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I find it ironic that the CURRENT "Cherokee Nation" said Elizabeth Warren claiming Native American dna is inappropriate, when most of the CURRENT Cherokee leadership consists of fake $5 PRETENDians, who went out of their way to expel the Black Cherokees https://t.co/TGsVj1PjUB
— Tariq Nasheed 🇺🇸 (@tariqnasheed) October 15, 2018
Tariq Nasheed is right. From the Washington Post in 2011:
One of the nation’s largest American Indian tribes has sent letters to about 2,800 descendants of slaves once owned by its members, revoking their citizenship and cutting their medical care, food stipends, low-income homeowners’ assistance and other services.
The 2018 Person Of Color Of The Year Elizabeth Warren is ripe for parody on South Park. I really hope Trey Parker and Matt Stone go hard on her.
LOL. The GOP usually gets a Warren sized share of the Native vote. Could Trump dramatically increase that share? It would still be tiny, and a net negative, but it would be hilarious if it happened.
Exactly how does having ancestors owned by a Cherokee make one Cherokee? This is just getting stranger and stranger!
A: Because he is not very smart.
This went on from colonial times when the Cherokees bought slaves to recently when the Cherokees decided to cut the blacks off the tribal rolls. It was done to divert the black Cherokee’s money and benefits to the Indian CherokeesReplies: @Anonymous
Steve:
You’re the one who has been deferring to the official Cherokee Nation as the authority on who does and who doesn’t have Cherokee ancestry. That has always seemed misplaced to me. They aren’t an ultimate arbiter of that factual question.
OT DNC sued over PP BS
https://dailycaller.com/2018/10/15/carter-page-sue-dnc-dossier/
As far as Narrative destruction goes, this ranks up there with “the Inuit are not Canada’s First Nations” and “the people who built Stonehenge were genocided by the English.”
What about white persons adopted by Indian tribes–are their descendants eligible for tribal memberships? Daniel Boone was adopted by a Shawnee chief and given the name “Big Turtle.” Can Boone’s descendants claim membership in the Shawnee tribe today?
Aaron Boone is currently the manager of the New York Yankees.
So the question is:
Can you be both a Yankee and Indian at the same time, without being named Elizabeth Warren?Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Forbes
Wow it fits, she is Cherokee! Elizabeth Warren claims she a direct descendant of Stand Watie, the Cherokee confederate general and slave holder. Maybe she should run as a Republican? On the other hand she did use the affirmative action , being all 1/32 or so , to get the Harvard gig.
I think high cheekbones is proof that Picohantas owes reparations to Black Cherokees. Has she even responded to charges that her ancestors owned slaves?
hahaa. Shit happens. People always remember their parents sacrifices…reality. And, the sacrifices happened in small towns across the nation – mostly in the 70’s in the Northeast.
Wait, what? The Cherokee nation provided food stamps and Section 8? I can’t imagine why they’d want to be rid of these fupasloths.
If they’re supposedly their own nation, do they even vote in American elections? I don’t know any Indians, so I really don’t know. However, YOU ARE LUGASH!, so …
Who would dare call it Literally Treason?
Except me, of course.
Expelling? Hmmm, expelling. This could be useful. Expelling anchor babies and their relations. Expelling Puerto Ricans. Think of the possibilities. This expelling stuff bears looking into.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6277625/South-African-court-hears-brilliant-student-gang-raped-left-die.html
Tiny Duck's Heroes. We need more of these people.Replies: @Anon
One of the problems we have now is the idea that with a fixed geographic territory a nation *must* put up with people who refuse to conform to the norms (traditions, culture, etc.) of the nation, because they happen to be parked in the nation's territory.
In the before time it was simpler. If you didn't want to be part of a nation--obey it's customs, traditons, laws--you were out. For a serious violation/threat, obviously you're punished/killed. But generally if you want to do your own thing--great, leave. There wasn't this idea that ever miscreant, criminal, bozo, asswipe was the nation's problem to solve.
All our criminals who shown they don't respect their fellow Americans--show 'em the door.
But, in our case, we have about half the people who basically have latched onto the American nation, like some sort of fungus--including most of our "elites"--who have little to no respect for Americans, our history, traditions and culture and often outright contempt. Cut them loose and our problems solve themselves.
Expelling. It's a good thing.Replies: @kaganovitch
You know what’d be really cool. Get the feather-Indians peeved at the D’s due to this Fauxahontas thing, and then just spread the word that “Indians are trending GOP.” Make sure to spread that word all around the curry suppliers, unix sys admins., desktop support journals, Diwali celebrations, New Jersey, and everywhere else the dot-Indians hang out. Get out the Indian votes of all sorts… they don’t know what the heck is going on.
Tariq Nasheed =
Dates Iraq hen.
IQ earns death.
Well, there goes the Dems’ chance to take Oklahoma and South Dakota.
Indian givers!
I knew this half-assed electrician guy back in the 90’s who claimed he was a full-blooded Comanche. He would travel to Germany and do a war dance with his troop in front of the German gals. The gals would be all legs-spread after that. Tall tales I thought at thought at the time, but now I don’t have any reason to doubt him.
According to S. C. Gwynne’s Empire of the Summer Moon a full-blooded Comanche would be a very rare find. The Comanche race were visually distinct from other Amerinds They were short and long-torsoed. They were chased out of the northern regions by the Sioux, Black Hawks, and other taller tribes.
When the Comanche settled in Texas they took up a mounted (they learned to tame horses) nomadic life style. Their woman-folk had a difficult time bringing a baby to term with this bumpy chaos so the men went hunting for other tribe’s children, Cynthia Ann Parker being the most famous.
So anyway, if your looking at some lovely Nordic woman with a sparkle of lust and have lost your patience, tell her your a Comanche. She can’t prove you wrong.
I was wondering when would you write about this. It was huge news here in Oklahoma for years. You could tell the media’s head was near exploding on this one. Who/whom?
Sorry for all the attempted snarky comments, iSteve, but damn, the jokes from this thing are just endless. I don’t know where to start.
That does bring up a serious point though. President Trump, bless his heart*, has a hard time keeping his hilarious snarky comments to himself. That is usually a good thing, but if he comes up with some good ones, he may just negate the boost from the Indians being angry at Elizabeth Speaks-with-forked-tongue Warren. They won’t know which war path to go down come election day.
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* I mean that in a good way here.
Speaking of people with odd names…..
Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing Captain America……
A Warren = 1/1024th of something.
“The solution was extremely dilute: only two or three Warrens.”
“My old Atari 400 had 8 Warrens of a megabyte of RAM (8 WMb).”
Relevant:
Isn’t it likely that just about any person who has American ancestors going back three or more generations will have native American DNA?
This link even quotes Steve Sailer.
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2018/10/16/claims-that-us-is-a-genetic-melting-pot-appear-overblown-if-youre-white/
I don’t blame them for kicking out the descendants of their slaves. I mean, come on. Did Rockefeller’s maid get a share of the estate? Give them their severance pay and a heart-felt thanks and then give them the boot.
So Warren is living proof of the Lennon song, “Woman is the n-word of the world?”
OT This happened, and we let it happen.
https://forward.com/schmooze/412032/meet-the-93-year-old-israeli-just-crowned-miss-holocaust-survivor/
Yeah, the winner’s a Ringer.
…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKxtXzAgGewReplies: @Jefferson
Elizabeth Warren 0.00001% Oppressed.
You're the one who has been deferring to the official Cherokee Nation as the authority on who does and who doesn't have Cherokee ancestry. That has always seemed misplaced to me. They aren't an ultimate arbiter of that factual question.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Forbes
They are legally, and Prof. Warren is a law professor from Oklahoma. If she were in a different field, I could imagine her pleading ignorance to the fact that Indian tribes are given legal power to determine membership criteria. But being a law professor from Oklahoma, it’s hard to claim that. If she wants to get into an argument with the Cherokee Nation over whether she deserves to be a Cherokee or not, that would be one thing, but she doesn’t want to have that argument.
At the end of the day a tribe is just a legal entity with certain property (reservation land) and legal rights (limited sovereignty and the potential right to operate a casino).
The U.S. lets the tribes define their own membership rules. So it's a political scramble to divide the spoils in as few shares as possible. Genetics be damned.
For example, the Agua Caliente band of indians operates a big casino near Palm Springs. They consist of about 20 mostly white multi-millionaires.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Bliss
Like Richard Harris in A Man Called Horse.
Ritual of the Sun,hon?Replies: @pyrrhus
Well, she certainly looks like she could be a blackjack dealer on the 8am Monday morning shift in an Indian casino.
Are you saying "right" as in "he's pointing out some policing the Cherokee did that he doesn't like (because it negatively affected some of his fellow blacks)"? Or something more?
I'd assume this "Cherokee" blacks have received multiple injections of Cherokee DNA over the generations. But my guess is that they would be considerably less Cherokee than the non-black officially "Cherokee" Cherokee--basically blacks. Kicking them out would seem like the right thing to do on both tribal cohesion and genetic grounds. Guessing here.Replies: @Desiderius
She already failed to predict that the DNA test would backfire on her.
Warren is a lying Sacagawea.
Nice one, Mr. Anon.
Totally off-topic, but remember the brief biography of Barack Obama that his literary agent put out? The one that, as late as 2007, said he was born in Kenya?
I was just arguing about it with strangers on the internet, as you do, and I noticed that the 2007 bio has a second untruth in it:
I don’t know if anybody else picked up on that before, but I know our gracious host wrote a book on the subject, and therefore might be interested, if he isn’t already aware.
As we all know, naming Kenya as his birthplace was a mistake made by an intern at his then-literary agency in 1991 which sadly went uncorrected for 16 years, despite Obama’s subsequently becoming something of a big deal, not to mention technically changing literary agencies in 1994 and 2003.
I wonder if this second mistake was made by an intern also? Not the same intern from 1991, of course, since she became a partner at the new agency in 1995 – she’s actually the Goderich in Dystel & Goderich.
(I’m guessing he was represented by Jane Dystel, since he was signed with Acton & Dystel in 1991, Dystel & Goderich in 2007, and Dystel, Goderich & Bourret today. Jane Dystel started her own firm in 1994, which became Dystel & Goderich in 2003, hence the changing agencies.
Presumably they would have had to get all-new publicity materials on those occasions; it’s a shame they didn’t take either of those opportunities to have Obama double-check his bio.)
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/us/politics/04obama.html
Fauxchahontas is trying to do the same thing here, but it is blowing up spectacularly. They were laughing about it on the Today show!
Needless, since the entire sentence is filled with questionable claims--none of it can be believed to be true.
The only "Obama with friends from Hawaii" things I've ever seen are photos of him golfing with what look like wealthy donors.
Everyone in Hawaii should claim they grew up with him but people from there never mention him. Still circumstantial but very odd.Replies: @whorefinder
(i.e. he was originally bred by the CIA to be used as an agent of influence in a variety of possible locations from east Africa to Indonesia)
“If she wants to get into an argument with the Cherokee Nation over whether she deserves to be a Cherokee or not, that would be one thing, but she doesn’t want to have that argument.”
Elizabeth Warren does not want to have that argument with The Cherokee Nation because that would be Whitesplaining.
Since 6 to 10 generations ago would be approximately 1620 to 1770, and since slavery was a component of Cherokee society prior to European contact and, beginning around 1700, the Cherokee kept black slaves, looks like Ms. Warren does descend from slave-holders. This should automatically disqualify her from holding any public office, at least any office where she represents people of color.
“Picohantas,” as in one-trillionth Indian? That’s brilliant! (For the 2% of the population who will actually get the reference.)
[Thank you Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.]Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Remember Jeb’s “Please Clap” from the ’16 campaign?
They call you a "creepy porn lawyer", you fool!
Is the foo shits, wear it!
Frankie P
You mow your lawn - even every week - and nobody calls you a lawn-mower.
But you f**k just one dog,...........
It’s not that he could be troubled by anything so lowbrow as a moral question, you see; he’s outraged by the public health issue!
According to S. C. Gwynne’s Empire of the Summer Moon a full-blooded Comanche would be a very rare find. The Comanche race were visually distinct from other Amerinds They were short and long-torsoed. They were chased out of the northern regions by the Sioux, Black Hawks, and other taller tribes.
When the Comanche settled in Texas they took up a mounted (they learned to tame horses) nomadic life style. Their woman-folk had a difficult time bringing a baby to term with this bumpy chaos so the men went hunting for other tribe's children, Cynthia Ann Parker being the most famous.
So anyway, if your looking at some lovely Nordic woman with a sparkle of lust and have lost your patience, tell her your a Comanche. She can't prove you wrong.Replies: @DuanDiRen, @YetAnotherAnon, @Olorin
Empire of the Summer Moon was fantastic. Cannot recommend it too highly, just a great read.
A couple of points. Real Indians laugh at white people like Warren who claim to have a great great great grandparent who is Indian. Whether they do or not is irrelevant. They are still white people pretending to be Indians.
As a Choctaw friend of mine told me, "White people think it is cool to be an Indian, but not cool to look like an Indian."
My second point is that real Indians (as opposed to fake Indians like Warren) don't like white people, but they consider blacks lesser beings. They have a grudging respected for whitey, but if you want to hear some serious negro bashing, come to Oklahoma and hang out with some real Indians.
I haven’t read it, but the title comes up over and over in discussion, so it sounds good.
by T.R. FehrenbachThat is the book you want to start with. Then Empire of the Summer Moon. Then Comanche Empire by Pekka Hamalainen.If you can find the memoir of Rachel Plummer that is also awesome. She was captured with Cynthia Ann Parker, the mother of Quannah Parker. Rachel and Cynthia were cousins.Captured by Scott Zesch is also quite good.The Comanches were the baddest dudes ever. They eventually ran the Spanish out of the Continental U.S.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Simply Simon
Does her percentage of Native American lineage also make her a Minnehaha??
[Thank you Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.]
Minnehaha Creek empties into Lake Hiawatha. Shouldn't that be the other way around? Oh, wait... she goes through him, and out the other side.
Let's not even get into Nokomis and Keewaydin.
Two good ones retweeted by Queen Ann:
Twitter wouldn’t let me have it but there’s a third one where a self-described lesbian icon calls Dr Prof Ford “braver than any marine” and gets the reply “that’s true, I’m not brave enough to lie to a Senate committee.”
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6278889/Death-sentence-vacated-man-threw-children-bridge.html
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6277625/South-African-court-hears-brilliant-student-gang-raped-left-die.html
Tiny Duck’s Heroes. We need more of these people.
I think they are two almost totally distinct issues: tribal membership and genetic ancestry.
At the end of the day a tribe is just a legal entity with certain property (reservation land) and legal rights (limited sovereignty and the potential right to operate a casino).
The U.S. lets the tribes define their own membership rules. So it’s a political scramble to divide the spoils in as few shares as possible. Genetics be damned.
For example, the Agua Caliente band of indians operates a big casino near Palm Springs. They consist of about 20 mostly white multi-millionaires.
I know some folks from a tribe in northern Nevada. They're out in the boondocks and they don't have a casino. They spent several years waiting for a cash settlement (over mineral rights, I believe) that netted each tribal member a whopping $12,000.
Warren is whiter than Ivory soap. Ivory soap is only 99.44%.
Google: We regret our prior, uncharacteristically ethical decision not to cooperate with the bloodstained censors of the People’s Republic of China:
https://www.wired.com/story/wired-25-sundar-pichai-china-censored-search-engine/amp
It’s just business. If Mao’s heirs want data we collect “accidentally” on Americans, well that’s business too.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/lifesite/James_Damore.jpg
Poquitohantas?
This could be especially appropriate as the DNA test apparently can’t differentiate between Amerindians from North American and those from South America.
So maybe she’s just part Mexican.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
https://www.wired.com/story/wired-25-sundar-pichai-china-censored-search-engine/amp
It's just business. If Mao's heirs want data we collect "accidentally" on Americans, well that's business too.Replies: @Lot
The one thing Google will never tolerate is American conservatives. Immediate firing offense:
One of Daniel Boone’s descending lineages are the Boones of Major League Baseball, who developed three straight generation of above-average professional ballplayers from Ray Boone to Bob Boone to Bret and Aaron Boone.
Aaron Boone is currently the manager of the New York Yankees.
So the question is:
Can you be both a Yankee and Indian at the same time, without being named Elizabeth Warren?
I'd be surprised if she carried the vestigial Yankee vote in Massachusetts, beyond the upper crust.
Liz Warren can't even say that...Replies: @RadicalCenter
OT: RIP Paul Allen.
It’s a complicated confluence of money and race.
Ex-slaves were given pseudo-membership in the Cherokees for awhile, because for a long time it didn’t really pay for Cherokees to be Cherokees, so the more members, the better. Perhaps they charged them a membership fee or got them to buy a bunch of “official” documentation or something to get the tribe some money, or to just get more people to come to the tribal meetings and spend money on tribal lands. It used to be not uncommon for Indian tribes to give dignitaries or bigwigs membership, usually when the celebrity was doing something related (e.g. Johnny Depp got official membership in a tribe within the last 10 years so he could play Tonto in The Lone Ranger so that people wouldn’t scream racism at him).
Blacks liked it because there’s a long history in America of blacks claiming Indian ancestry, usually the more the better. By the mid-19th century, being an Indian was cooler in most Eastern U.S. society than being black, and had a richer, fuller history in the novels of the time, and remained so following the closing of the West.
But then the Indian casinos came into vogue in the last 30 years, and suddenly the tribes realized that the fewer members of X tribe, the bigger the slice of casino money each tribe member got. Hence why the Cherokees suddenly decided to expel these black ex-slaves.
Saileresque bonus: Cherokee Nation has wheeled out a mouthpiece called Rebecca Nagle… and she is not taciturn, not even laconic.
Perhaps if she went through some kind of process,to establish her bona fides.
Like Richard Harris in A Man Called Horse.
Ritual of the Sun,hon?
Who does?
OT: Steve, instead of allowing the D’s to push for statehood for DC/PR and countering with splitting up Texas (that doesn’t seem likely), I have an alternate idea:
Nationalists (i.e. Trumpists) should do something natural to them, and call for the independence of Hawaii and Puerto Rico.
Think about it: Hawaii is solid blue and actually pretty far Left, and its gotten more hate whitey over the last 20 years. Hawaiian nationalism and dislike over that time has increased. What’s more, Hawaii’s been kind of upset by the underhanded tactic of some politicians in California, who have put homeless on planes with a one-way ticket for the beautiful (and welfare-heavy) state of Hawaii.
Nationalists believe nations should have their own split. Splitting PR and HI off of the country would both give those small indigenous populations their own land and cut off the funding to them, as they drain far more than they give. Simply make sure each nation grants a special 1000 year lease to the U.S. military for certain bases still there, get most favored nation status from each, and walk away. We lose 2 blue senators and however many from the house, and stop the flow of PRs rushing into FL to make it blue.
Is this documented anywhere? I would be interested in reading more about it.Replies: @whorefinder
The Cherokees require a person to have an ancestor on the Dawes Rolls as well as documented proof of lineal descent from a genuine Indian. They don’t accept DNA results because they are vague and never specify the actual tribe.
There was already an episode on what Mr Sailer calls “the flight from White” and White people taking DNA tests hoping for at least a trace of another possible ancestry to hitch their identity wagon to. It featured Randy sexually assaulting an Indian chief so a cheek swab will show Native American DNA.
So since Warren being possibly 1/32nd to 1/512th American Indian entitles her to parade around as an American Indian and a person of color, I suppose this means that Richard Spencer is officially black* and is entitled to affirmative action. Forget Duke, Harvard should immediately admit Spencer to its graduate school of government.
*I read somewhere that his DNA test came back as 1% or so black.
You mean the ones enslaved and raped by Indian tribes, usually at a very young age.
But this is all per spec. How it's been down through the ages.
I find it impossible to get excited about Indian savagery or white savagery. This was a war of territorial conquest by an invading tribe--my people. We invaded, they fought a sometimes brutal rearguard action. We won.
Sugarcoating any side of this is a mistake. Tell it like it is--invasion and conquest. (Not this stupid and ahistorical "nation of immigrants" crap.) American belongs to me, by conquest, *and* to the Indians still around.
The important take home here is … wake the hell up and do not let this happen to us!Replies: @Desiderius, @anonymous
The above is mainly concerning Plains Indians, especially the Comanches. There were many German immigrants that settled in Texas when it was still controlled by the Comanches. For some reason, these German children, if they were the right age, made great Comanches and were some of their fiercest fighters against the Whites.
I'm telling you, do yourself a favor and do a deep dive into Comanche history. And White captive stories. It is a fascinating history.
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1052056736444502016Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Almost Missouri, @Frankie P, @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @ChrisZ
Yet another imbecile who doesn’t get it: Normal Standards Do Not Apply To The God-Emporer.
Well, compared to what would have happened to them pre-1865, getting your benefits reduced is kind of mild.
*I read somewhere that his DNA test came back as 1% or so black.Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Jefferson
I just ate a 500 gram steak. It took a while but until digestion the total DNA in my body is as much from a cow as Elizabeth Warren’s is from the Native Americans. That’s got to get me some sort of professorship!
It is amazing that no matter the situation, blacks will always be there looking for some sort of handout.
Warren has lost weight. She is thin and gaunt and crazier. More strident. Maybe she looks more Indian now because her high cheekbones stand out more. Helped by plastic surgery? I would say they are 3x more prominent than before. Her hair is shorter. She looks more lesbian than five years ago.
The best part is this fanatic is going to parade around this worthless DNA test, which will make her look like a jackass.
More likely they are afraid that DNA proof would become necessary and many of them would be exposed as frauds. Or at least not as Indian as they claim. That has been clear since the Indian chief on Gates’s genealogy show refused testing and claimed it was an insult to his ancestors or whatever (it has been a long time). If tribes insisted that everyone had their DNA analyzed, some would be more Indian than they think, some less, and some not at all. It would create chaos in the tribes and among the leadership.
Ruth Bader Ginsburg should be forced to take a DNA test so that we can verify that the dems dont switch her out with a body double.
Does the Supreme Court use biometric ID?
Nobody is talking about this
According to S. C. Gwynne’s Empire of the Summer Moon a full-blooded Comanche would be a very rare find. The Comanche race were visually distinct from other Amerinds They were short and long-torsoed. They were chased out of the northern regions by the Sioux, Black Hawks, and other taller tribes.
When the Comanche settled in Texas they took up a mounted (they learned to tame horses) nomadic life style. Their woman-folk had a difficult time bringing a baby to term with this bumpy chaos so the men went hunting for other tribe's children, Cynthia Ann Parker being the most famous.
So anyway, if your looking at some lovely Nordic woman with a sparkle of lust and have lost your patience, tell her your a Comanche. She can't prove you wrong.Replies: @DuanDiRen, @YetAnotherAnon, @Olorin
I remember in the 1970s and 80s a LOT of hippy/alternative girls were really big on Native American culture and lore (not the scalping bits, obviously). Even biker girls. Not at all surprised your dancing friend would clean up.
Well, the Indians just learned they don’t even sit at the top of their own totem pole.
I believe the short answer is no, you have to have some Indian blood in you. At the turn of the 19th Century lots of formerly captive Anglos tried to become members of the Commanche and other tribes because there was some cache in it. I may be misremembering, but I don’t think they were successful.
(Although I suppose it's possible that people could have been motivated to try to join a tribe by some cache it was known or thought to possess...)
“If she were in a different field…”
Well, she certainly looks like she could be a blackjack dealer on the 8am Monday morning shift in an Indian casino.
…and cutting their medical care, food stipends, low-income homeowners’ assistance and other services.
As John Stossel has said, this is why American Indians are the poorest group in the U.S. The government has “assisted” them into abject victimhood.
It is a great book. I live in Oklahoma and have several Comanche friends. I have encouraged them to read the book.
A couple of points. Real Indians laugh at white people like Warren who claim to have a great great great grandparent who is Indian. Whether they do or not is irrelevant. They are still white people pretending to be Indians.
As a Choctaw friend of mine told me, “White people think it is cool to be an Indian, but not cool to look like an Indian.”
My second point is that real Indians (as opposed to fake Indians like Warren) don’t like white people, but they consider blacks lesser beings. They have a grudging respected for whitey, but if you want to hear some serious negro bashing, come to Oklahoma and hang out with some real Indians.
I was just arguing about it with strangers on the internet, as you do, and I noticed that the 2007 bio has a second untruth in it:I don't know if anybody else picked up on that before, but I know our gracious host wrote a book on the subject, and therefore might be interested, if he isn't already aware.
As we all know, naming Kenya as his birthplace was a mistake made by an intern at his then-literary agency in 1991 which sadly went uncorrected for 16 years, despite Obama's subsequently becoming something of a big deal, not to mention technically changing literary agencies in 1994 and 2003.
I wonder if this second mistake was made by an intern also? Not the same intern from 1991, of course, since she became a partner at the new agency in 1995 - she's actually the Goderich in Dystel & Goderich.
(I'm guessing he was represented by Jane Dystel, since he was signed with Acton & Dystel in 1991, Dystel & Goderich in 2007, and Dystel, Goderich & Bourret today. Jane Dystel started her own firm in 1994, which became Dystel & Goderich in 2003, hence the changing agencies.
Presumably they would have had to get all-new publicity materials on those occasions; it's a shame they didn't take either of those opportunities to have Obama double-check his bio.)Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob, @Forbes, @Mike1, @notanon, @anon
Well, it was in Chicago that Obama learned how to be black from a couple of Jewish guys (Mikva & Axelrod), so maybe he could claim he was “raised” there.
https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/04/us/politics/04obama.html
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1052056736444502016Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Almost Missouri, @Frankie P, @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @ChrisZ
Dear Michael,
He’s not working for them. They’re working for him. And you’re working for them.
Where does that leave you?
Porn servant.
Sheesh, why do I always have to explain obvious stuff to Ivy Leaguers?
20% of cowboys were black. They took part in the ‘genocide’ of Indians.
The black cowboys left no genetic trace. That leads me to believe it’s just another tale created for black history month
That does bring up a serious point though. President Trump, bless his heart*, has a hard time keeping his hilarious snarky comments to himself. That is usually a good thing, but if he comes up with some good ones, he may just negate the boost from the Indians being angry at Elizabeth Speaks-with-forked-tongue Warren. They won't know which war path to go down come election day.
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* I mean that in a good way here.Replies: @David
Trump’s calling Warren either “999 Milliwarrens” or “99.44% Ivory Tower” shouldn’t offend Indians.
Didn’t someone once say that America needs to have a conversation on race? It looks like their dream is coming true.
Comanches: The History of a People
by T.R. Fehrenbach
That is the book you want to start with. Then Empire of the Summer Moon. Then Comanche Empire by Pekka Hamalainen.
If you can find the memoir of Rachel Plummer that is also awesome. She was captured with Cynthia Ann Parker, the mother of Quannah Parker. Rachel and Cynthia were cousins.
Captured by Scott Zesch is also quite good.
The Comanches were the baddest dudes ever. They eventually ran the Spanish out of the Continental U.S.
My impression is that Trump doesn’t do clever jokes. For example, the original joke about Warren was calling her “Fauxcohontas.” But Trump reverted that back to the original “Pocohontas.”
It seems to work for him.
https://pando.com/2015/07/23/short-fingered-vulgarian-cometh/Replies: @Steve Sailer, @notanon
As John Stossel has said, this is why American Indians are the poorest group in the U.S. The government has "assisted" them into abject victimhood.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Dissident
AGREED!
Yeah, maybe not clever, per se. He can be pretty damn funny though, when he gets going. I got this quote, regarding the Kavanaugh “advise and consent” drams, off of a VDare post about a speech in Mississippi:
I LOLed just reading it.
The thing with Trump is, he’s such an outsized character, I find that even parodies of him are funny, and do nothing to diminish my opinion of him. Quite the reverse sometimes.
Back during the campaign there were a bunch of parodies that I would watch when my spirits needed a lift: my favorites were a Japanese digital cartoon where he’s elected president of the world, a Van Halen rip-off titled “Might as well Trump,” and that brilliant piece envisioning Trump running for Pope.
I’m pretty certain these were NOT produced in a spirit of benevolence towards the Trump candidacy. Nevertheless they were cleverly realized—and what’s more, shrewdly observed, so that they expressed something truthful about Trump’s personality and the circumstances that opened the door to his presidential bid.
It struck me back then that very few political figures could survive being made fun of in these ways, but that Trump’s ability to survive *and prosper* from them was something like a super power—and a great advantage to him in a field of stuffy, self-important preeners.
Lately the opposition seems to have given up trying to make fun of Trump (at least from my limited vantage point). Maybe it’s because they’re so humorless to begin with; maybe because our cultural arbiters get that it’s a losing game for them. One recent parody I did appreciate was the Trump angry baby balloon in London: the thought behind it was not at all out of step with the “America First” policy he promotes—but of course the dumb Euros who created it were blind to that. I thought the President should have bought the balloon and flown it over Mar a Lago as a victory pennant.
Of course, nobody does Trump like Trump himself. He remains the greatest portrayer of the character I’ve come love, giving us great new material (“She owes the whole country an apology”) along with his greatest hits (“Lock her up”).
Believe me!Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @the one they call Desanex, @Achmed E. Newman
That’s exactly what I was wondering when I read that.
Picohantas
Another brilliant joke that Trump will never ever use.
From his success, I conclude that, every once in a while, society needs to be purged of its large accretions of subtlety. Trump's our reset button.Replies: @candid_observer
I don’t see why.
LOL!
Nice one, Mr. Anon.
Mexicans would have Indian heritage from North America. Anyhow, they are all related, from Alaska down to Peru–at least, as much as the Hungarians are related to the Fins.
What difference, at this point, does it make?
American Indians tend to live in Red States. They tend to share a lot of the woes of Red State whites, only worse. They tend to have conservative cultural values, like impressive military bravery.
My impression is that American Indians have been trending more Republican in recent elections, but the sample sizes in polls are too small to be sure.
His only son (1/4 Kiowa) is currently serving in the military.Replies: @Svigor
One of the drawbacks of living in the internet age is that, within 24 hours of something happening, most of the clever puns involving it have already been dropped. It’s like an irony overdose.
Actually no, only about 2.5% of white Americans (around 6 million) have Native American blood even at milliwarren levels. The rest have zero. There are several reasons for that – #1 because there weren’t that many Indians to begin with and shortly after whites arrived they were decimated by disease. #2 because back in the day white people took miscegenation seriously and kept their daughters away from other races. #3 due to the operation of the color line, your 1/2 Indian child would be Indian and marry other Indians and not white.
OTOH, unmixed Indians are extremely rare for the opposite reasons.
Indeed. “Expelling” is actually a very important concept.
One of the problems we have now is the idea that with a fixed geographic territory a nation *must* put up with people who refuse to conform to the norms (traditions, culture, etc.) of the nation, because they happen to be parked in the nation’s territory.
In the before time it was simpler. If you didn’t want to be part of a nation–obey it’s customs, traditons, laws–you were out. For a serious violation/threat, obviously you’re punished/killed. But generally if you want to do your own thing–great, leave. There wasn’t this idea that ever miscreant, criminal, bozo, asswipe was the nation’s problem to solve.
All our criminals who shown they don’t respect their fellow Americans–show ’em the door.
But, in our case, we have about half the people who basically have latched onto the American nation, like some sort of fungus–including most of our “elites”–who have little to no respect for Americans, our history, traditions and culture and often outright contempt. Cut them loose and our problems solve themselves.
Expelling. It’s a good thing.
Brings to mind one of Rowan Atkinson's gems
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppVpdsClN80
Because Thomas Jefferson.
Contrary to what many think, it is blacks that are typically going around claiming “partial Native American” blood. The obvious reason is, blacks are very sensitive about being part (even majority) white by ancestry, so to explain the “light skin” they use Indian heritage. It isn’t that blacks actually mind having white characteristics physically, it’s that it’s difficult to maintain a hatred for whites (or claim whites are inferior, per the pro blacks) while looking in the mirror and seeing an abundance of whiteness in one’s face. The only exception, even though French are white, is that blacks like to claim French ancestry, to sound exotic and unique, like they descend from some 1800s “Free People of Color” . Many do, but most outside Louisiania, Miss and Texas, do not.
Only light skin African Americans believe being Indigenous results in a person having light skin.You do not hear any light skin Latinos say the reason for their light complexion is because of their Indigenous ancestry.
However, the strict separation between the races, and the fact that the vast majority of whites didn't cotton to blacks, made those claims weak at best. When a black couldn't plausibly argue white ancestry, he claimed Indian heritage, since Indians were considered better than blacks. Any "strange" features was chalked up to Indian blood, thus removing the stigma of blackness.
Anyone telling you blacks were trying to hide white ancestry by making it Indian is engaging in some post-1960s revisionism. It's simply poppycock.Replies: @Iberiano, @OP
This highlights an interesting trend lately. Native Americans are way down at the bottom of the progressive stack nowadays, below everyone except maybe full on caucasians. What a change from the 60s/70s!! Has there ever been such a precipitous fall?
Natives simply don’t excite today’s woke, for at least the following reasons:
1) They are taciturn at stoic, rather than boisterous
2) They live in out-of-the-way rural areas
3) They steadfastly refuse to convert to Islam
If only the Native Americans had built themselves a big beautiful wall.Replies: @Dissident
Nope, American blacks as a group have more redskin in them. American whites are slightly more black than redskin.
This link even quotes Steve Sailer.
https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2018/10/16/claims-that-us-is-a-genetic-melting-pot-appear-overblown-if-youre-white/
This was the source of most of the ones I’ve heard about. Though I don’t believe the young children were usually raped. My understanding–a couple narratives I’ve read–is they were mostly taken, adopted and given as brides in the normal fashion of the tribe.
But this is all per spec. How it’s been down through the ages.
I find it impossible to get excited about Indian savagery or white savagery. This was a war of territorial conquest by an invading tribe–my people. We invaded, they fought a sometimes brutal rearguard action. We won.
Sugarcoating any side of this is a mistake. Tell it like it is–invasion and conquest. (Not this stupid and ahistorical “nation of immigrants” crap.) American belongs to me, by conquest, *and* to the Indians still around.
The important take home here is … wake the hell up and do not let this happen to us!
Sleeper wake thyself.
Being an enrolled member of a Cherokee Nation entitles the member to various benefits, but apparently having a distant ancestor who was owned by a member of the Nation does not. Understandably, the Nation wants to limit their benefits to members of their own race.
Sadly, race-based benefits are the norm in our multicultural America today. Nasheed’s fellow blacks are by far the biggest beneficiaries of such benefits, in affirmative action in hiring, admittance to universities, etc.
Q: How could Nasheed be opposed to race-based benefits?
A: Because he is not very smart.
The first place I ever saw faux used pejoratively to mean fake was in the pages of Spy magazine. Maybe Trump avoids faux because he associates it with his old tormenters at Spy. They were quite merciless in their ridicule of Donald and Ivana. Here’s a short history of the Spy-Trump feud:
https://pando.com/2015/07/23/short-fingered-vulgarian-cometh/
Don’t know who this Tariq Nasheed character is, but does he really want to get into a pissing match with whites on the “interacial killings of sex partner” category? At least a pitching match where a low number is good, like golf?
This is a tactic we need to develop. Identify conflicts involving two of the left’s preferred minorities and force the media into chaos as they flail to develop the narrative. At this point if who/whom breaks down they are lost. The literally can’t craft a narrative if whitey isn’t present to hate. We can destroy their machine from within by using their own identity politics against them.
DNA tests generally don’t support the common African American claim to American Indian ancestry.
For example, the recent Tiger Woods biography I reviewed pointed out that his father’s claim to be a little American Indian and Chinese might well just be idle boasting. It could be true, but the authors found it most helpful just to treat the boastful Earl Woods as a combination of black and white, and not pursue his more exotic claims.
Lots of white people emphasize their American Indian heritage, so it’s hardly surprising that blacks from the general area of Oklahoma do too.
I knew a black Oklahoman who said his father was very dark-skinned, but had baby blue eyes. That fellow's DNA profile would be quite interesting to see.
https://pando.com/2015/07/23/short-fingered-vulgarian-cometh/Replies: @Steve Sailer, @notanon
Short-fingered
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6277625/South-African-court-hears-brilliant-student-gang-raped-left-die.html
Tiny Duck's Heroes. We need more of these people.Replies: @Anon
For your second example, if you read down far enough, the lovely white girl victim’s friend that she picked up was black. I wonder if that played into the rage of the four black guys who raped and beat her to death.
Obviously, Trump is a genius of sorts, and one way he proves it is by abstaining from cleverness.
All have the virtue of effectiveness.
His biggest mistake, IMO, is figuring that, since he's new to all the Washington stuff, he needed some experienced insiders to get things going. Most of them are not on his (hence, our) side and not trustworthy. He could have gotten his own guys in, let them learn the ropes, but not get deep enough to become insiders.
OK, that turned out to be way off the subject, but:
As people here have written, just Trump's words alone, from the bully pulpit, have really lifted the spirits of lots of Americans. It helps when he's funny as all get out, as he ridicules the ctrl-left. People love that.
It doesn't take a genius to change the direction of the country, just a good leader. Trump has failed on a lot, but he beats the living hell out of the alternatives - ALL OF THEM*.
* excepting Ron Paul
The explanation that I’ve heard for all the black claims of injun ancestors is that was preferable to acknowledging white ancestors.That would mean that the blood of their oppressors ran through them, that the blood of the rapists of their great great grandmothers ran through them. Better to claim some ancestry from a fellow oppressed group, and more exotic to boot.
On average American blacks are a quarter white, and most of the mixing happened early on, with most of the rest in the last half century or so. Between those periods there was little mixing.
The funniest is part are blacks like Valarie Jarrett who are obviously about 75 percent white/other (mostly white) who are just as white, or whiter than someone with a white parent, but who are very sensitive to point out "both my parents are black" (clearly, both most have also been "light skinned").
I always claimed that the whole Rachel Doezel thing was interesting because everyone was acting like, at least pretending like, it was hard to believe she fooled so many people. Folks, she looks like about 25 percent of the African American black women walking around the United States. There are millions of black women who look about as black as Rachel--which is why no one questioned it..it proved that with a little friz and some darkening, she could pass as black easily. I also argue, this is why blacks see the bust of Nefertitti or whomever it was (Forgot her name), and see a "black woman"...right, because she looks about as black as Mariah Carey. Yes, if Mariah Carey is your standard of "black woman" then sure...she's black.Replies: @whorefinder, @Iberiano
There was a long-term flight from black.
Steve, i don’t get you headline then: “Tariq Nasheed is right”
Are you saying “right” as in “he’s pointing out some policing the Cherokee did that he doesn’t like (because it negatively affected some of his fellow blacks)”? Or something more?
I’d assume this “Cherokee” blacks have received multiple injections of Cherokee DNA over the generations. But my guess is that they would be considerably less Cherokee than the non-black officially “Cherokee” Cherokee–basically blacks. Kicking them out would seem like the right thing to do on both tribal cohesion and genetic grounds. Guessing here.
Haters gonna hate. Better they hate each other than all agreeing on a scapegoat and thereby gaining inordinate power.
I was just arguing about it with strangers on the internet, as you do, and I noticed that the 2007 bio has a second untruth in it:I don't know if anybody else picked up on that before, but I know our gracious host wrote a book on the subject, and therefore might be interested, if he isn't already aware.
As we all know, naming Kenya as his birthplace was a mistake made by an intern at his then-literary agency in 1991 which sadly went uncorrected for 16 years, despite Obama's subsequently becoming something of a big deal, not to mention technically changing literary agencies in 1994 and 2003.
I wonder if this second mistake was made by an intern also? Not the same intern from 1991, of course, since she became a partner at the new agency in 1995 - she's actually the Goderich in Dystel & Goderich.
(I'm guessing he was represented by Jane Dystel, since he was signed with Acton & Dystel in 1991, Dystel & Goderich in 2007, and Dystel, Goderich & Bourret today. Jane Dystel started her own firm in 1994, which became Dystel & Goderich in 2003, hence the changing agencies.
Presumably they would have had to get all-new publicity materials on those occasions; it's a shame they didn't take either of those opportunities to have Obama double-check his bio.)Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob, @Forbes, @Mike1, @notanon, @anon
That link doesn’t show his BOOK saying that he was born in Kenya. It is a list of clients of a literary agent with short bios on it. The error could easily come from the agent, not from the book. If you want to prove it was in the book, go buy a used copy from 2007 or before and scan it and prove it.
Natives simply don't excite today's woke, for at least the following reasons:
1) They are taciturn at stoic, rather than boisterous
2) They live in out-of-the-way rural areas
3) They steadfastly refuse to convert to IslamReplies: @Perelandra, @dfordoom
Native Americans are also wonderfully NOT politically correct. I have worked for various Northwestern tribes and the members always use “Indian” to describe themselves and are very easy going people who like to joke around a lot. In the Harvard study that just came out, American Indians ranked the highest of all Americans at opposing political correctness at 88%! Perhaps this attitude has made them less politically useful to leftwing activists so they dropped them.
by T.R. FehrenbachThat is the book you want to start with. Then Empire of the Summer Moon. Then Comanche Empire by Pekka Hamalainen.If you can find the memoir of Rachel Plummer that is also awesome. She was captured with Cynthia Ann Parker, the mother of Quannah Parker. Rachel and Cynthia were cousins.Captured by Scott Zesch is also quite good.The Comanches were the baddest dudes ever. They eventually ran the Spanish out of the Continental U.S.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Simply Simon
I used to read the 1971 Encyclopedia Britannica and its article on “Texas” by T.R.F. (T.R. Fehrenbach) is hilarious. Now that I think of it, I bet the Texas Monthly magazine, founded in 1973 and first edited by Bill Broyles, was basically an extension of Fehrenbach’s witty appreciation of Texas.
Are you saying "right" as in "he's pointing out some policing the Cherokee did that he doesn't like (because it negatively affected some of his fellow blacks)"? Or something more?
I'd assume this "Cherokee" blacks have received multiple injections of Cherokee DNA over the generations. But my guess is that they would be considerably less Cherokee than the non-black officially "Cherokee" Cherokee--basically blacks. Kicking them out would seem like the right thing to do on both tribal cohesion and genetic grounds. Guessing here.Replies: @Desiderius
Steve is stirring the pot.
Haters gonna hate. Better they hate each other than all agreeing on a scapegoat and thereby gaining inordinate power.
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1052056736444502016Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Almost Missouri, @Frankie P, @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @ChrisZ
Anenatti can’t get anything right:
They call you a “creepy porn lawyer”, you fool!
Is the foo shits, wear it!
Frankie P
The only sure way to avoid being a clever idiot. Maybe a little severe, but then again so is Pence’s policy with women not his wife. Likewise Trump with alcohol.
All have the virtue of effectiveness.
I’ve heard the 25 percent amount being verified through studies. As to the reason blacks claim NA heritage, yes…I think it is difficult for someone who is going around hating whites, and often making claims of superiority or “inherent” racism, or “legacy of racism, etc” when you have a white grandfather or grandmother. Obama being the exception (but then, that became part of his narrative).
The funniest is part are blacks like Valarie Jarrett who are obviously about 75 percent white/other (mostly white) who are just as white, or whiter than someone with a white parent, but who are very sensitive to point out “both my parents are black” (clearly, both most have also been “light skinned”).
I always claimed that the whole Rachel Doezel thing was interesting because everyone was acting like, at least pretending like, it was hard to believe she fooled so many people. Folks, she looks like about 25 percent of the African American black women walking around the United States. There are millions of black women who look about as black as Rachel–which is why no one questioned it..it proved that with a little friz and some darkening, she could pass as black easily. I also argue, this is why blacks see the bust of Nefertitti or whomever it was (Forgot her name), and see a “black woman”…right, because she looks about as black as Mariah Carey. Yes, if Mariah Carey is your standard of “black woman” then sure…she’s black.
You're thinking with a post-1960s, flight-from-white mindset instead of the pre-1960s flight-to-white mindset.
He also wrote a book on Swiss banking, if my memory serves me correct. The book I recommended of his was supposedly a big influence on Cormac McCarthy’s Blood Meridian. Another great read.
I cannot recommend TRF’s book on the Comanches enough. I’ve read tens of thousands of books in my lifetime and it is in my top 5.
The Comanches effect on present day America is immense, especially Texas, New Mexico, Eastern Colorado and Oklahoma, definitely if you consider how much fossil fuels are in the above mentioned areas.
Like Richard Harris in A Man Called Horse.
Ritual of the Sun,hon?Replies: @pyrrhus
If Liz went through the Sun Ritual, I’d vote for her….
The second victim and the four perps appear to be possibly Cape Coloureds, not black.
But this is all per spec. How it's been down through the ages.
I find it impossible to get excited about Indian savagery or white savagery. This was a war of territorial conquest by an invading tribe--my people. We invaded, they fought a sometimes brutal rearguard action. We won.
Sugarcoating any side of this is a mistake. Tell it like it is--invasion and conquest. (Not this stupid and ahistorical "nation of immigrants" crap.) American belongs to me, by conquest, *and* to the Indians still around.
The important take home here is … wake the hell up and do not let this happen to us!Replies: @Desiderius, @anonymous
People are already woke. It’s just that many of your fellow whites see you as their main competition and identity politics as a way to get a leg up on you.
Sleeper wake thyself.
One of the problems we have now is the idea that with a fixed geographic territory a nation *must* put up with people who refuse to conform to the norms (traditions, culture, etc.) of the nation, because they happen to be parked in the nation's territory.
In the before time it was simpler. If you didn't want to be part of a nation--obey it's customs, traditons, laws--you were out. For a serious violation/threat, obviously you're punished/killed. But generally if you want to do your own thing--great, leave. There wasn't this idea that ever miscreant, criminal, bozo, asswipe was the nation's problem to solve.
All our criminals who shown they don't respect their fellow Americans--show 'em the door.
But, in our case, we have about half the people who basically have latched onto the American nation, like some sort of fungus--including most of our "elites"--who have little to no respect for Americans, our history, traditions and culture and often outright contempt. Cut them loose and our problems solve themselves.
Expelling. It's a good thing.Replies: @kaganovitch
Expelling. It’s a good thing.
Brings to mind one of Rowan Atkinson’s gems
I was one election too soon with my prediction of the Elizabeth Warren/Rachel Dolezal presidential ticket.
I have also been convinced by some of the Sailer commenters that Elizabeth Warren will be savaged to the point of dropping out of the presidential race by the non-White presidential candidates in the 2020 Democrat Party primary presidential election.
Rachel Dolezal was born in 1977 which brings us back to Sailer’s contention that Trump is aping Steinbrenner from the Bronx Zoo era of the New York Yankees.
Everything is connected. Everything is connected except Hypocrite Hillary Clinton’s professed love for Black people and Hillary’s move to Chappaqua, New York, to avoid having to live anywhere near any Black people.
Tweet from 2015:
Stamp Collecting?
Model airplane building?
Being a roadie for Wayne Newton?
Absolutely. About a year ago the WaPo commissioned a poll of Natives to get their opinion on the name of the Redskins team. To their credit they actually published the results, which was 90% in favor.
My best friend since childhood is a half-breed. His dad was full-blooded Kiowa (the only true running buddies of the Comanches) and his mom is of English descent. He is as conservative as they come. And is definitely a race realist.
His only son (1/4 Kiowa) is currently serving in the military.
Elizabeth Warren has three genuine Indian grandchildren:
*I read somewhere that his DNA test came back as 1% or so black.Replies: @Tyrion 2, @Jefferson
Italian stand up comedian Nick DiPaolo took a DNA test and found out he has small traces of Black ancestry. He joked that the Sicilian scene is True Romance really is accurate. He also joked that would explain why it’s easier for him to get a tan than his Irish friends.
That didn’t stop Obama.
This is good from anonymous writer at VDARE(2015):
https://vdare.com/posts/rachel-dolezal-is-not-a-cherokee-princess-either
I just want to know if America is ready for its first native American president.
Isn’t it true that in the 20th century, Indian blood came to be seen as a positive, so the color line had pretty much melted away? Of course, Pocahontas claims her 1% comes from way before.
Aaron Boone is currently the manager of the New York Yankees.
So the question is:
Can you be both a Yankee and Indian at the same time, without being named Elizabeth Warren?Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Forbes
She can be neither. Her ancestry is pretty Appalachian, and the northernmost I was able to find on this side of the ocean is southern New Jersey. Her paternal great-grandparents came from Cornwall and Switzerland. She’s similar to Obama’s mama.
I’d be surprised if she carried the vestigial Yankee vote in Massachusetts, beyond the upper crust.
https://twitter.com/FredChrist10/status/1051978497525252099
Getting ready to be drowned by that BLUE WAVE TSUNAMI?
I hope you guys don’t coommiit sucide after you get DESTORYED in Novemner
Genealogist On Rachel Dolezal(2015):
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3126774/Investigation-Rachel-Dolezal-s-roots-reveals-no-black-relatives-dating-1671-ancestors-came-Europe-no-bloodlines-linking-slaves-Africa.html#ixzz3dL5AYIP2
When the Cherokees were removed to Oklahoma by President Jackson they took there slaves with them. After emancipation they stayed with the Cherokees as members of the tribe entitled to live on tribal lands and all benefits including the schools medical care and the Indian Money sent to members of the various tribes.
This went on from colonial times when the Cherokees bought slaves to recently when the Cherokees decided to cut the blacks off the tribal rolls. It was done to divert the black Cherokee’s money and benefits to the Indian Cherokees
You know funny, Achmed, so let me ask whether you’ve had this experience.
The thing with Trump is, he’s such an outsized character, I find that even parodies of him are funny, and do nothing to diminish my opinion of him. Quite the reverse sometimes.
Back during the campaign there were a bunch of parodies that I would watch when my spirits needed a lift: my favorites were a Japanese digital cartoon where he’s elected president of the world, a Van Halen rip-off titled “Might as well Trump,” and that brilliant piece envisioning Trump running for Pope.
I’m pretty certain these were NOT produced in a spirit of benevolence towards the Trump candidacy. Nevertheless they were cleverly realized—and what’s more, shrewdly observed, so that they expressed something truthful about Trump’s personality and the circumstances that opened the door to his presidential bid.
It struck me back then that very few political figures could survive being made fun of in these ways, but that Trump’s ability to survive *and prosper* from them was something like a super power—and a great advantage to him in a field of stuffy, self-important preeners.
Lately the opposition seems to have given up trying to make fun of Trump (at least from my limited vantage point). Maybe it’s because they’re so humorless to begin with; maybe because our cultural arbiters get that it’s a losing game for them. One recent parody I did appreciate was the Trump angry baby balloon in London: the thought behind it was not at all out of step with the “America First” policy he promotes—but of course the dumb Euros who created it were blind to that. I thought the President should have bought the balloon and flown it over Mar a Lago as a victory pennant.
Of course, nobody does Trump like Trump himself. He remains the greatest portrayer of the character I’ve come love, giving us great new material (“She owes the whole country an apology”) along with his greatest hits (“Lock her up”).
Believe me!
Trump can also be compared to fellow New Yorker Christopher Walken.
Both Trump and Walken are one half Scottish and one half German and you can hear the same speech pattern when they talk. They move the same way, too.
If Trumpy says he can dance better than Walken, then you know that Trumpy has gone around the bend. Trumpy would never claim that, though.Replies: @ChrisZ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCN_uISlJ-kReplies: @ChrisZ
He was very different from Trump, though, who, as you say, cannot seem to be brought down by anything. I do like all the funny memes from either side on him too, due to the "it's funny cause it's true" aspect of it. Trump sure says some downright silly stuff sometimes, or else talks around in circles (which bugs the crap out of me). He bugs the left enough to make them crazy, though, which I really appreciate.
It comes down to the fact that aware Americans know that this is near a last ditch effort to save their country. We all knew this guy was a playboy, man-about-town, whatever (very different from a Reagan, BTW). We just can't be worrying about that stuff anymore, because he's the one guy people trusted to (at least try to) do the right thing for America. How could he be blackmailed? We don't care if some Stormy something-or-other screwed him somewhere-or-other. We're all past caring about that stuff.
Yeah, this guy is like some wild-and-crazy New York uncle in the family. He's embarrassing to us sometimes, but we have a great time visiting him in NYC, and if we need something, he'll try his best to come through for the family.Replies: @Dissident
Obama is the descendant of slave holders on his mothers side.
I was just arguing about it with strangers on the internet, as you do, and I noticed that the 2007 bio has a second untruth in it:I don't know if anybody else picked up on that before, but I know our gracious host wrote a book on the subject, and therefore might be interested, if he isn't already aware.
As we all know, naming Kenya as his birthplace was a mistake made by an intern at his then-literary agency in 1991 which sadly went uncorrected for 16 years, despite Obama's subsequently becoming something of a big deal, not to mention technically changing literary agencies in 1994 and 2003.
I wonder if this second mistake was made by an intern also? Not the same intern from 1991, of course, since she became a partner at the new agency in 1995 - she's actually the Goderich in Dystel & Goderich.
(I'm guessing he was represented by Jane Dystel, since he was signed with Acton & Dystel in 1991, Dystel & Goderich in 2007, and Dystel, Goderich & Bourret today. Jane Dystel started her own firm in 1994, which became Dystel & Goderich in 2003, hence the changing agencies.
Presumably they would have had to get all-new publicity materials on those occasions; it's a shame they didn't take either of those opportunities to have Obama double-check his bio.)Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob, @Forbes, @Mike1, @notanon, @anon
BHO’s birth certificate was a PhotoShop with several historical errors, but the MSM declared it “Case closed” and that was it.
Fauxchahontas is trying to do the same thing here, but it is blowing up spectacularly. They were laughing about it on the Today show!
At the end of the day a tribe is just a legal entity with certain property (reservation land) and legal rights (limited sovereignty and the potential right to operate a casino).
The U.S. lets the tribes define their own membership rules. So it's a political scramble to divide the spoils in as few shares as possible. Genetics be damned.
For example, the Agua Caliente band of indians operates a big casino near Palm Springs. They consist of about 20 mostly white multi-millionaires.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Bliss
Wouldn’t that put them in hot water?
https://images.medicaldaily.com/sites/medicaldaily.com/files/styles/headline/public/2014/06/02/white-bread.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @vinteuil
Somebody oughtta remake this legendary commercial:
https://youtu.be/jvCTaccEkMI
...with a parody:
"I'm a cracker, he's a cracker, she's a cracker, we're a cracker, wouldn'cha like to be a cracker too?"
His only son (1/4 Kiowa) is currently serving in the military.Replies: @Svigor
Can he get me Sonny Landham’s autograph?
Ta-Nehisi Coates is writing Captain America......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UATD-8vuLIEReplies: @Alden
I always think nehi coke when I see his name.
OT: NYT, 10/15/18 – Paul G. Allen, Microsoft’s Co-Founder, Is Dead at 65
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/15/obituaries/paul-allen-dead.html
“The obvious reason is, blacks are very sensitive about being part (even majority) white by ancestry, so to explain the “light skin” they use Indian heritage.”
Only light skin African Americans believe being Indigenous results in a person having light skin.
You do not hear any light skin Latinos say the reason for their light complexion is because of their Indigenous ancestry.
They took this one Cherokee Squaw…..
Put her into Harvard Law…..
Thought her Crab Omelets were yum………….
She taught her lawfare…..to our young……
Ahem. Let's see...
A high-cheekboned white gal named Liz
Parlayed that into jobs in th'Ed Biz
When busted on genes
She said "'Cherokee' means
"Whatever the grift du jour is."
Will the African-American community dare to vote for Warren? Let’s find out!
Don’t forget the black Buffalo Soldiers. They were black Calvary men who fought the Indians.
The black cowboys left no genetic trace. That leads me to believe it’s just another tale created for black history month
OT:
The Australian Senate votes against “it’s ok to be white” motion: https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2018/10/15/australian-senate-votes-against-motion-that-it-is-okay-to-be-white/
After initially voting to support the motion, the centre-right ruling Liberal-National Coalition backflips: https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/government-tries-to-explain-away-its-support-for-its-ok-to-be-white-motion/news-story/f951c0f92d3929d6856636be6a35ad65
“It’s one of the most remarkable days ever in Australian politics that Labor, Liberal and the Greens are now united in saying they would vote against a parliamentary motion condemning attacks on Western civilisation and white people because of their skin colour.”
What’s more, Hawaii’s been kind of upset by the underhanded tactic of some politicians in California, who have put homeless on planes with a one-way ticket for the beautiful (and welfare-heavy) state of Hawaii.
Is this documented anywhere? I would be interested in reading more about it.
"Most of Hawaii's homeless are local but about 10 percent are recent arrivals, meaning people who have been in the state for less than a year. Cities across the United States offer homeless people bus or plane tickets to leave."http://www.kitv.com/story/37629526/civil-beat-sending-the-homeless-back-to-their-homesIt's very likely something the cities/states aren't going to advertise or talk about this program of a free permanent Hawaiian vacation. It would take some investigative reporting---but it would be blue-on-blue, so likely it won't happen.
No one seems to know that part of the Cherokee people fought for the Confederacy. They had a real civil war between the factions.
The North punished the Cherokees by forcing enrollment and enumeration (so they would know how many infantry, cavalry, and artillery units to send and where to send them). Further punishment was dissolution of their tribal sovereignty and coerced enrollment of ex-slaves of Cherokees.
The CNO simply threw out the descendants of the ex-slaves.
Funny thing is Nick’s mom is a wasp so he really isn’t that Italian. It was great on tough crowd without fail whether nick would joke about black people Keith Robinson would yell Italians aren’t white Nick.
You forget that the woman-card trumps all.
She already failed to predict that the DNA test would backfire on her.
As others have mentioned, Warren gets unbearably shrill when delivering one of her tirades. She should get some voice coaching, as Margaret Thatcher did, to find a lower range. Warren’s manner may be acceptable to her fellow harpies, but I don’t think many men are going to go for it.
Listen to recordings of British aristocrats from decades ago. The women may have high-pitched voices, but the tones are round and plummy, rather than nasal or glottal. (Margaret Dumont of Marx Bros. fame had an American version, and Tim Curry did a take-off on the style for Dr. Frank-n-furter.)
Projecting from the diaphragm rather than the throat or the sinus cavities is not only easier on the ears of the listener, it's also easier on the vocal chords of the speaker. Unfortunately, it's associated with upper-class twits, or with things upper-class twits supposedly like, such as opera and RADA, so down-wit-da-peeps-on-da-street liberals like Hillary and Liz Warren don't want to learn it.Replies: @Alden, @Harry Baldwin
Wow, now THERE’S a plan! Only prob is, how many real feather Injuns are left? Most of ’em croaked on firewater.
She sounds like Ruth Buzzi on the old “Laugh-In Show”. The demokrats seem to have problems with finding female POTUS candidates who project “authority” i.e. Lady Thatcher. The Dowager Empress of Chappaqua sounded like a braying donkey whenever she raised her voice.
Anyway, she was definitely projecting something. It may have been authority.
Nobody’s claiming that his book makes any such claim.
The children, both male and female, had to be between the ages of roughly 8 and 12 to be adopted. They could become full Indians as far as the tribe was concerned. Younger and they would not be able to survive the harsh life so they would just kill them if they didn’t die naturally first. Older than 12 for the boys they knew they would never adapt to be Indian so they killed them on the spot. Girls older than 12 or so were brutally gang raped and if they survived that they might be kept as a woman slave.
The above is mainly concerning Plains Indians, especially the Comanches. There were many German immigrants that settled in Texas when it was still controlled by the Comanches. For some reason, these German children, if they were the right age, made great Comanches and were some of their fiercest fighters against the Whites.
I’m telling you, do yourself a favor and do a deep dive into Comanche history. And White captive stories. It is a fascinating history.
Poquitohontas.
Vada Pinson part Native-American?
https://retrosimba.com/2018/10/11/bob-howsam-outfoxed-bing-devine-in-vada-pinson-deal/
Dang, you got there first!
2018 was not exactly, hmm, favorable to the public image of Becky. Is there any reason to believe it WON’T be the same or worse after 2 years of further nervous breakdown? I think Blasey was a lagging indicator of the kind of media treatment white cis-chicks should expect from now on. It’s not realistic they’d sit out politics en masse– but the “Beware m/f polarization” meme of only a month ago is already stale. The traditional 1990s-vintage feminist bloc has well checkmated itself.
I think another part is, each election cycle there are naturally new, younger voters who come in with a different perspective of their own personal experiences. The man-shaming of yesteryear, simply doesn't jive with the world most young men (and women) see around them today. Any more than racial issues do. They've grown up in a world where the prevailing narrative of women always victims simply isn't the experience of most young men.
Yeah, and a couple were even chicks.
Why do high cheekbones translate to tribal? The part-Cherokees I’ve known had faces that tended towards broad and flattish.
http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2113Replies: @Alden
More like:
https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/problems-much-fiber-7414.html
https://www.sparkpeople.com/blog_photos/main/BigImages/too%20much%20fiber.jpgReplies: @Anon
Svigor is a clever guy.Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
Put her into Harvard Law.....
Thought her Crab Omelets were yum.............
She taught her lawfare.....to our young......Replies: @Rosamond Vincy, @Olorin
But the public said, “Oh, pshaw!”
A Fordham Law Review article dryly cataloging “women of color,” with at least 284 footnotes. Sounds like a great read!
I hope you guys don't coommiit sucide after you get DESTORYED in NovemnerReplies: @Charles Pewitt
The Pewitt campaign for president in the GOP primary will make censorship a main focus of the campaign.
It is true that White Core American Patriots are being DESTORYED in the electronic and print media.
Certain elements who control the propaganda apparatus are preventing White Core Americans from telling their STORY in the way they see fit.
These corporate propaganda outlets are telling a fake STORY so they can steal the real America.
The European Christian ancestral core of the United States must be able to tell their STORY without the corporate propaganda apparatus censoring them.
It’s OK To Be White
Whites Have Their Own STORY To Tell
Pewitt for President has not paid for this message
The thing with Trump is, he’s such an outsized character, I find that even parodies of him are funny, and do nothing to diminish my opinion of him. Quite the reverse sometimes.
Back during the campaign there were a bunch of parodies that I would watch when my spirits needed a lift: my favorites were a Japanese digital cartoon where he’s elected president of the world, a Van Halen rip-off titled “Might as well Trump,” and that brilliant piece envisioning Trump running for Pope.
I’m pretty certain these were NOT produced in a spirit of benevolence towards the Trump candidacy. Nevertheless they were cleverly realized—and what’s more, shrewdly observed, so that they expressed something truthful about Trump’s personality and the circumstances that opened the door to his presidential bid.
It struck me back then that very few political figures could survive being made fun of in these ways, but that Trump’s ability to survive *and prosper* from them was something like a super power—and a great advantage to him in a field of stuffy, self-important preeners.
Lately the opposition seems to have given up trying to make fun of Trump (at least from my limited vantage point). Maybe it’s because they’re so humorless to begin with; maybe because our cultural arbiters get that it’s a losing game for them. One recent parody I did appreciate was the Trump angry baby balloon in London: the thought behind it was not at all out of step with the “America First” policy he promotes—but of course the dumb Euros who created it were blind to that. I thought the President should have bought the balloon and flown it over Mar a Lago as a victory pennant.
Of course, nobody does Trump like Trump himself. He remains the greatest portrayer of the character I’ve come love, giving us great new material (“She owes the whole country an apology”) along with his greatest hits (“Lock her up”).
Believe me!Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @the one they call Desanex, @Achmed E. Newman
What if red solo cup guy, Sailer, is right and Trump is aping George Steinbrenner from the Bronx Zoo era of the NY Yankees?
Trump can also be compared to fellow New Yorker Christopher Walken.
Both Trump and Walken are one half Scottish and one half German and you can hear the same speech pattern when they talk. They move the same way, too.
If Trumpy says he can dance better than Walken, then you know that Trumpy has gone around the bend. Trumpy would never claim that, though.
CW as Max Shrek in Batman Returns: “Me, a hero? Nah; just a Joe, got lucky. SO SUE ME if I wanna give something back!”
Kinda Trumpy!
I don’t really think he’s a genius of any sort. He’s good with people. His heart is in the right place with regard to the future of America. He understands the real problems for Americans at a basic level, and is smart enough to learn more details, but doesn’t take the time to. That’s fine, and what a good leader does is delegate this stuff. When you do that, you have to have people you have high trust in, that you picked to carry out your wishes.
His biggest mistake, IMO, is figuring that, since he’s new to all the Washington stuff, he needed some experienced insiders to get things going. Most of them are not on his (hence, our) side and not trustworthy. He could have gotten his own guys in, let them learn the ropes, but not get deep enough to become insiders.
OK, that turned out to be way off the subject, but:
As people here have written, just Trump’s words alone, from the bully pulpit, have really lifted the spirits of lots of Americans. It helps when he’s funny as all get out, as he ridicules the ctrl-left. People love that.
It doesn’t take a genius to change the direction of the country, just a good leader. Trump has failed on a lot, but he beats the living hell out of the alternatives – ALL OF THEM*.
* excepting Ron Paul
OT: The current Democratic senator from North Dakota, Heidi Heitkamp, just published the names of a batch of sexual assault survivors without their permission in a campaign ad. Some say they were never victims of sexual assault. Several are raging away about this. The agenda wagon of the left is running downhill out of control, and it’s about to crash.
https://www.sayanythingblog.com/entry/women-say-heitkamp-campaign-identified-them-as-sexual-assault-survivors-without-their-permission/
But this is all per spec. How it's been down through the ages.
I find it impossible to get excited about Indian savagery or white savagery. This was a war of territorial conquest by an invading tribe--my people. We invaded, they fought a sometimes brutal rearguard action. We won.
Sugarcoating any side of this is a mistake. Tell it like it is--invasion and conquest. (Not this stupid and ahistorical "nation of immigrants" crap.) American belongs to me, by conquest, *and* to the Indians still around.
The important take home here is … wake the hell up and do not let this happen to us!Replies: @Desiderius, @anonymous
Funny of you to say that after you’ve killed almost all of the People and croon about your civilization. Here’s another quote that’s fitting for your kind: “What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.”
You deserve everything coming your way.
Then your new masters can say something about how they can’t get excited about any of this, either. Can’t wait to hear it.
As a more pertinent reply here ;-}, he probably doesn’t want to sound like a Rush Limbaugh type by repeating the clever names and terms like Fauxahontas, Lindsey Grahamnesty, Feminazis, etc., as it gets old and he would sound more like a pundit than a president. Those extraneous tweets though … not too presidential either.
According to S. C. Gwynne’s Empire of the Summer Moon a full-blooded Comanche would be a very rare find. The Comanche race were visually distinct from other Amerinds They were short and long-torsoed. They were chased out of the northern regions by the Sioux, Black Hawks, and other taller tribes.
When the Comanche settled in Texas they took up a mounted (they learned to tame horses) nomadic life style. Their woman-folk had a difficult time bringing a baby to term with this bumpy chaos so the men went hunting for other tribe's children, Cynthia Ann Parker being the most famous.
So anyway, if your looking at some lovely Nordic woman with a sparkle of lust and have lost your patience, tell her your a Comanche. She can't prove you wrong.Replies: @DuanDiRen, @YetAnotherAnon, @Olorin
As I’ve noted in the past, this household’s lovely daughters have their several DNA ancestry results in their hope chests…along with lots of family history…and will expect the same of their husbands.
They aren’t being raised to be sluts who hold their ancestors’ legacy cheaply.
But sounds you hung with a different sort of female. And male.
Come now, sir. Surely it’s a proven, established, engraved-in-diamond, and case-closed phenomenon that individuals with citizenship in multiple nations are allowed to vote in our republic’s elections!
Who would dare call it Literally Treason?
Except me, of course.
Put her into Harvard Law.....
Thought her Crab Omelets were yum.............
She taught her lawfare.....to our young......Replies: @Rosamond Vincy, @Olorin
Like Ros, I thought that was an unfinished limerick at first.
Ahem. Let’s see…
A high-cheekboned white gal named Liz
Parlayed that into jobs in th’Ed Biz
When busted on genes
She said “‘Cherokee’ means
“Whatever the grift du jour is.”
“Clever” jokes often are only for a narrow audience. How many political pundits mocked Trump’s insult tags as childish? Yet they were a hit with 60 million Americans. David Cross’s humor is considered “clever” and “daring” by critics and yet Larry the Cable Guy fills twice as many seats with his act.
As I’ve said before, Trump’s dealt for decades with Madison Avenue ad guys too smart for their own good, who offered him sophisticated campaigns that they claimed would draw business. Trump ignored them, went with his gut, branded everything with his name, and launched direct, bombastic, seemingly-crude campaigns that netted him billions. People prefer his direct style to sly wordplay. How many people outside of the Democrat hierarchy use the word “faux” in regular conversation?
Trump is a man with his finger closest to the the pulse of the average American.
"Fauxahontas" is pretty damn funny, IMO, whoever coined that one.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Dissident
You're the one who has been deferring to the official Cherokee Nation as the authority on who does and who doesn't have Cherokee ancestry. That has always seemed misplaced to me. They aren't an ultimate arbiter of that factual question.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Forbes
Who is the “ultimate arbiter” of Cherokee Nation ancestry? Do you know?
They issue tribal certificates at birth.
There is a story (someone is sure to mention it’s apocryphal) that when Adlai Stevenson was running for president a woman called out, “Governor, you have the vote of every thinking person!” and he responded, “That’s not enough, madam, we need a majority!”
Trump understands that it’s the majority he has to reach, not people who know what “faux” and “pico” mean.
Norm MacDonald has said that it’s a mistake for the comedian to want his audience to know he’s smarter than them. He faults Bill Maher and Steven Colbert for that. The smartest guy in the room is not funny. Norm is a very smart guy but he always plays dumb and a little confused. It’s funnier and more effective. Trump’s act is also effective.
One of the funniest things Trump did was when Senator Durbin asked him to stop using the term chain migration,’ saying, “African-Americans believe they migrated to America in chains, and when you speak of chain migration it hurts them personally.”
Trump responded, “‘Oh, that’s a good line.’”
It was the perfect riposte, demonstrating that he saw right through Durbin’s ploy and giving him a little pat of the back for the attempt.
It is amusing that after doing this for decades, lefty comedians suddenly think they can convince everyone whom to vote for. "Hey you Stupid Boob, I've insulted you for decades, now vote for the guy who's just like me!" Bill Maher crying wolf about Trump when he cried wolf about W., McCain, and Romney was just rich; why does he think he has any credibility with anyone outside his limited audience?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ul2OuvPOQE
Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert deserve to be body slammed for the nastiness they've spewed against me and my countrymen.
Stewart's Daily Show was a touchstone for many 30s-40s folks, even of the right wing, because at the beginning Stewart was more even-handed in his skewering of the theatrical drama of both sides, only turning hard left halfway through to become a full-on cheerleader. So Trump's use of that style resonates with many people of those years.
The left has long thought they were the only ones who saw through the political tricks. Now Trump is demonstrating that many on the right have thought it was crap too. And the wiser left is realizing they vastly underestimated the intelligence of the right for thinking they fell for it.Replies: @Desiderius
lmao. No. The exact opposite; up until the post-1960s, many blacks were always trying to find some sort of white blood in their background via features or old stories. (Malcolm X was one of the first public blacks to make that seem negative, when he chalked up his reddish hair to a sexual assault by a slave master on one of his female ancestors; it was considered one of his many shocking statements in his fake autobiography). But most blacks, whether in the US or in the Caribbean, had fond legends about secret love affairs with some white man/woman. It was commonly noted how black nannies preferred their white wards to their black children, and how they always wanted “lighter” children.
However, the strict separation between the races, and the fact that the vast majority of whites didn’t cotton to blacks, made those claims weak at best. When a black couldn’t plausibly argue white ancestry, he claimed Indian heritage, since Indians were considered better than blacks. Any “strange” features was chalked up to Indian blood, thus removing the stigma of blackness.
Anyone telling you blacks were trying to hide white ancestry by making it Indian is engaging in some post-1960s revisionism. It’s simply poppycock.
Your point about blacks lighting lightness or being preferential toward the more white child, doesn't disprove the point--blacks like to be "light skinned" but almost no blacks want to admit it comes from mixed, white, ancestry. They almost always attribute it to being "part Cherokee".Replies: @whorefinder
Absolutely untrue. That’s a post-1960s explanation, during this long-term flight from white. In reality, many blacks would claim partial white ancestry, either to family or amongst whites, because white was seen as better than black. However, sometimes it was seen as implausible, so when they couldn’t argue a genetic feature was white, they claimed Indian, who were, again, higher than blacks.
There was a long-term flight from black.
Modern lefty comedians have a style where they are disdainful of most of America, and their audience is supposed to join them in that disdain. Basically, they believe they are the the Few Smart Ones and the rest are the Unwashed Stupid Masses. It’s a very insular, specialized form of comedy that relies on disqualifying 90% of the country from being in their little clique.
It is amusing that after doing this for decades, lefty comedians suddenly think they can convince everyone whom to vote for. “Hey you Stupid Boob, I’ve insulted you for decades, now vote for the guy who’s just like me!” Bill Maher crying wolf about Trump when he cried wolf about W., McCain, and Romney was just rich; why does he think he has any credibility with anyone outside his limited audience?
Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert deserve to be body slammed for the nastiness they’ve spewed against me and my countrymen.
I was just arguing about it with strangers on the internet, as you do, and I noticed that the 2007 bio has a second untruth in it:I don't know if anybody else picked up on that before, but I know our gracious host wrote a book on the subject, and therefore might be interested, if he isn't already aware.
As we all know, naming Kenya as his birthplace was a mistake made by an intern at his then-literary agency in 1991 which sadly went uncorrected for 16 years, despite Obama's subsequently becoming something of a big deal, not to mention technically changing literary agencies in 1994 and 2003.
I wonder if this second mistake was made by an intern also? Not the same intern from 1991, of course, since she became a partner at the new agency in 1995 - she's actually the Goderich in Dystel & Goderich.
(I'm guessing he was represented by Jane Dystel, since he was signed with Acton & Dystel in 1991, Dystel & Goderich in 2007, and Dystel, Goderich & Bourret today. Jane Dystel started her own firm in 1994, which became Dystel & Goderich in 2003, hence the changing agencies.
Presumably they would have had to get all-new publicity materials on those occasions; it's a shame they didn't take either of those opportunities to have Obama double-check his bio.)Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob, @Forbes, @Mike1, @notanon, @anon
Well, Obama wasn’t born to a Kenyan finance minister–his father was an undergraduate student studying in the US. Later, Obama Sr. was an economist in various government ministries.
Needless, since the entire sentence is filled with questionable claims–none of it can be believed to be true.
Part of Trump’s schtick has been acting like right-wing Jon Stewart in public and in real-time when confronted with political phoney-baloney maudlin crap.
Stewart’s Daily Show was a touchstone for many 30s-40s folks, even of the right wing, because at the beginning Stewart was more even-handed in his skewering of the theatrical drama of both sides, only turning hard left halfway through to become a full-on cheerleader. So Trump’s use of that style resonates with many people of those years.
The left has long thought they were the only ones who saw through the political tricks. Now Trump is demonstrating that many on the right have thought it was crap too. And the wiser left is realizing they vastly underestimated the intelligence of the right for thinking they fell for it.
Aaron Boone is currently the manager of the New York Yankees.
So the question is:
Can you be both a Yankee and Indian at the same time, without being named Elizabeth Warren?Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Forbes
Aaron Boone played for both the Yankees and the Indians–but not at the same time, obviously. So as a retired player, he is both a former Yankee and a former Indian.
Liz Warren can’t even say that…
Because many of these people have an image of Jack Palance in their heads when thinking of Native Americans, rather than that fellow doing the roofing.
Northern Italians offhandedly refer to Southern Italians and Sicilians as “really good swimmers.”
Couldn’t agree more. Dr. Blah Blah was the last gasp of “America giving a crap” about white women. Besides her being completely fake, it simply doesn’t have the pull it used to–part of this I attribute to the co-racial acceptance of the (mens’) red pill (e.g. Tommy Sotomayor). Part of it was a reality that this was an upper class WASP being used as a proxy by the Dems against the Repubs via an Irish Catholic (also upper class). It was farcical.
I think another part is, each election cycle there are naturally new, younger voters who come in with a different perspective of their own personal experiences. The man-shaming of yesteryear, simply doesn’t jive with the world most young men (and women) see around them today. Any more than racial issues do. They’ve grown up in a world where the prevailing narrative of women always victims simply isn’t the experience of most young men.
Is this documented anywhere? I would be interested in reading more about it.Replies: @whorefinder
FWIW here’s a local news transcript from Hawaii where they discuss the problem:
“Most of Hawaii’s homeless are local but about 10 percent are recent arrivals, meaning people who have been in the state for less than a year. Cities across the United States offer homeless people bus or plane tickets to leave.”
http://www.kitv.com/story/37629526/civil-beat-sending-the-homeless-back-to-their-homes
It’s very likely something the cities/states aren’t going to advertise or talk about this program of a free permanent Hawaiian vacation. It would take some investigative reporting—but it would be blue-on-blue, so likely it won’t happen.
I was just arguing about it with strangers on the internet, as you do, and I noticed that the 2007 bio has a second untruth in it:I don't know if anybody else picked up on that before, but I know our gracious host wrote a book on the subject, and therefore might be interested, if he isn't already aware.
As we all know, naming Kenya as his birthplace was a mistake made by an intern at his then-literary agency in 1991 which sadly went uncorrected for 16 years, despite Obama's subsequently becoming something of a big deal, not to mention technically changing literary agencies in 1994 and 2003.
I wonder if this second mistake was made by an intern also? Not the same intern from 1991, of course, since she became a partner at the new agency in 1995 - she's actually the Goderich in Dystel & Goderich.
(I'm guessing he was represented by Jane Dystel, since he was signed with Acton & Dystel in 1991, Dystel & Goderich in 2007, and Dystel, Goderich & Bourret today. Jane Dystel started her own firm in 1994, which became Dystel & Goderich in 2003, hence the changing agencies.
Presumably they would have had to get all-new publicity materials on those occasions; it's a shame they didn't take either of those opportunities to have Obama double-check his bio.)Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob, @Forbes, @Mike1, @notanon, @anon
I’m not discounting Obama may have been born elsewhere but that is weak evidence. I think far stronger evidence is what didn’t happen: endless people from Hawaii saying they knew and interacted with him. Hawaii is less than 3% black and most of them are going to be adults in the military. Obama should have been someone a lot of people knew or knew of.
The only “Obama with friends from Hawaii” things I’ve ever seen are photos of him golfing with what look like wealthy donors.
Everyone in Hawaii should claim they grew up with him but people from there never mention him. Still circumstantial but very odd.
The funniest is part are blacks like Valarie Jarrett who are obviously about 75 percent white/other (mostly white) who are just as white, or whiter than someone with a white parent, but who are very sensitive to point out "both my parents are black" (clearly, both most have also been "light skinned").
I always claimed that the whole Rachel Doezel thing was interesting because everyone was acting like, at least pretending like, it was hard to believe she fooled so many people. Folks, she looks like about 25 percent of the African American black women walking around the United States. There are millions of black women who look about as black as Rachel--which is why no one questioned it..it proved that with a little friz and some darkening, she could pass as black easily. I also argue, this is why blacks see the bust of Nefertitti or whomever it was (Forgot her name), and see a "black woman"...right, because she looks about as black as Mariah Carey. Yes, if Mariah Carey is your standard of "black woman" then sure...she's black.Replies: @whorefinder, @Iberiano
Yeah, no. Blacks didn’t claim Indian heritage to deny white heritage; far from it. Blacks claimed Indian heritage if they couldn’t claim white heritage.
You’re thinking with a post-1960s, flight-from-white mindset instead of the pre-1960s flight-to-white mindset.
The thing with Trump is, he’s such an outsized character, I find that even parodies of him are funny, and do nothing to diminish my opinion of him. Quite the reverse sometimes.
Back during the campaign there were a bunch of parodies that I would watch when my spirits needed a lift: my favorites were a Japanese digital cartoon where he’s elected president of the world, a Van Halen rip-off titled “Might as well Trump,” and that brilliant piece envisioning Trump running for Pope.
I’m pretty certain these were NOT produced in a spirit of benevolence towards the Trump candidacy. Nevertheless they were cleverly realized—and what’s more, shrewdly observed, so that they expressed something truthful about Trump’s personality and the circumstances that opened the door to his presidential bid.
It struck me back then that very few political figures could survive being made fun of in these ways, but that Trump’s ability to survive *and prosper* from them was something like a super power—and a great advantage to him in a field of stuffy, self-important preeners.
Lately the opposition seems to have given up trying to make fun of Trump (at least from my limited vantage point). Maybe it’s because they’re so humorless to begin with; maybe because our cultural arbiters get that it’s a losing game for them. One recent parody I did appreciate was the Trump angry baby balloon in London: the thought behind it was not at all out of step with the “America First” policy he promotes—but of course the dumb Euros who created it were blind to that. I thought the President should have bought the balloon and flown it over Mar a Lago as a victory pennant.
Of course, nobody does Trump like Trump himself. He remains the greatest portrayer of the character I’ve come love, giving us great new material (“She owes the whole country an apology”) along with his greatest hits (“Lock her up”).
Believe me!Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @the one they call Desanex, @Achmed E. Newman
Have you seen this one? (From Spy magazine’s 1990 TV special “How to Be Famous”):
Yeah, if you watch The Searchers with that in mind (though it’s never spoken of in the film) and the idea in most people’s mind of the time that a raped woman was nearly certainly unfit/ ruined mentally and physically, John Wayne’s psychotic obsession with finding & Killing Debbie and Scar gets more meaningful. (and of course the interpretation that Debbie is actually John Wayne’s child with his brother’s wife gives it even more meaning, but that’s neither here nor there)
Most settlers in the Old West were pretty well schooled in the rapes that awaited women folk in the hands of hostile tribes, as with any invading force of men. Many women were counseled that, if the man of the house had fallen, they were to pick up his gun and execute her children and herself so as to prevent the further horrors of enslavement, torture, and rape.
Elizabeth Warren herself made references to her high cheekbones being connected to her Indian heritage. Ever see the high cheekbones on Joni Mitchell? No Indian blood but Laplander Sami on her Norwegian side.
http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2113
It’s the E Europeans long scorned as polacks and bohunks who have the beautiful high cheekbones faces.
https://images.medicaldaily.com/sites/medicaldaily.com/files/styles/headline/public/2014/06/02/white-bread.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @vinteuil
Only people of color eat that stuff anymore. Real white folks like more pain in their pain.
https://healthyeating.sfgate.com/problems-much-fiber-7414.html
Trump never does subtle, anywhere.
From his success, I conclude that, every once in a while, society needs to be purged of its large accretions of subtlety. Trump’s our reset button.
If you don't press restart every so often, everything stops working.
[Thank you Henry Wadsworth Longfellow.]Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Hiawatha and Minnehaha Avenues in Minneapolis run parallel. Which means they never meet. But Minnehaha Parkway intersects with both, so I’m not sure how to interpret that. (Saint Paul deprives their Minnehaha of Hiawatha altogether.)
Minnehaha Creek empties into Lake Hiawatha. Shouldn’t that be the other way around? Oh, wait… she goes through him, and out the other side.
Let’s not even get into Nokomis and Keewaydin.
Otherwise, they’d be sooner than Sooner.
I knew a black Oklahoman who said his father was very dark-skinned, but had baby blue eyes. That fellow’s DNA profile would be quite interesting to see.
Warren Used Her Prominent Cheekbones And Cherokee Lies To Advance Her Career
Poison Ivy League Lout Cheekbone Woman Warren Move Mouth And Strange Stuff Come Out
Elizabeth Warren And Rachel Dolezal For President 2020 — Diversity Party Now!
Tweet from 2015:
But as Rachel Plummer said, most women did not carry it through and after a day or two of having to run in the sun tied to a rope without water, would break mentally. Perhaps she was justifying herself, but I believe women.
I have also been convinced by some of the Sailer commenters that Elizabeth Warren will be savaged to the point of dropping out of the presidential race by the non-White presidential candidates in the 2020 Democrat Party primary presidential election.
Rachel Dolezal was born in 1977 which brings us back to Sailer's contention that Trump is aping Steinbrenner from the Bronx Zoo era of the New York Yankees.
Everything is connected. Everything is connected except Hypocrite Hillary Clinton's professed love for Black people and Hillary's move to Chappaqua, New York, to avoid having to live anywhere near any Black people.
Tweet from 2015:
https://twitter.com/CharlesPewitt/status/611253249027371008Replies: @Truth
My friend, I think a nice hobby that does not involve the lives of people you don’t know may be in order here.
Stamp Collecting?
Model airplane building?
Being a roadie for Wayne Newton?
A full moon was called a Comanche Moon because that is when they did much of their raiding and it was a tense time on the old homestead.
I was just arguing about it with strangers on the internet, as you do, and I noticed that the 2007 bio has a second untruth in it:I don't know if anybody else picked up on that before, but I know our gracious host wrote a book on the subject, and therefore might be interested, if he isn't already aware.
As we all know, naming Kenya as his birthplace was a mistake made by an intern at his then-literary agency in 1991 which sadly went uncorrected for 16 years, despite Obama's subsequently becoming something of a big deal, not to mention technically changing literary agencies in 1994 and 2003.
I wonder if this second mistake was made by an intern also? Not the same intern from 1991, of course, since she became a partner at the new agency in 1995 - she's actually the Goderich in Dystel & Goderich.
(I'm guessing he was represented by Jane Dystel, since he was signed with Acton & Dystel in 1991, Dystel & Goderich in 2007, and Dystel, Goderich & Bourret today. Jane Dystel started her own firm in 1994, which became Dystel & Goderich in 2003, hence the changing agencies.
Presumably they would have had to get all-new publicity materials on those occasions; it's a shame they didn't take either of those opportunities to have Obama double-check his bio.)Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob, @Forbes, @Mike1, @notanon, @anon
something not often mentioned is regardless of where he was actually born and who his actual father was it always looked to me like his ancestry was made deliberately murky for a reason
(i.e. he was originally bred by the CIA to be used as an agent of influence in a variety of possible locations from east Africa to Indonesia)
Why would you ever use something so lame that only ten people in the country would get a genuine chuckle at it?
Problem isn’t pitch, it’s the narrow, pinched sound.
Listen to recordings of British aristocrats from decades ago. The women may have high-pitched voices, but the tones are round and plummy, rather than nasal or glottal. (Margaret Dumont of Marx Bros. fame had an American version, and Tim Curry did a take-off on the style for Dr. Frank-n-furter.)
Projecting from the diaphragm rather than the throat or the sinus cavities is not only easier on the ears of the listener, it’s also easier on the vocal chords of the speaker. Unfortunately, it’s associated with upper-class twits, or with things upper-class twits supposedly like, such as opera and RADA, so down-wit-da-peeps-on-da-street liberals like Hillary and Liz Warren don’t want to learn it.
The people who keep the tribal rolls. It’s a 1907 census with the descendants of the Cherokee’s listed on that roll.
They issue tribal certificates at birth.
However, the strict separation between the races, and the fact that the vast majority of whites didn't cotton to blacks, made those claims weak at best. When a black couldn't plausibly argue white ancestry, he claimed Indian heritage, since Indians were considered better than blacks. Any "strange" features was chalked up to Indian blood, thus removing the stigma of blackness.
Anyone telling you blacks were trying to hide white ancestry by making it Indian is engaging in some post-1960s revisionism. It's simply poppycock.Replies: @Iberiano, @OP
Naw. Not revisionism, the experience of many whites and latinos who have been around blacks for decades, notwithstanding blacks actually admitted such. it is very difficult to avoid the cognitive dissonance required for claiming a variety of past wrongs by whites (such as whites have genetic predispositions to racism), while simultaneously looking into the mirror and seeing lots of whiteness. Ice-T is one of the more funny examples.
Your point about blacks lighting lightness or being preferential toward the more white child, doesn’t disprove the point–blacks like to be “light skinned” but almost no blacks want to admit it comes from mixed, white, ancestry. They almost always attribute it to being “part Cherokee”.
You might as well draw your historical opinion about French military history from the post-1960s "cheese eating surrender monkeys" meme. Yeah, go back and look at French military accomplishments before WW2. Might want to start with a dude named Napoleon, he did some big things with his French troops.
Before the 1960s, it was common for a black to claim or desire to "pass" through white ancestry. The claim of Indian blood was only when they couldn't claim whiteness. It was all about diluting their black blood. Whites were the upper caste, and blacks were the bottom, so the desire was to move out of the bottom and as close to the top as you could get; there was no rejection of white blood as "slave master" blood before the 1960s, no matter what you made up in your head based on what some ghetto black told you last week.
Before the 1960s, blacks had a flight from blackness.Again, your only examples are post-1960s Cultural Marxism-indoctrinated, blame whitey blacks. Please read a history book or two; the world did not begin in 1960.
https://pando.com/2015/07/23/short-fingered-vulgarian-cometh/Replies: @Steve Sailer, @notanon
“faux” is the kind of play on words edjumicated people like – Trump prefers to keep his references blue collar for electoral reasons
http://www.celebfamily.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/elizabeth-warren-grand-children-1024x576.jpgReplies: @tyrone
The virtue is strong with this one.
The funniest is part are blacks like Valarie Jarrett who are obviously about 75 percent white/other (mostly white) who are just as white, or whiter than someone with a white parent, but who are very sensitive to point out "both my parents are black" (clearly, both most have also been "light skinned").
I always claimed that the whole Rachel Doezel thing was interesting because everyone was acting like, at least pretending like, it was hard to believe she fooled so many people. Folks, she looks like about 25 percent of the African American black women walking around the United States. There are millions of black women who look about as black as Rachel--which is why no one questioned it..it proved that with a little friz and some darkening, she could pass as black easily. I also argue, this is why blacks see the bust of Nefertitti or whomever it was (Forgot her name), and see a "black woman"...right, because she looks about as black as Mariah Carey. Yes, if Mariah Carey is your standard of "black woman" then sure...she's black.Replies: @whorefinder, @Iberiano
Rachel Doezel “passed” as black because she looks like so many black women–millions (who have significant white ancestry). Blacks are very sensitive about who is black, who has one black parent, etc. As Tommy Sotomayor has pointed out (and other blacks), very light skinned blacks (for example that one black NBA’er with the nice looking black mom), go OUT OF THEIR WAY to make sure they signal to other blacks that both their parents are black…so that they are not confused with “halfers” or “halfricans” as they often call them. I forgot the NBA guys name, but that was the running joke for a while–he got tired of people presuming he was half white…and people were noting that obviously both his parents (being black) were part white. Same with Colin Powell. Both parents are black, but both are obviously “light skinned” (or least one)..meaning, part-white. It is only in cases where it is factually known one parent is white, that blacks openly admit it, and even then, they argue their blackness. The “Indian” joke has been going on for decades. Natives will tell you how many blacks routinely tell them they are “part Indian ya know” and talk about their hair and all that.
Stewart's Daily Show was a touchstone for many 30s-40s folks, even of the right wing, because at the beginning Stewart was more even-handed in his skewering of the theatrical drama of both sides, only turning hard left halfway through to become a full-on cheerleader. So Trump's use of that style resonates with many people of those years.
The left has long thought they were the only ones who saw through the political tricks. Now Trump is demonstrating that many on the right have thought it was crap too. And the wiser left is realizing they vastly underestimated the intelligence of the right for thinking they fell for it.Replies: @Desiderius
Stewart built up a decent amount of cred with the (now) 40-50 crowd before the Daily Show by skewering himself on MTV.
Listen to recordings of British aristocrats from decades ago. The women may have high-pitched voices, but the tones are round and plummy, rather than nasal or glottal. (Margaret Dumont of Marx Bros. fame had an American version, and Tim Curry did a take-off on the style for Dr. Frank-n-furter.)
Projecting from the diaphragm rather than the throat or the sinus cavities is not only easier on the ears of the listener, it's also easier on the vocal chords of the speaker. Unfortunately, it's associated with upper-class twits, or with things upper-class twits supposedly like, such as opera and RADA, so down-wit-da-peeps-on-da-street liberals like Hillary and Liz Warren don't want to learn it.Replies: @Alden, @Harry Baldwin
One of the reasons I could never stand Richard Burton was his pompous RADA accent. Lots of actors had the RADA accent but I couldn’t stand Burton’s voice
http://jonimitchell.com/library/view.cfm?id=2113Replies: @Alden
My family has very high cheekbones. A sister had her DNA done It came back 20% Scandinavian which explains the cheekbones. Since Dad’s last name is a Yorkshire name the Scandinavian must come from the Danish invaders
It’s the E Europeans long scorned as polacks and bohunks who have the beautiful high cheekbones faces.
Good advice, painful as it is to say so.
How many cases were there of such captured woman and children who, after enduring the mentioned horrors, eventually recovered and perhaps even thrived, after somehow finding their way to safety?
2 of Daniel Boone’s daughters were kidnapped by Indians. They knew the men would try to rescue them. So they kept falling off horses and delayed the Indians enough so the Boone men were able to catch up and rescue them.
by T.R. FehrenbachThat is the book you want to start with. Then Empire of the Summer Moon. Then Comanche Empire by Pekka Hamalainen.If you can find the memoir of Rachel Plummer that is also awesome. She was captured with Cynthia Ann Parker, the mother of Quannah Parker. Rachel and Cynthia were cousins.Captured by Scott Zesch is also quite good.The Comanches were the baddest dudes ever. They eventually ran the Spanish out of the Continental U.S.Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Simply Simon
Jack Hays, founder of the Texas Rangers was a full time killer of Comanches. Charles Goodnight was for a short while a Texas Ranger and did his share of hunting down Comanches who killed, raped and scalped many of the early settlers of the Texas west. These early settlers remind me of the perky wrens who build their nests where cats can easily prey upon them, trusting souls I suppose. The exploits of Hays and Goodnight make great historical reading in addition to Empire of the Summer Moon. They all relate in one form or another.
Texas Rangers started as a response to the Comanches. They fought 'em like Comanche fought. The Rangers respected the Comanches and the Comanches learned to respect the Rangers.
I wish we could drop off all SJWs into the Amarillo, Texas area circa 1845. And film it.
It’s more important than that, it’s part of a series of tweets establishing that Warren definitely used heap strong medicine to get her job. The tweet above or below it is the guy that hired her saying that she was hired as the first woman of color at the law school faculty.
lol:
To the extent samurai code also enjoined women the real housewives of feudal Japan were expected to do the same. I’m not sure whether the intra-racial context makes that more hardcore or just more collectivist-minded than the Wild West protocol
The problem is that if anyone broached the subject with her they would be called a sexist pigged and publicly shamed and tarred and feathered and forced into an auto-de-fe. We can never bring up today that different people need to communicate differently based on their looks, sex, age, race, personality, etc. No! All words are created equal (except by white men).
The only "Obama with friends from Hawaii" things I've ever seen are photos of him golfing with what look like wealthy donors.
Everyone in Hawaii should claim they grew up with him but people from there never mention him. Still circumstantial but very odd.Replies: @whorefinder
Look, the problem with the whole ‘born in kenya’ thing is obvious: his mother was American. Most Americans knee-jerk believe that if one your parents is American, you become one, and are allowed to be president. The courts hadn’t ruled on it, but given the zeitgest and permissive case law and birthright citizenship, its extremely unlikely the Supreme Court would have allowed a presidential election to be invalidated based on a new finding that “natural born” meant born in America now.
The only controversy regarding Obama's birth is that his mother was still a minor when he was born. A pregnant American woman who is over 18, delivers an American citizen anyplace in the world. Period.
They had that former governor of Michigan who first came to public notice on the Dating Game. I vaguely recall she whipped off her top at a Democrat Party convention and twirled it over her head. I may have imagined that, though.
Anyway, she was definitely projecting something. It may have been authority.
OT The website of the Council on Foreign Relation has a top story on “deep fakes,” and this has folks in Russian hacker circles feeling vindicated. Deep fakes are the historic footage “rewriting” special effect from Forrest Gump, used for real. Picture actual historic film of Elvis spliced and edited together with that of Obama, against the Jackson family spaceship background from the music video for Scream, released to the internet as real.
Better yet picture John Podesta insisting that poorly lit video of him in a grey hoodie abusing a child was deep faked by Russians who hate America.
CFR had begun an advance damage control wave that will sweep through all of mainstream media and become the official story, as beyond doubt as the power of Russian hackers or the goodness of refugees. This has not only been chattered about for years but has been bourne out in events. The damage control for the Trump victory was the dossier and never-ending investigation, the damage control for thoughtcrime was evil Nazis committing public gatherings. There was chatter that they were going to try a fake extraterrestrial landing (Podesta is supposedly a space buff and memos from the campaign described putting together a large public hologram).
Deep fakes exist and are totally possible — you saw the movie Forrest Gump decades ago — but in the same sense that “Russian hackers” technically exist. The CFR’s headline strongly suggests that a big damaging revelation is coming and the Deep State will try to combat it with conspiracy theory, which is never called conspiracy theory when the mainstream media does it.
Trump can also be compared to fellow New Yorker Christopher Walken.
Both Trump and Walken are one half Scottish and one half German and you can hear the same speech pattern when they talk. They move the same way, too.
If Trumpy says he can dance better than Walken, then you know that Trumpy has gone around the bend. Trumpy would never claim that, though.Replies: @ChrisZ
Nice insight, Charles. I love Walken, too.
CW as Max Shrek in Batman Returns: “Me, a hero? Nah; just a Joe, got lucky. SO SUE ME if I wanna give something back!”
Kinda Trumpy!
From his success, I conclude that, every once in a while, society needs to be purged of its large accretions of subtlety. Trump's our reset button.Replies: @candid_observer
Society is a little bit like a computer running Windows. The crud of executing complicated procedures builds up.
If you don’t press restart every so often, everything stops working.
OT:
Listen to recordings of British aristocrats from decades ago. The women may have high-pitched voices, but the tones are round and plummy, rather than nasal or glottal. (Margaret Dumont of Marx Bros. fame had an American version, and Tim Curry did a take-off on the style for Dr. Frank-n-furter.)
Projecting from the diaphragm rather than the throat or the sinus cavities is not only easier on the ears of the listener, it's also easier on the vocal chords of the speaker. Unfortunately, it's associated with upper-class twits, or with things upper-class twits supposedly like, such as opera and RADA, so down-wit-da-peeps-on-da-street liberals like Hillary and Liz Warren don't want to learn it.Replies: @Alden, @Harry Baldwin
Thank you, I learned something.
Only if those are un-salted crackers.
https://images.medicaldaily.com/sites/medicaldaily.com/files/styles/headline/public/2014/06/02/white-bread.jpgReplies: @Reg Cæsar, @vinteuil
That was my first reaction – but then you lose the “cracker” angle.
Svigor is a clever guy.
The Ewells are trash.Replies: @vinteuil
Several state voter databases were hacked. Expect unprecedented trouble if there’s signs of Republican victories this election as they know that “discovering” boxes of uncounted ballots may not work this time.
https://www.zdnet.com/article/us-voter-records-from-19-states-sold-on-hacking-forum/
The voter information for approximately 35 million US citizens is being peddled on a popular hacking forum, two threat intelligence firms have discovered.
“To our knowledge this represents the first reference on the criminal underground of actors selling or distributing lists of 2018 voter registration data,” said researchers from Anomali Labs and Intel471, the two companies who spotted the forum ad.
…
Montana – 1000$
Louisiana – 5000$ (3 Million Voters)
Iowa – 1100$
Utah – 1100$ [what?]
Oregon – 500$
South Carolina – 2500$
Wisconsin – 12500$ (6 Million Voters)
Kansas – 200$
Georgia – 250$
New Mexico – 4000$
Minnesota – 150$ [ouch]
Wyoming – 500$
Kentucky – 2000$
Idaho – 1000$
Tennessee – 2500$
South Dakota – 2500$
Mississippi – 1100$
West Virginia – 500$
Texas – 1300$ (14 Million Voters)
The seller revealed the voter records count for only three of the databases –Louisiana (3 million), Wisconsin (6 million), and Texas (14 million)– totaling 23 million records. He is asking for $42,200 for all 19 databases.
Svigor is a clever guy.Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
There’s a difference between Crackers and trash. The Cunninghams in To Kill a Mockingbird are Crackers: poor and uneducated, but hard-working and independent. If they can’t pay you, they barter in corn or firewood.
The Ewells are trash.
I'm not quite sure why you thought I needed instruction on that point.Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
O/T
Mike softens his “golf caddy” stance in preparation for 2020
Picohantas isn’t very accessible to the masses but it’s perfect for triggering people who think consuming NYT/NPR/WaPo/etc. makes them erudite.
Oh, and – it’s time to “embrace the insult.”
Somebody oughtta remake this legendary commercial:
…with a parody:
“I’m a cracker, he’s a cracker, she’s a cracker, we’re a cracker, wouldn’cha like to be a cracker too?”
The Ewells are trash.Replies: @vinteuil
Well, of course.
I’m not quite sure why you thought I needed instruction on that point.
Hillary Clinton has been in a minor car accident but can be seen in the video exiting the car with her lover and walking around. A lot of Republican voices are exulting but it’s not like Hillary was driving or like this goes anywhere. It is possible that soon information about the Weiner Laptop “Insurance File” will come out, and be batted away by the mainstream media as a Russian “Deep Fake.”
The Cherokees are interesting tribe. They require very little Cherokee blood to enroll in the tribe. So there are a lot of white Cherokees in Oklahoma.
On the other hand, there are Cherokees in the Ozark Mountains that spill into eastern Oklahoma that remain fairly isolated and still speak Cherokee as their first language.
They are the only tribe I know of in Oklahoma that still have a significant number of tribal members that speak the native language.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCN_uISlJ-kReplies: @ChrisZ
There’s so much fun to be had on this site. Thanks Des.
John McCain wasn’t born in the 50 states. He was born in the Panama Canal Zone, where his father was stationed in the US Navy.
Embassies and military installations are not treated as American soil for such purposes, contrary to what many believe, so if you are born on a naval base in Japan or the air force's bases in Germany to a Japanese or German gal who just happens to have gone into labour and been accommodated by the nearest medical facility at the base's hospital, you're still just a Japanese or German citizen (unless dad is American – which probably often is true in such scenarios); military babies born on these bases are American because their parents are, not because of the location. The Panama Canal Zone, though actually was an American territory. Even if it had not been, though, McCain would be an American via blood. Vacationing or otherwise traveling Americans have babies overseas all the time; the babies are still Americans and they should be. It's the retarded idea that vacationing or otherwise traveling Mexicans, Chinese, etc. who have kids in America should magically have those kids be Americans that is monumentally stupid...).
If they were the right ten people …
https://cdnph.upi.com/collection/ph/upi/11747/910731b16516cce724b1731ca354a417/Brett-Kavanaugh-sworn-in-as-Supreme-Court-justice_1_1.jpg
On his father’s side as well I’m sure.
Yes, but reservations tend to be Democrat machine politics, i.e. votes for gov’t goodies; and plenty of ballot box stuffing.
At the end of the day a tribe is just a legal entity with certain property (reservation land) and legal rights (limited sovereignty and the potential right to operate a casino).
The U.S. lets the tribes define their own membership rules. So it's a political scramble to divide the spoils in as few shares as possible. Genetics be damned.
For example, the Agua Caliente band of indians operates a big casino near Palm Springs. They consist of about 20 mostly white multi-millionaires.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Bliss
Not all Indians are millionaires.
I know some folks from a tribe in northern Nevada. They’re out in the boondocks and they don’t have a casino. They spent several years waiting for a cash settlement (over mineral rights, I believe) that netted each tribal member a whopping $12,000.
Senator Warren’s overly-anglo name isn’t easy to represent in Tsalagi, or, the Cherokee syllabary famously created by Sequoyah. Tariq Nasheed is a bit simpler. My first pass at it:
ᎡᎵᏌᎬᏔ ᎤᏩᎮᏀ = e li sa gv ta e wa he nah
ᏔᎯᎧ ᎾᏏᏓ = ta hi ka na si da
I’ve spent some time in the Qualla, and I came to love the area and the people. Is Sen. Warren an accomplished flint knapper? That’s the Youtube vid I would love to really see. My DNA testing indicated all Euro ancestry, but I’d love to go fishing with Liz and let her gut and cook the catch.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/elizabeth-warren-not-native-american-164352717.html
The honorable senator is more akin (pun pardon requested) to this kind of thing:
https://archive.org/details/HeAdventuresOfRedRyderTrailer
This went on from colonial times when the Cherokees bought slaves to recently when the Cherokees decided to cut the blacks off the tribal rolls. It was done to divert the black Cherokee’s money and benefits to the Indian CherokeesReplies: @Anonymous
lol Indian Cherokee. Anyone can be Cherokee now. You don’t even have to be indian.
The most interesting and under-noticed aspect of this story is the refusal of Native Americans to hop on the hate whitey, diversity industry train. They just will not play along. Regardless of their faults you have to respect their unwillingness to be subservient to any group, including the Dem-Media-Diversity complex. It reminds me of Steve’s review year ago of the Nick Cage movie Windtalkers, where he pointed out that in reality the military’s biggest challenge with the Navaho’s was keeping them at their desk translating code, as opposed to grabbing a rifle and killing the enemy which was their natural inclination. And the attempt in colonial times to making slaves of them, which failed as they just wouldn’t submit. They have their priniciples and they seem to stick to them. Well done.
American Indian humor has a distinctly sardonic, bitter flavor that is not at all in fashion in the Current Year.
Have you ever been near a Res?
The reality of Indians, past and present, and what you people have in your heads… Talk about projection.
And slavery depended on the tribe. Some were resistant, others pliable. The Spanish were pretty good at turning millions of them into basically serfs.
Indian slavery was extremely widespread in the early Southeast. If Indians made such bad slaves, those Carolina slavers wouldn’t have been so involved in the trade, or found willing buyers. Indians died from diseases, that’s what made them bad as a long-term labor solution. That and European elites being opposed to the trade.
The thing with Trump is, he’s such an outsized character, I find that even parodies of him are funny, and do nothing to diminish my opinion of him. Quite the reverse sometimes.
Back during the campaign there were a bunch of parodies that I would watch when my spirits needed a lift: my favorites were a Japanese digital cartoon where he’s elected president of the world, a Van Halen rip-off titled “Might as well Trump,” and that brilliant piece envisioning Trump running for Pope.
I’m pretty certain these were NOT produced in a spirit of benevolence towards the Trump candidacy. Nevertheless they were cleverly realized—and what’s more, shrewdly observed, so that they expressed something truthful about Trump’s personality and the circumstances that opened the door to his presidential bid.
It struck me back then that very few political figures could survive being made fun of in these ways, but that Trump’s ability to survive *and prosper* from them was something like a super power—and a great advantage to him in a field of stuffy, self-important preeners.
Lately the opposition seems to have given up trying to make fun of Trump (at least from my limited vantage point). Maybe it’s because they’re so humorless to begin with; maybe because our cultural arbiters get that it’s a losing game for them. One recent parody I did appreciate was the Trump angry baby balloon in London: the thought behind it was not at all out of step with the “America First” policy he promotes—but of course the dumb Euros who created it were blind to that. I thought the President should have bought the balloon and flown it over Mar a Lago as a victory pennant.
Of course, nobody does Trump like Trump himself. He remains the greatest portrayer of the character I’ve come love, giving us great new material (“She owes the whole country an apology”) along with his greatest hits (“Lock her up”).
Believe me!Replies: @Charles Pewitt, @the one they call Desanex, @Achmed E. Newman
Sorry for the late reply, Chris. See, Reagan was called the “teflon president” for a good while during his terms, as it seemed that the Lyin’ Press couldn’t get any scandals about him to stick. Perhaps it was because they really didn’t have much on him and were very sore about that. In addition, anyone but the hard-core left thought of Reagan as a genteel, well-spoken, upstanding guy with principles.
He was very different from Trump, though, who, as you say, cannot seem to be brought down by anything. I do like all the funny memes from either side on him too, due to the “it’s funny cause it’s true” aspect of it. Trump sure says some downright silly stuff sometimes, or else talks around in circles (which bugs the crap out of me). He bugs the left enough to make them crazy, though, which I really appreciate.
It comes down to the fact that aware Americans know that this is near a last ditch effort to save their country. We all knew this guy was a playboy, man-about-town, whatever (very different from a Reagan, BTW). We just can’t be worrying about that stuff anymore, because he’s the one guy people trusted to (at least try to) do the right thing for America. How could he be blackmailed? We don’t care if some Stormy something-or-other screwed him somewhere-or-other. We’re all past caring about that stuff.
Yeah, this guy is like some wild-and-crazy New York uncle in the family. He’s embarrassing to us sometimes, but we have a great time visiting him in NYC, and if we need something, he’ll try his best to come through for the family.
-Nikki Haley-Appointing and promoting any number of other individuals with publicly-stated, on-record positions in key areas that are in complete opposition to ones the President himself ran-on-Needlessly belligerent toward Iran, perhaps moreso than a President H-Rodham Clinton would have been- When was the last time he so much as mentioned mandatory e-Verify?- DACA dallying that was completely unnecessary (at least according to John Derbyshire, whose analysis and arguments on these matters I generally find compelling)- Playing cat-and-mouse with all these half-assed, partial travel bans when a comprehensive moratorium on nearly all immigration is (a) what is needed and (b) would potentially, at least to a considerable degree, shield against charges of being anti-Muslim, etc.- On various immigration visa matters (H-1B, etc.), a record that is at best disappointing (again, my assessment is based primarily on Radio Derb's analysis)- "transgender" individuals in the military: Announced a most laudable position, only to then abandon itWhat I've cited above, although there is plenty more I could add to it, I find quite sufficient to ask: If that's [the President] "try[ing] his best to come through for [those of us who voted for him]"...Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
I agree with everything but the “faux” thing, W.F. For a number of years, the ctrl-left had called Fox News “Faux News”. That was very, very funny to them, apparently. That stopped about the time that Donald Trump termed all the networks the “Lyin’ Press”, and good on him. Anyone who talked politics at all would have heard the word/prefix “faux” from the left.
“Fauxahontas” is pretty damn funny, IMO, whoever coined that one.
It would be interesting to compile all of the nicknames Warren has accumulated. I can think of the following:
***Pocahontas (Trump's specialty)
***Fauxcahontas
***Lieawatha (which I also really like)
***Chief Spreading Bull
***Picohantas (from an iSteve contributor; this one is brilliant)
Others?Replies: @Rosamond Vincy, @Svigor
However, the strict separation between the races, and the fact that the vast majority of whites didn't cotton to blacks, made those claims weak at best. When a black couldn't plausibly argue white ancestry, he claimed Indian heritage, since Indians were considered better than blacks. Any "strange" features was chalked up to Indian blood, thus removing the stigma of blackness.
Anyone telling you blacks were trying to hide white ancestry by making it Indian is engaging in some post-1960s revisionism. It's simply poppycock.Replies: @Iberiano, @OP
This is something blacks have told me, personally. “She has light skin because she’s part indian.” These were not young blacks. It isn’t revisionist. It may be confined to certain areas, since culture differs slightly from area to area.
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https://www.sparkpeople.com/blog_photos/main/BigImages/too%20much%20fiber.jpgReplies: @Anon
Very probably, if that fiber is wood pulp, which is actually not all that unlikely.
The Old And Mysterious Practice Of Eating Dirt, Revealedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq8nspRHT3chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ekumDnVX4Replies: @Svigor
Yep. There was an R Senator from one of the Dakotas who lost a race sometime in the last 20 years (Ron Johnson?) when some late Rez votes showed up for the D. Funny how all these things break only one way.
Your point about blacks lighting lightness or being preferential toward the more white child, doesn't disprove the point--blacks like to be "light skinned" but almost no blacks want to admit it comes from mixed, white, ancestry. They almost always attribute it to being "part Cherokee".Replies: @whorefinder
Yes, this is post-1960s revisionism—the flight from white. Your only example is a post-1960s revisionist (interestingly, Ice-T was a rocker, not a rapper, which many people forget; he was in a rock band, and one of their main influences/heroes was Led Zepplin). You’re literally drawing your argument about the generations of blacks who grew up and were taught wholesale to reject whitey and blame whitey. When did that begin? The 1960s.
You might as well draw your historical opinion about French military history from the post-1960s “cheese eating surrender monkeys” meme. Yeah, go back and look at French military accomplishments before WW2. Might want to start with a dude named Napoleon, he did some big things with his French troops.
Before the 1960s, it was common for a black to claim or desire to “pass” through white ancestry. The claim of Indian blood was only when they couldn’t claim whiteness. It was all about diluting their black blood. Whites were the upper caste, and blacks were the bottom, so the desire was to move out of the bottom and as close to the top as you could get; there was no rejection of white blood as “slave master” blood before the 1960s, no matter what you made up in your head based on what some ghetto black told you last week.
Before the 1960s, blacks had a flight from blackness.
Again, your only examples are post-1960s Cultural Marxism-indoctrinated, blame whitey blacks. Please read a history book or two; the world did not begin in 1960.
I was just arguing about it with strangers on the internet, as you do, and I noticed that the 2007 bio has a second untruth in it:I don't know if anybody else picked up on that before, but I know our gracious host wrote a book on the subject, and therefore might be interested, if he isn't already aware.
As we all know, naming Kenya as his birthplace was a mistake made by an intern at his then-literary agency in 1991 which sadly went uncorrected for 16 years, despite Obama's subsequently becoming something of a big deal, not to mention technically changing literary agencies in 1994 and 2003.
I wonder if this second mistake was made by an intern also? Not the same intern from 1991, of course, since she became a partner at the new agency in 1995 - she's actually the Goderich in Dystel & Goderich.
(I'm guessing he was represented by Jane Dystel, since he was signed with Acton & Dystel in 1991, Dystel & Goderich in 2007, and Dystel, Goderich & Bourret today. Jane Dystel started her own firm in 1994, which became Dystel & Goderich in 2003, hence the changing agencies.
Presumably they would have had to get all-new publicity materials on those occasions; it's a shame they didn't take either of those opportunities to have Obama double-check his bio.)Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Anonymous, @Jim Don Bob, @Forbes, @Mike1, @notanon, @anon
Since I can’t edit my comment I’ll just put this here: I did not mean to suggest that I thought he was actually born in Kenya; the agency bio thing is suggestive of him once pretending to have been born in Kenya, as well as pretending to have been raised in Chicago. That’s all.
At the time, though, the zone was American territory, much as Guam, Puerto Rico, etc. still are.
Embassies and military installations are not treated as American soil for such purposes, contrary to what many believe, so if you are born on a naval base in Japan or the air force’s bases in Germany to a Japanese or German gal who just happens to have gone into labour and been accommodated by the nearest medical facility at the base’s hospital, you’re still just a Japanese or German citizen (unless dad is American – which probably often is true in such scenarios); military babies born on these bases are American because their parents are, not because of the location. The Panama Canal Zone, though actually was an American territory. Even if it had not been, though, McCain would be an American via blood. Vacationing or otherwise traveling Americans have babies overseas all the time; the babies are still Americans and they should be. It’s the retarded idea that vacationing or otherwise traveling Mexicans, Chinese, etc. who have kids in America should magically have those kids be Americans that is monumentally stupid…).
Jack Hays. Bad. To. The. Bone. If my memory serves me correct, he went on to be the Sheriff of San Francisco (Lord, the present day image of that title is creepy, in a Village People way).
Texas Rangers started as a response to the Comanches. They fought ’em like Comanche fought. The Rangers respected the Comanches and the Comanches learned to respect the Rangers.
I wish we could drop off all SJWs into the Amarillo, Texas area circa 1845. And film it.
Now that youtube is back in service, I wanted to embed this Neil Young acoustic song, in honor of our the esteemed Fauxahontas of the nations of the lower Massachusetts. I’d fisked Mr. Young’s Cortez the Killer last week, fortuitously, right before this whole Indian-DNA brewhaha.
Neil Young was a big Indian sympathizer, but as a young musician, one can’t expect him to have had any real perspective regarding the complicated relationship between the white and red man over America’s history. I just like both his acoustic and electric stuff, no matter what the lyrics.
I hope Neil Young will remember, a white man don’t need him around, anyhow …
This one is off the “front side” of Rust Never Sleeps. This side is acoustic and begins with My My, Hey, Hey, while the other is massively-distorted-electric stuff, such as Hey, Hey, My, My.
I grew up right next to Indian housing and went to school with many Indians (all variety of tribes). There was a game, as far as I could tell only certain Indian kids played, called piss ball. They would piss on a dodge ball then commence to play, dodge ball, outside of course. After all, ‘we are not animals’… what was funny is the girls played it right along with the boys.
I never saw them play it. The game was told to me by an Indian kid named Anthony Sam (can’t believe I can still remember his name, though I bet I could still pick him out of lineup, if he’s still alive). He lived in a different Indian neighborhood from the one right next to me. So I only really hung with him at school.
They were murdered by the British. The English came around 1000 years later and and are only a minority of current English ancestry.
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1052056736444502016Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Almost Missouri, @Frankie P, @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @ChrisZ
I spend 5 minutes of my 20 year career in shitposting calling this cokehead a “creepy porn lawyer,” and now this creepy porn lawyer is calling me a “Trump crony.” WTF.
On a more serious note, way to run away from the crown jewel of your career there, creepy porn not-lawyer.
You do realize that your anecdote in no way disproves my point, right?
"Fauxahontas" is pretty damn funny, IMO, whoever coined that one.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Dissident
I believe it originally came from Mark Steyn.
I'm not quite sure why you thought I needed instruction on that point.Replies: @Rosamond Vincy
It’s an insult to Crackers to say Warren is one.
Or five of the right nine.
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1052056736444502016Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Almost Missouri, @Frankie P, @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @ChrisZ
Jeb had the clap? Now that story was covered up!
If blacks can eat dirt, whites can eat wood.
The Old And Mysterious Practice Of Eating Dirt, Revealed
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1052056736444502016Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Almost Missouri, @Frankie P, @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @ChrisZ
You paint your house, and nobody calls you a house-painter.
You mow your lawn – even every week – and nobody calls you a lawn-mower.
But you f**k just one dog,………..
That would be good thing. The real native americans are still getting screwed by greedy whites. I suspect many of these frauds started “discovering” their indian ancestries when the casino dollars started pouring into the reservations.
At the end of the day a tribe is just a legal entity with certain property (reservation land) and legal rights (limited sovereignty and the potential right to operate a casino).
The U.S. lets the tribes define their own membership rules. So it's a political scramble to divide the spoils in as few shares as possible. Genetics be damned.
For example, the Agua Caliente band of indians operates a big casino near Palm Springs. They consist of about 20 mostly white multi-millionaires.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Stan Adams, @Bliss
Sad but true. Something similar happens to the native peoples of Australia, Hawaii etc
"Fauxahontas" is pretty damn funny, IMO, whoever coined that one.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Dissident
It’s just about perfect.
It would be interesting to compile all of the nicknames Warren has accumulated. I can think of the following:
***Pocahontas (Trump’s specialty)
***Fauxcahontas
***Lieawatha (which I also really like)
***Chief Spreading Bull
***Picohantas (from an iSteve contributor; this one is brilliant)
Others?
Someone else used "Pocahantavirus."
Cherokee and other Civilized Tribes bleat on and on about the Trail of Tears. I heard it all of the time when I lived there. It was a genocide, etc. etc.. Yeah it was even worse for the slaves they were dragging down the Trail.
I think you meant to write cachet.
(Although I suppose it’s possible that people could have been motivated to try to join a tribe by some cache it was known or thought to possess…)
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1052056736444502016Replies: @Redneck farmer, @Almost Missouri, @Frankie P, @Svigor, @Reg Cæsar, @Mr. Anon, @ChrisZ
I love it when degenerates inadvertently reveal that even *they* have scruples. Porn-lawyer does so here with his insistence on “unprotected sex.”
It’s not that he could be troubled by anything so lowbrow as a moral question, you see; he’s outraged by the public health issue!
It would be interesting to compile all of the nicknames Warren has accumulated. I can think of the following:
***Pocahontas (Trump's specialty)
***Fauxcahontas
***Lieawatha (which I also really like)
***Chief Spreading Bull
***Picohantas (from an iSteve contributor; this one is brilliant)
Others?Replies: @Rosamond Vincy, @Svigor
Hypnotoad666 and I independently came up with Poquitohontas, for that .0009%.
Someone else used “Pocahantavirus.”
That is BS.
The only controversy regarding Obama’s birth is that his mother was still a minor when he was born. A pregnant American woman who is over 18, delivers an American citizen anyplace in the world. Period.
The whole story of the slave trade, and the so-called, Native Americans, is a complete hoax as is everything else you learned in school.
I have lived in NM for 20 years, and worked, professionally, with Indians here, in Oklahoma and Arizona, and I would say that as a group they are the most passive people I have met.
As John Stossel has said, this is why American Indians are the poorest group in the U.S. The government has "assisted" them into abject victimhood.Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Dissident
I’m afraid the matter may not be that simple.
John Derbyshire addressed the plight of American Indians in a segment of his Radio Derb edition of March 18th, 2016. Below are some excerpts I have copied from the transcript.
Technically, he was Welsh. That was actually supposed to be one of his selling points.
Liz Warren can't even say that...Replies: @RadicalCenter
Nice. And count Travis Hafner in that former-Yankee forrmer-Indian club.
The Old And Mysterious Practice Of Eating Dirt, Revealedhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq8nspRHT3chttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ekumDnVX4Replies: @Svigor
As long as it isn’t peckerwood.
Is woodpecker kosher?
It would be interesting to compile all of the nicknames Warren has accumulated. I can think of the following:
***Pocahontas (Trump's specialty)
***Fauxcahontas
***Lieawatha (which I also really like)
***Chief Spreading Bull
***Picohantas (from an iSteve contributor; this one is brilliant)
Others?Replies: @Rosamond Vincy, @Svigor
I’m old school; I like Chief Spreading Bull.
whorefinder:
Rosie:
How much, if any, hope was there ever, in such situations, of escape or rescue?
How many cases were there of such captured woman and children who, after enduring the mentioned horrors, eventually recovered and perhaps even thrived, after somehow finding their way to safety?
NPC? What’s the meaning?
Second point: the lie about "Russian hackers" was meant to obscure oft-observed establishment bots regurgitating the exact same pro-Hillary message on hundreds of otherwise dead social media accounts. (On a hopeful note, these "American hackers" were as ineffective as they were obvious.)
Recall the late night comedian who had to stop his audience from reflexively applauding a political enemy.
Now tying it together with memecraft: in role-playing games, the player (who controls a "player character"), must interact with more than just bad guys and animals. These are "non-player characters" or NPCs. They exist to pass along a piece of information at a particular time in The Tavern, and have no soul, no life, no thoughts.
He was very different from Trump, though, who, as you say, cannot seem to be brought down by anything. I do like all the funny memes from either side on him too, due to the "it's funny cause it's true" aspect of it. Trump sure says some downright silly stuff sometimes, or else talks around in circles (which bugs the crap out of me). He bugs the left enough to make them crazy, though, which I really appreciate.
It comes down to the fact that aware Americans know that this is near a last ditch effort to save their country. We all knew this guy was a playboy, man-about-town, whatever (very different from a Reagan, BTW). We just can't be worrying about that stuff anymore, because he's the one guy people trusted to (at least try to) do the right thing for America. How could he be blackmailed? We don't care if some Stormy something-or-other screwed him somewhere-or-other. We're all past caring about that stuff.
Yeah, this guy is like some wild-and-crazy New York uncle in the family. He's embarrassing to us sometimes, but we have a great time visiting him in NYC, and if we need something, he'll try his best to come through for the family.Replies: @Dissident
-John Bolton
-Nikki Haley
-Appointing and promoting any number of other individuals with publicly-stated, on-record positions in key areas that are in complete opposition to ones the President himself ran-on
-Needlessly belligerent toward Iran, perhaps moreso than a President H-Rodham Clinton would have been
– When was the last time he so much as mentioned mandatory e-Verify?
– DACA dallying that was completely unnecessary (at least according to John Derbyshire, whose analysis and arguments on these matters I generally find compelling)
– Playing cat-and-mouse with all these half-assed, partial travel bans when a comprehensive moratorium on nearly all immigration is (a) what is needed and (b) would potentially, at least to a considerable degree, shield against charges of being anti-Muslim, etc.
– On various immigration visa matters (H-1B, etc.), a record that is at best disappointing (again, my assessment is based primarily on Radio Derb’s analysis)
– “transgender” individuals in the military: Announced a most laudable position, only to then abandon it
What I’ve cited above, although there is plenty more I could add to it, I find quite sufficient to ask: If that’s [the President] “try[ing] his best to come through for [those of us who voted for him]”…
His problem is that pretty much all of the people he's delegated to are against the changes we need. Bolton/Haley, indeed!
On quite a few of the things you wrote, Trump cannot blame obstructionist judges, etc. That DACA stuff, the military adventurism continuing, and the transgenderism stupidity, it's all on him. Is he just too busy tweeting and running his mouth to actually get down to business, or does he have Deep State people somewhere letting him know that running his mouth is a far as this goes?
* Stands for Federal Shithole, in case there are still people left who haven't got the memo on that.Replies: @Desiderius, @Dissident
"Fauxahontas" is pretty damn funny, IMO, whoever coined that one.Replies: @Intelligent Dasein, @The Last Real Calvinist, @Dissident
Isn’t there just one little problem with the President calling anyone out on lying? I know, details, details…
-Nikki Haley-Appointing and promoting any number of other individuals with publicly-stated, on-record positions in key areas that are in complete opposition to ones the President himself ran-on-Needlessly belligerent toward Iran, perhaps moreso than a President H-Rodham Clinton would have been- When was the last time he so much as mentioned mandatory e-Verify?- DACA dallying that was completely unnecessary (at least according to John Derbyshire, whose analysis and arguments on these matters I generally find compelling)- Playing cat-and-mouse with all these half-assed, partial travel bans when a comprehensive moratorium on nearly all immigration is (a) what is needed and (b) would potentially, at least to a considerable degree, shield against charges of being anti-Muslim, etc.- On various immigration visa matters (H-1B, etc.), a record that is at best disappointing (again, my assessment is based primarily on Radio Derb's analysis)- "transgender" individuals in the military: Announced a most laudable position, only to then abandon itWhat I've cited above, although there is plenty more I could add to it, I find quite sufficient to ask: If that's [the President] "try[ing] his best to come through for [those of us who voted for him]"...Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
I have no argument with any of what you wrote here, Dissident. On that last sentence, that’s why I wrote “trying”. On a lot of these details (that matter A LOT) Trump doesn’t take care of things. He should be delegating this stuff so’s he can run his mouth, get people excited about having a voice in the Washington FS*, and have actions going on to back up his promisies.
His problem is that pretty much all of the people he’s delegated to are against the changes we need. Bolton/Haley, indeed!
On quite a few of the things you wrote, Trump cannot blame obstructionist judges, etc. That DACA stuff, the military adventurism continuing, and the transgenderism stupidity, it’s all on him. Is he just too busy tweeting and running his mouth to actually get down to business, or does he have Deep State people somewhere letting him know that running his mouth is a far as this goes?
* Stands for Federal Shithole, in case there are still people left who haven’t got the memo on that.
Lest I came across as too confrontational or as if I was singling your comment out for special scrutiny, I apologize. In reality, there probably were any number of posts that I could have made essentially the same reply to, I just saw yours at the right time.
Take care and enjoy your weekend.
His problem is that pretty much all of the people he's delegated to are against the changes we need. Bolton/Haley, indeed!
On quite a few of the things you wrote, Trump cannot blame obstructionist judges, etc. That DACA stuff, the military adventurism continuing, and the transgenderism stupidity, it's all on him. Is he just too busy tweeting and running his mouth to actually get down to business, or does he have Deep State people somewhere letting him know that running his mouth is a far as this goes?
* Stands for Federal Shithole, in case there are still people left who haven't got the memo on that.Replies: @Desiderius, @Dissident
He does what President Mueller lets him do and no more.
Natives simply don't excite today's woke, for at least the following reasons:
1) They are taciturn at stoic, rather than boisterous
2) They live in out-of-the-way rural areas
3) They steadfastly refuse to convert to IslamReplies: @Perelandra, @dfordoom
Well they did have their lands stolen and their culture destroyed by mass immigration, and that’s not a topic the woke want to call attention to.
If only the Native Americans had built themselves a big beautiful wall.
You know how when there’s a technology, art style, or social movement, generally the “early adopters” and innovators are interesting and skilled people as a matter of course, but later you have talentless followers who join in, partly to “borrow” that cache of specialness? Consider computer illiterate trendies spending top dollar on a new Apple product because of what Apple was twenty years ago.
Second point: the lie about “Russian hackers” was meant to obscure oft-observed establishment bots regurgitating the exact same pro-Hillary message on hundreds of otherwise dead social media accounts. (On a hopeful note, these “American hackers” were as ineffective as they were obvious.)
Recall the late night comedian who had to stop his audience from reflexively applauding a political enemy.
Now tying it together with memecraft: in role-playing games, the player (who controls a “player character”), must interact with more than just bad guys and animals. These are “non-player characters” or NPCs. They exist to pass along a piece of information at a particular time in The Tavern, and have no soul, no life, no thoughts.
His problem is that pretty much all of the people he's delegated to are against the changes we need. Bolton/Haley, indeed!
On quite a few of the things you wrote, Trump cannot blame obstructionist judges, etc. That DACA stuff, the military adventurism continuing, and the transgenderism stupidity, it's all on him. Is he just too busy tweeting and running his mouth to actually get down to business, or does he have Deep State people somewhere letting him know that running his mouth is a far as this goes?
* Stands for Federal Shithole, in case there are still people left who haven't got the memo on that.Replies: @Desiderius, @Dissident
Thank you, Achmed, I appreciate your reply.
Lest I came across as too confrontational or as if I was singling your comment out for special scrutiny, I apologize. In reality, there probably were any number of posts that I could have made essentially the same reply to, I just saw yours at the right time.
Take care and enjoy your weekend.
If only the Native Americans had built themselves a big beautiful wall.Replies: @Dissident
Hmm…What’s the difference, then, between immigration, invasion and settlement? I’m thinking there might be an answer here similar to the one to the old gag: What’s the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist?