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Lots of people on the left in America look to Sweden for examples of smart government policies, but almost nobody in the U.S. of any ideology looks to Switzerland for ideas, even though multilingual Switzerland would seem like a pretty successful country.

From the Financial Times:

Swiss keep calm and rest on their months of stockpiles
Switzerland has one of the largest strategic reserves of food and medicine in the world

Even in the face of a government lockdown, supply chain disruption has been at a minimum

Sam Jones in Zurich YESTERDAY

… But in the Swiss city of Zurich, the only shortages in supermarkets have been of customers.

As of Thursday evening, Switzerland had 10,714 confirmed cases of the coronavirus and 161 deaths. On a per capita basis, it is the worst-hit state in Europe, reflecting its proximity to Lombardy, northern Italy, the source of the European outbreak.

But even in the face of a Swiss government lockdown, supply chain disruption has been at a minimum.

With between three and six months’ worth of essential foodstuffs and goods kept in storage within the country’s borders, Switzerland maintains one of the largest strategic stockpiles in the world.

As of last year, Switzerland, which has a population of 8.5m, kept 63,000 tonnes of sugar, 160,000 tonnes of white flour for bread, 33,700 tonnes of cooking oil (a fifth of which is for salad dressing and mayonnaise), and just under 400,000 tonnes of specialist feed for its dairy industry in reserve. Already, Swiss authorities have dipped into some medical supplies. …

In November, a huge public outcry put a stop to plans to end the stockpiling of coffee. Government technocrats reasoned that its zero calorific value made it “unessential”. Their defeat means the Swiss currently have 15,000 tonnes of coffee beans in storage to see them through the coronavirus pandemic, if imports into the country dried up and existing commercial stocks vanished.

You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.

Adequate supply is only one half of the picture. The government has run regular public information campaigns for decades advising citizens on how to supply their households.

… The Swiss are advised to have nine litres of bottled water per person, enough food to feed someone for a week, a gas stove, candles and cash.

… Swiss lawmakers had already updated their contingency plans and stockpiling strategy in 2016, as Bern grew increasingly concerned about the fragility of modern supply chains. Officials had been alarmed by a 2015 US storm season that saw food and other goods run out quickly.

One striking feature of the Swiss system is the involvement of the private sector. …

There is no central stockpile: instead, goods are kept in reserve in the warehouses of businesses distributed across the country.

… The close integration with the private sector has huge advantages for the government. Reserves can be released into the supply chain almost instantly, and costs are kept low. …

In some key areas Switzerland has, in common with its neighbours, fallen short. BWL has already released its entire stock — 168,000 — of respiratory masks. Even before the coronavirus outbreak, officials knew the stocks would not be enough: the country needs more than four times as many to see it through the next three months.

So Switzerland did a poor job of planning for contagion by not stockpiling enough masks, but landlocked Switzerland’s planning for war or blockade has helped in other areas.

Modern inventory management has probably gotten too lean and mean in recent years to deal well with the unexpected. Firms like Costco are super efficient about just-in-time logistics compared to how much inventory would have been in the system 30 years ago, but that means we don’t have much margin for error.

 
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  1. Yeah, somehow those of us who are relatively careful about how we live our lives and even about taking precautions and planning for eventualities–we’re not being laughed at any more. Go figure.

    • Replies: @Alan Mercer
    I wore a mask and eye protection to the store the other day. I was laughed or scoffed at no fewer than ten times. Granted I don't live in an identified hotspot (yet). They'll see...
  2. Why don’t our elites look to Switzerland as a model?

    Didn’t allow women to vote until 1971.

    Many if not most families own a semi-automatic, if not fully automatic, gun.

    Tradition of individualism and independence.

    Sure, it’s rich. But it’s just the wrong sort of country.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Why does it matter that they weren't allowed to vote until 1971? What matters is they are currently allowed to vote and 3/7ths of the federal council are women. Shouldn't they be a third world country by now by your reckoning?

    Also, no culture on earth is more individualistic than the United States. Switzerland might be more individualist than most cultures, but still noticeably more collectivist than America.
    , @Dr. X

    Why don’t our elites look to Switzerland as a model?
     
    Although they didn't directly use Switzerland as a model, our elites of the 1780s founded a country that had a lot in common with it: an armed, self-reliant population; a militia system; no foreign alliances or foreign wars; a confederation of powerful states with a limited central government; and no nonwhite immigration (after 1808).

    Too bad we didn't keep it...

    , @Anonymous
    Your thinking of daneland.
    , @MBlanc46
    Switzerland sounds pretty good to me.
    , @nokangaroos
    In 1990 (!) the Supreme Court (d´oh) forced (!) Appenzell-Innerrhoden to let the penis envious vote; to be fair they also regarded non-veterans as honorary females (I love it :P ).
    You have to understand that up until the Napoleonic Wars (when they invaded France instead of - more usually - Tyrol) Switzerland was little more than a self-governed band of brigands.

    To Cossacks and Americans this should fit like a glove ;)
    , @Corn
    “Why don’t our elites look to Switzerland as a model?”

    Like 28Sherman said back when he was still blogging:

    “Switzerland? Nation of white middle class gun owners? Move along, nothing to see here.....”
  3. They have secret escape tunnels and electricity-gifting dams and shelters that can house thousands containing digital libraries about how to rebuild civilization, and they didn’t have enough masks?!

    • Replies: @NamelessNobody
    I like 'electricity-gifting dams'! Very well put; the bards would be be proud of you!
  4. Absolutely right on every point Steve.

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.

    Candid: I think 1971 is the year the last Canton gave women the right to vote. Most women could vote well before then.

    • Replies: @Charon

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.
     
    O hai FWP! One of these things is not like the others. Hint: it's not what you think. It's to do with controlling the USA to get it to do your bidding.
    , @Dr. X

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.
     
    Singapore and Japan should probably be on that list, too...
    , @JohnnyWalker123
    Add China to your list.
    , @AnotherDad


    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.
     
    Disagree. Switzerland is a poorly run nation.

    What you're talking about is that there is competent administration of various public services.

    But the sin qua non of "well run" for a nation is preserving the nation--and improve the quality of life--for the nation's people and their posterity.

    Switzerland utterly fails. They've have a full case of the minoritarian disease. Huge immigrant population. A third of residents are "immigrant background". Maybe half of those are neighbors so not wildly different, and presumably integral racial stock--but there's still no reason Switzerland should be given to them. But a full third are not European at all. 5% of the population is Muslim--a non-integrable, hostile element for any Western natio--the historic enemy invader of the West. And all the usual minoritarian b.s.--"racism!", "xenophobia!"--is hurled at Swiss who want to preserve their nation.

    The #1 duty of a nation is to protect itself from foreign invasion. Switzerland is failing this basic test. "Well run" is a joke.
  5. OT

    https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/03/njsp-colonel-patrick-callahan-on-lakewood-vast-majority-of-the-community-understands-the-importance-of-social-distancing-and-are-complying-with-the-executive-order.html

    NJ is prioritizing fighting antisemitism. People are getting angry because the orthodox community in Lakewood has continued having weddings despite the lockdown. They are going after people venting online about it. Governor Murphy said there is a special place in Hell for the people pointing out how the community is endangering everyone

    The State Police colonel explained that one case was a misunderstanding. In what might seem to be an antisemitic plotline, he explained that they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    How does this work? Do they believe they can't be infected, or that the infection won't harm them? Or is it like the Muslim fatalism, which regards infection as an inscrutable act of god which is pointless to try to prevent?
    , @J.Ross
    they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    Literally rabbinical! But seriously, our response needs to be, "it's anti-Semitic if it's anti-Jewish, and there's an enormous number of Jewish Jews who are Jewish residing in that same area who, somehow, managed to comprehend the order."

    , @ScarletNumber
    Lakewood is up there with Kiryas Joel, New York, in terms of how being overrun with Orthodox Jews can be ruinous to a community. This isn't the first time the Orthodox Jewish population has caused problems for everyone else in town. They walk the streets like they own them. This wouldn't be so bad if they looked both ways before they crossed, but they don't.
    , @danand
    Mr. Munny, an article in the Daily Mail is saying that Jewish are scumming to SARS-Cov-2 at a 10X higher rate than expected. But, so far, the sample size is not quite large enough to be predictive.

    “Jewish leaders have urged their community to 'preserve life' after it emerged one in 20 of those killed by coronavirus in Britain so far are from the religion.

    The Board of Deputies of British Jews told those of the faith to do 'everything you can to follow the Government's guidelines and stay home unless you absolutely cannot'.

    Its president Marie van der Zyl explained to MailOnline how the pandemic presents a particular challenge to 'close knit' communities who cherish festivals and socialising.

    This proportion of 5.4 per cent could be higher because not all the dead would have had traditional funerals. Jews make up only 0.5 per cent of the UK population.“

     
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8159589/Jewish-leaders-urge-community-preserve-life-amid-coronavirus.html
    , @AnotherDad
    American Jews have done a great job of retconning their history and essential character, casting themselves as poor oppressed MLK judged by "content of his character" universalists.

    In fact, the Jews are the Wests' great rejectionists of universal, we're-all-in-this-together neighborliness in favor of keeping their separate tribal identity. Thumbing their nose at the majority community--their norms, their values, is per spec. They are historically anti-neighborly people.

    These folks in NY and NJ are simply real Jews, behaving as real Jews actually do--thumbing their nose at the larger community's norms and doing their own damn thing.
    , @Nodwink
    Orthodox Jews all over the world are ignoring instructions: Large funeral processions in Israel, 'secret synagogues' in homes in Australia, corona running amok in their communities in New York. They think they above the law.
  6. @Lot
    Absolutely right on every point Steve.

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.

    Candid: I think 1971 is the year the last Canton gave women the right to vote. Most women could vote well before then.

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.

    O hai FWP! One of these things is not like the others. Hint: it’s not what you think. It’s to do with controlling the USA to get it to do your bidding.

  7. “You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.”

    Yes, but what about toilet paper? Apparently the FT left out the amount of tonnage of toilet paper. Are the Swiss stockpiling the White Cloud and Charmin and hoarding it at the expense of the world?

    Finally the truth comes out and the mystery of the missing toilet paper can be told. It’s crossed the border into Switzerland.

  8. Air raid siren went off every Wednesday at noon throughout my grammar school years. Hide under your desk and try for a peek up the skirt of the girl in front of you. Buildings in every neighborhood on the main drag had stockpiles of Civil Defense supplies, including 50 gallon drums of water. Then in the 60s, I think, it all went away. When ever there is a disaster in a far off country the USA send ship loads of food, water and medical supplies. So we have it some place. In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people. If you want bad results, put the government in charge.

    • Agree: Bubba
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    We did the air raid drills when I was in elementary school, mid-1950s. None by junior high, late-1950s.
    , @anon

    If you want bad results, put the government in charge.
     
    Sorry, who was it operating the air raid sirens then? Or was that supposed to also have been bad? Not clear on your story
    , @Triumph104

    In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people.
     
    At this moment, the United Kingdom has a warehouse full of medical supplies that aren't being properly distributed to hospitals.

    https://youtu.be/2-sVia-eGm4

    , @Smithsonian_6

    Then in the 60s, I think, it all went away.
     
    Ditto the UK Civil Defence Corp, a civilian organisation for responding to large scale emergencies. It was disbanded in 1968.

    I have some of their training literature and yes, it covers pandemics.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Defence_Corps
  9. Obamacare was inspired by Switzerland’s healthcare system

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Switzerland can manage to have a Swiss-style healthcare system, because it's filled with Swiss people.

    America cannot have a Swiss-style health system because it's not filled with Swiss people, it's filled with.... well, ya know. And even worse, it's run by... well, ya know.

    Check back on Switzerland in another 20 years, when it has been fully enriched.

    Meantime, though...

    FUN LITTLE-KNOWN FACT: Switzerland also has the world's largest emergency strategic supplies of "Adventure Time" DVD's. Talk about a far-sighted people!
    , @TWS
    Kind of like how "Roadhouse" was inspired by a true story.
  10. There is no central stockpile: instead, goods are kept in reserve in the warehouses of businesses distributed across the country.

    … The close integration with the private sector has huge advantages for the government. Reserves can be released into the supply chain almost instantly, and costs are kept low. …

    Hell, USA companies do this all the time. When hurricanes are approaching, Home Depot will ship generators and preposition them so they will be available to customers when the storm passes over.

    The US government specifies this as a minimum:

    A basic emergency kit should include these items:

    Water: Include at least three gallons per person, to last a total of three days.
    Food: Bring enough non-perishable items for three days.
    First aid kit: Learn how to build a kit at http://www.redcross.org/get-help/how-to-prepare-for-emergencies/anatomy-of-a-first-aid-kit.html.
    Medications: Stock a seven-day supply of prescription and over-the-counter drugs.
    Important documents: Store deeds, leases, insurance policies, passports, medical information and other papers in a fireproof, waterproof container. You may also want to store electronic copies on an external drive or website.
    Contact numbers: Know how to reach your support network, including family members, neighbors, doctors and insurance agents.
    Cash: ATMs may be down during power outages.
    Local maps: The internet and global positioning system (GPS) may not be available.
    Flashlight: Don’t forget batteries!
    Radio: Get one that is powered with batteries or a hand-crank.
    Matches: Keep them in a waterproof container.
    Cell phone: Bring your charger, and consider external batteries.

    Generator: Think about getting a portable generator, and don’t forget the gas.

    https://www.fema.gov/news-release/2019/03/12/prepare-unexpected-build-emergency-kit

    Don’t forget the extras: ammo, spare parts, lubricants, MREs, night vision, Claymores, etc.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Don’t forget the extras: ammo, spare parts, lubricants, MREs, night vision, Claymores, etc.
     
    Darn it, Claymores! I try to be well prepared, but i always forget one thing.
  11. Switzerland has always been an outlier. Their geography and history convinced their powers that be that remaining neutral (small population with no shot of defending itself) and a safe haven for money, was in the best interests of the world and subsequently, would protect the Swiss culture and people. Switzerland is the Svalbard for money in the bank.

    And, yes, Switzerland, Israel and Finland (in that order) are the most locked, loaded, storaged in the world – all small countries surrounded by hostiles.

  12. Hmm. Switzerland is too collectivist to appeal to Fox News Republicans, too capitalist and business friendly to appeal to Bernie Bros, too multi-lingual to appeal to ethnonationalist ideologues.

    No wonder they’re so successful!

    • LOL: Redneck farmer
  13. I get the feeling the German-speaking Cantons are the uber-organized ones who are behind all this planning.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I doubt it. The Swiss are one ethnic group divided by language. Historically, the German cantons were small farm peasants and herdsmen with a very backward peasant illiterate culture.

    The French cantons were manufacturing, especially high end, international trade and commerce. People like Jacques Coure , the von Taxis und Thurns and Fuggers had branches of their businesses in the French cantons as early as the 13 and 14th centuries. Watches were invented in Geneva in the 1520s. The first banques and burses were in the French Cantons. Even religion, the German traditionalist, illiterate peasants kept mostly catholic while the more educated and progressive French cantons became puritans during the reformation. Because they could read the Bible in either catholic Latin or Protestant french

    The German cantons were very poor until the 1870s . That’s when the wealthy English tourists discovered scenery and mountain sport tourism. Prior to that tourism was mainly to cities for architecture, art, music, libraries, religion, high culture. No one went to tiny hillbilly villages to look at mountains before the mid 19th century.

    They are all Germans, mostly the old Helvetian tribe.

    Switzerland does have powerful self governing cantons. But the national government rules absolutely. The Swiss are very conformist. They love rules and regulations. Like Asians, they have a snitch culture. Like Asians they have ways of forcing conformity on neighbors.

    They are all the same mostly Helvetian German ethnicity.

  14. You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.

    Or win a world war without amphetamines…

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2003-01-05-0301040384-story.html

    Which leads to this interesting article …

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/speedy-history-americas-addiction-amphetamine-180966989/

    … and those who exploit this weakness…

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/04/sacklers-oxycontin-opioids/557525/

    • Replies: @ScarletNumber

    Steve: You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.

    Bubba: Or win a world war without amphetamines…
     
    It's amazing to me how many people are addicted to caffeine and how it is universally accepted that so many people are addicted to caffeine. If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.

    Out of principle I refuse to drink the stuff unless it is free and there are no other choices.
  15. Jeremy Corbyn has made some telling points.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52048213

    He said the government had been “shocked” by the national emergency, as their “instincts” were for “free market economics and the small state”.

    “They’ve now suddenly realised that they have to spend money to invest in the state, as we have always said as a party, and they have come around to a lot of that position.”I didn’t think that it would take only three months for me to be proved absolutely right by the amount of money that government is now prepared to put in – and Parliament has just voted through – to deal with the coronavirus crisis.

    “So this is a change in our politics, which the coronavirus crisis has actually meant in every country in the world. “There’s suddenly a realisation that we’re only as healthy as the safety of our neighbour.” Labour fought the 2019 election on a promise to increase spending on the NHS

    • Replies: @Smithsonian_6

    Jeremy Corbyn has made some telling points.
     
    The only difference is that with Jeremy Corbyn we would have had the supply shortages, economic damage and loss of liberty even without a pandemic.
    , @Gordo
    It was Blair who liquidated Britain's emergency stockpiles, and scrapped our freefall nukes.

    Wonder who he was working for?
  16. Lot’s Covid19 Stay At Home TV Reviews:

    The Plot Against America: Quite good so far, very good acting and sets, based on the novel by Steve’s very favorite author. 🙂

    Belgravia: Downton Abbey style prestige Brit TV, but set around 1840. So far excellent, and my one complaint about DA is the pace can be a little slow. Belgravia fixes this. So far zero ahistorical black earls, soldiers, or shopkeepers.

    Picard: I liked TNG reruns as a kid, but gave up on this show midway through episode 4. It isn’t bad at all, I just outgrew SciFi and only come back for the very best. The first episode was enjoyable, nice to catch up with Picard and see the TNG universe in HD and with modern SFX. After that, meh.

    The Simpsons: I think this season has been especially good.

    • Replies: @BenKenobi

    The Simpsons: I think this season has been especially good.
     
    Of everything you've said around here, that is the most egregious. The Simpsons died with Maude Flanders on Feb 13, 2000.
    , @Almost Missouri
    Have you read Anglin's reviews of Picard? I've never cared for Star Trek, so I wouldn't watch this stuff anyway, but his reviews make me laugh.
    , @Known Fact
    Rarely do Switzerland and TV come up in the same thread, so I'll take this opportunity to recommend The Monks of St. Thomas Affair, a solid 1966 Man From U.N.C.L.E. episode in which THRUSH quietly takes over an Alpine monastery -- because it offers the best angles for a new laser gun they plan to point at Europe's major cities.
  17. Anonymous[217] • Disclaimer says:
    @candid_observer
    Why don't our elites look to Switzerland as a model?

    Didn't allow women to vote until 1971.

    Many if not most families own a semi-automatic, if not fully automatic, gun.

    Tradition of individualism and independence.

    Sure, it's rich. But it's just the wrong sort of country.

    Why does it matter that they weren’t allowed to vote until 1971? What matters is they are currently allowed to vote and 3/7ths of the federal council are women. Shouldn’t they be a third world country by now by your reckoning?

    Also, no culture on earth is more individualistic than the United States. Switzerland might be more individualist than most cultures, but still noticeably more collectivist than America.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Shouldn’t they be a third world country by now by your reckoning?
     
    Switzerland was the first Third World country, during the Cold War:

    Going by the historical definition, nations including Finland, Sweden, Ireland and Switzerland were Third World countries.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/third-world-countries/
     


    Why does it matter that they weren’t allowed to vote until 1971?

     

    He said "the elites". The "regressive" Swiss attitude would have been a turnoff for the bien-pensants lasting long afterward. Also, most government in Swizerland is local. The last canton to fall– actually, half-canton– was Appenzell-Innerholden in 1991. Voting was tightly linked with militia service. They even brought their rifles.

    Note that also in 1991 we repeated our 1944 invasion to liberate an antisuffragist country from a suffragist occupier.

    If you were wondering where universal women's suffrage was first practiced, it was in Utah Territory. Wyoming had enacted it earlier, but the Utahns held an election before them.

    Not that the bien-pensants have much love for Utah, or Wyoming.

  18. @candid_observer
    Why don't our elites look to Switzerland as a model?

    Didn't allow women to vote until 1971.

    Many if not most families own a semi-automatic, if not fully automatic, gun.

    Tradition of individualism and independence.

    Sure, it's rich. But it's just the wrong sort of country.

    Why don’t our elites look to Switzerland as a model?

    Although they didn’t directly use Switzerland as a model, our elites of the 1780s founded a country that had a lot in common with it: an armed, self-reliant population; a militia system; no foreign alliances or foreign wars; a confederation of powerful states with a limited central government; and no nonwhite immigration (after 1808).

    Too bad we didn’t keep it…

  19. @Lot
    Absolutely right on every point Steve.

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.

    Candid: I think 1971 is the year the last Canton gave women the right to vote. Most women could vote well before then.

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.

    Singapore and Japan should probably be on that list, too…

    • Agree: Lot
  20. Anonymous[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @william munny
    OT

    https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/03/njsp-colonel-patrick-callahan-on-lakewood-vast-majority-of-the-community-understands-the-importance-of-social-distancing-and-are-complying-with-the-executive-order.html

    NJ is prioritizing fighting antisemitism. People are getting angry because the orthodox community in Lakewood has continued having weddings despite the lockdown. They are going after people venting online about it. Governor Murphy said there is a special place in Hell for the people pointing out how the community is endangering everyone

    The State Police colonel explained that one case was a misunderstanding. In what might seem to be an antisemitic plotline, he explained that they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    How does this work? Do they believe they can’t be infected, or that the infection won’t harm them? Or is it like the Muslim fatalism, which regards infection as an inscrutable act of god which is pointless to try to prevent?

  21. Who says you can’t learn something from an American art school?

    Students at the New York University Tisch School of the Arts want some of their tuition money back because they say virtual classes aren’t what they paid for — but instead of addressing the situation, the school’s dean sent them a video of herself dancing to REM’s “Losing My Religion.”

    Eddie Murphy in Meet Ed: “You are now educated.”

    • Replies: @donut
    My favorite comment was "I want my tuition back and I graduated ten years ago ."

    Thanks .
  22. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @candid_observer
    Why don't our elites look to Switzerland as a model?

    Didn't allow women to vote until 1971.

    Many if not most families own a semi-automatic, if not fully automatic, gun.

    Tradition of individualism and independence.

    Sure, it's rich. But it's just the wrong sort of country.

    Your thinking of daneland.

  23. @william munny
    OT

    https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/03/njsp-colonel-patrick-callahan-on-lakewood-vast-majority-of-the-community-understands-the-importance-of-social-distancing-and-are-complying-with-the-executive-order.html

    NJ is prioritizing fighting antisemitism. People are getting angry because the orthodox community in Lakewood has continued having weddings despite the lockdown. They are going after people venting online about it. Governor Murphy said there is a special place in Hell for the people pointing out how the community is endangering everyone

    The State Police colonel explained that one case was a misunderstanding. In what might seem to be an antisemitic plotline, he explained that they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    Literally rabbinical! But seriously, our response needs to be, “it’s anti-Semitic if it’s anti-Jewish, and there’s an enormous number of Jewish Jews who are Jewish residing in that same area who, somehow, managed to comprehend the order.”

    • Replies: @william munny
    Of course the big problem for them is they are infecting their own people. The community leaders are trying to stop it but weddings are very important in the community. And lots of people travel between Brooklyn and Lakewood. It is going to be bad. Rumor is that some prominent people are very sick. We will see in two weeks. At least they are somewhat isolated from other communities.
  24. Never Mind The Bolexes?

    “Cuckoo For Switzerland”
    https://www.aei.org/articles/cuckoo-for-switzerland/

    Cuckoo For “Citizen Kane”
    (Welles in The Third Man)

    MORE

    Sigh…a decade or so ago gave away a Swiss-made mint condition Bolex H8 Reflex wind-up movie camera to my much-brainier-than-me, born-out-of-wedlock, shamefully-neglected-by-me-when-she-was-growing-up, now-pushing-40 commie daughter. I’m afraid to ask her about the Bolex because it has probably been sold. It was very sweet of her to text me recently. One shouldn’t miss an inanimate object more than one’s issue, but then again, I’m an asshole.

    • Agree: Mr. Hack
    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    Minor Correction: Austria produced the cuckoo clock!
    , @but an humble craftsman
    How much I longed for an H8 in my boyhood.
    Be glad you had one and cherish the memory.
    , @PiltdownMan
    About a year ago, I had the job of clearing out my late parents' home, where my dad had lived until he passed on about a decade ago. PiltdownBrother1, who had been living there, decided he couldn't do it.

    I now have the old family Bolex B8 twin lens turret 8mm camera ( a much more basic device than the H8) as well as the old M-8 projector from the early 1950s. It's an extraordinary piece of mid-century precision mechanical engineering, but as with other nice things that belonged to my parents that I am now the possessor of, I'm not sure where it will all end up.

    For my kids, the things with sentimental value are what they grew up with, my cameras, not their grandparents' camera, which my siblings and I grew up with. I'm learning that not everything in a family is an heirloom, even if it is of heirloom quality. Even if you had kept it, the H8 would eventually have gone.

    https://imgur.com/a/BnSljC5

  25. Anonymous[266] • Disclaimer says:

    even though multilingual Switzerland would seem like a pretty successful country.

    But they’re all one RACE – high quality white people. It’s not the language or culture that matters as much as race.

    Hey, so when do the mountains of corpses start showing up? Literally nobody I know or that I know of knows anyone who’s even got a sniffle.

    • Replies: @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    "Hey, so when do the mountains of corpses start showing up? Literally nobody I know or that I know of knows anyone who’s even got a sniffle."

    Dittoes. That includes Fakebook friendos prone to embarrassing overshare.

    #CoronaHoax
    , @epebble

    But they’re all one RACE – high quality white people. It’s not the language or culture that matters as much as race.
     
    What about Italy/Spain/France? Are they multiracial or low quality (or both)? Is Russia high or low quality? They have 1000 infections and 4 deaths.
  26. anon[156] • Disclaimer says:

    Our food supply chain is quite robust to this disruption. People are buying a huge amount of food, some hoarding, a lot of boredom, and a lot less calories are eaten away from home.

    Everything is mostly in stock, and what isn’t will be as soon as people chill a bit.

    The supply problems are elsewhere, unless you think we need a strategic toilet paper reserve.

    Switzerland is a great country. 8 million people.

    • Replies: @Marty
    Wanna know what’s out of stock everywhere? Baking powder.
    , @Marty
    Wanna know what’s out of stock everywhere? Baking powder.
  27. @R4DCNTR
    Obamacare was inspired by Switzerland's healthcare system

    Switzerland can manage to have a Swiss-style healthcare system, because it’s filled with Swiss people.

    America cannot have a Swiss-style health system because it’s not filled with Swiss people, it’s filled with…. well, ya know. And even worse, it’s run by… well, ya know.

    Check back on Switzerland in another 20 years, when it has been fully enriched.

    Meantime, though…

    FUN LITTLE-KNOWN FACT: Switzerland also has the world’s largest emergency strategic supplies of “Adventure Time” DVD’s. Talk about a far-sighted people!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Switzerland can manage to have a Swiss-style healthcare system, because it’s filled with Swiss people.
     
    Same was true, to a lesser extent, for Romneycare and Massachusetts.

    Some of the world's cities have clean and safe subway systems. Fancy that. I rode the Honolulu city bus to school alone in fourth grade. No problems, and way better than a school bus.

    The Seoul government produced Tayo the Little Bus to encourage safe bus riding for little kids. No air pollution visible, though. Ow young do Korean children ride unaccompanied?

    https://tayothelittlebus.fandom.com/wiki/Tayo_the_Little_Bus_(character)
  28. @J.Ross
    they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    Literally rabbinical! But seriously, our response needs to be, "it's anti-Semitic if it's anti-Jewish, and there's an enormous number of Jewish Jews who are Jewish residing in that same area who, somehow, managed to comprehend the order."

    Of course the big problem for them is they are infecting their own people. The community leaders are trying to stop it but weddings are very important in the community. And lots of people travel between Brooklyn and Lakewood. It is going to be bad. Rumor is that some prominent people are very sick. We will see in two weeks. At least they are somewhat isolated from other communities.

    • Replies: @Smithsonian_6
    Early days and small sample, but...

    https://www.timesofisrael.com/nearly-5-of-uk-coronavirus-dead-are-jewish/
     
  29. So Switzerland did a poor job of planning for contagion by not stockpiling enough masks, but landlocked Switzerland’s planning for war or blockade has helped in other areas.

    Completely agree as it pertains to us. In fact that was part of a zillion-word comment from the last thread.

    We should create a new command under the US Army specifically for this purpose, in this crisis, the next one, and to help our economy in between. The Treasury should fund this command to the tune of $1 or $10 or $100 billion per year as appropriate and task them with drawing up a list of essential supplies, (for the military, health care, the economy, etc) and delegating to that command the responsibility for securing the supply chain of those things.

    The point being, we don’t have to rebuild the entire industrial base in the United States. That would cost a metric fcukton of money and be a horrible waste of American manpower. But we need some dedicated resources for this, that can be dedicated to the national interest and have the freedom to operate at a loss.

    I expect it’s going to be easier to accomplish some complicated task, eg, being able to wheel out ventilators for coronavirus patients, if some of the steps are already done for us. Sort of like the space program. When President Kennedy said we were going to the moon, we already had a sophisticated military aviation program. That’s not to say we could take a P51 or F4 and fly it to the moon. But because we had some of the things we needed already, we could work that much harder on the things that we didn’t have.

  30. There is much truth to the saying “America’s an economy, not a country….”

    Our leaders care about shareholders& to a lesser extent bondholders….the rest of us have to get along about as well as we can…..our leaders generally speaking could give a rip about average idiots like you and me….

    This Brad Pitt monologue describes our society and culture well….

    • Replies: @epebble

    “America’s an economy, not a country….”
     
    I think the quote is America is an economy pretending to be a nation.
  31. @reactionry
    Never Mind The Bolexes?

    "Cuckoo For Switzerland"
    https://www.aei.org/articles/cuckoo-for-switzerland/

    Cuckoo For "Citizen Kane"
    (Welles in The Third Man)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cydkTy6GmFA

    MORE

    Sigh...a decade or so ago gave away a Swiss-made mint condition Bolex H8 Reflex wind-up movie camera to my much-brainier-than-me, born-out-of-wedlock, shamefully-neglected-by-me-when-she-was-growing-up, now-pushing-40 commie daughter. I'm afraid to ask her about the Bolex because it has probably been sold. It was very sweet of her to text me recently. One shouldn't miss an inanimate object more than one's issue, but then again, I'm an asshole.

    Minor Correction: Austria produced the cuckoo clock!

  32. Exactly one year ago today I inaugurated the SSSoR:

    Siouxsie Sioux Scale of Reckoning

    Stage 1: The Passenger
    Stage 2: This Wheel’s On Fire
    Stage 3: Cities In Dust

    At the time, I rated the United States as holding at Stage 1: The Passenger with the caution “Could be a hint of smoke in the cabin, though.” Given ongoing circumstances, I find it fitting to declare the United States at Stage 2: This Wheel’s On Fire.

    The Passenger

    This Wheel’s On Fire

    Cities In Dust

    • Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease
    You left out Siouxsie Stage Four: "Il Est Ne le Divin Enfant" -- the redemptive phase.

    I think that might be a baby-faced Robert Smith with the cymbals.
    , @AnotherGuessModel
    Surely this ought be Stage 1:

    https://youtu.be/zpaqBXc5MTk
    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    Killing Joke says hello:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL_U5GSUBpw

    I can see tomorrow, I can see the world to come

    I can see tomorrow, hear the pandemonium
     
  33. Iceland finds a guy with two different strains of COVID-19.
    Multiple sources, not just Italy. Probably true in the US as well, given there’s one strain in Seattle, probably a different one in New York, possibly a third in New Orleans.

    https://grapevine.is/news/2020/03/24/patient-infected-with-two-strains-of-covid-19-in-iceland/

  34. @Lot
    Lot’s Covid19 Stay At Home TV Reviews:

    The Plot Against America: Quite good so far, very good acting and sets, based on the novel by Steve’s very favorite author. :)

    Belgravia: Downton Abbey style prestige Brit TV, but set around 1840. So far excellent, and my one complaint about DA is the pace can be a little slow. Belgravia fixes this. So far zero ahistorical black earls, soldiers, or shopkeepers.

    Picard: I liked TNG reruns as a kid, but gave up on this show midway through episode 4. It isn’t bad at all, I just outgrew SciFi and only come back for the very best. The first episode was enjoyable, nice to catch up with Picard and see the TNG universe in HD and with modern SFX. After that, meh.

    The Simpsons: I think this season has been especially good.

    The Simpsons: I think this season has been especially good.

    Of everything you’ve said around here, that is the most egregious. The Simpsons died with Maude Flanders on Feb 13, 2000.

  35. @candid_observer
    Why don't our elites look to Switzerland as a model?

    Didn't allow women to vote until 1971.

    Many if not most families own a semi-automatic, if not fully automatic, gun.

    Tradition of individualism and independence.

    Sure, it's rich. But it's just the wrong sort of country.

    Switzerland sounds pretty good to me.

  36. @Buffalo Joe
    Air raid siren went off every Wednesday at noon throughout my grammar school years. Hide under your desk and try for a peek up the skirt of the girl in front of you. Buildings in every neighborhood on the main drag had stockpiles of Civil Defense supplies, including 50 gallon drums of water. Then in the 60s, I think, it all went away. When ever there is a disaster in a far off country the USA send ship loads of food, water and medical supplies. So we have it some place. In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people. If you want bad results, put the government in charge.

    We did the air raid drills when I was in elementary school, mid-1950s. None by junior high, late-1950s.

  37. @Joe Stalin

    There is no central stockpile: instead, goods are kept in reserve in the warehouses of businesses distributed across the country.

    … The close integration with the private sector has huge advantages for the government. Reserves can be released into the supply chain almost instantly, and costs are kept low. …
     
    Hell, USA companies do this all the time. When hurricanes are approaching, Home Depot will ship generators and preposition them so they will be available to customers when the storm passes over.

    The US government specifies this as a minimum:

    A basic emergency kit should include these items:

    Water: Include at least three gallons per person, to last a total of three days.
    Food: Bring enough non-perishable items for three days.
    First aid kit: Learn how to build a kit at www.redcross.org/get-help/how-to-prepare-for-emergencies/anatomy-of-a-first-aid-kit.html.
    Medications: Stock a seven-day supply of prescription and over-the-counter drugs.
    Important documents: Store deeds, leases, insurance policies, passports, medical information and other papers in a fireproof, waterproof container. You may also want to store electronic copies on an external drive or website.
    Contact numbers: Know how to reach your support network, including family members, neighbors, doctors and insurance agents.
    Cash: ATMs may be down during power outages.
    Local maps: The internet and global positioning system (GPS) may not be available.
    Flashlight: Don’t forget batteries!
    Radio: Get one that is powered with batteries or a hand-crank.
    Matches: Keep them in a waterproof container.
    Cell phone: Bring your charger, and consider external batteries.

    Generator: Think about getting a portable generator, and don’t forget the gas.

    https://www.fema.gov/news-release/2019/03/12/prepare-unexpected-build-emergency-kit
     
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsOZSzo-N8o

    Don't forget the extras: ammo, spare parts, lubricants, MREs, night vision, Claymores, etc.

    Don’t forget the extras: ammo, spare parts, lubricants, MREs, night vision, Claymores, etc.

    Darn it, Claymores! I try to be well prepared, but i always forget one thing.

  38. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Exactly one year ago today I inaugurated the SSSoR:

    Siouxsie Sioux Scale of Reckoning

    Stage 1: The Passenger
    Stage 2: This Wheel’s On Fire
    Stage 3: Cities In Dust
     
    At the time, I rated the United States as holding at Stage 1: The Passenger with the caution “Could be a hint of smoke in the cabin, though.” Given ongoing circumstances, I find it fitting to declare the United States at Stage 2: This Wheel’s On Fire.

    The Passenger

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAON-MwUPY

    This Wheel’s On Fire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJH2T_v2RY

    Cities In Dust

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsOHvP1XnRg

    You left out Siouxsie Stage Four: “Il Est Ne le Divin Enfant” — the redemptive phase.

    I think that might be a baby-faced Robert Smith with the cymbals.

    • Replies: @AnotherGuessModel
    Siouxsie Sioux Scale of Reckoning cont.

    Stage 5: Exterminating Angel

    https://youtu.be/UXtKf9nByhc
    , @Jenner Ickham Errican

    the redemptive phase
     
    It’s strictly a Scale of Reckoning. If relating of Redemption is required, surely the Banshees are not the first choice for the discerning faithful. If we are to keep it ‘goth’ perhaps the following classic will suffice for Easter in a time of pestilence (supposedly there are lyrics; I cannot make them out—it’s best in the abstract anyway):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iqxzURgQWg
  39. This hopefully becomes a fairly big story in Australia- not only do these outfits build apartments, they’re also implementing foreign policy

    https://www.smh.com.au/national/second-developer-flies-82-tonnes-of-medical-supplies-to-china-20200326-p54e8n.html

  40. @Anonymous

    even though multilingual Switzerland would seem like a pretty successful country.
     
    But they’re all one RACE – high quality white people. It’s not the language or culture that matters as much as race.

    Hey, so when do the mountains of corpses start showing up? Literally nobody I know or that I know of knows anyone who’s even got a sniffle.

    “Hey, so when do the mountains of corpses start showing up? Literally nobody I know or that I know of knows anyone who’s even got a sniffle.”

    Dittoes. That includes Fakebook friendos prone to embarrassing overshare.

    #CoronaHoax

  41. but almost nobody in the U.S. of any ideology looks to Switzerland for ideas,

  42. but almost nobody in the U.S. of any ideology looks to Switzerland for ideas,

    We libertarian like-minded individuals love Switzerland.

  43. Yes, Swiss, German or Austrian, fine people. The same branch of humankind the U.S. and the British sought to annihilate. If I had a bust of Winston Churchill, it would have been a range target long destroyed.

  44. Anonymous[326] • Disclaimer says:

    Must be nice to have a real country. God bless those that do. Cherish it and keep it your own.

  45. @reactionry
    Never Mind The Bolexes?

    "Cuckoo For Switzerland"
    https://www.aei.org/articles/cuckoo-for-switzerland/

    Cuckoo For "Citizen Kane"
    (Welles in The Third Man)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cydkTy6GmFA

    MORE

    Sigh...a decade or so ago gave away a Swiss-made mint condition Bolex H8 Reflex wind-up movie camera to my much-brainier-than-me, born-out-of-wedlock, shamefully-neglected-by-me-when-she-was-growing-up, now-pushing-40 commie daughter. I'm afraid to ask her about the Bolex because it has probably been sold. It was very sweet of her to text me recently. One shouldn't miss an inanimate object more than one's issue, but then again, I'm an asshole.

    How much I longed for an H8 in my boyhood.
    Be glad you had one and cherish the memory.

  46. @anon
    Our food supply chain is quite robust to this disruption. People are buying a huge amount of food, some hoarding, a lot of boredom, and a lot less calories are eaten away from home.

    Everything is mostly in stock, and what isn't will be as soon as people chill a bit.

    The supply problems are elsewhere, unless you think we need a strategic toilet paper reserve.

    Switzerland is a great country. 8 million people.

    Wanna know what’s out of stock everywhere? Baking powder.

    • Replies: @Pericles

    Wanna know what’s out of stock everywhere? Baking powder.

     

    So they're building up the strategic crack reserve.
    , @Jack D
    Baking powder = two parts cream of tartar to one part baking soda.
  47. @anon
    Our food supply chain is quite robust to this disruption. People are buying a huge amount of food, some hoarding, a lot of boredom, and a lot less calories are eaten away from home.

    Everything is mostly in stock, and what isn't will be as soon as people chill a bit.

    The supply problems are elsewhere, unless you think we need a strategic toilet paper reserve.

    Switzerland is a great country. 8 million people.

    Wanna know what’s out of stock everywhere? Baking powder.

  48. @J.Ross
    Who says you can't learn something from an American art school?

    https://twitter.com/michale_price/status/1241939725121921025

    Students at the New York University Tisch School of the Arts want some of their tuition money back because they say virtual classes aren't what they paid for — but instead of addressing the situation, the school's dean sent them a video of herself dancing to REM's "Losing My Religion."
     
    Eddie Murphy in Meet Ed: "You are now educated."

    My favorite comment was “I want my tuition back and I graduated ten years ago .”

    Thanks .

  49. @Buffalo Joe
    Air raid siren went off every Wednesday at noon throughout my grammar school years. Hide under your desk and try for a peek up the skirt of the girl in front of you. Buildings in every neighborhood on the main drag had stockpiles of Civil Defense supplies, including 50 gallon drums of water. Then in the 60s, I think, it all went away. When ever there is a disaster in a far off country the USA send ship loads of food, water and medical supplies. So we have it some place. In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people. If you want bad results, put the government in charge.

    If you want bad results, put the government in charge.

    Sorry, who was it operating the air raid sirens then? Or was that supposed to also have been bad? Not clear on your story

    • Replies: @anonymous
    We had "duck and cover" drills in school a few times each year up until around 1960 or '61. The air raid siren operator Mr. Joe refers to would probably have been the local fire department.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    827 , Sorry, but I meant the fact that Civil Defense emergency supplies, which were everywhere in my youth, are gone. And in Puerto Rico, where supplies had been sent and warehoused, the government did not distribute them to the people. And. as an aside, was my school desk really adequate protection from a nuclear blast?
  50. @Neoconned
    There is much truth to the saying "America's an economy, not a country...."

    Our leaders care about shareholders& to a lesser extent bondholders....the rest of us have to get along about as well as we can.....our leaders generally speaking could give a rip about average idiots like you and me....

    This Brad Pitt monologue describes our society and culture well....

    https://youtu.be/5V6GHnxEJjg

    “America’s an economy, not a country….”

    I think the quote is America is an economy pretending to be a nation.

    • Agree: Houston 1992
  51. @Anonymous

    even though multilingual Switzerland would seem like a pretty successful country.
     
    But they’re all one RACE – high quality white people. It’s not the language or culture that matters as much as race.

    Hey, so when do the mountains of corpses start showing up? Literally nobody I know or that I know of knows anyone who’s even got a sniffle.

    But they’re all one RACE – high quality white people. It’s not the language or culture that matters as much as race.

    What about Italy/Spain/France? Are they multiracial or low quality (or both)? Is Russia high or low quality? They have 1000 infections and 4 deaths.

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome


    Is Russia high or low quality? They have 1000 infections and 4 deaths.

     

    High quality.
    Coronavirus: Russia closes borders until May
  52. @Buffalo Joe
    Air raid siren went off every Wednesday at noon throughout my grammar school years. Hide under your desk and try for a peek up the skirt of the girl in front of you. Buildings in every neighborhood on the main drag had stockpiles of Civil Defense supplies, including 50 gallon drums of water. Then in the 60s, I think, it all went away. When ever there is a disaster in a far off country the USA send ship loads of food, water and medical supplies. So we have it some place. In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people. If you want bad results, put the government in charge.

    In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people.

    At this moment, the United Kingdom has a warehouse full of medical supplies that aren’t being properly distributed to hospitals.

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    Matt Hancock, the health secretary in the video, has tested positive for Covid-19.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    Tri, I did say ..."If you want bad results, put the government in charge."
  53. @AnotherGuessModel
    They have secret escape tunnels and electricity-gifting dams and shelters that can house thousands containing digital libraries about how to rebuild civilization, and they didn't have enough masks?!

    I like ‘electricity-gifting dams’! Very well put; the bards would be be proud of you!

  54. Well I can certainly think of one reason why the American left wouldn’t pay attention to Switzerland, its traditional education system:

    https://lenews.ch/2016/01/13/80-of-12-year-olds-in-switzerland-are-told-they-cant-go-to-university/

    If there’s one thing the American left really loves (after mass immigration) its mass tertiary education.

    • Thanks: Triumph104
  55. @Triumph104

    In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people.
     
    At this moment, the United Kingdom has a warehouse full of medical supplies that aren't being properly distributed to hospitals.

    https://youtu.be/2-sVia-eGm4

    Matt Hancock, the health secretary in the video, has tested positive for Covid-19.

  56. @Lot
    Absolutely right on every point Steve.

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.

    Candid: I think 1971 is the year the last Canton gave women the right to vote. Most women could vote well before then.

    Add China to your list.

  57. @Anonymous
    Why does it matter that they weren't allowed to vote until 1971? What matters is they are currently allowed to vote and 3/7ths of the federal council are women. Shouldn't they be a third world country by now by your reckoning?

    Also, no culture on earth is more individualistic than the United States. Switzerland might be more individualist than most cultures, but still noticeably more collectivist than America.

    Shouldn’t they be a third world country by now by your reckoning?

    Switzerland was the first Third World country, during the Cold War:

    Going by the historical definition, nations including Finland, Sweden, Ireland and Switzerland were Third World countries.

    https://worldpopulationreview.com/countries/third-world-countries/

    Why does it matter that they weren’t allowed to vote until 1971?

    He said “the elites”. The “regressive” Swiss attitude would have been a turnoff for the bien-pensants lasting long afterward. Also, most government in Swizerland is local. The last canton to fall– actually, half-canton– was Appenzell-Innerholden in 1991. Voting was tightly linked with militia service. They even brought their rifles.

    Note that also in 1991 we repeated our 1944 invasion to liberate an antisuffragist country from a suffragist occupier.

    If you were wondering where universal women’s suffrage was first practiced, it was in Utah Territory. Wyoming had enacted it earlier, but the Utahns held an election before them.

    Not that the bien-pensants have much love for Utah, or Wyoming.

  58. In Austria we have no government stockpiles, but we don’t have any shortages either. Nor are there shortages in Germany other than the weird run on toilet paper at the beginning.

    German speaking peoples still have faith in their government and bureaucrats to respond effectively to a crisis. We also have a safety net – no one is getting evicted, unemployed and business owners don’t have to wait months for Congress to dicker and send checks. A friend of mine in Hamburg said yesterday that there is no country he would rather face this crisis in other than Germany. Our far lower mortality rates seem to bear this out – probably due to having more ICU beds, better personal discipline and better organization.

    There is quite a lot of Schadenfreude about America’s and the UK’s failure to respond correctly. One Austrian bureaucrat was comparing the US to Africa yesterday. We expected that of Italians, but not the US.

    The sad part is that this may well be the last generation of German speaking peoples that will have this sort of organisational skill and discipline.

    • Agree: Houston 1992
  59. @Bubba

    You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.
     
    Or win a world war without amphetamines...

    https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-2003-01-05-0301040384-story.html

    Which leads to this interesting article ...

    https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/speedy-history-americas-addiction-amphetamine-180966989/

    ... and those who exploit this weakness...

    https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2018/04/sacklers-oxycontin-opioids/557525/

    Steve: You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.

    Bubba: Or win a world war without amphetamines…

    It’s amazing to me how many people are addicted to caffeine and how it is universally accepted that so many people are addicted to caffeine. If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.

    Out of principle I refuse to drink the stuff unless it is free and there are no other choices.

    • Replies: @Bubba

    If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.
     
    I agree and think that body count would put Mao, Stalin, King Leopold and Pol Pot to shame.
    , @Lot
    “ If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.”

    I’d lack the energy.
  60. @william munny
    OT

    https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/03/njsp-colonel-patrick-callahan-on-lakewood-vast-majority-of-the-community-understands-the-importance-of-social-distancing-and-are-complying-with-the-executive-order.html

    NJ is prioritizing fighting antisemitism. People are getting angry because the orthodox community in Lakewood has continued having weddings despite the lockdown. They are going after people venting online about it. Governor Murphy said there is a special place in Hell for the people pointing out how the community is endangering everyone

    The State Police colonel explained that one case was a misunderstanding. In what might seem to be an antisemitic plotline, he explained that they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    Lakewood is up there with Kiryas Joel, New York, in terms of how being overrun with Orthodox Jews can be ruinous to a community. This isn’t the first time the Orthodox Jewish population has caused problems for everyone else in town. They walk the streets like they own them. This wouldn’t be so bad if they looked both ways before they crossed, but they don’t.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The crappy old non-road worthy cars the Lubavitch would drive on Rt 9 between Brooklyn and Lakewood could get other drivers killed.

    Lubavitch would never allow members to have late model cars.
    , @Jack D

    Lakewood is up there with Kiryas Joel, New York, in terms of how being overrun with Orthodox Jews can be ruinous to a community.
     
    I grew up near Lakewood and have known it since the early '60s. The Orthodox were not ruinous to it - they came into it because it was already in steep decline and there was cheap space available. If anything, they have revitalized it. If they had not taken up the slack it would be been filled with blacks or Hispanics - in fact it already was and the Orthodox pushed them out to some extent. You are confusing cause and effect.

    The economy of Lakewood was at one time based on winter resort hotels (with a largely Jewish (but not especially ultra-Orthodox) clientele coming by rail, bus or car from NYC) - a sort of Catskills south (Kiryas Joel is in the foothills of the Catskills - not a coincidence). Lakewood, (slightly) south of NYC ,was thought to have a (slightly) warmer climate than NYC in the winter. Jay Gould and John D. Rockefeller had vacation homes (estates) there. But once it became possible to take a quick flight to Florida, these hotels were doomed and someone had to move in to fill the vacuum.

    It's true that they seem to cross the streets without looking but if that's the worst you can say about them, it's not very bad. When was the last time you got mugged by a Hasid?

  61. @reactionry
    Never Mind The Bolexes?

    "Cuckoo For Switzerland"
    https://www.aei.org/articles/cuckoo-for-switzerland/

    Cuckoo For "Citizen Kane"
    (Welles in The Third Man)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cydkTy6GmFA

    MORE

    Sigh...a decade or so ago gave away a Swiss-made mint condition Bolex H8 Reflex wind-up movie camera to my much-brainier-than-me, born-out-of-wedlock, shamefully-neglected-by-me-when-she-was-growing-up, now-pushing-40 commie daughter. I'm afraid to ask her about the Bolex because it has probably been sold. It was very sweet of her to text me recently. One shouldn't miss an inanimate object more than one's issue, but then again, I'm an asshole.

    About a year ago, I had the job of clearing out my late parents’ home, where my dad had lived until he passed on about a decade ago. PiltdownBrother1, who had been living there, decided he couldn’t do it.

    I now have the old family Bolex B8 twin lens turret 8mm camera ( a much more basic device than the H8) as well as the old M-8 projector from the early 1950s. It’s an extraordinary piece of mid-century precision mechanical engineering, but as with other nice things that belonged to my parents that I am now the possessor of, I’m not sure where it will all end up.

    For my kids, the things with sentimental value are what they grew up with, my cameras, not their grandparents’ camera, which my siblings and I grew up with. I’m learning that not everything in a family is an heirloom, even if it is of heirloom quality. Even if you had kept it, the H8 would eventually have gone.

    View post on imgur.com

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    My dad bought his Minolta in Tokyo around the time of the last Olympics there. I still have it. With the postponement of this year's, I now have a chance to save up and use it there next year.
  62. @william munny
    OT

    https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/03/njsp-colonel-patrick-callahan-on-lakewood-vast-majority-of-the-community-understands-the-importance-of-social-distancing-and-are-complying-with-the-executive-order.html

    NJ is prioritizing fighting antisemitism. People are getting angry because the orthodox community in Lakewood has continued having weddings despite the lockdown. They are going after people venting online about it. Governor Murphy said there is a special place in Hell for the people pointing out how the community is endangering everyone

    The State Police colonel explained that one case was a misunderstanding. In what might seem to be an antisemitic plotline, he explained that they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    Mr. Munny, an article in the Daily Mail is saying that Jewish are scumming to SARS-Cov-2 at a 10X higher rate than expected. But, so far, the sample size is not quite large enough to be predictive.

    “Jewish leaders have urged their community to ‘preserve life’ after it emerged one in 20 of those killed by coronavirus in Britain so far are from the religion.

    The Board of Deputies of British Jews told those of the faith to do ‘everything you can to follow the Government’s guidelines and stay home unless you absolutely cannot’.

    Its president Marie van der Zyl explained to MailOnline how the pandemic presents a particular challenge to ‘close knit’ communities who cherish festivals and socialising.

    This proportion of 5.4 per cent could be higher because not all the dead would have had traditional funerals. Jews make up only 0.5 per cent of the UK population.“

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8159589/Jewish-leaders-urge-community-preserve-life-amid-coronavirus.html

  63. Anon[762] • Disclaimer says:

    I sort of wish one modern nation would run with the herd immunity approach so we can compare results after its over. Probably not gonna happen though. If we had that info, along with the age/mortality breakdown, then we might know who to hide at home and who to keep on working (under 30?) if something similar happened a decade down the road?

    I also kinda would like to see the “prescribe that malaria drug” when they got it early on approach vs. us also. Again, prolly not gonna happen.

    • Replies: @TomSchmidt
    I think the Netherlands stuck with it. Check it out,
    , @HA
    "I sort of wish one modern nation would run with the herd immunity approach so we can compare results after its over. Probably not gonna happen though."

    Mexico, Brazil, Sweden have got you covered.


    For background, on March 4, López Obrador responded to news of the global spread of the coronavirus by telling Mexicans, "This idea that you can't hug. You have to hug. Nothing happens."
     
    .

    I'm guessing all those #coronahoax posts are coming from readers who DO want America to turn into Brazil, or Mexico, or Sweden. Otherwise, I'm not really sure what they're on about.

  64. @PiltdownMan
    About a year ago, I had the job of clearing out my late parents' home, where my dad had lived until he passed on about a decade ago. PiltdownBrother1, who had been living there, decided he couldn't do it.

    I now have the old family Bolex B8 twin lens turret 8mm camera ( a much more basic device than the H8) as well as the old M-8 projector from the early 1950s. It's an extraordinary piece of mid-century precision mechanical engineering, but as with other nice things that belonged to my parents that I am now the possessor of, I'm not sure where it will all end up.

    For my kids, the things with sentimental value are what they grew up with, my cameras, not their grandparents' camera, which my siblings and I grew up with. I'm learning that not everything in a family is an heirloom, even if it is of heirloom quality. Even if you had kept it, the H8 would eventually have gone.

    https://imgur.com/a/BnSljC5

    My dad bought his Minolta in Tokyo around the time of the last Olympics there. I still have it. With the postponement of this year’s, I now have a chance to save up and use it there next year.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    That's the SLR. He also got one of these, which I still have:


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/w7kAAOSwW~FcU17X/s-l400.jpg


    I spy! If you can still get film...

  65. @Marty
    Wanna know what’s out of stock everywhere? Baking powder.

    Wanna know what’s out of stock everywhere? Baking powder.

    So they’re building up the strategic crack reserve.

  66. @Reg Cæsar
    My dad bought his Minolta in Tokyo around the time of the last Olympics there. I still have it. With the postponement of this year's, I now have a chance to save up and use it there next year.

    That’s the SLR. He also got one of these, which I still have:

    I spy! If you can still get film…

    • Replies: @PiltdownMan
    There used to be a guy in Colorado who would load cassettes for the Minolta and other submini cameras such as the Minox C (which I bought used, to try out, back in the 2000s when everyone was dumping their film cameras for a song). Fortunately, I didn't delete the bookmark, from some years ago. If you are interested, you can try contacting him.

    http://www.subclub.org/sponsors/goathil2.htm

    , @Anonymous
    You can get the film itself but not the cassettes it has to be loaded in.
  67. @Buffalo Joe
    Air raid siren went off every Wednesday at noon throughout my grammar school years. Hide under your desk and try for a peek up the skirt of the girl in front of you. Buildings in every neighborhood on the main drag had stockpiles of Civil Defense supplies, including 50 gallon drums of water. Then in the 60s, I think, it all went away. When ever there is a disaster in a far off country the USA send ship loads of food, water and medical supplies. So we have it some place. In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people. If you want bad results, put the government in charge.

    Then in the 60s, I think, it all went away.

    Ditto the UK Civil Defence Corp, a civilian organisation for responding to large scale emergencies. It was disbanded in 1968.

    I have some of their training literature and yes, it covers pandemics.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Defence_Corps

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    Smithsonian, Years ago, I and some others, bought a police station to convert to office space. The basement was filled with Civil Defense drums, rations, water, blankets, cots but no meds. Good idea to start again.
  68. @Sean
    Jeremy Corbyn has made some telling points.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52048213

    He said the government had been "shocked" by the national emergency, as their "instincts" were for "free market economics and the small state".

    "They've now suddenly realised that they have to spend money to invest in the state, as we have always said as a party, and they have come around to a lot of that position."I didn't think that it would take only three months for me to be proved absolutely right by the amount of money that government is now prepared to put in - and Parliament has just voted through - to deal with the coronavirus crisis.

    "So this is a change in our politics, which the coronavirus crisis has actually meant in every country in the world. "There's suddenly a realisation that we're only as healthy as the safety of our neighbour." Labour fought the 2019 election on a promise to increase spending on the NHS
     

    Jeremy Corbyn has made some telling points.

    The only difference is that with Jeremy Corbyn we would have had the supply shortages, economic damage and loss of liberty even without a pandemic.

    • Agree: UK
  69. @william munny
    Of course the big problem for them is they are infecting their own people. The community leaders are trying to stop it but weddings are very important in the community. And lots of people travel between Brooklyn and Lakewood. It is going to be bad. Rumor is that some prominent people are very sick. We will see in two weeks. At least they are somewhat isolated from other communities.
  70. >In November, a huge public outcry put a stop to plans to end the stockpiling of coffee. Government technocrats reasoned that its zero calorific value made it “unessential”. Their defeat

    So they, too, have stupid government technocrats, the difference is largely that they can defeat them.

    The Brits have tea kettles in their tanks. Why? Because “unessential” things help keeping morale up during a war.

  71. I see no reason to glorify America’s” just-in-time efficiency”. It means the opposite. There are no stocks anywhere in US, because the manager think they can bring them in “just-in-time”. The shareholders were sold on the idea that having fewer storage spaces saves money for the corporations. In fact, it saved a few pennies once, when the glut of store-owned depots was sold. Afterwards, it brought close to nothing on a rolling basis. It’s not like all that inanimate matter that Americans need, in order to make literal shit, is not stored somewhere. Nor are true storage costs more expensive in Kansas than just past the border.

    Worse, this just-in-time strategy makes it impossible to exploit any sort of increase in demand. It limits the way sellers operate.

    In fact, it’s worse. Since wheat is seasonal, it has to be stored somewhere. Shifting the storage from resellers to producers allows the producers exploit price bubbles, and sell overseas. Most of the American food production is concentrated in the hands of four family owned corporations. In contrast, most of the food sold in America goes through small chains that can hardly extend beyond a few states, and have an ephemeral existence. Even the Costcos and the Walmarts are provincial compared with the likes of Cargill. So you can rely on America’s food being sold to the Chinese when the price is right, and you can expect ever emptier shelves at the onset of every flu panic. The Enronization of America’s (and most of Europe’s) food supply is well under way, if the authorities remain passive.

    In conclusion, not only Americans are unable to make food, were gov subsidies withdrawn and illegal workers kept out of the country. Turns out Americans are unable to hold in their country, in stores, enough toilet paper for two months.

    America ran out of space, because it was overfilled by his yuge brain. They misunderestimated him.

  72. @candid_observer
    Why don't our elites look to Switzerland as a model?

    Didn't allow women to vote until 1971.

    Many if not most families own a semi-automatic, if not fully automatic, gun.

    Tradition of individualism and independence.

    Sure, it's rich. But it's just the wrong sort of country.

    In 1990 (!) the Supreme Court (d´oh) forced (!) Appenzell-Innerrhoden to let the penis envious vote; to be fair they also regarded non-veterans as honorary females (I love it 😛 ).
    You have to understand that up until the Napoleonic Wars (when they invaded France instead of – more usually – Tyrol) Switzerland was little more than a self-governed band of brigands.

    To Cossacks and Americans this should fit like a glove 😉

  73. @Reg Cæsar
    That's the SLR. He also got one of these, which I still have:


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/w7kAAOSwW~FcU17X/s-l400.jpg


    I spy! If you can still get film...

    There used to be a guy in Colorado who would load cassettes for the Minolta and other submini cameras such as the Minox C (which I bought used, to try out, back in the 2000s when everyone was dumping their film cameras for a song). Fortunately, I didn’t delete the bookmark, from some years ago. If you are interested, you can try contacting him.

    http://www.subclub.org/sponsors/goathil2.htm

  74. @candid_observer
    Why don't our elites look to Switzerland as a model?

    Didn't allow women to vote until 1971.

    Many if not most families own a semi-automatic, if not fully automatic, gun.

    Tradition of individualism and independence.

    Sure, it's rich. But it's just the wrong sort of country.

    “Why don’t our elites look to Switzerland as a model?”

    Like 28Sherman said back when he was still blogging:

    “Switzerland? Nation of white middle class gun owners? Move along, nothing to see here…..”

  75. @Lot
    Lot’s Covid19 Stay At Home TV Reviews:

    The Plot Against America: Quite good so far, very good acting and sets, based on the novel by Steve’s very favorite author. :)

    Belgravia: Downton Abbey style prestige Brit TV, but set around 1840. So far excellent, and my one complaint about DA is the pace can be a little slow. Belgravia fixes this. So far zero ahistorical black earls, soldiers, or shopkeepers.

    Picard: I liked TNG reruns as a kid, but gave up on this show midway through episode 4. It isn’t bad at all, I just outgrew SciFi and only come back for the very best. The first episode was enjoyable, nice to catch up with Picard and see the TNG universe in HD and with modern SFX. After that, meh.

    The Simpsons: I think this season has been especially good.

    Have you read Anglin’s reviews of Picard? I’ve never cared for Star Trek, so I wouldn’t watch this stuff anyway, but his reviews make me laugh.

    • Replies: @Romanian
    Have not seen it, but I went and read his reviews on your recommendation. They were pretty funny.
  76. anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    If you want bad results, put the government in charge.
     
    Sorry, who was it operating the air raid sirens then? Or was that supposed to also have been bad? Not clear on your story

    We had “duck and cover” drills in school a few times each year up until around 1960 or ’61. The air raid siren operator Mr. Joe refers to would probably have been the local fire department.

  77. @R4DCNTR
    Obamacare was inspired by Switzerland's healthcare system

    Kind of like how “Roadhouse” was inspired by a true story.

  78. @epebble

    But they’re all one RACE – high quality white people. It’s not the language or culture that matters as much as race.
     
    What about Italy/Spain/France? Are they multiracial or low quality (or both)? Is Russia high or low quality? They have 1000 infections and 4 deaths.

    Is Russia high or low quality? They have 1000 infections and 4 deaths.

    High quality.
    Coronavirus: Russia closes borders until May

  79. So the government should stockpile toilet paper in order to prevent panic buying?

  80. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    You left out Siouxsie Stage Four: "Il Est Ne le Divin Enfant" -- the redemptive phase.

    I think that might be a baby-faced Robert Smith with the cymbals.

    Siouxsie Sioux Scale of Reckoning cont.

    Stage 5: Exterminating Angel

  81. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Exactly one year ago today I inaugurated the SSSoR:

    Siouxsie Sioux Scale of Reckoning

    Stage 1: The Passenger
    Stage 2: This Wheel’s On Fire
    Stage 3: Cities In Dust
     
    At the time, I rated the United States as holding at Stage 1: The Passenger with the caution “Could be a hint of smoke in the cabin, though.” Given ongoing circumstances, I find it fitting to declare the United States at Stage 2: This Wheel’s On Fire.

    The Passenger

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAON-MwUPY

    This Wheel’s On Fire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJH2T_v2RY

    Cities In Dust

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsOHvP1XnRg

    Surely this ought be Stage 1:

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican

    Surely this ought be Stage 1:
     
    Eh. Musically, “Face To Face” is dull and plodding, lyrically not mordantly “Reckoning”-related enough (I suppose one could interpret it as a reference to Adam and Eve—but the SSSoR is not automatically Biblical in nature—e.g., in a stretch it could also apply to the fate of the dinosaurs), and overall too campy in a somewhat commercial sense, having been composed as the theme for Batman Returns—that’s what I associate it with.

    Furthermore, the established SSSoR song lyrics retain a 1-2-3 tight metaphor of a rider in a wheeled conveyance (observing a surrounding city). At Stage 3 the rider is now on foot, as the burning wheel(s) have necessitated egress from the vehicle.

  82. @anon

    If you want bad results, put the government in charge.
     
    Sorry, who was it operating the air raid sirens then? Or was that supposed to also have been bad? Not clear on your story

    827 , Sorry, but I meant the fact that Civil Defense emergency supplies, which were everywhere in my youth, are gone. And in Puerto Rico, where supplies had been sent and warehoused, the government did not distribute them to the people. And. as an aside, was my school desk really adequate protection from a nuclear blast?

    • Replies: @anonymous
    "was my school desk really adequate protection from a nuclear blast?"

    Not if it was right next that room-length bank of windows, Mr. Joe.
    , @anon
    Right, but the gov't provided the Civil Defense stuff in the first place, so the problem isn't gov't per se, it's bad gov't, right? You want gov't of 1950's, not private sector of 2020
  83. @Triumph104

    In Puerto Rico they found a warehouse full of water and food and supplies that had been sent as hurricane relief. Never made it to the people.
     
    At this moment, the United Kingdom has a warehouse full of medical supplies that aren't being properly distributed to hospitals.

    https://youtu.be/2-sVia-eGm4

    Tri, I did say …”If you want bad results, put the government in charge.”

  84. @Lot
    Absolutely right on every point Steve.

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.

    Candid: I think 1971 is the year the last Canton gave women the right to vote. Most women could vote well before then.

    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.

    Disagree. Switzerland is a poorly run nation.

    What you’re talking about is that there is competent administration of various public services.

    But the sin qua non of “well run” for a nation is preserving the nation–and improve the quality of life–for the nation’s people and their posterity.

    Switzerland utterly fails. They’ve have a full case of the minoritarian disease. Huge immigrant population. A third of residents are “immigrant background”. Maybe half of those are neighbors so not wildly different, and presumably integral racial stock–but there’s still no reason Switzerland should be given to them. But a full third are not European at all. 5% of the population is Muslim–a non-integrable, hostile element for any Western natio–the historic enemy invader of the West. And all the usual minoritarian b.s.–“racism!”, “xenophobia!”–is hurled at Swiss who want to preserve their nation.

    The #1 duty of a nation is to protect itself from foreign invasion. Switzerland is failing this basic test. “Well run” is a joke.

    • Replies: @Lot
    You know I favor zero afro/islam migration and eugenic natalism too. I don’t think the Swiss migration situation is quite that bad right now.

    Per Wikipedia, 3.1% of the population was born in Asia, Africa, or Latin America. Some of them may be upper class white Latins and white SAs. That’s doesn’t include 2nd gens, or “Germans” who are Turkish ancestry etc.

    But all-around they are probably the wealthy western nation with the lowest share of third world migrants, and also have populist anti-Islamification laws like a burka and miranet bans. Very conservative rural areas have disproportionate political power too.

    I suppose then they get an A+ if you grade them on a Western Euro curve, not otherwise.
    , @anonymous
    Yes, ladies and gentleman I present the Swiss national football team:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland_national_football_team#/media/File:Switzerland_national_football_team_World_Cup_2018.jpg
  85. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    You left out Siouxsie Stage Four: "Il Est Ne le Divin Enfant" -- the redemptive phase.

    I think that might be a baby-faced Robert Smith with the cymbals.

    the redemptive phase

    It’s strictly a Scale of Reckoning. If relating of Redemption is required, surely the Banshees are not the first choice for the discerning faithful. If we are to keep it ‘goth’ perhaps the following classic will suffice for Easter in a time of pestilence (supposedly there are lyrics; I cannot make them out—it’s best in the abstract anyway):

  86. @Smithsonian_6

    Then in the 60s, I think, it all went away.
     
    Ditto the UK Civil Defence Corp, a civilian organisation for responding to large scale emergencies. It was disbanded in 1968.

    I have some of their training literature and yes, it covers pandemics.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Defence_Corps

    Smithsonian, Years ago, I and some others, bought a police station to convert to office space. The basement was filled with Civil Defense drums, rations, water, blankets, cots but no meds. Good idea to start again.

  87. @william munny
    OT

    https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/03/njsp-colonel-patrick-callahan-on-lakewood-vast-majority-of-the-community-understands-the-importance-of-social-distancing-and-are-complying-with-the-executive-order.html

    NJ is prioritizing fighting antisemitism. People are getting angry because the orthodox community in Lakewood has continued having weddings despite the lockdown. They are going after people venting online about it. Governor Murphy said there is a special place in Hell for the people pointing out how the community is endangering everyone

    The State Police colonel explained that one case was a misunderstanding. In what might seem to be an antisemitic plotline, he explained that they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    American Jews have done a great job of retconning their history and essential character, casting themselves as poor oppressed MLK judged by “content of his character” universalists.

    In fact, the Jews are the Wests’ great rejectionists of universal, we’re-all-in-this-together neighborliness in favor of keeping their separate tribal identity. Thumbing their nose at the majority community–their norms, their values, is per spec. They are historically anti-neighborly people.

    These folks in NY and NJ are simply real Jews, behaving as real Jews actually do–thumbing their nose at the larger community’s norms and doing their own damn thing.

    • Agree: Gordo
  88. @Lot
    Lot’s Covid19 Stay At Home TV Reviews:

    The Plot Against America: Quite good so far, very good acting and sets, based on the novel by Steve’s very favorite author. :)

    Belgravia: Downton Abbey style prestige Brit TV, but set around 1840. So far excellent, and my one complaint about DA is the pace can be a little slow. Belgravia fixes this. So far zero ahistorical black earls, soldiers, or shopkeepers.

    Picard: I liked TNG reruns as a kid, but gave up on this show midway through episode 4. It isn’t bad at all, I just outgrew SciFi and only come back for the very best. The first episode was enjoyable, nice to catch up with Picard and see the TNG universe in HD and with modern SFX. After that, meh.

    The Simpsons: I think this season has been especially good.

    Rarely do Switzerland and TV come up in the same thread, so I’ll take this opportunity to recommend The Monks of St. Thomas Affair, a solid 1966 Man From U.N.C.L.E. episode in which THRUSH quietly takes over an Alpine monastery — because it offers the best angles for a new laser gun they plan to point at Europe’s major cities.

  89. @ScarletNumber

    Steve: You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.

    Bubba: Or win a world war without amphetamines…
     
    It's amazing to me how many people are addicted to caffeine and how it is universally accepted that so many people are addicted to caffeine. If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.

    Out of principle I refuse to drink the stuff unless it is free and there are no other choices.

    If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.

    I agree and think that body count would put Mao, Stalin, King Leopold and Pol Pot to shame.

  90. @AnotherDad


    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.
     
    Disagree. Switzerland is a poorly run nation.

    What you're talking about is that there is competent administration of various public services.

    But the sin qua non of "well run" for a nation is preserving the nation--and improve the quality of life--for the nation's people and their posterity.

    Switzerland utterly fails. They've have a full case of the minoritarian disease. Huge immigrant population. A third of residents are "immigrant background". Maybe half of those are neighbors so not wildly different, and presumably integral racial stock--but there's still no reason Switzerland should be given to them. But a full third are not European at all. 5% of the population is Muslim--a non-integrable, hostile element for any Western natio--the historic enemy invader of the West. And all the usual minoritarian b.s.--"racism!", "xenophobia!"--is hurled at Swiss who want to preserve their nation.

    The #1 duty of a nation is to protect itself from foreign invasion. Switzerland is failing this basic test. "Well run" is a joke.

    You know I favor zero afro/islam migration and eugenic natalism too. I don’t think the Swiss migration situation is quite that bad right now.

    Per Wikipedia, 3.1% of the population was born in Asia, Africa, or Latin America. Some of them may be upper class white Latins and white SAs. That’s doesn’t include 2nd gens, or “Germans” who are Turkish ancestry etc.

    But all-around they are probably the wealthy western nation with the lowest share of third world migrants, and also have populist anti-Islamification laws like a burka and miranet bans. Very conservative rural areas have disproportionate political power too.

    I suppose then they get an A+ if you grade them on a Western Euro curve, not otherwise.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    Lot -- No doubt Switzerland isn't France.

    But from the same Wikipedia article -- Religions

    Muslim adherents:
    Over 65 -- 1.1%
    45-64 -- 4.2%
    25-64 -- 7.5%
    18-25 -- 8.3%

    Actual Swiss girls aren't outbreeding Muslims, and Muslims are still coming.

    This does not "get better".
  91. anonymous[419] • Disclaimer says:
    @AnotherDad


    Best run nations in the world: Switzerland, Hungary, and Israel.
     
    Disagree. Switzerland is a poorly run nation.

    What you're talking about is that there is competent administration of various public services.

    But the sin qua non of "well run" for a nation is preserving the nation--and improve the quality of life--for the nation's people and their posterity.

    Switzerland utterly fails. They've have a full case of the minoritarian disease. Huge immigrant population. A third of residents are "immigrant background". Maybe half of those are neighbors so not wildly different, and presumably integral racial stock--but there's still no reason Switzerland should be given to them. But a full third are not European at all. 5% of the population is Muslim--a non-integrable, hostile element for any Western natio--the historic enemy invader of the West. And all the usual minoritarian b.s.--"racism!", "xenophobia!"--is hurled at Swiss who want to preserve their nation.

    The #1 duty of a nation is to protect itself from foreign invasion. Switzerland is failing this basic test. "Well run" is a joke.

    Yes, ladies and gentleman I present the Swiss national football team:

  92. @ScarletNumber

    Steve: You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.

    Bubba: Or win a world war without amphetamines…
     
    It's amazing to me how many people are addicted to caffeine and how it is universally accepted that so many people are addicted to caffeine. If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.

    Out of principle I refuse to drink the stuff unless it is free and there are no other choices.

    “ If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.”

    I’d lack the energy.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    “ If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.”

    I’d lack the energy.
     
    Where do Mormons get their endless energy? They can't even drink Mountain Dew or A&W rootbeer.
  93. @Almost Missouri
    Have you read Anglin's reviews of Picard? I've never cared for Star Trek, so I wouldn't watch this stuff anyway, but his reviews make me laugh.

    Have not seen it, but I went and read his reviews on your recommendation. They were pretty funny.

  94. Back in the States, experts are warning that the nation’s outbreak of toilet-paper-only yard sales could increase exponentially.

  95. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Exactly one year ago today I inaugurated the SSSoR:

    Siouxsie Sioux Scale of Reckoning

    Stage 1: The Passenger
    Stage 2: This Wheel’s On Fire
    Stage 3: Cities In Dust
     
    At the time, I rated the United States as holding at Stage 1: The Passenger with the caution “Could be a hint of smoke in the cabin, though.” Given ongoing circumstances, I find it fitting to declare the United States at Stage 2: This Wheel’s On Fire.

    The Passenger

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAON-MwUPY

    This Wheel’s On Fire

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAJH2T_v2RY

    Cities In Dust

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsOHvP1XnRg

    Killing Joke says hello:

    I can see tomorrow, I can see the world to come

    I can see tomorrow, hear the pandemonium

  96. @Sean
    Jeremy Corbyn has made some telling points.


    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52048213

    He said the government had been "shocked" by the national emergency, as their "instincts" were for "free market economics and the small state".

    "They've now suddenly realised that they have to spend money to invest in the state, as we have always said as a party, and they have come around to a lot of that position."I didn't think that it would take only three months for me to be proved absolutely right by the amount of money that government is now prepared to put in - and Parliament has just voted through - to deal with the coronavirus crisis.

    "So this is a change in our politics, which the coronavirus crisis has actually meant in every country in the world. "There's suddenly a realisation that we're only as healthy as the safety of our neighbour." Labour fought the 2019 election on a promise to increase spending on the NHS
     

    It was Blair who liquidated Britain’s emergency stockpiles, and scrapped our freefall nukes.

    Wonder who he was working for?

  97. @Anon
    I sort of wish one modern nation would run with the herd immunity approach so we can compare results after its over. Probably not gonna happen though. If we had that info, along with the age/mortality breakdown, then we might know who to hide at home and who to keep on working (under 30?) if something similar happened a decade down the road?

    I also kinda would like to see the "prescribe that malaria drug" when they got it early on approach vs. us also. Again, prolly not gonna happen.

    I think the Netherlands stuck with it. Check it out,

  98. Steve, this came in my morning mail. I found it fascinating, and it goes to the nature of cultures:

    This morning I saw an estimate of mortality rates in multilingual Switzerland. An inexplicable (so far) pattern has arisen in the case fatality rate there.

    German speaking cantons: 0.6% CFR
    French speaking cantons: 1.4% CFR
    Italian speaking cantons: 4.4% CFR
    Mortality rates seem to be lower in Germany as well. I have no explanation for that, and maybe later some scientists will figure it out. Did the virus travel up with Italians into the Italian speaking cantons? Which are closer to the French speaking cantons? About the only thing I can safely predict is that language won’t be the variable.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    The Matterhorn and other big mountains lie between the Italian and German speaking Swiss cantons. They have lots of tunnels, but still ...
  99. @The Germ Theory of Disease
    Switzerland can manage to have a Swiss-style healthcare system, because it's filled with Swiss people.

    America cannot have a Swiss-style health system because it's not filled with Swiss people, it's filled with.... well, ya know. And even worse, it's run by... well, ya know.

    Check back on Switzerland in another 20 years, when it has been fully enriched.

    Meantime, though...

    FUN LITTLE-KNOWN FACT: Switzerland also has the world's largest emergency strategic supplies of "Adventure Time" DVD's. Talk about a far-sighted people!

    Switzerland can manage to have a Swiss-style healthcare system, because it’s filled with Swiss people.

    Same was true, to a lesser extent, for Romneycare and Massachusetts.

    Some of the world’s cities have clean and safe subway systems. Fancy that. I rode the Honolulu city bus to school alone in fourth grade. No problems, and way better than a school bus.

    The Seoul government produced Tayo the Little Bus to encourage safe bus riding for little kids. No air pollution visible, though. Ow young do Korean children ride unaccompanied?

    https://tayothelittlebus.fandom.com/wiki/Tayo_the_Little_Bus_(character)

  100. @Lot
    “ If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.”

    I’d lack the energy.

    “ If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.”

    I’d lack the energy.

    Where do Mormons get their endless energy? They can’t even drink Mountain Dew or A&W rootbeer.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Where do Mormons get their endless energy?
     
    They're high on life!

    I've seen the same behavior in other religious folks.
    , @Lot
    The Mormons I’ve known have been quiet hardworking types without any obvious energy or charisma. More Jeb than Trump in persona.
  101. @AnotherGuessModel
    Surely this ought be Stage 1:

    https://youtu.be/zpaqBXc5MTk

    Surely this ought be Stage 1:

    Eh. Musically, “Face To Face” is dull and plodding, lyrically not mordantly “Reckoning”-related enough (I suppose one could interpret it as a reference to Adam and Eve—but the SSSoR is not automatically Biblical in nature—e.g., in a stretch it could also apply to the fate of the dinosaurs), and overall too campy in a somewhat commercial sense, having been composed as the theme for Batman Returns—that’s what I associate it with.

    Furthermore, the established SSSoR song lyrics retain a 1-2-3 tight metaphor of a rider in a wheeled conveyance (observing a surrounding city). At Stage 3 the rider is now on foot, as the burning wheel(s) have necessitated egress from the vehicle.

  102. You finally got something right. “Just in time” manufacturing and supply means the shelves are bare just when you need something. (Because the best laid plans of mice and men–even the best-laid plans of mice and computers.)

  103. During times of highly unusual crises, we hear of complaints about lack of “stockpiles” about many things. These are inventories of items we normally need but in unusual cases, we need more quickly or resupply is slowed or stopped.

    Some thoughts:
    — how are your personal “stockpiles” of stuff? Unless you are a prepper, probably low. Why, because it ties up your money and takes up space. Plus, stuff kept for too long can get moldy, crack, lose nutritional value, rust, etc. In the 70s I knew a lot of gloom & doomers who were into buying freeze dried food due to impending crashes, etc. Thousands of dollars tied up. Yet I never heard of anyone actually eating that stuff five years later. Most of it was awful and the crashes never happened.
    — in the early 60s economists and others realized that business inventory was costly to keep on hand more than the absolute minimum to prevent production shutdowns. Why? Mainly due to interest carrying costs. Back then rates could normally be 8-10% and in the late 70s-early 80s, up to 20%. Even at lower interest, tying up capital by borrowing or stock floats is expensive. So “just in time” analytics boomed.
    — personally I think having extra certain essential supplies (meds, ammo, gasoline/diesel, etc. ) is a good idea for large businesses and the govt. But who knew to stockpile respirators? Masks? Who wants to tie up cash in dead or slow moving inventory? Predicting the next Black Swan shortage is harder than it looks…

  104. @Reg Cæsar

    “ If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.”

    I’d lack the energy.
     
    Where do Mormons get their endless energy? They can't even drink Mountain Dew or A&W rootbeer.

    Where do Mormons get their endless energy?

    They’re high on life!

    I’ve seen the same behavior in other religious folks.

  105. @Reg Cæsar

    “ If coffee was made illegal there would be riots.”

    I’d lack the energy.
     
    Where do Mormons get their endless energy? They can't even drink Mountain Dew or A&W rootbeer.

    The Mormons I’ve known have been quiet hardworking types without any obvious energy or charisma. More Jeb than Trump in persona.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Wouldn't Romney be a better example than Jeb?
  106. @Lot
    The Mormons I’ve known have been quiet hardworking types without any obvious energy or charisma. More Jeb than Trump in persona.

    Wouldn’t Romney be a better example than Jeb?

  107. @TomSchmidt
    Steve, this came in my morning mail. I found it fascinating, and it goes to the nature of cultures:

    This morning I saw an estimate of mortality rates in multilingual Switzerland. An inexplicable (so far) pattern has arisen in the case fatality rate there.

    German speaking cantons: 0.6% CFR
    French speaking cantons: 1.4% CFR
    Italian speaking cantons: 4.4% CFR
    Mortality rates seem to be lower in Germany as well. I have no explanation for that, and maybe later some scientists will figure it out. Did the virus travel up with Italians into the Italian speaking cantons? Which are closer to the French speaking cantons? About the only thing I can safely predict is that language won’t be the variable.
     

    The Matterhorn and other big mountains lie between the Italian and German speaking Swiss cantons. They have lots of tunnels, but still …

  108. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @ScarletNumber
    Lakewood is up there with Kiryas Joel, New York, in terms of how being overrun with Orthodox Jews can be ruinous to a community. This isn't the first time the Orthodox Jewish population has caused problems for everyone else in town. They walk the streets like they own them. This wouldn't be so bad if they looked both ways before they crossed, but they don't.

    The crappy old non-road worthy cars the Lubavitch would drive on Rt 9 between Brooklyn and Lakewood could get other drivers killed.

    Lubavitch would never allow members to have late model cars.

  109. anonymous[255] • Disclaimer says:
    @Buffalo Joe
    827 , Sorry, but I meant the fact that Civil Defense emergency supplies, which were everywhere in my youth, are gone. And in Puerto Rico, where supplies had been sent and warehoused, the government did not distribute them to the people. And. as an aside, was my school desk really adequate protection from a nuclear blast?

    “was my school desk really adequate protection from a nuclear blast?”

    Not if it was right next that room-length bank of windows, Mr. Joe.

  110. Anonymous[176] • Disclaimer says:
    @Reg Cæsar
    That's the SLR. He also got one of these, which I still have:


    https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/w7kAAOSwW~FcU17X/s-l400.jpg


    I spy! If you can still get film...

    You can get the film itself but not the cassettes it has to be loaded in.

  111. @ScarletNumber
    Lakewood is up there with Kiryas Joel, New York, in terms of how being overrun with Orthodox Jews can be ruinous to a community. This isn't the first time the Orthodox Jewish population has caused problems for everyone else in town. They walk the streets like they own them. This wouldn't be so bad if they looked both ways before they crossed, but they don't.

    Lakewood is up there with Kiryas Joel, New York, in terms of how being overrun with Orthodox Jews can be ruinous to a community.

    I grew up near Lakewood and have known it since the early ’60s. The Orthodox were not ruinous to it – they came into it because it was already in steep decline and there was cheap space available. If anything, they have revitalized it. If they had not taken up the slack it would be been filled with blacks or Hispanics – in fact it already was and the Orthodox pushed them out to some extent. You are confusing cause and effect.

    The economy of Lakewood was at one time based on winter resort hotels (with a largely Jewish (but not especially ultra-Orthodox) clientele coming by rail, bus or car from NYC) – a sort of Catskills south (Kiryas Joel is in the foothills of the Catskills – not a coincidence). Lakewood, (slightly) south of NYC ,was thought to have a (slightly) warmer climate than NYC in the winter. Jay Gould and John D. Rockefeller had vacation homes (estates) there. But once it became possible to take a quick flight to Florida, these hotels were doomed and someone had to move in to fill the vacuum.

    It’s true that they seem to cross the streets without looking but if that’s the worst you can say about them, it’s not very bad. When was the last time you got mugged by a Hasid?

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @ScarletNumber
    Jay Gould's son George had an estate in Lakewood built in 1899. After he died in 1923, it was purchased by the Sisters of Mercy and turned into Georgian Court College, an all-female college. It became a university in 2004 and became coed in 2013.
  112. Do you feel that the enemies of liberty are trying to get you biologically as well? If you really need to go out, tell them to stop their biological warfare with this modern version of the Gadsden flag. And keep washing them hands.

    https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-tst-dont-sneeze-on-me-morale-patch/64119

  113. One state just banned reusable shopping bags to fight coronavirus

    New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu announced last week that reusable bags will be temporarily banned during the COVID-19 outbreak, and that all retail stores will be required to use single-use paper or plastic bags.

    “Our grocery store workers are on the front lines of COVID-19, working around the clock to keep New Hampshire families fed,” said Sununu, a Republican, in a statement announcing the executive order. “With identified community transmission, it is important that shoppers keep their reusable bags at home given the potential risk to baggers, grocers and customers.”

    https://grist.org/climate/one-state-just-banned-reusable-shopping-bags-due-to-covid-19/

    On March 25, Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker announced that residents would not be allowed to use reusable shopping bags as part of the state’s efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus. The same day, Boston’s mayor lifted the plastic bag restriction in the city, When shoppers use store-provided plastic or paper bags, they will no longer be subjected to the mandated five-cent surcharge. More than 100 municipalities in the state have regulations on the use of single use plastic bags.

    https://prairiestatewire.com/stories/528802654-states-reconsider-use-of-plastic-bags-during-novel-coronavirus-outbreak

    The People’s Republic of Illinois apparently has Gov. “Jelly Belly” Pritzker stating a similar ban on reusable bags.

    • Replies: @epebble
    Here in Oregon, there is no government ban; The stores are doing it themselves for the safety of their workers. Some, like Best Buy, are moving to shop online and pick up in parking lot mode. My auto repair shop has a pick up and drop off service.
  114. You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.

    You jest, but I hoarded coffee in February. A month’s worth of K-cups, another two months of preground, and two more of whole beans. Each fallback trading convenience for longevity.

    Perhaps you think that is too much coffee for one household. Perhaps you are a fool.

    • Replies: @donvonburg
    You, sir, are the Mormon of Coffee. If coffee were permitted by the Word of Wisdom, Mormons would all have pounds and pounds of it in their pantry.

    As it is they have hot chocolate. Mr. 427 turned me on to Mormon hot chocolate. If you like hot chocolate, look up the Mormon commissary in your town and get an order from them. It is the best you can buy anywhere.

    https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/self-reliance/home-storage-centers?lang=eng
  115. Freezing time, preparing for the future: The stockpile as a temporal matter of security

    Stockpiling enabled the emergence of the earliest states by establishing the means to store surpluses and centralize power. In modernity, stores became more dispersed as money, commodity exchange and new infrastructures made it possible to procure resources through circulation. In the 20th century, stockpiling became a reflexive security device reactive to risks associated with the disruption of these circulations. Finally, the article illuminates the role of reserves in contemporary German catastrophe preparedness to show that stockpiling remains an important security technique. Yet fiscal austerity and budgetary constraints limit security stockpiling. To compensate for the absence of public security stores, the government is prompting citizens to establish emergency stockpiles.

    28 litres of water; 5.6 kg of grain, bread, potatoes, pasta and rice; 5.6 kg of vegetables and legumes; 3.6 kg of fruit and nuts; 3.7 kg of milk and dairy products; 2.1 kg of meat, fish and eggs; 0.5 kg of fats and oils. According to the emergency stockpile checklist issued by the German Federal Office of Civil Protection and Disaster Assistance (BBK, 2017b), this is the amount of food needed to survive a two-week food shortage. The list had been around for a couple of years, but it became a matter of public concern in August 2016 after the federal government adopted a new ‘concept for civil defence’ that advised citizens to assemble an ‘individual food supply’ (BMI, 2016: 47) and to store water (BMI, 2016: 46) and medication (BMI, 2016: 49) for emergency situations. Federal Minister of the Interior Thomas de Maiziere presented the report after a series of fatal terrorist attacks took place throughout Europe. Public commentators and members from the opposition parties accused the government of fearmongering, since a catastrophe scenario entailing a prolonged period of food scarcity seemed highly unlikely (Eubel, 2016).

    Indeed, the encounter between ‘one of the most archaic means of written enumeration and classification’ (De Goede and Sullivan, 2016: 67) – the list – and one of the most archaic means of accumulating things – the stockpile1 – evokes a certain uncanniness, because it is as familiar as grocery shopping and, considering the prospect of disaster, deeply disconcerting at the same time. But what is wrong with stockpiling survival equipment? Does the issuing of governmental advice constitute fearmongering, or is it an act of individualizing collective risks by making each citizen responsible for his or her own survival in a catastrophe? Can the ancient practice of stockpiling still provide security amid the threat ecology of the present, or is it just a pacifier for the fears of the population? This article addresses these questions. It will analyse the role of stockpiling as a security device by unpacking its peculiar temporal ontology, tracing its long and changing history, and illuminating its utilization in contemporary German catastrophe preparedness.

    https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/0967010619868385

  116. @Joe Stalin

    One state just banned reusable shopping bags to fight coronavirus

    New Hampshire Governor Chris Sununu announced last week that reusable bags will be temporarily banned during the COVID-19 outbreak, and that all retail stores will be required to use single-use paper or plastic bags.

    “Our grocery store workers are on the front lines of COVID-19, working around the clock to keep New Hampshire families fed,” said Sununu, a Republican, in a statement announcing the executive order. “With identified community transmission, it is important that shoppers keep their reusable bags at home given the potential risk to baggers, grocers and customers.”

    https://grist.org/climate/one-state-just-banned-reusable-shopping-bags-due-to-covid-19/

     


    On March 25, Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker announced that residents would not be allowed to use reusable shopping bags as part of the state’s efforts to slow the spread of the coronavirus. The same day, Boston’s mayor lifted the plastic bag restriction in the city, When shoppers use store-provided plastic or paper bags, they will no longer be subjected to the mandated five-cent surcharge. More than 100 municipalities in the state have regulations on the use of single use plastic bags.

    https://prairiestatewire.com/stories/528802654-states-reconsider-use-of-plastic-bags-during-novel-coronavirus-outbreak
     
    The People's Republic of Illinois apparently has Gov. "Jelly Belly" Pritzker stating a similar ban on reusable bags.

    Here in Oregon, there is no government ban; The stores are doing it themselves for the safety of their workers. Some, like Best Buy, are moving to shop online and pick up in parking lot mode. My auto repair shop has a pick up and drop off service.

  117. Anonymous[288] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    I get the feeling the German-speaking Cantons are the uber-organized ones who are behind all this planning.

    I doubt it. The Swiss are one ethnic group divided by language. Historically, the German cantons were small farm peasants and herdsmen with a very backward peasant illiterate culture.

    The French cantons were manufacturing, especially high end, international trade and commerce. People like Jacques Coure , the von Taxis und Thurns and Fuggers had branches of their businesses in the French cantons as early as the 13 and 14th centuries. Watches were invented in Geneva in the 1520s. The first banques and burses were in the French Cantons. Even religion, the German traditionalist, illiterate peasants kept mostly catholic while the more educated and progressive French cantons became puritans during the reformation. Because they could read the Bible in either catholic Latin or Protestant french

    The German cantons were very poor until the 1870s . That’s when the wealthy English tourists discovered scenery and mountain sport tourism. Prior to that tourism was mainly to cities for architecture, art, music, libraries, religion, high culture. No one went to tiny hillbilly villages to look at mountains before the mid 19th century.

    They are all Germans, mostly the old Helvetian tribe.

    Switzerland does have powerful self governing cantons. But the national government rules absolutely. The Swiss are very conformist. They love rules and regulations. Like Asians, they have a snitch culture. Like Asians they have ways of forcing conformity on neighbors.

    They are all the same mostly Helvetian German ethnicity.

  118. Yes, but in Switzerland’s case they really are watching themselves; there is no us vs. them, it’s all uses. If you are a them, you do not belong in Switzerland, not permanently anyway. As in Japan, or, dare one say it, Israel, you know this on a certain level: you are welcome to visit if you behave okay, but you dasn’t get out of line: and you will be going home, sooner or later.

    Every people should have their own Switzerland. What, after all, is Israel but Switzerland for Jews? What, after all, is Japan but Switzerland for Japanese?

    The Boer mistakenly thought ZA was his Switzerland, but there were too few of him and too many non-Swiss. Of course the Brits, the Jews, the Coloured, the various tribes of blacks all hated Afrikaner-Suisse. Human nature really. The Boer is paying a high price now.

  119. @Michael S

    You can’t win a modern war without caffeine.
     
    You jest, but I hoarded coffee in February. A month's worth of K-cups, another two months of preground, and two more of whole beans. Each fallback trading convenience for longevity.

    Perhaps you think that is too much coffee for one household. Perhaps you are a fool.

    You, sir, are the Mormon of Coffee. If coffee were permitted by the Word of Wisdom, Mormons would all have pounds and pounds of it in their pantry.

    As it is they have hot chocolate. Mr. 427 turned me on to Mormon hot chocolate. If you like hot chocolate, look up the Mormon commissary in your town and get an order from them. It is the best you can buy anywhere.

    https://providentliving.churchofjesuschrist.org/self-reliance/home-storage-centers?lang=eng

  120. HA says:
    @Anon
    I sort of wish one modern nation would run with the herd immunity approach so we can compare results after its over. Probably not gonna happen though. If we had that info, along with the age/mortality breakdown, then we might know who to hide at home and who to keep on working (under 30?) if something similar happened a decade down the road?

    I also kinda would like to see the "prescribe that malaria drug" when they got it early on approach vs. us also. Again, prolly not gonna happen.

    “I sort of wish one modern nation would run with the herd immunity approach so we can compare results after its over. Probably not gonna happen though.”

    Mexico, Brazil, Sweden have got you covered.

    For background, on March 4, López Obrador responded to news of the global spread of the coronavirus by telling Mexicans, “This idea that you can’t hug. You have to hug. Nothing happens.”

    .

    I’m guessing all those #coronahoax posts are coming from readers who DO want America to turn into Brazil, or Mexico, or Sweden. Otherwise, I’m not really sure what they’re on about.

  121. @Lot
    You know I favor zero afro/islam migration and eugenic natalism too. I don’t think the Swiss migration situation is quite that bad right now.

    Per Wikipedia, 3.1% of the population was born in Asia, Africa, or Latin America. Some of them may be upper class white Latins and white SAs. That’s doesn’t include 2nd gens, or “Germans” who are Turkish ancestry etc.

    But all-around they are probably the wealthy western nation with the lowest share of third world migrants, and also have populist anti-Islamification laws like a burka and miranet bans. Very conservative rural areas have disproportionate political power too.

    I suppose then they get an A+ if you grade them on a Western Euro curve, not otherwise.

    Lot — No doubt Switzerland isn’t France.

    But from the same Wikipedia article — Religions

    Muslim adherents:
    Over 65 — 1.1%
    45-64 — 4.2%
    25-64 — 7.5%
    18-25 — 8.3%

    Actual Swiss girls aren’t outbreeding Muslims, and Muslims are still coming.

    This does not “get better”.

  122. @Marty
    Wanna know what’s out of stock everywhere? Baking powder.

    Baking powder = two parts cream of tartar to one part baking soda.

  123. @Buffalo Joe
    827 , Sorry, but I meant the fact that Civil Defense emergency supplies, which were everywhere in my youth, are gone. And in Puerto Rico, where supplies had been sent and warehoused, the government did not distribute them to the people. And. as an aside, was my school desk really adequate protection from a nuclear blast?

    Right, but the gov’t provided the Civil Defense stuff in the first place, so the problem isn’t gov’t per se, it’s bad gov’t, right? You want gov’t of 1950’s, not private sector of 2020

  124. @Charon
    Yeah, somehow those of us who are relatively careful about how we live our lives and even about taking precautions and planning for eventualities--we're not being laughed at any more. Go figure.

    I wore a mask and eye protection to the store the other day. I was laughed or scoffed at no fewer than ten times. Granted I don’t live in an identified hotspot (yet). They’ll see…

  125. @william munny
    OT

    https://www.thelakewoodscoop.com/news/2020/03/njsp-colonel-patrick-callahan-on-lakewood-vast-majority-of-the-community-understands-the-importance-of-social-distancing-and-are-complying-with-the-executive-order.html

    NJ is prioritizing fighting antisemitism. People are getting angry because the orthodox community in Lakewood has continued having weddings despite the lockdown. They are going after people venting online about it. Governor Murphy said there is a special place in Hell for the people pointing out how the community is endangering everyone

    The State Police colonel explained that one case was a misunderstanding. In what might seem to be an antisemitic plotline, he explained that they thought that they could comply with the lockdown by designating a specified number of wedding guests per yard on the block.

    Orthodox Jews all over the world are ignoring instructions: Large funeral processions in Israel, ‘secret synagogues’ in homes in Australia, corona running amok in their communities in New York. They think they above the law.

  126. @Jack D

    Lakewood is up there with Kiryas Joel, New York, in terms of how being overrun with Orthodox Jews can be ruinous to a community.
     
    I grew up near Lakewood and have known it since the early '60s. The Orthodox were not ruinous to it - they came into it because it was already in steep decline and there was cheap space available. If anything, they have revitalized it. If they had not taken up the slack it would be been filled with blacks or Hispanics - in fact it already was and the Orthodox pushed them out to some extent. You are confusing cause and effect.

    The economy of Lakewood was at one time based on winter resort hotels (with a largely Jewish (but not especially ultra-Orthodox) clientele coming by rail, bus or car from NYC) - a sort of Catskills south (Kiryas Joel is in the foothills of the Catskills - not a coincidence). Lakewood, (slightly) south of NYC ,was thought to have a (slightly) warmer climate than NYC in the winter. Jay Gould and John D. Rockefeller had vacation homes (estates) there. But once it became possible to take a quick flight to Florida, these hotels were doomed and someone had to move in to fill the vacuum.

    It's true that they seem to cross the streets without looking but if that's the worst you can say about them, it's not very bad. When was the last time you got mugged by a Hasid?

    Jay Gould’s son George had an estate in Lakewood built in 1899. After he died in 1923, it was purchased by the Sisters of Mercy and turned into Georgian Court College, an all-female college. It became a university in 2004 and became coed in 2013.

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