They are words I never expected to hear from a respected mainstream geneticist.

Hurry, get her to her fainting couch!

Follow the science man! Our science, which is the One True Science. Your science is pseudoscience. Because we say so!

Once you understand Leftist as a religion with only pretensions of being scientific (remember “scientific socialism” aka Communism) it all makes sense. Hanania is Luther and The Atlantic is the Inquisition.

https://www.bates.edu/faculty-expertise/profile/tyler-a-harper/
==
He’s a comparative literature maven that Bates College has employed as a professor of ‘environmental studies’.

The Atlantic Wants to Cancel Richard Hanania’s “The Origins of Woke”

It would follow that it’s likely that there’s something to be said for whoever ‘Richard Hanania’ is.

The Atlantic condemns you? That’s an even better endorsement than being mentioned by the ADL.

Hanania is like Michael Moore, a solid leftist with a leftist’s dedication to truth and consistency, but so reliant on contrarianism that he will sometimes blurt out the clearest and best assessment (cf Michael Moore’s explanation for Trump voters as a new Insulted and Injured). It is telling, and of a piece with the CNN thug who tried to get Joan Rivers to apologize for doubting Obama’s holiness, that there are this many leftist herdbeasts who don’t get the joke.

Full text of the Roth et al. paper available here.
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/ethnic-group-differences-in-cognitive-ability-in-employment.pdf

I like that Venter quote because it makes clear what he was and was not willing to say.

“There is no basis in scientific fact or in the human genetic code for the notion that skin color will be predictive of intelligence.”

I take it to mean skin color genetics are separate from intelligence genetics (e.g. SNPs involved). That seems reasonable. But I wonder what Venter thinks about correlations.

P.S. This might be worth a look. Though ultimately unsatisfying (see “The improbability of differential selection on intelligence across continents”).
http://www.wiringthebrain.com/2018/05/genetics-iq-and-race-are-genetic.html

Tyler Austin Harper:

Adam Serwer:

But on the other hand he does use “imbricated ” in his description of his research, so there’s that.

Harper looks like Aaron Rodgers let his beard grow out. Adam Serwer probably Jewish? So 2 nonwhites who can pass as white calling the Arab Hanania a white supremacist. What a time to be alive!
When are people going to realize all these nonwhites frantically lying about any facts that make whites look good are simply antiwhite bigots campaigning for the supremacy of their nonwhite group?

Harper wrote a good op-ed in the NYT this year in which he admits to probably being a big beneficiary of affirmative action…

Is there a whiter-sounding pair of names than Tyler and Austin? KJohn? Stephen?) Both Southern, and huge suburban fads in the ’90s. Reminds me of the white home-schooled girl in rural Washington who was inundated with catalogues from schools she didn’t ask for. Her name was Keziah.

The Atlantic should rename itself Mystery Meat.

Again, a paragraph full of footnotes and well-supported claims ends with a piece of bigotry unsupported by evidence.

I haven’t read the article. But from the quotes here, it seems the author is fond of noting that a “well-supported” paragraph (i.e., one with lots of footnotes) ends with an “unsupported” i.e. unfootnoted statement.

Isn’t that called “drawing a conclusion”?

But on the other hand he does use “imbricated ” in his description of his research, so there’s that.

Sample sentence from Oxford Languages: “A distinguishing feature of the echinoids is that the ossicles imbricate.”

There’s gotta be a song in that. Or at least an Ogden Nash verse.

Imbricate precisely what you mean to say
Yours sincerely, wasting away…

the cornerstorn of today’s conventional wisdom

Don’t you mean “cornersturm?”

Some of the many scholars working at intersections are going to get run over when the education bubble bursts.

The Ventner quote goes back 15 years to the Watson kerfuffle, when a bunch of genetics-adjacent personalities were releasing carefully crafted, email-only, no follow-up question responses to Amy Harmon and other journalists, just before embarking on sudden out-of-the-office trips making them hard to contact.

The pseudoscience of eugenics

That should be pseudoart. Eugenics is more comparable to medicine or animal husbandry.

Tyler doth protest too much. I’m sure he’s looked in a mirror and noticed his Caucasian features. I’m also sure he’s noticed that he’s operating at a different intellectual level from >99% of American blacks. But if those were connected…that would mean…no, too horrible to consider.

I could see reasonable people using the facts I publish to argue either way on policy questions.

Yes, reasonable, but unprincipled people, I can see that. I know you know what’s wrong about AA, as you spelled it out at least twice here.

Lack of principles in people is what got us to the state we’re in. Being reasonable will not cut it.

This claim, that white candidates would be likely to outscore Black candidates on intelligence tests, is not footnoted or otherwise supported with evidence.

LOL! Evidence? Haha!

I would do the whole “you sweet summer child” thing, but I know this guy knows better, as you gave that excerpt about his Sci-Fi lit classes. Almost EVERYBODY knows better. It’s common sense. Why would there even be AA, if this unfootnoted, unsubstantiated claim was not true?

“Funny guy!” – George Castanza

Tyler Austin Harper is a literary scholar working at the intersection of environmental studies, philosophy, and the history of science.

Tyler Austin Harper = Purely a 💩-ranter.

This sounds like nonsense arguing against nonsense, and going around in a circle. From Steve’s summary, here’s what’s apparently happened:

— Hannania mentioned the commonly known Black-White IQ Gap. So the woke dope at The Atlantic cries foul because Hannania doesn’t have a footnote citation showing there actually is such a gap. (Hannania has presumably provided a citation for this commonplace fact somewhere previously in his book, but doesn’t feel the need to repeat it ad nauseum, every time he refers to this obvious fact.)

— Next, the Atlantic woke dope admits that, okay, everyone and his mother knows there is a Black-White IQ gap. (Thus, negating his entire claim that Hannania claimed the existence of such a gap without evidence).

— Next, the Atlantic woke dope says that sure, everyone and his mother knows there is a Black-White IQ Gap, but all good thinkers know the gap is caused by environmental factors, not genetics. This is the real point wokeness cares about. If the gap is genetic, their whole “blame whitey” narrative fails and they lose the debate.

— Hannania apparently never claims in his book that the IQ gap is genetic. Nevertheless, the woke dope’s whole point is that referencing the (admitedly correct) IQ Gap is evil precisely because people might (corectly) infer that the IQ gap is genetic.

— The woke dope pretends to “debunk” the genetic explanation of IQ differences by the non-sequitur, red herring argument that race is a “social construct.” (Even if this were true, all evidence is that those ‘socially constructed’ as black have genetically lower IQs.)

— Steve weighs in to say good things about the woke dope, and about how moderate he (Steve) is on pro-black policies. He says he believes race is not just a ‘social construct’ but he is noncommital about whether the Black-White IQ Gap is genetic in origin.

Summary: Everyone agrees there is a Black-White IQ Gap. Everyone agrees that they won’t say that it’s genetic. Everyone agrees that they wont look at the actual overwhelming evidence that it is genetic. Everyone agrees that they will argue about nonsense, like whether race is a ‘social construct’ to distract from the real evidence that group IQ differences are genetic.

I guess it’s encouraging that there is so much elite social consensus on the key issue.

Steve, did you see this post by Adam Serwer where he gleefully admits civil rights and moral principles are just a way to screw over Anglo-Saxons?

you and the rest of the Amerikaners probably should have thought about that before building a system of government on the forced labor of non-whites while espousing an ideal of universal rights that would logically have to include us. Whoops!

— Adam Serwer 🍝 (@AdamSerwer) October 25, 2019

“…boys still outnumber girls by more than about 3-to-1 at extremely high levels of math ability and scientific reasoning.

At the same time, girls slightly outnumber boys at extremely high levels of verbal reasoning and writing ability.”

Baloney. Even Ms. magazine knows better.

“Last year, Educational Testing Service (ETS), which publishes the SAT, had a chance to even the score between the sexes even further with a major revision of its test. It has chosen, instead, to widen the gender gap for the highest-performing women.*

According to an in-depth analysis by Art Sawyer—one of the most knowledgeable leaders in test preparation—the proportion of female students in top-scoring ranges has declined in comparison to the older SAT. Average SAT score differences between all males and females on the new SAT fell to 20 points, which is better than the 24 points of the previous SAT, but this gender gap increases to 40 points when comparing male and female students with the highest scores. According to Sawyer, 45 percent more men than women are in the top score range of 1400-1600. On the old test, the gender gap at the highest score range was 31 percent. Because the College Board stopped reporting detailed information for the test sections by gender and race in 2015, it is difficult to say how this new gender gap has been created.”

https://msmagazine.com/2018/02/15/highest-performing-women-still-scoring-lower-men-sat/

*Can these women even hear themselves? Unbelievable.

I’m part of the extremely online right, but I’m trying to recover. I try to turn off my screens by 9:00pm and buy used paperbacks now.

Why? Keziah is an ancient Jewish name. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keziah

Analogously, I’m quite moderate and fairly agnostic on policy.

Yeah, nobody can figure out where Steve is on Covid Lockdowns or supporting Zelensky. What a mystery.

Seriously, when Steve actually cares about an issue, you’ll know which side he’s on. It’s just the fate of his own people that bores him. The SWPL crowd can’t be bothered.

this is where Hanania excels. he’s a very good thinker and writer on this topic. naturally, leftists hate that.

his profile must be rising, because it seems like the left recently discovered him within the last year or so, with all the associated, inevitable attack campaigns that follow whenever they discover an actually dangerous opponent.

Tyler Austin Harper is a literary scholar working at the intersection of environmental studies, philosophy, and the history of science. [Italics mine.]

When someone works “at the intersection” of a series of things, it tells me – usually – that the person in question is not an expert at any of those things – or anything at all.

I heard him in the Glenn show. He seemed like such a reasonable young man.

One problem with your write-up, Steve.

To me a ‘Bryan Caplan style open borders libertarian’ is the biggest extremist you can possibly get: More extreme than the Taliban, Isis, Bolshevism, the German NSDAP etc etc, all rolled into one.

Just a moment’s serious reflection about the very true and inevitable consequences of ‘Bryan Caplan style open borders’ will bear this out.
Basically, one telling analogy is what happens to the human body if the immune system is suppressed, as anyone unfortunate enough to undergo an organ transplant will attest.

What if assertions for IQ differences were quickly followed with possible environmental explanations?
1) diet and nutrition
2) culture that discourages “acting white”

Maybe that would result in less push back and more constructive policy proposals than arguing that it is genetic and therefore, unchangeable.

I’d much rather have better school lunch programs and a celebration of Western heritage than what we have now:
1) antiwhite racial quotas
2) blaming “systemic racism” (i.e., Whites are the racist race who are always oppressing Blacks)

Maybe it’s a lie, but it’s a better lie than the one we’re being forced to live with now.

Boys still outnumber girls by more than about 3-to-1 at extremely high levels of math ability and scientific reasoning.

At the same time, girls slightly outnumber boys at extremely high levels of verbal reasoning and writing ability.

Worth noting: 1) girls slightly outnumber boys anyway and 2) verbal reasoning and writing ability tend to be judged subjectively, often very subjectively. And often by women.

Not that I know from such things, but “The Imbricating Ossicles” sounds like a good band name with very selective appeal.

Telling Blacks to eat like Whites and act White will be deemed as racist. The only acceptable cause of Black pathologies and their lower intelligence is racism. Blacks cannot be held accountable for their actions. Noticing the IQ difference between Blacks and Non-Blacks is racist., thus any prescribed solution is just more racism.

Tyler Austin Harper Atlantic article archived link:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230918143855/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/richard-hanania-origins-of-woke-book/675348/

His previous Atlantic article:
https://web.archive.org/web/20230831151116/https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/anti-racist-color-blindness-dei-programs/674996/

I’m a Black Professor. You Don’t Need to Bring That Up.
Anti-racists are overcorrecting.
By Tyler Austin Harper
AUGUST 14, 2023

(scribble) next time nix on the universal rights.

To me a ‘Bryan Caplan style open borders libertarian’ is the biggest extremist you can possibly get

You must be the Anonymous who can’t process irony, sarcasm, or concepts like “self-licking ice cream cone.” I don’t think it’s your fault, you’re probably somewhere on the spectrum, but you need to take that into consideration when you post.

From the excerpt of Saini on Robert Reich:

Reich implies that natural selection may have acted on them differently within this timescale to produce changes that go further than skin deep. He adds, judiciously, that he doesn’t think these differences will be large …

Yes, indeed, judiciously! Better not go too far with this, comrade. Right now it’s only virtual gulags …

Jack D. is right that these people are Communists. I note that, as with the old 5-year plans, the Progressives* want progress. Scores must equalize. If not, heads will roll.

.

* Do they still use that term, or have too many people caught on?

Wokeness, is, of course, a culmination of a lot of trends and political ideas but I think everyone sees that it represents a weird sudden step change (Steve originally contended that somehow the most white black man ever being president somehow triggered it or he and his admin stoked it, I don’t see it.) that seems to have taken everyone, including the megaphone, by surprise.

It is ultimately the emergence of adolescent girls and young women on social media and the relative importance ascribed to such media that has caused this. That is what wokeness is, politics if it was designed solely to appeal to adolescence girls. It takes no interest in industrial policy, it takes no interest in geopolitics (See how the obvious Russiagate fraud was taken with due seriousness by women who are actually more supportive of the war in Ukraine than men in Western countries!) and seems to largely baffle men, including the most liberal of men who are confused why real left-wing issues get ignored. Take global warming, we went from Al Gore making a movie where he carefully and dully (According to one girly girl I once saw it with, I found it very interesting) explains it and why it’s bad to things like Extinction Rebellion which consists of women (Very publicly because reputation embellishment is very key to female social status) just screaming and not being very deeply interested in the nuts and bolts of global warming at all. It’s just bad. There is no substance or specific demands or discussions about what is the best policy or best policy in different places or most effective way to get there.

In the past new forms of media technology have always caused massive social and political changes, we saw it with radio, we saw with television. It took quite a while until we saw it with the internet but by 2014 it was clear. The internet suddenly had gone from a place dominated by nerdy men with Aspergy traits (Back to Al Gore again) to one dominated by women with more BPD-like traits. (This was, in fact the meta conflict to what became “GamerGate” and why it failed since social shaming doesn’t work on people who are anonymous on the internet) And the macro personality of the internet helped socialise younger cohorts who had never known a world without social media. Places like Tumblr were harbingers and helped to create the uniquely toxic internet culture they exported to Twitter and then TikTok etc. These centralised social media platforms where the loudest (Not even necessarily the majority but just a coherent plurality) ideas get seen by all. Social media and smartphones changed our stereotype quickly from a place nerdy nerd waste time on to a place young women and girls waste their time on.

The more and more you look at it, Wokeness is just the macro effect of this cohort becoming so influential (Women with BPD seem to love social media the most and using it to engage in social aggression) and becoming politicised (This is also a cohort that has historically been seen in all cultures as the least politically engaged) changing public discourse very abruptly.

The most profound effect of this has been the hysteria around Trump and them being very easily tricked into becoming neocons on Russia. The war in Ukraine has been fueled, the path has been lubricated by their willingness to believe the absurd propaganda and to generate their own. True hysteria depends on both the establishment media and social media bouncing off each other, if there is no audience for the propaganda it just fizzles out on TV, if there is no establishment clamour for the campaigns on social media, nobody sees it. But if they are both on the same page you get a feedback loop where one encourages the other to become more radical until you have the disaster in Ukraine that the US establishment doesn’t actually know how to extract itself from.

Wokeness is the public discourse reflecting society increasingly living inside the head of a 15 year old girl with BPD who hates her dad. And it’s has helped deliver the US into a conflict where it has already lost it’s hegemony (It’s gone, when Biden had to go to Venezuela and ask them for oil, it was gone, overreach is all you can say, the only way to get it back is to wage and “win” WW3 against the new Sino-Russo alliance) and put the world at the greatest threat of nuclear annihilation it has ever known.

It’s a giant, increasingly global digital Salem Witch Trial.

Libertarians are kind of in a weird position in the culture war because they’re not woke but don’t subscribe to the major remaining unwoke ideologies of Christian social conservatism or whatever BAP and Nick Fuentes are doing. They were for gay rights before it was cool, but aren’t interested in keeping people from saying what a woman is. Caplan just wrote a book against feminism.

I agree open borders would be far more destructive than anything the wokies have done so far. A billion Americans? Ugh. I was, ah, banned from Scott Alexander’s old blog for mocking Caplan over open borders a while back. He was trying to keep from getting too much ire at the time, I think-he still had his day job. Well, maybe it was a worthwhile strategy. He did become one of the better conservative writers who isn’t actually a conservative and apparently Substack pays him quite a bit.

In his defense, it wasn’t a very substantial comment.

the same people who will tell you that 70,000 years is a blink in evolutionary time, that zero differences in race have occurred, will also tell you that of course Deion Sanders’ kid is a Heisman candidate. He’s big and strong and fast, just like Deion.

As Serwer and Harper indicate, if biological reality were acknowledged it would destroy the justification for a slew of progressive policy prescriptions. The left’s entire approach to society rests on environmental causes as the reason for any undesirable condition, which in turn justifies extremely broad and far-reaching state interventions. Remove environmental causes as the prime driver then suddenly a lot of left wing social interventions look foolish and/or downright immoral.

Now, I understand Harper’s cope about this. He (and Serwer, who is scum) are both bright guys and it would be very difficult for either to accept that they are extreme outliers for the group they identify with, and that the lack of similar people in the elite circles they move is essentially a permanent condition. Whites are more sanguine about being outshone by Asians because there just aren’t that many of the latter and being a strong second means they still have a lot of economic and social opportunity. To be black means that after generations of talk about the promised land, acres and mules, and being depicted as the most moral beings on the planet, the professional world is a very lonely place for the talented tenth, and everyone below that a place where literally everyone else is outclassing you in advancement, income, material goods, etc. That’s not a role anyone would accept willingly.

Hanania is Luther and The Atlantic is the Inquisition.

Good analogy.

and Reich is Galileo.

Yeah, but they could go full Wilfred Reilly or Herman Cain and make a career out of being a black conservative. (And Christian values are actually good for most black people.) They probably figure they are making more money as liberals.

Since we are acknowledging there is a biological basis for IQ, personality traits, etc., I think it’s worth pointing out that blacks seem to be far less individualistic than whites so no matter the intellectual talent there are also far fewer that are comfortable taking paths that separate them from the herd.

I’m intrigued by the transformation of so many policy debates into holiness spirals, where any nuance is immediately punted outside the Overton frame.

COVID is a recent and very obvious example: “Mask up, or you’re killing my granny.” “An epidemic of the unvaccinated!” That the entire mask hypothesis is based on flawed premises, that the vaccines are actually leaky, is completely outside the debate. Humans are virus-shedding machines who dare not breathe within a mile of meemaw; the unvaccinated wander the landscape like Biblical lepers, who stubbornly refuse to die so we can immolate their corpses.

Global warming: who could possibly put gas in their car or fire up a grill knowing their actions are turning the planet into Venus? Every time you go to the grocery store and start your cookout, it’s another Shoah.

Equality: “All men are created equal.” That they are manifestly not, that equality does not even exist in the universe above the atomic level, is literally unmentionable. Next thing you know, we’ll be shipping the Jews and gypsies off to the camps.

The same technique is used to frame other debates: public education, aid to Ukraine, foreign aid in general, welfare, reparations.

It’s a histrionic, effeminate mindset and it has completely captured policy debates.

Tyler doth protest too much.

Yes. And notice all the well rehearsed criticisms; it’s a scrolling of cliches.

And the double think. Half their effort is denying any genetic differences in humans. The other half is announcing that Whites are a distinct genetic group that needs to be punished and bred out of existence; along with chortling about the various successes of non-Whites with the implication of an inherent superiority.

Soon-to-be-irrelevant comment: Brian Chau summarizes his thoughtful, positive review of “The Origins of Woke” as a Twitter thread. The full review is a not-paywalled post at his Substack.

Good. Hanania is useless, like Yglesias and all those other useless people that Steve admires.

>> Hanania is Luther and The Atlantic is the Inquisition.
> and Reich is Galileo

, stating “Eppur si muove.” But, carefully! Given the circumstances, no need to further antagonize The Pope NIH R01 Review Group members.

There is no genetic support for the idea that humans are divided into distinct races with immutable traits shared by others who have the same skin color.

Look, on a superficial and hoplessly naive level, this statement is absolutely correct. A Kalihari bushman, a Papua New Guinea bus driver and a Tamil software designer may all have literally “the same skin color” but they do not share the same immutable traits. As Steve has pointed out, I think, most of us actually seem to be born with an innate sense of “race”. We know fairly instinctively that a dark skinned Indian is not the same as a Sub Saharan African. Skin color is only one element of race, and a handy shortcut sometimes but often not particularly relevant. But the left loves to obscure that fact to make “race” seem like a silly concept.

Put it this way, I’d rather live under the very worst a combination of the Taliban/Isis/NSDAP/Bolshevism could do, if such a tyranny was capable of zealously imposing a complete halt to mass black/brown immigration, than enduring a ‘Bryan Caplan open borders’ regime.

You might scoff, but I am convinced and certain that the eventual destination of the Caplan option would be infinitely more horrific than the first option.

Steve Sailer:

“But, instead we know the answer: Race Does Not Exist Genetically.”

But race *REALLY* does not exist genetically. How many times must this be explained to you, you stubborn Right-wing ideologue? The fact that you write with this snarky tone as if it were a “fact”: that race is real genetically and that stating otherwise is just Leftist nonsese makes it even more irritating.

What exists genetically is ancstry, which is determined by *A TINY NUMBER OF NUCLEOTIDE VARiATIONS LOCATED MOSTLY IN NON-ESSENTIAL GENES.*

Listen to me, Steve Sailer. Do you think that DNA sequencing companies do full genome sequences when they test people to see whether they are of European or African ancestry? No:

*THEY SEQUENCE A TINY, TINY PART OF THE GENOME, LOCATED MOSTLY IN NON-ESSENTIAL GENES IN THE MT CHROMOSOME AND Y CHROMOSOME(IN THE CASE OF MALES). *

Do you think they geneticists look at all the 20,000 genes in your genome to tell you what your ancestry is? No, they look at less than 10 genes, and a few thousand nucleotides(out of billions!)

Do you have any idea how much a full genome sequence costs? I know, because I am one of the few people on the planet that has all my genome seqquenced. A low-quality(polymerase chain reaction) sequence will cost you about $5,000. If it is gold-standard quality,(terminal restriction fragment), it will cost you over $100 K. That is down from the $1 billion that it cost 20 years ago.

But full genome sequencing is way, way , way above the budget of the vast majority of people that have theire DNA analysed by 23andme and Ancestry-com.

And yet, the geneticists can easily tell their “race” with an exam that costs only $100! You know why? Because they can tell you if you are of European, Asian or African ancestry by looking at a tiny,TINY part of your DNA. It’s not like the genetic differences between Europeand and Africans are so profound that you need to check thousands of genes and billions of nucleotide bases to determine ancestry(“race”)!

But hey, if you want to equate ancestry, determined by 0.002% variation in non-essential genes, with “race”, then I guess “race” is real genetically. Is this relevant? No.

You want *facts*? Here is the *fact*: “white” people and “black” people are genetically 99.998% *identical* . The 0.002% od difference is located mostly in genes that code for adaptations to Africa’s hot weather and high burden of infections. Those are FACTS.

You claim that you don’t have ideology, and that you believe that Nature and nurture are both important. Hogwash. The *first* think that you do when you look at a newstory is to tell the “race” of a person. If someone committs a crime, the first thing you want to know is the “race”. It’s not like you ask first if he was abused as a child, or has mental problems or some other “nurture” aspect of it.

No, you franctily Google the guy to see if he’s black. That’s where your mindset is. They say:

“To a man with a hammer, every problem is a nail.”

To a racist, everything is about “race”. You *clearly* have a Right-wing ideological agenda. Stop pretending that you are this dettached “scientist” that has no ulterior motivation, because you clearly do. Your disingenuousness is insufferable.

But let’s assume that I am wrong. Let’s assume that race is real. So what? You can still judge people as individuals, and all the traits that are supposedly ascribed to “race” are expressed most strongly at the individual level – like intelligence. Even your social darwinist buddy, Charles Murray, thinks so.

So why even bring up “race” all the time, in literally 90% of your articles when it is not even necessary, and only creates hatred? What is your motivation here? If character and intelligence are best judged individually, why even bring “race” up when it creates so much hatred and heartache?

Gold Box Comment — what makes iSteve threads worth reading.

A minor disagreement:

[When both the establishment media and social media] are both on the same page you get a feedback loop where one encourages the other to become more radical until you have the disaster in Ukraine that the US establishment doesn’t actually know how to extract itself from.

It’s worse than that — most of the US establishment has yet to recognize that the Ukraine disaster exists, much less reckon with its extent.

I hereby issue a challenge to iSteve readers.

As a premise, let me suggest that the race-is-a-social-construct crew argue as follows. My friend, B. F. Wittery IV tells me that “race” has only one meaning in English, to wit blah, blah, blah. The distinction between black and white Americans does not satisfy this definition, therefore …

I come to the issue from a different angle. I suggest that “race” in English has a range of meanings, as may easily be inferred from writings over the last few centuries. (An aside: and I won’t indulge in the white patriarchal trick of privileging English; I advance the argument for other languages too.)

For example, the widest definition is encapsulated in the expression “the human race”, a narrower one in “the European race”, narrower yet in “the German race”, further narrowed in “the Bavarian race”, and so on.

Here’s my challenge, chaps: what’s the narrowest expression you’ve ever encountered? In the British Isles I think my winner would be “the Cumbrian race” or “the Geordie race”, if my memory isn’t playing tricks. Has anyone ever written “the Orcadian race”? Over to you.

The idea that Deion Sanders’ sons have good athletic genes — one is his star quarterback, another returned an interception for a touchdown — doesn’t seem to improbable.

I don’t think it’s improbable at all. I think it’s demonstrably true. Good athletes have athletic children. Smart people have smart children. Dumb people have dumb children. Look around and you can see the results of continent-wide experiments.

They were for gay rights before it was cool
==
Non-spurious libertarians would object to defining consensual sodomy as a crime, to hire bars and mandatory discharge of homosexuals in public employment, to the use of agents provacateurs to sting cruising homosexuals, and to police raids on certain establishments absent reasonable suspicion. They wouldn’t object to activity which falls under the heading of ‘freedom of contract’ or ‘freedom of association’. The problem, of course, is that soi-disant libertarians are commonly spurious.

You want *facts*? Here is the *fact*: “white” people and “black” people are genetically 99.998% *identical* .

That’s right. And I share 99.998% of my DNA with Brad Pitt. That 0.002% is a motherfucker though, ain’t it?

Yeah, but they could go full Wilfred Reilly or Herman Cain and make a career out of being a black conservative.
==
Cain was a marketing executive. He was prominent in starboard politics fairly late in life.

To some extent that may be true. OTOH, see Glenn Loury on the ways in which ‘affirmative action’ ‘socializes a person’s success’ and reduces his propensity to ‘deviate from group consensus’.
=
Blacks in this country have a terrible political culture, one which cannot sustain much debate in any venue. This is not true in the Caribbean or Brazil or Colombia’s Pacific coast, where multi-party systems are sustainable.

The broadest is the rat race. Everyone alive participates in it, in one form or another, even rats.

Hey Anoinymous:

1. Your post includes many assertions, and many of those are dubious. Why not learn to hyperlink? If your claims are actually correct, in context, etc., you’ll accrue credibility with your readers.

2. Why’d you get your genome sequenced? You come across as too ignorant of the subject to derive much benefit… but you probably aren’t. If I had the money, I’d get genome sequenced, too… probably.

3. David Reich’s book on ancient DNA provides a great background for thinking about “race.” (Also for thinking about “the politics of NIH grant funding — Reich’s denunciation of Nicholas Wade for racist thoughtcrime reads even worse now than it did in 2018.)

I agree open borders would be far more destructive than anything the wokies have done so far.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2023-09-19/developer-builds-60-square-mile-illegal-alien-colony-texas

https://cis.org/Bensman/Texas-Massacre-Happened-Americas-Largest-Illegal-Immigrant-Colonia-and-Major-US-Media-Wont

“It’s a giant, increasingly global digital Salem Witch Trial.”

We’ve never shaken our Puritan origins. American Calvinism on full display here.

Regarding SAT scores, I believe it is the case that about 25 – 30 years ago the SATs were recalibrated, so that a higher percentage of test takers got above 700. If that is true, than that fact alone would explain at least some of the shrinking male-female gap. The bigger the group that 700+ signifies, the less the differences at the extremes will show up.

Isn’t “diversity” nothing but a racist pseudoscience?

It had been over fifty years since universities claim there are inherent substantive differences between demographic groups — diversity — yet can you name a single proven difference?

The fear of discovering unflattering differences means there is no actual research on unearthing differences between blacks and whites, men and women, or gays and straights.

There’s a certain rhetorical trick that is common in wannabe-highbrow anti-HBD screeds in The Atlantic and similar rags: Every sentence in the “debunking” paragraph is crammed full of hyperlinks to studies that purportedly show that Blank Slateism is backed by “overwhelming scientific consensus.” In this case, it’s Austin’s paragraph that begins “The idea of superior white intelligence…” Of course, they never acknowledge any of the studies that Steve linked above.

I decided to click on one of Austin’s links there to check it out:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25867168/. That abstract includes the sentence:

According to this theoretical model, Black-White group mean differences in cognitive test scores arise from the following racially disparate conditions: family income, maternal education, maternal verbal ability/knowledge, learning materials in the home, parenting factors (maternal sensitivity, maternal warmth and acceptance, and safe physical environment), child birth order, and child birth weight…. Importantly, the racially disparate conditions listed above can account for the relation between race and cognitive test scores. (Emphasis added)

The question naturally occurs: what if “maternal education” etc. are downstream of genetically determined IQ? No sign of grappling with this question.

People like Serwer genuinely(?) seem to believe that acknowledging HBD inevitably means the return of Jim Crow segregation, and singling out Blacks for worse treatment. They seem to envision otherwise stellar job applications being rejected (“sorry, you’re black!”) or police turning a blind eye to rampant nonblack crime, whilst singling out black motorists for broken taillights.

In reality, the overwhelming majority of the unwoke right call for treating people as individuals, and letting the Disparate Impact chips fall where they may. Maybe it’s inevitable that your physics dept. will be overwhelmingly Jewish & Asian guys and your NBA team will be overwhelmingly Black guys. In other words, as Steve has pointed out, an unwoke, HBD-accepting world would look… a lot like this world, except lacking the enormous waste of time, money and energy that is the diversity industry.

“working at the intersection of…” has become quite a tiresome resume cliche. Especially since Walgreen’s took it to a new low with its chirpy “at the intersection of Happy and Healthy!”

The Caplan option ends with Haiti, so I tend to agree.

Let’s check in on Lampedusa:

https://gab.com/Dissidentsoaps/posts/111087473837392056

It’s an existential battle for the West, but by all means let’s debate literally anything else.

You know why? Because they can tell you if you are of European, Asian or African ancestry by looking at a tiny,TINY part of your DNA. It’s not like the genetic differences between Europeand and Africans are so profound that you need to check thousands of genes and billions of nucleotide bases to determine ancestry(“race”)!

The fact they can tell your race (or as you seem to prefer, “ancestry”–whatever) from a vanishingly small sample of billions of nucleotides does not necessarily indicate what you seem to think it does.

It depends on your moral compass. It’s actually not that hard for an intelligent socially-adept person to carve out a pretty nice life in Caplan world with far fewer ethical compromises than you would have to make under a Bolshevik regime, and much better material rewards. Elites live fairly well in Brazil, Mexico, South Africa (so far), even Nigeria. There is the constant stress that you are on top of a volcano but the threat of a painful death is also omnipresent in the totalitarian ethnically pure world of North Korea.

The issue is not that life in Caplan world will be the worst of all possible worlds, it is that it will simply be much worse than life in the USA is now. So why are we moving that way?

Here is the *fact*: “white” people and “black” people are genetically 99.998% *identical* .

As others have pointed out, we are also 99% identical to chimpanzees. What % different from each other is a chihuahua and a timber wolf? What % different were Albert Einstein and his schizophrenic son Eduard? Small differences can lead to very different outcomes.

The 0.002% od difference is located mostly in genes that code for adaptations to Africa’s hot weather and high burden of infections.

Is it possible that there were OTHER adaptions made during the tens of thousands of years that Europeans were separated from Africans that have an effect on average intelligence, behavior, running speed, etc. and that these are not yet fully understood or documented?

Is it purely a coincidence that virtually all of the athletes who compete at the Olympic level in the 100m dash are black?

Your latter assertion is more in the nature of hope or belief than an actual reflection of the state of knowledge as to what effect the 0.002% difference has in the real world.

There are countless real world examples of how African people differ from Europeans on average in various traits – intelligence, criminality, athletic ability and so on. But we are supposed to accept on pure faith that these are all socially determined because you KNOW what all the different genes code for and they just happen to be for totally meaningless things like heat resistance.

An intellectually-mediocre semi-Negro. What a surprise!

Reminds me of the white home-schooled girl in rural Washington who was inundated with catalogues from schools she didn’t ask for. Her name was Keziah.

Seems surprising given the demographics.
https://www.mynamestats.com/First-Names/K/KE/KEZIAH/index.html

like Yglesias and all those other useless people that Steve admires.

…..Now wait a second ,Steve and the rest of us got a little chuckle when he got his ass kicked by a black dude on the street in Washington…did it knock any sense in his head , we can only hope……….amirite.

Thanks. A sample of quotes from the time.
https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/scientists-react-to-comments-by-james-watson-on-race-and-intelligence-2/

The Amy Harmon crusade against James Watson continued.
https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=125531

In case you can’t read it here’s Serwer’s tweet:

“you and the rest of the Amerikaners probably should have thought about that before building a system of government on the forced labor of non-whites while espousing an ideal of universal rights that would logically have to include us. Whoops!”

Serwer appears to be a genuinely bad guy. An interesting aspect of his inflammatory attitudes towards race is that his father Daniel was one of Richard Holbrooke’s top deputies when dealing with the Bosnian War. Almost like the Serwers are intentionally inflaming Bosnia-style ancient hatreds here.

As is well know, humans and chimps also have 99% identical DNA sequences (and humans and mice are at least 90% similar). There is no point in looking at the 90 or 99% of sequences that are known to be identical. If you want to tell two or more things apart you look at sequences that are known to be different. Even a SINGLE marker might be enough to tell if you are looking at the DNA of a mouse, a chimp or a human if it from a gene that is know to be different between the species.

The more profound the differences the FEWER sequences you need to check, which is the exact opposite of what Anoinymous is claiming. The fact that you can tell an African from a European with only a few snippets is a result of the fact that these particular snippets are almost ALWAYS different between blacks and whites. If you were trying to tell a Swede from a Finn you would have to analyze MORE sequences because statistically there would be a lot of overlap – if you only looked at a handful of sequences many of them would be found in both groups and you wouldn’t be able to form any conclusion.

It’s like a game of 20 questions where you have to determine which of two animals I am thinking of. If the two animals are a mouse and an elephant you could probably win the game after only 1 question (“Is it bigger than a breadbox?”) But if the two animals are a fox and a wolf you might have to go the full 20 questions. Blacks and whites are genetically different enough that you only need to ask a few questions to determine which is which. If they were REALLY highly similar you would have to test a lot of sequences to tell them apart reliably. The exact opposite of what he is asserting, which shows that he really has zero understanding of the subject.

There is another interesting story in the Atlantic:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/09/jonathan-lethem-brooklyn-crime-novel/675334/

Titled “Whiteboy Brooklyn Novelist Grows Up” and leaves Brooklyn for Maine and California.

Reading it, the only conclusion is being a whiteboy in Brooklyn means you get beat up a lot.

We talk about the Asian-Black IQ gap, or the white-black one, but there are other gaps:

1. That blacks are better in athletic endeavors, by a long shot. In particular ones that require strength and a lot of fast twitch muscle. Sanders is showing that with his heavy recruiting of HCBU athletes that were otherwise ignored.

2. Blacks are festering maturing than other races, asian are very far behind. Very related to #1, above.

3. Blacks may have a better sense of rhythm.

Jimmy Buffett’s recent death led me down the rabbit hole into “Yacht Rock” and the joys of 1970s soft rock. What’s funny is the disdain other soft rockers had for buffett for his focus on simple rhythms. Brian Wilson never had that problem.

Now in terms of societal outcomes being athletic tends to not help after age 30. Likewise, being a very smart kid in Brooklyn doesn’t help much at 12 but does at 48 in terms of outcomes.

3.

Do you think that DNA sequencing companies do full genome sequences when they test people to see whether they are of European or African ancestry? No:

*THEY SEQUENCE A TINY, TINY PART OF THE GENOME, LOCATED MOSTLY IN NON-ESSENTIAL GENES IN THE MT CHROMOSOME AND Y CHROMOSOME(IN THE CASE OF MALES). *

Do you think they geneticists look at all the 20,000 genes in your genome to tell you what your ancestry is? No, they look at less than 10 genes, and a few thousand nucleotides(out of billions!)

Are you the same dumb (now pseudo) anonymous who wrote this comment?
https://www.unz.com/isteve/are-life-outcomes-better-predicted-by-social-identities-or-genes/#comment-6155355

If so (or even if not, the response applies to your quote as well), try replying to my response there. You don’t know what you are talking about.

Do you have any idea how much a full genome sequence costs? I know, because I am one of the few people on the planet that has all my genome seqquenced. A low-quality(polymerase chain reaction) sequence will cost you about $5,000. If it is gold-standard quality,(terminal restriction fragment), it will cost you over $100 K. That is down from the $1 billion that it cost 20 years ago.

I had a WGS done for about $250. And SNP chip results available for under $100 cover autosomal chromosomes. Here is a summary of autosomal DNA tests for genetic genealogy.
https://isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_testing_comparison_chart

Notice how they typically have 100x the number of autosomal SNPs tested than either Y or mtDNA SNPs.

Why do people feel the need to write such clueless blather?

Brazil the model, South Africa the model, “I think he likes me” (from Morrison’s the Invisibles) the rationale. None of the normalization of extreme violence or the devastation of the living standard will affect the elites, because they will live in walled compounds of Elysian splendor, just like the famous photo of the Brazilian landscape divided down the middle by walls: half villa and half favela. But, surely, hacks like Hanania don’t qualify as elite in any sense? Well, “I think he likes me.” When the gates are closing, the entire plan of losers that write like this will be to hope that somebody remembers the services once provided.

Twinkie:

When someone works “at the intersection” of a series of things, it tells me – usually – that the person in question is not an expert at any of those things – or anything at all.

If you don’t know where you’re going, any road will take you there.

Of course, you still won’t know where you are.

Do such, uh, professors branch out to find themselves?

when I saw that the author capitalized ‘black’, but not ‘white’, I stopped reading

in my opinion, neither require capitalization

It’s partly a joke. Keziah’s sister was Jemima which at one time was even more stereotypically black.

It doesn’t work because names go in and out of fashion in different groups at different times. At one time, Irving and Morris were WASP names, probably from the WASP habit of giving their kids surnames as 1st names. But at some point they were picked up by Jews (as “English” versions of Hebrew names such as Reeven and Moshe because the direct translations of those names (Reuben and Moses) were “too Jewish” sounding at a time when Jews wanted to be assimilated into American society). But it was a fool’s errand because those name also became identified as “Jewish”.

Back in the 19th century, it was a thang for blacks to give their kids biblical names, sometimes even obscure Biblical figures such as Keziah and Jemima that were not favored by whites. Perhaps blacks identified with Job who suffered in the Bible so they named their daughters after the daughters of Job. They were also described as being exceptionally beautiful and born at a time when Job was restored to prosperity and so perhaps these names were bestowed by blacks in the (usually vain) hope that the same would be true of them and their daughters. (Job’s 3rd daughter, Keren-happuch, never caught on as a name among anyone – too hard to spell and pronounce I suppose. Keren-happuch means “Horn of Kohl” and would have been a good name for a black person but in those days blacks probably didn’t want names that alluded to their blackness.)

But very few blacks give their kids obscure Biblical names today. That’s not the fashion. They prefer invented African or French sounding names like Lateesha and Latoya. So HS student named Keziah today is probably the daughter of (white) fundamentalist Christians rather than black.

But maybe the folks at college admission offices are not up on the latest trends in black names so the story is still true.

In high school I heard Buckminster Fuller speak. One of his topics was about how there was no such thing as race. His supporting comments included one that in hot climates all lips turn out to expose more flesh.
My science teacher told us attendees not to give much credence to Fuller.

When someone works “at the intersection” of a series of things

Streets, especially. “Homeless Veteran”? Nah, not buying it. Dancing traffic cop? GTFO. Shauntelle Dixie? Damn, gurl you workin’ it.

If Richard Hanania believes that cognitive ability differs among human populations, why is he a proponent of open borders?

As his face would suggest, he’s a bit of a Joker.

Dearieme writes:

In the British Isles I think my winner would be “the Cumbrian race” or “the Geordie race”

The narrowest use of “race” to describe a group of people in the British Isles may be the claim asserted in the motto of Clan MacGregor – s’rioghail mo dhream – meaning “royal is my race.”

As of late the performance of “experts” particularly in the fields of medicine, science, military and foreign policy, has been lacking. Generalists with their use of ambiguity are experts in corporate or academic survival. Try pinning them down on a specific subject: they excrete a smoke screen and woosh! they’re at one of their long and leisurely lunches leaving you standing there, holding your banana sling.

That was a good read.

“My friend, B.F. Wittery IV …”

The B.F. Wittery IV, acknowledged expert on the Picts? No such person exists.

Back in the 19th century, it was a thang for blacks to give their kids biblical names,
==
Well into the 20th century. Black names were off-beat in various ways, but recognizably Indo-European or Biblical up until about 1966. That’s about the time you began to see ersatz Africanisant names. In the rest of the population, you began to see whimsical spellings, among other things.

I’m not sure, yes the full consequences, much more rapid de-dollarisation etc haven’t hit yet but I can’t imagine they really think anyone but Russia has come out a winner here. They won the economic war almost immediately. It doesn’t really even matter if they win the war in Ukraine because the land they are fighting over has no strategic value. And for the neocons it’s worse, (For everyone else, better) Syria is back in the Arab League, Saudi and Iran have decided to stop fighting each other. The US military simply cannot engage in the same kind of large-scale military interventions in the Middle East it could have gotten away with prior to Feb 22′. Can there really be anyone who thinks Ukraine can win? In reality they are all just trying to save face and buy time for a miracle. The only ones getting hurt in the meantime are Ukrainian and Russian soldiers and who cares about them? Apparently nobody in the West. If it takes 10 Ukrainian soldiers deaths to kill one Russian soldier as far as Washington is concerned that’s 1 dead Russian soldier for free.

Once you understand Leftist as a religion with only pretensions of being scientific it all makes sense.

If word gets out to White women that Black IQ is lower than White IQ, White women may develop reservations about mating with Blacks.

Once you understand that, it all makes sense.

So, by your own admission, you spent a small fortune on a DNA test that you now proudly declare was useless, worthless and completely unimportant.

You’re even dumber than the body of your post suggests.

There are very few natural experiments in eugenic breeding for humans, aside from breeding that is vital to survival itself, such as the gene that allows Africans to survive malaria (but if you get two copies, you get sickle cell disease).

But when such experiments exist, they can give rise to significant differences in traits in a relatively short amount of time – on the scale of hundreds of years rather than thousands or more. One such famous example is the elevated IQ of Ashkenazi Jews that was driven by their need to survive by their wits in the ghettos of Europe.

What is relatively little known is that Europeans have been selecting for lack of criminality for a very long time. Caesar in The Gallic Wars mentions how the gods were propitiated by the Gauls by means of human sacrifice (immolation inside a giant wicker basket in the shape of a man – the original burning man) but these sacrifices were also a way of getting rid of the most violent and criminal people. Likewise, in England up until modern times (the 19th century) the only penalty for felonies was death – “felony” and “capital crime” were synonyms. There were no penitentiaries. Deportation to the colonies (at first the American colonies and then Australia) was seen as the more humane alternative to the standard punishment of hanging for every felony offense.

One can see, in modern society today, that a small number of violent people can make the rest of a city unlivable for the majority. People today get around this by moving to the suburbs or whatever but one can imagine that in a small crowded country where people were rooted to the land this was not a viable alternative – if someone was making your village unlivable the solution would be to get rid of him permanently.

One can imagine that after a couple of centuries or millennia of this type of selection that the average person in such a society would become better behaved and suited for living in crowded conditions than an unselected population. Probably in crowded Japan an even more ruthless selection occurred which can be seen today in the low levels of criminality even vs. whites. Whereas the African population never underwent a similar type of selection.

The counter here is that NK, Bolsheviks, et al leave room for a better future, stocked by people that have promise. The Caplan plan ends with minimum daily allowance.

So why are we moving that way?

There’s a strain of person that gets a thrill from blowing an inheritance; spending all they have; giving it all away. Such should be kept far away from political power. Alas.

He did become one of the better conservative writers who isn’t actually a conservative and apparently Substack pays him quite a bit.

There are hardly any highly intelligent “100% conservative” writers, only ones I can think of are Hunter Wallace and Rod Dreher. Sailer and Brimelow are more nationalists/populists than conservatives. John Derbyshire is a pro-choice atheist. I personally suspect that Sailer and Brimelow are as well. Banning abortion and believing in Jesus are just not things that appeal to people of high verbal IQ.

Keziah is a young lady of Vietnamese origin.

https://sheetslab.net/people/

This is so full of false assumptions and lies that I don’t even know where to begin. Sure if you assume your conclusion (“Russia is winning”) then everything else follows. But Russia is not “winning” unless you set the goalposts for “winning” in some crazy fashion that Putin could not possibly have had in mind when he invaded. The casualty ratio is not 10 to 1 except in the mind of people who have consumed tremendous amounts of copium. In fact your whole essay reeks of copium. Russians regard it as a victory now when Putin visits North Korea because he cannot set foot in most other countries lest he be arrested as a war criminal. It’s a victory when the Iranians sell them weapons because no one else will, not even the Chinese.

Russia had nothing to offer the world except oil and gas and apparently there is enough oil and gas without them so that Europeans aren’t freezing or eating their pet hamsters the way that the Copiests hoped.

No one really know what the Russian people want since no one really asks them. But it’s hard to believe that they really WANT to live under a regime that is more and more resembling that of North Korea and they would not prefer to live in a place that is more like Finland or Lithuania, where people have freedom of speech and rule of law exists and so on. Back in the days of the USSR, American Communists kept assuring us that Russians just lurved to live in the Communist paradise and that was just a bunch of lies. I am not willing to take your word about how much Russians just lurve Putinism too.

We really don’t know what Russia is going to be like after Putin but it’s probably not going to be good. Dictators like Putin salt the ground. They kill or exile the best people. So what comes next is usually not good. Castroism survived Castro. Khomeiniism survived Khomeini. But these places remain troubled forever. The only way the regime survives is by keeping a permanent repressive lid on things. Otherwise they just fall apart and become Libya.

Yeah, the stylistic tics of that anon[153] and this Anoinymous are strikingly similar. Ideas, too.

Your reply to him from 3 days ago (#108) covers the grounds here as well. Nothing to add.

He’s a fake contrarian and troll. Anatoly Karlin is also now trolling and claims to support open borders (this is despite a year ago he was supporting closed borders and an ethno-state as well as telling French people to vote for the anti-immigration Éric Zemmour).

Go back to the early 2010s, to get Richard Hanania’s real views on immigration:

The ultimate goal should be to get all the post-1965 non-White migrants from Latin America to leave.

JackD, the perceptive and sensible parts of your comment do not — at all — rebut the important points that Altai3 made.

“The idea of superior white intelligence that he implicitly and explicitly refers to throughout the book rests on bad studies and bad science THAT HAVE LONG BEEN REFUTED” (emphasis mine)

By whom? Craig Ventner?

Citations please, Mr. Harper.

“The idea of superior white intelligence that he implicitly and explicitly refers to throughout the book rests on bad studies and bad science THAT HAVE LONG BEEN REFUTED” (emphasis mine)

By whom? Craig Venter?

Citations please, Mr. Harper.

… Race is a sociopolitical category, not a biological one. There is no genetic support for the idea that humans are divided into distinct races with immutable traits shared by others who have the same skin color. Although qualified geneticists have debunked the shoddy arguments of race scientists over and over, the latter maintain their relevance in part by casting substantive objections to their assumptions, methods, and conclusions as liberal censorship. …

I say:

The ruling class propaganda goons say that their house-trained scientists are “qualified” and that the SCIENCE people’s scientists are “shoddy.”

Ray Nitschke or Fred Nietzsche or Nick Nolte playing a New York City Leprechaun cop with a mustache and swept-back black hair and high heels to add height are all Krauts or part Kraut, and The Atlantic magazine brings up the billionaire lady named Laurene Powell Jobs, and remember what the Kraut with the mustache and the swept-back hair Fred Nietzsche said about gals and science:

“Science offends the modesty of all real women. It makes them feel as though it were an attempt to peek under their skin – or, worseyet, under their dress and ornamentation!”

High IQ interlopers to the USA such as Richard Hanania who push open borders mass immigration and multicultural mayhem are secondary problems to the main problem of billionare globalizer mass immigration fanatic oligarchs such as Laurene Powell Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Mike Bloomberg, the COMCAST Roberts bunch, the VIACOM Redstone mob, Brin and Page, the Murdoch slobs and the Sulzberger sleazebags and others of that oligarchical ilk.

The Atlantic magazine is controlled by the widow of Apple corporation founder Steve Jobs. Steve Job’s widow’s name is Laurene Powell Jobs. Laurene Powell Jobs has a pretty face even though she’s in her late late late fifties and many people think pure evil couldn’t emanate from such an angelic lady. They are wrong.

Gullible American boobs, who don’t recognize the danger of nasty beautiful women such as Laurene Powell Jobs, ain’t listening to the departed expert on female hearts, Robert Palmer. Remember, Robert Palmer warned us that a pretty face don’t mean no pretty heart. Mr. Palmer said he learned that from the start.

This Laurene Powell Jobs woman saw other billionaires buying up propaganda outlets and she wanted a bite of that apple. Laurene Powell Jobs watched Bezos buy the Washington Post and Carlos Slim buy a chunk of the New York Times and Mike Bloomberg pushing his globalization agenda in his propaganda outlets.

Laurene Powell Jobs has a Jew named Goldberg as editor of the anti-White propaganda rag The Atlantic. Goldberg pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders. Goldberg does not push these nation-wrecking immigration policies for Israel. This Goldberg creature screeches out that the United States is just an idea. To be fair, GOP treasonite Lindsey Graham says the same thing.

Laurene Powell Jobs, the billionaire mutant who pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders, has made the decision to use the loot she got from being Steve Job’s wife to attack the United States of America in her The Atlantic magazine.

Laurene Powell Jobs and this Goldberg swine must be told that they will not win their war against White Core Christian Americans.

Laurene Powell Jobs and Goldberg will not prevail in their attempts to crush the spirit of White Core American Christian patriots in the United States.

“It’s a histrionic, effeminate mindset and it has completely captured policy debates.”

If you are correct, then it wouldn’t surprise in as much as women seem to be one of (if not the main) drivers of the Woke Phenomenon.

Let’s just say it’s a “tell” that our liberal friends insist that racial differences are all due to discrimination and not due to adaptation.

Obviously their political power depends on being able to call us racists.

Sure if you assume your conclusion (“Russia is winning”) then everything else follows.

Russia is winning. Obviously.

Your fantasy that karma will somehow punish Russia in the future for winning the war is some truly bizarre cope. Moreover, it’s a perfect illustration of IC’s point about neocon idiocy. You think you’ve “won” if Russians suffer.

You are motivated by spite and Russophobia. God help the poor Ukrainians who are being led to the slaughter so that Americans can slake their atavistic hatred.

Doesn’t Jeff Bezos’ ex-wife own the money sink magazine The Atlantic?

So they can continue to print hit jobs regardless of merit or economic ‘sustainability’.

Printing a negative review of a not-yet-published/released book is akin to the CCP’s People’s Daily discussing the recent defense minister’s lavish Swiss vacation. Hmmmm…

Something is up.

The Narrative cannot be questioned. So killing counter Narrative books before the ink is dry is merely preventative mental “health.” BadThink can’t be tolerated. (Russell Brand is now cancelled over newly invented rape accusations from years back…)

Of course such throttling in the crib attacks by hired stooges is likely only to gin up more public interest. Ignoring obvious Truths has always been the most successful Woke strategy.

If Richard Hanania believes that cognitive ability differs among human populations, why is he a proponent of open borders?

Because Dagny Taggart’s rape fantasies forever eroticized free-market-exchange in his mind?

If Richard Hanania believes that cognitive ability differs among human populations, why is he a proponent of open borders?

I have no idea. But perhaps he likes to live among people of inferior mental ability. Much easier to receive higher pay.

Of course he seems to be living here, and not, say in South Africa, India or Brazil. Revealed preference.

BTW: “open borders” is not a conventional “libertarian idea” and I doubt you will find that in the Libertarian Party Platform. While there were early discussions of borders, the consensus remains that only if all land is privately owned does this make any sense, if then.

There are externalities in property ownership and usage. You can invite strangers to live in your home but not in your neighbor’s home.

To the extent that the US govt. is a “trust” for it’s citizens with respect to government property, the rules of the trust (i.e. federal/state laws) should be the standard for admission. (This has now been abandoned by the Biden “trustees”.)

So the races have different genetic ancestry, and they consistently vary in a heritable genetic trait. Thus, Occam’s Razor says . . . [HALT . . . BADTHINK ALERT! . . . DO NOT CONNECT DOTS . . . EXECUTE CRIMESTOP SUB-ROUTINE . . . CHANGE SUBJECT] . . . so anyway, I’ve got stuff to say about Shakespeare and Gibbons.

Doesn’t Jeff Bezos’ ex-wife own the money sink magazine The Atlantic?

Close. Steve Job’s widow. It’s her donation to the whole media propaganda machine that’s run by the CIA through leftist billionaires.

I suspect a lot of coaches down toward the base of the pyramid have their jobs due to their kids. Not Nick Saban or Dabo Swinney, but a lot of high school coaches.

I ‘suspect’ this is wrong.

Being a high school coach (normally football is the highest paid even in HS) is very competitive and normally you need a grad phys ed college degree and the ability to teach at least one non gym class.

While larger high schools may have a few assistants part time, your kids aren’t likely to land you a job unless you live in a very small community. In places with competitive high school football (TX, the South, even PA) coach hiring is scrutinized and rules for acquiring superior student athletes are in force and mainly used by opposing coaches to keep things honest.

This isn’t a Maybury NC world.

But consider this. Many doctors, lawyers, accountants and other high paid professionals come from families where at least one parent is in the same occupation. Also law enforcement, fire fighters, teachers and similar.

Some athlete’s kids also turn out to be good athletes themselves, partly DNA and also just “home schooling’ the untaught basics. A two parent family helps.

There is no doubt that in some cases family ties help the children in careers. Hollywood is notorious now for “Nepo babies” getting early breaks. Not just screen tests. Many union jobs in The Industry require family ties to get into unions. The Rust armorer pink haired twentysomething was a craft union Nepo hire. What could go wrong?

Don’t count on your kid getting you a coaching job…

“Keziah” is Biblical, but the admissions office wouldn’t know that, not these days. It sounds superficially black, and is in fact overrepresented among them. “Haydee” is hundreds of years old, with classical roots, but it is so close to so many recent fad names (among whites) that no one will ever pick up on this.

In the rest of the population, you began to see whimsical spellings, among other things.

Blacks are not the only race in America with a child-naming crisis.

Too typical: the YouTube vloggers The Ninja Fam consist of twins Peyton (sp?) and Paxton, Ashton, Bryton, and Kayson. The last is adopted, and got to choose his middle name. He chose Bruce. At six or seven, he is more mature than his parents!

Great post, and some great comments, I wanted to hit the agree button many times.

Superior.

Someone with a higher IQ is not “superior” to someone with a lower IQ. They just have greater intelligence. I think I’m pretty smart, but von Neumann was a lot smarter than me. I could waste my time wishing I was as smart as von Neumann, as attractive to women as Brad Pitt, as athletic as Tiger Woods, as artistic, as musical, and so on, as the best.

The Western and later the global idea of equality is moral equality. First article of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.

Not equality of wealth, height, intelligence, horsemanship, cuteness, whatever. Moral equality is a secularization of the idea that all humans have souls.

As Kant said, treat someone as a person with her own ends, not merely as a means to your own ends. Moral equality requires that you not mow down and kill a bicyclist with your car for fun (if those youth had freely purchased the bicycle they would be using him as a means to their own ends, but not merely, they also treat him as a person with his own ends by not robbing or killing him). It doesn’t mean being forced to have your legs operated in you so as to reduce you to average height (Harrison Bergeron).

https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/equality/#MoraEqua

Fundamental equality means that persons are alike in important relevant and specified respects alone, and not that they are all generally the same or can be treated in the same way (Nagel 1991). In a now commonly posed distinction, stemming from Dworkin (1977, p. 227), moral equality can be understood as prescribing treatment of persons as equals, i.e., with equal concern and respect, and not the often implausible principle of providing all persons with equal treatment. Recognizing that human beings are all equally individual does not mean treating them uniformly in any respects other than those in which they clearly have a moral claim to be treated alike.

That idea of equality is shared by American right-liberals and by genuine left-liberals (not by the new woke left).

As to public policy, leftist Freddie deBoer and to an extent even Noam Chomsky acknowledge differences in intelligence, but they say that doesn’t change how a country should treat is citizens. Of course, as Sailer insists, having the wrong theory of why there are differences in intelligence leads to mistaken policies with bad consequences for many.

After basic moral equality, one could admire people for being self-sufficient, for being good to family and friends, and similar metrics of evaluation. A nurse who works hard, cares for her children, and is a local soccer champion is not socially inferior to von Neumann.

Keziah’s sister was Jemima which at one time was even more stereotypically black.

In America. It’s quite white in the UK. There it would be associated not with fake maple syrup but with one of the kids in Fleming’s Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang. Young Jemimas are not uncommon:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemima

But not in America. The Social Security Administration reports: “Jemima is not in the top 1000 names for any year of birth beginning with 1900. Please enter another name.”

In thirty years, Aunt J will be long-forgotten, and US kindergartens filled with blond, blue-eyed Jemimas. Because it’s British, thus “cool”. Cf. Donald, Ronald, Brian, Jennifer, Colin, Emma, Aiden, Liam, Olivia…

Sometimes this works in reverse, but downscale rather than up-: Gary and Wayne in the UK, Kevin in Germany. The once-American “Ed” is now hot-to-trot in Blighty– Miliband, Balls, West, Sheeran… Don’t look for the opposite in America– Edward barely makes the top 200 anymore, while Theodore is at #10*. “Ted” is staying put.

*Yes, had Milliband’s party prevailed in 2015, Ed would have been at #10.

Steve cares deeply for his own people. It’s just that he believes that his own people are pundits and intellectuals – of any race.

So I doubt anyone else here has read The Invisibles, it having been a late 90s Vertigo comic about chaos magick, conspiracies, and drugs with protagonists that included a transgender woman and a black lesbian back when that was actually rare. Grant is a talented they but he doesn’t make much sense sometimes.

And even I don’t get the reference, but it’s been a while since I read it. Can you explain? The words are so common it’s hard to Google.

-Archon of the Outer Church

If I’m not mistaken, the ancient hatreds in Bosnia find their origin in events which occurred between 1914 and 1945.

What difference does it make where Steve stands on Russia/Ukraine?

Russians & Ukrainians are both white and likely very similar genetically.

The topic is not related to anything Steve is interested in.

I notice some distinct things when looking at some sports statistics. A large fraction of the top marathon runners are not just black but from a few countries in East Africa.

When you look at short distance sprints you see a lot of black Jamaicans. Apparently they encourage sport in Jamaica.

The short distance running likely involves a lot more brute strength than marathon running.

Which author and where? Magazine and newspaper editors will automatically change “black” to “Black.”

If he did it on a private blog then definitely stop reading.

2. Why’d you get your genome sequenced? You come across as too ignorant of the subject to derive much benefit… but you probably aren’t. If I had the money, I’d get genome sequenced, too… probably.

If Anoinymous is who I think he is he did not pay for the sequencing. And it was a 4x WGS (i.e. not very good, 30x is usual standard these days).

If I had the money, I’d get genome sequenced, too… probably.

You can do a lot with a 30x WGS often on sale for around $250 (well, before Bidenflation anyway). Use WGSExtract to turn the results into other formats which can be used in various contexts.
https://www.geneticlifehacks.com/convert-whole-genome-file/

A sample test provider.
https://nebula.org/blog/30x-wgs/

P.S. You gave him good advice. Chance of him taking it ~0.

The future Edward I escaped his baronial captors and lived to fight another day by challenging them to a horse race and then disappearing over the horizon on his royally-bred charger.

Sorry. I meant to hit AGREE. There’s no way to change it I don’t think.

Re Harper: Who could ever trust a man who wears a hat indoors, especially a designer knockoff of a jungle-fatigue cap?

Re Serwer: A 180-day course of low-dose tetracycline or doxycycline will do wonders for even such a bad case of rosacea. And where do you buy the razors that leave your face with what looks like a 24-hour-stubble growth? Hollywood types have had privileged access to them for forty years.

Just hit the agree button. Should clear the disagree and change it to agree.

Did you ever watch the movie Made in Heaven, Forgetful?

If you don’t know where you’re goin’, it don’t matter what road you take.

~ 18 s in.

If word gets out to White women that Black IQ is lower than White IQ, White women may develop reservations about mating with Blacks.

Word gets out? Wouldn’t this happen when they first talk to them? They may develop reservations about making date reservations.

The Atlantic is the Inquisition.

That is an unfair comparison. The Inquisition held to the presumption of innocence.

Doesn’t Jeff Bezos’ ex-wife own the money sink magazine The Atlantic?

Not Bezos’ ex-wife. Maybe you’re thinking of The Atlantis magazine.

Don’t tell the Italians! The race begins 5 minutes in.

What difference does it make where Steve stands on Russia/Ukraine?

It makes a difference to the ADL, the SPLC, the FBIden, and others who’d pay trolls (a pittance) to come here and whine, treating Steve’s blog like it was the sidewalks of San Francisco.

The topic is not related to anything Steve is interested in.

That doesn’t stop others from telling him how to run his business. ISteve is his platform, his concert stage, and these are his hecklers. If they don’t like his work, why don’t they leave? Because they want to control his work.

I asked Chat GPT if Russia was winning and this is what it says:

The situation between Russia and Ukraine is complex and constantly evolving. It is difficult to determine a clear winner in this context. The conflict has been ongoing for a significant period of time, and there have been various developments and claims from both sides. It is important to stay updated with the latest news from reliable sources to have a comprehensive understanding of the situation.

The best you could call it is a draw. Russia now occupies 50% less Ukrainian territory than it did at the beginning of the war. Their currency has lost 40% of its value from a year ago. Ukrainians are striking targets in Moscow and Crimea. If this is winning I would hate to think what losing is like.

Anyone who thinks “Russia is winning” has been nipping on the copium.

“By this metric, how different are people and gibbons? People and possums? People and mushrooms?”

First of all, the genetic gap between a Human and a gibbon is literally 1,000 X greater than that between Humans of European and African ancestries. You know, degrees do matter. But that is not even the point. The point is that your argument for “race” being real revolves around arbitrarily choosing some traits that Africans statistically differ from Europeans, like the speed at running the 100-meter dash, as evidence for proof. I can use your same metric and argue that “white” Swedes and “black” Bantus belong to the same “race” because they can both digest lactose, while “white” Sicilians belong to a different “race” because they cannot. Why does any of these random traits matter more than any others? What is the *relevance* of this? Your criteria are completely arbitrary. See how stupid your argument for race being real is?

Also, you missed by bigger argument, that all these traits that Europeans and Africans differ on statistically are expressed much more strongly at the individual level. For instance, while the 100-meter dash is dominated by West Africans, there is a “white” Frenchman that can run faster than 99.9999% of all West Africans. Why insist so strongly on “race” something that has never brought anything good, when you can judge people individually for those same traits?

“Who your relatives are tends to be pretty relative.”

All life on Earth is related to each other and is descended from a common ancestor, probably some autotrophic anaerobic bacteria living in some undersea hydrothermal vent some 3.7 billion years ago, that generated energy utilizing the Wood–Ljungdahl pathway via acetic acid. So, let me flip the argument on you and ask you where you draw the line? You acknowledge that ancestry exists in tiers of degrees. So why do you choose arbitrarily to draw the line at continental ancestry? Why stop there? Why not draw it at the national level, or municipal level? Most people don’t recognize even 3rd degree relatives, so who cares that a “white” person is more related to another “white” person than to a “black” person, and that a European Human is more related to an African Human than to a dog? Where do you even draw the line and why is ancestry even relevant? It’s certainly not to most people outside their close nuclear family or 3nd degree of relatedness at best

Yeah, nobody can figure out where Steve is on Covid Lockdowns

Never forget the six gorillion who died in the Lockdownocaust! Nuremburg trials of Lockdownocaust perpetrators now! The mask is the yellow badge! We must erect a museum to commemorate the millions sent to concentration camps for violating stay-at-home orders! Reparations for all the victims of Learning Loss! Mandatory Lockdownocaust education in schools now! You must feel guilty for YOU have inherited the guilt of the Lockdownocaust perpetrators, a guilt that will never go away no matter what you do!

#MuhGrievanceForever

Steve does care about supporting Zelenskyy. He’s very partisan on the issue and is anti-Putin.

Not really. The Ottoman occupation beginning in the 14th century was the big cause of Serb animosity towards Muslims

“the only penalty for felonies was death” … a slight exaggeration, but not by much. The old rhyme against enclosing common land is telling:

The law doth rightly hang the villain who steals the goose from off the common,
But lets the greater villain loose, who steals the common from the goose.

I like that word “rightly”.

Is there a whiter-sounding pair of names than Tyler and Austin?

Well, Tyler was the name of the 10th President. If he had been the first president, they Tyler would have been a popular black surname.

Stephen Austin, known as the Father of Texas, was also responsible for bringing 300 families together with slaves to the Texas territory when it was part of Mexico, so it would be a surprise of there were not a few black Austins in that part of the world.

Both names have strong associations with Texas.

There is a third ethnic group in the conflict. Jews. Zelensky is Jewish. They oh the main drivers of this war. Of course, they’re not doing any of the fighting.

Ukrainians and Russians would have come to a settlement over a year ago and saved 500,000 lives. But this third ethnic group undercut that deal.

“The best you could call it is a draw.”

Like the song says, every hand’s a winner and every hand’s a loser. That being said, I would also point that the people who think Ukraine is losing (as opposed to taking too long to win despite the lack of air cover and other things those same people decided long ago that Ukraine wasn’t going to get) turn out to be, upon closer inspection of their paper trails, the very same people who told us at the beginning that Ukraine wouldn’t last more than a couple of weeks and who have kept doubling down ever since (which belies the claim that every hand’s a winner, but whatever). I.e., the Douglas Macgregor strategy of telling us twice a month that Ukraine is just two weeks away from total collapse, and hoping everyone else suffers from the same short-term memory issues he apparently has to confront. Or else, Daniel Davis, who wrote an editorial in Newsweek two days ago about how we need a new policy because can “no longer hide the truth”, turns out to have always been spouting the same line since the beginning of the war. I.e., he has no problem whatsoever hiding the truth that his forecasting ability is abysmal. Or else Samuel Charap in the New Yorker article that the brother of iSteve-content-generator Masha Gessen wrote a few weeks ago. As that article notes, he’s hoping his stopped-clock strategy will pay off eventually, and that’s about the best one can say for him.

Whereas Russia’s elites have lost faith that Putin can pull this off. (I mean genuine elites, not the pathetic little edgelords and ankle-lickers yapping in awe at Lil’ BB’s genius.) Those who had the wherewithal to think for themselves — e.g. those like Prigozhin and Girkin — came to that conclusion a while ago. And unlike the fellow travelers who are now (as before) predicting Ukraine’s imminent demise, the Russians were far more hopeful previously.

But yeah, the fanboys can always shift the goalposts to where NATO only ever wanted the total annihilation of Russia, so that any scenario in which Russia is left standing — esp. with Lil’ BB still in charge — is a huge heroic win wherein Russia easily withstood the full might of NATO with barely a scratch to show for it. That’s another reason why any cautions that we must give Moscow Lil’ BB and his Kremlin stooges a “face-saving” exit are ludicrous — they’re more than capable of cooking up a set of lies in which they are the winners.

2018 Vdare article on this matter.

How The Death Penalty Saved Civilization

Increasingly, Leftists take advantage of modern technology to do this: Activist groups like the National Coalition to Abolish the Death Penalty have created a virtual cottage industry geared toward virtue-signalling on the death penalty. They use their websites to direct the bleeding hearts to the next execution site, so they can launch a protest rally.

Cutting-edge research, however, reveals just how fantastically ironic this is. It seems that without the death penalty there’d be no internet, no television; in fact, very little civilization.

https://vdare.com/articles/how-the-death-penalty-saved-civilization

No need for a point-by-point rebuttal to The Atlantic review, since @steve_sailer, @monitoringbias, and others have already done that. Let me just comment on what I think the review shows, which is that I was right to address the book to centrists and conservatives, since…

— Richard Hanania (@RichardHanania) September 19, 2023

But let’s assume that I am wrong. Let’s assume that race is real. So what? You can still judge people as individuals,

But seriously though, why would you want to focus on individuals rather than groups? If the other groups are too high a percentage of the surrounding population, who cares how nice some of them might be! However many “good ones” there are is completely drowned out by the general unpleasantness of being racially outnumbered, so much so that you won’t even feel like expending the effort to sift through the crud to find the gold. To cap it off, interactions and friendships with the “good ones” don’t come close to being as rewarding as interactions and friendships with your own people – people you share something important and meaningful in common with – so it’s not as if there’s any actual advantage in thinking of individuals rather than groups.

There are about 40,000 Jews in Ukraine with total population about 47 million.

I find it very hard to believe that Jews are the problem here. The problem isn’t even the Russian population: it’s one non-Jewish man — Putin.

There are also 140,000 Jews in Russia. Why don’t they exert a similar influence?

Thanks! I’ll try that next time I goof up.

That’s good to hear. My viewpoint is the same!

Both names were suburban fads about 30 years ago. As was Taylor for girls. (Weird.) This sort of thing blows away any historical significance. There are Waynes in the Commonwealth now. After Mad Anthony? Brocks in America– after Gen Isaac?

Well, Tyler was the name of the 10th President.

His grandson is still alive at 94. As a Gardiner descendant, I’m his distant cousin.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harrison_Ruffin_Tyler

I like to remind smug Europeans (and Anglospherics, including Americans) that several of our states had abolished the death penalty a good century before they did. Michigan has never had it, Wisconsin has used it once since statehood, 170 years ago. It’s been on and off paper in Rhode Island, but that state hasn’t used it since 1845. (Though they had a notable one in 1676.) Maine and Minnesota abolished it, in response to botched hangings, in 1887 and 1911 respectively.

Europeans weren’t leaders on abolition, they’re in the middle of the pack.

So these states are more dangerous than Europe? And Europe deadlier than our states with frequent capital punishment?

“Banning abortion and believing in Jesus are just not things that appeal to people of high verbal IQ.”

Abortion is manifestly murder. Thinking otherwise is nothing but sophistry. If that’s what appeals to “people of high verbal IQ,” too bad for them.

Thanks! I’ll try that next time I goof up.

DO IT NOW, THERE’S NO TIME LIMIT FFS WHY DO PEOPLE ALWAYS REFUSE TO CHANGE IT THE BUTTON’S RIGHT THERE

😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤 😩 😤

Heheheh nice one “Frau”.

Jews couldn’t possibly have outsized influence due to their small population. It’s not like our news media is influenced by the ADL.

Most of the people driving this war were Jewish. Look at the people in the state department and intelligence agencies in the West – that is the ones who are passionate about defeating Russia. From neocons to neoliberals.

Yes, there are Jews inside of Russia and guess what, they all pretty much hate Russians too.

It’s not that Jews are pro-ukrainian, they’re using them as cannon fodder in their larger war against white gentiles.

How come you as a liberal hate black people? Aren’t you supposed to be for racial equality?

I hope The Atlantic doesn’t get its way because this book could really be the game changer!

Servant to Royals gets promoted to serving the real Royals.
Each week he wheels a cart with a platter of human flesh into a room, then reflects light from a particular stone into the corners of a huge mirror. Out of the mirror shambles a gigantic shape of bundled rags and foul odors, which stoops over the platter and dines. This is the prince. They don’t speak of course, but over time, the setvant feels an affinity.
Eventually he is promoted to the platter. But he reassures a friend, don’t worry, I think he likes me.

It’s an irony. Steve’s smarter than establishment propaganda except when it comes to cold war era boomer brainwashing. Steve — against Invade The World, Invite The World — except regarding the neocon Project to Exterminate Ukrainians With Their Cooperation, and Lose a Lot of Money, in which case Steve endorses Invade The World, Invite The World.

Serbian history is fascinating. Because they had silver mines, their national aspirations had ways and means. Because they were the best fighters around, even their conquerors hired them as mercenaries. And their conquerors hired them knowing that one day the conquest would be violently reversed. And their conquerors hired them to put down — the conquerors’ brothers. Because the Sultan had a dozen sons and all were viable heirs. So the main focus of fighting was within the family.

From The Atlantic:

The idea of superior white intelligence that he implicitly and explicitly refers to throughout the book rests on bad studies and bad science that have long been refuted. The white-Black “IQ gap” that racists such as Hanania latch onto has likewise been explained by environmental factors. …

I note that this claim “is not footnoted or otherwise supported with evidence.”

If Richard Hanania believes that cognitive ability differs among human populations, why is he a proponent of open borders?

In order to destroy the White genome?

Who your relatives are tends to be pretty relative.

What do you mean by this?

Ukrainians and Russians would have come to a settlement over a year ago and saved 500,000 lives.

How?

She still hasn’t. I don’t know what the time limit is, but I recall changing one of these nearly 12 hours later. I’m gonna experiment with this.

Thank you Frau, and others.

Since the UN is a moral authority, let’s not forget what they said about genocide:

Article I
The Contracting Parties confirm that genocide, whether committed in time of peace or in time of war, is a crime under international law which they undertake to prevent and to punish.

Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group

Article III
The following acts shall be punishable:
(a) Genocide;
(b) Conspiracy to commit genocide;
(c) Direct and public incitement to commit genocide;

How should White countries approach the UN for legal remedy?

chortling

Now there’s a word you don’t hear too often. (Well, I don’t.)

One mention of the word that I remember is Adam Serwer’s piece on Charles Murray’s AEI talk on the research that eventually turned into the book “Coming Apart”. See: https://prospect.org/departments/bell-swerve/

This is how Serwer describes Murray:

On the list of right-wing villains, American Enterprise Institute Scholar Charles Murray ranks somewhere between Ku Klux Klan leader David Duke and the late Dixiecrat turned Republican senator Jesse Helms.

The video of the event is here: https://www.c-span.org/video/?298817-1/charles-murray-state-white-america
(At some point, you can see Serwer in the audience.)

People like Serwer genuinely(?) seem to believe that acknowledging HBD inevitably means the return of Jim Crow segregation, and singling out Blacks for worse treatment.

It’s called “projection”. If liberals got their full HBD freak on, they’d be like Hendrik Verwoerd, only driving a Prius.

OT – Immigration makes us strong:

Kenyan serial killer who murdered elderly victims dies in US prison

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/national/article/2001481877/kenyan-serial-killer-of-elderly-victims-found-dead-in-us-prison

“A Kenyan man who was convicted of murdering two elderly victims and suspected of killing 22 more in Texas was found dead in his prison cell on Tuesday, officials said.”

Why do any of these random traits matter more than any others?

A) They are not random

B) We have societies where things like crime rates and inherent ability are important.

Why insist so strongly on “race”, something that has never brought anything good…

As if we have a choice. “Race” is one of the most in-your-face things we deal with today.

Where do you even draw the line…

Continuum fallacy. Just because there are a gradient of traits does not mean they don’t matter, or that we can’t develop ways to measure and distinguish. Because red blurs into orange does not invalidate our color scheme.

Abortion is manifestly homicide. Homicide and murder are not the same thing. For instance, capital punishment, lethal self-defense, and the killing of the legitimate military targets in war are homicide but not murder. Verbal IQ is all about the ability to understand concepts, so those of high verbal IQ can see through arguments like “abortion is homicide, therefore it’s murder.”

Likewise with “life begins at conception.” That is a scientific fact. But “life begins at conception, therefore an embryo is the same thing as a seven-year-old” is a manifestly illogical argument. If your side is based on making arguments like that, smart people are going to be pushed away.

Great analogy, thank you.

That was an amazing comic book. Pity all the artists are liberals.

They unwittingly told the truth, just six inches off.

https://twitter.com/monitoringbias/status/1703814649131446467

Hanania is right. This is an emotional issue with the Left and there is no reasoning with them. It’s like trying to reason with anti-vaxxers or the “Russia is Winning” folks. There is no amount of facts that you can show them that will change their POV. You have to aim at the reasonable people in the middle because the zealots are not gonna change their mind no matter what you say. They will just cite their version of Col. McGregor or cherry pick and misconstrue more reliable sources and ignore or explain away whatever evidence you show to them. This is like a religion to them.

What is shocking is that The Atlantic, which was once a respectable publication, is publishing this kind of poorly sourced, more emotion than facts, “rebuttal”. There was not even the pretense of even handedness in the critique of the book – Hanania is just pure evil, he is 100% totally wrong and that’s all you need to know.

It’s like trying to reason with anti-vaxxers or the “Russia is Winning” folks. There is no amount of facts t

Oh good, you found a way to fit your pet obsession into yet another thread. Maybe if you say the same thing another 10,000 times people will come to agree with you.

Jack, haven’t you been claiming not to throw the first stone on the OT Russia-Ukraine comments?

I am not changing the subject of this thread – I was just giving examples of the fact that some matters are like “religion” to some people and not really amenable to factual persuasion. This is not exclusive to the Left. Rushists and anti-vaxxers are the right wing equivalent of faith based belief (which pretends to be fact based but which is really not). Hanania in his tweets mentions Baptists as another example.

How can you distinguish faith based belief (which pretends to be factual) from ACTUAL factual belief – the key is whether the belief is amenable to change in the face of new information. NOTHING will change the mind of a true believer. The true believer is sort of like the internet, which just routes around blockages. It’s the same thing for a true believer – if you put a block (contrary information) between him and his belief, he will just route around it somehow. Deny it, change the subject, cite his own favorite alternative sources of “facts” no matter how dubious, etc. He is never going to let the obstacle separate him from his belief.

I asked Chat GPT if Russia was winning

Why? You might as well ask the cat.

It is important to stay updated with the latest news from reliable sources to have a comprehensive understanding of the situation.

No doubt you found this advice very insightful.

Russia now occupies 50% less Ukrainian territory than it did at the beginning of the war.

When, according to you, was “the beginning of the war?”

Ukrainians are striking targets in Moscow and Crimea.

And that’s not all – they’ve also marked for death war skeptics like Tucker Carlson, Glenn Greenwald…they’ve got a little list, starting with poor old Gonzalo Lira,

Surely you are only pretending to be this stupid.

I am referring to the territories in blue. denoting “recaptured Ukrainian territory”.

Some peoplle are old fashioned enough to believe that the more vulnerable the victim, the greater the crime. Of course there are other factors to be considered.

Remember those who said Russia would dismember Ukraine in 6 mos. max?

No kidding, seriously, he has never heard of psychometric testing, not really surprising The Bell Curve is not something I imagine is ever on a social science course reading list, but The Mismeasure of Man often is. In fact it pre-refuted the Bell Curve in 1981! if you read blurbs from later editions, Follow the science, man!

Remember those who said Russia would dismember Ukraine in 6 mos. max?

And Russia would have been successful if the jews and the US government hadn’t involved themselves in order to keep the bloodshed going.

“And Russia would have been successful if the jews and the US government “

Ah yes, another round of the old “And I would’ve gotten away with it, too, if it weren’t for you meddling kids!”

And the fanboys are STILL defending him! Awww, how could Putin be expected to foresee something that every other diplomat in NATO told him over and over was going to happen? No, we gotta blame the Jews and Americans.

Dec 6 2021 — U.S. President Joe Biden will warn Russian President Vladimir Putin of severe economic consequences should Russia go ahead with an invasion of Ukraine

Dec 9 2021 Germany’s new foreign minister Annalena Baerbock doubled down on warnings from western politicians to Russia over Ukraine

Nov 13 2021 France warns Russia over Ukraine

Dec 23 2021 UK warns Russia against ‘strategic mistake’ over Ukraine

Maybe Putin should have thought of that before invading Ukraine?

Maybe the United States shouldn’t be furthering the bloodshed? And maybe the United States shouldn’t have been meddling in the Ukraine for years, provoking the war?

You could bring a peace settlement overnight if you wanted to.

We found a topic that Steve Sailer is passionate about! He’s so eager to help Zelensky that he jumps in like a fanboy. Of course, he claims to be a political moderate, but he’s obviously a zealot. He’s just indifferent about the survival of his own people.

“You could bring a peace settlement overnight if you wanted to.”

Overnight? As opposed to the three days that, according to Russian shills like you, was all that Putin’s “special” little military operation was going to need in order to bring “peace” to Ukraine?

Russian propagandists complain about global misinformation regarding Russia. They say they never threatened to take Kyiv in three days.

I've made a compilation of several things they did say about capturing Kyiv/Ukraine. pic.twitter.com/4zWsc5fPVU

— Anton Gerashchenko (@Gerashchenko_en) April 20, 2023

You tried to fool us once, troll — you really think it’ll go better the second time around?

And what kind of a peace will it be, anyway, given that Ukraine is just a “stepping stone” back to Moscow’s glory days?

A key Russian general who Russian President Vladimir Putin promoted this week views the invasion of Ukraine as a mere “stepping stone” to further conflict with Europe:

“How long will the war last?…If we’re talking about Eastern Europe, which we still have to liberate…then it will take longer. Ukraine is just a stepping stone.”

See? Still a whole lot of “liberating” left to do even after Ukraine is “at peace”. Hey, now that you mention it, I do think there is someone else in this drama who else could bring a peace settlement overnight if he really wanted to, but why is it people like you never complain about him?

No one cares about the diversions you bring up. You did that with Covid and now you’re doing it with Ukraine. Shyster lawyer tricks.

What someone’s predictions were 18 months ago doesn’t matter, especially when most of them were based on CIA projections. The CIA put these stories out. Maybe they were lying and it was a psychological operation. Maybe they didn’t know what Russia was actually doing. Maybe they’re just dumb.

But what people are talking about now are the real facts on the ground. The usual suspects got 500,000 people killed over there. There could’ve been a peace deal back in April 2022 but our fake leaders crushed it. 400,000 have died since then.
That’s the important issue. And you constantly calling everyone shills has started to make me wonder if you’re not on the Zelensky payroll. Maybe Steve too. And Greg Cochran.

“We found a topic that Steve Sailer is passionate about! He’s so eager to help Zelensky that he jumps in like a fanboy”

And there they go again. Oh, those fanboys — always projecting their love of Putin onto others by thinking anyone cares about Zelensky anywhere close to how they themselves idolize Lil’ BB.

Sorry to break it to you, but as The New Yorker article noted previously pointed out, Zelensky will forever be regarded by his generals and plenty of other Ukrainians as the man who was dumb enough to trust Putin not to invade, even as the Americans were telling him an invasion was imminent.

In the Moscow narrative that the trolls kept repeating over and over the past year and a half, the generals are always just days away from staging a coup because they’re tired of being sent to die in “Zelensky’s war “and want to instead install someone who will finally accept merciful defeat. The reality is the opposite — they’re actually more worried that Zelensky will be dumb enough to trust the Russians yet again.

One former official, … was not an enemy, but he did blame the Zelensky administration for its lighthearted and irresponsible attitude toward the Russian troop buildup in 2021. The former official was getting his family out of the country and making preparations for what he believed was an imminent attack. Meanwhile, Zelensky was telling people to remain calm and citing Ukraine’s sovereign rights. This, the former official said, was a grave miscalculation. “When there’s a crazy person next to you with a Kalashnikov, you don’t start talking to him about the U.N. Charter!”

And I’m not endorsing the article — arguably, it’s little more than useful idiocy on Russia’s behalf, though on a high enough level so as to make it past the New Yorker’s fact checkers — but given what the trolls are offering, it’s the most balanced thing we’re likely to get from the Russian side.

“[Sailer’s] just indifferent about the survival of his own people.”

No, he just didn’t swap out loyalty to his own people with loyalty to Putin — you know, the way you did.

‘Maybe Putin should have thought of that before invading Ukraine?

“What if they fight back? What if richer countries help them fight back?”’

The problem is that if he waited, then we’d made it clear the Ukraine was going to join NATO — and then all NATO members would be legally bound to go to war with Russia if he decided he just had to do something about the Ukraine.

…as I’m sure we realized full well. Hence our pushing that particular button. Why live with the status quo if you can bring about devastation?

However, while I usually focus on our errors — since that is what is pertinent — it’s worth noting that Putin screwed the pooch here as well.

It was all supposed to be Czechoslovakia 1968. The big, bad bear charges, and everyone rolls over. The force Putin invaded the Ukraine with was grotesquely inadequate to overcome widespread resistance — and when it met with widespread resistance, a fiasco promptly ensued.

The irony is that if there had been any desire for a peaceful resolution to the whole mess on our part at all, that Putin’s invasion had crashed and burned created a window of opportunity. That was the one point at which we would have been able to give Putin his absolute minima, allowed him to call it a win, and ended this horrific nonsense.

Now, Russia’s put her head down, and will win — if only because the entire population of the Ukraine is leaving the country. That doesn’t do anyone any good at all — except for China and Biden’s handlers.

But hey. It gave Biden something to say for his first State of the Union Address — and isn’t that what matters? Plus, I suspect a lot of that one hundred and twenty billion has made a round trip right back to here and into certain pockets — why else the insistence on no accounting?

So from some points of view, it’s all been a win-win.

“No one cares about the diversions you bring up.”

Diversions? Like claiming that it is the US that is furthering the bloodshed, as opposed to your boy Putin? You don’t think that’s a diversion? Take your own medicine, little guy, then you might do better business trafficking those copium pills.

“What someone’s predictions were 18 months ago doesn’t matter, especially when most of them were based on CIA projections.”

I’m still learning some of these names/faces, but as far as I can tell, the pundits in the above tweet included Russian-government operatives like Solovyov, Lukasenko, Simonyan, and Skabeyeva (and maybe even Dugin — not sure who the first guy at the end was, but here’s a nice little rogue’s gallery.). You really want to tell me any of them are actually basing their forecasts on CIA projections? If that’s the case, the fix is in, and Putin is in bigger trouble than he’s admitting. In any case, if they’re just doubling down today on whatever failed 3-day-SMO prediction they’ve been repeatedly issuing over the last year and a half, why would anyone listen to them this time around when they’re telling us peace could happen “overnight”? Especially if the “facts on the ground” include the one about how your boy failed to take Kyiv even after a year and a half (though they’re still threatening to do all that and worse), and how all those Russian rockets that were supposed to dismantle the Ukrainian power grid and cripple the country and force them to accept Moscow have — according to those very same Russian trolls — dwindled away into a never-ending party? So much for facts on the ground.

“There could’ve been a peace deal back in April 2022 but our fake leaders crushed it.”

Yeah, yeah, it would have all been swell if it weren’t for those blasted meddlin’ kids in the van and the big dog. We heard you the first time. And is this like the “peace” that Merkel and others promised us once we gave Putin back Crimea? That wasn’t as peaceful as you make it out to be. Or you mean the peace wherein Ukraine is just a “stepping stone” to taking back Eastern Europe? In that case, Ukrainians will have to show their gratitude for being liberated by serving as the cannon fodder for Putin’s next meat-grinder.

Again, if that’s the peace your boy is offering, don’t blame our fake leaders for crushing it. He needs to up his offer.

Oh – so that’s what you’re on about.

So would you agree that Russia poses no serious threat to Western Europe?

Alright, I'll respond to this.

At no point did I deny that IQ gaps exist and have been measured. My point is that Hanania entirely fails to acknowledge the mainstream scientific consensus that those gaps have explanations that go beyond genetics (e.g. environmental factors) 1/ https://t.co/gR34oXr2d1

— Tyler Austin Harper (@Tyler_A_Harper) September 18, 2023

There could’ve been a peace deal back in April 2022 but our fake leaders crushed it.

Do you have a citation for that?