Jewish donorism to both actual political candidates and one level below them think tanks really isn't to buy a pro-Israel policy from the United States, because the United States would be pro-Israel regardless for a few other reasons. I think the real purpose of Jewish donorism is to rooster block gentile-led populist and nationalist political ambitions.

    (3) Gradually, then suddenly, the American mainstream left developed its own JQ. As far as that goes, they're catching up to the European mainstream left, which, in spite of anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States, ironically has never been in love with Jews or Israel.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Priss Factor, @Lot

    in spite of anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States

    It’s really ANXI-Semitism, or anxiety(totally warranted) about Jewish Power.

    The real problem with Jewish Power is not that it is powerful. Power can be checked if criticized. It’s that Jews are sacred and can’t be criticized. When the most powerful group has protected status, the result is protected supremacism, the most dangerous kind. It’s like treating a rich person as a poor one. Or like pretending that a swarm of locusts belongs on the endangered species list. Or responding to record rainfall and flooding as if we are in the middle of a drought.

    Because we can’t be honest about Jewish Power, we are overcome with anxiety.

    According to globo-homo Inversality, poor whites have ‘white privilege’ whereas even Jews who fund AIPAC are the most innocent nobodies. That’s the state of power dynamics in the world we live in.

    • Agree: follyofwar
  80. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092210825228636161

    https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1092219347429396480

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092227273682550784

    https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1092229114143141889

    https://twitter.com/mkoplow/status/1092230000965750784

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1095400443562344454

    https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1095418717708734465

    Replies: @Escher, @Trevor H., @YetAnotherAnon, @Hail, @RobertTS, @Pericles, @El Dato

    Just who is Michael Tracey, anyway?

    He is good, but also one of those whose Twitter-cart is way before his IRL-horse. Very little info on him online. He simply tags himself “roving journalist.”

    Michael Tracey [Verified account] @mtracey
    6 minutes ago

    There’s something so condescending and arrogant in the assumption that a Somali-American refugee has to understand the convoluted “tropes” that offend these successful, mainstream, influential people, but they have no obligation to “understand” her perfectly valid viewpoint

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Hail

    He's in the Jill Stein/Tulsi group of the far right's favorite far leftists.

    They don't have a great name to describe them, but might be called Young Chomskys.

    , @Charles Pewitt
    @Hail

    Michael Tracey is a damn puppy dog dope who overthinks everything.

    This Michael Tracey guy was concerned about the proper time to allow after George HW Bush croaked to give an honest and true depiction of what shady things Bushy #1 did and was involved in.

    My thought was to start pounding on that globalizer bastard George HW Bush as soon as I heard or saw that he had kicked the bucket.

    George HW Bush would have probably thought it was funny for somebody to eschew the formalities about attacking the departed so soon after they expired. John McCain would have laughed too. I hated both George HW Bush and McCain, but they had a sense of humour -- a crappy one, but they had it.

  81. @Tyrion 2
    Perhaps a line about Somali politicians can be added to this old joke?

    Hell is where the police are German, the cooks are English, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and it is all organised by the Italians”

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Brobert, @bomag

    Tyron, “and where the Somalis set the clock back every hour.”

  82. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    Hard to feel any sympathy for them. They were the generation that oversaw the destruction, and silently stood by.

    Now, the smart white people are preparing while the clueless majority march towards the slaughter like sheep.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    "Now, the smart white people are preparing while the clueless majority march towards the slaughter like sheep."

    So what makes you one of these "smart white people"? Furthermore, are not your fellow whites also part of this "clueless majority march"? If so, that is an anti-white statement.

    It's not who we are.

  83. @Tyrion 2
    Perhaps a line about Somali politicians can be added to this old joke?

    Hell is where the police are German, the cooks are English, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and it is all organised by the Italians”

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Brobert, @bomag

    Hell is Somalia?

    Nice and simple. Somalians are a hopelessly retarded people. While I may be somewhat racist, I can think of decent people from every race…. except somalians.

    Every single somalian is stupid, slow, thuggish, and generally dead weight on humanity that should be quarantined and left to starve in their native shithole. I can’t speak lowly enough about them.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Sorry, but you've got that wrong.

    Somalis are anything *but* retarded.

    They are the absolute masters of gaming whitey's immigration and welfare systems. Think about it, if 'smarts' actually matter for anything in life, surely, parasitism - getting some other dumb bastard to do all the work for you - is the way to go. After all, the world belongs to the bacteria - who will be here when Sapiens are long gone - and not to us.

    The real retards are The Economist whipped western political class who framed these sub-nematode brained immigration laws. And perhaps the white voters who keep voting the retards in.

    , @Anonymous
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I've never met any of these people. What makes them worse than the average African?

  84. @Hail
    @Dave Pinsen

    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.

    I understand the median White American living as of early 2019 was b.1974, and at some point in coming months it will roll over to the median White American being b.1975. Which is to say, most of us (the living) missed out on Peak USA. And yet still the warm glow of the peak lasted for many years to come. The glow for the first time looks distinctly dim, to many, partly chronicled at iSteve over the 2000s and 2010s.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.

    I agree. I would place the peak in the years 1969 to 1976 – the Moon landing to the Bicentennial. There was a lot of good feeling in the country surrounding the bicentennial; the country was at peace and reasonably happy with itself. The 80s weren’t bad, and even the 90s weren’t so bad, although the rot was setting in. By the time of Bush the Younger (Lesser, Dumber, etc.), it became plain that the wheels were coming off.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Mr. Anon

    You think so? I remember social turmoil from the draft and the Vietnam War and then high inflation and gas shortages.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Mr. Anon

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ3ugB74UNU

    , @Desiderius
    @Mr. Anon

    Don Cornelius does beat the hell out of Tennessee Coates, so there’s that.

    , @Lagertha
    @Mr. Anon

    While on a sailboat, in the NYC harbor, I would suggest 1976-1986 (before Reagan started to have cognitive impairment) as peak time.
    https://binged.it/2SP80re

    https://binged.it/2N3s2sH

  85. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    Popular wisdom would have it that the 1950’s were a time when conservative values prevailed. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The fifties saw the introduction of television into every home. This was a radical, unprecedented development in human history. For the first time someone uninvited, some foreign consciousness was autonomously functioning in the very bosom of your home and it was relentless. It could go on nonstop. Even if you were in the next room, you couldn’t help but subconsciously hear its drone.

    Prior to television, human interaction was face to face. Communicating meant that you were half of a give and take dialogue–even when you spoke over the telephone. But television is different. It talks and projects and you listen and watch. It’s one way. And that simple distinction has altered the consciousness of all of us.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Northeast
    @ThreeCranes

    The seeds of cultural collapse are difficult to pinpoint. They are deposited unseen & early. The apex of Americal civic culture was the 1950s IMO. That did not mean that the rot was not lurking already....it always is.

    Can you imagine America 2019 calling upon its citizens nationwide to study science in its schools to engage in the space race with the Soviets like was asked by Ike & Kennedy? America is currently much more concerned with legalizing weed & casinos being dropped into every state.

    I suppose the libertarians think this is progress.

    Replies: @Corn, @Joe Stalin, @AndrewR

  86. What Shepard Fairey always brings to mind:

  87. @Tyrion 2
    Perhaps a line about Somali politicians can be added to this old joke?

    Hell is where the police are German, the cooks are English, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and it is all organised by the Italians”

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Brobert, @bomag

    The joke works because those people are good at certain things, but put in the wrong chair. What are Somalis good at?

    • Agree: res
  88. Steve, is that “impact of a single liar” study you mentioned worth its own iSteve post?


    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330778188_Conditional_dishonesty

    I found this tweet in the thread to be incredibly depressing:


    This is why we can’t have nice things.

    Anyone have any idea why the tweeter added Eliezer Yudkowsky in the reply?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @res

    99% of modern politics seems to be stating that the people you don't like are cheating on civilised norms and that this justifies cheating back.

    This ties into Rene Girard's theories of mimesis and competition. He argued that societies went through these spirals and only settled after sacrificing a scapegoat. Dramatic historical examples of scapegoats include the Armenians (Ottomans), the successful farmers (USSR), the educated people (Khmer Rouge) etc.

    Basically, the competing groups of "cheaters" would find a sub-group to lay all of the blame on, and then punish them.

    The surviving members of the sacrificed scapegoats would, in the aftermath, be rendered holy and this would continue through the next cycle because their death would have brought social peace.

    Being a Catholic, he saw the Christian telling of the scapegoating of Jesus, the son of God, as a way to end this cycle as its ritualisation, through the drinking of the blood, Easter and so on, would satisfy this need instead. It built on and improved on the core function of the Abraham and Isaac story.

    Of course, for this to be true, it was also necessary for him to, not unreasonably, hold that ritualisation and even "play" could serve to satisfy the weird needs arising out of human social interaction.

    I found his explanations pretty convincing but please be aware that I read his stuff a while ago and I will not have been able to do it justice. Also, I suspect this is why the tweeter added Mr Yudkowsky in the reply.

    Replies: @res, @Thea, @Tex

  89. anonymous[192] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s interesting that in this coalition of the fringe the Muslim contingent that’s being sold to us is not real Islam at all but a leftist shell. Islam here seems to be represented by women whereas in Islamic countries that wouldn’t be the case at all except for some exceptional slots but that wouldn’t be considered typical. Also, championing transsexuals would be a bizarre notion in an Islamic country yet over here we’ve got Omar worried about some weirdo powerlifter. It’s a fake image of Islam that’s being promoted to the gullible. And yes, the next spin is that their restrictive clothing is actually liberating in that they no longer have to feel the need to keep up in the looks department. After all, yoga and jogging are just so taxing for women who work full-time jobs. Just apply a lot of face paint and you’re ready to go. There’ll be a lot of Benjamins for Omar once she learns to play the game and read off her script.

    • Agree: Ghost of Bull Moose
  90. Newly elected Somali Muslim Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishu)

    Lately of Minnesota’s 5th Congressional District:

    Population (2016): 708,082
    Median income: $63,202

    Ethnicity
    67.39% White
    16.64% Black
    6.05% Asian
    8.81% Hispanic
    1.23% Native American

    The seat was held by Martin Sabo (1938-2016), of typical Minnesota Norwegian stock, from Jan. 1979 to Jan. 2007, at which time the seat passed to light-skinned Black Keith Ellison (b.1963), a Muslim convert (converted from Catholicism, early 1980s) and longtime Nation of Islam’er.

    The seat was given to Keith Ellison presumably to finally allow a historically oppressed Nonwhite a chance against entrenched Minnesota racism.

    How did Ellison actually get in? See MN-5 Democratic primary, 2006:

    Keith Ellison 29,003 41.2%
    Mike Erlandson 21,857 31.1%
    Ember Reichgott Junge 14,454 20.5%
    Paul Ostrow 3,795 5.4%

    He squeaked by in the primary against two White men and a White woman, at least two of the latter being Lutherans (Junge and Ostrow) and the third and White frontrunner, Erlandson (b.1964), the chief of staff for Rep. Sabo (from 1993 to 2007), has a Scandinavian name. (Erlandson would clearly have been the better representative given his experience, but was Joe Crowley’ed out.)

    As the district is a D Lock, Ellison ‘won’ with, in fact, only around 6% of the adult citizen vote via the June 2006 primary.

    Knowing nothing else on that race in mid 2006, I assume a monolithic Black vote for Ellison (up to one-fourth of Dem. primary voters may have been Black) and a heavy Asian+Hispanic vote for the Nonwhite candidate, foreshadowing the 2008 Presidential General when another educated Black with at-least-vague ties to Islam repeated the same on grander scale.

    That MN-5 Dem Primary Coalition of the Fringes alone, in mid 2006, would still not have been enough to deliver the nomination to Nation-of-Islam’er Ellison given White unity in MN-5, though. The difference will have been Jews and White virtue-signallers defecting to Ellison to…”finally give a historically oppressed Nonwhite a chance against entrenched Minnesota racism.”

    Ellison moved on in 2016, but the seat is now seemingly reserved as a Nonwhite seat, hence the promotion of dubious character Ilhan Omar (b.1981, Somalia).

    Presidential election results in MN-5:

    2008 Obama 74–24%
    2012 Obama 74–24%
    2016 Clinton 74–19%

    Unlike the rest of Minnesota, which had a big swing towards Trump and was within 1% of the popular vote of delivering its EVs to him, the MN-5th District swung towards a little towards Hillary in 2016.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Hail

    The bright side is having Ilhan Omar and Ellison (now state AG) as the face of young MN Democrats rather than Erlandson and Junge speeds up the GOP shift.

    Iowa shifted to the GOP incredibly fast. It went from safe non-competitive Obama in 2012 to Safe Trump in 2016. Wasn't even a swing state for one election. The only other example of this I think was WV.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Hail


    The seat was held by Martin Sabo (1938-2016), of typical Minnesota Norwegian stock, from Jan. 1979 to Jan. 2007...
     
    In 1992, he crushed a black businesswoman in the general election. Particularly in the blacker districts. (No precinct in Minnesota at the time had more than 64%.)

    Not surprising-- her mantra was "personal responsibility". (The "Labor" in "DFL" is mostly for show.)

    Sabo would pull out his middle name during election season, just so everybody knew: Martin Olav Sabo.
    , @George
    @Hail

    It is noteworthy that the district which Omar became a state representative was represented by the same Jewish lady for 44 years. Omar got amazingly lucky when Ellison fell victim to some sort of morales challenge. This is similar to Ocasio Cortez winning a surprise primary election victory against some Irishish guy that was also in office for too long. Both Omar and Ocasio Cortez seem at least to be smart and well organized.

    Replies: @Chris Renner, @J.Ross

  91. @Tyrion 2
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Can you explain what this anti-BDS law actually does?

    Replies: @neutral, @Buzz Mohawk, @Sowhat, @Lot

    It is mostly symbolic and supportive of local laws.

    Between watering it down to get passed and the First Amendment, it is the strongest we cam expect. And Pelosi isn’t going to let it come up for a vote in the House.

    The GOP is united behind Israel. Dems are now about 55/45 split in favor. They saw what happened to Corbyn and Labour and want no part of it. Though of course it is inevitable.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @istevefan
    @Lot

    I still don't get the fuss about BDS. From what I've heard BDS is a joke and has no material effect on Israel. In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @Hypnotoad666

    , @Anonymous
    @Lot


    They saw what happened to Corbyn and Labour and want no part of it.
     
    What happened to Corbyn and Labour?

    Replies: @Lot

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Lot


    Between watering it down to get passed and the First Amendment, it is the strongest we cam expect.
     
    Pretty clear who you mean by "we". The rest of us - who don't belong to your tribe - have zero interest in supporting laws that suppress our civil liberties. Civil liberties you seem quite happy to s**t all over.
  92. Omar was being far more clever than you give her credit with her “all about the Benjamins” comment. It was a double entendre referencing *Benjamin Netanyahu.* No other reason to quote an outdated cheesedoodle pop lyric.

  93. @Hail

    Newly elected Somali Muslim Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishu)
     
    Lately of Minnesota's 5th Congressional District:

    Population (2016): 708,082
    Median income: $63,202

    Ethnicity
    67.39% White
    16.64% Black
    6.05% Asian
    8.81% Hispanic
    1.23% Native American
     

    The seat was held by Martin Sabo (1938-2016), of typical Minnesota Norwegian stock, from Jan. 1979 to Jan. 2007, at which time the seat passed to light-skinned Black Keith Ellison (b.1963), a Muslim convert (converted from Catholicism, early 1980s) and longtime Nation of Islam'er.

    The seat was given to Keith Ellison presumably to finally allow a historically oppressed Nonwhite a chance against entrenched Minnesota racism.

    How did Ellison actually get in? See MN-5 Democratic primary, 2006:


    Keith Ellison 29,003 41.2%
    Mike Erlandson 21,857 31.1%
    Ember Reichgott Junge 14,454 20.5%
    Paul Ostrow 3,795 5.4%
     
    He squeaked by in the primary against two White men and a White woman, at least two of the latter being Lutherans (Junge and Ostrow) and the third and White frontrunner, Erlandson (b.1964), the chief of staff for Rep. Sabo (from 1993 to 2007), has a Scandinavian name. (Erlandson would clearly have been the better representative given his experience, but was Joe Crowley'ed out.)

    As the district is a D Lock, Ellison 'won' with, in fact, only around 6% of the adult citizen vote via the June 2006 primary.

    Knowing nothing else on that race in mid 2006, I assume a monolithic Black vote for Ellison (up to one-fourth of Dem. primary voters may have been Black) and a heavy Asian+Hispanic vote for the Nonwhite candidate, foreshadowing the 2008 Presidential General when another educated Black with at-least-vague ties to Islam repeated the same on grander scale.

    That MN-5 Dem Primary Coalition of the Fringes alone, in mid 2006, would still not have been enough to deliver the nomination to Nation-of-Islam'er Ellison given White unity in MN-5, though. The difference will have been Jews and White virtue-signallers defecting to Ellison to..."finally give a historically oppressed Nonwhite a chance against entrenched Minnesota racism."

    Ellison moved on in 2016, but the seat is now seemingly reserved as a Nonwhite seat, hence the promotion of dubious character Ilhan Omar (b.1981, Somalia).

    Presidential election results in MN-5:


    2008 Obama 74–24%
    2012 Obama 74–24%
    2016 Clinton 74–19%
     
    Unlike the rest of Minnesota, which had a big swing towards Trump and was within 1% of the popular vote of delivering its EVs to him, the MN-5th District swung towards a little towards Hillary in 2016.

    Replies: @Lot, @Reg Cæsar, @George

    The bright side is having Ilhan Omar and Ellison (now state AG) as the face of young MN Democrats rather than Erlandson and Junge speeds up the GOP shift.

    Iowa shifted to the GOP incredibly fast. It went from safe non-competitive Obama in 2012 to Safe Trump in 2016. Wasn’t even a swing state for one election. The only other example of this I think was WV.

    • Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Lot


    Iowa shifted to the GOP incredibly fast. It went from safe non-competitive Obama in 2012 to Safe Trump in 2016.
     
    Sure, and then in 2018 3/4 House seats went to the Dems and the Republican governor only narrowly won.

    Never underestimate the stupidity of the average white voter.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  94. @countenance
    A few points:

    (1) I don't think AIPAC is a powerful lobby as such. I think its perceived power comes from having a parasitic relationship with the actually powerful military-industrial complex lobby like the remora has with the shark.

    (2) I think the purpose of Jewish donorism to both actual political candidates and one level below them think tanks really isn't to buy a pro-Israel policy from the United States, because the United States would be pro-Israel regardless for a few other reasons. I think the real purpose of Jewish donorism is to rooster block gentile-led populist and nationalist political ambitions.

    (3) Gradually, then suddenly, the American mainstream left developed its own JQ. As far as that goes, they're catching up to the European mainstream left, which, in spite of anti-Semitism being far more verboten in Europe than the United States, ironically has never been in love with Jews or Israel.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @AndrewR, @Priss Factor, @Lot

    Little overstated but basically all correct.

  95. @Arclight
    I've been wondering about this for awhile - Democrats (as pointed out, with a major financial assist from Jewish donors) have been electing more and more people who don't actually like Jews, and certainly are not as enamored with Israel as the typical GOPer. At what point will we see a meaningful impact on donations?

    A friend of mine is a huge Israel booster and a pretty committed Democrat. But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment. Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn't really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back.

    Replies: @Lot, @Flip, @Anonymous

    “Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn’t really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back.”

    He may start caring if Israel ever is seriously threatened.

    “But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment.”

    Dem office holders are still solidly Israel. The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems. But on things like military aid, they vote something like 200-6 in favor of Israel in the House and 50-0 in the Senate.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Lot


    Dem office holders are still solidly Israel. The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems.
     
    Yes. I believe this is it.

    I also found the following article quite informative on this strange anti-BDS legislation. I really didn't understand what it was about.

    https://www.bloombergquint.com/view/anti-bds-bill-approved-by-senate-avoids-first-amendment-questions#gs.YYZXU7qo

    Anyway, judging by the UK Labour party supporters' reactions to their movement now being tarnished with association with anti-Semitism, it may well work.

    It seems that the British right wing found a few real elements of anti-Semitism on the left, levelled the accusation again and again, and watched the stupider elements of the left almost embrace it in reaction. This has now horrified the rest of the left and kept their movement, that had real, amazing momentum, distracted for an entire year. It hasn't been particularly good for Jews, as it has created a few real anti-Semites on the left, but it has been pretty good for the British right. I am not personally enamoured with these types of games but I have enjoyed watching the progressives being hoisted on their own petard nonetheless.

    I've also had a number of progressive goodthinkers tell me, I suppose as a show of support, that they won't vote Labour in these circumstances. The last time it was sparked by an over-excited Labour activist posting a meme about Netanyahu being Hitler on Facebook on my friend's feed. Said goodthinker wasn't sympathetic to Israel but was clearly turned off by the hyperbolic and obviously mean-spirited comparison.

    I'm not saying this was all planned out and perhaps my explanation above is far too cynical, but it is a description of the process that has unfolded.

    Anyway, it seems it isn't generally a good idea to style oneself as one's enemies pragmatically choose to portray you. You lose friends pretty fast and your movement grinds to a standstill. Who'd have known...

    , @Svigor
    @Lot

    QFT.

    , @istevefan
    @Lot


    The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems.
     
    It was not engineered to split the Dems. It was about delivering to their supporters. And they came through like they always do. If only the GOP base could get the same devotion.

    PS. If you want to harm the democrats you need to split off from them the people most likely to support our positions. Namely, there is around 44 percent of the White vote that still votes for the openly anti-White party. I'd say at least a third to a half of them could probably agree with our positions,but don't because they are either not informed due to MSM programming, or they are virtual signaling for social gain.

    If you split off the Jewish vote from the democrats you will obviously hurt their fundraising. However, the last time we took into the party a bunch of renegade left-wing Jews it did not work out well. We got invade-the-world-invite-the-world on steroids. I am concerned that if the democrat Jewish vote up and left for the GOP, they would not suddenly become immigration restrictionists like us. But rather they would push the GOP to support looser immigration even more than the Chamber of Commerce has.

    Since I don't see the majority of Jews ever abandoning politics and just staying on the sideline, I don't see how to split them from the democrats without it backfiring on us. Either they stay with the democrats and keep the status quo, or they join the GOP and totally transform that party to suit their views.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Lot, @Lot, @Whiskey

  96. Anonymous[749] • Disclaimer says:

    Israel Lobby’s idea of good faith on the anti-BDS legislation:

    “Yes, sure, we tried to outright strip Americans of their First Amendment rights in the first draft of the bill. But you caught us, and now we have “watered down” some of our harsher demands. For now. So you should be happy. Remember we are your friends!”

  97. “All about the Benjamin’s” was technically a biggie song. Although I think the puff daddy version with rob zombie was a better version of it.

    I welcome the coming Islamization, if only that it bans yoga pants and forces women to put some clothes on. Maybe we can codify the ban through existing indecent exposure laws? Or maybe we can fight the yoga pant offense by popularizing them among men. Then eveyones genitals would be on display for the world to see. It would be a regression of civic discourse, but at least it would level the sexual playing field. At the moment it is culturally acceptable for women to wear yoga pants in public while it is unacceptable for me to call them immodest whores.

  98. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    This looks like a staged photo for Ford’s Mustang. But your point is well-taken.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @SunBakedSuburb

    That could have been a pretty typical scene on cruise nights on Van Nuys boulevard back then. It used to draw a lot of young people. I shake my head now over how much gas it took my friend to drive his ‘Cuda with a built 440 and dual quads on a tunnel ram, from the Beach Cities to the Valley and back on cruise night.

  99. @res
    Steve, is that "impact of a single liar" study you mentioned worth its own iSteve post?
    https://twitter.com/ValerioCapraro/status/1093882644885049344
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/330778188_Conditional_dishonesty

    I found this tweet in the thread to be incredibly depressing:
    https://twitter.com/ic4rus1/status/1094964174147518464
    This is why we can't have nice things.

    Anyone have any idea why the tweeter added Eliezer Yudkowsky in the reply?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    99% of modern politics seems to be stating that the people you don’t like are cheating on civilised norms and that this justifies cheating back.

    This ties into Rene Girard’s theories of mimesis and competition. He argued that societies went through these spirals and only settled after sacrificing a scapegoat. Dramatic historical examples of scapegoats include the Armenians (Ottomans), the successful farmers (USSR), the educated people (Khmer Rouge) etc.

    Basically, the competing groups of “cheaters” would find a sub-group to lay all of the blame on, and then punish them.

    The surviving members of the sacrificed scapegoats would, in the aftermath, be rendered holy and this would continue through the next cycle because their death would have brought social peace.

    Being a Catholic, he saw the Christian telling of the scapegoating of Jesus, the son of God, as a way to end this cycle as its ritualisation, through the drinking of the blood, Easter and so on, would satisfy this need instead. It built on and improved on the core function of the Abraham and Isaac story.

    Of course, for this to be true, it was also necessary for him to, not unreasonably, hold that ritualisation and even “play” could serve to satisfy the weird needs arising out of human social interaction.

    I found his explanations pretty convincing but please be aware that I read his stuff a while ago and I will not have been able to do it justice. Also, I suspect this is why the tweeter added Mr Yudkowsky in the reply.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @res
    @Tyrion 2

    Thanks!

    , @Thea
    @Tyrion 2

    Fascinating idea

    , @Tex
    @Tyrion 2


    The surviving members of the sacrificed scapegoats would, in the aftermath, be rendered holy and this would continue through the next cycle because their death would have brought social peace.
     
    Armenians are treated with reverence in Turkey these days?

    I guess Indians (feather not dot) get rather exaggerated respect in the USA, but we're not Turks. I think Jews have it way better than Injuns in the US and the worst that happened to Jews in America was that they had to earn their livings. We're a lot more likely to bomb Damascus, Syria than Custer, SD.

    This whole "survivors become holy" thing seems a little too hit-or-miss to support Mr. Girard's assertions.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  100. @Dieter Kief
    @Dave Pinsen

    Great picture, thanks! Heartwarming.


    "It's like you standing in the window / Of a house nobody lives in / And I'm sitting in the car /
    Across the way/ It's an early model Chevrolet..."

    Jackson Browne, Late for the Sky.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Dave Pinsen

    Jackson Browne wrote many great songs. Late for the Sky is one of his best.

  101. @Hail
    @Anonymous

    Just who is Michael Tracey, anyway?

    He is good, but also one of those whose Twitter-cart is way before his IRL-horse. Very little info on him online. He simply tags himself "roving journalist."


    Michael Tracey [Verified account] @mtracey
    6 minutes ago

    There's something so condescending and arrogant in the assumption that a Somali-American refugee has to understand the convoluted "tropes" that offend these successful, mainstream, influential people, but they have no obligation to "understand" her perfectly valid viewpoint
     

    Replies: @Lot, @Charles Pewitt

    He’s in the Jill Stein/Tulsi group of the far right’s favorite far leftists.

    They don’t have a great name to describe them, but might be called Young Chomskys.

  102. @Hail

    Newly elected Somali Muslim Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishu)
     
    Lately of Minnesota's 5th Congressional District:

    Population (2016): 708,082
    Median income: $63,202

    Ethnicity
    67.39% White
    16.64% Black
    6.05% Asian
    8.81% Hispanic
    1.23% Native American
     

    The seat was held by Martin Sabo (1938-2016), of typical Minnesota Norwegian stock, from Jan. 1979 to Jan. 2007, at which time the seat passed to light-skinned Black Keith Ellison (b.1963), a Muslim convert (converted from Catholicism, early 1980s) and longtime Nation of Islam'er.

    The seat was given to Keith Ellison presumably to finally allow a historically oppressed Nonwhite a chance against entrenched Minnesota racism.

    How did Ellison actually get in? See MN-5 Democratic primary, 2006:


    Keith Ellison 29,003 41.2%
    Mike Erlandson 21,857 31.1%
    Ember Reichgott Junge 14,454 20.5%
    Paul Ostrow 3,795 5.4%
     
    He squeaked by in the primary against two White men and a White woman, at least two of the latter being Lutherans (Junge and Ostrow) and the third and White frontrunner, Erlandson (b.1964), the chief of staff for Rep. Sabo (from 1993 to 2007), has a Scandinavian name. (Erlandson would clearly have been the better representative given his experience, but was Joe Crowley'ed out.)

    As the district is a D Lock, Ellison 'won' with, in fact, only around 6% of the adult citizen vote via the June 2006 primary.

    Knowing nothing else on that race in mid 2006, I assume a monolithic Black vote for Ellison (up to one-fourth of Dem. primary voters may have been Black) and a heavy Asian+Hispanic vote for the Nonwhite candidate, foreshadowing the 2008 Presidential General when another educated Black with at-least-vague ties to Islam repeated the same on grander scale.

    That MN-5 Dem Primary Coalition of the Fringes alone, in mid 2006, would still not have been enough to deliver the nomination to Nation-of-Islam'er Ellison given White unity in MN-5, though. The difference will have been Jews and White virtue-signallers defecting to Ellison to..."finally give a historically oppressed Nonwhite a chance against entrenched Minnesota racism."

    Ellison moved on in 2016, but the seat is now seemingly reserved as a Nonwhite seat, hence the promotion of dubious character Ilhan Omar (b.1981, Somalia).

    Presidential election results in MN-5:


    2008 Obama 74–24%
    2012 Obama 74–24%
    2016 Clinton 74–19%
     
    Unlike the rest of Minnesota, which had a big swing towards Trump and was within 1% of the popular vote of delivering its EVs to him, the MN-5th District swung towards a little towards Hillary in 2016.

    Replies: @Lot, @Reg Cæsar, @George

    The seat was held by Martin Sabo (1938-2016), of typical Minnesota Norwegian stock, from Jan. 1979 to Jan. 2007…

    In 1992, he crushed a black businesswoman in the general election. Particularly in the blacker districts. (No precinct in Minnesota at the time had more than 64%.)

    Not surprising– her mantra was “personal responsibility”. (The “Labor” in “DFL” is mostly for show.)

    Sabo would pull out his middle name during election season, just so everybody knew: Martin Olav Sabo.

  103. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092210825228636161

    https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1092219347429396480

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092227273682550784

    https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1092229114143141889

    https://twitter.com/mkoplow/status/1092230000965750784

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1095400443562344454

    https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1095418717708734465

    Replies: @Escher, @Trevor H., @YetAnotherAnon, @Hail, @RobertTS, @Pericles, @El Dato

    One of the interesting subtexts in this whole drama has been watching Jewish progressives with otherwise impeccable anti-Zionist and/or anti-AIPAC credentials (such as Max Berger or Batya Ungar Sargon – whose tweeted exchanges w Omar set off this whole thing) trying to ride the PoC/Coalition of the Ascendant Tiger into combat with the Pale Stale Male who, they swear, is the only bearer of anti-Jewish sentiment. And yet for all that, still they get smacked down by the likes of Tracey, Mehdi Hassan and other far-left pundits for insufficient obeisance towards the Hijabbed Apex of the New Hierarchy.

    Then again, progressive American Jews likely view anti-Semitism through a parochial lens wherein stormtroopers and cossacks are the only plausible threats to them, with scant interest in the historical tribulations of MENA Jews living among the PoC.

    After all, an Uzi-toting Yemenite in some West Bank trailer park is as appealing as a gap-toothed deplorable from eastern Kentucky, only he has swarthier skin.

    A fork in the road lies ahead.

  104. @Lot
    @Tyrion 2

    It is mostly symbolic and supportive of local laws.

    Between watering it down to get passed and the First Amendment, it is the strongest we cam expect. And Pelosi isn't going to let it come up for a vote in the House.

    The GOP is united behind Israel. Dems are now about 55/45 split in favor. They saw what happened to Corbyn and Labour and want no part of it. Though of course it is inevitable.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    I still don’t get the fuss about BDS. From what I’ve heard BDS is a joke and has no material effect on Israel. In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @istevefan

    Lmao. The juice are ideological, not practical. They are so determined to make gains for themselves that they appear practical- right up until the moment any other reasonable people would say, "okay this seems like a good place to stop before we make everyone mad."

    They will not allow one voice to object. Not one. They will send in the tanks on every single whisper that questions their authority.

    , @Tyrion 2
    @istevefan

    Every time that the Republicans manage to provoke some Democrat into saying something stupid, the Republicans gain votes from the mainstream. The right isn't talking endlessly about Ilhan Omar's Tweets because they think it will help the Dems with the average voter! just as the left didn't endlessly mischaracterise Steve King's comments because they thought it'd help the Republicans.

    The problem, in 2016, for the Dems was that they'd been getting high on their own supply; so when Trump said things that were actually pretty innocuous the Dems broadcast them all over the place in faux outrage and looked stupid. At least, to those who had other sources of information.

    Oh no, Trump made a kind-hearted joke about Jewish donors! Oh no, Trump said many chicks dig celebrity billionaires! Oh no, Trump said that Mexico has a crime problem but that there are obviously still good people. The biggest problem for Trump was when the alt right took the media's characterisation semi-seriously and a handful of over-excited nitwits brandished swastika signs in Charlottesville.


    The game seems to be: brand your opponents as something obnoxious, wait for a handful of over-excited idiots on their side to embrace it and then broadcast it endlessly.

    Replies: @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Svigor
    @istevefan

    Jews take a very nip-it-in-the-bud approach.* They figure, and perhaps rightly so, that if they take BDS seriously and try to stamp it out and fail, they may have a serious problem brewing.

    *Can also be seen as Jewish princess-and-the-pea syndrome; Jews have been getting their way forever, in everything, but one little thing out of place and they're screaming bloody murder, because that's just their personality profile (they're gonna be kvetching about something, and circumstances don't always provide something worth kvetching about).

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @istevefan


    In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.
     
    If people want to have a dominatrix tie them up and force them to denounce Israel that's their business . . . . Or maybe I'm thinking of a different BDS movement. https://www.gq.com/story/bdsm-a-to-z
  105. Still, Omar seems to have been forgiven. She got her mind right, I take it.

    ‘…We appreciate Congresswoman Omar’s heartfelt apology…She has demonstrated genuine gratitude toward her Jewish allies for educating her on the painful history of anti-semitic tropes…’

    That’s the most viscerally humiliating grovel I’ve witnessed in recent history.

    Too, there’s a biting irony here. Whatever the shortcomings of Somalis, and whatever one’s reservations about them coming here, it would be absurd to deny Somalia is a miserable place, in which people suffer deeply and physically.

    Someone from there is expected to realize how painful it is to be a member of the most economically and politically privileged ethnic group in America. There, you’re a Somali — but at least you haven’t suffered the fate of American Jews.

    Not only is it all vicious and evil, it’s absurd.

  106. @Lot
    @Hail

    The bright side is having Ilhan Omar and Ellison (now state AG) as the face of young MN Democrats rather than Erlandson and Junge speeds up the GOP shift.

    Iowa shifted to the GOP incredibly fast. It went from safe non-competitive Obama in 2012 to Safe Trump in 2016. Wasn't even a swing state for one election. The only other example of this I think was WV.

    Replies: @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    Iowa shifted to the GOP incredibly fast. It went from safe non-competitive Obama in 2012 to Safe Trump in 2016.

    Sure, and then in 2018 3/4 House seats went to the Dems and the Republican governor only narrowly won.

    Never underestimate the stupidity of the average white voter.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I don’t know much about Iowa, but the recent resurgence of the Democratic Party next door in Wisconsin can be blamed squarely on the Republicans.

    Only extreme Gerrymandering allowed the Republicans to keep the state legislature. Democrats got 54% of the vote for 36% of the seats.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats won EVERY statewide office, and easily won a US Senate seat.

    The biggest vote getter for Republicans is the stupidity of the Democratic Party. The biggest vote getter for Democrats is the cupidity of the Republican Party. When the Republicans control everything, and blow it, voters will naturally turn to Democrats.

    Why did I vote for Democrats? Aside from being left of center, the GOP put up no candidates worth voting for. None. Congressman Pocan ran unopposed. Zero Republicans on the ballot for any local races. The statewide races were the worst group of Republicans on the ballot in my lifetime. Scott Walker was bad enough to turn my Republican wife solidly blue.

    Replies: @Marty

  107. ‘I still don’t get the fuss about BDS. From what I’ve heard BDS is a joke and has no material effect on Israel. In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.’

    If you’re in charge of making sure no one notices the emperor has no clothes, the last thing you can tolerate is a little boy running around shouting out the truth.

    For those who lie, the truth is intolerable. Those who speak it must be silenced.

  108. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:
    @istevefan
    @Lot

    I still don't get the fuss about BDS. From what I've heard BDS is a joke and has no material effect on Israel. In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @Hypnotoad666

    Lmao. The juice are ideological, not practical. They are so determined to make gains for themselves that they appear practical- right up until the moment any other reasonable people would say, “okay this seems like a good place to stop before we make everyone mad.”

    They will not allow one voice to object. Not one. They will send in the tanks on every single whisper that questions their authority.

  109. @Lot
    @Arclight

    "Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn’t really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back."

    He may start caring if Israel ever is seriously threatened.

    "But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment."

    Dem office holders are still solidly Israel. The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems. But on things like military aid, they vote something like 200-6 in favor of Israel in the House and 50-0 in the Senate.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @istevefan

    Dem office holders are still solidly Israel. The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems.

    Yes. I believe this is it.

    I also found the following article quite informative on this strange anti-BDS legislation. I really didn’t understand what it was about.

    https://www.bloombergquint.com/view/anti-bds-bill-approved-by-senate-avoids-first-amendment-questions#gs.YYZXU7qo

    Anyway, judging by the UK Labour party supporters’ reactions to their movement now being tarnished with association with anti-Semitism, it may well work.

    It seems that the British right wing found a few real elements of anti-Semitism on the left, levelled the accusation again and again, and watched the stupider elements of the left almost embrace it in reaction. This has now horrified the rest of the left and kept their movement, that had real, amazing momentum, distracted for an entire year. It hasn’t been particularly good for Jews, as it has created a few real anti-Semites on the left, but it has been pretty good for the British right. I am not personally enamoured with these types of games but I have enjoyed watching the progressives being hoisted on their own petard nonetheless.

    I’ve also had a number of progressive goodthinkers tell me, I suppose as a show of support, that they won’t vote Labour in these circumstances. The last time it was sparked by an over-excited Labour activist posting a meme about Netanyahu being Hitler on Facebook on my friend’s feed. Said goodthinker wasn’t sympathetic to Israel but was clearly turned off by the hyperbolic and obviously mean-spirited comparison.

    I’m not saying this was all planned out and perhaps my explanation above is far too cynical, but it is a description of the process that has unfolded.

    Anyway, it seems it isn’t generally a good idea to style oneself as one’s enemies pragmatically choose to portray you. You lose friends pretty fast and your movement grinds to a standstill. Who’d have known…

  110. @Hail

    Newly elected Somali Muslim Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-Mogadishu)
     
    Lately of Minnesota's 5th Congressional District:

    Population (2016): 708,082
    Median income: $63,202

    Ethnicity
    67.39% White
    16.64% Black
    6.05% Asian
    8.81% Hispanic
    1.23% Native American
     

    The seat was held by Martin Sabo (1938-2016), of typical Minnesota Norwegian stock, from Jan. 1979 to Jan. 2007, at which time the seat passed to light-skinned Black Keith Ellison (b.1963), a Muslim convert (converted from Catholicism, early 1980s) and longtime Nation of Islam'er.

    The seat was given to Keith Ellison presumably to finally allow a historically oppressed Nonwhite a chance against entrenched Minnesota racism.

    How did Ellison actually get in? See MN-5 Democratic primary, 2006:


    Keith Ellison 29,003 41.2%
    Mike Erlandson 21,857 31.1%
    Ember Reichgott Junge 14,454 20.5%
    Paul Ostrow 3,795 5.4%
     
    He squeaked by in the primary against two White men and a White woman, at least two of the latter being Lutherans (Junge and Ostrow) and the third and White frontrunner, Erlandson (b.1964), the chief of staff for Rep. Sabo (from 1993 to 2007), has a Scandinavian name. (Erlandson would clearly have been the better representative given his experience, but was Joe Crowley'ed out.)

    As the district is a D Lock, Ellison 'won' with, in fact, only around 6% of the adult citizen vote via the June 2006 primary.

    Knowing nothing else on that race in mid 2006, I assume a monolithic Black vote for Ellison (up to one-fourth of Dem. primary voters may have been Black) and a heavy Asian+Hispanic vote for the Nonwhite candidate, foreshadowing the 2008 Presidential General when another educated Black with at-least-vague ties to Islam repeated the same on grander scale.

    That MN-5 Dem Primary Coalition of the Fringes alone, in mid 2006, would still not have been enough to deliver the nomination to Nation-of-Islam'er Ellison given White unity in MN-5, though. The difference will have been Jews and White virtue-signallers defecting to Ellison to..."finally give a historically oppressed Nonwhite a chance against entrenched Minnesota racism."

    Ellison moved on in 2016, but the seat is now seemingly reserved as a Nonwhite seat, hence the promotion of dubious character Ilhan Omar (b.1981, Somalia).

    Presidential election results in MN-5:


    2008 Obama 74–24%
    2012 Obama 74–24%
    2016 Clinton 74–19%
     
    Unlike the rest of Minnesota, which had a big swing towards Trump and was within 1% of the popular vote of delivering its EVs to him, the MN-5th District swung towards a little towards Hillary in 2016.

    Replies: @Lot, @Reg Cæsar, @George

    It is noteworthy that the district which Omar became a state representative was represented by the same Jewish lady for 44 years. Omar got amazingly lucky when Ellison fell victim to some sort of morales challenge. This is similar to Ocasio Cortez winning a surprise primary election victory against some Irishish guy that was also in office for too long. Both Omar and Ocasio Cortez seem at least to be smart and well organized.

    • Replies: @Chris Renner
    @George


    Omar got amazingly lucky when Ellison fell victim to some sort of morales challenge.
     
    That's not correct; the seat was open because Ellison decided to run for Minnesota Attorney General instead. And unfortunately, the voters didn't care that he beat up his girlfriend - he still won.
    , @J.Ross
    @George

    These remarkably lucky surprises are the foreign tide rising and they will only get more frequent.

  111. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    (Sigh)

  112. ” I’m struck by how much Rep. Omar, who is quite pretty for a member of Congress,”

    Jesus , Steve you need either you eyes or your head examined .

    On another topic : as I was picking my way through the soggy ground today avoiding other peoples muddy footsteps I got to thinking about Indian wilderness trails and how they are formed and how extensive a network they created . Were they just local game trails or was there an extensive network for trade and war , and how far could they travel on the trails . I assume they used waterways whenever they could but not always . I couldn’t find much online .

    • Replies: @Another Canadian
    @donut

    Donut, check out the Great Indian Warpath:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Indian_Warpath

    Replies: @donut

    , @Hereward
    @donut

    Search for "Great Indian Warpath."

    , @Lowe
    @donut

    I was counting the seconds before some faggot piped in with "no, she ain't pretty, neither!" Good job.

  113. Breitbart sez the Jewish Inquisition’s opinions of Omar be front page news:

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/02/13/local-jewish-leaders-staged-intervention-with-ilhan-omar-in-2018-very-troubled-by-the-answers-we-received/

    Breitbart promoting the collectivist concerns of White church leaders over a non-White’s anti-White racism when?

  114. @Anon
    The conservative Power Line blog authored by some Minnesota attorneys and a journalist/UC Berkeley academic has had dozens and dozens of posts criticizing Omar over the years, including the good possibility that she married a Somali in 2002, had three children, married her brother in 2009, and brought him to the U.S. They repeatedly said that the local paper refused to look into what would be bigamy plus immigration fraud. Here's one of their earliest posts on the subject:

    https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2016/08/ilhan-omar-her-back-pages.php

    Inputting "ilhan" in their site search box will bring up page after page of subsequent posts.

    It's such a weird accusation that, given that the local media is ignoring it, you're inclined to write it off as a nutty conspiracy theory. But the Power Line guys are a sober, respectable group of guys whose podcast I listen to, so ... I don't know what to think.

    Replies: @Kaganovitch, @AndrewR, @Mike1, @larry lurker

    Snopes has an article about Ilhan Omar’s brother… But it’s about whether he’s a terrorist who obtained 200 pounds of explosives with the intention of blowing up churches in Michigan. (Rating: False!)

    Was Ilhan Omar’s Brother Arrested with ‘200 Lbs. of Explosives’?

    They don’t bother addressing the far more widely circulated rumor that she married her brother.

  115. @Lot
    @Arclight

    "Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn’t really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back."

    He may start caring if Israel ever is seriously threatened.

    "But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment."

    Dem office holders are still solidly Israel. The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems. But on things like military aid, they vote something like 200-6 in favor of Israel in the House and 50-0 in the Senate.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @istevefan

    QFT.

  116. @istevefan
    @Lot

    I still don't get the fuss about BDS. From what I've heard BDS is a joke and has no material effect on Israel. In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @Hypnotoad666

    Every time that the Republicans manage to provoke some Democrat into saying something stupid, the Republicans gain votes from the mainstream. The right isn’t talking endlessly about Ilhan Omar’s Tweets because they think it will help the Dems with the average voter! just as the left didn’t endlessly mischaracterise Steve King’s comments because they thought it’d help the Republicans.

    The problem, in 2016, for the Dems was that they’d been getting high on their own supply; so when Trump said things that were actually pretty innocuous the Dems broadcast them all over the place in faux outrage and looked stupid. At least, to those who had other sources of information.

    Oh no, Trump made a kind-hearted joke about Jewish donors! Oh no, Trump said many chicks dig celebrity billionaires! Oh no, Trump said that Mexico has a crime problem but that there are obviously still good people. The biggest problem for Trump was when the alt right took the media’s characterisation semi-seriously and a handful of over-excited nitwits brandished swastika signs in Charlottesville.

    The game seems to be: brand your opponents as something obnoxious, wait for a handful of over-excited idiots on their side to embrace it and then broadcast it endlessly.

    • Replies: @Svigor
    @Tyrion 2

    Yeah, Trump's biggest problem is the alt-right. Not (((The Oligarchy))), (((Big Media))), the treacherous leftist judicial branch, the treacherous leftist state security apparatus, the Democrat party and their RINO allies, etc.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Tyrion 2

    Swastikas are so gay.

    Replies: @Lagertha

  117. In today’s race to be More Marginal Than Thou, Muslim Somalis tend not to be impressed by family stories of how great-grandfather had to found his own all-Jewish country club because he was blackballed by a WASP golf club.

    You don’t know the half of it, Steve.

    Some great-grandfathers arrived with just the clothes on their back and a tiny bundle of diamonds shoved up their tuchas.

    Others came with their families, enduring an arduous trip sitting in steerage ( ‘Listen, the price was right. What, I’m gonna pay second class for some treyf mystery stew at dinnertime? We’ll bring sandwiches already.’)

    Many of these people arrived with barely enough to buy a textiles factory and a very, very small apartment building in Flatbush.

    • LOL: Joseph Doaks
  118. @istevefan
    @Lot

    I still don't get the fuss about BDS. From what I've heard BDS is a joke and has no material effect on Israel. In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @Hypnotoad666

    Jews take a very nip-it-in-the-bud approach.* They figure, and perhaps rightly so, that if they take BDS seriously and try to stamp it out and fail, they may have a serious problem brewing.

    *Can also be seen as Jewish princess-and-the-pea syndrome; Jews have been getting their way forever, in everything, but one little thing out of place and they’re screaming bloody murder, because that’s just their personality profile (they’re gonna be kvetching about something, and circumstances don’t always provide something worth kvetching about).

  119. @Tyrion 2
    @istevefan

    Every time that the Republicans manage to provoke some Democrat into saying something stupid, the Republicans gain votes from the mainstream. The right isn't talking endlessly about Ilhan Omar's Tweets because they think it will help the Dems with the average voter! just as the left didn't endlessly mischaracterise Steve King's comments because they thought it'd help the Republicans.

    The problem, in 2016, for the Dems was that they'd been getting high on their own supply; so when Trump said things that were actually pretty innocuous the Dems broadcast them all over the place in faux outrage and looked stupid. At least, to those who had other sources of information.

    Oh no, Trump made a kind-hearted joke about Jewish donors! Oh no, Trump said many chicks dig celebrity billionaires! Oh no, Trump said that Mexico has a crime problem but that there are obviously still good people. The biggest problem for Trump was when the alt right took the media's characterisation semi-seriously and a handful of over-excited nitwits brandished swastika signs in Charlottesville.


    The game seems to be: brand your opponents as something obnoxious, wait for a handful of over-excited idiots on their side to embrace it and then broadcast it endlessly.

    Replies: @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar

    Yeah, Trump’s biggest problem is the alt-right. Not (((The Oligarchy))), (((Big Media))), the treacherous leftist judicial branch, the treacherous leftist state security apparatus, the Democrat party and their RINO allies, etc.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Svigor

    How can you not get that Democrats rub their hands with glee when a self-avowed Trump supporter brandishes a swastika?

  120. Anonymous [AKA "JustAnotherPosterWithNoName"] says:
    @Dieter Kief
    @Dave Pinsen

    Great picture, thanks! Heartwarming.


    "It's like you standing in the window / Of a house nobody lives in / And I'm sitting in the car /
    Across the way/ It's an early model Chevrolet..."

    Jackson Browne, Late for the Sky.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Dave Pinsen

    That’s “The Late Show” off the album Late for the Sky. Great song, great album.

  121. @Tyrion 2
    @res

    99% of modern politics seems to be stating that the people you don't like are cheating on civilised norms and that this justifies cheating back.

    This ties into Rene Girard's theories of mimesis and competition. He argued that societies went through these spirals and only settled after sacrificing a scapegoat. Dramatic historical examples of scapegoats include the Armenians (Ottomans), the successful farmers (USSR), the educated people (Khmer Rouge) etc.

    Basically, the competing groups of "cheaters" would find a sub-group to lay all of the blame on, and then punish them.

    The surviving members of the sacrificed scapegoats would, in the aftermath, be rendered holy and this would continue through the next cycle because their death would have brought social peace.

    Being a Catholic, he saw the Christian telling of the scapegoating of Jesus, the son of God, as a way to end this cycle as its ritualisation, through the drinking of the blood, Easter and so on, would satisfy this need instead. It built on and improved on the core function of the Abraham and Isaac story.

    Of course, for this to be true, it was also necessary for him to, not unreasonably, hold that ritualisation and even "play" could serve to satisfy the weird needs arising out of human social interaction.

    I found his explanations pretty convincing but please be aware that I read his stuff a while ago and I will not have been able to do it justice. Also, I suspect this is why the tweeter added Mr Yudkowsky in the reply.

    Replies: @res, @Thea, @Tex

    Thanks!

  122. @Hail
    @Dave Pinsen

    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.

    I understand the median White American living as of early 2019 was b.1974, and at some point in coming months it will roll over to the median White American being b.1975. Which is to say, most of us (the living) missed out on Peak USA. And yet still the warm glow of the peak lasted for many years to come. The glow for the first time looks distinctly dim, to many, partly chronicled at iSteve over the 2000s and 2010s.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.

    I am inclined to agree.

    Ironically, at the time, the national zeitgeist was supposedly one of disillusionment and malaise over Vietnam, Watergate, oil crisis, etc.

    But really, Detente and the end of the Vietnam War (for us, anyway) had taken a lot of the Cold War angst out of the culture. The country was very young demographically and the 60’s counterculture had mellowed and dissolved out to the masses as a sort of groovy have-fun ethos. A young blue-collar worker could still make enough money to rent a good apartment and buy a big, ugly Mustang.

    Definitely an underrated time period, especially compared to the obnoxiously over-hyped 1960’s.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Hypnotoad666

    I remember finding a copy of The NY Times from the early 1970s. It listed 1 BR apartments in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of Manhattan for about $150-200 month. These days that would be &2-4,000 for a 1 BR

    Replies: @Hail

  123. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Lot


    Iowa shifted to the GOP incredibly fast. It went from safe non-competitive Obama in 2012 to Safe Trump in 2016.
     
    Sure, and then in 2018 3/4 House seats went to the Dems and the Republican governor only narrowly won.

    Never underestimate the stupidity of the average white voter.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    I don’t know much about Iowa, but the recent resurgence of the Democratic Party next door in Wisconsin can be blamed squarely on the Republicans.

    Only extreme Gerrymandering allowed the Republicans to keep the state legislature. Democrats got 54% of the vote for 36% of the seats.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats won EVERY statewide office, and easily won a US Senate seat.

    The biggest vote getter for Republicans is the stupidity of the Democratic Party. The biggest vote getter for Democrats is the cupidity of the Republican Party. When the Republicans control everything, and blow it, voters will naturally turn to Democrats.

    Why did I vote for Democrats? Aside from being left of center, the GOP put up no candidates worth voting for. None. Congressman Pocan ran unopposed. Zero Republicans on the ballot for any local races. The statewide races were the worst group of Republicans on the ballot in my lifetime. Scott Walker was bad enough to turn my Republican wife solidly blue.

    • Replies: @Marty
    @Paleo Liberal

    Is your wife a teacher?

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  124. @Paleo Liberal
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian

    I don’t know much about Iowa, but the recent resurgence of the Democratic Party next door in Wisconsin can be blamed squarely on the Republicans.

    Only extreme Gerrymandering allowed the Republicans to keep the state legislature. Democrats got 54% of the vote for 36% of the seats.

    Meanwhile, the Democrats won EVERY statewide office, and easily won a US Senate seat.

    The biggest vote getter for Republicans is the stupidity of the Democratic Party. The biggest vote getter for Democrats is the cupidity of the Republican Party. When the Republicans control everything, and blow it, voters will naturally turn to Democrats.

    Why did I vote for Democrats? Aside from being left of center, the GOP put up no candidates worth voting for. None. Congressman Pocan ran unopposed. Zero Republicans on the ballot for any local races. The statewide races were the worst group of Republicans on the ballot in my lifetime. Scott Walker was bad enough to turn my Republican wife solidly blue.

    Replies: @Marty

    Is your wife a teacher?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Marty

    No, but she is a state employee. I won’t mention her job, but where she works actually turns a profit and makes money for the state.

    Walker took away any union protection she had from an abusive boss, and we took a hit with her salary and benefits.

    The turnover rate is bad, and many good workers left. Her workplace is rather crucial. What they do has a large effect on the health and safety of the people of Wisconsin.

    Replies: @Ibound1

  125. @Hail
    @Anonymous

    Just who is Michael Tracey, anyway?

    He is good, but also one of those whose Twitter-cart is way before his IRL-horse. Very little info on him online. He simply tags himself "roving journalist."


    Michael Tracey [Verified account] @mtracey
    6 minutes ago

    There's something so condescending and arrogant in the assumption that a Somali-American refugee has to understand the convoluted "tropes" that offend these successful, mainstream, influential people, but they have no obligation to "understand" her perfectly valid viewpoint
     

    Replies: @Lot, @Charles Pewitt

    Michael Tracey is a damn puppy dog dope who overthinks everything.

    This Michael Tracey guy was concerned about the proper time to allow after George HW Bush croaked to give an honest and true depiction of what shady things Bushy #1 did and was involved in.

    My thought was to start pounding on that globalizer bastard George HW Bush as soon as I heard or saw that he had kicked the bucket.

    George HW Bush would have probably thought it was funny for somebody to eschew the formalities about attacking the departed so soon after they expired. John McCain would have laughed too. I hated both George HW Bush and McCain, but they had a sense of humour — a crappy one, but they had it.

  126. istevefan says:
    @Lot
    @Arclight

    "Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn’t really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back."

    He may start caring if Israel ever is seriously threatened.

    "But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment."

    Dem office holders are still solidly Israel. The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems. But on things like military aid, they vote something like 200-6 in favor of Israel in the House and 50-0 in the Senate.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @istevefan

    The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems.

    It was not engineered to split the Dems. It was about delivering to their supporters. And they came through like they always do. If only the GOP base could get the same devotion.

    PS. If you want to harm the democrats you need to split off from them the people most likely to support our positions. Namely, there is around 44 percent of the White vote that still votes for the openly anti-White party. I’d say at least a third to a half of them could probably agree with our positions,but don’t because they are either not informed due to MSM programming, or they are virtual signaling for social gain.

    If you split off the Jewish vote from the democrats you will obviously hurt their fundraising. However, the last time we took into the party a bunch of renegade left-wing Jews it did not work out well. We got invade-the-world-invite-the-world on steroids. I am concerned that if the democrat Jewish vote up and left for the GOP, they would not suddenly become immigration restrictionists like us. But rather they would push the GOP to support looser immigration even more than the Chamber of Commerce has.

    Since I don’t see the majority of Jews ever abandoning politics and just staying on the sideline, I don’t see how to split them from the democrats without it backfiring on us. Either they stay with the democrats and keep the status quo, or they join the GOP and totally transform that party to suit their views.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @istevefan

    It isn't the Jewish vote they are courting. They are trying to provoke examples of anti-Semitism; something 98% of people don't like. It has played out exactly this way in the UK, to hilarious effect.

    Watching a black Labour MP accuse the Labour party of institutional racism anti-Semitism has been cathartic. It'd be better if they were correctly identified as anti-native, but Jews always seem to be the Canary in the coalmine so hopefully it is a sign of greater things to come.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Thea

    , @Lot
    @istevefan

    "if the democrat Jewish vote up and left for the GOP, they would not suddenly become immigration restrictionists like us"

    Valid concern. However, the share of the white vote the GOP needs to win elections just keeps going up. It was I think 63% in 2016, will be higher in 2020. There isn't any obvious way of doing this without moving left somewhere. We can't rely on Dems always nominating Hillary quality candidates.

    My preferred left movements are on tariffs and taxing the rich. The GOPe wants to go left on culture, social and identity issues.

    The GOP is already doing everything it reasonablly can to attract Jewish voters. A big wave of Jewish voters moving to the GOP is unlikely. Instead it will be a slow movement of an additional percentage or two a cycle.

    , @Lot
    @istevefan

    " If only the GOP base could get the same devotion."

    The GOP base loves Israel. Part of the reason is that it obviously upsets and divides the left.

    This is an unfortunate aspect of modern US politics, where both sides view trolling the other side as important. Trump keeps owning the libz on twitter and pleasing the base without delivering on policy.

    The left does the same. 16 years of Obama and Clinton saw unions decline and inequality increase. Upper class blacks got appointed to corporate boards and government, 98% of blacks fell behind.

    , @Whiskey
    @istevefan

    No voting our way out of this. Demographics alone of those already here insure this.

    Cutting the money and organizing energy out of them leaves Kamala Harris and Ocasio Cortez as the leaders without money or a smart cadre.

    Those White voters will always be anti White. Think of the as Brie Larson types or Soros among Jews.

    No hates or funds anti Usrael stuff more than Soros. He wants Israel destroyed so he pick up the offshore gas fields cheap.

  127. @donut
    " I’m struck by how much Rep. Omar, who is quite pretty for a member of Congress,"

    Jesus , Steve you need either you eyes or your head examined .

    On another topic : as I was picking my way through the soggy ground today avoiding other peoples muddy footsteps I got to thinking about Indian wilderness trails and how they are formed and how extensive a network they created . Were they just local game trails or was there an extensive network for trade and war , and how far could they travel on the trails . I assume they used waterways whenever they could but not always . I couldn't find much online .

    Replies: @Another Canadian, @Hereward, @Lowe

    Donut, check out the Great Indian Warpath:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Indian_Warpath

    • Replies: @donut
    @Another Canadian

    Thanks that was facinating , thanks to @Hereward too . So from scanning the entry I get the impression that one could go from Alabama or Florida to the NE US . I wonder if anyone has analyzed the extent of the trade , like they did in the old world . Any way thanks .

    Replies: @donut, @Another Canadian

  128. @istevefan
    @Lot

    I still don't get the fuss about BDS. From what I've heard BDS is a joke and has no material effect on Israel. In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2, @Svigor, @Hypnotoad666

    In fact most people would never even had heard of BDS if it were not for all the effort to try to ban BDS.

    If people want to have a dominatrix tie them up and force them to denounce Israel that’s their business . . . . Or maybe I’m thinking of a different BDS movement. https://www.gq.com/story/bdsm-a-to-z

  129. @donut
    " I’m struck by how much Rep. Omar, who is quite pretty for a member of Congress,"

    Jesus , Steve you need either you eyes or your head examined .

    On another topic : as I was picking my way through the soggy ground today avoiding other peoples muddy footsteps I got to thinking about Indian wilderness trails and how they are formed and how extensive a network they created . Were they just local game trails or was there an extensive network for trade and war , and how far could they travel on the trails . I assume they used waterways whenever they could but not always . I couldn't find much online .

    Replies: @Another Canadian, @Hereward, @Lowe

    Search for “Great Indian Warpath.”

  130. @Hypnotoad666
    @Hail


    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.
     
    I am inclined to agree.

    Ironically, at the time, the national zeitgeist was supposedly one of disillusionment and malaise over Vietnam, Watergate, oil crisis, etc.

    But really, Detente and the end of the Vietnam War (for us, anyway) had taken a lot of the Cold War angst out of the culture. The country was very young demographically and the 60's counterculture had mellowed and dissolved out to the masses as a sort of groovy have-fun ethos. A young blue-collar worker could still make enough money to rent a good apartment and buy a big, ugly Mustang.

    Definitely an underrated time period, especially compared to the obnoxiously over-hyped 1960's.

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    I remember finding a copy of The NY Times from the early 1970s. It listed 1 BR apartments in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of Manhattan for about $150-200 month. These days that would be &2-4,000 for a 1 BR

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Paleo Liberal


    1 BR apartments in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of Manhattan for about $150-200 month
     
    Inflation adjusted:

    $150 in 1970 = $973 in 2019
    $200 in 1970 = $1,297 in 2019

    $150 in 1973 = $850 in 2019
    $200 in 1973 = $1,134 in 2019

    Smoothing out those numbers, the price you saw likely implies a one-bedroom apartment there today for between $900 to $1,250/month, inflatiton adjusted.

    If your impression of $2,000 to $4,000 for an equal unit on the market today is accurate, it's most likely 2.5x to 3x more expensive (inflation adjusted), possibly even up to 4x. So it goes!

  131. @Lot
    @Tyrion 2

    It is mostly symbolic and supportive of local laws.

    Between watering it down to get passed and the First Amendment, it is the strongest we cam expect. And Pelosi isn't going to let it come up for a vote in the House.

    The GOP is united behind Israel. Dems are now about 55/45 split in favor. They saw what happened to Corbyn and Labour and want no part of it. Though of course it is inevitable.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    They saw what happened to Corbyn and Labour and want no part of it.

    What happened to Corbyn and Labour?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Anonymous

    He caused Labour to lose most Jewish support, a lot of Jew-friendly elite support, and in general become divided and look bad.

    The UK has a lot of leftists, but only had Tory/New Labour governments the past 40 years.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @ATBOTL

  132. Forget it, Tracey. It’s Swamp City DC.

  133. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Being born in 1951, the early seventies were very horny times for young men. The short shorts were great, but the miniskirts were even better. Girls were not yet all tatted up. But, I liked to go back even further in my reading, when I actually read novels. For me, nothing more captured the post-WWII haunting beauty of America than Jack Kerouac’s “On the Road.” There was freedom then. The early ’70s, the period of my military service, were still ruined by the senseless tragedy of Vietnam.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @follyofwar

    The early seventies were born in 1951?

    , @Dave Pinsen
    @follyofwar

    I had a copy of On The Road with a cover photo of a 20-something girl wearing my grandmother's hairdo. I guess it wasn't a grandma 'do in the '50s.

  134. On topic: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/democrats-have-abandoned-israel-jews-should-abandon-democratic-party

    Sooner or later a group with trans-women and feminists, Muslims and Jews, Muslims and gays, Muslims and feminists, blacks and immigrants, Indians and Pakistanis, is going to fall apart. It’s fun to watch, although depressing to think about too deeply.

  135. @Buzz Mohawk
    Thank you, Steve, for noticing, and for writing about what you notice. Thank you in particular for mentioning the anti-First Amendment bill that the Senate has just passed on behalf of its Jewish handlers.

    The Emperor wears no clothes, and his circumcision is showing.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @follyofwar, @Hypnotoad666

    Indeed, I can think of nothing that more demonstrates Jewish control of the culture than the fact that most of us American gentiles have been circumcised.

    • Replies: @Mr. XYZ
    @follyofwar

    By that logic, though, are Jews also in control of the Muslim world?

    Replies: @follyofwar

    , @Anonymous
    @follyofwar

    Christian anti-masturbation obsessiveness was behind that.

  136. @istevefan
    @Lot


    The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems.
     
    It was not engineered to split the Dems. It was about delivering to their supporters. And they came through like they always do. If only the GOP base could get the same devotion.

    PS. If you want to harm the democrats you need to split off from them the people most likely to support our positions. Namely, there is around 44 percent of the White vote that still votes for the openly anti-White party. I'd say at least a third to a half of them could probably agree with our positions,but don't because they are either not informed due to MSM programming, or they are virtual signaling for social gain.

    If you split off the Jewish vote from the democrats you will obviously hurt their fundraising. However, the last time we took into the party a bunch of renegade left-wing Jews it did not work out well. We got invade-the-world-invite-the-world on steroids. I am concerned that if the democrat Jewish vote up and left for the GOP, they would not suddenly become immigration restrictionists like us. But rather they would push the GOP to support looser immigration even more than the Chamber of Commerce has.

    Since I don't see the majority of Jews ever abandoning politics and just staying on the sideline, I don't see how to split them from the democrats without it backfiring on us. Either they stay with the democrats and keep the status quo, or they join the GOP and totally transform that party to suit their views.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Lot, @Lot, @Whiskey

    It isn’t the Jewish vote they are courting. They are trying to provoke examples of anti-Semitism; something 98% of people don’t like. It has played out exactly this way in the UK, to hilarious effect.

    Watching a black Labour MP accuse the Labour party of institutional racism anti-Semitism has been cathartic. It’d be better if they were correctly identified as anti-native, but Jews always seem to be the Canary in the coalmine so hopefully it is a sign of greater things to come.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2


    They are trying to provoke examples of anti-Semitism; something 98% of people don’t like.
     
    Anti-Semitism isn’t popular, but counter-Semitism is on the rise again. 88% of people are at least subconsciously counter-Semitic.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    , @Thea
    @Tyrion 2

    It is an appeal to the desire to be a hero or savior in gebtiles, a common human desire. In the same way Schindler ‘s list portrayed the title character ( despite historical realities) as a brave noble man that ordinary people could emulate. Stirring up ideas about riding anti-semitransparent is meant to appeal to them.

    One could see SJWs as arm chair schindlers bravely using twitter to fight the bad guys.

  137. The straw that broke the camel’s back was that in reply to Greg Greenwald saying on Twitter:

    Come on Steve. That’s Glenn Greenwald. Like you, he’s almost famous.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @SND

    Hey, Simon Sandalman got the first letters right.

  138. … the way South Carolina used-car-lot owners support Clemson.

    Whoa! You mean the way Upstate used car-lot-owners support Clemson … and they’re PRE-OWNED now, not USED. You really need an editor.

    It’s not “still allowed”, Steve, not in the current year season!

  139. Can we just build a right wing movement which changes one word of Corbyn’s tweet? “Let’s build a movement across borders to take on the billionaires, polluters and migrant pushers, and support a happier, freer and cleaner planet”

    I think it would win….

  140. Why, I wonder, do ultra wealthy Jews donate billions to influence American elections when they could give the same amount of money directly to Israel? If they did, there would be no reason to force hard pressed taxpayers, at the point of a gun, to give billions to the already rich Jewish state each year, would there? And perhaps our growing resentment would not be so high.

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
  141. I thought you were going to elaborate some more on your 2nd example, that of the gay NY city councilman/mayor-wannabe. Anyway, great article – you’ve got so many themes that you can always put a few of them in there that describe exactly what’s going on, with humor.

  142. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    That White Mustang Girls photo is from>>>>>and more photos like it>>>>> http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/photography/cruising-van-nuys-boulevard-los-angeles-1972/

    Cruising Van Nuys Boulevard, Los Angeles, 1972
    BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER – JANUARY 28, 2017
    CC reader Michael M. sent me a link to a gallery of photos shot on Van Nuys Blvd. in 1972, by photographer Rick McCloskey, and part of his book, Los Angeles in the 1970s. It’s a nice slice of youth and automotive culture of the times.

    • Replies: @MarkinLA
    @Clyde

    I can't believe all the lowriders in those pictures. Whittier Blvd in East Los Angeles was where all the Mexicans cruised. The Mexicans loved the lowriders. The white guys preferred to jack up their rides, hot rod style with the lifted rear end the and the bigger tires.

  143. @Svigor
    @Tyrion 2

    Yeah, Trump's biggest problem is the alt-right. Not (((The Oligarchy))), (((Big Media))), the treacherous leftist judicial branch, the treacherous leftist state security apparatus, the Democrat party and their RINO allies, etc.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    How can you not get that Democrats rub their hands with glee when a self-avowed Trump supporter brandishes a swastika?

  144. @Arclight
    I've been wondering about this for awhile - Democrats (as pointed out, with a major financial assist from Jewish donors) have been electing more and more people who don't actually like Jews, and certainly are not as enamored with Israel as the typical GOPer. At what point will we see a meaningful impact on donations?

    A friend of mine is a huge Israel booster and a pretty committed Democrat. But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment. Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn't really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back.

    Replies: @Lot, @Flip, @Anonymous

    Isn’t this what has happened in the UK with Jews supporting the Conservative Party?

  145. @Achmed E. Newman

    I think American women are starting to get into the idea that when the Muslims take over, they can throw their yoga pants away.
     
    It's mostly in the delivery, but this is one of your funniest lines ever, to me! Yeah, only 5% of women who wear yoga pants SHOULD be wearing them. I wonder what those hot ones will have to say about the changes - tighter burkas?

    They won’t have to diet or workout or worry about their hair anymore. They’ll just wear hijabs and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.
     
    Or they can have just slits and simply worry about what shade contacts to wear. If nothing else good comes out of this, women will FINALLY be on time to appointments ... I mean, depending on the trains and buses ... cause, you know, ... no driving and all that. It'll be a more punctual, traffic-friendly country. I for one, welcome our Somalian overlords.

    (I look forward to reading the Takimag article, Steve - gotta go for now.)

    Replies: @Flip

    And not being able to divorce their husbands so easily while being subjected to potentially easy divorce by their husbands will tend to keep them in line. Adding up to another three wives would as well.

  146. @George
    @Hail

    It is noteworthy that the district which Omar became a state representative was represented by the same Jewish lady for 44 years. Omar got amazingly lucky when Ellison fell victim to some sort of morales challenge. This is similar to Ocasio Cortez winning a surprise primary election victory against some Irishish guy that was also in office for too long. Both Omar and Ocasio Cortez seem at least to be smart and well organized.

    Replies: @Chris Renner, @J.Ross

    Omar got amazingly lucky when Ellison fell victim to some sort of morales challenge.

    That’s not correct; the seat was open because Ellison decided to run for Minnesota Attorney General instead. And unfortunately, the voters didn’t care that he beat up his girlfriend – he still won.

  147. @Marty
    @Paleo Liberal

    Is your wife a teacher?

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    No, but she is a state employee. I won’t mention her job, but where she works actually turns a profit and makes money for the state.

    Walker took away any union protection she had from an abusive boss, and we took a hit with her salary and benefits.

    The turnover rate is bad, and many good workers left. Her workplace is rather crucial. What they do has a large effect on the health and safety of the people of Wisconsin.

    • Replies: @Ibound1
    @Paleo Liberal

    In the private sector you don't get to vote you boss out of his job if he takes some of your wages away.

  148. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Tyrion 2

    Sorry, I don't play hasbara pong.

    https://i.skyrock.net/8508/30608508/pics/1952572067_1.gif

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @J.Ross, @tyrone

    But Buzz, if you don’t take the bait, how will anybody ever have any idea what is in a published piece of legislation that has been widely discussed?

  149. @Jimi
    I don't like the social expectation that a women heading into her late 30s and has a couple of kids needs to look "hot."

    Everyone should strive to not be fat but I don't think married women or men need should be expected to be toned with firm butts.

    Once you have kids entering puberty its time to let vanity go, lose the yoga pants and wear stylish clothes that hide your flaws.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Women should age gracefully, but men should look like they’re ready to fight a battle at any time. Getting older is no excuse.

  150. “Muslim Somalis tend not to be impressed by family stories of how great-grandfather had to found his own all-Jewish country club…”

    It’s the same raw, dirt-road smartness that made Farah Aidid and other Mogadishu’s brightest to pad each other on the back while celebrating Black Hawk Downing.

    Omar’s meteoritic rise happened only after she and her tribal acolytes finished chewing on 44 years old bones of Phyllis Lorberblatt Kahn’s political career.

    “No respect”, as Percival Sweetwater would whine.

    Cannibalizing kosher-friendly political mentors and enablers from the different tribe -once they suited the purpose of your tribe – seemed as an acceptable, globaly halal-certified strategy for any future endeavours.

    However, as being low-on-information, but quite high on a clanberry juice, Omar learned the hard way that shouting AIPAC in a crowded tweeter is not covered by the First, nor the Zeroth Amendment.

    Eventually, she will pull Full Aidid.

  151. @George
    @Hail

    It is noteworthy that the district which Omar became a state representative was represented by the same Jewish lady for 44 years. Omar got amazingly lucky when Ellison fell victim to some sort of morales challenge. This is similar to Ocasio Cortez winning a surprise primary election victory against some Irishish guy that was also in office for too long. Both Omar and Ocasio Cortez seem at least to be smart and well organized.

    Replies: @Chris Renner, @J.Ross

    These remarkably lucky surprises are the foreign tide rising and they will only get more frequent.

  152. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    Anti-Israel fashion, Liberal Edition™ is not something that bubbled up from the Dem base– theres been a sea change with the elite, formerly more Clintonian & money-grubbing and continually refighting the battles of the 70s and 80s and therefore in competition with the military-boosting GOP to be seen as hawks, not acid-dropping hippies. Since Iraq II the party brass is drifting more toward New Left attitudes and academia shibboleths. Alhough they’re way behind the pace in respect to Corbynites (on BDS along with other things).

    There is an old and reliable anti-Israel intellectual leftist strain which is for several reasons larger than the post-Nixon right-wing equivalent, in no small part because the MSM-ethnic lobby complex aggressively polices the latter yet doesn’t have the heart to stalk/terrorize lefty foes of Zionism — again, because these troublemakers were havinf no discernable effect on base or on elite, till recently

  153. I think American women are starting to get into the idea that when the Muslims take over, they can throw their yoga pants away.

    They won’t have to diet or workout or worry about their hair anymore.

    That wasn’t how Houellebecq saw it in Submission.

    • Replies: @tyrone
    @Dave Pinsen

    no yoga pants ,no clitoris………..yippee!

  154. Technically off-topic but not really, Coalition of the Fringes Watch, or, it’s Sailer’s world and we only live in it:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/13/us/politics/virginia-governor-scandal-democratic-women.html

    White women like Ms. Cordovilla tend to unhesitatingly line up with the accusers while African-Americans like Ms. Vasser want to hear a fuller airing of the charges against Mr. Fairfax, who is black, before choosing sides…

    Chelsea Higgs Wise, a social justice activist who is black, said that she had campaigned for both Mr. Northam and Mr. Fairfax and that this was tearing her apart.

    “It’s causing a lot of tears,” she said….“It really is a terrible position to be in,” said Ms. Wise, 34, “to believe women, but to also uphold blackness as a priority.”

    It is an even more awkward matter for black female legislators, for reasons that are both political and deeply personal. Many of them represent districts that are heavily African-American and in which the most dependable Democratic voters are women. And these lawmakers are deeply conscious of the history of black men in America being wrongfully accused of sexual misconduct….

    The only good outcome to what has been a humiliating and painful episode for Virginia Democrats, say many party officials, would be the election or elevation of more women, particularly minorities.

  155. @Anonymous
    @Lot


    They saw what happened to Corbyn and Labour and want no part of it.
     
    What happened to Corbyn and Labour?

    Replies: @Lot

    He caused Labour to lose most Jewish support, a lot of Jew-friendly elite support, and in general become divided and look bad.

    The UK has a lot of leftists, but only had Tory/New Labour governments the past 40 years.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Lot

    Corbyn caused such division that he won every leadership challenge and looks to not be going anywhere any time soon.

    Replies: @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @Reg Cæsar

    , @ATBOTL
    @Lot

    Totally false. Labour has had a resurgence under Corbyn. They increased their vote in the last election, against all predictions by the establishment media and are poised for a possible victory in the next election. Corbyn's standing up to the Jewish lobby is tremendously popular.

    Lot and Tyrion2 are dishonest neocons who are here to pervert the discourse. They are like less buffoonish versions Whiskey(aka The Long Winded Neocon, as I dubbed him when he posted anonymously).

    Fundamentally, they are here to do hasbara for Jews and Israel. They are part of a larger reorientation of the neocon movement to target the alt-right for subversion now that boomer style cuckservatives are being eclipsed by the dissident right. They will feign sympathy for our goals at times to accomplish this.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  156. @SND

    The straw that broke the camel’s back was that in reply to Greg Greenwald saying on Twitter:
     
    Come on Steve. That's Glenn Greenwald. Like you, he's almost famous.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Hey, Simon Sandalman got the first letters right.

  157. @Paleo Liberal
    @Marty

    No, but she is a state employee. I won’t mention her job, but where she works actually turns a profit and makes money for the state.

    Walker took away any union protection she had from an abusive boss, and we took a hit with her salary and benefits.

    The turnover rate is bad, and many good workers left. Her workplace is rather crucial. What they do has a large effect on the health and safety of the people of Wisconsin.

    Replies: @Ibound1

    In the private sector you don’t get to vote you boss out of his job if he takes some of your wages away.

  158. Anonymous[175] • Disclaimer says:
    @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Tyrion 2

    Hell is Somalia?

    Nice and simple. Somalians are a hopelessly retarded people. While I may be somewhat racist, I can think of decent people from every race.... except somalians.

    Every single somalian is stupid, slow, thuggish, and generally dead weight on humanity that should be quarantined and left to starve in their native shithole. I can't speak lowly enough about them.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Sorry, but you’ve got that wrong.

    Somalis are anything *but* retarded.

    They are the absolute masters of gaming whitey’s immigration and welfare systems. Think about it, if ‘smarts’ actually matter for anything in life, surely, parasitism – getting some other dumb bastard to do all the work for you – is the way to go. After all, the world belongs to the bacteria – who will be here when Sapiens are long gone – and not to us.

    The real retards are The Economist whipped western political class who framed these sub-nematode brained immigration laws. And perhaps the white voters who keep voting the retards in.

  159. @Sowhat
    @Tyrion 2

    oops. I hit the wrong button. I meant to agree with Buzz Mohowk. darn!

    Replies: @Hail

    Little known Unz Review comment-system fact:

    You can change your ‘Agree/Disagree/LOL/Troll’ by waiting till your allotment refreshes and clicking another. So an ‘Agree’ can be replaced by a ‘Disagree,’ a ‘LOL’ or a ‘Troll.’

    (Once you make one endorsement [as Ron Unz calls these buttons] of a comment, though, you cannot totally withdraw it, only change it. I have tested this by turning a ‘Disagree’ to a ‘Troll’ and back to a ‘Disagree.’)

    • Troll: Lot, Hail
    • Replies: @Lot
    @Hail

    Sorry couldn't resist.

    http://thinkingmeme.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Best-20-cat-memes19.jpg

    Replies: @Hail

  160. @Anon7
    They’ll just wear hijabs and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.

    Unfortunately, that strategy doesn’t always work as well as Fairey might have you believe.

    No, not always. However. There’s a Muslim woman who works at my local big box electronics store who wears an oversized deep black hijab and very dramatic makeup. The overall impression is kind of hot Empress Palpatine cosplay.

    Replies: @Bill B.

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Bill B.

    A born-taqiyya artist questioning someone else's veracity.

    You just can't make this shit up.

    Also love the Elmer Fudd accent on top of the broken English grammar.

    , @George
    @Bill B.

    There was a time when white Christian males asked the tough questions.

    Elliott Abrams: A Human Rights Horror Show in Three Acts
    https://original.antiwar.com/brett_wilkins/2019/02/01/elliott-abrams-a-human-rights-horror-show-in-three-acts/

    , @donut
    @Bill B.

    The c**cksucker gave us MS13 , what are we going to get from Venezuela ? A quarter of a million "refugees" . I'll bet that Jew never expected to squirm before Congress .

    , @Anon7
    @Bill B.

    I don’t think Omar looks hot, and neither does this woman at the store. She constantly looks around to see which men are paying attention to her.

    The hijab, which is intended to force some degree of modesty on women, is now paradoxically a way for them to draw more attention to themselves. I ate at a middle eastern restaurant a couple of years ago, and was served by an obviously blonde American woman wearing a scarf head covering. It’s possible that the owner asked her to wear it because of his customers, but she obviously was expecting to be noticed and complimented.

    The nature of women never really changes.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Federalist
    @Bill B.

    She's about as hot as Elliott Abrams.

    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Bill B.

    "Minnesota Nice"

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Clyde
    @Bill B.

    Elliot Abrams should have said, "Very cute. Now when exactly did you get off the banana boat?"

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Corn
    @Bill B.

    Dumb broad. She can’t even get his name right and she falters looking for words bit you can tell by the look on her face she thinks is dazzling the hearing.

  161. @istevefan
    @Lot


    The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems.
     
    It was not engineered to split the Dems. It was about delivering to their supporters. And they came through like they always do. If only the GOP base could get the same devotion.

    PS. If you want to harm the democrats you need to split off from them the people most likely to support our positions. Namely, there is around 44 percent of the White vote that still votes for the openly anti-White party. I'd say at least a third to a half of them could probably agree with our positions,but don't because they are either not informed due to MSM programming, or they are virtual signaling for social gain.

    If you split off the Jewish vote from the democrats you will obviously hurt their fundraising. However, the last time we took into the party a bunch of renegade left-wing Jews it did not work out well. We got invade-the-world-invite-the-world on steroids. I am concerned that if the democrat Jewish vote up and left for the GOP, they would not suddenly become immigration restrictionists like us. But rather they would push the GOP to support looser immigration even more than the Chamber of Commerce has.

    Since I don't see the majority of Jews ever abandoning politics and just staying on the sideline, I don't see how to split them from the democrats without it backfiring on us. Either they stay with the democrats and keep the status quo, or they join the GOP and totally transform that party to suit their views.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Lot, @Lot, @Whiskey

    “if the democrat Jewish vote up and left for the GOP, they would not suddenly become immigration restrictionists like us”

    Valid concern. However, the share of the white vote the GOP needs to win elections just keeps going up. It was I think 63% in 2016, will be higher in 2020. There isn’t any obvious way of doing this without moving left somewhere. We can’t rely on Dems always nominating Hillary quality candidates.

    My preferred left movements are on tariffs and taxing the rich. The GOPe wants to go left on culture, social and identity issues.

    The GOP is already doing everything it reasonablly can to attract Jewish voters. A big wave of Jewish voters moving to the GOP is unlikely. Instead it will be a slow movement of an additional percentage or two a cycle.

  162. “While our society’s growing hate hysteria against straight white men may seem a bit demented, it is actually a logical requirement of the fundamental strategy of the Democratic Party: to mobilize a Coalition of the Margins comprising identity groups—such as blacks, transgenders, Muslims, and Jews—who don’t have much to unite them other than their resentment of old-fashioned Americans.”

    The reality is that this “hate hysteria against straight white men” is the agenda of a subset of people called the radical left, with another subset of people, the Alt Right, reacting as if liberals and the normies in general play a perpetual, integral role. It is other than surprising that the Alt Right, with their propagandist race realism, demographic suicide, and patriarchy, seek to virtue signal white normies to death for their alleged lack of wokeness. And, if we truly keep it real, “old-fashioned Americans” in the truest sense of the word refers to Anglo-Saxons, and to the Irish and Germans and Dutch to a lesser extent, but assuredly NOT to Southern and Eastern Europeans.

    Just another day in the world of NOTICING your confirmation bias, Mr. Sailer.

  163. @Lot
    @Anonymous

    He caused Labour to lose most Jewish support, a lot of Jew-friendly elite support, and in general become divided and look bad.

    The UK has a lot of leftists, but only had Tory/New Labour governments the past 40 years.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @ATBOTL

    Corbyn caused such division that he won every leadership challenge and looks to not be going anywhere any time soon.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @J.Ross

    He won because Labour changed its rules without thinking it through. Used to be you had to volunteer X hours a year to the party and show up at meetings to vote. They changed it to just having to pay £6.

    It would be like a vote of registered Dems electing AOC speaker when 80% of actual congressmen oppose her.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Tyrion 2
    @J.Ross

    He'll never win an election outside of his tiny clique of Labour members. He's like the Head of a Student Union. Only the nutters vote and they're all insane.

    He was boosted in the last general election but a broken government and him receiving the entire protest vote. He should have romped home. Instead, he lost worse than Labour in 2010 under absolute failure Gordon Brown. This is sad.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross


    Corbyn caused such division that he won every leadership challenge and looks to not be going anywhere any time soon.
     
    I wish some prominent lefty in this country-- or shrewd righty-- would ape his proposal for separate bus and train cars for women.

    Where are the feminists? Come on, Mexico City has had them for years!

    Replies: @J.Ross

  164. @istevefan
    @Lot


    The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems.
     
    It was not engineered to split the Dems. It was about delivering to their supporters. And they came through like they always do. If only the GOP base could get the same devotion.

    PS. If you want to harm the democrats you need to split off from them the people most likely to support our positions. Namely, there is around 44 percent of the White vote that still votes for the openly anti-White party. I'd say at least a third to a half of them could probably agree with our positions,but don't because they are either not informed due to MSM programming, or they are virtual signaling for social gain.

    If you split off the Jewish vote from the democrats you will obviously hurt their fundraising. However, the last time we took into the party a bunch of renegade left-wing Jews it did not work out well. We got invade-the-world-invite-the-world on steroids. I am concerned that if the democrat Jewish vote up and left for the GOP, they would not suddenly become immigration restrictionists like us. But rather they would push the GOP to support looser immigration even more than the Chamber of Commerce has.

    Since I don't see the majority of Jews ever abandoning politics and just staying on the sideline, I don't see how to split them from the democrats without it backfiring on us. Either they stay with the democrats and keep the status quo, or they join the GOP and totally transform that party to suit their views.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Lot, @Lot, @Whiskey

    ” If only the GOP base could get the same devotion.”

    The GOP base loves Israel. Part of the reason is that it obviously upsets and divides the left.

    This is an unfortunate aspect of modern US politics, where both sides view trolling the other side as important. Trump keeps owning the libz on twitter and pleasing the base without delivering on policy.

    The left does the same. 16 years of Obama and Clinton saw unions decline and inequality increase. Upper class blacks got appointed to corporate boards and government, 98% of blacks fell behind.

  165. THE FRAYING OF THE FRINGES

  166. Blacks care more about Big Wallet than Smollett.

    https://twitter.com/rooshv/status/1095743735189520384

  167. @Hail
    @Sowhat

    Little known Unz Review comment-system fact:

    You can change your 'Agree/Disagree/LOL/Troll' by waiting till your allotment refreshes and clicking another. So an 'Agree' can be replaced by a 'Disagree,' a 'LOL' or a 'Troll.'

    (Once you make one endorsement [as Ron Unz calls these buttons] of a comment, though, you cannot totally withdraw it, only change it. I have tested this by turning a 'Disagree' to a 'Troll' and back to a 'Disagree.')

    Replies: @Lot

    Sorry couldn’t resist.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Lot

    Little Known Unz Review Commenting Fact 2:

    You can endorse your own comments.

    (I have seen the commenter atlantis_dweller do this; he sometimes LOLs his own comments.)

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

  168. Jack Hanson says:

    You guys waiting for the Dems to fall apart due to the circular firing squad better not hold your breath. How many years of “Gotcha!” style journalism have we engaged in, exposing the schizophrenia left, and what good has it done?

    The Boomer Question might be more important than the Jewish Question, which is a damned important one.

  169. OFF TOPIC

    Michael Tracey is all bent out of shape about Neo-Conservative dirtbag Elliot Abrams bending the American Empire around the Boland Amendment.

    If the American Empire doesn’t do it, some other empire will. — Theme song of the JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire.

    We might as well profit off some of this crap we’re pulling overseas for the JEW/WASP ruling class rats running the American Empire. — some CIA guy in a movie.

  170. It took me a long time to think about the two meanings of clout: rag and influence.

  171. @Tiny Duck
    1. Interesting how the only people who don't have a problem with white male supremacy are white males. that tells you something right there

    2. Ms. Omar is a victim of white male supremacy. If she hadn't been soaked in the acidic hate soup of American racist culture she would not have misspoken

    3. white males are dangerous https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2019/02/13/Ex-boyfriend-arrested-in-connection-to-Valerie-Reyess-death/1651550046809/ Is it any wonder that women do not want to date them

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    Funny Tiny. The killer was an illegal alien from Venezuela. He must be white if he is the perp, right?

    https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2019/02/12/report-illegal-immigrant-confesses-killing-woman-found-suitcase/

  172. @AndrewR
    @Dave Pinsen

    Not sure whether your implied message is "this is what we've lost" or if it's "look how far back in time the rot goes."

    My personal interpretation of that photo is the latter. Those short-shorts-sporting thots would be old women already. Hindsight may be 20/20, but I think many wise people 50 years ago could have reasonably predicted how degenerate 2019 society would be based on the degeneracy already very apparent back then.

    Replies: @Clive Beaconsfield, @Mr. Anon

    The 70’s in many ways were the low point of American public morality. In at least few respects (attitudes toward sex with minors, say), we’ve improved since then.

  173. @RichardTaylor
    If White conservatives had any sense, they would encourage this discussion as a way to drive a wedge between Muslims and Jews in the Democratic party.

    But of course, White conservatives are clueless.

    Replies: @Simply Simon, @nsa, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    I don’t think the Jews in the Democratic party are Orthodox, no they are clearly secular. As to the Muslims they take Islamism and Sharia law seriously. But they are willing to go along and get along until the time is ripe to make their influence more pronounceable. No, I don’t think there is much conservatives can do to create a wedge between the two groups.

  174. @ThreeCranes
    @Northeast

    Popular wisdom would have it that the 1950's were a time when conservative values prevailed. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    The fifties saw the introduction of television into every home. This was a radical, unprecedented development in human history. For the first time someone uninvited, some foreign consciousness was autonomously functioning in the very bosom of your home and it was relentless. It could go on nonstop. Even if you were in the next room, you couldn't help but subconsciously hear its drone.

    Prior to television, human interaction was face to face. Communicating meant that you were half of a give and take dialogue--even when you spoke over the telephone. But television is different. It talks and projects and you listen and watch. It's one way. And that simple distinction has altered the consciousness of all of us.

    Replies: @Northeast

    The seeds of cultural collapse are difficult to pinpoint. They are deposited unseen & early. The apex of Americal civic culture was the 1950s IMO. That did not mean that the rot was not lurking already….it always is.

    Can you imagine America 2019 calling upon its citizens nationwide to study science in its schools to engage in the space race with the Soviets like was asked by Ike & Kennedy? America is currently much more concerned with legalizing weed & casinos being dropped into every state.

    I suppose the libertarians think this is progress.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Northeast

    This is what black pills me about our society some days.

    Decadence constantly being advanced as progress.

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Northeast

    Give the American young people an appropriate goal to aspire to: A US flag planted on Mars before 2030!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHaPj9YuGYw

    , @AndrewR
    @Northeast

    If you want to die, then fine, but don't romanticize a phenomenon that was a direct result of living in an era in which a civilization-destroying nuclear war was much more likely than it is today.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  175. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    Wow, so few cars.

  176. not being reported much, but haiti is on fire and on the verge of a civil war. what say the ‘not a shithole’ proclaimers to that? nothing, as usual. silence.

    has anybody been following this case of old serial killer samuel little? apparently this guy admits to murdering 93 people. his photographic memory of each murder, and his art ability, where he is sketching what they looked like right after he killed them, is leading detectives to solve cases going back into the 70s. this guys says he strangled women to death for 40 years across the entire US, in every state.

    this is a genuinely AMAZING story – and would be headline news everywhere. except samuel little is vibrant. so the case is getting almost zero coverage. HBD angle aside, this is a mind blowing case. probably, the most prolific serial killer in US history, and he remembers every detail.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @prime noticer


    this is a genuinely AMAZING story – and would be headline news everywhere. except samuel little is vibrant. so the case is getting almost zero coverage.
     
    When it does get coverage, the spin is that racist White law enforcement is to blame for not caring about Black victims.
  177. @Charles Pewitt
    Some Scottish guy named MacDonald makes an excellent point about the evangelicals getting just about none of their moral and cultural policies pushed in Swamp City DC but they do get the ISRAEL FIRST stuff pushed in Swamp City DC.

    Is this because the forces of ISRAEL FIRST treason use the evangelical vote as a fig leaf to hide the power of the Jew donors and Jew media owners?

    Kevin MacDonald can be counted on to use his Scottish discernment powers to bring things into better focus.

    Look at ISRAEL FIRST Jew Ham Saban and ISRAEL FIRST Harpy Hillary Clinton:

    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1095696141964914694

    Replies: @follyofwar, @Corvinus

    And Hillary’s daughter (some are not sure that it’s Bill’s) married a Jew. So has Ivanka, who converted to Orthodox and had her sons circumcised. Trump’s two older sons also married Jews. So did Caroline Kennedy. And then there’s Prez hopeful Kamala Harris, married to a Jew with two grown step-children, but none of her own.

    I recently saw a hilarious video about Kamala by a black comedian/commenter. He said that Kamala has no chance of winning the WH because blacks will never vote for a race traitor. OTOH, Obama, perhaps thinking ahead, married a black woman. Without the black vote, he said, a Democrat can’t win, which is pretty common knowledge. Something for the D’s to think about.

    I’m not convinced, however, that Evangelicals have no power. John Hagee’s Christians United for Israel are nothing more than Netanyahu’s Useful Idiots, but, without them, no Republican could be elected POTUS.

  178. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092210825228636161

    https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1092219347429396480

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092227273682550784

    https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1092229114143141889

    https://twitter.com/mkoplow/status/1092230000965750784

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1095400443562344454

    https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1095418717708734465

    Replies: @Escher, @Trevor H., @YetAnotherAnon, @Hail, @RobertTS, @Pericles, @El Dato

    I wonder how much a three-letter twitter handle cost that poor former bartender.

  179. @RichardTaylor
    If White conservatives had any sense, they would encourage this discussion as a way to drive a wedge between Muslims and Jews in the Democratic party.

    But of course, White conservatives are clueless.

    Replies: @Simply Simon, @nsa, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    “……..drive a wedge between the Muslims and the Jews……..”.
    The cock cutters vs the clit cutters?

  180. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    When California was still…well…California-the Golden State. The gold mine has since petered out.

  181. @AndrewR
    @Anon

    Whether or not these accusations are true, they remind me of the Obama birth certificate thing: a cucked, ridiculous, wasteful attempt to delegitimize a toxic politician who should best be delegitimized through far more direct means. Are we really ok with anti-white Muslim Somalis in our government as long as they aren't bigamous or guilty of immigration fraud? I know I'm not.

    Removing Omar from office or even our country would not even come close to fixing anything. Politicians like her and Obama are nothing but a symptom of our cultural rot.

    Replies: @Pericles, @jb

    How would you suggest Obama to be directly delegitimized?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Pericles

    His admitted background and beliefs. No need for absurd speculation that he wasn't born in the US.

  182. @RichardTaylor
    If White conservatives had any sense, they would encourage this discussion as a way to drive a wedge between Muslims and Jews in the Democratic party.

    But of course, White conservatives are clueless.

    Replies: @Simply Simon, @nsa, @Citizen of a Silly Country

    They’ll have a common enemy – us – to hold them together for a very long time. It’ll be a good generation or two before the White Menace is gone. Then they can turn to killing each other.

  183. Chateau Heartiste did a spoof of that poster a while ago and it was saved on the Wayback Machine.
    https://heartiste.wordpress.com/2017/01/31/we-the-chattel/

    I hope Shepard Fairey have a good sense of humor.

  184. @Buzz Mohawk
    @Tyrion 2

    Sorry, I don't play hasbara pong.

    https://i.skyrock.net/8508/30608508/pics/1952572067_1.gif

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @J.Ross, @tyrone

    aaaahh…..nostalgia ,now that was a great game:)

  185. @Dave Pinsen

    I think American women are starting to get into the idea that when the Muslims take over, they can throw their yoga pants away.

    They won’t have to diet or workout or worry about their hair anymore.
     
    That wasn’t how Houellebecq saw it in Submission.

    https://twitter.com/dpinsen/status/681678382808064000?s=21

    Replies: @tyrone

    no yoga pants ,no clitoris………..yippee!

  186. @istevefan
    @Lot


    The BDS vote and moving the embassy was engineered to split Dems.
     
    It was not engineered to split the Dems. It was about delivering to their supporters. And they came through like they always do. If only the GOP base could get the same devotion.

    PS. If you want to harm the democrats you need to split off from them the people most likely to support our positions. Namely, there is around 44 percent of the White vote that still votes for the openly anti-White party. I'd say at least a third to a half of them could probably agree with our positions,but don't because they are either not informed due to MSM programming, or they are virtual signaling for social gain.

    If you split off the Jewish vote from the democrats you will obviously hurt their fundraising. However, the last time we took into the party a bunch of renegade left-wing Jews it did not work out well. We got invade-the-world-invite-the-world on steroids. I am concerned that if the democrat Jewish vote up and left for the GOP, they would not suddenly become immigration restrictionists like us. But rather they would push the GOP to support looser immigration even more than the Chamber of Commerce has.

    Since I don't see the majority of Jews ever abandoning politics and just staying on the sideline, I don't see how to split them from the democrats without it backfiring on us. Either they stay with the democrats and keep the status quo, or they join the GOP and totally transform that party to suit their views.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Lot, @Lot, @Whiskey

    No voting our way out of this. Demographics alone of those already here insure this.

    Cutting the money and organizing energy out of them leaves Kamala Harris and Ocasio Cortez as the leaders without money or a smart cadre.

    Those White voters will always be anti White. Think of the as Brie Larson types or Soros among Jews.

    No hates or funds anti Usrael stuff more than Soros. He wants Israel destroyed so he pick up the offshore gas fields cheap.

  187. I think American women are starting to get into the idea that when the Muslims take over, they can throw their yoga pants away.

    On the contrary, Steve, wearing a hijab together with yoga pants sounds really hott! Rawr! Sexy!

  188. @follyofwar
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Indeed, I can think of nothing that more demonstrates Jewish control of the culture than the fact that most of us American gentiles have been circumcised.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Anonymous

    By that logic, though, are Jews also in control of the Muslim world?

    • Replies: @follyofwar
    @Mr. XYZ

    Apparently you don't know the history of this four thousand year old Jewish rite. Christ's death on the cross started a new religion. This new religion, Christianity, did away with the requirement to circumcise. For nearly two millennia Christians did not circumcise their sons. The Church thought the practice was evil - a mutilation of the flesh.

    To make a long story short, and to simplify the issue, that all began to change in 20th Century America, as circumcision became nearly universal, with Jewish doctors being its primary proponents. Thankfully, the rate is now dropping.

    Muslims, OTOH, and for reasons I can't explain, always practiced circumcision, and quite often on both sexes. So, you see, there is no comparison. I hope that answers your question.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

  189. @Buzz Mohawk
    Thank you, Steve, for noticing, and for writing about what you notice. Thank you in particular for mentioning the anti-First Amendment bill that the Senate has just passed on behalf of its Jewish handlers.

    The Emperor wears no clothes, and his circumcision is showing.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @follyofwar, @Hypnotoad666

    I love this new trope that you can’t say something that is labelled as a “trope.”

    It’s such a perfect way to shut down a line of inquiry without addressing the substance of a statement.
    I mean, I suppose it is a “trope” in politics that “money talks.” Donors don’t give money for no reason.
    They expect some return on investment.

    When you say this about the Koch brothers or oil companies or the NRA it’s an obvious truism. Say it about the Israel lobby and you are an anti-Semitic bigot. Go figure.

    I guess this new definition of “trope” is like the classic definition of a political “gaffe” – a true thing you weren’t supposed to say.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Hypnotoad666


    this new definition of “trope”
     
    The once-respectable term 'Canard' likewise fell to Jewish linguistic monopoly power.

    Canard, (n) an unfounded rumor or story.
     
    Most often seen in English today with "anti-Semitic" attached to the front end. Its use has been in steady decline since the 1980s (Ngram), which is about when the phrase "anti-Semitic canard" reaches its first peak (Ngram).

    It's plausible that fewer and fewer have wanted to use the term 'canard' because it became so psychologically tied to anti-Semitism. Some probably even vaguely believied that 'canard,' as a word, was some kind of synonym for anti-Semitism.

    Google's top ten results for the phrase "anti * canard" are:

    -- 7/10 anti-Semitic canard or variants (anti-Jewish, anti-Semitism),
    -- 1/10 anti-Science canard,
    -- 1/10 anti-Catholic canard,
    -- 1/10 anti-India canard

    As for Ilhan Omar's AIPAC-attaq, perhaps they didn't use "canard" because it had worn out its use in that way. (Or perhaps "unfounded rumor" is not applicable: AIPAC does donate political money.)

    A search shows some have been using 'canard' to bash Omar, though, including one stronghold of Jewish power: From a Google News search of "ilhan omar canard":


    Trump, No Stranger to Jewish Stereotypes, Rejects Ilhan Omar's...
    New York Times Feb 12, 2019

    Mr. Trump rejected the apology of Representative Ilhan Omar, one of the first ... As president, Mr. Trump fanned the anti-Semitic canard that Mr. ...
     

  190. I’ve been telling my young wife for some time now – one day soon, you’ll be wrapped, meaning dressed in a potato sack with a dish towel on your head. She usually will then throw a shoe at me. But I assure her, it will happen.

    It’s what the Elites want.

    • Replies: @donut
    @GSR

    If she threw a shoe at you she's already half way there .

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @GSR

    You married a Khrushchev?

  191. Trumps biggest problem is the alt right. The only tool he has against the military, bureaucracy, media, legal profession, rinos and Dems is popular support.

    Which goes away when supposed, in reality FBI tools parade around as nazi larpers.

    Joe average is never going to go see Springtime for Hitler. No matter how the fuhrer can dance your pants off. Joe average is all Trump has.

  192. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    In the Fifties I was in elementary school in the suburbs of Salt Lake City. Every single kid in that school was of European descent except for one Navajo kid who had been adopted by a Mormon family.

    The largest group was Scandanavian, then English/Scottish/Welsh and Dutch. A handful were Italian and Greek. In the spring the boys would compete in a marbles contest and the girls in a hopscotch contest. The last day of school before Christmas the entire school gathered in the entrance hallway and sang Christmas carols. We’d walk home of school and buy penny candy at Economy Drug. In March they had paper kites for sell for 10 cents.

    • Replies: @Northeast
    @Hark hark the snark

    They erased that country which you grew up in. Unless you live in certain geographical areas like northern New England or parts of the upper Midwest the only place you will experience what you did growing up is watching old film & videos.

  193. @Abe
    @Tyrion 2


    Can we have some appreciation for Trump – an only just billionaire – who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?

     

    Trump is the most patriotic President since the era of the Founding Fathers. He has literally sacrificed his fortune and sacred honor to do what he thinks best for his country. Deep State hatchetman Mueller is trying to financially ruin, and then imprison, Trump AND his family members as an object lesson to any future outsider impudent enough to think he can change the system from without rather than coming up through it from within and being corrupted and controlled by it. Even in today’s Russia or the worst kleptocracies of South America I don’t think they stoop so low as to destroy the families of political opponents.

    Replies: @donut

    ” most patriotic President since the era of the Founding Fathers” . You must mean 1948 and I’m sure he is but this isn’t Israel .

  194. @Lot
    @Hail

    Sorry couldn't resist.

    http://thinkingmeme.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Best-20-cat-memes19.jpg

    Replies: @Hail

    Little Known Unz Review Commenting Fact 2:

    You can endorse your own comments.

    (I have seen the commenter atlantis_dweller do this; he sometimes LOLs his own comments.)

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    @Hail

    "And what's more, I agree with everything I just said."

    ---Piet Koornhof

  195. @Paleo Liberal
    @Hypnotoad666

    I remember finding a copy of The NY Times from the early 1970s. It listed 1 BR apartments in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of Manhattan for about $150-200 month. These days that would be &2-4,000 for a 1 BR

    Replies: @Hail

    1 BR apartments in the Greenwich Village neighborhood of Manhattan for about $150-200 month

    Inflation adjusted:

    $150 in 1970 = $973 in 2019
    $200 in 1970 = $1,297 in 2019

    $150 in 1973 = $850 in 2019
    $200 in 1973 = $1,134 in 2019

    Smoothing out those numbers, the price you saw likely implies a one-bedroom apartment there today for between $900 to $1,250/month, inflatiton adjusted.

    If your impression of $2,000 to $4,000 for an equal unit on the market today is accurate, it’s most likely 2.5x to 3x more expensive (inflation adjusted), possibly even up to 4x. So it goes!

  196. @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

    A born-taqiyya artist questioning someone else’s veracity.

    You just can’t make this shit up.

    Also love the Elmer Fudd accent on top of the broken English grammar.

  197. @Anonymous
    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092210825228636161

    https://twitter.com/PopChassid/status/1092219347429396480

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1092227273682550784

    https://twitter.com/saikatc/status/1092229114143141889

    https://twitter.com/mkoplow/status/1092230000965750784

    https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1095400443562344454

    https://twitter.com/CityBureaucrat/status/1095418717708734465

    Replies: @Escher, @Trevor H., @YetAnotherAnon, @Hail, @RobertTS, @Pericles, @El Dato

    Damn I was hoping this would end up as a threesome involving fetishes about nylon stockings and fine furniture, to paraphrase Neal Stephenson.

    Then 2nd City Bureaucrat cockblocks everything.

  198. @Elsewhere
    A trend I've noticed among college students (mostly among girls) is the wearing of winter hats even indoors. I once asked one why she was doing that, and she replied simply, "I didn't have time to wash my hair today." Another student confirmed that this is the usual reason.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Elsewhere, they should wear their hair in dreads or rastaf style, never need to wash it.

  199. @Pericles
    @AndrewR

    How would you suggest Obama to be directly delegitimized?

    Replies: @AndrewR

    His admitted background and beliefs. No need for absurd speculation that he wasn’t born in the US.

  200. @Hail
    @Lot

    Little Known Unz Review Commenting Fact 2:

    You can endorse your own comments.

    (I have seen the commenter atlantis_dweller do this; he sometimes LOLs his own comments.)

    Replies: @Intelligent Dasein

    “And what’s more, I agree with everything I just said.”

    —Piet Koornhof

  201. @J.Ross
    @Lot

    Corbyn caused such division that he won every leadership challenge and looks to not be going anywhere any time soon.

    Replies: @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @Reg Cæsar

    He won because Labour changed its rules without thinking it through. Used to be you had to volunteer X hours a year to the party and show up at meetings to vote. They changed it to just having to pay £6.

    It would be like a vote of registered Dems electing AOC speaker when 80% of actual congressmen oppose her.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Lot

    Labour is a political organisation that happens to have representatives in parliament. The Conservatives are a parliamentary group that happens to have a political organisation.

  202. @Mr. Anon
    @Hail


    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.
     
    I agree. I would place the peak in the years 1969 to 1976 - the Moon landing to the Bicentennial. There was a lot of good feeling in the country surrounding the bicentennial; the country was at peace and reasonably happy with itself. The 80s weren't bad, and even the 90s weren't so bad, although the rot was setting in. By the time of Bush the Younger (Lesser, Dumber, etc.), it became plain that the wheels were coming off.

    Replies: @Flip, @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @Lagertha

    You think so? I remember social turmoil from the draft and the Vietnam War and then high inflation and gas shortages.

  203. @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

    There was a time when white Christian males asked the tough questions.

    Elliott Abrams: A Human Rights Horror Show in Three Acts
    https://original.antiwar.com/brett_wilkins/2019/02/01/elliott-abrams-a-human-rights-horror-show-in-three-acts/

  204. @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

    The c**cksucker gave us MS13 , what are we going to get from Venezuela ? A quarter of a million “refugees” . I’ll bet that Jew never expected to squirm before Congress .

  205. @Hark hark the snark
    @Northeast

    In the Fifties I was in elementary school in the suburbs of Salt Lake City. Every single kid in that school was of European descent except for one Navajo kid who had been adopted by a Mormon family.

    The largest group was Scandanavian, then English/Scottish/Welsh and Dutch. A handful were Italian and Greek. In the spring the boys would compete in a marbles contest and the girls in a hopscotch contest. The last day of school before Christmas the entire school gathered in the entrance hallway and sang Christmas carols. We’d walk home of school and buy penny candy at Economy Drug. In March they had paper kites for sell for 10 cents.

    Replies: @Northeast

    They erased that country which you grew up in. Unless you live in certain geographical areas like northern New England or parts of the upper Midwest the only place you will experience what you did growing up is watching old film & videos.

  206. @Another Canadian
    @donut

    Donut, check out the Great Indian Warpath:
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Indian_Warpath

    Replies: @donut

    Thanks that was facinating , thanks to too . So from scanning the entry I get the impression that one could go from Alabama or Florida to the NE US . I wonder if anyone has analyzed the extent of the trade , like they did in the old world . Any way thanks .

    • Replies: @donut
    @donut

    to @Hereward too

    , @Another Canadian
    @donut

    Donut, you may want to try a search on names of known Indian traders prior to the French and Indian War since there appears to be some extant documentation, probably for tax purposes. South Carolina appears to have a big list of licensed traders.

    https://nativeheritageproject.com/2014/04/09/south-carolina-indian-traders-1750-1754/

  207. This poster is useful because Trump can use it in his campaign, too.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Yeah "America First" . And he was good friends with Epstein . I wonder if Bibi makes him wear little red panties and a manzere .

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS8nXc3X-6k

    Hey! it's the orange man !

    , @Corvinus
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    "This poster is useful because Trump can use it in his campaign, too."

    By proving that he is beholden to Jewish interests at the expense of American interests?

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    , @IHTG
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    It might be less useful after Bibi gets indicted!

  208. @donut
    @Another Canadian

    Thanks that was facinating , thanks to @Hereward too . So from scanning the entry I get the impression that one could go from Alabama or Florida to the NE US . I wonder if anyone has analyzed the extent of the trade , like they did in the old world . Any way thanks .

    Replies: @donut, @Another Canadian

    to too

  209. @Mr. Anon
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Quite right. These commenters like Tyrion 2 and Lot don't argue in good faith. Just bring up the Liberty incident or Jonathan Pollard to see what their real agenda is. Or just notice some sociological fact that is a matter of record, for that matter. They are simply partisan propagandists, promoting their own particular ethnic agenda. We don't need to engage with them at all. We already know what they think; what they think blasts out at us from the media 24/7. We should just go our own way - carry on our own conversations - without any reference to them.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    They say that it is pointless trying to engage with someone on an intellectual level who is 20 IQ points lower. I feel that with you it is much more than that. Since I am an average type of guy and so probably 100, I guess you’re about 50. Do you struggle to operate door handles?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Tyrion 2

    'They say that it is pointless trying to engage with someone on an intellectual level who is 20 IQ points lower. I feel that with you it is much more than that. Since I am an average type of guy and so probably 100, I guess you’re about 50. Do you struggle to operate door handles?'

    I take it Mr. Anon hit the mark.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Tyrion 2

    Don't sell yourself short (er, I mean, well.............) - you are quite clearly below average.

  210. @J.Ross
    @Lot

    Corbyn caused such division that he won every leadership challenge and looks to not be going anywhere any time soon.

    Replies: @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @Reg Cæsar

    He’ll never win an election outside of his tiny clique of Labour members. He’s like the Head of a Student Union. Only the nutters vote and they’re all insane.

    He was boosted in the last general election but a broken government and him receiving the entire protest vote. He should have romped home. Instead, he lost worse than Labour in 2010 under absolute failure Gordon Brown. This is sad.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Tyrion 2

    It's only sad if Corbyn is blocking the path of some really talented person. If Corbyn is obstructing some second Blair then it's positively good.

  211. @AndrewR
    @Anon

    Whether or not these accusations are true, they remind me of the Obama birth certificate thing: a cucked, ridiculous, wasteful attempt to delegitimize a toxic politician who should best be delegitimized through far more direct means. Are we really ok with anti-white Muslim Somalis in our government as long as they aren't bigamous or guilty of immigration fraud? I know I'm not.

    Removing Omar from office or even our country would not even come close to fixing anything. Politicians like her and Obama are nothing but a symptom of our cultural rot.

    Replies: @Pericles, @jb

    I think this is less about delegitimizing Ilhan Omar than delegitimizing the media. If you can force everyone to acknowledge that one particular immigrant politician is a lying fraud, well there are still going to be a lot of people who’ll say “but that’s just one, I’m sure the rest are good”. But if you could force everyone to acknowledge that the media systematically ignores evidence of wrongdoing by members of the Left’s favored victim groups that would be considerably bigger win. Given Ilhan Omar’s current high profile, conclusively proving the accusations against her would be a major step in that direction, so the story is definitely worth pursuing.

  212. @GSR
    I've been telling my young wife for some time now - one day soon, you'll be wrapped, meaning dressed in a potato sack with a dish towel on your head. She usually will then throw a shoe at me. But I assure her, it will happen.

    It's what the Elites want.

    Replies: @donut, @Reg Cæsar

    If she threw a shoe at you she’s already half way there .

  213. @Anonymous
    Indeed, the same species of political myopia seems to affect the billionaires' fan club masturbation society in-house comic, The Economist magazine.

    Importing unlimited hordes of third workers into white nations, (and only white nations mind you), goody-goody gumdrops!

    But the fact that the vast multitude of dirt-poor paupers which The Economist desperately seeks to import will *inevitably* lead to permanent Marxist confiscatory government, seems strangely to elude those Capitalists' professional brownnosers.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    But the fact that the vast multitude of dirt-poor paupers which The Economist desperately seeks to import will *inevitably* lead to permanent Marxist confiscatory government, seems strangely to elude those Capitalists’ professional brownnosers.

    Libertarians as well. These open border libertarians are not really libertarian but actually promoting some sort of socialism where a shared asset of people in nice nations is redistributed to whomever can grab it.

    But beyond that these phony “libertarians” are simply incapable of grasping that any level of libertarianism depends precisely on having people who actually value that and see it as “fair”. That’s basically only going to be in nations with Anglo-Saxon traditions and where enough of the populace is on board with those traditions to maintain them.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @AnotherDad


    That’s basically only going to be in nations with Anglo-Saxon traditions and where enough of the populace is on board with those traditions to maintain them.

     

    Exactly: You may like this as well as many others, here; it is long, but at least, my comments aren't.
    https://youtu.be/1-kdygA5U_k
  214. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    This poster is useful because Trump can use it in his campaign, too.

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2019/02/bibi-trump-poster-e1549179597571-1024x640.jpg

    Replies: @donut, @Corvinus, @IHTG

    Yeah “America First” . And he was good friends with Epstein . I wonder if Bibi makes him wear little red panties and a manzere .

    Hey! it’s the orange man !

  215. @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

    I don’t think Omar looks hot, and neither does this woman at the store. She constantly looks around to see which men are paying attention to her.

    The hijab, which is intended to force some degree of modesty on women, is now paradoxically a way for them to draw more attention to themselves. I ate at a middle eastern restaurant a couple of years ago, and was served by an obviously blonde American woman wearing a scarf head covering. It’s possible that the owner asked her to wear it because of his customers, but she obviously was expecting to be noticed and complimented.

    The nature of women never really changes.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anon7

    There is a Japanese restaurant in my area that has white geisha girls and Filipino chefs.

    Totally kills the vibe.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  216. @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

    She’s about as hot as Elliott Abrams.

  217. @Clyde
    @Dave Pinsen

    That White Mustang Girls photo is from>>>>>and more photos like it>>>>> http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/photography/cruising-van-nuys-boulevard-los-angeles-1972/

    Cruising Van Nuys Boulevard, Los Angeles, 1972
    BY PAUL NIEDERMEYER – JANUARY 28, 2017
    CC reader Michael M. sent me a link to a gallery of photos shot on Van Nuys Blvd. in 1972, by photographer Rick McCloskey, and part of his book, Los Angeles in the 1970s. It’s a nice slice of youth and automotive culture of the times.

    Replies: @MarkinLA

    I can’t believe all the lowriders in those pictures. Whittier Blvd in East Los Angeles was where all the Mexicans cruised. The Mexicans loved the lowriders. The white guys preferred to jack up their rides, hot rod style with the lifted rear end the and the bigger tires.

  218. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    This poster is useful because Trump can use it in his campaign, too.

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2019/02/bibi-trump-poster-e1549179597571-1024x640.jpg

    Replies: @donut, @Corvinus, @IHTG

    “This poster is useful because Trump can use it in his campaign, too.”

    By proving that he is beholden to Jewish interests at the expense of American interests?

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Corvinus

    The poster is working its mojo in drawing out the latent anti-Semitism in apologists for the New Left Wing?

  219. Just as previously stated :

    Omar is self-collapsing political blackstar.

    Any politician that makes Elliot Abrams, or Mr. Adams ( as totally unprepared Omar gentilized that perennial crock-pot-democracy-spirit cooker ) to look just as some random AARP card-carrying citizen being zealously tortured by some foreign born, high-hijab, MAGA Scare inquisitor – does not have a political future.

    Now, don’t think twice, but watch this video that Wojcicki’s Tube unlists with a warning –
    “This video is unlisted. Be considerate and think twice before sharing.”:

    By the way, President George Ech! Daubl Yu Bush was absolutely right when he claimed that “reading is the basics for all learning” – Omarosa II of Somalia is a very, very bad learner.

    Extra credit:
    Why C-SPAN camera does not provide us with a full coverage of Zina Bash’s Naughty Fingers?

  220. @Charles Pewitt
    Some Scottish guy named MacDonald makes an excellent point about the evangelicals getting just about none of their moral and cultural policies pushed in Swamp City DC but they do get the ISRAEL FIRST stuff pushed in Swamp City DC.

    Is this because the forces of ISRAEL FIRST treason use the evangelical vote as a fig leaf to hide the power of the Jew donors and Jew media owners?

    Kevin MacDonald can be counted on to use his Scottish discernment powers to bring things into better focus.

    Look at ISRAEL FIRST Jew Ham Saban and ISRAEL FIRST Harpy Hillary Clinton:

    https://twitter.com/TOOEdit/status/1095696141964914694

    Replies: @follyofwar, @Corvinus

    “Look at ISRAEL FIRST Jew Ham Saban and ISRAEL FIRST Harpy Hillary Clinton”

    Perhaps you neglected to NOTICE, but check out Comment 182. Clearly, Trump is about ISRAEL FIRST.

    Furthermore, a good deal of evangelicals voted for Trump–despite his own repeated immoral conduct that supposedly they abhor.

    So, how is your campaign for running for political office coming?

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Corvinus


    So, how is your campaign for running for political office coming?

     

    I have made preliminary plans to form an exploratory committee to mull over whether or not I should challenge Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary. My lawyers and advisors tell me to phrase it like that to avoid any irritating interference from the nitpicking scolds at the FEC.

    Thank you for your interest in my campaign!

    Trumpy is a lousy debater. I would love to debate Trumpy on his support for nation-wrecking mass legal immigration. Trumpy might drop out of the campaign like LBJ after I got through with him.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

  221. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Northeast


    My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.
     
    Hard to feel any sympathy for them. They were the generation that oversaw the destruction, and silently stood by.

    Now, the smart white people are preparing while the clueless majority march towards the slaughter like sheep.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Now, the smart white people are preparing while the clueless majority march towards the slaughter like sheep.”

    So what makes you one of these “smart white people”? Furthermore, are not your fellow whites also part of this “clueless majority march”? If so, that is an anti-white statement.

    It’s not who we are.

  222. The young, black congresswoman strayed out of line, and the Zionists have decided she must be gotten into line.

  223. @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

    “Minnesota Nice”

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Mogadishu Nice.

  224. @Hypnotoad666
    @Buzz Mohawk

    I love this new trope that you can't say something that is labelled as a "trope."

    It's such a perfect way to shut down a line of inquiry without addressing the substance of a statement.
    I mean, I suppose it is a "trope" in politics that "money talks." Donors don't give money for no reason.
    They expect some return on investment.

    When you say this about the Koch brothers or oil companies or the NRA it's an obvious truism. Say it about the Israel lobby and you are an anti-Semitic bigot. Go figure.

    I guess this new definition of "trope" is like the classic definition of a political "gaffe" - a true thing you weren't supposed to say.

    Replies: @Hail

    this new definition of “trope”

    The once-respectable term ‘Canard’ likewise fell to Jewish linguistic monopoly power.

    Canard, (n) an unfounded rumor or story.

    Most often seen in English today with “anti-Semitic” attached to the front end. Its use has been in steady decline since the 1980s (Ngram), which is about when the phrase “anti-Semitic canard” reaches its first peak (Ngram).

    It’s plausible that fewer and fewer have wanted to use the term ‘canard’ because it became so psychologically tied to anti-Semitism. Some probably even vaguely believied that ‘canard,’ as a word, was some kind of synonym for anti-Semitism.

    Google’s top ten results for the phrase “anti * canard” are:

    — 7/10 anti-Semitic canard or variants (anti-Jewish, anti-Semitism),
    — 1/10 anti-Science canard,
    — 1/10 anti-Catholic canard,
    — 1/10 anti-India canard

    As for Ilhan Omar’s AIPAC-attaq, perhaps they didn’t use “canard” because it had worn out its use in that way. (Or perhaps “unfounded rumor” is not applicable: AIPAC does donate political money.)

    A search shows some have been using ‘canard’ to bash Omar, though, including one stronghold of Jewish power: From a Google News search of “ilhan omar canard”:

    Trump, No Stranger to Jewish Stereotypes, Rejects Ilhan Omar’s…
    New York Times Feb 12, 2019

    Mr. Trump rejected the apology of Representative Ilhan Omar, one of the first … As president, Mr. Trump fanned the anti-Semitic canard that Mr. …

  225. What does the rapid spread of ‘gay marriage’ and Anti-BDS laws have in common?

    Guess who were behind them both?

  226. The money is important. But it’s really only part of the story. More importantly, they have made it taboo to criticize (or even point out) Jewish activism while simultaneously making it taboo to engage in “white” activism (i.e., defense of the public interest). Just compare the reaction to mild criticism of AIPAC with the reaction to Steve King’s attempts at defending the majority interest. The contrast could not be more striking.

    Jews have been so effective in suppressing criticism (or noticing) that many goyim are no longer even familiar with many of these subtle “antisemitic tropes.” For example, here’s Michael Kinsley talking about criticism of Goldman Sachs.

    Then there is this oft-quoted passage at the beginning of a lengthy rant against Goldman Sachs by Matt Taibbi last July in Rolling Stone: “The world’s most powerful investment bank is a great vampire squid wrapped around the face of humanity, relentlessly jamming its blood funnel into anything that smells like money.” This sentence, many have charged, goes beyond stereotypes about Jews and money, touches other classic anti-Semitic themes about Jews as foreign or inhuman elements poisoning humanity and society, and–to some critics– even seems to reference the notorious “blood libel” that Jews use the blood of Christian babies to make matzoh.

    Taibbi claims to have been utterly blindsided by accusations that his article was anti-Semitic. He says he finds the idea “ludicrous.” He denies any relation between his words and classic anti-Semitic stereotypes. His critics find this impossible to believe. Could such a sophisticated writer (the article skewers Goldman with great skill and style) actually not know about the stereotypes and ancient lies that this passage echoes, and could he actually be surprised that there would be people calling his article, fairly or otherwise, anti-semitic? It may be possible to call Goldman Sachs a bloodsucker without being an anti-Semite. But is it possible to call Goldman Sachs a bloodsucker and then be surprised when you’re called an anti-Semite?

    This is a testament to the thorough success of Jewish activism. Anyone who points out anything about Jews soon finds himself releasing a hasty apology statement. Consequently, today most goyim are not even aware of these landmines and most often only stumble upon them unawares.

    On some corners of the internet, Jewish influence is now being given due attention, albeit often in a very coarse and superfluously offensive way. We are a long way from addressing it in domestic policy. But with Israel and Middle Eastern affairs, the suggestion of Jewish influence is intuitive and natural. That is the best place to start, although breaking into to “mainstream” venues is still a serious challenge. In domains like immigration and multiculturalism, the Jewish role is more subtle, less intuitive, and difficult to explain to the general public.

  227. @Corvinus
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    "This poster is useful because Trump can use it in his campaign, too."

    By proving that he is beholden to Jewish interests at the expense of American interests?

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    The poster is working its mojo in drawing out the latent anti-Semitism in apologists for the New Left Wing?

  228. @Anon7
    @Bill B.

    I don’t think Omar looks hot, and neither does this woman at the store. She constantly looks around to see which men are paying attention to her.

    The hijab, which is intended to force some degree of modesty on women, is now paradoxically a way for them to draw more attention to themselves. I ate at a middle eastern restaurant a couple of years ago, and was served by an obviously blonde American woman wearing a scarf head covering. It’s possible that the owner asked her to wear it because of his customers, but she obviously was expecting to be noticed and complimented.

    The nature of women never really changes.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    There is a Japanese restaurant in my area that has white geisha girls and Filipino chefs.

    Totally kills the vibe.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPWDLMFfZAg

  229. @Tyrion 2
    @J.Ross

    He'll never win an election outside of his tiny clique of Labour members. He's like the Head of a Student Union. Only the nutters vote and they're all insane.

    He was boosted in the last general election but a broken government and him receiving the entire protest vote. He should have romped home. Instead, he lost worse than Labour in 2010 under absolute failure Gordon Brown. This is sad.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    It’s only sad if Corbyn is blocking the path of some really talented person. If Corbyn is obstructing some second Blair then it’s positively good.

    • Agree: Tyrion 2
  230. You claim that Jews are only now beginning to question whether their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims was good for Jews. I see no evidence of that, except perhaps among some of the most WASPy neoconservative pro-Western-CIV Jews, who were never all that hot for Muslim immigration to start.

  231. This is like the rider blaming the horse.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/02/israel-christians-republicans/

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anon

    Congress has just rushed through emergency legislation reassuring their masters of their loyalty.

  232. I’m lookin’ for a man named Jim.
    I am a pool-shootin’ boy
    My name is Willie McCoy
    But down home they call me Slim

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/feb/12/california-police-shooting-willie-mccoy

  233. @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

    Elliot Abrams should have said, “Very cute. Now when exactly did you get off the banana boat?”

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Clyde


    Elliot Abrams should have said, “Very cute. Now when exactly did you get off the banana boat?”
     
    One might ask Abrams the same thing.

    And, by the way, f**k Elliot Abrams:

    https://www.nationalaffairs.com/public_interest/detail/immigration-policy-who-gets-in-and-why

  234. @J.Ross
    @Lot

    Corbyn caused such division that he won every leadership challenge and looks to not be going anywhere any time soon.

    Replies: @Lot, @Tyrion 2, @Reg Cæsar

    Corbyn caused such division that he won every leadership challenge and looks to not be going anywhere any time soon.

    I wish some prominent lefty in this country– or shrewd righty– would ape his proposal for separate bus and train cars for women.

    Where are the feminists? Come on, Mexico City has had them for years!

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Reg Cæsar

    Public transportation is generally used by poor urban minorities. The people who would take up this mantle and most of their voter base have cars.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  235. @Mr. Anon
    @Hail


    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.
     
    I agree. I would place the peak in the years 1969 to 1976 - the Moon landing to the Bicentennial. There was a lot of good feeling in the country surrounding the bicentennial; the country was at peace and reasonably happy with itself. The 80s weren't bad, and even the 90s weren't so bad, although the rot was setting in. By the time of Bush the Younger (Lesser, Dumber, etc.), it became plain that the wheels were coming off.

    Replies: @Flip, @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @Lagertha

  236. @Tyrion 2
    @istevefan

    Every time that the Republicans manage to provoke some Democrat into saying something stupid, the Republicans gain votes from the mainstream. The right isn't talking endlessly about Ilhan Omar's Tweets because they think it will help the Dems with the average voter! just as the left didn't endlessly mischaracterise Steve King's comments because they thought it'd help the Republicans.

    The problem, in 2016, for the Dems was that they'd been getting high on their own supply; so when Trump said things that were actually pretty innocuous the Dems broadcast them all over the place in faux outrage and looked stupid. At least, to those who had other sources of information.

    Oh no, Trump made a kind-hearted joke about Jewish donors! Oh no, Trump said many chicks dig celebrity billionaires! Oh no, Trump said that Mexico has a crime problem but that there are obviously still good people. The biggest problem for Trump was when the alt right took the media's characterisation semi-seriously and a handful of over-excited nitwits brandished swastika signs in Charlottesville.


    The game seems to be: brand your opponents as something obnoxious, wait for a handful of over-excited idiots on their side to embrace it and then broadcast it endlessly.

    Replies: @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar

    Swastikas are so gay.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Reg Cæsar

    let's not get started on the uniforms!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  237. @GSR
    I've been telling my young wife for some time now - one day soon, you'll be wrapped, meaning dressed in a potato sack with a dish towel on your head. She usually will then throw a shoe at me. But I assure her, it will happen.

    It's what the Elites want.

    Replies: @donut, @Reg Cæsar

    You married a Khrushchev?

  238. @donut
    " I’m struck by how much Rep. Omar, who is quite pretty for a member of Congress,"

    Jesus , Steve you need either you eyes or your head examined .

    On another topic : as I was picking my way through the soggy ground today avoiding other peoples muddy footsteps I got to thinking about Indian wilderness trails and how they are formed and how extensive a network they created . Were they just local game trails or was there an extensive network for trade and war , and how far could they travel on the trails . I assume they used waterways whenever they could but not always . I couldn't find much online .

    Replies: @Another Canadian, @Hereward, @Lowe

    I was counting the seconds before some faggot piped in with “no, she ain’t pretty, neither!” Good job.

  239. Indeed, Hillary gave her disastrous “basket of deplorables” speech to an audience of white gay donors at the Old New York Stock Exchange.

    The one co-founded by Emma Lazarus’s grandpa.

  240. @follyofwar
    @Dave Pinsen

    Being born in 1951, the early seventies were very horny times for young men. The short shorts were great, but the miniskirts were even better. Girls were not yet all tatted up. But, I liked to go back even further in my reading, when I actually read novels. For me, nothing more captured the post-WWII haunting beauty of America than Jack Kerouac's "On the Road." There was freedom then. The early '70s, the period of my military service, were still ruined by the senseless tragedy of Vietnam.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dave Pinsen

    The early seventies were born in 1951?

  241. @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross


    Corbyn caused such division that he won every leadership challenge and looks to not be going anywhere any time soon.
     
    I wish some prominent lefty in this country-- or shrewd righty-- would ape his proposal for separate bus and train cars for women.

    Where are the feminists? Come on, Mexico City has had them for years!

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Public transportation is generally used by poor urban minorities. The people who would take up this mantle and most of their voter base have cars.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @J.Ross

    The point isn't to improve public transportation, it's to stir up a hornet's nest. That's why I suggested a "shrewd righty".

  242. @Hail
    @Dave Pinsen

    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.

    I understand the median White American living as of early 2019 was b.1974, and at some point in coming months it will roll over to the median White American being b.1975. Which is to say, most of us (the living) missed out on Peak USA. And yet still the warm glow of the peak lasted for many years to come. The glow for the first time looks distinctly dim, to many, partly chronicled at iSteve over the 2000s and 2010s.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Hypnotoad666, @The Last Real Calvinist

    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.

    So disco really did ruin everything, much as we Gen Xers realized in retrospect.

  243. @Dieter Kief
    @Dave Pinsen

    Great picture, thanks! Heartwarming.


    "It's like you standing in the window / Of a house nobody lives in / And I'm sitting in the car /
    Across the way/ It's an early model Chevrolet..."

    Jackson Browne, Late for the Sky.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Dave Pinsen

    Clyde Jackson Browne.

  244. Ocosio Cortez just needs to shut up and get nude for a magazine spread.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Tony

    'Ocosio Cortez just needs to shut up and get nude for a magazine spread.'

    That IS a thought. Always good to see someone thinking outside the box.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  245. @Anon
    This is like the rider blaming the horse.

    https://mondoweiss.net/2019/02/israel-christians-republicans/

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Congress has just rushed through emergency legislation reassuring their masters of their loyalty.

  246. If you think Ilhan Omar is passably fetching (or remotely resembles the Orientalist fetish image in the post), check out the wife of one of Strayan media’s pet Muzzies – her Twitter bio pic does her only reasonable justice; in person she’s actually significantly more attractive and impressive.

    That should not matter a damn; being pretty has fuck-all to do with having anything sensible to say. Furthermore, subscribing to a set of stupid primitive fairy stories indicates cognitive shortcomings that would embarrass a dim 4-year-old.

    I’ve said it before: if a woman wants to be taken seriously, she ought to be handed a packet of wet wipes and told to wash every trace of coloured mud off her face. Then let her state her case again, and see if it gets the same accolades.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    @Kratoklastes


    I’ve said it before: if a woman wants to be taken seriously, she ought to be handed a packet of wet wipes and told to wash every trace of coloured mud off her face. Then let her state her case again, and see if it gets the same accolades.
     
    '

    Uhh...

    https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/02/12/first-female-viper-demo-team-pilot-relieved-after-two-weeks/

    White American women are the second most over applauded group in the world.
  247. @Anon
    Hence, many liberals Jews are only now beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    liberal

    Replies: @Russ, @anon, @anon

    Someone at the Gateway Pundit did a nice job of juxtaposing the ADL response to I. Omar and the ADL response to Steve King. It went completely as expected.

  248. @Dieter Kief
    @Dave Pinsen

    Great picture, thanks! Heartwarming.


    "It's like you standing in the window / Of a house nobody lives in / And I'm sitting in the car /
    Across the way/ It's an early model Chevrolet..."

    Jackson Browne, Late for the Sky.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb, @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @Dave Pinsen

    So I always get nostalgic with that song
    But in my room its forced
    It has to be in some car across the street
    And I always catch the back of your head in the crowd
    Don’t turn around its never you
    And you ruin those memories

    – Ian Thornley (the Canadian Chris Cornell).

  249. @Mr. Anon
    @Hail


    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.
     
    I agree. I would place the peak in the years 1969 to 1976 - the Moon landing to the Bicentennial. There was a lot of good feeling in the country surrounding the bicentennial; the country was at peace and reasonably happy with itself. The 80s weren't bad, and even the 90s weren't so bad, although the rot was setting in. By the time of Bush the Younger (Lesser, Dumber, etc.), it became plain that the wheels were coming off.

    Replies: @Flip, @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @Lagertha

    Don Cornelius does beat the hell out of Tennessee Coates, so there’s that.

  250. @follyofwar
    @Dave Pinsen

    Being born in 1951, the early seventies were very horny times for young men. The short shorts were great, but the miniskirts were even better. Girls were not yet all tatted up. But, I liked to go back even further in my reading, when I actually read novels. For me, nothing more captured the post-WWII haunting beauty of America than Jack Kerouac's "On the Road." There was freedom then. The early '70s, the period of my military service, were still ruined by the senseless tragedy of Vietnam.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Dave Pinsen

    I had a copy of On The Road with a cover photo of a 20-something girl wearing my grandmother’s hairdo. I guess it wasn’t a grandma ‘do in the ’50s.

  251. @Northeast
    @ThreeCranes

    The seeds of cultural collapse are difficult to pinpoint. They are deposited unseen & early. The apex of Americal civic culture was the 1950s IMO. That did not mean that the rot was not lurking already....it always is.

    Can you imagine America 2019 calling upon its citizens nationwide to study science in its schools to engage in the space race with the Soviets like was asked by Ike & Kennedy? America is currently much more concerned with legalizing weed & casinos being dropped into every state.

    I suppose the libertarians think this is progress.

    Replies: @Corn, @Joe Stalin, @AndrewR

    This is what black pills me about our society some days.

    Decadence constantly being advanced as progress.

  252. @Jon

    These striking inequalities might suggest that the many Jewish journalists who have so enthusiastically promoted the concept of White Privilege should worry whether nonwhites follow the same logic to believe in Jewish Privilege.
     
    At this point, White Privilege is just an anti-Semitic dog whistle.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  253. @Daniel H
    @Dave Pinsen

    Clean 1969 Mustang, two pretty friends. Wow! This dude didn't realize how fortunate he was.

    Replies: @Dr. X

    You don’t see kids that young who can afford a new Mustang any more. Any time I see a new Mustang on the road it’s got some gray-haired Boomer between the ages of 65 and 75 behind the wheel.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Dr. X


    You don’t see kids that young who can afford a new Mustang any more. Any time I see a new Mustang on the road it’s got some gray-haired Boomer between the ages of 65 and 75 behind the wheel...
     
    ...who couldn't afford it himself in 1966.
  254. @Mr. XYZ
    @follyofwar

    By that logic, though, are Jews also in control of the Muslim world?

    Replies: @follyofwar

    Apparently you don’t know the history of this four thousand year old Jewish rite. Christ’s death on the cross started a new religion. This new religion, Christianity, did away with the requirement to circumcise. For nearly two millennia Christians did not circumcise their sons. The Church thought the practice was evil – a mutilation of the flesh.

    To make a long story short, and to simplify the issue, that all began to change in 20th Century America, as circumcision became nearly universal, with Jewish doctors being its primary proponents. Thankfully, the rate is now dropping.

    Muslims, OTOH, and for reasons I can’t explain, always practiced circumcision, and quite often on both sexes. So, you see, there is no comparison. I hope that answers your question.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @follyofwar

    '...Muslims, OTOH, and for reasons I can’t explain, always practiced circumcision...

    Sigh. Muslims practice male circumcision for the same reason they practice kosher slaughter; the religion began as a kind of purified Judaism; see Mohammed's references to the 'true Quran' as opposed to the corrupted text used by the Jews.

    I'd guess female circumcision originated as a pagan custom among some populations that subsequently converted to Islam. Most Muslims don't practice it.

  255. @prime noticer
    not being reported much, but haiti is on fire and on the verge of a civil war. what say the 'not a shithole' proclaimers to that? nothing, as usual. silence.

    has anybody been following this case of old serial killer samuel little? apparently this guy admits to murdering 93 people. his photographic memory of each murder, and his art ability, where he is sketching what they looked like right after he killed them, is leading detectives to solve cases going back into the 70s. this guys says he strangled women to death for 40 years across the entire US, in every state.

    this is a genuinely AMAZING story - and would be headline news everywhere. except samuel little is vibrant. so the case is getting almost zero coverage. HBD angle aside, this is a mind blowing case. probably, the most prolific serial killer in US history, and he remembers every detail.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    this is a genuinely AMAZING story – and would be headline news everywhere. except samuel little is vibrant. so the case is getting almost zero coverage.

    When it does get coverage, the spin is that racist White law enforcement is to blame for not caring about Black victims.

  256. @J.Ross
    @Reg Cæsar

    Public transportation is generally used by poor urban minorities. The people who would take up this mantle and most of their voter base have cars.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The point isn’t to improve public transportation, it’s to stir up a hornet’s nest. That’s why I suggested a “shrewd righty”.

  257. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    @Bill B.

    "Minnesota Nice"

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Mogadishu Nice.

  258. @Tyrion 2

    Omar’s snark set off a berserk reaction among politicians because nobody is allowed to mention that, on average, Jews give more money to politicians than do members of other ethnic groups. People just can’t go around noticing who the politicians’ biggest donors are.
     
    Can we have some appreciation for Trump - an only just billionaire - who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?

    Replies: @Abe, @Mike P., @Colin Wright

    ‘Can we have some appreciation for Trump – an only just billionaire – who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?’

    Zionists are tedious. The leading donor to Clinton’s campaign was a Zionist. Fourteen of the top twenty were Zionists. The leadig donor to Trump’s campaign was a Zionist.

    The Zionists bought both candidates — and you’re here to muddy the waters. Go away.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Colin Wright

    Yes, Trump is a famous Zionist (a nationalist) and was the biggest donor to his own campaign by far.

    Why do you only like nationalism when brown people do it?

    Replies: @J.Ross

  259. L Woods says:
    @Kratoklastes
    If you think Ilhan Omar is passably fetching (or remotely resembles the Orientalist fetish image in the post), check out the wife of one of Strayan media's pet Muzzies - her Twitter bio pic does her only reasonable justice; in person she's actually significantly more attractive and impressive.

    That should not matter a damn; being pretty has fuck-all to do with having anything sensible to say. Furthermore, subscribing to a set of stupid primitive fairy stories indicates cognitive shortcomings that would embarrass a dim 4-year-old.

    I've said it before: if a woman wants to be taken seriously, she ought to be handed a packet of wet wipes and told to wash every trace of coloured mud off her face. Then let her state her case again, and see if it gets the same accolades.

    Replies: @L Woods

    I’ve said it before: if a woman wants to be taken seriously, she ought to be handed a packet of wet wipes and told to wash every trace of coloured mud off her face. Then let her state her case again, and see if it gets the same accolades.

    Uhh…

    https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2019/02/12/first-female-viper-demo-team-pilot-relieved-after-two-weeks/

    White American women are the second most over applauded group in the world.

  260. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Anon7

    There is a Japanese restaurant in my area that has white geisha girls and Filipino chefs.

    Totally kills the vibe.

    Replies: @Joe Stalin

  261. @follyofwar
    @Mr. XYZ

    Apparently you don't know the history of this four thousand year old Jewish rite. Christ's death on the cross started a new religion. This new religion, Christianity, did away with the requirement to circumcise. For nearly two millennia Christians did not circumcise their sons. The Church thought the practice was evil - a mutilation of the flesh.

    To make a long story short, and to simplify the issue, that all began to change in 20th Century America, as circumcision became nearly universal, with Jewish doctors being its primary proponents. Thankfully, the rate is now dropping.

    Muslims, OTOH, and for reasons I can't explain, always practiced circumcision, and quite often on both sexes. So, you see, there is no comparison. I hope that answers your question.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘…Muslims, OTOH, and for reasons I can’t explain, always practiced circumcision…

    Sigh. Muslims practice male circumcision for the same reason they practice kosher slaughter; the religion began as a kind of purified Judaism; see Mohammed’s references to the ‘true Quran’ as opposed to the corrupted text used by the Jews.

    I’d guess female circumcision originated as a pagan custom among some populations that subsequently converted to Islam. Most Muslims don’t practice it.

  262. @Tony
    Ocosio Cortez just needs to shut up and get nude for a magazine spread.

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Ocosio Cortez just needs to shut up and get nude for a magazine spread.’

    That IS a thought. Always good to see someone thinking outside the box.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Colin Wright



    ‘Ocosio Cortez just needs to shut up and get nude for a magazine spread.’
     
    That IS a thought. Always good to see someone thinking outside the box.
     
    Penthouse, Hustler, and Screw never thought outside the box.
  263. Anonymous[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @Arclight
    I've been wondering about this for awhile - Democrats (as pointed out, with a major financial assist from Jewish donors) have been electing more and more people who don't actually like Jews, and certainly are not as enamored with Israel as the typical GOPer. At what point will we see a meaningful impact on donations?

    A friend of mine is a huge Israel booster and a pretty committed Democrat. But in conversation about politics, there are two issues where they diverge from the party that their family (who also has a lot of money) has supported for decades: Israel and the 2nd amendment. Their spouse (also Jewish) is a full on Trump supporter and NRA member incidentally, and doesn't really care about Israel. Made the mandatory visit as a 20 something and never wants to go back.

    Replies: @Lot, @Flip, @Anonymous

    This tension has been evident in street-level politics for decades. A lot of these little far-left/antifa/anti-racist activist groups are heavily dependent on Jewish donations–if they aren’t actually run by Jews. However many of the rank-and-file members of these groups, if they don’t actually hate Jews, do hate Israel with a passion. This means these groups are in a state of constant internal turmoil over the Israel/Palestine issue, especially when the violence over there hots up. Most of these outfits would simply implode without the Nazi boogyman to hold them together.

  264. @Northeast
    @ThreeCranes

    The seeds of cultural collapse are difficult to pinpoint. They are deposited unseen & early. The apex of Americal civic culture was the 1950s IMO. That did not mean that the rot was not lurking already....it always is.

    Can you imagine America 2019 calling upon its citizens nationwide to study science in its schools to engage in the space race with the Soviets like was asked by Ike & Kennedy? America is currently much more concerned with legalizing weed & casinos being dropped into every state.

    I suppose the libertarians think this is progress.

    Replies: @Corn, @Joe Stalin, @AndrewR

    Give the American young people an appropriate goal to aspire to: A US flag planted on Mars before 2030!

  265. This woman is pretty easy on the eyes. Maybe awe have another woman of colour other than Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez that Richard Spencer can gush about.

  266. @Dave Pinsen
    @Northeast

    This was from the early ‘70s.

    https://twitter.com/historyinmoment/status/1095296733867925504?s=21

    Replies: @Northeast, @George, @Daniel H, @Dieter Kief, @Stick, @AndrewR, @Sowhat, @Hail, @SunBakedSuburb, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @follyofwar, @Clyde, @Pericles, @Prester John, @Mr. Anon

    That was back when the future happened in California first.

    Actually, it still happens there first. But it sucks.

    • Agree: Colin Wright
  267. @AndrewR
    @Dave Pinsen

    Not sure whether your implied message is "this is what we've lost" or if it's "look how far back in time the rot goes."

    My personal interpretation of that photo is the latter. Those short-shorts-sporting thots would be old women already. Hindsight may be 20/20, but I think many wise people 50 years ago could have reasonably predicted how degenerate 2019 society would be based on the degeneracy already very apparent back then.

    Replies: @Clive Beaconsfield, @Mr. Anon

    Hindsight may be 20/20, but I think many wise people 50 years ago could have reasonably predicted how degenerate 2019 society would be based on the degeneracy already very apparent back then.

    I don’t think anybody predicted it then, or could have.

  268. The Emperor’s New Clout

    Anyone know of any good guides to clout computing and cloutsourcing? Better yet, cloutfunding?

  269. @Colin Wright
    @Tony

    'Ocosio Cortez just needs to shut up and get nude for a magazine spread.'

    That IS a thought. Always good to see someone thinking outside the box.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    ‘Ocosio Cortez just needs to shut up and get nude for a magazine spread.’

    That IS a thought. Always good to see someone thinking outside the box.

    Penthouse, Hustler, and Screw never thought outside the box.

  270. They’ll just wear hijabs and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.

    Haha, very funny, but really, that’s what the traditional business suit always accomplished for men: it was an equalizer. You could be flabby or fat (within reason) and you didn’t look too bad next to your muscular and svelte fellows.

    Now and then, as I watch the news, I’m struck by the contrast between the “dress codes” for the two sexes. The women wear clothes that don’t look good after 40, which probably ensures short careers.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @International Jew

    Every wedding I go to, like the bore I must be aging into, I drink a bit, feel mischievous and make the same joke to the lady folk assembled. "You all look wonderful today, your outfits are so well thought out, your bags, dresses, shoes and even hats are on point! They look like they must have cost a lot! I should go and design a (scratch out as necessary) morning suit/dinner jacket/basic lounge suit for ladies. Then you could all just wear the same thing to each event and not have to worry".

    The vast majority react very negatively to the idea. Maybe, it'll change by the time the sadly inevitable second weddings come around?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @International Jew


    The women wear clothes that don’t look good after 40, which probably ensures short careers.
     
    The way to look good at 40 is to dress like someone 60, and at 60, 80.
    , @Corn
    @International Jew

    “Now and then, as I watch the news, I’m struck by the contrast between the “dress codes” for the two sexes.”

    I think it’s odd how in some formal work/ceremonial settings men are expected to be covered neck to wrist. Collared shirt and tie, jacket, trousers etc. Yet you will often see women wearing if not miniskirts then skirts just above the knee, short sleeved blouses, sleeveless dresses or tops. They then cry “Sexism!” or “Repression!” if they’re told “No skirts above the knee” or “No spaghetti strap tops”.

    You want equality ladies, we’ll put ya’ll in pantsuits.

  271. @Mike P.
    @Tyrion 2

    Did Trump's money cause white Protestants to be overrepresented among political donors?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Considering the many white Protestants with a lot more money than him who don’t donate what is even chump change to them, I simply think Trump’s generosity and sense of patriotism should be lauded.

    For example, Jezz Bezos made more money on a number of single days last year than Trump’s entire election campaign cost.

    If donating political money buys you great influence, I guess Bezos hates influence. But if it is more often civic generosity, then what is wrong with the underepresented white Protestant billionaires? Actually, either way, what is wrong with them?

    Anyway, the real tragedy of Trump seems to be that he has had to attempt to do so much with relatively miniscule effective support. Those hardy few who have helped are clearly exceptional.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2


    Anyway, the real tragedy of Trump seems to be that he has had to attempt to do so much with relatively miniscule effective support. Those hardy few who have helped are clearly exceptional.
     
    What kind of support are you referring to? What are the names of the hardy few?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Tyrion 2


    If donating political money buys you great influence, I guess Bezos hates influence.
     
    Sure, he hates influence. That's why he bought the Washington Post - to NOT be influential. He has also contributed a lot of money to political campaigns.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/technology/jeff-bezos-amazon-political-donation-veterans.html

    "The couple are donating $10 million to the With Honor Fund, a so-called super PAC that supports military veterans running for Congress who vow to take a cross-party approach to governing. The group has endorsed 33 candidates running this year — 14 Republicans and 19 Democrats."

    i.e., he is an enthusiastic supporter of the uniparty state. He's also donated a lot to promote gay marriage.

    You're like unz.com's own private version of The Economist - consistently ill-informed. Why don't you stop opining about America, a country you clearly know nothing about.

    Nitwit.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  272. @Colin Wright
    @Tyrion 2

    'Can we have some appreciation for Trump – an only just billionaire – who, nevertheless, gave as much to his own campaign as the top 4 Democratic donors combined?'

    Zionists are tedious. The leading donor to Clinton's campaign was a Zionist. Fourteen of the top twenty were Zionists. The leadig donor to Trump's campaign was a Zionist.

    The Zionists bought both candidates -- and you're here to muddy the waters. Go away.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Yes, Trump is a famous Zionist (a nationalist) and was the biggest donor to his own campaign by far.

    Why do you only like nationalism when brown people do it?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Tyrion 2

    I'm not following this at all, is your point here that Jewish monetary influence means nothing because of Trump's sincerity? How are these ideas related?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Tyrion 2, @Mr. Anon

  273. @International Jew

    They’ll just wear hijabs and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.
     
    Haha, very funny, but really, that's what the traditional business suit always accomplished for men: it was an equalizer. You could be flabby or fat (within reason) and you didn't look too bad next to your muscular and svelte fellows.

    Now and then, as I watch the news, I'm struck by the contrast between the "dress codes" for the two sexes. The women wear clothes that don't look good after 40, which probably ensures short careers.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Reg Cæsar, @Corn

    Every wedding I go to, like the bore I must be aging into, I drink a bit, feel mischievous and make the same joke to the lady folk assembled. “You all look wonderful today, your outfits are so well thought out, your bags, dresses, shoes and even hats are on point! They look like they must have cost a lot! I should go and design a (scratch out as necessary) morning suit/dinner jacket/basic lounge suit for ladies. Then you could all just wear the same thing to each event and not have to worry”.

    The vast majority react very negatively to the idea. Maybe, it’ll change by the time the sadly inevitable second weddings come around?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2


    the sadly inevitable second weddings
     
    Do you really believe this?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  274. This is and was Whiskeys point.

    I dated a half Tunisian girl in college. We should ban Muslim men & let in their women….especislly the Salma Hayek looking ones…..whos plan was this again? I borrowed it from a poster here who was married to a Colombian woman…..who was it again?

  275. @Tyrion 2
    @Colin Wright

    Yes, Trump is a famous Zionist (a nationalist) and was the biggest donor to his own campaign by far.

    Why do you only like nationalism when brown people do it?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I’m not following this at all, is your point here that Jewish monetary influence means nothing because of Trump’s sincerity? How are these ideas related?

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @J.Ross

    'I’m not following this at all, is your point here that Jewish monetary influence means nothing because of Trump’s sincerity? How are these ideas related?'

    The ideas aren't related. He's just trying to bait me.

    , @Tyrion 2
    @J.Ross

    He said the "leading donor to the Trump campaign was a Zionist" but since that leading donor was Trump (many times over), I agreed - Trump is a consistent nationalist - though utterly isolated and therefore ineffective in government.

    My general point though is that with all this kvetching about Jews making large political donations a few contradictions arise.

    The first does so because the kvetching is based on it supposedly giving Jews great power and influence.

    A point which makes sense in isolation, but which falls down when, given the huge numbers of non-Jews who could easily donate a lot more than that, it means that you have to believe that non-Jewish hard-charging billionaires must hate power and influence. If they could buy it for a day's earnings, why don't they?

    As a counter you might ask then why do these Jews donate what they do - if it affords them little actual power? A simple answer might be that they feel a sense of civic duty, but I believe that is too kind to be the whole reason. Instead, it mostly allows them to preen and feel important and gain social recognition.

    Indeed, as they tend to be old and are the types who always seem to be kvetching themselves about golf clubs or whatever, such a prosaic explanation does fit. When you're seen palling around with the President, you've finally made it.

    From a UK perspective, this is all quite predictable. Traditionally politicians have handed out honours to big time political donors such as the MBE, CBE and OBE. They don't get you anything but it is a nice badge to have. I have known people who have obviously donated mostly for such a reason.

    Trump, a canny client manager, wasn't being stupid when he gave Mrs Shelly Adelson that US Presidential bauble. He was giving her exactly what her husband was paying for.

    "Give me enough medals and I'll win you any war” Napoleon Bonaparte.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Mr. Anon
    @J.Ross

    His point is "Don't notice these people over here (i.e., his tribe)........, notice something else unrelated over there." That's always his point. That's his only point.

  276. @Detective Club
    @Northeast

    Los Angeles was such a great place to live in 1967 that if you were a bookie in the lock-up, whose daughter happened to die while you were inside, the cops would be so kindly towards you that they would cover the expenses of your daughter's funeral.
    https://youtu.be/rDlcIRxqWlw
    Of course, LA was majority White back in 1967 (Joe Friday looks like he has some pow-wow blood --- he probably lied on his 1960 US Census form!).

    Replies: @duncsbaby

    “Webb was raised in the Roman Catholic faith of his mother, who was of Irish and Native American descent.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Webb#Early_life

  277. @International Jew

    They’ll just wear hijabs and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.
     
    Haha, very funny, but really, that's what the traditional business suit always accomplished for men: it was an equalizer. You could be flabby or fat (within reason) and you didn't look too bad next to your muscular and svelte fellows.

    Now and then, as I watch the news, I'm struck by the contrast between the "dress codes" for the two sexes. The women wear clothes that don't look good after 40, which probably ensures short careers.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Reg Cæsar, @Corn

    The women wear clothes that don’t look good after 40, which probably ensures short careers.

    The way to look good at 40 is to dress like someone 60, and at 60, 80.

  278. @Dr. X
    @Daniel H

    You don't see kids that young who can afford a new Mustang any more. Any time I see a new Mustang on the road it's got some gray-haired Boomer between the ages of 65 and 75 behind the wheel.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    You don’t see kids that young who can afford a new Mustang any more. Any time I see a new Mustang on the road it’s got some gray-haired Boomer between the ages of 65 and 75 behind the wheel…

    …who couldn’t afford it himself in 1966.

  279. @UrbaneFrancoOntarian
    @Tyrion 2

    Hell is Somalia?

    Nice and simple. Somalians are a hopelessly retarded people. While I may be somewhat racist, I can think of decent people from every race.... except somalians.

    Every single somalian is stupid, slow, thuggish, and generally dead weight on humanity that should be quarantined and left to starve in their native shithole. I can't speak lowly enough about them.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    I’ve never met any of these people. What makes them worse than the average African?

  280. @TheBoom

    many liberals Jews are only now beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.
     
    Steve, what evidence do you have to support this assertion? I see no evidence of it. From what I can tell, liberal American jews still feel that making whites a minority is job numero uno. Any criticism of immigration is still seen as white supremacy. Jews are not logical on immigration issues. Open borders for white countries is a religion for them.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    Correct, this is pure wishful thinking on Steve’s part. Much like his absurd idea that not counting Middle Eastern people as separate from white Europeans on the census will somehow help them assimilate.

  281. @Jimi
    I don't like the social expectation that a women heading into her late 30s and has a couple of kids needs to look "hot."

    Everyone should strive to not be fat but I don't think married women or men need should be expected to be toned with firm butts.

    Once you have kids entering puberty its time to let vanity go, lose the yoga pants and wear stylish clothes that hide your flaws.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I disagree. “Be Best”

  282. @J.Ross
    @Tyrion 2

    I'm not following this at all, is your point here that Jewish monetary influence means nothing because of Trump's sincerity? How are these ideas related?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Tyrion 2, @Mr. Anon

    ‘I’m not following this at all, is your point here that Jewish monetary influence means nothing because of Trump’s sincerity? How are these ideas related?’

    The ideas aren’t related. He’s just trying to bait me.

  283. @Anonymous

    mobilize a Coalition of the Margins comprising identity groups—such as blacks, transgenders, Muslims, and Jews—who don’t have much to unite them other than their resentment of old-fashioned Americans. …
     
    Poor word choice, Steve. "Resentment" implies that Whites have done something (wrong) that justifies resentment. It is like "grievance" in that way, albeit in a lesser degree.

    Learn from the Jews. They rarely use "grievances" or "resentment" to describe the motivations behind opposition toward, animosity toward, or criticism of them. Instead, it is "hate" or "anti-Semitism."

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Steve has it right. No need to imitate the duplicitous. For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy. Of course, that hate-envy is just as dangerous as the former.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Steve has it right. No need to imitate the duplicitous. For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy. Of course, that hate-envy is just as dangerous as the former.
     
    Then Steve doesn't have it right. Call it "envy," then, not "resentment" or "grievances."

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy.
     
    Derb once pointed out that American lefties never really hate their country, not enough to leave. But Brits... so many are living out their lives in places like Thailand, Morocco, or Ceylon. They really hate the homeland.

    That, and the underage sex. They can get that at home, too, but the crackdowns come too often.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  284. @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    They say that it is pointless trying to engage with someone on an intellectual level who is 20 IQ points lower. I feel that with you it is much more than that. Since I am an average type of guy and so probably 100, I guess you're about 50. Do you struggle to operate door handles?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon

    ‘They say that it is pointless trying to engage with someone on an intellectual level who is 20 IQ points lower. I feel that with you it is much more than that. Since I am an average type of guy and so probably 100, I guess you’re about 50. Do you struggle to operate door handles?’

    I take it Mr. Anon hit the mark.

  285. @Tyrion 2
    @istevefan

    It isn't the Jewish vote they are courting. They are trying to provoke examples of anti-Semitism; something 98% of people don't like. It has played out exactly this way in the UK, to hilarious effect.

    Watching a black Labour MP accuse the Labour party of institutional racism anti-Semitism has been cathartic. It'd be better if they were correctly identified as anti-native, but Jews always seem to be the Canary in the coalmine so hopefully it is a sign of greater things to come.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Thea

    They are trying to provoke examples of anti-Semitism; something 98% of people don’t like.

    Anti-Semitism isn’t popular, but counter-Semitism is on the rise again. 88% of people are at least subconsciously counter-Semitic.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    In your fevered dreams. Again, your enemies don't slur you as something because that something has popularity. They do it to make you a pariah by association.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  286. @Lot
    @Anonymous

    He caused Labour to lose most Jewish support, a lot of Jew-friendly elite support, and in general become divided and look bad.

    The UK has a lot of leftists, but only had Tory/New Labour governments the past 40 years.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @ATBOTL

    Totally false. Labour has had a resurgence under Corbyn. They increased their vote in the last election, against all predictions by the establishment media and are poised for a possible victory in the next election. Corbyn’s standing up to the Jewish lobby is tremendously popular.

    Lot and Tyrion2 are dishonest neocons who are here to pervert the discourse. They are like less buffoonish versions Whiskey(aka The Long Winded Neocon, as I dubbed him when he posted anonymously).

    Fundamentally, they are here to do hasbara for Jews and Israel. They are part of a larger reorientation of the neocon movement to target the alt-right for subversion now that boomer style cuckservatives are being eclipsed by the dissident right. They will feign sympathy for our goals at times to accomplish this.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @ATBOTL

    Yeah, because losing the third election in a row, this time worse than Gordon Brown lost in 2010 for which he was widely decried as totally useless, is success!

    https://i.imgur.com/fMpPc6K.jpg

    Has a political party in the UK ever won 4 elections in a row, because I bet the Conservatives do.

    Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ATBOTL

  287. @J.Ross
    @Tyrion 2

    I'm not following this at all, is your point here that Jewish monetary influence means nothing because of Trump's sincerity? How are these ideas related?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Tyrion 2, @Mr. Anon

    He said the “leading donor to the Trump campaign was a Zionist” but since that leading donor was Trump (many times over), I agreed – Trump is a consistent nationalist – though utterly isolated and therefore ineffective in government.

    My general point though is that with all this kvetching about Jews making large political donations a few contradictions arise.

    The first does so because the kvetching is based on it supposedly giving Jews great power and influence.

    A point which makes sense in isolation, but which falls down when, given the huge numbers of non-Jews who could easily donate a lot more than that, it means that you have to believe that non-Jewish hard-charging billionaires must hate power and influence. If they could buy it for a day’s earnings, why don’t they?

    As a counter you might ask then why do these Jews donate what they do – if it affords them little actual power? A simple answer might be that they feel a sense of civic duty, but I believe that is too kind to be the whole reason. Instead, it mostly allows them to preen and feel important and gain social recognition.

    Indeed, as they tend to be old and are the types who always seem to be kvetching themselves about golf clubs or whatever, such a prosaic explanation does fit. When you’re seen palling around with the President, you’ve finally made it.

    From a UK perspective, this is all quite predictable. Traditionally politicians have handed out honours to big time political donors such as the MBE, CBE and OBE. They don’t get you anything but it is a nice badge to have. I have known people who have obviously donated mostly for such a reason.

    Trump, a canny client manager, wasn’t being stupid when he gave Mrs Shelly Adelson that US Presidential bauble. He was giving her exactly what her husband was paying for.

    “Give me enough medals and I’ll win you any war” Napoleon Bonaparte.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Tyrion 2

    So you're depending on a one-for-one system of dosh and suction, which is preposterous.

  288. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2


    They are trying to provoke examples of anti-Semitism; something 98% of people don’t like.
     
    Anti-Semitism isn’t popular, but counter-Semitism is on the rise again. 88% of people are at least subconsciously counter-Semitic.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    In your fevered dreams. Again, your enemies don’t slur you as something because that something has popularity. They do it to make you a pariah by association.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2

    The old incantations are losing their power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26-VzfBZg1w

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  289. @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    In your fevered dreams. Again, your enemies don't slur you as something because that something has popularity. They do it to make you a pariah by association.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    The old incantations are losing their power.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You know, rather than living in denial, you should be flattered by my last comment. As if they're not trying to slur you by association with the idea then they're trying to slur the idea by association with you...

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  290. @Northeast
    @ThreeCranes

    The seeds of cultural collapse are difficult to pinpoint. They are deposited unseen & early. The apex of Americal civic culture was the 1950s IMO. That did not mean that the rot was not lurking already....it always is.

    Can you imagine America 2019 calling upon its citizens nationwide to study science in its schools to engage in the space race with the Soviets like was asked by Ike & Kennedy? America is currently much more concerned with legalizing weed & casinos being dropped into every state.

    I suppose the libertarians think this is progress.

    Replies: @Corn, @Joe Stalin, @AndrewR

    If you want to die, then fine, but don’t romanticize a phenomenon that was a direct result of living in an era in which a civilization-destroying nuclear war was much more likely than it is today.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @AndrewR


    If you want to die, then fine, but don’t romanticize a phenomenon that was a direct result of living in an era in which a civilization-destroying nuclear war was much more likely than it is today.
     
    More likely? Yes. Much more likely? I get less sure about that every day. Our ruling class seems ever more determined to get us involved in a war that could go nuclear and that we could lose.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  291. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2

    The old incantations are losing their power.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26-VzfBZg1w

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    You know, rather than living in denial, you should be flattered by my last comment. As if they’re not trying to slur you by association with the idea then they’re trying to slur the idea by association with you…

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2

    Yes, I know “anti-Semite” is a slur.

    Like I wrote, the old incantations are losing their power.

  292. @ATBOTL
    @Lot

    Totally false. Labour has had a resurgence under Corbyn. They increased their vote in the last election, against all predictions by the establishment media and are poised for a possible victory in the next election. Corbyn's standing up to the Jewish lobby is tremendously popular.

    Lot and Tyrion2 are dishonest neocons who are here to pervert the discourse. They are like less buffoonish versions Whiskey(aka The Long Winded Neocon, as I dubbed him when he posted anonymously).

    Fundamentally, they are here to do hasbara for Jews and Israel. They are part of a larger reorientation of the neocon movement to target the alt-right for subversion now that boomer style cuckservatives are being eclipsed by the dissident right. They will feign sympathy for our goals at times to accomplish this.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Yeah, because losing the third election in a row, this time worse than Gordon Brown lost in 2010 for which he was widely decried as totally useless, is success!

    Has a political party in the UK ever won 4 elections in a row, because I bet the Conservatives do.

    • Replies: @Menschmaschine
    @Tyrion 2

    A little bit dishonest, aren't we?

    Number of seats 2010:
    Conservatives: 306 Labour: 258 Liberal Democrats: 57

    2017:
    Conservatives: 317 Labour: 262 Liberal Democrats: 12

    So, Labour actually did slightly better in 2017 than in 2010 (And much better than predicted), the reason for the bigger gap to the Conservatives is simply that the Liberal Democrats lost so heavy!


    ever won 4 elections in a row, because I bet the Conservatives do.
     
    They need(ed) a coalition partner for 2 of them

    What makes Corbyn unelectable for many are his hard left economic doctrines; more recently, his insufficiently enthusiastic position in regard to stopping Brexit has hurt him among younger Labourites. But there isn't any evidence at all that the hysterical campaign against him because of his (rather tame) criticism of israeli crimes has hurt him in any way.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    , @ATBOTL
    @Tyrion 2

    You are leaving out the 2015 election, a deliberate attempt to deceive on your part.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election

    Corbyn increased Labour's MPs by 30 seats from 2015 and had a higher seat total than in 2010. Corbyn won over two million more votes than the Jewish Miliband in 2015 and over four million more votes than Brown in 2010. Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017 vs. 30.4% of the vote for Miliband in 2015. That's massive increase in two years. Corbyn is popular for standing up to bullying from the viciously anti-white Jewish lobby, something that drives you insane.

    I hope everyone here understands that Tyrion 2 is arguing bad faith. He has no concern for the truth, only for ethnic activism on behalf of his tribe.

    Replies: @Lot, @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2

  293. @follyofwar
    @Buzz Mohawk

    Indeed, I can think of nothing that more demonstrates Jewish control of the culture than the fact that most of us American gentiles have been circumcised.

    Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Anonymous

    Christian anti-masturbation obsessiveness was behind that.

  294. @Lot
    @J.Ross

    He won because Labour changed its rules without thinking it through. Used to be you had to volunteer X hours a year to the party and show up at meetings to vote. They changed it to just having to pay £6.

    It would be like a vote of registered Dems electing AOC speaker when 80% of actual congressmen oppose her.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Labour is a political organisation that happens to have representatives in parliament. The Conservatives are a parliamentary group that happens to have a political organisation.

  295. Yes, wait ’til they take over and we can get back to beating, stoning and beheading women who are too uppity.

  296. That reminds me, what became of that business with Rand Paul and Israel at the end of last year? Something to do with halting aid to Israel IIRC. There was a brief flurry of stories about it, then silence.

  297. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    This poster is useful because Trump can use it in his campaign, too.

    https://static.timesofisrael.com/www/uploads/2019/02/bibi-trump-poster-e1549179597571-1024x640.jpg

    Replies: @donut, @Corvinus, @IHTG

    It might be less useful after Bibi gets indicted!

  298. @donut
    @Another Canadian

    Thanks that was facinating , thanks to @Hereward too . So from scanning the entry I get the impression that one could go from Alabama or Florida to the NE US . I wonder if anyone has analyzed the extent of the trade , like they did in the old world . Any way thanks .

    Replies: @donut, @Another Canadian

    Donut, you may want to try a search on names of known Indian traders prior to the French and Indian War since there appears to be some extant documentation, probably for tax purposes. South Carolina appears to have a big list of licensed traders.

    https://nativeheritageproject.com/2014/04/09/south-carolina-indian-traders-1750-1754/

  299. @Tyrion 2
    @ATBOTL

    Yeah, because losing the third election in a row, this time worse than Gordon Brown lost in 2010 for which he was widely decried as totally useless, is success!

    https://i.imgur.com/fMpPc6K.jpg

    Has a political party in the UK ever won 4 elections in a row, because I bet the Conservatives do.

    Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ATBOTL

    A little bit dishonest, aren’t we?

    Number of seats 2010:
    Conservatives: 306 Labour: 258 Liberal Democrats: 57

    2017:
    Conservatives: 317 Labour: 262 Liberal Democrats: 12

    So, Labour actually did slightly better in 2017 than in 2010 (And much better than predicted), the reason for the bigger gap to the Conservatives is simply that the Liberal Democrats lost so heavy!

    ever won 4 elections in a row, because I bet the Conservatives do.

    They need(ed) a coalition partner for 2 of them

    What makes Corbyn unelectable for many are his hard left economic doctrines; more recently, his insufficiently enthusiastic position in regard to stopping Brexit has hurt him among younger Labourites. But there isn’t any evidence at all that the hysterical campaign against him because of his (rather tame) criticism of israeli crimes has hurt him in any way.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Menschmaschine

    Corbyn lost the white working class, amazing for Labour, because he clearly thinks they are in the way of his political programme. The Jew stuff just kept him distracted from criticising the government. Most people in Britain are confused when people start talking about Jew this and Jew that. It is a confusing turn off.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

  300. @Bill B.
    @Anon7

    Who thinks Omar is hot? There is actually something quite creepy about her.

    Her delivery is hilarious though, if disturbing:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4Mutu-P7_NA

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @George, @donut, @Anon7, @Federalist, @Ghost of Bull Moose, @Clyde, @Corn

    Dumb broad. She can’t even get his name right and she falters looking for words bit you can tell by the look on her face she thinks is dazzling the hearing.

  301. @International Jew

    They’ll just wear hijabs and concentrate on doing their makeup adroitly so they look exotic and hot.
     
    Haha, very funny, but really, that's what the traditional business suit always accomplished for men: it was an equalizer. You could be flabby or fat (within reason) and you didn't look too bad next to your muscular and svelte fellows.

    Now and then, as I watch the news, I'm struck by the contrast between the "dress codes" for the two sexes. The women wear clothes that don't look good after 40, which probably ensures short careers.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Reg Cæsar, @Corn

    “Now and then, as I watch the news, I’m struck by the contrast between the “dress codes” for the two sexes.”

    I think it’s odd how in some formal work/ceremonial settings men are expected to be covered neck to wrist. Collared shirt and tie, jacket, trousers etc. Yet you will often see women wearing if not miniskirts then skirts just above the knee, short sleeved blouses, sleeveless dresses or tops. They then cry “Sexism!” or “Repression!” if they’re told “No skirts above the knee” or “No spaghetti strap tops”.

    You want equality ladies, we’ll put ya’ll in pantsuits.

  302. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Hence, many liberals Jews are only now beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    liberal

    Replies: @Russ, @anon, @anon

    I have seen more Poles ,Romanians ,Lithuanians and Slovakians . They have uprooted local business, they have corrupted NY city. They have raked up huge profit at the cost of the citizen in construction business , in grabbing government contracts and overseeing public private services like road construction and sewerage disposal plumbing and long distance truck hauling . Compared to that see muslims driving cabs, imaging retail stores,working in computer or engineering or in medicine .
    There is reason British have been cheating anti Poles anti Eastern Europeans and not ant muslim mantras .

  303. anon[227] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    Hence, many liberals Jews are only now beginning to question their self-satisfied assumption that importing more Muslims would be good for the Jews.

    liberal

    Replies: @Russ, @anon, @anon

    I have seen more Poles ,Romanians ,Lithuanians and Slovakians . They have uprooted local business, they have corrupted NY city. They have raked up huge profit at the cost of the citizen in construction business , in grabbing government contracts and overseeing public private services like road construction and sewerage disposal plumbing and long distance truck hauling . Compared to that see muslims driving cabs, imaging retail stores,working in computer or engineering or in medicine .
    There is a reason British have been crying anti Poles anti Eastern Europeans and not ant muslim mantras .

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @anon

    Yeah, that reason is called "law." What prison will they be put in if they say they hate white people?

  304. @Tyrion 2
    @res

    99% of modern politics seems to be stating that the people you don't like are cheating on civilised norms and that this justifies cheating back.

    This ties into Rene Girard's theories of mimesis and competition. He argued that societies went through these spirals and only settled after sacrificing a scapegoat. Dramatic historical examples of scapegoats include the Armenians (Ottomans), the successful farmers (USSR), the educated people (Khmer Rouge) etc.

    Basically, the competing groups of "cheaters" would find a sub-group to lay all of the blame on, and then punish them.

    The surviving members of the sacrificed scapegoats would, in the aftermath, be rendered holy and this would continue through the next cycle because their death would have brought social peace.

    Being a Catholic, he saw the Christian telling of the scapegoating of Jesus, the son of God, as a way to end this cycle as its ritualisation, through the drinking of the blood, Easter and so on, would satisfy this need instead. It built on and improved on the core function of the Abraham and Isaac story.

    Of course, for this to be true, it was also necessary for him to, not unreasonably, hold that ritualisation and even "play" could serve to satisfy the weird needs arising out of human social interaction.

    I found his explanations pretty convincing but please be aware that I read his stuff a while ago and I will not have been able to do it justice. Also, I suspect this is why the tweeter added Mr Yudkowsky in the reply.

    Replies: @res, @Thea, @Tex

    Fascinating idea

  305. @Tyrion 2
    @istevefan

    It isn't the Jewish vote they are courting. They are trying to provoke examples of anti-Semitism; something 98% of people don't like. It has played out exactly this way in the UK, to hilarious effect.

    Watching a black Labour MP accuse the Labour party of institutional racism anti-Semitism has been cathartic. It'd be better if they were correctly identified as anti-native, but Jews always seem to be the Canary in the coalmine so hopefully it is a sign of greater things to come.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @Thea

    It is an appeal to the desire to be a hero or savior in gebtiles, a common human desire. In the same way Schindler ‘s list portrayed the title character ( despite historical realities) as a brave noble man that ordinary people could emulate. Stirring up ideas about riding anti-semitransparent is meant to appeal to them.

    One could see SJWs as arm chair schindlers bravely using twitter to fight the bad guys.

  306. @Tyrion 2
    @Mike P.

    Considering the many white Protestants with a lot more money than him who don't donate what is even chump change to them, I simply think Trump's generosity and sense of patriotism should be lauded.

    For example, Jezz Bezos made more money on a number of single days last year than Trump's entire election campaign cost.

    If donating political money buys you great influence, I guess Bezos hates influence. But if it is more often civic generosity, then what is wrong with the underepresented white Protestant billionaires? Actually, either way, what is wrong with them?

    Anyway, the real tragedy of Trump seems to be that he has had to attempt to do so much with relatively miniscule effective support. Those hardy few who have helped are clearly exceptional.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    Anyway, the real tragedy of Trump seems to be that he has had to attempt to do so much with relatively miniscule effective support. Those hardy few who have helped are clearly exceptional.

    What kind of support are you referring to? What are the names of the hardy few?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Anonymous

    Good question. I assume they exist. Evidence is sparse though. Stephen Miller?

    There are more and I am unfair but, yes, Trump is a tragic figure.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  307. @Tyrion 2
    @International Jew

    Every wedding I go to, like the bore I must be aging into, I drink a bit, feel mischievous and make the same joke to the lady folk assembled. "You all look wonderful today, your outfits are so well thought out, your bags, dresses, shoes and even hats are on point! They look like they must have cost a lot! I should go and design a (scratch out as necessary) morning suit/dinner jacket/basic lounge suit for ladies. Then you could all just wear the same thing to each event and not have to worry".

    The vast majority react very negatively to the idea. Maybe, it'll change by the time the sadly inevitable second weddings come around?

    Replies: @Anonymous

    the sadly inevitable second weddings

    Do you really believe this?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Anonymous

    Statistics tell me it is likely. I don't believe it for myself, naturally. I also don't see it for any other particular people, but stats are stats. There is the confounding factors of class, but it isn't that confounding.

    At least, I hear, the second round of stag parties are a lot more louche. These have been tame enough even for my wife to mock them. (She is clearly a keeper and I don't believe in divorce.)

    Replies: @Anonymous

  308. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous

    Steve has it right. No need to imitate the duplicitous. For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy. Of course, that hate-envy is just as dangerous as the former.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    Steve has it right. No need to imitate the duplicitous. For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy. Of course, that hate-envy is just as dangerous as the former.

    Then Steve doesn’t have it right. Call it “envy,” then, not “resentment” or “grievances.”

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous

    It’s all of the above, really. I propose: Grievenvyhatesentment.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  309. @Tyrion 2
    @ATBOTL

    Yeah, because losing the third election in a row, this time worse than Gordon Brown lost in 2010 for which he was widely decried as totally useless, is success!

    https://i.imgur.com/fMpPc6K.jpg

    Has a political party in the UK ever won 4 elections in a row, because I bet the Conservatives do.

    Replies: @Menschmaschine, @ATBOTL

    You are leaving out the 2015 election, a deliberate attempt to deceive on your part.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election

    Corbyn increased Labour’s MPs by 30 seats from 2015 and had a higher seat total than in 2010. Corbyn won over two million more votes than the Jewish Miliband in 2015 and over four million more votes than Brown in 2010. Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017 vs. 30.4% of the vote for Miliband in 2015. That’s massive increase in two years. Corbyn is popular for standing up to bullying from the viciously anti-white Jewish lobby, something that drives you insane.

    I hope everyone here understands that Tyrion 2 is arguing bad faith. He has no concern for the truth, only for ethnic activism on behalf of his tribe.

    • Replies: @Lot
    @ATBOTL

    Wah wah wah, Labour keeps on losing. You want to debate by how much.

    Islamo-socialism just isn't popular in the UK.

    , @Anonymous
    @ATBOTL


    I hope everyone here understands that Tyrion 2 is arguing bad faith. He has no concern for the truth, only for ethnic activism on behalf of his tribe.
     
    He has some excellent insights and statements. As to certain areas where he has conflicting interests, he may not even be aware of his biases.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    , @Tyrion 2
    @ATBOTL

    So...as I said, Labour lost by a bigger margin than did Gordon Brown in their "disastrous" 2010 campaign. Also, it was despite conditions being far more favourable for them.

    As for your argument that Corbyn is popular for standing up to some sort of anti-white Jewish lobby, you're clearly insane. Corbyn is an open borders kind of guy and most people don't spend 10 seconds a year thinking about Jews.

    Corbyn's hand-picked ministerial team include the lady who mouthed off at a British chef for daring to cook Jamaican food - ...ffs, even when Mirpur sends its best, it doesn't help!

    I mean, his second closest political ally isrven recorded on Wikipedia as an obvious anti-white race hustler. This is the person he'd put in government! (oh but he doesn't like Jews much so he must be fine ..wtf)

    In 1996, Abbott was criticised after she claimed that at her local hospital "blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls" were unsuitable as nurses because they had "never met a black person before".[87] In response Marc Wadsworth, executive member of the Anti-Racist Alliance, who is half-Finnish, pointed out that the then-current Miss Finland, Lola Odusoga, is black, of Nigerian and Finnish descent. "She's a black Finn like me," he said. Abbott's position was supported by fellow Labour MP Bernie Grant: "Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don't know black people—they probably don't know how to take their temperature".[88][89]

    In 2010, in defending her decision to send her son to a private school, she asserted that “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children.”, prompting criticism about this perceived slight on white mothers.[90]

    On 4 January 2012, Abbott tweeted that: "White people love playing 'divide and rule' We should not play their game", which again led to widespread criticism including accusations of racism.[91] Abbott later apologised for "any offence caused", claiming that she had not intended to "make generalisations about white people". Abbott also stated in an interview with Andrew Neil that her tweet referred to the history of the British Empire.[92][93][94] The Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg called her comments a "stupid and crass generalisation". Nadhim Zahawi, Conservative MP, said: "This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked."[95] Members of the public lodged complaints but the Metropolitan Police stated that no investigation would be launched and no charges would be brought against her, saying she "did not commit a criminal offence."[96]

    IRA

  310. @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    They say that it is pointless trying to engage with someone on an intellectual level who is 20 IQ points lower. I feel that with you it is much more than that. Since I am an average type of guy and so probably 100, I guess you're about 50. Do you struggle to operate door handles?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Mr. Anon

    Don’t sell yourself short (er, I mean, well………….) – you are quite clearly below average.

    • LOL: Tyrion 2
  311. @Tyrion 2
    @Mike P.

    Considering the many white Protestants with a lot more money than him who don't donate what is even chump change to them, I simply think Trump's generosity and sense of patriotism should be lauded.

    For example, Jezz Bezos made more money on a number of single days last year than Trump's entire election campaign cost.

    If donating political money buys you great influence, I guess Bezos hates influence. But if it is more often civic generosity, then what is wrong with the underepresented white Protestant billionaires? Actually, either way, what is wrong with them?

    Anyway, the real tragedy of Trump seems to be that he has had to attempt to do so much with relatively miniscule effective support. Those hardy few who have helped are clearly exceptional.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    If donating political money buys you great influence, I guess Bezos hates influence.

    Sure, he hates influence. That’s why he bought the Washington Post – to NOT be influential. He has also contributed a lot of money to political campaigns.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/technology/jeff-bezos-amazon-political-donation-veterans.html

    “The couple are donating $10 million to the With Honor Fund, a so-called super PAC that supports military veterans running for Congress who vow to take a cross-party approach to governing. The group has endorsed 33 candidates running this year — 14 Republicans and 19 Democrats.”

    i.e., he is an enthusiastic supporter of the uniparty state. He’s also donated a lot to promote gay marriage.

    You’re like unz.com’s own private version of The Economist – consistently ill-informed. Why don’t you stop opining about America, a country you clearly know nothing about.

    Nitwit.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    It seems you're too thick to even realise when you're adding evidence to my post.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  312. @J.Ross
    @Tyrion 2

    I'm not following this at all, is your point here that Jewish monetary influence means nothing because of Trump's sincerity? How are these ideas related?

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Tyrion 2, @Mr. Anon

    His point is “Don’t notice these people over here (i.e., his tribe)…….., notice something else unrelated over there.” That’s always his point. That’s his only point.

  313. @Tyrion 2
    @res

    99% of modern politics seems to be stating that the people you don't like are cheating on civilised norms and that this justifies cheating back.

    This ties into Rene Girard's theories of mimesis and competition. He argued that societies went through these spirals and only settled after sacrificing a scapegoat. Dramatic historical examples of scapegoats include the Armenians (Ottomans), the successful farmers (USSR), the educated people (Khmer Rouge) etc.

    Basically, the competing groups of "cheaters" would find a sub-group to lay all of the blame on, and then punish them.

    The surviving members of the sacrificed scapegoats would, in the aftermath, be rendered holy and this would continue through the next cycle because their death would have brought social peace.

    Being a Catholic, he saw the Christian telling of the scapegoating of Jesus, the son of God, as a way to end this cycle as its ritualisation, through the drinking of the blood, Easter and so on, would satisfy this need instead. It built on and improved on the core function of the Abraham and Isaac story.

    Of course, for this to be true, it was also necessary for him to, not unreasonably, hold that ritualisation and even "play" could serve to satisfy the weird needs arising out of human social interaction.

    I found his explanations pretty convincing but please be aware that I read his stuff a while ago and I will not have been able to do it justice. Also, I suspect this is why the tweeter added Mr Yudkowsky in the reply.

    Replies: @res, @Thea, @Tex

    The surviving members of the sacrificed scapegoats would, in the aftermath, be rendered holy and this would continue through the next cycle because their death would have brought social peace.

    Armenians are treated with reverence in Turkey these days?

    I guess Indians (feather not dot) get rather exaggerated respect in the USA, but we’re not Turks. I think Jews have it way better than Injuns in the US and the worst that happened to Jews in America was that they had to earn their livings. We’re a lot more likely to bomb Damascus, Syria than Custer, SD.

    This whole “survivors become holy” thing seems a little too hit-or-miss to support Mr. Girard’s assertions.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Tex

    The Armenians were almost all killed. Just 50,000 remain and Turkey denies killing them - which I suppose is another way to deal with a former scapegoat, nonetheless:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkish_Armenians

    It seems they are doing pretty well. I don't know enough about Turkey to say if a mythos surrounds them.


    I guess Indians (feather not dot) get rather exaggerated respect in the USA, but we’re not Turks. I think Jews have it way better than Injuns in the US and the worst that happened to Jews in America was that they had to earn their livings. We’re a lot more likely to bomb Damascus, Syria than Custer, SD.
     
    If we take WWII the culmination of a civil war across the Western World, and the true war to end all such wars, then Jews, as the sacrificed people whose blood ended that conflict*, are endowed with a certain holiness, until the next cycle at least.

    *Obviously it was the brave soldiers' blood who actually ended the war, but it might be said that it was the discovery of the Holocaust that caused that particular social conflict to never spark back into life, as it had before.

    As for the next cycle of increasing mimesis and social competition, its culmination feels close, at which point, the two conflicting sides will find another scapegoat. Or not, as perhaps modern media-based entertainment sufficiently ritualises the whole process in the way that Girard held the Catholic Church did. People are always complaining of the passivity induced from video games (no lack of blood in those), and superhero movies (some of whose characters are Christ-like archetypes).

    Still a feeling of social conflict does seem to be increasing and accelerating as it does...the sides might best be described as nationalists and globalists or traditionalists and progressives, this time.

    The blackpill is that no one wins such a conflict. Something new is born in its place instead. The Athenian liberal commercial imperial powers fell in the two "world wars" (one long war) just as surely as the Spartan authoritarian militaristic ones did.

    Replies: @Tex

  314. @Clyde
    @Bill B.

    Elliot Abrams should have said, "Very cute. Now when exactly did you get off the banana boat?"

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Elliot Abrams should have said, “Very cute. Now when exactly did you get off the banana boat?”

    One might ask Abrams the same thing.

    And, by the way, f**k Elliot Abrams:

    https://www.nationalaffairs.com/public_interest/detail/immigration-policy-who-gets-in-and-why

  315. @Lot
    @Tyrion 2

    It is mostly symbolic and supportive of local laws.

    Between watering it down to get passed and the First Amendment, it is the strongest we cam expect. And Pelosi isn't going to let it come up for a vote in the House.

    The GOP is united behind Israel. Dems are now about 55/45 split in favor. They saw what happened to Corbyn and Labour and want no part of it. Though of course it is inevitable.

    Replies: @istevefan, @Anonymous, @Mr. Anon

    Between watering it down to get passed and the First Amendment, it is the strongest we cam expect.

    Pretty clear who you mean by “we”. The rest of us – who don’t belong to your tribe – have zero interest in supporting laws that suppress our civil liberties. Civil liberties you seem quite happy to s**t all over.

  316. @AndrewR
    @Northeast

    If you want to die, then fine, but don't romanticize a phenomenon that was a direct result of living in an era in which a civilization-destroying nuclear war was much more likely than it is today.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    If you want to die, then fine, but don’t romanticize a phenomenon that was a direct result of living in an era in which a civilization-destroying nuclear war was much more likely than it is today.

    More likely? Yes. Much more likely? I get less sure about that every day. Our ruling class seems ever more determined to get us involved in a war that could go nuclear and that we could lose.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Mr. Anon


    Our ruling class seems ever more determined to get us involved in a war that could go nuclear and that we could lose.
     
    Only one political faction in the world has ever descended to employing nuclear weapons.

    Unfortunately, they're in control of the House of Representatives. But the button is a mile away.Thank God for that!

  317. Calvin Hobbes [AKA "Calvin X Hobbes"] says:

    Bat poop crazy news of the day:

    When an Alumnus With a Mike Says Something Offensive

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/02/14/speaker-cornell-alumni-event-offends-audience-and-college-quickly-responds#disqus_thread

    During a dinner event at the Cornell Alumni Leadership Conference in Boston last Friday, Paul Blanchard, an active alumnus from the Class of 1952 and loyal booster of Cornell athletics, was given an award for being an “outstanding class leader.” During his acceptance speech, Blanchard said that Satchel Paige was one of his heroes and referred to the famed baseball pitcher as a “Negro” and added, “Now they call them blacks.”

    Heads turned and mouths dropped, said John Rawlins III, president of the Cornell Black Alumni Association. “It was kind of shocking.”

    Rawlins was not at the event, which was first reported by The Cornell Daily Sun, but he was getting a stream of phone and text-message updates throughout the evening from association members who were at the dinner. He said several black alumni in the room told him they exchanged knowing glances, as if to say, “Did you hear that? Did he really just say what we think he said?”

    It was a cringe-worthy moment that turned a “usually lighthearted conference” into something else.

    “There was disappointment, sadness, anger or all of the above depending on who you ask,” Rawlins said. “The notion that this would be voiced over the microphone was shocking.”

    Wilma Ann Anderson, the black alumni association’s vice president for student relations, was among those at the award dinner who were very disappointed by the comments.

    “It was one of those moments when I wondered, is this one of those bubbles that will float up in the air and pop far away, or will it pop right here and have to be dealt with in a swift manner,” she said. “Sometimes bubbles flow away and we don’t catch them. That one did not float away, and I was gratified not only for myself but for others in the room who were impacted by the statement.”

    Anderson said she didn’t recall ever hearing the word “Negro” until she was an adult.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Calvin Hobbes


    Paul Blanchard, an active alumnus from the Class of 1952
     
    Whoa... for a second there, I thought you meant this guy, who'd be 127 this year:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Blanshard

    He and his twin Brand caused all kinds of trouble back in the day. Paul edited The Nation.


    These sentences from Wikipedia might blow your mind:


    Realizing their need for good education, the family relocated to Detroit in 1908 so the boys could graduate from the well-known Central High School. Soon both were at the top of their class, joined the debating team, and Brand was made class Poet. In 1910 the Blanshard brothers entered the University of Michigan, whose annual tuition was only $30 for state residents.
  318. @Mr. Anon
    @Hail


    Various datapoints, viewed from the distance of nearly fifty years now, seem to align and suggest the early 1970s as Peak USA.
     
    I agree. I would place the peak in the years 1969 to 1976 - the Moon landing to the Bicentennial. There was a lot of good feeling in the country surrounding the bicentennial; the country was at peace and reasonably happy with itself. The 80s weren't bad, and even the 90s weren't so bad, although the rot was setting in. By the time of Bush the Younger (Lesser, Dumber, etc.), it became plain that the wheels were coming off.

    Replies: @Flip, @Reg Cæsar, @Desiderius, @Lagertha

    While on a sailboat, in the NYC harbor, I would suggest 1976-1986 (before Reagan started to have cognitive impairment) as peak time.
    https://binged.it/2SP80re

    https://binged.it/2N3s2sH

  319. @Reg Cæsar
    @Tyrion 2

    Swastikas are so gay.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    let’s not get started on the uniforms!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Lagertha


    let’s not get started on the uniforms!
     
    Your compatriot sure did:


    http://pipa.chez.com/tom6.jpg

    http://www.starobserver.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Stampbanner.jpg

    Replies: @Lagertha

  320. @Corvinus
    @Charles Pewitt

    "Look at ISRAEL FIRST Jew Ham Saban and ISRAEL FIRST Harpy Hillary Clinton"

    Perhaps you neglected to NOTICE, but check out Comment 182. Clearly, Trump is about ISRAEL FIRST.

    Furthermore, a good deal of evangelicals voted for Trump--despite his own repeated immoral conduct that supposedly they abhor.

    So, how is your campaign for running for political office coming?

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    So, how is your campaign for running for political office coming?

    I have made preliminary plans to form an exploratory committee to mull over whether or not I should challenge Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary. My lawyers and advisors tell me to phrase it like that to avoid any irritating interference from the nitpicking scolds at the FEC.

    Thank you for your interest in my campaign!

    Trumpy is a lousy debater. I would love to debate Trumpy on his support for nation-wrecking mass legal immigration. Trumpy might drop out of the campaign like LBJ after I got through with him.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Charles Pewitt


    Trumpy might drop out of the campaign like LBJ after I got through with him.
     
    As long as you don't make him drop trou, like LBJ.

    Johnson lived to dominate, and he used crass behavior to bend people to his will. At 6-ft., 3-in. tall and 210 lbs., he liked to lean over people, spitting, swearing, belching, or laughing in their faces. Once, he even relieved himself on a Secret Serviceman who was shielding him from public view. When the man looked horrified, Johnson simply said, "That's all right, son. It's my prerogative." His favorite power ploy, however, seemed to be dragging people into the bathroom with him—forcing them to continue their conversations with the president as he used the toilet.

    http://mentalfloss.com/article/18463/lbj-president-who-marked-his-territory
     

    Okay, I think I've turned enough stomachs with the four comments above...
    , @Corvinus
    @Charles Pewitt

    "I have made preliminary plans to form an exploratory committee to mull over whether or not I should challenge Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary. My lawyers and advisors tell me to phrase it like that to avoid any irritating interference from the nitpicking scolds at the FEC."

    So you're Sugar Daddy is floating you the cash, huh? Well, to actually legitimize your run for the presidency, you really need to prove it. Link an online video of yourself declaring your intentions. That way, we will know for certain whether or not you are trolling us, per usual. That is generally your m.o.

  321. @AnotherDad
    @Anonymous


    But the fact that the vast multitude of dirt-poor paupers which The Economist desperately seeks to import will *inevitably* lead to permanent Marxist confiscatory government, seems strangely to elude those Capitalists’ professional brownnosers.
     
    Libertarians as well. These open border libertarians are not really libertarian but actually promoting some sort of socialism where a shared asset of people in nice nations is redistributed to whomever can grab it.

    But beyond that these phony "libertarians" are simply incapable of grasping that any level of libertarianism depends precisely on having people who actually value that and see it as "fair". That's basically only going to be in nations with Anglo-Saxon traditions and where enough of the populace is on board with those traditions to maintain them.

    Replies: @Lagertha

    That’s basically only going to be in nations with Anglo-Saxon traditions and where enough of the populace is on board with those traditions to maintain them.

    Exactly: You may like this as well as many others, here; it is long, but at least, my comments aren’t.

  322. @ Hail
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-emperors-new-clout/#comment-3039737

    When a trope is only a canard, or is it the other way around?

    Only time will tell.

    bored identity still vividly remembers how all of the girls in his class fought over George’s or Andrew’s Scoville-Whamming! scale of supremacy.

    bored identity equally well remembers how his unimpressed father was trudgedly trying to convince his MTVthusiastic progeny about the reality of existence of, at that time still closeted, blind corners of the Club Tropecanard , “where strangers take you by the hand, and welcome you to wonderland – from beneath their panamas…”

    Jitterbug, indeed.

  323. @ATBOTL
    @Tyrion 2

    You are leaving out the 2015 election, a deliberate attempt to deceive on your part.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election

    Corbyn increased Labour's MPs by 30 seats from 2015 and had a higher seat total than in 2010. Corbyn won over two million more votes than the Jewish Miliband in 2015 and over four million more votes than Brown in 2010. Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017 vs. 30.4% of the vote for Miliband in 2015. That's massive increase in two years. Corbyn is popular for standing up to bullying from the viciously anti-white Jewish lobby, something that drives you insane.

    I hope everyone here understands that Tyrion 2 is arguing bad faith. He has no concern for the truth, only for ethnic activism on behalf of his tribe.

    Replies: @Lot, @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2

    Wah wah wah, Labour keeps on losing. You want to debate by how much.

    Islamo-socialism just isn’t popular in the UK.

  324. Anonymous[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @ATBOTL
    @Tyrion 2

    You are leaving out the 2015 election, a deliberate attempt to deceive on your part.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election

    Corbyn increased Labour's MPs by 30 seats from 2015 and had a higher seat total than in 2010. Corbyn won over two million more votes than the Jewish Miliband in 2015 and over four million more votes than Brown in 2010. Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017 vs. 30.4% of the vote for Miliband in 2015. That's massive increase in two years. Corbyn is popular for standing up to bullying from the viciously anti-white Jewish lobby, something that drives you insane.

    I hope everyone here understands that Tyrion 2 is arguing bad faith. He has no concern for the truth, only for ethnic activism on behalf of his tribe.

    Replies: @Lot, @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2

    I hope everyone here understands that Tyrion 2 is arguing bad faith. He has no concern for the truth, only for ethnic activism on behalf of his tribe.

    He has some excellent insights and statements. As to certain areas where he has conflicting interests, he may not even be aware of his biases.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Anonymous

    I haven't noticed any insights, excellent or otherwise. Only the biases that you mentioned and the bad-faith that ATBOTL pointed out.

  325. @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You know, rather than living in denial, you should be flattered by my last comment. As if they're not trying to slur you by association with the idea then they're trying to slur the idea by association with you...

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Yes, I know “anti-Semite” is a slur.

    Like I wrote, the old incantations are losing their power.

  326. @ATBOTL
    @Tyrion 2

    You are leaving out the 2015 election, a deliberate attempt to deceive on your part.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_United_Kingdom_general_election

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2017_United_Kingdom_general_election

    Corbyn increased Labour's MPs by 30 seats from 2015 and had a higher seat total than in 2010. Corbyn won over two million more votes than the Jewish Miliband in 2015 and over four million more votes than Brown in 2010. Corbyn got 40% of the vote in 2017 vs. 30.4% of the vote for Miliband in 2015. That's massive increase in two years. Corbyn is popular for standing up to bullying from the viciously anti-white Jewish lobby, something that drives you insane.

    I hope everyone here understands that Tyrion 2 is arguing bad faith. He has no concern for the truth, only for ethnic activism on behalf of his tribe.

    Replies: @Lot, @Anonymous, @Tyrion 2

    So…as I said, Labour lost by a bigger margin than did Gordon Brown in their “disastrous” 2010 campaign. Also, it was despite conditions being far more favourable for them.

    As for your argument that Corbyn is popular for standing up to some sort of anti-white Jewish lobby, you’re clearly insane. Corbyn is an open borders kind of guy and most people don’t spend 10 seconds a year thinking about Jews.

    Corbyn’s hand-picked ministerial team include the lady who mouthed off at a British chef for daring to cook Jamaican food – …ffs, even when Mirpur sends its best, it doesn’t help!

    I mean, his second closest political ally isrven recorded on Wikipedia as an obvious anti-white race hustler. This is the person he’d put in government! (oh but he doesn’t like Jews much so he must be fine ..wtf)

    In 1996, Abbott was criticised after she claimed that at her local hospital “blonde, blue-eyed Finnish girls” were unsuitable as nurses because they had “never met a black person before”.[87] In response Marc Wadsworth, executive member of the Anti-Racist Alliance, who is half-Finnish, pointed out that the then-current Miss Finland, Lola Odusoga, is black, of Nigerian and Finnish descent. “She’s a black Finn like me,” he said. Abbott’s position was supported by fellow Labour MP Bernie Grant: “Bringing someone here from Finland who has never seen a black person before and expecting them to have some empathy with black people is nonsense. Scandinavian people don’t know black people—they probably don’t know how to take their temperature”.[88][89]

    In 2010, in defending her decision to send her son to a private school, she asserted that “West Indian mums will go to the wall for their children.”, prompting criticism about this perceived slight on white mothers.[90]

    On 4 January 2012, Abbott tweeted that: “White people love playing ‘divide and rule’ We should not play their game”, which again led to widespread criticism including accusations of racism.[91] Abbott later apologised for “any offence caused”, claiming that she had not intended to “make generalisations about white people”. Abbott also stated in an interview with Andrew Neil that her tweet referred to the history of the British Empire.[92][93][94] The Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg called her comments a “stupid and crass generalisation”. Nadhim Zahawi, Conservative MP, said: “This is racism. If this was a white member of Parliament saying that all black people want to do bad things to us he would have resigned within the hour or been sacked.”[95] Members of the public lodged complaints but the Metropolitan Police stated that no investigation would be launched and no charges would be brought against her, saying she “did not commit a criminal offence.”[96]

    IRA

  327. @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Steve has it right. No need to imitate the duplicitous. For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy. Of course, that hate-envy is just as dangerous as the former.
     
    Then Steve doesn't have it right. Call it "envy," then, not "resentment" or "grievances."

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    It’s all of the above, really. I propose: Grievenvyhatesentment.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Grievance and, to a lesser extent, resentment imply possible culpability of the target in a way that "hate" and "envy" and "anti-Semitism" do not. Learn from the Jews--they are the best in the business.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  328. @Menschmaschine
    @Tyrion 2

    A little bit dishonest, aren't we?

    Number of seats 2010:
    Conservatives: 306 Labour: 258 Liberal Democrats: 57

    2017:
    Conservatives: 317 Labour: 262 Liberal Democrats: 12

    So, Labour actually did slightly better in 2017 than in 2010 (And much better than predicted), the reason for the bigger gap to the Conservatives is simply that the Liberal Democrats lost so heavy!


    ever won 4 elections in a row, because I bet the Conservatives do.
     
    They need(ed) a coalition partner for 2 of them

    What makes Corbyn unelectable for many are his hard left economic doctrines; more recently, his insufficiently enthusiastic position in regard to stopping Brexit has hurt him among younger Labourites. But there isn't any evidence at all that the hysterical campaign against him because of his (rather tame) criticism of israeli crimes has hurt him in any way.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Corbyn lost the white working class, amazing for Labour, because he clearly thinks they are in the way of his political programme. The Jew stuff just kept him distracted from criticising the government. Most people in Britain are confused when people start talking about Jew this and Jew that. It is a confusing turn off.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
    @Tyrion 2

    Corbyn never said a thing about "Jew this and Jew that," you liar.

    The Jewish Lobby attacked Corbyn and he showed incredible restraint in defending himself from absurd lies.

    Tyrion2 is such a flagrant liar.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  329. @Lagertha
    @Reg Cæsar

    let's not get started on the uniforms!

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    let’s not get started on the uniforms!

    Your compatriot sure did:

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Reg Cæsar

    Saw his show in Hki, a few summers ago. I have ToF dish towels!

    It's funny how American Progressives disregard Tom's obvious fascination with Nazi uniforms and the ideal of the male physique. Of course, he did draw male POC, but his faves were always CA beach bums (Venice) once he moved to murica.

    Even Finnish straight men thought Tom was so outrageous that people became fond of him: Finnish guy in the early 2000's said to me, "any one who becomes famous in LA who is Finnish is good for us," - Armenians are now crazy about Kim Kardashian (she visited) in the same way. Kinda' a fetish of obscure countries. https://youtu.be/Vc0gYbTNctU

  330. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous

    It’s all of the above, really. I propose: Grievenvyhatesentment.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Grievance and, to a lesser extent, resentment imply possible culpability of the target in a way that “hate” and “envy” and “anti-Semitism” do not. Learn from the Jews–they are the best in the business.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous


    Grievance and, to a lesser extent, resentment imply possible culpability of the target in a way that “hate” and “envy” and “anti-Semitism” do not.
     
    Grievance and resentment are good terms because they also automatically imply, by definition, imagined wrongs or unfair treatment. They speak to probable delusion, projection, or envy as a motivator, not only mere unexplained “hate.” Plus they mock groups who like to describe themselves as psychologically “fierce” and “strong” collectively and as individuals. One can’t be those things and also be consumed by grievance and resentment.

    It’s like the word pious—it means either “devoutly religious,” or more likely in modern usage—“making a hypocritical display of virtue.” Would you complain about Steve mocking some SJW’s “piety”?

    “Hate” can be the right word given the specific case, but one problem with the word “hate” in general is that it’s mockably melodramatically overused by the usual suspect drama queens (e.g. “Hate Has No Home Here” lawn signs or the ADL’s “No Place For Hate” slogan). The right shouldn’t associate itself with that kind of pious voguing and Orwellian haranguing.

    Contempt is the best attitude for the right towards intransigent enemies—amused contempt if holding power, ruthless contempt if in the fight.

    As for the term “anti-Semitism,” see my responses to Tyrion 2 in this thread.

    Learn from the Jews–they are the best in the business.
     
    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses. If you’re currently in the market, I advise you to sell.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Anonymous

  331. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous

    Steve has it right. No need to imitate the duplicitous. For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy. Of course, that hate-envy is just as dangerous as the former.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Reg Cæsar

    For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy.

    Derb once pointed out that American lefties never really hate their country, not enough to leave. But Brits… so many are living out their lives in places like Thailand, Morocco, or Ceylon. They really hate the homeland.

    That, and the underage sex. They can get that at home, too, but the crackdowns come too often.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Derb once pointed out that American lefties never really hate their country, not enough to leave. But Brits… so many are living out their lives in places like Thailand, Morocco, or Ceylon. They really hate the homeland.

    That, and the underage sex. They can get that at home, too, but the crackdowns come too often.
     
    Never confuse hatred with resentment.

    The Left resents Core America. If they really hated it, they would emigrate, but they know that would be expensive. If Jewish, or willing to go through orthodox conversion, they could go to Israel. If they have job skills they could go to Canada, which is cold in the winter, or maybe Brazil or Argentina, or parts of Europe. Their standard of living would be less, they'd have to learn a new language, and the locals wouldn't put up with their shit. So they stay, and resent.

    Their resentment comes out in personal nastiness and in destructive political activity, and occasionally, if given the opportunity, in treason.

    People who genuinely hate a place tend to just leave it. They want nothing to do with it and they will pay the personal price to do so.

    I knew a woman who was a 1960s Cold War bride from Germany. She married an Army tank officer. She loved her husband but quietly hated America, because of what she saw as its lack of organization and structure, bad driving, lack of rigor in the schools, etc. When her husband died, the day after the funeral she sold the house and went back to Germany. Her kids were in college and she figured they could do fine on their own and could visit her in Germany if she wanted. One of her sons is a recently retired US Army helicopter pilot and another wound up going to Germany after college and eventually wound up working for a Swiss company in Basel and is trying to get Swiss citizenship last I'd heard.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  332. @Calvin Hobbes
    Bat poop crazy news of the day:

    When an Alumnus With a Mike Says Something Offensive

    https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2019/02/14/speaker-cornell-alumni-event-offends-audience-and-college-quickly-responds#disqus_thread

    During a dinner event at the Cornell Alumni Leadership Conference in Boston last Friday, Paul Blanchard, an active alumnus from the Class of 1952 and loyal booster of Cornell athletics, was given an award for being an “outstanding class leader.” During his acceptance speech, Blanchard said that Satchel Paige was one of his heroes and referred to the famed baseball pitcher as a "Negro" and added, "Now they call them blacks."

    Heads turned and mouths dropped, said John Rawlins III, president of the Cornell Black Alumni Association. “It was kind of shocking.”

    Rawlins was not at the event, which was first reported by The Cornell Daily Sun, but he was getting a stream of phone and text-message updates throughout the evening from association members who were at the dinner. He said several black alumni in the room told him they exchanged knowing glances, as if to say, "Did you hear that? Did he really just say what we think he said?"

    It was a cringe-worthy moment that turned a “usually lighthearted conference” into something else.

    “There was disappointment, sadness, anger or all of the above depending on who you ask,” Rawlins said. “The notion that this would be voiced over the microphone was shocking.”

    Wilma Ann Anderson, the black alumni association’s vice president for student relations, was among those at the award dinner who were very disappointed by the comments.

    “It was one of those moments when I wondered, is this one of those bubbles that will float up in the air and pop far away, or will it pop right here and have to be dealt with in a swift manner,” she said. “Sometimes bubbles flow away and we don’t catch them. That one did not float away, and I was gratified not only for myself but for others in the room who were impacted by the statement.”

    Anderson said she didn’t recall ever hearing the word “Negro” until she was an adult.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Paul Blanchard, an active alumnus from the Class of 1952

    Whoa… for a second there, I thought you meant this guy, who’d be 127 this year:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Blanshard

    He and his twin Brand caused all kinds of trouble back in the day. Paul edited The Nation.

    These sentences from Wikipedia might blow your mind:

    Realizing their need for good education, the family relocated to Detroit in 1908 so the boys could graduate from the well-known Central High School. Soon both were at the top of their class, joined the debating team, and Brand was made class Poet. In 1910 the Blanshard brothers entered the University of Michigan, whose annual tuition was only $30 for state residents.

  333. @Charles Pewitt
    @Corvinus


    So, how is your campaign for running for political office coming?

     

    I have made preliminary plans to form an exploratory committee to mull over whether or not I should challenge Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary. My lawyers and advisors tell me to phrase it like that to avoid any irritating interference from the nitpicking scolds at the FEC.

    Thank you for your interest in my campaign!

    Trumpy is a lousy debater. I would love to debate Trumpy on his support for nation-wrecking mass legal immigration. Trumpy might drop out of the campaign like LBJ after I got through with him.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

    Trumpy might drop out of the campaign like LBJ after I got through with him.

    As long as you don’t make him drop trou, like LBJ.

    Johnson lived to dominate, and he used crass behavior to bend people to his will. At 6-ft., 3-in. tall and 210 lbs., he liked to lean over people, spitting, swearing, belching, or laughing in their faces. Once, he even relieved himself on a Secret Serviceman who was shielding him from public view. When the man looked horrified, Johnson simply said, “That’s all right, son. It’s my prerogative.” His favorite power ploy, however, seemed to be dragging people into the bathroom with him—forcing them to continue their conversations with the president as he used the toilet.

    http://mentalfloss.com/article/18463/lbj-president-who-marked-his-territory

    Okay, I think I’ve turned enough stomachs with the four comments above…

  334. @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2


    the sadly inevitable second weddings
     
    Do you really believe this?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Statistics tell me it is likely. I don’t believe it for myself, naturally. I also don’t see it for any other particular people, but stats are stats. There is the confounding factors of class, but it isn’t that confounding.

    At least, I hear, the second round of stag parties are a lot more louche. These have been tame enough even for my wife to mock them. (She is clearly a keeper and I don’t believe in divorce.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2

    Thank you. How did you come to decide to marry her and not another woman whom (I assume) you had dated or might have in the future dated?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  335. @Mr. Anon
    @Tyrion 2


    If donating political money buys you great influence, I guess Bezos hates influence.
     
    Sure, he hates influence. That's why he bought the Washington Post - to NOT be influential. He has also contributed a lot of money to political campaigns.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/05/technology/jeff-bezos-amazon-political-donation-veterans.html

    "The couple are donating $10 million to the With Honor Fund, a so-called super PAC that supports military veterans running for Congress who vow to take a cross-party approach to governing. The group has endorsed 33 candidates running this year — 14 Republicans and 19 Democrats."

    i.e., he is an enthusiastic supporter of the uniparty state. He's also donated a lot to promote gay marriage.

    You're like unz.com's own private version of The Economist - consistently ill-informed. Why don't you stop opining about America, a country you clearly know nothing about.

    Nitwit.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    It seems you’re too thick to even realise when you’re adding evidence to my post.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Tyrion 2

    He didn't buy influence when he didn't have to. Now that he does, he does. He has sought influence in other ways as well - like buying one of the country's foremost prestige newspapers.

    You're full of crap, which is nothing new. You blow a big cloud of squid-ink almost everytime you post.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  336. @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2


    Anyway, the real tragedy of Trump seems to be that he has had to attempt to do so much with relatively miniscule effective support. Those hardy few who have helped are clearly exceptional.
     
    What kind of support are you referring to? What are the names of the hardy few?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Good question. I assume they exist. Evidence is sparse though. Stephen Miller?

    There are more and I am unfair but, yes, Trump is a tragic figure.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2

    I wasn't sure if you were referring to donor monetary support, support of voters, supprt of media, support of Congress, or support of people in the administration. Seems you were referring to people in the administration.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  337. @anon
    @Anon

    I have seen more Poles ,Romanians ,Lithuanians and Slovakians . They have uprooted local business, they have corrupted NY city. They have raked up huge profit at the cost of the citizen in construction business , in grabbing government contracts and overseeing public private services like road construction and sewerage disposal plumbing and long distance truck hauling . Compared to that see muslims driving cabs, imaging retail stores,working in computer or engineering or in medicine .
    There is a reason British have been crying anti Poles anti Eastern Europeans and not ant muslim mantras .

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Yeah, that reason is called “law.” What prison will they be put in if they say they hate white people?

  338. @Mr. Anon
    @AndrewR


    If you want to die, then fine, but don’t romanticize a phenomenon that was a direct result of living in an era in which a civilization-destroying nuclear war was much more likely than it is today.
     
    More likely? Yes. Much more likely? I get less sure about that every day. Our ruling class seems ever more determined to get us involved in a war that could go nuclear and that we could lose.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Our ruling class seems ever more determined to get us involved in a war that could go nuclear and that we could lose.

    Only one political faction in the world has ever descended to employing nuclear weapons.

    Unfortunately, they’re in control of the House of Representatives. But the button is a mile away.Thank God for that!

  339. @Tyrion 2
    @J.Ross

    He said the "leading donor to the Trump campaign was a Zionist" but since that leading donor was Trump (many times over), I agreed - Trump is a consistent nationalist - though utterly isolated and therefore ineffective in government.

    My general point though is that with all this kvetching about Jews making large political donations a few contradictions arise.

    The first does so because the kvetching is based on it supposedly giving Jews great power and influence.

    A point which makes sense in isolation, but which falls down when, given the huge numbers of non-Jews who could easily donate a lot more than that, it means that you have to believe that non-Jewish hard-charging billionaires must hate power and influence. If they could buy it for a day's earnings, why don't they?

    As a counter you might ask then why do these Jews donate what they do - if it affords them little actual power? A simple answer might be that they feel a sense of civic duty, but I believe that is too kind to be the whole reason. Instead, it mostly allows them to preen and feel important and gain social recognition.

    Indeed, as they tend to be old and are the types who always seem to be kvetching themselves about golf clubs or whatever, such a prosaic explanation does fit. When you're seen palling around with the President, you've finally made it.

    From a UK perspective, this is all quite predictable. Traditionally politicians have handed out honours to big time political donors such as the MBE, CBE and OBE. They don't get you anything but it is a nice badge to have. I have known people who have obviously donated mostly for such a reason.

    Trump, a canny client manager, wasn't being stupid when he gave Mrs Shelly Adelson that US Presidential bauble. He was giving her exactly what her husband was paying for.

    "Give me enough medals and I'll win you any war” Napoleon Bonaparte.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    So you’re depending on a one-for-one system of dosh and suction, which is preposterous.

  340. @Tyrion 2
    Perhaps a line about Somali politicians can be added to this old joke?

    Hell is where the police are German, the cooks are English, the mechanics are French, the lovers are Swiss, and it is all organised by the Italians”

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @Brobert, @bomag

    …and they all get replaced by Somalis.

  341. @Tyrion 2
    @Anonymous

    Statistics tell me it is likely. I don't believe it for myself, naturally. I also don't see it for any other particular people, but stats are stats. There is the confounding factors of class, but it isn't that confounding.

    At least, I hear, the second round of stag parties are a lot more louche. These have been tame enough even for my wife to mock them. (She is clearly a keeper and I don't believe in divorce.)

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Thank you. How did you come to decide to marry her and not another woman whom (I assume) you had dated or might have in the future dated?

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Anonymous

    Traditional virtues, intelligent, attractive, self-aware and kind to me.

  342. @Tyrion 2
    @Anonymous

    Good question. I assume they exist. Evidence is sparse though. Stephen Miller?

    There are more and I am unfair but, yes, Trump is a tragic figure.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I wasn’t sure if you were referring to donor monetary support, support of voters, supprt of media, support of Congress, or support of people in the administration. Seems you were referring to people in the administration.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Anonymous

    Apologies, I really meant "effective support". Sure, people trooped out to vote for him and assist on the campaign but, when he was first elected and my friend was naysaying his ability to get anything done, I offered the scenario where a huge number of his supporters went to Washington and essentially camped outside Congress.

    Something like this would have reminded America's politicians of their democratic duty.

    Trump's supporters wanted a (peaceful) revolution but failed, as a group, to make successful demonstrations of power to back it up. Attending a rally in nowheresville is probably fun and with the best people, but were a million strong mob descending on DC every weekend (for protests as peaceful as the Tea Party's) then Trump's initial legislative agenda would have stood more chance.

    Without it, even good-hearted members of Congress can easily trick themselves, in their bubbles, that it wasn't policy that drove Trump's election but a tantrum from the voters or his celebrity. They can believe that basically his normal voters don't care about substance - they can't even be bothered to turn up as often as the entirely purposeless, asinine "Women's March".

  343. @Reg Cæsar
    @Lagertha


    let’s not get started on the uniforms!
     
    Your compatriot sure did:


    http://pipa.chez.com/tom6.jpg

    http://www.starobserver.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Stampbanner.jpg

    Replies: @Lagertha

    Saw his show in Hki, a few summers ago. I have ToF dish towels!

    It’s funny how American Progressives disregard Tom’s obvious fascination with Nazi uniforms and the ideal of the male physique. Of course, he did draw male POC, but his faves were always CA beach bums (Venice) once he moved to murica.

    Even Finnish straight men thought Tom was so outrageous that people became fond of him: Finnish guy in the early 2000’s said to me, “any one who becomes famous in LA who is Finnish is good for us,” – Armenians are now crazy about Kim Kardashian (she visited) in the same way. Kinda’ a fetish of obscure countries.

  344. @Northeast
    Was watching some clips of American life in the 1950s on Youtube. Cripes....look what we have lost! Look at this cesspool we now live in. My elderly parents are, unfortunately, catching a glimpse of the coming collapse of the West in their final years.

    This is something I suspected to live through, but had thought it would come in the autumn of my life, not that of my older family members.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anon, @Detective Club, @Detective Club, @Polynikes, @Jake, @UrbaneFrancoOntarian, @ThreeCranes, @Hark hark the snark, @BigDickNick

    On the other hand, I’m from an urban area not in california…certain urban areas were a lot worse when my parents were my age. A lot of places got smashed by the great migration and turned into near shitholes. Today, they are just starting to come back. Think of Richmond, VA 25 years ago and today or Detroit 10 years ago and today. Just like progress is not inevitable crapification is not inevitable. In california it probably is though, haha.

  345. @SunBakedSuburb
    @Dave Pinsen

    This looks like a staged photo for Ford's Mustang. But your point is well-taken.

    Replies: @Alfa158

    That could have been a pretty typical scene on cruise nights on Van Nuys boulevard back then. It used to draw a lot of young people. I shake my head now over how much gas it took my friend to drive his ‘Cuda with a built 440 and dual quads on a tunnel ram, from the Beach Cities to the Valley and back on cruise night.

  346. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    For most on the left, it’s not real burning hate—they are afflicted with more of a “Hate us ‘cause they ain’t us” envy.
     
    Derb once pointed out that American lefties never really hate their country, not enough to leave. But Brits... so many are living out their lives in places like Thailand, Morocco, or Ceylon. They really hate the homeland.

    That, and the underage sex. They can get that at home, too, but the crackdowns come too often.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Derb once pointed out that American lefties never really hate their country, not enough to leave. But Brits… so many are living out their lives in places like Thailand, Morocco, or Ceylon. They really hate the homeland.

    That, and the underage sex. They can get that at home, too, but the crackdowns come too often.

    Never confuse hatred with resentment.

    The Left resents Core America. If they really hated it, they would emigrate, but they know that would be expensive. If Jewish, or willing to go through orthodox conversion, they could go to Israel. If they have job skills they could go to Canada, which is cold in the winter, or maybe Brazil or Argentina, or parts of Europe. Their standard of living would be less, they’d have to learn a new language, and the locals wouldn’t put up with their shit. So they stay, and resent.

    Their resentment comes out in personal nastiness and in destructive political activity, and occasionally, if given the opportunity, in treason.

    People who genuinely hate a place tend to just leave it. They want nothing to do with it and they will pay the personal price to do so.

    I knew a woman who was a 1960s Cold War bride from Germany. She married an Army tank officer. She loved her husband but quietly hated America, because of what she saw as its lack of organization and structure, bad driving, lack of rigor in the schools, etc. When her husband died, the day after the funeral she sold the house and went back to Germany. Her kids were in college and she figured they could do fine on their own and could visit her in Germany if she wanted. One of her sons is a recently retired US Army helicopter pilot and another wound up going to Germany after college and eventually wound up working for a Swiss company in Basel and is trying to get Swiss citizenship last I’d heard.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    The Left resents Core America. If they really hated it, they would emigrate
     
    No. If they really hated it, they would try to kill it off.

    Replies: @Corn

  347. @Anonymous
    @ATBOTL


    I hope everyone here understands that Tyrion 2 is arguing bad faith. He has no concern for the truth, only for ethnic activism on behalf of his tribe.
     
    He has some excellent insights and statements. As to certain areas where he has conflicting interests, he may not even be aware of his biases.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    I haven’t noticed any insights, excellent or otherwise. Only the biases that you mentioned and the bad-faith that ATBOTL pointed out.

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
  348. @Anonymous
    @Reg Cæsar


    Derb once pointed out that American lefties never really hate their country, not enough to leave. But Brits… so many are living out their lives in places like Thailand, Morocco, or Ceylon. They really hate the homeland.

    That, and the underage sex. They can get that at home, too, but the crackdowns come too often.
     
    Never confuse hatred with resentment.

    The Left resents Core America. If they really hated it, they would emigrate, but they know that would be expensive. If Jewish, or willing to go through orthodox conversion, they could go to Israel. If they have job skills they could go to Canada, which is cold in the winter, or maybe Brazil or Argentina, or parts of Europe. Their standard of living would be less, they'd have to learn a new language, and the locals wouldn't put up with their shit. So they stay, and resent.

    Their resentment comes out in personal nastiness and in destructive political activity, and occasionally, if given the opportunity, in treason.

    People who genuinely hate a place tend to just leave it. They want nothing to do with it and they will pay the personal price to do so.

    I knew a woman who was a 1960s Cold War bride from Germany. She married an Army tank officer. She loved her husband but quietly hated America, because of what she saw as its lack of organization and structure, bad driving, lack of rigor in the schools, etc. When her husband died, the day after the funeral she sold the house and went back to Germany. Her kids were in college and she figured they could do fine on their own and could visit her in Germany if she wanted. One of her sons is a recently retired US Army helicopter pilot and another wound up going to Germany after college and eventually wound up working for a Swiss company in Basel and is trying to get Swiss citizenship last I'd heard.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    The Left resents Core America. If they really hated it, they would emigrate

    No. If they really hated it, they would try to kill it off.

    • Replies: @Corn
    @Anonymous

    That’s well underway

  349. @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2

    I wasn't sure if you were referring to donor monetary support, support of voters, supprt of media, support of Congress, or support of people in the administration. Seems you were referring to people in the administration.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Apologies, I really meant “effective support”. Sure, people trooped out to vote for him and assist on the campaign but, when he was first elected and my friend was naysaying his ability to get anything done, I offered the scenario where a huge number of his supporters went to Washington and essentially camped outside Congress.

    Something like this would have reminded America’s politicians of their democratic duty.

    Trump’s supporters wanted a (peaceful) revolution but failed, as a group, to make successful demonstrations of power to back it up. Attending a rally in nowheresville is probably fun and with the best people, but were a million strong mob descending on DC every weekend (for protests as peaceful as the Tea Party’s) then Trump’s initial legislative agenda would have stood more chance.

    Without it, even good-hearted members of Congress can easily trick themselves, in their bubbles, that it wasn’t policy that drove Trump’s election but a tantrum from the voters or his celebrity. They can believe that basically his normal voters don’t care about substance – they can’t even be bothered to turn up as often as the entirely purposeless, asinine “Women’s March”.

  350. @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Grievance and, to a lesser extent, resentment imply possible culpability of the target in a way that "hate" and "envy" and "anti-Semitism" do not. Learn from the Jews--they are the best in the business.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Grievance and, to a lesser extent, resentment imply possible culpability of the target in a way that “hate” and “envy” and “anti-Semitism” do not.

    Grievance and resentment are good terms because they also automatically imply, by definition, imagined wrongs or unfair treatment. They speak to probable delusion, projection, or envy as a motivator, not only mere unexplained “hate.” Plus they mock groups who like to describe themselves as psychologically “fierce” and “strong” collectively and as individuals. One can’t be those things and also be consumed by grievance and resentment.

    It’s like the word pious—it means either “devoutly religious,” or more likely in modern usage—“making a hypocritical display of virtue.” Would you complain about Steve mocking some SJW’s “piety”?

    “Hate” can be the right word given the specific case, but one problem with the word “hate” in general is that it’s mockably melodramatically overused by the usual suspect drama queens (e.g. “Hate Has No Home Here” lawn signs or the ADL’s “No Place For Hate” slogan). The right shouldn’t associate itself with that kind of pious voguing and Orwellian haranguing.

    Contempt is the best attitude for the right towards intransigent enemies—amused contempt if holding power, ruthless contempt if in the fight.

    As for the term “anti-Semitism,” see my responses to Tyrion 2 in this thread.

    Learn from the Jews–they are the best in the business.

    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses. If you’re currently in the market, I advise you to sell.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses. If you’re currently in the market, I advise you to sell.
     
    Everything that exists for a long time will rise and fall and rise and fall. You're imposing your wishful thinking on this basic fact. You remind me of people who short the stock market for no other reason than it has been rising for a while. They tend to lose a lot of money.

    The anti-Semitic mythos that leeches off the dissident right is basically always like this. Find a generalised truth and pretend that it has ominous meaning specific to Jews.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Grievance and resentment are good terms because they also automatically imply, by definition, imagined wrongs or unfair treatment.
     
    They imply unfair treatment, yes, but not imagined wrongs.

    They speak to probable delusion, projection
     
    No they don't. Find one example.

    And also find examples of Jews describing people who oppose them as being motivated by "grievances."

    Do you really think you know better how to present things than that word-clever group does?

    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses.
     
    An old canard.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  351. @Tex
    @Tyrion 2


    The surviving members of the sacrificed scapegoats would, in the aftermath, be rendered holy and this would continue through the next cycle because their death would have brought social peace.
     
    Armenians are treated with reverence in Turkey these days?

    I guess Indians (feather not dot) get rather exaggerated respect in the USA, but we're not Turks. I think Jews have it way better than Injuns in the US and the worst that happened to Jews in America was that they had to earn their livings. We're a lot more likely to bomb Damascus, Syria than Custer, SD.

    This whole "survivors become holy" thing seems a little too hit-or-miss to support Mr. Girard's assertions.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    The Armenians were almost all killed. Just 50,000 remain and Turkey denies killing them – which I suppose is another way to deal with a former scapegoat, nonetheless:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkish_Armenians

    It seems they are doing pretty well. I don’t know enough about Turkey to say if a mythos surrounds them.

    I guess Indians (feather not dot) get rather exaggerated respect in the USA, but we’re not Turks. I think Jews have it way better than Injuns in the US and the worst that happened to Jews in America was that they had to earn their livings. We’re a lot more likely to bomb Damascus, Syria than Custer, SD.

    If we take WWII the culmination of a civil war across the Western World, and the true war to end all such wars, then Jews, as the sacrificed people whose blood ended that conflict*, are endowed with a certain holiness, until the next cycle at least.

    *Obviously it was the brave soldiers’ blood who actually ended the war, but it might be said that it was the discovery of the Holocaust that caused that particular social conflict to never spark back into life, as it had before.

    As for the next cycle of increasing mimesis and social competition, its culmination feels close, at which point, the two conflicting sides will find another scapegoat. Or not, as perhaps modern media-based entertainment sufficiently ritualises the whole process in the way that Girard held the Catholic Church did. People are always complaining of the passivity induced from video games (no lack of blood in those), and superhero movies (some of whose characters are Christ-like archetypes).

    Still a feeling of social conflict does seem to be increasing and accelerating as it does…the sides might best be described as nationalists and globalists or traditionalists and progressives, this time.

    The blackpill is that no one wins such a conflict. Something new is born in its place instead. The Athenian liberal commercial imperial powers fell in the two “world wars” (one long war) just as surely as the Spartan authoritarian militaristic ones did.

    • Replies: @Tex
    @Tyrion 2


    *Obviously it was the brave soldiers’ blood who actually ended the war, but it might be said that it was the discovery of the Holocaust that caused that particular social conflict to never spark back into life, as it had before.
     
    That's way too procrustean to make this a viable theory.

    Empirical facts indicate Jews have power as a group because as a group have money and influence far beyond their numbers. They wave the bloody shirt, not because they appreciate their role as historic scapegoats, but because that's the shirt they have to wave.

    If Girard offers any insight in the sacralization of victimhood, it must be "don't believe other groups' BS about how they paid for your sins." Myths and mythos are surely important, and no doubt play a role in reinforcing peoples' ways of interacting in society. But, if you own a media empire and a hard-nosed appreciation for the who-whom question, myths are just another machine to be used.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Anonymous

  352. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous


    Grievance and, to a lesser extent, resentment imply possible culpability of the target in a way that “hate” and “envy” and “anti-Semitism” do not.
     
    Grievance and resentment are good terms because they also automatically imply, by definition, imagined wrongs or unfair treatment. They speak to probable delusion, projection, or envy as a motivator, not only mere unexplained “hate.” Plus they mock groups who like to describe themselves as psychologically “fierce” and “strong” collectively and as individuals. One can’t be those things and also be consumed by grievance and resentment.

    It’s like the word pious—it means either “devoutly religious,” or more likely in modern usage—“making a hypocritical display of virtue.” Would you complain about Steve mocking some SJW’s “piety”?

    “Hate” can be the right word given the specific case, but one problem with the word “hate” in general is that it’s mockably melodramatically overused by the usual suspect drama queens (e.g. “Hate Has No Home Here” lawn signs or the ADL’s “No Place For Hate” slogan). The right shouldn’t associate itself with that kind of pious voguing and Orwellian haranguing.

    Contempt is the best attitude for the right towards intransigent enemies—amused contempt if holding power, ruthless contempt if in the fight.

    As for the term “anti-Semitism,” see my responses to Tyrion 2 in this thread.

    Learn from the Jews–they are the best in the business.
     
    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses. If you’re currently in the market, I advise you to sell.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Anonymous

    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses. If you’re currently in the market, I advise you to sell.

    Everything that exists for a long time will rise and fall and rise and fall. You’re imposing your wishful thinking on this basic fact. You remind me of people who short the stock market for no other reason than it has been rising for a while. They tend to lose a lot of money.

    The anti-Semitic mythos that leeches off the dissident right is basically always like this. Find a generalised truth and pretend that it has ominous meaning specific to Jews.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2


    You remind me of people who short the stock market for no other reason than it has been rising for a while.
     
    Tyrion, I didn’t write “short the Jews,” I merely advised that if he or she is “currently in the market” (i.e. holding) to divest.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  353. @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses. If you’re currently in the market, I advise you to sell.
     
    Everything that exists for a long time will rise and fall and rise and fall. You're imposing your wishful thinking on this basic fact. You remind me of people who short the stock market for no other reason than it has been rising for a while. They tend to lose a lot of money.

    The anti-Semitic mythos that leeches off the dissident right is basically always like this. Find a generalised truth and pretend that it has ominous meaning specific to Jews.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You remind me of people who short the stock market for no other reason than it has been rising for a while.

    Tyrion, I didn’t write “short the Jews,” I merely advised that if he or she is “currently in the market” (i.e. holding) to divest.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Be honest, you were just trying to find a way to gain pleasure through your imaginary enemy (that you call the Jews and only mildly correlates to actual Jews) experiencing catastrophic pain.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  354. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2


    You remind me of people who short the stock market for no other reason than it has been rising for a while.
     
    Tyrion, I didn’t write “short the Jews,” I merely advised that if he or she is “currently in the market” (i.e. holding) to divest.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Be honest, you were just trying to find a way to gain pleasure through your imaginary enemy (that you call the Jews and only mildly correlates to actual Jews) experiencing catastrophic pain.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2

    Your attempts at psychoanalysis are droll, but is there something incorrect in my earlier boom-and-spectacular-bust historical assessment? You seem desperate to pump the underlying shares touted by Anonymous[318].

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  355. @Tyrion 2
    @Menschmaschine

    Corbyn lost the white working class, amazing for Labour, because he clearly thinks they are in the way of his political programme. The Jew stuff just kept him distracted from criticising the government. Most people in Britain are confused when people start talking about Jew this and Jew that. It is a confusing turn off.

    Replies: @ATBOTL

    Corbyn never said a thing about “Jew this and Jew that,” you liar.

    The Jewish Lobby attacked Corbyn and he showed incredible restraint in defending himself from absurd lies.

    Tyrion2 is such a flagrant liar.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @ATBOTL

    No, you're just too thick to follow my point (Mr not Mirpur's best). I never said Corbyn said Jew this and Jew that. It was his more excitable supporters who did and it was them who have been hung around his neck.

    Corbyn hates people in general. He tried to pass a parliamentary motion calling for an asteroid to wipe our despicable, horrible species out. He specifically most dislikes white British people - which he is why he does everything he can to encourage immigration and promotes avowed anti-white racists to his cabinet. This then flows into anti-Semitism by proxy, as when Jews are seen as pitted against less white and less British people, Corbyn's sympathies inevitably go with the more diverse. Such as when he was palling around with Hamas or memorialising the Munich terrorists.

    Now someone clever has either worked this out or stumbled into it. They have realised that they can't accuse Corbyn of his primary discriminatory crime - anti-Britishness - but, because of the process outlined above, there is some smoke around anti-Semitism. Thus they accuse him of this and thus his over-excited supporters stupidly adopt what their enemies want them to be and become the albatross around his neck. It is dragging him down and those dumb supporters may yet drown him.

    This is why Corbyn has been unable to talk about anything else and has been entirely unable to take advantage of the most fortuitous circumstances for an opposition party in decades and decades and decades.

    Imagine being the leader of the opposition when the government's main policy satisfies no-one, everyone is already bored of that government, the election has been only semi-legally called and for cynical reasons by said government, the third party is besmirched because their "liberal" leader has been successfully tarnished as an anti-gay bigot, the prime-minister is entirely devoid of charisma and never really wanted to lead, economic circumstances mean that the public massively favours your key policies...that's a great position to be in! Now imagine losing worse than Gordon Brown, whose situation was the exact opposite!

    Amazing.

  356. @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Be honest, you were just trying to find a way to gain pleasure through your imaginary enemy (that you call the Jews and only mildly correlates to actual Jews) experiencing catastrophic pain.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Your attempts at psychoanalysis are droll, but is there something incorrect in my earlier boom-and-spectacular-bust historical assessment? You seem desperate to pump the underlying shares touted by Anonymous[318].

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    He said that you might learn from people who phrase things well. You implied that they'd all be slaughtered soon!

    It isn't a great stretch to assume that you just like thinking of certain people being slaughtered.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

  357. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2

    Your attempts at psychoanalysis are droll, but is there something incorrect in my earlier boom-and-spectacular-bust historical assessment? You seem desperate to pump the underlying shares touted by Anonymous[318].

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    He said that you might learn from people who phrase things well. You implied that they’d all be slaughtered soon!

    It isn’t a great stretch to assume that you just like thinking of certain people being slaughtered.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2


    You implied that they’d all be slaughtered soon!
     
    Not necessarily. In that case, I would have recommended some puts. Nonetheless, business has been shaky as of late so I think dumping shares is the way to go.

    It isn’t a great stretch to assume that you just like thinking of certain people being slaughtered.
     
    Calm down, yoga manlet. Reg’s post upthread has got you paranoid and hot ’n’ bothered.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Mr. Anon

  358. @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    He said that you might learn from people who phrase things well. You implied that they'd all be slaughtered soon!

    It isn't a great stretch to assume that you just like thinking of certain people being slaughtered.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You implied that they’d all be slaughtered soon!

    Not necessarily. In that case, I would have recommended some puts. Nonetheless, business has been shaky as of late so I think dumping shares is the way to go.

    It isn’t a great stretch to assume that you just like thinking of certain people being slaughtered.

    Calm down, yoga manlet. Reg’s post upthread has got you paranoid and hot ’n’ bothered.

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Every time you make what you think are cleverly vague and yet ominous threats, you look silly and small. Anyone can read through them. You might as well just shout from the rooftops that you're a basically unpleasant person who loves indulging in that fact.

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Note how this bounder, who has been cluttering up this site for only about a year, calls everyone and anyone a "troll" - including people who have commented here for over a decade. I'm waiting for him to label Steve Sailer or Ron Unz "trolls"; it's only a matter of time.

  359. @Anonymous
    @Tyrion 2

    Thank you. How did you come to decide to marry her and not another woman whom (I assume) you had dated or might have in the future dated?

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Traditional virtues, intelligent, attractive, self-aware and kind to me.

  360. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2


    You implied that they’d all be slaughtered soon!
     
    Not necessarily. In that case, I would have recommended some puts. Nonetheless, business has been shaky as of late so I think dumping shares is the way to go.

    It isn’t a great stretch to assume that you just like thinking of certain people being slaughtered.
     
    Calm down, yoga manlet. Reg’s post upthread has got you paranoid and hot ’n’ bothered.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Mr. Anon

    Every time you make what you think are cleverly vague and yet ominous threats, you look silly and small. Anyone can read through them. You might as well just shout from the rooftops that you’re a basically unpleasant person who loves indulging in that fact.

  361. @ATBOTL
    @Tyrion 2

    Corbyn never said a thing about "Jew this and Jew that," you liar.

    The Jewish Lobby attacked Corbyn and he showed incredible restraint in defending himself from absurd lies.

    Tyrion2 is such a flagrant liar.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    No, you’re just too thick to follow my point (Mr not Mirpur’s best). I never said Corbyn said Jew this and Jew that. It was his more excitable supporters who did and it was them who have been hung around his neck.

    Corbyn hates people in general. He tried to pass a parliamentary motion calling for an asteroid to wipe our despicable, horrible species out. He specifically most dislikes white British people – which he is why he does everything he can to encourage immigration and promotes avowed anti-white racists to his cabinet. This then flows into anti-Semitism by proxy, as when Jews are seen as pitted against less white and less British people, Corbyn’s sympathies inevitably go with the more diverse. Such as when he was palling around with Hamas or memorialising the Munich terrorists.

    Now someone clever has either worked this out or stumbled into it. They have realised that they can’t accuse Corbyn of his primary discriminatory crime – anti-Britishness – but, because of the process outlined above, there is some smoke around anti-Semitism. Thus they accuse him of this and thus his over-excited supporters stupidly adopt what their enemies want them to be and become the albatross around his neck. It is dragging him down and those dumb supporters may yet drown him.

    This is why Corbyn has been unable to talk about anything else and has been entirely unable to take advantage of the most fortuitous circumstances for an opposition party in decades and decades and decades.

    Imagine being the leader of the opposition when the government’s main policy satisfies no-one, everyone is already bored of that government, the election has been only semi-legally called and for cynical reasons by said government, the third party is besmirched because their “liberal” leader has been successfully tarnished as an anti-gay bigot, the prime-minister is entirely devoid of charisma and never really wanted to lead, economic circumstances mean that the public massively favours your key policies…that’s a great position to be in! Now imagine losing worse than Gordon Brown, whose situation was the exact opposite!

    Amazing.

  362. @Charles Pewitt
    @Corvinus


    So, how is your campaign for running for political office coming?

     

    I have made preliminary plans to form an exploratory committee to mull over whether or not I should challenge Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary. My lawyers and advisors tell me to phrase it like that to avoid any irritating interference from the nitpicking scolds at the FEC.

    Thank you for your interest in my campaign!

    Trumpy is a lousy debater. I would love to debate Trumpy on his support for nation-wrecking mass legal immigration. Trumpy might drop out of the campaign like LBJ after I got through with him.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Corvinus

    “I have made preliminary plans to form an exploratory committee to mull over whether or not I should challenge Trump in the 2020 GOP presidential primary. My lawyers and advisors tell me to phrase it like that to avoid any irritating interference from the nitpicking scolds at the FEC.”

    So you’re Sugar Daddy is floating you the cash, huh? Well, to actually legitimize your run for the presidency, you really need to prove it. Link an online video of yourself declaring your intentions. That way, we will know for certain whether or not you are trolling us, per usual. That is generally your m.o.

  363. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    The Left resents Core America. If they really hated it, they would emigrate
     
    No. If they really hated it, they would try to kill it off.

    Replies: @Corn

    That’s well underway

  364. @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    It seems you're too thick to even realise when you're adding evidence to my post.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    He didn’t buy influence when he didn’t have to. Now that he does, he does. He has sought influence in other ways as well – like buying one of the country’s foremost prestige newspapers.

    You’re full of crap, which is nothing new. You blow a big cloud of squid-ink almost everytime you post.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    Honestly, messaging back and forth with you is like messaging back and forth with a very drunk 8 year old. More fool on me.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  365. @Tyrion 2
    @Tex

    The Armenians were almost all killed. Just 50,000 remain and Turkey denies killing them - which I suppose is another way to deal with a former scapegoat, nonetheless:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Turkish_Armenians

    It seems they are doing pretty well. I don't know enough about Turkey to say if a mythos surrounds them.


    I guess Indians (feather not dot) get rather exaggerated respect in the USA, but we’re not Turks. I think Jews have it way better than Injuns in the US and the worst that happened to Jews in America was that they had to earn their livings. We’re a lot more likely to bomb Damascus, Syria than Custer, SD.
     
    If we take WWII the culmination of a civil war across the Western World, and the true war to end all such wars, then Jews, as the sacrificed people whose blood ended that conflict*, are endowed with a certain holiness, until the next cycle at least.

    *Obviously it was the brave soldiers' blood who actually ended the war, but it might be said that it was the discovery of the Holocaust that caused that particular social conflict to never spark back into life, as it had before.

    As for the next cycle of increasing mimesis and social competition, its culmination feels close, at which point, the two conflicting sides will find another scapegoat. Or not, as perhaps modern media-based entertainment sufficiently ritualises the whole process in the way that Girard held the Catholic Church did. People are always complaining of the passivity induced from video games (no lack of blood in those), and superhero movies (some of whose characters are Christ-like archetypes).

    Still a feeling of social conflict does seem to be increasing and accelerating as it does...the sides might best be described as nationalists and globalists or traditionalists and progressives, this time.

    The blackpill is that no one wins such a conflict. Something new is born in its place instead. The Athenian liberal commercial imperial powers fell in the two "world wars" (one long war) just as surely as the Spartan authoritarian militaristic ones did.

    Replies: @Tex

    *Obviously it was the brave soldiers’ blood who actually ended the war, but it might be said that it was the discovery of the Holocaust that caused that particular social conflict to never spark back into life, as it had before.

    That’s way too procrustean to make this a viable theory.

    Empirical facts indicate Jews have power as a group because as a group have money and influence far beyond their numbers. They wave the bloody shirt, not because they appreciate their role as historic scapegoats, but because that’s the shirt they have to wave.

    If Girard offers any insight in the sacralization of victimhood, it must be “don’t believe other groups’ BS about how they paid for your sins.” Myths and mythos are surely important, and no doubt play a role in reinforcing peoples’ ways of interacting in society. But, if you own a media empire and a hard-nosed appreciation for the who-whom question, myths are just another machine to be used.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Tex

    You're trapped in the mimetic conflict.

    , @Anonymous
    @Tex


    But, if you own a media empire and a hard-nosed appreciation for the who-whom question, myths are just another machine to be used.
     
    What do you mean?

    Replies: @Tex

  366. Anonymous[183] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous


    Grievance and, to a lesser extent, resentment imply possible culpability of the target in a way that “hate” and “envy” and “anti-Semitism” do not.
     
    Grievance and resentment are good terms because they also automatically imply, by definition, imagined wrongs or unfair treatment. They speak to probable delusion, projection, or envy as a motivator, not only mere unexplained “hate.” Plus they mock groups who like to describe themselves as psychologically “fierce” and “strong” collectively and as individuals. One can’t be those things and also be consumed by grievance and resentment.

    It’s like the word pious—it means either “devoutly religious,” or more likely in modern usage—“making a hypocritical display of virtue.” Would you complain about Steve mocking some SJW’s “piety”?

    “Hate” can be the right word given the specific case, but one problem with the word “hate” in general is that it’s mockably melodramatically overused by the usual suspect drama queens (e.g. “Hate Has No Home Here” lawn signs or the ADL’s “No Place For Hate” slogan). The right shouldn’t associate itself with that kind of pious voguing and Orwellian haranguing.

    Contempt is the best attitude for the right towards intransigent enemies—amused contempt if holding power, ruthless contempt if in the fight.

    As for the term “anti-Semitism,” see my responses to Tyrion 2 in this thread.

    Learn from the Jews–they are the best in the business.
     
    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses. If you’re currently in the market, I advise you to sell.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Anonymous

    Grievance and resentment are good terms because they also automatically imply, by definition, imagined wrongs or unfair treatment.

    They imply unfair treatment, yes, but not imagined wrongs.

    They speak to probable delusion, projection

    No they don’t. Find one example.

    And also find examples of Jews describing people who oppose them as being motivated by “grievances.”

    Do you really think you know better how to present things than that word-clever group does?

    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses.

    An old canard.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous

    You’re joking, of course (who doesn’t know what a dictionary is?), but here ya go:

    New Oxford American Dictionary (same definition provided by Google):

    grievance

    noun


    • a real or imagined wrong or other cause for complaint or protest, especially unfair treatment.

    • an official statement of a complaint over something believed to be wrong or unfair.

    • a feeling of resentment over something believed to be wrong or unfair.
     
    Merriam-Webster:

    resentment

    noun

    • a feeling of indignant displeasure or persistent ill will at something regarded as a wrong, insult, or injury
     
    So: Grievances and resentment can be based on real injuries, or on imagined or overblown slights. Obviously Steve is emphasizing the latter, which is becoming the dominant meaning. If you’re not willing to concede the existence of both definitions, you are loco, friendo.

    No they don’t. Find one example.
     
    Google search for grievance politically correct (no quotes) and tell me what you find. Spoiler alert: All the headlines/articles use “grievance” as a pejorative noun or modifier (e.g. “grievance politics”). Resentment politically correct brings up articles with almost the same entirely negative connotations about the identified resentful.

    And also find examples of Jews describing people who oppose them as being motivated by “grievances.”
     
    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/trumps-terrifying-online-brigades/

    Do you really think you know better how to present things than that word-clever group does?
     
    You should fix your own “word-clever” abilities before ‘correcting’ others.

    “Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses.”

    An old canard.
     
    Not to Jews. Doesn’t “Shoah” mean catastrophe ?
  367. Tyrion2 is putting on a clinic in Jewish lying and evasion tactics. Note the high psychological intensity and verbosity. These are typical traits of Jewish ethnic activists.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @ATBOTL

    Tyrion 2 is like the James Brown of the Hasbara racket - the hardest working man in ethnic deflection.

    , @Tyrion 2
    @ATBOTL

    ATBOTL - Allah's Troubled But Obviously Terroristic Liar.

  368. @Tex
    @Tyrion 2


    *Obviously it was the brave soldiers’ blood who actually ended the war, but it might be said that it was the discovery of the Holocaust that caused that particular social conflict to never spark back into life, as it had before.
     
    That's way too procrustean to make this a viable theory.

    Empirical facts indicate Jews have power as a group because as a group have money and influence far beyond their numbers. They wave the bloody shirt, not because they appreciate their role as historic scapegoats, but because that's the shirt they have to wave.

    If Girard offers any insight in the sacralization of victimhood, it must be "don't believe other groups' BS about how they paid for your sins." Myths and mythos are surely important, and no doubt play a role in reinforcing peoples' ways of interacting in society. But, if you own a media empire and a hard-nosed appreciation for the who-whom question, myths are just another machine to be used.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Anonymous

    You’re trapped in the mimetic conflict.

  369. @Mr. Anon
    @Tyrion 2

    He didn't buy influence when he didn't have to. Now that he does, he does. He has sought influence in other ways as well - like buying one of the country's foremost prestige newspapers.

    You're full of crap, which is nothing new. You blow a big cloud of squid-ink almost everytime you post.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    Honestly, messaging back and forth with you is like messaging back and forth with a very drunk 8 year old. More fool on me.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Tyrion 2

    You're not bright enough to pull off this "I'm so much smarter than everyone else" line of horse s**t. Hasbara trolls are a dime a dozen. You're nothing special.

    This was your - what? - 45th post on this topic? We all know what your doing - making propaganda for your ethnic brand. We're not fooled, nitwit.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

  370. @Anonymous
    @Jenner Ickham Errican


    Grievance and resentment are good terms because they also automatically imply, by definition, imagined wrongs or unfair treatment.
     
    They imply unfair treatment, yes, but not imagined wrongs.

    They speak to probable delusion, projection
     
    No they don't. Find one example.

    And also find examples of Jews describing people who oppose them as being motivated by "grievances."

    Do you really think you know better how to present things than that word-clever group does?

    Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses.
     
    An old canard.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    You’re joking, of course (who doesn’t know what a dictionary is?), but here ya go:

    New Oxford American Dictionary (same definition provided by Google):

    grievance

    noun

    • a real or imagined wrong or other cause for complaint or protest, especially unfair treatment.

    • an official statement of a complaint over something believed to be wrong or unfair.

    • a feeling of resentment over something believed to be wrong or unfair.

    Merriam-Webster:

    resentment

    noun

    • a feeling of indignant displeasure or persistent ill will at something regarded as a wrong, insult, or injury

    So: Grievances and resentment can be based on real injuries, or on imagined or overblown slights. Obviously Steve is emphasizing the latter, which is becoming the dominant meaning. If you’re not willing to concede the existence of both definitions, you are loco, friendo.

    No they don’t. Find one example.

    Google search for grievance politically correct (no quotes) and tell me what you find. Spoiler alert: All the headlines/articles use “grievance” as a pejorative noun or modifier (e.g. “grievance politics”). Resentment politically correct brings up articles with almost the same entirely negative connotations about the identified resentful.

    And also find examples of Jews describing people who oppose them as being motivated by “grievances.”

    https://www.commentarymagazine.com/articles/trumps-terrifying-online-brigades/

    Do you really think you know better how to present things than that word-clever group does?

    You should fix your own “word-clever” abilities before ‘correcting’ others.

    “Their business is cyclical, with recurrent catastrophic losses.”

    An old canard.

    Not to Jews. Doesn’t “Shoah” mean catastrophe ?

  371. @Tex
    @Tyrion 2


    *Obviously it was the brave soldiers’ blood who actually ended the war, but it might be said that it was the discovery of the Holocaust that caused that particular social conflict to never spark back into life, as it had before.
     
    That's way too procrustean to make this a viable theory.

    Empirical facts indicate Jews have power as a group because as a group have money and influence far beyond their numbers. They wave the bloody shirt, not because they appreciate their role as historic scapegoats, but because that's the shirt they have to wave.

    If Girard offers any insight in the sacralization of victimhood, it must be "don't believe other groups' BS about how they paid for your sins." Myths and mythos are surely important, and no doubt play a role in reinforcing peoples' ways of interacting in society. But, if you own a media empire and a hard-nosed appreciation for the who-whom question, myths are just another machine to be used.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Anonymous

    But, if you own a media empire and a hard-nosed appreciation for the who-whom question, myths are just another machine to be used.

    What do you mean?

    • Replies: @Tex
    @Anonymous

    Myths are good raw material for propaganda. People with an agenda tend to produce propaganda, not objective news. The tiny number of multi-millionaires who own most of the media, traditional or otherwise, and the people who work for them observably produce lots of propaganda with an agenda.

  372. @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    Honestly, messaging back and forth with you is like messaging back and forth with a very drunk 8 year old. More fool on me.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    You’re not bright enough to pull off this “I’m so much smarter than everyone else” line of horse s**t. Hasbara trolls are a dime a dozen. You’re nothing special.

    This was your – what? – 45th post on this topic? We all know what your doing – making propaganda for your ethnic brand. We’re not fooled, nitwit.

    • Replies: @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    I'm not bright, you're just dumb.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

  373. @ATBOTL
    Tyrion2 is putting on a clinic in Jewish lying and evasion tactics. Note the high psychological intensity and verbosity. These are typical traits of Jewish ethnic activists.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Tyrion 2

    Tyrion 2 is like the James Brown of the Hasbara racket – the hardest working man in ethnic deflection.

  374. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Tyrion 2


    You implied that they’d all be slaughtered soon!
     
    Not necessarily. In that case, I would have recommended some puts. Nonetheless, business has been shaky as of late so I think dumping shares is the way to go.

    It isn’t a great stretch to assume that you just like thinking of certain people being slaughtered.
     
    Calm down, yoga manlet. Reg’s post upthread has got you paranoid and hot ’n’ bothered.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Mr. Anon

    Note how this bounder, who has been cluttering up this site for only about a year, calls everyone and anyone a “troll” – including people who have commented here for over a decade. I’m waiting for him to label Steve Sailer or Ron Unz “trolls”; it’s only a matter of time.

    • Troll: Tyrion 2
  375. @ATBOTL
    Tyrion2 is putting on a clinic in Jewish lying and evasion tactics. Note the high psychological intensity and verbosity. These are typical traits of Jewish ethnic activists.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Tyrion 2

    ATBOTL – Allah’s Troubled But Obviously Terroristic Liar.

  376. @Mr. Anon
    @Tyrion 2

    You're not bright enough to pull off this "I'm so much smarter than everyone else" line of horse s**t. Hasbara trolls are a dime a dozen. You're nothing special.

    This was your - what? - 45th post on this topic? We all know what your doing - making propaganda for your ethnic brand. We're not fooled, nitwit.

    Replies: @Tyrion 2

    I’m not bright, you’re just dumb.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Tyrion 2

    No, I'm pretty smart. Certainly a lot smarter than you, manlet.

  377. @Abe

    By the way, I’m struck by how much Rep. Omar, who is quite pretty for a member of Congress
     
    Yes, Omar is pretty young for a Congress Creature and so therefore young and pretty (for a Congress Creature). Steve used to quote this line by Evelyn Waugh(?), which I can’t find anymore, but it basically went that as a conservative he hoped to see the world divided into a collection of dozens of thriving, mutually antagonistic nation-states. Meaning, the central irony of our political disposition is that we tend to most vehemently fight those who are sometimes closest to us in our actual values- namely conservative nationalists from other countries, cultures, religions and races. Fully saving Finland from globohomo would ironically mean a world where I’d be much more likely to get beaten up in a Helsinki bar for acting like an ugly American.

    So- tight young skin? Yeah. Pretty smile? Yeah. Full, sensuous lips? I guess. But what makes me go (momentarily) weak in the knees for Rep. Omar is here is a woman given enormous personal political power and she is NOT using it to undermine HER OWN culture, NOT using it to undermine HER OWN religion, NOT using it to undermine HER OWN menfolk. She is fighting heroically for HER OWN (HER OWN just happens not to be MY OWN). (Momentary) Swoon.

    Replies: @anon

    Jews fight heroically for their people, they just use behind the scenes methods to do so, because it is much more effective.
    Black politicians are simply too corrupt to be effective, but mob rule and the terror of rape, robbery and murder are enormously effective.

  378. @Tyrion 2
    @Mr. Anon

    I'm not bright, you're just dumb.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    No, I’m pretty smart. Certainly a lot smarter than you, manlet.

    • LOL: Tyrion 2
  379. @Anonymous
    @Tex


    But, if you own a media empire and a hard-nosed appreciation for the who-whom question, myths are just another machine to be used.
     
    What do you mean?

    Replies: @Tex

    Myths are good raw material for propaganda. People with an agenda tend to produce propaganda, not objective news. The tiny number of multi-millionaires who own most of the media, traditional or otherwise, and the people who work for them observably produce lots of propaganda with an agenda.

  380. Steve, about that “coalition of the margins”, A French Think Tank theorized it years ago, in 2011.
    It is called “Left: what electoral majority for 2012?”, and written by Terra Nova, a left of the center Think Tank (Strauss-Kahn, Hillary…).

    http://tnova.fr/rapports/gauche-quelle-majorite-electorale-pour-2012

    I have google translated for you the most important extracts.

    the abstract :
    Everywhere in Europe, as in other forms in North America, social democracy
    is in crisis. There are ideological reasons for that, of course. But also reasons
    sociological questions: the historical coalition of the left, centered on the working class, is in
    decline. A new coalition emerges: the “France of tomorrow”, younger, more diverse,
    more feminized, more graduate, urban and less Catholic. A progressive electorate on the plane
    cultural. A population of “outsiders” at the socio-economic level, a variable of adjustment face
    to the crisis of a society that has decided to sacrifice new entrants to protect the
    “Insiders”, and who needs the public power to break the glass ceiling. he
    constitutes the new “natural” electorate of the left. In the process of structuring, it is not
    however not yet majority. In these conditions, what electoral strategy the left
    should she retain for 2012? (…)
    This electoral sociology exercise was conducted in parallel in nine countries, at the initiative of the
    Center for American Progress (USA) and Ideas Foundation (Spain): Germany,
    United Kingdom, France, Netherlands, Sweden, Hungary, Australia, Canada, United States. In all
    these countries, the diagnosis is identical: the historic class coalition is fading away, a new
    coalition emerges – with the same sociological components. France is not a case
    isolated: the left, in Europe and throughout the western world, evolves in concert.

    Core content :
    THE END OF THE WORKERS COALITION
    Around this working heart was formed a
    class coalition: the working classes (workers, employees) and intermediate categories
    (the middle managers).
    This historic base of the left is shirking today, from a double movement…
    First, the shrinking demographic of the working class…
    Second movement: the workers vote less and less on the left…

    THE ORIGIN OF DIVORCE: A CHANGE OF VALUES
    From the end of the 1970s, the break will be on the cultural factor. May 68 a
    led the political left towards cultural liberalism: sexual freedom, contraception and
    abortion, questioning of the traditional family … This movement on the questions of
    society is strengthened over time to embody today in tolerance, openness
    differences, an attitude favorable to immigrants, to Islam, to homosexuality, solidarity with the poorest. In parallel, the workers go the other way. The decline of
    the working class – rising unemployment, precariousness, loss of collective identity and
    class pride, life difficulties in some neighborhoods – gives rise to fallback reactions:
    against immigrants, against the assisted, against the loss of moral values ​​and disorders of
    contemporary society.

    THE NEW ELECTORATE OF THE LEFT: THE FRANCE OF TOMORROW
    If the historical coalition of the left is in decline, a new coalition emerges. Her
    sociology is very different :
    1. Graduates (people with diploma)…
    2. Young…
    3. Minorities. France’s diversity is
    almost completely left. Self-positioning of individuals reveals an alignment of
    French of immigrant origin, and even more of the second generation, left – order
    from 80-20. Scores of this magnitude are found in neighborhood polling stations
    popular, and still 62-38 in sensitive urban areas.
    4. Women
    The new coalition of the left has nothing to do with the historic coalition: only the
    young people belong to both. The identity of the historical coalition was to be found in the
    class logic, the current reorganization is structured around the report in the future. The
    new left has the face of the France of tomorrow: younger, more feminine, more diverse,
    more graduate, but also more urban1
    and less catholic. She is in phase with the left
    policy on all of its values

    The new left that emerges in France is the same one that emerges everywhere in
    Europe. It closely resembles the coalition that brought Barack Obama to power in 2008.
    With a difference of importance: it is not the majority.

    The new electoral coalition of the left presents three structural weaknesses:
     Limited demographic dynamics (…)

    The electorate “France of tomorrow” is the new central mole from which the left must
    radiate to constitute a majority. The electorate to conquer – the middle electorate – is
    divided into two: middle classes and lower classes. The “France of tomorrow” coalition
    already partially integrates and must seek to expand to both. But the strategy is not the same
    depending on whether we target the lower classes or the middle classes…

    THE ADDITIONAL STRATEGY WITH POPULAR CLASSES
    This is the natural temptation of the left, which can not be solved, for historical reasons,
    to lose the popular classes. The left must therefore focus its campaign on priorities
    economic and social, where they are in phase, and to forget his cultural convictions,
    especially on immigration and Islam. (…)

    But it’s a difficult strategy. It goes against the tide: trends are tipping
    popular classes right…

    However, it is possible to identify within the lower classes more subcategories
    easy to hang up on the left. There are first the precarious, the unemployed, the excluded: those
    70% vote to the left – the problem of the left is with the working classes at the
    who are on permanent contracts but are afraid of downgrading. Then there are the young workers:
    they are of foreign origin (Maghreb) and therefore sensitive to cultural issues related to
    immigration and integration, but they are very few in this period of
    accelerated deindustrialization. There are especially the employees. It is the opposite of a quota
    very important election (77% of employees are women, ie 5.8 million voters).
    They vote abnormally right…

    MINORITIES
    At the heart of these popular neighborhoods, there are the French of diversity. Self-positioning
    individuals, surveyed in a survey whose results are presented below, 21 reveals a
    very strong alignment of French immigrants and their children on the left. The report of
    left-right forces are extreme, of the order of 80-20 or even 90-10. It is true that
    the national origin. It is the most massive for French people of African descent (both Sub-Saharan and Maghreb) and is clearly stronger for the second generation compared to
    the first (of the order of 10 points). The only exception is the first generation of origin
    Asian, which remains polarized on the right by anticommunism.

    The population of French people with an immigrant background is growing in population and
    identity mutation:

    In the hypothesis of an identical continuation, it is between 500.000 and
    750,000 new voters, naturalized French between 2007 and 2012, who
    will be able to participate in the next presidential election without being able to participate
    to the previous one.
     Of these, about 300,000 will be children of immigrants born and living in
    La France. In the early 2000s, 2.3 million people aged 0 to 65 were born and
    living in France had two immigrant parents or one known immigrant parent (5%
    between them) ; 1 million of them were children or adolescents under 17
    years26.
    About 300,000 had reached the majority, acquired French nationality and the right to
    in 200727. An additional 300,000 individuals are expected to become adults and
    able to vote in 2012.
     Today, 6 to 7% of French people are Muslims and 23% of French people have at least one
    immigrant parent.
     The number of children born to a foreign mother is also renewed
    growing. At the same time relative to the total number of newborns: “in 2006, children
    foreign mothers account for 12.0% of all births. It’s a little
    less than in 2005 (12.4%) but a slight increase over the past ten years: in 1996, this
    proportion reached 9.6% . And in absolute terms: more than 100,000 children are born of
    foreign mother in 2008, a historic record, which goes hand in hand with the highest number of
    births since 1981. Diversification of the electorate by naturalization of children
    born and living in France will continue.
     To these naturalized voters since born and living in France must be added the French
    naturalized born abroad. Their share in the French population has also increased,
    from 2.15% in 1982 to 2.67% in 2004 (1.940.000).
     These new voters, French nationals of immigrant origin and children of immigrants, are
    different from those who, now elderly, are beginning to leave the electorate for cause
    deaths: they are no longer predominantly from European and Catholic countries (Italy,
    Spain, Poland, …), but from countries in the Maghreb and Africa, often Muslim. They
    are therefore more sensitive to issues of identity and discrimination. The graphic
    below, which presents the age structure of direct descendants of immigrants according to the
    country of origin of the parents, allows to account for the current evolution:
    This trend is likely to increase in the future: in 2004-2005, registered immigrants
    come a little less from Portugal, Italy and Spain than in 1999, and a little more
    from Algeria, Morocco, Turkey and Tunisia:
    This is an important political fact: the France of diversity is today the component of the
    more dynamic, both electorally and demographically, from the left in France.

    NON CATHOLICS
    The more one is a practicing Catholic, the more one is inclined to vote on the right, the more one is a-religious,
    the more one is inclined to vote on the left. Strongly structuring on both value factors,
    social and cultural, religion remains, today as in the past, a marker
    political positioning invariant ,.
    Beyond the non-religious, it is also all non-Catholics, especially individuals
    of “other religions”, 80% Muslim, who are more likely to vote in
    left.
    In these conditions, demographic dynamics are very favorable to
    left: as shown in the graph below, the “without religion” are
    now as numerous as Catholics, regular practitioners and
    occasional meeting. The generational renewal will come little by little
    These trends are confirmed by the decline in the number of baptisms and
    age marking of religious practice.

    An unavoidable course of action for the left is to lean against its new electorate
    “Natural”: young people, minorities and neighborhoods, women, graduates.
    It is the electorate “France of tomorrow” which is at the heart of the vote of the left, it is he who must
    become the driving force behind the constitution of the new electoral majority of the left.

    Minorities already vote heavily on the left, it will be difficult to improve the score. For this
    electorate, the strategic goal is to improve participation.

    Women, on the other hand, have great potential.

    ANNEXES

    On Germany

    IDEOLOGICAL TENSIONS
    Thilo Sarrazin broke a taboo by posing against the Turks, Arabs and Africans,
    generalizing and asserting that the intelligence of the German people is brought
    to decrease due to the increase of the Muslim population. His expulsion from the SPD
    considered a time is now given to the closet: he sold 1 million copies of
    his work, and 80% of SPD activists approve his positions.
     Strategic option: Is it necessary to say that immigration is a solution or a problem? There is
    the problem of education, the problem of city politics and cohabitations
    ethnic.
    Should we talk about Europe and to say what?  Identify common projects

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Xavier B

    A new coalition emerges: the “France of tomorrow”, younger, more diverse,
    more feminized,

    It's interesting that it is widely assumed that racial diversity automatically leads to feminism, even though cultures such as Somalia and Puerto Rico are quite male chauvinist. My guess is that it this is due to diverse males, such as Somalis and Puerto Ricans, being less competent.

    , @Steve Sailer
    @Xavier B

    A new coalition emerges: the “France of tomorrow”, younger, more diverse,
    more feminized,

    It's interesting that it is widely assumed that racial diversity automatically leads to feminism, even though cultures such as Somalia and Puerto Rico are quite male chauvinist. My guess is that it this is due to diverse males, such as Somalis and Puerto Ricans, being less competent.

  381. @Xavier B
    Steve, about that "coalition of the margins", A French Think Tank theorized it years ago, in 2011.
    It is called "Left: what electoral majority for 2012?", and written by Terra Nova, a left of the center Think Tank (Strauss-Kahn, Hillary...).

    http://tnova.fr/rapports/gauche-quelle-majorite-electorale-pour-2012

    I have google translated for you the most important extracts.

    the abstract :
    Everywhere in Europe, as in other forms in North America, social democracy
    is in crisis. There are ideological reasons for that, of course. But also reasons
    sociological questions: the historical coalition of the left, centered on the working class, is in
    decline. A new coalition emerges: the "France of tomorrow", younger, more diverse,
    more feminized, more graduate, urban and less Catholic. A progressive electorate on the plane
    cultural. A population of "outsiders" at the socio-economic level, a variable of adjustment face
    to the crisis of a society that has decided to sacrifice new entrants to protect the
    "Insiders", and who needs the public power to break the glass ceiling. he
    constitutes the new "natural" electorate of the left. In the process of structuring, it is not
    however not yet majority. In these conditions, what electoral strategy the left
    should she retain for 2012? (...)
    This electoral sociology exercise was conducted in parallel in nine countries, at the initiative of the
    Center for American Progress (USA) and Ideas Foundation (Spain): Germany,
    United Kingdom, France, Netherlands, Sweden, Hungary, Australia, Canada, United States. In all
    these countries, the diagnosis is identical: the historic class coalition is fading away, a new
    coalition emerges - with the same sociological components. France is not a case
    isolated: the left, in Europe and throughout the western world, evolves in concert.

    Core content :
    THE END OF THE WORKERS COALITION
    Around this working heart was formed a
    class coalition: the working classes (workers, employees) and intermediate categories
    (the middle managers).
    This historic base of the left is shirking today, from a double movement...
    First, the shrinking demographic of the working class...
    Second movement: the workers vote less and less on the left...

    THE ORIGIN OF DIVORCE: A CHANGE OF VALUES
    From the end of the 1970s, the break will be on the cultural factor. May 68 a
    led the political left towards cultural liberalism: sexual freedom, contraception and
    abortion, questioning of the traditional family ... This movement on the questions of
    society is strengthened over time to embody today in tolerance, openness
    differences, an attitude favorable to immigrants, to Islam, to homosexuality, solidarity with the poorest. In parallel, the workers go the other way. The decline of
    the working class - rising unemployment, precariousness, loss of collective identity and
    class pride, life difficulties in some neighborhoods - gives rise to fallback reactions:
    against immigrants, against the assisted, against the loss of moral values ​​and disorders of
    contemporary society.

    THE NEW ELECTORATE OF THE LEFT: THE FRANCE OF TOMORROW
    If the historical coalition of the left is in decline, a new coalition emerges. Her
    sociology is very different :
    1. Graduates (people with diploma)...
    2. Young...
    3. Minorities. France's diversity is
    almost completely left. Self-positioning of individuals reveals an alignment of
    French of immigrant origin, and even more of the second generation, left - order
    from 80-20. Scores of this magnitude are found in neighborhood polling stations
    popular, and still 62-38 in sensitive urban areas.
    4. Women
    The new coalition of the left has nothing to do with the historic coalition: only the
    young people belong to both. The identity of the historical coalition was to be found in the
    class logic, the current reorganization is structured around the report in the future. The
    new left has the face of the France of tomorrow: younger, more feminine, more diverse,
    more graduate, but also more urban1
    and less catholic. She is in phase with the left
    policy on all of its values

    The new left that emerges in France is the same one that emerges everywhere in
    Europe. It closely resembles the coalition that brought Barack Obama to power in 2008.
    With a difference of importance: it is not the majority.

    The new electoral coalition of the left presents three structural weaknesses:
     Limited demographic dynamics (...)

    The electorate "France of tomorrow" is the new central mole from which the left must
    radiate to constitute a majority. The electorate to conquer - the middle electorate - is
    divided into two: middle classes and lower classes. The "France of tomorrow" coalition
    already partially integrates and must seek to expand to both. But the strategy is not the same
    depending on whether we target the lower classes or the middle classes...

    THE ADDITIONAL STRATEGY WITH POPULAR CLASSES
    This is the natural temptation of the left, which can not be solved, for historical reasons,
    to lose the popular classes. The left must therefore focus its campaign on priorities
    economic and social, where they are in phase, and to forget his cultural convictions,
    especially on immigration and Islam. (...)

    But it's a difficult strategy. It goes against the tide: trends are tipping
    popular classes right...

    However, it is possible to identify within the lower classes more subcategories
    easy to hang up on the left. There are first the precarious, the unemployed, the excluded: those
    70% vote to the left - the problem of the left is with the working classes at the
    who are on permanent contracts but are afraid of downgrading. Then there are the young workers:
    they are of foreign origin (Maghreb) and therefore sensitive to cultural issues related to
    immigration and integration, but they are very few in this period of
    accelerated deindustrialization. There are especially the employees. It is the opposite of a quota
    very important election (77% of employees are women, ie 5.8 million voters).
    They vote abnormally right...

    MINORITIES
    At the heart of these popular neighborhoods, there are the French of diversity. Self-positioning
    individuals, surveyed in a survey whose results are presented below, 21 reveals a
    very strong alignment of French immigrants and their children on the left. The report of
    left-right forces are extreme, of the order of 80-20 or even 90-10. It is true that
    the national origin. It is the most massive for French people of African descent (both Sub-Saharan and Maghreb) and is clearly stronger for the second generation compared to
    the first (of the order of 10 points). The only exception is the first generation of origin
    Asian, which remains polarized on the right by anticommunism.

    The population of French people with an immigrant background is growing in population and
    identity mutation:

    In the hypothesis of an identical continuation, it is between 500.000 and
    750,000 new voters, naturalized French between 2007 and 2012, who
    will be able to participate in the next presidential election without being able to participate
    to the previous one.
     Of these, about 300,000 will be children of immigrants born and living in
    La France. In the early 2000s, 2.3 million people aged 0 to 65 were born and
    living in France had two immigrant parents or one known immigrant parent (5%
    between them) ; 1 million of them were children or adolescents under 17
    years26.
    About 300,000 had reached the majority, acquired French nationality and the right to
    in 200727. An additional 300,000 individuals are expected to become adults and
    able to vote in 2012.
     Today, 6 to 7% of French people are Muslims and 23% of French people have at least one
    immigrant parent.
     The number of children born to a foreign mother is also renewed
    growing. At the same time relative to the total number of newborns: "in 2006, children
    foreign mothers account for 12.0% of all births. It's a little
    less than in 2005 (12.4%) but a slight increase over the past ten years: in 1996, this
    proportion reached 9.6% . And in absolute terms: more than 100,000 children are born of
    foreign mother in 2008, a historic record, which goes hand in hand with the highest number of
    births since 1981. Diversification of the electorate by naturalization of children
    born and living in France will continue.
     To these naturalized voters since born and living in France must be added the French
    naturalized born abroad. Their share in the French population has also increased,
    from 2.15% in 1982 to 2.67% in 2004 (1.940.000).
     These new voters, French nationals of immigrant origin and children of immigrants, are
    different from those who, now elderly, are beginning to leave the electorate for cause
    deaths: they are no longer predominantly from European and Catholic countries (Italy,
    Spain, Poland, ...), but from countries in the Maghreb and Africa, often Muslim. They
    are therefore more sensitive to issues of identity and discrimination. The graphic
    below, which presents the age structure of direct descendants of immigrants according to the
    country of origin of the parents, allows to account for the current evolution:
    This trend is likely to increase in the future: in 2004-2005, registered immigrants
    come a little less from Portugal, Italy and Spain than in 1999, and a little more
    from Algeria, Morocco, Turkey and Tunisia:
    This is an important political fact: the France of diversity is today the component of the
    more dynamic, both electorally and demographically, from the left in France.

    NON CATHOLICS
    The more one is a practicing Catholic, the more one is inclined to vote on the right, the more one is a-religious,
    the more one is inclined to vote on the left. Strongly structuring on both value factors,
    social and cultural, religion remains, today as in the past, a marker
    political positioning invariant ,.
    Beyond the non-religious, it is also all non-Catholics, especially individuals
    of "other religions", 80% Muslim, who are more likely to vote in
    left.
    In these conditions, demographic dynamics are very favorable to
    left: as shown in the graph below, the "without religion" are
    now as numerous as Catholics, regular practitioners and
    occasional meeting. The generational renewal will come little by little
    These trends are confirmed by the decline in the number of baptisms and
    age marking of religious practice.

    An unavoidable course of action for the left is to lean against its new electorate
    "Natural": young people, minorities and neighborhoods, women, graduates.
    It is the electorate "France of tomorrow" which is at the heart of the vote of the left, it is he who must
    become the driving force behind the constitution of the new electoral majority of the left.

    Minorities already vote heavily on the left, it will be difficult to improve the score. For this
    electorate, the strategic goal is to improve participation.

    Women, on the other hand, have great potential.

    ANNEXES

    On Germany

    IDEOLOGICAL TENSIONS
    Thilo Sarrazin broke a taboo by posing against the Turks, Arabs and Africans,
    generalizing and asserting that the intelligence of the German people is brought
    to decrease due to the increase of the Muslim population. His expulsion from the SPD
    considered a time is now given to the closet: he sold 1 million copies of
    his work, and 80% of SPD activists approve his positions.
     Strategic option: Is it necessary to say that immigration is a solution or a problem? There is
    the problem of education, the problem of city politics and cohabitations
    ethnic.
    Should we talk about Europe and to say what?  Identify common projects

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer

    A new coalition emerges: the “France of tomorrow”, younger, more diverse,
    more feminized,

    It’s interesting that it is widely assumed that racial diversity automatically leads to feminism, even though cultures such as Somalia and Puerto Rico are quite male chauvinist. My guess is that it this is due to diverse males, such as Somalis and Puerto Ricans, being less competent.

  382. @Xavier B
    Steve, about that "coalition of the margins", A French Think Tank theorized it years ago, in 2011.
    It is called "Left: what electoral majority for 2012?", and written by Terra Nova, a left of the center Think Tank (Strauss-Kahn, Hillary...).

    http://tnova.fr/rapports/gauche-quelle-majorite-electorale-pour-2012

    I have google translated for you the most important extracts.

    the abstract :
    Everywhere in Europe, as in other forms in North America, social democracy
    is in crisis. There are ideological reasons for that, of course. But also reasons
    sociological questions: the historical coalition of the left, centered on the working class, is in
    decline. A new coalition emerges: the "France of tomorrow", younger, more diverse,
    more feminized, more graduate, urban and less Catholic. A progressive electorate on the plane
    cultural. A population of "outsiders" at the socio-economic level, a variable of adjustment face
    to the crisis of a society that has decided to sacrifice new entrants to protect the
    "Insiders", and who needs the public power to break the glass ceiling. he
    constitutes the new "natural" electorate of the left. In the process of structuring, it is not
    however not yet majority. In these conditions, what electoral strategy the left
    should she retain for 2012? (...)
    This electoral sociology exercise was conducted in parallel in nine countries, at the initiative of the
    Center for American Progress (USA) and Ideas Foundation (Spain): Germany,
    United Kingdom, France, Netherlands, Sweden, Hungary, Australia, Canada, United States. In all
    these countries, the diagnosis is identical: the historic class coalition is fading away, a new
    coalition emerges - with the same sociological components. France is not a case
    isolated: the left, in Europe and throughout the western world, evolves in concert.

    Core content :
    THE END OF THE WORKERS COALITION
    Around this working heart was formed a
    class coalition: the working classes (workers, employees) and intermediate categories
    (the middle managers).
    This historic base of the left is shirking today, from a double movement...
    First, the shrinking demographic of the working class...
    Second movement: the workers vote less and less on the left...

    THE ORIGIN OF DIVORCE: A CHANGE OF VALUES
    From the end of the 1970s, the break will be on the cultural factor. May 68 a
    led the political left towards cultural liberalism: sexual freedom, contraception and
    abortion, questioning of the traditional family ... This movement on the questions of
    society is strengthened over time to embody today in tolerance, openness
    differences, an attitude favorable to immigrants, to Islam, to homosexuality, solidarity with the poorest. In parallel, the workers go the other way. The decline of
    the working class - rising unemployment, precariousness, loss of collective identity and
    class pride, life difficulties in some neighborhoods - gives rise to fallback reactions:
    against immigrants, against the assisted, against the loss of moral values ​​and disorders of
    contemporary society.

    THE NEW ELECTORATE OF THE LEFT: THE FRANCE OF TOMORROW
    If the historical coalition of the left is in decline, a new coalition emerges. Her
    sociology is very different :
    1. Graduates (people with diploma)...
    2. Young...
    3. Minorities. France's diversity is
    almost completely left. Self-positioning of individuals reveals an alignment of
    French of immigrant origin, and even more of the second generation, left - order
    from 80-20. Scores of this magnitude are found in neighborhood polling stations
    popular, and still 62-38 in sensitive urban areas.
    4. Women
    The new coalition of the left has nothing to do with the historic coalition: only the
    young people belong to both. The identity of the historical coalition was to be found in the
    class logic, the current reorganization is structured around the report in the future. The
    new left has the face of the France of tomorrow: younger, more feminine, more diverse,
    more graduate, but also more urban1
    and less catholic. She is in phase with the left
    policy on all of its values

    The new left that emerges in France is the same one that emerges everywhere in
    Europe. It closely resembles the coalition that brought Barack Obama to power in 2008.
    With a difference of importance: it is not the majority.

    The new electoral coalition of the left presents three structural weaknesses:
     Limited demographic dynamics (...)

    The electorate "France of tomorrow" is the new central mole from which the left must
    radiate to constitute a majority. The electorate to conquer - the middle electorate - is
    divided into two: middle classes and lower classes. The "France of tomorrow" coalition
    already partially integrates and must seek to expand to both. But the strategy is not the same
    depending on whether we target the lower classes or the middle classes...

    THE ADDITIONAL STRATEGY WITH POPULAR CLASSES
    This is the natural temptation of the left, which can not be solved, for historical reasons,
    to lose the popular classes. The left must therefore focus its campaign on priorities
    economic and social, where they are in phase, and to forget his cultural convictions,
    especially on immigration and Islam. (...)

    But it's a difficult strategy. It goes against the tide: trends are tipping
    popular classes right...

    However, it is possible to identify within the lower classes more subcategories
    easy to hang up on the left. There are first the precarious, the unemployed, the excluded: those
    70% vote to the left - the problem of the left is with the working classes at the
    who are on permanent contracts but are afraid of downgrading. Then there are the young workers:
    they are of foreign origin (Maghreb) and therefore sensitive to cultural issues related to
    immigration and integration, but they are very few in this period of
    accelerated deindustrialization. There are especially the employees. It is the opposite of a quota
    very important election (77% of employees are women, ie 5.8 million voters).
    They vote abnormally right...

    MINORITIES
    At the heart of these popular neighborhoods, there are the French of diversity. Self-positioning
    individuals, surveyed in a survey whose results are presented below, 21 reveals a
    very strong alignment of French immigrants and their children on the left. The report of
    left-right forces are extreme, of the order of 80-20 or even 90-10. It is true that
    the national origin. It is the most massive for French people of African descent (both Sub-Saharan and Maghreb) and is clearly stronger for the second generation compared to
    the first (of the order of 10 points). The only exception is the first generation of origin
    Asian, which remains polarized on the right by anticommunism.

    The population of French people with an immigrant background is growing in population and
    identity mutation:

    In the hypothesis of an identical continuation, it is between 500.000 and
    750,000 new voters, naturalized French between 2007 and 2012, who
    will be able to participate in the next presidential election without being able to participate
    to the previous one.
     Of these, about 300,000 will be children of immigrants born and living in
    La France. In the early 2000s, 2.3 million people aged 0 to 65 were born and
    living in France had two immigrant parents or one known immigrant parent (5%
    between them) ; 1 million of them were children or adolescents under 17
    years26.
    About 300,000 had reached the majority, acquired French nationality and the right to
    in 200727. An additional 300,000 individuals are expected to become adults and
    able to vote in 2012.
     Today, 6 to 7% of French people are Muslims and 23% of French people have at least one
    immigrant parent.
     The number of children born to a foreign mother is also renewed
    growing. At the same time relative to the total number of newborns: "in 2006, children
    foreign mothers account for 12.0% of all births. It's a little
    less than in 2005 (12.4%) but a slight increase over the past ten years: in 1996, this
    proportion reached 9.6% . And in absolute terms: more than 100,000 children are born of
    foreign mother in 2008, a historic record, which goes hand in hand with the highest number of
    births since 1981. Diversification of the electorate by naturalization of children
    born and living in France will continue.
     To these naturalized voters since born and living in France must be added the French
    naturalized born abroad. Their share in the French population has also increased,
    from 2.15% in 1982 to 2.67% in 2004 (1.940.000).
     These new voters, French nationals of immigrant origin and children of immigrants, are
    different from those who, now elderly, are beginning to leave the electorate for cause
    deaths: they are no longer predominantly from European and Catholic countries (Italy,
    Spain, Poland, ...), but from countries in the Maghreb and Africa, often Muslim. They
    are therefore more sensitive to issues of identity and discrimination. The graphic
    below, which presents the age structure of direct descendants of immigrants according to the
    country of origin of the parents, allows to account for the current evolution:
    This trend is likely to increase in the future: in 2004-2005, registered immigrants
    come a little less from Portugal, Italy and Spain than in 1999, and a little more
    from Algeria, Morocco, Turkey and Tunisia:
    This is an important political fact: the France of diversity is today the component of the
    more dynamic, both electorally and demographically, from the left in France.

    NON CATHOLICS
    The more one is a practicing Catholic, the more one is inclined to vote on the right, the more one is a-religious,
    the more one is inclined to vote on the left. Strongly structuring on both value factors,
    social and cultural, religion remains, today as in the past, a marker
    political positioning invariant ,.
    Beyond the non-religious, it is also all non-Catholics, especially individuals
    of "other religions", 80% Muslim, who are more likely to vote in
    left.
    In these conditions, demographic dynamics are very favorable to
    left: as shown in the graph below, the "without religion" are
    now as numerous as Catholics, regular practitioners and
    occasional meeting. The generational renewal will come little by little
    These trends are confirmed by the decline in the number of baptisms and
    age marking of religious practice.

    An unavoidable course of action for the left is to lean against its new electorate
    "Natural": young people, minorities and neighborhoods, women, graduates.
    It is the electorate "France of tomorrow" which is at the heart of the vote of the left, it is he who must
    become the driving force behind the constitution of the new electoral majority of the left.

    Minorities already vote heavily on the left, it will be difficult to improve the score. For this
    electorate, the strategic goal is to improve participation.

    Women, on the other hand, have great potential.

    ANNEXES

    On Germany

    IDEOLOGICAL TENSIONS
    Thilo Sarrazin broke a taboo by posing against the Turks, Arabs and Africans,
    generalizing and asserting that the intelligence of the German people is brought
    to decrease due to the increase of the Muslim population. His expulsion from the SPD
    considered a time is now given to the closet: he sold 1 million copies of
    his work, and 80% of SPD activists approve his positions.
     Strategic option: Is it necessary to say that immigration is a solution or a problem? There is
    the problem of education, the problem of city politics and cohabitations
    ethnic.
    Should we talk about Europe and to say what?  Identify common projects

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Steve Sailer

    A new coalition emerges: the “France of tomorrow”, younger, more diverse,
    more feminized,

    It’s interesting that it is widely assumed that racial diversity automatically leads to feminism, even though cultures such as Somalia and Puerto Rico are quite male chauvinist. My guess is that it this is due to diverse males, such as Somalis and Puerto Ricans, being less competent.

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