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From the frontscreen of NYTimes.com:

A Year After Trump, Diversity Has Its Day

By MICHAEL TACKETT, TRIP GABRIEL and JOHN ELIGON 7:21 PM ET

A transgender lawmaker in Virginia, a Sikh mayor in New Jersey and a refugee mayor in Montana: Were these Democratic victories a rebuke of President Trump or sign of change?

The unstated problem with the Democrats’ Coalition of the Fringes strategy is that the only common denominator they’ve been able to think of to hold their fringes together is by stoking hatred of the cishet white man, such as in all the nationally publicized Hate Hoaxes.

In turn, that hate leads to “It’s okay to be white” fliers.

 
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  1. Guess I’m crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I’m down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I’ll need to start looking abroad.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    Liberals are already a majority in Jackson Hole and are extremely wealthy. Most of the Republicans who get elected statewide are not people you can trust. I think something like a third of the people in Alaska are Federal Government employees.
    , @dr kill
    Cross off AK, too. It's like Warminster PA with snow. Everyone is on the dole. They just have a great PR agency.
    , @Flip
    I am thinking Idaho, although eastern Washington could work due to the lack of a state income tax.
    , @jJay
    Mr. Blank,

    I have looked at Wyoming too. Go to Zillow and check out the real estate prices in and around Jackson Hole. It might as well be coastal California. From City-Data.com Jackson Hole residents voted Democrat over Republican by an almost 2:1 margin in the 2016 election.

    Wyoming is staying red, at least partly,because the native ranchers won't sell to developers that will allow Jackson Hole to expand much. That my guess, anyway. I'd like to hear from someone with closer to situation though.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    After that I’ll need to start looking abroad.
     
    Yes, because there are lots of places that will take you in 'over there' and you will be safe because they will respect the rule of law. Oh, but then they will take your money. And, oh, but then they will take your life. And then you will realize that they don't care about the rule of law, or justice, or equal treatment. And, BTW, it is really hard to recover from being dead.

    Or maybe you could put your shoulder to the wheel here, and help the rest of us turn our ship-of-state around?

    If you are paying attention, then you ought to have the gallows in sight. If so, then, as a consequence, your mind ought to be focused.

    There is nowhere else to go. Cowboy up, or willingly consign yourself to the Gulag.

    Make no mistake, the Gulag is what the Left (Democrats, and Republican whores), have in mind.
    , @Lagertha
    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as "states rights" and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants - because: Mormons. Also, Arizona is good if you are rich...or have enough savings to hang with the well-off in Sedona, or something. Everywhere else, you better have good guns.
    , @Lagertha
    Iceland is nice..crappy weather..but. we could have a whole lotta people hang out with us!
    , @Diversity Heretic
    Given the present trends in the U.S., I'd start looking abroad sooner rather than later. Changing countries is much harder than changing states. What is your foreign language capability?
    , @Corvinus
    But it's ok to be white, so there is no need to relocate.
    , @EdwardM
    I am looking at Tennessee. It's among the most Republican states now and, although seemingly not as culturally conservative as, say, Wyoming, it has better weather and checks a lot of boxes. Low taxes, and Nashville is booming.
    , @Issac
    Deep wilderness is a poor substitute for year-round blue water port access. You don't need to bolthole on the coast per se, but you had better have a way to get there on short notice. Access and ability to sail on a 20'+ with reasonable draft is ideal. Brush up on your Spanish if you aren't in the mood to cross an ocean.
    , @donut
    I'm thinking Baltimore because 65 % of the pop. will have killed each other within 10 days and I can hold out that long .
  2. The Republicans Coalition of Cucks Strategy:

    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/928430540063166466

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Lurker
    https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1494/91/1494910533812.png
    , @Thomas
    To an extent, we’re going to have to expect things to get worse before they get better. Trump blew through the lies of cuckservatism and won the highest office as a political newcomer, but he has the problem of not having come with a real party or even much of a movement following him. It was naive to expect that swamp Republicans were all going to admit that they’ve spent the last 20 years completely screwing up and getting wrong the subject of their careers and lifelong ambitions.

    We have to expect, and even to an extent welcome, 2018 and even perhaps 2020 ending the careers of many of these dead-enders, and finally consigning the “party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan” to the same grave as those dead idols.
    , @Jason Liu
    The average minority IS more naturally conservative than their white liberal allies. The Republicans' error is assuming that translates into votes for them when in fact, tribalism trumps all things.
  3. Obviously, their strategy has been completely validated by the victory in Virginia of a cishet white male army doctor, married with children.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    Who blew a dog whistle regarding Sanctuary Cities?
  4. Republicans have too many bad policies to win just on immigration.

    • Agree: Seamus Padraig
    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    The tax reform has to abandon the pretense that it is still 1980.

    Tax-exempt foundations should disperse 10% per annum, rather than the existing 5%. That should destroy most of them through attrition, depriving a major source of funding for the left.

    Capital gains should be subject to ordinary income tax rates, at least for the billionaire class. They should also be taxed to shore up the entitlement programs. This will also help reduce the impact of asset-price bubbles.

    A tax on remittances should be enacted, it should first pay for the border wall. When the wall is complete it should be used for infrastructure spending, and possibly a child tax credit that only goes to the middle class.

    Mandatory E-Verify should be included as part of the tax reform. It will certainly increase revenue.

    If the GOP stops being cuckolded by billionaires...
  5. Does the NYT style guide require every story to have a Trump hook?

    Is there any story idea more banal than a rhetorical question about Trump? News reporting is passe.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    No, NYT has become so macabre/disgusting...everyday, every fracking day, it is : Trump bad. But, you know what? - they are losers...the worker bees there, the semi-important "talent" aren't rich enough to send their kids (if they have them) to college -they are all F&cked with Trump or without Trump - that's the truth. NYC, LA, Boston, Denver, Austin, SF sucks for people who don't have millions in their bank.
    , @Anon7
    Yes! Back when I sometimes read the NYT, I began to notice that every story took some some kind of swipe at Donald Trump. It's one of the reasons that I never read it anymore, on any subject. When stories on science, technology, business, history, sports, everything had a manipulative political comment embedded, you can't trust any of it. So why read it?

    I liked your comment about the NYT style guide, which we can call the "Slim guide' after Carlos.
  6. Who gave this mandate that the country had to sign on to the Holy Grail of Diversity and when did it exactly begin?

    When I came to America from India over 30 years ago as a graduate student, one of the most attractive features for me here was the lack of diversity (as we understand it today). I positively didn’t want to be surrounded by Third Worlders.

    Thank God I didn’t have to deal with this disgrace –

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/education/edlife/american-graduate-student-stem.html

    • Replies: @Demosthenes Rapaport
    You're from India, huh? So you don't think you could benefit from diverse African Americans teaching you about the horrors of poverty?
  7. NJ was a disaster because Christie, somewhere between the bridge and his insane presidential ambitions, killed his own party’s chances. And New Jerseyans instead elected a Goldman Sachs guy which worked so well with Jon Corzine.In debates Murphy even had the moderator saying he was lying through his teeth. Good frickin’ luck.

    Gillespie was a GOP swamp lobbyist from Bush HQ who paid lip service to Trumpism. And north VA is swamp central. And please, Dems, run that Stars and Bars/Gadsen flag truck ad everywhere next year.Remind Whitey you hate them every chance you get.

    If Trump doesn’t get immigration and taxes done, and keeps the wars going, the GOP is going to have a rough time in 2018. But If he can herd Ryan, McConnell and their cats to do those things, he will be in good position for 2020.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    When we learn that the two-party system no longer works?
  8. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    Liberals are already a majority in Jackson Hole and are extremely wealthy. Most of the Republicans who get elected statewide are not people you can trust. I think something like a third of the people in Alaska are Federal Government employees.

    • Replies: @bomag
    Wyoming's motto is, "The Equality State".
  9. Except that it’s not OK to be white.

    Give me a call when a business leader or politician explicitly states that it’s OK to be white. I do my own little part by teaching my kids that they should be proud of their European heritage and quietly proclaiming the same in public.

    This isn’t my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.

    We’re all Jews now. Act like it.

    • Agree: BB753
    • Replies: @gal
    >>We're all Jews now. Act like it.

    Absolutely brilliant. Am stealing it. I also teach my children to be proud of European heritage. I also think we could learn something about tribal identity from the Jews.
    , @advancedatheist
    The investment guru Marc Faber said it's more than okay to be white. John Derbyshire's blog on this site a couple weeks back praised Faber for his candor.
    , @Moses

    We’re all Jews now. Act like it.
     
    This is the truth.

    The Jews are great at staying cohesive and protecting their group interests (see response to Larry David SNL monologue). Study them. Emulate them.
    , @Corvinus
    "This isn’t my country anymore. I just live here like the rest."

    It was never YOUR country to begin with. It is OUR nation. Now, unless you can prove that your ancestors directly came from Great Britain and are thus properly equipped to put into practice Anglo-Saxon political philosophies, as theorized by Vox Day, then you must go back.

    Besides, is not your advice that "We're all Jews now. Act like it" run counter to the current meme of the day "It's ok to be white"? Where is your loyalty to us "good whites"? Make up your mind.
    , @Kevin C.

    This isn’t my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.

    We’re all Jews now. Act like it.
     
    I think you'd really like this guy, because it sounds like you have the same ideas as him with his "Western diaspora".
  10. Not just the hate hoaxes. Don’t forget the pick-up truck ad in Virginia.

  11. From the article:

    Jenny Durkan, who will be Seattle’s first openly lesbian mayor and its first female mayor since the 1920s

    They conveniently fail to mention that she was running against another woman (Cary Moon), so no matter who won they could still claim this as a diversity victory.

    Born in New York and raised in Puerto Rico, [Michelle De La Isla] became homeless at 17 and pregnant at 19. A pastor at the church where she sang in the choir told her she was smart and should go to college on the mainland.

    Wow, very progressive! A straight, religious, American woman (who happens to have grown up in Puerto Rico, also part of America) became mayor of Topeka! Times must be changing indeed. Oh, but wait…

    http://cjonline.com/news/local/2017-08-02/first-openly-gay-mayoral-candidate-says-he-received-death-threats-during

    Former mayoral candidate Chris Schultz said Wednesday he received death threats during the primary race.

    “It was kind of traumatizing,” he said, adding Topeka has ways to go to become a more accepting community.

    Schultz, the city’s first openly gay candidate for mayor, said he believes the threats were probably made in reaction to his sexual orientation.

    The NYT won’t report on this though, will they?

    • Replies: @D. K.
    Jenny Durkan and I were 1Ls together, thirty-five years ago, at the University of Washington School of Law. She was very friendly and very well-liked, including by me. Another of our classmates has been the King County Prosecutor, for many years now, and is married to another of our classmates, an in-house lawyer for Microsoft (and the first woman that I dated, after moving to Seattle for law school). Another of our classmates was allegedly rubbed out by the Mob, but I have yet to find proof of that claim....
  12. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    Cross off AK, too. It’s like Warminster PA with snow. Everyone is on the dole. They just have a great PR agency.

  13. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    I am thinking Idaho, although eastern Washington could work due to the lack of a state income tax.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    Democrats just won control of the State Senate in Washington. They now control both houses and the governorship. And demographic trends will make Washington ever more blue. I wouldn't count on that no income tax status. Washington is likely to become as f'd up as California.
    , @Olorin
    Seattle's going to amend the state constitution to steal another 15% of workers' wages.

    Anything but require online sales tax (Amazon's going to do, what, a trillion in sales in 2017?).

    $15 an hour minimum wage will thus turn into $12.75. Unless there's a carve-out for minimum wage. In which case yet again the productive middle working and entrepreneurial classes will take the shaft.

    California uber alles, uber alles California.

  14. Serious question- Did any GOP candidate have Trump appear with him?

  15. @eah
    The Republicans Coalition of Cucks Strategy:

    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/928430540063166466

    • Replies: @eah
    https://johndenugent.com/images/white-woman-subway-diversity-blacks-326x245.jpg
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Lurker, the "magic" student that will make all the other kids succeed.
  16. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    Mr. Blank,

    I have looked at Wyoming too. Go to Zillow and check out the real estate prices in and around Jackson Hole. It might as well be coastal California. From City-Data.com Jackson Hole residents voted Democrat over Republican by an almost 2:1 margin in the 2016 election.

    Wyoming is staying red, at least partly,because the native ranchers won’t sell to developers that will allow Jackson Hole to expand much. That my guess, anyway. I’d like to hear from someone with closer to situation though.

    • Replies: @bomag
    Jackson Hole's popularity is from the spectacular view of the Grand Tetons. It is largely anomalous from the rest of the state price wise; but in general, anything in sight of a scenic mountain or stream brings prices in excess of ag's earning power; those parts are trending towards a "boutique" mentality with SWPL sensibilities and all that.
    , @Marty T
    That's just one town. Wyoming was the most pro Trump state in the 2016 election. And just because one town in Montana elected a refugee, again, there are many towns in the state.

    I think conservatives should colonize Maine which is moving our way politically.
  17. @eah
    The Republicans Coalition of Cucks Strategy:

    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/928430540063166466

    To an extent, we’re going to have to expect things to get worse before they get better. Trump blew through the lies of cuckservatism and won the highest office as a political newcomer, but he has the problem of not having come with a real party or even much of a movement following him. It was naive to expect that swamp Republicans were all going to admit that they’ve spent the last 20 years completely screwing up and getting wrong the subject of their careers and lifelong ambitions.

    We have to expect, and even to an extent welcome, 2018 and even perhaps 2020 ending the careers of many of these dead-enders, and finally consigning the “party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan” to the same grave as those dead idols.

    • Replies: @Ragno
    I agree, and that is maybe the only silver lining here.

    Trumo's overwhelming problem is that he does not have, and is probably incapable of designing, a Trump philosophy with which to build a movement and - most important - groom Congressional adjutants and successors.

    But the worst thing he could have done, in my estimation, is to dump Bannon (at least for public consumption) and replace him with Kushner. Last November, many people voted for Trump for many reasons, not all of them related to him - a lot of people, for instance, were crossing their fingers if not holding their noses and voting against Hillary. Many voted for the promise of having a Bannon among the WH brain trust after an eternity of hollow men in dark suits.

    Nobody voted for Kushner.

    I do not view Tuesday as an asymptonatic speed bump, although the treachery and incompetence of vast portions of the GOP made it inevitable, and even a good thing. But let's for God's sake have a lot more Bannon, even in shadow, and a lot less Jared and Ivanka these next two years. We didn't give him the damn job just so he could go one-up on Dubya as a Bibi buddy.

    , @Kevin C.

    To an extent, we’re going to have to expect things to get worse before they get better.
     
    Fixed that for you.

    We have to expect, and even to an extent welcome, 2018 and even perhaps 2020 ending the careers of many of these dead-enders
     
    And when those who replace the "dead-enders" end up behaving exactly like them? What makes you think those we vote in over the "swamp Republicans" will be any less "swamp Republicans" themselves?
  18. … she was running against another woman (Cary Moon) …

    “Cary Moo-ooo-ooo-ooo-ooon, she’s a Unitarian, Cary Moon, Cary Moon” See, now you’ve gone and done it – I’m gonna have that song in my head for the rest of the evening.

    “She don’t eat meat, but she sure likes to the bone.”

  19. @MG
    Who gave this mandate that the country had to sign on to the Holy Grail of Diversity and when did it exactly begin?

    When I came to America from India over 30 years ago as a graduate student, one of the most attractive features for me here was the lack of diversity (as we understand it today). I positively didn’t want to be surrounded by Third Worlders.

    Thank God I didn’t have to deal with this disgrace -

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/03/education/edlife/american-graduate-student-stem.html

    You’re from India, huh? So you don’t think you could benefit from diverse African Americans teaching you about the horrors of poverty?

  20. You sure the ‘fringes’ aren’t fast becoming the ‘core’? VA just got its first transgendered delegate, and White straight cis-male mayors are becoming fewer and fewer.

    And one who is still mayor is married to a Black lesbian.

    • Replies: @Marat
    On a related note, your employing their terminology (cis-male), demonstrates absorption into general circulation.

    Who knew those lefties mastered both Organic Chemistry nomenclature and Latin, besides Greek?
  21. Anon • Disclaimer says: • Website

    It’s more like Divierarchy than Diversity. It’s about the hierarchy of diversity.

    The key invasive group is Mexicans and Hispanics. And most of them don’t rise very high. They come to work as helots and neo-serfs for the more successful urban whites, Jews, Asians, and agro-oligarchs. They don’t come for equality. They have misery at home, so they would rather come to work as servants of more successful people. It aint much by American standards but much better than what they got back home.

    So, that is the symbiotic relations between Proglob and Meso-Americans. They will never be equal, but Proglob get cheap and docile servant labor. And Mesos are useful as buffer against black crime and pathology. In turn, Meso-Americans gain a foothold in gringoland. It may not be much, but it’s still preferable to living in nations ruled by Latino elites who are terrible and utterly without scruples.

    Elite-Helot Strategy.

    After all, even though the commercial showed Mexicans running from a white man in a truck, the fact is these browns run from brown nations to work for white men with businesses, offices, farms, and yes, even trucks.

    • Replies: @Hail

    It’s more like Divierarchy than Diversity
     
    Multicultacracy.
    , @AnotherDad
    The laughable thing there was an ad--supposedly from Mexican org--casting the dreaded pickup truck as devil incarnate.

    Sorry, but Mexicans just don't find pickup trucks scary and racist like the Jews, who actually created that ad. In fact, lots of Mexicans come here precisely to be able to afford a nice pickup truck.
  22. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Except that it's not OK to be white.

    Give me a call when a business leader or politician explicitly states that it's OK to be white. I do my own little part by teaching my kids that they should be proud of their European heritage and quietly proclaiming the same in public.

    This isn't my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.

    We're all Jews now. Act like it.

    >>We’re all Jews now. Act like it.

    Absolutely brilliant. Am stealing it. I also teach my children to be proud of European heritage. I also think we could learn something about tribal identity from the Jews.

    • Agree: fish
  23. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Except that it's not OK to be white.

    Give me a call when a business leader or politician explicitly states that it's OK to be white. I do my own little part by teaching my kids that they should be proud of their European heritage and quietly proclaiming the same in public.

    This isn't my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.

    We're all Jews now. Act like it.

    The investment guru Marc Faber said it’s more than okay to be white. John Derbyshire’s blog on this site a couple weeks back praised Faber for his candor.

  24. OT

    Another kind of coalition:

    Pension Bailout Bill To Be Introduced This Week

    According to Pensions and Investments magazine, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio plans to introduce legislation that would allow struggling multiemployer pension funds to borrow from the U.S. Treasury to remain solvent…The bill, which is co-sponsored by another Democrat, Rep. Tim Ryan, also of Ohio, could be introduced as soon as this week or shortly after. It would create a new office within the Treasury Department called the Pension Rehabilitation Administration. The funds would come from the sale of Treasury-issued bonds to financial institutions. The pension funds could borrow for 30 years at low interest rates. The one, and painfully amusing, restriction for borrowers is “they could not make risky investments”, which of course will be promptly circumvented in hopes of generating outsized returns and repaying the Treasury’s “bailout” loan, ultimately leading to massive losses on what is effectively a taxpayer-funded pension bailout.

    A conspiracy coalition of corrupt, greedy public officials and employee unions has for decades fleeced taxpayers with unaffordably generous and therefore chronically and hopelessly underfunded pay, benefit, and pension schemes — they will now try to widen the net of those responsible for the costs to include future generations of federal taxpayers.

    • Replies: @Bugg
    “They could not make risky investments”-. This kind of stupidity of a risky investment. Kinda like letting the federal government borrow more and more money with no real spending cuts is considered a "clean" debt deal. They keep defining fiscal deviancy down.
    , @Seamus Padraig
    I'd rather have the money going to retirees than banksters.
    , @FPD72
    I think the bill is intended to bail out private sector [“multi-employer”] union pension funds, not funds for government employees. This is about helping Teamsters, not teachers.
    , @Forbes
    Your description is a bit off. What are known as 'multiemployer pensions' are labor union pension plans. There are any number of union pension plans nearing default because the underlying funding mechanism is Ponzi-like. The long ago mob-controlled Central States Pension Plan (Teamsters' Union) is at the center of this controversy. It was run/controlled out of Ohio.

    This new Pension Rehabilitation Administration would be on top of the existing (1970s era) Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation. The PBGC already covers such multiemployer union pension plans, although the 'guaranteed' pension benefit tops out at around $30,000 per year per beneficiary. In the case of the CSPP, the PBGC benefit is about $35 per month per year worked.

    The CSPP rehabilitation was rejected as inadequate by Obama's Treasury in 2016. This effort is the latest in taxpayer bailouts for the too big to fail crowd.
    , @dc.sunsets

    A conspiracy coalition of corrupt, greedy public officials and employee unions has for decades fleeced taxpayers with unaffordably generous and therefore chronically and hopelessly underfunded pay, benefit, and pension schemes
     

    Who, exactly, was fleeced?


    Emphasis on "was." If the pensions were to be paid out as promised, yes---absolutely it will be taxpayers. If, however, we admit that what can't be paid won't be paid, I'd say it was the employees for whom their pension was nothing less than deferred compensation.

    BTW, of course the plan is to let Uncle Sam put other people's bills on his Mastercard. The entire assumption is that Uncle's card has NO CREDIT LIMIT, and that if getting to $20 trillion in IOU's didn't break the entire monetary, economic and political system, neither will $40 trillion nor $400 trillion. After all, it's just numbers.
  25. @al-Gharaniq
    From the article:

    Jenny Durkan, who will be Seattle’s first openly lesbian mayor and its first female mayor since the 1920s
     
    They conveniently fail to mention that she was running against another woman (Cary Moon), so no matter who won they could still claim this as a diversity victory.

    Born in New York and raised in Puerto Rico, [Michelle De La Isla] became homeless at 17 and pregnant at 19. A pastor at the church where she sang in the choir told her she was smart and should go to college on the mainland.
     
    Wow, very progressive! A straight, religious, American woman (who happens to have grown up in Puerto Rico, also part of America) became mayor of Topeka! Times must be changing indeed. Oh, but wait...

    http://cjonline.com/news/local/2017-08-02/first-openly-gay-mayoral-candidate-says-he-received-death-threats-during

    Former mayoral candidate Chris Schultz said Wednesday he received death threats during the primary race.


    “It was kind of traumatizing,” he said, adding Topeka has ways to go to become a more accepting community.

    Schultz, the city’s first openly gay candidate for mayor, said he believes the threats were probably made in reaction to his sexual orientation.
     
    The NYT won't report on this though, will they?

    Jenny Durkan and I were 1Ls together, thirty-five years ago, at the University of Washington School of Law. She was very friendly and very well-liked, including by me. Another of our classmates has been the King County Prosecutor, for many years now, and is married to another of our classmates, an in-house lawyer for Microsoft (and the first woman that I dated, after moving to Seattle for law school). Another of our classmates was allegedly rubbed out by the Mob, but I have yet to find proof of that claim….

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    DK, she was the first woman you dated. Are you male or female?
  26. It’s too early to surrender. A parade of freaks momentarily triumphant has no meaning. They stand for nothing but personal self-aggrandizment with nothing to glue them together. One good gust of wind and the freaks will scatter.

  27. @Lurker
    https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1494/91/1494910533812.png

    • Replies: @Marat
    A true progressive only sees the man-spreading, then promptly doesn't see it.
    , @AndrewR
    Jesse Jackson has really gotten big huh
    , @BB753
    Fat boy should stop stroking his balls!
    , @ScarletNumber
    I haven't seen a Phil Simms jersey in ages.
    , @Client 9
    Human refuse, I'm talking about the woman. How could anyone tolerate sitting next to that! That sums up white peoples psychology, "as long as it doesn't hurt me I'll be fine".
    , @donut
    She got a seat though .
  28. Isn’t “gender dysphoria” considered a mental illness in the DSM? The Democrats just elected a mentally ill lawmaker to the Virginia statehouse…

    • Replies: @guest
    We have a mentally incapacitated governor in MN, and no one cares. Apparently, states can function just fine without them.
    , @Charles Erwin Wilson

    The Democrats just elected a mentally ill lawmaker to the Virginia statehouse
     
    Yes, but it is an improvement over all the other Democrat lawmakers in the Virginia Statehouse.
    , @AndrewR
    To be a Democrat in 2017 is to be mentally ill by definition, at least if one is white. This tranny legislator-elect may turn out to be the least mentally ill Democrat in the VA legislature.
  29. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: “black and brown” population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I’m a mom now, but I was a ‘lesbian until graduation.’ I’ll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you’re not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I’m also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of “fringes,” who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there’s also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    Thanks but no thanks.
    , @guest
    You can't trust people based on whom you got your rocks off with in college? Pfft.

    "I'll never repudiate that part of me."

    Try thinking of the sentimental part instead of sex part. Write your own version of Brideshead Revisited in your mind.

    , @Anonymous
    This is one of the more interesting comments I've read here in a while. Seriously. I've spent ten minutes or so pondering it and don't know what to say without composing a lengthy tome.
    , @Corn
    I don’t know if you’re an enemy but I sure as hell don’t want you as a friend.
    , @Almost Missouri
    As others have noted here before, LGBTBYOB is a synthetic coalition of unlike parts that don't naturally congregate except as a political convenience for the Democratic Party. The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo. Nobody much cares one way or the other about lesbians, particularly the Lesbians Until Graduation, which I suspect many men find a bit intriguing. Not speculating about your case, but from what I've seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today's compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    tl;dr: If lesbians didn't hang around sodomists for the convenience of the Dems, they wouldn't be feeling the incoming fire. You're basically human shields for homo-pedos.

    Otherwise I largely agree.

    , @Desiderius

    The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history.
     
    Good luck with that, sweetheart.

    The youngest one already has you by the short hairs - what makes you think you can beat all three?
    , @Chase
    Yeah, what good did Christianity ever do Europe for 2,000 years? And since we have de facto given it up, things have been going great!
    , @Mr. Anon

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I’m a mom now, but I was a ‘lesbian until graduation.’ I’ll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you’re not someone I feel I can trust.
     
    And if you buy into the degenerate and culturally destructive LGBT agenda that was pushed on you by Hollywood and the cultural elite, then you are not somebody I can trust.

    And there are no "trans-people". There are people with Y chromosomes and people without them. The former we call male, the latter, female. You are a science-denier.

    , @Mr. Anon

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off.
     
    The pro-LGBT stuff I see just about everywhere now is a big turn off.
    , @27 year old
    Deckard: She's a troll, isn't she?

    Tyrell: I'm impressed. How many questions does it usually take to spot them?

    Deckard: I don't get it, Tyrell.

    Tyrell: How many questions?

    Deckard: Twenty, thirty, cross-referenced.

    Tyrell: It took more than a hundred for Rachael, didn't it?

    Deckard: She doesn't know.

    Tyrell: She's beginning to suspect, I think.

    Deckard: Suspect? How can it not know what it is?
    , @bomag

    A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.
     
    I anxiously await any suggestions; all the oxygen seems to be sucked out of the room by the pro-immigrant, pro-LGBTQWERTY faction.
    , @Alec Leamas

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I’m a mom now, but I was a ‘lesbian until graduation.’ I’ll never repudiate that part of me.

    * * *

    The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history.
     
    Aren't you a data point that stands as evidence that homosexual identity theory is bunkum? You weren't a "lesbian" in college, you engaged in homosexual behavior on a circumstantial basis and within the context of a fairly historically unique environment. A residential college experience where thousands of 18-21 year olds congregate away from the communities in which they were nurtured and in which they can construct entirely novel identities is not a common or natural thing. Did you also gravitate towards Women's Studies and feminist theory before or concurrent with your "lesbian" identity (reference to the Abrahamic religions is a dead giveaway of some radfem indoctrination)? Once you progressed out of that unusual environment and context you reverted back to the norm. You clearly no longer "identify" as a lesbian. That's because you never were one - no one is or has been.

    You weren't stoned to death in the town square? Then your complaint about Abrahamic religions is a bit of weak tea. You also stand as evidence that people can and do change their behavior and reform it - which is sort of the point of Christianity.
    , @TheJester
    What did she say? She was all over the landscape from lesbianism to Confucius and something about the melding of Eastern and Western ways of life as the way to maintain Anglo-American values.

    A question: Did she learn how to do that at the university ... that is, fuse baskets of incompatible concepts within an effervescent dialectic?

    I'm old enough to recall the hippie movement of the 1960s. As I recall, you were always expected to chant after an emotional discharge: "Ommm"; "Ommm"; "Ommm."
    , @Jim Don Bob
    Tiny Duckette, is that you?
  30. @anony-mouse
    You sure the 'fringes' aren't fast becoming the 'core'? VA just got its first transgendered delegate, and White straight cis-male mayors are becoming fewer and fewer.

    And one who is still mayor is married to a Black lesbian.

    On a related note, your employing their terminology (cis-male), demonstrates absorption into general circulation.

    Who knew those lefties mastered both Organic Chemistry nomenclature and Latin, besides Greek?

    • Replies: @helena
    There's an irony. I often muse to myself that left-libs are so concerned about discrimination that we will end up with only one category, life. But as you point out, the rush to become fluid has resulted in a wholesale turn towards the evils of classification produced by that great oppressor, western civilisation.
  31. St. Paul, MN–which is in fact not the same city as Minneapolis, MN–just elected its first black mayor. You’re right, NYT, it’s a rising tide of color/sexual deviance.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    CRAP!!!
  32. @eah
    https://johndenugent.com/images/white-woman-subway-diversity-blacks-326x245.jpg

    A true progressive only sees the man-spreading, then promptly doesn’t see it.

    • Replies: @fish
    Tiny Duck be seen it......and seen it, and seen it, and seen it!



    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BzwullRIMAEh0a6.jpg



    Leneurd "I callz em liks I seez em" PyttttZ
  33. A transgender lawmaker in Virginia, a Sikh mayor in New Jersey and a refugee mayor in Montana: Were these Democratic victories a rebuke of President Trump or sign of change?

    The end result will be that more and more whites will start to identify as conservatives. Trump will be gone in 3 or 7 years. The crazies will continue to control more and more of the Democratic Party.

    Guess I’m crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I’m down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I’ll need to start looking abroad.

    WTF?

    How about any of the 30 states that voted for Trump in 2016, or the other 5 or so in which a swing of only about 5% would have changed given the state to Trump? Or maybe even the other 15 states?

    This defeatism is seriously annoying. Get a job in a state you want to live in. Move there. Marry and have lots of kids. Raise them right. Live your life. Live as you believe. Work to elect politicians you agree with. And tell anyone who disagrees with you they can leave you alone or go to hell.

    My wife and I are considering moving soon. We’ve considered several states. How those states voted plays exactly zero role in our decision.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Wilkey, "a transgender lawmaker...a Sikh mayor...refugee mayor" sound like Canada to me.
    , @Kevin C.

    The end result will be that more and more whites will start to identify as conservatives.
     
    And what does that accomplish?

    Get a job in a state you want to live in.
     
    Requires that there's someone there willing and able to hire you.

    Marry and have lots of kids.
     
    Implies you can find an acceptable spouse (rarer and rarer) who's not already taken (which reduces it even more), who also lives in that state (some have very skewed sex ratios), who is fertile, and that you can afford the various costs (land/housing, safety/security, taxes, etc.) incurred by having and raising children. And that the state won't take them away from you for "raising them right" and "living as you believe".

    Live as you believe
     
    Implies you won't get fired/mobbed/arrested/killed for doing so.

    Work to elect politicians you agree with.
     
    Requires that there be such a person running (never seen a candidate I've agreed with my entire life), that it's even possible for them to get elected, and that elected offices even manner anymore (hint: they don't. All real power and decisions are made by unelected judges and bureaucrats, and our elected "officials" don't have the power to change them.)

    And tell anyone who disagrees with you they can leave you alone or go to hell.
     
    And when that "anyone" includes your employer? Family Services? The cops? Or, what happens when you tell them that and they don't leave you alone?

    In short, it's all well and good to say people should do these things, but what about when they can't?
  34. @eah
    The Republicans Coalition of Cucks Strategy:

    https://twitter.com/thetolerantman/status/928430540063166466

    The average minority IS more naturally conservative than their white liberal allies. The Republicans’ error is assuming that translates into votes for them when in fact, tribalism trumps all things.

    • Agree: TomSchmidt
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    You'd think they would learn from the century-old example of the Jews, who are exemplary (small-c) conservatives, with low rates of divorce, illegitimacy, welfare dependency, etc., but who still vote overwhelmingly Democrat because they don't trust white Christians.
  35. @Anonymous
    Obviously, their strategy has been completely validated by the victory in Virginia of a cishet white male army doctor, married with children.

    Who blew a dog whistle regarding Sanctuary Cities?

  36. At the moment, Republicans seem to be having a lot more trouble with their coalition than Democrats. And they aren’t even losing support because of nativist legislation — not for the wall, not for DACA, not for NAFTA, not for tinkering with civil rights regulations.

    No, the Republicans prefer to lose fighting to cut social services and taxes! At least, the Democrats sacrificed their Congressional majorities to things which actually matter to their coalition.

    Maybe that’s the real reason the Democratic coalition is still holding.

    • Replies: @Rod1963
    McConnell is dictating what legislation is debated by the senate and what is not. The House has sent almost 200 pieces of legislation to the Senate where McConnell has sat on it to wreck Trump politically.

    People need to understand that McConnell hates Trump and is willing to lose the senate to destroy his presidency,
  37. @Anon
    It's more like Divierarchy than Diversity. It's about the hierarchy of diversity.

    The key invasive group is Mexicans and Hispanics. And most of them don't rise very high. They come to work as helots and neo-serfs for the more successful urban whites, Jews, Asians, and agro-oligarchs. They don't come for equality. They have misery at home, so they would rather come to work as servants of more successful people. It aint much by American standards but much better than what they got back home.

    So, that is the symbiotic relations between Proglob and Meso-Americans. They will never be equal, but Proglob get cheap and docile servant labor. And Mesos are useful as buffer against black crime and pathology. In turn, Meso-Americans gain a foothold in gringoland. It may not be much, but it's still preferable to living in nations ruled by Latino elites who are terrible and utterly without scruples.

    Elite-Helot Strategy.

    After all, even though the commercial showed Mexicans running from a white man in a truck, the fact is these browns run from brown nations to work for white men with businesses, offices, farms, and yes, even trucks.

    It’s more like Divierarchy than Diversity

    Multicultacracy.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Caste Diversity.
  38. So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. Her opponent, a 25 year entrenched bigot, refused to refer to her as a woman or to debate her. Anti-trans robocalls went out to her district. Virginia GOP sent fliers using male pronouns to refer to her. Happy she won and here’s hoping for more trans representation in govt.

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color

    Republicans showed that they cared more about statues of dead loser racist traitors then they did about immigrants

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Negativity, sadism and nihilism is a wonderful thing, and you revere it.
    , @Mr. Anon

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color
     
    If you want to know what the future that you desire looks like, just play the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey backwards.
    , @celt darnell
    OK, who gave this inhabitant of Idiocracy a time machine to travel back here to harass us?
    , @Twinkie
    When I hear people speak like this in earnest, I must confess that I do get some Francoist fantasies in my mind.
    , @jbwilson24
    "So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. "

    And yet you love mass immigration. Which groups like trans people, in general? Whites, Jews, maybe some East Asians.

    And which don't? Muslims, Hispanic Catholics, Blacks, Middle Easterners, South Asians.... ooops... those demographic changes that you are cheering are going to really make the life of trans people easier.
    , @unpc downunder
    Most of the rich guys and gals in coffee-coloured Brazil are whites. Trannies are five times more likely to be murdered in Brazil than the US. Economic inequality in Brazil is much higher than in majority white countries. Traffic jams in Brazil are a nightmare.

    There is no mixed-race, oche utopia for progs.
  39. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    Thanks but no thanks.

  40. An explicitly pro-white candidate is right around the corner. How do you think whites will respond?

    • Replies: @Maj. Kong
    That person might be a Dem candidate from a large city, arguing as explicitly pro-gentrification.
    , @Kevin C.

    An explicitly pro-white candidate is right around the corner.
     
    Really? I don't see it. And it won't matter how whites respond, such a person would never be nominated by either party, and Duverger's law means third-party or independent candidates simply cannot win. So they'd be a minor sideshow, like Merlin Miller, Tom Stevens, or Dan Vacek.
  41. @eah
    OT

    Another kind of coalition:

    Pension Bailout Bill To Be Introduced This Week

    According to Pensions and Investments magazine, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio plans to introduce legislation that would allow struggling multiemployer pension funds to borrow from the U.S. Treasury to remain solvent...The bill, which is co-sponsored by another Democrat, Rep. Tim Ryan, also of Ohio, could be introduced as soon as this week or shortly after. It would create a new office within the Treasury Department called the Pension Rehabilitation Administration. The funds would come from the sale of Treasury-issued bonds to financial institutions. The pension funds could borrow for 30 years at low interest rates. The one, and painfully amusing, restriction for borrowers is "they could not make risky investments", which of course will be promptly circumvented in hopes of generating outsized returns and repaying the Treasury's "bailout" loan, ultimately leading to massive losses on what is effectively a taxpayer-funded pension bailout.

    A conspiracy coalition of corrupt, greedy public officials and employee unions has for decades fleeced taxpayers with unaffordably generous and therefore chronically and hopelessly underfunded pay, benefit, and pension schemes -- they will now try to widen the net of those responsible for the costs to include future generations of federal taxpayers.

    “They could not make risky investments”-. This kind of stupidity of a risky investment. Kinda like letting the federal government borrow more and more money with no real spending cuts is considered a “clean” debt deal. They keep defining fiscal deviancy down.

  42. @Lurker
    https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1494/91/1494910533812.png

    Lurker, the “magic” student that will make all the other kids succeed.

    • Replies: @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Lurker, the “magic” student that will make all the other kids succeed.
     
    Yes, but only because of the magic dirt in his pockets.
  43. @Dr. X
    Isn't "gender dysphoria" considered a mental illness in the DSM? The Democrats just elected a mentally ill lawmaker to the Virginia statehouse...

    We have a mentally incapacitated governor in MN, and no one cares. Apparently, states can function just fine without them.

  44. @D. K.
    Jenny Durkan and I were 1Ls together, thirty-five years ago, at the University of Washington School of Law. She was very friendly and very well-liked, including by me. Another of our classmates has been the King County Prosecutor, for many years now, and is married to another of our classmates, an in-house lawyer for Microsoft (and the first woman that I dated, after moving to Seattle for law school). Another of our classmates was allegedly rubbed out by the Mob, but I have yet to find proof of that claim....

    DK, she was the first woman you dated. Are you male or female?

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Joe, don't be such a mean jerk :)
    , @D. K.
    No, she was only the first woman that I dated after my moving to Seattle, four weeks earlier. I was, and still am, a cisgendered, heterosexual, European-American male-- which is why I was dating her, in the autumn of 1982, and why the future King County Prosecutor married her, a few years later.
  45. @Wilkey
    A transgender lawmaker in Virginia, a Sikh mayor in New Jersey and a refugee mayor in Montana: Were these Democratic victories a rebuke of President Trump or sign of change?

    The end result will be that more and more whites will start to identify as conservatives. Trump will be gone in 3 or 7 years. The crazies will continue to control more and more of the Democratic Party.

    Guess I’m crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I’m down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I’ll need to start looking abroad.

    WTF?

    How about any of the 30 states that voted for Trump in 2016, or the other 5 or so in which a swing of only about 5% would have changed given the state to Trump? Or maybe even the other 15 states?

    This defeatism is seriously annoying. Get a job in a state you want to live in. Move there. Marry and have lots of kids. Raise them right. Live your life. Live as you believe. Work to elect politicians you agree with. And tell anyone who disagrees with you they can leave you alone or go to hell.

    My wife and I are considering moving soon. We've considered several states. How those states voted plays exactly zero role in our decision.

    Wilkey, “a transgender lawmaker…a Sikh mayor…refugee mayor” sound like Canada to me.

    • Replies: @Another Canadian
    But it's the good ole U.S. of A., isn't it? Transgendered Sikh refugees and all.

    Trump's Asian trip is impressive in that all these Asian countries look like real societies that take themselves seriously, not clown colleges that look at the world through a horribly distorted diversity-inclusion lens, living off the fumes of past generational success. Japan, China, South Korea. These look like serious countries with competent leadership and capable populations. We had better get our act together or be prepared to eat their dust.
  46. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    You can’t trust people based on whom you got your rocks off with in college? Pfft.

    “I’ll never repudiate that part of me.”

    Try thinking of the sentimental part instead of sex part. Write your own version of Brideshead Revisited in your mind.

  47. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    After that I’ll need to start looking abroad.

    Yes, because there are lots of places that will take you in ‘over there’ and you will be safe because they will respect the rule of law. Oh, but then they will take your money. And, oh, but then they will take your life. And then you will realize that they don’t care about the rule of law, or justice, or equal treatment. And, BTW, it is really hard to recover from being dead.

    Or maybe you could put your shoulder to the wheel here, and help the rest of us turn our ship-of-state around?

    If you are paying attention, then you ought to have the gallows in sight. If so, then, as a consequence, your mind ought to be focused.

    There is nowhere else to go. Cowboy up, or willingly consign yourself to the Gulag.

    Make no mistake, the Gulag is what the Left (Democrats, and Republican whores), have in mind.

    • Agree: BB753, Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Anonymous

    There is nowhere else to go. Cowboy up, or willingly consign yourself to the Gulag.

    Make no mistake, the Gulag is what the Left (Democrats, and Republican whores), have in mind.
     
    You're right on the money; problem is all those a-holes in the middle won't do anything to help. It's only when they are getting rounded up will it finally dawn on them that we were right about the threat the left is.

    But then it will be too late....
  48. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    This is one of the more interesting comments I’ve read here in a while. Seriously. I’ve spent ten minutes or so pondering it and don’t know what to say without composing a lengthy tome.

  49. @Buffalo Joe
    Lurker, the "magic" student that will make all the other kids succeed.

    Lurker, the “magic” student that will make all the other kids succeed.

    Yes, but only because of the magic dirt in his pockets.

  50. @Dr. X
    Isn't "gender dysphoria" considered a mental illness in the DSM? The Democrats just elected a mentally ill lawmaker to the Virginia statehouse...

    The Democrats just elected a mentally ill lawmaker to the Virginia statehouse

    Yes, but it is an improvement over all the other Democrat lawmakers in the Virginia Statehouse.

  51. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    I don’t know if you’re an enemy but I sure as hell don’t want you as a friend.

  52. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    As others have noted here before, LGBTBYOB is a synthetic coalition of unlike parts that don’t naturally congregate except as a political convenience for the Democratic Party. The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo. Nobody much cares one way or the other about lesbians, particularly the Lesbians Until Graduation, which I suspect many men find a bit intriguing. Not speculating about your case, but from what I’ve seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today’s compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    tl;dr: If lesbians didn’t hang around sodomists for the convenience of the Dems, they wouldn’t be feeling the incoming fire. You’re basically human shields for homo-pedos.

    Otherwise I largely agree.

    • Replies: @black sea

    from what I’ve seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today’s compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

     

    On the 36-flavored spectrum of sexual desire, there is a category known as "demi," short for demisexual, and bearing no relevance to Demi Moore.

    "A demisexual is a person who does not experience sexual attraction unless they form a strong emotional connection with someone."

    When one of my daughters was explaining this sub-category to me, I replied that this is perhaps what people used to mean by "normal."
    , @Maj. Kong
    The UK Conservative Party has a higher proportion of gay MPs than would be expected from the general population. It also gets a major share of the (small) Jewish vote.

    And an unrepentant Trotskyist almost threw them out of office. If another election is held within a year, he might get an outright majority of the vote, not just the seats.
    , @Desiderius
    Most lesbians until graduation in my experience are young women who can’t find a young man dominant enough to get them off. Why this problem is endemic in a university setting is left as an exercise for the reader.
    , @AndrewR
    "The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo."

    Cite both claims
    , @anonguy

    but in today’s compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.
     
    Despite all the surface evidence, the younger people these days are having sex less, at later ages, and with few partners. Interesting how that coontrasts with the 24x7 nonstop chatter about gender, gay marriage, hookup culture, etc, you'd think the era is obsessed with sex.

    But it isn't, it is an era obsessed with fretting about sex issues.
  53. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history.

    Good luck with that, sweetheart.

    The youngest one already has you by the short hairs – what makes you think you can beat all three?

  54. @Buffalo Joe
    Wilkey, "a transgender lawmaker...a Sikh mayor...refugee mayor" sound like Canada to me.

    But it’s the good ole U.S. of A., isn’t it? Transgendered Sikh refugees and all.

    Trump’s Asian trip is impressive in that all these Asian countries look like real societies that take themselves seriously, not clown colleges that look at the world through a horribly distorted diversity-inclusion lens, living off the fumes of past generational success. Japan, China, South Korea. These look like serious countries with competent leadership and capable populations. We had better get our act together or be prepared to eat their dust.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Another, an excellent reply, thank you.
  55. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as “states rights” and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants – because: Mormons. Also, Arizona is good if you are rich…or have enough savings to hang with the well-off in Sedona, or something. Everywhere else, you better have good guns.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as “states rights” and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants – because: Mormons.

    Hahahaha. Ummmm...maybe. There is the corrupt Mormon leadership and then there is the laity. The corrupt Mormon leadership is increasingly pushing open borders, refugees, diversity, "the Utah Compact" (an open borders agenda document signed by several church leaders) all in the name of helping to boost its membership (whites don't join the LDS Church in any substantial numbers anymore) and cheap labor.

    The laity has been known to jilt the leadership's secular preferences from time to time. There was the defeat of Bob Bennett in 2010 and of Chris Cannon in 2008. Several other lesser known pro-open border state legislators have been defeated, as well.

    How bad has the Mormon leadership become? The Church-owned paper, the Deseret News, has been pushing an open borders agenda for probably about two decades. During the height of the immigration debates about ten years ago the paper was publishing roughly one pro-amnesty editorial a week for months on end, saying some rather nasty things about those who disagreed (many of whom are good, decent Mormons). When Bob Bennett was defeated in the GOP primary in 2010 and his son Jim decided to campaign for the Democratic candidate the Deseret News gave Bennett's opponents a giant middle finger by giving both father AND son columns in the paper within a year.

    But mostly the laity does what it's told. There are a few good aspects to Mormonism. They continue to have respectable if shrinking birthrates, they still get married sooner, etc. But anything the Mormon leadership actively has its hands in is pretty much rot. If American Mormonism ever loses its predominantly Anglo/Scandinavian flavor it is doomed.

    , @anonguy

    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as “states rights” and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants – because: Mormons.
     
    Years ago, I would have agreed with this, but Mormonism somewhere got hopelessly cucked along the way.
  56. @guest
    St. Paul, MN--which is in fact not the same city as Minneapolis, MN--just elected its first black mayor. You're right, NYT, it's a rising tide of color/sexual deviance.

    CRAP!!!

  57. @Buffalo Joe
    DK, she was the first woman you dated. Are you male or female?

    Joe, don’t be such a mean jerk 🙂

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Lagertha, ...."mean jerk,"a knife to the heart.
  58. @Tiny Duck
    So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. Her opponent, a 25 year entrenched bigot, refused to refer to her as a woman or to debate her. Anti-trans robocalls went out to her district. Virginia GOP sent fliers using male pronouns to refer to her. Happy she won and here's hoping for more trans representation in govt.

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color

    Republicans showed that they cared more about statues of dead loser racist traitors then they did about immigrants

    Negativity, sadism and nihilism is a wonderful thing, and you revere it.

  59. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    Yeah, what good did Christianity ever do Europe for 2,000 years? And since we have de facto given it up, things have been going great!

  60. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    Iceland is nice..crappy weather..but. we could have a whole lotta people hang out with us!

    • Replies: @Trelane
    Iceland may be chilly and volcanic but it is ranked as the 9th most developed country in the world. It is the seventh most productive country in the world. Iceland is energy independant. It has its own independant central bank and soverien currency. Iceland has the second highest rated quality of life in the world. Iceland has universal health care which is considered of very good quality. Icelanders have among the highest longevity of any people. Iceland has a very low Gini index--that is, a low amount of income inequality. There is almost no crime in Iceland. The total fertility rate (TFR) for women in Iceland is 2.1: the only European country that is reproductive. Phone books in iceland are alphebetized by first name. Some 98% of icelanders are under the impression that they can rely on someone they know to help them, a far higher percentage than in other industrialized countries.

    If I was an extraterrestrial alien who wanted to conquer and destroy Iceland the first thing I'd do is appoint bjork as leader. Then I'd bring in immigrants.
  61. @Forbes
    Does the NYT style guide require every story to have a Trump hook?

    Is there any story idea more banal than a rhetorical question about Trump? News reporting is passe.

    No, NYT has become so macabre/disgusting…everyday, every fracking day, it is : Trump bad. But, you know what? – they are losers…the worker bees there, the semi-important “talent” aren’t rich enough to send their kids (if they have them) to college -they are all F&cked with Trump or without Trump – that’s the truth. NYC, LA, Boston, Denver, Austin, SF sucks for people who don’t have millions in their bank.

  62. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    Given the present trends in the U.S., I’d start looking abroad sooner rather than later. Changing countries is much harder than changing states. What is your foreign language capability?

  63. @Buffalo Joe
    DK, she was the first woman you dated. Are you male or female?

    No, she was only the first woman that I dated after my moving to Seattle, four weeks earlier. I was, and still am, a cisgendered, heterosexual, European-American male– which is why I was dating her, in the autumn of 1982, and why the future King County Prosecutor married her, a few years later.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Her husband married her because you're a cisgendered, heterosexual, European-American male? I've heard some weird reasons for getting married but this takes the cake.
  64. @Marat
    On a related note, your employing their terminology (cis-male), demonstrates absorption into general circulation.

    Who knew those lefties mastered both Organic Chemistry nomenclature and Latin, besides Greek?

    There’s an irony. I often muse to myself that left-libs are so concerned about discrimination that we will end up with only one category, life. But as you point out, the rush to become fluid has resulted in a wholesale turn towards the evils of classification produced by that great oppressor, western civilisation.

  65. @Flip
    I am thinking Idaho, although eastern Washington could work due to the lack of a state income tax.

    Democrats just won control of the State Senate in Washington. They now control both houses and the governorship. And demographic trends will make Washington ever more blue. I wouldn’t count on that no income tax status. Washington is likely to become as f’d up as California.

    • Agree: Kevin C.
  66. @Kaz
    Republicans have too many bad policies to win just on immigration.

    The tax reform has to abandon the pretense that it is still 1980.

    Tax-exempt foundations should disperse 10% per annum, rather than the existing 5%. That should destroy most of them through attrition, depriving a major source of funding for the left.

    Capital gains should be subject to ordinary income tax rates, at least for the billionaire class. They should also be taxed to shore up the entitlement programs. This will also help reduce the impact of asset-price bubbles.

    A tax on remittances should be enacted, it should first pay for the border wall. When the wall is complete it should be used for infrastructure spending, and possibly a child tax credit that only goes to the middle class.

    Mandatory E-Verify should be included as part of the tax reform. It will certainly increase revenue.

    If the GOP stops being cuckolded by billionaires…

    • Replies: @dwb
    Major -

    every one of those ideas is too sensible ever to be tried.

    Sorry.
  67. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I’m a mom now, but I was a ‘lesbian until graduation.’ I’ll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you’re not someone I feel I can trust.

    And if you buy into the degenerate and culturally destructive LGBT agenda that was pushed on you by Hollywood and the cultural elite, then you are not somebody I can trust.

    And there are no “trans-people”. There are people with Y chromosomes and people without them. The former we call male, the latter, female. You are a science-denier.

  68. @Anonymous
    An explicitly pro-white candidate is right around the corner. How do you think whites will respond?

    That person might be a Dem candidate from a large city, arguing as explicitly pro-gentrification.

  69. @Almost Missouri
    As others have noted here before, LGBTBYOB is a synthetic coalition of unlike parts that don't naturally congregate except as a political convenience for the Democratic Party. The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo. Nobody much cares one way or the other about lesbians, particularly the Lesbians Until Graduation, which I suspect many men find a bit intriguing. Not speculating about your case, but from what I've seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today's compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    tl;dr: If lesbians didn't hang around sodomists for the convenience of the Dems, they wouldn't be feeling the incoming fire. You're basically human shields for homo-pedos.

    Otherwise I largely agree.

    from what I’ve seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today’s compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    On the 36-flavored spectrum of sexual desire, there is a category known as “demi,” short for demisexual, and bearing no relevance to Demi Moore.

    “A demisexual is a person who does not experience sexual attraction unless they form a strong emotional connection with someone.”

    When one of my daughters was explaining this sub-category to me, I replied that this is perhaps what people used to mean by “normal.”

    • Replies: @guest
    They go too far with "demi-sexuality," because if there's one thing holding the litany together it's that they're all perversions. Demisexuality is not perverse, even by today's standards. I suppose it's a bit strange if you can't get a boner without being strongly pair-bonded, if that's part of the idea. Otherwise, it's perfectly normal.

    "Demi-" is in the alphabet soup presumably because there aren't many actual Asexuals--another one of their categories--and they feel the need to locate a group of people halfway between asexuals and the New Normal, which is to have sex willy-nilly. That's just my guess.

    I imagine they're going to start in on the halfsies across the alphabet soup spectrum. You double your letters right there. They already have that with Bisexuality, which is halfway between gay and straight. What's halfway between a tranny and a regular person? Crossdressing? Is that on the list? How about mer-people, who only have the upper half of their birth sex.

    On gender, they're already nutty. They have trannies of both sexes, people who question their gebder, and of that weren't enough they list people who are two sexes at once as "Two Spirit."

    Plus, there can be "queer" and "questioning" categories for every letter. Then, maybe half-questionings. "I'm demi-queer gay, three-quarters asexual, half-tranny double-bi."

    There's virtually no limit to fine distinctions of perversity.

    , @AndrewR
    I'm quite sure that it was never normal for most men to require a strong emotional connection with someone in order to feel sexual attraction.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Okaaay, but what is "demi-" about that?
  70. @Almost Missouri
    As others have noted here before, LGBTBYOB is a synthetic coalition of unlike parts that don't naturally congregate except as a political convenience for the Democratic Party. The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo. Nobody much cares one way or the other about lesbians, particularly the Lesbians Until Graduation, which I suspect many men find a bit intriguing. Not speculating about your case, but from what I've seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today's compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    tl;dr: If lesbians didn't hang around sodomists for the convenience of the Dems, they wouldn't be feeling the incoming fire. You're basically human shields for homo-pedos.

    Otherwise I largely agree.

    The UK Conservative Party has a higher proportion of gay MPs than would be expected from the general population. It also gets a major share of the (small) Jewish vote.

    And an unrepentant Trotskyist almost threw them out of office. If another election is held within a year, he might get an outright majority of the vote, not just the seats.

  71. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off.

    The pro-LGBT stuff I see just about everywhere now is a big turn off.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Says the guy who gets nervous at the mention of Kevin Spacey....
  72. @Tiny Duck
    So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. Her opponent, a 25 year entrenched bigot, refused to refer to her as a woman or to debate her. Anti-trans robocalls went out to her district. Virginia GOP sent fliers using male pronouns to refer to her. Happy she won and here's hoping for more trans representation in govt.

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color

    Republicans showed that they cared more about statues of dead loser racist traitors then they did about immigrants

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color

    If you want to know what the future that you desire looks like, just play the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey backwards.

    • Replies: @dwb
    LoL.

    Best post of the thread.
  73. Meanwhile, in Minneapolis:

    1) Two “trans” people (both African-American) were elected to the city council.

    2) The son of Muslim African-American Congressman Keith Ellison defeated the first Hmong-American to hold a seat on the city council.

    3) Mayor Betsy Hodges was defeated by a one-term 36 year-old city councilman.

    http://www.twincities.com/2017/11/08/andrea-jenkins-minneapolis-city-council-nations-first-openly-transgender-black-woman-elected-to-public-office/

    http://www.twincities.com/2017/11/08/jacob-frey-wins-minneapolis-mayors-race/

  74. This is not an either-or situation. I think that one can coherently denounce both the ISIS approach of tossing gays from rooftops and the SJW approach of castrating boys who show an interest in jewelry. I find them both demonic.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    This is historically not new, this seemingly complete breakdown of normal.

    It is how empires end.

    History never repeats itself exactly, but it has motifs. And this one screams "Weimar".

    The left and the right imploded politically, and weirdness and perversion came up everywhere one looked.

    When the left and right implode, the only place change can come from is the center. As a few history buffs might remember, it did.

    This time, it's a fair bet it won't be known by any allusions to Roman days now considered cute epithets for the incorrect or any German nicknames for some arcane acronym. It will be called Americanism. But the parallels will be unmistakable: one leader, seemingly sane in a world of insanity. One people. One polity.

    It won't end well for any of us, but it will end up much more unwell for some than others.
  75. @Tiny Duck
    So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. Her opponent, a 25 year entrenched bigot, refused to refer to her as a woman or to debate her. Anti-trans robocalls went out to her district. Virginia GOP sent fliers using male pronouns to refer to her. Happy she won and here's hoping for more trans representation in govt.

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color

    Republicans showed that they cared more about statues of dead loser racist traitors then they did about immigrants

    OK, who gave this inhabitant of Idiocracy a time machine to travel back here to harass us?

    • LOL: Trelane
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I think it was the UN:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DueSvcjn810
  76. @Mr. Anon

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off.
     
    The pro-LGBT stuff I see just about everywhere now is a big turn off.

    Says the guy who gets nervous at the mention of Kevin Spacey….

  77. @Tiny Duck
    So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. Her opponent, a 25 year entrenched bigot, refused to refer to her as a woman or to debate her. Anti-trans robocalls went out to her district. Virginia GOP sent fliers using male pronouns to refer to her. Happy she won and here's hoping for more trans representation in govt.

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color

    Republicans showed that they cared more about statues of dead loser racist traitors then they did about immigrants

    When I hear people speak like this in earnest, I must confess that I do get some Francoist fantasies in my mind.

    • Replies: @Trelane
    Me too Twinkie
    , @Anon
    Laughing here. Franco was actually a pretty good leader, who knew who he was up against --in a way we don't or have forgotten--, able militarily, extremely nimble politically (specially when considering the state of the economy he inherited and the int'l blockade) and an extraordinary communicator. I'd say he won the battle for language and right reason with two simple phrases: "anti-Spain" and "judeo-Masonic cabal". He had intellectual depth to back them up, of course. And he did have a path to national reconciliation.

    Nowadays the leftist ideological bulldozer makes fun of his title "Caudillo of Spain by the grace of God", but I believe it was precise, and even humble. Not that he didn't have flaws, of course.
  78. @black sea

    from what I’ve seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today’s compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

     

    On the 36-flavored spectrum of sexual desire, there is a category known as "demi," short for demisexual, and bearing no relevance to Demi Moore.

    "A demisexual is a person who does not experience sexual attraction unless they form a strong emotional connection with someone."

    When one of my daughters was explaining this sub-category to me, I replied that this is perhaps what people used to mean by "normal."

    They go too far with “demi-sexuality,” because if there’s one thing holding the litany together it’s that they’re all perversions. Demisexuality is not perverse, even by today’s standards. I suppose it’s a bit strange if you can’t get a boner without being strongly pair-bonded, if that’s part of the idea. Otherwise, it’s perfectly normal.

    “Demi-” is in the alphabet soup presumably because there aren’t many actual Asexuals–another one of their categories–and they feel the need to locate a group of people halfway between asexuals and the New Normal, which is to have sex willy-nilly. That’s just my guess.

    I imagine they’re going to start in on the halfsies across the alphabet soup spectrum. You double your letters right there. They already have that with Bisexuality, which is halfway between gay and straight. What’s halfway between a tranny and a regular person? Crossdressing? Is that on the list? How about mer-people, who only have the upper half of their birth sex.

    On gender, they’re already nutty. They have trannies of both sexes, people who question their gebder, and of that weren’t enough they list people who are two sexes at once as “Two Spirit.”

    Plus, there can be “queer” and “questioning” categories for every letter. Then, maybe half-questionings. “I’m demi-queer gay, three-quarters asexual, half-tranny double-bi.”

    There’s virtually no limit to fine distinctions of perversity.

  79. @Tiny Duck
    So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. Her opponent, a 25 year entrenched bigot, refused to refer to her as a woman or to debate her. Anti-trans robocalls went out to her district. Virginia GOP sent fliers using male pronouns to refer to her. Happy she won and here's hoping for more trans representation in govt.

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color

    Republicans showed that they cared more about statues of dead loser racist traitors then they did about immigrants

    “So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. ”

    And yet you love mass immigration. Which groups like trans people, in general? Whites, Jews, maybe some East Asians.

    And which don’t? Muslims, Hispanic Catholics, Blacks, Middle Easterners, South Asians…. ooops… those demographic changes that you are cheering are going to really make the life of trans people easier.

  80. Lets be realistic. We are not voting our way out of this. Demography is destiny, VA was reliably Republican no matter what the candidate and is now solidly Democrat. That is the destiny of the US. Trump has made no moves and desires to make no real moves to do anything about immigration, legal or illegal. No border wall, no deportation forces, no moves on sanctuary cities, no arrests, no showdowns, no moves on trade or punishing Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc. for their H1-B Visa use, nothing. It is only a matter for the 2018 mid-terms when Dems impeach Trump, and a Senate with panicked and GOPe Republicans convict him.

    The only question is who will win the Game of Thrones: Nancy Pelosi as Speaker again? Hillary (who seems to think so) or say Kamala Harris?

    Nope, the “Coalition of the Fringes” (really the CENTER of American and Western Life now) is very solid: White people who desperately need Self Righteous disdain on other Whites, Nice White Ladies, Gays/Lesbians/BLT-QWERTY and Non-Whites. All united in their HATE HATE HATE of White Beta Males who they just HATE HATE HATE.

    These are the people running major corporations, the media, the military, the government, the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Christian Churches, Hollywood, universities, the school systems, etc. EVERY major and minor power center in the West.

    Nope, what is imperative is White male survival and thus White survival. All these groups HATE HATE HATE White men. Particularly those self-righteous SWPL White men who have no religion to fill their void. Moreover the need for “jobs for the trannies” and various non-Whites, etc. means as Michelle Obama observed, some White people (White men) will have to be tossed out so Wise Latinas etc. can take their place. Self-righteous fury will only increase as Good Whites engage in “Progressive Stacking” and toss Whites to the back of the bus, the classroom, job promotion etc.

    But the real issue is money and competence. Neither is in large amounts among non-Whites, the BLT-QWERTY community, Nice White Ladies, etc. This implies a giant slavery system for White men that insures the money flows in and the sewage treatment plants, power plants, and air traffic control systems run. Not to mention the military systems, procurement, supplies, and so on needed to keep White men in place as latter day helots run by the Soy-Boy Neo Spartans of flapping wrists and uptalking manners.

    THAT is worth preventing. A dominant non-White society literally cannot run without White men in figurative if not literal chains. There will be no money and competence otherwise and I guarantee you that neither Kamala Harris nor Hillary Clinton are going to allow themselves to live like Saddam in some spider-hole. Certainly their massive patronage network will not survive on Iraqi levels of prosperity and competence.

    Do the math — a doubling of the non-White population means a halving of the opportunities and money available to the White male population. As well as personal freedom to do what they please, already Black Lives Matter is all about establishing Black male dominance over White men.

    • Replies: @bartok

    Black Lives Matter is all about establishing Black male dominance over White men
     
    No, BLM is about replacing the old Black leadership with a young homosexual Black-ish leadership. Donna Brazile gets this, which is why she is slamming Clinton-world, which like Bush-world, doesn't realize it is 'over'.
    , @Kevin C.

    Lets be realistic. We are not voting our way out of this.
     
    Indubitably.

    THAT is worth preventing.
     
    Yes, but is there a way to prevent it?
  81. @Lagertha
    Iceland is nice..crappy weather..but. we could have a whole lotta people hang out with us!

    Iceland may be chilly and volcanic but it is ranked as the 9th most developed country in the world. It is the seventh most productive country in the world. Iceland is energy independant. It has its own independant central bank and soverien currency. Iceland has the second highest rated quality of life in the world. Iceland has universal health care which is considered of very good quality. Icelanders have among the highest longevity of any people. Iceland has a very low Gini index–that is, a low amount of income inequality. There is almost no crime in Iceland. The total fertility rate (TFR) for women in Iceland is 2.1: the only European country that is reproductive. Phone books in iceland are alphebetized by first name. Some 98% of icelanders are under the impression that they can rely on someone they know to help them, a far higher percentage than in other industrialized countries.

    If I was an extraterrestrial alien who wanted to conquer and destroy Iceland the first thing I’d do is appoint bjork as leader. Then I’d bring in immigrants.

    • Replies: @Paco Wové

    Then I’d bring in immigrants.
     
    They're already arriving.
    , @Lagertha
    I love Iceland - but, you don't need to feel sorry for the rest of the world - DON'T bring in migrants/refugees that ultimately, can't handle your weather...or agree with your centuries-old culture. Don't be ridiculous.
    , @Kevin C.

    Phone books in iceland are alphebetized by first name.
     
    That's because Icelanders don't have surnames, just patronymics. For example, Björk is Björk Guðmundsdóttir, because her father is Guðmundur Gunnarsson (meaning his father's name was Gunnar).
  82. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    This is not an either-or situation. I think that one can coherently denounce both the ISIS approach of tossing gays from rooftops and the SJW approach of castrating boys who show an interest in jewelry. I find them both demonic.

    This is historically not new, this seemingly complete breakdown of normal.

    It is how empires end.

    History never repeats itself exactly, but it has motifs. And this one screams “Weimar”.

    The left and the right imploded politically, and weirdness and perversion came up everywhere one looked.

    When the left and right implode, the only place change can come from is the center. As a few history buffs might remember, it did.

    This time, it’s a fair bet it won’t be known by any allusions to Roman days now considered cute epithets for the incorrect or any German nicknames for some arcane acronym. It will be called Americanism. But the parallels will be unmistakable: one leader, seemingly sane in a world of insanity. One people. One polity.

    It won’t end well for any of us, but it will end up much more unwell for some than others.

  83. @Twinkie
    When I hear people speak like this in earnest, I must confess that I do get some Francoist fantasies in my mind.

    Me too Twinkie

  84. @Vinay
    At the moment, Republicans seem to be having a lot more trouble with their coalition than Democrats. And they aren’t even losing support because of nativist legislation — not for the wall, not for DACA, not for NAFTA, not for tinkering with civil rights regulations.

    No, the Republicans prefer to lose fighting to cut social services and taxes! At least, the Democrats sacrificed their Congressional majorities to things which actually matter to their coalition.

    Maybe that’s the real reason the Democratic coalition is still holding.

    McConnell is dictating what legislation is debated by the senate and what is not. The House has sent almost 200 pieces of legislation to the Senate where McConnell has sat on it to wreck Trump politically.

    People need to understand that McConnell hates Trump and is willing to lose the senate to destroy his presidency,

  85. When will enough whites quit accepting their diminution to actually do something about it? I never knew what spineless, sniveling cowards many whites are.

    • Replies: @Kevin C.

    When will enough whites quit accepting their diminution to actually do something about it?
     
    Perhaps when there's actually something to do about it? Because from where this white guy is sitting, it looks like there's simply nothing to be done about our diminution, as you put it. It's unstoppable and inevitable, we're totally doomed. There is no hope, there is no hope, there is no hope. All is lost.
  86. @Almost Missouri
    As others have noted here before, LGBTBYOB is a synthetic coalition of unlike parts that don't naturally congregate except as a political convenience for the Democratic Party. The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo. Nobody much cares one way or the other about lesbians, particularly the Lesbians Until Graduation, which I suspect many men find a bit intriguing. Not speculating about your case, but from what I've seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today's compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    tl;dr: If lesbians didn't hang around sodomists for the convenience of the Dems, they wouldn't be feeling the incoming fire. You're basically human shields for homo-pedos.

    Otherwise I largely agree.

    Most lesbians until graduation in my experience are young women who can’t find a young man dominant enough to get them off. Why this problem is endemic in a university setting is left as an exercise for the reader.

    • Replies: @TheJester
    There is, I believe, another dimension to LUGs (Lesbians Until Graduation), mindful that coeds find a revoltingly small number of marriageable males in today's universities.

    When our daughter was in high school a few years ago, we got an earful about her and her friends' social lives. A recurrent theme was that so-and-so had just declared that she was a lesbian. This typically lasted about two weeks ... until a boyfriend miraculously (re)appeared.

    Could it be? Young women today are embarrassed when they cannot attract boyfriends ... someone to walk arm in arm about the school to broadcast their sexual desirability. How humiliating when you do not have one! However, in our advanced stage of social degeneration, a socially acceptable excuse is readily available. "I don't have a boyfriend because I'm a lesbian." End of discussion.

    Ok, now we know. Being heterosexual (with a boyfriend) and being a lesbian (without a boyfriend) are both equally acceptable. Right? Maybe not.

    So, when we would hear another lamentable tale about so-and-so being is a lesbian, we would reassure our daughter, "No worry, give her two weeks."

    The coeds in today's universities just need to suffer the humiliation of not being able to attract a boyfriend over a much longer period of time.
    , @Alec Leamas

    Most lesbians until graduation in my experience are young women who can’t find a young man dominant enough to get them off. Why this problem is endemic in a university setting is left as an exercise for the reader.
     
    It's anecdata but it was a fairly common phenomenon at Bryn Mawr in the 90s.

    The progression commonly starts with an introduction to women's studies, then some sort of feminist/radical activism where lesbian relationships just seem like an expression of the radfem politics and where they meet the more forward lesbians who have designs to seduce the fresh meat. Obviously Bryn Mawr self-selects for a certain kind of student who finds a women-only campus desirable, and you'd presume that it would attract more pre-college lesbians than average.

    I've also heard stories of lesbian "studs" on women's college sports teams (in this case, soccer) serially seducing formerly straight members of the team. In that case the women are always together, and they travel together, etc.

    I think some of this as you say is probably a function of the current disposition on the college campus where absolute sexual liberation for Coeds is seen as a universal self-evident good while simultaneously there is a rape hysteria which is a pretext for quasi-legal criminalisation of straight male behavior generally and sexual behavior in particular. This seems like a particularly and uniquely well-suited environment for aggressive lesbian seducers.
  87. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Except that it's not OK to be white.

    Give me a call when a business leader or politician explicitly states that it's OK to be white. I do my own little part by teaching my kids that they should be proud of their European heritage and quietly proclaiming the same in public.

    This isn't my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.

    We're all Jews now. Act like it.

    We’re all Jews now. Act like it.

    This is the truth.

    The Jews are great at staying cohesive and protecting their group interests (see response to Larry David SNL monologue). Study them. Emulate them.

  88. @eah
    OT

    Another kind of coalition:

    Pension Bailout Bill To Be Introduced This Week

    According to Pensions and Investments magazine, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio plans to introduce legislation that would allow struggling multiemployer pension funds to borrow from the U.S. Treasury to remain solvent...The bill, which is co-sponsored by another Democrat, Rep. Tim Ryan, also of Ohio, could be introduced as soon as this week or shortly after. It would create a new office within the Treasury Department called the Pension Rehabilitation Administration. The funds would come from the sale of Treasury-issued bonds to financial institutions. The pension funds could borrow for 30 years at low interest rates. The one, and painfully amusing, restriction for borrowers is "they could not make risky investments", which of course will be promptly circumvented in hopes of generating outsized returns and repaying the Treasury's "bailout" loan, ultimately leading to massive losses on what is effectively a taxpayer-funded pension bailout.

    A conspiracy coalition of corrupt, greedy public officials and employee unions has for decades fleeced taxpayers with unaffordably generous and therefore chronically and hopelessly underfunded pay, benefit, and pension schemes -- they will now try to widen the net of those responsible for the costs to include future generations of federal taxpayers.

    I’d rather have the money going to retirees than banksters.

    • Replies: @eah
    Few people would argue with your banality -- but it's not apparent you see or understand the nature and scale of the problem -- the cost and the corruption involved.

    Here is one example:

    The Chicago Pension Scandal: $100,000+ Teacher Pensions Costing Taxpayers $1 Billion

    This week, our organization at OpenTheBooks.com debuted our interactive info mapping platform giving context to the 7,499 retired Illinois educators who pulled-down a pension of $100,000 or more. These retirees cost Illinois taxpayers $900 million (2015). Individually, these pension millionaires contributed so little to the system that they ‘broke-even’ on their ‘cost-basis’ within the first 20-months of retirement. It takes the equivalent of all income taxes paid by 330,177 individual Illinois taxpayers to fund the nearly $1 billion for the 7,499 ‘highly compensated’ six-figure retirees.

    Use of the coercive tax system to 'fix' this is immoral and disgusting.

    Feel free to send your own personal checks to these retirees.
  89. @Seamus Padraig
    I'd rather have the money going to retirees than banksters.

    Few people would argue with your banality — but it’s not apparent you see or understand the nature and scale of the problem — the cost and the corruption involved.

    Here is one example:

    The Chicago Pension Scandal: $100,000+ Teacher Pensions Costing Taxpayers $1 Billion

    This week, our organization at OpenTheBooks.com debuted our interactive info mapping platform giving context to the 7,499 retired Illinois educators who pulled-down a pension of $100,000 or more. These retirees cost Illinois taxpayers $900 million (2015). Individually, these pension millionaires contributed so little to the system that they ‘broke-even’ on their ‘cost-basis’ within the first 20-months of retirement. It takes the equivalent of all income taxes paid by 330,177 individual Illinois taxpayers to fund the nearly $1 billion for the 7,499 ‘highly compensated’ six-figure retirees.

    Use of the coercive tax system to ‘fix’ this is immoral and disgusting.

    Feel free to send your own personal checks to these retirees.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Eh, your hostility towards Seamus seems a bit laughable. Many high-earning people very consciously choose to live in IL despite its corruption having been world-renowned for generations. Perhaps one day the golden-egg-laying goose will kick the bucket, but for the foreseeable future she is very healthy. I assume you live in IL and are not obscenely wealthy, so I do sympathize with you, but I think excessive pensions of retired teachers is pretty low on the list of problems that IL faces.
  90. @D. K.
    No, she was only the first woman that I dated after my moving to Seattle, four weeks earlier. I was, and still am, a cisgendered, heterosexual, European-American male-- which is why I was dating her, in the autumn of 1982, and why the future King County Prosecutor married her, a few years later.

    Her husband married her because you’re a cisgendered, heterosexual, European-American male? I’ve heard some weird reasons for getting married but this takes the cake.

    • Replies: @D. K.
    If she previously had been sleeping with the likes of you, rather than with the likes of me, I am quite confident that he would not have touched her with the proverbial ten-foot pole, let alone married her. They both are hereditary Republicans, after all, and do not consider your ilk to be the vanguard of the coming utopia. Besides, she and I dated less than a year and a half after the AIDS epidemic first broke out in America. Sleeping with men who also were sleeping with men was not viewed by heterosexual women-- let alone by recent sorority girls, such as she-- as a prudent investment in the dating market.
  91. @eah
    https://johndenugent.com/images/white-woman-subway-diversity-blacks-326x245.jpg

    Jesse Jackson has really gotten big huh

  92. @Dr. X
    Isn't "gender dysphoria" considered a mental illness in the DSM? The Democrats just elected a mentally ill lawmaker to the Virginia statehouse...

    To be a Democrat in 2017 is to be mentally ill by definition, at least if one is white. This tranny legislator-elect may turn out to be the least mentally ill Democrat in the VA legislature.

  93. My take: The reason the Republicans lost many mid-term elections is the scale of infighting between Trumpites in the New Republican Party and the leaders of the Chamber of Commerce Republican Club. The latter is not really a political party; it lacks a voting base. However, their club has a legacy of elected officials that include the Speak of the House, Paul Ryan, and the Majority Leader of the Senate, Mitch McConnel.

    Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnel have done everything they can to sabotage President Trump’s political agenda, including controlling immigration, revamping Obamacare, and tax reform. The reason is that Ryan and McConnel come from the tradition of Republicrats and Democrans who protect the same vested interests on Wall Street and within corporations, especially the military-industrial complex. Based on social issues, there might appear to be a difference between let’s say, Hillary Clinton and Mitch McConnel … but on substantive issues there is none.

    The two wings of the Uniparty try to create the illusion of two political parties by adhering to a different set of peripheral social issues. For example, the Republicrats might genuflect to anti-abortion conservatives to win their vote. However, post-election, they do nothing to further that social cause by, let’s say, cutting government subsidies to Planned Parenthood.

    The Republicrats and Democrans work for the same people on Wall Street. The appearance of a political process in Washington DC is an illusion … political theater for the masses. At the end of the day, both Republicrats and Democrans advocate open borders, mass immigration, globalization, anti-natalist feminism, the legitimization of sexual deviancy, racial and cultural diversity, tax dodges for the rich, perpetual war, and other interests dear to the hearts of the rentier class.

    It’s been Donald Trump against the plutocrats in the Washington DC Uniparty, otherwise known as the Swamp. The Uniparty has been doing everything it can to isolate Trump.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    Donald Trump is a plutocrat, make no mistake about it. The tax plan is plutocracy on steroids--a historic slashing of the corporate tax rate, bringing the top individual rate down to 35 percent, and introducing a loophole allowing people like **hedge-fund managers and lawyers** to reorganize their businesses as pass-through entities and pay the corporate rate on their income, which Trump wants to be 15 percent. Furthermore, there is no provision that mandates the tax savings businesses would accrue must go directly back into company growth, rather than as bonus pay and stock dividends.

    Not exactly populist ideas.

    **Do you want these groups of people who are typically Jews to earn even more money and further embed themselves as elitists hellbent on spreading globalist propaganda and the "benefits" of Cultural Marxism?
  94. @Almost Missouri
    As others have noted here before, LGBTBYOB is a synthetic coalition of unlike parts that don't naturally congregate except as a political convenience for the Democratic Party. The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo. Nobody much cares one way or the other about lesbians, particularly the Lesbians Until Graduation, which I suspect many men find a bit intriguing. Not speculating about your case, but from what I've seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today's compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    tl;dr: If lesbians didn't hang around sodomists for the convenience of the Dems, they wouldn't be feeling the incoming fire. You're basically human shields for homo-pedos.

    Otherwise I largely agree.

    “The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo.”

    Cite both claims

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas

    “The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo.”

    Cite both claims

     

    Good point. I think the trannies may be eclipsing the vanilla sodomites.
  95. @Barnard
    Liberals are already a majority in Jackson Hole and are extremely wealthy. Most of the Republicans who get elected statewide are not people you can trust. I think something like a third of the people in Alaska are Federal Government employees.

    Wyoming’s motto is, “The Equality State”.

  96. @black sea

    from what I’ve seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today’s compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

     

    On the 36-flavored spectrum of sexual desire, there is a category known as "demi," short for demisexual, and bearing no relevance to Demi Moore.

    "A demisexual is a person who does not experience sexual attraction unless they form a strong emotional connection with someone."

    When one of my daughters was explaining this sub-category to me, I replied that this is perhaps what people used to mean by "normal."

    I’m quite sure that it was never normal for most men to require a strong emotional connection with someone in order to feel sexual attraction.

    • Replies: @black sea
    I don't expect people to study my every passing comment, but as I mentioned above, I said this to my daughter. My early teen daughter, more specifically. I don't need to -- nor do I want to -- go into great detail with her on this subject.
  97. @jJay
    Mr. Blank,

    I have looked at Wyoming too. Go to Zillow and check out the real estate prices in and around Jackson Hole. It might as well be coastal California. From City-Data.com Jackson Hole residents voted Democrat over Republican by an almost 2:1 margin in the 2016 election.

    Wyoming is staying red, at least partly,because the native ranchers won't sell to developers that will allow Jackson Hole to expand much. That my guess, anyway. I'd like to hear from someone with closer to situation though.

    Jackson Hole’s popularity is from the spectacular view of the Grand Tetons. It is largely anomalous from the rest of the state price wise; but in general, anything in sight of a scenic mountain or stream brings prices in excess of ag’s earning power; those parts are trending towards a “boutique” mentality with SWPL sensibilities and all that.

  98. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    Deckard: She’s a troll, isn’t she?

    Tyrell: I’m impressed. How many questions does it usually take to spot them?

    Deckard: I don’t get it, Tyrell.

    Tyrell: How many questions?

    Deckard: Twenty, thirty, cross-referenced.

    Tyrell: It took more than a hundred for Rachael, didn’t it?

    Deckard: She doesn’t know.

    Tyrell: She’s beginning to suspect, I think.

    Deckard: Suspect? How can it not know what it is?

    • Replies: @Seth Largo
    Lol. +1

    But let's play nice. 90% of my posts lately are not-so-subtle appeals to the better angels of the Right's nature. Here's a woman talking about Anglo-Confucian alliances and dysgenic population growth, and you're going to crap on her over a few points of disagreement? That's not the way to win hearts, minds, elections, or cultures.

    There's nothing that deep-sixes Left Revolution like right-wing talking points coming from the oppressed of the earth. You're never going to get 70% of the oppressed voting R, but you can get 40%, maybe 45%, and if you do that, you've won.

    So let's play nice, eh? Seven days a week, I'll take a part-time lesbian who wants to curb immigration over a straight while male who advocates for open borders and tweets about white replacement with glee.
  99. @eah
    Few people would argue with your banality -- but it's not apparent you see or understand the nature and scale of the problem -- the cost and the corruption involved.

    Here is one example:

    The Chicago Pension Scandal: $100,000+ Teacher Pensions Costing Taxpayers $1 Billion

    This week, our organization at OpenTheBooks.com debuted our interactive info mapping platform giving context to the 7,499 retired Illinois educators who pulled-down a pension of $100,000 or more. These retirees cost Illinois taxpayers $900 million (2015). Individually, these pension millionaires contributed so little to the system that they ‘broke-even’ on their ‘cost-basis’ within the first 20-months of retirement. It takes the equivalent of all income taxes paid by 330,177 individual Illinois taxpayers to fund the nearly $1 billion for the 7,499 ‘highly compensated’ six-figure retirees.

    Use of the coercive tax system to 'fix' this is immoral and disgusting.

    Feel free to send your own personal checks to these retirees.

    Eh, your hostility towards Seamus seems a bit laughable. Many high-earning people very consciously choose to live in IL despite its corruption having been world-renowned for generations. Perhaps one day the golden-egg-laying goose will kick the bucket, but for the foreseeable future she is very healthy. I assume you live in IL and are not obscenely wealthy, so I do sympathize with you, but I think excessive pensions of retired teachers is pretty low on the list of problems that IL faces.

    • Replies: @eah
    Why do you think I feel "hostility" toward him? -- because I called his comment a "banality" -- his comment is banal -- and there is no evidence in it that he sees the nature and scale of the problem; is that not also true?

    For the record: any "hostility" I feel is reserved for those who want to fleece me to provide cushy retirements -- far more cushy than mine will be -- for public employees, many of whom contributed next to nothing: Individually, these pension millionaires contributed so little to the system that they ‘broke-even’ on their ‘cost-basis’ within the first 20-months of retirement.

    Please: in the future, do not presume anything about what I may or may not feel about another commenter and/or his comment -- and wasting a comment here on it is ridiculous.

    Speaking of "laughable":

    I assume you live in IL and are not obscenely wealthy, so I do sympathize with you

    No, I don't live in IL. But per my first comment, soon it may not matter: they will seek to distribute these costs over the taxpaying population of the entire country, including those not yet born.

    And the problem is a LOT bigger than IL.

  100. @AndrewR
    Eh, your hostility towards Seamus seems a bit laughable. Many high-earning people very consciously choose to live in IL despite its corruption having been world-renowned for generations. Perhaps one day the golden-egg-laying goose will kick the bucket, but for the foreseeable future she is very healthy. I assume you live in IL and are not obscenely wealthy, so I do sympathize with you, but I think excessive pensions of retired teachers is pretty low on the list of problems that IL faces.

    Why do you think I feel “hostility” toward him? — because I called his comment a “banality” — his comment is banal — and there is no evidence in it that he sees the nature and scale of the problem; is that not also true?

    For the record: any “hostility” I feel is reserved for those who want to fleece me to provide cushy retirements — far more cushy than mine will be — for public employees, many of whom contributed next to nothing: Individually, these pension millionaires contributed so little to the system that they ‘broke-even’ on their ‘cost-basis’ within the first 20-months of retirement.

    Please: in the future, do not presume anything about what I may or may not feel about another commenter and/or his comment — and wasting a comment here on it is ridiculous.

    Speaking of “laughable”:

    I assume you live in IL and are not obscenely wealthy, so I do sympathize with you

    No, I don’t live in IL. But per my first comment, soon it may not matter: they will seek to distribute these costs over the taxpaying population of the entire country, including those not yet born.

    And the problem is a LOT bigger than IL.

    • Replies: @AndrewR

    Feel free to send your own personal checks to these retirees.
     
    This was a hostile comment.

    I've said worse, and I'm sure you have too, but don't pretend it wasn't hostile.

    Anyway, banal as his comment may have been, he is right. The 0.05% are laughing all the way to the bank while the peasants are getting triggered over excessive teacher pensions.

  101. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I anxiously await any suggestions; all the oxygen seems to be sucked out of the room by the pro-immigrant, pro-LGBTQWERTY faction.

  102. @Desiderius
    Most lesbians until graduation in my experience are young women who can’t find a young man dominant enough to get them off. Why this problem is endemic in a university setting is left as an exercise for the reader.

    There is, I believe, another dimension to LUGs (Lesbians Until Graduation), mindful that coeds find a revoltingly small number of marriageable males in today’s universities.

    When our daughter was in high school a few years ago, we got an earful about her and her friends’ social lives. A recurrent theme was that so-and-so had just declared that she was a lesbian. This typically lasted about two weeks … until a boyfriend miraculously (re)appeared.

    Could it be? Young women today are embarrassed when they cannot attract boyfriends … someone to walk arm in arm about the school to broadcast their sexual desirability. How humiliating when you do not have one! However, in our advanced stage of social degeneration, a socially acceptable excuse is readily available. “I don’t have a boyfriend because I’m a lesbian.” End of discussion.

    Ok, now we know. Being heterosexual (with a boyfriend) and being a lesbian (without a boyfriend) are both equally acceptable. Right? Maybe not.

    So, when we would hear another lamentable tale about so-and-so being is a lesbian, we would reassure our daughter, “No worry, give her two weeks.”

    The coeds in today’s universities just need to suffer the humiliation of not being able to attract a boyfriend over a much longer period of time.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    Boyfriend/girlfriend should stop once those involved are no longer boys or girls. When my grandmother met my grandfather, she had three suitors vying for her hand.

    Exclusivity took a ring.
  103. @Trelane
    Iceland may be chilly and volcanic but it is ranked as the 9th most developed country in the world. It is the seventh most productive country in the world. Iceland is energy independant. It has its own independant central bank and soverien currency. Iceland has the second highest rated quality of life in the world. Iceland has universal health care which is considered of very good quality. Icelanders have among the highest longevity of any people. Iceland has a very low Gini index--that is, a low amount of income inequality. There is almost no crime in Iceland. The total fertility rate (TFR) for women in Iceland is 2.1: the only European country that is reproductive. Phone books in iceland are alphebetized by first name. Some 98% of icelanders are under the impression that they can rely on someone they know to help them, a far higher percentage than in other industrialized countries.

    If I was an extraterrestrial alien who wanted to conquer and destroy Iceland the first thing I'd do is appoint bjork as leader. Then I'd bring in immigrants.

    Then I’d bring in immigrants.

    They’re already arriving.

    • Replies: @Lagertha
    Scandinavians are naive and stupid. They are no longer their grandfathers' and grandmothers' culture - they are just weak as crap to the PC lords of the EU...so ewwwwww.
  104. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I’m a mom now, but I was a ‘lesbian until graduation.’ I’ll never repudiate that part of me.

    * * *

    The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history.

    Aren’t you a data point that stands as evidence that homosexual identity theory is bunkum? You weren’t a “lesbian” in college, you engaged in homosexual behavior on a circumstantial basis and within the context of a fairly historically unique environment. A residential college experience where thousands of 18-21 year olds congregate away from the communities in which they were nurtured and in which they can construct entirely novel identities is not a common or natural thing. Did you also gravitate towards Women’s Studies and feminist theory before or concurrent with your “lesbian” identity (reference to the Abrahamic religions is a dead giveaway of some radfem indoctrination)? Once you progressed out of that unusual environment and context you reverted back to the norm. You clearly no longer “identify” as a lesbian. That’s because you never were one – no one is or has been.

    You weren’t stoned to death in the town square? Then your complaint about Abrahamic religions is a bit of weak tea. You also stand as evidence that people can and do change their behavior and reform it – which is sort of the point of Christianity.

    • Replies: @Disordered
    Not to mention, said Christianity has some slight points in her favor (do not judge lest ye be judged, let him cast the first stone, etc) that seeped into the Enlightenment... compare that to the other Abrahamic religions, one small and wealthy but racially exclusive, and the other getting more converts in the West than anyone right now, which would stone her on sight...

    Agreed completely. That said, I believe some LGBTQwhatever will never be normies, and therefore it is up to God to judge them properly. If they take care of some kids while only having one partner and staying away from disease and decadence and id politics, then they can be tolerable. But of course, most believe in the rainbow flag fantasy (and building up special interests by adding more letters), more than in their nation or Western culture.
  105. @eah
    Why do you think I feel "hostility" toward him? -- because I called his comment a "banality" -- his comment is banal -- and there is no evidence in it that he sees the nature and scale of the problem; is that not also true?

    For the record: any "hostility" I feel is reserved for those who want to fleece me to provide cushy retirements -- far more cushy than mine will be -- for public employees, many of whom contributed next to nothing: Individually, these pension millionaires contributed so little to the system that they ‘broke-even’ on their ‘cost-basis’ within the first 20-months of retirement.

    Please: in the future, do not presume anything about what I may or may not feel about another commenter and/or his comment -- and wasting a comment here on it is ridiculous.

    Speaking of "laughable":

    I assume you live in IL and are not obscenely wealthy, so I do sympathize with you

    No, I don't live in IL. But per my first comment, soon it may not matter: they will seek to distribute these costs over the taxpaying population of the entire country, including those not yet born.

    And the problem is a LOT bigger than IL.

    Feel free to send your own personal checks to these retirees.

    This was a hostile comment.

    I’ve said worse, and I’m sure you have too, but don’t pretend it wasn’t hostile.

    Anyway, banal as his comment may have been, he is right. The 0.05% are laughing all the way to the bank while the peasants are getting triggered over excessive teacher pensions.

  106. @AndrewR
    I'm quite sure that it was never normal for most men to require a strong emotional connection with someone in order to feel sexual attraction.

    I don’t expect people to study my every passing comment, but as I mentioned above, I said this to my daughter. My early teen daughter, more specifically. I don’t need to — nor do I want to — go into great detail with her on this subject.

  107. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    What did she say? She was all over the landscape from lesbianism to Confucius and something about the melding of Eastern and Western ways of life as the way to maintain Anglo-American values.

    A question: Did she learn how to do that at the university … that is, fuse baskets of incompatible concepts within an effervescent dialectic?

    I’m old enough to recall the hippie movement of the 1960s. As I recall, you were always expected to chant after an emotional discharge: “Ommm”; “Ommm”; “Ommm.”

  108. @Desiderius
    Most lesbians until graduation in my experience are young women who can’t find a young man dominant enough to get them off. Why this problem is endemic in a university setting is left as an exercise for the reader.

    Most lesbians until graduation in my experience are young women who can’t find a young man dominant enough to get them off. Why this problem is endemic in a university setting is left as an exercise for the reader.

    It’s anecdata but it was a fairly common phenomenon at Bryn Mawr in the 90s.

    The progression commonly starts with an introduction to women’s studies, then some sort of feminist/radical activism where lesbian relationships just seem like an expression of the radfem politics and where they meet the more forward lesbians who have designs to seduce the fresh meat. Obviously Bryn Mawr self-selects for a certain kind of student who finds a women-only campus desirable, and you’d presume that it would attract more pre-college lesbians than average.

    I’ve also heard stories of lesbian “studs” on women’s college sports teams (in this case, soccer) serially seducing formerly straight members of the team. In that case the women are always together, and they travel together, etc.

    I think some of this as you say is probably a function of the current disposition on the college campus where absolute sexual liberation for Coeds is seen as a universal self-evident good while simultaneously there is a rape hysteria which is a pretext for quasi-legal criminalisation of straight male behavior generally and sexual behavior in particular. This seems like a particularly and uniquely well-suited environment for aggressive lesbian seducers.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    A guy in my fantasy baseball league, a good 60s Boomer lib, has a daughter, a fairly pretty blonde, at Bard playing at the "Gay for the Day" thing at college. He thought it was a good thing, exploring her sexuality and keeping her away from the influence of evil college boys, until the day she complained about the REAL lesbian athletes being rather persistent in their advances.

    When he told the story, I asked him if he realized that data shows women in same-sex relationships are victims of partner abuse at higher rates than those in straight relationships. He said it was my right-wing Neanderthal attitude making up stories. I told him to Google it, and he did. It shook his worldview a bit.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648
  109. @AndrewR
    "The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo."

    Cite both claims

    “The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo.”

    Cite both claims

    Good point. I think the trannies may be eclipsing the vanilla sodomites.

  110. @jJay
    Mr. Blank,

    I have looked at Wyoming too. Go to Zillow and check out the real estate prices in and around Jackson Hole. It might as well be coastal California. From City-Data.com Jackson Hole residents voted Democrat over Republican by an almost 2:1 margin in the 2016 election.

    Wyoming is staying red, at least partly,because the native ranchers won't sell to developers that will allow Jackson Hole to expand much. That my guess, anyway. I'd like to hear from someone with closer to situation though.

    That’s just one town. Wyoming was the most pro Trump state in the 2016 election. And just because one town in Montana elected a refugee, again, there are many towns in the state.

    I think conservatives should colonize Maine which is moving our way politically.

  111. @eah
    https://johndenugent.com/images/white-woman-subway-diversity-blacks-326x245.jpg

    Fat boy should stop stroking his balls!

  112. @black sea

    from what I’ve seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today’s compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

     

    On the 36-flavored spectrum of sexual desire, there is a category known as "demi," short for demisexual, and bearing no relevance to Demi Moore.

    "A demisexual is a person who does not experience sexual attraction unless they form a strong emotional connection with someone."

    When one of my daughters was explaining this sub-category to me, I replied that this is perhaps what people used to mean by "normal."

    Okaaay, but what is “demi-” about that?

    • Replies: @black sea
    I'm getting too many weird or incomprehensible responses to my comment. Forget that I ever wrote it.
  113. @Lagertha
    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as "states rights" and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants - because: Mormons. Also, Arizona is good if you are rich...or have enough savings to hang with the well-off in Sedona, or something. Everywhere else, you better have good guns.

    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as “states rights” and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants – because: Mormons.

    Hahahaha. Ummmm…maybe. There is the corrupt Mormon leadership and then there is the laity. The corrupt Mormon leadership is increasingly pushing open borders, refugees, diversity, “the Utah Compact” (an open borders agenda document signed by several church leaders) all in the name of helping to boost its membership (whites don’t join the LDS Church in any substantial numbers anymore) and cheap labor.

    The laity has been known to jilt the leadership’s secular preferences from time to time. There was the defeat of Bob Bennett in 2010 and of Chris Cannon in 2008. Several other lesser known pro-open border state legislators have been defeated, as well.

    How bad has the Mormon leadership become? The Church-owned paper, the Deseret News, has been pushing an open borders agenda for probably about two decades. During the height of the immigration debates about ten years ago the paper was publishing roughly one pro-amnesty editorial a week for months on end, saying some rather nasty things about those who disagreed (many of whom are good, decent Mormons). When Bob Bennett was defeated in the GOP primary in 2010 and his son Jim decided to campaign for the Democratic candidate the Deseret News gave Bennett’s opponents a giant middle finger by giving both father AND son columns in the paper within a year.

    But mostly the laity does what it’s told. There are a few good aspects to Mormonism. They continue to have respectable if shrinking birthrates, they still get married sooner, etc. But anything the Mormon leadership actively has its hands in is pretty much rot. If American Mormonism ever loses its predominantly Anglo/Scandinavian flavor it is doomed.

  114. @Almost Missouri
    Okaaay, but what is "demi-" about that?

    I’m getting too many weird or incomprehensible responses to my comment. Forget that I ever wrote it.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Laughing, yes you're right. I saw some of the responses and they're weird with intellectualoid overtones. A little self-restraint, a little thoughtfulness as man (and particularly woman) look for intimacy sounds completely nuts to the new pagans. This outlook will not be followed by positive developments.
  115. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    But it’s ok to be white, so there is no need to relocate.

  116. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie
    When I hear people speak like this in earnest, I must confess that I do get some Francoist fantasies in my mind.

    Laughing here. Franco was actually a pretty good leader, who knew who he was up against –in a way we don’t or have forgotten–, able militarily, extremely nimble politically (specially when considering the state of the economy he inherited and the int’l blockade) and an extraordinary communicator. I’d say he won the battle for language and right reason with two simple phrases: “anti-Spain” and “judeo-Masonic cabal”. He had intellectual depth to back them up, of course. And he did have a path to national reconciliation.

    Nowadays the leftist ideological bulldozer makes fun of his title “Caudillo of Spain by the grace of God”, but I believe it was precise, and even humble. Not that he didn’t have flaws, of course.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    There are reasons why I wrote "Francoist," not "Hitlerist" or "Mussolinist."

    My aforementioned fantasy is more Falangist, less Fascist let alone Nazi.
  117. @Whiskey
    Lets be realistic. We are not voting our way out of this. Demography is destiny, VA was reliably Republican no matter what the candidate and is now solidly Democrat. That is the destiny of the US. Trump has made no moves and desires to make no real moves to do anything about immigration, legal or illegal. No border wall, no deportation forces, no moves on sanctuary cities, no arrests, no showdowns, no moves on trade or punishing Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc. for their H1-B Visa use, nothing. It is only a matter for the 2018 mid-terms when Dems impeach Trump, and a Senate with panicked and GOPe Republicans convict him.

    The only question is who will win the Game of Thrones: Nancy Pelosi as Speaker again? Hillary (who seems to think so) or say Kamala Harris?

    Nope, the "Coalition of the Fringes" (really the CENTER of American and Western Life now) is very solid: White people who desperately need Self Righteous disdain on other Whites, Nice White Ladies, Gays/Lesbians/BLT-QWERTY and Non-Whites. All united in their HATE HATE HATE of White Beta Males who they just HATE HATE HATE.

    These are the people running major corporations, the media, the military, the government, the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Christian Churches, Hollywood, universities, the school systems, etc. EVERY major and minor power center in the West.

    Nope, what is imperative is White male survival and thus White survival. All these groups HATE HATE HATE White men. Particularly those self-righteous SWPL White men who have no religion to fill their void. Moreover the need for "jobs for the trannies" and various non-Whites, etc. means as Michelle Obama observed, some White people (White men) will have to be tossed out so Wise Latinas etc. can take their place. Self-righteous fury will only increase as Good Whites engage in "Progressive Stacking" and toss Whites to the back of the bus, the classroom, job promotion etc.

    But the real issue is money and competence. Neither is in large amounts among non-Whites, the BLT-QWERTY community, Nice White Ladies, etc. This implies a giant slavery system for White men that insures the money flows in and the sewage treatment plants, power plants, and air traffic control systems run. Not to mention the military systems, procurement, supplies, and so on needed to keep White men in place as latter day helots run by the Soy-Boy Neo Spartans of flapping wrists and uptalking manners.

    THAT is worth preventing. A dominant non-White society literally cannot run without White men in figurative if not literal chains. There will be no money and competence otherwise and I guarantee you that neither Kamala Harris nor Hillary Clinton are going to allow themselves to live like Saddam in some spider-hole. Certainly their massive patronage network will not survive on Iraqi levels of prosperity and competence.

    Do the math -- a doubling of the non-White population means a halving of the opportunities and money available to the White male population. As well as personal freedom to do what they please, already Black Lives Matter is all about establishing Black male dominance over White men.

    Black Lives Matter is all about establishing Black male dominance over White men

    No, BLM is about replacing the old Black leadership with a young homosexual Black-ish leadership. Donna Brazile gets this, which is why she is slamming Clinton-world, which like Bush-world, doesn’t realize it is ‘over’.

  118. @TheJester
    My take: The reason the Republicans lost many mid-term elections is the scale of infighting between Trumpites in the New Republican Party and the leaders of the Chamber of Commerce Republican Club. The latter is not really a political party; it lacks a voting base. However, their club has a legacy of elected officials that include the Speak of the House, Paul Ryan, and the Majority Leader of the Senate, Mitch McConnel.

    Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnel have done everything they can to sabotage President Trump's political agenda, including controlling immigration, revamping Obamacare, and tax reform. The reason is that Ryan and McConnel come from the tradition of Republicrats and Democrans who protect the same vested interests on Wall Street and within corporations, especially the military-industrial complex. Based on social issues, there might appear to be a difference between let's say, Hillary Clinton and Mitch McConnel ... but on substantive issues there is none.

    The two wings of the Uniparty try to create the illusion of two political parties by adhering to a different set of peripheral social issues. For example, the Republicrats might genuflect to anti-abortion conservatives to win their vote. However, post-election, they do nothing to further that social cause by, let's say, cutting government subsidies to Planned Parenthood.

    The Republicrats and Democrans work for the same people on Wall Street. The appearance of a political process in Washington DC is an illusion ... political theater for the masses. At the end of the day, both Republicrats and Democrans advocate open borders, mass immigration, globalization, anti-natalist feminism, the legitimization of sexual deviancy, racial and cultural diversity, tax dodges for the rich, perpetual war, and other interests dear to the hearts of the rentier class.

    It's been Donald Trump against the plutocrats in the Washington DC Uniparty, otherwise known as the Swamp. The Uniparty has been doing everything it can to isolate Trump.

    Donald Trump is a plutocrat, make no mistake about it. The tax plan is plutocracy on steroids–a historic slashing of the corporate tax rate, bringing the top individual rate down to 35 percent, and introducing a loophole allowing people like **hedge-fund managers and lawyers** to reorganize their businesses as pass-through entities and pay the corporate rate on their income, which Trump wants to be 15 percent. Furthermore, there is no provision that mandates the tax savings businesses would accrue must go directly back into company growth, rather than as bonus pay and stock dividends.

    Not exactly populist ideas.

    **Do you want these groups of people who are typically Jews to earn even more money and further embed themselves as elitists hellbent on spreading globalist propaganda and the “benefits” of Cultural Marxism?

  119. @Marat
    A true progressive only sees the man-spreading, then promptly doesn't see it.

    Tiny Duck be seen it……and seen it, and seen it, and seen it!

    Leneurd “I callz em liks I seez em” PyttttZ

  120. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Except that it's not OK to be white.

    Give me a call when a business leader or politician explicitly states that it's OK to be white. I do my own little part by teaching my kids that they should be proud of their European heritage and quietly proclaiming the same in public.

    This isn't my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.

    We're all Jews now. Act like it.

    “This isn’t my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.”

    It was never YOUR country to begin with. It is OUR nation. Now, unless you can prove that your ancestors directly came from Great Britain and are thus properly equipped to put into practice Anglo-Saxon political philosophies, as theorized by Vox Day, then you must go back.

    Besides, is not your advice that “We’re all Jews now. Act like it” run counter to the current meme of the day “It’s ok to be white”? Where is your loyalty to us “good whites”? Make up your mind.

    • Replies: @fish

    We’re all Jews now. Act like it”
     
    It’s an emulation of a successful strategy Corvi. Surely you can figure that out?”
  121. @black sea
    I'm getting too many weird or incomprehensible responses to my comment. Forget that I ever wrote it.

    Laughing, yes you’re right. I saw some of the responses and they’re weird with intellectualoid overtones. A little self-restraint, a little thoughtfulness as man (and particularly woman) look for intimacy sounds completely nuts to the new pagans. This outlook will not be followed by positive developments.

  122. Thanks, guys and gals (and whoever else) for all the comments. Humor in the face of insanity just felt right, made morning coffee way better and so I came back to post this. There’s hope yet!

  123. @Hail

    It’s more like Divierarchy than Diversity
     
    Multicultacracy.

    Caste Diversity.

  124. Policy-wise, this rainbow coalition is pretty vanilla.

    True, most of the African Americans ran on far-left platforms that were explicitly or implicitly racialized. However, the others are far more centrist, even right-of-center, and almost none of them dog-whistled against the white man during their campaigns. Some selected observations:

    Hoboken’s new Sikh mayor loves charter schools and wants to build fewer apartments, more single family homes.

    The transgender state representative’s whole schtick is fixing infrastructure. Her website only has one boilerplate line about respecting diversity. During the whole campaign, she released a video about being trans but otherwise refused to play up her identity.

    The Wise Latina Topeka mayor is hardcore pro-business. She wants to give out lots of tax exemptions to lure businesses to town. She also wants to ramp up neighborhood code enforcements to keep Topeka from looking like a ghetto.

    In fact, the most “revolutionary” candidate who won—the self-proclaimed Democratic Socialist—is
    . . . a white guy! And a redheaded one at that!

  125. @eah
    OT

    Another kind of coalition:

    Pension Bailout Bill To Be Introduced This Week

    According to Pensions and Investments magazine, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio plans to introduce legislation that would allow struggling multiemployer pension funds to borrow from the U.S. Treasury to remain solvent...The bill, which is co-sponsored by another Democrat, Rep. Tim Ryan, also of Ohio, could be introduced as soon as this week or shortly after. It would create a new office within the Treasury Department called the Pension Rehabilitation Administration. The funds would come from the sale of Treasury-issued bonds to financial institutions. The pension funds could borrow for 30 years at low interest rates. The one, and painfully amusing, restriction for borrowers is "they could not make risky investments", which of course will be promptly circumvented in hopes of generating outsized returns and repaying the Treasury's "bailout" loan, ultimately leading to massive losses on what is effectively a taxpayer-funded pension bailout.

    A conspiracy coalition of corrupt, greedy public officials and employee unions has for decades fleeced taxpayers with unaffordably generous and therefore chronically and hopelessly underfunded pay, benefit, and pension schemes -- they will now try to widen the net of those responsible for the costs to include future generations of federal taxpayers.

    I think the bill is intended to bail out private sector [“multi-employer”] union pension funds, not funds for government employees. This is about helping Teamsters, not teachers.

  126. @Bugg
    NJ was a disaster because Christie, somewhere between the bridge and his insane presidential ambitions, killed his own party's chances. And New Jerseyans instead elected a Goldman Sachs guy which worked so well with Jon Corzine.In debates Murphy even had the moderator saying he was lying through his teeth. Good frickin' luck.

    Gillespie was a GOP swamp lobbyist from Bush HQ who paid lip service to Trumpism. And north VA is swamp central. And please, Dems, run that Stars and Bars/Gadsen flag truck ad everywhere next year.Remind Whitey you hate them every chance you get.

    If Trump doesn't get immigration and taxes done, and keeps the wars going, the GOP is going to have a rough time in 2018. But If he can herd Ryan, McConnell and their cats to do those things, he will be in good position for 2020.

    When we learn that the two-party system no longer works?

  127. @Almost Missouri
    As others have noted here before, LGBTBYOB is a synthetic coalition of unlike parts that don't naturally congregate except as a political convenience for the Democratic Party. The coalition member that causes the most widespread revulsion is the sodomists, who lean heavily pedo. Nobody much cares one way or the other about lesbians, particularly the Lesbians Until Graduation, which I suspect many men find a bit intriguing. Not speculating about your case, but from what I've seen a lot of these girls would have been chaste in a former culture, but in today's compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    tl;dr: If lesbians didn't hang around sodomists for the convenience of the Dems, they wouldn't be feeling the incoming fire. You're basically human shields for homo-pedos.

    Otherwise I largely agree.

    but in today’s compulsory hyper-sexualization, girls adopt a defensive lesbianism as a socially acceptable alternative to chastity.

    Despite all the surface evidence, the younger people these days are having sex less, at later ages, and with few partners. Interesting how that coontrasts with the 24×7 nonstop chatter about gender, gay marriage, hookup culture, etc, you’d think the era is obsessed with sex.

    But it isn’t, it is an era obsessed with fretting about sex issues.

  128. @Lagertha
    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as "states rights" and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants - because: Mormons. Also, Arizona is good if you are rich...or have enough savings to hang with the well-off in Sedona, or something. Everywhere else, you better have good guns.

    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as “states rights” and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants – because: Mormons.

    Years ago, I would have agreed with this, but Mormonism somewhere got hopelessly cucked along the way.

  129. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    I am looking at Tennessee. It’s among the most Republican states now and, although seemingly not as culturally conservative as, say, Wyoming, it has better weather and checks a lot of boxes. Low taxes, and Nashville is booming.

  130. Your comment makes sense. I just don’t understand why our new Powers That Be use “demi-“, which means “half”, to convey the meaning of emotional involvement? It seems like exactly the opposite of the sort of word that should be used for that meaning.

  131. @Alec Leamas

    Most lesbians until graduation in my experience are young women who can’t find a young man dominant enough to get them off. Why this problem is endemic in a university setting is left as an exercise for the reader.
     
    It's anecdata but it was a fairly common phenomenon at Bryn Mawr in the 90s.

    The progression commonly starts with an introduction to women's studies, then some sort of feminist/radical activism where lesbian relationships just seem like an expression of the radfem politics and where they meet the more forward lesbians who have designs to seduce the fresh meat. Obviously Bryn Mawr self-selects for a certain kind of student who finds a women-only campus desirable, and you'd presume that it would attract more pre-college lesbians than average.

    I've also heard stories of lesbian "studs" on women's college sports teams (in this case, soccer) serially seducing formerly straight members of the team. In that case the women are always together, and they travel together, etc.

    I think some of this as you say is probably a function of the current disposition on the college campus where absolute sexual liberation for Coeds is seen as a universal self-evident good while simultaneously there is a rape hysteria which is a pretext for quasi-legal criminalisation of straight male behavior generally and sexual behavior in particular. This seems like a particularly and uniquely well-suited environment for aggressive lesbian seducers.

    A guy in my fantasy baseball league, a good 60s Boomer lib, has a daughter, a fairly pretty blonde, at Bard playing at the “Gay for the Day” thing at college. He thought it was a good thing, exploring her sexuality and keeping her away from the influence of evil college boys, until the day she complained about the REAL lesbian athletes being rather persistent in their advances.

    When he told the story, I asked him if he realized that data shows women in same-sex relationships are victims of partner abuse at higher rates than those in straight relationships. He said it was my right-wing Neanderthal attitude making up stories. I told him to Google it, and he did. It shook his worldview a bit.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    He thought it was a good thing
     
    Boomer fathers of college age daughters have reached world-historical levels of parental malpractice.
  132. @Brutusale
    A guy in my fantasy baseball league, a good 60s Boomer lib, has a daughter, a fairly pretty blonde, at Bard playing at the "Gay for the Day" thing at college. He thought it was a good thing, exploring her sexuality and keeping her away from the influence of evil college boys, until the day she complained about the REAL lesbian athletes being rather persistent in their advances.

    When he told the story, I asked him if he realized that data shows women in same-sex relationships are victims of partner abuse at higher rates than those in straight relationships. He said it was my right-wing Neanderthal attitude making up stories. I told him to Google it, and he did. It shook his worldview a bit.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648

    He thought it was a good thing

    Boomer fathers of college age daughters have reached world-historical levels of parental malpractice.

  133. @Maj. Kong
    The tax reform has to abandon the pretense that it is still 1980.

    Tax-exempt foundations should disperse 10% per annum, rather than the existing 5%. That should destroy most of them through attrition, depriving a major source of funding for the left.

    Capital gains should be subject to ordinary income tax rates, at least for the billionaire class. They should also be taxed to shore up the entitlement programs. This will also help reduce the impact of asset-price bubbles.

    A tax on remittances should be enacted, it should first pay for the border wall. When the wall is complete it should be used for infrastructure spending, and possibly a child tax credit that only goes to the middle class.

    Mandatory E-Verify should be included as part of the tax reform. It will certainly increase revenue.

    If the GOP stops being cuckolded by billionaires...

    Major –

    every one of those ideas is too sensible ever to be tried.

    Sorry.

  134. @Mr. Anon

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color
     
    If you want to know what the future that you desire looks like, just play the movie 2001: A Space Odyssey backwards.

    LoL.

    Best post of the thread.

  135. @eah
    OT

    Another kind of coalition:

    Pension Bailout Bill To Be Introduced This Week

    According to Pensions and Investments magazine, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio plans to introduce legislation that would allow struggling multiemployer pension funds to borrow from the U.S. Treasury to remain solvent...The bill, which is co-sponsored by another Democrat, Rep. Tim Ryan, also of Ohio, could be introduced as soon as this week or shortly after. It would create a new office within the Treasury Department called the Pension Rehabilitation Administration. The funds would come from the sale of Treasury-issued bonds to financial institutions. The pension funds could borrow for 30 years at low interest rates. The one, and painfully amusing, restriction for borrowers is "they could not make risky investments", which of course will be promptly circumvented in hopes of generating outsized returns and repaying the Treasury's "bailout" loan, ultimately leading to massive losses on what is effectively a taxpayer-funded pension bailout.

    A conspiracy coalition of corrupt, greedy public officials and employee unions has for decades fleeced taxpayers with unaffordably generous and therefore chronically and hopelessly underfunded pay, benefit, and pension schemes -- they will now try to widen the net of those responsible for the costs to include future generations of federal taxpayers.

    Your description is a bit off. What are known as ‘multiemployer pensions’ are labor union pension plans. There are any number of union pension plans nearing default because the underlying funding mechanism is Ponzi-like. The long ago mob-controlled Central States Pension Plan (Teamsters’ Union) is at the center of this controversy. It was run/controlled out of Ohio.

    This new Pension Rehabilitation Administration would be on top of the existing (1970s era) Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation. The PBGC already covers such multiemployer union pension plans, although the ‘guaranteed’ pension benefit tops out at around $30,000 per year per beneficiary. In the case of the CSPP, the PBGC benefit is about $35 per month per year worked.

    The CSPP rehabilitation was rejected as inadequate by Obama’s Treasury in 2016. This effort is the latest in taxpayer bailouts for the too big to fail crowd.

    • Replies: @eah
    Also (at)FPD72

    Thanks for the correction -- both of you are correct about the upcoming bill -- but as the article makes clear, public employee pensions are very likely next:

    And now that the machinery for pension bailouts is finally in motion, we look forward to the next, and possibly final, tear in the American social fabric, that between workers who can't wait to retire to the generous pension promises...

    There is a link to this article (among others on the ZH site):

    Why Illinois Is In Trouble - 63,000 Public Employees With $100,000+ Salaries Cost Taxpayers $10 Billion

    I find this subject interesting because I believe that when the shit hits the fan it will dwarf sub-prime.

  136. The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I’m a mom now, but I was a ‘lesbian until graduation.’ I’ll never repudiate that part of me.

    Sorry, sweety. The fact that you believed something for a moment does not obligate the rest of us to believe it ourselves, in perpetuity.

  137. @eah
    https://johndenugent.com/images/white-woman-subway-diversity-blacks-326x245.jpg

    I haven’t seen a Phil Simms jersey in ages.

  138. @Anon
    Exactly. Immigration restrictions blend logically with two historically liberal-left positions:
    1. Pro-labor policy.
    2. Environmentalism.

    Steve Bannon clearly gets No. 1.

    The left is actually quite vulnerable on No. 2 because they can no longer address the elephant in the room on sustainability: "black and brown" population growth. Their environmental positions are nonsensical when contrasted with the demand for perpetual growth in neoliberalism.

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I'm a mom now, but I was a 'lesbian until graduation.' I'll never repudiate that part of me. When you trash trans people or gays, it just reminds me that while you may not be ISIS, you're not someone I feel I can trust. The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history. A real solution to Cultural Marxism and dysgenic population growth will be novel, not reactionary.

    I'm also more committed to maintain Anglo-American values by any means than trying to maintain a white majority. Attacking multiculturalism as a divisive force to break off members of "fringes," who actually think for themselves, is much more fruitful than whining about demographic change that you needed to hop in your Delorean and stop back in 1986. Along that same line there's also a lot of unexplored potential for a European-Confucian alliance, the later not wanting to be ruled by the surfeit populace of Africa and the Islamic world either.

    Tiny Duckette, is that you?

  139. @Forbes
    Does the NYT style guide require every story to have a Trump hook?

    Is there any story idea more banal than a rhetorical question about Trump? News reporting is passe.

    Yes! Back when I sometimes read the NYT, I began to notice that every story took some some kind of swipe at Donald Trump. It’s one of the reasons that I never read it anymore, on any subject. When stories on science, technology, business, history, sports, everything had a manipulative political comment embedded, you can’t trust any of it. So why read it?

    I liked your comment about the NYT style guide, which we can call the “Slim guide’ after Carlos.

  140. @Corvinus
    "This isn’t my country anymore. I just live here like the rest."

    It was never YOUR country to begin with. It is OUR nation. Now, unless you can prove that your ancestors directly came from Great Britain and are thus properly equipped to put into practice Anglo-Saxon political philosophies, as theorized by Vox Day, then you must go back.

    Besides, is not your advice that "We're all Jews now. Act like it" run counter to the current meme of the day "It's ok to be white"? Where is your loyalty to us "good whites"? Make up your mind.

    We’re all Jews now. Act like it”

    It’s an emulation of a successful strategy Corvi. Surely you can figure that out?”

  141. @27 year old
    Deckard: She's a troll, isn't she?

    Tyrell: I'm impressed. How many questions does it usually take to spot them?

    Deckard: I don't get it, Tyrell.

    Tyrell: How many questions?

    Deckard: Twenty, thirty, cross-referenced.

    Tyrell: It took more than a hundred for Rachael, didn't it?

    Deckard: She doesn't know.

    Tyrell: She's beginning to suspect, I think.

    Deckard: Suspect? How can it not know what it is?

    Lol. +1

    But let’s play nice. 90% of my posts lately are not-so-subtle appeals to the better angels of the Right’s nature. Here’s a woman talking about Anglo-Confucian alliances and dysgenic population growth, and you’re going to crap on her over a few points of disagreement? That’s not the way to win hearts, minds, elections, or cultures.

    There’s nothing that deep-sixes Left Revolution like right-wing talking points coming from the oppressed of the earth. You’re never going to get 70% of the oppressed voting R, but you can get 40%, maybe 45%, and if you do that, you’ve won.

    So let’s play nice, eh? Seven days a week, I’ll take a part-time lesbian who wants to curb immigration over a straight while male who advocates for open borders and tweets about white replacement with glee.

  142. @Flip
    I am thinking Idaho, although eastern Washington could work due to the lack of a state income tax.

    Seattle’s going to amend the state constitution to steal another 15% of workers’ wages.

    Anything but require online sales tax (Amazon’s going to do, what, a trillion in sales in 2017?).

    $15 an hour minimum wage will thus turn into $12.75. Unless there’s a carve-out for minimum wage. In which case yet again the productive middle working and entrepreneurial classes will take the shaft.

    California uber alles, uber alles California.

  143. @Thomas
    To an extent, we’re going to have to expect things to get worse before they get better. Trump blew through the lies of cuckservatism and won the highest office as a political newcomer, but he has the problem of not having come with a real party or even much of a movement following him. It was naive to expect that swamp Republicans were all going to admit that they’ve spent the last 20 years completely screwing up and getting wrong the subject of their careers and lifelong ambitions.

    We have to expect, and even to an extent welcome, 2018 and even perhaps 2020 ending the careers of many of these dead-enders, and finally consigning the “party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan” to the same grave as those dead idols.

    I agree, and that is maybe the only silver lining here.

    Trumo’s overwhelming problem is that he does not have, and is probably incapable of designing, a Trump philosophy with which to build a movement and – most important – groom Congressional adjutants and successors.

    But the worst thing he could have done, in my estimation, is to dump Bannon (at least for public consumption) and replace him with Kushner. Last November, many people voted for Trump for many reasons, not all of them related to him – a lot of people, for instance, were crossing their fingers if not holding their noses and voting against Hillary. Many voted for the promise of having a Bannon among the WH brain trust after an eternity of hollow men in dark suits.

    Nobody voted for Kushner.

    I do not view Tuesday as an asymptonatic speed bump, although the treachery and incompetence of vast portions of the GOP made it inevitable, and even a good thing. But let’s for God’s sake have a lot more Bannon, even in shadow, and a lot less Jared and Ivanka these next two years. We didn’t give him the damn job just so he could go one-up on Dubya as a Bibi buddy.

    • Replies: @LondonBob
    Bannon is running the anti neverTrumpers campaign, he can't do that from the White House, Trump needs deniability.

    I see Kelly's hard-line on immigration is causing the DHS woman to step down, Kelly wants the Hondurans gone.
  144. @Tiny Duck
    So proud of Virginia for electing a trans person. Her opponent, a 25 year entrenched bigot, refused to refer to her as a woman or to debate her. Anti-trans robocalls went out to her district. Virginia GOP sent fliers using male pronouns to refer to her. Happy she won and here's hoping for more trans representation in govt.

    The right wing has no place in America. The future is People of Color. Your descendants will be People of Color

    Republicans showed that they cared more about statues of dead loser racist traitors then they did about immigrants

    Most of the rich guys and gals in coffee-coloured Brazil are whites. Trannies are five times more likely to be murdered in Brazil than the US. Economic inequality in Brazil is much higher than in majority white countries. Traffic jams in Brazil are a nightmare.

    There is no mixed-race, oche utopia for progs.

  145. @Jason Liu
    The average minority IS more naturally conservative than their white liberal allies. The Republicans' error is assuming that translates into votes for them when in fact, tribalism trumps all things.

    You’d think they would learn from the century-old example of the Jews, who are exemplary (small-c) conservatives, with low rates of divorce, illegitimacy, welfare dependency, etc., but who still vote overwhelmingly Democrat because they don’t trust white Christians.

  146. @eah
    https://johndenugent.com/images/white-woman-subway-diversity-blacks-326x245.jpg

    Human refuse, I’m talking about the woman. How could anyone tolerate sitting next to that! That sums up white peoples psychology, “as long as it doesn’t hurt me I’ll be fine”.

  147. @Anon
    It's more like Divierarchy than Diversity. It's about the hierarchy of diversity.

    The key invasive group is Mexicans and Hispanics. And most of them don't rise very high. They come to work as helots and neo-serfs for the more successful urban whites, Jews, Asians, and agro-oligarchs. They don't come for equality. They have misery at home, so they would rather come to work as servants of more successful people. It aint much by American standards but much better than what they got back home.

    So, that is the symbiotic relations between Proglob and Meso-Americans. They will never be equal, but Proglob get cheap and docile servant labor. And Mesos are useful as buffer against black crime and pathology. In turn, Meso-Americans gain a foothold in gringoland. It may not be much, but it's still preferable to living in nations ruled by Latino elites who are terrible and utterly without scruples.

    Elite-Helot Strategy.

    After all, even though the commercial showed Mexicans running from a white man in a truck, the fact is these browns run from brown nations to work for white men with businesses, offices, farms, and yes, even trucks.

    The laughable thing there was an ad–supposedly from Mexican org–casting the dreaded pickup truck as devil incarnate.

    Sorry, but Mexicans just don’t find pickup trucks scary and racist like the Jews, who actually created that ad. In fact, lots of Mexicans come here precisely to be able to afford a nice pickup truck.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    http://articles.latimes.com/1994-04-02/news/mn-41338_1_military-intelligence

    Rumors of Americans stealing children--either to adopt or, in the more fantastic versions, to harvest their organs for transplants--have long circulated in Guatemala and other Latin American nations. But the hysteria that has gripped Guatemala in recent weeks is unprecedented.
     
    There's nothing funny about this. The people who put together that ad knew exactly what they were doing.
  148. @Anon
    Laughing here. Franco was actually a pretty good leader, who knew who he was up against --in a way we don't or have forgotten--, able militarily, extremely nimble politically (specially when considering the state of the economy he inherited and the int'l blockade) and an extraordinary communicator. I'd say he won the battle for language and right reason with two simple phrases: "anti-Spain" and "judeo-Masonic cabal". He had intellectual depth to back them up, of course. And he did have a path to national reconciliation.

    Nowadays the leftist ideological bulldozer makes fun of his title "Caudillo of Spain by the grace of God", but I believe it was precise, and even humble. Not that he didn't have flaws, of course.

    There are reasons why I wrote “Francoist,” not “Hitlerist” or “Mussolinist.”

    My aforementioned fantasy is more Falangist, less Fascist let alone Nazi.

  149. @Another Canadian
    But it's the good ole U.S. of A., isn't it? Transgendered Sikh refugees and all.

    Trump's Asian trip is impressive in that all these Asian countries look like real societies that take themselves seriously, not clown colleges that look at the world through a horribly distorted diversity-inclusion lens, living off the fumes of past generational success. Japan, China, South Korea. These look like serious countries with competent leadership and capable populations. We had better get our act together or be prepared to eat their dust.

    Another, an excellent reply, thank you.

  150. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad
    The laughable thing there was an ad--supposedly from Mexican org--casting the dreaded pickup truck as devil incarnate.

    Sorry, but Mexicans just don't find pickup trucks scary and racist like the Jews, who actually created that ad. In fact, lots of Mexicans come here precisely to be able to afford a nice pickup truck.

    http://articles.latimes.com/1994-04-02/news/mn-41338_1_military-intelligence

    Rumors of Americans stealing children–either to adopt or, in the more fantastic versions, to harvest their organs for transplants–have long circulated in Guatemala and other Latin American nations. But the hysteria that has gripped Guatemala in recent weeks is unprecedented.

    There’s nothing funny about this. The people who put together that ad knew exactly what they were doing.

  151. @AndrewR
    Her husband married her because you're a cisgendered, heterosexual, European-American male? I've heard some weird reasons for getting married but this takes the cake.

    If she previously had been sleeping with the likes of you, rather than with the likes of me, I am quite confident that he would not have touched her with the proverbial ten-foot pole, let alone married her. They both are hereditary Republicans, after all, and do not consider your ilk to be the vanguard of the coming utopia. Besides, she and I dated less than a year and a half after the AIDS epidemic first broke out in America. Sleeping with men who also were sleeping with men was not viewed by heterosexual women– let alone by recent sorority girls, such as she– as a prudent investment in the dating market.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Lol you seem very triggered over a non-offensive joke about your poor wording.
  152. @Forbes
    Your description is a bit off. What are known as 'multiemployer pensions' are labor union pension plans. There are any number of union pension plans nearing default because the underlying funding mechanism is Ponzi-like. The long ago mob-controlled Central States Pension Plan (Teamsters' Union) is at the center of this controversy. It was run/controlled out of Ohio.

    This new Pension Rehabilitation Administration would be on top of the existing (1970s era) Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation. The PBGC already covers such multiemployer union pension plans, although the 'guaranteed' pension benefit tops out at around $30,000 per year per beneficiary. In the case of the CSPP, the PBGC benefit is about $35 per month per year worked.

    The CSPP rehabilitation was rejected as inadequate by Obama's Treasury in 2016. This effort is the latest in taxpayer bailouts for the too big to fail crowd.

    Also (at)FPD72

    Thanks for the correction — both of you are correct about the upcoming bill — but as the article makes clear, public employee pensions are very likely next:

    And now that the machinery for pension bailouts is finally in motion, we look forward to the next, and possibly final, tear in the American social fabric, that between workers who can’t wait to retire to the generous pension promises…

    There is a link to this article (among others on the ZH site):

    Why Illinois Is In Trouble – 63,000 Public Employees With $100,000+ Salaries Cost Taxpayers $10 Billion

    I find this subject interesting because I believe that when the shit hits the fan it will dwarf sub-prime.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    For a non-IL resident you sure are obsessed with the compensation for public sector workers in IL
    , @eah
    As I said the problem is much bigger than IL -- but re salary and benefits (incl pensions) for public employees, here is an example what taxpayers got and are getting for their money:

    Chicago teachers’ test scores worse than Illinois students

    The Chicago Public Schools teachers’ union agreed Tuesday to end the strike and accept some of Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s reforms in exchange for pay increases that would bring the average teacher’s salary to $100,000 a year...Reforms include holding teachers partly accountable for their students standardized test scores...But according to a 2008 study by Illinois Education Research Council, CPS teachers don’t perform much better on standardized tests than their own students.

    The Chicago education system is little more than a money laundering operation facilitated by corrupt politicians who buy the votes of public unions:

    11 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CHICAGO TEACHER PENSIONS

    2. Teacher pension contributions are out of sync with payouts. The average career teacher currently receives an annual pension of $73,350 and will receive a lifetime payout of over $2 million...8. Chicago teacher salaries ramp up quickly...This salary growth has made Chicago’s teachers the highest paid in the nation when compared with teachers in the U.S.’ 10 largest school districts.
  153. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    Deep wilderness is a poor substitute for year-round blue water port access. You don’t need to bolthole on the coast per se, but you had better have a way to get there on short notice. Access and ability to sail on a 20’+ with reasonable draft is ideal. Brush up on your Spanish if you aren’t in the mood to cross an ocean.

  154. @Lagertha
    Joe, don't be such a mean jerk :)

    Lagertha, ….”mean jerk,”a knife to the heart.

    • Replies: @Anon
    "Mean jerk" is too harsh. It makes you sound like Weinstein.
  155. @D. K.
    If she previously had been sleeping with the likes of you, rather than with the likes of me, I am quite confident that he would not have touched her with the proverbial ten-foot pole, let alone married her. They both are hereditary Republicans, after all, and do not consider your ilk to be the vanguard of the coming utopia. Besides, she and I dated less than a year and a half after the AIDS epidemic first broke out in America. Sleeping with men who also were sleeping with men was not viewed by heterosexual women-- let alone by recent sorority girls, such as she-- as a prudent investment in the dating market.

    Lol you seem very triggered over a non-offensive joke about your poor wording.

  156. @Mr. Blank
    Guess I'm crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I'm down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I'll need to start looking abroad.

    I’m thinking Baltimore because 65 % of the pop. will have killed each other within 10 days and I can hold out that long .

    • LOL: dc.sunsets
  157. @eah
    Also (at)FPD72

    Thanks for the correction -- both of you are correct about the upcoming bill -- but as the article makes clear, public employee pensions are very likely next:

    And now that the machinery for pension bailouts is finally in motion, we look forward to the next, and possibly final, tear in the American social fabric, that between workers who can't wait to retire to the generous pension promises...

    There is a link to this article (among others on the ZH site):

    Why Illinois Is In Trouble - 63,000 Public Employees With $100,000+ Salaries Cost Taxpayers $10 Billion

    I find this subject interesting because I believe that when the shit hits the fan it will dwarf sub-prime.

    For a non-IL resident you sure are obsessed with the compensation for public sector workers in IL

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    We'll all be picking up the tab.
    , @Brutusale
    To paraphrase the old saw, you may not be interested in Illinois public employee pensions, but Illinois public employee pensions are interested in you!

    Not really you, though, just your money.
    , @FPD72
    You might not be interested in failing state government retirement funds, but failing state government retirement funds are interested in you (or at least your federal tax dollars to bail them out).

    Oops Brutusale, I didn’t see your comment until I had posted mine.

  158. @Thomas
    To an extent, we’re going to have to expect things to get worse before they get better. Trump blew through the lies of cuckservatism and won the highest office as a political newcomer, but he has the problem of not having come with a real party or even much of a movement following him. It was naive to expect that swamp Republicans were all going to admit that they’ve spent the last 20 years completely screwing up and getting wrong the subject of their careers and lifelong ambitions.

    We have to expect, and even to an extent welcome, 2018 and even perhaps 2020 ending the careers of many of these dead-enders, and finally consigning the “party of Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, and Ronald Reagan” to the same grave as those dead idols.

    To an extent, we’re going to have to expect things to get worse before they get better.

    Fixed that for you.

    We have to expect, and even to an extent welcome, 2018 and even perhaps 2020 ending the careers of many of these dead-enders

    And when those who replace the “dead-enders” end up behaving exactly like them? What makes you think those we vote in over the “swamp Republicans” will be any less “swamp Republicans” themselves?

  159. @Citizen of a Silly Country
    Except that it's not OK to be white.

    Give me a call when a business leader or politician explicitly states that it's OK to be white. I do my own little part by teaching my kids that they should be proud of their European heritage and quietly proclaiming the same in public.

    This isn't my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.

    We're all Jews now. Act like it.

    This isn’t my country anymore. I just live here like the rest.

    We’re all Jews now. Act like it.

    I think you’d really like this guy, because it sounds like you have the same ideas as him with his “Western diaspora”.

  160. @Wilkey
    A transgender lawmaker in Virginia, a Sikh mayor in New Jersey and a refugee mayor in Montana: Were these Democratic victories a rebuke of President Trump or sign of change?

    The end result will be that more and more whites will start to identify as conservatives. Trump will be gone in 3 or 7 years. The crazies will continue to control more and more of the Democratic Party.

    Guess I’m crossing Montana off my list of possible bolt-hole states. I’m down to Wyoming and Alaska. After that I’ll need to start looking abroad.

    WTF?

    How about any of the 30 states that voted for Trump in 2016, or the other 5 or so in which a swing of only about 5% would have changed given the state to Trump? Or maybe even the other 15 states?

    This defeatism is seriously annoying. Get a job in a state you want to live in. Move there. Marry and have lots of kids. Raise them right. Live your life. Live as you believe. Work to elect politicians you agree with. And tell anyone who disagrees with you they can leave you alone or go to hell.

    My wife and I are considering moving soon. We've considered several states. How those states voted plays exactly zero role in our decision.

    The end result will be that more and more whites will start to identify as conservatives.

    And what does that accomplish?

    Get a job in a state you want to live in.

    Requires that there’s someone there willing and able to hire you.

    Marry and have lots of kids.

    Implies you can find an acceptable spouse (rarer and rarer) who’s not already taken (which reduces it even more), who also lives in that state (some have very skewed sex ratios), who is fertile, and that you can afford the various costs (land/housing, safety/security, taxes, etc.) incurred by having and raising children. And that the state won’t take them away from you for “raising them right” and “living as you believe”.

    Live as you believe

    Implies you won’t get fired/mobbed/arrested/killed for doing so.

    Work to elect politicians you agree with.

    Requires that there be such a person running (never seen a candidate I’ve agreed with my entire life), that it’s even possible for them to get elected, and that elected offices even manner anymore (hint: they don’t. All real power and decisions are made by unelected judges and bureaucrats, and our elected “officials” don’t have the power to change them.)

    And tell anyone who disagrees with you they can leave you alone or go to hell.

    And when that “anyone” includes your employer? Family Services? The cops? Or, what happens when you tell them that and they don’t leave you alone?

    In short, it’s all well and good to say people should do these things, but what about when they can’t?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Great comment. This is where life begins.

    You realize you are completely screwed. But you're somehow still alive. And you want to stay that way.
  161. @Anonymous
    An explicitly pro-white candidate is right around the corner. How do you think whites will respond?

    An explicitly pro-white candidate is right around the corner.

    Really? I don’t see it. And it won’t matter how whites respond, such a person would never be nominated by either party, and Duverger’s law means third-party or independent candidates simply cannot win. So they’d be a minor sideshow, like Merlin Miller, Tom Stevens, or Dan Vacek.

  162. @eah
    https://johndenugent.com/images/white-woman-subway-diversity-blacks-326x245.jpg

    She got a seat though .

  163. @Trelane
    Iceland may be chilly and volcanic but it is ranked as the 9th most developed country in the world. It is the seventh most productive country in the world. Iceland is energy independant. It has its own independant central bank and soverien currency. Iceland has the second highest rated quality of life in the world. Iceland has universal health care which is considered of very good quality. Icelanders have among the highest longevity of any people. Iceland has a very low Gini index--that is, a low amount of income inequality. There is almost no crime in Iceland. The total fertility rate (TFR) for women in Iceland is 2.1: the only European country that is reproductive. Phone books in iceland are alphebetized by first name. Some 98% of icelanders are under the impression that they can rely on someone they know to help them, a far higher percentage than in other industrialized countries.

    If I was an extraterrestrial alien who wanted to conquer and destroy Iceland the first thing I'd do is appoint bjork as leader. Then I'd bring in immigrants.

    I love Iceland – but, you don’t need to feel sorry for the rest of the world – DON’T bring in migrants/refugees that ultimately, can’t handle your weather...or agree with your centuries-old culture. Don’t be ridiculous.

  164. @Paco Wové

    Then I’d bring in immigrants.
     
    They're already arriving.

    Scandinavians are naive and stupid. They are no longer their grandfathers’ and grandmothers’ culture – they are just weak as crap to the PC lords of the EU…so ewwwwww.

  165. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    I think Utah will be the last state standing as far as “states rights” and lack of cities with tons of poor people/migrants – because: Mormons.

    I wish you were right. The Mormon church hired a PR company back in the late 8Os or early 90s to help us look more mainstream. It started out innocently enough with benign family value messaging. It was fine when we were just reflecting what we stood for. Then we started trying to be what the PR people told us we should be. Classic tail wagging the dog story. We started seeing lots of materials within the church featuring families of different races. Now recently, we are seeing materials featuring mixed race families (black male, white female).

    At some point when I was a teenager we started bringing in lots of Samoan and Tongan guys to play football. Everybody pretends like they are just like the rest of us Anglo Scandian founding stock. But those of us who notice see they are distinctly not part of our tribe, even if we share religious beliefs. A decent part of police services are devoted to domestic disturbances with Polynesians.

    Now if you go to Provo (BYU), you will see we are sending missionaries to Africa and bringing back the Africans to Utah for school. Great idea, surround our best marriage age females with a bunch of black guys. That will help the Mormon gene pool. Joseph Smith was an advocate for sending blacks back to Africa, but that gets swept under the rug and we are doing the precise opposite.

    I grew up as a Mormon and I love my culture and my people, but I don’t see it lasting in any recognizable form for more than a few more generations.

  166. @TheJester
    There is, I believe, another dimension to LUGs (Lesbians Until Graduation), mindful that coeds find a revoltingly small number of marriageable males in today's universities.

    When our daughter was in high school a few years ago, we got an earful about her and her friends' social lives. A recurrent theme was that so-and-so had just declared that she was a lesbian. This typically lasted about two weeks ... until a boyfriend miraculously (re)appeared.

    Could it be? Young women today are embarrassed when they cannot attract boyfriends ... someone to walk arm in arm about the school to broadcast their sexual desirability. How humiliating when you do not have one! However, in our advanced stage of social degeneration, a socially acceptable excuse is readily available. "I don't have a boyfriend because I'm a lesbian." End of discussion.

    Ok, now we know. Being heterosexual (with a boyfriend) and being a lesbian (without a boyfriend) are both equally acceptable. Right? Maybe not.

    So, when we would hear another lamentable tale about so-and-so being is a lesbian, we would reassure our daughter, "No worry, give her two weeks."

    The coeds in today's universities just need to suffer the humiliation of not being able to attract a boyfriend over a much longer period of time.

    Boyfriend/girlfriend should stop once those involved are no longer boys or girls. When my grandmother met my grandfather, she had three suitors vying for her hand.

    Exclusivity took a ring.

  167. @AndrewR
    For a non-IL resident you sure are obsessed with the compensation for public sector workers in IL

    We’ll all be picking up the tab.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    That remains to be seen. In any event, we have a lot of obscenely wealthy people in this country who could survive being taxed a lot more, so until they are taxed more I'm not going to get angry at anyone in the bottom 99% for milking the system.

    The fact that DJT has not released his tax returns should be enough for anyone with integrity and intelligence to realize he is not fit to be President.

  168. Coalition of the …

  169. @Whiskey
    Lets be realistic. We are not voting our way out of this. Demography is destiny, VA was reliably Republican no matter what the candidate and is now solidly Democrat. That is the destiny of the US. Trump has made no moves and desires to make no real moves to do anything about immigration, legal or illegal. No border wall, no deportation forces, no moves on sanctuary cities, no arrests, no showdowns, no moves on trade or punishing Apple, Microsoft, Google, etc. for their H1-B Visa use, nothing. It is only a matter for the 2018 mid-terms when Dems impeach Trump, and a Senate with panicked and GOPe Republicans convict him.

    The only question is who will win the Game of Thrones: Nancy Pelosi as Speaker again? Hillary (who seems to think so) or say Kamala Harris?

    Nope, the "Coalition of the Fringes" (really the CENTER of American and Western Life now) is very solid: White people who desperately need Self Righteous disdain on other Whites, Nice White Ladies, Gays/Lesbians/BLT-QWERTY and Non-Whites. All united in their HATE HATE HATE of White Beta Males who they just HATE HATE HATE.

    These are the people running major corporations, the media, the military, the government, the Democratic Party, the Republican Party, Christian Churches, Hollywood, universities, the school systems, etc. EVERY major and minor power center in the West.

    Nope, what is imperative is White male survival and thus White survival. All these groups HATE HATE HATE White men. Particularly those self-righteous SWPL White men who have no religion to fill their void. Moreover the need for "jobs for the trannies" and various non-Whites, etc. means as Michelle Obama observed, some White people (White men) will have to be tossed out so Wise Latinas etc. can take their place. Self-righteous fury will only increase as Good Whites engage in "Progressive Stacking" and toss Whites to the back of the bus, the classroom, job promotion etc.

    But the real issue is money and competence. Neither is in large amounts among non-Whites, the BLT-QWERTY community, Nice White Ladies, etc. This implies a giant slavery system for White men that insures the money flows in and the sewage treatment plants, power plants, and air traffic control systems run. Not to mention the military systems, procurement, supplies, and so on needed to keep White men in place as latter day helots run by the Soy-Boy Neo Spartans of flapping wrists and uptalking manners.

    THAT is worth preventing. A dominant non-White society literally cannot run without White men in figurative if not literal chains. There will be no money and competence otherwise and I guarantee you that neither Kamala Harris nor Hillary Clinton are going to allow themselves to live like Saddam in some spider-hole. Certainly their massive patronage network will not survive on Iraqi levels of prosperity and competence.

    Do the math -- a doubling of the non-White population means a halving of the opportunities and money available to the White male population. As well as personal freedom to do what they please, already Black Lives Matter is all about establishing Black male dominance over White men.

    Lets be realistic. We are not voting our way out of this.

    Indubitably.

    THAT is worth preventing.

    Yes, but is there a way to prevent it?

  170. @Trelane
    Iceland may be chilly and volcanic but it is ranked as the 9th most developed country in the world. It is the seventh most productive country in the world. Iceland is energy independant. It has its own independant central bank and soverien currency. Iceland has the second highest rated quality of life in the world. Iceland has universal health care which is considered of very good quality. Icelanders have among the highest longevity of any people. Iceland has a very low Gini index--that is, a low amount of income inequality. There is almost no crime in Iceland. The total fertility rate (TFR) for women in Iceland is 2.1: the only European country that is reproductive. Phone books in iceland are alphebetized by first name. Some 98% of icelanders are under the impression that they can rely on someone they know to help them, a far higher percentage than in other industrialized countries.

    If I was an extraterrestrial alien who wanted to conquer and destroy Iceland the first thing I'd do is appoint bjork as leader. Then I'd bring in immigrants.

    Phone books in iceland are alphebetized by first name.

    That’s because Icelanders don’t have surnames, just patronymics. For example, Björk is Björk Guðmundsdóttir, because her father is Guðmundur Gunnarsson (meaning his father’s name was Gunnar).

  171. @Realist
    When will enough whites quit accepting their diminution to actually do something about it? I never knew what spineless, sniveling cowards many whites are.

    When will enough whites quit accepting their diminution to actually do something about it?

    Perhaps when there’s actually something to do about it? Because from where this white guy is sitting, it looks like there’s simply nothing to be done about our diminution, as you put it. It’s unstoppable and inevitable, we’re totally doomed. There is no hope, there is no hope, there is no hope. All is lost.

    • Replies: @Realist
    It's good to see you're taking it seriously.
    , @dc.sunsets
    Sorry to see you've given up.

    No trend lasts forever. Trends change when they appear most likely to continue. The trend of the last 50, 150 and 500 years appears to be ripe for trend change. That might not usher in Nirvana (Utopia is not an option) but it does promise opportunity within the chaos of change.
  172. @eah
    Also (at)FPD72

    Thanks for the correction -- both of you are correct about the upcoming bill -- but as the article makes clear, public employee pensions are very likely next:

    And now that the machinery for pension bailouts is finally in motion, we look forward to the next, and possibly final, tear in the American social fabric, that between workers who can't wait to retire to the generous pension promises...

    There is a link to this article (among others on the ZH site):

    Why Illinois Is In Trouble - 63,000 Public Employees With $100,000+ Salaries Cost Taxpayers $10 Billion

    I find this subject interesting because I believe that when the shit hits the fan it will dwarf sub-prime.

    As I said the problem is much bigger than IL — but re salary and benefits (incl pensions) for public employees, here is an example what taxpayers got and are getting for their money:

    Chicago teachers’ test scores worse than Illinois students

    The Chicago Public Schools teachers’ union agreed Tuesday to end the strike and accept some of Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s reforms in exchange for pay increases that would bring the average teacher’s salary to $100,000 a year…Reforms include holding teachers partly accountable for their students standardized test scores…But according to a 2008 study by Illinois Education Research Council, CPS teachers don’t perform much better on standardized tests than their own students.

    The Chicago education system is little more than a money laundering operation facilitated by corrupt politicians who buy the votes of public unions:

    11 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CHICAGO TEACHER PENSIONS

    2. Teacher pension contributions are out of sync with payouts. The average career teacher currently receives an annual pension of $73,350 and will receive a lifetime payout of over $2 million…8. Chicago teacher salaries ramp up quickly…This salary growth has made Chicago’s teachers the highest paid in the nation when compared with teachers in the U.S.’ 10 largest school districts.

  173. @celt darnell
    OK, who gave this inhabitant of Idiocracy a time machine to travel back here to harass us?

    I think it was the UN:

  174. @Kevin C.

    When will enough whites quit accepting their diminution to actually do something about it?
     
    Perhaps when there's actually something to do about it? Because from where this white guy is sitting, it looks like there's simply nothing to be done about our diminution, as you put it. It's unstoppable and inevitable, we're totally doomed. There is no hope, there is no hope, there is no hope. All is lost.

    It’s good to see you’re taking it seriously.

    • Replies: @Kevin C.
    Thank you for the positive response. This is usually where I get called a paid agent of Israel and/or China, compared to Grima Wormtongue, or hectored that "despair is a sin."
  175. @Ragno
    I agree, and that is maybe the only silver lining here.

    Trumo's overwhelming problem is that he does not have, and is probably incapable of designing, a Trump philosophy with which to build a movement and - most important - groom Congressional adjutants and successors.

    But the worst thing he could have done, in my estimation, is to dump Bannon (at least for public consumption) and replace him with Kushner. Last November, many people voted for Trump for many reasons, not all of them related to him - a lot of people, for instance, were crossing their fingers if not holding their noses and voting against Hillary. Many voted for the promise of having a Bannon among the WH brain trust after an eternity of hollow men in dark suits.

    Nobody voted for Kushner.

    I do not view Tuesday as an asymptonatic speed bump, although the treachery and incompetence of vast portions of the GOP made it inevitable, and even a good thing. But let's for God's sake have a lot more Bannon, even in shadow, and a lot less Jared and Ivanka these next two years. We didn't give him the damn job just so he could go one-up on Dubya as a Bibi buddy.

    Bannon is running the anti neverTrumpers campaign, he can’t do that from the White House, Trump needs deniability.

    I see Kelly’s hard-line on immigration is causing the DHS woman to step down, Kelly wants the Hondurans gone.

  176. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Charles Erwin Wilson

    After that I’ll need to start looking abroad.
     
    Yes, because there are lots of places that will take you in 'over there' and you will be safe because they will respect the rule of law. Oh, but then they will take your money. And, oh, but then they will take your life. And then you will realize that they don't care about the rule of law, or justice, or equal treatment. And, BTW, it is really hard to recover from being dead.

    Or maybe you could put your shoulder to the wheel here, and help the rest of us turn our ship-of-state around?

    If you are paying attention, then you ought to have the gallows in sight. If so, then, as a consequence, your mind ought to be focused.

    There is nowhere else to go. Cowboy up, or willingly consign yourself to the Gulag.

    Make no mistake, the Gulag is what the Left (Democrats, and Republican whores), have in mind.

    There is nowhere else to go. Cowboy up, or willingly consign yourself to the Gulag.

    Make no mistake, the Gulag is what the Left (Democrats, and Republican whores), have in mind.

    You’re right on the money; problem is all those a-holes in the middle won’t do anything to help. It’s only when they are getting rounded up will it finally dawn on them that we were right about the threat the left is.

    But then it will be too late….

  177. @Desiderius
    We'll all be picking up the tab.

    That remains to be seen. In any event, we have a lot of obscenely wealthy people in this country who could survive being taxed a lot more, so until they are taxed more I’m not going to get angry at anyone in the bottom 99% for milking the system.

    The fact that DJT has not released his tax returns should be enough for anyone with integrity and intelligence to realize he is not fit to be President.

    • Replies: @Desiderius

    a lot
     
    cite needed.

    I see that math is not your strong suit.
    , @Disordered
    Who told you civil servants were in the 99%?
    The wealthy may be the dogs, but the bureaucrats are the pigs who rule it all.

    As for the redistributionism, I agree unless it slows production - which happens with most taxes and entitlements, they are terribly unfocused.

    As for Trump, the new tax plan is just okay... and no, I don't care about his personal taxes, perhaps because I expect the Presidency to be the Chief Executive branch first and foremost. If we had to elect unblemished saints from among our political class, who could we possibly pick?
  178. @AndrewR
    For a non-IL resident you sure are obsessed with the compensation for public sector workers in IL

    To paraphrase the old saw, you may not be interested in Illinois public employee pensions, but Illinois public employee pensions are interested in you!

    Not really you, though, just your money.

  179. @AndrewR
    For a non-IL resident you sure are obsessed with the compensation for public sector workers in IL

    You might not be interested in failing state government retirement funds, but failing state government retirement funds are interested in you (or at least your federal tax dollars to bail them out).

    Oops Brutusale, I didn’t see your comment until I had posted mine.

  180. @AndrewR
    That remains to be seen. In any event, we have a lot of obscenely wealthy people in this country who could survive being taxed a lot more, so until they are taxed more I'm not going to get angry at anyone in the bottom 99% for milking the system.

    The fact that DJT has not released his tax returns should be enough for anyone with integrity and intelligence to realize he is not fit to be President.

    a lot

    cite needed.

    I see that math is not your strong suit.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    Whatever, you gullible serf.
  181. @Desiderius

    a lot
     
    cite needed.

    I see that math is not your strong suit.

    Whatever, you gullible serf.

  182. @Alec Leamas

    The anti-LGBT stuff I see here is a big turn off. I’m a mom now, but I was a ‘lesbian until graduation.’ I’ll never repudiate that part of me.

    * * *

    The Abrahamic religions belong in the dustbin of history.
     
    Aren't you a data point that stands as evidence that homosexual identity theory is bunkum? You weren't a "lesbian" in college, you engaged in homosexual behavior on a circumstantial basis and within the context of a fairly historically unique environment. A residential college experience where thousands of 18-21 year olds congregate away from the communities in which they were nurtured and in which they can construct entirely novel identities is not a common or natural thing. Did you also gravitate towards Women's Studies and feminist theory before or concurrent with your "lesbian" identity (reference to the Abrahamic religions is a dead giveaway of some radfem indoctrination)? Once you progressed out of that unusual environment and context you reverted back to the norm. You clearly no longer "identify" as a lesbian. That's because you never were one - no one is or has been.

    You weren't stoned to death in the town square? Then your complaint about Abrahamic religions is a bit of weak tea. You also stand as evidence that people can and do change their behavior and reform it - which is sort of the point of Christianity.

    Not to mention, said Christianity has some slight points in her favor (do not judge lest ye be judged, let him cast the first stone, etc) that seeped into the Enlightenment… compare that to the other Abrahamic religions, one small and wealthy but racially exclusive, and the other getting more converts in the West than anyone right now, which would stone her on sight…

    Agreed completely. That said, I believe some LGBTQwhatever will never be normies, and therefore it is up to God to judge them properly. If they take care of some kids while only having one partner and staying away from disease and decadence and id politics, then they can be tolerable. But of course, most believe in the rainbow flag fantasy (and building up special interests by adding more letters), more than in their nation or Western culture.

  183. @AndrewR
    That remains to be seen. In any event, we have a lot of obscenely wealthy people in this country who could survive being taxed a lot more, so until they are taxed more I'm not going to get angry at anyone in the bottom 99% for milking the system.

    The fact that DJT has not released his tax returns should be enough for anyone with integrity and intelligence to realize he is not fit to be President.

    Who told you civil servants were in the 99%?
    The wealthy may be the dogs, but the bureaucrats are the pigs who rule it all.

    As for the redistributionism, I agree unless it slows production – which happens with most taxes and entitlements, they are terribly unfocused.

    As for Trump, the new tax plan is just okay… and no, I don’t care about his personal taxes, perhaps because I expect the Presidency to be the Chief Executive branch first and foremost. If we had to elect unblemished saints from among our political class, who could we possibly pick?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    I doubt our ideal leader is currently part of the political class.
  184. @Disordered
    Who told you civil servants were in the 99%?
    The wealthy may be the dogs, but the bureaucrats are the pigs who rule it all.

    As for the redistributionism, I agree unless it slows production - which happens with most taxes and entitlements, they are terribly unfocused.

    As for Trump, the new tax plan is just okay... and no, I don't care about his personal taxes, perhaps because I expect the Presidency to be the Chief Executive branch first and foremost. If we had to elect unblemished saints from among our political class, who could we possibly pick?

    I doubt our ideal leader is currently part of the political class.

  185. @eah
    As I said the problem is much bigger than IL -- but re salary and benefits (incl pensions) for public employees, here is an example what taxpayers got and are getting for their money:

    Chicago teachers’ test scores worse than Illinois students

    The Chicago Public Schools teachers’ union agreed Tuesday to end the strike and accept some of Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s reforms in exchange for pay increases that would bring the average teacher’s salary to $100,000 a year...Reforms include holding teachers partly accountable for their students standardized test scores...But according to a 2008 study by Illinois Education Research Council, CPS teachers don’t perform much better on standardized tests than their own students.

    The Chicago education system is little more than a money laundering operation facilitated by corrupt politicians who buy the votes of public unions:

    11 THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT CHICAGO TEACHER PENSIONS

    2. Teacher pension contributions are out of sync with payouts. The average career teacher currently receives an annual pension of $73,350 and will receive a lifetime payout of over $2 million...8. Chicago teacher salaries ramp up quickly...This salary growth has made Chicago’s teachers the highest paid in the nation when compared with teachers in the U.S.’ 10 largest school districts.
  186. @Kevin C.

    The end result will be that more and more whites will start to identify as conservatives.
     
    And what does that accomplish?

    Get a job in a state you want to live in.
     
    Requires that there's someone there willing and able to hire you.

    Marry and have lots of kids.
     
    Implies you can find an acceptable spouse (rarer and rarer) who's not already taken (which reduces it even more), who also lives in that state (some have very skewed sex ratios), who is fertile, and that you can afford the various costs (land/housing, safety/security, taxes, etc.) incurred by having and raising children. And that the state won't take them away from you for "raising them right" and "living as you believe".

    Live as you believe
     
    Implies you won't get fired/mobbed/arrested/killed for doing so.

    Work to elect politicians you agree with.
     
    Requires that there be such a person running (never seen a candidate I've agreed with my entire life), that it's even possible for them to get elected, and that elected offices even manner anymore (hint: they don't. All real power and decisions are made by unelected judges and bureaucrats, and our elected "officials" don't have the power to change them.)

    And tell anyone who disagrees with you they can leave you alone or go to hell.
     
    And when that "anyone" includes your employer? Family Services? The cops? Or, what happens when you tell them that and they don't leave you alone?

    In short, it's all well and good to say people should do these things, but what about when they can't?

    Great comment. This is where life begins.

    You realize you are completely screwed. But you’re somehow still alive. And you want to stay that way.

  187. @eah
    OT

    Another kind of coalition:

    Pension Bailout Bill To Be Introduced This Week

    According to Pensions and Investments magazine, Democratic Senator Sherrod Brown from Ohio plans to introduce legislation that would allow struggling multiemployer pension funds to borrow from the U.S. Treasury to remain solvent...The bill, which is co-sponsored by another Democrat, Rep. Tim Ryan, also of Ohio, could be introduced as soon as this week or shortly after. It would create a new office within the Treasury Department called the Pension Rehabilitation Administration. The funds would come from the sale of Treasury-issued bonds to financial institutions. The pension funds could borrow for 30 years at low interest rates. The one, and painfully amusing, restriction for borrowers is "they could not make risky investments", which of course will be promptly circumvented in hopes of generating outsized returns and repaying the Treasury's "bailout" loan, ultimately leading to massive losses on what is effectively a taxpayer-funded pension bailout.

    A conspiracy coalition of corrupt, greedy public officials and employee unions has for decades fleeced taxpayers with unaffordably generous and therefore chronically and hopelessly underfunded pay, benefit, and pension schemes -- they will now try to widen the net of those responsible for the costs to include future generations of federal taxpayers.

    A conspiracy coalition of corrupt, greedy public officials and employee unions has for decades fleeced taxpayers with unaffordably generous and therefore chronically and hopelessly underfunded pay, benefit, and pension schemes


    Who, exactly, was fleeced?

    Emphasis on “was.” If the pensions were to be paid out as promised, yes—absolutely it will be taxpayers. If, however, we admit that what can’t be paid won’t be paid, I’d say it was the employees for whom their pension was nothing less than deferred compensation.

    BTW, of course the plan is to let Uncle Sam put other people’s bills on his Mastercard. The entire assumption is that Uncle’s card has NO CREDIT LIMIT, and that if getting to $20 trillion in IOU’s didn’t break the entire monetary, economic and political system, neither will $40 trillion nor $400 trillion. After all, it’s just numbers.

  188. @Kevin C.

    When will enough whites quit accepting their diminution to actually do something about it?
     
    Perhaps when there's actually something to do about it? Because from where this white guy is sitting, it looks like there's simply nothing to be done about our diminution, as you put it. It's unstoppable and inevitable, we're totally doomed. There is no hope, there is no hope, there is no hope. All is lost.

    Sorry to see you’ve given up.

    No trend lasts forever. Trends change when they appear most likely to continue. The trend of the last 50, 150 and 500 years appears to be ripe for trend change. That might not usher in Nirvana (Utopia is not an option) but it does promise opportunity within the chaos of change.

    • Replies: @Kevin C.

    No trend lasts forever.
     
    What about the trend to increasing total entropy? That one looks to be permanent and universal; thus is it named the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

    The trend of the last 50, 150 and 500 years appears to be ripe for trend change.
     
    Really? I don't see it.
  189. @dc.sunsets
    Sorry to see you've given up.

    No trend lasts forever. Trends change when they appear most likely to continue. The trend of the last 50, 150 and 500 years appears to be ripe for trend change. That might not usher in Nirvana (Utopia is not an option) but it does promise opportunity within the chaos of change.

    No trend lasts forever.

    What about the trend to increasing total entropy? That one looks to be permanent and universal; thus is it named the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

    The trend of the last 50, 150 and 500 years appears to be ripe for trend change.

    Really? I don’t see it.

  190. @Realist
    It's good to see you're taking it seriously.

    Thank you for the positive response. This is usually where I get called a paid agent of Israel and/or China, compared to Grima Wormtongue, or hectored that “despair is a sin.”

  191. @Buffalo Joe
    Lagertha, ...."mean jerk,"a knife to the heart.

    “Mean jerk” is too harsh. It makes you sound like Weinstein.

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