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Yesterday, I pointed out that while mass killing shootings are much more common today than a half-century ago, serial killers have been in decline. Taxi Driver-style assassinations and threats upon politicians and celebrities are also down:
Swedish tennis star Bjorn Borg also received death threats. From the Washington Post in 1979:
By Ron Rosen, March 2, 1979
Bjorn Borg’s cool has been disrupted by Swedish media treatment of a threat on his life, attributed to the Italian terrorist gang that murdered Italy’s President Aldo Moro….
Borg, tennis’ No. 1, doesn’t know whether the threat is a hoax, but scratched a match in Goteborg next weekend with John McEnroe and said he won’t play in his homeland this year. Borg received a similar threat, believed to have been by telephone from Stockholm, when in Milan in October; withdrew from competition there and had received no further warnings until now — when he, Stockholm police, Royal Tennis Club and Swedish news outlets received a letter mailed in Stockholm saying “Red Brigade — death sentence — Bjorn Borg.” Attached was a photo, widely published at the time, of Borg posing in Israeli army uniform during a visit to the Middle East last fall.
Borg also received two death threats at the US Open in 1981.
From USA Today’s obituary for golfer Hubert Green:
Hubert Green, who overcame death threat to win ’77 U.S. Open, dies at 71
Associated Press
June 20, 2018 2:42 pm ETHall of Fame golfer Hubert Green, who won a U.S. Open playing portions of the final round despite a threat against his life, has died. He was 71. …
Green held a one-stroke lead at Southern Hills in Tulsa, Oklahoma, when he completed the 14th hole of the final round of the U.S. Open. He then was notified by tournament officials they had received a threat saying he would be shot when he reached the 15th green.
Given the choice to clear the course of fans or return the following day, Green played on and captured his first major by one stroke, even making birdie at the 16th hole.
Hubert Green? Did somebody contemplate becoming the Lee Harvey Oswald of golf fans by assassinating Hubert Green?
Or maybe he’d bet his house on whoever was in second place and hoped to rattle Hubie?
Anyway, Green played on and won.
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Most recent threats against politicians are at their root instigated by the FBI.
What is the stress of a death threat compared to being in the lead at the U. S. Open on Day 4 as you stand in the first tee box? It might have barely registered.
Who knew Huber Green could elicit such fury?
If you want to disprove US security service involvement then the Red Brigade probably isn’t the best example.
How soon they forget. It must be so frustrating seeing your best work go unacknowledged.
The CIA isn't getting nearly enough credit for the Operation Gladio links to the Uke's Banderites.
FBI voice: “Oh great, we screwed that one up, gonna hafta do one more to make up for it.” People are talking about la policia de Uvalde not only not doing anything about an active shooter, but possibly entering the school — not to do their job, but to rescue their own kids, and leave the other kids there. Understandable but also unbecoming. So now there’s a media-noticed shooting in an Ohio Wal-Mart. Lindsay Graham and a few other scumbags currently working with Democrats to infringe rights.
And apparently we’re awash in phony death threats against political actors. Every time a leftie wades into controversy or God forbids gets “cancelled
–like the Misinformation Maven what’s-her-name– it’s all about the many, many death threats they’ve received. Tucker Carlson probably gets them daily.
But when’s the last time someone acted on them? Aside from Chapelle’s would-be tackler, I’m hard-pressed to recall an assault on a celebrity or politician.
That guy who shot Scalise at the softball game–I wonder if he made threats first. Probably not.
How about Ray Liotta dead at age 67 wtf.
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that “aphasia” means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State’s magic bug juice. They’ll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it’s going to seem like the whole world is dying.
Aphasia/dysphasia = can't speak
Aphagia/dysphagia = can't swallowApparently aphasia websites field this mixup often enough to require an explanation page:
https://www.aphasia.org/aphasia-resources/dysphagia/The prognosis for either is...well, I guess an anti-gnostic wouldn't be interested.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
...sitting.
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Still, Ringo and Dave Clark have outlived their colleagues. Carmine Appice is still with Vanilla Fudge, a band whose members' metabolisms are as slow as their songs.Replies: @Alden, @duncsbaby
Sorry to hear about Ray Liotta. I remember when he was an up and comer. He was very, very good in Goodfellas. His performance is overlooked because of Joe Pesci's and Martin Scorsese's pyrotechnic directing, but it held the movie together. RIP, indeed.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
She waited only a year until the first bad symptoms of Alzheimer’s began to show, notably memory loss. She was widely criticized by many health professionals for taking
her life when in the same week she had played tennis. They argued that she still had much quality of life remaining.There was no question that she was still physically well, but her mind had deteriorated so badly that she could not keep the tennis score. To Janet, her intellectual faculties
were more important than bodily well-being and the decision on the quality-of-life issues was hers alone to make.
Janet, and many other victims of the same disease, are worried about what point their mental deterioration will become so serious that they are unable to think and act for
themselves and also become legally an “incompetent.” At a certain point in the disease—perhaps after two to five years, but there is no certainty—the patient’s intellectual
deterioration becomes so serious that personal control is lost and another ten to fifteen years of illness follows. At that point, it is too late for voluntary euthanasia!The decision of Janet Adkins to die at the time she did probably surprised me less than anybody, because I hear of this happening a great deal in unreported cases. Most of
these exits are as a result of Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, ALS, or degenerative old age. I also knew that Janet was a member of a right-to-die group even before the onset of her illness and that she had been making inquiries about self-deliverance before going to Dr. Kevorkian. There are other forms of senility, of course, and the effect of slight strokes also advises people that their life is drawing to a close. When will the final stroke come? It could be years away, which might mean a nursing home for the final years. Many people have seen their parents through a grim deathwatch and do not wish to repeat it for themselves. It is not uncommon for such people to look back on their lives, count their blessings, and proceed to end their existence. The tragedy is that if there were lawful, planned medical euthanasia available they could have lived many months longer. But so long as America remains in the “do-it-yourself” mode, these early suicides are bound to continue.
No it won't. Birth cohorts increased in size from 1936 to 1957, then began to decline. About 30% of those people are already deceased and all of them are past the median retirement age.Replies: @J.Ross
You should really pay attention to your hometown media.
Former Unz laughingstock and current LA Times token bean Gustavo Arellano: “a Latino had never been the killer in any of … the 10 worst mass shootings — until Ramos.”
I guess he’s never heard of Angel Resendiz, Mexican serial killer (official body count: 23). Of course what Arellano is doing is playing word games. Latinos haven’t been spree shooters typically, so what is there to complain about? Oh nothing, except railroad hobos with pickaxes.
Plus all this went down in the 1990s, and who remembers that?
And this from Arellano:
“The tragedy in Uvalde disproves what white supremacists say about Latinos and other minorities. We’re not unassimilable; we all become part of the United States.”
Nice deflection there. Now tell us about Mexican gun violence. Of course, being a proud bean, I’m sure he blames Mexican gun violence on American weapons being trafficked across the border to innocent people with no agency. It’s what they all do.
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco
So true….the boomers freaked out when 3.2 million Americans died in 2020, yet 3.4 million died in 2021 and 2022 will be another record of deaths as Americans continue to die in record numbers. excess deaths were higher in 2021 than 2020 and will be higher again in 2022.
Afraid those of you maliciously waiting for us vaxxed to all drop dead are still going to be disappointed, after the aftermath of Omicron wave started ending in March the all cause excess deaths also dropped dramatically and pretty quickly to about normal (look here, noting that it takes up to eight weeks or more for death certificates to make it to the CDC and get tallied, so the last few weeks are under counts).
I seem to remember a MNF where Tom Landry was informed of a threat against his life. Came back out to coach with a bullet proof vest underneath his suit.
A couple of relevant tracks from ’90s shoegaze band Majesty Crush for your consideration. I assumed the singer was White; I didn’t know the lead singer was a crazy tragic mulatto (‘GI father’, German mother?) until looking up the band for this comment.
Wikipedia:
LA Times identifies Stroughter as a “white male” :
David Stroughter, 1966-2017: A remembrance
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco
Aphasia, not likely. It’s either Alzheimer’s or dementia. If Bruce has enough marbles left, he should probably just head out to the forest or desert and wander off. No disagreement AG.
He was just a patsy. It was a second shooter.
On a grassy knoll.
By the way, why aren’t there more pro-golfers named “Green”?
Institutionalize the insane. This problem solved along with homelessness.
This plus actually enforcing the law in the inner cities begins to make them livable again.
"With the exception of Oklahoma, Texas and Florida, 50% of the population, who commit 11% of all murders, are virtually exempt from actual execution it would seem, this being the female half of society. Just eleven women have been executed between 1984 and 2011, of whom two were consensual – Christina Riggs in Arkansas and Aileen Wournoss in Florida."
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/deterrence.html
No one should get away with murder. They need all to perish.
Björn was right to worry. A few years later, his own prime minister, Olof Palme, was assassinated on a main drag in Stockholm.
Anyone know if he lived in nearby Hötorget Towers? That means “the Haymarket”, not the vibe the architecture emits:
Cue The Bob Newhart Show opening credits! Apparently Palme didn’t live there, not in 1986:
But Roland Huntford in The New Totalitarians noted that Palme and other high figures did indeed live in boring apartments in such pedestrian edifices.
DESTROYER OF CITIES.Replies: @Alden
Among the good which can come out of the Uvalde tragedy: will we now be able to discuss the harms of smoking cannabis?
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Forgive my being off topic, but I’m watching the Warriors close out Dallas while reenacting the Yugoslav wars with Serbs Nemanja Bielica and Luka Doncic on the floor. The Warriors faced another Serb Nikola Jokic playing for the Nuggets against the Warriors in the first round. Doncic and Jokic are both first team all-NBA.
It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).
The number of American Whites in the NBA is slightly higher than the number of Euro/SA/Aussie Whites fwiw.
Hopefully the Deep State will leave the golf course architects alone.
BTW, I know you started this off about serial killers, but if anyone thinks today’s times are less crazy than the 1960s or ’70s, he hasn’t read, well, YOUR own blog, for one.
--like the Misinformation Maven what's-her-name-- it's all about the many, many death threats they've received. Tucker Carlson probably gets them daily.
But when's the last time someone acted on them? Aside from Chapelle's would-be tackler, I'm hard-pressed to recall an assault on a celebrity or politician.That guy who shot Scalise at the softball game--I wonder if he made threats first. Probably not.Replies: @HammerJack
Death threats are now status symbols, so it’s no surprise that people iso status will make them up if necessary. In a related story, Amber Heard is claiming—on the stand—that people are threatening to microwave her baby, just because she tried to stand up for battered women everywhere.
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Cue The Bob Newhart Show opening credits! Apparently Palme didn't live there, not in 1986:But Roland Huntford in The New Totalitarians noted that Palme and other high figures did indeed live in boring apartments in such pedestrian edifices.Replies: @HammerJack
I AM MODERN ARCHITECTURE,
DESTROYER OF CITIES.
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco
That’s dysphagia.
Aphasia/dysphasia = can’t speak
Aphagia/dysphagia = can’t swallow
Apparently aphasia websites field this mixup often enough to require an explanation page:
https://www.aphasia.org/aphasia-resources/dysphagia/
The prognosis for either is…well, I guess an anti-gnostic wouldn’t be interested.
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco
Richards did most of his aging 50 years ago, and has been clean for decades. Watts engaged in a long-term deleterious activity that his bandmates didn’t–
…sitting.
Still, Ringo and Dave Clark have outlived their colleagues. Carmine Appice is still with Vanilla Fudge, a band whose members’ metabolisms are as slow as their songs.
Favorite underrated Yes album was Drama, when Jon Anderson left the band and Buggles joined up. I'm pretty sure the critics hated it. This is a great song though. RIP Alan White.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXhYsMEjsZ8
Lol exactly. Or the 18th tee with a 1 shot lead. Ask Mito Perriara. His worst swing in 10 years.
Who knew Huber Green could elicit such fury?
Aphasia/dysphasia = can't speak
Aphagia/dysphagia = can't swallowApparently aphasia websites field this mixup often enough to require an explanation page:
https://www.aphasia.org/aphasia-resources/dysphagia/The prognosis for either is...well, I guess an anti-gnostic wouldn't be interested.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
It’s all just “Alzheimer’s.” Your brain is deteriorating from the front back and the top down. And whether you are at ideal body weight and in exquisite cardiovascular shape does not matter.
DESTROYER OF CITIES.Replies: @Alden
Thanks I’ll remember Modern architecture destroyer of cities. I shall refrain from my usual diatribe about Scandinavian furniture and Scandinavian color schemes ranging from oatmeal to cream of wheat to mashed up brown and white rice. In the old days Scandinavian interiors featured cabinets and woodwork painted light blue with lots of red and yellow flowers and S and C curves. Wanted to hire an artist to do the kitchen like that. Husband refused. Meanie.
I wonder if part of the decline of serial killers is due possible victims becoming more aware.
I was born in 1951 but my mother was a true crime buff. She had books about various serial killers of the past (they did exist in the entire 20th century, and the first widely studied case, Jack the Ripper, dates to the late 19th century).
So she warned me very carefully from a young age. And I read the books myself as a teenager.
So I was more aware than average due to this background. But it didn’t long after the explosion in cases for others to become more aware.
I suspect it has more to do with current technology. Serial killers get caught before they kill enough to be cosidered serial killers. How many times does the average person end up on video every time they leave their home? Several hundred times. Then there is DNA testing, cell phone tracking, OnStar, IP address history, satellite images. Law enforcement has the tools to solve most crimes, if they wanted to.
...sitting.
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Still, Ringo and Dave Clark have outlived their colleagues. Carmine Appice is still with Vanilla Fudge, a band whose members' metabolisms are as slow as their songs.Replies: @Alden, @duncsbaby
I remember a picture of Keith and his father in father’s 80th birthday. Father looked younger.
Yes. Insh’allah if my mind goes before my body I have enough marbles to recognize that time when it comes, but I don’t think that’s how it works out.
I think the decline in assassinations is due to much increased security.
I realize few Steve readers listen to Ben Shapiro but I do.
In wake of the Uvalde shooting, he had an interesting video about security at private schools, especially Jewish ones. He’s familiar with it from his own schooling and now he has kids of his own.
He thinks it should be an obvious way to improve the situation for public schools.
Hubert Green looked like he could’ve been a brother in the Bush clan.
So who’s right? Don McLaughlin, or Don McLean?
Gerald Ford….I mean, why would someone try to assassinate Gerald Ford?
Aside: I don’t know why but whenever the name Lynette ‘Squeaky’ Fromme comes up I picture Lorraine Newman from the original Saturday Night Live case.
Lynette Fromme, unwitting operative in the Manson Family psyop, attempted to kill Ford on the state capitol grounds in Sacramento, September 5, 1975. A few days later, on September 22, Sara Jane Moore, well known to the Secret Service as an unstable individual on psychotropic drugs, got very close to Ford in San Francisco and managed to fire off a couple of rounds from a .44 before being subdued.
Who was President Ford's VP? Nelson Rockefeller. That's why.Replies: @Alden
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco
Dude, we are trying to have a light and airy conversation about assassination attempts and death threats here. Don’t be such a downer!
Sorry to hear about Ray Liotta. I remember when he was an up and comer. He was very, very good in Goodfellas. His performance is overlooked because of Joe Pesci’s and Martin Scorsese’s pyrotechnic directing, but it held the movie together. RIP, indeed.
Yes, it's bad about Ray; 67 is too young to go.
My pop should have made it to 100 with his excellent physical fitness but Alzheimer's got him in his 70's. A failing GI tract killed him before he would have forgotten who we were so thank God for small favors. Bruce Willis's family is in for a rough ride.
I was born in 1951 but my mother was a true crime buff. She had books about various serial killers of the past (they did exist in the entire 20th century, and the first widely studied case, Jack the Ripper, dates to the late 19th century).
So she warned me very carefully from a young age. And I read the books myself as a teenager.
So I was more aware than average due to this background. But it didn’t long after the explosion in cases for others to become more aware.Replies: @J.Ross, @Charlotte, @Sam Hildebrand
There’s a really aberrant episode in Ray Bradbury’s Dandelion Wine (1957) where there is a kind of serial killer called “The Lonely One,” and the treatment is that not only are the women aware but some are too aware and making false identifications. And it wasn’t frequently discussed but there are references to child molestation from mid-century, in the second segment of the Jack Webb Dragnet pilot/movie, Joseph Heller’s Catch-22, and that educational cartoon about the blonde twins who are approached by about twenty molesters in the space of five minutes. Wasn’t there enormous popular awareness about Jack the Ripper?
Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.
The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.
The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @peterike, @AceDeuce
It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).Replies: @kaganovitch, @duncsbaby
It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).
The number of American Whites in the NBA is slightly higher than the number of Euro/SA/Aussie Whites fwiw.
It occurs to me to ask Steve why it is that the only white guys playing in the NBA are Serbs or at least not Americans? Perhaps white Americans should go play in Europe to develop their games instead in playing in the NCAA (aka the NBA minor leagues).Replies: @kaganovitch, @duncsbaby
Steve has actually addressed this phenomenon before. He theorized that tall athletic white kids are groomed to be pitchers nowadays because there’s more likelihood of success in baseball. I’m paraphrasing of course from memory, Steve may be able to set you straight, if he’s interested.
If Perot had NOT got into the 1992 race, would Bush have been able to edge out Clinton even with the economy perceived as being in the toilet? Did Perot change history by jumping in and splitting mostly the likely-Republican vote, and so deny the Republicans a fourth consecutive presidential victory that would have led to their Reagan-era surge continuing at full-bore all all through the 1990s? Would the 1994 Republican congressional landslide have still happened under a second Bush term?
Even in ‘96, Perot drew enough of a share to deny Clinton an outright majority.
The GOP landslide in ‘94 was a direct repudiation of Clinton’s policies, so, no, it wouldn’t have happened if 41 had won a second term.
The interesting question is, would Dan Quayle have had a serious shot at the nomination in ‘96? Probably not, but stranger things have happened.
The most successful white North American NBA players tend to be from mostly white areas like the Pacific Northwest or British Columbia.
Oh, and British Columbia is the Pacific Northwest:
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call me a sociopath, but I like all these mass shootings, especially school shootings…i mean, yeah, it’s tragic and all for people, especially kids, to lose their lives, but in the big picture, these shootings are hardly a blip on all the other deaths that happen every day due to aging, disease, car wrecks etc…
and the school shootings keep things lively, interesting…I deserve to be entertained…and they are are good entertainment….
plus, these shootings are educational…watching all the first amendment auditor videos on youtube has shown me that the cops are typically low IQ types with a massive ego gratification and dominance complex who can turn murderous in a second if you do not subordinate yourself to them….and these shootings are a good example of how flawed and worthless cops really are….not only this shooting, but the pulse, parkland and columbine shootings all showed cops for the cowards they are…the people are starting to catch on…
Steve, as a fan, I’m cautioning you to not get all caught up with serial killer hunting.
It will make you weird.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzDZpsS2Nds
One theory is that the discrepancy in puberty plays a big role. Black kids hit puberty earlier so white kids playing black kids in high school will not do as well as white kids who get to play only white kids, as in Europe or the Pacific Northwest.
Aside: I don't know why but whenever the name Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme comes up I picture Lorraine Newman from the original Saturday Night Live case.Replies: @Anon, @SunBakedSuburb
I believe Fromme along with her parents and siblings were a kind of traveling singing cowboy group in the 50s. I think they enjoyed some popularity at that time. What a trajectory.
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco
The best thing is to go in time ….
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One person who challenged us all on this issue was Janet Adkins, of Portland, Oregon, when she took her life with the help of Dr. Jack Kevorkian in Michigan in 1990.
She waited only a year until the first bad symptoms of Alzheimer’s began to show, notably memory loss. She was widely criticized by many health professionals for taking
her life when in the same week she had played tennis. They argued that she still had much quality of life remaining.
There was no question that she was still physically well, but her mind had deteriorated so badly that she could not keep the tennis score. To Janet, her intellectual faculties
were more important than bodily well-being and the decision on the quality-of-life issues was hers alone to make.
Janet, and many other victims of the same disease, are worried about what point their mental deterioration will become so serious that they are unable to think and act for
themselves and also become legally an “incompetent.” At a certain point in the disease—perhaps after two to five years, but there is no certainty—the patient’s intellectual
deterioration becomes so serious that personal control is lost and another ten to fifteen years of illness follows. At that point, it is too late for voluntary euthanasia!
The decision of Janet Adkins to die at the time she did probably surprised me less than anybody, because I hear of this happening a great deal in unreported cases. Most of
these exits are as a result of Parkinson’s disease, multiple sclerosis, ALS, or degenerative old age. I also knew that Janet was a member of a right-to-die group even before the onset of her illness and that she had been making inquiries about self-deliverance before going to Dr. Kevorkian. There are other forms of senility, of course, and the effect of slight strokes also advises people that their life is drawing to a close.
When will the final stroke come? It could be years away, which might mean a nursing home for the final years. Many people have seen their parents through a grim deathwatch and do not wish to repeat it for themselves. It is not uncommon for such people to look back on their lives, count their blessings, and proceed to end their existence. The tragedy is that if there were lawful, planned medical euthanasia available they could have lived many months longer. But so long as America remains in the “do-it-yourself” mode, these early suicides are bound to continue.
Sorry to hear about Ray Liotta. I remember when he was an up and comer. He was very, very good in Goodfellas. His performance is overlooked because of Joe Pesci's and Martin Scorsese's pyrotechnic directing, but it held the movie together. RIP, indeed.Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
LOL. Good day to you as well sir!
Yes, it’s bad about Ray; 67 is too young to go.
My pop should have made it to 100 with his excellent physical fitness but Alzheimer’s got him in his 70’s. A failing GI tract killed him before he would have forgotten who we were so thank God for small favors. Bruce Willis’s family is in for a rough ride.
99.99 % of death threats are benign.
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco
Ray Lipton was a 3 pack a day guy and in poor health for at least 10 years
Everyone forgets that in 1993 a lunatic stabbed Monica Seles during a match. It more or less ended her career.
https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-crazy-years-2/#comment-5362560 (#9)
Unfortunately true.
This plus actually enforcing the law in the inner cities begins to make them livable again.Replies: @jay
All murder by either Men or Women should result in execution. Men make up 89% of murderers and women 11%
“With the exception of Oklahoma, Texas and Florida, 50% of the population, who commit 11% of all murders, are virtually exempt from actual execution it would seem, this being the female half of society. Just eleven women have been executed between 1984 and 2011, of whom two were consensual – Christina Riggs in Arkansas and Aileen Wournoss in Florida.”
http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/deterrence.html
No one should get away with murder. They need all to perish.
I’m not familiar with Ray Bradbury or Jack Webb.
Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.
The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.
The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.
https://www.history.com/news/has-jack-the-rippers-identity-been-revealed
Edgar Winter was 34 months younger than brother Johnny, but looked 34 years younger. Scientology is easier on the body than heroin.
Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.
The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.
The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @peterike, @AceDeuce
It was quite safe in Europe long after the hippie era, though women were advised to bring a companion. German and British drivers were especially generous, Scandinavians the opposite.
vox.com told me that Amber Heard is a victim, so obviously she is good and Johnny is bad. It’s literally science, chud.
Looks like the Feds probably had a role in encouraging the Buffalo race shooter:
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/authorities-investigating-if-retired-federal-agent-knew-of-buffalo-mass-shooting-plans-in-advance/article_bd408f18-dd39-11ec-be53-df8fdd095d6f.html#tracking-source=home-top-story
The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.
The parole board just recommended granting Patricia Krenwinkle’s application. Not yet a done deal.
No, quite the opposite.
The FBI is a domestic intelligence/political police organization that serves the dominant ideology in DC. At this point it is perhaps the most dangerous federal bureaucracy to the life of the average citizen. Send its legitimate law enforcement functions back to the states along with required funding. What remains needs to be dissolved and investigated by investigative entities unconnected to Main Justice (DOJ suffers from the same disease).
The parole board just recommended granting Patricia Krenwinkle's application. Not yet a done deal.Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
“The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso [sic] about the Manson case created some needed realism.”
No, quite the opposite.
Charlie Watts slipped away before Keith Richards. How does that happen?
Phil Collins and Ozzy Ozbourne will be dead before their 80th birthdays.
Hopefully Bruce Willis will be dead in the next few years, before he starts looking at Emma Heming and asking her what those children (his daughters) are doing in the house. She is really going to freak when she realizes that "aphasia" means his brain no longer knows how to tell his esophagus to swallow food.
COVID is killing 82-year olds and people are donning the plague masks and lining up for the State's magic bug juice. They'll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it's going to seem like the whole world is dying.Replies: @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco, @usNthem, @anonymous, @Reg Cæsar, @duncsbaby, @Bardon Kaldian, @Mike Tre, @Art Deco
They’ll be horrified over the next 20 years as the huge Boomer demographic starts shuffling off the coil; it’s going to seem like the whole world is dying.
No it won’t. Birth cohorts increased in size from 1936 to 1957, then began to decline. About 30% of those people are already deceased and all of them are past the median retirement age.
Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.
The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.
The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @peterike, @AceDeuce
Seems like a good time to remind everyone that Jack the Ripper was a Polish Jewish immigrant. One more reason to never allow immigrants into your country. Lots and lots of stories about the “Polish immigrant,” very few mentioning he was also Jewish.
https://www.history.com/news/has-jack-the-rippers-identity-been-revealed
Monday Night Football was where many Americans (including my newsroom) got the news about Lennon, via Howard Cosell
Aside: I don't know why but whenever the name Lynette 'Squeaky' Fromme comes up I picture Lorraine Newman from the original Saturday Night Live case.Replies: @Anon, @SunBakedSuburb
“… why would someone try to assassinate Gerald Ford?”
Lynette Fromme, unwitting operative in the Manson Family psyop, attempted to kill Ford on the state capitol grounds in Sacramento, September 5, 1975. A few days later, on September 22, Sara Jane Moore, well known to the Secret Service as an unstable individual on psychotropic drugs, got very close to Ford in San Francisco and managed to fire off a couple of rounds from a .44 before being subdued.
Who was President Ford’s VP? Nelson Rockefeller. That’s why.
San Francisco N California was insane at the time. Perfect place for an assassination.
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1384/0075/articles/Rokform_-_Shooter-19_1000x.jpg?v=1624176703
On a grassy knoll.
https://www.morristourism.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Knoll-Country-Club-229-Kent-HR.jpg
By the way, why aren't there more pro-golfers named "Green"?Replies: @Known Fact
Or Irons. Or Woods — oh wait
Liotta – autocorrect f’d me again.
I agree.
How soon they forget. It must be so frustrating seeing your best work go unacknowledged.
The CIA isn’t getting nearly enough credit for the Operation Gladio links to the Uke’s Banderites.
Hitchhiking was a normal practice, respected by the authorities, especially for students on holiday, in the Communist world. There are still scenes of “normal” hitchhiking in modern Cuban movies. Of course, that’s out of poverty. Not sure how well that applies in no-trust China.
No it won't. Birth cohorts increased in size from 1936 to 1957, then began to decline. About 30% of those people are already deceased and all of them are past the median retirement age.Replies: @J.Ross
But what about all the pyramid schemes erected on Boomer credulity? Surely importing large numbers of violent illiterates will keep the pyramid schemes going?
Bjorn Borg and BB King and Boris Becker.
Better not forget the Killer B’s of the 1982 Miami Dolphins.
Led by Kim Bokamper and the Blackwoods — Glenn and Lyle.
Bob Baumhower is another BB for the Killer B’s of the Miami Dolphins.
https://twitter.com/80sFootballCard/status/1264704378189099012?s=20&t=8vVd-UOjXKMOie69E1Knwg
I don’t believe in the magic power of third candidates to derail every single election. TR is a very obvious self-explanatory exception. He had not only been president but the most popular president in memory. Of course he would throw everything off. But Perot and Nader were candidates interesting to voters who otherwise would not have voted. The average Nader voter thought that there was no meaningful difference between Bush and Gore, and was vindicated in Bush versus Kerry, when there was even less difference and Kerry couldn’t get seagulls to notice his press conferences.
They feel safer in the locker room!
Oh, and British Columbia is the Pacific Northwest:
Former Unz laughingstock and current LA Times token bean Gustavo Arellano: “a Latino had never been the killer in any of … the 10 worst mass shootings — until Ramos.”
I guess he's never heard of Angel Resendiz, Mexican serial killer (official body count: 23). Of course what Arellano is doing is playing word games. Latinos haven't been spree shooters typically, so what is there to complain about? Oh nothing, except railroad hobos with pickaxes.
Plus all this went down in the 1990s, and who remembers that?
And this from Arellano:
“The tragedy in Uvalde disproves what white supremacists say about Latinos and other minorities. We’re not unassimilable; we all become part of the United States.”
Nice deflection there. Now tell us about Mexican gun violence. Of course, being a proud bean, I'm sure he blames Mexican gun violence on American weapons being trafficked across the border to innocent people with no agency. It's what they all do.Replies: @That Would Be Telling
This Gustavo Arellano should also note the “Hispanic” true mass murder method of choice, if we could say such a thing about such infrequent crimes in the US, is arson, see the Dupont Plaza Hotel arson and the the Happy Land fire which respectively killed 96-98 and 87 people. As far as criminal mass murder in the US, I’m not sure there’s any with higher death tolls, depending on how you score Muslim terrorist attacks.
When only 2.9 million people died in 2019, “the Boomers” and lots of people outside their generation like my parents and myself were right to “freak out” over the worst pandemic since 1918-9. That’s 530K extra deaths before you you subtract the 50-80K per AnotherDad for annual increases due to an aging population. As extensively discussed on iSteve there’s good reasons a full year of the pandemic killed even more people.
Afraid those of you maliciously waiting for us vaxxed to all drop dead are still going to be disappointed, after the aftermath of Omicron wave started ending in March the all cause excess deaths also dropped dramatically and pretty quickly to about normal (look here, noting that it takes up to eight weeks or more for death certificates to make it to the CDC and get tallied, so the last few weeks are under counts).
...sitting.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/210824124706-03-charlie-watts-rolling-stones-lead-image-exlarge-169.jpg
Still, Ringo and Dave Clark have outlived their colleagues. Carmine Appice is still with Vanilla Fudge, a band whose members' metabolisms are as slow as their songs.Replies: @Alden, @duncsbaby
It’s all just a big crap shoot, all the Ramones’ drummers outlived Joey, Johnny, & Dee Dee. Hell, even Topper Headon is still alive and he was a smack junkie. Bill Kreutzman and Mickey Hart of the Dead are still among the living. Although I do see that Alan White expired yesterday, maybe it was just his time.
Favorite underrated Yes album was Drama, when Jon Anderson left the band and Buggles joined up. I’m pretty sure the critics hated it. This is a great song though. RIP Alan White.
Plenty are called Mashie-Niblick after all.
Lynette Fromme, unwitting operative in the Manson Family psyop, attempted to kill Ford on the state capitol grounds in Sacramento, September 5, 1975. A few days later, on September 22, Sara Jane Moore, well known to the Secret Service as an unstable individual on psychotropic drugs, got very close to Ford in San Francisco and managed to fire off a couple of rounds from a .44 before being subdued.
Who was President Ford's VP? Nelson Rockefeller. That's why.Replies: @Alden
Oh thanks. I forgot that Rockefeller would have become President had Ford been killed. Turns out the Rockefeller’s have been far more successful operating behind the scenes.
San Francisco N California was insane at the time. Perfect place for an assassination.
Would’ve been funny if he was also wearing helmet
Better not forget the Killer B's of the 1982 Miami Dolphins.
Led by Kim Bokamper and the Blackwoods -- Glenn and Lyle.
Bob Baumhower is another BB for the Killer B's of the Miami Dolphins.
https://twitter.com/80sFootballCard/status/1264704378189099012?s=20&t=8vVd-UOjXKMOie69E1KnwgReplies: @Danindc
Lyle and Glenn both started at safety in Super Bowl 17. Although it was one of the worst super bowl teams ever…
Oh, and British Columbia is the Pacific Northwest:
https://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/6439891/Screen_Shot_2016-05-04_at_6.50.43_PM.0.pngReplies: @Danindc
Lots of games esp with aau ball. Probably gets old pretending to love gangsta rap.
Perot cost Bush the ‘92 election, yes. Virtually all of his support came from disaffected Republicans. Clinton won the presidency with the same percentage that Dukakis racked up in 1988.
Even in ‘96, Perot drew enough of a share to deny Clinton an outright majority.
The GOP landslide in ‘94 was a direct repudiation of Clinton’s policies, so, no, it wouldn’t have happened if 41 had won a second term.
The interesting question is, would Dan Quayle have had a serious shot at the nomination in ‘96? Probably not, but stranger things have happened.
OT: Movie reviews.
1) Downton Abbey: Clever plot with not too many ! moments. You will like it if you liked the series. Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park.
2) Top Gun: Better than I thought it would be. Plot twists that I didn’t see coming. Jennifer Connelly is not Kelly McGillis but looks great. They had huge cooperation from the navy and it shows. Tom Cruise does a good job of playing Tom Cruise and does not hog the screen.
Bottom line is that both are 2 hours of B+ entertainment with almost no Woke bs.
Pathetic.
What tennis-relevant injuries did she suffer?
Stabbing.
1) Downton Abbey: Clever plot with not too many ! moments. You will like it if you liked the series. Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park.
2) Top Gun: Better than I thought it would be. Plot twists that I didn't see coming. Jennifer Connelly is not Kelly McGillis but looks great. They had huge cooperation from the navy and it shows. Tom Cruise does a good job of playing Tom Cruise and does not hog the screen.
Bottom line is that both are 2 hours of B+ entertainment with almost no Woke bs.Replies: @Steve Sailer
“Maggie Smith gets all the best lines and hits them out of the park.”
I’ve always liked Maggie Smith but didn’t realize she’s still active. She won her Oscar, playing an aging schoolteacher in The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie over a half century ago.
He knows how to read his lines just like the sons of sports announcers just know how to call a game.
https://twitter.com/ClassicMovieHub/status/1415525288671338498?s=20&t=7tT4VtxS_UJ7kObdvPszMw
She played, shall we say, mature women.
I was born in 1951 but my mother was a true crime buff. She had books about various serial killers of the past (they did exist in the entire 20th century, and the first widely studied case, Jack the Ripper, dates to the late 19th century).
So she warned me very carefully from a young age. And I read the books myself as a teenager.
So I was more aware than average due to this background. But it didn’t long after the explosion in cases for others to become more aware.Replies: @J.Ross, @Charlotte, @Sam Hildebrand
Women certainly learned not to hitchhike and so forth. Even respectable young women hitchhiked in the forties. Haven’t some of the more recent serial killers either focused on prostitutes or attacked victims in their homes? I wonder if the in-your-face violence of movies like Rambo didn’t make mowing people down seem more glamorous than furtive, solitary killing to a certain kind of mind. And once one person does it in a high-profile way, there’s a sort of cultural template to follow.
Jack the Ripper has been much studied but the circumstances wouldn’t increase awareness in the mid 20th century. His victims were low class prostitutes in London, England.
The hippy era produced much silliness. People took chances that no one would do now. Hitchhiking is a good example. It is dangerous to hitchhike or to pick hitchhikers up. It was very widespread in the hippy era.
The Charles Manson murders in 1960s provided some highly negative feedback on the hippy era, although he and his women were not serial killers. The book written by prosecuting district attorney Vincent Buglioso about the Manson case created some much needed realism. The sheer awfulness of the crimes is hard to beat.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @peterike, @AceDeuce
People hitchhiked during the “hippy era” because a great many people hitchhiked, with minimal problems, BEFORE the “hippy era”. The “hippy era” is when it all started to go bad.
Maggie Smith has a son named Toby Stephens; he was in a Bond movie twenty years ago.
He knows how to read his lines just like the sons of sports announcers just know how to call a game.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Seles#1993_stabbing_attack :
If you scroll/click upthread, you can play the cited song:
https://www.unz.com/isteve/the-crazy-years-2/#comment-5362560 (#9)
Ever hear of tennis elbow? This was even worse: tennis puncture.
It will make you weird.
https://youtu.be/KjvAhcQ0rloReplies: @Onebelowall
It’s amazing that Richard Grieco is pretty much forgotten, but he rivaled Depp in popularity at the time:
I was born in 1951 but my mother was a true crime buff. She had books about various serial killers of the past (they did exist in the entire 20th century, and the first widely studied case, Jack the Ripper, dates to the late 19th century).
So she warned me very carefully from a young age. And I read the books myself as a teenager.
So I was more aware than average due to this background. But it didn’t long after the explosion in cases for others to become more aware.Replies: @J.Ross, @Charlotte, @Sam Hildebrand
“I wonder if part of the decline of serial killers is due possible victims becoming more aware.”
I suspect it has more to do with current technology. Serial killers get caught before they kill enough to be cosidered serial killers. How many times does the average person end up on video every time they leave their home? Several hundred times. Then there is DNA testing, cell phone tracking, OnStar, IP address history, satellite images. Law enforcement has the tools to solve most crimes, if they wanted to.
I used to see her on the stage in London, by my count and to my surprise, 45 years ago.
She played, shall we say, mature women.