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One of the more noticeable aspects of the media’s hyping of 2020’s Racial Reckoning is the need to not mention Asians. For example, you know and I know that high schools for the gifted like Manhattan’s Stuyvesant and the D.C. suburbs’ Thomas Jefferson are dominated by Asians. But that doesn’t fit the Narrative so it is seldom mentioned. Business journalists, however, have a harder time ignoring the Asian in the Living Room. Thus, from the New York Times’ business news section:

Black Products. Black Shoppers. Black Workers. But Who Owns the Store?

At a Chicago beauty supply shop, one American dream has come true. Another is still waiting for its chance.

Crystal Holmes and Yong Sup Na. Credit…Danielle Scruggs for The New York Times

Michael Corkery
By Michael Corkery
Oct. 15, 2020, 5:00 a.m. ET

The crowd was growing impatient as Crystal Holmes fumbled with the keys to the store.

Dozens of people were swarming the street around Western Beauty Supply, the Chicago shop where Ms. Holmes works. She had persuaded some of them to let her open the store so they could rob it without breaking the windows.

“She’s taking too long,” someone yelled. “Let’s go in and get it.”

Western Beauty Supply sells products like wigs, hair extensions and combs mostly to Black women. Most of the employees, like Ms. Holmes, are also Black, but the owner is a Korean-American man, Yong Sup Na.

When a few young men appeared outside the store earlier that evening in May, Mr. Na went out to speak with them. He offered some of them cash, and they walked away. At that point, Mr. Na told Ms. Holmes that he felt confident his business was safe. “They are not going to break into the store,” he told her.

A few minutes later, though, a larger group showed up. A woman snatched Mr. Na’s keys, but Ms. Holmes persuaded her to give them back. Then she ordered Mr. Na, her boss, to leave. “You don’t know what could happen,” she told him.

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Even as Ms. Holmes tried to save the store from ruin that evening, when protests and looting followed the police killing of George Floyd, she understood what was causing the turmoil roiling Chicago and dozens of other cities.

“I understand where the rage is coming from,” Ms. Holmes, 40, said in an interview. “We don’t have any businesses in the community and we are getting killed by the police and killing each other, and we are just getting tired.”

In the years she has spent working for Mr. Na, customers have constantly told her that she should open her own store. But she has watched some Black women struggle as owners in the industry, and her priority has been keeping a steady job to support her family.

Outside the store, people in the crowd kept pushing for Ms. Holmes to let them in. But she couldn’t get the keys into the lock. Her hands were shaking too much.

‘The same small slice of pie ’
Mr. Na, who is 65, grew up in South Korea in a home with an outhouse. He watched television by standing outside a neighbor’s window and peering in at the set. Mr. Na was in his late 20s when he arrived in the United States. He knew only one person, a friend from his village who had moved to Chicago.

I saw the same phenomenon in Chicago’s extremely diverse Uptown neighborhood almost three decades ago. Our drycleaners were run by a pleasant Korean family. They mentioned that their in-laws had just opened a hair care products next door. My wife and I promised to go buy something to help their in-laws get off to a good start.

But when we looked in the beautifully set-up new shop, we discovered there wasn’t a single hair care product in the store for naturally straight hair. The owners and employees didn’t speak English, but clearly Korean wholesalers were publishing three ring binders of how to run a black hair care products that anybody off the 747 from Seoul could follow perfectly.

That led me to some of my earlier Doubt about whether immigration was as beneficial for Americans as we had been told. Retailing black hair care products had traditionally been a fairly easy first rung on the ladder to prosperity for African-Americans, going back to the first black millionaire, Madame CJ Walker, inventor of the conk. But now workaholics were coming from 10,000 miles across the Pacific to crush our black fellow citizen retailers. Sure, black customers would get cheaper prices and longer store hours from Korean retailers, but how big would the price of foreclosing black entrepreneurship be?

 
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  1. gent says:

    This post has no title, Meeeeeester Sailer.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  2. IHTG says:

    Post has no title.

  3. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    Displacement level immigration.

    • Replies: @Aardvark
  4. Steve
    You have a few duplicate paragraphs in the post

  5. It is a lamentable shame that tribal loyalty in the US consumer market stops hard, right at the dollar sign. If a product or service is in a relatively open, competitive (rather than regulated mono-or-oligopoly) the lowest price will prevail every single time. If it is cheaper, it will sell to all who pay their own money for it. Labor included, witness the plethora of illegals in the stoop trades. Oh, people will complain about what a shame it is that the old hardware store, or the local baker, or the diner, or that little welding shop and the union hall closed up, but what are you going to do? A dollar is a dollar, right?

    I stil lke Stevesnidea about giving the negroes hands-off franchise to retail weed. I do wonder if a bunch of Nigerian immigrants might come quickly to dominate the market, leaving the decendents-of-slaves crowd with another nothingburger.

  6. bomag says:

    …how big would the price of foreclosing black entrepreneurship be?

    Tally up a large chunk of local, state, and federal budgets that go to filling EBT cards for Blacks.

    Add in part of crime costs from those who might otherwise have been restrained with more of a stake in society.

    We should have picked our own cotton; we should have kept our own factories; we should have run our own retail establishments.

  7. In the years she has spent working for Mr. Na, customers have constantly told her that she should open her own store.

    So they could rob her when the time came?

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  8. Altai says:

    White middle class baby boomers talk about ‘hard-working’ Asians now. It doesn’t matter how you’re displaced or how you lose societal power, what matters is you do. Poor blacks realised that by the 90s. Middle class white people will learn it soon with regards to Asians and Sub-Cons. Their numbers are effectively endless.

    It’s hardly a special ‘pathology’ of African-Americans. It’s pretty normal.

    • Agree: bomag
  9. George says:

    Cultural Appropriation: Can an Azhkenazi Jew play an African queen of Macedonian ancestry?

    Gal Gadot as Cleopatra is a backwards step for Hollywood representation
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment/movies/gal-gadot-as-cleopatra-is-a-backwards-step-for-hollywood-representation/ar-BB1a0KXw

  10. bomag says:
    @Brian Reilly

    It is a lamentable shame that tribal loyalty in the US consumer market stops hard, right at the dollar sign.

    We’re late in learning the difference between price and value.

  11. @Altai

    Oh, you mean much like how in Londonistan (and UK-istan at large) the replacement levels of white Britons has been underway now for several decades. Got it, sport.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
  12. “Retailing black hair care products had traditionally been a fairly easy first rung on the ladder to prosperity for African-Americans, going back to the first black millionaire, Madame CJ Walker, inventor of the conk.”

    • Replies: @jimmyriddle
    , @AceDeuce
  13. El Dato says:

    A few minutes later, though, a larger group showed up. A woman snatched Mr. Na’s keys, but Ms. Holmes persuaded her to give them back. Then she ordered Mr. Na, her boss, to leave. “You don’t know what could happen,” she told him.

    Eventually Roof Asians might happen and Black Bodies might be found in trash containers as lower-cost inter-ethnic warning to stop behaving badly.

    But life goes on.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @AndrewR
  14. The Koreans and Asians who dominate the hair care industry sell primarily to black women. Their shops are in the inner city. Black women and inner city. Think about that. The other inner city business that is getting some competition is the funeral business. I remember an article in the Buffalo News about black funeral directors complaining that White funeral parlors were siphoning off business because they charged less. Provide a service, charge less, shameless.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  15. @Brian Reilly

    The recreational marijuana industry will be owned by people who don’t use the product they sell. There may be employees who are users, and maybe even have a small stake in the company; but the company will be controlled by abstainers.

    • Disagree: RadicalCenter
    • Replies: @Anon125
  16. CPK says:

    When I worked off Capitol Hill many years ago, we used to grab lunch at a greasy-spoon a couple of blocks into the bad neighborhood. Everyone called it “The Bulletproof”. To this day I don’t know its real name. The Korean owners worked behind a wall of thick ballistic glass and all the money and food was passed through a rotating drum. And we all just accepted this as a matter of course.

    Good times…

    • Replies: @bomag
    , @RadicalCenter
  17. @Altai

    Altai, years ago Italians did business with Italian businessmen, the baker, the grocer, the tailer, insurance man, accountant,funeral director, dentist, etc. Replace Italian with Irish, Polish, German, Greek, Jewish in the first sentence and that’s how it was. Black neighborhoods in my youth had all that. They lost all that way before the Koreans arrived. They weren’t loyal to their own. Wonder why?

    • Replies: @Mark G.
    , @znon
  18. One more thing. When my wife and I volunteered at an inner city soup kitchen, we’re on hiatus now, we would drive along Buffalo’s Bailey Avenue, my childhood neighborhood. We passed at least six “wig” shops in a couple of miles. Black hair care is big business I guess. Maybe time for a franchise model.

  19. eD says:

    In East African countries, didn’t Asians dominating small business become an issue?

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
  20. Anonymous[315] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    I am old enough to remember a pre-1970 world where local businesses were owned and managed by blacks who hired black employees to serve black customers. Everything from movie theaters to doctor’s offices to barber shops were run like this. Now look at us.

  21. El Dato says:

    OT for later:

    “Sexual Preference” has now been banned as per the Newspeak Dictionary Update of this morning.

    You cannot have “Sexual Preference”, because modern-day Wokeism axiomatically stipulates that your Sexual Orientation is set by nature, not nurture or your personal agency. Evidently, it is the only element of the human that is thus hardwired, because otherwise you can be Anything, even a blue-hair deer inhabiting a Black with white skin. But the pansexual part comes from your parents.

    Thus written in the Age of Floyd, Annum 1, October 14.

    The woke mob strikes again, with the phrase ‘sexual preference’ banned overnight. Or was it really so sudden?

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  22. Anonymous[866] • Disclaimer says:

    But the business section won’t run stories about how blacks do music and sports but Jews own the industries.

    Or how majority of Americans are white gentiles but Jews control most news media.

    There are many black communities with hardly any Asian presence. But the economies are slumped just the same. When the movie Selma was to be shown in the famed city, there were no movie theaters. Blacks on their own couldn’t open and run a single one.

  23. Well maybe the Asians think that since they are physically providing the hair for the weaves, why not operate the whole industry? Also most women love the pampering that the beauty salon provides. Wouldn’t it make sense if the warm, fuzzy feelings one gets in being cared for might just be heightened if another race were doing the coddling? There is a superiority aspect in all that . Its how the AWFLS operate. Why not black women?

  24. Eliminating the various barriers to entry (zoning laws, licenses, ect.) would be a good start. Then the minimum wage, so the blacks could undercut the asians on labor. Really any of the various ways that the cancer of state privilege could be exised would be to the advantage of normal people rather than soulless strivers. How high a hurdle does the totality of state interference create for these blacks? $10,000? $20,000? And if we are to expand this point, what other open fields of activity in our society have been slowly turned into bottlenecks or outright chokepoints after years of state metastasis? And to whose benefit? Could the answer to these problems be the same? But of course this is a Sailer post, so the solution is… immigration controls.

    • Replies: @notsaying
  25. Anonymous[341] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s amazing that in spite of all the murder, mayhem and destruction comitted by blacks-to the point where it is obvious they are not compatable with the modern world, so-called conservatives spend so much time worrying about their well-being…

    I question the moral compass of people like this.

  26. @eD

    “In East African countries, didn’t Asians dominating small business become an issue?”

    Just a teensy little one. In South Africa too.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expulsion_of_Asians_from_Uganda

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Durban_riots

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indians_in_Kenya#Independence

    Happens in other places where there are market-dominant minorities

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_1998_riots_of_Indonesia

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indonesian_mass_killings_of_1965%E2%80%9366

  27. In East African countries, didn’t Asians dominating small business become an issue?

    Yes, this was one of His Excellency, al-Hajji, Field Marshal etc. etc. Idi Amin’s signature issues, which culminated in the expulsion of Uganda’s Asian population in the 1970s. Those were mostly Indian Gujaratis of course.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  28. That led me to some of my earlier Doubt about whether immigration was as beneficial for Americans as we had been told. Retailing black hair care products had traditionally been a fairly easy first rung on the ladder to prosperity for African-Americans, going back to the first black millionaire, Madame CJ Walker, inventor of the conk. But now workaholics were coming from 10,000 miles across the Pacific to crush our black fellow citizen retailers. Sure, black customers would get cheaper prices and longer store hours from Korean retailers, but how big would the price of foreclosing black entrepreneurship be?

    Bingo.

    Middle man minorities do not add value, they subtract it–from you. Not “you” as an individual–you may (at least at first) get a better deal. But “you” as nation as a biological entity with children and grandchildren who want to be prosperous, want an intact culture and need to have skills and opportunities to do so.

    It’s notable that nations like France and England which expelled their Jews went on to greatness and leadership of European civilization. While the ones in the East that took them flourished briefly, then fell behind. Obviously, many factors involved, but one is that the English and French native people’s did their own commercial activity and built themselves–culturally and genetically doing that. While in the East you had just nobles and peasants and ever growing class of Jewish intermediaries and rent-seekers. (Jewish population actually exploded so dramatically there weren’t even enough middle manning opportunities for them … much less for the natives to develop their skills.)

    You see something similar in South East Asia. All the economic activity revolves around overseas Chinese. The natives never developed the commercial skills sets because there were always Chinese around who could beat them. The natives cultural and genetic development was impeded.

    ~~

    Blacks were never going to build jet engines or take us to the moon–despite Hollyweird’s claims.

    But which white people developing technology and providing both rule-of-law, material infrastructure and a prosperous economy blacks could live well in their communities here with their own doctors, lawyers, teachers, preachers, shopkeepers, barbers, tradesmen … and some working for “the man” to pay for the white man’s stuff flowing into their community.

    Now we have “integration” and “immigration” and public transfer payments, government employment pay for a huge chunk of the net inflow of white people’s goods and many of their “communities” are dystopian hell holes.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Whiskey
    , @Anonymous
  29. I was hoping for a happy ending, but no…

    In the end, the group didn’t wait for Ms. Holmes to let it in. The looters smashed the window and barged inside.

    Mr. Na walked across the street, sat in his car and looked on as his store was ransacked.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    , @anon
  30. I suspect that Mr. Na’s hiring this woman was, from the start, an attempt to appease the “community”. Left to his own druthers, he would have hired a relative (if available), or another Korean.

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
    • Replies: @RadicalCenter
  31. Not Raul says:

    If AAs want reparations, and want the small businesses in their neighborhoods to be AA-owned, perhaps this is an idea that could be beneficial to AAs and Asians:

    A fund could be set up to buy out wig shops in AA neighborhoods. Asians could use that money to move out of AA neighborhoods, perhaps with a relocation subsidy. AAs could buy the shops under a rent-to-own model with subsidized terms and/or tax breaks.

  32. @kaganovitch

    Yes, this was one of His Excellency, al-Hajji, Field Marshal etc. etc. Idi Amin’s signature issues, which culminated in the expulsion of Uganda’s Asian population in the 1970s.

    Old Idi had his issues, but long term, this was the right thing to do for Ugandans.

    The “Asians”–i.e. various Indian merchants groups–weren’t going to be so silly as to interbreed with the Africans. They were going to be a separate tribe–like the Jews in Europe. Destined for separate contentious tribes off into eternity. Ideally you could come up with some sort of program to let Asians continue as long as they were mentoring Africans. But realistically that sort of thing isn’t going to work.

    The problem is that
    1) Africans’ innate capabilities start at such a low base and
    2) White people’s technology and medicine keep the normal eugenic process from working. Ideally the African shopkeeper or tradesman or factory owner who is smart enough to replace the Asian and does well has his genes propagate through the population. But now he might have four kids who survive to adulthood … but the typical, less smart, peasant might have six!

    In Europe the smart, conscientious farmers and millers and blacksmiths who ran their farmers and businesses well peopled their nations and progressively got their nation culturally and genetically ready to launch industrialism.

    In Africa now, the smart/successful African can’t outbreed the dumb one … and the total population ramps up much, much faster than selection could work even if they could. Disaster!

  33. @International Jew

    Mr. Na walked across the street, sat in his car and looked on as his store was ransacked.

    Diversity giveth … diversity taketh away.

    • Agree: GoRedWings!
    • Replies: @Calvin Hobbes
  34. Jack D says:
    @AnotherDad

    I think you have the arrow of causation backward. England and France prospered after expelling their Jews because they really didn’t need them in the 1st place. After Spain expelled its Jews its economy stagnated because they didn’t have “the necessities” to develop their own economy. Uganda did not prosper after expelling the E. Asians, who all moved to the UK and took their Magic Dirt with them. If Ukraine had expelled its Jews earlier, they would not have had an Industrial Revolution like England, they would have stagnated even more.

    I visited my mother’s shtetl in Ukraine. Now that all the Jews are gone, there’s less commercial activity there now than there was 100 years ago. Some of the Ukrainians had jobs working in the Jewish mills, etc. – now they are back to subsistence farming with horse drawn equipment.

    If Mr. Na decides it’s not worth it anymore and sells out to Ms. Holmes, her shop will be broke and out of business in 6 months. She doesn’t have the necessities to run a business. Working for Mr. Na she at least has a steady paycheck. Getting rid of Mr. Na is not going to help her, it’s going to hurt her.

  35. @Jack D

    I visited my mother’s shtetl in Ukraine. Now that all the Jews are gone, there’s less commercial activity there now than there was 100 years ago. Some of the Ukrainians had jobs working in the Jewish mills, etc. – now they are back to subsistence farming with horse drawn equipment.

    But the Ukraine is still run by Jews

    • Replies: @Jack D
  36. ic1000 says:

    A comment on this paragraph.

    In the years [Crystal Holmes] has spent working for Mr. Na, customers have constantly told her that she should open her own store. But she has watched some Black women struggle as owners in the industry, and her priority has been keeping a steady job to support her family.

    There are three big issues with launching your own startup, whether it’s designing/building electric cars or retailing hair weaves in the neighborhood.

    1. It’s very hard work.
    2. For the first few years, you won’t be able to pay yourself much (if anything).
    3. The outcome is uncertain. Things go well, second homes and Viking river cruises. Things go poorly, it’s Chapter 7.

    Michael Corkery’s career looks fine: Brown University BA in 1997, a reporter at a small-city paper (2000-05), then the WSJ (2005-14), now the NYT (2014-20). But Corkery seems to have no first-hand experience with entrepreneurship. Does he understand that it’s not for everyone? Especially given #3, it’s a poor choice for most people.

    Get me rewrite.

    But she has watched some Black women Holmes has vague but accurate forebodings about how owners struggle as owners in the industry, and she realistically has her priority as has been keeping a steady job to support her family.

    This is similar to points raised in the comments last year by Jack D, about the ill-fated push to increase the levels of minority home ownership. Renting from a decent landlord is a better choice for many people.

    • Agree: Jack D, Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Buffalo Joe
  37. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    The black customer base for black hair care products could have kept the black owned shops in business by patronizing them. But they didn’t. They went where the selection was larger and prices affordable and that was the Asian stores. In this case why focus on just the Asians and not the black buyers?

    He offered some of them cash, and they walked away. At that point, Mr. Na told Ms. Holmes that he felt confident his business was safe. “They are not going to break into the store,” he told her.A few minutes later, though, a larger group showed up.

    Big mistake. Word got out that something free was being given out and so now a mob arrives looking for the same. Mr Na was probably materially poorer growing up than these welfare-coddled black whining looters.

    and we are just getting tired.”

    But never too tired to come out and loot and steal. Always up for that 24/7.

    • Agree: HammerJack
  38. bomag says:
    @CPK

    Looks like that is the expanding ecosystem of today.

  39. @Anonymous

    ThreeOneFive, so am I. See my reply to Altai at #18.

  40. Anonymous[123] • Disclaimer says:

    Yong Sap Na is definitely No Young Sap.

  41. Neoconned says:

    Mister Na will probably reopen in a nicer neighborhood if he can secure an insurance pay out…

    At his age if he has enough of a nest egg though he may just retire….why go back to that risk?

  42. Anonymous[123] • Disclaimer says:

    Basically, we are back to the ancient battle of Tories ( or Beckies, or Karens) fighting Whiggery
    …….

  43. Liza says:

    It shouldn’t be about who owns the ethnic hair care stores. We should be concerned about the basics. The loss of stupid luxuries like hair care stores and nail shops (from looting or corona-19 closures) shouldn’t be some kind of tragedy.

    If people prepared their meals at home, there would not be thousands of restaurants and their employees without an income, brought on by this phony Corona Calamity. Is there anyone here old enough to remember what it’s like to not eat in restaurants regularly, or takeout “food”? Why are so many women wearing hair extensions and fake fingernails? What did women do before that? Or is the present generation so decrepit that they can’t grow a full healthy head of hair and grow nails that don’t constantly break. The devil’s in the details.

    So we ought to think about what’s really essential instead of micromanaging the nonessential. Mind you, it seems to be too late; nefarious parties are taking care of all that, but for the wrong reasons. We’ve had years of opportunity to look around, see what matters and act accordingly.

    • Agree: Cortes
  44. 3g4me says:
    @Jack D

    Whatever the issue, whatever the post, whatever the comment, Jack D’s response: tl;dr IT’S ALL ABOUT MEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!

    • Agree: GoRedWings!
    • Disagree: Jim Don Bob
    • Troll: bomag
    • Replies: @keypusher
  45. The same problem exists in South Africa. Blacks used to open spaza shops, which were essentially little supermarkets or convenience stores in the townships. It was a first step into the world of business and to prosperity (being a minibus taxi warlord was the other way).

    After apartheid, Bangladeshis Pakistanis and Somalis (all collectively known as “Pakistanis” for some reason by the natives) moved in. Working in buying syndicates, flouting labour regs, they outcompete the Bantus.

  46. We don’t have any businesses in the community and we are getting killed by the police and killing each other, and we are just getting tired.

    Killing people is very tiring. On an annual basis, the police kill ~1% of all black homicide victims, while blacks kill ~97% of all black homicide victims. No wonder they’re getting tired–they’re doing nearly all the work!

    • LOL: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @J.Ross
  47. Aardvark says:
    @Anonymous

    And oddly enough, the displaced groups still support the party that champions open borders the most.
    Recucklicans have had their share of involvement in displacement immigration policies.

  48. Jack D says:
    @ic1000

    I don’t even remember making those comments, but I will give you an example. My son recently purchased a home in a gentrifying suburban neighborhood from the heirs of a black man. He had been pretty middle class but his kids had drug problems and were downwardly mobile. As he aged, the guy let the house pretty much slip into ruin so that by the time my son bought it, it was underwater on its mortgage even though the neighborhood was up and coming. If he had been renting, no landlord would have let the roof leak to the point of collapse. With a little maintenance there would have been substantial equity in the home, but as it was the heirs got nothing (just as well – they would have spent it on drugs, maybe even ODed). My son has renovated the home and should earn a significant profit when it goes on the market. The heirs could have done this and earned the profit for themselves but they lacked the necessities.

    Also see my comment above. Running a business is even more complex than owning a home.

    • Agree: Daniel Chieh
  49. Neuday says:
    @Anonymous

    The same people who pushed the Hart-Cellar Immigration Act also pushed the Civil Rights laws that made Freedom of Association illegal. Some called it “Integration”, Back when Blacks had their own businesses they served their community, and Whites served theirs. Now that we’re all cozily integrated, and inflation-adjusted wages have been flat since nearly 50 years, we all buy based solely on who charges the least shekels and both the White and Black communities are in death spirals. What a cohencidence. At least the Korean shopowners and Mexican mow, blow and go guys are happy, not to mention the multinationals and their stockowners.

  50. That led me to some of my earlier Doubt about whether immigration was as beneficial for Americans as we had been told

    Koreans running black hair product retail stores absolutely benefit the black customers that choose to shop at those stores and provides market competition that potentially hurts rival retail stores that could be owned by Americans. Let the market decide. Let customers vote with their wallets. Let retail stores compete to serve their customers with the best products, prices, service, and convenience. And let all customers benefit from the increased selection of competitive products, prices, and service offerings. I judge this argument in favor of open borders.

    The better argument to consider is US higher education. Today’s universities treat student applicants equally regardless of whether they are citizens or foreigners. That makes sense in a free market context. However, US universities operate on enormous levels of funding and political authority taken from US citizens through US government. Many Americans are denied access to the benefits of universities but have to bear the costs, while many foreigners are granted access to the benefits but have no obligation to bear the costs. This isn’t at all reasonable. The free market types who support open borders, somewhat agree with my point here, but downplay this and steer attention away.

  51. @Anonymous

    Way wait. Blacks don’t even own and run their own barber shops anymore? Seriously?

    To get their J Curls, Fades, and Trims, they let Kim Young and Park Ho do the job?

    Really?

    Cause in the three Barbershop films with Ice Cube, the shop’s employees were all “by us, for us” and not an egg roll or kimchee in the place.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    , @Paul Jolliffe
  52. prosa123 says:

    Much of the human hair sold for extensions and wigs comes from inmates in Chinese concentration camps.

    • Replies: @epebble
    , @Jim Dandy
    , @Anon
  53. Muggles says:

    Travel writer Paul Theroux, who himself was born in Africa, has written a number of books about traveling and visiting in Africa, among other places.

    In one of his last books on Africa he tried to go overland from S. Africa to the western nations like Ghana. Didn’t make it.

    One of his telling observations is how the black Africans simply let the east Indians dominate small retail business. At one point he describes some local blacks mocking the Indian storekeepers who just”count and count” their inventory. And the locally made soap is just sold in chunks, by weight.

    These are eye opening observations by someone generally non racist but widely experienced with world cultures. He travels simply by bus and rail. (Never could get up the westerns side of Africa that way, too dangerous.)

    One problem overall seems to be that if none of your family members is employed in retail or has run a successful business, most blacks simply lack experience at what the work is like. The end of mainly black communities with de facto segregation destroyed that model. Welfare also of course took away most of the providing fathers in the underclass as well.

    To some, stores are just places to “get” stuff. They take in money so they must be “rich.” Plenty of blacks do succeed, but few want to stay in the old ‘hood to do so. Too dangerous. Plus too many friends/relatives who want to mooch (a big problem in tribal centered Africa too.)

    Sad really. The “it takes a village” mentality really is quite destructive. While there are social benefits it can destroy individual initiative and sink to the lowest level. When that happens outsiders come in, with no mooching family/friends locally, and clean up. Immigrants in particular will trade off safety for money, and work hard.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @utu
    , @Anonymous
  54. J.Ross says:

    He offered some of them cash, and they walked away. At that point, Mr. Na told Ms. Holmes that he felt confident his business was safe. “They are not going to break into the store,” he told her.

    Similar attempts were made in Malay anti-Chinese race riots, with similar results. Asians seem to have a kind of faith in money and an inability to understand foreign non-monetary motivations. Hopefully at least the burned learn.

  55. anon[202] • Disclaimer says:
    @International Jew

    The happy ending is, he has insurance (hopefully).

  56. Mark G. says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    John McWhorter in his book “Winning the Race” has a case study involving the town I grew up in, Indianapolis. Indianapolis had a black business and entertainment district along Indiana Avenue. Madam CJ Walker, who Steve mentioned above, built her business empire here and the Walker theater along Indiana Avenue was financed by her. Many of the jazz greats like Louis Armstrong played there. Even as late as the fifties Indiana Avenue had lots of black owned businesses and nightclubs. The great Wes Montgomery and many other talented jazz artists played in the clubs.

    Then, starting in the sixties, there was a rapid decline. Three things came along: the end of segregation, increases in crime, and welfare.

    There were only a certain number of blacks capable of running a business. With segregation, this was often their best option. Once segregation ended these same blacks had more access to government jobs and private sector jobs in white owned businesses and many of them moved over to that.

    During this time crime was increasing due to new liberal theories about crime control being put in effect. McWhorter discusses complaints among the more middle class blacks in that era about lower class blacks engaging in more crimes along Indiana Avenue starting in the sixties. During segregation, middle class blacks had to work, live, and shop in that area but with the end of segregation middle class blacks didn’t have to put up with misbehaving lower class blacks. They moved and then were no longer in the area to run the black owned businesses or to shop in them. Once gone, lower class black behavior got even worse since the middle class blacks had somewhat restrained their behavior and acted as role models for them.

    What finally finished the destruction of the black community was welfare. Stephen Goldsmith, in his book “The Twenty-First Century City” said he worked in the Indianapolis government welfare system in the seventies when large numbers of blacks quit working or looking for husbands to support them if they were female. Goldsmith said this was actually rational behavior on their part because welfare paid more than a job. The black underclass increased in size, their behavior continued to get worse and the remaining black owned businesses on Indiana Avenue continued to close until only a few were left.

  57. J.Ross says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    I’ve fallen asleep in the middle of movies, rarely in the middle of meals, and long ago while driving (dumb high school kid not scheduling work properly), but I can’t even imagine how much productivity these queens are cranking out that they’re so tired they have to rob a store.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  58. @Altai

    Agreed. But at least you won’t get mugged or sucker punched. So there’s that.

  59. AndrewR says:

    Seoul to Chicago isn’t even 2/3 that distance. For someone who spergs out about obscure baseball minutiae from the nineteenth century, you are awfully sloppy when it comes to a lot of things you could look up in 30 seconds

  60. Whiskey says: • Website
    @AnotherDad

    You have the arrow of causality wrong. England did and could expel Jews as it had high literacy. Including lay literacy. France would expel Jews, default on loans, take over banking the invite them back in again as they lacked literate lay people.

    Italy never expelled Jews as lay literacy was never lost. Florence and Venice never lacked for wealth.

    Foreign middlemen are almost always a sign of lack g literacy or capital or some other glaring weakness the host society wants to avoid fixing

  61. Liberal college educated whites (mostly men, but increasingly women as well) are quite happy to marry Asian women (so are some Unz columnists for that matter), and produce mixed race children. To the extent their mixed race children can game the system by being “not white”, all the better. Also to the extent that alliance with Asian immigrants helps Jews and Episcopalians manage competition from other white people, also a benefit. So it is not really surprising that media likes to play this sort of stuff down.

    Steve is still stuck in the white vs. black paradigm, which is where the media wants us to stay, when we have really already moved into a more sophisticated high IQ vs. everyone else paradigm. And funnily enough a lot of whites are going to end up in the “everyone else” bucket.

  62. Anonymous[285] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, black community monitors are learning NYC Jews some lessons in manners, just like the German’s back in the before times:

    • Replies: @Trinity
  63. AndrewR says:
    @George

    tl;dr:

    “White people bad. Jews white”

  64. Alfa158 says:
    @Brian Reilly

    That suggests that the characteristic of entrepreneurship is heritable. After all, the West Africans who are coming here and running business are descendants of the enterprising people who enslaved fellow Africans and sold some of them to European slave transporters, while African-Americans are the descendants of the non-enterprising people who got sold.

  65. @Jack D

    Even Germany and Austria-Hungary were actually better off economically when they had local Jews. Today the German and Central European economies are still run largely for the benefit of Jews, but mostly Jews who live in America, the UK and Israel. Prior to 1933 there was still a significant number of influential Jews who sided with German culture over Anglo-Saxon. Killing/driving them out didn’t end up making things better.

    • Replies: @utu
  66. AndrewR says:
    @El Dato

    This is so stupid. “Preference” in no way implies that it can be changed or that it’s bad (although people certainly do have control over whom or what they have sex with). I prefer the music of Bach to Cardi B. I couldn’t change this if I wanted to.

  67. @AnotherDad

    The “Asians”–i.e. various Indian merchants groups–weren’t going to be so silly as to interbreed with the Africans.

    A handful do, particularly those who stick around after their compatriots have moved on. They marry their new compatriots.

    Kamala’s parent’s met in Berkeley, but it could have been Kingston or Port of Spain or Georgetown. (Though Jamaica’s Asians are more Chinese, aren’t they?)

    Kamala Harris’s father is slamming her for making a ‘travesty’ of her Jamaican heritage

    (He decries Jamaican stereotypes. But he didn’t fit them, and he left. Doesn’t that just reinforce them, in the mind and in the field?

    (“My dear departed grandmothers, as well as my deceased parents, must be turning in their grave right now to see their family’s name, reputation and proud Jamaican identity being connected, in any way, jokingly or not with the fraudulent stereotype of a pot-smoking joy seeker and in the pursuit of identity politics. Speaking for myself and my immediate Jamaican family, we wish to categorically dissociate ourselves from this travesty.”)

    I worked with a Guyanan who was an Indian-black mix. His immature cousin was all-Indian but acted very black, except in matters sexual.

    There was a Dutch movie about Suriname a few years ago, The Price of Sugar. It starred one Yootha Wong-Loi-Sing. She plays a mulatto girl.

    https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2691498/plotsummary?ref_=tt_ov_pl

    The Wong Loi Sings are “a family of artists”:

    http://sunrainor.blogspot.com/2009/06/michael-wong-loi-sing-exhibition.html?m=1

  68. peterike says:
    @Jack D

    I visited my mother’s shtetl in Ukraine. Now that all the Jews are gone, there’s less commercial activity there now than there was 100 years ago.

    And yet, oddly, nearly everything in the Ukraine worth owning is somehow still owned by Jews, even though they are 0.2% of the population.

    So you see all the Jews aren’t actually gone from the Ukraine, they are busily sucking every last ounce of blood out of it.

  69. anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    That led me to some of my earlier Doubt about whether immigration was as beneficial for Americans as we had been told.

    Another example I can think of of an immigrant niche is Cambodian families running donut shops in California. But that just takes a bit of market share from Dunkin’ Donuts so no harm.

  70. ic1000 says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    >Steve is still stuck in the white vs. black paradigm

    LOL

  71. anonymous[149] • Disclaimer says:

    Guess where world leading hair products maker Rebecca Fashion is based?

    https://www.rebeccafashion.com/

  72. @Brian Reilly

    I am pretty sure this is the book

    Jesse Jackson: America’s David by Barbara Reynolds

    I don’t remember about the subtitle “America’s David.” Maybe she was thinking of the young David who “took out” Goliath with a shepherd’s sling? The older David who had a “bimbo eruption” in hindsight proves ironic?

    Reynolds was taking a critical look at Jackson as a race hustler, for which she took flak for not exhibiting group loyalty. But Ms. Reynolds tries to give the context for Mr. Jackson’s success at hustling.

    Specifically, she chronicles the failure of “separate development” with the lack of success of a minority owned dairy selling Joe Louis-brand milk. Their minority customers were not interested in racial pride, they bought Dean’s Milk over which they perceived to be an inferior product by its Black-centric branding.

    She quotes a business owner in exasperation, “Do people think it comes from a Negro cow?” I still love that line. We are of different human races, but we breathe the same air, walk on the same Earth, and drink milk from the same kind of cow. Her rationalization for what Mr. Jackson is famous for, namely, “shaking down” big businesses to employ minorities. If anyone forgot that this is what Jesse Jackson is about, go back and view the You Tube of him as a guest host on SNL and the gag about the staffing of the control room. SNL may be left-leaning, but they are not above satirizing what needs to be satirized when they see it.

    The path to success through minority owned businesses serving minority-race customers was going nowhere. The Reverend Jackson was going to get minority workers placement with Big Business.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
  73. Jack D says:
    @Muggles

    The natural path for learning how to run a business is working in one. Afghans send for their cousins to work in their fried chicken shops in the ghetto and then after a couple of years the cousin opens another shop in a different ghetto after having learned the ropes. There was a Greek spice shop on 9th Ave in NY that I used to go to many years ago. A couple of years ago I was visiting NY and lo and behold it was still there and nothing had physically changed (it’s a real time capsule) but the owners were now Hispanic. I didn’t ask but I’d be willing to bet that the Hispanic store clerk bought the shop when his old boss retired. Holmes has had ample opportunity to learn the business but she doesn’t have the brains.

  74. Anonymous[362] • Disclaimer says:

    T Roosevelt and others were absolutely correct about limiting the immigration of Asiatic aliens. Model minority? It’s only a model for displacement of whites and anyone else in their target niches.

    The correct phrase is Market Dominant Minority. Any elite who imports a market dominant minority into a first world country is either a bought and paid for quisling or an ideological globalist practicing divide & conquer strategy.

    There are obvious connections between mass immigration and social unrest. Almost all post WW2 pre 1965 Hart Cellar Immigration Act civil unrest in American society used to be caused by angry blacks alone. Now it’s caused by a rainbow coalition of blacks and angry children of immigrants (plus antifa white misfits).

    Mostly before WW2 and the 1924 Immigration shut off it was angry European immigrants and children of immigrants instigating unrest. Italians Irish Jews literally rioting revolting shooting bombing in the early 20th century. Look up the facts.

    The truth is that market dominant immigrants or non market dominant immigrants both will destabilize any society if brought in in large enough numbers.

    For a worst case scenario of mass immigration into a first world country to the point of disaster look at South Africa.

    Most people don’t know that a huge % of the various non-whites were brought in as so-called cheap labor. Cheap? The worker immigrants only cost the settlers and founders eventually EVERYTHING.

  75. @Not Only Wrathful

    That is Rami Malek and he himself is Egyptian.

    • Replies: @Not Only Wrathful
  76. @Peter Akuleyev

    Yes you’re right the big issue is high iq versus low iq. My problem with the high iq crowd is that many of them use black-white rhetoric to gain market share and exploit others. It’s pretty evil.

    The non-white high IQ South and East Asians and whitish (depending on whom you ask) high IQ Jews are pretty good at exploiting this. But it’s actually worse from woke whites like Dorsey and Bezos.

    I fully understand the issues of genetic selection but I’d like to think that ideals of a liberal society and humanitarianism could still be used to protect those who may not be high IQ but are dependable, cooperative, and hard working. Otherwise, eventually, even the high IQ elites won’t matter any more and humanity will die screaming.

    • Agree: Travis
  77. @Jack D

    Funny thing in New York. The ubiquitous Greek Owned diners are largely staffed by Hispanics now. But those Hispanics have adopted a lot of the language and mannerisms of their Greek bosses.

    • Replies: @RAZ
  78. @Brian Reilly

    “I do wonder if a bunch of Nigerian immigrants might come quickly to dominate the market, leaving the decendents-of-slaves crowd with another nothingburger.”

    Vice in the Netherlands has been taken over by foreigners. Albanian gangs are but one of many foreign outfits running drugs and pimping. Whiteness is being driven out at the street level.

    Lebanese are the world champs at international drug smuggling, using their global connections to small business owners to facilitate a world-wide racket in drug sales and money laundering.

    The Chinese are into property and land lording.

    Open borders invites ruthless specialists.

  79. znon says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Neither were whites. Thats why we now are spelled with lower case.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Buffalo Joe
  80. @bomag

    We should have picked our own cotton; we should have kept our own factories; we should have run our own retail establishments.

    Those decisions were not made by the “We” that you and I and the vast majority of Westerners belong to; they were made by a much smaller “We” who don’t give a f*** about the rest of us.

  81. notsaying says:
    @Blue Collar Mike

    I don’t think the answer to black people’s economic woes can be to get rid of minimum wage so black business owners could undercut Asians on labor costs. First of all the Asians could drop wages too. Federal minimum wage is still only $7.25 which is way too low as it is. How can anyone advocate for people being paid less?

    Americans should not be expected to work for slave wages. The race to the bottom doesn’t benefit workers. It benefits business owners. You might say that’s the point but I don’t think American workers should be sacrificial lambs any more than they are today. That is already too much.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  82. And before the koreans owned all of the stores in the ‘hood — it was the jews … for probably a century.

    The same with other elements of ‘black culture’ — their music … their athletes’ managers … 

    They just sold out to the koreans at the top of the economy … and before the blacks finally started — in just the smallest ways — to discover who’s been $crewing them for hundreds of years.

    • Agree: Trinity
  83. @Jack D

    Holmes has had ample opportunity to learn the business but she doesn’t have the brains.

    Not necessarily the brains. There’s a lot that goes on that requires an owner’s careful attention, but isn’t exactly rocket science. A conscientious employee vacuums the details up in case the boss is out of pocket, and someone has to fill in. The average black employee’s attitude can be summed up as “is it 5 o’clock, yet”, not “is there something about the operation of this business I haven’t figured out, yet, just in case I get laid off, and decide to go into business for myself”?

    • Agree: Gary in Gramercy
  84. Does it matter if it’s an Asian or an African in the living room? You don’t want a cow in your china shop, either.

    Asians are much tamable than Africans, though. That’s why Nino and Ruthie preferred them.

    Should Justice Barrett hire both her adopted children as clerks (is that legal?), that would double her predecessess’s record.

  85. utu says:
    @Peter Akuleyev

    ” Killing/driving them out didn’t end up making things better.” – In case of Eastern Europe it is hard to tell because within the first 2-3 years after war economies of Czechoslovakia, Poland, East Germany went fully communist and practically all enterprises were nationalized. But in the first 2-3 years after the war many businesses were resurrected and many new were created and they were run by gentiles who would not have a chance of getting into businesses before WWII as some sectors of economy were totally dominated by Jews being 10% of population in Poland. In Poland 90% of Jews were gone and the remaining were busy emigrating or working for the communist state apparatus so there was no competition for gentiles. Once the economy was nationalized it became inefficient which was particularly visible in food production and retail. So paradoxically in the first 2-3 years after war in some sectors of economy the situation was better than further away from war as the communist economy was getting more entrenched. To the question “When is it going to get better” the answer was “We already had it better. However nobody believed or thought that it got worse because of the shortage of Jews in business but rather because of the surplus of Jews in government w/o whom quick transformation to communism would not be possible.

    “Prior to 1933 there was still a significant number of influential Jews who sided with German culture over Anglo-Saxon. Killing/driving them out didn’t end up making things better.” – If I understand correctly your argument is that of LBJ: “It’s probably better to have him inside the tent pissing out than outside the tent pissing in.” But I am not aware of any Jewish lobbing against the German state in 1950’s and 1960’s or 1970’s when the economy was rebuilt and modernized to the point of becoming the third economy in the world. Germany was dutifully paying reparations in various forms to Holocaust survivors, Jewish organization and Israel. While the payments and obligations will never stop

    Germany to give $662 million to Holocaust survivors struggling during the coronavirus pandemic
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/germany-holocaust-survivors-reparations-coronavirus-pandemic/

    German government, said Wednesday that $662 million in COVID-19 relief aid will be divided among about 240,000 of the poorest Holocaust survivors.

    they are very minor comparing to Germany’s GDP.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
  86. TG says:

    “… customers would get cheaper prices and longer store hours from Korean retailers…”

    Wasn’t there something in the Bible about selling your birthright for a bowl of porridge?

  87. @ic1000

    ic, As to your point #2. Many first time business owners pay themselves an unrealistic salary so they can live the life style, two years later the business is closed. Many resturant and bar owners do this. Take $3000 a week out of the till, don’t pay sales taxes,make a partial rent payment,cheat employees out of tips, have food and beverage vendors finally demanding COD and then you shutter the business. Go tend bar someplace or work in the kitchen and three years later open a new joint.

  88. Bucky says:

    What is most curious about these Asian entrepreneurs is that they are located in poor black communities in the first place.

    They do not appear to be organic, or the result of free-market competition. If they were organic, eg naturally occurring, they would open up their businesses catering to other Asians. Or, they would go to prosperous white areas where the clientele had more money.

    I believe that there are some special regulations meant to encourage black business development that were enacted in the wake of the various racial riots. What happened was that Asians were able to be categorized as “colored” and they took advantage of these special regulations which were intended to uplift the black community.

    Absent these regulations, Walmart, which is a very white protestant institution, would drive them out of business, as Walmart has done to small town white America. But local city governments keep Walmart out, and so you have this peculiar regulatory situation where small business entrepreneurship by recent immigrants has a space to flourish.

    • Thanks: Inquiring Mind
  89. anonymous[368] • Disclaimer says:

    The difference is cultural practices and values. For the selective NYC exam schools, asian students will study for 2 years to pass it. Blacks and hispanics can’t be bothered yet their “leaders” want admission standards to be changed for “social justice”. What the solution is, I don’t know. The asian grind culture is not healthy for US society, neither is the dysfunctional pathologies in the black/hispanic communities though hispanics are better at starting community businesses. Their academic accomplishments are another story.

    https://www.straightdope.com/21342342/how-can-korean-americans-afford-to-start-so-many-grocery-stores

    Berkeley anthropologist, John Ogbu, did a study regarding academic differences between whites and blacks in affluent Shaker Heights, OH. One factor he found was that black parents assign total responsibility for education to the schools. There is little to no parental involvement with homework, etc… It would be reasonable to assert that this mentality manifests itself in other areas with detrimental results. And it’s, frankly, not restricted to just blacks. The dependency/victimhood mentality has spread through a wide swathe of America. Instead of creating their own institutions or businesses which require much more hard work, the Oppressed™ just want to take it over.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  90. utu says:
    @Muggles

    Iirc, Theroux in his African Girls (1964) claims to be responsible for introducing oral sex to Africa or Malawi at least.

  91. @PiltdownMan

    Did anyone notice that Beverly Lindsey Johnson basically said Koreans were not “people of color?” There you have it. Asians are now white.

    • Replies: @frankie p
  92. Trinity says:

    I think they describe Pakistanis that rape White women in European countries as “Asians,” or at least they used to, who knows if they even do that now, that is why I always identify Koreans, Chinese, Japanese etc., as Orientals.

    Orientals do have the best hair while negroes have the worst hair out there, so it makes since for those Koreans to sell Blackie some hair care products. To be fair to the negro, a great deal of them do have good, strong, straight “teef.” And those “teef” are so damn white looking as well, I know their dark skin helps but not to that degree. You don’t see a great deal of Blacks with bad teeth, and yet you rarely see one at the dentist office.

  93. Anon125 says:
    @Anonymous

    This is standard brain drain, same we’ve seen everywhere else. Consolidation has drained many of the brains from small-town America. Every small town used to have local stores, local banks, etc., owned and run by locals, who had to have a bit going on to keep the business in order. Today all those stores are owned by businesses headquartered in some far off city, the stores and bank branches are run by people who, while certainly intelligent, don’t have the drive to start their own business, and those who would have been the business owners are now themselves often employees, but also living in a far-away city or suburb.

    The same thing happened with blacks. Once more careers opened up to them the blacks who would have been running small businesses, and mostly just barely getting by, took better paying but easier jobs with the government or private industry.

  94. @AnotherDad

    In Africa now, the smart/successful African can’t outbreed the dumb one … and the total population ramps up much, much faster than selection could work even if they could. Disaster!

    But, but, but eugenics be racist!

  95. iStevers,take a couple of minutes and read the story of Mr. Na and Ms. Holmes. Divide a sheet of paper in half and list black stereotypes on one half and Korean stereotypes on the other. Here I’ll help you get started Works long hours (Mr. Na 7am to 9pm) Has children with no husband (Ms Holmes) Has children they put through private school and college (Mr Na) Has children who have children but no mate (Ms Holmes) Spoiler alert, even though Ms. Holmes tried to let the “protestors” in, they broke out the store front and trashed the place. Steve, thank you for my daily dose of agita.

    • LOL: JohnnyWalker123
    • Replies: @ic1000
    , @Reg Cæsar
  96. Anon125 says:
    @Redneck farmer

    A few years ago my wife and I took a vacation in a state with legalized marijuana. We had both taken pot in college but only a few times. We decided to try it again. So we found a local dispensary and walked in. There were about five customers ahead of us, and almost as many employees, but 15 minutes later we’re still standing there waiting for someone to take our order. The customer in front of us had spent 10 minutes giving one of the employees his order, and it sounded like it was going to take another ten minutes to finish. Everyone in there, most a lot younger than us, acted like they were moving (and thinking) in slow motion. None of them seemed all that happy, and their eyes were all blank. We looked at each other, realized we didn’t want to do anything that could possibly turn us into those people, and walked right the hell out.

    • Replies: @p4nc4k3s Pl34s3
  97. @Jack D

    Jack, please read the whole article. Ms. Holmes is a walking, talking stereotype.

  98. ic1000 says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Thanks. I didn’t see the link to the NYT Study Guide for that article. Glad you summarized it here.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  99. If it ain’t fried, black men won’t eat it.

    • Replies: @Trinity
    , @Gary in Gramercy
  100. AndrewR says:

    Not religious but seeking to meet other immigrants, Mr. Na soon joined a Korean church. A few years later, a friend from the church bought a shoe store on Chicago’s South Side from a white man who wanted out.

    “This man was upset that the Black people were moving into the neighborhood,” Mr. Na recalled in an interview. “Koreans didn’t care. This was an area that they could afford

    Lol

    Yet fewer than 10 percent are owned by Black women, said Tiffany Gill, a history professor at Rutgers University. Instead, many of them are owned by Korean immigrants. Korean Americans also lead some of the largest wholesale distributors that import the hair products from China.

    “These are two historically marginalized groups fighting over the same small slice of pie when there is so much more of the pie that neither has access to,” said Ms. Gill, the author of the book “Beauty Shop Politics: African-American Women’s Activism in the Beauty Industry

    Lol Koreans and blacks have almost nothing in common, but uh I’m sure somehow we can form an alliance to steal from whitey

    Crystal Holmes grew up on Chicago’s East Side

    Lake Michigan?

    Reminds me of that Journey song about “South Detroit”

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  101. epebble says:
    @prosa123

    Much of it is from temples where it is offered as a sacrifice (like Bris):

    • Thanks: PiltdownMan
  102. @Buffalo Joe

    [I]Stevers,take a couple of minutes and read the story of Mr. Na and Ms. Holmes. Divide a sheet of paper in half and list black stereotypes on one half and Korean stereotypes on the other.

    No 💩, Sherlock.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  103. Trinity says:
    @Anonymous

    Damn, that dude complied ASAP. What happened to that old New York attitude of I got your mask right here. What a joke America has become.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  104. @notsaying

    I don’t think the answer to black people’s economic woes can be to get rid of minimum wage so black business owners could undercut Asians on labor costs.

    You don’t have to lower the minimum wage for Americans, just raise it for non-citizens. Immigrants would be restricted to hiring their own native-born children, or others’. State should be able to do this. Fix the lower minimum to eligibility to vote, which states also (mostly) control.

    • Agree: Lockean Proviso
  105. J.Ross says:

    Wikipedia:

    Initially, Sarah learned about hair care from her brothers, who were barbers in St. Louis.[17] Around the time of the Louisiana Purchase Exposition (World’s Fair at St. Louis in 1904), she became a commission agent selling products for Annie Malone, an African-American hair-care entrepreneur, millionaire, and owner of the Poro Company.[5] Sales at the exposition were a disappointment since the African-American community was largely ignored.[20] While working for Malone, who would later become Walker’s largest rival in the hair-care industry,[16] Sarah began to take her new knowledge and develop her own product line.[13] In July 1905, when she was 37 years old, Sarah and her daughter moved to Denver, Colorado, where she continued to sell products for Malone and develop her own hair-care business. A controversy developed between Annie Malone and Sarah because Malone accused Sarah of stealing her formula, a mixture of petroleum jelly and sulfur that had been in use for a hundred years.

    So the first black millionaire got her start working for … a black millionaire?
    No wonder they don’t want you to touch the stuff. Also kek’d at the last line.

  106. @El Dato

    El, if you read the whole article, the “protestors” smashed their way in and looted the store anyhow.

  107. But Romanians said the same about Jews. In 1878, Benjamin Disraeli conditioned the independence of Romania on granting these “Russian” immigrants citizenship. Let me give you a quote from Wikipedia page on Antisemitic laws in Romania:

    “The Prince and later King of Romania, Carol I was an antisemite and the Liberal Interior Minister Ion Brătianu began some tightening of policies against Jews. In 1867 he demanded the prefects to enforce the regulations about the “Jewish vagabonds” and therefore stop the Jewish immigration into Romania and prevent their settlement into villages. One year later, the Chamber of Deputies received a draft law project that would attempt to eliminate the Jews from economic activity in the villages.

    The policies of the other major party, the Conservative Party, regarding the Jews were similar to the one of the Liberals. For instance, in 1873, the Lascăr Catargiu government introduced a law regarding the sale of alcoholic beverages which tried to remove the near-monopoly Jews had on these products.

    The Jews of Romania protested against the economic and political discrimination they faced and gained support from Western European Jewish organizations such as the Paris-based Alliance Israélite Universelle, which attempted to put pressure on Romania with the help of sympathetic politicians.

    Romanian legislation generally discriminated against the people who were not citizens of Romania (such as were most Jews) and as such, Jews were not allowed to hold certain offices.”

    Obviously, the Jews were terribly electable. Were it not for Antisemitic laws, they would have been kangz. This trope about “invade the world” is tiring. Some people are more industrious, and would infest even North Korea if there would be no mine fields to protect it. There was no way for previous US residents to guard themselves against Koreans, with their loose borders, muh immigrant culture, muh melting pot, muh free market, muh hard work.

  108. AndrewR says:
    @AndrewR

    This article is a goldmine

    “Ms Holmes worked in fried chicken joints until she found out beauty supply stores pay weekly”

    Lmao

    “Many beauty supply stores have a reputation for being demeaning to their Black female customers, including requiring customers check their bags at the door”

    I’m white and cleancut and have been told I can’t shop with my backpack in a grocery store. It’s called shopping in the ghetto. Robert Putnam had a few things to say about this.

    “Many black women who own beauty shops claim Korean suppliers won’t sell to them at all”

    I definitely believe this, but it’s not why joggers looted this guy’s shop.

    “As painful as it was to see her dad’s shops destroyed, Ms Na said she was happy that protests had spurred efforts to address systemic racism”

    Lmaooo

    “Mr Na was able to reopen his business with insurance money, government grants and more than $94,000 in donations from a GoFundMe his daughter set up”

    Lmao what? I mean uh if people want to give him money then cool, but it sounds like that 94k alone was worth many times more than the damage that was done. Funny to even mention the “insurance money and government grants” which I hope would have paid for it alone. Why didn’t the insurance company make him put bars on the windows? He shouldn’t have had to pay a cent.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
  109. Mr. Na, who is 65, grew up in South Korea in a home with an outhouse.

    Never mind the outhouse. Was it heated by carbon monoxide? Many Korean homes are.

    I spent a night in a room in a Seoul yogwan which had only half a window. They were afraid foreigners would try to close it, and die. You’d have a holocaust-by-hypocaust.

    The Romans had something similar, but with out the CO. They were too busy eating lead, according to some.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  110. @Not Only Wrathful

    If it walks like an Egyptian and talks like an Egyptian, …

  111. @Not Only Wrathful

    Not Only, standard Hollywood casting, Yul Brenner as the King of Siam, Marlon Brando as Japanese in Tea House and Anthony Quinn as a Bedouin in Lawrence of Arabia. Three examples but the list is long.

    • Replies: @Earl Lemongrab
  112. @J.Ross

    J, they didn’t read the Style Book, the operative word is “exhausted.”

  113. AndrewR says:
    @AndrewR

    From the comments

    Why do they always scapegoat koreans? its not like black businesses arent being burned and looted as well.

    Root of the problem was always White Americans denying Black Americans the access to economic independence. Not random immigrants opening up shop in predominantly Black neighborhood.

    “Let’s focus on whitey, colored goyim”

  114. Barnard says:

    OT: Another example of Trump winning a social media battle, but most likely losing the war. Steve Scully admits his Twitter wasn’t hacked and he is indefinitely suspended from C-Span. Whether he gets fired or not, Trump would have been better off having a good debate with an objective moderator. They never should have agreed to Scully in the first place.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/c-span-suspends-steve-scully-indefinitely-after-he-admits-he-lied-about-his-twitter-being-hacked

  115. @Mark G.

    I appreciate the review (basically) of Mr. McWhorter’s book, Mark, but I want to know something then: Of the end of segregation, increases in crime, and welfare, how much does the author mention the latter? I see in your comment you cover that effect from a different book.

    I see welfare as being the worst of the evils of the 1960s that caused the great decline in black entrepreneurship over the ensuing decades. When there is no “life penalty” for not getting married, or blowing your money, running your business into the ground, or having lots of kids that you can’t support, well, that stuff will simply happen a lot. It’s been over 50 years, and this experiment has shown us something that should have been obvious. (It was to plenty of people, but so many use taxpayer funds now for this or that, you don’t even hear an argument about the evil of government welfare anymore.

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  116. Anonymous[144] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    It’s notable that nations like France and England which expelled their Jews went on to greatness and leadership of European civilization. While the ones in the East that took them flourished briefly, then fell behind.

    Werner Sombart in his classic work The Jews and Modern Capitalism argues the opposite. That Jews expelled from Iberia were significantly responsible for the subsequent capitalist takeoff in the Netherlands and England.

    You see something similar in South East Asia. All the economic activity revolves around overseas Chinese. The natives never developed the commercial skills sets because there were always Chinese around who could beat them. The natives cultural and genetic development was impeded.

    You know nothing about SE Asian history. Chinese admixed peoples constitute a significant element of the “natives” in SE Asian countries. The main Thai ethnic group, for example. The Royal Family of Thailand has Chinese ancestors. This is the case in much of SE Asia. Furthermore, much of SE Asia such as parts of Malaya and Indonesia practiced primitive horticulture until Chinese introduced forms of agriculture that increased the native populations. This agriculture is a form of primary production, not “middle man” activity.

  117. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    Britain is still 85% White, so they could salvage it … if they had the will. But hey, they can use those two new aircraft carriers (that cost so much that they couldn’t afford actual aircraft of their own) to keep the Chinese in check.

  118. Rob says:

    It seems that several things stand in the way of blacks running businesses in the ghetto or even black suburbs. Fixing one or two wouldn’t help much, because, the each one is close to insurmountable.

    Affirmative action in government and corporate jobs pull in most of the blacks who should be running the wig and nail businesses. The hunger colleges have for blacks means every black with any ability ends up doing diversity jobs for a corporation or filling out forms in the government. Ms. Holmes is probably bright enough to be a clerk. If the owner reopens, maybe he’ll keep her?

    That the IQ distribution is shifted an sd to the left means there just aren’t many Black people at any level. About one in a thousand blacks has an IQ over 130, compared to about 2 percent of whites. The black chunk equivalent to that two percent of whites only have IQs over 115, whereas 16% of whites do. the numbers don’t favor black businesses.

    The fluid family lives of most blacks makes starting a business nearly impossible. Many white couples live off one spouse’s income while the other tries to get a business off the ground. Black people can’t do that in nearly the same numbers. There is a good chance Ms Holmes is single with children, she doesn’t need equity later. She needs income now.

    Contributing to their less effective family formation is that black men aren’t capable of pulling their weight in the modern economy to nearly the extent black women are. The academic performance of black females is not very good, and the males do far worse. This is partly because blacks are dumber, but personalIty and culture contribute a lot (yes, I know culture is largely the downstream effects of a population’s genes). A white woman with a husband has a helpmeet. A black woman with a husband may just have a full grown child to deal with.

    Black people who surmount all those obstacles to own a business face their different personality distributions’ regression to the mean, Blacks have a lot of trouble saving even with steady paychecks, The lower IQ distribution means the relatives of capable blacks are a tier below the relatives of equal whites. As Jack points out, the children of the black homeowner are ne’er do wells. The children of a white msn at the same ability level would probably be reasonably on the ball. This hurts with both his older and younger relatives. So even a black person who wants to skip the easy life of diversity director for creating a business to pass down to his children faces the bleak situation that none of his children may be capable of running the business, and they’ll just sell to a Korean or whomever, and the equity and income won’t stay in the black community.

    As I mentioned, blacks aren’t good at saving. Spending less than the make is harder than for whites. I’m sure innate personality matters for that, but so does culture, and blacks expect each other to ‘live large’ (or whatever the hep cats call that these days) when the have more money makes it hard to save enough to start a business, keep enough in the bank for a rainy day.

    I don’t think these things are problems, because don’t have solutions. They are just realities that have to be lived with. Maybe toning down AA so blacks find their economic level would help, but AA is untouchable. I am willing to bet real money that another lecture from white people will do very much good.

    Maybe cutting off immigration is the only thing white people could do that would help? Not even the middlemen minorities, just the general endless influx of unskilled and low skilled labor. Even cutting off Hispanic immigration would help, because blacks would be able to command higher wages. Anything that helps the bottom rung become more secure has positive effects moving up the ladder. Higher wages at the bottom few rungs would probably have a positive effect on black culture, there would be fewer mooching relatives. Dimmer men might be able to contribute to their offspring…

    Then again, maybe cutting off immigration wouldn’t help blacks much at all. But it would help Whitex so much that it is totally worthwhile.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  119. @Anonymous

    Yes, kind of funny how Jim Crow might actually have been better for America’s black folk.

    • Replies: @Cloudbuster
    , @J
  120. @AndrewR

    Steve may have looked on a flat map rather than a globe and not taken into account the huge difference between a line on a map projection versus a great circle route. Plus maybe the 74 had to divert to Anchorage for vibration in the #3 engine. Even then, it shouldn’t be 10,000 miles though, so … wait, am I being too spergy for you, Andrew? ;-}

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @iDeplorable
  121. Jack D says:
    @Kent Nationalist

    There is not a single Jew in my mother’s shtetl or in most of Western Ukraine (the part that was once part of Poland). When the Nazis came thru in 1941, they or the local Ukrainians killed virtually the entire Jewish population. The only reason my mother survived is that she had been deported to Siberia by Stalin before the Germans came thru (Stalin occupied this part of Poland in 1939).

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  122. Wait. Are you saying that legal immigrants that lock down easy business opportunities are bad for African Americans in the same way that illegal immigrants who lock down low-cost jobs are bad for White Americans?

    • Agree: notsaying
  123. Jack D says:
    @anonymous

    There is little to no parental involvement with homework, etc…

    My parents did not help me with my homework, because they were not capable. Mr. Na’s daughters received no homework help from him either, because he barely speaks Engrish. But god help them if they had brought home a bad report card.

    At least half the help I got from my parents (and Ms. Holmes’s children did not) was when the egg that became me was fertilized. That was more important than all the homework help in the world. This is really quite obvious – Secretariat didn’t win the Triple Crown because it got homework help. Breeding is very important. But we pretend that it isn’t.

    The other half was that my parents (both of them) cared deeply about me and my future and would have sacrificed anything for me (even their lives if necessary) and I knew it. And they made sure I stayed on the straight and narrow path and instilled a work ethic thru their example. Homework help is nothing compared to that.

  124. @Thulean Friend

    In ‘84, the CA State Constitution was amended to permit a government operated lottery, e.g. PowerBall, with the net-proceeds (ha!) going to K-12.

    Otherwise, the CA government is not authorized to operate a lottery.

    It would be quite a desperate, lawyer’s argument to defend a system whereby lottery tickets were given away free to only certain kids, with the prizes being, in lieu of cash, admission to Lowell.

    This is all so unnecessary. Parents who want a strong academic high school for their future, SCOTUS appointee kids should just pay to send them to Lick.

  125. RAZ says:
    @John Milton’s Ghost

    And the green grocers and dry cleaners in NY which at one time were other groups probably became heavily Asian (I think mostly Korean) by the 1980’s. May still be.

  126. Sean says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Mark mentioned the middle class black small business owners leaving and getting jobs in big business or the civil service was key, and I think that is correct. The question is why they left. Bear in mind that they could not have left a black area when there was segregation, so it is not obvious that the welfare-crime nexus was all that important. Ending segregation let the entrepreneurial fraction of blacks leave, and only the financially successful and thus genetic seed corn blacks could afford the price of a house elsewhere. The end of Redlining was a disaster for black communities.

    In his book Exodus Paul Collier suggest the decline of black US areas because the middle class left them is a model for what will happen as a result of emigration from the Third World: the West will denude nonwhite countries of their human capital (genetic seed corn) and they will spiral down into hell holes. Mere lack of welfare in those countries will not produce a class of conscientious and capable people to replace the ones who have left for the West I think.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
  127. Jack D says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    More likely it wasn’t heated at all. Fuel too expensive.

    A properly built ondol should not leak. There is supposed to be an impervious layer under the floor. If you can see or smell smoke then it’s a problem. The ondol is similar to the way a Roman bath was heated and also similar in some respects to the Russian masonry stove, which was big enough (and cool enough) to sleep on.

  128. Yes, Gore Vidal, among others, points out how, in the 20s and 30s, in his hometown Washington D.C. black neighborhoods had everything, businesses of all kinds, butchers, bakers, candlestick makers, and also a theater district. This is the Washington that Duke Ellington grew up in.

    Now it looks like a bomb hit it, says Vidal.

    Now of course, people like you think that the bomb hit it look was caused by blacks general monkey-like-ness.

    So now explain the sophisticated, black entrepreneur filled, theater district Washington. Them monkeys pretty smart and ambitious.

    Some people are so stupid that they think that everything that is now is how everything always was. And they are also so stupid that they blame whatever happens to you on you.

    Such fallacies fall under the general category of tempocentrism. Look it up, youngsters.

    Couldn’t be corporate capitalism that excoriated Washington, D.C., now. Naaaaah. It has

    • Replies: @Travis
    , @Menes
  129. @Buffalo Joe

    Rami Malek is a Copt–a direct descendant of Pharaonic Egyptians, you silly person.

  130. @Not Only Wrathful

    I’ve known a number of Coptic Christian Egyptians and while they wouldn’t pass for Irish they were clearly Caucasian.

    Pharaoh Rameses II mummy was discovered and he was a fair-skinned acquiline-nosed redhead. So, he may have passed for Irish.

  131. @Not Only Wrathful

    I’ve known a number of Coptic Christian Egyptians and while they wouldn’t pass for Irish they were clearly Caucasian.

    Pharaoh Rameses II mummy was discovered and he was a fair-skinned acquiline-nosed redhead. So, he may have passed for Irish.

  132. @Don't Look at Me

    I assume this is in response to utu’s post, at 6:47 p.m. GMT, re: Paul Theroux.

  133. @The Spirit of Enoch Powell

    What are the chances that someone on a thought crime website, who is likely to mock PC shibboleths, would, against character, choose to go along with them this one time and just happen to pick an actual Egyptian playing an Egyptian to so totally undermine his own point?

    …or perhaps I was joking…

    To note, if you type handsome Egyptian actors into Google they tend to look very white indeed, but they’re only known domestically.

    E.g

    https://pin.it/6gEZf06

  134. Anonymous[209] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad

    Old Idi had his issues, but long term, this was the right thing to do for Ugandans.

    Idi Amin also expelled white Europeans from Uganda, not just the Asian Indians.

    Uganda went into significant decline following Idi Amin’s actions, and any recent progress has been due to Chinese investment and involvement in the economy. So I’m not sure on what basis you’re judging Amin a long term success.

    But that’s beside the point here. The point here is that your logic could be, and is, used to justify anything, anywhere. Some sort of hypothetical, imagined future can justify anything. That’s part of the logic behind the 1619 Project, “systemic racism” etc., namely that without white racism, blacks would be equal or advanced. Wakanda is literally an imagined hypothetical reality that some people think would be reality if not for white racism and oppression. The Haitian slave revolt could be justified by this logic. Indians living peacefully ever after or becoming advanced without Columbus can and is implicitly used to justify anti-colonialism. Etc.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  135. @Achmed E. Newman

    There is also an argument that welfare in the 1960s was a “necessary” evil caused by immigration. Once we opened the floodgates to Latinos and Asians no one wanted to hire low skilled, low IQ blacks. Not worth the effort when a Guatemalan will do the job at half the wage and twice as well. No one was willing to let Blacks starve or become desperate enough to revolt, so welfare was the answer. Basically welfare is the price the working class pays so that employers can enjoy cheap imported labor and kick low skilled Americans (white and black) to the curb. Kind of a raw deal for everyone but the employers.

    • Agree: notsaying
  136. @Not Only Wrathful

    Can someone tell me why this white man is playing an Egyptian?

    Can you tell us why this Egyptian is playing a white man?

    He should be playing bridge:

    With Bill and Warren:

  137. @Peter Akuleyev

    There is also an argument that welfare in the 1960s was a “necessary” evil caused by immigration. Once we opened the floodgates to Latinos and Asians no one wanted to hire low skilled, low IQ blacks.

    Except it took at least a decade for the new immigration to pick up steam– and much of that consisted of 1970s Indochinese refugees. Many of the immediately post-1965 immigrants were from Europe, using the family-reunification gambit originally meant to slow racial change.

    Most cheap labor in those days was from the Western Hemisphere, which was outside the immigration act.

  138. Clyde says:
    @bomag

    Tally up a large chunk of local, state, and federal budgets that go to filling EBT cards for Blacks.
    Add in part of crime costs from those who might otherwise have been restrained with more of a stake in society.
    We should have picked our own cotton; we should have kept our own factories; we should have run our own retail establishments.

    Similar to America, you have Australia and Canada that are white founded immigration based nations. More specifically founded by NE Europeans. These nations are finding their own way to destroy their white majority. There is white majority death wish to obliviate their (our) European heritage and ancestors who sacrificed so much in wars and taming our frontier. So that the recent heirs could live in such opulence that their brains got soft as a grape.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  139. Anon[421] • Disclaimer says:

    I won’t comment on the trigger happiness of US police, but they’re equal opportunity shooters:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8845045/Cops-arrive-Tarzan-star-Ron-Elys-home-wifes-body-killed-son.html

    Complete w video reconstruction cause family is complaining he was wrongfully killed.

  140. @Peter Akuleyev

    Well, I was going to reply, Peter, but now it’ll just be what Reg said.

    Besides my own experience in seeing so few and knowing of so few foreigners even in the late 1970s, with exceptions only for Southern California, Miami, the biggest cities, and a few around universities. I’ll link you to a Peak Stupidity post for numbers of foreigners residing in the country, called “Foreigners in America”, with the following graph just cropped a bit to cut off projections, from a Census Bureau graph:

    Note especially the % of foreigners, Peter.

    Also, yes, I am well aware that these numbers don’t include illegal aliens, but again, experience means something. You wouldn’t see Mexicans ANYWHERE in 1975 America, except, again, Miami and Southern Cal, and the many of long-term legal residence in the desert SW.

  141. AndrewR says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I don’t often compliment Mr Sailer but I know he’s aware of the difference between a Mercator map and a sphere

  142. @AnotherDad

    Diversity giveth … diversity taketh away.

    Blessed be the name of Diversity!

    It’s our new religion, you know.

  143. George says:

    “clearly Korean wholesalers were publishing three ring binders of how to run a black hair care products that anybody off the 747 from Seoul could follow perfectly.”

    I don’t think most people could operate a small business. My guess is many of the Koreans had some business experience in Korea. Some might have high level credentials:

    South Korea’s latest big export: Jobless college graduates
    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-southkorea-jobs-kmove-insight-idUSKCN1SI0QE

    The 3 ring binders explaining how to run a business are fairly common. Search on how to start a pizzeria for example or how to start a beauty supply business. The difference might be that the Koreans have a kind of network feeder system. I also wonder if Korean illegal immigrants are used to do menial work in the stores.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  144. @Sean

    Except Mexico, where the White engineers stay in Mexico and the low skilled Indios come to America, send remittances back home and their birthright children stay to become low achieving, working class Americans. It’s a win-win, at least from Mexico’s perspective!

    • Replies: @Sean
  145. @gent

    He’s trying to summon up the testicular fortitude to title it
    “The Asian in the woodpile”

  146. @Mark G.

    Sounds somewhat like Charles Murray’s “Coming Apart”. Except the bottom third of Whites can keep it together better than the bottom third of Blacks. Of course, that’s not saying much for the bottom third of Whites…

  147. AndrewR says:
    @El Dato

    Bizarre comment. This isn’t 1992 and this isn’t Los Angeles. And “Korean” and “Asian” are not synonyms.

  148. Travis says:
    @obwandiyag

    good point

    Blacks were more functional before liberal welfare benefits removed the incentives to work, while the higher IQ blacks were granted affirmative action to escape the Black neighborhoods. The Blacks who were capable of running a small business would find it easier to obtain an affirmative action job, with more job security , better benefits and the ability to move into a desegregated town, away from the ghetto Blacks.

    • Replies: @obwandiyag
  149. @Achmed E. Newman

    OK, I should add the Central Valley of California and other labor intensive farm areas.

  150. frankie p says:
    @Don't Look at Me

    Did you also notice how she said “People of color are organizing to get a share.”? They should organize: organize the funding, supply, labor, store locations, etc. It’s called doing business, and when you organize it and run it well, you succeed. “Organizing” here refers to pressure on government to gib people of color unfair advantage in the market.

  151. @Peter Akuleyev

    There’s also the problem that sometimes the high IQ are better able to hallucinate their own reality (my own theory). This is made worse with IQ segregation. Trust me, my yuppie neighbors know nothing of the bottom 90% of the Black population or even working class Whites for that matter. Their policy prescriptions and BLM enthusiasm is ample evidence that they live in an insulated bubble. As Sowell and others have noted, it is often the simple man, with direct knowledge, that can best understand what these high-IQ idiots do not.

    I think this coming apart (as noted in Murray’s book of the same name and even by Liberal authors – see Bobos in Paradise) is what’s driving most of the populist movements throughout the West. Immigration may be the biggest element of this divide, but it’s not the only one (see policing, rule of law, identity politics etc). The elites are insulated high-IQ idiots that think they know better. But books and abstract hallucinations are not the best teacher.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  152. Anonymous[813] • Disclaimer says:

    They get shafted for it in college admissions too, but Northeast Orientals tend not to stand tall in the kind of zany personality tics crucial to making it in this media-drenched era. We live in the ecstatic and penetrating mode of 2020, the year of lolcow freebasing Fortunate Sons and Based Garrison Keillor. How do people who WHAPBTR (work hard & play by the rules) – furthermore, foreign people attempting that – grandstand their way to status and acclaim under such a regime? Worst part is the South Korean film/TV/music/advertising industry giving us a run for our money, in terms of degenerate materialism and attention-whoring. I cannot foresee that place being bourgeois and stable a decade from now,

  153. Jack D says:
    @Anonymous

    Old Adolf had his issues, but long term, this [murdering all non-Aryans in conquered territories] was the right thing to do for the Germans.

    If the only test of what is right is what is in the long term interest of a conquering race, then there is nothing, not even genocide, that cannot be justified.

  154. Jack D says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Note that we are just getting back to the 1910 numbers. One way of looking at this is that the situation in 1910/2010 is “normal” for America and it was 1940-1990 period that was anomalous.

    But this period is the frame of reference for most Boomers so America feels “wrong” to them now. I admit to having this feeling – once I was at an outlet mall (an immigrant favorite) in a Philadelphia exurb and I looked around and it was a sea of brown and yellow peoples and it felt strange, like I wasn’t in my own country anymore. The America of your childhood is always the “real” America to you but the only constant in American life is constant change.

  155. Your average consumer thinks there are two kinds of Americans: black and white, so in any group there should be as many blacks as whites. This is not in any way meant to be satire. It’s the first-order model most people hold in their heads.

  156. @znon

    znon, just push the upper case button…Whites. So easy. Thanks for the reply. Stay safe.

  157. @ic1000

    ic, glad I could help. Thanks for the reply.

    • LOL: ic1000
  158. @Jack D

    Whenever there’s a sale anywhere, I always see lots of Asians, Indians, and West Asians.

    Those people know how to get a good deal.

  159. @Reg Cæsar

    Reg, you are going to scoop that up,Right?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  160. In other Black-Asian news:

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  161. @AndrewR

    Sailer obviously was driven by a Somalian taxi driver,

    • LOL: Rob McX
  162. @Jack D

    I strongly disagree, Jack. (Big VDare reader here, so I got the gist of the numbers from almost 20 years of reading professionals on the subject)

    The anomaly periods were 1880s to 1921 and 1965 till now. Those are the huge-influx periods, BTW, not the time during which one would have felt “this is not my country”. I wasn’t there last time around, but let’s say 1895 or 1900 to the early 1930s last time and 1995 to ongoing this time for this real effect. One could just compare the foreign percentage (it’s a fitted line segment, so this is not exact) of 1995, ~ 9% to end-of-WWII, (which I’m sure had a big beneficial effect on assimilation), the same number, but there is a major difference.

    The last time around, the Irish, E. Euros (Jews as a lot of this), and Italians were still Western peoples in looks, for the most part, and culture. This time around, it is almost completely NOT those people, but very foreign foreigners. Will it take only 30 years until they are mostly assimilated, say early 1950s America, and that’s from an immigration near cut-off? Were a moratorium put in place now, with this 55 year stretch already, instead of under 40 years, and very different people (not in just 3 or so major types either, but dozens!) it would still take 100 years at the best, maybe never. Welcome to Brazil.

    The real America was settled by people from the British Isles, with lots of Scandinavians and Germans in certain areas. You should also remember that before the official US was formed these same people, mostly just the people from the British Isles, had been living on their own on the continent for a couple of centuries as it was. You should read the words of the Founders though, on this.

    • Replies: @Anonymous Jew
  163. @Trinity

    #Sad. That video does make you wonder if the thug yelling from his SUV had a 9mm pointed at the guy too. Man, why wear a gown like that? It’s almost as hard to run in as those pants-down-to-your-ass are. Dress for Egress, is what I say.

    • Agree: Trinity
  164. @Jack D

    Good HBD discussion.

    I think you have the arrow of causation backward. England and France prospered after expelling their Jews because they really didn’t need them in the 1st place.

    Complex. Causation is flowing each way and sideways as well.

    Clearly, expelling the Jews took leadership that both thought they could prosper without the Jews and had the foresight to do it. But England wasn’t a strikingly advanced place at the end of the 13th century. It became a leading–then the leading–nation in Europe and the world after expelling the Jews, ending serfdom and building the capabilities of its own people up over centuries. The cultural/genetic feedback outlined in “Farewell to Alms”.

    After Spain expelled its Jews its economy stagnated because they didn’t have “the necessities” to develop their own economy.

    This is wrong. First off–pick a figure–half? the Jews converted and stayed. And Spain wasn’t lacking the “necessities” … it was the leading seafarer after Portugal and was out colonizing the world.

    No what happened in Spain–i assume there’s a considerable economic literature on this–is the “resource curse”. Spain didn’t have to develop, because New World gold and silver was pouring into Spain–providing the specie for Europe’s expansion, and inflation, but also suppressing the need for Spaniards to develop their economy. Potosi was Spain’s Ghawar.

    I visited my mother’s shtetl in Ukraine. Now that all the Jews are gone, there’s less commercial activity there now than there was 100 years ago.

    Maybe something happened in those 100 years?

    Seriously Jack, they are a generation out of communism and have issues of political stability, especially about the orientation toward Russia and the West.

    Furthermore any rural hamlet has been braindraining people even during Soviet times–you don’t study physics or engineering and stay there–as is true in rural America too (e.g. my parents). Now Ukrainians with drive have been leaving to go to Poland or further West.

    Long term i wouldn’t bet against the post-Jewish Ukrainians. They’ve got good land, resources. But they have issues to sort out, including the eugenic fertility problem–which basically everyone else also has to grapple with. (No one very seriously yet–unfortunately. But some fairly smart nation will find the secret sauce and they will win. Or maybe it really is a brave new world and it will be sorted by CRISPR.)

    But “now” isn’t my point. My point is “what aids your development”.

    Poland, and the later Polish-Lithuanian Commenwealth were not impoverished backwaters (in relative terms) back in the day when Jews came. But even having most of worlds Jews “bringing prosperity” somehow did not result in success! … but in relative decline relative to the West. The presence of the Jews actually allowed the intensification and long extension of serfdom. It impeded the cultural-genetic development–middle-classization–of the native populations.

    I’d assert that in the absence of Jews–say the Ashkenazim had never existed–Ukraine would be materially better off today. It’s development would have been closer to the development of the West: an earlier end to serfdom; more people having higher skills and the genes selected on having/using those skills propagating more through the population. (Environment drives selection, and people’s genes help create environment. Gene-culture co-evolution.)

    ~~

    That’s my point.

    There are two competing claims:

    1) Diversity makes us stronger! (the Jewish minoritarian ideology)
    Different peoples, different skills … the empire grows rich with its rich tapestry of peoples, (each with its own place and role).

    (e.g. Ottoman Empire, Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, India, feudalism generally, the American Confederacy ;-), post-rise-of-the-Jews America, increasingly 21st century Western Europe)

    and

    2) We’re all in this together, nationalism. (the Anglo and general Western nationalist ideology)
    A common people developing the nation.

    (e.g. the post-feudal Anglo-sphere, the Netherlands, the early American nation–slavery aside, mid-20th century America, France, Germany, post-feudal Japan, Korea, now rising China)

    I’ll bet on door #2.

    • Thanks: RadicalCenter
  165. Jim Dandy says:
    @prosa123

    ‘Much of the human hair sold for extensions and wigs comes from inmates in Chinese concentration camps.’ What ‘concentration camps’? There are none. You’re spreading CIA propaganda, bud. Some Uighur muslims, having been encouraged by elements working for the CIA or NED, turn to al Qaida or its equivalents. Those people are sent to facilities for re-education & jobs training. Who but a CIA spook could object to that?

  166. @The Alarmist

    Unfortunately mainstream discussion of that idea is forbidden.

  167. @Dave Pinsen

    Dave, two thoughts from your post. First, did CBS actually say Tadataka was attacked by ‘black people?” Doesn’t seem possible in today’s PC world. Should read…”Asian interloper injured in fall at Harlem subway station. Black bystanders rush to his aid. Incompetent police still unable to find Tadataka’s phone and bank card.” Second, the author of the tweet has “pronouns pending?” This shit is sad.

    • Replies: @black sea
    , @ic1000
  168. MBlanc46 says:
    @Anonymous

    That was called segregation. We were told that it was evil and had to be destroyed. We destroyed it.

  169. MBlanc46 says:
    @Inquiring Mind

    I bought Joe Louis Milk in the late 1960s when I was a grad student on the South Side. It was gone by the time that I returned to Hyde Park in the mid-1980s.

  170. Anonymous[122] • Disclaimer says:

    There’s difference between Asian ability and Asian Supremacy.

    Supremacy requires will and agenda. Without it, ability just means individual success.

    Japanese-Americans were able and successful but had no will to power.

    So, it doesn’t matter if Asians have ability. They want to serve the power, not gain the power. They are dogs.

    Jews got the will.

  171. prosa123 says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    At least in the New York area, many of the formerly black-owned beauty salons have been put out of business by competition from salons run by Dominican women.

  172. @anon

    Asians don’t typically buy insurance. They consider it wasted money to pay premiums. An Asian woman at where I used to work told me so.

    So there is no “Jewish Lightning” option here.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
  173. @Brian Reilly

    It’s a bit of a prisoner’s dilemma/free rider situation.

    If everybody pitches in a little extra to buy American there are lots of benefits that accrue to everyone (lower unemployment, more diversified economy, etc.)

    However for an individual the best outcome is for everybody else to buy American and you buy the cheaper imported stuff. You get to be a free rider.

    So it is virtually impossible to do this from the bottom-up by convincing everybody that it would be in their best interest if we all did spent a small % more on our consumer goods produced domestically. Some % of people just don’t care and won’t do it, and then the remaining people start to feel like suckers and they break ranks and then the whole thing falls apart.

    Instead it needs to come from the top down in the form of tariffs and industrial policy.

    • Replies: @GoRedWings!
    , @Menes
  174. Anon[410] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    You seem quite unfamiliar with Ukraine’s history. They had no independence or autonomy save or a few decades which do not overlap with the country’s industrialization. Kiev was a shithole with churches, and Lvov was a shithole with synagogues, but neither had any industry to speak of until the Soviets. According to Jewish whining, Galicia was one of the most Jewish and one of the poorest places in Europe.

    Jewish are not precisely known for their ability to farm, dig, stitch, or weld. Sure, you have your US legends about the hard-working Jew, and probably stuff needs to get done in Israel. But their presence in Eastern Europe didn’t change anything besides making raki available to more people, by doubling its volume with water and charging slightly less.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Jack D
  175. Isn’t yong his family name?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  176. Anon[299] • Disclaimer says:
    @prosa123

    I am told much of it is cut personally by Xi Jingping from the purest Tibet and Uyghur Vestals. Hair is a big part of China’s exports, and therefore this stupid story occupies a yuuge part of your brain. In your brain, there must be very little space left, but just enough to squeeze “China virus” and “Chinese fentanyl”. Xi Jingping personally manufactured all that fentanyl, wrote the prescriptions, and filled them. He also manufactured the virus.

    He’s reaching levels of evil previously seen only in Putin’s hackers.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
  177. Anonymous[314] • Disclaimer says:
    @Muggles

    Yes, mooching is a big problem. A black-run restaurant for example will never last long because the owner’s relatives will all show up expecting to be fed for free.

  178. @George

    A Korean guy who worked for me 30 years ago was the son of an immigrant pharmacist, who got to American in mid-life, couldn’t learn English well enough to pass the pharmacy tests, so he became a dry-cleaner and now owned 5 dry cleaning shops in the hood.

    Back then, People Magazine ran a profile of the 9 boys who scored perfect 1600s on the SAT that year. One was a Korean kid whose father had been a professor of German literature at the leading South Korean university and was known as the country’s top expert on Goethe. But, he too, couldn’t learn English to become a professor, so he went to Stuttgart for training as a Porsche mechanic and now was the top Porsche mechanic in Beverly Hills. He promised his son a new Porsche in return for a 1600. The son is now a well-known neuroscientist.

    So, not exactly fair competition for ghetto blacks.

  179. J says:
    @The Alarmist

    Ms Crystal Holmes is earning more working for Mr Yong Sup Na compared what she could earn being owner of the shop. She knows it. Operating any business in a bad neighborhood is no sinecure, and the Koreans are providing good service for each dollar.

  180. Anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    …. And the ones that do intuit what is going on are invariably too cowardly or too sycophantic to the party line to raise a squeak of dissent.

    Was forever thus.

  181. black sea says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Headline should read:

    “Harlem residents defend their neighborhood against push for gentrification.”

    • Thanks: Buffalo Joe
  182. J.Ross says:
    @Anon

    Who but a Chinese government employee would care, or even think, which specific bug unit actually made American sabotage product # 389538128753943200 or asp# 389538128753943201?

  183. @utu

    Are there even 240,000 Holocaust survivors even alive? I would count a Holocaust survivor as someone who could actually remember being in a concentration camp. At the very latest, that would be someone born in 1941, maybe 1942. So, 78 years of age and older. Given that, the 240k number seems a little high.

    • Replies: @utu
  184. @anon

    But will he be able to renew that insurance, and if so at what price?

    I suspect Ms. Holmes was part of his insurance, broadly defined. He might need to hire some more like her, to appease the locals.

  185. ic1000 says:
    @Buffalo Joe

    Re: violinist attacked in Harlem

    > Second, the author of the tweet has “pronouns pending?” This shit is sad.

    It being the Current Year, that made me laugh when I read it, especially given the red pill nature of the content.

    But Twitter hasn’t cancelled the guy’s account yet. So perhaps your take on it is correct.

  186. AceDeuce says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    I don’t know that Walker invented the “conk” per se. If memory serves, that actually involves using lye. Homosexual negro Malcolm X describes that process in his autobio.

    Walker’s recipe involved petroleum jelly and sulfur. It was not original with her. In fact, it had been in use for more than 100 years before her. In fact, Walker was accused of stealing the method from Annie Malone, another negress millionaire of the time, for whom Walker worked when she was starting out.

  187. @Rob

    Well said. Agree completely.

  188. @Clyde

    There is white majority death wish to obliviate their (our) European heritage and ancestors who sacrificed so much in wars and taming our frontier. So that the recent heirs could live in such opulence that their brains got soft as a grape.

    Whites have the WEIRD personality profile–higher openness, higher affective empathy and less tribalism than other peoples. Property applied to being neighborly it allowed building coherent, strong nation states.

    But now–our brains pickled for the last 50 years in a non-stop assualt of Jewish minoritarism from academia, the schools, government, the new media and Hollyweird–our brains really are soft as grape, and our openness turned against us as a weapon.

    • Replies: @Clyde
  189. @Peter Akuleyev

    Steve is still stuck in the white vs. black paradigm, which is where the media wants us to stay …

    Please re-read Steve’s post.

  190. @CPK

    Same with the Harold’s Fried Chicken Shack we used to frequent as college students on the South Side of Chicago. We used to ask each other, “you up for some bulletproof chicken?”

    Drove a long way for those cardiologist-recommended meals, and it was worth it.

    Imagine feeling comfortable answering the question “white or dark” in Chicago now? 😉

  191. anonymous[251] • Disclaimer says:

    Sigh

    Ethnic/racial/religious alien merchants in poor homogenous neighborhoods of “native” people are usually envied and or disliked hated.

    It was that way with victorious Vietnamese Communists going after hate, alien Han Chinese Merchants in Vietnam in the 1970s – the original “boat people” were these ethnic Han Chinese merchants that had their businesses confiscated by victorious Vietnamese Communists.

    Korean merchants in LA got the worst of things by the Black Rodney King rioters, looters – (Why exactly are Korean Merchants supposed to get robbed, looted and or killed because 1 Black AA guy Rodney King go to drunk and let LA police on a 100 mile 100 MPH reckless driving chase, then Rodney decides to physical jump out of the car and fight the police. How is that all the Korean’s fault>

    And of course moderately successful Jewish merchants “kaufmen” in Weimar Germany were resented by native White Germans who were suffering the worst unemployment and mass inflation in their nation’s history.

    Most of this is just economic envy, but there are realities that ethnic alien merchants can exploit the locals in things like being bad slum lords, usury money lenders – most ethnic stereotypes have a lot of truth to them.

  192. @International Jew

    Perhaps he should have hired a couple relatives and equipped himself and the relatives with shotguns, handguns, and body armor. Also keep a couple young large dogs on premises, one at the back door and one at the front door/window. It is no way to live, but that is life with African “Americans.”

  193. Clyde says:
    @AnotherDad

    Whites have the WEIRD personality profile–higher openness, higher affective empathy and less tribalism than other peoples. Properly applied to being neighborly it allowed building coherent, strong nation states.

    This is whites today who are spoiled, spiritually degenerated by the wealthy societies we created. Whites were very strongly tribal in Europe if you dial back in time. Vikings invading England. Danish invading England. Just as an example there were various Protestant vs Catholic wars going on for ages. Many dumb, useless religious wars. The 30 years war. Protestant England vs Catholic Spain has been playing out for ages and even plays out today in America vs Mexico/Central America. As these Catholic nations effectively invade the Protestant founded USA.

    Just read the dismaying Wiki on the round robin (everyone gets to try and kill everyone) 30 Years War for some Euro Hyper Tribalism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years’_War

  194. Jiminy says:

    I know here in the land down under, on the rare occasion that blacks are running a business, then it will be with the heavy assistance of government grants and handouts. As well they would have whites doing the main share of the work. Actually you seldom see blacks working outside of government positions really. I also think that asians put in big hours with the running of their businesses. And if you are clever enough to take advantage of a situation, then all the better. I remember visiting a penal colony historic site here and being told of a young Pom who deliberately broke the law so that he could get a free boat ride, being transported halfway across the world. He used the opportunity to become a very wealthy businessman.

  195. @Achmed E. Newman

    wait, am I being too spergy for you

    You don’t have to reply to every single comment if you don’t want. 5,061 comments year to date. Maybe take a breath…

    Also, shut up Reg!

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  196. utu says:
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    The definition of Holocaust survivor keeps evolving. Not so long ago Jews who lived in North Africa under Vichy France were coopted.

    As long as Germany pays new groups will be coopted.

    Claims Conference Obtains Approximately $26 Million For 7,000 Holocaust Victims Who Lived Under Persecutory Restrictions
    http://www.claimscon.org/2011/04/morocco/

    In the past, the Claims Conference had obtained compensation payments for other North African Jews who had been incarcerated in labor camps during WWII, but the persecution of Moroccan Jews under the rule of Vichy France had not been acknowledged.

    I would expect that America Jews who could have travelled to Europe but did not because of war could be considered Holocaust survivors by similar logic.

  197. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Industry doesn’t just mean Soviet steel mills. I have visited Lemberg (the present day Lviv) which escaped damage in both wars and you can tell from the building stock that it was a prosperous place with a grand opera house and university and fine old apartment bldgs, etc. (the countryside was and is poor). You don’t build a city like that off of the earnings from selling watered down vodka in your tavern. There may not have been a lot of steel mills but Jews owned a lot of small and medium sized family enterprises doing light industry – things like confectionery manufacture, footwear and garments, tobacco products, enamelware, etc., etc. And yes, vodka distillation. The economy of Italy is a lot like this.

    • Replies: @Anon
    , @Peter Akuleyev
  198. Jack D says:
    @anon

    The article said that he rebuilt in part with insurance money and government grants and in part because his daughters did a G0 Fund Me page which raised $94,000. I wonder who contributed?

  199. Jack D says:
    @Anon

    Jewish are not precisely known for their ability to …stitch.

    I am guessing from this and your reference to raki that you are from somewhere in the former Ottoman Empire and therefore don’t really know many actual Jews or their professions.

    Jews in fact were well known for their ability to stitch. At one time the garment industry of NY (which supplied the entire US) was dominated by Jews from top to bottom (except for Buffalo Joe’s Italian uncle who only pretended to be Jewish). Tailoring was a common Jewish profession in the Old Country also. You are unlikely to meet a Jewish tailor nowadays but Jews own many major fashion brands (Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, etc.).

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    , @Reg Cæsar
  200. @Jack D

    Jews in fact were well known for their ability to stitch.

    The Jews of Savile Row are obviously a mystery to the commenter quoted.

    • Replies: @Anon
  201. @Buffalo Joe

    Reg, you are going to scoop that up, right?

    Would you like it on white, wheat, or gluten-free toast?

  202. @Jack D

    …Jews own many major fashion brands (Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein…)

    Men’s Wearhouse.

    Founded by George “I gahr-untee it” Zimmer. Ironically, Zimmer(man) means “carpenter”, not “tailor”, which is Schneider, Snyder, and its variants.

  203. @Travis

    You blind, deluded fool. I predicted one of you monsters would raise his ugly head.

    Corporatization of small businesses and the destruction and off-shoring of the industrial base caused the destruction of black neighborhood businesses. TV destroyed the theater districts. AS I SAID, you people always blame whatever happens to you on you. I blame your stupidity on your lack of brain cells.

  204. Anon[318] • Disclaimer says:
    @Jack D

    Re. Lvov, you said something about the Industrial Revolution being brought there, or at least hastened, by the local Jews. I wouldn’t have wasted my time if it weren’t for that flagrant absurdity. Universities and opera houses don’t mean a thing to the industrial revolution. Both pre-date industry, do not depend, and are not somehow improved by industry.

    Re. the famous NYC tailors of Jewish extraction, yes, I already admitted you have your US stories. Maybe one thousand Jews sew clothes for five years in Manhattan. Probably it was a tax-avoiding trick. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Asch Building was in fact a huge brothel. I tend to classify stories about Jews in manual work together with Elie Wiesel’s memories, in the “We wuz burned alive” section. You, delousing agent was not used or delousing, but for killing 6 gorillion.

    Also, it’s precisely the Ottoman inheritance that gave us a rich experience with “hard working” Jews. If I was some Japanese who saw Jews only on the Internet, you could have fooled me, or my parents or my grandparents. There were more than enough Jews under the Ottoman; you can still scratch many leaders in government, academy or utility companies to find the converso. I we’d be big in textile manufacturing, I am sure a Jew would get his way to have us stitch his name on the crap he’d sell to Americans. That won’t make him a tailor.

    For example, CK is a designer. He draws things, he doesn’t stitch. Legend has it that he stitched when he was a child. I am suspect he was also burned alive around that time by a mob of envious goys. Please avoid bedtime stories and ethnic myths, waste time, learn nothing.

    • Replies: @keypusher
  205. Sean says:
    @Anonymous Jew

    The poor of Africa and Asia cannot really afford the investment of coming to the West until there is a substantial diaspora in the country they are going to, which lowers the cost of emigrating. The waves of immigration from a particular country are of progressively declining quality. Mexico is different because they are so close and there is a massive diaspora, whereby the cost is within the means of Mexican working people.

    Steve Murdock of Rice University, a former boss of the US Census bureau, recently published a paper warning Texans that Hispanics are not getting enough advanced degrees and qualifications to replace highly educated whites retiring from their state’s workforce.

    Moreover, the culture of Mexico does the heavy lifting in ensuring self control, which is why Mexicans in America tend to get progressively more useless over the generations

    https://www.economist.com/news/special-report/21645996-one-american-six-now-hispanic-up-small-minority-two-generations-ago

    American-born children of Hispanic immigrants tend to be less healthy than their parents*, have higher divorce rates and go to jail more often. Jump from migrants’ children to their grandchildren, and studies have shown academic results slipping in the third generation. Conservatives fret about “downward assimilation”

  206. @iDeplorable

    “Unz tech support?”

    “Hello?”

    “Yes, this is Unz tech support.”

    “I pressed 2 for English.”

    “This IS English, sir.”

    “Oh … uhhh, OK, hey, commenter iDeplorable’s [IGNORE] feature is down again.”

    “I will open a help ticket right away sir. You are a platinum commenter. You have earned 2,000 Sky Miles with this call. Thank you, sir. If you would be so kind as to answer a quick survey after this call…. don’t mention my accent, tankyouveddymuch.”

    Click [Publish Comment]

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    , @iDeplorable
  207. Anon[379] • Disclaimer says:
    @Johann Ricke

    I said “ability to stitch”. Five suits a year (or whatever is the output of Saville Row) screams “inability to stitch”. It may be compensated by self-aggrandizement and continuous search for that one-born-every-minute customer, but we would be sharing underwear if we’d be dressed by Saville Row “hard workers”.

  208. @Achmed E. Newman

    Ellis Island immigration more or less worked out because:
    (1) it was selective. No welfare and, as an example, during certain years about half of the Italian immigrants had to return to Italy because they couldn’t make it. That’s not an IQ test but it works.
    (2) social pressure to assimilate and become “American”.
    (3) the immigrants had comparable IQs (or at least the genetic potential for comparable IQs
    (4) new immigration was eventually curbed, giving several decades time for the previous immigrants to assimilate. It’s said that many Ellis Island immigrants didn’t fully assimilate until immigration laws were changed again in the 1960s. That rings true in my personal experience as all of my grandparents were still somewhat bilingual and it was not until my father’s generation (Boomers) that we became English-only Americans. And it took until my generation (Gen-X) for me and at least one of my cousins to become Jew-skeptic right wingers. Better late than never.

    What we’re facing now isn’t a second wave of immigration; it’s the inevitable end of America as we know it. I don’t see a way to solve our current Balkanization without at least a couple groups breaking off and (hopefully peacefully) taking a significant chunk of the country with them. And that’s the a best case scenario.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
  209. @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    And if you can’t trust Ice Cube, who can you trust?

  210. @Hamlet's Ghost

    Hamlet, from the article he does have insurance.

  211. @Anon125

    The look on their faces is because they only make $10-15 dollars per hour. They have the same prospects as a fast food worker.

  212. @Achmed E. Newman

    I went to school in Indiana in the late 60s. You occasionally would see primative barracks on farms, which I was told, were housing for migrant workers, presumably Mexicans.

    • Replies: @keypusher
  213. Anonymous[290] • Disclaimer says:
    @Foreign Expert

    “Na” is the surname. Could be one of several Chinese characters, e.g. 羅, 蘿, 邏, 那.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Korean_surnames

  214. @Jack D

    Lemberg was also the home of Polish aristocrats, Austrian government functionaries, and a military garrison. It was never a poor city even if the surrounding countryside was miserable.

  215. @Achmed E. Newman

    Fair point. I am simplifying somewhat but of course it would also be crazy to say that in the space of just 15 years welfare managed to destroy black society. Obviously there are other disfunctions at work. And a reluctance to hire blacks pre-dates massive Latino immigration and certainly helped create demand for Latino labor in the 1980s.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  216. @Jack D

    Some of the Ukrainians had jobs working in the Jewish mills, etc. – now they are back to subsistence farming

    Bullshit. As if Ukraine doesn’t have mills (and other job opportunities) now. There is much less subsistence farming than back in the old days, what with the advent of modern agricultural technology. (Ever heard of Ursus machinery from Poland? They also have lots of Wendt and other used German stuff in Eastern Europe…) Let’s go and ask Ukrainians which situation they prefer, shall we?

  217. @Peter Akuleyev

    I agree that other dysfunctions were at work. Welfare was the most dysgenic, causing white people to have to hand over their hard-earned money to help raise black children and support black single Moms. It’s been not 15 years of this, but 55, Peter.

  218. @SimpleSong

    However for an individual the best outcome is for everybody else to buy American and you buy the cheaper imported stuff. You get to be a free rider.

    You’re assuming no difference in quality. What if the American stuff is better, healthier, more durable, more stylish etc.? What if there’s a stigma on buying foreign? In Germany, few people buy foreign cars (with the exception of Škoda (Czech) and SEAT (Spanish), both part of Volkswagen, equipped with German engines) because they are considered ugly and cheap. Which they are 😉

  219. keypusher says:
    @3g4me

    No, he’s cogently presenting an argument, you dumb prick. Learn to read.

  220. keypusher says:
    @Foreign Expert

    The Cider House Rules is set in the 1940s. The migrant apple pickers are Southern blacks. I wonder when that changed.

  221. keypusher says:
    @Anon

    I think Ron must have cloned Julius Streicher.

    • Agree: Dissident
  222. Menes says: • Website
    @SimpleSong

    So it is virtually impossible to do this from the bottom-up……..Instead it needs to come from the top down in the form of tariffs and industrial policy.

    Right. Common sense tells us that. But that goes against the ideology of the Republican Party: hatred for Government regulations and worship of the Invisible Hand of the Free Market.

  223. Menes says:
    @obwandiyag

    Gore Vidal, among others, points out how, in the 20s and 30s, in his hometown Washington D.C. black neighborhoods had everything, businesses of all kinds, butchers, bakers, candlestick makers, and also a theater district. This is the Washington that Duke Ellington grew up in.

    Now it looks like a bomb hit it, says Vidal.

    Another prosperous black town that ended up looking like it was bombed. This time by direct mob action: rampaging jealous whites aided by police destroyed the prosperous black Greenwood community in Tulsa, Oklahoma in 1921. Three hundred people were killed, hundreds more wounded, 9000 made homeless:

    Before:

    After:

    https://daily.jstor.org/the-devastation-of-black-wall-street/

    This “modern, majestic, sophisticated, and unapologetically black” community boasted of “banks, hotels, cafés, clothiers, movie theaters, and contemporary homes.” Not to mention luxuries, such as “indoor plumbing and a remarkable school system that superiorly educated black children.” Undoubtedly, less fortunate white neighbors resented their upper-class lifestyle. As a result of a jealous desire “to put progressive, high-achieving African-Americans in their place,” a wave of domestic white terrorism caused black dispossession.

    According to Messer, the police force also contributed to the riot. Due to their ineffective leadership, they allowed mobs to gather at the courthouse for hours before seeking additional assistance. Furthermore, they actively participated in the riot by deputizing whites without discretion, arming them with guns to multiply the police force overnight. The police disregarded due process, arresting blacks and interning them in detention camps; meanwhile, no whites were arrested during the riot.

    • Replies: @bomag
  224. bomag says:
    @Menes

    Do you really want to start swapping anecdotes about who did bad stuff to whom?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  225. Anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:
    @bomag

    White Americans like you are evil and need to be constantly reminded of that fact.

  226. @Achmed E. Newman

    80 words and 386 characters in REPLY to someone telling you that you talk too much! I might have to give up, embrace your jabbering. Think of it like sleeping near an ocean, listening to the surf roll in.

    What’s that noise? That’s Achnad’s 7,000th off-topic comment…

    Also, shut up Reg Caesar

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  227. @iDeplorable

    Still broken? Ya just can’t get good customer care these days.

    In case they still haven’t closed-out that help ticket, I got your Ocean Blue:

    • Replies: @iDeplorable
  228. @Achmed E. Newman

    Still broken? Ya just can’t get good customer care these days.

    Achnad, at just under 5,130 comments in 2020 you’re still a couple hundred behind Reg. If you’re going to win the Geriatric Word-Diarrhea BlabberFest this year you’re going to have to pick up the pace.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  229. @iDeplorable

    Your great concern is duly noted.

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