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I sympathize with Joe Biden getting San Antonio mayor and HUD Secretary Julian Castro confused with San Antonio mayor and HUD Secretary Henry Cisneros, who was merely Castro’s mentor and, back in the day, a friend of Julian’s single mom.

In fact I spent 6 hours one night trying to prove my hunch that Julian Castro is Henry Cisneros’ illegitimate son.

I was wrong, however.

The Castro twins’ father is a retired San Antonio schoolteacher.

 
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  1. “You know, I love being here in the Quaker State.. sorry meant Castrol, Julio Castrol… I’m old enough to remember taking castor oil as a kid, not many people remember that.”

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    ..and what the heck is with all these castrated Mexicans running for president?

    , @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Inspired by this classic (#45) :

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/joe-biden-2020/#comment-2773673

  2. Joe’s gettin’ old.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    @trelane

    He confused the intelligent Hispanic guy (Cisneros) with the empty suit Hispanic guy (Castro).

    Now _that_ is racism.

    , @SunBakedSuburb
    @trelane

    "Joe's gettin' old."

    Joe is white cover for the Scary Stacey Abrams presidency. President Abrams will approach and perhaps eclipse the damage done by President Cheney.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

  3. So, there’s a retired San Antonio schoolteacher that looks like a space alien? What subjects did he teach?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    I forget where, but I found a low key local article about Mayor Castro going to his father's retirement luncheon, with lots of pictures, and they did look quite a bit alike.

    It was anti-climactic for me.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  4. @Anonymous
    So, there's a retired San Antonio schoolteacher that looks like a space alien? What subjects did he teach?

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    I forget where, but I found a low key local article about Mayor Castro going to his father’s retirement luncheon, with lots of pictures, and they did look quite a bit alike.

    It was anti-climactic for me.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Steve Sailer


    It was anti-climactic for me.
     
    Conception generally is. Post-climactic, that is.
  5. Biden, Brennan, Clapper, Hilarity, et al: old folks clusterF.

  6. The Castro twins’ father is a retired San Antonio schoolteacher.

    Yeah…..that’s what the Reverse Vampires want you to think!

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @fish

    While it is true that the Canadian prime minister is the offspring of Fidel Castro, I refuse to believe the gay-face Castro twins are as well. Fidel has many character flaws, but spreading his seed as promiscuously as a basketball black isn't one of them.

  7. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    “You know, I love being here in the Quaker State.. sorry meant Castrol, Julio Castrol… I’m old enough to remember taking castor oil as a kid, not many people remember that.”

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Jenner Ickham Errican

    ..and what the heck is with all these castrated Mexicans running for president?

  8. It’s just one guy, not twins.

  9. I remember as a child the Minnesota Vikings had the following players on their roster:

    John Randle
    Ed McDaniel
    Randall McDaniel

    I once stood in line for a rollercoaster ride behind one of these gentlemen, true story. It wasn’t John Randle, because he was the most famous and I can remember what he looks like. (Aside from “large black man.”) However, I can’t narrow it down any further, though I will never forget how frickin’ huge his calves were.

    Sometimes things legitimately jumble themselves.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    @guest

    Don't forget Randall Cunningham.

    , @Faraday's Bobcat
    @guest

    At least they didn't sign Antwaan Randle-El.

    , @J.Ross
    @guest

    Biden's flub was a solid mis-step but guest raises a salient, encoaching point: Hispanics have about twenty family names in impossibly heavy circulation, and once we have to deal with many more of them in high office, ridiculous work and extra detailing will be devoted to telling three different unrelated Gonzaleses or suchlike.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @guest


    John Randle
    Ed McDaniel
    Randall McDaniel
     
    Which one of those is Bo Diddley's spawn?
  10. Have you seen the new Boston Dynamics robot video? Why does everyone assume they will be used as soldiers, rather than cops? And, as such, will they be accused of racism?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @JeremiahJohnbalaya

    They’ll likely have a anti-racist self termination protocol. I can imagine a robot getting the Zimmerman or Wilson treatment. The Three Laws of Robotics will require triple coding for dealing with blacks.

    https://youtu.be/TstteJ1eIZg

    , @Budd Dwyer
    @JeremiahJohnbalaya


    Have you seen the new Boston Dynamics robot video? Why does everyone assume they will be used as soldiers, rather than cops? And, as such, will they be accused of racism?
     
    That was a Bosstown Dynamics parody.

    https://youtu.be/y3RIHnK0_NE

    Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya

  11. Elections (especially US Presidential ones) can be extremely taxing on individuals. I recall in Cairo’s “Path to Power” that Lyndon Johnson lost considerable weight to an unhealthy degree in a period of weeks. This was during his failed 1941 Senate race (I don’t have my copy available so can’t get the exact weight lost and timespan.)

    https://www.thegirlwhoshotjfk.com/wp-content/uploads/TGWSJFK/Main-Figures/LBJ/1940-1949/lbj-1940s-02.jpg?_t=1541101043

    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*

    • LOL: Tusk
    • Replies: @Ano
    @Kronos

    If Biden is just too doddery to carry on campaigning, why not substitute a younger doppelganger- or near double? (I remember people accused Hillary of employing a double in 2016.)
    For instance, couldn't the DNC ask their loyal water-carrier Anderson Cooper to take over, passing himself off as Creepy Joe- at least up until election day?

    (There's no risk of Anderson sniffing women.)

    How much plastic surgery/Hollywood special effects make-up would it take to fool 50%+1?

    Oh, speaking of hot man-on-man lip-kissing...

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/joe-bidens-weird-gay-acting-cnn-lgbtq-town-hall.html

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Twodees Partain

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Kronos



    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*
     
    Dear God, that's weird. How do you find these things? ( I won't ask 'why'... )

    Caro, not Cairo, btw, for anyone trying to do further research.

    Caro was so incredibly prolific. Makes me feel like an underachiever.

    Reading up on LBJ is fascinating. Back then winning the Democratic primary in Texas was tantamount to winning an election. No Republicans Allowed in so much of the South. I wonder how different our nation's history might have been without the Blue Dogs thing.

    https://millercenter.org/president/lbjohnson/life-before-the-presidency

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Kronos, @SFG

    , @Jesse
    @Kronos

    Kissing in the modern, "American" sense is a pretty modern and WEIRD thing. A lot of cultures regard(ed) kissing on the lips as gross, or a non-sexual show of affection, especially to those younger than you in your family. It's only as American culture has spread that the sexual connotations have become regard as universal. It's pretty weird that, for all the wails about cultural hegemony, no one's even commented on one cultural interpretation swamping all else.

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @I Have Scinde
    @Kronos

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pfzb8v6Owik

    , @Mr. Anon
    @Kronos

    LBJ was a creepy weirdo. As it seems are so many of those who seek high office.

  12. Off-topic, but this seems like the right place for it.

    ‘Charles Barkley: ‘Vice President Pence needs to shut the hell up’

    There’s something bizarre about a basketball player announcing the vice-president needs to ‘shut the hell up.’

    But the basketball player is black and the vice-president is white, so maybe it’s okay.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Colin Wright

    The good point being "never be deferential to the administration".

    , @Lugash
    @Colin Wright

    ‘Charles Barkley: ‘Vice President Pence needs to shut the hell up’

    There’s something bizarre about a basketball player announcing the vice-president needs to ‘shut the hell up.’

    But the basketball player is black and the vice-president is white, so maybe it’s okay.


    Barkley sees the truth and is just speaking out in his normal loudmouth manner. Barkley is correct that Pence is unfairly singling out the NBA for something all of corporate America does and using it as a weapon. Barkley isn't used to his beloved NBA being criticized and to Republicans fighting unfairly.

    I'm sure the league would have a different reaction if Larry Bird had told Obama to shut up about Ferguson or Trayvon.

    Replies: @Kronos

  13. @Steve Sailer
    @Anonymous

    I forget where, but I found a low key local article about Mayor Castro going to his father's retirement luncheon, with lots of pictures, and they did look quite a bit alike.

    It was anti-climactic for me.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    It was anti-climactic for me.

    Conception generally is. Post-climactic, that is.

  14. @Kronos
    Elections (especially US Presidential ones) can be extremely taxing on individuals. I recall in Cairo’s “Path to Power” that Lyndon Johnson lost considerable weight to an unhealthy degree in a period of weeks. This was during his failed 1941 Senate race (I don’t have my copy available so can’t get the exact weight lost and timespan.)

    https://www.thegirlwhoshotjfk.com/wp-content/uploads/TGWSJFK/Main-Figures/LBJ/1940-1949/lbj-1940s-02.jpg?_t=1541101043

    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kensmind/1278588/854687/854687_600.jpg

    Replies: @Ano, @Mr McKenna, @Jesse, @I Have Scinde, @Mr. Anon

    If Biden is just too doddery to carry on campaigning, why not substitute a younger doppelganger- or near double? (I remember people accused Hillary of employing a double in 2016.)
    For instance, couldn’t the DNC ask their loyal water-carrier Anderson Cooper to take over, passing himself off as Creepy Joe- at least up until election day?

    (There’s no risk of Anderson sniffing women.)

    How much plastic surgery/Hollywood special effects make-up would it take to fool 50%+1?

    Oh, speaking of hot man-on-man lip-kissing…

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/joe-bidens-weird-gay-acting-cnn-lgbtq-town-hall.html

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ano


    For instance, couldn’t the DNC ask their loyal water-carrier Anderson Cooper to take over, passing himself off as Creepy Joe- at least up until election day?
     
    Or, considering Biden's age, the skeleton of Anderson's brother Carter. How much glue would be necessary after 14 stories?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Twodees Partain
    @Ano

    You may remember the Hillary double who appeared on the street in front of Chelsea's building after Hillary had collapsed at the 911 memorial service. That really was a double, IMO. She looked a little like Hillary, but she moved like someone 20 years younger. Her voice also lacked the grating tone that Hillary's voice has always had.

  15. How is it that each and all of these corny “town hall” things the questioners are all drooling idiots incapable of asking a simple question as humans do, but rather they must speak robotically, stiltedly reading it from a piece of paper (sometimes the paper is done away with, as they robotically, stiltedly recite it like the most untalented third-grader in the annual Christmas pageant….).

    Too, the “question” always begins with a rambling preface which is a goofy micro-speech they seem to think no one noticed has been embezzled in, or a litany of presumptions (often patently untrue or, at best, assuming the answers to unresolved questions). When I give presentations at conferences and such, these are precisely the people I interrupt politely but firmly (“please get to the question,” “excuse me: do you have a question for me?,” etc.)

    It’s about the “common man,” having his say, sure. Why does that always seem to mean “the stupid, common man?” One is reminded of the old stumper of why is it every time a tornado destroys a town anywhere in America, reporters seem to find the single stupidest, most inarticulate resident of the town to interview on television (“welp, I heard a sound what come up a whistlin’, so I turnt ta maw and like ta’ scurd me when I seen ’em clouds…”)

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @Autochthon

    The smarter people are too busy cleaning up.

  16. @Kronos
    Elections (especially US Presidential ones) can be extremely taxing on individuals. I recall in Cairo’s “Path to Power” that Lyndon Johnson lost considerable weight to an unhealthy degree in a period of weeks. This was during his failed 1941 Senate race (I don’t have my copy available so can’t get the exact weight lost and timespan.)

    https://www.thegirlwhoshotjfk.com/wp-content/uploads/TGWSJFK/Main-Figures/LBJ/1940-1949/lbj-1940s-02.jpg?_t=1541101043

    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kensmind/1278588/854687/854687_600.jpg

    Replies: @Ano, @Mr McKenna, @Jesse, @I Have Scinde, @Mr. Anon

    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*

    Dear God, that’s weird. How do you find these things? ( I won’t ask ‘why’… )

    Caro, not Cairo, btw, for anyone trying to do further research.

    Caro was so incredibly prolific. Makes me feel like an underachiever.

    Reading up on LBJ is fascinating. Back then winning the Democratic primary in Texas was tantamount to winning an election. No Republicans Allowed in so much of the South. I wonder how different our nation’s history might have been without the Blue Dogs thing.

    https://millercenter.org/president/lbjohnson/life-before-the-presidency

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Mr McKenna


    Caro was so incredibly prolific. Makes me feel like an underachiever.
     
    Caro amazingly uncovered voluminous dots that led Johnson from West Texas to the White House, but steadfastly refused to connect the ones that mattered most.

    His biography of Robert Moses was a fascinating study of what made NYC what it became; I particularly loved the bit about his use of bridges to keep "the wrong sorts of people" from actually getting to the beaches of Long Island.

    , @Kronos
    @Mr McKenna


    Dear God, that’s weird. How do you find these things? ( I won’t ask ‘why’… )
     
    The photo was in Caro’s book (my spellchecker messed his name up, thanks for pointing it out.)

    My favorite story was during Johnson’s school years at the teachers college. He convinced a (likely borderline retarded man) at school that cow shit could cure acne and acne scars. So he stuffed cow shot into tin foil and the retarded dude wore it like a mask for hours. Lyndon apparently got a lot of shit (hee hee) for pulling that by his fellow classmates. (This is in the Caro book.)

    The kissing thing just stands out as very odd and thus memorable. I also recall a really funny line in the film “Fat Man and Little Boy” (1989) (I’m just digging a hole for myself aren’t I?)

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress. He pretends to stay/visit his brother’s family. Anyway, while the FBI watch Oppenheimer say goodbye to his brother, they kiss on the lips. The FBI guy then says to his partner in the car:

    “He must be a Communist, he kissed his brother on the lips.”

    I don’t know if it’s a European thing, but it’s weird for sure. (Also, I’m disturbed my brain keeps track of this random crap and won’t make room for more accounting/math knowledge.)

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @prosa123, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    , @SFG
    @Mr McKenna

    My dad said you used to see Italian boys going arm in arm to look for girls.

    When homosexuality was unthinkable, men would often express (friendly or familial) affection to each other in ways we'd now consider gay-looking.

    It doesn't really register as 'gay' to me because the hats and black-and-white make it look 'old-timey'; the past is a foreign country, after all. They do things differently there.

    Replies: @IHTG, @nebulafox

  17. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    “You know, I love being here in the Quaker State.. sorry meant Castrol, Julio Castrol… I’m old enough to remember taking castor oil as a kid, not many people remember that.”

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Jenner Ickham Errican

  18. In fact I spent 6 hours one night trying to prove my hunch that Julian Castro is Henry Cisneros’ illegitimate son.

    I was wrong, however.

    The Castro twins’ father is a retired San Antonio schoolteacher.

    As they used to say, “Mama’s baby, Papa’s maybe.”

  19. There was a time Julian Castro cracked the 1.5% mark on the RealClearPolitics national polling average for the D-Team nomination. That time is no more. (Now at 0.7%.)

    Even in Texas (March 3 primary), Castro has only polled 2-4%.

    __________

    Texas primary polling (RCP average, reflecting 4 polls conducted July to Sept.):

    – Biden 27%
    – Beto 17%
    – Warren 16%
    – Sanders 13%
    – Harris 7%
    – Buttigieg 4%
    – Castro 3%
    – Yang 2%
    – Klobuchar 2%

    So Beto could plausibly win Texas. But Castro will have dropped out long before.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Hail

    One must wonder how narcissistic these characters have to be to persist despite such dismal prospects; it's like some like who cannot perform a paradiddle or sing in tune dropping out of school, convinced he will be the next Bill Bruford or Steve Perry....

  20. @Mr McKenna
    @Kronos



    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*
     
    Dear God, that's weird. How do you find these things? ( I won't ask 'why'... )

    Caro, not Cairo, btw, for anyone trying to do further research.

    Caro was so incredibly prolific. Makes me feel like an underachiever.

    Reading up on LBJ is fascinating. Back then winning the Democratic primary in Texas was tantamount to winning an election. No Republicans Allowed in so much of the South. I wonder how different our nation's history might have been without the Blue Dogs thing.

    https://millercenter.org/president/lbjohnson/life-before-the-presidency

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Kronos, @SFG

    Caro was so incredibly prolific. Makes me feel like an underachiever.

    Caro amazingly uncovered voluminous dots that led Johnson from West Texas to the White House, but steadfastly refused to connect the ones that mattered most.

    His biography of Robert Moses was a fascinating study of what made NYC what it became; I particularly loved the bit about his use of bridges to keep “the wrong sorts of people” from actually getting to the beaches of Long Island.

  21. @guest
    I remember as a child the Minnesota Vikings had the following players on their roster:

    John Randle
    Ed McDaniel
    Randall McDaniel

    I once stood in line for a rollercoaster ride behind one of these gentlemen, true story. It wasn't John Randle, because he was the most famous and I can remember what he looks like. (Aside from "large black man.") However, I can't narrow it down any further, though I will never forget how frickin' huge his calves were.

    Sometimes things legitimately jumble themselves.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Faraday's Bobcat, @J.Ross, @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t forget Randall Cunningham.

  22. @Mr McKenna
    @Kronos



    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*
     
    Dear God, that's weird. How do you find these things? ( I won't ask 'why'... )

    Caro, not Cairo, btw, for anyone trying to do further research.

    Caro was so incredibly prolific. Makes me feel like an underachiever.

    Reading up on LBJ is fascinating. Back then winning the Democratic primary in Texas was tantamount to winning an election. No Republicans Allowed in so much of the South. I wonder how different our nation's history might have been without the Blue Dogs thing.

    https://millercenter.org/president/lbjohnson/life-before-the-presidency

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Kronos, @SFG

    Dear God, that’s weird. How do you find these things? ( I won’t ask ‘why’… )

    The photo was in Caro’s book (my spellchecker messed his name up, thanks for pointing it out.)

    My favorite story was during Johnson’s school years at the teachers college. He convinced a (likely borderline retarded man) at school that cow shit could cure acne and acne scars. So he stuffed cow shot into tin foil and the retarded dude wore it like a mask for hours. Lyndon apparently got a lot of shit (hee hee) for pulling that by his fellow classmates. (This is in the Caro book.)

    The kissing thing just stands out as very odd and thus memorable. I also recall a really funny line in the film “Fat Man and Little Boy” (1989) (I’m just digging a hole for myself aren’t I?)

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress. He pretends to stay/visit his brother’s family. Anyway, while the FBI watch Oppenheimer say goodbye to his brother, they kiss on the lips. The FBI guy then says to his partner in the car:

    “He must be a Communist, he kissed his brother on the lips.”

    I don’t know if it’s a European thing, but it’s weird for sure. (Also, I’m disturbed my brain keeps track of this random crap and won’t make room for more accounting/math knowledge.)

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Kronos

    The audio tape of LBJ ordering pants from J.M. Haggar is a must-listen.

    https://vimeo.com/18864216

    Replies: @Kronos

    , @prosa123
    @Kronos

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress.

    Six month's after Oppenheimer's s clandestine visit his mistress, Jean Tatlock, died under strange circumstances. At first it looked like an obvious suicide: Tatlock had taken a large dose of barbiturates and left a suicide note. It was rather more complicated. Tatlock had taken a sub-fatal dose of the drugs, and according to the autopsy did so right after eating a large meal. As a hospital psychiatrist she would have known both that the dose wouldn't be fatal and that the large meal would have slowed its absorption. It would have been easy for her to have obtained and taken a clearly fatal dose. The police never conclusively matched the suicide note to her handwriting, and it's not sure what happened to the original. Speaking of documentation, after discovering her body Tatlock's father spent over an hour destroying most of her papers before calling the authorities.

    What's strangest of all is the manner of death. Tatlock was lying on pillows next to the bathtub with her head immersed in the water, and died from drowning. It is just about impossible for a person to drown by intentionally holding their head in water. The instinctual reaction to breathe cannot be overcome. Finally, the coroner found traces of chloral hydrate in Tatlock's system, that being the essential ingredient of "knockout drops."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous

    , @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Kronos


    “He must be a Communist, he kissed his brother on the lips.”
     
    He was right. And LBJ is perhaps the greatest example of hubris inviting nemesis. I used to dismiss the conspiracy theory that the CIA murdered him in his dotage. But given what they have done with Trump, I am not so sure anymore.

    Replies: @Flip

  23. @trelane
    Joe's gettin' old.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @SunBakedSuburb

    He confused the intelligent Hispanic guy (Cisneros) with the empty suit Hispanic guy (Castro).

    Now _that_ is racism.

  24. @Mr McKenna
    @Kronos



    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*
     
    Dear God, that's weird. How do you find these things? ( I won't ask 'why'... )

    Caro, not Cairo, btw, for anyone trying to do further research.

    Caro was so incredibly prolific. Makes me feel like an underachiever.

    Reading up on LBJ is fascinating. Back then winning the Democratic primary in Texas was tantamount to winning an election. No Republicans Allowed in so much of the South. I wonder how different our nation's history might have been without the Blue Dogs thing.

    https://millercenter.org/president/lbjohnson/life-before-the-presidency

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @Kronos, @SFG

    My dad said you used to see Italian boys going arm in arm to look for girls.

    When homosexuality was unthinkable, men would often express (friendly or familial) affection to each other in ways we’d now consider gay-looking.

    It doesn’t really register as ‘gay’ to me because the hats and black-and-white make it look ‘old-timey’; the past is a foreign country, after all. They do things differently there.

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @SFG

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHJqJimW4AEbFlU?format=png&name=small

    , @nebulafox
    @SFG

    Yeah, in Saudi Arabia, you'll still see a lot of older men who are friends or business partners holding hands. It has no romantic connotation whatsoever.

  25. @Kronos
    Elections (especially US Presidential ones) can be extremely taxing on individuals. I recall in Cairo’s “Path to Power” that Lyndon Johnson lost considerable weight to an unhealthy degree in a period of weeks. This was during his failed 1941 Senate race (I don’t have my copy available so can’t get the exact weight lost and timespan.)

    https://www.thegirlwhoshotjfk.com/wp-content/uploads/TGWSJFK/Main-Figures/LBJ/1940-1949/lbj-1940s-02.jpg?_t=1541101043

    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kensmind/1278588/854687/854687_600.jpg

    Replies: @Ano, @Mr McKenna, @Jesse, @I Have Scinde, @Mr. Anon

    Kissing in the modern, “American” sense is a pretty modern and WEIRD thing. A lot of cultures regard(ed) kissing on the lips as gross, or a non-sexual show of affection, especially to those younger than you in your family. It’s only as American culture has spread that the sexual connotations have become regard as universal. It’s pretty weird that, for all the wails about cultural hegemony, no one’s even commented on one cultural interpretation swamping all else.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Jesse

    Perhaps, I just get a kick out of the woman in the photo’s background. (Maybe it’s Lyndon’s mother?)

    “Oh Samuel, (Lyndon’s father) I remember when you kissed me like that...”

  26. The Democratic party’s strategists have to be freaking out about who their frontrunners are at this point. Two of them could croak before the general election, and the third is an elitist scold that has no traction with the minority base they need to turn out.

    Trump is fortunate in his enemies.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @Arclight

    And everyone tries to disinvite Tulsi from the party.

    But I heard there is a Hillary Reanimation Project, an undertaking the Spanish Inquisition should really look into.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @fish
    @Arclight


    Trump is fortunate in his enemies......
     
    I still think he'll find a way to blow it!


    If he could learn to shut up one opportunity out of ten he would probably be fine!
    , @Desiderius
    @Arclight

    We all are. Although it could be argued that our biggest enemy is ourselves.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Arclight


    Two of them could croak before the general election, and the third is an elitist scold...
     
    Which of them, in your opinion, stands out among all the other elitist scolds on the stage?
    , @MBlanc46
    @Arclight

    And yet, he will still probably lose.

  27. @SFG
    @Mr McKenna

    My dad said you used to see Italian boys going arm in arm to look for girls.

    When homosexuality was unthinkable, men would often express (friendly or familial) affection to each other in ways we'd now consider gay-looking.

    It doesn't really register as 'gay' to me because the hats and black-and-white make it look 'old-timey'; the past is a foreign country, after all. They do things differently there.

    Replies: @IHTG, @nebulafox

  28. @Kronos
    @Mr McKenna


    Dear God, that’s weird. How do you find these things? ( I won’t ask ‘why’… )
     
    The photo was in Caro’s book (my spellchecker messed his name up, thanks for pointing it out.)

    My favorite story was during Johnson’s school years at the teachers college. He convinced a (likely borderline retarded man) at school that cow shit could cure acne and acne scars. So he stuffed cow shot into tin foil and the retarded dude wore it like a mask for hours. Lyndon apparently got a lot of shit (hee hee) for pulling that by his fellow classmates. (This is in the Caro book.)

    The kissing thing just stands out as very odd and thus memorable. I also recall a really funny line in the film “Fat Man and Little Boy” (1989) (I’m just digging a hole for myself aren’t I?)

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress. He pretends to stay/visit his brother’s family. Anyway, while the FBI watch Oppenheimer say goodbye to his brother, they kiss on the lips. The FBI guy then says to his partner in the car:

    “He must be a Communist, he kissed his brother on the lips.”

    I don’t know if it’s a European thing, but it’s weird for sure. (Also, I’m disturbed my brain keeps track of this random crap and won’t make room for more accounting/math knowledge.)

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @prosa123, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    The audio tape of LBJ ordering pants from J.M. Haggar is a must-listen.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @PiltdownMan

    Oh I love that one.

  29. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Have you seen the new Boston Dynamics robot video? Why does everyone assume they will be used as soldiers, rather than cops? And, as such, will they be accused of racism?

    Replies: @Kronos, @Budd Dwyer

    They’ll likely have a anti-racist self termination protocol. I can imagine a robot getting the Zimmerman or Wilson treatment. The Three Laws of Robotics will require triple coding for dealing with blacks.

  30. @PiltdownMan
    @Kronos

    The audio tape of LBJ ordering pants from J.M. Haggar is a must-listen.

    https://vimeo.com/18864216

    Replies: @Kronos

    Oh I love that one.

  31. Creepy Joe’s very public descent into dementia is breathtakingly funny. Future historians are going to have a ball picking this apart. “Trump’s opponents were so desperate they ran an Alzheimer’s afflicted two-time presidential loser….wait till we show you some of the campaign emails…..even as their allies in the press tried to cover up for him.”

    This is like when Hillary’s Parkinson/alcohol issues kept surfacing in 2016 despite deep denial from the corporate media.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    @R.G. Camara

    "Hillary's Parkinson/alcohol issues"

    Just give the old girl some baby's blood and she'll be right as rain.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

  32. @Colin Wright
    Off-topic, but this seems like the right place for it.

    'Charles Barkley: 'Vice President Pence needs to shut the hell up'

    There's something bizarre about a basketball player announcing the vice-president needs to 'shut the hell up.'

    But the basketball player is black and the vice-president is white, so maybe it's okay.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Lugash

    The good point being “never be deferential to the administration”.

  33. @Arclight
    The Democratic party's strategists have to be freaking out about who their frontrunners are at this point. Two of them could croak before the general election, and the third is an elitist scold that has no traction with the minority base they need to turn out.

    Trump is fortunate in his enemies.

    Replies: @El Dato, @fish, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    And everyone tries to disinvite Tulsi from the party.

    But I heard there is a Hillary Reanimation Project, an undertaking the Spanish Inquisition should really look into.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @El Dato


    But I heard there is a Hillary Reanimation Project, an undertaking the Spanish Inquisition should really look into.
     
    It's unfair to compare Hillary to the Inquisition. The Spaniards honored the presumption of innocence.

    Hillary does, too, but only for her clique.
  34. @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    Have you seen the new Boston Dynamics robot video? Why does everyone assume they will be used as soldiers, rather than cops? And, as such, will they be accused of racism?

    Replies: @Kronos, @Budd Dwyer

    Have you seen the new Boston Dynamics robot video? Why does everyone assume they will be used as soldiers, rather than cops? And, as such, will they be accused of racism?

    That was a Bosstown Dynamics parody.

    • Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya
    @Budd Dwyer

    LOL. Thanks.

  35. @guest
    I remember as a child the Minnesota Vikings had the following players on their roster:

    John Randle
    Ed McDaniel
    Randall McDaniel

    I once stood in line for a rollercoaster ride behind one of these gentlemen, true story. It wasn't John Randle, because he was the most famous and I can remember what he looks like. (Aside from "large black man.") However, I can't narrow it down any further, though I will never forget how frickin' huge his calves were.

    Sometimes things legitimately jumble themselves.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Faraday's Bobcat, @J.Ross, @Reg Cæsar

    At least they didn’t sign Antwaan Randle-El.

    • LOL: fish
  36. @Colin Wright
    Off-topic, but this seems like the right place for it.

    'Charles Barkley: 'Vice President Pence needs to shut the hell up'

    There's something bizarre about a basketball player announcing the vice-president needs to 'shut the hell up.'

    But the basketball player is black and the vice-president is white, so maybe it's okay.

    Replies: @El Dato, @Lugash

    ‘Charles Barkley: ‘Vice President Pence needs to shut the hell up’

    There’s something bizarre about a basketball player announcing the vice-president needs to ‘shut the hell up.’

    But the basketball player is black and the vice-president is white, so maybe it’s okay.

    Barkley sees the truth and is just speaking out in his normal loudmouth manner. Barkley is correct that Pence is unfairly singling out the NBA for something all of corporate America does and using it as a weapon. Barkley isn’t used to his beloved NBA being criticized and to Republicans fighting unfairly.

    I’m sure the league would have a different reaction if Larry Bird had told Obama to shut up about Ferguson or Trayvon.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Lugash

    Maybe being a Chinese government official is the new apex predator on the SJW intersectionality grease poll?

    https://youtu.be/l1hCRBwGAXE

  37. @trelane
    Joe's gettin' old.

    Replies: @Justvisiting, @SunBakedSuburb

    “Joe’s gettin’ old.”

    Joe is white cover for the Scary Stacey Abrams presidency. President Abrams will approach and perhaps eclipse the damage done by President Cheney.

    • Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe
    @SunBakedSuburb


    Joe is white cover for the Scary Stacey Abrams presidency. President Abrams will approach and perhaps eclipse the damage done by President Cheney.
     
    I don't believe Ms. Abrams will ever become Vice-President of the USA, let alone President. But if I'm wrong, and she does ascend to the Oval Office, there will be civil war. Or a coup. Or something. People will die. The USA may well cease to exist.
  38. @Kronos
    Elections (especially US Presidential ones) can be extremely taxing on individuals. I recall in Cairo’s “Path to Power” that Lyndon Johnson lost considerable weight to an unhealthy degree in a period of weeks. This was during his failed 1941 Senate race (I don’t have my copy available so can’t get the exact weight lost and timespan.)

    https://www.thegirlwhoshotjfk.com/wp-content/uploads/TGWSJFK/Main-Figures/LBJ/1940-1949/lbj-1940s-02.jpg?_t=1541101043

    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kensmind/1278588/854687/854687_600.jpg

    Replies: @Ano, @Mr McKenna, @Jesse, @I Have Scinde, @Mr. Anon

  39. @fish

    The Castro twins’ father is a retired San Antonio schoolteacher.
     
    Yeah.....that’s what the Reverse Vampires want you to think!



    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RXVE01oOTAM

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    While it is true that the Canadian prime minister is the offspring of Fidel Castro, I refuse to believe the gay-face Castro twins are as well. Fidel has many character flaws, but spreading his seed as promiscuously as a basketball black isn’t one of them.

  40. @Kronos
    @Mr McKenna


    Dear God, that’s weird. How do you find these things? ( I won’t ask ‘why’… )
     
    The photo was in Caro’s book (my spellchecker messed his name up, thanks for pointing it out.)

    My favorite story was during Johnson’s school years at the teachers college. He convinced a (likely borderline retarded man) at school that cow shit could cure acne and acne scars. So he stuffed cow shot into tin foil and the retarded dude wore it like a mask for hours. Lyndon apparently got a lot of shit (hee hee) for pulling that by his fellow classmates. (This is in the Caro book.)

    The kissing thing just stands out as very odd and thus memorable. I also recall a really funny line in the film “Fat Man and Little Boy” (1989) (I’m just digging a hole for myself aren’t I?)

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress. He pretends to stay/visit his brother’s family. Anyway, while the FBI watch Oppenheimer say goodbye to his brother, they kiss on the lips. The FBI guy then says to his partner in the car:

    “He must be a Communist, he kissed his brother on the lips.”

    I don’t know if it’s a European thing, but it’s weird for sure. (Also, I’m disturbed my brain keeps track of this random crap and won’t make room for more accounting/math knowledge.)

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @prosa123, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress.

    Six month’s after Oppenheimer’s s clandestine visit his mistress, Jean Tatlock, died under strange circumstances. At first it looked like an obvious suicide: Tatlock had taken a large dose of barbiturates and left a suicide note. It was rather more complicated. Tatlock had taken a sub-fatal dose of the drugs, and according to the autopsy did so right after eating a large meal. As a hospital psychiatrist she would have known both that the dose wouldn’t be fatal and that the large meal would have slowed its absorption. It would have been easy for her to have obtained and taken a clearly fatal dose. The police never conclusively matched the suicide note to her handwriting, and it’s not sure what happened to the original. Speaking of documentation, after discovering her body Tatlock’s father spent over an hour destroying most of her papers before calling the authorities.

    What’s strangest of all is the manner of death. Tatlock was lying on pillows next to the bathtub with her head immersed in the water, and died from drowning. It is just about impossible for a person to drown by intentionally holding their head in water. The instinctual reaction to breathe cannot be overcome. Finally, the coroner found traces of chloral hydrate in Tatlock’s system, that being the essential ingredient of “knockout drops.”

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @prosa123

    Interesting, if true. Where did that come from?

    Replies: @prosa123, @prosa123, @prosa123

    , @Anonymous
    @prosa123

    Barbiturates and choral hydrate suicide, where did I hear of that before? Oh yeah.

  41. @R.G. Camara
    Creepy Joe's very public descent into dementia is breathtakingly funny. Future historians are going to have a ball picking this apart. "Trump's opponents were so desperate they ran an Alzheimer's afflicted two-time presidential loser....wait till we show you some of the campaign emails.....even as their allies in the press tried to cover up for him."

    This is like when Hillary's Parkinson/alcohol issues kept surfacing in 2016 despite deep denial from the corporate media.

    Replies: @SunBakedSuburb

    “Hillary’s Parkinson/alcohol issues”

    Just give the old girl some baby’s blood and she’ll be right as rain.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @SunBakedSuburb

    https://media2.giphy.com/media/pErRJHGmyCuT6/giphy.gif

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)

    Replies: @Autochthon

  42. @Budd Dwyer
    @JeremiahJohnbalaya


    Have you seen the new Boston Dynamics robot video? Why does everyone assume they will be used as soldiers, rather than cops? And, as such, will they be accused of racism?
     
    That was a Bosstown Dynamics parody.

    https://youtu.be/y3RIHnK0_NE

    Replies: @JeremiahJohnbalaya

    LOL. Thanks.

  43. @prosa123
    @Kronos

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress.

    Six month's after Oppenheimer's s clandestine visit his mistress, Jean Tatlock, died under strange circumstances. At first it looked like an obvious suicide: Tatlock had taken a large dose of barbiturates and left a suicide note. It was rather more complicated. Tatlock had taken a sub-fatal dose of the drugs, and according to the autopsy did so right after eating a large meal. As a hospital psychiatrist she would have known both that the dose wouldn't be fatal and that the large meal would have slowed its absorption. It would have been easy for her to have obtained and taken a clearly fatal dose. The police never conclusively matched the suicide note to her handwriting, and it's not sure what happened to the original. Speaking of documentation, after discovering her body Tatlock's father spent over an hour destroying most of her papers before calling the authorities.

    What's strangest of all is the manner of death. Tatlock was lying on pillows next to the bathtub with her head immersed in the water, and died from drowning. It is just about impossible for a person to drown by intentionally holding their head in water. The instinctual reaction to breathe cannot be overcome. Finally, the coroner found traces of chloral hydrate in Tatlock's system, that being the essential ingredient of "knockout drops."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous

    Interesting, if true. Where did that come from?

    • Replies: @prosa123
    @Mr. Anon

    http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2015/12/11/the-curious-death-of-oppenheimers-mistress/

    , @prosa123
    @Mr. Anon

    http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2015/12/11/the-curious-death-of-oppenheimers-mistress/

    , @prosa123
    @Mr. Anon

    Here's a good overview:

    http://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2015/12/11/the-curious-death-of-oppenheimers-mistress/

  44. @Kronos
    Elections (especially US Presidential ones) can be extremely taxing on individuals. I recall in Cairo’s “Path to Power” that Lyndon Johnson lost considerable weight to an unhealthy degree in a period of weeks. This was during his failed 1941 Senate race (I don’t have my copy available so can’t get the exact weight lost and timespan.)

    https://www.thegirlwhoshotjfk.com/wp-content/uploads/TGWSJFK/Main-Figures/LBJ/1940-1949/lbj-1940s-02.jpg?_t=1541101043

    *Also never kiss your dad on the lips while on the campaign trail.*

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kensmind/1278588/854687/854687_600.jpg

    Replies: @Ano, @Mr McKenna, @Jesse, @I Have Scinde, @Mr. Anon

    LBJ was a creepy weirdo. As it seems are so many of those who seek high office.

  45. Your most high-profile reader yet

  46. @Autochthon
    How is it that each and all of these corny "town hall" things the questioners are all drooling idiots incapable of asking a simple question as humans do, but rather they must speak robotically, stiltedly reading it from a piece of paper (sometimes the paper is done away with, as they robotically, stiltedly recite it like the most untalented third-grader in the annual Christmas pageant....).

    Too, the "question" always begins with a rambling preface which is a goofy micro-speech they seem to think no one noticed has been embezzled in, or a litany of presumptions (often patently untrue or, at best, assuming the answers to unresolved questions). When I give presentations at conferences and such, these are precisely the people I interrupt politely but firmly ("please get to the question," "excuse me: do you have a question for me?," etc.)

    It's about the "common man," having his say, sure. Why does that always seem to mean "the stupid, common man?" One is reminded of the old stumper of why is it every time a tornado destroys a town anywhere in America, reporters seem to find the single stupidest, most inarticulate resident of the town to interview on television ("welp, I heard a sound what come up a whistlin', so I turnt ta maw and like ta' scurd me when I seen 'em clouds...")

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    The smarter people are too busy cleaning up.

  47. @Arclight
    The Democratic party's strategists have to be freaking out about who their frontrunners are at this point. Two of them could croak before the general election, and the third is an elitist scold that has no traction with the minority base they need to turn out.

    Trump is fortunate in his enemies.

    Replies: @El Dato, @fish, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    Trump is fortunate in his enemies……

    I still think he’ll find a way to blow it!

    If he could learn to shut up one opportunity out of ten he would probably be fine!

  48. @Jesse
    @Kronos

    Kissing in the modern, "American" sense is a pretty modern and WEIRD thing. A lot of cultures regard(ed) kissing on the lips as gross, or a non-sexual show of affection, especially to those younger than you in your family. It's only as American culture has spread that the sexual connotations have become regard as universal. It's pretty weird that, for all the wails about cultural hegemony, no one's even commented on one cultural interpretation swamping all else.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Perhaps, I just get a kick out of the woman in the photo’s background. (Maybe it’s Lyndon’s mother?)

    “Oh Samuel, (Lyndon’s father) I remember when you kissed me like that…”

  49. @Lugash
    @Colin Wright

    ‘Charles Barkley: ‘Vice President Pence needs to shut the hell up’

    There’s something bizarre about a basketball player announcing the vice-president needs to ‘shut the hell up.’

    But the basketball player is black and the vice-president is white, so maybe it’s okay.


    Barkley sees the truth and is just speaking out in his normal loudmouth manner. Barkley is correct that Pence is unfairly singling out the NBA for something all of corporate America does and using it as a weapon. Barkley isn't used to his beloved NBA being criticized and to Republicans fighting unfairly.

    I'm sure the league would have a different reaction if Larry Bird had told Obama to shut up about Ferguson or Trayvon.

    Replies: @Kronos

    Maybe being a Chinese government official is the new apex predator on the SJW intersectionality grease poll?

  50. @SFG
    @Mr McKenna

    My dad said you used to see Italian boys going arm in arm to look for girls.

    When homosexuality was unthinkable, men would often express (friendly or familial) affection to each other in ways we'd now consider gay-looking.

    It doesn't really register as 'gay' to me because the hats and black-and-white make it look 'old-timey'; the past is a foreign country, after all. They do things differently there.

    Replies: @IHTG, @nebulafox

    Yeah, in Saudi Arabia, you’ll still see a lot of older men who are friends or business partners holding hands. It has no romantic connotation whatsoever.

  51. @prosa123
    @Kronos

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress.

    Six month's after Oppenheimer's s clandestine visit his mistress, Jean Tatlock, died under strange circumstances. At first it looked like an obvious suicide: Tatlock had taken a large dose of barbiturates and left a suicide note. It was rather more complicated. Tatlock had taken a sub-fatal dose of the drugs, and according to the autopsy did so right after eating a large meal. As a hospital psychiatrist she would have known both that the dose wouldn't be fatal and that the large meal would have slowed its absorption. It would have been easy for her to have obtained and taken a clearly fatal dose. The police never conclusively matched the suicide note to her handwriting, and it's not sure what happened to the original. Speaking of documentation, after discovering her body Tatlock's father spent over an hour destroying most of her papers before calling the authorities.

    What's strangest of all is the manner of death. Tatlock was lying on pillows next to the bathtub with her head immersed in the water, and died from drowning. It is just about impossible for a person to drown by intentionally holding their head in water. The instinctual reaction to breathe cannot be overcome. Finally, the coroner found traces of chloral hydrate in Tatlock's system, that being the essential ingredient of "knockout drops."

    Replies: @Mr. Anon, @Anonymous

    Barbiturates and choral hydrate suicide, where did I hear of that before? Oh yeah.

  52. @guest
    I remember as a child the Minnesota Vikings had the following players on their roster:

    John Randle
    Ed McDaniel
    Randall McDaniel

    I once stood in line for a rollercoaster ride behind one of these gentlemen, true story. It wasn't John Randle, because he was the most famous and I can remember what he looks like. (Aside from "large black man.") However, I can't narrow it down any further, though I will never forget how frickin' huge his calves were.

    Sometimes things legitimately jumble themselves.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Faraday's Bobcat, @J.Ross, @Reg Cæsar

    Biden’s flub was a solid mis-step but guest raises a salient, encoaching point: Hispanics have about twenty family names in impossibly heavy circulation, and once we have to deal with many more of them in high office, ridiculous work and extra detailing will be devoted to telling three different unrelated Gonzaleses or suchlike.

  53. @guest
    I remember as a child the Minnesota Vikings had the following players on their roster:

    John Randle
    Ed McDaniel
    Randall McDaniel

    I once stood in line for a rollercoaster ride behind one of these gentlemen, true story. It wasn't John Randle, because he was the most famous and I can remember what he looks like. (Aside from "large black man.") However, I can't narrow it down any further, though I will never forget how frickin' huge his calves were.

    Sometimes things legitimately jumble themselves.

    Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike, @Faraday's Bobcat, @J.Ross, @Reg Cæsar

    John Randle
    Ed McDaniel
    Randall McDaniel

    Which one of those is Bo Diddley’s spawn?

  54. @Ano
    @Kronos

    If Biden is just too doddery to carry on campaigning, why not substitute a younger doppelganger- or near double? (I remember people accused Hillary of employing a double in 2016.)
    For instance, couldn't the DNC ask their loyal water-carrier Anderson Cooper to take over, passing himself off as Creepy Joe- at least up until election day?

    (There's no risk of Anderson sniffing women.)

    How much plastic surgery/Hollywood special effects make-up would it take to fool 50%+1?

    Oh, speaking of hot man-on-man lip-kissing...

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/joe-bidens-weird-gay-acting-cnn-lgbtq-town-hall.html

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Twodees Partain

    For instance, couldn’t the DNC ask their loyal water-carrier Anderson Cooper to take over, passing himself off as Creepy Joe- at least up until election day?

    Or, considering Biden’s age, the skeleton of Anderson’s brother Carter. How much glue would be necessary after 14 stories?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Reg Cæsar

    "In my sons' youth, their promise, their possibilities, my stake in immortality is invested." --Wyatt Cooper in Families, 1975

    That ranks with Loudon Wainwright III's "Rufus is a Tit Man" and Harry Chapin's "Cat's in the Cradle" among the worst paternal predictions of the 1970s.

  55. OT

    The US is going to need another wall.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @eah

    Solving the Canada Question:

    Canada Fragments—Is Alberta Secession Next?
    by Kevin Michael Grace • October 23, 2019 • 58 Comments

    (Among the most popular articles I've ever noticed at the Unz Review [by comment-count] not by a main author or blogger and not featured as an article of the day.)


    Even though the secession of Alberta would mean the end of Canada, there is no returning to the past. Estimates put a non-white takeover of Canada happening at 2040 or even earlier. There is no guarantee that the newly-independent constituent parts of Canada would choose to reject suicide. But it would be nice for us to have that choice.

    Because make no mistake, without a breakup, our destiny is sealed.
     

  56. @Reg Cæsar
    @Ano


    For instance, couldn’t the DNC ask their loyal water-carrier Anderson Cooper to take over, passing himself off as Creepy Joe- at least up until election day?
     
    Or, considering Biden's age, the skeleton of Anderson's brother Carter. How much glue would be necessary after 14 stories?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    “In my sons’ youth, their promise, their possibilities, my stake in immortality is invested.” –Wyatt Cooper in Families, 1975

    That ranks with Loudon Wainwright III’s “Rufus is a Tit Man” and Harry Chapin’s “Cat’s in the Cradle” among the worst paternal predictions of the 1970s.

  57. @Arclight
    The Democratic party's strategists have to be freaking out about who their frontrunners are at this point. Two of them could croak before the general election, and the third is an elitist scold that has no traction with the minority base they need to turn out.

    Trump is fortunate in his enemies.

    Replies: @El Dato, @fish, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    We all are. Although it could be argued that our biggest enemy is ourselves.

  58. Speaking of fathers and sons:

    Affordable family formation isn’t just a question of dollars and cents. Maybe Trump is going after Hunter because Biden’s people went after Don jr. and Flynn’s kid.

  59. @El Dato
    @Arclight

    And everyone tries to disinvite Tulsi from the party.

    But I heard there is a Hillary Reanimation Project, an undertaking the Spanish Inquisition should really look into.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    But I heard there is a Hillary Reanimation Project, an undertaking the Spanish Inquisition should really look into.

    It’s unfair to compare Hillary to the Inquisition. The Spaniards honored the presumption of innocence.

    Hillary does, too, but only for her clique.

  60. In other news involving the Bidens and the “Who’s your daddy?” Question:

    Hunter Biden agrees to DNA test to prove he didn’t father child with Arkansas woman

    https://pagesix.com/2019/10/22/hunter-biden-agrees-to-dna-test-to-prove-he-didnt-father-child-with-arkansas-woman/

    I’ll be very surprised if Hunter’s not the daddy.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Hunter has no memory of being with this woman. She may be just one of many women he paid to have sex with, and he may have been on drugs at the time.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Calvin Hobbes

    No comment:


    The birth of the child came while Hunter was in a relationship with Hallie Biden, his late brother Beau’s wife.
     
  61. OT

    #MeToo public service announcement.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @eah

    Big LMM was right. If a woman consents to sex, once things have firmed up she has to expect the normal course of action.


    “I have to be honest, I don’t give a f***,” she says, sounding as though she really doesn’t. “First I didn’t know, because I don’t read my press, but when I kept being questioned about it I said, ‘If you’re going to walk around in your underwear, drunk, you’re asking for it.’ And they really jumped on me for that. Because the idea in this climate of pseudo-empowerment is that no means no. Well, I have news for you, girls. A stiff dick means yes.”

    Surely she is not saying the bikers were in their rights to rape her? “What I’m saying is that women think men are in control all the time, but men are weaker than women. And don’t mess with these guys because once it’s unleashed they can’t control themselves.”
     
    In other words, ladies, if you're a cocktease you might get more than you bargained for. Several inches more.

    Replies: @donvonburg

    , @guest
    @eah

    "You still consentin', baby?...Ah yeah, gimme dat positive affirmation."

    - no one ever

    , @Joe Stalin
    @eah

    I thought women like the "Take charge of things" guys.

    , @ScarletNumber
    @eah

    I was hoping that this was a parody account a la Titiana McGrath, but alas, he seems sincere.

    , @J.Ross
    @eah

    Is a black man publicly calling for rape to be over-recognized stupid or reassured that this will only apply to whites?

    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    @eah

    Implied consent:

    When she starts calllllllin' my name...
    "Stroke it Bubba Goldstein, but don't stroke so fast..."

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7gMkiOPSeA

    , @Autochthon
    @eah

    https://youtu.be/7YTeiXVZMyY

  62. @Mr. Anon
    @prosa123

    Interesting, if true. Where did that come from?

    Replies: @prosa123, @prosa123, @prosa123

  63. @Mr. Anon
    @prosa123

    Interesting, if true. Where did that come from?

    Replies: @prosa123, @prosa123, @prosa123

  64. @Mr. Anon
    @prosa123

    Interesting, if true. Where did that come from?

    Replies: @prosa123, @prosa123, @prosa123

  65. @SunBakedSuburb
    @trelane

    "Joe's gettin' old."

    Joe is white cover for the Scary Stacey Abrams presidency. President Abrams will approach and perhaps eclipse the damage done by President Cheney.

    Replies: @Kevin O'Keeffe

    Joe is white cover for the Scary Stacey Abrams presidency. President Abrams will approach and perhaps eclipse the damage done by President Cheney.

    I don’t believe Ms. Abrams will ever become Vice-President of the USA, let alone President. But if I’m wrong, and she does ascend to the Oval Office, there will be civil war. Or a coup. Or something. People will die. The USA may well cease to exist.

  66. I’m disappointed you haven’t written about Congresswoman Katie Hill (D-25, Santa Clarita).

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @Laugh Track
    @ScarletNumber


    I’m disappointed you haven’t written about Congresswoman Katie Hill (D-25, Santa Clarita).
     
    Low hanging fruit covered sufficiently elsewhere. TheOtherMcCain.com says most of what's to be said in several posts.

    Replies: @Hail

  67. The Castro-Cisneros non-connection reminds me of Father Guido Sarducci’s Carter-Coolidge Coincidenza:

  68. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @eah
    OT

    #MeToo public service announcement.

    https://twitter.com/PrestonMitchum/status/1187410122429124608

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Joe Stalin, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Autochthon

    Big LMM was right. If a woman consents to sex, once things have firmed up she has to expect the normal course of action.

    “I have to be honest, I don’t give a f***,” she says, sounding as though she really doesn’t. “First I didn’t know, because I don’t read my press, but when I kept being questioned about it I said, ‘If you’re going to walk around in your underwear, drunk, you’re asking for it.’ And they really jumped on me for that. Because the idea in this climate of pseudo-empowerment is that no means no. Well, I have news for you, girls. A stiff dick means yes.”

    Surely she is not saying the bikers were in their rights to rape her? “What I’m saying is that women think men are in control all the time, but men are weaker than women. And don’t mess with these guys because once it’s unleashed they can’t control themselves.”

    In other words, ladies, if you’re a cocktease you might get more than you bargained for. Several inches more.

    • Replies: @donvonburg
    @Anonymous

    I'm curious as to your standard what a woman needs to do to clearly convey non-consent for sex. Do you require she wear a chastity belt or simply a sign saying "NO SEX"? When does she have a right to decide she doesn't want to have relations with you? Are you advocating for the Divine Right of Erections?

    That's a scary thought, really. Just because one odd and freemartinish woman seems to think it's okay, that doesn't apply to the rest of humanity. I bet if you applied that standard to her daughter (whom you seem to fancy) she'd decide that wasn't the done thing and you'd be in a lot of trouble; those Ohio women tend to be better shots than they let on.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  69. Anon[232] • Disclaimer says:

    OT: Congresswoman Katie Hill resigned:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/freshman-democrat-rep-katie-hill-resigns-amid-sex-scandal-ethics-probe

    She was in a swing district and was part of the Dem whip team. I am willing to bet that a harassed Pelosi threatened Hill within an inch of her life if she didn’t quit immediately to avoid damage to the Democratic brand. I’m sure Pelosi was frantic to get the seat back into safe Democratic hands instead of risking it in 2020 after a lengthy scandal within the party.

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @Anon


    She was in a swing district
     
    Wow, that's an understatement.
  70. @Kronos
    @Mr McKenna


    Dear God, that’s weird. How do you find these things? ( I won’t ask ‘why’… )
     
    The photo was in Caro’s book (my spellchecker messed his name up, thanks for pointing it out.)

    My favorite story was during Johnson’s school years at the teachers college. He convinced a (likely borderline retarded man) at school that cow shit could cure acne and acne scars. So he stuffed cow shot into tin foil and the retarded dude wore it like a mask for hours. Lyndon apparently got a lot of shit (hee hee) for pulling that by his fellow classmates. (This is in the Caro book.)

    The kissing thing just stands out as very odd and thus memorable. I also recall a really funny line in the film “Fat Man and Little Boy” (1989) (I’m just digging a hole for myself aren’t I?)

    Oppenheimer is being followed by the FBI. But he gives them the slip to visit his Communist mistress. He pretends to stay/visit his brother’s family. Anyway, while the FBI watch Oppenheimer say goodbye to his brother, they kiss on the lips. The FBI guy then says to his partner in the car:

    “He must be a Communist, he kissed his brother on the lips.”

    I don’t know if it’s a European thing, but it’s weird for sure. (Also, I’m disturbed my brain keeps track of this random crap and won’t make room for more accounting/math knowledge.)

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @prosa123, @Charles Erwin Wilson

    “He must be a Communist, he kissed his brother on the lips.”

    He was right. And LBJ is perhaps the greatest example of hubris inviting nemesis. I used to dismiss the conspiracy theory that the CIA murdered him in his dotage. But given what they have done with Trump, I am not so sure anymore.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Charles Erwin Wilson


    And LBJ is perhaps the greatest example of hubris inviting nemesis. I used to dismiss the conspiracy theory that the CIA murdered him in his dotage. But given what they have done with Trump, I am not so sure anymore.
     
    That's a new one to me. There is no doubt in my mind that LBJ and the CIA took out both Kennedys so maybe the CIA was worried about a senile LBJ talking.

    This is interesting about two military code operators who heard about the JFK assasination plot in advance.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49828.htm
  71. @Calvin Hobbes
    In other news involving the Bidens and the “Who’s your daddy?” Question:

    Hunter Biden agrees to DNA test to prove he didn’t father child with Arkansas woman

    https://pagesix.com/2019/10/22/hunter-biden-agrees-to-dna-test-to-prove-he-didnt-father-child-with-arkansas-woman/

    I’ll be very surprised if Hunter’s not the daddy.

    I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Hunter has no memory of being with this woman. She may be just one of many women he paid to have sex with, and he may have been on drugs at the time.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    No comment:

    The birth of the child came while Hunter was in a relationship with Hallie Biden, his late brother Beau’s wife.

  72. @Arclight
    The Democratic party's strategists have to be freaking out about who their frontrunners are at this point. Two of them could croak before the general election, and the third is an elitist scold that has no traction with the minority base they need to turn out.

    Trump is fortunate in his enemies.

    Replies: @El Dato, @fish, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    Two of them could croak before the general election, and the third is an elitist scold…

    Which of them, in your opinion, stands out among all the other elitist scolds on the stage?

  73. @Charles Erwin Wilson
    @Kronos


    “He must be a Communist, he kissed his brother on the lips.”
     
    He was right. And LBJ is perhaps the greatest example of hubris inviting nemesis. I used to dismiss the conspiracy theory that the CIA murdered him in his dotage. But given what they have done with Trump, I am not so sure anymore.

    Replies: @Flip

    And LBJ is perhaps the greatest example of hubris inviting nemesis. I used to dismiss the conspiracy theory that the CIA murdered him in his dotage. But given what they have done with Trump, I am not so sure anymore.

    That’s a new one to me. There is no doubt in my mind that LBJ and the CIA took out both Kennedys so maybe the CIA was worried about a senile LBJ talking.

    This is interesting about two military code operators who heard about the JFK assasination plot in advance.

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49828.htm

  74. @Arclight
    The Democratic party's strategists have to be freaking out about who their frontrunners are at this point. Two of them could croak before the general election, and the third is an elitist scold that has no traction with the minority base they need to turn out.

    Trump is fortunate in his enemies.

    Replies: @El Dato, @fish, @Desiderius, @Reg Cæsar, @MBlanc46

    And yet, he will still probably lose.

  75. @eah
    OT

    The US is going to need another wall.

    https://twitter.com/CI2100/status/1187398563065749505

    Replies: @Hail

    Solving the Canada Question:

    Canada Fragments—Is Alberta Secession Next?
    by Kevin Michael Grace • October 23, 2019 • 58 Comments

    (Among the most popular articles I’ve ever noticed at the Unz Review [by comment-count] not by a main author or blogger and not featured as an article of the day.)

    [MORE]

    Even though the secession of Alberta would mean the end of Canada, there is no returning to the past. Estimates put a non-white takeover of Canada happening at 2040 or even earlier. There is no guarantee that the newly-independent constituent parts of Canada would choose to reject suicide. But it would be nice for us to have that choice.

    Because make no mistake, without a breakup, our destiny is sealed.

  76. @eah
    OT

    #MeToo public service announcement.

    https://twitter.com/PrestonMitchum/status/1187410122429124608

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Joe Stalin, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Autochthon

    “You still consentin’, baby?…Ah yeah, gimme dat positive affirmation.”

    – no one ever

  77. @SunBakedSuburb
    @R.G. Camara

    "Hillary's Parkinson/alcohol issues"

    Just give the old girl some baby's blood and she'll be right as rain.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Stan Adams

    The summary of the disease lists several aspect of its epidemiology:


    Prevention: Avoid cannibalism
     
    Hilarious, despite – perhaps because of – it's solid "I shouldn't even have to tell you this shit!" aspect. Yet it makes me think of HIV and AIDS, which would be about as common as kuru if people followed the equally obvious proscription: "Prevention: Avoid cramming penises and tongues into others' rectums, especially those of a different stranger each week."
  78. @ScarletNumber
    I'm disappointed you haven't written about Congresswoman Katie Hill (D-25, Santa Clarita).

    Replies: @Laugh Track

    I’m disappointed you haven’t written about Congresswoman Katie Hill (D-25, Santa Clarita).

    Low hanging fruit covered sufficiently elsewhere. TheOtherMcCain.com says most of what’s to be said in several posts.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Laugh Track

    Thank you, I was not aware of TheOtherMcCain.com. I see they have a few posts on it:

    - "Naked Bisexual Democrat Update" (Oct. 23) -- followed-up from one-liner post titled ‘Naked Democratic Congresswoman’ (Oct. 21);

    - UPDATE: Naked Bisexual Democrat Is Also a Mentally Ill Drunk (Allegedly) (Oct. 24);

    - Naked Bisexual Democrat Katie Hill Announces Resignation from Congress (Oct. 27).

    So ends the Katie Hill saga?

    Replies: @Hail

  79. “issues many Democrats run away from”

  80. @Hail
    There was a time Julian Castro cracked the 1.5% mark on the RealClearPolitics national polling average for the D-Team nomination. That time is no more. (Now at 0.7%.)

    Even in Texas (March 3 primary), Castro has only polled 2-4%.

    __________

    Texas primary polling (RCP average, reflecting 4 polls conducted July to Sept.):

    - Biden 27%
    - Beto 17%
    - Warren 16%
    - Sanders 13%
    - Harris 7%
    - Buttigieg 4%
    - Castro 3%
    - Yang 2%
    - Klobuchar 2%

    So Beto could plausibly win Texas. But Castro will have dropped out long before.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    One must wonder how narcissistic these characters have to be to persist despite such dismal prospects; it’s like some like who cannot perform a paradiddle or sing in tune dropping out of school, convinced he will be the next Bill Bruford or Steve Perry….

  81. @Laugh Track
    @ScarletNumber


    I’m disappointed you haven’t written about Congresswoman Katie Hill (D-25, Santa Clarita).
     
    Low hanging fruit covered sufficiently elsewhere. TheOtherMcCain.com says most of what's to be said in several posts.

    Replies: @Hail

    Thank you, I was not aware of TheOtherMcCain.com. I see they have a few posts on it:

    – “Naked Bisexual Democrat Update” (Oct. 23) — followed-up from one-liner post titled ‘Naked Democratic Congresswoman’ (Oct. 21);

    UPDATE: Naked Bisexual Democrat Is Also a Mentally Ill Drunk (Allegedly) (Oct. 24);

    Naked Bisexual Democrat Katie Hill Announces Resignation from Congress (Oct. 27).

    So ends the Katie Hill saga?

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Hail


    the Katie Hill saga
     
    I'd think Steve might have something to say since the Katie Hill story is pretty close to home. Katie Hill's 25th district is adjacent to his own district -- the 30th, represented by Brad Sherman, about whom he occasionally blogs.

    Katie Hill is a product of the northern fringe of LA. She was a high school student in nearby Santa Clarita when Steve moved back to California in 2001.

    Below is the Katie Hill Saga in timeline form, her life up to the present (age 32); a dramatic arc ending in defeat (for now) due to her tragic flaw of loose sexuality mixed with power and possibly frustrated maternal instincts (unable to give birth).

    _____________


    Katherine Lauren (Katie) Hill

    - born Aug. 1987; raised in Southern California by middle class, White family (mother, registered nurse; father, policeman);

    - June 2004: Graduates from Saugus High School, Santa Clarita, California;

    - Summer 2004 through end of 2009: Whereabouts unclear, but at least some of this time is earning some college credit; presumably she is largely or entirely hanging around SoCal at this time;

    - Late 2005 or 2006: Katie Hill becomes pregnant by boyfriend Kenny Heslep; according to her characterization of events (CNN interview, May 17, 2019), she was considering aborting the fetus but then had a miscarriage anyway; a complication in the miscarriage means she is now never able to give birth;

    - early 2010: Katie starts at People Assisting the Homeless (PATH), a Los Angeles-based group where she remains through 2018, rising to a top leadership position therein and making $180,000/year by 2018;

    - June 2010: Marries Kenny Heslep, artist;

    - 2011: Graduates with BA in English, Cal State-Northridge [San Fernando Valley];

    - 2014: Graduates with MPA in Public Sector Management, Cal State-Northridge; about this time she also arranges for employment at PATH for her out-of-work husband;

    - March 2017: Declares intention to run for US Congress in Southern California, and campaign staff begins to assemble; Katie Hill, her husband Kenny Heslep, and a Katie Hill for Congress female campaign staffer allegedly begin an ongoing three-way sexual relationship circa late 2017;

    - June 5, 2018: Katie Hill secures a place in the November general election by defeating three Democratic primary challengers, 21-18-6-3. The second-place Democrat in the primary (18%) was Bryan Caforio [born ca. 1983] (BA, UCLA, Pol. Science, 2005; JD, Yale Law, 2008);

    - Nov. 2018: Wins seat in US Congress from California's 25th District (54-46, against incumbent Republican),


    after what she dubbed 'the most millennial campaign ever,' due to her age, tireless work for the homeless and LGBTQ rights (she identifies as bisexual) and her scrappy, grassroots campaign run primarily by 20-somethings.
     
    (Note: California-25 -- "Northern Los Angeles including Palmdale and Santa Clarita, northeastern Ventura including Simi Valley" -- was a 65-35 Republican district in the 2000s, and a 55-45 Republican district in the 2010s; its dipping to 46% R votes in Nov. 2018 was attributed to the anti-Trump wave, and thus was Hill, a woman without previous non-homeless-activism experience, elected);

    - June 2019: Katie Hill's husband Kenny Heslep files for divorce citing infidelity; asks Los Angeles court to force Hill to provide him spousal support;

    - Oct. 2019: Details of Katie Hill's bisexual relationships with several male and female campaign staffers emerge; photos and lurid text messages; evidence that she misused funds at her previous job also surfaces; she is mocked on Fox News and right-wing media and resigns a week later.

    Final note: Video of Katie Hill, both in House floor speeches and informally, shows she does NOT speak with vocal fry.

    Katie Hill (left) with husband (right):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH8s4fRVUAMhedN.png

    Replies: @kihowi, @Justvisiting, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Hail

  82. @Hail
    @Laugh Track

    Thank you, I was not aware of TheOtherMcCain.com. I see they have a few posts on it:

    - "Naked Bisexual Democrat Update" (Oct. 23) -- followed-up from one-liner post titled ‘Naked Democratic Congresswoman’ (Oct. 21);

    - UPDATE: Naked Bisexual Democrat Is Also a Mentally Ill Drunk (Allegedly) (Oct. 24);

    - Naked Bisexual Democrat Katie Hill Announces Resignation from Congress (Oct. 27).

    So ends the Katie Hill saga?

    Replies: @Hail

    the Katie Hill saga

    I’d think Steve might have something to say since the Katie Hill story is pretty close to home. Katie Hill’s 25th district is adjacent to his own district — the 30th, represented by Brad Sherman, about whom he occasionally blogs.

    Katie Hill is a product of the northern fringe of LA. She was a high school student in nearby Santa Clarita when Steve moved back to California in 2001.

    Below is the Katie Hill Saga in timeline form, her life up to the present (age 32); a dramatic arc ending in defeat (for now) due to her tragic flaw of loose sexuality mixed with power and possibly frustrated maternal instincts (unable to give birth).

    _____________

    Katherine Lauren (Katie) Hill

    – born Aug. 1987; raised in Southern California by middle class, White family (mother, registered nurse; father, policeman);

    June 2004: Graduates from Saugus High School, Santa Clarita, California;

    Summer 2004 through end of 2009: Whereabouts unclear, but at least some of this time is earning some college credit; presumably she is largely or entirely hanging around SoCal at this time;

    Late 2005 or 2006: Katie Hill becomes pregnant by boyfriend Kenny Heslep; according to her characterization of events (CNN interview, May 17, 2019), she was considering aborting the fetus but then had a miscarriage anyway; a complication in the miscarriage means she is now never able to give birth;

    early 2010: Katie starts at People Assisting the Homeless (PATH), a Los Angeles-based group where she remains through 2018, rising to a top leadership position therein and making $180,000/year by 2018;

    June 2010: Marries Kenny Heslep, artist;

    2011: Graduates with BA in English, Cal State-Northridge [San Fernando Valley];

    2014: Graduates with MPA in Public Sector Management, Cal State-Northridge; about this time she also arranges for employment at PATH for her out-of-work husband;

    March 2017: Declares intention to run for US Congress in Southern California, and campaign staff begins to assemble; Katie Hill, her husband Kenny Heslep, and a Katie Hill for Congress female campaign staffer allegedly begin an ongoing three-way sexual relationship circa late 2017;

    [MORE]

    June 5, 2018: Katie Hill secures a place in the November general election by defeating three Democratic primary challengers, 21-18-6-3. The second-place Democrat in the primary (18%) was Bryan Caforio [born ca. 1983] (BA, UCLA, Pol. Science, 2005; JD, Yale Law, 2008);

    Nov. 2018: Wins seat in US Congress from California’s 25th District (54-46, against incumbent Republican),

    after what she dubbed ‘the most millennial campaign ever,’ due to her age, tireless work for the homeless and LGBTQ rights (she identifies as bisexual) and her scrappy, grassroots campaign run primarily by 20-somethings.

    (Note: California-25 — “Northern Los Angeles including Palmdale and Santa Clarita, northeastern Ventura including Simi Valley” — was a 65-35 Republican district in the 2000s, and a 55-45 Republican district in the 2010s; its dipping to 46% R votes in Nov. 2018 was attributed to the anti-Trump wave, and thus was Hill, a woman without previous non-homeless-activism experience, elected);

    June 2019: Katie Hill’s husband Kenny Heslep files for divorce citing infidelity; asks Los Angeles court to force Hill to provide him spousal support;

    Oct. 2019: Details of Katie Hill’s bisexual relationships with several male and female campaign staffers emerge; photos and lurid text messages; evidence that she misused funds at her previous job also surfaces; she is mocked on Fox News and right-wing media and resigns a week later.

    Final note: Video of Katie Hill, both in House floor speeches and informally, shows she does NOT speak with vocal fry.

    Katie Hill (left) with husband (right):

    • Replies: @kihowi
    @Hail


    born Aug. 1987
     
    Oh god. Old men will talk about the shocking moment you realize police officers are younger than you. They're wrong; it's actually politicians.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @Justvisiting
    @Hail

    Fascinating timeline.

    She is a fractal version of our civilization.

    Great start in life with excellent opportunities.

    Instead of choosing the conventional path to success she goes for the weird boyfriend and lifestyle.

    The miscarriage--great symbol of our times.

    Gets a great job exploiting the homeless (doing well by "doing good"). The homeless crisis in metro LA gets _much_ worse under her stewardship.

    Bisexual--and considers it a virtue that makes her "special".

    Virtue signaling voters elect her to Congress.

    Power goes to her head and she goes full Swamp retard with sexual adventures.

    She gets caught (more details on how would be interesting).

    Democratic leadership realize this could lead to losing the seat in 2020 so they make her go away.

    She learned the hard way: The purpose of power is power (George Orwell).

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Hail

    According to CSUN today, Hill's grandfather's was a professor of political science at UCLA.

    She also attended College of the Canyons before transferring to CSUN.

    , @J.Ross
    @Hail

    These are the people who wanted Trump out of office because of a laughable unverified anonymous claim about Russian compromise via urination videos. Surrendering without a fight over something entirely too many women of the same generation have done anyway.
    Oh by the way, remember how Hillary and McCain had that walkable foot cast thing? Now McCain's widow Cindy is wearing it. Honk honk.

    Replies: @Hail

    , @Hail
    @Hail

    A few more details of interest --

    Noted also by ScarletNumber above, Katie Hill has some elite-educational ancestry via her b.1936 grandfather who was a Princeton PhD in Political Science; this grandfather was also of Oklahoma origin, suggesting he was really bright, to have made it from humble origins to Princeton. Katie is the fourth person in her family tree to have graduated from Cal State-Northridge, beginning with her grandmother.

    Her grandfather relocated to Southern California in the late 1960s and had a long career at the UCLA Political Science department where he appears to have been popular.

    Katie Hill's mother appears to have been married several times.

    On Katie Hill's father: Another parallel to Steve Sailer, besides the geographic proximity, is that public records say Katie Hill's father was born in Nov. 1958, which is within a few weeks of Steve Sailer.

    Here is the publicly available info I tracked down on Katie Hill's parents and grandparents:

    _____________

    Parents of Katie Hill:

    - Mike Hill (b. Nov. 1958?), a police officer; he earned a BA in Organizational Systems Management from Cal State-Northridge, '98, the same school from which his mother-in-law graduated and also from which his daughter Katie Hill would later earn two degrees (2010s). Mike Hill was quoted in the local California media in June 2018 (when Katie Hill was headed for her primary win) as follows: "Mike Hill, the candidate’s father, grills hamburgers. He’s proud of her and how she ran a positive campaign. A Republican, he says he has influenced her on the need for fiscal responsibility, and she has changed his views on health care."

    - Rachel Stevenson (b. March 1964 in New Jersey during father's PhD studies), born Rachel Campbell, resident of California from ca. late 1960s to present; a registered nurse; Rachel may have been married three times -- to Mike Hill (two daughters) in the 1980s and 1990s, a Brett Bennett (one son) about late 1990s to 2000s, and apparently most recently to a Paul Stevenson, which is the name she was using when she appeared in the press several times in the 2010s (these names are all from her father's obituary). Through Rachel's second husband, Katie Hill has a half-brother named Danny Bennett (born circa 2000) who was inducted into the US Navy in Aug. 2019, as tweeted by then-Rep. Katie Hill).

    _____________

    Grandparents of Katie Hill:

    - [Grandfather] Hill
    - [Grandmother]
    (I find no further info on father's side)

    - Blair Campbell, UCLA Professor of Political Science (1936-2011; born in Muskogee, Oklahoma, a place made famous by Merle Haggard's early-1970s hit "Okie from Muskogee;" raised in Allen, Oklahoma), a US Army veteran (perhaps a draftee in the 1950s, must have gotten out asap), Princeton PhD circa the late 1960s, and UCLA professor as of the 1970s and into the 2000s. His parents were Edward Campbell (of Wagoner, Oklahoma; age 25 in Feb. 1936) and Janice Blalock (of Clayton, Oklahoma; age 20 in Feb. 1936), who married in Arkansas, Feb. 13, 1936; their son Blair was born Aug. 22, 1936, 6.5 months later). Professor Campbell had one daughter, Rachel (see above), through whom he had three grandchildren including ex-Rep. Katie Hill. Katie has told an interviewer in 2018: "My grandfather, who was a poli sci professor at UCLA, was a huge influence in my life."

    - Sarah Gault, married before 1964, living with husband Blair Campbell during the latter's Political Science doctoral studies at Princeton, which is where their (only) daughter Rachel was born, before moving to SoCal circa the late 1960s. Sarah later took a BA in Anthropology from Cal State-Northridge ('71), when her husband was a UCLA professor and her daughter was elementary-school age. Information in Rachel's birth announcement in a local Oklahoma newspaper suggests Sarah (nee Gault) Campbell's parents were Earl Glenn Fault (1911-1960) of Arkansas and (likely) Mary Alice Shandy (1914-1999) (of Oklahoma?).

    Not sure what became of Sarah, but she is not mentioned in Blair's 2011 obituary, nor does she appear in any of the family pictures the family put online to celebrate his memory. A relatively early death, or a highly unamicable divorce?

    Then-UCLA Professor Blair Campbell with daughter Rachel, early 1980s, California:

    https://d5nffgciuchtn.cloudfront.net/as/assets-mem-com/cmi/3/2/9/4/4864923/20111031_211315_6_orig.jpg/-/lytle-campbell-newhall-ca-photos13.jpg

    With granddaughters, including Katie Hill, early or mid 1990s:

    https://d5nffgciuchtn.cloudfront.net/as/assets-mem-com/cmi/3/2/9/4/4864923/20111031_211742_12_orig.jpg/-/lytle-campbell-newhall-ca-photos46.jpg

  83. @Hail
    @Hail


    the Katie Hill saga
     
    I'd think Steve might have something to say since the Katie Hill story is pretty close to home. Katie Hill's 25th district is adjacent to his own district -- the 30th, represented by Brad Sherman, about whom he occasionally blogs.

    Katie Hill is a product of the northern fringe of LA. She was a high school student in nearby Santa Clarita when Steve moved back to California in 2001.

    Below is the Katie Hill Saga in timeline form, her life up to the present (age 32); a dramatic arc ending in defeat (for now) due to her tragic flaw of loose sexuality mixed with power and possibly frustrated maternal instincts (unable to give birth).

    _____________


    Katherine Lauren (Katie) Hill

    - born Aug. 1987; raised in Southern California by middle class, White family (mother, registered nurse; father, policeman);

    - June 2004: Graduates from Saugus High School, Santa Clarita, California;

    - Summer 2004 through end of 2009: Whereabouts unclear, but at least some of this time is earning some college credit; presumably she is largely or entirely hanging around SoCal at this time;

    - Late 2005 or 2006: Katie Hill becomes pregnant by boyfriend Kenny Heslep; according to her characterization of events (CNN interview, May 17, 2019), she was considering aborting the fetus but then had a miscarriage anyway; a complication in the miscarriage means she is now never able to give birth;

    - early 2010: Katie starts at People Assisting the Homeless (PATH), a Los Angeles-based group where she remains through 2018, rising to a top leadership position therein and making $180,000/year by 2018;

    - June 2010: Marries Kenny Heslep, artist;

    - 2011: Graduates with BA in English, Cal State-Northridge [San Fernando Valley];

    - 2014: Graduates with MPA in Public Sector Management, Cal State-Northridge; about this time she also arranges for employment at PATH for her out-of-work husband;

    - March 2017: Declares intention to run for US Congress in Southern California, and campaign staff begins to assemble; Katie Hill, her husband Kenny Heslep, and a Katie Hill for Congress female campaign staffer allegedly begin an ongoing three-way sexual relationship circa late 2017;

    - June 5, 2018: Katie Hill secures a place in the November general election by defeating three Democratic primary challengers, 21-18-6-3. The second-place Democrat in the primary (18%) was Bryan Caforio [born ca. 1983] (BA, UCLA, Pol. Science, 2005; JD, Yale Law, 2008);

    - Nov. 2018: Wins seat in US Congress from California's 25th District (54-46, against incumbent Republican),


    after what she dubbed 'the most millennial campaign ever,' due to her age, tireless work for the homeless and LGBTQ rights (she identifies as bisexual) and her scrappy, grassroots campaign run primarily by 20-somethings.
     
    (Note: California-25 -- "Northern Los Angeles including Palmdale and Santa Clarita, northeastern Ventura including Simi Valley" -- was a 65-35 Republican district in the 2000s, and a 55-45 Republican district in the 2010s; its dipping to 46% R votes in Nov. 2018 was attributed to the anti-Trump wave, and thus was Hill, a woman without previous non-homeless-activism experience, elected);

    - June 2019: Katie Hill's husband Kenny Heslep files for divorce citing infidelity; asks Los Angeles court to force Hill to provide him spousal support;

    - Oct. 2019: Details of Katie Hill's bisexual relationships with several male and female campaign staffers emerge; photos and lurid text messages; evidence that she misused funds at her previous job also surfaces; she is mocked on Fox News and right-wing media and resigns a week later.

    Final note: Video of Katie Hill, both in House floor speeches and informally, shows she does NOT speak with vocal fry.

    Katie Hill (left) with husband (right):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH8s4fRVUAMhedN.png

    Replies: @kihowi, @Justvisiting, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Hail

    born Aug. 1987

    Oh god. Old men will talk about the shocking moment you realize police officers are younger than you. They’re wrong; it’s actually politicians.

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @kihowi

    Yeah, I had that same reaction. And I’m only a few years older than her.

    Did she skip a year of school? If she was born in August 1987, she would have been 16 in June 2004.

    I have a mid-August birthday and turned five a couple of weeks before starting kindergarten, so I graduated from high school at 17.

    Replies: @Hail

  84. @Hail
    @Hail


    the Katie Hill saga
     
    I'd think Steve might have something to say since the Katie Hill story is pretty close to home. Katie Hill's 25th district is adjacent to his own district -- the 30th, represented by Brad Sherman, about whom he occasionally blogs.

    Katie Hill is a product of the northern fringe of LA. She was a high school student in nearby Santa Clarita when Steve moved back to California in 2001.

    Below is the Katie Hill Saga in timeline form, her life up to the present (age 32); a dramatic arc ending in defeat (for now) due to her tragic flaw of loose sexuality mixed with power and possibly frustrated maternal instincts (unable to give birth).

    _____________


    Katherine Lauren (Katie) Hill

    - born Aug. 1987; raised in Southern California by middle class, White family (mother, registered nurse; father, policeman);

    - June 2004: Graduates from Saugus High School, Santa Clarita, California;

    - Summer 2004 through end of 2009: Whereabouts unclear, but at least some of this time is earning some college credit; presumably she is largely or entirely hanging around SoCal at this time;

    - Late 2005 or 2006: Katie Hill becomes pregnant by boyfriend Kenny Heslep; according to her characterization of events (CNN interview, May 17, 2019), she was considering aborting the fetus but then had a miscarriage anyway; a complication in the miscarriage means she is now never able to give birth;

    - early 2010: Katie starts at People Assisting the Homeless (PATH), a Los Angeles-based group where she remains through 2018, rising to a top leadership position therein and making $180,000/year by 2018;

    - June 2010: Marries Kenny Heslep, artist;

    - 2011: Graduates with BA in English, Cal State-Northridge [San Fernando Valley];

    - 2014: Graduates with MPA in Public Sector Management, Cal State-Northridge; about this time she also arranges for employment at PATH for her out-of-work husband;

    - March 2017: Declares intention to run for US Congress in Southern California, and campaign staff begins to assemble; Katie Hill, her husband Kenny Heslep, and a Katie Hill for Congress female campaign staffer allegedly begin an ongoing three-way sexual relationship circa late 2017;

    - June 5, 2018: Katie Hill secures a place in the November general election by defeating three Democratic primary challengers, 21-18-6-3. The second-place Democrat in the primary (18%) was Bryan Caforio [born ca. 1983] (BA, UCLA, Pol. Science, 2005; JD, Yale Law, 2008);

    - Nov. 2018: Wins seat in US Congress from California's 25th District (54-46, against incumbent Republican),


    after what she dubbed 'the most millennial campaign ever,' due to her age, tireless work for the homeless and LGBTQ rights (she identifies as bisexual) and her scrappy, grassroots campaign run primarily by 20-somethings.
     
    (Note: California-25 -- "Northern Los Angeles including Palmdale and Santa Clarita, northeastern Ventura including Simi Valley" -- was a 65-35 Republican district in the 2000s, and a 55-45 Republican district in the 2010s; its dipping to 46% R votes in Nov. 2018 was attributed to the anti-Trump wave, and thus was Hill, a woman without previous non-homeless-activism experience, elected);

    - June 2019: Katie Hill's husband Kenny Heslep files for divorce citing infidelity; asks Los Angeles court to force Hill to provide him spousal support;

    - Oct. 2019: Details of Katie Hill's bisexual relationships with several male and female campaign staffers emerge; photos and lurid text messages; evidence that she misused funds at her previous job also surfaces; she is mocked on Fox News and right-wing media and resigns a week later.

    Final note: Video of Katie Hill, both in House floor speeches and informally, shows she does NOT speak with vocal fry.

    Katie Hill (left) with husband (right):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH8s4fRVUAMhedN.png

    Replies: @kihowi, @Justvisiting, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Hail

    Fascinating timeline.

    She is a fractal version of our civilization.

    Great start in life with excellent opportunities.

    Instead of choosing the conventional path to success she goes for the weird boyfriend and lifestyle.

    The miscarriage–great symbol of our times.

    Gets a great job exploiting the homeless (doing well by “doing good”). The homeless crisis in metro LA gets _much_ worse under her stewardship.

    Bisexual–and considers it a virtue that makes her “special”.

    Virtue signaling voters elect her to Congress.

    Power goes to her head and she goes full Swamp retard with sexual adventures.

    She gets caught (more details on how would be interesting).

    Democratic leadership realize this could lead to losing the seat in 2020 so they make her go away.

    She learned the hard way: The purpose of power is power (George Orwell).

    • Agree: Hail
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Justvisiting


    She is a fractal version of our civilization.
     
    You left out her serious case of tranny bod.

    Go look at her bong + Iron Cross tattoo photo again. That is not a normal, feminine figure by any stretch.

    Replies: @Hail

  85. @eah
    OT

    #MeToo public service announcement.

    https://twitter.com/PrestonMitchum/status/1187410122429124608

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Joe Stalin, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Autochthon

    I thought women like the “Take charge of things” guys.

  86. @Anon
    OT: Congresswoman Katie Hill resigned:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/freshman-democrat-rep-katie-hill-resigns-amid-sex-scandal-ethics-probe

    She was in a swing district and was part of the Dem whip team. I am willing to bet that a harassed Pelosi threatened Hill within an inch of her life if she didn't quit immediately to avoid damage to the Democratic brand. I'm sure Pelosi was frantic to get the seat back into safe Democratic hands instead of risking it in 2020 after a lengthy scandal within the party.

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    She was in a swing district

    Wow, that’s an understatement.

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
  87. @eah
    OT

    #MeToo public service announcement.

    https://twitter.com/PrestonMitchum/status/1187410122429124608

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Joe Stalin, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Autochthon

    I was hoping that this was a parody account a la Titiana McGrath, but alas, he seems sincere.

  88. @Hail
    @Hail


    the Katie Hill saga
     
    I'd think Steve might have something to say since the Katie Hill story is pretty close to home. Katie Hill's 25th district is adjacent to his own district -- the 30th, represented by Brad Sherman, about whom he occasionally blogs.

    Katie Hill is a product of the northern fringe of LA. She was a high school student in nearby Santa Clarita when Steve moved back to California in 2001.

    Below is the Katie Hill Saga in timeline form, her life up to the present (age 32); a dramatic arc ending in defeat (for now) due to her tragic flaw of loose sexuality mixed with power and possibly frustrated maternal instincts (unable to give birth).

    _____________


    Katherine Lauren (Katie) Hill

    - born Aug. 1987; raised in Southern California by middle class, White family (mother, registered nurse; father, policeman);

    - June 2004: Graduates from Saugus High School, Santa Clarita, California;

    - Summer 2004 through end of 2009: Whereabouts unclear, but at least some of this time is earning some college credit; presumably she is largely or entirely hanging around SoCal at this time;

    - Late 2005 or 2006: Katie Hill becomes pregnant by boyfriend Kenny Heslep; according to her characterization of events (CNN interview, May 17, 2019), she was considering aborting the fetus but then had a miscarriage anyway; a complication in the miscarriage means she is now never able to give birth;

    - early 2010: Katie starts at People Assisting the Homeless (PATH), a Los Angeles-based group where she remains through 2018, rising to a top leadership position therein and making $180,000/year by 2018;

    - June 2010: Marries Kenny Heslep, artist;

    - 2011: Graduates with BA in English, Cal State-Northridge [San Fernando Valley];

    - 2014: Graduates with MPA in Public Sector Management, Cal State-Northridge; about this time she also arranges for employment at PATH for her out-of-work husband;

    - March 2017: Declares intention to run for US Congress in Southern California, and campaign staff begins to assemble; Katie Hill, her husband Kenny Heslep, and a Katie Hill for Congress female campaign staffer allegedly begin an ongoing three-way sexual relationship circa late 2017;

    - June 5, 2018: Katie Hill secures a place in the November general election by defeating three Democratic primary challengers, 21-18-6-3. The second-place Democrat in the primary (18%) was Bryan Caforio [born ca. 1983] (BA, UCLA, Pol. Science, 2005; JD, Yale Law, 2008);

    - Nov. 2018: Wins seat in US Congress from California's 25th District (54-46, against incumbent Republican),


    after what she dubbed 'the most millennial campaign ever,' due to her age, tireless work for the homeless and LGBTQ rights (she identifies as bisexual) and her scrappy, grassroots campaign run primarily by 20-somethings.
     
    (Note: California-25 -- "Northern Los Angeles including Palmdale and Santa Clarita, northeastern Ventura including Simi Valley" -- was a 65-35 Republican district in the 2000s, and a 55-45 Republican district in the 2010s; its dipping to 46% R votes in Nov. 2018 was attributed to the anti-Trump wave, and thus was Hill, a woman without previous non-homeless-activism experience, elected);

    - June 2019: Katie Hill's husband Kenny Heslep files for divorce citing infidelity; asks Los Angeles court to force Hill to provide him spousal support;

    - Oct. 2019: Details of Katie Hill's bisexual relationships with several male and female campaign staffers emerge; photos and lurid text messages; evidence that she misused funds at her previous job also surfaces; she is mocked on Fox News and right-wing media and resigns a week later.

    Final note: Video of Katie Hill, both in House floor speeches and informally, shows she does NOT speak with vocal fry.

    Katie Hill (left) with husband (right):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH8s4fRVUAMhedN.png

    Replies: @kihowi, @Justvisiting, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Hail

    According to CSUN today, Hill’s grandfather’s was a professor of political science at UCLA.

    She also attended College of the Canyons before transferring to CSUN.

    • Agree: Hail
  89. @Hail
    @Hail


    the Katie Hill saga
     
    I'd think Steve might have something to say since the Katie Hill story is pretty close to home. Katie Hill's 25th district is adjacent to his own district -- the 30th, represented by Brad Sherman, about whom he occasionally blogs.

    Katie Hill is a product of the northern fringe of LA. She was a high school student in nearby Santa Clarita when Steve moved back to California in 2001.

    Below is the Katie Hill Saga in timeline form, her life up to the present (age 32); a dramatic arc ending in defeat (for now) due to her tragic flaw of loose sexuality mixed with power and possibly frustrated maternal instincts (unable to give birth).

    _____________


    Katherine Lauren (Katie) Hill

    - born Aug. 1987; raised in Southern California by middle class, White family (mother, registered nurse; father, policeman);

    - June 2004: Graduates from Saugus High School, Santa Clarita, California;

    - Summer 2004 through end of 2009: Whereabouts unclear, but at least some of this time is earning some college credit; presumably she is largely or entirely hanging around SoCal at this time;

    - Late 2005 or 2006: Katie Hill becomes pregnant by boyfriend Kenny Heslep; according to her characterization of events (CNN interview, May 17, 2019), she was considering aborting the fetus but then had a miscarriage anyway; a complication in the miscarriage means she is now never able to give birth;

    - early 2010: Katie starts at People Assisting the Homeless (PATH), a Los Angeles-based group where she remains through 2018, rising to a top leadership position therein and making $180,000/year by 2018;

    - June 2010: Marries Kenny Heslep, artist;

    - 2011: Graduates with BA in English, Cal State-Northridge [San Fernando Valley];

    - 2014: Graduates with MPA in Public Sector Management, Cal State-Northridge; about this time she also arranges for employment at PATH for her out-of-work husband;

    - March 2017: Declares intention to run for US Congress in Southern California, and campaign staff begins to assemble; Katie Hill, her husband Kenny Heslep, and a Katie Hill for Congress female campaign staffer allegedly begin an ongoing three-way sexual relationship circa late 2017;

    - June 5, 2018: Katie Hill secures a place in the November general election by defeating three Democratic primary challengers, 21-18-6-3. The second-place Democrat in the primary (18%) was Bryan Caforio [born ca. 1983] (BA, UCLA, Pol. Science, 2005; JD, Yale Law, 2008);

    - Nov. 2018: Wins seat in US Congress from California's 25th District (54-46, against incumbent Republican),


    after what she dubbed 'the most millennial campaign ever,' due to her age, tireless work for the homeless and LGBTQ rights (she identifies as bisexual) and her scrappy, grassroots campaign run primarily by 20-somethings.
     
    (Note: California-25 -- "Northern Los Angeles including Palmdale and Santa Clarita, northeastern Ventura including Simi Valley" -- was a 65-35 Republican district in the 2000s, and a 55-45 Republican district in the 2010s; its dipping to 46% R votes in Nov. 2018 was attributed to the anti-Trump wave, and thus was Hill, a woman without previous non-homeless-activism experience, elected);

    - June 2019: Katie Hill's husband Kenny Heslep files for divorce citing infidelity; asks Los Angeles court to force Hill to provide him spousal support;

    - Oct. 2019: Details of Katie Hill's bisexual relationships with several male and female campaign staffers emerge; photos and lurid text messages; evidence that she misused funds at her previous job also surfaces; she is mocked on Fox News and right-wing media and resigns a week later.

    Final note: Video of Katie Hill, both in House floor speeches and informally, shows she does NOT speak with vocal fry.

    Katie Hill (left) with husband (right):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH8s4fRVUAMhedN.png

    Replies: @kihowi, @Justvisiting, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Hail

    These are the people who wanted Trump out of office because of a laughable unverified anonymous claim about Russian compromise via urination videos. Surrendering without a fight over something entirely too many women of the same generation have done anyway.
    Oh by the way, remember how Hillary and McCain had that walkable foot cast thing? Now McCain’s widow Cindy is wearing it. Honk honk.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @J.Ross

    Your comment reminds me of the Jeffrey Epstein case -- which is now well and truly completely out of the news (as planned, a cynic would say...), whereas it'd have been regularly in the news for years had he not conveniently died.

    Whoever discovered these "wife sharing" pics, which may have set off the scandal (not sure on this), whoever it was sent (sold?) them to right-wing media. Imagine if, instead, they'd tried a political blackmail attempt.

    What if, further, the blackmailer asked for no money, in fact asked for nothing? except an implied request to stay on the reservation on certain political questions. It would start to look like an intelligence operation. (This was, I believe, Philip Giraldi's hypothesis on what was most likely going on with the Epstein ring.)

    Replies: @J.Ross

  90. @eah
    OT

    #MeToo public service announcement.

    https://twitter.com/PrestonMitchum/status/1187410122429124608

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Joe Stalin, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Autochthon

    Is a black man publicly calling for rape to be over-recognized stupid or reassured that this will only apply to whites?

  91. @Justvisiting
    @Hail

    Fascinating timeline.

    She is a fractal version of our civilization.

    Great start in life with excellent opportunities.

    Instead of choosing the conventional path to success she goes for the weird boyfriend and lifestyle.

    The miscarriage--great symbol of our times.

    Gets a great job exploiting the homeless (doing well by "doing good"). The homeless crisis in metro LA gets _much_ worse under her stewardship.

    Bisexual--and considers it a virtue that makes her "special".

    Virtue signaling voters elect her to Congress.

    Power goes to her head and she goes full Swamp retard with sexual adventures.

    She gets caught (more details on how would be interesting).

    Democratic leadership realize this could lead to losing the seat in 2020 so they make her go away.

    She learned the hard way: The purpose of power is power (George Orwell).

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    She is a fractal version of our civilization.

    You left out her serious case of tranny bod.

    Go look at her bong + Iron Cross tattoo photo again. That is not a normal, feminine figure by any stretch.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The Daily Mail on Katie Hill's bikini-line tattoo:


    Shocking photographs of Democrat Katie Hill posing naked with a tattoo of...an Iron Cross on her bikini line while smoking a bong and making out with her young female aide
     

    the ADL does note the 'Iron Cross in isolation (i.e., without a superimposed swastika or without other accompanying hate symbols) cannot be determined to be a hate symbol,' because bikers, skateboarders and extreme sports enthusiasts frequently use the symbol.
     

    Hill and Heslep also posted her naked photos online under a thread called 'WouldYouF**kMyWife'.
     
    The Daily Mail article of Oct. 24 on the Katie Hill saga bore a characteristically long headline with four elements crammed into to it: (1) "Nazi-era tattoo," (2) "smoking a bong," (3) "kissing her female staffer," (4) "'wife-sharing' sites." The URL version of the headline is: "Katie Hill Seen Showing Nazi-era Tattoo, Smoking BONG, NAKED."

    They chose to lead with by far the most dubious and really tamest of the four, which they rather dishonestly call a "Nazi-era tattoo." The wife-sharing and all, relegated to second-tier importance.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  92. @Ano
    @Kronos

    If Biden is just too doddery to carry on campaigning, why not substitute a younger doppelganger- or near double? (I remember people accused Hillary of employing a double in 2016.)
    For instance, couldn't the DNC ask their loyal water-carrier Anderson Cooper to take over, passing himself off as Creepy Joe- at least up until election day?

    (There's no risk of Anderson sniffing women.)

    How much plastic surgery/Hollywood special effects make-up would it take to fool 50%+1?

    Oh, speaking of hot man-on-man lip-kissing...

    https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/10/joe-bidens-weird-gay-acting-cnn-lgbtq-town-hall.html

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Twodees Partain

    You may remember the Hillary double who appeared on the street in front of Chelsea’s building after Hillary had collapsed at the 911 memorial service. That really was a double, IMO. She looked a little like Hillary, but she moved like someone 20 years younger. Her voice also lacked the grating tone that Hillary’s voice has always had.

  93. @Hail
    @Hail


    the Katie Hill saga
     
    I'd think Steve might have something to say since the Katie Hill story is pretty close to home. Katie Hill's 25th district is adjacent to his own district -- the 30th, represented by Brad Sherman, about whom he occasionally blogs.

    Katie Hill is a product of the northern fringe of LA. She was a high school student in nearby Santa Clarita when Steve moved back to California in 2001.

    Below is the Katie Hill Saga in timeline form, her life up to the present (age 32); a dramatic arc ending in defeat (for now) due to her tragic flaw of loose sexuality mixed with power and possibly frustrated maternal instincts (unable to give birth).

    _____________


    Katherine Lauren (Katie) Hill

    - born Aug. 1987; raised in Southern California by middle class, White family (mother, registered nurse; father, policeman);

    - June 2004: Graduates from Saugus High School, Santa Clarita, California;

    - Summer 2004 through end of 2009: Whereabouts unclear, but at least some of this time is earning some college credit; presumably she is largely or entirely hanging around SoCal at this time;

    - Late 2005 or 2006: Katie Hill becomes pregnant by boyfriend Kenny Heslep; according to her characterization of events (CNN interview, May 17, 2019), she was considering aborting the fetus but then had a miscarriage anyway; a complication in the miscarriage means she is now never able to give birth;

    - early 2010: Katie starts at People Assisting the Homeless (PATH), a Los Angeles-based group where she remains through 2018, rising to a top leadership position therein and making $180,000/year by 2018;

    - June 2010: Marries Kenny Heslep, artist;

    - 2011: Graduates with BA in English, Cal State-Northridge [San Fernando Valley];

    - 2014: Graduates with MPA in Public Sector Management, Cal State-Northridge; about this time she also arranges for employment at PATH for her out-of-work husband;

    - March 2017: Declares intention to run for US Congress in Southern California, and campaign staff begins to assemble; Katie Hill, her husband Kenny Heslep, and a Katie Hill for Congress female campaign staffer allegedly begin an ongoing three-way sexual relationship circa late 2017;

    - June 5, 2018: Katie Hill secures a place in the November general election by defeating three Democratic primary challengers, 21-18-6-3. The second-place Democrat in the primary (18%) was Bryan Caforio [born ca. 1983] (BA, UCLA, Pol. Science, 2005; JD, Yale Law, 2008);

    - Nov. 2018: Wins seat in US Congress from California's 25th District (54-46, against incumbent Republican),


    after what she dubbed 'the most millennial campaign ever,' due to her age, tireless work for the homeless and LGBTQ rights (she identifies as bisexual) and her scrappy, grassroots campaign run primarily by 20-somethings.
     
    (Note: California-25 -- "Northern Los Angeles including Palmdale and Santa Clarita, northeastern Ventura including Simi Valley" -- was a 65-35 Republican district in the 2000s, and a 55-45 Republican district in the 2010s; its dipping to 46% R votes in Nov. 2018 was attributed to the anti-Trump wave, and thus was Hill, a woman without previous non-homeless-activism experience, elected);

    - June 2019: Katie Hill's husband Kenny Heslep files for divorce citing infidelity; asks Los Angeles court to force Hill to provide him spousal support;

    - Oct. 2019: Details of Katie Hill's bisexual relationships with several male and female campaign staffers emerge; photos and lurid text messages; evidence that she misused funds at her previous job also surfaces; she is mocked on Fox News and right-wing media and resigns a week later.

    Final note: Video of Katie Hill, both in House floor speeches and informally, shows she does NOT speak with vocal fry.

    Katie Hill (left) with husband (right):

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EH8s4fRVUAMhedN.png

    Replies: @kihowi, @Justvisiting, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @Hail

    A few more details of interest —

    Noted also by ScarletNumber above, Katie Hill has some elite-educational ancestry via her b.1936 grandfather who was a Princeton PhD in Political Science; this grandfather was also of Oklahoma origin, suggesting he was really bright, to have made it from humble origins to Princeton. Katie is the fourth person in her family tree to have graduated from Cal State-Northridge, beginning with her grandmother.

    Her grandfather relocated to Southern California in the late 1960s and had a long career at the UCLA Political Science department where he appears to have been popular.

    Katie Hill’s mother appears to have been married several times.

    On Katie Hill’s father: Another parallel to Steve Sailer, besides the geographic proximity, is that public records say Katie Hill’s father was born in Nov. 1958, which is within a few weeks of Steve Sailer.

    Here is the publicly available info I tracked down on Katie Hill’s parents and grandparents:

    _____________

    Parents of Katie Hill:

    Mike Hill (b. Nov. 1958?), a police officer; he earned a BA in Organizational Systems Management from Cal State-Northridge, ’98, the same school from which his mother-in-law graduated and also from which his daughter Katie Hill would later earn two degrees (2010s). Mike Hill was quoted in the local California media in June 2018 (when Katie Hill was headed for her primary win) as follows: “Mike Hill, the candidate’s father, grills hamburgers. He’s proud of her and how she ran a positive campaign. A Republican, he says he has influenced her on the need for fiscal responsibility, and she has changed his views on health care.”

    Rachel Stevenson (b. March 1964 in New Jersey during father’s PhD studies), born Rachel Campbell, resident of California from ca. late 1960s to present; a registered nurse; Rachel may have been married three times — to Mike Hill (two daughters) in the 1980s and 1990s, a Brett Bennett (one son) about late 1990s to 2000s, and apparently most recently to a Paul Stevenson, which is the name she was using when she appeared in the press several times in the 2010s (these names are all from her father’s obituary). Through Rachel’s second husband, Katie Hill has a half-brother named Danny Bennett (born circa 2000) who was inducted into the US Navy in Aug. 2019, as tweeted by then-Rep. Katie Hill).

    _____________

    Grandparents of Katie Hill:

    [Grandfather] Hill
    [Grandmother]
    (I find no further info on father’s side)

    Blair Campbell, UCLA Professor of Political Science (1936-2011; born in Muskogee, Oklahoma, a place made famous by Merle Haggard’s early-1970s hit “Okie from Muskogee;” raised in Allen, Oklahoma), a US Army veteran (perhaps a draftee in the 1950s, must have gotten out asap), Princeton PhD circa the late 1960s, and UCLA professor as of the 1970s and into the 2000s. His parents were Edward Campbell (of Wagoner, Oklahoma; age 25 in Feb. 1936) and Janice Blalock (of Clayton, Oklahoma; age 20 in Feb. 1936), who married in Arkansas, Feb. 13, 1936; their son Blair was born Aug. 22, 1936, 6.5 months later). Professor Campbell had one daughter, Rachel (see above), through whom he had three grandchildren including ex-Rep. Katie Hill. Katie has told an interviewer in 2018: “My grandfather, who was a poli sci professor at UCLA, was a huge influence in my life.”

    Sarah Gault, married before 1964, living with husband Blair Campbell during the latter’s Political Science doctoral studies at Princeton, which is where their (only) daughter Rachel was born, before moving to SoCal circa the late 1960s. Sarah later took a BA in Anthropology from Cal State-Northridge (’71), when her husband was a UCLA professor and her daughter was elementary-school age. Information in Rachel’s birth announcement in a local Oklahoma newspaper suggests Sarah (nee Gault) Campbell’s parents were Earl Glenn Fault (1911-1960) of Arkansas and (likely) Mary Alice Shandy (1914-1999) (of Oklahoma?).

    Not sure what became of Sarah, but she is not mentioned in Blair’s 2011 obituary, nor does she appear in any of the family pictures the family put online to celebrate his memory. A relatively early death, or a highly unamicable divorce?

    Then-UCLA Professor Blair Campbell with daughter Rachel, early 1980s, California:

    With granddaughters, including Katie Hill, early or mid 1990s:

  94. @eah
    OT

    #MeToo public service announcement.

    https://twitter.com/PrestonMitchum/status/1187410122429124608

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Joe Stalin, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Autochthon

    Implied consent:

    When she starts calllllllin’ my name…
    “Stroke it Bubba Goldstein, but don’t stroke so fast…”

  95. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Justvisiting


    She is a fractal version of our civilization.
     
    You left out her serious case of tranny bod.

    Go look at her bong + Iron Cross tattoo photo again. That is not a normal, feminine figure by any stretch.

    Replies: @Hail

    The Daily Mail on Katie Hill’s bikini-line tattoo:

    Shocking photographs of Democrat Katie Hill posing naked with a tattoo of…an Iron Cross on her bikini line while smoking a bong and making out with her young female aide

    the ADL does note the ‘Iron Cross in isolation (i.e., without a superimposed swastika or without other accompanying hate symbols) cannot be determined to be a hate symbol,’ because bikers, skateboarders and extreme sports enthusiasts frequently use the symbol.

    Hill and Heslep also posted her naked photos online under a thread called ‘WouldYouF**kMyWife’.

    The Daily Mail article of Oct. 24 on the Katie Hill saga bore a characteristically long headline with four elements crammed into to it: (1) “Nazi-era tattoo,” (2) “smoking a bong,” (3) “kissing her female staffer,” (4) “‘wife-sharing’ sites.” The URL version of the headline is: “Katie Hill Seen Showing Nazi-era Tattoo, Smoking BONG, NAKED.”

    They chose to lead with by far the most dubious and really tamest of the four, which they rather dishonestly call a “Nazi-era tattoo.” The wife-sharing and all, relegated to second-tier importance.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Hail

    Nazi-era tattoo

    It is funny how, at the height of the cult of Holocaustianity, the most popular symbol by far in clothing, jewelry, etc, is the iron cross, which is far more proprietarily Germanic and militaristic than the swastika, but which totally got a pass for its bizarre second career. The reason it's associated with chopper culture is right back to the swastika: motorcycle wierdos used to embrace Nazi imagery as the biggest possible FU to GI and boomer normies.

  96. @Stan Adams
    @SunBakedSuburb

    https://media2.giphy.com/media/pErRJHGmyCuT6/giphy.gif

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)

    Replies: @Autochthon

    The summary of the disease lists several aspect of its epidemiology:

    Prevention: Avoid cannibalism

    Hilarious, despite – perhaps because of – it’s solid “I shouldn’t even have to tell you this shit!” aspect. Yet it makes me think of HIV and AIDS, which would be about as common as kuru if people followed the equally obvious proscription: “Prevention: Avoid cramming penises and tongues into others’ rectums, especially those of a different stranger each week.”

  97. @J.Ross
    @Hail

    These are the people who wanted Trump out of office because of a laughable unverified anonymous claim about Russian compromise via urination videos. Surrendering without a fight over something entirely too many women of the same generation have done anyway.
    Oh by the way, remember how Hillary and McCain had that walkable foot cast thing? Now McCain's widow Cindy is wearing it. Honk honk.

    Replies: @Hail

    Your comment reminds me of the Jeffrey Epstein case — which is now well and truly completely out of the news (as planned, a cynic would say…), whereas it’d have been regularly in the news for years had he not conveniently died.

    Whoever discovered these “wife sharing” pics, which may have set off the scandal (not sure on this), whoever it was sent (sold?) them to right-wing media. Imagine if, instead, they’d tried a political blackmail attempt.

    What if, further, the blackmailer asked for no money, in fact asked for nothing? except an implied request to stay on the reservation on certain political questions. It would start to look like an intelligence operation. (This was, I believe, Philip Giraldi’s hypothesis on what was most likely going on with the Epstein ring.)

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Hail

    Isn't blackmail defeated when you out yourself?

  98. @eah
    OT

    #MeToo public service announcement.

    https://twitter.com/PrestonMitchum/status/1187410122429124608

    Replies: @Anonymous, @guest, @Joe Stalin, @ScarletNumber, @J.Ross, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @Autochthon

  99. @Anonymous
    @eah

    Big LMM was right. If a woman consents to sex, once things have firmed up she has to expect the normal course of action.


    “I have to be honest, I don’t give a f***,” she says, sounding as though she really doesn’t. “First I didn’t know, because I don’t read my press, but when I kept being questioned about it I said, ‘If you’re going to walk around in your underwear, drunk, you’re asking for it.’ And they really jumped on me for that. Because the idea in this climate of pseudo-empowerment is that no means no. Well, I have news for you, girls. A stiff dick means yes.”

    Surely she is not saying the bikers were in their rights to rape her? “What I’m saying is that women think men are in control all the time, but men are weaker than women. And don’t mess with these guys because once it’s unleashed they can’t control themselves.”
     
    In other words, ladies, if you're a cocktease you might get more than you bargained for. Several inches more.

    Replies: @donvonburg

    I’m curious as to your standard what a woman needs to do to clearly convey non-consent for sex. Do you require she wear a chastity belt or simply a sign saying “NO SEX”? When does she have a right to decide she doesn’t want to have relations with you? Are you advocating for the Divine Right of Erections?

    That’s a scary thought, really. Just because one odd and freemartinish woman seems to think it’s okay, that doesn’t apply to the rest of humanity. I bet if you applied that standard to her daughter (whom you seem to fancy) she’d decide that wasn’t the done thing and you’d be in a lot of trouble; those Ohio women tend to be better shots than they let on.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @donvonburg

    I've never had a woman want to back out at the last minute, but of course if I were told to stop I would. My point is not that carrying on regardless is proper behavior, but that there is a big gap between what is gentlemanly and what is legally actionable.

    If a woman goes into a man's bedroom, takes off her clothes, gets into bed with him, and then starts running the bases but then alleges rape....juries should just laugh.

    What Big LMM said is dead nuts correct. Don't be a tease and don't put yourself in a stupid position.

  100. @Hail
    @J.Ross

    Your comment reminds me of the Jeffrey Epstein case -- which is now well and truly completely out of the news (as planned, a cynic would say...), whereas it'd have been regularly in the news for years had he not conveniently died.

    Whoever discovered these "wife sharing" pics, which may have set off the scandal (not sure on this), whoever it was sent (sold?) them to right-wing media. Imagine if, instead, they'd tried a political blackmail attempt.

    What if, further, the blackmailer asked for no money, in fact asked for nothing? except an implied request to stay on the reservation on certain political questions. It would start to look like an intelligence operation. (This was, I believe, Philip Giraldi's hypothesis on what was most likely going on with the Epstein ring.)

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Isn’t blackmail defeated when you out yourself?

  101. @Hail
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    The Daily Mail on Katie Hill's bikini-line tattoo:


    Shocking photographs of Democrat Katie Hill posing naked with a tattoo of...an Iron Cross on her bikini line while smoking a bong and making out with her young female aide
     

    the ADL does note the 'Iron Cross in isolation (i.e., without a superimposed swastika or without other accompanying hate symbols) cannot be determined to be a hate symbol,' because bikers, skateboarders and extreme sports enthusiasts frequently use the symbol.
     

    Hill and Heslep also posted her naked photos online under a thread called 'WouldYouF**kMyWife'.
     
    The Daily Mail article of Oct. 24 on the Katie Hill saga bore a characteristically long headline with four elements crammed into to it: (1) "Nazi-era tattoo," (2) "smoking a bong," (3) "kissing her female staffer," (4) "'wife-sharing' sites." The URL version of the headline is: "Katie Hill Seen Showing Nazi-era Tattoo, Smoking BONG, NAKED."

    They chose to lead with by far the most dubious and really tamest of the four, which they rather dishonestly call a "Nazi-era tattoo." The wife-sharing and all, relegated to second-tier importance.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    Nazi-era tattoo

    It is funny how, at the height of the cult of Holocaustianity, the most popular symbol by far in clothing, jewelry, etc, is the iron cross, which is far more proprietarily Germanic and militaristic than the swastika, but which totally got a pass for its bizarre second career. The reason it’s associated with chopper culture is right back to the swastika: motorcycle wierdos used to embrace Nazi imagery as the biggest possible FU to GI and boomer normies.

  102. @kihowi
    @Hail


    born Aug. 1987
     
    Oh god. Old men will talk about the shocking moment you realize police officers are younger than you. They're wrong; it's actually politicians.

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Yeah, I had that same reaction. And I’m only a few years older than her.

    Did she skip a year of school? If she was born in August 1987, she would have been 16 in June 2004.

    I have a mid-August birthday and turned five a couple of weeks before starting kindergarten, so I graduated from high school at 17.

    • Replies: @Hail
    @Stan Adams

    You must be right that Kate Hill skipped a year of school.

    The only alternative explanation is that local media got their reporting wrong when they've said she graduated from Saugus High School in 2004, which seems very unlikely given that these were in close-quarters interviews with a then-unknown candidate, and probably got that info from her.

    Here is an early case, a local media story on her campaign, which has 2004:


    Katie’s Hill to Stand On
    Lee Barnathan | News | January 25, 2018
    Santa Clarita [California] Gazette

    [Democratic primary candidate Katie Hill] lives – and has lived – in the district her entire life. Hill graduated from Saugus in 2004 and now lives in Agua Dulce.
     

    BTW, the same article characterizes her politics as:

    Like many people, especially women, Hill was deeply upset at Donald Trump’s election and tried to make sense of it.
     
    (This while she was engaged in a three-way, ongoing sexual relationship with her husband and their early-20s female campaign staffer. Among other things.)

    In any case, as for what she was doing between June 2004 and whenever in 2011 she finished her BA degree, a period of 6.5 to 7.5 years depending on which semester she graduated. We know about the pregnancy and abortion/miscarriage (about 2005), and the ongoing relationship with Kenny Heslep, the degree of exclusivity of which we don't know (if going from known behavior in the mid and late 2010s...).

    I think she suggested that she worked in service jobs in the 2000s, and was only a part-time student; despite her early start (out of HS at 16 years, 9 or 10 months), this explains why her BA was in hand only by the year she turned 24.

    By the time she was 24 (2011), she had gotten hooked in academia and stayed right on for an MA (2014, the year she turned 27). Her great strides in the Homelessness group were made at this time, presumably on her own merits. She is not someone without talent.

    Replies: @Autochthon

  103. @Stan Adams
    @kihowi

    Yeah, I had that same reaction. And I’m only a few years older than her.

    Did she skip a year of school? If she was born in August 1987, she would have been 16 in June 2004.

    I have a mid-August birthday and turned five a couple of weeks before starting kindergarten, so I graduated from high school at 17.

    Replies: @Hail

    You must be right that Kate Hill skipped a year of school.

    The only alternative explanation is that local media got their reporting wrong when they’ve said she graduated from Saugus High School in 2004, which seems very unlikely given that these were in close-quarters interviews with a then-unknown candidate, and probably got that info from her.

    Here is an early case, a local media story on her campaign, which has 2004:

    Katie’s Hill to Stand On
    Lee Barnathan | News | January 25, 2018
    Santa Clarita [California] Gazette

    [Democratic primary candidate Katie Hill] lives – and has lived – in the district her entire life. Hill graduated from Saugus in 2004 and now lives in Agua Dulce.

    BTW, the same article characterizes her politics as:

    Like many people, especially women, Hill was deeply upset at Donald Trump’s election and tried to make sense of it.

    (This while she was engaged in a three-way, ongoing sexual relationship with her husband and their early-20s female campaign staffer. Among other things.)

    In any case, as for what she was doing between June 2004 and whenever in 2011 she finished her BA degree, a period of 6.5 to 7.5 years depending on which semester she graduated. We know about the pregnancy and abortion/miscarriage (about 2005), and the ongoing relationship with Kenny Heslep, the degree of exclusivity of which we don’t know (if going from known behavior in the mid and late 2010s…).

    I think she suggested that she worked in service jobs in the 2000s, and was only a part-time student; despite her early start (out of HS at 16 years, 9 or 10 months), this explains why her BA was in hand only by the year she turned 24.

    By the time she was 24 (2011), she had gotten hooked in academia and stayed right on for an MA (2014, the year she turned 27). Her great strides in the Homelessness group were made at this time, presumably on her own merits. She is not someone without talent.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    @Hail


    Her great strides in the Homelessness group were made at this time, presumably on her own merits. She is not someone without talent.
     
    I'll warrant many of those strides were made on her back more so than her (professional) merits, though this does not contradict your intimation she had certain talents....
  104. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @donvonburg
    @Anonymous

    I'm curious as to your standard what a woman needs to do to clearly convey non-consent for sex. Do you require she wear a chastity belt or simply a sign saying "NO SEX"? When does she have a right to decide she doesn't want to have relations with you? Are you advocating for the Divine Right of Erections?

    That's a scary thought, really. Just because one odd and freemartinish woman seems to think it's okay, that doesn't apply to the rest of humanity. I bet if you applied that standard to her daughter (whom you seem to fancy) she'd decide that wasn't the done thing and you'd be in a lot of trouble; those Ohio women tend to be better shots than they let on.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    I’ve never had a woman want to back out at the last minute, but of course if I were told to stop I would. My point is not that carrying on regardless is proper behavior, but that there is a big gap between what is gentlemanly and what is legally actionable.

    If a woman goes into a man’s bedroom, takes off her clothes, gets into bed with him, and then starts running the bases but then alleges rape….juries should just laugh.

    What Big LMM said is dead nuts correct. Don’t be a tease and don’t put yourself in a stupid position.

    • Agree: Autochthon
  105. @Hail
    @Stan Adams

    You must be right that Kate Hill skipped a year of school.

    The only alternative explanation is that local media got their reporting wrong when they've said she graduated from Saugus High School in 2004, which seems very unlikely given that these were in close-quarters interviews with a then-unknown candidate, and probably got that info from her.

    Here is an early case, a local media story on her campaign, which has 2004:


    Katie’s Hill to Stand On
    Lee Barnathan | News | January 25, 2018
    Santa Clarita [California] Gazette

    [Democratic primary candidate Katie Hill] lives – and has lived – in the district her entire life. Hill graduated from Saugus in 2004 and now lives in Agua Dulce.
     

    BTW, the same article characterizes her politics as:

    Like many people, especially women, Hill was deeply upset at Donald Trump’s election and tried to make sense of it.
     
    (This while she was engaged in a three-way, ongoing sexual relationship with her husband and their early-20s female campaign staffer. Among other things.)

    In any case, as for what she was doing between June 2004 and whenever in 2011 she finished her BA degree, a period of 6.5 to 7.5 years depending on which semester she graduated. We know about the pregnancy and abortion/miscarriage (about 2005), and the ongoing relationship with Kenny Heslep, the degree of exclusivity of which we don't know (if going from known behavior in the mid and late 2010s...).

    I think she suggested that she worked in service jobs in the 2000s, and was only a part-time student; despite her early start (out of HS at 16 years, 9 or 10 months), this explains why her BA was in hand only by the year she turned 24.

    By the time she was 24 (2011), she had gotten hooked in academia and stayed right on for an MA (2014, the year she turned 27). Her great strides in the Homelessness group were made at this time, presumably on her own merits. She is not someone without talent.

    Replies: @Autochthon

    Her great strides in the Homelessness group were made at this time, presumably on her own merits. She is not someone without talent.

    I’ll warrant many of those strides were made on her back more so than her (professional) merits, though this does not contradict your intimation she had certain talents….

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