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From August 7 in the New York Times news section, a heavily splashed article:

Killings of 4 Men in Albuquerque Leave Muslim Community in Fear

As the authorities appeal to the public for help in their investigation, many Muslim residents are experiencing a “managed panic.”

By Neelam Bohra and Vimal Patel
Aug. 7, 2022

Muhammad Imtiaz Hussain is afraid to step outside his home in Albuquerque to water his plants. Or retrieve books from his car. Or even venture out onto his balcony.

“My kids won’t let me go outside of my apartment,” said Mr. Hussain, 41, whose younger brother Muhammad Afzaal Hussain, 27, was fatally shot a week ago Monday just a few blocks away. He was one of four Muslim men who were killed recently in the city — three in the past two weeks — and authorities believe the deaths are connected and meant to target the Muslim community.

The latest victim, a Muslim man in his mid-20s from South Asia whose name has not been released by the police, was killed on Friday just before midnight. Another man, Aftab Hussein, 41, was fatally shot on July 26. Authorities say that the killings of all three might be connected to the November 2021 killing of Mohammad Ahmadi, 62, outside a business he and his brother ran.

As the Albuquerque Police, the F.B.I. and the State Police appealed to the public for help in finding the killer or killers — on Sunday authorities described a vehicle of interest, a dark-colored, four-door Volkswagen sedan — the attacks have left Muslims in a state of terror.

One member who attended the Islamic Center of New Mexico, the same mosque as all four of the victims, said that he may never return, citing a fear of becoming “bait.”

Other members have temporarily left the state to stay with family members in other parts of the country to wait out the investigation. One man, who immigrated from Iraq, said that he felt safer back when he first came to the country in the 1980s. Another member, Salem Ansari, said that some who attend the mosque and work night shifts have quit their jobs.

“This situation is getting so much worse,” Mr. Ansari said.

… “Now, I look outside the window and think, ‘Oh, this is the place where my brother was killed. Should we move?’” he said.

… In general, anti-Muslim hate crimes in the United States have been trending downward. Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism, said that the number of hate crimes reported against Muslims was lower in 2020 than in any year since 9/11, though he added that those numbers may be skewed because of pandemic restrictions.

But he said that hate crimes remain a concern: They rose more than 20 percent in 2021 and increased another 4.7 percent in the first half of 2022, the center reported. Also, “underlying anti-Muslim attitudes” are pervasive and resurface during times of national hardship, according to Professor Levin’s studies.

The authorities said that they are refraining from using the term “hate” in labeling the crimes until a motive could be established.

Just last year, the Islamic Center faced an attempted arson from a woman who the police say set three fires on the mosque playground and one fire at the mosque’s main entry. No one was injured, and the woman was arrested and charged with arson. The case is pending.

The Islamic Center has instructed its nearly 2,500 members to stay home as much as they can, use the “buddy system” when going out and refrain from “engaging with or agitating” anyone, Mr. Assed said.

He added that he still felt supported by other communities but that this time he also was feeling a sense of “hopelessness and despair.”

… “My 5-year-old keeps asking, ‘Hey, where is my uncle?’” he said. “She’ll see me crying and say, ‘Are you a crybaby? Why are you crying?’ But we can’t tell her. Not yet.”

Neelam Bohra is the 2022-2023 disability reporting fellow for the National desk. @neelambohratx

And from the New York Times news section today:

Albuquerque Police Detain Suspect in Killings of Muslim Men

The shootings of four Muslim men since November may be connected, the police have said, raising fears in a place where many immigrants and refugees had felt at home.

So, they finally caught the MAGA redneck terrorist who was killing Muslims for being diverse!

By Simon Romero, Neelam Bohra, Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs and Ava Sasani
Aug. 9, 2022
Updated 7:52 p.m. ET

ALBUQUERQUE — For days, the news that someone might be killing Muslim men in Albuquerque spread fear among the city’s Muslim residents, some of whom were so afraid of becoming the next target that they fled town or hunkered down in their homes.

On Tuesday, the police said they had arrested a man who was himself Muslim and who may have targeted at least two of the victims because he was angry that his daughter had married a man from the other major branch of Islam.

Huh? Where’d that come from?

The police said the man, Muhammad Syed, 51, would be charged in two of the killings and that he was a suspect in the other two deaths.

Ahmad Assed, the president of the Islamic Center of New Mexico, a mosque that at least three of the victims had attended, said the authorities told him that the suspect was a Sunni Muslim, and may have targeted the victims because he was angry over his daughter marrying a Shiite Muslim.

And then the article wanders off with the four reporters trying to repurpose their notes from their intended Pulitzer Prize-winning expose “The Dark Heart of Hate Stalks Muslims Even in Albuquerque.”

… The report of an interpersonal conflict that could be linked to a sectarian dispute raised the specter of the kind of violence that many immigrants from conflict-ridden countries had hoped to leave behind.

… For years, the authorities in Albuquerque had sought to shape the city into a haven for immigrants. Hundreds of refugees from Afghanistan have settled in the city over the past year, since the withdrawal of the U.S. military in that country.

The latest killings come as Albuquerque has been upended by a harrowing spike in gun violence, with the city on pace to see more murders this year than any other on record. …

Mr. Assed, who was born in Dearborn, Mich., said that even with increasing xenophobia after the Sept. 11 attacks, Albuquerque seemed to continue to treat the Muslim community with respect, regardless of faith and nationalities.

Now many Muslims in the city feel like targets, and fear is even driving some people to make plans to leave New Mexico.

Indeed, the killings have jolted an increasingly diverse city, where immigration, largely from Mexico and other Latin American countries, is a major source of population growth and integral to the city’s history. Immigrants from the Middle East, including Muslims and Christians from Lebanon and Syria, put down stakes in Albuquerque and other parts of New Mexico in the late 19th century.

… During the Trump administration, when concerns grew over bigotry directed against Muslims, officials passed a bill affirming Albuquerque’s status as an “immigrant friendly” city. It restricted federal immigration agents from entering city-operated facilities and city employees from collecting immigration status information.

At least 300 Afghan refugees have arrived in Albuquerque over the past year, bolstering a growing community reflected today by at least eight different places of worship for Muslims. Albuquerque strengthened outreach efforts through translators speaking Arabic, Dari, Farsi, Urdu and Pashto — languages that officials have prioritized in recent days when sharing information about the killings.

Although Muslims in the United States faced violence and discrimination after Sept. 11 and during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign, the apparent serial nature of the attacks in Albuquerque — and the stubborn mystery of who is responsible — is uniquely disconcerting, said Sumayyah Waheed, senior policy counsel at Muslim Advocates, a civil rights group.

In contrast, there’s the Daily Mail’s rather more informative headline:

PICTURED: Afghan man arrested on suspicion of murdering four fellow Muslims in Albuquerque ‘in a fury after his Sunni daughter married a Shiite man’: Muhammad Syed, 51, had previously faced domestic violence allegations

Here’s the President’s tweet two days ago:

Just like we have a National Transportation Safety Board to review airliner crashes (which we don’t have many of anymore), we should have a National Immigration Safety Board to review each immigrant who commits murder and why he was let into the country.

This story reminds me of a local story that for about 8 hours looked like it was going to be the biggest news in the country that week, but then vanished.

The first reports were that two Jewish men had been shot in a Valley Village synagogue.

Anti-semitic mass shooting in a synagogue!

But then … nothing. Eventually, the facts came out in the backpages.

The two men weren’t exactly shot in the synagogue, but in the synagogue’s parking garage.

At 4 AM.

And both were shot in the knee.

At close range.

And neither victim could remember who shot them or why they were in the parking garage at 4 AM.

 
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  1. Prince Bandar “Bush” bin Sultan said to Sir Richard “MI6” Dearlove:

    ‘God help the Shia’. More than a billion Sunnis have simply had enough of them.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @smetana

    Yeah, as soon as I saw it, I thought, "An angry white guy would shoot up a mosque or something. Picking them off one by one? This is an honor killing."

    Ding!

  2. “The two men weren’t exactly shot in the synagogue, but in the synagogue’s parking garage.

    At 4 AM.

    And both were shot in the knee.

    At close range.

    And neither could remember who shot them.”

    Kvetches get steches.

  3. The media did the same trick with some Muslim who murdered his daughters over having non-Muslim boyfriends. The headlines blare “Texas man” as though he is some white redneck but is actually an immigrant from Egypt.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @slumber_j
    @anonymouseperson


    The headlines blare “Texas man” as though he is some white redneck but is actually an immigrant from Egypt.
     
    Yeah, you get a lot of this.

    From Steve Sailer's original post:

    And then the article wanders off with the four reporters trying to repurpose their notes from their intended Pulitzer Prize-winning expose “The Dark Heart of Hate Stalks Muslims Even in Albuquerque.”
     
    Judging from the NYT's (still) Pulitzer-winning work on Russian Collusion, I don't see the new developments in this case as much of an obstacle to victory.
  4. Anon[146] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: They’re already prosecuting women for getting abortions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/08/08/facebook-abortion-teen-dms

    Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. They don’t care. They’re willing to run the Republican party into the ground in pursuit of their virtue-signaling. We need to make a clear, unequivocal break from these people, or else we’re going to have 4 more years of Joe Biden.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @Anon

    If Republicans or conservatives lose because people want to abort their babies conceived after engaging in reckless, casual sex, so be it. The country is too far gone to be saved anyway.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon

    , @Adamant
    @Anon

    Nope.

    She's not being charged for having an abortion, one that was already illegal in April when this happened, she's charged with burning the body. Her mother is charged with performing the illegal abortion. Nebraska has a 20 week limit. She was 24 weeks along.

    But facts are pesky things. Better to just lie.

    Replies: @Anon

    , @James B. Shearer
    @Anon

    "... They’re already prosecuting women for getting abortions:

    This prosecution was initiated before the Dobbs decision as the abortion in question was at 28 weeks and was not protected under Roe v. Wade.

    "Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. .."

    Banning dangerous self-induced abortions at 28 weeks isn't actually politically unpopular.

  5. LOL saw this coming two days ago.

    • Replies: @Franz
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    Agree.

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Hannah Katz
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Now the left expects us to protect the Moslems from... themselves.

  6. If deadly immigrant blood feuds were a stock, I’d be backing up the truck right now. In any case it’s a small price to pay for authentic Pashtun cuisine.

    • Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia
    @Bragadocious

    Any recommendations for Pashtun eateries in Albuquerque?

    Next time I swing by I'll be sure to give a Yelp review.

  7. This whole situation in Albuquerque is easily fixed:

    ctrl-r “Muslim” with “Shiite Moslem”.
    ctrl-r “Hate-filled Americans” with “Sunni Moslems”.
    ctrl-r “Radical Imam” with “New Mexico man”.

    Fixing the article, that is. Fixing the USA, no, we’re fucked …

    I warned them about conflict importation when they were importing roughly equal numbers of Iranians and Iraqis into Sweden. It always seems like a great idea on paper …

  8. the police said they had arrested a man who was himself Muslim and who may have targeted at least two of the victims because he was angry that his daughter had married a man from the other major branch of Islam.

    Huh? Where’d that come from?

    From the last fourteen centuries of Muslim history. It’s just too bad that the self-appointed multiculturalists in charge of everything didn’t know enough about multiple cultures to see that one coming! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845

    Well, on the bright side, just because the all these Muslims are in an alien land doesn’t mean they must forego all their colorful traditions, such as homicidal sectarian strife. Like when I’m abroad, I appreciate the occasional Marlboro or Big Mac.

    But is there any bright side of Muslim immigration for those us of already in the US? Well, they seem to have better aim than our native blacks: 4 targets, 0 bystanders. Hey, maybe that trillion dollars of US military training of Afghans wasn’t a total waste after all!

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Barbarossa
    @Almost Missouri

    Good one!

    My wife really enjoyed this comment when I read it to her. She was laughing uncontrollably!

    'Cause you know what they say, "The family that reads Unz comments together stays together."

    Or something like that...

  9. One man, who immigrated from Iraq, said that he felt safer back when he first came to the country in the 1980s.

    I guess that gives us a timeline on how long nice things last once the new guy shows up.

    • Agree: duncsbaby
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @bomag


    From the last fourteen centuries of Muslim history. It’s just too bad that the self-appointed multiculturalists in charge of everything didn’t know enough about multiple cultures to see that one coming! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845
     
    I doubt that when GW Bush invaded Iraq, that GW knew the diff between Shiite vs Sunni, the wars that have only been going on for 14 centuries. I know I didn't. So basically we invaded Iraq for nothing. Our end result was turning a Sunni ruled nation into Shiite ruled, aligned with Shiite Iran.

    Let you and him fight applies to these clowns of Allah. When battling each other, they are not fighting the infidel.

    Replies: @Nachum

  10. As soon as I saw the perp was driving a sedan, I knew it was Muslim on Muslim crime. No self-respecting white male hater of foreigners would drive anything other than a truck (or maybe a Jeep) in that part of the country.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Unintended Consequence

    Also, don't forget the Confederate flag.

    , @J1234
    @Unintended Consequence

    I thought the same thing when I read that it was a VW Jetta with tinted windows that the cops wanted to locate. If I had to guess, I'd say that the ethnicity that whites who drive tinted window Jettas hate most is their own. Like a lot of other things, cars can figure into the profile and personality type of people. How could the New York Times be so clueless about this?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  11. During the Trump administration, when concerns grew over bigotry directed against Muslims

    I guess “concerns grew” in the minds of people who take seriously the lies pumped out by this dreadful propaganda rag. Is there any statistical evidence to support such fears? Or were such fears irrational?

    Although Muslims in the United States faced violence and discrimination after Sept. 11 and during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign

    They’re such lairs. And they lie, non-stop, in the furtherance of anti-white bigotry, discrimination, and to justify unequal treatment of white people under the law.

    • Agree: West reanimator
    • Thanks: HammerJack
  12. … The report of an interpersonal conflict that could be linked to a sectarian dispute raised the specter of the kind of violence that many immigrants from conflict-ridden countries had hoped to leave behind.

    In other words, Muslims hate each other far more than whites hate them. Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don’t hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Rob McX


    Now many Muslims in the city feel like targets, and fear is even driving some people to make plans to leave New Mexico.
     
    Reached for comment, one of the migrants said, "Albuquerque no good! Too many migrants!"

    At least, I think he said Albuquerque.
    Might have been America.
    , @Nachum
    @Rob McX

    When the Yugoslavian wars broke out in the early 90's, the Serbian and Croatian communities in Queens had a soccer game against each other.

    I think the Indians and Pakistanis in Queens play cricket, but then they do that on the Subcontinent too.

    There's a line in the book World War Z that goes something like, "We all expected the nuclear exchange to be between India and Pakistan, so it took us by surprise when it ended up being between Pakistan and Iran."

    I remember when some expat Israelis were harassing a Palestinian falafel store owner in L.A., the Jewish Defense League (which basically was reduced to the L.A. chapter by then) came to the defense of...the Arab. To be fair, a part of their expressed logic was, "Hey, we want Palestinians to feel comfortable...in Southern California." Which is still foolish, but "foolish" and "Jewish" go hand-in-hand here.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Mark G.
    @Rob McX


    Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don’t hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.
     
    My Congressional representative here in Indiana, Victoria Spartz, was born in the Ukraine and is an ardent advocate of dragging the U.S. into the Russia-Ukraine conflict on the side of the Ukrainians. Her support was welcomed by the Ukrainian government, the Biden administration, and the neocons here in the U.S. That is, until she said the Ukrainian government needs to be less corrupt whereupon they accused her of being "pro-Russian".

    Americans have traditionally believed in individual rights more than the people in most countries on the planet and in a government that protects those individual rights rather than a government that is designed to benefit certain ethnic or religious groups. If you come here, you have to pick whether you are going to bring your ancient ethnic or religious grudges with you or are going to see others here as your fellow Americans who should be treated fairly. If you pick the second, you will eventually notice the pointless unending feuds, corruption and authoritarianism in most countries on this planet, including your old homeland. My Congressional representative has become at least somewhat Americanized so is unable to engage in uncritical support of the country she was born in.
  13. @The Anti-Gnostic
    LOL saw this coming two days ago.

    Replies: @Franz, @Hannah Katz

    LOL saw this coming two days ago.

    Agree.

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians…

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become “Americans”. Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Franz


    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them.
     
    Weren’t East Side New Yorkers mostly Irish themselves?

    Replies: @Nachum

    , @Hibernian
    @Franz


    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers.
     
    Irish Protestant / Irish Catholic conflict in NYC was a brief mid 19th century phenomenon which ended when the Catholics far outnumbered the Protestants. Bill the Butcher makes a good story but he's a very small part of the story of NYC.

    Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.
     
    My Dad was 50% Polish, 25 % French Canadian, and 25% Irish. He was born in 1930 and his oldest sister was born in 1920. The pot's been melting for quite a long time.
    , @Chris Mallory
    @Franz


    Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.
     
    That you use "Irish" and "Polish" instead of "American" means that the "melting pot" is nothing but a myth. No, they are not Americans and never will be.

    Replies: @Rocko

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Franz


    Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy.
     
    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0431/5702/9021/products/b542bdb132cdddb4e6def8c457f9a892_1024x1024.jpg?v=1614829207

    https://i.pinimg.com/236x/ba/b4/f8/bab4f802c6e1456c40feab79082bb647--irish-pride-jeanne.jpg

  14. This story reminds me of a local police blotter item that for about 8 hours looked like it was going to be the biggest story in the country that week, but then vanished.

    There was another such case in Ireland in May of this year, just before Pride Month. Two homosexual men were murdered and another left with permanent injuries in separate attacks. The killer used the Grindr app to lure the victims. This was shaping up to be a hate crime that would make headlines around the world. At least one of the two men killed was also beheaded.

    But when an arrest was made, everything suddenly went quiet. You can probably guess why.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Rob McX

    I remember for a few days Irish media was bemoaning the deadly legacy of Catholicism and blah blah blah.

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    That detective looks so *disappointed*! Translation mine:

    If he's Woke: "I wish it had been a white guy."

    If he's not: "Damn, there goes that commendation."

    Replies: @Rob McX, @AnotherDad

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Rob McX

    The tell was "beheaded". Muslims love that sh*t. Koran's full of it. Too bloody for squeamish Christians, though.

    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case. Recall how the Muslim-on-gay Pulse nightclub shooting was repurposed from yet another run-of-the-mill Muslim mass murder into the Terror of Violent Homophobia. Which itself was just a rerun of the routine drug-deal-gone-wrong killing of Matthew Shepherd into the Martyrdom of Saint Matthew basis for a thousand hate crime laws. C'mon ya lazy Irish scribblers, your American cousins have a well-worn playbook for these kinds of situations!

    Replies: @Rob McX

    , @Anon
    @Rob McX

    The ruling class is always disappointed when they can't blame the white man.

  15. @Almost Missouri


    the police said they had arrested a man who was himself Muslim and who may have targeted at least two of the victims because he was angry that his daughter had married a man from the other major branch of Islam.
     
    Huh? Where’d that come from?
     
    From the last fourteen centuries of Muslim history. It's just too bad that the self-appointed multiculturalists in charge of everything didn't know enough about multiple cultures to see that one coming! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845

    Well, on the bright side, just because the all these Muslims are in an alien land doesn't mean they must forego all their colorful traditions, such as homicidal sectarian strife. Like when I'm abroad, I appreciate the occasional Marlboro or Big Mac.

    But is there any bright side of Muslim immigration for those us of already in the US? Well, they seem to have better aim than our native blacks: 4 targets, 0 bystanders. Hey, maybe that trillion dollars of US military training of Afghans wasn't a total waste after all!

    Replies: @Barbarossa

    Good one!

    My wife really enjoyed this comment when I read it to her. She was laughing uncontrollably!

    ‘Cause you know what they say, “The family that reads Unz comments together stays together.”

    Or something like that…

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  16. Your link to the second article is wrong. It should be Albuquerque Police Detain Suspect in Killings of Muslim Men.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @jb

    Thanks.

  17. Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,……………..

    Levin is not only the director of the “Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism”, he is it’s only member according to its’ website. The “Our People” tab lists only his name.

    Can one guy be a “Center for Something”.

    Maybe Steve should be a Center too.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Mr. Anon


    Can one guy be a “Center for Something”.
     
    One guy can certainly be a purveyor of hate and extremism.
    , @Almost Missouri
    @Mr. Anon

    If my understanding of the latest permutations of things academia-ic is correct, a "Center" means that someone gave some money (not necessarily their own) for something (not necessarily the thing that the Center actually does). The university will staff that "Center" with as many faculty as it takes to soak up the funding while they carry on whatever it is they would do anyway. Note that a single faculty member can easily soak up seven figures or more of funding.

    Also note that no person of goodwill and healthy inclinations should under any circumstances donate any money to any mainstream academia. No matter how conservative, normal and pure your intentions, your money will be repurposed to advance the Woke Borg. And they say that alchemy died after the Middle Ages...

    This article describes some examples:

    https://www.cspicenter.com/p/41-lessons-from-the-frontlines-of#details

    (The "C" in "CSPI" does stand for "Center". While ironic, in this case it is not an academic scam.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Recently Based

    , @Veteran Aryan
    @Mr. Anon

    What are the odds...
    https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/news/PublishingImages/racism-covid/Brian-Levin.jpg

    Replies: @AnotherDad

  18. As I started the article I am thinking, when will Dearbornistan make its appearance? “Mr. Assed, who was born in Dearborn, Mich.” There it is!

  19. “Albuquerque” sounds like all those other Al- names one sees in Iberia, e.g., Alhambra, Alcante, Algarve. (“Alcatraz” comes from the Arabic for “gannet bird”, given to the island for its plethora of pelicans.)

    The city may thus be a subconscious draw to wandering Araby.

    However, indirect namesake Alburquerque [sic] is a once-Portuguese, now-Spanish town named for white oaks, or quercus alba in Latin.

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Reg Cæsar

    What impresses about Reg's commentary is the way that erudition on languages, biographies, geography and history exists side-by-side with minute recall of the back catalog of 1970s pop fixtures.

    Well, to some extent this characterizes many commenters here, but with Reg it is nearly an art form. Plus anagrams!

    Reg, were you the hidden hand behind 1980s Spy magazine's Monthly Anagram Analyses?

  20. These killings will still be listed as anti-muslim hate crimes (which they technically are) in government data, congressional hearings and future media reports.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @clifford brown


    These killings will still be listed as anti-muslim hate crimes (which they technically are)
     
    Nope. Technically they are not anti-Muslim hate crimes.

    Replies: @clifford brown, @Clyde

  21. Is this good? I thought some based maga guy was kicking ass. Now I find its just an intramural dispute!
    They found some white guy named Podgorny on the south side of Chicago with a car full of weapons and ammo.
    I don’t know what was the plan,but the brothers were all like,feets do yo stuff!😮

  22. At least they didn’t kill the girl too.

  23. The Biden tweet is basically a blood libel against the White community.

  24. Killing Muslims another job Americans won’t do**.

    (**in America)

  25. @clifford brown
    These killings will still be listed as anti-muslim hate crimes (which they technically are) in government data, congressional hearings and future media reports.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    These killings will still be listed as anti-muslim hate crimes (which they technically are)

    Nope. Technically they are not anti-Muslim hate crimes.

    • Replies: @clifford brown
    @Anonymous

    It is sectarian violence where the victims were targeted for their religious Muslim Shiite faith.

    , @Clyde
    @Anonymous


    Nope. Technically they are not anti-Muslim hate crimes.
     
    These are intra-Muslim hate crimes and squabbling that go back to 660AD or so when Muslims A backed Ali to succeed Muhammad, who had croaked. And Muslim grouping B backed Abu Bakr


    Shia Islam holds that Ali ibn Abi Talib was the designated successor to the Islamic prophet Muhammad -- Abu Bakr was the Sunni choice. -- For all his efforts, Ali was assassinated 26 January 661. It has been Sunni vs Shiite ever since. Though they will unite to fight the infidel.

    Replies: @Muggles

  26. @jb
    Your link to the second article is wrong. It should be Albuquerque Police Detain Suspect in Killings of Muslim Men.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Thanks.

  27. … During the Trump administration, when concerns grew over bigotry directed against Muslims, officials passed a bill affirming Albuquerque’s status as an “immigrant friendly” city. It restricted federal immigration agents from entering city-operated facilities and city employees from collecting immigration status information.

    At least 300 Afghan refugees have arrived in Albuquerque over the past year, bolstering a growing community reflected today by at least eight different places of worship for Muslims. Albuquerque strengthened outreach efforts through translators speaking Arabic, Dari, Farsi, Urdu and Pashto — languages that officials have prioritized in recent days when sharing information about the killings.

    Although Muslims in the United States faced violence and discrimination after Sept. 11 and during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign, the apparent serial nature of the attacks in Albuquerque — and the stubborn mystery of who is responsible — is uniquely disconcerting, said Sumayyah Waheed, senior policy counsel at Muslim Advocates, a civil rights group.

    Boy that is some incredibly sleazy “journalism” even by the NYT standards.

    “Stubborn mystery?”

    This is openly, obviously, undeniably a story not about America or Americans–much less Donald Trump–but about immigration. About immigrants dragging their Old Country quarrels, hostilities and hatreds into America and inflicting them–and associated violence–upon our communities.

    Again separation.

    These pathetic liars love to hate on us flyover country whites–whose country, btw several of them or their parents somehow decided was a heck of a lot better than wherever they came from. This is obnoxious, but have at it.

    But … they get to have to enjoy this wondrous diversity. They deserve to enjoy the wonderfulness of the Afghans they love so much–and their sectarian murders. We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

  28. @smetana
    Prince Bandar "Bush" bin Sultan said to Sir Richard "MI6" Dearlove:

    'God help the Shia'. More than a billion Sunnis have simply had enough of them.
     
    https://twitter.com/bbcyaldahakim/status/488407164026093568

    Replies: @Nachum

    Yeah, as soon as I saw it, I thought, “An angry white guy would shoot up a mosque or something. Picking them off one by one? This is an honor killing.”

    Ding!

  29. @Anonymous
    @clifford brown


    These killings will still be listed as anti-muslim hate crimes (which they technically are)
     
    Nope. Technically they are not anti-Muslim hate crimes.

    Replies: @clifford brown, @Clyde

    It is sectarian violence where the victims were targeted for their religious Muslim Shiite faith.

    • Thanks: Hibernian
  30. @Franz
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    Agree.

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them.

    Weren’t East Side New Yorkers mostly Irish themselves?

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Anonymous

    The Lower East Side in the first half of the 1800's was heavily lower-class WASP and German. (The movie Gangs of New York makes a big deal of this.) The Germans eventually moved to a part of the Upper East Side, the rest of which is mostly very upper-class WASP. The Lower East Side became Irish, Jewish, and Italian, and is now heavily Chinese and some Hispanic.

  31. @Unintended Consequence
    As soon as I saw the perp was driving a sedan, I knew it was Muslim on Muslim crime. No self-respecting white male hater of foreigners would drive anything other than a truck (or maybe a Jeep) in that part of the country.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @J1234

    Also, don’t forget the Confederate flag.

  32. @Rob McX

    This story reminds me of a local police blotter item that for about 8 hours looked like it was going to be the biggest story in the country that week, but then vanished.
     
    There was another such case in Ireland in May of this year, just before Pride Month. Two homosexual men were murdered and another left with permanent injuries in separate attacks. The killer used the Grindr app to lure the victims. This was shaping up to be a hate crime that would make headlines around the world. At least one of the two men killed was also beheaded.

    But when an arrest was made, everything suddenly went quiet. You can probably guess why.



    https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/j30It817INMUPXIeKTbXclk9k-w=/1600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/WE7AD3LWKSJ3QPLRKTVPXQ5K7A.jpg

    Replies: @Nachum, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    I remember for a few days Irish media was bemoaning the deadly legacy of Catholicism and blah blah blah.

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    That detective looks so *disappointed*! Translation mine:

    If he’s Woke: “I wish it had been a white guy.”

    If he’s not: “Damn, there goes that commendation.”

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Nachum

    The gay lobby often ends up being disappointed. I remember, around 20 or so years ago, someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland. So gay marriage had an ancient pedigree! It was probably a regular occurrence before the Catholic Church began to exercise its repressive tyranny.

    Then someone spoiled it all by suggesting Gerald was not the most reliable of sources. Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @AnotherDad
    @Nachum


    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.
     
    C'mon you telling me homos never get mixed up in bar brawls?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Nachum

  33. @Mr. Anon

    Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,.................
     
    Levin is not only the director of the "Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism", he is it's only member according to its' website. The "Our People" tab lists only his name.

    Can one guy be a "Center for Something".

    Maybe Steve should be a Center too.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Almost Missouri, @Veteran Aryan

    Can one guy be a “Center for Something”.

    One guy can certainly be a purveyor of hate and extremism.

  34. @Rob McX

    … The report of an interpersonal conflict that could be linked to a sectarian dispute raised the specter of the kind of violence that many immigrants from conflict-ridden countries had hoped to leave behind.
     
    In other words, Muslims hate each other far more than whites hate them. Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don't hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Nachum, @Mark G.

    Now many Muslims in the city feel like targets, and fear is even driving some people to make plans to leave New Mexico.

    Reached for comment, one of the migrants said, “Albuquerque no good! Too many migrants!”

    At least, I think he said Albuquerque.
    Might have been America.

    • Agree: bomag
  35. @Rob McX

    … The report of an interpersonal conflict that could be linked to a sectarian dispute raised the specter of the kind of violence that many immigrants from conflict-ridden countries had hoped to leave behind.
     
    In other words, Muslims hate each other far more than whites hate them. Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don't hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Nachum, @Mark G.

    When the Yugoslavian wars broke out in the early 90’s, the Serbian and Croatian communities in Queens had a soccer game against each other.

    I think the Indians and Pakistanis in Queens play cricket, but then they do that on the Subcontinent too.

    There’s a line in the book World War Z that goes something like, “We all expected the nuclear exchange to be between India and Pakistan, so it took us by surprise when it ended up being between Pakistan and Iran.”

    I remember when some expat Israelis were harassing a Palestinian falafel store owner in L.A., the Jewish Defense League (which basically was reduced to the L.A. chapter by then) came to the defense of…the Arab. To be fair, a part of their expressed logic was, “Hey, we want Palestinians to feel comfortable…in Southern California.” Which is still foolish, but “foolish” and “Jewish” go hand-in-hand here.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Nachum


    I remember when some expat Israelis were harassing a Palestinian falafel store owner in L.A., the Jewish Defense League (which basically was reduced to the L.A. chapter by then) came to the defense of…the Arab. To be fair, a part of their expressed logic was, “Hey, we want Palestinians to feel comfortable…in Southern California.” Which is still foolish, but “foolish” and “Jewish” go hand-in-hand here.
     
    It isn’t foolish at all. The Grand Bargain is to give some of America to Muslims in exchange for Palestine. Jewish supremacists get a two-fer because the Muslim immigration into the United States dilutes the strength of its European Christian core.

    Replies: @Nachum

  36. authorities told him that the suspect was a Sunni Muslim, and may have targeted the victims because he was angry over his daughter marrying a Shiite Muslim.

    Bro, instead of shooting other people, control your daughter.

  37. @AnotherDad

    … During the Trump administration, when concerns grew over bigotry directed against Muslims, officials passed a bill affirming Albuquerque’s status as an “immigrant friendly” city. It restricted federal immigration agents from entering city-operated facilities and city employees from collecting immigration status information.

    At least 300 Afghan refugees have arrived in Albuquerque over the past year, bolstering a growing community reflected today by at least eight different places of worship for Muslims. Albuquerque strengthened outreach efforts through translators speaking Arabic, Dari, Farsi, Urdu and Pashto — languages that officials have prioritized in recent days when sharing information about the killings.

    Although Muslims in the United States faced violence and discrimination after Sept. 11 and during Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign, the apparent serial nature of the attacks in Albuquerque — and the stubborn mystery of who is responsible — is uniquely disconcerting, said Sumayyah Waheed, senior policy counsel at Muslim Advocates, a civil rights group.
     
    Boy that is some incredibly sleazy "journalism" even by the NYT standards.

    "Stubborn mystery?"

    This is openly, obviously, undeniably a story not about America or Americans--much less Donald Trump--but about immigration. About immigrants dragging their Old Country quarrels, hostilities and hatreds into America and inflicting them--and associated violence--upon our communities.


    Again separation.

    These pathetic liars love to hate on us flyover country whites--whose country, btw several of them or their parents somehow decided was a heck of a lot better than wherever they came from. This is obnoxious, but have at it.

    But ... they get to have to enjoy this wondrous diversity. They deserve to enjoy the wonderfulness of the Afghans they love so much--and their sectarian murders. We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.

    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,” all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*

    *Settle down, everybody, I’m being sarcastic.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    @Twinkie

    I think you know that I know you're one of the people here who most argues in good faith, so don't take this personally.....

    The vast majority of Americans never agreed to this madness-level scheme of mass immigration/population/wage replacement. We are governed by a hostile, alien, essentially foreign elite which hates the native population and wants to destroy it. The USA is effectively an impotent satrap of the international invisible Jewish empire.

    Nobody except Jewish mind-slaves "asked for it good and hard." Come out drinking with me some night and I'll show you what actual Americans really think.

    , @bomag
    @Twinkie


    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”...
     
    Yes, but the bulk of the people advocating such are plenty insulated from the consequences.
    , @AnotherDad
    @Twinkie


    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,” all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.
     
    And now it's time for a choosing.
    , @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Thomm, @Thomm

    , @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie


    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”
     
    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of "invite the world", they were pretty quiet about it.

    Also, by "invade", I think everyone understood something like raid-in-force to take out those elements most responsible and most threatening. Operation Anaconda in 2002 seemed like the culmination of what we could expect to do militarily. Nation-building was explicitly excluded. Multi-decade, trillion dollar, open-ended social justice commitments weren't even discussed.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

  38. First we lost Los Angeles.

    Then we lost Miami.

    Now we’ve lost … Albuquerque?

    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @AnotherDad

    You might not want to visit Des Moines.....

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    , @bomag
    @AnotherDad

    Agree.

    I've touted New Mexico as a template of the future: half Hispanic and relatively poor; but almost no net immigration; with the wealthy boutique centers of Taos and Sante Fe.

    Evidence seemed to be that immigrants eventually realize that the golden goose can only take so much squeezing. Disturbing to contemplate the plane just getting flown into the ground.

    Replies: @Truth

    , @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?
     
    Des Moines has been lost for a good while now. It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    Replies: @Thomm, @Bill Jones

  39. Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.
     
    It’s good for the Jews.

    Replies: @Jack D

    , @Bill Jones
    @AnotherDad


    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.
     
    The dumbest thing had already been done by then, hence the ADL.
  40. @Unintended Consequence
    As soon as I saw the perp was driving a sedan, I knew it was Muslim on Muslim crime. No self-respecting white male hater of foreigners would drive anything other than a truck (or maybe a Jeep) in that part of the country.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @J1234

    I thought the same thing when I read that it was a VW Jetta with tinted windows that the cops wanted to locate. If I had to guess, I’d say that the ethnicity that whites who drive tinted window Jettas hate most is their own. Like a lot of other things, cars can figure into the profile and personality type of people. How could the New York Times be so clueless about this?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @J1234


    How could the New York Times be so clueless about this?
     
    You forget that willful cluelessness is the the NYT's (and the rest of the Establishment's) stock-in-trade.

    It's what they do.

    It's Who They Are,

    to coin a phrase.

  41. Anonymous[905] • Disclaimer says:
    @Nachum
    @Rob McX

    When the Yugoslavian wars broke out in the early 90's, the Serbian and Croatian communities in Queens had a soccer game against each other.

    I think the Indians and Pakistanis in Queens play cricket, but then they do that on the Subcontinent too.

    There's a line in the book World War Z that goes something like, "We all expected the nuclear exchange to be between India and Pakistan, so it took us by surprise when it ended up being between Pakistan and Iran."

    I remember when some expat Israelis were harassing a Palestinian falafel store owner in L.A., the Jewish Defense League (which basically was reduced to the L.A. chapter by then) came to the defense of...the Arab. To be fair, a part of their expressed logic was, "Hey, we want Palestinians to feel comfortable...in Southern California." Which is still foolish, but "foolish" and "Jewish" go hand-in-hand here.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I remember when some expat Israelis were harassing a Palestinian falafel store owner in L.A., the Jewish Defense League (which basically was reduced to the L.A. chapter by then) came to the defense of…the Arab. To be fair, a part of their expressed logic was, “Hey, we want Palestinians to feel comfortable…in Southern California.” Which is still foolish, but “foolish” and “Jewish” go hand-in-hand here.

    It isn’t foolish at all. The Grand Bargain is to give some of America to Muslims in exchange for Palestine. Jewish supremacists get a two-fer because the Muslim immigration into the United States dilutes the strength of its European Christian core.

    • Agree: Gordo
    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Anonymous

    Well, I wouldn't be that conspiratorial, considering that the JDL, bless it, is something of a fringe group, but of course, that's literally what they're saying. It's foolish for the Jews (and other white people) *of L.A.*, because, in the immortal words of my parents, having engaged in White Flight from the Bronx, referring to a different racial group, "The first few to move in are nice enough, good families, working people. But then their relative start to move in..."

    And I imagine it doesn't do much good for Israel either, because let's be honest, not every Palestinian is going to move to the US. (Hopefully.) There are plenty of Arab countries right next door that would do better, if they really wanted to go that way. Indeed, the JDL's Israeli spinoff has exactly that as their policy. The founder of both dedicated one of his books to his native United States, as he put it a great country reduced to a horrible state in the hands of fools and knaves.

  42. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do ... but it's damn close.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill Jones

    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.

    It’s good for the Jews.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel's greatest friend in Congress.

    Everything bad is not the Jews' fault. This one is not even close.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  43. @AnotherDad
    First we lost Los Angeles.

    Then we lost Miami.

    Now we've lost ... Albuquerque?

    Pretty soon ... what? Des Moines?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @bomag, @Twinkie

    You might not want to visit Des Moines…..

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Redneck farmer


    You might not want to visit Des Moines…..
     
    Actually, AnotherMom and I rolled through I June, but only a quick Costco stop.

    But point taken. The diversification of Iowa is very sad. You could visit Des Moines in say 1965 and although it would be the blackest place in Iowa it was still a whitetopia. (And, of course, with essentially zero "Hispanics".) But no place can be allowed to just be.

    We're in the geographic einsatzgruppen phase now where any remaining pocket whitetopias must be found and shot with diversity. I'd bet whichever Jewish guy is running Homeland--think that's the Hispanic one--has some underling with a map of areas that are ripe for "direct from the border!" injections of diversity.

    If you don't have borders ... you don't have anything. We need a separate nation of people who understand that.
  44. @bomag

    One man, who immigrated from Iraq, said that he felt safer back when he first came to the country in the 1980s.
     
    I guess that gives us a timeline on how long nice things last once the new guy shows up.

    Replies: @Clyde

    From the last fourteen centuries of Muslim history. It’s just too bad that the self-appointed multiculturalists in charge of everything didn’t know enough about multiple cultures to see that one coming! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845

    I doubt that when GW Bush invaded Iraq, that GW knew the diff between Shiite vs Sunni, the wars that have only been going on for 14 centuries. I know I didn’t. So basically we invaded Iraq for nothing. Our end result was turning a Sunni ruled nation into Shiite ruled, aligned with Shiite Iran.

    Let you and him fight applies to these clowns of Allah. When battling each other, they are not fighting the infidel.

    • Replies: @Nachum
    @Clyde

    From the movie American Dreamz, a sort of parody of Bush:

    President Staton: Did you know there are two kinds of Iraqistanis?

    [the First Lady holds up three fingers]

    President Staton: I mean, actually, three?

    Chief of Staff: You mean Sunnis and Shi'ites and Kurds?

    President Staton: You knew about this?

    Replies: @Ralph L

  45. @Anonymous
    @clifford brown


    These killings will still be listed as anti-muslim hate crimes (which they technically are)
     
    Nope. Technically they are not anti-Muslim hate crimes.

    Replies: @clifford brown, @Clyde

    Nope. Technically they are not anti-Muslim hate crimes.

    These are intra-Muslim hate crimes and squabbling that go back to 660AD or so when Muslims A backed Ali to succeed Muhammad, who had croaked. And Muslim grouping B backed Abu Bakr

    Shia Islam holds that Ali ibn Abi Talib was the designated successor to the Islamic prophet Muhammad — Abu Bakr was the Sunni choice. — For all his efforts, Ali was assassinated 26 January 661. It has been Sunni vs Shiite ever since. Though they will unite to fight the infidel.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Clyde

    Yes, thanks for this bit of actual Muslim (a/k/a "Religion of Peace") history.

    This would be like still warring Christian factions killing each other over who succeeded St. Peter as the second Pope roughly 2,000 years ago.

    The Muslims never seem to ask themselves the question, why would any of that still matter?

    Of course any questioning of particular sectarian dogma can be very lethal in the Muslim world.

    One has to obey, not question.

    Shiite Muslims are like Hillary Democrats. Never get over their loss...

    So, to conclude my analogy, the Shia Democrats are now in charge in DC. Therefore, Trump must be beheaded...

  46. Good old immigrants, doing the work (of hate crimes) that Americans won’t do.

  47. @Anonymous
    @Franz


    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them.
     
    Weren’t East Side New Yorkers mostly Irish themselves?

    Replies: @Nachum

    The Lower East Side in the first half of the 1800’s was heavily lower-class WASP and German. (The movie Gangs of New York makes a big deal of this.) The Germans eventually moved to a part of the Upper East Side, the rest of which is mostly very upper-class WASP. The Lower East Side became Irish, Jewish, and Italian, and is now heavily Chinese and some Hispanic.

  48. @Clyde
    @bomag


    From the last fourteen centuries of Muslim history. It’s just too bad that the self-appointed multiculturalists in charge of everything didn’t know enough about multiple cultures to see that one coming! #EstablishmentFail #6,258,845
     
    I doubt that when GW Bush invaded Iraq, that GW knew the diff between Shiite vs Sunni, the wars that have only been going on for 14 centuries. I know I didn't. So basically we invaded Iraq for nothing. Our end result was turning a Sunni ruled nation into Shiite ruled, aligned with Shiite Iran.

    Let you and him fight applies to these clowns of Allah. When battling each other, they are not fighting the infidel.

    Replies: @Nachum

    From the movie American Dreamz, a sort of parody of Bush:

    President Staton: Did you know there are two kinds of Iraqistanis?

    [the First Lady holds up three fingers]

    President Staton: I mean, actually, three?

    Chief of Staff: You mean Sunnis and Shi’ites and Kurds?

    President Staton: You knew about this?

    • Replies: @Ralph L
    @Nachum

    I suspect W learned about this in the bloody aftermath of Desert Storm and the birth of No-Fly Zones. I certainly did.

    Replies: @Prester John

  49. @Anonymous
    @Nachum


    I remember when some expat Israelis were harassing a Palestinian falafel store owner in L.A., the Jewish Defense League (which basically was reduced to the L.A. chapter by then) came to the defense of…the Arab. To be fair, a part of their expressed logic was, “Hey, we want Palestinians to feel comfortable…in Southern California.” Which is still foolish, but “foolish” and “Jewish” go hand-in-hand here.
     
    It isn’t foolish at all. The Grand Bargain is to give some of America to Muslims in exchange for Palestine. Jewish supremacists get a two-fer because the Muslim immigration into the United States dilutes the strength of its European Christian core.

    Replies: @Nachum

    Well, I wouldn’t be that conspiratorial, considering that the JDL, bless it, is something of a fringe group, but of course, that’s literally what they’re saying. It’s foolish for the Jews (and other white people) *of L.A.*, because, in the immortal words of my parents, having engaged in White Flight from the Bronx, referring to a different racial group, “The first few to move in are nice enough, good families, working people. But then their relative start to move in…”

    And I imagine it doesn’t do much good for Israel either, because let’s be honest, not every Palestinian is going to move to the US. (Hopefully.) There are plenty of Arab countries right next door that would do better, if they really wanted to go that way. Indeed, the JDL’s Israeli spinoff has exactly that as their policy. The founder of both dedicated one of his books to his native United States, as he put it a great country reduced to a horrible state in the hands of fools and knaves.

  50. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    I think you know that I know you’re one of the people here who most argues in good faith, so don’t take this personally…..

    The vast majority of Americans never agreed to this madness-level scheme of mass immigration/population/wage replacement. We are governed by a hostile, alien, essentially foreign elite which hates the native population and wants to destroy it. The USA is effectively an impotent satrap of the international invisible Jewish empire.

    Nobody except Jewish mind-slaves “asked for it good and hard.” Come out drinking with me some night and I’ll show you what actual Americans really think.

  51. As always when this comes up I post the NYPD hate crimes data driven by the enormous amount of resentment and hatred the Hasidic population generates (Steve recently noted how the Amish population is exploding, so is the Hasidic population and their interactions with other groups particularly in crowded NYC aren’t great) there making the ignoring of hate crimes not involving white perps impossible to ignore given that much of it is anti-Jewish (Even if non-Hasidic Jews share much of the same disdain towards Hasidim as gentiles, they aren’t going to let the NYPD ignore it.)

    https://www1.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/reports-analysis/hate-crimes.page

    The Twitter feed is also full of diverse perps.

  52. @Rob McX

    This story reminds me of a local police blotter item that for about 8 hours looked like it was going to be the biggest story in the country that week, but then vanished.
     
    There was another such case in Ireland in May of this year, just before Pride Month. Two homosexual men were murdered and another left with permanent injuries in separate attacks. The killer used the Grindr app to lure the victims. This was shaping up to be a hate crime that would make headlines around the world. At least one of the two men killed was also beheaded.

    But when an arrest was made, everything suddenly went quiet. You can probably guess why.



    https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/j30It817INMUPXIeKTbXclk9k-w=/1600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/WE7AD3LWKSJ3QPLRKTVPXQ5K7A.jpg

    Replies: @Nachum, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    The tell was “beheaded”. Muslims love that sh*t. Koran’s full of it. Too bloody for squeamish Christians, though.

    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case. Recall how the Muslim-on-gay Pulse nightclub shooting was repurposed from yet another run-of-the-mill Muslim mass murder into the Terror of Violent Homophobia. Which itself was just a rerun of the routine drug-deal-gone-wrong killing of Matthew Shepherd into the Martyrdom of Saint Matthew basis for a thousand hate crime laws. C’mon ya lazy Irish scribblers, your American cousins have a well-worn playbook for these kinds of situations!

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Almost Missouri

    I know, the beheading was a giveaway. It's too far away for Mexicans, so it had to be a Muslim.

  53. @Anon
    OT: They're already prosecuting women for getting abortions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/08/08/facebook-abortion-teen-dms

    Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. They don't care. They're willing to run the Republican party into the ground in pursuit of their virtue-signaling. We need to make a clear, unequivocal break from these people, or else we're going to have 4 more years of Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Ed, @Adamant, @James B. Shearer

    If Republicans or conservatives lose because people want to abort their babies conceived after engaging in reckless, casual sex, so be it. The country is too far gone to be saved anyway.

    • Agree: Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Ed


    If Republicans or conservatives lose because people want to abort their babies conceived after engaging in reckless, casual sex, so be it.
     
    What approach are you saying is good? Who is right? (Republican anti-abortionists, their Republican critics, or people who want to abort babies conceived after casual sex?)
    , @Anon
    @Ed

    Are you saying the country needs more children conceived by reckless, casual sex? The pro life movement is so low class....

  54. @Franz
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    Agree.

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers.

    Irish Protestant / Irish Catholic conflict in NYC was a brief mid 19th century phenomenon which ended when the Catholics far outnumbered the Protestants. Bill the Butcher makes a good story but he’s a very small part of the story of NYC.

    Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    My Dad was 50% Polish, 25 % French Canadian, and 25% Irish. He was born in 1930 and his oldest sister was born in 1920. The pot’s been melting for quite a long time.

    • Thanks: Coemgen
  55. @Mr. Anon

    Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,.................
     
    Levin is not only the director of the "Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism", he is it's only member according to its' website. The "Our People" tab lists only his name.

    Can one guy be a "Center for Something".

    Maybe Steve should be a Center too.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Almost Missouri, @Veteran Aryan

    If my understanding of the latest permutations of things academia-ic is correct, a “Center” means that someone gave some money (not necessarily their own) for something (not necessarily the thing that the Center actually does). The university will staff that “Center” with as many faculty as it takes to soak up the funding while they carry on whatever it is they would do anyway. Note that a single faculty member can easily soak up seven figures or more of funding.

    Also note that no person of goodwill and healthy inclinations should under any circumstances donate any money to any mainstream academia. No matter how conservative, normal and pure your intentions, your money will be repurposed to advance the Woke Borg. And they say that alchemy died after the Middle Ages…

    This article describes some examples:

    https://www.cspicenter.com/p/41-lessons-from-the-frontlines-of#details

    (The “C” in “CSPI” does stand for “Center”. While ironic, in this case it is not an academic scam.)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri


    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case.

    the Woke Borg
     
    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?

    Use better terminology, please.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Recently Based
    @Almost Missouri

    Exactly right.

    At an Ivy-level university "center" = $10 - 25MM; "institute" = $25 - 100MM; "school" >= $100MM

  56. @The Anti-Gnostic
    LOL saw this coming two days ago.

    Replies: @Franz, @Hannah Katz

    Now the left expects us to protect the Moslems from… themselves.

  57. @Rob McX

    … The report of an interpersonal conflict that could be linked to a sectarian dispute raised the specter of the kind of violence that many immigrants from conflict-ridden countries had hoped to leave behind.
     
    In other words, Muslims hate each other far more than whites hate them. Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don't hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    Replies: @HammerJack, @Nachum, @Mark G.

    Import the Third World and you import all their tribal and sectarian hatreds. And many of the immigrants don’t hope to leave these conflicts behind. When they land in America, they want to pick up where they left off at home.

    My Congressional representative here in Indiana, Victoria Spartz, was born in the Ukraine and is an ardent advocate of dragging the U.S. into the Russia-Ukraine conflict on the side of the Ukrainians. Her support was welcomed by the Ukrainian government, the Biden administration, and the neocons here in the U.S. That is, until she said the Ukrainian government needs to be less corrupt whereupon they accused her of being “pro-Russian”.

    Americans have traditionally believed in individual rights more than the people in most countries on the planet and in a government that protects those individual rights rather than a government that is designed to benefit certain ethnic or religious groups. If you come here, you have to pick whether you are going to bring your ancient ethnic or religious grudges with you or are going to see others here as your fellow Americans who should be treated fairly. If you pick the second, you will eventually notice the pointless unending feuds, corruption and authoritarianism in most countries on this planet, including your old homeland. My Congressional representative has become at least somewhat Americanized so is unable to engage in uncritical support of the country she was born in.

    • Agree: Rob McX
  58. @J1234
    @Unintended Consequence

    I thought the same thing when I read that it was a VW Jetta with tinted windows that the cops wanted to locate. If I had to guess, I'd say that the ethnicity that whites who drive tinted window Jettas hate most is their own. Like a lot of other things, cars can figure into the profile and personality type of people. How could the New York Times be so clueless about this?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    How could the New York Times be so clueless about this?

    You forget that willful cluelessness is the the NYT‘s (and the rest of the Establishment’s) stock-in-trade.

    It’s what they do.

    It’s Who They Are,

    to coin a phrase.

  59. @Ed
    @Anon

    If Republicans or conservatives lose because people want to abort their babies conceived after engaging in reckless, casual sex, so be it. The country is too far gone to be saved anyway.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon

    If Republicans or conservatives lose because people want to abort their babies conceived after engaging in reckless, casual sex, so be it.

    What approach are you saying is good? Who is right? (Republican anti-abortionists, their Republican critics, or people who want to abort babies conceived after casual sex?)

  60. @anonymouseperson
    The media did the same trick with some Muslim who murdered his daughters over having non-Muslim boyfriends. The headlines blare "Texas man" as though he is some white redneck but is actually an immigrant from Egypt.

    Replies: @slumber_j

    The headlines blare “Texas man” as though he is some white redneck but is actually an immigrant from Egypt.

    Yeah, you get a lot of this.

    From Steve Sailer’s original post:

    And then the article wanders off with the four reporters trying to repurpose their notes from their intended Pulitzer Prize-winning expose “The Dark Heart of Hate Stalks Muslims Even in Albuquerque.”

    Judging from the NYT’s (still) Pulitzer-winning work on Russian Collusion, I don’t see the new developments in this case as much of an obstacle to victory.

  61. @Almost Missouri
    @Mr. Anon

    If my understanding of the latest permutations of things academia-ic is correct, a "Center" means that someone gave some money (not necessarily their own) for something (not necessarily the thing that the Center actually does). The university will staff that "Center" with as many faculty as it takes to soak up the funding while they carry on whatever it is they would do anyway. Note that a single faculty member can easily soak up seven figures or more of funding.

    Also note that no person of goodwill and healthy inclinations should under any circumstances donate any money to any mainstream academia. No matter how conservative, normal and pure your intentions, your money will be repurposed to advance the Woke Borg. And they say that alchemy died after the Middle Ages...

    This article describes some examples:

    https://www.cspicenter.com/p/41-lessons-from-the-frontlines-of#details

    (The "C" in "CSPI" does stand for "Center". While ironic, in this case it is not an academic scam.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Recently Based

    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case.

    the Woke Borg

    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?

    Use better terminology, please.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Anonymous


    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?
     
    What's the difference?
  62. @Anon
    OT: They're already prosecuting women for getting abortions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/08/08/facebook-abortion-teen-dms

    Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. They don't care. They're willing to run the Republican party into the ground in pursuit of their virtue-signaling. We need to make a clear, unequivocal break from these people, or else we're going to have 4 more years of Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Ed, @Adamant, @James B. Shearer

    Nope.

    She’s not being charged for having an abortion, one that was already illegal in April when this happened, she’s charged with burning the body. Her mother is charged with performing the illegal abortion. Nebraska has a 20 week limit. She was 24 weeks along.

    But facts are pesky things. Better to just lie.

    • Agree: DCThrowback
    • Replies: @Anon
    @Adamant

    "She’s not being charged for having an abortion, one that was already illegal in April when this happened, she’s charged with burning the body."

    Distinction without a difference.

  63. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”…

    Yes, but the bulk of the people advocating such are plenty insulated from the consequences.

  64. Can we at least do the dead men honour by a slight change in spelling: “Al Buquerque”?

    • LOL: Cool Daddy Jimbo
  65. @Reg Cæsar
    "Albuquerque" sounds like all those other Al- names one sees in Iberia, e.g., Alhambra, Alcante, Algarve. ("Alcatraz" comes from the Arabic for "gannet bird", given to the island for its plethora of pelicans.)

    The city may thus be a subconscious draw to wandering Araby.

    However, indirect namesake Alburquerque [sic] is a once-Portuguese, now-Spanish town named for white oaks, or quercus alba in Latin.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qrmPFWAwFQY

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    What impresses about Reg’s commentary is the way that erudition on languages, biographies, geography and history exists side-by-side with minute recall of the back catalog of 1970s pop fixtures.

    Well, to some extent this characterizes many commenters here, but with Reg it is nearly an art form. Plus anagrams!

    Reg, were you the hidden hand behind 1980s Spy magazine’s Monthly Anagram Analyses?

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  66. @AnotherDad
    First we lost Los Angeles.

    Then we lost Miami.

    Now we've lost ... Albuquerque?

    Pretty soon ... what? Des Moines?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @bomag, @Twinkie

    Agree.

    I’ve touted New Mexico as a template of the future: half Hispanic and relatively poor; but almost no net immigration; with the wealthy boutique centers of Taos and Sante Fe.

    Evidence seemed to be that immigrants eventually realize that the golden goose can only take so much squeezing. Disturbing to contemplate the plane just getting flown into the ground.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @bomag

    Neither Taos nor Santa Fe is remotely what one would consider wealthy.

    Replies: @bomag

  67. @Ed
    @Anon

    If Republicans or conservatives lose because people want to abort their babies conceived after engaging in reckless, casual sex, so be it. The country is too far gone to be saved anyway.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Anon

    Are you saying the country needs more children conceived by reckless, casual sex? The pro life movement is so low class….

  68. @Anon
    OT: They're already prosecuting women for getting abortions: https://www.forbes.com/sites/emilybaker-white/2022/08/08/facebook-abortion-teen-dms

    Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. They don't care. They're willing to run the Republican party into the ground in pursuit of their virtue-signaling. We need to make a clear, unequivocal break from these people, or else we're going to have 4 more years of Joe Biden.

    Replies: @Ed, @Adamant, @James B. Shearer

    “… They’re already prosecuting women for getting abortions:

    This prosecution was initiated before the Dobbs decision as the abortion in question was at 28 weeks and was not protected under Roe v. Wade.

    “Of course, they know how politically unpopular it is. ..”

    Banning dangerous self-induced abortions at 28 weeks isn’t actually politically unpopular.

  69. @Franz
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    Agree.

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    That you use “Irish” and “Polish” instead of “American” means that the “melting pot” is nothing but a myth. No, they are not Americans and never will be.

    • Replies: @Rocko
    @Chris Mallory

    Neither are you. Wouldn't be surprised if your family descended from filthy Scot scum.

  70. @Rob McX

    This story reminds me of a local police blotter item that for about 8 hours looked like it was going to be the biggest story in the country that week, but then vanished.
     
    There was another such case in Ireland in May of this year, just before Pride Month. Two homosexual men were murdered and another left with permanent injuries in separate attacks. The killer used the Grindr app to lure the victims. This was shaping up to be a hate crime that would make headlines around the world. At least one of the two men killed was also beheaded.

    But when an arrest was made, everything suddenly went quiet. You can probably guess why.



    https://www.irishtimes.com/resizer/j30It817INMUPXIeKTbXclk9k-w=/1600x0/filters:format(jpg):quality(70)/cloudfront-eu-central-1.images.arcpublishing.com/irishtimes/WE7AD3LWKSJ3QPLRKTVPXQ5K7A.jpg

    Replies: @Nachum, @Almost Missouri, @Anon

    The ruling class is always disappointed when they can’t blame the white man.

  71. @Almost Missouri
    @Rob McX

    The tell was "beheaded". Muslims love that sh*t. Koran's full of it. Too bloody for squeamish Christians, though.

    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case. Recall how the Muslim-on-gay Pulse nightclub shooting was repurposed from yet another run-of-the-mill Muslim mass murder into the Terror of Violent Homophobia. Which itself was just a rerun of the routine drug-deal-gone-wrong killing of Matthew Shepherd into the Martyrdom of Saint Matthew basis for a thousand hate crime laws. C'mon ya lazy Irish scribblers, your American cousins have a well-worn playbook for these kinds of situations!

    Replies: @Rob McX

    I know, the beheading was a giveaway. It’s too far away for Mexicans, so it had to be a Muslim.

  72. @Nachum
    @Rob McX

    I remember for a few days Irish media was bemoaning the deadly legacy of Catholicism and blah blah blah.

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    That detective looks so *disappointed*! Translation mine:

    If he's Woke: "I wish it had been a white guy."

    If he's not: "Damn, there goes that commendation."

    Replies: @Rob McX, @AnotherDad

    The gay lobby often ends up being disappointed. I remember, around 20 or so years ago, someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland. So gay marriage had an ancient pedigree! It was probably a regular occurrence before the Catholic Church began to exercise its repressive tyranny.

    Then someone spoiled it all by suggesting Gerald was not the most reliable of sources. Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.

    • Thanks: Nachum
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Rob McX


    ...someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland.
     
    Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick.

    Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.
     
    Mikhail Baryshnikov sired a Pony. Handed off to a Shepard to raise:


    http://www.sam-shepard.com/stillwater.html


    https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/676496715453612033/u34D4cLM_400x400.jpg

  73. @Mr. Anon

    Brian Levin, a professor of criminal justice at California State University at San Bernardino and the director of the school’s Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism,.................
     
    Levin is not only the director of the "Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism", he is it's only member according to its' website. The "Our People" tab lists only his name.

    Can one guy be a "Center for Something".

    Maybe Steve should be a Center too.

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Almost Missouri, @Veteran Aryan

    What are the odds…

    • LOL: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Veteran Aryan

    Can someone explain to Brian, that it's not our fault?

    (That's just not how these gene thingys work.)

  74. @Franz
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    LOL saw this coming two days ago.
     
    Agree.

    Even Irish immigrants a century ago was famous for sending their quarrels over with the workers. East Side New Yorkers utterly hated them. Then the Italians, Russians, Hungarians...

    It took most of two generations for all these people to become "Americans". Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.

    Or anyway the white part of it.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Hibernian, @Chris Mallory, @Reg Cæsar

    Now my best friend comes from an Irish daddy and a Polish mommy.

    • Thanks: Franz
  75. I guess some in the world are to go on bracing for that backlash that rarely – if ever – comes.

  76. Still waiting for the FBI to announce the perps…

    Can’t find any news on this since it came out on Feb. 2nd. Hate hoax?

    nbcnews.com – 02/02/22 -FBI identifies 6 juveniles as persons of interest in bomb threats at Black colleges

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/six-juveniles-identified-fbi-persons-interests-bomb-threats-historical-rcna14591

    Six “tech savvy” juveniles have been identified as persons of interest by the FBI in threats to historically Black colleges and universities that appear to be racially motivated.

    More than a dozen historically Black colleges and universities received bomb threats on Tuesday, the first day of Black History Month.

    A law enforcement official says the FBI has identified six persons of interest around the country, all juveniles, who are suspected of making the threats. The official says they appear to be “tech savvy,” using sophisticated methods to try to disguise the source of the threats, which appear to have a racist motivation…

  77. @Rob McX
    @Nachum

    The gay lobby often ends up being disappointed. I remember, around 20 or so years ago, someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland. So gay marriage had an ancient pedigree! It was probably a regular occurrence before the Catholic Church began to exercise its repressive tyranny.

    Then someone spoiled it all by suggesting Gerald was not the most reliable of sources. Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    …someone pointed out that the chronicler Gerald of Wales recounted cases of men marrying men in 12th century Ireland.

    Patrick Fitzgerald and Gerald Fitzpatrick.

    Among his many implausible claims was that men sometimes mated with cows, and a knight in Breconshire had sired a calf.

    Mikhail Baryshnikov sired a Pony. Handed off to a Shepard to raise:

    http://www.sam-shepard.com/stillwater.html

    [MORE]

  78. @Nachum
    @Clyde

    From the movie American Dreamz, a sort of parody of Bush:

    President Staton: Did you know there are two kinds of Iraqistanis?

    [the First Lady holds up three fingers]

    President Staton: I mean, actually, three?

    Chief of Staff: You mean Sunnis and Shi'ites and Kurds?

    President Staton: You knew about this?

    Replies: @Ralph L

    I suspect W learned about this in the bloody aftermath of Desert Storm and the birth of No-Fly Zones. I certainly did.

    • Replies: @Prester John
    @Ralph L

    Junior is always being misunderestimated.

  79. And doooown the memory hole it goes.

  80. @Bragadocious
    If deadly immigrant blood feuds were a stock, I'd be backing up the truck right now. In any case it's a small price to pay for authentic Pashtun cuisine.

    Replies: @kpkinsunnyphiladelphia

    Any recommendations for Pashtun eateries in Albuquerque?

    Next time I swing by I’ll be sure to give a Yelp review.

  81. Here’s a new lead for the anti-White bigots at The New York Times.

    “In a feud reminiscent of the Hatfield’s and McCoy’s….etc. etc. etc. ”

    There’s always a way, people!!

  82. @Nachum
    @Rob McX

    I remember for a few days Irish media was bemoaning the deadly legacy of Catholicism and blah blah blah.

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    That detective looks so *disappointed*! Translation mine:

    If he's Woke: "I wish it had been a white guy."

    If he's not: "Damn, there goes that commendation."

    Replies: @Rob McX, @AnotherDad

    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.

    C’mon you telling me homos never get mixed up in bar brawls?

    • LOL: Nachum
    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @AnotherDad

    They do but it involves a lot of slapping and man purse throwing.

    , @Nachum
    @AnotherDad

    Reminds me of a story: Graham Chapman, of Monty Python, once went through what he called an "extremely gay" phase- flowered shirts, tight pastel pants, etc. He was in a bar once and a big tough Scotsman at the other end was gone on about "jennies." Chapman got more and more annoyed and finally said, "I'm going to tell him off." His friends were, "Oh no, he'll kill you." But Chapman went up to him, planted himself, and said, "Why are you going on about jennies? I'm one."

    The Scot's jaw dropped, and he just stared at Chapman. So Chapman repeated, "That's right, I'm a jenny, I'm a homosexual."

    The Scot stared for a moment more, recovered, and finally said, "Och, that was fookin' brave. Let me buy ye a drink."

  83. @AnotherDad
    @Nachum


    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.
     
    C'mon you telling me homos never get mixed up in bar brawls?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Nachum

    They do but it involves a lot of slapping and man purse throwing.

    • LOL: Nachum
  84. @AnotherDad
    @Nachum


    Never mind that the number of homosexuals killed in fifteen hundred years of Catholic Ireland was about zero.
     
    C'mon you telling me homos never get mixed up in bar brawls?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Nachum

    Reminds me of a story: Graham Chapman, of Monty Python, once went through what he called an “extremely gay” phase- flowered shirts, tight pastel pants, etc. He was in a bar once and a big tough Scotsman at the other end was gone on about “jennies.” Chapman got more and more annoyed and finally said, “I’m going to tell him off.” His friends were, “Oh no, he’ll kill you.” But Chapman went up to him, planted himself, and said, “Why are you going on about jennies? I’m one.”

    The Scot’s jaw dropped, and he just stared at Chapman. So Chapman repeated, “That’s right, I’m a jenny, I’m a homosexual.”

    The Scot stared for a moment more, recovered, and finally said, “Och, that was fookin’ brave. Let me buy ye a drink.”

  85. @Redneck farmer
    @AnotherDad

    You might not want to visit Des Moines.....

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    You might not want to visit Des Moines…..

    Actually, AnotherMom and I rolled through I June, but only a quick Costco stop.

    But point taken. The diversification of Iowa is very sad. You could visit Des Moines in say 1965 and although it would be the blackest place in Iowa it was still a whitetopia. (And, of course, with essentially zero “Hispanics”.) But no place can be allowed to just be.

    We’re in the geographic einsatzgruppen phase now where any remaining pocket whitetopias must be found and shot with diversity. I’d bet whichever Jewish guy is running Homeland–think that’s the Hispanic one–has some underling with a map of areas that are ripe for “direct from the border!” injections of diversity.

    If you don’t have borders … you don’t have anything. We need a separate nation of people who understand that.

  86. Knowing who the perp is and where he comes from, I predict that this story will have a VERY brief shelf life.

  87. @Ralph L
    @Nachum

    I suspect W learned about this in the bloody aftermath of Desert Storm and the birth of No-Fly Zones. I certainly did.

    Replies: @Prester John

    Junior is always being misunderestimated.

  88. Muslims killing fellow Muslims from a different sect?

    (Just like Christians did a about 800-600 years ago…)

    Who knew? When did this start?

    Has the NY Times and WaPo, CNN, etc. been informed?

  89. @Veteran Aryan
    @Mr. Anon

    What are the odds...
    https://www.calstate.edu/csu-system/news/PublishingImages/racism-covid/Brian-Levin.jpg

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    Can someone explain to Brian, that it’s not our fault?

    (That’s just not how these gene thingys work.)

  90. @Clyde
    @Anonymous


    Nope. Technically they are not anti-Muslim hate crimes.
     
    These are intra-Muslim hate crimes and squabbling that go back to 660AD or so when Muslims A backed Ali to succeed Muhammad, who had croaked. And Muslim grouping B backed Abu Bakr


    Shia Islam holds that Ali ibn Abi Talib was the designated successor to the Islamic prophet Muhammad -- Abu Bakr was the Sunni choice. -- For all his efforts, Ali was assassinated 26 January 661. It has been Sunni vs Shiite ever since. Though they will unite to fight the infidel.

    Replies: @Muggles

    Yes, thanks for this bit of actual Muslim (a/k/a “Religion of Peace”) history.

    This would be like still warring Christian factions killing each other over who succeeded St. Peter as the second Pope roughly 2,000 years ago.

    The Muslims never seem to ask themselves the question, why would any of that still matter?

    Of course any questioning of particular sectarian dogma can be very lethal in the Muslim world.

    One has to obey, not question.

    Shiite Muslims are like Hillary Democrats. Never get over their loss…

    So, to conclude my analogy, the Shia Democrats are now in charge in DC. Therefore, Trump must be beheaded…

  91. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,” all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    And now it’s time for a choosing.

  92. @bomag
    @AnotherDad

    Agree.

    I've touted New Mexico as a template of the future: half Hispanic and relatively poor; but almost no net immigration; with the wealthy boutique centers of Taos and Sante Fe.

    Evidence seemed to be that immigrants eventually realize that the golden goose can only take so much squeezing. Disturbing to contemplate the plane just getting flown into the ground.

    Replies: @Truth

    Neither Taos nor Santa Fe is remotely what one would consider wealthy.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Truth

    Relatively wealthy, for the desert Southwest, with no ports or large trading centers.

    Replies: @Truth

  93. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Truth

    Patriarchal condescension, the Sport of Kings!

    , @Thomm
    @Truth

    Truth,

    See here for some high-quality comedy :
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-first-time-as-aids-the-second-as-monkeypox/#comment-5470906

    Also, remember my challenge to Ron Unz to either delete my comments and ban me, or otherwise admit via silence that I am among the most valuable commenters here? Well, I am still here, which makes sense given the true purpose of this website.

    , @Thomm
    @Truth

    Truth,

    See here for some high-quality comedy :
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-first-time-as-aids-the-second-as-monkeypox/#comment-5470906

    Also, remember my challenge a full month ago to RUnzie Baby to either delete my entire comments archive and ban me, or otherwise admit via silence that I am among the most valuable commenters here? Well, I am still here, which makes sense given the true purpose of this website.

    Further confirmation about the true purpose of this website.

  94. “These hateful attacks have no place in America.”

    Well whatdya know, sleepy Joe’s right for once.

    • Agree: Rob McX
  95. @Anonymous
    @Almost Missouri


    All is not lost for the woke establishment media in this case.

    the Woke Borg
     
    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?

    Use better terminology, please.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Are they “woke” or are they genocidally anti-White?

    What’s the difference?

  96. @AnotherDad
    First we lost Los Angeles.

    Then we lost Miami.

    Now we've lost ... Albuquerque?

    Pretty soon ... what? Des Moines?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer, @bomag, @Twinkie

    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?

    Des Moines has been lost for a good while now. It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    @Twinkie

    Mr. Twinkacetti wrote :


    in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s
     
    When you make the same apostrophe mistake twice in the space of five words, it means you don't know the grammatical rule. One mistake is just a typo, but two in quick succession reveals an insufficient command of the English language.

    Correct : 90s and the early 2000s

    Incorrect : 90’s and the early 2000’s

    Following that, just a few words later we see :


    “southeast bottoms”
     
    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double. Not to mention capitalization.

    Correct : 'Southeast Bottoms'

    Incorrect : "southeast bottoms" (as you wrote)

    Your punctuation and grammatical skills are terrible, I must say.

    I understand that you are in an ESL situation and Korean is a very different language so the linguistic distance you had to cover is immense, but you may want to dial your grandstanding back until you master grammatical basics, particularly after having had 40+ years in an English-speaking country during which to get up to speed.

    https://youtu.be/MD53hwAN5DY

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Boomthorkell

    , @Bill Jones
    @Twinkie


    It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.
     
    Now that's an area crying out for gentrification.
  97. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    We who did not ask for it and do not want it, should not.
     
    As you know, I am highly sympathetic to many of your views, but, in retrospect, many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls "invade the world, invite the world," all the while denigrating those opposed to it as unpatriotic.

    On the other hand, the Afghan food around here is much, much better now.*


    *Settle down, everybody, I'm being sarcastic.

    Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @bomag, @AnotherDad, @Truth, @Almost Missouri

    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”

    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of “invite the world”, they were pretty quiet about it.

    Also, by “invade”, I think everyone understood something like raid-in-force to take out those elements most responsible and most threatening. Operation Anaconda in 2002 seemed like the culmination of what we could expect to do militarily. Nation-building was explicitly excluded. Multi-decade, trillion dollar, open-ended social justice commitments weren’t even discussed.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Almost Missouri


    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001
     
    They were “responsible” in the sense that they carried out the acts. They weren’t morally responsible, however. In other words, they weren’t blameworthy. They were acting in self defense and defense of others against Jewish and American aggression in their homelands.
    , @Twinkie
    @Almost Missouri


    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of “invite the world”, they were pretty quiet about it.
     
    Let's be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks. *I* was one of them!

    And, before 9/11, I was a minimal-interventionist ("non-interventionist" is a bit too absolutist) and one of the reasons I liked GW Bush was that he seemed skpetical (at least during the electioneering) of foreign interventions in the way he critiqued both Clinton (overtly) and his own father (subtly).

    I've been open about it here - 9/11 was highly traumatic for me and I lost my mind. So did many of my fellow Americans and we all cheered for invasions, we knew - deep inside - were not mere punitive raids, invasions, we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.

    Well, I am sober now, to be mild about it. But I am not going to pretend that I wasn't drunk before and didn't partake in the Sicilian Expedition of our time. And I think that applies to many, perhaps most Americans, judging from opinion polls of the time.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

  98. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Thomm, @Thomm

    Patriarchal condescension, the Sport of Kings!

  99. anon[408] • Disclaimer says:
    @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie


    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”
     
    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of "invite the world", they were pretty quiet about it.

    Also, by "invade", I think everyone understood something like raid-in-force to take out those elements most responsible and most threatening. Operation Anaconda in 2002 seemed like the culmination of what we could expect to do militarily. Nation-building was explicitly excluded. Multi-decade, trillion dollar, open-ended social justice commitments weren't even discussed.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001

    They were “responsible” in the sense that they carried out the acts. They weren’t morally responsible, however. In other words, they weren’t blameworthy. They were acting in self defense and defense of others against Jewish and American aggression in their homelands.

  100. @Anonymous
    @AnotherDad


    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.
     
    It’s good for the Jews.

    Replies: @Jack D

    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel’s greatest friend in Congress.

    Everything bad is not the Jews’ fault. This one is not even close.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel’s greatest friend in Congress.
     
    Yeah, but sometimes enemies collude to topple whom they presume to be a greater enemy. Isn't that the whole "Coalition of the Fringes" thesis our host often propounds?

    Everything bad is not the Jews’ fault
     
    Your take, on the other hand, is that nothing is ever the Jews' fault.

    Isn't the truth somewhere in between the two extremes?
  101. @Adamant
    @Anon

    Nope.

    She's not being charged for having an abortion, one that was already illegal in April when this happened, she's charged with burning the body. Her mother is charged with performing the illegal abortion. Nebraska has a 20 week limit. She was 24 weeks along.

    But facts are pesky things. Better to just lie.

    Replies: @Anon

    “She’s not being charged for having an abortion, one that was already illegal in April when this happened, she’s charged with burning the body.”

    Distinction without a difference.

  102. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Thomm, @Thomm

    Truth,

    See here for some high-quality comedy :
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-first-time-as-aids-the-second-as-monkeypox/#comment-5470906

    Also, remember my challenge to Ron Unz to either delete my comments and ban me, or otherwise admit via silence that I am among the most valuable commenters here? Well, I am still here, which makes sense given the true purpose of this website.

  103. @Truth
    @Twinkie

    Sarcasm is not your strong suit, Old Sport; you are much better at patriarchal condescension.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Thomm, @Thomm

    Truth,

    See here for some high-quality comedy :
    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-first-time-as-aids-the-second-as-monkeypox/#comment-5470906

    Also, remember my challenge a full month ago to RUnzie Baby to either delete my entire comments archive and ban me, or otherwise admit via silence that I am among the most valuable commenters here? Well, I am still here, which makes sense given the true purpose of this website.

    Further confirmation about the true purpose of this website.

  104. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?
     
    Des Moines has been lost for a good while now. It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    Replies: @Thomm, @Bill Jones

    Mr. Twinkacetti wrote :

    in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s

    When you make the same apostrophe mistake twice in the space of five words, it means you don’t know the grammatical rule. One mistake is just a typo, but two in quick succession reveals an insufficient command of the English language.

    Correct : 90s and the early 2000s

    Incorrect : 90’s and the early 2000’s

    Following that, just a few words later we see :

    “southeast bottoms”

    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double. Not to mention capitalization.

    Correct : ‘Southeast Bottoms’

    Incorrect : “southeast bottoms” (as you wrote)

    Your punctuation and grammatical skills are terrible, I must say.

    I understand that you are in an ESL situation and Korean is a very different language so the linguistic distance you had to cover is immense, but you may want to dial your grandstanding back until you master grammatical basics, particularly after having had 40+ years in an English-speaking country during which to get up to speed.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Thomm



    “southeast bottoms”
     
    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double.
     
    What? I never heard of this. What rule is this? AFAIK single quotation marks are a British affectation, used in more robust American English only to identify a quotation within a quotation.
    , @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    I mean, if your only response is to critique his apostrophe use, it must mean the rest of his argument is too powerful for a response.

    Replies: @Thomm

  105. @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie


    many Americans did ask for it good and hard by excitedly supporting a policy Mr. Sailer calls “invade the world, invite the world,”
     
    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of "invite the world", they were pretty quiet about it.

    Also, by "invade", I think everyone understood something like raid-in-force to take out those elements most responsible and most threatening. Operation Anaconda in 2002 seemed like the culmination of what we could expect to do militarily. Nation-building was explicitly excluded. Multi-decade, trillion dollar, open-ended social justice commitments weren't even discussed.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of “invite the world”, they were pretty quiet about it.

    Let’s be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks. *I* was one of them!

    And, before 9/11, I was a minimal-interventionist (“non-interventionist” is a bit too absolutist) and one of the reasons I liked GW Bush was that he seemed skpetical (at least during the electioneering) of foreign interventions in the way he critiqued both Clinton (overtly) and his own father (subtly).

    I’ve been open about it here – 9/11 was highly traumatic for me and I lost my mind. So did many of my fellow Americans and we all cheered for invasions, we knew – deep inside – were not mere punitive raids, invasions, we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.

    Well, I am sober now, to be mild about it. But I am not going to pretend that I wasn’t drunk before and didn’t partake in the Sicilian Expedition of our time. And I think that applies to many, perhaps most Americans, judging from opinion polls of the time.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Twinkie


    Let’s be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks.
     
    If you say so. I was not in the US at the time, so my knowledge of America at that time was largely second-hand. But, as a practical matter, anyone anywhere's knowledge of anything is almost always largely second-hand (or third- or fourth-hand or worse) anyway, so I don't know that I was at much of a disadvantage.

    Call me spergy, but I did make a systematic survey of the opinion pages of all the major English-language press outlets in the months after 9/11, and I was surprised and a little dismayed at how uniformly they called for restraint, "outreach", and various non-responsive responses, since, as mentioned, I thought it was obvious that part of the solution had to be military.

    I gather that you lived and worked in more siloviki circles than I did, so the ass-kickin' response was likely more pronounced there.


    we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.
     
    The invade-invite symmetry is a new thing. After WWII, the US was not inundated with German, Japanese and Italian immigrants. There were a few, to be sure, but they tended to be literal rocket scientists and the like. There was no "Refugees Welcome!" public sentiment at that time. The weird syllogism of "we bombed these people, so now we have to let them into our country wholesale" simply didn't exist.

    Ditto with the much smaller Korean War. There are today many Korean immigrants, but most Korean immigration came at least a generation after the War, as part of the general increase in immigration rather than with any specific reference to the 1950-1952 conflict.

    Even the Vietnam War did not immediately produce much Vietnamese immigration, though there was arguably some guilt/shame-induced immigration allowed to trickle in over the following decades.

    In fact, I would argue that the peculiar "As thou dost Invade, so also must thou Invite!" notion really dates only from the War on Terror. And even calling it a notion, as if it were publicly discussed and approved gives it too much credit, since it occurred sub rosa and is still overwhelming unpopular despite epic propagandizing efforts.

    So, no, I don't think there was any history from which to expect inevitable invitations, nor do I think it is actually so inevitable now. Rather there is at most only an implied logic that is never explicitly examined by those promoting it, because they know the implied logic doesn't actually exist.

  106. @Jack D
    @Anonymous

    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel's greatest friend in Congress.

    Everything bad is not the Jews' fault. This one is not even close.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    LOL, everyone knows how much Muslims love Jews. Ilhan Omar is Israel’s greatest friend in Congress.

    Yeah, but sometimes enemies collude to topple whom they presume to be a greater enemy. Isn’t that the whole “Coalition of the Fringes” thesis our host often propounds?

    Everything bad is not the Jews’ fault

    Your take, on the other hand, is that nothing is ever the Jews’ fault.

    Isn’t the truth somewhere in between the two extremes?

  107. @AnotherDad
    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do ... but it's damn close.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill Jones

    Allowing Muslim immigration is not the dumbest thing a nation can do … but it’s damn close.

    The dumbest thing had already been done by then, hence the ADL.

  108. @Twinkie
    @AnotherDad


    Pretty soon … what? Des Moines?
     
    Des Moines has been lost for a good while now. It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    Replies: @Thomm, @Bill Jones

    It even had a black mayor in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s who had grown up in the “southeast bottoms” section of the city.

    Now that’s an area crying out for gentrification.

    • Agree: Twinkie
  109. @Truth
    @bomag

    Neither Taos nor Santa Fe is remotely what one would consider wealthy.

    Replies: @bomag

    Relatively wealthy, for the desert Southwest, with no ports or large trading centers.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @bomag


    The median household income in Taos is $36,360.
     
    https://bestneighborhood.org/household-income-taos-nm/

    Replies: @bomag

  110. @Twinkie
    @Almost Missouri


    As I remember it, many Americans, myself included, supported invading certain very specific places we were led to believe, rightly or wrongly, were responsible for a series of unfortunate events in 2001, and/or might sponsor sequel events, places that might comprise 1% or so of the world. If anyone here was in favor of “invite the world”, they were pretty quiet about it.
     
    Let's be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks. *I* was one of them!

    And, before 9/11, I was a minimal-interventionist ("non-interventionist" is a bit too absolutist) and one of the reasons I liked GW Bush was that he seemed skpetical (at least during the electioneering) of foreign interventions in the way he critiqued both Clinton (overtly) and his own father (subtly).

    I've been open about it here - 9/11 was highly traumatic for me and I lost my mind. So did many of my fellow Americans and we all cheered for invasions, we knew - deep inside - were not mere punitive raids, invasions, we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.

    Well, I am sober now, to be mild about it. But I am not going to pretend that I wasn't drunk before and didn't partake in the Sicilian Expedition of our time. And I think that applies to many, perhaps most Americans, judging from opinion polls of the time.

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Let’s be honest. Many, perhaps most, Americans in the aftermath of 9/11 were looking for some serious ass-kicking of anyone we thought were even remotely related to the attacks.

    If you say so. I was not in the US at the time, so my knowledge of America at that time was largely second-hand. But, as a practical matter, anyone anywhere’s knowledge of anything is almost always largely second-hand (or third- or fourth-hand or worse) anyway, so I don’t know that I was at much of a disadvantage.

    Call me spergy, but I did make a systematic survey of the opinion pages of all the major English-language press outlets in the months after 9/11, and I was surprised and a little dismayed at how uniformly they called for restraint, “outreach”, and various non-responsive responses, since, as mentioned, I thought it was obvious that part of the solution had to be military.

    I gather that you lived and worked in more siloviki circles than I did, so the ass-kickin’ response was likely more pronounced there.

    we should have known from history, that would soon lead to invitations.

    The invade-invite symmetry is a new thing. After WWII, the US was not inundated with German, Japanese and Italian immigrants. There were a few, to be sure, but they tended to be literal rocket scientists and the like. There was no “Refugees Welcome!” public sentiment at that time. The weird syllogism of “we bombed these people, so now we have to let them into our country wholesale” simply didn’t exist.

    Ditto with the much smaller Korean War. There are today many Korean immigrants, but most Korean immigration came at least a generation after the War, as part of the general increase in immigration rather than with any specific reference to the 1950-1952 conflict.

    Even the Vietnam War did not immediately produce much Vietnamese immigration, though there was arguably some guilt/shame-induced immigration allowed to trickle in over the following decades.

    In fact, I would argue that the peculiar “As thou dost Invade, so also must thou Invite!” notion really dates only from the War on Terror. And even calling it a notion, as if it were publicly discussed and approved gives it too much credit, since it occurred sub rosa and is still overwhelming unpopular despite epic propagandizing efforts.

    So, no, I don’t think there was any history from which to expect inevitable invitations, nor do I think it is actually so inevitable now. Rather there is at most only an implied logic that is never explicitly examined by those promoting it, because they know the implied logic doesn’t actually exist.

  111. @Thomm
    @Twinkie

    Mr. Twinkacetti wrote :


    in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s
     
    When you make the same apostrophe mistake twice in the space of five words, it means you don't know the grammatical rule. One mistake is just a typo, but two in quick succession reveals an insufficient command of the English language.

    Correct : 90s and the early 2000s

    Incorrect : 90’s and the early 2000’s

    Following that, just a few words later we see :


    “southeast bottoms”
     
    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double. Not to mention capitalization.

    Correct : 'Southeast Bottoms'

    Incorrect : "southeast bottoms" (as you wrote)

    Your punctuation and grammatical skills are terrible, I must say.

    I understand that you are in an ESL situation and Korean is a very different language so the linguistic distance you had to cover is immense, but you may want to dial your grandstanding back until you master grammatical basics, particularly after having had 40+ years in an English-speaking country during which to get up to speed.

    https://youtu.be/MD53hwAN5DY

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Boomthorkell

    “southeast bottoms”

    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double.

    What? I never heard of this. What rule is this? AFAIK single quotation marks are a British affectation, used in more robust American English only to identify a quotation within a quotation.

    • Agree: bomag
  112. Crazy Afghan dude (and who wouldn’t want to have a bunch of guys move into their town from f&*^ing Afghanistan?) kills some other Muslin dudes because his daughter married some other Muslim dude form the wrong sect.

    Biden’s (social media team’s) reaction on Twitter: “These hateful attacks have no place in America.”

    For once, he and I agree. What would be the easiest way to have fewer of these hateful attacks in America, I wonder?

    • Agree: Rob McX
  113. @Almost Missouri
    @Mr. Anon

    If my understanding of the latest permutations of things academia-ic is correct, a "Center" means that someone gave some money (not necessarily their own) for something (not necessarily the thing that the Center actually does). The university will staff that "Center" with as many faculty as it takes to soak up the funding while they carry on whatever it is they would do anyway. Note that a single faculty member can easily soak up seven figures or more of funding.

    Also note that no person of goodwill and healthy inclinations should under any circumstances donate any money to any mainstream academia. No matter how conservative, normal and pure your intentions, your money will be repurposed to advance the Woke Borg. And they say that alchemy died after the Middle Ages...

    This article describes some examples:

    https://www.cspicenter.com/p/41-lessons-from-the-frontlines-of#details

    (The "C" in "CSPI" does stand for "Center". While ironic, in this case it is not an academic scam.)

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Recently Based

    Exactly right.

    At an Ivy-level university “center” = \$10 – 25MM; “institute” = \$25 – 100MM; “school” >= \$100MM

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  114. @bomag
    @Truth

    Relatively wealthy, for the desert Southwest, with no ports or large trading centers.

    Replies: @Truth

    The median household income in Taos is \$36,360.

    https://bestneighborhood.org/household-income-taos-nm/

    • Replies: @bomag
    @Truth

    Thanks.

    Rich in culture, then.

    I've always thought of Taos as the land of artists sitting at the coffee shop. I figured they had rich benefactors living nearby. Maybe not.

  115. @Thomm
    @Twinkie

    Mr. Twinkacetti wrote :


    in the late ‘90’s and the early 2000’s
     
    When you make the same apostrophe mistake twice in the space of five words, it means you don't know the grammatical rule. One mistake is just a typo, but two in quick succession reveals an insufficient command of the English language.

    Correct : 90s and the early 2000s

    Incorrect : 90’s and the early 2000’s

    Following that, just a few words later we see :


    “southeast bottoms”
     
    That is supposed to be in single quotation marks, not double. Not to mention capitalization.

    Correct : 'Southeast Bottoms'

    Incorrect : "southeast bottoms" (as you wrote)

    Your punctuation and grammatical skills are terrible, I must say.

    I understand that you are in an ESL situation and Korean is a very different language so the linguistic distance you had to cover is immense, but you may want to dial your grandstanding back until you master grammatical basics, particularly after having had 40+ years in an English-speaking country during which to get up to speed.

    https://youtu.be/MD53hwAN5DY

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Boomthorkell

    I mean, if your only response is to critique his apostrophe use, it must mean the rest of his argument is too powerful for a response.

    • Replies: @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    Your reading comprehension is terrible. I am not disputing that Des Moines had a black mayor, and who cares if there was one 20 years ago. I am simply pointing out how a foreigner still has bad grammar despite his over-the-top self-praise.

    Plus, you have bigger problems to worry about. I recall than when asked if you would rather have sex with a white man or the prettiest mulatto woman in the world, you chose the white man. No wonder you people can't infiltrate normal, heterosexual society.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

  116. @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    I mean, if your only response is to critique his apostrophe use, it must mean the rest of his argument is too powerful for a response.

    Replies: @Thomm

    Your reading comprehension is terrible. I am not disputing that Des Moines had a black mayor, and who cares if there was one 20 years ago. I am simply pointing out how a foreigner still has bad grammar despite his over-the-top self-praise.

    Plus, you have bigger problems to worry about. I recall than when asked if you would rather have sex with a white man or the prettiest mulatto woman in the world, you chose the white man. No wonder you people can’t infiltrate normal, heterosexual society.

    • Replies: @Boomthorkell
    @Thomm

    Lol, oh man, I forgot it's this guy. I only remembered his reasonable comments about Trump and good American objectives.

    I'll tell him hwat, though. I enjoy women in most (attractive) forms. People shouldn't answer this question though because it is a kind of gay little schoolboy trap argument, answering which would render the answer spiritually and physically submissive (gay). He hates nationalism, which is fine. I get it. He's a spiritually cucked American, and heritage Americans don't mean shit to him. No country or culture should pursue healthy policies because it would immediately render them homosexual, right ; )

    Russia and China...really opening themselves up for that hard sodomy, unlike our amazingly straight EU and San Francisco.

    Lol.

  117. @Truth
    @bomag


    The median household income in Taos is $36,360.
     
    https://bestneighborhood.org/household-income-taos-nm/

    Replies: @bomag

    Thanks.

    Rich in culture, then.

    I’ve always thought of Taos as the land of artists sitting at the coffee shop. I figured they had rich benefactors living nearby. Maybe not.

  118. @Thomm
    @Boomthorkell

    Your reading comprehension is terrible. I am not disputing that Des Moines had a black mayor, and who cares if there was one 20 years ago. I am simply pointing out how a foreigner still has bad grammar despite his over-the-top self-praise.

    Plus, you have bigger problems to worry about. I recall than when asked if you would rather have sex with a white man or the prettiest mulatto woman in the world, you chose the white man. No wonder you people can't infiltrate normal, heterosexual society.

    Replies: @Boomthorkell

    Lol, oh man, I forgot it’s this guy. I only remembered his reasonable comments about Trump and good American objectives.

    I’ll tell him hwat, though. I enjoy women in most (attractive) forms. People shouldn’t answer this question though because it is a kind of gay little schoolboy trap argument, answering which would render the answer spiritually and physically submissive (gay). He hates nationalism, which is fine. I get it. He’s a spiritually cucked American, and heritage Americans don’t mean shit to him. No country or culture should pursue healthy policies because it would immediately render them homosexual, right ; )

    Russia and China…really opening themselves up for that hard sodomy, unlike our amazingly straight EU and San Francisco.

    Lol.

  119. @Chris Mallory
    @Franz


    Irish daddy and a Polish mommy. Finally, the pot melted.
     
    That you use "Irish" and "Polish" instead of "American" means that the "melting pot" is nothing but a myth. No, they are not Americans and never will be.

    Replies: @Rocko

    Neither are you. Wouldn’t be surprised if your family descended from filthy Scot scum.

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