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Yesterday, I pointed out that while mass killing shootings are much more common today than a half-century ago, serial killers have been in decline. Taxi Driver-style assassinations and threats upon politicians and celebrities are also down:

Swedish tennis star Bjorn Borg also received death threats. From the Washington Post in 1979:

Terrorists Threaten Borg

By Ron Rosen, March 2, 1979

Bjorn Borg’s cool has been disrupted by Swedish media treatment of a threat on his life, attributed to the Italian terrorist gang that murdered Italy’s President Aldo Moro….

Borg, tennis’ No. 1, doesn’t know whether the threat is a hoax, but scratched a match in Goteborg next weekend with John McEnroe and said he won’t play in his homeland this year. Borg received a similar threat, believed to have been by telephone from Stockholm, when in Milan in October; withdrew from competition there and had received no further warnings until now — when he, Stockholm police, Royal Tennis Club and Swedish news outlets received a letter mailed in Stockholm saying “Red Brigade — death sentence — Bjorn Borg.” Attached was a photo, widely published at the time, of Borg posing in Israeli army uniform during a visit to the Middle East last fall.

Borg also received two death threats at the US Open in 1981.

From USA Today’s obituary for golfer Hubert Green:

Hubert Green, who overcame death threat to win ’77 U.S. Open, dies at 71

Associated Press
June 20, 2018 2:42 pm ET

Hall of Fame golfer Hubert Green, who won a U.S. Open playing portions of the final round despite a threat against his life, has died. He was 71. …

Green held a one-stroke lead at Southern Hills in Tulsa, Oklahoma, when he completed the 14th hole of the final round of the U.S. Open. He then was notified by tournament officials they had received a threat saying he would be shot when he reached the 15th green.

Given the choice to clear the course of fans or return the following day, Green played on and captured his first major by one stroke, even making birdie at the 16th hole.

Hubert Green? Did somebody contemplate becoming the Lee Harvey Oswald of golf fans by assassinating Hubert Green?

Or maybe he’d bet his house on whoever was in second place and hoped to rattle Hubie?

Anyway, Green played on and won.

 
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  1. Most recent threats against politicians are at their root instigated by the FBI.

    • Agree: J.Ross, Ron Mexico
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @Chris Mallory

    The FBI is a domestic intelligence/political police organization that serves the dominant ideology in DC. At this point it is perhaps the most dangerous federal bureaucracy to the life of the average citizen. Send its legitimate law enforcement functions back to the states along with required funding. What remains needs to be dissolved and investigated by investigative entities unconnected to Main Justice (DOJ suffers from the same disease).

  2. What is the stress of a death threat compared to being in the lead at the U. S. Open on Day 4 as you stand in the first tee box? It might have barely registered.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Emil Nikola Richard

    Lol exactly. Or the 18th tee with a 1 shot lead. Ask Mito Perriara. His worst swing in 10 years.

    Who knew Huber Green could elicit such fury?

  3. If you want to disprove US security service involvement then the Red Brigade probably isn’t the best example.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @J.Ross

    I agree.
    How soon they forget. It must be so frustrating seeing your best work go unacknowledged.

    The CIA isn't getting nearly enough credit for the Operation Gladio links to the Uke's Banderites.

  4. FBI voice: “Oh great, we screwed that one up, gonna hafta do one more to make up for it.” People are talking about la policia de Uvalde not only not doing anything about an active shooter, but possibly entering the school — not to do their job, but to rescue their own kids, and leave the other kids there. Understandable but also unbecoming. So now there’s a media-noticed shooting in an Ohio Wal-Mart. Lindsay Graham and a few other scumbags currently working with Democrats to infringe rights.

  5. And apparently we’re awash in phony death threats against political actors. Every time a leftie wades into controversy or God forbids gets “cancelled
    –like the Misinformation Maven what’s-her-name– it’s all about the many, many death threats they’ve received. Tucker Carlson probably gets them daily.
    But when’s the last time someone acted on them? Aside from Chapelle’s would-be tackler, I’m hard-pressed to recall an assault on a celebrity or politician.

    That guy who shot Scalise at the softball game–I wonder if he made threats first. Probably not.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Dennis Dale

    Death threats are now status symbols, so it's no surprise that people iso status will make them up if necessary. In a related story, Amber Heard is claiming—on the stand—that people are threatening to microwave her baby, just because she tried to stand up for battered women everywhere.

    Replies: @AndrewR

  6. How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that “aphasia” means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State’s magic bug juice. They’ll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it’s going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    • Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    So true....the boomers freaked out when 3.2 million Americans died in 2020, yet 3.4 million died in 2021 and 2022 will be another record of deaths as Americans continue to die in record numbers. excess deaths were higher in 2021 than 2020 and will be higher again in 2022.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    , @usNthem
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Aphasia, not likely. It’s either Alzheimer’s or dementia. If Bruce has enough marbles left, he should probably just head out to the forest or desert and wander off. No disagreement AG.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @anonymous
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    “aphasia” means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food
     
    That's dysphagia.
    Aphasia/dysphasia = can't speak
    Aphagia/dysphagia = can't swallow

    Apparently aphasia websites field this mixup often enough to require an explanation page:
    https://www.aphasia.org/aphasia-resources/dysphagia/

    The prognosis for either is...well, I guess an anti-gnostic wouldn't be interested.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
     
    Richards did most of his aging 50 years ago, and has been clean for decades. Watts engaged in a long-term deleterious activity that his bandmates didn't--



    ...sitting.

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210824124706-03-charlie-watts-rolling-stones-lead-image-exlarge-169.jpg


    Still, Ringo and Dave Clark have outlived their colleagues. Carmine Appice is still with Vanilla Fudge, a band whose members' metabolisms are as slow as their songs.

    Replies: @Alden, @duncsbaby

    , @duncsbaby
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Dude, we are trying to have a light and airy conversation about assassination attempts and death threats here. Don't be such a downer!

    Sorry to hear about Ray Liotta. I remember when he was an up and comer. He was very, very good in Goodfellas. His performance is overlooked because of Joe Pesci's and Martin Scorsese's pyrotechnic directing, but it held the movie together. RIP, indeed.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    The best thing is to go in time ....

    https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/bafykbzaceciej3dg4jezdnmwusb7mmugqijw26ogmwnwweclzidgiwhp64ako?filename=Derek%20Humphry%20-%20Final%20Exit%20Digital%20Edition%20%282009%29.pdf

    One person who challenged us all on this issue was Janet Adkins, of Portland, Oregon, when she took her life with the help of Dr. Jack Kevorkian in Michigan in 1990.
    She waited only a year until the first bad symptoms of Alzheimer’s began to show, notably memory loss. She was widely criticized by many health professionals for taking
    her life when in the same week she had played tennis. They argued that she still had much quality of life remaining.

    There was no question that she was still physically well, but her mind had deteriorated so badly that she could not keep the tennis score. To Janet, her intellectual faculties
    were more important than bodily well-being and the decision on the quality-of-life issues was hers alone to make.
    Janet, and many other victims of the same disease, are worried about what point their mental deterioration will become so serious that they are unable to think and act for
    themselves and also become legally an “incompetent.” At a certain point in the disease—perhaps after two to five years, but there is no certainty—the patient’s intellectual
    deterioration becomes so serious that personal control is lost and another ten to fifteen years of illness follows. At that point, it is too late for voluntary euthanasia!

    The decision of Janet Adkins to die at the time she did probably surprised me less than anybody, because I hear of this happening a great deal in unreported cases. Most of
    these exits are as a result of Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, ALS, or degenerative old age. I also knew that Janet was a member of a right-to-die group even before the onset of her illness and that she had been making inquiries about self-deliverance before going to Dr. Kevorkian. There are other forms of senility, of course, and the effect of slight strokes also advises people that their life is drawing to a close.

    When will the final stroke come? It could be years away, which might mean a nursing home for the final years. Many people have seen their parents through a grim deathwatch and do not wish to repeat it for themselves. It is not uncommon for such people to look back on their lives, count their blessings, and proceed to end their existence. The tragedy is that if there were lawful, planned medical euthanasia available they could have lived many months longer. But so long as America remains in the “do-it-yourself” mode, these early suicides are bound to continue.

    , @Mike Tre
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Ray Lipton was a 3 pack a day guy and in poor health for at least 10 years

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    , @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    They’ll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it’s going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    No it won't. Birth cohorts increased in size from 1936 to 1957, then began to decline. About 30% of those people are already deceased and all of them are past the median retirement age.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  7. You should really pay attention to your hometown media.

    Former Unz laughingstock and current LA Times token bean Gustavo Arellano: “a Latino had never been the killer in any of … the 10 worst mass shootings — until Ramos.”

    I guess he’s never heard of Angel Resendiz, Mexican serial killer (official body count: 23). Of course what Arellano is doing is playing word games. Latinos haven’t been spree shooters typically, so what is there to complain about? Oh nothing, except railroad hobos with pickaxes.

    Plus all this went down in the 1990s, and who remembers that?

    And this from Arellano:

    “The tragedy in Uvalde disproves what white supremacists say about Latinos and other minorities. We’re not unassimilable; we all become part of the United States.”

    Nice deflection there. Now tell us about Mexican gun violence. Of course, being a proud bean, I’m sure he blames Mexican gun violence on American weapons being trafficked across the border to innocent people with no agency. It’s what they all do.

    • Thanks: Frau Katze
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Bragadocious

    This Gustavo Arellano should also note the "Hispanic" true mass murder method of choice, if we could say such a thing about such infrequent crimes in the US, is arson, see the Dupont Plaza Hotel arson and the the Happy Land fire which respectively killed 96-98 and 87 people. As far as criminal mass murder in the US, I'm not sure there's any with higher death tolls, depending on how you score Muslim terrorist attacks.

  8. @The Anti-Gnostic
    How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco

    So true….the boomers freaked out when 3.2 million Americans died in 2020, yet 3.4 million died in 2021 and 2022 will be another record of deaths as Americans continue to die in record numbers. excess deaths were higher in 2021 than 2020 and will be higher again in 2022.

    • Agree: Mike Tre
    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    When only 2.9 million people died in 2019, "the Boomers" and lots of people outside their generation like my parents and myself were right to "freak out" over the worst pandemic since 1918-9. That's 530K extra deaths before you you subtract the 50-80K per AnotherDad for annual increases due to an aging population. As extensively discussed on iSteve there's good reasons a full year of the pandemic killed even more people.

    Afraid those of you maliciously waiting for us vaxxed to all drop dead are still going to be disappointed, after the aftermath of Omicron wave started ending in March the all cause excess deaths also dropped dramatically and pretty quickly to about normal (look here, noting that it takes up to eight weeks or more for death certificates to make it to the CDC and get tallied, so the last few weeks are under counts).

  9. I seem to remember a MNF where Tom Landry was informed of a threat against his life. Came back out to coach with a bullet proof vest underneath his suit.

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Ron Mexico

    Monday Night Football was where many Americans (including my newsroom) got the news about Lennon, via Howard Cosell

    , @Danindc
    @Ron Mexico

    Would’ve been funny if he was also wearing helmet

  10. The Crazy Years

    Taxi Driver-style assassinations and threats upon politicians and celebrities

    Swedish tennis star Bjorn Borg also received death threats.

    A couple of relevant tracks from ’90s shoegaze band Majesty Crush for your consideration. I assumed the singer was White; I didn’t know the lead singer was a crazy tragic mulatto (‘GI father’, German mother?) until looking up the band for this comment.

    Wikipedia:

    While incorporating the same lush, dreamy sound as other shoegazing acts of the time, it was the lyrics of Majesty Crush songs that set them apart from other artists of the genre. Stroughter’s often strange and obsessive lyrics cover such subjects as stalking Jodie Foster (“No. 1 Fan”), torture (“Boyfriend”), heroin (“Horse”), a female cashier at an adult book store (“Sunny Pie”), actresses (“Uma”), tennis stars (“Seles”) and Italian porn stars (“Cicciolina”).

    Officer Involved Shooting of David Stroughter

    El Segundo Police Department

    https://da.lacounty.gov/sites/default/files/pdf/JSID_OIS_07_2017_Stroughter.pdf

    LA Times identifies Stroughter as a “white male” :

    David Darnell Stroughter, 50

    March 30, 2017

    David Darnell Stroughter, a 50-year-old white male, died Wednesday, Jan. 18, after being shot by law enforcement near Kentwood & Manchester avenues in Westchester, according to Los Angeles County Medical Examiner-Coroner’s records.


    David Stroughter, 1966-2017: A remembrance

    David Stroughter, 1966-2017: A remembrance

    https://www.metrotimes.com/music/david-stroughter-1966-2017-a-rememberance-2484678

  11. @The Anti-Gnostic
    How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco

    Aphasia, not likely. It’s either Alzheimer’s or dementia. If Bruce has enough marbles left, he should probably just head out to the forest or desert and wander off. No disagreement AG.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @usNthem

    Yes. Insh'allah if my mind goes before my body I have enough marbles to recognize that time when it comes, but I don't think that's how it works out.

    Replies: @usNthem

  12. Hubert Green? Did somebody contemplate becoming the Lee Harvey Oswald of golf fans by assassinating Hubert Green?

    He was just a patsy. It was a second shooter.

    On a grassy knoll.

    By the way, why aren’t there more pro-golfers named “Green”?

    • Replies: @Known Fact
    @Mr. Anon


    By the way, why aren’t there more pro-golfers named “Green”?
     
    Or Irons. Or Woods -- oh wait

    Replies: @dearieme

  13. Institutionalize the insane. This problem solved along with homelessness.

    This plus actually enforcing the law in the inner cities begins to make them livable again.

    • Replies: @jay
    @Wade Hampton

    All murder by either Men or Women should result in execution. Men make up 89% of murderers and women 11%


    "With the exception of Oklahoma, Texas and Florida, 50% of the population, who commit 11% of all murders, are virtually exempt from actual execution it would seem, this being the female half of society. Just eleven women have been executed between 1984 and 2011, of whom two were consensual – Christina Riggs in Arkansas and Aileen Wournoss in Florida."

    http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/deterrence.html

    No one should get away with murder. They need all to perish.

  14. Björn was right to worry. A few years later, his own prime minister, Olof Palme, was assassinated on a main drag in Stockholm.

    Anyone know if he lived in nearby Hötorget Towers? That means “the Haymarket”, not the vibe the architecture emits:

    Cue The Bob Newhart Show opening credits! Apparently Palme didn’t live there, not in 1986:

    Originally, intentions were to allow a series of pedestrian bridges connect shops and malls on several levels below and around the buildings, but vandalism and other social problems forced the closure of all levels above ground in the 1970s.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6torget_buildings

    But Roland Huntford in The New Totalitarians noted that Palme and other high figures did indeed live in boring apartments in such pedestrian edifices.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Reg Cæsar


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Sergels_torg_dec_2010.jpg/1441px-Sergels_torg_dec_2010.jpg
     
    I AM MODERN ARCHITECTURE,
    DESTROYER OF CITIES.

    Replies: @Alden

  15. Among the good which can come out of the Uvalde tragedy: will we now be able to discuss the harms of smoking cannabis?
    https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/urgent-the-new-york-times-has-edited/comments?s=r

    • Agree: Old Prude
  16. Forgive my being off topic, but I’m watching the Warriors close out Dallas while reenacting the Yugoslav wars with Serbs Nemanja Bielica and Luka Doncic on the floor. The Warriors faced another Serb Nikola Jokic playing for the Nuggets against the Warriors in the first round. Doncic and Jokic are both first team all-NBA.

    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Wade Hampton

    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).

    The number of American Whites in the NBA is slightly higher than the number of Euro/SA/Aussie Whites fwiw.

    , @duncsbaby
    @Wade Hampton


    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).
     
    Steve has actually addressed this phenomenon before. He theorized that tall athletic white kids are groomed to be pitchers nowadays because there's more likelihood of success in baseball. I'm paraphrasing of course from memory, Steve may be able to set you straight, if he's interested.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Peter Akuleyev

  17. Did somebody contemplate becoming the Lee Harvey Oswald of golf fans by assassinating Hubert Green?

    Hopefully the Deep State will leave the golf course architects alone.

    BTW, I know you started this off about serial killers, but if anyone thinks today’s times are less crazy than the 1960s or ’70s, he hasn’t read, well, YOUR own blog, for one.

  18. @Dennis Dale
    And apparently we're awash in phony death threats against political actors. Every time a leftie wades into controversy or God forbids gets "cancelled
    --like the Misinformation Maven what's-her-name-- it's all about the many, many death threats they've received. Tucker Carlson probably gets them daily.
    But when's the last time someone acted on them? Aside from Chapelle's would-be tackler, I'm hard-pressed to recall an assault on a celebrity or politician.

    That guy who shot Scalise at the softball game--I wonder if he made threats first. Probably not.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Death threats are now status symbols, so it’s no surprise that people iso status will make them up if necessary. In a related story, Amber Heard is claiming—on the stand—that people are threatening to microwave her baby, just because she tried to stand up for battered women everywhere.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @HammerJack

    vox.com told me that Amber Heard is a victim, so obviously she is good and Johnny is bad. It's literally science, chud.

  19. @Reg Cæsar
    Björn was right to worry. A few years later, his own prime minister, Olof Palme, was assassinated on a main drag in Stockholm.

    Anyone know if he lived in nearby Hötorget Towers? That means "the Haymarket", not the vibe the architecture emits:


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Sergels_torg_dec_2010.jpg/1441px-Sergels_torg_dec_2010.jpg


    Cue The Bob Newhart Show opening credits! Apparently Palme didn't live there, not in 1986:


    Originally, intentions were to allow a series of pedestrian bridges connect shops and malls on several levels below and around the buildings, but vandalism and other social problems forced the closure of all levels above ground in the 1970s.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%B6torget_buildings
     

    But Roland Huntford in The New Totalitarians noted that Palme and other high figures did indeed live in boring apartments in such pedestrian edifices.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    • Replies: @Alden
    @HammerJack

    Thanks I’ll remember Modern architecture destroyer of cities. I shall refrain from my usual diatribe about Scandinavian furniture and Scandinavian color schemes ranging from oatmeal to cream of wheat to mashed up brown and white rice. In the old days Scandinavian interiors featured cabinets and woodwork painted light blue with lots of red and yellow flowers and S and C curves. Wanted to hire an artist to do the kitchen like that. Husband refused. Meanie.

  20. anonymous[585] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Anti-Gnostic
    How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco

    “aphasia” means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food

    That’s dysphagia.
    Aphasia/dysphasia = can’t speak
    Aphagia/dysphagia = can’t swallow

    Apparently aphasia websites field this mixup often enough to require an explanation page:
    https://www.aphasia.org/aphasia-resources/dysphagia/

    The prognosis for either is…well, I guess an anti-gnostic wouldn’t be interested.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @anonymous

    It's all just "Alzheimer's." Your brain is deteriorating from the front back and the top down. And whether you are at ideal body weight and in exquisite cardiovascular shape does not matter.

  21. @The Anti-Gnostic
    How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Richards did most of his aging 50 years ago, and has been clean for decades. Watts engaged in a long-term deleterious activity that his bandmates didn’t–

    [MORE]

    …sitting.

    Still, Ringo and Dave Clark have outlived their colleagues. Carmine Appice is still with Vanilla Fudge, a band whose members’ metabolisms are as slow as their songs.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    I remember a picture of Keith and his father in father’s 80th birthday. Father looked younger.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @duncsbaby
    @Reg Cæsar

    It's all just a big crap shoot, all the Ramones' drummers outlived Joey, Johnny, & Dee Dee. Hell, even Topper Headon is still alive and he was a smack junkie. Bill Kreutzman and Mickey Hart of the Dead are still among the living. Although I do see that Alan White expired yesterday, maybe it was just his time.

    Favorite underrated Yes album was Drama, when Jon Anderson left the band and Buggles joined up. I'm pretty sure the critics hated it. This is a great song though. RIP Alan White.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXhYsMEjsZ8

  22. @Emil Nikola Richard
    What is the stress of a death threat compared to being in the lead at the U. S. Open on Day 4 as you stand in the first tee box? It might have barely registered.

    Replies: @Danindc

    Lol exactly. Or the 18th tee with a 1 shot lead. Ask Mito Perriara. His worst swing in 10 years.

    Who knew Huber Green could elicit such fury?

  23. @anonymous
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    “aphasia” means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food
     
    That's dysphagia.
    Aphasia/dysphasia = can't speak
    Aphagia/dysphagia = can't swallow

    Apparently aphasia websites field this mixup often enough to require an explanation page:
    https://www.aphasia.org/aphasia-resources/dysphagia/

    The prognosis for either is...well, I guess an anti-gnostic wouldn't be interested.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    It’s all just “Alzheimer’s.” Your brain is deteriorating from the front back and the top down. And whether you are at ideal body weight and in exquisite cardiovascular shape does not matter.

  24. @HammerJack
    @Reg Cæsar


    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c5/Sergels_torg_dec_2010.jpg/1441px-Sergels_torg_dec_2010.jpg
     
    I AM MODERN ARCHITECTURE,
    DESTROYER OF CITIES.

    Replies: @Alden

    Thanks I’ll remember Modern architecture destroyer of cities. I shall refrain from my usual diatribe about Scandinavian furniture and Scandinavian color schemes ranging from oatmeal to cream of wheat to mashed up brown and white rice. In the old days Scandinavian interiors featured cabinets and woodwork painted light blue with lots of red and yellow flowers and S and C curves. Wanted to hire an artist to do the kitchen like that. Husband refused. Meanie.

  25. I wonder if part of the decline of serial killers is due possible victims becoming more aware.

    I was born in 1951 but my mother was a true crime buff. She had books about various serial killers of the past (they did exist in the entire 20th century, and the first widely studied case, Jack the Ripper, dates to the late 19th century).

    So she warned me very carefully from a young age. And I read the books myself as a teenager.

    So I was more aware than average due to this background. But it didn’t long after the explosion in cases for others to become more aware.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    There's a really aberrant episode in Ray Bradbury's Dandelion Wine (1957) where there is a kind of serial killer called "The Lonely One," and the treatment is that not only are the women aware but some are too aware and making false identifications. And it wasn't frequently discussed but there are references to child molestation from mid-century, in the second segment of the Jack Webb Dragnet pilot/movie, Joseph Heller's Catch-22, and that educational cartoon about the blonde twins who are approached by about twenty molesters in the space of five minutes. Wasn't there enormous popular awareness about Jack the Ripper?

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    , @Charlotte
    @Frau Katze

    Women certainly learned not to hitchhike and so forth. Even respectable young women hitchhiked in the forties. Haven’t some of the more recent serial killers either focused on prostitutes or attacked victims in their homes? I wonder if the in-your-face violence of movies like Rambo didn’t make mowing people down seem more glamorous than furtive, solitary killing to a certain kind of mind. And once one person does it in a high-profile way, there’s a sort of cultural template to follow.

    , @Sam Hildebrand
    @Frau Katze

    "I wonder if part of the decline of serial killers is due possible victims becoming more aware."

    I suspect it has more to do with current technology. Serial killers get caught before they kill enough to be cosidered serial killers. How many times does the average person end up on video every time they leave their home? Several hundred times. Then there is DNA testing, cell phone tracking, OnStar, IP address history, satellite images. Law enforcement has the tools to solve most crimes, if they wanted to.

  26. @Reg Cæsar
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
     
    Richards did most of his aging 50 years ago, and has been clean for decades. Watts engaged in a long-term deleterious activity that his bandmates didn't--



    ...sitting.

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210824124706-03-charlie-watts-rolling-stones-lead-image-exlarge-169.jpg


    Still, Ringo and Dave Clark have outlived their colleagues. Carmine Appice is still with Vanilla Fudge, a band whose members' metabolisms are as slow as their songs.

    Replies: @Alden, @duncsbaby

    I remember a picture of Keith and his father in father’s 80th birthday. Father looked younger.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Alden


    I remember a picture of Keith and his father in father’s 80th birthday. Father looked younger.
     
    Edgar Winter was 34 months younger than brother Johnny, but looked 34 years younger. Scientology is easier on the body than heroin.
  27. @usNthem
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Aphasia, not likely. It’s either Alzheimer’s or dementia. If Bruce has enough marbles left, he should probably just head out to the forest or desert and wander off. No disagreement AG.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Yes. Insh’allah if my mind goes before my body I have enough marbles to recognize that time when it comes, but I don’t think that’s how it works out.

    • Replies: @usNthem
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Unfortunately true.

  28. I think the decline in assassinations is due to much increased security.

    I realize few Steve readers listen to Ben Shapiro but I do.

    In wake of the Uvalde shooting, he had an interesting video about security at private schools, especially Jewish ones. He’s familiar with it from his own schooling and now he has kids of his own.

    He thinks it should be an obvious way to improve the situation for public schools.

  29. Hubert Green looked like he could’ve been a brother in the Bush clan.

  30. So who’s right? Don McLaughlin, or Don McLean?

  31. Gerald Ford….I mean, why would someone try to assassinate Gerald Ford?

    Aside: I don’t know why but whenever the name Lynette ‘Squeaky’ Fromme comes up I picture Lorraine Newman from the original Saturday Night Live case.

    • Replies: @Anon
    @stari_momak

    I believe Fromme along with her parents and siblings were a kind of traveling singing cowboy group in the 50s. I think they enjoyed some popularity at that time. What a trajectory.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @stari_momak

    "... why would someone try to assassinate Gerald Ford?"

    Lynette Fromme, unwitting operative in the Manson Family psyop, attempted to kill Ford on the state capitol grounds in Sacramento, September 5, 1975. A few days later, on September 22, Sara Jane Moore, well known to the Secret Service as an unstable individual on psychotropic drugs, got very close to Ford in San Francisco and managed to fire off a couple of rounds from a .44 before being subdued.

    Who was President Ford's VP? Nelson Rockefeller. That's why.

    Replies: @Alden

  32. @The Anti-Gnostic
    How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco

    Dude, we are trying to have a light and airy conversation about assassination attempts and death threats here. Don’t be such a downer!

    Sorry to hear about Ray Liotta. I remember when he was an up and comer. He was very, very good in Goodfellas. His performance is overlooked because of Joe Pesci’s and Martin Scorsese’s pyrotechnic directing, but it held the movie together. RIP, indeed.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @duncsbaby

    LOL. Good day to you as well sir!

    Yes, it's bad about Ray; 67 is too young to go.

    My pop should have made it to 100 with his excellent physical fitness but Alzheimer's got him in his 70's. A failing GI tract killed him before he would have forgotten who we were so thank God for small favors. Bruce Willis's family is in for a rough ride.

  33. @Frau Katze
    I wonder if part of the decline of serial killers is due possible victims becoming more aware.

    I was born in 1951 but my mother was a true crime buff. She had books about various serial killers of the past (they did exist in the entire 20th century, and the first widely studied case, Jack the Ripper, dates to the late 19th century).

    So she warned me very carefully from a young age. And I read the books myself as a teenager.

    So I was more aware than average due to this background. But it didn’t long after the explosion in cases for others to become more aware.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Charlotte, @Sam Hildebrand

    There’s a really aberrant episode in Ray Bradbury’s Dandelion Wine (1957) where there is a kind of serial killer called “The Lonely One,” and the treatment is that not only are the women aware but some are too aware and making false identifications. And it wasn’t frequently discussed but there are references to child molestation from mid-century, in the second segment of the Jack Webb Dragnet pilot/movie, Joseph Heller’s Catch-22, and that educational cartoon about the blonde twins who are approached by about twenty molesters in the space of five minutes. Wasn’t there enormous popular awareness about Jack the Ripper?

    • Replies: @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    I’m not familiar with Ray Bradbury or Jack Webb.

    Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.

    The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.

    The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @peterike, @AceDeuce

  34. @Wade Hampton
    Forgive my being off topic, but I'm watching the Warriors close out Dallas while reenacting the Yugoslav wars with Serbs Nemanja Bielica and Luka Doncic on the floor. The Warriors faced another Serb Nikola Jokic playing for the Nuggets against the Warriors in the first round. Doncic and Jokic are both first team all-NBA.

    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @duncsbaby

    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).

    The number of American Whites in the NBA is slightly higher than the number of Euro/SA/Aussie Whites fwiw.

  35. @Wade Hampton
    Forgive my being off topic, but I'm watching the Warriors close out Dallas while reenacting the Yugoslav wars with Serbs Nemanja Bielica and Luka Doncic on the floor. The Warriors faced another Serb Nikola Jokic playing for the Nuggets against the Warriors in the first round. Doncic and Jokic are both first team all-NBA.

    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @duncsbaby

    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).

    Steve has actually addressed this phenomenon before. He theorized that tall athletic white kids are groomed to be pitchers nowadays because there’s more likelihood of success in baseball. I’m paraphrasing of course from memory, Steve may be able to set you straight, if he’s interested.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @duncsbaby

    The most successful white North American NBA players tend to be from mostly white areas like the Pacific Northwest or British Columbia.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @duncsbaby

    One theory is that the discrepancy in puberty plays a big role. Black kids hit puberty earlier so white kids playing black kids in high school will not do as well as white kids who get to play only white kids, as in Europe or the Pacific Northwest.

  36. If Perot had NOT got into the 1992 race, would Bush have been able to edge out Clinton even with the economy perceived as being in the toilet? Did Perot change history by jumping in and splitting mostly the likely-Republican vote, and so deny the Republicans a fourth consecutive presidential victory that would have led to their Reagan-era surge continuing at full-bore all all through the 1990s? Would the 1994 Republican congressional landslide have still happened under a second Bush term?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Sam Malone

    I don't believe in the magic power of third candidates to derail every single election. TR is a very obvious self-explanatory exception. He had not only been president but the most popular president in memory. Of course he would throw everything off. But Perot and Nader were candidates interesting to voters who otherwise would not have voted. The average Nader voter thought that there was no meaningful difference between Bush and Gore, and was vindicated in Bush versus Kerry, when there was even less difference and Kerry couldn't get seagulls to notice his press conferences.

    , @Stan Adams
    @Sam Malone

    Perot cost Bush the ‘92 election, yes. Virtually all of his support came from disaffected Republicans. Clinton won the presidency with the same percentage that Dukakis racked up in 1988.

    Even in ‘96, Perot drew enough of a share to deny Clinton an outright majority.

    The GOP landslide in ‘94 was a direct repudiation of Clinton’s policies, so, no, it wouldn’t have happened if 41 had won a second term.

    The interesting question is, would Dan Quayle have had a serious shot at the nomination in ‘96? Probably not, but stranger things have happened.

  37. @duncsbaby
    @Wade Hampton


    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).
     
    Steve has actually addressed this phenomenon before. He theorized that tall athletic white kids are groomed to be pitchers nowadays because there's more likelihood of success in baseball. I'm paraphrasing of course from memory, Steve may be able to set you straight, if he's interested.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Peter Akuleyev

    The most successful white North American NBA players tend to be from mostly white areas like the Pacific Northwest or British Columbia.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    The most successful white North American NBA players tend to be from mostly white areas like the Pacific Northwest or British Columbia.
     
    They feel safer in the locker room!


    Oh, and British Columbia is the Pacific Northwest:


    https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6439891/Screen_Shot_2016-05-04_at_6.50.43_PM.0.png

    Replies: @Danindc

  38. call me a sociopath, but I like all these mass shootings, especially school shootings…i mean, yeah, it’s tragic and all for people, especially kids, to lose their lives, but in the big picture, these shootings are hardly a blip on all the other deaths that happen every day due to aging, disease, car wrecks etc…

    and the school shootings keep things lively, interesting…I deserve to be entertained…and they are are good entertainment….

    plus, these shootings are educational…watching all the first amendment auditor videos on youtube has shown me that the cops are typically low IQ types with a massive ego gratification and dominance complex who can turn murderous in a second if you do not subordinate yourself to them….and these shootings are a good example of how flawed and worthless cops really are….not only this shooting, but the pulse, parkland and columbine shootings all showed cops for the cowards they are…the people are starting to catch on…

  39. Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, as a fan, I’m cautioning you to not get all caught up with serial killer hunting.
    It will make you weird.

    • Replies: @Onebelowall
    @Anonymous

    It's amazing that Richard Grieco is pretty much forgotten, but he rivaled Depp in popularity at the time:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzDZpsS2Nds

  40. @duncsbaby
    @Wade Hampton


    It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).
     
    Steve has actually addressed this phenomenon before. He theorized that tall athletic white kids are groomed to be pitchers nowadays because there's more likelihood of success in baseball. I'm paraphrasing of course from memory, Steve may be able to set you straight, if he's interested.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Peter Akuleyev

    One theory is that the discrepancy in puberty plays a big role. Black kids hit puberty earlier so white kids playing black kids in high school will not do as well as white kids who get to play only white kids, as in Europe or the Pacific Northwest.

  41. @stari_momak
    Gerald Ford....I mean, why would someone try to assassinate Gerald Ford?

    Aside: I don't know why but whenever the name Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme comes up I picture Lorraine Newman from the original Saturday Night Live case.

    Replies: @Anon, @SunBakedSuburb

    I believe Fromme along with her parents and siblings were a kind of traveling singing cowboy group in the 50s. I think they enjoyed some popularity at that time. What a trajectory.

  42. @The Anti-Gnostic
    How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco

    The best thing is to go in time ….

    https://cloudflare-ipfs.com/ipfs/bafykbzaceciej3dg4jezdnmwusb7mmugqijw26ogmwnwweclzidgiwhp64ako?filename=Derek%20Humphry%20-%20Final%20Exit%20Digital%20Edition%20%282009%29.pdf

    One person who challenged us all on this issue was Janet Adkins, of Portland, Oregon, when she took her life with the help of Dr. Jack Kevorkian in Michigan in 1990.
    She waited only a year until the first bad symptoms of Alzheimer’s began to show, notably memory loss. She was widely criticized by many health professionals for taking
    her life when in the same week she had played tennis. They argued that she still had much quality of life remaining.

    There was no question that she was still physically well, but her mind had deteriorated so badly that she could not keep the tennis score. To Janet, her intellectual faculties
    were more important than bodily well-being and the decision on the quality-of-life issues was hers alone to make.
    Janet, and many other victims of the same disease, are worried about what point their mental deterioration will become so serious that they are unable to think and act for
    themselves and also become legally an “incompetent.” At a certain point in the disease—perhaps after two to five years, but there is no certainty—the patient’s intellectual
    deterioration becomes so serious that personal control is lost and another ten to fifteen years of illness follows. At that point, it is too late for voluntary euthanasia!

    The decision of Janet Adkins to die at the time she did probably surprised me less than anybody, because I hear of this happening a great deal in unreported cases. Most of
    these exits are as a result of Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, ALS, or degenerative old age. I also knew that Janet was a member of a right-to-die group even before the onset of her illness and that she had been making inquiries about self-deliverance before going to Dr. Kevorkian. There are other forms of senility, of course, and the effect of slight strokes also advises people that their life is drawing to a close.

    When will the final stroke come? It could be years away, which might mean a nursing home for the final years. Many people have seen their parents through a grim deathwatch and do not wish to repeat it for themselves. It is not uncommon for such people to look back on their lives, count their blessings, and proceed to end their existence. The tragedy is that if there were lawful, planned medical euthanasia available they could have lived many months longer. But so long as America remains in the “do-it-yourself” mode, these early suicides are bound to continue.

  43. @duncsbaby
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Dude, we are trying to have a light and airy conversation about assassination attempts and death threats here. Don't be such a downer!

    Sorry to hear about Ray Liotta. I remember when he was an up and comer. He was very, very good in Goodfellas. His performance is overlooked because of Joe Pesci's and Martin Scorsese's pyrotechnic directing, but it held the movie together. RIP, indeed.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    LOL. Good day to you as well sir!

    Yes, it’s bad about Ray; 67 is too young to go.

    My pop should have made it to 100 with his excellent physical fitness but Alzheimer’s got him in his 70’s. A failing GI tract killed him before he would have forgotten who we were so thank God for small favors. Bruce Willis’s family is in for a rough ride.

  44. 99.99 % of death threats are benign.

  45. @The Anti-Gnostic
    How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco

    Ray Lipton was a 3 pack a day guy and in poor health for at least 10 years

    • Replies: @Mike Tre
    @Mike Tre

    Liotta - autocorrect f'd me again.

  46. Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match. It more or less ended her career.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Hodag


    Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match. It more or less ended her career.
     
    What tennis-relevant injuries did she suffer?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Hodag


    Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles#1993_stabbing_attack :

    Additionally, American band Majesty Crush paid tribute with "Seles" from the 1993 album Love-15.
     
    If you scroll/click upthread, you can play the cited song:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-crazy-years-2/#comment-5362560 (#9)
  47. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @usNthem

    Yes. Insh'allah if my mind goes before my body I have enough marbles to recognize that time when it comes, but I don't think that's how it works out.

    Replies: @usNthem

    Unfortunately true.

  48. jay says:
    @Wade Hampton
    Institutionalize the insane. This problem solved along with homelessness.

    This plus actually enforcing the law in the inner cities begins to make them livable again.

    Replies: @jay

    All murder by either Men or Women should result in execution. Men make up 89% of murderers and women 11%

    “With the exception of Oklahoma, Texas and Florida, 50% of the population, who commit 11% of all murders, are virtually exempt from actual execution it would seem, this being the female half of society. Just eleven women have been executed between 1984 and 2011, of whom two were consensual – Christina Riggs in Arkansas and Aileen Wournoss in Florida.”

    http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/deterrence.html

    No one should get away with murder. They need all to perish.

  49. @J.Ross
    @Frau Katze

    There's a really aberrant episode in Ray Bradbury's Dandelion Wine (1957) where there is a kind of serial killer called "The Lonely One," and the treatment is that not only are the women aware but some are too aware and making false identifications. And it wasn't frequently discussed but there are references to child molestation from mid-century, in the second segment of the Jack Webb Dragnet pilot/movie, Joseph Heller's Catch-22, and that educational cartoon about the blonde twins who are approached by about twenty molesters in the space of five minutes. Wasn't there enormous popular awareness about Jack the Ripper?

    Replies: @Frau Katze

    I’m not familiar with Ray Bradbury or Jack Webb.

    Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.

    The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.

    The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.
     
    It was quite safe in Europe long after the hippie era, though women were advised to bring a companion. German and British drivers were especially generous, Scandinavians the opposite.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @peterike
    @Frau Katze


    Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century.
     
    Seems like a good time to remind everyone that Jack the Ripper was a Polish Jewish immigrant. One more reason to never allow immigrants into your country. Lots and lots of stories about the "Polish immigrant," very few mentioning he was also Jewish.

    https://www.history.com/news/has-jack-the-rippers-identity-been-revealed
    , @AceDeuce
    @Frau Katze

    People hitchhiked during the "hippy era" because a great many people hitchhiked, with minimal problems, BEFORE the "hippy era". The "hippy era" is when it all started to go bad.

  50. @Alden
    @Reg Cæsar

    I remember a picture of Keith and his father in father’s 80th birthday. Father looked younger.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I remember a picture of Keith and his father in father’s 80th birthday. Father looked younger.

    Edgar Winter was 34 months younger than brother Johnny, but looked 34 years younger. Scientology is easier on the body than heroin.

  51. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    I’m not familiar with Ray Bradbury or Jack Webb.

    Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.

    The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.

    The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @peterike, @AceDeuce

    It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.

    It was quite safe in Europe long after the hippie era, though women were advised to bring a companion. German and British drivers were especially generous, Scandinavians the opposite.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Reg Cæsar

    Hitchhiking was a normal practice, respected by the authorities, especially for students on holiday, in the Communist world. There are still scenes of "normal" hitchhiking in modern Cuban movies. Of course, that's out of poverty. Not sure how well that applies in no-trust China.

  52. @HammerJack
    @Dennis Dale

    Death threats are now status symbols, so it's no surprise that people iso status will make them up if necessary. In a related story, Amber Heard is claiming—on the stand—that people are threatening to microwave her baby, just because she tried to stand up for battered women everywhere.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    vox.com told me that Amber Heard is a victim, so obviously she is good and Johnny is bad. It’s literally science, chud.

  53. The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.

    The parole board just recommended granting Patricia Krenwinkle’s application. Not yet a done deal.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @prosa123

    "The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso [sic] about the Manson case created some needed realism."

    No, quite the opposite.

  54. @Chris Mallory
    Most recent threats against politicians are at their root instigated by the FBI.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    The FBI is a domestic intelligence/political police organization that serves the dominant ideology in DC. At this point it is perhaps the most dangerous federal bureaucracy to the life of the average citizen. Send its legitimate law enforcement functions back to the states along with required funding. What remains needs to be dissolved and investigated by investigative entities unconnected to Main Justice (DOJ suffers from the same disease).

  55. @prosa123
    The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.


    The parole board just recommended granting Patricia Krenwinkle's application. Not yet a done deal.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso [sic] about the Manson case created some needed realism.”

    No, quite the opposite.

    • Agree: Harry Baldwin
  56. @The Anti-Gnostic
    How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.

    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?

    Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.

    Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.

    COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco

    They’ll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it’s going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    No it won’t. Birth cohorts increased in size from 1936 to 1957, then began to decline. About 30% of those people are already deceased and all of them are past the median retirement age.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Art Deco

    But what about all the pyramid schemes erected on Boomer credulity? Surely importing large numbers of violent illiterates will keep the pyramid schemes going?

  57. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    I’m not familiar with Ray Bradbury or Jack Webb.

    Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.

    The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.

    The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @peterike, @AceDeuce

    Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century.

    Seems like a good time to remind everyone that Jack the Ripper was a Polish Jewish immigrant. One more reason to never allow immigrants into your country. Lots and lots of stories about the “Polish immigrant,” very few mentioning he was also Jewish.

    https://www.history.com/news/has-jack-the-rippers-identity-been-revealed

  58. @Ron Mexico
    I seem to remember a MNF where Tom Landry was informed of a threat against his life. Came back out to coach with a bullet proof vest underneath his suit.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Danindc

    Monday Night Football was where many Americans (including my newsroom) got the news about Lennon, via Howard Cosell

  59. @stari_momak
    Gerald Ford....I mean, why would someone try to assassinate Gerald Ford?

    Aside: I don't know why but whenever the name Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme comes up I picture Lorraine Newman from the original Saturday Night Live case.

    Replies: @Anon, @SunBakedSuburb

    “… why would someone try to assassinate Gerald Ford?”

    Lynette Fromme, unwitting operative in the Manson Family psyop, attempted to kill Ford on the state capitol grounds in Sacramento, September 5, 1975. A few days later, on September 22, Sara Jane Moore, well known to the Secret Service as an unstable individual on psychotropic drugs, got very close to Ford in San Francisco and managed to fire off a couple of rounds from a .44 before being subdued.

    Who was President Ford’s VP? Nelson Rockefeller. That’s why.

    • Replies: @Alden
    @SunBakedSuburb

    Oh thanks. I forgot that Rockefeller would have become President had Ford been killed. Turns out the Rockefeller’s have been far more successful operating behind the scenes.

    San Francisco N California was insane at the time. Perfect place for an assassination.

  60. @Mr. Anon

    Hubert Green? Did somebody contemplate becoming the Lee Harvey Oswald of golf fans by assassinating Hubert Green?
     
    He was just a patsy. It was a second shooter.

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1384/0075/articles/Rokform_-_Shooter-19_1000x.jpg?v=1624176703

    On a grassy knoll.

    https://www.morristourism.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Knoll-Country-Club-229-Kent-HR.jpg

    By the way, why aren't there more pro-golfers named "Green"?

    Replies: @Known Fact

    By the way, why aren’t there more pro-golfers named “Green”?

    Or Irons. Or Woods — oh wait

    • Replies: @dearieme
    @Known Fact

    Plenty are called Mashie-Niblick after all.

  61. @Mike Tre
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Ray Lipton was a 3 pack a day guy and in poor health for at least 10 years

    Replies: @Mike Tre

    Liotta – autocorrect f’d me again.

  62. @J.Ross
    If you want to disprove US security service involvement then the Red Brigade probably isn't the best example.

    Replies: @Bill Jones

    I agree.
    How soon they forget. It must be so frustrating seeing your best work go unacknowledged.

    The CIA isn’t getting nearly enough credit for the Operation Gladio links to the Uke’s Banderites.

  63. @Reg Cæsar
    @Frau Katze


    It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.
     
    It was quite safe in Europe long after the hippie era, though women were advised to bring a companion. German and British drivers were especially generous, Scandinavians the opposite.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Hitchhiking was a normal practice, respected by the authorities, especially for students on holiday, in the Communist world. There are still scenes of “normal” hitchhiking in modern Cuban movies. Of course, that’s out of poverty. Not sure how well that applies in no-trust China.

  64. @Art Deco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    They’ll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it’s going to seem like the whole world is dying.

    No it won't. Birth cohorts increased in size from 1936 to 1957, then began to decline. About 30% of those people are already deceased and all of them are past the median retirement age.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    But what about all the pyramid schemes erected on Boomer credulity? Surely importing large numbers of violent illiterates will keep the pyramid schemes going?

  65. Bjorn Borg and BB King and Boris Becker.

    Better not forget the Killer B’s of the 1982 Miami Dolphins.

    Led by Kim Bokamper and the Blackwoods — Glenn and Lyle.

    Bob Baumhower is another BB for the Killer B’s of the Miami Dolphins.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Charles Pewitt

    Lyle and Glenn both started at safety in Super Bowl 17. Although it was one of the worst super bowl teams ever…

  66. @Sam Malone
    If Perot had NOT got into the 1992 race, would Bush have been able to edge out Clinton even with the economy perceived as being in the toilet? Did Perot change history by jumping in and splitting mostly the likely-Republican vote, and so deny the Republicans a fourth consecutive presidential victory that would have led to their Reagan-era surge continuing at full-bore all all through the 1990s? Would the 1994 Republican congressional landslide have still happened under a second Bush term?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Stan Adams

    I don’t believe in the magic power of third candidates to derail every single election. TR is a very obvious self-explanatory exception. He had not only been president but the most popular president in memory. Of course he would throw everything off. But Perot and Nader were candidates interesting to voters who otherwise would not have voted. The average Nader voter thought that there was no meaningful difference between Bush and Gore, and was vindicated in Bush versus Kerry, when there was even less difference and Kerry couldn’t get seagulls to notice his press conferences.

  67. @Steve Sailer
    @duncsbaby

    The most successful white North American NBA players tend to be from mostly white areas like the Pacific Northwest or British Columbia.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The most successful white North American NBA players tend to be from mostly white areas like the Pacific Northwest or British Columbia.

    They feel safer in the locker room!

    Oh, and British Columbia is the Pacific Northwest:

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Reg Cæsar

    Lots of games esp with aau ball. Probably gets old pretending to love gangsta rap.

  68. @Bragadocious
    You should really pay attention to your hometown media.

    Former Unz laughingstock and current LA Times token bean Gustavo Arellano: “a Latino had never been the killer in any of … the 10 worst mass shootings — until Ramos.”

    I guess he's never heard of Angel Resendiz, Mexican serial killer (official body count: 23). Of course what Arellano is doing is playing word games. Latinos haven't been spree shooters typically, so what is there to complain about? Oh nothing, except railroad hobos with pickaxes.

    Plus all this went down in the 1990s, and who remembers that?

    And this from Arellano:

    “The tragedy in Uvalde disproves what white supremacists say about Latinos and other minorities. We’re not unassimilable; we all become part of the United States.”

    Nice deflection there. Now tell us about Mexican gun violence. Of course, being a proud bean, I'm sure he blames Mexican gun violence on American weapons being trafficked across the border to innocent people with no agency. It's what they all do.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    This Gustavo Arellano should also note the “Hispanic” true mass murder method of choice, if we could say such a thing about such infrequent crimes in the US, is arson, see the Dupont Plaza Hotel arson and the the Happy Land fire which respectively killed 96-98 and 87 people. As far as criminal mass murder in the US, I’m not sure there’s any with higher death tolls, depending on how you score Muslim terrorist attacks.

  69. @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    So true....the boomers freaked out when 3.2 million Americans died in 2020, yet 3.4 million died in 2021 and 2022 will be another record of deaths as Americans continue to die in record numbers. excess deaths were higher in 2021 than 2020 and will be higher again in 2022.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    When only 2.9 million people died in 2019, “the Boomers” and lots of people outside their generation like my parents and myself were right to “freak out” over the worst pandemic since 1918-9. That’s 530K extra deaths before you you subtract the 50-80K per AnotherDad for annual increases due to an aging population. As extensively discussed on iSteve there’s good reasons a full year of the pandemic killed even more people.

    Afraid those of you maliciously waiting for us vaxxed to all drop dead are still going to be disappointed, after the aftermath of Omicron wave started ending in March the all cause excess deaths also dropped dramatically and pretty quickly to about normal (look here, noting that it takes up to eight weeks or more for death certificates to make it to the CDC and get tallied, so the last few weeks are under counts).

  70. @Reg Cæsar
    @The Anti-Gnostic


    Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
     
    Richards did most of his aging 50 years ago, and has been clean for decades. Watts engaged in a long-term deleterious activity that his bandmates didn't--



    ...sitting.

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210824124706-03-charlie-watts-rolling-stones-lead-image-exlarge-169.jpg


    Still, Ringo and Dave Clark have outlived their colleagues. Carmine Appice is still with Vanilla Fudge, a band whose members' metabolisms are as slow as their songs.

    Replies: @Alden, @duncsbaby

    It’s all just a big crap shoot, all the Ramones’ drummers outlived Joey, Johnny, & Dee Dee. Hell, even Topper Headon is still alive and he was a smack junkie. Bill Kreutzman and Mickey Hart of the Dead are still among the living. Although I do see that Alan White expired yesterday, maybe it was just his time.

    Favorite underrated Yes album was Drama, when Jon Anderson left the band and Buggles joined up. I’m pretty sure the critics hated it. This is a great song though. RIP Alan White.

  71. @Known Fact
    @Mr. Anon


    By the way, why aren’t there more pro-golfers named “Green”?
     
    Or Irons. Or Woods -- oh wait

    Replies: @dearieme

    Plenty are called Mashie-Niblick after all.

  72. @SunBakedSuburb
    @stari_momak

    "... why would someone try to assassinate Gerald Ford?"

    Lynette Fromme, unwitting operative in the Manson Family psyop, attempted to kill Ford on the state capitol grounds in Sacramento, September 5, 1975. A few days later, on September 22, Sara Jane Moore, well known to the Secret Service as an unstable individual on psychotropic drugs, got very close to Ford in San Francisco and managed to fire off a couple of rounds from a .44 before being subdued.

    Who was President Ford's VP? Nelson Rockefeller. That's why.

    Replies: @Alden

    Oh thanks. I forgot that Rockefeller would have become President had Ford been killed. Turns out the Rockefeller’s have been far more successful operating behind the scenes.

    San Francisco N California was insane at the time. Perfect place for an assassination.

  73. @Ron Mexico
    I seem to remember a MNF where Tom Landry was informed of a threat against his life. Came back out to coach with a bullet proof vest underneath his suit.

    Replies: @Known Fact, @Danindc

    Would’ve been funny if he was also wearing helmet

  74. @Charles Pewitt
    Bjorn Borg and BB King and Boris Becker.

    Better not forget the Killer B's of the 1982 Miami Dolphins.

    Led by Kim Bokamper and the Blackwoods -- Glenn and Lyle.

    Bob Baumhower is another BB for the Killer B's of the Miami Dolphins.

    https://twitter.com/80sFootballCard/status/1264704378189099012?s=20&t=8vVd-UOjXKMOie69E1Knwg

    Replies: @Danindc

    Lyle and Glenn both started at safety in Super Bowl 17. Although it was one of the worst super bowl teams ever…

  75. @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    The most successful white North American NBA players tend to be from mostly white areas like the Pacific Northwest or British Columbia.
     
    They feel safer in the locker room!


    Oh, and British Columbia is the Pacific Northwest:


    https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6439891/Screen_Shot_2016-05-04_at_6.50.43_PM.0.png

    Replies: @Danindc

    Lots of games esp with aau ball. Probably gets old pretending to love gangsta rap.

  76. @Sam Malone
    If Perot had NOT got into the 1992 race, would Bush have been able to edge out Clinton even with the economy perceived as being in the toilet? Did Perot change history by jumping in and splitting mostly the likely-Republican vote, and so deny the Republicans a fourth consecutive presidential victory that would have led to their Reagan-era surge continuing at full-bore all all through the 1990s? Would the 1994 Republican congressional landslide have still happened under a second Bush term?

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Stan Adams

    Perot cost Bush the ‘92 election, yes. Virtually all of his support came from disaffected Republicans. Clinton won the presidency with the same percentage that Dukakis racked up in 1988.

    Even in ‘96, Perot drew enough of a share to deny Clinton an outright majority.

    The GOP landslide in ‘94 was a direct repudiation of Clinton’s policies, so, no, it wouldn’t have happened if 41 had won a second term.

    The interesting question is, would Dan Quayle have had a serious shot at the nomination in ‘96? Probably not, but stranger things have happened.

  77. OT: Movie reviews.

    1) Downton Abbey: Clever plot with not too many ! moments. You will like it if you liked the series. Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park.

    2) Top Gun: Better than I thought it would be. Plot twists that I didn’t see coming. Jennifer Connelly is not Kelly McGillis but looks great. They had huge cooperation from the navy and it shows. Tom Cruise does a good job of playing Tom Cruise and does not hog the screen.

    Bottom line is that both are 2 hours of B+ entertainment with almost no Woke bs.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Don Bob

    "Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park."

    I've always liked Maggie Smith but didn't realize she's still active. She won her Oscar, playing an aging schoolteacher in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie over a half century ago.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Bill Jones

  78. Anonymous[418] • Disclaimer says:

    Attached was a photo, widely published at the time, of Borg posing in Israeli army uniform during a visit to the Middle East last fall.

    Pathetic.

  79. Anonymous[418] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hodag
    Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match. It more or less ended her career.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match. It more or less ended her career.

    What tennis-relevant injuries did she suffer?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    Stabbing.

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Anonymous


    What tennis-relevant injuries did she suffer?
     
    Ever hear of tennis elbow? This was even worse: tennis puncture.
  80. @Anonymous
    @Hodag


    Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match. It more or less ended her career.
     
    What tennis-relevant injuries did she suffer?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Stabbing.

  81. @Jim Don Bob
    OT: Movie reviews.

    1) Downton Abbey: Clever plot with not too many ! moments. You will like it if you liked the series. Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park.

    2) Top Gun: Better than I thought it would be. Plot twists that I didn't see coming. Jennifer Connelly is not Kelly McGillis but looks great. They had huge cooperation from the navy and it shows. Tom Cruise does a good job of playing Tom Cruise and does not hog the screen.

    Bottom line is that both are 2 hours of B+ entertainment with almost no Woke bs.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park.”

    I’ve always liked Maggie Smith but didn’t realize she’s still active. She won her Oscar, playing an aging schoolteacher in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie over a half century ago.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @Steve Sailer

    Maggie Smith has a son named Toby Stephens; he was in a Bond movie twenty years ago.

    He knows how to read his lines just like the sons of sports announcers just know how to call a game.

    https://twitter.com/ClassicMovieHub/status/1415525288671338498?s=20&t=7tT4VtxS_UJ7kObdvPszMw

    , @Bill Jones
    @Steve Sailer

    I used to see her on the stage in London, by my count and to my surprise, 45 years ago.
    She played, shall we say, mature women.

  82. @Frau Katze
    I wonder if part of the decline of serial killers is due possible victims becoming more aware.

    I was born in 1951 but my mother was a true crime buff. She had books about various serial killers of the past (they did exist in the entire 20th century, and the first widely studied case, Jack the Ripper, dates to the late 19th century).

    So she warned me very carefully from a young age. And I read the books myself as a teenager.

    So I was more aware than average due to this background. But it didn’t long after the explosion in cases for others to become more aware.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Charlotte, @Sam Hildebrand

    Women certainly learned not to hitchhike and so forth. Even respectable young women hitchhiked in the forties. Haven’t some of the more recent serial killers either focused on prostitutes or attacked victims in their homes? I wonder if the in-your-face violence of movies like Rambo didn’t make mowing people down seem more glamorous than furtive, solitary killing to a certain kind of mind. And once one person does it in a high-profile way, there’s a sort of cultural template to follow.

  83. @Frau Katze
    @J.Ross

    I’m not familiar with Ray Bradbury or Jack Webb.

    Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.

    The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.

    The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @peterike, @AceDeuce

    People hitchhiked during the “hippy era” because a great many people hitchhiked, with minimal problems, BEFORE the “hippy era”. The “hippy era” is when it all started to go bad.

  84. @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Don Bob

    "Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park."

    I've always liked Maggie Smith but didn't realize she's still active. She won her Oscar, playing an aging schoolteacher in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie over a half century ago.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Bill Jones

    Maggie Smith has a son named Toby Stephens; he was in a Bond movie twenty years ago.

    He knows how to read his lines just like the sons of sports announcers just know how to call a game.

  85. @Hodag
    Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match. It more or less ended her career.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles#1993_stabbing_attack :

    Additionally, American band Majesty Crush paid tribute with “Seles” from the 1993 album Love-15.

    If you scroll/click upthread, you can play the cited song:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-crazy-years-2/#comment-5362560 (#9)

  86. @Anonymous
    @Hodag


    Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match. It more or less ended her career.
     
    What tennis-relevant injuries did she suffer?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    What tennis-relevant injuries did she suffer?

    Ever hear of tennis elbow? This was even worse: tennis puncture.

  87. @Anonymous
    Steve, as a fan, I’m cautioning you to not get all caught up with serial killer hunting.
    It will make you weird.

    https://youtu.be/KjvAhcQ0rlo

    Replies: @Onebelowall

    It’s amazing that Richard Grieco is pretty much forgotten, but he rivaled Depp in popularity at the time:

  88. @Frau Katze
    I wonder if part of the decline of serial killers is due possible victims becoming more aware.

    I was born in 1951 but my mother was a true crime buff. She had books about various serial killers of the past (they did exist in the entire 20th century, and the first widely studied case, Jack the Ripper, dates to the late 19th century).

    So she warned me very carefully from a young age. And I read the books myself as a teenager.

    So I was more aware than average due to this background. But it didn’t long after the explosion in cases for others to become more aware.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Charlotte, @Sam Hildebrand

    “I wonder if part of the decline of serial killers is due possible victims becoming more aware.”

    I suspect it has more to do with current technology. Serial killers get caught before they kill enough to be cosidered serial killers. How many times does the average person end up on video every time they leave their home? Several hundred times. Then there is DNA testing, cell phone tracking, OnStar, IP address history, satellite images. Law enforcement has the tools to solve most crimes, if they wanted to.

  89. @Steve Sailer
    @Jim Don Bob

    "Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park."

    I've always liked Maggie Smith but didn't realize she's still active. She won her Oscar, playing an aging schoolteacher in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie over a half century ago.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @Bill Jones

    I used to see her on the stage in London, by my count and to my surprise, 45 years ago.
    She played, shall we say, mature women.

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