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From Salon a few years ago:

I thought I could reason with Antonin Scalia: A more naive young fool never drew breath

I clerked for Scalia, certain he prized reason. From our leather chairs, we never saw the lives his rulings gutted

BRUCE HAY
FEBRUARY 27, 2016 6:00PM (UTC)

Bruce Hay is a Harvard Law School Professor.

In the two weeks since his death, many have spoken about Antonin Scalia’s undeniable impact on American law. As attention shifts to filling the vacancy he has left on the Supreme Court, I would like instead to talk about his less appreciated impact on contemporary physics. …

Anyway, about his contribution to physics. I am close to one of the victims of his operation, a transgender woman named Mischa Haider, whom I got to know during the course of her work on a Ph.D. in physics at Harvard. She’s an extraordinary polymath — gifted violinist, writer and novelist; fluent speaker of a half-dozen languages; math genius. And physicist. Her intellect would have made our brilliant Justice want to hide his head in a bag, to borrow his charming words from last year’s marriage equality ruling. Those who have any doubt about trans mothers should meet Mischa’s children.

Since coming out as trans a few years ago, this remarkable woman has suffered a debilitating depression. Partly from the transphobia she encounters daily at the allegedly enlightened Harvard; from the constant stares in public; from the indignity of worrying about things the rest of us take for granted, like walking in the street or using a public bathroom without fear of taunts or violence, or taking her children to the park without fear of being humiliated in front of them. And from the pain of rejection by family and former friends who, despite her prodigious achievements, are somehow ashamed to be associated with her.

Beyond all that, it’s her knowledge of what the “culture war” means for trans women across the country, women who are shunned by their families, who are often unable to get jobs and therefore live in poverty, who face shocking levels of assault and murder (2015 was a record year), who attempt suicide at a rate greater than 40 percent. Who are generally excluded from the protection of antidiscrimination laws. Who, on the contrary, are at this moment the subject of dozens of pending pieces of transphobic legislation around the country, such as bills to stigmatize trans children by forcing them to use separate locker rooms at school or to jail trans women for using public bathrooms that match their identity. The drumbeat of organized hatred, calling to mind yellow stars and separate drinking fountains and worse, makes my friend feel like a nonperson, unwelcome in her own country. All this, for the crime of not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.

She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality – for being accorded the most basic human dignity – to think of anything else. She could not live with herself, she tells me, if she did not devote her talents to helping the many trans women whose lives are decimated by the bigotry and ignorance of those around them. Bigotry and ignorance inflamed by demagogues like Antonin Scalia, whose toxic rhetoric has done so much to incite and legitimate fear of gender nonconformity and elevate it to the level of constitutional principle. She is resolved to become a trans rights activist.

So that is Antonin Scalia’s contribution to physics. To drive a woman with a luminous mind from the study of quantum theory and statistical mechanics and condensed matter, and into the urgent project of safeguarding vulnerable people from the inhumanity he dedicated his life to spreading. An inhumanity that survives as his true legacy, safeguarded by deluded acolytes and admirers.

As you might expect, there was a little more to this story than Professor Hay revealed … From The Cut today:

The Most Gullible Man in Cambridge

A Harvard Law professor who teaches a class on judgment wouldn’t seem like an obvious mark, would he?

By Kera Bolonik

It was just supposed to have been a quick Saturday-morning errand to buy picture hooks. On March 7, 2015, Harvard Law professor Bruce Hay, then 52, was in Tags Hardware in Cambridge, Massachusetts, near his home, when a young woman with long reddish-brown hair approached him to ask where she could find batteries.

And then a whole bunch more stuff happened, which Rod Dreher calls The Bonfire of the Tranities …

Professor Hay is now the leader in the clubhouse for the 2019 iSteve Male of the Year award. But the year is still young …

 
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  1. this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.

    i’m done giving these people the benefit of the doubt. in the past i could say they were smart, but see things a different way from me. hence their credentials and positions at ivy league universities. how could they not be smart if they were professors at harvard.

    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything. i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science, without extensive verification from unrelated sources.

    it probably wasn’t always this way, but it’s been this way for 20 years at least. these people are in an academic echo chamber and that’s it. produce zero work of value, and have no idea what they’re talking about. the idea that they are authorities on anything and their ideas and opinions should guide society is laughable bullshit.

    in fact today, it’s probably required that they be dead wrong about everything, in order to get tenure.

    • Agree: Old Prude, fish
    • Replies: @Jack D

    i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science,
     
    This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study (and does not have political implications - e.g. global warming). That being said, keep in mind that in many cutting edge fields of science, the science is not settled and for every expert that says X you can find another one who will tell you not X.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are "on the spectrum" (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.
    , @AnotherDad

    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.
    ...
    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything.
     
    Boy you can say that again. Of course, i myself was stupid enough to waste my time reading through most of this when some guy posted a link yesterday. (Fascinating like a car wreck.)

    That he's a sad sack comes through right away with this weird thing where he's living with his wife--but actually his ex-wife and "mostly platonic" ... wtf!

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off ... draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it. PIV at least three times a week--ok you young bucks can go for it more--keeps the bonding going. (One of our big problems seems to be that white men have let white women wander off the reservation ... perhaps because they aren't getting serviced enough?)

    Then he stumble bumbles into some kind of "relationship" with this girl, without ever giving her a good hard, fill-her-up shag... and then believes her you-made-me-pregnant bullshit. Then he has some sort of emotional relationship with the trans-pig!!! Does this guy have even an milligram of testosterone in him?

    And this moron is a Harvard law professor. LOL.

    One thing that's become clear is this modern minoritarian leftist makes people stupid. Reading this guy's interactions with the girl and tranny you get a distinct impression that beyond his stupidity and emotional neediness the guy's politics has rendered him incapable of critical thinking about these "victims of oppression" ... who are actually (obvious to any non-leftist addled brain) nasty, manipulative pieces of shit.
  2. Alex Jones doing the Lord’s Work on the Vancouver transgender imbroglio.

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
    https://twitter.com/UnleashedComedy/status/1153617946738081794
  3. I’m sort of behind the curve on this: are trans people permitted to molest children yet?

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Google " Jessica Yaniv Child Molester "

    And they've had trannies dressed as clowns teaching six-year-olds anal intercourse in public classrooms. That would've been an arrestable offense a few years ago.

    It's coming down that slippery slope.

    , @guest
    Well, they're permitted to be around them. Which may be the same thing, if you turn your back for a second.
    , @Danindc
    Lol I’m stealing this.
    , @snorlax
    Regardless, better to be molested than convinced to grossly (both senses of the term) mutilate oneself.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "... are trans people permitted to molest children yet?"

    Only in libraries.
    , @Kronos
    Love is Love!
  4. She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality

    Well of course she has. Also, she figured out that academic physics is like really tough and there’s lots of math and stuff.

    All this, for the crime of not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.

    Fair enough, considering that lady physicists are known far and wide for being smoking hot. Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were…yep, you guessed it!

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Well, I'm now halfway through the Bruce Hay paternity article, and not only do I take back what I said here, I think I'll make a clean break and just take back everything I've ever said since I was born. Behind the curve indeed; it just may be time for me to move to an isolated island somewhere.
    , @El Dato

    Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were…yep, you guessed it!
     
    ...too young for being hot academicists?
    , @guest
    She's not a physicist, or technically even an inventor, but if we stretch the meaning of scientist far enough it'll make it to Hedy Lamarr. Is she what we're supposed to picture, along with a vague notion of Madame Curie in a schoolmarm dress?

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-6ufUbKUaW0g/T32-MB-OjiI/AAAAAAAAGbM/2mGJLzmRVsI/s640/$(KGrHqZHJEIE88cr5F,8BPcjOd2ivg~~60_57.jpg
    , @mmack
    Are they permitted? Not yet, but they try, Lord how they try: https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/22/jessica-yaniv-topless-swim-pool-party/

    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=382437

    It appears some people are catching on. Unless you’re a Haaah-vaaahd Professor.
    , @JR.Ewing.78
    Also, if anyone hasn't pointed it out yet, the reason "she" is good at physics is because "she" is a man.
    , @JR.Ewing.78
    Also, if anyone hasn't pointed it out yet, the reason "she" is good at physics is because "she" is a man.
  5. There’s an annual jokey thing called the Bulwer-Lytton* Fiction Contest, in which entrants submit fake first sentences to a pretend-worst novel in the world. A cousin contest, called the Little Lytton, has a “found” category, wherein you submit a sentence published by someone else that would be hilarious if it were the first sentence to a novel. Mr. Hay has produced a gem in his subheadline:

    “From our leather chairs, we never saw the lives his rulings gutted.”

    I would absolutely hate to read that story.

    By the way, I contemplate the misery wrought upon others by decisions all the time. But not from a leather chair, because I don’t own one. So I’m all good, I guess. But

    *After the author of Paul Clifford, which famously opens “It was a dark and stormy night…” Also known for various coinages, for instance “the pen is mightier than the sword.”

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    It is good to focus on that sentence because all lefties do is gut lives. We should remember the German family who wanted to homeschool their kids, extradited with all available energy by Holder and Obama, and told they would never see their children again. And this credentialled idiot is talking about people who are already deeply screwed up, so his "gutting" refers to a failure on the part of society to indulge neurotic selfishness.
    , @snorlax
    Is "it was a dark and stormy night" actually bad prose, or is it more of a "Seinfeld is unfunny" / "Beatles sound generic" / "Halloween is a formulaic slasher" thing? More the second, I think.
    , @Bigdicknick
    In addition to the terrible writing it's a great example of how unhinged leftists are. The job of the judiciary is to judge what the law is, not to create the most optimal laws for society. the whole implication of the article is that scalia failed by not essentially inventing new more optimal laws. That is just an absolutely insane idea and completely contrary to separation of powers. The fact that people like this get the absolute most primo law jobs is nuts.
  6. @Clifford Brown
    Alex Jones doing the Lord's Work on the Vancouver transgender imbroglio.

  7. To read that entire long article from “the Cut” is to descend into the hell that is the modern age.

    Hay is certainly the leader in the clubhouse for Sailer’s Man of the Year award.

    From the article:
    Shuman called Hay to tell him she was pregnant with his baby. She hadn’t had sex with another man in the past year, she said. Hay was stunned; he hadn’t ejaculated during either of their encounters, a side effect of his medication. But he understood that pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm...”

    • Agree: GermanReader2
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.
    , @guest
    "a side effect of his medication"

    What, antidepressants?

    "pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm"

    Do they mean without ejaculation? Because biologically the orgasm is tangential to impregnation.
    , @Kronos
    That “Cut” story is a doozy! Marriage amongst the professorship class is generally rocky at best (I occasionally drove drunk professors home.) But that’s a “don’t stick your dick in crazy” story right there. I’m surprised the MGTOW community hasn’t yelled about it.
    , @RobUK
    This is a man utterly desperate to debase himself in any way possible, at every opportunity.
    , @Alfa158
    There is something to be said for schadenfreude. When I was reading the Cut article I was enjoying it so much that I wished I had popped up a batch of popcorn to enjoy with the article.
    Seeing an asshat like Bruce Hay self-destructing from sheer stupidity, provided comfort that there is still some iota of justice left, even in ClownWorld.
    , @snorlax

    Zacks pushed Hay to ask for a paternity test, but Hay wouldn’t have it. Not only did he trust Shuman, he felt it would have been insulting for a heterosexual cisgender man to question a professed lesbian as to whether she’d had sex with other men. He believed her when she said her sexual relationship with him was an exception.
     
    This despite knowing

    1. She was sharing a house with a penis-having tranny who had fathered her two previous kids and who was listed as the father on the new baby's birth certificate.
    2. She was also sharing the house with her unambiguously male ex-boyfriend.
    , @Olorin
    I've long opined that the only thing worse than an intelligentsia that doesn't mate/marry/breed is one that does.
  8. Things may change between February 2016 and today!

    She’s an extraordinary polymath — gifted violinist, writer and novelist; fluent speaker of a half-dozen languages; math genius. And physicist. … She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality – for being accorded the most basic human dignity – to think of anything else. She could not live with herself, she tells me, if she did not devote her talents to helping the many trans women whose lives are decimated by the bigotry and ignorance of those around them.

    Something out of a Greg Bear or Greg Egan story, shurely?

    She just did the PhD. The brilliancy is still in the future … or not.

    From the other article…

    Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter (she’s called “Sumi”). (Haider’s boyfriend Klein, Hay later discovered)

    No wonder this results in … “unintended consequences”.

    • Replies: @El Dato

    Hay’s relationship with the women could be intoxicating. Even in an international, liberal college town like Cambridge, Hay had never encountered anyone like them, “nearly perfect people” who were “bright and kind and sweet to their children and socially conscious,” and whose family composed a striking, distinctly modern portrait: Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter (she’s called “Sumi”). (Haider’s boyfriend Klein, Hay later discovered, also helped raise the children, who refer to him as “Daddy.”)
     
    Also, something very off-putting in the general feel that as many attributes of diversity unicorns be showelled into actual people. I detect no mental cleanliness.

    I have also suspicions about the "physics brilliance" being buried under "trans advocacy".
    , @Anona

    She just did the PhD. The brilliancy is still in the future … or not.
     
    Her Ph.D. is in applied physics, which is a fall-back when you wash out of hard physics. It's usually the equivalent of some sort of engineering degree -- still real STEM, but not physics. I've seen cases where a physics professor of color has an undergraduate B.S. in physics, and a Ph.D. in physics education, issued by the education department. That's really a fall-back! I've even seen one of those from Stanford where the physics department issued a physics degree to a PoC on the topic of teaching physics to minority populations. What a prostitution of the Stanford brand, laundering a grievance studies degree through the physics department.
    , @Pericles

    Something out of a Greg Bear or Greg Egan story, shurely?
     
    Neal Stephenson, this is your breakout moment. Seize the day.
  9. … and everybody got what they deserved and lived happily ever after.

  10. @El Dato
    Things may change between February 2016 and today!

    She’s an extraordinary polymath — gifted violinist, writer and novelist; fluent speaker of a half-dozen languages; math genius. And physicist. ... She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality – for being accorded the most basic human dignity – to think of anything else. She could not live with herself, she tells me, if she did not devote her talents to helping the many trans women whose lives are decimated by the bigotry and ignorance of those around them.
     
    Something out of a Greg Bear or Greg Egan story, shurely?

    She just did the PhD. The brilliancy is still in the future ... or not.

    From the other article...

    Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter (she’s called “Sumi”). (Haider’s boyfriend Klein, Hay later discovered)
     
    No wonder this results in ... "unintended consequences".

    Hay’s relationship with the women could be intoxicating. Even in an international, liberal college town like Cambridge, Hay had never encountered anyone like them, “nearly perfect people” who were “bright and kind and sweet to their children and socially conscious,” and whose family composed a striking, distinctly modern portrait: Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter (she’s called “Sumi”). (Haider’s boyfriend Klein, Hay later discovered, also helped raise the children, who refer to him as “Daddy.”)

    Also, something very off-putting in the general feel that as many attributes of diversity unicorns be showelled into actual people. I detect no mental cleanliness.

    I have also suspicions about the “physics brilliance” being buried under “trans advocacy”.

  11. Mischa Haider:

    Oof!

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    WtaF is THAT.
    , @anon
    Fuck me. I don't mean that literally either. :(
    , @Lot
    Mischa smiled, took Brice Hay by the hand, and said little boy I’m gonna make you a man!

    http://environment.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/images/hay.jpg
    , @gil
    that's a man baby
    , @nebulafox
    I genuinely thought this was a normal dude with long hair and unfortunate genetics upon first glance.

    So, yeah, not with a thousand Magnums. This is coming from a guy whose taste in women is anything but conventional...
    , @Unladen Swallow
    Dude looks like a lady...not
    , @Lurker
    Heinous.
    , @Bugg
    Looks like Glenn Danzig, if since the 1990s Glenn Danizg ate a great deal of cheeseburgers every day. This guy terachesa class in judgment. The Ivy League is officially somewhere between a sewer and a whorehouse-

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7KLdET1lBM
    , @Oscar Peterson
    You make me feel, you make me feel, you make me feel like a natural woman...
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Mischa Haider:
     
    Dude is the spit and image of a Jewish guy I know who still plays in an 80s Hair Band.
    , @simple_pseudonymic_handle
    There is a thing in Colin Wilson's book on Mysticism where he encounters an (unbeknownst to the extremely naive Wilson) accomplished tranny whom he invites to his home and it kisses him goodbye and surprises him by shoving a monstrous tongue a half foot down his throat. If you learn how to skim the fluff there is some amazing content in his books but that episode surely ain't in that {set}.
    , @Days of Broken Arrows
    Back in college we had a joke for things like this. Even though I'm not in the dining hall, I'll make it here anyway: "Steve -- there's your girlfriend!"
    , @fredyetagain aka superhonky
    That thing is hideous even by (((chosenite))) standards
    , @jesse helms think-alike
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    I saw the picture and my first impression that it was a still of John Blutarski on the set of Animal House.

    About 2000 words into this novella TL;DR set in - can anyone help a brother out and give me a precis of what happened
    , @TWS
    Well at least it won't be mistaken for a woman.
    , @fish
    WOW! Now that "The Big Bang Theory" is off the air the guy who played Raj Koothrapali has really let himself go!
    , @Evocatus
    I am vomit. Grandparent sorrow.
  12. @PennTothal
    To read that entire long article from "the Cut" is to descend into the hell that is the modern age.

    Hay is certainly the leader in the clubhouse for Sailer's Man of the Year award.

    From the article:
    "Shuman called Hay to tell him she was pregnant with his baby. She hadn’t had sex with another man in the past year, she said. Hay was stunned; he hadn’t ejaculated during either of their encounters, a side effect of his medication. But he understood that pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm..."
     

    Thanks.

    • Replies: @Genrick Yagoda
    That is the most unbelievable article I have ever read. Thanks for posting that.

    Would anyone have believed even 30 years ago that such a surreal series of events involving a Harvard professor would occur? If they made a movie of this, no one would see it, since it would be too far fetched.
  13. Bruce Hay is a complete moron that should be terminated for his sheer incompetence at life.

    He is also a probable closet case.

    • Agree: JimDandy, Corn
  14. @PennTothal
    To read that entire long article from "the Cut" is to descend into the hell that is the modern age.

    Hay is certainly the leader in the clubhouse for Sailer's Man of the Year award.

    From the article:
    "Shuman called Hay to tell him she was pregnant with his baby. She hadn’t had sex with another man in the past year, she said. Hay was stunned; he hadn’t ejaculated during either of their encounters, a side effect of his medication. But he understood that pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm..."
     

    “a side effect of his medication”

    What, antidepressants?

    “pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm”

    Do they mean without ejaculation? Because biologically the orgasm is tangential to impregnation.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    “a side effect of his medication”

    What, antidepressants?

    “pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm”

    Do they mean without ejaculation? Because biologically the orgasm is tangential to impregnation.
     
    Yes, that is a side effect of anti-depressants, sometimes for some people. And, no, orgasm is not tangential to impregnation. The author is talking about the man's orgasm.
  15. @PennTothal
    To read that entire long article from "the Cut" is to descend into the hell that is the modern age.

    Hay is certainly the leader in the clubhouse for Sailer's Man of the Year award.

    From the article:
    "Shuman called Hay to tell him she was pregnant with his baby. She hadn’t had sex with another man in the past year, she said. Hay was stunned; he hadn’t ejaculated during either of their encounters, a side effect of his medication. But he understood that pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm..."
     

    That “Cut” story is a doozy! Marriage amongst the professorship class is generally rocky at best (I occasionally drove drunk professors home.) But that’s a “don’t stick your dick in crazy” story right there. I’m surprised the MGTOW community hasn’t yelled about it.

  16. Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Hmm. How many non-trans people were killed that year?
    And are we including motor-vehicle deaths?
    , @anonymous
    The come-hither look is sadly comical.
    , @International Jew
    Steve should ban you for posting that.
    , @Jim Christian
    Meh, throw in puberty-onset obesity, 80% of the fatso-chicks everywhere in public look just like that guy.
    , @EdwardM
    The sad thing is, that's a relatively flattering picture of her compared to some others.
    , @95Theses
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxWKkEOxVOE#t=14.4
    , @95Theses
    Is that a man in there?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxWKkEOxVOE#t=14.4
    , @Cookies
    Damn! She hot!
  17. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    WtaF is THAT.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    The future of America, and its BEAUTIFUL!
    , @El Dato
    It's Karl Weissbier, he works on the pump at my café.
  18. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    Fuck me. I don’t mean that literally either. 🙁

  19. Wow! What a frigging story. And coupling that with the earlier Salon piece where Hays calls Scalia a “naive fool” in contrast to his “extraordinary, gifted, brilliant genius” transsexual “friend” … words fail me. This is like a fairy tale that should be carefully preserved forever as an immortal reminder to never be tempted by liberal, progressive ideology.

    • Agree: Gordo, TomSchmidt
    • Replies: @El Dato

    This is like a fairy tale that should be carefully preserved forever as an immortal reminder to never be tempted by liberal, progressive ideology.
     
    A new kind of Struwwelpeter holding intemporal gems like "The Comeuppance of the Whity Goodthinky", "Dreamy Boy walks in da Ghetto", "Becky oberves" and "The Color out of Space" are demanding to be written, even if they only ever will be read by Chinese.

    Der Struwwelpeter is known for introducing the character of the Tailor (or Scissorman) to Western literature. Some researchers now see the stories in the book as illustrations of many child mental disorders that we know about today.
     
    , @TomSchmidt
    LOL, too!
  20. This Shuman gal actually has a decent reputation score, listing Mr Hay and Ms Zacks as neighbors:

    https://www.mylife.com/maria-shuman/e82053195967518

    • LOL: Jus' Sayin'...
    • Replies: @Kylie
    Apparently you didn't scroll down far enough.

    "Maria Shuman is 36 years old and a dangerous psychopath."

    Or else you use the definition of "decent" approved of by enemies of the patriarchy.
  21. @Mr McKenna
    WtaF is THAT.

    The future of America, and its BEAUTIFUL!

    • Disagree: Hail
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    I've read the story now and I've a feeling your remark is accurate in many more ways than one. Maybe 57 ways, but who's counting?
  22. Sadly, I have to admit to myself that I find nothing about the article surprising or out of the ordinary. Just another anecdote about the status quo inside contemporary academia.

  23. @HammerJack

    She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality
     
    Well of course she has. Also, she figured out that academic physics is like really tough and there's lots of math and stuff.

    All this, for the crime of not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.
     
    Fair enough, considering that lady physicists are known far and wide for being smoking hot. Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were...yep, you guessed it!

    Well, I’m now halfway through the Bruce Hay paternity article, and not only do I take back what I said here, I think I’ll make a clean break and just take back everything I’ve ever said since I was born. Behind the curve indeed; it just may be time for me to move to an isolated island somewhere.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    I really, really wish that either Tom Wolfe or Hunter Thompson (the 1965-era witty and acerbic Thompson, not the later bitter -and-always-hung-over version) had ventured to write about this trans-mess before they died.
    , @JudgeSmails

    Well, I’m now halfway through the Bruce Hay paternity article, and not only do I take back what I said here, I think I’ll make a clean break and just take back everything I’ve ever said since I was born. Behind the curve indeed; it just may be time for me to move to an isolated island somewhere.
     
    I'm confused...not about my sex, or "gender", just confused.
  24. @The Alarmist
    Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/mischa-haider/headshot.jpg

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.

    Hmm. How many non-trans people were killed that year?
    And are we including motor-vehicle deaths?

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Twenty-one is not a "rate".
    , @Bugg
    In the minds of leftists, it's a group of angry white guys chasing a tranny down Main Street of Pleasantville, USA. Reality is very different. Dirty little secret ; good chunk of the transvestite homicides are in fact instances where men have sex with such people to find out during or afterwards said person is or was a man. And a large number of those happen to involve African-American males who view such a surprise as a great dishonor. But that will never be discussed.
    , @Cloudbuster
    A time or two I've looked at these lists that trans groups publish to highlight the violence against trans people. It's rare to find a case where the person was killed because they were trans. They are often killed because of being involved in drugs, prostitution or other crime (like most people who are murdered). I ran across at least one case on such a list, where, ironically, the person was killed by another trans person.
    , @Elli
    "In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed."

    The more people claiming trans status, the more there are to die, by violence or other causes.

    Duh.
  25. @PennTothal
    To read that entire long article from "the Cut" is to descend into the hell that is the modern age.

    Hay is certainly the leader in the clubhouse for Sailer's Man of the Year award.

    From the article:
    "Shuman called Hay to tell him she was pregnant with his baby. She hadn’t had sex with another man in the past year, she said. Hay was stunned; he hadn’t ejaculated during either of their encounters, a side effect of his medication. But he understood that pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm..."
     

    This is a man utterly desperate to debase himself in any way possible, at every opportunity.

    • Replies: @bomag

    ...desperate to debase himself
     
    Such have always been with us, but historically it was largely behind closed doors.

    Now they get the front page, and a place on the podium with our politicians.
  26. @HammerJack

    She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality
     
    Well of course she has. Also, she figured out that academic physics is like really tough and there's lots of math and stuff.

    All this, for the crime of not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.
     
    Fair enough, considering that lady physicists are known far and wide for being smoking hot. Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were...yep, you guessed it!

    Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were…yep, you guessed it!

    …too young for being hot academicists?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Meanwhile, in the real world:

    Wait! US & UK doctors warn against hormones/surgery for trans-identified kids

    Medical professionals in the US and UK are sounding the alarm about the growing use of “hormonal and surgical interventions” for children who are confused about their gender identity, saying that more studies are required.

    Members of the conservative childrens’ advocacy group the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) wrote a letter on Monday to the Surgeon General of the United States, warning about the effects of gender-reassignment surgeries and hormonal drugs on minors, saying such interventions have “not undergone long-term study.”

    ...

    The medical warnings come as the UK’s only child gender clinic, the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), reported significant increases in the numbers of children seeking to transition to the opposite gender – an overwhelming majority of them (74 percent) being young girls seeking to transition to a male identity.

     

    I wonder what the intersection is of people losing their shit about "5G radiation" and "coffee cancer" but then are on-board with messing up people with with complimentary transgendeering?
  27. Now that we have more of the story, the question is:

    Did Hay intend to write his ‘defense’ of Mischa in a way that actually reads like the greatest argument against transitioning ever put to paper?

    Is there a word for this type of essay that purports to defend something, but actually serves as an argument against it?

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce

    Is there a word for this type of essay that purports to defend something, but actually serves as an argument against it?
     
    Failure
  28. I guess professor Hay was not a fan of the Davies brothers.

    Well, I’m not dumb but I can’t understand
    Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
    Oh my Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Was listening to oldies the other night and "Lola" came on, along with "Ob-la-di, Ob-la-da" and I wondered, was this where it all began? I didn't dare wonder where it all might end. Amazing that "Walk on the Wild Side" could be a hit.
    , @Redneck farmer
    I got down on my knees/ and that's the way I wanted to stay/ I always want to be that way/ for my Lola
    , @FPD72
    I think Dr. Hay could have written the lyric, “Well I’m not the world’s most masculine man.”
  29. @El Dato
    Things may change between February 2016 and today!

    She’s an extraordinary polymath — gifted violinist, writer and novelist; fluent speaker of a half-dozen languages; math genius. And physicist. ... She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality – for being accorded the most basic human dignity – to think of anything else. She could not live with herself, she tells me, if she did not devote her talents to helping the many trans women whose lives are decimated by the bigotry and ignorance of those around them.
     
    Something out of a Greg Bear or Greg Egan story, shurely?

    She just did the PhD. The brilliancy is still in the future ... or not.

    From the other article...

    Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter (she’s called “Sumi”). (Haider’s boyfriend Klein, Hay later discovered)
     
    No wonder this results in ... "unintended consequences".

    She just did the PhD. The brilliancy is still in the future … or not.

    Her Ph.D. is in applied physics, which is a fall-back when you wash out of hard physics. It’s usually the equivalent of some sort of engineering degree — still real STEM, but not physics. I’ve seen cases where a physics professor of color has an undergraduate B.S. in physics, and a Ph.D. in physics education, issued by the education department. That’s really a fall-back! I’ve even seen one of those from Stanford where the physics department issued a physics degree to a PoC on the topic of teaching physics to minority populations. What a prostitution of the Stanford brand, laundering a grievance studies degree through the physics department.

    • Agree: jim jones
    • Replies: @Kronos
    Were they mainly male or female POC?
    , @anonymous
    Last year, there were two women with PhDs in physics education who were bitching about not being on a tenure track. This is the crap that's going on in STEM these days.
  30. @Mr McKenna
    WtaF is THAT.

    It’s Karl Weissbier, he works on the pump at my café.

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @anonymous
    His pump don't work, cause the vandals stole the handle.
  31. His piece on Scalia can be seen as his projection of his unconscious and suppressed fears about Haider.

    “An inhumanity that survives as his true legacy, safeguarded by deluded acolytes and admirers

  32. a debilitating depression… attempt suicide at a rate greater than 40 percent

    Because these people are mentally ill, perhaps?

    And from the pain of rejection by family and former friends who, despite her prodigious achievements, are somehow ashamed to be associated with her.

    I think most normal people are embarrassed to be associated with a mentally ill person.

    not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.

    Such as looking like men, because they are?

    • Replies: @guest
    "Such as looking like men, because they are?"

    Yes, exactly. Because you're not supposed to have any notion what a woman looks like compared to a man. Or what a woman's penis might feel like entering you against your will. That's prejudice.
    , @Justvisiting
    In Harvard Square you have to be _really_ crazy for anyone to even notice you, much less stare at you.
  33. https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/bruce-hay-paternity-trap-maria-pia-shuman-mischa-haider.html

    That is one nightmarish f*cked up story Steve.

    Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter

    Oh brave new world…..

    • Replies: @Lot
    Mort Shuman was quite the songwriter. Is his claimed daughter just faking it?

    She doesn’t look anything like Shuman or his French wife.

    http://www.cheny.net/plus/doc/shuman03.jpg
  34. What a lowlife, this Hay. Scalia cut him a break and this is how Hay repays him, after Scalia’s death no less?

    Hay deserved everything he got and then some.

    [Lesson #1 for Justices: Try not to hire clerks who hate you.]

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    Maybe Haider & Shuman actually wrote and submitted the Salon piece when they took his laptop.
    , @JimB
    “What a lowlife, this Hay. Scalia cut him a break and this is how Hay repays him, after Scalia’s death no less?“

    I’m not exactly sure what sort of fact checking went into this Cut piece, but Shuman and Haider sure look and act like gypsies. Coming home after a vacation to find gypsies living in your house with your personal belongings out on the sidewalk is a pretty common problem in Europe, and it can take months to years to evict them. It’s a standard Roma grift. So is the “You are the father of my baby” wheeze.

    , @snorlax
    Clerking for Scalia almost certainly won him his tenured professorship at HLS.

    I know a couple former SCOTUS clerks and not only are they always effusively complementary about the Justice they worked for, but even the Justices they didn't work for, including those they vehemently disagreed with. As far as I can tell other former clerks do the same, including for example Scalia clerk Ian Samuel, who's basically a communist.
    https://twitter.com/isamuel/status/1153820103634370560
    Hay published that tirade against his benefactor right after the man died, instead of having the barest minimum of decency to do so while he was still living, or the sub-minimum decency to at least wait a few months before speaking ill of the dead. What an ass indeed.
  35. @HammerJack
    I'm sort of behind the curve on this: are trans people permitted to molest children yet?

    Google ” Jessica Yaniv Child Molester ”

    And they’ve had trannies dressed as clowns teaching six-year-olds anal intercourse in public classrooms. That would’ve been an arrestable offense a few years ago.

    It’s coming down that slippery slope.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Is that really true? I hesitate to ask because I'm not sure I really want to know. But I guess I should.
    , @Autochthon
    Wow. This is the second time in two nights my mind has been blown by a true story reading like a combination of a film by David Lynch adapting material by Thomas Harris.

    You all owe it to yourselves not to miss the audio of twenty-seven-year-old Yaniv's chanting (to a fifteen-year-old girl) "Your boobies go up and down, up and down, up and down!” in the voice of Elmo (yes, that Elmo).

    https://www.thepostmillennial.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/2.jpg

    Please send more. I've never been more transfixed by such train-wrecks in my life.

    I leave you with the words of commenter Jason W.:

    It puts the wax on the balls or else it faces litigation.
     
  36. @El Dato

    Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were…yep, you guessed it!
     
    ...too young for being hot academicists?

    Meanwhile, in the real world:

    Wait! US & UK doctors warn against hormones/surgery for trans-identified kids

    Medical professionals in the US and UK are sounding the alarm about the growing use of “hormonal and surgical interventions” for children who are confused about their gender identity, saying that more studies are required.

    Members of the conservative childrens’ advocacy group the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) wrote a letter on Monday to the Surgeon General of the United States, warning about the effects of gender-reassignment surgeries and hormonal drugs on minors, saying such interventions have “not undergone long-term study.”

    The medical warnings come as the UK’s only child gender clinic, the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), reported significant increases in the numbers of children seeking to transition to the opposite gender – an overwhelming majority of them (74 percent) being young girls seeking to transition to a male identity.

    I wonder what the intersection is of people losing their shit about “5G radiation” and “coffee cancer” but then are on-board with messing up people with with complimentary transgendeering?

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    I was wondering pretty much the same thing -- what's the overlap between people supportive of medical intervention for children with "gender identity disorder" and people who insist their beef be hormone-free?
    , @Hippopotamusdrome
    This meme obsolete?
    https://img.ifcdn.com/images/d1ce7edf64a3c55c8d137cfbf07b056b211ceaac92e31a037f94e925a0a7a657_1.jpg
  37. His children watched these weirdos arrive at the house. Hay is pathetic, he wrote this ode to his tranny while he was scamming him.

    • Agree: TTSSYF
    • Replies: @JudgeSmails

    His children watched these weirdos arrive at the house. Hay is pathetic, he wrote this ode to his tranny while he was scamming him.
     
    The new "slumming"?
  38. The article about Hay says “he leans left politically.”

    No one is an actual leftist, they just “lean left.” No one “leans right,” they’re “far right” or a “right-winger.” I’m pretty sure these usages are set forth in the journalists’ style guide.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @dearieme
    Or "hard right".
    , @Brutusale
    You have to remember that, in Cambridge, Marx and Lenin would be called "centrists".
    , @Up2Drew
    True that.

    I have friends who are so far left that I know how they are going to land on every single issue before they (invariably) enlighten me on their position. And to a person, they describe themselves as being “slightly left-of-center”.

    These people, in fact, provide a service for me. If I’m not certain how I feel about a societal issue, I just ask them. I know their opinion is ridiculous, irresponsible, and poorly thought out, and immediately take the opposite position.
  39. Rather than study the nuances of this tale of “soyboy meets griftgirl” – as edifying as that might be – I was hoping to perform the simpler task, of viewing Mischa Haider’s physics research, and judging its significance for myself. But all I am finding are trans activist op-eds.

    Haider has a contributor bio at Huffington Post, which provides a few specifics: “at Harvard University.. applications of mathematical and physical models to social networks… research on femtosecond lasers and NMR studies of protein structure. Before coming to Harvard, … high temperature superconductivity at Imperial College. … her research has been published in Applied Physics Letters”.

    So let’s head on over to Applied Physics Letters. Employ the search option in the header, leave publication as “This Publication”, and type in “Haider” as the search term. Three authors named Haider are suggested. It’s not hard to list their publications and see the author’s university affiliations. There was a Niaz Haider from Imperial College, but the topic is not superconductivity, the papers were over 25 years ago, and that person is now a quant in New York. And that was the closest match I found. (But I encourage interested parties to conduct their own search, and see if they can reproduce my null result.)

    Well, until some science turns up, let’s take a look at Haider’s activist writings. Here is a paragraph from a Guardian op-ed dating from October 2018:

    “Transgender erasure is a weapon being used to fight against women’s equality. In order for a mechanism of oppression to exist between two classes in society, differentiation between them is crucial. In the same fashion as interracial relationships and mixed-race children were anathema to segregationists, transgender people pose a serious challenge for patriarchal structures. The inviolable superior status of white people over black people is challenged when there are people who are both black and white. Similarly, in creating gray space between male and female, transgender people subvert the patriarchy.”

    Now it seems to me that being in the excluded middle of these oppressive binaries, has a rather different significance in real life. The pitch in the Guardian article is that when the absoluteness of the distinction between male and female, or black and white, becomes harder to sustain, gender and racial hierarchy as such becomes impossible. But the way it seems to work in real life, is that progressive society simply upholds a new hierarchy that inverts the old, as reparations for the past; and being in the ambiguous middle means that you also get a slightly elevated status, because at least you’re not unambiguously white or unambiguously male.

    Anyway, if some actual physics turns up, I will post about it…

    • Replies: @El Dato

    applications of mathematical and physical models to social networks… research on femtosecond lasers and NMR studies of protein structure.

     

    I would say these are incompatible fields except for airport literature science ("power laws" and assorted cheap generalizing, not that that isn't fun)

    The arxiv search shows nothing.

    If would surmise that if anyone publishes, the work *will* be at the arxiv, especially if they is still trying to get noticed.

    “Transgender erasure is a weapon being used to fight against women’s equality. In order for a mechanism of oppression to exist between two classes in society, differentiation between them is crucial. In the same fashion as interracial relationships and mixed-race children were anathema to segregationists, transgender people pose a serious challenge for patriarchal structures. The inviolable superior status of white people over black people is challenged when there are people who are both black and white. Similarly, in creating gray space between male and female, transgender people subvert the patriarchy.”
     
    "You have to go back to your planet!"
    , @Anon
    Haider appears to have no publications of "hir" own, in any field. No refereed journals, no conference proceedings, no nothing. Unless Haider is a new name, "hir" self-description ('published in applied physics letters', etc.) appear to be fake news.

    Haider is (still..) listed as a PhD Candidate at the Harvard SEAS central website:

    https://www.seas.harvard.edu/applied-physics/people/graduate-students

    "Hir" supervisor at Harvard is listed as Jukka-Pekka Onnela (Department of Biostatistics). Haider is not listed either as a graduate student or as alumni on Onnela own site:

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/onnela-lab/people/

    Onnela does network science. Network science has some overlap with statistical mechanics, and there are a lot of physicists in that field. But it's not physics (and also kind of goofy).

    There's also no thesis entry for Mischa Haider from the Harvard Library. The only thing I could find was a phd thesis by one of the group's alumni, which thanks Mischa Haider in the acknowledgement section (for unspecified reasons).

    Hay's article says: "She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate". But did she even actually graduate?
    , @Art Deco
    Try INSPEC or Dissertation Abstracts International. If you take out a friends-of-the-library membership at a local academic library, it may include a franchise to use the specialized databases to which they subscribe. GoogleScholar can be very hit-and-miss.
    , @CCZ
    Mischa appears as “Misha Haider-Syed” alongside of Maria-Pia Shuman, in the acknowledgments of the following 2012 Harvard University PhD dissertation “First-Principles Multiscale Investigation of Structural and Chemical Defects in Metals” written by Georg Schusteritsch.

    “...all the friends I was able to make and get to know. This particularly includes Charbel Madi, Hao Shuo, Misha Haider-Syed, Maria-Pia Shuman, Sungkun Hong, Sahand Hormoz and Tzahi Cohen-Karni. I am probably most indebted to my family...”

    Does "Misha Haider-Syed" imply a previous marriage??
  40. Hay calls himself a “naive young fool” at age 53? This kind of delusional thinking is what gets you in bed with a French whore with a Pakistani tranny pimp.

    For clarity’s sake, I think this story can be abbreviated thusly:

    Sultry Judeo-French hooker: “Ah seenk yü are verry, verry attractif”

    Esteemed Harvard Professor: “You don’t say? I find we are in agreement!”

    Hooker: “Ah wass married to a wooman and haf several cheeldren wiss a Pakeestani transsexuale. Do yü want to haf sex wiss me?”

    Esteemed Harvard Professor: “Why not? What could possibly go wrong?”

    • Replies: @Lot
    Also, “Of course the baby is yours, you need to ‘disentangle’ from your wife, get a $500,000 2nd mortgage, give me all your passwords, meet daily with my transwife to copyedit her trannie-rights op-eds.”

    Hay: “Does that mean I can have no-orgasm sex with you for a third time? Really?”
    , @jcd1974
    Well done, sir.
  41. Mischa Haider’s name pops up quite a few times in an online search, such as this result from the Slate website.

    The Next Step in #MeToo Is for Men to Reckon With Their Male Fragility

    Being a feminist man who doesn’t personally abuse women is like being a white person who isn’t personally racist. Upending this long-standing system of oppression will take more than good personal behavior

    By Mischa Haider Jan 23, 2019

    Note the twofer of a provocation in the sub-headline.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    The messed-up part isn't that these messed-up people are running around spouting off and committing crimes, though that's messed up enough.

    No, it's that they are given awards of every kind, not least of which is space in some of the most prestigious journals for their sophisticated pronouncements.

    And as though that weren't enough, they've been permitted to bend the laws in nearly every state house in the nation to give them carte blanche while muzzling any potential critics--including their victims.

    I notice some people enjoying making fun of these gullible males in the cascade of suckers these women lined up. Fair game, I suppose, but we don't actually know how many there are. And I'm quite confident these two women aren't the only ones doing some variation of this.

    , @stillCARealist
    That sounds made up, as though random buzz words were just pasted together with some punctuation.

    There's no such thing as "good personal behavior" anymore. Doesn't matter what you do, someone will find a reason to attack you. It's why we're all quiet or just making anonymous comments on blogs.
  42. If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    But, my God, the shockingly poor choices he and his wife made! And this is the Ruling Class of the US in 2019. It made me recall the William F. Buckley quote: “I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

    • Agree: istevefan
    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    No, he doesn't None at all.
    , @jimbo
    The only problem I've had with the quote is that many Harvard professors live in Boston, so you are still taking a chance that some "A"s might get in there...
    , @Pericles
    Harvard Yes!
    , @nebulafox
    One could sum up the mass contempt for deplorables as stemming from their refusal to kowtow before the self-appointed philosopher-king Guardians. America has always been allergic to this kind of thing, and that just pisses the hell out of the usual suspects.
    , @mmack
    The best comment from The Cut on this story is “There is absolutely nobody to sympathize with in this story”. The “wife” he divorced and returned to live with five years later doesn’t exactly cover herself with glory in any of this either.

    And Professor Hay:

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/mistakesdemotivator.jpeg?v=1554328460
    , @Herbert West
    “If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.”

    This pro-feminism, pro tranny, ivory tower professional liar deserves everything he got and worse. I hope he loses everything and dies alone in a ditch.
    , @Abe

    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.
     
    F’em. F’em up the @$$es with hot iron hair curlers. F’ Ms. Sacks and her lost heirloom needle point chair covers and engagement ring. I’m sure with all the knickknacks she lost after inadvertently ‘leasing’ her $3.2 million Cambridge mini-mansion, life is barely worth living now.

    Believe the woman! Believe the Native American elder! Believe in “hands up, don’t shoot!” Believe that after fervently, gleefully wishing ruin and destruction on people who have not known 1/10o of the luxury and privilege you take for granted, you are still really a good person.

  43. …a more naive young fool never drew breath…

    Holy foreshadowing, Batman!

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    Ha, ha! Good one.
  44. @Harry Baldwin
    The article about Hay says "he leans left politically."

    No one is an actual leftist, they just "lean left." No one "leans right," they're "far right" or a "right-winger." I'm pretty sure these usages are set forth in the journalists' style guide.

    Or “hard right”.

  45. @HammerJack
    I'm sort of behind the curve on this: are trans people permitted to molest children yet?

    Well, they’re permitted to be around them. Which may be the same thing, if you turn your back for a second.

  46. Professor Bruce has got a terminal case of Hayface.

    • LOL: fish
  47. @HammerJack

    She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality
     
    Well of course she has. Also, she figured out that academic physics is like really tough and there's lots of math and stuff.

    All this, for the crime of not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.
     
    Fair enough, considering that lady physicists are known far and wide for being smoking hot. Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were...yep, you guessed it!

    She’s not a physicist, or technically even an inventor, but if we stretch the meaning of scientist far enough it’ll make it to Hedy Lamarr. Is she what we’re supposed to picture, along with a vague notion of Madame Curie in a schoolmarm dress?

  48. If Tom Wolfe were alive today he’d be unemployed, his fiction unable to compete with actual news headlines for satirical value.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  49. On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room — fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter’s property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard’s response to Hay’s situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America’s universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard’s reaction to Hay — that by going to the press, he was behaving badly — is not a surprising response.)

    • Replies: @El Dato

    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room
     
    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?

    And what are fellow students doing? Doing science on the PS4?


    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America’s universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.
     
    Well, you could open Microsoft Stores on the repurposed premises. Nobody goes there.
    , @Barnard
    We have to break the hold these universities have on access to prestigious jobs and the higher levels of society. No one in government is willing to challenge them even mildly. Look at the Oberlin verdict, there is an obvious benefit to politicians who would take punitive measures against higher education, but none of them will even call for it rhetorically. I don't understand this disconnect.
    , @nebulafox
    PhysicistDave,

    I really hope she's OK. It feels trite to say that when I can't do anything more, but from everything you've mentioned about your kids, they are good people.

    I'm going to go practice for my Mandarin fluency exams...
    , @istevefan

    they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.
     
    Is there something special about this roommate that makes the university want to protect her?
    , @Jack D

    they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her
     
    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Your daughter should have removed herself to a safe place. If she was not capable of safely defending herself or her property she should have fled. Whatever damage her roommate did to her property could be addressed later - it wasn't worth getting further injured.

    The police are not judges or juries. They are in no position to assess who is "right" or to take sides in domestic disputes. Often BOTH parties are in the wrong in one way or another. To you and your daughter, it may be frickin' obvious that she is the victim and her roommate was the aggressor, but the cops are coming to this situation cold and have no way of knowing who is who instantly. Quite often, the aggressor herself (especially if she is female) will claim to be the victim and will even be the one who calls the cops. Put yourself in the cop's shoes and don't assume that they are automatically going to take your side just because you know that you are right. You know that but they don't and they aren't just going to take your word for it.
    , @J.Ross
    I'm sorry you came to this conclusion in this way. But all we have to do is find a way to attack the money. These people are protected from the consequences of their actions by walls of endowed money. Take away the money and they'll become the most sensible and practical people.
    , @donut
    Thoughts and prayers buddy , but that's probably the most useful lesson she'll get at any major American University . The alarm bells will go off sooner for her in the future and it may just save her life . She's young and young people have a lot of comeback .
    Maybe get her a copy of "The Confederacy of the Dunces" to read while she recuperates , laughter is the best medicine they say .
    , @stillCARealist
    My son had horrible suite-mates in his first semester in college. Two of them were obnoxious, foul-mouthed homosexuals who enjoyed teasing another suite-mate about his sexual confusion. Talk about sexual harassment! He went to the authorities repeatedly, and so did we, but nothing came of any of it. My son's solution was to move off campus. fortunately he was never physically threatened (although the other kid was).

    These homos have gotten themselves get-out-of-jail-free cards with their little oppression gambit. The people in charge are completely flummoxed by how to mitigate all the pincer movements of political correctness. Vulnerable people were likely far safer in the stigma and oppression era pre-sexual revolution.

    Stupid liberals.
    , @snorlax

    This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities.
     
    I suspect policy differs based on the race and/or star athlete status of the accused.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.
     
    Do you know what the nutty roommate told the cops?

    It may be the case in CA that in any "domestic" they're required to arrest anyone who is accused of a crime.

    The roommate may have falsely claimed to have been struck by your daughter.

    In any event, you may want to consult with local counsel in order to determine whether the University breached any duties to your daughter which have led to her injuries. Most specifically, has the University received past reports of aggressive behavior regarding the roommate, and what was its response?
    , @Alden
    I agree that the universities and colleges should all be closed down. Leave the medical and law schools and admit the students at 18. The STEM schools can be renamed Polytechnics. Only STEM subjects taught.

    Probably send every full and part time law professor plus all former administrators consultants coordinators analysts directors assistant directors off to an arctic gulag.
  50. Not that I believe this could’ve-been-from the Onion story but Haider could pass for Natalie Merchant’s homely sister.

  51. @Twinkie

    a debilitating depression... attempt suicide at a rate greater than 40 percent
     
    Because these people are mentally ill, perhaps?

    And from the pain of rejection by family and former friends who, despite her prodigious achievements, are somehow ashamed to be associated with her.
     
    I think most normal people are embarrassed to be associated with a mentally ill person.

    not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.
     
    Such as looking like men, because they are?

    “Such as looking like men, because they are?”

    Yes, exactly. Because you’re not supposed to have any notion what a woman looks like compared to a man. Or what a woman’s penis might feel like entering you against your will. That’s prejudice.

  52. @El Dato
    Meanwhile, in the real world:

    Wait! US & UK doctors warn against hormones/surgery for trans-identified kids

    Medical professionals in the US and UK are sounding the alarm about the growing use of “hormonal and surgical interventions” for children who are confused about their gender identity, saying that more studies are required.

    Members of the conservative childrens’ advocacy group the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) wrote a letter on Monday to the Surgeon General of the United States, warning about the effects of gender-reassignment surgeries and hormonal drugs on minors, saying such interventions have “not undergone long-term study.”

    ...

    The medical warnings come as the UK’s only child gender clinic, the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), reported significant increases in the numbers of children seeking to transition to the opposite gender – an overwhelming majority of them (74 percent) being young girls seeking to transition to a male identity.

     

    I wonder what the intersection is of people losing their shit about "5G radiation" and "coffee cancer" but then are on-board with messing up people with with complimentary transgendeering?

    I was wondering pretty much the same thing — what’s the overlap between people supportive of medical intervention for children with “gender identity disorder” and people who insist their beef be hormone-free?

  53. @HammerJack
    I'm sort of behind the curve on this: are trans people permitted to molest children yet?

    Lol I’m stealing this.

  54. @Tim Howells
    Wow! What a frigging story. And coupling that with the earlier Salon piece where Hays calls Scalia a "naive fool" in contrast to his "extraordinary, gifted, brilliant genius" transsexual "friend" ... words fail me. This is like a fairy tale that should be carefully preserved forever as an immortal reminder to never be tempted by liberal, progressive ideology.

    This is like a fairy tale that should be carefully preserved forever as an immortal reminder to never be tempted by liberal, progressive ideology.

    A new kind of Struwwelpeter holding intemporal gems like “The Comeuppance of the Whity Goodthinky”, “Dreamy Boy walks in da Ghetto”, “Becky oberves” and “The Color out of Space” are demanding to be written, even if they only ever will be read by Chinese.

    Der Struwwelpeter is known for introducing the character of the Tailor (or Scissorman) to Western literature. Some researchers now see the stories in the book as illustrations of many child mental disorders that we know about today.

  55. @Kronos
    The future of America, and its BEAUTIFUL!

    I’ve read the story now and I’ve a feeling your remark is accurate in many more ways than one. Maybe 57 ways, but who’s counting?

    • Replies: @Kronos
    At this point, I never want to be right about anything.
  56. The novel Derailed written in 2005 contained a very similar story, without the current year tranny angle though.

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    I was struck by how much this resembled a real life version of ALL the sexually degenerate secular upper class unhappily married angsty professor fiction out there.

    This is actually it’s own literary genre now... just offhand I can think of entries by writers as lauded as Updike, Houellebecq, Don DeLillo, Thomas Mann, Coetzee (got a nobel prize for one of those!)... and more, although one tries to forget having read most of them...

    It seems like the upper middle brow version of narcissistic chick lit... but written by (and for?) pathetic sad sack guys.

    I didn’t really think of these people as a genuine real life *subculture* but now I’m thinking maybe this actually a *scene* and the professor is just burnishing his scene cred by consenting to this (otherwise) humiliating expose.

  57. @NJ Transit Commuter
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    But, my God, the shockingly poor choices he and his wife made! And this is the Ruling Class of the US in 2019. It made me recall the William F. Buckley quote: “I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    No, he doesn’t None at all.

    • Agree: Federalist
    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    Correct. Point and splutter is the Left tactic, and needs to be used here.
  58. @Hypnotoad666
    I guess professor Hay was not a fan of the Davies brothers.

    Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
    Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
    Oh my Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola

    Was listening to oldies the other night and “Lola” came on, along with “Ob-la-di, Ob-la-da” and I wondered, was this where it all began? I didn’t dare wonder where it all might end. Amazing that “Walk on the Wild Side” could be a hit.

    • Replies: @MikeatMikedotMike
    See the movie The Pawnbroker from the early sixties. That film gets much of the credit for opening the doors to the degeneracy we have in entertainment today.
    , @J.Ross
    I have an old gay book from the sixties. Coatesishly enough a lot of the content is homosexuals frankly describing how violent and criminal they are. The scare quote on the back is something like "one day we will be the normal ones -- and you'll be abnormal." In other words, this is not about joining, this is about destroying.
  59. @Mitchell Porter
    Rather than study the nuances of this tale of "soyboy meets griftgirl" - as edifying as that might be - I was hoping to perform the simpler task, of viewing Mischa Haider's physics research, and judging its significance for myself. But all I am finding are trans activist op-eds.

    Haider has a contributor bio at Huffington Post, which provides a few specifics: "at Harvard University.. applications of mathematical and physical models to social networks... research on femtosecond lasers and NMR studies of protein structure. Before coming to Harvard, ... high temperature superconductivity at Imperial College. ... her research has been published in Applied Physics Letters".

    So let's head on over to Applied Physics Letters. Employ the search option in the header, leave publication as "This Publication", and type in "Haider" as the search term. Three authors named Haider are suggested. It's not hard to list their publications and see the author's university affiliations. There was a Niaz Haider from Imperial College, but the topic is not superconductivity, the papers were over 25 years ago, and that person is now a quant in New York. And that was the closest match I found. (But I encourage interested parties to conduct their own search, and see if they can reproduce my null result.)

    Well, until some science turns up, let's take a look at Haider's activist writings. Here is a paragraph from a Guardian op-ed dating from October 2018:

    "Transgender erasure is a weapon being used to fight against women’s equality. In order for a mechanism of oppression to exist between two classes in society, differentiation between them is crucial. In the same fashion as interracial relationships and mixed-race children were anathema to segregationists, transgender people pose a serious challenge for patriarchal structures. The inviolable superior status of white people over black people is challenged when there are people who are both black and white. Similarly, in creating gray space between male and female, transgender people subvert the patriarchy."

    Now it seems to me that being in the excluded middle of these oppressive binaries, has a rather different significance in real life. The pitch in the Guardian article is that when the absoluteness of the distinction between male and female, or black and white, becomes harder to sustain, gender and racial hierarchy as such becomes impossible. But the way it seems to work in real life, is that progressive society simply upholds a new hierarchy that inverts the old, as reparations for the past; and being in the ambiguous middle means that you also get a slightly elevated status, because at least you're not unambiguously white or unambiguously male.

    Anyway, if some actual physics turns up, I will post about it...

    applications of mathematical and physical models to social networks… research on femtosecond lasers and NMR studies of protein structure.

    I would say these are incompatible fields except for airport literature science (“power laws” and assorted cheap generalizing, not that that isn’t fun)

    The arxiv search shows nothing.

    If would surmise that if anyone publishes, the work *will* be at the arxiv, especially if they is still trying to get noticed.

    “Transgender erasure is a weapon being used to fight against women’s equality. In order for a mechanism of oppression to exist between two classes in society, differentiation between them is crucial. In the same fashion as interracial relationships and mixed-race children were anathema to segregationists, transgender people pose a serious challenge for patriarchal structures. The inviolable superior status of white people over black people is challenged when there are people who are both black and white. Similarly, in creating gray space between male and female, transgender people subvert the patriarchy.”

    “You have to go back to your planet!”

  60. Budd Dwyer [AKA "Anon000"] says:

    My favorite part:

    The women were planning to sell their house and buy a bigger place in Cambridge (though, at other times, they discussed moving to Europe to flee Trump’s America).

    LMAO. The only thing that could’ve put the kibosh on this elaborate multi-year con is hatred of Trump. What are all these leftists with their fucked-up psyches gonna do when Trump’s no longer around for them to channel and direct their mental illnesses at??

  61. @Harry Baldwin
    The article about Hay says "he leans left politically."

    No one is an actual leftist, they just "lean left." No one "leans right," they're "far right" or a "right-winger." I'm pretty sure these usages are set forth in the journalists' style guide.

    You have to remember that, in Cambridge, Marx and Lenin would be called “centrists”.

    • Replies: @Unladen Swallow
    They don't call or didn't call Harvard "Moscow on the Charles" for nothing, "Pyongyang on the Charles" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.
  62. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room

    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?

    And what are fellow students doing? Doing science on the PS4?

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America’s universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Well, you could open Microsoft Stores on the repurposed premises. Nobody goes there.

    • Replies: @Anon

    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?
     
    Or, in the context of Steve's post ... the birth gender?
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?
     
    Or sex of the perpetrator?
  63. The first thing I thought of upon completing my read of the underlying article was, “Those whom the gods would destroy they first make mad.” Then I laughed and laughed and laughed. God, thank you for making me a simple deplorable.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Was it aloud, cackling type laugh with a sob at the end?
  64. @HammerJack

    She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality
     
    Well of course she has. Also, she figured out that academic physics is like really tough and there's lots of math and stuff.

    All this, for the crime of not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.
     
    Fair enough, considering that lady physicists are known far and wide for being smoking hot. Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were...yep, you guessed it!

    Are they permitted? Not yet, but they try, Lord how they try: https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/22/jessica-yaniv-topless-swim-pool-party/

    http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=382437

    It appears some people are catching on. Unless you’re a Haaah-vaaahd Professor.

  65. @Isidore the Farmer
    Now that we have more of the story, the question is:

    Did Hay intend to write his 'defense' of Mischa in a way that actually reads like the greatest argument against transitioning ever put to paper?

    Is there a word for this type of essay that purports to defend something, but actually serves as an argument against it?

    Is there a word for this type of essay that purports to defend something, but actually serves as an argument against it?

    Failure

    • LOL: ben tillman
  66. Paraphrase from memory of Michel de Montaigne:

    “They [the professoriate] believe the ways of their tribe are the laws of nature.”

    Montaigne was a thinker and man of affairs, and his wry, skeptical view of his world maps very well onto today’s shenanigans.

  67. @Moses
    What a lowlife, this Hay. Scalia cut him a break and this is how Hay repays him, after Scalia's death no less?

    Hay deserved everything he got and then some.

    [Lesson #1 for Justices: Try not to hire clerks who hate you.]

    Maybe Haider & Shuman actually wrote and submitted the Salon piece when they took his laptop.

    • Replies: @Budd Dwyer

    Maybe Haider & Shuman actually wrote and submitted the Salon piece when they took his laptop.
     
    The piece was written in February 2016 and the trip to Quebec was in 2017.
    , @stillCARealist
    That makes sense, because nothing else does. This Hay guy's mental illness likely exceeds that of the two charlatans.

    How many other Harvard professors are this messed up? 90%? 95%?
  68. Geez, the first clue should have been when she said “I couldn’t help notice how attractive you are.” Sorry, but normal women don’t do that. Not saying they don’t ever take the initiative, but they are never that direct. If that woman had approached me like that, my first assumption would have been that she was a prostitute.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    One of the very few times I've been hit on since I've been married was at a store near Dulles airport. A gorgeous half-Thai stewardess approached me and made small talk.

    It was so surreal that my nearly immediate thought was: what's the scam?

    Remember: if you can't spot the mark, you're the mark.
  69. My favorite part is when he gave them his device passwords.

    That’s going full retard.

    Never go full retard.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6WHBO_Qc-Q
  70. @Percy Gryce
    Maybe Haider & Shuman actually wrote and submitted the Salon piece when they took his laptop.

    Maybe Haider & Shuman actually wrote and submitted the Salon piece when they took his laptop.

    The piece was written in February 2016 and the trip to Quebec was in 2017.

  71. Budd Dwyer [AKA "Anon000"] says:

    During this whole saga he had time to research and write: Nazi-Looted Art and the Law: The American Cases by Bruce L. Hay.

    From the description at Amazon:

    This book offers a clear, accessible account of the American litigation over the restitution of works of art taken from Jewish families during the Holocaust. For the past two decades, the courts of the United States have been an arena of conflict over this issue that has recently captured widespread public attention. In a series of cases, survivors and heirs have come forward to claim artworks in public and private collections around the world, asserting that they were seized by the Nazis or were sold under duress by owners desperate to escape occupied countries. Spanning two continents and three-quarters of a century, the cases confront the courts with complex problems of domestic and international law, clashes among the laws of different jurisdictions, factual uncertainties about the movements of art during and after the war, and the persistent question whether restitution claims have been extinguished by the passage of time.

    Through individual case studies, the book examines the legal questions these conflicts have raised and the answers the courts have given. From the internationally celebrated “Woman in Gold” lawsuit against Austria to lesser-known claims against Germany, Hungary, Spain, and museums and private collections in the United States, the book synthesizes the legal and evidentiary materials and judicial rulings in each case, creating a coherent narrative of proceedings that are often labyrinthine in complexity. Written by a leading authority on litigation and procedure, the book will be of interest to readers in various fields of the humanities and social sciences as well as law, and to anyone interested in the fate of artworks that have been called the “last prisoners” of the Second World War.

    The Kindle version is only $95!

  72. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Google " Jessica Yaniv Child Molester "

    And they've had trannies dressed as clowns teaching six-year-olds anal intercourse in public classrooms. That would've been an arrestable offense a few years ago.

    It's coming down that slippery slope.

    Is that really true? I hesitate to ask because I’m not sure I really want to know. But I guess I should.

    • Replies: @Bard of Bumperstickers
    They want you not to ask, to hide under your bed, hoping the monster eats elsewhere. Put it this way: has anything this crumby ever not become crumbier?

    To paraphrase Newton's First Law of Motion:
    A society in downward motion tends to continue downward unless stopped by an immovable objection.
  73. ay lmao, what a fucktard.

  74. @NJ Transit Commuter
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    But, my God, the shockingly poor choices he and his wife made! And this is the Ruling Class of the US in 2019. It made me recall the William F. Buckley quote: “I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

    The only problem I’ve had with the quote is that many Harvard professors live in Boston, so you are still taking a chance that some “A”s might get in there…

  75. @PiltdownMan
    Mischa Haider's name pops up quite a few times in an online search, such as this result from the Slate website.

    The Next Step in #MeToo Is for Men to Reckon With Their Male Fragility

    Being a feminist man who doesn’t personally abuse women is like being a white person who isn’t personally racist. Upending this long-standing system of oppression will take more than good personal behavior

    By Mischa Haider Jan 23, 2019
     

    Note the twofer of a provocation in the sub-headline.

    The messed-up part isn’t that these messed-up people are running around spouting off and committing crimes, though that’s messed up enough.

    No, it’s that they are given awards of every kind, not least of which is space in some of the most prestigious journals for their sophisticated pronouncements.

    And as though that weren’t enough, they’ve been permitted to bend the laws in nearly every state house in the nation to give them carte blanche while muzzling any potential critics–including their victims.

    I notice some people enjoying making fun of these gullible males in the cascade of suckers these women lined up. Fair game, I suppose, but we don’t actually know how many there are. And I’m quite confident these two women aren’t the only ones doing some variation of this.

  76. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    Mischa smiled, took Brice Hay by the hand, and said little boy I’m gonna make you a man!

    • LOL: Ibound1
  77. Q. Is Bruce Hay the Most Gullible Man in Cambridge?

    A. Bruce Hay (2017). Nazi-Looted Art and the Law “The only book devoted to the legal aspects of Holocaust-era art restitution cases…”

  78. A Woke On The Wild Side:

    It couldn’t have happened to a more deserving guy.

  79. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    that’s a man baby

  80. @El Dato
    Things may change between February 2016 and today!

    She’s an extraordinary polymath — gifted violinist, writer and novelist; fluent speaker of a half-dozen languages; math genius. And physicist. ... She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality – for being accorded the most basic human dignity – to think of anything else. She could not live with herself, she tells me, if she did not devote her talents to helping the many trans women whose lives are decimated by the bigotry and ignorance of those around them.
     
    Something out of a Greg Bear or Greg Egan story, shurely?

    She just did the PhD. The brilliancy is still in the future ... or not.

    From the other article...

    Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter (she’s called “Sumi”). (Haider’s boyfriend Klein, Hay later discovered)
     
    No wonder this results in ... "unintended consequences".

    Something out of a Greg Bear or Greg Egan story, shurely?

    Neal Stephenson, this is your breakout moment. Seize the day.

    • Replies: @Skyler the Weird
    The is a Tranny in Fall who becomes an internet sensation because his music was the last thing a character was listening to when they died.
  81. @Bill P
    Hay calls himself a "naive young fool" at age 53? This kind of delusional thinking is what gets you in bed with a French whore with a Pakistani tranny pimp.

    For clarity's sake, I think this story can be abbreviated thusly:

    Sultry Judeo-French hooker: "Ah seenk yü are verry, verry attractif"

    Esteemed Harvard Professor: "You don't say? I find we are in agreement!"

    Hooker: "Ah wass married to a wooman and haf several cheeldren wiss a Pakeestani transsexuale. Do yü want to haf sex wiss me?"

    Esteemed Harvard Professor: "Why not? What could possibly go wrong?"

    Also, “Of course the baby is yours, you need to ‘disentangle’ from your wife, get a $500,000 2nd mortgage, give me all your passwords, meet daily with my transwife to copyedit her trannie-rights op-eds.”

    Hay: “Does that mean I can have no-orgasm sex with you for a third time? Really?”

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    Already used my "LOL", but your comment evoked a louder one.
  82. @Hypnotoad666
    I guess professor Hay was not a fan of the Davies brothers.

    Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
    Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
    Oh my Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola

    I got down on my knees/ and that’s the way I wanted to stay/ I always want to be that way/ for my Lola

  83. @NJ Transit Commuter
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    But, my God, the shockingly poor choices he and his wife made! And this is the Ruling Class of the US in 2019. It made me recall the William F. Buckley quote: “I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

    Harvard Yes!

  84. “Zacks pushed Hay to ask for a paternity test, but Hay wouldn’t have it. Not only did he trust Shuman, he felt it would have been insulting for a heterosexual cisgender man to question a professed lesbian as to whether she’d had sex with other men. He believed her when she said her sexual relationship with him was an exception.”

    …okay

    “The women were planning to sell their house and buy a bigger place in Cambridge (though, at other times, they discussed moving to Europe to flee Trump’s America).”

    man this story really hits all the bases. I wish trump’s america was anything like these people’s insane fantasies so these people could be imprisoned!

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    "they discussed moving to Europe to flee Trump's America"

    Curious how nobody, and I mean NOBODY, ever discusses moving to Africa to flee Trump's America.
  85. And thus is how the US is seduced into irrelevance. The philosophies of the east that actually justify gender displacement is so common place among the intelligent they marvel when they should be perplexed and troubled.

    And why I hold all of the crazed admiration for eastern philosophy and its transcendentalism suspect. I certainly appreciate the talents of Shirley Mclaine, her book, “Hanging Out On A Limb” is a spot on title.

    The reading here is gut wrenching.

  86. @Gordo
    https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/bruce-hay-paternity-trap-maria-pia-shuman-mischa-haider.html

    That is one nightmarish f*cked up story Steve.

    Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter
     
    Oh brave new world.....

    Mort Shuman was quite the songwriter. Is his claimed daughter just faking it?

    She doesn’t look anything like Shuman or his French wife.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    Its not a good photo.
  87. What is with all these guys in the story not being able to cum?

    I mean it can’t be a disgust reflex on their part because they don’t seem to have one

    • Replies: @Kyle
    Not being able to ejaculate is a side effect of anti depressants. It’s the most horrifying and ominous side effect, something that makes you very wary of continuing medication.
    , @everybodyhatesscott
    I went through a rough patch about 10 years ago and got on an SSRI for a few weeks. It makes it pretty much impossible to finish. I decided I'd rather be depressed and stopped taking it.
  88. @Lot
    Mort Shuman was quite the songwriter. Is his claimed daughter just faking it?

    She doesn’t look anything like Shuman or his French wife.

    http://www.cheny.net/plus/doc/shuman03.jpg

    Its not a good photo.

  89. So Hay meets a fat, depressed tranny, a slutty lesbo, a mostly absent “Daddy” and their various bastard kids and effusively declares “they were almost perfect people.”

    I hope the lawsuits continue forever and ever.

  90. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    We have to break the hold these universities have on access to prestigious jobs and the higher levels of society. No one in government is willing to challenge them even mildly. Look at the Oberlin verdict, there is an obvious benefit to politicians who would take punitive measures against higher education, but none of them will even call for it rhetorically. I don’t understand this disconnect.

  91. “Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist”

    What Indian/Pakistani is called “Mischa Haider”? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.

    More research needed.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    It's a "drag name" — "Mensch Hater."
    , @Lot
    I thought the same thing.

    Trannie choice in female first names is often strange.

    For the last name, could just be an Indian name that sounds European, or from an Indian name that was Germanized upon his grandfather’s migration to Germany.

    Kami-Sutra Mahatmapoon is a much better Indian transwoman name.
    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    Mischa or Misha is the common Russian nickname for Mikhail so it would translate as "Mike" in English. Given that in Western European languages the "-sha" ending would be more of a feminine sound the name is sometimes given to girls. So I guess it's kind of perfect for a trannie although I expect that not many would choose a sexually ambiguous name.
    , @orionyx
    Haider is a common enough Muslim surname in the Indian sub-continent.
    I have never heard anyone from India or Pakistan describe himself as Indian-Pakistani. Doesn't happen.
    Mischa for Russians and other Slavs is a pet name for Mikhail, which is a boy's name.
    In other words, this creature is kosher chazzer fissel right from the get-go.
    , @PiltdownMan

    What Indian/Pakistani is called “Mischa Haider”? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.
     
    Haider (alternatively spelt Hyder) is a fairly common Muslim name, especially in South Asia. I don't know about the Mischa. It could be an Indian dimunitive or nickname, with a Europeanized spelling.


    https://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/lunch-with-bs-navina-najat-haidar-museum-curator-115061901290_1.html
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29502393

    , @Pericles
    Wikipedia tells me there are no less than seven distinct groups of Jews in India, so there could be a hypothetical connection. Or, since trannies are so honest and grounded, it could just be made up.
  92. One question that didn’t get answered is how Hay and his ex-wife could have “young children” if they had been divorced since 1999 and had a “mostly platonic” relationship since moving back in together in 2004. What a bizarre life.

    • Replies: @Bigdicknick
    Well we know Hay doesn't believe in asking women for paternity tests, so maybe that's a clue.
  93. Poetic justice. I feel no sympathy for this asshole.

  94. Anon[101] • Disclaimer says:
    @Mitchell Porter
    Rather than study the nuances of this tale of "soyboy meets griftgirl" - as edifying as that might be - I was hoping to perform the simpler task, of viewing Mischa Haider's physics research, and judging its significance for myself. But all I am finding are trans activist op-eds.

    Haider has a contributor bio at Huffington Post, which provides a few specifics: "at Harvard University.. applications of mathematical and physical models to social networks... research on femtosecond lasers and NMR studies of protein structure. Before coming to Harvard, ... high temperature superconductivity at Imperial College. ... her research has been published in Applied Physics Letters".

    So let's head on over to Applied Physics Letters. Employ the search option in the header, leave publication as "This Publication", and type in "Haider" as the search term. Three authors named Haider are suggested. It's not hard to list their publications and see the author's university affiliations. There was a Niaz Haider from Imperial College, but the topic is not superconductivity, the papers were over 25 years ago, and that person is now a quant in New York. And that was the closest match I found. (But I encourage interested parties to conduct their own search, and see if they can reproduce my null result.)

    Well, until some science turns up, let's take a look at Haider's activist writings. Here is a paragraph from a Guardian op-ed dating from October 2018:

    "Transgender erasure is a weapon being used to fight against women’s equality. In order for a mechanism of oppression to exist between two classes in society, differentiation between them is crucial. In the same fashion as interracial relationships and mixed-race children were anathema to segregationists, transgender people pose a serious challenge for patriarchal structures. The inviolable superior status of white people over black people is challenged when there are people who are both black and white. Similarly, in creating gray space between male and female, transgender people subvert the patriarchy."

    Now it seems to me that being in the excluded middle of these oppressive binaries, has a rather different significance in real life. The pitch in the Guardian article is that when the absoluteness of the distinction between male and female, or black and white, becomes harder to sustain, gender and racial hierarchy as such becomes impossible. But the way it seems to work in real life, is that progressive society simply upholds a new hierarchy that inverts the old, as reparations for the past; and being in the ambiguous middle means that you also get a slightly elevated status, because at least you're not unambiguously white or unambiguously male.

    Anyway, if some actual physics turns up, I will post about it...

    Haider appears to have no publications of “hir” own, in any field. No refereed journals, no conference proceedings, no nothing. Unless Haider is a new name, “hir” self-description (‘published in applied physics letters’, etc.) appear to be fake news.

    Haider is (still..) listed as a PhD Candidate at the Harvard SEAS central website:

    https://www.seas.harvard.edu/applied-physics/people/graduate-students

    “Hir” supervisor at Harvard is listed as Jukka-Pekka Onnela (Department of Biostatistics). Haider is not listed either as a graduate student or as alumni on Onnela own site:

    https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/onnela-lab/people/

    Onnela does network science. Network science has some overlap with statistical mechanics, and there are a lot of physicists in that field. But it’s not physics (and also kind of goofy).

    There’s also no thesis entry for Mischa Haider from the Harvard Library. The only thing I could find was a phd thesis by one of the group’s alumni, which thanks Mischa Haider in the acknowledgement section (for unspecified reasons).

    Hay’s article says: “She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate”. But did she even actually graduate?

  95. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    PhysicistDave,

    I really hope she’s OK. It feels trite to say that when I can’t do anything more, but from everything you’ve mentioned about your kids, they are good people.

    I’m going to go practice for my Mandarin fluency exams…

  96. In a healthy society a guy like Scalia, a practicing Christian married to the same woman for 56 years and the father of nine children, would be the one held in high esteem whether or not he was a member of the Supreme Court.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Jack D
    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn't make them laudable.
  97. @NJ Transit Commuter
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    But, my God, the shockingly poor choices he and his wife made! And this is the Ruling Class of the US in 2019. It made me recall the William F. Buckley quote: “I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

    One could sum up the mass contempt for deplorables as stemming from their refusal to kowtow before the self-appointed philosopher-king Guardians. America has always been allergic to this kind of thing, and that just pisses the hell out of the usual suspects.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    If Steve's archetypical white collar customer is reflexively hostile to his car mechanic, how much worse must that hatred grow with a real political power gap.
  98. A surprising note from Mia-Paria Pia-Maria Maria-Pia’s father’s Wikipedia bio, not about Mort but about his partner– business partner, business partner!– Doc Pomus:

    Pomus often drew on life events which inspired his creativity. It was after a break-up with his girlfriend that Pomus, who had been driving in his car, was struck in awe by the sounds of the car horns blaring amidst his thoughts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mort_Shuman

    Pomus was able to drive? In 1963? Cars were big then.


    (Does Maria-Pia still have her, um, pia?)

    From the Mort Shuman-Doc Pomus catalogue:

    Wrong for Each Other

    You go on your way
    I’ll go on mine
    Please don’t you call me
    Or drop me a line
    I’ll be better off now
    With somebody new
    And you should find someone
    More suited to you
    Cause we’re wrong for each other
    Wrong for each other
    Let’s fight another round
    I couldn’t explain it
    I can’t tell you why
    I’ve got such a talent
    For making you cry
    And one day you’ll thank me
    For saying so long
    For making an end to
    A love…

    • Replies: @guest
    I only know that fella as writer of several Drifters tunes, during the era when they were produced by Leiber and Stoller. Some theorize Phil Spector worked on ones like This Magic Moment and Save the Last Dance considering the recordings have a Spectorish sound.

    I prefer Some Kind of Wonderful in the Drifter catalogue, but that one was written by Goffin and King.
    , @JimDandy
    The model for John Goodman's character in Inside Llewyn Davis.
    , @PiltdownMan
    It's possible that Doc Pomus was still driving a specially fitted car in the early 1960s, when he was in his 30s. Post-polio syndrome sets in later in life. He looks to be over 50 in that photograph.
  99. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    Is there something special about this roommate that makes the university want to protect her?

  100. Anonymous[425] • Disclaimer says:

    She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality – for being accorded the most basic human dignity – to think of anything else.

    Dignity is cutting off one’s dick and balls?

  101. For 1950s fun search on [Ex-GI becomes blonde beauty]. Operations transform Bronx youth!!!!

  102. @Steve Sailer
    Thanks.

    That is the most unbelievable article I have ever read. Thanks for posting that.

    Would anyone have believed even 30 years ago that such a surreal series of events involving a Harvard professor would occur? If they made a movie of this, no one would see it, since it would be too far fetched.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    Now that you highlight this...

    [[mindblowage intensifies]]

    (Same as with the Mueller report which Mr. Mueller hasn't even read or doesn't remember reading. Or stuff. This stuff is unbelievable even compared to Warren Report standards.)
    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    Mischa or Misha is the common Russian nickname for Mikhail so it would translate as "Mike" in English. Given that in Western European languages the "-sha" ending would be more of a feminine sound the name is sometimes given to girls. So I guess it's kind of perfect for a trannie although I expect that not many would choose a sexually ambiguous name.
    , @Ripple Earthdevil
    A Coen Brothers movie with William H. Macy as Bruce Hay.
  103. anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @El Dato
    It's Karl Weissbier, he works on the pump at my café.

    His pump don’t work, cause the vandals stole the handle.

  104. anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @The Alarmist
    Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/mischa-haider/headshot.jpg

    The come-hither look is sadly comical.

  105. anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @HammerJack
    Well, I'm now halfway through the Bruce Hay paternity article, and not only do I take back what I said here, I think I'll make a clean break and just take back everything I've ever said since I was born. Behind the curve indeed; it just may be time for me to move to an isolated island somewhere.

    I really, really wish that either Tom Wolfe or Hunter Thompson (the 1965-era witty and acerbic Thompson, not the later bitter -and-always-hung-over version) had ventured to write about this trans-mess before they died.

  106. Hay was a weirdo cuck-loser long before he met the LGBT Bunco-gang. He was living with his ex-wife:

    “Sorry, I’m married,” he responded impulsively. It wasn’t exactly true — Hay has been legally divorced since 1999, but he lives with his ex-wife, Jennifer Zacks, an assistant U.S. Attorney in Boston, and their two young children.

    I bet the former Mrs. Hay is a real winner too.

    Look closely fly-over America. These are your social superiors.

    • Replies: @JMcG
    Probably couldn’t face not living in Cambridge and couldn’t afford to buy the house twice. I knew a circle of people of this sort years ago, through a cousin. Many are professionally successful now, though train wrecks in their personal lives.
  107. @NJ Transit Commuter
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    But, my God, the shockingly poor choices he and his wife made! And this is the Ruling Class of the US in 2019. It made me recall the William F. Buckley quote: “I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

    The best comment from The Cut on this story is “There is absolutely nobody to sympathize with in this story”. The “wife” he divorced and returned to live with five years later doesn’t exactly cover herself with glory in any of this either.

    And Professor Hay:

    • Replies: @donut
    We grow to soon old and too late smart .
  108. From the article:

    “Zacks pushed Hay to ask for a paternity test, but Hay wouldn’t have it. Not only did he trust Shuman, he felt it would have been insulting for a heterosexual cisgender man to question a professed lesbian as to whether she’d had sex with other men. He believed her when she said her sexual relationship with him was an exception.”

    This man should be forcibly sterilized ala Buck v. Bell.

    He just fails at life.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    Sounds like he has already chemically castrated himself voluntarily
  109. @guest
    "a side effect of his medication"

    What, antidepressants?

    "pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm"

    Do they mean without ejaculation? Because biologically the orgasm is tangential to impregnation.

    “a side effect of his medication”

    What, antidepressants?

    “pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm”

    Do they mean without ejaculation? Because biologically the orgasm is tangential to impregnation.

    Yes, that is a side effect of anti-depressants, sometimes for some people. And, no, orgasm is not tangential to impregnation. The author is talking about the man’s orgasm.

    • Replies: @guest
    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.
    , @MikeatMikedotMike
    There is also a medication called tamsulosin often prescribed to men who are having difficulty urinating, in which a side effect is the inability to ejaculate. Orgasm is apparently still achievable.
  110. @Mr McKenna

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Hmm. How many non-trans people were killed that year?
    And are we including motor-vehicle deaths?

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.

    Twenty-one is not a “rate”.

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    The incidence of "trans people" in society is also not a "rate".
    , @snorlax
    The usual estimate I've heard is that they're 1/300th of the population, so we would expect ~40 murders a year. 21 is remarkably low, particularly considering how many are prostitutes and/or junkies.
    , @PNWmossback
    Take a look at the statistics. It's getting more difficult to identify the race involved in the most recent reports, but the vast majority have been M2F POC working in the "sex industry," and killed by other POC.

    I suspect most of these killings would have been avoided if the victim had been honest avout their status at the beginning of the transaction.
  111. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her

    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Your daughter should have removed herself to a safe place. If she was not capable of safely defending herself or her property she should have fled. Whatever damage her roommate did to her property could be addressed later – it wasn’t worth getting further injured.

    The police are not judges or juries. They are in no position to assess who is “right” or to take sides in domestic disputes. Often BOTH parties are in the wrong in one way or another. To you and your daughter, it may be frickin’ obvious that she is the victim and her roommate was the aggressor, but the cops are coming to this situation cold and have no way of knowing who is who instantly. Quite often, the aggressor herself (especially if she is female) will claim to be the victim and will even be the one who calls the cops. Put yourself in the cop’s shoes and don’t assume that they are automatically going to take your side just because you know that you are right. You know that but they don’t and they aren’t just going to take your word for it.

    • Replies: @guest
    They are in a also to do just that. Otherwise, how do you explain all the countless times cops arrest one party (usually the male) and not another when responding to domestic disturbances?

    Heck, they didn't even arrest George Zimmerman, and he admitted to shooting Trayvon Martin. That's because they found his story plausible based upon readily apparent visual evidence.

    , @J.Ross
    This is a little cold. The daughter was trying to get away. Responsible authorities would have had the roommate moved or had her out of the room during the move. There's no reason to assume anything you are touching upon like with the property. I've had a roommate who "snapped" and there was really nothing I could do, not even run away. The university practice of requiring people to live in dorms is brainless. A few years ago at Gonzaga a huge ex-con wandered into the dorms and randomly tried doors. The one he found open contained a student who was licensed for concealed carry. The student drew and the attacker ran off. Then the student was in trouble for having a gun on campus. This was brought up in a radio discussion, in which the caller insisted that you don't need guns because of "one good elbow to the chin." Discussing self-defense is a complete waste of time if we allow society to degenerate past a certain point and crucify anyone who tries to defend themselves.
    , @PhysicistDave
    Jack D wrote to me:

    Often BOTH parties are in the wrong in one way or another. To you and your daughter, it may be frickin’ obvious that she is the victim and her roommate was the aggressor, but the cops are coming to this situation cold and have no way of knowing who is who instantly.
     
    Three cops showed up. One, fortunately the one who wrote the report, was sympathetic and clearly knew what had happened.

    It was in fact all pretty obvious: my daughter had called Dispatch and they had her on the line for eight minutes; she was injured; her property had been destroyed; the assailant was calm and collected while my daughter was obviously traumatized; etc.

    The cop who threatened my daughter with prison was pretty clearly just a thug who probably did not want to do the paperwork: he may also have felt that he was following University policy -- UCLA was struck down just a year ago by the CA Supreme Court for negligence in dealing with student safety, and the University has been engaged in one cover-up after another since (the campus paper has run a string of exposes just in the last school year).

    The cop-thug was in fact obviously lying: after all, any adult knows that it is simply not the case that if a fight occurs and if one person goes to prison, then the other automatically goes to prison. But, as a kid, who was traumatized by having just been beaten up and injured, my daughter was not in a position to tell the cop what any American adult knows.

    She did eventually get charges filed, and, of course, the other officers/detectives confirmed the obvious point that, no, if the assailant goes to jail, that does not mean the victim also goes to jail!

    We are considering filing a federal complaint against the crooked cop for violating my daughter's civil rights by trying to intimidate her from filing charges. But, of course, he would just lie to DoJ, as he lied to my daughter.

    Jack D also wrote:

    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Your daughter should have removed herself to a safe place. If she was not capable of safely defending herself or her property she should have fled.
     
    Sounds good, but it was not easy to do. The thuggish roommate surprise-attacked her when my daughter was blocked off by he own belongings that were packed up to be moved out. After the surprise attack (which caused the fractured bone), my daughter might have been able to defend herself, but that really might have resulted in her being accused.

    The criminal claims that her father had been sexually molesting her for years. That may be part of the explanation, though it is certainly possible, given her behavior, that this is just one more lie.

    Some of the cops do want the assailant prosecuted, and the offense can be prosecuted as a felony under CA law (because of the bone fracture). Whether the DA will deal with it at all... we'll see.
  112. @istevefan
    In a healthy society a guy like Scalia, a practicing Christian married to the same woman for 56 years and the father of nine children, would be the one held in high esteem whether or not he was a member of the Supreme Court.

    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn’t make them laudable.

    • Replies: @Lot
    ISF also said “practicing Christian” and “married to the same woman for 56 years.”

    Both of these in the USA are strongly correlated with 100+ IQ and high conscientiousness!
    , @Jake
    You think there are lots of 'good Christian men all over Africa' who have been married to one wife for more than 50 years without ever dropping an illegitimate child?
    , @snorlax
    It's considered laudable by their African Christian peers, and African Christian society is a great deal healthier (meaning its prospects for future existence and influence) than ours.
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn’t make them laudable.
     
    Did God not enjoin us to be fruitful and multiply?

    The key is not "having" lots of children (this is a slippery term applied to derelicts and conscientious fathers alike), it is successfully rearing a brood of lots of children to be at the very least creditable, law-abiding, and productive members of society.

    In African society "having" lots of children is considered a form of wealth, probably because in old age you'll have younger and still productive people to take care of you in a place without 401Ks, an inflated housing market, and Social Security and Medicare benefits.
  113. @Lot
    Also, “Of course the baby is yours, you need to ‘disentangle’ from your wife, get a $500,000 2nd mortgage, give me all your passwords, meet daily with my transwife to copyedit her trannie-rights op-eds.”

    Hay: “Does that mean I can have no-orgasm sex with you for a third time? Really?”

    Already used my “LOL”, but your comment evoked a louder one.

  114. “Since coming out as trans a few years ago, this remarkable woman has suffered a debilitating depression.” Which the writer attributes to all of the prejudice displayed toward “her” from myriad sources, and the atrocious treatment “she” has received from the evil society in which “she” lives.

    Perhaps the depression is the result of unfulfilled expectations, in which the expectation was that “coming out” as the opposite gender would make life wonderful because the person was now living the life that nature had ordained for that person, and finding out that after carving up one’s body and changing the clothes one wears, one still feels the same unhappiness and misery which did not actually originate from being of the “wrong sex” at all.

  115. @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    ...a more naive young fool never drew breath...

    Holy foreshadowing, Batman!

    Ha, ha! Good one.

  116. @ben tillman

    “a side effect of his medication”

    What, antidepressants?

    “pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm”

    Do they mean without ejaculation? Because biologically the orgasm is tangential to impregnation.
     
    Yes, that is a side effect of anti-depressants, sometimes for some people. And, no, orgasm is not tangential to impregnation. The author is talking about the man's orgasm.

    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.
     
    I've never experienced or heard of such a thing.
  117. @Jack D
    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn't make them laudable.

    ISF also said “practicing Christian” and “married to the same woman for 56 years.”

    Both of these in the USA are strongly correlated with 100+ IQ and high conscientiousness!

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    Good to see you praise Christianity, even if indirectly.
  118. Just when you thought a nice house in Cambridge and tenure at Harvard Law School meant living happily ever after. Probably Bruce Hay would be better off as a professor of law in a place where the grifters can’t afford international travel. Like Atsamatta U.

  119. @Reg Cæsar
    A surprising note from Mia-Paria Pia-Maria Maria-Pia's father's Wikipedia bio, not about Mort but about his partner-- business partner, business partner!-- Doc Pomus:

    Pomus often drew on life events which inspired his creativity. It was after a break-up with his girlfriend that Pomus, who had been driving in his car, was struck in awe by the sounds of the car horns blaring amidst his thoughts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mort_Shuman
     

    Pomus was able to drive? In 1963? Cars were big then.


    https://blackcracker.fm/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Doc-Pomus.jpg

    (Does Maria-Pia still have her, um, pia?)


    From the Mort Shuman-Doc Pomus catalogue:


    Wrong for Each Other

    You go on your way
    I'll go on mine
    Please don't you call me
    Or drop me a line
    I'll be better off now
    With somebody new
    And you should find someone
    More suited to you
    Cause we're wrong for each other
    Wrong for each other
    Let's fight another round
    I couldn't explain it
    I can't tell you why
    I've got such a talent
    For making you cry
    And one day you'll thank me
    For saying so long
    For making an end to
    A love…

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-kjLYN8HU

    I only know that fella as writer of several Drifters tunes, during the era when they were produced by Leiber and Stoller. Some theorize Phil Spector worked on ones like This Magic Moment and Save the Last Dance considering the recordings have a Spectorish sound.

    I prefer Some Kind of Wonderful in the Drifter catalogue, but that one was written by Goffin and King.

    • Replies: @Lot
    He also co-wrote Elvis’s 1961 hit Marie’s the Name (His Latest Flame), which has a proto-Wall of Sound element to it.

    Shuman wrote it however for Del Shannon, who had an even more futuristic sounding hit with Runaway the same year (the first hit song to use an electric keyboard).
    , @PiltdownMan
    Doc Pomus was huge, in both senses of the word. His collaborations with Shuman, as well as Leiber and Stoller, resulted in huge hits for Elvis Presley. He wrote Ray Charles' Lonely Avenue. He easily makes any list of the top five songwriters of popular American music.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr3Chk8Cg8s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di2ThVZeGV4

    https://youtu.be/6f4m6Ku2jyk

    https://youtu.be/gOoKzw3JSCM
  120. @prime noticer
    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.

    i'm done giving these people the benefit of the doubt. in the past i could say they were smart, but see things a different way from me. hence their credentials and positions at ivy league universities. how could they not be smart if they were professors at harvard.

    not anymore. now i realize they're just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything. i'll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science, without extensive verification from unrelated sources.

    it probably wasn't always this way, but it's been this way for 20 years at least. these people are in an academic echo chamber and that's it. produce zero work of value, and have no idea what they're talking about. the idea that they are authorities on anything and their ideas and opinions should guide society is laughable bullshit.

    in fact today, it's probably required that they be dead wrong about everything, in order to get tenure.

    i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science,

    This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study (and does not have political implications – e.g. global warming). That being said, keep in mind that in many cutting edge fields of science, the science is not settled and for every expert that says X you can find another one who will tell you not X.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are “on the spectrum” (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Even within science itself: Isaac Newton was into medieval alchemy, James Clerk Maxwell didn't believe in evolution, Albert Einstein rejected quantum mechanics, and Paul Dirac couldn't abide renormalization.

    If you are brilliant on their level, you tend to either hit home runs or strike out.

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    You are ignoring the fact, mentioned early in the article in a quote by Hays himself, that Hays taught courses dealing with precisely the types of situation he got himself into and the legal issues involved. The man is a pencil necked loon.
    , @prime noticer
    "This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study"

    hence the rest of my sentence. without extensive verification from unrelated sources.

    harvard SCIENCE professors are LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE half the time. have you not noticed this? i'm talking about things they are supposed to be experts on.

    we're putting aside the factor of science being unsettled in many cases, and going directly into obvious situations of them deliberately being wrong, sometimes on purpose.

    the standard for non-political technical work at the ivy league universities is dogshit half the time. again, it wasn't always this way, but is CLEARLY THIS WAY NOW. is there still ground breaking and correct work being done? yes. at the same time, is lots of the work being done today simply total bullshit and misleading garbage? how could you not see that.

    ivy league professors are just dead wrong about certain SCIENCE AND MEDICINE topics now some of the time.

    it's a good thing most critical engineering doesn't come out of these places.
    , @Thoughts
    This whole 'Expert in one thing' and unable to know anything else is b.s.

    That's not how the human brain works.

    It's simply not possible to have a 132+ IQ in one subject, and not notice other things in the world.

    This prof is probably 110 ish IQ at best.
    , @Johann Ricke

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are “on the spectrum” (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.
     
    It seems to me that autism is superfluous to this issue. The average plumber might not know anything about algebra or history, but he sure knows his pipes. That's the reality of limited time, energy and ability.
    , @Moses

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence.
     
    Nassim Nicholas Taleb, the blunt-talking mathematician, calls these people "IYIs" or "Intellectuals Yet Idiots."

    Funny man, that Taleb.

    He wrote an entertaining essay about it: https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577
  121. @Jack D

    they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her
     
    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Your daughter should have removed herself to a safe place. If she was not capable of safely defending herself or her property she should have fled. Whatever damage her roommate did to her property could be addressed later - it wasn't worth getting further injured.

    The police are not judges or juries. They are in no position to assess who is "right" or to take sides in domestic disputes. Often BOTH parties are in the wrong in one way or another. To you and your daughter, it may be frickin' obvious that she is the victim and her roommate was the aggressor, but the cops are coming to this situation cold and have no way of knowing who is who instantly. Quite often, the aggressor herself (especially if she is female) will claim to be the victim and will even be the one who calls the cops. Put yourself in the cop's shoes and don't assume that they are automatically going to take your side just because you know that you are right. You know that but they don't and they aren't just going to take your word for it.

    They are in a also to do just that. Otherwise, how do you explain all the countless times cops arrest one party (usually the male) and not another when responding to domestic disturbances?

    Heck, they didn’t even arrest George Zimmerman, and he admitted to shooting Trayvon Martin. That’s because they found his story plausible based upon readily apparent visual evidence.

  122. @Jack D
    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn't make them laudable.

    You think there are lots of ‘good Christian men all over Africa’ who have been married to one wife for more than 50 years without ever dropping an illegitimate child?

  123. Remember – these are people who think you are stupid and demand they have their way as a matter of Natural Law.

    Never defer to them in anything great or small. Nothing

  124. @PennTothal
    To read that entire long article from "the Cut" is to descend into the hell that is the modern age.

    Hay is certainly the leader in the clubhouse for Sailer's Man of the Year award.

    From the article:
    "Shuman called Hay to tell him she was pregnant with his baby. She hadn’t had sex with another man in the past year, she said. Hay was stunned; he hadn’t ejaculated during either of their encounters, a side effect of his medication. But he understood that pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm..."
     

    There is something to be said for schadenfreude. When I was reading the Cut article I was enjoying it so much that I wished I had popped up a batch of popcorn to enjoy with the article.
    Seeing an asshat like Bruce Hay self-destructing from sheer stupidity, provided comfort that there is still some iota of justice left, even in ClownWorld.

    • Replies: @Mis(ter)Anthrope
    My thoughts exactly.
    , @EldnahYm
    Note that Bruce Hay has children. That such nutcases are reproducing is discomforting.
    , @silviosilver

    There is something to be said for schadenfreude.
     
    Oh you bet there is. The schadenfreude I got from this story was simply transcendental.

    I hope they have internet in heaven so Tom Wolfe can I enjoy this.
  125. Why did he write the 2016 article blaming Scalia after what Haider and Shuman did to him? Was it a part of some deal that they would get off his back or is he just that stupid?

    • Replies: @mmack
    A lil’ of Column A, a lil’ of Column B
  126. @Moses
    What a lowlife, this Hay. Scalia cut him a break and this is how Hay repays him, after Scalia's death no less?

    Hay deserved everything he got and then some.

    [Lesson #1 for Justices: Try not to hire clerks who hate you.]

    “What a lowlife, this Hay. Scalia cut him a break and this is how Hay repays him, after Scalia’s death no less?“

    I’m not exactly sure what sort of fact checking went into this Cut piece, but Shuman and Haider sure look and act like gypsies. Coming home after a vacation to find gypsies living in your house with your personal belongings out on the sidewalk is a pretty common problem in Europe, and it can take months to years to evict them. It’s a standard Roma grift. So is the “You are the father of my baby” wheeze.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    I’m not exactly sure what sort of fact checking went into this Cut piece, but Shuman and Haider sure look and act like gypsies.

     

    Interesting point. Gypsies hail from India, as I understand it, so 'India-Pakistani' might come from that. And the odd home swap seems like very unusual behavior for more conventional grifters. Though on the other hand 'Shuman' and 'Haider' still give off a Jewish vibe.
  127. @NJ Transit Commuter
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    But, my God, the shockingly poor choices he and his wife made! And this is the Ruling Class of the US in 2019. It made me recall the William F. Buckley quote: “I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

    “If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.”

    This pro-feminism, pro tranny, ivory tower professional liar deserves everything he got and worse. I hope he loses everything and dies alone in a ditch.

    • LOL: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    He earned it.
  128. Anonymous[332] • Disclaimer says:

    Why do I get the feeling this same scam perpetrated by Shuman would have just as likely worked on every current regular male NYT Opinion writer ?

  129. @ben tillman

    “a side effect of his medication”

    What, antidepressants?

    “pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm”

    Do they mean without ejaculation? Because biologically the orgasm is tangential to impregnation.
     
    Yes, that is a side effect of anti-depressants, sometimes for some people. And, no, orgasm is not tangential to impregnation. The author is talking about the man's orgasm.

    There is also a medication called tamsulosin often prescribed to men who are having difficulty urinating, in which a side effect is the inability to ejaculate. Orgasm is apparently still achievable.

  130. @Alfa158
    There is something to be said for schadenfreude. When I was reading the Cut article I was enjoying it so much that I wished I had popped up a batch of popcorn to enjoy with the article.
    Seeing an asshat like Bruce Hay self-destructing from sheer stupidity, provided comfort that there is still some iota of justice left, even in ClownWorld.

    My thoughts exactly.

  131. What would you think if Ruth Bader Ginsberg died in a particular way, at a particular location used by Mexican cartels to dispose of bodies, and then it came out that I had written (and narrowly circulated among militant enemies of Ginsberg) an “idea for a movie” describing those exact details, implying but not specifying Ginsberg, and including a map of the real location?
    That happened with Scalia and it ended just like Alefantis’s gallery of duct taped children and the Podesta’s paintings of scared children.
    But hey. Turns out ICE raids bothered 35 illegals, who will now be apologized to and released back into the American interior by bad judges. So we got that goin’ for us.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Who foretold Scalia's death?

    Scalia was a 79 year old man with heart disease. He had, shortly before his death, been deemed not healthy enough to undergo minor surgery. Some of his companions at the ranch stated that Scalia had reported not feeling well the night before his death. There was no sign of any disturbance in his room.
  132. the story is Very 2019, yes, but note that Hay sought out a sympathetic writer from his hometown to write and publish it. why in the world would he subject himself to public ridicule and humiliation if the facts are on his side?

    absentminded and naive professors exist in abundance, but this man has been ‘entangled’ in an unusual relationship with his co-parent Zacks for a decade. how did that come about? i’ve lived a little while on this earth and seen some things, so i know the claimed naivete is implausible on its face, especially for a man as handsome and well-connected as Hay.

    Haider and Shuman are clearly deranged and up to shenanigans, but we’re being played.

    now that I think about it, there’s nothing more 2019 than that.

  133. @guest
    There's an annual jokey thing called the Bulwer-Lytton* Fiction Contest, in which entrants submit fake first sentences to a pretend-worst novel in the world. A cousin contest, called the Little Lytton, has a "found" category, wherein you submit a sentence published by someone else that would be hilarious if it were the first sentence to a novel. Mr. Hay has produced a gem in his subheadline:

    "From our leather chairs, we never saw the lives his rulings gutted."

    I would absolutely hate to read that story.

    By the way, I contemplate the misery wrought upon others by decisions all the time. But not from a leather chair, because I don't own one. So I'm all good, I guess. But

    *After the author of Paul Clifford, which famously opens "It was a dark and stormy night..." Also known for various coinages, for instance "the pen is mightier than the sword."

    It is good to focus on that sentence because all lefties do is gut lives. We should remember the German family who wanted to homeschool their kids, extradited with all available energy by Holder and Obama, and told they would never see their children again. And this credentialled idiot is talking about people who are already deeply screwed up, so his “gutting” refers to a failure on the part of society to indulge neurotic selfishness.

  134. Anon[129] • Disclaimer says:

    Rule number one about making smart judgment calls in life is that people who just walk up to you and try to latch on to you immediately generally are up to trouble and have an agenda they expect you to fulfill. People who are psychologically normal don’t do this.

    A child could walk up to you and do this, but not an adult. An adult is expected to have formed their own lives by now, know their own interests and mind, be capable of getting themselves out of trouble on their own, and they have picked their own social circle already. Their friends are the ones they call to get them out of trouble, not random strangers they’ve walked up to. If someone is trying to get the help of a random stranger it’s because they have no friends. They have no friends because they’re absolutely toxic people.

    There is a real benefit to living in a traditional society in which everyone has been raised with a familiar social circle all their life and has had plenty of time to become acquainted everyone else’s behavior and reputation. That way you know everyone’s bonafides.

    • Replies: @Swedish Family

    Rule number one about making smart judgment calls in life is that people who just walk up to you and try to latch on to you immediately generally are up to trouble and have an agenda they expect you to fulfill. People who are psychologically normal don’t do this.
     
    Very important point. And if they do it with facility, it's double trouble: psychopaths are the kings of the first impression.
  135. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    I’m sorry you came to this conclusion in this way. But all we have to do is find a way to attack the money. These people are protected from the consequences of their actions by walls of endowed money. Take away the money and they’ll become the most sensible and practical people.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    Yes. My favorite story here was Antioch College, where the spoiled members of the college first became radical, then when that drove away students, they began to spend not the yield on the endowment but the endowment itself.

    They never became sensible and practical, however, and wound up spending the whole endowment, shutting the college. They may still be insensible, but it no longer matters.
  136. @Jack D

    i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science,
     
    This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study (and does not have political implications - e.g. global warming). That being said, keep in mind that in many cutting edge fields of science, the science is not settled and for every expert that says X you can find another one who will tell you not X.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are "on the spectrum" (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.

    Even within science itself: Isaac Newton was into medieval alchemy, James Clerk Maxwell didn’t believe in evolution, Albert Einstein rejected quantum mechanics, and Paul Dirac couldn’t abide renormalization.

    If you are brilliant on their level, you tend to either hit home runs or strike out.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    When Einstein rejected quantum mechanics with his statement that "God does not play dice", Bohr supposedly replied, "Einstein, stop telling God what to do!"

    Also apt to this thread, Bohr said:


    An expert is a person who has found out by his own painful experience all the mistakes that one can make in a very narrow field.
     
  137. Abe says:
    @NJ Transit Commuter
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    But, my God, the shockingly poor choices he and his wife made! And this is the Ruling Class of the US in 2019. It made me recall the William F. Buckley quote: “I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.”

    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    F’em. F’em up the @$$es with hot iron hair curlers. F’ Ms. Sacks and her lost heirloom needle point chair covers and engagement ring. I’m sure with all the knickknacks she lost after inadvertently ‘leasing’ her $3.2 million Cambridge mini-mansion, life is barely worth living now.

    Believe the woman! Believe the Native American elder! Believe in “hands up, don’t shoot!” Believe that after fervently, gleefully wishing ruin and destruction on people who have not known 1/10o of the luxury and privilege you take for granted, you are still really a good person.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Maybe we can do a GoFundMe for her and for the dude who got his lifetime 1st class airpass taken away because he abused it.
  138. @HammerJack
    Well, I'm now halfway through the Bruce Hay paternity article, and not only do I take back what I said here, I think I'll make a clean break and just take back everything I've ever said since I was born. Behind the curve indeed; it just may be time for me to move to an isolated island somewhere.

    Well, I’m now halfway through the Bruce Hay paternity article, and not only do I take back what I said here, I think I’ll make a clean break and just take back everything I’ve ever said since I was born. Behind the curve indeed; it just may be time for me to move to an isolated island somewhere.

    I’m confused…not about my sex, or “gender”, just confused.

  139. @Jack D

    they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her
     
    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Your daughter should have removed herself to a safe place. If she was not capable of safely defending herself or her property she should have fled. Whatever damage her roommate did to her property could be addressed later - it wasn't worth getting further injured.

    The police are not judges or juries. They are in no position to assess who is "right" or to take sides in domestic disputes. Often BOTH parties are in the wrong in one way or another. To you and your daughter, it may be frickin' obvious that she is the victim and her roommate was the aggressor, but the cops are coming to this situation cold and have no way of knowing who is who instantly. Quite often, the aggressor herself (especially if she is female) will claim to be the victim and will even be the one who calls the cops. Put yourself in the cop's shoes and don't assume that they are automatically going to take your side just because you know that you are right. You know that but they don't and they aren't just going to take your word for it.

    This is a little cold. The daughter was trying to get away. Responsible authorities would have had the roommate moved or had her out of the room during the move. There’s no reason to assume anything you are touching upon like with the property. I’ve had a roommate who “snapped” and there was really nothing I could do, not even run away. The university practice of requiring people to live in dorms is brainless. A few years ago at Gonzaga a huge ex-con wandered into the dorms and randomly tried doors. The one he found open contained a student who was licensed for concealed carry. The student drew and the attacker ran off. Then the student was in trouble for having a gun on campus. This was brought up in a radio discussion, in which the caller insisted that you don’t need guns because of “one good elbow to the chin.” Discussing self-defense is a complete waste of time if we allow society to degenerate past a certain point and crucify anyone who tries to defend themselves.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I know that this was cold but Dave is clearly caught up in this (understandably) and is not looking at the situation objectively and needs a reality check. He expects the police to appear instantly and to automatically side with his daughter and that's not how it works in real life. We have to live in the real world as it is and base our expectations accordingly or we are going to be frustrated and angry at things that are just manifestations of the normal imperfect world that we live in.

    We haven't heard the side of the "crazy" roommate. Every story has two sides, even when the other side involves someone who is allegedly mentally ill. It's possible that if we heard the other girl's story, we'd see that she really is crazy and Dave's daughter is 100% in the right, but it's also possible that there is more to this story than what we have heard. I have no doubt whatsoever that Dave is being 100% sincere and is telling us what he believes to be the absolute truth, but doesn't mean that we now know the full story. Even Dave wasn't there and is getting this story filtered thru his daughter.
  140. @nebulafox
    One could sum up the mass contempt for deplorables as stemming from their refusal to kowtow before the self-appointed philosopher-king Guardians. America has always been allergic to this kind of thing, and that just pisses the hell out of the usual suspects.

    If Steve’s archetypical white collar customer is reflexively hostile to his car mechanic, how much worse must that hatred grow with a real political power gap.

  141. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    I genuinely thought this was a normal dude with long hair and unfortunate genetics upon first glance.

    So, yeah, not with a thousand Magnums. This is coming from a guy whose taste in women is anything but conventional…

  142. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    Dude looks like a lady…not

  143. It’s stories like this that remind us what a tragedy it is that chateau heartiste is no longer able to provide commentary.

  144. @nebulafox
    Even within science itself: Isaac Newton was into medieval alchemy, James Clerk Maxwell didn't believe in evolution, Albert Einstein rejected quantum mechanics, and Paul Dirac couldn't abide renormalization.

    If you are brilliant on their level, you tend to either hit home runs or strike out.

    When Einstein rejected quantum mechanics with his statement that “God does not play dice”, Bohr supposedly replied, “Einstein, stop telling God what to do!”

    Also apt to this thread, Bohr said:

    An expert is a person who has found out by his own painful experience all the mistakes that one can make in a very narrow field.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I think at a deep, core level, QM went against Einstein's basic philosophical notions-deterministic, smooth, and with a rational universe to make up for irrational human beings-on how the world worked. He even seemed to realize that he was being left behind toward the end. Dirac went through the same process of drifting away from the mainstream in the latter years of his career.

    >An expert is a person who has found out by his own painful experience all the mistakes that one can make in a very narrow field.

    Schrodinger had an excellent response to the already latent issue of over-specialization in "What Is Life?", as far as different fields of physics are concerned.

    I'd like to think physics is better than most-I've met more fellow history buffs among other physics majors than among history majors-but all the same, since 99% of people aren't geniuses, it isn't wise to follow what worked for them.

    , @Pericles

    Bohr supposedly replied, “Einstein, stop telling God what to do!”

     

    Though it's something of an ethnic proclivity.
  145. Hays’s view of things before he was woke by reality, reminds me of the e. e. cummings poem, “plato told”. (Warning to SJW readers: this poem is now banned in most PC venues for its use of the word “nipponized”. As someone whose father and uncle sweltered away what should have been some of the best years of their lives in the Solomons, Mariannas, and New Guinea, occasionally dodging nip bullets, I find it hard to agree with the virtue signaling outrage.)

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  146. @Abe

    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.
     
    F’em. F’em up the @$$es with hot iron hair curlers. F’ Ms. Sacks and her lost heirloom needle point chair covers and engagement ring. I’m sure with all the knickknacks she lost after inadvertently ‘leasing’ her $3.2 million Cambridge mini-mansion, life is barely worth living now.

    Believe the woman! Believe the Native American elder! Believe in “hands up, don’t shoot!” Believe that after fervently, gleefully wishing ruin and destruction on people who have not known 1/10o of the luxury and privilege you take for granted, you are still really a good person.

    Maybe we can do a GoFundMe for her and for the dude who got his lifetime 1st class airpass taken away because he abused it.

  147. @Ed
    His children watched these weirdos arrive at the house. Hay is pathetic, he wrote this ode to his tranny while he was scamming him.

    His children watched these weirdos arrive at the house. Hay is pathetic, he wrote this ode to his tranny while he was scamming him.

    The new “slumming”?

  148. @Jack D

    i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science,
     
    This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study (and does not have political implications - e.g. global warming). That being said, keep in mind that in many cutting edge fields of science, the science is not settled and for every expert that says X you can find another one who will tell you not X.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are "on the spectrum" (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.

    You are ignoring the fact, mentioned early in the article in a quote by Hays himself, that Hays taught courses dealing with precisely the types of situation he got himself into and the legal issues involved. The man is a pencil necked loon.

  149. @Jack D
    When Einstein rejected quantum mechanics with his statement that "God does not play dice", Bohr supposedly replied, "Einstein, stop telling God what to do!"

    Also apt to this thread, Bohr said:


    An expert is a person who has found out by his own painful experience all the mistakes that one can make in a very narrow field.
     

    I think at a deep, core level, QM went against Einstein’s basic philosophical notions-deterministic, smooth, and with a rational universe to make up for irrational human beings-on how the world worked. He even seemed to realize that he was being left behind toward the end. Dirac went through the same process of drifting away from the mainstream in the latter years of his career.

    >An expert is a person who has found out by his own painful experience all the mistakes that one can make in a very narrow field.

    Schrodinger had an excellent response to the already latent issue of over-specialization in “What Is Life?”, as far as different fields of physics are concerned.

    I’d like to think physics is better than most-I’ve met more fellow history buffs among other physics majors than among history majors-but all the same, since 99% of people aren’t geniuses, it isn’t wise to follow what worked for them.

  150. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    Heinous.

  151. @HammerJack

    She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality
     
    Well of course she has. Also, she figured out that academic physics is like really tough and there's lots of math and stuff.

    All this, for the crime of not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.
     
    Fair enough, considering that lady physicists are known far and wide for being smoking hot. Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were...yep, you guessed it!

    Also, if anyone hasn’t pointed it out yet, the reason “she” is good at physics is because “she” is a man.

  152. @HammerJack

    She’s decided to leave academic physics after finishing the doctorate. She has become too absorbed in the struggle for equality
     
    Well of course she has. Also, she figured out that academic physics is like really tough and there's lots of math and stuff.

    All this, for the crime of not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.
     
    Fair enough, considering that lady physicists are known far and wide for being smoking hot. Little-known fact: three out of every four playboy centerfolds were...yep, you guessed it!

    Also, if anyone hasn’t pointed it out yet, the reason “she” is good at physics is because “she” is a man.

  153. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    Looks like Glenn Danzig, if since the 1990s Glenn Danizg ate a great deal of cheeseburgers every day. This guy terachesa class in judgment. The Ivy League is officially somewhere between a sewer and a whorehouse-

  154. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    Thoughts and prayers buddy , but that’s probably the most useful lesson she’ll get at any major American University . The alarm bells will go off sooner for her in the future and it may just save her life . She’s young and young people have a lot of comeback .
    Maybe get her a copy of “The Confederacy of the Dunces” to read while she recuperates , laughter is the best medicine they say .

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    donut wrote to me:

    Thoughts and prayers buddy , but that’s probably the most useful lesson she’ll get at any major American University . The alarm bells will go off sooner for her in the future and it may just save her life . She’s young and young people have a lot of comeback .
     
    Yeah, she has already said that in a very strange sense it has prepared her to deal with other difficulties and traumas in life. For several minutes, she was truly afraid the roommate was trying to kill her: the roommate did throw blunt heavy objects at her (ceramic mug, large glass drinking glass, ~40-lb. packed suticase, etc.) and knocked her down several times. My daughter actually thinks that if she had stayed down any of the times she was knocked down, the roommate might have grabbed one of the heavy objects and bashed her skull in.

    Thinking you are going to die does focus the mind!

    My wife and I heard the first few seconds of the attack, and then the phone line went dead. For the better part of an hour, until the polkice let her call us, we were really worried she was dead.

    My daughter has said that in some ways what has traumatized her even more than the attack was the attempt of the rogue cop and most of the University officials to somehow blame her, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    For some years, I think she has believed that I was overwrought in saying that there is something horribly wrong at a deeply personal level with the people who control this society. She no longer thinks I am overwrought.
  155. @HammerJack
    I'm sort of behind the curve on this: are trans people permitted to molest children yet?

    Regardless, better to be molested than convinced to grossly (both senses of the term) mutilate oneself.

  156. @guest
    There's an annual jokey thing called the Bulwer-Lytton* Fiction Contest, in which entrants submit fake first sentences to a pretend-worst novel in the world. A cousin contest, called the Little Lytton, has a "found" category, wherein you submit a sentence published by someone else that would be hilarious if it were the first sentence to a novel. Mr. Hay has produced a gem in his subheadline:

    "From our leather chairs, we never saw the lives his rulings gutted."

    I would absolutely hate to read that story.

    By the way, I contemplate the misery wrought upon others by decisions all the time. But not from a leather chair, because I don't own one. So I'm all good, I guess. But

    *After the author of Paul Clifford, which famously opens "It was a dark and stormy night..." Also known for various coinages, for instance "the pen is mightier than the sword."

    Is “it was a dark and stormy night” actually bad prose, or is it more of a “Seinfeld is unfunny” / “Beatles sound generic” / “Halloween is a formulaic slasher” thing? More the second, I think.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "Is “it was a dark and stormy night” actually bad prose?"

    I think it's kinda atmospheric. IIRC a young John Cleese and others used it for one of the stories in their radio comedy shows.

    “It was a dark and stormy night (doomy music)...the wind howled in the trees (sound fx of wolves howling) ... the rain lashed down (fx of a whiplash and a scream of pain)”
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Sorry,_I%27ll_Read_That_Again
    , @Logan
    What if it actually "was a dark and stormy night?"

    There is a difference between cliche (overuse) and bad writing as such.

    BTW, watched the Maltese Falcon with my teen daughter not too long ago. She complained about the cliches in the story. So I had to explain that MF had invented most of those story lines.

    , @guest
    "It was a dark and stormy night" is catchy, but that's just the beginning of the sentence. In full it goes:

    It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents--except at occasional intervals, when it was
    checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies),
    rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled
    against the darkness.

    In the very least, this style of prose is no longer in fashion.
  157. @Mr McKenna

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Hmm. How many non-trans people were killed that year?
    And are we including motor-vehicle deaths?

    In the minds of leftists, it’s a group of angry white guys chasing a tranny down Main Street of Pleasantville, USA. Reality is very different. Dirty little secret ; good chunk of the transvestite homicides are in fact instances where men have sex with such people to find out during or afterwards said person is or was a man. And a large number of those happen to involve African-American males who view such a surprise as a great dishonor. But that will never be discussed.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  158. @PennTothal
    To read that entire long article from "the Cut" is to descend into the hell that is the modern age.

    Hay is certainly the leader in the clubhouse for Sailer's Man of the Year award.

    From the article:
    "Shuman called Hay to tell him she was pregnant with his baby. She hadn’t had sex with another man in the past year, she said. Hay was stunned; he hadn’t ejaculated during either of their encounters, a side effect of his medication. But he understood that pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm..."
     

    Zacks pushed Hay to ask for a paternity test, but Hay wouldn’t have it. Not only did he trust Shuman, he felt it would have been insulting for a heterosexual cisgender man to question a professed lesbian as to whether she’d had sex with other men. He believed her when she said her sexual relationship with him was an exception.

    This despite knowing

    1. She was sharing a house with a penis-having tranny who had fathered her two previous kids and who was listed as the father on the new baby’s birth certificate.
    2. She was also sharing the house with her unambiguously male ex-boyfriend.

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    This despite knowing

    1. She was sharing a house with a penis-having tranny who had fathered her two previous kids and who was listed as the father on the new baby’s birth certificate.
    2. She was also sharing the house with her unambiguously male ex-boyfriend.
     
    I think it says elsewhere that his live-in ex-wife tried to push the issue, but he felt that questioning Pia-Maria's version of events by demanding a paternity test would invalidate her identity as a Lesbian (who only had three pregnancies) by suggesting that she slept with men (besides him and the father(s) of her other kids).
    , @Jack D
    These all sound like patently unbelievable excuses for not doing it, even from someone as supposedly naive as Hay. They sound like something you'd find in a poorly written movie or novel where the writer is trying to plug obvious holes in the plot and the patches are a little too obvious.

    It sounds like Hay knows on some level that he isn't the father but he doesn't want to admit it to himself or his (live-in ex) spouse, because this would mean accepting that he had been scammed and was not the super sexy virile man that the baby mama said he was. I don't know the custodial arrangements but you wouldn't have to be Dick Tracy to stealthily obtain a saliva sample or used diaper from a baby without needing to ask the baby mama.

    Hay made up these elaborate high IQ rationalizations for why a test was not possible. Whether he was just making up excuses for his ex or whether he was in denial and lying to himself too - I'm not sure. The guy doesn't seem to be the most mentally stable person around so I wouldn't rule out the latter.
  159. @Percy Gryce
    Maybe Haider & Shuman actually wrote and submitted the Salon piece when they took his laptop.

    That makes sense, because nothing else does. This Hay guy’s mental illness likely exceeds that of the two charlatans.

    How many other Harvard professors are this messed up? 90%? 95%?

  160. I must admit, I’m totally confused. OK, I was too lazy to read everything (now, I’m seriously reading much more interesting stuff). But, here I see 4 people:

    * Scalia
    * Hay, some guy who clerked for Scalia
    * Shuman, who is I guess a woman
    * Haider, a physicist who is a m>f tranny

    Did I get it right?

    Then someone pumped Shuman & Hay thinks he’s the father. But- maybe not. Maybe it was tranny.

    Is it the story?

    If yes, what Scalia has got to do with all this?

    If not – what the whole fuss is about?

    By the way, I support genuine transpeople (unlike, I think, 98% people on this site)- but this whole story is downright bizarre. What’s the issue, after all?

    • Replies: @Spangel
    The whole story is an elaborate punchline about how Bruce hay is the kind of person teaching judgment and decision making at Harvard. Literally this story is the level of judgement and decision making that comes out of the ivory tower establishment.

    But one doesn’t expect them to think to reassess their political views when confronted with the deficiencies in how their judgment assesses reality.

    But it does tell us how far these people are from being able to figure out what the racial achievement gap is really about given that some of them can’t even figure out that they’re being conned when it smacks them in the face like this.
  161. @Alfa158
    There is something to be said for schadenfreude. When I was reading the Cut article I was enjoying it so much that I wished I had popped up a batch of popcorn to enjoy with the article.
    Seeing an asshat like Bruce Hay self-destructing from sheer stupidity, provided comfort that there is still some iota of justice left, even in ClownWorld.

    Note that Bruce Hay has children. That such nutcases are reproducing is discomforting.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "Note that Bruce Hay has children. That such nutcases are reproducing is discomforting."

    He's registered as the father, anyway. After reading that story, who knows if they're his?

    It sounds as if these two folie-a-deux oddballs had been playing this twisted power game for a while and hit the jackpot when Shuman approached Hay.

    Hay, while in law the wronged party, is about to discover (if he hasn't already) that, while a woman conned in this way might get sympathy ("in a bitter irony, she was lecturing Harvard students on decision-making, even while making the worst decisions of her life"), a male will get no sympathy and a lot of ridicule, even to the point of making his employment untenable. I hope he's got a good lawyer ;-)
  162. @PiltdownMan
    Mischa Haider's name pops up quite a few times in an online search, such as this result from the Slate website.

    The Next Step in #MeToo Is for Men to Reckon With Their Male Fragility

    Being a feminist man who doesn’t personally abuse women is like being a white person who isn’t personally racist. Upending this long-standing system of oppression will take more than good personal behavior

    By Mischa Haider Jan 23, 2019
     

    Note the twofer of a provocation in the sub-headline.

    That sounds made up, as though random buzz words were just pasted together with some punctuation.

    There’s no such thing as “good personal behavior” anymore. Doesn’t matter what you do, someone will find a reason to attack you. It’s why we’re all quiet or just making anonymous comments on blogs.

  163. Surely the sort of paternity scam that the woman and her shemale were pulling pretty much died with the advent of DNA testing?

    • Replies: @Jack D
    You would think so, but Hay seems to be naive beyond belief according to his own account. I stress the words BEYOND BELIEF. There have been other cases of supposedly smart people being scammed when you think that they should have recognized the con job (Congressman Ed Mezvinsky falling for the Nigerian "black money" currency wash scam) but the essence of any con is that "you can't cheat an honest man".

    Sometimes I feel as if these scams are from a prior age, like some old movie that depends on the characters not having cell phones or the whole plot falls apart. An age before you could google "Nigerian black money scam" or "paternity DNA test".
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Surely the sort of paternity scam that the woman and her shemale were pulling pretty much died with the advent of DNA testing?
     
    You would think so but not always.

    An acknowledgement of paternity by the man can be difficult to undo because lots of States interject a "best interests of the child standard" and whatnot when the man later has evidence that the kid isn't his, and the spouse of a mother is presumed to be the father and that's hard to undo as well.

    The weird thing though is in the full article Hay told Shuman that he wanted to be present for the birth of the child and acknowledge his paternity but she refused.

    It sure looks like at least two and probably three mentally ill people interacting, and two of the three people definitely had malicious motives for the duration of their interactions.
  164. @snorlax

    Zacks pushed Hay to ask for a paternity test, but Hay wouldn’t have it. Not only did he trust Shuman, he felt it would have been insulting for a heterosexual cisgender man to question a professed lesbian as to whether she’d had sex with other men. He believed her when she said her sexual relationship with him was an exception.
     
    This despite knowing

    1. She was sharing a house with a penis-having tranny who had fathered her two previous kids and who was listed as the father on the new baby's birth certificate.
    2. She was also sharing the house with her unambiguously male ex-boyfriend.

    This despite knowing

    1. She was sharing a house with a penis-having tranny who had fathered her two previous kids and who was listed as the father on the new baby’s birth certificate.
    2. She was also sharing the house with her unambiguously male ex-boyfriend.

    I think it says elsewhere that his live-in ex-wife tried to push the issue, but he felt that questioning Pia-Maria’s version of events by demanding a paternity test would invalidate her identity as a Lesbian (who only had three pregnancies) by suggesting that she slept with men (besides him and the father(s) of her other kids).

    • Replies: @snorlax
    That's the part I quoted?
    , @JR.Ewing.78
    Well, she was sleeping with a "woman" who was the - ummmm, parent? - of her children... so maybe that really does make her a lesbian?
  165. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    You make me feel, you make me feel, you make me feel like a natural woman…

  166. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    Mischa Haider:

    Dude is the spit and image of a Jewish guy I know who still plays in an 80s Hair Band.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    Yeah, he looks like fat Gene Simmons / Chaim Witz.
  167. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    My son had horrible suite-mates in his first semester in college. Two of them were obnoxious, foul-mouthed homosexuals who enjoyed teasing another suite-mate about his sexual confusion. Talk about sexual harassment! He went to the authorities repeatedly, and so did we, but nothing came of any of it. My son’s solution was to move off campus. fortunately he was never physically threatened (although the other kid was).

    These homos have gotten themselves get-out-of-jail-free cards with their little oppression gambit. The people in charge are completely flummoxed by how to mitigate all the pincer movements of political correctness. Vulnerable people were likely far safer in the stigma and oppression era pre-sexual revolution.

    Stupid liberals.

  168. @Moses
    What a lowlife, this Hay. Scalia cut him a break and this is how Hay repays him, after Scalia's death no less?

    Hay deserved everything he got and then some.

    [Lesson #1 for Justices: Try not to hire clerks who hate you.]

    Clerking for Scalia almost certainly won him his tenured professorship at HLS.

    I know a couple former SCOTUS clerks and not only are they always effusively complementary about the Justice they worked for, but even the Justices they didn’t work for, including those they vehemently disagreed with. As far as I can tell other former clerks do the same, including for example Scalia clerk Ian Samuel, who’s basically a communist.
    https://twitter.com/isamuel/status/1153820103634370560
    Hay published that tirade against his benefactor right after the man died, instead of having the barest minimum of decency to do so while he was still living, or the sub-minimum decency to at least wait a few months before speaking ill of the dead. What an ass indeed.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    The guy’s broke (in debt) and his career is hanging by a thread. He’s a dumb #$*! for sure but maybe it’s a “Hail Mary” of virtue signaling. There are PLENTY of liberals who’d KILL to teach at Harvard and take is place. Any hint of “transphobic” and he’s gone (Larry Summers gone.) Don’t forget that he taught decision making.
  169. Hay personifies the psychological wreckage of WASP America.

    The Germans have the only word that can describe my feeling on reading this: fremdschämen

    • Replies: @95Theses
    Thank you. I always appreciate introductions to words which are mot juste.
  170. So that is Antonin Scalia’s contribution to physics. To drive a woman with a luminous mind from the study of quantum theory and statistical mechanics and condensed matter, and into the urgent project of safeguarding vulnerable people from the inhumanity he dedicated his life to spreading. An inhumanity that survives as his true legacy, safeguarded by deluded acolytes and admirers.

    I’m going to go ahead and posit that Perfesser Hay was banging both the phony Lesbian and the No Effort Tranny.

  171. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    There is a thing in Colin Wilson’s book on Mysticism where he encounters an (unbeknownst to the extremely naive Wilson) accomplished tranny whom he invites to his home and it kisses him goodbye and surprises him by shoving a monstrous tongue a half foot down his throat. If you learn how to skim the fluff there is some amazing content in his books but that episode surely ain’t in that {set}.

  172. This story is hilarious . It should be worked into HS curricula every where along with basic financial survival information .
    For the movie I’m thinking Matt Damon as the prof. because of the great job he did in “The Informant” one of his two best performances . For directors I don’t know many , just not Brian de Palma whom I hope will soon be watching an eternal loop of “Bonfire of the Vanities” in Hell .
    BTW OT but I thought of another good idea for a book or an HBO series . About 25 miles from Wash. D.C. there is a mountain that our Gov’t is supposed to flee to in case of nuclear war . Imagine , if you will an alien (outerspace kind) trash disposal Co. illegally dumps a few hundred million tons of toxic waste on earth . Due to the urgent need to preserve the most valuable members of our society w/o whom we cannot possibly rebuild , a random collection of elected officials Trump and his cabinet , Biden , Pilosi , Schumer along with a grab bag of cucks and other idiots and bureaucrats are collected there but most important the “squad” and their entourages are rescued as well .

    • Replies: @donut
    Oh BTW the only weapons in the facility are held by the Marine unit tasked with security . Led by ... hmmm . Col. .. I don't know should he be stupid or cynical , or both ? Neither he should be patient , sly and calculating , not too bright though , maybe this guy :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlA9hmrC8DU
  173. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities.

    I suspect policy differs based on the race and/or star athlete status of the accused.

  174. I think Mr. Hay is not telling us the whole story.

    Look at that face. Some people have a face you want to slap; some have a face that looks like they’d enjoy being slapped.

  175. @Jack D
    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn't make them laudable.

    It’s considered laudable by their African Christian peers, and African Christian society is a great deal healthier (meaning its prospects for future existence and influence) than ours.

  176. I suppose that when you start breaking society’s rules (by pretending to be a woman, for example) then it is difficult to know when to stop.
    Worse, if you are the sort of person who respects those who break society’s rules simply for the fact that they have broken them then you will be incapable of rendering judgement on your fellow man, dangerous or otherwise.

  177. That was a great story, but I wonder about its credibility. It’s based on a long interview with Hays, and not much more.

    Still, if even half of it is true, I nominate Hays for iSteve Man of the Decade. (Even as I realize this decade has another year and a half to go…)

  178. “The drumbeat of organized hatred, calling to mind yellow stars and separate drinking fountains and worse…”

    Noticing an unusual looking person, gassing the Jews, are they really that different?

    • Replies: @El Dato
    And what's worse?

    Fizzy drink-dispensing vending machines, that's what!
    , @Ozymandias
    For some reason, I've been thinking about this all day and come to the conclusion that I've been looking at it all wrong. While drawing a moral equivalency between feeling repulsed by a dude in a dress and the holocaust might seem insanely overblown to a rational person, if you're a morality warrior, fighting imaginary Nazis in your mind, then it all makes perfect sense. What I'm viewing as insanity the PC religious zealots see as an affirmation.
  179. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    Back in college we had a joke for things like this. Even though I’m not in the dining hall, I’ll make it here anyway: “Steve — there’s your girlfriend!”

  180. @Anona

    She just did the PhD. The brilliancy is still in the future … or not.
     
    Her Ph.D. is in applied physics, which is a fall-back when you wash out of hard physics. It's usually the equivalent of some sort of engineering degree -- still real STEM, but not physics. I've seen cases where a physics professor of color has an undergraduate B.S. in physics, and a Ph.D. in physics education, issued by the education department. That's really a fall-back! I've even seen one of those from Stanford where the physics department issued a physics degree to a PoC on the topic of teaching physics to minority populations. What a prostitution of the Stanford brand, laundering a grievance studies degree through the physics department.

    Were they mainly male or female POC?

    • Replies: @Anon
    Female PoC.

    And there was one white female physics professor whose PhD was not from the physics department.

    I have a bad habit of researching the careers of any black STEM professors I come across, so there may be a selection bias. Maybe there are white or Asian men with suspect degrees, but I doubt it.

    Another pattern is the biracial woman who identifies as black, but, for instance in the case of a professor in Washington state, has a Jewish father. In that case her PhD is legit, but she seems to spend most of her time on diversity and inclusion activism. I initially thought she was a tranny, her Twitter feed was so aggressively anti-patriarchy, but no. Although no more than half black, she behaves full black in the way she mentions her credentials at every opportunity.

    There's a black female math adjunct in Hawaii whose dissertation was a mashup of a math paper and a "sassy" autobiography of how hard it was for her to get her degree. It was the weirdest thing you can imagine, but of course the feminist blogs found it and you-go-girled it. Her advisor was a young Fields medalist who probably was afraid to object to her nonsense for fear of being cancelled.
  181. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    Do you know what the nutty roommate told the cops?

    It may be the case in CA that in any “domestic” they’re required to arrest anyone who is accused of a crime.

    The roommate may have falsely claimed to have been struck by your daughter.

    In any event, you may want to consult with local counsel in order to determine whether the University breached any duties to your daughter which have led to her injuries. Most specifically, has the University received past reports of aggressive behavior regarding the roommate, and what was its response?

    • Replies: @Anon
    Yes, many jurisdictions have domestic violence laws that tie the cops' hands, but that doesn't seem to be the case here because if the relationship had fallen within the DV definition, at least the roommate would have been arrested.

    As it happens a college student relative of mine was arrested for DV when she called the cops on her ex-boyfriend who had snuck into her dorm and pushed his way past her roommate into her room. There was drama before the cops arrived, and the ex got a tiny scratch on his face, enough to trigger a zero tolerance arrest of my relative, who had to show up in court because of local DV "must file" laws. The stalker was not arrested.

    This ended up costing a fortune since civil and criminal attorneys had to be engaged. The college was very unsympathetic (after all an arrest had been made), and my relative ended up withdrawing from the college. The stalker was from an URM with different cultural traditions, and of course everyone had warned the girl, but kids have to learn on their own I guess. She broke up with him after a very weird visit to his family, who seemed to assume that they were already engaged. On the bright side, she went with a normal, well-adjusted white guy for her next boyfriend.

    I guess the moral of the story is, if you show visible injuries but the other party doesn't, always lie to the cops and claim a brief romantic relationship. That'll get the other party arrested, upon which nobody wants to listen to him and he's hosed.

    , @PhysicistDave
    Alec Leamas wrote to me:

    It may be the case in CA that in any “domestic” they’re required to arrest anyone who is accused of a crime.
     
    Well, the crooked cop made the general statement that if the assailant goes to prison, then so does the victim. An obvious lie. We've talked to several other cops about it (LAPD as well as UC PD), and of course it is not true.

    As I said to Jack D, UCLA got in trouble just over a year ago with the CA Supreme Court for negligence with regard to student safety, and there are a huge number of recent cases in which the University has been exposed in coverups.

    One of the University administrators actually threatened to retaliate against my daughter, but my wife and I had gotten down to LA by that time, so we were in the room and called her out on it. Faced with mature adults willing to call her out, she of course backed down. She enjoys beating up on young people, but we were willing to walk out of the room and drive down to the LA Times (and an attorney).

    One of the nasty little games that college administrators play nowadays is to claim that eighteen or nineteen-year-olds are "adults," and so the administrators try to insist on dealing only with the student without a parent present. And, then when they deal with the student alone, they start trying to intimidate the student and insist that the student show the "respect" that a child owes to an adult.

    We actually have an email chain where a UCLA administrator tried to pull this stunt on our daughter, complaining about a lack of "respect" when our daughter quoted federal law.

    These are the sort of people you would mot want in your neighborhood, much less dealing with young people.

    I should add that the administrator thugs at UCLA are the administrators who actually have direct power over students. We know some other administrators down there -- e.g., people responsible for physical plant -- who are perfectly normal, decent human beings, but, of course, they lack the power to stop the thugs.

    I suppose what happens is that the people who get off on bullying and intimidating young students are those who fight and struggle to get into the positions where they can do just that. And, yes, the same people have certain student pets and young flunkies that they fawn upon: it's a very sick little game.

    Freud would have had a field day with these people!
  182. @The Alarmist
    Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/mischa-haider/headshot.jpg

    Steve should ban you for posting that.

    • LOL: AnotherDad
    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    I feel somewhat shamed now ... I might give myself a time-out.
  183. From the New Yorker/”The Cut” piece:

    “Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist…”

    Indian-Pakistani, eh?

    See this piece from the Jewish left magazine Tikkun entitled “Unrighteous Anger–Queen Vashti and the Erasure of Transgender Women” authored by Mischa Haider, Hay’s insane persecutor, and someone named Penina Weinberg. It revolves around the Book of Esther and the Jewish holiday of Purim.

    https://www.tikkun.org/tikkundaily/2016/05/13/unrighteous-anger-queen-vashti-and-the-erasure-of-transgender-women/

    Haider and Weinberg open the piece with this passage:

    “The night after Purim the two of us sat feasting – a queer Hebrew bible scholar and a trans woman activist. The book of Esther was on our minds, as we read Esther every year on Purim, the festival when we celebrate the brave Jewish queen who saves her people from annihilation in Persia.”

    So let’s run down the ethnicity of those circling around the witless Bruce Hay:

    Maria-Pia Schuman–Jew
    Mischa Haider–Jew
    Jennifer Zaks, ex-wife/live-in–Jew
    Kera Bolonik, the author of the New Yorker piece–Jew

    Wonder about the ethnicity of whatever Harvard commissar is in charge of investigating him and of the lawyer he’s now paying all his money to.

    So what we have here is a 52-year-old shaygetz in a shark tank of Jewish female insanity. The real question here is how the hard people who made their way across The Atlantic in flimsy little ships to take violent possession of this country and carve a nation out of the wilderness ended up, 20 generations or so later, embodied in this pathetic, feckless creature, the hapless plaything of this coven of Jewesses.

  184. @Jack D
    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn't make them laudable.

    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn’t make them laudable.

    Did God not enjoin us to be fruitful and multiply?

    The key is not “having” lots of children (this is a slippery term applied to derelicts and conscientious fathers alike), it is successfully rearing a brood of lots of children to be at the very least creditable, law-abiding, and productive members of society.

    In African society “having” lots of children is considered a form of wealth, probably because in old age you’ll have younger and still productive people to take care of you in a place without 401Ks, an inflated housing market, and Social Security and Medicare benefits.

    • Replies: @Verymuchalive
    Glad to see you hard at work again. I thought you had retired
    Of course, lots of African fathers of nine have multiple wives. Polygamy is very rarely a good thing.
  185. @HammerJack
    I'm sort of behind the curve on this: are trans people permitted to molest children yet?

    “… are trans people permitted to molest children yet?”

    Only in libraries.

  186. @Reg Cæsar
    A surprising note from Mia-Paria Pia-Maria Maria-Pia's father's Wikipedia bio, not about Mort but about his partner-- business partner, business partner!-- Doc Pomus:

    Pomus often drew on life events which inspired his creativity. It was after a break-up with his girlfriend that Pomus, who had been driving in his car, was struck in awe by the sounds of the car horns blaring amidst his thoughts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mort_Shuman
     

    Pomus was able to drive? In 1963? Cars were big then.


    https://blackcracker.fm/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Doc-Pomus.jpg

    (Does Maria-Pia still have her, um, pia?)


    From the Mort Shuman-Doc Pomus catalogue:


    Wrong for Each Other

    You go on your way
    I'll go on mine
    Please don't you call me
    Or drop me a line
    I'll be better off now
    With somebody new
    And you should find someone
    More suited to you
    Cause we're wrong for each other
    Wrong for each other
    Let's fight another round
    I couldn't explain it
    I can't tell you why
    I've got such a talent
    For making you cry
    And one day you'll thank me
    For saying so long
    For making an end to
    A love…

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-kjLYN8HU

    The model for John Goodman’s character in Inside Llewyn Davis.

  187. @snorlax
    Clerking for Scalia almost certainly won him his tenured professorship at HLS.

    I know a couple former SCOTUS clerks and not only are they always effusively complementary about the Justice they worked for, but even the Justices they didn't work for, including those they vehemently disagreed with. As far as I can tell other former clerks do the same, including for example Scalia clerk Ian Samuel, who's basically a communist.
    https://twitter.com/isamuel/status/1153820103634370560
    Hay published that tirade against his benefactor right after the man died, instead of having the barest minimum of decency to do so while he was still living, or the sub-minimum decency to at least wait a few months before speaking ill of the dead. What an ass indeed.

    The guy’s broke (in debt) and his career is hanging by a thread. He’s a dumb #$*! for sure but maybe it’s a “Hail Mary” of virtue signaling. There are PLENTY of liberals who’d KILL to teach at Harvard and take is place. Any hint of “transphobic” and he’s gone (Larry Summers gone.) Don’t forget that he taught decision making.

  188. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    That thing is hideous even by (((chosenite))) standards

  189. He didn’t mind that a physical relationship was probably off the table — he was taking antidepressants, which often hampered his ability to enjoy sex anyway.

    “Professor Bruce Hay never met a laptop he couldn’t lose- or a woman who couldn’t resist him. And this Harvard nebbish wasn’t about to let this mousy French woman not resist him now, not at the height of his beta male platonic living arrangement with his own wife.

    Maria-Pia Shuman couldn’t find batteries in a hardware store, but she knew how to find the positive and negative terminals on her Pakistani tranny pimp. And she knew the Potential Difference between a crappy apartment on Mass Ave and a 2-story Italianate in the heart of Cambridge.

    With side trips to dodgy Parisian sublets and euthanasia clinics in Zurich, The Bonfire of the Tranities will transport you to a world of sex without orgasms, title IX email chains, and academics with 140 IQs who don’t know how babies are made.”

  190. @ben tillman

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Twenty-one is not a "rate".

    The incidence of “trans people” in society is also not a “rate”.

  191. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist"

    What Indian/Pakistani is called "Mischa Haider"? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.


    More research needed.

    It’s a “drag name” — “Mensch Hater.”

  192. @ben tillman

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Twenty-one is not a "rate".

    The usual estimate I’ve heard is that they’re 1/300th of the population, so we would expect ~40 murders a year. 21 is remarkably low, particularly considering how many are prostitutes and/or junkies.

  193. @Lurker
    Surely the sort of paternity scam that the woman and her shemale were pulling pretty much died with the advent of DNA testing?

    You would think so, but Hay seems to be naive beyond belief according to his own account. I stress the words BEYOND BELIEF. There have been other cases of supposedly smart people being scammed when you think that they should have recognized the con job (Congressman Ed Mezvinsky falling for the Nigerian “black money” currency wash scam) but the essence of any con is that “you can’t cheat an honest man”.

    Sometimes I feel as if these scams are from a prior age, like some old movie that depends on the characters not having cell phones or the whole plot falls apart. An age before you could google “Nigerian black money scam” or “paternity DNA test”.

    • Replies: @Anne Lid

    the essence of any con is that “you can’t cheat an honest man”
     
    You most certainly can, as the honest man has less reason to think that the other would cheat him, than one who has himself cheated . It's just a cop-out for the scammer to alleviate any slight pangs of his atrophied conscience.
  194. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    This despite knowing

    1. She was sharing a house with a penis-having tranny who had fathered her two previous kids and who was listed as the father on the new baby’s birth certificate.
    2. She was also sharing the house with her unambiguously male ex-boyfriend.
     
    I think it says elsewhere that his live-in ex-wife tried to push the issue, but he felt that questioning Pia-Maria's version of events by demanding a paternity test would invalidate her identity as a Lesbian (who only had three pregnancies) by suggesting that she slept with men (besides him and the father(s) of her other kids).

    That’s the part I quoted?

    • Replies: @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    That’s the part I quoted?
     
    Yeah, I did that thing where I put the cursor over your handle in the comment you were responding to and read your comment in the box and then clicked and responded without first seeing the blockquote in your full comment.
  195. In your guts, you know they’re all nuts.

  196. @Mr. Anon
    Hay was a weirdo cuck-loser long before he met the LGBT Bunco-gang. He was living with his ex-wife:

    “Sorry, I’m married,” he responded impulsively. It wasn’t exactly true — Hay has been legally divorced since 1999, but he lives with his ex-wife, Jennifer Zacks, an assistant U.S. Attorney in Boston, and their two young children.
     
    I bet the former Mrs. Hay is a real winner too.

    Look closely fly-over America. These are your social superiors.

    Probably couldn’t face not living in Cambridge and couldn’t afford to buy the house twice. I knew a circle of people of this sort years ago, through a cousin. Many are professionally successful now, though train wrecks in their personal lives.

  197. @snorlax
    That's the part I quoted?

    That’s the part I quoted?

    Yeah, I did that thing where I put the cursor over your handle in the comment you were responding to and read your comment in the box and then clicked and responded without first seeing the blockquote in your full comment.

  198. @mmack
    The best comment from The Cut on this story is “There is absolutely nobody to sympathize with in this story”. The “wife” he divorced and returned to live with five years later doesn’t exactly cover herself with glory in any of this either.

    And Professor Hay:

    https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0535/6917/products/mistakesdemotivator.jpeg?v=1554328460

    We grow to soon old and too late smart .

  199. @utu
    Why did he write the 2016 article blaming Scalia after what Haider and Shuman did to him? Was it a part of some deal that they would get off his back or is he just that stupid?

    A lil’ of Column A, a lil’ of Column B

  200. The only sympathetic character in this sorry saga is the boy who had to witness his idiot father being ballyragged by perverts on the transom of his home, without then having the satisfaction of watching said perverts falling back in bloodied confusion.

  201. @Lurker
    Surely the sort of paternity scam that the woman and her shemale were pulling pretty much died with the advent of DNA testing?

    Surely the sort of paternity scam that the woman and her shemale were pulling pretty much died with the advent of DNA testing?

    You would think so but not always.

    An acknowledgement of paternity by the man can be difficult to undo because lots of States interject a “best interests of the child standard” and whatnot when the man later has evidence that the kid isn’t his, and the spouse of a mother is presumed to be the father and that’s hard to undo as well.

    The weird thing though is in the full article Hay told Shuman that he wanted to be present for the birth of the child and acknowledge his paternity but she refused.

    It sure looks like at least two and probably three mentally ill people interacting, and two of the three people definitely had malicious motives for the duration of their interactions.

  202. @J.Ross
    This is a little cold. The daughter was trying to get away. Responsible authorities would have had the roommate moved or had her out of the room during the move. There's no reason to assume anything you are touching upon like with the property. I've had a roommate who "snapped" and there was really nothing I could do, not even run away. The university practice of requiring people to live in dorms is brainless. A few years ago at Gonzaga a huge ex-con wandered into the dorms and randomly tried doors. The one he found open contained a student who was licensed for concealed carry. The student drew and the attacker ran off. Then the student was in trouble for having a gun on campus. This was brought up in a radio discussion, in which the caller insisted that you don't need guns because of "one good elbow to the chin." Discussing self-defense is a complete waste of time if we allow society to degenerate past a certain point and crucify anyone who tries to defend themselves.

    I know that this was cold but Dave is clearly caught up in this (understandably) and is not looking at the situation objectively and needs a reality check. He expects the police to appear instantly and to automatically side with his daughter and that’s not how it works in real life. We have to live in the real world as it is and base our expectations accordingly or we are going to be frustrated and angry at things that are just manifestations of the normal imperfect world that we live in.

    We haven’t heard the side of the “crazy” roommate. Every story has two sides, even when the other side involves someone who is allegedly mentally ill. It’s possible that if we heard the other girl’s story, we’d see that she really is crazy and Dave’s daughter is 100% in the right, but it’s also possible that there is more to this story than what we have heard. I have no doubt whatsoever that Dave is being 100% sincere and is telling us what he believes to be the absolute truth, but doesn’t mean that we now know the full story. Even Dave wasn’t there and is getting this story filtered thru his daughter.

  203. Lot says:
    @YetAnotherAnon
    "Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist"

    What Indian/Pakistani is called "Mischa Haider"? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.


    More research needed.

    I thought the same thing.

    Trannie choice in female first names is often strange.

    For the last name, could just be an Indian name that sounds European, or from an Indian name that was Germanized upon his grandfather’s migration to Germany.

    Kami-Sutra Mahatmapoon is a much better Indian transwoman name.

  204. @Genrick Yagoda
    That is the most unbelievable article I have ever read. Thanks for posting that.

    Would anyone have believed even 30 years ago that such a surreal series of events involving a Harvard professor would occur? If they made a movie of this, no one would see it, since it would be too far fetched.

    Now that you highlight this…

    [[mindblowage intensifies]]

    (Same as with the Mueller report which Mr. Mueller hasn’t even read or doesn’t remember reading. Or stuff. This stuff is unbelievable even compared to Warren Report standards.)

  205. @donut
    This story is hilarious . It should be worked into HS curricula every where along with basic financial survival information .
    For the movie I'm thinking Matt Damon as the prof. because of the great job he did in "The Informant" one of his two best performances . For directors I don't know many , just not Brian de Palma whom I hope will soon be watching an eternal loop of "Bonfire of the Vanities" in Hell .
    BTW OT but I thought of another good idea for a book or an HBO series . About 25 miles from Wash. D.C. there is a mountain that our Gov't is supposed to flee to in case of nuclear war . Imagine , if you will an alien (outerspace kind) trash disposal Co. illegally dumps a few hundred million tons of toxic waste on earth . Due to the urgent need to preserve the most valuable members of our society w/o whom we cannot possibly rebuild , a random collection of elected officials Trump and his cabinet , Biden , Pilosi , Schumer along with a grab bag of cucks and other idiots and bureaucrats are collected there but most important the "squad" and their entourages are rescued as well .

    Oh BTW the only weapons in the facility are held by the Marine unit tasked with security . Led by … hmmm . Col. .. I don’t know should he be stupid or cynical , or both ? Neither he should be patient , sly and calculating , not too bright though , maybe this guy :

  206. @snorlax

    Zacks pushed Hay to ask for a paternity test, but Hay wouldn’t have it. Not only did he trust Shuman, he felt it would have been insulting for a heterosexual cisgender man to question a professed lesbian as to whether she’d had sex with other men. He believed her when she said her sexual relationship with him was an exception.
     
    This despite knowing

    1. She was sharing a house with a penis-having tranny who had fathered her two previous kids and who was listed as the father on the new baby's birth certificate.
    2. She was also sharing the house with her unambiguously male ex-boyfriend.

    These all sound like patently unbelievable excuses for not doing it, even from someone as supposedly naive as Hay. They sound like something you’d find in a poorly written movie or novel where the writer is trying to plug obvious holes in the plot and the patches are a little too obvious.

    It sounds like Hay knows on some level that he isn’t the father but he doesn’t want to admit it to himself or his (live-in ex) spouse, because this would mean accepting that he had been scammed and was not the super sexy virile man that the baby mama said he was. I don’t know the custodial arrangements but you wouldn’t have to be Dick Tracy to stealthily obtain a saliva sample or used diaper from a baby without needing to ask the baby mama.

    Hay made up these elaborate high IQ rationalizations for why a test was not possible. Whether he was just making up excuses for his ex or whether he was in denial and lying to himself too – I’m not sure. The guy doesn’t seem to be the most mentally stable person around so I wouldn’t rule out the latter.

  207. @prime noticer
    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.

    i'm done giving these people the benefit of the doubt. in the past i could say they were smart, but see things a different way from me. hence their credentials and positions at ivy league universities. how could they not be smart if they were professors at harvard.

    not anymore. now i realize they're just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything. i'll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science, without extensive verification from unrelated sources.

    it probably wasn't always this way, but it's been this way for 20 years at least. these people are in an academic echo chamber and that's it. produce zero work of value, and have no idea what they're talking about. the idea that they are authorities on anything and their ideas and opinions should guide society is laughable bullshit.

    in fact today, it's probably required that they be dead wrong about everything, in order to get tenure.

    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.

    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything.

    Boy you can say that again. Of course, i myself was stupid enough to waste my time reading through most of this when some guy posted a link yesterday. (Fascinating like a car wreck.)

    That he’s a sad sack comes through right away with this weird thing where he’s living with his wife–but actually his ex-wife and “mostly platonic” … wtf!

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off … draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it. PIV at least three times a week–ok you young bucks can go for it more–keeps the bonding going. (One of our big problems seems to be that white men have let white women wander off the reservation … perhaps because they aren’t getting serviced enough?)

    Then he stumble bumbles into some kind of “relationship” with this girl, without ever giving her a good hard, fill-her-up shag… and then believes her you-made-me-pregnant bullshit. Then he has some sort of emotional relationship with the trans-pig!!! Does this guy have even an milligram of testosterone in him?

    And this moron is a Harvard law professor. LOL.

    One thing that’s become clear is this modern minoritarian leftist makes people stupid. Reading this guy’s interactions with the girl and tranny you get a distinct impression that beyond his stupidity and emotional neediness the guy’s politics has rendered him incapable of critical thinking about these “victims of oppression” … who are actually (obvious to any non-leftist addled brain) nasty, manipulative pieces of shit.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    So you have three factors:

    1. Mentally ill - clinically depressed, emotionally needy and naive.

    2. Incapable of critical thinking.

    3. Leftist.


    But in which direction do the arrows of causation point? Does mental illness cause Leftism or vice versa?
    , @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off …
     
    "She who does not bang, neither shall she eat."
    , @Kylie
    "Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it."

    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5'9", 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?

    That's not a husband, that's a john who's degraded his wife to the status of a whore.
    , @jesse helms think-alike

    no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off … draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it.
     
    Chuuch
    , @Stealth

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it.
     
    LOL. That's fucking stupid.
    , @Anonymous
    I'm not always the most "street smart" guy around, but if something like this

    When he directed her to another part of the store, she changed the subject. “By the way, you’re very attractive,” he remembers her saying.
     
    happened to me my internal "Scam Alarm" would be going off at a 120 dB. I know Hays probably felt lonely and vulnerable from his separation and blah blah blah, but, seriously, use some common fucking sense and your situational awareness. Does Hays really think that some random cute young woman is trying to pick up his decrepit ass in a hardware store? Does he really think in his present state he's "attractive"? Does this sound like real life, or like some cheesy Hollywood movie (a lot of Americans have difficulty making this distinction)?

    Good grief.
  208. Sorry if already mentioned, but I like what goes unsaid: his actual (ex) wife pretty much screws him too.

    He makes all the money, so they move back in with him. Her govt salary surely wouldn’t pay the bills or trips to Europe. She then gets him to sign over the $3mil house solely to her name.

    This guy is a loser, pure and simple. Typical Harvard.

  209. @Barnard
    One question that didn't get answered is how Hay and his ex-wife could have "young children" if they had been divorced since 1999 and had a "mostly platonic" relationship since moving back in together in 2004. What a bizarre life.

    Well we know Hay doesn’t believe in asking women for paternity tests, so maybe that’s a clue.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    Good point, it wouldn't be surprising if Hay doesn't have any biological children.
  210. From the linked article:

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21 trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.

    Let’s assume this is correct. They claim there are 1.4M transpeople in America. Which I kind of doubt.

    But assuming both numbers are accurate, this would be a rate of about 1.5 per 100k, considerably lower than the average for all Americans.

    • Replies: @Logan
    FWIW, the murder rate for black American men is somewhere in the upper 30s per 100k. Much, much higher of course for young ones.
    , @Skyler the Weird
    And it doesn't mention how many were killed in domestic disputes with live in lovers. Leads you to believe hands down (or hands up don't shoot it you prefer) that they were murdered by rednecks.
    , @CCZ
    Trans-murders: It's a BLACK thing!!

    Example: In 2015, the 23 murdered “transwomen” (“male” to “female”) included 15 blacks (65%), 4 Latinas, 2 whites, and 2 unidentified.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people#United_States_2

    “Confronting Black men’s roles in the murders of Black transgender women may be the only way to save our lives.”

    “The lives of both cisgender and transgender Black women have come under serious danger.... The unfortunate truth is that the violence perpetrated typically comes from the hands of Black men who are, according to the numbers, our most looming threat.

    The tragic fact here is that Black trans, as well as gender non-conforming, women are being killed in the United States by cis Black men to such a degree that it is nearly the worst emergency for trans women on the planet. America has the highest number of trans murders in the world with the exception of just two countries: Brazil and Mexico.

    The murders of Black trans women by Black men since 2016 have helped drive the most violent period for LGBT+ people on record.”

    https://thegrio.com/2019/06/24/confronting-black-mens-roles-in-the-murder-of-black-transgender-women/
    , @Jim Don Bob
    I read somewhere, and am too lazy to look it up, that the Social Security Administration, which has data on at least 300 million people, has about 30,00o who have changed their sex.

    That is 1 in 10,000.

    So, first we rearranged our country for the 13% of the population that is black.

    Next we rearranged our country for the half of the population that is female.

    Then we rearranged our country for the 2-4% of the population that is homo.

    Finally we rearranged our country for the 0.01% of the population that is trannie.

    The result is that everything bad in this country is the fault of white men.

    Any questions?
  211. @Ozymandias
    "The drumbeat of organized hatred, calling to mind yellow stars and separate drinking fountains and worse..."

    Noticing an unusual looking person, gassing the Jews, are they really that different?

    And what’s worse?

    Fizzy drink-dispensing vending machines, that’s what!

  212. @Anon
    Rule number one about making smart judgment calls in life is that people who just walk up to you and try to latch on to you immediately generally are up to trouble and have an agenda they expect you to fulfill. People who are psychologically normal don't do this.

    A child could walk up to you and do this, but not an adult. An adult is expected to have formed their own lives by now, know their own interests and mind, be capable of getting themselves out of trouble on their own, and they have picked their own social circle already. Their friends are the ones they call to get them out of trouble, not random strangers they've walked up to. If someone is trying to get the help of a random stranger it's because they have no friends. They have no friends because they're absolutely toxic people.

    There is a real benefit to living in a traditional society in which everyone has been raised with a familiar social circle all their life and has had plenty of time to become acquainted everyone else's behavior and reputation. That way you know everyone's bonafides.

    Rule number one about making smart judgment calls in life is that people who just walk up to you and try to latch on to you immediately generally are up to trouble and have an agenda they expect you to fulfill. People who are psychologically normal don’t do this.

    Very important point. And if they do it with facility, it’s double trouble: psychopaths are the kings of the first impression.

  213. @International Jew
    Steve should ban you for posting that.

    I feel somewhat shamed now … I might give myself a time-out.

  214. @snorlax
    Is "it was a dark and stormy night" actually bad prose, or is it more of a "Seinfeld is unfunny" / "Beatles sound generic" / "Halloween is a formulaic slasher" thing? More the second, I think.

    “Is “it was a dark and stormy night” actually bad prose?”

    I think it’s kinda atmospheric. IIRC a young John Cleese and others used it for one of the stories in their radio comedy shows.

    “It was a dark and stormy night (doomy music)…the wind howled in the trees (sound fx of wolves howling) … the rain lashed down (fx of a whiplash and a scream of pain)”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Sorry,_I%27ll_Read_That_Again

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    It's really not that bad if you go on to bear it out, kind of like how Dracula is a cheesy cliche but Christopher Lee had an undeniable presence. The implication is the sentence is not borne out with supporting imagery and is therefore telling instead of showing.
  215. Lot says:
    @guest
    I only know that fella as writer of several Drifters tunes, during the era when they were produced by Leiber and Stoller. Some theorize Phil Spector worked on ones like This Magic Moment and Save the Last Dance considering the recordings have a Spectorish sound.

    I prefer Some Kind of Wonderful in the Drifter catalogue, but that one was written by Goffin and King.

    He also co-wrote Elvis’s 1961 hit Marie’s the Name (His Latest Flame), which has a proto-Wall of Sound element to it.

    Shuman wrote it however for Del Shannon, who had an even more futuristic sounding hit with Runaway the same year (the first hit song to use an electric keyboard).

  216. @J.Ross
    What would you think if Ruth Bader Ginsberg died in a particular way, at a particular location used by Mexican cartels to dispose of bodies, and then it came out that I had written (and narrowly circulated among militant enemies of Ginsberg) an "idea for a movie" describing those exact details, implying but not specifying Ginsberg, and including a map of the real location?
    That happened with Scalia and it ended just like Alefantis's gallery of duct taped children and the Podesta's paintings of scared children.
    But hey. Turns out ICE raids bothered 35 illegals, who will now be apologized to and released back into the American interior by bad judges. So we got that goin' for us.

    Who foretold Scalia’s death?

    Scalia was a 79 year old man with heart disease. He had, shortly before his death, been deemed not healthy enough to undergo minor surgery. Some of his companions at the ranch stated that Scalia had reported not feeling well the night before his death. There was no sign of any disturbance in his room.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    That doesn't mean he wasn't murdered, only that it would be easy. The death of Gorky is still an open question. Exact details before the event in Podesta's emails are a bizarre coincidence at best. But the certainty is that it will not be investigated, even as everybody who ever ate lunch with Trump is, just in case they pronounce their H's as G's.
    , @Pericles

    There was no sign of any disturbance in his room.

     

    He was found with a pillow over his face.
  217. Theme song ?

    A little help here bitches , you know “the wisdom of crowds” . And just to head off any smartasses not wisdom of ignoring the donut .

    • Replies: @donut
    Just store it away for later : opening shot EP5 season 1 Act 2 scene one : the Marine quarters with this song playing in the background :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5WRyVKbjR8

    And then some amusing to the point blue collar chat with a subtle reference to the episode plot line .

    Closing scene and credits : Sleepy Joe tucked in for the night with the same song playing quietly on his iTunes as he chuckles and falls off to sleep .
  218. @Gordo
    What is with all these guys in the story not being able to cum?

    I mean it can't be a disgust reflex on their part because they don't seem to have one

    Not being able to ejaculate is a side effect of anti depressants. It’s the most horrifying and ominous side effect, something that makes you very wary of continuing medication.

    • Replies: @Gordo
    Indeed, so these academic and grad student types, two in the same story, are all depressed and on meds and can't finish.

    Makes you wonder if its a high IQ thing, or their Ivy League environment, or they just look at themselves one day and say WTF?
  219. @Jack D

    i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science,
     
    This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study (and does not have political implications - e.g. global warming). That being said, keep in mind that in many cutting edge fields of science, the science is not settled and for every expert that says X you can find another one who will tell you not X.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are "on the spectrum" (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.

    “This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study”

    hence the rest of my sentence. without extensive verification from unrelated sources.

    harvard SCIENCE professors are LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE half the time. have you not noticed this? i’m talking about things they are supposed to be experts on.

    we’re putting aside the factor of science being unsettled in many cases, and going directly into obvious situations of them deliberately being wrong, sometimes on purpose.

    the standard for non-political technical work at the ivy league universities is dogshit half the time. again, it wasn’t always this way, but is CLEARLY THIS WAY NOW. is there still ground breaking and correct work being done? yes. at the same time, is lots of the work being done today simply total bullshit and misleading garbage? how could you not see that.

    ivy league professors are just dead wrong about certain SCIENCE AND MEDICINE topics now some of the time.

    it’s a good thing most critical engineering doesn’t come out of these places.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    “it’s a good thing most critical engineering doesn’t come out of these places.”

    Where are some places in the US? Any thoughts on Chinese universities?
  220. In the science fiction novel ‘The Forever War’, the hero returns to Earth several hundred years after he left (due to the effects of time dilation) only to find that his society had been taken over by bizarre sexual deviants.
    Nowadays, you can get the same sense of alienation just by returning home after a fortnight’s holiday.

    • Agree: theMann
    • Replies: @Corn
    True. I’m 39 and Bill Clinton’s 1990s America seems downright conservative.
    , @Pericles
    Welcome to Pride Month, soon to be Pride Year!
    , @Lurker

    to find that his society had been taken over by bizarre sexual deviants
     
    As a result of deliberate government policy.
  221. @snorlax
    Is "it was a dark and stormy night" actually bad prose, or is it more of a "Seinfeld is unfunny" / "Beatles sound generic" / "Halloween is a formulaic slasher" thing? More the second, I think.

    What if it actually “was a dark and stormy night?”

    There is a difference between cliche (overuse) and bad writing as such.

    BTW, watched the Maltese Falcon with my teen daughter not too long ago. She complained about the cliches in the story. So I had to explain that MF had invented most of those story lines.

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    What if it actually “was a dark and stormy night?”

    There is a difference between cliche (overuse) and bad writing as such.
     
    I was thinking about that the other day, when a car screeched to a halt outside my window.
  222. @Logan
    From the linked article:

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21 trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.

    Let's assume this is correct. They claim there are 1.4M transpeople in America. Which I kind of doubt.

    But assuming both numbers are accurate, this would be a rate of about 1.5 per 100k, considerably lower than the average for all Americans.

    FWIW, the murder rate for black American men is somewhere in the upper 30s per 100k. Much, much higher of course for young ones.

  223. @AnotherDad

    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.
    ...
    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything.
     
    Boy you can say that again. Of course, i myself was stupid enough to waste my time reading through most of this when some guy posted a link yesterday. (Fascinating like a car wreck.)

    That he's a sad sack comes through right away with this weird thing where he's living with his wife--but actually his ex-wife and "mostly platonic" ... wtf!

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off ... draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it. PIV at least three times a week--ok you young bucks can go for it more--keeps the bonding going. (One of our big problems seems to be that white men have let white women wander off the reservation ... perhaps because they aren't getting serviced enough?)

    Then he stumble bumbles into some kind of "relationship" with this girl, without ever giving her a good hard, fill-her-up shag... and then believes her you-made-me-pregnant bullshit. Then he has some sort of emotional relationship with the trans-pig!!! Does this guy have even an milligram of testosterone in him?

    And this moron is a Harvard law professor. LOL.

    One thing that's become clear is this modern minoritarian leftist makes people stupid. Reading this guy's interactions with the girl and tranny you get a distinct impression that beyond his stupidity and emotional neediness the guy's politics has rendered him incapable of critical thinking about these "victims of oppression" ... who are actually (obvious to any non-leftist addled brain) nasty, manipulative pieces of shit.

    So you have three factors:

    1. Mentally ill – clinically depressed, emotionally needy and naive.

    2. Incapable of critical thinking.

    3. Leftist.

    But in which direction do the arrows of causation point? Does mental illness cause Leftism or vice versa?

  224. It’s almost as if there’s a correlation between mental illness and transgenderism.

  225. @Smithsonian
    In the science fiction novel 'The Forever War', the hero returns to Earth several hundred years after he left (due to the effects of time dilation) only to find that his society had been taken over by bizarre sexual deviants.
    Nowadays, you can get the same sense of alienation just by returning home after a fortnight's holiday.

    True. I’m 39 and Bill Clinton’s 1990s America seems downright conservative.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    Back in the 2000s, my peers and I did/said stuff as boys that would earn us a quick ticket to the social media auto-da-fe today.

    ("Smear the Queer"... I didn't even know what a "queer" was in elementary school! I just liked running around and tackling.)

  226. Mischa Haider, the crazy trans-physicist, has written for Huffington Post.
    https://www.huffpost.com/author/mischa-haider-798

  227. @donut
    Theme song ?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOeKidp-iWo

    A little help here bitches , you know "the wisdom of crowds" . And just to head off any smartasses not wisdom of ignoring the donut .

    Just store it away for later : opening shot EP5 season 1 Act 2 scene one : the Marine quarters with this song playing in the background :

    And then some amusing to the point blue collar chat with a subtle reference to the episode plot line .

    Closing scene and credits : Sleepy Joe tucked in for the night with the same song playing quietly on his iTunes as he chuckles and falls off to sleep .

    • Replies: @donut
    opening scene Ep. 5
  228. OT from The Atlantic.

    What if Trump isn’t an antisemite after all?

    The comedian Chris Rock performed a classic comedy sketch about how bigotry always accelerates toward the Jews at the end. “That train,” he quipped, “is never late!” But what if that train is late? What if it’s been canceled altogether, at least insofar as it departs from Trump Station? What if the old community of interest between American Jews and other minorities is dissolving, leaving only the weaker tie of a community of values?

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/has-trump-abandoned-anti-semitism/594619/

    • Replies: @silviosilver

    What if Trump isn’t an antisemite after all?
     
    Meh. Alan "The Case Against Impeaching Trump" Dershowitz realized Trump was "good for the Jews" much earlier.
  229. Anorgasmia is a very common side effect of SSRIs in men. Not impotence, mind you, just the final portion of the event doesn’t take place. It’s underappreciated even by psychiatrists and the drugs are overprescribed to men. There are other classes of antidepressants that work equally well at treating depression but which do not have this side effect. Along with everything else, this guy probably had bad doctors.

  230. @EldnahYm
    Note that Bruce Hay has children. That such nutcases are reproducing is discomforting.

    “Note that Bruce Hay has children. That such nutcases are reproducing is discomforting.”

    He’s registered as the father, anyway. After reading that story, who knows if they’re his?

    It sounds as if these two folie-a-deux oddballs had been playing this twisted power game for a while and hit the jackpot when Shuman approached Hay.

    Hay, while in law the wronged party, is about to discover (if he hasn’t already) that, while a woman conned in this way might get sympathy (“in a bitter irony, she was lecturing Harvard students on decision-making, even while making the worst decisions of her life“), a male will get no sympathy and a lot of ridicule, even to the point of making his employment untenable. I hope he’s got a good lawyer 😉

  231. @AnotherDad

    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.
    ...
    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything.
     
    Boy you can say that again. Of course, i myself was stupid enough to waste my time reading through most of this when some guy posted a link yesterday. (Fascinating like a car wreck.)

    That he's a sad sack comes through right away with this weird thing where he's living with his wife--but actually his ex-wife and "mostly platonic" ... wtf!

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off ... draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it. PIV at least three times a week--ok you young bucks can go for it more--keeps the bonding going. (One of our big problems seems to be that white men have let white women wander off the reservation ... perhaps because they aren't getting serviced enough?)

    Then he stumble bumbles into some kind of "relationship" with this girl, without ever giving her a good hard, fill-her-up shag... and then believes her you-made-me-pregnant bullshit. Then he has some sort of emotional relationship with the trans-pig!!! Does this guy have even an milligram of testosterone in him?

    And this moron is a Harvard law professor. LOL.

    One thing that's become clear is this modern minoritarian leftist makes people stupid. Reading this guy's interactions with the girl and tranny you get a distinct impression that beyond his stupidity and emotional neediness the guy's politics has rendered him incapable of critical thinking about these "victims of oppression" ... who are actually (obvious to any non-leftist addled brain) nasty, manipulative pieces of shit.

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off …

    “She who does not bang, neither shall she eat.”

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    That's the best prescription for America's 'obesity epidemic' I've heard yet.
  232. @The Alarmist
    Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/mischa-haider/headshot.jpg

    Meh, throw in puberty-onset obesity, 80% of the fatso-chicks everywhere in public look just like that guy.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  233. A multitude of interesting comments; however,

    Crazy is the Tar Baby of human existence. There is no engaging it where you come out better off. The entire Qwerty/tranny/non-binary whateverness is the mother of all Crazy. You cannot engage it, sanitize your life from it and move on.

  234. @Jack D
    Who foretold Scalia's death?

    Scalia was a 79 year old man with heart disease. He had, shortly before his death, been deemed not healthy enough to undergo minor surgery. Some of his companions at the ranch stated that Scalia had reported not feeling well the night before his death. There was no sign of any disturbance in his room.

    That doesn’t mean he wasn’t murdered, only that it would be easy. The death of Gorky is still an open question. Exact details before the event in Podesta’s emails are a bizarre coincidence at best. But the certainty is that it will not be investigated, even as everybody who ever ate lunch with Trump is, just in case they pronounce their H’s as G’s.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    even as everybody who ever ate lunch with Trump is, just in case they pronounce their H’s as G’s.

     

    Ginsburg's Ghost. He orders his steak well-done with ketchup.
  235. @Corn
    True. I’m 39 and Bill Clinton’s 1990s America seems downright conservative.

    Back in the 2000s, my peers and I did/said stuff as boys that would earn us a quick ticket to the social media auto-da-fe today.

    (“Smear the Queer”… I didn’t even know what a “queer” was in elementary school! I just liked running around and tackling.)

    • Replies: @Corn
    I remember in high school in the ‘90s if a guy didn’t like something it was “gay”. If something was weird it was “faggy”.

    By the standards of the Current Year about every guy who was an adolescent in the ‘90s should be in an internment camp.
  236. @donut
    Just store it away for later : opening shot EP5 season 1 Act 2 scene one : the Marine quarters with this song playing in the background :

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5WRyVKbjR8

    And then some amusing to the point blue collar chat with a subtle reference to the episode plot line .

    Closing scene and credits : Sleepy Joe tucked in for the night with the same song playing quietly on his iTunes as he chuckles and falls off to sleep .

    opening scene Ep. 5

  237. @Hhsiii
    This Shuman gal actually has a decent reputation score, listing Mr Hay and Ms Zacks as neighbors:

    https://www.mylife.com/maria-shuman/e82053195967518

    Apparently you didn’t scroll down far enough.

    “Maria Shuman is 36 years old and a dangerous psychopath.”

    Or else you use the definition of “decent” approved of by enemies of the patriarchy.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    No I saw that. I was just kidding around, and fact she got a 3 point something or other, which is “fair”. I think someone just filled in dangerous psychopath yesterday. It also listed her, Hay and Zacks at the same address.

    There’s also a picture of a Maria-Pia Shuman on Facebook. Not the mom. Doesn’t look like the picture in the article but hard to tell.

    You can also see a pic of Zacks holding a dog if you do a google search. Can’t tell much. Decent face. Cute dimple when she smiles.

    Hay is pathologically selfless. Shuman and Haider are sadistic freaks. All they seem to get out of this seems to be the thrill of torturing Hay and his ex and children.
  238. @AnotherDad

    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.
    ...
    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything.
     
    Boy you can say that again. Of course, i myself was stupid enough to waste my time reading through most of this when some guy posted a link yesterday. (Fascinating like a car wreck.)

    That he's a sad sack comes through right away with this weird thing where he's living with his wife--but actually his ex-wife and "mostly platonic" ... wtf!

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off ... draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it. PIV at least three times a week--ok you young bucks can go for it more--keeps the bonding going. (One of our big problems seems to be that white men have let white women wander off the reservation ... perhaps because they aren't getting serviced enough?)

    Then he stumble bumbles into some kind of "relationship" with this girl, without ever giving her a good hard, fill-her-up shag... and then believes her you-made-me-pregnant bullshit. Then he has some sort of emotional relationship with the trans-pig!!! Does this guy have even an milligram of testosterone in him?

    And this moron is a Harvard law professor. LOL.

    One thing that's become clear is this modern minoritarian leftist makes people stupid. Reading this guy's interactions with the girl and tranny you get a distinct impression that beyond his stupidity and emotional neediness the guy's politics has rendered him incapable of critical thinking about these "victims of oppression" ... who are actually (obvious to any non-leftist addled brain) nasty, manipulative pieces of shit.

    “Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it.”

    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5’9″, 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?

    That’s not a husband, that’s a john who’s degraded his wife to the status of a whore.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The only way that pairing would exist would be if the guy were a master of personality and manipulation, in which case yes he is getting laid.
    , @snorlax
    Yes, the expectation of regular sex in a relationship isn't reasonable if your partner is making an effort to maintain his/her attractiveness and you aren't.

    "Whenever and wherever" is also rather extreme and absurd if taken literally. "Your mother just had a stroke / you have to catch a plane / it's our kid's birthday party / you have the flu / you're taking the nurse practitioner exam in the morning; let's have sex right now."
    , @HammerJack
    Yeah, that's ridiculous. What I can't understand about AD here is why he (or any man) would want sex which isn't freely and eagerly shared.

    How is it a turn-on if the other part has to be compelled, cajoled, required, rented? Doesn't that imply something pretty unfortunate about your own appeal?

    I'm 100% male and have always been (and will always be, so long as I can stay out of the clutches of Current Year Democrats). But for the life of me I sometimes simply cannot understand how certain other men are constructed.

    Having said all of that, I certainly understand the appeal of D/S sex. Without getting into TMI, I understand it very well. But that's another matter entirely. I wouldn't want it with someone who didn't want it at least as much as I do, preferably more.

    , @AnotherDad


    “Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it.”
     
    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5’9″, 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?
     
    Snorlax basically covered the territory for me. Obviously my statement doesn't cover every exact--hey the kid needs to go tot he hospital--case. But it's the gist of it.

    You morbidly obese case:

    I find a lot of Americans to be physically unpleasant now. People i wouldn't want to have sex with then even if i loved them. I think a lot of Americans are walking insults to their spouses. But that's me. If it's the case for your hypothetical woman--fine. But then this morbidly obese case should have been dealt with before he was mordibly obese--it didn't happen in one night. And if he does not reform and make himself physically palatable to his wife ... then yes she can go on a sex strike. But at that point--the marriage is over. It's basically an announcement by the wife that he has failed the basics. If the guy really values the marriage, he can turn it around ... but if he wanted to he would have done it already.

    At root--my point--a healthy marriage requires a healthy sex life. And guys in particular--but a lot of women too--do not sign up to marriage to be put off. If that even starts to occur it means the woman no longer respects the guy and that is absolute death to the marriage. A guy can not beg--that loses even more respect. He must demand that his needs are met, and if she is unwilling than obviously he has lost her respect, her desire for him as a husband. It's done.

    Sex is simply not an optional part of marriage. And not one--either partner--should be negoitiating for. For guys--she starts to jack you around;l ay down the law, or end it.
  239. @ben tillman

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Twenty-one is not a "rate".

    Take a look at the statistics. It’s getting more difficult to identify the race involved in the most recent reports, but the vast majority have been M2F POC working in the “sex industry,” and killed by other POC.

    I suspect most of these killings would have been avoided if the victim had been honest avout their status at the beginning of the transaction.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    NBA player Reggie Bullock’s brother/sister was a male to female trans who was murdered in Baltimore in 2014.
  240. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Is “it was a dark and stormy night” actually bad prose?"

    I think it's kinda atmospheric. IIRC a young John Cleese and others used it for one of the stories in their radio comedy shows.

    “It was a dark and stormy night (doomy music)...the wind howled in the trees (sound fx of wolves howling) ... the rain lashed down (fx of a whiplash and a scream of pain)”
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27m_Sorry,_I%27ll_Read_That_Again

    It’s really not that bad if you go on to bear it out, kind of like how Dracula is a cheesy cliche but Christopher Lee had an undeniable presence. The implication is the sentence is not borne out with supporting imagery and is therefore telling instead of showing.

  241. @Mr McKenna
    I've read the story now and I've a feeling your remark is accurate in many more ways than one. Maybe 57 ways, but who's counting?

    At this point, I never want to be right about anything.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Oh brother, I know exactly how you feel.
  242. @Kylie
    "Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it."

    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5'9", 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?

    That's not a husband, that's a john who's degraded his wife to the status of a whore.

    The only way that pairing would exist would be if the guy were a master of personality and manipulation, in which case yes he is getting laid.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    Her hypothetical would be an extreme case, but I and I'm sure you can think of plenty of couples we know where one of the two became obese in middle age.
    , @Kylie
    Wrong. You're assuming both spouses always looked--and smelled-- like that. I can think of several married couples, in which both partners were attractive in youth and then one let himself or herself go while the other aged in a normal manner.
  243. anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @StevenotSailer
    The first thing I thought of upon completing my read of the underlying article was, "Those whom the gods would destroy they first make mad." Then I laughed and laughed and laughed. God, thank you for making me a simple deplorable.

    Was it aloud, cackling type laugh with a sob at the end?

  244. @Kylie
    "Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it."

    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5'9", 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?

    That's not a husband, that's a john who's degraded his wife to the status of a whore.

    Yes, the expectation of regular sex in a relationship isn’t reasonable if your partner is making an effort to maintain his/her attractiveness and you aren’t.

    “Whenever and wherever” is also rather extreme and absurd if taken literally. “Your mother just had a stroke / you have to catch a plane / it’s our kid’s birthday party / you have the flu / you’re taking the nurse practitioner exam in the morning; let’s have sex right now.”

    • Agree: Kylie
    • Replies: @nebulafox
    I agree that "whenever and wherever" is ridiculous. People get tired or down or occupied: things happen. To expect your partner to be ready to drop their pants whenever you demand it is childish.

    But I cannot understand, for the life of me, the concept of a sexless relationship. What kind of a neuter as a man do you need to be to tolerate that? Even at my most cringy and desperate in college, a relationship where sex was a blue moon event held no interest. If you are both busy people, there's such a thing as quickies, and you have time for them. If you aren't, then there's a deeper issue that needs addressing: usually lack of sexual attraction, which may (obseity) or may not (the lack of real, active desire to be with the other-it is just inertia) be fixable.

  245. @Ozymandias
    "The drumbeat of organized hatred, calling to mind yellow stars and separate drinking fountains and worse..."

    Noticing an unusual looking person, gassing the Jews, are they really that different?

    For some reason, I’ve been thinking about this all day and come to the conclusion that I’ve been looking at it all wrong. While drawing a moral equivalency between feeling repulsed by a dude in a dress and the holocaust might seem insanely overblown to a rational person, if you’re a morality warrior, fighting imaginary Nazis in your mind, then it all makes perfect sense. What I’m viewing as insanity the PC religious zealots see as an affirmation.

  246. @J.Ross
    The only way that pairing would exist would be if the guy were a master of personality and manipulation, in which case yes he is getting laid.

    Her hypothetical would be an extreme case, but I and I’m sure you can think of plenty of couples we know where one of the two became obese in middle age.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    The norm is that the woman gets fat, in fact it's normal to see an in-shape guy with a fat girlfriend.
  247. @HammerJack
    Is that really true? I hesitate to ask because I'm not sure I really want to know. But I guess I should.

    They want you not to ask, to hide under your bed, hoping the monster eats elsewhere. Put it this way: has anything this crumby ever not become crumbier?

    To paraphrase Newton’s First Law of Motion:
    A society in downward motion tends to continue downward unless stopped by an immovable objection.

  248. @snorlax
    Yes, the expectation of regular sex in a relationship isn't reasonable if your partner is making an effort to maintain his/her attractiveness and you aren't.

    "Whenever and wherever" is also rather extreme and absurd if taken literally. "Your mother just had a stroke / you have to catch a plane / it's our kid's birthday party / you have the flu / you're taking the nurse practitioner exam in the morning; let's have sex right now."

    I agree that “whenever and wherever” is ridiculous. People get tired or down or occupied: things happen. To expect your partner to be ready to drop their pants whenever you demand it is childish.

    But I cannot understand, for the life of me, the concept of a sexless relationship. What kind of a neuter as a man do you need to be to tolerate that? Even at my most cringy and desperate in college, a relationship where sex was a blue moon event held no interest. If you are both busy people, there’s such a thing as quickies, and you have time for them. If you aren’t, then there’s a deeper issue that needs addressing: usually lack of sexual attraction, which may (obseity) or may not (the lack of real, active desire to be with the other-it is just inertia) be fixable.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Women value being able to use men for non-sexual ends (at very least, being able to say they're not alone) and the man puts up with it because he thinks one of these days an opened pickle jar is going to turn her on.
    , @snorlax
    There are couples who are no longer attracted to each other but stay together to raise their minor children, where one or both partners aren't able to have sex due to old age, injury or illness, where both are for whatever reason (low sex drive, religious strictures, gay man married to a lesbian, etc.) happy despite it being sexless or near-sexless, and so on.

    But in most or all of those cases I think it's acceptable if at least one of the partners wants to make it non-monogamous, and unreasonable for the other partner to deny that request.
    , @SFG
    They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.
  249. @Bardon Kaldian
    I must admit, I'm totally confused. OK, I was too lazy to read everything (now, I'm seriously reading much more interesting stuff). But, here I see 4 people:

    * Scalia
    * Hay, some guy who clerked for Scalia
    * Shuman, who is I guess a woman
    * Haider, a physicist who is a m>f tranny

    Did I get it right?

    Then someone pumped Shuman & Hay thinks he's the father. But- maybe not. Maybe it was tranny.

    Is it the story?

    If yes, what Scalia has got to do with all this?

    If not - what the whole fuss is about?

    By the way, I support genuine transpeople (unlike, I think, 98% people on this site)- but this whole story is downright bizarre. What's the issue, after all?

    The whole story is an elaborate punchline about how Bruce hay is the kind of person teaching judgment and decision making at Harvard. Literally this story is the level of judgement and decision making that comes out of the ivory tower establishment.

    But one doesn’t expect them to think to reassess their political views when confronted with the deficiencies in how their judgment assesses reality.

    But it does tell us how far these people are from being able to figure out what the racial achievement gap is really about given that some of them can’t even figure out that they’re being conned when it smacks them in the face like this.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    The whole story is an elaborate punchline about how Bruce hay is the kind of person teaching judgment and decision making at Harvard.
     
    Oh, God.... I missed that part.

    Regarding the whole story, it is basically about immense potential of hallucination in a soft society. One cannot blame Roman senators in the Caligula-horse case (after all, it was a life or death situation).
    But this...

    How spineless can you get? Delusional? What is human nature?
  250. @Pericles

    Something out of a Greg Bear or Greg Egan story, shurely?
     
    Neal Stephenson, this is your breakout moment. Seize the day.

    The is a Tranny in Fall who becomes an internet sensation because his music was the last thing a character was listening to when they died.

  251. @Bigdicknick
    Well we know Hay doesn't believe in asking women for paternity tests, so maybe that's a clue.

    Good point, it wouldn’t be surprising if Hay doesn’t have any biological children.

  252. @nebulafox
    I agree that "whenever and wherever" is ridiculous. People get tired or down or occupied: things happen. To expect your partner to be ready to drop their pants whenever you demand it is childish.

    But I cannot understand, for the life of me, the concept of a sexless relationship. What kind of a neuter as a man do you need to be to tolerate that? Even at my most cringy and desperate in college, a relationship where sex was a blue moon event held no interest. If you are both busy people, there's such a thing as quickies, and you have time for them. If you aren't, then there's a deeper issue that needs addressing: usually lack of sexual attraction, which may (obseity) or may not (the lack of real, active desire to be with the other-it is just inertia) be fixable.

    Women value being able to use men for non-sexual ends (at very least, being able to say they’re not alone) and the man puts up with it because he thinks one of these days an opened pickle jar is going to turn her on.

  253. @snorlax
    Her hypothetical would be an extreme case, but I and I'm sure you can think of plenty of couples we know where one of the two became obese in middle age.

    The norm is that the woman gets fat, in fact it’s normal to see an in-shape guy with a fat girlfriend.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    The norm is that the woman gets fat, in fact it’s normal to see an in-shape guy with a fat girlfriend.
     
    Probably the most common is fat couple or fat family.

    But this--fat wife, normal guy--is ridiculously common. The wife a walking--waddling--insult to her husband. One assumes they guy is doing his basic job of providing money--someone is buying her food! (Probably even improving his financial prospects aover time.) But she's not doing even her basic job of providing decent sex to her husband.

    I don't like going all Whiskey but white women really do seem to have "left the reservation". Zero accountablity. This ship won't be righted until white men take back control.
  254. “This past fall, I met Doe, who told me Shuman appeared out of nowhere at an intersection where he was standing with two colleagues and started chatting him up

    Rumplestilskin appeared to the maiden and promised to spin straw into gold in exchange for her necklace, then her ring, then her first born child.

    the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”)

    Is that what they encourage the kids to call her or is that something the kids came up with? It’s genius she certainly is a “ma-man.”

    This really is a modern day fairy tale. 100 years from now the good people of trumps america will tuck in their little trumpenkins at night to recite the tale of Mia-pia and Ma-man. Two evil imp like creatures appear to a hapless liberal professor. They promise him sexual debauchery and a cure for all his worldly ills. They send him on vacation but when he returns the goblins have moved into his house, thrown out all of his stuff, and pawned off his family heirlooms. It’s not even his house anymore, they’ve tricked him into signing it away! Of course the moral of the story is…

    I just really hate the patriarchy, that’s it.”

    • Replies: @Pericles

    Is that what they encourage the kids to call her or is that something the kids came up with? It’s genius she certainly is a “ma-man.”

     

    Heh, excellent. Though 'maman' is also just French for 'mom'.
    , @Pericles

    This really is a modern day fairy tale. 100 years from now the good people of trumps america will tuck in their little trumpenkins at night to recite the tale of Mia-pia and Ma-man. Two evil imp like creatures appear to a hapless liberal professor. They promise him sexual debauchery and a cure for all his worldly ills. They send him on vacation but when he returns the goblins have moved into his house, thrown out all of his stuff, and pawned off his family heirlooms. It’s not even his house anymore, they’ve tricked him into signing it away!

     

    You're on fire today.
  255. @Logan
    From the linked article:

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21 trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.

    Let's assume this is correct. They claim there are 1.4M transpeople in America. Which I kind of doubt.

    But assuming both numbers are accurate, this would be a rate of about 1.5 per 100k, considerably lower than the average for all Americans.

    And it doesn’t mention how many were killed in domestic disputes with live in lovers. Leads you to believe hands down (or hands up don’t shoot it you prefer) that they were murdered by rednecks.

  256. @HammerJack
    I'm sort of behind the curve on this: are trans people permitted to molest children yet?

    Love is Love!

  257. @Twinkie

    a debilitating depression... attempt suicide at a rate greater than 40 percent
     
    Because these people are mentally ill, perhaps?

    And from the pain of rejection by family and former friends who, despite her prodigious achievements, are somehow ashamed to be associated with her.
     
    I think most normal people are embarrassed to be associated with a mentally ill person.

    not matching someone else’s idea of how women are supposed to look.
     
    Such as looking like men, because they are?

    In Harvard Square you have to be _really_ crazy for anyone to even notice you, much less stare at you.

  258. @nebulafox
    I agree that "whenever and wherever" is ridiculous. People get tired or down or occupied: things happen. To expect your partner to be ready to drop their pants whenever you demand it is childish.

    But I cannot understand, for the life of me, the concept of a sexless relationship. What kind of a neuter as a man do you need to be to tolerate that? Even at my most cringy and desperate in college, a relationship where sex was a blue moon event held no interest. If you are both busy people, there's such a thing as quickies, and you have time for them. If you aren't, then there's a deeper issue that needs addressing: usually lack of sexual attraction, which may (obseity) or may not (the lack of real, active desire to be with the other-it is just inertia) be fixable.

    There are couples who are no longer attracted to each other but stay together to raise their minor children, where one or both partners aren’t able to have sex due to old age, injury or illness, where both are for whatever reason (low sex drive, religious strictures, gay man married to a lesbian, etc.) happy despite it being sexless or near-sexless, and so on.

    But in most or all of those cases I think it’s acceptable if at least one of the partners wants to make it non-monogamous, and unreasonable for the other partner to deny that request.

  259. @J.Ross
    The only way that pairing would exist would be if the guy were a master of personality and manipulation, in which case yes he is getting laid.

    Wrong. You’re assuming both spouses always looked–and smelled– like that. I can think of several married couples, in which both partners were attractive in youth and then one let himself or herself go while the other aged in a normal manner.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    This is like the cat's birthday cake in Pineapple Express. The assumption is reasonable because in the event of the "correction," the very thing AD said is triggered anyway (sexual death is relationship death).
  260. @Jack D

    i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science,
     
    This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study (and does not have political implications - e.g. global warming). That being said, keep in mind that in many cutting edge fields of science, the science is not settled and for every expert that says X you can find another one who will tell you not X.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are "on the spectrum" (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.

    This whole ‘Expert in one thing’ and unable to know anything else is b.s.

    That’s not how the human brain works.

    It’s simply not possible to have a 132+ IQ in one subject, and not notice other things in the world.

    This prof is probably 110 ish IQ at best.

    • Replies: @Bigdicknick
    he's probably extremely smart, but equally brainwashed. Same way a smart person can believe communism can work despite 100% failure rate with millions dead. Some people have mental blocks where they don't subject certain beliefs to appropriate scrutiny.
  261. @Alfa158
    There is something to be said for schadenfreude. When I was reading the Cut article I was enjoying it so much that I wished I had popped up a batch of popcorn to enjoy with the article.
    Seeing an asshat like Bruce Hay self-destructing from sheer stupidity, provided comfort that there is still some iota of justice left, even in ClownWorld.

    There is something to be said for schadenfreude.

    Oh you bet there is. The schadenfreude I got from this story was simply transcendental.

    I hope they have internet in heaven so Tom Wolfe can I enjoy this.

  262. @Kylie
    "Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it."

    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5'9", 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?

    That's not a husband, that's a john who's degraded his wife to the status of a whore.

    Yeah, that’s ridiculous. What I can’t understand about AD here is why he (or any man) would want sex which isn’t freely and eagerly shared.

    How is it a turn-on if the other part has to be compelled, cajoled, required, rented? Doesn’t that imply something pretty unfortunate about your own appeal?

    I’m 100% male and have always been (and will always be, so long as I can stay out of the clutches of Current Year Democrats). But for the life of me I sometimes simply cannot understand how certain other men are constructed.

    Having said all of that, I certainly understand the appeal of D/S sex. Without getting into TMI, I understand it very well. But that’s another matter entirely. I wouldn’t want it with someone who didn’t want it at least as much as I do, preferably more.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Yeah, that’s ridiculous. What I can’t understand about AD here is why he (or any man) would want sex which isn’t freely and eagerly shared.

    How is it a turn-on if the other part has to be compelled, cajoled, required, rented? Doesn’t that imply something pretty unfortunate about your own appeal?
     
    Hammer, you don't seem to understand my point.

    My point is that in a marriage the sex is supposed to be "freely and eagerly" shared.

    The guy precisely should *not* have to be cajoling it out of the gal. If the gal is saying "no" or playing games--"when you take me to Cancun", "when you buy me some jewelry"--then it isn't a marriage. It's a bunch of manipulative b.s. no guy--worth his salt--should put up with. The gal--and guy--signed up for "freely and eagerly" when she married. If she didn't want that--don't marry and keep your grubby hands off his paycheck.

    Usually when a guy isn't getting the sex he wants in a relationship it is because the woman no longer feels respect for the guy ... and the relationship is done.


    There is/was something deeply weird about this Hays character's "relationship" with his "wife". Not party to the details/speculating seems like he lost her respect long, long ago--and they divorced--but she wanted him around for financial reasons and would occasional roll in the hay with him--presumably when she got horny enough to need it--to help keep him around. I have an extremely low opinion of the guy--especially given his IQ--but still he should have wanted/demanded better for himself.
  263. @Spangel
    The whole story is an elaborate punchline about how Bruce hay is the kind of person teaching judgment and decision making at Harvard. Literally this story is the level of judgement and decision making that comes out of the ivory tower establishment.

    But one doesn’t expect them to think to reassess their political views when confronted with the deficiencies in how their judgment assesses reality.

    But it does tell us how far these people are from being able to figure out what the racial achievement gap is really about given that some of them can’t even figure out that they’re being conned when it smacks them in the face like this.

    The whole story is an elaborate punchline about how Bruce hay is the kind of person teaching judgment and decision making at Harvard.

    Oh, God…. I missed that part.

    Regarding the whole story, it is basically about immense potential of hallucination in a soft society. One cannot blame Roman senators in the Caligula-horse case (after all, it was a life or death situation).
    But this…

    How spineless can you get? Delusional? What is human nature?

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Regarding the whole story, it is basically about immense potential of hallucination in a soft society.
     
    Spot on BK.

    (I'm pretty soft myself, but this level of incredible please-punch-me stupidity ... holy cow! Did you learn nothing growing up? Learn nothing banging on through life? What the hell is wrong with these people?)

  264. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    I saw the picture and my first impression that it was a still of John Blutarski on the set of Animal House.

    About 2000 words into this novella TL;DR set in – can anyone help a brother out and give me a precis of what happened

  265. @MikeatMikedotMike
    The novel Derailed written in 2005 contained a very similar story, without the current year tranny angle though.

    I was struck by how much this resembled a real life version of ALL the sexually degenerate secular upper class unhappily married angsty professor fiction out there.

    This is actually it’s own literary genre now… just offhand I can think of entries by writers as lauded as Updike, Houellebecq, Don DeLillo, Thomas Mann, Coetzee (got a nobel prize for one of those!)… and more, although one tries to forget having read most of them…

    It seems like the upper middle brow version of narcissistic chick lit… but written by (and for?) pathetic sad sack guys.

    I didn’t really think of these people as a genuine real life *subculture* but now I’m thinking maybe this actually a *scene* and the professor is just burnishing his scene cred by consenting to this (otherwise) humiliating expose.

  266. @Jack D

    i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science,
     
    This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study (and does not have political implications - e.g. global warming). That being said, keep in mind that in many cutting edge fields of science, the science is not settled and for every expert that says X you can find another one who will tell you not X.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are "on the spectrum" (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are “on the spectrum” (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.

    It seems to me that autism is superfluous to this issue. The average plumber might not know anything about algebra or history, but he sure knows his pipes. That’s the reality of limited time, energy and ability.

  267. @Logan
    What if it actually "was a dark and stormy night?"

    There is a difference between cliche (overuse) and bad writing as such.

    BTW, watched the Maltese Falcon with my teen daughter not too long ago. She complained about the cliches in the story. So I had to explain that MF had invented most of those story lines.

    What if it actually “was a dark and stormy night?”

    There is a difference between cliche (overuse) and bad writing as such.

    I was thinking about that the other day, when a car screeched to a halt outside my window.

  268. @AnotherDad

    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.
    ...
    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything.
     
    Boy you can say that again. Of course, i myself was stupid enough to waste my time reading through most of this when some guy posted a link yesterday. (Fascinating like a car wreck.)

    That he's a sad sack comes through right away with this weird thing where he's living with his wife--but actually his ex-wife and "mostly platonic" ... wtf!

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off ... draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it. PIV at least three times a week--ok you young bucks can go for it more--keeps the bonding going. (One of our big problems seems to be that white men have let white women wander off the reservation ... perhaps because they aren't getting serviced enough?)

    Then he stumble bumbles into some kind of "relationship" with this girl, without ever giving her a good hard, fill-her-up shag... and then believes her you-made-me-pregnant bullshit. Then he has some sort of emotional relationship with the trans-pig!!! Does this guy have even an milligram of testosterone in him?

    And this moron is a Harvard law professor. LOL.

    One thing that's become clear is this modern minoritarian leftist makes people stupid. Reading this guy's interactions with the girl and tranny you get a distinct impression that beyond his stupidity and emotional neediness the guy's politics has rendered him incapable of critical thinking about these "victims of oppression" ... who are actually (obvious to any non-leftist addled brain) nasty, manipulative pieces of shit.

    no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off … draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it.

    Chuuch

  269. @Fredrik
    OT from The Atlantic.

    What if Trump isn't an antisemite after all?


    The comedian Chris Rock performed a classic comedy sketch about how bigotry always accelerates toward the Jews at the end. “That train,” he quipped, “is never late!” But what if that train is late? What if it’s been canceled altogether, at least insofar as it departs from Trump Station? What if the old community of interest between American Jews and other minorities is dissolving, leaving only the weaker tie of a community of values?
     
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/has-trump-abandoned-anti-semitism/594619/

    What if Trump isn’t an antisemite after all?

    Meh. Alan “The Case Against Impeaching Trump” Dershowitz realized Trump was “good for the Jews” much earlier.

  270. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    Well at least it won’t be mistaken for a woman.

  271. Hay seems to have the lazy credulity of someone who was spoiled rotten as a child.

  272. @nebulafox
    I agree that "whenever and wherever" is ridiculous. People get tired or down or occupied: things happen. To expect your partner to be ready to drop their pants whenever you demand it is childish.

    But I cannot understand, for the life of me, the concept of a sexless relationship. What kind of a neuter as a man do you need to be to tolerate that? Even at my most cringy and desperate in college, a relationship where sex was a blue moon event held no interest. If you are both busy people, there's such a thing as quickies, and you have time for them. If you aren't, then there's a deeper issue that needs addressing: usually lack of sexual attraction, which may (obseity) or may not (the lack of real, active desire to be with the other-it is just inertia) be fixable.

    They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

  273. @Logan
    From the linked article:

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21 trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.

    Let's assume this is correct. They claim there are 1.4M transpeople in America. Which I kind of doubt.

    But assuming both numbers are accurate, this would be a rate of about 1.5 per 100k, considerably lower than the average for all Americans.

    Trans-murders: It’s a BLACK thing!!

    Example: In 2015, the 23 murdered “transwomen” (“male” to “female”) included 15 blacks (65%), 4 Latinas, 2 whites, and 2 unidentified.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people#United_States_2

    “Confronting Black men’s roles in the murders of Black transgender women may be the only way to save our lives.”

    “The lives of both cisgender and transgender Black women have come under serious danger…. The unfortunate truth is that the violence perpetrated typically comes from the hands of Black men who are, according to the numbers, our most looming threat.

    The tragic fact here is that Black trans, as well as gender non-conforming, women are being killed in the United States by cis Black men to such a degree that it is nearly the worst emergency for trans women on the planet. America has the highest number of trans murders in the world with the exception of just two countries: Brazil and Mexico.

    The murders of Black trans women by Black men since 2016 have helped drive the most violent period for LGBT+ people on record.”

    https://thegrio.com/2019/06/24/confronting-black-mens-roles-in-the-murder-of-black-transgender-women/

    • Replies: @Anonymousse
    When things are dying suddenly it’s generally a good bet young black males are around.

    I don’t think they have any special animus toward transvestites, as Colin Flaherty extensively documented they are also known to kill asians, regular homosexuals, dogs, other blacks, the elderly, illegals, women, taxi drivers, shop employees, police officers and turtles.

    Colin of course is banned from everything for noticing this thing everyone already knows.

  274. Jokes aside, and yes, the guy is super gullible, and given that he’s a law professor nobody here is going to have any sympathy for him… but there’s plenty of spergy engineers and coders out there who get taken for a ride by women and I think most here would have more sympathy for them. The left half of the bell curve in terms of game (who often have other positive qualities in other areas of life) among men have nobody to look out for them and have ‘dating advice’ from feminists (or people afraid of feminists) that just leads them into more trouble.

    Maybe *this particular* Harvard douche got what he deserved, but there’s a lot of clueless guys out there who don’t. The lack of good advice for men is a real problem. There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    >They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

    That's why I'm getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    >There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    Oh, yes... this I know. Some also don't take into account that most of these guys just don't have the goal of sleeping with hundreds of women. Most want a stable girlfriend more than anything else, TBH. It's more functional than anything: if you aren't constantly sexually frustrated, you can focus on your interests way more.

    Still, it isn't hard to note that between the redpill crowd and the feminists/white knights, one typically has a fair amount of people who genuinely want to see you succeed and works you toward what you want, and the other could not care less. It's not hard to figure out which one you are better off listening to, even if you are on the spectrum.

    , @JackOH
    " . . . but there’s plenty of spergy engineers and coders out there who get taken for a ride by women . . .".

    SFG, I recall reading an excerpt from a bio of a technically trained guy whose future wife took the lead in dating and proposing marriage. I guess they were happy, and he was successful.

    I guess my game when younger was crap, but even when just being only friendly, I'd draw some truly weird-shit responses from some women. Following minor surgery, I was taken to the hospital exit. After rising from the wheelchair, and still a bit woozy, I touched the escort nurse, who was about my age, lightly on her back a few times and expressed my thanks for the hospital's good treatment of me. She started, "Hey, hey". I was floored. (This was in the 1990s, and we were both in our 40s.)

    Sounds laughable, but if your game is crap to begin with, this sort of stuff can discombobulate you.
    , @guest
    Obviously men are taken in by women. But in this particular case, one of them wasn't even a woman. He didn't even get an orgasm out of the deal.

    I realize confidence tricksters say marks "beg for it," but it's almost as if instead of profiting off the relationships his upside was being taken advantage of. And how do you not exploit that?

    Every time he's confronted with betrayal or manipulation, it's all "but they're mentally unwell!" Well, yeah. That's why they're trying to steal your house.

  275. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    This despite knowing

    1. She was sharing a house with a penis-having tranny who had fathered her two previous kids and who was listed as the father on the new baby’s birth certificate.
    2. She was also sharing the house with her unambiguously male ex-boyfriend.
     
    I think it says elsewhere that his live-in ex-wife tried to push the issue, but he felt that questioning Pia-Maria's version of events by demanding a paternity test would invalidate her identity as a Lesbian (who only had three pregnancies) by suggesting that she slept with men (besides him and the father(s) of her other kids).

    Well, she was sleeping with a “woman” who was the – ummmm, parent? – of her children… so maybe that really does make her a lesbian?

  276. @CCZ
    Trans-murders: It's a BLACK thing!!

    Example: In 2015, the 23 murdered “transwomen” (“male” to “female”) included 15 blacks (65%), 4 Latinas, 2 whites, and 2 unidentified.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_unlawfully_killed_transgender_people#United_States_2

    “Confronting Black men’s roles in the murders of Black transgender women may be the only way to save our lives.”

    “The lives of both cisgender and transgender Black women have come under serious danger.... The unfortunate truth is that the violence perpetrated typically comes from the hands of Black men who are, according to the numbers, our most looming threat.

    The tragic fact here is that Black trans, as well as gender non-conforming, women are being killed in the United States by cis Black men to such a degree that it is nearly the worst emergency for trans women on the planet. America has the highest number of trans murders in the world with the exception of just two countries: Brazil and Mexico.

    The murders of Black trans women by Black men since 2016 have helped drive the most violent period for LGBT+ people on record.”

    https://thegrio.com/2019/06/24/confronting-black-mens-roles-in-the-murder-of-black-transgender-women/

    When things are dying suddenly it’s generally a good bet young black males are around.

    I don’t think they have any special animus toward transvestites, as Colin Flaherty extensively documented they are also known to kill asians, regular homosexuals, dogs, other blacks, the elderly, illegals, women, taxi drivers, shop employees, police officers and turtles.

    Colin of course is banned from everything for noticing this thing everyone already knows.

    • Replies: @95Theses
    Three cheers for the legendary Colin Flaherty! We owe an inconsiderable debt to that man for his courage and tenacity in exposing The Greatest Lie of Our Generation: The Myth of Black Victimization.

    Colin presents so great a threat to The Lie that Amazon felt it necessary to censor his latest book, Don't Make The Black Kids Angry!

    ... Although Barnes & Noble still carry it.

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dont-make-the-black-kids-angry-mr-colin-flaherty/1121279324?ean=9781508585022

  277. As they say: it couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy.

    Mischa Haider (“Trans researcher, mother, writer, and activist”) is the author of works with scintillating titles like “Never Trump, And Never Again” (co-authored by Hay) — “Toward Comprehensive Protection for Trans Rights” (ditto)– “I Blame Hate” — etc etc blah blah.

    …a man who teaches a Harvard Law class on “Judgment and Decision-Making,” which analyzes those elements of human nature that allow us to delude ourselves and make terrible decisions. “Of course, now I feel slightly ridiculous teaching it,” Hay told me, “given how easily I let myself be taken advantage of.”

    Yeah, well, think about how students will now feel about taking it from you.

    I’ll give him some credit for having the nerve to contemplate going back up in front of a class — or even showing his face on campus again.

  278. Anon[232] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s so much Harvard in this story. The main genius is a Havard Law School prof. The trans activist who leaves the US for endless months is a grad student at the School of Public Health (physics my ass, his mentor studies “digital phenotypes” which apparently are given away by tracking cell phones). There’s also a genius from the Medical School, who thinks he impregnated a woman, because they had sex 2 years before the birth of his alleged son. All three are on mind-altering pills. I am vomit.

  279. When I was a kid, apparently hundreds of kids were being maimed by errant blasting caps – I remember seeing countless PSAs on television warning me “DON’T TOUCH IT!”. From all the commercials, I expected to find deadly hyper-sensitive explosive blasting caps in every vacant lot and trash heap in my neighborhood. To my dismay (I was a boy and it was the ‘60s), I never saw one in my entire childhood. Here’s Willie Mays warning kids about the deadly blasting cap (“Call the PO’lice.”)

    Now I’m a much older man completing a Ph.D at a large and world-renowned private university. In my work and studies, I come across a fair amount of female SJWs, assorted LG[BLT]s, and a handful of Trannies of various types in various stages. I regard these (and to a certain extent, ALL female students and colleagues) with the same self-preserving caution Willie recommended concerning blasting caps. Carelessly handling any of the above types can blow up in your face and end your academic and professional career, or worse.

    So my unspoken policy is to have no extra-curricular interactions with the afore-mentioned categories. No beers after class, no personal conversation – I just maintain a polite and professional distance, physically and emotionally. It’s a shame that it has come to this, because making personal connections are a large part of the benefit of higher education. I really don’t know what these young purple hairs, queers, and sexually confused oddities think they are accomplishing by antagonizing and alienating white male students and faculty. Maybe they are depending on the sorority of the Woke for future professional and academic connections. I prefer to spend my time associating with the older, whiter, male-r faculty – we all get along just fine, you know, like normal people, almost.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    So my unspoken policy is to have no extra-curricular interactions with the afore-mentioned categories. No beers after class, no personal conversation – I just maintain a polite and professional distance, physically and emotionally. It’s a shame that it has come to this, because making personal connections are a large part of the benefit of higher education.

     

    It seems a wise policy. And, pragmatically speaking, personal connections with that crowd is never an advantage for you.
    , @AnotherDad

    So my unspoken policy is to have no extra-curricular interactions with the afore-mentioned categories. No beers after class, no personal conversation – I just maintain a polite and professional distance, physically and emotionally.
     
    American women have been so steeped in the minoritarian narrative of "oppression" they seem to have lost all reason. This male response to #MeToo is entirely predictable, but women lack even the one step reasoning to predict it.

    I'm a guy, i'm not claiming navigating life as a girl is easy. But if you're sporting a couple X chromosomes, then that's you job, so just do it directly:

    If you've been raped, go to the police.

    If a guy gives you an undesired grope--smack him.

    If a guy makes an undesired request for a date, or other romance--turn him down politely and sympathetically--it's actually a compliment to your feminity--but explicitly.

    It's obvious to me, that a lot of women do not deal male romantic interest explicitly because they want to milk it to get favors, special treatment etc. Sorry. You don't have that have-my-cake-and-eat-it-too privilege. If you want males--or a male--to stop X, Y, Z, then be clear and stop it.

    ~~

    The #MeToo path we're on, fewer women will find male mentors, fewer women will be "in the loop" with male colleagues, fewer women will get asked out--especially by the guy they want and fewer women will get married and fewer will have the life and the babies they wanted.

    Which perhaps was the point of those pushing it.
  280. @SFG
    Jokes aside, and yes, the guy is super gullible, and given that he's a law professor nobody here is going to have any sympathy for him... but there's plenty of spergy engineers and coders out there who get taken for a ride by women and I think most here would have more sympathy for them. The left half of the bell curve in terms of game (who often have other positive qualities in other areas of life) among men have nobody to look out for them and have 'dating advice' from feminists (or people afraid of feminists) that just leads them into more trouble.

    Maybe *this particular* Harvard douche got what he deserved, but there's a lot of clueless guys out there who don't. The lack of good advice for men is a real problem. There's redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don't know what they're doing.

    >They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    >There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    Oh, yes… this I know. Some also don’t take into account that most of these guys just don’t have the goal of sleeping with hundreds of women. Most want a stable girlfriend more than anything else, TBH. It’s more functional than anything: if you aren’t constantly sexually frustrated, you can focus on your interests way more.

    Still, it isn’t hard to note that between the redpill crowd and the feminists/white knights, one typically has a fair amount of people who genuinely want to see you succeed and works you toward what you want, and the other could not care less. It’s not hard to figure out which one you are better off listening to, even if you are on the spectrum.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I absolutely, 100% agree that the redpill crowd is like 50% on your side and 50% interested in mental masturbation, whereas the feminist/white knight crowd is 33% interested in 'saving the poor womenz', 33% interested in virtue-signalling, and 34% genuinely hating men. (Change those numbers as you see fit--they are very rough estimates.)

    The thing is, #MeToo has significantly increased the risk of a failed pass, and so being too aggressive is a lot riskier than it used to be. The guys have to know the right sites for 'game for betas' (and I couldn't even tell you which ones anymore), and they have to have the humility to read those instead of the 'game for alphas' sites, which is a bitter pill to swallow indeed.

    Heck, I should have probably gone for one of the 'Christian game' sites rather than Heartiste. (Heartiste and Roissy before him were more entertaining, I have to admit.)
    , @Jim Don Bob
    A pre-nup is worthless. She still gets half your stuff.
    , @Moses

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.
     
    Good idea. You gotta be careful and do it right though:
    - Execute the pre-nup at least several months before the wedding date. Makes it harder for her to claim duress later.
    - Make sure she has her own counsel separate from yours review the document. Give her money to pay for it if necessary. If she doesn't have counsel she can claim she didn't understand it.
    - Add into the pre-nup that both parties had their own counsel and understand full contents. List counsel names, addresses and contact info.

    I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. Get your own counsel. Avoid female SJW lawyers (I talked to one who seemed more interested in advancing my finacee's interests over my own, didn't hire her obviously).
    , @Reg Cæsar

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.
     
    Here's a good one:


    http://www.ctsbooks.org/filedepository/january%202016%20covers/thumbnails/do917%20catechism%20of%20the%20catholic%20church%20-%20softback%20(1)_370_296_160208034042.jpg
    , @Pericles

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

     

    The devil is in the details, so do have a look at this too: http://www.realworlddivorce.com/
    , @AnotherDad

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.
     
    The problem is family courts shred pre-nups like they are getting ready for a ticker-tape parade.

    American women are the most special and cossetted creatures in the history of the universe. You--white boy!--on the other hand are a serf, who exists to work and pay. (Basically when it comes to divorce, suddenly American women are no longer liberated women but all dutiful long-suffering 1950s housewives, with their virginity now "ruined". They don't have to do anything for you, but you must keep paying and paying and paying.)

    As i've pointed out all the faggy and tranny stuff actually provides a potential path out.

    The key to this whole mess is child custody. If we can get completely "gender-neutral" 50-50 child custody as the norm--each "partner" having the kids half the time, and neither paying the other a dime, then American marriages rebalance and get a lot more healthy.
  281. Stupid question: why would a drug company sell an anti-depressant whose side effect for men is not climaxing during intercourse? I know $$$ is the answer but seriously, I would assume that wouldn’t help your mental state. Also, any man reading the side-effects might pass on buying your product.

    Other than that I LOL’d.

    • Replies: @guest
    Apparently people do buy them. Possibly they're not very sexually motivated anyway. Possibly they think there's a fate worse than no orgasms .
  282. , I saw this on Ross Douthat’s Twitter this morning–did he beat you to the scoop, or did he find this here?

    Speaking of which, both Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham ripped off your “NYT buries the lede again” post, without attribution.

  283. When Fat Tony in the Black Robes comes back from the grave to take vengeance on your sorry meretricious ass you’d best believe he’s not going to be gentle about it.

  284. Hay’s eldest son will likely grow to have no respect for his father if not out right hate him.

    They’ve replaced worship of God with worship of homos, trannies, dusky completed or mentally unstable people. The weirder the person, the more Hays wants to prostrate himself before them.

  285. @Kylie
    "Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it."

    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5'9", 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?

    That's not a husband, that's a john who's degraded his wife to the status of a whore.

    “Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it.”

    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5’9″, 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?

    Snorlax basically covered the territory for me. Obviously my statement doesn’t cover every exact–hey the kid needs to go tot he hospital–case. But it’s the gist of it.

    You morbidly obese case:

    I find a lot of Americans to be physically unpleasant now. People i wouldn’t want to have sex with then even if i loved them. I think a lot of Americans are walking insults to their spouses. But that’s me. If it’s the case for your hypothetical woman–fine. But then this morbidly obese case should have been dealt with before he was mordibly obese–it didn’t happen in one night. And if he does not reform and make himself physically palatable to his wife … then yes she can go on a sex strike. But at that point–the marriage is over. It’s basically an announcement by the wife that he has failed the basics. If the guy really values the marriage, he can turn it around … but if he wanted to he would have done it already.

    At root–my point–a healthy marriage requires a healthy sex life. And guys in particular–but a lot of women too–do not sign up to marriage to be put off. If that even starts to occur it means the woman no longer respects the guy and that is absolute death to the marriage. A guy can not beg–that loses even more respect. He must demand that his needs are met, and if she is unwilling than obviously he has lost her respect, her desire for him as a husband. It’s done.

    Sex is simply not an optional part of marriage. And not one–either partner–should be negoitiating for. For guys–she starts to jack you around;l ay down the law, or end it.

    • Replies: @SFG
    I agree, but then she can always divorce him, and take half his stuff.
    , @FPD72
    The Apostle Paul offered similar counsel:

    each man should have relations with his own wife and each woman with her own husband. A husband should give to his wife her sexual rights, and likewise a wife to her husband. It is not the wife who has the rights to her own body, but the husband. In the same way, it is not the husband who has the rights to his own body, but the wife. Do not deprive each other, except by mutual agreement for a specified time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then resume your relationship,
  286. @Mr McKenna

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Hmm. How many non-trans people were killed that year?
    And are we including motor-vehicle deaths?

    A time or two I’ve looked at these lists that trans groups publish to highlight the violence against trans people. It’s rare to find a case where the person was killed because they were trans. They are often killed because of being involved in drugs, prostitution or other crime (like most people who are murdered). I ran across at least one case on such a list, where, ironically, the person was killed by another trans person.

  287. anonymous[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anona

    She just did the PhD. The brilliancy is still in the future … or not.
     
    Her Ph.D. is in applied physics, which is a fall-back when you wash out of hard physics. It's usually the equivalent of some sort of engineering degree -- still real STEM, but not physics. I've seen cases where a physics professor of color has an undergraduate B.S. in physics, and a Ph.D. in physics education, issued by the education department. That's really a fall-back! I've even seen one of those from Stanford where the physics department issued a physics degree to a PoC on the topic of teaching physics to minority populations. What a prostitution of the Stanford brand, laundering a grievance studies degree through the physics department.

    Last year, there were two women with PhDs in physics education who were bitching about not being on a tenure track. This is the crap that’s going on in STEM these days.

  288. @Brutusale
    You have to remember that, in Cambridge, Marx and Lenin would be called "centrists".

    They don’t call or didn’t call Harvard “Moscow on the Charles” for nothing, “Pyongyang on the Charles” doesn’t quite have the same ring to it.

  289. @Kylie
    Wrong. You're assuming both spouses always looked--and smelled-- like that. I can think of several married couples, in which both partners were attractive in youth and then one let himself or herself go while the other aged in a normal manner.

    This is like the cat’s birthday cake in Pineapple Express. The assumption is reasonable because in the event of the “correction,” the very thing AD said is triggered anyway (sexual death is relationship death).

  290. @RobUK
    This is a man utterly desperate to debase himself in any way possible, at every opportunity.

    …desperate to debase himself

    Such have always been with us, but historically it was largely behind closed doors.

    Now they get the front page, and a place on the podium with our politicians.

  291. @AnotherDad

    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.
    ...
    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything.
     
    Boy you can say that again. Of course, i myself was stupid enough to waste my time reading through most of this when some guy posted a link yesterday. (Fascinating like a car wreck.)

    That he's a sad sack comes through right away with this weird thing where he's living with his wife--but actually his ex-wife and "mostly platonic" ... wtf!

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off ... draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it. PIV at least three times a week--ok you young bucks can go for it more--keeps the bonding going. (One of our big problems seems to be that white men have let white women wander off the reservation ... perhaps because they aren't getting serviced enough?)

    Then he stumble bumbles into some kind of "relationship" with this girl, without ever giving her a good hard, fill-her-up shag... and then believes her you-made-me-pregnant bullshit. Then he has some sort of emotional relationship with the trans-pig!!! Does this guy have even an milligram of testosterone in him?

    And this moron is a Harvard law professor. LOL.

    One thing that's become clear is this modern minoritarian leftist makes people stupid. Reading this guy's interactions with the girl and tranny you get a distinct impression that beyond his stupidity and emotional neediness the guy's politics has rendered him incapable of critical thinking about these "victims of oppression" ... who are actually (obvious to any non-leftist addled brain) nasty, manipulative pieces of shit.

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it.

    LOL. That’s fucking stupid.

  292. Basically, someone went nuts and declared that he was trapped in the wrong body. There are those who encouraged this delusional thinking and the guy became a gal and expected henceforth his life would be kittens and rainbows. He then took a walk on the wild side.
    Society around him looked at the reality and refused to encourage his delusional fantasy.

    And Scalia is at fault?

    When I saw “Bruce Hay is a Harvard Law School Professor.” and Salon.com as the article’s source, I knew we were going for a ride on the crazy train. Only thing unknown was the particular destination.

  293. @Bill P
    Hay calls himself a "naive young fool" at age 53? This kind of delusional thinking is what gets you in bed with a French whore with a Pakistani tranny pimp.

    For clarity's sake, I think this story can be abbreviated thusly:

    Sultry Judeo-French hooker: "Ah seenk yü are verry, verry attractif"

    Esteemed Harvard Professor: "You don't say? I find we are in agreement!"

    Hooker: "Ah wass married to a wooman and haf several cheeldren wiss a Pakeestani transsexuale. Do yü want to haf sex wiss me?"

    Esteemed Harvard Professor: "Why not? What could possibly go wrong?"

    Well done, sir.

  294. @snorlax
    Is "it was a dark and stormy night" actually bad prose, or is it more of a "Seinfeld is unfunny" / "Beatles sound generic" / "Halloween is a formulaic slasher" thing? More the second, I think.

    “It was a dark and stormy night” is catchy, but that’s just the beginning of the sentence. In full it goes:

    It was a dark and stormy night; the rain fell in torrents–except at occasional intervals, when it was
    checked by a violent gust of wind which swept up the streets (for it is in London that our scene lies),
    rattling along the housetops, and fiercely agitating the scanty flame of the lamps that struggled
    against the darkness.

    In the very least, this style of prose is no longer in fashion.

  295. @guest
    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.

    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.

    I’ve never experienced or heard of such a thing.

    • Replies: @guest
    I envy you.
    , @Jack D
    I think what he was trying to say was that the pre-ejaculate fluid can theoretically contain sperm so that it may be possible for a female to become pregnant even though there has been no male ejaculation. However, this is rare and unlikely. In this age of DNA testing, we don't have to speculate about whether such unlikely events have happened.
    , @J.Ross
    Exhaustion, depression, drugs and prior activity can bring this about. Prematurity or ruination are a sort of variant. Happily for modern Daoists and those concerned with energy, the reverse is also possible: euphoria and muscle spasms while retaining one's precious bodily fluids.
    , @Bill P
    Well, it involves a probe shoved up one's anus that delivers an electric shock to the prostate. It's called an electronic ejaculator, and is commonly used on livestock to obtain sperm for the international semen market.

    I don't know one way or the other, but it wouldn't surprise me if certain Harvard faculty members use it on themselves from time to time.
    , @FPD72
    It’s called ejaculatory anhedonia, which could be described in layman’s terms as squirting without feelings of pleasure. Several causes have been postulated but none have been proven.
  296. @ben tillman

    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.
     
    I've never experienced or heard of such a thing.

    I envy you.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    I have my own problems, I assure you.
  297. @ben tillman

    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.
     
    I've never experienced or heard of such a thing.

    I think what he was trying to say was that the pre-ejaculate fluid can theoretically contain sperm so that it may be possible for a female to become pregnant even though there has been no male ejaculation. However, this is rare and unlikely. In this age of DNA testing, we don’t have to speculate about whether such unlikely events have happened.

  298. @nebulafox
    Back in the 2000s, my peers and I did/said stuff as boys that would earn us a quick ticket to the social media auto-da-fe today.

    ("Smear the Queer"... I didn't even know what a "queer" was in elementary school! I just liked running around and tackling.)

    I remember in high school in the ‘90s if a guy didn’t like something it was “gay”. If something was weird it was “faggy”.

    By the standards of the Current Year about every guy who was an adolescent in the ‘90s should be in an internment camp.

  299. Hay had never encountered anyone like them, “nearly perfect people” who were “bright and kind and sweet to their children and socially conscious,” and whose family composed a striking, distinctly modern portrait: Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist, the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”) birthed by the sultry, soft-spoken French daughter of a major Jewish American songwriter (she’s called “Sumi”).

    Keeping in mind Bruce Hays own teaching, and specifically to social justice types, they want to believe. This seems like a potential gold mine for a budding con artists. Just sayin.

    • Agree: GermanReader2
  300. SFG says:
    @nebulafox
    >They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

    That's why I'm getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    >There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    Oh, yes... this I know. Some also don't take into account that most of these guys just don't have the goal of sleeping with hundreds of women. Most want a stable girlfriend more than anything else, TBH. It's more functional than anything: if you aren't constantly sexually frustrated, you can focus on your interests way more.

    Still, it isn't hard to note that between the redpill crowd and the feminists/white knights, one typically has a fair amount of people who genuinely want to see you succeed and works you toward what you want, and the other could not care less. It's not hard to figure out which one you are better off listening to, even if you are on the spectrum.

    I absolutely, 100% agree that the redpill crowd is like 50% on your side and 50% interested in mental masturbation, whereas the feminist/white knight crowd is 33% interested in ‘saving the poor womenz’, 33% interested in virtue-signalling, and 34% genuinely hating men. (Change those numbers as you see fit–they are very rough estimates.)

    The thing is, #MeToo has significantly increased the risk of a failed pass, and so being too aggressive is a lot riskier than it used to be. The guys have to know the right sites for ‘game for betas’ (and I couldn’t even tell you which ones anymore), and they have to have the humility to read those instead of the ‘game for alphas’ sites, which is a bitter pill to swallow indeed.

    Heck, I should have probably gone for one of the ‘Christian game’ sites rather than Heartiste. (Heartiste and Roissy before him were more entertaining, I have to admit.)

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    This is exactly wrong. The feminists prey on the weak AFCs, not men who have a decent sense of themselves. Most of the benefit of Roissy was learning about anti-game and eliminating it.

    The sources you’re recommending are rife with it.
  301. @AnotherDad


    “Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it.”
     
    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5’9″, 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?
     
    Snorlax basically covered the territory for me. Obviously my statement doesn't cover every exact--hey the kid needs to go tot he hospital--case. But it's the gist of it.

    You morbidly obese case:

    I find a lot of Americans to be physically unpleasant now. People i wouldn't want to have sex with then even if i loved them. I think a lot of Americans are walking insults to their spouses. But that's me. If it's the case for your hypothetical woman--fine. But then this morbidly obese case should have been dealt with before he was mordibly obese--it didn't happen in one night. And if he does not reform and make himself physically palatable to his wife ... then yes she can go on a sex strike. But at that point--the marriage is over. It's basically an announcement by the wife that he has failed the basics. If the guy really values the marriage, he can turn it around ... but if he wanted to he would have done it already.

    At root--my point--a healthy marriage requires a healthy sex life. And guys in particular--but a lot of women too--do not sign up to marriage to be put off. If that even starts to occur it means the woman no longer respects the guy and that is absolute death to the marriage. A guy can not beg--that loses even more respect. He must demand that his needs are met, and if she is unwilling than obviously he has lost her respect, her desire for him as a husband. It's done.

    Sex is simply not an optional part of marriage. And not one--either partner--should be negoitiating for. For guys--she starts to jack you around;l ay down the law, or end it.

    I agree, but then she can always divorce him, and take half his stuff.

  302. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist"

    What Indian/Pakistani is called "Mischa Haider"? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.


    More research needed.

    Mischa or Misha is the common Russian nickname for Mikhail so it would translate as “Mike” in English. Given that in Western European languages the “-sha” ending would be more of a feminine sound the name is sometimes given to girls. So I guess it’s kind of perfect for a trannie although I expect that not many would choose a sexually ambiguous name.

  303. @Genrick Yagoda
    That is the most unbelievable article I have ever read. Thanks for posting that.

    Would anyone have believed even 30 years ago that such a surreal series of events involving a Harvard professor would occur? If they made a movie of this, no one would see it, since it would be too far fetched.

    Mischa or Misha is the common Russian nickname for Mikhail so it would translate as “Mike” in English. Given that in Western European languages the “-sha” ending would be more of a feminine sound the name is sometimes given to girls. So I guess it’s kind of perfect for a trannie although I expect that not many would choose a sexually ambiguous name.

  304. @Reg Cæsar
    A surprising note from Mia-Paria Pia-Maria Maria-Pia's father's Wikipedia bio, not about Mort but about his partner-- business partner, business partner!-- Doc Pomus:

    Pomus often drew on life events which inspired his creativity. It was after a break-up with his girlfriend that Pomus, who had been driving in his car, was struck in awe by the sounds of the car horns blaring amidst his thoughts.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mort_Shuman
     

    Pomus was able to drive? In 1963? Cars were big then.


    https://blackcracker.fm/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/Doc-Pomus.jpg

    (Does Maria-Pia still have her, um, pia?)


    From the Mort Shuman-Doc Pomus catalogue:


    Wrong for Each Other

    You go on your way
    I'll go on mine
    Please don't you call me
    Or drop me a line
    I'll be better off now
    With somebody new
    And you should find someone
    More suited to you
    Cause we're wrong for each other
    Wrong for each other
    Let's fight another round
    I couldn't explain it
    I can't tell you why
    I've got such a talent
    For making you cry
    And one day you'll thank me
    For saying so long
    For making an end to
    A love…

     

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-kjLYN8HU

    It’s possible that Doc Pomus was still driving a specially fitted car in the early 1960s, when he was in his 30s. Post-polio syndrome sets in later in life. He looks to be over 50 in that photograph.

  305. @Genrick Yagoda
    That is the most unbelievable article I have ever read. Thanks for posting that.

    Would anyone have believed even 30 years ago that such a surreal series of events involving a Harvard professor would occur? If they made a movie of this, no one would see it, since it would be too far fetched.

    A Coen Brothers movie with William H. Macy as Bruce Hay.

    • Replies: @Lugash
    Already done, but by David Mamet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleanna_(film)
  306. @The Wild Geese Howard
    My favorite part is when he gave them his device passwords.

    That's going full retard.

    Never go full retard.

  307. @guest
    I only know that fella as writer of several Drifters tunes, during the era when they were produced by Leiber and Stoller. Some theorize Phil Spector worked on ones like This Magic Moment and Save the Last Dance considering the recordings have a Spectorish sound.

    I prefer Some Kind of Wonderful in the Drifter catalogue, but that one was written by Goffin and King.

    Doc Pomus was huge, in both senses of the word. His collaborations with Shuman, as well as Leiber and Stoller, resulted in huge hits for Elvis Presley. He wrote Ray Charles’ Lonely Avenue. He easily makes any list of the top five songwriters of popular American music.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Dr. John (the night tripper) got pretty heavy too, as I recall. I would guess musicians have a hard time not indulging.
  308. @Logan
    From the linked article:

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21 trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.

    Let's assume this is correct. They claim there are 1.4M transpeople in America. Which I kind of doubt.

    But assuming both numbers are accurate, this would be a rate of about 1.5 per 100k, considerably lower than the average for all Americans.

    I read somewhere, and am too lazy to look it up, that the Social Security Administration, which has data on at least 300 million people, has about 30,00o who have changed their sex.

    That is 1 in 10,000.

    So, first we rearranged our country for the 13% of the population that is black.

    Next we rearranged our country for the half of the population that is female.

    Then we rearranged our country for the 2-4% of the population that is homo.

    Finally we rearranged our country for the 0.01% of the population that is trannie.

    The result is that everything bad in this country is the fault of white men.

    Any questions?

  309. @PiltdownMan
    Doc Pomus was huge, in both senses of the word. His collaborations with Shuman, as well as Leiber and Stoller, resulted in huge hits for Elvis Presley. He wrote Ray Charles' Lonely Avenue. He easily makes any list of the top five songwriters of popular American music.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dr3Chk8Cg8s

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di2ThVZeGV4

    https://youtu.be/6f4m6Ku2jyk

    https://youtu.be/gOoKzw3JSCM

    Dr. John (the night tripper) got pretty heavy too, as I recall. I would guess musicians have a hard time not indulging.

  310. @nebulafox
    >They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

    That's why I'm getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    >There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    Oh, yes... this I know. Some also don't take into account that most of these guys just don't have the goal of sleeping with hundreds of women. Most want a stable girlfriend more than anything else, TBH. It's more functional than anything: if you aren't constantly sexually frustrated, you can focus on your interests way more.

    Still, it isn't hard to note that between the redpill crowd and the feminists/white knights, one typically has a fair amount of people who genuinely want to see you succeed and works you toward what you want, and the other could not care less. It's not hard to figure out which one you are better off listening to, even if you are on the spectrum.

    A pre-nup is worthless. She still gets half your stuff.

  311. Anon[234] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.
     
    Do you know what the nutty roommate told the cops?

    It may be the case in CA that in any "domestic" they're required to arrest anyone who is accused of a crime.

    The roommate may have falsely claimed to have been struck by your daughter.

    In any event, you may want to consult with local counsel in order to determine whether the University breached any duties to your daughter which have led to her injuries. Most specifically, has the University received past reports of aggressive behavior regarding the roommate, and what was its response?

    Yes, many jurisdictions have domestic violence laws that tie the cops’ hands, but that doesn’t seem to be the case here because if the relationship had fallen within the DV definition, at least the roommate would have been arrested.

    As it happens a college student relative of mine was arrested for DV when she called the cops on her ex-boyfriend who had snuck into her dorm and pushed his way past her roommate into her room. There was drama before the cops arrived, and the ex got a tiny scratch on his face, enough to trigger a zero tolerance arrest of my relative, who had to show up in court because of local DV “must file” laws. The stalker was not arrested.

    This ended up costing a fortune since civil and criminal attorneys had to be engaged. The college was very unsympathetic (after all an arrest had been made), and my relative ended up withdrawing from the college. The stalker was from an URM with different cultural traditions, and of course everyone had warned the girl, but kids have to learn on their own I guess. She broke up with him after a very weird visit to his family, who seemed to assume that they were already engaged. On the bright side, she went with a normal, well-adjusted white guy for her next boyfriend.

    I guess the moral of the story is, if you show visible injuries but the other party doesn’t, always lie to the cops and claim a brief romantic relationship. That’ll get the other party arrested, upon which nobody wants to listen to him and he’s hosed.

  312. @Jack D

    i’ll never believe or trust anything a harvard professor says ever again, even about science,
     
    This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study (and does not have political implications - e.g. global warming). That being said, keep in mind that in many cutting edge fields of science, the science is not settled and for every expert that says X you can find another one who will tell you not X.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence. Many professors are "on the spectrum" (of autism). They are able to hyperfocus and learn everything there is to learn about their little chosen niche, but when it comes to everything else, they might as well be children. They have put all of their energy into becoming expert about one thing and so they know nothing about other things.

    The fact that these folks are such renowned experts in their chosen field and the fact that they are complete idiots when it comes to everything else is not a coincidence.

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb, the blunt-talking mathematician, calls these people “IYIs” or “Intellectuals Yet Idiots.”

    Funny man, that Taleb.

    He wrote an entertaining essay about it: https://medium.com/incerto/the-intellectual-yet-idiot-13211e2d0577

  313. Made me think of Nabokov’s Laughter in the Dark.

  314. @guest
    There's an annual jokey thing called the Bulwer-Lytton* Fiction Contest, in which entrants submit fake first sentences to a pretend-worst novel in the world. A cousin contest, called the Little Lytton, has a "found" category, wherein you submit a sentence published by someone else that would be hilarious if it were the first sentence to a novel. Mr. Hay has produced a gem in his subheadline:

    "From our leather chairs, we never saw the lives his rulings gutted."

    I would absolutely hate to read that story.

    By the way, I contemplate the misery wrought upon others by decisions all the time. But not from a leather chair, because I don't own one. So I'm all good, I guess. But

    *After the author of Paul Clifford, which famously opens "It was a dark and stormy night..." Also known for various coinages, for instance "the pen is mightier than the sword."

    In addition to the terrible writing it’s a great example of how unhinged leftists are. The job of the judiciary is to judge what the law is, not to create the most optimal laws for society. the whole implication of the article is that scalia failed by not essentially inventing new more optimal laws. That is just an absolutely insane idea and completely contrary to separation of powers. The fact that people like this get the absolute most primo law jobs is nuts.

  315. Anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    this guy is just a stupid @$$hole.
    ...
    not anymore. now i realize they’re just morons. leftist morons, so they can get these jobs and positions. but morons. stupid idiots. they know &$%# about anything.
     
    Boy you can say that again. Of course, i myself was stupid enough to waste my time reading through most of this when some guy posted a link yesterday. (Fascinating like a car wreck.)

    That he's a sad sack comes through right away with this weird thing where he's living with his wife--but actually his ex-wife and "mostly platonic" ... wtf!

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off ... draw the line in the sand, and she either submits and thereafter understands her role or end it. PIV at least three times a week--ok you young bucks can go for it more--keeps the bonding going. (One of our big problems seems to be that white men have let white women wander off the reservation ... perhaps because they aren't getting serviced enough?)

    Then he stumble bumbles into some kind of "relationship" with this girl, without ever giving her a good hard, fill-her-up shag... and then believes her you-made-me-pregnant bullshit. Then he has some sort of emotional relationship with the trans-pig!!! Does this guy have even an milligram of testosterone in him?

    And this moron is a Harvard law professor. LOL.

    One thing that's become clear is this modern minoritarian leftist makes people stupid. Reading this guy's interactions with the girl and tranny you get a distinct impression that beyond his stupidity and emotional neediness the guy's politics has rendered him incapable of critical thinking about these "victims of oppression" ... who are actually (obvious to any non-leftist addled brain) nasty, manipulative pieces of shit.

    I’m not always the most “street smart” guy around, but if something like this

    When he directed her to another part of the store, she changed the subject. “By the way, you’re very attractive,” he remembers her saying.

    happened to me my internal “Scam Alarm” would be going off at a 120 dB. I know Hays probably felt lonely and vulnerable from his separation and blah blah blah, but, seriously, use some common fucking sense and your situational awareness. Does Hays really think that some random cute young woman is trying to pick up his decrepit ass in a hardware store? Does he really think in his present state he’s “attractive”? Does this sound like real life, or like some cheesy Hollywood movie (a lot of Americans have difficulty making this distinction)?

    Good grief.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    Agree. Although Shuman isn’t that good looking. And the age difference isn’t all that huge. 52 at the time they met to what, 32? It’s more the context and her approach than his old decrepit ass. If he approached a woman at a bar and said “are you French? I like the way you tie your scarf.” (he must have supplied that detail to the author, that her scarf was perfectly tied) he might do fine. In fact, Shuman might have been subtler and let him think this was all his idea. But she’s probably found that would result in too normal a mark.

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.

    But yes, the approach by Shuman should have clued him in immediately she’s nuts.
  316. @nebulafox
    >They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

    That's why I'm getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    >There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    Oh, yes... this I know. Some also don't take into account that most of these guys just don't have the goal of sleeping with hundreds of women. Most want a stable girlfriend more than anything else, TBH. It's more functional than anything: if you aren't constantly sexually frustrated, you can focus on your interests way more.

    Still, it isn't hard to note that between the redpill crowd and the feminists/white knights, one typically has a fair amount of people who genuinely want to see you succeed and works you toward what you want, and the other could not care less. It's not hard to figure out which one you are better off listening to, even if you are on the spectrum.

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    Good idea. You gotta be careful and do it right though:
    – Execute the pre-nup at least several months before the wedding date. Makes it harder for her to claim duress later.
    – Make sure she has her own counsel separate from yours review the document. Give her money to pay for it if necessary. If she doesn’t have counsel she can claim she didn’t understand it.
    – Add into the pre-nup that both parties had their own counsel and understand full contents. List counsel names, addresses and contact info.

    I’m not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. Get your own counsel. Avoid female SJW lawyers (I talked to one who seemed more interested in advancing my finacee’s interests over my own, didn’t hire her obviously).

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Better yet, don't get married, don't date, don't associate with women, don't advise any men who do any of those things.
  317. @El Dato

    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room
     
    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?

    And what are fellow students doing? Doing science on the PS4?


    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America’s universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.
     
    Well, you could open Microsoft Stores on the repurposed premises. Nobody goes there.

    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?

    Or, in the context of Steve’s post … the birth gender?

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Anon[234] wrote:


    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?
     
    Or, in the context of Steve’s post … the birth gender?
     
    The attacker was a white female. Her parents are West LA attorneys, which might have something to do with the University response, though I doubt anyone knew that initially.

    My daughter's guess is that the biggest thing is simply that UCLA has an unwritten policy of covering up crime on campus to portray themselves as a safe campu (e.g., compared to USC).

    Also, my daughter, despite severe medical problems, is a generally self-sufficient, competent person. The assailant is quite the opposite: the assailant knows how to come across as a helpless loser. For example, the assailant is an art major and thinks her professors hate her -- almost certainly not true. The professors are probably just trying (overly gently) to tell her she has no artistic talent (verifiably true).

    I suppose the larger problem is that the administraotrs who have the power over students truly have leartned to live the post-modernist credo: in their hearts, they truly do seem to believe that the idea that there are actual facts of the matter -- that the roommate engaged in an unprovoked attack, that my daughter suffered serious injureis confirmed at the UCLA Med Center, etc. -- is just a silly prejudice. Facts are for bigots. Feelings matter, but only feelings of those arbitrarily selected as the chosen people.

    By the way, this cuts across political lines: we have talked with a number of UCLA faculty and staff who are quite appalled by what happened (unfortuantely, none of these have any power over students): I doubt that any of them voted for Trump, and some could be reasoanbly called SJWs.

    There are still decent human beings on all sides of the political and cultural debates. But, I am afraid that the decent ones almost never have power.
  318. @ben tillman

    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.
     
    I've never experienced or heard of such a thing.

    Exhaustion, depression, drugs and prior activity can bring this about. Prematurity or ruination are a sort of variant. Happily for modern Daoists and those concerned with energy, the reverse is also possible: euphoria and muscle spasms while retaining one’s precious bodily fluids.

  319. @SFG
    Jokes aside, and yes, the guy is super gullible, and given that he's a law professor nobody here is going to have any sympathy for him... but there's plenty of spergy engineers and coders out there who get taken for a ride by women and I think most here would have more sympathy for them. The left half of the bell curve in terms of game (who often have other positive qualities in other areas of life) among men have nobody to look out for them and have 'dating advice' from feminists (or people afraid of feminists) that just leads them into more trouble.

    Maybe *this particular* Harvard douche got what he deserved, but there's a lot of clueless guys out there who don't. The lack of good advice for men is a real problem. There's redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don't know what they're doing.

    ” . . . but there’s plenty of spergy engineers and coders out there who get taken for a ride by women . . .”.

    SFG, I recall reading an excerpt from a bio of a technically trained guy whose future wife took the lead in dating and proposing marriage. I guess they were happy, and he was successful.

    I guess my game when younger was crap, but even when just being only friendly, I’d draw some truly weird-shit responses from some women. Following minor surgery, I was taken to the hospital exit. After rising from the wheelchair, and still a bit woozy, I touched the escort nurse, who was about my age, lightly on her back a few times and expressed my thanks for the hospital’s good treatment of me. She started, “Hey, hey”. I was floored. (This was in the 1990s, and we were both in our 40s.)

    Sounds laughable, but if your game is crap to begin with, this sort of stuff can discombobulate you.

  320. @Tim Howells
    Wow! What a frigging story. And coupling that with the earlier Salon piece where Hays calls Scalia a "naive fool" in contrast to his "extraordinary, gifted, brilliant genius" transsexual "friend" ... words fail me. This is like a fairy tale that should be carefully preserved forever as an immortal reminder to never be tempted by liberal, progressive ideology.

    LOL, too!

  321. @Cloudbuster
    If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.

    No, he doesn't None at all.

    Correct. Point and splutter is the Left tactic, and needs to be used here.

  322. @Herbert West
    “If the content of the article is true, than Prof. Hays is the victim of a crime, so he deserves some sympathy.”

    This pro-feminism, pro tranny, ivory tower professional liar deserves everything he got and worse. I hope he loses everything and dies alone in a ditch.

    He earned it.

  323. @Mr McKenna

    In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.
     
    Hmm. How many non-trans people were killed that year?
    And are we including motor-vehicle deaths?

    “In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed.”

    The more people claiming trans status, the more there are to die, by violence or other causes.

    Duh.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Good point. I wonder how many Trans-Americans met up with Untimely Deaths in, say, 1920 or 1930?
  324. @ben tillman

    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.
     
    I've never experienced or heard of such a thing.

    Well, it involves a probe shoved up one’s anus that delivers an electric shock to the prostate. It’s called an electronic ejaculator, and is commonly used on livestock to obtain sperm for the international semen market.

    I don’t know one way or the other, but it wouldn’t surprise me if certain Harvard faculty members use it on themselves from time to time.

  325. @SFG
    I absolutely, 100% agree that the redpill crowd is like 50% on your side and 50% interested in mental masturbation, whereas the feminist/white knight crowd is 33% interested in 'saving the poor womenz', 33% interested in virtue-signalling, and 34% genuinely hating men. (Change those numbers as you see fit--they are very rough estimates.)

    The thing is, #MeToo has significantly increased the risk of a failed pass, and so being too aggressive is a lot riskier than it used to be. The guys have to know the right sites for 'game for betas' (and I couldn't even tell you which ones anymore), and they have to have the humility to read those instead of the 'game for alphas' sites, which is a bitter pill to swallow indeed.

    Heck, I should have probably gone for one of the 'Christian game' sites rather than Heartiste. (Heartiste and Roissy before him were more entertaining, I have to admit.)

    This is exactly wrong. The feminists prey on the weak AFCs, not men who have a decent sense of themselves. Most of the benefit of Roissy was learning about anti-game and eliminating it.

    The sources you’re recommending are rife with it.

    • Replies: @SFG
    Fair enough--I didn't have any specific sites in mind, just musing on my own erroneous choices. ;) Though since I did get something out of Roissy and then Heartiste they weren't that bad.

    Who do you recommend now that Heartiste's gone and Roosh has gone...sort of Christian?

  326. @Jack D

    they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her
     
    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Your daughter should have removed herself to a safe place. If she was not capable of safely defending herself or her property she should have fled. Whatever damage her roommate did to her property could be addressed later - it wasn't worth getting further injured.

    The police are not judges or juries. They are in no position to assess who is "right" or to take sides in domestic disputes. Often BOTH parties are in the wrong in one way or another. To you and your daughter, it may be frickin' obvious that she is the victim and her roommate was the aggressor, but the cops are coming to this situation cold and have no way of knowing who is who instantly. Quite often, the aggressor herself (especially if she is female) will claim to be the victim and will even be the one who calls the cops. Put yourself in the cop's shoes and don't assume that they are automatically going to take your side just because you know that you are right. You know that but they don't and they aren't just going to take your word for it.

    Jack D wrote to me:

    Often BOTH parties are in the wrong in one way or another. To you and your daughter, it may be frickin’ obvious that she is the victim and her roommate was the aggressor, but the cops are coming to this situation cold and have no way of knowing who is who instantly.

    Three cops showed up. One, fortunately the one who wrote the report, was sympathetic and clearly knew what had happened.

    It was in fact all pretty obvious: my daughter had called Dispatch and they had her on the line for eight minutes; she was injured; her property had been destroyed; the assailant was calm and collected while my daughter was obviously traumatized; etc.

    The cop who threatened my daughter with prison was pretty clearly just a thug who probably did not want to do the paperwork: he may also have felt that he was following University policy — UCLA was struck down just a year ago by the CA Supreme Court for negligence in dealing with student safety, and the University has been engaged in one cover-up after another since (the campus paper has run a string of exposes just in the last school year).

    The cop-thug was in fact obviously lying: after all, any adult knows that it is simply not the case that if a fight occurs and if one person goes to prison, then the other automatically goes to prison. But, as a kid, who was traumatized by having just been beaten up and injured, my daughter was not in a position to tell the cop what any American adult knows.

    She did eventually get charges filed, and, of course, the other officers/detectives confirmed the obvious point that, no, if the assailant goes to jail, that does not mean the victim also goes to jail!

    We are considering filing a federal complaint against the crooked cop for violating my daughter’s civil rights by trying to intimidate her from filing charges. But, of course, he would just lie to DoJ, as he lied to my daughter.

    Jack D also wrote:

    When seconds count, the police are only minutes away. Your daughter should have removed herself to a safe place. If she was not capable of safely defending herself or her property she should have fled.

    Sounds good, but it was not easy to do. The thuggish roommate surprise-attacked her when my daughter was blocked off by he own belongings that were packed up to be moved out. After the surprise attack (which caused the fractured bone), my daughter might have been able to defend herself, but that really might have resulted in her being accused.

    The criminal claims that her father had been sexually molesting her for years. That may be part of the explanation, though it is certainly possible, given her behavior, that this is just one more lie.

    Some of the cops do want the assailant prosecuted, and the offense can be prosecuted as a felony under CA law (because of the bone fracture). Whether the DA will deal with it at all… we’ll see.

  327. This story is amazing.

  328. @El Dato

    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room
     
    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?

    And what are fellow students doing? Doing science on the PS4?


    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America’s universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.
     
    Well, you could open Microsoft Stores on the repurposed premises. Nobody goes there.

    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?

    Or sex of the perpetrator?

  329. @nebulafox
    >They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

    That's why I'm getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    >There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    Oh, yes... this I know. Some also don't take into account that most of these guys just don't have the goal of sleeping with hundreds of women. Most want a stable girlfriend more than anything else, TBH. It's more functional than anything: if you aren't constantly sexually frustrated, you can focus on your interests way more.

    Still, it isn't hard to note that between the redpill crowd and the feminists/white knights, one typically has a fair amount of people who genuinely want to see you succeed and works you toward what you want, and the other could not care less. It's not hard to figure out which one you are better off listening to, even if you are on the spectrum.

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    Here’s a good one:

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Careful, certain states have different rules on prenups. You don’t want to encounter a Judge who’s favorite toilet paper brand are prenups. Some states allow judges to toss them out at their own discretion.

    https://youtu.be/7CbKZmROvaQ

    , @SFG
    If the country followed Catholic doctrine, sure, but even with a Catholic wife they can always quit the religion and screw you the usual way.
    , @Percy Gryce
    Agree.
  330. @Kyle
    Not being able to ejaculate is a side effect of anti depressants. It’s the most horrifying and ominous side effect, something that makes you very wary of continuing medication.

    Indeed, so these academic and grad student types, two in the same story, are all depressed and on meds and can’t finish.

    Makes you wonder if its a high IQ thing, or their Ivy League environment, or they just look at themselves one day and say WTF?

  331. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist"

    What Indian/Pakistani is called "Mischa Haider"? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.


    More research needed.

    Haider is a common enough Muslim surname in the Indian sub-continent.
    I have never heard anyone from India or Pakistan describe himself as Indian-Pakistani. Doesn’t happen.
    Mischa for Russians and other Slavs is a pet name for Mikhail, which is a boy’s name.
    In other words, this creature is kosher chazzer fissel right from the get-go.

  332. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.
     
    Do you know what the nutty roommate told the cops?

    It may be the case in CA that in any "domestic" they're required to arrest anyone who is accused of a crime.

    The roommate may have falsely claimed to have been struck by your daughter.

    In any event, you may want to consult with local counsel in order to determine whether the University breached any duties to your daughter which have led to her injuries. Most specifically, has the University received past reports of aggressive behavior regarding the roommate, and what was its response?

    Alec Leamas wrote to me:

    It may be the case in CA that in any “domestic” they’re required to arrest anyone who is accused of a crime.

    Well, the crooked cop made the general statement that if the assailant goes to prison, then so does the victim. An obvious lie. We’ve talked to several other cops about it (LAPD as well as UC PD), and of course it is not true.

    As I said to Jack D, UCLA got in trouble just over a year ago with the CA Supreme Court for negligence with regard to student safety, and there are a huge number of recent cases in which the University has been exposed in coverups.

    One of the University administrators actually threatened to retaliate against my daughter, but my wife and I had gotten down to LA by that time, so we were in the room and called her out on it. Faced with mature adults willing to call her out, she of course backed down. She enjoys beating up on young people, but we were willing to walk out of the room and drive down to the LA Times (and an attorney).

    One of the nasty little games that college administrators play nowadays is to claim that eighteen or nineteen-year-olds are “adults,” and so the administrators try to insist on dealing only with the student without a parent present. And, then when they deal with the student alone, they start trying to intimidate the student and insist that the student show the “respect” that a child owes to an adult.

    We actually have an email chain where a UCLA administrator tried to pull this stunt on our daughter, complaining about a lack of “respect” when our daughter quoted federal law.

    These are the sort of people you would mot want in your neighborhood, much less dealing with young people.

    I should add that the administrator thugs at UCLA are the administrators who actually have direct power over students. We know some other administrators down there — e.g., people responsible for physical plant — who are perfectly normal, decent human beings, but, of course, they lack the power to stop the thugs.

    I suppose what happens is that the people who get off on bullying and intimidating young students are those who fight and struggle to get into the positions where they can do just that. And, yes, the same people have certain student pets and young flunkies that they fawn upon: it’s a very sick little game.

    Freud would have had a field day with these people!

  333. @Bigdicknick
    "Zacks pushed Hay to ask for a paternity test, but Hay wouldn’t have it. Not only did he trust Shuman, he felt it would have been insulting for a heterosexual cisgender man to question a professed lesbian as to whether she’d had sex with other men. He believed her when she said her sexual relationship with him was an exception."

    ...okay


    "The women were planning to sell their house and buy a bigger place in Cambridge (though, at other times, they discussed moving to Europe to flee Trump’s America)."

    man this story really hits all the bases. I wish trump's america was anything like these people's insane fantasies so these people could be imprisoned!

    “they discussed moving to Europe to flee Trump’s America”

    Curious how nobody, and I mean NOBODY, ever discusses moving to Africa to flee Trump’s America.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    People will only figure it all out when there’s nowhere to flee to.
  334. @Kronos
    At this point, I never want to be right about anything.

    Oh brother, I know exactly how you feel.

  335. @Reg Cæsar

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.
     
    Here's a good one:


    http://www.ctsbooks.org/filedepository/january%202016%20covers/thumbnails/do917%20catechism%20of%20the%20catholic%20church%20-%20softback%20(1)_370_296_160208034042.jpg

    Careful, certain states have different rules on prenups. You don’t want to encounter a Judge who’s favorite toilet paper brand are prenups. Some states allow judges to toss them out at their own discretion.

    • Replies: @95Theses
    'smokes!
  336. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist"

    What Indian/Pakistani is called "Mischa Haider"? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.


    More research needed.

    What Indian/Pakistani is called “Mischa Haider”? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.

    Haider (alternatively spelt Hyder) is a fairly common Muslim name, especially in South Asia. I don’t know about the Mischa. It could be an Indian dimunitive or nickname, with a Europeanized spelling.

    https://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/lunch-with-bs-navina-najat-haidar-museum-curator-115061901290_1.html
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-29502393

  337. I also see links online to Pakistani or Indian women named Misha or Meesha, so that probably explains the first part of ‘their’ name.

  338. @El Dato
    Meanwhile, in the real world:

    Wait! US & UK doctors warn against hormones/surgery for trans-identified kids

    Medical professionals in the US and UK are sounding the alarm about the growing use of “hormonal and surgical interventions” for children who are confused about their gender identity, saying that more studies are required.

    Members of the conservative childrens’ advocacy group the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) wrote a letter on Monday to the Surgeon General of the United States, warning about the effects of gender-reassignment surgeries and hormonal drugs on minors, saying such interventions have “not undergone long-term study.”

    ...

    The medical warnings come as the UK’s only child gender clinic, the Gender Identity Development Service (GIDS), reported significant increases in the numbers of children seeking to transition to the opposite gender – an overwhelming majority of them (74 percent) being young girls seeking to transition to a male identity.

     

    I wonder what the intersection is of people losing their shit about "5G radiation" and "coffee cancer" but then are on-board with messing up people with with complimentary transgendeering?

    This meme obsolete?

  339. @Kylie
    Apparently you didn't scroll down far enough.

    "Maria Shuman is 36 years old and a dangerous psychopath."

    Or else you use the definition of "decent" approved of by enemies of the patriarchy.

    No I saw that. I was just kidding around, and fact she got a 3 point something or other, which is “fair”. I think someone just filled in dangerous psychopath yesterday. It also listed her, Hay and Zacks at the same address.

    There’s also a picture of a Maria-Pia Shuman on Facebook. Not the mom. Doesn’t look like the picture in the article but hard to tell.

    You can also see a pic of Zacks holding a dog if you do a google search. Can’t tell much. Decent face. Cute dimple when she smiles.

    Hay is pathologically selfless. Shuman and Haider are sadistic freaks. All they seem to get out of this seems to be the thrill of torturing Hay and his ex and children.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "Hay is pathologically selfless"

    Pathologically in that when I read his apocalyptic piece on Scalia again, I can imagine him shooting 'saboteurs' in the neck or leading tumbrils to the guillotine.

    There are millions more like him, you just have to read the Guardian comments.

    One of the useful things about religion (well Christianity anyway) is the acceptance that we're all short of perfection and our sins are ever before us. Hay and the Guardian commenters have more the old-time mindset of the elect (them) and the damned (us). They're true believers, not a trace of doubt in their minds - until something like this happens to them.

    Be interesting to see if Hay comes out of this with a new humility.

    PhysicistDave, while I know you must be furious, as any father would be, please don't dox yourself here with details. Just reading Steve would be taken as a sign of incurable racism (though I always imagine most commenters are 'content-of-character' types who just can't avoid seeing the patterns and don't see why they should avoid noting them).

    And remember, these uni people believe, or pretend to, in hereditary guilt - aka white privilege. If they hire a lawyer, I imagine they'll be scouring the web for evidence of badthink.

  340. @PennTothal
    To read that entire long article from "the Cut" is to descend into the hell that is the modern age.

    Hay is certainly the leader in the clubhouse for Sailer's Man of the Year award.

    From the article:
    "Shuman called Hay to tell him she was pregnant with his baby. She hadn’t had sex with another man in the past year, she said. Hay was stunned; he hadn’t ejaculated during either of their encounters, a side effect of his medication. But he understood that pregnancy was possible, if rare, without orgasm..."
     

    I’ve long opined that the only thing worse than an intelligentsia that doesn’t mate/marry/breed is one that does.

  341. @PNWmossback
    Take a look at the statistics. It's getting more difficult to identify the race involved in the most recent reports, but the vast majority have been M2F POC working in the "sex industry," and killed by other POC.

    I suspect most of these killings would have been avoided if the victim had been honest avout their status at the beginning of the transaction.

    NBA player Reggie Bullock’s brother/sister was a male to female trans who was murdered in Baltimore in 2014.

  342. @Elli
    "In 2015, according to the Human Rights Campaign, at least 21  trans people were killed in the U.S., then the biggest number to date, a rate that has since climbed."

    The more people claiming trans status, the more there are to die, by violence or other causes.

    Duh.

    Good point. I wonder how many Trans-Americans met up with Untimely Deaths in, say, 1920 or 1930?

    • Replies: @guest
    Is that a dig at Harry Houdini?
  343. @Anonymous
    I'm not always the most "street smart" guy around, but if something like this

    When he directed her to another part of the store, she changed the subject. “By the way, you’re very attractive,” he remembers her saying.
     
    happened to me my internal "Scam Alarm" would be going off at a 120 dB. I know Hays probably felt lonely and vulnerable from his separation and blah blah blah, but, seriously, use some common fucking sense and your situational awareness. Does Hays really think that some random cute young woman is trying to pick up his decrepit ass in a hardware store? Does he really think in his present state he's "attractive"? Does this sound like real life, or like some cheesy Hollywood movie (a lot of Americans have difficulty making this distinction)?

    Good grief.

    Agree. Although Shuman isn’t that good looking. And the age difference isn’t all that huge. 52 at the time they met to what, 32? It’s more the context and her approach than his old decrepit ass. If he approached a woman at a bar and said “are you French? I like the way you tie your scarf.” (he must have supplied that detail to the author, that her scarf was perfectly tied) he might do fine. In fact, Shuman might have been subtler and let him think this was all his idea. But she’s probably found that would result in too normal a mark.

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.

    But yes, the approach by Shuman should have clued him in immediately she’s nuts.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Nuts or a con artist?
    , @The Wild Geese Howard

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.
     
    Doubt it. Female friends are nearly universally interested in conversation over coffee, not an afternoon in bed at the no-tell motel.

    He has lots of female friends because they feel safe around him. Couple this with the fact he's lived in a sexless, separation in the same home as his wife for decades and its not hard to believe Hay is a closet case. His wife is worrying about nothing.

    , @ben tillman

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.
     
    LOL. Good point.
  344. anon[689] • Disclaimer says:

    People are being way too forgiving of Hay.

    The hapless, absent-minded professor schtick doesn’t cut it, considering his kids were harassed and thrown out of their home. What kind of father would put his children in this situation?

    Hay is a passive-aggressive piece of shit, who was likely trying to get back at his wife and viewed his children as an after-thought in this pursuit.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    People are being way too forgiving of Hay.
     
    Lol wut?
  345. @Jack D
    When Einstein rejected quantum mechanics with his statement that "God does not play dice", Bohr supposedly replied, "Einstein, stop telling God what to do!"

    Also apt to this thread, Bohr said:


    An expert is a person who has found out by his own painful experience all the mistakes that one can make in a very narrow field.
     

    Bohr supposedly replied, “Einstein, stop telling God what to do!”

    Though it’s something of an ethnic proclivity.

  346. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Mischa Haider:
     
    Dude is the spit and image of a Jewish guy I know who still plays in an 80s Hair Band.

    Yeah, he looks like fat Gene Simmons / Chaim Witz.

  347. @prime noticer
    "This is not correct, providing that the science that said professor is talking about is his exact field of study"

    hence the rest of my sentence. without extensive verification from unrelated sources.

    harvard SCIENCE professors are LIARS ABOUT SCIENCE half the time. have you not noticed this? i'm talking about things they are supposed to be experts on.

    we're putting aside the factor of science being unsettled in many cases, and going directly into obvious situations of them deliberately being wrong, sometimes on purpose.

    the standard for non-political technical work at the ivy league universities is dogshit half the time. again, it wasn't always this way, but is CLEARLY THIS WAY NOW. is there still ground breaking and correct work being done? yes. at the same time, is lots of the work being done today simply total bullshit and misleading garbage? how could you not see that.

    ivy league professors are just dead wrong about certain SCIENCE AND MEDICINE topics now some of the time.

    it's a good thing most critical engineering doesn't come out of these places.

    “it’s a good thing most critical engineering doesn’t come out of these places.”

    Where are some places in the US? Any thoughts on Chinese universities?

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Harvey Mudd College
    The California (Massachusetts, Georgia...) Institutes of Technology
    Carnegie-Mellon University
    The Universities of Washington, Illinois, Michigan, California...
    The Johns Hopkins University (for medicine, biology and related sciences)

    There are a lot. The Ivy League, though, is not the beat place for studying and research in science and engineering.

    Europe has RTWH Aachan, ETH Zurich, Imperial College London (and Oxbridge), Delft University....

    China is a nutty place because it is so corrupt and so much of their science and engineering relies upon the theft of intellectual property and similar shenanigans. They have solid universities doing interesting work, but its harder to sort the wheat from the chaff.
  348. @YetAnotherAnon
    "Haider, a loquacious, impassioned Indian-Pakistani trans woman physicist"

    What Indian/Pakistani is called "Mischa Haider"? The first name is Russian or Jewish, the surname perhaps Austrian.


    More research needed.

    Wikipedia tells me there are no less than seven distinct groups of Jews in India, so there could be a hypothetical connection. Or, since trannies are so honest and grounded, it could just be made up.

  349. @JimB
    “What a lowlife, this Hay. Scalia cut him a break and this is how Hay repays him, after Scalia’s death no less?“

    I’m not exactly sure what sort of fact checking went into this Cut piece, but Shuman and Haider sure look and act like gypsies. Coming home after a vacation to find gypsies living in your house with your personal belongings out on the sidewalk is a pretty common problem in Europe, and it can take months to years to evict them. It’s a standard Roma grift. So is the “You are the father of my baby” wheeze.

    I’m not exactly sure what sort of fact checking went into this Cut piece, but Shuman and Haider sure look and act like gypsies.

    Interesting point. Gypsies hail from India, as I understand it, so ‘India-Pakistani’ might come from that. And the odd home swap seems like very unusual behavior for more conventional grifters. Though on the other hand ‘Shuman’ and ‘Haider’ still give off a Jewish vibe.

  350. @Jack D
    Who foretold Scalia's death?

    Scalia was a 79 year old man with heart disease. He had, shortly before his death, been deemed not healthy enough to undergo minor surgery. Some of his companions at the ranch stated that Scalia had reported not feeling well the night before his death. There was no sign of any disturbance in his room.

    There was no sign of any disturbance in his room.

    He was found with a pillow over his face.

  351. @Smithsonian
    In the science fiction novel 'The Forever War', the hero returns to Earth several hundred years after he left (due to the effects of time dilation) only to find that his society had been taken over by bizarre sexual deviants.
    Nowadays, you can get the same sense of alienation just by returning home after a fortnight's holiday.

    Welcome to Pride Month, soon to be Pride Year!

  352. @J.Ross
    That doesn't mean he wasn't murdered, only that it would be easy. The death of Gorky is still an open question. Exact details before the event in Podesta's emails are a bizarre coincidence at best. But the certainty is that it will not be investigated, even as everybody who ever ate lunch with Trump is, just in case they pronounce their H's as G's.

    even as everybody who ever ate lunch with Trump is, just in case they pronounce their H’s as G’s.

    Ginsburg’s Ghost. He orders his steak well-done with ketchup.

  353. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    "they discussed moving to Europe to flee Trump's America"

    Curious how nobody, and I mean NOBODY, ever discusses moving to Africa to flee Trump's America.

    People will only figure it all out when there’s nowhere to flee to.

  354. @Kyle

    “This past fall, I met Doe, who told me Shuman appeared out of nowhere at an intersection where he was standing with two colleagues and started chatting him up
     
    Rumplestilskin appeared to the maiden and promised to spin straw into gold in exchange for her necklace, then her ring, then her first born child.

    the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”)
     
    Is that what they encourage the kids to call her or is that something the kids came up with? It’s genius she certainly is a “ma-man.”
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AoB6nF_O4Ns
    This really is a modern day fairy tale. 100 years from now the good people of trumps america will tuck in their little trumpenkins at night to recite the tale of Mia-pia and Ma-man. Two evil imp like creatures appear to a hapless liberal professor. They promise him sexual debauchery and a cure for all his worldly ills. They send him on vacation but when he returns the goblins have moved into his house, thrown out all of his stuff, and pawned off his family heirlooms. It’s not even his house anymore, they’ve tricked him into signing it away! Of course the moral of the story is...

    I just really hate the patriarchy, that’s it.”
     

    Is that what they encourage the kids to call her or is that something the kids came up with? It’s genius she certainly is a “ma-man.”

    Heh, excellent. Though ‘maman’ is also just French for ‘mom’.

  355. @donut
    Thoughts and prayers buddy , but that's probably the most useful lesson she'll get at any major American University . The alarm bells will go off sooner for her in the future and it may just save her life . She's young and young people have a lot of comeback .
    Maybe get her a copy of "The Confederacy of the Dunces" to read while she recuperates , laughter is the best medicine they say .

    donut wrote to me:

    Thoughts and prayers buddy , but that’s probably the most useful lesson she’ll get at any major American University . The alarm bells will go off sooner for her in the future and it may just save her life . She’s young and young people have a lot of comeback .

    Yeah, she has already said that in a very strange sense it has prepared her to deal with other difficulties and traumas in life. For several minutes, she was truly afraid the roommate was trying to kill her: the roommate did throw blunt heavy objects at her (ceramic mug, large glass drinking glass, ~40-lb. packed suticase, etc.) and knocked her down several times. My daughter actually thinks that if she had stayed down any of the times she was knocked down, the roommate might have grabbed one of the heavy objects and bashed her skull in.

    Thinking you are going to die does focus the mind!

    My wife and I heard the first few seconds of the attack, and then the phone line went dead. For the better part of an hour, until the polkice let her call us, we were really worried she was dead.

    My daughter has said that in some ways what has traumatized her even more than the attack was the attempt of the rogue cop and most of the University officials to somehow blame her, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    For some years, I think she has believed that I was overwrought in saying that there is something horribly wrong at a deeply personal level with the people who control this society. She no longer thinks I am overwrought.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Wish your daughter the best Phys Dave. Kudos to her for fighting through it. Can't imagine you and your bride's aniexty while this was going on.

    Glad she soldiered through it and came out tougher. (I've found some people aren't very resilent.)

    And kudos to you folks in deal with these thuggish appartchiks. I'm not so good at that. At some point i'd just saying my piece, saying "what the $%@#$& is wrong with you!" and be putting these people on my list.
  356. @Kyle

    “This past fall, I met Doe, who told me Shuman appeared out of nowhere at an intersection where he was standing with two colleagues and started chatting him up
     
    Rumplestilskin appeared to the maiden and promised to spin straw into gold in exchange for her necklace, then her ring, then her first born child.

    the mother of two children (who call her “Maman”)
     
    Is that what they encourage the kids to call her or is that something the kids came up with? It’s genius she certainly is a “ma-man.”
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AoB6nF_O4Ns
    This really is a modern day fairy tale. 100 years from now the good people of trumps america will tuck in their little trumpenkins at night to recite the tale of Mia-pia and Ma-man. Two evil imp like creatures appear to a hapless liberal professor. They promise him sexual debauchery and a cure for all his worldly ills. They send him on vacation but when he returns the goblins have moved into his house, thrown out all of his stuff, and pawned off his family heirlooms. It’s not even his house anymore, they’ve tricked him into signing it away! Of course the moral of the story is...

    I just really hate the patriarchy, that’s it.”
     

    This really is a modern day fairy tale. 100 years from now the good people of trumps america will tuck in their little trumpenkins at night to recite the tale of Mia-pia and Ma-man. Two evil imp like creatures appear to a hapless liberal professor. They promise him sexual debauchery and a cure for all his worldly ills. They send him on vacation but when he returns the goblins have moved into his house, thrown out all of his stuff, and pawned off his family heirlooms. It’s not even his house anymore, they’ve tricked him into signing it away!

    You’re on fire today.

  357. @Hhsiii
    Agree. Although Shuman isn’t that good looking. And the age difference isn’t all that huge. 52 at the time they met to what, 32? It’s more the context and her approach than his old decrepit ass. If he approached a woman at a bar and said “are you French? I like the way you tie your scarf.” (he must have supplied that detail to the author, that her scarf was perfectly tied) he might do fine. In fact, Shuman might have been subtler and let him think this was all his idea. But she’s probably found that would result in too normal a mark.

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.

    But yes, the approach by Shuman should have clued him in immediately she’s nuts.

    Nuts or a con artist?

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    She's both.

    The con didn't seem to really reap her all that much. A few months in his house? She seems to have independent sources of funds. Most of what she gets out of the con is the satisfaction she gets out of torturing him, hence she's nuts. She's sadistic. He's a masochist, too.

    BTW, here is Maria-Pia Shuman's facebook page. Is that pic the same as the girl in the magazine article?

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005476398676
  358. @Laurence Whelk
    When I was a kid, apparently hundreds of kids were being maimed by errant blasting caps - I remember seeing countless PSAs on television warning me “DON’T TOUCH IT!”. From all the commercials, I expected to find deadly hyper-sensitive explosive blasting caps in every vacant lot and trash heap in my neighborhood. To my dismay (I was a boy and it was the ‘60s), I never saw one in my entire childhood. Here’s Willie Mays warning kids about the deadly blasting cap (“Call the PO’lice.”)

    https://youtu.be/skfZQ9fRpf4

    Now I’m a much older man completing a Ph.D at a large and world-renowned private university. In my work and studies, I come across a fair amount of female SJWs, assorted LG[BLT]s, and a handful of Trannies of various types in various stages. I regard these (and to a certain extent, ALL female students and colleagues) with the same self-preserving caution Willie recommended concerning blasting caps. Carelessly handling any of the above types can blow up in your face and end your academic and professional career, or worse.

    So my unspoken policy is to have no extra-curricular interactions with the afore-mentioned categories. No beers after class, no personal conversation - I just maintain a polite and professional distance, physically and emotionally. It’s a shame that it has come to this, because making personal connections are a large part of the benefit of higher education. I really don’t know what these young purple hairs, queers, and sexually confused oddities think they are accomplishing by antagonizing and alienating white male students and faculty. Maybe they are depending on the sorority of the Woke for future professional and academic connections. I prefer to spend my time associating with the older, whiter, male-r faculty - we all get along just fine, you know, like normal people, almost.

    So my unspoken policy is to have no extra-curricular interactions with the afore-mentioned categories. No beers after class, no personal conversation – I just maintain a polite and professional distance, physically and emotionally. It’s a shame that it has come to this, because making personal connections are a large part of the benefit of higher education.

    It seems a wise policy. And, pragmatically speaking, personal connections with that crowd is never an advantage for you.

  359. @nebulafox
    >They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

    That's why I'm getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    >There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    Oh, yes... this I know. Some also don't take into account that most of these guys just don't have the goal of sleeping with hundreds of women. Most want a stable girlfriend more than anything else, TBH. It's more functional than anything: if you aren't constantly sexually frustrated, you can focus on your interests way more.

    Still, it isn't hard to note that between the redpill crowd and the feminists/white knights, one typically has a fair amount of people who genuinely want to see you succeed and works you toward what you want, and the other could not care less. It's not hard to figure out which one you are better off listening to, even if you are on the spectrum.

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    The devil is in the details, so do have a look at this too: http://www.realworlddivorce.com/

  360. @Anon

    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?
     
    Or, in the context of Steve's post ... the birth gender?

    Anon[234] wrote:

    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?

    Or, in the context of Steve’s post … the birth gender?

    The attacker was a white female. Her parents are West LA attorneys, which might have something to do with the University response, though I doubt anyone knew that initially.

    My daughter’s guess is that the biggest thing is simply that UCLA has an unwritten policy of covering up crime on campus to portray themselves as a safe campu (e.g., compared to USC).

    Also, my daughter, despite severe medical problems, is a generally self-sufficient, competent person. The assailant is quite the opposite: the assailant knows how to come across as a helpless loser. For example, the assailant is an art major and thinks her professors hate her — almost certainly not true. The professors are probably just trying (overly gently) to tell her she has no artistic talent (verifiably true).

    I suppose the larger problem is that the administraotrs who have the power over students truly have leartned to live the post-modernist credo: in their hearts, they truly do seem to believe that the idea that there are actual facts of the matter — that the roommate engaged in an unprovoked attack, that my daughter suffered serious injureis confirmed at the UCLA Med Center, etc. — is just a silly prejudice. Facts are for bigots. Feelings matter, but only feelings of those arbitrarily selected as the chosen people.

    By the way, this cuts across political lines: we have talked with a number of UCLA faculty and staff who are quite appalled by what happened (unfortuantely, none of these have any power over students): I doubt that any of them voted for Trump, and some could be reasoanbly called SJWs.

    There are still decent human beings on all sides of the political and cultural debates. But, I am afraid that the decent ones almost never have power.

    • Replies: @JackOH
    PhysicistDave, my local state university, which I know well, will obstinately defend itself at great cost against legal action, even when the final judgment or settlement shows the university was in the wrong and knew it was in the wrong, or that a settlement reached earlier would likely have been the wiser and less costly course of action.

    Why the stubbornness? My reasonably informed guess is that administrators and in-house counsel are aware that there are chronic problem departments and individuals that present with potentially criminal or civilly actionable behavior. Bureaucratic inertia protects those problem departments and individuals year after year. When a specific criminal charge or specific civil action against the university happens, there's a real feeling the university has to fight like hell to protect itself not just against the specific complaint, but also against the possibility of other misconduct in other areas of the university being revealed.
    , @Verymuchalive
    When I was a student, on the other side of the Atlantic, and in the 20th Century, you had 2 choices. Many, if not most, studied at their local University and remained at home. This was a cheap and effective means to get a degree. This was an era when there were no tuition fees and grants were available.
    The other option was to go elsewhere and become a flatmate in a leased flat. Very few stayed in University Halls of Residence. But even here, most had individual flats.
    Fast Forward America 2019. Not only are their parents paying massive sums to support them, but the students are staying on campus in shared accommodation !
    This was one of the main criticisms of English Public School System. In modern Britain, there is a great deal of inspection to ensure that no physical and mental abuse occurs in boarding schools.
    In modern America, you have a boarding University system. But there is no regulation.
    Physicist Dave, you are fortunate that you're daughter did not suffer more severe injuries
  361. @Hhsiii
    No I saw that. I was just kidding around, and fact she got a 3 point something or other, which is “fair”. I think someone just filled in dangerous psychopath yesterday. It also listed her, Hay and Zacks at the same address.

    There’s also a picture of a Maria-Pia Shuman on Facebook. Not the mom. Doesn’t look like the picture in the article but hard to tell.

    You can also see a pic of Zacks holding a dog if you do a google search. Can’t tell much. Decent face. Cute dimple when she smiles.

    Hay is pathologically selfless. Shuman and Haider are sadistic freaks. All they seem to get out of this seems to be the thrill of torturing Hay and his ex and children.

    “Hay is pathologically selfless”

    Pathologically in that when I read his apocalyptic piece on Scalia again, I can imagine him shooting ‘saboteurs’ in the neck or leading tumbrils to the guillotine.

    There are millions more like him, you just have to read the Guardian comments.

    One of the useful things about religion (well Christianity anyway) is the acceptance that we’re all short of perfection and our sins are ever before us. Hay and the Guardian commenters have more the old-time mindset of the elect (them) and the damned (us). They’re true believers, not a trace of doubt in their minds – until something like this happens to them.

    Be interesting to see if Hay comes out of this with a new humility.

    PhysicistDave, while I know you must be furious, as any father would be, please don’t dox yourself here with details. Just reading Steve would be taken as a sign of incurable racism (though I always imagine most commenters are ‘content-of-character’ types who just can’t avoid seeing the patterns and don’t see why they should avoid noting them).

    And remember, these uni people believe, or pretend to, in hereditary guilt – aka white privilege. If they hire a lawyer, I imagine they’ll be scouring the web for evidence of badthink.

  362. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it. Young guys: if your girlfriend/wife starts putting you off …
     
    "She who does not bang, neither shall she eat."

    That’s the best prescription for America’s ‘obesity epidemic’ I’ve heard yet.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    Only if you like fat chicks.
  363. @Desiderius
    This is exactly wrong. The feminists prey on the weak AFCs, not men who have a decent sense of themselves. Most of the benefit of Roissy was learning about anti-game and eliminating it.

    The sources you’re recommending are rife with it.

    Fair enough–I didn’t have any specific sites in mind, just musing on my own erroneous choices. 😉 Though since I did get something out of Roissy and then Heartiste they weren’t that bad.

    Who do you recommend now that Heartiste’s gone and Roosh has gone…sort of Christian?

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    https://twitter.com/EMichaelJones1/status/1154209122356740097?s=20
    , @Autochthon
    Is Dalrock still around? He might be what tou have in mind....
  364. @Reg Cæsar

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.
     
    Here's a good one:


    http://www.ctsbooks.org/filedepository/january%202016%20covers/thumbnails/do917%20catechism%20of%20the%20catholic%20church%20-%20softback%20(1)_370_296_160208034042.jpg

    If the country followed Catholic doctrine, sure, but even with a Catholic wife they can always quit the religion and screw you the usual way.

  365. @Hhsiii
    Agree. Although Shuman isn’t that good looking. And the age difference isn’t all that huge. 52 at the time they met to what, 32? It’s more the context and her approach than his old decrepit ass. If he approached a woman at a bar and said “are you French? I like the way you tie your scarf.” (he must have supplied that detail to the author, that her scarf was perfectly tied) he might do fine. In fact, Shuman might have been subtler and let him think this was all his idea. But she’s probably found that would result in too normal a mark.

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.

    But yes, the approach by Shuman should have clued him in immediately she’s nuts.

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.

    Doubt it. Female friends are nearly universally interested in conversation over coffee, not an afternoon in bed at the no-tell motel.

    He has lots of female friends because they feel safe around him. Couple this with the fact he’s lived in a sexless, separation in the same home as his wife for decades and its not hard to believe Hay is a closet case. His wife is worrying about nothing.

    • Replies: @hhsiii
    Fair points, except for the fact he actually did bang this nut-job con artist apparently, so it isn't like he's totally lost interest in women.

    I'm not suggesting he has a high sex drive or is laden with testosterone. Merely that, with some allowances for his sperginess, he could have gotten laid by younger women as good looking as Shuman if that was his goal. Sure, most would be somewhat out for his money or whatever prestige being a Harvard Prof has with some women. Some would want to mother him. some would see their own spergy daddy in him, whatever.

    Also, one gets the feeling the sexlessness of the relationship may be on him as much as the ex-wife.

    The ex-wife has a better read on the situation than Hay does. Sure, a lot of the female friends may just want conversation. I bet some hear a little of the "sexless co-habiting" thing and think about maybe they can pry him away.

    Likely not now. He's been de-asseted (sic?) and lawyer-feed to death, and his story is now public.

    I certainly could be wrong. I've been married for 12 years and met my wife 14 years ago when I was 41 and she was 23. Getting laid was easier at that age for me than at 21, not that I was getting a lot of 9s and 10s. Or any. :) I'm pretty sure i could still attract a mid-30s woman, and they definitely flirt. It isn't this guys looks or the mere concept that makes it out of the question. That's all I was saying initially. It's the immediate declaration that he's attractive at a hardware store that's makes it odd, not the mere fact he might snag a 32 year-old rather plain Jane.
  366. @anon
    People are being way too forgiving of Hay.

    The hapless, absent-minded professor schtick doesn't cut it, considering his kids were harassed and thrown out of their home. What kind of father would put his children in this situation?

    Hay is a passive-aggressive piece of shit, who was likely trying to get back at his wife and viewed his children as an after-thought in this pursuit.

    People are being way too forgiving of Hay.

    Lol wut?

  367. @PhysicistDave
    Anon[234] wrote:


    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?
     
    Or, in the context of Steve’s post … the birth gender?
     
    The attacker was a white female. Her parents are West LA attorneys, which might have something to do with the University response, though I doubt anyone knew that initially.

    My daughter's guess is that the biggest thing is simply that UCLA has an unwritten policy of covering up crime on campus to portray themselves as a safe campu (e.g., compared to USC).

    Also, my daughter, despite severe medical problems, is a generally self-sufficient, competent person. The assailant is quite the opposite: the assailant knows how to come across as a helpless loser. For example, the assailant is an art major and thinks her professors hate her -- almost certainly not true. The professors are probably just trying (overly gently) to tell her she has no artistic talent (verifiably true).

    I suppose the larger problem is that the administraotrs who have the power over students truly have leartned to live the post-modernist credo: in their hearts, they truly do seem to believe that the idea that there are actual facts of the matter -- that the roommate engaged in an unprovoked attack, that my daughter suffered serious injureis confirmed at the UCLA Med Center, etc. -- is just a silly prejudice. Facts are for bigots. Feelings matter, but only feelings of those arbitrarily selected as the chosen people.

    By the way, this cuts across political lines: we have talked with a number of UCLA faculty and staff who are quite appalled by what happened (unfortuantely, none of these have any power over students): I doubt that any of them voted for Trump, and some could be reasoanbly called SJWs.

    There are still decent human beings on all sides of the political and cultural debates. But, I am afraid that the decent ones almost never have power.

    PhysicistDave, my local state university, which I know well, will obstinately defend itself at great cost against legal action, even when the final judgment or settlement shows the university was in the wrong and knew it was in the wrong, or that a settlement reached earlier would likely have been the wiser and less costly course of action.

    Why the stubbornness? My reasonably informed guess is that administrators and in-house counsel are aware that there are chronic problem departments and individuals that present with potentially criminal or civilly actionable behavior. Bureaucratic inertia protects those problem departments and individuals year after year. When a specific criminal charge or specific civil action against the university happens, there’s a real feeling the university has to fight like hell to protect itself not just against the specific complaint, but also against the possibility of other misconduct in other areas of the university being revealed.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    That kind of stubbornness didn't work out too well for Oberlin which today was ordered to post a $36+ million dollar bond.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/oberlin-college-ordered-to-post-36-million-bond-to-delay-gibsons-bakery-collection-of-judgment/
    , @Autochthon
    Your theories are incompatible. There's no discovery quite like the wholesome goodness of discovery for a trial. People with things to hide settle, and they settle quickly and happily. The last thing anyone with all kinds of shenanigans to hide needs is a pile of interrogatories, clever litigators deposing witnesses, and an order to hand over all kinds of electronic mail, text-messages, and similar records, almost certain to contain some evidence about the misbehaviour, if only by dint of a careless communication here or there that points to smoking guns – and that's before the ruthless cross examinations in open court.

    I don't doubt your point about refusals to settle, but it's not done because of a drive to hide shenanigans; it's true stupidity, arrogance even, from True Believers.
  368. @J.Ross
    I'm sorry you came to this conclusion in this way. But all we have to do is find a way to attack the money. These people are protected from the consequences of their actions by walls of endowed money. Take away the money and they'll become the most sensible and practical people.

    Yes. My favorite story here was Antioch College, where the spoiled members of the college first became radical, then when that drove away students, they began to spend not the yield on the endowment but the endowment itself.

    They never became sensible and practical, however, and wound up spending the whole endowment, shutting the college. They may still be insensible, but it no longer matters.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    I spent some time in the summer of 69 at Antioch and it was total Hippie City.
  369. @Hapalong Cassidy
    Geez, the first clue should have been when she said “I couldn’t help notice how attractive you are.” Sorry, but normal women don’t do that. Not saying they don’t ever take the initiative, but they are never that direct. If that woman had approached me like that, my first assumption would have been that she was a prostitute.

    One of the very few times I’ve been hit on since I’ve been married was at a store near Dulles airport. A gorgeous half-Thai stewardess approached me and made small talk.

    It was so surreal that my nearly immediate thought was: what’s the scam?

    Remember: if you can’t spot the mark, you’re the mark.

    • Agree: jim jones
  370. @Reg Cæsar

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.
     
    Here's a good one:


    http://www.ctsbooks.org/filedepository/january%202016%20covers/thumbnails/do917%20catechism%20of%20the%20catholic%20church%20-%20softback%20(1)_370_296_160208034042.jpg

    Agree.

  371. @SFG
    Fair enough--I didn't have any specific sites in mind, just musing on my own erroneous choices. ;) Though since I did get something out of Roissy and then Heartiste they weren't that bad.

    Who do you recommend now that Heartiste's gone and Roosh has gone...sort of Christian?

  372. These two articles resulted in China’s “USA is Dead” algorithm to shave 8 months off America’s projected collapse.

  373. @Corn
    From the article:

    “Zacks pushed Hay to ask for a paternity test, but Hay wouldn’t have it. Not only did he trust Shuman, he felt it would have been insulting for a heterosexual cisgender man to question a professed lesbian as to whether she’d had sex with other men. He believed her when she said her sexual relationship with him was an exception.”

    This man should be forcibly sterilized ala Buck v. Bell.

    He just fails at life.

    Sounds like he has already chemically castrated himself voluntarily

  374. @Mitchell Porter
    Rather than study the nuances of this tale of "soyboy meets griftgirl" - as edifying as that might be - I was hoping to perform the simpler task, of viewing Mischa Haider's physics research, and judging its significance for myself. But all I am finding are trans activist op-eds.

    Haider has a contributor bio at Huffington Post, which provides a few specifics: "at Harvard University.. applications of mathematical and physical models to social networks... research on femtosecond lasers and NMR studies of protein structure. Before coming to Harvard, ... high temperature superconductivity at Imperial College. ... her research has been published in Applied Physics Letters".

    So let's head on over to Applied Physics Letters. Employ the search option in the header, leave publication as "This Publication", and type in "Haider" as the search term. Three authors named Haider are suggested. It's not hard to list their publications and see the author's university affiliations. There was a Niaz Haider from Imperial College, but the topic is not superconductivity, the papers were over 25 years ago, and that person is now a quant in New York. And that was the closest match I found. (But I encourage interested parties to conduct their own search, and see if they can reproduce my null result.)

    Well, until some science turns up, let's take a look at Haider's activist writings. Here is a paragraph from a Guardian op-ed dating from October 2018:

    "Transgender erasure is a weapon being used to fight against women’s equality. In order for a mechanism of oppression to exist between two classes in society, differentiation between them is crucial. In the same fashion as interracial relationships and mixed-race children were anathema to segregationists, transgender people pose a serious challenge for patriarchal structures. The inviolable superior status of white people over black people is challenged when there are people who are both black and white. Similarly, in creating gray space between male and female, transgender people subvert the patriarchy."

    Now it seems to me that being in the excluded middle of these oppressive binaries, has a rather different significance in real life. The pitch in the Guardian article is that when the absoluteness of the distinction between male and female, or black and white, becomes harder to sustain, gender and racial hierarchy as such becomes impossible. But the way it seems to work in real life, is that progressive society simply upholds a new hierarchy that inverts the old, as reparations for the past; and being in the ambiguous middle means that you also get a slightly elevated status, because at least you're not unambiguously white or unambiguously male.

    Anyway, if some actual physics turns up, I will post about it...

    Try INSPEC or Dissertation Abstracts International. If you take out a friends-of-the-library membership at a local academic library, it may include a franchise to use the specialized databases to which they subscribe. GoogleScholar can be very hit-and-miss.

  375. @Jack D
    You would think so, but Hay seems to be naive beyond belief according to his own account. I stress the words BEYOND BELIEF. There have been other cases of supposedly smart people being scammed when you think that they should have recognized the con job (Congressman Ed Mezvinsky falling for the Nigerian "black money" currency wash scam) but the essence of any con is that "you can't cheat an honest man".

    Sometimes I feel as if these scams are from a prior age, like some old movie that depends on the characters not having cell phones or the whole plot falls apart. An age before you could google "Nigerian black money scam" or "paternity DNA test".

    the essence of any con is that “you can’t cheat an honest man”

    You most certainly can, as the honest man has less reason to think that the other would cheat him, than one who has himself cheated . It’s just a cop-out for the scammer to alleviate any slight pangs of his atrophied conscience.

  376. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    WOW! Now that “The Big Bang Theory” is off the air the guy who played Raj Koothrapali has really let himself go!

  377. @Lot
    ISF also said “practicing Christian” and “married to the same woman for 56 years.”

    Both of these in the USA are strongly correlated with 100+ IQ and high conscientiousness!

    Good to see you praise Christianity, even if indirectly.

  378. Mischa Haider comes up as a grad student in applied physics, but unfortunately this webpage isn’t dated. His advisor is given as Jukka-Pekka Onnela.
    https://tinyurl.com/y29sfbk4

    Onnela, oddly, is not currently listed as faculty of any sort in the physics department.
    He turns out to be an associate professor in the Harvard School of Public Health, Department of Biostatistics, where he has been working since 2011. He has advanced degrees in computational and network science, and his big project right now is some sociological BS dealing with smart-phone “digital phenotypes” (his words — ooo Sciencey!). Also, Onnela is based over on Huntington Ave, on the border of Roxbury, which is fairly far from Harvard Square and a pain in the neck to get to from there.
    Healthhttps://tinyurl.com/y45k34f6

    What it looks like is that Haider was accepted into an applied physics PhD program, but then didn’t like it or couldn’t cut it and so (was?) shifted over to a completely different school, Public Health, where, perhaps not coincidentally, no advanced physics would be needed. Computer programming, statistics, and social “science” theorizing.

    It would be a travesty if Harvard awarded this guy a physics PhD for working with Onnela, but I suspect Haider will relieve them of that decision. According to the article, he’s been seriously depressed and unable to focus on work — other than writing variations on the theme of Oppressed Tranny for decidedly non-academic outlets — since 2015 at least. Harvard isn’t quite so solicitous of grad students as undergrads. The former have 10 years max to have a dissertation produced and accepted, and the university really pushes to have this completed well before the time limit.

  379. @Alec Leamas (hard at work)

    No, not really. Having lots of children, even while Christian, is no big accomplishment. There are lots of good Christian men all over Africa who have done this and this doesn’t make them laudable.
     
    Did God not enjoin us to be fruitful and multiply?

    The key is not "having" lots of children (this is a slippery term applied to derelicts and conscientious fathers alike), it is successfully rearing a brood of lots of children to be at the very least creditable, law-abiding, and productive members of society.

    In African society "having" lots of children is considered a form of wealth, probably because in old age you'll have younger and still productive people to take care of you in a place without 401Ks, an inflated housing market, and Social Security and Medicare benefits.

    Glad to see you hard at work again. I thought you had retired
    Of course, lots of African fathers of nine have multiple wives. Polygamy is very rarely a good thing.

  380. @Mr McKenna
    Was listening to oldies the other night and "Lola" came on, along with "Ob-la-di, Ob-la-da" and I wondered, was this where it all began? I didn't dare wonder where it all might end. Amazing that "Walk on the Wild Side" could be a hit.

    See the movie The Pawnbroker from the early sixties. That film gets much of the credit for opening the doors to the degeneracy we have in entertainment today.

  381. @Moses

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.
     
    Good idea. You gotta be careful and do it right though:
    - Execute the pre-nup at least several months before the wedding date. Makes it harder for her to claim duress later.
    - Make sure she has her own counsel separate from yours review the document. Give her money to pay for it if necessary. If she doesn't have counsel she can claim she didn't understand it.
    - Add into the pre-nup that both parties had their own counsel and understand full contents. List counsel names, addresses and contact info.

    I'm not a lawyer and this is not legal advice. Get your own counsel. Avoid female SJW lawyers (I talked to one who seemed more interested in advancing my finacee's interests over my own, didn't hire her obviously).

    Better yet, don’t get married, don’t date, don’t associate with women, don’t advise any men who do any of those things.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Better yet, don’t get married, don’t date, don’t associate with women, don’t advise any men who do any of those things.
     
    Huh? That's great advice to give to the low IQ, illegals, muzzies and other hostile immigrant invaders.

    For competent middle class American men, there is no alternative but trying to navigate the mess that is American womanhood and finding one of high character who wants to be a wife and mother.

    As unpleasant as they are as a class, i'm convinced that a lot of them are redeemable by men ... who are manly and forthrightly state what they are looking for and how things are going to be. Afterall, we're talking about girls here. They are natural followers and unfortunately they have been propagandized from birth by Hollyweird, the schools, academia, etc. But their bodies are still telling them something else, and strong confident men can bring them around.

    Or at least i sure as hell hope so ... or the minoritarian cancer has already triumphed.
    , @AnotherDad
    sCR, on 2nd read of Moses and your response right in a row, i realize i misread your comment.

    Still, i don't agree. I don't think Moses is off base.

    A carefully executed pre-nup isn't a terrible idea, even if the courts end up brushing it aside. It should be part of a couple making sure they have the same expectations. And bringing it up--airing out those expectation--for a guy can be incredibly useful in smoking out girls who really don't get it--aren't willing to be a wife and mother--and avoiding marrying them.

    If a girl can't handle pre-nup talk, expectations talk puncturing her image of "her special day" ... pass.
  382. @PhysicistDave
    Anon[234] wrote:


    Are we invited to take a guess at the respective skin coloring?
     
    Or, in the context of Steve’s post … the birth gender?
     
    The attacker was a white female. Her parents are West LA attorneys, which might have something to do with the University response, though I doubt anyone knew that initially.

    My daughter's guess is that the biggest thing is simply that UCLA has an unwritten policy of covering up crime on campus to portray themselves as a safe campu (e.g., compared to USC).

    Also, my daughter, despite severe medical problems, is a generally self-sufficient, competent person. The assailant is quite the opposite: the assailant knows how to come across as a helpless loser. For example, the assailant is an art major and thinks her professors hate her -- almost certainly not true. The professors are probably just trying (overly gently) to tell her she has no artistic talent (verifiably true).

    I suppose the larger problem is that the administraotrs who have the power over students truly have leartned to live the post-modernist credo: in their hearts, they truly do seem to believe that the idea that there are actual facts of the matter -- that the roommate engaged in an unprovoked attack, that my daughter suffered serious injureis confirmed at the UCLA Med Center, etc. -- is just a silly prejudice. Facts are for bigots. Feelings matter, but only feelings of those arbitrarily selected as the chosen people.

    By the way, this cuts across political lines: we have talked with a number of UCLA faculty and staff who are quite appalled by what happened (unfortuantely, none of these have any power over students): I doubt that any of them voted for Trump, and some could be reasoanbly called SJWs.

    There are still decent human beings on all sides of the political and cultural debates. But, I am afraid that the decent ones almost never have power.

    When I was a student, on the other side of the Atlantic, and in the 20th Century, you had 2 choices. Many, if not most, studied at their local University and remained at home. This was a cheap and effective means to get a degree. This was an era when there were no tuition fees and grants were available.
    The other option was to go elsewhere and become a flatmate in a leased flat. Very few stayed in University Halls of Residence. But even here, most had individual flats.
    Fast Forward America 2019. Not only are their parents paying massive sums to support them, but the students are staying on campus in shared accommodation !
    This was one of the main criticisms of English Public School System. In modern Britain, there is a great deal of inspection to ensure that no physical and mental abuse occurs in boarding schools.
    In modern America, you have a boarding University system. But there is no regulation.
    Physicist Dave, you are fortunate that you’re daughter did not suffer more severe injuries

  383. @The Alarmist
    Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/mischa-haider/headshot.jpg

    The sad thing is, that’s a relatively flattering picture of her compared to some others.

  384. Anon[232] • Disclaimer says:
    @Kronos
    Were they mainly male or female POC?

    Female PoC.

    And there was one white female physics professor whose PhD was not from the physics department.

    I have a bad habit of researching the careers of any black STEM professors I come across, so there may be a selection bias. Maybe there are white or Asian men with suspect degrees, but I doubt it.

    Another pattern is the biracial woman who identifies as black, but, for instance in the case of a professor in Washington state, has a Jewish father. In that case her PhD is legit, but she seems to spend most of her time on diversity and inclusion activism. I initially thought she was a tranny, her Twitter feed was so aggressively anti-patriarchy, but no. Although no more than half black, she behaves full black in the way she mentions her credentials at every opportunity.

    There’s a black female math adjunct in Hawaii whose dissertation was a mashup of a math paper and a “sassy” autobiography of how hard it was for her to get her degree. It was the weirdest thing you can imagine, but of course the feminist blogs found it and you-go-girled it. Her advisor was a young Fields medalist who probably was afraid to object to her nonsense for fear of being cancelled.

    • Replies: @nebulafox
    It's kind of weird that they get attention, because most woman physicists and coders I've met just want to be thought of as scientists and coders like any other.

    It's sort of like all the discussion about Turing right now: I think if he were alive, he'd be a lot happier if the lay public took more of an interest in the ACE than who he had sex with. It's not that he'd be ashamed about his homosexuality or anything or wouldn't advocate for gay rights and whatnot, but I think he'd view it as ancillary in who he was as a person and what he wanted people to think of for his legacy, compared to his work.

    , @Kronos
    Man, I thought a Fields metal would make someone bulletproof.


    But have you ever encountered a genuine high IQ (145-165) black STEM professor? I understand statistically (Frequentist approach) they’re the unicorns of academia.
  385. To paraphrase The Bard: “The good professor doth protest a tad too much.”

  386. @ben tillman

    A man can ejaculate without orgasming.
     
    I've never experienced or heard of such a thing.

    It’s called ejaculatory anhedonia, which could be described in layman’s terms as squirting without feelings of pleasure. Several causes have been postulated but none have been proven.

  387. @Smithsonian
    In the science fiction novel 'The Forever War', the hero returns to Earth several hundred years after he left (due to the effects of time dilation) only to find that his society had been taken over by bizarre sexual deviants.
    Nowadays, you can get the same sense of alienation just by returning home after a fortnight's holiday.

    to find that his society had been taken over by bizarre sexual deviants

    As a result of deliberate government policy.

  388. @Hypnotoad666
    I guess professor Hay was not a fan of the Davies brothers.

    Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
    Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
    Oh my Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola, lo lo lo lo Lola

    I think Dr. Hay could have written the lyric, “Well I’m not the world’s most masculine man.”

  389. @Jack D
    Nuts or a con artist?

    She’s both.

    The con didn’t seem to really reap her all that much. A few months in his house? She seems to have independent sources of funds. Most of what she gets out of the con is the satisfaction she gets out of torturing him, hence she’s nuts. She’s sadistic. He’s a masochist, too.

    BTW, here is Maria-Pia Shuman’s facebook page. Is that pic the same as the girl in the magazine article?

    https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005476398676

  390. @Anon
    Female PoC.

    And there was one white female physics professor whose PhD was not from the physics department.

    I have a bad habit of researching the careers of any black STEM professors I come across, so there may be a selection bias. Maybe there are white or Asian men with suspect degrees, but I doubt it.

    Another pattern is the biracial woman who identifies as black, but, for instance in the case of a professor in Washington state, has a Jewish father. In that case her PhD is legit, but she seems to spend most of her time on diversity and inclusion activism. I initially thought she was a tranny, her Twitter feed was so aggressively anti-patriarchy, but no. Although no more than half black, she behaves full black in the way she mentions her credentials at every opportunity.

    There's a black female math adjunct in Hawaii whose dissertation was a mashup of a math paper and a "sassy" autobiography of how hard it was for her to get her degree. It was the weirdest thing you can imagine, but of course the feminist blogs found it and you-go-girled it. Her advisor was a young Fields medalist who probably was afraid to object to her nonsense for fear of being cancelled.

    It’s kind of weird that they get attention, because most woman physicists and coders I’ve met just want to be thought of as scientists and coders like any other.

    It’s sort of like all the discussion about Turing right now: I think if he were alive, he’d be a lot happier if the lay public took more of an interest in the ACE than who he had sex with. It’s not that he’d be ashamed about his homosexuality or anything or wouldn’t advocate for gay rights and whatnot, but I think he’d view it as ancillary in who he was as a person and what he wanted people to think of for his legacy, compared to his work.

  391. @guest
    I envy you.

    I have my own problems, I assure you.

  392. @JackOH
    PhysicistDave, my local state university, which I know well, will obstinately defend itself at great cost against legal action, even when the final judgment or settlement shows the university was in the wrong and knew it was in the wrong, or that a settlement reached earlier would likely have been the wiser and less costly course of action.

    Why the stubbornness? My reasonably informed guess is that administrators and in-house counsel are aware that there are chronic problem departments and individuals that present with potentially criminal or civilly actionable behavior. Bureaucratic inertia protects those problem departments and individuals year after year. When a specific criminal charge or specific civil action against the university happens, there's a real feeling the university has to fight like hell to protect itself not just against the specific complaint, but also against the possibility of other misconduct in other areas of the university being revealed.

    That kind of stubbornness didn’t work out too well for Oberlin which today was ordered to post a $36+ million dollar bond.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/oberlin-college-ordered-to-post-36-million-bond-to-delay-gibsons-bakery-collection-of-judgment/

    • Replies: @JackOH
    Yeah, JDB. I sent my note of support to Gibson's a month or so ago.

    Try Margaret Soltan's University Diaries blog for an insider's view of the academy. If she's not your cuppa, she has a blogroll of other insiders' sites. There's the Pope Center's Clarion Call newsletter, sort of conservative and libertarian. If you find yourself at first disbelieving what you're reading about the hinky stuff behind the university gates, well, you're growing.

    If I were dictator of America, I'd cut higher education immediately by 80%, and consider it a service to the people.

  393. @Mr McKenna
    That's the best prescription for America's 'obesity epidemic' I've heard yet.

    Only if you like fat chicks.

  394. @Gordo
    What is with all these guys in the story not being able to cum?

    I mean it can't be a disgust reflex on their part because they don't seem to have one

    I went through a rough patch about 10 years ago and got on an SSRI for a few weeks. It makes it pretty much impossible to finish. I decided I’d rather be depressed and stopped taking it.

    • Replies: @Gordo

    I went through a rough patch about 10 years ago and got on an SSRI for a few weeks. It makes it pretty much impossible to finish. I decided I’d rather be depressed and stopped taking it.
     
    Those things do more harm than good.
  395. @TomSchmidt
    Yes. My favorite story here was Antioch College, where the spoiled members of the college first became radical, then when that drove away students, they began to spend not the yield on the endowment but the endowment itself.

    They never became sensible and practical, however, and wound up spending the whole endowment, shutting the college. They may still be insensible, but it no longer matters.

    I spent some time in the summer of 69 at Antioch and it was total Hippie City.

  396. @Hhsiii
    Agree. Although Shuman isn’t that good looking. And the age difference isn’t all that huge. 52 at the time they met to what, 32? It’s more the context and her approach than his old decrepit ass. If he approached a woman at a bar and said “are you French? I like the way you tie your scarf.” (he must have supplied that detail to the author, that her scarf was perfectly tied) he might do fine. In fact, Shuman might have been subtler and let him think this was all his idea. But she’s probably found that would result in too normal a mark.

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.

    But yes, the approach by Shuman should have clued him in immediately she’s nuts.

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.

    LOL. Good point.

  397. @AnotherDad


    “Seriously, no man living with a woman should tolerate anything other than sex whenever and wherever he wants it.”
     
    Really? Would that include a morbidly obese man (5’9″, 320 lbs) who refuses to shower and shave married to a woman who is height/weight proportionate, clean and groomed?
     
    Snorlax basically covered the territory for me. Obviously my statement doesn't cover every exact--hey the kid needs to go tot he hospital--case. But it's the gist of it.

    You morbidly obese case:

    I find a lot of Americans to be physically unpleasant now. People i wouldn't want to have sex with then even if i loved them. I think a lot of Americans are walking insults to their spouses. But that's me. If it's the case for your hypothetical woman--fine. But then this morbidly obese case should have been dealt with before he was mordibly obese--it didn't happen in one night. And if he does not reform and make himself physically palatable to his wife ... then yes she can go on a sex strike. But at that point--the marriage is over. It's basically an announcement by the wife that he has failed the basics. If the guy really values the marriage, he can turn it around ... but if he wanted to he would have done it already.

    At root--my point--a healthy marriage requires a healthy sex life. And guys in particular--but a lot of women too--do not sign up to marriage to be put off. If that even starts to occur it means the woman no longer respects the guy and that is absolute death to the marriage. A guy can not beg--that loses even more respect. He must demand that his needs are met, and if she is unwilling than obviously he has lost her respect, her desire for him as a husband. It's done.

    Sex is simply not an optional part of marriage. And not one--either partner--should be negoitiating for. For guys--she starts to jack you around;l ay down the law, or end it.

    The Apostle Paul offered similar counsel:

    each man should have relations with his own wife and each woman with her own husband. A husband should give to his wife her sexual rights, and likewise a wife to her husband. It is not the wife who has the rights to her own body, but the husband. In the same way, it is not the husband who has the rights to his own body, but the wife. Do not deprive each other, except by mutual agreement for a specified time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then resume your relationship,

  398. @Anon
    Female PoC.

    And there was one white female physics professor whose PhD was not from the physics department.

    I have a bad habit of researching the careers of any black STEM professors I come across, so there may be a selection bias. Maybe there are white or Asian men with suspect degrees, but I doubt it.

    Another pattern is the biracial woman who identifies as black, but, for instance in the case of a professor in Washington state, has a Jewish father. In that case her PhD is legit, but she seems to spend most of her time on diversity and inclusion activism. I initially thought she was a tranny, her Twitter feed was so aggressively anti-patriarchy, but no. Although no more than half black, she behaves full black in the way she mentions her credentials at every opportunity.

    There's a black female math adjunct in Hawaii whose dissertation was a mashup of a math paper and a "sassy" autobiography of how hard it was for her to get her degree. It was the weirdest thing you can imagine, but of course the feminist blogs found it and you-go-girled it. Her advisor was a young Fields medalist who probably was afraid to object to her nonsense for fear of being cancelled.

    Man, I thought a Fields metal would make someone bulletproof.

    But have you ever encountered a genuine high IQ (145-165) black STEM professor? I understand statistically (Frequentist approach) they’re the unicorns of academia.

  399. @The Wild Geese Howard

    He’s in shape, and successful professionally. If he wasn’t so on the spectrum he’d get laid all the time. Notice he has lots of female friends and his wife suspects their ulterior motives.
     
    Doubt it. Female friends are nearly universally interested in conversation over coffee, not an afternoon in bed at the no-tell motel.

    He has lots of female friends because they feel safe around him. Couple this with the fact he's lived in a sexless, separation in the same home as his wife for decades and its not hard to believe Hay is a closet case. His wife is worrying about nothing.

    Fair points, except for the fact he actually did bang this nut-job con artist apparently, so it isn’t like he’s totally lost interest in women.

    I’m not suggesting he has a high sex drive or is laden with testosterone. Merely that, with some allowances for his sperginess, he could have gotten laid by younger women as good looking as Shuman if that was his goal. Sure, most would be somewhat out for his money or whatever prestige being a Harvard Prof has with some women. Some would want to mother him. some would see their own spergy daddy in him, whatever.

    Also, one gets the feeling the sexlessness of the relationship may be on him as much as the ex-wife.

    The ex-wife has a better read on the situation than Hay does. Sure, a lot of the female friends may just want conversation. I bet some hear a little of the “sexless co-habiting” thing and think about maybe they can pry him away.

    Likely not now. He’s been de-asseted (sic?) and lawyer-feed to death, and his story is now public.

    I certainly could be wrong. I’ve been married for 12 years and met my wife 14 years ago when I was 41 and she was 23. Getting laid was easier at that age for me than at 21, not that I was getting a lot of 9s and 10s. Or any. 🙂 I’m pretty sure i could still attract a mid-30s woman, and they definitely flirt. It isn’t this guys looks or the mere concept that makes it out of the question. That’s all I was saying initially. It’s the immediate declaration that he’s attractive at a hardware store that’s makes it odd, not the mere fact he might snag a 32 year-old rather plain Jane.

  400. @SFG
    Fair enough--I didn't have any specific sites in mind, just musing on my own erroneous choices. ;) Though since I did get something out of Roissy and then Heartiste they weren't that bad.

    Who do you recommend now that Heartiste's gone and Roosh has gone...sort of Christian?

    Is Dalrock still around? He might be what tou have in mind….

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    He’s always been solid.
  401. @Mr McKenna
    Was listening to oldies the other night and "Lola" came on, along with "Ob-la-di, Ob-la-da" and I wondered, was this where it all began? I didn't dare wonder where it all might end. Amazing that "Walk on the Wild Side" could be a hit.

    I have an old gay book from the sixties. Coatesishly enough a lot of the content is homosexuals frankly describing how violent and criminal they are. The scare quote on the back is something like “one day we will be the normal ones — and you’ll be abnormal.” In other words, this is not about joining, this is about destroying.

  402. I would have LOVED to have been a fly on the wall the day his wife came home from Europe and he had to tell her they lost the house. LOL.

  403. @J.Ross
    The norm is that the woman gets fat, in fact it's normal to see an in-shape guy with a fat girlfriend.

    The norm is that the woman gets fat, in fact it’s normal to see an in-shape guy with a fat girlfriend.

    Probably the most common is fat couple or fat family.

    But this–fat wife, normal guy–is ridiculously common. The wife a walking–waddling–insult to her husband. One assumes they guy is doing his basic job of providing money–someone is buying her food! (Probably even improving his financial prospects aover time.) But she’s not doing even her basic job of providing decent sex to her husband.

    I don’t like going all Whiskey but white women really do seem to have “left the reservation”. Zero accountablity. This ship won’t be righted until white men take back control.

  404. I’d rather be ruled by the first thousand handles in an iSteve comment thread than by the faculty at Harvard.

  405. @HammerJack
    Yeah, that's ridiculous. What I can't understand about AD here is why he (or any man) would want sex which isn't freely and eagerly shared.

    How is it a turn-on if the other part has to be compelled, cajoled, required, rented? Doesn't that imply something pretty unfortunate about your own appeal?

    I'm 100% male and have always been (and will always be, so long as I can stay out of the clutches of Current Year Democrats). But for the life of me I sometimes simply cannot understand how certain other men are constructed.

    Having said all of that, I certainly understand the appeal of D/S sex. Without getting into TMI, I understand it very well. But that's another matter entirely. I wouldn't want it with someone who didn't want it at least as much as I do, preferably more.

    Yeah, that’s ridiculous. What I can’t understand about AD here is why he (or any man) would want sex which isn’t freely and eagerly shared.

    How is it a turn-on if the other part has to be compelled, cajoled, required, rented? Doesn’t that imply something pretty unfortunate about your own appeal?

    Hammer, you don’t seem to understand my point.

    My point is that in a marriage the sex is supposed to be “freely and eagerly” shared.

    The guy precisely should *not* have to be cajoling it out of the gal. If the gal is saying “no” or playing games–“when you take me to Cancun”, “when you buy me some jewelry”–then it isn’t a marriage. It’s a bunch of manipulative b.s. no guy–worth his salt–should put up with. The gal–and guy–signed up for “freely and eagerly” when she married. If she didn’t want that–don’t marry and keep your grubby hands off his paycheck.

    Usually when a guy isn’t getting the sex he wants in a relationship it is because the woman no longer feels respect for the guy … and the relationship is done.

    There is/was something deeply weird about this Hays character’s “relationship” with his “wife”. Not party to the details/speculating seems like he lost her respect long, long ago–and they divorced–but she wanted him around for financial reasons and would occasional roll in the hay with him–presumably when she got horny enough to need it–to help keep him around. I have an extremely low opinion of the guy–especially given his IQ–but still he should have wanted/demanded better for himself.

    • Replies: @Hhsiii
    He’s on anti-depressants and it seems as likely that he is the one who is turning down the ex-wife’s sexual requests. Think Married With Children and Al Bundy. Or it’s mutual.
  406. @Bardon Kaldian

    The whole story is an elaborate punchline about how Bruce hay is the kind of person teaching judgment and decision making at Harvard.
     
    Oh, God.... I missed that part.

    Regarding the whole story, it is basically about immense potential of hallucination in a soft society. One cannot blame Roman senators in the Caligula-horse case (after all, it was a life or death situation).
    But this...

    How spineless can you get? Delusional? What is human nature?

    Regarding the whole story, it is basically about immense potential of hallucination in a soft society.

    Spot on BK.

    (I’m pretty soft myself, but this level of incredible please-punch-me stupidity … holy cow! Did you learn nothing growing up? Learn nothing banging on through life? What the hell is wrong with these people?)

  407. @nebulafox
    >They can hit you with a huge divorce settlement if you bounce.

    That's why I'm getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    >There’s redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don’t know what they’re doing.

    Oh, yes... this I know. Some also don't take into account that most of these guys just don't have the goal of sleeping with hundreds of women. Most want a stable girlfriend more than anything else, TBH. It's more functional than anything: if you aren't constantly sexually frustrated, you can focus on your interests way more.

    Still, it isn't hard to note that between the redpill crowd and the feminists/white knights, one typically has a fair amount of people who genuinely want to see you succeed and works you toward what you want, and the other could not care less. It's not hard to figure out which one you are better off listening to, even if you are on the spectrum.

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.

    The problem is family courts shred pre-nups like they are getting ready for a ticker-tape parade.

    American women are the most special and cossetted creatures in the history of the universe. You–white boy!–on the other hand are a serf, who exists to work and pay. (Basically when it comes to divorce, suddenly American women are no longer liberated women but all dutiful long-suffering 1950s housewives, with their virginity now “ruined”. They don’t have to do anything for you, but you must keep paying and paying and paying.)

    As i’ve pointed out all the faggy and tranny stuff actually provides a potential path out.

    The key to this whole mess is child custody. If we can get completely “gender-neutral” 50-50 child custody as the norm–each “partner” having the kids half the time, and neither paying the other a dime, then American marriages rebalance and get a lot more healthy.

    • Replies: @Alden
    The 50-50 thing doesn’t work either unless the parents live in the same school district and near each other. Then there’s the games played such as one parent never buying clothes sports equipment.
  408. @stillCARealist
    Better yet, don't get married, don't date, don't associate with women, don't advise any men who do any of those things.

    Better yet, don’t get married, don’t date, don’t associate with women, don’t advise any men who do any of those things.

    Huh? That’s great advice to give to the low IQ, illegals, muzzies and other hostile immigrant invaders.

    For competent middle class American men, there is no alternative but trying to navigate the mess that is American womanhood and finding one of high character who wants to be a wife and mother.

    As unpleasant as they are as a class, i’m convinced that a lot of them are redeemable by men … who are manly and forthrightly state what they are looking for and how things are going to be. Afterall, we’re talking about girls here. They are natural followers and unfortunately they have been propagandized from birth by Hollyweird, the schools, academia, etc. But their bodies are still telling them something else, and strong confident men can bring them around.

    Or at least i sure as hell hope so … or the minoritarian cancer has already triumphed.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
    • Replies: @Corvinus
    "For competent middle class American men, there is no alternative but trying to navigate the mess that is American womanhood and finding one of high character who wants to be a wife and mother."

    American womanhood is not the mess that you think it is.

    "i’m convinced that a lot of them are redeemable by men … who are manly and forthrightly state what they are looking for and how things are going to be."

    Actually, how things are going to be in the relationship is decided by the couple themselves, not by the man or woman.

    "Afterall, we’re talking about girls here."

    Is Epstein your idol?

    " They are natural followers and unfortunately they have been propagandized from birth by
    Hollyweird, the schools, academia, etc. But their bodies are still telling them something else, and strong confident men can bring them around."

    Actually, strong confident men work together with strong confident women.
  409. @Laurence Whelk
    When I was a kid, apparently hundreds of kids were being maimed by errant blasting caps - I remember seeing countless PSAs on television warning me “DON’T TOUCH IT!”. From all the commercials, I expected to find deadly hyper-sensitive explosive blasting caps in every vacant lot and trash heap in my neighborhood. To my dismay (I was a boy and it was the ‘60s), I never saw one in my entire childhood. Here’s Willie Mays warning kids about the deadly blasting cap (“Call the PO’lice.”)

    https://youtu.be/skfZQ9fRpf4

    Now I’m a much older man completing a Ph.D at a large and world-renowned private university. In my work and studies, I come across a fair amount of female SJWs, assorted LG[BLT]s, and a handful of Trannies of various types in various stages. I regard these (and to a certain extent, ALL female students and colleagues) with the same self-preserving caution Willie recommended concerning blasting caps. Carelessly handling any of the above types can blow up in your face and end your academic and professional career, or worse.

    So my unspoken policy is to have no extra-curricular interactions with the afore-mentioned categories. No beers after class, no personal conversation - I just maintain a polite and professional distance, physically and emotionally. It’s a shame that it has come to this, because making personal connections are a large part of the benefit of higher education. I really don’t know what these young purple hairs, queers, and sexually confused oddities think they are accomplishing by antagonizing and alienating white male students and faculty. Maybe they are depending on the sorority of the Woke for future professional and academic connections. I prefer to spend my time associating with the older, whiter, male-r faculty - we all get along just fine, you know, like normal people, almost.

    So my unspoken policy is to have no extra-curricular interactions with the afore-mentioned categories. No beers after class, no personal conversation – I just maintain a polite and professional distance, physically and emotionally.

    American women have been so steeped in the minoritarian narrative of “oppression” they seem to have lost all reason. This male response to #MeToo is entirely predictable, but women lack even the one step reasoning to predict it.

    I’m a guy, i’m not claiming navigating life as a girl is easy. But if you’re sporting a couple X chromosomes, then that’s you job, so just do it directly:

    If you’ve been raped, go to the police.

    If a guy gives you an undesired grope–smack him.

    If a guy makes an undesired request for a date, or other romance–turn him down politely and sympathetically–it’s actually a compliment to your feminity–but explicitly.

    It’s obvious to me, that a lot of women do not deal male romantic interest explicitly because they want to milk it to get favors, special treatment etc. Sorry. You don’t have that have-my-cake-and-eat-it-too privilege. If you want males–or a male–to stop X, Y, Z, then be clear and stop it.

    ~~

    The #MeToo path we’re on, fewer women will find male mentors, fewer women will be “in the loop” with male colleagues, fewer women will get asked out–especially by the guy they want and fewer women will get married and fewer will have the life and the babies they wanted.

    Which perhaps was the point of those pushing it.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    AD-

    The milking you point out is not always consciously done by the woman. There are many, many men who, for one reason or another, misinterpret friendly, open behavior from women as a sign of genuine romantic interest.

    Possibly a design flaw in humans, or possibly a cosmic joke, one that is getting very old.
  410. @Mitchell Porter
    Rather than study the nuances of this tale of "soyboy meets griftgirl" - as edifying as that might be - I was hoping to perform the simpler task, of viewing Mischa Haider's physics research, and judging its significance for myself. But all I am finding are trans activist op-eds.

    Haider has a contributor bio at Huffington Post, which provides a few specifics: "at Harvard University.. applications of mathematical and physical models to social networks... research on femtosecond lasers and NMR studies of protein structure. Before coming to Harvard, ... high temperature superconductivity at Imperial College. ... her research has been published in Applied Physics Letters".

    So let's head on over to Applied Physics Letters. Employ the search option in the header, leave publication as "This Publication", and type in "Haider" as the search term. Three authors named Haider are suggested. It's not hard to list their publications and see the author's university affiliations. There was a Niaz Haider from Imperial College, but the topic is not superconductivity, the papers were over 25 years ago, and that person is now a quant in New York. And that was the closest match I found. (But I encourage interested parties to conduct their own search, and see if they can reproduce my null result.)

    Well, until some science turns up, let's take a look at Haider's activist writings. Here is a paragraph from a Guardian op-ed dating from October 2018:

    "Transgender erasure is a weapon being used to fight against women’s equality. In order for a mechanism of oppression to exist between two classes in society, differentiation between them is crucial. In the same fashion as interracial relationships and mixed-race children were anathema to segregationists, transgender people pose a serious challenge for patriarchal structures. The inviolable superior status of white people over black people is challenged when there are people who are both black and white. Similarly, in creating gray space between male and female, transgender people subvert the patriarchy."

    Now it seems to me that being in the excluded middle of these oppressive binaries, has a rather different significance in real life. The pitch in the Guardian article is that when the absoluteness of the distinction between male and female, or black and white, becomes harder to sustain, gender and racial hierarchy as such becomes impossible. But the way it seems to work in real life, is that progressive society simply upholds a new hierarchy that inverts the old, as reparations for the past; and being in the ambiguous middle means that you also get a slightly elevated status, because at least you're not unambiguously white or unambiguously male.

    Anyway, if some actual physics turns up, I will post about it...

    Mischa appears as “Misha Haider-Syed” alongside of Maria-Pia Shuman, in the acknowledgments of the following 2012 Harvard University PhD dissertation “First-Principles Multiscale Investigation of Structural and Chemical Defects in Metals” written by Georg Schusteritsch.

    “…all the friends I was able to make and get to know. This particularly includes Charbel Madi, Hao Shuo, Misha Haider-Syed, Maria-Pia Shuman, Sungkun Hong, Sahand Hormoz and Tzahi Cohen-Karni. I am probably most indebted to my family…”

    Does “Misha Haider-Syed” imply a previous marriage??

    • Replies: @Stunned Billionaire
    Syed is an honorific title denoting people accepted as descendants of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Given all the other craziness going on in this story, and the fact that this guy later dropped the title, I wonder if it was just another borrowed identity.
  411. @Stan Adams
    Mischa Haider:
    https://pixel.nymag.com/imgs/fashion/daily/2019/07/18/magazine/harvard/haider.w570.h570.2x.jpg

    Oof!

    I am vomit. Grandparent sorrow.

  412. @stillCARealist
    Better yet, don't get married, don't date, don't associate with women, don't advise any men who do any of those things.

    sCR, on 2nd read of Moses and your response right in a row, i realize i misread your comment.

    Still, i don’t agree. I don’t think Moses is off base.

    A carefully executed pre-nup isn’t a terrible idea, even if the courts end up brushing it aside. It should be part of a couple making sure they have the same expectations. And bringing it up–airing out those expectation–for a guy can be incredibly useful in smoking out girls who really don’t get it–aren’t willing to be a wife and mother–and avoiding marrying them.

    If a girl can’t handle pre-nup talk, expectations talk puncturing her image of “her special day” … pass.

    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    Pre-nups are for people on a 2nd or 3rd marriage who have children and property to protect. A first time couple should be talking about all the expectations and counseling with other adults as to what those expectations mean.

    Moses made it sound like he's anticipating being cheated and fleeced. If that's the level of his dis-trust, he shouldn't be making a marriage contract.
  413. @PhysicistDave
    donut wrote to me:

    Thoughts and prayers buddy , but that’s probably the most useful lesson she’ll get at any major American University . The alarm bells will go off sooner for her in the future and it may just save her life . She’s young and young people have a lot of comeback .
     
    Yeah, she has already said that in a very strange sense it has prepared her to deal with other difficulties and traumas in life. For several minutes, she was truly afraid the roommate was trying to kill her: the roommate did throw blunt heavy objects at her (ceramic mug, large glass drinking glass, ~40-lb. packed suticase, etc.) and knocked her down several times. My daughter actually thinks that if she had stayed down any of the times she was knocked down, the roommate might have grabbed one of the heavy objects and bashed her skull in.

    Thinking you are going to die does focus the mind!

    My wife and I heard the first few seconds of the attack, and then the phone line went dead. For the better part of an hour, until the polkice let her call us, we were really worried she was dead.

    My daughter has said that in some ways what has traumatized her even more than the attack was the attempt of the rogue cop and most of the University officials to somehow blame her, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

    For some years, I think she has believed that I was overwrought in saying that there is something horribly wrong at a deeply personal level with the people who control this society. She no longer thinks I am overwrought.

    Wish your daughter the best Phys Dave. Kudos to her for fighting through it. Can’t imagine you and your bride’s aniexty while this was going on.

    Glad she soldiered through it and came out tougher. (I’ve found some people aren’t very resilent.)

    And kudos to you folks in deal with these thuggish appartchiks. I’m not so good at that. At some point i’d just saying my piece, saying “what the $%@#$& is wrong with you!” and be putting these people on my list.

  414. @SFG
    Jokes aside, and yes, the guy is super gullible, and given that he's a law professor nobody here is going to have any sympathy for him... but there's plenty of spergy engineers and coders out there who get taken for a ride by women and I think most here would have more sympathy for them. The left half of the bell curve in terms of game (who often have other positive qualities in other areas of life) among men have nobody to look out for them and have 'dating advice' from feminists (or people afraid of feminists) that just leads them into more trouble.

    Maybe *this particular* Harvard douche got what he deserved, but there's a lot of clueless guys out there who don't. The lack of good advice for men is a real problem. There's redpill sites, I guess, but you have to know where to go, and a lot of the prescriptions can be really dangerous for guys on the spectrum or simply below average in game who don't know what they're doing.

    Obviously men are taken in by women. But in this particular case, one of them wasn’t even a woman. He didn’t even get an orgasm out of the deal.

    I realize confidence tricksters say marks “beg for it,” but it’s almost as if instead of profiting off the relationships his upside was being taken advantage of. And how do you not exploit that?

    Every time he’s confronted with betrayal or manipulation, it’s all “but they’re mentally unwell!” Well, yeah. That’s why they’re trying to steal your house.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Hay's weirdly glowing, sycophantic descriptions of the hideous tranny as his life's muse are another huge tell that he is not the 100% USDA grade A heterosexual male that he, and many here, want to believe that he is.
  415. @Con Moto
    Stupid question: why would a drug company sell an anti-depressant whose side effect for men is not climaxing during intercourse? I know $$$ is the answer but seriously, I would assume that wouldn't help your mental state. Also, any man reading the side-effects might pass on buying your product.

    Other than that I LOL'd.

    Apparently people do buy them. Possibly they’re not very sexually motivated anyway. Possibly they think there’s a fate worse than no orgasms .

  416. @PhysicistDave
    On May 10, my daughter at UCLA was attacked and injured by her roommate in their on-campus dorm room -- fractured bone (proven by X-rays), bruises all over her body, etc. My daughter was preparing to move out of the room and was all packed up and waiting for help to move out (it had become clear that her roommate was disturbed). She had not been confronting or even speaking to the roommate when the attack began.

    My wife and I were on the phone when the attack began. My daughter then called UCPD Dispatch and they have an eight-minute tape of her pleading with them to get the police there to protect her. Aside from the physical injuries, the assailant intentionally destroyed some of my daughter's property.

    When the campus cops showed up, one told her that if she filed charges and the assailant went to prison, my daughter also would go to prison. It took two further trips to the police station to finally get charges filed.

    The University officials have done nothing to deal with the assailant: they started off seemingly trying to blame my daughter. They now seem to have moved to the position that the fault was shared equally. Needless to say, the assailant suffered no injuries at all.

    It was Harvard's response to Hay's situation that brought all this to mind.

    I have finally become convinced that the only way to deal with America's universities really is to shut them all down, demolish all the buildings, and sow the ground with salt.

    Something has gone very wrong.

    (By the way, I know a person, whom I have reason to trust, who recently had a position with Harvard dealing with victims of sexual assault. This person views claims that Harvard is taking sexual assault more seriously as laughable. This friend, who is familiar with policies at a number of universities around the country, claims that cover-up is almost always the policy at leading US universities. Harvard's reaction to Hay -- that by going to the press, he was behaving badly -- is not a surprising response.)

    I agree that the universities and colleges should all be closed down. Leave the medical and law schools and admit the students at 18. The STEM schools can be renamed Polytechnics. Only STEM subjects taught.

    Probably send every full and part time law professor plus all former administrators consultants coordinators analysts directors assistant directors off to an arctic gulag.

    • Replies: @PhysicistDave
    Alden wrote to me:

    I agree that the universities and colleges should all be closed down. Leave the medical and law schools and admit the students at 18. The STEM schools can be renamed Polytechnics. Only STEM subjects taught.
     
    Yeah.

    I should make clear that her experience in the UCLA School of Engineering has generally been positive. She is also a pianist/composer (and is paid to play her own compositions at the on-campus Conference Center) and has generally had good experiences with the School of Music. Both the engineering profs and the music profs know what their mission is and seem, on the whole, to be seriously pursuing it.

    The problem is a lot (not all) of the faculty in the "College of Letters and Sciences"and, above all, the University-wide administrators.

    Hayek titled one of his chapters in The Road to Serfdom: "Why the Worst Get on Top." He might have been thinking of current administrators in American universities.
    , @TomSchmidt
    Leave the law schools?

    For a very long time, lost schools served as one of the chief sources of funding for university administrations. It turns out that running the law school is highly probable: you pay one professor about three or $400,000 a year to stand in front of the room and Yell at people. You only have to pay to fund the law library; unlike medical school, there are no labs or other important physical infrastructure.

    Now that enrollment is down, however, law schools have become black holes of debt, with tenured lawyers as professors, so that they cannot be fired. So, maybe you're correct: leave them open and bleed out the administrators.

  417. @AnotherDad

    That’s why I’m getting a pre-nup if I ever marry.
     
    The problem is family courts shred pre-nups like they are getting ready for a ticker-tape parade.

    American women are the most special and cossetted creatures in the history of the universe. You--white boy!--on the other hand are a serf, who exists to work and pay. (Basically when it comes to divorce, suddenly American women are no longer liberated women but all dutiful long-suffering 1950s housewives, with their virginity now "ruined". They don't have to do anything for you, but you must keep paying and paying and paying.)

    As i've pointed out all the faggy and tranny stuff actually provides a potential path out.

    The key to this whole mess is child custody. If we can get completely "gender-neutral" 50-50 child custody as the norm--each "partner" having the kids half the time, and neither paying the other a dime, then American marriages rebalance and get a lot more healthy.

    The 50-50 thing doesn’t work either unless the parents live in the same school district and near each other. Then there’s the games played such as one parent never buying clothes sports equipment.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    In Noah Baumbach's "The Squid and the Whale" the divorcing parents explain how joint custody will work with the boys spending half of each week and each parent's apartment.

    "What about the cat."

    "The cat will go back and forth too"

    "On the subway?"

  418. @The Alarmist
    Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/mischa-haider/headshot.jpg
  419. @Kronos
    Careful, certain states have different rules on prenups. You don’t want to encounter a Judge who’s favorite toilet paper brand are prenups. Some states allow judges to toss them out at their own discretion.

    https://youtu.be/7CbKZmROvaQ

    ‘smokes!

    • Replies: @Kronos
    I’m sorry what?
    , @95Theses
    Sorry. That's my vocal abbreviation of Holy Smokes! or as in this instance Unholy Smokes!
  420. @The Alarmist
    Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/mischa-haider/headshot.jpg
  421. @Oscar Peterson
    Hay personifies the psychological wreckage of WASP America.

    The Germans have the only word that can describe my feeling on reading this: fremdschämen

    Thank you. I always appreciate introductions to words which are mot juste.

  422. @Anonymousse
    When things are dying suddenly it’s generally a good bet young black males are around.

    I don’t think they have any special animus toward transvestites, as Colin Flaherty extensively documented they are also known to kill asians, regular homosexuals, dogs, other blacks, the elderly, illegals, women, taxi drivers, shop employees, police officers and turtles.

    Colin of course is banned from everything for noticing this thing everyone already knows.

    Three cheers for the legendary Colin Flaherty! We owe an inconsiderable debt to that man for his courage and tenacity in exposing The Greatest Lie of Our Generation: The Myth of Black Victimization.

    Colin presents so great a threat to The Lie that Amazon felt it necessary to censor his latest book, Don’t Make The Black Kids Angry!

    … Although Barnes & Noble still carry it.

    https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/dont-make-the-black-kids-angry-mr-colin-flaherty/1121279324?ean=9781508585022

  423. @Ripple Earthdevil
    A Coen Brothers movie with William H. Macy as Bruce Hay.

    Already done, but by David Mamet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleanna_(film)

  424. @Bard of Bumperstickers
    Google " Jessica Yaniv Child Molester "

    And they've had trannies dressed as clowns teaching six-year-olds anal intercourse in public classrooms. That would've been an arrestable offense a few years ago.

    It's coming down that slippery slope.

    Wow. This is the second time in two nights my mind has been blown by a true story reading like a combination of a film by David Lynch adapting material by Thomas Harris.

    You all owe it to yourselves not to miss the audio of twenty-seven-year-old Yaniv’s chanting (to a fifteen-year-old girl) “Your boobies go up and down, up and down, up and down!” in the voice of Elmo (yes, that Elmo).

    Please send more. I’ve never been more transfixed by such train-wrecks in my life.

    I leave you with the words of commenter Jason W.:

    It puts the wax on the balls or else it faces litigation.

  425. @Alden
    The 50-50 thing doesn’t work either unless the parents live in the same school district and near each other. Then there’s the games played such as one parent never buying clothes sports equipment.

    In Noah Baumbach’s “The Squid and the Whale” the divorcing parents explain how joint custody will work with the boys spending half of each week and each parent’s apartment.

    “What about the cat.”

    “The cat will go back and forth too”

    “On the subway?”

  426. @95Theses
    'smokes!

    I’m sorry what?

  427. This article shows the difference on the Left between the True Believing Fools and the Hucksters. Hay is clearing a True Believer Fool whom these Hucksters targeted (among many like him) for their games.

    Fascinating (if you read the article) how they knew their marks so well — they targeted lonely, skinny, socially awkward Left-wing men with good paying jobs who were True Believers. Most Left wing activities are full of such men (minus the well-paying job parts) shy and retiring and unmasculine and afraid of their own masculinity (usually due to absentee father/broken home as a child), and so desperate for human connection they’ll believe anything.

    • Replies: @guest
    Maybe they just targeted men who didn't projectile vomit upon meeting the Sasquatch.
    , @TomSchmidt
    Astute observations. So long as the street-smart hustlers prey on only these types, they perform a service for us all.
  428. @Alden
    I agree that the universities and colleges should all be closed down. Leave the medical and law schools and admit the students at 18. The STEM schools can be renamed Polytechnics. Only STEM subjects taught.

    Probably send every full and part time law professor plus all former administrators consultants coordinators analysts directors assistant directors off to an arctic gulag.

    Alden wrote to me:

    I agree that the universities and colleges should all be closed down. Leave the medical and law schools and admit the students at 18. The STEM schools can be renamed Polytechnics. Only STEM subjects taught.

    Yeah.

    I should make clear that her experience in the UCLA School of Engineering has generally been positive. She is also a pianist/composer (and is paid to play her own compositions at the on-campus Conference Center) and has generally had good experiences with the School of Music. Both the engineering profs and the music profs know what their mission is and seem, on the whole, to be seriously pursuing it.

    The problem is a lot (not all) of the faculty in the “College of Letters and Sciences”and, above all, the University-wide administrators.

    Hayek titled one of his chapters in The Road to Serfdom: “Why the Worst Get on Top.” He might have been thinking of current administrators in American universities.

  429. @AnotherDad

    So my unspoken policy is to have no extra-curricular interactions with the afore-mentioned categories. No beers after class, no personal conversation – I just maintain a polite and professional distance, physically and emotionally.
     
    American women have been so steeped in the minoritarian narrative of "oppression" they seem to have lost all reason. This male response to #MeToo is entirely predictable, but women lack even the one step reasoning to predict it.

    I'm a guy, i'm not claiming navigating life as a girl is easy. But if you're sporting a couple X chromosomes, then that's you job, so just do it directly:

    If you've been raped, go to the police.

    If a guy gives you an undesired grope--smack him.

    If a guy makes an undesired request for a date, or other romance--turn him down politely and sympathetically--it's actually a compliment to your feminity--but explicitly.

    It's obvious to me, that a lot of women do not deal male romantic interest explicitly because they want to milk it to get favors, special treatment etc. Sorry. You don't have that have-my-cake-and-eat-it-too privilege. If you want males--or a male--to stop X, Y, Z, then be clear and stop it.

    ~~

    The #MeToo path we're on, fewer women will find male mentors, fewer women will be "in the loop" with male colleagues, fewer women will get asked out--especially by the guy they want and fewer women will get married and fewer will have the life and the babies they wanted.

    Which perhaps was the point of those pushing it.

    AD-

    The milking you point out is not always consciously done by the woman. There are many, many men who, for one reason or another, misinterpret friendly, open behavior from women as a sign of genuine romantic interest.

    Possibly a design flaw in humans, or possibly a cosmic joke, one that is getting very old.

    • Agree: jim jones
  430. @guest
    Obviously men are taken in by women. But in this particular case, one of them wasn't even a woman. He didn't even get an orgasm out of the deal.

    I realize confidence tricksters say marks "beg for it," but it's almost as if instead of profiting off the relationships his upside was being taken advantage of. And how do you not exploit that?

    Every time he's confronted with betrayal or manipulation, it's all "but they're mentally unwell!" Well, yeah. That's why they're trying to steal your house.

    Hay’s weirdly glowing, sycophantic descriptions of the hideous tranny as his life’s muse are another huge tell that he is not the 100% USDA grade A heterosexual male that he, and many here, want to believe that he is.

  431. @AnotherDad

    Yeah, that’s ridiculous. What I can’t understand about AD here is why he (or any man) would want sex which isn’t freely and eagerly shared.

    How is it a turn-on if the other part has to be compelled, cajoled, required, rented? Doesn’t that imply something pretty unfortunate about your own appeal?
     
    Hammer, you don't seem to understand my point.

    My point is that in a marriage the sex is supposed to be "freely and eagerly" shared.

    The guy precisely should *not* have to be cajoling it out of the gal. If the gal is saying "no" or playing games--"when you take me to Cancun", "when you buy me some jewelry"--then it isn't a marriage. It's a bunch of manipulative b.s. no guy--worth his salt--should put up with. The gal--and guy--signed up for "freely and eagerly" when she married. If she didn't want that--don't marry and keep your grubby hands off his paycheck.

    Usually when a guy isn't getting the sex he wants in a relationship it is because the woman no longer feels respect for the guy ... and the relationship is done.


    There is/was something deeply weird about this Hays character's "relationship" with his "wife". Not party to the details/speculating seems like he lost her respect long, long ago--and they divorced--but she wanted him around for financial reasons and would occasional roll in the hay with him--presumably when she got horny enough to need it--to help keep him around. I have an extremely low opinion of the guy--especially given his IQ--but still he should have wanted/demanded better for himself.

    He’s on anti-depressants and it seems as likely that he is the one who is turning down the ex-wife’s sexual requests. Think Married With Children and Al Bundy. Or it’s mutual.

  432. @everybodyhatesscott
    I went through a rough patch about 10 years ago and got on an SSRI for a few weeks. It makes it pretty much impossible to finish. I decided I'd rather be depressed and stopped taking it.

    I went through a rough patch about 10 years ago and got on an SSRI for a few weeks. It makes it pretty much impossible to finish. I decided I’d rather be depressed and stopped taking it.

    Those things do more harm than good.

  433. @R.G. Camara
    This article shows the difference on the Left between the True Believing Fools and the Hucksters. Hay is clearing a True Believer Fool whom these Hucksters targeted (among many like him) for their games.

    Fascinating (if you read the article) how they knew their marks so well -- they targeted lonely, skinny, socially awkward Left-wing men with good paying jobs who were True Believers. Most Left wing activities are full of such men (minus the well-paying job parts) shy and retiring and unmasculine and afraid of their own masculinity (usually due to absentee father/broken home as a child), and so desperate for human connection they'll believe anything.

    Maybe they just targeted men who didn’t projectile vomit upon meeting the Sasquatch.

  434. @Mr McKenna
    Good point. I wonder how many Trans-Americans met up with Untimely Deaths in, say, 1920 or 1930?

    Is that a dig at Harry Houdini?

  435. @Jim Don Bob
    That kind of stubbornness didn't work out too well for Oberlin which today was ordered to post a $36+ million dollar bond.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/07/oberlin-college-ordered-to-post-36-million-bond-to-delay-gibsons-bakery-collection-of-judgment/

    Yeah, JDB. I sent my note of support to Gibson’s a month or so ago.

    Try Margaret Soltan’s University Diaries blog for an insider’s view of the academy. If she’s not your cuppa, she has a blogroll of other insiders’ sites. There’s the Pope Center’s Clarion Call newsletter, sort of conservative and libertarian. If you find yourself at first disbelieving what you’re reading about the hinky stuff behind the university gates, well, you’re growing.

    If I were dictator of America, I’d cut higher education immediately by 80%, and consider it a service to the people.

  436. @95Theses
    'smokes!

    Sorry. That’s my vocal abbreviation of Holy Smokes! or as in this instance Unholy Smokes!

  437. @Kronos
    “it’s a good thing most critical engineering doesn’t come out of these places.”

    Where are some places in the US? Any thoughts on Chinese universities?

    Harvey Mudd College
    The California (Massachusetts, Georgia…) Institutes of Technology
    Carnegie-Mellon University
    The Universities of Washington, Illinois, Michigan, California…
    The Johns Hopkins University (for medicine, biology and related sciences)

    There are a lot. The Ivy League, though, is not the beat place for studying and research in science and engineering.

    Europe has RTWH Aachan, ETH Zurich, Imperial College London (and Oxbridge), Delft University….

    China is a nutty place because it is so corrupt and so much of their science and engineering relies upon the theft of intellectual property and similar shenanigans. They have solid universities doing interesting work, but its harder to sort the wheat from the chaff.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    Thx man!
  438. @AnotherDad

    Better yet, don’t get married, don’t date, don’t associate with women, don’t advise any men who do any of those things.
     
    Huh? That's great advice to give to the low IQ, illegals, muzzies and other hostile immigrant invaders.

    For competent middle class American men, there is no alternative but trying to navigate the mess that is American womanhood and finding one of high character who wants to be a wife and mother.

    As unpleasant as they are as a class, i'm convinced that a lot of them are redeemable by men ... who are manly and forthrightly state what they are looking for and how things are going to be. Afterall, we're talking about girls here. They are natural followers and unfortunately they have been propagandized from birth by Hollyweird, the schools, academia, etc. But their bodies are still telling them something else, and strong confident men can bring them around.

    Or at least i sure as hell hope so ... or the minoritarian cancer has already triumphed.

    “For competent middle class American men, there is no alternative but trying to navigate the mess that is American womanhood and finding one of high character who wants to be a wife and mother.”

    American womanhood is not the mess that you think it is.

    “i’m convinced that a lot of them are redeemable by men … who are manly and forthrightly state what they are looking for and how things are going to be.”

    Actually, how things are going to be in the relationship is decided by the couple themselves, not by the man or woman.

    “Afterall, we’re talking about girls here.”

    Is Epstein your idol?

    ” They are natural followers and unfortunately they have been propagandized from birth by
    Hollyweird, the schools, academia, etc. But their bodies are still telling them something else, and strong confident men can bring them around.”

    Actually, strong confident men work together with strong confident women.

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  439. @Alden
    I agree that the universities and colleges should all be closed down. Leave the medical and law schools and admit the students at 18. The STEM schools can be renamed Polytechnics. Only STEM subjects taught.

    Probably send every full and part time law professor plus all former administrators consultants coordinators analysts directors assistant directors off to an arctic gulag.

    Leave the law schools?

    For a very long time, lost schools served as one of the chief sources of funding for university administrations. It turns out that running the law school is highly probable: you pay one professor about three or $400,000 a year to stand in front of the room and Yell at people. You only have to pay to fund the law library; unlike medical school, there are no labs or other important physical infrastructure.

    Now that enrollment is down, however, law schools have become black holes of debt, with tenured lawyers as professors, so that they cannot be fired. So, maybe you’re correct: leave them open and bleed out the administrators.

    • Replies: @Anon

    lost schools
     
    Are you using a speech-to-text synthesizer? If you are, it's pretty good.

    OTish

    You only have to pay to fund the law library; unlike medical school, there are no labs or other important physical infrastructure.
     
    Old joke:

    Dean, to the physics department. "Why do I always have to give you guys so much money, for laboratories and expensive equipment and stuff. Why couldn't you be like the math department - all they need is money for pencils, paper and waste-paper baskets. Or even better, like the philosophy department. All they need are pencils and paper."
     
    (at consc.net/misc/mpp-joke.html)
  440. @R.G. Camara
    This article shows the difference on the Left between the True Believing Fools and the Hucksters. Hay is clearing a True Believer Fool whom these Hucksters targeted (among many like him) for their games.

    Fascinating (if you read the article) how they knew their marks so well -- they targeted lonely, skinny, socially awkward Left-wing men with good paying jobs who were True Believers. Most Left wing activities are full of such men (minus the well-paying job parts) shy and retiring and unmasculine and afraid of their own masculinity (usually due to absentee father/broken home as a child), and so desperate for human connection they'll believe anything.

    Astute observations. So long as the street-smart hustlers prey on only these types, they perform a service for us all.

  441. @AnotherDad
    sCR, on 2nd read of Moses and your response right in a row, i realize i misread your comment.

    Still, i don't agree. I don't think Moses is off base.

    A carefully executed pre-nup isn't a terrible idea, even if the courts end up brushing it aside. It should be part of a couple making sure they have the same expectations. And bringing it up--airing out those expectation--for a guy can be incredibly useful in smoking out girls who really don't get it--aren't willing to be a wife and mother--and avoiding marrying them.

    If a girl can't handle pre-nup talk, expectations talk puncturing her image of "her special day" ... pass.

    Pre-nups are for people on a 2nd or 3rd marriage who have children and property to protect. A first time couple should be talking about all the expectations and counseling with other adults as to what those expectations mean.

    Moses made it sound like he’s anticipating being cheated and fleeced. If that’s the level of his dis-trust, he shouldn’t be making a marriage contract.

  442. @Thoughts
    This whole 'Expert in one thing' and unable to know anything else is b.s.

    That's not how the human brain works.

    It's simply not possible to have a 132+ IQ in one subject, and not notice other things in the world.

    This prof is probably 110 ish IQ at best.

    he’s probably extremely smart, but equally brainwashed. Same way a smart person can believe communism can work despite 100% failure rate with millions dead. Some people have mental blocks where they don’t subject certain beliefs to appropriate scrutiny.

  443. Anon[152] • Disclaimer says:
    @TomSchmidt
    Leave the law schools?

    For a very long time, lost schools served as one of the chief sources of funding for university administrations. It turns out that running the law school is highly probable: you pay one professor about three or $400,000 a year to stand in front of the room and Yell at people. You only have to pay to fund the law library; unlike medical school, there are no labs or other important physical infrastructure.

    Now that enrollment is down, however, law schools have become black holes of debt, with tenured lawyers as professors, so that they cannot be fired. So, maybe you're correct: leave them open and bleed out the administrators.

    lost schools

    Are you using a speech-to-text synthesizer? If you are, it’s pretty good.

    OTish

    You only have to pay to fund the law library; unlike medical school, there are no labs or other important physical infrastructure.

    Old joke:

    Dean, to the physics department. “Why do I always have to give you guys so much money, for laboratories and expensive equipment and stuff. Why couldn’t you be like the math department – all they need is money for pencils, paper and waste-paper baskets. Or even better, like the philosophy department. All they need are pencils and paper.”

    (at consc.net/misc/mpp-joke.html)

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    Egregious! Yes, lost schools, and "probable," which should be profitable, were mis-transcriptions. Wasn't on my regular computer with God's own input device, the keyboard.

    thanks for the gentle correction.
  444. @Harry Baldwin
    The article about Hay says "he leans left politically."

    No one is an actual leftist, they just "lean left." No one "leans right," they're "far right" or a "right-winger." I'm pretty sure these usages are set forth in the journalists' style guide.

    True that.

    I have friends who are so far left that I know how they are going to land on every single issue before they (invariably) enlighten me on their position. And to a person, they describe themselves as being “slightly left-of-center”.

    These people, in fact, provide a service for me. If I’m not certain how I feel about a societal issue, I just ask them. I know their opinion is ridiculous, irresponsible, and poorly thought out, and immediately take the opposite position.

  445. Witness the birth of a meme.

    • Replies: @eah
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EAaskvxXYAAgQW7.jpg
    , @Vinteuil
    There really is no end to this that stops short of blood-letting.
  446. @eah
    Witness the birth of a meme.

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1154512549703847936

  447. @Anon

    lost schools
     
    Are you using a speech-to-text synthesizer? If you are, it's pretty good.

    OTish

    You only have to pay to fund the law library; unlike medical school, there are no labs or other important physical infrastructure.
     
    Old joke:

    Dean, to the physics department. "Why do I always have to give you guys so much money, for laboratories and expensive equipment and stuff. Why couldn't you be like the math department - all they need is money for pencils, paper and waste-paper baskets. Or even better, like the philosophy department. All they need are pencils and paper."
     
    (at consc.net/misc/mpp-joke.html)

    Egregious! Yes, lost schools, and “probable,” which should be profitable, were mis-transcriptions. Wasn’t on my regular computer with God’s own input device, the keyboard.

    thanks for the gentle correction.

  448. @CCZ
    Mischa appears as “Misha Haider-Syed” alongside of Maria-Pia Shuman, in the acknowledgments of the following 2012 Harvard University PhD dissertation “First-Principles Multiscale Investigation of Structural and Chemical Defects in Metals” written by Georg Schusteritsch.

    “...all the friends I was able to make and get to know. This particularly includes Charbel Madi, Hao Shuo, Misha Haider-Syed, Maria-Pia Shuman, Sungkun Hong, Sahand Hormoz and Tzahi Cohen-Karni. I am probably most indebted to my family...”

    Does "Misha Haider-Syed" imply a previous marriage??

    Syed is an honorific title denoting people accepted as descendants of the Islamic prophet Muhammad. Given all the other craziness going on in this story, and the fact that this guy later dropped the title, I wonder if it was just another borrowed identity.

  449. @eah
    Witness the birth of a meme.

    https://twitter.com/RitaPanahi/status/1154512549703847936

    There really is no end to this that stops short of blood-letting.

  450. @Autochthon
    Harvey Mudd College
    The California (Massachusetts, Georgia...) Institutes of Technology
    Carnegie-Mellon University
    The Universities of Washington, Illinois, Michigan, California...
    The Johns Hopkins University (for medicine, biology and related sciences)

    There are a lot. The Ivy League, though, is not the beat place for studying and research in science and engineering.

    Europe has RTWH Aachan, ETH Zurich, Imperial College London (and Oxbridge), Delft University....

    China is a nutty place because it is so corrupt and so much of their science and engineering relies upon the theft of intellectual property and similar shenanigans. They have solid universities doing interesting work, but its harder to sort the wheat from the chaff.

    Thx man!

  451. @JackOH
    PhysicistDave, my local state university, which I know well, will obstinately defend itself at great cost against legal action, even when the final judgment or settlement shows the university was in the wrong and knew it was in the wrong, or that a settlement reached earlier would likely have been the wiser and less costly course of action.

    Why the stubbornness? My reasonably informed guess is that administrators and in-house counsel are aware that there are chronic problem departments and individuals that present with potentially criminal or civilly actionable behavior. Bureaucratic inertia protects those problem departments and individuals year after year. When a specific criminal charge or specific civil action against the university happens, there's a real feeling the university has to fight like hell to protect itself not just against the specific complaint, but also against the possibility of other misconduct in other areas of the university being revealed.

    Your theories are incompatible. There’s no discovery quite like the wholesome goodness of discovery for a trial. People with things to hide settle, and they settle quickly and happily. The last thing anyone with all kinds of shenanigans to hide needs is a pile of interrogatories, clever litigators deposing witnesses, and an order to hand over all kinds of electronic mail, text-messages, and similar records, almost certain to contain some evidence about the misbehaviour, if only by dint of a careless communication here or there that points to smoking guns – and that’s before the ruthless cross examinations in open court.

    I don’t doubt your point about refusals to settle, but it’s not done because of a drive to hide shenanigans; it’s true stupidity, arrogance even, from True Believers.

  452. Autochthon, they’re the university’s theories.

  453. @Autochthon
    Is Dalrock still around? He might be what tou have in mind....

    He’s always been solid.

  454. @The Alarmist
    Mischa Haider, posted w/o further comment:

    http://s.huffpost.com/contributors/mischa-haider/headshot.jpg

    Damn! She hot!

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