Once again French demonstrates his insecurity and intellectual poverty.

Why are you even posting about this worthless non-entity?

Zing!!!

Is David French a 6-day, Young Earth Creationist?

That would account for his pique; the “70,000 years” remark would be both offensive and triggering!

As infinitesimal examples abound between media, academia and the current system of government shows us over the last few decades, the search for truth or enlightenment took the last exit off the freeway a long time ago.

I can sympathize with Steve. It’s frustrating when you try to present logical perspective on an issue, like the negative effects of forcing children to wear masks for a year in isolation, for example, and the other person either mocks or ignores the point.

Seriously, I have to wonder sometimes why you bother to engage the likes of French when his response is fairly predictable. His mindset is perfectly clear: The US is forever on trial for its original sin of racism (a term that was unknown for most of human history), because whites were doing the enslaving of POCS. Doesn’t matter that whites weren’t the ones who sold Sub-Saharans into slavery, nor that the Middle Eastern enslavement of Sub-Saharans lasted over a longer period of time (ca.700-1800AD), and was far more brutal in their treatment of their slaves. The US foundation was racist, and to French and his ilk that’s all that matters.

Orwell’s vision of the future is apt: a boot stomping forever, whether one likes it not.

The overwhelming majority of Vietnamese and Chinese persons currently in this country were the equivalent of Southern sharecroppers (worse? doesn’t the diminutive stature of the ones that came over tend to argue they were receiving even less calories and protein than those on the very bottom of the American social pyramid) for at least 300 years? Maybe 500? Maybe 1000? And yet even the middling IQ Vietnamese are running circles around blacks in 2-3 generations after arrival, often attaining respectable mid-level appointments in the Federal government which they then use to pivot to lucrative assignments in the private sector (during the Dumbya Bush War on Terror years Vietnamese-Americans seemed to constitute an inordinate number of his centurions).

As someone who has posted some snarky remarks, I have to give credit where credit is due. That was a brilliant tweet.

You didn’t just leave midwit French pointing and sputtering but the entire establishment. Well done.

Well, at least he didn’t say you have cooties.

But, wow, what the heck IS going on in his head that he thinks that’s an adequate or effective response from someone claiming to actually be engaged in these issues at least to some degree.

Types like French are honestly worse than genuine liberals or progressives. Years of Cold War and neocon propaganda about the strength of American values (beloved by the likes of French) are what primed US institutions and the educated classes to eventually accept CRT as a valid framework. It’s just an updated twist on triumphalist, revisionist history.

I see you’ve posted about this guy 3 posts ago, Steve. I assume he’s some sort of pundit. You probably already know this, but if it makes you feel any better, let me remind you that these people don’t have integrity, like you or I do. (Oh, and Tiny Duck.)

David French wants to keep his silly punditing job much more than he wants to seek the truth. I’m sure you remember – hell, you posted about it – that one dude on the zoom call who got put in a big racial grievance, errr, time out, for not calling out the one lady who brought up the continual poor performance of her black students on that private* call. David French doesn’t want to be THAT GUY. That’s all…

… plus, he sounds like an asshole.

.

* “Private? WTF is private?”

– Millennials

Because, unfortunately, his side has won. He doesn’t have to answer Steve, just as Murray’s book was ignored.

We may have the facts on our side, but they have the power.

No blue checkmark Steve?

No doubt the conquest of Ireland in 1536 and the subsequent forced relocation of the Irish to work as indentured servants on Plantations in the Caribbean for 300 years, followed by continued occupation until 1922 explains why the Irish have a mean IQ of 85 and x7 the homicide rate of everyone else. Not to mention the 3.6 million who starved to death or immigrated when you know who was eating meat every day curtesy of Master. That is why it is fair that Harvard goes out of their way to admit them.

Why are you even posting about this worthless non-entity?

Because engaging with accessible, mid-sized Twiiter accounts is the highest leverage we have right now for getting facts and arguments (especially Steve’s) in front of the public.

Why are you even posting about this worthless non-entity?

Because this guy French recently co-authored an opinion column in one of the most influential news sources in the world.

The point is to drive home the fact that most of the Big Thinkers in 2021 are not only mediocrities; they are malevolent and thoroughly dishonest.

Just as buildings collapse when you have incompetent architects and engineers, societies collapse when the influencers are pernicious lairs.

I like the way he took a screenshot, figuring that Steve would try to delete his tweet and sneak back into his hidey-hole.

How long does David French think it will take Palestinians to arrive at the level of Jews? Will Nakba trauma last maybe a few centuries? And then, Palestinians will be as rich and privileged as the Jews. After many years of much-deserved affirmative action of course.

Some things don’t make sense. If blacks are held back by past oppression, why are they so good at sports? Shouldn’t their despairing emotional state prevent them from exerting themselves in all competitive fields? Could that have to do with biology? Oddly enough, blacks have the highest self-esteem in America.

And what about the Chinese? Their history has been pretty miserable for several centuries due to all sorts of calamities of internal and external origins.. But once given the opportunity, they seem to be making great strides in engineering and the like, even though they have less opportunities than black Americans, surely the most indulged people on Earth. And yet, the Chinese remain hopeless in sprint and basketball. Could it be biology again?

Blacks and Chinese, both with claims of historical tragedy. Yet, trauma doesn’t prevent blacks from dominating NBA. And trauma doesn’t prevent Chinese from building roads and high-speed trains.

Trauma seems to work in a funny way. Among blacks it messed with their math ability, and among Chinese it messed with the dunking ability. This is a fascinating topic. All human races are all alike and equal in ability, but historical trauma somehow manages to suppress particular talents among certain groups. Holocaust didn’t affect Jewish gift for money-making but apparently messed up their talent for Greco-Roman wrestling and NFL football. How many Jewish running-backs?

By world standards was the black experience in America so horrifying? Millions died in a single year in other parts of the world as the result of war, famine, and other disasters. Even though blacks got the shorter end of the stick, it seems like they were shielded from the worst horrors of the world as the result of living under white rule in America. All the number of lynched blacks is miniscule compared to those who died in the Ukraine famine. Compared to whites, blacks were oppressed in America, but compared to blacks in Africa, they were rather blessed. Oppressed or blessed, it’s a bit relative.

That’s worse than name-calling.

You should sue his sorry ass for libel.

Steve, don’t argue with puppets.

Should we start a betting pool on when David French writes “The Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution are racist documents”?

Blue checkmarks aspire to be and cheer for Bluecaps.

https://lloydsnotes.com/2018/06/03/the-gulag-archipelago-vol-1-chapter-4-6-post-2/

Pretty sure we can deduce by the constant attention that he gets that he’s all the rage among congressional and CEO wives or somesuch.

But mainly because the Times is using French as their fake conservative while everyone would be better served were they to use Steve for their real one. Steve isn’t very conservative but he is up to the traditional Times standard and he challenges them in ways they need challenged. French doesn’t, not close.

OT

This audio-only podcast is creeping towards mainstream media coverage of “Facing Reality”: Nice-guy anti-Trump conservative pundit Matt Lewis interviews Charles Murray.

https://www.mattklewis.com/matt-lewis-and-the-news/charles-murray-on-facing-reality/

Lewis kind of wanted to talk environmental vs. genetic, which is explicitly not discussed in the new book, causing a tiny bit of frustration on Murray’s part.

Lewis partners with left-winger Bill Scher on the DMZ show on Bloggingheads.

Why does David French hate science?

Why does French’s Wikipedia page (the very first sentence) say that he is a “former attorney”? It would be more accurate to say “former practicing attorney.” Properly, French is still an attorney, unless he asks the law school trustees to actually cancel his degree; like, do a full-blown Bill Cosby degree cancellation. I realize this is tricky territory, Prince and Bruce Jenner come to mind.

What French's mean girlz insult conveys to me is: a) he reads Sailer, b) he is upset at Sailer's popularity & influence, c) he believes Sailer is beneath him & unworthy of official punditry jousting, and d) he nonetheless desperately seeks to publicly express his displeasure.

— Logical Meme (@Logicalmeme) July 8, 2021

“Has entered the chat” suggests he reads more than Sailer.

What would French say about the iSteve commenting community? He’s run out of invective already.

No one [should be] allowed to accuse anyone else, […] of being racist, sexist, xenophobic, white supremist, or any other derisive, identity-based label. No slurs or name-calling. These don’t enlighten, educate or edify. They add nothing. Give us an argument. Tell us why the other person is wrong.

(Amy Wax, quoted in an Op-Ed at The Western Journal)

David French would do well to heed Prof. Wax’s counsel. As would countless others, including some right here.

They already have David Brooks and Ross Douthat as their fake conservatives, how many do they need really? Who is David French?

A little context for David French. That’s his family.

You just don’t get it, Steve. Blacks are supple clay in the hands of YT; they can never escape his power…..

The left is now obsessed with evil being caused at a genetic level

The reason you talk about a group of people like this is to justify violence against them https://t.co/O6D5bMVq2H

— Auron MacIntyre (@AuronMacintyre) July 7, 2021

The left?

David French is a Pentecostalist JAG who adopted a couple African kids then got abused by the lunatic fringes of the Dork Right (Richard Spencer et. al.) in the ugliest terms for doing so. He’s to this day pro-Iraq War and was briefly drafted by Bill Kristol and his people to run for President as a third-party candidate in 2016 before they settled on Evan McMullen instead.

Since Trump’s election he’s been a leading Never Trumper since he racistly associates Trump supporters with the Dork Righters who originally abused him. He’s also regularly painted himself into various absurd corners due to this faulty premise that he is evidently loathe to re-examine, most famously making the conservative (sic) case for Drag Queen Story Hours at children’s libraries. For most of this period he wrote for National Review.

As suggested I really don’t follow the guy, but this is what I’ve picked up third or fourth hand. Corrections welcome.

You make interesting points about HBD being more important than the Legacy of Slavery but it doesn’t matter–you still have to pay for slavery one way or another.

Why should you be allowed to get away with it?

This is the kind of company Steve belongs in:

https://twitter.com/ClintEastwo_/status/1412791878228090883?s=20

French is DiAngelo class. Same dynamic. Let him go and shake the dust off your feet.

“The black share of known murder offenders was quite a bit lower in 1984 than in 2019, and 2020 will likely set a new record. NAEP test score gaps narrowed in the 1970s-80s, but stopped around the time crack and gangsta rap arrived.”

I hate to tell ya (yup, ya, I said ya, ya ya ya), but the two observations above suggest nurture more than nature. Crack and gangsta rap are, in case you didn’t notice, aspects of the environment, not hereditary alleles.

We must stand up to retard level NYT writers and embarrass them publicly every chance we get.

Steve now has a little army and its growing. i am surprised how many people who aren’t banned or deboosted by twitter are in that thread.

The whole ‘punch a nazi’ psyop is because they know in the marketplace of ideas they are bankrupt pauper mendigos. In a battle of wits they are unarmed. Once their slurs no longer work its game over.

no thanks for the black pill. this is daily kos level concern trolling.

Which one is the wife?

it doesn’t matter–you still have to pay for slavery one way or another.

Blacks should pay Whites for “slavery.” Blacks are the group that has benefited from it.

He’s not a thinker, he’s a wanker.

Oh dear, I’ve stooped to name calling. But, fortunately, in a somewhat parochial British style. So I can get away with it. Probably.

Not fit to shine your shoes Steve.

David French wears adult diapers.

Filed under the rubric of I didn’t know that:

Malcom Gladwell is gay and has dated Nick Land (who is a Curries Yarvin type), and is a Christian in a denomination not that far removed from the Amish.

Source: Wikipedia.

600,000 Americans paid for slavery. That’s the number of casualties in the Civil War. Maybe we can start there and see if blacks owe descendants of veterans. (Well, the Union ones, obviously.)

To accept the reparations argument, at least as currently constituted, you must argue that every person who is white in America benefitted from slavery, whether or not their ancestors arrived here before 1865, or even owned slaves (at most, 1/4 of southern families—or if you go by who held ownership, 1/20 of all southerners—owned slaves in 1865, and northerners outnumbered Southerners 2.5-1). Apparently too if you arrive here from Africa, Haiti, or Brazil since 1965 you should also be able to claim some right to these damages.

You also have to assume that slavery had an effect that consistently hampered blacks from 1865 onward, when it appears that black achievement has waxed and waned over the last 150 years.

The Kendi crowd does make a logical point—since 1965 we have to explain why a significant number of blacks are apparently doing worse. Slavery isn’t it. Kendi says it’s racism, but it must be systemic since it’s clearly not overt, no matter how much Joe Biden says the words Jim Crow. If it isn’t racism, then…
That which must never be spoken, and which Steve dares speak.

But he has a well-manicured Wikipedia Page!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_French_(political_commentator)

NAEP test score gaps

NAEP test? Does that measure ‘good hair’ vs. ‘bad hair’ quotient?

If “the legacy of slavery and oppression” explains why blacks do worse than whites, then why are blacks in former Caribbean slave colonies better off than blacks in Africa – including parts of Africa where they were never enslaved by whit people?

Why is the poorest black-majority country in the Caribbean – the poorest country, period, in the entire Western Hemisphere – the one that has been free of slavery the longest – Haiti?

If the assumption is that every race/ethnic group should be equal, then why does the Left never question why Asians and Jews do so much better than other races/ethnicities? Why is there never any effort to equalize Jews with everyone else?

Why are blacks better off – far better off – in white-majority countries than in black-majority countries, on almost every social metric from income to life expectancy?

The fact that blacks in the USA do worse than whites, and the fact that they were formerly slaves, is what’s called a correlation. Correlation, as every scientist is supposed to know – as every purported intellectual should know – is not causation.

Blacks do worse than whites even in white-majority countries where they were never slaves, and where Jim Crow never existed.

It is supposedly racist to suggest that blacks are, on average, poorer than whites because of blakc behavior or genetics. But it is supposedly not racist at all to essentially blame an entire race – white people – for the fact that blacks are poorer than whites.

David French is an asshole, a liar, an ignoramus, or a demagogue. Or several or all of the above.

The racist has entered the chat

I love it when Ivy League elites reflexively reveal the covert ad hominem thinking and language that that is foundational to who they are.

Is David French a 6-day, Young Earth Creationist?

That would show he has the nerve to disagree with the ACLU, ADL, and SPLC on something. Give him points for that much, at least.

Why is the poorest black-majority country in the Caribbean – the poorest country, period, in the entire Western Hemisphere – the one that has been free of slavery the longest – Haiti?

Haiti was the only Caribbean country to receive a large injection of Polish immigrants.

That’s it. It was the Pollacks that did it.

But he’s objectively right, and there should be a complimentary Imperial March.

John McWhorter has a serious albeit critical review of Murray’s book on substack.

McWhorter basically praises with faint damns. He does not deny anything Murray says, but McWhorter hopes the racail differences are cultural and not genetic.

McWhorter has done enough actual reporting (e.g., his interactions with Black students at Cal) to indicate that there is at least some cultural component.

Here is McWhorter’s description of what went horribly wrong:

In the 1960s, a new and powerful fashion in black thought, inherited from the general countercultural mood, rejects championing assimilation to proposing that opposition to whiteness is the soul of blackness. Meanwhile, white leftists encourage as many poor black women as possible to go on welfare, hoping to bankrupt the government and inaugurate a fairer America. Soon, being on welfare in poor black communities is a new normal – hardly the usual, but so common that people grow up seeing not working for a living as ordinary. Then at this same time, a new War on Drugs gave poor black men a way of making half of a living by selling drugs on the black market, amidst a violent culture of gangland turf-policing. This feels more natural to them than it would have to their fathers because 1) the new mood sanctions dismissing traditional values as those of a “chump,” 2) it no longer feels alien to eschew legal employment, and 3) the Drug War helps make it that most boys in such neighborhoods grow up without fathers anyway.

Sounds like Ronald Reagan. Maybe a bit to the right of Ronald Reagan.

And I challenge anyone here to find one sentence in that quote which is not obvioously true.

Bottom line: whatever the genetic/cultural mix, something can be done about the culture.

And what we have actually done is make the culture worse.

And that needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

The culture is worse across the board though. Still blacks and the politicians fall hardest.

Why do so many public education supporters work in the private sector?

10,000 years from now (hopefully, the world will have been destroyed long before-but, you never know), there will still be endless yapping:

“We’ve only had 89 lesbian Black Presidents in our history, which is shameful, and were only on our two hundredth round of Holy Black Reparations, how can that overcome 400 years of oppression?–and who can forget the genocide, in which 500,000 slaves brought on to North American soil were decimated and reduced to 40 million plus in 2021?”

What kind of person allows Africans into his house? A mentally ill one, that’s who.

And to comport with his children? The height of madness!

Everyone is getting ahead of themselves. These people are not trying to find truth or engage in constructive arguments. They are first and foremost trying to protect the salary, power, and privilege they possess. Yelling “rayciss” at someone is a blunt force way of never having to address their questions or countervailing facts and thus protecting one’s own position as a “public intellectual” They do this because it works. They do this for their own short sighted and self interested reasons. They do this because too many generations of white people have been conditioned to fear that label and dread anyone labeled as such. They do it because it is a trap. Embrace it and you can be ignored, deny it and you can be shamed, fight it and you can be incarcerated.

I routinely make Sailerian comments in the NYT comboxes, aimed at the stupid or evil authors, but my comments are never printed. All the opinion that fits, they print.

Donald Trump has been deplatformed and defenestrated, but he's nowhere close to being gone. The same goes for the people who made up his administration.

Insider's project tracked down 327 of the most prominent Trump administration alumni here. 👇 https://t.co/M3yt4QaEF2 pic.twitter.com/5jwFGkQR2K

— Insider (@thisisinsider) July 7, 2021

–you still have to pay for slavery one way or another.

That we have done.

Creating a group of 40 million predominately sub-saharan ancestry Africans raised/kept at US level of prosperity and nominally within our (white) American rule-of-law has been the most expensive project ever done by man.

Remember “The Song of the South?”

Which one is the wife?

The bald one with the glasses…

No, the two observations confirm what is already known, which is that nurture is also a factor in human behavior and characteristics. Other observations confirm that nature is also a factor but the ratio of how much is nature versus how much nurture is still fuzzy.

OT: Coalition of the fringes (UK chapter) having trouble https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/jul/07/keir-starmer-labour-muslim-voters-red-wall-islamophobia

TLDW: the Muslims that Blair imported aren’t fully on board with the Labour Party’s love of gays and support of Israel and have made their feelings known (by beating up Labour canvassers).

Bottom line: whatever the genetic/cultural mix, something can be done about the culture.

And what we have actually done is make the culture worse.

And that needs to be shouted from the rooftops.

Well, there are some aspects of culture that have (or at least had) gotten better. the 25 years 1995 – 2020 had about half the murder rate of the historic highs in the 25 years previous to that (1970 – 1995). (https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-u-s-murder-rate-is-up-but-still-far-below-its-1980-peak/)

That’s not nothing. Other crime is down too. So are teen pregnancies. And New York City especially was night and day different between those two periods. I’m not saying it’s all roses by any stretch and the current wilding that the Left have wrought on our cities may bring in another couple of decades like the 70s – 90s , but there’s also some hope that we’ll snap out of it quickly.

For example in NYC the next mayor (a black former cop) is ran on a law and order platform so things might get back on track. (Chicago and Portland OTOH … well we’ll see)

The racist has entered the chat.

Name-calling. The last refuge of the woke.

Genes of course help mold one’s environment, you can’t separate one from the other.

Well said. Haiti is one of those places that Trump had in mind when he referenced “shit hole countries.” The black Haitians got rid of the French and then immediately turned into an ass-backwards, prototypical African country. One can only imagine the fortunes of Haiti if it had stayed a French possession like Martinique or Guadaloupe.

The obvious response is that women – until relatively recently – were more or less debarred from all public, political, academic and professional life everywhere. These prohibitions were of extremely ancient origin, dating in most cases from ‘time out of mind’. The prohibitions were lifted generations *after* legalistic racial disqualifications were lifted in the USA.
Yet, now we see female political leaders etc, everywhere in the west.

El Dato wrote to me:

The culture is worse across the board though. Still blacks and the politicians fall hardest.

Yeah. Charles Murray had another book almost a decade ago, Coming Apart: The State of White America, 1960–2010, in which he discussed the fact that the coarsening and decadence of our culture has damaged wokring-class Whites enormously more than upper-middle-class Whites. If you are smart, well-educated, and well-connected, you can fall into a lot of potholes and climb back out and avoid a lot of other potholes that are disastrous for dumber, less-educated, less-well-connected people.

I think Murray under-estimated the inner damage done to even upper-middle-class people: I think a lot of them, to quote Thoreau, are outwardly successful but inwardly live lives of quiet desperation.

But the publicly available statistics — crime, drug addiction, divorce, etc. — do support his argument.

And surely the same applies with even greater strength to Whites vs. Blacks. The loosening of norms and social restraints have been not so good for Whites but catastrophic for Blacks.

As for politicians… well, as Mark Twain said, “It could probably be shown by facts and figures that there is no distinctly native American criminal class except Congress.”

“The Kendi crowd does make a logical point—since 1965 we have to explain why a significant number of blacks are apparently doing worse.”

I’m not buying anything that Kendi has to say, and he has failed to make any logical points. The plain reason that “a significant number of blacks” are doing worse since 1965 is due to the explosion of the welfare state in the 60s which encouraged government dependence. A byproduct of that was the damn-near complete dissolution of the black family. Young black males being raised without their fathers are strongly correlated with criminal activity, which of course affects all of society. Throw in the fact that many blacks appear to not put a great deal of value in education (which is truly ironic since most big city education departments are run by blacks), and you have all of the makings for the current predicament.

vhrm wrote to me:

Well, there are some aspects of culture that have (or at least had) gotten better…

All of your points are valid, of course.

But the question is: why then are so many Blacks still doing so badly? And why is there so much hatred by so many privileged people towards so many of their fellow citizens (i.e., the ruling elite’s hatred of the productive classes)?

And why do we have a level of corruption unparalleled in Anmerican history? We have a President who is not just crooked (we’ve had those before!) but clearly senile, and a VP whose career started by sleeping with Willie Brown. And I have related in some detail here the deep institutional betrayal and corruption my own daughter has faced at UCLA.

America should be a great place. Few Americans right now feel that it is.

Something is very wrong.

David French is really awful, but accusing someone of racism is still very effective (and in the case of many commenters above, accurate, geez). No matter how brilliant or insightful Steve Sailer is on a subject, nobody with anything to lose will publicly agree. At some point people need to have the courage to at least ask, “is that true?” Something like, “Steve Sailer is evil, of course, but is what he saying in this one instance true?” (obviously Steve is really a good guy) As hopeless as things might seem, Steve Sailer is accomplishing a lot by planting hundreds of thousands of seeds of truth that will grow over the next several generations.

That still leaves the question, how do we combat this nonsense right now? How can you effectively explain why blacks will not achieve equal results in many areas? Sailer is crucial in the long run, but there needs to be some good arguments right now.

It’s important to understand that most liberal intellectuals have experiences with blacks that is very different than the norm. The same goes with upper middle-class conservatives living in the suburbs. Most have black neighbors that are smart and accomplished, but no contact with violent ones creating so much destruction. They don’t want to see their black neighbors ridiculed or insulted. It’s really important to be able to treat everyone as an individual and figure out a way to explain that generalizations are just that. I just don’t know how to do that with the 95% of people who are basically innumerate.

The argument that there’s systemic racism should be treated with the same contempt as the Flat Earth Society. It’s beyond absurd. If there were some way I could put down “black” for my kids, I pay lots of money for that privilege. As far as I can tell, there is but one person on the entire planet who may (I have no actual knowledge one way or the other) have African heritage and deny it, Dan Bongino.

McWhorter: “Waaah! See what the mean White People made us do against our will!”

LOL.

David French is a Pentecostalist JAG who adopted a couple African kids then got abused by the lunatic fringes of the Dork Right (Richard Spencer et. al.) in the ugliest terms for doing so.

Now why would anyone consider race cuckoldry ugly? After all, the very finest publications admire it.

How much of the reduction in teen pregnancies that you cite is attributable to the Great Pornification?

Crack and gangsta rap are, in case you didn’t notice, aspects of the environment, not hereditary alleles.

Prove it!

“Haiti was the only Caribbean country to receive a large injection of Polish immigrants.”……..Haitians are 95.5% sub saharan african………..Polish immigrants my ass.

Just a question of time before the UK gets an Islam Party. And the establishment will of course embrace it like a long-lost friend.

(It would certainly not surprise me if an Islam Party contended the next election in Sweden. At some point, the raw numbers just make sense. Why vote Social-Democrat, if you vote at all, when you can get the real thing?)

You are absolutely spot-on concerning Dan Bongino. I had a chance to meet him a political fundraiser a few years ago and he was very nice and pleasant to talk to. Being up close to him, I would say he has some black ancestry (most likely a grandma), but from what I understand he maintains that he’s 100% Italian.

Obviously racial groups differ in their behavioral tendences (even if on a moral level we should care about individuals).
And obviously biological differences somewhat figure in an explanation of behavioural differences.
But what seems more pertinent is how those in power can exploit such differences to create social division.
As much as I dislike the term, it seems to me “systemic racism” is real, but it is promoted by the globohomo elite via their underlings, and the purpose is to enable and exacerbate conflict between urban blacks and other “disfavored” groups, on the one hand, and “deplorables” on the other hand (“losers” who haven’t “confronted their privilege” and are to blame for all problems).
The entire conflict is fake… a tool of the globohomo billionaires to maintain their status.

You see, there she is in the center protecting them all ….especially “dad” ……he has a blue check-mark and a black daughter and Steve doesn’t , so ,end of argument……facts? logic? ….from THE RACIST!

If you could bet on it in Vegas, they’d already have taken it off the board. It’s so obvious where this is going.

The overwhelming majority of Vietnamese and Chinese persons currently in this country were the equivalent of Southern sharecroppers (worse? doesn’t the diminutive stature of the ones that came over tend to argue they were receiving even less calories and protein than those on the very bottom of the American social pyramid) for at least 300 years?

This is why we need freakenetics, akin to freakonomics.

You see, race is a social construct and all human groups were equal in ability. The only reason for current differences is historical trauma and its oddly uneven freako-epigenetic impact on human groups.

Pre-trauma, blacks and Chinese were equally good at both math and jumping. But, post-trauma, Chinese got worse than blacks in jumping while blacks got worse than Chinese in adding.

Freakenetics investigates why and how trauma affects various groups differently.

Hiroshima, for example, apparently traumatized the Japanese to excel in rebuilding their cities while rendering them deficient in sumo(vis-a-vis Mongols).

David French is a Pentecostalist JAG who adopted a couple African kids

David French is an Evangelical Christian who adopted one African kid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_French_(political_commentator)#Personal_life

Before “Evangelical” became a catch-all political term, the distinction between fundamentalists and Evangelicals really mattered. It should matter again. It’s a key way to understand the divisions in the church, not as left v. right. My Sunday essay: https://t.co/jOR7c9H1l2

— David French (@DavidAFrench) June 20, 2021

I grew up in fundamentalism. I converted to evangelicalism. The difference is profound but often opaque to those who are outside the “born again” (rather than Mainline) Protestant tradition. After all, both the fundamentalist and Evangelical branches of “born again” Christianity believe in the authority of scripture. Both branches are generally politically conservative. That’s why it’s just wrong to frame the differences between the two as “right versus left” or “conservative versus liberal” or much less as a battle between “conservative versus ‘woke.’”

Instead, I’d frame the difference in a number of different ways—“grace versus law,” or perhaps “open-hearted versus closed-minded.” In an earlier newsletter, I described fundamentalists as possessing “fierce existential certainty.” The fundamentalist Christian typically possesses little tolerance for dissent and accepts few sources of truth outside of the insights that can be gleaned directly from the pages of scripture.

They would love to hunt with guns and dogs but this will have to do for now…….again with the blue check mark.

Not sure about that. Nowadays, attorney is synonymous with lawyer, but I believe that the real definition of attorney is one who acts on behalf of another, e.g., power of attorney or attorney-at-law.

So once lawyer, always a lawyer (unless one loses one’s credential), but I don’t think that it’s moot to refer to someone as a former attorney.

Well, it’s the “Global Times” which is strong for China and likes to taunt “Zone A” as it swirls the drain.

It’s not all that different from North Korean invective.

If there was anything I would associate with “Anglo-Saxons”, it would be (sometimes literally) gay machinations from well-armed ships parked offshore where you let others bloody their hands, then swoop in to pick up the pieces as you powder your wig.

Literally this

Looks like you accurately surmised the situation Steve. Tirico, like Bongino, is maintaining to be 100% Italian. From Tirico’s Wikipedia page: “he has stated that he has seen pictures of his father and immediate family, all of whom are of Italian ancestry. ‘The only contact I had growing up was with my mom’s side of the family. And they are all as white as the refrigerator I’m standing in front of right now.’ [51] In regard to a genealogical test to see if he has a black ancestor, he said ‘Yeah. I’d like to find out the truth at some point, so I can answer questions for my kids’, but made it clear he does not feel any urgency.”

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Tirico#Personal_life

Tirico & Bongino remind me of the old saw: “who are you going to believe, me or you’re lying eyes?“

Ask French what he thinks about the #Tigraygenocide and if he doesn’t know about it, why not? (You, too. Learn about it. His girl’s people, the Amhara, are murdering Tigrayans.)

I don’t click on Grauniad links but I was mildly curious as to how they managed to work ‘islamophobia’ into the title rather than, say, homophobia. A quick search reveals leftists have decided to blame their falling support upon supposed islamophobes within the party, rather than on muslim conservatism, because muslims are sacred. Excellent news. At this rate they may end up making Labour as negligible as the Liberals.

I find it interesting that gays, who were top of the intersectional tree only a few years ago, have fallen down so rapidly. Were they not sufficiently committed to the cause or do wokies get bored and need to appoint new targets every so often, the way kings of old would periodically get bored with their favourites, chop their heads off and appoint a new favourite?

Sailer reads and posts about The New York Times, David French, etc. so that you and I don’t have to.

Why should you be allowed to get away with it?

No, no, no, you’ve got it all wrong – Steve’s not forcing us to stay here and write comments. We’re doing it of our own free will, I swear!

You’re right that someone should pay though. Peak Stupidity lays out a proper reparations plan.

Quit asking so many questions, Wilkey. Only racists ask so many questions.

(And for replier PaceLaw, Haiti is not just an ordinary shithole – Haiti is Shithole Central, the imperial capital of shitholiness, and a steaming beacon of shit on a mound of shit for the World. That’s why the Haitians get all uppity and often come across as shitholier-than-thou.)

Or he’s, unlike most, TRULY Italian. A lot of “pure Italians” are actually of German descent.
It’s why the further north you are in Italy, the people are whiter, and more competent.

I agree completely, PaceLaw, but let me put in a genetic angle in too: Simply, Socialism is dysgenic.

Black people had enough problems long before the scumbag LBJ’s Socialist “Great Society” was implemented in the mid-1960s. However, Socialism has brought us more of the worst, most irresponsible, and repressed the better more responsible ones among the black race. It does the same for all races, but it’s just much worse in the case of black people.

It’s funny how people on the alt-right will say they are Socialists, not realizing how cucked out they are in wanting to work their asses off to raise other people’s children.

Reveal your non-White ancestry Steve, Frenchy will soon be kneeling in front of you with his mouth open.

Sorry for the crudity but these people are repulsive.

Ask French what he thinks of this:

https://www.educationnext.org/critical-race-theory-collides-with-law/

CRT is compelled speech. Yes or no, French?

It’s getting so that I can’t tell the conservatives from the liberals without a scorecard anymore. Conquest’s Second Law, again.

Interesting take, Achmed. So, your view is that socialism’s goal is to create a large number of Helots (with blacks being at the forefront) that can be controlled and manipulated rather easily, correct? This does well appear to be the case.

My observation is that blacks are not being controlled perhaps as easily as anticipated, as this BLM and CRT-business is taking the nation in an unanticipated direction. Maybe this could well be the end-goal of socialists, or rather anarchists.

I absolutely agree with you about the “uppity” Haitians. Of those that I have met, they all seem to have an outsized pride in the history of their country, which always seems very baffling to me. Do they not know the truth or present reality of Haiti??? Haiti makes the Dominican Republic look like a first-world country, which is really saying something.

In a very weird way, I think that Haitians are totally dependent on the overwhelming good-manners of those of us in this country to not point out that their country is a complete and utter shit hole.

Doug Casey has interesting comments on Haiti

I read National Review as a teenager but stopped after Buckley turned it over to the Neocons.

It should be rather obvious that in “Colonial America” the only non white race the early settlers were concerned about were not ‘negroes’ but Indians/Native Americans. Negroes did not exist in any numbers until, perhaps the mid 18th century and even then only in the mid Atlantic and Southern colonies. New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania and New England had none so there would have been no more reason for these colonies to pass ‘oppressive and discriminatory” laws against blacks than Chinese or Mexicans.

It is a real conceit amongst modern negroes to imagine they mattered even before they appeared on the scene.

I believe most of the slaves brought over to what would become the United States came over in the second half of the 18h century through the end of the U.S. slave trade in 1807. Which means the average U.S. black’s slave ancestors were slaves for about 80 years (mid-point of 1750-1807 to 1865) or four generations, not the 250 years or 11 generations implied by 1619 Project. Then a century of legal segregation in the south and segregation by custom in north, but still benefits from co-existence in the richest county in the world. Then a half century of massive black preferences and subsidies.

Like French says, complex.

The Labour Party already is the ‘Islamic Party’ in all but name.

In fact, it has been for the past 50 years, at least.

Didn’t they murder all the Polish deserters from Napoleon ‘s Army after the Revolution?

I like the way he took a screenshot, figuring that Steve would try to delete his tweet and sneak back into his hidey-hole.

French took the screenshot so that the general public couldn’t easily access and follow Steve’s Twitter account.

The terms were ugly, not the ding an sich. Sort of like French’s comment was ugly, not Steve’s question.

It’s all changing the subject from the defamation, who is imposing it, and why, which is the pressing issue.

Crack and gangsta rap are, in case you didn’t notice, aspects of the environment, not hereditary alleles.

Indulgence in crack and gangsta rap is a phenotypic expression of hereditary alleles.

He’s not allowed to engage with the argument. That’s the whole way they stay “in power”. By pretending they are all there is.

You can’t trust anyone who has gone through the transformation French has here (banal modernism) to be straightforward with the truth. The bullshit is the point.

And as a simple search will show, French has taken it upon himself to serve as a (“sympathetic” but hostile of course*, in the style of Milley’s White Rage! reading) Pentecostal Whisperer for the elites (sic) while as it turns out evidently not being one himself.

* – in the article you quote he does the same regarding the tradition in which he was ostensibly raised. Another Colbert-style dancing monkey for the decadent Unruling Class. Colbert was raised Catholic in South Carolina.

It’s interesting that people who accuse other of being racist, never define the term. What is racism and why is it bad? Is noticing crime statistics, and advocating that crime-prone groups get special surveillance (which would increase public safety) racist? It takes some serious twistedness to claim that public safety is a bad thing, but I guess those Ivy league colleges have some great teachers and trainers for this.

An interesting point as to when the majority of slaves came to (what would become) the US. There were definitely African slaves in the US in the early 1700s, but in what numbers and as a percentage of the population? I would think fairly small, but cannot find accurate numbers.

At the end of the day though, I think that for the people behind the 1619 project the numbers would only serve as a moving goal post. Whether 80 or 250 years of slavery, they would say the exact number is insignificant, but that the trauma and deep-buried wounds are so substantial as to require massive redress. Or some such.

“The Ego has landed”

Reg Gutteridge* 1975.

*Late, lamented British (ITV) Boxing commentator and pundit.

“The plain reason that “a significant number of blacks” are doing worse since 1965 is due to the explosion of the welfare state in the 60s which encouraged government dependence. A byproduct of that was the damn-near complete dissolution of the black family. Young black males being raised without their fathers are strongly correlated with criminal activity, which of course affects all of society.”

I don’t find all that to be “plain reason” at all.

The fact is that exposure to white culture and laying on of the expectations that whites have of each other has been profoundly damaging to blacks (and, of course, to whites).

There are a fraction of blacks who can integrate, for whom in fact integration is an improvement upon living in a semi-separate black society such as existed up until the 1960s.

But this is not the experience of the majority. When Ralph Ellison wrote Invisible Man, he was using a metaphor to describe his inward lack of identification with the majority world he was moving in.

But there are millions of Invisible men and women in Camden, in Rochester, in Memphis, in Chicago, in Baltimore, in Birmingham and yes, in Selma for whom integration and integrationism has been a catastrophe. These people have no desire to live as we do, find living among us to be intolerable, have suffered from our strip-mining of their “talented tenth” to be show ponies for virtue signalling by various white businesses and academies, and are now on the verge of a full-fledged rebellion instead of the previous surge of individual barbarities visited upon unlucky whites by way of revenge.

The “it’s the welfare, it’s LBJ, ‘Dems are the real racists’, it’s not enough spending, it’s not enough programs” nonsense is simply a way for powerless whites to feel powerful again, as if it is they who control blacks and that the current state of black America is not because blacks are the way they are but because of something whites either do TO them, or don’t do FOR them.

It appears as if that ship has either sailed, or is casting off its mooring lines and charting a course to an unknown future – one in which David French won’t matter at all.

It’s not like all African Americans’ ancestors were brought over in one group in 1619. The slave trade built up over a period of time. So how many years of slavery does the average African American really have in his family history?

And how does that compare to the number of years of serfdom the average Russian has behind him?

When a chimp is embroiled in a spat
He’ll resort to the casting of scat;
And, if the chimp’s French,
You may notice the stench
Of merde in a Phrygian hat.

I think it’s fair to say that until about 60 years ago there were definitely barriers that prevented a number of the most talented blacks in American to fully utilize their abilities, and thus hampered economic mobility.

However, the civil rights was shortly followed with a sea change in cultural expectations of blacks along with the start of a massive shift in the employment landscape that would clobber the working class over the next generation that short circuited whatever upward mobility was possible. The widespread tolerance of cultural dysfunction combined with affirmative action in education and employment has given successive generations of black America a completely false impression of the group’s collective potential and shielded it from any critical self-examination.

I do think that it’s likely that the ceiling for black Americans is potentially higher than what we’ve seen over the last half century, but we will never get there without them adopting bourgeois values and being willing to live under the same standards as everyone else so they have an honest appraisal of what works and does not. However, most of the black elites and nearly all of their white enablers are not interested in this route, and thus we play this endless game of ignoring unpleasant facts that are right in front of everyone’s faces while blaming chimeras like white supremacy.

Name calling?

I’d call it slander, and if it’s not a criminal offense, it should at least be a slam-dunk win in civil court. If not, there’s something wrong with our legal system. Bullshit like that needs to stop.

I’ve spent time in fundamentalist-adjacent churches, and what French writes here appears correct, EXCEPT that CRT is in no way analogous to geology, biology, etc. The latter are based on observable reality, and the former is a hammer used by grifters and anti-white obsessives, not ‘an analytical tool’. French appears to be sucking up to the leftist hegemons. I once knew a liberal preacher who was opposed to the gay agenda, but then he realized how the wind was blowing in his denomination, and then ‘converted’. These are men who know on which side their bread is buttered.

OT or maybe 1618 On Topic. Wuz his family in the slave business a few generations ago?

Minnesota baseball coach is shot in the head and killed in road rage attack while driving with his son, 15, who gave him CPR until an ambulance arrived
Jay Boughton was taking his son home from a baseball game when the driver of another vehicle shot him in the head at around 10pm on Tuesday in Plymouth
The father-of-two’s car veered off the road, smashing through a chain-link fence before crashing into parked cars at a nearby apartment parking lot
Boughton’s son Harrison, 15, provided CPR until an ambulance arrived and the baseball coach was rushed to North Memorial Health hospital where he later died
The shooter sped off and remains at large
Boughton leaves behind a wife, his son and a 13-year-old daughter
By ROSS IBBETSON FOR MAILONLINE
PUBLISHED: 05:04 EDT, 8 July 2021 | UPDATED: 08:50 EDT, 8 July 2021

^^^^^How could this happen in Minnesota Nice? No description of the killer. Easy bet that we will find out in a few days who this is.

pic.twitter.com/RCLHLi9awo

— Nightmare Vision (@GodCloseMyEyes) July 8, 2021

The unspoken secret is the extent to which AWFLs and nepots and H1Bs have snaked that Affirmative Action. From the perspective of the competent white male who loses out it just looks like blacks, but to the regular blacks themselves they often see as little benefit as class action litigants do of their settlements after the lawyers are done with them.

To the patriotic white male you have the pain of seeing his country destroy itself on top of the personal insult/futility. Hence all the overdoses and suicides. It’s bad.

If you want to call the truth a black pill, that’s your decision.

It’s a fact that my side – the Disdent Right – lost the conventional war, thus the name. We aren’t voting or debating our way out of this.

The sooner whites who love their people and who want to survive as a people understand and accept that, the sooner we can move forward and start carving a place for ourselves in this new society.

The white pill is that the new order will get weaker over time giving us more opportunities to build our own communities.

Saudi Arabia officially banned slavery in 1962.

I don’t think the rejoinder that slavery existed from time immemorial holds any water in the present dispute. I submit that it is a fact that the US practiced an immoral system of segregation of its free-born American Negroes after the Civil War until 1947 when Pres. Harry Truman desegregated the military. Public sentiment was moved by the peaceful Civil Right movement until LBJ had serious Civil Rights laws passed in 1964 and the era of Affirmative Action ensued. That attempt to redress the wrongs inflicted on black Americans unfortunately had unanticipated bad results: the end of legal segregation destroyed the infrastructure of black America: the small business in the ghetto disappeared, the intellectual cream of Negroes went to white colleges and universities instead of to the HBCU like Howard, Fiske, and others.

The contemporary white American has atoned for the sins of the pre-Civil Rights era. Billions of dollars have been wasted in remediation programs and the common denominator of Negro culture has been degraded by all the gib-me’s. Paradoxically the era of Affirmative Action made the situation of the Negro worse.
I suspect that the rise of CRT and the absurd and dead-end attempts to glorify the Negro as evidenced in government, business, advertising, education, and journalism may be the harbinger of a turning point in public (white) sentiment.

Tirico sounds like he knows it is likely he is part black, but just hasn’t bothered to do the DNA test yet. His wife looks 100% white and based on the pictures I have seen of his kids, they look like octoroons. Maybe one of them have already taken a DNA test so he knows.

I’m not buying anything that Kendi has to say, and he has failed to make any logical points.

He did make one point that was fairly logical. He wrote (I paraphrase) “either there is something deficient about Black people, or Structural Racism exists”. He just chose the wrong answer from the two.

Why do you think Americans are “getting away with it” ??? what are you, some kind of idiot?

Yep, you are right. I just responded to French on twitter too, but it’s really quite pointless and will probably only bring his legion of sycophants down upon my twitter head.

Well said. Haiti is one of those places that Trump had in mind when he referenced “shit hole countries.”

Indeed, in the recent commando style assassination of the Haitian President, his wife was also shot. She had to be airlifted to Miami for medical care. With all those Magic Negroes and Negro Rule, they can’t manage a decent emergency room.

It might also be noted that the richest family in Haiti is Jewish. Kind of like a nation of one boxing promoter and 11,000,000 boxers.

the Middle Eastern enslavement of Sub-Saharans lasted over a longer period of time (ca.700-1800AD)

1800? That would have put them well ahead of the US. In 1800, slavery was alive and well in the Muslim world and remnants of it exist even today.

Saudi Arabia did not legally prohibit slavery until 1962, under pressure from Britain. However, Muslim clerics have never accepted that slavery is impermissible since the Koran expressly endorses it.

In 2003, Shaykh Saleh Al-Fawzan, a member of Saudi Arabia’s highest religious body, the Senior Council of Clerics, issued a fatwa claiming “Slavery is a part of Islam. Slavery is part of jihad, and jihad will remain as long there is Islam.”[125] Muslim scholars who said otherwise were “infidels”. In 2016, Shaykh al-Fawzan responded to a question about taking Yazidi women as sex slaves by reiterating that “Enslaving women in war is not prohibited in Islam”, he added that those who forbid enslavement are either “ignorant or infidel”.[126]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world#Slavery_in_the_late_20th_and_21st-century_Muslim_world

David French is an Evangelical Christian who adopted one African kid.

And just like with that totally useless Supreme Court Justice who was literally Hitler for ten minutes but in reality is David Souter, a white family adopting a black child is a gigantic red flag.

Honestly, I think David French can be tough to categorize. I still haven’t fully made my mind up about the guy. I can see why secular rightists wouldn’t like him — he’s certainly not a “no enemies to the right” sort of guy. But I don’t think Christians can embrace this attitude, and a certain amount of self-reflection within a movement is morally and spiritually healthy (even if, taken too far, you become a tool of your enemies). I think that some people bristle at any sort of reflection like this.

I am, however, coming to the conclusion that French is personally annoying. I don’t think we could be friends. This encounter with Steve is one example. I also saw this article describing his debate with Sohrab Ahmari, in which he doesn’t come off so well:
https://www.crisismagazine.com/2019/the-uncivil-civility-of-david-french

French seems like someone who likes to play up his military service, when he was a reservist in the freaking JAG, with one deployment to Iraq to do…lawyer things. He did earn a Bronze Star, which I always thought was a combat medal. My grandfather earned a Bronze Star for actions on Guadalcanal amidst a horror that he would never speak of, and yet I never once knew him to milk the thing for compliments, or to suggest that it reflected positively on his character and that non-veterans lacked that sort of character.

Apparently they’ll also give you a Bronze Star for lawyering really well, in which case it’s mandatory that you bring it up in every debate.

You might expect a Douthat’s “persistent systemic disadvantage” to persist in a stable population – in other words, if there were only negros and WASPS in the U.S., then yes I suppose that material differences between the populations would persist and you might presume that the disadvantage grew out of the prior subjugation.

But of course we don’t have a stable population. We have waves of immigration churning the U.S. economic class system – illiterate paupers without English language proficiency have arrived in the U.S. and within a generation eclipsed blacks in material wealth. Formerly wealthy and powerful families have lost their fortunes and entered the lower classes. Historically few Americans of any race have left wealth to their children.

Additionally, we have had in the past several decades immigration of black decedents of slaves from the Caribbean into the U.S., who themselves significantly outpace our own black descendants of slaves in life outcomes. What explains this?

In any event, all that Douthat can manage is an insinuation – 1. BAD THING. 2. ???? 3. ???? 4. OTHER BAD THING.

No one (with any common sense) has ever said that it’s ALL genetic. In the absence of better numbers (because everyone is afraid to study the problem and human experiments are tough) it’s fair to call it 50/50. We see that Caribbean black immigrants in the US (a genetically similar group who also once lived under slavery) do better than ADOS blacks because their culture is not as dysfunctional as American black culture. {Note however that many of the most successful Caribbean blacks, like Kamala’s dad, are from the light skinned elites of the islands, and thus possess a high % of European genes).

However, this means that we could (if the right measures were taken but we aren’t even trying) erase HALF the gap but never all of the gap. So many blacks are doomed to be a permanent underclass – a high % of them lack the IQ necessary to function in a modern society and are always going to need a thumb on the scale. George Floyd could have been raised by saints and scholars but he still would have been a stupid, impulsive guy by dint of his genetics. From the day of his birth, it was foreordained that he could never be educated beyond a basic level (you could have sent him to school and even given him a diploma but he still was incapable of education).

Sorry, this wasn’t meant to be a reply to that specific comment — I meant this to be a top-level comment.

Liberals are incapable of having an honest intellectual debate because they take everything personally. French doesn’t want to have a debate with Steve, he wants to send him to the Gulag where he deserves to be in his opinion.

Name-calling seems to be the only response thinkers like David French can come up with.

I think for someone like French, being not-racist requires constant mental effort not to think of the obvious thing right before his nose. He’s like the thirteen year old boy in Church trying not to be tempted into carnal sin – “don’t think of boobs, don’t think of boobs, don’t think of boobs.”

When you plopped the “hey maybe vastly different evolutionary pressures on populations for 70,000 years expressed themselves differently at the genetic level” in front of him, he needs to repeat his mantra to stop his mind from accepting the obvious truth of the matter.

Middle Eastern enslavement of Sub-Saharans lasted over a longer period of time (ca.700-1800AD),

The slave market in Khartoum, capitol of Sudan, probably closed around 2002 or so.

Probably. Though there are still people from non-Arab tribes in slavery in Sudan today.

The non-country country of South Sudan exists for a reason.

He just had a column in the most influential newspaper in the US if not the planet. He is an evil, utterly contemptible piece of shit but he’s hardly a “worthless non-entity,” you absolute clown.

In response to this lack of progress, the intellectual climate has become increasingly antiquarian: thus, the nonstop emphasis on redlining and Emmett Till.

I say:

TULSA TULSA TULSA was on the heels of that RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA crapola.

Don’t forget about the JEW/WASP Ruling Class fixation on a catchy tune written by some guy named Larry Flowers and performed by some other guy named Don Williams and many of us were first introduced to this song by that chinless bastard Limey named Eric Clapton. I like Knopfler better than Clapton and tough cookies if that makes me a bad person.

I think the JEW/WASP Ruling Class is just all kinds of interested in Sheryl Crow and her lean pretty spaghetti strap appeal with her cute blue eyes but I could be wrong.

I simply do not understand how one can live in the actual, real world, made up of all different types of people (and people are largely types), and STILL believe in Progressive Era behaviorism.

People are not blank slates, Mr. French, you absolute JAG(off)

Agree. Look at the life of a Vietnamese, Chinese, or Russian peasant from 1865 to 1965. Each endured famines, multiple wars, poverty, and political repression. Each endured forced labor and/or was just recently freed from forced labor.
A black living in Alabama from 1865 to 1965 had an easier life and more judicial and political rights.
The descendants of the Vietnamese, Chinese and Russian have rebounded well in their own countries and perform well when they immigrate here, moving up quickly to the middle class.
Not so with American blacks.
Compare Asian countries post-colonialism to African countries post-colonialism. Asians prospering on their own far better than Africans.

I don’t mind paying for more White children.

The 1618 Project

I say:

I fully support all elements of this 1619 Project crud because it answers with a delicious historical ding ding ding counter-attack to that nasty New England WASP twerp named Nathaniel Philbrick and his filthy outrageous attack on the South in the form of a book Philbrick scrawled out in his Boston lunatic asylum about the Mayflower canoe barge around the 400 year anniversary of the founding of JAMESTOWN in 1607 and the last time I phucking checked my math 1607 is a lot sooner in God’s history than 1620.

The 1619 Project was a great thing in that it brought history and identity and racial reality to the fore and it lovingly popped the Puritan Upper Middle Class Snot Brats by suggesting that sub-Saharan African Negroid slaves arrived here earlier than 1620 and that rock.

That scampy New England prick named Philbrick actually wrote a book on the Mayflower around 2007 to steal thunder from the Virginia Company and 1607. Cheeky bastard! I like his books and recommend them. Beaver pelts and tobacco and the like ultimately producing the dreaded and destructive and civilizationally calamitous Finance and Insurance and Real Estate(FIRE) sector currently running amok with the aid of the privately-controlled Fed.

I love all New Englanders of English ancestry and I despise with a patriotic fury all WASP turd New Englanders. There is a difference between WASP turds and people of English ancestry, and we used to know that but we don’t read Huntington or Fischer anymore.

BLACK AFRICAN BASTARDS GOT HERE BEFORE THE EAST ANGLIAN MAYFLOWER TURDS!

Whoopie goddamn Goldberg is one of the only Blacks to present the case for Blacks to proudly proclaim their scorn for Whitey while simultaneously making it clear that Blacks have been here for a long time and that counts for something in God’s eyes.

However, this means that we could (if the right measures were taken but we aren’t even trying) erase HALF the gap but never all of the gap. So many blacks are doomed to be a permanent underclass – a high % of them lack the IQ necessary to function in a modern society and are always going to need a thumb on the scale. George Floyd could have been raised by saints and scholars but he still would have been a stupid, impulsive guy by dint of his genetics. From the day of his birth, it was foreordained that he could never be educated beyond a basic level (you could have sent him to school and even given him a diploma but he still was incapable of education).

Had George Floyd been born in 1873 rather than 1973, he would have been part of a rural Southern community, probably used his strong back in some form of small-scale productive agriculture, and been inculcated with a form of Christianity which would have set rather bright and constrictive lines for his behavior, particularly regarding sex and violence. It’s still possible that he would have engaged in violent, law breaking and antisocial behavior nonetheless, but the former environment would have been far more conducive to putting Floyd on a path towards a generally productive, pro-social life. He probably would not even have had much desire for things he did not have himself.

But Floyd was born in 1973 and moved to a large U.S. city as a toddler to be raised by his mother without a father. A course of compulsory formal schooling lasting way past his aptitude. Confounding social and economic systems. Social notions of sexual morality collapsed. The market compensation for manual labor cratering. Bizarre neoreality beamed into his home via television. Vast wealth is within his view but a middle class existence entirely outside of his grasp.

Perhaps he didn’t have any better response than point-and-sputter, or perhaps he knows the intellectual limits of his career and can’t engage with Steve without crossing them.

You were never going to win that one, Steve.

All you had was facts and logic, but French has a melanoid son.

There are a lot of bored crazy people on the internet, and they will often swarm someone in this way. The problem isn’t ideological—there are crazies all over the political spectrum. Somehow, we have built up media systems that give an outsized voice and impact to those bored nutcases.

If someone, who worked for ESPN and NBC Sports no less, is not jumping on the victim identity bandwagon, I’ll take it. This probably reveals Tirico as a closet Republican. That and the fact that I don’t recall him ever expressing political opinions (not that I’ve paid close attention).

A good read on nature v nurture is Sailer’s review of Thomas Sowell’s 2005 book “Black rednecks and white liberals”. See: https://vdare.com/articles/tom-sowell-s-black-redneck-theory-ingenious-but-insufficient

“Sowell’s theory exhibits major problems. Indeed, I suspect Sowell is really trying to get blacks to reject ghetto gangsta culture as not authentically black, but a borrowing from poor white trash. And when I explained to my wife what I thought Sowell was doing, she replied: “Hey, if it works, I’m all for it.” (…) Sowell curtly dismisses the least-remarked but most distinctive influence on African-Americans: that they are Americans from Africa. In tribute to Steven Pinker’s book The Blank Slate, I call this tendency to ignore the African in African-American, to assume that they brought no traits with them, the Black Slate Theory (…) Our ignorance of African-Americans’ African heritage proved costly. In effect, America imported a welfare policy— paying generous welfare benefits to single mothers—that had worked reasonably well in Scandinavia for a generation. Yet, within two or three years, illegitimacy and crime rates among African-Americans were soaring—because they didn’t respond to the new incentives like Swedes.”.

Thanks, a simple search was informative:

Satanic Pregnancies, Explained

From ⁦@DavidAFrench⁩ https://t.co/qiSGlD7XKB

— The Dispatch (@thedispatch) February 2, 2020

I grew up in the very cessationist, fundamentalist a capella churches of Christ. I was ultimately predestined to be a Presbyterian. But for almost a solid decade between my departure from the church of Christ and my arrival in the Presbyterian church in America, my wife and I attended Pentecostal churches. She was saved at Times Square Church in Manhattan. I spent time as an interim youth pastor at an Assemblies of God church in Kentucky, and I can tell you that neither before nor since have I seen lives so fundamentally, immediately, and radically transformed as they were at those churches.

The French Press, from ⁦⁦@DavidAFrench⁩: Making Prophecy Great Again https://t.co/NU0uFjgrOs

— The Dispatch (@thedispatch) May 2, 2021

For the record, I’m not a cessationist either. In fact, my wife became a Christian in a Pentecostal church in New York City (Times Square Church), and she returns to worship at Times Square every time she can. Early in our marriage, I served as a deacon in an Assembly of God church in Kentucky. We were predestined to become Presbyterian, but we disagree with many of our Presbyterian brothers and sisters about the operation of the gifts of the spirit.

Improving black culture can be achieved in the same way that I can achieve holding a chair over my head: It takes a lot of effort and can only be done for so long. Eventually, nature wins.

McWhorter is correct. If whites forced blacks to act more white (or, even better, Asian), blacks – especially very light-skinned blacks like McWhorter who probably thinks and lives fairly white in his own life – would be better off as would those around blacks, including whites.

But it would be an unnatural situation, enforced by a condescending and paternalistic white hierarchy. I know that you, Steve and McWhorter just want to help blacks, but you’re asking them to be something that they’re not and, in the end, that’s wrong, even cruel.

Would white kids do better at school if they acted more like Asian kids? Sure. But they’d be miserable. White kids on average don’t like to grind day after day. It’s not our natural state.

Now, if white culture lead by whites pushed white kids to be better, that’s a different story. The same is true for blacks. But the improved culture needs to be developed and enforced by your own people, not a foreign tribe. Just as I have to want to improve myself to make changes in my own life for those changes to stick, races need to want to improve themselves. It can’t be imposed by others.

Black culture started heading downhill not just because our overall culture starting heading down hill but because blacks were given more freedom. They used that freedom to act the way that they’d naturally act.

The whole Nature/Nurture debate always seems to forget that culture is downstream from biology, i.e. the nurture will eventually reflect the nature unless artificially imposed. Therefore, even if technically, it’s 50% Nature/50% Nurture, the outcome over time will be 90% nature because nature controls nurture for the most part. (Now, over many, many generations, nurture will start to control nature, but we’re not talking about that time frame.)

The best answer is, as always, separation. I mean, what you and Steve are really saying is, “Hey, blacks, if you want to live around whites, you really need to step up your game. We give you a lot of stuff, it’s only fair.” Your solution – living together – requires endless and constant effort and attention, leading to animosity and, possibly, massive violence.

My solution – separation – allows people to be who they are, naturally so no effort. There’s a reason separation – tribal area and later nation states – has been the way that humans work out there differences. You (and Steve) mock “Diversity is Our Strength,” yet you promote a diverse society. Madness.

While David French’s white-knighting for blacks is somewhat understandable (he has an adopted daughter from Ethiopia), this general tendency of white liberals and even many on the right to rush to the defense of blacks is baffling. Blacks have never and would never do the same for whites. The David Frenches of the world are betraying their ancestors for nothing.

David French is confused in several ways.

Thanks for the info.

To the patriotic white male you have the pain of seeing his country destroy itself on top of the personal insult/futility.

Please elaborate.

I see what you did there. I doubt anyone else does.

1) The Manosphere has a word for people like French — he’s “white knighting,” a particularly pathetic form of virtue-signalling where you fancy your useless self a champion for the oppressed. Usually the aim is to somehow get your nice-guy beta ass laid, or in this case get a big wet kiss from the liberal establishment.

2) Conservatives are willing to debate the facts, or just wait for libs to finally be confronted by reality. Libs on the other hand simply want you dead. The mindset around 1968 was everything will be rosy once the mean old adults all die off. Now they’re dreaming of methods to actively hasten that die-off.

3) Mike Tirico Italian? Who is he kidding? Before ESPN and baseball itself became unwatchable I saw him on camera many times and simply assumed he was black, kind of a lighter and more polished Al Roker

PCUSA is the mainline. PCA is the usually beyond-the-pale icky conservative (no women pastors) one. By publishing French the Times is telling itself (or more to the point their readers) that they’re bending over backwards to reach out to even the most unreconstructed of the hoi polloi.

It follows naturally that anyone who disagrees with French must be really beyond the pale. And like the hall monitor he is French milks it for all he’s worth. The Times will give up this game when they have to and not before. It’s been very good for them.

Most important thing to understand about French is that he’s a JAG and the two American institutions with the most outsized power relative to their constitutional role are the military and the bar and thus they attract those attracted to that power (and have over time been corrupted from the top down by them).

Bottom line: whatever the genetic/cultural mix, something can be done about the culture.

Hmmm. Maybe you’re for bringing back Jim Crow style segregation?

Think of Blacks and non-Blacks in the United States as like college roommates. One roommate (Blacks) are extremely violent and often physically threaten and attack the other roommate (non-Blacks). Should the two roommates separate, or should the campus (Federal) authorities force the roommates to live together even though there is ongoing danger to the non-Black roommate?

Dan Bongino said on his show once that he is half-Italian and half-Irish.

• Agree: Adam Smith

They do this because it works.

Kinda like how yelling “anti-semite” at someone is a blunt force way of never having to address inconvenient questions while protecting the salary, power, and privilege they possess, etc…

Sticks and stones.
Maybe it’s time people stop being afraid of being called names.

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You seem to imagine a lot of kids conceived by cheating wives. I’ve seen you bring this up in many contexts. It’s actually extremely rare. Might happen more often where you live, but it’s still basically a bad Hollywood plot. A more common situation is a young single woman gets pregnant and doesn’t want to tell the kid the truth so makes up some bogus story. Sometimes she meets a new guy who will pretend to be the real father.

… the nonstop emphasis on redlining and Emmett Till.

Fulminations about redlining are as likely to disappear as fulminations about the so-called holocaust. Like the latter, the former is founded on a frontal assault on truth—the specific truth being that those who made the loan and mortgage decisions that are now reflexively denounced as racist were, far more often than not, acting on the basis of reliable evidence of the moral or maturational irresponsibility or, in all too many instances, the demonstrable criminality of the black people who were “redlined.” Since no one has yet figured out a way to eradicate the taste for truth that a small but hard core of human beings persists in indulging, a high ambient moral noise level needs to be maintained and regularly monitored.

As for Emmett Till, surely a large part of his attraction for the Sulzberger family, which runs the New York Times, lies in the hope that unceasing repetition of Till’s name will distract black people from recalling anything about the rag’s unstinting advocacy for another guy with a similar three-syllable name: Leo Frank. The Times has for eleven decades been one of the prime proponents of throwing an innocent black guy under history’s bus to protect (or rather concoct) the good name of a degenerate and murderous fellow-Tribesman.

My point is that a black America could have a higher net quality of life and economic security with a reformation of average black culture and society’s expectations for blacks as well. American culture at large has basically signaled since the late 60s that it doesn’t expect the same behavior from blacks as it does for everyone else and the results have been catastrophic for us all. Even people who are below average in ability can still be law-abiding and respectful members of society with the right cultural incentives.

“Just as buildings collapse when you have incompetent architects and engineers, societies collapse when the influencers are pernicious lairs.”

Maybe; but as I recently pointed out, the Soviet Union lasted for 70 years with a much more malevolent enforcement mechanism.

David French draws a salary as a member of the talking heads nomenklatura. They are funded by increasingly far left corporate heads through ad budgets. Why would anyone expect anything different from Vidkun Quisling Junior?

how do they explain, then, bantu west africans quickly rising to the top of a couple sports, after centuries of not being allowed to participate? when they’re suddenly the best boxer, that’s to be expected – inherent talent. but when they can’t accumulate wealth, that’s racism. there’s no good reason at all to think they couldn’t run their own billion dollar hedge fund. something must be stopping them.

well, they’ve always been good at punching and taking a punch, and terrible at building anything or accumulating wealth. the previous 100,000 years of them living in their own lands, under the control of nobody else, shows this to be the case.

like most leftist arguments, positive traits are obvious, endemic to the group, and celebrated. negative traits are caused by pale person racism.

Why no discussion of a 1526 Project? That’s the year Spain first brought African slaves to Spanish Florida, which at the time encompassed all of the current state and parts of coastal Georgia and Alabama. Will CRT ever hammer Hispanics for the first 250 years of African slavery in the Americas? No, because it is an ahistorical mess that is about putting Democrats and Socialists in office and dollars in the pockets of its adherents.

Even the PCA is on the verge of breaking up as it has shifted too liberal for many members’ tastes. French’s membership is a clue why.

Anecdotally, the most conservative churches (those who were faithful enough that they were still meeting illegally during shutdown) have had huge growth thanks to Covid, while the libby ones got hammered in attendance.

Interesting that French believes in “prophecy, tongues, and gifts of healing.” Why then is he a Presbyterian? Is it because Pentecostals are too icky-working class white, while Presbyterians can afford to buy black children as pets?

If a legacy of American enslavement is so terrible, why are present day American blacks doing so much better than their brothers in other countries that didn’t have this legacy? Could it be that slavery’s effects were not entirely detrimental? Could it be that American blacks are the luckiest blacks in the world? As an American Jew, I often consider how fortunate I am that my grandfather was treated so badly in the old country.

I looked up Bongino, he is a great talker, and I saw him chatting with some guy called Geraldo Rivera. I have no idea what Bongino’s ancestral background is, but I somehow have even less idea what Geraldo Rivera’s species is. Is he wearing some sort of comedy mask? Maybe like a false nose, moustache, eyebrows set, you see in children’s cartoons? Also, he came across like a complete idiot.

I first began sniffing some things about French back in around 2015 when he would include in his bio a line heavily implying that he was an Iraqi combat veteran. He wasn’t, of course, but he would phrase it just so (something like, “served in a combat zone” or the like) that, if you knew, you knew that he knew exactly what he was doing.

Let me correct your first sentence so that it’s more honest:

My point is that a black America could have a higher net quality of life and economic security . . . by whites imposing a foreign and unnatural culture on blacks and by constantly enforcing that foreign and unnatural culture via propaganda and intimidation.

You are demanding that blacks act more white. That is condescending and, ultimately, cruel.

What you’re really saying is “Hey, blacks, if you want to live in a white society with all the benefits that this entails, you have to start meeting us halfway because we’re getting pretty sick of your behavior.”

Separation is such a better solution. I know that many people around here find it distasteful, but it’s the right thing for everyone. Let blacks be black.

Even if the spilt is 50/50, it’s not really 50/50. Let me explain.

Culture is downstream from biology. Parents can impose an environment on a child, but as that child gets older and enjoys more freedom, he or she will begin to create their own environment via their choice of friends, hobbies, etc., that best fit his or her personality and capabilities.

The same is true for races. Whites can impose an environment on blacks, which will change black behavior, but that environment must be constantly managed at great cost and effort. As soon as blacks get more freedom, they will revert to an environment that better suits them.

Since individuals and races control the creation of their environment and create an environment that suits their biology, that 50/50 split really turns out to be 80/20 or 90/10. The only way is would be 50/50 in the real world is to impose an environment on individuals or races. That can and has happened, but, again, it requires an external force imposing that environment on the individual or race, which can only be so long.

And then there’s the question of whether it’s right to impose an unnatural environment on others.

Perhaps the kinder (and more natural) solution is separation.

With that tweet, French kind of threw away whatever credibility he had as “The Defender of Free Debate™” he tried to pass himself off as, in his recent Times CRT column. Not that anybody who agreed with him will notice.

Sanctimonious hypocrite. Old story.

How have gays fallen? They just had a month and a half anal celebration by all the megacorps. So far as I know there’s no brown and black mandatory corporate logos for February yet.

Well considering that Hamtramck is the largest polack collection outside Poland, one could certainly bolster his Haiti argument with Detriot. Maybe I have had it all wrong all these years?

French is a CON INC. sell out — he’s the Washington Generals to the Left’s Harlem Globetrotters — set up to lose while putting a veneer of being oh so civil about it — Buckley was of much the same use — a CIA Globalist “Elite” sent in to mislead the rubes as to being “on their side” while helping sell them down the river — its how the “Elite” play the game — the majority of the country don’t agree to what has been and what is being hoaked over on us — so types like French are used to get over on that, how to put it? He’s a first class creep….

Affluenza. Fortunately, it is self-curing.

“confused”? Is that what they call those pretending to be what they are not and selling out others for $$$?

Just as all the African countries like South Africa that were forced by “Elites” to be given over are now basically unlivable….

This. Deep down it’s a weird power fantasy where white people still believe they’re the most powerful and influential. “You can’t be racists against whites because they have the power” is actually a brag and another way of saying “whites are superior therefore you can never offend or harm them”, but it’s of course been weaponized to cause real harm.

Why does French’s Wikipedia page (the very first sentence) say that he is a “former attorney”?

Perhaps because he no longer pays the licensing fee to be a practicing attorney?

There are a fraction of blacks who can integrate, for whom in fact integration is an improvement upon living in a semi-separate black society such as existed up until the 1960s.

120 years ago they were referred to as “The Talented Tenth”.

Short discussion here

https://infogalactic.com/info/The_Talented_Tenth

W.E.B. DuBois had an opinion on this that changed over time, and he became more supportive of “The Guiding Hundredth”. Some discussion here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Talented_Tenth

For example in NYC the next mayor (a black former cop) is ran on a law and order platform so things might get back on track.

I listen to WOR’s Mark Simone Show, which comes out of New York. Simone reports that that black former cop, Eric Adams, who will probably be the Democratic mayoral candidate and thus the next mayor, cannot be counted on to deliver on his promises. While he shrewdly staked out a pro-law-and -order campaign, he has a history of being critical of the police, opposing the successful “stop, question, and frisk” policy, and last summer was supporting BLM. Cops who knew him in the NYPD don’t trust him and he is rumored to be corrupt.

One can hope he’s changed his ways, but when I hear him speak I get that black hustler vibe.

I don’t know that he’s specifically pentacostalist. He did grow up in an evangelical subculture. He was a public interest lawyer for about a decade, working for the Alliance Defending Freedom. He has not, AFAICT ever worked for an ordinary law firm. He quit practicing about 15 years ago bar the one year he was employed as a JAG. IIRC, he remains a member of the Kentucky bar, but lives in Tennessee 100 miles from any town in Kentucky. He was for a number of years paid handsome sums by National Review and his current venture presumably put him on the patronage of someone like Pierre Omidyar. The remarks he and Douthat have been making of late reveal they’ve both been put on a short leash. Ditto National Review, which recently replaced Richard Lowry and Charles CW Cooke with a pair of NeverTrump diehards. Their business model does not include the patronage of actual Republican voters.

I’d be more sympathetic to the family about the abuse they’ve taken from ugly little people if he hadn’t used his adoptive daughter as a prop in the course of impugning the character of other evangelicals. A really unappealing creature he.

Good point.

AceDeuce wrote to me:

McWhorter: “Waaah! See what the mean White People made us do against our will!”

LOL.

That’s really not McWhorter’s point: read the review to which I linked.

Yes, McWhorter blames White liberals (not all Whites) for encouraging Blacks to rely on the state and on White paternalism instead of the Blacks taking responsibility for their own lives. That is as much a matter of telling Blacks to grow up as it is saying that it is basically the fault of (some) Whites.

I’m sure you and just about everyone here agrees that that is a fair attack on White liberals.

” this general tendency of white liberals and even many on the right to rush to the defense of blacks is baffling”

They’ve been reared since early schooldays on a media diet of saintly black people, Bad Racist Whites and the occasional GoodWhite like Atticus Finch. They want to be the hero/ine of the movie that’s playing in their head. The fact that other people wrote the script is neither here nor there to them.

‘Whereas, if they’d only started on moral education,’ said the Director, leading the way towards the door. The students followed him, desperately scribbling as they walked and all the way up in the lift. ‘Moral education, which ought never, in any circumstances, to be rational.‘

….

‘Till at last the child’s mind is these suggestions, and the sum of the suggestions is the child’s mind. And not the child’s mind only. The adult’s mind too–all his life long. The mind that judges and desires and decides–made up of these suggestions. But all these suggestions are our suggestions!’ The Director almost shouted in his triumph.

My grandfather earned a Bronze Star for actions on Guadalcanal

He probably earned with Bronze Star with V, for valor. That is a higher level than an ordinary Bronze Star, which French says he was awarded. In WW II even those were sparingly awarded, but today the army is more generous.

Jenner Ickham Errican wrote to me:

Hmmm. Maybe you’re for bringing back Jim Crow style segregation?

I’m for freedom of association, which is violated both by Jim Crow and by forced integration.

The Blacks I have known personally, fellow students at Caltech, fellow engineers, etc., were great guys, though of course not a random sampling of Black Americans.

And that’s the point: freedom of association means I do not have to deal with a randmo sampling of any group. I can pick and choose.

It’s called liberty.

More pertinent is that African Americans’ ancestors were on the losing side of slavery versus freedom before they ever left the mother continent. The only outcomes for them were a) remain as slaves/concubines for whatever tribal leader captured them in the first place, b) human sacrifice if captured in the kingdom of Dahomey, or c) transport to the New World.

For option C, being send to North America provided far better odds of dying of old age than the Caribbean or South America. So out of a variety of unpalatable outcomes, one could argue the best possible was ending up here. I understand the anger/humiliation of this kind of ancestry, but when it comes to possibilities for a conquered people, you could do a whole lot worse.

French is the Achmed Chalabi of the American people, reassuring the Shock and Awe crew that they’ll be greeted as liberators if only they’ll make him and his viziers over his erstwhile countrymen.

Citizen of a Silly Country wrote to me:

The whole Nature/Nurture debate always seems to forget that culture is downstream from biology, i.e. the nurture will eventually reflect the nature unless artificially imposed.

It’s just not that simple.

I have seen dramatic changes in a whole lot of aspects of White culture that have occurred over a decade or less, far too little time for it to be due to genetic changes. Lots of causes — pseudo-Freudian nonsense (that would have appalled Freud!), pseudo-Marxism, crtical theory, just laziness due to increased American wealth, etc.

CSC also wrote:

Would white kids do better at school if they acted more like Asian kids? Sure. But they’d be miserable. White kids on average don’t like to grind day after day. It’s not our natural state.

My Puritan ancestors did “act like Asians.” Even my own grandfathers, both of whom I knew well, acted a lot more like Asians than most White kids today.

CSC also wrote:

Now, if white culture lead by whites pushed white kids to be better, that’s a different story.

It would help everyone. The Amys (Wax and Chua) are simply correct: certain cultures make it possible to create and sustain an affluent society; other cultures do not.

That needs to become the conventional wisdom, simply because it is true.

It would make everyone better off.

I don’t see any possibility of that happening, so the only options are exert social pressure to modify behavior or don’t and live with a disproportionately dysfunctional subset of the population in perpetuity.

I have some hope that the former will happen on some level in the future as whites recede and Latinos and Asians make up more of the country. A lot of black behavior is reaction against the presence of whites and taking advantage of white guilt. Changing demography will mean a much smaller share of the population feels like it’s OK to put black political and economic interests ahead of their own, and the culture will change accordingly. The question is whether black leaders decide they want to try and fight that or take a more accommodationist stance.

Because of White people have collective interests. Because White people, as a group, exist. Because some kind of White identity makes sense.

Those guys aren’t really the same.

Brooks is a pure neoliberal and has nothing to do with conservatism.

David French did some good religious liberty work once upon a time (which is partly why I’m ambivalent about the guy), but he’s getting increasingly annoying. I don’t find his writing interesting. He’s not a staff writer for the NYT though, he just did a one-off op-ed.

Douthat is good, he’s the only NYT writer that I read. No, he’s not a reliably partisan Republican, he’s not a political operative and not going to change the world, but he’s a social commentator who’s communicating religious conservative values to the NYT audience, and doing it well, in a way that’s relevant and erudite.

Lowry himself hired the explicitly anti-American Alberta and Costa. Costa was the one who delivered the mendacious (“dark and divisive”) hit on Trump’s rousing Rushmore speech at the height of the fake Colors of Raytheon revolution just after the Siege of the White House.

Costa’s background is American Studies.

American Studies : Americans :: Whiteness Studies : Whites

I’m for freedom of association, which is violated both by Jim Crow and by forced integration.

“Freedom of association” is also violated by the existence of jails, prisons, and sex-segregated bathrooms and sports teams/events. Are you against those also?

This Lovecraftian horror is actually true. I have seen terrifying photographs. Haiiti had a significant minority of German landowners and Polish peasants, I believe post-revolution. The Poles who survive are visibly mixed and degenerated.

Indulgence in crack and gangsta rap is a phenotypic expression of hereditary alleles.

How would you explain such “music”s popularity among, and even imitation/adaptation/appropriation by whites, Asians and other non-blacks?

Anyway, let me point out that if the Legacy of Slavery/Jim Crow was the overwhelming cause of racial gaps in 2021, we’d see them steadily diminishing as the Bad Old Days disappear further into the past. But, for most measures, we don’t see steady progress.

Just last December liberal political scientist Robert Putnam (of “diversity” study fame) co-authored a piece in The New York Times documenting how many of the 20th century trends toward racial equity progress took place in the Bad Old Days of Jim Crow—then stopped or even reversed after the soi-disant “Civil Rights Movement” of the 1960s… How is this explained by the 1619-1964 Legacy theory..?

Why did racial gaps that were closing in the age of what David French calls “violently-enforced state discrimination” instead start widening AFTER the 1964 Civil Rights Act?

(This is even the case with NYT counting as “progress” White decline closer to Black levels—e.g. declining life expectancy—rather than Blacks improving to White levels.)

http://archive.today/2020.12.04-183037/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/04/opinion/race-american-history.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Why Did Racial Progress Stall in America?
By Shaylyn Romney Garrett and Robert D. Putnam
Dec. 4, 2020

In terms of material well-being, Black Americans were moving toward parity with white Americans well before the victories of the civil rights era. What’s more, after the passage of civil rights legislation, those trends toward racial parity slowed, stopped and even reversed…

In measure after measure, positive change for Black Americans was actually faster in the decades before the civil rights revolution than in the decades after. For example,

* The life expectancy gap between Black and white Americans narrowed most rapidly between about 1905 and 1947, after which the rate of improvement was much more modest. And by 1995 the life expectancy ratio was the same as it had been in 1961. There has been some progress in the ensuing two decades, but this is due in part to an increase in premature deaths among working-class whites.


* The Black/white ratio of high school completion improved dramatically between the 1940s and the early 1970s, after which it slowed, never reaching parity. College completion followed the same trajectory until 1970, then sharply reversed.


* Racial integration in K-12 education at the national level began much earlier than is often believed. It accelerated sharply in the wake of the 1954 Supreme Court decision, Brown v. Board of Education. But this trend leveled off in the early 1970s, followed by a modest trend toward resegregation.


* Income by race converged at the greatest rate between 1940 and 1970. However, as of 2018, Black/white income disparities were almost exactly the same as they were in 1968, 50 years earlier. Even taking into account the emergence of the Black middle class, Black Americans on the whole have experienced flat or downward mobility in recent decades.


* The racial gap in homeownership steadily narrowed between 1900 and 1970, then stagnated, then reversed. The racial wealth gap is now growing as Black homeownership plummets.


* Long-run data on national trends in voting by race is patchy, but the South saw a dramatic increase in Black voter registration between 1940 and 1970, followed by decline and stagnation.
What data we have on national Black voter turnout indicate that nearly all of the gains toward equality with white voter turnout occurred between 1952 and 1964, before the Voting Rights Act passed, then almost entirely halted for the rest of the century.


These data reveal a too-slow but unmistakable climb toward racial parity throughout most of the century that begins to flatline around 1970 — a picture quite unlike the hockey stick of historical shorthand.

Another big violater of freedom of association is national borders. Are you against those?

So literally and littorally then?

Yeah remote worship is pretty much the perfect gnostic trap. Hard to get those people back whatever happens with COVID. On the other hand the whole point of worship services is the Incarnate the Word so those who risked something to do that will feel the effects all the more viscerally, and manifest that in their lives.

None too soon.

George R.R. Martin’s paternal grandmother was married at the time of her infidelity:

Finding Your Roots Season 5: George R. R. Martin Clip

George R.R. Martin Learns About His Jewish Roots (From PBS’s ‘Finding Your Roots’)

Why then is he a Presbyterian?

Predestination.

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