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During this decade’s still-ongoing “racial reckoning,” assaults by university administrations on the academic freedom of tenured professors have gotten ever more blatant. Beside the Amy Wax case at Penn, Charles Negy was fired from his tenured post at the University of Central Florida for retweeting my Taki’s column from the first week of the Mostly Peaceful Protests in which I concluded:

Instead, the Establishment views blacks as our Sacred Cows, above criticism, but beneath agency.

An arbitrator later reinstated Professor Negy.

And Cleveland State fired tenured professor Bryan Pesta after he co-authored a breakthrough study of one of the oldest and most controversial questions in psychology: Is the racial gap in IQ between whites and blacks narrower on average among self-identifying blacks with more white genes?

Pesta has now filed a lawsuit against Cleveland State, and let’s just say, he doesn’t pussyfoot around or rely on a lot of legal technicalities, but instead calls out the huge issues raised by his case:

Case: 1:23-cv-00546 Doc #: 1 Filed: 03/16/23 1 of 38. PageID #: 1
IN THE U.S. DISTRICT COURT FOR THE NORTHERN DISTRICT OF OHIO EASTERN DIVISION

BRYAN J. PESTA,
– against –
CLEVELAND STATE UNIVERSITY,
LAURA BLOOMBERG, HARLAN M. SANDS, BENJAMIN WARD, CHRISTOPHER MALLETT, CONOR McLENNAN, and WENDY REGOECZI, in their individual and official capacities;
Defendants. …

COMPLAINT FOR MONEY DAMAGES AND DECLARATORY AND INJUNCTIVE RELIEF

1) This case presents claims based on the Defendants’ violation of Dr. Pesta’s First Amendment rights to academic freedom, freedom of speech, and freedom of association.

2) It involves a flagrant violation of First Amendment rights in the heart of an institution which by its very nature is supposed to be “peculiarly the marketplace of ideas.” Instead of that marketplace of ideas, Defendants herein threw a “pall of orthodoxy” over speech which is both controversial and critical of government policy.

… FACTUAL BACKGROUND

14) Dr. Pesta holds a Ph.D. in psychology from the University of Akron; an undergraduate and master’s degree in psychology from CSU, and a master’s degree in human resource management and labor relations, also from CSU.

15) For over 36 years, from 1986 until March 4, 2022, Pesta was associated with Defendant CSU, first as a student, and then later as a faculty member for well over two decades.

16) Dr. Pesta was granted tenure at CSU in 2010, and promotion to full professor in 2016.

17) Indeed, Dr Pesta was, at the time of the events herein, not only a tenured full professor, but he was also the most senior member of his department, with excellent student evaluations.

18) As a psychologist, Dr. Pesta has conducted research and published peer-reviewed papers on the subject of human intelligence (IQ).

19) Some of Dr. Pesta’s research has focused on questions relating to the hereditability [heritability?] of IQ—the extent to which individual differences in human intelligence can be attributed to either genetics, environmental factors, or both.

20) This area of research is well founded, with IQ in particular being one of the most rigorously investigated metrics in psychology, and with racial differences in average IQ being well documented for over one hundred years.

21) Indeed, among the most replicated findings in social science is that the mean IQ of American Blacks (M = 85) lies about one standard deviation below the mean IQ of American Whites (M = 100). We note that these are averages and say nothing necessarily about any given man’s IQ, whether he is White or Black.

22) Nevertheless, in the field of statistics, a one standard deviation difference between two groups is widely accepted as being “very large.”

23) Moreover, the average IQ difference here between Blacks and Whites is unfortunately stubborn and has persisted in the research literature for well over one century.

24) In various research articles, Pesta and colleagues have shown that these gaps correlate strongly with critically important life outcomes, such as income and education levels, propensity to engage in criminal activities, and even a person’s levels of health and overall well-being.

25) But despite (a) the gravity of race / IQ gaps, (b) the critically important consequences that they predict, and (c) a century’s worth of research, their cause(s) remain unknown.

26) And yet researching and discussing the cause of the gaps is difficult in part because controversy is generated by even asking questions about this subject.

27) Indeed, controversy has so consistently followed inquiry in the area of race, genetics and intelligence that many psychometricians have recognized that phenomenon with a shorthand term – to wit, the “Gould Effect” which refers to the deliberate “controversialization” of intelligence research, which then chills not only the specific subject of race, genes and intelligence, but also more generally the willingness of writers to tackle even less controversial issues related to intelligence research, such as those related to behavior genetics in general.

28) Thus, the causes of racial gaps in IQ have been controversial for decades.

29) However, in the last 15 years or so the whole-genome revolution (driven by the advent of low-cost DNA testing) has made it possible to do scientifically compelling tests on this topic.

30) Dr. Pesta’s research, which resulted in the paper referred to below as “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” (a/k/a “Lasker et al. 2019”), was the first to do so with a large sample size (over 9,421 subjects) of excellent data provided by the National Institute of Health.

This 2019 study used the excellent Philadelphia Neurodevelopmental Cohort database. I later wrote about a second, quite similar study of racial ancestry admixture and IQ conducted upon the nationally representative Adolescent Brain Cognitive Development (ABCD) database that replicated the first study’s findings. My 2021 write-up in Taki’s MagazineA Matter of Tone” is likely the easiest introduction to these landmark but intellectually challenging admixture studies.

For generations, it has been understood that the debate over the causes of the racial gaps in average intelligence — Is the cause solely Nurture or is it both Nature and Nurture? — could be advanced dramatically by reliable admixture studies. In the mid-20th Century, both sides offered conflicting admixture studies, but the methodologies for inferring genetic admixture, such as measuring skin color, were obviously dubiously crude.

Now, we are past all those hindrances. We now have more than one representative database of 10,000 individuals such as the PND and ABCD for whom we have their self-identified race/ethnicity, their complete genome scans, detailed socio-economic status data, extensive cognitive tests, and even brain scans.

31) It was the first known study using actual DNA samples (as opposed to measures utilized in the past, such as estimates of probable genetic material inferred from family relationships) while also controlling for the socio-cultural “baggage” of self-identified race.

32) Indeed, “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” (a/k/a “Lasker et al. 2019”) might rightfully be regarded as landmark study for several objective reasons:

a) First, an entity called “Altmetric (www.altmetric.com”) evaluates articles (across all of science) and ranks them on how impactful they are. The Lasker et al. paper scores in the 99th percentile for “High Attention,” and in the 95th percentile for all research outputs that Altmetric tracks, across disciplines in both “hard” (e.g., chemistry) and social science (e.g., psychology).

b) Second, the journal that published Lasker et al. (Psych) reports that the article has been individually viewed by 53,174 persons to date. This count represents the most in the journal’s history.

c) Third, Google Scholar reports that the Lasker et al. paper has already been cited 25 times, further illustrating the paper’s relative impact and importance.

33) Like all science, Dr. Pesta’s research is not the last word on the topic, but it is far more sophisticated and revealing than previous research and should be seen as a landmark of sorts. Instead of being greeted as an academic landmark, Dr. Pesta’s research has been the occasion for violations of academic freedom and First Amendment outrages.

34) Pesta’s research and publishing herein constitute attempts to communicate his views about a public matter.

35) Furthermore, Pesta’s research herein contains premises which challenge those of powerful government policies.

36) On August 30, 2019, Dr. Pesta (along with three other individuals) caused to be published an article entitled “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” (a/k/a “Lasker et al. 2019”) in the peer reviewed journal Psych. A true and accurate copy of “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” is attached hereto as Exhibit 1.

37) “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” proved controversial.

38) “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” proved to be controversial because it openly included data showing that European American (EA) and African American (AA) populations differ in mean general cognitive ability (or general intelligence, “g”) by about one standard deviation—a fact which has long been established among expert psychometricians, but one which has nevertheless been interdicted by powerful taboos, such as those related to the “Gould Effect.”

39) More controversial still, “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” cited earlier studies showing reasonably strong evidence that genetics played a role in the mean differences in general intelligence between White and Black Americans, and concluded that the data supported those earlier studies, viz.:
“Rushton and Jensen[9] called for modern genetic studies to test the hereditarian model. They predicted that ‘for those Black individuals who possess more White genes, their physical, behavioral, and other characteristics will approach those of Whites ([9], p. 262). In the present study, we confirmed that this was the case for general cognitive ability. Moreover, we showed that the association between European ancestry and g was substantially mediated by eduPGS [a genetic estimate of IQ] rather than skin color PGS. These results provide support for a hereditarian model…

“…We found that European ancestry was a consistent predictor of cognitive ability, even after entering various controls into our models.” Exhibit 1, pdf. p. 23 “4.4. General Conclusion.”

40) These premises conflict directly with those which underly the civil rights policies of the government at all levels, which civil rights policies are based on the premise that the observable differences between Blacks and Whites in general intelligence are due primarily or even exclusively to environmental factors.

… 53) There is thus a direct conflict between the speech of Dr. Pesta and powerful government policies.

54) Yet criticism of government and government policy is not simply a right, but even a duty in our constitutional order.

55) Furthermore, criticism of government actors and government policy is at the very core of the First Amendment.

56) Consideration of Dr. Pesta’s point of view is necessary if we would uphold the fundamental First Amendment right of canvassing public men and public measures and maintaining (in Madison’s words) “the censorial power” of “the people over the Government, and not in the Government over the people.”

57) Furthermore, government policies tend to generate both vested interests and even taboos, and the civil rights policies of our government are no exception.

58) Open discussion of race is confined by powerful taboos – the very opposite of the “uninhibited, robust, and wide-open debate” our First Amendment supposedly fosters.

59) Notable examples of the taboo at work in popular culture go back decades and include … Professor Amy Wax at University of Pennsylvania’s Carey Law School, who had, for several years prior to the incident herein, incurred censure and harassment from the UPenn Dean and Administration over her remarks concerning race and intelligence.

62) Upon information and belief, these and similar incidents were known and understood by the hierarchy at CSU at the time of the events herein, including President Sands, Provost Bloomberg, and others, including Dr. Benjamin Ward, Dr. Christopher Mallett, Dr. Conor McLennan, and Dr. Wendy Regoeczi.

63) Thus, the controversial nature of openly discussing intelligence differences among the races and the evidence for an innate or genetic explanation for such differences was well known to the above individuals.

64) Turning back to Dr. Pesta’s controversy, in response to “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability,” individuals from both inside and outside of the CSU community claimed said article was “racist,” and launched a campaign to have him fired over the said article.

65) Four such individuals who complained to CSU are Dr. Jedidiah Carlson, Dr. Cathryn Townsend, Kevin Bird, and Os Keyes.

… 104) Indeed, on September 30, 2021, Kevin Bird and his colleagues repeatedly acknowledged that there is in fact a “racial IQ gap,” but made clear to the CSU agents that what they took issue with was any probing of the point of view that such “racial IQ gap” was caused by genetic as opposed to environmental factors, e.g.:
“something like the hereditarian hypothesis, kind of a long-standing racist theory, would probably not be within their purview of ethical research.”

… 105) Kevin Bird and colleagues made clear that they wanted no testing of “the hereditarian hypothesis” of “the racial IQ gap,” meaning that they expected CSU to throw a “pall of orthodoxy” over this subject.

… 132) By decision dated January 13, 2022, which was effected March 4, 2022, Provost Bloomberg accepted the recommendation of the said committee and terminated Dr. Pesta’s employment at CSU.

… 135) In taking such action, Provost Bloomberg knew that she was taking part in viewpoint discrimination, which she understood was an egregious First Amendment violation.

136) President Sands was aware of the actions taken against Dr. Pesta, as he had been monitoring Dr. Pesta’s situation at least since October 7, 2020, when he received two letters from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) sent on behalf of Dr. Pesta, which defended Pesta’s First Amendment rights with respect to the controversy being instigated by the likes of Pesta’s would be censors over “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability.” ….

175) Moreover, in Pesta’s case, the anti-intellectual forces have progressed (or declined) from an atmosphere of suspicion to outright persecution, which now holds sway at CSU.

176) What is at stake is not simply Pesta’s point of view, but the viability of all scholarship and education in this field at CSU, and likely elsewhere.

… 186) Accordingly, Pesta seeks a declaratory judgment:

a) Declaring that the hereditarian hypothesis into the long-standing racial gap in IQ is worthy of study, but is presently under assault for reasons wholly removed from valid scientific criteria; and

b) Declaring that to those, like Pesta, who advance a hereditarian hypothesis in the study of race, genetics, and intelligence are entitled to academic freedom; and

c) Declaring that CSU in particular must extend full academic freedom to any, such as Pesta, who advance a hereditarian hypothesis in the study of race, genetics, and intelligence; …

Dated:
Goshen, New York March 16, 2023
Respectfully submitted,
Frederick C. Kelly, Esq.

 
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  1. SFG says:

    If it gets to the Supremes, he might win.

    Good luck, Dr. Pesta.

    • Replies: @Prester John
  2. Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:

    Monkey-Scopes Trial 2023!!

  3. Franz says:

    Why are Old Stock Americans consistently AWOL on this issue?

    The names of the guys fighting back: Pesta is usually Czech and Negy is rarely not Hungarian.

    My guess, correct me if it isn’t so, is that Americans who have deep roots are either too cynical on this issue or have an escape plan that they are wisely keeping mum about.

  4. The Left (including most of the right) have been dishonest in their race realist denial. James Watson got destroyed for some true remarks. #TrueSpeech about #HateFacts is taboo

    @Isteve, are you aware that MSM main stream media have the DUTY to cover up black crime, enshrined in written media ethics codes? If you are aware, why don’t you denounce, oppose, and assail it? Social acceptance and mandatory requirement of lying by omission, that is the root cause for all PC brainwashing.

    https://sincerity.net/stylebooks/

    August 11, 1946: The [New York] Times introduced an “editorial change announcing they will no longer refer to the race of persons suspected of a crime unless race is relevant to the story” 1.

    https://sincerity.net/media-codes-international/

    Dozens of countries have followed the New York Times’ suit and enacted regulations that shun and prohibit true speech in news media: Spain, Russia, Serbia, Finland, Hungary, Switzerland, Belarus, Pakistan, … 62 years of systematic mandatory1 omission of true information spread world wide in media codes, police reports2, silence about interracial school bullying and rape3, sciences 4, and more. In Part 1: Media Speech Codes #1: USA, Canada, Germany. we outlined some of the beginnings.

  5. Temple says:

    When there’s no other food around, even the sacred cows will be eaten

    • Replies: @Legba
  6. “Dr. Pesta holds a Ph.D. in psychology from the University of Akron; an undergraduate and master’s degree in psychology from CSU, and a master’s degree in human resource management and labor relations”

    Not sure how that helps his case, but good luck to him anyway.

  7. Batman says:

    Second, the journal that published Lasker et al. (Psych) reports that the article has been individually viewed by 53,174 persons to date. This count represents the most in the journal’s history.

    The most important paper in the history of an academic journal has only been accessed by about 50,000 people (i.e. not read, just accessed). That’s 0.45% of the reach of Joe Rogan smoking weed and watching MMA highlights with Brendan Schaub. Really puts things in perspective.

  8. I remember exactly where I was (not one of my usual spots) when I wrote this comment 3.8 months ago. I was not happy with this guy’s attempt so plead “non-racist”.

    I am very glad to see this guy is not “pussyfooting around” in his legal case. As far as I’m concerned, after the usual legal mumbo-jumbo that must be said, points (14) through (17) are all that OUGHT TO be required to make the case.

    It’s time to get back to principles: Dr. Petra had every right to say anything and publish anything about ANYTHING he damn well wanted to. PERIOD! The plaintiff rests.

    • Agree: Big P
    • Replies: @Vito Klein
  9. I’ll bet they never dreamt that lawfare could one day be turned around and used against them. Should be fun.

  10. @Achmed E. Newman

    when I wrote this comment 3.8 months ago.

    LOL, as someone who appreciates quirkiness, I applaud your expression of time in tenths of a month.

    Now do days of the year in degrees.

    Btw, I also noticed the narrowness of the pleading, and wondered about the purpose.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  11. Rooster16 says:

    Of all the lies, this is the big one. They’re scared to death of people realizing we’re not all the same, and having scientific data to back it up. To admit this would crumble the narrative of lies they’ve created over the past 75 years. Imagine all the money, time, energy that has been spent on promoting this falsehood and keeping it afloat. Think of what we could have created as a Nation focusing that ingenuity on things that really matter! We would have colonized Mars by now! But no, instead of focusing on the outer limits of what humanity could achieve, we instead were dragged down and forced to try to bring the feces species out of the muddy depths. To all those who have pushed the lie, benefitted from the lie, and believed the lie… I hope you burn in hell.

    • Agree: Meretricious
    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
  12. @Batman

    It’s a cognitively challenging paper. I worked really hard explaining the follow-up study in somewhat more readable prose that might be readable down to the 97th or 98th percentile of the Bell Curve.

  13. Steve, I know you called out a spelling error in brief but I think you should also add a [sic] after “underly” (should be underlie) and “Institute” (should be Institutes)

  14. @Franz

    Old stock American Whites may have too much emotionally invested in the Noble Negro project to ever give up on it.

    • Agree: Franz
    • Replies: @Anonymous
  15. @Vito Klein

    That was purely an Unzism, Vito. He’s the quirk, but we knew that, haha!

    His software gives the time/date of comments in actual absolute form, but also in hours since, days since, and months since, to one decimal place. (Years too, I would expect.)

  16. HFR says:
    @Franz

    “Negy is rarely not Hungarian.” Nagy is definitely a Hungarian name (e.g. Nagy Imre) and also a word meaning large or big. But Negy is not a Hungarian name and if it has an accent over the “e,” it’s the word for the number four.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @Reg Cæsar
    , @Franz
  17. Voltarde says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Have you ever tried this resource?

    Explainpaper
    https://www.explainpaper.com/

    I’ve never got around to trying it; maybe it won’t let itself explain what its developers don’t want you to know about?

    • Thanks: JohnnyWalker123
  18. Good luck to him.

    My bet is that the courts will duck the issue. Easiest thing would be to find in his favor on procedural grounds with a healthy chastizing of his badthink (“although his paper was terrible and wrong on its face, Defendants failed to follow steps xyz”). Alternatively, if he loses at early stage, appellate will uphold with very little, if any commentary.

    Here is to hoping I am wrong

    • Agree: bomag
    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  19. Anon[130] • Disclaimer says:

    Steve, link to the whole complaint? Or can someone grab it from Pacer and put it up somewhere?

    The portion of the complaint reproduced here doesn’t inspire confidence. Too much detail about stuff that shouldn’t be in the complaint, and too many “on information and belief” type speculative gripes. Too long, which annoys judges. And silly injunctive relief requests that aren’t going to happen: stick to money damage requests, big money damages.

    I’d prefer seeing a litany of specific actions by specific people on specific dates with specific precedent cases listed. As written it forces the judge to think “I’ll become the guy who platformed the blacks-are-genetically-stupid theory,” rather than leading the judge to focus on specific facts and their intersection with specific legal precedent.

    Adding guys like Bird to the defendant list is good strategy though, a Peter Thiel move, to publicly financially destroy the small fry as a means of general deterrence … if this goes anywhere, which I have doubts about.

    • Agree: Achmed E. Newman
    • Thanks: ic1000, res
    • Replies: @res
    , @bomag
  20. Thea says:
    @Franz

    The old stock virtually stopped having babies in the 60s so not too many of their descendants walk around today to call this out. The Czechs and Hungarian birthdate also plummeted so we should just be grateful anyone is around to fight this now.

    No future without babies.

  21. @Steve Sailer

    “Cognitively demanding”? What are the technical prerequisites ? Middle school algebra? college algebra and the solution of the CUBIC equation?”

    Seriously the innumeracy or “math-phobia” of otherwise educated American adults is shocking.

    • Replies: @Seneca44
  22. @Rooster16

    Oh, people are all the same.
    In negative ways.

  23. anon[307] • Disclaimer says:

    …could be advanced dramatically by reliable admixture studies.

    dumbass! only if the wypipo who hooked up with negroes were representative of wypipo and vice versa.

    wypipo: slavemasters vs dumpster divers vs [redacted]

    negroes: relatively rich black guys or hypergamous negresses

    i’m convinced steve is 100% congolese at this point. sad.

  24. Twinkie says:
    @Batman

    The most important paper in the history of an academic journal has only been accessed by about 50,000 people (i.e. not read, just accessed). That’s 0.45% of the reach of Joe Rogan smoking weed and watching MMA highlights with Brendan Schaub. Really puts things in perspective.

    I occasionally watch Joe Rogan’s podcast when he has an interesting guest, but that guy is a “bro-science”-touting steroid- and cannabis-abusing imbecile* with waaaaay too much cultural influence. It’s sad that he’s become some kinda symbol of dissidence in this country.

    *Caveat. He is pretty knowledgeable about martial arts (but, again, he touts too much bro-science and gets fixated on hobby horses, like when he claimed Ronda Rousey would beat a male fighter of the same weight).

  25. @Twinkie

    Caveat. He is pretty knowledgeable about martial arts (but, again, he touts too much bro-science and gets fixated on hobby horses, like when he claimed Ronda Rousey would beat a male fighter of the same weight).

    I’ve read that pound for pound, men are 50% stronger. She’d need to be far more skillful.

    • LOL: Gabe Ruth
  26. Genetics says:
    @Franz

    Because Slavs and to an extent Meds are quite behaviorally different from Germanic peoples. Same goes for Balts, Finns, etc.

    Germanic peoples are quite… strange.

    In fact, when people speak of “White people” being woke it isn’t exactly true. You don’t see Slavs or Meds acting this way, it’s a NW European thing (Germanic/Celtic people).

    • Agree: Franz
  27. anon[333] • Disclaimer says:

    The lawsuit seems to be focusing on big picture (is it ok to research and publish on race/iq stuff?), while it appears CSU cited procedural crimes as their pretext why they had to fire Pesta (he used NIH data in ways he never was approved for).

    • Replies: @res
  28. Here’s the deal tho’ , a bitchy academic department can still get back at a rogue professor in many ways. I think this happened to KMac…refusing to let him teach Psych 101, or other basic course. I know it happened at an institution I attended, for totally non political reasons (the professor opined that the level of instruction wasn’t that good, that a degree from the place was more for the name than the added knowledge). Well, his summer courses (needed to help support his young family ) were reassigned, no one would talk to him during department meetings, etc.

  29. By the way, race now exists, at least according to a “diverse” group of black doctors:

    “It has been demonstrated and more recently confirmed9 that a small but appreciable proportion of the genetic differences between any two people (about 15%) reflect divergence between, rather than diversity within, groups defined according to continent of ancestral origin. There is a remarkably strong correlation between a person’s continent of ancestral origin and self-identified race. Thus, we believe that race has both a genetic and a social component. . .

    Ultimately, considering these and numerous other examples, we understand that genetic differences exist between people belonging to different socially constructed racial categories. We embrace this diversity and acknowledge its clinically meaningful implications. These differences can allow researchers to make important advances in health and science, and this recognition is what compels us to do the work we do.”

    https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMms2031080

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
  30. G. Poulin says:
    @Johann Ricke

    She got her ass whipped by a skinny broad. Doubt that she could beat any reasonably skilled male fighter.

    • Replies: @Big P
  31. @Franz

    Pesta is of Hungarian descent, yes.

    • Agree: Franz
  32. @Steve Sailer

    John likes this prose, which is usually an attempt to sneak it past egalitarian/queer review censors. That usually fails, and it doesn’t get changed back to regular English for the publication in MQ.

    • Replies: @res
    , @Anon
  33. J.Ross says:
    @HFR

    Could it not be an Ellis Island mispelling of Nagy? I’m not finding much on it, and one site calls it Pakistani (?!).

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  34. Jon says:

    Tried looking up the attorney online. About all I could find is that he is a 2003 grad of Ave Maria School of Law, was admitted to practice in New York in 2006, and represented Peter Brimelow in his (losing) case against the NY Times. But I did find this amusing – someone registered the frederickkelly.com domain and it shows up as “Frederick C. Kelly, Attorney for White Supremacists” in a Brave search.

  35. @Batman

    The most important paper in the history of an academic journal has only been accessed by about 50,000 people (i.e. not read, just accessed). That’s 0.45% of the reach of Joe Rogan smoking weed and watching MMA highlights with Brendan Schaub. Really puts things in perspective.

    Astute comment! Reminds me of a classic Steve Miller song… “Somebody get me a cheeseburger!”

  36. Seneca44 says:

    186 well reasoned arguments in the legal text. I would hire Frederick Kelly if TBTB ever come after me.

  37. I hope this guy gets his pyhhric victory, but unfortunately, this is like hiring an exterminator, and the guy stomps on a few cock roaches, and then says to the customer … “See that there? You’re already getting your moneys worth!”
    The leftist orthodoxy, and the money well runs too deep, to see the U.S. college system return to any sanity in our life times if ever!
    Just like Hollywood, they’ll burn it all down before they yield any ground. The more money and credibility they bleed, the more they will double down.
    The fact that white males are opting out of college in record numbers, 60/40 female – male ratio, is not at all a concern to them. In fact it’s part of the plan.
    They don’t want them there. In todays world you have to have a college degree to work in corporate America “and what sane white guy would want to,” or yield any political clout.
    Skilled trade guys can still eke out a decent living. But, as a class they will have zero economic or political power. You have to have “real money,” and credentials to even have a seat at the table.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @Joe Schmoe
  38. Seneca44 says:
    @Franz Liszt von Raiding

    As a 64 year old native born American, I can say with a great deal of certainty that about 90% of American adults have no fluency in any form of Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry or any advanced math study beyond addition, subtraction and sometimes multiplication and division.

    • Replies: @Alice in Wonderland
  39. @HFR

    “Negy is rarely not Hungarian.” Nagy is definitely a Hungarian name…

    But he’s Hispanic. Is he a Hungarican?

    As for Negy/Nagy, it’s common for immigrants to the New World to make slight alterations so the new neighbors can pronounce the name with little effort– e.g., Nemeth/Namath. Černak becomes Chernak. Swedes did this a lot, which is why Johnsons outnumber Smiths in the North Country.

    • Replies: @SFG
  40. ic1000 says:

    Back in November, Steve linked to ex and perhaps future professor Pesta’s GiveSendGo page. He’s raised $10,000 to date, not exactly a princely sum when it comes to living and legal expenses.

    Based on the woke tilt of alumni-mailing materials, my alma mater would be all-in on Pesta’s defenestration, so I redirected funds.

    • Replies: @Alden
  41. That’s why they can’t allow free speech.
    There’s nothing more powerful than a reasonable argument.
    And this guy presents one.

  42. SFG says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Heh. Not Wisconsin, eh?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  43. res says:
    @Anon

    I see you mentioned Pacer. Here is the direct link.
    https://www.pacermonitor.com/public/case/48160043/Pesta_v_Cleveland_State_University_et_al

    P.S. How common is it for lawyers to have a Pacer account?

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  44. @couch scientist

    They may just simply revert to 1700’s definitions of Slander: Truth is no defense.

    https://www.mtsu.edu/first-amendment/article/997/libel-and-slander

    Increasingly, we are seeing reversions in the politicized courts manned by Barry the Kenyan’s judges to the justice of prior centuries (mainly pre-enlightenment, of course)

    • Agree: couch scientist
  45. @for-the-record

    For decades race is the first thing screened for in Bone Marrow and Stem Cell donors. Not coincidentally it’s not skin deep or ever bone deep but the core of the bone and stem cells are the core all new growth.
    It doesn’t get any more primal than that.

  46. Hal2 says:

    Prof Pesta has a fundraising page to help with his legal battle!

    https://www.givesendgo.com/G9END

  47. @Twinkie

    Rogan’s redeeming quality, in my eyes (and yours don’t matter of course) is that he quite often asks the verboten questions.
    I can forgive a lot for that.

  48. res says:
    @anon

    The lawsuit seems to be focusing on big picture (is it ok to research and publish on race/iq stuff?), while it appears CSU cited procedural crimes as their pretext why they had to fire Pesta (he used NIH data in ways he never was approved for).

    Good point. Does anyone know more about the original firing rationale and procedure? Any lawyers care to comment on this point?

    This article from The Chronicle of Higher Education has some good background.
    Racial Pseudoscience on the Faculty
    https://archive.ph/YJiOX

    Obviously biased, but I like the conclusion.

    But the afterlife of Pesta’s publications can’t be so neatly quashed.

    As of September 2022, “Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability” was ranked as the Psych article that had been viewed the most in the journal’s history. The site’s metrics say the article has been downloaded 6,835 times.

    If you follow the link be sure to change to “Most Downloaded.” Pesta’s paper is no longer at the top. Here are the current top four.

    29540 Race as Social Construct by Helmuth Nyborg
    17284 Reflections on Sixty-Eight Years of Research on Race and Intelligence by Richard Lynn
    8398 The Intelligence of Biracial Children of U.S. Servicemen in Northeast Asia: Results from Japan by Emil O. W. Kirkegaard, Jordan Lasker and Kenya Kura
    8366 Global Ancestry and Cognitive Ability by Jordan Lasker, Bryan J. Pesta, John G. R. Fuerst and Emil O. W. Kirkegaard

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  49. @SFG

    Johnson is indeed #1 in Wisconsin. Evidently all the many Schmidts there chose to keep that spelling rather than smithing something new as in other states. (Many Carpenters were once Zimmermans.)

    Note that Williams ranks high in states with lots of blacks.

  50. @res

    “Kenya” Kura? Not what you might expect:

    [MORE]

    RationalWiki calls him a “pseudoscientist”, which means he must be a scientist.

  51. Brutusale says:

    OT

    I ran into a local lawyer friend at the local coffee shop, and he spent the school vacation bringing his son, a high honors junior at a local prep school, on college visits. He’s beside himself at the difficulty his kid, a pale redhead like his dad, is going to have getting into the schools he wants to attend. He said some of the admissions people made no bones about their preferred students.

    I had to give him tough love, telling him that RINOs like him are always shocked by the betrayal!

    • Thanks: Houston 1992
    • Replies: @Houston 1992
    , @Reg Cæsar
  52. this was one of the most important studies in the field. one that i had been calling for 20 years ago.

    when random people from different continents have sex and make more humans, we need to know what the heck is going on. doing at least the basic minimum research into this stuff will give us more information about how genes work in general. in psychology it was established 150 years ago, from the time of Phineas Gage, that you try to learn more any reasonable way you can.

    about 15 years ago, Paul Thompson at UCLA identified a specific gene that if any human gets them in a pair, they automatically get a 2 point increase in wechlser ability. that is, whatever the instructions are on those genes they build the brain slightly differently and it’s more capable.

    how widespread are those? do any mixed race people automatically pick that up for free? or is pleiotropy? would Steve’s human version of the proverbial generic standard dog, the dingo, pick up this stuff or would it be washed out? how important or not important might it be that the various humans of the world maintain some minimum level of differentiation. is this idea overblown, or warranted?

    course this might not matter much now that we’re entering the steep curve of AI advancement.

  53. Legba says:
    @Temple

    That sounds good but I’m not sure I agree. I would say the ‘food’ is getting scarce and the cows are still be-bopping along just fine. Or maybe people need to be hungrier.

  54. What good will ever come from proving the IQ gap true? Low IQ is nobody’s fault, but laying it out will only be a public humiliation with no real solution. Worst possible scenario: Whites dragged from their beds by mobs and chopped into bloody bits in the street, a la Haiti 1791. Best possible scenario: endless reparations, which will build resentments to a boil on the white side but might delay the first possibility. Classical liberal ideas about a colorblind meritocracy will never work, and our enlightened elites already know this, and have for a long time. Every racial initiative since 1965 has been an effort to stave off the inevitable.

    Current Wokology is the bleating of addled true believers and others who cannot face the truth, but libertarians equally blind. Exactly how would a constitutional, free meritocracy with a full IQ reveal work?

    The government should pay Northern Asians to emigrate and have kids to up the IQ of the inevitable Brazilian-style mix we are headed for.

    • Replies: @Alden
    , @ic1000
  55. res says:
    @Emil O. W. Kirkegaard

    Thanks for the additional information in this and your previous comment, Emil.

    I noticed that you recently posted on your blog about you, Pesta, and others recently publishing a response to Giangrande and Turkheimer.
    https://emilkirkegaard.dk/en/2023/03/new-paper-on-group-differences-in-the-heritability-of-intelligence-a-reply-to-giangrande-and-turkheimer-2022/

    Worth a read for more background on the continuing conflicts underlying Pesta’s firing.

    Did the timing of this publication have anything to do with the timing of Pesta’s lawsuit? It seems to be a useful piece of evidence in the saga.

    Kevin Bird is really a piece of work.

    P.S. For anyone who does not already know about Emil’s blog, it is a wonderful resource for this and related topics.

  56. If there is anything to be learned from history, it is that academic institutions which promote evident insanity, ultimately- fail.

  57. @Thea

    No future without babies.

    Truer words …

    You’d think this would be pretty much the most obvious–and important–thing in the world. But people–head’s filled with lies and nonsense–can not see it.

    • Agree: Red Pill Angel
  58. @prime noticer

    Is that gene that increases wechlser ability the same one that’s responsible for the loss of capitalization skills at the beginning of sentences? I think identical Siamese twin studies should be undertaken, immediately.

    I know you have a shift key and know how to use it. I’ve seen you do it!

  59. Alden says:
    @Vinnyvette

    The trades have been under the affirmative action jihad since 1962 when minion of Satan USA AG, Robert Kennedy went after the apprenticeship programs.

    How dare the trade unions require that a black applicant be able to read and add and subtract fractions. Let alone compute Pythagorean theorem in his head all day long. Or the most racist requirement. Demonstrate the ability to show up for work and stay till quitting time. By sitting in high school classrooms long enough to graduate. That was the point of the high school grad requirement. That the applicant demonstrated the ability to show up for work and stay at work till the end of the workday. In other words a normal functional person.

    There’s a huge difference between a Hispanic kid who quits high school at 15 to work and learn not one but several useful profitable trades from father and relatives. And a black thug who quits school to sleep till noon and gets up to
    rob steal rape and assault and batter causing great bodily injury.

    • Agree: Vinnyvette
  60. Anon[913] • Disclaimer says:
    @Emil O. W. Kirkegaard

    It was a very dumb idea to harass the defendants on your Twitter.

    You are giving ammo to Kevin Bird et al who has probably saved your tweet.

    Calling the defendants “terrorists” is defamatory. They aren’t committing acts of violence or damaging property in any sense. The FBI definition of terrorist:

    The unlawful use of force or violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a Government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives

    I presume you are also behind the articles on Encylopedia Dramatica attacking one of the defendants?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  61. Franz says:
    @HFR

    Negy is not a Hungarian name and if it has an accent over the “e,” it’s the word for the number four

    This has cropped up before.

    I had an grand-uncle, now deceased, who gave his proper last name as “Kovacs” at Ellis Island, but the guy heard “Kovach” and spelled it out that way.

    He probably could have had it legally corrected but he was okay with it. Thanks to the misspelling, his name was pronounced closer to the European way. Since he was okay with that, he kept it.

    I’m guessing a lot of names at Ellis Island were altered for the same totally innocent reason.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @anonymous
  62. Anonymous[954] • Disclaimer says:

    Meanwhile, disruptive negro students provoke a teacher to quit her job in the middle of class:

    https://www.tiktok.com/@sweet.trashysam.jpeg/video/7206393362763631918?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc&web_id=7211642820466034222

  63. @J.Ross

    Could it not be an Ellis Island mispelling

    Nobody misspelled anything at Ellis Island. Names were copied from the passenger manifests, which were competed before departure overseas.

    So either the maritime ticket agents were filling them out for illiterates, who themselves didn’t know the letters in their names, or the immigrant himself changed it upon arrival, then lied about it to his children.

    • Thanks: Alden
  64. mc23 says:

    I knew people who said their parents or grandparents had their name changed at Ellis Island by the agents to something that was easier to understand and spell. The new immigrants didn’t complain.

    I have co-workers from Eastern Europe, India and Asia. Several of them anglicize their names and I appreciate it, although I am still wondering how you get from Xi to Connie

  65. Alden says:
    @Red Pill Angel

    I don’t agree with you about importing more non Whites. These normal/bright IQ Asians are an even worse threat to Whites as the dumbest S American Indian or American black. And there’s sufficient 110 to 125 IQ White Americans to fill every STEM and MD job. FYI, even unto the 4th generation Asians are totally tribal. And importing more of the just reinforces the tribal favoritism in hiring and treatment of clients and customers. And the incredible corruption genetically programmed into the Asian peoples. From the Asians who immigrate to America for the sole purpose of convenience store EBT fraud to the ones who hire only their own kind once they became managers. Which happens rapidly because they have higher affirmative action status than White lesbian women.

    For instance; ever dealt with an Asian building inspector? Anything, can be approved with the right amount of cash. Ever gone to the passport, IRS building permit, social security or any other government office taken a number and seen the Asian government workers call not numbers but Asian names and take care of Asians while everybody else is ignored? Get off the internet and start actually in real life start dealing with the model minority.

    Few Whites read mandarin Cantonese fukienese or other Chinese languages. If you UNZIAN IQ worshippers could read those languages, you could buy those community newspapers. And read them online if available. And you can read the ads for college and grad school admissions Oracle and other credentials. The ads that say guarantee to pass with a score of at least …,, Yes, taking that course will guarantee a passing score because of very sophisticated methods of cheating,

    Special Eye glasses that enable the wearer to read the letter of the correct answer on multiple choice tests. The numbers and letters on what looks like regular number 2 yellow pencils. But put on the glasses and read # 1 C # 67 B Or more expensive professional test takers.

    The nursing schools and certification agencies are trying to stop all this Asian cheating. Applicants to nursing schools have to submit fingerprints upon admission. Then submit fingerprints for every certification test they take for the rest of their careers. But nursing is still a White woman majority occupation. Still honest.

    Asians Hispanics blacks and sex deviants don’t care about Whites. We shouldn’t fret and fume about them.

    My grandsons and their friends have it right
    . “ White women are at the bottom of the affirmative action totem pole. We, White men aren’t even on the totem pole. We’re buried in the dirt under the totem pole”

    Affirmative action, or hire anything but a White no matter how incapable or dysfunctional has been the law of the land since the summer of 1968. There’s been endless whining about IQ ever since. This is just more of the same. There’s been 1996’s California’s Proposition 209, similar anti affirmative action referendums passed and even several anti affirmative action judicial decisions. None have ever been enforced. None!!!!! And never will be.

    Approximately 520 White men and about 10 to 15 women and minority men elected to the senate and congress enacted the affirmative law in the summer of 1968. In 1973 and 1979 White male minions of Satan on the Supreme Court upheld the affirmative action laws.

    Don’t blame the women and non White beneficiaries. Blame White man presidents Vice Presidents senators congress critters and judges for burying White men in the dirt under the affirmative action totem pole.

    And get off the internet and stop thinking that eventually normal/bright IQ and normal functionality will prevail and White men will eventually be allowed to crawl out from the dirt under the totem pole. Never happen.

    • Replies: @Big P
    , @Red Pill Angel
  66. @Twinkie

    I take “bro-science” to mean when young men try to apply science to improving their lives in fields such as muscle-building or sexual performance. I don’t understand why this is derided. How is it fundamentally different from the mainstream medical establishment’s use of science to promote longevity, or Olympic trainers’ use of science to eke out a round disc of metal every four years? Maybe sometimes these young men get carried away by fads based on studies of low rigor (hello, China Study!) , but for the most part, they just seem like young guys looking for the cutting edge. I think the popularity of Andrew Huberman (who might be described as a Stanford-affiliated popularizer of “high-quality bro science”) indicates a desire for solid information and not just miracle powders to make big pecs.

    Likewise, Rogan’s popularity demonstrates a real desire for thoughtfulness among people who, for various reasons, don’t want to read books themselves or engage with, say, the SF Bay area people who comment on Astral Codex Ten, etc. I personally have two co-workers who have gotten partially red-pilled by listening to Rogan and/or Jimmy Dore.

    Also, something that rarely goes commented on is the way in which these kinds of podcasts create community for people who likely have none. Steve rightly avoids listening to podcasts as a low-bandwidth way of getting info, but he has his family (and commentariat). I think many people watch Rogan because it binds them in some sense with other listeners and provides an escape from the apparent insanity being broadcast through news and other social media and being foisted on people in their workplaces or even in their meatspace friendships and romantic relationships. I was lucky to meet a very sensible Japanese woman, but my previous girlfriend in the USA was a leftist who is, now, undoubtedly, on board with all woke causes. I was with her because of the wasteland that is western dating. If I had stayed with her, podcasts could easily have become my way of establishing that I was not alone in the world.

    Anyway, I don’t begrudge Rogan his millions. Better him than Oprah.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    , @ic1000
    , @Twinkie
  67. Alden says:
    @ic1000

    Don’t mean to be rude. But are you a White man who gives your hard earned money to your alma mater? An institution that hates you and wants you dead and gone. Like every college in America.

    • Replies: @ic1000
  68. @Brutusale

    Give us a follow up later on on what unfolds ….

    • Replies: @Brutusale
  69. @Thea

    If genetics determines our life outcomes ( as per Plomin) then how can environment— short of famine or outright genocide – determine fertility ? Or is the culture war against the fertility of legacy Americans an actual war that over sides all else ? Or do I misunderstand Plomin ?

    • Replies: @Thea
  70. res says:
    @prime noticer

    I think you are talking about the SNP rs10784502 discussed in this paper
    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/232752603_Identification_of_common_variants_associated_with_human_hippocampal_and_intracranial_volumes

    A less technical article about this.
    https://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/04/16/3478267.htm

    More about that SNP here.
    https://www.snpedia.com/index.php/Rs10784502

    The IQ increasing C allele appears to be slightly more common in Nigerians than Europeans. And much less common in East Asians. Interesting.

    This comment of yours makes an excellent point.

    how important or not important might it be that the various humans of the world maintain some minimum level of differentiation. is this idea overblown, or warranted?

    • Replies: @bomag
  71. J.Ross says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    Yes but if they don’t read there’s no helping them. Taleb is right when he says knowledge comes from books, and shorter media are for current events given a good foundation derived from books.

    • Agree: JohnnyWalker123
  72. J.Ross says:
    @Franz

    In Hungarian, “s” following a consonant = “h,” thus “zs” is “zh” and “sz,” because “s” by itself in Hungarian has an inherent “sh” sound, is just “s” and opposite to Slavic “z” following a consonant = “h,” “sz” in West Slavic is “sh” but in Hungarian is just “s;” cf “Czech Republic.” So “cs” as in “Csokolom” is “ch.”

  73. @Johann Ricke

    Rogan might have said that, but Dana White the CEO of the UFC said it for sure, claiming Rousey would defeat Mayweather in an MMA match. You might be getting them confused with each other, they are both balding guys known for being involved in MMA.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  74. @Unladen Swallow

    Rogan might have said that, but Dana White the CEO of the UFC said it for sure, claiming Rousey would defeat Mayweather in an MMA match. You might be getting them confused with each other, they are both balding guys known for being involved in MMA.

    Rousey beat Mayweather? Not even if she were a guy. Dana White has segued into a metaverse where Mayweather is just some schlub off the street and not an undefeated boxing champion.

  75. Big P says:
    @G. Poulin

    Rousey couldn’t even come close to the top 100,000,000 male fighters on the planer.

    Now, we don’t access to such data. But quite simply there are that many men alive who’d easily dispose of rousey, including myself.

  76. Big P says:
    @Alden

    You’re forgetting one huge thing: you’re operating under a premise that can at ANY given time turn this dubious game upside down.

    Underestimating potential energy has always been mankind’s downfall. Both lit and fig, obviously.

    Once the going gets *beyond* tough, the rules/laws of Newton will magically apply to human behavior.

    Then what? What’s this about IQ?

    Would it be appropriate, then, to assume the old adage that reassures joining a clear superior entity in times of survival isn’t exactly abreactive, really:

    “If you can’t beat them, join them”

    In times of survival, the ones who hate others who’re vastly superior to them hasn’t a choice but to instinctively join then.

    Hands forced.

    IQ, notwithstanding

  77. ic1000 says:
    @Alden

    > Don’t mean to be rude. But are you a White man who gives your hard earned money to your alma mater?

    Past tense (gives, that is).

  78. ic1000 says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    > Rogan’s popularity demonstrates a real desire for thoughtfulness among people who, for various reasons, don’t want to read books themselves or engage with, say, [Astral Codex Ten types].

    Kind of OT, but over the last few years my book-reading count has tumbled: I now need glasses and very bright light. Kindle is a partly-satisfactory solution. Podcasts fill another part of the gap. What fraction of Rogan’s audience has a somewhat analogous story?

    • Agree: Red Pill Angel
  79. ic1000 says:
    @Red Pill Angel

    > What good will ever come from proving the IQ gap true?

    • Disagree with your comment, but an important point. Based on (cautious) real-world discussions with (high-IQ) family and friends, most American normies agree with you.

    iSteve denizens are familiar with his Enlightenment-based rebuttal, Knowledge Is Good. See also eppur si muove.

    Returning to the Pesta, Negy, and Wax sagas — one core failure mode that follows directly and inevitably from “Let Sleeping Dogs Lie”/Bad Ideas is Bad Policy. Every iSteve commenter worth reading is familiar with our host’s illustration of this point, hundreds of times over.

    • Replies: @Red Pill Angel
  80. anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    He got fired because his family name ends in a vowel.

    Don’t y’all remember Mario “The Pious” Cuomo claiming that’s what kept him outta the White House?
    The struggle is real!!!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/1986/03/23/vowel-power/4986d313-e3e4-4987-92d3-f4573917dd15/

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  81. Thea says:
    @Houston 1992

    I had never heard of Plomin before. Thank you for that tip.

    I don’t understand how it was so easy to encourage women to embrace the pill and casual sex.

    Peter Turchin wrote about secular cycles that lead to changes in fertility. Apart from famine and war. economic decline caused by population growth often lead to poverty which leads to fewer or later marriages.

    It is a mystery how such a comfortable society could chose to stop breeding and instead invite outsiders to increase population. Maybe Calhoun’s mice study is relevant.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
  82. Brutusale says:
    @Houston 1992

    I would imagine he’ll be going to his father’s alma mater, a solid, private Tier 1 school, just not an Ivy. We’ll see.

  83. bomag says:
    @Anon

    Sound legal advice.

    But they seem to be playing a gambit: argue the case on facts and research results; let the other side argue for lying and suppression.

    It does get the debate out in public. But, as you note, might not be a winning legal strategy.

  84. bomag says:
    @res

    Thanks.

    some minimum level of differentiation

    Yeah, we seem okay with protecting the Andaman islanders; and US Indian reservations are essentially a genetic curation; but otherwise the world seems happy with a continued Bantu expansion and shrinking of European and some Asian expressions.

  85. @Anon

    Are you saying that the individuals aren’t Antifa, or that Antifa aren’t terrorists?

    • Replies: @Anon
  86. @Brutusale

    He’s beside himself at the difficulty his kid, a pale redhead like his dad, is going to have getting into the schools he wants to attend.

    Could be worse. He could have been a daughter. Colleges have way too many of them. To paraphrase Yogi, “Girls don’t want to go there anymore– it’s too female!”

    This kid should go to a trade school for a year or two first. He can still go on to a college degree later, but at least he’ll be employable.

  87. @Reg Cæsar

    “Could be worse. He could have been a daughter. Colleges have way too many of them.”

    Nah, a red-headed white girl would get waved right in. Gotta have plenty of naive indoctrinated shiksas and milky-skinned rape-toys for the Bakkaball-Americans, to keep the victors happy, and provide a convenient focus for the negresses’ otherwise-unfocused all-purpose rage. After all, *somebody’s* hair has to actually be worth touching.

  88. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @Cagey Beast

    Ordinary Old Stock American Whites, acting as individuals, know it’s a waste of time and a losing battle to try to fight against the Environmentally Damaged Noble Victim Negro Myth.
    We know we’ll lose. We’ll lose our jobs; get fired and canceled. Friends will shun us. Sympathizers will avoid us for fear of being found guilty by association. Even some members of our own families will turn against us.
    Most of us aren’t rich enough or or articulate enough to fight this battle alone.
    The Official Narrative, on any subject, is powerful. Most either fall for it or are too fearful to openly defy it.

  89. @SFG

    I hope he does too. You’ll notice that amidst all the talk of “frank conversations” about race whenever the subject of race and IQ comes up the response among Our Betters consists of a lot of handwringing, fluttering hearts and nervous twitters so I don’t know whether this subject will ever, or can ever, be resolved in a courthouse.

  90. Art Deco says:
    @anon

    What kept him out of the White House is that he did not want to run. Cuomo did have a longstanding complaint that he graduated 1st in his law school class in 1958, but white shoe law firms would not interview him.

  91. @Alden

    Excellent points about cultural differences on the Asian side which are undeniable. I have an Asian relative by marriage. Sweet girl, pretty, good mother, smart and works hard, but her parents are natives and take corruption for granted. “Please to conceal diamond rings in a$#hole when going thru customs.” Not a joke. Well, sort of, but not really.

    My projected Brazilian scenario is one possibility; another would be giving American blacks Alabama and maybe fighting over Mississippi, and letting them turn it into the Democratic Republic of Wakanda. It would be worth it to see how fast my my uber liberal family could pack to leave. It will be one or the other, though. There is no Libertarian colorblind future.

  92. @ic1000

    See above comment to Alden. I don’t want the Brazilian racial smoothie future, I just see it coming fast. This morning at Cracker Barrel, I saw two or three rather pretty biracial children, no more than 20% black. They will have the world handed to them on a platter if they have IQ’s above room temp. Yes, “Let sleeping dogs lie” is just a selfish way to push the problem forward another generation; but what would be a workable solution right now aside from open civil war? I can’t think of anything beyond “vote Republican” which isn’t working.

    • Replies: @ic1000
  93. @Twinkie

    I have a son who started listening to Rogan in college. He said he liked him because he introduced his audience to interesting and astute people and let them say whatever they wanted. They weren’t gotcha interviews or curated, or censored, etc.

    It is not that Rogan is so awesome, it’s that most everything else stinks out loud to the point that even ignorant people in their late teens can tell it is near total BS.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  94. @Seneca44

    The main thing most people learn from math classes is that that they can’t do it. People are probably well served by a class in algebra and geometry. But beyond that most of them likely would be better served by classes in applying what they have learned to practical problem solving rather than by higher math classes. Math classes in the US just do not require sufficient practice for even pretty bright students to achieve moderate proficiency. Consider math SAT problems. They just aren’t that hard. With practice, reasonably good students should be able to solve them. And in fact that is just what we see. Students who practice a lot do much better. They don’t do much better on the reading and language section.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
  95. @Vinnyvette

    60/40 female – male ratio

    I think this lopsided distribution just shows the vanity and foolishness of women. Competent white men who can get real degrees still go to college, but lots of incompetent women go and get silly degrees that are largely non-remunerative. Businesses are not going to be hiring whites at the rate of 3 women to 2 men, to say nothing of retaining that many women who quit at higher rates than men do. They only hire as many women as they do because they know there will be punishments if they don’t.

  96. @prime noticer

    Offtopic, I read one of your comments almost two years ago you wrote it. About the death of the movie star and the movie business, and how now straight white males are leaving the film business to get into beer brewing, video games or software.

    Don’t you think a new film industry can spring up in say Nebraska? Movie making isn’t all that difficult or expensive today, and a lot of people would tune in to watch non woke, entertainment. Just watching older westerns on YouTube you’ll read thousands of comments on how the old days were so good, and how today everything is non American, woke, depressing crap.

    Maybe this is an incentive. A capitalist society can spring up anywhere if there’s an industry, kinda like oil in the old South. Movies- and by extension the intellectual domain will never go out of business. Why can’t a new movie business model work in Nebraska or Iowa or Montana? I think it can. People will flock to it.

  97. @Thea

    I don’t understand how it was so easy to encourage women to embrace the pill and casual sex.

    Women embrace anything that the power structure pushes. They seek to curry favor(s). It’s not like they are going to compete for stuff.

  98. Anonymous[272] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    How can one create and access the filings in a particular court case, as you seem to have done here?

    Why aren’t all court filings made available to the public?

    • Replies: @res
  99. Twinkie says:
    @Johann Ricke

    I’ve read that pound for pound, men are 50% stronger. She’d need to be far more skillful.

    A lot of people fixate on upper body strength, but what people don’t realize that much of the strength and explosion necessary for fighting (especially at high levels) come from the core-hip area (esp. the rotational force). And men are much, much stronger than women in this rotational force.

    Rousey could probably beat an untrained male roughly her weight, because her grappling skill ability is many levels higher than such a man, but she would have stood very little chance against even journeyman male fighters much lighter than she.

    I wrote about the topic of females fighting males here: https://www.unz.com/isteve/teachers-and-guns/#comment-2225027

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Anon
  100. Twinkie says:
    @Chrisnonymous

    I take “bro-science” to mean when young men try to apply science to improving their lives in fields such as muscle-building or sexual performance.

    No, that was not what I meant by “bro-science.” Dictionary.com defines it as “a term for misinformation circulated among men, usually body-building claims not backed by science.”

    Now, I did not mean it specifically for body-building and I am not suggesting that Rogan doesn’t bring up scientific evidence, but the so-called evidence he cites in support of his claims are often extremely selective (and jives with Rogan’s priors). When a few guests really challenge his assertions, Rogan tends to get angry. A lot of times, I think the podcasts would be better without Rogan, but with the guests.

    As I wrote before, he sometimes has very interesting guests and occasionally discusses interesting topics, but he himself is given to a lot of hearsay and fake-science. And when he is really pressed with accurate information, he, when not getting angry, tends to retreat to “Ha, ha, I am just an idiot, don’t listen to me.”

    Also, something that rarely goes commented on is the way in which these kinds of podcasts create community for people who likely have none. Steve rightly avoids listening to podcasts as a low-bandwidth way of getting info, but he has his family (and commentariat). I think many people watch Rogan because it binds them in some sense with other listeners and provides an escape from the apparent insanity being broadcast through news and other social media and being foisted on people in their workplaces or even in their meatspace friendships and romantic relationships.

    This is unhealthy. A podcast “community” is not a real community and is not a substitute for the latter either. People need to start re-engaging with real, organic communities (and go back to reading books, too, for that matter). It’s fine to listen to podcasts, especially if it leads to one seeking more information about the particular topic or author later, but putting someone like Rogan on a pedestal and conflating the audience for what is still essentially entertainment is not healthy.

    Anyway, I don’t begrudge Rogan his millions. Better him than Oprah.

    I don’t have a problem with him making as much money as he can. But “better him than Oprah” is a rather low standard.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  101. Twinkie says:
    @Alice in Wonderland

    It is not that Rogan is so awesome, it’s that most everything else stinks out loud to the point that even ignorant people in their late teens can tell it is near total BS.

    And that’s what’s so sad about today’s America. A couple of decades ago, Rogan was just a steroid-abusing comic (and not a very good comic at that) with an interest in martial arts. Now people treat him like he is some sort of a sage just because, as you write, “everything else stinks.”

  102. Anon[295] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    A lot of people fixate on upper body strength, but what people don’t realize that much of the strength and explosion necessary for fighting (especially at high levels) come from the core-hip area (esp. the rotational force). And men are much, much stronger than women in this rotational force.

    I read the comment you linked to. Thank you. What is it exactly that gives men more rotational force than women? Women have abdominal muscles, too, and, presumably, strong ones.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  103. @Twinkie

    This is unhealthy. A podcast “community” is not a real community and is not a substitute for the latter either. People need to start re-engaging with real, organic communities (and go back to reading books, too, for that matter).

    I don’t know about “unhealthy”, but completely agree that it is not a substitute for real organic community.

    Basically, these young men need wives and families in real communities. And that has become harder for them to achieve. Physical American communities are now pretty weak and riddled with the cancer of minoritarian media nonsense. And young women, heads filled with nonsense, narrative compliant are a disaster.

    You’ve got your traditional Catholic community. But it is not easy for the average guy to just snap his fingers and find a place.

    This is a core reason, I think conservatives need to push forward with separation on various levels. One of them–before we get to national separation–is to push for our fundamental right to have our own explicitly conservative physical communities, where a community is allowed to determine not just ordinary self-government (which has been under continuous assault) but who is allowed to move in.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  104. Anon[201] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Emil Kirkegaard is so far-right anyone to the left of him is ‘antifa’ or ‘woke’.

    Eg., he called Cathy Young ‘woke’ despite she opposes critical race theory, affirmative action etc. Laughable.

    These terms the way he uses them are completely meaningless because anyone who doesn’t agree with him (i.e. virtually everyone even right-wing leaning people like Young) is ‘antifa’ or ‘woke’ according to Kirkegaard. Unless you’re a wignat or race and IQ obsessed everyone is an antifa according to him.

  105. res says:
    @Anonymous

    I am not the best person to answer these questions (not a lawyer), but I think starting with the search function at PacerMonitor is worthwhile.
    https://www.pacermonitor.com/search

    For instance, searching for Bryan Pesta there returns the relevant case at the top.

    Once you have the case number from that then try searching for that.

  106. ic1000 says:
    @Red Pill Angel

    As if anticipating your argument against scientific inquiry into important hot-button topics, a post from honest leftist (I don’t repeat myself) Freddie DeBoer was waiting in my inbox.

    DeBoer traces how decades-long failures in educational policy stem from the optimistic but false belief that all children have the seeds of academic greatness within them. Lake Wobegon writ large.

    Education Commentary is Dominated by Optimism Bias

    Other examples abound.

    • Thanks: Red Pill Angel
  107. @Alice in Wonderland

    Consider math SAT problems. They just aren’t that hard. With practice, reasonably good students should be able to solve them. And in fact that is just what we see. Students who practice a lot do much better.

    Yes, math requires practice to stay fluent. I was recently looking at the questions on a math test that you had to pass to place into first year college Calculus. The questions were a mix of algebra, geometry, and trig. Years ago, I knew all the answers, but I struggled answering about half of them on the placement test.

  108. Anonymous[507] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Thank you for popularizing Dr. Pesta’s work. I respect you a lot and I don’t know that anyone questions your intelligence. It doesn’t take more than an 85 iq to understand what Dr. Pesta states in his complaint in paragraph 39.

    You’re coming off cringe alluding to your intelligence for dumbing down Dr. Pesta’s work on the evidence for what everyone knows. Please don’t be a Fredo. There’s no need to say that one is handsome or smart for these are things that only need be said by others to one and not by one.

    Paragraph 39: Moreover, we showed that the association between European ancestry and g was substantially mediated by eduPGS [a genetic estimate of IQ] rather than skin color PGS. These results provide support for a hereditarian model…

    “…We found that European ancestry was a consistent predictor of cognitive ability, even after entering various controls into our models.” Exhibit 1, pdf. p. 23 “4.4. General Conclusion.”

  109. Twinkie says:
    @Anon

    What is it exactly that gives men more rotational force than women? Women have abdominal muscles, too, and, presumably, strong ones.

    Men obviously have bigger muscles, but with the hips, it’s not just the muscles, but the respective skeletal structures of the male and female pelvises. Women have wider hips than men do and this retards the rotational force of the hips in motion. Also, men have denser bones and stronger joints (and connective tissues, too, I think) on top of that.* Basically, all these multiple factors join together to generate much stronger rotational force than women can generate.

    Women’s bodies are optimized to carry and gestate babies and this means sacrificing high force generation.

    *Various military forces (e.g. Israel, the U.S., etc.) tried to integrate women into high-tier combat units by putting very selective, highly athletic, and tough women into the training, and where even the very muscular women failed were the joints – they had much higher rates of injuries than men and had to drop out of the training.

  110. Twinkie says:
    @AnotherDad

    You’ve got your traditional Catholic community. But it is not easy for the average guy to just snap his fingers and find a place.

    You don’t think I just snapped my fingers and joined a “traditional Catholic community” overnight, do you?

    Nothing worthwhile should be easy. The problem is “joining” a virtual “community” like the Joe Rogan fan club is easy. It doesn’t take much effort (just not falling asleep while listening to the podcast). Becoming a Trad Catholic or joining a real organic community takes a lot of effort and commitment. The problem with many of “the average guys” is precisely that they want “high returns” for “low investment” in this regard. An online community that is easy to join and easy to leave isn’t going to create the kind of genuine cohesion and togetherness that bond people and create mutual affection and, gasp, even love.

    For that matter, belonging to a real organic community requires the ability to get along with different kinds of people and personalities. That takes some “psychic energy” or emotional effort. It means learning to be, not only accepting of those who are different, but also giving without expecting return. Meanwhile, joining an online community requires no such effort or sacrifice – it’s all very pick and choose as one’s inclinations and moods dictate.

    There used to be a self-declared “national socialist” female commenter (“Rosie”) who often sparred with me on the Audacious Epigone blog. When I told her that she gets fixated on a “race community” (which is almost always online, rarely in real life), because she doesn’t have a real organic community in real life, she’d complain that she tried investing in befriending parents of her children’s friends or neighbors, but that they’d move away after a while (and so she ended up “wasting” her effort) or that they wouldn’t reciprocate her effort.

    I told her she had the wrong attitude and, from the beginning, was looking to get into transactional relationships, and that people, in general, tend to be pretty good at sniffing out and avoiding people who look for that kind of a relationship. My advice was, good people like good people and tend to congregate together – if she gave without the expectation of receiving, she was going to find good people to befriend sooner or later. I don’t think the advice took.

    • Agree: ic1000
  111. Twinkie says:
    @Thea

    No future without babies.

    It used to be said in the old days that a man without a son was a man without a future.

    Korean families used to obsess about having sons to “carry out the family name,” but look at them now. Fertility rate of 0.8 per woman. Many younger couples have no child or one child (boy or girl, don’t care).

    • Replies: @anonymous
  112. anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Franz

    I had an grand-uncle, now deceased, who gave his proper last name as “Kovacs” at Ellis Island, but the guy heard “Kovach” and spelled it out that way.

    Is “Kovacs” a Jewish name?

  113. anonymous[277] • Disclaimer says:
    @Twinkie

    It used to be said in the old days that a man without a son was a man without a future.

    What was the reasoning behind that?

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