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From the BBC:

Rural racism in Dorset: Why is our countryside 98% white?

Because whites are indigenous to rural Dorsetshire and nonwhites are not?

But to the post-George Floyd British mind, that sounds pretty racist.

Published1 day ago

The death of George Floyd and the subsequent Black Lives Matter protests may have seemed a distant reality to many people in Dorset.

In the predominantly rural county, the population is 97.9% white.

But, as some the 2.1% who do not identify as white can testify, racism can be just as much of a problem in the countryside as it is in our cities.

Jag Patel moved to Gillingham 18 years ago with his wife where they bought a newspaper shop and started a family. …

“What’s difficult is when people come into the shop and they quite clearly have ‘a face’ at you.”

Criminologist and co-author of Rural Racism, Prof Neil Chakraborty, describes that “face” as “covert racism” and says victims are often left unsure if what they are experiencing is discrimination.

Professor Chakraborty says persistent staring is one example of covert racism …

“Persistent staring, constant reminders from neighbours who say, ‘we don’t see many like you around here’.”

Prof Chakraborty said the “vast majority” of people who had moved from a city said they had encountered more racism in rural areas than they had in the city.

Louisa Adjoa Parker, a writer and poet of English and Ghanaian heritage, was born and raised in the UK and has lived in Devon and Dorset since she was a child – but seemingly innocent comments from others are a reminder that she is seen by some as an outsider. …

“It gives you that feeling of, ‘oh, OK, people don’t see me as belonging here because of the colour of my skin and the texture of my hair’. …

Ms Parker said it was to be expected that some people in rural areas had stereotypes in their minds, adding that such comments were rarely borne of any malice.

“I think there’s this idea that a racist is a bad person, but I think good people can also have racist beliefs, unconscious bias, stereotypes in their mind, and that’s understandable, particularly in the west country because we don’t have these conversations very much.

“We don’t have large numbers of people from ethnic backgrounds who are non-white British so it often does stem from ignorance.

“When you walk into a room and you are the only person of colour, you stand out, you look different, you can’t blend into the landscape around you, but really you just feel like everyone else – I’m British.”

But not English.

… And while Dorset’s rural idyll might seem a million miles away from the protests that spread across the US and the UK last summer, Ms Parker claims they might have more to do with the history of the county than we realise.

“If we see a black African-American man being killed at the hands of the police in America, it might feel as though that’s got nothing to do with us, nothing to do with Dorset,” she said.

“But actually it was white men from Dorset and the west country who left the area, travelled around the world, colonised other countries, set up plantations, enslaving people, and they were some of the first people instrumental in setting up the systems of white supremacy that we see today.

“With all these conversations going on in the media about race, Meghan Markel and Black Lives Matter, I think it is quite easy to educate yourself, there are lots of resources out there.”

The project of the 21st Century is to dispossess whites of the very nice countries they have built, so the fact that whites are indigenous to rural England seems like a racist conspiracy to the dispossessors. The slightest resistance, such as staring, must be crushed.

 
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  1. Stealth says:

    Seeing as how nothing will be done to halt the descent of the western world, why am I reading this? For that matter, why are columnists and bloggers making things worse by pissing off the bad guys?

  2. anonymous[344] • Disclaimer says:

    “But actually it was white men from Dorset and the west country who left the area, travelled around the world, colonised other countries, set up plantations, enslaving people, and they were some of the first people instrumental in setting up the systems of white supremacy that we see today.

    1/3 of the passengers on the Mayflower were not Puritans from Leiden but random folk from the West Country. It wouldn’t take long before the pilgrims committed genocide against the Pequot, the first of many Native American groups annihilated by West Country settlers.

  3. Abolish the license tax (BBC’s life blood).

  4. This is clarifying. Finally, the right will have to make a case for the continued existence of the founding/core populations of their home countries without resorting to disingenuous appeals to the impact on nonwhites (“Blacks are the biggest victims of affirmative action”, etc.).

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @guest
  5. Well, we know who’s getting cast in the next version of Return of the Native.

  6. anonymous[310] • Disclaimer says:

    Let’s have the British Raj back. Anything less is anti-immigrant and racist.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
  7. Mike Tre says:

    Their genocidal intentions become more openly apparent every day.

    White Europeans cannot expect to have any land to themselves.

    • Agree: Ben tillman
    • Replies: @Hannah Katz
    , @1John
  8. Be careful what you wish for Dorset.

    The price of diversity is rape, murder and mayhem.

    God Bless Enoch Powell.

    • Agree: Bubba
  9. Muggles says:

    Have they checked out rural Kenya yet? Or Uganda? Nigeria?

    The BBC has an entire continent that likely “lacks diversity” in most rural areas.

    Another BBC News Flash:

    Sun Continues to Rise from the East! Geographic Non Diversity Racism Suspected! Solar Apologists Suspiciously Silent!

    • Agree: Almost Missouri
    • Thanks: Seneca44
    • LOL: Buffalo Joe
  10. I just want to note that it will be more fair, logical, and ultimately constructive to blame the policies that allow for mass-immigration, as opposed to the immigrants themselves, much less the descendants of those same immigrants. A 2nd-generation Ghanaian-British quite literally did not choose where to be born. Does this mean that their presence is not a hindrance on the existing, indigenous population? Of course not. But it also doesn’t mean that they chose to be there.

    Natives blaming immigrants is what the elites want. It’s just a form of dividing labor against itself.

  11. Criminologist and co-author of Rural Racism, Prof Neil Chakraborty, describes that “face” as “covert racism” and says victims are often left unsure if what they are experiencing is discrimination.

    If ambiguity is a bad thing, maybe overt racism should make roaring comeback.

  12. syonredux says:

    Sure-fire solution for solving Dorset’s Whiteness problem: Import a few million African Blacks and make ’em live in Dorset.

    “When you walk into a room and you are the only person of colour, you stand out, you look different, you can’t blend into the landscape around you, but really you just feel like everyone else – I’m British.”

    But not English.

    Yeah. I know a few South Asian UK academics who were born and raised in England. They always describe themselves as British, never as English.

    • Replies: @Barnard
  13. Matttt says:

    Criminologist and co-author of Rural Racism, Prof Neil Chakraborty, describes that “face” as “covert racism” and says victims are often left unsure if what they are experiencing is discrimination.

    It must be hard on high-caste Indians and Africans, used to deference from the lower castes, when normal white people treat them as equals. It must be even worse when they realize that white people are just humoring them. They’re not equals. The English conquered the world; Africans and Indians still haven’t figured out toilets.

    • Agree: ThreeCranes, Rob McX
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @ThreeCranes
  14. Anon[162] • Disclaimer says:

    At the time I moved to Japan, decades ago, even in Tokyo whites got noticed, and in residential neighborhoods of Tokyo kids would say “Hello” in English to you without fail. And in rural areas everyone noticed you and said whatever popped into their heads (in Japanese for adults). I guess I felt a bit self-conscious, but not in a bad way.

    The worst thing then, and even now, is passing a white person and deciding whether to acknowledge him. I tend to ignore black guys (and they are always guys), since they tend to be from Africa and are I suspect always working some angle. I have nothing in common with them anyway.

    Mormon missionaries used to embarrass me, but I changed my mind and started to say a few words to them. They picked up that I didn’t want to hear their pitch, so we got along. I more and more admire Mormons in general.

    Nowadays I notice that store clerks of all ages everywhere expect to have no problem speaking to you in Japanese, unlike the awkward first exchanges of the past.

    In general I realize that I’m in a tiny minority, I like it, and I don’t want it to change.

  15. This outstanding thread gets to the mood, and if anything understates the particulars:

    Must reading for anyone who thinks things are going back to “normal”. There’s some small chance they could in a particularly grotesque way if normal is a disengaged populace with low turnout that approximates a republic that only a donor could love.

    It would still be a massively squandered opportunity, and that’s about best case at this point. And that doesn’t even get into the tiers above Boomer….

  16. Flip says:

    “Hideously white” is the expression I’ve seen.

    When I go to an overwhelmingly black area in Chicago, I get strange looks too. Once I was walking by the former Cabrini Green housing project, and a black lady walked by and told me I was in the wrong place. I just smiled and kept walking.

  17. Thomm says:

    Well, Ray Dorset may have had ancestors from Dorset, and was obviously a Quadroon, even back in that era :

    Teen Wolf Four : Afro-Wolf

  18. Rob says:

    Sure-fire solution for solving Dorset’s Whiteness problem: Import a few million African Blacks and make ’em live in Dorset. Dorset’s Whiteness problem: Import a few million African Blacks and make ’em live in Dorset.

    Perhaps not planned specifically for Dorset, this in in the works, at least at the think tank and policy paper level. Attach residency requirements to immigrate. So, some 100,000 Ghanaians might be let in, but required to live and work in Indiana. For the economy.

    If you think about it, it is the only way forward. Not a lot of middle class white conservatives in NYC, so all those immigrants are wasted, just annoying each other and the GoodWhites. I am sure business and community leaders will have lots of input into these, to prevent things like housing costs from getting too low or labor prices too high – equity.

    Think you are going to work in the city, and raise kids someplace nice? They got you covered.

    • Thanks: John Milton’s Ghost
  19. Rob McX says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    This is clarifying. Finally, the right will have to make a case for the continued existence of the founding/core populations of their home countries without resorting to disingenuous appeals to the impact on nonwhites (“Blacks are the biggest victims of affirmative action”, etc.).

    There’s nothing more despicable than these mainstream conservatives too cowardly to speak for their own. When the last white people are chased down and killed, one of these cucks will leave a suicide note: “Whites extinct, women and minorities hardest hit”.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Harry Baldwin
  20. Rob McX says:
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    True. And it might as well, because these people are going to despise and hate us anyway, whether our “racism” is overt, covert, institutional, systemic, whatever.

  21. @Rob McX

    We’re not their own, and they’re something worse than cowards.

  22. Rural racism in Dorset: Why is our countryside 98% white?

    Giving an answer before asking a question is something we can all do in extremely offensive ways.

    Extreme race bigotry at the BBC: Why is our main newscaster always accusing white people of moral deficiencies?

  23. Whiskey says: • Website

    This is the fruit of the Civil Rights Movement and in particular King. Who argued that Whites are genetically evil and must be destroyed. It was also made by various anti-War and anti-nuke people, who held Whites uniquely guilty of being White for creating modern industrial society and the atomic bomb. Rich White women in particular like to LARP as non-Whites, and EAt Pray Love in various Third wold nations and then bring the third world home.

    Eventually, the attempt will be made to erase every bit of White people everywhere. This is not something that can be met by logic, or reason. or politics. Because the motivation is emotional and religious. White people are deemed genetically evil and so must be destroyed.

    I don’t want Whites to be loved. Thats for losers. I want Whites to be FEARED. And only raw, naked fear can cause the expression and will of these desires to be tamped down. They will always be there, and there is no help, hope, or remedy for those feelings. They just are because of biology and sentiment. But fear, fear is a wonderful thing. “Let them hate, so long as they fear.” We as Whites need to make ourselves feared. As we can never be loved. Nor should we want to be.

    • Agree: ThreeCranes
  24. Anonymous[223] • Disclaimer says:

    The project of the 21st Century is to dispossess whites of the very nice countries they have built

    What is more coveted, dispossessing Whites of their genome or dispossessing them of the things they built?

    There’s a genocidal aspect to all this that goes beyond merely wanting to share in White countries.

    • Agree: Ben tillman, sayless
  25. • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Anonymous
  26. usNthem says:

    “It gives you that feeling of oh, okay, people don’t see me as belonging here because of the colour of my skin or the texture of my my hair”. That’s because ms Parker, you don’t belong there. Sounds like Ghana is the place for you. Of course then you wouldn’t be interviewed by the bbc so you can complain about White racism and how men from Dorset traveled the world and were instrumental in setting up the systems of White supremacy we see today. No ms Parker, no one would give a s*** what some negro from Ghana thinks about anything and frankly, most people probably don’t give a s*** what some negro from Dorset, England has to say either.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  27. stuff like this is why cuckservative/muh classical liberal values types like Charles Murray or (especially) Claire Lehman with their recent ‘we must prevent the Ultimate Evil of white identity politics from becoming established in response to this’ style comments make me absolutely seethe – they’re even worse than the enemy.

    Yes the ‘white genocide’ is real – I’m sitting in the middle of it (being driven out of the cities and harried in all accidentally ‘white spaces’ such as the countryside or some sports (but never vice versa eg ‘sprinting is too black’, but football management is…), erasing our history, removing our statues, renaming roads and buildings, as-good-as-open doors immigration, heavy suppression of all dissent, all with the long-term effect of wiping us out in what was ‘our own land’, and clearly with some degree of deliberate coordination too)- no, ‘white identity’ isn’t the greater evil (to me, it’s not even an evil at all).

    • Agree: Ben tillman, Alden
    • Replies: @Rob McX
  28. Whiskey says: • Website
    @Desiderius

    No, things will not get back to normal. It will only accelerate from here. You can’t have the ruling class elite believe (and many of them be White hating blacks, Indians from India, etc) that Whites are genetically evil and not have it worked out in action.

    And on the other hand, there is no love, trust, respect, loyalty, none, for government. Nothing but contempt and hatred for corporations. And the media. And military leaders.

    Looks like the flag will be replaced with a Gay one. OK. they can do that. They can’t make people love it. The flag is going to burned by at least one Olympic Athlete on camera, in the Tokyo Olympics. And both Biden and Nike will salute the athlete. And reward them. Other athletes will turn their back on the Anthem. OK. That does not create national unity nor loyalty. OK, Corporate America will help demolish the Washington Monument, Mount Rushmore, the Lincoln and Jefferson Memorials. And replace them with George Floyd statues and carvings. OK, but they can’t make those loved and revered.

    The Washington Post is filled with Neocons urging Biden to hit back at Russia. His Regency will likely do so, and Putin at a minimum will turn off the power and water for half a year.

    Meanwhile there are a bunch of people in the Regency dreaming of Bill Ayer’s solution to Whiteness. As we enter another years long lockdown so we can have permanent mail in voting.

  29. It’s not just dispossession though. That would be simple theft. These are anti-White policies. Government policies of coercion that target the very DNA of White people.

    Even if Whites engage in White Flight, they are chased down and force integrated out of existence. That’s government policy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genocide_Convention

    • Agree: Hangnail Hans
  30. anon[143] • Disclaimer says:

    My mother told me I was English and I’m from New England, my pappy was Canadian French, (Great Grandparents spoke French, settled in New England) and Irish. No one I know ever said they were British.

    “If you are from England, as an English citizen you are English. If you are from any of the countries in the British Isles you are British. This means that only the English, from England as a citizen can be both English and British. If you are from Northern Ireland, you are British with the Northern Ireland culture.”
    https://www.google.com/search?q=brittish+vs+english&rlz=1CAHKDC_enUS961&oq=brittish+vs+english&aqs=chrome..69i57.6994j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

  31. Barnard says:
    @syonredux

    I believe John Derbyshire has said this and I know several other Englishmen have commented that they always referred to themselves as English and never or rarely British.

    Louisa Adjoa Parker wrote a book called “1944 We Were Here: African American GIs in Dorset.” I wonder if she includes any data on crime rates compared to prior years. How typical of the regime press, the activist who makes a living off promoting diversity is featured and her comments are normalized. The negative experiences any white residents of Dorset have had with diversity are ignored.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Bill Jones
  32. Mr. Anon says:

    Rural racism in the Generalgouvernement of Poland: Why is our countryside 98% slavic?

    Nowy Kurier Warszawski

  33. J1234 says:

    Why is our countryside 98% white?

    I watched the new All Creatures Great and Small series earlier this year with interest. In the first several episodes (the ones I saw, anyway) it seemed that the new series was portraying the population of rural northern England as the original series had decades ago (and as it likely was back in the 1930’s when the stories took place, i.e., white.)

    I’m guessing that all of that authenticity didn’t sit right with someone in television’s priestly class, however, because the last couple of episodes showed non-whites in bit roles, and more prominently, an elderly interracial Yorkshire couple who lived way out in the sticks. My wife, who has read all of the books, said no such couple appeared in Herriot’s original stories.

    The interracial couple received great quantities of smiling adoration and reverence from James and Helen as they visited while on rounds. No surprise there, as the couple treated each other much better than any of the all white married couples I saw in the series. The old black wife gave young Helen and James the kind of moral guidance that only old black wives can, and the two young people received the wisdom with great amazement, as if they’d just been addressed by Jesus. It was all very wonderful for the priestly class who oversees such things, I’m sure, but I’m curious as to how the more typical fans of the series reacted to that deviation – with indifference or annoyance?

    • Replies: @Barnard
    , @LP5
  34. J.Ross says:

    I will take English staring over Western Oriental Gentleman touching, bumping, pressing, personal space invasion, etc, any day of the week. Has Chakraborty commented on how England, once an island of nature-worshippers, has acquired a littering problem (“fly-tipping”) around the same time it acquired diversity? Maybe they’re staring because you’re dumping your trash everywhere.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  35. J.Ross says:
    @Desiderius

    Indeed, this is supposed to have been the gravest threat to democracy in all of history. Name names and prosecute.

  36. Altai says:

    I remember the ‘immigrant background’ economist in Sweden who got away with saying a lot of politically incorrect things on the basis of this identity.

    His most salient observation was simply that all of SJWism or identity politics it seemed to him to come back to always undermining the sense of ownership and control of Sweden by ethnic Swedes.

    The Englishman who came up with ‘Anywheres and Somewheres’, once disappointed me by dismissing the natives holding and owning a place or territory. When in fact, it’s the whole point of the phenomena he was talking about. In truth he knew this but was terrified of saying anything else and uttered it as a cope.

    If you can’t define who owns the country then politics of any kind other than something which trends towards as close to feudalism as possible is impossible. (At least under a democracy, a strong authoritarian regime that forces everyone to get along is the other option)

    Why can’t the people in Dorset be left alone? For the same reason the other Dorset people weren’t allowed to be left alone and look what happened to them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorset_culture

    • Agree: Polistra
    • Replies: @Altai
    , @Gabe Ruth
  37. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    “make a roaring comeback” dammit

    My original post would sound funny in a “bud bud ding ding” accent, however. 🙂

  38. anon[273] • Disclaimer says:

    This is not a dispossessionist mindset. This is an exterminationist mindset.

    • Agree: Rob McX
  39. The decline of dating.

    • Replies: @Thea
  40. Who knows? Oh I can think of some people.

    Anyone still concerned with earning public support even if you’ve given up on mere votes should consider the fact that people support those who answer such questions over those content to merely ask them. The first duty of a government is to protect the populace.

    Our existence isn’t hypothetical.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  41. Coconuts says:

    “But actually it was white men from Dorset and the west country who left the area, travelled around the world, colonised other countries, set up plantations, enslaving people, and they were some of the first people instrumental in setting up the systems of white supremacy that we see today.

    The people who are still living in rural England today are very likely to be descended from those Englishmen who were against leaving their local areas even to go to live in English cities. In this weird logic strong parochialism, localism and dislike of seeing foreigners because they are disturbing and different is elided into being one of the causes of the British Empire. High level tactical autism here.

  42. Criminologist and co-author of Rural Racism, Prof Neil Chakraborty, describes that “face” as “covert racism” and says victims are often left unsure if what they are experiencing is discrimination.

    Professor Chakraborty says persistent staring is one example of covert racism …

    Great news for Neil!

    There’s this place–West Bengal–with more people than the entire UK! … where he can go and not suffer the terrible indignity of being stared at. And believe it or not, he qualifies for immigrant visa. He can move and make a life there.

    (In fairness, a warning: Neil, if you go to the countryside there in West Bengal they may still stare at you and think “what an annoying yuppie twit”.)

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  43. Rob McX says:

    In the predominantly rural county, the population is 97.9% white.

    It must be a great place for race hustlers, then – there’s far less competition than they’d have to endure in London or Birmingham.

    • Agree: Triteleia Laxa, Polistra
  44. anon[176] • Disclaimer says:

    Enemies of whites have Western governments, medias, and schools.

    Eastern Europe and Russia are all whites have left. The remnant will flee there whether the Alt-right can accept that just now or not.

    The powers-that-be in the West would have to be overthrown to avert this fate.

  45. Normalized?

    Son, norms have been a bad word at Columbia since they got caught on the wrong side of the Revolutionary War. Gotta keep up with the College of New Jersey’s. And New Yawk has been separating rubes (in this case voters) from their money for a lot longer than that.

    Top. Schools.

    • Thanks: Triteleia Laxa
    • Replies: @anon
  46. Of course Dorset is mostly white, because it has no large cities, and is a pretty expensive county to live in.

    Immigrants to Britain have never gravitated towards areas where agricultural labor might be needed.

    By the way, Gillingham is in Kent, not far from London, and nowhere near Dorset.

  47. Screw each and ALL of them. Sorry you’re not white, very happy that I am.

  48. e.272 says:

    Declare Dorset a “reservation” and let the tribal leaders decide who qualifies to live there. Allow gambling and don’t disturb the ancient burial grounds.

    The leaders should be advised that the corrupt magistrates will steal the promised food supplies, so
    prepare accordingly.

    But the White man will not fight like an American Indian. He is too distant from the primitive. He has no sense of tribalism, is rife with traitors, and no other group fears him. So he will get nothing.

    Cheer me up. Tell me I’m wrong.

  49. SafeNow says:

    The opposite of staring is a too-brief period of eye contact, which includes manifesting a total absence of eye contact. I once read about a campus behavioral code detailing how to pass a black student when you pass going in different directions. That guideline prohibits both the too-long and the too-brief versions as being disrespectful. So, one must nail it just right, right in the middle. Another issue is whether the receiver accepts smiles; what is the appropriate level of smile? Again, go for the middle.

    I will add this. Be flexible and adaptable in all encounters. There is no balk rule. Officer Chauvin thought there was a balk rule that required him to continue with his motion and not switch positions.

  50. @Jonathan Mason

    Not in the states.

    https://youtu.be/Wn3ynYdTdHY

    Only controversy here is how to pronounce it.

  51. Or, we might ask, why is the University of Exeter, just down the street from Dorset, 98 percent lefty.

    Wow, imagine what would happen if a conservative white person opened their mouth at the Uni.

    “What’s difficult is when [you come into the lecture hall] and they quite clearly have ‘a face’ at you.”

    • Agree: Dissident
  52. J.Ross says:
    @Desiderius

    Thanks for that thread by the way, it’s the best iteration of what it does, it could be a Tucker monologue.

  53. News you can use.

  54. ic1000 says:

    If this was Germany of the 1930s, this unnamed reporter and his or her editors would be eagerly reporting on the latest kidnappings of hapless Aryan toddlers by a cabal of rabbis.

    If this was 1930s Ukraine, they would be exposing the misdeeds of the greedy kulaks, setting the stage for their comeuppance.

    The too-pale people of Dorset will be getting their just desserts, so what. That won’t be stopping any BBC journalists from getting their beauty sleep.

  55. It’s embarrassing alright, but not for Toyota. They weren’t the brain geniuses who decided to abandon their own constituents, let alone voters, leaving yourselves so weak that no one can afford to be associated with you.

    It’s your job to protect Toyota (and us!) from these mobs, instead you decided you’d rather team up with them against the most basic rights of your own voters and supporters and the integrity of our elections. Shame.

    • Agree: JMcG
  56. @Rob McX

    “Whites extinct, women and minorities hardest hit.”

    And, oddly enough, that will be the absolute truth. It reminds me of that article in American Renaissance written by a teacher who taught in a virtually all-black school.

    One day I asked the bored, black faces staring back at me: “What would happen if all the white people in America disappeared tomorrow?”

    “We screwed,” a young, pitch-black boy screamed back. The rest of the blacks laughed.

    https://www.amren.com/archives/back-issues/july-2009/#cover

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    , @anon
    , @Carol
    , @CCZ
  57. @Ghost of Bull Moose

    Dorset is obviously not far enough from the madding crowd.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  58. @Harry Baldwin

    During the McCarthy period, the Left accused the Right of seeing a Red under every bed. Now the Left sees a White supremacist under every bedsheet.

    I came up with that recently but suspect it’s a bit too labored to work as a gag.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  59. You can’t be racist in your own territory. Members of other races are the aggressors and therefore the ones in the wrong, i.e., the racists.

    • Agree: donut, Rosie
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  60. Anonymous[658] • Disclaimer says:
    @Ben tillman

    Wow..just wow

    have I got a 2016 diversity training seminar for you.

  61. Carol says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    They don’t lack self-awareness. An hour on Black TikTok shows they know exactly what they’re about.

    If it weren’t for all the race hustlers and white knights they’d be content with shooting each other and the periodic riot and looting spree.

  62. guest says:

    Devolution in Metropolitan London: Why Is Our Capital So Inbred Brown?

  63. The three year old city of Buffalo boy who was shot in the head while watching July Fourth fireworks, with family and friends, died today. Two years ago it was a 14 month old girl who was shot and killed along with her grandmother at the grandmother’s birthday party. And people wonder why you want to avoid a certain culture. My prayers for the little boy, he did nothing to deserve his pain.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @JMcG
  64. • Replies: @Spect3r
  65. Ian Smith says:

    Have you ever noticed the more light-skinned mulattos are, the more African they wear their hair?

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @R.G. Camara
  66. Well, you know what they say. Give an Englishman an inch and he’ll take a mile.

    • Replies: @al gore rhythms
  67. BB753 says:

    ““It gives you that feeling of, ‘oh, OK, people don’t see me as belonging here because of the colour of my skin and the texture of my hair’. …”

    It’s always about the hair with women of diversity.

    • Replies: @James J O'Meara
  68. Altai says:
    @Altai

    It’s essentially this.

    Just replace ‘space’ with country. And in fact, there was at least one guy who migrated to another country and basically harangued the natives with this narrative.

    “The autochthons can’t adapt to the multicultural reality. That’s what’s going on. Then they will have to emigrate. Who does not like it here, should leave.”

    AEL-leader Dyab Abou Jahjah makes this statement in the latest edition of the Dutch magazine ‘Society Quarterly’, a quite remarkable statement.
    Belgians or Dutchmen who can’t live with the multicultural society in their own country should move/emigrate.

    Emigrate to where, is the question.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyab_Abou_Jahjah

    Looking through Jahjah’s CV is impressive in how much he openly says he hates the place that took him in and gave him a political career, which he uses to agitate for more immigration of Muslims and denigrate the natives. He is essentially an advocate for the ethnic cleansing of the native populations whose very lack of ethnocentrism is the reason he is there in the first place.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Triteleia Laxa
    , @El Dato
  69. @Harry Baldwin

    No it’s pretty good but the problem is no one’s heard of the McCarthy period, let alone a Red under every bed. You’ve also got the problem that there were Reds in places far more dangerous than under beds and we failed to catch them, let alone stop them, so you run the risk of confirming the paranoia.

  70. • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  71. JMcG says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    You’re a good man, Joe. That’s terribly sad. I hope you and yours are doing well.

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  72. CCZ says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    The scientific minds at Scientific America would disagree because, they say, we are all descended genetically and culturally from blacks and Africans “laid down the foundation for human culture”!!!!

    The global scientific community overwhelmingly accepts that all living humans are of African descent. Most scientific articles about our African origins focus on genetics. The part of the story that is not widely shared is about the creation of human culture. We are all descended genetically, and also culturally, from dark-skinned ancestors. Early humans from the African continent are the ones who first invented tools; the use of fire; language; and religion. These dark skinned early people laid down the foundation for human culture. Considering the short life span of our early ancestors, these original innovators were probably also very young. No one who follows artistic trends will be surprised to learn that, from the beginning, human culture was essentially invented by teenagers. And by culture I don’t just mean the arts, I mean the whole shebang.

    I want to unmask the lie that evolution denial is about religion and recognize that at its core, it is a form of white supremacy that perpetuates segregation and violence against Black bodies.

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/denial-of-evolution-is-a-form-of-white-supremacy/?fbclid=IwAR2fKAPeI8Ba2erDYIV-58lf2EQzdBghJYuj_khmI5CdPsoZ27d6CSN_Xus

    • Replies: @El Dato
  73. @Desiderius

    Republican politicians can all sit in a room and decide to hold fast to speaking in defence of their constituencies, no matter the allegations.

    If they did this for a year, all of them, in no uncertain terms, their constitutiencies would hear, and sympathetic money-seeking media, protected by that bubble, would form to serve them.

    They could start by declaring all systems of racial preference are “racism”; and the “but akshually, racism is bigotry plus power” brigade could just to laughed at.

    What have Republican politicians got to lose? They have much to gain, including their dignity.

  74. Gee, seems as if I’ve read this same story dozens of times. In place of the UK’s idyllic Dorset, substitute “Maine” “Montana” “Idaho,” ad nauseum. Funny, here in Massachusetts I don’t see any versions with the localities “Dover” “Sherborn” “Marblehead,” “Manchester-by-the-Sea” [it used to be just plain “Manchester” but the Elite’s there didn’t like being confused with working-class Manchester, NH! so they changed it by state law!]. Anyway, you get the idea; if not just google any of those town names – they’re Lilly White [with a smattering of high-achieving Asians – both real and the Affirmative Action kind from South Asia] mixed in. If there’s a black…oops, I meant, of course, “Black” with a capital “B!’ family in those exclusive towns with 5-acre zoning it’s probably headed by a member of one of the three professional sports franchises; I’m omitting the hockey team as there aren’t many Blacks! in Canada or the European countries where hockey is played. The last Black! player I recall on the Bruins was Anson Carter and when he was traded it was blamed not on his declining production or the availability of a better right winger, but on … what else…racism!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  75. e.272 says:

    You can’t be racist in your own territory.

    Defining “your own territory” turns out to be very simple: It’s mine and I will defend it. Hawaii was not populated by its first human settlers when Captain Cook arrived. The Comanche were driven into west Texas by another wave of settlers from Asia long before the Europeans arrived. Looking at genetic evidence, David Reich describes this in his book “Who We Are and How We Got Here”. Pre-historic human migration was wild as the wind.

    Claims that “My tribe got here first!” rarely stand to scrutiny.

  76. @Altai

    When people speak like that, I just answer honestly: “I don’t see any reason for why it is in the interest of the Dutch people to let you remain in their country.”

  77. @Desiderius

    Matt Walsh has a great idea: cameras in schoolrooms. No need for whistleblowers.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @Rob McX
  78. @Desiderius

    Company caves.

    Toyota caved to Jesse Jackson Sr. two decades ago.

    Hey Toyota, It’s Jesse Jackson on the Line

    PAUL HOLMES 22 JUL 2002 // 11:00PM GMT

    There are some words no corporate CEO wants to hear. “Morley Safer is on the line for you,” is one of them. “The Reverend Jesse Jackson is calling a boycott of your company,” is another.

    After two failed bids for the Democratic presidential nomination, Jackson apparently came to the conclusion that real economic progress for African-Americans would be more easily achieved in the corporate realm than in the political realm. To get elected to high office, Jackson would need to win a majority of votes, including white votes. To influence corporate America to change its ways, he would merely need to harness the power of public opinion—and even a relatively small segment of the public could wield enormous pressure.

    https://www.provokemedia.com/latest/article/hey-toyota-it’s-jesse-jackson-on-the-line

  79. @Desiderius

    The most sure sign the 2020 election was stolen is the rush to cover up/belittle/demonize anyone who questions it. Which is also a sign the country is headed for either an open dictatorship or a civil war crack up (or both).

    In a healthy (or at least semi-healthy) nation, when many citizens question an official narrative about major events, the government will go out of its way to issue reports actually reviewing the official narrative.

    Both the JFK assassination and the 9/11 incidents both caused massive conspiracy theorizing, distrusting the official narrative. In response, the government created the Warren Commission (JFK) and the 9/11 commission, who issued reports designed to assuage the average skeptic that the official line was A-OK. After that, only the fringe folks questioned it.

    Now the purpose of such reports wasn’t the truth, it was to stop average people from harping on the issue. It was about calming their fears and people consenting to the line; it was to stop civil unrest. Sure, you can claim much of the official reports were bogus, but the government at least evinced a strong desire to make sure the population believed the events weren’t so evil and homemade as to require a revolt.

    Flash forward to now, merely 20 years after 9/11, and the government is saying it doesn’t care if you question the 2020 election results, you’ll accept them, shut up, no investigation necessary. Even though 70 million people think their vote was stolen.

    That bespeaks a ruling class so drunk on power it doesn’t think it needs the consent of the citizens to govern and can order them to believe something without any rationalization. It’s the way of both dictators — who can force such nonsense on people — and countries headed for civil war — because the ruling class fails to stomp down on the people who keep noticing things, until a critical mass is reached who reject the official government line.

    So open dictatorship, or civil war.

    Arm up, gents.

  80. Alden says:
    @Ian Smith

    That’s because if they didn’t wear their hair in dreadlocks or a big frizz people would assume they’re Arabs or just ordinary Southern Europeans or Hispanics of some kind.

    I’ve noticed as he gets older and his face gets thinner, Colin Kaepernick looks more and more European, specifically sort of tanned brown eyed Viking descended Scot or Irish.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  81. @anon

    Thank you for that. I learned something.

  82. At least we’ll get to live out this passage from Marlowe’s Dr Faustus:

    Hell hath no limits, nor is circumscrib’d
    In one self place; for where we are is hell,
    And where hell is, there must we ever be:
    And, to conclude, when all the world dissolves,
    And every creature shall be purified,
    All places shall be hell that are not heaven.

  83. @Ian Smith

    It’s a pretty decent stereotype that light-skinned blacks males are often the most into being black and the loudest about it and try to always assert blackness. Very likely because they fear that darker-skinned blacks wouldn’t accept them unless they wholeheartedly committed to the black race.

    Light-skinned black females don’t have this hangup as much. Likely because they are already the most sexually desired black women, so black males will line up to protect them and include them.

  84. @Alden

    Kaepernick is a poster child for why whites shouldn’t adopt black kids. No matter how much a help you give them and how loving you are to them, they will always turn against you and try to out-black, out-grievance-monger everyone else in their quest to prove how “really black” they are.

  85. Wilkey says:

    The question the BBC will never ask: “Why is the BBC, like so many other media companies, headed by a Jew – even though Jews are barely 1% of the British population, and much less than 1% of the world population?

    We’re perpetually told that race doesn’t matter, that it’s irrelevant, that absent any shenanigans all races should be equal. And yet somehow it matters that a rural English county 97.9% white. (Which, by the way, is probably less white than London was just 100 years ago.

    • Agree: Polistra, Charon
  86. Steve, multiple comments in moderation, thanks.

  87. SOL says:

    When will the UK football fans say enough is enough?

  88. Anon[162] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Thanks

    And he doesn’t include the vaccine trial suppression thing, although admittedly this is less known, so might not be a big factor in the average Trump supporter’s cynicism.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/the-new-normal-by-any-means-necessary/

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/both-pfizer-and-moderna-could-have-announced-vaccine-efficacy-before-the-election/

    • Replies: @Anon
  89. Anonymous[228] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Is it controversial that Muriel Bowser consciously, plausibly-deniably shepherded the fiasco (House Democrats kept in the loop most likely)? With the insights of 6 months of after-action reports from Minneapolis, Kenosha, Philadelphia/NYC, et al.

    This is not to excuse the President, just to dispense with this notion of experienced multi-hued dutiful civil servants managing and upholding the vital national functions under the brand of “the Constitution.” DC:America::Disneyland:education of the youth

  90. ziggurat says:

    Regarding this post’s title: “the dispossessionist mindset” …
    … the word “dispossessionist” is not even a word.

    https://www.thefreedictionary.com/dispossession

    Yet, it should be a word.

    I guess you could say “the dispossessor’s mindset”. Yet, that sounds like an indication of someone who has already dispossessed someone of their land, rather than someone who believes & advocates for such a policy.

    I found someone else who used the word:
    https://uprootedpalestinian.wordpress.com/category/jewish-crimes/page/2/

    First, Netanyahu conceded that Israel is not really a Jewish State; it’s an Arab dispossessionist state. Building homes for Jewish colonists presupposes the existence of Jews to occupy them, but Jews had nothing to do with this decision.

    We live in a “white dispossessionist state“, where even a large percentage of whites are colluding in their own dispossession, while the vast majority of other whites are either unwares or dare not protest.

    M-W has political examples:
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dispossess

    Examples of dispossess in a Sentence
    — The land was settled by dispossessing the native people who lived here.
    — Opponents of gentrification claim that the process unfairly dispossesses poorer residents of their long-established homes

    Recent Examples on the Web:
    — Extremists, including some right-wing Israeli politicians, have expanded their efforts to dispossess Palestinian residents of an East Jerusalem neighborhood. — Aaron David Miller And Daniel Kurtzer, CNN, 12 May 2021

    • Replies: @guest
  91. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    LOL.

    Reminds me of an interview The Atlantic did with their erstwhile columnist Ta-Henisi Coates and an African novelist who was trendy at the time. They agreed they had received racist microagressions from people: looks and curt speech and so on. Maybe, the interviewer said, it was just that that person was having a bad day and being a bit rude in consequence? Oh no, Coates and trendy African agreed. They could tell the difference. It was racism all right.

    There’s no need to bring back overt racism because these people classify anything less than obsequiousness as racism already.

  92. Anyone who doesn’t get a bit apprehensive when 5 black “yutes” walk into the pub isn’t paying attention.

  93. Rural racism in Dorset: Why is our countryside 98% white?

    Diversity means every place must be the same.

    [MORE]

    Of course, that’s just the cute quip. Because actually they don’t care about that … in most places in the world.

    What diversity actually means: No place should be allowed to be white.

    • Agree: Polistra, Charon
  94. @James Speaks

    If you knew anything about England you know we’ve been forbidden from using Imperial measurements for a long time now.

    So in fact if you give us 2.54 cm we’ll give you 1.6km.

    • Replies: @James Speaks
  95. Still a comment in moderation, Steve, thanks.

  96. Mr. Anon says:

    It’s begun to seep into the mainstream media – FOX News at least – that all this anti-white agit-prop might lead to Whites adopting identity politics. They decry it, of course. It would be horrible for the country……………of course.

    But would it be so horrible for us Whites? If every tribe stands against us and promotes their own interests – as a tribe – is it not reasonable for us to start thinking of ourselves as a tribe, with our own interests?

    Is that really so unreasonable? Anyone? Anyone? Carlson?

    • Replies: @Rob McX
  97. Mr. Anon says:

    Rural racism in the Generalgouvernement of Poland: Why is our countryside 98% slavic?

    Nowy Kurier Warszawski

    • LOL: El Dato
  98. Anon[281] • Disclaimer says:

    Immigrants love cities and hate the countryside. They all came from the countryside in their home countries where they worked like dogs out on subsistence farms and they absolutely hated it. They can’t get away from the countryside fast enough.

  99. El Dato says:

    Because whites are indigenous to rural Dorsetshire and nonwhites are not?

    More like all the blacks have been genocided from the countryside between WWI and WWI and throw into the shafts of coalmines. We know that since Roman times, England used to be at least 13% black, which is the global standard. The WHO recommends notching this up to 15% to improve general mental health.

    Criminologist and co-author of Rural Racism, Prof Neil Chakraborty

    Chakraborty is a surname from the Indian subcontinent meaning ′Ruler of the country′ or ‘Emperor’.

    “Hello!”
    “Whose castle is this?”
    “This is the castle of my master, Prof Neil Chakraborty”
    “What are you doing in England?”
    “MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!”

  100. @Ancient Briton

    Well, we know who’s getting cast in the next version of Return of the Native.

    Dorset is obviously not far enough from the madding crowd.

    Hardy-har-har.

  101. El Dato says:

    Meanwhile in the country that gave us the guy with new management techniques after Weimar:

    Anarcho-feminists storm Austrian newspaper over ‘racist’ reporting in high-profile teen gang-rape & murder case

    A group of activists from the group ‘Alerta Feminista’ broke into the offices of oe24 – the web portal of the Vienna-based daily newspaper Osterreich – late on Wednesday, seeking to force their way into the editorial newsroom. The left-wing anarchist group eventually reached the sales office, where they engaged in a heated verbal exchange with eo24 employees. The outlet claimed some of its female employees were physically attacked by the activists but sustained no injuries.

    The 20 or so activists, who had their faces covered, sought to protest what they called “racist reporting” on a high-profile incident that shocked the Alpine nation almost two weeks ago. Their outrage was apparently triggered by the fact that oe24 revealed the nationalities of suspects in a horrific rape and murder case that is still under investigation. Four Afghan nationals have been accused of drugging and raping a 13-year-old girl who was found dead in Vienna on June 26.

    When the girl showed no signs of life, the suspects allegedly tried to “revive” her by pouring milk and yogurt into her mouth and putting her body in a shower. Eventually, they wrapped her in a carpet and left her on the side of the road nearby. Their apartment was later found by a police sniffer dog.

    Clearly, we need to protect the Afghans who just do what comes to them naturally.

    A group of Austrian pro-asylum and anti-racism NGOs have pushed back, accusing the media and politicians of trying to play an ethnic card in this case. The NGOs demanded a stop to “racist diversionary actions” and called on the authorities to focus on preventing murders of women instead.

    A debate on asylum seekers would stir up “generalized racist prejudices” that would harm some 40,000 Afghans living in Austria, said the group, which includes Asylum Coordination Austria and the Association of Autonomous Austrian Women’s Shelters.

  102. El Dato says:
    @CCZ

    > Negros are the ones who burst out of Africa.
    > For some reason Negros are still there.

    What gives?

    • Replies: @CCZ
    , @Rob McX
  103. There was a line from the 1984 movie Red Dawn that summarizes why Dorset is 98% white.

    Because we live here!

  104. @VivaLaMigra

    “Manchester-by-the-Sea” [it used to be just plain “Manchester” but the Elite’s there didn’t like being confused with working-class Manchester, NH! so they changed it by state law!]

    Commonwealth law.

    Anyway, Massachusetts herself wasn’t above putting a branch of their University in the conveniently-named Town of Dartmouth. (Campus designed by Steve’s favorite architect, Paul Rudolph, the Gehry of reinforced concrete.)

    In that case, Bay Staters had no problem being confused with New Hampshiremen!

  105. Dissident says:

    Sherborne School is an English independent boarding school for boys, located beside Sherborne Abbey, in the parish of Sherborne, Dorset. The school has been in continuous operation on the same site for over 1,300 years.

    ~ ~ ~
    Spectacular scenery along Dorset coast, including Durdle Door Beach.~ ~ ~

    • Replies: @Dissident
  106. @al gore rhythms

    Thank you for the update. If you knew anything about southern American colloquialisms, you would know I wasn’t talking about actual Englisgmen.

  107. The Dispossessionist Mindset

    Dispossession is nine-tenths of the law.

  108. @Jonathan Mason

    “Gillingham is in Kent, not far from London, and nowhere near Dorset”

    How long have you been out of the UK? There’s a beautiful Gillingham in Dorset and there’s one in Kent, not quite so beautiful.

    Lots of place names are re-used. I can think of four Newports (two in Wales, Shropshire, Isle of Wight) and I bet there are more (actually a dozen). Several River Avons too, including one in Scotland.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newport

  109. guest says:
    @Dave Pinsen

    Naw.

    For most people this sort of nonsense makes no difference one way or another.

    People may continue making disingenuous appeals as before.

    That’s why “racism” is right there in the title. Those with brains to see that word as meaningless in this context are likely to already make ingenuous appeals.

    Then there’s a third group of people who know better but shy away on account of being afraid of the “r” word.

    They put “racism” in headlines for many reasons, chief among them to scare folk into line.

  110. guest says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    The Welsh/Irish Zeta Jones got away with playing Mexican in a bygone era. Plus, she has “Zeta” in her nane, which sounds “exotic.”

    Now she’d have the additional advantage of being too old for the role.

    End age discrimination!

    • Replies: @Alden
  111. guest says:
    @ziggurat

    Why can’t we use simpler terms like *thief*?

  112. Anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:

    Radical left-wing singer/songwriter and Professional Londoner Billy Bragg moved to Dorset some years ago, provoking much ridicule. He regularly travels back to London to campaign against the BNP though.

  113. @Barnard

    Anybody ever figure out the race of the American GIs who raped Anthony Burgess’s wife and thus provided the inspiration for “A Clockwork Orange”?

  114. Here’s the real dispossession they have planned.
    Ask Karl Schwab.

    https://gizmodo.com/in-2030-you-wont-own-any-gadgets-1847176540?

  115. @Matttt

    Prof. Chakraborty is the head of the Centre for Hate Studies at Leicester U. where he studies why he hates the English so much despite all that they have done for him:

    https://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/criminology/people/nac5

    • LOL: Desiderius
  116. El Dato says:
    @Altai

    He was born and grew up in southern Lebanon in Hanin, near the Lebanese-Israeli border. He gained refugee status in 1996 and became a Belgian citizen through marriage to a Belgian woman, from whom he much later divorced.

    Sometimes you regret that the Israelis don’t clean harder and more thoroughly.

    • Agree: photondancer
  117. Old Prude says:
    @Cho Seung-Hui

    It’s not the immigrants people are so pissed about, but rather immigration. If the elites would just stop bringing in more and more and more foreigners to eat the land and the wealth and the culture, then the heat would turn down considerably.

    • Replies: @Hangnail Hans
    , @Seneca44
  118. El Dato says:
    @SafeNow

    The Invisible Negro Samurai!

  119. @Stealth

    Don’t worry, Russians are coming ….

    • Replies: @El Dato
    , @sayless
  120. A people is an extended family. As I’ve posted many times ….

  121. El Dato says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Only hardcore Shia fundamentalism followed by mad beatdowns such that the sound reverberates from the Urals can save us.

    If the bomb doesn’t come to Iran, Iran should go to the bomb.

    Shia fundi Germans would be like Dune Fremen let loose.

  122. @Cho Seung-Hui

    Oh great. Another Korean-American.

  123. @Steve Sailer

    Surely the fact that the information is impossible to discover is telling, if not quite dispositive.

  124. @Old Prude

    It’s way too late for that. Whiskey is right, what is going on is laying the groundwork for genocide.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  125. @anonymous

    “the pilgrims committed genocide against the Pequot”

    So the pilgrims were stronger than the Pequot. Why do you assume that the weak were somehow more virtuous, more deserving of your support than are the strong? Perhaps they were weaker because they were less virtuous? What’s going on in your brain that you automatically believe that those who succumbed to the strength of the victor are somehow virtuous by that fact alone?

    Do you leaf through history books and decide that the loser in every battle of cultures was the better, more commendable party? Then for you, history is the saga of anti-progress, a race backwards towards increasing levels of primitive, war of all against all savagery wherein good always losess.

    And yet the facts speak otherwise. The average life expectancy of people worldwide has risen dramatically wherever Europeans have imposed their civilization. Ditto for virtually every indice of human well being. It is simply undeniable that the European Way has greatly benefitted all mankind.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  126. @Mike Tre

    The left sure feels that way. Africa for Africans but Europe for everyone.

  127. @Matttt

    Every Indian I’ve met in America I would describe as having a “haughty” demeanor.They make it obvious that they regard you as an inferior.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Anon
  128. Spect3r says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    This is to me greatest evidence of how American Society evolved to celebrate mediocracy.
    A national contest to prove that a 14 year old can spell… Seriously?!?
    If you cant spell at 14, school is definitely not for you.

  129. There is something deeply disturbing about this all. I remember reading British Scottish historian Seton Watson’s book “Nations and States”. What struck me- and I have a good memory- was his statement about “contemporary Anglo-Saxons’ deeply ingrained sense of guilt”.

  130. @R.G. Camara

    Agree. Reading articles like this one must ever bear in mind that these are the people who claim that 1/6 was a “insurrection in which four people were killed”–as though they had no hand in the cold-blooded murder of one of those. There is no limit to their depravity.

    It is one thing to say “a crisis is an opportunity which must not go to waste”. It is quite another to murder an innocent person and then feast on her dead body.

  131. Future Headline:

    ASTEROID ENDS 98% OF ALL LIFE
    Minorities and Women Hit Hardest

    • Replies: @Diane
  132. Anonymous[108] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara

    The real parallel with 2020 isn’t JFK or 9/11, but the ouster of Nixon in 1974, which was also done under dubious legal circumstances, which were allowed to stand because he, like Trump, was so intensely hated by the political/media/educational elites, as well as a large number of ordinary Americans.

    (“NDS” in its day was very similar to TDS. These are essentially religious passions which aren’t amenable to reason. Many Americans now as then like the “America First” attitude of both men (they both won elections after all), but a significant number don’t. They really don’t. It violates very deeply held and very old (see 1620) assumptions about the intended role of the U.S. in the world.)

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  133. @El Dato

    Clearly, we need to protect the Afghans who just do what comes to them naturally.

    Actually, it looks like the oe24 guys are the ones that could use some Afghans to protect them from the AWFLs who are doing what comes naturally.

  134. The problem is that as long as the UK exists the English will never see themselves as English. The price that the English paid to create the UK is that that they would see themselves as British – a term they originally used for the non-Anglo-Saxon population of Britain – instead of English.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  135. @Steve Sailer

    Well that certainly sheds new light on that whole picture. Steve is the man with the missing facts.

    Stay safe.

  136. @Steve Sailer

    I’ve read the book a number of times and I could swear that in one version of it–it was rewritten at some point to change the ending–when the Droogs break into his home, at some point early on, the homeowner’s (I forget his name) glasses are broken. Without his glasses, he cannot see clearly. And I’ve always thought this was a beautiful touch, a perfect metaphor for the liberal mindset.

    Remember, later he hosts the perpetrator, actively participates as a member of the group who advocates his being released from prison in fact, and does not recognize that he has invited evil, the very cause of his wife’s murder and loss of his manuscript, right into his home (another perfect metaphor). A very fine book and about so much more than LSD laced milkshakes and grotesque codpieces, which are mere embellishments, I believe, of the essential theme. I suppose I’m one of the few who believe that Kubrick maimed the book.

    I didn’t know that the story was autobiographical.

  137. Ralph L says:

    When asked why the ever-changing cast of “Midsomer Murders” was nearly all white, producer Brian True-May said it was because English villages are nearly all white. He was promptly fired, and now the show has multiple PoC in every episode. Occasionally, the murderer is even of color.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  138. • Replies: @anonymous
  139. Why is our countryside 98% white?

    Because non-white immigrants came to the cities and towns to work. At the time, agricultural jobs were being lost to mechanisation and so there was no demand for more workers in the countryside. Yet now the absence of non-white people in rural areas is being portrayed as a kind of moral failure.

    “I’m British.”

    But not English.

    American settlers did not identify as Sioux or Cheyenne depending on the tribe in whose territory they settled. Something similar is happening here.

    “English” has become a description of an ethnicity, and not a country. This will change when the Scots eventually vote to leave the UK, and England becomes a country again. At that moment, a lot of non-white people who identify as British will suddenly find that they are English after all. If they feel any discomfort with the situation, there is no doubt whatsoever who will be blamed for it: whitey.

    Professor Chakraborty says persistent staring is one example of covert racism …

    Ms Parker said it was to be expected that some people in rural areas had stereotypes in their minds, adding that such comments were rarely borne of any malice.

    In a literal sense this behaviour is racist, but at least Parker has the decency to admit that it is not malicious.

    It is also universal. A friend travelled to China in the early 1990s. He was surrounded by Chinese people – in a friendly way – wherever he went. It was the first time they had seen a man who was 6’4″ tall.

  140. Anonymous[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Yeah, those were good times, my friend. Good times.

  141. @Desiderius

    Yes, I read that. It was connected to the French-Douthat thread, a couple links away, I believe.

    I agree that it was a good read, though I wish I were as optimistic as you.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  142. @Barnard

    It’s an enduring American stupidity to refer to British accent when encountering an English one. Sean Connery knew the difference.

  143. El Dato says:
    @Desiderius

    Not even a word about Podesta’s Pizza preferences.

  144. @anonymous

    I don’t think that word genocide is what you think it is. The Pequots still exist as a tribe.

    And the war against the Pequots was not fully white on red but prosecuted by, among others, the Narragansetts, who did not like the Pequot trading advantage with the nearby Dutch.

    • Thanks: Alden
  145. @Ben tillman

    I’m not optimistic. I have faith. That’s different.

    Speculation about the future is useless and sometimes worse. You do what you can with what you’ve got and let the chips fall where they may. Most important part of that is a clear-eyed grasp of the past and present and that’s what that thread offers, though even that thread dodges the particulars of the election-specific dereliction of duty on the part of our elected officials and the judges they’ve appointed, it just explains and justifies the skepticism of the electorate those officials failed to address.

  146. @El Dato

    I believe Austria was the country that threw a woman in jail for saying Mohammed was a pedophile. Which he was, but muslims are sacred. I bet these foul harpies get away with their assault on the other hand.

  147. @Paperback Writer

    You can’t be serious. If it gets us closer to 1984 it’s probably a bad idea.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  148. anonymous[630] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Orban has embraced China not simply for trade and investment but in culture. He plans to borrow $1 billion Euros from China for Hungary to establish a Budapest branch of Fudan University, one of China’s major research universities in Shanghai. The idea is to leave the Chinese in charge of the major university of Hungary. The Chinese are expected to stay conservative even after Orban is dead or no longer able to guide the direction of a Hungarian university, which would very likely take a liberal turn. Interesting strategy to say the least. Maybe the Chinese and Hungarians will sing onward Christian soldiers together at the opening ceremony.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
  149. Criminologist and co-author of Rural Racism, Prof Neil Chakraborty

    I’m sure Prof Chakraborty has ancestors going all the way back to pre-Norman times.

  150. @SafeNow

    I once read about a campus behavioral code detailing how to pass a black student when you pass going in different directions.

    From a book on dueling: “A member of Louis XVIII’s bodyguard was said to have fought three times in one day: first, with a man who had offended him by looking at him sideways; next, with one who had looked him directly in the eye; and finally, with a stranger who had passed by him without deigning to look upon him at all.”

    Truly, as Moldbug observed, blacks are our new aristocrats.

    http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/012426.html

    • Thanks: Rob McX
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  151. CCZ says:
    @El Dato

    They are also in the liquor stores:

    • Replies: @usNthem
  152. @R.G. Camara

    Excellent. And I might add that questioning the questioning the validity of the 2016 election was A-OK–all the Democrats and prestige presstitutes were doing so. No accusations of undermining faith in democracy on that one. No one was kicked off Facebook or Twitter for promoting the absurd notion that Trump colluded with Russia.

    With zero evidence, an investigation was nevertheless begun, with a dotard appointed as figurehead and the investigative work performed by viciously partisan anti-Trumpers. They stretched the investigation out for two years, using it to intimidate and often bankrupt Trump associates. While it failed in its purpose of getting Trump to perjure himself or do something that could be called obstruction of justice, it did succeed in turning the House of Representatives over to the Democrats.

    The vile maggot Adam Schiff, who all along declared he had solid evidence of collusion, revealed the extent of that evidence afterward: it consisted entirely of the Steele dossier and Trump’s joke about Putin having Hillary’s emails.

    The sole positive accomplishment of the Mueller commission was to prove conclusively that our republic is a sham, for those who had not figured that out already.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  153. @Harry Baldwin

    I finally read the entire Twitter thread to which Desiderius linked, and see all my points better explained and expanded upon there. For those who haven’t read that thread, I’ve put it all into one document, below.

    MartyrMade @martyrmade

    I think I’ve had discussions w/enough Boomer-tier Trump supporters who believe the 2020 election was fraudulent to extract a general theory about their perspective. It is also the perspective of most of the people at the Capitol on 1/6, and probably even Trump himself.

    Most believe some or all of the theories involving midnight ballots, voting machines, etc, but what you find when you talk to them is that, while they’ll defend those positions w/info they got from Hannity or Breitbart or whatever, they’re not particularly attached to them.

    Here are the facts – actual, confirmed facts – that shape their perspective: 1) The FBI/etc spied on the 2016 Trump campaign using evidence manufactured by the Clinton campaign. We now know that all involved knew it was fake from Day 1 (see: Brennan’s July 2016 memo, etc).

    [MORE]
    These are Tea Party people. The types who give their kids a pocket Constitution for their birthday and have Founding Fathers memes in their bios. The intel community spying on a presidential campaign using fake evidence (incl forged documents) is a big deal to them.

    Everyone involved lied about their involvement as long as they could. We only learned the DNC paid for the manufactured evidence because of a court order. Comey denied on TV knowing the DNC paid for it, when we have emails from a year earlier proving that he knew.

    This was true with everyone, from CIA Dir Brennan & Adam Schiff – who were on TV saying they’d seen clear evidence of collusion w/Russia, while admitting under oath behind closed doors that they hadn’t – all the way down the line. In the end we learned that it was ALL fake.

    At first, many Trump ppl were worried there must be some collusion, because every media & intel agency wouldn’t make it up out of nothing. When it was clear that they had made it up, people expected a reckoning, and shed many illusions about their gov’t when it didn’t happen.

    We know as fact: a) The Steele dossier was the sole evidence used to justify spying on the Trump campaign, b) The FBI knew the Steele dossier was a DNC op, c) Steele’s source told the FBI the info was unserious, d) they did not inform the court of any of this and kept spying.

    Trump supporters know the collusion case front and back. They went from worrying the collusion must be real, to suspecting it might be fake, to realizing it was a scam, then watched as every institution – agencies, the press, Congress, academia – gaslit them for another year.

    Worse, collusion was used to scare people away from working in the administration. They knew their entire lives would be investigated. Many quit because they were being bankrupted by legal fees. The DoJ, press, & gov’t destroyed lives and actively subverted an elected admin.

    This is where people whose political identity was largely defined by a naive belief in what they learned in Civics class began to see the outline of a Regime that crossed all institutional boundaries. Because it had stepped out of the shadows to unite against an interloper.

    GOP propaganda still has many of them thinking in terms of partisan binaries, but A LOT of Trump supporters see that the Regime is not partisan. They all know that the same institutions would have taken opposite sides if it was a Tulsi Gabbard vs Jeb Bush election.

    It’s hard to describe to people on the left (who are used to thinking of gov’t as a conspiracy… Watergate, COINTELPRO, WMD, etc) how shocking & disillusioning this was for people who encourage their sons to enlist in the Army, and hate ppl who don’t stand for the Anthem.

    They could have managed the shock if it only involved the government. But the behavior of the corporate press is really what radicalized them. They hate journalists more than they hate any politician or gov’t official, because they feel most betrayed by them.

    The idea that the press is driven by ratings/sensationalism became untenable. If that were true, they’d be all over the Epstein story. The corporate press is the propaganda arm of the Regime they now see in outline. Nothing anyone says will ever make them unsee that, period.

    This is profoundly disorienting. Many of them don’t know for certain whether ballots were faked in November 2020, but they know for absolute certain that the press, the FBI, etc would lie to them if there was. They have every reason to believe that, and it’s probably true.

    They watched the press behave like animals for four years. Tens of millions of people will always see Kavanaugh as a gang rapist, based on nothing, because of CNN. And CNN seems proud of that. They led a lynch mob against a high school kid. They cheered on a summer of riots.

    They always claimed the media had liberal bias, fine, whatever. They still thought the press would admit truth if they were cornered. Now they don’t. It’s a different thing to watch them invent stories whole cloth in order to destroy regular lives and spark mass violence.

    Time Mag told us that during the 2020 riots, there were weekly conference calls involving, among others, leaders of the protests, the local officials who refused to stop them, and media people who framed them for political effect. In Ukraine we call that a color revolution.

    Throughout the summer, Democrat governors took advantage of COVID to change voting procedures. It wasn’t just the mail-ins (they lowered signature matching standards, etc). After the collusion scam, the fake impeachment, Trump ppl expected shenanigans by now.

    Re: “fake impeachment”, we now know that Trump’s request for Ukraine to cooperate w/the DOJ regarding Biden’s $ activities in Ukraine was in support of an active investigation being pursued by the FBI and Ukraine AG at the time, and so a completely legitimate request.

    Then you get the Hunter laptop scandal. Big Tech ran a full-on censorship campaign against a major newspaper to protect a political candidate. Period. Everyone knows it, all of the Tech companies now admit it was a “mistake” – but, ya know, the election’s over, so who cares?

    Goes w/o saying, but: If the NY Times had Don Jr’s laptop, full of pics of him smoking crack and engaging in group sex, lots of lurid family drama, emails describing direct corruption and backed up by the CEO of the company they were using, the NYT wouldn’t have been banned.

    Think back: Stories about Trump being pissed on by Russian prostitutes and blackmailed by Putin were promoted as fact, and the only evidence was a document paid for by his opposition and disavowed by its source. The NY Post was banned for reporting on true information.

    The reaction of Trump ppl to all this was not, “no fair!” That’s how they felt about Romney’s “binders of women” in 2012. This is different. Now they see, correctly, that every institution is captured by ppl who will use any means to exclude them from the political process.

    And yet they showed up in record numbers to vote. He got 13m more votes than in 2016, 10m more than Clinton got! As election night dragged on, they allowed themselves some hope. But when the four critical swing states (and only those states) went dark at midnight, they knew.

    Over the ensuing weeks, they got shuffled around by grifters and media scam artists selling them conspiracy theories. They latched onto one, then another increasingly absurd theory as they tried to put a concrete name on something very real.

    Media & Tech did everything to make things worse. Everything about the election was strange – the changes to procedure, unprecedented mail-in voting, the delays, etc – but rather than admit that and make everything transparent, they banned discussion of it (even in DMs!).

    Everyone knows that, just as Don Jr’s laptop would’ve been the story of the century, if everything about the election dispute was the same, except the parties were reversed, suspicions about the outcome would’ve been Taken Very Seriously. See 2016 for proof.

    Even the courts’ refusal of the case gets nowhere w/them, because of how the opposition embraced mass political violence. They’ll say, w/good reason: What judge will stick his neck out for Trump knowing he’ll be destroyed in the media as a violent mob burns down his house?

    It’s a fact, according to Time Magazine, that mass riots were planned in cities across the country if Trump won. Sure, they were “protests”, but they were planned by the same people as during the summer, and everyone knows what it would have meant. Judges have families, too.

    Forget the ballot conspiracies. It’s a fact that governors used COVID to unconstitutionally alter election procedures (the Constitution states that only legislatures can do so) to help Biden to make up for a massive enthusiasm gap by gaming the mail-in ballot system.

    They knew it was unconstitutional, it’s right there in plain English. But they knew the cases wouldn’t see court until after the election. And what judge will toss millions of ballots because a governor broke the rules? The threat of mass riots wasn’t implied, it was direct.

    a) The entrenched bureaucracy & security state subverted Trump from Day 1, b) The press is part of the operation, c) Election rules were changed, d) Big Tech censors opposition, e) Political violence is legitimized & encouraged, f) Trump is banned from social media.

    They were led down some rabbit holes, but they are absolutely right that their gov’t is monopolized by a Regime that believes they are beneath representation, and will observe no limits to keep them getting it. Trump fans should be happy he lost; it might’ve kept him alive.

    • Thanks: Desiderius, Seneca44
  154. Seneca44 says:
    @Old Prude

    Yes as the old aphorism says, “When you’re in a hole, first thing to do is stop digging”

  155. G. Poulin says:
    @anonymous

    It took an entire generation before the inevitable ethnic hostilities erupted into war (a war in which the natives gave as well as they got). The natives lost, and suffered the usual fate that losers get in this kind of conflict. If the English settlers had lost, it would have been they who got exterminated. That’s life, son.

  156. You must avert your gaze while in The Presence.
    OR…
    In the future, everyone* will be Barbara Streisand for 15 minutes.

    * BIPOCs; LGBTQWERTYs.

  157. The project of the 21st Century is to dispossess whites of the very nice countries they have built

    If only someone had foreseen this…

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Inselaffen
    , @Alden
  158. @Harry Baldwin

    In the land of the low T the man with normal T is king.

    Literally.

    Fix the t-levels.

    • Replies: @anon
  159. Barnard says:
    @J1234

    I saw the episode that featured the elderly interracial couple and didn’t watch any others after that. I have read two of the books plus Herriot’s children’s stories and don’t ever remember a black person being mentioned in them. Why would they, it is unlikely a single black person lived in the Yorkshire Dales during the time period the stories cover.

  160. anon[354] • Disclaimer says:
    @Desiderius

    Fix the t-levels.

    Describe your solution.

  161. sayless says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    The Russians are coming?

    Well I wish they’d get a move on.

  162. syonredux says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Dunno, but the odds are in favor of them being Black. From a French article on rapes committed by US troops during The Second World War. It’s surprisingly frank on certain matters:

    Between June 14, 1944 and June 19, 1945, the US military tried 68 cases of ordinary rape involving 75 victims, of whom 3 (4%) were refugees. 

    A total of 139 soldiers were present at the crime scene – 117 (84%) were black and 22 (16%) were white. The army judged 116 of these soldiers, 94 (81%) black and 22 (19%) white. The prosecution used some of the soldiers not tried as witnesses against the defendants. One of the most important revelations is the military identity of rapists.

    To our surprise, the US military justice records reveal that the vast majority of soldiers tried for rape in France were not front-line combatants but rather members of logistical support units, that is to say soldiers who were responsible for supplying front-line soldiers with ammunition, food, gas and spare parts.

    Blacks were heavily concentrated in support units during WW2……

    https://www.cairn.info/revue-vingtieme-siecle-revue-d-histoire-2002-3-page-109.htm#

  163. ziggurat says:
    @Cho Seung-Hui

    Natives blaming immigrants is what the elites want. It’s just a form of dividing labor against itself.

    Which natives are blaming immigrants?

    In this article, it was immigrants blaming natives for minor transgressions or just their own personal insecurities (e.g., “staring”, “seemingly innocent comments”, “you stand out”, “covert racism”).

    Persistent staring, constant reminders from neighbours who say, ‘we don’t see many like you around here’.

    seemingly innocent comments from others are a reminder that she is seen by some as an outsider

    When you walk into a room and you are the only person of colour, you stand out, you look different, you can’t blend into the landscape around you, but really you just feel like everyone else – I’m British.

    … that “face” as “covert racism” and says victims are often left unsure if what they are experiencing is discrimination.

    Then, at the end, the 2nd-generation immigrant (Louisa Adjoa Parker) implies that all whites are to blame for anything other whites have ever done that could be construed as racist:

    [MORE]

    “If we see a black African-American man being killed at the hands of the police in America, it might feel as though that’s got nothing to do with us, nothing to do with Dorset,” she said.
    “But actually it was white men from Dorset and the west country who left the area, travelled around the world, colonised other countries, set up plantations, enslaving people, and they were some of the first people instrumental in setting up the systems of white supremacy that we see today.

    Numbers USA (one of the most prominent anti-mass-immigration organization) has an explicit policy of not saying anything bad about immigrants:
    https://www.numbersusa.com/about/no-immigrant-bashing

    ‘No’ to Immigrant Bashing
    Nothing about this website should be construed as advocating hostile actions or feelings toward immigrants and other foreign-born people in this country.

    Yet, it still gets tagged as “anti-immigrant”.

    What the elites want is to flood the country with cheap labor that dispossesses whites of their lands and turns them into 2nd class citizens. They want us to feel uncomfortable talking about it, by accusing us of “blaming immigrants”.

    If there’s so much bigotry and anti-immigrant sentiment, then how come 2nd-generation immigrants feel so comfortable slandering all whites to the BBC, even when such immigrants live in 98% white communities? Wouldn’t they fear being run out of town? In fact, she even accused the whites in her hometown of slavery and white supremacy.

    But actually it was white men from Dorset and the west country who left the area, travelled around the world, colonised other countries, set up plantations, enslaving people, and they were some of the first people instrumental in setting up the systems of white supremacy that we see today.

    The only kind of bigotry that you are not allowed to talk about is “anti-whiteism”, which is expressed whenever you hear the words “racism”, “hate speech”, “anti-immigrant”, “blaming immigrants”, “scapegoating immigrants”, etc.

    We need to play the same game that the anti-whites are playing and call them “anti-white”. Let’s go on the offensive and then make them defend themselves.

    https://www.unz.com/article/jews-and-competitive-victimhood
    Jews and Competitive Victimhood
    Ethnic Defense or Attack?

    Jews, to the extent they admit their involvement in these and other damaging intellectual movements and social policies shaped by them, often portray them as a necessary ethnic “defense” against anti-Semitism. Jewish movie director Jill Soloway claimed, for instance, that Hollywood’s Jews were “recreating culture to defend ourselves post-Holocaust.” From the perspective of White people, however, this “defense” is an incredibly aggressive ethnic attack that threatens our very biological survival in the long term. Research has found that aggressiveness toward outgroups is more likely to be considered legitimate and fair if one’s ingroup is believed to have suffered. For instance, Jewish Canadians who were reminded of the Holocaust accepted less collective guilt for Jews’ harmful actions toward Palestinians than those not reminded of it.

    http://www.NoWhiteGuilt.org

    By the way, everyone is welcome (including non-whites) to fight against the civilization-destroying anti-whiteism. Join the movement, “Cho Seung-Hui”, to stop the anti-whites from blaming whites. Please call it out the divisive anti-whiteism whenever you hear or see it.

    • Replies: @Cho Seung-Hui
  164. @SafeNow

    Rule #1) Around blacks never relax.

    Rule #2) Burn Rule #1 into your brain.

  165. @J.Ross

    I’ve posted this before as a great example of how “all white” films of the past are now (here, 1996 or so) perceived as ‘weird’ or ‘funny’ if not outright ‘racist.’ It’s an actual short film promoting the Seattle World’s Fair (and touch tone dialing of the future!).

    But your comment here made me realize: look at 2:30 where the White kids start pawing at the Japanese woman, indeed “touching” her. This is the original film, not the MST3k jokes (which do mention the touching). Is this not actual photographic evidence of normal White people poking and pawing at “others”? How typical was this?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  166. @AnotherDad

    Am I a bad person for wishing that Dr. Neil had been Chakraborted?

  167. @BB753

    “Well, let me tell you ’bout the way she looked
    The way she acts and the color of her hair
    Her voice was soft and cool, her eyes were clear and bright
    But she’s not there”

    Zombies, “She’s Not There”

  168. Rob McX says:
    @Inselaffen

    stuff like this is why cuckservative/muh classical liberal values types like Charles Murray or (especially) Claire Lehman with their recent ‘we must prevent the Ultimate Evil of white identity politics from becoming established in response to this’ style comments make me absolutely seethe – they’re even worse than the enemy.

    If the “Ultimate Evil” of white identity politics had been established in the first place, the dispossession of whites could never have even started.

  169. German version.

    Blood and soil (German: Blut und Boden) is a nationalist slogan expressing Nazi Germany’s ideal of a “racially” defined national body (“blood”) united with a settlement area (“soil”). By it, rural and farm life forms are idealized as a counterweight to urban ones.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_and_soil

  170. Rob McX says:
    @Paperback Writer

    Also handy for prosecution evidence when someone gets shot or raped.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  171. @Almost Missouri

    if you want to get a second hand copy of that book it’s quite a bit tougher nowadays – Amazon and Abebooks (and probably a few others besides) have ‘memory-holed’ it (along with many of the author’s other works, and similar books by others).

    Fortunately it’s available for free on places like archive.org, but I like my books like my Olivia Newton John – physical.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  172. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Altai

    Glad you mentioned feudalism, it’s where the ruling class is steering us, some more consciously than others.

    Increasingly the problem the rulers see with current arrangements is the uneven distribution of predation by blacks. The fig leaf they use to justify addressing this situation is that systemic racism is the only possible explanation for the current patterns of racial distribution (and resultant violence). You could almost believe that they believe that, except for their resistance to the obvious retort that rich people and neighborhoods should go “inclusive” first.

    What I think really bothers them is the idea that a working class white neighborhood COULD conceivably experience a decent community life WITHOUT paying insanely high prices for the privilege, like they do. Because blacks can’t live without fear in their own communities, everyone should have to pay large amounts of money to live without fear. Any other state is racist. So basically, police protection becomes a perk of status, not a basic expectation.

    Maybe white America will never produce a Hitler, but if we don’t produce a Slobo soon we deserve what’s coming to us.

  173. Rob McX says:
    @Mr. Anon

    It’s begun to seep into the mainstream media – FOX News at least – that all this anti-white agit-prop might lead to Whites adopting identity politics.

    If whites don’t adopt identity politics, they’re headed for extinction. White universalism versus nonwhite ethnocentrism – peashooter versus rocket launcher.

    • Agree: Mr. Anon
  174. Rob McX says:
    @El Dato

    White countries are racist for not liking them. Africa is racist for keeping them black. Poor guys can’t seem to catch a break.

  175. Rosie says:
    @El Dato

    The 20 or so activists, who had their faces covered, sought to protest what they called “racist reporting” on a high-profile incident that shocked the Alpine nation almost two weeks ago. Their outrage was apparently triggered by the fact that oe24 revealed the nationalities of suspects in a horrific rape and murder case that is still under investigation. Four Afghan nationals have been accused of drugging and raping a 13-year-old girl who was found dead in Vienna on June 26.

    Well, I’ll sleep well knowing that Swedish girls have these dedicated “feminists” looking out for their wellbeing.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  176. @Desiderius

    Oh Jesus, the “1984” dodge.

    I got news for ya, buddy: we passed the 1984 threshold a long time ago. Cameras in gov’t run classrooms will completely blow open the whole CRT sham, and a lot else.

    Everyone will be better-behaved.

    If cops are camera’d up, why not classrooms?

    • Replies: @Desiderius
  177. @Rob McX

    Exactly.

    (But….. 1984!!!)

    ((that was sarcastic.))

  178. @Steve Sailer

    I recall he was always throwing in his “I’m a devout Catholic, you know” stuff back when that was the option to take if you wanted to feel superior to hoi polloi but disliked Marxism. So I would think he forgave them or even asked them to forgive him.

    Don’t say that’s modern stuff. James Gould Couzzens’ Men and Brethren in the 1930s has scene were an Episcopal cleric (the protagonist) become nervous when some black chaps enter his subway car, and he spends the rest of the chapter upbraiding himself for his sinfulness.

  179. usNthem says:
    @CCZ

    A serious (granted, former) country should not have to put up with (or sanction) this ape like behavior. A stock and cat-o-nine tails might help in remediation.

  180. TexJ says:
    @Cho Seung-Hui

    Natives blaming immigrants? You need to read more carefully. It is, unequivocally, immigrants and their children blaming natives for the sins of some remote relative.

    But actually it was white men from Dorset and the west country who left the area, travelled around the world, colonised other countries, set up plantations, enslaving people, and they were some of the first people instrumental in setting up the systems of white supremacy that we see today.“

    Nice to come into a country and crap all over the inhabitants and then complain. “Natives blaming immigrants”. Is that what this looks like?

  181. The big chain bookstores transformed into this seemingly overnight what ten, fifteen years ago? Whenever all the Sam Harris stuff showed up. Borders went belly up not long thereafter and the two near here had been packed for years before that.

  182. @Paperback Writer

    It’s not the number of votes it’s who’s counting them. How much of that Capital video have you been able to see? You really think surveillance cops in schools are would be on your side genius?

  183. From Steve’s alt:

    don’t EVER let a brahmin-privileged turmeric monster lecture you about POC, colonialism, cultural appropriation, or representation. remind them that when lord indra arrived on the ganges in his chariot to slaughter 6 million dasyu aboriginals, the first word he said was ‘namaste’

  184. J.Ross says:
    @James J O'Meara

    I don’t recall the scene but wasn’t the context that they actually were supposed to (it’s a fair, the women are there to display and explain things) and were not just doing it incidentally? If they were just doing it incidentally then that would be very strange, especially for the time.

  185. Alden says:
    @Almost Missouri

    I have that book. Bought it many years ago. Bought 3 copies and donated 2 to the city public library. Probably purged by now.

    That’s what I used to do when I still had hopes 90 percent of Whites weren’t White hating liberals. I’d buy books like Camp of the Saints and anti communist books revealing the horrors and donate them to college and city libraries.

    Stopped a long time ago. White American race isn’t worth a $15.00 book and the effort.

  186. LP5 says:
    @J1234

    That Herriot rewrite is one of several thrusts by the Beeb and others to introduce select themes. Whether out-of-place characters, fledgling current social movements or similar modernish elements, the model is built on a familiar theory.

    That theory may be stated as follows: Just how much of X can we insert and still get Americans to subscribe, before their eventual revulsion causes a decline in subscriptions?

    That viewer base wants nostalgia, or maybe simple diversions from reality. Thus, they will have to pay for the privilege, through donations, guilt trips and indoctrination done in quaint villages with charming accents and novel wardrobes.

  187. Alden says:
    @guest

    Return of the Native I saw that movie recently. Netflix, YouTube. I watched about 1/3 of it till I realized it was another morbid Thomas Hardy depressing dirge probably ending in suicide death and misery.

    • Replies: @Studley
    , @Jim Don Bob
  188. Alden says:
    @Steve Sailer

    They were black and she never physically recovered. Her life was a round of endless Dr visits and heavy bleeding so much she became anemic from the bleeding. Burgess mentions their race very subtly in his autobiography.

  189. @anonymous

    “But actually it was white men from Dorset and the west country who left the area, travelled around the world, colonised other countries, set up plantations, enslaving people, and they were some of the first people instrumental in setting up the systems of white supremacy that we see today.

    Godlike global superheroes then. With combine harvesters and scrumpy.

  190. “When you walk into a room and you are the only person of colour, you stand out, you look different, you can’t blend into the landscape around you, but really you just feel like everyone else – I’m British.”

    Poor wee lamb. She’s right you know. Let’s break out the Cherry Blossom and rub it all over, lads. Just to make her feel at home. After all, it’s not her fault she looks weird, it’s ours.

  191. @Rosie

    Where is Vienna again? Near Black Forest Gateau, I expect. Or Danish Pastry.
    I do declare. Americans. Geography. It’s absolutely charming and traditional.

    • Replies: @Rosie
    , @Reg Cæsar
  192. Thea says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Dating is a poor way to find a spouse. It really only began with widespread use of the automobile. Our great great grandparents would be shaking their heads in dismay that we’ve normalized it for our young people.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
  193. Rosie says:
    @Expletive Deleted

    Where is Vienna again? Near Black Forest Gateau, I expect. Or Danish Pastry.
    I do declare. Americans. Geography. It’s absolutely charming and traditional.

    Lol. Yes, I know where Vienna is, stereotypes aside. I’m just so used to hearing this stuff about Sweden, I got confused for a second.

  194. @Thea

    Dating is a poor way to find a spouse.

    It’s not a way to FIND a spouse at all.

    It’s a way to test the worthiness of a person you’ve already found.

  195. @anonymous

    It wouldn’t take long before the pilgrims committed genocide against the Pequot, the first of many Native American groups annihilated by West Country settlers.

    The Pequots sided with the English in King Philip’s War. All was forgiven by then.

  196. @Expletive Deleted

    Where is Vienna again? Near Black Forest Gateau, I expect. Or Danish Pastry.

    “Danish pastry” hedder wienerbrød i Danmark, fordi det kom fra Wien.

    Wienerbrød– Wikipedia.dk

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  197. vinteuil says:
    @anonymous

    …It wouldn’t take long before the pilgrims committed genocide against the Pequot, the first of many Native American groups annihilated by West Country settlers…

    You’re not going to get far with that sort of BS around here.

  198. @Anonymous

    Nixon’s error was resigning. If he had forced them to vote for impeachment and fought against it they would have backed down or else the people would have revolted against the sham. We might be talking about the People’s Revolt of 1974-76 today if Nixon had clenched his fists and swung back.

    Remember, Nixon was incredibly popular amongst the people (carried an astounding 49 states in 1972) and reached across to both sides (withdrew from Vietnam, signed AA into action, opened with China, and yet was “law and order”) and the average person of the time knew the claims against him were nonsense and hyped selective prosecution (as Lynyrd_Skynyrd wrote in “Sweet Home Alabama”, in the guise of the average Southern person, “Watergate does not bother me”). Nixon had celebrities from all walks of life in his corner, too (James Brown, Jackie Robinson, Elvis Presley, Frank Sinatra).

    In other words, Nixon had the makings of a mass populist uprising if he had called the Deep State’s bluff. He failed to heed Vox Day’s later warnings of never resigning, and making the rubble bounce. By resigning, he gave his enemies “proof” he was a “crook.” Or so they have claimed since.

    Trump saw that, and refused to resign, forced them to impeach on sham charges, and forced them to rig a vote to take him out. And their jitteriness at even the slightest pushback shows how scared they are of a true populist revolt.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    , @ben tillman
  199. Studley says:
    @Alden

    till I realized it was another morbid Thomas Hardy depressing dirge probably ending in suicide death and misery.

    Not having read them myself but I suspect you are right in your summation of Hardy’s works from what I’ve heard.

    A silver lining, though. This Louisa Adjoa Parker and Prof Neil Chakraborty, and any other anti-white UK activist, I’d like to know their answer to the question, ““These Thomas Hardy characters, they sure had some white privilege, didn’t they?” [Given that Hardy was writing novels but familiar with the conditions of the English rural poor.]

    Would they respond, “Oh that’s just fiction.” Even though there’d be historical documents backing up Hardy’s description of rural poverty. Or, more likely, not grasp the implication, and reply, “All white people have and always have had white privilege. The question doesn’t make sense.”

    Second response, I’d guess.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  200. @Reg Cæsar

    They had some Danish woman (sporty I think) confessing this very Fact on the radio the other week. Before the Euros match, and Schmeichel getting light-sabred at the dubious “penalty”.
    Absolute travesty. Oh well, forza Italia!

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  201. @Joe Walker

    The price that the English paid to create the UK

    That’s odd.
    I cudda sworn I was taught in skool that it was a Scottish King who ascended to the English Throne.

    Funny Dat.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  202. @Ralph L

    I’m sure the shows efficacy as a marketing tool of The Home Counties Tourist Board has been substantially impaired as a result.

  203. Anon[398] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon

    Did this provoke the tweetstorm?

    This highly retweeted tweet should have been responded to:

  204. Art Deco says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Nixon’s error was resigning. If he had forced them to vote for impeachment and fought against it they would have backed down or else the people would have revolted against the sham.

    Barry Goldwater counted 15 votes in the Senate who would refuse to convict him. Nixon’s approval rating in August of 1974 was similar to George W Bush’s in October 2008. There were no makings of a revolt against any sham.

    Nicholas v. Hoffman’s interpretation of Watergate – that Nixon and his minions resorted to using off-the-books private contractors because the FBI and the IRS would not engage in the sort of skulduggery they did for Kennedy and Johnson – may well be true. However, Gordon Liddy’s crew committed real crimes, John Mitchell and Jeb Magruder countenanced what they were doing, and (we now have reason to believe), John Dean was badgering them for information which could only be had through placing wiretaps and stealing documents. (Dean has pretended for decades he knew next to nothing of the Liddy crew’s activities between January and June of 1972).

    Now, we have every reason to believe that the sort of things Nixon, Haldeman, and Eherlichman were trying to accomplish were accomplished seamlessly during the Clinton years. Susan McDougal sat in jail for 18 months rather than offer immunized testimony in front of a grand jury and the disbarred Webster Hubbell cleared over $800,000 in ‘consulting fees’ in a matter of about eight months (‘ere he had to report to federal prison).

    • Thanks: Desiderius
    • Replies: @Desiderius
    , @R.G. Camara
  205. @R.G. Camara

    as Lynyrd_Skynyrd wrote in “Sweet Home Alabama”, in the guise of the average Southern person, “Watergate does not bother me”

    Surely that’s an allusion to the campaign of George Wallace.

  206. Diane says:
    @Sick of Orcs

    No, no. It would say minorities and transwomen hit hardest.

  207. • Replies: @Jack D
  208. @Art Deco

    Still unclear whether Trump was unexpectedly clean in contrast or if Mueller and crew were just too inept to make a case and/or there was some kind of deal with Barr.

    In any event Trump of course got a lot more than 15 votes and that doubt today casts a bad light on the holistic case against Nixon in retrospect.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    , @Art Deco
  209. @Alden

    Try watching the 2015 version of Far from the Madding Crowd. I liked it better than the 1960s version with Julie Christie. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_from_the_Madding_Crowd_(2015_film)

  210. Jack D says:
    @anonymous

    It was a close run thing and could have gone the other way. The Vikings engaged in battle with the Skraelings (Indians) in Vinland (somewhere in Canada) and they mostly survived but they realized that they were outnumbered and would be subject to constant attack so they gave up and went home and no white men disturbed the Skraelings for another 400 years.

    If white men had given up permanently, we’d live in a very different world. Maybe the Pequots would still have their paradise but chances are they would have been wiped out by now by some other Indian tribe. Indians were no slouches in the genocide department when it came to rival tribes.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  211. Jack D says:
    @Desiderius

    bacha bazi was an *enemy* practice that strengthened the moral case for kicking their asses

    We spent a trillion $ and 20,000 crippled so that Afghan men could no longer be entertained by boy “dancers”? Why wasn’t I told that this was our war aim? Can we bring the troops home so that they can kick the asses of the Catholic Church and the Boy Scouts instead? Making the world Safe For Democracy was already a bit of an overreach but making the world Safe For Boy Butts is a bridge too far in nation building, wouldn’t you say? We’re in no position to teach morality to the Afghans. At least the Afghans don’t mutilate the bachi bazi and when they turn 19 they can go back to being men again.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    , @Art Deco
  212. Anonymous[792] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hangnail Hans

    It’s way too late for that. Whiskey is right, what is going on is laying the groundwork for genocide.

    The genocide is well underway. What is going on serves as a rationalization for it.

  213. Anonymous[792] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    We’re in no position to teach morality to the Afghans.

    By “position,” do you mean geographically or that we have no moral standing?

  214. Anon[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Anybody ever figure out the race of the American GIs who raped Anthony Burgess’s wife and thus provided the inspiration for “A Clockwork Orange”?

    As a rule, people of Nordic and Germanic descent don’t engage in gang rape. Same is largely true of most Western Europeans. Process of elimination.

  215. Anon[285] • Disclaimer says:
    @ThreeCranes

    Every Indian I’ve met in America I would describe as having a “haughty” demeanor.They make it obvious that they regard you as an inferior.

    At the same time, they are extraordinarily insecure and envious. Perhaps it’s just the disparity in physical talents between the two races, which, along with Indian’s guilty (or uneasy) subconscious (uneasiness at their participation in the unfolding dispossession and genocide of Whites), makes them on some level fear violence.

    • Replies: @ThreeCranes
  216. @ziggurat

    I guess I didn’t make myself clear. My personal background aside, I’m actually an immigration restrictionist. I do also believe that there is an existing animus against whites via the media, academia, etc. Lastly, I did not think that there was any blaming of immigrants within the article itself.

    That said, it seem as though internet resistance against the very real pro-immigration and anti-white media bias manifests itself in racial animus against whatever ethnicity/race happens to be the one filtering into the United States. For example, “White Nationalism” would, by definition, include the strongest proponents of the anti-white media bias. It would include the very elites that are the source of the problem. Because the people responsible for immigration policy– or to be more specific, the molding of public opinion to support mass immigration– aren’t the immigrants themselves, they are white elites. Framing it in terms of whites vs. immigrants only gives the opposing side power. And even if some sort of “White Separatist State” does get off the ground, inclusion on the basis of “whiteness” would include the people opposing its creation.

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @ziggurat
  217. @Studley

    For a total larff-riot involving shanghaied proles from either of the two largest European offshore reefs, I recommend Bill Douglas’s Comrades(1986).
    Centres around some uppity Whites from Dorset, conveniently, and how they got to tour half the world at someone else’s expense as a consequence.
    Nice work if you can get it.

    Sorry about the Frog subtitles. Seems only hostile foreigners are at all interested in this unpatriotic stuff.
    All the blacks have spears though, which is something.

  218. @Desiderius

    If Trump were dirty at all the “collusion” conspiracy theorists would have made it seem like he was sacrificing black and gay children to M*loch.

    During the run up to 2016 and aftermath many lefties accused Assange of only releasing dirt on Democrats/Clinton. Assange replied that he’d gotten some leaks about Trump, but all they showed was that Trump was the exact same person behind closed doors as he was in front of them. And nothing was criminal, unlike with Clinton.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  219. @Bill Jones

    The double kingdoms lasted until that guy’s grand-daughter Queen Anne’s time, and were finally Frankensteined together in the reign of her and her wimpy, boozy, equally obese Danish hubby.
    She’d succeeded her timid sister and that lass’s overbearing Dutch spouse, who eventually gave way to a shedload of increasingly demented Germans.
    Ireland (a third kingdom, of which stroppy fat lass Anne was also the monarch) didn’t get to join in the fun until 1801. By which time the Isles were ruled by your old German mate, George III.

    All beer and skittles after that.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
  220. @R.G. Camara

    No, it has to be that IRS never ever heard of Donald Trump until recently so they didn’t have IRS agents drawing straws to try to take him down.

    • Agree: R.G. Camara
  221. @Art Deco

    lol. Oh yes, lets all use Barry Goldwater as our metric for Nixon’s nationwide support.

    The Swamp might have said they would have convicted him, but the amount of populist support Nixon had would have put real pressure on them. And even if they’d been evil enough to convict based on Nixon merely doing what every president and major candidate had done on selective prosecution, the right would have paid the left back for the 1960s turmoil with some of its own. Remember the Hard Hat Riot? Imagine that times millions.

  222. @Expletive Deleted

    One hilarious historical irony is that the entire legal reason the English crown claimed to be Lord of Ireland was because the sole English pope had issued that right to the English crown (under the bull Laudibiliter ) on the basis that the Celtic Church was far too heretical in its practices, so it needed the very-catholic-English to rule it and get rid of the heresy.

    In other words, England got to rule Ireland to make it more Catholic.

    And then when Henry 8 decided to kick out the Church, the legal justification was obviously scuttered, but they still held it with some tenuous/non-existant legal reasoning to justify it. And the Irish got very more conformist with Rome in order to oppose the English. In 1801 the English just got rid of the fiction and wholesale incorporated Ireland, using the 1791 rebellions as an excuse.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  223. Art Deco says:
    @Desiderius

    No, it’s quite clear there was no case, and the Mueller crew abandoned any effort to make one in late 2017. Most of their man-hours went into attempting to gin up an obstruction-of-justice case against the President. There was no underlying crime and the elements of ‘obstruction of justice’ included such things as firing an employee who had lied to him.

    What ‘deal’ with Barr?

    I think the most plausible explanation of Barr’s conduct over the years is (1) while not a DoJ lifer like Mueller, Rosenstein, and Comey, he’s a defender of its institutional interests and (2) Andrew Weissmann’s attempt to generate a self-licking ice cream cone wherein he makes the case the president is criminally liable for obstructing Weissmann’s obstruction investigation might trigger a backlash from disgusted public officials and lead to a general purge of the corps of federal prosecutors. (Paul Craig Roberts has been making the case for some time that the institutional culture of the Department of Justice rewards prosecutorial misconduct).

    Another feature is more personal. A lawyer I correspond with told me during the whole Mueller investigation that as far as he could see, Mueller was a figurehead and the work was being done by his subordinates. Then we learn at the end that he cannot testify in front of Congress without a minder present, he evades all questions by referring to the report, and he professes to have never heard of Fusion GPS. Barr’s wife and Mueller’s wife are known to be friends and it’s a reasonable inference that Barr was fully aware that Mueller’s non compos mentis. Barr wanted the job to stage an intervention.

    The Epstein ‘suicide’ and it’s aftermath, the Durham ‘investigation’, and his public remarks on election fraud when it was plain his office had done nothing to investigate reveal he was never on the level.

    • Agree: Desiderius
    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Desiderius
  224. Art Deco says:
    @R.G. Camara

    The Irish seigneurial class was too refractory to assemble a territorial state. Ditto the Welsh. Ditto the Romano-British lords pushed aside by the Angles, Saxons, and Jutes. The wages of that were being conquered.

  225. Art Deco says:
    @Jack D

    We spent a trillion

    A grand total of 1% of our military manpower was stationed in Afghanistan. No, we did not spend that amount of money.

    • Replies: @res
  226. res says:
    @Art Deco

    Here is one estimate.
    https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2021-04-30/counting-the-costs-of-americas-20-year-war-in-afghanistan

    The Defense Department’s latest 2020 report said war-fighting costs totaled $815.7 billion over the years. That covers the operating costs of the U.S. military in Afghanistan, everything from fuel and food to Humvees, weapons and ammunition, from tanks and armored vehicles to aircraft carriers and airstrikes.

    Then there is this.

    Unlike with other conflicts in American history, the U.S. borrowed heavily to fund the war in Afghanistan and has paid some $530 billion in interest. It has also paid $296 billion in medical and other care for veterans, according to Costs of War. It will continue to pay both those expenses for years to come.

    • Thanks: Desiderius
  227. @Art Deco

    A deal to shut down the Mueller fiasco in exchange for not going after the people responsible for it. My guess is that everything is downstream from a concerted bipartisan effort to stop Bernie which would explain the strange reluctance of Rs including Barr to delve into anything.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  228. @res

    Hanania’s pinned tweet goes into some detail on the unconscionable waste and corruption that was involved and long ongoing.

    This above anything else radicalized me and turned me against wars I once supported and the men who advocated (and still advocate!) for continuing this travesty. This is where that 8-2 en banc came from as well.

  229. Dissident says:
    @Dissident

    The school has been in continuous operation on the same site for over 1,300 years.

    [Emphasis added] No one else found this remarkable?


    HRH The Prince of Wales, later King Edward VIII, visiting Sherborne School on 19 July 1923.

    • Replies: @anon
  230. ziggurat says:
    @Cho Seung-Hui

    That said, it seem as though internet resistance against the very real pro-immigration and anti-white media bias manifests itself in racial animus against whatever ethnicity/race happens to be the one filtering into the United States.

    I don’t really see or hear that very much. However, what I do see and hear is the constant alarmism regarding any advocacy for less immigration. If you complain about the impact on wages, then the reaction has been (for the last 20 years) that you are racist, anti-immigrant, or scapegoating/blaming immigrants.

    In 2001, the founder of Earth Day was complaining that anyone who wants to reduce immigration is called a racist.

    Q. What is the number one environmental problem facing the earth today?

    A. If you had to choose just one, it would have to be population. . . . The bigger the population gets, the more serious the problems become. . . . We have to address the population issue. The United Nations, with the U.S. supporting it, took the position in Cairo in 1994 that every country was responsible for stabilizing its own population. It can be done. But in this country, it’s phony to say “I’m for the environment but not for limiting immigration.” It’s just a fact that we can’t take all the people who want to come here. And you don’t have to be a racist to realize that. However, the subject has been driven out of public discussion because everybody is afraid of being called racist if they say they want any limits on immigration.
    https://web.archive.org/web/20010603113027/http://www.jsonline.com/news/metro/apr01/five22s1042101a.asp

    Framing it in terms of whites vs. immigrants only gives the opposing side power.

    I agree that would be a mistake. This is why Numbers USA is very much opposed to “immigrant bashing”. It feeds into the anti-white narrative, which is that white people are evil, anti-immigrant racists. Also, it would result in a loss of allies, as many whites are married to immigrants, or have friendships/coworkers. Also, there are many immigrants themselves (or ones with recent immigrant heritage) who are opposed to mass immigration.

    But I don’t think many people are framing the issues as “whites vs immigrants”.

    And even if some sort of “White Separatist State” does get off the ground, inclusion on the basis of “whiteness” would include the people opposing its creation.

    A “white separatist state” could not even get off the ground, as long as the “anti-white-ism” ideology is so powerful.

    Also, I don’t think most whites necessarily want a 100% white state, nor do they want their various countries to be divided. Mainly, they just want a good place for whites to live, which is safe and feels like home. The key to getting that is to stop “anti-whiteness” and the related meme pathogens that support it.
    http://anti-whiteism.com/

  231. Art Deco says:
    @res

    Unlike with other conflicts in American history, the U.S. borrowed heavily to fund the war in Afghanistan

    That’s an indicator that the author doesn’t know what he’s talking about. US Treasury issues are generic. Borrowing finances all federal expenditures. ‘Overseas contingency operations’ at their peak accounted for < 5% of all federal expenditure.

  232. Art Deco says:
    @Desiderius

    My guess is that everything is downstream from a concerted bipartisan effort to stop Bernie which would explain the strange reluctance of Rs including Barr to delve into anything.

    Don’t think it has a bloody thing to do with Bernie.

    In re Epstein, he’s equipped with paper sheets, there’s no place in the cell to affix a makeshift noose that’s more than six feet off the ground, his hyoid bone is broken, his cell mate had been transferred, the security cameras outside his cell malfunction, the guards sleep on the job (and get a slap on the wrist for it), and security camera footage of the pathway from the entrance of the jail to his cell is strangely forgotten by everyone reporting on the story. And Wm. Barr discovers flat nothing. He was never worth anything. He just wasn’t as down with creative prosecutorial abuse as Andrew Weissmann.

  233. @Anon

    Yours is a very perspicacious comment.

  234. anon[847] • Disclaimer says:
    @Dissident

    No one else found this remarkable?

    No one else bothered to read your SPAM, dude. Do it on your own website.

  235. @res

    Unlike with other conflicts in American history, the U.S. borrowed heavily to fund the war in Afghanistan and has paid some $530 billion in interest. It has also paid $296 billion in medical and other care for veterans, according to Costs of War. It will continue to pay both those expenses for years to come.

    You gotta love the way these people make things up as they go along. Debt has *always* been part of US wars. You don’t permanently raise taxes to finance wars. Wars may feel like they’ve lasted forever, but they generally don’t. Liberty bonds were needed to finance WWI.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_bond

    Series E bonds were issued to finance WWII.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_E_bond

    As to postwar costs, the veterans of WWI and WWII had many more problems due to the intensely unpleasant environments in which so many soldiers served as well as the constant exposure to enemy ordnance that was no different in quality from what Uncle Sam threw at the enemy. Basically these people are deliberately skipping any delving into historical sources in order to make their point. I’d call them lazy, but this is really bare-faced deceit no different from what they employed to make saints out of George Floyd and Trayvon Martin.

    • Replies: @TexJ
    , @res
  236. TexJ says:
    @Johann Ricke

    If prior to the Afghanistan war, the US put on the “Afghanistan sales tax” and then added, on top of this, “the Iraq VAT”, and the “Iraq War 2 Gas Tax”, I think our military and financial posture would be far more sane. The upcoming War with China over defending Taiwan Electricity Levy might or might not go over. I favor extending this concept to everything we do: the Defend Germany (Which Spends 1% GDP on defense) Marginal Tax Rate Addition and the Home Purchase Tax to Provide For Illegal Immigrants are absolutely taxes I can get behind…. proposing.

  237. res says:
    @Johann Ricke

    You and Art Deco are right to call out the nonsense that borrowing to fund war is an anomaly. I should have been more critical when I quoted that. Responding to your comment because it has more substance.

    Here is a more detailed analysis. It lumps Afghanistan and Iraq together though.
    https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/files/cow/imce/papers/2020/Peltier%202020%20-%20The%20Cost%20of%20Debt-financed%20War.pdf

    Here is how it describes things.

    This level of borrowing to pay for the post-9/11 wars has been unique. Since the country’s founding, U.S. wars have been funded at least partly through revenues raised specifically for that purpose, including war bonds and direct taxes levied for war. As noted by Boston University political scientist Rosella Cappella-Zielinski, “Taxation as a percent of war finance was significant during the World Wars, meeting 30 percent of the cost of World War I and almost 50 percent of the cost of World War II, and peaked as a method of war finance during the Korean War, which was fully financed by taxes. Starting with the Civil War and ending with the Korean War, the government made a systematic effort to pay for its wars via direct taxation (2018, p. 3).”

    With the post-9/11 wars, however, the U.S. Congress has not specifically solicited funds for war, and therefore war spending has come from general federal government revenues. Rather than raising taxes or shifting funds from other parts of the federal budget, the Bush administration cut taxes while increasing war spending, moving the nation out of budgetary surplus and into deficit spending, which in turn increased the national debt and the interest that must be paid on that debt. Since September 2001, U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and later Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, and other areas related to the Global War on Terror, have been funded entirely through borrowing – both from domestic sources as well as foreign. About 40 percent of the post-9/11 wars have been financed by foreign borrowing.2

    Hopefully that more nuanced take helps explain things. Especially note the Korean War comparison. That war seems like a much better analog to Afghanistan than WWI or WWII.

    Regarding post-war costs. I would say compared to what was achieved the post-war costs for Afghanistan are exorbitant. I suspect there is a lot more gold plating of care (some good, some less so) now so the per injury cost is probably much higher.

    It is one thing to pay and sacrifice heavily to achieve something like WWII. Afghanistan is a very different matter. That you resort to WWI and WWII for comparison says a lot IMHO.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  238. @res

    This level of borrowing to pay for the post-9/11 wars has been unique. Since the country’s founding, U.S. wars have been funded at least partly through revenues raised specifically for that purpose, including war bonds and direct taxes levied for war. As noted by Boston University political scientist Rosella Cappella-Zielinski, “Taxation as a percent of war finance was significant during the World Wars, meeting 30 percent of the cost of World War I and almost 50 percent of the cost of World War II, and peaked as a method of war finance during the Korean War, which was fully financed by taxes. Starting with the Civil War and ending with the Korean War, the government made a systematic effort to pay for its wars via direct taxation (2018, p. 3).”

    With the post-9/11 wars, however, the U.S. Congress has not specifically solicited funds for war, and therefore war spending has come from general federal government revenues. Rather than raising taxes or shifting funds from other parts of the federal budget, the Bush administration cut taxes while increasing war spending, moving the nation out of budgetary surplus and into deficit spending, which in turn increased the national debt and the interest that must be paid on that debt. Since September 2001, U.S.-led wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and later Syria, Yemen, Pakistan, and other areas related to the Global War on Terror, have been funded entirely through borrowing – both from domestic sources as well as foreign. About 40 percent of the post-9/11 wars have been financed by foreign borrowing.2

    Again, they’re lying through their teeth. WWII used up, at its peak, over 40% of national output per year. They did not quadruple taxes from roughly 10% of GDP to 40% of GDP. Saying that dedicated war bonds are the equivalent of raising taxes is the equivalent of crapping on the facts and saying there’s a mudslide. The reason “war bonds” weren’t issued for Afghanistan and Iraq is because war spending, at about $100b a year, on average, is a piddling amount of the economy.

    https://www.cbo.gov/system/files?file=2018-10/54219-oco_spending.pdf

    And by piddling, I mean .5% out of a $20T economy. In WWII, it peaked at over 40%.

    For 4 years. That’s over a year of economic output flushed down the drain. Whereas in 20 years of Afghanistan and Iraq, we’ve spent just 18 days of economic output.

    The idea that we got something good out of WWII is a fallacy. Like all war, it was an unmitigated disaster. We lost 400K dead, including some of our best, most aggressive and brightest young men. It cost more than a year of output. The only saving grace is that we avoided the threat of either being ruled by one of the Axis powers or the Soviet Union.

    It’s not very different from what we got from Afghanistan and Iraq. They were punitive expeditions mounted under politically-correct rules. What we got from that is that would-be Saladins in the region know that we might not be there forever, but we’ll be there long enough to thwart their ambitions in their lifetimes *and* put them in the ground.

    Remember – all this was a response to Saddam’s relentless drive to annex his oil-rich neighbors, as well as bin Laden’s attack on New York and DC. The implicit threat is that if they start throwing nukes around, we will burn them to the ground.

    The unfortunate aspect of the lawyerly stranglehold over the armed forces is that we can’t express traditional strategic and national interests bluntly any more. Before WWII, we had a Department of War. Its purpose was to fight wars to advance the nation’s interests. Now, with a Department of Defense, we have to talk about nation-building and throw some money in its direction. The truly regrettable aspect of all this is that we could have finished these wars at a fraction of the cost we incurred in human terms, casualty-wise, for ally and adversary alike, had we merely allowed our local allies to adopt the rules we took up during the pacification of the Philippines:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine%E2%80%93American_War#Atrocities

  239. 1John says:
    @Mike Tre

    Ref. “White Europeans”, this is redundant as Europeans r White. One more explanation as to y we Europeans have a problem, we don’t even know what race we r.

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