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Back in the 1980s, televisions didn’t immediately turn on. So on a Sunday in April 1986 when I turned on my TV to see what was happening in the last round of the Masters, I was initially puzzled by the fuzzy picture. The camera was pointing at the par 5 15th hole and the Augusta National crowd, the finest sports audience this side of St. Andrew’s, was screaming in appreciating of something, but nobody’s ball was visible.

Then a blond man walked to the tee of the 16th hole at Augusta National.

Was it Greg Norman?

No, it was 46 year old Jack Nicklaus, the greatest golfer of all time, but who hadn’t won a major championship in 6 years.

Nicklaus’s arch-rival from Ohio, Tom Weiskopf, delivered one of the greater impromptu sports commentaries, when asked by Jim Nantz what Jack’s thinking right now:

If I knew the way he thought, I would have won this tournament. … No, seriously, he’s going to fire this right at the pin. He’s going to think, “Jack, this is your time right now. Make the swing that you are capable of making. Stay down, accelerate through the ball, make the swing you are capable of making, your destiny is right here.”

https://youtu.be/JfcrQB2Mc7E?t=616

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Nicklaus drove the ball to 4 feet from the hole on 16 and made the birdie tap-in. Then he birdied the 71st hole and his rivals such as Norman and Ballesteros couldn’t match his par on the 72nd hole.

 

 
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  1. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    It’s like today scientists just achieved Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings cold fusion, and we get golf posts— that figures

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Anonymous

    This. After a brainwashed tranny targeted white Christisn children, and the Democrats predictably launched their usual lies, the local police chief confirms that the shooter had looked at other schools as targets but was dissuaded by their security arrangements.
    Arm teachers, post security officers, improve doors, keep sleepy diversity hires and flighty cowards off the response team, enforce existing law, don't make exceptions for minorities, and repeal Smith-Mundt Modernization (make dishonest domestic propaganda operations illegal again), and every school shooting is totally precluded without a shot fired.

    , @Mike Tre
    @Anonymous

    Steve is Masters... baiting.

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymous


    It’s like today scientists just achieved Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings cold fusion, and we get golf posts— that figures
     
    Not just a golf post . . . but breaking news from 1986!
    , @Haxo Angmark
    @Anonymous

    that is an excellent golf post by Sailer. Statistically, Niklaus with 18 majors reigns supreme....but the greatest raw talent, with 14 majors in his first decade, is TW. If he hadn't destroyed his family by screwing every White (and one Jewess, the last one, that ratted him out) whore in 'Murka, and then all those self-inflicted injuries, he would have easily eclipsed Jack with 20+ majors.

    Replies: @Old Virginia

  2. A post like this demonstrates my last point: When are you going to put together an anthology of all your various golf articles, essays, and posts? A few b/w & color golf photos thrown in and it’s a winner.

  3. Back in the 1980s, televisions didn’t immediately turn on.

    In the 2020s, nothing immediately turns on. And there are no switches–just tiny power buttons you have to hold down for anywhere from 30 seconds to 5 minutes. And sometimes you’re not even depressing it enough and you’re just sitting there like an idiot thinking it’ll turn on eventually. It’s anyone’s guess! Progress!

    Also golf something something.

    • LOL: Art Deco
  4. A friend of mine asked Arnold Palmer to characterize Jack. His response – “Relentless Competitor”.

  5. At least the mass-shooter in TN was a person of XX chromosomes, even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.

    If the shooter had XY chromosomes, dozens would have died, rather than just six people, three of whom were 9 y/o children, and only one was an adult man.

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Thomm

    > even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.
    are you sure that's true?

    , @Tiny Duck
    @Thomm

    The alleged perpetrator committed the atrocity because of access to guns and the brutal Christian conservative culture that didn’t accept the non-binary identification of the alleged perpetrator.

    The alleged perpetrator might have pulled the trigger but was not really at fault

    YOU BIGOTS are

    Every time you refuse to use pronouns don’t ban guns elect conservatives stop immigration ban books be racist homophonic exercise white privileged make up lies about crime

    You poke the bear and cause death and destruction

    You killed those children you make me sick

    I don’t know how you sleep at night

    Replies: @Rocko

    , @AKAHorace
    @Thomm


    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.
     
    Be careful what you wish for.
    , @J.Ross
    @Thomm

    Charlie Kirk has a very good de-transitioned activist on right now with two solid points:
    FtMs are women essentially girls experiencing masculine aggression for the first time without any way to contain it, they normally become violent because how else could that end?
    The drugs children are put on for transitioning are consistently horrible, generating violence and suicidal ideation (including in kids who previously did not have these tendencies); the tranny activist propaganda point that, "if you do not go along with all the transition treatments, you will push the kid into suicide" comes in handy here, of course it's an evil lie.
    The activist's first name is Chloe; I'm not sure what her last name is because Charlie's kind of new to radio.
    What we allowed the left to do was to create nightmare vector nests, which simultaneously and through multiple means release evil; our lucyfootball is to then obsess (and, slowly, legislate) over one or two out of a couple dozen branches in the nest.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    , @Jus' Sayin'...
    @Thomm

    Two replies to friends' emails, which I wrote this morning, are apropos here, although off the main topic:


    They got you. You wrote, “Those saying a ‘woman’ shot those kids in Nashville are wrong.”.

    In fact they are right. The shooter was a biological woman with an XX chromosome pair, combined with a perhaps real mental illness that made her believe or want to believe that she was a man, or perhaps she just had a pathological desire to adopt the latest prog insanity.

    Your confusion arises from the following circumstances: Ordinarily the MSM would have utilized the latest fashion of treating this woman’s psychological issues as non-existent. They would have reported her as being a man and would have use masculine pronouns to describe her. However, this crime—committed by a tranny or at least a pseudo-tranny—was so atrocious that the MSM decided to continue their policy of defending tranny insanity by de-emphasizing the tranny basis of the crime, i.e. apparently a tranny resentment of orthodox Christian teaching on the subject.

    This has led to considerable confusion both on the part of normal citizens and bien pensant progs.

    Carefully re-read the stories.
     


    No MSM outlet will ever report this but this mass shooting incident is further confirmation of Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings:

    Mass shootings involving Negros almost invariably have the following characteristics: (1) Spontaneous exuberance and massive numbers of rounds discharged; (2) Lots of wounded, often unintended victims, and few deaths; (3) Escape of the shooter(s) who clearly intend to survive.

    OTOH, mass shootings involving Whites usually have very dis-similar characteristics: (1) Careful forethought and planning; (2) Precise targeting of victims, most of whom are shot dead; (3) The shooter's intention, going into the attack, of either dying in a shootout with the police or committing suicide.

    One further comment: In close up, targeted shootings like this one, a pistol in the hands of a decently competent shooter will be more effective than any kind of rifle. The only better weapon might be a shotgun. If this woman had any experience with a pistol, I predict we will eventually learn that she murdered her victims with the pistol she was carrying.
     

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Thomm


    I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men...
     
    I have yet to see a female mass-shooter, period. Or "full stop", where you live-- where it must be quite, um, exciting, if you have to qualify your statements about mass shooters of whichever sex.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Joe Stalin

    , @Colin Wright
    @Thomm

    '...Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.'

    Maybe they discover they don't actually like it. Men, on the other hand...

  6. All I have are vague memories of all of the adults being excited about something Jack Nicklaus did. I didn’t really appreciate golf or the Masters. We definitely had a Little League game that weekend, I do remember that, and the adults were talking about it.

    I was 12 in 1986. Now I’m three years older than Nicklaus was when he won for the final time. In hindsight, it does sound like it was really awesome. Very much like Tiger Woods winning the Masters in 2019 when he was 43. Same kind of enduring popularity with the mainstream sports fans… although, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, for the first part of his career he was the bad guy to Arnold Palmer’s hero of the masses.

    • Agree: lamont cranston
    • Replies: @hhsiii
    @JR Ewing

    I was 21 and watched it in the men’s locker room at Montclair Golf Club with a bunch of older men playing poker or bridge, half of them in robes or towels, ordering drinks and sandwiches from black men in white jackets. We were members but I’d also caddied there. I remember it well.

  7. Off topic (but how much can you say about a 1986 Masters Tournament?):

    https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2023/03/27/texas-observer-legendary-crusading-liberal-magazine-is-closing-and-laying-off-its-staff/

    Longtime Left/Liberal Democrat magazine Texas Observer suddenly shuts its doors. Despite a >$ 2 million annual budget and 19 paid staffers.

    Back in the ancient times, it was one of the few hard core liberal magazines in Texas. Now obsolete.

    Molly Ivins and Gov Anne Richards were their sainted females, Texas’s own Hillary Clintons.

    From this article, it seems the disease of Wokeism killed off “liberalism” and the funders weren’t on board. Even hiring an Injun as editor didn’t help. White liberal funders being racists and all.

    So, another foot in the grave of what used to be liberal dominance of the intelligentsia. At least the mostly obsolete monthly print versions. Is the New Republic still being produced?

    Unhappy mostly woke former staffers are losing jobs. Comrades killed off the liberals who supported this thing. Now drifting off to tiny Internet outlets or better funded “non profits’ who all parrot the Woke Party line.

    Those readers here in Texas, and formerly (like iSteve) will hoist a glass and say fairwell.

    “It’s a good thing!”

    (Now back to our historical golf observations…)

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @Muggles

    Democrat "liberals" today are NPCs, and ChatGPT can churn out NPC mush at no cost, so why pay biological NPCs?

  8. • Replies: @Known Fact
    @JohnnyWalker123

    US politicians and corporate news lie about everything. That's why the wickedly satirical George Santos Show has them so freaked out

  9. Steve assumes we know the Masters starts in eight days, but some of us had to look it up. Otherwise, this post came out of the blue.

    Golfing on Easter weekend? Is nothing sacred anymore? The date of Easter is known centuries in advance (the next time it falls on March 22 will be 2285), so it’s not like they didn’t see it coming.

    I chose this tie to wear today because it was the only one that didn’t clash with a blue plaid flannel shirt:


    Good timing. Coincidences are fun.

    • Replies: @Barnard
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Masters is traditionally held the second week in April regardless of whether or not it falls on Easter Sunday. This still happened when the country included a much higher percentage of observant Christians than it does now. For many people today, it is probably no difference than watching football on Thanksgiving.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @ScarletNumber
    @Reg Cæsar


    Golfing on Easter weekend? Is nothing sacred anymore? The date of Easter is known centuries in advance (the next time it falls on March 22 will be 2285), so it’s not like they didn’t see it coming.
     
    The Masters always has its final day scheduled for the 2nd Sunday in April. If not for COVID, the 2020 final day would have been on Easter. As it stands, the last Masters to conclude on Easter was 2012, when Bubba Watson defeated Louis Oosthuizen on the second playoff hole to win his first Masters.

    Now, could Augusta move the Masters up a week so it doesn't impede on Easter? It could, but then you are running into MLB opening day and the NCAA Final Four, with the latter normally being a CBS production.
    , @TontoBubbaGoldstein
    @Reg Cæsar

    Easter moves around dependent on the first full moon after the vernal equinox.
    The Masters is always scheduled to end on the second Sunday in April.

    Take your heretical views elsewhere, Chief!

    ; )

    , @JR Ewing
    @Reg Cæsar

    They've played the Masters plenty of times on Easter weekend. This ain't new.

    , @Ganderson
    @Reg Cæsar

    The NCAA’s Frozen Four (D I Men’s hockey championships) is also Easter Weekend. Reg, I’m sure you’ll be tuning in and rooting for the Golden Gophers…

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  10. Robert Novak and me, 1986:

    [MORE]

    • LOL: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Stan Adams

    Stan, you were looking pretty good back then.

    I guess we all looked pretty cute at that age.

    Now? ...

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    , @Pixo
    @Stan Adams

    The glorious lamp of heaven, the sun,
    The higher he’s a-getting,
    The sooner will his race be run,
    And nearer he’s to setting.

    That age is best which is the first,
    When youth and blood are warmer;
    But being spent, the worse, and worst
    Times still succeed the former.

    Then be not coy, but use your time,
    And while ye may, go marry;
    For having lost but once your prime,
    You may forever tarry.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @AnotherDad
    @Stan Adams

    Looking good Stan!

  11. Anonymous[424] • Disclaimer says:
    @Thomm
    At least the mass-shooter in TN was a person of XX chromosomes, even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.

    If the shooter had XY chromosomes, dozens would have died, rather than just six people, three of whom were 9 y/o children, and only one was an adult man.

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tiny Duck, @AKAHorace, @J.Ross, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    > even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.
    are you sure that’s true?

  12. @Anonymous
    It’s like today scientists just achieved Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings cold fusion, and we get golf posts— that figures

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Hypnotoad666, @Haxo Angmark

    This. After a brainwashed tranny targeted white Christisn children, and the Democrats predictably launched their usual lies, the local police chief confirms that the shooter had looked at other schools as targets but was dissuaded by their security arrangements.
    Arm teachers, post security officers, improve doors, keep sleepy diversity hires and flighty cowards off the response team, enforce existing law, don’t make exceptions for minorities, and repeal Smith-Mundt Modernization (make dishonest domestic propaganda operations illegal again), and every school shooting is totally precluded without a shot fired.

  13. Steve,

    I’m hoping for some direction. I want to point my “normie” brother in law to the shortest but most authoritative post/ information about Hispanic HBD. His own son in law is Argentinian and he’s pretty blind to race in general. Until I asked him what his son in law checks on his govt forms (white or not), I don’t think the thought ever crossed his mind that his future grandkids could be considered officially “mixed race.” He also thinks like a lot of boomer National Review types that legal and even illegal immigration is mostly harmless because the Hispanics are “good Christians” hardworking, etc etc.

    Im a huge fan. I’ve been reading your blog for about 5 years now and I love you.

    • Replies: @whereismyhandle
    @Diana Moon Glampers

    argentines that make it to this country are almost certainly white.

    the good news is, you still get the hispanic AA.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @Diana Moon Glampers

    Sorry I don't have a link, but maybe like 5 years ago there was an article in a relatively mainstream magazine about the fact that even after several generations in the US, Hispanic families failed to accumulate wealth or reach parity in educational achiwvement. It really said it all. I would caution you on trying to red pill relatives via family issues. In the grand scheme of things, what your brother in law thinks about immigration isn't important (unless he is a big time political donor), and causing family conflict is not in your best interests.

  14. Back in the 1980s, televisions didn’t immediately turn on.

    What kind of piece of junk TV did you own? Ours was not expensive and it took maybe a second for the picture to appear on the tube in focus. Back then CBS wasn’t able to start their broadcast until the leaders were already through a few holes on the front nine. Unlike the worship of Tiger Woods during his career, they assumed one of the other guys would win and didn’t give Jack heavy coverage until he went on his birdie run on the back nine.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    "What kind of piece of junk TV did you own?"

    I'm guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19".

    Replies: @Renard, @Joe Stalin, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @PiltdownMan, @The Wild Geese Howard

  15. @Thomm
    At least the mass-shooter in TN was a person of XX chromosomes, even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.

    If the shooter had XY chromosomes, dozens would have died, rather than just six people, three of whom were 9 y/o children, and only one was an adult man.

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tiny Duck, @AKAHorace, @J.Ross, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    The alleged perpetrator committed the atrocity because of access to guns and the brutal Christian conservative culture that didn’t accept the non-binary identification of the alleged perpetrator.

    The alleged perpetrator might have pulled the trigger but was not really at fault

    YOU BIGOTS are

    Every time you refuse to use pronouns don’t ban guns elect conservatives stop immigration ban books be racist homophonic exercise white privileged make up lies about crime

    You poke the bear and cause death and destruction

    You killed those children you make me sick

    I don’t know how you sleep at night

    • Troll: Hibernian, Vinnyvette
    • Replies: @Rocko
    @Tiny Duck

    I sleep great at night knowing that I don't have to deal with chimps like George Floyd or black trannies trying to dance for children. You can keep your chimps Duckie.

  16. In the video the announcer mentions Tommy Nakajima waiting to allow Nicklaus to putt. Which calls to my ancient mind one of the cleverest sports headlines ever. In the British Open a few years before this, Nakajima was in a bunker and hit shot after shot after shot that failed to escape the bunker and just rolled back down to his feet. The newspaper headline or photo caption the next day? I will hit “more” and then post the answer below, but The Men of Sailer are clever and everyone will guess it.

    [MORE]

    THE SANDS Of NAKAJIMA

    Btw, a good man. He took it well.

    • LOL: Nicholas Stix
    • Replies: @Dan Smith
    @SafeNow

    What is “The Sands of Nakajima,” Alex?

  17. @Reg Cæsar
    Steve assumes we know the Masters starts in eight days, but some of us had to look it up. Otherwise, this post came out of the blue.

    Golfing on Easter weekend? Is nothing sacred anymore? The date of Easter is known centuries in advance (the next time it falls on March 22 will be 2285), so it's not like they didn't see it coming.

    I chose this tie to wear today because it was the only one that didn't clash with a blue plaid flannel shirt:


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/znkAAOSw5gNfe2CD/s-l1600.jpg

    Good timing. Coincidences are fun.

    Replies: @Barnard, @ScarletNumber, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @JR Ewing, @Ganderson

    The Masters is traditionally held the second week in April regardless of whether or not it falls on Easter Sunday. This still happened when the country included a much higher percentage of observant Christians than it does now. For many people today, it is probably no difference than watching football on Thanksgiving.

    • Agree: ScarletNumber
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Barnard

    What’s “Easter” ?

  18. @Thomm
    At least the mass-shooter in TN was a person of XX chromosomes, even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.

    If the shooter had XY chromosomes, dozens would have died, rather than just six people, three of whom were 9 y/o children, and only one was an adult man.

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tiny Duck, @AKAHorace, @J.Ross, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    Be careful what you wish for.

  19. @Thomm
    At least the mass-shooter in TN was a person of XX chromosomes, even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.

    If the shooter had XY chromosomes, dozens would have died, rather than just six people, three of whom were 9 y/o children, and only one was an adult man.

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tiny Duck, @AKAHorace, @J.Ross, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    Charlie Kirk has a very good de-transitioned activist on right now with two solid points:
    FtMs are women essentially girls experiencing masculine aggression for the first time without any way to contain it, they normally become violent because how else could that end?
    The drugs children are put on for transitioning are consistently horrible, generating violence and suicidal ideation (including in kids who previously did not have these tendencies); the tranny activist propaganda point that, “if you do not go along with all the transition treatments, you will push the kid into suicide” comes in handy here, of course it’s an evil lie.
    The activist’s first name is Chloe; I’m not sure what her last name is because Charlie’s kind of new to radio.
    What we allowed the left to do was to create nightmare vector nests, which simultaneously and through multiple means release evil; our lucyfootball is to then obsess (and, slowly, legislate) over one or two out of a couple dozen branches in the nest.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @J.Ross


    FtMs are women essentially girls experiencing masculine aggression for the first time without any way to contain it, they normally become violent because how else could that end?
     
    It's the exact same effect as black kids growing up in the hood without a father figure to teach them self control and restraint. They've never been taught how to act properly, so they just do what comes naturally to men: violence.

    Civilization learned long ago that young males need to trained and conditioned to control themselves. In fact, some might say that's the very definition of civilization.

    Girls are never taught that way, so they don't know how to control themselves when those unnatural urges come from the hormone treatment.

    Replies: @Vinnyvette, @J.Ross

  20. @Diana Moon Glampers
    Steve,

    I’m hoping for some direction. I want to point my “normie” brother in law to the shortest but most authoritative post/ information about Hispanic HBD. His own son in law is Argentinian and he’s pretty blind to race in general. Until I asked him what his son in law checks on his govt forms (white or not), I don’t think the thought ever crossed his mind that his future grandkids could be considered officially “mixed race.” He also thinks like a lot of boomer National Review types that legal and even illegal immigration is mostly harmless because the Hispanics are “good Christians” hardworking, etc etc.

    Im a huge fan. I’ve been reading your blog for about 5 years now and I love you.

    Replies: @whereismyhandle, @Chrisnonymous

    argentines that make it to this country are almost certainly white.

    the good news is, you still get the hispanic AA.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @whereismyhandle

    A guy at work was an Italian Argentine, like the Pope, and, when he came on board in the early '90s, managed with some difficulty to get the HR department to classify him as Hispanic. He retired a few years ago in a very senior position.

  21. Anonymous[627] • Disclaimer says:
    @Barnard
    @Reg Cæsar

    The Masters is traditionally held the second week in April regardless of whether or not it falls on Easter Sunday. This still happened when the country included a much higher percentage of observant Christians than it does now. For many people today, it is probably no difference than watching football on Thanksgiving.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    What’s “Easter” ?

  22. My Dad worked 80+ hours a week, played golf Saturday morning and watched golf on Sunday. I found watching golf on TV to be tedious beyond belief, until this tournament. Jack seemed unbelievably old to be a professional athlete. To an elementary school kid the course seemed wasted. Such beautiful grass fields, why not play a real sport on them?

    It was riveting. Relatively speaking, of course.

  23. I remember it well. I wasn’t a golfer then, but I sat there with my dad and cheered Jack on.

    It was made evcn sweeter because his son Jackie was his caddy for that Masters.

    I have always loved Jack for his bluntness, his honesty.

    And, as a woman, I liked him because his family really was his first priority, unlike Arnie.

  24. @Thomm
    At least the mass-shooter in TN was a person of XX chromosomes, even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.

    If the shooter had XY chromosomes, dozens would have died, rather than just six people, three of whom were 9 y/o children, and only one was an adult man.

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tiny Duck, @AKAHorace, @J.Ross, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    Two replies to friends’ emails, which I wrote this morning, are apropos here, although off the main topic:

    They got you. You wrote, “Those saying a ‘woman’ shot those kids in Nashville are wrong.”.

    In fact they are right. The shooter was a biological woman with an XX chromosome pair, combined with a perhaps real mental illness that made her believe or want to believe that she was a man, or perhaps she just had a pathological desire to adopt the latest prog insanity.

    Your confusion arises from the following circumstances: Ordinarily the MSM would have utilized the latest fashion of treating this woman’s psychological issues as non-existent. They would have reported her as being a man and would have use masculine pronouns to describe her. However, this crime—committed by a tranny or at least a pseudo-tranny—was so atrocious that the MSM decided to continue their policy of defending tranny insanity by de-emphasizing the tranny basis of the crime, i.e. apparently a tranny resentment of orthodox Christian teaching on the subject.

    This has led to considerable confusion both on the part of normal citizens and bien pensant progs.

    Carefully re-read the stories.

    No MSM outlet will ever report this but this mass shooting incident is further confirmation of Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings:

    Mass shootings involving Negros almost invariably have the following characteristics: (1) Spontaneous exuberance and massive numbers of rounds discharged; (2) Lots of wounded, often unintended victims, and few deaths; (3) Escape of the shooter(s) who clearly intend to survive.

    OTOH, mass shootings involving Whites usually have very dis-similar characteristics: (1) Careful forethought and planning; (2) Precise targeting of victims, most of whom are shot dead; (3) The shooter’s intention, going into the attack, of either dying in a shootout with the police or committing suicide.

    One further comment: In close up, targeted shootings like this one, a pistol in the hands of a decently competent shooter will be more effective than any kind of rifle. The only better weapon might be a shotgun. If this woman had any experience with a pistol, I predict we will eventually learn that she murdered her victims with the pistol she was carrying.

  25. @Stan Adams
    Robert Novak and me, 1986:



    https://i.ibb.co/zHBKmRS/1986-novak.png

    Replies: @Muggles, @Pixo, @AnotherDad

    Stan, you were looking pretty good back then.

    I guess we all looked pretty cute at that age.

    Now? …

    • Replies: @Stan Adams
    @Muggles

    Christmas '85 vs. Easter '23.

    I ran the 2023 pic through Remini, an AI image-enhancement app. The enhanced shot is quite an improvement, I must admit.



    https://i.ibb.co/Yp4PKps/1985-12-24a.png

    https://i.ibb.co/5My8Bqf/ai2.png

  26. @Thomm
    At least the mass-shooter in TN was a person of XX chromosomes, even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.

    If the shooter had XY chromosomes, dozens would have died, rather than just six people, three of whom were 9 y/o children, and only one was an adult man.

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tiny Duck, @AKAHorace, @J.Ross, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men…

    I have yet to see a female mass-shooter, period. Or “full stop”, where you live– where it must be quite, um, exciting, if you have to qualify your statements about mass shooters of whichever sex.

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Reg Cæsar

    Off the top of my head, there was Sylvia Seegrist in 1985 and Brenda Ann Spencer ("I don't like Mondays") in 1979, Spencer killed two adult men, FWIW, plus wounding a bunch of kids. Seegrist killed three people and wounded seven. I forget the gender/age particulars.


    On topic: Looking forward to the Masters. Sooooooooo glad that Eldrick will never usurp the Golden Bear's GOAT status. LOLOLOL. So sorry, Liver Lips.

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuemV28cMiE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DExnUV0SQQU

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  27. In the early 1980s, Jack Nicklaus was a spokesman for my father’s company.

    At that time, I was working at the R&D center near headquarters. (Yes, that was nepotism, but I was a better lab tech than the lazy, former East Coast slobs there, for far less money.)

    One day, we were invited to come to lunch at “The Manor House” on the property. We were shown a new TV commercial, one with Jack talking about how our products were all about quality and attention to detail. It was impressive.

    An exec made the point that this meant a lot, because Mr. Nicklaus didn’t agree to sponsorships easily. Jack didn’t have to. And yes, our company did represent quality, American manufacturing then.

    Of course, I’m sure they paid him a lot of money. They had it then. $$$. Word was they had too much cash and their financial guys were looking for ways to leverage it. Dad said that word, “leverage,” was bandied about at HQ a lot then. As an engineer, he found that language and perspective a bit foreign.

    That was a long time ago, but it was pretty cool to be there at lunch that day, when they premiered their Jack Nicklaus commercial.

    PS: I think part of the reason they went for “The Golden Bear” was because his blond hair image mirrored their golden colored fiberglass insulation — distinguishable from their competitor, Corning and the Pink Panther.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Buzz Mohawk


    PS: I think part of the reason they went for “The Golden Bear” was because his blond hair image mirrored their golden colored fiberglass insulation — distinguishable from their competitor, Corning and the Pink Panther.
     
    https://www.ebluejay.com/img/account/v/i/vintageadsandbooks/1/5665056_r7x2q6fy.jpg

    https://www.ebluejay.com/ads/item/5665056

    Original vintage catalog for JOHNS-MANVILLE. Fiber Glass Building Insulations for residential and commercial. Jack Nicklaus, the Golden bear pictured in his attic. Product and application information, product line description, insulation recommendations, ThermaTite Plus Sheathing, Sound Control Batts, Microlite, Thermal-Acoustical Batts, Guide specifications given. Office located in Denver, CO. This unique old 1982 twelve page architectural specifications catalog would make a marvelous addition to your engineering collection. Pages are loose and contain a small amount of residual glue on edge.
     

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

  28. for boomer Republicans it’s always the 80s.

    for boomer golf fans it’s always…the 80s.

    baseball and golf slowly fading away as the older europeans in America die off.

  29. anon[147] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe as remarkable is that appears to be Jim Nance’s voice from way back when calling the shots. Who did he have pictures of to get such a lofty perch so young, and keep it forever?

    But all snarkiness besides, I have to say Nance is the only one of the three I sort of like of the main CBS NCAA tourney crew. Can we all finally admit the Grant Hill announcer experiment has failed? Seems like a nice guy, and I guess it’s sad his promising NBA career (supposedly next Michael Jordan, if you are to believe the hype) was cut short by injury, but dude is blander than bland.

    Also Nance’s other partner, Romo, has worn out his welcome methinks.

    OK, sports media rant over.

  30. @Anonymous
    It’s like today scientists just achieved Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings cold fusion, and we get golf posts— that figures

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Hypnotoad666, @Haxo Angmark

    Steve is Masters… baiting.

  31. Ahhh, the great old white America. We’ll never see its like on this earth again.

  32. @Stan Adams
    Robert Novak and me, 1986:



    https://i.ibb.co/zHBKmRS/1986-novak.png

    Replies: @Muggles, @Pixo, @AnotherDad

    The glorious lamp of heaven, the sun,
    The higher he’s a-getting,
    The sooner will his race be run,
    And nearer he’s to setting.

    That age is best which is the first,
    When youth and blood are warmer;
    But being spent, the worse, and worst
    Times still succeed the former.

    Then be not coy, but use your time,
    And while ye may, go marry;
    For having lost but once your prime,
    You may forever tarry.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Pixo

    That was Robert Herrick, not Robert Novak.

  33. I’m amazed at how much money the pros make today. As a teenager I caddied at the Western Open in ’64 and ’65 when the top prize was just $11,000. For that money the pros couldn’t have their own caddy traveling to every tournament like many do today, so the top local caddies got to have a very special week. Much better than carrying a bag for some duffer at $4-5 per round.

  34. He’s ba-a-a-ck!

    I was worried about our host’s health, until he explained that he was working on his comp book.

    I don’t give a hang about golf. I’ve never played it, beyond miniature golf about 100 years ago. But for some perverse reason, Steve loves it. And when a great writer gets his teeth into a subject he loves, life becomes momentarily joyous for him and his devoted readers. Hopefully, his joy at writing about the Golden Bear will suffuse his work on other topics.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Nicholas Stix

    Golf is what I call an "honest" activity. Like shooting, martial arts and weightlifting. I imagine that's one factor in why our genial, principled host likes it. The clubface and the ball cannot be flattered, bribed, cheated, manipulated or fixed--the ball will only and always go exactly where you hit it.

    Same with a firearm. The firearm demands unwavering respect. Obey the Four Rules. Keep it clean and operational. B.R.A.S.S.

    Martial arts, self-evident.

    Weightlifting: the steel is ruthlessly honest. No faking, no flourishes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @BB753

  35. Hmm, one thing to play golf at 40 something, quite another to throw a 100 mph fastball in the MLB at 40+ (Nolan Ryan), win a Super Bowl in the NFL at 43 (Brady), or retire for 10 years and then recapture the heavyweight title at 45 years of age, the hardest feat of all. Warren Spahn winning 23 games at 42 is yet another amazing effort especially back then when 42 was ancient for an athlete.

  36. @Diana Moon Glampers
    Steve,

    I’m hoping for some direction. I want to point my “normie” brother in law to the shortest but most authoritative post/ information about Hispanic HBD. His own son in law is Argentinian and he’s pretty blind to race in general. Until I asked him what his son in law checks on his govt forms (white or not), I don’t think the thought ever crossed his mind that his future grandkids could be considered officially “mixed race.” He also thinks like a lot of boomer National Review types that legal and even illegal immigration is mostly harmless because the Hispanics are “good Christians” hardworking, etc etc.

    Im a huge fan. I’ve been reading your blog for about 5 years now and I love you.

    Replies: @whereismyhandle, @Chrisnonymous

    Sorry I don’t have a link, but maybe like 5 years ago there was an article in a relatively mainstream magazine about the fact that even after several generations in the US, Hispanic families failed to accumulate wealth or reach parity in educational achiwvement. It really said it all. I would caution you on trying to red pill relatives via family issues. In the grand scheme of things, what your brother in law thinks about immigration isn’t important (unless he is a big time political donor), and causing family conflict is not in your best interests.

  37. @Reg Cæsar
    @Thomm


    I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men...
     
    I have yet to see a female mass-shooter, period. Or "full stop", where you live-- where it must be quite, um, exciting, if you have to qualify your statements about mass shooters of whichever sex.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Joe Stalin

    Off the top of my head, there was Sylvia Seegrist in 1985 and Brenda Ann Spencer (“I don’t like Mondays”) in 1979, Spencer killed two adult men, FWIW, plus wounding a bunch of kids. Seegrist killed three people and wounded seven. I forget the gender/age particulars.

    On topic: Looking forward to the Masters. Sooooooooo glad that Eldrick will never usurp the Golden Bear’s GOAT status. LOLOLOL. So sorry, Liver Lips.

  38. @Pixo
    @Stan Adams

    The glorious lamp of heaven, the sun,
    The higher he’s a-getting,
    The sooner will his race be run,
    And nearer he’s to setting.

    That age is best which is the first,
    When youth and blood are warmer;
    But being spent, the worse, and worst
    Times still succeed the former.

    Then be not coy, but use your time,
    And while ye may, go marry;
    For having lost but once your prime,
    You may forever tarry.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    That was Robert Herrick, not Robert Novak.

    • Thanks: Pixo
  39. @Stan Adams
    Robert Novak and me, 1986:



    https://i.ibb.co/zHBKmRS/1986-novak.png

    Replies: @Muggles, @Pixo, @AnotherDad

    Looking good Stan!

  40. @Nicholas Stix
    He's ba-a-a-ck!

    I was worried about our host's health, until he explained that he was working on his comp book.

    I don't give a hang about golf. I've never played it, beyond miniature golf about 100 years ago. But for some perverse reason, Steve loves it. And when a great writer gets his teeth into a subject he loves, life becomes momentarily joyous for him and his devoted readers. Hopefully, his joy at writing about the Golden Bear will suffuse his work on other topics.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Golf is what I call an “honest” activity. Like shooting, martial arts and weightlifting. I imagine that’s one factor in why our genial, principled host likes it. The clubface and the ball cannot be flattered, bribed, cheated, manipulated or fixed–the ball will only and always go exactly where you hit it.

    Same with a firearm. The firearm demands unwavering respect. Obey the Four Rules. Keep it clean and operational. B.R.A.S.S.

    Martial arts, self-evident.

    Weightlifting: the steel is ruthlessly honest. No faking, no flourishes.

    • Replies: @JR Ewing
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    You could probably include track and field under weightlifting on your list, but it's the same way.

    My son is a sophomore in high school and took a spot away on the varsity track team from a senior this spring because he was just better. The senior was pretty upset about it and my son said he felt kind of bad about it.

    I told him to get over it because track (and swimming and golf and wrestling) are the sports where "either you is or you ain't". There's no hiding behind intangibles and there are no "good teammates" on the track.

    And you had better do well when you're an upperclassman, because there's no guarantee that some hotshot underclassman won't come take away your own spot someday.

    Either you are the fastest (or the highest or the furthest) or you aren't.

    , @BB753
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    Golf is a demanding sport that older adults insist on playing despite bad backs, knees, etc. Old dudes should stick to swimming.

  41. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:

    OT

    Would this de-obfuscate or further obfuscate data on whites vs blacks? Presumably “non-Hispanic whites” would now be “Hispanic or Latino” (as would Hispanics with more black or native American blood), with no breakdown into European vs. African/Eurasian/mixed? The white portion of the pie graph would shrink, but an unknown number of “Hispanics” would basically be white, but not white enough to voluntarily forego the diversity advantage grab.

    Should Latinos Be Considered a Race?

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/should-latinos-be-considered-a-race

    In January, the Office of Management and Budget posted notice of proposed changes to the federal government’s standards for collecting data on race and ethnicity.

    On the past five censuses, respondents were asked whether they are, or are not, Hispanic or Latino. This is the so-called Hispanic-origin question. The census also asked a separate question about their racial identities, and respondents were able to choose “American Indian or Alaska Native,” “Asian,” “Black or African American,” “Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander,” “White,” or “Some Other Race.”

    Under the new proposal, they would be asked a combined question: “What is your race or ethnicity?” Potential answers would now include “Hispanic or Latino” and “Middle Eastern or North African.” Census-takers could check as many boxes as they’d like, and provide as much additional information as they’d wish, such as whether they’re Navajo, Samoan, Ghanaian, Moroccan, Scottish, and also report multiple Hispanic groups such as Mexican and Puerto Rican, or Colombian and Guatemalan.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Anon

    One could argue for the no ethnic data position. It's just citizen, non-citizen.

    But I'm on board with more data--"knowledge is good".

    That said, I think they're approach is trying to mush things.

    In the New World race and ethnicity are not quite the same. It makes sense to ask the "race" question and provide all the big continental scale races, including things like South Asians and Polynesians and then include Mestizo and Mulatto as their are significant numbers of people in those categories.

    Then move on to ethnicity which can include broader cross-national groupings like Jewish (and the three flavors thereof) or Arab or Kurdish as well as all the national origins--English, Scots Irish, Irish, German, Scottish, Dutch ... Chinese, Filipino, Mexican, Indian, Cuban ... as well as various Native tribes, etc.

    And you can toss in "national origin" if that's separate again.

    Since we are collecting on computers it's trivial to gather quite full spectrum data.

  42. Weightlifting: the steel is ruthlessly honest. No faking, no flourishes.

    Yes, you have to get it all up there.

    But steroids, etc. is faking it. Though in competition they try to stop Better Lifting Through Chemistry.

    I assume that Olympic style wieght lifting tournaments with careful blood testing are honest.

    As to golf, there are many rules about what you can/can’t do to the clubs, club face, balls, etc .

    Diving and gymnastics are also honest it that respect, though everyone gets blood tested. Also some rules on what your suits can/can’t be.

    The human body is the last bastion of true cheaters.

    Now of course, thanks to Woke ideology, males can pretend to be females and hence dominate Womens sports. This is approved by most “official sports federations” though there is growing pushback. (Who will be the first “trans female” golfer to win a major woman’s tournament?)

    Why MtF trans isn’t always considered blood doping is a real mystery. Male bone structure and even hormone levels can’t be totally eliminated. Anthropologists and coroners can tell sex by only looking at bones.

    Once the Comrades convince you that elephants can fly, and you denounce anyone who disagrees, they they have truly won. We are at the edge of that…

  43. @Thomm
    At least the mass-shooter in TN was a person of XX chromosomes, even though most transgenders are XY chromosomes.

    If the shooter had XY chromosomes, dozens would have died, rather than just six people, three of whom were 9 y/o children, and only one was an adult man.

    Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Tiny Duck, @AKAHorace, @J.Ross, @Jus' Sayin'..., @Reg Cæsar, @Colin Wright

    ‘…Mass shootings by women tend to have low body counts, and few of the dead are adult men. I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men in a mass shooting.’

    Maybe they discover they don’t actually like it. Men, on the other hand…

  44. @Reg Cæsar
    Steve assumes we know the Masters starts in eight days, but some of us had to look it up. Otherwise, this post came out of the blue.

    Golfing on Easter weekend? Is nothing sacred anymore? The date of Easter is known centuries in advance (the next time it falls on March 22 will be 2285), so it's not like they didn't see it coming.

    I chose this tie to wear today because it was the only one that didn't clash with a blue plaid flannel shirt:


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/znkAAOSw5gNfe2CD/s-l1600.jpg

    Good timing. Coincidences are fun.

    Replies: @Barnard, @ScarletNumber, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @JR Ewing, @Ganderson

    Golfing on Easter weekend? Is nothing sacred anymore? The date of Easter is known centuries in advance (the next time it falls on March 22 will be 2285), so it’s not like they didn’t see it coming.

    The Masters always has its final day scheduled for the 2nd Sunday in April. If not for COVID, the 2020 final day would have been on Easter. As it stands, the last Masters to conclude on Easter was 2012, when Bubba Watson defeated Louis Oosthuizen on the second playoff hole to win his first Masters.

    Now, could Augusta move the Masters up a week so it doesn’t impede on Easter? It could, but then you are running into MLB opening day and the NCAA Final Four, with the latter normally being a CBS production.

  45. OT: steve, in case you’re wondering if any outspoken trannies are taking the sailer line on tranny-killings, well, that’s what the red scare podcast sphere is for!

  46. Then a blond man walked to the tee of the 16th hole at Augusta National… asked by Jim Nantz

    Quite a crew the CBS used for golf back then

    • 14: Gary McCord
    • 15: Ben Wright
    • 16: Jim Nantz
    • 17: Verne Lundquist
    • 18: Pat Summerall

    It shouldn’t surprise anyone that from 75-82 the honor of calling 18 went to Vin Scully. Scully’s first was Nicklaus’ last victory until 86.

  47. Golf looks pretty much the same.

    But America is a wildly different place.

    • Agree: LondonBob
    • Replies: @bigdicknick
    @AnotherDad

    a lot of hobbies/ activities look like 1950 demographically.

  48. Steve-o, the frontlash is playing out exactly as you would have predicted in Nashville:

    https://radaronline.com/p/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale-parents-couldnt-accept-she-was-transgender/

    Alphabet-soup-identity is so garbled its proponents can’t even talk about it coherently.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    I am seeing a very encouraging consensus forming: considering how easy it would be to harden schools (it'd cost money, but I thought these people liked to spend money on schools), Democrats must be against hardening schools.
    Democrats want kids to die so they can convert dead kids to political capital. Security is a solved problem (except for cutting edge terrorists [with singular plans like weaponizing airliners], which were rare before we focused on them, and rarer now).
    You limit access, you post guards, you monitor.
    Schools already have no expectation of privacy (cf searches for drugs, etc).
    There are no mass shootings at Bilderberg: the mass shootings happen at gun-free zones where the school resource officer was absent or never posted.
    Compare Nancy Pelosi rejecting numerous credible authorities telling her to increase capitol security for January 6th. A thing they allowed to happen is really still a false flag, it's just a false flag with an alibi.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Vinnyvette

  49. @Reg Cæsar
    Steve assumes we know the Masters starts in eight days, but some of us had to look it up. Otherwise, this post came out of the blue.

    Golfing on Easter weekend? Is nothing sacred anymore? The date of Easter is known centuries in advance (the next time it falls on March 22 will be 2285), so it's not like they didn't see it coming.

    I chose this tie to wear today because it was the only one that didn't clash with a blue plaid flannel shirt:


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/znkAAOSw5gNfe2CD/s-l1600.jpg

    Good timing. Coincidences are fun.

    Replies: @Barnard, @ScarletNumber, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @JR Ewing, @Ganderson

    Easter moves around dependent on the first full moon after the vernal equinox.
    The Masters is always scheduled to end on the second Sunday in April.

    Take your heretical views elsewhere, Chief!

    ; )

  50. OT — Planetary alignment, happening in Eastern time zone, about now (give or take another hour). Presently only moon and (I think) Jupiter visible. Apart from Uranus (which will be present but not naked-eye visible) there will be several more planets.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @J.Ross


    OT — Planetary alignment, happening in Eastern time zone, about now (give or take another hour). Presently only moon and (I think) Jupiter visible. Apart from Uranus (which will be present but not naked-eye visible) there will be several more planets.
     
    Not really aligned but "visible" i guess.

    The bright one you are seeing is Venus. Venus and Jupiter were almost in conjunction in the evening sky, a month ago--within a 1/2 degree; moon's width, a small finger at arm's length. But Jupiter has almost sunk into the Sun--visible only right after sunset. While Venus--super bright--is swinging along it's "apparent retrograde" path, getting higher each day. (If we are 6'oclock and the sun at the center, Venus is at around 10, and headed our way. Ergo its disk pretty full--well lighted and quite bright.)

    Mars has been pretty quasi-overhead (westish) in the evening this spring. If you arc up from Betelgeuse--the bright red star at the top of Orion--toward the North Star, Mars is about halfway to Capella which is the bright star sort of "on top" half way between Orion and Polaris.

    Saturn isn't around anywhere. I assume it's in the morning now, and i'm not a crack of dawn guy.

    If Uranus is up there in the evening--great. I'll have to look that up, but thanks. You'll definitely need at least binoculars to see it, if not a telescope.

    I do like the evening night sky this time of year. A lot of "big boys" are out to play. Sirius, Orion--to me the most interesting constellation--with Betelgeuse and Rigel, Capella, Aldebaran (Tarus), Castor and Pollux (Gemini) And we have Venus--very bright--and Mars and we did have Jupiter, though now just barely. And Arcturus and Spica come up in the East--though i'm usually not looking out that way until final house check late at night.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  51. Anonymous[402] • Disclaimer says:

    OFF TOPIC:

    MNPD Officers Rex Engelbert, a 4-year veteran, and Michael Collazo, a 9-year veteran, were part of a team of first responders to the Covenant campus Mon morning. They fired on the active shooter, who was killed. This is their body camera footage. https://t.co/17qsZM6bNp pic.twitter.com/g4b0nMTFRD— Metro Nashville PD (@MNPDNashville) March 28, 2023

    Nashville PD needs to up its diversity game, no?

    • Replies: @AceDeuce
    @Anonymous


    Nashville PD needs to up its diversity game, no?
     
    LOL.

    Those enchilada and cerveza-stuffed gordos in Uvalde didn't do their profession much credit.
  52. Anonymous[354] • Disclaimer says:

    OFF TOPIC: More iSteve Anthology suggestions:

    1.
    Levitt hasn’t gotten around to admitting yet in his NYT column that his most popular theory — that legalizing abortion lowered crime — was based on two technical errors he made in his calculations.

    By Steve Sailer on 1/10/2006

    2.
    […] although the American news media went nuts over the purported sighting of a one-man Ku Klux Klan rally at Oberlin, America’s most racially hypersensitive college, only two newspapers in the world bothered calling the local cops to see whether the KKK appearance had actually happened. 

    3/05/2013

    3.
    There are practically no SWPLs in the United States who are into narcocorridas [fashions] not even ironically. When some rapper gets shot, everybody at Brown U. swoons from the exciting tragedy of it all, but nobody cares about the Mexican equivalent.

    12/28/2012

    4.
    [Trayvon / Zimmerman case]. Seriously, note the bizarre inversion of sense, where evidence of “profiling” is the worst sin imaginable, whereas evidence of racial animus is ignored. The term “cracker” is evidence of racial animus on the part of Martin, not of profiling. But in our anti-empirical age, the worst sin is Noticing Things.

    7/08/2013 (this was written pre-verdict)

    5.
    Why am I doing this? Mostly because it’s ridiculously easy to come up with relevant posts on the Presidential race by looking up what Sen. Obama had to say about his own life and transcribing it … but virtually nobody else is doing it.

    3/20/2008

  53. @Reg Cæsar
    @Thomm


    I have yet to see a female mass-shooter manage to kill more than two adult men...
     
    I have yet to see a female mass-shooter, period. Or "full stop", where you live-- where it must be quite, um, exciting, if you have to qualify your statements about mass shooters of whichever sex.

    Replies: @AceDeuce, @Joe Stalin

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Joe Stalin

    Thomm said "see", not "see on TV". Big difference. He wasn't there.

    And how quickly did the telly turn on in his country in 1979 anyway?

  54. Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    Whatever appeal is being made to authenticity, to compare it to martial arts, with real risks attached to competition, where you’re engaged with a live resisting opponent appears perplexing. And politics and unpopular decisions do appear in combat sports. The history of boxing is hardly devoid of controversial outcomes.

    To me, to even call golfers athletes is seems contentious in the context of the sports generally.

    What are these ‘fake’ activities in relation to golf anyway ?

    But steroids, etc. is faking it. Though in competition they try to stop Better Lifting Through Chemistry.

    I assume that Olympic style wieght lifting tournaments with careful blood testing are honest.

    Powerlifting is overwhelmingly not drug tested from what I remember. And if some orgs do, no one goes to those events, because no one is interested in seeing what people can lift naturally. And people frequently use anyway in drug tested comps because the tests are quite poor.

    Olympic lifting (at the Olympics) is drug tested, although there has been an arms race between the testers and users at the Olympics and I suspect some do manage to use some substances still and not get found out.

    I don’t know if that would make it fake if it happens exactly but yes it could be seen as enhanced, it may not be strictly natural and could confer an advantage.

    • Replies: @Pixo
    @Vagrant Rightist

    “ with real risks attached to competition”

    Why would I want “real risks” when I could have a lovely time golfing?

    Car accidents, cancer, the stock market etc are plenty of risk for me.

    Replies: @Vagrant Rightist

    , @whereismyhandle
    @Vagrant Rightist

    Some?


    NOBODY is competitive in olympic lifting without massive doping. America is at a slight disadvantage here because our Olympic doping program is sort of a free market system of the athlete being on his own with that part--USADA is *not* trying to help our cheaters pass. The Olympic Training Centers are *not* putting it in their oatmeal or telling them where to go.

    Bulgaria, Iran, Russia, China, Cuba, et al. have a different approach to their Olympic training and international competition drug tests.


    Shane Hamman held the world record in the back squat when he was a powerlifter. He finished 10th or something at the Olympics. He said of course technique is important in olympic lifting but that gold medalist Hossein Rezazadeh was just stronger than him. He saw how easily Rezazadeh was warming up with 800 lbs. squats, etc.


    I don't know when people are going to get over this. You have to "cheat" to compete so nobody in these sports considers it cheating. Anything with raw power at a premium means there is no "clean" alternative. The most naturally talented sprinter or lifter or thrower in the world would be garbage, clean, compared to dozens of people with less talent who are juicing.


    Just like everyone in the sport knew Lance Armstrong was "cheating" and he still doesn't consider it cheating because everyone knew what was needed to compete.


    In some sports it's just a requirement (the more raw strength/speed/size/power/endurance required--all things we know how to juice--the more you know it's 100% doped). You're either in or you're out when it comes to playing to win.


    Are there clean athletes in the Olympics? Sure. I'm personally close to two. One is a male skier and the other is a woman in a sport nobody (especially in this country) cares about. Think fencing or whatever. Nobody on her team was juicing. I don't know enough about skiing to know how prevalent it is there. My friend who didn't juice was a moguls skier (which I'd suspect would be least likely--he said his training was "asking Bode if he wanted to ski some fresh powder" while laughing because people like Bode had to train more specifically).

    At the OTC, the coaches don't talk about juicing. There's shorthand for all of this stuff in whatever sport you're in. The weightlifting coaches can tell you what you need to work on and built-in is the question of whether your supplements are dialed-in and optimized. Sprinters talk about someone with a new "coach" or "trainer" or "nutritionist" getting better results. That's just the way it is.

    You want to wrestle Alexander Karelin clean? Go ahead and try, I guess.

    https://www.iwmbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/aleksandr-karelin-most-dangerous-wrestler-in-the-olympic-know-more-920x518.jpeg

    I'm kiding. Nobody did try to wrestle him clean.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Vagrant Rightist

    , @Meretricious
    @Vagrant Rightist


    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.
     
    Vagrant, as someone who has never played golf but loves watching it, I have to object to your stereotype. Of course there are ppl who loathe golf but play it for business, or, eg, to impress a prospective father-in-law. Bat my guess is most ppl who only watch golf like me don't care about the status aspect--because there is no status from watching golf per se. I simply enjoy the competition, the beautiful fairways, the expertise--ultimately, the way gentlemen play the game. It is certainly not boring if you visualize golf as a game of strategy.
    , @Curmudgeon
    @Vagrant Rightist


    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.
     
    I take it that you have never played to any real extent. Nothing is the same from one minute to the next, and understanding what those changes are require attention to detail. As for "middle class status" that may be the case in the US, but in many countries, it is a social outing that has nothing to do with status. As someone who has played golf in Scotland at a time when the overwhelming majority of courses were public, and the private courses were obscenely expensive to join, you played with a cross section of society out to enjoy the day.
    , @AceDeuce
    @Vagrant Rightist


    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.
     
    You know why Whites like to play golf?

    It's their only chance to dress up like negroes...
  55. The most epic Masters was 1996, and rather than a great success, it was remarkable and spectacular failure. That is not any insult to Greg Norman, simply a fact. Watching it live was as compelling an event as I can recall. Nick Faldo took his green jacket with restrained sympathy rather than unadulterated joy https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/15091501/how-sports-science-explains-greg-norman-1996-masters-meltdown

    • Replies: @mmack
    @Bugg

    I dunno, Jean van de Velde at the 1999 Open Championship was an epic meltdown.

    https://youtu.be/1dR1pkCGY80

  56. @AnotherDad
    Golf looks pretty much the same.

    But America is a wildly different place.

    Replies: @bigdicknick

    a lot of hobbies/ activities look like 1950 demographically.

  57. @Buzz Mohawk
    In the early 1980s, Jack Nicklaus was a spokesman for my father's company.

    At that time, I was working at the R&D center near headquarters. (Yes, that was nepotism, but I was a better lab tech than the lazy, former East Coast slobs there, for far less money.)

    One day, we were invited to come to lunch at "The Manor House" on the property. We were shown a new TV commercial, one with Jack talking about how our products were all about quality and attention to detail. It was impressive.

    An exec made the point that this meant a lot, because Mr. Nicklaus didn't agree to sponsorships easily. Jack didn't have to. And yes, our company did represent quality, American manufacturing then.

    Of course, I'm sure they paid him a lot of money. They had it then. $$$. Word was they had too much cash and their financial guys were looking for ways to leverage it. Dad said that word, "leverage," was bandied about at HQ a lot then. As an engineer, he found that language and perspective a bit foreign.

    That was a long time ago, but it was pretty cool to be there at lunch that day, when they premiered their Jack Nicklaus commercial.

    PS: I think part of the reason they went for "The Golden Bear" was because his blond hair image mirrored their golden colored fiberglass insulation -- distinguishable from their competitor, Corning and the Pink Panther.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    PS: I think part of the reason they went for “The Golden Bear” was because his blond hair image mirrored their golden colored fiberglass insulation — distinguishable from their competitor, Corning and the Pink Panther.


    [MORE]

    https://www.ebluejay.com/ads/item/5665056

    Original vintage catalog for JOHNS-MANVILLE. Fiber Glass Building Insulations for residential and commercial. Jack Nicklaus, the Golden bear pictured in his attic. Product and application information, product line description, insulation recommendations, ThermaTite Plus Sheathing, Sound Control Batts, Microlite, Thermal-Acoustical Batts, Guide specifications given. Office located in Denver, CO. This unique old 1982 twelve page architectural specifications catalog would make a marvelous addition to your engineering collection. Pages are loose and contain a small amount of residual glue on edge.

    • Thanks: Buzz Mohawk
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    @MEH 0910

    Manville, New Jersey, was named for the Johns-Manville corporation when the former was founded in 1929. The town is located near the Somerset Patriots and Duke Farms in affluent central New Jersey, but Manville itself is the poor sister as it always floods whenever a hurricane comes through.

  58. @The Anti-Gnostic
    Steve-o, the frontlash is playing out exactly as you would have predicted in Nashville:

    https://radaronline.com/p/nashville-shooter-audrey-hale-parents-couldnt-accept-she-was-transgender/

    Alphabet-soup-identity is so garbled its proponents can't even talk about it coherently.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    I am seeing a very encouraging consensus forming: considering how easy it would be to harden schools (it’d cost money, but I thought these people liked to spend money on schools), Democrats must be against hardening schools.
    Democrats want kids to die so they can convert dead kids to political capital. Security is a solved problem (except for cutting edge terrorists [with singular plans like weaponizing airliners], which were rare before we focused on them, and rarer now).
    You limit access, you post guards, you monitor.
    Schools already have no expectation of privacy (cf searches for drugs, etc).
    There are no mass shootings at Bilderberg: the mass shootings happen at gun-free zones where the school resource officer was absent or never posted.
    Compare Nancy Pelosi rejecting numerous credible authorities telling her to increase capitol security for January 6th. A thing they allowed to happen is really still a false flag, it’s just a false flag with an alibi.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @J.Ross

    That's like telling homeowners welp if you want to avoid home invasions and getting raped and slaughtered in your beds, then you should put up concertina wire and hire an armed security service.

    If even quaint little Christian primary schools are a magnet for sociopaths and have to arm up like county jails then you no longer have a viable society. What are we even paying taxes for? The State can no longer maintain the civil order.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Nicholas Stix

    , @Vinnyvette
    @J.Ross

    “Democrats must be against hardening schools.”

    Democrats want white kids dead!

  59. @Vagrant Rightist
    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    Whatever appeal is being made to authenticity, to compare it to martial arts, with real risks attached to competition, where you're engaged with a live resisting opponent appears perplexing. And politics and unpopular decisions do appear in combat sports. The history of boxing is hardly devoid of controversial outcomes.

    To me, to even call golfers athletes is seems contentious in the context of the sports generally.

    What are these 'fake' activities in relation to golf anyway ?


    But steroids, etc. is faking it. Though in competition they try to stop Better Lifting Through Chemistry.

    I assume that Olympic style wieght lifting tournaments with careful blood testing are honest.
     

    Powerlifting is overwhelmingly not drug tested from what I remember. And if some orgs do, no one goes to those events, because no one is interested in seeing what people can lift naturally. And people frequently use anyway in drug tested comps because the tests are quite poor.

    Olympic lifting (at the Olympics) is drug tested, although there has been an arms race between the testers and users at the Olympics and I suspect some do manage to use some substances still and not get found out.

    I don't know if that would make it fake if it happens exactly but yes it could be seen as enhanced, it may not be strictly natural and could confer an advantage.

    Replies: @Pixo, @whereismyhandle, @Meretricious, @Curmudgeon, @AceDeuce

    “ with real risks attached to competition”

    Why would I want “real risks” when I could have a lovely time golfing?

    Car accidents, cancer, the stock market etc are plenty of risk for me.

    • Replies: @Vagrant Rightist
    @Pixo

    Well that's their comparison, not mine. You'll have to ask them what they meant.

    If people engage in something they find relaxing and enjoyable then fine

  60. @Reg Cæsar
    Steve assumes we know the Masters starts in eight days, but some of us had to look it up. Otherwise, this post came out of the blue.

    Golfing on Easter weekend? Is nothing sacred anymore? The date of Easter is known centuries in advance (the next time it falls on March 22 will be 2285), so it's not like they didn't see it coming.

    I chose this tie to wear today because it was the only one that didn't clash with a blue plaid flannel shirt:


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/znkAAOSw5gNfe2CD/s-l1600.jpg

    Good timing. Coincidences are fun.

    Replies: @Barnard, @ScarletNumber, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @JR Ewing, @Ganderson

    They’ve played the Masters plenty of times on Easter weekend. This ain’t new.

  61. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Nicholas Stix

    Golf is what I call an "honest" activity. Like shooting, martial arts and weightlifting. I imagine that's one factor in why our genial, principled host likes it. The clubface and the ball cannot be flattered, bribed, cheated, manipulated or fixed--the ball will only and always go exactly where you hit it.

    Same with a firearm. The firearm demands unwavering respect. Obey the Four Rules. Keep it clean and operational. B.R.A.S.S.

    Martial arts, self-evident.

    Weightlifting: the steel is ruthlessly honest. No faking, no flourishes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @BB753

    You could probably include track and field under weightlifting on your list, but it’s the same way.

    My son is a sophomore in high school and took a spot away on the varsity track team from a senior this spring because he was just better. The senior was pretty upset about it and my son said he felt kind of bad about it.

    I told him to get over it because track (and swimming and golf and wrestling) are the sports where “either you is or you ain’t”. There’s no hiding behind intangibles and there are no “good teammates” on the track.

    And you had better do well when you’re an upperclassman, because there’s no guarantee that some hotshot underclassman won’t come take away your own spot someday.

    Either you are the fastest (or the highest or the furthest) or you aren’t.

  62. @J.Ross
    @Thomm

    Charlie Kirk has a very good de-transitioned activist on right now with two solid points:
    FtMs are women essentially girls experiencing masculine aggression for the first time without any way to contain it, they normally become violent because how else could that end?
    The drugs children are put on for transitioning are consistently horrible, generating violence and suicidal ideation (including in kids who previously did not have these tendencies); the tranny activist propaganda point that, "if you do not go along with all the transition treatments, you will push the kid into suicide" comes in handy here, of course it's an evil lie.
    The activist's first name is Chloe; I'm not sure what her last name is because Charlie's kind of new to radio.
    What we allowed the left to do was to create nightmare vector nests, which simultaneously and through multiple means release evil; our lucyfootball is to then obsess (and, slowly, legislate) over one or two out of a couple dozen branches in the nest.

    Replies: @JR Ewing

    FtMs are women essentially girls experiencing masculine aggression for the first time without any way to contain it, they normally become violent because how else could that end?

    It’s the exact same effect as black kids growing up in the hood without a father figure to teach them self control and restraint. They’ve never been taught how to act properly, so they just do what comes naturally to men: violence.

    Civilization learned long ago that young males need to trained and conditioned to control themselves. In fact, some might say that’s the very definition of civilization.

    Girls are never taught that way, so they don’t know how to control themselves when those unnatural urges come from the hormone treatment.

    • Replies: @Vinnyvette
    @JR Ewing

    Girls are never taught that way, so they don’t know how to control themselves when those unnatural urges come from the hormone treatment.

    Girls don’t have daddy in the home to bend his little princess over his knee when it’s required.

    , @J.Ross
    @JR Ewing

    Yes. It's like a revolutionary state experimenting with civilization by removing essential processes and then discovering the hard way that these things were necessary after all.

  63. Steve,

    As I recall, the period of spring 1986 – spring 1987 was dominated by sports stories about “The Revenge of the Old Guys”:

    – Jack Nicklaus winning the 1986 Masters at age 46
    – Bill Shoemaker winning the 1986 Kentucky Derby at age 54
    – Al Unser Sr. winning the 1987 Indianapolis 500 at age 47

    To this day, each man is the oldest winner of each event. Unser’s win was the most improbable since he wasn’t even entered to run the 1987 Indianapolis 500, and only got a car to drive due to another driver’s (Danny Ongais) injury in a practice crash preventing him from qualifying. The car Al drove to victory also wasn’t entered for the race and was on display in a hotel lobby (or a shopping mall, depending on who tells the story) in Reading, PA before being rolled out of the lobby and flown via cargo plane to Indianapolis. And yet, when Mario Andretti and Roberto Guerrero fell short in their attempts to win Al was there to swoop in and take the win.

    Wild stuff for three older dudes in that year span.

    • Thanks: kaganovitch
    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @mmack


    Wild stuff for three older dudes in that year span.
     
    Don't forget Dennis Conner's recovery of the America's Cup in February 1987 after the controversial loss in '83.

    Yet another episode that made the '80s so much fun.
    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    @mmack

    Testosterone levels were 40% higher for American males during the 1980s compared to today. The average 25 year-old man today has lower testosterone levels than the average 60 year-old man in 1990.

  64. @JR Ewing
    All I have are vague memories of all of the adults being excited about something Jack Nicklaus did. I didn't really appreciate golf or the Masters. We definitely had a Little League game that weekend, I do remember that, and the adults were talking about it.

    I was 12 in 1986. Now I'm three years older than Nicklaus was when he won for the final time. In hindsight, it does sound like it was really awesome. Very much like Tiger Woods winning the Masters in 2019 when he was 43. Same kind of enduring popularity with the mainstream sports fans... although, and someone correct me if I'm wrong, for the first part of his career he was the bad guy to Arnold Palmer's hero of the masses.

    Replies: @hhsiii

    I was 21 and watched it in the men’s locker room at Montclair Golf Club with a bunch of older men playing poker or bridge, half of them in robes or towels, ordering drinks and sandwiches from black men in white jackets. We were members but I’d also caddied there. I remember it well.

  65. @Bugg
    The most epic Masters was 1996, and rather than a great success, it was remarkable and spectacular failure. That is not any insult to Greg Norman, simply a fact. Watching it live was as compelling an event as I can recall. Nick Faldo took his green jacket with restrained sympathy rather than unadulterated joy https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/15091501/how-sports-science-explains-greg-norman-1996-masters-meltdown

    Replies: @mmack

    I dunno, Jean van de Velde at the 1999 Open Championship was an epic meltdown.

  66. @Barnard

    Back in the 1980s, televisions didn’t immediately turn on.
     
    What kind of piece of junk TV did you own? Ours was not expensive and it took maybe a second for the picture to appear on the tube in focus. Back then CBS wasn't able to start their broadcast until the leaders were already through a few holes on the front nine. Unlike the worship of Tiger Woods during his career, they assumed one of the other guys would win and didn't give Jack heavy coverage until he went on his birdie run on the back nine.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “What kind of piece of junk TV did you own?”

    I’m guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19″.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @Steve Sailer

    Meanwhile, did I miss it or has no one actually demanded that this tournament be renamed?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    , @Joe Stalin
    @Steve Sailer


    I’m guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19″.
     
    When vacuum tubes were all the rage in the 1960s television sets, someone came up with an "Instant On" feature, which consisted of a diode rectifier that was in parallel with the "ON OFF" switch contacts. The idea was that the filaments of the tubes were all in series and the diode conducted on one-half of the AC power sine wave. This meant that the tube filaments were always operating at half power until one turned the ON switch, whereas the filaments would now get full power.

    Yeah, your TV was now a heater all the time.
    , @Yojimbo/Zatoichi
    @Steve Sailer

    Compared to Sony, our family's early '70's RCA Colortrak XL-100 25" Console DID turn on rather quickly (e.g. within 4 seconds). RCA did produce good color TV sets back in the day for it's time, all things considered.

    , @PiltdownMan
    @Steve Sailer

    I had a 19" Sony Trinitron, too, from the the early 1980s until 1995 and then another until the year 2017.

    The older one did take a while to come on, though it didn't take as much time as TVs in the 1960s and 1970s, which took forever.

    I remember that as a kid, I could hear a really high pitched whine from the TV's 15.625 kilohertz flyback transformer, but once I was an older teenager, I could no longer hear it. I'm still not sure if that was because the TVs got better, or because I lost the ability to hear really high frequencies as I got older, which usually happens.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Steve Sailer


    1983 Sony Trinitron
     
    We had a 25" around this time.

    Sony was the thing back then because they had the sharpest reds, that being the most difficult electron gun to focus due to the longer wavelength of red light.
  67. @Pixo
    @Vagrant Rightist

    “ with real risks attached to competition”

    Why would I want “real risks” when I could have a lovely time golfing?

    Car accidents, cancer, the stock market etc are plenty of risk for me.

    Replies: @Vagrant Rightist

    Well that’s their comparison, not mine. You’ll have to ask them what they meant.

    If people engage in something they find relaxing and enjoyable then fine

  68. Warren Spahn winning 23 games at 42 is yet another amazing effort especially back then when 42 was ancient for an athlete.

    He had a four game cup of coffee at age 21 with the Braves in 1942, then fought in the war and didn’t pitch again until 1946. That saved his arm in the long run.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @njguy73

    "Warren Spahn was a decorated-for-bravery G.I. at the Battle of the Bulge who almost lost toes to frostbite before his career ever began."

  69. @J.Ross
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    I am seeing a very encouraging consensus forming: considering how easy it would be to harden schools (it'd cost money, but I thought these people liked to spend money on schools), Democrats must be against hardening schools.
    Democrats want kids to die so they can convert dead kids to political capital. Security is a solved problem (except for cutting edge terrorists [with singular plans like weaponizing airliners], which were rare before we focused on them, and rarer now).
    You limit access, you post guards, you monitor.
    Schools already have no expectation of privacy (cf searches for drugs, etc).
    There are no mass shootings at Bilderberg: the mass shootings happen at gun-free zones where the school resource officer was absent or never posted.
    Compare Nancy Pelosi rejecting numerous credible authorities telling her to increase capitol security for January 6th. A thing they allowed to happen is really still a false flag, it's just a false flag with an alibi.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Vinnyvette

    That’s like telling homeowners welp if you want to avoid home invasions and getting raped and slaughtered in your beds, then you should put up concertina wire and hire an armed security service.

    If even quaint little Christian primary schools are a magnet for sociopaths and have to arm up like county jails then you no longer have a viable society. What are we even paying taxes for? The State can no longer maintain the civil order.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    You're talking about a separate but important problem (we need to rout this leftist revolutionary spirit with its "persecuted minority," right-to-defend-itself madness, this maximum hostility to all which is normal, this insane fashion of foisting bizarre fetishism on kids). However, consider that you've stumbled back onto diversity vs civilization: consider how houses look in Brazil and South Africa. Meanwhile, my solution would solve the problem I was talking about, and the ghoulish Democrat refusal to consider it gives their game away.

    , @Nicholas Stix
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    “If even quaint little Christian primary schools are a magnet for sociopaths and have to arm up like county jails then you no longer have a viable society. What are we even paying taxes for? The State can no longer maintain the civil order.”

    We haven’t had a viable society in a long time.

    I’ve been re-reading and re-posting my NPI work, The State of White America, which I completed in 2006. As bad as things were back in 2006, the deterioration since then has been incredible. State power has been seized by figures who have destroyed civil order.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2023/01/the-state-of-white-america-introduction.html

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/02/scottsboro-boys-ii-duke-rape-hoax-and.html

  70. @whereismyhandle
    @Diana Moon Glampers

    argentines that make it to this country are almost certainly white.

    the good news is, you still get the hispanic AA.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    A guy at work was an Italian Argentine, like the Pope, and, when he came on board in the early ’90s, managed with some difficulty to get the HR department to classify him as Hispanic. He retired a few years ago in a very senior position.

  71. @Anonymous
    OFF TOPIC:

    MNPD Officers Rex Engelbert, a 4-year veteran, and Michael Collazo, a 9-year veteran, were part of a team of first responders to the Covenant campus Mon morning. They fired on the active shooter, who was killed. This is their body camera footage. https://t.co/17qsZM6bNp pic.twitter.com/g4b0nMTFRD— Metro Nashville PD (@MNPDNashville) March 28, 2023
     
    Nashville PD needs to up its diversity game, no?

    Replies: @AceDeuce

    Nashville PD needs to up its diversity game, no?

    LOL.

    Those enchilada and cerveza-stuffed gordos in Uvalde didn’t do their profession much credit.

  72. Steve should release his compendium in 2 volumes. Volume 2 should just be all his articles on golf course architecture. That’s the one only real Steve Sailer OG fans will buy.

    • Replies: @That Would Be Telling
    @R.G. Camara


    Steve should release his compendium in 2 volumes. Volume 2 should just be all his articles on golf course architecture.
     
    Problem is, there's no limiting principle to your suggestion. Volume three, if not four or more, could cover women's hair. Etc....

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  73. @JR Ewing
    @J.Ross


    FtMs are women essentially girls experiencing masculine aggression for the first time without any way to contain it, they normally become violent because how else could that end?
     
    It's the exact same effect as black kids growing up in the hood without a father figure to teach them self control and restraint. They've never been taught how to act properly, so they just do what comes naturally to men: violence.

    Civilization learned long ago that young males need to trained and conditioned to control themselves. In fact, some might say that's the very definition of civilization.

    Girls are never taught that way, so they don't know how to control themselves when those unnatural urges come from the hormone treatment.

    Replies: @Vinnyvette, @J.Ross

    Girls are never taught that way, so they don’t know how to control themselves when those unnatural urges come from the hormone treatment.

    Girls don’t have daddy in the home to bend his little princess over his knee when it’s required.

  74. @J.Ross
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    I am seeing a very encouraging consensus forming: considering how easy it would be to harden schools (it'd cost money, but I thought these people liked to spend money on schools), Democrats must be against hardening schools.
    Democrats want kids to die so they can convert dead kids to political capital. Security is a solved problem (except for cutting edge terrorists [with singular plans like weaponizing airliners], which were rare before we focused on them, and rarer now).
    You limit access, you post guards, you monitor.
    Schools already have no expectation of privacy (cf searches for drugs, etc).
    There are no mass shootings at Bilderberg: the mass shootings happen at gun-free zones where the school resource officer was absent or never posted.
    Compare Nancy Pelosi rejecting numerous credible authorities telling her to increase capitol security for January 6th. A thing they allowed to happen is really still a false flag, it's just a false flag with an alibi.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Vinnyvette

    “Democrats must be against hardening schools.”

    Democrats want white kids dead!

  75. @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    "What kind of piece of junk TV did you own?"

    I'm guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19".

    Replies: @Renard, @Joe Stalin, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @PiltdownMan, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Meanwhile, did I miss it or has no one actually demanded that this tournament be renamed?

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Renard

    It was established last time it came up that it was named after the masters of the sport a good long time after Emancipation.

    Replies: @Renard

  76. @Vagrant Rightist
    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    Whatever appeal is being made to authenticity, to compare it to martial arts, with real risks attached to competition, where you're engaged with a live resisting opponent appears perplexing. And politics and unpopular decisions do appear in combat sports. The history of boxing is hardly devoid of controversial outcomes.

    To me, to even call golfers athletes is seems contentious in the context of the sports generally.

    What are these 'fake' activities in relation to golf anyway ?


    But steroids, etc. is faking it. Though in competition they try to stop Better Lifting Through Chemistry.

    I assume that Olympic style wieght lifting tournaments with careful blood testing are honest.
     

    Powerlifting is overwhelmingly not drug tested from what I remember. And if some orgs do, no one goes to those events, because no one is interested in seeing what people can lift naturally. And people frequently use anyway in drug tested comps because the tests are quite poor.

    Olympic lifting (at the Olympics) is drug tested, although there has been an arms race between the testers and users at the Olympics and I suspect some do manage to use some substances still and not get found out.

    I don't know if that would make it fake if it happens exactly but yes it could be seen as enhanced, it may not be strictly natural and could confer an advantage.

    Replies: @Pixo, @whereismyhandle, @Meretricious, @Curmudgeon, @AceDeuce

    Some?

    NOBODY is competitive in olympic lifting without massive doping. America is at a slight disadvantage here because our Olympic doping program is sort of a free market system of the athlete being on his own with that part–USADA is *not* trying to help our cheaters pass. The Olympic Training Centers are *not* putting it in their oatmeal or telling them where to go.

    Bulgaria, Iran, Russia, China, Cuba, et al. have a different approach to their Olympic training and international competition drug tests.

    Shane Hamman held the world record in the back squat when he was a powerlifter. He finished 10th or something at the Olympics. He said of course technique is important in olympic lifting but that gold medalist Hossein Rezazadeh was just stronger than him. He saw how easily Rezazadeh was warming up with 800 lbs. squats, etc.

    I don’t know when people are going to get over this. You have to “cheat” to compete so nobody in these sports considers it cheating. Anything with raw power at a premium means there is no “clean” alternative. The most naturally talented sprinter or lifter or thrower in the world would be garbage, clean, compared to dozens of people with less talent who are juicing.

    Just like everyone in the sport knew Lance Armstrong was “cheating” and he still doesn’t consider it cheating because everyone knew what was needed to compete.

    In some sports it’s just a requirement (the more raw strength/speed/size/power/endurance required–all things we know how to juice–the more you know it’s 100% doped). You’re either in or you’re out when it comes to playing to win.

    Are there clean athletes in the Olympics? Sure. I’m personally close to two. One is a male skier and the other is a woman in a sport nobody (especially in this country) cares about. Think fencing or whatever. Nobody on her team was juicing. I don’t know enough about skiing to know how prevalent it is there. My friend who didn’t juice was a moguls skier (which I’d suspect would be least likely–he said his training was “asking Bode if he wanted to ski some fresh powder” while laughing because people like Bode had to train more specifically).

    At the OTC, the coaches don’t talk about juicing. There’s shorthand for all of this stuff in whatever sport you’re in. The weightlifting coaches can tell you what you need to work on and built-in is the question of whether your supplements are dialed-in and optimized. Sprinters talk about someone with a new “coach” or “trainer” or “nutritionist” getting better results. That’s just the way it is.

    You want to wrestle Alexander Karelin clean? Go ahead and try, I guess.

    I’m kiding. Nobody did try to wrestle him clean.

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @whereismyhandle

    What are the bad effects of PED's, short-term or long-term?

    If there aren't any, why don't we work up regimens for old people in addition to athletes performing at high levels? Maintaining muscle mass and energy levels would help out on a lot of other aging issues

    Replies: @whereismyhandle

    , @Vagrant Rightist
    @whereismyhandle

    This sounds rather speculative, like locker room talk to me, but I don't know the ins and outs of what goes on at the Olympics. There is no disagreement use is still happening, the issue is one of degrees.

    There's an easy answer to this: are some Olympic lifts – and there's many weight classes (and m/f) comparable to what someone could potentially lift naturally in those weight classes (m/f) ? My impression, without delving too deep into analyzing this is generally yes. At the highest absolute end, particularly where records are broken, and medals dished out regularly, maybe one should look carefully.

    To say 'nobody' is competitive in Olympic lifting without drugs appears a bit of an overreach, reliant on hearsay rather than available evidence. I could be wrong on this though.

    I don't know anything about Karelin, is he an Olympic wrestler ? I'm not sure what I'm looking at exactly. But if the suggestion is his physique is 'obviously unnatural', I don't necessarily see clear evidence of that.

    Now that said, grappling sports at the high competitive end do use drugs. But the Olympics is rather rigorously drug tested, although it's possible corruption comes into that testing process, as well as athletes' efforts to evade detection.

    But really, all of this proves my point. What the hell has this got to do with golf ?

    Replies: @Vagrant RIghtist

  77. @Vagrant Rightist
    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    Whatever appeal is being made to authenticity, to compare it to martial arts, with real risks attached to competition, where you're engaged with a live resisting opponent appears perplexing. And politics and unpopular decisions do appear in combat sports. The history of boxing is hardly devoid of controversial outcomes.

    To me, to even call golfers athletes is seems contentious in the context of the sports generally.

    What are these 'fake' activities in relation to golf anyway ?


    But steroids, etc. is faking it. Though in competition they try to stop Better Lifting Through Chemistry.

    I assume that Olympic style wieght lifting tournaments with careful blood testing are honest.
     

    Powerlifting is overwhelmingly not drug tested from what I remember. And if some orgs do, no one goes to those events, because no one is interested in seeing what people can lift naturally. And people frequently use anyway in drug tested comps because the tests are quite poor.

    Olympic lifting (at the Olympics) is drug tested, although there has been an arms race between the testers and users at the Olympics and I suspect some do manage to use some substances still and not get found out.

    I don't know if that would make it fake if it happens exactly but yes it could be seen as enhanced, it may not be strictly natural and could confer an advantage.

    Replies: @Pixo, @whereismyhandle, @Meretricious, @Curmudgeon, @AceDeuce

    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    Vagrant, as someone who has never played golf but loves watching it, I have to object to your stereotype. Of course there are ppl who loathe golf but play it for business, or, eg, to impress a prospective father-in-law. Bat my guess is most ppl who only watch golf like me don’t care about the status aspect–because there is no status from watching golf per se. I simply enjoy the competition, the beautiful fairways, the expertise–ultimately, the way gentlemen play the game. It is certainly not boring if you visualize golf as a game of strategy.

  78. @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    "What kind of piece of junk TV did you own?"

    I'm guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19".

    Replies: @Renard, @Joe Stalin, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @PiltdownMan, @The Wild Geese Howard

    I’m guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19″.

    When vacuum tubes were all the rage in the 1960s television sets, someone came up with an “Instant On” feature, which consisted of a diode rectifier that was in parallel with the “ON OFF” switch contacts. The idea was that the filaments of the tubes were all in series and the diode conducted on one-half of the AC power sine wave. This meant that the tube filaments were always operating at half power until one turned the ON switch, whereas the filaments would now get full power.

    Yeah, your TV was now a heater all the time.

  79. @Anonymous
    It’s like today scientists just achieved Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings cold fusion, and we get golf posts— that figures

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Hypnotoad666, @Haxo Angmark

    It’s like today scientists just achieved Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings cold fusion, and we get golf posts— that figures

    Not just a golf post . . . but breaking news from 1986!

    • LOL: Nicholas Stix
  80. Speaking of the Masters….Come on, Steve-O, let’s do a physiognomy check on Navy Seals & Tiger vs Uvalde Whatevers vs Nashville Police Officers

  81. “Back in the 1980s, televisions didn’t immediately turn on.”

    That’s not exactly true. Back in the 80s, the TV you bought in the 70s and still owned didn’t turn on immediately. Sort of like the 30yo Honda Accord you finally got rid of.

  82. @Muggles
    Off topic (but how much can you say about a 1986 Masters Tournament?):

    https://www.ksat.com/news/texas/2023/03/27/texas-observer-legendary-crusading-liberal-magazine-is-closing-and-laying-off-its-staff/

    Longtime Left/Liberal Democrat magazine Texas Observer suddenly shuts its doors. Despite a >$ 2 million annual budget and 19 paid staffers.

    Back in the ancient times, it was one of the few hard core liberal magazines in Texas. Now obsolete.

    Molly Ivins and Gov Anne Richards were their sainted females, Texas's own Hillary Clintons.

    From this article, it seems the disease of Wokeism killed off "liberalism" and the funders weren't on board. Even hiring an Injun as editor didn't help. White liberal funders being racists and all.

    So, another foot in the grave of what used to be liberal dominance of the intelligentsia. At least the mostly obsolete monthly print versions. Is the New Republic still being produced?

    Unhappy mostly woke former staffers are losing jobs. Comrades killed off the liberals who supported this thing. Now drifting off to tiny Internet outlets or better funded "non profits' who all parrot the Woke Party line.

    Those readers here in Texas, and formerly (like iSteve) will hoist a glass and say fairwell.

    "It's a good thing!"

    (Now back to our historical golf observations...)

    Replies: @AndrewR

    Democrat “liberals” today are NPCs, and ChatGPT can churn out NPC mush at no cost, so why pay biological NPCs?

  83. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @J.Ross

    That's like telling homeowners welp if you want to avoid home invasions and getting raped and slaughtered in your beds, then you should put up concertina wire and hire an armed security service.

    If even quaint little Christian primary schools are a magnet for sociopaths and have to arm up like county jails then you no longer have a viable society. What are we even paying taxes for? The State can no longer maintain the civil order.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Nicholas Stix

    You’re talking about a separate but important problem (we need to rout this leftist revolutionary spirit with its “persecuted minority,” right-to-defend-itself madness, this maximum hostility to all which is normal, this insane fashion of foisting bizarre fetishism on kids). However, consider that you’ve stumbled back onto diversity vs civilization: consider how houses look in Brazil and South Africa. Meanwhile, my solution would solve the problem I was talking about, and the ghoulish Democrat refusal to consider it gives their game away.

  84. @JR Ewing
    @J.Ross


    FtMs are women essentially girls experiencing masculine aggression for the first time without any way to contain it, they normally become violent because how else could that end?
     
    It's the exact same effect as black kids growing up in the hood without a father figure to teach them self control and restraint. They've never been taught how to act properly, so they just do what comes naturally to men: violence.

    Civilization learned long ago that young males need to trained and conditioned to control themselves. In fact, some might say that's the very definition of civilization.

    Girls are never taught that way, so they don't know how to control themselves when those unnatural urges come from the hormone treatment.

    Replies: @Vinnyvette, @J.Ross

    Yes. It’s like a revolutionary state experimenting with civilization by removing essential processes and then discovering the hard way that these things were necessary after all.

  85. @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    "What kind of piece of junk TV did you own?"

    I'm guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19".

    Replies: @Renard, @Joe Stalin, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @PiltdownMan, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Compared to Sony, our family’s early ’70’s RCA Colortrak XL-100 25″ Console DID turn on rather quickly (e.g. within 4 seconds). RCA did produce good color TV sets back in the day for it’s time, all things considered.

  86. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Nicholas Stix

    Golf is what I call an "honest" activity. Like shooting, martial arts and weightlifting. I imagine that's one factor in why our genial, principled host likes it. The clubface and the ball cannot be flattered, bribed, cheated, manipulated or fixed--the ball will only and always go exactly where you hit it.

    Same with a firearm. The firearm demands unwavering respect. Obey the Four Rules. Keep it clean and operational. B.R.A.S.S.

    Martial arts, self-evident.

    Weightlifting: the steel is ruthlessly honest. No faking, no flourishes.

    Replies: @JR Ewing, @BB753

    Golf is a demanding sport that older adults insist on playing despite bad backs, knees, etc. Old dudes should stick to swimming.

  87. @njguy73

    Warren Spahn winning 23 games at 42 is yet another amazing effort especially back then when 42 was ancient for an athlete.
     
    He had a four game cup of coffee at age 21 with the Braves in 1942, then fought in the war and didn't pitch again until 1946. That saved his arm in the long run.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    “Warren Spahn was a decorated-for-bravery G.I. at the Battle of the Bulge who almost lost toes to frostbite before his career ever began.”

    • Thanks: AceDeuce
  88. Very much off topic, so please excuse me, but at 15:43and following of this video BAP (Bronze Age Pervert) states to Bill Kristol that you, along with Ann Coulter, predicted Trump winning the 2016 election.

    I know for certain that Ann most certainly did state on the record, much to his derision on the Bill Maher Show, that Trump would win the election. There’s a clip of that interaction with the sheboons in the audience all cackling at the impossible notion but I don’t recall you ever predicting the Trump win.

    Vox Day did, I also recall that.

    If you had have predicted it I would’ve put $1,000 on Trump on Bet365 for sure and certain, such is the esteem with which I hold you!

    I do recall you claiming to have been the High IQ Brainiac who masterminded the win, but did you ever predict it, on the record?

    If you did, well, you’ve been very humble since, me if I were you, I’d be bragging constantly especially as I’d have won a motza on my monster bet!

    Anyway, here’s the assertion:

    I know you hardly ever reply to outright questions so maybe link a cryptic music video in response for me to decipher instead.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Pat Hannagan

    There's a good clip of Ann predicting Trump would win sometime in 2015.

    I very rarely make election predictions and I don't remember making one about 2016.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @J.Ross

  89. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @J.Ross

    That's like telling homeowners welp if you want to avoid home invasions and getting raped and slaughtered in your beds, then you should put up concertina wire and hire an armed security service.

    If even quaint little Christian primary schools are a magnet for sociopaths and have to arm up like county jails then you no longer have a viable society. What are we even paying taxes for? The State can no longer maintain the civil order.

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Nicholas Stix

    “If even quaint little Christian primary schools are a magnet for sociopaths and have to arm up like county jails then you no longer have a viable society. What are we even paying taxes for? The State can no longer maintain the civil order.”

    We haven’t had a viable society in a long time.

    I’ve been re-reading and re-posting my NPI work, The State of White America, which I completed in 2006. As bad as things were back in 2006, the deterioration since then has been incredible. State power has been seized by figures who have destroyed civil order.

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2023/01/the-state-of-white-america-introduction.html

    https://nicholasstixuncensored.blogspot.com/2013/02/scottsboro-boys-ii-duke-rape-hoax-and.html

  90. @Pat Hannagan
    Very much off topic, so please excuse me, but at 15:43and following of this video BAP (Bronze Age Pervert) states to Bill Kristol that you, along with Ann Coulter, predicted Trump winning the 2016 election.

    I know for certain that Ann most certainly did state on the record, much to his derision on the Bill Maher Show, that Trump would win the election. There's a clip of that interaction with the sheboons in the audience all cackling at the impossible notion but I don't recall you ever predicting the Trump win.

    Vox Day did, I also recall that.

    If you had have predicted it I would've put $1,000 on Trump on Bet365 for sure and certain, such is the esteem with which I hold you!

    I do recall you claiming to have been the High IQ Brainiac who masterminded the win, but did you ever predict it, on the record?

    If you did, well, you've been very humble since, me if I were you, I'd be bragging constantly especially as I'd have won a motza on my monster bet!

    Anyway, here's the assertion:

    https://youtu.be/_NaS78ogz3U?t=926

    I know you hardly ever reply to outright questions so maybe link a cryptic music video in response for me to decipher instead.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    There’s a good clip of Ann predicting Trump would win sometime in 2015.

    I very rarely make election predictions and I don’t remember making one about 2016.

    • Replies: @Pat Hannagan
    @Steve Sailer

    Cheers, mate!

    Thought I might be having one of those Mandela Moments I've been reading about, phew!

    Turns out BAP doesn't have a clue, he's not just confused about identity he's confused on the facts.

    Makes you wonder what else he's wrong about?

    Anyway, here's to BAP!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92wCPfqyVbg

    , @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, you did, sort of.
    BLM bloodlibeled to black people that cops were hunting them for sport.
    Some of the blacks believed them and went on cop murdering sprees.
    The ones who didn't hunt cops protested cops.
    In Dallas, cops who had already worked a full shift downed some caffeine and served as guards for a gaggle of whining overgrown children protesting "police brutality."
    A man hiding in a tall parking garage took aim and sniped several of those police officers until a police robot informed him that, dead or alive, he was coming with it.
    Presidential candidate & media reactions:
    Trump: Back the blue!
    Clinton: You know, these people, these blackophobic, speederphobic, domestic abuse rejecting, you know, the whole basket of donut-eating deplorables, they really need to sit through lectures about how black KANGS have suffered, and nobody should be arrested if they do not then feel like being arrested.
    MSM: Yass Queen Slay!
    Steve: Hmm. I guess Trump just won.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  91. @MEH 0910
    @Buzz Mohawk


    PS: I think part of the reason they went for “The Golden Bear” was because his blond hair image mirrored their golden colored fiberglass insulation — distinguishable from their competitor, Corning and the Pink Panther.
     
    https://www.ebluejay.com/img/account/v/i/vintageadsandbooks/1/5665056_r7x2q6fy.jpg

    https://www.ebluejay.com/ads/item/5665056

    Original vintage catalog for JOHNS-MANVILLE. Fiber Glass Building Insulations for residential and commercial. Jack Nicklaus, the Golden bear pictured in his attic. Product and application information, product line description, insulation recommendations, ThermaTite Plus Sheathing, Sound Control Batts, Microlite, Thermal-Acoustical Batts, Guide specifications given. Office located in Denver, CO. This unique old 1982 twelve page architectural specifications catalog would make a marvelous addition to your engineering collection. Pages are loose and contain a small amount of residual glue on edge.
     

    Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Manville, New Jersey, was named for the Johns-Manville corporation when the former was founded in 1929. The town is located near the Somerset Patriots and Duke Farms in affluent central New Jersey, but Manville itself is the poor sister as it always floods whenever a hurricane comes through.

  92. @Renard
    @Steve Sailer

    Meanwhile, did I miss it or has no one actually demanded that this tournament be renamed?

    Replies: @J.Ross

    It was established last time it came up that it was named after the masters of the sport a good long time after Emancipation.

    • Replies: @Renard
    @J.Ross

    Right, but trivia like that never stopped a wokie. We can't even say master bedroom any more. Or master's degree. What are they calling brake cylinders now? What about mastering in the recording process? Etc etc.

    Just saying that the tournament would be one of the easier things to rename. More difficult, but vastly better, would be to exile the people behind all of this lunacy to Woke Island. I nominate Pitcairn, Ellesmere or Tristan da Cunha.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @kaganovitch

  93. @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    "What kind of piece of junk TV did you own?"

    I'm guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19".

    Replies: @Renard, @Joe Stalin, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @PiltdownMan, @The Wild Geese Howard

    I had a 19″ Sony Trinitron, too, from the the early 1980s until 1995 and then another until the year 2017.

    The older one did take a while to come on, though it didn’t take as much time as TVs in the 1960s and 1970s, which took forever.

    I remember that as a kid, I could hear a really high pitched whine from the TV’s 15.625 kilohertz flyback transformer, but once I was an older teenager, I could no longer hear it. I’m still not sure if that was because the TVs got better, or because I lost the ability to hear really high frequencies as I got older, which usually happens.

  94. @Steve Sailer
    @Pat Hannagan

    There's a good clip of Ann predicting Trump would win sometime in 2015.

    I very rarely make election predictions and I don't remember making one about 2016.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @J.Ross

    Cheers, mate!

    Thought I might be having one of those Mandela Moments I’ve been reading about, phew!

    Turns out BAP doesn’t have a clue, he’s not just confused about identity he’s confused on the facts.

    Makes you wonder what else he’s wrong about?

    Anyway, here’s to BAP!

  95. @J.Ross
    @Renard

    It was established last time it came up that it was named after the masters of the sport a good long time after Emancipation.

    Replies: @Renard

    Right, but trivia like that never stopped a wokie. We can’t even say master bedroom any more. Or master’s degree. What are they calling brake cylinders now? What about mastering in the recording process? Etc etc.

    Just saying that the tournament would be one of the easier things to rename. More difficult, but vastly better, would be to exile the people behind all of this lunacy to Woke Island. I nominate Pitcairn, Ellesmere or Tristan da Cunha.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Renard


    What are they calling brake cylinders now?
     
    Artificial intelligence. ChatGPT.


    https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/felixthecat/images/1/1e/Master-cylinder-description-official.png

    , @kaganovitch
    @Renard


    More difficult, but vastly better, would be to exile the people behind all of this lunacy to Woke Island. I nominate Pitcairn, Ellesmere or Tristan da Cunha.
     
    Can't we find someplace with an active volcano?
  96. @SafeNow
    In the video the announcer mentions Tommy Nakajima waiting to allow Nicklaus to putt. Which calls to my ancient mind one of the cleverest sports headlines ever. In the British Open a few years before this, Nakajima was in a bunker and hit shot after shot after shot that failed to escape the bunker and just rolled back down to his feet. The newspaper headline or photo caption the next day? I will hit “more” and then post the answer below, but The Men of Sailer are clever and everyone will guess it.

    THE SANDS Of NAKAJIMA

    Btw, a good man. He took it well.

    Replies: @Dan Smith

    What is “The Sands of Nakajima,” Alex?

  97. @Joe Stalin
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuemV28cMiE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DExnUV0SQQU

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Thomm said “see”, not “see on TV”. Big difference. He wasn’t there.

    And how quickly did the telly turn on in his country in 1979 anyway?

  98. @Renard
    @J.Ross

    Right, but trivia like that never stopped a wokie. We can't even say master bedroom any more. Or master's degree. What are they calling brake cylinders now? What about mastering in the recording process? Etc etc.

    Just saying that the tournament would be one of the easier things to rename. More difficult, but vastly better, would be to exile the people behind all of this lunacy to Woke Island. I nominate Pitcairn, Ellesmere or Tristan da Cunha.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @kaganovitch

    What are they calling brake cylinders now?

    Artificial intelligence. ChatGPT.

  99. I remember watching it my senior year at college. Great final round. Coverage began with the leaders, Ballesteros and Norman, since Jack was four pairings ahead and seemingly not really in it. But then he caught fire with a birdie on the 9th hole, and simply owned the back nine, and chased down Ballesteros and Norman. As we he was closing the gap, great kudos to the CBS team for sensing it and going to Jack live when he was taking his shots/lining up and sinking his putts. I remember thinking I had never heard golf crowds roar so loudly on television. It was amazing.

    • Agree: hhsiii
  100. @Reg Cæsar
    Steve assumes we know the Masters starts in eight days, but some of us had to look it up. Otherwise, this post came out of the blue.

    Golfing on Easter weekend? Is nothing sacred anymore? The date of Easter is known centuries in advance (the next time it falls on March 22 will be 2285), so it's not like they didn't see it coming.

    I chose this tie to wear today because it was the only one that didn't clash with a blue plaid flannel shirt:


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/znkAAOSw5gNfe2CD/s-l1600.jpg

    Good timing. Coincidences are fun.

    Replies: @Barnard, @ScarletNumber, @TontoBubbaGoldstein, @JR Ewing, @Ganderson

    The NCAA’s Frozen Four (D I Men’s hockey championships) is also Easter Weekend. Reg, I’m sure you’ll be tuning in and rooting for the Golden Gophers…

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ganderson


    The NCAA’s Frozen Four (D I Men’s hockey championships) is also Easter Weekend. Reg, I’m sure you’ll be tuning in and rooting for the Golden Gophers…
     
    Nah, I'm partial to the Northeast's tech schools-- RPI, WPI, Clarkson, USCG Academy, Michigan Tech, Queen's (okay, that last one isn't NCAA). They used to be powerhouses in hockey. Are they anywhere today?

    Likewise, college soccer was dominated by Saint Louis U, U of San Francisco (both Jesuit), Hartwick (decidedly not Jesuit; ask Scott Adams '79), and the like in the 1960s and 1970s. The big schools were uninterested then.

    Replies: @Ganderson

  101. @Steve Sailer
    @Pat Hannagan

    There's a good clip of Ann predicting Trump would win sometime in 2015.

    I very rarely make election predictions and I don't remember making one about 2016.

    Replies: @Pat Hannagan, @J.Ross

    Yes, you did, sort of.
    BLM bloodlibeled to black people that cops were hunting them for sport.
    Some of the blacks believed them and went on cop murdering sprees.
    The ones who didn’t hunt cops protested cops.
    In Dallas, cops who had already worked a full shift downed some caffeine and served as guards for a gaggle of whining overgrown children protesting “police brutality.”
    A man hiding in a tall parking garage took aim and sniped several of those police officers until a police robot informed him that, dead or alive, he was coming with it.
    Presidential candidate & media reactions:
    Trump: Back the blue!
    Clinton: You know, these people, these blackophobic, speederphobic, domestic abuse rejecting, you know, the whole basket of donut-eating deplorables, they really need to sit through lectures about how black KANGS have suffered, and nobody should be arrested if they do not then feel like being arrested.
    MSM: Yass Queen Slay!
    Steve: Hmm. I guess Trump just won.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @J.Ross

    Right. When I first heard of the BLM terrorist massacring the Dallas police on July 7, 2016, the thought popped, unbidden, into my head: "So Donald Trump is going to be President."

  102. @Renard
    @J.Ross

    Right, but trivia like that never stopped a wokie. We can't even say master bedroom any more. Or master's degree. What are they calling brake cylinders now? What about mastering in the recording process? Etc etc.

    Just saying that the tournament would be one of the easier things to rename. More difficult, but vastly better, would be to exile the people behind all of this lunacy to Woke Island. I nominate Pitcairn, Ellesmere or Tristan da Cunha.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @kaganovitch

    More difficult, but vastly better, would be to exile the people behind all of this lunacy to Woke Island. I nominate Pitcairn, Ellesmere or Tristan da Cunha.

    Can’t we find someplace with an active volcano?

    • LOL: Renard
  103. @whereismyhandle
    @Vagrant Rightist

    Some?


    NOBODY is competitive in olympic lifting without massive doping. America is at a slight disadvantage here because our Olympic doping program is sort of a free market system of the athlete being on his own with that part--USADA is *not* trying to help our cheaters pass. The Olympic Training Centers are *not* putting it in their oatmeal or telling them where to go.

    Bulgaria, Iran, Russia, China, Cuba, et al. have a different approach to their Olympic training and international competition drug tests.


    Shane Hamman held the world record in the back squat when he was a powerlifter. He finished 10th or something at the Olympics. He said of course technique is important in olympic lifting but that gold medalist Hossein Rezazadeh was just stronger than him. He saw how easily Rezazadeh was warming up with 800 lbs. squats, etc.


    I don't know when people are going to get over this. You have to "cheat" to compete so nobody in these sports considers it cheating. Anything with raw power at a premium means there is no "clean" alternative. The most naturally talented sprinter or lifter or thrower in the world would be garbage, clean, compared to dozens of people with less talent who are juicing.


    Just like everyone in the sport knew Lance Armstrong was "cheating" and he still doesn't consider it cheating because everyone knew what was needed to compete.


    In some sports it's just a requirement (the more raw strength/speed/size/power/endurance required--all things we know how to juice--the more you know it's 100% doped). You're either in or you're out when it comes to playing to win.


    Are there clean athletes in the Olympics? Sure. I'm personally close to two. One is a male skier and the other is a woman in a sport nobody (especially in this country) cares about. Think fencing or whatever. Nobody on her team was juicing. I don't know enough about skiing to know how prevalent it is there. My friend who didn't juice was a moguls skier (which I'd suspect would be least likely--he said his training was "asking Bode if he wanted to ski some fresh powder" while laughing because people like Bode had to train more specifically).

    At the OTC, the coaches don't talk about juicing. There's shorthand for all of this stuff in whatever sport you're in. The weightlifting coaches can tell you what you need to work on and built-in is the question of whether your supplements are dialed-in and optimized. Sprinters talk about someone with a new "coach" or "trainer" or "nutritionist" getting better results. That's just the way it is.

    You want to wrestle Alexander Karelin clean? Go ahead and try, I guess.

    https://www.iwmbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/aleksandr-karelin-most-dangerous-wrestler-in-the-olympic-know-more-920x518.jpeg

    I'm kiding. Nobody did try to wrestle him clean.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Vagrant Rightist

    What are the bad effects of PED’s, short-term or long-term?

    If there aren’t any, why don’t we work up regimens for old people in addition to athletes performing at high levels? Maintaining muscle mass and energy levels would help out on a lot of other aging issues

    • Replies: @whereismyhandle
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    short-term: some emotional volatility (roid rage is overblown but there's also jokes about guys crying while watching netflix on certain post-cycle drugs) and people not using them correctly can mess up their livers (eg, oral as opposed to injection can be brutal on the liver).

    i'd guess if you have some pre-existing heart condition or who knows what else you could be playing with fire.


    medium to long-term: you're messing up your natural hormone system. proper cycling can mitigate this to some degree. i don't know how much damage is done with "proper" cycling, some guys will tell you they're 100%. it's hard to know because you're not going to get good studies on this--the guys on the frontlines doing this for real are not people signing up for randomized controlled studies. it's all trying to match basic science with received folk wisdom, not really having all the data you'd want.


    Louie Simmons, a hugely important figure in the powerlifting world, died last year at 74. He was very pro-anabolics and he also said he never got off them once he started in 1970. In a case like that, he wouldn't have been able to go off them. His body wouldn't have recovered even if he'd wanted to. Normal people cycle but Simmons was at the bleeding edge.


    In the end, the safety record isn't that bad. Anabolics have been around for 80 years. Every actor in Hollywood uses them. Every athlete does. Every guy at your gym who's jacked does...and plenty of amateurs who don't look that jacked do, too. There's no epidemic of "roid rage" meltdowns of people going on violent rampages or you'd see it a lot more based on how many millions of people are running some kind of stack.


    If you're a competitive athlete, they're necessary. If you want to get big, they're necessary. But you are messing with your endocrine system to some extent. So you may as well have a good reason (like you're an actor or model or athlete and it's your job). If you're older I don't see why you'd ever need to get off just basic TRT at the levels a doctor will give you--I'm not talking about that when I talk about cycling anabolics.


    There probably should be more thought into putting old people on stuff. Most doctors aren't interested in "optimizing" your health and vitality. They're waiting for problems. Find a doctor who's interested in working with you to maximize your health. My guess is that the wealthy are already doing this. We know testosterone can work wonders for older men.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  104. @mmack
    Steve,

    As I recall, the period of spring 1986 - spring 1987 was dominated by sports stories about "The Revenge of the Old Guys":

    - Jack Nicklaus winning the 1986 Masters at age 46
    - Bill Shoemaker winning the 1986 Kentucky Derby at age 54
    - Al Unser Sr. winning the 1987 Indianapolis 500 at age 47

    To this day, each man is the oldest winner of each event. Unser's win was the most improbable since he wasn't even entered to run the 1987 Indianapolis 500, and only got a car to drive due to another driver's (Danny Ongais) injury in a practice crash preventing him from qualifying. The car Al drove to victory also wasn't entered for the race and was on display in a hotel lobby (or a shopping mall, depending on who tells the story) in Reading, PA before being rolled out of the lobby and flown via cargo plane to Indianapolis. And yet, when Mario Andretti and Roberto Guerrero fell short in their attempts to win Al was there to swoop in and take the win.

    Wild stuff for three older dudes in that year span.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Wild stuff for three older dudes in that year span.

    Don’t forget Dennis Conner’s recovery of the America’s Cup in February 1987 after the controversial loss in ’83.

    Yet another episode that made the ’80s so much fun.

  105. @Steve Sailer
    @Barnard

    "What kind of piece of junk TV did you own?"

    I'm guessing a 1983 Sony Trinitron 19".

    Replies: @Renard, @Joe Stalin, @Yojimbo/Zatoichi, @PiltdownMan, @The Wild Geese Howard

    1983 Sony Trinitron

    We had a 25″ around this time.

    Sony was the thing back then because they had the sharpest reds, that being the most difficult electron gun to focus due to the longer wavelength of red light.

  106. @Anon
    OT

    Would this de-obfuscate or further obfuscate data on whites vs blacks? Presumably "non-Hispanic whites" would now be "Hispanic or Latino" (as would Hispanics with more black or native American blood), with no breakdown into European vs. African/Eurasian/mixed? The white portion of the pie graph would shrink, but an unknown number of "Hispanics" would basically be white, but not white enough to voluntarily forego the diversity advantage grab.

    Should Latinos Be Considered a Race?

    https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/should-latinos-be-considered-a-race

    In January, the Office of Management and Budget posted notice of proposed changes to the federal government’s standards for collecting data on race and ethnicity.

    On the past five censuses, respondents were asked whether they are, or are not, Hispanic or Latino. This is the so-called Hispanic-origin question. The census also asked a separate question about their racial identities, and respondents were able to choose “American Indian or Alaska Native,” “Asian,” “Black or African American,” “Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander,” “White,” or “Some Other Race.”

    Under the new proposal, they would be asked a combined question: “What is your race or ethnicity?” Potential answers would now include “Hispanic or Latino” and “Middle Eastern or North African.” Census-takers could check as many boxes as they’d like, and provide as much additional information as they’d wish, such as whether they’re Navajo, Samoan, Ghanaian, Moroccan, Scottish, and also report multiple Hispanic groups such as Mexican and Puerto Rican, or Colombian and Guatemalan.
     

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    One could argue for the no ethnic data position. It’s just citizen, non-citizen.

    But I’m on board with more data–“knowledge is good”.

    That said, I think they’re approach is trying to mush things.

    In the New World race and ethnicity are not quite the same. It makes sense to ask the “race” question and provide all the big continental scale races, including things like South Asians and Polynesians and then include Mestizo and Mulatto as their are significant numbers of people in those categories.

    Then move on to ethnicity which can include broader cross-national groupings like Jewish (and the three flavors thereof) or Arab or Kurdish as well as all the national origins–English, Scots Irish, Irish, German, Scottish, Dutch … Chinese, Filipino, Mexican, Indian, Cuban … as well as various Native tribes, etc.

    And you can toss in “national origin” if that’s separate again.

    Since we are collecting on computers it’s trivial to gather quite full spectrum data.

  107. I remember in 1983 a 47 year old Jim Brown was on the cover of Sports Illustrated talking of a comeback with the Raiders. The guy must have been delusional as was a 41 year old Lyle Alzado who attempted an ill fated comeback with the Raiders in 1990.

    Four time Olympic gold medalist discus thrower, Al Oerter, 1956-1960-1964-1968, made a comeback at 43 in 1980 but finished fourth in the Olympic trials but still managed to be beat his personal best throw by over 20+ feet. Wouldn’t have mattered though because of the American boycott of the Moscow Olympics.

    My guess is unlike Oerter, Brown and Alzado were never serious and only wanted attention. Oerter made a serious effort at attempting to participate in his 5th Olympics and proved to still be a world class competitor, whereas Brown and Alzado were long past it.

  108. @J.Ross
    OT -- Planetary alignment, happening in Eastern time zone, about now (give or take another hour). Presently only moon and (I think) Jupiter visible. Apart from Uranus (which will be present but not naked-eye visible) there will be several more planets.

    Replies: @AnotherDad

    OT — Planetary alignment, happening in Eastern time zone, about now (give or take another hour). Presently only moon and (I think) Jupiter visible. Apart from Uranus (which will be present but not naked-eye visible) there will be several more planets.

    Not really aligned but “visible” i guess.

    The bright one you are seeing is Venus. Venus and Jupiter were almost in conjunction in the evening sky, a month ago–within a 1/2 degree; moon’s width, a small finger at arm’s length. But Jupiter has almost sunk into the Sun–visible only right after sunset. While Venus–super bright–is swinging along it’s “apparent retrograde” path, getting higher each day. (If we are 6’oclock and the sun at the center, Venus is at around 10, and headed our way. Ergo its disk pretty full–well lighted and quite bright.)

    Mars has been pretty quasi-overhead (westish) in the evening this spring. If you arc up from Betelgeuse–the bright red star at the top of Orion–toward the North Star, Mars is about halfway to Capella which is the bright star sort of “on top” half way between Orion and Polaris.

    Saturn isn’t around anywhere. I assume it’s in the morning now, and i’m not a crack of dawn guy.

    If Uranus is up there in the evening–great. I’ll have to look that up, but thanks. You’ll definitely need at least binoculars to see it, if not a telescope.

    I do like the evening night sky this time of year. A lot of “big boys” are out to play. Sirius, Orion–to me the most interesting constellation–with Betelgeuse and Rigel, Capella, Aldebaran (Tarus), Castor and Pollux (Gemini) And we have Venus–very bright–and Mars and we did have Jupiter, though now just barely. And Arcturus and Spica come up in the East–though i’m usually not looking out that way until final house check late at night.

    • Thanks: hhsiii, Renard
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @AnotherDad

    My bad (but also to expose moderation delay). This alignment was something of a letdown. I probably never was going to see Jupiter, because it started out low and I'm surrounded by buildings, but I never would have seen Mercury either, because it was in front of Jupiter. Uranus similarly was not only not naked-eye visible but near to Venus (which was very bright, way more than normal). Even Mars didn't look like its normal self, because it was close to the Moon.
    I saw an alignment before the Trump campaign, it actually has a special name in astrology which I've seen once and never again ("the Sword of X"): every bright object, all the visible planets plus one of the brightest stars, lined up with the center of the crescent moon so that the horns of the crescent point along the line.

  109. @JohnnyWalker123
    https://twitter.com/jenn034612/status/1639688515049996288

    Replies: @Known Fact

    US politicians and corporate news lie about everything. That’s why the wickedly satirical George Santos Show has them so freaked out

  110. Thanks for the much needed diversion Steve.
    However, the putt was no “birdie tap in”! It was a tricky little tester with a bit of break. True that guys like Jack are expected to make that putt but it was no tap in or gimmie by any stretch.

  111. @Vagrant Rightist
    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    Whatever appeal is being made to authenticity, to compare it to martial arts, with real risks attached to competition, where you're engaged with a live resisting opponent appears perplexing. And politics and unpopular decisions do appear in combat sports. The history of boxing is hardly devoid of controversial outcomes.

    To me, to even call golfers athletes is seems contentious in the context of the sports generally.

    What are these 'fake' activities in relation to golf anyway ?


    But steroids, etc. is faking it. Though in competition they try to stop Better Lifting Through Chemistry.

    I assume that Olympic style wieght lifting tournaments with careful blood testing are honest.
     

    Powerlifting is overwhelmingly not drug tested from what I remember. And if some orgs do, no one goes to those events, because no one is interested in seeing what people can lift naturally. And people frequently use anyway in drug tested comps because the tests are quite poor.

    Olympic lifting (at the Olympics) is drug tested, although there has been an arms race between the testers and users at the Olympics and I suspect some do manage to use some substances still and not get found out.

    I don't know if that would make it fake if it happens exactly but yes it could be seen as enhanced, it may not be strictly natural and could confer an advantage.

    Replies: @Pixo, @whereismyhandle, @Meretricious, @Curmudgeon, @AceDeuce

    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    I take it that you have never played to any real extent. Nothing is the same from one minute to the next, and understanding what those changes are require attention to detail. As for “middle class status” that may be the case in the US, but in many countries, it is a social outing that has nothing to do with status. As someone who has played golf in Scotland at a time when the overwhelming majority of courses were public, and the private courses were obscenely expensive to join, you played with a cross section of society out to enjoy the day.

  112. @Muggles
    @Stan Adams

    Stan, you were looking pretty good back then.

    I guess we all looked pretty cute at that age.

    Now? ...

    Replies: @Stan Adams

    Christmas ’85 vs. Easter ’23.

    I ran the 2023 pic through Remini, an AI image-enhancement app. The enhanced shot is quite an improvement, I must admit.

    [MORE]

  113. @whereismyhandle
    @Vagrant Rightist

    Some?


    NOBODY is competitive in olympic lifting without massive doping. America is at a slight disadvantage here because our Olympic doping program is sort of a free market system of the athlete being on his own with that part--USADA is *not* trying to help our cheaters pass. The Olympic Training Centers are *not* putting it in their oatmeal or telling them where to go.

    Bulgaria, Iran, Russia, China, Cuba, et al. have a different approach to their Olympic training and international competition drug tests.


    Shane Hamman held the world record in the back squat when he was a powerlifter. He finished 10th or something at the Olympics. He said of course technique is important in olympic lifting but that gold medalist Hossein Rezazadeh was just stronger than him. He saw how easily Rezazadeh was warming up with 800 lbs. squats, etc.


    I don't know when people are going to get over this. You have to "cheat" to compete so nobody in these sports considers it cheating. Anything with raw power at a premium means there is no "clean" alternative. The most naturally talented sprinter or lifter or thrower in the world would be garbage, clean, compared to dozens of people with less talent who are juicing.


    Just like everyone in the sport knew Lance Armstrong was "cheating" and he still doesn't consider it cheating because everyone knew what was needed to compete.


    In some sports it's just a requirement (the more raw strength/speed/size/power/endurance required--all things we know how to juice--the more you know it's 100% doped). You're either in or you're out when it comes to playing to win.


    Are there clean athletes in the Olympics? Sure. I'm personally close to two. One is a male skier and the other is a woman in a sport nobody (especially in this country) cares about. Think fencing or whatever. Nobody on her team was juicing. I don't know enough about skiing to know how prevalent it is there. My friend who didn't juice was a moguls skier (which I'd suspect would be least likely--he said his training was "asking Bode if he wanted to ski some fresh powder" while laughing because people like Bode had to train more specifically).

    At the OTC, the coaches don't talk about juicing. There's shorthand for all of this stuff in whatever sport you're in. The weightlifting coaches can tell you what you need to work on and built-in is the question of whether your supplements are dialed-in and optimized. Sprinters talk about someone with a new "coach" or "trainer" or "nutritionist" getting better results. That's just the way it is.

    You want to wrestle Alexander Karelin clean? Go ahead and try, I guess.

    https://www.iwmbuzz.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/aleksandr-karelin-most-dangerous-wrestler-in-the-olympic-know-more-920x518.jpeg

    I'm kiding. Nobody did try to wrestle him clean.

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @Vagrant Rightist

    This sounds rather speculative, like locker room talk to me, but I don’t know the ins and outs of what goes on at the Olympics. There is no disagreement use is still happening, the issue is one of degrees.

    There’s an easy answer to this: are some Olympic lifts – and there’s many weight classes (and m/f) comparable to what someone could potentially lift naturally in those weight classes (m/f) ? My impression, without delving too deep into analyzing this is generally yes. At the highest absolute end, particularly where records are broken, and medals dished out regularly, maybe one should look carefully.

    To say ‘nobody’ is competitive in Olympic lifting without drugs appears a bit of an overreach, reliant on hearsay rather than available evidence. I could be wrong on this though.

    I don’t know anything about Karelin, is he an Olympic wrestler ? I’m not sure what I’m looking at exactly. But if the suggestion is his physique is ‘obviously unnatural’, I don’t necessarily see clear evidence of that.

    Now that said, grappling sports at the high competitive end do use drugs. But the Olympics is rather rigorously drug tested, although it’s possible corruption comes into that testing process, as well as athletes’ efforts to evade detection.

    But really, all of this proves my point. What the hell has this got to do with golf ?

    • Replies: @Vagrant RIghtist
    @Vagrant Rightist

    Let me rewrite that second paragraph. It's not quite right. This sounds better:

    Is the entire spectrum of performances we see in Olympic lifts(at the Olympics) somewhere in the ballpark of what we could expect naturally at the elite end of the genetic/training spectrum ? My hazy impression is the answer is yes.

    Wild guess..don't know the actual applicable margins, but someone coming in and lifting [some percentage] more than expected for their bw could be a significant red flag at that level of competition.

    One imagines drug use, where it occurs being rather measured and calibrated to expectations, and to what others are doing in this event. But again it's just guessing.

    As the combined lift totals differences between competitors at the same bw are probably relatively small, I suppose one could make an argument that if everyone is using, they're all on roughly a similar playing field of use to compete at the same level and not stand out too much.

    But it's not clearly demonstrated that use is the overwhelming norm at the Olympics specifically.

    I notice that he then goes on to say "Every actor and every athlete" uses.

    Which is starting to sound like the meme 'everyone who is stronger than me and looks better than me is using'. It's a distorting internet-driven claim that comes up a lot in these discussions, albeit it is also somewhat fueled by people who blatantly use claiming they don't.

  114. @R.G. Camara
    Steve should release his compendium in 2 volumes. Volume 2 should just be all his articles on golf course architecture. That's the one only real Steve Sailer OG fans will buy.

    Replies: @That Would Be Telling

    Steve should release his compendium in 2 volumes. Volume 2 should just be all his articles on golf course architecture.

    Problem is, there’s no limiting principle to your suggestion. Volume three, if not four or more, could cover women’s hair. Etc….

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @That Would Be Telling



    Steve should release his compendium in 2 volumes. Volume 2 should just be all his articles on golf course architecture.
     
    Problem is, there’s no limiting principle to your suggestion. Volume three, if not four or more, could cover women’s hair.
     
    "May I touch your putting green?"

    Etc….
     
    What's with the elongated ellipses we see here? Is it phallic? Is it like skyscraper competition?

    Say, how is that Jeddah Tower coming along? The Burj Khalifa is named for the family that finally rescued it financially.


    https://api.architectuul.org/media/5da31217-ded0-4d4f-a4af-6e586d7b5e1b/1600x900.jpg

  115. @AnotherDad
    @J.Ross


    OT — Planetary alignment, happening in Eastern time zone, about now (give or take another hour). Presently only moon and (I think) Jupiter visible. Apart from Uranus (which will be present but not naked-eye visible) there will be several more planets.
     
    Not really aligned but "visible" i guess.

    The bright one you are seeing is Venus. Venus and Jupiter were almost in conjunction in the evening sky, a month ago--within a 1/2 degree; moon's width, a small finger at arm's length. But Jupiter has almost sunk into the Sun--visible only right after sunset. While Venus--super bright--is swinging along it's "apparent retrograde" path, getting higher each day. (If we are 6'oclock and the sun at the center, Venus is at around 10, and headed our way. Ergo its disk pretty full--well lighted and quite bright.)

    Mars has been pretty quasi-overhead (westish) in the evening this spring. If you arc up from Betelgeuse--the bright red star at the top of Orion--toward the North Star, Mars is about halfway to Capella which is the bright star sort of "on top" half way between Orion and Polaris.

    Saturn isn't around anywhere. I assume it's in the morning now, and i'm not a crack of dawn guy.

    If Uranus is up there in the evening--great. I'll have to look that up, but thanks. You'll definitely need at least binoculars to see it, if not a telescope.

    I do like the evening night sky this time of year. A lot of "big boys" are out to play. Sirius, Orion--to me the most interesting constellation--with Betelgeuse and Rigel, Capella, Aldebaran (Tarus), Castor and Pollux (Gemini) And we have Venus--very bright--and Mars and we did have Jupiter, though now just barely. And Arcturus and Spica come up in the East--though i'm usually not looking out that way until final house check late at night.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    My bad (but also to expose moderation delay). This alignment was something of a letdown. I probably never was going to see Jupiter, because it started out low and I’m surrounded by buildings, but I never would have seen Mercury either, because it was in front of Jupiter. Uranus similarly was not only not naked-eye visible but near to Venus (which was very bright, way more than normal). Even Mars didn’t look like its normal self, because it was close to the Moon.
    I saw an alignment before the Trump campaign, it actually has a special name in astrology which I’ve seen once and never again (“the Sword of X”): every bright object, all the visible planets plus one of the brightest stars, lined up with the center of the crescent moon so that the horns of the crescent point along the line.

  116. @Anonymous
    It’s like today scientists just achieved Sailer’s Law of Mass Shootings cold fusion, and we get golf posts— that figures

    Replies: @J.Ross, @Mike Tre, @Hypnotoad666, @Haxo Angmark

    that is an excellent golf post by Sailer. Statistically, Niklaus with 18 majors reigns supreme….but the greatest raw talent, with 14 majors in his first decade, is TW. If he hadn’t destroyed his family by screwing every White (and one Jewess, the last one, that ratted him out) whore in ‘Murka, and then all those self-inflicted injuries, he would have easily eclipsed Jack with 20+ majors.

    • Disagree: AceDeuce
    • Replies: @Old Virginia
    @Haxo Angmark

    To borrow from "Dandy" Don Meredith, "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then every day would be Christmas".

    The reason Tiger came up short of Nicklaus doesn't matter, does it? There's more to success as an athlete than dominating for periods at a time. I admire Tiger, he's one of the greats. By any measure he's had a remarkable career. I don't think he's a bad guy but lacking something in character and discipline isn't a footnote that overrides results.

    Nicklaus' unwavering competitiveness and dedication spanning two generations of competition leaves him, still, the greatest. So, it seems to me.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  117. @Ganderson
    @Reg Cæsar

    The NCAA’s Frozen Four (D I Men’s hockey championships) is also Easter Weekend. Reg, I’m sure you’ll be tuning in and rooting for the Golden Gophers…

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The NCAA’s Frozen Four (D I Men’s hockey championships) is also Easter Weekend. Reg, I’m sure you’ll be tuning in and rooting for the Golden Gophers…

    Nah, I’m partial to the Northeast’s tech schools– RPI, WPI, Clarkson, USCG Academy, Michigan Tech, Queen’s (okay, that last one isn’t NCAA). They used to be powerhouses in hockey. Are they anywhere today?

    Likewise, college soccer was dominated by Saint Louis U, U of San Francisco (both Jesuit), Hartwick (decidedly not Jesuit; ask Scott Adams ’79), and the like in the 1960s and 1970s. The big schools were uninterested then.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Reg Cæsar

    Clarkson had an ok year, and Michigan Tech (Welcome to Houghton, where God left his snowshoes!) made the NCAA tournament before being blown out by Penn State 8-0.

    I’m eagerly awaiting the BU- Minnesota tilt- hope it doesn’t wind up like this one did:

    https://rinkrap1.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-brawl-that-sparked-two-natty-champs.html


    Hartwick used to have a really good D III men’s lax team: my brother in law played there.

  118. @That Would Be Telling
    @R.G. Camara


    Steve should release his compendium in 2 volumes. Volume 2 should just be all his articles on golf course architecture.
     
    Problem is, there's no limiting principle to your suggestion. Volume three, if not four or more, could cover women's hair. Etc....

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Steve should release his compendium in 2 volumes. Volume 2 should just be all his articles on golf course architecture.

    Problem is, there’s no limiting principle to your suggestion. Volume three, if not four or more, could cover women’s hair.

    “May I touch your putting green?”

    Etc….

    What’s with the elongated ellipses we see here? Is it phallic? Is it like skyscraper competition?

    Say, how is that Jeddah Tower coming along? The Burj Khalifa is named for the family that finally rescued it financially.

  119. @The Anti-Gnostic
    @whereismyhandle

    What are the bad effects of PED's, short-term or long-term?

    If there aren't any, why don't we work up regimens for old people in addition to athletes performing at high levels? Maintaining muscle mass and energy levels would help out on a lot of other aging issues

    Replies: @whereismyhandle

    short-term: some emotional volatility (roid rage is overblown but there’s also jokes about guys crying while watching netflix on certain post-cycle drugs) and people not using them correctly can mess up their livers (eg, oral as opposed to injection can be brutal on the liver).

    i’d guess if you have some pre-existing heart condition or who knows what else you could be playing with fire.

    medium to long-term: you’re messing up your natural hormone system. proper cycling can mitigate this to some degree. i don’t know how much damage is done with “proper” cycling, some guys will tell you they’re 100%. it’s hard to know because you’re not going to get good studies on this–the guys on the frontlines doing this for real are not people signing up for randomized controlled studies. it’s all trying to match basic science with received folk wisdom, not really having all the data you’d want.

    Louie Simmons, a hugely important figure in the powerlifting world, died last year at 74. He was very pro-anabolics and he also said he never got off them once he started in 1970. In a case like that, he wouldn’t have been able to go off them. His body wouldn’t have recovered even if he’d wanted to. Normal people cycle but Simmons was at the bleeding edge.

    In the end, the safety record isn’t that bad. Anabolics have been around for 80 years. Every actor in Hollywood uses them. Every athlete does. Every guy at your gym who’s jacked does…and plenty of amateurs who don’t look that jacked do, too. There’s no epidemic of “roid rage” meltdowns of people going on violent rampages or you’d see it a lot more based on how many millions of people are running some kind of stack.

    If you’re a competitive athlete, they’re necessary. If you want to get big, they’re necessary. But you are messing with your endocrine system to some extent. So you may as well have a good reason (like you’re an actor or model or athlete and it’s your job). If you’re older I don’t see why you’d ever need to get off just basic TRT at the levels a doctor will give you–I’m not talking about that when I talk about cycling anabolics.

    There probably should be more thought into putting old people on stuff. Most doctors aren’t interested in “optimizing” your health and vitality. They’re waiting for problems. Find a doctor who’s interested in working with you to maximize your health. My guess is that the wealthy are already doing this. We know testosterone can work wonders for older men.

    • Agree: Brutusale
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @whereismyhandle

    Yeah, I'd agree that steroids haven't been that big of a scourge to athletes' health as I once worried. Baseball players started using them a lot 30 years ago, and it doesn't seem to me that a huge number have recently dropped dead in their 50s, but I haven't systematically looked into it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Brutusale, @Corvinus

  120. @Vagrant Rightist
    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    Whatever appeal is being made to authenticity, to compare it to martial arts, with real risks attached to competition, where you're engaged with a live resisting opponent appears perplexing. And politics and unpopular decisions do appear in combat sports. The history of boxing is hardly devoid of controversial outcomes.

    To me, to even call golfers athletes is seems contentious in the context of the sports generally.

    What are these 'fake' activities in relation to golf anyway ?


    But steroids, etc. is faking it. Though in competition they try to stop Better Lifting Through Chemistry.

    I assume that Olympic style wieght lifting tournaments with careful blood testing are honest.
     

    Powerlifting is overwhelmingly not drug tested from what I remember. And if some orgs do, no one goes to those events, because no one is interested in seeing what people can lift naturally. And people frequently use anyway in drug tested comps because the tests are quite poor.

    Olympic lifting (at the Olympics) is drug tested, although there has been an arms race between the testers and users at the Olympics and I suspect some do manage to use some substances still and not get found out.

    I don't know if that would make it fake if it happens exactly but yes it could be seen as enhanced, it may not be strictly natural and could confer an advantage.

    Replies: @Pixo, @whereismyhandle, @Meretricious, @Curmudgeon, @AceDeuce

    Golf is an incredibly boring game that white people engage with to signal their middle class status to other whites.

    You know why Whites like to play golf?

    It’s their only chance to dress up like negroes…

    • LOL: Vagrant RIghtist
  121. @whereismyhandle
    @The Anti-Gnostic

    short-term: some emotional volatility (roid rage is overblown but there's also jokes about guys crying while watching netflix on certain post-cycle drugs) and people not using them correctly can mess up their livers (eg, oral as opposed to injection can be brutal on the liver).

    i'd guess if you have some pre-existing heart condition or who knows what else you could be playing with fire.


    medium to long-term: you're messing up your natural hormone system. proper cycling can mitigate this to some degree. i don't know how much damage is done with "proper" cycling, some guys will tell you they're 100%. it's hard to know because you're not going to get good studies on this--the guys on the frontlines doing this for real are not people signing up for randomized controlled studies. it's all trying to match basic science with received folk wisdom, not really having all the data you'd want.


    Louie Simmons, a hugely important figure in the powerlifting world, died last year at 74. He was very pro-anabolics and he also said he never got off them once he started in 1970. In a case like that, he wouldn't have been able to go off them. His body wouldn't have recovered even if he'd wanted to. Normal people cycle but Simmons was at the bleeding edge.


    In the end, the safety record isn't that bad. Anabolics have been around for 80 years. Every actor in Hollywood uses them. Every athlete does. Every guy at your gym who's jacked does...and plenty of amateurs who don't look that jacked do, too. There's no epidemic of "roid rage" meltdowns of people going on violent rampages or you'd see it a lot more based on how many millions of people are running some kind of stack.


    If you're a competitive athlete, they're necessary. If you want to get big, they're necessary. But you are messing with your endocrine system to some extent. So you may as well have a good reason (like you're an actor or model or athlete and it's your job). If you're older I don't see why you'd ever need to get off just basic TRT at the levels a doctor will give you--I'm not talking about that when I talk about cycling anabolics.


    There probably should be more thought into putting old people on stuff. Most doctors aren't interested in "optimizing" your health and vitality. They're waiting for problems. Find a doctor who's interested in working with you to maximize your health. My guess is that the wealthy are already doing this. We know testosterone can work wonders for older men.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Yeah, I’d agree that steroids haven’t been that big of a scourge to athletes’ health as I once worried. Baseball players started using them a lot 30 years ago, and it doesn’t seem to me that a huge number have recently dropped dead in their 50s, but I haven’t systematically looked into it.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Steve Sailer


    Baseball players started using them a lot 30 years ago, and it doesn’t seem to me that a huge number have recently dropped dead in their 50s, but I haven’t systematically looked into it.
     
    Yes, something you might want to research.

    My trainer and others I've read about the subject suggest that this is very bad for the liver and long term cardio.

    A lot depends on the personal details of usage and family genetics, but I think the effect is analogous to putting a 450 hp engine into a Ford Taurus with an ordinary transmission. (We had one for a while like that. Didn't work out...)

    It seems to run hot and fast but eventually overworks parts which aren't designed for ultra maximum use.

    Most of the classic old style 'roided up pro wrestlers are either already dead are looking pretty bad. Of course they had other injuries. The football player Lyle Alzado comes to mind.

    He died of brain cancer and had other problems due to steroids. http://www.espn.com/classic/biography/s/Alzado_Lyle.html

    Replies: @Old Virginia

    , @Brutusale
    @Steve Sailer

    You probably should have had the same position on Covid.

    , @Corvinus
    @Steve Sailer

    Just because Bonds, Giambi, McGuire, and company have yet to drop dead from their steroid use does not mean that using them did not have adverse effects, nor was it not a big deal for professionals to cheat, as you cagily imply with your comment.

  122. @J.Ross
    @Steve Sailer

    Yes, you did, sort of.
    BLM bloodlibeled to black people that cops were hunting them for sport.
    Some of the blacks believed them and went on cop murdering sprees.
    The ones who didn't hunt cops protested cops.
    In Dallas, cops who had already worked a full shift downed some caffeine and served as guards for a gaggle of whining overgrown children protesting "police brutality."
    A man hiding in a tall parking garage took aim and sniped several of those police officers until a police robot informed him that, dead or alive, he was coming with it.
    Presidential candidate & media reactions:
    Trump: Back the blue!
    Clinton: You know, these people, these blackophobic, speederphobic, domestic abuse rejecting, you know, the whole basket of donut-eating deplorables, they really need to sit through lectures about how black KANGS have suffered, and nobody should be arrested if they do not then feel like being arrested.
    MSM: Yass Queen Slay!
    Steve: Hmm. I guess Trump just won.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Right. When I first heard of the BLM terrorist massacring the Dallas police on July 7, 2016, the thought popped, unbidden, into my head: “So Donald Trump is going to be President.”

  123. @Vagrant Rightist
    @whereismyhandle

    This sounds rather speculative, like locker room talk to me, but I don't know the ins and outs of what goes on at the Olympics. There is no disagreement use is still happening, the issue is one of degrees.

    There's an easy answer to this: are some Olympic lifts – and there's many weight classes (and m/f) comparable to what someone could potentially lift naturally in those weight classes (m/f) ? My impression, without delving too deep into analyzing this is generally yes. At the highest absolute end, particularly where records are broken, and medals dished out regularly, maybe one should look carefully.

    To say 'nobody' is competitive in Olympic lifting without drugs appears a bit of an overreach, reliant on hearsay rather than available evidence. I could be wrong on this though.

    I don't know anything about Karelin, is he an Olympic wrestler ? I'm not sure what I'm looking at exactly. But if the suggestion is his physique is 'obviously unnatural', I don't necessarily see clear evidence of that.

    Now that said, grappling sports at the high competitive end do use drugs. But the Olympics is rather rigorously drug tested, although it's possible corruption comes into that testing process, as well as athletes' efforts to evade detection.

    But really, all of this proves my point. What the hell has this got to do with golf ?

    Replies: @Vagrant RIghtist

    Let me rewrite that second paragraph. It’s not quite right. This sounds better:

    Is the entire spectrum of performances we see in Olympic lifts(at the Olympics) somewhere in the ballpark of what we could expect naturally at the elite end of the genetic/training spectrum ? My hazy impression is the answer is yes.

    Wild guess..don’t know the actual applicable margins, but someone coming in and lifting [some percentage] more than expected for their bw could be a significant red flag at that level of competition.

    One imagines drug use, where it occurs being rather measured and calibrated to expectations, and to what others are doing in this event. But again it’s just guessing.

    As the combined lift totals differences between competitors at the same bw are probably relatively small, I suppose one could make an argument that if everyone is using, they’re all on roughly a similar playing field of use to compete at the same level and not stand out too much.

    But it’s not clearly demonstrated that use is the overwhelming norm at the Olympics specifically.

    I notice that he then goes on to say “Every actor and every athlete” uses.

    Which is starting to sound like the meme ‘everyone who is stronger than me and looks better than me is using’. It’s a distorting internet-driven claim that comes up a lot in these discussions, albeit it is also somewhat fueled by people who blatantly use claiming they don’t.

  124. @mmack
    Steve,

    As I recall, the period of spring 1986 - spring 1987 was dominated by sports stories about "The Revenge of the Old Guys":

    - Jack Nicklaus winning the 1986 Masters at age 46
    - Bill Shoemaker winning the 1986 Kentucky Derby at age 54
    - Al Unser Sr. winning the 1987 Indianapolis 500 at age 47

    To this day, each man is the oldest winner of each event. Unser's win was the most improbable since he wasn't even entered to run the 1987 Indianapolis 500, and only got a car to drive due to another driver's (Danny Ongais) injury in a practice crash preventing him from qualifying. The car Al drove to victory also wasn't entered for the race and was on display in a hotel lobby (or a shopping mall, depending on who tells the story) in Reading, PA before being rolled out of the lobby and flown via cargo plane to Indianapolis. And yet, when Mario Andretti and Roberto Guerrero fell short in their attempts to win Al was there to swoop in and take the win.

    Wild stuff for three older dudes in that year span.

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco

    Testosterone levels were 40% higher for American males during the 1980s compared to today. The average 25 year-old man today has lower testosterone levels than the average 60 year-old man in 1990.

  125. @Haxo Angmark
    @Anonymous

    that is an excellent golf post by Sailer. Statistically, Niklaus with 18 majors reigns supreme....but the greatest raw talent, with 14 majors in his first decade, is TW. If he hadn't destroyed his family by screwing every White (and one Jewess, the last one, that ratted him out) whore in 'Murka, and then all those self-inflicted injuries, he would have easily eclipsed Jack with 20+ majors.

    Replies: @Old Virginia

    To borrow from “Dandy” Don Meredith, “If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then every day would be Christmas”.

    The reason Tiger came up short of Nicklaus doesn’t matter, does it? There’s more to success as an athlete than dominating for periods at a time. I admire Tiger, he’s one of the greats. By any measure he’s had a remarkable career. I don’t think he’s a bad guy but lacking something in character and discipline isn’t a footnote that overrides results.

    Nicklaus’ unwavering competitiveness and dedication spanning two generations of competition leaves him, still, the greatest. So, it seems to me.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Old Virginia

    Tiger is a rather unusual character -- e.g., he seriously considered quitting golf in 2006-2008 to become a Navy SEAL. Some of his injuries, like the big one in 2008, were worsened by doing military exercises with the SEALs. In turn, those injuries ended his crazy dream of military glory.

    Nicklaus is, in contrast, a super stable, functional personality. Nicklaus too got a little bored with golf, but he just played more amateur tennis for fun.

    Replies: @BB753, @The Anti-Gnostic, @AceDeuce

  126. @Old Virginia
    @Haxo Angmark

    To borrow from "Dandy" Don Meredith, "If ifs and buts were candy and nuts then every day would be Christmas".

    The reason Tiger came up short of Nicklaus doesn't matter, does it? There's more to success as an athlete than dominating for periods at a time. I admire Tiger, he's one of the greats. By any measure he's had a remarkable career. I don't think he's a bad guy but lacking something in character and discipline isn't a footnote that overrides results.

    Nicklaus' unwavering competitiveness and dedication spanning two generations of competition leaves him, still, the greatest. So, it seems to me.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Tiger is a rather unusual character — e.g., he seriously considered quitting golf in 2006-2008 to become a Navy SEAL. Some of his injuries, like the big one in 2008, were worsened by doing military exercises with the SEALs. In turn, those injuries ended his crazy dream of military glory.

    Nicklaus is, in contrast, a super stable, functional personality. Nicklaus too got a little bored with golf, but he just played more amateur tennis for fun.

    • Replies: @BB753
    @Steve Sailer

    Was it a character flaw or just juicing?

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Steve Sailer

    LOL I remember that about Nicklaus from when I played tennis, back in another lifetime. He had a grass court put in at one of his residences.

    Tiger really did up the whole game. But I remember Greg Norman 10 or 15 years ago saying Tiger's swing was just too big and athletic for him to hang on long enough to beat Nicklaus.

    The 2021 wreck in the giant McMansion-Mom vehicle was really nuts. Speeding to give a golf lesson like some assistant club pro. OTOH, it's kind of a touching display of humble, yeoman consideration. ("I've got to give Drew Brees his money's worth!") But he should have done things Phil Mickelson-style: Invite Drew Brees and his buddies out to your home course for a round and hire the club pros to caddy and coach, because you're going to be too busy betting on holes and schmoozing with all your new NFL friends. Then hop in your road-hugging Porsche Carrera with Drew Brees and drive 80 mph to your favorite restaurant for drinks and dinner on you.

    , @AceDeuce
    @Steve Sailer


    Tiger is a rather unusual character — e.g., he seriously considered quitting golf in 2006-2008 to become a Navy SEAL.
     
    Yeah, and when I was four, I "seriously considered" becoming a superhero. My mom pinned a dish towel to the back of my shirt, just like a little cape. Those sure were good days...

    LOL. Reminds me of the boo'schitt about how Will "Slappy" Smith was going to go to MIT after high school. Sure.

    As you go on to say in your fanboi post, Eldrick got hurt just LARPing with the SEALs for a day or two. Do you seriously think it would have gone better for him as an actual candidate, going 24/7 for weeks on end, and getting mental and emotional stress and abuse along with his little ow-ees?

    #JacksTheGOAT

  127. @Steve Sailer
    @whereismyhandle

    Yeah, I'd agree that steroids haven't been that big of a scourge to athletes' health as I once worried. Baseball players started using them a lot 30 years ago, and it doesn't seem to me that a huge number have recently dropped dead in their 50s, but I haven't systematically looked into it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Brutusale, @Corvinus

    Baseball players started using them a lot 30 years ago, and it doesn’t seem to me that a huge number have recently dropped dead in their 50s, but I haven’t systematically looked into it.

    Yes, something you might want to research.

    My trainer and others I’ve read about the subject suggest that this is very bad for the liver and long term cardio.

    A lot depends on the personal details of usage and family genetics, but I think the effect is analogous to putting a 450 hp engine into a Ford Taurus with an ordinary transmission. (We had one for a while like that. Didn’t work out…)

    It seems to run hot and fast but eventually overworks parts which aren’t designed for ultra maximum use.

    Most of the classic old style ‘roided up pro wrestlers are either already dead are looking pretty bad. Of course they had other injuries. The football player Lyle Alzado comes to mind.

    He died of brain cancer and had other problems due to steroids. http://www.espn.com/classic/biography/s/Alzado_Lyle.html

    • Replies: @Old Virginia
    @Muggles

    Your analogy to mechanics is entirely accurate. It's ancient history but at the end of the 1950's International Harvester ambitiously began to produce tractors with stepped-up horsepower, neglecting to bolster the rest of the power train and implement hitches. The result wasn't by any measure disastrous, the problems were remedied through warranty and redesign, but the damaged reputation allowed John Deere to leap ahead in sales.

    There are still plenty IH/Farmall tractors of the '60's and '70's being used daily in various ways but it's fair to wonder about the design miscalculation. Sometimes we attempt to carry more weight - or propel a ball farther - than than the equipment allows.

  128. @Steve Sailer
    @Old Virginia

    Tiger is a rather unusual character -- e.g., he seriously considered quitting golf in 2006-2008 to become a Navy SEAL. Some of his injuries, like the big one in 2008, were worsened by doing military exercises with the SEALs. In turn, those injuries ended his crazy dream of military glory.

    Nicklaus is, in contrast, a super stable, functional personality. Nicklaus too got a little bored with golf, but he just played more amateur tennis for fun.

    Replies: @BB753, @The Anti-Gnostic, @AceDeuce

    Was it a character flaw or just juicing?

  129. @Steve Sailer
    @Old Virginia

    Tiger is a rather unusual character -- e.g., he seriously considered quitting golf in 2006-2008 to become a Navy SEAL. Some of his injuries, like the big one in 2008, were worsened by doing military exercises with the SEALs. In turn, those injuries ended his crazy dream of military glory.

    Nicklaus is, in contrast, a super stable, functional personality. Nicklaus too got a little bored with golf, but he just played more amateur tennis for fun.

    Replies: @BB753, @The Anti-Gnostic, @AceDeuce

    LOL I remember that about Nicklaus from when I played tennis, back in another lifetime. He had a grass court put in at one of his residences.

    Tiger really did up the whole game. But I remember Greg Norman 10 or 15 years ago saying Tiger’s swing was just too big and athletic for him to hang on long enough to beat Nicklaus.

    The 2021 wreck in the giant McMansion-Mom vehicle was really nuts. Speeding to give a golf lesson like some assistant club pro. OTOH, it’s kind of a touching display of humble, yeoman consideration. (“I’ve got to give Drew Brees his money’s worth!”) But he should have done things Phil Mickelson-style: Invite Drew Brees and his buddies out to your home course for a round and hire the club pros to caddy and coach, because you’re going to be too busy betting on holes and schmoozing with all your new NFL friends. Then hop in your road-hugging Porsche Carrera with Drew Brees and drive 80 mph to your favorite restaurant for drinks and dinner on you.

    • LOL: Captain Tripps
  130. @Steve Sailer
    @whereismyhandle

    Yeah, I'd agree that steroids haven't been that big of a scourge to athletes' health as I once worried. Baseball players started using them a lot 30 years ago, and it doesn't seem to me that a huge number have recently dropped dead in their 50s, but I haven't systematically looked into it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Brutusale, @Corvinus

    You probably should have had the same position on Covid.

    • Agree: Captain Tripps
  131. @Reg Cæsar
    @Ganderson


    The NCAA’s Frozen Four (D I Men’s hockey championships) is also Easter Weekend. Reg, I’m sure you’ll be tuning in and rooting for the Golden Gophers…
     
    Nah, I'm partial to the Northeast's tech schools-- RPI, WPI, Clarkson, USCG Academy, Michigan Tech, Queen's (okay, that last one isn't NCAA). They used to be powerhouses in hockey. Are they anywhere today?

    Likewise, college soccer was dominated by Saint Louis U, U of San Francisco (both Jesuit), Hartwick (decidedly not Jesuit; ask Scott Adams '79), and the like in the 1960s and 1970s. The big schools were uninterested then.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    Clarkson had an ok year, and Michigan Tech (Welcome to Houghton, where God left his snowshoes!) made the NCAA tournament before being blown out by Penn State 8-0.

    I’m eagerly awaiting the BU- Minnesota tilt- hope it doesn’t wind up like this one did:

    https://rinkrap1.blogspot.com/2017/12/the-brawl-that-sparked-two-natty-champs.html

    Hartwick used to have a really good D III men’s lax team: my brother in law played there.

  132. @Muggles
    @Steve Sailer


    Baseball players started using them a lot 30 years ago, and it doesn’t seem to me that a huge number have recently dropped dead in their 50s, but I haven’t systematically looked into it.
     
    Yes, something you might want to research.

    My trainer and others I've read about the subject suggest that this is very bad for the liver and long term cardio.

    A lot depends on the personal details of usage and family genetics, but I think the effect is analogous to putting a 450 hp engine into a Ford Taurus with an ordinary transmission. (We had one for a while like that. Didn't work out...)

    It seems to run hot and fast but eventually overworks parts which aren't designed for ultra maximum use.

    Most of the classic old style 'roided up pro wrestlers are either already dead are looking pretty bad. Of course they had other injuries. The football player Lyle Alzado comes to mind.

    He died of brain cancer and had other problems due to steroids. http://www.espn.com/classic/biography/s/Alzado_Lyle.html

    Replies: @Old Virginia

    Your analogy to mechanics is entirely accurate. It’s ancient history but at the end of the 1950’s International Harvester ambitiously began to produce tractors with stepped-up horsepower, neglecting to bolster the rest of the power train and implement hitches. The result wasn’t by any measure disastrous, the problems were remedied through warranty and redesign, but the damaged reputation allowed John Deere to leap ahead in sales.

    There are still plenty IH/Farmall tractors of the ’60’s and ’70’s being used daily in various ways but it’s fair to wonder about the design miscalculation. Sometimes we attempt to carry more weight – or propel a ball farther – than than the equipment allows.

    • Thanks: Captain Tripps
  133. The most important thing from 1986.

    Let’s go State.

  134. @Steve Sailer
    @Old Virginia

    Tiger is a rather unusual character -- e.g., he seriously considered quitting golf in 2006-2008 to become a Navy SEAL. Some of his injuries, like the big one in 2008, were worsened by doing military exercises with the SEALs. In turn, those injuries ended his crazy dream of military glory.

    Nicklaus is, in contrast, a super stable, functional personality. Nicklaus too got a little bored with golf, but he just played more amateur tennis for fun.

    Replies: @BB753, @The Anti-Gnostic, @AceDeuce

    Tiger is a rather unusual character — e.g., he seriously considered quitting golf in 2006-2008 to become a Navy SEAL.

    Yeah, and when I was four, I “seriously considered” becoming a superhero. My mom pinned a dish towel to the back of my shirt, just like a little cape. Those sure were good days…

    LOL. Reminds me of the boo’schitt about how Will “Slappy” Smith was going to go to MIT after high school. Sure.

    As you go on to say in your fanboi post, Eldrick got hurt just LARPing with the SEALs for a day or two. Do you seriously think it would have gone better for him as an actual candidate, going 24/7 for weeks on end, and getting mental and emotional stress and abuse along with his little ow-ees?

    #JacksTheGOAT

  135. @Steve Sailer
    @whereismyhandle

    Yeah, I'd agree that steroids haven't been that big of a scourge to athletes' health as I once worried. Baseball players started using them a lot 30 years ago, and it doesn't seem to me that a huge number have recently dropped dead in their 50s, but I haven't systematically looked into it.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Brutusale, @Corvinus

    Just because Bonds, Giambi, McGuire, and company have yet to drop dead from their steroid use does not mean that using them did not have adverse effects, nor was it not a big deal for professionals to cheat, as you cagily imply with your comment.

  136. @Tiny Duck
    @Thomm

    The alleged perpetrator committed the atrocity because of access to guns and the brutal Christian conservative culture that didn’t accept the non-binary identification of the alleged perpetrator.

    The alleged perpetrator might have pulled the trigger but was not really at fault

    YOU BIGOTS are

    Every time you refuse to use pronouns don’t ban guns elect conservatives stop immigration ban books be racist homophonic exercise white privileged make up lies about crime

    You poke the bear and cause death and destruction

    You killed those children you make me sick

    I don’t know how you sleep at night

    Replies: @Rocko

    I sleep great at night knowing that I don’t have to deal with chimps like George Floyd or black trannies trying to dance for children. You can keep your chimps Duckie.

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