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  1. Women and gays love that stuff. Men not so much.

    • Agree: Cagey Beast
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    So did the prayer work? Are white people now forgiven?

    If so, all this reparations stuff is moot.
  2. Problem is, zero black people would show up for an event like that. Guessing all her supporters had to leave the building and mob the keynote speaker of the nearest republican meeting.

  3. Daily reminder that US white liberals are deeply damaged goods.

    I view them basically as passive victims of decades of systematic anti-white vitriol och scapegoating by the jewish press. They have internalised this fully.

    • LOL: IHTG
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Social desirability bias.

    People give pollsters the answers that they want to hear.

    From my experience, White liberals have no particular racial bias. Under normal circumstances, they'd be at zero. However, due to Jewish control of the media/intelligentsia, White liberals feel that they have to show contrition about their racial heritage.

    White conservatives are ethnocentric to some extent, but they often hide it because White racial pride is extremely demonized in today's America. A lot of White conservative support of overseas wars is based on racial pride. A lot of White conservative support of Israel (which they think is a White pro-Christian outpost in the Middle Eastern) is due to racial pride. If White conservatives spent more time reading and less time watching the FOX News propaganda feed, they'd realize an immigration moratorium (combined with some type of pro-natalist policy similar to what exists in Israel) would be infinitely more helpful to them than cheering on Israeli aggression.
    , @The Alarmist
    It's called the Stockholm Syndrome.

    Here's a short primer on the topic:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-6VkeBv3G0

    Here's One Direction's take; please shoot me before I play it again.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGYyTw9RIa8

    , @James Braxton
    Most white liberals in America belong to some subgroup (Jewish, Irish Catholic, homosexuals, etc.) who see themselves as different from the traditional white American "in group". I suspect that if the question were asked about their specific group the in group bias would be similar to the other groups.

    Their bias is really against us, not against themselves.
  4. Marianne Williamson is polling at 1% in the Democratic primary. She’s a New Age hippy who preaches love. So, no, not current year. Not current year by any means.

    Williamson, by the way, is ((()))). So that’s something else to factor in.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.
  5. She just shot to the top of my Dem nomination list – can you see her and Trump debating? – peak crazy!

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.
    , @Stephen Paul Foster
    "She just shot to the top of my Dem nomination list ..."

    Me too! I'd especially love to hear her reveal her Cabinet appointments: Secretary of Defense, Oprah, State, Deepak Chopra.....
  6. • Replies: @PhysicistDave

    You're a lamp; God is the electricity. You're a faucet; God is the water. You're a toilet: ALLOW the flow.
     
    (Thanks to a friend -- who'd rather not be named.)
    , @Kyle
    I’d beam my love into her space station.
  7. Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel “Sam” Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father’s original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston’s Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]

    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?
     
    Is nothing sacred? I've known Jews named Smith, but Wilson, Williams , and Williamson should be off-limits.
    , @Lot
    “How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?”

    That’s the Ukrainian or Russian spelling of the very common and sometimes noble Polish surname Wiśniowiecki, which is itself from wisnia = cherry tree.

    It isn’t a Jewish name to begin with, more like the Polish equivalent of Appleton.

    , @Craig Nelsen

    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?
     
    He's an immigration lawyer. If 26-year-old gang members are "unaccompanied children" and a chance to increase one's consumption level is "political asylum", Williamson and Vishnevetsky are exactly the same word.
    , @Anon 2
    ‘Vishnevetsky’ sounds like a modified form of the Polish surname ‘Wiśniowiecki,’
    which was well known in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, a vast territory
    encompassing Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, and western Ukraine, to use today’s
    terms. After the Jews were expelled from Western Europe, by 1550 90% of the
    world’s Ashkenazi Jews ended up in the Commonwealth, a highly decentralized
    republic. With the exception of some remaining Khazar Jews, Jews were not allowed
    to live in Russia proper (i.e., Moscow, SPB, etc) until 1917.

    Years ago I read that while in college (around 1970) she dedicated herself to seducing
    and sleeping with every professor she found interesting. After she dropped out of
    college, she moved to New York where for awhile her lifestyle could be described as
    dominated by sex, drugs, and rock ‘n roll. People who remember her from her
    younger days say that despite her short stature she offended and alienated a lot of
    people with her volcanic temper.

    , @Henry's Cat
    In Scrabble, you're allowed to change all your letters, in one go. Do you want Jews to have less rights than a board game?
    , @Anon 2
    Re: Williamson’s surname

    How do you get Netanyahu from Mileikowski?

    Netanyahu’s father was born and raised in Poland, and his
    original name was Mileikowski.
    , @Anonymous
    mimesis. useful to extract resources. heat gets to hot you get out of dodge and your back ivan vishenetsky
    , @MBlanc46
    I don’t know the transformation, but this information explains a lot about her.
  8. Forget Lincoln-Douglas a Marianne Williamson vs. TRUMP presidential debate would be the greatest debate in American history.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  9. “Will no one rid me of this turbulent Sailer?”

    “We will. We will inundate him with so many tasty morsels of iSteve style news that he will expire himself through sheer exhaustion.”

    • LOL: Old Prude
  10. What’s with the guy at 0:38? Does he think ants are crawling over his arms? I wonder how many people who show up at her events are deeply disturbed. The book A Course in Miracles that Williamsons teachings are based on are notes a psychologist took while she was having schizoid hallucinations.

    • Replies: @anon

    I wonder how many people who show up at her events are deeply disturbed.
     
    These are the kind of people who followed Jim Jones to Jonestown.
  11. How is she not higher in the polls?

  12. Here’s the tweet:

    Linking to this video:

  13. @Curious
    Daily reminder that US white liberals are deeply damaged goods.

    https://i.imgur.com/WlxZsDU.jpg

    I view them basically as passive victims of decades of systematic anti-white vitriol och scapegoating by the jewish press. They have internalised this fully.

    Social desirability bias.

    People give pollsters the answers that they want to hear.

    From my experience, White liberals have no particular racial bias. Under normal circumstances, they’d be at zero. However, due to Jewish control of the media/intelligentsia, White liberals feel that they have to show contrition about their racial heritage.

    White conservatives are ethnocentric to some extent, but they often hide it because White racial pride is extremely demonized in today’s America. A lot of White conservative support of overseas wars is based on racial pride. A lot of White conservative support of Israel (which they think is a White pro-Christian outpost in the Middle Eastern) is due to racial pride. If White conservatives spent more time reading and less time watching the FOX News propaganda feed, they’d realize an immigration moratorium (combined with some type of pro-natalist policy similar to what exists in Israel) would be infinitely more helpful to them than cheering on Israeli aggression.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    The problem is the nonwhites taking advantage of pro-natalist policies.
    , @Anonymous
    Yes, "white guilt" is a misnomer-- if you go to the mid-size municipalities actually run by the whitelib bourgeoisie, e.g. Boulder, Santa Fe, both Portlands, they're quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior. It's just that a key component of this standard is *being seen* as penitential and ostentatiously grieved over the supposedly malevolent workings of White evil spirits.

    The appearance for mutual solidarity is what's important, they don't sincerely buy into this atonement show.
  14. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:

    FWIW, she’s beating Beto, Cory Booker, and Gillibrand in the polls right now:

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/new-hampshire-poll-has-williamson-polling-ahead-of-booker-gillibrand-and-orourke/

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    To begin with, Marianne Williamson saw a jump of 1.5 points, putting her at 2% and is polling ahead of Booker, Gillibrand, Gabbard, Inslee, and O’Rourke (who polled at 0%)
     
    I guess Fake Mexicans don't sell in New Hampshire.
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/new-hampshire-poll-has-williamson-polling-ahead-of-booker-gillibrand-and-orourke/
  15. She is invited to the cookout
    This should be mandatory

    I made my white male students do this at my old teaching job befits I was fired fur several reasons it is the rug thigh Gucci and it shies Black Male dominance

    • LOL: Mr McKenna, 68W58, Alfa158
    • Replies: @22pp22
    You were probably fired for your spelling.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    I was fired fur several reasons it is the rug thigh Gucci
     
    Gucci has left fur behind.

    Gucci Bans Fur: ‘It’s Not Modern’
  16. Lot says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Marianne Williamson is polling at 1% in the Democratic primary. She's a New Age hippy who preaches love. So, no, not current year. Not current year by any means.

    Williamson, by the way, is ((()))). So that's something else to factor in.

    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/

    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”
     
    Wouldn't it be interesting to know how historians arrived at the 6 million number? Yad Vashem counts 3 million, not 6 million, and even they have suggested that the names they have are not fully reliable.
    , @Mark Raven
    So you're saying Marianne is or is not a heebie?
    , @International Jew
    Thanks for the update!
    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer; just as Sailer specializes in bringing stupid NYT articles to our attention and skewering them, a meta-Steve could do the same for the idiocy elsewhere at unz.com.
    , @BenKenobi
    https://www.wikihow.com/images/0/02/Make-a-Kosher-Reuben-Sandwich-Step-9.jpg
    , @vinteuil
    I used to try to inject a note of skepticism into some of those threads, but who needs being mobbed?

    Give the pathological jew-haters free reign, and before long everybody else leaves.
    , @Clyde
    I look at other Unz material but the most readable and sane stuff here is Steve and Derb and Linh Dinh.
    , @Anon000

    Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”
     
    Any questioning of the official narrative makes someone a Holocaust denier. Giraldi said “the so-called holocaust”. In this context so-called would refer to, and question, the use of the term holocaust in describing what took place while alleged would refer to, and question, whether it took place at all.

    Here’s an Orthodox rabbi questioning the 6 million Jews figure (since, he argues, approx. 5 out of 6 were technically or genetically not Jewish). This kind of talk is verboten even if said in Hebrew and in front of fellow Orthodox Jews. It got Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi condemned and ostracized

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2ksLt0amSEQ
    , @kihowi

    indecent and deranged
     
    Not to mention unheard-of, blasphemous and...and...and...un-British!

    Why is this kind of unsubtle sarcasm and old-maid-tut-tutting even necessary? Who cares about the ratio between theories that are probably right and ones that are probably wrong on unz.com? Are we losing points fighting the other websites?

    Personally I like a place that's free enough to include crazies. I like seeing people be wrong, it makes me feel smart.

    , @Rosie

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.
     
    Is there not some sort of middle ground? I mean, being a woman, I certainly understand your concerns. It seems to me that what is needed is not strict limits on what may be discussed, but rather

    high standards
     
    on how it is discussed. Evidence, reason, open-mindedness, civility, etc. would go a long way.
    , @Charles Pewitt
    Ronald Reagan was a complete and total whore for the Wasserman Gang!

    Ron Unz:

    Pat Brown reached the governorship in an upset against Chotiner’s Republican candidate in 1958, and then won reelection against Nixon in 1962, but lost in 1966 to newcomer Ronald Reagan. Reagan’s own political rise had been orchestrated by Hollywood mogul Lew Wasserman of MCA, yet another Chicago transplant. Wasserman together with his mentor Jules Stein also had decades of mob-ties stretching back to Al Capone himself, having regularly employed gangster muscle to strong-arm their business partners and suppress their competitors.

     

    The Bazelon Sisters Have Some Explaining To Do!

    Ron Unz:

    As I have discussed elsewhere, FDR’s desperate attempt to circumvent overwhelming public opposition to America’s involvement in World War II eventually led to his endless 1941 provocations against Japan, which successfully culminated in the attack on Pearl Harbor. Soon afterward, demagogic appeals by politicians and media pundits led much of the public to begin demanding the incarceration of all ethnic Japanese, U.S. citizens or not, and by early 1942 FDR signed an executive order shipping some 120,000 Japanese-Americans off to grim concentration camps, with those individuals sometimes being forced to leave their homes on very short notice. As a result, they lost nearly all the property they had steadily accumulated over two generations, most of which was either seized or otherwise ended up in government hands. Similar government edicts led to the confiscation of numerous German-owned businesses throughout America, many of which had enormously valuable assets.

     


    Within a couple of years, these federal holdings had swelled to include half a million acres of the state’s best farmland, some 1,265 small Japanese-owned hotels, and numerous urban parcels throughout Los Angeles, San Jose, and other cities. In 1942 the federal government estimated the value of these former Japanese-American properties at around $3 billion in present day dollars, but the huge postwar California economic and population boom would surely have greatly increased the worth of this real estate portfolio by the early 1950s. The business assets and patent holdings of the seized German companies were worth additional billions.

     


    Following the end of the war, all this property needed to be sold off, and powerful Chicago interests recognized this tremendous opportunity. The 1946 elections had produced a crushing national defeat for the ruling Democrats, with the Republicans regaining control of both houses of Congress for the first time since 1932. President Truman thus faced a desperate battle for reelection, and Chicago’s powerful political machine deployed its considerable political clout to place the sales process in the hands of David L. Bazelon, a young Chicago lawyer and leading Democratic fund-raiser with deep Syndicate ties. Bazelon had taken a pay cut of 80% to enter government service, but he soon boasted to the Washington Post that he had become “one of the largest businessmen in the country.” His motive quickly became apparent as he arranged the sale of assets for a fraction of their real value to his circle of Chicago friends and associates, sometimes apparently receiving a secret slice of the lucrative ownership stakes in return.

     

    Bazelon Sisters, Shake It!

    https://youtu.be/qBdv_tqVqkw
    , @AndrewR
    There would be no downside to you stopping trying to subvert the alt-right with your Jewish Supremacism.
  17. @Laurence Whelk
    She just shot to the top of my Dem nomination list - can you see her and Trump debating? - peak crazy!

    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would’ve been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the “crazy” level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it’ll ever happen.

    It’s interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as “moderate.” It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of “liberal media” isn’t always as true as you might think.

    • Agree: Lot, Thea
    • Replies: @Lot
    “If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would’ve been a vastly better president than Bush.”

    Better than W is a pretty low bar to meet, but she definitely does.

    She’s pretty good looking for 67 too. Where’s a good place to buy jojoba and tea tree oil?

    “while [reparations] inflicting zero casualties or injuries.”

    Think it through a bit. It wouldn’t be as bad as Iraq, but there’d definitely be some injuries.

    , @ben tillman

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would’ve been a vastly better president than Bush.
     
    Yet you decided not to present the information that would enable us to fairly compare them.

    Immigration is all that matters, and you said nothing about it.

    , @Laurence Whelk

    Something to think about before you discuss the “crazy” level of the current year.
     
    OK - I’ll skip over all the assumptions made in your post and just go straight to my contention that anyone who wants to be President of the United States most certainly suffers from a collection of cognitive and personality disorders that in my unsophisticated youth would have been assigned the simple yet concise blanket description of “crazy”.

    The country is lost at this point - if you’ve been reading this blog - and plenty of others - for a while that’s clear. Everything that could have been done to save it was left undone. I’m just trying to get the best entertainment value I can during the inevitable decline and fall.
    , @Laurence Whelk

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).
     
    I wonder how many innocent huwite peepul have been murdered or maimed or terrorized domestically by our vibrant citizens since 2003? Maybe the billions/trillions would have been better spent defeating the enemy within.

    And if you think there is any reparations plan or dollar amount that the fellas will accept and say “ok, whitey, we good now” “let’s let bygones be bygones, we friends now”, you’re not paying attention. As soon as they run through that cash - if any of it actually gets down to the street negro - and fail again, they’ll be back for more.
    , @Oleaginous Outrager

    Reparations would be settled.
     
    You're completely delusional. Reparations would be paid, spent, and the hands would be out, again.
    , @vinteuil
    In, say, 2003, you didn't have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change - i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens - who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we're all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.
    , @Altai
    That amount of money won't be near the mark to change much for black America, meanwhile the implication of reparations is that white America is now square with black America. It's not an idea for implementation, it's power is in never being achieved but in creating a wedge issue to get out the black vote. It's not a debate about reparations and everyone knows this.
    , @Lurker
    Isn't it likely that the Iraq war would still have been undertaken plus reparations?
    , @c matt
    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations.

    I wonder what the percentage would be if the poll was

    Would you support reparations for blacks for past slavery

    a) if those accepting reparation payments agree to repatriation to Africa
    b) in exchange for repealing all affirmative action and discrimination laws
    c) under some other condition(s)
    e) never
  18. OFF TOPIC

    Uber will tie executive compensation to meeting diversity goals

    POSTED 10:54 PM, JULY 15, 2019,

    BY CNN WIRE

    Uber’s workforce may still be mostly white men, but the company says it is taking new measures to diversify its staff, especially managerial roles.

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    For the first time, Uber is setting some diversity and inclusion goals for 2022 that will be tied to the compensation of several of its senior executives — CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, chief financial officer Nelson Chai, chief legal officer Tony West, and chief people officer Nikki Krishnamurthy.

    Uber’s global headcount has grown tremendously in the past year: It had approximately 26,000 employees at the end of March 2019, up from 18,000 the year prior. This number does not include drivers, whom Uber does not classify as employees but instead, as independent contractors. Uber had 3.9 million drivers globally at the end of 2018.

    Uber is also testing a “Rooney Rule” approach for mid-career hires. The original National Football League policy required teams to interview minority candidates for coaching and operations-level roles. In the report, Uber chief diversity officer Bo Young Lee wrote that the goal is to expand the Rooney Rule approach to all its hires in the future.

    The company said it also plans to dig into more granular data in the coming months about its global workforce. It is collecting the information through a global self-ID survey where employees can voluntarily share information about their gender identity, veteran status, disabilities and caregiving status, in addition to answering questions about race, sexuality and socioeconomic status.

    However, Uber didn’t say in the report how many of its workers are on foreign work visas. Last year, it said 16% of US employees had work visas and that they represented 90 countries.

    Speaking generally about diversity reports, Allison Scott, chief research officer at the Kapor Center, told CNN Business that it is important companies continue to release reports so the public can know their demographics, and whether progress is being made.

    “The lack of significant progress indicates how deeply ingrained inequity in tech actually is, and indicates comprehensive approaches — not quick fixes — are needed,” Scott said. “We must ask ourselves, what are the negative consequences to companies when numbers don’t change or hiring goals are not reached?” (Kapor Center’s investment arm, Kapor Capital, invested in Uber in 2010.)

    🙂

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    To answer Ms. Scott, they somehow, despite all "evidence" do well, without doing good.
    , @Digital Samizdat
    Well, if you can't make any money, might as well change the world.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lensherman/2019/06/02/can-uber-ever-be-profitable/
    , @Lot
    “White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%)”

    Talk about a legacy majority.
    , @Counterinsurgency
    Reminds me of a scene in J. T. Bass's book _Half Past Human_.

    All chordate life on Earth (except humans and rats) has been eaten by humans, algae has gone extinct through over harvesting, and humanity is the only source of high quality protein (rather like Polynesia before the Europeans arrived).
    The tribal Rebel Army has invaded the Hive (all of Earth's surface, holding about a trillion (10^12) humans) and is having logistics problems. They solve these problems by waiting at the subway stations and killing all the humans who arrive, then dumping the bodies into the Hive's own protein extracting equipment (everybody is a cannibal from sheer necessity, rats being a delicacy and rat hunting a sport).

    The book captured quite a few of the realities of urban medicine (Nurse asked old disoriented man why he hasn't committed suicide and spared the world of his useless existence, the old guy backhands her and leaves, nurse says: "Why did he have to hit me? I was just using the standard suicide induction protocol!"), but the subway scene becoming real is going a bit too far.

    Funny thing is that I've seen something a lot like that among the _licensed_ cab drivers of Arlington, VA -- so far, just an occasiona highly antagonistic attitude.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] J. T. Bass.
    _Half Past Human_
    1st ed. 1971.
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1773848.Half_Past_Human
    , @FPD72
    Whoever at CNN wrote this article doesn’t understand what “most” means.

    And since non-Hispanic whites are 63% of the population, if white males are 30.1% of the staff, they are slightly underrepresented. So I think we can add “innumerate” to the list of writer-describing adjectives.
    , @Jack D
    Uber is toast now. Their founder, Kalanick, was ousted in a Me Too palace coup (Me Too is very useful for getting rid of high T alpha male entrepreneurs who tend to grab what they want) and PC brown nosing females and S. Asians have been put in charge. It's OK to have these folks in your HR department or as CFO or somewhere where they can do limited damage but promoting them to CEO is the kiss of death, especially for a company that has not yet matured to the point where it can run on autopilot without someone with the vision thing at the helm. Uber never made the transition to actually making a profit and now without Kalanick at the helm they probably never will figure it out.
    , @ben tillman

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.
     
    Which means that white men are actually underrepresented while Asians are vastly overrepresented, yet CNN tells an entirely different story.
  19. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    “If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would’ve been a vastly better president than Bush.”

    Better than W is a pretty low bar to meet, but she definitely does.

    She’s pretty good looking for 67 too. Where’s a good place to buy jojoba and tea tree oil?

    “while [reparations] inflicting zero casualties or injuries.”

    Think it through a bit. It wouldn’t be as bad as Iraq, but there’d definitely be some injuries.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Seriously. She's one of the best looking 67 year olds that I've ever seen. Good job avoiding the wall.

    I wouldn't mind voting for her for House or Senate. Or appointing her to a secretary position.

    We need more diversity of opinion in DC. I think some her hippie stuff represents a huge improvement on the pro-militarization, pro-finance, pro-business consensus that we have right now.

    Unfortunately, given media bias, she's being portrayed as "kooky." Like her ideas are too weird to work.

    Read through her site. Her ideas aren't bad. https://www.marianne2020.com/issues

    I don't neccessarily agree with her on everything, but at least she's not spouting the tax cuts and deregulation BS that Republican snake oil salesman have been pushing for the last 40 years.
  20. @Altai

    Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel "Sam" Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father's original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston's Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]
     
    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    Is nothing sacred? I’ve known Jews named Smith, but Wilson, Williams , and Williamson should be off-limits.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "Wilson, Williams , and Williamson should be off-limits"

    In the UK one of the biggest promoters of 'euthanasia', often on the BBC, was an MP called Evan Harris, but he wasn't a Welshman.

    When he lost his seat he complained that opponents habitually calling him "Dr Death" may have influenced voters.
    , @Jack D
    The Nazis had the same problem and they found the solution long ago. No I don't mean THAT solution. One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not. HOWEVER (and this shows the brilliance of German logic, which even the Nazis could not suppress) you didn't have to do this if your first name was already Israel or Sara.

    Now some folks around here try to do the same with ((parentheses)) but I think that the Nazis had the better solution in this case. There is really very little new in anti-Semitic technology - the kvetching (if I may be so bold) about the Jews in 2019 is no different than that of 1939 or 1899.
  21. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would’ve been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Yet you decided not to present the information that would enable us to fairly compare them.

    Immigration is all that matters, and you said nothing about it.

    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123
    Immigration is not all that matters by any means. Especially not if your country goes bankrupt through overspending on foreign wars.

    However, since you're interested in comparing the immigration positions of Bush and Williamson, I will present the facts.

    For the most part, Williamson and Bush are similar on immigration. However, there is one HUGE difference.

    In 2000 and 2004, Bush supported amnesty, weak border enforcement, and the existing levels of legal immigration. He also supported an extreme increase in foreign worker visas that would've increased migration by "millions" per year.

    Steve blogged about this at the time.

    https://vdare.com/articles/the-five-billion

    The Bush Administration officials announced in January 2004 that the President's guest worker plan will allow anyone in the world with a minimum wage job offer from an American employer to move here, and bring along dependents. Contemplating this, it struck me (among other things) that our leaders must be clueless about how many people actually want to move to the U.S…
     
    Williamson supports the above, minus the extreme increase in foreign worker visas. So she's a pretty standard candidate whose migration views would be mainstream in either party, while Bush was an exceptionally pro-migration outlier. Perhaps the most pro-migration president in the history of the country.

    So if really want to compare them on immigration, I just presented you with a way to do that.
  22. Anonymous[409] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    Wouldn’t it be interesting to know how historians arrived at the 6 million number? Yad Vashem counts 3 million, not 6 million, and even they have suggested that the names they have are not fully reliable.

    • Replies: @Henry's Cat
    The Yad Vashem website says:

    Yad Vashem, together with its partners, has collected and recorded the names and biographical details of millions of victims of systematic anti-Jewish persecution during the Holocaust (Shoah) period. 4.8 of the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis and their accomplices are commemorated here.
     
    Shouldn't you check these things first?
  23. @Altai

    Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel "Sam" Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father's original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston's Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]
     
    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    “How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?”

    That’s the Ukrainian or Russian spelling of the very common and sometimes noble Polish surname Wiśniowiecki, which is itself from wisnia = cherry tree.

    It isn’t a Jewish name to begin with, more like the Polish equivalent of Appleton.

    • Replies: @Altai
    Ah so the V is pronounced like a W, makes more sense.
  24. Video from Marianne Williamson campaign event where she has white attendees go to the nearest black person and then recite a prayer of apology.

    Video from Wayne LaPierre rally where he has white participants go to the nearest black person and offer him a free loaded handgun, while reciting the Declaration of Right of 1689.

    • Replies: @Digital Samizdat
    Do you a link for this? Would love to see it ...
  25. She is a horror show, insanely anti-white.

    Viciously anti-white.

    Not a lover; a bigtime hater.

    • Replies: @Alden
    They all are insanely anti White. It’s not just jews either. Every White college employee from the presidents of the top 10 to the TAs and part timers all insanely anti White. Nancy Pelosi with a White husband 5 children and many White grandchildren is insanely anti White.
  26. holy F. even this chick is one of (them). that’s just crazy insane. even i didn’t suspect her.

    what in the F.

    we’re surrounded on all sides.

    • LOL: jim jones
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Son, I like you.
  27. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    Something to think about before you discuss the “crazy” level of the current year.

    OK – I’ll skip over all the assumptions made in your post and just go straight to my contention that anyone who wants to be President of the United States most certainly suffers from a collection of cognitive and personality disorders that in my unsophisticated youth would have been assigned the simple yet concise blanket description of “crazy”.

    The country is lost at this point – if you’ve been reading this blog – and plenty of others – for a while that’s clear. Everything that could have been done to save it was left undone. I’m just trying to get the best entertainment value I can during the inevitable decline and fall.

  28. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    So you’re saying Marianne is or is not a heebie?

  29. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    I wonder how many innocent huwite peepul have been murdered or maimed or terrorized domestically by our vibrant citizens since 2003? Maybe the billions/trillions would have been better spent defeating the enemy within.

    And if you think there is any reparations plan or dollar amount that the fellas will accept and say “ok, whitey, we good now” “let’s let bygones be bygones, we friends now”, you’re not paying attention. As soon as they run through that cash – if any of it actually gets down to the street negro – and fail again, they’ll be back for more.

    • Agree: bomag
  30. @ben tillman

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would’ve been a vastly better president than Bush.
     
    Yet you decided not to present the information that would enable us to fairly compare them.

    Immigration is all that matters, and you said nothing about it.

    Immigration is not all that matters by any means. Especially not if your country goes bankrupt through overspending on foreign wars.

    However, since you’re interested in comparing the immigration positions of Bush and Williamson, I will present the facts.

    For the most part, Williamson and Bush are similar on immigration. However, there is one HUGE difference.

    In 2000 and 2004, Bush supported amnesty, weak border enforcement, and the existing levels of legal immigration. He also supported an extreme increase in foreign worker visas that would’ve increased migration by “millions” per year.

    Steve blogged about this at the time.

    https://vdare.com/articles/the-five-billion

    The Bush Administration officials announced in January 2004 that the President’s guest worker plan will allow anyone in the world with a minimum wage job offer from an American employer to move here, and bring along dependents. Contemplating this, it struck me (among other things) that our leaders must be clueless about how many people actually want to move to the U.S…

    Williamson supports the above, minus the extreme increase in foreign worker visas. So she’s a pretty standard candidate whose migration views would be mainstream in either party, while Bush was an exceptionally pro-migration outlier. Perhaps the most pro-migration president in the history of the country.

    So if really want to compare them on immigration, I just presented you with a way to do that.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    George W was more interested in maintaining peace at family gatherings.
    , @HammerJack

    Immigration is not all that matters by any means.
     
    No, it's not all that matters, but it's the one issue which--if mishandled--renders all the others irrelevant. And we've been mishandling it since the 1960s. So all of the other matters which occupy everyone's attention are equivalent to rearranging the deck chairs now.
  31. @Lot
    “If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would’ve been a vastly better president than Bush.”

    Better than W is a pretty low bar to meet, but she definitely does.

    She’s pretty good looking for 67 too. Where’s a good place to buy jojoba and tea tree oil?

    “while [reparations] inflicting zero casualties or injuries.”

    Think it through a bit. It wouldn’t be as bad as Iraq, but there’d definitely be some injuries.

    Seriously. She’s one of the best looking 67 year olds that I’ve ever seen. Good job avoiding the wall.

    I wouldn’t mind voting for her for House or Senate. Or appointing her to a secretary position.

    We need more diversity of opinion in DC. I think some her hippie stuff represents a huge improvement on the pro-militarization, pro-finance, pro-business consensus that we have right now.

    Unfortunately, given media bias, she’s being portrayed as “kooky.” Like her ideas are too weird to work.

    Read through her site. Her ideas aren’t bad. https://www.marianne2020.com/issues

    I don’t neccessarily agree with her on everything, but at least she’s not spouting the tax cuts and deregulation BS that Republican snake oil salesman have been pushing for the last 40 years.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    And I've often thought that we need more diversity of opinion in these threads, too. Thank you for some worthwhile discussion.
  32. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    Thanks for the update!
    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer; just as Sailer specializes in bringing stupid NYT articles to our attention and skewering them, a meta-Steve could do the same for the idiocy elsewhere at unz.com.

    • Agree: ic1000
    • Replies: @vinteuil

    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer
     
    Don't know if you were serious, but this is actually a great idea.

    "Meta-Steve" - maybe with diaries?
    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    Maybe Meta-Steve could explain Andre Vltchek.
    , @anon
    Thanks for the update!

    It is interesting how some people express great certainty of the precise details of whole periods of history and of the inner motivations of the human beings who did in fact live during them, despite these people not having lived then and having no direct evidence at all.
    , @David
    What's stopping you?
    , @J.Ross
    Yeah cause those are totally the same thing.
  33. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

  34. more like The Current Year:

    when Notre Dame burns down and 2 months later nobody can explain how or why.

    • Replies: @Alden
    I saw something that claimed the fire department traced the fire to a workers cigarette. Yeah right.

    There’s been reports of dozens of vandalism incidents in French churches this year.
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    What about Vegas?

    'A guy' shoots almost 500 people at a country music festival, with a setup that suggests very careful and conscious premeditation, but they have no idea why he did it?

    Start with the victims. Who would want to kill hundreds of country music fans? In October 2017, at the fever pitch of the Trump victory tantrum by the America-hating bolshevik left?

    Vegas, Notre Dame, the evasive coverage of the ICE attack. The 'we may never know why' narrative is the big tip off.
  35. The guy took down the tweet Steve posted since it was from 2016 not this year.

  36. Since you sent me down that Twitter rabbit-hole, I offer you proof of one of your fav-o-rite “conspiracies”:

    • Replies: @Alden
    AIDS is very very easily preventable. Just keep your thing out of that thing.
  37. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    Reparations would be settled.

    You’re completely delusional. Reparations would be paid, spent, and the hands would be out, again.

    • Agree: Realist, Laurence Whelk
    • Replies: @JohnnyWalker123

    Reparations would be paid, spent, and the hands would be out, again.
     
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    You're correct about this, but the people agitating for more reparations wouldn't neccessarily be who you might think.

    Watch 1:00-1:10.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczW1gIRBjY

    I actually don't think reparations will ever pass. 81% of Whites oppose the idea. That's why even liberal Democrats (like Obama) never proposed reparations.

    Reparations actually isn't the worst idea out there by any means, as it's similar to the "universal basic income" plan that's being advocated by many intellectuals and political candidates (like Andrew Yang). It'd have a highly stimulative impact on the economy. The major problem with reparations mainly would be that it's too limited. Ideally, it'd be expanded to Whites and other races too.
  38. @JohnnyWalker123
    Social desirability bias.

    People give pollsters the answers that they want to hear.

    From my experience, White liberals have no particular racial bias. Under normal circumstances, they'd be at zero. However, due to Jewish control of the media/intelligentsia, White liberals feel that they have to show contrition about their racial heritage.

    White conservatives are ethnocentric to some extent, but they often hide it because White racial pride is extremely demonized in today's America. A lot of White conservative support of overseas wars is based on racial pride. A lot of White conservative support of Israel (which they think is a White pro-Christian outpost in the Middle Eastern) is due to racial pride. If White conservatives spent more time reading and less time watching the FOX News propaganda feed, they'd realize an immigration moratorium (combined with some type of pro-natalist policy similar to what exists in Israel) would be infinitely more helpful to them than cheering on Israeli aggression.

    The problem is the nonwhites taking advantage of pro-natalist policies.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Limit the natalist policies to income tax cuts for US citizens. To take advantage, you have to have enough income to pay income taxes, and actually be reporting it.

    So a $30,000 per kid deduction is worth $7500 per kid if the 25% bracket, $10,000 in the 33% bracket, $0 for unemployeds/min wagers, and $0 for cash business tax cheats.
  39. @Diversity is Great!
    OFF TOPIC

    Uber will tie executive compensation to meeting diversity goals

    POSTED 10:54 PM, JULY 15, 2019,

    BY CNN WIRE

    Uber’s workforce may still be mostly white men, but the company says it is taking new measures to diversify its staff, especially managerial roles.

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    For the first time, Uber is setting some diversity and inclusion goals for 2022 that will be tied to the compensation of several of its senior executives — CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, chief financial officer Nelson Chai, chief legal officer Tony West, and chief people officer Nikki Krishnamurthy.

    Uber’s global headcount has grown tremendously in the past year: It had approximately 26,000 employees at the end of March 2019, up from 18,000 the year prior. This number does not include drivers, whom Uber does not classify as employees but instead, as independent contractors. Uber had 3.9 million drivers globally at the end of 2018.
     


    Uber is also testing a “Rooney Rule” approach for mid-career hires. The original National Football League policy required teams to interview minority candidates for coaching and operations-level roles. In the report, Uber chief diversity officer Bo Young Lee wrote that the goal is to expand the Rooney Rule approach to all its hires in the future.

    The company said it also plans to dig into more granular data in the coming months about its global workforce. It is collecting the information through a global self-ID survey where employees can voluntarily share information about their gender identity, veteran status, disabilities and caregiving status, in addition to answering questions about race, sexuality and socioeconomic status.

    However, Uber didn’t say in the report how many of its workers are on foreign work visas. Last year, it said 16% of US employees had work visas and that they represented 90 countries.
     


    Speaking generally about diversity reports, Allison Scott, chief research officer at the Kapor Center, told CNN Business that it is important companies continue to release reports so the public can know their demographics, and whether progress is being made.

    “The lack of significant progress indicates how deeply ingrained inequity in tech actually is, and indicates comprehensive approaches — not quick fixes — are needed,” Scott said. “We must ask ourselves, what are the negative consequences to companies when numbers don’t change or hiring goals are not reached?” (Kapor Center’s investment arm, Kapor Capital, invested in Uber in 2010.)

     

    :)

    To answer Ms. Scott, they somehow, despite all “evidence” do well, without doing good.

  40. @Tiny Duck
    She is invited to the cookout
    This should be mandatory

    I made my white male students do this at my old teaching job befits I was fired fur several reasons it is the rug thigh Gucci and it shies Black Male dominance

    You were probably fired for your spelling.

  41. @JohnnyWalker123
    Immigration is not all that matters by any means. Especially not if your country goes bankrupt through overspending on foreign wars.

    However, since you're interested in comparing the immigration positions of Bush and Williamson, I will present the facts.

    For the most part, Williamson and Bush are similar on immigration. However, there is one HUGE difference.

    In 2000 and 2004, Bush supported amnesty, weak border enforcement, and the existing levels of legal immigration. He also supported an extreme increase in foreign worker visas that would've increased migration by "millions" per year.

    Steve blogged about this at the time.

    https://vdare.com/articles/the-five-billion

    The Bush Administration officials announced in January 2004 that the President's guest worker plan will allow anyone in the world with a minimum wage job offer from an American employer to move here, and bring along dependents. Contemplating this, it struck me (among other things) that our leaders must be clueless about how many people actually want to move to the U.S…
     
    Williamson supports the above, minus the extreme increase in foreign worker visas. So she's a pretty standard candidate whose migration views would be mainstream in either party, while Bush was an exceptionally pro-migration outlier. Perhaps the most pro-migration president in the history of the country.

    So if really want to compare them on immigration, I just presented you with a way to do that.

    George W was more interested in maintaining peace at family gatherings.

  42. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    I used to try to inject a note of skepticism into some of those threads, but who needs being mobbed?

    Give the pathological jew-haters free reign, and before long everybody else leaves.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @Anon
    "Everyone else" who would be offended by Jew bashing are the 2% Jews and 10% Bible literalists. The first have made their POV loud and clear through other channels. Right on this page, at the top, there's a long speech of a Jewess..

    Given compensation, the 2% would overwhelm everyone else with their "logical" comments.
    , @Bill
    From alexa & the wayback machine, it looks like everybody else has been mostly arriving, on both a relative and absolute basis, for the last few years.
  43. @Diversity is Great!
    OFF TOPIC

    Uber will tie executive compensation to meeting diversity goals

    POSTED 10:54 PM, JULY 15, 2019,

    BY CNN WIRE

    Uber’s workforce may still be mostly white men, but the company says it is taking new measures to diversify its staff, especially managerial roles.

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    For the first time, Uber is setting some diversity and inclusion goals for 2022 that will be tied to the compensation of several of its senior executives — CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, chief financial officer Nelson Chai, chief legal officer Tony West, and chief people officer Nikki Krishnamurthy.

    Uber’s global headcount has grown tremendously in the past year: It had approximately 26,000 employees at the end of March 2019, up from 18,000 the year prior. This number does not include drivers, whom Uber does not classify as employees but instead, as independent contractors. Uber had 3.9 million drivers globally at the end of 2018.
     


    Uber is also testing a “Rooney Rule” approach for mid-career hires. The original National Football League policy required teams to interview minority candidates for coaching and operations-level roles. In the report, Uber chief diversity officer Bo Young Lee wrote that the goal is to expand the Rooney Rule approach to all its hires in the future.

    The company said it also plans to dig into more granular data in the coming months about its global workforce. It is collecting the information through a global self-ID survey where employees can voluntarily share information about their gender identity, veteran status, disabilities and caregiving status, in addition to answering questions about race, sexuality and socioeconomic status.

    However, Uber didn’t say in the report how many of its workers are on foreign work visas. Last year, it said 16% of US employees had work visas and that they represented 90 countries.
     


    Speaking generally about diversity reports, Allison Scott, chief research officer at the Kapor Center, told CNN Business that it is important companies continue to release reports so the public can know their demographics, and whether progress is being made.

    “The lack of significant progress indicates how deeply ingrained inequity in tech actually is, and indicates comprehensive approaches — not quick fixes — are needed,” Scott said. “We must ask ourselves, what are the negative consequences to companies when numbers don’t change or hiring goals are not reached?” (Kapor Center’s investment arm, Kapor Capital, invested in Uber in 2010.)

     

    :)

    Well, if you can’t make any money, might as well change the world.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/lensherman/2019/06/02/can-uber-ever-be-profitable/

  44. @International Jew
    Thanks for the update!
    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer; just as Sailer specializes in bringing stupid NYT articles to our attention and skewering them, a meta-Steve could do the same for the idiocy elsewhere at unz.com.

    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer

    Don’t know if you were serious, but this is actually a great idea.

    “Meta-Steve” – maybe with diaries?

    • Replies: @Pericles

    “Meta-Steve” – maybe with diaries?

     

    Seems likely it would be The Protocols of the Commenting Elders of Unz.
  45. @Reg Cæsar

    Video from Marianne Williamson campaign event where she has white attendees go to the nearest black person and then recite a prayer of apology.
     
    Video from Wayne LaPierre rally where he has white participants go to the nearest black person and offer him a free loaded handgun, while reciting the Declaration of Right of 1689.

    Do you a link for this? Would love to see it …

  46. @International Jew
    Thanks for the update!
    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer; just as Sailer specializes in bringing stupid NYT articles to our attention and skewering them, a meta-Steve could do the same for the idiocy elsewhere at unz.com.

    Maybe Meta-Steve could explain Andre Vltchek.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Maybe Meta-Steve could explain Andre Vltchek.”

    I see he visited North Korea and then wrote an article called “North Korea, a Land of Human Achievement, Love and Joy.”
  47. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    I look at other Unz material but the most readable and sane stuff here is Steve and Derb and Linh Dinh.

  48. anon[102] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew
    Thanks for the update!
    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer; just as Sailer specializes in bringing stupid NYT articles to our attention and skewering them, a meta-Steve could do the same for the idiocy elsewhere at unz.com.

    Thanks for the update!

    It is interesting how some people express great certainty of the precise details of whole periods of history and of the inner motivations of the human beings who did in fact live during them, despite these people not having lived then and having no direct evidence at all.

    • Agree: Logan
  49. Lot says:
    @Redneck farmer
    The problem is the nonwhites taking advantage of pro-natalist policies.

    Limit the natalist policies to income tax cuts for US citizens. To take advantage, you have to have enough income to pay income taxes, and actually be reporting it.

    So a $30,000 per kid deduction is worth $7500 per kid if the 25% bracket, $10,000 in the 33% bracket, $0 for unemployeds/min wagers, and $0 for cash business tax cheats.

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    Dude, seriously, get elected to Congress. We need you there.
  50. @Altai

    Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel "Sam" Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father's original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston's Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]
     
    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    He’s an immigration lawyer. If 26-year-old gang members are “unaccompanied children” and a chance to increase one’s consumption level is “political asylum”, Williamson and Vishnevetsky are exactly the same word.

  51. @Robert Dolan
    She is a horror show, insanely anti-white.

    Viciously anti-white.

    Not a lover; a bigtime hater.

    They all are insanely anti White. It’s not just jews either. Every White college employee from the presidents of the top 10 to the TAs and part timers all insanely anti White. Nancy Pelosi with a White husband 5 children and many White grandchildren is insanely anti White.

    • Replies: @Malla
    Maybe they are ((cryptos))!!! There are a lot of ((cryptos)) masquerading as pure Euros.
  52. @Lot
    https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Marianne-8.jpeg

    https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Marianne-9-.jpeg

    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/03/62/66/17771920/4/920x920.jpg

    You’re a lamp; God is the electricity. You’re a faucet; God is the water. You’re a toilet: ALLOW the flow.

    (Thanks to a friend — who’d rather not be named.)

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    "You’re a lamp;"

    Isn't this anti-semitic?
  53. @Oleaginous Outrager

    Reparations would be settled.
     
    You're completely delusional. Reparations would be paid, spent, and the hands would be out, again.

    Reparations would be paid, spent, and the hands would be out, again.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  54. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    In, say, 2003, you didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change – i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens – who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we’re all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “In, say, 2003, you didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy”

    Did the people who studied Arabs think that?

    How about in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007? What Iraq really needed was a “surge” of more troops?

    Focusing on 2003 lets Bush and the War Party off the hook for their evil deeds that mostly came after.
    , @PhysicistDave
    vinteuil wrote:

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens – who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.
     
    Well, Chris Hitchens was not stupid exactly, but certainly lacking in judgment.

    When I was a ten-year-old kid in grade school, early in the Vietnam conflict, I held views analogous to those you cite. But, a decade later, I had learned enough history (including what was on the nightly news) to know better.

    I never became a Leftist; I simply became a more consistent (nineteenth-century) classical liberal/libertarian.

    Seminal figures in American history -- Washington, Jefferson, J. Q. Adams, Thoreau, William Graham Sumner, Mark Twain, and many others -- have made the point more eloquently than I could.

    We might still excuse grade-school kids who suffer from a murderously militarist "idealism" about foreign policy.

    But I think we are entitled to expect more of mature adults: if they cannot handle Jefferson or Adams, they could at least read Thoreau or Twain!
    , @Anonymous
    Americans don't do wars, they do crusades. Sometimes this ends badly, and a Nixon/Kissinger needs to come along to inject a dose of realism into U.S. foreign policy, but these people are never welcome and never liked, and as soon as the crisis is over, the crusading instinct comes back with a vengeance.
    , @S. Anonyia
    Yes, you did have to be nuts or at least naive to believe that, even in 2003. Hence why the Bush admin & media had to sell the lie about WMDs and Saddam’s possible connection to Al Qaeda/9/11. That lie wouldn’t have been necessary if people were supportive of regime change out of ignorance.
    , @kihowi
    You'd have to have been a bit slow. 17 year old me came to the opposite conclusion in the 90s after some tv watching, some reading, some contact, and some simple logic.
    , @ben tillman

    In, say, 2003, you didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change – i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.
     

    That's anachronistic. That was a post-hoc justification for the invasion. Before the invasion, the only proffered justification was WMD's (along with propaganda associating Saddam Hussein with the September 11 attacks). That's how the invasion was sold to the public.
    , @Bill

    In, say, 2003, you didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.
     
    You had to be pretty ignorant, though. For example, Africa had been decolonized for decades by 2003.
  55. So did anyone got raped, robbed or shot after da praya?

    Race does not exist – except when whites have to apologize.

    How come nobody in Africa cares about apologizing for slavery and ongoing massacry?

  56. @Curious
    Daily reminder that US white liberals are deeply damaged goods.

    https://i.imgur.com/WlxZsDU.jpg

    I view them basically as passive victims of decades of systematic anti-white vitriol och scapegoating by the jewish press. They have internalised this fully.

    It’s called the Stockholm Syndrome.

    Here’s a short primer on the topic:

    Here’s One Direction’s take; please shoot me before I play it again.

    • Troll: The Alarmist
  57. @Oleaginous Outrager
    Maybe Meta-Steve could explain Andre Vltchek.

    “Maybe Meta-Steve could explain Andre Vltchek.”

    I see he visited North Korea and then wrote an article called “North Korea, a Land of Human Achievement, Love and Joy.”

  58. Lot says:
    @vinteuil
    In, say, 2003, you didn't have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change - i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens - who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we're all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.

    “In, say, 2003, you didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy”

    Did the people who studied Arabs think that?

    How about in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007? What Iraq really needed was a “surge” of more troops?

    Focusing on 2003 lets Bush and the War Party off the hook for their evil deeds that mostly came after.

    • Replies: @vinteuil
    Reply to Lot/July 16, 2019 at 7:59 am GMT

    (For some reason, comments I post as replies frequently fail to show up as replies)

    I assume you’ve heard of Bernard Lewis?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Lewis

    “In 2007 and 1999, respectively, Lewis was called “the West’s leading interpreter of the Middle East”[4] and “the most influential postwar historian of Islam and the Middle East”.[3] His advice was frequently sought by neoconservative policymakers, including the Bush administration.”

    I mean, c'mon, Lot. For years, before 9/11, I never gave a moment's thought to events in the Middle East. Couldn't have cared less about the endless Arab/Israeli squabble.

    But then 9/11 made it personal. So I sought out info from the experts. And there seemed to be two sides: the left, represented by Edward Said, and the right, represented by Bernard Lewis. Said was obviously a creep, so I sided with Lewis. Only much later did I realise that Lewis was just another cuck.

    The red pill doesn't go down easy.
  59. @Diversity is Great!
    OFF TOPIC

    Uber will tie executive compensation to meeting diversity goals

    POSTED 10:54 PM, JULY 15, 2019,

    BY CNN WIRE

    Uber’s workforce may still be mostly white men, but the company says it is taking new measures to diversify its staff, especially managerial roles.

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    For the first time, Uber is setting some diversity and inclusion goals for 2022 that will be tied to the compensation of several of its senior executives — CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, chief financial officer Nelson Chai, chief legal officer Tony West, and chief people officer Nikki Krishnamurthy.

    Uber’s global headcount has grown tremendously in the past year: It had approximately 26,000 employees at the end of March 2019, up from 18,000 the year prior. This number does not include drivers, whom Uber does not classify as employees but instead, as independent contractors. Uber had 3.9 million drivers globally at the end of 2018.
     


    Uber is also testing a “Rooney Rule” approach for mid-career hires. The original National Football League policy required teams to interview minority candidates for coaching and operations-level roles. In the report, Uber chief diversity officer Bo Young Lee wrote that the goal is to expand the Rooney Rule approach to all its hires in the future.

    The company said it also plans to dig into more granular data in the coming months about its global workforce. It is collecting the information through a global self-ID survey where employees can voluntarily share information about their gender identity, veteran status, disabilities and caregiving status, in addition to answering questions about race, sexuality and socioeconomic status.

    However, Uber didn’t say in the report how many of its workers are on foreign work visas. Last year, it said 16% of US employees had work visas and that they represented 90 countries.
     


    Speaking generally about diversity reports, Allison Scott, chief research officer at the Kapor Center, told CNN Business that it is important companies continue to release reports so the public can know their demographics, and whether progress is being made.

    “The lack of significant progress indicates how deeply ingrained inequity in tech actually is, and indicates comprehensive approaches — not quick fixes — are needed,” Scott said. “We must ask ourselves, what are the negative consequences to companies when numbers don’t change or hiring goals are not reached?” (Kapor Center’s investment arm, Kapor Capital, invested in Uber in 2010.)

     

    :)

    “White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%)”

    Talk about a legacy majority.

    • Agree: ben tillman
  60. @prime noticer
    more like The Current Year:

    when Notre Dame burns down and 2 months later nobody can explain how or why.

    I saw something that claimed the fire department traced the fire to a workers cigarette. Yeah right.

    There’s been reports of dozens of vandalism incidents in French churches this year.

  61. @Oleaginous Outrager
    Since you sent me down that Twitter rabbit-hole, I offer you proof of one of your fav-o-rite "conspiracies":

    https://twitter.com/KentingtonC/status/1149833037510782976

    AIDS is very very easily preventable. Just keep your thing out of that thing.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    That's an instruction for R2-D2 given by his gay, but wise, companion C3P0.
    , @Oleaginous Outrager
    How can anyone control their penis and/or anus whilst suffering under the terror of trickle-down economics, you bigot?
  62. It needs to be said that this is stunningly insulting, patronizing, and degrading to the black folks in the room.

    Imagine you’re one of those black people: the message is that the most important thing in the life of a contemporary black American is grotesque virtue signalling from white Americans about crimes that long-dead white Americans committed centuries ago.

    I didn’t hear a word about things that actually matter to our black fellow citizens: dealing with the black-on-black crime rate, altering the education system so that it actually helps the working class (of any race), ending “crony capitalism” by which working people are peons fueling the lifestyle of the “credentialed” upper-middle class, etc.

    Yeah, the lady is very well-preserved. But, this is like something out of the Maoist Cultural Revolution. If only Tom Wolfe were still alive to skewer all this!

    She is using black people as props in a white-people’s morality play.

    They are not props: they are human beings.

    It’s disgusting.

    • Replies: @Richard S
    Very well put. Her audience isn’t black Americans of course, it’s deluded “liberals” who adopt the outward form of multi-racial empathy as a feel-good abstraction.

    Still .. at least Williamson is just a daft hippy chick and not a hateful, cynical liar like so many of her colleagues.. She seems like a sincere woman.

    I personally think a joint Trump/Tulsi “Patriotic Peace” ticket in 2020 would be amazing. When the Democrat leadership schemes to kick her out in the primaries, Trump should seriously consider bringing her on board as a foreign affairs advisor or something. *That* would be clever politics.
    , @Oddsbodkins
    They are props in someone else's religion. What's especially pathetic is that some of them embrace this role.
    , @nebulafox
    There's really nothing so disgusting as an upper-middle class bien-pensant.
  63. Did the people who studied Arabs think that?

    I assume you’ve heard of Bernard Lewis?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Lewis

    “In 2007 and 1999, respectively, Lewis was called “the West’s leading interpreter of the Middle East”[4] and “the most influential postwar historian of Islam and the Middle East”.[3] His advice was frequently sought by neoconservative policymakers, including the Bush administration.”

  64. @Oleaginous Outrager

    Reparations would be settled.
     
    You're completely delusional. Reparations would be paid, spent, and the hands would be out, again.

    You’re correct about this, but the people agitating for more reparations wouldn’t neccessarily be who you might think.

    Watch 1:00-1:10.

    I actually don’t think reparations will ever pass. 81% of Whites oppose the idea. That’s why even liberal Democrats (like Obama) never proposed reparations.

    Reparations actually isn’t the worst idea out there by any means, as it’s similar to the “universal basic income” plan that’s being advocated by many intellectuals and political candidates (like Andrew Yang). It’d have a highly stimulative impact on the economy. The major problem with reparations mainly would be that it’s too limited. Ideally, it’d be expanded to Whites and other races too.

    • Replies: @Oleaginous Outrager

    It’d have a highly stimulative impact on the economy.
     
    Giving taxpayer money to non-taxpayers is an idiotic way to "stimulate the economy", although not as idiotic as borrowing money to give to non-taxpayers, which is what would really be happening. It's the crack cocaine approach to economic revitalization: a quick, strong high followed by a precipitous withdrawal.


    "Universal basic income" appeals to "intellectuals" without any grasp of basic real world economics, especially the massive cost overheard of any government program, not to mention the multitudinous opportunities for graft and fraud.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    Once you gave it out, the equality of incomes it aims to achieve would still never happen. Which means reparations will be demanded ad infinitum, it will never end, just like the welfare state will never end. As far as the economic stimulus effects, just confined to African Americans, I don't think the effect would amount to much in the aggregate.
    , @ben tillman

    Reparations actually isn’t the worst idea out there by any means, as it’s similar to the “universal basic income” plan that’s being advocated by many intellectuals and political candidates (like Andrew Yang).
     
    No, it's entirely different. UBI is for everyone, not a privileged minority.
  65. @vinteuil
    In, say, 2003, you didn't have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change - i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens - who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we're all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.

    vinteuil wrote:

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens – who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Well, Chris Hitchens was not stupid exactly, but certainly lacking in judgment.

    When I was a ten-year-old kid in grade school, early in the Vietnam conflict, I held views analogous to those you cite. But, a decade later, I had learned enough history (including what was on the nightly news) to know better.

    I never became a Leftist; I simply became a more consistent (nineteenth-century) classical liberal/libertarian.

    Seminal figures in American history — Washington, Jefferson, J. Q. Adams, Thoreau, William Graham Sumner, Mark Twain, and many others — have made the point more eloquently than I could.

    We might still excuse grade-school kids who suffer from a murderously militarist “idealism” about foreign policy.

    But I think we are entitled to expect more of mature adults: if they cannot handle Jefferson or Adams, they could at least read Thoreau or Twain!

    • Replies: @vinteuil

    Well, Chris Hitchens was...lacking in judgment.
     
    Mostly agree.

    When I was a ten-year-old kid in grade school, early in the Vietnam conflict...
     
    So we are of an age.

    I never became a Leftist; I simply became a more consistent (nineteenth-century) classical liberal/libertarian.
     
    Same here.

    Seminal figures in American history — Washington, Jefferson, J. Q. Adams, Thoreau, William Graham Sumner, Mark Twain, and many others — have made the point more eloquently than I could.
     
    If only William Graham Sumner could have been a seminal figure, instead of a tomb-stone.
  66. @Lot
    “In, say, 2003, you didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy”

    Did the people who studied Arabs think that?

    How about in 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007? What Iraq really needed was a “surge” of more troops?

    Focusing on 2003 lets Bush and the War Party off the hook for their evil deeds that mostly came after.

    Reply to Lot/July 16, 2019 at 7:59 am GMT

    (For some reason, comments I post as replies frequently fail to show up as replies)

    I assume you’ve heard of Bernard Lewis?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Lewis

    “In 2007 and 1999, respectively, Lewis was called “the West’s leading interpreter of the Middle East”[4] and “the most influential postwar historian of Islam and the Middle East”.[3] His advice was frequently sought by neoconservative policymakers, including the Bush administration.”

    I mean, c’mon, Lot. For years, before 9/11, I never gave a moment’s thought to events in the Middle East. Couldn’t have cared less about the endless Arab/Israeli squabble.

    But then 9/11 made it personal. So I sought out info from the experts. And there seemed to be two sides: the left, represented by Edward Said, and the right, represented by Bernard Lewis. Said was obviously a creep, so I sided with Lewis. Only much later did I realise that Lewis was just another cuck.

    The red pill doesn’t go down easy.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    Right. You didn't have to be totally nuts to believe those things. You had to be totally ignorant. And the job of the experts is to keep you ignorant.

    Meanwhile, in this corner of the Internet, you could find the true experts who knew ahead of time that the three items you listed were utter falsehoods.

  67. @PhysicistDave
    vinteuil wrote:

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens – who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.
     
    Well, Chris Hitchens was not stupid exactly, but certainly lacking in judgment.

    When I was a ten-year-old kid in grade school, early in the Vietnam conflict, I held views analogous to those you cite. But, a decade later, I had learned enough history (including what was on the nightly news) to know better.

    I never became a Leftist; I simply became a more consistent (nineteenth-century) classical liberal/libertarian.

    Seminal figures in American history -- Washington, Jefferson, J. Q. Adams, Thoreau, William Graham Sumner, Mark Twain, and many others -- have made the point more eloquently than I could.

    We might still excuse grade-school kids who suffer from a murderously militarist "idealism" about foreign policy.

    But I think we are entitled to expect more of mature adults: if they cannot handle Jefferson or Adams, they could at least read Thoreau or Twain!

    Well, Chris Hitchens was…lacking in judgment.

    Mostly agree.

    When I was a ten-year-old kid in grade school, early in the Vietnam conflict…

    So we are of an age.

    I never became a Leftist; I simply became a more consistent (nineteenth-century) classical liberal/libertarian.

    Same here.

    Seminal figures in American history — Washington, Jefferson, J. Q. Adams, Thoreau, William Graham Sumner, Mark Twain, and many others — have made the point more eloquently than I could.

    If only William Graham Sumner could have been a seminal figure, instead of a tomb-stone.

  68. @vinteuil

    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer
     
    Don't know if you were serious, but this is actually a great idea.

    "Meta-Steve" - maybe with diaries?

    “Meta-Steve” – maybe with diaries?

    Seems likely it would be The Protocols of the Commenting Elders of Unz.

  69. @PhysicistDave
    It needs to be said that this is stunningly insulting, patronizing, and degrading to the black folks in the room.

    Imagine you're one of those black people: the message is that the most important thing in the life of a contemporary black American is grotesque virtue signalling from white Americans about crimes that long-dead white Americans committed centuries ago.

    I didn't hear a word about things that actually matter to our black fellow citizens: dealing with the black-on-black crime rate, altering the education system so that it actually helps the working class (of any race), ending "crony capitalism" by which working people are peons fueling the lifestyle of the "credentialed" upper-middle class, etc.

    Yeah, the lady is very well-preserved. But, this is like something out of the Maoist Cultural Revolution. If only Tom Wolfe were still alive to skewer all this!

    She is using black people as props in a white-people's morality play.

    They are not props: they are human beings.

    It's disgusting.

    Very well put. Her audience isn’t black Americans of course, it’s deluded “liberals” who adopt the outward form of multi-racial empathy as a feel-good abstraction.

    Still .. at least Williamson is just a daft hippy chick and not a hateful, cynical liar like so many of her colleagues.. She seems like a sincere woman.

    I personally think a joint Trump/Tulsi “Patriotic Peace” ticket in 2020 would be amazing. When the Democrat leadership schemes to kick her out in the primaries, Trump should seriously consider bringing her on board as a foreign affairs advisor or something. *That* would be clever politics.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
    • Replies: @JudgeSmails

    Trump should seriously consider bringing her on board as a foreign affairs advisor or something. *That* would be clever politics.
     
    You could be on to something here. Tulsa Gabbard's Hotness vs. Wokeness quotient is quite large.
  70. @Diversity is Great!
    OFF TOPIC

    Uber will tie executive compensation to meeting diversity goals

    POSTED 10:54 PM, JULY 15, 2019,

    BY CNN WIRE

    Uber’s workforce may still be mostly white men, but the company says it is taking new measures to diversify its staff, especially managerial roles.

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    For the first time, Uber is setting some diversity and inclusion goals for 2022 that will be tied to the compensation of several of its senior executives — CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, chief financial officer Nelson Chai, chief legal officer Tony West, and chief people officer Nikki Krishnamurthy.

    Uber’s global headcount has grown tremendously in the past year: It had approximately 26,000 employees at the end of March 2019, up from 18,000 the year prior. This number does not include drivers, whom Uber does not classify as employees but instead, as independent contractors. Uber had 3.9 million drivers globally at the end of 2018.
     


    Uber is also testing a “Rooney Rule” approach for mid-career hires. The original National Football League policy required teams to interview minority candidates for coaching and operations-level roles. In the report, Uber chief diversity officer Bo Young Lee wrote that the goal is to expand the Rooney Rule approach to all its hires in the future.

    The company said it also plans to dig into more granular data in the coming months about its global workforce. It is collecting the information through a global self-ID survey where employees can voluntarily share information about their gender identity, veteran status, disabilities and caregiving status, in addition to answering questions about race, sexuality and socioeconomic status.

    However, Uber didn’t say in the report how many of its workers are on foreign work visas. Last year, it said 16% of US employees had work visas and that they represented 90 countries.
     


    Speaking generally about diversity reports, Allison Scott, chief research officer at the Kapor Center, told CNN Business that it is important companies continue to release reports so the public can know their demographics, and whether progress is being made.

    “The lack of significant progress indicates how deeply ingrained inequity in tech actually is, and indicates comprehensive approaches — not quick fixes — are needed,” Scott said. “We must ask ourselves, what are the negative consequences to companies when numbers don’t change or hiring goals are not reached?” (Kapor Center’s investment arm, Kapor Capital, invested in Uber in 2010.)

     

    :)

    Reminds me of a scene in J. T. Bass’s book _Half Past Human_.

    All chordate life on Earth (except humans and rats) has been eaten by humans, algae has gone extinct through over harvesting, and humanity is the only source of high quality protein (rather like Polynesia before the Europeans arrived).
    The tribal Rebel Army has invaded the Hive (all of Earth’s surface, holding about a trillion (10^12) humans) and is having logistics problems. They solve these problems by waiting at the subway stations and killing all the humans who arrive, then dumping the bodies into the Hive’s own protein extracting equipment (everybody is a cannibal from sheer necessity, rats being a delicacy and rat hunting a sport).

    The book captured quite a few of the realities of urban medicine (Nurse asked old disoriented man why he hasn’t committed suicide and spared the world of his useless existence, the old guy backhands her and leaves, nurse says: “Why did he have to hit me? I was just using the standard suicide induction protocol!”), but the subway scene becoming real is going a bit too far.

    Funny thing is that I’ve seen something a lot like that among the _licensed_ cab drivers of Arlington, VA — so far, just an occasiona highly antagonistic attitude.

    Counterinsurgency

    1] J. T. Bass.
    _Half Past Human_
    1st ed. 1971.
    https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1773848.Half_Past_Human

  71. @PhysicistDave

    You're a lamp; God is the electricity. You're a faucet; God is the water. You're a toilet: ALLOW the flow.
     
    (Thanks to a friend -- who'd rather not be named.)

    “You’re a lamp;”

    Isn’t this anti-semitic?

    • Replies: @Haruto Rat
    Not sure about Linux, Apache or MySQL but PHP is very semitic. :)

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LAMP_(software_bundle)
    https://www.php.net/manual/en/language.oop5.paamayim-nekudotayim.php
  72. anonymous[340] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Seriously. She's one of the best looking 67 year olds that I've ever seen. Good job avoiding the wall.

    I wouldn't mind voting for her for House or Senate. Or appointing her to a secretary position.

    We need more diversity of opinion in DC. I think some her hippie stuff represents a huge improvement on the pro-militarization, pro-finance, pro-business consensus that we have right now.

    Unfortunately, given media bias, she's being portrayed as "kooky." Like her ideas are too weird to work.

    Read through her site. Her ideas aren't bad. https://www.marianne2020.com/issues

    I don't neccessarily agree with her on everything, but at least she's not spouting the tax cuts and deregulation BS that Republican snake oil salesman have been pushing for the last 40 years.

    And I’ve often thought that we need more diversity of opinion in these threads, too. Thank you for some worthwhile discussion.

  73. Anonymous[378] • Disclaimer says:
    @vinteuil
    In, say, 2003, you didn't have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change - i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens - who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we're all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.

    Americans don’t do wars, they do crusades. Sometimes this ends badly, and a Nixon/Kissinger needs to come along to inject a dose of realism into U.S. foreign policy, but these people are never welcome and never liked, and as soon as the crisis is over, the crusading instinct comes back with a vengeance.

    • Replies: @SFG
    That's the problem, and is part of the reason the neocons were so successful--they seized on a natural tendency to look abroad for dragons to slay. At least Washington was able to keep us from doing so for the first couple of years when it would have really been disastrous.
  74. @Lot
    Limit the natalist policies to income tax cuts for US citizens. To take advantage, you have to have enough income to pay income taxes, and actually be reporting it.

    So a $30,000 per kid deduction is worth $7500 per kid if the 25% bracket, $10,000 in the 33% bracket, $0 for unemployeds/min wagers, and $0 for cash business tax cheats.

    Dude, seriously, get elected to Congress. We need you there.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I doubt he's got the funds or wants to ruin his life doing that.

    In my case there were some liaisons with feminists that were entirely consensual (I have the texts!) but would no doubt become not so as soon as my platform became public.

    , @Lot
    Thank you. I’d have an easier time moving to the executive branch. I did college GOP, and 15 years later see many old friends moving up the ranks. If Bannon had stayed I probably would have given it a shot.
  75. @JohnnyWalker123
    Immigration is not all that matters by any means. Especially not if your country goes bankrupt through overspending on foreign wars.

    However, since you're interested in comparing the immigration positions of Bush and Williamson, I will present the facts.

    For the most part, Williamson and Bush are similar on immigration. However, there is one HUGE difference.

    In 2000 and 2004, Bush supported amnesty, weak border enforcement, and the existing levels of legal immigration. He also supported an extreme increase in foreign worker visas that would've increased migration by "millions" per year.

    Steve blogged about this at the time.

    https://vdare.com/articles/the-five-billion

    The Bush Administration officials announced in January 2004 that the President's guest worker plan will allow anyone in the world with a minimum wage job offer from an American employer to move here, and bring along dependents. Contemplating this, it struck me (among other things) that our leaders must be clueless about how many people actually want to move to the U.S…
     
    Williamson supports the above, minus the extreme increase in foreign worker visas. So she's a pretty standard candidate whose migration views would be mainstream in either party, while Bush was an exceptionally pro-migration outlier. Perhaps the most pro-migration president in the history of the country.

    So if really want to compare them on immigration, I just presented you with a way to do that.

    Immigration is not all that matters by any means.

    No, it’s not all that matters, but it’s the one issue which–if mishandled–renders all the others irrelevant. And we’ve been mishandling it since the 1960s. So all of the other matters which occupy everyone’s attention are equivalent to rearranging the deck chairs now.

    • Agree: bomag, Lurker
  76. @Laurence Whelk
    She just shot to the top of my Dem nomination list - can you see her and Trump debating? - peak crazy!

    “She just shot to the top of my Dem nomination list …”

    Me too! I’d especially love to hear her reveal her Cabinet appointments: Secretary of Defense, Oprah, State, Deepak Chopra…..

  77. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    That amount of money won’t be near the mark to change much for black America, meanwhile the implication of reparations is that white America is now square with black America. It’s not an idea for implementation, it’s power is in never being achieved but in creating a wedge issue to get out the black vote. It’s not a debate about reparations and everyone knows this.

  78. @Redneck farmer
    Dude, seriously, get elected to Congress. We need you there.

    I doubt he’s got the funds or wants to ruin his life doing that.

    In my case there were some liaisons with feminists that were entirely consensual (I have the texts!) but would no doubt become not so as soon as my platform became public.

    • LOL: Romanian
    • Replies: @Lot
    For Congress? Probably not worth their time. But save those texts!
    , @nebulafox
    Yeah, I'm in the same compromised position, and probably will become moreso by the time I meet the age requirements. I don't think I really have the personality required, anyway: Nixon showed what happened when you tried to forcibly pull that off. It really caused him difficulties. He seemed truly happier in the last decade of his life when he could do something more natural.

    Plus side, though, I don't have to pretend to have answers that I don't have. (Though, really, a politician admitting that would probably give him a ring of authenticity that would prove golden in today's age.) And when history calls me, I won't have to grovel in front of donors before I screw them.

  79. @Anonymous
    Americans don't do wars, they do crusades. Sometimes this ends badly, and a Nixon/Kissinger needs to come along to inject a dose of realism into U.S. foreign policy, but these people are never welcome and never liked, and as soon as the crisis is over, the crusading instinct comes back with a vengeance.

    That’s the problem, and is part of the reason the neocons were so successful–they seized on a natural tendency to look abroad for dragons to slay. At least Washington was able to keep us from doing so for the first couple of years when it would have really been disastrous.

  80. Related:

    A fine parody:

  81. @Lot
    https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Marianne-8.jpeg

    https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/Marianne-9-.jpeg

    https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/03/62/66/17771920/4/920x920.jpg

    I’d beam my love into her space station.

    • LOL: Ibound1
  82. @Curious
    Daily reminder that US white liberals are deeply damaged goods.

    https://i.imgur.com/WlxZsDU.jpg

    I view them basically as passive victims of decades of systematic anti-white vitriol och scapegoating by the jewish press. They have internalised this fully.

    Most white liberals in America belong to some subgroup (Jewish, Irish Catholic, homosexuals, etc.) who see themselves as different from the traditional white American “in group”. I suspect that if the question were asked about their specific group the in group bias would be similar to the other groups.

    Their bias is really against us, not against themselves.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Approximately 50% of the population votes Democrat or liberal. Jews are less than 2% of the US population, as are gays. If you do the math on all of the minorities in the Coalition of the Fringes, it's still not enough to elect anyone without the support of good old fashioned white people who are still (for the time being at least) the largest segment of the population. If you try to explain away Leftism and self hatred by assuming that everyone who practices it is "not really American" then your explanation is going to be incomplete.
  83. @MikeatMikedotMike
    "You’re a lamp;"

    Isn't this anti-semitic?
  84. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    Any questioning of the official narrative makes someone a Holocaust denier. Giraldi said “the so-called holocaust”. In this context so-called would refer to, and question, the use of the term holocaust in describing what took place while alleged would refer to, and question, whether it took place at all.

    Here’s an Orthodox rabbi questioning the 6 million Jews figure (since, he argues, approx. 5 out of 6 were technically or genetically not Jewish). This kind of talk is verboten even if said in Hebrew and in front of fellow Orthodox Jews. It got Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi condemned and ostracized

    • Replies: @Jack D
    This man is an idiot. The process of assimilation was not far along in Poland and E. Europe where the Nazis did most of their Jew killing. Poland 1941 was not America 2019. Intermarriage was rare. His estimate that 80% of the Jews of Europe were not Jewish according to Orthodox standards is off by an order of magnitude at least. Mizrahi has since backed away from his idiocy.

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/u-s-rabbi-apologizes-for-holocaust-statement-1.5385387

    Have you?
  85. @ben tillman

    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?
     
    Is nothing sacred? I've known Jews named Smith, but Wilson, Williams , and Williamson should be off-limits.

    “Wilson, Williams , and Williamson should be off-limits”

    In the UK one of the biggest promoters of ‘euthanasia’, often on the BBC, was an MP called Evan Harris, but he wasn’t a Welshman.

    When he lost his seat he complained that opponents habitually calling him “Dr Death” may have influenced voters.

    • LOL: bomag
    • Replies: @Anon

    In the UK one of the biggest promoters of ‘euthanasia’, often on the BBC, was an MP called Evan Harris, but he wasn’t a Welshman
     
    British MP Harris went to Harvard-Westlake School in LA.
  86. I couldn’t even finish watching it – I cringed so hard that my blood curdled!

  87. @Anon000

    Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”
     
    Any questioning of the official narrative makes someone a Holocaust denier. Giraldi said “the so-called holocaust”. In this context so-called would refer to, and question, the use of the term holocaust in describing what took place while alleged would refer to, and question, whether it took place at all.

    Here’s an Orthodox rabbi questioning the 6 million Jews figure (since, he argues, approx. 5 out of 6 were technically or genetically not Jewish). This kind of talk is verboten even if said in Hebrew and in front of fellow Orthodox Jews. It got Rabbi Yosef Mizrachi condemned and ostracized

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2ksLt0amSEQ

    This man is an idiot. The process of assimilation was not far along in Poland and E. Europe where the Nazis did most of their Jew killing. Poland 1941 was not America 2019. Intermarriage was rare. His estimate that 80% of the Jews of Europe were not Jewish according to Orthodox standards is off by an order of magnitude at least. Mizrahi has since backed away from his idiocy.

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/u-s-rabbi-apologizes-for-holocaust-statement-1.5385387

    Have you?

    • Replies: @BengaliCanadianDude
    Why should he back away from questioning the impossible Holohaux narrative?



    Typical of a Jew to encourage censorship
  88. @Alden
    AIDS is very very easily preventable. Just keep your thing out of that thing.

    That’s an instruction for R2-D2 given by his gay, but wise, companion C3P0.

  89. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Wilson, Williams , and Williamson should be off-limits"

    In the UK one of the biggest promoters of 'euthanasia', often on the BBC, was an MP called Evan Harris, but he wasn't a Welshman.

    When he lost his seat he complained that opponents habitually calling him "Dr Death" may have influenced voters.

    In the UK one of the biggest promoters of ‘euthanasia’, often on the BBC, was an MP called Evan Harris, but he wasn’t a Welshman

    British MP Harris went to Harvard-Westlake School in LA.

  90. @Diversity is Great!
    OFF TOPIC

    Uber will tie executive compensation to meeting diversity goals

    POSTED 10:54 PM, JULY 15, 2019,

    BY CNN WIRE

    Uber’s workforce may still be mostly white men, but the company says it is taking new measures to diversify its staff, especially managerial roles.

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    For the first time, Uber is setting some diversity and inclusion goals for 2022 that will be tied to the compensation of several of its senior executives — CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, chief financial officer Nelson Chai, chief legal officer Tony West, and chief people officer Nikki Krishnamurthy.

    Uber’s global headcount has grown tremendously in the past year: It had approximately 26,000 employees at the end of March 2019, up from 18,000 the year prior. This number does not include drivers, whom Uber does not classify as employees but instead, as independent contractors. Uber had 3.9 million drivers globally at the end of 2018.
     


    Uber is also testing a “Rooney Rule” approach for mid-career hires. The original National Football League policy required teams to interview minority candidates for coaching and operations-level roles. In the report, Uber chief diversity officer Bo Young Lee wrote that the goal is to expand the Rooney Rule approach to all its hires in the future.

    The company said it also plans to dig into more granular data in the coming months about its global workforce. It is collecting the information through a global self-ID survey where employees can voluntarily share information about their gender identity, veteran status, disabilities and caregiving status, in addition to answering questions about race, sexuality and socioeconomic status.

    However, Uber didn’t say in the report how many of its workers are on foreign work visas. Last year, it said 16% of US employees had work visas and that they represented 90 countries.
     


    Speaking generally about diversity reports, Allison Scott, chief research officer at the Kapor Center, told CNN Business that it is important companies continue to release reports so the public can know their demographics, and whether progress is being made.

    “The lack of significant progress indicates how deeply ingrained inequity in tech actually is, and indicates comprehensive approaches — not quick fixes — are needed,” Scott said. “We must ask ourselves, what are the negative consequences to companies when numbers don’t change or hiring goals are not reached?” (Kapor Center’s investment arm, Kapor Capital, invested in Uber in 2010.)

     

    :)

    Whoever at CNN wrote this article doesn’t understand what “most” means.

    And since non-Hispanic whites are 63% of the population, if white males are 30.1% of the staff, they are slightly underrepresented. So I think we can add “innumerate” to the list of writer-describing adjectives.

  91. @Paul Rise
    What's with the guy at 0:38? Does he think ants are crawling over his arms? I wonder how many people who show up at her events are deeply disturbed. The book A Course in Miracles that Williamsons teachings are based on are notes a psychologist took while she was having schizoid hallucinations.

    I wonder how many people who show up at her events are deeply disturbed.

    These are the kind of people who followed Jim Jones to Jonestown.

  92. I like the IDEA of Marianne Williamson so much that I try to avoid exposing myself to the reality of Marianne Williamson, e.g. by watching the YouTube video.

    I do like the title YouTube applied to the video: “A Prayer of Apology FOR African-Americans.”

    I fantasize that this is an apology from 1) the African chieftains who harvested and sold them, 2) the Jewish Yankee slave traders who brought them hence and 3) the tiny, tiny minority of Southerners who purchased and employed them. All three groups need to apologize to America for imposing this problem on the rest of us, for their own profit.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Jack D

    the Jewish Yankee slave traders who brought them hence
     
    What % of slave traders were Jewish Yankees? 99%? 110%? Six out out of every 5? The entire US Jewish population in 1808, the year that slave importation ended, was less than 3,000 (mostly Sephardi) Jews out of 7 million Americans. Even if every last Jewish man, woman and child was a Yankee Slave trader it wouldn't have been enough to run the slave trade.

    the tiny, tiny minority of Southerners who purchased and employed them
     
    The 1860 census shows that in the (soon to be) Confederate states, 32 % of white families owned slaves. In some states it was much more (46% in South Carolina, 49% in Mississippi). Is this what you call a "tiny, tiny minority"?

    "Fantasize" is the right word because you are imagining a fantasy South that never existed. White people are not ONLY to blame for slavery but they sure as hell deserve a good PART of the blame.
  93. Anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @vinteuil
    I used to try to inject a note of skepticism into some of those threads, but who needs being mobbed?

    Give the pathological jew-haters free reign, and before long everybody else leaves.

    “Everyone else” who would be offended by Jew bashing are the 2% Jews and 10% Bible literalists. The first have made their POV loud and clear through other channels. Right on this page, at the top, there’s a long speech of a Jewess..

    Given compensation, the 2% would overwhelm everyone else with their “logical” comments.

  94. @Steve in Greensboro
    I like the IDEA of Marianne Williamson so much that I try to avoid exposing myself to the reality of Marianne Williamson, e.g. by watching the YouTube video.

    I do like the title YouTube applied to the video: "A Prayer of Apology FOR African-Americans."

    I fantasize that this is an apology from 1) the African chieftains who harvested and sold them, 2) the Jewish Yankee slave traders who brought them hence and 3) the tiny, tiny minority of Southerners who purchased and employed them. All three groups need to apologize to America for imposing this problem on the rest of us, for their own profit.

    the Jewish Yankee slave traders who brought them hence

    What % of slave traders were Jewish Yankees? 99%? 110%? Six out out of every 5? The entire US Jewish population in 1808, the year that slave importation ended, was less than 3,000 (mostly Sephardi) Jews out of 7 million Americans. Even if every last Jewish man, woman and child was a Yankee Slave trader it wouldn’t have been enough to run the slave trade.

    the tiny, tiny minority of Southerners who purchased and employed them

    The 1860 census shows that in the (soon to be) Confederate states, 32 % of white families owned slaves. In some states it was much more (46% in South Carolina, 49% in Mississippi). Is this what you call a “tiny, tiny minority”?

    “Fantasize” is the right word because you are imagining a fantasy South that never existed. White people are not ONLY to blame for slavery but they sure as hell deserve a good PART of the blame.

    • Replies: @anon

    Even if every last Jewish man, woman and child was a Yankee Slave trader it wouldn’t have been enough to run the slave trade.
     
    One person would have been enough to "run" the slave trade.
    , @ben tillman
    Your 3,000 figure is low.
  95. @James Braxton
    Most white liberals in America belong to some subgroup (Jewish, Irish Catholic, homosexuals, etc.) who see themselves as different from the traditional white American "in group". I suspect that if the question were asked about their specific group the in group bias would be similar to the other groups.

    Their bias is really against us, not against themselves.

    Approximately 50% of the population votes Democrat or liberal. Jews are less than 2% of the US population, as are gays. If you do the math on all of the minorities in the Coalition of the Fringes, it’s still not enough to elect anyone without the support of good old fashioned white people who are still (for the time being at least) the largest segment of the population. If you try to explain away Leftism and self hatred by assuming that everyone who practices it is “not really American” then your explanation is going to be incomplete.

    • Replies: @James Braxton
    What percentage of white democratic voters are Catholic?
  96. OT: The WNBA is sweeping domestic violence accusations against a couple of lesbian players under the rug. It appears this is one area they don’t want to treated the same as men.

    https://www.si.com/wnba/2019/07/15/wnba-domestic-violence-sparks-storm-riquna-williams-natasha-howard

  97. @ben tillman

    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?
     
    Is nothing sacred? I've known Jews named Smith, but Wilson, Williams , and Williamson should be off-limits.

    The Nazis had the same problem and they found the solution long ago. No I don’t mean THAT solution. One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not. HOWEVER (and this shows the brilliance of German logic, which even the Nazis could not suppress) you didn’t have to do this if your first name was already Israel or Sara.

    Now some folks around here try to do the same with ((parentheses)) but I think that the Nazis had the better solution in this case. There is really very little new in anti-Semitic technology – the kvetching (if I may be so bold) about the Jews in 2019 is no different than that of 1939 or 1899.

    • Replies: @anon

    One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not.
     
    This would have been consistent with Jews' own efforts to mark themselves as being distinct from the goyim: kippas, mezuzah, teflin, circumcision.

    I have heard that some Jewish groups even supported the Nuremberg Laws.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    The Nazis had the same problem and they found the solution long ago. No I don’t mean THAT solution. One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not.
     
    Jack - wouldn't this clear things up for your people too? I mean, otherwise how can you be sure that the enterprising Hans Miller looking to be hired by your company is a good, bright Jewish boy (well, in the unlikely event that you're open to hiring someone who isn't your nephew) and not some goyische kopf who might screw up the figures in your ledger books?

    I think Jews would find it easier to recognize one another so that you could network and form some sort of group solidarity if there was an explicit and public means for everyone to recognize Jews, don't you?
    , @ben tillman
    Good Lord, I just remembered I know Jews named Williams. There was a Jew named Williams who was a sheriff in Oklahoma. I knew his son. They came from Morocco.
    , @Anonymous

    Now some folks around here try to do the same with ((parentheses))
     
    And some folks do it with kippas, mezuzahs, teflin, and circumcision.
  98. @Jack D

    the Jewish Yankee slave traders who brought them hence
     
    What % of slave traders were Jewish Yankees? 99%? 110%? Six out out of every 5? The entire US Jewish population in 1808, the year that slave importation ended, was less than 3,000 (mostly Sephardi) Jews out of 7 million Americans. Even if every last Jewish man, woman and child was a Yankee Slave trader it wouldn't have been enough to run the slave trade.

    the tiny, tiny minority of Southerners who purchased and employed them
     
    The 1860 census shows that in the (soon to be) Confederate states, 32 % of white families owned slaves. In some states it was much more (46% in South Carolina, 49% in Mississippi). Is this what you call a "tiny, tiny minority"?

    "Fantasize" is the right word because you are imagining a fantasy South that never existed. White people are not ONLY to blame for slavery but they sure as hell deserve a good PART of the blame.

    Even if every last Jewish man, woman and child was a Yankee Slave trader it wouldn’t have been enough to run the slave trade.

    One person would have been enough to “run” the slave trade.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Really? What was the name of this person (Jew)? Why is it unknown to us? Who has suppressed the identity of the Yankee Jewish slavery mastermind Grand Poobah, the Capo di Tutti i Capi of slavery? Surely not the Jews. If we could find his name then we could make his fabulously wealthy Sephardic descendants pay all of the reparations and leave people like me whose ancestors were busy camping out in the shtetl and avoiding the Russian draft until long after the last slave was freed the hell alone.
    , @Known Fact
    Yankee Slave Trader Joe's
  99. @JohnnyWalker123
    You're correct about this, but the people agitating for more reparations wouldn't neccessarily be who you might think.

    Watch 1:00-1:10.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczW1gIRBjY

    I actually don't think reparations will ever pass. 81% of Whites oppose the idea. That's why even liberal Democrats (like Obama) never proposed reparations.

    Reparations actually isn't the worst idea out there by any means, as it's similar to the "universal basic income" plan that's being advocated by many intellectuals and political candidates (like Andrew Yang). It'd have a highly stimulative impact on the economy. The major problem with reparations mainly would be that it's too limited. Ideally, it'd be expanded to Whites and other races too.

    It’d have a highly stimulative impact on the economy.

    Giving taxpayer money to non-taxpayers is an idiotic way to “stimulate the economy”, although not as idiotic as borrowing money to give to non-taxpayers, which is what would really be happening. It’s the crack cocaine approach to economic revitalization: a quick, strong high followed by a precipitous withdrawal.

    “Universal basic income” appeals to “intellectuals” without any grasp of basic real world economics, especially the massive cost overheard of any government program, not to mention the multitudinous opportunities for graft and fraud.

    • Disagree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @Jack D
    Even putting aside overhead and graft, it's still a terrible idea. Social security is a form of universal basic income (and one that run on fairly low overhead and without much graft (especially the old age pension part of it) but the payments are made to people who are in the twilight of their life - they have already made productive contributions to the society and the feeling is that they deserve a rest (assuming that they are even still capable of working).

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits. Second, it deprives society of the potential production of these people. The wealth of a society is ultimately the sum of the goods and services produced - if people are sitting around, they aren't producing anything. A smaller and smaller % of productive people have to carry everyone. At some point this can't be sustained. And the idea that all of this stuff will be provided by robot factories so everyone else can stay home and play video games is stupid - that's not gonna work.
    , @Charles Pewitt

    “Universal basic income” appeals to “intellectuals” without any grasp of basic real world economics, especially the massive cost overheard of any government program, not to mention the multitudinous opportunities for graft and fraud.

     

    The Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) will appeal to regular IQ people such as myself and the notion that something called "basic real world economics" is at play in the globalized world is laughable.

    There will be very little cost overhead to the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion because the existing US government electronic transfer system and check distribution system will be used.

    Multitudinous opportunities for graft and fraud will be minimized by the simplicity of the system. Harsh penalties including public execution by hanging or shooting or electrocution will dissuade those ineligible for the PCLP from even thinking about cheating the system.

    If you have all four grandparents born in the USA before 1924 you will receive ten thousand dollars a month from the US Treasury -- tax free and clear of any other attachments or hooks from the US government.

    The US Treasury and the Federal Reserve Bank shall conjure the dollars out of thin air and direct them to each eligible American. Government bureaucrats and other clam-raking middlemen will be kept at a distance.

    White Core America leaders will immediately begin pooling a portion of the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion to develop a nationwide militia system to take control of the electronic command and control of the US military. I expect 30 percent of the Whites in the US military to immediately side with White Core America to do what is necessary to legally remove the evil and immoral JEW/WASP ruling class from power.

    American International Group(AIG) was bailed out by the JEW/WASP ruling class using its control of the Federal Reserve Bank so that AIG could bail out Goldman Sachs. The banks got bailed out all over the globe by the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank but regular people got screwed over.

    The Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion will bring about the immediate halt to mass legal immigration and illegal immigration. The PCLP will result in the immediate mass deportation of 50 or 60 million foreigners and their spawn from the USA.
  100. @vinteuil
    In, say, 2003, you didn't have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change - i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens - who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we're all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.

    Yes, you did have to be nuts or at least naive to believe that, even in 2003. Hence why the Bush admin & media had to sell the lie about WMDs and Saddam’s possible connection to Al Qaeda/9/11. That lie wouldn’t have been necessary if people were supportive of regime change out of ignorance.

  101. anon[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    The Nazis had the same problem and they found the solution long ago. No I don't mean THAT solution. One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not. HOWEVER (and this shows the brilliance of German logic, which even the Nazis could not suppress) you didn't have to do this if your first name was already Israel or Sara.

    Now some folks around here try to do the same with ((parentheses)) but I think that the Nazis had the better solution in this case. There is really very little new in anti-Semitic technology - the kvetching (if I may be so bold) about the Jews in 2019 is no different than that of 1939 or 1899.

    One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not.

    This would have been consistent with Jews’ own efforts to mark themselves as being distinct from the goyim: kippas, mezuzah, teflin, circumcision.

    I have heard that some Jewish groups even supported the Nuremberg Laws.

  102. OFF TOPIC

    This is why I use the term RULING CLASS instead of elite to describe the plutocrat scum and their minions who are attacking White Core America and the United States.

    The JEW/WASP ruling class of the American Empire is evil and immoral and it must be removed from power.

    God Bless The United States Of America!

  103. @JohnnyWalker123
    You're correct about this, but the people agitating for more reparations wouldn't neccessarily be who you might think.

    Watch 1:00-1:10.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczW1gIRBjY

    I actually don't think reparations will ever pass. 81% of Whites oppose the idea. That's why even liberal Democrats (like Obama) never proposed reparations.

    Reparations actually isn't the worst idea out there by any means, as it's similar to the "universal basic income" plan that's being advocated by many intellectuals and political candidates (like Andrew Yang). It'd have a highly stimulative impact on the economy. The major problem with reparations mainly would be that it's too limited. Ideally, it'd be expanded to Whites and other races too.

    Once you gave it out, the equality of incomes it aims to achieve would still never happen. Which means reparations will be demanded ad infinitum, it will never end, just like the welfare state will never end. As far as the economic stimulus effects, just confined to African Americans, I don’t think the effect would amount to much in the aggregate.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    That's already clear. Reparation "intellectuals" like Tennessee Coates may not be the sharpest pencil in the drawer, but they understand full well that a one time reparations check would result in a massive sales boost for Cadillac and then everything returning to the way it was before in short order. No, no, no - whitey has to pay and pay and pay.
  104. @Alden
    AIDS is very very easily preventable. Just keep your thing out of that thing.

    How can anyone control their penis and/or anus whilst suffering under the terror of trickle-down economics, you bigot?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Don't mention the Santorum.
  105. @Diversity is Great!
    OFF TOPIC

    Uber will tie executive compensation to meeting diversity goals

    POSTED 10:54 PM, JULY 15, 2019,

    BY CNN WIRE

    Uber’s workforce may still be mostly white men, but the company says it is taking new measures to diversify its staff, especially managerial roles.

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    For the first time, Uber is setting some diversity and inclusion goals for 2022 that will be tied to the compensation of several of its senior executives — CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, chief financial officer Nelson Chai, chief legal officer Tony West, and chief people officer Nikki Krishnamurthy.

    Uber’s global headcount has grown tremendously in the past year: It had approximately 26,000 employees at the end of March 2019, up from 18,000 the year prior. This number does not include drivers, whom Uber does not classify as employees but instead, as independent contractors. Uber had 3.9 million drivers globally at the end of 2018.
     


    Uber is also testing a “Rooney Rule” approach for mid-career hires. The original National Football League policy required teams to interview minority candidates for coaching and operations-level roles. In the report, Uber chief diversity officer Bo Young Lee wrote that the goal is to expand the Rooney Rule approach to all its hires in the future.

    The company said it also plans to dig into more granular data in the coming months about its global workforce. It is collecting the information through a global self-ID survey where employees can voluntarily share information about their gender identity, veteran status, disabilities and caregiving status, in addition to answering questions about race, sexuality and socioeconomic status.

    However, Uber didn’t say in the report how many of its workers are on foreign work visas. Last year, it said 16% of US employees had work visas and that they represented 90 countries.
     


    Speaking generally about diversity reports, Allison Scott, chief research officer at the Kapor Center, told CNN Business that it is important companies continue to release reports so the public can know their demographics, and whether progress is being made.

    “The lack of significant progress indicates how deeply ingrained inequity in tech actually is, and indicates comprehensive approaches — not quick fixes — are needed,” Scott said. “We must ask ourselves, what are the negative consequences to companies when numbers don’t change or hiring goals are not reached?” (Kapor Center’s investment arm, Kapor Capital, invested in Uber in 2010.)

     

    :)

    Uber is toast now. Their founder, Kalanick, was ousted in a Me Too palace coup (Me Too is very useful for getting rid of high T alpha male entrepreneurs who tend to grab what they want) and PC brown nosing females and S. Asians have been put in charge. It’s OK to have these folks in your HR department or as CFO or somewhere where they can do limited damage but promoting them to CEO is the kiss of death, especially for a company that has not yet matured to the point where it can run on autopilot without someone with the vision thing at the helm. Uber never made the transition to actually making a profit and now without Kalanick at the helm they probably never will figure it out.

    • Agree: William Badwhite
  106. @Altai

    Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel "Sam" Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father's original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston's Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]
     
    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    ‘Vishnevetsky’ sounds like a modified form of the Polish surname ‘Wiśniowiecki,’
    which was well known in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, a vast territory
    encompassing Poland, Lithuania, Belarus, and western Ukraine, to use today’s
    terms. After the Jews were expelled from Western Europe, by 1550 90% of the
    world’s Ashkenazi Jews ended up in the Commonwealth, a highly decentralized
    republic. With the exception of some remaining Khazar Jews, Jews were not allowed
    to live in Russia proper (i.e., Moscow, SPB, etc) until 1917.

    Years ago I read that while in college (around 1970) she dedicated herself to seducing
    and sleeping with every professor she found interesting. After she dropped out of
    college, she moved to New York where for awhile her lifestyle could be described as
    dominated by sex, drugs, and rock ‘n roll. People who remember her from her
    younger days say that despite her short stature she offended and alienated a lot of
    people with her volcanic temper.

  107. @Oleaginous Outrager

    It’d have a highly stimulative impact on the economy.
     
    Giving taxpayer money to non-taxpayers is an idiotic way to "stimulate the economy", although not as idiotic as borrowing money to give to non-taxpayers, which is what would really be happening. It's the crack cocaine approach to economic revitalization: a quick, strong high followed by a precipitous withdrawal.


    "Universal basic income" appeals to "intellectuals" without any grasp of basic real world economics, especially the massive cost overheard of any government program, not to mention the multitudinous opportunities for graft and fraud.

    Even putting aside overhead and graft, it’s still a terrible idea. Social security is a form of universal basic income (and one that run on fairly low overhead and without much graft (especially the old age pension part of it) but the payments are made to people who are in the twilight of their life – they have already made productive contributions to the society and the feeling is that they deserve a rest (assuming that they are even still capable of working).

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits. Second, it deprives society of the potential production of these people. The wealth of a society is ultimately the sum of the goods and services produced – if people are sitting around, they aren’t producing anything. A smaller and smaller % of productive people have to carry everyone. At some point this can’t be sustained. And the idea that all of this stuff will be provided by robot factories so everyone else can stay home and play video games is stupid – that’s not gonna work.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I should also note that Social Security is different in that it is (partly) funded by the contributions of the people who are later drawing pensions. In a guaranteed income scheme you would draw out without ever having paid in a cent in many cases.

    Social security always had a redistributionist aspect in that there is not a strict 1 for 1 accounting of individual contributions the way there is in say a 401(k) account but there was at least some requirement that you had to pay in before you could draw out.
    , @Rosie

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits.
     
    Keep shaking your fist if you like, but UBI is only a matter of time. Automation is going to put too many people out of work.
  108. @Unladen Swallow
    Once you gave it out, the equality of incomes it aims to achieve would still never happen. Which means reparations will be demanded ad infinitum, it will never end, just like the welfare state will never end. As far as the economic stimulus effects, just confined to African Americans, I don't think the effect would amount to much in the aggregate.

    That’s already clear. Reparation “intellectuals” like Tennessee Coates may not be the sharpest pencil in the drawer, but they understand full well that a one time reparations check would result in a massive sales boost for Cadillac and then everything returning to the way it was before in short order. No, no, no – whitey has to pay and pay and pay.

  109. One of my great-great grandfathers was drafted into the Union army from his home in Wisconsin. He was 39, married, with 3 small children. Got shot at by Confederate soldiers in Alabama. Thankfully, not hit.

    When will Ms. Williamson ask the Black folks in the audience to thank me for his service?

  110. @Jack D
    Even putting aside overhead and graft, it's still a terrible idea. Social security is a form of universal basic income (and one that run on fairly low overhead and without much graft (especially the old age pension part of it) but the payments are made to people who are in the twilight of their life - they have already made productive contributions to the society and the feeling is that they deserve a rest (assuming that they are even still capable of working).

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits. Second, it deprives society of the potential production of these people. The wealth of a society is ultimately the sum of the goods and services produced - if people are sitting around, they aren't producing anything. A smaller and smaller % of productive people have to carry everyone. At some point this can't be sustained. And the idea that all of this stuff will be provided by robot factories so everyone else can stay home and play video games is stupid - that's not gonna work.

    I should also note that Social Security is different in that it is (partly) funded by the contributions of the people who are later drawing pensions. In a guaranteed income scheme you would draw out without ever having paid in a cent in many cases.

    Social security always had a redistributionist aspect in that there is not a strict 1 for 1 accounting of individual contributions the way there is in say a 401(k) account but there was at least some requirement that you had to pay in before you could draw out.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    I should also note that Social Security is different in that it is (partly) funded by the contributions of the people who are later drawing pensions. In a guaranteed income scheme you would draw out without ever having paid in a cent in many cases.

    Social security always had a redistributionist aspect in that there is not a strict 1 for 1 accounting of individual contributions the way there is in say a 401(k) account but there was at least some requirement that you had to pay in before you could draw out.

     

    Several years ago the Bezos Blog ran a piece by a "wonk" who selected an average middle class American annual man's payroll contributions in order to propose that he received SS and Medicare benefits over one hundred thousand dollars in excess of his contributions.

    An enterprising fellow in the comments did a conservative calculation accounting for the time value of his contributions and showed that the actual present dollar value of his total contributions was in excess of three million dollars, and that the government did in fact short change him to the tune of millions.
  111. @Altai

    Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel "Sam" Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father's original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston's Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]
     
    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    In Scrabble, you’re allowed to change all your letters, in one go. Do you want Jews to have less rights than a board game?

  112. OT: But this “live feed” of Apollo 11 audio (liftoff was about 50 years + 3 hours ago) is too cool.

    https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/

    • Replies: @Nurdle
    Thanks, that is awesome. The depth of the accents is really interesting. I don't hear professional people speak that way at work much anymore; our accents all seem to be headed towards some kind of sterile NPR sound.
  113. @Jack D
    The Nazis had the same problem and they found the solution long ago. No I don't mean THAT solution. One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not. HOWEVER (and this shows the brilliance of German logic, which even the Nazis could not suppress) you didn't have to do this if your first name was already Israel or Sara.

    Now some folks around here try to do the same with ((parentheses)) but I think that the Nazis had the better solution in this case. There is really very little new in anti-Semitic technology - the kvetching (if I may be so bold) about the Jews in 2019 is no different than that of 1939 or 1899.

    The Nazis had the same problem and they found the solution long ago. No I don’t mean THAT solution. One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not.

    Jack – wouldn’t this clear things up for your people too? I mean, otherwise how can you be sure that the enterprising Hans Miller looking to be hired by your company is a good, bright Jewish boy (well, in the unlikely event that you’re open to hiring someone who isn’t your nephew) and not some goyische kopf who might screw up the figures in your ledger books?

    I think Jews would find it easier to recognize one another so that you could network and form some sort of group solidarity if there was an explicit and public means for everyone to recognize Jews, don’t you?

    • LOL: Autochthon
  114. @Jack D
    I should also note that Social Security is different in that it is (partly) funded by the contributions of the people who are later drawing pensions. In a guaranteed income scheme you would draw out without ever having paid in a cent in many cases.

    Social security always had a redistributionist aspect in that there is not a strict 1 for 1 accounting of individual contributions the way there is in say a 401(k) account but there was at least some requirement that you had to pay in before you could draw out.

    I should also note that Social Security is different in that it is (partly) funded by the contributions of the people who are later drawing pensions. In a guaranteed income scheme you would draw out without ever having paid in a cent in many cases.

    Social security always had a redistributionist aspect in that there is not a strict 1 for 1 accounting of individual contributions the way there is in say a 401(k) account but there was at least some requirement that you had to pay in before you could draw out.

    Several years ago the Bezos Blog ran a piece by a “wonk” who selected an average middle class American annual man’s payroll contributions in order to propose that he received SS and Medicare benefits over one hundred thousand dollars in excess of his contributions.

    An enterprising fellow in the comments did a conservative calculation accounting for the time value of his contributions and showed that the actual present dollar value of his total contributions was in excess of three million dollars, and that the government did in fact short change him to the tune of millions.

  115. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    Isn’t it likely that the Iraq war would still have been undertaken plus reparations?

  116. @PhysicistDave
    It needs to be said that this is stunningly insulting, patronizing, and degrading to the black folks in the room.

    Imagine you're one of those black people: the message is that the most important thing in the life of a contemporary black American is grotesque virtue signalling from white Americans about crimes that long-dead white Americans committed centuries ago.

    I didn't hear a word about things that actually matter to our black fellow citizens: dealing with the black-on-black crime rate, altering the education system so that it actually helps the working class (of any race), ending "crony capitalism" by which working people are peons fueling the lifestyle of the "credentialed" upper-middle class, etc.

    Yeah, the lady is very well-preserved. But, this is like something out of the Maoist Cultural Revolution. If only Tom Wolfe were still alive to skewer all this!

    She is using black people as props in a white-people's morality play.

    They are not props: they are human beings.

    It's disgusting.

    They are props in someone else’s religion. What’s especially pathetic is that some of them embrace this role.

    • Agree: PhysicistDave
  117. @vinteuil
    In, say, 2003, you didn't have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change - i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens - who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we're all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.

    You’d have to have been a bit slow. 17 year old me came to the opposite conclusion in the 90s after some tv watching, some reading, some contact, and some simple logic.

  118. @M_Young
    OT: But this "live feed" of Apollo 11 audio (liftoff was about 50 years + 3 hours ago) is too cool.

    https://apolloinrealtime.org/11/

    Thanks, that is awesome. The depth of the accents is really interesting. I don’t hear professional people speak that way at work much anymore; our accents all seem to be headed towards some kind of sterile NPR sound.

    • Agree: M_Young
  119. @Altai

    Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel "Sam" Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father's original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston's Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]
     
    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    Re: Williamson’s surname

    How do you get Netanyahu from Mileikowski?

    Netanyahu’s father was born and raised in Poland, and his
    original name was Mileikowski.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Netanyahu’s father was born and raised in Poland, and his original name was Mileikowski.

     

    Let's set up a pay-for-view home run hitting contest between Netty-Yahoo and Greg Luzinski.

    Luzinski was born in Chicago -- are there lots of Polish people out that way? I've heard it's windy in Chicago.

    Anybody ever seen Netty-Yahoo in person? Could Netty-Yahoo hit one out of the park with a wooden bat?

    Luzinski has 307 career home runs, impressive numbers.
  120. @International Jew
    Thanks for the update!
    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer; just as Sailer specializes in bringing stupid NYT articles to our attention and skewering them, a meta-Steve could do the same for the idiocy elsewhere at unz.com.

    What’s stopping you?

  121. @Diversity is Great!
    OFF TOPIC

    Uber will tie executive compensation to meeting diversity goals

    POSTED 10:54 PM, JULY 15, 2019,

    BY CNN WIRE

    Uber’s workforce may still be mostly white men, but the company says it is taking new measures to diversify its staff, especially managerial roles.

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    For the first time, Uber is setting some diversity and inclusion goals for 2022 that will be tied to the compensation of several of its senior executives — CEO Dara Khosrowshahi, chief financial officer Nelson Chai, chief legal officer Tony West, and chief people officer Nikki Krishnamurthy.

    Uber’s global headcount has grown tremendously in the past year: It had approximately 26,000 employees at the end of March 2019, up from 18,000 the year prior. This number does not include drivers, whom Uber does not classify as employees but instead, as independent contractors. Uber had 3.9 million drivers globally at the end of 2018.
     


    Uber is also testing a “Rooney Rule” approach for mid-career hires. The original National Football League policy required teams to interview minority candidates for coaching and operations-level roles. In the report, Uber chief diversity officer Bo Young Lee wrote that the goal is to expand the Rooney Rule approach to all its hires in the future.

    The company said it also plans to dig into more granular data in the coming months about its global workforce. It is collecting the information through a global self-ID survey where employees can voluntarily share information about their gender identity, veteran status, disabilities and caregiving status, in addition to answering questions about race, sexuality and socioeconomic status.

    However, Uber didn’t say in the report how many of its workers are on foreign work visas. Last year, it said 16% of US employees had work visas and that they represented 90 countries.
     


    Speaking generally about diversity reports, Allison Scott, chief research officer at the Kapor Center, told CNN Business that it is important companies continue to release reports so the public can know their demographics, and whether progress is being made.

    “The lack of significant progress indicates how deeply ingrained inequity in tech actually is, and indicates comprehensive approaches — not quick fixes — are needed,” Scott said. “We must ask ourselves, what are the negative consequences to companies when numbers don’t change or hiring goals are not reached?” (Kapor Center’s investment arm, Kapor Capital, invested in Uber in 2010.)

     

    :)

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.

    Which means that white men are actually underrepresented while Asians are vastly overrepresented, yet CNN tells an entirely different story.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    This needs to go in the Fake News Compendium, if there is such a thing.
  122. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    indecent and deranged

    Not to mention unheard-of, blasphemous and…and…and…un-British!

    Why is this kind of unsubtle sarcasm and old-maid-tut-tutting even necessary? Who cares about the ratio between theories that are probably right and ones that are probably wrong on unz.com? Are we losing points fighting the other websites?

    Personally I like a place that’s free enough to include crazies. I like seeing people be wrong, it makes me feel smart.

  123. @Redneck farmer
    Dude, seriously, get elected to Congress. We need you there.

    Thank you. I’d have an easier time moving to the executive branch. I did college GOP, and 15 years later see many old friends moving up the ranks. If Bannon had stayed I probably would have given it a shot.

  124. @SFG
    I doubt he's got the funds or wants to ruin his life doing that.

    In my case there were some liaisons with feminists that were entirely consensual (I have the texts!) but would no doubt become not so as soon as my platform became public.

    For Congress? Probably not worth their time. But save those texts!

  125. @prime noticer
    more like The Current Year:

    when Notre Dame burns down and 2 months later nobody can explain how or why.

    What about Vegas?

    ‘A guy’ shoots almost 500 people at a country music festival, with a setup that suggests very careful and conscious premeditation, but they have no idea why he did it?

    Start with the victims. Who would want to kill hundreds of country music fans? In October 2017, at the fever pitch of the Trump victory tantrum by the America-hating bolshevik left?

    Vegas, Notre Dame, the evasive coverage of the ICE attack. The ‘we may never know why’ narrative is the big tip off.

  126. @Oleaginous Outrager

    It’d have a highly stimulative impact on the economy.
     
    Giving taxpayer money to non-taxpayers is an idiotic way to "stimulate the economy", although not as idiotic as borrowing money to give to non-taxpayers, which is what would really be happening. It's the crack cocaine approach to economic revitalization: a quick, strong high followed by a precipitous withdrawal.


    "Universal basic income" appeals to "intellectuals" without any grasp of basic real world economics, especially the massive cost overheard of any government program, not to mention the multitudinous opportunities for graft and fraud.

    “Universal basic income” appeals to “intellectuals” without any grasp of basic real world economics, especially the massive cost overheard of any government program, not to mention the multitudinous opportunities for graft and fraud.

    The Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion(PCLP) will appeal to regular IQ people such as myself and the notion that something called “basic real world economics” is at play in the globalized world is laughable.

    There will be very little cost overhead to the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion because the existing US government electronic transfer system and check distribution system will be used.

    Multitudinous opportunities for graft and fraud will be minimized by the simplicity of the system. Harsh penalties including public execution by hanging or shooting or electrocution will dissuade those ineligible for the PCLP from even thinking about cheating the system.

    If you have all four grandparents born in the USA before 1924 you will receive ten thousand dollars a month from the US Treasury — tax free and clear of any other attachments or hooks from the US government.

    The US Treasury and the Federal Reserve Bank shall conjure the dollars out of thin air and direct them to each eligible American. Government bureaucrats and other clam-raking middlemen will be kept at a distance.

    White Core America leaders will immediately begin pooling a portion of the Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion to develop a nationwide militia system to take control of the electronic command and control of the US military. I expect 30 percent of the Whites in the US military to immediately side with White Core America to do what is necessary to legally remove the evil and immoral JEW/WASP ruling class from power.

    American International Group(AIG) was bailed out by the JEW/WASP ruling class using its control of the Federal Reserve Bank so that AIG could bail out Goldman Sachs. The banks got bailed out all over the globe by the privately-controlled Federal Reserve Bank but regular people got screwed over.

    The Pewitt Conjured Loot Portion will bring about the immediate halt to mass legal immigration and illegal immigration. The PCLP will result in the immediate mass deportation of 50 or 60 million foreigners and their spawn from the USA.

  127. Reparations is a done deal. Like gay marriage, trannies in bathrooms and girls sports and they as a pronoun,

    White peoples are a minority in our own countries and not feared either. So we will have no limit to paying and paying.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Aren't you the guy who told us that Obama would refuse to leave office at the end of his term? I think that your crystal ball may need some polishing before I am willing to make book on it. It's not over until the fat lady (Stacey Abrams?) sings. Right now there is a sort of race to the bottom among the 417 people vying for the Democrat nomination as to who can promise the most gibmedats to Democrat Party constituent groups but that's very different from passing a bill in both houses of Congress and having it signed by the President.
  128. @Anonymous

    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”
     
    Wouldn't it be interesting to know how historians arrived at the 6 million number? Yad Vashem counts 3 million, not 6 million, and even they have suggested that the names they have are not fully reliable.

    The Yad Vashem website says:

    Yad Vashem, together with its partners, has collected and recorded the names and biographical details of millions of victims of systematic anti-Jewish persecution during the Holocaust (Shoah) period. 4.8 of the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis and their accomplices are commemorated here.

    Shouldn’t you check these things first?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Never let the facts get in the way of your beliefs. You might as well try to reason with a member of the Flat Earth Society.
    , @Hippopotamusdrome


    Shouldn’t you check these things first?

     

    Are you directing that to Anonymous, or Yad Vashem?

    RIP Magda Goebbels, Edith Frolla, and Edith Shortbread, who perished in the Shoah.
    , @Anonymous
    Yad Vashem "commemorates 4.5 million." How did they arrive at 6 million?
  129. @Lot
    “How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?”

    That’s the Ukrainian or Russian spelling of the very common and sometimes noble Polish surname Wiśniowiecki, which is itself from wisnia = cherry tree.

    It isn’t a Jewish name to begin with, more like the Polish equivalent of Appleton.

    Ah so the V is pronounced like a W, makes more sense.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Actually, the other way 'round. Polish has the letter w but no letter v. The Polish w is pronounced like the English v.
  130. @anon

    Even if every last Jewish man, woman and child was a Yankee Slave trader it wouldn’t have been enough to run the slave trade.
     
    One person would have been enough to "run" the slave trade.

    Really? What was the name of this person (Jew)? Why is it unknown to us? Who has suppressed the identity of the Yankee Jewish slavery mastermind Grand Poobah, the Capo di Tutti i Capi of slavery? Surely not the Jews. If we could find his name then we could make his fabulously wealthy Sephardic descendants pay all of the reparations and leave people like me whose ancestors were busy camping out in the shtetl and avoiding the Russian draft until long after the last slave was freed the hell alone.

  131. @vinteuil
    Reply to Lot/July 16, 2019 at 7:59 am GMT

    (For some reason, comments I post as replies frequently fail to show up as replies)

    I assume you’ve heard of Bernard Lewis?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Lewis

    “In 2007 and 1999, respectively, Lewis was called “the West’s leading interpreter of the Middle East”[4] and “the most influential postwar historian of Islam and the Middle East”.[3] His advice was frequently sought by neoconservative policymakers, including the Bush administration.”

    I mean, c'mon, Lot. For years, before 9/11, I never gave a moment's thought to events in the Middle East. Couldn't have cared less about the endless Arab/Israeli squabble.

    But then 9/11 made it personal. So I sought out info from the experts. And there seemed to be two sides: the left, represented by Edward Said, and the right, represented by Bernard Lewis. Said was obviously a creep, so I sided with Lewis. Only much later did I realise that Lewis was just another cuck.

    The red pill doesn't go down easy.

    Right. You didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe those things. You had to be totally ignorant. And the job of the experts is to keep you ignorant.

    Meanwhile, in this corner of the Internet, you could find the true experts who knew ahead of time that the three items you listed were utter falsehoods.

    • Replies: @vinteuil

    You didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe those things. You had to be totally ignorant.
     
    So I guess you already believed, twenty years ago, that Muslims in general & Arabs in particular were hopeless stinkers, totally incapable of self-government.

    Congratulations on your perspicacity.
  132. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    Is there not some sort of middle ground? I mean, being a woman, I certainly understand your concerns. It seems to me that what is needed is not strict limits on what may be discussed, but rather

    high standards

    on how it is discussed. Evidence, reason, open-mindedness, civility, etc. would go a long way.

    • Replies: @Lot
    “Is there not some sort of middle ground?”

    Sure, unz.com circa 2014 before its namesake’s recent “transition.” I think he did great work too before that with the American Conservative.

    He said his goal was “perspectives usually ignored by our mainstream media.“ That’s pretty vague, but over time unique content like Razib’s and Frost’s was dropped and replaced with propaganda for foreign governments, in particular Russia, Iran, and China. While it is true that is “ignored” by the MSM, all of those nations have mature and well funded propaganda arms. Iran and Russia both have full-on English-language channels, PressTV and RT.

    The Chinese are much less skilled at propaganda, so I kind of appreciate Godfree Roberts offering their views transparently. But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.
  133. @Jack D
    Even putting aside overhead and graft, it's still a terrible idea. Social security is a form of universal basic income (and one that run on fairly low overhead and without much graft (especially the old age pension part of it) but the payments are made to people who are in the twilight of their life - they have already made productive contributions to the society and the feeling is that they deserve a rest (assuming that they are even still capable of working).

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits. Second, it deprives society of the potential production of these people. The wealth of a society is ultimately the sum of the goods and services produced - if people are sitting around, they aren't producing anything. A smaller and smaller % of productive people have to carry everyone. At some point this can't be sustained. And the idea that all of this stuff will be provided by robot factories so everyone else can stay home and play video games is stupid - that's not gonna work.

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits.

    Keep shaking your fist if you like, but UBI is only a matter of time. Automation is going to put too many people out of work.

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @Known Fact
    UBI, plus libs are talking about "baby bonds" so the freebies can start flowing right from birth.
    , @Jack D
    Just walking around my suburban neighborhood, let alone the inner city, I see lots of work that could be done and will never be done by robots - weeding the parks and filling in potholes and cleaning up graffiti and so on. If you are going to pay able bodied people anyway, I can think of lots of things that they could do that would be useful instead of having them sit on their ass and play video games. Tutor kids in the inner city. Read to old people. Anything.

    Maybe there are some people whose productivity in the private sector is only $11/hr but the government has decided that everyone should have a minimum income of $15/hr ($600/wk). Fine, have the private sector employer pay the guy $11 hr and the government will pay the other $4 - it's still cheaper than paying the same guy $600/hr to sit on his ass. Robots aren't free either - the only reason they are competitive is because the government is setting the minimum wage above the productivity of certain people.
    , @Anonymous
    You will need price controls, especially for businesses in poor communities, otherwise shopkeepers will hike their prices and people receiving UBI will be as poor as they were before.
  134. I thought it was interesting how the volume of the prayer dropped at 13:40. I feel like it’s easier for white people to feel guilt and apologize than feign appreciation for black culture.

  135. @Anon 2
    Re: Williamson’s surname

    How do you get Netanyahu from Mileikowski?

    Netanyahu’s father was born and raised in Poland, and his
    original name was Mileikowski.

    Netanyahu’s father was born and raised in Poland, and his original name was Mileikowski.

    Let’s set up a pay-for-view home run hitting contest between Netty-Yahoo and Greg Luzinski.

    Luzinski was born in Chicago — are there lots of Polish people out that way? I’ve heard it’s windy in Chicago.

    Anybody ever seen Netty-Yahoo in person? Could Netty-Yahoo hit one out of the park with a wooden bat?

    Luzinski has 307 career home runs, impressive numbers.

  136. @Henry's Cat
    The Yad Vashem website says:

    Yad Vashem, together with its partners, has collected and recorded the names and biographical details of millions of victims of systematic anti-Jewish persecution during the Holocaust (Shoah) period. 4.8 of the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis and their accomplices are commemorated here.
     
    Shouldn't you check these things first?

    Never let the facts get in the way of your beliefs. You might as well try to reason with a member of the Flat Earth Society.

  137. @anon

    Even if every last Jewish man, woman and child was a Yankee Slave trader it wouldn’t have been enough to run the slave trade.
     
    One person would have been enough to "run" the slave trade.

    Yankee Slave Trader Joe’s

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Yankee Slave Trader Joe’s
     
    Yankee Slave Trader Vic's has better juleps. And they'll pour them for you.
  138. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    Ronald Reagan was a complete and total whore for the Wasserman Gang!

    Ron Unz:

    Pat Brown reached the governorship in an upset against Chotiner’s Republican candidate in 1958, and then won reelection against Nixon in 1962, but lost in 1966 to newcomer Ronald Reagan. Reagan’s own political rise had been orchestrated by Hollywood mogul Lew Wasserman of MCA, yet another Chicago transplant. Wasserman together with his mentor Jules Stein also had decades of mob-ties stretching back to Al Capone himself, having regularly employed gangster muscle to strong-arm their business partners and suppress their competitors.

    The Bazelon Sisters Have Some Explaining To Do!

    Ron Unz:

    As I have discussed elsewhere, FDR’s desperate attempt to circumvent overwhelming public opposition to America’s involvement in World War II eventually led to his endless 1941 provocations against Japan, which successfully culminated in the attack on Pearl Harbor. Soon afterward, demagogic appeals by politicians and media pundits led much of the public to begin demanding the incarceration of all ethnic Japanese, U.S. citizens or not, and by early 1942 FDR signed an executive order shipping some 120,000 Japanese-Americans off to grim concentration camps, with those individuals sometimes being forced to leave their homes on very short notice. As a result, they lost nearly all the property they had steadily accumulated over two generations, most of which was either seized or otherwise ended up in government hands. Similar government edicts led to the confiscation of numerous German-owned businesses throughout America, many of which had enormously valuable assets.

    Within a couple of years, these federal holdings had swelled to include half a million acres of the state’s best farmland, some 1,265 small Japanese-owned hotels, and numerous urban parcels throughout Los Angeles, San Jose, and other cities. In 1942 the federal government estimated the value of these former Japanese-American properties at around $3 billion in present day dollars, but the huge postwar California economic and population boom would surely have greatly increased the worth of this real estate portfolio by the early 1950s. The business assets and patent holdings of the seized German companies were worth additional billions.

    Following the end of the war, all this property needed to be sold off, and powerful Chicago interests recognized this tremendous opportunity. The 1946 elections had produced a crushing national defeat for the ruling Democrats, with the Republicans regaining control of both houses of Congress for the first time since 1932. President Truman thus faced a desperate battle for reelection, and Chicago’s powerful political machine deployed its considerable political clout to place the sales process in the hands of David L. Bazelon, a young Chicago lawyer and leading Democratic fund-raiser with deep Syndicate ties. Bazelon had taken a pay cut of 80% to enter government service, but he soon boasted to the Washington Post that he had become “one of the largest businessmen in the country.” His motive quickly became apparent as he arranged the sale of assets for a fraction of their real value to his circle of Chicago friends and associates, sometimes apparently receiving a secret slice of the lucrative ownership stakes in return.

    Bazelon Sisters, Shake It!

  139. @Rosie

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits.
     
    Keep shaking your fist if you like, but UBI is only a matter of time. Automation is going to put too many people out of work.

    UBI, plus libs are talking about “baby bonds” so the freebies can start flowing right from birth.

  140. @Altai
    Ah so the V is pronounced like a W, makes more sense.

    Actually, the other way ’round. Polish has the letter w but no letter v. The Polish w is pronounced like the English v.

  141. @Jack D
    Approximately 50% of the population votes Democrat or liberal. Jews are less than 2% of the US population, as are gays. If you do the math on all of the minorities in the Coalition of the Fringes, it's still not enough to elect anyone without the support of good old fashioned white people who are still (for the time being at least) the largest segment of the population. If you try to explain away Leftism and self hatred by assuming that everyone who practices it is "not really American" then your explanation is going to be incomplete.

    What percentage of white democratic voters are Catholic?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Where have you been, Rip van Braxton? White Catholics have voted majority Republican since the 1970s. The Democrat love for abortion helped to tear a lot of Catholics away from the Democrat Party, not to mention their love of school busing. There's nothing that blue collar Catholics love better than to have a bunch of Negroes bused into their neighborhood schools courtesy of Democrat politicians. Trump received 52% of Catholics' votes compared to Clinton's 45%.
  142. @Rosie

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits.
     
    Keep shaking your fist if you like, but UBI is only a matter of time. Automation is going to put too many people out of work.

    Just walking around my suburban neighborhood, let alone the inner city, I see lots of work that could be done and will never be done by robots – weeding the parks and filling in potholes and cleaning up graffiti and so on. If you are going to pay able bodied people anyway, I can think of lots of things that they could do that would be useful instead of having them sit on their ass and play video games. Tutor kids in the inner city. Read to old people. Anything.

    Maybe there are some people whose productivity in the private sector is only $11/hr but the government has decided that everyone should have a minimum income of $15/hr ($600/wk). Fine, have the private sector employer pay the guy $11 hr and the government will pay the other $4 – it’s still cheaper than paying the same guy $600/hr to sit on his ass. Robots aren’t free either – the only reason they are competitive is because the government is setting the minimum wage above the productivity of certain people.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Economic productivity sets what businesses could pay, but not what they have to pay. For instance, there was a time when over the road truckload truck drivers made more than many helicopte pilot jobs. That was in the post-Vietnam late 70s when trucking was mostly ICC regulated. Getting started in trucking was tough but drivers made really good money, the Teamsters were doing well. Learning to fly helos as a civilian was prohibitively expensive (still is) but the Army let a very substantial number of helo pilots go after Vietnam.

    When under Reagan trucking was deregulated and companies interpreted PATCO as a license to bust unions, many new trucking jobs were created but at much lower pay rates, and except for drivers at the few LTL companies that survived, or specialized jobs like heavy hauling, trucker pay imploded. And the Vietnam glut of helo pilots evaporated as many gave up on flying, became fixed wing pilots and got airline jobs, or went to work in expanding offshore oil or life-flight EMS operations.

    A minimum wage raises pay of SOME workers as businesses decide they have to have some workers and will pay what's necessary, but also dries up some marginal jobs. Capital is diverted from crummy job creation and goes to better job creation. If companies have to pay $15/hour, some McDonald's franchises may close, but this will reduce the value of the land on which they sit, and make manufacturing investment more palatable. Singapore, for example, made some low value added manufacturing unprofitable and consequently improved the overall economy as capital went to better jobs.

    Also, a high minimum wage when enforced makes hiring some marginal workers, such as not very bright non Engish speaking Mesoamericans, uneconomic and they go home.
  143. @vinteuil
    In, say, 2003, you didn't have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change - i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens - who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we're all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.

    In, say, 2003, you didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change – i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    That’s anachronistic. That was a post-hoc justification for the invasion. Before the invasion, the only proffered justification was WMD’s (along with propaganda associating Saddam Hussein with the September 11 attacks). That’s how the invasion was sold to the public.

  144. @Whiskey
    Reparations is a done deal. Like gay marriage, trannies in bathrooms and girls sports and they as a pronoun,

    White peoples are a minority in our own countries and not feared either. So we will have no limit to paying and paying.

    Aren’t you the guy who told us that Obama would refuse to leave office at the end of his term? I think that your crystal ball may need some polishing before I am willing to make book on it. It’s not over until the fat lady (Stacey Abrams?) sings. Right now there is a sort of race to the bottom among the 417 people vying for the Democrat nomination as to who can promise the most gibmedats to Democrat Party constituent groups but that’s very different from passing a bill in both houses of Congress and having it signed by the President.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    Yes I underestimated the mans innate laziness vs his foreign elites hate Whites background.

    You can't deny every crazy social movement is reality. We have cop enforced tranny Story Hour at libraries. We have little boys dancing for gays in bars.

    At the root of it is the contempt White women have for their men and the indictment is that we are their equals.

    All the more damning because it is demonstrably true. Women by their nature can have nothing but contempt for equals. And seek out any other group of men to make them inferior that they can. Per Heartiste bless him men invade and women invite.

    Half or more of White women will sign on for reparations just so it screws over men their equals. Seriously do you see straight White men abasing themselves like that?

    Already Cuckservative #1 Mitt Romney is flirting with convicting Trump after impeachment which is now a slam dunk and is likely to call like most cucks for reparations. That is if he does not go all Chris Borous first. Williamson is rising in polls to upper single digits on the Eat Pray Love crowd. She's still fringe but more than Mayor Buttplug.

    We need a massive game changer like WWII to make White men high status and every one else low.
    , @Anonymous
    Right, candidates always say crazy things when contending for nomination. Party activists aren't the same as voters.

    I recall Trump saying a lot of wild things during the Republican primaries - that he was going to cut immigration, pull out of foreign wars, repatriate jobs, etc. Fringe, crazy stuff.
  145. @Tiny Duck
    She is invited to the cookout
    This should be mandatory

    I made my white male students do this at my old teaching job befits I was fired fur several reasons it is the rug thigh Gucci and it shies Black Male dominance

    I was fired fur several reasons it is the rug thigh Gucci

    Gucci has left fur behind.

    Gucci Bans Fur: ‘It’s Not Modern’

  146. The Current Year

    Well, actually, from 2016:

    One of the Car Talk brothers maintained that after a certain age, years start to melt into One Big Year.

    Congratulations on reaching that milestone.

  147. @Richard S
    Very well put. Her audience isn’t black Americans of course, it’s deluded “liberals” who adopt the outward form of multi-racial empathy as a feel-good abstraction.

    Still .. at least Williamson is just a daft hippy chick and not a hateful, cynical liar like so many of her colleagues.. She seems like a sincere woman.

    I personally think a joint Trump/Tulsi “Patriotic Peace” ticket in 2020 would be amazing. When the Democrat leadership schemes to kick her out in the primaries, Trump should seriously consider bringing her on board as a foreign affairs advisor or something. *That* would be clever politics.

    Trump should seriously consider bringing her on board as a foreign affairs advisor or something. *That* would be clever politics.

    You could be on to something here. Tulsa Gabbard’s Hotness vs. Wokeness quotient is quite large.

  148. @vinteuil
    I used to try to inject a note of skepticism into some of those threads, but who needs being mobbed?

    Give the pathological jew-haters free reign, and before long everybody else leaves.

    From alexa & the wayback machine, it looks like everybody else has been mostly arriving, on both a relative and absolute basis, for the last few years.

  149. @Henry's Cat
    The Yad Vashem website says:

    Yad Vashem, together with its partners, has collected and recorded the names and biographical details of millions of victims of systematic anti-Jewish persecution during the Holocaust (Shoah) period. 4.8 of the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis and their accomplices are commemorated here.
     
    Shouldn't you check these things first?

    Shouldn’t you check these things first?

    Are you directing that to Anonymous, or Yad Vashem?

    RIP Magda Goebbels, Edith Frolla, and Edith Shortbread, who perished in the Shoah.

  150. @vinteuil
    In, say, 2003, you didn't have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    (2) Through its past cozying up to tyrants like the Shah of Iran, Anastasio Somoza, P.W. Botha, Saddam Hussein, &c, the U.S. has prevented the peoples of the world from succeeding at liberal democracy.

    (3) So the U.S. should shift its policy to regime change - i.e., supporting pro-democratic forces that seek to overthrow these tyrants.

    I think this was more or less the position of, for example, Christopher Hitchens - who, whatever else you can say about him, was not stupid, and was not nuts.

    Of course, we're all older, and some of us are wiser, now. Hindsight is better than foresight.

    In, say, 2003, you didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe:

    (1) All the peoples of the world, including Arabs, could succeed at liberal democracy, if given the chance.

    You had to be pretty ignorant, though. For example, Africa had been decolonized for decades by 2003.

  151. @Jack D

    the Jewish Yankee slave traders who brought them hence
     
    What % of slave traders were Jewish Yankees? 99%? 110%? Six out out of every 5? The entire US Jewish population in 1808, the year that slave importation ended, was less than 3,000 (mostly Sephardi) Jews out of 7 million Americans. Even if every last Jewish man, woman and child was a Yankee Slave trader it wouldn't have been enough to run the slave trade.

    the tiny, tiny minority of Southerners who purchased and employed them
     
    The 1860 census shows that in the (soon to be) Confederate states, 32 % of white families owned slaves. In some states it was much more (46% in South Carolina, 49% in Mississippi). Is this what you call a "tiny, tiny minority"?

    "Fantasize" is the right word because you are imagining a fantasy South that never existed. White people are not ONLY to blame for slavery but they sure as hell deserve a good PART of the blame.

    Your 3,000 figure is low.

    • Replies: @Lot
    I told him this too before about the 3,000 number.

    Exact counts are hard because of rapid assimilation. Indeed, I doubt a single pure-bred colonial-stock Sephardi is left in the entire USA.

    Alexander Hamilton’s half brother was 50% or more Sephardi. Yet he was a Christian parishioner after settling in the USA. Count him or not? I don’t know.
    , @Jack D
    Show me a better number that has real sources. Jew counting is hard ("Who is a Jew?") but whatever the # was it was very low in comparison to what would happen later on when millions of Ostjuden started pouring in from E. Europe.

    It's like comparing Latinos in the US today vs. the 1940s - the quantity and quality (and quantity has its own quality) is of a different order of magnitude and so was their relative impact on and significance to the culture (good or bad). Mexican in the US in 1940 meant Ricardo Montalban and today it means a zillion peasants - the word is the same but it signifies something quite different.

    As Lot says, today's American Jews are literally not biologically related to those Jews, whose descendants assimilated and converted to Christianity 5 or 10 generations ago, so today's American Jews deserve neither blame nor credit for what Don Alfonso did in 1763. You are more likely to be related to Don Alfonso than I am.

  152. Anonymous[156] • Disclaimer says:
    @JohnnyWalker123
    Social desirability bias.

    People give pollsters the answers that they want to hear.

    From my experience, White liberals have no particular racial bias. Under normal circumstances, they'd be at zero. However, due to Jewish control of the media/intelligentsia, White liberals feel that they have to show contrition about their racial heritage.

    White conservatives are ethnocentric to some extent, but they often hide it because White racial pride is extremely demonized in today's America. A lot of White conservative support of overseas wars is based on racial pride. A lot of White conservative support of Israel (which they think is a White pro-Christian outpost in the Middle Eastern) is due to racial pride. If White conservatives spent more time reading and less time watching the FOX News propaganda feed, they'd realize an immigration moratorium (combined with some type of pro-natalist policy similar to what exists in Israel) would be infinitely more helpful to them than cheering on Israeli aggression.

    Yes, “white guilt” is a misnomer– if you go to the mid-size municipalities actually run by the whitelib bourgeoisie, e.g. Boulder, Santa Fe, both Portlands, they’re quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior. It’s just that a key component of this standard is *being seen* as penitential and ostentatiously grieved over the supposedly malevolent workings of White evil spirits.

    The appearance for mutual solidarity is what’s important, they don’t sincerely buy into this atonement show.

    • Replies: @HammerJack

    they’re quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior.
     
    Oh no they're not. They're adamant about white people adhering to that standard.
    , @dfordoom

    Yes, “white guilt” is a misnomer– if you go to the mid-size municipalities actually run by the whitelib bourgeoisie, e.g. Boulder, Santa Fe, both Portlands, they’re quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior. It’s just that a key component of this standard is *being seen* as penitential and ostentatiously grieved over the supposedly malevolent workings of White evil spirits.
     
    Wealthy white liberals want to stay safe and wealthy. Pretending to be Woke is a small price to pay to ensure that you keep your wealth and your privilege and your nice safe white neighbourhoods.
    , @bomag
    That was good.
  153. @JohnnyWalker123
    You're correct about this, but the people agitating for more reparations wouldn't neccessarily be who you might think.

    Watch 1:00-1:10.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczW1gIRBjY

    I actually don't think reparations will ever pass. 81% of Whites oppose the idea. That's why even liberal Democrats (like Obama) never proposed reparations.

    Reparations actually isn't the worst idea out there by any means, as it's similar to the "universal basic income" plan that's being advocated by many intellectuals and political candidates (like Andrew Yang). It'd have a highly stimulative impact on the economy. The major problem with reparations mainly would be that it's too limited. Ideally, it'd be expanded to Whites and other races too.

    Reparations actually isn’t the worst idea out there by any means, as it’s similar to the “universal basic income” plan that’s being advocated by many intellectuals and political candidates (like Andrew Yang).

    No, it’s entirely different. UBI is for everyone, not a privileged minority.

  154. Agree. And how dominant Southern, Southwestern, Okie accents are. Collins is the only one with a really ‘Middle America Standard’ accent that I can hear. Even Armstrong has a southern twinge.

  155. @SFG
    I doubt he's got the funds or wants to ruin his life doing that.

    In my case there were some liaisons with feminists that were entirely consensual (I have the texts!) but would no doubt become not so as soon as my platform became public.

    Yeah, I’m in the same compromised position, and probably will become moreso by the time I meet the age requirements. I don’t think I really have the personality required, anyway: Nixon showed what happened when you tried to forcibly pull that off. It really caused him difficulties. He seemed truly happier in the last decade of his life when he could do something more natural.

    Plus side, though, I don’t have to pretend to have answers that I don’t have. (Though, really, a politician admitting that would probably give him a ring of authenticity that would prove golden in today’s age.) And when history calls me, I won’t have to grovel in front of donors before I screw them.

  156. @PhysicistDave
    It needs to be said that this is stunningly insulting, patronizing, and degrading to the black folks in the room.

    Imagine you're one of those black people: the message is that the most important thing in the life of a contemporary black American is grotesque virtue signalling from white Americans about crimes that long-dead white Americans committed centuries ago.

    I didn't hear a word about things that actually matter to our black fellow citizens: dealing with the black-on-black crime rate, altering the education system so that it actually helps the working class (of any race), ending "crony capitalism" by which working people are peons fueling the lifestyle of the "credentialed" upper-middle class, etc.

    Yeah, the lady is very well-preserved. But, this is like something out of the Maoist Cultural Revolution. If only Tom Wolfe were still alive to skewer all this!

    She is using black people as props in a white-people's morality play.

    They are not props: they are human beings.

    It's disgusting.

    There’s really nothing so disgusting as an upper-middle class bien-pensant.

  157. Lot says:
    @Rosie

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.
     
    Is there not some sort of middle ground? I mean, being a woman, I certainly understand your concerns. It seems to me that what is needed is not strict limits on what may be discussed, but rather

    high standards
     
    on how it is discussed. Evidence, reason, open-mindedness, civility, etc. would go a long way.

    “Is there not some sort of middle ground?”

    Sure, unz.com circa 2014 before its namesake’s recent “transition.” I think he did great work too before that with the American Conservative.

    He said his goal was “perspectives usually ignored by our mainstream media.“ That’s pretty vague, but over time unique content like Razib’s and Frost’s was dropped and replaced with propaganda for foreign governments, in particular Russia, Iran, and China. While it is true that is “ignored” by the MSM, all of those nations have mature and well funded propaganda arms. Iran and Russia both have full-on English-language channels, PressTV and RT.

    The Chinese are much less skilled at propaganda, so I kind of appreciate Godfree Roberts offering their views transparently. But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    Definition of agitprop: “especially : political propaganda promulgated chiefly in literature, drama, music, or art.”
    “But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.”
    ??
    We know the Russians have a few outlets like RT for communicating their positions, but please cite examples of all this Russian agitprop saturating the internet. Note; assertions by the Lugenpresse that everything on the internet they disagree with has to be Russian bots, don’t count.
    What is the proportion of pro-Russian agitprop in our media to anti-Russian agitprop? 1:100? 1:1,000?
    , @Hypnotoad666

    The Chinese are much less skilled at propaganda, so I kind of appreciate Godfree Roberts offering their views transparently. But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.
     
    As I think your comment recognizes propaganda can be very informative in its own right, as long as you're aware of what you are consuming. For example, people used to learn a lot about the Kremlin from reading Pravda.

    Someone (I think it was on Unz) recently published an article on the Honk Kong extradition protests. It was clearly coming straight from the ChiComs, but I have to admit I thought it was an informative and fair counter-programming to the Western MSM's Good vs. Evil narrative.

    Maybe the best way to get a "middle ground" in the current environment would be to systematically analyze the propaganda of both sides by stripping away the talking points, fake outage and evasions and just getting down to the actual facts and the philosophical disputes about what they mean. To do that fairly with no Taboos would be a pretty interesting enterprise that would attract a lot of free thinking people.
  158. Lot says:
    @ben tillman
    Your 3,000 figure is low.

    I told him this too before about the 3,000 number.

    Exact counts are hard because of rapid assimilation. Indeed, I doubt a single pure-bred colonial-stock Sephardi is left in the entire USA.

    Alexander Hamilton’s half brother was 50% or more Sephardi. Yet he was a Christian parishioner after settling in the USA. Count him or not? I don’t know.

  159. @Whiskey
    Women and gays love that stuff. Men not so much.

    So did the prayer work? Are white people now forgiven?

    If so, all this reparations stuff is moot.

  160. @Lot
    Speaking of the ((())) problem, Unz Review writer Phil Giraldi finally came out today as a skeptic of the “the alleged holocaust.”

    http://www.unz.com/pgiraldi/teaching-holocaust/


    Mr. Unz himself has moved on from Holohoax denial to exposing the multiple murders Harry Truman was
    involved in his campaign for the US Senate, as well as Truman taking orders from Al Capone’s organization, a “supermob” actually run by Jews, to name Tom Clark to the Supreme Court:

    “Pendergast later decided to elevate Truman to the U.S. Senate mostly to gain protection from the backlash over the recent local murder of four federal agents, and Truman’s victorious Senate campaign had involved several additional killings. Over the course of the Truman Administration, Attorney-General Tom Clark was apparently promoted to the Supreme Court in exchange for arranging the early release of a top Capone lieutenant who was then serving time in federal prison”

    Another Unzer, Paul Craig Roberts, devotes his latest to Sandy Hook skepticism. Some people would say it is indecent and deranged to publish accusations that the parents of murdered children are faking their deaths as part of false flag scheme to promote gun control. And those people would be Jews, so obviously not.

    http://www.unz.com/proberts/sandy-hook-puzzles/
    http://www.unz.com/proberts/who-remembers-the-sandy-hook-school-shootings/

    With such fine minds at work, it will only be a matter of time before the Jew is finally exposed, and in the meanwhile there’s no possible downside in these brave, completely sane men being associated with the people who believe crazy things like the existence of IQ and its hereditary basis.

    There would be no downside to you stopping trying to subvert the alt-right with your Jewish Supremacism.

  161. @Anonymous
    FWIW, she's beating Beto, Cory Booker, and Gillibrand in the polls right now:

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/new-hampshire-poll-has-williamson-polling-ahead-of-booker-gillibrand-and-orourke/

    To begin with, Marianne Williamson saw a jump of 1.5 points, putting her at 2% and is polling ahead of Booker, Gillibrand, Gabbard, Inslee, and O’Rourke (who polled at 0%)

    I guess Fake Mexicans don’t sell in New Hampshire.
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/new-hampshire-poll-has-williamson-polling-ahead-of-booker-gillibrand-and-orourke/

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    I guess Fake Mexicans don’t sell in New Hampshire.

     

    New Hampshire Democrat Party presidential primary voters have an extreme disinterest in voting for any candidate who is prone to jumping on counters. The mud seasons in New Hampshire are severe and the mud gets on the bottom of ones shoes.

    The Ritalin kid named Beto O'Rourke is well known for jumping on cars and counters and counter tops and anything else he can jump on.

    Beto O'Rourke will have to go on camera -- with his wife, like Bill Clinton did -- and pledge to never jump up onto any more counters or counter tops or cars. Then and only then will New Hampshire voters consider voting for him.

    Teddy Cruz almost lost the US Senate seat to this Beto O'Rourke guy. Mass legal immigration and illegal immigration will kill the Republican Party in Texas like it did in California.

    Tulsi Gabbard is much too refined and composed to jump on countertops or cars. Gabbard gets rid of excess steam by doing that Brazilian Cowperthwaite exercise routine.

    Get the Hell off that countertop and away from my Bundt cake, Beto O'Rourke, you filthy mud-clodded bastard!

    https://twitter.com/Stacking_Things/status/1108003395808317440
  162. @ben tillman
    Your 3,000 figure is low.

    Show me a better number that has real sources. Jew counting is hard (“Who is a Jew?”) but whatever the # was it was very low in comparison to what would happen later on when millions of Ostjuden started pouring in from E. Europe.

    It’s like comparing Latinos in the US today vs. the 1940s – the quantity and quality (and quantity has its own quality) is of a different order of magnitude and so was their relative impact on and significance to the culture (good or bad). Mexican in the US in 1940 meant Ricardo Montalban and today it means a zillion peasants – the word is the same but it signifies something quite different.

    As Lot says, today’s American Jews are literally not biologically related to those Jews, whose descendants assimilated and converted to Christianity 5 or 10 generations ago, so today’s American Jews deserve neither blame nor credit for what Don Alfonso did in 1763. You are more likely to be related to Don Alfonso than I am.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    'Parshat bamidbar' prohibits the actual counting of Jews.

    "And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which shall neither be measured nor counted." Something about counting them being a sort of judgement or something. Or counting them as individuals detracts from their unity, which they have as their connection to the Source.

    If you want a count, everyone gives a half shekel and then you count the shekels. I shit you not.

    Or you count noses, fingers, and so on. And you have to have a purpose; even if you count indirectly it's forbidden without a purpose. David counted his people and brought on a plague, etc

    There's no pleasing some people, as Jesus might have said.
  163. OT – Scotland, with its woke administration, has a slightly higher rate of drug deaths (incl painkillers etc) than the US .

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/jul/16/scotland-records-huge-rise-in-drug-related-deaths

    Scotland’s drug-related death toll has increased by 27% over the past year to reach a record high of 1,187, putting the country on a par in terms of the fatality rate per capita with the United States, where synthetic opioids such as fentanyl have devastated drug-using populations.

    The death rate is now more than three times that of England and Wales, and has more than doubled since 2008, when there were 574 deaths. It is higher than any other EU country.

    According to the latest annual figures, published on Tuesday morning, most of the increase in fatalities was in the over-35 age-group, the so-called “Trainspotting generation” of ageing, long-term users, although there was also a rise in deaths among younger people.

    Heroin, methadone or codeine were implicated 86% of deaths.

    Scotland also has a per capita homicide rate twice that of England and Wales – impressive when you think that vibrancy contributes something like a quarter of the English total.

    PS – is Sailer now a source for the Daily Mail? Steve blogged about this a couple of weeks back.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7251975/Footage-captures-trains-strapped-explosives-crashing-90mph-entertain-huge-crowds.html

  164. @Lot
    “Is there not some sort of middle ground?”

    Sure, unz.com circa 2014 before its namesake’s recent “transition.” I think he did great work too before that with the American Conservative.

    He said his goal was “perspectives usually ignored by our mainstream media.“ That’s pretty vague, but over time unique content like Razib’s and Frost’s was dropped and replaced with propaganda for foreign governments, in particular Russia, Iran, and China. While it is true that is “ignored” by the MSM, all of those nations have mature and well funded propaganda arms. Iran and Russia both have full-on English-language channels, PressTV and RT.

    The Chinese are much less skilled at propaganda, so I kind of appreciate Godfree Roberts offering their views transparently. But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.

    Definition of agitprop: “especially : political propaganda promulgated chiefly in literature, drama, music, or art.”
    “But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.”
    ??
    We know the Russians have a few outlets like RT for communicating their positions, but please cite examples of all this Russian agitprop saturating the internet. Note; assertions by the Lugenpresse that everything on the internet they disagree with has to be Russian bots, don’t count.
    What is the proportion of pro-Russian agitprop in our media to anti-Russian agitprop? 1:100? 1:1,000?

  165. @Lot
    “Is there not some sort of middle ground?”

    Sure, unz.com circa 2014 before its namesake’s recent “transition.” I think he did great work too before that with the American Conservative.

    He said his goal was “perspectives usually ignored by our mainstream media.“ That’s pretty vague, but over time unique content like Razib’s and Frost’s was dropped and replaced with propaganda for foreign governments, in particular Russia, Iran, and China. While it is true that is “ignored” by the MSM, all of those nations have mature and well funded propaganda arms. Iran and Russia both have full-on English-language channels, PressTV and RT.

    The Chinese are much less skilled at propaganda, so I kind of appreciate Godfree Roberts offering their views transparently. But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.

    The Chinese are much less skilled at propaganda, so I kind of appreciate Godfree Roberts offering their views transparently. But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.

    As I think your comment recognizes propaganda can be very informative in its own right, as long as you’re aware of what you are consuming. For example, people used to learn a lot about the Kremlin from reading Pravda.

    Someone (I think it was on Unz) recently published an article on the Honk Kong extradition protests. It was clearly coming straight from the ChiComs, but I have to admit I thought it was an informative and fair counter-programming to the Western MSM’s Good vs. Evil narrative.

    Maybe the best way to get a “middle ground” in the current environment would be to systematically analyze the propaganda of both sides by stripping away the talking points, fake outage and evasions and just getting down to the actual facts and the philosophical disputes about what they mean. To do that fairly with no Taboos would be a pretty interesting enterprise that would attract a lot of free thinking people.

    • Agree: Lot
    • Replies: @William Badwhite

    As I think your comment recognizes propaganda can be very informative in its own right, as long as you’re aware of what you are consuming.
     
    Agreed.

    Also, I'm curious as to why RT is considered propaganda but the NYT, Washington Post, CNN, etc are not.
  166. Anonymous[182] • Disclaimer says:
    @Oleaginous Outrager
    How can anyone control their penis and/or anus whilst suffering under the terror of trickle-down economics, you bigot?

    Don’t mention the Santorum.

  167. @prime noticer
    holy F. even this chick is one of (them). that's just crazy insane. even i didn't suspect her.

    what in the F.

    we're surrounded on all sides.

    Son, I like you.

  168. @Hypnotoad666

    To begin with, Marianne Williamson saw a jump of 1.5 points, putting her at 2% and is polling ahead of Booker, Gillibrand, Gabbard, Inslee, and O’Rourke (who polled at 0%)
     
    I guess Fake Mexicans don't sell in New Hampshire.
    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/new-hampshire-poll-has-williamson-polling-ahead-of-booker-gillibrand-and-orourke/

    I guess Fake Mexicans don’t sell in New Hampshire.

    New Hampshire Democrat Party presidential primary voters have an extreme disinterest in voting for any candidate who is prone to jumping on counters. The mud seasons in New Hampshire are severe and the mud gets on the bottom of ones shoes.

    The Ritalin kid named Beto O’Rourke is well known for jumping on cars and counters and counter tops and anything else he can jump on.

    Beto O’Rourke will have to go on camera — with his wife, like Bill Clinton did — and pledge to never jump up onto any more counters or counter tops or cars. Then and only then will New Hampshire voters consider voting for him.

    Teddy Cruz almost lost the US Senate seat to this Beto O’Rourke guy. Mass legal immigration and illegal immigration will kill the Republican Party in Texas like it did in California.

    Tulsi Gabbard is much too refined and composed to jump on countertops or cars. Gabbard gets rid of excess steam by doing that Brazilian Cowperthwaite exercise routine.

    Get the Hell off that countertop and away from my Bundt cake, Beto O’Rourke, you filthy mud-clodded bastard!

  169. @Hypnotoad666

    The Chinese are much less skilled at propaganda, so I kind of appreciate Godfree Roberts offering their views transparently. But Russian agitprop is everywhere on the Internet and generally manipulative rather than an honest presentation.
     
    As I think your comment recognizes propaganda can be very informative in its own right, as long as you're aware of what you are consuming. For example, people used to learn a lot about the Kremlin from reading Pravda.

    Someone (I think it was on Unz) recently published an article on the Honk Kong extradition protests. It was clearly coming straight from the ChiComs, but I have to admit I thought it was an informative and fair counter-programming to the Western MSM's Good vs. Evil narrative.

    Maybe the best way to get a "middle ground" in the current environment would be to systematically analyze the propaganda of both sides by stripping away the talking points, fake outage and evasions and just getting down to the actual facts and the philosophical disputes about what they mean. To do that fairly with no Taboos would be a pretty interesting enterprise that would attract a lot of free thinking people.

    As I think your comment recognizes propaganda can be very informative in its own right, as long as you’re aware of what you are consuming.

    Agreed.

    Also, I’m curious as to why RT is considered propaganda but the NYT, Washington Post, CNN, etc are not.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    The Russians are just not as skillful as Americans when it comes to propaganda (at least in English). American propaganda is so slick and well produced that we regard it as the truth whereas in Russian sponsored propaganda it's obvious to all but a few hayseeds that they are spouting propaganda and half-truths. Russians really need to up their game so that it is not so comically obvious when they are lying. "I am genuine American type person by name of Alexander Hamilton. You should be having no doubt about zis. I am plizzed to be selling you Bridge of Brooklyn. You are liking perhaps to buy bridge for excellent price?"
  170. @William Badwhite

    As I think your comment recognizes propaganda can be very informative in its own right, as long as you’re aware of what you are consuming.
     
    Agreed.

    Also, I'm curious as to why RT is considered propaganda but the NYT, Washington Post, CNN, etc are not.

    The Russians are just not as skillful as Americans when it comes to propaganda (at least in English). American propaganda is so slick and well produced that we regard it as the truth whereas in Russian sponsored propaganda it’s obvious to all but a few hayseeds that they are spouting propaganda and half-truths. Russians really need to up their game so that it is not so comically obvious when they are lying. “I am genuine American type person by name of Alexander Hamilton. You should be having no doubt about zis. I am plizzed to be selling you Bridge of Brooklyn. You are liking perhaps to buy bridge for excellent price?”

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    The Chinese are even worse at it.

    Merriam Webster defines propaganda as:

    1 : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
    2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
    3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one's cause or to damage an opposing cause


    1 does not apply (obviously) but 2 and 3 clearly apply to a number of major media outlets today. In fact I'd say entities like the NYT go further than merely selectively picking facts and repeatedly tell lies (e.g. the Michael Brown fiasco).

    I just now clicked on the Washington Post op-ed section. The first three columns are:

    - Trump is a racist president (President was not capitalized)
    - The crisis at the border is only a crisis because the administration is choosing it to be
    - Trump’s racist tweets are one of the lowest moments of his presidency

    Ok, fine op-eds are at least labeled as such. Lets go to the news. The very first article is:

    - Trump lashes out ahead of House vote to condemn his racist tweets

    Not tweets but "racist" tweets. Trump doesn't respond, rather he "lashes out".

    Its incessant and much less subtle than anything RT tries to pull.
    , @Lot
    “The Russians are just not as skillful as Americans when it comes to propaganda (at least in English). ”

    They are certainly getting better, RT is pretty slick.
  171. @International Jew
    Thanks for the update!
    Maybe what we need is a meta-SteveSailer; just as Sailer specializes in bringing stupid NYT articles to our attention and skewering them, a meta-Steve could do the same for the idiocy elsewhere at unz.com.

    Yeah cause those are totally the same thing.

  172. Partially on, partially off topic:

    • LOL: L Woods
    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Yes, but a brilliant Nazi.
  173. @Jack D
    The Russians are just not as skillful as Americans when it comes to propaganda (at least in English). American propaganda is so slick and well produced that we regard it as the truth whereas in Russian sponsored propaganda it's obvious to all but a few hayseeds that they are spouting propaganda and half-truths. Russians really need to up their game so that it is not so comically obvious when they are lying. "I am genuine American type person by name of Alexander Hamilton. You should be having no doubt about zis. I am plizzed to be selling you Bridge of Brooklyn. You are liking perhaps to buy bridge for excellent price?"

    The Chinese are even worse at it.

    Merriam Webster defines propaganda as:

    1 : a congregation of the Roman curia having jurisdiction over missionary territories and related institutions
    2 : the spreading of ideas, information, or rumor for the purpose of helping or injuring an institution, a cause, or a person
    3 : ideas, facts, or allegations spread deliberately to further one’s cause or to damage an opposing cause

    1 does not apply (obviously) but 2 and 3 clearly apply to a number of major media outlets today. In fact I’d say entities like the NYT go further than merely selectively picking facts and repeatedly tell lies (e.g. the Michael Brown fiasco).

    I just now clicked on the Washington Post op-ed section. The first three columns are:

    – Trump is a racist president (President was not capitalized)
    – The crisis at the border is only a crisis because the administration is choosing it to be
    – Trump’s racist tweets are one of the lowest moments of his presidency

    Ok, fine op-eds are at least labeled as such. Lets go to the news. The very first article is:

    – Trump lashes out ahead of House vote to condemn his racist tweets

    Not tweets but “racist” tweets. Trump doesn’t respond, rather he “lashes out”.

    Its incessant and much less subtle than anything RT tries to pull.

  174. @Jack D
    Aren't you the guy who told us that Obama would refuse to leave office at the end of his term? I think that your crystal ball may need some polishing before I am willing to make book on it. It's not over until the fat lady (Stacey Abrams?) sings. Right now there is a sort of race to the bottom among the 417 people vying for the Democrat nomination as to who can promise the most gibmedats to Democrat Party constituent groups but that's very different from passing a bill in both houses of Congress and having it signed by the President.

    Yes I underestimated the mans innate laziness vs his foreign elites hate Whites background.

    You can’t deny every crazy social movement is reality. We have cop enforced tranny Story Hour at libraries. We have little boys dancing for gays in bars.

    At the root of it is the contempt White women have for their men and the indictment is that we are their equals.

    All the more damning because it is demonstrably true. Women by their nature can have nothing but contempt for equals. And seek out any other group of men to make them inferior that they can. Per Heartiste bless him men invade and women invite.

    Half or more of White women will sign on for reparations just so it screws over men their equals. Seriously do you see straight White men abasing themselves like that?

    Already Cuckservative #1 Mitt Romney is flirting with convicting Trump after impeachment which is now a slam dunk and is likely to call like most cucks for reparations. That is if he does not go all Chris Borous first. Williamson is rising in polls to upper single digits on the Eat Pray Love crowd. She’s still fringe but more than Mayor Buttplug.

    We need a massive game changer like WWII to make White men high status and every one else low.

  175. @Known Fact
    Yankee Slave Trader Joe's

    Yankee Slave Trader Joe’s

    Yankee Slave Trader Vic’s has better juleps. And they’ll pour them for you.

  176. @James Braxton
    What percentage of white democratic voters are Catholic?

    Where have you been, Rip van Braxton? White Catholics have voted majority Republican since the 1970s. The Democrat love for abortion helped to tear a lot of Catholics away from the Democrat Party, not to mention their love of school busing. There’s nothing that blue collar Catholics love better than to have a bunch of Negroes bused into their neighborhood schools courtesy of Democrat politicians. Trump received 52% of Catholics’ votes compared to Clinton’s 45%.

  177. @Jack D
    This man is an idiot. The process of assimilation was not far along in Poland and E. Europe where the Nazis did most of their Jew killing. Poland 1941 was not America 2019. Intermarriage was rare. His estimate that 80% of the Jews of Europe were not Jewish according to Orthodox standards is off by an order of magnitude at least. Mizrahi has since backed away from his idiocy.

    https://www.haaretz.com/jewish/u-s-rabbi-apologizes-for-holocaust-statement-1.5385387

    Have you?

    Why should he back away from questioning the impossible Holohaux narrative?

    Typical of a Jew to encourage censorship

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.
  178. @Jack D
    Show me a better number that has real sources. Jew counting is hard ("Who is a Jew?") but whatever the # was it was very low in comparison to what would happen later on when millions of Ostjuden started pouring in from E. Europe.

    It's like comparing Latinos in the US today vs. the 1940s - the quantity and quality (and quantity has its own quality) is of a different order of magnitude and so was their relative impact on and significance to the culture (good or bad). Mexican in the US in 1940 meant Ricardo Montalban and today it means a zillion peasants - the word is the same but it signifies something quite different.

    As Lot says, today's American Jews are literally not biologically related to those Jews, whose descendants assimilated and converted to Christianity 5 or 10 generations ago, so today's American Jews deserve neither blame nor credit for what Don Alfonso did in 1763. You are more likely to be related to Don Alfonso than I am.

    ‘Parshat bamidbar’ prohibits the actual counting of Jews.

    “And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which shall neither be measured nor counted.” Something about counting them being a sort of judgement or something. Or counting them as individuals detracts from their unity, which they have as their connection to the Source.

    If you want a count, everyone gives a half shekel and then you count the shekels. I shit you not.

    Or you count noses, fingers, and so on. And you have to have a purpose; even if you count indirectly it’s forbidden without a purpose. David counted his people and brought on a plague, etc

    There’s no pleasing some people, as Jesus might have said.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Jeez, I wish people around here would check stuff before spouting off. Parsha B'Midbar (in the desert) says exactly the opposite:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+1%3A1-4%3A20&version=CJB

    The Lord spoke to Moses in the tent of meeting in the Desert of Sinai on the first day of the second month of the second year after the Israelites came out of Egypt. He said: “Take a census of the whole Israelite community by their clans and families, listing every man by name, one by one. .... The total number was 603,550.

     

    No shekels involved. How hard is it to check nowadays before you repeat something you read on stormfront?

    The quote you give is from Hosea:

    https://biblehub.com/hosea/1-10.htm

    Hosea (as prophets will do) is just prophesying that someday the # of Jewish people will be a very large # - literally "too many to count" - that's all. He's not saying that counting is forbidden.

    , @HammerJack
    "That's just what Jesus said!"

    One of the best movie jokes ever.
  179. @CCZ
    Partially on, partially off topic:

    https://twitter.com/WTOP/status/1151177658702737408

    Yes, but a brilliant Nazi.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    We've employed way worse for far less value.
  180. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Altai

    Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel "Sam" Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father's original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston's Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]
     
    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    mimesis. useful to extract resources. heat gets to hot you get out of dodge and your back ivan vishenetsky

  181. @ben tillman

    The newly public ride-hailing company released on Monday its latest diversity report, which included a breakdown of its US workforce by race or ethnicity and gender. White men still make up most of its staff (30.1%), a pattern that is even more evident in leadership, tech, and leadership in tech roles. Black women make up 5.3% of its overall workforce in the US, black men 4%, Hispanic women 3.7% and Hispanic men 4.6%.
     
    Which means that white men are actually underrepresented while Asians are vastly overrepresented, yet CNN tells an entirely different story.

    This needs to go in the Fake News Compendium, if there is such a thing.

  182. @Anonymous
    Yes, "white guilt" is a misnomer-- if you go to the mid-size municipalities actually run by the whitelib bourgeoisie, e.g. Boulder, Santa Fe, both Portlands, they're quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior. It's just that a key component of this standard is *being seen* as penitential and ostentatiously grieved over the supposedly malevolent workings of White evil spirits.

    The appearance for mutual solidarity is what's important, they don't sincerely buy into this atonement show.

    they’re quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior.

    Oh no they’re not. They’re adamant about white people adhering to that standard.

  183. @BengaliCanadianDude
    Why should he back away from questioning the impossible Holohaux narrative?



    Typical of a Jew to encourage censorship

    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Just ask Mel Gibson.
    , @HammerJack
    There are still some colossal disconnects in the Narrative, though this is probably not the time and place to pursue them. Most of us know what the issues are and where to learn about them.

    What I wonder is: just how many of the fanatics on this topic are essentially false flag operations. They do give that impression sometimes.

    , @Lot
    Newsreel titled “Nazi Murder Mills.” Released 12 days before the German surrender and probably filmed a few days before that.

    https://archive.org/details/1945-04-26_Nazi_Murder_Mills

    1947 newsreel called “Camps of the Dead” using 1945 footage taken by the Army Signal Corps:

    https://stock.periscopefilm.com/77504-concentration-camp-nazi-atrocities-holocaust-documentary-movie-camps-of-the-dead-sound-version/
    , @Jack D
    Maybe in a place like Cambodia or Rwanda you can hack millions of people to death without filling out lots of forms but the Germans were constitutionally incapable of not leaving a copious paper trail typewritten in triplicate. Every person transported to the camps was billed by the Deutsche Reichsbahn at 4 Pfennig per track kilometer - the 3rd class fare (apparently a cattle car counts as 3rd class - Spirit Airlines - take note!). Half fare for children under 10 and children under 4 travel free. Groups of at least 400 persons would be charged 1/2 price with a 200 Reichsmark minimum. And so on - contracts for constructing the crematoria, the invoices for Zyklon B, on and on. There is a mountain of documentary evidence. But there are none so blind as cannot see.
    , @Anonymous

    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.
     
    And yet notable for the absence of documents attesting to key claims. A purported copy of ambiguous minutes of a meeting among low-level officials. Some train passenger manifest numbers. A Red Cross report that doesn't exactly support the official story.

    All this from a country and government that JackD tells us couldn't help but write everything down.
    , @vinteuil

    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.
     
    Heh. Well played. Presumably, not even RKU could disagree with that.
  184. @Jack D
    The Russians are just not as skillful as Americans when it comes to propaganda (at least in English). American propaganda is so slick and well produced that we regard it as the truth whereas in Russian sponsored propaganda it's obvious to all but a few hayseeds that they are spouting propaganda and half-truths. Russians really need to up their game so that it is not so comically obvious when they are lying. "I am genuine American type person by name of Alexander Hamilton. You should be having no doubt about zis. I am plizzed to be selling you Bridge of Brooklyn. You are liking perhaps to buy bridge for excellent price?"

    “The Russians are just not as skillful as Americans when it comes to propaganda (at least in English). ”

    They are certainly getting better, RT is pretty slick.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I think propagandists have a lot easier of a job when the people they are talking about act accordingly. The most effective propaganda is always based in a kernel of irrefutable reality.

    So, for example, if we didn't want Russian propaganda to be getting more effective, maybe the State Department should actually stop trying to aggressively export American political and social norms into cultures where they aren't wanted. The neocons and neolibs have done a lot more to validate what the CCP says about the sinister nature of "democracy promotion" throughout the last 25 years than anything else, TBH.

  185. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    'Parshat bamidbar' prohibits the actual counting of Jews.

    "And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which shall neither be measured nor counted." Something about counting them being a sort of judgement or something. Or counting them as individuals detracts from their unity, which they have as their connection to the Source.

    If you want a count, everyone gives a half shekel and then you count the shekels. I shit you not.

    Or you count noses, fingers, and so on. And you have to have a purpose; even if you count indirectly it's forbidden without a purpose. David counted his people and brought on a plague, etc

    There's no pleasing some people, as Jesus might have said.

    Jeez, I wish people around here would check stuff before spouting off. Parsha B’Midbar (in the desert) says exactly the opposite:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+1%3A1-4%3A20&version=CJB

    The Lord spoke to Moses in the tent of meeting in the Desert of Sinai on the first day of the second month of the second year after the Israelites came out of Egypt. He said: “Take a census of the whole Israelite community by their clans and families, listing every man by name, one by one. …. The total number was 603,550.

    No shekels involved. How hard is it to check nowadays before you repeat something you read on stormfront?

    The quote you give is from Hosea:

    https://biblehub.com/hosea/1-10.htm

    Hosea (as prophets will do) is just prophesying that someday the # of Jewish people will be a very large # – literally “too many to count” – that’s all. He’s not saying that counting is forbidden.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    Ghost is right but he has wrong sidra. Prohibition is found in Ki Tisa (Exodus 30,12-16)
    , @kaganovitch
    Also ,Hosea( it is the traditional haftora to bamidbar hence Ghost's confusion) is interpreted in the Talmud as prohibiting counting (Yoma 22b)
    , @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Not from Stormfront. From a Satmar guy I used to know who managed the Shmira matzah factory in Williamsburg. That stuff goes for like $300/case! Anyway, I did some work for a couple of his summer camps in the Catskills and asked him how many Satmars there are.

    He gave me the stuff about counting Jews. The Lubavichers will tell you the same, I asked one. My family heard this rule, and even some of the nonreligious Jews I know have heard it. It's like burial rules concerning tattoos or if a giraffe is kosher( It is, but no one knows how to slaughter it. So I heard.) Just stuff people talk about.

    Here's a funny comment about the matzah factory:

    http://www.worldtradecopiers.com/matzahreview/reviews/satmar-shmura-hand-matzoh-bakery-williamsburg/

  186. @Steve Sailer
    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    Just ask Mel Gibson.

  187. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    'Parshat bamidbar' prohibits the actual counting of Jews.

    "And the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which shall neither be measured nor counted." Something about counting them being a sort of judgement or something. Or counting them as individuals detracts from their unity, which they have as their connection to the Source.

    If you want a count, everyone gives a half shekel and then you count the shekels. I shit you not.

    Or you count noses, fingers, and so on. And you have to have a purpose; even if you count indirectly it's forbidden without a purpose. David counted his people and brought on a plague, etc

    There's no pleasing some people, as Jesus might have said.

    “That’s just what Jesus said!”

    One of the best movie jokes ever.

  188. @Steve Sailer
    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    There are still some colossal disconnects in the Narrative, though this is probably not the time and place to pursue them. Most of us know what the issues are and where to learn about them.

    What I wonder is: just how many of the fanatics on this topic are essentially false flag operations. They do give that impression sometimes.

  189. @JohnnyWalker123
    Williamson wants to give Blacks $200-500 billion in reparations.

    In comparison, the cost of the Iraq War was about $5 trillion. So reparations would represent only 1/10th the cost of the Iraq War, while inflicting zero casualties or injuries.

    So if pro-peace Williamson had defeated pro-war Bush in 2000, America would be $4.5 trillion richer today. Reparations would be settled. Also, 5,000 troops would be alive (instead of being killed in Iraq) and 1 million more troops would be healthy (instead of being injured in Iraq).

    If you fairly compare them, Williamson likely would've been a vastly better president than Bush.

    Something to think about before you discuss the "crazy" level of the current year.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations. So unlike the Iraq War, I doubt it'll ever happen.

    It's interesting that the media narrative can portray someone like Williamson as insane, while portraying individuals like Bush, Cheney, etc. as "moderate." It shows you how much media bias shapes our perceptions. It also shows you how all this talk of "liberal media" isn't always as true as you might think.

    By the way, 81% of Whites oppose reparations.

    I wonder what the percentage would be if the poll was

    Would you support reparations for blacks for past slavery

    a) if those accepting reparation payments agree to repatriation to Africa
    b) in exchange for repealing all affirmative action and discrimination laws
    c) under some other condition(s)
    e) never

  190. @Steve Sailer
    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    Newsreel titled “Nazi Murder Mills.” Released 12 days before the German surrender and probably filmed a few days before that.

    https://archive.org/details/1945-04-26_Nazi_Murder_Mills

    1947 newsreel called “Camps of the Dead” using 1945 footage taken by the Army Signal Corps:

    https://stock.periscopefilm.com/77504-concentration-camp-nazi-atrocities-holocaust-documentary-movie-camps-of-the-dead-sound-version/

  191. @Steve Sailer
    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    Maybe in a place like Cambodia or Rwanda you can hack millions of people to death without filling out lots of forms but the Germans were constitutionally incapable of not leaving a copious paper trail typewritten in triplicate. Every person transported to the camps was billed by the Deutsche Reichsbahn at 4 Pfennig per track kilometer – the 3rd class fare (apparently a cattle car counts as 3rd class – Spirit Airlines – take note!). Half fare for children under 10 and children under 4 travel free. Groups of at least 400 persons would be charged 1/2 price with a 200 Reichsmark minimum. And so on – contracts for constructing the crematoria, the invoices for Zyklon B, on and on. There is a mountain of documentary evidence. But there are none so blind as cannot see.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I recently read Martin Van Creveld's book, Hitler in Hell. It portrays an entirely lucid Hitler in a Limbo-style hell talking about his life, why he did what he did, and what he thinks of the world today.

    Here is what he has to say about David Irving.


    "But as we made the final preparations for Barbarossa, we were faced with the prospect of raising the total number of Jews under our control to eight and a half to nine million. This time there was no chance to get rid of them all. What on earth should we do with them? Against this background, I came to the conclusion that they would have to be eradicated. Physically, I mean, not in any other sense. The first orders only extended to the men, but very soon women and children were also included. That's the natural process; I saw no other way. Letting them live would only have led to the emergence of a new generation that would have been stronger, more vindictive, and more dangerous than the previous one.

    In 1977, an English amateur historian named David Irving, who until then had been considered by many to be a prodigy of science, presented the idea that I had not been informed of the extermination of the Jews. Allegedly, Himmler carried it out behind my back, and at times, against my express wishes. In support of this, Irving, who had forgotten how good I was at keeping my own opinion and controlling others, cited numerous conversations I had had with different people. For this sacrilege and "Holocaust denial" in general, he was attacked, ostracized and dragged to court by the Grail Keepers of Freedom of Expression. He even had to spend some time in an Austrian prison. As much as I have to commend him for having acted against the anti-German post-war propaganda, I would like to say one thing: all this is utter nonsense."

    , @Johann Ricke

    Maybe in a place like Cambodia or Rwanda you can hack millions of people to death without filling out lots of forms but the Germans were constitutionally incapable of not leaving a copious paper trail typewritten in triplicate.
     
    A big part of it was probably accounting for costs so no one in charge at any point in the process got any ideas about over-billing (in excess) to set himself up in the manner to which he would like to become accustomed.
    , @Anonymous
    I don't question that many Jews and non-Jews were killed at concentration camps. Bit I do question a law that says you can not question the official Holocaust story in any way and that "The truth is no defense". Leuchter proved that no one was cyanide gassed in a certain building-it turned out he was right because the building was a postwar replica-but he was hounded even though they admitted he was technically right because blasphemy.

    But I don't want to discuss the specifics, I am happy to leave the official account alone personally.
    But you can not deny that the issue isn't history. It is blasphemy. You can curse Jesus Christ, or any other deity except Mohammed, but you can not challenge Holocaustianity in any way. Even if Yad Vashem admits many famous holocaust stories are not true, the cattle must not say the exact same thing.
  192. @Lot
    “The Russians are just not as skillful as Americans when it comes to propaganda (at least in English). ”

    They are certainly getting better, RT is pretty slick.

    I think propagandists have a lot easier of a job when the people they are talking about act accordingly. The most effective propaganda is always based in a kernel of irrefutable reality.

    So, for example, if we didn’t want Russian propaganda to be getting more effective, maybe the State Department should actually stop trying to aggressively export American political and social norms into cultures where they aren’t wanted. The neocons and neolibs have done a lot more to validate what the CCP says about the sinister nature of “democracy promotion” throughout the last 25 years than anything else, TBH.

  193. @Jack D
    Jeez, I wish people around here would check stuff before spouting off. Parsha B'Midbar (in the desert) says exactly the opposite:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+1%3A1-4%3A20&version=CJB

    The Lord spoke to Moses in the tent of meeting in the Desert of Sinai on the first day of the second month of the second year after the Israelites came out of Egypt. He said: “Take a census of the whole Israelite community by their clans and families, listing every man by name, one by one. .... The total number was 603,550.

     

    No shekels involved. How hard is it to check nowadays before you repeat something you read on stormfront?

    The quote you give is from Hosea:

    https://biblehub.com/hosea/1-10.htm

    Hosea (as prophets will do) is just prophesying that someday the # of Jewish people will be a very large # - literally "too many to count" - that's all. He's not saying that counting is forbidden.

    Ghost is right but he has wrong sidra. Prohibition is found in Ki Tisa (Exodus 30,12-16)

  194. @Jack D
    Maybe in a place like Cambodia or Rwanda you can hack millions of people to death without filling out lots of forms but the Germans were constitutionally incapable of not leaving a copious paper trail typewritten in triplicate. Every person transported to the camps was billed by the Deutsche Reichsbahn at 4 Pfennig per track kilometer - the 3rd class fare (apparently a cattle car counts as 3rd class - Spirit Airlines - take note!). Half fare for children under 10 and children under 4 travel free. Groups of at least 400 persons would be charged 1/2 price with a 200 Reichsmark minimum. And so on - contracts for constructing the crematoria, the invoices for Zyklon B, on and on. There is a mountain of documentary evidence. But there are none so blind as cannot see.

    I recently read Martin Van Creveld’s book, Hitler in Hell. It portrays an entirely lucid Hitler in a Limbo-style hell talking about his life, why he did what he did, and what he thinks of the world today.

    Here is what he has to say about David Irving.


    “But as we made the final preparations for Barbarossa, we were faced with the prospect of raising the total number of Jews under our control to eight and a half to nine million. This time there was no chance to get rid of them all. What on earth should we do with them? Against this background, I came to the conclusion that they would have to be eradicated. Physically, I mean, not in any other sense. The first orders only extended to the men, but very soon women and children were also included. That’s the natural process; I saw no other way. Letting them live would only have led to the emergence of a new generation that would have been stronger, more vindictive, and more dangerous than the previous one.

    In 1977, an English amateur historian named David Irving, who until then had been considered by many to be a prodigy of science, presented the idea that I had not been informed of the extermination of the Jews. Allegedly, Himmler carried it out behind my back, and at times, against my express wishes. In support of this, Irving, who had forgotten how good I was at keeping my own opinion and controlling others, cited numerous conversations I had had with different people. For this sacrilege and “Holocaust denial” in general, he was attacked, ostracized and dragged to court by the Grail Keepers of Freedom of Expression. He even had to spend some time in an Austrian prison. As much as I have to commend him for having acted against the anti-German post-war propaganda, I would like to say one thing: all this is utter nonsense.”

    • Replies: @kihowi
    I see the holocaust religion is writing its apocrypha.
  195. @Jack D
    Jeez, I wish people around here would check stuff before spouting off. Parsha B'Midbar (in the desert) says exactly the opposite:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+1%3A1-4%3A20&version=CJB

    The Lord spoke to Moses in the tent of meeting in the Desert of Sinai on the first day of the second month of the second year after the Israelites came out of Egypt. He said: “Take a census of the whole Israelite community by their clans and families, listing every man by name, one by one. .... The total number was 603,550.

     

    No shekels involved. How hard is it to check nowadays before you repeat something you read on stormfront?

    The quote you give is from Hosea:

    https://biblehub.com/hosea/1-10.htm

    Hosea (as prophets will do) is just prophesying that someday the # of Jewish people will be a very large # - literally "too many to count" - that's all. He's not saying that counting is forbidden.

    Also ,Hosea( it is the traditional haftora to bamidbar hence Ghost’s confusion) is interpreted in the Talmud as prohibiting counting (Yoma 22b)

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I think we're getting warm because Yoma 22b has the stuff about how it is forbidden to count Jews directly but it's OK to count them INdirectly - e.g. you give everyone a sheep and then you count the # of sheep so then you are not counting Jews anymore, you're counting sheep and it's OK. This is why Jews make great tax lawyers - we've been looking for loopholes for 2,000 years.
  196. @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Yes, but a brilliant Nazi.

    We’ve employed way worse for far less value.

    • Replies: @Ghost of Bull Moose
    Talk about hidden figures!
  197. @Jack D
    Jeez, I wish people around here would check stuff before spouting off. Parsha B'Midbar (in the desert) says exactly the opposite:

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Numbers+1%3A1-4%3A20&version=CJB

    The Lord spoke to Moses in the tent of meeting in the Desert of Sinai on the first day of the second month of the second year after the Israelites came out of Egypt. He said: “Take a census of the whole Israelite community by their clans and families, listing every man by name, one by one. .... The total number was 603,550.

     

    No shekels involved. How hard is it to check nowadays before you repeat something you read on stormfront?

    The quote you give is from Hosea:

    https://biblehub.com/hosea/1-10.htm

    Hosea (as prophets will do) is just prophesying that someday the # of Jewish people will be a very large # - literally "too many to count" - that's all. He's not saying that counting is forbidden.

    Not from Stormfront. From a Satmar guy I used to know who managed the Shmira matzah factory in Williamsburg. That stuff goes for like $300/case! Anyway, I did some work for a couple of his summer camps in the Catskills and asked him how many Satmars there are.

    He gave me the stuff about counting Jews. The Lubavichers will tell you the same, I asked one. My family heard this rule, and even some of the nonreligious Jews I know have heard it. It’s like burial rules concerning tattoos or if a giraffe is kosher( It is, but no one knows how to slaughter it. So I heard.) Just stuff people talk about.

    Here’s a funny comment about the matzah factory:

    http://www.worldtradecopiers.com/matzahreview/reviews/satmar-shmura-hand-matzoh-bakery-williamsburg/

  198. @nebulafox
    We've employed way worse for far less value.

    Talk about hidden figures!

  199. Oh, you bet. If the American taxpayer had an inkling that his money went to pay for Mobutu’s Concorde trips to Paris to shop for his twin mistresses… but we’ve poured billions of dollars arming diagnosable psychotics and incompetents for little appreciable payoff. We still do.

    Isn’t that worse than importing somebody who mostly just wanted to be left alone to his rockets and was unlucky enough to get stuck with a nasty regime? These people are acting like we imported Franz Walter Stahlecker or something.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Stahlecker was replaced by Jost after he was killed by Soviet partisans. After the war Jost was released after 6 years. By the mid to late '50s all of the Einsatzgruppen leaders who were not executed were granted clemency and released due to Cold War exigencies or insanity or something. I have no real explanation for how or why men who were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people were just let go.

    The problem with von Braun is twofold:

    #1 - he didn't build rockets to go to the moon for Hitler, as much as he might have allegedly liked to - he built rockets to hit civilian zones in London and he damn well knew that's where they were aimed.

    #2 - The V-2 is perhaps the only weapons system in history where more people died building it than it killed. The conditions in Mittelbau-Dora , where the V-2 was built, were the usual appalling concentration camp conditions (at least 20,000 died there).

    https://miro.medium.com/max/1350/1*3irFZed_xgE2-PUxX8EJdQ.jpeg

    von Braun had to be aware of who it was who was digging the tunnels and building his rockets. He visited Mittelbau many times and they were all around him. Even if von Braun's organization was designing carnival rides and not Vengeance Weapons, having your workforce consist of starving slave laborers would make you a war criminal.
  200. @nebulafox
    I recently read Martin Van Creveld's book, Hitler in Hell. It portrays an entirely lucid Hitler in a Limbo-style hell talking about his life, why he did what he did, and what he thinks of the world today.

    Here is what he has to say about David Irving.


    "But as we made the final preparations for Barbarossa, we were faced with the prospect of raising the total number of Jews under our control to eight and a half to nine million. This time there was no chance to get rid of them all. What on earth should we do with them? Against this background, I came to the conclusion that they would have to be eradicated. Physically, I mean, not in any other sense. The first orders only extended to the men, but very soon women and children were also included. That's the natural process; I saw no other way. Letting them live would only have led to the emergence of a new generation that would have been stronger, more vindictive, and more dangerous than the previous one.

    In 1977, an English amateur historian named David Irving, who until then had been considered by many to be a prodigy of science, presented the idea that I had not been informed of the extermination of the Jews. Allegedly, Himmler carried it out behind my back, and at times, against my express wishes. In support of this, Irving, who had forgotten how good I was at keeping my own opinion and controlling others, cited numerous conversations I had had with different people. For this sacrilege and "Holocaust denial" in general, he was attacked, ostracized and dragged to court by the Grail Keepers of Freedom of Expression. He even had to spend some time in an Austrian prison. As much as I have to commend him for having acted against the anti-German post-war propaganda, I would like to say one thing: all this is utter nonsense."

    I see the holocaust religion is writing its apocrypha.

  201. @Altai

    Williamson was born in Houston, Texas, in 1952.[10][11][12] She is the youngest of three children of Samuel "Sam" Williamson, an immigration lawyer,[12][13] and Sophie Ann (Kaplan), a homemaker.[14][15] Her family is Jewish, and she was raised in Conservative Judaism.[13][16] Her father's original surname was Vishnevetsky.[17] After graduating from Houston's Bellaire High School, Williamson spent two years studying theater and philosophy at Pomona College in Claremont, California.[14]
     
    How do you get Williamson from Vishnevetsky?

    I don’t know the transformation, but this information explains a lot about her.

  202. @kaganovitch
    Also ,Hosea( it is the traditional haftora to bamidbar hence Ghost's confusion) is interpreted in the Talmud as prohibiting counting (Yoma 22b)

    I think we’re getting warm because Yoma 22b has the stuff about how it is forbidden to count Jews directly but it’s OK to count them INdirectly – e.g. you give everyone a sheep and then you count the # of sheep so then you are not counting Jews anymore, you’re counting sheep and it’s OK. This is why Jews make great tax lawyers – we’ve been looking for loopholes for 2,000 years.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    I'm fascinated by ancient censuses, like the several mentioned in the Bible.

    Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations? I could well imagine that this knowledge might have been lost due to Dark Age scribes not wanting to recopy a bunch of incomprehensible ancient Bill James-like stuff, the way somebody erased and wrote over a page of Archimedes quasi-calculus about 1000 years ago.

    , @kaganovitch
    While I agree that we make good tax lawyers, this specific loophole is more or less explicit in Exodus 30.
  203. @Jack D
    I think we're getting warm because Yoma 22b has the stuff about how it is forbidden to count Jews directly but it's OK to count them INdirectly - e.g. you give everyone a sheep and then you count the # of sheep so then you are not counting Jews anymore, you're counting sheep and it's OK. This is why Jews make great tax lawyers - we've been looking for loopholes for 2,000 years.

    I’m fascinated by ancient censuses, like the several mentioned in the Bible.

    Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations? I could well imagine that this knowledge might have been lost due to Dark Age scribes not wanting to recopy a bunch of incomprehensible ancient Bill James-like stuff, the way somebody erased and wrote over a page of Archimedes quasi-calculus about 1000 years ago.

    • Replies: @Kaganovitch
    Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations?

    There are some midrashic traditions that could be read as proto- correlations, but they post date the actual census by many centuries so who knows.
    , @Lot
    “Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations?”

    I don’t think so. Statistics were a really late development given how easy and useful they are. Some of the really basic concepts didn’t come until Gauss and Laplace in the early 1800s. And even then, the immediate practical application was to mechanistic random events like dice games and tidal and astronomical data. Applying them to social sciences and biology was later still.

    Perhaps if more of the top mathematicians had large data sets written out before them this would have come earlier.

    The first writers to have data tables about human activity that I remember are Smith, Ricardo, and Hume.
    , @Lot
    “I’m fascinated by ancient censuses”

    Here’s a breezy article from the 1920s describing the various ancient Roman censuses in Italy.

    http://homepages.uc.edu/~martinj/Latin/Roman_Population/Frank%20-%20Roman%20Census%20Statistics.pdf
  204. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Just walking around my suburban neighborhood, let alone the inner city, I see lots of work that could be done and will never be done by robots - weeding the parks and filling in potholes and cleaning up graffiti and so on. If you are going to pay able bodied people anyway, I can think of lots of things that they could do that would be useful instead of having them sit on their ass and play video games. Tutor kids in the inner city. Read to old people. Anything.

    Maybe there are some people whose productivity in the private sector is only $11/hr but the government has decided that everyone should have a minimum income of $15/hr ($600/wk). Fine, have the private sector employer pay the guy $11 hr and the government will pay the other $4 - it's still cheaper than paying the same guy $600/hr to sit on his ass. Robots aren't free either - the only reason they are competitive is because the government is setting the minimum wage above the productivity of certain people.

    Economic productivity sets what businesses could pay, but not what they have to pay. For instance, there was a time when over the road truckload truck drivers made more than many helicopte pilot jobs. That was in the post-Vietnam late 70s when trucking was mostly ICC regulated. Getting started in trucking was tough but drivers made really good money, the Teamsters were doing well. Learning to fly helos as a civilian was prohibitively expensive (still is) but the Army let a very substantial number of helo pilots go after Vietnam.

    When under Reagan trucking was deregulated and companies interpreted PATCO as a license to bust unions, many new trucking jobs were created but at much lower pay rates, and except for drivers at the few LTL companies that survived, or specialized jobs like heavy hauling, trucker pay imploded. And the Vietnam glut of helo pilots evaporated as many gave up on flying, became fixed wing pilots and got airline jobs, or went to work in expanding offshore oil or life-flight EMS operations.

    A minimum wage raises pay of SOME workers as businesses decide they have to have some workers and will pay what’s necessary, but also dries up some marginal jobs. Capital is diverted from crummy job creation and goes to better job creation. If companies have to pay $15/hour, some McDonald’s franchises may close, but this will reduce the value of the land on which they sit, and make manufacturing investment more palatable. Singapore, for example, made some low value added manufacturing unprofitable and consequently improved the overall economy as capital went to better jobs.

    Also, a high minimum wage when enforced makes hiring some marginal workers, such as not very bright non Engish speaking Mesoamericans, uneconomic and they go home.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Huge numbers of unemployed helicopter pilots after 1972.
  205. @Steve Sailer
    I'm fascinated by ancient censuses, like the several mentioned in the Bible.

    Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations? I could well imagine that this knowledge might have been lost due to Dark Age scribes not wanting to recopy a bunch of incomprehensible ancient Bill James-like stuff, the way somebody erased and wrote over a page of Archimedes quasi-calculus about 1000 years ago.

    Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations?

    There are some midrashic traditions that could be read as proto- correlations, but they post date the actual census by many centuries so who knows.

  206. @Jack D
    Maybe in a place like Cambodia or Rwanda you can hack millions of people to death without filling out lots of forms but the Germans were constitutionally incapable of not leaving a copious paper trail typewritten in triplicate. Every person transported to the camps was billed by the Deutsche Reichsbahn at 4 Pfennig per track kilometer - the 3rd class fare (apparently a cattle car counts as 3rd class - Spirit Airlines - take note!). Half fare for children under 10 and children under 4 travel free. Groups of at least 400 persons would be charged 1/2 price with a 200 Reichsmark minimum. And so on - contracts for constructing the crematoria, the invoices for Zyklon B, on and on. There is a mountain of documentary evidence. But there are none so blind as cannot see.

    Maybe in a place like Cambodia or Rwanda you can hack millions of people to death without filling out lots of forms but the Germans were constitutionally incapable of not leaving a copious paper trail typewritten in triplicate.

    A big part of it was probably accounting for costs so no one in charge at any point in the process got any ideas about over-billing (in excess) to set himself up in the manner to which he would like to become accustomed.

  207. @nebulafox
    Oh, you bet. If the American taxpayer had an inkling that his money went to pay for Mobutu's Concorde trips to Paris to shop for his twin mistresses... but we've poured billions of dollars arming diagnosable psychotics and incompetents for little appreciable payoff. We still do.

    Isn't that worse than importing somebody who mostly just wanted to be left alone to his rockets and was unlucky enough to get stuck with a nasty regime? These people are acting like we imported Franz Walter Stahlecker or something.

    Stahlecker was replaced by Jost after he was killed by Soviet partisans. After the war Jost was released after 6 years. By the mid to late ’50s all of the Einsatzgruppen leaders who were not executed were granted clemency and released due to Cold War exigencies or insanity or something. I have no real explanation for how or why men who were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people were just let go.

    The problem with von Braun is twofold:

    #1 – he didn’t build rockets to go to the moon for Hitler, as much as he might have allegedly liked to – he built rockets to hit civilian zones in London and he damn well knew that’s where they were aimed.

    #2 – The V-2 is perhaps the only weapons system in history where more people died building it than it killed. The conditions in Mittelbau-Dora , where the V-2 was built, were the usual appalling concentration camp conditions (at least 20,000 died there).

    von Braun had to be aware of who it was who was digging the tunnels and building his rockets. He visited Mittelbau many times and they were all around him. Even if von Braun’s organization was designing carnival rides and not Vengeance Weapons, having your workforce consist of starving slave laborers would make you a war criminal.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    > I have no real explanation for how or why men who were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people were just let go.

    Because the world is a cold, unforgiving place, and much as people like to wax lyrically about their values and morality, few actually mean it. Most people, let alone governments, don't even like sparing the effort of inconvenience unless they feel they have to. Let alone pain.

    It's as much of a farce as the daily social banalities people insist on following. Suppose you wish to commit suicide: all of a sudden, people who would have laughed at you or ignored you are your best friend, pleading with you not to do it. They don't actually *care* about you, though: they are reacting because they were socially programmed to freak out about death in the concrete flesh. They'll go back to forgetting you as soon as you aren't a threat to their peace of mind.

    People who instinctively try to manipulate you into accepting moral tenets that they themselves never follow generally aren't to be trusted.

    >#1 – he didn’t build rockets to go to the moon for Hitler, as much as he might have allegedly liked to – he built rockets to hit civilian zones in London and he damn well knew that’s where they were aimed.

    We're not British. But even if we were, as long as he's willing to work for us now, why care? It wasn't like Nazi Germany was coming back, and we had a new opponent. Like scurrying rats, people love to cuddle up to the new big boys on the block. Why would former Nazis be any different? The overwhelming majority of people on this planet have a simple desire: keep their heads down, stay out of trouble, and make the best they can out of whatever petty lot they've got.

    >#2 – The V-2 is perhaps the only weapons system in history where more people died building it than it killed. The conditions in Mittelbau-Dora , where the V-2 was built, were the usual appalling concentration camp conditions (at least 20,000 died there). von Braun had to be aware of who it was who was digging the tunnels and building his rockets.

    What would you have had him do about it? File a complaint for better working conditions to Heinrich Himmler or Albert Speer? Considering the amount of dubious people the US has worked with, it seems hypocritical to make a stink about this one in particular. One who, unlike other investments, actually served us well.

    "Never again" is a farce. Human atrocities will happen. Rather than beating our chests about and try to alter a past that can't be changed, it seems like it'd be a better investment of our time to figure out how to practically minimize that in the modern day. But that'd take actual effort and money: and not the sort of thing that'd win you press blurbs. So it won't happen.

  208. Anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Henry's Cat
    The Yad Vashem website says:

    Yad Vashem, together with its partners, has collected and recorded the names and biographical details of millions of victims of systematic anti-Jewish persecution during the Holocaust (Shoah) period. 4.8 of the 6 million Jews murdered by the Nazis and their accomplices are commemorated here.
     
    Shouldn't you check these things first?

    Yad Vashem “commemorates 4.5 million.” How did they arrive at 6 million?

  209. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Maybe in a place like Cambodia or Rwanda you can hack millions of people to death without filling out lots of forms but the Germans were constitutionally incapable of not leaving a copious paper trail typewritten in triplicate. Every person transported to the camps was billed by the Deutsche Reichsbahn at 4 Pfennig per track kilometer - the 3rd class fare (apparently a cattle car counts as 3rd class - Spirit Airlines - take note!). Half fare for children under 10 and children under 4 travel free. Groups of at least 400 persons would be charged 1/2 price with a 200 Reichsmark minimum. And so on - contracts for constructing the crematoria, the invoices for Zyklon B, on and on. There is a mountain of documentary evidence. But there are none so blind as cannot see.

    I don’t question that many Jews and non-Jews were killed at concentration camps. Bit I do question a law that says you can not question the official Holocaust story in any way and that “The truth is no defense”. Leuchter proved that no one was cyanide gassed in a certain building-it turned out he was right because the building was a postwar replica-but he was hounded even though they admitted he was technically right because blasphemy.

    But I don’t want to discuss the specifics, I am happy to leave the official account alone personally.
    But you can not deny that the issue isn’t history. It is blasphemy. You can curse Jesus Christ, or any other deity except Mohammed, but you can not challenge Holocaustianity in any way. Even if Yad Vashem admits many famous holocaust stories are not true, the cattle must not say the exact same thing.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    But you can not deny that the issue isn’t history.
     
    What does this sentence mean?
  210. @Jack D
    I think we're getting warm because Yoma 22b has the stuff about how it is forbidden to count Jews directly but it's OK to count them INdirectly - e.g. you give everyone a sheep and then you count the # of sheep so then you are not counting Jews anymore, you're counting sheep and it's OK. This is why Jews make great tax lawyers - we've been looking for loopholes for 2,000 years.

    While I agree that we make good tax lawyers, this specific loophole is more or less explicit in Exodus 30.

  211. The screaming starting at 15:45 made it worth it for me. She definitely earned her keep and made them white folk feel good about themselves.

  212. @Jack D
    Stahlecker was replaced by Jost after he was killed by Soviet partisans. After the war Jost was released after 6 years. By the mid to late '50s all of the Einsatzgruppen leaders who were not executed were granted clemency and released due to Cold War exigencies or insanity or something. I have no real explanation for how or why men who were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people were just let go.

    The problem with von Braun is twofold:

    #1 - he didn't build rockets to go to the moon for Hitler, as much as he might have allegedly liked to - he built rockets to hit civilian zones in London and he damn well knew that's where they were aimed.

    #2 - The V-2 is perhaps the only weapons system in history where more people died building it than it killed. The conditions in Mittelbau-Dora , where the V-2 was built, were the usual appalling concentration camp conditions (at least 20,000 died there).

    https://miro.medium.com/max/1350/1*3irFZed_xgE2-PUxX8EJdQ.jpeg

    von Braun had to be aware of who it was who was digging the tunnels and building his rockets. He visited Mittelbau many times and they were all around him. Even if von Braun's organization was designing carnival rides and not Vengeance Weapons, having your workforce consist of starving slave laborers would make you a war criminal.

    > I have no real explanation for how or why men who were responsible for the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people were just let go.

    Because the world is a cold, unforgiving place, and much as people like to wax lyrically about their values and morality, few actually mean it. Most people, let alone governments, don’t even like sparing the effort of inconvenience unless they feel they have to. Let alone pain.

    It’s as much of a farce as the daily social banalities people insist on following. Suppose you wish to commit suicide: all of a sudden, people who would have laughed at you or ignored you are your best friend, pleading with you not to do it. They don’t actually *care* about you, though: they are reacting because they were socially programmed to freak out about death in the concrete flesh. They’ll go back to forgetting you as soon as you aren’t a threat to their peace of mind.

    People who instinctively try to manipulate you into accepting moral tenets that they themselves never follow generally aren’t to be trusted.

    >#1 – he didn’t build rockets to go to the moon for Hitler, as much as he might have allegedly liked to – he built rockets to hit civilian zones in London and he damn well knew that’s where they were aimed.

    We’re not British. But even if we were, as long as he’s willing to work for us now, why care? It wasn’t like Nazi Germany was coming back, and we had a new opponent. Like scurrying rats, people love to cuddle up to the new big boys on the block. Why would former Nazis be any different? The overwhelming majority of people on this planet have a simple desire: keep their heads down, stay out of trouble, and make the best they can out of whatever petty lot they’ve got.

    >#2 – The V-2 is perhaps the only weapons system in history where more people died building it than it killed. The conditions in Mittelbau-Dora , where the V-2 was built, were the usual appalling concentration camp conditions (at least 20,000 died there). von Braun had to be aware of who it was who was digging the tunnels and building his rockets.

    What would you have had him do about it? File a complaint for better working conditions to Heinrich Himmler or Albert Speer? Considering the amount of dubious people the US has worked with, it seems hypocritical to make a stink about this one in particular. One who, unlike other investments, actually served us well.

    “Never again” is a farce. Human atrocities will happen. Rather than beating our chests about and try to alter a past that can’t be changed, it seems like it’d be a better investment of our time to figure out how to practically minimize that in the modern day. But that’d take actual effort and money: and not the sort of thing that’d win you press blurbs. So it won’t happen.

    • Agree: Diversity is Great!
  213. Anonymous[786] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    Economic productivity sets what businesses could pay, but not what they have to pay. For instance, there was a time when over the road truckload truck drivers made more than many helicopte pilot jobs. That was in the post-Vietnam late 70s when trucking was mostly ICC regulated. Getting started in trucking was tough but drivers made really good money, the Teamsters were doing well. Learning to fly helos as a civilian was prohibitively expensive (still is) but the Army let a very substantial number of helo pilots go after Vietnam.

    When under Reagan trucking was deregulated and companies interpreted PATCO as a license to bust unions, many new trucking jobs were created but at much lower pay rates, and except for drivers at the few LTL companies that survived, or specialized jobs like heavy hauling, trucker pay imploded. And the Vietnam glut of helo pilots evaporated as many gave up on flying, became fixed wing pilots and got airline jobs, or went to work in expanding offshore oil or life-flight EMS operations.

    A minimum wage raises pay of SOME workers as businesses decide they have to have some workers and will pay what's necessary, but also dries up some marginal jobs. Capital is diverted from crummy job creation and goes to better job creation. If companies have to pay $15/hour, some McDonald's franchises may close, but this will reduce the value of the land on which they sit, and make manufacturing investment more palatable. Singapore, for example, made some low value added manufacturing unprofitable and consequently improved the overall economy as capital went to better jobs.

    Also, a high minimum wage when enforced makes hiring some marginal workers, such as not very bright non Engish speaking Mesoamericans, uneconomic and they go home.

    Huge numbers of unemployed helicopter pilots after 1972.

  214. Lot says:
    @Steve Sailer
    I'm fascinated by ancient censuses, like the several mentioned in the Bible.

    Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations? I could well imagine that this knowledge might have been lost due to Dark Age scribes not wanting to recopy a bunch of incomprehensible ancient Bill James-like stuff, the way somebody erased and wrote over a page of Archimedes quasi-calculus about 1000 years ago.

    “Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations?”

    I don’t think so. Statistics were a really late development given how easy and useful they are. Some of the really basic concepts didn’t come until Gauss and Laplace in the early 1800s. And even then, the immediate practical application was to mechanistic random events like dice games and tidal and astronomical data. Applying them to social sciences and biology was later still.

    Perhaps if more of the top mathematicians had large data sets written out before them this would have come earlier.

    The first writers to have data tables about human activity that I remember are Smith, Ricardo, and Hume.

  215. @Steve Sailer
    I'm fascinated by ancient censuses, like the several mentioned in the Bible.

    Did any ancient nerd ever get interested in stuff like correlations? I could well imagine that this knowledge might have been lost due to Dark Age scribes not wanting to recopy a bunch of incomprehensible ancient Bill James-like stuff, the way somebody erased and wrote over a page of Archimedes quasi-calculus about 1000 years ago.

    “I’m fascinated by ancient censuses”

    Here’s a breezy article from the 1920s describing the various ancient Roman censuses in Italy.

    http://homepages.uc.edu/~martinj/Latin/Roman_Population/Frank%20-%20Roman%20Census%20Statistics.pdf

  216. Anonymous[786] • Disclaimer says:
    @Rosie

    However, giving a guaranteed income to young people is doubly destructive. For one thing, it saps people of initiative and turns everyone into trust fund babies who tend to waste their lives in non-productive (and often self-destructive) pursuits.
     
    Keep shaking your fist if you like, but UBI is only a matter of time. Automation is going to put too many people out of work.

    You will need price controls, especially for businesses in poor communities, otherwise shopkeepers will hike their prices and people receiving UBI will be as poor as they were before.

  217. Anonymous[786] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Aren't you the guy who told us that Obama would refuse to leave office at the end of his term? I think that your crystal ball may need some polishing before I am willing to make book on it. It's not over until the fat lady (Stacey Abrams?) sings. Right now there is a sort of race to the bottom among the 417 people vying for the Democrat nomination as to who can promise the most gibmedats to Democrat Party constituent groups but that's very different from passing a bill in both houses of Congress and having it signed by the President.

    Right, candidates always say crazy things when contending for nomination. Party activists aren’t the same as voters.

    I recall Trump saying a lot of wild things during the Republican primaries – that he was going to cut immigration, pull out of foreign wars, repatriate jobs, etc. Fringe, crazy stuff.

  218. Anonymous[376] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    And yet notable for the absence of documents attesting to key claims. A purported copy of ambiguous minutes of a meeting among low-level officials. Some train passenger manifest numbers. A Red Cross report that doesn’t exactly support the official story.

    All this from a country and government that JackD tells us couldn’t help but write everything down.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The holocaust was in three parts: the shootings on the eastern front, the deaths from illness and neglect in the concentration camps, and the gassings in the death camps.

    There's lots of evidence for the first two. The problem is the gassings. The Nazis were very secretive about what was going on in the death camps, because killing civilians outside of a warzone in this manner was against the laws of war. Their intention was for these people to just disappear without trace.
  219. Anonymous[786] • Disclaimer says:

    What did Arthur Rudolph do that Werner von Braun didn’t?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Rudolph was more directly involved with using forced labor to build and move around the rockets. As Operations Director, he had more contact with the prisoners. von Braun, as Mr. Big, was able to keep his hands clean. After the war, Hoess, the commandant of Auschwitz, also claimed, probably truthfully, that he never killed or even beat any prisoner with his own hands. Unfortunately (for him) Hoess didn't know any rocket secrets so they hung him anyway.

    von Braun also had the good luck to die in '77, before there was renewed attention to the Holocaust. Had he lived longer, there would have come a time when more questions were raised about him. Rudolph was expelled in '82.

  220. Anonymous[786] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous

    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.
     
    And yet notable for the absence of documents attesting to key claims. A purported copy of ambiguous minutes of a meeting among low-level officials. Some train passenger manifest numbers. A Red Cross report that doesn't exactly support the official story.

    All this from a country and government that JackD tells us couldn't help but write everything down.

    The holocaust was in three parts: the shootings on the eastern front, the deaths from illness and neglect in the concentration camps, and the gassings in the death camps.

    There’s lots of evidence for the first two. The problem is the gassings. The Nazis were very secretive about what was going on in the death camps, because killing civilians outside of a warzone in this manner was against the laws of war. Their intention was for these people to just disappear without trace.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    There’s lots of evidence for the first two.
     
    I don't believe anyone disputes those occurrences. What number of deaths does the evidence show the Einsatzgruppen having caused?

    The problem is the gassings. The Nazis were very secretive about what was going on in the death camps,
     
    What is the evidence of Germany having acted in secrecy? Did she not keep train manifests of passenger numbers? If I recall correctly, JackD said above that the Germans wrote everything down.

    because killing civilians outside of a warzone in this manner was against the laws of war. Their intention was for these people to just disappear without trace.
     
    If these were the laws of war, why didn't they have a similar deterrent effect on the British and Americans, who brazenly murdered civilians on a mass scale in Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?
  221. @Anonymous
    Yes, "white guilt" is a misnomer-- if you go to the mid-size municipalities actually run by the whitelib bourgeoisie, e.g. Boulder, Santa Fe, both Portlands, they're quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior. It's just that a key component of this standard is *being seen* as penitential and ostentatiously grieved over the supposedly malevolent workings of White evil spirits.

    The appearance for mutual solidarity is what's important, they don't sincerely buy into this atonement show.

    Yes, “white guilt” is a misnomer– if you go to the mid-size municipalities actually run by the whitelib bourgeoisie, e.g. Boulder, Santa Fe, both Portlands, they’re quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior. It’s just that a key component of this standard is *being seen* as penitential and ostentatiously grieved over the supposedly malevolent workings of White evil spirits.

    Wealthy white liberals want to stay safe and wealthy. Pretending to be Woke is a small price to pay to ensure that you keep your wealth and your privilege and your nice safe white neighbourhoods.

  222. @Steve Sailer
    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    The Holocaust is likely the most exhaustively documented event in history.

    Heh. Well played. Presumably, not even RKU could disagree with that.

  223. @Anonymous
    Yes, "white guilt" is a misnomer-- if you go to the mid-size municipalities actually run by the whitelib bourgeoisie, e.g. Boulder, Santa Fe, both Portlands, they're quite self-righteous about everyone adhering to an ultra-white standard of behavior. It's just that a key component of this standard is *being seen* as penitential and ostentatiously grieved over the supposedly malevolent workings of White evil spirits.

    The appearance for mutual solidarity is what's important, they don't sincerely buy into this atonement show.

    That was good.

  224. @ben tillman
    Right. You didn't have to be totally nuts to believe those things. You had to be totally ignorant. And the job of the experts is to keep you ignorant.

    Meanwhile, in this corner of the Internet, you could find the true experts who knew ahead of time that the three items you listed were utter falsehoods.

    You didn’t have to be totally nuts to believe those things. You had to be totally ignorant.

    So I guess you already believed, twenty years ago, that Muslims in general & Arabs in particular were hopeless stinkers, totally incapable of self-government.

    Congratulations on your perspicacity.

  225. Anonymous[114] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    The holocaust was in three parts: the shootings on the eastern front, the deaths from illness and neglect in the concentration camps, and the gassings in the death camps.

    There's lots of evidence for the first two. The problem is the gassings. The Nazis were very secretive about what was going on in the death camps, because killing civilians outside of a warzone in this manner was against the laws of war. Their intention was for these people to just disappear without trace.

    There’s lots of evidence for the first two.

    I don’t believe anyone disputes those occurrences. What number of deaths does the evidence show the Einsatzgruppen having caused?

    The problem is the gassings. The Nazis were very secretive about what was going on in the death camps,

    What is the evidence of Germany having acted in secrecy? Did she not keep train manifests of passenger numbers? If I recall correctly, JackD said above that the Germans wrote everything down.

    because killing civilians outside of a warzone in this manner was against the laws of war. Their intention was for these people to just disappear without trace.

    If these were the laws of war, why didn’t they have a similar deterrent effect on the British and Americans, who brazenly murdered civilians on a mass scale in Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?

  226. @Anonymous
    What did Arthur Rudolph do that Werner von Braun didn't?

    Rudolph was more directly involved with using forced labor to build and move around the rockets. As Operations Director, he had more contact with the prisoners. von Braun, as Mr. Big, was able to keep his hands clean. After the war, Hoess, the commandant of Auschwitz, also claimed, probably truthfully, that he never killed or even beat any prisoner with his own hands. Unfortunately (for him) Hoess didn’t know any rocket secrets so they hung him anyway.

    von Braun also had the good luck to die in ’77, before there was renewed attention to the Holocaust. Had he lived longer, there would have come a time when more questions were raised about him. Rudolph was expelled in ’82.

    • Replies: @Anonymous

    von Braun also had the good luck to die in ’77, before there was renewed attention to the Holocaust.
     
    Why was there renewed attention after 1977 to The Holocaust?
  227. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I don't question that many Jews and non-Jews were killed at concentration camps. Bit I do question a law that says you can not question the official Holocaust story in any way and that "The truth is no defense". Leuchter proved that no one was cyanide gassed in a certain building-it turned out he was right because the building was a postwar replica-but he was hounded even though they admitted he was technically right because blasphemy.

    But I don't want to discuss the specifics, I am happy to leave the official account alone personally.
    But you can not deny that the issue isn't history. It is blasphemy. You can curse Jesus Christ, or any other deity except Mohammed, but you can not challenge Holocaustianity in any way. Even if Yad Vashem admits many famous holocaust stories are not true, the cattle must not say the exact same thing.

    But you can not deny that the issue isn’t history.

    What does this sentence mean?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    I believe it's something like:

    "The issue in question, and to which I object, is not a matter of what did or did not, in fact, historically occur ("history"); i.e., the issue is not the true history of the matter.

    Rather, the issue in question, and to which I object, is this idea that it is forbidden to discuss, debate, and question that history, whether correctly, intelligently, and civilly, or even incorrectly, foolishly, and boorishly. That it is so forbidden invokes the spirit of a kind of Inquisition against free thought and speech, akin to old laws against blasphemy. This kind of despotic, effectively religious zealotry, is rightly no longer tolerated regarding almost any topic save the Holocaust [sic]."

    He is objecting to the draconian laws, in places like Germany and Austria, prohibiting even the most reasonable, measured questioning of the details of the Holocaust [sic]. Such laws have no place in a free society. They are of a kind with laws against disparaging the monarch of blaspheming – hence his analogy.

    One should be as free to claim, rightly or wrongly, that the Holocaust [sic] never occurred, or occurred in some ways differently than is conventionally understood, as one is free to proclaim that the Egyptian pyramids were built by extraterrestrial aliens, of that Any Schumer is funny. Crazy? Maybe. But illegal? Why?!

    (I may be entirely wrong! I am only trying to help clarify something I think I understood but which another may have not!)
  228. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    Rudolph was more directly involved with using forced labor to build and move around the rockets. As Operations Director, he had more contact with the prisoners. von Braun, as Mr. Big, was able to keep his hands clean. After the war, Hoess, the commandant of Auschwitz, also claimed, probably truthfully, that he never killed or even beat any prisoner with his own hands. Unfortunately (for him) Hoess didn't know any rocket secrets so they hung him anyway.

    von Braun also had the good luck to die in '77, before there was renewed attention to the Holocaust. Had he lived longer, there would have come a time when more questions were raised about him. Rudolph was expelled in '82.

    von Braun also had the good luck to die in ’77, before there was renewed attention to the Holocaust.

    Why was there renewed attention after 1977 to The Holocaust?

  229. @Anonymous

    But you can not deny that the issue isn’t history.
     
    What does this sentence mean?

    I believe it’s something like:

    “The issue in question, and to which I object, is not a matter of what did or did not, in fact, historically occur (“history”); i.e., the issue is not the true history of the matter.

    Rather, the issue in question, and to which I object, is this idea that it is forbidden to discuss, debate, and question that history, whether correctly, intelligently, and civilly, or even incorrectly, foolishly, and boorishly. That it is so forbidden invokes the spirit of a kind of Inquisition against free thought and speech, akin to old laws against blasphemy. This kind of despotic, effectively religious zealotry, is rightly no longer tolerated regarding almost any topic save the Holocaust [sic].”

    He is objecting to the draconian laws, in places like Germany and Austria, prohibiting even the most reasonable, measured questioning of the details of the Holocaust [sic]. Such laws have no place in a free society. They are of a kind with laws against disparaging the monarch of blaspheming – hence his analogy.

    One should be as free to claim, rightly or wrongly, that the Holocaust [sic] never occurred, or occurred in some ways differently than is conventionally understood, as one is free to proclaim that the Egyptian pyramids were built by extraterrestrial aliens, of that Any Schumer is funny. Crazy? Maybe. But illegal? Why?!

    (I may be entirely wrong! I am only trying to help clarify something I think I understood but which another may have not!)

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Thank you
  230. Anonymous[230] • Disclaimer says:
    @Autochthon
    I believe it's something like:

    "The issue in question, and to which I object, is not a matter of what did or did not, in fact, historically occur ("history"); i.e., the issue is not the true history of the matter.

    Rather, the issue in question, and to which I object, is this idea that it is forbidden to discuss, debate, and question that history, whether correctly, intelligently, and civilly, or even incorrectly, foolishly, and boorishly. That it is so forbidden invokes the spirit of a kind of Inquisition against free thought and speech, akin to old laws against blasphemy. This kind of despotic, effectively religious zealotry, is rightly no longer tolerated regarding almost any topic save the Holocaust [sic]."

    He is objecting to the draconian laws, in places like Germany and Austria, prohibiting even the most reasonable, measured questioning of the details of the Holocaust [sic]. Such laws have no place in a free society. They are of a kind with laws against disparaging the monarch of blaspheming – hence his analogy.

    One should be as free to claim, rightly or wrongly, that the Holocaust [sic] never occurred, or occurred in some ways differently than is conventionally understood, as one is free to proclaim that the Egyptian pyramids were built by extraterrestrial aliens, of that Any Schumer is funny. Crazy? Maybe. But illegal? Why?!

    (I may be entirely wrong! I am only trying to help clarify something I think I understood but which another may have not!)

    Thank you

  231. @Alden
    They all are insanely anti White. It’s not just jews either. Every White college employee from the presidents of the top 10 to the TAs and part timers all insanely anti White. Nancy Pelosi with a White husband 5 children and many White grandchildren is insanely anti White.

    Maybe they are ((cryptos))!!! There are a lot of ((cryptos)) masquerading as pure Euros.

  232. @Jack D
    The Nazis had the same problem and they found the solution long ago. No I don't mean THAT solution. One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not. HOWEVER (and this shows the brilliance of German logic, which even the Nazis could not suppress) you didn't have to do this if your first name was already Israel or Sara.

    Now some folks around here try to do the same with ((parentheses)) but I think that the Nazis had the better solution in this case. There is really very little new in anti-Semitic technology - the kvetching (if I may be so bold) about the Jews in 2019 is no different than that of 1939 or 1899.

    Good Lord, I just remembered I know Jews named Williams. There was a Jew named Williams who was a sheriff in Oklahoma. I knew his son. They came from Morocco.

  233. Anonymous[388] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D
    The Nazis had the same problem and they found the solution long ago. No I don't mean THAT solution. One of the Nuremberg Laws was that every male Jew had to have the middle name Israel added to his name and every female Jew was required to take the middle name Sara, so there could be no doubt whether the Hans Miller you were dealing with was Jewish or not. HOWEVER (and this shows the brilliance of German logic, which even the Nazis could not suppress) you didn't have to do this if your first name was already Israel or Sara.

    Now some folks around here try to do the same with ((parentheses)) but I think that the Nazis had the better solution in this case. There is really very little new in anti-Semitic technology - the kvetching (if I may be so bold) about the Jews in 2019 is no different than that of 1939 or 1899.

    Now some folks around here try to do the same with ((parentheses))

    And some folks do it with kippas, mezuzahs, teflin, and circumcision.

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