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From the U. of Oregon Daily Emerald:
Why Ta-Nehisi Coates’ $41,500 UO speech ended early
Cooper Green — March 10, 2017 at 4:16 pmTa-Nehisi Coates, renowned author and public speaker, left the stage at Matthew Knight Arena on Feb. 3 about 35 minutes before his contract with the University of Oregon suggested he would.
Coates, who began speaking to a crowd of 5,548 people at 6 p.m., was scheduled to speak until 7:15. Instead, he was off the stage by 6:40. His schedule also included a question-and-answer period with the crowd, which didn’t occur. …
For the speech and preceding UO events, Coates was paid $41,500. … Coates’ visit was tied to UO’s Common Reading program, which provided his book, “Between the World and Me,” to all first-year students at orientation in 2016.
… The talk was Coates’ fifth in five days, he announced during his speech. The evening before, he was at Oregon State University where he spoke from 6-7:30 p.m. For that event, he was paid $30,000, according to his contract with the university. …
Despite five consecutive speaking engagements, McFadden said Coates’ schedule wasn’t unusual.
“Speakers have that type of schedule all the time,” she said. …
You know, when you are making that kind of money, you can actually afford to insert a rest day in your schedule.
Click the links to read Coates’ full contract with UO and OSU.
Oddly enough, no students are reported to have chanted political doctrines to prevent interested onlookers from hearing Coates’ speech. Nor did masked vigilantes chase him around the campus and injure a professor hosting Coates.
But, unlike Charles Murray, Coates doesn’t possess anything as hatefully offensive as data and statistical analyses. Instead, Coates has an anecdote about an escalator.
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Official Radical Negro Intellectual.
I guess Cornel West wore out his welcome.
I think Cornell West has been marginalized because he continually ripped Obama for being pro-Wall Street and for being a war monger. Also, Cornel West is a big supporter of the Palestinians, which might also explain why we never hear from him. Also, you can easily find other black "intellectuals" who equally obsessed with their blackness (i.e. Coates).Replies: @Dave Pinsen
Mark Twain gave a speech to a gathering of prominent businessmen. His fee was $10K. He stood and addressed the group. “When I heard that I was to address this group, I was speechless.” He then sat down.
I’ll give Clinton and some of these others a modicum of credit: it takes a few iq points to keep the ruse up that long.
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn’t recover.
OTOH, if he gives these speeches a lot, you'd think he could just repeat them.
Maybe he's just lazy or wanted to do something else. Kind of like a rock star. Not very disciplined.Replies: @Clyde, @bomag
Maybe that's how it started. Or maybe Coates was just padding his speech out. But then one of the audience members forgot to check their privilege and yelled out:
"Come on!"
You’ll never go broke marketing to status obsessed, white guilt liberals.
Coates will be making 1% money for the rest of his life. I understand why Glenn Loury sounded bitter & jealous discussing Coates, it must be maddening for someone like him to witness Coates being feted by the cultural elite.
What is more racist than hailing a fool like Coates as a genius simply because he is a black man?Replies: @NOTA, @Buffalo Joe
To be fair, Coates needs to rest his “black body,” which is always taking a beating from people like Charles Murray and Steve King.
Nice to have a liberal guilt guaranteed market for your musings:
“Coates visit was tied to UO’s Common Reading program, which provided his book, “Between the World and Me,” to all first-year students at orientation in 2016.”
I wonder how much that deal was worth?
Making it 176 pages was part of the genius, adding it to a college requirement hits diversity requirements but can be read in 3 hours.
I wonder how many of the books ended up in the trash on Day 1.
Maybe. The race hustle never gets old but any individual hustler might eventually get exposed (Rev’m’s Jesse and Al don’t draw the attention they used to, but that could be merely because the audience has shifted). Doesn’t hurt to “take the money and run,” just in case.
From the Contract:
The logic of the witch hunter is simple…. The first requirement is to invert the reality of power…. In a country where anyone who speaks out against the witches is soon found dangling by his heels from an oak at midnight with his head shrunk to the size of a baseball, we won’t see a lot of witch-hunting and we know there’s a serious witch problem. In a country where witch-hunting is a stable and lucrative career, and also an amateur pastime enjoyed by millions of hobbyists on the weekend, we know there are no real witches worth a damn. -Mencius Moldbug
https://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2010/10/thirty-pounds-in-thirty-days/63899/
The idea of a contract specifying what snacks will be available is certainly silly and self-centered.Replies: @Lot
From a comment at the Daily Emerald:Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @bomag, @MarcB., @Massimo Heitor
Black dudes where I live in the South would accuse him of being "on the down low" -- aka lavender in mannerisms
"Coates visit was tied to UO’s Common Reading program, which provided his book, “Between the World and Me,” to all first-year students at orientation in 2016."
I wonder how much that deal was worth?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lot, @Mr. Anon
Probably not as much as his speech.
The big money is not in writing, it is in speaking.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/tiger-woods-new-book-paints-a-grim-picture-of-racism-endemic-in-golf-1.3018065Replies: @Amasius, @Pericles
Coates will be making 1% money for the rest of his life. I understand why Glenn Loury sounded bitter & jealous discussing Coates, it must be maddening for someone like him to witness Coates being feted by the cultural elite.Replies: @ogunsiron, @oddsbodkins, @Alec Leamas, @lavoisier, @dr kill
Especially since Glenn Loury’s IQ is easily , say, 40 points north of Coates’ ?
Oh, come now. Tsk, tsk. Lay off the poor boy. He deserves it. He’s just making up for centuries of slavery and white privilege, ya know. White people (e.g., Hillary) make a lot more than that for a 35 minute speech. And she doesn’t take any questions either (unless they’re rigged in advance by Donna Brazile and CNN).
Any white person can easily make $41,000 in 35 minutes because of “institutional racism”… how can you hold it against him?
Speaker to have a dedicated handler at all times once on-site. This person must be able to keep Speaker protected from any crowds.
Charles Murray should have had that in his contract with Middlebury. Or is it only people on the left whose bodies are routinely broken?
Whitey be evil and shit. And we wuz kangz!
Where the fuck is my $41K?
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn't recover.Replies: @Frau Katze, @BigFire, @Mr. Anon, @Anonym, @Olorin, @donut, @Father O'Hara
That sounds plausible.
OTOH, if he gives these speeches a lot, you’d think he could just repeat them.
Maybe he’s just lazy or wanted to do something else. Kind of like a rock star. Not very disciplined.
Bruce Springsteen varies his sets more than the others. Hard to believe but this hash slinger of working class Americana is very big in Europe and performs in stadiums there, Australia, anywhere.
Has G+enius Coates never heard of teleprompters?Replies: @Frau Katze, @Ganderson, @Kylie, @Brutusale
The University of Oregon and Oregon State University are about 45 minute’s drive apart. It’s a scenic drive, too! So it’s not exactly taxing to hit both over two days.
Coates will be making 1% money for the rest of his life. I understand why Glenn Loury sounded bitter & jealous discussing Coates, it must be maddening for someone like him to witness Coates being feted by the cultural elite.Replies: @ogunsiron, @oddsbodkins, @Alec Leamas, @lavoisier, @dr kill
It must infuriate thinking blacks when white liberals pick someone vacuous like this and make the superstar they need out of him. T-NC is Chauncey Gardiner made real.
Reminds me of when The Atlantic shut down Disqus on Coates’ articles.
It's an admission of falsehood.Replies: @AndrewR
Coates will be making 1% money for the rest of his life. I understand why Glenn Loury sounded bitter & jealous discussing Coates, it must be maddening for someone like him to witness Coates being feted by the cultural elite.Replies: @ogunsiron, @oddsbodkins, @Alec Leamas, @lavoisier, @dr kill
“Glenn Loury” doesn’t have the self-segregating, faux-African ring to it that “Ta-Nehisi (Tennessee) Coates” does. This, together with his unintelligible, cumbersome prose that is beyond reasonable critique is what puts this hale fellow at the head of the professionally black class. It is Roger “Raj” Thomas look-alike Jamelle Bouie who has the most to complain about – had his parents added an apostrophe or other superfluous punctuation in his first name, he would have had a chance at the big time. I can imagine a “J’@m%ell-e Bouie” really giving Tennessee Coates a run for his easy, easy money.
$41k and a mule.
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn't recover.Replies: @Frau Katze, @BigFire, @Mr. Anon, @Anonym, @Olorin, @donut, @Father O'Hara
It’s not like he’s expected to say something different on every single speech. On these speaking tours, you’re expected to have one or 2 speech and depending on the venue, give the speech in question.
Here’s a video of his speech. Pretty similar to every speech he’s ever made.
Tahehehehenenenesi Coates is just being the Corporate Token Lazy Negro he’s always been, just like the President he worshiped.
Why should you demand he speak as long as he was contracted to do? Don’t you know he’s tired from 400 years of oppression and 5,000 years of whitey stealing from his people?
And do you know who else had contracts? Slave buyers and slave sellers!
This will no doubt give Lazy Coates grist for a number of blog posts and at least one full-fledged Atlantic column.
Threadwinner.
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn't recover.Replies: @Frau Katze, @BigFire, @Mr. Anon, @Anonym, @Olorin, @donut, @Father O'Hara
Bill Clinton’s speeches aren’t really speeches. They are bribes, after the fact – payment for services rendered. It doesn’t matter what he says in them.
Guess that TNC is still working on keeping the weight off….
https://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2010/10/thirty-pounds-in-thirty-days/63899/
Thank you sir!
Being Black.
Oh, not the dreaded Plantation again!
"Coates visit was tied to UO’s Common Reading program, which provided his book, “Between the World and Me,” to all first-year students at orientation in 2016."
I wonder how much that deal was worth?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lot, @Mr. Anon
About 5,000 thin paperbacks, so maybe $15,000 to TNC.
Making it 176 pages was part of the genius, adding it to a college requirement hits diversity requirements but can be read in 3 hours.
I thought he was going to ask for all black M&Ms.
The idea of a contract specifying what snacks will be available is certainly silly and self-centered.
1200 people came to the event where he was paid $41,250. So about $40 per person to see the magic of TNC live when there are dozens of free videos online.
The speaker circuit is a racket where the pretense is education, but the reality is a chance for the booking people and top admins to give money to fellow elites and hobnob a bit with them when they arrive.Replies: @Lurker, @Jack Hanson
"Coates visit was tied to UO’s Common Reading program, which provided his book, “Between the World and Me,” to all first-year students at orientation in 2016."
I wonder how much that deal was worth?Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Lot, @Mr. Anon
Well, that would certainly be reading something that is rather common.
I wonder how many of the books ended up in the trash on Day 1.
ROTFL
The idea of a contract specifying what snacks will be available is certainly silly and self-centered.Replies: @Lot
Thesmokinggun.com has some absurd snack requirements written into band contracts.
1200 people came to the event where he was paid $41,250. So about $40 per person to see the magic of TNC live when there are dozens of free videos online.
The speaker circuit is a racket where the pretense is education, but the reality is a chance for the booking people and top admins to give money to fellow elites and hobnob a bit with them when they arrive.
http://www.contactmusic.com/iron-maiden/news/maiden-keep-it-simple-on-tour_1161659
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q5D8NLFPY5AReplies: @Steve Sailer
I think Rwanda tends to have rich volcanic soil and is at a healthy altitude that cuts down on disease.
It was pretty densely populated and well-organized when Speke and Burton got there in the 1860s looking for the source of the Nile.
Slightly off topic.
Lots of fun up north over a Canadian Senator (and Pentecostal minister) ‘s affair with a teenage girl.
Lawyer says calls for his resignation are racist.
The lawyer for embattled Sen. Don Meredith says his client feels he would not be facing the same level of criticism over his relationship with a teenage girl if he were a member of the “old white boys club.”
There’s a lynch mob mentality that’s going on right now that’s not helpful to anyone,” said lawyer Selwyn Pieters.
https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/03/19/racism-at-play-in-criticisms-of-don-meredith-senators-lawyer-says.html
1200 people came to the event where he was paid $41,250. So about $40 per person to see the magic of TNC live when there are dozens of free videos online.
The speaker circuit is a racket where the pretense is education, but the reality is a chance for the booking people and top admins to give money to fellow elites and hobnob a bit with them when they arrive.Replies: @Lurker, @Jack Hanson
I was impressed when I read this a few years ago:
http://www.contactmusic.com/iron-maiden/news/maiden-keep-it-simple-on-tour_1161659
OTOH, if he gives these speeches a lot, you'd think he could just repeat them.
Maybe he's just lazy or wanted to do something else. Kind of like a rock star. Not very disciplined.Replies: @Clyde, @bomag
Rock stars do in fact give the same speech each night. They will have fixed set of 20 tunes and Mick Jagger (example) will deliver the same patter between tunes in Detroit as he did in Cleveland. The set will vary from tour to tour.
Bruce Springsteen varies his sets more than the others. Hard to believe but this hash slinger of working class Americana is very big in Europe and performs in stadiums there, Australia, anywhere.
Has G+enius Coates never heard of teleprompters?
I note from reading full article that the event was paid for by donors. No student bought a ticket.
That makes it even easier to quit early. His audience didn't pay to listen, so easy come, easy go. The rock stars that are touring couldn't get away with that. Bad comparison!
Not a fan of Mick or Bruce but I understand from those who've seen them live that they don't just phone their performances in. (Maybe they do now that they're so old but they didn't in their primes.) I'm sure they were expending lots of energy. Certainly more than Genius T. Coates does when condescending to lecture his fans. I doubt his black body ever works up a sweat.Replies: @oddsbodkins, @Clyde
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eh2teM0GlYM
I get a real kick out of seeing “comments are closed for this article.”
It’s an admission of falsehood.
But in TNC's case, it's not that they are unable to moderate the comments but that the articles are so Orwellian.
It’s like he stopped learning about food 20+ years ago, when low fat was still the rage.
From a comment at the Daily Emerald:
He left off the the halved-grapefruit and skim cottage cheese.
The pithy absurdity here is that Coates has achieved great success from his own oppression.
Why doesn't Sailer do public speaking engagements at universities and raise his public profile?Replies: @bored identity
Some orientation. I remember we had to read Mill’s On Liberty, which turned out to be a libertarian tract. Gertrude Himmelfarb wrote a book about this later. Mill was under the thumb of his wife at the time, so she entitled it On Bondage.
http://www.fox5atlanta.com/local-news/242444587-story
ROTFL
For this kind of money you would think T+++ Coates might relax a bit and give a few minority writer’s workshops at the University. Might spend a few minutes mentoring Samoan and Aleutian Islander students. But no, it’s all about The Bejamins for A+++ Coates.
The movie GET OUT should really be about what whites in South Africa should do.
https://redice.tv/news/urgent-suidlanders-reach-out-to-americans-to-stop-south-african-white-genocide?utm
He was probably impatient to score. Earning that much money tends to bring out a black guy’s urge to set hundred dollars bills alight while snorting coke off a white chick’s ass.
Steve, on a more serious note…. Does Kim Jong-Un have missiles that can reach Southern California??? Because I can put up with these leftists for a while longer, but if the nukes start landing, I want to be the hell out of Dodge.
I guess Cornel West wore out his welcome.Replies: @Another Anon, @JohnnyD, @Mr. Blank
Cornel West is inconvenient: he despised Obama, and (surprisingly) has enough of a spine to object to campus free-speech-for-me-but-not-for-thee thuggery.
Why Ta-Nehisi Coates’ $41,500 UO speech ended early
Before I read the story I assumed it was because they ran out of money.
UO’s Common Reading program, which provided his book, “Between the World and Me,” to all first-year students at orientation in 2016
Perhaps the most shocking passage: ‘Welcome to the UofO, here’s your complementary copy of a book by a pop faux black intellectual.’
Bruce Springsteen varies his sets more than the others. Hard to believe but this hash slinger of working class Americana is very big in Europe and performs in stadiums there, Australia, anywhere.
Has G+enius Coates never heard of teleprompters?Replies: @Frau Katze, @Ganderson, @Kylie, @Brutusale
I thought of Mick Jagger as I was posting the comment, how he’s touring a lot at his age.
I note from reading full article that the event was paid for by donors. No student bought a ticket.
That makes it even easier to quit early. His audience didn’t pay to listen, so easy come, easy go. The rock stars that are touring couldn’t get away with that. Bad comparison!
Speaking of writing, Tiger Woods has a new book out:
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/tiger-woods-new-book-paints-a-grim-picture-of-racism-endemic-in-golf-1.3018065
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pseLTrcXJFU
He called it on both of them well before their respective implosions.Replies: @donut
I’m a highly qualified professional trying to switch fields. I can barely afford health insurance, let alone anything else. I put in more hours than I need to at a lower-than-market rate because I’m desperate to make a few bucks. The supposed low unemployment rate is a “juked stat.”
Perhaps I’m in the wrong fields. I know that iSteve commenters are highly intelligent people who tend to be well-established. In any case, TNC (I don’t know how to pronounce his name) sucks.
1200 people came to the event where he was paid $41,250. So about $40 per person to see the magic of TNC live when there are dozens of free videos online.
The speaker circuit is a racket where the pretense is education, but the reality is a chance for the booking people and top admins to give money to fellow elites and hobnob a bit with them when they arrive.Replies: @Lurker, @Jack Hanson
My understanding is that Guns and Roses or Van Halen had the insane requirements like “all brown M&Ms” to make sure the contract was read.
Their FX requirements were extremely detailed and someone ignoring how to place their light fixtures could result in one of the band getting electrocuted to death. So if they saw that their snack requirement had been read, they had a good idea that the entire contract had been read and that they weren’t going to find a total mess when they looked at how their soundstage was wired.
electric (-ity) + (exec)ute
Electrocution is by definition to death.
Otherwise you're just shocked, zapped, or bitten (to use terms favored by Sparkys OMA). Or struck as by lightning.Replies: @Autochthon
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/tiger-woods-new-book-paints-a-grim-picture-of-racism-endemic-in-golf-1.3018065Replies: @Amasius, @Pericles
I like George Carlin’s take on (Lance Armstrong and) Tiger Woods:
He called it on both of them well before their respective implosions.
http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/golf/tiger-woods-new-book-paints-a-grim-picture-of-racism-endemic-in-golf-1.3018065Replies: @Amasius, @Pericles
Poor Tiger, he always had to struggle against The Man.
Tom Petty got electrocuted on stage around 1978.
After awhile he came back to finish the song then called it a night.
It was Van Halen; David Lee Roth spilled the beans (well, the M&M’s) in a 2012 interview. See http://www.businessinsider.com/van-halen-brown-m-ms-contract-2016-9.
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn't recover.Replies: @Frau Katze, @BigFire, @Mr. Anon, @Anonym, @Olorin, @donut, @Father O'Hara
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn’t recover.
Maybe that’s how it started. Or maybe Coates was just padding his speech out. But then one of the audience members forgot to check their privilege and yelled out:
“Come on!”
So this guy is the new Malcolm Gladwell?
It’s pretty much, rain, rain, rain this time of year. You’d have to break speed laws to get from one to the other in an hour.
“The speaker circuit is a racket where the pretense is education, but the reality is a chance for the booking people and top admins to give money to fellow elites and hobnob a bit with them when they arrive.”
One of the other commentators made this observation, and it is absolutely true. For years at Wright State University in Dayton, Ohio I watched this unfold. There would be four to five per academic year, picked by a small committee of lefties and careerist administerators selected by the President. Then the check-off list to hit each of the official “victim-groups”. The worthless “studies” majors (fill-in-the-blank … black, women, etc.) faculty would make their students attend the mass event, speaker session, which would be after the small “reception” for the high-ups to do the mingling and the ass-kissing.
Typical annual program:
September — Black Leftist to talk about racism — Van Jones
November — White woman liberal to talk about the oppression of women —
Barbara Ehrenreich
January — White male liberal to talk about evil Republicans — Dan Rather or Nicholas Kristof
March — Transgendered something or other to talk about homophobia — Laverne Cox
April — Another White liberal to complain about stupid white people — Tom Harkin
And, of course, none of these gems comes for less than 50 or 60K.
Anyway, the speakers are used to recruit students to come to the school. Liberal parents read that X college invited so-and-so to speak, and say, Oh, they must be a goodwhite college filled with goodwhitethought. Let's give them my kid to be properly indoctrinated and a lot of goodwhite guiltymoney along with it.
PC hiring of grievance speakers is the equivalent of a modern-day potlatch, and it's akin to what the big man of some primitive tribe does. They throw a huge party and give away stuff to gain support from the tribe and prove what a terrific guy they are who deserves to be in charge. In the case of colleges, the invited grievance speaker is supposed to symbolize a poor and oppressed class of people, and the yokels in the audience are being taught that you should feel good at the end of the speech, and that they too should give away lots of money to the oppressed (or at least one of their symbolic exemplars) when they actually get some later on in life, because it will make them feel like goodwhites who deserve to be in charge and praised for being noble. It's also the modern-day equivalent of religious tithing for atheists and other unchurched people, though this giving of money to just a single occasional person actually has very little effect on improving the status of an entire class of people, but don't tell goodwhites that or they'll get upset.Replies: @Thea
Coates will be making 1% money for the rest of his life. I understand why Glenn Loury sounded bitter & jealous discussing Coates, it must be maddening for someone like him to witness Coates being feted by the cultural elite.Replies: @ogunsiron, @oddsbodkins, @Alec Leamas, @lavoisier, @dr kill
So true. The brain dead white liberals at the Atlantic created this monster. There is no shortage of these SJW fools who will spend money to listen to drivel in order to virtue signal to others. Furthermore, it gives them credibility among their peers for, believe it or not, being an intellectual and interested in ideas. Watch how the hipster SJW on the plane shows off the latest book from this fool and you have identified the species.
I feel sad for the genuine black intellectuals with real accomplishments who have to watch this spectacle of liberal worship for the black man.
What is more racist than hailing a fool like Coates as a genius simply because he is a black man?
Actually, he spoke longer than he needed to. All he had to do was appear in order to show that OU is the kind of institution that would invite him, that they are in sync with him and other right thinkers.
Coates is shilling for more money in his afro-pocket, promoting more afro-group entitlements, and steering afro-voters to elect diversity compliant politicians.
His Black Body grew tired. It’s White people’s fault……
tnc’s “speeches” are bribes too although I don’t think it will stop the rash of nooses,sheets,swastikas,etc.etc.etc. next term.
From a comment at the Daily Emerald:Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @bomag, @MarcB., @Massimo Heitor
Kipling was a wise man. I don’t think any man of letters since has equalled his sagacity.
Like Howard Beale, he just ran out of bullshit.
Missing part of Cassius Clay’s poem:
Don’t give me 41K to talk to no school,
Just give me my 40 acres and my mule!
Does Kim Jong-Un have missiles that can reach Southern California???
What do the Norks have against Mexicans?
No riots as he spewed his vitriol. Its difficult not to view ourselves as a defeated people living under conquerors.
Don't give me 41K to talk to no school,
Just give me my 40 acres and my mule!Replies: @pepperinmono
Ali read that poem on Johnny Carson, no less.
Black folks call it “CPT”.
As in, “he’s runnin’ on CPT.”
Colored People’s Time.
He needed to heed the words of a great African-American, “I don’t feel no ways tired”
OTOH, if he gives these speeches a lot, you'd think he could just repeat them.
Maybe he's just lazy or wanted to do something else. Kind of like a rock star. Not very disciplined.Replies: @Clyde, @bomag
I’m thinking he could have found an illegal immigrant to deliver his speech for a few bucks.
Imagine the status points: “Here to deliver Ta-Genius’s speech, in defiance of Donald Trump’s ban, is a Dreamer of undetermined gender and sexual orientation; infected with several diseases; from a Muslim country; who has been forced to perform clitorectomies by Western imperialism.”
The clapping would never stop.
Yes, true.
The world’s highest university education costs going to good use.
From a comment at the Daily Emerald:Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @bomag, @MarcB., @Massimo Heitor
And note how they quickly start demanding top spots and policy making posts, e.g. the Oscars and various college Deans in charge of diversity policy.
In my freshman orientation they assigned us to read Barbara Echenrich’s Nickle and Dimed which is a typical liberal screed about the working class getting screwed over in America that doesn’t mention the impact of immigration or black crime. I didn’t read it and neither did most people I knew. There was also a speech by the author, nobody went to that. The people who read the book were mostly annoyed that the book wasn’t ever on any test.
Whites and other groups pay a premium, endure long commutes just to avoid the dysfunction of black America and the media could care less.Replies: @NOTA
So why did TNC speak for 40 minutes only? Because he was, of course, expecting at least 20 minutes or more of intermittent applause, cheers, and standing ovations.
Them white students did not deliver the requisite applause etc, and accordingly TNC didn’t deliver either.
If the US is white supremacist, how can a black guy with a made-up pseudo-African name who constantly hates on whites get paid more than the average white American earns in a year to give a speech at a government-funded university?
It’s almost like leftists are dishonest…..
From a comment at the Daily Emerald:Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @bomag, @MarcB., @Massimo Heitor
“It’s like he stopped learning about food 20+ years ago, when low fat was still the rage”.
He left off the the halved-grapefruit and skim cottage cheese.
Bruce Springsteen varies his sets more than the others. Hard to believe but this hash slinger of working class Americana is very big in Europe and performs in stadiums there, Australia, anywhere.
Has G+enius Coates never heard of teleprompters?Replies: @Frau Katze, @Ganderson, @Kylie, @Brutusale
The Grateful Dead did a different show every night- even when they played multiple nights in the same city. And they had no between tunes patter.
It’s difficult to overstate how brave he is. The danger faced by a black man preaching against white supremacy at a university in the Pacific Northwest in 2017 is almost incomprehensible. He truly is a light unto us all.
Well then, we may at least take some satisfaction from that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHwGnGrm_kReplies: @fish, @rw95
From Troofs Greatest Hits!
Ohh, that’s just Genius Coates expressing himself as a black man again. One of the side benefits of becoming a MacArthur Certified Black Genius is that you get to play by your own rules– in THC’s mind a small price to pay for 400 years of bondage.
It's an admission of falsehood.Replies: @AndrewR
Not being able to comment is better than having unmoderated comments.
But in TNC’s case, it’s not that they are unable to moderate the comments but that the articles are so Orwellian.
Most likely he got sick or something and needed to finish fast and get to a bathroom. If you want to keep getting invited to give talks, you don’t short your audience.
What is more racist than hailing a fool like Coates as a genius simply because he is a black man?Replies: @NOTA, @Buffalo Joe
Lowbrow and accessible sells. Consider how many more people know who Rush Limbaugh is than know who Charles Murray is.
Same concept as military basic training.
If you can’t do pointless things like making your bed with a high attention to detail, you can’t be trusted to do important things with a high attention to detail.
N.B. Someone here has lately been going by the moniker of “40 Acres and a Kardashian” and it’s brilliant.
One of the other commentators made this observation, and it is absolutely true. For years at Wright State University in Dayton, Ohio I watched this unfold. There would be four to five per academic year, picked by a small committee of lefties and careerist administerators selected by the President. Then the check-off list to hit each of the official "victim-groups". The worthless "studies" majors (fill-in-the-blank ... black, women, etc.) faculty would make their students attend the mass event, speaker session, which would be after the small "reception" for the high-ups to do the mingling and the ass-kissing.
Typical annual program:
September -- Black Leftist to talk about racism -- Van Jones
November -- White woman liberal to talk about the oppression of women --
Barbara Ehrenreich
January -- White male liberal to talk about evil Republicans -- Dan Rather or Nicholas Kristof
March -- Transgendered something or other to talk about homophobia -- Laverne Cox
April -- Another White liberal to complain about stupid white people -- Tom Harkin
And, of course, none of these gems comes for less than 50 or 60K.Replies: @Anon
Well, you can’t expect someone in the hard sciences to come out and talk at the average college. Almost no one in the audience would be able to understand them if they talked about what they did. The typical speaker at these places has to be understood by every student in the audience, and that means they’re pitching their material at about a 6th-grade level. Well-known public speakers with a 6th-grade intellect are ideal.
Anyway, the speakers are used to recruit students to come to the school. Liberal parents read that X college invited so-and-so to speak, and say, Oh, they must be a goodwhite college filled with goodwhitethought. Let’s give them my kid to be properly indoctrinated and a lot of goodwhite guiltymoney along with it.
PC hiring of grievance speakers is the equivalent of a modern-day potlatch, and it’s akin to what the big man of some primitive tribe does. They throw a huge party and give away stuff to gain support from the tribe and prove what a terrific guy they are who deserves to be in charge. In the case of colleges, the invited grievance speaker is supposed to symbolize a poor and oppressed class of people, and the yokels in the audience are being taught that you should feel good at the end of the speech, and that they too should give away lots of money to the oppressed (or at least one of their symbolic exemplars) when they actually get some later on in life, because it will make them feel like goodwhites who deserve to be in charge and praised for being noble. It’s also the modern-day equivalent of religious tithing for atheists and other unchurched people, though this giving of money to just a single occasional person actually has very little effect on improving the status of an entire class of people, but don’t tell goodwhites that or they’ll get upset.
Surely, some parents think "I do not want to send my children to the local Uni where Tim Wise just spoke"
At some point this has to collapse under its own weight, doesn't it?
Maybe he ended his U of O speech early after he observed total incomprehension from the sea of Chinese faces staring back at him. They pay full tuition, you know.
OT OT OT
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It’s fun to make fun of Teh-Genius T. Coates but in all fairness he probably rues being given such an award.
ROTFLReplies: @Percy Gryce, @Buffalo Joe
Note the different standards for men and women in that competition, so the Brawny Woman is not so brawny:
http://www.pendleton.marines.mil/News/News-Article-Display/Article/536976/pendleton-marines-compete-in-strongest-warrior-competition/
I think I’ve told this story here before: a couple of years ago, I was in Powell’s bookstore in Chicago (near the University of Chicago campus) and an older SWPL woman came in and asked the clerks at the counter where she could find TNC’s new opus. The clerks, who were used to dealing with tomes on solid-state physics and Greek classics, responded, “Don’t know. Maybe fiction.”
Has the fairy tale now now ended?
How angry are you that a less intelligent writer got a genius prize and not you? Or is it the money?
OT
Steve, following on from the Terman case, see that Melbourne University has today stripped Prof. Richard Berry’s name from one of its buildings. Berry was one of the most influential and pioneering anatomists of his time in Britain and Australia and invited on a speaking and study tour of the U.S., but – gasp – believed in eugenics, and kept Aboriginal remains among his specimens.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/melbourne-university-bows-to-pressure-removes-racist-professors-name-from-campus-20170321-gv2sjc.html
http://adb.anu.edu.au/biography/berry-richard-james-5220
they wouldn’t know what to do with either
Bruce Springsteen varies his sets more than the others. Hard to believe but this hash slinger of working class Americana is very big in Europe and performs in stadiums there, Australia, anywhere.
Has G+enius Coates never heard of teleprompters?Replies: @Frau Katze, @Ganderson, @Kylie, @Brutusale
I did debate and extemp in high school and spent years in various choirs. Singing in public takes much more energy than speaking in public does.
Not a fan of Mick or Bruce but I understand from those who’ve seen them live that they don’t just phone their performances in. (Maybe they do now that they’re so old but they didn’t in their primes.) I’m sure they were expending lots of energy. Certainly more than Genius T. Coates does when condescending to lecture his fans. I doubt his black body ever works up a sweat.
I think T Coates shelf live expires May of 2018. He should go for all the Benjamins he can scoop up now. By 2019 The Atlantic will have a new prime black totem installed. btw ever see the dead tree Atlantic? Very slick and full of newer the type corporate advertisers/
You need an image of an Indian with a single tear coming down his cheek for that comment.
The Second Addendum to the contract included this language:
“Handler shall keep all issue of Speaker away from escalators of any kind.”
OT; the MSM are finally catching up to you, Steve:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4267964/Boston-Marathon-bomber-worked-U-S-government.html
I can understand why the brothas wouldn’t want to show up to jobs digging ditches.
But not following through on a speech for $40k? Man, that just looks bad. If NOTA is right, and Tennessee got sick, the least he could do is say so.
Maybe it’s just me, but, if I was getting paid $40k per speech, I’d keep handy a few spares of varying lengths.
Hey, yeah! I’ll put the system on trial! End halfway through as a protest. Yeah, that’s the ticket…
Y’know, they could throw in a jar of mayo and a jar of relish, and I wouldn’t call them dandies.
Maybe that’s why Coates is #1; he doesn’t try to run off the plantation.
The media’s soft spot for blacks blinds it to acknowledging the realities & the decisions many people make that involves staying away from blacks. This is why they mostly missed the Trump train. They thought BLM would be a boon for Dems. However they also ignored the backlash to Obama’s affordable housing putsch into nicer areas. They missed how crime rising among blacks would also play with electorate. They’d be quick to point out that national rates are low. Sure but crime is local.
Whites and other groups pay a premium, endure long commutes just to avoid the dysfunction of black America and the media could care less.
Ironically, this is probably worse for blacks than for whites--after all, most of our social problems can be discussed without fear of becoming untouchable, so there's some hope of coming to some sensible solutions.
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn't recover.Replies: @Frau Katze, @BigFire, @Mr. Anon, @Anonym, @Olorin, @donut, @Father O'Hara
Plus Chubby’s black body had a sugar crash from the Nature Valley Granola Bars–Oats n Dark Chocolate stipulated in his contract.
http://www.fooducate.com
Whitey’s fault for sure.
You mean “a Sicilian.”
Thomas, Nice reply, but it’s hard to run when you’re carrying the kind of money Jesse and Al extorted from Goodwhites. Bags full.
Electrocute is a portmanteau word:
electric (-ity) + (exec)ute
Electrocution is by definition to death.
Otherwise you’re just shocked, zapped, or bitten (to use terms favored by Sparkys OMA). Or struck as by lightning.
Why should you demand he speak as long as he was contracted to do? Don't you know he's tired from 400 years of oppression and 5,000 years of whitey stealing from his people?
And do you know who else had contracts? Slave buyers and slave sellers!
This will no doubt give Lazy Coates grist for a number of blog posts and at least one full-fledged Atlantic column.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Whorefinder, too funny
Lots of fun up north over a Canadian Senator (and Pentecostal minister) 's affair with a teenage girl.
Lawyer says calls for his resignation are racist.
The lawyer for embattled Sen. Don Meredith says his client feels he would not be facing the same level of criticism over his relationship with a teenage girl if he were a member of the “old white boys club.”
There’s a lynch mob mentality that’s going on right now that’s not helpful to anyone,” said lawyer Selwyn Pieters.https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/03/19/racism-at-play-in-criticisms-of-don-meredith-senators-lawyer-says.htmlReplies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jim Don Bob
Anon, The article includes every time worn cliché relating to the Talented Tenth when they get in trouble. Whitey always trying to pull them down.
ROTFLReplies: @Percy Gryce, @Buffalo Joe
Anon, I clicked on the link, but that’s a guy right?
Whites and other groups pay a premium, endure long commutes just to avoid the dysfunction of black America and the media could care less.Replies: @NOTA
Worse, they know that being suspected of knowing why courting BLM isn’t the road to electoral success would ruin them, like being suspected of knowing about the IQ gap or of thinking trans women aren’t really quite the same as biological women. When some kinds of knowledge would make you an unemployable outcast, you have an enormous incentive not to gain that knowledge. And that is one reason why our discussions about race in the US are so crappy, and accomplish so little.
Ironically, this is probably worse for blacks than for whites–after all, most of our social problems can be discussed without fear of becoming untouchable, so there’s some hope of coming to some sensible solutions.
Perhaps I'm in the wrong fields. I know that iSteve commenters are highly intelligent people who tend to be well-established. In any case, TNC (I don't know how to pronounce his name) sucks.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Reg, It’s not that you’re in the wrong field, it’s that you’re in the wrong skin. Try making people feel guilty about you and then start a Go-fund-Me page.
What is more racist than hailing a fool like Coates as a genius simply because he is a black man?Replies: @NOTA, @Buffalo Joe
lav, The answer to your question is: Electing one POTUS.
disagree–both probably have a Barry 115
isteve clickbait
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11821399
I don’t see why people can’t have compassion for TNC.
Sure he gets paid a lot of money, but money is not everything, and what can the man say?
It’s all carefully scripted to insure he does not to offend the wrong tribes, and he must realize he is about as “radical” as Bono or a new toaster oven at this point.
He is just a little puppet the money men use to enact their phony racial reconciliation rituals, while they go off to count their money. A house negro for global capitalism, what could be more pathetic? Flip Wilson LARPing as a Black Panther.
I can’t begin to analyze this gem:
https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2008/11/we-are-all-house-negroes-now/6289/
>>The talk was Coates’ fifth in five days, he announced during his speech. The evening before, he was at Oregon State University where he spoke from 6-7:30 p.m. For that event, he was paid $30,000, according to his contract with the university.<<
We all know that the "State" schools are lower in prestige to the "University of" schools, that's why Oregon State only paid him $30,000 instead of the $41,000 that University of Oregon paid. Gee, what a way to rub it into the faces of the lowly Oregon State students. Now that's a legitimate excuse for a riot.
TNC may not be a genius, but he must be doing something right (clever) to have found people to pay him $40K per speech. Yet I am sure he continues to be oppressed and haunted by the memory of that woman scolding his child on the elevator or whatever.
Like Barak.
Like Oprah.
Like De Ray.
Van Jones is an example of quite inteligent alfa on the other side of the aisle ; his assessment on Trump is very often basically full of backhand compliments.
Zer Experts don' t like his leftie- leftover opinions when it comes to the most important tiny country in the world ( hint; it ain't Luxembourg) so Van J. will continue to dwell in CNN's underworld for time being.
Bomag, Nor would you want to be the first to stop clapping.
[Coates]-- and for that matter any academic speaker-- isn't "edutainment" that folks "get their money's worth" from. They have arguments to make. I don't see any comments here claiming that he didn't make a complete argument, that they didn't understand where he was going with his comments, or that those comments were inaccurate or insignificant. Academic speeches are not concerts; a speech is about the substance of ideas and evidence for those claims. Kurt claims the content wasn't engaging-- to me, when Coates discussed the exploitation of student athletes in universities, the significance of census statuses, the extended analogy of slavery to homeownership, and the fraught ethics and pragmatics of voting... I felt engaged. It seemed the crowd who gave him multiple standing ovations thought so too. These are tremendously important issues that Coates has studied and written about extensively via his blog, his journalism, his books, and he was kind enough to discuss with the school at a competative rate with other speakers of his status. I was thrilled that a speech of substance was heard by 5500 UO community members, and I am grateful to the donors who made this happen, and most of all to Coates for taking time to talk to us. I'd love the Emerald to devote more time to the issues Coates discussed, not the literal time he was on stage. One is interesting and vital... the other utterly banal.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
From a comment at the Daily Emerald:Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic, @bomag, @MarcB., @Massimo Heitor
Coates isn’t entitled to get these lavish speaking contracts, he’s successful.
The pithy absurdity here is that Coates has achieved great success from his own oppression.
Why doesn’t Sailer do public speaking engagements at universities and raise his public profile?
He priviliged.
He attends fancy Opera and he chugs fancy $7.99 wines.
He ain't care when The Black Hennesy tinny meany noBODY got literally shaking-lynched under the Great Escalator of Whiteness.
Sailer bad.
LOL granola.
Black dudes where I live in the South would accuse him of being “on the down low” — aka lavender in mannerisms
Coates will be making 1% money for the rest of his life. I understand why Glenn Loury sounded bitter & jealous discussing Coates, it must be maddening for someone like him to witness Coates being feted by the cultural elite.Replies: @ogunsiron, @oddsbodkins, @Alec Leamas, @lavoisier, @dr kill
Isn’t the correct description from Michael Gerson – the soft bigotry of low expectations? Man, I wish I had said that first.
I suppose as a token speaker he can not just get away with this, but the audience breathes a sigh of relief. I’m not sure what sort of jiving these academic tokens do, but I imagine its a giant Xerox copy of every lame cliche the broken record ever played. I suppose its either required by law or through some sort of implied threat to have to listen to this token mediocrity go through the motions. This is just one reason why education at the University Level is a COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY. Whether its someone like this, or someone droning on about the magical benefits of keeping mediocrities of different colors around for decorative purposes mostly, Academics is just complete garbage now. White people should save their time and money. No amount of hard work will get you as far as not being White will. The System really is rigged. This moron and his fake “career” shows how ridiculous this has become.
I guess Cornel West wore out his welcome.Replies: @Another Anon, @JohnnyD, @Mr. Blank
,
I think Cornell West has been marginalized because he continually ripped Obama for being pro-Wall Street and for being a war monger. Also, Cornel West is a big supporter of the Palestinians, which might also explain why we never hear from him. Also, you can easily find other black “intellectuals” who equally obsessed with their blackness (i.e. Coates).
I think Cornell West has been marginalized because he continually ripped Obama for being pro-Wall Street and for being a war monger. Also, Cornel West is a big supporter of the Palestinians, which might also explain why we never hear from him. Also, you can easily find other black "intellectuals" who equally obsessed with their blackness (i.e. Coates).Replies: @Dave Pinsen
He’s also kind of an embarrassing example of a black intellectual. There was a column in the Village Voice years ago agonizing about reconciling support for affirmative action in general with being mortified by West’s mediocrity in particular. And there was the time when Larry Summers rapped West’s knuckles about focusing on rap instead of research.
https://www.amazon.com/Sketches-My-Culture-Cornel-West/dp/B00005OC67
This comment by a Shane Hall to a critical comment is most revealing of mainstream views of Coates’ work. Both the quality of his writing and ideas are practically immune from criticism of any sort, and now it even extends to his cutting short a generously paid speech and not bothering to engage with questions afterwards. It’s astounding what he gets away with.
[Coates]– and for that matter any academic speaker– isn’t “edutainment” that folks “get their money’s worth” from. They have arguments to make. I don’t see any comments here claiming that he didn’t make a complete argument, that they didn’t understand where he was going with his comments, or that those comments were inaccurate or insignificant. Academic speeches are not concerts; a speech is about the substance of ideas and evidence for those claims. Kurt claims the content wasn’t engaging– to me, when Coates discussed the exploitation of student athletes in universities, the significance of census statuses, the extended analogy of slavery to homeownership, and the fraught ethics and pragmatics of voting… I felt engaged. It seemed the crowd who gave him multiple standing ovations thought so too. These are tremendously important issues that Coates has studied and written about extensively via his blog, his journalism, his books, and he was kind enough to discuss with the school at a competative rate with other speakers of his status. I was thrilled that a speech of substance was heard by 5500 UO community members, and I am grateful to the donors who made this happen, and most of all to Coates for taking time to talk to us. I’d love the Emerald to devote more time to the issues Coates discussed, not the literal time he was on stage. One is interesting and vital… the other utterly banal.
Ah f**kit , LOL .
That’s why he returned the money, right?
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn't recover.Replies: @Frau Katze, @BigFire, @Mr. Anon, @Anonym, @Olorin, @donut, @Father O'Hara
“I’ll give Clinton and some of these others a modicum of credit: it takes a few iq points to keep the ruse up that long. ” Wrong !! It takes s few IQ points for sure but the IQ points in question are the low IQ points in his audience .
Could be as simple as Coates is tired of Oregon. It is pretty White and what ever you think about Coates, he really does not strike me as a hipster. From my perusal of the Internet, Coates has spoken to at least three different Oregon colleges in the last month.
Here is Coates speech at Oregon State earlier this month. He mentions that he was recently in Ames, Iowa so he is really hitting up the Whitest parts of America. He might be getting bored. I can’t stand his writing, but his speech is relatively pleasant and certainly is unfiltered.
elmer, Seriously? These awards validate everything he is angry about.
Steve,
The Baltimore Sun is running a 4 part series on diversity in schools that would be right up your alley. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/investigations/bs-md-school-segregation-series-henderson-20170321-story.html
Today is part 2 and discusses the failure of a week financed charter school near Johns Hopkins hospital that is a great example of various liberal subgroups pointing fingers at each other. Teachers, administrators, local African American residents, foundations, and the colleges involved (jhu and Morgan State u, an hbcu).
I’d love to see you cover this topic. I’m actually a high school teacher at a large and diverse Baltimore high school and this experience has really woken me up to the possible future of the US if we continue acting like parenting and values don’t matter.
Coates is a “microaggression” scholar, according to
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8947
The University of Oregon recently spent $41,500 to bring microaggression scholar Ta-Nehisi Coates to campus, courtesy of the UO School of Journalism, but some students felt “cheated” by the brevity of his latest lecture.
A book, or, at least, a blog post, should be written about the history of microaggressions someday.
OFF TOPIC I thought this might interest you. This campus rape in the news today rings similar alarm bells to the Rolling Stone article. No drunkeness, a random and anonymous rape when the accuser was sleeping in her bed, a sadistic and violent second rape, an unidentified rapist that the victim never saw clearly and who continued to anonymously taunt her about the rapes; and the accuser also already claimed to be be a sexual assault survivor/victim before applying to Columbia, and was heavily involved in campus anti-rape activism. She is suing Columbia for not investigating her rapes with diligence, and treating her coldly (she alleges penetration with scissors!) when she reported the rapes.
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/columbia-student-files-suit-raped-dorm-article-1.3004311
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/amelia-roskinfrazee/applying-to-columbia-as-a-survivor_b_7108594.html
The case is obviously different from the Rolling Stone article hoax, because journalists are only reporting the allegations of the lawsuit. But I await to see if journalists and Columbia students and staff will approach these allegations with care and caution, or if it will set off irresponsible journalism and angry mobs as in UVA. It’s too soon to tell, but for now the response has been more subdued and measured than I believe it would have been pre-Jackie Coakley. Maybe something good came out of that travesty after all.
Visa news round-up:
Are U.S. jobs vulnerable to workers with H-1B visas? If you watch the 60 Minutes video, check out the smugness of this exchange.
Bill Whitaker: What are these H-1B visa workers bringing to the table?
Mukesh Aghi: I think they’re bringing a much different skill level.
Mukesh Aghi is president of the U.S.-India Business Council. He has been an executive at India-based outsourcing companies and he was president of IBM India. About 70 percent of the 85,000 H-1B visas given out each year go to workers from India. He says the H-1B visa is just one part of a burgeoning U.S.-India trade relationship that benefits both countries.
Mukesh Aghi: India has become a buyer of U.S. Defense equipment. It’s a two-way trade which is taking place. So, we can’t look at H-1B in isolation itself.
Bill Whitaker: You really believe that the Indian workers are better educated, better skilled, have skills workers do not have?
Mukesh Aghi: No. No. I’m not saying that. I have all the respect to the U.S. worker —
Bill Whitaker: So why are they getting the jobs and the Americans are losing them? Why are they not being done by American workers?
Mukesh Aghi: Well, I think you have to ask the– the companies who are taking those decisions.
Bill Whitaker: ‘Cause it’s cheaper.
Mukesh Aghi: That’s one factor. Every company is out there to make money with the cheapest possible way itself.
Bill Whitaker: And that’s what’s happening.
Mukesh Aghi: Well, I would say so.
Losing Wisconsin must have really hurt the left and media, because here comes the cliches and group-think reporting:
Wisconsin Dairies Struggle to Keep Immigrant Workers
Gilles and her brothers, co-owners of the farm, have had to raise pay in recent years by several dollars to a starting wage of about $10.50 an hour just to keep immigrant workers from leaving for higher pay at another farm. Meanwhile, the flow of workers has slowed.
In fact, in 2015, more people returned to Mexico than came into the United States, according to the Pew Research Center, which tracks Hispanic trends in America.
Dairy farmers fear Trump’s immigration policies
Without the foreign-born help, many farmers said they would be forced to quit milking cows because not enough other people are willing to accept such physically demanding jobs for $13 an hour.
“If you remove Mexican labor, farms would go out of business. That’s a given,” Rosenow said.
Apple orchard owners and strawberry farmers have echoed the same sentiment, saying their fruit could rot in the fields.
So one farm was until recently paying “several dollars” below $10.50 for “physically demanding” work? And they wonder why they can’t find workers.
Not only milk and produce, but did you know amusement parks are also at risk?
Businesses getting creative to get around visa limits for foreign workers
This year, only the 66,000 workers are allowed. Some members of Congress hoped it would force companies to find more Americans, perhaps by offering better wages or better working conditions, such as giving employees regular hours.
But locally, companies say they must get foreign workers. They say there aren’t any Americans who want to work a half-year, running Great Escape rides or cleaning village bathroom stalls during the tourist season. Young people aren’t available in April, May, September and October, so foreign workers must fill in, they say.
……
Students on J-1 visas can also travel the country for 30 days after their job ends, allowing them to visit other areas.
I wonder how many never go home?
Redpill a friend today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pseLTrcXJFU
He called it on both of them well before their respective implosions.Replies: @donut
I never cared for Carlin , I think his only talent was determining which way the wind was blowing . My own personal experience with Irishmen was that they would betray a shipmate for an hour of OT .
Tom Wolfe would disagree with your Irish assessment.
In "Bonfire of the Vanities" he stated that the Irish are the very last to sell out or betray out!Replies: @Brutusale
Tongue-in-cheek I bill myself as the recipient of the Steve Sailer Gilt Edge for Outstanding Internet Commentary. Luke Ford and Dennis Dale are billing themselves merely as regular commenters here:
I guess Cornel West wore out his welcome.Replies: @Another Anon, @JohnnyD, @Mr. Blank
West is a pretty fascinating guy. Apparently he’s a genuine heavyweight intellectual, but for some damn reason that probably only makes sense to him, he feels the need to knock about 50 points off his IQ and adopt the manners and style of a black preacher from Mississippi. The results are about as successful as most bookish, highly-intelligent folks who pretend to be “down” with the proles, but because he’s black, people nod gravely and give golf-tournament applause to his act instead of pointing and laughing.
It was full of "A=B, B=C, therefore the alphabet is racist" nonsense. An extended op-ed, full of assertions with no citations or even much of an attempt make an argument. If he is an heavyweight intellectual, he certainly hid it well while writing that silly book.
https://twitter.com/eladsinned/status/843946500602310657Replies: @Harry Baldwin
But how many Steve Sailer Gilt Edges have you received? Who has the most? I’m sure there are some aces among us, even double aces. I collected four back when he was handing them out like participation trophies, but he’s really tightened up. Maybe he found out there’s a fixed limit on them, like bit-coins.
I haven't seen many lately--but I've been on Twitter more than here recently.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
At least one Black man has a good job even if he didn’t fulfill his contract. But apparently Blacks in Los Angeles are losing out to another part of the rainbow coalition.
In my experience, anyone worth listening to for a full hour will usually come speak at any university within reasonable travel distance for free. Charles Murray most likely didn’t get a single shekel for nearly getting assaulted at Middlebury.
So, if any of you are in a position to set up talks at an university, I highly recommend it. They’ll usually stick around for lunch afterwards, too.
He rather infamously released a horrible rap album because for some reason he thought that he as a black famous person he could rap and because there was something “deep” about that silly little pop music genre because it was “black” (nevermind that rap not only came from bad spoken word poetry of the 1960s-70s era but also evolved from certain strains of 1960-1980s white country music and was pushed by Jewish record company owners into being a “black only “genre):
http://www.campusreform.org/?ID=8947
The University of Oregon recently spent $41,500 to bring microaggression scholar Ta-Nehisi Coates to campus, courtesy of the UO School of Journalism, but some students felt "cheated" by the brevity of his latest lecture.
A book, or, at least, a blog post, should be written about the history of microaggressions someday.Replies: @Steve Sailer
Why are they complaining his speech was short? He’s a specialist in micro-addression.
West is a clown, a laughable stereotype of a an affirmative action black intellectual with a 1960s mindset. He’s Morgan Freeman from Stand By Me in the early scenes where Freeman is in his hippie phase, except without the gravitas and ten times as much word salad. The Klan in its heyday couldn’t have invented a more perfectly hilarious stereotype of the vapidity Affirmative action hires could be.
West’s only saving grace, much like Alan Dershowitz, is that like Dershowitz, he’s a true believer in the 1960s-1970s ideals the Hippies were chanting about. Neither got the memo that the chants were written by Moscow in an attempt to subvert US culture and had no real intellectual foundation or moral basis, and were just good theater. As a result, West and Dershowitz are bewildered that Leftists are turning into jackbooted violent thugs over free speech, much like the true believer Soviet revolutionaries were mystified when Lenin and Stalin began liquidating people in waves.
More Hate Slander
http://www.newyorkupstate.com/capital-region/2017/03/jewish_man_arrested_after_spray_painting_swastikas_on_his_own_home_in_upstate_ny.html
Lots of fun up north over a Canadian Senator (and Pentecostal minister) 's affair with a teenage girl.
Lawyer says calls for his resignation are racist.
The lawyer for embattled Sen. Don Meredith says his client feels he would not be facing the same level of criticism over his relationship with a teenage girl if he were a member of the “old white boys club.”
There’s a lynch mob mentality that’s going on right now that’s not helpful to anyone,” said lawyer Selwyn Pieters.https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2017/03/19/racism-at-play-in-criticisms-of-don-meredith-senators-lawyer-says.htmlReplies: @Buffalo Joe, @Jim Don Bob
Wait! I thought Don Meredith was dead. Wasn’t he white?
Funniest thing I ever did see.
If Guillermo was pumped with steroids, this might be him.
https://twitter.com/TEN_GOP/status/843657960303730688
Good to know he half-assimilated to the ways of American Culture.
Another illegal who hates America but will do anything to stay here and than go back to his home country… presumably because there are too many people like him there who aren’t good for anything.
That’s because they were too high to remember what they did at the last show.
I knew a guy in my field 20 years ago who I thought was really smart. Then he told me he had seen the Dead 127 times.
Are U.S. jobs vulnerable to workers with H-1B visas? If you watch the 60 Minutes video, check out the smugness of this exchange.
Bill Whitaker: What are these H-1B visa workers bringing to the table?
Mukesh Aghi: I think they’re bringing a much different skill level.
Mukesh Aghi is president of the U.S.-India Business Council. He has been an executive at India-based outsourcing companies and he was president of IBM India. About 70 percent of the 85,000 H-1B visas given out each year go to workers from India. He says the H-1B visa is just one part of a burgeoning U.S.-India trade relationship that benefits both countries.
Mukesh Aghi: India has become a buyer of U.S. Defense equipment. It’s a two-way trade which is taking place. So, we can’t look at H-1B in isolation itself.
Bill Whitaker: You really believe that the Indian workers are better educated, better skilled, have skills workers do not have?
Mukesh Aghi: No. No. I’m not saying that. I have all the respect to the U.S. worker --
Bill Whitaker: So why are they getting the jobs and the Americans are losing them? Why are they not being done by American workers?
Mukesh Aghi: Well, I think you have to ask the-- the companies who are taking those decisions.
Bill Whitaker: ‘Cause it’s cheaper.
Mukesh Aghi: That’s one factor. Every company is out there to make money with the cheapest possible way itself.
Bill Whitaker: And that’s what’s happening.
Mukesh Aghi: Well, I would say so.
Losing Wisconsin must have really hurt the left and media, because here comes the cliches and group-think reporting:
Wisconsin Dairies Struggle to Keep Immigrant Workers
Gilles and her brothers, co-owners of the farm, have had to raise pay in recent years by several dollars to a starting wage of about $10.50 an hour just to keep immigrant workers from leaving for higher pay at another farm. Meanwhile, the flow of workers has slowed.
In fact, in 2015, more people returned to Mexico than came into the United States, according to the Pew Research Center, which tracks Hispanic trends in America.
Dairy farmers fear Trump's immigration policies
Without the foreign-born help, many farmers said they would be forced to quit milking cows because not enough other people are willing to accept such physically demanding jobs for $13 an hour.
“If you remove Mexican labor, farms would go out of business. That’s a given,” Rosenow said.
Apple orchard owners and strawberry farmers have echoed the same sentiment, saying their fruit could rot in the fields.
So one farm was until recently paying "several dollars" below $10.50 for "physically demanding" work? And they wonder why they can't find workers.
Not only milk and produce, but did you know amusement parks are also at risk?
Businesses getting creative to get around visa limits for foreign workers
This year, only the 66,000 workers are allowed. Some members of Congress hoped it would force companies to find more Americans, perhaps by offering better wages or better working conditions, such as giving employees regular hours.
But locally, companies say they must get foreign workers. They say there aren’t any Americans who want to work a half-year, running Great Escape rides or cleaning village bathroom stalls during the tourist season. Young people aren’t available in April, May, September and October, so foreign workers must fill in, they say.
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Students on J-1 visas can also travel the country for 30 days after their job ends, allowing them to visit other areas.
I wonder how many never go home?Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Milk rotting in the cows!
When reading about the sycophants that sucked up to Nero I thought, ‘Wow, nobody would ever do anything like that in a free society.” Well I could not have been more wrong.
Oregon hicks bought a pig-in-a-poke, and Coates has passed warm and steamy cowpies off for fine dining.
At least with the Nero buttkissers their lives were at stake. Here the explanation is what?
Was Lincoln’s house divided separated to a greater degree than the house we live in? And how will this division be resolved?
I chuckled internally.
I would think that a shorter address by TNC would be best. I doubt anyone is paying attention during such an address. Back when people used to attend church, if you quizzed people about the sermon you would find out that most people were just zoned out, not paying attention. They viewed the weekly mass as some sort of inoculation against hellfire, not as something to pay attention to (not that you would get most to admit such). I imagine that it is the same with such a modern-day religious service.
Not a fan of Mick or Bruce but I understand from those who've seen them live that they don't just phone their performances in. (Maybe they do now that they're so old but they didn't in their primes.) I'm sure they were expending lots of energy. Certainly more than Genius T. Coates does when condescending to lecture his fans. I doubt his black body ever works up a sweat.Replies: @oddsbodkins, @Clyde
A friend saw the stones three years ago. They work very hard and they still crush it.
About 20 years ago, I knew someone who helped administer a sort of “world speakers” forum at the local university. He said that people like Desmond Tutu – and other social reform religious leaders – would get something like $50,000 for one speaking engagement. It’s possible these high minded speakers gave a lot of that money away, but I wouldn’t count on it.
donut:
Tom Wolfe would disagree with your Irish assessment.
In “Bonfire of the Vanities” he stated that the Irish are the very last to sell out or betray out!
Hey guys . I am watching “My Cousin Vinnie” . First of all Marisa Tomei is hot . And that Dago should know that grits are the same as polenta . I must say that Marisa has a very good filmography she has done good work since then , some misses of course . How could she possibly know that Denis Leary could destroy the good writing of any show ? And drag his costars down “all for the big salad” . Although he has done some good work as well . I guess what I mean to say is that Marisa is a craftsman …er craftswoman. I can’t recall a bad performance from her . It’s possible that she has the Michael Caine syndrome .
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_the_Devil_Knows_You%27re_DeadReplies: @donut
I’ve only got one–and it was certainly more in the public-service or even ass-kissing category than in the rhetorical-brilliance category. But still … it’s mine.
I haven’t seen many lately–but I’ve been on Twitter more than here recently.
But, but, but….it has electrolytes!
He was handpicked.
Like Barak.
Like Oprah.
Like De Ray.
Van Jones is an example of quite inteligent alfa on the other side of the aisle ; his assessment on Trump is very often basically full of backhand compliments.
Zer Experts don’ t like his leftie- leftover opinions when it comes to the most important tiny country in the world ( hint; it ain’t Luxembourg) so Van J. will continue to dwell in CNN’s underworld for time being.
I haven't seen many lately--but I've been on Twitter more than here recently.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
I’ve got one and one of my comments was the inspiration for an iSteve article. But that was a while ago. I guess I need better material.
The pithy absurdity here is that Coates has achieved great success from his own oppression.
Why doesn't Sailer do public speaking engagements at universities and raise his public profile?Replies: @bored identity
Sailer ain’t oppresed.
He priviliged.
He attends fancy Opera and he chugs fancy $7.99 wines.
He ain’t care when The Black Hennesy tinny meany noBODY got literally shaking-lynched under the Great Escalator of Whiteness.
Sailer bad.
Yes.
Anyway, the speakers are used to recruit students to come to the school. Liberal parents read that X college invited so-and-so to speak, and say, Oh, they must be a goodwhite college filled with goodwhitethought. Let's give them my kid to be properly indoctrinated and a lot of goodwhite guiltymoney along with it.
PC hiring of grievance speakers is the equivalent of a modern-day potlatch, and it's akin to what the big man of some primitive tribe does. They throw a huge party and give away stuff to gain support from the tribe and prove what a terrific guy they are who deserves to be in charge. In the case of colleges, the invited grievance speaker is supposed to symbolize a poor and oppressed class of people, and the yokels in the audience are being taught that you should feel good at the end of the speech, and that they too should give away lots of money to the oppressed (or at least one of their symbolic exemplars) when they actually get some later on in life, because it will make them feel like goodwhites who deserve to be in charge and praised for being noble. It's also the modern-day equivalent of religious tithing for atheists and other unchurched people, though this giving of money to just a single occasional person actually has very little effect on improving the status of an entire class of people, but don't tell goodwhites that or they'll get upset.Replies: @Thea
Seems a good time to take Peter Theil’s advice.
Surely, some parents think “I do not want to send my children to the local Uni where Tim Wise just spoke”
At some point this has to collapse under its own weight, doesn’t it?
This is trickling down to high schools. My kid was assigned summer reading that was always either by an author of color or by a white author saying how beastly whites were. Compliance is ensured by a pro forma test at the beginning of the school year.
You bigot, Steve Sailer! Shame on you! You see, T. Genius Coates had to run for his dear life to save his black body from being lynched by the KKK mob at U. of Oregon. That’s why he didn’t finish his lecture. He had to be escorted to a safe space and barely escaped the white supremacist throng who was furious at our gentle genius Coates for challenging the white privilege of people who believe they are white.
Wait a second, that happened at Middlebury College! And for a different reason although not very clear to the students nor to me.
[Coates]-- and for that matter any academic speaker-- isn't "edutainment" that folks "get their money's worth" from. They have arguments to make. I don't see any comments here claiming that he didn't make a complete argument, that they didn't understand where he was going with his comments, or that those comments were inaccurate or insignificant. Academic speeches are not concerts; a speech is about the substance of ideas and evidence for those claims. Kurt claims the content wasn't engaging-- to me, when Coates discussed the exploitation of student athletes in universities, the significance of census statuses, the extended analogy of slavery to homeownership, and the fraught ethics and pragmatics of voting... I felt engaged. It seemed the crowd who gave him multiple standing ovations thought so too. These are tremendously important issues that Coates has studied and written about extensively via his blog, his journalism, his books, and he was kind enough to discuss with the school at a competative rate with other speakers of his status. I was thrilled that a speech of substance was heard by 5500 UO community members, and I am grateful to the donors who made this happen, and most of all to Coates for taking time to talk to us. I'd love the Emerald to devote more time to the issues Coates discussed, not the literal time he was on stage. One is interesting and vital... the other utterly banal.Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Another, Thank you, quite informative.
My guess is Coats just ran out of stuff to say and couldn't recover.Replies: @Frau Katze, @BigFire, @Mr. Anon, @Anonym, @Olorin, @donut, @Father O'Hara
Ran out of bad stuff to say about YT? Doubt that! Fool just lazy!
electric (-ity) + (exec)ute
Electrocution is by definition to death.
Otherwise you're just shocked, zapped, or bitten (to use terms favored by Sparkys OMA). Or struck as by lightning.Replies: @Autochthon
I’m as big a stickler for precision in language as anyone, but I must contend that in this case, as with, e.g., the word “decimate,” the word has undeniably evolved to carry its new meaning even in formal and proper English.
:D
What sort of security fee did he have pay the university like conservative speakers have to do.
Electricians care more about accurate English, for obvious reasons.
😀
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rZHwGnGrm_kReplies: @fish, @rw95
What is this originally from?
The Baltimore Sun is running a 4 part series on diversity in schools that would be right up your alley. http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/investigations/bs-md-school-segregation-series-henderson-20170321-story.html
Today is part 2 and discusses the failure of a week financed charter school near Johns Hopkins hospital that is a great example of various liberal subgroups pointing fingers at each other. Teachers, administrators, local African American residents, foundations, and the colleges involved (jhu and Morgan State u, an hbcu).
I'd love to see you cover this topic. I'm actually a high school teacher at a large and diverse Baltimore high school and this experience has really woken me up to the possible future of the US if we continue acting like parenting and values don't matter.Replies: @Pericles
How would you compare your job with The Wire Season 4?
I became a teacher after ten yrs working a 6-figure-but-dead-end job in middle management at a DC lobbying firm. I am not that idealistic, I set realistic goals for each kid and expect then to do their part. If they don't, I call home or refer them to admins to handle. I generally don't have to do either very much.
I have a young kid so in the next few years I'll be moving to a very "red" area 20 miles outside the city and I'll probably teach at a blue ribbon school up there. I can't do that now bc I have a provisional certification only good for the city since my grad degree is not education. Next yr I will have a standard license and can teach anywhere.
Sure but the Grateful Dead were a jam band and anti-Rock Stars. No flashy duds on stage. Flannel shirts OK and shorts I see w Bob Wier Band
FWIW, ca. 1993, Leon Weiseltier penned a review of a bevy of Cornel West’s recently published work. He deemed it largely worthless, an exercise in academic’s wordplay that was largely empty of semantic content. The title of the article was quite inflammatory, something along the lines of “The Decline of the Black Intellectual”.
Interesting question. I’ve never actually thought of it that way, despite loving that show and seeing that season as generally accurate. Prezbieliewski was really passive and beta and maybe a bit naive despite being a police officer previously. These types of teachers generally last a few months, tops. Kids see it and pounce on it. Do-gooder liberal TFA and TNTP types also wash out in high percentages because kids feast on the overly idealistic.
I became a teacher after ten yrs working a 6-figure-but-dead-end job in middle management at a DC lobbying firm. I am not that idealistic, I set realistic goals for each kid and expect then to do their part. If they don’t, I call home or refer them to admins to handle. I generally don’t have to do either very much.
I have a young kid so in the next few years I’ll be moving to a very “red” area 20 miles outside the city and I’ll probably teach at a blue ribbon school up there. I can’t do that now bc I have a provisional certification only good for the city since my grad degree is not education. Next yr I will have a standard license and can teach anywhere.
Not a fan of Mick or Bruce but I understand from those who've seen them live that they don't just phone their performances in. (Maybe they do now that they're so old but they didn't in their primes.) I'm sure they were expending lots of energy. Certainly more than Genius T. Coates does when condescending to lecture his fans. I doubt his black body ever works up a sweat.Replies: @oddsbodkins, @Clyde
Black rappers break a sweat because they are committed to their illusion. So I have to think that G+++ Coats does the same at least halfway. If he is an awful public speaker, at getting bribed via university speaking engagements, word will get around and his current $40,000 price will become $20,000.
I think T Coates shelf live expires May of 2018. He should go for all the Benjamins he can scoop up now. By 2019 The Atlantic will have a new prime black totem installed. btw ever see the dead tree Atlantic? Very slick and full of newer the type corporate advertisers/
Wait a second, that happened at Middlebury College! And for a different reason although not very clear to the students nor to me.Replies: @Ivy
Did his safe space have kitties and puppies, or ducklings?
Bruce Springsteen varies his sets more than the others. Hard to believe but this hash slinger of working class Americana is very big in Europe and performs in stadiums there, Australia, anywhere.
Has G+enius Coates never heard of teleprompters?Replies: @Frau Katze, @Ganderson, @Kylie, @Brutusale
As always, The Simpsons riffs on this.
I imagine there are many Ohio State Buckeyes willing to take issue with your concept of a “State” school’s inferiority.
Tom Wolfe would disagree with your Irish assessment.
In "Bonfire of the Vanities" he stated that the Irish are the very last to sell out or betray out!Replies: @Brutusale
Kind of like the Swedes thinking that these nice Muzzie refugees are just swell! Just don’t turn your back on one.
Marisa Tomei was also good in Before the Devil Know You’re Dead. A fine film by Sidney Lumet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_the_Devil_Knows_You%27re_Dead
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Before_the_Devil_Knows_You%27re_DeadReplies: @donut
Oh , yes ” Before the Devil Know You’re Dead” , one of the grimmest films ever made . The other was “Owning Mahoney” also starring Philip Seymour Hoffman . No wonder he killed himself .
Thanks for the tip on Owning Mahoney.
Did he work with them or observe them ?
Philip Seymour Hoffman was a helluva actor. A same he was a junkie, too.
Thanks for the tip on Owning Mahoney.
“You know, when you are making that kind of money, you can actually afford to insert a rest day in your schedule.”
Maybe Coates is like MLK. Maybe he’s getting so much strange “road pussy” he doesn’t want a day of rest. Let us pray that this is the case, ’cause it will lead him to an early grave.
I read his book “Race Matters” about 20 years ago.
It was full of “A=B, B=C, therefore the alphabet is racist” nonsense. An extended op-ed, full of assertions with no citations or even much of an attempt make an argument. If he is an heavyweight intellectual, he certainly hid it well while writing that silly book.
Coates is an affirmative action charlatan.
You’re serious ? Coates is way lower than 115. He’s a genuine dummy. Obama at 115 sounds alright to me. Loury is a genuinely bright guy. Not physicist level but IQ130 to IQ137 ? Sure. He sounds to me like he’s smarter than I am and I’m way above IQ115.