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With Jeb Bush much in the news, it’s worth recalling how central to the Bush Dynasty has been the goal of integrating Mexico into the North American economy ever since 1953 when George H.W. Bush co-founded the Zapata Corporation. (It’s not surprising that George W. Bush named his little oil company Arbusto, or Bush in Spanish.)

At least from 1960, when Bush hired Jorge Diaz Serrano to be his front man for offshore oil drilling in Mexican waters because foreign oil companies have not been allowed to operate in Mexico since 1938, the Bush family has been interested in knocking down the barriers dividing America and Mexico.

The Bushes do have a point: Mexico is one of the biggest underachievers in the world, considering its excellent real estate and prime location adjacent to the United States.

Former Mexican foreign minister Jorge Castaneda suggested in his recent book Manana Forever? that Mexican mediocrity — which includes high accident rates — is encouraged by traditional anti-Americanism. America is the obvious example of an advanced country for Mexicans. But to avoid being turned into a banana republic by Guatemala or Honduras, Mexican elites since the Mexican Revolution of 1910-1920 have typically backed anti-American attitudes. But, according to Castaneda, anti-Americanism inculcates lackadaisical backwardness in Mexicans.

The Bushes have been very accommodating to the sensitivities of Mexican elites, including being enthusiastic about taking surplus Mexican nonelites off their hands.

Really, isn’t this whole border thing, not to mention separate country thing, Bad for Business?

American businessmen were welcome in Mexico during the dictatorship of Porfirio Diaz, but he was driven into exile by the Mexican Revolution of 1911. The American ambassador’s meddling worsened the political situation, bringing to power new leaders who repeatedly invaded America in 1915-1916, leading Germany to send the notorious Zimmerman Telegram inviting Mexico to reconquer Texas. It’s publication on March 1, 1917 (my father’s birthday) was a major step toward the U.S. declaring war on Germany a month later.

Then in 1938 the government of Mexico expropriated all the foreign oil companies and set up Pemex as a government owned oil monopoly.

One of the major planned accomplishments of the elder Bush’s administration was the NAFTA agreement.

George W. Bush came to office in 2001 and immediately focused intently on making deals over immigration and other matters with the new pro-business president of Mexico, Vicente Fox, until 9/11 came along.

Jeb is married to a Mexican lady and used to vacation at the ranch of the brother of President Salinas before he was sent to prison in the murder of his ex-brother-in-law, who had been caught being unfaithful to the Salinas sister with a man. As David Frum has noted, facilitating Mexican immigration is the topic closest to Jeb’s heart.

The one elected official in the next generation of Bushes is George P. Bush, who led the delegates to the 1988 Republican convention in the Pledge of Allegiance:

The Bushes want to elect a new people to keep on electing Bushes.

 
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  1. It’s pretty clear that Jeb thinks the anti-Amnesty Right in America is primarily motivated by racism and hatred of Mexicans. Like his wife.

  2. So, the long and the short of it is that Jeb Bush doesn’t believe in immigration enforcement.

    See also: Almost all of the other purported Presidential candidates in both parties.

  3. Why shouldn’t Americans hate Mexico? It is a reasonable response to Mexican aggression.

    Funny how Mexicans are allowed to hate America all they want with zero admonition let alone condemnation from any US official.

  4. Lot says:

    Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly. She is also 16 inches shorter than him and from a broken and poor family.

    Columbia is the product of a mixed-race marriage herself. The long article about her someone linked here recently had about six photos of her father, who looks 100% white to me. In fact, the first photo of the father from the 1940’s I first thought was an older photo of one of the Bushes. Her mother looks 70% indio/30% white.

    After he left Columba’s mother, he married another, much younger, dark-skinned Mexican woman.

    Someone asked about her education. In Mexico mandatory education ends at our 10th grade. Then you can continue for another 2 years at a “prepa” that is considered a “college” with “professors” but given the age of the students, and that it is free with nearly open admissions, is more like an American high school limited to 11th and 12th grade. After than you can go to a regular college. So the fact that Columba did not go to college does not tell us if her education stopped at 16 or 18. Given the era, and her lower-middle-class economic status, both are quite possible.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family.
    --
    Financial disclosure forms filed by George and Barbara Bush in 1984 showed a net worth of $2.1 million, less in real terms than the sale price of Zapata Oil in 1963 (and a little over half of what Geraldine Ferraro and her husband were worth). They were wealthy in the manner of a local patrician family in a middle-sized city. It's conceivable that Jeb's grandmother had an eight-figure wad, but that would have been cut up in 1992 among her six children after philanthropic donations were deducted.
    , @Art Deco
    Columba Bush is really hard to explain.
    --
    Only if you're addled by the mechanistic norms of the manosphere writers. There are regularities and there are variations. Nothing all that puzzling about that.
    , @Jack D
    The Bush marriage doesn't fit the narrative that Steve is trying to paint. This was not some alliance between American royalty and Mexican royalty - this was more like marrying the servant girl.
    , @Kevin O'Keeffe
    "Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly. She is also 16 inches shorter than him and from a broken and poor family."

    He probably digs both A) short chicks, and B) her personality. Not necessarily in that order.

    I was once with a very short woman, and I found it somewhat erotic, the way I towered over her.

    But I agree that Columba isn't looking too attractive these days. That's boy's haircut isn't doing her any favors.
    , @Richard K. Munro
    "Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special."

    I am sure Jeb Bush would disagree with you. Character and charm go for a long way for domestic happiness. By all accounts Columba excels at making a happy home. It appears to be a very happy marriage.
  5. As David Frum has noted, facilitating Mexican immigration is the topic closest to Jeb’s heart.

    I guess so long as the topic closest to Jeb’s heart is the facilitation of Mexican immigration, he will remain a strong, mainstream, legitimate candidate. Imagine if the issue closest to his heart was the flip-slip, namely, the impeding of Mexican immigration.

    Likewise when a European American wants to limit immigration, his reasons are immediately cast as racist. He must want to limit non-European immigration to preserve America as a European nation. Yet isn’t hispanic and other racial groups’ support for immigration essentially the flip-slide of the same coin? They want immigration because they perceive it as benefiting their people and increasing their numbers and influence in the US. Yet their support of immigration is never linked with racist motives.

  6. Don’t forget the North American Union that Bush was trying to promote until it got exposed.

    Still no matter how you cut it, the Bush’s are traitors given their agenda.

    “Really, isn’t this whole border thing, not to mention separate countries, Bad for Business?” Yes and no. American service industry would initially benefit from a massive influx of low wage, disposable Hispanics. But as the influx destroys the social safety net along with quality of life and the middle-class. Then the service industry will find almost no one to afford their low quality services and go belly up.

    Of course most business types don’t look ahead more than a quarter so what happens a couple of years from now is like forever to them. It’ll come as a big surprise to the piratical scumbags.

    For the rest of us, it means a nice taste of hell and no future for the kids.

  7. Priss Factor [AKA "K. Arujo"] says:

    “America is the obvious example of an advanced country for Mexicans. But to avoid being turned into a banana republic by Guatemala or Honduras, Mexican elites since the Mexican Revolution of 1910-1920 have typically backed anti-American attitudes.”

    You can hate a nation but still emulate it.

    Mexicans just like being Mexican. They don’t need no stinking progress to drink cerveza and eat tacos.

  8. Our whole civilization is about to go arbusto.

  9. This may explain the peculiar insanity of the Bush family, but it fails to explain why all the other American oligarchs want a flood of Mexicans into our country.

    The oligarchs of America must be feeling particularly invincible about now. They’ve so rigged the game that they feel they need not fear the electoral consequences of a flood of Third Worlders. Restrict the candidates which voters can vote for. Buy them off before, during ,and after their term of office. Toss out any votes you don’t like (see laws banning gay marriage in 30+ states). Get the president to ignore the clear letter of the law when he feels like it. And if Congress and the president really fuck things up (see Obamacare), the courts can always rule that yes means no and up means down, as it’s very clear they’re about to do in the Burwell case.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    I'll answer the WHY. It should be obvious.

    First, the power of State Legislatures and Governors, where Republicans dominate, is very limited and declining constantly. Since FDR, power has gone to the President alone, who rules via Executive Orders and various administrative bodies comprised of his appointees, the vast majority needing no Congressional approval, whose said rulings have the FORCE OF LAW.

    Second, in five years White kids will be a minority. Elites have already WON. Its a done deal, anything less than Balkan style hyper-violence directed at Hispanics and Blacks and Asians will do nothing to change that Whites are already a minority in their own country, and a third class minority at that.

    Third, White women in particular embrace anti-White attitudes as an upper class marker, what the "respectable people" believe, and religious belief that does not in any way restrict their sexual adventures or freedom. Critically this is matched by a junior to be sure, but place at the spoils table at the expense of White guys who are being forced out to give their jobs and positions in society to others: Blacks, gays, Hispanics, and White women (at the bottom but still there).

    Fourth, the success of the EU (in surviving at least) has cemented the idea that no borders is a good thing for elites. Don't underestimate the attraction of that model for elites.

    Fifth, more Mexicans means bidding up asset prices and preventing Japanese style deflation driven by population decline. When media people talk about the need for more workers etc. what they are really saying is have more people bid up prices of media properties, real estate, agricultural commodities, etc. that the Super Zips own or control.

    The most important part is the power of the Presidency. What elites realistically fear is a Ted Cruz or someone like him steamrolling Jeb Bush and a weak Hillary! and building on Presidential Caesar Rule from FDR to Obama; not enforcing laws they don't like, enforcing out of thin air new ones, etc. This is why Manbearpig, Al Gore, is exploring Iowa. Why Dems are desperate for an Obama, a Black guy without too much Ghetto to get Black and Liberal White votes to crush the possibility of a Cruz. Jeb Bush they don't fear -- no attack articles against him. Sarah Palin? Oh yes they hate hate hate her and fear her too.
  10. If the 2016 Republican nomination is a set-up, mere theatre for fools, then Jeb is the establishment candidate while Scott Walker, who has consistently back amnesty since his days in local office, is the “anti-establishment” candidate. But they both believe pretty much the same exact thing.

    • Replies: @Realist
    "If the 2016 Republican nomination is a set-up, mere theatre for fools, then Jeb is the establishment candidate while Scott Walker, who has consistently back amnesty since his days in local office, is the “anti-establishment” candidate."

    The Republican party has always been theater for fools as has been the Democrat party.
  11. Every one of Jeb Bush’s children has an arrest record. That’s not a good sign. Jeb did not marry well. The Bush family is clearly suffering reversion toward the mean.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    Every one of Jeb Bush’s children has an arrest record. That’s not a good sign. Jeb did not marry well. The Bush family is clearly suffering reversion toward the mean.
    --
    His sons are standard-issue professional class denizens with some pratfalls in their late adolescent years. His daughter is something of a n'er-do-well given her advantages in life (at 37, she has never married, has no children, has worked in a very common-and-garden job for the last 7 years, and her tertiary schooling is limited to associate's degrees irrelevant to her work).
    , @anonymous

    The Bush family is clearly suffering reversion toward the mean.

     

    Yes, however in this case the mean is the Mexican aboriginal one.
  12. We had guys hauling trucks loaded with Mexican coins which had high scrap value in the USA. Truck loads of drugs went to Atlanta and they weren’t deadheading it back to Mexico. They were packed with cash. Now Mexico isn’t worth a dime and there’s not a dimes worth of difference between the politicians. Running guns didn’t work out too well and all we have now is an influx of zombies because they’ll work cheap. Itz a zombie economy and all your friends are dead. The freak zombie is running weak encryption. This works great with a weak economy and trillions and trillions in zombie debt.

  13. Lot says:

    But to avoid being turned into a banana republic by Guatemala or Honduras, Mexican elites since the Mexican Revolution of 1910-1920 have typically backed anti-American attitudes.

    I think the bigger concern of Mexican white elites is not to get massacred by the brown people living in poverty all around them. It happened twice, first with Father Hidalgo and Father Morelos’s unsuccessful independence movement. Each time their indio army took over a city, they massacred the whites, with the padres unable to control their army.

    That’s why their revolution failed: they could not bear to see this happen to Mexico City, so they did not attack it when they had a clear opportunity to do so and an overwhelming numerical superiority. Once the opportunity to kill the whites and destroy stopped, their army melted away, and they were defeated and executed.

    Mexico only became independent a couple years later when the conservative white elites and army officers decided to declare Mexico an independent in reaction to a liberal revolution in Spain.

    The second time it happened was the Mexican Revolution. The massacres where not so explicitly racial, it was more of a communist type revolution. But whites still disproportionately suffered at brown hands. It then devolved into multiple disorganized armies “living off the land” and causing death and starvation wherever they operated, like in the Thirty Year War. During this period, about half of Mexico’s white population fled, losing most of their property as they did, many of them fairly recent arrivals from Europe and the United States who were encouraged to come by Porfirio Diaz.

    • Replies: @Lot

    I think the bigger concern of Mexican white elites is not to get massacred by the brown people living in poverty all around them.
     
    There are also more recent examples for Mexico's elite to fear from elsewhere in Latin America, like Cuba, Bolivia, and Venezuela. And then there was the attempted communist revolution in Chiapas in the 90's.
  14. I think George P. Bush has a better soul than the other Bushes, which is why he’ll never run for high office.

    • Replies: @AMH
    http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/01/02/george-p-bush-oath-texas-land-commissioner/

    "..The Texas land commissioner’s job is often a steppingstone to higher office: Outgoing Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst once held the post."
  15. Lot says:
    @Lot

    But to avoid being turned into a banana republic by Guatemala or Honduras, Mexican elites since the Mexican Revolution of 1910-1920 have typically backed anti-American attitudes.
     
    I think the bigger concern of Mexican white elites is not to get massacred by the brown people living in poverty all around them. It happened twice, first with Father Hidalgo and Father Morelos's unsuccessful independence movement. Each time their indio army took over a city, they massacred the whites, with the padres unable to control their army.

    That's why their revolution failed: they could not bear to see this happen to Mexico City, so they did not attack it when they had a clear opportunity to do so and an overwhelming numerical superiority. Once the opportunity to kill the whites and destroy stopped, their army melted away, and they were defeated and executed.

    Mexico only became independent a couple years later when the conservative white elites and army officers decided to declare Mexico an independent in reaction to a liberal revolution in Spain.

    The second time it happened was the Mexican Revolution. The massacres where not so explicitly racial, it was more of a communist type revolution. But whites still disproportionately suffered at brown hands. It then devolved into multiple disorganized armies "living off the land" and causing death and starvation wherever they operated, like in the Thirty Year War. During this period, about half of Mexico's white population fled, losing most of their property as they did, many of them fairly recent arrivals from Europe and the United States who were encouraged to come by Porfirio Diaz.

    I think the bigger concern of Mexican white elites is not to get massacred by the brown people living in poverty all around them.

    There are also more recent examples for Mexico’s elite to fear from elsewhere in Latin America, like Cuba, Bolivia, and Venezuela. And then there was the attempted communist revolution in Chiapas in the 90’s.

  16. Rarely do I go anti-female…but in George P. Bush’s arrest case it is possible that the girl was lying.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I think you are at the stake of a public relations control.
  17. Let’s insert a little clas warfare in here. The Bushes are an extreme example of why middle class and lower class whites should have absolutely no sense of loyalty with our elites, but the rot is much more widespread.

    But the peons still do. Let a Donald Sterling suffer some indignities and the howls of outraged solidarity from the right and alt-right is predictable and sickening. You think Donald has any solidarity with your average guy? Far better to sit back and enjoy the schaudenfreude as you watch the system devour one of its own.

    Tom Wolfe understands the complete lack of solidarity successful alpha types, regardless of their political or cultural affiliation, with less successful sorts. His “A Man in Full” is a great case study of how “job creators” and atheletes will sell us all down the river or reasons economic or simply to impress NY interior decorators.

    But, like well-trained peasants, or Christian Dispensationalists, or abused spouses, Michael Scott to Ted Packer, the GOPer shock troops will rally to the defense of their beloved abusers. I mean, otherwise, we’d stand a chance of being accussed of bitterness, High School revenge fantasies, or jealousy.

    The thinking seems to be that to avoid looking petty, let’s support the Successful, even when they are kicking us in the teeth. That’s the only reason somebody like Jack Kemp could ever be taken seriously as a politician or missed when the old scoundrel kicked off.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Yeah, that's pretty much what I've been saying. You get to the top by stepping on people (while pretending you're not, which is a tricky balance to strike, so it requires both cunning and social skills), so of course the winners poop on the losers.

    You can still believe capitalism is effective--it's just a matter of keeping an eye on the winners and making sure they don't get too big for their britches. Which we, of course, have failed to do.

    Americans' problem is we were never serfs. Europeans know the rich are the enemy because they have hundreds of years of offenses by knights against peasants to remember. Americans don't realize the same about Soros and the Koch brothers.

    It's not some intrinsic property of the rich, either, though as I said you have to be evil to get there--power corrupts, and any human being wants to defend his position. The poor are just as selfish, but they are usually more interested in beer and cigarettes than selling out our country to Mexico or Israel.

    , @Anon
    Yes signaling loser is a great way to get ignored. Would that you and leftist consersative figure it out?

    More to the point I know that sometimes it isn't obvious at this site but the Tom Wolfe put it in a fictional work so it must be true argument isn't probally the most convincing.
    , @rod1963
    Agreed, the Bushes are a great example why the working and middle-class whites should have no loyalty towards our elites. Eat them yes, but only if we are hungry.

    But the Bushes have the GOP and MSM working for them and give them a gloss that covers up their criminality and venality. Cross them and they'll crush you just like they did to Lou Dobbs when he exposed NAFTA and the NAU on his show. So most folks don't see the elites for what they are.

    And yes the solidarity by the right for Sterling was sickening, this guy would step on the people supporting him and not think twice. Fools.

    Let these rich SOBS and the Lefty PC/MC types tear into each other.

    The fact is we shouldn't support the successful unless they reciprocate, if they don't, the hell with them. Wage a little class war on the self-serving sociopaths. They either invest in the country that made them rich or have the people treat them like pariahs. Because it's clear treating the rich kindly has done little for the people or the country because they continue to work assiduously sending our jobs and factories overseas while importing workers to replace Americans and impoverish us.

    They're a bigger enemy to Americans than ISIS or AQ.
    , @Whiskey
    What other choice is there for a White guy without power and connections? Democrats are explicitly anti-White guy, they don't want them (unless they are gay).

    Moreover, politics only matters at the Presidential level. If the Governor is Republican or Democrat, it really does not matter, because education, law enforcement, environmental, tax policy, and nearly everything else is set by unelected officials appointed by the President who tell Governors what to do. See Ferguson Missouri, or the LAPD consent decree.

    Thus choosing a less bad President matters, because on the margins you get less Al Sharpton, you get less anti-White guy stuff for your son in College, you get less purges of White guys in your company.

    Oh, you still get them. But there is less. And living another day is how most people operate.

    Starting another Party is not relevant. It would take twenty years to build up infrastructure to get a candidate on the ballot, and voters out for Presidential elections. As noted above, ONLY Presidential elections matter. Yes Democrat officeholders are ticked off at the loss of a good thing when they get voted out. No matter, Obama or Hillary! or Al Gore the Manbearpig will simply appoint them Assistant Secretary for Human Rights or something and they'll tell Governors how many White guys get persecuted for not going the Bruce Jenner route if they want Highway Funds or whatever.

    The cost of playing Third Party is potentially, losing your job and not getting another one based on INCREASED MARGINAL ANTI-WHITE GUY activity. Again there is no fundamental change but change on the margins is where most people survive.
  18. Lets not forget two other pet projects of the Bush family that have been flushed down the memory hole.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union#NAFTA_superhighway

    It was just a 8-9 years ago when the TPTB from both parties decided that Lou Dobbs had to go when he started to report on both of these planned atrocities and acts of treason.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Castaneda's book from about 2011 has a footnote giving a shout-out to the insiders working on the North American Economic Union:

    In a footnote, Castañeda praises the planning for a “North American Economic Union, or Common Market” still being done by “the North American Forum, chaired by George Schultz, Pedro Aspe, and Peter Lougheed…

    , @Steve Sailer
    Here's what Castaneda told the L.A. Times in 2001 about the new Mexican government's hopes for an EU for North America:

    “That's what Fox essentially wants, the type of resource transfers that occurred in Spain and, before Spain, in Ireland, and, after Spain, in Portugal and Greece. The Germans were willing to build highways in Spain. Somebody else has to build our highways. We don't have the money.”

    [Jorge Castaneda: Mexico`s Man Abroad, by Sergio Munoz,, August 12, 2001]

    , @TB2
    And George W. Bush's attempt to shove Turkey down the throat of the EU, something that would have opened up Europe to unlimited Muslim immigration and would have been the end of Western Civilization in a single blow.
  19. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Lets not forget two other pet projects of the Bush family that have been flushed down the memory hole.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union#NAFTA_superhighway

    It was just a 8-9 years ago when the TPTB from both parties decided that Lou Dobbs had to go when he started to report on both of these planned atrocities and acts of treason.

    Castaneda’s book from about 2011 has a footnote giving a shout-out to the insiders working on the North American Economic Union:

    In a footnote, Castañeda praises the planning for a “North American Economic Union, or Common Market” still being done by “the North American Forum, chaired by George Schultz, Pedro Aspe, and Peter Lougheed…

  20. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Lets not forget two other pet projects of the Bush family that have been flushed down the memory hole.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union#NAFTA_superhighway

    It was just a 8-9 years ago when the TPTB from both parties decided that Lou Dobbs had to go when he started to report on both of these planned atrocities and acts of treason.

    Here’s what Castaneda told the L.A. Times in 2001 about the new Mexican government’s hopes for an EU for North America:

    “That’s what Fox essentially wants, the type of resource transfers that occurred in Spain and, before Spain, in Ireland, and, after Spain, in Portugal and Greece. The Germans were willing to build highways in Spain. Somebody else has to build our highways. We don’t have the money.”

    [Jorge Castaneda: Mexico`s Man Abroad, by Sergio Munoz,, August 12, 2001]

    • Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
    I am so glad you mentioned that the Mexicans are out in the open acknowledging these treasons.

    Folks who call in to talk radio, WIBC here in Indianapolis, mentioning the North American Union and the Bush family are treated as kooks by the state's Republican establishment.

    Some insane "Deep State" conspiracies are true.

    In Indiana the Republican party has waged a war for over a decade on anyone who is not a Loyal Bushy; Dan Burton, John Hostettler, Richard Mourdock and now Marlin Stutzman....

    Instead we are left with traitorous non-entities like Gov Mike Pence , Rep Susan Brooks and Todd Young, and Sen Dan Coats.
    , @MartianObserver
    I'm not a fan of solely blaming Greece and Spain and Ireland for their economic problems. The Germans were willing to build highways because of a lack of investment opportunities in Germany. Why wasn't German capital funding investment in Germany? Capital has to go somewhere and Germany and other core economies simply weren't attractive enough so capital flowed abroad. And they weren't just building highways.

    Capital outflows from Germany and other northern economies, blew up huge real estate bubble, financed massive credit-based consumption booms, and funded high budget deficits. Without the Euro, Germany would most likely still be sick man of Europe it was in the early 2000s. The Euro has been very, very, good for the other core economies.

    My guess is that, in a North American Union, American capital flows in Mexico will fund a huge real estate bubbles and consumption booms and a little leftover for oil and infrastructure.
  21. @Steve Sailer
    Here's what Castaneda told the L.A. Times in 2001 about the new Mexican government's hopes for an EU for North America:

    “That's what Fox essentially wants, the type of resource transfers that occurred in Spain and, before Spain, in Ireland, and, after Spain, in Portugal and Greece. The Germans were willing to build highways in Spain. Somebody else has to build our highways. We don't have the money.”

    [Jorge Castaneda: Mexico`s Man Abroad, by Sergio Munoz,, August 12, 2001]

    I am so glad you mentioned that the Mexicans are out in the open acknowledging these treasons.

    Folks who call in to talk radio, WIBC here in Indianapolis, mentioning the North American Union and the Bush family are treated as kooks by the state’s Republican establishment.

    Some insane “Deep State” conspiracies are true.

    In Indiana the Republican party has waged a war for over a decade on anyone who is not a Loyal Bushy; Dan Burton, John Hostettler, Richard Mourdock and now Marlin Stutzman….

    Instead we are left with traitorous non-entities like Gov Mike Pence , Rep Susan Brooks and Todd Young, and Sen Dan Coats.

  22. @Steve Sailer
    Here's what Castaneda told the L.A. Times in 2001 about the new Mexican government's hopes for an EU for North America:

    “That's what Fox essentially wants, the type of resource transfers that occurred in Spain and, before Spain, in Ireland, and, after Spain, in Portugal and Greece. The Germans were willing to build highways in Spain. Somebody else has to build our highways. We don't have the money.”

    [Jorge Castaneda: Mexico`s Man Abroad, by Sergio Munoz,, August 12, 2001]

    I’m not a fan of solely blaming Greece and Spain and Ireland for their economic problems. The Germans were willing to build highways because of a lack of investment opportunities in Germany. Why wasn’t German capital funding investment in Germany? Capital has to go somewhere and Germany and other core economies simply weren’t attractive enough so capital flowed abroad. And they weren’t just building highways.

    Capital outflows from Germany and other northern economies, blew up huge real estate bubble, financed massive credit-based consumption booms, and funded high budget deficits. Without the Euro, Germany would most likely still be sick man of Europe it was in the early 2000s. The Euro has been very, very, good for the other core economies.

    My guess is that, in a North American Union, American capital flows in Mexico will fund a huge real estate bubbles and consumption booms and a little leftover for oil and infrastructure.

    • Replies: @Another Canadian

    My guess is that, in a North American Union, American capital flows in Mexico will fund a huge real estate bubbles and consumption booms and a little leftover for oil and infrastructure.
     
    Just attend a Mexican timeshare presentation, it's already happening. And you can buy them for $1 on Ebay instead.
    , @Anonymous
    Germany underwent a lot of structural reforms of its labor market in the Schroeder era. That's a far more plausible explanation for its resurging economy. Otherwise, why shouldn't have other economies have profited from the euro when they were already in better shape?
  23. @MartianObserver
    I'm not a fan of solely blaming Greece and Spain and Ireland for their economic problems. The Germans were willing to build highways because of a lack of investment opportunities in Germany. Why wasn't German capital funding investment in Germany? Capital has to go somewhere and Germany and other core economies simply weren't attractive enough so capital flowed abroad. And they weren't just building highways.

    Capital outflows from Germany and other northern economies, blew up huge real estate bubble, financed massive credit-based consumption booms, and funded high budget deficits. Without the Euro, Germany would most likely still be sick man of Europe it was in the early 2000s. The Euro has been very, very, good for the other core economies.

    My guess is that, in a North American Union, American capital flows in Mexico will fund a huge real estate bubbles and consumption booms and a little leftover for oil and infrastructure.

    My guess is that, in a North American Union, American capital flows in Mexico will fund a huge real estate bubbles and consumption booms and a little leftover for oil and infrastructure.

    Just attend a Mexican timeshare presentation, it’s already happening. And you can buy them for $1 on Ebay instead.

  24. Dubya was perhaps the most treasonous president the USA ever had (and that’s really saying something!). In the 199o’s he had an interview with the magazine Mother Jones in which he explained why mexicans were in texas: because texans would not chop cedar or lay tar in the heat of a Texas August.

    Talk about an economic traitor. How on earth did he ever get elected to office??

    As for the national character of mexico, in some ways I find it attractive.

    But mexico is a dangerous place. My family had a livestock ranch on the rio grande river out in the desert of west texas. Sometimes our livestock would cross the river into mexico. We always had a gun when we crossed the river to recover them. Some of the mexicans in that wild and unpopulated desert area of mexico would kill americans when given the chance (this was in the 60s and early 70s).

  25. @anowow
    Let's insert a little clas warfare in here. The Bushes are an extreme example of why middle class and lower class whites should have absolutely no sense of loyalty with our elites, but the rot is much more widespread.

    But the peons still do. Let a Donald Sterling suffer some indignities and the howls of outraged solidarity from the right and alt-right is predictable and sickening. You think Donald has any solidarity with your average guy? Far better to sit back and enjoy the schaudenfreude as you watch the system devour one of its own.

    Tom Wolfe understands the complete lack of solidarity successful alpha types, regardless of their political or cultural affiliation, with less successful sorts. His "A Man in Full" is a great case study of how "job creators" and atheletes will sell us all down the river or reasons economic or simply to impress NY interior decorators.

    But, like well-trained peasants, or Christian Dispensationalists, or abused spouses, Michael Scott to Ted Packer, the GOPer shock troops will rally to the defense of their beloved abusers. I mean, otherwise, we'd stand a chance of being accussed of bitterness, High School revenge fantasies, or jealousy.

    The thinking seems to be that to avoid looking petty, let's support the Successful, even when they are kicking us in the teeth. That's the only reason somebody like Jack Kemp could ever be taken seriously as a politician or missed when the old scoundrel kicked off.

    Yeah, that’s pretty much what I’ve been saying. You get to the top by stepping on people (while pretending you’re not, which is a tricky balance to strike, so it requires both cunning and social skills), so of course the winners poop on the losers.

    You can still believe capitalism is effective–it’s just a matter of keeping an eye on the winners and making sure they don’t get too big for their britches. Which we, of course, have failed to do.

    Americans’ problem is we were never serfs. Europeans know the rich are the enemy because they have hundreds of years of offenses by knights against peasants to remember. Americans don’t realize the same about Soros and the Koch brothers.

    It’s not some intrinsic property of the rich, either, though as I said you have to be evil to get there–power corrupts, and any human being wants to defend his position. The poor are just as selfish, but they are usually more interested in beer and cigarettes than selling out our country to Mexico or Israel.

  26. American Greed has a good show on Claudio Osorio, the con man who paid Jeb Bush over $400,000. Osorio was such a notorious fraud that he already bankrupted a public, $1 billion computer distributor in Miami before he met Bush. His track record as a con man was a matter of public record. Jeb appears to be more than a little gullible & always looking for easy money. Just look at a photo of Claudio Osorio and ask yourself, does this man look trustworthy?

    • Replies: @Stan D Mute

    Just look at a photo of Claudio Osorio and ask yourself, does this man look trustworthy?
     
    No, but he does look like John Cleese..
    , @TB2
    Bush isn't gullible or stupid, like the rest of the Conservative/Republican leadership he's a crook and a traitor. He knows what he is doing. As far as greasy looks goes, Bush is as shifty looking as anyone I've ever seen. He looks like a corrupt, small town shyster. Ofttimes you can judge a book by its cover, and a lifetime of wheeling, dealing, and stabbing people in the back has imprinted itself on his face.
  27. But to avoid being turned into a banana republic by Guatemala or Honduras

    Surely you mean “like Guatemala or Honduras,” no?

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    That depends on perspective. Mexico doesn't want immigration from their vibrant neighbors to the south, so they have an informal policy of encouraging migrants to keep moving on northward.
    The numbers of Guatemalans that have actually settled in Mexico. If Wikipedia is to be believed, there are 350000 Guatemalans in Mexico, and 1.3 million in the US.
  28. @MartianObserver
    I'm not a fan of solely blaming Greece and Spain and Ireland for their economic problems. The Germans were willing to build highways because of a lack of investment opportunities in Germany. Why wasn't German capital funding investment in Germany? Capital has to go somewhere and Germany and other core economies simply weren't attractive enough so capital flowed abroad. And they weren't just building highways.

    Capital outflows from Germany and other northern economies, blew up huge real estate bubble, financed massive credit-based consumption booms, and funded high budget deficits. Without the Euro, Germany would most likely still be sick man of Europe it was in the early 2000s. The Euro has been very, very, good for the other core economies.

    My guess is that, in a North American Union, American capital flows in Mexico will fund a huge real estate bubbles and consumption booms and a little leftover for oil and infrastructure.

    Germany underwent a lot of structural reforms of its labor market in the Schroeder era. That’s a far more plausible explanation for its resurging economy. Otherwise, why shouldn’t have other economies have profited from the euro when they were already in better shape?

    • Replies: @MartianObserver
    Hartz IV isn't the primary reason for Germany's competiveness. In fact, Hartz IV didn't even raise productivity growth; many other countries including the US, Japan, and Korea had better productivity growth. What Germany did was massively crush wages, keep it low year after year, even as they were rising everywhere else in the Eurozone. This massive internal devaluation undertaken during the good times is what stopped German companies from relocating most of their factories to the cheaper Eastern European states. The Euro subsidised exports which the Deutchmark would've made too expensive. The flipside is that German workers were screwed. Inequality is at it worst since the war and something like a fifth of German children are raised in poverty. Then there's the demographic problems.

    Germany has a massive underinvestment problem. Crumbling infrastructure is a major issue during elections.

    why shouldn’t have other economies have profited from the euro when they were already in better shape?
     
    They didn't stop wages from rising.
  29. FWIW both Jebs and his sons Spanish suck. Thick Anglo accent. They sure don’t pass the shibboleth test. I doubt any hispanics are gonna feel very close to them.

  30. Were George and Jeb Bush both raised my Mexican nannies and housekeepers? I presume the GW Bush’s had a cook…maybe a series of Mexican cooks that put both American and Mexican cuisine on the table. How hands on a mother was Barbara Bush? Did the Mexican servants do some mothering for Jeb and George? Did Jeb know Spanish already when he met Columba in Mexico?
    What I am saying is that Jeb and George have been living close to Mexicans since they were little and absorbing Mexican culture. Same as we have Tex-Mex food today.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    Babs probably wasn't cooking much, given culinary skills highlighted by gin & tonics and bridge mix. That isn't a balanced diet for a youngster.
  31. @OhComeOn
    I think George P. Bush has a better soul than the other Bushes, which is why he'll never run for high office.

    http://onpolitics.usatoday.com/2015/01/02/george-p-bush-oath-texas-land-commissioner/

    “..The Texas land commissioner’s job is often a steppingstone to higher office: Outgoing Lt. Gov. David Dewhurst once held the post.”

  32. @Lot
    Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly. She is also 16 inches shorter than him and from a broken and poor family.

    Columbia is the product of a mixed-race marriage herself. The long article about her someone linked here recently had about six photos of her father, who looks 100% white to me. In fact, the first photo of the father from the 1940's I first thought was an older photo of one of the Bushes. Her mother looks 70% indio/30% white.

    After he left Columba's mother, he married another, much younger, dark-skinned Mexican woman.

    Someone asked about her education. In Mexico mandatory education ends at our 10th grade. Then you can continue for another 2 years at a "prepa" that is considered a "college" with "professors" but given the age of the students, and that it is free with nearly open admissions, is more like an American high school limited to 11th and 12th grade. After than you can go to a regular college. So the fact that Columba did not go to college does not tell us if her education stopped at 16 or 18. Given the era, and her lower-middle-class economic status, both are quite possible.

    But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family.

    Financial disclosure forms filed by George and Barbara Bush in 1984 showed a net worth of $2.1 million, less in real terms than the sale price of Zapata Oil in 1963 (and a little over half of what Geraldine Ferraro and her husband were worth). They were wealthy in the manner of a local patrician family in a middle-sized city. It’s conceivable that Jeb’s grandmother had an eight-figure wad, but that would have been cut up in 1992 among her six children after philanthropic donations were deducted.

    • Replies: @Lot

    Financial disclosure forms filed by George and Barbara Bush in 1984 showed a net worth of $2.1 million
     
    That's $4.72 million in current dollars, at a time when the rich were a lot poorer than they are now.

    I question that number though, the disclosure forms I've seen for government officials are always wide ranges. The mid 80s also saw low oil prices temporally depress the wealth of many Texans.
  33. @Lot
    Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly. She is also 16 inches shorter than him and from a broken and poor family.

    Columbia is the product of a mixed-race marriage herself. The long article about her someone linked here recently had about six photos of her father, who looks 100% white to me. In fact, the first photo of the father from the 1940's I first thought was an older photo of one of the Bushes. Her mother looks 70% indio/30% white.

    After he left Columba's mother, he married another, much younger, dark-skinned Mexican woman.

    Someone asked about her education. In Mexico mandatory education ends at our 10th grade. Then you can continue for another 2 years at a "prepa" that is considered a "college" with "professors" but given the age of the students, and that it is free with nearly open admissions, is more like an American high school limited to 11th and 12th grade. After than you can go to a regular college. So the fact that Columba did not go to college does not tell us if her education stopped at 16 or 18. Given the era, and her lower-middle-class economic status, both are quite possible.

    Columba Bush is really hard to explain.

    Only if you’re addled by the mechanistic norms of the manosphere writers. There are regularities and there are variations. Nothing all that puzzling about that.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    It's weird how they always wonder why this rich and famous man couldn't "do better" than this and that woman that they find too fat or not a perfect 10. It never occurs to them that some women are talented enough in various ways that can make a man overlook their plain jane looks ?
  34. @Veracitor
    Every one of Jeb Bush's children has an arrest record. That's not a good sign. Jeb did not marry well. The Bush family is clearly suffering reversion toward the mean.

    Every one of Jeb Bush’s children has an arrest record. That’s not a good sign. Jeb did not marry well. The Bush family is clearly suffering reversion toward the mean.

    His sons are standard-issue professional class denizens with some pratfalls in their late adolescent years. His daughter is something of a n’er-do-well given her advantages in life (at 37, she has never married, has no children, has worked in a very common-and-garden job for the last 7 years, and her tertiary schooling is limited to associate’s degrees irrelevant to her work).

  35. Don’t forget that most Mexicans are a raving breed of hypocritical-evangelical Christians. In their weekly sermons, which go on sometimes for well over an hour, the US is the natural stand-in for every oppressive nation in the bible, “Egypt and Rome, even the great Babylon.” This has a deep impact on how Mexicans view the US.

  36. @slumber_j

    But to avoid being turned into a banana republic by Guatemala or Honduras
     
    Surely you mean "like Guatemala or Honduras," no?

    That depends on perspective. Mexico doesn’t want immigration from their vibrant neighbors to the south, so they have an informal policy of encouraging migrants to keep moving on northward.
    The numbers of Guatemalans that have actually settled in Mexico. If Wikipedia is to be believed, there are 350000 Guatemalans in Mexico, and 1.3 million in the US.

    • Replies: @yaqub the mad scientist
    Beyond my mangled syntax, I typed a zero too many. According to Wikipedia:

    Guatemalans in Mexico: 35,000
    in the US: 1.3 million

    If that's even remotely accurate, that says a whole lot. Even with the extra zero, that would still say a lot.
  37. @Lot
    Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly. She is also 16 inches shorter than him and from a broken and poor family.

    Columbia is the product of a mixed-race marriage herself. The long article about her someone linked here recently had about six photos of her father, who looks 100% white to me. In fact, the first photo of the father from the 1940's I first thought was an older photo of one of the Bushes. Her mother looks 70% indio/30% white.

    After he left Columba's mother, he married another, much younger, dark-skinned Mexican woman.

    Someone asked about her education. In Mexico mandatory education ends at our 10th grade. Then you can continue for another 2 years at a "prepa" that is considered a "college" with "professors" but given the age of the students, and that it is free with nearly open admissions, is more like an American high school limited to 11th and 12th grade. After than you can go to a regular college. So the fact that Columba did not go to college does not tell us if her education stopped at 16 or 18. Given the era, and her lower-middle-class economic status, both are quite possible.

    The Bush marriage doesn’t fit the narrative that Steve is trying to paint. This was not some alliance between American royalty and Mexican royalty – this was more like marrying the servant girl.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    That's why I call Jeb Bush the Republican Bill de Blasio.
  38. @Veracitor
    Every one of Jeb Bush's children has an arrest record. That's not a good sign. Jeb did not marry well. The Bush family is clearly suffering reversion toward the mean.

    The Bush family is clearly suffering reversion toward the mean.

    Yes, however in this case the mean is the Mexican aboriginal one.

  39. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anowow
    Let's insert a little clas warfare in here. The Bushes are an extreme example of why middle class and lower class whites should have absolutely no sense of loyalty with our elites, but the rot is much more widespread.

    But the peons still do. Let a Donald Sterling suffer some indignities and the howls of outraged solidarity from the right and alt-right is predictable and sickening. You think Donald has any solidarity with your average guy? Far better to sit back and enjoy the schaudenfreude as you watch the system devour one of its own.

    Tom Wolfe understands the complete lack of solidarity successful alpha types, regardless of their political or cultural affiliation, with less successful sorts. His "A Man in Full" is a great case study of how "job creators" and atheletes will sell us all down the river or reasons economic or simply to impress NY interior decorators.

    But, like well-trained peasants, or Christian Dispensationalists, or abused spouses, Michael Scott to Ted Packer, the GOPer shock troops will rally to the defense of their beloved abusers. I mean, otherwise, we'd stand a chance of being accussed of bitterness, High School revenge fantasies, or jealousy.

    The thinking seems to be that to avoid looking petty, let's support the Successful, even when they are kicking us in the teeth. That's the only reason somebody like Jack Kemp could ever be taken seriously as a politician or missed when the old scoundrel kicked off.

    Yes signaling loser is a great way to get ignored. Would that you and leftist consersative figure it out?

    More to the point I know that sometimes it isn’t obvious at this site but the Tom Wolfe put it in a fictional work so it must be true argument isn’t probally the most convincing.

    • Replies: @anowow
    Oh no! Not the dreaded loser accusation!


    Fiction as social commentary and satire has a long history. And Tom Wolfe captures the US much better than so-called non-fiction writers like George Will, David Brooks or any other member of the commentariat.

    And you prove my point, Anon. The minute somebody criticizes the sociopathic wealthy, other Americans run quickly out with "loser"! Get a life, loser! Get a girlfriend! And that is why the Bushes and their ilk do what they do so very easily.


    SFG is right, Americans have too quickly forgotten the lessons of the old world, to our detriment. This is why tribal-nepotistic johnny-come-latelies exploit us so quickly, along with our own sell-out elites.
  40. @anonymous-antimarxist
    Lets not forget two other pet projects of the Bush family that have been flushed down the memory hole.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Union#NAFTA_superhighway

    It was just a 8-9 years ago when the TPTB from both parties decided that Lou Dobbs had to go when he started to report on both of these planned atrocities and acts of treason.

    And George W. Bush’s attempt to shove Turkey down the throat of the EU, something that would have opened up Europe to unlimited Muslim immigration and would have been the end of Western Civilization in a single blow.

  41. Corporations have always desired cheat labor.

  42. @Wilkey
    If the 2016 Republican nomination is a set-up, mere theatre for fools, then Jeb is the establishment candidate while Scott Walker, who has consistently back amnesty since his days in local office, is the "anti-establishment" candidate. But they both believe pretty much the same exact thing.

    “If the 2016 Republican nomination is a set-up, mere theatre for fools, then Jeb is the establishment candidate while Scott Walker, who has consistently back amnesty since his days in local office, is the “anti-establishment” candidate.”

    The Republican party has always been theater for fools as has been the Democrat party.

  43. But to avoid being turned into a banana republic by Guatemala or Honduras, Mexican elites since the Mexican Revolution of 1910-1920 have typically backed anti-American attitudes… American businessmen were welcome in Mexico during the dictatorship of Porfirio Diaz, but he was driven into exile by the Mexican Revolution of 1911.

    Yes, Mexico learnt the hard way that there was danger in allowing large numbers of hardworking, ambitious Americans to settle in Mexican territory.

    There was a documentary from TG4 a few years ago about an Irishman who quite improbably found himself trying to resuscitate the long-neglected Mexican wine industry under Diaz. Like most of the foreigners who arrived during the Porfiriato, he never returned after the Revolution.

    http://www.esras.com/p/Finiuin.htm

    One of the weirdest American migrations into Mexico was the abortive Confederate colony planted there under the (rather unhelpful and short-lived) protection of Emperor Maximilian; it’s obliquely referenced in The Outlaw Josey Wales. One wonders what Colonel Felix Salm-Salm thought of them, though he probably wasn’t the type to hold a grudge.

  44. The Bush Dynasty – and probably most dynasties, if you examined them – has survived via influence-peddling. The up-and-coming generation uses their access to the generation in power to secure favors for their future supporters. When George H.W. Bush was vice president and then president, Jeb Bush made copious requests to Daddy Bush for help for his “friends.” He certainly did the same when his brother was president. Those friends are now his patrons.

    All that was enough to secure him an enormous wad of cash for his upcoming campaign as well as his son’s campaign in Texas last year. But dynasties are like sharks – they can never stop moving. Once you do, the connections dry up, the favors are forgotten, and the patrons die or move on. The George W. Bush presidency was awful enough that there is almost zero chance that the country will elect another Bush to the White House.

    You need about 51% of Republicans to win the nomination. It’s unlikely Jeb Bush can get to that. Even if he does, the chance that the Republicans who opposed him in the primaries will rally to him in the general is pretty minute. There are a lot of bitter Republicans (see: the Tea Party) who would never stoop so low. Count me as one of them. Jeb’s fortunes are tied to the Democrats nominating someone equally as vile. That’s why the Hillary Clinton email scandal is very bad news for Jeb.

    Jeb Bush probably can’t get the nomination. If he does, there’s a very good chance he will split the party. And even if all of that goes well, his only chance at actual victory is to square off in the general against someone as evil as Hillary. You’d have better odds with a lottery ticket.

    The Bush Dynasty is all but done. Their corrupt incompetence killed it.

  45. @Anonymous
    Germany underwent a lot of structural reforms of its labor market in the Schroeder era. That's a far more plausible explanation for its resurging economy. Otherwise, why shouldn't have other economies have profited from the euro when they were already in better shape?

    Hartz IV isn’t the primary reason for Germany’s competiveness. In fact, Hartz IV didn’t even raise productivity growth; many other countries including the US, Japan, and Korea had better productivity growth. What Germany did was massively crush wages, keep it low year after year, even as they were rising everywhere else in the Eurozone. This massive internal devaluation undertaken during the good times is what stopped German companies from relocating most of their factories to the cheaper Eastern European states. The Euro subsidised exports which the Deutchmark would’ve made too expensive. The flipside is that German workers were screwed. Inequality is at it worst since the war and something like a fifth of German children are raised in poverty. Then there’s the demographic problems.

    Germany has a massive underinvestment problem. Crumbling infrastructure is a major issue during elections.

    why shouldn’t have other economies have profited from the euro when they were already in better shape?

    They didn’t stop wages from rising.

  46. I suppose stuff like this is a big reason why people feel the need to believe in Heaven and Hell; so they can comfort themselves with the idea that people like the Bushes roast in hellfire after they die.

    • Replies: @dcite
    "Roast in hellfire?" hmm. A more sophisticated idea of hell is that they will experience everything that every one -- every one -- of their victims experienced. Exactly as their victims experienced it. Intent will come into play, although the road to hell is paved with good intentions, as well all know.
  47. @anowow
    Let's insert a little clas warfare in here. The Bushes are an extreme example of why middle class and lower class whites should have absolutely no sense of loyalty with our elites, but the rot is much more widespread.

    But the peons still do. Let a Donald Sterling suffer some indignities and the howls of outraged solidarity from the right and alt-right is predictable and sickening. You think Donald has any solidarity with your average guy? Far better to sit back and enjoy the schaudenfreude as you watch the system devour one of its own.

    Tom Wolfe understands the complete lack of solidarity successful alpha types, regardless of their political or cultural affiliation, with less successful sorts. His "A Man in Full" is a great case study of how "job creators" and atheletes will sell us all down the river or reasons economic or simply to impress NY interior decorators.

    But, like well-trained peasants, or Christian Dispensationalists, or abused spouses, Michael Scott to Ted Packer, the GOPer shock troops will rally to the defense of their beloved abusers. I mean, otherwise, we'd stand a chance of being accussed of bitterness, High School revenge fantasies, or jealousy.

    The thinking seems to be that to avoid looking petty, let's support the Successful, even when they are kicking us in the teeth. That's the only reason somebody like Jack Kemp could ever be taken seriously as a politician or missed when the old scoundrel kicked off.

    Agreed, the Bushes are a great example why the working and middle-class whites should have no loyalty towards our elites. Eat them yes, but only if we are hungry.

    But the Bushes have the GOP and MSM working for them and give them a gloss that covers up their criminality and venality. Cross them and they’ll crush you just like they did to Lou Dobbs when he exposed NAFTA and the NAU on his show. So most folks don’t see the elites for what they are.

    And yes the solidarity by the right for Sterling was sickening, this guy would step on the people supporting him and not think twice. Fools.

    Let these rich SOBS and the Lefty PC/MC types tear into each other.

    The fact is we shouldn’t support the successful unless they reciprocate, if they don’t, the hell with them. Wage a little class war on the self-serving sociopaths. They either invest in the country that made them rich or have the people treat them like pariahs. Because it’s clear treating the rich kindly has done little for the people or the country because they continue to work assiduously sending our jobs and factories overseas while importing workers to replace Americans and impoverish us.

    They’re a bigger enemy to Americans than ISIS or AQ.

    • Replies: @Anowow
    Try telling your last point to your average American, though. It's the complete truth. Saddam was never my enemy, the poor man was also never a drain on my wallet.


    The psychological abuse has become so pronounced in Americans its developing into a kind of schizofrenia for many in the GOP, particularly regarding our "enemies." Listening to people talk, I was never sure whether we should kill them all or give them democracy and help develop their country and liberate their women. Right now, the GOP rank and file are soured on international development, but that wasn't the case circa 2002-2008. In the same way, you actually here some mumblings about how Putin was mistreating gays. And let a Jeb Bush get in, the peasants will buckle down and mouth poorly understood, contradictory Messianic platitudes once again.
  48. @Anon
    Yes signaling loser is a great way to get ignored. Would that you and leftist consersative figure it out?

    More to the point I know that sometimes it isn't obvious at this site but the Tom Wolfe put it in a fictional work so it must be true argument isn't probally the most convincing.

    Oh no! Not the dreaded loser accusation!

    Fiction as social commentary and satire has a long history. And Tom Wolfe captures the US much better than so-called non-fiction writers like George Will, David Brooks or any other member of the commentariat.

    And you prove my point, Anon. The minute somebody criticizes the sociopathic wealthy, other Americans run quickly out with “loser”! Get a life, loser! Get a girlfriend! And that is why the Bushes and their ilk do what they do so very easily.

    SFG is right, Americans have too quickly forgotten the lessons of the old world, to our detriment. This is why tribal-nepotistic johnny-come-latelies exploit us so quickly, along with our own sell-out elites.

    • Replies: @Anon
    I didn't rush out and called you a loser. I simply pointed out that your self-pitying world view is self reinforciing--you and leftist conservative don't just say support the elites at your own peril, you both launch into winded self-pitying phillipics which convey very little informantion. It leaves the impression that what bothers you is your own status a lot more than elite misbehavior.

    Think of it like panhandling who is more likely to get money: the "I'm sorry to bother you I only need a moment or your time. Mine is a story of woe" guy or the sunny, breezy het lemme get a dollar guy.

    A lot of life is just appearing unfazed--even losers can do that. People don't even dislike losers that much, what they hate is peiple with a chip on their shoulder. It's why Pat B, with a sunny disposition and gift for gab, went a lot further in life than occasionally very bitter and self-pitying Sailer.
  49. @Jack D
    The Bush marriage doesn't fit the narrative that Steve is trying to paint. This was not some alliance between American royalty and Mexican royalty - this was more like marrying the servant girl.

    That’s why I call Jeb Bush the Republican Bill de Blasio.

  50. @Wilkey
    This may explain the peculiar insanity of the Bush family, but it fails to explain why all the other American oligarchs want a flood of Mexicans into our country.

    The oligarchs of America must be feeling particularly invincible about now. They've so rigged the game that they feel they need not fear the electoral consequences of a flood of Third Worlders. Restrict the candidates which voters can vote for. Buy them off before, during ,and after their term of office. Toss out any votes you don't like (see laws banning gay marriage in 30+ states). Get the president to ignore the clear letter of the law when he feels like it. And if Congress and the president really fuck things up (see Obamacare), the courts can always rule that yes means no and up means down, as it's very clear they're about to do in the Burwell case.

    I’ll answer the WHY. It should be obvious.

    First, the power of State Legislatures and Governors, where Republicans dominate, is very limited and declining constantly. Since FDR, power has gone to the President alone, who rules via Executive Orders and various administrative bodies comprised of his appointees, the vast majority needing no Congressional approval, whose said rulings have the FORCE OF LAW.

    Second, in five years White kids will be a minority. Elites have already WON. Its a done deal, anything less than Balkan style hyper-violence directed at Hispanics and Blacks and Asians will do nothing to change that Whites are already a minority in their own country, and a third class minority at that.

    Third, White women in particular embrace anti-White attitudes as an upper class marker, what the “respectable people” believe, and religious belief that does not in any way restrict their sexual adventures or freedom. Critically this is matched by a junior to be sure, but place at the spoils table at the expense of White guys who are being forced out to give their jobs and positions in society to others: Blacks, gays, Hispanics, and White women (at the bottom but still there).

    Fourth, the success of the EU (in surviving at least) has cemented the idea that no borders is a good thing for elites. Don’t underestimate the attraction of that model for elites.

    Fifth, more Mexicans means bidding up asset prices and preventing Japanese style deflation driven by population decline. When media people talk about the need for more workers etc. what they are really saying is have more people bid up prices of media properties, real estate, agricultural commodities, etc. that the Super Zips own or control.

    The most important part is the power of the Presidency. What elites realistically fear is a Ted Cruz or someone like him steamrolling Jeb Bush and a weak Hillary! and building on Presidential Caesar Rule from FDR to Obama; not enforcing laws they don’t like, enforcing out of thin air new ones, etc. This is why Manbearpig, Al Gore, is exploring Iowa. Why Dems are desperate for an Obama, a Black guy without too much Ghetto to get Black and Liberal White votes to crush the possibility of a Cruz. Jeb Bush they don’t fear — no attack articles against him. Sarah Palin? Oh yes they hate hate hate her and fear her too.

    • Replies: @leftist conservative

    Fifth, more Mexicans means bidding up asset prices and preventing Japanese style deflation driven by population decline. When media people talk about the need for more workers etc. what they are really saying is have more people bid up prices of media properties, real estate, agricultural commodities, etc. that the Super Zips own or control.
     
    Very true. They fear population decline. Asset values will drop. They own most of the assets. That is why they love immigration. There is a vicious cycle/loop that runs between the number of worker/consumers and to corporate revenues and to media advertising purchases.


    The most important part is the power of the Presidency. What elites realistically fear is a Ted Cruz or someone like him steamrolling Jeb Bush and a weak Hillary! and building on Presidential Caesar Rule from FDR to Obama; not enforcing laws they don’t like, enforcing out of thin air new ones, etc. This is why Manbearpig, Al Gore, is exploring Iowa. Why Dems are desperate for an Obama, a Black guy without too much Ghetto to get Black and Liberal White votes to crush the possibility of a Cruz. Jeb Bush they don’t fear — no attack articles against him. Sarah Palin? Oh yes they hate hate hate her and fear her too.
     
    The USA at this point is too fragmented, diverse and dis-united to rise up against the elite.
    The system of checks and balances and separation of powers helps the elite cripple the ability of the majority faction from controlling their own government.

    You have a good point in that some future president could potentially rise up and thwart the elite's system of checks and balances and separation of powers. Jim Webb might do it. Maybe Warren. And yes, Palin, too. She really seems to hate DC. The media will try to stop her if she tries to run.
  51. @anowow
    Let's insert a little clas warfare in here. The Bushes are an extreme example of why middle class and lower class whites should have absolutely no sense of loyalty with our elites, but the rot is much more widespread.

    But the peons still do. Let a Donald Sterling suffer some indignities and the howls of outraged solidarity from the right and alt-right is predictable and sickening. You think Donald has any solidarity with your average guy? Far better to sit back and enjoy the schaudenfreude as you watch the system devour one of its own.

    Tom Wolfe understands the complete lack of solidarity successful alpha types, regardless of their political or cultural affiliation, with less successful sorts. His "A Man in Full" is a great case study of how "job creators" and atheletes will sell us all down the river or reasons economic or simply to impress NY interior decorators.

    But, like well-trained peasants, or Christian Dispensationalists, or abused spouses, Michael Scott to Ted Packer, the GOPer shock troops will rally to the defense of their beloved abusers. I mean, otherwise, we'd stand a chance of being accussed of bitterness, High School revenge fantasies, or jealousy.

    The thinking seems to be that to avoid looking petty, let's support the Successful, even when they are kicking us in the teeth. That's the only reason somebody like Jack Kemp could ever be taken seriously as a politician or missed when the old scoundrel kicked off.

    What other choice is there for a White guy without power and connections? Democrats are explicitly anti-White guy, they don’t want them (unless they are gay).

    Moreover, politics only matters at the Presidential level. If the Governor is Republican or Democrat, it really does not matter, because education, law enforcement, environmental, tax policy, and nearly everything else is set by unelected officials appointed by the President who tell Governors what to do. See Ferguson Missouri, or the LAPD consent decree.

    Thus choosing a less bad President matters, because on the margins you get less Al Sharpton, you get less anti-White guy stuff for your son in College, you get less purges of White guys in your company.

    Oh, you still get them. But there is less. And living another day is how most people operate.

    Starting another Party is not relevant. It would take twenty years to build up infrastructure to get a candidate on the ballot, and voters out for Presidential elections. As noted above, ONLY Presidential elections matter. Yes Democrat officeholders are ticked off at the loss of a good thing when they get voted out. No matter, Obama or Hillary! or Al Gore the Manbearpig will simply appoint them Assistant Secretary for Human Rights or something and they’ll tell Governors how many White guys get persecuted for not going the Bruce Jenner route if they want Highway Funds or whatever.

    The cost of playing Third Party is potentially, losing your job and not getting another one based on INCREASED MARGINAL ANTI-WHITE GUY activity. Again there is no fundamental change but change on the margins is where most people survive.

  52. @yaqub the mad scientist
    That depends on perspective. Mexico doesn't want immigration from their vibrant neighbors to the south, so they have an informal policy of encouraging migrants to keep moving on northward.
    The numbers of Guatemalans that have actually settled in Mexico. If Wikipedia is to be believed, there are 350000 Guatemalans in Mexico, and 1.3 million in the US.

    Beyond my mangled syntax, I typed a zero too many. According to Wikipedia:

    Guatemalans in Mexico: 35,000
    in the US: 1.3 million

    If that’s even remotely accurate, that says a whole lot. Even with the extra zero, that would still say a lot.

  53. The Busy Dynasty is clearly a Jewish conspiracy!

    • Replies: @Priss Factor
    "The Busy Dynasty is clearly a Jewish conspiracy!"

    Adelson loves it.
  54. @Lot
    Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly. She is also 16 inches shorter than him and from a broken and poor family.

    Columbia is the product of a mixed-race marriage herself. The long article about her someone linked here recently had about six photos of her father, who looks 100% white to me. In fact, the first photo of the father from the 1940's I first thought was an older photo of one of the Bushes. Her mother looks 70% indio/30% white.

    After he left Columba's mother, he married another, much younger, dark-skinned Mexican woman.

    Someone asked about her education. In Mexico mandatory education ends at our 10th grade. Then you can continue for another 2 years at a "prepa" that is considered a "college" with "professors" but given the age of the students, and that it is free with nearly open admissions, is more like an American high school limited to 11th and 12th grade. After than you can go to a regular college. So the fact that Columba did not go to college does not tell us if her education stopped at 16 or 18. Given the era, and her lower-middle-class economic status, both are quite possible.

    “Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly. She is also 16 inches shorter than him and from a broken and poor family.”

    He probably digs both A) short chicks, and B) her personality. Not necessarily in that order.

    I was once with a very short woman, and I found it somewhat erotic, the way I towered over her.

    But I agree that Columba isn’t looking too attractive these days. That’s boy’s haircut isn’t doing her any favors.

  55. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @anowow
    Oh no! Not the dreaded loser accusation!


    Fiction as social commentary and satire has a long history. And Tom Wolfe captures the US much better than so-called non-fiction writers like George Will, David Brooks or any other member of the commentariat.

    And you prove my point, Anon. The minute somebody criticizes the sociopathic wealthy, other Americans run quickly out with "loser"! Get a life, loser! Get a girlfriend! And that is why the Bushes and their ilk do what they do so very easily.


    SFG is right, Americans have too quickly forgotten the lessons of the old world, to our detriment. This is why tribal-nepotistic johnny-come-latelies exploit us so quickly, along with our own sell-out elites.

    I didn’t rush out and called you a loser. I simply pointed out that your self-pitying world view is self reinforciing–you and leftist conservative don’t just say support the elites at your own peril, you both launch into winded self-pitying phillipics which convey very little informantion. It leaves the impression that what bothers you is your own status a lot more than elite misbehavior.

    Think of it like panhandling who is more likely to get money: the “I’m sorry to bother you I only need a moment or your time. Mine is a story of woe” guy or the sunny, breezy het lemme get a dollar guy.

    A lot of life is just appearing unfazed–even losers can do that. People don’t even dislike losers that much, what they hate is peiple with a chip on their shoulder. It’s why Pat B, with a sunny disposition and gift for gab, went a lot further in life than occasionally very bitter and self-pitying Sailer.

  56. @bjdubbs
    American Greed has a good show on Claudio Osorio, the con man who paid Jeb Bush over $400,000. Osorio was such a notorious fraud that he already bankrupted a public, $1 billion computer distributor in Miami before he met Bush. His track record as a con man was a matter of public record. Jeb appears to be more than a little gullible & always looking for easy money. Just look at a photo of Claudio Osorio and ask yourself, does this man look trustworthy?

    Just look at a photo of Claudio Osorio and ask yourself, does this man look trustworthy?

    No, but he does look like John Cleese..

  57. @Art Deco
    Columba Bush is really hard to explain.
    --
    Only if you're addled by the mechanistic norms of the manosphere writers. There are regularities and there are variations. Nothing all that puzzling about that.

    It’s weird how they always wonder why this rich and famous man couldn’t “do better” than this and that woman that they find too fat or not a perfect 10. It never occurs to them that some women are talented enough in various ways that can make a man overlook their plain jane looks ?

  58. The US ambassador to S. Korea, who was just today attacked, was – briefly – a US Navy intelligence officer, just as George P. Bush was.

    Is this some new kind of resume filler for children of the elite and near-elite? Naval intelligence sounds real manly, but probably involves no more danger to life-and-limb than does being a regional manager for Target. It does however burnish one’s credentials for higher office.

    • Replies: @Wilkey
    "Is this some new kind of resume filler for children of the elite and near-elite? Naval intelligence sounds real manly, but probably involves no more danger to life-and-limb than does being a regional manager for Target."

    Lippert's wiki bio says that he received a Bronze Star for serving a year in Iraq. God only knows if it was actually earned - he was already close friends with Barack Obama when he joined the USNR in 2005.

    But generally, if you're an "elite" who wants to add some military credentials to your resume, the Navy - especially the Reserve - is the safest place to park your ass. The USNR is the least likely to call you up for action. I have a friend who has been in the USNR since before 9/11, and he has never been activated.

    The US Navy has had the lowest KIA rates of any branch of service in every war we have fought. In Korea and Vietnam, the Navy had the lowest number of deaths of all four branches of service, and by far the lowest percentage. Almost 6 times as many marines died in Vietnam as did seamen. Hell, the U.S. Merchant Marines lost a far higher percentage of their men during WW2 than the Navy did, and merchant mariners weren't even considered veterans.

    And the comparison between the Navy and the other branches of service gets even starker when you eliminate the handful of Navy MOS's likely to put a seaman in harms way - like SEALs or the occasional aviator. So long as we're not fighting an enemy who can match us at sea, that will remain the case.


    Fraction of service members dying, by war:

    Civil War: Army - 1 in 6; Navy: 1 in 19
    Spanish-American War: Army - 1 in 120; Navy: 1 in 2300
    World War 1: Army - 1 in 40; Navy: 1 in 70
    World War 2: Army - 1 in 35; Navy: 1 in 67
    Korean War: Army - 1 in 94; Navy: 1 in 1680
    Vietnam War: Army - 1 in 114; Navy: 1 in 708

  59. @Mr. Anon
    The US ambassador to S. Korea, who was just today attacked, was - briefly - a US Navy intelligence officer, just as George P. Bush was.

    Is this some new kind of resume filler for children of the elite and near-elite? Naval intelligence sounds real manly, but probably involves no more danger to life-and-limb than does being a regional manager for Target. It does however burnish one's credentials for higher office.

    “Is this some new kind of resume filler for children of the elite and near-elite? Naval intelligence sounds real manly, but probably involves no more danger to life-and-limb than does being a regional manager for Target.”

    Lippert’s wiki bio says that he received a Bronze Star for serving a year in Iraq. God only knows if it was actually earned – he was already close friends with Barack Obama when he joined the USNR in 2005.

    But generally, if you’re an “elite” who wants to add some military credentials to your resume, the Navy – especially the Reserve – is the safest place to park your ass. The USNR is the least likely to call you up for action. I have a friend who has been in the USNR since before 9/11, and he has never been activated.

    The US Navy has had the lowest KIA rates of any branch of service in every war we have fought. In Korea and Vietnam, the Navy had the lowest number of deaths of all four branches of service, and by far the lowest percentage. Almost 6 times as many marines died in Vietnam as did seamen. Hell, the U.S. Merchant Marines lost a far higher percentage of their men during WW2 than the Navy did, and merchant mariners weren’t even considered veterans.

    And the comparison between the Navy and the other branches of service gets even starker when you eliminate the handful of Navy MOS’s likely to put a seaman in harms way – like SEALs or the occasional aviator. So long as we’re not fighting an enemy who can match us at sea, that will remain the case.

    Fraction of service members dying, by war:

    Civil War: Army – 1 in 6; Navy: 1 in 19
    Spanish-American War: Army – 1 in 120; Navy: 1 in 2300
    World War 1: Army – 1 in 40; Navy: 1 in 70
    World War 2: Army – 1 in 35; Navy: 1 in 67
    Korean War: Army – 1 in 94; Navy: 1 in 1680
    Vietnam War: Army – 1 in 114; Navy: 1 in 708

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    In Whit Stillman's Barcelona, isn't one of the protagonists a U.S. Naval officer, perhaps in intelligence, with the world's greatest job of going to parties in a shiny uniform to make the U.S. Navy more popular in Barcelona?
    , @Truth
    The Army has MOS, the Navy has "ratings."
  60. @Wilkey
    "Is this some new kind of resume filler for children of the elite and near-elite? Naval intelligence sounds real manly, but probably involves no more danger to life-and-limb than does being a regional manager for Target."

    Lippert's wiki bio says that he received a Bronze Star for serving a year in Iraq. God only knows if it was actually earned - he was already close friends with Barack Obama when he joined the USNR in 2005.

    But generally, if you're an "elite" who wants to add some military credentials to your resume, the Navy - especially the Reserve - is the safest place to park your ass. The USNR is the least likely to call you up for action. I have a friend who has been in the USNR since before 9/11, and he has never been activated.

    The US Navy has had the lowest KIA rates of any branch of service in every war we have fought. In Korea and Vietnam, the Navy had the lowest number of deaths of all four branches of service, and by far the lowest percentage. Almost 6 times as many marines died in Vietnam as did seamen. Hell, the U.S. Merchant Marines lost a far higher percentage of their men during WW2 than the Navy did, and merchant mariners weren't even considered veterans.

    And the comparison between the Navy and the other branches of service gets even starker when you eliminate the handful of Navy MOS's likely to put a seaman in harms way - like SEALs or the occasional aviator. So long as we're not fighting an enemy who can match us at sea, that will remain the case.


    Fraction of service members dying, by war:

    Civil War: Army - 1 in 6; Navy: 1 in 19
    Spanish-American War: Army - 1 in 120; Navy: 1 in 2300
    World War 1: Army - 1 in 40; Navy: 1 in 70
    World War 2: Army - 1 in 35; Navy: 1 in 67
    Korean War: Army - 1 in 94; Navy: 1 in 1680
    Vietnam War: Army - 1 in 114; Navy: 1 in 708

    In Whit Stillman’s Barcelona, isn’t one of the protagonists a U.S. Naval officer, perhaps in intelligence, with the world’s greatest job of going to parties in a shiny uniform to make the U.S. Navy more popular in Barcelona?

    • Replies: @D. K.
    I saw "Barcelona" (1994) on TCM, a few months ago, along with "Metropolitan" (1990)-- which I had seen before, a couple of times-- when Whit Stillman was prime-time host Robert Osborne's guest, one Sunday night. The character 'Fred Boynton' (played by Chris Eigeman, who had played the similarly cynical and snide 'Nick Smith' in "Metropolitan") was a Navy officer who did advance work for the fleet (I forget which one, number-wise). I think that he would properly be called a Public Affairs Officer, or something similar; he was not an Intelligence Officer. It was a very good movie, although I still prefer "Metropolitan" (in no small part because of the lovely young Carolyn Farina!). I have yet to see the final installment in the trilogy, "The Last Days of Disco" (1998)-- although, in the wake of that Sunday-night double-feature on TCM, I did get the novelization, by Whit Stillman himself, from my local library and read it a couple of times. (He is a better filmmaker than novelist, in my estimation, but it was not a bad read-- obviously, since I read it twice.)
  61. @Whiskey
    I'll answer the WHY. It should be obvious.

    First, the power of State Legislatures and Governors, where Republicans dominate, is very limited and declining constantly. Since FDR, power has gone to the President alone, who rules via Executive Orders and various administrative bodies comprised of his appointees, the vast majority needing no Congressional approval, whose said rulings have the FORCE OF LAW.

    Second, in five years White kids will be a minority. Elites have already WON. Its a done deal, anything less than Balkan style hyper-violence directed at Hispanics and Blacks and Asians will do nothing to change that Whites are already a minority in their own country, and a third class minority at that.

    Third, White women in particular embrace anti-White attitudes as an upper class marker, what the "respectable people" believe, and religious belief that does not in any way restrict their sexual adventures or freedom. Critically this is matched by a junior to be sure, but place at the spoils table at the expense of White guys who are being forced out to give their jobs and positions in society to others: Blacks, gays, Hispanics, and White women (at the bottom but still there).

    Fourth, the success of the EU (in surviving at least) has cemented the idea that no borders is a good thing for elites. Don't underestimate the attraction of that model for elites.

    Fifth, more Mexicans means bidding up asset prices and preventing Japanese style deflation driven by population decline. When media people talk about the need for more workers etc. what they are really saying is have more people bid up prices of media properties, real estate, agricultural commodities, etc. that the Super Zips own or control.

    The most important part is the power of the Presidency. What elites realistically fear is a Ted Cruz or someone like him steamrolling Jeb Bush and a weak Hillary! and building on Presidential Caesar Rule from FDR to Obama; not enforcing laws they don't like, enforcing out of thin air new ones, etc. This is why Manbearpig, Al Gore, is exploring Iowa. Why Dems are desperate for an Obama, a Black guy without too much Ghetto to get Black and Liberal White votes to crush the possibility of a Cruz. Jeb Bush they don't fear -- no attack articles against him. Sarah Palin? Oh yes they hate hate hate her and fear her too.

    Fifth, more Mexicans means bidding up asset prices and preventing Japanese style deflation driven by population decline. When media people talk about the need for more workers etc. what they are really saying is have more people bid up prices of media properties, real estate, agricultural commodities, etc. that the Super Zips own or control.

    Very true. They fear population decline. Asset values will drop. They own most of the assets. That is why they love immigration. There is a vicious cycle/loop that runs between the number of worker/consumers and to corporate revenues and to media advertising purchases.

    The most important part is the power of the Presidency. What elites realistically fear is a Ted Cruz or someone like him steamrolling Jeb Bush and a weak Hillary! and building on Presidential Caesar Rule from FDR to Obama; not enforcing laws they don’t like, enforcing out of thin air new ones, etc. This is why Manbearpig, Al Gore, is exploring Iowa. Why Dems are desperate for an Obama, a Black guy without too much Ghetto to get Black and Liberal White votes to crush the possibility of a Cruz. Jeb Bush they don’t fear — no attack articles against him. Sarah Palin? Oh yes they hate hate hate her and fear her too.

    The USA at this point is too fragmented, diverse and dis-united to rise up against the elite.
    The system of checks and balances and separation of powers helps the elite cripple the ability of the majority faction from controlling their own government.

    You have a good point in that some future president could potentially rise up and thwart the elite’s system of checks and balances and separation of powers. Jim Webb might do it. Maybe Warren. And yes, Palin, too. She really seems to hate DC. The media will try to stop her if she tries to run.

  62. It’s interesting about Jeb’s wife. A tall, rich, accomplished guy marries a short Mexican. Certainly not for me. Is he really, really beta? I’m just decent looking and relatively poor and can do better than that.

  63. Lot says:
    @Art Deco
    But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family.
    --
    Financial disclosure forms filed by George and Barbara Bush in 1984 showed a net worth of $2.1 million, less in real terms than the sale price of Zapata Oil in 1963 (and a little over half of what Geraldine Ferraro and her husband were worth). They were wealthy in the manner of a local patrician family in a middle-sized city. It's conceivable that Jeb's grandmother had an eight-figure wad, but that would have been cut up in 1992 among her six children after philanthropic donations were deducted.

    Financial disclosure forms filed by George and Barbara Bush in 1984 showed a net worth of $2.1 million

    That’s $4.72 million in current dollars, at a time when the rich were a lot poorer than they are now.

    I question that number though, the disclosure forms I’ve seen for government officials are always wide ranges. The mid 80s also saw low oil prices temporally depress the wealth of many Texans.

  64. “Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly.”

    “But I agree that Columba isn’t looking too attractive these days. That’s boy’s haircut isn’t doing her any favors.”

    On average, men and women age badly. Why the fixation on looks?

    “Still no matter how you cut it, the Bush’s are traitors given their agenda.”

    No more traitorous than the the padrones—Italian-Americans who sought out their brethren with promises of work, only to shortchange them with weekly “finder’s fee”—or the Irish, who were notorious for their pay for play schemes. The Bush legacy is in reality a lesson in opportunistic capitalism.

    “…but it fails to explain why all the other American oligarchs want a flood of Mexicans into our country.”

    Capitalism [duh]. Cheap labor, large profits. It ALWAYS has been that way.

    “Some of the mexicans in that wild and unpopulated desert area of mexico would kill americans when given the chance”

    Ok, Cochise, so how many documented cases are you able to cite?

    “You have a good point in that some future president could potentially rise up and thwart the elite’s system of checks and balances and separation of powers. Jim Webb might do it. Maybe Warren. And yes, Palin, too.”

    Really, now, checks and balances is elitist? And, seriously, Palin? Wow, just wow.

  65. TB2 [AKA "JohnB"] says:
    @bjdubbs
    American Greed has a good show on Claudio Osorio, the con man who paid Jeb Bush over $400,000. Osorio was such a notorious fraud that he already bankrupted a public, $1 billion computer distributor in Miami before he met Bush. His track record as a con man was a matter of public record. Jeb appears to be more than a little gullible & always looking for easy money. Just look at a photo of Claudio Osorio and ask yourself, does this man look trustworthy?

    Bush isn’t gullible or stupid, like the rest of the Conservative/Republican leadership he’s a crook and a traitor. He knows what he is doing. As far as greasy looks goes, Bush is as shifty looking as anyone I’ve ever seen. He looks like a corrupt, small town shyster. Ofttimes you can judge a book by its cover, and a lifetime of wheeling, dealing, and stabbing people in the back has imprinted itself on his face.

  66. @rod1963
    Agreed, the Bushes are a great example why the working and middle-class whites should have no loyalty towards our elites. Eat them yes, but only if we are hungry.

    But the Bushes have the GOP and MSM working for them and give them a gloss that covers up their criminality and venality. Cross them and they'll crush you just like they did to Lou Dobbs when he exposed NAFTA and the NAU on his show. So most folks don't see the elites for what they are.

    And yes the solidarity by the right for Sterling was sickening, this guy would step on the people supporting him and not think twice. Fools.

    Let these rich SOBS and the Lefty PC/MC types tear into each other.

    The fact is we shouldn't support the successful unless they reciprocate, if they don't, the hell with them. Wage a little class war on the self-serving sociopaths. They either invest in the country that made them rich or have the people treat them like pariahs. Because it's clear treating the rich kindly has done little for the people or the country because they continue to work assiduously sending our jobs and factories overseas while importing workers to replace Americans and impoverish us.

    They're a bigger enemy to Americans than ISIS or AQ.

    Try telling your last point to your average American, though. It’s the complete truth. Saddam was never my enemy, the poor man was also never a drain on my wallet.

    The psychological abuse has become so pronounced in Americans its developing into a kind of schizofrenia for many in the GOP, particularly regarding our “enemies.” Listening to people talk, I was never sure whether we should kill them all or give them democracy and help develop their country and liberate their women. Right now, the GOP rank and file are soured on international development, but that wasn’t the case circa 2002-2008. In the same way, you actually here some mumblings about how Putin was mistreating gays. And let a Jeb Bush get in, the peasants will buckle down and mouth poorly understood, contradictory Messianic platitudes once again.

  67. @Clyde
    Were George and Jeb Bush both raised my Mexican nannies and housekeepers? I presume the GW Bush's had a cook...maybe a series of Mexican cooks that put both American and Mexican cuisine on the table. How hands on a mother was Barbara Bush? Did the Mexican servants do some mothering for Jeb and George? Did Jeb know Spanish already when he met Columba in Mexico?
    What I am saying is that Jeb and George have been living close to Mexicans since they were little and absorbing Mexican culture. Same as we have Tex-Mex food today.

    Babs probably wasn’t cooking much, given culinary skills highlighted by gin & tonics and bridge mix. That isn’t a balanced diet for a youngster.

  68. @Jewish Conservative Race Realist
    The Busy Dynasty is clearly a Jewish conspiracy!

    “The Busy Dynasty is clearly a Jewish conspiracy!”

    Adelson loves it.

  69. @Steve Sailer
    In Whit Stillman's Barcelona, isn't one of the protagonists a U.S. Naval officer, perhaps in intelligence, with the world's greatest job of going to parties in a shiny uniform to make the U.S. Navy more popular in Barcelona?

    I saw “Barcelona” (1994) on TCM, a few months ago, along with “Metropolitan” (1990)– which I had seen before, a couple of times– when Whit Stillman was prime-time host Robert Osborne’s guest, one Sunday night. The character ‘Fred Boynton’ (played by Chris Eigeman, who had played the similarly cynical and snide ‘Nick Smith’ in “Metropolitan”) was a Navy officer who did advance work for the fleet (I forget which one, number-wise). I think that he would properly be called a Public Affairs Officer, or something similar; he was not an Intelligence Officer. It was a very good movie, although I still prefer “Metropolitan” (in no small part because of the lovely young Carolyn Farina!). I have yet to see the final installment in the trilogy, “The Last Days of Disco” (1998)– although, in the wake of that Sunday-night double-feature on TCM, I did get the novelization, by Whit Stillman himself, from my local library and read it a couple of times. (He is a better filmmaker than novelist, in my estimation, but it was not a bad read– obviously, since I read it twice.)

  70. @Wilkey
    "Is this some new kind of resume filler for children of the elite and near-elite? Naval intelligence sounds real manly, but probably involves no more danger to life-and-limb than does being a regional manager for Target."

    Lippert's wiki bio says that he received a Bronze Star for serving a year in Iraq. God only knows if it was actually earned - he was already close friends with Barack Obama when he joined the USNR in 2005.

    But generally, if you're an "elite" who wants to add some military credentials to your resume, the Navy - especially the Reserve - is the safest place to park your ass. The USNR is the least likely to call you up for action. I have a friend who has been in the USNR since before 9/11, and he has never been activated.

    The US Navy has had the lowest KIA rates of any branch of service in every war we have fought. In Korea and Vietnam, the Navy had the lowest number of deaths of all four branches of service, and by far the lowest percentage. Almost 6 times as many marines died in Vietnam as did seamen. Hell, the U.S. Merchant Marines lost a far higher percentage of their men during WW2 than the Navy did, and merchant mariners weren't even considered veterans.

    And the comparison between the Navy and the other branches of service gets even starker when you eliminate the handful of Navy MOS's likely to put a seaman in harms way - like SEALs or the occasional aviator. So long as we're not fighting an enemy who can match us at sea, that will remain the case.


    Fraction of service members dying, by war:

    Civil War: Army - 1 in 6; Navy: 1 in 19
    Spanish-American War: Army - 1 in 120; Navy: 1 in 2300
    World War 1: Army - 1 in 40; Navy: 1 in 70
    World War 2: Army - 1 in 35; Navy: 1 in 67
    Korean War: Army - 1 in 94; Navy: 1 in 1680
    Vietnam War: Army - 1 in 114; Navy: 1 in 708

    The Army has MOS, the Navy has “ratings.”

  71. @Svigor
    I suppose stuff like this is a big reason why people feel the need to believe in Heaven and Hell; so they can comfort themselves with the idea that people like the Bushes roast in hellfire after they die.

    “Roast in hellfire?” hmm. A more sophisticated idea of hell is that they will experience everything that every one — every one — of their victims experienced. Exactly as their victims experienced it. Intent will come into play, although the road to hell is paved with good intentions, as well all know.

  72. @Lot
    Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special. But Bush was a handsome guy from an extremely rich family. And boy did she age badly. She is also 16 inches shorter than him and from a broken and poor family.

    Columbia is the product of a mixed-race marriage herself. The long article about her someone linked here recently had about six photos of her father, who looks 100% white to me. In fact, the first photo of the father from the 1940's I first thought was an older photo of one of the Bushes. Her mother looks 70% indio/30% white.

    After he left Columba's mother, he married another, much younger, dark-skinned Mexican woman.

    Someone asked about her education. In Mexico mandatory education ends at our 10th grade. Then you can continue for another 2 years at a "prepa" that is considered a "college" with "professors" but given the age of the students, and that it is free with nearly open admissions, is more like an American high school limited to 11th and 12th grade. After than you can go to a regular college. So the fact that Columba did not go to college does not tell us if her education stopped at 16 or 18. Given the era, and her lower-middle-class economic status, both are quite possible.

    “Columba Bush is really hard to explain. In the photos of her at age 18 she fairly cute, but nothing special.”

    I am sure Jeb Bush would disagree with you. Character and charm go for a long way for domestic happiness. By all accounts Columba excels at making a happy home. It appears to be a very happy marriage.

  73. @OhComeOn
    Rarely do I go anti-female...but in George P. Bush's arrest case it is possible that the girl was lying.

    I think you are at the stake of a public relations control.

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