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A recurrent subject here at iSteve over the years has been the career of Chris Sailer, who graduated from Notre Dame H.S. in Sherman Oaks, CA 18 years after I did. (We’re not closely related — the name Sailer is a little more common than you might think.) A legendary high school football field goal kicker and an All-American at UCLA, Sailer didn’t make it in the NFL. But he has since revolutionized placekicking tutoring in ways that offer a variety of insights into more general trends in our society.
From the NYT:
Skill Level of N.F.L. Kickers? It’s Good. Really Good.
By JOE LEMIRE DEC. 24, 2014At 42, Indianapolis Colts kicker Adam Vinatieri is one game away from becoming the fourth kicker in N.F.L. history to convert every single kick over a full season. He has made all 47 extra points and all 28 field goals, including three of at least 50 yards.
Yet it is the overall rate of success these days that is truly intriguing. This season, N.F.L. kickers have converted 62.5 percent of field-goal attempts beyond 50 yards. In Vinatieri’s rookie season, in 1996, that 62.5 percent rate was roughly the league standard on kicks between 40 and 49 yards. Twenty years before that, in the 1970s, kicks between 30 and 39 yards were made that often.
… Kickers have been successful on 83.9 percent of all field-goal attempts this season, the third-highest rate on record, trailing only last year’s 86.5 percent and 2008’s 84.5 percent. The 11 seasons with the highest rates are the 11 most recent seasons. …
My guess would be that fan excitement is maximized when the chance of success or failure is around 50-50 rather than today’s 84-16. George Blanda won an MVP in 1970 as a backup quarterback and placekicker, in part because field goal kicking was so hit or miss that any hits made the kicker look heroic rather than merely competent.
Of the top 15 kickers in career field-goal percentage, 12 are active. The most accurate kicker in league history is the Baltimore Ravens’ Justin Tucker (89.6 percent). Tucker is one-tenth of one percentage point ahead of the Dallas Cowboys’ Dan Bailey, who until Sunday was alone above 90 percent for his career; a 52-yard miss put him in second place, at 89.5 percent.
… The pivotal step in his development — as with most younger kickers — was attending a privately run camp, run by Chris Sailer Kicking. Sailer, 37, a two-time all-American kicker and punter at U.C.L.A., has become the nation’s pre-eminent kicking instructor; he says 13 of the 32 starting N.F.L. kickers attended his camps. …
When Sailer went to U.C.L.A. in 1995, he was one of about a dozen kickers and punters to have a scholarship, he estimated. Vinatieri had a partial grant to Division II South Dakota State in the early 1990s. Now, the majority of Division I programs offer scholarships for specialists, all of them full rides, with camps and showcases helping college coaches recruit because wind does not appear on game film.
… Also valuable to kickers has been a concurrent increase in scholarships for long snappers, and Sailer’s kicking camp has a companion run by the former U.C.L.A. long snapper Chris Rubio.
… Folk raved about the precision of his long snapper, Tanner Purdum, who monitors the rotations and velocity of his snaps. Likening the ball to a clock face, Folk said the ideal was for his holder to receive the ball with the laces on top, in the 12 o’clock position, so that he could set the ball straight down without adjustment.
The NFL is vastly profitable at the moment so it has few incentives to innovate with the rules. (It has been experimenting with the Pro Bowl all-star game to make it more interesting.) But it’s about time to try out new rules to make kicking less of a sure thing that only draws attention to placekickers when they fail.
It would be pretty easy to bring together, say, 8 top NFL placekickers during the off-season for a TV trashsport in which they compete at various feats of strength and skill involving potential kicking challenges that could someday be incorporated in the rules: kicking field goals and extra points from extreme angles; kicking with higher cross bars; kicking with a top to the goal like in soccer so kicks must be kept lower; dropkicking; bending kicks in the manner of David Beckham; making the goal a netted rectangle 8 to 18 feet off the ground and let the other kicker play goaltender, and so forth.
Let the experts try these goofball ideas out and see what the public likes.
One problem with kicking competitions is that they require about half a football stadium, and that makes for some glum television if the stadium is empty and silent. However, big football crowds do assemble during the off-season in college football stadiums for the spring intra-team scrimmages that help determine who will start in the fall. Alabama and Auburn, for example, come close to filling their stadiums with their most ardent fans in the spring. An ESPN off-season trashsport could probably piggyback off those crowds who would likely happily show up early or stay late to cheer an hour-long kicking contest involving top NFL kickers trying out oddball challenges.
I have never understood why American Football doesn’t use the system in rugby where the kick after the try is taken directly behind where the try was scored. This means that it makes a big difference where the try is scored and incentivises players to touch down as close to goals as possible. It seems very easy in gridiron where every kick is taken from in front of goal. Rugby could also think of borrowing American Football’s option of running the conversion to gain an extra point than the usual 2 for the conversion.
I’m in.
College hashmarks.
Crossbar one foot higher.
Dropkicks past the line-of-scrimmage are 4 points.
A year or two ago, a 47-year old Sacramento radio talk show host went out to the local college with a camera crew, and kicked a 45 yard field goal. But then he’s also a scratch golfer, so at least he’s a real athlete.
“I have never understood why American Football doesn’t use the system in rugby where the kick after the try is taken directly behind where the try was scored.”
You can’t make a legal formation from the edge of the field.
Can we stop with this stupid suggestion?
http://footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=470050Replies: @Steve Johnson
Easy.
My suggestion is tighten up the uprights. The NFL could hire a bunch of interns to watch every game film for the past 4 or 5 seasons and map each kick’s distance from dead-center. (Image processing technology being what it is, they could probably write software to do it as well.)
With that data in-hand, they could determine exactly what length of crossbar would result in a 50% success rate. They could even have indoor and outdoor crossbars. They could also figure out which kickers are going to most effected, something Vegas might be interested in enough to pay to discretely reproduce the analysis.
Steve Sailer, what about rules changes to prevent concussions? I’m surprised this hasn’t gotten more traction.
Concussions weren’t an issue when rosters were smaller and athletes played both sides of the ball.
I still don’t understand why NFL won’t hire top professional soccer players to do the kicks. With no agility required, lots of top players around the world should be able to do it into their early 40s. These are the guys with talent that enables them to reliably put a soccer ball into an empty goal across the whole field (~100 yards.) Hey, Thierry Henry has just retired – he probably won’t mind a job of an easy free kick once in a while. Or David Beckham, for that matter:
Yes, the NFL could narrow the goal posts & raise the cross bar. The game would still look the same for the traditionalists which is important to them. But the stats nerds would have a cow because it would mess with continuity.
But I think there is something to be said for the fifty yard field goals. Miss a long field goal and you give your opponent excellent field position. Hard to argue against a potential 6 to 10 points swing in the score.
Just look at the Eagles’ playoff hopes imploding due to the Redskins scoring after two missed field goals that were in the 35-45 yard range.
QUOTE== a privately run camp, run by Chris Sailer Kicking. ==UNQUOTE
So Chris is so devoted to his craft (or self-promotional) that he legally changed his name from “Chris Sailer” to “Chris Sailer Kicking”. (The NYT wouldn’t get this detail wrong, would they?)
Steve, any thoughts on the arrest of Dustin Diamond?
Theres nothing exciting about an extra point, even from a difficult angle or 40 yards out. Im not a punter/kicker hater, but the noise the ball makes when it hits the crossbar is just about the only thing a kicker does that I enjoy. Just keep the PAT as is and make the 2 point conversion a 3 point conversion from the 4 or 5 yard line.
Move the hash marks back out to where they used to be for a start. It will make regular plays more interesting also.
The NFL needs to make our New Americans (our illegal aliens) into football fans (consumers). So institute a fifth period in the middle that is pure soccer (Fútbol). Get the bulked up NFL guys playing soccer. This would also lead to national unity. Would end divisiveness.
You can't make a legal formation from the edge of the field.
Can we stop with this stupid suggestion?Replies: @ben tillman, @Taco
Sure you can. You can have unbalanced lines in the NFL, and an end can snap the ball. Here’s a pic of the Dolphins doing it:
http://footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=470050
That is wild.
I knew that the edges of the line had to be covered by eligible receivers but didn't know that the center could report eligible.
Aren’t there enough ‘trashsports’ already? Does the sports world really need another weird idea foisted on it? Hell, let’s make it an Olympic sport while we’re at it – just to avoid the debate and clamor later on.
OT: Ferguson PD reads isteve:
“The Washington Post is making a call over this?”
Michael Brown memorial destroyed overnight:
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OT:
Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie are raising their daughter as a boy.
Steve, you are “The Big Sailer”, Chris is merely the “the mentionable Sailer”.
You can't make a legal formation from the edge of the field.
Can we stop with this stupid suggestion?Replies: @ben tillman, @Taco
An NFL field is about 53 yards wide. In college, the hash marks are about 20 yards from the sidelines. Move the hash marks, say, another 8 yards closer, to about 12-15 yards from the sideline. They could even leave the original hash marks and only use the wider hash marks for extra point attempts.
Easy.
Instead of changing the PAT/Field Goal rules, since many teams now are trying and making critical goals from a fair distance (>50 yards) in late-game situations, filled with tension, change the rule for drop kicks.
Make a drop kick field goal worth say, 5 points. Not as much as a touch down but something to juice the Red Zone offense by making defenders be wary of the drop kick (taking away at least one defender from the secondary to be a gunner at a potential drop kicker).
Yeah, 30 yard field goals are gimmes. But there is a quantitative difference between a first quarter gimme and say, the 49ers/Chargers overtime long distance field goal last week. Which was exciting and capped one heck of a game.
Right now I’d say that the problem is good defenses can stifle all but the most talented offenses in the Red Zone when good but not outstanding offenses lose a few key players late in the season. Say the Patriots without Gronkowski. Having a drop kick worth five points (no conversion) means a close game becomes more interesting. Said offense may just quick-kick to catch the defense off guard, betting they can force a turnover on downs or pick and score again.
Also, more teams should quick kick, ala Red Sanders UCLA teams, to pin an opponent near the goal line to force a safety or field position switch. Faster paced like Rugby.
The drop kick field goal is a relic from an era when the football itself was rounder.
Footballs were made skinnier and more aerodynamic several times over the decades to promote the forward pass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_pass#Change_in_ball_shape.
Drop kicking a modern football from even extra point distance is a low percentage stunt by the best of athletes, Doug Flutie being THE extremely rare exception.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#American_and_Canadian_.28gridiron.29_football.
No drop kick will ever be as exciting as the toe touch back of the endzone touchdown.Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Whiskey
“kicking with a top to the goal like in soccer so kicks must be kept lower”
This reminds me of one of Adam Carolla’s frequent gripes, that the ball goes above the uprights so it’s hard to tell if a kick near an upright is good or not. He suggests raising the uprights, but the upper-crossbar idea would make it more interesting, IMO.
“Hell, let’s make it an Olympic sport while we’re at it ”
Not until after the Olympics bring back the Plunge for Distance.
With that data in-hand, they could determine exactly what length of crossbar would result in a 50% success rate. They could even have indoor and outdoor crossbars. They could also figure out which kickers are going to most effected, something Vegas might be interested in enough to pay to discretely reproduce the analysis.Replies: @Steve Sailer
You could have adjustable goalposts, with an extra point for narrow uprights. Let the head coach call for narrow or wide immediately before the field goal. Coaches would love having another decision they could screw up.
It’s interesting to note what rule changes fans would like to see in the sports they are already watching:
Football fans: make kicking harder/get rid of it; ; bring back kickoff returns; punish players who injure others; get rid of the QB-protection rules; no hotdogging /more hotdogging allowed (a split amongst fans).
Basketball fans: get rid of the 3-point shot; call more fouls/call fewer fouls (this will get basketball fans at each other’s throats); call the travel again.
Baseball fans: limit the pitching changes; limit the time between pitches; get rid of the DH/DH in both leagues (another fight that will get hardcore fans arguing);
Hockey: permanent four-on-four action; more fighting; limit on equipment size; don’t punish the goons, punish the claude lemieux-type dirty players.
I discern no pattern, except that fans of each sport want their sports to return to some previous era’s strengths: football wants more action and less specialized strategy; baseball wants faster games; hockey wants the clutch-and-grab gone; basketball wants its superstar-protection-system removed.
Make a drop kick field goal worth say, 5 points. Not as much as a touch down but something to juice the Red Zone offense by making defenders be wary of the drop kick (taking away at least one defender from the secondary to be a gunner at a potential drop kicker).
Yeah, 30 yard field goals are gimmes. But there is a quantitative difference between a first quarter gimme and say, the 49ers/Chargers overtime long distance field goal last week. Which was exciting and capped one heck of a game.
Right now I'd say that the problem is good defenses can stifle all but the most talented offenses in the Red Zone when good but not outstanding offenses lose a few key players late in the season. Say the Patriots without Gronkowski. Having a drop kick worth five points (no conversion) means a close game becomes more interesting. Said offense may just quick-kick to catch the defense off guard, betting they can force a turnover on downs or pick and score again.
Also, more teams should quick kick, ala Red Sanders UCLA teams, to pin an opponent near the goal line to force a safety or field position switch. Faster paced like Rugby.Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
Make a drop kick field goal worth say, 5 points
The drop kick field goal is a relic from an era when the football itself was rounder.
Footballs were made skinnier and more aerodynamic several times over the decades to promote the forward pass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_pass#Change_in_ball_shape.
Drop kicking a modern football from even extra point distance is a low percentage stunt by the best of athletes, Doug Flutie being THE extremely rare exception.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#American_and_Canadian_.28gridiron.29_football.
No drop kick will ever be as exciting as the toe touch back of the endzone touchdown.
But if Football is going to be a collection of uber-specialists, why not embrace it? Surely there can be guys who can skillfully drop kick a ball through the uprights, Flutie style, and do a few other things good enough (block, pass, run) that the essence of Football, the skill and toughness of combined skills not just pure athletic ability could pull to the game's strengths -- strategy.
After all, a good deal of the game's appeal is to play second-guess coach -- go for the more points of the two point conversion, or take the sure PAT? Gamble on an onside kick, "deception" pass play, or choose field position with a punt? Its the options and combined cerebral chess game with violent collisions and skill as much a pure running speed and strength that made the game.
Flutie style players being skilled not athletic would also make the game a bit Whiter, surely a plus given how Black the game has become over-emphasizing just speed and strength over say, blocking skill combined with pass catching ability (look at the new found popularity of tight ends combining these attributes).Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
The drop kick field goal is a relic from an era when the football itself was rounder.
Footballs were made skinnier and more aerodynamic several times over the decades to promote the forward pass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_pass#Change_in_ball_shape.
Drop kicking a modern football from even extra point distance is a low percentage stunt by the best of athletes, Doug Flutie being THE extremely rare exception.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#American_and_Canadian_.28gridiron.29_football.
No drop kick will ever be as exciting as the toe touch back of the endzone touchdown.Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Whiskey
Make a drop kick field goal worth say, 5 points
We also forget that just about the most exciting play in NFL football that keeps the home team fans in their seats until the clock runs out is the “Hail Mary”… It is also compared to the Drop Kick the higher percentage play.
Adjustable goal posts? Maybe. Pro, College and extra point settings? Perhaps. Drop Kick? Fuhgettaboutit!!!
Thinking about bringing the Drop Kick, as opposed to appreciating the Forward Pass, is to say the least, extremely reactionary.
Football pools require a lot of field goals to give people with numbers other than zero, four and seven a chance to win so I’d leave the FG alone. What bothers me is that most NFL kickoffs are so high and deep into the end zone they aren’t returned. The 100 yard kickoff return seems to have vanished from the game even though it was perhaps the most exciting play of all. It also made it a good idea to have your kicker be a real football player too as he might be the last guy with a chance to make the tackle. No Pete Gogolak types squealing ” I keeck a touchdown”.
My hunch is the NFL is happy to have touchbacks ( and fair catches) as the mayhem of kickoff and punt returns with the potential for serious injuries is avoided but there was something appealing about a ball carrier just getting leveled by a guy with a fourty or fifty yard head of steam on him blindsiding a runner and the inevitable fumble.
“Drop kicking a modern football from even extra point distance is a low percentage stunt by the best of athletes”: have they tried out rugby players as drop-kickers?
What killed the drop kick were the changes in the football to promote the forward pass. Modern footballs are really hard to drop kick. Any kid who tried it his backyard knows this. Usually the ball goes sideways if not backwards.
I think punting is hard enough already.
Perhaps this would be more obvious to everyone if we call it Armball or Throwball instead of Football.
Besides "Hail Mary's" beat drop kicks any day.
Very surprised no one here has mentioned “The Kick.” Wikipedia says:
(Alabama) Tiffin’s most notable kick came in the 1985 Iron Bowl against in-state rival Auburn. His 52-yard field goal lifted the Crimson Tide to a 25–23 victory as time expired.
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Tiffin’s post Kick life has been lucrative. He takes buses and dresses them up for people like Boone Pickens.
http://tiffinmotorhomes.com/about-mobile
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I say 2-1 they find that Jackie told the truth.
Solution #1. Get rid of the holder. The player who receives the snap must be the one who kicks it. It’s a much more challenging (and interesting to watch) task to be able to catch a long snap and quickly punt it through the posts, than simply kick a ball being held for you.
Solution #2. Get rid of kickers. Make it a rule that the kick must be taken by a player who was on the field during the preceding play. That would add a layer of intrigue. At 3rd and 2 on the 40-yard line, you might bring on a specialist kicker as, say, a wide receiver, so if you don’t get the first down, he can take the subsequent kick. Or would you go with the specialist wide receiver, keep the kicker off, and improve your chances of a producing a play that would get that 2 yards?
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Look at their majors.
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http://footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=470050Replies: @Steve Johnson
That is wild.
I knew that the edges of the line had to be covered by eligible receivers but didn’t know that the center could report eligible.
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Forget all those NFL rules. Have the field size be an option. No standard size for the hockey rink.
Narrow the uprights. 300 lb weight limit.
OT, Sailerbait:
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There aren’t any gop bigwigs in NY. It would be considered granstanding for a GOP hopeful to fly in. There was enough grandstanding dems to take up the slack.
The drop kick field goal is a relic from an era when the football itself was rounder.
Footballs were made skinnier and more aerodynamic several times over the decades to promote the forward pass.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_pass#Change_in_ball_shape.
Drop kicking a modern football from even extra point distance is a low percentage stunt by the best of athletes, Doug Flutie being THE extremely rare exception.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drop_kick#American_and_Canadian_.28gridiron.29_football.
No drop kick will ever be as exciting as the toe touch back of the endzone touchdown.Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist, @Whiskey
A very good point, thanks.
But if Football is going to be a collection of uber-specialists, why not embrace it? Surely there can be guys who can skillfully drop kick a ball through the uprights, Flutie style, and do a few other things good enough (block, pass, run) that the essence of Football, the skill and toughness of combined skills not just pure athletic ability could pull to the game’s strengths — strategy.
After all, a good deal of the game’s appeal is to play second-guess coach — go for the more points of the two point conversion, or take the sure PAT? Gamble on an onside kick, “deception” pass play, or choose field position with a punt? Its the options and combined cerebral chess game with violent collisions and skill as much a pure running speed and strength that made the game.
Flutie style players being skilled not athletic would also make the game a bit Whiter, surely a plus given how Black the game has become over-emphasizing just speed and strength over say, blocking skill combined with pass catching ability (look at the new found popularity of tight ends combining these attributes).
If you look at punters the trend is already heading towards much better all around athletes who can also boom the ball deep and do directional kicking. Perfect example is my team, the Colts' all pro Pat McAfee. Also, three successful on side kicks, Pat also handles kick-offs. One he down himself. Last several tackles and a well executed, even if dropped, fake punt.
I can see rugby style punting coming to the NFL. The "Punt Option" could be in the NFL's future.
Once better concussion protecting helmets are developed the NFL has to go back to old kick-off yard lines. Kick-off returns are a too exciting part of the game. I miss them.Replies: @ben tillman
But if Football is going to be a collection of uber-specialists, why not embrace it? Surely there can be guys who can skillfully drop kick a ball through the uprights, Flutie style, and do a few other things good enough (block, pass, run) that the essence of Football, the skill and toughness of combined skills not just pure athletic ability could pull to the game's strengths -- strategy.
After all, a good deal of the game's appeal is to play second-guess coach -- go for the more points of the two point conversion, or take the sure PAT? Gamble on an onside kick, "deception" pass play, or choose field position with a punt? Its the options and combined cerebral chess game with violent collisions and skill as much a pure running speed and strength that made the game.
Flutie style players being skilled not athletic would also make the game a bit Whiter, surely a plus given how Black the game has become over-emphasizing just speed and strength over say, blocking skill combined with pass catching ability (look at the new found popularity of tight ends combining these attributes).Replies: @anonymous-antimarxist
Whiskey,
If you look at punters the trend is already heading towards much better all around athletes who can also boom the ball deep and do directional kicking. Perfect example is my team, the Colts’ all pro Pat McAfee. Also, three successful on side kicks, Pat also handles kick-offs. One he down himself. Last several tackles and a well executed, even if dropped, fake punt.
I can see rugby style punting coming to the NFL. The “Punt Option” could be in the NFL’s future.
Once better concussion protecting helmets are developed the NFL has to go back to old kick-off yard lines. Kick-off returns are a too exciting part of the game. I miss them.
they tried out rugby players as drop-kickers
What killed the drop kick were the changes in the football to promote the forward pass. Modern footballs are really hard to drop kick. Any kid who tried it his backyard knows this. Usually the ball goes sideways if not backwards.
I think punting is hard enough already.
Perhaps this would be more obvious to everyone if we call it Armball or Throwball instead of Football.
Besides “Hail Mary’s” beat drop kicks any day.
My hunch is the NFL is happy to have touchbacks ( and fair catches) as the mayhem of kickoff and punt returns with the potential for serious injuries is avoided but there was something appealing about a ball carrier just getting leveled by a guy with a fourty or fifty yard head of steam on him blindsiding a runner and the inevitable fumble.Replies: @I, Libertine
They moved the kickoff line up from the 30 to the 35 a couple of years ago for that explicit reason: fewer returns, fewer injuries. So your hunch is right.
@cariou, et al. Bring back the dropkick? C’mon, guys. They’d have to go back to the old shape of the ball. It would be harder to pass. They ain’t doin’ that.
If you look at punters the trend is already heading towards much better all around athletes who can also boom the ball deep and do directional kicking. Perfect example is my team, the Colts' all pro Pat McAfee. Also, three successful on side kicks, Pat also handles kick-offs. One he down himself. Last several tackles and a well executed, even if dropped, fake punt.
I can see rugby style punting coming to the NFL. The "Punt Option" could be in the NFL's future.
Once better concussion protecting helmets are developed the NFL has to go back to old kick-off yard lines. Kick-off returns are a too exciting part of the game. I miss them.Replies: @ben tillman
He can also throw it. That drop last week was brutal.
Been waiting years for McAfee to execute a fake punt. Decent enough throw, but there is reason defensive backs are on defence, their hands!!!!
Oh well, it will give opposing teams another thing to worry about in the future.Replies: @ben tillman
As an Indianapolis resident last week was brutal.
Been waiting years for McAfee to execute a fake punt. Decent enough throw, but there is reason defensive backs are on defence, their hands!!!!
Oh well, it will give opposing teams another thing to worry about in the future.
Been waiting years for McAfee to execute a fake punt. Decent enough throw, but there is reason defensive backs are on defence, their hands!!!!
Oh well, it will give opposing teams another thing to worry about in the future.Replies: @ben tillman
Speaking of punters and DBs, the great Jerrel Wilson played DB at Southern Miss (yes, he and Ray Guy played and punted at the same college) and intercepted 8 passes his senior year.
Simple rule change: only the player who scores the touchdown can take the PAT kick.
OK. How ’bout some good old-fashioned Affirmative Action set aside stuff. PAT kicked by female is worth 2 points, field goal 4 points.
LOL
Not until the Olympics bring back tug-a-war.