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iSteve commenter Abe writes:

… I’ve noticed the hate-the-smart-sensitive-white-guy coefficient going through the roof lately. For example, screenwriter Charlie Kaufman has a new novel out called ANT KIND. As you may recall Kaufman, during his late-90’s through mid-00’s hot streak of BEING JOHN MALKOVICH, ETERNAL SUNSHINE OF THE SPOTLESS MIND, & ADAPTATION, was pretty much the STUFF WHITE PEOPLE LIKE [SWPL] “It Boy”, part of a sort of self-congratulatory hipster Holy Trinity circle jerk along with the likes of Spike Jonze and Banksy.

While Kaufman was never quite my cup of tea (as with Wes Anderson, there is too much self-willed “wow, this is clever and ambitious so I’m going to force myself to delight in it”, rather than actual- you know- spontaneous, feelings of delight) I certainly appreciate his great talent. So I was reading the reviews of ANT KIND to see if this was something I’d want to buy eventually and- gosh- very first review I read the customer-reader is sneering about what a piece of postmodernist white male navel gazing this is. Seen like hate on recent reviews of Rick Moody, David Foster Wallace, Jonathan Franzen books as well.

These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.

Anderson’s works, which if I could assign a single meaning to I’d say represent a sort of collective dreamscape for smart, sensitive, talented white boys rejoicing in this amazing Earth and all that is of interest in it- is the sort of primordial ooze out of which every once in a while an Elon Musk is made. That is why very soon Wes Anderson will have to be destroyed.

 
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  1. There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs’. The media better start telling the world about them or we are going to tear/burn America down once we coronate Kamala-lot as our queen.

    • LOL: Unladen Swallow
    • Replies: @JimB
    @anon


    There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs’. The media better start telling the world about them or we are going to tear/burn America down once we coronate Kamala-lot as our queen.
     
    Or at least tell the truth about Jeff Bezos building his internet retail empire on not paying any taxes, an idea he got from Redd Foxx.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    , @tyrone
    @anon

    "There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs’"…….name one .

    , @Anonymous
    @anon

    Most of em be in da pen tho.

    , @Neoconned
    @anon

    Read the other day Musk is now worth 100 billion $$$$ USD.....

    I actually asked around at work and i doordash so im on the road 7 days a week....

    How is he worth 100 billion dollars when i can count 2 Teslas literally in a 50 mile radius....

    I see Ford's and Toyotas and Nissan's in every 3rd or 4th driveway.....how is Tesla worth more than say Toyota....when max within 100 miles i can count the Teslas on both hands.....are the spooks floating Musk thru shell corporations?

    PUsing Fed money pumping schemes to have Musk privatize NASA or something?

    Replies: @Curle

  2. The very real Catch-22 that has been imposed on straight, white male novelists is: if they write books primarily about themselves and people like them, they are savaged in the manner Abe describes, but if they stock their books heavily with minority/gay/etc. character, they are attacked because they have “no right” to create those characters. Lionel Shriver has done a great job of publicly calling out this type of insidious censorship, and she hasn’t been cancelled, to my knowledge. But that’s probably because she’s a woman.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @JimDandy

    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen. He should write a nonfiction book about his favorite hobby.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SFG, @Alden, @Rahan

    , @Plug butters
    @JimDandy

    This is no way close to reality

    Being criticized is not censorship

    This like the original post is basically incel white males whining that they don't get attention from girls just for pretending to be nice

    She doesn't owe you anything

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @Squid
    @JimDandy

    A woman named Lionel? That's sick. Did they name her brother Sue?

    , @Desiderius
    @JimDandy

    Mother Nature abhors nothing so much as a vacuum and there is nothing quite so vacuous as men addicted to passive voice.

    You invite your own domination and destruction by advertising, nay wallowing in, your impotent weakness.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @JimDandy

    For a while white men had a refuge in fantasy, science fiction and of course historical fiction. All three genres are of course now under siege, but it is pretty hard to insert strong black characters into, say, a novel about the 30 Years War, or even New Hampshire in the 1920s, without looking pretty foolish. The best white male writers will probably be writing period pieces.

  3. Anonymous[359] • Disclaimer says:

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.

    This may be part of it, but a bigger reason is generational.

    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson were/are popular with Generation X white guys. Millenial and younger white guys find them to be cringe-y and embarrassing. The younger tastes are in reaction to Boomerism and Gen X dweebiness, hence the preference for more hard edged, hard right stuff and aesthetics on the young Right, and more militant leftism and old school Marxism on the young Left.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Anonymous

    That's definitely part of it too, no? Every artistic movement rebels against the last one.

    I have to say I never cared for Wes Anderson.

    , @Dennis Dale
    @Anonymous

    Nah. Wallace and Anderson only appear dweeby to dummies. Millennials are harder? I wish. I've found their attitude is essentially feminine--lower sense of humor, higher sense of personal offense and psychological frailty--about which they bore you to tears humble-bragging.

    Who was the kid on Saturday Night Live whose whole schtick is that he's an emotional basket case because his dad died on 9/11? The poster boy for Generation Cope right there.

    Don't you ever talk shit about boomers, young man.

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Anonymous

    No, things are much simpler.

    SWPL: reading maudlin books on improving the world & finding oneself.

    SJW: reading nothing.

    Harold Bloom was right. Reading of imaginative literature, any reading will disappear.

    , @jamie b.
    @Anonymous

    Millennials all seem rather delicate to me, both psychologically and physically.

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @Anonymous

    David Foster Wallace was a jock (star tennis player) and a lothario. Definitely not a dweeb. More like a combo of a “Joey”/“Chandler” than a “Ross”. He was definitely part of that 90s grunge self-pity culture though.

    , @Kratoklastes
    @Anonymous


    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson
     
    DFW looked more like the semi-buff dude out of 'It's Always Sunny in Philapdelphia' (Rob McElhenney) crossed with Lars Ulrich, rather than an angsty dweeby type.

    The angsty-dweeb used to be the most popular affectation: it was basically bro-code for 'Jew who wants people to think he's smart'. It was always a schtick , but at least it was benign.

    During the life of the now-defunct Asperger's 'diagnosis' people who were trying to differentiate themselves but lacking the outright cognitive grunt, would be Larry-David level ill-mannered assholes ... hoping that the schlubs would think it was a sign of genius.

    Now that Ass-burgers has been relegated to the sewer where all psycho-charlatanry belongs, maybe angsty-dweeb will make a comeback.


    In any case, I'm profoundly not interested in anything DFW wrote or said or did; same with Wes Anderson.

    From a safe viewing distance it's obvious that everything they produce[d] insists upon itself (in the PeterGriffinian sense of the phrase).

    Then again: I would say that, wouldn't I... having low Obsequiousness, low Pusillanimity and high Excitability (to pick three arbitrary adjectives as inputs for yet another taxonomy of psychocharlatan bullshit on an evidentiary par with dreamcatchers, crystals and astrology).

    Plus, I did not care for The Godfather. I'll let Peter explain.

    https://youtu.be/0pnwE_Oy5WI?t=27
  4. All of culture, entertainment, literature, film music etc must be and will be 100% black. All black all the time.

    Which means every smart young or not made it rich White man is on our side.

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, you are so correct.The governor of California, a state with a black population of 6%, is being ordered by blacks to appoint a black to replace Kamala Harris in the US Senate. California will propably have a new Senator who is black.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Gary in Gramercy

  5. These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.

    I’ve noticed that the Woke crowd at my uni have a strong dislike for the work of Stanley Kubrick…..

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @syonredux

    They definitely hate Eyes Wide Shut.

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @ADL Pyramid of Hate
    @syonredux

    How depressing.

    , @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    , @anon
    @syonredux

    Generation safespace aint gonna like the guy famous for requesting that an automoton they open the pod bay doors.

    Indoors Forever!

    , @Dennis Dale
    @syonredux

    Of course they do. His whole thing is cool detachment. Like silence, detachment is violence to the movement. Kubrick is the last guy that would give them the sentimental kitsch they crave.

    The reason Eyes Wide Shut is such an unremittingly bad movie (it is) is because he tried--late--to take on the least detached of subjects: desire, jealousy, sexual humiliation. Forget the conspiracy-theorists take on the movie; the theme speaks to the psychologically hidden, not some Illuminati silliness.

    The conspiracy theorists, in my mind, have not rescued the film by re-purposing it. Maybe the millennial zombies of the future will. My guess is it, like Kubrick, will be long forgotten in a short time.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Ben tillman

  6. @syonredux

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    I've noticed that the Woke crowd at my uni have a strong dislike for the work of Stanley Kubrick.....

    Replies: @JimDandy, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @syonredux, @anon, @Dennis Dale

    They definitely hate Eyes Wide Shut.

    • LOL: Kronos
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @JimDandy

    That's kinda understandable. EYES WIDE SHUT is terrible, easily Kubrick's worst film.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Inquiring Mind

  7. @syonredux

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    I've noticed that the Woke crowd at my uni have a strong dislike for the work of Stanley Kubrick.....

    Replies: @JimDandy, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @syonredux, @anon, @Dennis Dale

    How depressing.

  8. @JimDandy
    The very real Catch-22 that has been imposed on straight, white male novelists is: if they write books primarily about themselves and people like them, they are savaged in the manner Abe describes, but if they stock their books heavily with minority/gay/etc. character, they are attacked because they have "no right" to create those characters. Lionel Shriver has done a great job of publicly calling out this type of insidious censorship, and she hasn't been cancelled, to my knowledge. But that's probably because she's a woman.

    Replies: @njguy73, @Plug butters, @Squid, @Desiderius, @Peter Akuleyev

    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen. He should write a nonfiction book about his favorite hobby.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @njguy73

    In the future, literary men will only write about baseball statistics.

    Replies: @anon, @JimDandy, @Anonymous, @Polistra

    , @SFG
    @njguy73

    Or go directly to the audience and forget about literary prizes. The paperbacks still seem fairly male.

    Replies: @njguy73

    , @Alden
    @njguy73

    Or pretend he’s a woman, Georgia Eliot.

    , @Rahan
    @njguy73


    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen
     
    Wolfe already cought the last possible moment in which Bonfire of the Vanities could have been published by a big house. And still the then popular "navel-gazer" Jewish and crypto-Jewish writers made it their business to attack Wolfe constantly.

    Back then they couldn't come out and say it's because he's "an obvious gentile fascist" with his attempts to be the Tolstoy of his age making him an "obvious Nazi", instead of focusing on seedy middle aged men with masturbation compulsions and daddy issues. So they pretended they hated him for his style. And he pretended this was the cause of the conflict as well.

    There can be no next Tom Wolfe unless the system is reset, and not in the currently popular sense.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @SFG

  9. I recall the fawning review of ‘The Corrections’ by a young female columnist in my local paper. She was completely dismissive of Franzen when reviewing his second novel. It was like she was plugging her nose while reading it. I thought, she is obviously going with the cultural flow. I was embarrassed for her. So shallow and fickle. If nothing else, it’s fascinating to witness this phenomenon.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymouz


    She was completely dismissive of Franzen when reviewing his second novel.
     
    IMHO, Freedom was easily his best novel. The main female character was a bit of a whiney victim-loser, though. So maybe that struck a nerve with the reviewer.

    Replies: @International Jew

    , @James O'Meara
    @Anonymouz

    "Sophomore" books, movies or albums (do they still exist?) are generally trashed by critics, even by the same critics who praised the first work. Although everyone knows reflex, critics still engage in it as if it proves their "independence" as opposed to being a mere flack re-writing press releases. There's also an element of sadism, punishing the writer etc. for his initial success. And and to communicate the "we made you we can break you" attitude.

    I suppose there's other examples but the paradigm case for me is Colin Wilson, whose first book, The Outsider, was greeted with wild praise, making him famous and a tabloid headliner, supposedly one of the "Angry Young Men," so that his second book, Religion and the Rebel, was slagged by everyone, including the very same critics, who claimed he was a fraud who must have "fooled" them the first time. Basically, mere jealousy over his success; also, as Wilson was impolite enough to point out, British "intellectuals" hate ideas, so they were embarrassed to have promoted someone who "must have been a pseude." This attitude persisted, right up to his recent obituaries, at least in the UK. Pricks.

    For all its flaws, The Outsider is indeed a remarkable performance for a yoot of 24; the second is in fact better, The only valid criticism one might have, in retrospect, is that in fact his books in the "Outsider Cycle" became BETTER over time, so the sequence is more like reading Wilson publicly working out his ideas; you only need to read the last one.

    Religion and the Rebel only recently came back into print, and I reviewed it here:

    https://counter-currents.com/2018/02/neville-and-the-rebel-part-1/

    Wilson seems to have had the last laugh: famous, reasonably well off, happily married, well into his 80s, in The Angry Years he has the pleasant task of surveying all his rivals -- Amis, Osborne, etc. -- and dispassionately detailing how they all, every last one, wound up some combination of written out, forgotten, alcoholic, impotent, closeted homosexual, etc.

  10. @anon
    There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs'. The media better start telling the world about them or we are going to tear/burn America down once we coronate Kamala-lot as our queen.

    Replies: @JimB, @tyrone, @Anonymous, @Neoconned

    There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs’. The media better start telling the world about them or we are going to tear/burn America down once we coronate Kamala-lot as our queen.

    Or at least tell the truth about Jeff Bezos building his internet retail empire on not paying any taxes, an idea he got from Redd Foxx.

    • Disagree: Abolish_public_education
    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @JimB

    "Or at least tell the truth about Jeff Bezos building his internet retail empire on not paying any taxes, an idea he got from Redd Foxx."

    You'd think that the people who whine about "America was built on the stolen labor of black slaves" would complain about businesses built on the backs of taxpayers, but while blacks and Jews (reparations from companies that "profited" from the Holocaust) are sacred, being tax donkeys is what White people are FOR.

    Replies: @JimB

  11. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.

    Until it’s time for the Woke/SJW females to date or marry. 😉

    • Replies: @SFG
    @Twinkie

    Do you think they marry writers, or bankers?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    , @Whiskey
    @Twinkie

    Which is likely to be black guys. See all the advertising. White women fantasy.

    The status difference alone is huge.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Servant of Gla'aki

  12. @njguy73
    @JimDandy

    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen. He should write a nonfiction book about his favorite hobby.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SFG, @Alden, @Rahan

    In the future, literary men will only write about baseball statistics.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Steve Sailer

    You're just talking your book!

    , @JimDandy
    @Steve Sailer

    Such as how baseball keeps getting whiter, and why municipal governments need to build more domed baseball stadiums in the inner cities. Where they serve free hot lunches. And breakfasts.

    , @Anonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    not golf course architecture?

    , @Polistra
    @Steve Sailer

    Past a certain point, baseball stats are interesting only to nerdy jews and George Will. That is, people who could never really play the game.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

  13. @JimDandy
    The very real Catch-22 that has been imposed on straight, white male novelists is: if they write books primarily about themselves and people like them, they are savaged in the manner Abe describes, but if they stock their books heavily with minority/gay/etc. character, they are attacked because they have "no right" to create those characters. Lionel Shriver has done a great job of publicly calling out this type of insidious censorship, and she hasn't been cancelled, to my knowledge. But that's probably because she's a woman.

    Replies: @njguy73, @Plug butters, @Squid, @Desiderius, @Peter Akuleyev

    This is no way close to reality

    Being criticized is not censorship

    This like the original post is basically incel white males whining that they don’t get attention from girls just for pretending to be nice

    She doesn’t owe you anything

    • Troll: Jay Fink
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Plug butters

    You're the one totally out of touch with reality. You obviously didn't know what you were talking about to begin with, and then you completely lost the plot by the end of your post. Incels? Pretending to be nice? What?

    Abe asserted that in contemporary fiction, "White guys must now be 'allies', which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee."

    Today's cancel culture--particularly on Twitter--is so strong when it comes to contemporary fiction that it greatly impacts the literary gatekeepers' decisions about which books will ever make it into print. The New York publishing world (agents, editors, and especially critics) makes academia seem mild by comparison when it comes to comic-book-caricature levels of wokeness, social justice warring, and DEI concerns. By denying this, you're just admitting that you have zero knowledge on the subject. Stop embarrassing yourself. Or don't. Maybe you get off on it.

    From a recent review in The New Republic:

    It’s never a great time to publish a book in which all or nearly all the characters are white, but now would seem to be a particularly bad time to do so.... The answer, of course, is to just be sincere. But for American literature set in white worlds, that recourse may not be available. It would mean accepting that white people do not have to check their privilege so assiduously. It would mean, essentially, admitting that it’s OK to be white—a phrase that, as it happens, has been gleefully adopted by trolls on the alt-right. Life .

    But once the white writer puts non-whites in their fiction:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/lionel-shrivers-full-speech-i-hope-the-concept-of-cultural-appropriation-is-a-passing-fad

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @SFG

  14. @Steve Sailer
    @njguy73

    In the future, literary men will only write about baseball statistics.

    Replies: @anon, @JimDandy, @Anonymous, @Polistra

    You’re just talking your book!

  15. @Steve Sailer
    @njguy73

    In the future, literary men will only write about baseball statistics.

    Replies: @anon, @JimDandy, @Anonymous, @Polistra

    Such as how baseball keeps getting whiter, and why municipal governments need to build more domed baseball stadiums in the inner cities. Where they serve free hot lunches. And breakfasts.

  16. @Steve Sailer
    @njguy73

    In the future, literary men will only write about baseball statistics.

    Replies: @anon, @JimDandy, @Anonymous, @Polistra

    not golf course architecture?

    • Agree: Redneck farmer
  17. @syonredux

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    I've noticed that the Woke crowd at my uni have a strong dislike for the work of Stanley Kubrick.....

    Replies: @JimDandy, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @syonredux, @anon, @Dennis Dale

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film’s “implicit endorsement of White supremacy.” Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White….

    • Replies: @flyingtiger
    @syonredux

    That is why I liked the movie.

    , @dfordoom
    @syonredux


    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film’s “implicit endorsement of White supremacy.”
     
    Which is interesting. Kubrick was Jewish. In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism. It also tends to indicate that in the eyes of the Woke Jews are just evil white people.

    Replies: @SFG, @al gore rhythms

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @syonredux

    With regard to 2001, and as a kind of memorial her, we should take a moment to remember Judith Rich Harris' explanation for the development of white people--beauty.

    , @JackOH
    @syonredux

    syon--, thanks.

    What's profoundly sad is that White "supremacy" amounts to a deeply flawed Euro-American people that has a track record of beating the brains out of one another (Thirty Years War, 1914-1945 War, etc.), and also creating immense prosperity for masses of people, many of whom are not Euro-American, through ways of thinking and social organization unavailable to other peoples. The "sad" part is that political hustlers refuse to recognize the Euro-American "talent package" is a combo deal.

    By contrast, what has Black supremacy offered to either Whites or Blacks, or anyone else anywhere?

    Replies: @Curle, @Whiskey

    , @Peter D. Bredon
    @syonredux

    "Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White…."

    From what we can see, but wait another 8 days, and we'll see....

    , @anonymous
    @syonredux

    Black Monolith, White Star-Child...Ebony and Ivory.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    , @Ray P
    @syonredux

    But in the movie (and the book) hominid apes get affirmative-actioned out of bestiality into humanity by mysterious and benevolent aliens (liberals-in-space) who do not demand anything in return and the same happens at the end to Bowman. If the white man is the pinnacle of evolution why does he need improvement? And tool-use was invented by an African at the start which ends with orbiting satellites.

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @John Johnson
    @syonredux

    2001 is overrated and heavily egalitarian.

    As with all secular modernists and egalitarians he wants everyone to have an "apes to space" evolutionary view and just pretend that nothing of significance happened in-between. Kalahari bushmen could just as easily be launching satellites if not for external factors (I.E. racism).

    Egalitarians especially love sci-fantasy where race is no longer an issue. It just magically goes away and then we all explore space together.

    When did he write this? In the 60s? This is just another case of reality denial through film.

    That was during the time of riots and this guy is penning space fantasy.

    Just more low calorie junk food for reality haters.

    Replies: @syonredux

  18. @njguy73
    @JimDandy

    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen. He should write a nonfiction book about his favorite hobby.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SFG, @Alden, @Rahan

    Or go directly to the audience and forget about literary prizes. The paperbacks still seem fairly male.

    • Replies: @njguy73
    @SFG

    Yeah, I can see male novelists just doing everything via Patreon, Amazon self-publishing, or their own websites. Forget landing a deal with the big publishing houses. Just like how innovative filmmakers will spurn Hollywood, and how innovative musicians spurn that industry.

  19. @Plug butters
    @JimDandy

    This is no way close to reality

    Being criticized is not censorship

    This like the original post is basically incel white males whining that they don't get attention from girls just for pretending to be nice

    She doesn't owe you anything

    Replies: @JimDandy

    You’re the one totally out of touch with reality. You obviously didn’t know what you were talking about to begin with, and then you completely lost the plot by the end of your post. Incels? Pretending to be nice? What?

    Abe asserted that in contemporary fiction, “White guys must now be ‘allies’, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.”

    Today’s cancel culture–particularly on Twitter–is so strong when it comes to contemporary fiction that it greatly impacts the literary gatekeepers’ decisions about which books will ever make it into print. The New York publishing world (agents, editors, and especially critics) makes academia seem mild by comparison when it comes to comic-book-caricature levels of wokeness, social justice warring, and DEI concerns. By denying this, you’re just admitting that you have zero knowledge on the subject. Stop embarrassing yourself. Or don’t. Maybe you get off on it.

    From a recent review in The New Republic:

    It’s never a great time to publish a book in which all or nearly all the characters are white, but now would seem to be a particularly bad time to do so…. The answer, of course, is to just be sincere. But for American literature set in white worlds, that recourse may not be available. It would mean accepting that white people do not have to check their privilege so assiduously. It would mean, essentially, admitting that it’s OK to be white—a phrase that, as it happens, has been gleefully adopted by trolls on the alt-right. Life .

    But once the white writer puts non-whites in their fiction:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/lionel-shrivers-full-speech-i-hope-the-concept-of-cultural-appropriation-is-a-passing-fad

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @JimDandy

    Uh, Jim, didn't you recognize "Plug Butters" as our old friend? Perhaps the lack of typos this time was deceiving.




    https://i.imgur.com/AUiacrz.png


    The Duckie and the Anal Plug
    A global tour of contemporary public art



    https://i.etsystatic.com/10090510/d/il/014e33/1998383925/il_340x270.1998383925_56rn.jpg?version=0

    Replies: @Kronos, @clyde

    , @SFG
    @JimDandy

    I disagree with none of what you said, though when it comes to the political faddishness of the New York publishing world I suspect this has always been the case. My question is--how would one work around it? I've noticed a lot of pulp writers seem to be a lot less PC.

    (I am working my way through a bunch of romantic mysteries written by a lady who appears to be a Christian with seven kids on a farm--though for all we know she is a transgendered incel in Philadelphia--and some of the things she says... That and, well, I'm reading Milo Yiannopoulos' Forbidden Thoughts anthology and keep thinking, I could do better than this!)

    ((I've hoarded a little over a million and still have about a 35-year life expectancy, 40 if I can make myself eat veggies. I was thinking of making a go of it...))

    (((Not gonna go alt-right though for the obvious reasons.)))

    Replies: @JimDandy, @WriterAnon

  20. @Twinkie

    White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    Until it's time for the Woke/SJW females to date or marry. ;)

    Replies: @SFG, @Whiskey

    Do you think they marry writers, or bankers?

    • Replies: @Redneck farmer
    @SFG

    A ruthless banker who just happens to be a sensitive writer. So the wife can say both, "He's so caring" and the even more important, "Do you know who my husband is"?!.

  21. @JimDandy
    @syonredux

    They definitely hate Eyes Wide Shut.

    Replies: @syonredux

    That’s kinda understandable. EYES WIDE SHUT is terrible, easily Kubrick’s worst film.

    • Agree: Polistra, Seneca44, jamie b.
    • Disagree: Harry Baldwin, Curle
    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @syonredux

    I enjoyed it, and the novel it was adapted from. But who cares about our personal tastes, the people I'm talking about bristle at it on political grounds--gender politics, etc.

    , @Inquiring Mind
    @syonredux

    Eyes Wide Shut? Didn't see it, but from the description and the trailers, it was something I just plain didn't "get." I have a feeling a lot of people didn't get it.

    With the NXIVM scandal/courtroom drama, if we still don't get Eyes Wide Shut, we by now have an inkling of what it was about.

    NXIVM, I guess, is a sex cult combined with some kind of EST-like (remember when EST was a thing?) self-improvement/leadership training/life coach sort of arrangement.

    But it appears that Caligula-esque social behavior is a "thing" with at least some of the top-out-of-sight ultra rich? I really cannot picture Warren Buffet, the man from Omaha who has his wife count out the change for him to eat breakfast and hold court with fellow old-persons at McDonald's, but still.

    A couple other fiction works that people didn't quite catch on to are Orwell's 1984 and Terry Gilliam's "Brazil."

    Animal Farm, heh, is as obvious as a C. S. Lewis allegory. It really hits you over the head with a clue bat that the lead pigs are Stalin and Trotsky. 1984, OK, we get it, a totalitarian socialist state and the entire world parceled out among 3 such states, but totalitarian socialism in England? Some say 1984 is a disguised 1948, and with strict rationing extending post WW-II, it appeared it was headed that way to some.

    Brazil, on the other hand, has nothing to do with England, it is about Brazil, or some goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American locale, right? It is about England, not some fictitious England but a satire on modern-day England, Brazil is the name of the Big Band-era song that was the recurrent theme music in the movie, also evocative that England has turned into a goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American-like country.

    I figured this out when there was a wave of car jackers preying on Florida tourists driving rental cars, it seems that multiple instances of British tourists came to violent harm or ended up dead, and the Brits put out an advisory "don't travel to Florida, USA."

    Then Governor Lawton Chiles then responded, "Oh yeah, what about those IRA terrorists blowing stuff up in England?" The IRA bombings weren't strictly confined to Ulster, the IRA had a "strategic bombing campaign" against the English homeland, too, but the British did what they could to cover this up. The movie "In the Name of the Father" also came out, about a Northern Irish guy on the fringes of society who gets set up by the IRA as a patsy and his dad, actor Tom Postlethwaite gets framed for a notorious, deadly bombing in a pub in England.

    So a number of movies that people don't "get" are actually a bit ahead of their time.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Curle, @Dennis Dale

  22. @Whiskey
    All of culture, entertainment, literature, film music etc must be and will be 100% black. All black all the time.

    Which means every smart young or not made it rich White man is on our side.

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Whiskey, you are so correct.The governor of California, a state with a black population of 6%, is being ordered by blacks to appoint a black to replace Kamala Harris in the US Senate. California will propably have a new Senator who is black.

    • Disagree: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Buffalo Joe

    I’m with David Cole on this one. The Hispanics and Asians will have none of it. They sure won’t go for the LBGT crowd either. Any California Black Senator will be a leverage point for BLM/Antifa and nobody’s in the mood for a David Dinkin’s type right now.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/california-secedes-from-black-america/

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    , @Gary in Gramercy
    @Buffalo Joe

    We went through this on the Gavin Newsom thread, but it's unlikely Harris's replacement will be black. Blacks just aren't plentiful, rich or influential enough in California politics to make this kind of demand on Newsom, a man with his eyes on even higher office than the governorship of California.

    In a comment on the other thread, I suggested that Newsom would look to a rich Democratic donor who checks off at least one of the favored minority boxes. Someone like David Geffen. (Under normal circumstances, Willie Brown would be the obvious choice, but there's no percentage for Newsom in angering the incoming Vice President. Particularly if she were to become President.)

    If Newsom has competent political advisers, at least one of them should have suggested approaching Geffen, ostensibly to "pick his brain" about possible Senate selections, and then have the Governor pop the question: "David, you could save me a lot of time and trouble if you would agree to serve as a caretaker Senator until the seat is up for election in 2022." Knowing Geffen's penchant for both privacy (ever seen the hedges that surround his Beverly Hills home?) and informality (hard to imagine him in a suit and tie every day on the Senate floor), he would almost certainly demur. But he would be pleased that Newsom paid him the respect of making the offer before giving it to some workaday politician. He'd dine out on it for weeks, if not months. ("Warren, guess who stopped by on Sunday for brunch? And guess what he wanted." With Geffen, the "Warren" could be Buffett, or Beatty.)

    And when Newsom needs someone to head up the finance arm of the "Newsom for President 2028" exploratory committee, who better than David Geffen?

    Replies: @Neuday, @Bill Jones, @Ed

  23. @Anonymous

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    This may be part of it, but a bigger reason is generational.

    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson were/are popular with Generation X white guys. Millenial and younger white guys find them to be cringe-y and embarrassing. The younger tastes are in reaction to Boomerism and Gen X dweebiness, hence the preference for more hard edged, hard right stuff and aesthetics on the young Right, and more militant leftism and old school Marxism on the young Left.

    Replies: @SFG, @Dennis Dale, @Bardon Kaldian, @jamie b., @Peter Akuleyev, @Kratoklastes

    That’s definitely part of it too, no? Every artistic movement rebels against the last one.

    I have to say I never cared for Wes Anderson.

  24. @syonredux
    @JimDandy

    That's kinda understandable. EYES WIDE SHUT is terrible, easily Kubrick's worst film.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Inquiring Mind

    I enjoyed it, and the novel it was adapted from. But who cares about our personal tastes, the people I’m talking about bristle at it on political grounds–gender politics, etc.

  25. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    That is why I liked the movie.

  26. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film’s “implicit endorsement of White supremacy.”

    Which is interesting. Kubrick was Jewish. In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism. It also tends to indicate that in the eyes of the Woke Jews are just evil white people.

    • Replies: @SFG
    @dfordoom

    This was predicted by a perspicacious White man of Swiss ancestry in the Upper Midwest whose imagination and ancestral experience in a multicultural milieu allowed him to see beyond the limits of the day. Since he knew the cultural forces that were gathering against him, he left the warning in code, in a cryptic warning that those who could see could properly interpret. This was directed at alienated bright young White men, the group who would be the first to feel the growing ire of Diversity and would be the most important in creating a resistance to it.

    I refer, of course, to Gary Gygax:

    "Once created the ... golem is under the command of the cleric who created it. Each melee round the ... golem is in combat there is a 1% cumulative chance that it will be imbued with a chaotic evil spirit. If this happens, the ... golem immediately passes from the control of the cleric and attacks any living thing, moving to the closest one to attack, and proceeding on to the next after killing it. This behavior will continue until the golem is destroyed, for control can never be regained."

    Replies: @syonredux

    , @al gore rhythms
    @dfordoom

    "In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism"

    But then, it's not really Kubrick's Jewishness that's the problem, it's the cast's whiteness. If Kubrick had been making the film today he would just have cast non-whites in all the main roles and there wouldn't have been a problem.

    I've never heard of a Woke complaint that there are too many Jewish film directors.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Unladen Swallow, @Herp McDerp

  27. For a coffeetable book with the ultimate backspin, check out a tome called “Accidentally Wes Anderson”, which has real life places that look like they should be in a Wes Anderson movie. (For those of you scratching your head at home, put ‘honest trailer every wes anderson’ into the searchbar at youtube.)

  28. @dfordoom
    @syonredux


    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film’s “implicit endorsement of White supremacy.”
     
    Which is interesting. Kubrick was Jewish. In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism. It also tends to indicate that in the eyes of the Woke Jews are just evil white people.

    Replies: @SFG, @al gore rhythms

    This was predicted by a perspicacious White man of Swiss ancestry in the Upper Midwest whose imagination and ancestral experience in a multicultural milieu allowed him to see beyond the limits of the day. Since he knew the cultural forces that were gathering against him, he left the warning in code, in a cryptic warning that those who could see could properly interpret. This was directed at alienated bright young White men, the group who would be the first to feel the growing ire of Diversity and would be the most important in creating a resistance to it.

    I refer, of course, to Gary Gygax:

    “Once created the … golem is under the command of the cleric who created it. Each melee round the … golem is in combat there is a 1% cumulative chance that it will be imbued with a chaotic evil spirit. If this happens, the … golem immediately passes from the control of the cleric and attacks any living thing, moving to the closest one to attack, and proceeding on to the next after killing it. This behavior will continue until the golem is destroyed, for control can never be regained.”

    • Thanks: Chrisnonymous
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @SFG

    Of course, D&D is now Woke AF:


    A Wondrous People

    Whenever you find yourself in a bustling city, you're likely to spot a wonderful variety of folk. You hear words in languages utterly foreign to you, and you smell dishes both delectable and strange. Waterdeep is the ultimate city of such delights, and before long, the alien thing becomes familiar to you, and the stranger becomes your friend.
     


    The people of Waterdeep are among the greatest of its splendors. Fashion, comportment, love-these things are practiced with an art and a zest in the city uncommon elsewhere. Visit a festhall or festival and see for yourself! And don't miss the cross-dressing performers who regale audiences with humor and song. Fabulous-that word doesn't begin to describe it, especially when they enhance the merriment with magic.
     

    The city is also a haven for those who define for themselves what it means to be a man or a woman, those who transcend gender as the gods do, and those who redefine entirely who they are. What confidence! I never tire of witnessing it. I have seen folk in Waterdeep whose lives are more magical than the marvels possible with spells.
     
    https://geekdad.com/2018/10/waterdeep-dragon-heist-go-hunting-treasure-on-your-next-dd-5th-edition-campaign/


    https://www.sarahdarkmagic.com/sites/www.sarahdarkmagic.com/files/images/VajraSafahr.preview.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8f/0c/ca/8f0cca079c3c17ed1661e0bcc21fdc75.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SFG, @SOL, @Ray P, @Percy Gryce

  29. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    With regard to 2001, and as a kind of memorial her, we should take a moment to remember Judith Rich Harris’ explanation for the development of white people–beauty.

  30. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.

    So that’s Joe En-lai’s role in the new administration.


    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar

    OT:

    Last night, Secretary of State-designee Anthony Blinken posted a new music video to his YouTube channel.

    He doesn't sing very well, but his band is decent.

    https://youtu.be/A4sSpLqEruQ

    Replies: @Curle

  31. Bill Simmons would have fit in here as a GenXer with a large male following (though in sports and pop culture). After many years as the premier ESPN columnist, he started a somewhat successful website, burned it to the ground by pissing off his patron, started another website, and then alienated a large portion of audience by non-stop pandering to the Woke. Simmons doesn’t regularly write anymore, probably because hardly anyone wants to read him. I think he limits his output to a few hours of podcasting a week. He will be unpersoned soon. His job is too cushy for him to remain there long without contributing anything.

    You can’t be an ally and the power behind the throne. Makes one think of a similar situation involving a senile politician with delusions of grandeur…

    • Replies: @Morton's toes
    @LRFD

    I thought Simmons downfall was when he sided with Ray Rice after Rice's domestic abuse punishment was cranked way up after the video from the elevator security camera was released. Rice admitted his guilt, got punished, didn't himself do anything else. But then everybody saw the video and freaked out. My memory was hazy but as I recall Goodell claimed he had not seen the video and Simmons called him a liar. It was like the headline in his blog post. "Goodell is a liar". Something like that.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Feryl, @Sancho

    , @Peter Akuleyev
    @LRFD

    alienated a large portion of audience by non-stop pandering to the Woke

    I thought you were going to make the opposite point. Simmons is exactly the sort of culturally left Gen-X white male who has not moved to full Woke as fast as the crowds demand, and is now regularly attacked on Twitter by Millennials as a "privileged white male" who is irrelevant. Recently Simmons has even started backpedaling, probably realizing he can't win by outwoking the woke. He has started letting Ryan Rusillo make a few non-PC points on the podcast occasionally, and has started muttering about "cancel culture", although not very loudly yet. He may yet join his buddy Carolla, although I suspect Bill is scared of his wife.

    This is exactly what Abe was talking about.

    The fact that Simmons is kind of lazy and resting on his very lucrative laurels makes it hard to feel sorry for him, but the basic point still stands.

  32. @JimDandy
    @Plug butters

    You're the one totally out of touch with reality. You obviously didn't know what you were talking about to begin with, and then you completely lost the plot by the end of your post. Incels? Pretending to be nice? What?

    Abe asserted that in contemporary fiction, "White guys must now be 'allies', which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee."

    Today's cancel culture--particularly on Twitter--is so strong when it comes to contemporary fiction that it greatly impacts the literary gatekeepers' decisions about which books will ever make it into print. The New York publishing world (agents, editors, and especially critics) makes academia seem mild by comparison when it comes to comic-book-caricature levels of wokeness, social justice warring, and DEI concerns. By denying this, you're just admitting that you have zero knowledge on the subject. Stop embarrassing yourself. Or don't. Maybe you get off on it.

    From a recent review in The New Republic:

    It’s never a great time to publish a book in which all or nearly all the characters are white, but now would seem to be a particularly bad time to do so.... The answer, of course, is to just be sincere. But for American literature set in white worlds, that recourse may not be available. It would mean accepting that white people do not have to check their privilege so assiduously. It would mean, essentially, admitting that it’s OK to be white—a phrase that, as it happens, has been gleefully adopted by trolls on the alt-right. Life .

    But once the white writer puts non-whites in their fiction:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/lionel-shrivers-full-speech-i-hope-the-concept-of-cultural-appropriation-is-a-passing-fad

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @SFG

    Uh, Jim, didn’t you recognize “Plug Butters” as our old friend? Perhaps the lack of typos this time was deceiving.

    • Thanks: JimDandy
    • LOL: Kronos
    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Reg Cæsar

    Such a classy thread.

    https://youtu.be/pCExEPEttr8

    , @clyde
    @Reg Cæsar

    lol...One of the most bizarre posts ever at UNZ.

  33. @Buffalo Joe
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, you are so correct.The governor of California, a state with a black population of 6%, is being ordered by blacks to appoint a black to replace Kamala Harris in the US Senate. California will propably have a new Senator who is black.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Gary in Gramercy

    I’m with David Cole on this one. The Hispanics and Asians will have none of it. They sure won’t go for the LBGT crowd either. Any California Black Senator will be a leverage point for BLM/Antifa and nobody’s in the mood for a David Dinkin’s type right now.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/california-secedes-from-black-america/

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Kronos

    Kronos, we will see. There is something toxic in California water.

  34. Wes Anderson can just join the rest of us Ascended Whites here in China.

    Isle of Dogs (which was excellent — although my favorite is Grand Budapest Hotel) was in part financed by a Chinese company anyway. It also grossed really well here. Turns out the Chinese are SWPL fans.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/filmart-wes-andersons-isle-dogs-set-china-release-1095816

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Supply and Demand

    At this rate the toxicity of white males will force the government to quarantine them a series of islands.

    I call dips on the half-finished subway sandwich!

    https://youtu.be/2Lxqzem01IU

    Replies: @botazefa

  35. @Reg Cæsar
    @JimDandy

    Uh, Jim, didn't you recognize "Plug Butters" as our old friend? Perhaps the lack of typos this time was deceiving.




    https://i.imgur.com/AUiacrz.png


    The Duckie and the Anal Plug
    A global tour of contemporary public art



    https://i.etsystatic.com/10090510/d/il/014e33/1998383925/il_340x270.1998383925_56rn.jpg?version=0

    Replies: @Kronos, @clyde

    Such a classy thread.

  36. @Supply and Demand
    Wes Anderson can just join the rest of us Ascended Whites here in China.

    Isle of Dogs (which was excellent -- although my favorite is Grand Budapest Hotel) was in part financed by a Chinese company anyway. It also grossed really well here. Turns out the Chinese are SWPL fans.

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/filmart-wes-andersons-isle-dogs-set-china-release-1095816

    Replies: @Kronos

    At this rate the toxicity of white males will force the government to quarantine them a series of islands.

    I call dips on the half-finished subway sandwich!

    • Replies: @botazefa
    @Kronos


    I call dips
     
    Uh...

    Replies: @Kronos

  37. @dfordoom
    @syonredux


    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film’s “implicit endorsement of White supremacy.”
     
    Which is interesting. Kubrick was Jewish. In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism. It also tends to indicate that in the eyes of the Woke Jews are just evil white people.

    Replies: @SFG, @al gore rhythms

    “In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism”

    But then, it’s not really Kubrick’s Jewishness that’s the problem, it’s the cast’s whiteness. If Kubrick had been making the film today he would just have cast non-whites in all the main roles and there wouldn’t have been a problem.

    I’ve never heard of a Woke complaint that there are too many Jewish film directors.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @al gore rhythms


    I’ve never heard of a Woke complaint that there are too many Jewish film directors.
     
    There are not too many of them. Producers, screenwriters....yes, but top directors- no. Even in Anglosphere only.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    @al gore rhythms

    I don't know if he would do that, Kubrick never felt much need to conform to Hollywood dictates, that's why he moved to London in the early 1960's and stayed there. Pretty sure most astronauts are white, even today. I just saw a piece ( woke of course ) in the NYT complaining that the black astronaut that just went up to the International Space Station on the latest SpaceX flight will be the first one that is staying there for an extended mission, the rest were on the Shuttle for only brief visits.

    , @Herp McDerp
    @al gore rhythms

    If Kubrick had been making the film today he would just have cast non-whites in all the main roles and there wouldn’t have been a problem.

    But Kubrick made 2001 in England in the mid-1960s, and there weren't very many Actors of Color in Britain back then. The British government had a rule that a certain percentage of the actors in British films had to be British. So what could Kubrick have done? (This is the reason, by the way, that so many of the Empire's spear carriers in Star Wars spoke with British accents.)

  38. @SFG
    @dfordoom

    This was predicted by a perspicacious White man of Swiss ancestry in the Upper Midwest whose imagination and ancestral experience in a multicultural milieu allowed him to see beyond the limits of the day. Since he knew the cultural forces that were gathering against him, he left the warning in code, in a cryptic warning that those who could see could properly interpret. This was directed at alienated bright young White men, the group who would be the first to feel the growing ire of Diversity and would be the most important in creating a resistance to it.

    I refer, of course, to Gary Gygax:

    "Once created the ... golem is under the command of the cleric who created it. Each melee round the ... golem is in combat there is a 1% cumulative chance that it will be imbued with a chaotic evil spirit. If this happens, the ... golem immediately passes from the control of the cleric and attacks any living thing, moving to the closest one to attack, and proceeding on to the next after killing it. This behavior will continue until the golem is destroyed, for control can never be regained."

    Replies: @syonredux

    Of course, D&D is now Woke AF:

    A Wondrous People

    Whenever you find yourself in a bustling city, you’re likely to spot a wonderful variety of folk. You hear words in languages utterly foreign to you, and you smell dishes both delectable and strange. Waterdeep is the ultimate city of such delights, and before long, the alien thing becomes familiar to you, and the stranger becomes your friend.

    The people of Waterdeep are among the greatest of its splendors. Fashion, comportment, love-these things are practiced with an art and a zest in the city uncommon elsewhere. Visit a festhall or festival and see for yourself! And don’t miss the cross-dressing performers who regale audiences with humor and song. Fabulous-that word doesn’t begin to describe it, especially when they enhance the merriment with magic.

    The city is also a haven for those who define for themselves what it means to be a man or a woman, those who transcend gender as the gods do, and those who redefine entirely who they are. What confidence! I never tire of witnessing it. I have seen folk in Waterdeep whose lives are more magical than the marvels possible with spells.

    https://geekdad.com/2018/10/waterdeep-dragon-heist-go-hunting-treasure-on-your-next-dd-5th-edition-campaign/


    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @syonredux

    There really is no escaping these ludicrous perverts, is there?

    , @SFG
    @syonredux

    I saw that.

    I have to say, in a game with wizards and dragons it doesn't seem too nuts to have a warrior or wizard who came over from the Africa-analog. Since it's an analog HBD doesn't even apply. Maybe there *is* an actual Wakanda in your fantasy world, why not?

    Back in the days of 2nd ed they had fantasy-Asia (Kara-Tur, which started as 1st ed Oriental Adventures), fantasy-Arabia (Al-Qadim), and fantasy-Mesoamerica (Maztlan). They probably thought they were being culturally broad, and of course nerds have always loved Asian, particularly Japanese, stuff. Oriental Adventures got as far as being rebooted for 3rd ed. Now, of course, it's cultural appropriation.

    , @SOL
    @syonredux

    Nice pseudo-halo.

    , @Ray P
    @syonredux

    The First Edition of Advanced Dungeons and Dragons which was Gary Gygax's creation featured half-orcs, half-elves and the polymorph spell which allowed any caster to assume the form of the opposite sex. "The spell does not give the other abilities" of the creature so it may be that one cannot gain the special powers of the opposite sex such as conception, pregnancy etc.

    , @Percy Gryce
    @syonredux

    I've been thinking about the origins of D&D a lot recently. There's now a fair bit of published work on the subject. My thesis is that D&D/RPGs were the sissification of wargaming. One might even describe them as an early wokening. Wargaming was physics; RPGs were cultural studies.

    So the current SJWification of D&D was probably baked into the cake.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

  39. @Twinkie

    White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    Until it's time for the Woke/SJW females to date or marry. ;)

    Replies: @SFG, @Whiskey

    Which is likely to be black guys. See all the advertising. White women fantasy.

    The status difference alone is huge.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Whiskey

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/05/17/10364560-6994817-B-a-84_1557072851517.jpg

    Yeah, that guy looks so black.

    Replies: @Polistra, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Abe

    , @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Whiskey


    Which is likely to be black guys.
     
    I'm sorry, but that's just not true. Rich White women marry rich men. Race may be almost irrelevant in the equation...but most rich American men are White. Especially the ones that tend to be ensconced within the social circles of rich White women.

    Getting impregnated (marriage is rarely a part of the package) by random Negro criminal-types, is a privilege reserved for the daughters of the working & middle classes. Our elite take care of their own.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Curle

  40. @njguy73
    @JimDandy

    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen. He should write a nonfiction book about his favorite hobby.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SFG, @Alden, @Rahan

    Or pretend he’s a woman, Georgia Eliot.

  41. @njguy73
    @JimDandy

    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen. He should write a nonfiction book about his favorite hobby.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @SFG, @Alden, @Rahan

    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen

    Wolfe already cought the last possible moment in which Bonfire of the Vanities could have been published by a big house. And still the then popular “navel-gazer” Jewish and crypto-Jewish writers made it their business to attack Wolfe constantly.

    Back then they couldn’t come out and say it’s because he’s “an obvious gentile fascist” with his attempts to be the Tolstoy of his age making him an “obvious Nazi”, instead of focusing on seedy middle aged men with masturbation compulsions and daddy issues. So they pretended they hated him for his style. And he pretended this was the cause of the conflict as well.

    There can be no next Tom Wolfe unless the system is reset, and not in the currently popular sense.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Rahan

    Nevertheless the author of “The Turner Diaries” marveled, even at that earlier date, that Wolfe got away with what he did!

    , @SFG
    @Rahan

    Seedy middle-aged men with...you mean Philip Roth? Didn't he write that novel at the end where he made fun of Communists? I always wonder if that's why they turned on him.

  42. @Anonymouz
    I recall the fawning review of ‘The Corrections’ by a young female columnist in my local paper. She was completely dismissive of Franzen when reviewing his second novel. It was like she was plugging her nose while reading it. I thought, she is obviously going with the cultural flow. I was embarrassed for her. So shallow and fickle. If nothing else, it’s fascinating to witness this phenomenon.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @James O'Meara

    She was completely dismissive of Franzen when reviewing his second novel.

    IMHO, Freedom was easily his best novel. The main female character was a bit of a whiney victim-loser, though. So maybe that struck a nerve with the reviewer.

    • Replies: @International Jew
    @Hypnotoad666

    My favorite Franzen novel too, and spot on about the wife.

    I liked Walter, but wherever he finds himself now, I'll bet he's sold out to wokeness.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

  43. @Anonymous

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    This may be part of it, but a bigger reason is generational.

    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson were/are popular with Generation X white guys. Millenial and younger white guys find them to be cringe-y and embarrassing. The younger tastes are in reaction to Boomerism and Gen X dweebiness, hence the preference for more hard edged, hard right stuff and aesthetics on the young Right, and more militant leftism and old school Marxism on the young Left.

    Replies: @SFG, @Dennis Dale, @Bardon Kaldian, @jamie b., @Peter Akuleyev, @Kratoklastes

    Nah. Wallace and Anderson only appear dweeby to dummies. Millennials are harder? I wish. I’ve found their attitude is essentially feminine–lower sense of humor, higher sense of personal offense and psychological frailty–about which they bore you to tears humble-bragging.

    Who was the kid on Saturday Night Live whose whole schtick is that he’s an emotional basket case because his dad died on 9/11? The poster boy for Generation Cope right there.

    Don’t you ever talk shit about boomers, young man.

    • Agree: Escher
    • Thanks: Ragno
  44. @LRFD
    Bill Simmons would have fit in here as a GenXer with a large male following (though in sports and pop culture). After many years as the premier ESPN columnist, he started a somewhat successful website, burned it to the ground by pissing off his patron, started another website, and then alienated a large portion of audience by non-stop pandering to the Woke. Simmons doesn’t regularly write anymore, probably because hardly anyone wants to read him. I think he limits his output to a few hours of podcasting a week. He will be unpersoned soon. His job is too cushy for him to remain there long without contributing anything.

    You can’t be an ally and the power behind the throne. Makes one think of a similar situation involving a senile politician with delusions of grandeur...

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Peter Akuleyev

    I thought Simmons downfall was when he sided with Ray Rice after Rice’s domestic abuse punishment was cranked way up after the video from the elevator security camera was released. Rice admitted his guilt, got punished, didn’t himself do anything else. But then everybody saw the video and freaked out. My memory was hazy but as I recall Goodell claimed he had not seen the video and Simmons called him a liar. It was like the headline in his blog post. “Goodell is a liar”. Something like that.

    • Replies: @Feryl
    @Morton's toes

    In his podcast (I think still published by ESPN at the time) he called Goodell a "F#$#ing liar" and was then suspended several weeks. He started his own website to get away from censorship (he used to bitterly complain that he wasn't allowed to make fun of bad announcers). It was in Obama's 2nd term that he started to go full woke; and you can imagine what happened after Trump got elected.

    Simmons was golden before 2010. He used to reference Jordan's gambling problem being hushed up and the reason for his "retirement" in 1995. He used to cite the frequency of female athlete knee blow-outs without further commentary (none was needed).

    Simmons is a shining example of how much internet culture 2.0 (after Obama) sucks. He used to be part of what made 1.0 (pre-Obama) so fun and insightful.

    And you're right, he barely does anythng anymore, basically forfeiting his once high status among internet celebrities. He's claimed that people (especially young ones) don't read long internet columns anymore, even though many websites still use that trad format.

    , @Feryl
    @Morton's toes

    Another big reason for Simmons' sellout was moving to LA to work on Jimmy Kimmel's show. He didn't last long on the show, but he said there was no big reason for him to go back East so he stayed in LA and went Hollywood. Simmons always played up his interest in movies and TV, so maybe it's not surprising he got seduced into elite West coast woketardism

    , @Sancho
    @Morton's toes

    Bill Simmons just sold his website to Spotify for $250mm. He’s had no downfall: https://www.businessinsider.com/spotify-ringer-deal-price-250-million-podcasting-bill-simmons-report-2020-2

  45. @SFG
    @njguy73

    Or go directly to the audience and forget about literary prizes. The paperbacks still seem fairly male.

    Replies: @njguy73

    Yeah, I can see male novelists just doing everything via Patreon, Amazon self-publishing, or their own websites. Forget landing a deal with the big publishing houses. Just like how innovative filmmakers will spurn Hollywood, and how innovative musicians spurn that industry.

  46. @Rahan
    @njguy73


    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen
     
    Wolfe already cought the last possible moment in which Bonfire of the Vanities could have been published by a big house. And still the then popular "navel-gazer" Jewish and crypto-Jewish writers made it their business to attack Wolfe constantly.

    Back then they couldn't come out and say it's because he's "an obvious gentile fascist" with his attempts to be the Tolstoy of his age making him an "obvious Nazi", instead of focusing on seedy middle aged men with masturbation compulsions and daddy issues. So they pretended they hated him for his style. And he pretended this was the cause of the conflict as well.

    There can be no next Tom Wolfe unless the system is reset, and not in the currently popular sense.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @SFG

    Nevertheless the author of “The Turner Diaries” marveled, even at that earlier date, that Wolfe got away with what he did!

  47. @Reg Cæsar

    White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.

     

    So that's Joe En-lai's role in the new administration.

    https://thepitchkc.com/content/uploads/2019/07/biden_coffee-1024x644.png

    https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5f346c9b322964f142b444b2/master/pass/Cassidy-Wilmington.jpg


    https://thearabweekly.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_image_800x450_/public/2020-11/12.jpg?itok=DHGeGXKG

    Replies: @PiltdownMan

    OT:

    Last night, Secretary of State-designee Anthony Blinken posted a new music video to his YouTube channel.

    He doesn’t sing very well, but his band is decent.

    • Replies: @Curle
    @PiltdownMan

    This song seems more appropriate.










    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJAlIHsXcLY

  48. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    syon–, thanks.

    What’s profoundly sad is that White “supremacy” amounts to a deeply flawed Euro-American people that has a track record of beating the brains out of one another (Thirty Years War, 1914-1945 War, etc.), and also creating immense prosperity for masses of people, many of whom are not Euro-American, through ways of thinking and social organization unavailable to other peoples. The “sad” part is that political hustlers refuse to recognize the Euro-American “talent package” is a combo deal.

    By contrast, what has Black supremacy offered to either Whites or Blacks, or anyone else anywhere?

    • Agree: Rob McX
    • Replies: @Curle
    @JackOH

    “ what has Black supremacy offered to either Whites or Blacks, or anyone else anywhere?”

    All that stuff you attributed to whites in the prior paragraph. I just checked a draft history book to be published in 2040.

    , @Whiskey
    @JackOH

    Black supremacy offers many things White women go nuts for: twerking, violence, thuggery, crunk, purple drank, drugs in general. And a complete lack of male nerdiness and intelligence which is innate repellent to women.

    It offers nothing to White men but we don't count and never have.

    Replies: @WriterAnon, @Dennis Dale

  49. @Hypnotoad666
    @Anonymouz


    She was completely dismissive of Franzen when reviewing his second novel.
     
    IMHO, Freedom was easily his best novel. The main female character was a bit of a whiney victim-loser, though. So maybe that struck a nerve with the reviewer.

    Replies: @International Jew

    My favorite Franzen novel too, and spot on about the wife.

    I liked Walter, but wherever he finds himself now, I’ll bet he’s sold out to wokeness.

    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @International Jew


    I liked Walter, but wherever he finds himself now, I’ll bet he’s sold out to wokeness.
     
    Yes, Walter was a cuck. R.I.P.
  50. @syonredux
    @SFG

    Of course, D&D is now Woke AF:


    A Wondrous People

    Whenever you find yourself in a bustling city, you're likely to spot a wonderful variety of folk. You hear words in languages utterly foreign to you, and you smell dishes both delectable and strange. Waterdeep is the ultimate city of such delights, and before long, the alien thing becomes familiar to you, and the stranger becomes your friend.
     


    The people of Waterdeep are among the greatest of its splendors. Fashion, comportment, love-these things are practiced with an art and a zest in the city uncommon elsewhere. Visit a festhall or festival and see for yourself! And don't miss the cross-dressing performers who regale audiences with humor and song. Fabulous-that word doesn't begin to describe it, especially when they enhance the merriment with magic.
     

    The city is also a haven for those who define for themselves what it means to be a man or a woman, those who transcend gender as the gods do, and those who redefine entirely who they are. What confidence! I never tire of witnessing it. I have seen folk in Waterdeep whose lives are more magical than the marvels possible with spells.
     
    https://geekdad.com/2018/10/waterdeep-dragon-heist-go-hunting-treasure-on-your-next-dd-5th-edition-campaign/


    https://www.sarahdarkmagic.com/sites/www.sarahdarkmagic.com/files/images/VajraSafahr.preview.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8f/0c/ca/8f0cca079c3c17ed1661e0bcc21fdc75.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SFG, @SOL, @Ray P, @Percy Gryce

    There really is no escaping these ludicrous perverts, is there?

  51. @Whiskey
    @Twinkie

    Which is likely to be black guys. See all the advertising. White women fantasy.

    The status difference alone is huge.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Servant of Gla'aki

    Yeah, that guy looks so black.

    • Replies: @Polistra
    @Twinkie

    Well that was a remarkably stupid post. One example disproves his point? Where he said likely?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Twinkie

    Do you think AOC makes him use the affirmative consent app or is she the romantic type that uses the old-fashioned Oberlin consent form?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Abe
    @Twinkie

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and...”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @John Johnson, @Twinkie, @Neoconned

  52. @SFG
    @Twinkie

    Do you think they marry writers, or bankers?

    Replies: @Redneck farmer

    A ruthless banker who just happens to be a sensitive writer. So the wife can say both, “He’s so caring” and the even more important, “Do you know who my husband is”?!.

  53. @Morton's toes
    @LRFD

    I thought Simmons downfall was when he sided with Ray Rice after Rice's domestic abuse punishment was cranked way up after the video from the elevator security camera was released. Rice admitted his guilt, got punished, didn't himself do anything else. But then everybody saw the video and freaked out. My memory was hazy but as I recall Goodell claimed he had not seen the video and Simmons called him a liar. It was like the headline in his blog post. "Goodell is a liar". Something like that.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Feryl, @Sancho

    In his podcast (I think still published by ESPN at the time) he called Goodell a “F#$#ing liar” and was then suspended several weeks. He started his own website to get away from censorship (he used to bitterly complain that he wasn’t allowed to make fun of bad announcers). It was in Obama’s 2nd term that he started to go full woke; and you can imagine what happened after Trump got elected.

    Simmons was golden before 2010. He used to reference Jordan’s gambling problem being hushed up and the reason for his “retirement” in 1995. He used to cite the frequency of female athlete knee blow-outs without further commentary (none was needed).

    Simmons is a shining example of how much internet culture 2.0 (after Obama) sucks. He used to be part of what made 1.0 (pre-Obama) so fun and insightful.

    And you’re right, he barely does anythng anymore, basically forfeiting his once high status among internet celebrities. He’s claimed that people (especially young ones) don’t read long internet columns anymore, even though many websites still use that trad format.

    • Agree: LRFD
  54. @Steve Sailer
    @njguy73

    In the future, literary men will only write about baseball statistics.

    Replies: @anon, @JimDandy, @Anonymous, @Polistra

    Past a certain point, baseball stats are interesting only to nerdy jews and George Will. That is, people who could never really play the game.

    • Replies: @James O'Meara
    @Polistra

    When growing up in Detroit in the 60s/70s, while there was some interest in the Tigers when winning the pennant and such, it was largely taken for granted that anyone interested in baseball -- talking about it, going to "the game", hanging out at Lindell's AC in hopes of seeing a player, listening to Ernie Harwell on a transistor radio -- was a retard, usually wearing white socks, green highwater pants and a plaid shirt, all from Sears.

    It wasn't until moving away that I gradually realized there were places where "normal" people were interested in spectator sports, and were even considered "cool." Funny world.

  55. @Twinkie
    @Whiskey

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/05/17/10364560-6994817-B-a-84_1557072851517.jpg

    Yeah, that guy looks so black.

    Replies: @Polistra, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Abe

    Well that was a remarkably stupid post. One example disproves his point? Where he said likely?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Polistra


    Well that was a remarkably stupid post. One example disproves his point? Where he said likely?
     
    Well, he provided zero example, so you should go hurl personal insults at him.

    I can give you more examples. But try a search engine. Many of these prominent Woke women are married to pale males, including... Kamala Harris.
  56. @Morton's toes
    @LRFD

    I thought Simmons downfall was when he sided with Ray Rice after Rice's domestic abuse punishment was cranked way up after the video from the elevator security camera was released. Rice admitted his guilt, got punished, didn't himself do anything else. But then everybody saw the video and freaked out. My memory was hazy but as I recall Goodell claimed he had not seen the video and Simmons called him a liar. It was like the headline in his blog post. "Goodell is a liar". Something like that.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Feryl, @Sancho

    Another big reason for Simmons’ sellout was moving to LA to work on Jimmy Kimmel’s show. He didn’t last long on the show, but he said there was no big reason for him to go back East so he stayed in LA and went Hollywood. Simmons always played up his interest in movies and TV, so maybe it’s not surprising he got seduced into elite West coast woketardism

  57. @Buffalo Joe
    @Whiskey

    Whiskey, you are so correct.The governor of California, a state with a black population of 6%, is being ordered by blacks to appoint a black to replace Kamala Harris in the US Senate. California will propably have a new Senator who is black.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Gary in Gramercy

    We went through this on the Gavin Newsom thread, but it’s unlikely Harris’s replacement will be black. Blacks just aren’t plentiful, rich or influential enough in California politics to make this kind of demand on Newsom, a man with his eyes on even higher office than the governorship of California.

    In a comment on the other thread, I suggested that Newsom would look to a rich Democratic donor who checks off at least one of the favored minority boxes. Someone like David Geffen. (Under normal circumstances, Willie Brown would be the obvious choice, but there’s no percentage for Newsom in angering the incoming Vice President. Particularly if she were to become President.)

    If Newsom has competent political advisers, at least one of them should have suggested approaching Geffen, ostensibly to “pick his brain” about possible Senate selections, and then have the Governor pop the question: “David, you could save me a lot of time and trouble if you would agree to serve as a caretaker Senator until the seat is up for election in 2022.” Knowing Geffen’s penchant for both privacy (ever seen the hedges that surround his Beverly Hills home?) and informality (hard to imagine him in a suit and tie every day on the Senate floor), he would almost certainly demur. But he would be pleased that Newsom paid him the respect of making the offer before giving it to some workaday politician. He’d dine out on it for weeks, if not months. (“Warren, guess who stopped by on Sunday for brunch? And guess what he wanted.” With Geffen, the “Warren” could be Buffett, or Beatty.)

    And when Newsom needs someone to head up the finance arm of the “Newsom for President 2028” exploratory committee, who better than David Geffen?

    • Thanks: ic1000
    • Replies: @Neuday
    @Gary in Gramercy


    And when Newsom needs someone to head up the finance arm of the “Newsom for President 2028” exploratory committee, who better than David Geffen?
     
    David Geffen turns 78 in February. In 2028 he'll be 85.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    , @Bill Jones
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Beautifully plausible.

    btw, Didn't I see you once in Gramercy? I used to live there. Park that is...

    , @Ed
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Good chance there is a primary challenge on the Dem side in ‘24. The odds of Biden making it through his first term are dwindling. Harris isn’t that popular, even among Democrats.

    Replies: @Jack D

  58. @Anonymous

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    This may be part of it, but a bigger reason is generational.

    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson were/are popular with Generation X white guys. Millenial and younger white guys find them to be cringe-y and embarrassing. The younger tastes are in reaction to Boomerism and Gen X dweebiness, hence the preference for more hard edged, hard right stuff and aesthetics on the young Right, and more militant leftism and old school Marxism on the young Left.

    Replies: @SFG, @Dennis Dale, @Bardon Kaldian, @jamie b., @Peter Akuleyev, @Kratoklastes

    No, things are much simpler.

    SWPL: reading maudlin books on improving the world & finding oneself.

    SJW: reading nothing.

    Harold Bloom was right. Reading of imaginative literature, any reading will disappear.

  59. SWPLs are like the Hobbits, peacefully enjoying life in the Shire without knowing that the only reason they are left alone is because rough “deplorable” Rangers are patrolling their borders and keeping out the SJW and BLM Orcs.

    I myself tend towards the SWPL. Portlandia is my life goals. But I am cursed with the forbidden knowledge that Portland is only as great as it is because it is mostly white. And in that culture it is social suicide to articulate this knowledge openly, so inevitable that the race hustlers will get SWPLs to let their society be destroyed. I don’t know if a race realist SWPL society is possible or if we’re doomed to choose between NASCAR and the Wire.

    • Agree: utu, SimpleSong
  60. Thanks to overpopulation and mismanagement, South Africa is now facing droughts just like elsewhere in Africa. But they have a solution! Dimming the Sun. No, really.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/26/south-africa-considers-dimming-the-sun-to-avoid-running-out-of-water/

    Fortunately for this brilliant scheme, there are no air currents in the stratosphere.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Polistra

    Should work out great. Now we know what all those black scientists we've seen in ads down through the years were up to - a top secret project to dim the sun.

  61. @syonredux
    @SFG

    Of course, D&D is now Woke AF:


    A Wondrous People

    Whenever you find yourself in a bustling city, you're likely to spot a wonderful variety of folk. You hear words in languages utterly foreign to you, and you smell dishes both delectable and strange. Waterdeep is the ultimate city of such delights, and before long, the alien thing becomes familiar to you, and the stranger becomes your friend.
     


    The people of Waterdeep are among the greatest of its splendors. Fashion, comportment, love-these things are practiced with an art and a zest in the city uncommon elsewhere. Visit a festhall or festival and see for yourself! And don't miss the cross-dressing performers who regale audiences with humor and song. Fabulous-that word doesn't begin to describe it, especially when they enhance the merriment with magic.
     

    The city is also a haven for those who define for themselves what it means to be a man or a woman, those who transcend gender as the gods do, and those who redefine entirely who they are. What confidence! I never tire of witnessing it. I have seen folk in Waterdeep whose lives are more magical than the marvels possible with spells.
     
    https://geekdad.com/2018/10/waterdeep-dragon-heist-go-hunting-treasure-on-your-next-dd-5th-edition-campaign/


    https://www.sarahdarkmagic.com/sites/www.sarahdarkmagic.com/files/images/VajraSafahr.preview.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8f/0c/ca/8f0cca079c3c17ed1661e0bcc21fdc75.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SFG, @SOL, @Ray P, @Percy Gryce

    I saw that.

    I have to say, in a game with wizards and dragons it doesn’t seem too nuts to have a warrior or wizard who came over from the Africa-analog. Since it’s an analog HBD doesn’t even apply. Maybe there *is* an actual Wakanda in your fantasy world, why not?

    Back in the days of 2nd ed they had fantasy-Asia (Kara-Tur, which started as 1st ed Oriental Adventures), fantasy-Arabia (Al-Qadim), and fantasy-Mesoamerica (Maztlan). They probably thought they were being culturally broad, and of course nerds have always loved Asian, particularly Japanese, stuff. Oriental Adventures got as far as being rebooted for 3rd ed. Now, of course, it’s cultural appropriation.

  62. @Rahan
    @njguy73


    Any young, straight white male with literary aspirations should forget about being the next Tom Wolfe or Jonathan Franzen
     
    Wolfe already cought the last possible moment in which Bonfire of the Vanities could have been published by a big house. And still the then popular "navel-gazer" Jewish and crypto-Jewish writers made it their business to attack Wolfe constantly.

    Back then they couldn't come out and say it's because he's "an obvious gentile fascist" with his attempts to be the Tolstoy of his age making him an "obvious Nazi", instead of focusing on seedy middle aged men with masturbation compulsions and daddy issues. So they pretended they hated him for his style. And he pretended this was the cause of the conflict as well.

    There can be no next Tom Wolfe unless the system is reset, and not in the currently popular sense.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @SFG

    Seedy middle-aged men with…you mean Philip Roth? Didn’t he write that novel at the end where he made fun of Communists? I always wonder if that’s why they turned on him.

  63. @JimDandy
    @Plug butters

    You're the one totally out of touch with reality. You obviously didn't know what you were talking about to begin with, and then you completely lost the plot by the end of your post. Incels? Pretending to be nice? What?

    Abe asserted that in contemporary fiction, "White guys must now be 'allies', which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee."

    Today's cancel culture--particularly on Twitter--is so strong when it comes to contemporary fiction that it greatly impacts the literary gatekeepers' decisions about which books will ever make it into print. The New York publishing world (agents, editors, and especially critics) makes academia seem mild by comparison when it comes to comic-book-caricature levels of wokeness, social justice warring, and DEI concerns. By denying this, you're just admitting that you have zero knowledge on the subject. Stop embarrassing yourself. Or don't. Maybe you get off on it.

    From a recent review in The New Republic:

    It’s never a great time to publish a book in which all or nearly all the characters are white, but now would seem to be a particularly bad time to do so.... The answer, of course, is to just be sincere. But for American literature set in white worlds, that recourse may not be available. It would mean accepting that white people do not have to check their privilege so assiduously. It would mean, essentially, admitting that it’s OK to be white—a phrase that, as it happens, has been gleefully adopted by trolls on the alt-right. Life .

    But once the white writer puts non-whites in their fiction:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/13/lionel-shrivers-full-speech-i-hope-the-concept-of-cultural-appropriation-is-a-passing-fad

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @SFG

    I disagree with none of what you said, though when it comes to the political faddishness of the New York publishing world I suspect this has always been the case. My question is–how would one work around it? I’ve noticed a lot of pulp writers seem to be a lot less PC.

    (I am working my way through a bunch of romantic mysteries written by a lady who appears to be a Christian with seven kids on a farm–though for all we know she is a transgendered incel in Philadelphia–and some of the things she says… That and, well, I’m reading Milo Yiannopoulos’ Forbidden Thoughts anthology and keep thinking, I could do better than this!)

    ((I’ve hoarded a little over a million and still have about a 35-year life expectancy, 40 if I can make myself eat veggies. I was thinking of making a go of it…))

    (((Not gonna go alt-right though for the obvious reasons.)))

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @SFG

    when it comes to the political faddishness of the New York publishing world I suspect this has always been the case.

    It certainly has, but I feel like terms like "fad" and "pendulum" (a word others often use) are reductive ways of describing what what has happened/is happening to the New York publishing world. First of all, literary fiction hasn't been a money-maker for decades, but the names on those lists (and the attendant awards) still bring cachet, so the big houses essentially turned the "Serious Literature" imprints into boutique write-offs, while making their money on self-help books, vampire fiction, etc. And, just like the actual storefront boutique shops that rich hedge fund guys bankroll for their wives to keep them busy, those running literary fiction today--the agencies, the editorial staffs--became disproportionally made up of rich, east coast, liberal white women with uncles who know people in the industry. As profits became less important, the lit lists, of course, began to increasingly reflect the personal politics, tastes, and obsessions of the progressive female gatekeepers. The result is that something like 9 out of 10 fiction books today are purchased by women, and within the category of literary fiction the pie slice representing male readers is even smaller, and straight white men are sharing that space with a disproportionate representation of gay men (as well as minority males.)

    Straight white men are borderline-irrelevant in the literary fiction world, and I couldn't help but smile when I read Abe's observation that "I’ve noticed the hate-the-smart-sensitive-white-guy coefficient going through the roof lately," because if a straight, white male protagonist DOES happen to appear in contemporary fiction, you'd better believe he's going to be the "smart-sensitive" beta who is repulsed by the American literary tradition of complex and flawed masculine men created by authors like Hemingway, Mailer, etc. Abe nailed it when he wrote "White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee."

    Furthermore, content isn't the only deal-breaker today, and, when it comes to men, lack-of-whiteness isn't even a shield against the SJW pogroms--once-infallible minority darlings like American Indian Sherman Alexie and Puerto Rican Junot Diaz have had their careers perhaps irreparably damaged by #metoo witchhunt accusations.

    The standard wisdom is that whenever a vacuum is unnaturally created in some industry, demand will cause alternatives to pop up. But will some underground literary-fiction p.c.-free zone emerge in the near future? I'm not so sure. It's funny, when asked why men aren't reading anymore, the progressive gatekeepers tend to cite inherent gender differences--"Men are more attracted to non-fiction because men are more interested in the real world, whereas women have more creative, empathetic minds, blah, blah, blah." In large part, men stopped reading literary fiction because of the dearth of literary fiction that speaks to men.

    Add to all of this the fact that fewer people are reading books because technological advances have created countless informational/entertainment rivals, and the future looks pretty grim. But, whatever, gotta focus on the positive, right? Plays are still staged and it's not at all uncommon to see a turntable in someone's home. There will always be novel-readers. Within the several hundred million residents of this country alone, the tiny percentage that still reads quality fiction is a LOT of people. You are absolutely correct when you say that the other genres published by the big houses--crime/detective/thriller/espionage--are less bound by SJW tyranny, and self-publishing has never been more legitimate. COULD you pen politically-incorrect fiction and sell it to a loyal audience under-the-radar on Amazon with print-on-demand and electronic formats?

    Yep.

    Plus you have a million bucks? Put a portion of that into gold, and go for it. Better yet, set up a publishing house that prints not only your books but also other authors who have been orphaned during this Great Purge. Come back here and include a link in a comment. I'll be your first customer.

    , @WriterAnon
    @SFG

    The easiest way is to self publish on ADP or use a small press, which is essentially also self publishing. You don't have the marketing power of the big five or the satisfaction of having people consider you a"real" author, but it's also nice because the income is much more reliable and your royalties per unit are about an order of magnitude higher.

    There is a lot of money on the ground right now for a literary agent who represents big standard pulp commercial fiction like Tom Clancy or Robert Jordan or whoever because when you go on Query Teacher or PM, there are only a very small handful of old senior agents who even accept those submissions and generally they are too busy servicing their existing cash cow clients to take on new scribblers. A big problem is that most literary agents now are females with a strong financial support from their husbands or fathers or trust fund who do it almost as a hobby and aren't interested in representing people who will cost them social cachet even if it makes them a pile of money.

    For all the DIE stuff flying around the presses, the clone like homogeneity of the NYC agents is remarkable, and darkly amusing.

  64. @JimDandy
    The very real Catch-22 that has been imposed on straight, white male novelists is: if they write books primarily about themselves and people like them, they are savaged in the manner Abe describes, but if they stock their books heavily with minority/gay/etc. character, they are attacked because they have "no right" to create those characters. Lionel Shriver has done a great job of publicly calling out this type of insidious censorship, and she hasn't been cancelled, to my knowledge. But that's probably because she's a woman.

    Replies: @njguy73, @Plug butters, @Squid, @Desiderius, @Peter Akuleyev

    A woman named Lionel? That’s sick. Did they name her brother Sue?

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  65. @JimDandy
    The very real Catch-22 that has been imposed on straight, white male novelists is: if they write books primarily about themselves and people like them, they are savaged in the manner Abe describes, but if they stock their books heavily with minority/gay/etc. character, they are attacked because they have "no right" to create those characters. Lionel Shriver has done a great job of publicly calling out this type of insidious censorship, and she hasn't been cancelled, to my knowledge. But that's probably because she's a woman.

    Replies: @njguy73, @Plug butters, @Squid, @Desiderius, @Peter Akuleyev

    Mother Nature abhors nothing so much as a vacuum and there is nothing quite so vacuous as men addicted to passive voice.

    You invite your own domination and destruction by advertising, nay wallowing in, your impotent weakness.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    @Desiderius

    Your own word choices add up to a rather perverse, nay, juvenile and creepy voice, imo, but you do you, boo. There is nothing inherently weak or impotent about accurately articulating a problem/obstacle. Successful strategies are dependent on clear-eyed assessments.

  66. Wes Anderson will have to be destroyed.

    Case in point.

  67. @Twinkie
    @Whiskey

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/05/17/10364560-6994817-B-a-84_1557072851517.jpg

    Yeah, that guy looks so black.

    Replies: @Polistra, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Abe

    Do you think AOC makes him use the affirmative consent app or is she the romantic type that uses the old-fashioned Oberlin consent form?

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @The Wild Geese Howard


    Do you think AOC makes him use the affirmative consent app or is she the romantic type that uses the old-fashioned Oberlin consent form?
     
    Neither, so that when things go south, she can cry rape and tout herself as a victim of an oppressive white patriarchy.
  68. @Anonymous

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    This may be part of it, but a bigger reason is generational.

    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson were/are popular with Generation X white guys. Millenial and younger white guys find them to be cringe-y and embarrassing. The younger tastes are in reaction to Boomerism and Gen X dweebiness, hence the preference for more hard edged, hard right stuff and aesthetics on the young Right, and more militant leftism and old school Marxism on the young Left.

    Replies: @SFG, @Dennis Dale, @Bardon Kaldian, @jamie b., @Peter Akuleyev, @Kratoklastes

    Millennials all seem rather delicate to me, both psychologically and physically.

  69. @syonredux
    @JimDandy

    That's kinda understandable. EYES WIDE SHUT is terrible, easily Kubrick's worst film.

    Replies: @JimDandy, @Inquiring Mind

    Eyes Wide Shut? Didn’t see it, but from the description and the trailers, it was something I just plain didn’t “get.” I have a feeling a lot of people didn’t get it.

    With the NXIVM scandal/courtroom drama, if we still don’t get Eyes Wide Shut, we by now have an inkling of what it was about.

    NXIVM, I guess, is a sex cult combined with some kind of EST-like (remember when EST was a thing?) self-improvement/leadership training/life coach sort of arrangement.

    But it appears that Caligula-esque social behavior is a “thing” with at least some of the top-out-of-sight ultra rich? I really cannot picture Warren Buffet, the man from Omaha who has his wife count out the change for him to eat breakfast and hold court with fellow old-persons at McDonald’s, but still.

    A couple other fiction works that people didn’t quite catch on to are Orwell’s 1984 and Terry Gilliam’s “Brazil.”

    Animal Farm, heh, is as obvious as a C. S. Lewis allegory. It really hits you over the head with a clue bat that the lead pigs are Stalin and Trotsky. 1984, OK, we get it, a totalitarian socialist state and the entire world parceled out among 3 such states, but totalitarian socialism in England? Some say 1984 is a disguised 1948, and with strict rationing extending post WW-II, it appeared it was headed that way to some.

    Brazil, on the other hand, has nothing to do with England, it is about Brazil, or some goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American locale, right? It is about England, not some fictitious England but a satire on modern-day England, Brazil is the name of the Big Band-era song that was the recurrent theme music in the movie, also evocative that England has turned into a goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American-like country.

    I figured this out when there was a wave of car jackers preying on Florida tourists driving rental cars, it seems that multiple instances of British tourists came to violent harm or ended up dead, and the Brits put out an advisory “don’t travel to Florida, USA.”

    Then Governor Lawton Chiles then responded, “Oh yeah, what about those IRA terrorists blowing stuff up in England?” The IRA bombings weren’t strictly confined to Ulster, the IRA had a “strategic bombing campaign” against the English homeland, too, but the British did what they could to cover this up. The movie “In the Name of the Father” also came out, about a Northern Irish guy on the fringes of society who gets set up by the IRA as a patsy and his dad, actor Tom Postlethwaite gets framed for a notorious, deadly bombing in a pub in England.

    So a number of movies that people don’t “get” are actually a bit ahead of their time.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Inquiring Mind


    Eyes Wide Shut? Didn’t see it, but from the description and the trailers, it was something I just plain didn’t “get.” I have a feeling a lot of people didn’t get it.
     
    I "got" the picture. It was dull and lifeless.

    Good books/films stay good with repeated viewings; great books/films get better/gain in interest with additional viewings. I've watched EYES WIDE SHUT a half dozen times, and it gets worse with each viewing.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    , @Curle
    @Inquiring Mind

    Eyes Wide Shut is about elites entering suicide pacts.

    , @Dennis Dale
    @Inquiring Mind

    None of those examples show what you say. People didn't "get" 1984? Are you high?

  70. @Morton's toes
    @LRFD

    I thought Simmons downfall was when he sided with Ray Rice after Rice's domestic abuse punishment was cranked way up after the video from the elevator security camera was released. Rice admitted his guilt, got punished, didn't himself do anything else. But then everybody saw the video and freaked out. My memory was hazy but as I recall Goodell claimed he had not seen the video and Simmons called him a liar. It was like the headline in his blog post. "Goodell is a liar". Something like that.

    Replies: @Feryl, @Feryl, @Sancho

    Bill Simmons just sold his website to Spotify for $250mm. He’s had no downfall: https://www.businessinsider.com/spotify-ringer-deal-price-250-million-podcasting-bill-simmons-report-2020-2

  71. @SFG
    @JimDandy

    I disagree with none of what you said, though when it comes to the political faddishness of the New York publishing world I suspect this has always been the case. My question is--how would one work around it? I've noticed a lot of pulp writers seem to be a lot less PC.

    (I am working my way through a bunch of romantic mysteries written by a lady who appears to be a Christian with seven kids on a farm--though for all we know she is a transgendered incel in Philadelphia--and some of the things she says... That and, well, I'm reading Milo Yiannopoulos' Forbidden Thoughts anthology and keep thinking, I could do better than this!)

    ((I've hoarded a little over a million and still have about a 35-year life expectancy, 40 if I can make myself eat veggies. I was thinking of making a go of it...))

    (((Not gonna go alt-right though for the obvious reasons.)))

    Replies: @JimDandy, @WriterAnon

    when it comes to the political faddishness of the New York publishing world I suspect this has always been the case.

    It certainly has, but I feel like terms like “fad” and “pendulum” (a word others often use) are reductive ways of describing what what has happened/is happening to the New York publishing world. First of all, literary fiction hasn’t been a money-maker for decades, but the names on those lists (and the attendant awards) still bring cachet, so the big houses essentially turned the “Serious Literature” imprints into boutique write-offs, while making their money on self-help books, vampire fiction, etc. And, just like the actual storefront boutique shops that rich hedge fund guys bankroll for their wives to keep them busy, those running literary fiction today–the agencies, the editorial staffs–became disproportionally made up of rich, east coast, liberal white women with uncles who know people in the industry. As profits became less important, the lit lists, of course, began to increasingly reflect the personal politics, tastes, and obsessions of the progressive female gatekeepers. The result is that something like 9 out of 10 fiction books today are purchased by women, and within the category of literary fiction the pie slice representing male readers is even smaller, and straight white men are sharing that space with a disproportionate representation of gay men (as well as minority males.)

    Straight white men are borderline-irrelevant in the literary fiction world, and I couldn’t help but smile when I read Abe’s observation that “I’ve noticed the hate-the-smart-sensitive-white-guy coefficient going through the roof lately,” because if a straight, white male protagonist DOES happen to appear in contemporary fiction, you’d better believe he’s going to be the “smart-sensitive” beta who is repulsed by the American literary tradition of complex and flawed masculine men created by authors like Hemingway, Mailer, etc. Abe nailed it when he wrote “White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.”

    Furthermore, content isn’t the only deal-breaker today, and, when it comes to men, lack-of-whiteness isn’t even a shield against the SJW pogroms–once-infallible minority darlings like American Indian Sherman Alexie and Puerto Rican Junot Diaz have had their careers perhaps irreparably damaged by #metoo witchhunt accusations.

    The standard wisdom is that whenever a vacuum is unnaturally created in some industry, demand will cause alternatives to pop up. But will some underground literary-fiction p.c.-free zone emerge in the near future? I’m not so sure. It’s funny, when asked why men aren’t reading anymore, the progressive gatekeepers tend to cite inherent gender differences–“Men are more attracted to non-fiction because men are more interested in the real world, whereas women have more creative, empathetic minds, blah, blah, blah.” In large part, men stopped reading literary fiction because of the dearth of literary fiction that speaks to men.

    Add to all of this the fact that fewer people are reading books because technological advances have created countless informational/entertainment rivals, and the future looks pretty grim. But, whatever, gotta focus on the positive, right? Plays are still staged and it’s not at all uncommon to see a turntable in someone’s home. There will always be novel-readers. Within the several hundred million residents of this country alone, the tiny percentage that still reads quality fiction is a LOT of people. You are absolutely correct when you say that the other genres published by the big houses–crime/detective/thriller/espionage–are less bound by SJW tyranny, and self-publishing has never been more legitimate. COULD you pen politically-incorrect fiction and sell it to a loyal audience under-the-radar on Amazon with print-on-demand and electronic formats?

    Yep.

    Plus you have a million bucks? Put a portion of that into gold, and go for it. Better yet, set up a publishing house that prints not only your books but also other authors who have been orphaned during this Great Purge. Come back here and include a link in a comment. I’ll be your first customer.

  72. @SFG
    @JimDandy

    I disagree with none of what you said, though when it comes to the political faddishness of the New York publishing world I suspect this has always been the case. My question is--how would one work around it? I've noticed a lot of pulp writers seem to be a lot less PC.

    (I am working my way through a bunch of romantic mysteries written by a lady who appears to be a Christian with seven kids on a farm--though for all we know she is a transgendered incel in Philadelphia--and some of the things she says... That and, well, I'm reading Milo Yiannopoulos' Forbidden Thoughts anthology and keep thinking, I could do better than this!)

    ((I've hoarded a little over a million and still have about a 35-year life expectancy, 40 if I can make myself eat veggies. I was thinking of making a go of it...))

    (((Not gonna go alt-right though for the obvious reasons.)))

    Replies: @JimDandy, @WriterAnon

    The easiest way is to self publish on ADP or use a small press, which is essentially also self publishing. You don’t have the marketing power of the big five or the satisfaction of having people consider you a”real” author, but it’s also nice because the income is much more reliable and your royalties per unit are about an order of magnitude higher.

    There is a lot of money on the ground right now for a literary agent who represents big standard pulp commercial fiction like Tom Clancy or Robert Jordan or whoever because when you go on Query Teacher or PM, there are only a very small handful of old senior agents who even accept those submissions and generally they are too busy servicing their existing cash cow clients to take on new scribblers. A big problem is that most literary agents now are females with a strong financial support from their husbands or fathers or trust fund who do it almost as a hobby and aren’t interested in representing people who will cost them social cachet even if it makes them a pile of money.

    For all the DIE stuff flying around the presses, the clone like homogeneity of the NYC agents is remarkable, and darkly amusing.

    • Agree: JimDandy
  73. @Kronos
    @Supply and Demand

    At this rate the toxicity of white males will force the government to quarantine them a series of islands.

    I call dips on the half-finished subway sandwich!

    https://youtu.be/2Lxqzem01IU

    Replies: @botazefa

    I call dips

    Uh…

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @botazefa

    Yeah I should’ve proof-read that post. I can assure you I don’t typically reuse other people’s dip, or at least most of the time.

  74. @Desiderius
    @JimDandy

    Mother Nature abhors nothing so much as a vacuum and there is nothing quite so vacuous as men addicted to passive voice.

    You invite your own domination and destruction by advertising, nay wallowing in, your impotent weakness.

    Replies: @JimDandy

    Your own word choices add up to a rather perverse, nay, juvenile and creepy voice, imo, but you do you, boo. There is nothing inherently weak or impotent about accurately articulating a problem/obstacle. Successful strategies are dependent on clear-eyed assessments.

  75. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Buffalo Joe

    We went through this on the Gavin Newsom thread, but it's unlikely Harris's replacement will be black. Blacks just aren't plentiful, rich or influential enough in California politics to make this kind of demand on Newsom, a man with his eyes on even higher office than the governorship of California.

    In a comment on the other thread, I suggested that Newsom would look to a rich Democratic donor who checks off at least one of the favored minority boxes. Someone like David Geffen. (Under normal circumstances, Willie Brown would be the obvious choice, but there's no percentage for Newsom in angering the incoming Vice President. Particularly if she were to become President.)

    If Newsom has competent political advisers, at least one of them should have suggested approaching Geffen, ostensibly to "pick his brain" about possible Senate selections, and then have the Governor pop the question: "David, you could save me a lot of time and trouble if you would agree to serve as a caretaker Senator until the seat is up for election in 2022." Knowing Geffen's penchant for both privacy (ever seen the hedges that surround his Beverly Hills home?) and informality (hard to imagine him in a suit and tie every day on the Senate floor), he would almost certainly demur. But he would be pleased that Newsom paid him the respect of making the offer before giving it to some workaday politician. He'd dine out on it for weeks, if not months. ("Warren, guess who stopped by on Sunday for brunch? And guess what he wanted." With Geffen, the "Warren" could be Buffett, or Beatty.)

    And when Newsom needs someone to head up the finance arm of the "Newsom for President 2028" exploratory committee, who better than David Geffen?

    Replies: @Neuday, @Bill Jones, @Ed

    And when Newsom needs someone to head up the finance arm of the “Newsom for President 2028” exploratory committee, who better than David Geffen?

    David Geffen turns 78 in February. In 2028 he’ll be 85.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
    @Neuday

    I'm sure the physicians at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA, and at the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, are all exceptionally attentive to the state of Mr. Geffen's health.

  76. “Anderson’s works, which if I could assign a single meaning to I’d say represent a sort of collective dreamscape for smart, sensitive, talented white boys rejoicing in this amazing Earth and all that is of interest in it- is the sort of primordial ooze out of which every once in a while an Elon Musk is made.”

    Go ahead, say it: Faustian Man.

  77. @JackOH
    @syonredux

    syon--, thanks.

    What's profoundly sad is that White "supremacy" amounts to a deeply flawed Euro-American people that has a track record of beating the brains out of one another (Thirty Years War, 1914-1945 War, etc.), and also creating immense prosperity for masses of people, many of whom are not Euro-American, through ways of thinking and social organization unavailable to other peoples. The "sad" part is that political hustlers refuse to recognize the Euro-American "talent package" is a combo deal.

    By contrast, what has Black supremacy offered to either Whites or Blacks, or anyone else anywhere?

    Replies: @Curle, @Whiskey

    “ what has Black supremacy offered to either Whites or Blacks, or anyone else anywhere?”

    All that stuff you attributed to whites in the prior paragraph. I just checked a draft history book to be published in 2040.

  78. “These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.”

    It’s been said over and over, over the last 100 years, but since it doesn’t seem to sink in, it bears repeating. The only way to make everyone “equal” is to drag down and destroy the higher, not elevate the lower.

    Stage One is replacing white actors with POC’s, in the same roles or even remaking entire films. Same with commercials, paintings, etc. NASA propelled by sassy black females mathematicians, for example.

    As some have noticed, things are moving faster now. Stage Two is removing such films, etc. and replacing them with entirely POC content. Films entirely “black” in spirit, sort of like big budget “blaxploitation.” As long as the technology holds up without its white operators, of course. Think of steel drum bands repurposing oil cans, garishly retooled taxis, music with retarded back-beats (reggae), and other colorful Third World adaptations (Kaufmann!) of Western culture.

    • Replies: @Ray P
    @Peter D. Bredon

    William Gibson already went there with his mid-eighties vision of the future Neuromancer wherein he depicted Rastafarians living in (and maintaining) an orbital space-station.

  79. @Inquiring Mind
    @syonredux

    Eyes Wide Shut? Didn't see it, but from the description and the trailers, it was something I just plain didn't "get." I have a feeling a lot of people didn't get it.

    With the NXIVM scandal/courtroom drama, if we still don't get Eyes Wide Shut, we by now have an inkling of what it was about.

    NXIVM, I guess, is a sex cult combined with some kind of EST-like (remember when EST was a thing?) self-improvement/leadership training/life coach sort of arrangement.

    But it appears that Caligula-esque social behavior is a "thing" with at least some of the top-out-of-sight ultra rich? I really cannot picture Warren Buffet, the man from Omaha who has his wife count out the change for him to eat breakfast and hold court with fellow old-persons at McDonald's, but still.

    A couple other fiction works that people didn't quite catch on to are Orwell's 1984 and Terry Gilliam's "Brazil."

    Animal Farm, heh, is as obvious as a C. S. Lewis allegory. It really hits you over the head with a clue bat that the lead pigs are Stalin and Trotsky. 1984, OK, we get it, a totalitarian socialist state and the entire world parceled out among 3 such states, but totalitarian socialism in England? Some say 1984 is a disguised 1948, and with strict rationing extending post WW-II, it appeared it was headed that way to some.

    Brazil, on the other hand, has nothing to do with England, it is about Brazil, or some goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American locale, right? It is about England, not some fictitious England but a satire on modern-day England, Brazil is the name of the Big Band-era song that was the recurrent theme music in the movie, also evocative that England has turned into a goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American-like country.

    I figured this out when there was a wave of car jackers preying on Florida tourists driving rental cars, it seems that multiple instances of British tourists came to violent harm or ended up dead, and the Brits put out an advisory "don't travel to Florida, USA."

    Then Governor Lawton Chiles then responded, "Oh yeah, what about those IRA terrorists blowing stuff up in England?" The IRA bombings weren't strictly confined to Ulster, the IRA had a "strategic bombing campaign" against the English homeland, too, but the British did what they could to cover this up. The movie "In the Name of the Father" also came out, about a Northern Irish guy on the fringes of society who gets set up by the IRA as a patsy and his dad, actor Tom Postlethwaite gets framed for a notorious, deadly bombing in a pub in England.

    So a number of movies that people don't "get" are actually a bit ahead of their time.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Curle, @Dennis Dale

    Eyes Wide Shut? Didn’t see it, but from the description and the trailers, it was something I just plain didn’t “get.” I have a feeling a lot of people didn’t get it.

    I “got” the picture. It was dull and lifeless.

    Good books/films stay good with repeated viewings; great books/films get better/gain in interest with additional viewings. I’ve watched EYES WIDE SHUT a half dozen times, and it gets worse with each viewing.

    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @syonredux

    You didn't like it and you watched it six times?

    Was this a case of hope over experience, or is was this a real-life version of masochism depicted in the movie?

    Sometimes inflicted pain elicits arousal, and sometimes it just plain hurts without any payoff?

    Replies: @syonredux

  80. Not a big fan of Anderson, a lot of SWPL stuff is about signalling (status). so they tend to find funny things that are not really funny, but more to be “in the club”. It’s the same with Woody Allen, only for New Yorkers. But Woody Allen was funnier (emphasis on WAS – a long time ago).

    Hotel Budapest is OK, not great; his other movies are worse. Great soundtracks, though.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Dumbo

    The entire appeal of Doonesbury was based on that.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Dumbo


    so they tend to find funny things that are not really funny, but more to be “in the club”. It’s the same with Woody Allen, only for New Yorkers.
     
    I saw Sleeper in a packed theater not far from an upstate teacher's college. Only one person laughed at the Albert Shanker joke, albeit quite loudly. I'm sure many in the crowd recognized the name.

    It was certainly inside baseball.

    I saw it again years later, on video at a school in Finland. The locals loved it, but I had to help clarify this scene:


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VV2N4KSh3x4

    It would be fascinating to see how that was translated into various languages, and how Google Translate would bring it back to us.

  81. @syonredux
    @Inquiring Mind


    Eyes Wide Shut? Didn’t see it, but from the description and the trailers, it was something I just plain didn’t “get.” I have a feeling a lot of people didn’t get it.
     
    I "got" the picture. It was dull and lifeless.

    Good books/films stay good with repeated viewings; great books/films get better/gain in interest with additional viewings. I've watched EYES WIDE SHUT a half dozen times, and it gets worse with each viewing.

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind

    You didn’t like it and you watched it six times?

    Was this a case of hope over experience, or is was this a real-life version of masochism depicted in the movie?

    Sometimes inflicted pain elicits arousal, and sometimes it just plain hurts without any payoff?

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Inquiring Mind


    You didn’t like it and you watched it six times?

    Was this a case of hope over experience, or is was this a real-life version of masochism depicted in the movie?
     
    Kubrick is one of my favorite directors, and I decided that I would try my best to find something artistically significant in EYES.

    For the curious, my ranking of Kubrick's films would go:

    Top tier: 2001, DR STRANGELOVE, CLOCKWORK ORANGE, BARRY LYNDON

    Middle Tier: THE SHINING, FULL METAL JACKET, THE KILLING (very enjoyable John Huston pastiche), PATHS OF GLORY

    bottom tier: LOLITA and EYES WIDE SHUT

    Not included in the rankings: SPARTACUS (Kubrick in director-for-hire mode), FEAR AND DESIRE (Haven't seen it), KILLER'S KISS (Haven't seen it).
  82. I tried reading Antkind and I did not get very far. Not my cup of tea. And I absolutely loved Adaptation. I really thought it was one of the most clever films ever made. Being John Malkovich was also excellent.

    I think that which makes you a great screenwriter does not necessarily translate into novelistic talent (and vice versa – Billy Wilder thought that F. Scott Fitzgerald sucked as a screenwriter.) Filmmaking is a highly collaborative art and the screenwriter sits fairly low in the Hollywood hierarchy. By the time your vision makes it to the screen, it has passed thru many hands and most of the wrinkles have been ironed out and the holes mended, etc. If you have gone off the rails at some point, there are going to be tons of people (and not just a book editor who can give you advice but who is not really your boss) who will not be at all shy to tell you and who will either order you to take another track or else will take it out of your hands if you don’t. There is too much money at stake to allow a screenwriter to drive the whole enterprise into the abyss.

    A novelist on the other hand is the master of his own manuscript. It’s just him and a keyboard. Kaufman is the kind of guy whose brain runs at a mile a minute. He is just full of ideas and he (seemingly) puts them all down on the page in Antkind. And he has no director to throttle him back as he charges full speed ahead.

    I really think this has nothing to do with the times that we live in or the fact that older white [yes even Jewish] guys are now deeply unfashionable and should step aside in favor of younger, blacker voices in the Current Year. This book would have have been an equally mixed bag even 10 or 20 years ago.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Jack D


    Filmmaking is a highly collaborative art and the screenwriter sits fairly low in the Hollywood hierarchy. By the time your vision makes it to the screen, it has passed thru many hands
     
    Right, that is why if you want to ensure the integrity of your artistic vision, better to be a writer-director or, better yet, a writer-director-actor.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dEJznNiJB5M

    Replies: @Abe

    , @utu
    @Jack D

    "...one of the most clever films ever made..." - Kaufman is very clever. Makes you think of Georges Perec who also was very clever.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Perec
    Perec's most famous novel La Vie mode d'emploi (Life: A User's Manual) was published in 1978. Its title page describes it as "novels", in the plural, the reasons for which become apparent on reading. La Vie mode d'emploi is a tapestry of interwoven stories and ideas as well as literary and historical allusions, based on the lives of the inhabitants of a fictitious Parisian apartment block. It was written according to a complex plan of writing constraints, and is primarily constructed from several elements, each adding a layer of complexity. The 99 chapters of his 600-page novel move like a knight's tour of a chessboard around the room plan of the building, describing the rooms and stairwell and telling the stories of the inhabitants. At the end, it is revealed that the whole book actually takes place in a single moment, with a final twist that is an example of "cosmic irony". It was translated into English by David Bellos in 1987.

    Perec is noted for his constrained writing. His 300-page novel La disparition (1969) is a lipogram, written with natural sentence structure and correct grammar, but using only words that do not contain the letter "e". It has been translated into English by Gilbert Adair under the title A Void (1994). His novella Les revenentes (1972) is a complementary univocalic piece in which the letter "e" is the only vowel used. This constraint affects even the title, which would conventionally be spelt Revenantes. An English translation by Ian Monk was published in 1996 as The Exeter Text: Jewels, Secrets, Sex in the collection Three. It has been remarked by Jacques Roubaud that these two novels draw words from two disjoint sets of the French language, and that a third novel would be possible, made from the words not used so far (those containing both "e" and a vowel other than "e").
     
    Being clever is not enough to produce a work of art. Kaufman and Perec are very Jewish in trying to show: "Look, I am so much smarter than you are" who go by the motions to demonstrate how smart they are. But their cleverness can be reduced to simple mathematical or logical formula. It is all about form and how well they can navigate within it by adding additional constraints. There is no depth. Art is not about the artist and not about mathematical formula. Perhaps the word would be better off if Kaufman and Perec went into math or computer programming devising clever algorithms.

    Kaufman and Perec made me think of M. C. Escher. Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Jack D

  83. @Anonymouz
    I recall the fawning review of ‘The Corrections’ by a young female columnist in my local paper. She was completely dismissive of Franzen when reviewing his second novel. It was like she was plugging her nose while reading it. I thought, she is obviously going with the cultural flow. I was embarrassed for her. So shallow and fickle. If nothing else, it’s fascinating to witness this phenomenon.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @James O'Meara

    “Sophomore” books, movies or albums (do they still exist?) are generally trashed by critics, even by the same critics who praised the first work. Although everyone knows reflex, critics still engage in it as if it proves their “independence” as opposed to being a mere flack re-writing press releases. There’s also an element of sadism, punishing the writer etc. for his initial success. And and to communicate the “we made you we can break you” attitude.

    I suppose there’s other examples but the paradigm case for me is Colin Wilson, whose first book, The Outsider, was greeted with wild praise, making him famous and a tabloid headliner, supposedly one of the “Angry Young Men,” so that his second book, Religion and the Rebel, was slagged by everyone, including the very same critics, who claimed he was a fraud who must have “fooled” them the first time. Basically, mere jealousy over his success; also, as Wilson was impolite enough to point out, British “intellectuals” hate ideas, so they were embarrassed to have promoted someone who “must have been a pseude.” This attitude persisted, right up to his recent obituaries, at least in the UK. Pricks.

    For all its flaws, The Outsider is indeed a remarkable performance for a yoot of 24; the second is in fact better, The only valid criticism one might have, in retrospect, is that in fact his books in the “Outsider Cycle” became BETTER over time, so the sequence is more like reading Wilson publicly working out his ideas; you only need to read the last one.

    Religion and the Rebel only recently came back into print, and I reviewed it here:

    https://counter-currents.com/2018/02/neville-and-the-rebel-part-1/

    Wilson seems to have had the last laugh: famous, reasonably well off, happily married, well into his 80s, in The Angry Years he has the pleasant task of surveying all his rivals — Amis, Osborne, etc. — and dispassionately detailing how they all, every last one, wound up some combination of written out, forgotten, alcoholic, impotent, closeted homosexual, etc.

  84. @JimB
    @anon


    There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs’. The media better start telling the world about them or we are going to tear/burn America down once we coronate Kamala-lot as our queen.
     
    Or at least tell the truth about Jeff Bezos building his internet retail empire on not paying any taxes, an idea he got from Redd Foxx.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    “Or at least tell the truth about Jeff Bezos building his internet retail empire on not paying any taxes, an idea he got from Redd Foxx.”

    You’d think that the people who whine about “America was built on the stolen labor of black slaves” would complain about businesses built on the backs of taxpayers, but while blacks and Jews (reparations from companies that “profited” from the Holocaust) are sacred, being tax donkeys is what White people are FOR.

    • Replies: @JimB
    @James O'Meara

    Thank you for unpacking the meaning of my quip. :)

  85. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    “Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White….”

    From what we can see, but wait another 8 days, and we’ll see….

  86. anon[344] • Disclaimer says:

    I looked up that Jonze guy because his name sounded ao odd and it wow. I’m guessing it’s odd because he wanted to be his old man and not judged to be a success die to his royal generational connections.

    The first thing I noticed was the Sophia Coppola connection which, of course, has its own multi-generational family greatness. But, looking deeper I came across his great-great-grandfather. This guy:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Spiegel

  87. @syonredux

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    I've noticed that the Woke crowd at my uni have a strong dislike for the work of Stanley Kubrick.....

    Replies: @JimDandy, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @syonredux, @anon, @Dennis Dale

    Generation safespace aint gonna like the guy famous for requesting that an automoton they open the pod bay doors.

    Indoors Forever!

  88. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    Black Monolith, White Star-Child…Ebony and Ivory.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @anonymous

    Alright, I seem to be the only one- judging from old discussions- who considers the Star-child scene idiotic.

    We are to believe that the guy was transformed into some kind of star-god who has will & paraphysical powers. And this is- a star. With a developed fetus inside (at least, that's how we know that this transformed guy has become humanoid super-physical star).

    Can you get more nonsensical than that?

    Stars are just stars. There is nothing within, or around them, that is remotely human, or "alive" (any form of life imaginable included). Stars have no will, intelligence, identity, power, ... nothing.

    I get that Kubrick/Clarke wanted that guy undergo transformation into a god-like supra-physical being transcending ordinary 3+1 universe. I understand their intention & accept it. But: a) this is not supra-physical existence, Star-child being some extremely weird star in physical universe, b) fetal phase is ultimately comical, c) they should present some kind of god-like being our guy has become outside of space-time & acting on it from beyond & "above", d) the fetal stuff makes it all hilarious. He should have become a hyper- humanoid being with traces of humanity, but, basically- a god beyond space-time.

    So, this legendary scene is, in my view, completely botched. They failed, but the public & reviewers were just transfixed by unexpectedness, so they uncritically accepted this anti-climax as the climax.

    Replies: @syonredux

  89. @Polistra
    Thanks to overpopulation and mismanagement, South Africa is now facing droughts just like elsewhere in Africa. But they have a solution! Dimming the Sun. No, really.

    https://nypost.com/2020/11/26/south-africa-considers-dimming-the-sun-to-avoid-running-out-of-water/

    Fortunately for this brilliant scheme, there are no air currents in the stratosphere.

    Replies: @Rob McX

    Should work out great. Now we know what all those black scientists we’ve seen in ads down through the years were up to – a top secret project to dim the sun.

  90. @Neuday
    @Gary in Gramercy


    And when Newsom needs someone to head up the finance arm of the “Newsom for President 2028” exploratory committee, who better than David Geffen?
     
    David Geffen turns 78 in February. In 2028 he'll be 85.

    Replies: @Gary in Gramercy

    I’m sure the physicians at the David Geffen School of Medicine at UCLA, and at the Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center, are all exceptionally attentive to the state of Mr. Geffen’s health.

  91. @Inquiring Mind
    @syonredux

    Eyes Wide Shut? Didn't see it, but from the description and the trailers, it was something I just plain didn't "get." I have a feeling a lot of people didn't get it.

    With the NXIVM scandal/courtroom drama, if we still don't get Eyes Wide Shut, we by now have an inkling of what it was about.

    NXIVM, I guess, is a sex cult combined with some kind of EST-like (remember when EST was a thing?) self-improvement/leadership training/life coach sort of arrangement.

    But it appears that Caligula-esque social behavior is a "thing" with at least some of the top-out-of-sight ultra rich? I really cannot picture Warren Buffet, the man from Omaha who has his wife count out the change for him to eat breakfast and hold court with fellow old-persons at McDonald's, but still.

    A couple other fiction works that people didn't quite catch on to are Orwell's 1984 and Terry Gilliam's "Brazil."

    Animal Farm, heh, is as obvious as a C. S. Lewis allegory. It really hits you over the head with a clue bat that the lead pigs are Stalin and Trotsky. 1984, OK, we get it, a totalitarian socialist state and the entire world parceled out among 3 such states, but totalitarian socialism in England? Some say 1984 is a disguised 1948, and with strict rationing extending post WW-II, it appeared it was headed that way to some.

    Brazil, on the other hand, has nothing to do with England, it is about Brazil, or some goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American locale, right? It is about England, not some fictitious England but a satire on modern-day England, Brazil is the name of the Big Band-era song that was the recurrent theme music in the movie, also evocative that England has turned into a goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American-like country.

    I figured this out when there was a wave of car jackers preying on Florida tourists driving rental cars, it seems that multiple instances of British tourists came to violent harm or ended up dead, and the Brits put out an advisory "don't travel to Florida, USA."

    Then Governor Lawton Chiles then responded, "Oh yeah, what about those IRA terrorists blowing stuff up in England?" The IRA bombings weren't strictly confined to Ulster, the IRA had a "strategic bombing campaign" against the English homeland, too, but the British did what they could to cover this up. The movie "In the Name of the Father" also came out, about a Northern Irish guy on the fringes of society who gets set up by the IRA as a patsy and his dad, actor Tom Postlethwaite gets framed for a notorious, deadly bombing in a pub in England.

    So a number of movies that people don't "get" are actually a bit ahead of their time.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Curle, @Dennis Dale

    Eyes Wide Shut is about elites entering suicide pacts.

  92. @anon
    There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs'. The media better start telling the world about them or we are going to tear/burn America down once we coronate Kamala-lot as our queen.

    Replies: @JimB, @tyrone, @Anonymous, @Neoconned

    “There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs’”…….name one .

  93. @Whiskey
    @Twinkie

    Which is likely to be black guys. See all the advertising. White women fantasy.

    The status difference alone is huge.

    Replies: @Twinkie, @Servant of Gla'aki

    Which is likely to be black guys.

    I’m sorry, but that’s just not true. Rich White women marry rich men. Race may be almost irrelevant in the equation…but most rich American men are White. Especially the ones that tend to be ensconced within the social circles of rich White women.

    Getting impregnated (marriage is rarely a part of the package) by random Negro criminal-types, is a privilege reserved for the daughters of the working & middle classes. Our elite take care of their own.

    • Replies: @Whiskey
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    Well, that must be why the Kardashian clan is broke and no one ever heard of them.

    I personally have seen many professional women with kids by black baby daddies. Marriage increasingly is for the uber elite and celebs, Asian immigrants.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @Curle
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    But in UK it’s completely different, or can be. Below, that’s Kate Rothschild and her lover Jay Electronica, a rapper.




    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/17/article-2727430-13FE882B000005DC-144_306x594.jpg

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Harry Baldwin

  94. @Jack D
    I tried reading Antkind and I did not get very far. Not my cup of tea. And I absolutely loved Adaptation. I really thought it was one of the most clever films ever made. Being John Malkovich was also excellent.

    I think that which makes you a great screenwriter does not necessarily translate into novelistic talent (and vice versa - Billy Wilder thought that F. Scott Fitzgerald sucked as a screenwriter.) Filmmaking is a highly collaborative art and the screenwriter sits fairly low in the Hollywood hierarchy. By the time your vision makes it to the screen, it has passed thru many hands and most of the wrinkles have been ironed out and the holes mended, etc. If you have gone off the rails at some point, there are going to be tons of people (and not just a book editor who can give you advice but who is not really your boss) who will not be at all shy to tell you and who will either order you to take another track or else will take it out of your hands if you don't. There is too much money at stake to allow a screenwriter to drive the whole enterprise into the abyss.

    A novelist on the other hand is the master of his own manuscript. It's just him and a keyboard. Kaufman is the kind of guy whose brain runs at a mile a minute. He is just full of ideas and he (seemingly) puts them all down on the page in Antkind. And he has no director to throttle him back as he charges full speed ahead.

    I really think this has nothing to do with the times that we live in or the fact that older white [yes even Jewish] guys are now deeply unfashionable and should step aside in favor of younger, blacker voices in the Current Year. This book would have have been an equally mixed bag even 10 or 20 years ago.

    Replies: @Abe, @utu

    Filmmaking is a highly collaborative art and the screenwriter sits fairly low in the Hollywood hierarchy. By the time your vision makes it to the screen, it has passed thru many hands

    Right, that is why if you want to ensure the integrity of your artistic vision, better to be a writer-director or, better yet, a writer-director-actor.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Abe

    Grrr... flippin’ UTUBE messed up my punchline by auto-forwarding to a ‘related’ video when I wasn’t looking...

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c33edykpCBA

  95. @Abe
    @Jack D


    Filmmaking is a highly collaborative art and the screenwriter sits fairly low in the Hollywood hierarchy. By the time your vision makes it to the screen, it has passed thru many hands
     
    Right, that is why if you want to ensure the integrity of your artistic vision, better to be a writer-director or, better yet, a writer-director-actor.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dEJznNiJB5M

    Replies: @Abe

    Grrr… flippin’ UTUBE messed up my punchline by auto-forwarding to a ‘related’ video when I wasn’t looking…

  96. @Polistra
    @Steve Sailer

    Past a certain point, baseball stats are interesting only to nerdy jews and George Will. That is, people who could never really play the game.

    Replies: @James O'Meara

    When growing up in Detroit in the 60s/70s, while there was some interest in the Tigers when winning the pennant and such, it was largely taken for granted that anyone interested in baseball — talking about it, going to “the game”, hanging out at Lindell’s AC in hopes of seeing a player, listening to Ernie Harwell on a transistor radio — was a retard, usually wearing white socks, green highwater pants and a plaid shirt, all from Sears.

    It wasn’t until moving away that I gradually realized there were places where “normal” people were interested in spectator sports, and were even considered “cool.” Funny world.

  97. @botazefa
    @Kronos


    I call dips
     
    Uh...

    Replies: @Kronos

    Yeah I should’ve proof-read that post. I can assure you I don’t typically reuse other people’s dip, or at least most of the time.

    • LOL: botazefa
  98. @syonredux

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    I've noticed that the Woke crowd at my uni have a strong dislike for the work of Stanley Kubrick.....

    Replies: @JimDandy, @ADL Pyramid of Hate, @syonredux, @anon, @Dennis Dale

    Of course they do. His whole thing is cool detachment. Like silence, detachment is violence to the movement. Kubrick is the last guy that would give them the sentimental kitsch they crave.

    The reason Eyes Wide Shut is such an unremittingly bad movie (it is) is because he tried–late–to take on the least detached of subjects: desire, jealousy, sexual humiliation. Forget the conspiracy-theorists take on the movie; the theme speaks to the psychologically hidden, not some Illuminati silliness.

    The conspiracy theorists, in my mind, have not rescued the film by re-purposing it. Maybe the millennial zombies of the future will. My guess is it, like Kubrick, will be long forgotten in a short time.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Dennis Dale


    Of course they do. His whole thing is cool detachment. Like silence, detachment is violence to the movement. Kubrick is the last guy that would give them the sentimental kitsch they crave.
     
    Agreed.

    The reason Eyes Wide Shut is such an unremittingly bad movie (it is) is because he tried–late–to take on the least detached of subjects: desire, jealousy, sexual humiliation. Forget the conspiracy-theorists take on the movie; the theme speaks to the psychologically hidden, not some Illuminati silliness.
     
    I kinda liked it. It is very Kubrickian. Approaching such subject matter in the Kubrick manner was, I thought, rather interesting. But Kubrick's detachment has always alienated a lot of people, which is fair enough. I liked Barry Lyndon as well, which a lot of people hated.

    Kubrick had a tendency not to make the movies that people would have preferred him to make.

    Maybe it relates a lot to Steve's other recent post about differing taste in movies. You either have the personality type to like Kubrick movies or you don't. And you either have the personality type to like Eyes Wide Shut or you don't.

    Replies: @utu

    , @Ben tillman
    @Dennis Dale

    Yggdrasil was a huge fan of Kubrick, and of course Strangelove and Clockwork were the movies he spent the most time discussing. Paths of Glory is outstanding as well.

  99. @al gore rhythms
    @dfordoom

    "In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism"

    But then, it's not really Kubrick's Jewishness that's the problem, it's the cast's whiteness. If Kubrick had been making the film today he would just have cast non-whites in all the main roles and there wouldn't have been a problem.

    I've never heard of a Woke complaint that there are too many Jewish film directors.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Unladen Swallow, @Herp McDerp

    I’ve never heard of a Woke complaint that there are too many Jewish film directors.

    There are not too many of them. Producers, screenwriters….yes, but top directors- no. Even in Anglosphere only.

  100. @anon
    There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs'. The media better start telling the world about them or we are going to tear/burn America down once we coronate Kamala-lot as our queen.

    Replies: @JimB, @tyrone, @Anonymous, @Neoconned

    Most of em be in da pen tho.

  101. @Jack D
    I tried reading Antkind and I did not get very far. Not my cup of tea. And I absolutely loved Adaptation. I really thought it was one of the most clever films ever made. Being John Malkovich was also excellent.

    I think that which makes you a great screenwriter does not necessarily translate into novelistic talent (and vice versa - Billy Wilder thought that F. Scott Fitzgerald sucked as a screenwriter.) Filmmaking is a highly collaborative art and the screenwriter sits fairly low in the Hollywood hierarchy. By the time your vision makes it to the screen, it has passed thru many hands and most of the wrinkles have been ironed out and the holes mended, etc. If you have gone off the rails at some point, there are going to be tons of people (and not just a book editor who can give you advice but who is not really your boss) who will not be at all shy to tell you and who will either order you to take another track or else will take it out of your hands if you don't. There is too much money at stake to allow a screenwriter to drive the whole enterprise into the abyss.

    A novelist on the other hand is the master of his own manuscript. It's just him and a keyboard. Kaufman is the kind of guy whose brain runs at a mile a minute. He is just full of ideas and he (seemingly) puts them all down on the page in Antkind. And he has no director to throttle him back as he charges full speed ahead.

    I really think this has nothing to do with the times that we live in or the fact that older white [yes even Jewish] guys are now deeply unfashionable and should step aside in favor of younger, blacker voices in the Current Year. This book would have have been an equally mixed bag even 10 or 20 years ago.

    Replies: @Abe, @utu

    “…one of the most clever films ever made…” – Kaufman is very clever. Makes you think of Georges Perec who also was very clever.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Perec
    Perec’s most famous novel La Vie mode d’emploi (Life: A User’s Manual) was published in 1978. Its title page describes it as “novels”, in the plural, the reasons for which become apparent on reading. La Vie mode d’emploi is a tapestry of interwoven stories and ideas as well as literary and historical allusions, based on the lives of the inhabitants of a fictitious Parisian apartment block. It was written according to a complex plan of writing constraints, and is primarily constructed from several elements, each adding a layer of complexity. The 99 chapters of his 600-page novel move like a knight’s tour of a chessboard around the room plan of the building, describing the rooms and stairwell and telling the stories of the inhabitants. At the end, it is revealed that the whole book actually takes place in a single moment, with a final twist that is an example of “cosmic irony”. It was translated into English by David Bellos in 1987.

    Perec is noted for his constrained writing. His 300-page novel La disparition (1969) is a lipogram, written with natural sentence structure and correct grammar, but using only words that do not contain the letter “e”. It has been translated into English by Gilbert Adair under the title A Void (1994). His novella Les revenentes (1972) is a complementary univocalic piece in which the letter “e” is the only vowel used. This constraint affects even the title, which would conventionally be spelt Revenantes. An English translation by Ian Monk was published in 1996 as The Exeter Text: Jewels, Secrets, Sex in the collection Three. It has been remarked by Jacques Roubaud that these two novels draw words from two disjoint sets of the French language, and that a third novel would be possible, made from the words not used so far (those containing both “e” and a vowel other than “e”).

    Being clever is not enough to produce a work of art. Kaufman and Perec are very Jewish in trying to show: “Look, I am so much smarter than you are” who go by the motions to demonstrate how smart they are. But their cleverness can be reduced to simple mathematical or logical formula. It is all about form and how well they can navigate within it by adding additional constraints. There is no depth. Art is not about the artist and not about mathematical formula. Perhaps the word would be better off if Kaufman and Perec went into math or computer programming devising clever algorithms.

    Kaufman and Perec made me think of M. C. Escher. Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @utu

    Kaufman and Perec made me think of M. C. Escher. Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?

    Is it art compared to what? Is it Vermeer? No, not as good. Is it Basquiat? No, much better.

    , @Jack D
    @utu


    Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?
     
    I think the Germans have it right. In German, Kunst means art but it also means skill or craft. They are really all the same thing. The test is (or should be) "Is this something that a untrained layman, without any training or natural gift (e.g. me), could create on his own?" If it is, then it's not art. By that measure, much of modern art fails (and therefore is not art) but Escher does not, not by a long shot. Conversely, defining commercial art (e.g. Rockwell) or even craft work (an elaborately carved bannister) as not art is just snooty - if it requires high skill or craftsmanship then it is art even if the high priests of culture look down upon it.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @utu

  102. @syonredux
    @SFG

    Of course, D&D is now Woke AF:


    A Wondrous People

    Whenever you find yourself in a bustling city, you're likely to spot a wonderful variety of folk. You hear words in languages utterly foreign to you, and you smell dishes both delectable and strange. Waterdeep is the ultimate city of such delights, and before long, the alien thing becomes familiar to you, and the stranger becomes your friend.
     


    The people of Waterdeep are among the greatest of its splendors. Fashion, comportment, love-these things are practiced with an art and a zest in the city uncommon elsewhere. Visit a festhall or festival and see for yourself! And don't miss the cross-dressing performers who regale audiences with humor and song. Fabulous-that word doesn't begin to describe it, especially when they enhance the merriment with magic.
     

    The city is also a haven for those who define for themselves what it means to be a man or a woman, those who transcend gender as the gods do, and those who redefine entirely who they are. What confidence! I never tire of witnessing it. I have seen folk in Waterdeep whose lives are more magical than the marvels possible with spells.
     
    https://geekdad.com/2018/10/waterdeep-dragon-heist-go-hunting-treasure-on-your-next-dd-5th-edition-campaign/


    https://www.sarahdarkmagic.com/sites/www.sarahdarkmagic.com/files/images/VajraSafahr.preview.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8f/0c/ca/8f0cca079c3c17ed1661e0bcc21fdc75.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SFG, @SOL, @Ray P, @Percy Gryce

    Nice pseudo-halo.

  103. @anonymous
    @syonredux

    Black Monolith, White Star-Child...Ebony and Ivory.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    Alright, I seem to be the only one- judging from old discussions- who considers the Star-child scene idiotic.

    We are to believe that the guy was transformed into some kind of star-god who has will & paraphysical powers. And this is- a star. With a developed fetus inside (at least, that’s how we know that this transformed guy has become humanoid super-physical star).

    Can you get more nonsensical than that?

    Stars are just stars. There is nothing within, or around them, that is remotely human, or “alive” (any form of life imaginable included). Stars have no will, intelligence, identity, power, … nothing.

    I get that Kubrick/Clarke wanted that guy undergo transformation into a god-like supra-physical being transcending ordinary 3+1 universe. I understand their intention & accept it. But: a) this is not supra-physical existence, Star-child being some extremely weird star in physical universe, b) fetal phase is ultimately comical, c) they should present some kind of god-like being our guy has become outside of space-time & acting on it from beyond & “above”, d) the fetal stuff makes it all hilarious. He should have become a hyper- humanoid being with traces of humanity, but, basically- a god beyond space-time.

    So, this legendary scene is, in my view, completely botched. They failed, but the public & reviewers were just transfixed by unexpectedness, so they uncritically accepted this anti-climax as the climax.

    • Agree: utu
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Given the film's use of Strauss' Also sprach Zarathustra, I've always assumed that the Star-Child was supposed to evoke the Child in Nietzsche's "Three Metamorphoses".

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

  104. @anon
    There are plenty of black Elon Musks, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, and Steve Jobs'. The media better start telling the world about them or we are going to tear/burn America down once we coronate Kamala-lot as our queen.

    Replies: @JimB, @tyrone, @Anonymous, @Neoconned

    Read the other day Musk is now worth 100 billion $$$$ USD…..

    I actually asked around at work and i doordash so im on the road 7 days a week….

    How is he worth 100 billion dollars when i can count 2 Teslas literally in a 50 mile radius….

    I see Ford’s and Toyotas and Nissan’s in every 3rd or 4th driveway…..how is Tesla worth more than say Toyota….when max within 100 miles i can count the Teslas on both hands…..are the spooks floating Musk thru shell corporations?

    PUsing Fed money pumping schemes to have Musk privatize NASA or something?

    • Replies: @Curle
    @Neoconned

    I see them all the time and I don’t have to travel farther than my local grocery.

  105. @al gore rhythms
    @dfordoom

    "In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism"

    But then, it's not really Kubrick's Jewishness that's the problem, it's the cast's whiteness. If Kubrick had been making the film today he would just have cast non-whites in all the main roles and there wouldn't have been a problem.

    I've never heard of a Woke complaint that there are too many Jewish film directors.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Unladen Swallow, @Herp McDerp

    I don’t know if he would do that, Kubrick never felt much need to conform to Hollywood dictates, that’s why he moved to London in the early 1960’s and stayed there. Pretty sure most astronauts are white, even today. I just saw a piece ( woke of course ) in the NYT complaining that the black astronaut that just went up to the International Space Station on the latest SpaceX flight will be the first one that is staying there for an extended mission, the rest were on the Shuttle for only brief visits.

  106. @Kronos
    @Buffalo Joe

    I’m with David Cole on this one. The Hispanics and Asians will have none of it. They sure won’t go for the LBGT crowd either. Any California Black Senator will be a leverage point for BLM/Antifa and nobody’s in the mood for a David Dinkin’s type right now.

    https://www.takimag.com/article/california-secedes-from-black-america/

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Kronos, we will see. There is something toxic in California water.

    • Agree: Kronos
  107. @Polistra
    @Twinkie

    Well that was a remarkably stupid post. One example disproves his point? Where he said likely?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Well that was a remarkably stupid post. One example disproves his point? Where he said likely?

    Well, he provided zero example, so you should go hurl personal insults at him.

    I can give you more examples. But try a search engine. Many of these prominent Woke women are married to pale males, including… Kamala Harris.

  108. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Twinkie

    Do you think AOC makes him use the affirmative consent app or is she the romantic type that uses the old-fashioned Oberlin consent form?

    Replies: @Twinkie

    Do you think AOC makes him use the affirmative consent app or is she the romantic type that uses the old-fashioned Oberlin consent form?

    Neither, so that when things go south, she can cry rape and tout herself as a victim of an oppressive white patriarchy.

  109. @Dumbo
    Not a big fan of Anderson, a lot of SWPL stuff is about signalling (status). so they tend to find funny things that are not really funny, but more to be "in the club". It's the same with Woody Allen, only for New Yorkers. But Woody Allen was funnier (emphasis on WAS - a long time ago).

    Hotel Budapest is OK, not great; his other movies are worse. Great soundtracks, though.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Reg Cæsar

    The entire appeal of Doonesbury was based on that.

  110. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Buffalo Joe

    We went through this on the Gavin Newsom thread, but it's unlikely Harris's replacement will be black. Blacks just aren't plentiful, rich or influential enough in California politics to make this kind of demand on Newsom, a man with his eyes on even higher office than the governorship of California.

    In a comment on the other thread, I suggested that Newsom would look to a rich Democratic donor who checks off at least one of the favored minority boxes. Someone like David Geffen. (Under normal circumstances, Willie Brown would be the obvious choice, but there's no percentage for Newsom in angering the incoming Vice President. Particularly if she were to become President.)

    If Newsom has competent political advisers, at least one of them should have suggested approaching Geffen, ostensibly to "pick his brain" about possible Senate selections, and then have the Governor pop the question: "David, you could save me a lot of time and trouble if you would agree to serve as a caretaker Senator until the seat is up for election in 2022." Knowing Geffen's penchant for both privacy (ever seen the hedges that surround his Beverly Hills home?) and informality (hard to imagine him in a suit and tie every day on the Senate floor), he would almost certainly demur. But he would be pleased that Newsom paid him the respect of making the offer before giving it to some workaday politician. He'd dine out on it for weeks, if not months. ("Warren, guess who stopped by on Sunday for brunch? And guess what he wanted." With Geffen, the "Warren" could be Buffett, or Beatty.)

    And when Newsom needs someone to head up the finance arm of the "Newsom for President 2028" exploratory committee, who better than David Geffen?

    Replies: @Neuday, @Bill Jones, @Ed

    Beautifully plausible.

    btw, Didn’t I see you once in Gramercy? I used to live there. Park that is…

  111. @Dumbo
    Not a big fan of Anderson, a lot of SWPL stuff is about signalling (status). so they tend to find funny things that are not really funny, but more to be "in the club". It's the same with Woody Allen, only for New Yorkers. But Woody Allen was funnier (emphasis on WAS - a long time ago).

    Hotel Budapest is OK, not great; his other movies are worse. Great soundtracks, though.

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Reg Cæsar

    so they tend to find funny things that are not really funny, but more to be “in the club”. It’s the same with Woody Allen, only for New Yorkers.

    I saw Sleeper in a packed theater not far from an upstate teacher’s college. Only one person laughed at the Albert Shanker joke, albeit quite loudly. I’m sure many in the crowd recognized the name.

    It was certainly inside baseball.

    I saw it again years later, on video at a school in Finland. The locals loved it, but I had to help clarify this scene:

    It would be fascinating to see how that was translated into various languages, and how Google Translate would bring it back to us.

  112. @Dennis Dale
    @syonredux

    Of course they do. His whole thing is cool detachment. Like silence, detachment is violence to the movement. Kubrick is the last guy that would give them the sentimental kitsch they crave.

    The reason Eyes Wide Shut is such an unremittingly bad movie (it is) is because he tried--late--to take on the least detached of subjects: desire, jealousy, sexual humiliation. Forget the conspiracy-theorists take on the movie; the theme speaks to the psychologically hidden, not some Illuminati silliness.

    The conspiracy theorists, in my mind, have not rescued the film by re-purposing it. Maybe the millennial zombies of the future will. My guess is it, like Kubrick, will be long forgotten in a short time.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Ben tillman

    Of course they do. His whole thing is cool detachment. Like silence, detachment is violence to the movement. Kubrick is the last guy that would give them the sentimental kitsch they crave.

    Agreed.

    The reason Eyes Wide Shut is such an unremittingly bad movie (it is) is because he tried–late–to take on the least detached of subjects: desire, jealousy, sexual humiliation. Forget the conspiracy-theorists take on the movie; the theme speaks to the psychologically hidden, not some Illuminati silliness.

    I kinda liked it. It is very Kubrickian. Approaching such subject matter in the Kubrick manner was, I thought, rather interesting. But Kubrick’s detachment has always alienated a lot of people, which is fair enough. I liked Barry Lyndon as well, which a lot of people hated.

    Kubrick had a tendency not to make the movies that people would have preferred him to make.

    Maybe it relates a lot to Steve’s other recent post about differing taste in movies. You either have the personality type to like Kubrick movies or you don’t. And you either have the personality type to like Eyes Wide Shut or you don’t.

    • Replies: @utu
    @dfordoom

    Barry Lyndon is his best film. There is a chain of cinematic influence: Miklós Jancsó’s “The Red and the White” (1967) -->Ritts’s Sounder (1972)-->Malick’s Badlands (1973)-->Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon (1975)

    Replies: @syonredux, @Art Deco

  113. @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Whiskey


    Which is likely to be black guys.
     
    I'm sorry, but that's just not true. Rich White women marry rich men. Race may be almost irrelevant in the equation...but most rich American men are White. Especially the ones that tend to be ensconced within the social circles of rich White women.

    Getting impregnated (marriage is rarely a part of the package) by random Negro criminal-types, is a privilege reserved for the daughters of the working & middle classes. Our elite take care of their own.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Curle

    Well, that must be why the Kardashian clan is broke and no one ever heard of them.

    I personally have seen many professional women with kids by black baby daddies. Marriage increasingly is for the uber elite and celebs, Asian immigrants.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Whiskey


    I personally have seen many professional women with kids by black baby daddies.
     
    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/02/16/business/economy/economix-17interracial/economix-17interracial-blog480.jpg

    Replies: @Captain Tripps, @SFG

  114. @JackOH
    @syonredux

    syon--, thanks.

    What's profoundly sad is that White "supremacy" amounts to a deeply flawed Euro-American people that has a track record of beating the brains out of one another (Thirty Years War, 1914-1945 War, etc.), and also creating immense prosperity for masses of people, many of whom are not Euro-American, through ways of thinking and social organization unavailable to other peoples. The "sad" part is that political hustlers refuse to recognize the Euro-American "talent package" is a combo deal.

    By contrast, what has Black supremacy offered to either Whites or Blacks, or anyone else anywhere?

    Replies: @Curle, @Whiskey

    Black supremacy offers many things White women go nuts for: twerking, violence, thuggery, crunk, purple drank, drugs in general. And a complete lack of male nerdiness and intelligence which is innate repellent to women.

    It offers nothing to White men but we don’t count and never have.

    • Thanks: JackOH
    • Replies: @WriterAnon
    @Whiskey

    You have grave misunderstandings about white mens SMV. A huwhite guy in our current "salad bowl" cosmopolitan society is a luxury brand for women, ironically strengthened by the DIE drumbeat that we are all scheming, wealthy, callous, racist, hyperpredators that destroy and oppress people basically from the moment of birth. For the vast majority of women, this is a very attractive feature mix: MENA women (sans Jews), latin American women, and Asian women especially break hard toward white men when it comes to their mate selection, which has been shown empirically many times.

    White women are less affected by this and at least on the surface decry it, but it is telling that they have the lowest rate out out-breeding of any female group besides black women (who in addition to being fanatically attracted to black men, are generally so undesirable to all races that there is not competition for them which may have driven down their loyalty.)

    The top frats, the makeup of the most elite nightlife and social circle parties in terms of quality of females bedded breaks overwhelmingly toward white men, with dark blacks being forced out even more than they were twenty years ago by the continuing arrival of handsome, masculine MENA men and the occasional jacked and charismatic asian, usually Korean or Chinese. Increasing diversity continues to increase the value of the White Male brand sexually as proportionally it becomes more scarce and more sought after by status signaling newly arrived women.

    Perhaps you have been out of the game too long, Whiskey. The trends I observe in person every day are diametrically opposed to what you state. As a wealthy white guy who just turned thirty in a major city, the problem isn't getting mogged by blacks (which not only have I never experienced, but have never even seen happening despite being in the thick of the free-fire college and young professional sexual market place for more than a decade), the problem is that in a regular month you literally cannot bed all the high quality women who engage with you and try to honeypot you into long term commitment often enough to keep them from getting discouraged and dropping out.

    White men are spinning so many plates and burning through so many high quality women that me and many of my friends worry more about the long term impairment to our own pair formation abilities than anything else. I'm starting to doubt the old PUA theory that oxytocin suppression and loss of pair bonding ability proportional to body count is a exclusively female phenomenon. Women I would have fallen completely and permanently in love with ten years ago are now just bed warmers for a couple nights and I wonder and worry if the damage and ennui can be reversed. Not a good situation, taken as a whole, but the exact opposite of what you describe. Its a symptom of far too much power, not a symptom of powerlessness.

    Maybe that is just for young, handsome, wealthy guys. I don't know your situation it is possible you are not any of those and have a different experience.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @SFG

    , @Dennis Dale
    @Whiskey

    Oh Whiskey, one thinks you would tire of this shit, right or wrong. Life is too short, friend.

  115. @Bardon Kaldian
    @anonymous

    Alright, I seem to be the only one- judging from old discussions- who considers the Star-child scene idiotic.

    We are to believe that the guy was transformed into some kind of star-god who has will & paraphysical powers. And this is- a star. With a developed fetus inside (at least, that's how we know that this transformed guy has become humanoid super-physical star).

    Can you get more nonsensical than that?

    Stars are just stars. There is nothing within, or around them, that is remotely human, or "alive" (any form of life imaginable included). Stars have no will, intelligence, identity, power, ... nothing.

    I get that Kubrick/Clarke wanted that guy undergo transformation into a god-like supra-physical being transcending ordinary 3+1 universe. I understand their intention & accept it. But: a) this is not supra-physical existence, Star-child being some extremely weird star in physical universe, b) fetal phase is ultimately comical, c) they should present some kind of god-like being our guy has become outside of space-time & acting on it from beyond & "above", d) the fetal stuff makes it all hilarious. He should have become a hyper- humanoid being with traces of humanity, but, basically- a god beyond space-time.

    So, this legendary scene is, in my view, completely botched. They failed, but the public & reviewers were just transfixed by unexpectedness, so they uncritically accepted this anti-climax as the climax.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Given the film’s use of Strauss’ Also sprach Zarathustra, I’ve always assumed that the Star-Child was supposed to evoke the Child in Nietzsche’s “Three Metamorphoses”.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @syonredux

    This is an interesting idea, but 2001 is packed with so many ideas that it not very convincing that Kubrick/Clarke would have stuck with that motif from Thus spake, while ignoring others (the eternal recurrence, Ubermensch (who is still a man),..). Actually, the spirit of 2001 is, generally, contrary & completely different from Zarathustra: while Zarathustra teaches to remain faithful to the earth, Kubrick would dispensed with it altogether; while Zarathustra's world-view is uneasily anthropocentric, Kubrick/Clarke's is cosmic in a sci fi sense; while Zarathustra is oblivious to technology, Kubrick is all about it.

    Finally, while Kubrick/Clarke are shallow optimists (man has a great future in store of him, being transformed into a god-like super-human), Nietzsche is a profound pessimist (since human destiny has no deeper meaning & relevance -anything technological is irrelevant, because Nietzsche was an apocalyptic aesthete- the whole human life is tragedy, or worse- nihilist abyss).

    And yet, Kubrick could have (mis)used these motifs for his own purpose.

    Replies: @syonredux

  116. @dfordoom
    @Dennis Dale


    Of course they do. His whole thing is cool detachment. Like silence, detachment is violence to the movement. Kubrick is the last guy that would give them the sentimental kitsch they crave.
     
    Agreed.

    The reason Eyes Wide Shut is such an unremittingly bad movie (it is) is because he tried–late–to take on the least detached of subjects: desire, jealousy, sexual humiliation. Forget the conspiracy-theorists take on the movie; the theme speaks to the psychologically hidden, not some Illuminati silliness.
     
    I kinda liked it. It is very Kubrickian. Approaching such subject matter in the Kubrick manner was, I thought, rather interesting. But Kubrick's detachment has always alienated a lot of people, which is fair enough. I liked Barry Lyndon as well, which a lot of people hated.

    Kubrick had a tendency not to make the movies that people would have preferred him to make.

    Maybe it relates a lot to Steve's other recent post about differing taste in movies. You either have the personality type to like Kubrick movies or you don't. And you either have the personality type to like Eyes Wide Shut or you don't.

    Replies: @utu

    Barry Lyndon is his best film. There is a chain of cinematic influence: Miklós Jancsó’s “The Red and the White” (1967) –>Ritts’s Sounder (1972)–>Malick’s Badlands (1973)–>Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon (1975)

    • Agree: Yevardian
    • Replies: @syonredux
    @utu

    BARRY LYNDON is my personal favorite. I've lost track of the number of times I've seen it all the way through (30-40 times? Maybe more). It's a beautiful film, perhaps the greatest historical movie ever made.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLZU3_XNMo

    Replies: @Single malt, @Cato

    , @Art Deco
    @utu

    Barry Lyndon is his best film.

    LOL. Barry Lyndon was interminable and soporific.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

  117. @Inquiring Mind
    @syonredux

    You didn't like it and you watched it six times?

    Was this a case of hope over experience, or is was this a real-life version of masochism depicted in the movie?

    Sometimes inflicted pain elicits arousal, and sometimes it just plain hurts without any payoff?

    Replies: @syonredux

    You didn’t like it and you watched it six times?

    Was this a case of hope over experience, or is was this a real-life version of masochism depicted in the movie?

    Kubrick is one of my favorite directors, and I decided that I would try my best to find something artistically significant in EYES.

    For the curious, my ranking of Kubrick’s films would go:

    Top tier: 2001, DR STRANGELOVE, CLOCKWORK ORANGE, BARRY LYNDON

    Middle Tier: THE SHINING, FULL METAL JACKET, THE KILLING (very enjoyable John Huston pastiche), PATHS OF GLORY

    bottom tier: LOLITA and EYES WIDE SHUT

    Not included in the rankings: SPARTACUS (Kubrick in director-for-hire mode), FEAR AND DESIRE (Haven’t seen it), KILLER’S KISS (Haven’t seen it).

  118. @utu
    @dfordoom

    Barry Lyndon is his best film. There is a chain of cinematic influence: Miklós Jancsó’s “The Red and the White” (1967) -->Ritts’s Sounder (1972)-->Malick’s Badlands (1973)-->Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon (1975)

    Replies: @syonredux, @Art Deco

    BARRY LYNDON is my personal favorite. I’ve lost track of the number of times I’ve seen it all the way through (30-40 times? Maybe more). It’s a beautiful film, perhaps the greatest historical movie ever made.

    • Replies: @Single malt
    @syonredux

    Barry Lyndon is a wonderfully beautiful movie. I saw it at a theatre in Winnipeg; there was an audible, albeit faint, gasp from the audience when a panoramic shot of the English countryside—remarkably pristine and unspoiled by industrial pollution—came on the screen. Another scene conveyed the pastoral quietude of the 18th century of the German countryside, where the deserter Barry found refuge.

    Kubrick invented a lens, so I read, to film interior scenes of a posh drawing room illuminated only by candle light. The film is a great aesthetic achievement.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @MEH 0910

    , @Cato
    @syonredux

    I agree, Barry Lyndon, was a great novel by Thackeray, but an even better film by Kubrick. I saw it only twice, but I still remember it, all these years later, which is the achievement always sought by an artist: make this work stick in the minds of those who view it.

  119. @syonredux
    @utu

    BARRY LYNDON is my personal favorite. I've lost track of the number of times I've seen it all the way through (30-40 times? Maybe more). It's a beautiful film, perhaps the greatest historical movie ever made.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLZU3_XNMo

    Replies: @Single malt, @Cato

    Barry Lyndon is a wonderfully beautiful movie. I saw it at a theatre in Winnipeg; there was an audible, albeit faint, gasp from the audience when a panoramic shot of the English countryside—remarkably pristine and unspoiled by industrial pollution—came on the screen. Another scene conveyed the pastoral quietude of the 18th century of the German countryside, where the deserter Barry found refuge.

    Kubrick invented a lens, so I read, to film interior scenes of a posh drawing room illuminated only by candle light. The film is a great aesthetic achievement.

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    @Single malt


    Kubrick invented a lens, so I read, to film interior scenes of a posh drawing room illuminated only by candle light. The film is a great aesthetic achievement.
     
    Zeiss designed and manufactured a 50mm f/ 0.7 camera lens for NASA for their unmanned lunar program. A limited number were made, and Stanley Kubrick got hold of a couple of them and adapted them to film cameras to achieve the effect he wanted. By comparison, the brightest commercially available 50mm camera at the time was a Canon 50mm f /0.95 lens.

    Kubrick did ask for an unusually long zoom lens to be developed for the movie project, a 24-480mm zoom lens, which was (and is) an extraordinarily long zoom range. That lens was assembled by a specialty firm with components from Angenieux, which is, like Zeiss, a European lens maker.

    http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/sk/ac/len/page1.htm

    https://i.imgur.com/HJ2jj98.jpg

    https://youtu.be/3r159V4Wmls

    Replies: @Single malt

    , @MEH 0910
    @Single malt

    How Kubrick Achieved the Beautiful Cinematography of Barry Lyndon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOLZMr52Wcc


    MORE HERE: Lenses at the Kubrick Exhibit in San Francisco - http://bit.ly/2wt5wPX

    Stanley Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon is often lauded as one of the greatest achievements in the history of cinematography. And in a decade or even a year with some of the toughest competition you can think of, Barry Lyndon always seems to stick out just a little bit more. But what sets the cinematography of Barry Lyndon apart from other movies? And how was it done?
     

    Replies: @Single malt

  120. @syonredux
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Given the film's use of Strauss' Also sprach Zarathustra, I've always assumed that the Star-Child was supposed to evoke the Child in Nietzsche's "Three Metamorphoses".

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian

    This is an interesting idea, but 2001 is packed with so many ideas that it not very convincing that Kubrick/Clarke would have stuck with that motif from Thus spake, while ignoring others (the eternal recurrence, Ubermensch (who is still a man),..). Actually, the spirit of 2001 is, generally, contrary & completely different from Zarathustra: while Zarathustra teaches to remain faithful to the earth, Kubrick would dispensed with it altogether; while Zarathustra’s world-view is uneasily anthropocentric, Kubrick/Clarke’s is cosmic in a sci fi sense; while Zarathustra is oblivious to technology, Kubrick is all about it.

    Finally, while Kubrick/Clarke are shallow optimists (man has a great future in store of him, being transformed into a god-like super-human), Nietzsche is a profound pessimist (since human destiny has no deeper meaning & relevance -anything technological is irrelevant, because Nietzsche was an apocalyptic aesthete- the whole human life is tragedy, or worse- nihilist abyss).

    And yet, Kubrick could have (mis)used these motifs for his own purpose.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Bardon Kaldian


    but 2001 is packed with so many ideas that it not very convincing that Kubrick/Clarke would have stuck with that motif from Thus spake, while ignoring others (the eternal recurrence, Ubermensch (who is still a man),..).
     
    Why not? As you noted, the film employs a wide range of cultural references (David Bowman as Ulysses, etc). Hence, it makes perfect sense that Kubrick would selectively employ an image that resonates with the film's score.

    And yet, Kubrick could have (mis)used these motifs for his own purpose.
     
    Could you imagine how terrible the film would have been if Kubrick had not adapted imagery and themes for his own use? An authentic cinematic depiction of Nietzsche's philosophy would have been an exercise in pure tedium.....
  121. @Dennis Dale
    @syonredux

    Of course they do. His whole thing is cool detachment. Like silence, detachment is violence to the movement. Kubrick is the last guy that would give them the sentimental kitsch they crave.

    The reason Eyes Wide Shut is such an unremittingly bad movie (it is) is because he tried--late--to take on the least detached of subjects: desire, jealousy, sexual humiliation. Forget the conspiracy-theorists take on the movie; the theme speaks to the psychologically hidden, not some Illuminati silliness.

    The conspiracy theorists, in my mind, have not rescued the film by re-purposing it. Maybe the millennial zombies of the future will. My guess is it, like Kubrick, will be long forgotten in a short time.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Ben tillman

    Yggdrasil was a huge fan of Kubrick, and of course Strangelove and Clockwork were the movies he spent the most time discussing. Paths of Glory is outstanding as well.

  122. @Servant of Gla'aki
    @Whiskey


    Which is likely to be black guys.
     
    I'm sorry, but that's just not true. Rich White women marry rich men. Race may be almost irrelevant in the equation...but most rich American men are White. Especially the ones that tend to be ensconced within the social circles of rich White women.

    Getting impregnated (marriage is rarely a part of the package) by random Negro criminal-types, is a privilege reserved for the daughters of the working & middle classes. Our elite take care of their own.

    Replies: @Whiskey, @Curle

    But in UK it’s completely different, or can be. Below, that’s Kate Rothschild and her lover Jay Electronica, a rapper.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Curle

    How the once mighty have fallen!

    , @Harry Baldwin
    @Curle

    The current state of Western civilization is depicted in that one snapshot. At the same time, it's hard not to laugh.

  123. @Neoconned
    @anon

    Read the other day Musk is now worth 100 billion $$$$ USD.....

    I actually asked around at work and i doordash so im on the road 7 days a week....

    How is he worth 100 billion dollars when i can count 2 Teslas literally in a 50 mile radius....

    I see Ford's and Toyotas and Nissan's in every 3rd or 4th driveway.....how is Tesla worth more than say Toyota....when max within 100 miles i can count the Teslas on both hands.....are the spooks floating Musk thru shell corporations?

    PUsing Fed money pumping schemes to have Musk privatize NASA or something?

    Replies: @Curle

    I see them all the time and I don’t have to travel farther than my local grocery.

  124. @International Jew
    @Hypnotoad666

    My favorite Franzen novel too, and spot on about the wife.

    I liked Walter, but wherever he finds himself now, I'll bet he's sold out to wokeness.

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666

    I liked Walter, but wherever he finds himself now, I’ll bet he’s sold out to wokeness.

    Yes, Walter was a cuck. R.I.P.

  125. @Reg Cæsar
    @JimDandy

    Uh, Jim, didn't you recognize "Plug Butters" as our old friend? Perhaps the lack of typos this time was deceiving.




    https://i.imgur.com/AUiacrz.png


    The Duckie and the Anal Plug
    A global tour of contemporary public art



    https://i.etsystatic.com/10090510/d/il/014e33/1998383925/il_340x270.1998383925_56rn.jpg?version=0

    Replies: @Kronos, @clyde

    lol…One of the most bizarre posts ever at UNZ.

  126. @Curle
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    But in UK it’s completely different, or can be. Below, that’s Kate Rothschild and her lover Jay Electronica, a rapper.




    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/17/article-2727430-13FE882B000005DC-144_306x594.jpg

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Harry Baldwin

    How the once mighty have fallen!

  127. @James O'Meara
    @JimB

    "Or at least tell the truth about Jeff Bezos building his internet retail empire on not paying any taxes, an idea he got from Redd Foxx."

    You'd think that the people who whine about "America was built on the stolen labor of black slaves" would complain about businesses built on the backs of taxpayers, but while blacks and Jews (reparations from companies that "profited" from the Holocaust) are sacred, being tax donkeys is what White people are FOR.

    Replies: @JimB

    Thank you for unpacking the meaning of my quip. 🙂

  128. If you watch a movie and you like it, and it continues to please you upon further rumination, it doesn’t make you like it any less when someone else insists, “it’s an unremittingly bad movie (it is).” It just makes you wonder why that person feels the need to insult your judgment.

    I don’t feel the need to browbeat others about the fact that they liked something that I didn’t. What’s the point? Why would I try to change their mind? Why should their enjoyment make me angry? What would make me so sure they weren’t seeing something of value in it, though I couldn’t?

  129. @utu
    @Jack D

    "...one of the most clever films ever made..." - Kaufman is very clever. Makes you think of Georges Perec who also was very clever.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Perec
    Perec's most famous novel La Vie mode d'emploi (Life: A User's Manual) was published in 1978. Its title page describes it as "novels", in the plural, the reasons for which become apparent on reading. La Vie mode d'emploi is a tapestry of interwoven stories and ideas as well as literary and historical allusions, based on the lives of the inhabitants of a fictitious Parisian apartment block. It was written according to a complex plan of writing constraints, and is primarily constructed from several elements, each adding a layer of complexity. The 99 chapters of his 600-page novel move like a knight's tour of a chessboard around the room plan of the building, describing the rooms and stairwell and telling the stories of the inhabitants. At the end, it is revealed that the whole book actually takes place in a single moment, with a final twist that is an example of "cosmic irony". It was translated into English by David Bellos in 1987.

    Perec is noted for his constrained writing. His 300-page novel La disparition (1969) is a lipogram, written with natural sentence structure and correct grammar, but using only words that do not contain the letter "e". It has been translated into English by Gilbert Adair under the title A Void (1994). His novella Les revenentes (1972) is a complementary univocalic piece in which the letter "e" is the only vowel used. This constraint affects even the title, which would conventionally be spelt Revenantes. An English translation by Ian Monk was published in 1996 as The Exeter Text: Jewels, Secrets, Sex in the collection Three. It has been remarked by Jacques Roubaud that these two novels draw words from two disjoint sets of the French language, and that a third novel would be possible, made from the words not used so far (those containing both "e" and a vowel other than "e").
     
    Being clever is not enough to produce a work of art. Kaufman and Perec are very Jewish in trying to show: "Look, I am so much smarter than you are" who go by the motions to demonstrate how smart they are. But their cleverness can be reduced to simple mathematical or logical formula. It is all about form and how well they can navigate within it by adding additional constraints. There is no depth. Art is not about the artist and not about mathematical formula. Perhaps the word would be better off if Kaufman and Perec went into math or computer programming devising clever algorithms.

    Kaufman and Perec made me think of M. C. Escher. Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Jack D

    Kaufman and Perec made me think of M. C. Escher. Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?

    Is it art compared to what? Is it Vermeer? No, not as good. Is it Basquiat? No, much better.

  130. @Single malt
    @syonredux

    Barry Lyndon is a wonderfully beautiful movie. I saw it at a theatre in Winnipeg; there was an audible, albeit faint, gasp from the audience when a panoramic shot of the English countryside—remarkably pristine and unspoiled by industrial pollution—came on the screen. Another scene conveyed the pastoral quietude of the 18th century of the German countryside, where the deserter Barry found refuge.

    Kubrick invented a lens, so I read, to film interior scenes of a posh drawing room illuminated only by candle light. The film is a great aesthetic achievement.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @MEH 0910

    Kubrick invented a lens, so I read, to film interior scenes of a posh drawing room illuminated only by candle light. The film is a great aesthetic achievement.

    Zeiss designed and manufactured a 50mm f/ 0.7 camera lens for NASA for their unmanned lunar program. A limited number were made, and Stanley Kubrick got hold of a couple of them and adapted them to film cameras to achieve the effect he wanted. By comparison, the brightest commercially available 50mm camera at the time was a Canon 50mm f /0.95 lens.

    Kubrick did ask for an unusually long zoom lens to be developed for the movie project, a 24-480mm zoom lens, which was (and is) an extraordinarily long zoom range. That lens was assembled by a specialty firm with components from Angenieux, which is, like Zeiss, a European lens maker.

    http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/sk/ac/len/page1.htm

    • Replies: @Single malt
    @PiltdownMan

    Thanks!

  131. @al gore rhythms
    @dfordoom

    "In our Brave New Woke World it seems that being Jewish is no longer a protection against accusations of white supremacism"

    But then, it's not really Kubrick's Jewishness that's the problem, it's the cast's whiteness. If Kubrick had been making the film today he would just have cast non-whites in all the main roles and there wouldn't have been a problem.

    I've never heard of a Woke complaint that there are too many Jewish film directors.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Unladen Swallow, @Herp McDerp

    If Kubrick had been making the film today he would just have cast non-whites in all the main roles and there wouldn’t have been a problem.

    But Kubrick made 2001 in England in the mid-1960s, and there weren’t very many Actors of Color in Britain back then. The British government had a rule that a certain percentage of the actors in British films had to be British. So what could Kubrick have done? (This is the reason, by the way, that so many of the Empire’s spear carriers in Star Wars spoke with British accents.)

  132. @Anonymous

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    This may be part of it, but a bigger reason is generational.

    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson were/are popular with Generation X white guys. Millenial and younger white guys find them to be cringe-y and embarrassing. The younger tastes are in reaction to Boomerism and Gen X dweebiness, hence the preference for more hard edged, hard right stuff and aesthetics on the young Right, and more militant leftism and old school Marxism on the young Left.

    Replies: @SFG, @Dennis Dale, @Bardon Kaldian, @jamie b., @Peter Akuleyev, @Kratoklastes

    David Foster Wallace was a jock (star tennis player) and a lothario. Definitely not a dweeb. More like a combo of a “Joey”/“Chandler” than a “Ross”. He was definitely part of that 90s grunge self-pity culture though.

  133. @Gary in Gramercy
    @Buffalo Joe

    We went through this on the Gavin Newsom thread, but it's unlikely Harris's replacement will be black. Blacks just aren't plentiful, rich or influential enough in California politics to make this kind of demand on Newsom, a man with his eyes on even higher office than the governorship of California.

    In a comment on the other thread, I suggested that Newsom would look to a rich Democratic donor who checks off at least one of the favored minority boxes. Someone like David Geffen. (Under normal circumstances, Willie Brown would be the obvious choice, but there's no percentage for Newsom in angering the incoming Vice President. Particularly if she were to become President.)

    If Newsom has competent political advisers, at least one of them should have suggested approaching Geffen, ostensibly to "pick his brain" about possible Senate selections, and then have the Governor pop the question: "David, you could save me a lot of time and trouble if you would agree to serve as a caretaker Senator until the seat is up for election in 2022." Knowing Geffen's penchant for both privacy (ever seen the hedges that surround his Beverly Hills home?) and informality (hard to imagine him in a suit and tie every day on the Senate floor), he would almost certainly demur. But he would be pleased that Newsom paid him the respect of making the offer before giving it to some workaday politician. He'd dine out on it for weeks, if not months. ("Warren, guess who stopped by on Sunday for brunch? And guess what he wanted." With Geffen, the "Warren" could be Buffett, or Beatty.)

    And when Newsom needs someone to head up the finance arm of the "Newsom for President 2028" exploratory committee, who better than David Geffen?

    Replies: @Neuday, @Bill Jones, @Ed

    Good chance there is a primary challenge on the Dem side in ‘24. The odds of Biden making it through his first term are dwindling. Harris isn’t that popular, even among Democrats.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Ed

    It's a little too soon to be talking about '24, but Biden JUST BARELY cleared the hurdles in a lot of swing states (where down ticket more progressive Dems lost) because he was an older white guy and deemed to be more or less acceptable as a moderate figure (by Dem standards). There's no way that ultra-Leftist Kamala could convincingly run as a moderate in the general (though she would sure try by lying about her record) and win those swing states. The Dem "activist" wing would of course push hard for Kamala (we need a REAL Leftist, Leftism hasn't been tried hard enough yet, etc.) but should they succeed they would probably just be setting themselves up to lose in November.

  134. @LRFD
    Bill Simmons would have fit in here as a GenXer with a large male following (though in sports and pop culture). After many years as the premier ESPN columnist, he started a somewhat successful website, burned it to the ground by pissing off his patron, started another website, and then alienated a large portion of audience by non-stop pandering to the Woke. Simmons doesn’t regularly write anymore, probably because hardly anyone wants to read him. I think he limits his output to a few hours of podcasting a week. He will be unpersoned soon. His job is too cushy for him to remain there long without contributing anything.

    You can’t be an ally and the power behind the throne. Makes one think of a similar situation involving a senile politician with delusions of grandeur...

    Replies: @Morton's toes, @Peter Akuleyev

    alienated a large portion of audience by non-stop pandering to the Woke

    I thought you were going to make the opposite point. Simmons is exactly the sort of culturally left Gen-X white male who has not moved to full Woke as fast as the crowds demand, and is now regularly attacked on Twitter by Millennials as a “privileged white male” who is irrelevant. Recently Simmons has even started backpedaling, probably realizing he can’t win by outwoking the woke. He has started letting Ryan Rusillo make a few non-PC points on the podcast occasionally, and has started muttering about “cancel culture”, although not very loudly yet. He may yet join his buddy Carolla, although I suspect Bill is scared of his wife.

    This is exactly what Abe was talking about.

    The fact that Simmons is kind of lazy and resting on his very lucrative laurels makes it hard to feel sorry for him, but the basic point still stands.

  135. The flip side of the phenomenon that Abe is noticing is that Ernst Jünger is experiencing a revival for a reason.

  136. @JimDandy
    The very real Catch-22 that has been imposed on straight, white male novelists is: if they write books primarily about themselves and people like them, they are savaged in the manner Abe describes, but if they stock their books heavily with minority/gay/etc. character, they are attacked because they have "no right" to create those characters. Lionel Shriver has done a great job of publicly calling out this type of insidious censorship, and she hasn't been cancelled, to my knowledge. But that's probably because she's a woman.

    Replies: @njguy73, @Plug butters, @Squid, @Desiderius, @Peter Akuleyev

    For a while white men had a refuge in fantasy, science fiction and of course historical fiction. All three genres are of course now under siege, but it is pretty hard to insert strong black characters into, say, a novel about the 30 Years War, or even New Hampshire in the 1920s, without looking pretty foolish. The best white male writers will probably be writing period pieces.

  137. @utu
    @dfordoom

    Barry Lyndon is his best film. There is a chain of cinematic influence: Miklós Jancsó’s “The Red and the White” (1967) -->Ritts’s Sounder (1972)-->Malick’s Badlands (1973)-->Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon (1975)

    Replies: @syonredux, @Art Deco

    Barry Lyndon is his best film.

    LOL. Barry Lyndon was interminable and soporific.

    • Replies: @Dennis Dale
    @Art Deco

    I've got some good news for you. Sylvester Stallone's classic "Over the Top" is free on YouTube right now!

  138. @Curle
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    But in UK it’s completely different, or can be. Below, that’s Kate Rothschild and her lover Jay Electronica, a rapper.




    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/08/17/article-2727430-13FE882B000005DC-144_306x594.jpg

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Harry Baldwin

    The current state of Western civilization is depicted in that one snapshot. At the same time, it’s hard not to laugh.

  139. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    But in the movie (and the book) hominid apes get affirmative-actioned out of bestiality into humanity by mysterious and benevolent aliens (liberals-in-space) who do not demand anything in return and the same happens at the end to Bowman. If the white man is the pinnacle of evolution why does he need improvement? And tool-use was invented by an African at the start which ends with orbiting satellites.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Ray P


    And tool-use was invented by an African at the start which ends with orbiting
    satellites.
     
    Everyone was African at the Dawn of Man.....

    But in the movie (and the book) hominid apes get affirmative-actioned out of bestiality into humanity
     
    Only one tribe of hominids gets the mojo. The ones who don't get the gift are massacred....

    by mysterious and benevolent aliens (liberals-in-space) who do not demand anything in return and the same happens at the end to Bowman. If the white man is the pinnacle of evolution why does he need improvement?
     
    Europeans prove that they are worthy by being the ones who get to the Jupiter Monolith. And Bowman proves that he is worthy of ascension by being the only man (cf Ulysses) who survives the journey.
  140. @Peter D. Bredon
    "These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee."

    It's been said over and over, over the last 100 years, but since it doesn't seem to sink in, it bears repeating. The only way to make everyone "equal" is to drag down and destroy the higher, not elevate the lower.

    Stage One is replacing white actors with POC's, in the same roles or even remaking entire films. Same with commercials, paintings, etc. NASA propelled by sassy black females mathematicians, for example.

    As some have noticed, things are moving faster now. Stage Two is removing such films, etc. and replacing them with entirely POC content. Films entirely "black" in spirit, sort of like big budget "blaxploitation." As long as the technology holds up without its white operators, of course. Think of steel drum bands repurposing oil cans, garishly retooled taxis, music with retarded back-beats (reggae), and other colorful Third World adaptations (Kaufmann!) of Western culture.

    Replies: @Ray P

    William Gibson already went there with his mid-eighties vision of the future Neuromancer wherein he depicted Rastafarians living in (and maintaining) an orbital space-station.

  141. @Whiskey
    @JackOH

    Black supremacy offers many things White women go nuts for: twerking, violence, thuggery, crunk, purple drank, drugs in general. And a complete lack of male nerdiness and intelligence which is innate repellent to women.

    It offers nothing to White men but we don't count and never have.

    Replies: @WriterAnon, @Dennis Dale

    You have grave misunderstandings about white mens SMV. A huwhite guy in our current “salad bowl” cosmopolitan society is a luxury brand for women, ironically strengthened by the DIE drumbeat that we are all scheming, wealthy, callous, racist, hyperpredators that destroy and oppress people basically from the moment of birth. For the vast majority of women, this is a very attractive feature mix: MENA women (sans Jews), latin American women, and Asian women especially break hard toward white men when it comes to their mate selection, which has been shown empirically many times.

    White women are less affected by this and at least on the surface decry it, but it is telling that they have the lowest rate out out-breeding of any female group besides black women (who in addition to being fanatically attracted to black men, are generally so undesirable to all races that there is not competition for them which may have driven down their loyalty.)

    The top frats, the makeup of the most elite nightlife and social circle parties in terms of quality of females bedded breaks overwhelmingly toward white men, with dark blacks being forced out even more than they were twenty years ago by the continuing arrival of handsome, masculine MENA men and the occasional jacked and charismatic asian, usually Korean or Chinese. Increasing diversity continues to increase the value of the White Male brand sexually as proportionally it becomes more scarce and more sought after by status signaling newly arrived women.

    Perhaps you have been out of the game too long, Whiskey. The trends I observe in person every day are diametrically opposed to what you state. As a wealthy white guy who just turned thirty in a major city, the problem isn’t getting mogged by blacks (which not only have I never experienced, but have never even seen happening despite being in the thick of the free-fire college and young professional sexual market place for more than a decade), the problem is that in a regular month you literally cannot bed all the high quality women who engage with you and try to honeypot you into long term commitment often enough to keep them from getting discouraged and dropping out.

    White men are spinning so many plates and burning through so many high quality women that me and many of my friends worry more about the long term impairment to our own pair formation abilities than anything else. I’m starting to doubt the old PUA theory that oxytocin suppression and loss of pair bonding ability proportional to body count is a exclusively female phenomenon. Women I would have fallen completely and permanently in love with ten years ago are now just bed warmers for a couple nights and I wonder and worry if the damage and ennui can be reversed. Not a good situation, taken as a whole, but the exact opposite of what you describe. Its a symptom of far too much power, not a symptom of powerlessness.

    Maybe that is just for young, handsome, wealthy guys. I don’t know your situation it is possible you are not any of those and have a different experience.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @WriterAnon

    I would say reality about the success of white men in today's dating-mating game lay smack dab in the middle of Whiskey's perspective of a barren landscape and the insistence you are a snatch bandito supremo. In a nutshell, we are doing fine. More than probable, you are not as accomplished as you claim to be.

    "Women I would have fallen completely and permanently in love with ten years ago are now just bed warmers for a couple nights and I wonder and worry if the damage and ennui can be reversed".

    Of course you are able to stem the tide and do an about face. It is called willpower, Kemosabe. Perhaps you ought to employ "game" to secure a monogamous relationship and engage in coitus for the exclusive purpose of siring offspring. But you are simply making excuses to live the Don Juan lifestyle with all the trimmings. What is the end result? A bitter man in his 40’s with plenty of p-pelts on the wall, still trying to chase young tail with his favorite lines, but without the trophy wife nor prodigious progeny.

    Do you want to end up being a sexual grifter like Roissy? Keep on your current path.

    Replies: @WriterAnon

    , @SFG
    @WriterAnon

    First of all, thank you for the writing advice! We'll see what I do with it, but thanks either way. ;)

    As a warning from a somewhat older man: have fun, but remember that as you get older, your hair will thin and you will slow down. You may keep the paunch away with exercise, but eventually you will become less physically attractive. This is the human condition. I actually do believe life for a thirtysomething man in a big city is as fun as you describe, particularly if wealthy and handsome. Just remember that you will get old.

    I myself avoided marriage due to the whole spousal-support racket (and I am sure if you are wealthy you have scoped out the best ways to go about prenups and the like), and accepted a lonely death in 30-40 years as the price of not paying my hard-earned cash to some hussy clever enough to pretend to like me for a few years (and, frankly, being too lazy to deal with a screaming baby and practice the high-impact helicopter parenting common to my class). Just remember that the supply of poon will, someday, slow down, and you will find yourself chasing older and older women, more and more of whom have kids.

    By all means, have fun, and gather ye rosebuds while ye may. Just remember that after summer comes winter, and have a plan for when hair grows thin and ardor cools. Consider me the auriga in your triumph's chariot. ;)

    Minor nitpick: Jewish women may whine about white men in the pages of the NYT (which has a subscriber base of wealthy Jewish women eager to guilt their husbands), but given intermarriage rates north of 50 percent, and given the socioeconomic status of most Jews in this era, I would guess that they also have the desire for the white man.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @nebulafox

  142. @syonredux
    @SFG

    Of course, D&D is now Woke AF:


    A Wondrous People

    Whenever you find yourself in a bustling city, you're likely to spot a wonderful variety of folk. You hear words in languages utterly foreign to you, and you smell dishes both delectable and strange. Waterdeep is the ultimate city of such delights, and before long, the alien thing becomes familiar to you, and the stranger becomes your friend.
     


    The people of Waterdeep are among the greatest of its splendors. Fashion, comportment, love-these things are practiced with an art and a zest in the city uncommon elsewhere. Visit a festhall or festival and see for yourself! And don't miss the cross-dressing performers who regale audiences with humor and song. Fabulous-that word doesn't begin to describe it, especially when they enhance the merriment with magic.
     

    The city is also a haven for those who define for themselves what it means to be a man or a woman, those who transcend gender as the gods do, and those who redefine entirely who they are. What confidence! I never tire of witnessing it. I have seen folk in Waterdeep whose lives are more magical than the marvels possible with spells.
     
    https://geekdad.com/2018/10/waterdeep-dragon-heist-go-hunting-treasure-on-your-next-dd-5th-edition-campaign/


    https://www.sarahdarkmagic.com/sites/www.sarahdarkmagic.com/files/images/VajraSafahr.preview.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8f/0c/ca/8f0cca079c3c17ed1661e0bcc21fdc75.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SFG, @SOL, @Ray P, @Percy Gryce

    The First Edition of Advanced Dungeons and Dragons which was Gary Gygax’s creation featured half-orcs, half-elves and the polymorph spell which allowed any caster to assume the form of the opposite sex. “The spell does not give the other abilities” of the creature so it may be that one cannot gain the special powers of the opposite sex such as conception, pregnancy etc.

  143. @utu
    @Jack D

    "...one of the most clever films ever made..." - Kaufman is very clever. Makes you think of Georges Perec who also was very clever.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georges_Perec
    Perec's most famous novel La Vie mode d'emploi (Life: A User's Manual) was published in 1978. Its title page describes it as "novels", in the plural, the reasons for which become apparent on reading. La Vie mode d'emploi is a tapestry of interwoven stories and ideas as well as literary and historical allusions, based on the lives of the inhabitants of a fictitious Parisian apartment block. It was written according to a complex plan of writing constraints, and is primarily constructed from several elements, each adding a layer of complexity. The 99 chapters of his 600-page novel move like a knight's tour of a chessboard around the room plan of the building, describing the rooms and stairwell and telling the stories of the inhabitants. At the end, it is revealed that the whole book actually takes place in a single moment, with a final twist that is an example of "cosmic irony". It was translated into English by David Bellos in 1987.

    Perec is noted for his constrained writing. His 300-page novel La disparition (1969) is a lipogram, written with natural sentence structure and correct grammar, but using only words that do not contain the letter "e". It has been translated into English by Gilbert Adair under the title A Void (1994). His novella Les revenentes (1972) is a complementary univocalic piece in which the letter "e" is the only vowel used. This constraint affects even the title, which would conventionally be spelt Revenantes. An English translation by Ian Monk was published in 1996 as The Exeter Text: Jewels, Secrets, Sex in the collection Three. It has been remarked by Jacques Roubaud that these two novels draw words from two disjoint sets of the French language, and that a third novel would be possible, made from the words not used so far (those containing both "e" and a vowel other than "e").
     
    Being clever is not enough to produce a work of art. Kaufman and Perec are very Jewish in trying to show: "Look, I am so much smarter than you are" who go by the motions to demonstrate how smart they are. But their cleverness can be reduced to simple mathematical or logical formula. It is all about form and how well they can navigate within it by adding additional constraints. There is no depth. Art is not about the artist and not about mathematical formula. Perhaps the word would be better off if Kaufman and Perec went into math or computer programming devising clever algorithms.

    Kaufman and Perec made me think of M. C. Escher. Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @Jack D

    Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?

    I think the Germans have it right. In German, Kunst means art but it also means skill or craft. They are really all the same thing. The test is (or should be) “Is this something that a untrained layman, without any training or natural gift (e.g. me), could create on his own?” If it is, then it’s not art. By that measure, much of modern art fails (and therefore is not art) but Escher does not, not by a long shot. Conversely, defining commercial art (e.g. Rockwell) or even craft work (an elaborately carved bannister) as not art is just snooty – if it requires high skill or craftsmanship then it is art even if the high priests of culture look down upon it.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    No, this is wrong.

    Aesthetics is far from being an exact field, but it clearly distinguishes between a work of art and merely a skillful piece of work. Of course, it does not have carved in stone criteria, but it boils down to that a work of art survives the test of time, while a skillful craft, after some time, becomes for virtually all- empty, insignificant & shallow.

    That goes, for instance, for most of Vivaldi, or for Petrarch-inspired poetry.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    , @utu
    @Jack D

    On purely formal level you argue your case correctly but you miss the Fifth Element, the Quintessence that is necessary to transform the skill and the talent into an art. Perec: Designing ever more and more complex crossword puzzles does not turn you into an artist. Escher: Laying out more and more elaborate patterns of tiles does not make you an artist. Kaufman: Realizing an obvious logical conundrum that the object and the subject can't be one, that you can't put your head inside your head does not make you an artist.

    Replies: @Abe

  144. @Ed
    @Gary in Gramercy

    Good chance there is a primary challenge on the Dem side in ‘24. The odds of Biden making it through his first term are dwindling. Harris isn’t that popular, even among Democrats.

    Replies: @Jack D

    It’s a little too soon to be talking about ’24, but Biden JUST BARELY cleared the hurdles in a lot of swing states (where down ticket more progressive Dems lost) because he was an older white guy and deemed to be more or less acceptable as a moderate figure (by Dem standards). There’s no way that ultra-Leftist Kamala could convincingly run as a moderate in the general (though she would sure try by lying about her record) and win those swing states. The Dem “activist” wing would of course push hard for Kamala (we need a REAL Leftist, Leftism hasn’t been tried hard enough yet, etc.) but should they succeed they would probably just be setting themselves up to lose in November.

  145. @Bardon Kaldian
    @syonredux

    This is an interesting idea, but 2001 is packed with so many ideas that it not very convincing that Kubrick/Clarke would have stuck with that motif from Thus spake, while ignoring others (the eternal recurrence, Ubermensch (who is still a man),..). Actually, the spirit of 2001 is, generally, contrary & completely different from Zarathustra: while Zarathustra teaches to remain faithful to the earth, Kubrick would dispensed with it altogether; while Zarathustra's world-view is uneasily anthropocentric, Kubrick/Clarke's is cosmic in a sci fi sense; while Zarathustra is oblivious to technology, Kubrick is all about it.

    Finally, while Kubrick/Clarke are shallow optimists (man has a great future in store of him, being transformed into a god-like super-human), Nietzsche is a profound pessimist (since human destiny has no deeper meaning & relevance -anything technological is irrelevant, because Nietzsche was an apocalyptic aesthete- the whole human life is tragedy, or worse- nihilist abyss).

    And yet, Kubrick could have (mis)used these motifs for his own purpose.

    Replies: @syonredux

    but 2001 is packed with so many ideas that it not very convincing that Kubrick/Clarke would have stuck with that motif from Thus spake, while ignoring others (the eternal recurrence, Ubermensch (who is still a man),..).

    Why not? As you noted, the film employs a wide range of cultural references (David Bowman as Ulysses, etc). Hence, it makes perfect sense that Kubrick would selectively employ an image that resonates with the film’s score.

    And yet, Kubrick could have (mis)used these motifs for his own purpose.

    Could you imagine how terrible the film would have been if Kubrick had not adapted imagery and themes for his own use? An authentic cinematic depiction of Nietzsche’s philosophy would have been an exercise in pure tedium…..

  146. @PiltdownMan
    @Single malt


    Kubrick invented a lens, so I read, to film interior scenes of a posh drawing room illuminated only by candle light. The film is a great aesthetic achievement.
     
    Zeiss designed and manufactured a 50mm f/ 0.7 camera lens for NASA for their unmanned lunar program. A limited number were made, and Stanley Kubrick got hold of a couple of them and adapted them to film cameras to achieve the effect he wanted. By comparison, the brightest commercially available 50mm camera at the time was a Canon 50mm f /0.95 lens.

    Kubrick did ask for an unusually long zoom lens to be developed for the movie project, a 24-480mm zoom lens, which was (and is) an extraordinarily long zoom range. That lens was assembled by a specialty firm with components from Angenieux, which is, like Zeiss, a European lens maker.

    http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/sk/ac/len/page1.htm

    https://i.imgur.com/HJ2jj98.jpg

    https://youtu.be/3r159V4Wmls

    Replies: @Single malt

    Thanks!

  147. @Whiskey
    @JackOH

    Black supremacy offers many things White women go nuts for: twerking, violence, thuggery, crunk, purple drank, drugs in general. And a complete lack of male nerdiness and intelligence which is innate repellent to women.

    It offers nothing to White men but we don't count and never have.

    Replies: @WriterAnon, @Dennis Dale

    Oh Whiskey, one thinks you would tire of this shit, right or wrong. Life is too short, friend.

  148. @Inquiring Mind
    @syonredux

    Eyes Wide Shut? Didn't see it, but from the description and the trailers, it was something I just plain didn't "get." I have a feeling a lot of people didn't get it.

    With the NXIVM scandal/courtroom drama, if we still don't get Eyes Wide Shut, we by now have an inkling of what it was about.

    NXIVM, I guess, is a sex cult combined with some kind of EST-like (remember when EST was a thing?) self-improvement/leadership training/life coach sort of arrangement.

    But it appears that Caligula-esque social behavior is a "thing" with at least some of the top-out-of-sight ultra rich? I really cannot picture Warren Buffet, the man from Omaha who has his wife count out the change for him to eat breakfast and hold court with fellow old-persons at McDonald's, but still.

    A couple other fiction works that people didn't quite catch on to are Orwell's 1984 and Terry Gilliam's "Brazil."

    Animal Farm, heh, is as obvious as a C. S. Lewis allegory. It really hits you over the head with a clue bat that the lead pigs are Stalin and Trotsky. 1984, OK, we get it, a totalitarian socialist state and the entire world parceled out among 3 such states, but totalitarian socialism in England? Some say 1984 is a disguised 1948, and with strict rationing extending post WW-II, it appeared it was headed that way to some.

    Brazil, on the other hand, has nothing to do with England, it is about Brazil, or some goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American locale, right? It is about England, not some fictitious England but a satire on modern-day England, Brazil is the name of the Big Band-era song that was the recurrent theme music in the movie, also evocative that England has turned into a goofy mal-governed insurgency-ridden South American-like country.

    I figured this out when there was a wave of car jackers preying on Florida tourists driving rental cars, it seems that multiple instances of British tourists came to violent harm or ended up dead, and the Brits put out an advisory "don't travel to Florida, USA."

    Then Governor Lawton Chiles then responded, "Oh yeah, what about those IRA terrorists blowing stuff up in England?" The IRA bombings weren't strictly confined to Ulster, the IRA had a "strategic bombing campaign" against the English homeland, too, but the British did what they could to cover this up. The movie "In the Name of the Father" also came out, about a Northern Irish guy on the fringes of society who gets set up by the IRA as a patsy and his dad, actor Tom Postlethwaite gets framed for a notorious, deadly bombing in a pub in England.

    So a number of movies that people don't "get" are actually a bit ahead of their time.

    Replies: @syonredux, @Curle, @Dennis Dale

    None of those examples show what you say. People didn’t “get” 1984? Are you high?

  149. @Twinkie
    @Whiskey

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/05/05/17/10364560-6994817-B-a-84_1557072851517.jpg

    Yeah, that guy looks so black.

    Replies: @Polistra, @The Wild Geese Howard, @Abe

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and…”

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Abe

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Glut where? Almost no one anywhere majors in black studies or women's studies. Out of 1.9 million baccalaureate degrees awarded each year in this country, around 2,000 are awarded in these 'subjects'. You might add to that those studying sociology or anthropology, as these are the most troublesome of the conventional academic departments. Still, maybe 2% of all baccalaureate degrees are awarded in sociology or in anthropology. The teacher's colleges traffick in a great deal of dreck, as do schools of social work. Prestige universities commonly lack one, the other, or both.

    , @Jack D
    @Abe

    While this sounds like a good idea on paper, do we have empirical proof that fixing a sistah up with a ginger really takes the edge off? Are there examples of sistahs with white mates who are nevertheless still mischief makers? Maybe having a white mate (and later whitish children) only makes you MORE anxious to prove your black bona-fides, especially given that many of these sistas are barely (like Kamala and Princess Meghan) black to begin with?

    The other problem is that while reasonably attractive good-haired mulattas like Kamala and Meghan have no problem landing white boyfriends, many of the most troublemaking sistahs are considerably darker, frizzier and fatter than the above, not to mention having personalities like fingernails on a chalkboard. Short of roofie-ing their drinks, how are we supposed to enlist said gingers? Tell them that they should do it for their country?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Twinkie

    , @Art Deco
    @Abe

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    People who get hired in the media are paid to be articulate and turn in copy on time. They're not hired to know something, though some of them may. Have a gander at Chris Hedges, formerly of The New York Times. He has oodles of liberal education, travels the world for years on end, and yet he puts his name on tripe like this

    https://www.amazon.com/American-Fascists-Christian-Right-America/dp/0743284461

    Replies: @Abe

    , @Art Deco
    @Abe

    AOC has a ginger.

    Has had him for over a decade. # of children to date = 0

    , @John Johnson
    @Abe

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    There is a much bigger problem with beta level White women with social science degrees that think they are part of some educated elite class that only needs to stop Bad Whites to create a multi-racial utopia.

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off.

    There is a much bigger problem with the previously described beta level White women getting out of college at 27 with debt and realizing they can't just grab a handsome 6 figure White man like TEEVEE tells them.

    They become cat moms and direct their rage at the Bad Whites that their professors convinced them are the cause of all problems.

    , @Twinkie
    @Abe


    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off.
     
    Why do you hate white men so much?
    , @Neoconned
    @Abe

    I found it interesting both AOC amd the Somali chick and i think the Arab 1 too.....all have white male partners....

  150. @Abe
    @Twinkie

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and...”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @John Johnson, @Twinkie, @Neoconned

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Glut where? Almost no one anywhere majors in black studies or women’s studies. Out of 1.9 million baccalaureate degrees awarded each year in this country, around 2,000 are awarded in these ‘subjects’. You might add to that those studying sociology or anthropology, as these are the most troublesome of the conventional academic departments. Still, maybe 2% of all baccalaureate degrees are awarded in sociology or in anthropology. The teacher’s colleges traffick in a great deal of dreck, as do schools of social work. Prestige universities commonly lack one, the other, or both.

    • Troll: Charon
  151. @Abe
    @Twinkie

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and...”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @John Johnson, @Twinkie, @Neoconned

    While this sounds like a good idea on paper, do we have empirical proof that fixing a sistah up with a ginger really takes the edge off? Are there examples of sistahs with white mates who are nevertheless still mischief makers? Maybe having a white mate (and later whitish children) only makes you MORE anxious to prove your black bona-fides, especially given that many of these sistas are barely (like Kamala and Princess Meghan) black to begin with?

    The other problem is that while reasonably attractive good-haired mulattas like Kamala and Meghan have no problem landing white boyfriends, many of the most troublemaking sistahs are considerably darker, frizzier and fatter than the above, not to mention having personalities like fingernails on a chalkboard. Short of roofie-ing their drinks, how are we supposed to enlist said gingers? Tell them that they should do it for their country?

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    @Jack D

    Maybe having a white mate (and later whitish children) only makes you MORE anxious to prove your black bona-fides, especially given that many of these sistas are barely (like Kamala and Princess Meghan) black to begin with?

    I'm sure it gives them another level of liberal guilt. Why wouldn't it? They get liberal guilt over using a straw.

    They spend their days depicting White men as the enemy and then they go home and get on the Evil White Man carnival ride to take the edge off.

    I used to work with college educated White liberal women and was amazed by how duplicitous they were to their own cause.

    They would swear allegiance to liberalism and diversity but then swoon over some new White boyfriend that one of them got.

    I never saw any of them date even a light Hispanic. They also didn't date the effeminate liberal men at the office.

    Most of them *just happened* to be dating or married to kinda ahole fun loving White guys that wern't too short or too poor. The ones that didn't were grumpy for not having said White guy and seemed to be holding out for one. I have no doubt that every single one would poll as willing to date any race. You really cannot trust a single word that liberal women say when it comes to dating.

    , @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    many of the most troublemaking sistahs are considerably darker, frizzier and fatter than the above, not to mention having personalities like fingernails on a chalkboard.
     
    That sounds disturbingly like you have a low opinion of blacks. I guess I’m not the only racist here.

    “For a [Jewish] person, you are pretty racist.”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/2020-in-a-nutmeg/#comment-4280160

    Replies: @Jack D

  152. @Art Deco
    @utu

    Barry Lyndon is his best film.

    LOL. Barry Lyndon was interminable and soporific.

    Replies: @Dennis Dale

    I’ve got some good news for you. Sylvester Stallone’s classic “Over the Top” is free on YouTube right now!

  153. @Abe
    @Twinkie

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and...”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @John Johnson, @Twinkie, @Neoconned

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    People who get hired in the media are paid to be articulate and turn in copy on time. They’re not hired to know something, though some of them may. Have a gander at Chris Hedges, formerly of The New York Times. He has oodles of liberal education, travels the world for years on end, and yet he puts his name on tripe like this

    • Replies: @Abe
    @Art Deco


    People who get hired in the media are paid to be articulate and turn in copy on time. They’re not hired to know something,
     
    Well, knowing the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia, or at the very least having the decency to be mortified when you’ve proven to the whole world you do not know, used to be a requisite for appearing on national TV news:

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/msnbcs-joy-reid-makes-three-factual-errors-one-tweet/

    Joy Reid needs to get off the social media, calm down, and have a ginger.

    Replies: @Art Deco

  154. @Abe
    @Twinkie

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and...”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @John Johnson, @Twinkie, @Neoconned

    AOC has a ginger.

    Has had him for over a decade. # of children to date = 0

  155. @Art Deco
    @Abe

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    People who get hired in the media are paid to be articulate and turn in copy on time. They're not hired to know something, though some of them may. Have a gander at Chris Hedges, formerly of The New York Times. He has oodles of liberal education, travels the world for years on end, and yet he puts his name on tripe like this

    https://www.amazon.com/American-Fascists-Christian-Right-America/dp/0743284461

    Replies: @Abe

    People who get hired in the media are paid to be articulate and turn in copy on time. They’re not hired to know something,

    Well, knowing the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia, or at the very least having the decency to be mortified when you’ve proven to the whole world you do not know, used to be a requisite for appearing on national TV news:

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/msnbcs-joy-reid-makes-three-factual-errors-one-tweet/

    Joy Reid needs to get off the social media, calm down, and have a ginger.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
    @Abe

    Well, knowing the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia, or at the very least having the decency to be mortified when you’ve proven to the whole world you do not know, used to be a requisite for appearing on national TV news:

    When? My personal favorite bit of media inanity was one of those Nightline segments which included as a guest the 'award winning' Don Kladstrup. The subject was one of the long string of airline hijackings and what not in 1985. The Arab terrorists running one of these ops allow a news team, Kladstrup among them, to interview an airline pilot taken hostage. Kladstrup says, when asked about it by Ted Koppel, no the captain didn't seem to have been coerced to offer the responses he did.

  156. @Jack D
    @utu


    Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?
     
    I think the Germans have it right. In German, Kunst means art but it also means skill or craft. They are really all the same thing. The test is (or should be) "Is this something that a untrained layman, without any training or natural gift (e.g. me), could create on his own?" If it is, then it's not art. By that measure, much of modern art fails (and therefore is not art) but Escher does not, not by a long shot. Conversely, defining commercial art (e.g. Rockwell) or even craft work (an elaborately carved bannister) as not art is just snooty - if it requires high skill or craftsmanship then it is art even if the high priests of culture look down upon it.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @utu

    No, this is wrong.

    Aesthetics is far from being an exact field, but it clearly distinguishes between a work of art and merely a skillful piece of work. Of course, it does not have carved in stone criteria, but it boils down to that a work of art survives the test of time, while a skillful craft, after some time, becomes for virtually all- empty, insignificant & shallow.

    That goes, for instance, for most of Vivaldi, or for Petrarch-inspired poetry.

    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Bardon Kaldian

    "Aesthetics is far from being an exact field, but it clearly distinguishes between a work of art and merely a skillful piece of work"

    Ananda Coomaraswamy says, hold my beer...

    http://jahanbegloo.com/content/ananda-k-coomaraswamy-metaphysical-critique-modernity

  157. @Single malt
    @syonredux

    Barry Lyndon is a wonderfully beautiful movie. I saw it at a theatre in Winnipeg; there was an audible, albeit faint, gasp from the audience when a panoramic shot of the English countryside—remarkably pristine and unspoiled by industrial pollution—came on the screen. Another scene conveyed the pastoral quietude of the 18th century of the German countryside, where the deserter Barry found refuge.

    Kubrick invented a lens, so I read, to film interior scenes of a posh drawing room illuminated only by candle light. The film is a great aesthetic achievement.

    Replies: @PiltdownMan, @MEH 0910

    How Kubrick Achieved the Beautiful Cinematography of Barry Lyndon

    MORE HERE: Lenses at the Kubrick Exhibit in San Francisco – http://bit.ly/2wt5wPX

    Stanley Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon is often lauded as one of the greatest achievements in the history of cinematography. And in a decade or even a year with some of the toughest competition you can think of, Barry Lyndon always seems to stick out just a little bit more. But what sets the cinematography of Barry Lyndon apart from other movies? And how was it done?

    • Replies: @Single malt
    @MEH 0910

    That video was brilliant! Thanks for the recommendation.

    Replies: @MEH 0910

  158. THE FURY OF THE FATHERLESS
    by Mary Eberstadt

    First, a syllogism: The riots amount to social dysfunction on parade…

    The murder rates in inner cities, for example, are irreducibly familial phenomena. That’s because the murder problem is largely a gang problem, and the gang problem is largely a daddy problem…

    Second, the language of BLM itself suggests that daddy issues are an ingredient in the political mix that has exploded in cities across the country…

    Third, the biographies of at least some of today’s race-minded trailblazers suggest a connection between fatherlessness and identity politics. The author of the bestseller White Fragility was a child of divorce at age two. The author of the bestseller So You Want to Talk About Race reports that her father left the family and broke off contact, also when she was two. The author of another bestseller, Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race, was raised by a single mother. The author of another hot race book, The Anti-Racist: How to Start the Conversation About Race and Take Action, was raised by his grandmother.

    • Thanks: Charon, Jim Don Bob
  159. @syonredux
    @syonredux

    One of the members of my covert conservative seminar on campus told me that the class discussion on 2001 was dominated by Woke concerns over the film's "implicit endorsement of White supremacy." Ya see, the Star-Child is extremely White....



    http://www.scottdrotar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/071221105852_3.jpg



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXS8P0HksQo

    Replies: @flyingtiger, @dfordoom, @Chrisnonymous, @JackOH, @Peter D. Bredon, @anonymous, @Ray P, @John Johnson

    2001 is overrated and heavily egalitarian.

    As with all secular modernists and egalitarians he wants everyone to have an “apes to space” evolutionary view and just pretend that nothing of significance happened in-between. Kalahari bushmen could just as easily be launching satellites if not for external factors (I.E. racism).

    Egalitarians especially love sci-fantasy where race is no longer an issue. It just magically goes away and then we all explore space together.

    When did he write this? In the 60s? This is just another case of reality denial through film.

    That was during the time of riots and this guy is penning space fantasy.

    Just more low calorie junk food for reality haters.

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @John Johnson

    Dunno. Only Europeans are seen in space, which would seem to indicate something un-Woke. Plus, only David Bowman manages to overcome HAL and make it to the Star-Gate....

  160. @Abe
    @Art Deco


    People who get hired in the media are paid to be articulate and turn in copy on time. They’re not hired to know something,
     
    Well, knowing the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia, or at the very least having the decency to be mortified when you’ve proven to the whole world you do not know, used to be a requisite for appearing on national TV news:

    https://freebeacon.com/politics/msnbcs-joy-reid-makes-three-factual-errors-one-tweet/

    Joy Reid needs to get off the social media, calm down, and have a ginger.

    Replies: @Art Deco

    Well, knowing the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia, or at the very least having the decency to be mortified when you’ve proven to the whole world you do not know, used to be a requisite for appearing on national TV news:

    When? My personal favorite bit of media inanity was one of those Nightline segments which included as a guest the ‘award winning’ Don Kladstrup. The subject was one of the long string of airline hijackings and what not in 1985. The Arab terrorists running one of these ops allow a news team, Kladstrup among them, to interview an airline pilot taken hostage. Kladstrup says, when asked about it by Ted Koppel, no the captain didn’t seem to have been coerced to offer the responses he did.

  161. @Abe
    @Twinkie

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and...”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @John Johnson, @Twinkie, @Neoconned

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    There is a much bigger problem with beta level White women with social science degrees that think they are part of some educated elite class that only needs to stop Bad Whites to create a multi-racial utopia.

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off.

    There is a much bigger problem with the previously described beta level White women getting out of college at 27 with debt and realizing they can’t just grab a handsome 6 figure White man like TEEVEE tells them.

    They become cat moms and direct their rage at the Bad Whites that their professors convinced them are the cause of all problems.

    • Agree: Charon
  162. @Jack D
    @Abe

    While this sounds like a good idea on paper, do we have empirical proof that fixing a sistah up with a ginger really takes the edge off? Are there examples of sistahs with white mates who are nevertheless still mischief makers? Maybe having a white mate (and later whitish children) only makes you MORE anxious to prove your black bona-fides, especially given that many of these sistas are barely (like Kamala and Princess Meghan) black to begin with?

    The other problem is that while reasonably attractive good-haired mulattas like Kamala and Meghan have no problem landing white boyfriends, many of the most troublemaking sistahs are considerably darker, frizzier and fatter than the above, not to mention having personalities like fingernails on a chalkboard. Short of roofie-ing their drinks, how are we supposed to enlist said gingers? Tell them that they should do it for their country?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Twinkie

    Maybe having a white mate (and later whitish children) only makes you MORE anxious to prove your black bona-fides, especially given that many of these sistas are barely (like Kamala and Princess Meghan) black to begin with?

    I’m sure it gives them another level of liberal guilt. Why wouldn’t it? They get liberal guilt over using a straw.

    They spend their days depicting White men as the enemy and then they go home and get on the Evil White Man carnival ride to take the edge off.

    I used to work with college educated White liberal women and was amazed by how duplicitous they were to their own cause.

    They would swear allegiance to liberalism and diversity but then swoon over some new White boyfriend that one of them got.

    I never saw any of them date even a light Hispanic. They also didn’t date the effeminate liberal men at the office.

    Most of them *just happened* to be dating or married to kinda ahole fun loving White guys that wern’t too short or too poor. The ones that didn’t were grumpy for not having said White guy and seemed to be holding out for one. I have no doubt that every single one would poll as willing to date any race. You really cannot trust a single word that liberal women say when it comes to dating.

  163. @WriterAnon
    @Whiskey

    You have grave misunderstandings about white mens SMV. A huwhite guy in our current "salad bowl" cosmopolitan society is a luxury brand for women, ironically strengthened by the DIE drumbeat that we are all scheming, wealthy, callous, racist, hyperpredators that destroy and oppress people basically from the moment of birth. For the vast majority of women, this is a very attractive feature mix: MENA women (sans Jews), latin American women, and Asian women especially break hard toward white men when it comes to their mate selection, which has been shown empirically many times.

    White women are less affected by this and at least on the surface decry it, but it is telling that they have the lowest rate out out-breeding of any female group besides black women (who in addition to being fanatically attracted to black men, are generally so undesirable to all races that there is not competition for them which may have driven down their loyalty.)

    The top frats, the makeup of the most elite nightlife and social circle parties in terms of quality of females bedded breaks overwhelmingly toward white men, with dark blacks being forced out even more than they were twenty years ago by the continuing arrival of handsome, masculine MENA men and the occasional jacked and charismatic asian, usually Korean or Chinese. Increasing diversity continues to increase the value of the White Male brand sexually as proportionally it becomes more scarce and more sought after by status signaling newly arrived women.

    Perhaps you have been out of the game too long, Whiskey. The trends I observe in person every day are diametrically opposed to what you state. As a wealthy white guy who just turned thirty in a major city, the problem isn't getting mogged by blacks (which not only have I never experienced, but have never even seen happening despite being in the thick of the free-fire college and young professional sexual market place for more than a decade), the problem is that in a regular month you literally cannot bed all the high quality women who engage with you and try to honeypot you into long term commitment often enough to keep them from getting discouraged and dropping out.

    White men are spinning so many plates and burning through so many high quality women that me and many of my friends worry more about the long term impairment to our own pair formation abilities than anything else. I'm starting to doubt the old PUA theory that oxytocin suppression and loss of pair bonding ability proportional to body count is a exclusively female phenomenon. Women I would have fallen completely and permanently in love with ten years ago are now just bed warmers for a couple nights and I wonder and worry if the damage and ennui can be reversed. Not a good situation, taken as a whole, but the exact opposite of what you describe. Its a symptom of far too much power, not a symptom of powerlessness.

    Maybe that is just for young, handsome, wealthy guys. I don't know your situation it is possible you are not any of those and have a different experience.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @SFG

    I would say reality about the success of white men in today’s dating-mating game lay smack dab in the middle of Whiskey’s perspective of a barren landscape and the insistence you are a snatch bandito supremo. In a nutshell, we are doing fine. More than probable, you are not as accomplished as you claim to be.

    “Women I would have fallen completely and permanently in love with ten years ago are now just bed warmers for a couple nights and I wonder and worry if the damage and ennui can be reversed”.

    Of course you are able to stem the tide and do an about face. It is called willpower, Kemosabe. Perhaps you ought to employ “game” to secure a monogamous relationship and engage in coitus for the exclusive purpose of siring offspring. But you are simply making excuses to live the Don Juan lifestyle with all the trimmings. What is the end result? A bitter man in his 40’s with plenty of p-pelts on the wall, still trying to chase young tail with his favorite lines, but without the trophy wife nor prodigious progeny.

    Do you want to end up being a sexual grifter like Roissy? Keep on your current path.

    • Thanks: Abe
    • Replies: @WriterAnon
    @Corvinus

    Seems like I hit a nerve. Sorry your wife was higher mileage than you expected. Its probably not my fault.

    Replies: @Corvinus

  164. @Jack D
    @utu


    Very clever and a lot of hard work but is it art?
     
    I think the Germans have it right. In German, Kunst means art but it also means skill or craft. They are really all the same thing. The test is (or should be) "Is this something that a untrained layman, without any training or natural gift (e.g. me), could create on his own?" If it is, then it's not art. By that measure, much of modern art fails (and therefore is not art) but Escher does not, not by a long shot. Conversely, defining commercial art (e.g. Rockwell) or even craft work (an elaborately carved bannister) as not art is just snooty - if it requires high skill or craftsmanship then it is art even if the high priests of culture look down upon it.

    Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @utu

    On purely formal level you argue your case correctly but you miss the Fifth Element, the Quintessence that is necessary to transform the skill and the talent into an art. Perec: Designing ever more and more complex crossword puzzles does not turn you into an artist. Escher: Laying out more and more elaborate patterns of tiles does not make you an artist. Kaufman: Realizing an obvious logical conundrum that the object and the subject can’t be one, that you can’t put your head inside your head does not make you an artist.

    • Replies: @Abe
    @utu


    On purely formal level you argue your case correctly but you miss the Fifth Element, the Quintessence that is necessary to transform the skill and the talent into an art.
     

    "Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wickerwork picnic baskets."
    –Tom Stoppard
     
    (OK, I admit getting this from playing a lot of CIV 6 this year. BTW, a wonderful teaching tool as my 11 year old, who is concurrently playing it as well and- being the great kid he is- using Wikipedia to fill in background about whatever person or place or concept that intrigues him, still turns to the Old Man when it doesn’t all quite gel, allowing me to play the know-it-all blowhard role I do so much enjoy. CIV 6, BTW, is the exception that proves the rule in terms of being an almost lone shining example of GOOD multiculturalism. At first I scoffed at the game’s inclusion of ‘minor’ civilizations like Brazil, Congo, etc. as just so much politically correct pandering. Then on further reflection it occurred to me: 1) this game is sold around the world, so why shouldn’t some kid in Seoul or São Paulo get to play as the ‘home team?’; 2) knowledge and appreciation for world cultures is inherently an expansive, non-zero-sum “good thing”, no matter what your age. For example, despite considering myself a fair classicist I tossed aside the game’s use of a female leader for the Scythians as just so much you-go-girl feminist fabulism until I actually bothered looking it up and-holy crap!- Tomyris was a real, historical person and- what!- she killed Cyrus the Great and dipped his severed head in a jug full of blood?! Why the heck did no one inform me of this freakin’ awesome fact until just now!!)
  165. @MEH 0910
    @Single malt

    How Kubrick Achieved the Beautiful Cinematography of Barry Lyndon
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOLZMr52Wcc


    MORE HERE: Lenses at the Kubrick Exhibit in San Francisco - http://bit.ly/2wt5wPX

    Stanley Kubrick’s Barry Lyndon is often lauded as one of the greatest achievements in the history of cinematography. And in a decade or even a year with some of the toughest competition you can think of, Barry Lyndon always seems to stick out just a little bit more. But what sets the cinematography of Barry Lyndon apart from other movies? And how was it done?
     

    Replies: @Single malt

    That video was brilliant! Thanks for the recommendation.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @Single malt

    https://www.youtube.com/c/CinemaTyler/playlists

    Replies: @Single malt

  166. @utu
    @Jack D

    On purely formal level you argue your case correctly but you miss the Fifth Element, the Quintessence that is necessary to transform the skill and the talent into an art. Perec: Designing ever more and more complex crossword puzzles does not turn you into an artist. Escher: Laying out more and more elaborate patterns of tiles does not make you an artist. Kaufman: Realizing an obvious logical conundrum that the object and the subject can't be one, that you can't put your head inside your head does not make you an artist.

    Replies: @Abe

    On purely formal level you argue your case correctly but you miss the Fifth Element, the Quintessence that is necessary to transform the skill and the talent into an art.

    “Skill without imagination is craftsmanship and gives us many useful objects such as wickerwork picnic baskets.”
    –Tom Stoppard

    (OK, I admit getting this from playing a lot of CIV 6 this year. BTW, a wonderful teaching tool as my 11 year old, who is concurrently playing it as well and- being the great kid he is- using Wikipedia to fill in background about whatever person or place or concept that intrigues him, still turns to the Old Man when it doesn’t all quite gel, allowing me to play the know-it-all blowhard role I do so much enjoy. CIV 6, BTW, is the exception that proves the rule in terms of being an almost lone shining example of GOOD multiculturalism. At first I scoffed at the game’s inclusion of ‘minor’ civilizations like Brazil, Congo, etc. as just so much politically correct pandering. Then on further reflection it occurred to me: 1) this game is sold around the world, so why shouldn’t some kid in Seoul or São Paulo get to play as the ‘home team?’; 2) knowledge and appreciation for world cultures is inherently an expansive, non-zero-sum “good thing”, no matter what your age. For example, despite considering myself a fair classicist I tossed aside the game’s use of a female leader for the Scythians as just so much you-go-girl feminist fabulism until I actually bothered looking it up and-holy crap!- Tomyris was a real, historical person and- what!- she killed Cyrus the Great and dipped his severed head in a jug full of blood?! Why the heck did no one inform me of this freakin’ awesome fact until just now!!)

  167. @Corvinus
    @WriterAnon

    I would say reality about the success of white men in today's dating-mating game lay smack dab in the middle of Whiskey's perspective of a barren landscape and the insistence you are a snatch bandito supremo. In a nutshell, we are doing fine. More than probable, you are not as accomplished as you claim to be.

    "Women I would have fallen completely and permanently in love with ten years ago are now just bed warmers for a couple nights and I wonder and worry if the damage and ennui can be reversed".

    Of course you are able to stem the tide and do an about face. It is called willpower, Kemosabe. Perhaps you ought to employ "game" to secure a monogamous relationship and engage in coitus for the exclusive purpose of siring offspring. But you are simply making excuses to live the Don Juan lifestyle with all the trimmings. What is the end result? A bitter man in his 40’s with plenty of p-pelts on the wall, still trying to chase young tail with his favorite lines, but without the trophy wife nor prodigious progeny.

    Do you want to end up being a sexual grifter like Roissy? Keep on your current path.

    Replies: @WriterAnon

    Seems like I hit a nerve. Sorry your wife was higher mileage than you expected. Its probably not my fault.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @WriterAnon

    "Seems like I hit a nerve. Sorry your wife was higher mileage than you expected. Its probably not my fault."

    Thanks for your gamma tell. See, had you come up with a witty retort rather than standard fare, you may have well shown off your alpha bona fides. Instead, the opportunity slipped right through your fingers.

  168. @Whiskey
    @Servant of Gla'aki

    Well, that must be why the Kardashian clan is broke and no one ever heard of them.

    I personally have seen many professional women with kids by black baby daddies. Marriage increasingly is for the uber elite and celebs, Asian immigrants.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    I personally have seen many professional women with kids by black baby daddies.

    • Replies: @Captain Tripps
    @Twinkie

    Hmm, so you are $848 up on me? I salute you good sir! (Probably much more, given your anecdotal self-reporting in the comments here over the years). We are in the 2.2% niche of married couples, though this data is a decade old now; I think the percentages in the top two categories are higher now.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    , @SFG
    @Twinkie

    Twinkie's hard at work building the hapa master race, I see. ;)

    It's data from 2008-2010, which is about when Steve wrote his article, but we see the WMAF > AMWF and BMWF > WMBF dynamics.

    Leaving aside the marginal differences we see the Asian-white "we met at college" overclass, everyone else (including white guys with black or Hispanic women) kind of in the middle, black or Hispanic guys marrying white women doing a little worse than that, and blacks and Hispanics at the bottom.

    Replies: @Twinkie

  169. @Abe
    @Twinkie

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and...”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @John Johnson, @Twinkie, @Neoconned

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off.

    Why do you hate white men so much?

  170. @Jack D
    @Abe

    While this sounds like a good idea on paper, do we have empirical proof that fixing a sistah up with a ginger really takes the edge off? Are there examples of sistahs with white mates who are nevertheless still mischief makers? Maybe having a white mate (and later whitish children) only makes you MORE anxious to prove your black bona-fides, especially given that many of these sistas are barely (like Kamala and Princess Meghan) black to begin with?

    The other problem is that while reasonably attractive good-haired mulattas like Kamala and Meghan have no problem landing white boyfriends, many of the most troublemaking sistahs are considerably darker, frizzier and fatter than the above, not to mention having personalities like fingernails on a chalkboard. Short of roofie-ing their drinks, how are we supposed to enlist said gingers? Tell them that they should do it for their country?

    Replies: @John Johnson, @Twinkie

    many of the most troublemaking sistahs are considerably darker, frizzier and fatter than the above, not to mention having personalities like fingernails on a chalkboard.

    That sounds disturbingly like you have a low opinion of blacks. I guess I’m not the only racist here.

    “For a [Jewish] person, you are pretty racist.”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/2020-in-a-nutmeg/#comment-4280160

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    I have a low opinion of most people, including people who nurse grudges and keep track of my tossed off comments as if they were compiling a dossier against me.

    Maybe it's a generational thing but I kinda miss the old world where every word that you said and wrote was not recorded and indexed in searchable form for all posterity for your enemies to dredge up later.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

  171. @Abe
    @Twinkie

    Being it here acknowledged that the last 25 years of affirmative action having produced a glut of middling IQ black girls with useless “studies” degrees from prestigious universities they had no business attending

    Being it here acknowledged that said affirmative action regime having been seamlessly carried over into the corporate jobs market

    Being it here acknowledged that fair share of said middling IQ black girls therefore secured positions at top-shelf media concerns they had no business working for

    Being it here acknowledged that once ensconced in said top-shelf positions they were almost to a skirt assigned one or another of the social media “desks”

    Being it here acknowledged that after day-upon-day of working the Black Twitter and Black Facebook “beat” said middling black girls would inevitably come upon a story of some black perp expiring in police custody under ambiguous circumstances

    Being it here acknowledged that said middling MSM black girls would have no trouble, no trouble at all, browbeating their stale pale male nominal workplace bosses into turning such ambiguous incidents into 24/7, front page national scandals

    Being it here acknowledged such Black Mischief, being the most causatively parsimonious explanation for the outbreak of BLM 1.0 (“Could have been my son” edition) and BLM 2.0 (“Rest in power” edition) is therefore the most likely

    It is therefore hereby resolved that to secure future social peace and prevent more racially explosive mediate concoctions it is in the national interest to find white boyfriends for all such middling top-shelf media black girls to take a bit of their edge off. Let us call it, the “7 Gingers for 7 Sistahs” project. AOC has a ginger. Meghan Markle has a ginger. Roxanne Gay deserves a ginger. “A ginger for you, and a ginger for you, and...”

    Replies: @Art Deco, @Jack D, @Art Deco, @Art Deco, @John Johnson, @Twinkie, @Neoconned

    I found it interesting both AOC amd the Somali chick and i think the Arab 1 too…..all have white male partners….

  172. @Twinkie
    @Whiskey


    I personally have seen many professional women with kids by black baby daddies.
     
    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/02/16/business/economy/economix-17interracial/economix-17interracial-blog480.jpg

    Replies: @Captain Tripps, @SFG

    Hmm, so you are $848 up on me? I salute you good sir! (Probably much more, given your anecdotal self-reporting in the comments here over the years). We are in the 2.2% niche of married couples, though this data is a decade old now; I think the percentages in the top two categories are higher now.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @Captain Tripps


    We are in the 2.2% niche of married couples, though this data is a decade old now; I think the percentages in the top two categories are higher now.
     
    Well, we do both shop at H-Mart. ;) Though I also shop at Wegmans and Lidl.

    Although our demographic has increased in absolute number, it’s also possible that it has shrunk percentage wise. Asian intermarriage rate has slightly declined in the past 20 years or so, i.e. a higher fraction of Asian-Americans are marrying other Asian-Americans than previously.
  173. @syonredux
    @SFG

    Of course, D&D is now Woke AF:


    A Wondrous People

    Whenever you find yourself in a bustling city, you're likely to spot a wonderful variety of folk. You hear words in languages utterly foreign to you, and you smell dishes both delectable and strange. Waterdeep is the ultimate city of such delights, and before long, the alien thing becomes familiar to you, and the stranger becomes your friend.
     


    The people of Waterdeep are among the greatest of its splendors. Fashion, comportment, love-these things are practiced with an art and a zest in the city uncommon elsewhere. Visit a festhall or festival and see for yourself! And don't miss the cross-dressing performers who regale audiences with humor and song. Fabulous-that word doesn't begin to describe it, especially when they enhance the merriment with magic.
     

    The city is also a haven for those who define for themselves what it means to be a man or a woman, those who transcend gender as the gods do, and those who redefine entirely who they are. What confidence! I never tire of witnessing it. I have seen folk in Waterdeep whose lives are more magical than the marvels possible with spells.
     
    https://geekdad.com/2018/10/waterdeep-dragon-heist-go-hunting-treasure-on-your-next-dd-5th-edition-campaign/


    https://www.sarahdarkmagic.com/sites/www.sarahdarkmagic.com/files/images/VajraSafahr.preview.jpg


    https://i.pinimg.com/736x/8f/0c/ca/8f0cca079c3c17ed1661e0bcc21fdc75.jpg

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SFG, @SOL, @Ray P, @Percy Gryce

    I’ve been thinking about the origins of D&D a lot recently. There’s now a fair bit of published work on the subject. My thesis is that D&D/RPGs were the sissification of wargaming. One might even describe them as an early wokening. Wargaming was physics; RPGs were cultural studies.

    So the current SJWification of D&D was probably baked into the cake.

    • Agree: dfordoom
    • Replies: @Peter D. Bredon
    @Percy Gryce

    "My thesis is that D&D/RPGs were the sissification of wargaming. One might even describe them as an early wokening. Wargaming was physics; RPGs were cultural studies."

    Only sissies study culture. Says the man who wonders why his culture sucks.

    Reading comments at unz is like watching one of those old movies where physicians sit around trying to cure cancer while smoking.

    Moar physics!

  174. Has any male writer seriously used a female pseudonym? Off the top of my head I can’t think of one. The most successful woman writer of the last two decades, Joanne Rowling, used male names: J.K. Rowling and Robert Galbraith. And, by the bye, she’s in trouble for that in the most 2020 way:

    https://www.them.us/story/jk-rowlings-pen-name-also-name-of-anti-lgbtq-conversion-therapist

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Percy Gryce


    used male names: J.K. Rowling
     
    How is J.K. a male name?

    There's a long tradition of female writers using either just initials (M.F.K. Fisher) or male pen names (George Eliot).

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    , @Ray P
    @Percy Gryce

    A lot of romance novels published under female names were written by male authors.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    , @Art Deco
    @Percy Gryce

    A stable of writers, some male and some female, cranked out the "Nancy Drew Mysteries". They all wrote under the pseudonym 'Carolyn Keene'.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

  175. @Twinkie
    @Jack D


    many of the most troublemaking sistahs are considerably darker, frizzier and fatter than the above, not to mention having personalities like fingernails on a chalkboard.
     
    That sounds disturbingly like you have a low opinion of blacks. I guess I’m not the only racist here.

    “For a [Jewish] person, you are pretty racist.”

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/2020-in-a-nutmeg/#comment-4280160

    Replies: @Jack D

    I have a low opinion of most people, including people who nurse grudges and keep track of my tossed off comments as if they were compiling a dossier against me.

    Maybe it’s a generational thing but I kinda miss the old world where every word that you said and wrote was not recorded and indexed in searchable form for all posterity for your enemies to dredge up later.

    • Agree: nebulafox, JackOH
    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D

    Unintentional irony is often the best irony.

    , @Twinkie
    @Jack D

    Sounds like you regret writing what you did and, instead of admitting so, you just invert it back to the person who point out your hypocrisy.

    You know, you could just say, “I didn’t mean that” or “Sorry about calling you a racist.” Instead you seem to be implying that I am your “enemy” who is “compiling a dossier” on you in an effort to make me sound like the unreasonable person.

    I guess you are still not going to tell me what you meant by your original remark though I asked you politely to elaborate.

  176. @Percy Gryce
    Has any male writer seriously used a female pseudonym? Off the top of my head I can't think of one. The most successful woman writer of the last two decades, Joanne Rowling, used male names: J.K. Rowling and Robert Galbraith. And, by the bye, she's in trouble for that in the most 2020 way:

    https://www.them.us/story/jk-rowlings-pen-name-also-name-of-anti-lgbtq-conversion-therapist

    Replies: @Jack D, @Ray P, @Art Deco

    used male names: J.K. Rowling

    How is J.K. a male name?

    There’s a long tradition of female writers using either just initials (M.F.K. Fisher) or male pen names (George Eliot).

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @Jack D

    Female authors using initials is indeed a long tradition ... to obscure their sex. Since our default assumption is male authorship, initials are a kind of male pseudonym.

  177. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    I have a low opinion of most people, including people who nurse grudges and keep track of my tossed off comments as if they were compiling a dossier against me.

    Maybe it's a generational thing but I kinda miss the old world where every word that you said and wrote was not recorded and indexed in searchable form for all posterity for your enemies to dredge up later.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

    Unintentional irony is often the best irony.

    • LOL: Twinkie
  178. @Percy Gryce
    Has any male writer seriously used a female pseudonym? Off the top of my head I can't think of one. The most successful woman writer of the last two decades, Joanne Rowling, used male names: J.K. Rowling and Robert Galbraith. And, by the bye, she's in trouble for that in the most 2020 way:

    https://www.them.us/story/jk-rowlings-pen-name-also-name-of-anti-lgbtq-conversion-therapist

    Replies: @Jack D, @Ray P, @Art Deco

    A lot of romance novels published under female names were written by male authors.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @Ray P

    Thanks. I was thinking higher brow lit, but you make a good point.

  179. @WriterAnon
    @Whiskey

    You have grave misunderstandings about white mens SMV. A huwhite guy in our current "salad bowl" cosmopolitan society is a luxury brand for women, ironically strengthened by the DIE drumbeat that we are all scheming, wealthy, callous, racist, hyperpredators that destroy and oppress people basically from the moment of birth. For the vast majority of women, this is a very attractive feature mix: MENA women (sans Jews), latin American women, and Asian women especially break hard toward white men when it comes to their mate selection, which has been shown empirically many times.

    White women are less affected by this and at least on the surface decry it, but it is telling that they have the lowest rate out out-breeding of any female group besides black women (who in addition to being fanatically attracted to black men, are generally so undesirable to all races that there is not competition for them which may have driven down their loyalty.)

    The top frats, the makeup of the most elite nightlife and social circle parties in terms of quality of females bedded breaks overwhelmingly toward white men, with dark blacks being forced out even more than they were twenty years ago by the continuing arrival of handsome, masculine MENA men and the occasional jacked and charismatic asian, usually Korean or Chinese. Increasing diversity continues to increase the value of the White Male brand sexually as proportionally it becomes more scarce and more sought after by status signaling newly arrived women.

    Perhaps you have been out of the game too long, Whiskey. The trends I observe in person every day are diametrically opposed to what you state. As a wealthy white guy who just turned thirty in a major city, the problem isn't getting mogged by blacks (which not only have I never experienced, but have never even seen happening despite being in the thick of the free-fire college and young professional sexual market place for more than a decade), the problem is that in a regular month you literally cannot bed all the high quality women who engage with you and try to honeypot you into long term commitment often enough to keep them from getting discouraged and dropping out.

    White men are spinning so many plates and burning through so many high quality women that me and many of my friends worry more about the long term impairment to our own pair formation abilities than anything else. I'm starting to doubt the old PUA theory that oxytocin suppression and loss of pair bonding ability proportional to body count is a exclusively female phenomenon. Women I would have fallen completely and permanently in love with ten years ago are now just bed warmers for a couple nights and I wonder and worry if the damage and ennui can be reversed. Not a good situation, taken as a whole, but the exact opposite of what you describe. Its a symptom of far too much power, not a symptom of powerlessness.

    Maybe that is just for young, handsome, wealthy guys. I don't know your situation it is possible you are not any of those and have a different experience.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @SFG

    First of all, thank you for the writing advice! We’ll see what I do with it, but thanks either way. 😉

    As a warning from a somewhat older man: have fun, but remember that as you get older, your hair will thin and you will slow down. You may keep the paunch away with exercise, but eventually you will become less physically attractive. This is the human condition. I actually do believe life for a thirtysomething man in a big city is as fun as you describe, particularly if wealthy and handsome. Just remember that you will get old.

    I myself avoided marriage due to the whole spousal-support racket (and I am sure if you are wealthy you have scoped out the best ways to go about prenups and the like), and accepted a lonely death in 30-40 years as the price of not paying my hard-earned cash to some hussy clever enough to pretend to like me for a few years (and, frankly, being too lazy to deal with a screaming baby and practice the high-impact helicopter parenting common to my class). Just remember that the supply of poon will, someday, slow down, and you will find yourself chasing older and older women, more and more of whom have kids.

    By all means, have fun, and gather ye rosebuds while ye may. Just remember that after summer comes winter, and have a plan for when hair grows thin and ardor cools. Consider me the auriga in your triumph’s chariot. 😉

    Minor nitpick: Jewish women may whine about white men in the pages of the NYT (which has a subscriber base of wealthy Jewish women eager to guilt their husbands), but given intermarriage rates north of 50 percent, and given the socioeconomic status of most Jews in this era, I would guess that they also have the desire for the white man.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @SFG

    "I myself avoided marriage due to the whole spousal-support racket...(and, frankly, being too lazy to deal with a screaming baby and practice the high-impact helicopter parenting common to my class)."

    At least you admit your failings. Kudos. And as the Z-man blog had once opined...


    “This is where the men’s rights crowd and the pickup artists got it all wrong. The answer to the degeneracy of feminism is not sullen indifference or craven opportunism. The solution to feminism is for men to get back to policing their own ranks, by enforcing codes of conduct that leave women no choice but to fulfill their natural roles. If white people are going to survive, it will be in a world in which guys like Riley Reynolds are found dead in a ditch. It’s a world where Roosh V lives in fear of men, not in fear of women. That was always the insidiousness of feminism. It was never really about women. It was always about undermining Western societies by emasculating the men. A society where the men are unwilling to protect their daughters from pornographers, too timid to fight back against Pakistani rape gangs, is a defeated society. Men who wait for someone else to protect their women will never find the courage to fight against their masters. When men on our side get that and begin to enforce a moral code on other men, the revolution begins.”
     
    No doubt here that the manosphere are enemies of Western Civilization.
    , @nebulafox
    @SFG

    >Just remember that after summer comes winter, and have a plan for when hair grows thin and ardor cools.

    Advice for late bloomers who are interested in families but also want to make up for lost fun times: allocate a specific, concrete (write it down!) amount of time to get to your crap together and become attractive, a specific, concrete amount of time to get your licks in and lay whatever psychological ghosts you've got to take care of to rest, and a specific, concrete date where you cease that and start the wife search. Those dates are going to come sooner than you think and it'll take longer than you think, so hop to it! Having a more flexible biological clock is a great asset, but not an indelible one: and older fatherhood is harder on you physically!

    Also be hyper-realistic about what you can and cannot realistically hope to achieve. Men tend to be bad at honestly assessing this, but I'd still say that most guys can get more than they've experienced if they work on themselves for a year or two, if less than what they've seen on TV.

  180. @Percy Gryce
    Has any male writer seriously used a female pseudonym? Off the top of my head I can't think of one. The most successful woman writer of the last two decades, Joanne Rowling, used male names: J.K. Rowling and Robert Galbraith. And, by the bye, she's in trouble for that in the most 2020 way:

    https://www.them.us/story/jk-rowlings-pen-name-also-name-of-anti-lgbtq-conversion-therapist

    Replies: @Jack D, @Ray P, @Art Deco

    A stable of writers, some male and some female, cranked out the “Nancy Drew Mysteries”. They all wrote under the pseudonym ‘Carolyn Keene’.

    • Replies: @Percy Gryce
    @Art Deco

    Thanks, I hadn't thought of group pseudonyms.

  181. @WriterAnon
    @Corvinus

    Seems like I hit a nerve. Sorry your wife was higher mileage than you expected. Its probably not my fault.

    Replies: @Corvinus

    “Seems like I hit a nerve. Sorry your wife was higher mileage than you expected. Its probably not my fault.”

    Thanks for your gamma tell. See, had you come up with a witty retort rather than standard fare, you may have well shown off your alpha bona fides. Instead, the opportunity slipped right through your fingers.

  182. @Twinkie
    @Whiskey


    I personally have seen many professional women with kids by black baby daddies.
     
    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2012/02/16/business/economy/economix-17interracial/economix-17interracial-blog480.jpg

    Replies: @Captain Tripps, @SFG

    Twinkie’s hard at work building the hapa master race, I see. 😉

    It’s data from 2008-2010, which is about when Steve wrote his article, but we see the WMAF > AMWF and BMWF > WMBF dynamics.

    Leaving aside the marginal differences we see the Asian-white “we met at college” overclass, everyone else (including white guys with black or Hispanic women) kind of in the middle, black or Hispanic guys marrying white women doing a little worse than that, and blacks and Hispanics at the bottom.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    @SFG


    Twinkie’s hard at work building the hapa master race, I see. 😉
     
    Nah. Hapas become pretty white over only a couple of generations, except maybe in Hawaii.
  183. @SFG
    @WriterAnon

    First of all, thank you for the writing advice! We'll see what I do with it, but thanks either way. ;)

    As a warning from a somewhat older man: have fun, but remember that as you get older, your hair will thin and you will slow down. You may keep the paunch away with exercise, but eventually you will become less physically attractive. This is the human condition. I actually do believe life for a thirtysomething man in a big city is as fun as you describe, particularly if wealthy and handsome. Just remember that you will get old.

    I myself avoided marriage due to the whole spousal-support racket (and I am sure if you are wealthy you have scoped out the best ways to go about prenups and the like), and accepted a lonely death in 30-40 years as the price of not paying my hard-earned cash to some hussy clever enough to pretend to like me for a few years (and, frankly, being too lazy to deal with a screaming baby and practice the high-impact helicopter parenting common to my class). Just remember that the supply of poon will, someday, slow down, and you will find yourself chasing older and older women, more and more of whom have kids.

    By all means, have fun, and gather ye rosebuds while ye may. Just remember that after summer comes winter, and have a plan for when hair grows thin and ardor cools. Consider me the auriga in your triumph's chariot. ;)

    Minor nitpick: Jewish women may whine about white men in the pages of the NYT (which has a subscriber base of wealthy Jewish women eager to guilt their husbands), but given intermarriage rates north of 50 percent, and given the socioeconomic status of most Jews in this era, I would guess that they also have the desire for the white man.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @nebulafox

    “I myself avoided marriage due to the whole spousal-support racket…(and, frankly, being too lazy to deal with a screaming baby and practice the high-impact helicopter parenting common to my class).”

    At least you admit your failings. Kudos. And as the Z-man blog had once opined…

    “This is where the men’s rights crowd and the pickup artists got it all wrong. The answer to the degeneracy of feminism is not sullen indifference or craven opportunism. The solution to feminism is for men to get back to policing their own ranks, by enforcing codes of conduct that leave women no choice but to fulfill their natural roles. If white people are going to survive, it will be in a world in which guys like Riley Reynolds are found dead in a ditch. It’s a world where Roosh V lives in fear of men, not in fear of women. That was always the insidiousness of feminism. It was never really about women. It was always about undermining Western societies by emasculating the men. A society where the men are unwilling to protect their daughters from pornographers, too timid to fight back against Pakistani rape gangs, is a defeated society. Men who wait for someone else to protect their women will never find the courage to fight against their masters. When men on our side get that and begin to enforce a moral code on other men, the revolution begins.”

    No doubt here that the manosphere are enemies of Western Civilization.

  184. @SFG
    @WriterAnon

    First of all, thank you for the writing advice! We'll see what I do with it, but thanks either way. ;)

    As a warning from a somewhat older man: have fun, but remember that as you get older, your hair will thin and you will slow down. You may keep the paunch away with exercise, but eventually you will become less physically attractive. This is the human condition. I actually do believe life for a thirtysomething man in a big city is as fun as you describe, particularly if wealthy and handsome. Just remember that you will get old.

    I myself avoided marriage due to the whole spousal-support racket (and I am sure if you are wealthy you have scoped out the best ways to go about prenups and the like), and accepted a lonely death in 30-40 years as the price of not paying my hard-earned cash to some hussy clever enough to pretend to like me for a few years (and, frankly, being too lazy to deal with a screaming baby and practice the high-impact helicopter parenting common to my class). Just remember that the supply of poon will, someday, slow down, and you will find yourself chasing older and older women, more and more of whom have kids.

    By all means, have fun, and gather ye rosebuds while ye may. Just remember that after summer comes winter, and have a plan for when hair grows thin and ardor cools. Consider me the auriga in your triumph's chariot. ;)

    Minor nitpick: Jewish women may whine about white men in the pages of the NYT (which has a subscriber base of wealthy Jewish women eager to guilt their husbands), but given intermarriage rates north of 50 percent, and given the socioeconomic status of most Jews in this era, I would guess that they also have the desire for the white man.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @nebulafox

    >Just remember that after summer comes winter, and have a plan for when hair grows thin and ardor cools.

    Advice for late bloomers who are interested in families but also want to make up for lost fun times: allocate a specific, concrete (write it down!) amount of time to get to your crap together and become attractive, a specific, concrete amount of time to get your licks in and lay whatever psychological ghosts you’ve got to take care of to rest, and a specific, concrete date where you cease that and start the wife search. Those dates are going to come sooner than you think and it’ll take longer than you think, so hop to it! Having a more flexible biological clock is a great asset, but not an indelible one: and older fatherhood is harder on you physically!

    Also be hyper-realistic about what you can and cannot realistically hope to achieve. Men tend to be bad at honestly assessing this, but I’d still say that most guys can get more than they’ve experienced if they work on themselves for a year or two, if less than what they’ve seen on TV.

  185. @PiltdownMan
    @Reg Cæsar

    OT:

    Last night, Secretary of State-designee Anthony Blinken posted a new music video to his YouTube channel.

    He doesn't sing very well, but his band is decent.

    https://youtu.be/A4sSpLqEruQ

    Replies: @Curle

    This song seems more appropriate.

  186. @syonredux
    @utu

    BARRY LYNDON is my personal favorite. I've lost track of the number of times I've seen it all the way through (30-40 times? Maybe more). It's a beautiful film, perhaps the greatest historical movie ever made.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcLZU3_XNMo

    Replies: @Single malt, @Cato

    I agree, Barry Lyndon, was a great novel by Thackeray, but an even better film by Kubrick. I saw it only twice, but I still remember it, all these years later, which is the achievement always sought by an artist: make this work stick in the minds of those who view it.

  187. @Bardon Kaldian
    @Jack D

    No, this is wrong.

    Aesthetics is far from being an exact field, but it clearly distinguishes between a work of art and merely a skillful piece of work. Of course, it does not have carved in stone criteria, but it boils down to that a work of art survives the test of time, while a skillful craft, after some time, becomes for virtually all- empty, insignificant & shallow.

    That goes, for instance, for most of Vivaldi, or for Petrarch-inspired poetry.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “Aesthetics is far from being an exact field, but it clearly distinguishes between a work of art and merely a skillful piece of work”

    Ananda Coomaraswamy says, hold my beer…

    http://jahanbegloo.com/content/ananda-k-coomaraswamy-metaphysical-critique-modernity

  188. @Percy Gryce
    @syonredux

    I've been thinking about the origins of D&D a lot recently. There's now a fair bit of published work on the subject. My thesis is that D&D/RPGs were the sissification of wargaming. One might even describe them as an early wokening. Wargaming was physics; RPGs were cultural studies.

    So the current SJWification of D&D was probably baked into the cake.

    Replies: @Peter D. Bredon

    “My thesis is that D&D/RPGs were the sissification of wargaming. One might even describe them as an early wokening. Wargaming was physics; RPGs were cultural studies.”

    Only sissies study culture. Says the man who wonders why his culture sucks.

    Reading comments at unz is like watching one of those old movies where physicians sit around trying to cure cancer while smoking.

    Moar physics!

  189. @Art Deco
    @Percy Gryce

    A stable of writers, some male and some female, cranked out the "Nancy Drew Mysteries". They all wrote under the pseudonym 'Carolyn Keene'.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    Thanks, I hadn’t thought of group pseudonyms.

  190. @Ray P
    @Percy Gryce

    A lot of romance novels published under female names were written by male authors.

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    Thanks. I was thinking higher brow lit, but you make a good point.

  191. @Jack D
    @Percy Gryce


    used male names: J.K. Rowling
     
    How is J.K. a male name?

    There's a long tradition of female writers using either just initials (M.F.K. Fisher) or male pen names (George Eliot).

    Replies: @Percy Gryce

    Female authors using initials is indeed a long tradition … to obscure their sex. Since our default assumption is male authorship, initials are a kind of male pseudonym.

  192. @John Johnson
    @syonredux

    2001 is overrated and heavily egalitarian.

    As with all secular modernists and egalitarians he wants everyone to have an "apes to space" evolutionary view and just pretend that nothing of significance happened in-between. Kalahari bushmen could just as easily be launching satellites if not for external factors (I.E. racism).

    Egalitarians especially love sci-fantasy where race is no longer an issue. It just magically goes away and then we all explore space together.

    When did he write this? In the 60s? This is just another case of reality denial through film.

    That was during the time of riots and this guy is penning space fantasy.

    Just more low calorie junk food for reality haters.

    Replies: @syonredux

    Dunno. Only Europeans are seen in space, which would seem to indicate something un-Woke. Plus, only David Bowman manages to overcome HAL and make it to the Star-Gate….

  193. @Ray P
    @syonredux

    But in the movie (and the book) hominid apes get affirmative-actioned out of bestiality into humanity by mysterious and benevolent aliens (liberals-in-space) who do not demand anything in return and the same happens at the end to Bowman. If the white man is the pinnacle of evolution why does he need improvement? And tool-use was invented by an African at the start which ends with orbiting satellites.

    Replies: @syonredux

    And tool-use was invented by an African at the start which ends with orbiting
    satellites.

    Everyone was African at the Dawn of Man…..

    But in the movie (and the book) hominid apes get affirmative-actioned out of bestiality into humanity

    Only one tribe of hominids gets the mojo. The ones who don’t get the gift are massacred….

    by mysterious and benevolent aliens (liberals-in-space) who do not demand anything in return and the same happens at the end to Bowman. If the white man is the pinnacle of evolution why does he need improvement?

    Europeans prove that they are worthy by being the ones who get to the Jupiter Monolith. And Bowman proves that he is worthy of ascension by being the only man (cf Ulysses) who survives the journey.

  194. @Single malt
    @MEH 0910

    That video was brilliant! Thanks for the recommendation.

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    @MEH 0910

    Just watched the piece on “There Will Be Blood”. Impressive.

  195. @MEH 0910
    @Single malt

    https://www.youtube.com/c/CinemaTyler/playlists

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    Just watched the piece on “There Will Be Blood”. Impressive.

  196. @Anonymous

    These guys were culture heroes a decade ago, aesthetically and politically impeccable I’m sure, but the era of the great white male hero, even in the mode of great white rebel against his great white father, is so over and problematic. White guys must now be “allies”, which means standing at the back of the room silently until asked to go fetch coffee.
     
    This may be part of it, but a bigger reason is generational.

    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson were/are popular with Generation X white guys. Millenial and younger white guys find them to be cringe-y and embarrassing. The younger tastes are in reaction to Boomerism and Gen X dweebiness, hence the preference for more hard edged, hard right stuff and aesthetics on the young Right, and more militant leftism and old school Marxism on the young Left.

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    These angsty, dweeby figures like David Foster Wallace and Wes Anderson

    DFW looked more like the semi-buff dude out of ‘It’s Always Sunny in Philapdelphia‘ (Rob McElhenney) crossed with Lars Ulrich, rather than an angsty dweeby type.

    The angsty-dweeb used to be the most popular affectation: it was basically bro-code for ‘Jew who wants people to think he’s smart‘. It was always a schtick , but at least it was benign.

    During the life of the now-defunct Asperger’s ‘diagnosis’ people who were trying to differentiate themselves but lacking the outright cognitive grunt, would be Larry-David level ill-mannered assholes … hoping that the schlubs would think it was a sign of genius.

    Now that Ass-burgers has been relegated to the sewer where all psycho-charlatanry belongs, maybe angsty-dweeb will make a comeback.

    In any case, I’m profoundly not interested in anything DFW wrote or said or did; same with Wes Anderson.

    From a safe viewing distance it’s obvious that everything they produce[d] insists upon itself (in the PeterGriffinian sense of the phrase).

    Then again: I would say that, wouldn’t I… having low Obsequiousness, low Pusillanimity and high Excitability (to pick three arbitrary adjectives as inputs for yet another taxonomy of psychocharlatan bullshit on an evidentiary par with dreamcatchers, crystals and astrology).

    Plus, I did not care for The Godfather. I’ll let Peter explain.

  197. @SFG
    @Twinkie

    Twinkie's hard at work building the hapa master race, I see. ;)

    It's data from 2008-2010, which is about when Steve wrote his article, but we see the WMAF > AMWF and BMWF > WMBF dynamics.

    Leaving aside the marginal differences we see the Asian-white "we met at college" overclass, everyone else (including white guys with black or Hispanic women) kind of in the middle, black or Hispanic guys marrying white women doing a little worse than that, and blacks and Hispanics at the bottom.

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    Twinkie’s hard at work building the hapa master race, I see. 😉

    Nah. Hapas become pretty white over only a couple of generations, except maybe in Hawaii.

  198. @Jack D
    @Twinkie

    I have a low opinion of most people, including people who nurse grudges and keep track of my tossed off comments as if they were compiling a dossier against me.

    Maybe it's a generational thing but I kinda miss the old world where every word that you said and wrote was not recorded and indexed in searchable form for all posterity for your enemies to dredge up later.

    Replies: @anon, @Twinkie

    Sounds like you regret writing what you did and, instead of admitting so, you just invert it back to the person who point out your hypocrisy.

    You know, you could just say, “I didn’t mean that” or “Sorry about calling you a racist.” Instead you seem to be implying that I am your “enemy” who is “compiling a dossier” on you in an effort to make me sound like the unreasonable person.

    I guess you are still not going to tell me what you meant by your original remark though I asked you politely to elaborate.

  199. @Captain Tripps
    @Twinkie

    Hmm, so you are $848 up on me? I salute you good sir! (Probably much more, given your anecdotal self-reporting in the comments here over the years). We are in the 2.2% niche of married couples, though this data is a decade old now; I think the percentages in the top two categories are higher now.

    Replies: @Twinkie

    We are in the 2.2% niche of married couples, though this data is a decade old now; I think the percentages in the top two categories are higher now.

    Well, we do both shop at H-Mart. 😉 Though I also shop at Wegmans and Lidl.

    Although our demographic has increased in absolute number, it’s also possible that it has shrunk percentage wise. Asian intermarriage rate has slightly declined in the past 20 years or so, i.e. a higher fraction of Asian-Americans are marrying other Asian-Americans than previously.

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