With Karen Bass, an obscure L.A. Congresswoman, starting to fade in the Biden Veep hunt due to her Fidel Castro-worship likely being inconvenient in the purple state of Florida, the two most prominent Black Women left appear to be Obama Administration foreign policy maven Susan Rice and California Senator Kamala Harris.
Neither appear to be close to 50% sub-Saharan by DNA.
Harris is half Tamil and her Stanford economics professor father is from the Malcolm Gladwellish mulatto middle-class of Jamaica. (Rice is also half-Jamaican.)
Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son, the president of the Stanford Young Republicans, is pale (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).
She is from W.E.B. Du Bois’ Talented Tenth (or, more likely, Talented One Percent).
Rice isn’t an absurd choice for VP. Unfortunately, her track record is poor: Libya, 2011. From Wikipedia:
As the 2011 Libyan Civil War progressed, the United States and its allies offered a choice for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and his aides: step down from power or face an international response. Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, criticizing his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as “frankly, delusional”.[55] In a closed-door Security Council meeting in April 2011, Rice reportedly stated that Gaddafi loyalists engaged in atrocities, including terrorizing the population with sexual violence, and that Gaddafi’s troops has been issued Viagra.[56] Together with National Security Council figure Samantha Power, who already supported the U.S.-led military intervention in Libya, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who came to support it, the three overcame internal opposition from Defense Secretary Robert Gates, security adviser Thomas E. Donilon, and counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, to have the administration advance a UN proposal to impose a no-fly zone over Libya and authorize other military actions as necessary.[18][57]
On March 17, 2011, the UK, France and Lebanon joined the U.S. to vote for United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 while Brazil, Germany, and India joined permanent Security Council members China and Russia in abstaining. Rice and Clinton played major roles in gaining approval for the resolution.[18][58] Clinton said the same day that establishing a no-fly zone over Libya would require the bombing of air defenses. Rice said, “we are interested in a broad range of actions that will effectively protect civilians and increase the pressure on the Gaddafi regime to halt the killing and to allow the Libyan people to express themselves in their aspirations for the future freely and peacefully”.[59]
The No-Fly Zone obviously meant that the mighty U.S. was committed to the overthrow and murder (as it turned out, by sodomization) of Col. Qadaffi. In turn, the murder of Gadaphee, who had made a deal with Italy’s Berlusconi to reduce sub-Saharan migration thru the Mediterranean, led to to the ensuing migrant crisis.
So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic.
On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.
In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.


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Off-topic. New in the chronicles of “genetics have nothing to do with the higher rate of black etc people dying, it is all white racism’s fault”.
This woman is a professor of clinical epidemiology at University College London…
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/08/the-virus-piggybacked-on-racism-why-did-covid-19-hit-bame-families-so-hard
In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.
Kamala Sutra. Horizontal Harris. Are we still allowed to use the word ‘mistress’ in our brave new world? Or is it passé?
Kamala had the honorable position of Willie’s Chief Mistress (maîtresse-en-titre), not one of his side pieces (petites maîtresses).
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https://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/fullsizeoutput_af5.jpegReplies: @bruce county
It’s the ADOSs driving the bus, which is why all these other pseudo-blacks and other PoCs, like Fauxcahontas, aren’t gaining any traction.
Ladies and gentlemen, the 47th President if the United Tates … President Stacey Abrams.
? Redundancy?
When the likes of Harris and Rice are described as “moderates”, it’s looking more and more like the best we can hope for is Mensheviks.
Susan Rice? If you want a black female “neo-con”, why not Condoleeza Rice then. At least she plays piano well. Con dolcezza.
>On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.
Yeah, and I’d much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn’t translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.
It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan’s clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won’t mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.
As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.
Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn't the web wonderful?Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps
On our more immediate question of Biden's choice of VP—and therefore the unelected President of the United States as Biden's senility becomes unhidable—in the choice between the clueless wonk Rice versus spiteful and vicious Harris, Rice may be the lesser of two evils. OTOH, Rice's well-meaning demeanor may create an undesirable Obama Effect, where a pseudo-mild exterior cloaks and succors especially wicked policies. Harris has the dubious virtue of disguising her nastiness poorly.Replies: @sayless, @John Derbyshire
This was humiliating to Russia on many levels, and they have never forgotten it.Replies: @Matt Buckalew
(I like the Q name, not G; he is about the only major nation leader whose name was constantly being spelled differently in the western media, though not usually in the same article.)
It was okay but I recommended our oil drilling business leave asap on my last visit. Six months later Qaddafi kicked out all of the Americans.
One thing stood out. On departing the Tripoli airport you passed through a non functional scanner. No one checked your carry on or performed any kind of security check other than passport/visa. The secret police (or so they seemed) were even helpful. No one was hijacking aircraft out of Tripoli.
Hillary and S. Rice screwed that place up royally, like Bush did with Iraq. "Better the devil you know..."
Rice is preferable to Harris, though she is not really ideal.
Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.
Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.
Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.
Both seem perfectly pleasant people, who, if our political culture was healthier, would adequately pursue reasonable policies.
Both Harris and Rice are biracial. Just like Obama. Yet the MSM always refers to them as black (or now, Black.) Obama was the "first biracial president" (though some argue otherwise) not the first "black/Black" president.
It's like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.
Kinda makes you think...Replies: @Mario Partisan, @Flip
Ain’t it funny ,three women wanted war and three men didn’t……they’ll never buy the movie rights to that.
I’m sure her marriage is stable since she’s obviously a lesbian. Wonder if she’s going to spend the next two months in the tanning booth to dispel any doubt of her POC-ness.
All you need to know about Rice: She was the African desk at State when the Rwanda Genocide occurred. Except that she told Clinton not to say that because then the US might be obligated to do something about it.
Immediately invaded a land-locked country in deepest Africa that nobody had heard of, and suddenly control all ground at the village level to keep squads of machete wielding lunatics apart?
Who was good and who was bad and how could an American tell the difference so as to know which one to shoot?
Seems like Rice at least had the sense of scale and humility to accept when something couldn't be done.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
I never closely followed the soap opera on this, but wasn’t that the CHEMICAL warfare program?
It was all show and no talk and a marriage made in hell: The West could tell its plebes that Ghaddafi had rallied in the Big Disarmement and Anti-Proliferation effort, Ghaddafi could look both magnanimous & musucular enough to actually command a “weapons of mass destruction program”, however nonexistent.
Of course, never cut a deal with the Empire. Unlike the Mafia, they don’t keep their word.
Adam Curtis on this:
“HyperNormalisation (2016 + subs) by Adam Curtis – A different experience of reality FULL DOCUMENTARY” from 1:51.17
Susan Rice has another problem: She’s either so rabidly anti-Russia that she will be licking that Red Button as soon as possible or will say anything to get a political leg up. Both are not good.
Susan Rice makes claim Russians could be behind violent George Floyd demonstrations
“National Security Council figure Samantha Power”
I misread that as
“National Sexuality Council figure Samantha Power”
Do I need to get my mind out of the gutter or what’s going on?
The Undertaker faces off against Kamala in a Coffin Match
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292617000443949061
https://twitter.com/mitongafur/status/1292611462830096387Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910
Her … son, the president of the Stanford …
He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?
Herbert Hoover was … probably the most accomplished [man] who ever inhabited the White House
Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn’t the web wonderful?
I also never knew until yesterday that Hoover's VP, Charles Curtis, was a half-breed Kansan. So Faith Spotted Eagle was only the second "Native American" to receive an electoral vote. (And the fourth woman. Unless the states reported in reverse order in 2017; in that case, she'd be the third.)Curtis was also the last VP or POTUS to be born in a territory. Obama missed by three years.
Charles Curtis: America’s Indian Vice PresidentCharles Curtis - Kansapedia - Kansas Historical SocietyMathematical Treasure: James A. Garfield's Proof of the Pythagorean Theorem1928, 1932, 1936, 1976, 1996-- any other years with a Kansan on a major ticket?Oh, yeah... I always forget which Abilene Ike was from!
Well said, Nebulafox, and spot on. Let us also not forgot these vile words by one of the authors of the Libya mess, the odious HRC.
Susan Rice’s father is Emmett Rice, he’s been dead for almost 10 years. He was an economist and was on the Fed Reserve Board.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_J._Rice
Susan Rice’s mother is Lois Rice born in Portland Maine to Jamaican parents. She is considered one of the first black women to serve on corporate boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Rice
http://www.pvamu.edu/tiphc/wp-content/uploads/sites/107/lois-rice.jpg
She is an absurd choice but not unusually absurd.
Steve,
Your statement that Harris served “in various positions under master politician Willie Brown” is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/Willie-Brown-Kamala-Harris-should-say-no-to-vice-15468145.phpReplies: @Almost Missouri
Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren
Please let’s give Steve a little credit, shall we?
Not Michelle O?
The fact that Barack has to be dragged with a rope to have a single staged, professionally-produced "chat" with the geriatric Biden is one of the things I like about him. The Obamas to their credit don't seem all that interested in DC politics any more.
No, Libya is exactly the sort of small powerless country the US should be able to kick around, and the Middle East is no longer important anyway. The danger with Rice is she considers Russia to be, as she recently put it, “our arch-adversary”. In power, for she would in effect be being appointed president for three years at least, Rice will keep hammering away at the Russians supporting the Republicans. The attitude to Russia in foreign policy would be hostile.
America simply has to bring Russia on board a Western grand alliance. Annoying though the Russians are, we need them. China is not going to attack Russia like Hitler did; we need to inveigle them away from China. A professional diplomat is going to find it easy to sidestep the real emergency to do an end run into a new cold war with Russia. While there may be a cold war with China too, the the West simply couldn’t have been buried by the USSR, so the stakes were actually very low, and the most fateful phase of of the confrontation between the US and USSR was anti communist Nixon bringing China into the World Bank system where it got capital for a economic blast off. In a nutshell, Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden’s VP pick.
Russia is never, ever going to sign on to a plan like that. Which, incidentally, is why the US 'Establishment' is at war with Russia nowadays.Replies: @Stan
Kamala is also married to a White Jewish (2 strikes) guy.
In addition to her long-standing John McCain-esque support for whatever policy produces the most bodies such as in Libya, Gilad Atzmon has a write-up reminding of her role in the very recent oft-forgotten most bloody war of the post-WW2 era as well as Sudan. (Another neocon obsession)
https://gilad.online/writings/2016/6/23/hollow-women-of-the-hegemon-part-ii-atrocity-enabling-harpies
It’s amazing how many of these paid sabbos goys there are.
Hindsight is going to make this one easy.
If Trump wins handily, even in a landslide, then the Democrats engineering Biden’s nomination becomes not explicable but obvious in its efficacy. It will have been the way for all concerned to put a period on this greatest of political scandals and allow the Democrats room to do a reset.
I put it this way because throughout 2016 I kept asking and never got an answer as to why the Democrats wanted the problem that was Hillary? As a Trump supporter who assessed that he would win as long as he did so by an Electoral College margin too large for them to steal back on election night, my greatest fear in the fall was the Democrats going to Plan B in the fall after her flop and twitch on 9/11.
Which brings us to why in the world is Biden their putative nominee and will they pull a ‘Torricelli’ before Election Day:
https://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/elec02.nj.s.torricelli.race/
I didn’t explicate any of the above because I don’t need to, anyone reasonably informed knows. Instead, per the subject of this post, it’s to suggest that the choice between Rice and ‘Heels Up’ Harris is really one of whether sailing poor Joe’s ship before Election Day is taken off the table to ensure it isn’t forced upon Biden’s handlers.
Rice cannot headline the Democrat ticket. At least not one that isn’t going to lose in a landslide. Selecting her means it’s Biden as nominee, come what may.
Conversely, Harris certainly can be swapped in as nominee for president. Indeed, I assume there’s a solid faction pushing for exactly that after their Potemkin Village convention nominates their Potemkin Village Idiot.
This explains what I believe is a massive struggle behind the Democrat curtain at the moment. Anointing Harris is likely a violation of side agreements made with Cuomo, Newsom and others that the Obama and Clinton factions won’t lock up control of the parry for this years and 2024’s election cycles, win or lose.
Choosing Rice also constrains, or at least complicates, whatever Barr has planned in the coming weeks (i.e. before September 4th) on the 2016 malefactions by the Obama Administration against Trump.
The process is somewhat complicated, but I will try to keep this short. A designated presidential or vice presidential nominee of the Democratic and Republican party is not a legal position, so any presidential selection rules don't apply. Only once the Electoral College (or relevant house of Congress in the event of a deadlock) elects a President and Vice President in December is Vice Presdient elect relevant if there is a presidential vacancy of some sort. If you have not been voted in by the Electoral College, you are neither the President nor Vice Presidential elect, so there is no legal requirement for you to be replaced.
If the Democrats nominate Biden, under the party by-laws, which are what is relevant, can designate another presidential nominee at any time before the Electoral College votes. Note that this is before the Electoral College vote, it can occur after ordinary voters have voted (for the Electors). This need not be whoever they have nominated for Vice President, who has nothing to do with this.
The only reason this comes up is that up until now, 1984 being the only possible exception, the political parties have been careful not to nominate obviously senile people for President. But if a party insists on doing this with the intention of doing a switcheroo later, they can do the switch for anyone up until the Electoral College votes. Whoever they nominate for Vice President is not important until then.
This election would follow the pattern, except the Donks are really overdoing it, and it seems that neither major party nominee are supposed to win the election.Replies: @MLK
Agree.
If Gaddafi was “delusional”, how does one characterize the pro-Mugabe author of The Commonwealth initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980 Implications for international peacekeeping? Ms. Rice seems to have a talent for taking middle-tier, functioning if unlovely countries, and turning them into violent basket case hellholes. Given that the US is currently descending into “middle-tier, functioning if unlovely” status, the Rice treatment may be the worst possible prescription.
Indeed, the entire record of the affirmative-action Obama administration’s three affirmative-action ladies (Clinton, Rice, Powers) is 100% disaster. Unmoored from any real world goals, the Three Horsewomen of the Apocalypse lurched from catastrophe to catastrophe, learning nothing, forgetting nothing, indulging in what Brendan O’Neill aptly called “war as therapy“.
On our more immediate question of Biden’s choice of VP—and therefore the unelected President of the United States as Biden’s senility becomes unhidable—in the choice between the clueless wonk Rice versus spiteful and vicious Harris, Rice may be the lesser of two evils. OTOH, Rice’s well-meaning demeanor may create an undesirable Obama Effect, where a pseudo-mild exterior cloaks and succors especially wicked policies. Harris has the dubious virtue of disguising her nastiness poorly.
If a Trump defeat is a foregone conclusion, then maybe Rice is the least harmful choice. Because of her past, a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions than would Harris. And because of her white goy husband and especially her right-wing son, maybe there’s a chance she doesn’t hate white people as much as most black Dem leaders (or most Dems in general).
I don't see Rice as any friend of ours.
Rice’s wild lies were really over the top. Who wants a congenital liar anywhere near them let alone in a position of authority? She was part of Obama’s stable of sadistic war loving women (at a distance of course). Harris is one of those resentful light skinned blacks who are doubly angry because they can never be white and join the white club. Biden really painted himself into a corner by saying he was going for a POC VP. With close to 47M blacks in the US it’s remarkable how one can count on one’s fingers the number who have any capability whatsoever for such a job and who don’t beat their chest 24/7 about being black.
As opposed to the white men who have done such a great job recently? Bush---Great Recession, Iraq
Trump---annual trillion dollar deficits, horrible pandemic response
Kamala Harris really didn’t become black until she went to Howard, an HBCU. The best I can tell, her father left home when she was two. Her parents were then separated by their careers as post-doctoral fellows (her dad had a series of stints in the mid-West while the mother was in San Francisco) until she was six, at which point they divorced. Then, she was raised in Montreal by her Indian brahmin mother and grandmother, until she finished high school.

Kamala Harris’ sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly.
Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign’s point of view.
It's fascinating that she appeared to get no traction with Blacks, especially the women. What happened there?Replies: @Bucky
Very clever description of “Heels Up” Harris. Interesting that both of these Jamaican ladies are married to white men. So they must be smarter than they look.
Rice clearly has done things right in her personal life (plus BA from Stanford and doctorate from Oxford not shabby), but I cannot forget her making a complete fool of herself during the Bengazi scandal. Lied, and when caught in the lie, lied again. Too funny that her son is an up-and-coming Republican leader and Trump supporter. Smart young man. I read where he was assaulted on campus for supporting Brett Kavanaugh, so he has guts.
“In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.”
I see what you did there, Steve!
Sour faced prune of the month.
Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren
It wasn’t intended as Freudian slip.
Bernie Sanders and maybe even Liz Warren, must be fuming. The dems proclaim that the VP must be a woman of color, thereby being the first Affirmative Action vice president. Bernie was running a good race, I liked him in the debates, and suddenly the black women voters of South Carolina annoint Joe the candidate. Strange in my opinion. America deserves better than this.
The sad fact is that much of the American electorate, across various identities, would rather vote for an empty suit who panders to their narcissism than for a candidate who talks policy to them. The latter kind actually turns a lot of them off as they feel they are being talked down to. The only part of your post I really tend to disagree with, though, is the last sentence:Does it really?Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren
Whoa, crazy!
On our more immediate question of Biden's choice of VP—and therefore the unelected President of the United States as Biden's senility becomes unhidable—in the choice between the clueless wonk Rice versus spiteful and vicious Harris, Rice may be the lesser of two evils. OTOH, Rice's well-meaning demeanor may create an undesirable Obama Effect, where a pseudo-mild exterior cloaks and succors especially wicked policies. Harris has the dubious virtue of disguising her nastiness poorly.Replies: @sayless, @John Derbyshire
If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.
You say this for effect. Well said.
But I have yet to read/hear of anyone regardless of politics who actually did emigrate from the US after an election.
Alec Baldwin and dozens of other crazed Hillaryites used to say that in 2015, yet they are all still here. Sadly. Some may still be repeating that lie.
So this is, regardless of intent, the rhetorical equivalent of shooting off blanks.
Washington state has two senators* Washington D.C. which Susan Rice wanted to be a senator for has zero. She is the perfect running mate for Joe.
* If we steal an s from somewhere and the name of Ottawa’s team Washington could have the Washington tReasons in the NfL. Spellchecks suggestion makes them appealing to Earth s Vulcan community.
I still think there’s a chance Biden won’t pick a woman (black or white) at all. He’ll pick former Gov. Deval Patrick (MA).
Blacks will only care that Patrick is black. White female Dems will grumble, but they have nowhere else to go – they are guided only by their hatred for Trump. Any white woman that grumbles too loudly will be called a “Karen”. And the media will of course call it a political masterstroke; no difficult questions, such as “Could you really find no qualified black female?”
The answer to that question is obvious.
Headlines everywhere this morning.
I think this one’s over.
Republicans could embarrass the Democrats by highlighting the Obama/Clinton/Rice disaster in Libya where 40,000 black lives were killed as Africa’s most prosperous state was destroyed. The “no fly zone” was used as cover for a massive bombing campaign since the imported jihadists mercenaries had failed to topple Libya’s popular government. This is why Russia later vetoed a “no fly zone” over Syria, but it’s bombed anyway.
Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren
Today Mayor Brown shows he’s not done carefully, sweetly, but firmly shaping the korse of Kamala’s kareer:
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/Willie-Brown-Kamala-Harris-should-say-no-to-vice-15468145.php
Maybe VP Harris wouldn't be so bad ... but then there's that heartbeat away thing.Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Sean
I read that headline and thought this was going to be about the two of them oiled in bikinis going at it in a steel cage death match.
I am VERY disappointed.
Kamala Harris' sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly. Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign's point of view.Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jesse, @Buffalo Joe, @Lurker
A black man abandoning his child? Are you sure that really happened, it seems pretty implausible to me?
Uncle Joe’s ‘state’ is a feature not a bug for TDS. Allows am affirmitard action prez – bypass voters for darky prrz, like (((laws))) bypass wishes of meritocrats in employing darkies in jobs their IQ is Too Low for.
A bit of the old who, whom–know wha’ I mean?
No doubt it has been extensively commented upon, but a Biden/Rice ticket is about establishment Dem as was possible in the current cycle. I wonder if this is a result of the party’s strategists calculating that the current sturm und drang doesn’t really mean more young voters at the polls but a reassuring moderate-appearing ticket will eat into the suburban vote enough to win the EC.
America has “deserved” better presidents than every one we’ve had since Eisenhower.
And if you look back with a critical eye it’s overall not a very impressive list period.
“Deserved” simply has very little to do with it. If we want better we have to get to work and demand better.
Every president since Ike has been a disaster.Replies: @Kronos, @Philip Owen
Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Flip, @Rob McX
I think you meant to write “Rice is also half-Jamaican.
I’ve seen Malcolm Gladwell on the street.
He is mucho tiny.
And if you look back with a critical eye it's overall not a very impressive list period.
"Deserved" simply has very little to do with it. If we want better we have to get to work and demand better.Replies: @Jane Plain, @Reg Cæsar, @throtler
100%.
Every president since Ike has been a disaster.
Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren
How does one know all of these positions were under Willie Brown?
In the actual historical timeline, Ga-daffi duck was helping block blacks from hitting the beach.
But still “led” strikes me as a bit strong. No nation should depend on another nation to secure its borders. Another nation may be helping, but if it fails a nation should always be capable of doing the job itself.
The Italian navy alone could wrap up the Mediterranean part of this “migrant crisis” trivially.
The problem is that Italian, European politicians lack the desire and will to stop this flood of blacks … because they’ve been pickled in American minoritarianism for 50+–no a core component of globo-homo.
Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren
How do you know the Kamala didn’t satisfy her cowgirl urges with Willie from time to time?
https://img.sharetv.com/shows/characters/thumbnails/corner_gas_the_movie_ca.hank_yarbo.jpg
https://66.media.tumblr.com/a125986cfed626fcd56c9a205d233501/tumblr_pbwz520ZMH1u5yhmto5_500.jpg
Coming from a Clinton Administration functionary, this is quite rich.
Or deeply cynical. I know what the Frenchman said, but sometimes it is malice, not incompetence.
What does the “Tamil Hammer” Mrs Emhoff have in common with Cleopatra, Charlemagne, Elizabeth I, Elizabeth II, Hirohito, Alexander the Great, John F Kennedy, and Donald Trump, and Berry Gordy?
As of yesterday, Matt Baker of Useful Charts has done a video of her family tree. Unfortunately, and most unlike his others, this one is larded with “social construct” boilerplate throughout the middle section. But the first three and last two minutes are factual accounts of her ancestry.
Useful Charts is particularly useful for those who wonder who’d be on the throne today had Washington been crowned rather than elected, or had the French, Russian, and Jacobean lines continued. There are more than one contender for each of these.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_J._Rice
Susan Rice’s mother is Lois Rice born in Portland Maine to Jamaican parents. She is considered one of the first black women to serve on corporate boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_RiceReplies: @syonredux, @Clyde
Make that the first Black-ish woman…..
The myth lives on. Jimmy Carter was widely hailed at the time as a nuclear engineer. That’s preposterous. Carter had been an officer in a conventional submarine. He had had no background in the new nuclear subs whatsoever but he wanted to fill out his resume to prepare for his next possible promotion. So he took a night course in something like a general survey course for business men who wanted to learn some nuclear energy terms. So his one survey night class at a junior college got inflated by his campaign staff to “Nuclear Engineer”.
White liberal women have got to be figuring out that they come dead last in the Democrat party
Why can’t Biden pick a white woman?
I think that’s what he should do.
The blacks got their freebies, it’s the liberal white women who are losing their minds.
Make THEM happy
Nurse RatchedGretchen Whitmer recently visited Biden at hisrest homehouse, reportedly to discuss her being the VP candidatehttps://apnews.com/65025dc16aa18353cf868658d9b2314a
None of the black women candidates help him win a swing-state. I guess the thinking is that
Ilsa She Wolf of the SSWhitmer might help the ticket win Michigan. That's assuming she hasn't pissed off enough white people in the state yet by decreeing that they can't use their motor-boats and declaring racism a public-heath emergency.In terms of facial morphology, I think that her daughter is slightly more SSA looking than the son.
https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/feature-12-1.jpg
See Robert Deniro's children. Even last year's Super Bowl-winning quarterback, a true alpha, looks "off" in the face to me.
Interesting, cause i don't think Susan Rice is an unattractive woman--high side of average--ok facial symmetry, nothing too weird going on. She's and her husband just didn't mix well--at least in terms of looks. (The son seems pretty cool in terms of figuring stuff out for himself. Betting would be daughter is a tedious SJW.)Replies: @LMD
On our more immediate question of Biden's choice of VP—and therefore the unelected President of the United States as Biden's senility becomes unhidable—in the choice between the clueless wonk Rice versus spiteful and vicious Harris, Rice may be the lesser of two evils. OTOH, Rice's well-meaning demeanor may create an undesirable Obama Effect, where a pseudo-mild exterior cloaks and succors especially wicked policies. Harris has the dubious virtue of disguising her nastiness poorly.Replies: @sayless, @John Derbyshire
The Three Horsegirls of the Libyan Apocalypse https://tinyurl.com/y2a5ubqs
At the time Treasure Island (the US Navy’s WWII artificial island in SF Bay) was said to have been run by Willie Brown’s girl friend. I never read her name or saw her picture. I think it must have been Harris but I’m not sure. Whoever she was, she took over the main residence and governed her own little island.
There still hasnt been a 100% Black male president or Veep. Obama was half-black and raised by a white extended family. The Freedom Train is now skipping over the black male and going for the (part) black female.
Castro worship vs. Bibi worship – which is worse?
On the Wall St. Journal “Editorial Report” tv show last weekend, the reporters discussed Rice’s knowingly and blatantly lying about Benghazi, and how she now refuses to answer questions about it. They then said that Rice will not get away with that refusal if she is the VP candidate. As is often the case, they omitted the “because….” One would expect them to follow up by saying something like “we consulted with some political scientists who specialize in these things, and they said that forthcomingness increases greatly once a politician becomes the actual candidate in a national election.” So the question remains in my mind..will she get away with evading explanations?
If she doesn't "get away with it", it will be because the Dems decided she had to go down. If the Dems decide she has to go down, it will also not matter whether or not she is actually guilty of any wrongdoing (but almost all Dems are, so that is not usually a problem.) The DNC is essentially an organized crime ring.
Washington was childless, but had John Adams somehow been able to get a hold of the throne, well, he’s had successful direct descendants that can be traced to our current time.
Also, Adams had respect for the law. Despite his strong disagreements with the Crown, he defended its interests in the Boston Massacre and the Tea Party. The rebels may have been right, but they had stepped over the line with their actions.Replies: @R.G. Camara
So both are of Jamaican high status mixed race heritage?
BTW, it appears that both, at times, appear to be quite fair skinned and Ms. Rice occasionally may darken her skin intentionally for intersectionality power points.
In other words, in a truly “white” society, where lighter skin gained privileges, both would endeavor to pass for white.
Serious question:
In modern times, has the American Black refusal to separate Black and Mullato/a into separate groups (as logic would dictate) been good or bad overall for Blacks and the country as a whole?
https://fox40jackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/103736/susan-rice-on-her-trump-supporting-son-i-love-him-dearly.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/14/19440860-7550115-image-m-20_1570541079591.jpgReplies: @anon, @Father Coughlin, @AnotherDad, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
Susan Rice’s son reminds me of someone or other. I’ll have to think for a minute, though.
This is all good fun. Democrat VP nominees have all been fairly solid managerial types the last couple decades. The one time they need that type as a backup to a somnambulant 78-year old, they reach deep into the affirmative action grab bag and come up with … a pound of air.
Do you really believe voters will care about Rice’s poor foreign policy decisions? Most Americans have probably never heard of Libya.
Kamala Harris' sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly. Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign's point of view.Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jesse, @Buffalo Joe, @Lurker
That picture explains a lot. Harris is White compared to Blacks, Indian compared to Whites, and visibly more SSA than the Indians. While she seems to get on better, personally, with rich, disproportionately White PMC types, she might’ve tried to do an Obama and find a racial community. And work to her advantage, of course.
It’s fascinating that she appeared to get no traction with Blacks, especially the women. What happened there?
She is childless which actually is quite problematic. She would be the first president since the late 1800's who is childless.
Not having biological children can make a person more extreme and ideological, and not possess the experience of compromise, coaxing, that comes with raising a child.
She is married to a white Jewish man.
Harris isn't really popular amongst the people. She is popular amongst DC professional women. She is an identity politics choice for them, and not the average black American.
All Dems get away with whatever the Dems want them to get away with.
If she doesn’t “get away with it”, it will be because the Dems decided she had to go down. If the Dems decide she has to go down, it will also not matter whether or not she is actually guilty of any wrongdoing (but almost all Dems are, so that is not usually a problem.) The DNC is essentially an organized crime ring.
Every president since Ike has been a disaster.Replies: @Kronos, @Philip Owen
A disaster in their own unique ways.
I didn’t know this, but I believe it. A pity, I always thought that Carter was probably the most honest president during my lifetime.
Neither of the two would add any votes. BTW is Rice in any potential jeopardy from the long-awaited Durham Report?
The Oligarchy does not need the President to make decisions. In an odd parody of Douglas Adams’s “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”, where an ignorant ruler made real decisions without realizing it, we have a more-or-less aware President who simply ratifies decisions made by others.
Judged by that standard, Susan Rice is an almost perfect candidate. I never believed that Susan Rice made the decisions leading to the Libyan civil war. She merely took responsibility for decisions made elsewhere. In other words, she did her job.
Susan Rice is a fairly intelligent, fairly black (edit: Black) woman who understands her role and who can be expected to do as she is told. By all appearances her personal life is above reproach, and she was an associate of the Beatified Barack Obama.
Yes, it might be better if her husband were black. (Editorial query: should this “black” be capitalized since it is a hypothetical description of a male who is actually white?) This, too, however, is not without advantages. A black (sorry: Black) man might believe he has the right to express his own opinions. A white male is under no such illusion.
Her Trump-supporting son could be an embarrassment, if he believes that he has inherited enough Black privilege, but surely he is young enough to control. Just surround him with Secret Service guards 24 & 7 and keep him away from all electronic devices. For that matter, although he is a Republican, in all likelihood, he is actually your typical Republi-Cuck. In that case, he might represent an attempt by his family to play both sides of the political equation – meaning that he, his father and his mother are all smart, pliable Machiavellians. Just the sort of people the Oligarchy can work with, in other words.
I will go out on a limb here, and predict that Susan Rice will get the nod for V.P. Kamala Harris seems like a shoo-in for Attorney General, though, assuming the Oligarchy can get their act together and curb stomp Donald Trump and the Deplorables this November.
And don’t forget, the Libyan fiasco also broke our word to Russia. At that time Russia was playing nice and had agreed to support an international no-fly zone on the condition that it was only to protect refugees. We double-crossed them by bombing Ghadaffi’s forces and disintegrating the whole country.
This was humiliating to Russia on many levels, and they have never forgotten it.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/Willie-Brown-Kamala-Harris-should-say-no-to-vice-15468145.phpReplies: @Almost Missouri
Brown Willie’s advice to Kamala is: skip the VP slot and go for the Attorney General’s office, so you can replace every US Attorney in the country with your own (partisan ideologue) choice, a power that she, unlike the Republicans, will certainly use.
Maybe VP Harris wouldn’t be so bad … but then there’s that heartbeat away thing.
BTW, Soros's takeover of state and city AG's has yielded big dividends in providing cover for the current Antifa/BLM uprisings.
I sympathize with your comment.
Unfortunately, it isn’t so strange. Bernie ran a campaign centered around left-populist policy themes. Creepy Joe was a good cracka who played second fiddle to Obama, and consequently his life-long career representing the true residents of DE, Master Card and Visa, was happily ignored. I have been to Wilmington a time or two and I have always had a feeling of sadness being in that city. That city epitomizes the nature of DNC-democrat rule: A corporate class and its servants presiding over a permanent black underclass. It’s almost like the old KKK democrats traded in their hoods for suits and carried on as usual in the new urban plantations.
The sad fact is that much of the American electorate, across various identities, would rather vote for an empty suit who panders to their narcissism than for a candidate who talks policy to them. The latter kind actually turns a lot of them off as they feel they are being talked down to. The only part of your post I really tend to disagree with, though, is the last sentence:
Does it really?
He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Buffalo Joe, @Sent from my iStevePhone
The only group more favored than blacks in elite college admissions are the children of high-ranking DC insiders. So with both boxes checked, fughettaboutit.
And we didn’t. Wow– she did something right!
Michelle is busy shopping, which is fine with me.
The fact that Barack has to be dragged with a rope to have a single staged, professionally-produced “chat” with the geriatric Biden is one of the things I like about him. The Obamas to their credit don’t seem all that interested in DC politics any more.
Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.
Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.
Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.Replies: @guest007, @Not Only Wrathful, @Muggles, @Bernard
Everyone should go back and read the stories about the Harris campaign. Senator Harris hired family members, failed to control her staff, and did not know what she was doing. Before that Harris had never competed in a competitive race but was elected due to be selected by the establishment. Harris is ambitious but not driven enough to achieve her goals.
drivensmart enough to achieve her goals.In DR3 fashion, some internet sleuths have done some digging about the Harris clan of Jamaica and learned that Harris’s High Yella Jamaican ancestors were plantation owners and slave owners. cf. 1957’s star-studded Island in the Sun featuring James Mason, Harry Belafonte, Joan Fontaine, and Dorothy Dandridge dealing with the subject of Jamaica’s racial caste system.
It’s quaint to think this matters in year zero to disqualify a left winger from anything. It’s a useful cudgel against, say, Mitch McConnell to say that his Virginian/Kentuckian ancestors owned a few slaves, but it’s not going to hobble Harris at all.
The prominence of Harris and Rice are further signs that the historical black American population is going through its own Hillbilly Elegy treatment. Looking at current black elites, a significantly disproportionate number of them have recent African, Caribbean, or biracial ancestry. How many Americans have an Afro/Indian ancestry similar to Harris’? A few hundred? A few dozen? People with backgrounds like George Floyd’s are useful to the elites to bleat on about racism, but they’re increasingly marginalized from the top ranks of power in favor of – and by – people with more exotic backgrounds.
To their credit, unlike their white counterparts, legacy black Americans don’t seem to be going down without a fight.
Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn't the web wonderful?Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps
Me too. Garfield, though, deserves points for having devised an original proof for the Pythagorean Theorem.
I also never knew until yesterday that Hoover’s VP, Charles Curtis, was a half-breed Kansan. So Faith Spotted Eagle was only the second “Native American” to receive an electoral vote. (And the fourth woman. Unless the states reported in reverse order in 2017; in that case, she’d be the third.)
Curtis was also the last VP or POTUS to be born in a territory. Obama missed by three years.
Charles Curtis: America’s Indian Vice President
Charles Curtis – Kansapedia – Kansas Historical Society
Mathematical Treasure: James A. Garfield’s Proof of the Pythagorean Theorem
1928, 1932, 1936, 1976, 1996– any other years with a Kansan on a major ticket?
Oh, yeah… I always forget which Abilene Ike was from!
They seem to never be able to find someone who’s 100 % Black and whose ancestors were actually American slaves.
I have faith in Joe Biden to pick the absolutely worst possible candidate. Even Stacey “Get Whitey” Abrams would be better than Rice.
So it will be Rice. Rice is an ACADEMIC. Like Pol Pot. Abimael Guzman of Shining Path. She’s highly likely to efficiently preside over genocide just to make sure her abstract principles of how society should act and who should comprise it becomes reality.
Harris is a corrupt whore, and like all corrupt whores filled with a terrible vengeance Madame Mao style, and would quickly ramp up the current Cultural Revolution to get rid of the four olds or whatever. It can always get worse however and Rice would certainly tell Pol Pot and the Interamhamwe “hold my beer.”
This was directed toward a comment by Hynotoad666. Don’t know why it didn’t take…
That, among other incidents, convinced the Russians that the United States was “not agreement-capable”, in other words complete liars, as the shallow assholes in charge decide to go back on agreements so often that it is reasonable to suppose that they never intended to honor them in the first place. This has lead to them believing that the US, as well as their compradors in their sphere, are contemptible. They are correct in this perception. Bad, bad mistake.
But then, these are the same US “elites” who still believe that the actual size of the Russian economy is equivalent to that of one mid-sized US state. Well, no, fuckwits, this is a nation that has worked assiduously to, in as many ways possible, attain autarchy in all credible measures of national power, especially in the realm of the military. Geez, where did all of those hypersonic cruise missiles come from? And howzabout the missile and electronic countermeasures knowhow that took out attacks on their bases in Syria? And that “moribund” shipbuilding industry that keeps laying down new keels, and upgrading existing, still viable warships to state of the art? Oh, and they are actually rather glad about all of those “crippling” sanctions that provided them with all the reason they needed to become more independent in areas such as agriculture and technology. Stupidity on a level with the US having gifted the Red Chinese with advanced technologies, and placed our national well-being at their mercy while surrendering industry after industry to them, compromising our self-dependence, and eliminating employment for millions – millions – of US workers through corporate labor arbitrage games.
This is a nation with whom we should be on proper, respectful terms. But no, some Jews bitter about something that may have happened more than 100 years ago in the long dead Russian Empire to their great great grandparents, and pissed that they got tossed out on their asses while trying to take over Russia and gain total control of their natural resources at the end of the Cold War, are doing all that they can to make this impossible. Spiteful wreckers.
The US defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems that enrich their executives, DC insiders, and flag-level officers while creating a spider-web of job sites across the US that are useful cudgels against any legislators that speak out about cutting wasteful spending on MIC pork programs.
As a result, Russia has a 10 year lead on the US in hypersonics. At the rate the US is going they will be lucky to field a vestigial hypersonic capability in 2024 or 2025. The Lockheed Martin HCSW, which was planned to be one of the US' major hypersonic programs, was outright canceled several months ago.
Russia also has the world's premier integrated air defense system, which has proven highly effective against the now dated Tomahawk cruise missile.Replies: @Father Coughlin
Maybe VP Harris wouldn't be so bad ... but then there's that heartbeat away thing.Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Sean
So what Soros has done on the non-Federal level, Harris will do on the Federal level. A truly frightening outcome!
BTW, Soros’s takeover of state and city AG’s has yielded big dividends in providing cover for the current Antifa/BLM uprisings.
He had stepchildren, and siblings and cousins with descendants. Any monarchist or student of monarchy– such as the Nova Scotia native who made that video– could easily find a ways to keep the throne Washingtonian.
Also, Adams had respect for the law. Despite his strong disagreements with the Crown, he defended its interests in the Boston Massacre and the Tea Party. The rebels may have been right, but they had stepped over the line with their actions.
That hurt Adams, and pushed him into the revolutionaries camp. He'd just demonstrated point-blank that the colonies were civilized, and the Crown refused to listen. If the Crown was going to be that deaf and pig-headed, armed rebellion(to Adams and people on the fence like Adams) now seemed the only way to get their attention or get them some rights.
Government foreign policy, like government education policy and all of its other policies, suck.
We don’t need foreign policy “mavens” (know-nothings or worse). We just need to follow the simple principles laid down by TJ: Commerce with all nations, alliances with none.
While I’m on the topic, allowing HRC to serve as SoS was a crime against humanity. How could any foreign dignitary possibly have looked forward to a “discussion” with her?
Downsize the State Dept! Trump needs to recall all of our ambassadors to s*hole countries, and close down our embassies (CIA substations) there.
Under the principle of throwing out Rosemary’s baby with the bath water, Trump should also turn off the lights at our embassies in Moscow, Beijing, London, and so forth.
The only US diplomat, who’s any good, is Rodman.
I agree. We should reduce our diplomatic foot-print. Fewer embassies and consulates, fewer visas issued.
I know I probably sound like a battered spouse, but I’m hoping that a Rice VP candidacy might induce Trump-Pence to go hard anti-war.
Maybe VP Harris wouldn't be so bad ... but then there's that heartbeat away thing.Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Sean
It is now so inevitable that it will be Harris that the Dems are trying to create a bit of mystery, but there is no one else that Biden can pick really. Biden isn’t going to die, and he has not even officially said he will not try for a second term. But:-
One of the aneurysms ruptured which it is unusual to recover from completely. A third of survivors are left with major neurologic deficits that often show up while trying to find the right words. I would say it is quite likely he will cease to be president at 80 years old, because everyone is on the lookout for senility in him, and he is already so diminished by the damage he suffered in 1988, that 24 month of normal aging will leave him unable to even deliver simple speeches. Rice lacks political skills, allies, and experience and her white spouse will not win her supporters. So get used to saying it: President Harris.
https://youtu.be/HagVnWAeGcM?t=95Replies: @R.G. Camara, @RadicalCenter
I was just about to say—that kid looks like he’s in a Mr. Bean look-alike contest.
Also, Adams had respect for the law. Despite his strong disagreements with the Crown, he defended its interests in the Boston Massacre and the Tea Party. The rebels may have been right, but they had stepped over the line with their actions.Replies: @R.G. Camara
Despite Adams’s overwhelming victories in the Boston Massacre trial for the British soldiers—demonstrating that British soldiers could receive fair trials in the colonies— the Crown still passed a law that stated that British officials and soldiers had to have all future trials in England, not the colonies.
That hurt Adams, and pushed him into the revolutionaries camp. He’d just demonstrated point-blank that the colonies were civilized, and the Crown refused to listen. If the Crown was going to be that deaf and pig-headed, armed rebellion(to Adams and people on the fence like Adams) now seemed the only way to get their attention or get them some rights.
He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Buffalo Joe, @Sent from my iStevePhone
deari, remember privilege only pertains to Whites, although Susan Rice’s life is enviable.
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Altai, “Great Lakes Region of Africa” as in Rochester, Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Cleveland,Detroit, Chicago and Milwaukee. That part of Africa?
Kamala Harris' sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly. Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign's point of view.Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jesse, @Buffalo Joe, @Lurker
Pilt, “…she may be a Senator.” Kirsten Gillibrand is a Senator, as is Barbara Boxer,Diane Feinstein and a dozen or so more lightweights. Sad.
You just reminded me of a funny exchange from “The Honeymooners.” After a long harangue from Alice about the way men act so badly, Ralph retorts thusly: ” Oh but you women get even! You get even! You MARRY US! ”
I don’t see Rice as any friend of ours.
Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.
Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.
Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.Replies: @guest007, @Not Only Wrathful, @Muggles, @Bernard
Harris was a good Attorney General of California. She tackled crime. Rice was a poor NSA. She got her big decisions all wrong.
Both seem perfectly pleasant people, who, if our political culture was healthier, would adequately pursue reasonable policies.
What could the US have done?
Immediately invaded a land-locked country in deepest Africa that nobody had heard of, and suddenly control all ground at the village level to keep squads of machete wielding lunatics apart?
Who was good and who was bad and how could an American tell the difference so as to know which one to shoot?
Seems like Rice at least had the sense of scale and humility to accept when something couldn’t be done.
“Brown challenged her, often stretching her comfort zone. Eventually though, after many long, hard hours, she learned to attack challenges head on, and developed a firm grasp of the tools needed to succeed and overcome the ups and downs she would inevitably encounter in the fluid situations into which Brown repeatedly thrust her.”
Just helping out a little (sorry about plagiarizing Steve’s “long and hard” line). You guys can take it from here.
This was humiliating to Russia on many levels, and they have never forgotten it.Replies: @Matt Buckalew
Good-Russia has spend a millennia not standing by its agreements. America firsters don’t care about Putin getting scammed in a diplomatic 3 card monte game.
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If Trump wins handily, even in a landslide, then the Democrats engineering Biden's nomination becomes not explicable but obvious in its efficacy. It will have been the way for all concerned to put a period on this greatest of political scandals and allow the Democrats room to do a reset.
I put it this way because throughout 2016 I kept asking and never got an answer as to why the Democrats wanted the problem that was Hillary? As a Trump supporter who assessed that he would win as long as he did so by an Electoral College margin too large for them to steal back on election night, my greatest fear in the fall was the Democrats going to Plan B in the fall after her flop and twitch on 9/11.
Which brings us to why in the world is Biden their putative nominee and will they pull a 'Torricelli' before Election Day:
https://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/elec02.nj.s.torricelli.race/
I didn't explicate any of the above because I don't need to, anyone reasonably informed knows. Instead, per the subject of this post, it's to suggest that the choice between Rice and 'Heels Up' Harris is really one of whether sailing poor Joe's ship before Election Day is taken off the table to ensure it isn't forced upon Biden's handlers.
Rice cannot headline the Democrat ticket. At least not one that isn't going to lose in a landslide. Selecting her means it's Biden as nominee, come what may.
Conversely, Harris certainly can be swapped in as nominee for president. Indeed, I assume there's a solid faction pushing for exactly that after their Potemkin Village convention nominates their Potemkin Village Idiot.
This explains what I believe is a massive struggle behind the Democrat curtain at the moment. Anointing Harris is likely a violation of side agreements made with Cuomo, Newsom and others that the Obama and Clinton factions won't lock up control of the parry for this years and 2024's election cycles, win or lose.
Choosing Rice also constrains, or at least complicates, whatever Barr has planned in the coming weeks (i.e. before September 4th) on the 2016 malefactions by the Obama Administration against Trump.Replies: @eD, @eD
MLK is making a mistake that I keep seeing otherwise informed commentators making.
The process is somewhat complicated, but I will try to keep this short. A designated presidential or vice presidential nominee of the Democratic and Republican party is not a legal position, so any presidential selection rules don’t apply. Only once the Electoral College (or relevant house of Congress in the event of a deadlock) elects a President and Vice President in December is Vice Presdient elect relevant if there is a presidential vacancy of some sort. If you have not been voted in by the Electoral College, you are neither the President nor Vice Presidential elect, so there is no legal requirement for you to be replaced.
If the Democrats nominate Biden, under the party by-laws, which are what is relevant, can designate another presidential nominee at any time before the Electoral College votes. Note that this is before the Electoral College vote, it can occur after ordinary voters have voted (for the Electors). This need not be whoever they have nominated for Vice President, who has nothing to do with this.
The only reason this comes up is that up until now, 1984 being the only possible exception, the political parties have been careful not to nominate obviously senile people for President. But if a party insists on doing this with the intention of doing a switcheroo later, they can do the switch for anyone up until the Electoral College votes. Whoever they nominate for Vice President is not important until then.
Kamala Harris' sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly. Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign's point of view.Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jesse, @Buffalo Joe, @Lurker
Also, Maya appears to be the pretty one of the two.
It is customary for Vice Presidential candidates to have held elective office, usually recently. Presumably to prove that they are or were in touch with the will of the people. Even Eminence Grise Dick Cheney had once been a Representative. Rice has never been anything other than a foreign policy functionary.
Then again, as this country really isn’t a democracy, what does it really matter?
He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Buffalo Joe, @Sent from my iStevePhone
Stanford was founded to memorialize the guy’s son who died from COVID-1884 doing his young-buck “grand tour” of Europe IIRC.
I came up in the 80s and can remember how the U. would draw chortles of “football farm” and “rich kid nursery” from Southern Californian toffs… but venture-capital cocaine is clearly a hell of a drug
Surely they didn't think that USC was anything different?
If Trump wins handily, even in a landslide, then the Democrats engineering Biden's nomination becomes not explicable but obvious in its efficacy. It will have been the way for all concerned to put a period on this greatest of political scandals and allow the Democrats room to do a reset.
I put it this way because throughout 2016 I kept asking and never got an answer as to why the Democrats wanted the problem that was Hillary? As a Trump supporter who assessed that he would win as long as he did so by an Electoral College margin too large for them to steal back on election night, my greatest fear in the fall was the Democrats going to Plan B in the fall after her flop and twitch on 9/11.
Which brings us to why in the world is Biden their putative nominee and will they pull a 'Torricelli' before Election Day:
https://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/elec02.nj.s.torricelli.race/
I didn't explicate any of the above because I don't need to, anyone reasonably informed knows. Instead, per the subject of this post, it's to suggest that the choice between Rice and 'Heels Up' Harris is really one of whether sailing poor Joe's ship before Election Day is taken off the table to ensure it isn't forced upon Biden's handlers.
Rice cannot headline the Democrat ticket. At least not one that isn't going to lose in a landslide. Selecting her means it's Biden as nominee, come what may.
Conversely, Harris certainly can be swapped in as nominee for president. Indeed, I assume there's a solid faction pushing for exactly that after their Potemkin Village convention nominates their Potemkin Village Idiot.
This explains what I believe is a massive struggle behind the Democrat curtain at the moment. Anointing Harris is likely a violation of side agreements made with Cuomo, Newsom and others that the Obama and Clinton factions won't lock up control of the parry for this years and 2024's election cycles, win or lose.
Choosing Rice also constrains, or at least complicates, whatever Barr has planned in the coming weeks (i.e. before September 4th) on the 2016 malefactions by the Obama Administration against Trump.Replies: @eD, @eD
John Michael Greer wrote once that the Democrats and Republicans have a long standing agreement to switch the White House back and forth between the two parties on every eight years. That would explain why the presidential nominees on the “wrong” years since the Cold War ended, the ones that are nominated to throw the election (Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney, H. Clinton, Biden) were either undermined by their own parties, exactly the wrong candidate for that year, or otherwise deeply flawed. Political scientist Walter Karp had the same theory (https://www.amazon.com/Indispensable-Enemies-Politics-Misrule-America/dp/1879957132), it may have been where Greer picked it up.
This election would follow the pattern, except the Donks are really overdoing it, and it seems that neither major party nominee are supposed to win the election.
H.W. Bush won in 1988 because Peace and Prosperity.
Democrats had high hopes when he took office that Obama would be their Reagan, initiating a Democrat-era well beyond his eight years. The problem was Obama and the Democrats didn't deliver and he only won a second term by morphing from a unifying candidate and president to purveyor of nasty identity politics.
No one seemed to notice, or perhaps quickly forgot, that it was evident as early as 2014 that Hillary intended to run on the Democrat equivalent of H.W. Bush's kindler and gentler thingie. Meaning she would be presented as more to the center, particularly on foreign policy, which meant loud and proud NeoCon.
The old colostomy bag was forced to abandon running on the H.W. Bush template, first by Sanders and then Trump. Remember, her campaign ended up with the battle of the sexes horseshoe and some version of what Johnson used against Goldwater.
This is merely one example of how having a captive, Allied Media, can prove a weakness rather than a strength. Democrats thought it was more than enough that the media fawned over figurehead Obama as if he was the second coming.
Russia and China are not a good fit for each other – their natural position is that of competitors, not allies. They share borders and the Russians are naturally suspicious that the Chinese have their eyes on the underpopulated Russian Far East. Culturally they are like oil and water. Having two strong man dictators may make it easier to make a deal (just like Hitler was able to make a deal with Stalin) but making a deal and keeping it are two different things (as Stalin found out the hard way).
OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. As a low trust society, any attempt to adhere to Western norms ends in chaos so Russia always reverts to strong man rule.
Why can't Biden pick a white woman?
I think that's what he should do.
The blacks got their freebies, it's the liberal white women who are losing their minds.
Make THEM happyReplies: @Mr. Anon
Nurse RatchedGretchen Whitmer recently visited Biden at hisrest homehouse, reportedly to discuss her being the VP candidatehttps://apnews.com/65025dc16aa18353cf868658d9b2314a
None of the black women candidates help him win a swing-state. I guess the thinking is that
Ilsa She Wolf of the SSWhitmer might help the ticket win Michigan. That’s assuming she hasn’t pissed off enough white people in the state yet by decreeing that they can’t use their motor-boats and declaring racism a public-heath emergency.But then american foreign service personnel would have to pay American rates for their rent-boys.
I agree. We should reduce our diplomatic foot-print. Fewer embassies and consulates, fewer visas issued.
However, Kamala Harris appears to lie rather casually and frequently. To quote myself, writing elsewhere:
‘I noted some time ago her improbable claim that as a child she collected money door-to-door for the Israel Fund.
Really? Now this from Wikipedia:
‘…She identifies herself as black and sees her experience primarily as American.[12] Harris was raised in Berkeley, California, with her younger sister, Maya Harris.[13][14] She grew up attending both a Black Baptist church, where she and her sister sang in the choir, and a Hindu temple.[15] As a child, Harris used to visit her extended family in Chennai and was reportedly close to her maternal grandfather P.V. Gopalan, a career civil servant for the federal Government of India.[8][16] Harris began kindergarten in the second year of Berkeley’s school desegregation busing program, which adopted busing to bring racial balance to the city’s public schools; a bus drove her to a school which, two years prior, had been 95% white.[17] Her parents divorced when she was 7; when she and her sister would visit their father in Palo Alto on weekends, she stated that neighbors’ kids were not allowed to play with them because they were black…’
Again, Really? Her mother is Indian and the divorced father is a professor at Stanford. Why would she attend a Black Baptist Church? The neighbors didn’t let their children play with her because she was black in 1970’s Palo Alto?’
This tendency to tell what appear to be obvious lies may or may not keep the Democrats from nominating her — but it’s very likely to come back to bite her at some point during the campaign. Fox News et al are practically made to call out this level of crap.
In modern times, has the American Black refusal to separate Black and Mullato/a into separate groups (as logic would dictate) been good or bad overall for Blacks and the country as a whole?Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Jesse, can’t answer for the country, but because it is not a zero sum game mullatos get all the benefits accorded to blacks, so it is good for blacks. Always lots of benefits for anyone who identifies as black.
Once Putin departs, things in Russia will go the same way as in France after De Gaulle, when the country got inexorably drawn into Germany’s orbit. The next set of Russian leaders will phrase their policy as neutralising China through engagement, but really they’ll need China to pay for the Russian living standards to be maintained. We cannot wait for Putin’s era to end in the expectation Russia will see sense then.
The sad fact is that much of the American electorate, across various identities, would rather vote for an empty suit who panders to their narcissism than for a candidate who talks policy to them. The latter kind actually turns a lot of them off as they feel they are being talked down to. The only part of your post I really tend to disagree with, though, is the last sentence:Does it really?Replies: @Buffalo Joe
Mario, very nice, well thought out replay. People, like me, thought Bernie was as far left as a serious candidate could go, but who knew the dems would cave to bLM demands and the AntiFas and their violence? America could do better than this…is that better stated?
In Berlusconi’s 15 years as Prime Minister, he spent something like 2,200 days in Court.
The Lawfare against him was colossal.
I was in Tripoli twice (or maybe three times) back in the Qaddafi era.
(I like the Q name, not G; he is about the only major nation leader whose name was constantly being spelled differently in the western media, though not usually in the same article.)
It was okay but I recommended our oil drilling business leave asap on my last visit. Six months later Qaddafi kicked out all of the Americans.
One thing stood out. On departing the Tripoli airport you passed through a non functional scanner. No one checked your carry on or performed any kind of security check other than passport/visa. The secret police (or so they seemed) were even helpful. No one was hijacking aircraft out of Tripoli.
Hillary and S. Rice screwed that place up royally, like Bush did with Iraq. “Better the devil you know…”
At the same time that white people are oppressive, they fail to be impressive.
First response on 4chan: “she was confused by the lack of public $@%!ting.” And I would add, catastrophic public transport crashes.
Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.
Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.
Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.Replies: @guest007, @Not Only Wrathful, @Muggles, @Bernard
Odd but unmentioned HBD fact.
Both Harris and Rice are biracial. Just like Obama. Yet the MSM always refers to them as black (or now, Black.) Obama was the “first biracial president” (though some argue otherwise) not the first “black/Black” president.
It’s like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.
Kinda makes you think…
Why would “Southern Californian toffs” be complaining about a “rich kid nursery”?
Surely they didn’t think that USC was anything different?
>>If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.<<
You say this for effect. Well said.
But I have yet to read/hear of anyone regardless of politics who actually did emigrate from the US after an election.
Alec Baldwin and dozens of other crazed Hillaryites used to say that in 2015, yet they are all still here. Sadly. Some may still be repeating that lie.
So this is, regardless of intent, the rhetorical equivalent of shooting off blanks.
In terms of masculine charisma it’d be hard to choose between a victorious guerrilla revolutionary who seized and held power for decades; and a former special forces commando who permanently changed his country’s political scene and uses every trick in the book to strengthen the ethnic basis of his Folkstate.
Politics aside, they’re both titans.
To their credit, unlike their white counterparts, legacy black Americans don't seem to be going down without a fight.Replies: @Charlotte
The diversity push in film, TV, the music biz, academia, journalism, politics, you name it, favors very light-skinned blacks over typical American blacks to an amazing degree. It’s as if every white person in public life were a blue-eyed blonde. And yeah, there’s probably a good reason for that. But I wonder whether the average American black resents it, or just feels proud that they have representation?
And if you look back with a critical eye it's overall not a very impressive list period.
"Deserved" simply has very little to do with it. If we want better we have to get to work and demand better.Replies: @Jane Plain, @Reg Cæsar, @throtler
The presidents before Eisenhower were even more destructive. Except, as always, the “do-nothings”. I’ll take a string of Fords or Coolidges over a “great” one any decade. There must be some high minimum amount of damage done, a “deductable” so to speak, to meet before historians label a president great.
Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.
Don’t worry. Considering Biden’s condition, she wouldn’t be Vice President for very long!
The Establishment wants an Obama Third Term. A so-called return to normalcy. Rice as VP guarantees this.
Rice’s mother worked for The Brookings Institue (as would Rice herself) and her father for the World Bank. Her father would sit on the Federal Reserve Board.
Rice is Mariana Trench levels of Deep State, a National Security State pod person.
As Obama’s National Security Advisor, Rice was a central actor in the decision to illegally spy on the Trump campaign in 2016. If Russiagate, the Mueller Investigation, the Ukrainegate Impeachment and the ongoing Burn This Mothafucka To The Ground BLM Color Revolution are all Deep State ops to protect the Obama Administration and the Neoliberal New World Order, why the hell wouldn’t Rice be the VP?
The National Security Council and the CIA, the real power behind the throne, want one of their own pulling the strings of a zombie president drifting off into dementia. A zombie emperor of a zombie empire.
Dark Days.
OT; I don’t know what other things you guys are following, but Trump is waging war on the polls. He just signed a few executive orders. Deferring payroll tax from August 1st until January 1st, pausing student loan interest, extending the 600 a week federal unemployment benefit. He’s sprinting to the finish line. I don’t agree with the 600 a week federal unemployment, that’s insane. And I’m not sure how deferring payroll tax will affect me, I might be for it but I’d have to look into it. When it comes to student loans I think those little cockroaches should should pay back all their interest. But it isn’t their fault that schools are closed, so I can see pausing interest for the foreseeable futures. I just don’t understand why they aren’t all getting jobs. There are plenty of jobs right now… they should go pick up a shovel.
Im feeling generally cautious yet optimistic. In terms of the election trump is sprinting towards the finish line.
If we assume that former President Obama is still the Mr. Big in the Democratic power structure, then I’d say that Susan Rice has the inside track.
But will she let Obama run her when she becomes Ms. Big?
Adding to this speculation is the question: What does Mrs. Big in the Democratic Party have to say about the VP choice? Michelle Obama seems to have eclipsed her husband. She has passed on the VP slot, but given her now elevated status (and 100% blackness), she may prefer not to share the adulation that she now receives with another female near-black competitor. Y-negative genotypes are prickly about these social status things! That should make Deval Patrick's star rise.
Trump, under no circumstances, wins the 2020 election as candidate Trump 1.0. Sadly, in the event of an unexpected win, it will be Javanka all the way down, especially during a lame-duck term. There may even be an attempt to secure the 2024 nomination for Ivanka--a full-blown cult of personality. That's my cynical take, especially seeing how Javanka and the Axis of Weevils in "Trump's" administration are serving up swamp creatures in the senate primaries.
I hope I am wrong.
He is mucho tiny.Replies: @Herzog
You mean, like a duck?
The more accomplished or attractive a black woman is, the more likely she is to marry a white man.
Steve, you write that Rice is in the top 1% of blacks–that I’ll agree with. Can we agree that no 100% sub-Saharans are in this 1% cohort? My reading of Rice’s IQ is that she’s on the par of an average law partner (125-135). Not so impressive
Both Harris and Rice are biracial. Just like Obama. Yet the MSM always refers to them as black (or now, Black.) Obama was the "first biracial president" (though some argue otherwise) not the first "black/Black" president.
It's like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.
Kinda makes you think...Replies: @Mario Partisan, @Flip
It’s called “chucking your privilege.” A smart move for the ambitious social climber these days.
You’re exaggerating slightly. He became a nuclear submarine officer and the course he took was at Rennselaer Poytechnic Institute.
Just helping out a little (sorry about plagiarizing Steve's "long and hard" line). You guys can take it from here.Replies: @Herzog, @Whitey Whiteman III
Kudos!
Willy Brown has had a lot of girlfriends.
Kamala Harris? Susan Rice? They’re the results of a nation-wide search?
Is Jim Webb not available?
And the fooling of Medvedev led to the return of “Lord Sauron” who has just shuffled Medvedev out the door.
It's fascinating that she appeared to get no traction with Blacks, especially the women. What happened there?Replies: @Bucky
She has that glibness to her that blacks can see is often associated with the entitled Karens calling the cops on them for having a cookout.
She is childless which actually is quite problematic. She would be the first president since the late 1800’s who is childless.
Not having biological children can make a person more extreme and ideological, and not possess the experience of compromise, coaxing, that comes with raising a child.
She is married to a white Jewish man.
Harris isn’t really popular amongst the people. She is popular amongst DC professional women. She is an identity politics choice for them, and not the average black American.
I have heard it said that the genocide narrative is false – that it was really a civil war with an armed incursion by Tutsi based in Uganda, which the west labeled a genocide by the Hutu against the Tutsi because the West favored the Tutsi. I haven’t looked into it in any detail, so I can’t vouch for that view. And honestly, I don’t really care. America certainly doesn’t need to get mixed up in Africa (although given that the Pentagon now has an “Africom”, I expect that we will). If Rice kept us out of that business, then good for her.
And to think that those who question this story are labeled “deniers” and doing so is illegal in Rwanda. Not suspicious at all.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/rwanda-the-enduring-lies-a-project-censored-interview-with-professor-ed-herman/5502707
https://fox40jackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/103736/susan-rice-on-her-trump-supporting-son-i-love-him-dearly.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/14/19440860-7550115-image-m-20_1570541079591.jpgReplies: @anon, @Father Coughlin, @AnotherDad, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
Edward Dutton has some theories about mixed-race children. They are generally not good-looking (although a few black and white models have stood out for the curiosity factor and have caused the PC meme that the mix is actually beautiful).
See Robert Deniro’s children. Even last year’s Super Bowl-winning quarterback, a true alpha, looks “off” in the face to me.
The Rwanda genocide was rather like the Great Terror in Revolutionary France. The old masters, the Tutsis, were invading with the help of foreign powers (Uganda), and the new ruling class went nuts and started murdering people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qx7JMpOI
Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren
A Freudian slip would be more like Kamala saying that she owes her start in politics to a big brown willie or something.
At first I thought you were talking about Harris, who only conveniently got married before her Senate run. The only other relationship of hers that I’ve been able to find is her latching on to the married SF politician Willie Brown, who made all the right connections for her.
Harris would be swimming against history also in having had no children. That hasnt happened at the Presidential level since James Buchanan (pre-Civil war) and perhaps that long for the vice-presidency (though Wilson’s Veep, Thomas Marshall, only had a foster son).
But with more and more confirmed cat-ladies in the voting public than ever, childlessness might be a polotical asset, who knows.
Is Jim Webb not available?Replies: @Hibernian
Webb is as old as Trump and the Left has no use for him.
Seems not all the neo’s are on-board with Susie Q:
http://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/five-more-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-susan-rice/
I gotta say Harris doesn’t seem that bright. Not saying she’s a ditz — but her excursion asking Kavanaugh if he knew a random name from a random law firm decades ago was not a great competence-signalling moment. Most Washington jobs depend on projecting more intelligence than, reasonably, you ought to have in that position.
Does Harris have any known FP positions?? How does the campaign NOT turn to law enforcement quadruple-bankshot-kabuki triangulation, should she get the nom?
https://fox40jackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/103736/susan-rice-on-her-trump-supporting-son-i-love-him-dearly.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/14/19440860-7550115-image-m-20_1570541079591.jpgReplies: @anon, @Father Coughlin, @AnotherDad, @Je Suis Omar Mateen
Not attractive kids.
Interesting, cause i don’t think Susan Rice is an unattractive woman–high side of average–ok facial symmetry, nothing too weird going on. She’s and her husband just didn’t mix well–at least in terms of looks. (The son seems pretty cool in terms of figuring stuff out for himself. Betting would be daughter is a tedious SJW.)
This is because the goofs in DC miss the key point that the Russian defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems focused on defeating and killing the enemy.
The US defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems that enrich their executives, DC insiders, and flag-level officers while creating a spider-web of job sites across the US that are useful cudgels against any legislators that speak out about cutting wasteful spending on MIC pork programs.
As a result, Russia has a 10 year lead on the US in hypersonics. At the rate the US is going they will be lucky to field a vestigial hypersonic capability in 2024 or 2025. The Lockheed Martin HCSW, which was planned to be one of the US’ major hypersonic programs, was outright canceled several months ago.
Russia also has the world’s premier integrated air defense system, which has proven highly effective against the now dated Tomahawk cruise missile.
“OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. “
This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.
Russia discovered in the 90s that “joining the West” meant in practice having all the State’s assets looted by Larry Summers’ cousins thrice removed, so that it was more like joining the West Bank.
A catastrophic drop in living standards and life expectancy was accompanied by the concentration of enormous wealth in the hands of criminal oligarchs.
It’s not surprising that patriotic Russians had second thoughts. What IS surprising is that Putin, chosen by the oligarchs as a front man, was able to turn against them and remain alive.
The downing of the President
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16472013
had nothing, not in the slightest, to do with the actions of the incoming regime.
Which was nice. And it was all the fault of the upstart ousted baddies. Who smelled and had no table manners.
Carter knew Three Mile Island was a nothingburger but refused to say so publicly in order not to anger the anti-nuke activists in his party.
http://statusmind.com/images/2014/10/Witty-Quotes-50684-statusmind.com.jpg
Kamala Sutra. Horizontal Harris. Are we still allowed to use the word 'mistress' in our brave new world? Or is it passé?Replies: @Lot, @SMK, @ben tillman
Like the Bourbon kings, Willie was amicably separated but not divorced from his wife.
Kamala had the honorable position of Willie’s Chief Mistress (maîtresse-en-titre), not one of his side pieces (petites maîtresses).
Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Flip, @Rob McX
Reagan signed the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty, which was the only highly significant effect of his presidency … and a disaster for the nation. (I guess the China trade was opened and boosted as well–another disaster.)
And it wasn't an "amnesty". A true amnesty would have been a return home without sanctions. It was legal residence and eventual citizenship, a windfall for the recepients. We shoot ourselves in the foot by not calling it what it is.
His fundamental mistake was assuming the bona fides of the other side. He was a Democrat for forty years. He should have known that party has never been honest since its inception.Nixon ended the embargo, not Reagan. Even Trump isn't talking about bringing that back. Someone should take this up, along with repeal of the 23rd Amendment.
It exploded again under W, and then the floodgates really opened.
Fortunately, 'deficits don't matter' as one wag put it.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Harris is ambitious but not
drivensmart enough to achieve her goals.This election would follow the pattern, except the Donks are really overdoing it, and it seems that neither major party nominee are supposed to win the election.Replies: @MLK
Incumbent presidents have built-in advantages. The opposite holds for either party obtaining a third-term in a row.
H.W. Bush won in 1988 because Peace and Prosperity.
Democrats had high hopes when he took office that Obama would be their Reagan, initiating a Democrat-era well beyond his eight years. The problem was Obama and the Democrats didn’t deliver and he only won a second term by morphing from a unifying candidate and president to purveyor of nasty identity politics.
No one seemed to notice, or perhaps quickly forgot, that it was evident as early as 2014 that Hillary intended to run on the Democrat equivalent of H.W. Bush’s kindler and gentler thingie. Meaning she would be presented as more to the center, particularly on foreign policy, which meant loud and proud NeoCon.
The old colostomy bag was forced to abandon running on the H.W. Bush template, first by Sanders and then Trump. Remember, her campaign ended up with the battle of the sexes horseshoe and some version of what Johnson used against Goldwater.
This is merely one example of how having a captive, Allied Media, can prove a weakness rather than a strength. Democrats thought it was more than enough that the media fawned over figurehead Obama as if he was the second coming.
Both Harris and Rice are biracial. Just like Obama. Yet the MSM always refers to them as black (or now, Black.) Obama was the "first biracial president" (though some argue otherwise) not the first "black/Black" president.
It's like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.
Kinda makes you think...Replies: @Mario Partisan, @Flip
Well, to be fair I don’t see white southerners claiming their mostly black distant cousins given the “one drop rule.”
The "one drop rule" mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn't had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.
What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn't been my experience (raised in north. lived in south for many decades.)
An old college girlfriend with whom I was briefly recently in contact was somewhat excited about discovering a black ancestor in her DNA test. She was and is a liberal politically.
My main original point was not about individual attitudes but rather that the MSM now eagerly assigns only "Black" to prominent politicians who also identify that way. Which is inaccurate. If they are biracial (half/half) that should be the description. Most American blacks have some non African DNA, and you can tell. Very obvious if you've ever been to black Africa.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Flip, @Rob McX
I didn’t vote for him, but Clinton was actually reasonably moderate and capable. Part of that may have been Gingrich pushing him right.
Was Clinton the first Democrat ever to lose the House, and keep it lost?
Im feeling generally cautious yet optimistic. In terms of the election trump is sprinting towards the finish line.Replies: @Flip, @Jim Don Bob
This is why gold is now $2000. I expect bonds and the dollar to drop some.
Al Sharpton just needs to transition–all the Democrats’ boxes checked, Allie would be a mortal lock.
But wait, how could he be VP and also act in the next Matrix movie at the same time?
Immediately invaded a land-locked country in deepest Africa that nobody had heard of, and suddenly control all ground at the village level to keep squads of machete wielding lunatics apart?
Who was good and who was bad and how could an American tell the difference so as to know which one to shoot?
Seems like Rice at least had the sense of scale and humility to accept when something couldn't be done.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Right, and that would have been the end of it until, for some unknown reason, BJC decide to apologize for Rwanda.
Im feeling generally cautious yet optimistic. In terms of the election trump is sprinting towards the finish line.Replies: @Flip, @Jim Don Bob
Agree that this is great politics on DJT’s part. Even if his orders border on the illegal, Democrats will look like Scrooge when they go to court to overturn them.
https://twitter.com/IrishTimesLife/status/1290895315847901184
First response on 4chan: "she was confused by the lack of public $@%!ting." And I would add, catastrophic public transport crashes.Replies: @Dan Hayes, @3g4me, @JohnnyWalker123
More delusional pap from the Irish Times which as usual puts the New York Times to shame!
If I remember things correctly from reading Gérard Prunier’s Africa’s World War One some years ago, the Hutus had already commenced killing the Tutsis on a large scale when the Kagame Tutsis moved in from, and with the help of, Uganda (where their parent generation had fled a generation before, from an earlier round of Rwandan ethnic mass murder) to topple the Hutu government and stop the killing of their Tutsi co-ethnics.
It was strictly in that order, Prunier emphatically states: According to him, the Kagame troops deliberately moved in slower than they could have so as to give the Hutu génocidaires sufficient time to kill off the local Tutsi elite, thereby ridding them of prospective Tutsi rivals after the overthrow of Hutu rule.
I knew a Rwandan Hutu man and a Burundian (mostly Tutsi) woman in the '90s. We all got along, but an American BFF of hers told me that he had told her once, "We should have killed all of you!"
Whether that was in a fit of anger or his default position I never found out. But keep in mind there are real people behind those big African smiles.
The Burundian lady is a nun now, by the way.Replies: @Herzog
Al Sharpton just needs to transition–all the Democrats’ boxes checked, Allie would be a mortal lock.
But wait, how could he be VP and also act in the next Matrix movie at the same time?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/08/the-virus-piggybacked-on-racism-why-did-covid-19-hit-bame-families-so-hardReplies: @Rob McX, @Mr McKenna, @Gabe Ruth
Professional race deniers must have a shortcut key for that sentence.
Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.Replies: @AnotherDad, @Flip, @Rob McX
Being a do-nothing was OK a hundred years ago, but it’s not good enough nowadays. A president needs to do something to reverse the actions of all his “great” predecessors.
Every president since Ike has been a disaster.Replies: @Kronos, @Philip Owen
Nixon was good while he lasted.
Kamala’s husband Douglas Emhoff seems pretty normal. He was a successful business lawyer with an ex-wife and two kids.
The Rwandan genocide, the only genocide ever in which the mass murder of the victims is immediately followed by the victims’ immediate taking of political power. “The Hutu killed so many Tutsis in a one-sided fashion that the Tutsis won!” Imagine that.
And to think that those who question this story are labeled “deniers” and doing so is illegal in Rwanda. Not suspicious at all.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/rwanda-the-enduring-lies-a-project-censored-interview-with-professor-ed-herman/5502707
The Libyan no-fly zone was based on the no-fly zone over Iraq, put in place at the end of Poppy Bush’s Gulf War I and maintained by Billy Jeff Clinton. It worked sooooo well that blindly repeating it seemed legit to the 0Bama regime, and that worked sooooo well that Hillary! demanded one over Syria during the 2016 Presidential campaign…which would have worked sooooo well until the first Russian aircraft was shot down. Then things would have gotten very, very interesting.
I try to explain to Zoomers how close we came to a war in the Middle East vs. the Russians and they can’t seem to grasp it. Because Orange Man Bad or something.
“No fly” zones sort of work when a country has 100% air supremacy over a very weak adversary and even then it’s a short-term thing at best. The “no fly” fetish just shows how cargo-cultish US leadership has become.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/08/the-virus-piggybacked-on-racism-why-did-covid-19-hit-bame-families-so-hardReplies: @Rob McX, @Mr McKenna, @Gabe Ruth
Before too long, ‘science’ will mean ‘everything which is not science’ and vice versa.
All of it was from Gingrich– and the GOP voters and majority he marshalled– pushing him right. The first two years were wall-to-wall Billary.
Was Clinton the first Democrat ever to lose the House, and keep it lost?
>>Well, to be fair I don’t see white southerners claiming their mostly black distant cousins given the “one drop rule.”<<
The "one drop rule" mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn't had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.
What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn't been my experience (raised in north. lived in south for many decades.)
An old college girlfriend with whom I was briefly recently in contact was somewhat excited about discovering a black ancestor in her DNA test. She was and is a liberal politically.
My main original point was not about individual attitudes but rather that the MSM now eagerly assigns only "Black" to prominent politicians who also identify that way. Which is inaccurate. If they are biracial (half/half) that should be the description. Most American blacks have some non African DNA, and you can tell. Very obvious if you've ever been to black Africa.
“In the South, the white man doesn’t care how close you get, as long as you don’t get too high. In the North, he doesn’t care how high you get, as long as you don’t get too close.”Replies: @Paleo Liberal
I thought that Harris was a shoo-in for VP, but the comment by “Scott in PA” about Deval Patrick has raised some doubts. If Obama is still Mr. Big, it could very well be Patrick for VP, as I think Patrick is Obama’s favorite.
Adding to this speculation is the question: What does Mrs. Big in the Democratic Party have to say about the VP choice? Michelle Obama seems to have eclipsed her husband. She has passed on the VP slot, but given her now elevated status (and 100% blackness), she may prefer not to share the adulation that she now receives with another female near-black competitor. Y-negative genotypes are prickly about these social status things! That should make Deval Patrick’s star rise.
Trump, under no circumstances, wins the 2020 election as candidate Trump 1.0. Sadly, in the event of an unexpected win, it will be Javanka all the way down, especially during a lame-duck term. There may even be an attempt to secure the 2024 nomination for Ivanka–a full-blown cult of personality. That’s my cynical take, especially seeing how Javanka and the Axis of Weevils in “Trump’s” administration are serving up swamp creatures in the senate primaries.
I hope I am wrong.
First, it was the Simpson-Mazzoli, not Reagan, bill. A cheap-labor Rockies Republican and a stab-’em-in-the-back Ohio River “workers’ party” drone. It was a mistake for Reagan to sign it, but at least he hesitated. He also signed abortion liberalization in California (allowing the hospital committees who made the ultimate decision more leeway) and no-fault divorce, both of which he regretted. All of these were from listening to the wrong people. Like the ABA.
And it wasn’t an “amnesty”. A true amnesty would have been a return home without sanctions. It was legal residence and eventual citizenship, a windfall for the recepients. We shoot ourselves in the foot by not calling it what it is.
His fundamental mistake was assuming the bona fides of the other side. He was a Democrat for forty years. He should have known that party has never been honest since its inception.
Nixon ended the embargo, not Reagan. Even Trump isn’t talking about bringing that back. Someone should take this up, along with repeal of the 23rd Amendment.
Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.
Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.
Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.Replies: @guest007, @Not Only Wrathful, @Muggles, @Bernard
I myself would prefer the less outwardly competent of the two, which is Harris. Rice is more eloquent and has more stature, which would be of greater value to the MSM, who will deify either. Harris is a harder sell.
The "one drop rule" mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn't had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.
What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn't been my experience (raised in north. lived in south for many decades.)
An old college girlfriend with whom I was briefly recently in contact was somewhat excited about discovering a black ancestor in her DNA test. She was and is a liberal politically.
My main original point was not about individual attitudes but rather that the MSM now eagerly assigns only "Black" to prominent politicians who also identify that way. Which is inaccurate. If they are biracial (half/half) that should be the description. Most American blacks have some non African DNA, and you can tell. Very obvious if you've ever been to black Africa.Replies: @Reg Cæsar
It was opposed by none other than George Tillman, older brother to Pitchfork Ben, in the South Carolina legislature. Because, he said, none of the men in the room could have passed it.
On the contrary, Southerners are, and have always been, the only whites in America who enjoy the company of blacks. (On their own terms, of course.) That’s been the problem all along.
“In the South, the white man doesn’t care how close you get, as long as you don’t get too high. In the North, he doesn’t care how high you get, as long as you don’t get too close.”
Interesting thing. I’ve had a number of black folks tell me they feel more comfortable around me because of my southern heritage. A lot of the “soul food” was just southern food. There have been times when I was the only white guy in restaurants in black neighborhoods. People found it fascinating to see a white guy enjoying “black” food.
One of my black friends said he found southerners more honest about race matters. He said with southerners you knew what the rules were, but with northerners you didn’t.
One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.Replies: @Hibernian
LOL, Steve, you are awesome…
Hoover “the most accomplished.” Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?
The Great Humanitarian
Herbert Hoover's Food Relief Efforts
Note that this site is at Cornell College in his native Iowa, not that Johnny-come-lately out in Ithaca. The founders were cousins.
There's also this: https://www.hoover.org/about/missionhistoryReplies: @Inquiring Mind, @MEH 0910
ATM, the closest thing to a “Grand Western Alliance” is the Euro-American War on Whites.
Russia is never, ever going to sign on to a plan like that. Which, incidentally, is why the US ‘Establishment’ is at war with Russia nowadays.
Sugar was a highly profitable crop in the 17th and 18th centuries; tobacco, not nearly as profitable. The Caribbean paid the highest prices, for the highest quality slaves. The most desired slaves came from the Gold Coast, present-day Ghana, and most of these went to Jamaica and Barbados. Slaves were driven hard in the Caribbean, and mortality was much higher there than in the North American colonies; the slaves that survived to reproduce, from this superior stock, were the best of the best. Hence the superiority of Jamaicans over North American blacks.
tl:dr. Chicago writ large.
Did the Tutsis & Uganda have a falling out in recent years?
“In the South, the white man doesn’t care how close you get, as long as you don’t get too high. In the North, he doesn’t care how high you get, as long as you don’t get too close.”Replies: @Paleo Liberal
I’ve lived most of my life in the north, but I grew up mostly in the south.
Interesting thing. I’ve had a number of black folks tell me they feel more comfortable around me because of my southern heritage. A lot of the “soul food” was just southern food. There have been times when I was the only white guy in restaurants in black neighborhoods. People found it fascinating to see a white guy enjoying “black” food.
One of my black friends said he found southerners more honest about race matters. He said with southerners you knew what the rules were, but with northerners you didn’t.
One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.
Interesting thing. I’ve had a number of black folks tell me they feel more comfortable around me because of my southern heritage. A lot of the “soul food” was just southern food. There have been times when I was the only white guy in restaurants in black neighborhoods. People found it fascinating to see a white guy enjoying “black” food.
One of my black friends said he found southerners more honest about race matters. He said with southerners you knew what the rules were, but with northerners you didn’t.
One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.Replies: @Hibernian
Do you have a bridge for sale?
Brooklyn has always been like that. Some scholars think the Indians who supposedly sold Manhattan to the Dutch were really Canarsie Indians visiting from Brooklyn. Which explains why the Indians living in Manhattan didn’t leave after the “sale”. The Dutch built a wooden wall on the site of the present day Wall Street, and the Indians tore down the wall the next winter to use as firewood. A lesson in there somewhere.
https://youtu.be/HagVnWAeGcM?t=95Replies: @R.G. Camara, @RadicalCenter
Nicely done. Even more so, especially with the smile, Harris’s kid looks like Canadian actor Fred Ewanuick, who starred in Corner Gas for six seasons from 2004-2009:
There’s an offer pending, but if you can bid higher we’ll see what we can do.
Brooklyn has always been like that. Some scholars think the Indians who supposedly sold Manhattan to the Dutch were really Canarsie Indians visiting from Brooklyn. Which explains why the Indians living in Manhattan didn’t leave after the “sale”. The Dutch built a wooden wall on the site of the present day Wall Street, and the Indians tore down the wall the next winter to use as firewood. A lesson in there somewhere.
Man, with all this Rwanda talk I felt like we needed some Hutu Power Radio up in this piece:
Here is my prediction.
Among the “short list”, Ms. Harris is my last choice, but I think she will be picked.
Why?
When Obama got the nomination, some were worried he would be a left wing radical. By choosing the banks’ best buddy Biden as his VP. He signaled that the banks would be treated very well. And they were.
Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.
Harris wasn't exactly popular with the San Francisco police. She refused to seek the death penalty in a particularly egregious cop-killing.
Outside of public office. Read up on his “social” work. Jimmy Carter has nothing on Hoover.
The Great Humanitarian
Herbert Hoover’s Food Relief Efforts
Note that this site is at Cornell College in his native Iowa, not that Johnny-come-lately out in Ithaca. The founders were cousins.
There’s also this: https://www.hoover.org/about/missionhistory
Reagan was the best of the three top candidates for anti-nukers. All were very much in favor of atomic power, but at least he would be less likely to subsidize it. Same with Ed Clark, who finished fourth. Barry Commoner, the only anti-nuker in the lot, finished fifth.
Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn't the web wonderful?Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps
Coolidge is underrated.
(although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).
I don’t think so – but the hair has a slight kink.
He has an unstable look. I think Fryer did a study on life outcomes for biracial kids & found mostly predictable results. They scored midway between whites & blacks on intellect, but there was one interesting outlier: recklessness. They were more reckless than either whites or blacks. Interesting, no?
By whom?
Don’t forget the Tutsi massacre of Hutus in Burundi in 1972. At 250,000 and 22 years earlier (i.e., smaller populations), it may be comparable to the Rwanda one proportionally.
I knew a Rwandan Hutu man and a Burundian (mostly Tutsi) woman in the ’90s. We all got along, but an American BFF of hers told me that he had told her once, “We should have killed all of you!”
Whether that was in a fit of anger or his default position I never found out. But keep in mind there are real people behind those big African smiles.
The Burundian lady is a nun now, by the way.
Also, Burundi has tended to be obscured by Rwanda in the Western consciousness (and perhaps in the non-Western one as well), but of course it has a history --- often a bloody history --- of its own. I just can't quite muster the energy to keep track of the details, having my day job and all that.
When I briefly visited Rwanda about a dozen years ago, I was stunned by its natural beauty. And yes, I'm well aware that I'm not the first to say so. What was more of a surprise was that the landscapes began to change, to become Rwandan effectively, already in southern Uganda, perhaps forty miles before the actual border. And as landscapes are to a considerable extent man-made, likely there is also ethnic continuity between southern Uganda and Rwanda. Which would in turn help explain Ugandan support for the Kagame Tutsis, all the more so because Museveni of Uganda is from his country's south himself.
A chin job, a new hairstyle, and weight loss does wonders.
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They are all quite disfortunate looking.
Among the “short list”, Ms. Harris is my last choice, but I think she will be picked.
Why?
When Obama got the nomination, some were worried he would be a left wing radical. By choosing the banks’ best buddy Biden as his VP. He signaled that the banks would be treated very well. And they were.
Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.Replies: @Bucky, @Colin Wright
By that metric, Demings is the best
They will be dumb to go to court over this (even if it can be overturned). It is politically more beneficial for them to let it stand and use it as a precedent to reprogram the appropriated money any way they feel like when a Democratic president gets elected. If they are really smart, they should get it blessed by D.C. Circuit court (Judge Rao) so that precedent is set in concrete. If anything, it is Republicans who should feel uncomfortable with this; but that ship has sailed.
“…it’s remarkable how one can count on one’s fingers the number who have any capability whatsoever for such a job…”
As opposed to the white men who have done such a great job recently? Bush—Great Recession, Iraq
Trump—annual trillion dollar deficits, horrible pandemic response
At risk of repeating myself, don’t count out Whitless. She’s been preening as the anti-Karen Karen CoronaCaust Queen. And look who old Joe’s having for dinner..
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/08/07/gretchen-whitmer-joe-biden-vice-president/3325013001/
Obama side stepped John Kerry to make Rice his Secretary of State. Congress wisely denied him. I was and am a 2 term Obama supporter but the fact he failed to get us a true public option & left us with more Romneycare type ACA trash tired me of Obama….his constant cucking to the “sister” aka Rice, Hillary and that weirdo Samantha Power chapped my hide.
His constant prolonging of the wars in the Islamic world and his attention on foreign rather than domestic policies is why i looked the other way when Trump ran….
I dunno what Rice did but someone high up is pushing her towards the White House…..couldnt get her in as Sec of State so now they’re trying veep….
Obama’s 2 terms were a disappointment…..from our meddling in Libya and. Somalia to our meddling in Ukraine via the neocon holdovers like Victoria Nuland….
The pro war types won’t go into the next life peacefully…..its going to take much force and violence i fear….theyre dug in like Alabama ticks….
Kamala Sutra. Horizontal Harris. Are we still allowed to use the word 'mistress' in our brave new world? Or is it passé?Replies: @Lot, @SMK, @ben tillman
Sleeping with a ogre like Willie Brown to advance one’s political career is repulsive but not nearly as awful as invading Libya and murdering Gaddafi and creating a refuge crisis that plagues and blights Western Europe. Besides, Harris is sexy for a woman in her mid-50’s. If Biden must pick a mulatto or quadroon as his running mate -who’ll soon be president if Biden is elected as his dementia progresses and will ultimately render him so impaired that he won’t be able to give speeches or answer questions at press conferences and will be removed from office under the 25th Amendment- let it be a sexy quadroon who’s 1/4 white and half Mumbai Indian with an effusive smile and stylish wardrobe.
Interesting, cause i don't think Susan Rice is an unattractive woman--high side of average--ok facial symmetry, nothing too weird going on. She's and her husband just didn't mix well--at least in terms of looks. (The son seems pretty cool in terms of figuring stuff out for himself. Betting would be daughter is a tedious SJW.)Replies: @LMD
After seeing a picture of the son, I had to find a picture of her husband. Tall, lanky fellow, yet still has a double chin. Probably slightly below average to most people, but not odd-looking like the son.
And if you look back with a critical eye it's overall not a very impressive list period.
"Deserved" simply has very little to do with it. If we want better we have to get to work and demand better.Replies: @Jane Plain, @Reg Cæsar, @throtler
I don’t think much of Eisenhower and his forced integration either.
Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life
This is objectively true and your attack misses a key criterion. Hoover was an orphan who came from less than what people usually mean when they say they came from nothing. He became a respected engineer and then created a brilliant plan to identify and repatriate displaced persons following WWI. Scandinavians used to call a useful, brilliant person a “Hoover.”
I am VERY disappointed.Replies: @throtler
Not me. Those two skanks are disgusting.
Kamala Sutra. Horizontal Harris. Are we still allowed to use the word 'mistress' in our brave new world? Or is it passé?Replies: @Lot, @SMK, @ben tillman
“In various positions” — LOL. Somehow you significantly improved on what has gotten to be an old joke around here.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .Replies: @Jack D, @Escher, @Jim Don Bob
I don't think so - but the hair has a slight kink.
He has an unstable look. I think Fryer did a study on life outcomes for biracial kids & found mostly predictable results. They scored midway between whites & blacks on intellect, but there was one interesting outlier: recklessness. They were more reckless than either whites or blacks. Interesting, no?Replies: @Escher
Was it to rebel against the more functional part of their ancestry?
The US defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems that enrich their executives, DC insiders, and flag-level officers while creating a spider-web of job sites across the US that are useful cudgels against any legislators that speak out about cutting wasteful spending on MIC pork programs.
As a result, Russia has a 10 year lead on the US in hypersonics. At the rate the US is going they will be lucky to field a vestigial hypersonic capability in 2024 or 2025. The Lockheed Martin HCSW, which was planned to be one of the US' major hypersonic programs, was outright canceled several months ago.
Russia also has the world's premier integrated air defense system, which has proven highly effective against the now dated Tomahawk cruise missile.Replies: @Father Coughlin
Why do we care about the Russians again??
We certainly don't need to lay awake at night regarding the Russians.
However, we should be concerned about their export sales of highly effective systems to current and potential opponents.
The proliferation of S-200/300/400 SAM systems and the myriad of Su-27/30/35 Flanker variants are the two most notable examples of this practice.
What’s with the passive voice? Who is going to scrutinize her decisions? Surely not the mass media, nor the public — most of whom have no idea who she is.
Not surprisingly, poytech i located in Honolulu.
It was not “our” decision. We had nothing to do with it.
I nearly fell off my chair when I learned that Susan Rice’s son was the president of the Young Republicans’ Club at Stanford. I read an interview (I think in the Stanford Review, a conservative campus paper started by Peter Thiel when he was there) where he said growing up his parents always talked about politics at the dinner table, and “when you know politics as much as I do, you’d be a Republican too”. That was when Rice was working for Obama. What does that tell you about Obama’s politics?! Rice probably has so much dirt on Obiden they have to make her Veep to keep her from ratting them out.
My favorite Kamala Harris meme: “I’ll cut you.”
Among the “short list”, Ms. Harris is my last choice, but I think she will be picked.
Why?
When Obama got the nomination, some were worried he would be a left wing radical. By choosing the banks’ best buddy Biden as his VP. He signaled that the banks would be treated very well. And they were.
Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.Replies: @Bucky, @Colin Wright
‘Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.’
Harris wasn’t exactly popular with the San Francisco police. She refused to seek the death penalty in a particularly egregious cop-killing.
1) her brother-in-law is Tony West, general counsel of Uber, so she is a major union-buster
2) She didnt marry Jewish until she absolutely had to (right before her Senate race). BBD til then.
‘Steve, you write that Rice is in the top 1% of blacks–that I’ll agree with. Can we agree that no 100% sub-Saharans are in this 1% cohort? My reading of Rice’s IQ is that she’s on the par of an average law partner (125-135). Not so impressive’
Rice is pretty obviously mostly white. I doubt her IQ is much affected.
See also the explosive growth of the national debt under Reagan-Bush.
It exploded again under W, and then the floodgates really opened.
Fortunately, ‘deficits don’t matter’ as one wag put it.
Tend to agree and it’s slightly scary any way you look at it. Our great luck to live in interesting times. FWIW I wrote more here and in previous posts. Will be entertaining to watch this play out.
Yep, I totally agree with that.
Kamala had the honorable position of Willie’s Chief Mistress (maîtresse-en-titre), not one of his side pieces (petites maîtresses).
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I’m certain Kamala could suck a golf ball though a garden hose or suck start my Harley.
Agreed. And in any case they couldn’t care less how many non-Americans get butchered as a result of US foreign policy. They like the idea of invading/bombing/trashing other people’s countries. It gives them a nice warm feeling of superiority.
I’ve always bought physical gold , no ETFs thank you , and there’s talk about $3000 but I’m not convinced and while I don’t mind missing out on a profit I hate to take a loss . I think the rise in gold is related to the possibility of Biden winning the election . If Trump wins I expect gold to drop back to the low teens at least .
While it is tempting to believe that, Biden has been touted for months as "heavily favored" despite flaky polling. What voter who favors Trump is going to tell a pollster that?
I don't know what is driving metals but it is mainly paper metal, not physical. My gold bug friend says "you can't get physical gold" though he hasn't tried. Nor I. I'm not sure how close to $2,000/oz you're going to receive if you try to sell a nice fresh gold Eagle.
What is surprising isn't metals (I think these prices reflect hedged stock positions as insurance) but the overall stock market. It isn't quite at past highs but very good lately. This doesn't seem to presage a Biden win.
I have yet to see any discussion of a "Biden Bull Mkt" so this is puzzling. Even discounting the fact that he's not the Marxist buffoon he pretends to be for his enablers, all of his crazy tax ideas and market "management" for social policy, etc. So either Wall St. is very cynical or they don't think this Biden Wave is real. I'm leaning towards the latter.Replies: @donut
That appears to be a good thing in a bad politician, no?
Doesn’t that just prove that they’re smart? That they realise that westernisation would mean the end of Russia.
Russia isn’t a western country and never has been. They’ve always occupied a unique position between east and west- geographically, culturally, and ethnically.
It exploded again under W, and then the floodgates really opened.
Fortunately, 'deficits don't matter' as one wag put it.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
The national debt doubled under BHO, from $10 trillion to $20 trillion. The $1 trillion 2008-2009 “stimulus” got baked into the baseline budget and never went away. The (acknowledged) national debt is now in the high 20 trillions of dollars and will probably hit 30 before years end.
Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships. Whenever he mentored her, she took it all in, learning to distinguish between “hard” and “soft” power, and how to work a crowd until it reaches a climax. This deep penetration of Brown’s means and methods assisted her in her rise to the nexus of political power.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .
That's all I got for now. Next!
The Great Humanitarian
Herbert Hoover's Food Relief Efforts
Note that this site is at Cornell College in his native Iowa, not that Johnny-come-lately out in Ithaca. The founders were cousins.
There's also this: https://www.hoover.org/about/missionhistoryReplies: @Inquiring Mind, @MEH 0910
Herbert Hoover was instrumental in rolling back post WW-II plans developed by the Roosevelt administration that would have resulted in mass starvation in Germany. This puts the lie to the idea that he was an incompetent bumbler and Franklin Roosevelt was a savior of humanity.
When I was in 6th grade Indoctrination Class, our teacher told us there was a policy of deindustrialization called the Morgenthau Plan that would have resulted in mass starvation of the people of Germany in the aftermath of WW-II. We were further told that fortunately this plan was not put in place, rather, the Marshal Plan of food aid and reconstruction was instituted instead.
I was safely indoctrinated until Curtis Yarvin, back when he commented freely as Mencius Moldbug, opined that any serious plan to combat Climate Change, if you believed what the 12-years-before-the-world-ends alarmists are telling us, would require rolling back industrial production by 80%. He further explained that such a rollback was actually tried in the form of the Morgenthau Plan, which by 1947 was on the brink of inflicting mass death on German civilians as a result of starvation.
The Morgenthau Plan was actually implemented? Teacher told me it never was! Seeking corroboration of Moldbug’s outrageous claim, I turned to Wikipedia, our most trusted source of historical and current information, and there it was, German civilians being restricted to below 1000 (kilo)calories/day, with Herbert Hoover, in the irony of ironies, speaking Truth to Power to the holdovers of the Roosevelt Era for what they were doing.
For all of the claims and counterclaims of the Holocaust, is it fair to say that the primary means by which death was inflicted on its victims was by engaging them in slave labor and feeding them just enough that they would slowly starve to death or succumb to disease in a weakened state? It is the cornerstone of Holocaust Denial that Zyklon B never happened and that people “just happened” to die from privation under wartime camp conditions, but weren’t Japanese generals hanged for “simply” inflicting similar slow starvation on their prisoners? Wasn’t the horror of the Allied armies liberating the camps not that they found mass graves or large number of bodies, but rather, that they saw living human skeletons?
Perhaps it would be fitting that for the German people to have been complicit in murdering millions, slowly and horribly by feeding them starvation rations that this fate would be visited upon them in return? But that was never the Narrative. The leaders of the Shining City Upon a Hill would never admit to that. Mencius Moldbug took a dump in the punch bowl of our collective self image of Who We Are, and the Wikipedia article underwent a substantial reedit to downplay the degree of calorie restriction along with the role of Herbert Hoover in yelling Stop.
Does anyone out there have family stories regarding conditions in 1947 Germany? I know someone whose family was sending food aid to relatives in Germany in that time frame, but the people who were direct witnesses to this are rapidly passing on. I didn’t know then what Moldbug told me when I still had access to such people.
That said, Herbert Hoover was a great man, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.
As to other parts of Morgenthau's Plan, returning to a pastoral lifestyle wouldn't have been a bad thing then or now, for the Germans.
Perhaps Henry was one of those people who never ventured out of Manhattan's central Business district in their lives?Replies: @Hibernian
I remember my grandfather (Canada) telling stories of sending food to family as many were going hungry. They also sent basic first aid and medicine. My grandfather came to Canada in 1914 as a Barnardo Boy. Basically a child slave. He lucked out and ended up with a good family. Strangely enough his brother was shipped over one year later and ended up in the same small town and met in church. Incredible story. His sister was shipped to Australia where she was married then murdered by her husband. No reparations ever paid for that fiasco.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Just helping out a little (sorry about plagiarizing Steve's "long and hard" line). You guys can take it from here.Replies: @Herzog, @Whitey Whiteman III
The ins and outs of government work are sticky business.
Harris seems the more reality-based of the pair.
“So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic…The No-Fly Zone obviously meant that the mighty U.S. was committed to the overthrow and murder (as it turned out, by sodomization) of Col. Qadaffi.”
Mr. Sailer, if you are content with labeling a politician’s decision making in one event as catastrophic, then by extension of YOUR logic, you must also characterize this president’s record in a similar event. But that would, once again, take some NOTICING on your part.
https://www.france24.com/en/20191217-placating-turkey-trump-admin-says-doesn-t-recognize-armenian-genocide
https://www.thejournal.ie/explainer-syria-turkey-kurds-4845405-Oct2019/
Biden’s VP pick is going to become pres by 2023. The Democrats are the party of big business, but as a professional diplomat Rice is dialled into that part of big business that is most concerned with foreign policy: Wall Street. She gives an overarching view of the consensus among the investors such as index funds that are now committed to China for future profits. Harris will also be a disaster, but more in the realm of domestic politics and during her second term, and so her second term is likely to be followed by a Trump style populist backlash President. Rice would keep the lid on things and is much more dangerous for it
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .Replies: @Jack D, @Escher, @Jim Don Bob
As well as the ins and outs of the business.
Sorry.
All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends. These crooks are even worse – they have the power of the state behind them now. Putin’s own ill gotten wealth is estimated in the billions. Meanwhile the average Russian still has nothing. Russia has the potential to be one of the richest countries on earth. It’s a not very crowded place with vast natural resources and plenty of human capital. But is is destined to be misruled.
* Berezovsky, using the United States as his model?Replies: @Hibernian, @Jesse
The Allies were concerned that there would be Iraqi style Nazi resistance to a post-war occupation and felt that control of food was an important lever. This lasted only for a brief period once it became clear that post-war resistance was going to be minimal – the Nazis focused mainly on getting their big-wigs out of the country (mainly to S. America) and made no serious efforts at an uprising. Due to Cold War competition, the Americans quickly shifted gears.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany
So we are talking about a very brief period in which conditions were bound to be chaotic anyway in the aftermath of the war. There was never any widespread starvation to the point where people were actually dying. A Weight Watchers diet is 1200 calories and no one dies from it. If America could be put on a 1200 calorie diet for a year, the public health implications would be fantastically positive. OTOH, two million Soviet prisoners of war were literally starved to death by German forces over the winter of 1941/42.
Those people were being starved to death.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .Replies: @Jack D, @Escher, @Jim Don Bob
She also learnt how to see men for what they are, and to fake it till she made it.
Wall Street Journal is in no moral position to question Susan Rice on Libya and Benghazi. The neocons at WSJ were cheerleaders of the calamitous NATO attack on Libya.
Thanks for that info.
As to other parts of Morgenthau’s Plan, returning to a pastoral lifestyle wouldn’t have been a bad thing then or now, for the Germans.
Perhaps Henry was one of those people who never ventured out of Manhattan’s central Business district in their lives?
Russia is never, ever going to sign on to a plan like that. Which, incidentally, is why the US 'Establishment' is at war with Russia nowadays.Replies: @Stan
Sean is an Israel shill. Who is he referring to when he says “we”.
England didn’t fare much better towards the end of the war and immediately after.
I remember my grandfather (Canada) telling stories of sending food to family as many were going hungry. They also sent basic first aid and medicine. My grandfather came to Canada in 1914 as a Barnardo Boy. Basically a child slave. He lucked out and ended up with a good family. Strangely enough his brother was shipped over one year later and ended up in the same small town and met in church. Incredible story. His sister was shipped to Australia where she was married then murdered by her husband. No reparations ever paid for that fiasco.
https://prospect.org/politics/susan-rice-has-a-disclosure-problem/
1200 calories is okay for a lardarse watching TV, the Allies were using the Germans as Slave Labour, and 1200 cals is very optimistic anyway.
Those people were being starved to death.
Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .Replies: @Jack D, @Escher, @Jim Don Bob
Willie taught her when to come and when to go. He taught her to be flexible, when to take matters into her own hands, when to bend over to help, and when to lie back and let things take their course. He helped her improve her oral skills and work a room when necessary.
That’s all I got for now. Next!
>> I think the rise in gold is related to the possibility of Biden winning the election . If Trump wins I expect gold to drop back to the low teens at least .<<
While it is tempting to believe that, Biden has been touted for months as "heavily favored" despite flaky polling. What voter who favors Trump is going to tell a pollster that?
I don't know what is driving metals but it is mainly paper metal, not physical. My gold bug friend says "you can't get physical gold" though he hasn't tried. Nor I. I'm not sure how close to $2,000/oz you're going to receive if you try to sell a nice fresh gold Eagle.
What is surprising isn't metals (I think these prices reflect hedged stock positions as insurance) but the overall stock market. It isn't quite at past highs but very good lately. This doesn't seem to presage a Biden win.
I have yet to see any discussion of a "Biden Bull Mkt" so this is puzzling. Even discounting the fact that he's not the Marxist buffoon he pretends to be for his enablers, all of his crazy tax ideas and market "management" for social policy, etc. So either Wall St. is very cynical or they don't think this Biden Wave is real. I'm leaning towards the latter.
“All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends.”
This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.
Life expectancy has recovered, alcoholism is down, the collapse in living standards has been stopped and reversed. Anatoly Karlin has the details.
Furthermore he’s restored Russian national pride, at one stage sunken to the point where Time magazine could boast on the front page about US advisers electing Yeltsin, and NATO was serious about Georgia becoming a member.
To have taken the country back from the robber barons* is an epic feat, and one day, if Russia lives, operas will be written about it.
On the way he’s been forced to do deals with some of the oligarchs – the deal being “keep out of politics and under no circumstances act against Russian national interests as I define them”. He kept his word, and they’ve mostly kept theirs, the ones who haven’t are in London or in jail.
He’s a historical titan, and the problem great men (and Russia) have will be his succession.
* Berezovsky, using the United States as his model?
https://twitter.com/IrishTimesLife/status/1290895315847901184
First response on 4chan: "she was confused by the lack of public $@%!ting." And I would add, catastrophic public transport crashes.Replies: @Dan Hayes, @3g4me, @JohnnyWalker123
@121 J.Ross: Subcons and Han, plagues across the earth.
I knew a Rwandan Hutu man and a Burundian (mostly Tutsi) woman in the '90s. We all got along, but an American BFF of hers told me that he had told her once, "We should have killed all of you!"
Whether that was in a fit of anger or his default position I never found out. But keep in mind there are real people behind those big African smiles.
The Burundian lady is a nun now, by the way.Replies: @Herzog
Thanks for the reminder. I was vaguely aware that there had been several back-and-forth rounds of mass killings between H and T, but wasn’t aware specifically of the 1972 “events.”
Also, Burundi has tended to be obscured by Rwanda in the Western consciousness (and perhaps in the non-Western one as well), but of course it has a history — often a bloody history — of its own. I just can’t quite muster the energy to keep track of the details, having my day job and all that.
When I briefly visited Rwanda about a dozen years ago, I was stunned by its natural beauty. And yes, I’m well aware that I’m not the first to say so. What was more of a surprise was that the landscapes began to change, to become Rwandan effectively, already in southern Uganda, perhaps forty miles before the actual border. And as landscapes are to a considerable extent man-made, likely there is also ethnic continuity between southern Uganda and Rwanda. Which would in turn help explain Ugandan support for the Kagame Tutsis, all the more so because Museveni of Uganda is from his country’s south himself.
https://affairpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Susan-Rice-Stanford-yearbook-portrait.jpgReplies: @3g4me
@199 Jane Plain: Add in a nose job, skin whitening cream, massive hair relaxer, etc. Rice, like most black women, wants to be black . . ish. They all rant about their sainted African ancestors, but they want to look like quadroons.
@220 Colin Wright: Check her college photo posted in Jane Plain’s comment and see if you still assert she’s ‘mostly’ White. 35% at best, plus surgery and tons of chemicals.
You need to check out what actual, full-on 100% blacks look like.
If you're like most whites, your notion of 'black' is a composite of the 'blacks' you see who are media figures, 'black' politicians and machers, and those 'blacks' intelligent enough to participate in white society: cops, neighbors, school teachers, token managers, et al.
That is to say, your idea of 'black' would be about 50% black. Yeah -- by that standard Susan Rice might look pretty black.
He taught her that ultimately, you can only get enough juice by juggling the political balls while at the same time patiently honing the staff for maximum performance.
Sorry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_J._Rice
Susan Rice’s mother is Lois Rice born in Portland Maine to Jamaican parents. She is considered one of the first black women to serve on corporate boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_RiceReplies: @syonredux, @Clyde
Here is a photo of Susan Rice with family members, including her mother and father. You can see her mother is pretty light while her father is a bit darker than Obama.
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/557109416374309402/
While it is tempting to believe that, Biden has been touted for months as "heavily favored" despite flaky polling. What voter who favors Trump is going to tell a pollster that?
I don't know what is driving metals but it is mainly paper metal, not physical. My gold bug friend says "you can't get physical gold" though he hasn't tried. Nor I. I'm not sure how close to $2,000/oz you're going to receive if you try to sell a nice fresh gold Eagle.
What is surprising isn't metals (I think these prices reflect hedged stock positions as insurance) but the overall stock market. It isn't quite at past highs but very good lately. This doesn't seem to presage a Biden win.
I have yet to see any discussion of a "Biden Bull Mkt" so this is puzzling. Even discounting the fact that he's not the Marxist buffoon he pretends to be for his enablers, all of his crazy tax ideas and market "management" for social policy, etc. So either Wall St. is very cynical or they don't think this Biden Wave is real. I'm leaning towards the latter.Replies: @donut
You can get physical gold from APMEX in OK City as I have done for the last 16 years or so and after I retired in 2013 and my income plummeted they bought it back no problem for within a few dollars of the market price . I bought ETF Swiss Francs in 2007 and they’ve held up , Royal Dutch Shell has held up over the years but is declining a little . EXXON should be doing great as the Russians had a massive deal with them to develop their Arctic reserves but the idiotic sanctions killed that . GAZPROM the Russian State oil Company prices have suffered a little from our hostile policies but not a lot and I would , will bet that once NORDSTEAM 1 and 2 come on line their stock price will jump and Turk Stream is on line as well . Also the Russians are set to supply the Chinks with gas as well . I know there are many more knowledgeable guys in here than me , but
I’ve got lots of gold and mining shares but they’ve run up a lot and I won’t buy any more at today’s prices. I’ve been putting new money into Exxon. I think natural gas will come back and they have a lot.
@240 Jack D: You are not merely predictably pedantic, you are also predictably vengeful. Endlessly exaggerating your own people’s accomplishments and woes and minimizing that of others. Regardless of precisely who/what started WWII and how it was conducted, the German civilian population suffered terrible privation after the war, including massive theft, rape, disease, and malnutrition, including starvation. This was far from merely the typical chaos in the aftermath of a war; it was planned – in large part by Morgenthau and his fellows throughout the Roosevelt administration (and is well documented in Giles McDonogh’s “After the Reich: The Brutal History of the Allied Occupation”).
I quoted his “most accomplished” statement, not “in his pre-political” statement. It wasn’t an “attack.” I feel Jefferson is more “accomplished.” That’s my $2 take.
>I quoted the "most accomplished" and not the "pre-political"
THAT WAS THE SAME STATEMENT! Am I on kether now? This isn't even in the rules of acquisition!
U.S. involvement in Rwanda would have been a huge disaster.
I should probably treat your question as rhetorical, but I will answer regardless.
We certainly don’t need to lay awake at night regarding the Russians.
However, we should be concerned about their export sales of highly effective systems to current and potential opponents.
The proliferation of S-200/300/400 SAM systems and the myriad of Su-27/30/35 Flanker variants are the two most notable examples of this practice.
Also:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJjbBHB6aPQReplies: @MEH 0910
https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RIPKamala&src=trend_click
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292618189701033984
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292626720256921600
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292617000443949061
https://twitter.com/mitongafur/status/1292611462830096387Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910
I remember my grandfather (Canada) telling stories of sending food to family as many were going hungry. They also sent basic first aid and medicine. My grandfather came to Canada in 1914 as a Barnardo Boy. Basically a child slave. He lucked out and ended up with a good family. Strangely enough his brother was shipped over one year later and ended up in the same small town and met in church. Incredible story. His sister was shipped to Australia where she was married then murdered by her husband. No reparations ever paid for that fiasco.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Rationing in England didn’t end until 1954.
‘Colin Wright: Check her college photo posted in Jane Plain’s comment and see if you still assert she’s ‘mostly’ White. 35% at best, plus surgery and tons of chemicals.’
You need to check out what actual, full-on 100% blacks look like.
If you’re like most whites, your notion of ‘black’ is a composite of the ‘blacks’ you see who are media figures, ‘black’ politicians and machers, and those ‘blacks’ intelligent enough to participate in white society: cops, neighbors, school teachers, token managers, et al.
That is to say, your idea of ‘black’ would be about 50% black. Yeah — by that standard Susan Rice might look pretty black.
Ladies and gentlemen, the 47th President if the United Tates ... President Stacey Abrams.Replies: @MBlanc46
Certainly possible. My guess is still Harris. But, beyond that, I don’t have a clue.
As to other parts of Morgenthau's Plan, returning to a pastoral lifestyle wouldn't have been a bad thing then or now, for the Germans.
Perhaps Henry was one of those people who never ventured out of Manhattan's central Business district in their lives?Replies: @Hibernian
He played gentleman farmer in the Hudson Valley. A wolrdview limited to NYC wasn’t his problem.
* Berezovsky, using the United States as his model?Replies: @Hibernian, @Jesse
Or assassinated in the UK or Russia.
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292617000443949061
https://twitter.com/mitongafur/status/1292611462830096387Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910
https://twitter.com/i/events/1292634096712077313
If Trump is reelected, I will be thoroughly impressed and consider them as the lone Superpower. There is absolutely nothing to fear from China as long as Putin/Russia are around.
>”most accomplished pre-political”
>I quoted the “most accomplished” and not the “pre-political”
THAT WAS THE SAME STATEMENT! Am I on kether now? This isn’t even in the rules of acquisition!
Oxford and Cambridge were better at teaching business?
The first sentence of Brown’s Op/Ed reads:
Is Willie a secret iSteve reader?
like a boss :
I try to explain to Zoomers how close we came to a war in the Middle East vs. the Russians and they can't seem to grasp it. Because Orange Man Bad or something.
"No fly" zones sort of work when a country has 100% air supremacy over a very weak adversary and even then it's a short-term thing at best. The "no fly" fetish just shows how cargo-cultish US leadership has become.Replies: @Anonymous
As I recall, the Turks were shooting down Russian airplanes with no reaction from Moscow.
The yanking (Matron!) of Turkey’s leash has been evident for all to see since the single, repeat single event to which you refer.
Africom is run out of Stuttgart Germany. Ear to the ground.
* Berezovsky, using the United States as his model?Replies: @Hibernian, @Jesse
While I’m delighted that Russia has, for instance, drastically lowered its alcohol consumption, it’s not exactly a great win for Putinism. The comparisons are between now and the most catastrophic years, socially and economically, in Russia’s recent history. They’d have has to work hard to *not* reduce alcohol consumption, and increase mental wellbeing, from such a nadir.
I wish the Russians well and have no wish to interfere in their internal workings. Russiagate is obvious lies. But that doesn’t make Putin a good guy, decent leader, or someone we need to be (seen to be) in bed with. We can ignore them and focus on our own politics. No one’s coming to save us, and there’s no reason to expect that they would. What works for them (if it indeed does) is irrelevant for us.
Which catastrophic years were the result of following "Western" advice.
"that doesn’t make Putin a good guy, decent leader, or someone we need to be (seen to be) in bed with"
From the perspective of the Russian people, he's a great leader. I've zero desire to be seen in bed with him, I'm not a Russian and don't want to be, and I don't look to Russia to save the West (after WW1/2 they must be fed up with that anyway).
But our elites, discovering how much they are hated by a substantial number of voters, are attempting to divert that hatred towards Russia. Anyone joining in the anti-Russian chorus is supporting the elites (who have driven down our standards of living, opened our borders and sent our factories to China) against the working people.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/08/the-virus-piggybacked-on-racism-why-did-covid-19-hit-bame-families-so-hardReplies: @Rob McX, @Mr McKenna, @Gabe Ruth
Guess that’s good news for Columbus and colonists, right?
I didn’t say if they were above or below ground!
https://twitter.com/IrishTimesLife/status/1290895315847901184
First response on 4chan: "she was confused by the lack of public $@%!ting." And I would add, catastrophic public transport crashes.Replies: @Dan Hayes, @3g4me, @JohnnyWalker123
Irish Times or (((Irish)) Times?
“The comparisons are between now and the most catastrophic years, socially and economically, in Russia’s recent history. “
Which catastrophic years were the result of following “Western” advice.
“that doesn’t make Putin a good guy, decent leader, or someone we need to be (seen to be) in bed with”
From the perspective of the Russian people, he’s a great leader. I’ve zero desire to be seen in bed with him, I’m not a Russian and don’t want to be, and I don’t look to Russia to save the West (after WW1/2 they must be fed up with that anyway).
But our elites, discovering how much they are hated by a substantial number of voters, are attempting to divert that hatred towards Russia. Anyone joining in the anti-Russian chorus is supporting the elites (who have driven down our standards of living, opened our borders and sent our factories to China) against the working people.
For what its worth, Robert Novak in “Prince of Darkness” wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington. Not in a corruption sense, but in a reflexive “why tell the truth when you can lie” sense.
He gave a few examples in his book, then expanded on them in post-publishing interviews:
John Hawkins: Do you think that Carter’s frequent lying and the fact that he seemed to get away with it, helped influence Bill Clinton to lie so often when he was President?
Robert Novak: Well, I think Bill Clinton was a minor league liar compared to Jimmy Carter. Carter would just lie for the sake of lying. He was absolutely incredible.
I put a lot of the cases in the book — I couldn’t put all of them in — but my two favorite cases are in the book. I had written a column detailing nine separate lies by Carter and he told another reporter that I had apologized to him for it. That was just an absolute lie.
Go figure. An establishment conservative columnist attacking a liberal Democrat.Replies: @William Badwhite
“For what its worth, Robert Novak in “Prince of Darkness” wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington.”
Go figure. An establishment conservative columnist attacking a liberal Democrat.
For the uninitiated, the Irish Times was (and is) the mouthpiece of the British Ascendancy. No need to invoke pernicious non-gentiles as there are plenty of gentiles available to do the dirty work necessitated in indoctrinated reconstituted Ireland!
The Dem VP nominee was picked a few days ago.
They are just waiting for Biden to have a “good day” so they can talk to him about it.
Yes, but read The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its impact on world history’s chapters on the “British Ascendancy”. They weren’t British, and there was a certain special sauce that made them ascendant.
Your recollection is, let’s be charitable, patchy.
The yanking (Matron!) of Turkey’s leash has been evident for all to see since the single, repeat single event to which you refer.
How did you come to that conclusion about her sexuality?
Robert Novak was one of the last honest reporters. Not a “Journalist”, but a reporter.
I miss him, Mike Royko, Jack Germond, etc., even when I disagreed with them.
Now we have gay AA dimwits like Don Lemon.
2) And yes, I think Jimmie Carter is a sanctimonious POS who was a terrible president and who has never forgiven America for not re-electing him. I regret voting for him.
I guess most readers here know this, but for those who perhaps don’t, Robert Novak was Christopher Caldwell’s father-in-law.
Why don’t you like Han? You think they’re as bad as Subcons?
Go figure. An establishment conservative columnist attacking a liberal Democrat.Replies: @William Badwhite
Good catch Corky! In 50+ years in Washington surely Carter was the only liberal Democrat Novak ran across. You’re special.
It’s official.. Sleepy Joe has picked Kamala Harris.
https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292617000443949061
https://twitter.com/mitongafur/status/1292611462830096387Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910
I wonder how many blog posts iSteve has in the hopper on this pick moving forward…
The way many of you think we should select our political leaders leaves me somewhat dumbfounded.
Yes! Y U no like Han!! Best of all chinee!
Jack, you know better than this. People who are already malnourished aren’t showing up at Weight Watchers to be put on a starvation diet.
Joe Biden and Kamala Harris it is.
– or –
JOE BLOW!
The Great Humanitarian
Herbert Hoover's Food Relief Efforts
Note that this site is at Cornell College in his native Iowa, not that Johnny-come-lately out in Ithaca. The founders were cousins.
There's also this: https://www.hoover.org/about/missionhistoryReplies: @Inquiring Mind, @MEH 0910
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover#World_War_I_and_aftermath