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Where Have All the Rioters Gone?
Good jobs in black communities have disappeared, evictions are the norm, and extreme poverty is rising. Cities should be exploding—but they aren’t.
MATTHEW DESMOND
… Recent years have witnessed spates of unrest protesting police violence in Ferguson, Missouri, and beyond, but these have been short-lived affairs resulting in few serious injuries and restrained arson. The 2015 unrest in Baltimore after Freddie Gray died in police custody resulted in an estimated $9 million in property damage and no deaths. The 1992 L.A. riots, by comparison, caused more than $1 billion in property damage and 63 deaths.
I blame Trump.
They sound absolutely crushed, don’t they? Should we blame Trump?
That reminds me of Sudhir Venkatesh writing “It goes without saying that I miss a good old-fashioned riot.” Since he’s a sociologist, perhaps he’d listen to Fabio Rojas: deprivation theory is wrong.
Are those the cause or results of the rioting in the 60s onward? It’s not very clear in the article.
Oskar Schindler went from a neither-do-well to owner of a formerly Jewish owned business because he was of the right racial background after Kristallnacht. My theory is that survivor bias means that most of the current owner-operators in those communities are “roof Korean”-type of all races. And they had vowed “never again” to those modern day Kristallnacht progrom.
Consider how cheap it would have been for Lincoln to mandate the evacuation of former slaves to Liberia after the civil war, compared to the cost of keeping them and their tens of millions of descendants in the United States. Catastrophic mistake.
These new citizens bring with them modest wealth, which would certainly be of some benefit to their new home/host country. The US would benefit over the long run; reduced assistance payments, incarceration costs, social disruption, ...
Heck maybe it would even help a few of those that take advantage of the offer? Give them a fresh start and certainly over time, a new outlook.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @epebble
He tried to broker a deal to send them to central and South America, but those governments refused to take them, and were offended that Lincoln even thought to try to unload his negro problem upon them.
And finally, he convinced congress to set aside a fund of a few hundred thousand dollars to initiate pilot programs to get the blacks out as opportunities seemed to arise, or new strategies ensued, but John Wilkes Booth shot him, interest in the project waned after his death with no committed leadership to take up where Lincoln left off, and nothing much progressed afterwards.
If John Wilkes Booth hadn’t assasinated him, it’s very fair to assume there would be a lot fewer blacks in America today. If the Lincoln memorial was politically correct, Lincoln would be slumped over in his chair, with a statue of Booth behind him, smiling victoriously, with a drawn pistol.
Blacks and white rednecks would rejoice. Whites for an avenged South, and blacks for a dead double-crossing Lincoln.
Let’s get that Facebook activist page started!
Now who had the best motive to arrange for Lincoln, known at least to hope blacks could be shipped to Africa, or at least the Caribbean, to be killed?Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
Southern land owners, and Northern carpetbaggers, wanted the cheap labor. It made no economic sense to send blacks to Africa. Before automation and outsourcing eradicated the need for manual labor, and mass immigration took all the domestic servant jobs, blacks actually played a constructive role in the US economy.Replies: @Cleburne
First of all, good thing your career ends if you imply anything about certain people based on the logic that this might eventually result in violence against them, but Desmond here can call for white property owners to be attacked and killed.
Second of all, maybe poverty doesn’t cause crime. Maybe riots are a result of agitators.
Third of all, we have been having riots, and they were expressly the direct result of publicly known agitators operating on foreign money and shipping in people from out of town.
I want to believe that a combination of local departments putting the pieces together, and the higher-ups changing their attitude under the new boss, have made a recurrence of Ferguson impossible, but I guess we’ll see now that BLM is trying to resurrect itself in Sacramento.
There goes the Democrat midterm election strategy.
No wait a minute, a critical mass of riots would help Republican Law-&-Order™ candidates.
Blacks don’t dominate the inner city like they used to. Most large urban areas now have significant Hispanic populations who have been remarkably efficient at cleansing blacks out of valuable real estate.
Also the rise in birth control and arrests have dramatically reduced the young black male population.
Finally there aren’t many Black Power™ politicians left who would advocate old fashioned chimping out. Gone are the likes of Coleman Young, Sharpe James, and Maynard Jackson. Almost every inner city pol now is in the pocket of developers and finance.
In short, homie ain’t got a leg to stand on.
Maybe a lot of them have gone where they can’t riot?
https://www.nap.edu/read/18613/chapter/4#62
Video games, primarily. As crime-reduction strategies go, handing out a free XBox to the bottom 10% of 12-25 year olds is probably quite cost effective.
In Ferguson, there wasn't even that to loot. Just a few immigrant convenience stores and negro 'beauty shops'.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
The cities aren’t exploding because they’re leaking sewage into the surrounding towns where the damage is more pernicious and more easily ignored by the states propaganda arm .
To use a cliche: this is a feature, not a bug.
Less crack cocaine and more sizzurp /purple drank.
He did pilot programs in 1864. The slaves kept on dying.
Anon, as you say, way too late for any kind of mandate. Instead, offer anyone born in the USA, irrespective of race, maybe $100,000 to permanently give up citizenship and all rights of re-entry if they’ll initially become a citizen of any number of the poorest of the worlds countries; including Liberia.
These new citizens bring with them modest wealth, which would certainly be of some benefit to their new home/host country. The US would benefit over the long run; reduced assistance payments, incarceration costs, social disruption, …
Heck maybe it would even help a few of those that take advantage of the offer? Give them a fresh start and certainly over time, a new outlook.
The ethnic cleansing of American blacks with migrants seems to be paying its dividends.
They lament the lack of killing in the recent BLM riots, compared to 62 in LA 1992, & earlier mass deaths. They’re truly Satanic.
This and general passivity of humanity. The truth is that we’ve all basically become Men Without Chests.
It must be hard writing articles where one group is always blame free. No matter the context or situation, High Liberals, such as Matthew Desmond, always grant blacks little agency. Everything happens to blacks nothing is ever caused by blacks.
Anyway I read his book “Eviction”. It was pretty good but it’s interesting how he details some of the poor life choices of those being evicted but still blames society or racism for their plight.
Which is fine as far as it goes, but it was slightly scary how similar all of the reviews were. Either they're written by bots, or SJWs are even more in lockstep than we think, or they are SJW bots. Hmm.
He’s even upset that social service organizations are actually serving these communities. Why accept the largesse of the willing when you can coerce more from your fellow citizens by destroying public and private property, and killing a few in the process?
It’s one of those phrases that really gives away the game. His boss (Jeffrey Goldberg) and his boss (Bob Cohn) must enjoy a little frisson in their nether regions when reading a pronouncement like that. I’d say his future in journalism looks safe for the time being.
Of course, he always has a fallback position at Princeton. But it’s both scary and sad that the very last thing these people want is peace and quiet.
What is this? Some kind of fetishisation of Big Black Bodies? (He does, of course, talk about black bodies rather than black people.) Is he an agent provocateur? He can’t be this stupid, surely?
Where have all the $.15 hamburgers gone?
And you know, if it’s one thing Dr. King is known for, it’s advocating violence.
Honestly, the greatest favor whites did for King and his legacy was killing him. If he had lived, he would have ended up like the race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson--doing commercials for shady payday loan companies in the ghetto and chasing ambulances--as opposed to a national saint with a holiday named after him.Replies: @Jake, @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @hhsiii
Sending blacks back to Africa was very expensive. Not a viable option after the debt incurred by administrating a Civil War. American blacks died like flies in Haiti and the Jamaica. Lincoln wasn’t down with sending blacks to almost certain wretched deaths. He also believed that full support of negro leaders was essential, and they wouldn’t enthusiastic.
He tried to broker a deal to send them to central and South America, but those governments refused to take them, and were offended that Lincoln even thought to try to unload his negro problem upon them.
And finally, he convinced congress to set aside a fund of a few hundred thousand dollars to initiate pilot programs to get the blacks out as opportunities seemed to arise, or new strategies ensued, but John Wilkes Booth shot him, interest in the project waned after his death with no committed leadership to take up where Lincoln left off, and nothing much progressed afterwards.
If John Wilkes Booth hadn’t assasinated him, it’s very fair to assume there would be a lot fewer blacks in America today. If the Lincoln memorial was politically correct, Lincoln would be slumped over in his chair, with a statue of Booth behind him, smiling victoriously, with a drawn pistol.
Blacks and white rednecks would rejoice. Whites for an avenged South, and blacks for a dead double-crossing Lincoln.
Let’s get that Facebook activist page started!
Anyway I read his book “Eviction”. It was pretty good but it’s interesting how he details some of the poor life choices of those being evicted but still blames society or racism for their plight.Replies: @Mishra
After reading your post, I went on Amazon and read roughly 100 reader reviews of “Evicted”. About 97 or 98 of them took the (nearly identical) form of “OMG everyone must read this book! It’s like so true about how the system holds poor people down! We need to have an urgent national dialog about this starting today!”
Which is fine as far as it goes, but it was slightly scary how similar all of the reviews were. Either they’re written by bots, or SJWs are even more in lockstep than we think, or they are SJW bots. Hmm.
From the article:
“Recent years have witnessed spates of unrest protesting police violence in Ferguson, Missouri, and beyond, but these have been short-lived affairs resulting in few serious injuries and restrained arson.”
Ah. So the arson was “restrained,” eh? Well, that’s fine than. Nothing to see here.
Probably a lot of truth to this. Might also suggest that the remaining urban ghettos have been so stripped of business there is really nothing left to loot. Fifty years ago, after M.L. King was shot, there were still substantial commercial districts downtown adjacent to the ‘hood’. As I recall during the most recent urban ‘unrest’ in Baltimore there was only a lone CVS drugstore in the vicinity of the riot to be looted though bands of hoodrats did go on the prowl and broke into other pharmacies as the police stood down.
In Ferguson, there wasn’t even that to loot. Just a few immigrant convenience stores and negro ‘beauty shops’.
And you know, if it’s one thing Dr. King is known for, it’s advocating violence.Replies: @Selvar, @TheJester
So-called “nonviolence” was just a propaganda tactic to get the sympathy of gullible white liberals. King had no problem with violence when it came from black rioters.
Honestly, the greatest favor whites did for King and his legacy was killing him. If he had lived, he would have ended up like the race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson–doing commercials for shady payday loan companies in the ghetto and chasing ambulances–as opposed to a national saint with a holiday named after him.
Do they really think the sainted Nelson Mandela disapproved of what she was doing? Haven't they read Machiavelli?
These are the same kinds of people who in another era thought Beria cooked up the Gulag on his own and that if "Stalin only knew" he would have put an end to it all.Replies: @Authenticjazzman
The original Deep State, which was 100% northeastern and of 100% pure Anglo-Saxon Puritan stock wanted those freed slaves here.
Now who had the best motive to arrange for Lincoln, known at least to hope blacks could be shipped to Africa, or at least the Caribbean, to be killed?
But you're suggesting that Booth was "activated" by Northern money interests, rather than by those with ties to the Confederacy.
(How well did Booth and Andrew Johnson know each other? Is it true they had shared mistresses in Nashville in February, 1864?)
I am not necessarily disagreeing with you, just very curious.
If you've got details, please share them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/04/13/assassins-a-confederate-spy-was-accused-of-helping-kill-abraham-lincoln-then-he-vanished/?utm_term=.8ef0ea1f0250
Honestly, the greatest favor whites did for King and his legacy was killing him. If he had lived, he would have ended up like the race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson--doing commercials for shady payday loan companies in the ghetto and chasing ambulances--as opposed to a national saint with a holiday named after him.Replies: @Jake, @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @hhsiii
King repeatedly in speeches and writings for publication drew attention to himself in comparison to worse black elements, often saying directly that if white America did not give him what he wanted for black America, then the really bad Numinous Negroes would riot.
Any links for that?
And the crime rate would be double.
Reasonable people can disagree about the extent to which (or whether) disparate incarceration rates are a function of systemic racism, or what causes disparate crime rates, but anyone worth listening to will acknowledge that blacks commit more crimes, and more violent crimes, on average per capita than whites do. To claim or imply that disparate incarceration rates are entirely a function of racism is to disqualify oneself from the debate.
I pronounce you "Guilty"--of noticing.
The left is always hoping for ‘uprisings’ or flat out revolution to show that their time is finally at hand. Never mind that the losers in all black urban riots are the blacks themselves as they drive out businesses and depress property values to the point that no one has any equity in their property and/or other groups eventually swoop in and get cheap real estate for future redevelopment.
Anyway, obviously in cities like Baltimore and St. Louis with a large black presence it’s still possible for things to get out of hand, but as blacks become only the 3rd largest demographic group it seems less likely if they are outnumbered by both whites and Hispanics in a given area. Perhaps its dawning on some that black political power hit its peak during the Obama era and as they are eclipsed in numbers and economic power by Latinos there are actually fewer and fewer people who feel like the condition of black America is the pre-eminent social issue we should all be concerned with.
Riots are an expression of power. Black power has declined significantly. Therefore.
Honestly, the greatest favor whites did for King and his legacy was killing him. If he had lived, he would have ended up like the race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson--doing commercials for shady payday loan companies in the ghetto and chasing ambulances--as opposed to a national saint with a holiday named after him.Replies: @Jake, @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @hhsiii
Well said. Jackson was a close associate of King, and the way Jackson has chosen to spend the past fifty years strongly suggests that King would have dropped the saint act and reverted to the shameless race-hustling that has proven to be so profitable.
“often saying directly that if white America did not give him what he wanted for black America, then the really bad Numinous Negroes would riot”
Any links for that?
Consider how cheap it would have been for Lincoln to mandate the evacuation of former slaves to Liberia after the civil war,
Southern land owners, and Northern carpetbaggers, wanted the cheap labor. It made no economic sense to send blacks to Africa. Before automation and outsourcing eradicated the need for manual labor, and mass immigration took all the domestic servant jobs, blacks actually played a constructive role in the US economy.
Honestly, the greatest favor whites did for King and his legacy was killing him. If he had lived, he would have ended up like the race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson--doing commercials for shady payday loan companies in the ghetto and chasing ambulances--as opposed to a national saint with a holiday named after him.Replies: @Jake, @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @hhsiii
Absolutely. The recent death of Winnie Mandela provides another example. Liberal/leftists despise her for the murderous violence she instigated, and have been vocally denouncing her in obituaries.
Do they really think the sainted Nelson Mandela disapproved of what she was doing? Haven’t they read Machiavelli?
These are the same kinds of people who in another era thought Beria cooked up the Gulag on his own and that if “Stalin only knew” he would have put an end to it all.
Utter nonsense.
There might be a few remote examples of such fabricated, phoney sentiments but otherwise such as in every issue involving leftist violence : Black violence is always "beneficial" to the cause, and can be justified, through the twisting and distortion of events and reportings.
She is being eulogized throughout all of european media as a hero of humans rights, and defender of the "downtrodden" black folks.
Knowing the sick, perverted leftist mind, nothing else can be expected.
Her husband was a lunatic non-plus-ultra.
Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.
And you know, if it’s one thing Dr. King is known for, it’s advocating violence.Replies: @Selvar, @TheJester
Next, MLK will be portrayed as “walking on water”. I ran across a blurb the other day that claimed that, had he lived, MLK would have done away with poverty in America. This would have been a first in human history.
Why? Because MLK gave a speech in which he claimed that White America had the resources to do away with poverty but refused to do so. (Whites, you see, are s-o-o evil and s-o-o racist!)
What was MLK talking about? Reparations, a Nixon-like negative income tax rebate, a guaranteed minimum income, a forced redistribution of wealth, other gibsmedats? Would Whites have participated in any of these poverty reduction schemes?
Sounds more like, “From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.” It does seem that anyone who advocates using the police powers of the state to seize the property and resources of the “haves” and redistribute them to the “have-nots” gravitates to the Marxist ideology and frame of reference.
However, we have been using this frame of reference for 54 years in seemingly endless cycles of affirmative action and other government-mandated disparate gap resolutions designed to turn “have-nots” into “haves”. Nothing appears to stick … nothing appears to work.
Perhaps there is a reason. The SJWs never tell us what happens the day after a redistribution is complete … and the development of disparate gaps in income, wealth, power, political influence, and social justice start all over again; that is, that there are differences in human values, innate abilities, and life choices that lead to disparate wealth and power.
I get it. The Dictatorship of the Proletariat led by a Politbureau of SJWs needs to stay in power indefinitely to ensure this doesn’t happen. Continual political agitation, government-mandated behaviors, and disparate gap resolutions to ensure that its subject populations are always categorized and regulated in the right measures.
Question: Does the “swamp” currently resident in Washington D.C. function like a Politbureau?
Black urban concentrations have been dispersed.
They “should be exploding”??
The soft racism of low expectations.
Perhaps black bodies are focused on fratricide.
Chicago violence: 7 killed in one neighborhood in 12 hours
Aamer Madhani, USA TODAY
CHICAGO (March 30, 2018) Seven people, including four men killed in a gang-retaliation attack at a fast-food restaurant and a pregnant woman found with a gunshot wound to the head, were gunned down Thursday, March 29th, in three separate incidents within blocks of each other, police said.
The latest convulsion of violence, which occurred over a 12-hour period in the city’s South Shore neighborhood, comes as Chicago tallied nearly 900 murders in the past 15 months.
What the hell do you call Ferguson and Baltimore? Negroes will riot again, sure as the sun rises in the East. Only a matter of time.
Did you check out this incipient riot? I mean, it was hilarious, just a riot. And so well-spoken.
Stephon Clark. May my children grow up to be just as saintly.
One thing, and one thing only causes blacks to riot – with the proviso that the black population shares a living space with any other ethnicity, (except Arabs, curiously), that is the death, (or perhaps serious beating), of a black at the hands of the non black ethnicity.
Always but always the same trigger. Loss of jobs, bad economy etc etc have no bearing. It’s always the same motive whether in London, Los Angeles or Ferguson.
Basically, it’s a deeply engrained tribal thing.
When the ancient gods of blood-lust have been sated – that is, inevitably a few non black bodies are dropped in reprisal – things go back to ‘normal’, whatever ‘normal’ is.
Blacks will kill blacks daily for the most trivial of reasons, but there never ever is the mass riot accompaniment.
Because police and other whites have become trigger happy
THis is why demographic change is a MSUT
THe only justice will be served is if whites don’t have enogh power to vote themselves in unfair guns
It is indisputable fact that white people are biologically / genetically predisposed to violence and evil, so they must be turned into minorities in every nation where they currently constitute a majority. Only a white supremacist would deny the fact that white people are innately inferior to People of Color in every conceivable way. History, statistics and biology prove white inferiority beyond a shadow of a doubt. As white people are inherently horrible and gross and repugnant, replacing them will bring about a better world.
Just read Leonard Pitts and Ta-Nehisi Coates.
Race is not real, it's a social construct designed to oppress others and deny the fact that all people are equal regardless of race. White people are the nauseating offspring of rhesus monkeys and neanderthals. People of Color are fully human.
Your grandkids will be brown and there's nothing you can do about it, mediocre white men!
#Woke
Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
Where are the Hispanic riots? I thought the after action reports on the LA riots showed it was really Hispanics, with Blacks hogging the limelight and maybe being the ‘vanguard’ of the rioting.
Also the rise in birth control and arrests have dramatically reduced the young black male population.
Finally there aren't many Black Power™ politicians left who would advocate old fashioned chimping out. Gone are the likes of Coleman Young, Sharpe James, and Maynard Jackson. Almost every inner city pol now is in the pocket of developers and finance.
In short, homie ain't got a leg to stand on.Replies: @Anonymous, @MBlanc46
Mexican and Central American immigrants are helping make American cities great again. Without a steady stream of those guys, there would be no gentrification.
Here’s the author’s c.v., courtesy of the once-great Atlantic Magazine:
“Matthew Desmond, a sociology professor at Princeton, specializes in the study of poverty. He received a MacArthur Fellowship in 2015, and his book Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City won the Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction in 2017.”
‘Nuff said?
Let the hand wringing begin!
Communicating social justice, a new STEM discipline?Replies: @Authenticjazzman, @Authenticjazzman
“And the crime rate would be double.”
I pronounce you “Guilty”–of noticing.
Wow, what a shitty article. It is as though the Atlantic strove to cram as many reasons why people hate the media as possible into one page.
The disappointment over the current supposed lack of violence and destruction was palpable. And the deliberate confusing of correlation with causation was brazen, such as with
Also did a ctrl-f for “video games” and came up empty. Any discussion of the decline in urban street violence that does not contain this phrase is worthless and solely intended as propaganda from one side or another.
Good jobs in black communities have disappeared, evictions are the norm, and extreme poverty is rising. Cities should be exploding—but they aren’t.
That actually contains the answer to its own question.
Black riots since the turn of the century have been significantly less severe than the 1965-72 era of black riots. For instance, compare Baltimore 2015 and Baltimore 1968.
The affirmative action system has absorbed almost all of the black “talent” in the country into the system and driven something of a wedge between them and their own ghetto undertow. This means the “talented” blacks aren’t in the ghetto to lead, provoke and extend riots that happen to break out. The paragraph itself says it all — The people that remain in the urban ghettos are so ratchet and desperate that, even when they get in an orgy of raging out, they can’t do it well or make it last.
That, and you need a questionable police-civilian accost that has a bad outcome for the civilian in order to provoke a black urban riot. They just don’t happen out of the general desperation of poverty.
White men should have “exploded” generations ago, and yet here we are with our ankles firmly in hand asking for more.
It’s easy: Hidden benefit of second amendment. All those evil AR-15s in the hands of suburban dentists, software programmers and salesmen keep the rioters in the ghetto, where damage that can be done is limited. Thousands, perhaps, tens of thousands of lives, have been saved. Thank you, Founding dads.
Mein Gott! We now have a ‘riot shortage’ now? Furguson, Baltimore, et al weren’t enough? The riots of the 1960’s caused whites to throw in the towel. Fortunately, suburban real estate was still accessible and affordable at that time. The white working class and middle class got out. They left a vaccuum into which illegitimacy, disinterest in education, welfare dependency, and alcohol and drug abuse flooded. The results weren’t hard to predict. Oh, add in mass immigration from the Third World, both legal and illegal, and it’s like removing the stop signs on the Highway to Hell.
Software programmers? They’re all Indians now! Corporate America long ago kicked Americans to the curb as far as that profession goes, starting in the 90’s.
THis is why demographic change is a MSUT
THe only justice will be served is if whites don't have enogh power to vote themselves in unfair gunsReplies: @Briny Schmuck, @Authenticjazzman
Race is not biological at all, it’s just an arbitrary social construct. All people are interchangeable, all people are the same. Everybody is equal in all their capacities. However …
It is indisputable fact that white people are biologically / genetically predisposed to violence and evil, so they must be turned into minorities in every nation where they currently constitute a majority. Only a white supremacist would deny the fact that white people are innately inferior to People of Color in every conceivable way. History, statistics and biology prove white inferiority beyond a shadow of a doubt. As white people are inherently horrible and gross and repugnant, replacing them will bring about a better world.
Just read Leonard Pitts and Ta-Nehisi Coates.
Race is not real, it’s a social construct designed to oppress others and deny the fact that all people are equal regardless of race. White people are the nauseating offspring of rhesus monkeys and neanderthals. People of Color are fully human.
Your grandkids will be brown and there’s nothing you can do about it, mediocre white men!
#Woke
Lorene Powell Jobs, widow of Steve Jobs, controls The Atlantic magazine.
The Atlantic Magazine published an article which seemed to display an aching longing for Blacks to run amok in a riot. This article has the forlorn loneliness of an Edward Hopper painting. This writer paid by Lorene Powell Jobs really wants the Blacks to let their hair down in a good old-fashioned murderous riot.
This Lorene Powell Jobs woman is an evil baby boomer billionaire who sponsors writers who long for
the Black Lives Matter mob to really cut loose. This Lorene Powell Jobs woman also pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.
This Lorene Powell Jobs woman profits from the cheap labor misery of Chines girls in factories that produce her Apple products.
Lorene Powell Jobs profits from poor Chinese country girls drawn into the satanic mills of Apple corporation misery. Lorene Powell Jobs lives a life of obscene plutocratic gluttony and wealth while poor country girls in China are flinging themselves off the roofs of Apple manufacturing plants because the working conditions are so horrendous and bleak.
Does Lorene Powell Jobs know that the Apple manufacturing plants in China have to put netting around the buildings so as to catch the poor Chinese country girls who jump off the roofs in a desperate bid to escape the misery of the Apple manufacturing plants?
Lorene Powell Jobs also owns a good chunk of Disney stock. The Disney corporation is notorious for pushing open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens.
Another Web site honored the April 4 anniversary of MLK’s passing by noting his “I Have a Dream” speech calling from a truly colorblind society where a person would be judged “on the content of their character, not the color of their skin.” Many conservatives use this speech to claim that Dr. King would have been horrified by Affirmative Action.
Is this really correct? I once thought it was, but I am wondering whether a race-blind society was a kind of utopian endpoint, much like “from everyone according to their abilities, to everyone according to their needs” Communism was an endpoint where the state had “withered away” but not the Socialist dictatorship-of-the-proletariat political system intended to get to that condition?
Something tells me that Dr. King would have enthusiastically supported Affirmative Action, which is anything but color or race blind, by claiming that his remarks were about a desired endpoint towards which the arc of history was bending but not the transitional state?
My Haitian friends tend to look down on African-Americans since the ancestors of the Haitians rose up and slew the slave-owners and took control of their own country in Biblical fashion, whereas slave rebellions in the US were remarkably few and small in scope.
Probably the answer is that, Wakanda notwithstanding, blacks have it better in the US than anywhere else, which is part of the reason why they do not emigrate in any significant numbers.
Honestly, the greatest favor whites did for King and his legacy was killing him. If he had lived, he would have ended up like the race hustlers Sharpton and Jackson--doing commercials for shady payday loan companies in the ghetto and chasing ambulances--as opposed to a national saint with a holiday named after him.Replies: @Jake, @AndrewR, @Anonymous, @hhsiii
Regardless, his cited inspirations were Gandhi, Thoreau, etc. This tack works better when your “enemies” are the British or the American people, not communists or Nazis.
Whatever his actual goal, non-violence was a calling card, so it’s particularly noteworthy when this Princeton poverty professor uses the anniversary of his death to celebrate violence and lament the lack thereof today. He acts like the Civil Rights Act of 1968 are the fruits of violence and so King’s methods didn’t work, when earlier things like the Voting Rights Act and Civil Rights Acts earlier in the ’60s didn’t depend on riots.
It’s pretty sad that professors and the like think you need to kill white people and destroy property because whites in this country are supposedly so relentlessly racist.
Also, notice how Steve’s point about liberals stuck in the past. He says most race riots in this country are started by whites, and he has to go back to 1919 and the ’40s for examples, aside from 1 rock in ’60s Chicago and a few folks in Milwaukee in the 1960s. Everything else in the 1960s through LA, Ferguson etc., Baltimore, (hey he seems to say, too bad not enough whities died) 50+ years.
I grew up with black teachers, black classmates, back neighbors, black teammates, black principals, black bosses. In NJ and North Carolina and NYC. Born in 1964. You’d think it hadn’t happened. That Jim Crow ended yesterday.
Southern land owners, and Northern carpetbaggers, wanted the cheap labor. It made no economic sense to send blacks to Africa. Before automation and outsourcing eradicated the need for manual labor, and mass immigration took all the domestic servant jobs, blacks actually played a constructive role in the US economy.Replies: @Cleburne
I;d also provide a links (asked for them in another comment chain) to his contention that Oliver Cromwell was the original WASP and English Puritanism a judaizing heresy. Interesting thesis, but I’d like the see the argument.
I still want those 15 cent hamburgers (from the photo in the article).
Do they really think the sainted Nelson Mandela disapproved of what she was doing? Haven't they read Machiavelli?
These are the same kinds of people who in another era thought Beria cooked up the Gulag on his own and that if "Stalin only knew" he would have put an end to it all.Replies: @Authenticjazzman
” Liberal/Leftists despise her for the murderous violence she instigated”
Utter nonsense.
There might be a few remote examples of such fabricated, phoney sentiments but otherwise such as in every issue involving leftist violence : Black violence is always “beneficial” to the cause, and can be justified, through the twisting and distortion of events and reportings.
She is being eulogized throughout all of european media as a hero of humans rights, and defender of the “downtrodden” black folks.
Knowing the sick, perverted leftist mind, nothing else can be expected.
Her husband was a lunatic non-plus-ultra.
Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army Vet, and pro jazz musician.
THis is why demographic change is a MSUT
THe only justice will be served is if whites don't have enogh power to vote themselves in unfair gunsReplies: @Briny Schmuck, @Authenticjazzman
Learn how to spell, you shit-talking fucking moron.
Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.
"Matthew Desmond, a sociology professor at Princeton, specializes in the study of poverty. He received a MacArthur Fellowship in 2015, and his book Evicted: Poverty and Profit in the American City won the Pulitzer Prize for General Nonfiction in 2017."
'Nuff said?
Let the hand wringing begin!Replies: @CCZ
“He graduated with a B.S. degree, summa cum laude, in communications and justice studies. He received a Ph.D. in sociology from the University of Wisconsin-Madison.
Communicating social justice, a new STEM discipline?
Impossible to think of a bigger farce than a "Ph:D" in sociology, seeing as 99% of all "Ph.Ds" are anyway membership cards to the the most pompous, silly-ass club on planet mirth : The world-wide "Doctors" association, with it's ensuing unearned benefits.
Remembering my time in a university town in Germany, with armies of Dummkopf "Herr Doktors" walking around and celebrating themselves and each other 24/7.
Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.
Why not face the truth? Blacks have it very good in America, lots of free stuff that 99 % of the rest of world population can only dream about. Free housing, EBT cards, Obamaphones, unlimited and subsidized serial bastardy for single women, Affirmative Action, handy and free Get-out-of-jail Monopoly Race cards, lionising MSM praise and institutional coverup of their deficiencies etc. Negroes have grown complacent, content and fat. Too much coddling.
Anyone of them who want a job have a job as long as they’re willing to show up and do the work. The rest don’t want a job and are busy dealing and stealing to go with their EBT cards. Many of the men are felons in and out of the correctional system. A huge percentage of the black community is doped up on one thing or another most of the time. Stoned people usually don’t riot unless the prospect of gaining some loot opens up.
Where have all the riots gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the riots gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the riots gone?
All the good loot has been picked out of every town.
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
Or men with tits.
Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
Troll versus troll.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
What exquisite, eloquent, original, winsome humor, marvelous.
Authenticjazzman "Mensa" qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artisit.
Did you check out this incipient riot? I mean, it was hilarious, just a riot. And so well-spoken.
Stephon Clark. May my children grow up to be just as saintly.
I think the first brick should be thrown through Matthew Desmond’s window. He’s such a lovely boy. He deserves the honor.
Anon, a number of good replies to your post, but Lincoln was assassinated April 14, and the surrender of the South happened 5 days earlier. Not a lot of time to plan post war policy.
These new citizens bring with them modest wealth, which would certainly be of some benefit to their new home/host country. The US would benefit over the long run; reduced assistance payments, incarceration costs, social disruption, ...
Heck maybe it would even help a few of those that take advantage of the offer? Give them a fresh start and certainly over time, a new outlook.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @epebble
danand, I will guarantee that the exit check for $100K will be scammed by “Travel Agents” helping the check bearers with their departure plans.
"Recent years have witnessed spates of unrest protesting police violence in Ferguson, Missouri, and beyond, but these have been short-lived affairs resulting in few serious injuries and restrained arson."
Ah. So the arson was "restrained," eh? Well, that's fine than. Nothing to see here.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Selvar, remember Baltimore’s mayor during the Freddie Gray riot, Stephanie Rawlings Blake, urged that the rioters be given space to loot and destroy.
In Ferguson, there wasn't even that to loot. Just a few immigrant convenience stores and negro 'beauty shops'.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
unit, There is a street in Buffalo near the inner city mission, where we volunteer, that has almost 30 vacant lots where houses previously stood. This was the stable neighborhood of my youth. The empty lots are almost like “fire breaks”.
Anyway, obviously in cities like Baltimore and St. Louis with a large black presence it's still possible for things to get out of hand, but as blacks become only the 3rd largest demographic group it seems less likely if they are outnumbered by both whites and Hispanics in a given area. Perhaps its dawning on some that black political power hit its peak during the Obama era and as they are eclipsed in numbers and economic power by Latinos there are actually fewer and fewer people who feel like the condition of black America is the pre-eminent social issue we should all be concerned with.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Arc, article in the Baltimore Sun states that the city of Baltimore is losing 11 people per day to a “fear” exodus.
Surely that’s more than what they lose every day to “gun crime.” For those lines to cross would bode ill for mankind.
Low testosterone. Some kind of environmental toxin is destroying our gonads, both sperm and testosterone production. Either that, Or sperm and testosterone are the products of psychosomatic functions, functions which are being retarded in our amerigan population by brainwashing.
"A new study finds that a drop in testosterone levels over time is more likely to result from a man's behavioral and health changes than by aging. "
""Declining testosterone levels are not an inevitable part of the aging process, as many people think," said study co-author Gary Wittert, MD, professor of medicine at the University of Adelaide in Adelaide, Australia. "Testosterone changes are largely explained by smoking behavior and changes in health status, particularly obesity and depression.""
", the authors analyzed testosterone measurements in more than 1,500 men who had measurements taken at two clinic visits five years apart. "
" they included 1,382 men in the data analysis. Men ranged in age from 35 to 80 years, with an average age of 54."
"Men who had declines in testosterone were more likely to be those who became obese, had stopped smoking or were depressed at either clinic visit,"
"While STOPPING SMOKING may be a cause of a slight DECREASE IN TESTOSTERONE the benefit of quitting smoking is huge."
"It is critical that doctors understand that DECLINING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS are not a natural part of aging and that they ARE MOST LIKELY DUE TO health-related BEHAVIORS or health status itself,"Replies: @Anonymous
I can’t find a link to who said it, but I’ve heard it said that riots don’t happen when things are at their worst, but when things are slowly getting better. When things are at their worst, people are too busy trying to scrape by to riot. But when things start to look up, people want more and riot.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120623144944.htm
“A new study finds that a drop in testosterone levels over time is more likely to result from a man’s behavioral and health changes than by aging. ”
“”Declining testosterone levels are not an inevitable part of the aging process, as many people think,” said study co-author Gary Wittert, MD, professor of medicine at the University of Adelaide in Adelaide, Australia. “Testosterone changes are largely explained by smoking behavior and changes in health status, particularly obesity and depression.””
“, the authors analyzed testosterone measurements in more than 1,500 men who had measurements taken at two clinic visits five years apart. ”
” they included 1,382 men in the data analysis. Men ranged in age from 35 to 80 years, with an average age of 54.”
“Men who had declines in testosterone were more likely to be those who became obese, had stopped smoking or were depressed at either clinic visit,”
“While STOPPING SMOKING may be a cause of a slight DECREASE IN TESTOSTERONE the benefit of quitting smoking is huge.”
“It is critical that doctors understand that DECLINING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS are not a natural part of aging and that they ARE MOST LIKELY DUE TO health-related BEHAVIORS or health status itself,”
These new citizens bring with them modest wealth, which would certainly be of some benefit to their new home/host country. The US would benefit over the long run; reduced assistance payments, incarceration costs, social disruption, ...
Heck maybe it would even help a few of those that take advantage of the offer? Give them a fresh start and certainly over time, a new outlook.Replies: @Buffalo Joe, @epebble
That is a good suggestion. Even better would be to get the government out of paying money and have the market establish the price. That way, someone who values citizenship more can get it while those who may benefit from funds can enjoy their wealth in a less expensive market. Government should be involved to verify undesirables don’t get in but beyond that it should be free. This is also a good immigration policy since there won’t be pressure on population.
The Atlantic fired newly hired Kevin Williamson: http://ace.mu.nu/archives/374670.php
Evidently being a Never Trumper wasn’t woke enough.
This isn’t a new question, IMO. Moynihan raised the same point in the 1960s in asking why riots were breaking out in Detroit in 1967, home to America’s most prosperous black middle class and widely considered (by the standards of the time) a prototype for race models, rather than in, say, Birmingham in the 1930s, where prevailing white racial attitudes were far more barbaric. It’s not to say systematic racism doesn’t play a role, but a far more nuanced one than the lefties would have it. Another factor is black political power being far more diluted with Hispanic and Asian immigration. Up until the 1970s, blacks were for all intents and purposes the overwhelmingly dominant minority in the US. Now, they are a minority within the minority coalition that will inevitably have a harder time holding onto its political power as the decades go on.
Anyway, whatever problems we have now pale in comparison to the late 1960s. It took several decades for many of the neighborhoods in Washington DC to recover from the riot. Whole square miles around Madison Street in Chicago were completely burnt out. Detroit-the whole city-has only just begun to recover in the past 6 years. The nation as a whole looked like it was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. Why liberals want to *relive* that period, unquestionably one of the worst in American history, is beyond me.
Evidently being a Never Trumper wasn't woke enough.Replies: @nebulafox
Screw that SOB, he got what he deserved.
Crane Brinton, Anatomy of a Revolution. When desperate you worry about survival. When confident you might look at the morons in charge and think you can do better. And if enough of you think that at the same time, you might give it a go.
Thanks. I saw the Wikipedia entry, and my library system has a copy. Maybe I’ll check it out.
"A new study finds that a drop in testosterone levels over time is more likely to result from a man's behavioral and health changes than by aging. "
""Declining testosterone levels are not an inevitable part of the aging process, as many people think," said study co-author Gary Wittert, MD, professor of medicine at the University of Adelaide in Adelaide, Australia. "Testosterone changes are largely explained by smoking behavior and changes in health status, particularly obesity and depression.""
", the authors analyzed testosterone measurements in more than 1,500 men who had measurements taken at two clinic visits five years apart. "
" they included 1,382 men in the data analysis. Men ranged in age from 35 to 80 years, with an average age of 54."
"Men who had declines in testosterone were more likely to be those who became obese, had stopped smoking or were depressed at either clinic visit,"
"While STOPPING SMOKING may be a cause of a slight DECREASE IN TESTOSTERONE the benefit of quitting smoking is huge."
"It is critical that doctors understand that DECLINING TESTOSTERONE LEVELS are not a natural part of aging and that they ARE MOST LIKELY DUE TO health-related BEHAVIORS or health status itself,"Replies: @Anonymous
Yes it’s just obesity. Fatties can’t get it up and never could. That’s been a staple of comic humor since forever.
It’s worth it. Some of his details are shakey (his analysis of Russian literature is unintentionally hilarious) but the main arguments are solid and it was a celebrated text during the Cold War.
The outright frustration at the lack of rioting readiness by these elitist Lefty-Jewish writers goes beyond the Negro question. Progressive activists were in a similar manner disappointed when the White proletariat was no longer willing to riot and make revolution.
As Oswald Spengler acidly put it in his 1934 book The Hour of Decision:
http://home.alphalink.com.au/~radnat/spengler/hourfour.html
“In a letter to Marx on the 9th May 1851 Engels speaks of the democratic Red and Communistic mob, and on the 11th December 1851 writes to him: “What is the rabble good for if it forgets how to fight?”
The manual worker is merely a means to the private ends of professional revolutionaries. He is to fight for the satisfaction of their hatred of the conservative forces and their thirst for power. [33] ”
Communicating social justice, a new STEM discipline?Replies: @Authenticjazzman, @Authenticjazzman
” Ph.D in sociology”
Impossible to think of a bigger farce than a “Ph:D” in sociology, seeing as 99% of all “Ph.Ds” are anyway membership cards to the the most pompous, silly-ass club on planet mirth : The world-wide “Doctors” association, with it’s ensuing unearned benefits.
Remembering my time in a university town in Germany, with armies of Dummkopf “Herr Doktors” walking around and celebrating themselves and each other 24/7.
Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro Jazz musician.
” Troll versus troll”
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
What exquisite, eloquent, original, winsome humor, marvelous.
Authenticjazzman “Mensa” qualified since 1973, airborne trained US Army vet, and pro jazz artisit.
Communicating social justice, a new STEM discipline?Replies: @Authenticjazzman, @Authenticjazzman
” He received a Ph.D in sociology”
Deleted due to duplication
Matthew Desmond is a sociology prof at Princeton. He left Harvard for there last year and elected to live in the 75% white and Asian North Brunswick Township.
I’m guessing that the township’s 15% black population isn’t likely to ‘splode his neighborhood anytime soon:
The area is being rapidly gentrified by Princeton faculty and staff looking for a short commute between their Ivy League jobs/paychecks and Diversity.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-jersey/2335670-diverse-community-commutable-princeton-two-elementary.html#post47201676
http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-jersey/614680-looking-ethnically-diverse-towns.html#post8235844
http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-jersey/827412-bi-racial-family-looking-good-schools-3.html#post12026500
(One of my occasional hobbies is observing how people talk all around Certain Topics on the City Data forums. People wanting easy commutes to generally ghetto-surrounded Ivy League campuses is a terrific observational focus.)
Desmond is young (about 35) so apparently either doesn’t have school-aged children yet…or plans to shuttle them around via vehicle to private schools or whatever.
In any event, it’s been interesting to watch these Ivy Leaguers adopt Diversity Hunting as their top-chic lifestyle accoutrement. Apparently having children for that purpose is very ’90s by now…and doesn’t give them nearly the bragging rights that living Purposefully declasse does. Which leads one to wonder what they spend their family and professional money on. Travel, probably. Or saving up for that doomstead in Uruguay or Chile.
http://www.city-data.com/city/North-Brunswick-Township-New-Jersey.html
http://www.city-data.com/forum/new-jersey/2518586-north-brunswick-school-system-ok-bad.html#post42747701
Now who had the best motive to arrange for Lincoln, known at least to hope blacks could be shipped to Africa, or at least the Caribbean, to be killed?Replies: @Paul Jolliffe
We all know Booth almost certainly had some murky ties to the Confederate Secret Service, ties that 150 years later defy easy analysis.
But you’re suggesting that Booth was “activated” by Northern money interests, rather than by those with ties to the Confederacy.
(How well did Booth and Andrew Johnson know each other? Is it true they had shared mistresses in Nashville in February, 1864?)
I am not necessarily disagreeing with you, just very curious.
If you’ve got details, please share them.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2017/04/13/assassins-a-confederate-spy-was-accused-of-helping-kill-abraham-lincoln-then-he-vanished/?utm_term=.8ef0ea1f0250
Also the rise in birth control and arrests have dramatically reduced the young black male population.
Finally there aren't many Black Power™ politicians left who would advocate old fashioned chimping out. Gone are the likes of Coleman Young, Sharpe James, and Maynard Jackson. Almost every inner city pol now is in the pocket of developers and finance.
In short, homie ain't got a leg to stand on.Replies: @Anonymous, @MBlanc46
A lot of black neighborhoods in Chicago have more rubble-strewn vacant lots than dwellings. And a lot of the dwellings are vacant and deteriorating. The critical mass for rioting no longer exists.
The Atlantic Magazine published an article which seemed to display an aching longing for Blacks to run amok in a riot. This article has the forlorn loneliness of an Edward Hopper painting. This writer paid by Lorene Powell Jobs really wants the Blacks to let their hair down in a good old-fashioned murderous riot.
This Lorene Powell Jobs woman is an evil baby boomer billionaire who sponsors writers who long for
the Black Lives Matter mob to really cut loose. This Lorene Powell Jobs woman also pushes open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal alien invaders.
This Lorene Powell Jobs woman profits from the cheap labor misery of Chines girls in factories that produce her Apple products.
Lorene Powell Jobs profits from poor Chinese country girls drawn into the satanic mills of Apple corporation misery. Lorene Powell Jobs lives a life of obscene plutocratic gluttony and wealth while poor country girls in China are flinging themselves off the roofs of Apple manufacturing plants because the working conditions are so horrendous and bleak.
Does Lorene Powell Jobs know that the Apple manufacturing plants in China have to put netting around the buildings so as to catch the poor Chinese country girls who jump off the roofs in a desperate bid to escape the misery of the Apple manufacturing plants?
Lorene Powell Jobs also owns a good chunk of Disney stock. The Disney corporation is notorious for pushing open borders mass immigration and amnesty for illegal aliens.Replies: @MBlanc46
Atlantic articles and Hopper paintings. It takes a special kind of mind two associate those.