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From the New York Times news section:

Overdose Deaths Continue Rising, With Fentanyl and Meth Key Culprits

New data shows a surge in overdose deaths involving fentanyl and methamphetamine. Overall, the nation saw a 15 percent increase in deaths from overdoses in 2021.

By Noah Weiland and Margot Sanger-Katz
May 11, 2022

WASHINGTON — After a catastrophic increase in 2020, deaths from drug overdoses rose again to record-breaking levels in 2021, nearing 108,000, the result of an ever-worsening fentanyl crisis, according to preliminary new data published on Wednesday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

The increase of nearly 15 percent followed a much steeper rise of almost 30 percent in 2020, an unrelenting crisis that has consumed federal and state drug policy officials. Since the 1970s, the number of drug overdose deaths has increased every year except 2018.

A growing share of deaths continue to come from overdoses involving fentanyl, a class of potent synthetic opioids that are often mixed with other drugs, and methamphetamine, a synthetic stimulant. State health officials battling an influx of both drugs said many of the deaths appeared to be the result of combining the two.

Drug overdoses, which long ago surged above the country’s peak deaths from AIDS, car crashes and guns, killed about a quarter as many Americans last year as Covid-19.

Deaths involving synthetic opioids — largely fentanyl — rose to 71,000 from 58,000, while those associated with stimulants like methamphetamine, which has grown cheaper and more lethal in recent years, increased to 33,000 from 25,000. Because fentanyl is a white powder, it can be easily combined with other drugs, including opioids like heroin, and stimulants like meth and cocaine, and can be stamped into counterfeit pills for anti-anxiety drugs like Xanax. Such mixtures can prove lethal if drug users are unaware they are taking fentanyl or are unsure of the dose.

Wasn’t there a famous death in Minneapolis on May 25, 2020 that could have been used as the perfect illustration of the dangers of taking any recreational drug, such as meth, in an era when drug dealers so often mix in fentanyl, either intentionally to boost the pleasure from the drug or just due to using the same Magic Bullet blender for mixing both?

How many lives would have been saved over the last two years if the press had trumpeted the fact that George Floyd had both meth and fentanyl in his system when he died, and Mr. Floyd’s death should come as a warning to us all to stay away from all illegal drugs in the Age of Fentanyl?

But, instead, suggesting that drugs contributed to Floyd’s death was a Conspiracy Theory and Disinformation.

 
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  1. No one is overdosing. Derek Chauvin is being let out at night by eugenicist Nazis for his kneeling tour.

  2. epebble says:

    How many lives would have been saved over the last two years if the press had trumpeted the fact that George Floyd had both meth and fentanyl in his system when he died, and Mr. Floyd’s death should come as a warning to us all to stay away from all illegal drugs in the Age of Fentanyl?

    Sadly, zero, zilch, nada.

    The fact that Fentanyl kills and any and all drug may be laced with Fentanyl is pretty common knowledge. Trumpeting the said info is akin to warning jaywalking across a busy highway may render someone into roadkill.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  3. It’s amazing to me that someone would put shit into their body with ZERO info about the content of the substance.

    WTF man…

    • Replies: @Charlesz Martel
  4. Mike Tre says:

    “Wasn’t there a famous death in Minneapolis on May 25, 2020 ”

    “How many lives would have been saved over the last two years if the press had trumpeted the fact that George Floyd had both meth and fentanyl in his system when he died, ”

    Or if Floyd’s death was referred to as, you know, a suicide. Which it was.

  5. Interesting.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  6. @AnotherDad

    No one is overdosing. Derek Chauvin is being let out at night by eugenicist Nazis for his kneeling tour.

    #FACTS

    But seriously–I presume the TPTB are terrified of unrestricted speech because normies might start to see the patterns, all pointing to the unifying theme of the ethnic cleansing of whites, no? I hope their fears are justified, and I hope realized.

    • Agree: Richard B
  7. Symptoms of fentanyl overdose include difficulty breathing, claustrophobia, anxiety and heart attack. Although the heart attack was likely due to the combination of fentanyl and meth. Floyd announced he could not breath before entering the police car and insisted on leaving the car because of intense claustrophobia and anxiety. Floyd refusing to stay in the police car is what lead to the officers holding Floyd to the ground.

    Floyd’s muscle spasms and bizarre dancing like movements in the convenience store could also have been symptoms of fentanyl overdose.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @JimB
  8. J.Ross says:

    I’m pretty sure the medical reasoning used to brazenly lie about the cause of death was a non-medical jury trick, a great stepping away from the data and the corpse, a layman’s essentialism that, even if the meth (and the years of addiction) made the cardiac arrest fatal, surely the original thing that ticked off Floyd’s ticker was the arrest. This seems logical to a layman and might even be true. Medically it’s incoherent. Floyd had so much junk in his blood that he could reasonably be expected to have the same reaction to anything else, or indeed to nothing. In other words, in order to reach the conclusion they jumped to, the medical experts surrendered their expertise. They should be offered an injection with an adjusted comparable overdose (that is, both because of Floyd’s size and years of consistent drug use, much less), with the promise that they will not be arrested and will certainly not be knelt upon. They will of course refuse, because that dose would be fatal, without any scary policemen.

    ————
    Amazingly good thread. 2016 energy returning. Anon decides to put together a good series of research links on the manufactured famine and, among numerous good finds, discovers that the government database tracking major fires has not been updated in over two years.
    https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/377186336
    Did you know that the leader of Somalia is an American who spent his professional life at various levels of government, and who once in power switched Somali food imports to depend on post-Maidan Ukraine, which before the klankening sent almost no grain to Somalia, with the result that now Somalia is screwed?

  9. J.Ross says:
    @clifford brown

    Yes. In the video, the first time he announces difficulty breathing, he is sitting behind the wheel of his own vehicle behind a closed door and no policeman is touching him.

  10. Sacklers
    +Greedy doctors
    + Apathetic ruling class
    + Open borders (Mexican heroin)
    + Chinese fetanyl

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  11. Chebyshev says:

    Does fentanyl mainly claim the lives of lowlifes like Floyd? Or does it also kill normal people who didn’t know it was in their marijuana?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
  12. Slightly OT:

    The New York Times has an opinion piece today on “How the Tobacco Industry Hooked Black Smokers on Menthols”. The article manages to work in a mention of a police chokehold and the phrase “plaintive cry of “I can’t breathe,”” into the article.

    It is as if the writer actually wanted to write about fetanyl-laced cigarettes, but chose instead, at the last minute, to write about menthols being pushed by evil whitey.

    Industry efforts to cultivate influencers in the Black community extended to local media dependent on advertising revenue, organizations seeking tobacco industry funding and politicians reliant on campaign contributions. Menthol’s web expanded from the 1960s through the 1990s — even as Black communities suffered and rallied in opposition.

    The F.D.A. sought to move against menthols twice since then, facing opposition from the industry as well as the influencers they financed. In recent years, those influencers have trafficked in fears that banning menthol cigarettes will produce bootleg menthol products, ramped-up police surveillance and more tragic episodes like that of Eric Garner, who was strangled in a police chokehold while being arrested for selling loose cigarettes on a street on Staten Island.

    The truth is that menthol cigarettes and the death of Mr. Garner are linked by his plaintive cry of “I can’t breathe,” part of a long history of systemic targeting of Black people.

    • Replies: @Hodag
    , @SaneClownPosse
  13. But aren’t they all goyim?

    Not news. Move along.

  14. Batman says:

    Lol remember when they let a random MMA fan on the street testify about medical causation at Chauvin’s trial?

  15. Yeah, well, I know you know the answer, Steve. The narrative was blacks being wronged. It’s not like they could easily find another martyr for their cause, who wasn’t high on Fentanyl. You know they’d tried. That street corner in Minneapolis in May of ’20 was neither the time nor the place to start some off-the-script drug problem narrative.

    OK, here’s my real beef with the guy. He must be a Wall Street Journal reader or acolyte, as he does that same ass-backward thing they do, “… rose to 71,000 from 58,000.”, twice! “… rose from 58,000 to 71,000” is how you write this. #Asinine!

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
  16. ic1000 says:

    > The increase of nearly 15 percent followed a much steeper rise of almost 30 percent in 2020, an unrelenting crisis that has consumed federal and state drug policy officials.

    Yes, NYT reporters, this unrelenting crisis has unleashed immeasurable suffering on federal and state drug policy officials. Biden Administration federal officials, that is.

    Also, reporters. They are the actual heroic victims here. Right, NYT reporters?

    • Agree: kaganovitch
  17. Rob says:

    I wonder if drugs would be so adulterated if they were legal? My guess is they’d be much cleaner. Xanax and Adderall are controlled substances but pretty safe. Somewhat humorously, methamphetamine is available by prescription, Desoxyn. I don’t think I’ve ever heard of anyone ODing on it, but I’ve never known anyone prescribed it. Come to think of it, alcohol is legal, and I have not heard of any manufacturer adding fentanyl to it.

    None of that is to say that legalizing drugs would make them safer. Users are used to getting them illegally. Plus, the government would tax them heavily, so there’d be an incentive to get them illegally. Not to mention, they’d still be illegal for teens and most college-age people, so there’d be a big market who couldn’t get drugs legally.

    Be interesting to know how much marijuana has a bit of fentanyl in it. People who use other drugs frequently also use marijuana, but there are a ton of potheads who don’t use other illegal drugs. I wonder if marijuana is cleaner in states with medical/legal weed.

    There’s a lateral flow assay, like a home pregnancy test, for fentanyl. Maybe they need wider distribution. Suboxone prescriptions should be easier to get.

    In the eighties, mainstream conservatives wanted the government to stop people from using. I think we a harsher, colder country now. A ton of people just want users to hurry up and die.

    The Stacklers should be publicly executed, pour encourager les autres, Seriously, has any other family done as much harm to America?

    The media won’t do much reporting on fentanyl, because it could lead to racism against Chinese and Mexicans. Plus, a nearly 20% increase in OD deaths anagrams to build the wall.

    It used to be pretty difficult for anyone except high school kids to start using drugs, but buying online with cryptocurrencies means the barrier to entry is low for anyone with a cell phone or computer access. You don’t have to go to a sleazy bar or strip club looking like an easy mark or an undercover cop. Just buy some bitcoin, install the Tor browser, and wait a week for delivery.

    • Agree: J.Ross, ic1000
  18. Roger says: • Website

    Okay, people are dying of meth, fentanyl, aids, menthol cigarettes, covid-19 (if they have multiple comorbidities like obesity and diabetes), and resisting arrest. It is almost as if some evil genius has figured out how to eliminate the worst behaving people.

    • Replies: @Alan Mercer
    , @Mike Tre
  19. SafeNow says:

    Part of the problem has been that so many media and non-media people pronounce the last syllable incorrectly. FEN-tin-awl is what they say. Rhymes with alcohol. Thus, the connotation is that, It’s just spiked-up alcohol, man. I can’t prove it, but I think the situation would be different if it were called FEN-tin-ConcentratedRatPoison.

  20. Muggles says:

    Unfortunately, there is a culling the herd going on.

    Eventually, the most vulnerable will be dead or saved by intervention. Many of the latter will succumb anyway eventually.

    I wonder how closely the deaths are correlated to IQ?

    Of course having a border as porous as our southern one now doesn’t help.

    Now if Nancy Pelosi’s grandkids start dying from this then maybe…

  21. This isn’t a problem because the communists imagine it’s all poor, rural whites dying, and they love that. Sure, it might take a few others with it, but they love the White Death. They don’t even hide it. In fact, they love taunting rural whites about it, ie Bette Midler

    They used to say liberals think conservatives are evil, but conservatives just think liberals are wrong.

    Well, this no longer applies, if it ever did. These people would be wrong if they were trying to accomplish good. But they are not. They are pure evil.

    • Agree: Pop Warner
    • Replies: @Pixo
    , @Mark G.
  22. Pixo says:

    Am I supposed to care?

    What percentage of OD deaths are people who are in the bottom 20% for most or all of these traits: IQ, productivity, physical heath and attractiveness, conscientious, law-abidingness?

    There are so many dysgenic trends in America right now. Fentanyl is a rare eugenic one.

    And this culling is going to have to happen at some point in history. I am sure when alcoholism genes largely got weeded out of the French gene pool, it wasn’t pretty. But they got it over with and now have a very low rate of alcoholism and innocent people killed by drunk driving.

    The idea our increasingly diverse government can indefinitely keep amphetamines and opiates from those who want them is unfounded.

    Some wisdom from America’s greatest judge, Oliver W Holmes:

    We have seen more than once that the public welfare may call upon the best citizens for their lives. It would be strange if it could not call upon those who already sap the strength of the State for these lesser sacrifices, often not felt to be such by those concerned, in order to prevent our being swamped with incompetence. It is better for all the world if, instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. The principle that sustains compulsory vaccination is broad enough to cover cutting the Fallopian tubes. Jacobson v. Massachusetts, 197 U. S. 11. Three generations of imbeciles are enough.

    • Replies: @Alden
  23. @Rob

    The S(t)acklers should be publicly executed, pour encourager les autres, Seriously, has any other family done as much harm to America?

    Sounds like a plan. You have all these politicians talking about being tough on crime, but none of them talked about using the RICO laws against the Sacklers so they couldn’t even hire an attorney.

    It is all very well for the Sacklers to say that they are now giving billions of dollars for drug addiction programs, but there is not much evidence that drug addiction programs do any good, and they certainly don’t resurrect the dead.

    They can give up billions of dollars, but no Sackler will go cold or hungry, or have to sleep on a lumpy 2-inch plastic mattress with the light on all night.

    Time to put the correction back in corrections.

  24. Spud Boy says:

    I struggle to find sympathy for anyone who would purchase drugs of unknown provenance on the street.

    If you have kids, they need to learn early and often to never take anything given to them by a friend or acquaintance.

  25. Hodag says:
    @PiltdownMan

    The first cigarette I ever smoked was a menthol cigarette given away at the 1983 Western Open. They got pretty college girls to walk around with trays to give away smokes.

    Other than the crowd there for Calvin Peete (a gem of man with a large gallery, but lacked the distance to score at Butler) the other 95% were white.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
  26. OT

    Tweet from Matt Yglesias in which he makes of the ACLU for insisting that an abortion ban would disproportionately hurt the LGBTQ community. He correctly points out that heterosexuals would be in need of these services proportionately more than the LGBTQ. And since Twitter is the home of the insane, he gets push back on his innocuous observation.

    • Replies: @Curle
    , @Alden
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Elli
  27. Curle says:
    @ScarletNumber

    Silly, only LGBTQ and other minorities can experience fear (copyright).

  28. Alden says:
    @ScarletNumber

    The recently failed bill in the Senate making abortion permissible by federal law changed the words women to persons. I’m enjoying the carryings on by the liberals. Apparently the M-F trannies are having a fit because all of a sudden a women’s issue is a women’s, not all insane person’s issue.

  29. Pixo says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    “ it’s all poor, rural whites dying”

    Far from just them. Prince was a rich urban black for example. And in the same town was St. George Floyd.

    To the extent it is poor rural whites, it’s primarily junkies who impose awful burdens on their families, holding back their advancement and corrupting their young.

    Sure, there are plenty of sad cases that fall outside of this rule. The promising young HS football player who gets hooked after an injury and ODs in his 20s during a relapse where he lost his tolerance faster than expected. I think this was the story told in a NYT feature a couple years ago.

    Here’s a more typical story the NYT doesn’t tell. A junkie steals and mooches off his parents until they kick him out, then he steals from his grandmother. The parents drain their savings sending him to rehab. He gets his younger cousin into drugs. He causes extreme stress and anxiety in the whole family. He shoplifts from stores and hits on teenage girls. He sucks up so many family resources that his law abiding brother has to delay marriage and children.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Thanks: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @Paul Rise
    , @Joseph Doaks
  30. Mr. Anon says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    He must be a Wall Street Journal reader or acolyte, as he does that same ass-backward thing they do, “… rose to 71,000 from 58,000.”, twice! “… rose from 58,000 to 71,000” is how you write this. #Asinine!

    I noticed that too. It’s a confusing locution. I guess the Times now emphasizes wokeness over good writing.

  31. lastdance says:

    The role of the New York Times is to keep the “intelligentsia” dumb and tell them how to think. All important subjects are drenched in propaganda that is highly schizophrenic. And it’s doing a hell of a job of keeping all the useful idiots thinking, that they understand the world.

  32. Hhsiii says:
    @Hodag

    My dad was the only white guy I knew who smoked menthols. He went to RJ Reynolds High School in Winston Salem.

    • LOL: Charon
  33. @ScarletNumber

    They copied plagiarized that list from pro-life literature. Which has the stronger point.

    • Replies: @Alden
  34. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    So anti abortion is pro blacks Hispanics and other minorities. That means pro abortion is pro White. Just what Whites need. More black and Hispanic criminal classes entitled to affirmative action and endless government benefits.

    Do you how much medi-caid pays the hospital for all the Hispanic and black babies born of welfare moms? \$1,000 to \$1,300 for a normal birth and 24 hours in the hospital after the birth.

    Know how much hospitals charge White women with insurance for a normal birth and 24 hour stay? \$15,000 to \$18,000.

    Now class let’s figure out why Mrs and baby White pay \$15,000 to \$18,000 while Ms and baby black don’t pay a penny. Or how can hospitals afford to keep obstetrics open when more and more births are medi-caid.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  35. Voltarde says:

    Stupid public policy decisions (open borders in the U.S., non-enforcement of drug trafficking laws, “harm reduction” programs that encourage drug use, etc.) are more significant problems than inadequate lessons from the George Floyd saga.

    Yes, the media/NGO campaign that followed the death of George Floyd did create a major international news story. But it’s doubtful that the story had much resonance in, say, the province of Canada with the absolute worst record of drug overdose deaths, British Columbia.

    In BC the drug overdose rate has skyrocketed as a result of the pursuit by the “public health” bureaucracy of their media/NGO-promoted “harm reduction” strategy. Rather than admit their failure, they want even more of the same policies.

    B.C. illicit drug deaths reach an ‘unprecedented and terrifying rate’: chief coroner
    https://bc.ctvnews.ca/9-400-deaths-in-6-years-b-c-marks-solemn-anniversary-of-opioid-crisis-1.5862168

    “… A group called Moms Stop the Harm is urging the public to demand an action plan and scaled up safe supply options, … Also marking the anniversary is the Drug User Liberation Front, which announced it was giving out 17 grams of free heroin, cocaine and methamphetamine to members of drug user groups across B.C.

    … The province’s chief coroner’s recommendations include the expansion of safer supply programs and the decriminalization of illicit drugs for personal use. “Since 2016, the rate of death caused by the toxic drug supply has more than doubled, and in the northern part of our province, the rate has more than tripled,” she said. …”

    Sure, we need to use more gasoline to put out that raging forest fire!

    Ironically, there is a huge ethnic Chinese community in British Columbia. Too bad the BC provincial government doesn’t want to learn from Singapore’s success.

    Singapore is winning the war on drugs. Here’s how.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/singapore-is-winning-the-war-on-drugs-heres-how/2018/03/11/b8c25278-22e9-11e8-946c-9420060cb7bd_story.html

    The media/NGO/bureaucracy complex are outraged by Singapore’s success. They’d rather see massive rates of drug overdose deaths than hang drug traffickers.

    Singapore Resumes Hangings for Drug Offenses, Provoking Outrage, Rare Public Protest
    https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/news/singapore-resumes-hangings-for-drug-offenses-provoking-outrage-rare-public-protest

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  36. Travis says:

    How many lives would have been saved if we never imposed lockdowns across the United States. Shuttering schools, churches and all social outlets resulted in a significant increase in deaths of despair across America, with drugs deaths soaring and increased social unrest resulting in higher rates of crime and homicides. Sadly we will face the consequences of the lockdowns for years, as we are seeing the effects today which are higher inflation, food shortages and escalating crime and civil unrest. The lockdowns created the the dry kindle for the thousands of protests and resulting riots. The only social outlets available to young Americans in 2020 was attending protests. The Lockdowns will go down in history as one of the biggest blunders in American history, creating social unrest and putting millions of Americans out-of-work and bankrupting thousands of small businesses across the nation. Many families will never recover form the destructive lockdowns imposed on Americans.

  37. @Rob

    The problem is the Sacklers were a Godsend for too many people. “Evil doctors hooked my kid on drugs for profit!” is better than “He lost 3 grandparents to alcoholism, shouldn’t be surprised he got addicted to the thing that killed him”.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Franz
  38. …and an innocent White man locked up in hellish prison,with monsters surrounding him,for life.

    • Replies: @Joseph Doaks
  39. Mark G. says:
    @Ghost of Bull Moose

    This isn’t a problem because the communists imagine it’s all poor, rural whites dying, and they love that.

    The Wikipedia article on the nineties crack epidemic lists 25 feature films related to that epidemic. It’s unlikely we will see a bunch of films where Chinese fentanyl manufacturers and Mexican drug dealers are portrayed as villains and poor rural whites are portrayed sympathetically.

    As someone who lives around working-class whites and has seen the devastation up close, I think the underlying problem is that many of these working-class whites have lost a sense of purpose in life and have turned to drugs and alcohol as a substitute. Traditionally, the life of this group focused on working a job and raising children. The loss of factory jobs starting in the seventies made this life unavailable to many. For example, my brother-in-law lost his auto manufacturing job in Anderson, Indiana in the early eighties. He was never able to find another good paying job. He couldn’t financially support my sister and their child, turned to drugs and alcohol, and their marriage fell apart. The only good paying jobs in recent years are government jobs. However, due to affirmative action, it has become increasingly difficult for whites to get these jobs.

    Beside the loss of male breadwinner jobs, the welfare system also encourages family breakup. Middle class women are not tempted by welfare but for poorer women going on welfare can be an attractive alternative to marrying a male with little in the way of job prospects. If you are a male working a job, you often feel like a sucker because you are paying taxes to support women on welfare you aren’t married to. That just gives men another incentive not to slave away at a job.

  40. JimB says:
    @clifford brown

    Symptoms of fentanyl overdose include difficulty breathing, claustrophobia, anxiety and heart attack

    It’s an excellent lethal injection drug for capital punishment.

  41. @AnotherDad

    ‘No one is overdosing. Derek Chauvin is being let out at night by eugenicist Nazis for his kneeling tour.’

    The difficulty is that it’s the white deaths that are skyrocketing.

  42. I’m old enough to remember the last time we went through this; there was a lot of arm-waving about drug overdoses in the early seventies.

    So how did the rates back then compare to our 108,000?

    According to Wikipedia/ no year got much over seven thousand.

    It all leads one to suspect it’s not how many are dying, but who is dying. If it’s rural white gentiles…

    Or maybe the deaths are mostly among that huge population of vagrants we’ve acquired. If Bob dies in his parents’ house, it’s noticed. If he wandered off and joined the vagrant hordes five years ago, maybe it’s kinda just the anticipated conclusion.

  43. @Mark G.

    ‘…If you are a male working a job, you often feel like a sucker because you are paying taxes to support women on welfare you aren’t married to…’

    Not to mention child support. Divorce has become pretty usual, and the state loves to dun wages for child support.

    When I had my moving business, naturally I had a lot of casual and temporary hires — who necessarily weren’t people who were exactly rolling in dough. One of the reasons I finally stopped reporting wages at all is that the state got the bright idea that I should report all new hires in case they owed child support. So some guy’s picking up maybe \$200 a week from me for twenty hours at \$10 an hour — and I’m supposed to withhold child support?

    Oh, that’s really going to help him get on his feet. I mean, sure, if I owed it, and I’m clearing sixty thousand a year, I should pay, but those guys…

    No, there’s a problem — but the solution isn’t dunning them.

    • Thanks: Charon
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  44. Its important that we all believe that fentanyl Floyd was murdered by a White cop. I don’t know why its important.

  45. Wokechoke says:

    Fentanyl or Heroin is the lowest form of Love. Johnny Rotten pointed this out. It’s used by relatively intelligent people who know they are not really appreciated or cherished.

    I was surprised a dumb narcissistic black with overinflated self esteem would want to take it.

    • Replies: @Kylie
    , @Henry Bowman
  46. anonymous[289] • Disclaimer says:

    Do the fentanyl and meth deaths lower costs of incarceration and improve social security solvency?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  47. @JohnnyWalker123

    “the rate at which youths aged seven to 17 were arrested for violent crime nearly tripled between 1960 and 1975…the average juvenile was almost three times as likely to be arrested for (and presumably to commit) a violent crime in 1975 as he was in 1960”

    Daniel Amneus said that there is an approximately 15-year gap between a rise in bastardy, or fatherlessness in general, and a rise in crime.

    What does the 1965-80 trend look like, or the 1970-85 or 1975-90 ones?

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  48. @Alden

    That means pro abortion is pro White.

    Yeah, right.

    US % white, 1970: 87.7
    US % white, 2020: 61.1

    Canada, where abortion was illegal until 1989 but has been unregulated and free-of-charge ever since, has a similar trajectory, behind us but moving faster.

    Do you how much medi-caid pays the hospital for all the Hispanic and black babies born of welfare moms?

    A hell of a lot more than it did in 1960, when abortion was illegal and despised everywhere. Gee, thanks, prochoicers!

  49. But, instead, suggesting that drugs contributed to Floyd’s death was a Conspiracy Theory and Disinformation.

    As opposed to what drugs contributed to in Bill Cosby’s case. Cosby is out, serving one-seventh the sentence Derek Chauvin was given for doing his job imperfectly.

    That’s quite a change from when David Duke got one-seventh the sentence his gubernatorial opponent Edwin Edwards did.

    BTW, Duke has spent quite a bit of time after his release in both Russia and Ukraine. Whose side is he taking? Or is he an ideal candidate to lead peace negotiations?

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
  50. @Joe Stalin

    Don’t know about the missile thing but I’d take Lizzie over Joe.

  51. It’s time for the “harm reduction”, “medically-assisted treatment (MAT)” and “anti-shaming” people to step up and tell us how their ten years of predominance in the management of drug addicts and their addictions are working out.

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  52. @Voltarde

    Singapore Resumes Hangings for Drug Offenses

    • Agree: Corn
  53. Kylie says:
    @Wokechoke

    “Fentanyl or Heroin is the lowest form of Love. Johnny Rotten pointed this out. It’s used by relatively intelligent people who know they are not really appreciated or cherished.”

    Lol! How many heroin/Fentanyl users have you known?

  54. By the way, as Joseph Heller would say: Something happened ….

    • Replies: @Coemgen
  55. J.Ross says:

    OT — Right now SaturnCube is going all Sabra-Shatila on cryptocurrency. If this is to enable a buy like last year, then buying the dip is a mitzvah. If this is to enable the creation of a poisoned, “official,” government-controlled crypto-currency, which by the way will just happen to track all your purchases and will sport all the dumb avoidable weaknesses of fiat,* then any crypto other than the “official” shlemazelcoin is effectively just assassinated like the Tsar’s family. The action is so obvious that the SaturnCube twitter account insisted that they’re not doing anything (and are in fact in the process of getting their lives together).

    *Yes it absolutely will. Fiat isn’t so bad. Fiat, like limited non-Marxist socialism, would pretty much work without issues in some Scandinavian hamlet. The dumb avoidable problems of fiat are each 100% exactly what some government thought it wanted at one time, like, say, having an infinite supply of them.

  56. Gordo says:

    Who do you think *owns* the press? Hello.

  57. duncsbaby says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    BTW, Duke has spent quite a bit of time after his release in both Russia and Ukraine. Whose side is he taking?

    The side of the Nazis?

  58. George says:

    “dangers of taking any recreational drug”. Recreational drug use is a college kid sort of thing. I think non prescription meth and opioid abuse is something else. Adderall is an amphetamine, but apparently it’s widespread use is not termed recreational.

  59. Altai says:

    Well it happens mostly to very poor people, particularly poor black people. And people don’t care about things that happen to them until it can be made about them.

    Generally things that happen to poor people aren’t that interesting middle class and up people.

    See a pretty dramatic thing, mass almost immediately fatal drug overdoses, happening pretty regularly in black ghettos from crack laced with fentanyl.

    https://www.dea.gov/press-releases/2022/04/06/dea-warns-increase-mass-overdose-events-involving-deadly-fentanyl

    https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220406-us-warns-of-mass-overdoses-from-fentanyl-spiked-drugs

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2022/04/12/fentanyl-overdose-deaths-dc/

    But the DC event, which killed 10, didn’t get much press, the one which impacted well-off LA comedians (Even ones who are C list at most in celebrity terms) did get a lot of traction.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-09-05/three-dead-of-overdose-early-saturday-morning

    Though having said that, I’d forgotten both Prince and Tom Petty died from fentanyl overdoses.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/musics-fentanyl-crisis-inside-the-drug-that-killed-prince-and-tom-petty-666019/

  60. George says:
    @Mark G.

    You might find think interesting.

    RELIGION
    Orthodox Christian churches are drawing in far-right American converts

    When Sarah Riccardi-Swartz moved from New York City to a small Appalachian town in West Virginia in the fall of 2017, she was searching for an answer to a puzzling question. Why had a group of conservative American Christians converted to Russian Orthodoxy?

    https://www.npr.org/2022/05/10/1096741988/orthodox-christian-churches-are-drawing-in-far-right-american-converts

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  61. @Wokechoke

    dumb narcissistic black with overinflated self esteem

    Just say black.

    • LOL: Charon
  62. Wasn’t there a famous death in Minneapolis on May 25, 2020 that could have been used as the perfect illustration of the dangers of taking any recreational drug….

    Did the cameras miss the part where Officer Chauvin shoved those drugs down Mr. Floyd’s throat or shotgunned them into his lungs?

  63. Alden says:
    @Pixo

    3 generations of criminal imbeciles are enough.

  64. Alden says:
    @Redneck farmer

    Susceptibility to addiction, like everything else is hereditary.

  65. Dumbo says:

    How many lives would have been saved over the last two years if the press had trumpeted the fact that George Floyd had both meth and fentanyl in his system when he died,

    I doubt it would have made any difference.

  66. Franz says:
    @Redneck farmer

    “He lost 3 grandparents to alcoholism, shouldn’t be surprised he got addicted to the thing that killed him”.

    Very true. A local sheriff told my wife, who works at a pharmacy, that the number of suicides among pain patients is way, way up, but don’t expect to hear it from any responsible source. Meaning anybody that can be de-licensed.

    Alcohol deaths we accept as part of the world. But the two decades after prohibition was repealed were the roughest on the medical business. Most people obeyed the law, and could not have learned how to control it while they were dry. Hospital wards were full of “morbid alcoholics.”

    Narcotics are good for pain, and fine when people have access to and self-medicate as needed. But in 1914 the USA passed the Harrison Act making it all illegal. Too bad since it worked fine for winning the west. Americans are the last people who believe the cover story about the Opium Wars.

  67. J.Ross says:
    @George

    I saw that, it’s the equivalent of a recently arrived Russian freaking out that some people in a nearby Jewish community are Zionists, and pseudo-academically implying they’re Mossad: hysterical nonsense tolerated because of Qui.

  68. Coemgen says:
    @Coemgen

    Meathead’s original tweet hasn’t been deleted:

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  69. @Colin Wright

    I knew a guy who was renting a cabin from a friend of mine who was off the books completely for this reason. He only worked for cash and only paid cash for anything.

    I support people who get out of the system of servitude we have now, as much as I can (not just for this particular situation). We still have our so-civil conservatives who say we “need to play by the rules”. Screw that! How long are you going to play by the rules, until the rules are about who’s going to be pushed dead into the ditch first?

    Get out of the system as much as you can. Support others who do so.

    • Agree: Seneca44, Adam Smith
    • Replies: @Escher
    , @Colin Wright
  70. Paul Rise says:
    @Pixo

    Isn’t it crazy that the deaths of Prince and Tom Petty did not heighten awareness of the risk of these drugs?

    You almost have to believe that there is some well funded interest group out there that now suppresses news like this to protect profit margins or something.

    A friend who is close to the world of entertainment claims that there are a handful of other tragic celebrity deaths caused by these drugs but covered up by local jurisdictions and publicists, etc.

  71. Curious. Could the fentanyl push be another angle of the depopulation/eugenics program being used as part of The Great Reset?

    It sure seems to be targeting the “useless feeders” if you will.

    Drug prohibition sure helps the program. After all, if you could buy all the uppers and downers you wanted in highly controlled dosages, OD’s would probably disappear…can’t have that, of course

  72. Thoughts says:

    I know a family with absolutely Loser Children

    The Democrat parents talk like all of the above iSteve commentators…

    “Cull the weak!”

    was their battle cry during a dinner I was subjected to

    and the entire time I kept thinking ‘Are they not aware that THEY are the bottom?’

    So….

    What’s your definition of bottom? Because I’ll tell ya…Bottom is very Subjective…You and your kids just may be the ‘bottom’ in someone else’s eyes…

    Besides, working class people doing rough jobs, getting injured and then getting hooked on a poison that they were told was safe….That ain’t Playin Fair

    Furthermore, some may say the Covid vaccine followed the same Playbook as Oxycontin…and it seems a lot of smart folks injected that into their blood stream

  73. @Reg Cæsar

    You know very well, Reg, that this correlation has nothing to do with any causation.

    I am pro-life myself, but I have to agree with those who say that abortion has been good in keeping the number of black thugs and deadbeats from being even higher.

    Alden is absolutely right. The proportion of White people has gone down because of White demographic collapse*, the Welfare State’s incentive for the irresponsible (read, a big share of black people), and massive immigration of people from all over the world. Alden noted the middle factor with assistance from the latter.

    When we didn’t have insurance, we got a \$1,300 bill for a visit to the ER one time, for 1/2 hour behind the counter. After I’d paid about \$250, the next time the billing guy called, I told him “hey, that should be good enough. I can’t be paying for the 5 illegal aliens that were in there with us that afternoon.” Oh, he seemed all offended, but that was it “That’s all you’re getting. See ya’!”** (I paid the Doc his \$300 in full.)

    .

    * The writer Lionel Shriver has a sad but honest article on this from ’05, which Peak Stupidity discussed here. What’s not mentioned in her article, because she hangs out with more upper class women, is that the Welfare State has discouraged middle class White people from having more children because they are fairly responsible and see that they don’t have so much money left for it, as they pay for the raising of the kids of the irresponsible. (Some call this “taxes”.)

    ** Sometimes nothing but dashes on your credit rating is a real cool hand.

    • Agree: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Alden
  74. @Coemgen

    Hey, Meathead was on The Rockford Files in 1975! He played a detestable character in it too. He’s good at being detestable.

    • Replies: @Curle
  75. @JohnnyWalker123

    “+ Apathetic ruling class”

    I think the apathy is worse in the citizenry. Americans seem to believe that unless the problem affects them personally, it’s someone else’s problem. And they seem to believe that their elected representatives, who most of them didn’t vote for (if they voted at all), will take care of the problem because that’s their job, isn’t it?

    If this was the attitude in 1776 we’d still be singing “God Save the Queen.”

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @martin_2
  76. Fentanyl is enormously powerful. A therapeutic dosage is measured in micrograms; the tiniest error by an addict can lead to overdose.

    Persecuting strung out drug consumers is pointless cruelty. The trade in illicit drugs would end overnight if there was a body empowered to serve justice the corrupt police, judges, and politicians who aggressively maintain it for their own purposes, from social control to personal profit.

  77. Anon[490] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.

    The white working class has always been addicted. It’s been alcoholic for centuries. It survived because it bred more offspring than it managed to kill via addiction.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
  78. @Pixo

    “Here’s a more typical story the NYT doesn’t tell. A junkie steals and mooches off his parents until they kick him out, then he steals from his grandmother. The parents drain their savings sending him to rehab. He gets his younger cousin into drugs. He causes extreme stress and anxiety in the whole family. He shoplifts from stores and hits on teenage girls. He sucks up so many family resources that his law abiding brother has to delay marriage and children. ”

    Thanks for this. A lot of truth here — it’s not just an addict who is lost, it’s a whole family.

  79. @Travis

    “How many lives would have been saved if we never imposed lockdowns across the United States.”

    Excellent summary, thanks!

  80. Good. The more degenerates who die from meth and/or fentanyl, or any other recreational drug, the better.

    • Troll: AndrewR
  81. @Travis

    While I agree about the damage that the Kung Flu PanicFest caused, this is on regular Americans too. As Joe Doaks wrote in a different comment, American were in this case, not so much apathetic, but way too compliant. It was the same though. There was too much belief in the word of the Authoritah. Not nearly enough pushback and raising hell occurred.

    Massive resistance to LOCKDOWNs and masking rules could have stirred up the White population to HAVE a cause after all. Then, most were obsequious when it came to this business with the black reprobate druggie George Floyd to boot! It’s too bad it didn’t go a different way.

    There’s no more Spirit of ’76.

  82. Fent didn’t just “contribute” to Saint George’s death. It caused it. The official autopsy showed NO damage to Saint George’s trachea [windpipe] nor to the cervical vertabrae [neck bones]. He had enough fentenyl in his blood to kill him three or four times over. Officer Chauvin didn’t have his knee on Saint George’s neck; it was on his back between the shoulder blades. The first two FACTS I’m citing here come from the official autopsy and toxicology reports. I saw the full video; no officer was pinning Saint George down across the neck. The BIG mistake all the officers made was to let Saint George out of the cop car; they should have told that criminal to STFU; he was under arrest and was going to jail. For being suckers, one man is serving an undeserved defacto lifetime imprisonment and the others are in deep shit. They had him in the cruiser; that’s S.O.P. Why weren’t they en route to the cop shop at that point to book that animal and throw him in a cell?

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, Alden
  83. Fentanyl saved my life when I had a kidney stone.

  84. Carol says:
    @Rob

    First you suggest legalization of illicit drugs for the sake of purity, then execution of the “Stacklers [sic]”, who sold nice, pure prescription opioids? Typical fuzzy libertarian thinking there.

    We were much better off with the Sacklers’ product than we are now. After the great moral panic over opioids we’re lucky to get three days’ worth after major surgery.

    • Agree: Alden
    • Replies: @Rob
  85. @Reg Cæsar

    I believe I saw something several years ago to the effect that Bastardy/Fatherlessness was an even greater indication of future criminality than even race.

  86. @Roger

    Exactly. God, thy hand is nature.

  87. @Reactive Reaction

    Thank you.

    This epidemic of drug abuse has been building for a long time and all we get is more legalization of various poisons. Will those Oregon cities re-think their ignore-the-drugs policies any time soon?

    But there’s something else happening too. Plenty of addicts get arrested, multiple times, and instead of being locked up and forced to get clean, they get released immediately and go back to their drugs. Of course they’re inveterate thieves, too, and frequently street bums. All these social problems are intertwined and simple, strict law-enforcement is the foundation of a possible fix.

    I’m contemplating voting for Michael Schellenberger in CA just on this issue alone.

    If you’ve ever wondered how people could vote for something like prohibition, well I think we’re beginning to see how bad things can get and what could take us there.

  88. @Anon

    Like I say, America’s sobriety moment is coming.

    Are there any good-sized groups of celebrities out there promoting abstinence? From my vantage point, all I see is booze, booze, booze.

    I wonder, are there any tee-totalers here on Unz?

  89. @Chebyshev

    Does fentanyl mainly claim the lives of lowlifes like Floyd?

    Tom Petty and Prince died from fentanyl.

    • Replies: @prosa123
  90. prosa123 says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Tom Petty and Prince died from fentanyl.

    Tom Petty used drugs because he was in constant severe pain from hip and knee problems. I have no idea why Prince used.

    • Replies: @Sollipsist
    , @Rob
  91. @Bardon Kaldlan

    “…and an innocent White man locked up in hellish prison,with monsters surrounding him,for life. ”

    Where are the wealthy conservatives who will put their money where their mouths are? Where are the legal firms who provide pro bono services to fight injustice? Derek Chauvin clearly should have a new trial in a different jurisdiction, at least. There is a significant question in my mind about adequacy of counsel in his case as well.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  92. Anon[121] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mark G.

    The tragedy of low class whites is the wasted potential. Remember: dirt-poor Okies became suburbanites within a few years. Circumstances beyond their control really were holding them back. Who knows how much wasted potential is out there among white drug addicts?

    The unfortunate truth of life in America is that this potential is genetic and mostly confined to whites.

  93. Escher says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    That’s why the establishment is working towards a cashless world.
    When all payments are online, you are always in the sight of big brother.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  94. @prosa123

    Sounds like a joke, but it’s true: Prince was a heavy painkiller user largely because of decades of dancing around on stage in high heels.

    Can’t be totally sympathetic, because it was his choice to wreck his body. It’s not like he had an accident and got hooked during recovery. But still, the guy might well be with us today if he’d switched to more sensible shoes in the 90s.

  95. Rob says:
    @prosa123

    Prince was also in chronic pain. I believe from hip and shoulder injuries accumulated in part by stage diving. I’m prescribed opioids. If they got me high, I’d probably abuse them, too.

  96. @stillCARealist

    “… America’s sobriety moment is coming.”

    With psilocybin mushrooms available on the Dark Web? Not likely.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  97. @SunBakedSuburb

    Thanks to the Dark Web Art Deco be ‘shroomin’ all day every day.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
  98. @Joe Stalin

    I wonder how much money our society spends on saving the lives of people this irresponsible and stupid annually.

    Americans live under the delusion that they are living in a country of limitless wealth, as opposed to the reality that they live in the most indebted country or empire in history.

    We import illiterate poverty stricken peasants, and then we whine about income inequality.

    What, exactly, did we expect to happen from such a policy?

    I weep for what used to be my country.

  99. martin_2 says:
    @Joseph Doaks

    If this was the attitude in 1776 we’d still be singing “God Save the Queen.

    You write as if that would be a bad thing.

  100. @SunBakedSuburb

    Twenty minutes into my Dark Web mushroom trip Steve’s creepy dog would wander into the room and I would jump out of the window like Art Linkletter’s daughter.

    • Replies: @zoos
  101. @stillCARealist

    I wonder, are there any tee-totalers here on Unz?

    I don’t drink any more, per my Doctor’s advice.

    [MORE]
    He said I don’t have to drink any less either though, just no more than I already do.

    • Thanks: duncsbaby
    • LOL: The Anti-Gnostic
    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
  102. Corn says:
    @stillCARealist

    I’m a teetotaler. Not a celebrity of course, nor religious. Just decided I didn’t need alcohol.

  103. @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s getting to be a tough call.

    A very trivial version of this was at the height of the Corona Virus hysteria — when around here at least they went through a phase of asking you if you were vaccinated if you weren’t wearing a mask.

    I like to be punctiliously honest — so my wife was shocked to hear me calmly say ‘yes’ when asked if I was vaccinated.

    It was a choice between lying and submitting to their bullshit. At some point, you choose lying.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  104. Kylie says:
    @stillCARealist

    “I wonder, are there any tee-totalers here on Unz?”

    Teetotaler since 1994. Non-smoker since 2005. Still use caffeine.

  105. Dennis Dale says: • Website

    But, instead, suggesting that drugs contributed to Floyd’s death was a Conspiracy Theory and Disinformation.

    But they didn’t label that fact misinformation at all–they just engaged their own campaign of disinformation, to the extent they gave it any attention, using the family’s bs autopsy to counter the original autopsy showing Floyd died of drug overdose.

    The answer to troublesome data is more data. Keep the grift moving People receive it gratefully and uncritically if it just helps them sleep. I’m reminded of Caddy Shack, when the Judge is in a pickle on the golf course and he calls for “the old Billy Baroo”; I often imagine people caressing a new “study” the way the Judge lovingly embraces Billy:

    Many things call for the old Billy Baroo nowadays.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
  106. “How many lives would have been saved over the last two years if the press had trumpeted the fact that George Floyd had both meth and fentanyl in his system when he died”

    Hopefully that number is zero. Methheads and opiate junkies – usually one and the same person – are worse than useless: may they all die.

    The press can instead trumpet that heroin is safer than fentanyl when you need to climb down in a hurry off your latest three-day meth binge. Alcohol is even safer, but it takes a couple hours.

    Wringing one’s hands over drug overdoses is like wringing one’s hands over black-on-black crime – utterly disingenuous. Both are eugenic and prosocial.

    • Agree: Alden
  107. Dennis Dale says: • Website
    @Dennis Dale

    “My God, look at the composition of that graph…”

  108. OT: Your girl Lisa Cook got confirmed to the Fed so I am sure inflation will be over real soon.

    “Her approval was on a narrow, party-line vote of 51-50, with Vice President Kamala Harris casting the decisive vote. ”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  109. Mike Tre says:
    @Roger

    Whites are by far most negatively affected by the opioid crisis.

  110. LoneStar says:

    Derek Chauvin was found guilty of murder by smirking.

  111. donny says:

    what’s wild to me is even after all we’ve been through and all the lessons we’ve supposedly learned, there’s still a good tenth or so of the 40 and up crowd who have a perpetual script for lortab qid for back pain or fibro or whatever

  112. @Joseph Doaks

    I read the other day that Chauvin pleaded guilty to the Federal double jeopardy charges and will spend at least 17 years in prison.

  113. @stillCARealist

    I don’t drink as much as I’d like too. Three beers and I’m about done.

  114. Anonymous[375] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Do the fentanyl and meth deaths lower costs of incarceration and improve social security solvency?

    It does conform to a perverse logic.

    1. To protect social security, which, if it failed, would be an historic disaster, we allow for:

    1. Unprecedented fentanyl deaths, to reduce the inherently weak, and black.

    2. An unprecedented number of Latino illegal alien brainless worker drones who are characteristically uncreative and servile, to replace the failed black population.

    3. Siccing Covid on the old, fat, and infirm.

    4. Demoralizing the police, allowing blacks and Latino bad actors to kill each other in historic numbers. Since violence is an inherent feature of black redneck culture, they won’t even notice that somethings amiss, and those blacks who have learned to conform to the dictates of modern civilization will be relieved. Most of the violent Latinos carry Aztec ancestory, so the more those secret savages kill each other, the better, while the favored docile Latino’s remain to breed.

    This radical, yet soft-pedalling, long-term plan will certainly add a few more years of life to our asthmatic social security system. It’s better to do something than nothing, I suppose.

  115. @JimB

    The formula of the only chemical we should injecting condemned criminals with is Pb.

    • Replies: @JimB
  116. @stillCARealist

    I wonder, are there any tee-totalers here on Unz?

    Yes. After a couple decades of heavy drinking, I had to quit in my late 30’s because it was going to kill me. If not for Antabuse, I’d never have been able to pull it off. There’s a lot of Irish in my family tree, so it alcohol abuse comes as naturally to me penny-pinching does to a Jew.

    • LOL: AndrewR
  117. zoos says:
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Twenty minutes into my Dark Web mushroom trip Steve’s creepy dog would wander into the room and I would jump out of the window like Art Linkletter’s daughter.

    That was supposed to be acid, not mushrooms. Nobody has ever committed suicide on mushrooms. As far as I’m aware, acid either.

    Linkletter’s daughter suffered from clinical depression, hadn’t slept for awhile, suffered a manic-depressive episode, her father wasn’t around to provide parental support, as he was working a lot at that time, so she killed herself.

    If you’re known as an all American fatherly figure, having your daughter jump out a 6th floor window at 20 years old hurts your brand. It makes you appear to be the opposite of what you claim.

    You may have been a remote father, but to the discerning public, her problem couldn’t remotely be you, so… better blame acid.

    During that period, a lot of rich shitty parents in Southern California blamed drugs for their children’s early demise. After all, it couldn’t possibly be them.

    See: The Loud family. I’d call them prototypical of the Southern California, well-to-do, asshole family due to fucked up parents. The valley was chocked full of them. The pop hits, “Mother’s Little Helper,” and “Pleasant Valley Sunday” were about them.

    Now you know the rest of the story.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  118. Rob says:
    @Carol

    Not really fuzzy thinking. The Sacklers created a problem that did not exist before they started pushing pills. Now there are lots of addicts. To cope with this Sackler-created problem that is not going away, I think that legalizing opioids so addicts can take known doses of known drugs so they can have something approaching a life.

    If the opioid epidemic were not happening, i would not be in favor of loosening access to opioids.

    According to NPR, opioid users don’t like fentanyl. It has too small of a recreational window and does not last very long, so they have to use more frequently.

    Now that fentanyl is in lots of other recreational drugs, making those drugs legal and pure is the best we can do.

    There’s also the demand side. Since say, 1975 or so, white working class men have not gotten a raise. Housing costs have risen a lot. The only reason working class families have had increased income is through more women working and having fewer childrem than they would like. Those children are born into untenable situations. Factories are gone. To escape working-class poverty requires education. Slum blacks are shoved onto the working class, so their kids don’t get much education at school. College prices are insane. Healthcare too.

    People abuse drugs because they are miserable and don’t have a place in society.

    I would prefer having Primary Campaign Candidate Trump as President. Fantasy Trump could bring back factories, restrict the labor supply so wages would rise…

    Safe drugs for addicts is a really shitty solution. But real solutions are unrealistic. American life is Dickensian for a lot of people, but they have cell phones!

  119. @Escher

    Yep, I’ve been fighting this one on and off for 20 years, Escher. China is too far gone. Even worse than CCs, they use their phones for payments and are almost completely off cash now. It was the opposite as recently as 12 years ago.

  120. ATate says:
    @stillCARealist

    “I wonder, are there any tee-totalers here on Unz?“

    Yep.

    Never had a drink. Never done any drugs.

    Made a promise to myself at 8 watching my hero do drugs and drink. Decided I would never touch the stuff.

    Kept the promise to myself for over 42 years.

  121. “But, instead, suggesting that drugs contributed to Floyd’s death was a Conspiracy Theory and Disinformation.”

    Not to mention that it interferes with The Narrative.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Curle
  122. @PiltdownMan

    Menthol cigarettes and 40 ounce malt liquors, staples of a black neighborhood’s diet.

    • Replies: @Curle
  123. Elli says:
    @ScarletNumber

    I have read that lesbian, bi and genderqueer women have higher rates of abortion than heterosexual women.

    My guess, the rates correlate with troubled minds and dysfunctional behavior.

  124. JimB says:
    @Herbert R. Tarlek, Jr.

    The formula of the only chemical we should injecting condemned criminals with is Pb.

    A firing squad is probably a more humane death than lethal injection. But the shooters can still botch the execution. Best to use a captive bolt gun like the kind ranchers use to stun/kill cattle.

  125. You really have to maintain a straight, matter-of-fact mentality whenever this shitty junkie question comes up. Few can do it.

    The ‘ah, fuck it’ argument of legalizing all narcotics is just a poorly thought-out cultural zeitgeist. Especially when its coming out of people who rail against the usurious banking system that grinds people down into servitude. Also, a meth clinic cropping up next to a payday loan outlet in a poor neighborhood wouldn’t exactly be gentrifying the place. It would look… bad, to say the least.

    Then you have the bootstraps nonsense at the other end. Believe it or not, there’s some of these pretend tough-guys who think you can corral all dopeheads into some kind of labor camp and beat the junkie out of them. Its usually the same older men who think kids these days need to be forced into the military- so that the carjackings in Atlanta and Chicago will stop.

    Of course, you have a lot of degenerate loser mentalities attached to the addict too, but the dope sickness isn’t a lie. Its real. I don’t see the constructiveness of some wannabe drill sergeants essentially torturing feeble and malaised rehabbers because they think they just need a daddy figure.

    • Agree: Alden
  126. Floyd died with his pockets full of Chinese counterfeits, his veins full of Chinese drugs, and his lungs full of Chinese virus. America to blame.

    • Thanks: J.Ross, Alden
  127. @ATate

    Decided I would never touch the stuff.

    Just don’t touch mine!

  128. @Achmed E. Newman

    …this correlation has nothing to do with any causation.

    One does not cause the other, they merely share a cause. Which explains their correlation.

  129. duncsbaby says:
    @stillCARealist

    Sunday – Thursday I’m sober as a judge.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  130. Curle says:
    @ATate

    Your hero was Keith Richards?

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
  131. Curle says:
    @Prester John

    Said with the casual confidence of the Bolshevik state (them not you).

  132. @ATate

    Though I thought Curle’s reply was damned funny, I take it you mean your Dad.

  133. Brutusale says:

    Having had microdoses of both fentanyl and propofol in the past 7 months, I have a wary respect for what they can do. Because of that wariness, it’s Tylenol only, post surgery.

  134. @Achmed E. Newman

    I’m a social drinker.

    If you’re having a drink, then so-shall I.

  135. @duncsbaby

    Well I hope you do all your driving on Fridays and Saturdays, then. Be careful out there.

    • Replies: @duncsbaby
  136. Yngvar says:

    Since the 1970s, the number of drug overdose deaths has increased every year except 2018.

    The year of hope.

  137. LoneStar says:

    Derek Chauvin was convicted of murder by snickering. St. George self overdose never happened and “just us” was rendered by intimated jurors. OJ had his case moved to the jurisdiction of sympathy; but Chauvin’s
    Case remained in the hotbed of guilty by location. Shame on the Judge, but he and his family remain safe by his cowardice. This is the first case of guilt by smirking. Law enforcement people might be advised to mask up for their own safety.

    • Replies: @Curle
  138. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    The reason the percentage of Whites has gone down so much is government and employers policy if importing tens of millions of non Whites since the 1965 immigration act and the Rockefeller puppet President Nixon’s opening to China.

    Tens of millions of Hispanic Indians and Asian business people and medical and stem workers.

    It’s a planned organized gradual genocide plan to rid America of all but a few very elite Whites.
    You know it. I know it. Everyone on this site knows it.

    The decline in the percentage of Whites in America has nothing to do with abortion and birth control. It has everything to do with the tens of millions of non Whites who our government invites in and our employers hire instead of White Americans.

    And if you feel so strongly about the issue of more White children. Conceive and raise some more of them.

  139. Alden says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    There are about 35 million more Whites in America in the 2020 census than there were in the 1970 census. So the number of Whites has substantially risen .

    The percentage of Whites has substantially declined because the United States government and every sector of the elites from churches to farmers to sweatshop food processing restaurant owners medical providers government workers every sector of the elites has imported about 47 million non Whites and given them every job, business loan, business contract welfare check and housing denied to Whites by federal and state laws and judicial orders.

    Instead of fantasies about evil feminazis getting abortions you should worry about the next step the government and elites have for the genocide of Whites.

    • Thanks: Charon
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  140. Alden says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Vdare.com archives has many articles on hospital obstetrics departments closing because the flood of anchor babies bankrupted them. Utilities and workers have to be paid, buildings have to be maintained and supplies have to be bought. Can’t do it on the meager medi caid payments 80 percent of the patients bring in.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Brutusale
  141. Curle says:
    @LoneStar

    I looked for a picture showing a smirk couldn’t find one.

  142. @Alden

    Instead of fantasies about evil feminazis getting abortions…

    Performing them.

    evil feminazis

    the next step the government and elites have for the genocide of Whites.

    They are allies in the cause. You’re splitting hairs.

    I take a Pattonesque view: no dumb bastard ever won a war with “reproductive rights”. You want the other poor dumb bastard to exercise her reproductive rights. Or better yet, not.

  143. @Achmed E. Newman

    True enough….not enough whites left to put up much of a fight against tyranny today. The White population has been declining for years, and the decline is now accelerating. The number of whites under the age of 40 fallen by 30% since 1990, from 120 million to just 86 million today. Most whites in America are over the age of 50, too old and weak to take a stand against tyranny.

  144. duncsbaby says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    No, I don’t drive drunk. Far too old for that nonsense.

  145. SOL says:

    Lord have mercy.

  146. @duncsbaby

    I don’t want you out there when you’re “sober as a judge”. I thought that meant “drunk off my ass”, hence, I figure you would be in better shape on Fridays and Saturdays. ;-}

  147. @zoos

    “Nobody has ever committed suicide on mushrooms. As far as I’m aware, acid either.”

    Nick Cave’s son fell off Beachy Head after taking acid. Ruled accidental, although anyone taking acid on a clifftop hasn’t much sense of self-preservation. I can’t think of many places more dangerous to take it. A motorway hard shoulder, the deck of a yacht?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-34779370

    The inquest heard Arthur had taken LSD with a friend and he was seen “staggering” on his own before he fell off the cliff. Members of the public tried to resuscitate him after he was found lying on the ground without any shoes or socks on. During evidence given by pathologist Dr Simi George, Ms Hamilton-Deeley asked: “The history you had was that LSD was used?”

    Dr George replied: “Yes.” The cause of death was given as “multiple traumatic injuries due to a fall from a height”.

    Still, people who take psychedelics in the US generally have lower rates of suicide, perhaps because it opens inner doors (man) no matter how crappy your real existence. I don’t know if they control for race though, psychedelics tend to be white people’s drugs.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4721603/

  148. duncsbaby says:
    @duncsbaby

    No, truly during the work week I don’t drink at all. On the weekend I imbibe but do not binge drink, don’t care what the asshole psych majors say. I drink in the evenings on my days off. I don’t burn the candle at both ends any more. I used to big time in my 20’s. Like a lot of us did, I am sure. I was working 2-3 jobs then too a lot of the time, not actually having days off but would get foully drunk a couple days a week whether I worked early or not. As a matter of a fact, I couldn’t find any Leinies at the liquor store today, so now I’m quaffing Old Styles at a much lower price, not too bad, might’ve found my new favorite beer.

  149. Brutusale says:
    @Alden

    My girlfriend has been talking about this for a few years. A lower percentage of insured people having kids skews your OB/GYN and pediatric departments to treating the 20-cents-on-the-dollar crowd.

    https://www.bostonglobe.com/2022/01/20/metro/tufts-medical-center-will-close-its-pediatric-hospital-after-more-than-century-treating-sick-kids/

  150. Hhsiii says:
    @Curle

    Ah, google the sink Cold Cock Malt liquor ad. Tim Meadows does the Billy Dee.

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