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With Karen Bass, an obscure L.A. Congresswoman, starting to fade in the Biden Veep hunt due to her Fidel Castro-worship likely being inconvenient in the purple state of Florida, the two most prominent Black Women left appear to be Obama Administration foreign policy maven Susan Rice and California Senator Kamala Harris.

Neither appear to be close to 50% sub-Saharan by DNA.

Harris is half Tamil and her Stanford economics professor father is from the Malcolm Gladwellish mulatto middle-class of Jamaica. (Rice is also half-Jamaican.)

Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son, the president of the Stanford Young Republicans, is pale (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).

She is from W.E.B. Du Bois’ Talented Tenth (or, more likely, Talented One Percent).

Rice isn’t an absurd choice for VP. Unfortunately, her track record is poor: Libya, 2011. From Wikipedia:

As the 2011 Libyan Civil War progressed, the United States and its allies offered a choice for Colonel Muammar Gaddafi and his aides: step down from power or face an international response. Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, criticizing his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as “frankly, delusional”.[55] In a closed-door Security Council meeting in April 2011, Rice reportedly stated that Gaddafi loyalists engaged in atrocities, including terrorizing the population with sexual violence, and that Gaddafi’s troops has been issued Viagra.[56] Together with National Security Council figure Samantha Power, who already supported the U.S.-led military intervention in Libya, and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who came to support it, the three overcame internal opposition from Defense Secretary Robert Gates, security adviser Thomas E. Donilon, and counterterrorism adviser John Brennan, to have the administration advance a UN proposal to impose a no-fly zone over Libya and authorize other military actions as necessary.[18][57]

On March 17, 2011, the UK, France and Lebanon joined the U.S. to vote for United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 while Brazil, Germany, and India joined permanent Security Council members China and Russia in abstaining. Rice and Clinton played major roles in gaining approval for the resolution.[18][58] Clinton said the same day that establishing a no-fly zone over Libya would require the bombing of air defenses. Rice said, “we are interested in a broad range of actions that will effectively protect civilians and increase the pressure on the Gaddafi regime to halt the killing and to allow the Libyan people to express themselves in their aspirations for the future freely and peacefully”.[59]

The No-Fly Zone obviously meant that the mighty U.S. was committed to the overthrow and murder (as it turned out, by sodomization) of Col. Qadaffi. In turn, the murder of Gadaphee, who had made a deal with Italy’s Berlusconi to reduce sub-Saharan migration thru the Mediterranean, led to to the ensuing migrant crisis.

So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic.

On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.

 
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  1. Off-topic. New in the chronicles of “genetics have nothing to do with the higher rate of black etc people dying, it is all white racism’s fault”.

    ‘The virus piggybacked on racism’: why did Covid-19 hit BAME families so hard?
    Chaturvedi is determined to quash one misconception. “Some suggest that genes can account for the excess risk of Covid-19 in BAME groups, and I just want to say that’s not the case. Genetic heterogeneity is far greater within than between populations. This is a story about social inequality, not biology.”

    This woman is a professor of clinical epidemiology at University College London…

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/08/the-virus-piggybacked-on-racism-why-did-covid-19-hit-bame-families-so-hard

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    @Mishima Zaibatsu


    Genetic heterogeneity is far greater within than between populations.
     
    Professional race deniers must have a shortcut key for that sentence.
    , @Mr McKenna
    @Mishima Zaibatsu

    Before too long, 'science' will mean 'everything which is not science' and vice versa.

    , @Gabe Ruth
    @Mishima Zaibatsu

    Guess that's good news for Columbus and colonists, right?

  2. In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.

    Kamala Sutra. Horizontal Harris. Are we still allowed to use the word ‘mistress’ in our brave new world? Or is it passé?

    • Replies: @Lot
    @Digital Samizdat

    Like the Bourbon kings, Willie was amicably separated but not divorced from his wife.

    Kamala had the honorable position of Willie’s Chief Mistress (maîtresse-en-titre), not one of his side pieces (petites maîtresses).

    https://allstarbio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Capture-4.jpg

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/27/17/9045328-6637315-image-a-18_1548611209044.jpg

    https://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/fullsizeoutput_af5.jpeg

    Replies: @bruce county

    , @SMK
    @Digital Samizdat

    Sleeping with a ogre like Willie Brown to advance one's political career is repulsive but not nearly as awful as invading Libya and murdering Gaddafi and creating a refuge crisis that plagues and blights Western Europe. Besides, Harris is sexy for a woman in her mid-50's. If Biden must pick a mulatto or quadroon as his running mate -who'll soon be president if Biden is elected as his dementia progresses and will ultimately render him so impaired that he won't be able to give speeches or answer questions at press conferences and will be removed from office under the 25th Amendment- let it be a sexy quadroon who's 1/4 white and half Mumbai Indian with an effusive smile and stylish wardrobe.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    , @ben tillman
    @Digital Samizdat


    In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.
     
    "In various positions" -- LOL. Somehow you significantly improved on what has gotten to be an old joke around here.

    Replies: @black sea

  3. It’s the ADOSs driving the bus, which is why all these other pseudo-blacks and other PoCs, like Fauxcahontas, aren’t gaining any traction.

    Ladies and gentlemen, the 47th President if the United Tates … President Stacey Abrams.

    • LOL: Yancey Ward
    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @The Alarmist

    Certainly possible. My guess is still Harris. But, beyond that, I don’t have a clue.

  4. LINKBOOKMARKHarris is half Tamil and her Stanford economics professor father is from the Malcolm Gladwellish mulatto middle-class of Jamaica. (Harris is also half-Jamaican.)

    ? Redundancy?

    • Replies: @Cato
    @IHTG

    Sugar was a highly profitable crop in the 17th and 18th centuries; tobacco, not nearly as profitable. The Caribbean paid the highest prices, for the highest quality slaves. The most desired slaves came from the Gold Coast, present-day Ghana, and most of these went to Jamaica and Barbados. Slaves were driven hard in the Caribbean, and mortality was much higher there than in the North American colonies; the slaves that survived to reproduce, from this superior stock, were the best of the best. Hence the superiority of Jamaicans over North American blacks.

  5. When the likes of Harris and Rice are described as “moderates”, it’s looking more and more like the best we can hope for is Mensheviks.

  6. Susan Rice? If you want a black female “neo-con”, why not Condoleeza Rice then. At least she plays piano well. Con dolcezza.

  7. >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I’d much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn’t translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan’s clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won’t mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    • Replies: @El Dato
    @nebulafox


    After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won’t mess with you.
     
    I never closely followed the soap opera on this, but wasn't that the CHEMICAL warfare program?

    It was all show and no talk and a marriage made in hell: The West could tell its plebes that Ghaddafi had rallied in the Big Disarmement and Anti-Proliferation effort, Ghaddafi could look both magnanimous & musucular enough to actually command a "weapons of mass destruction program", however nonexistent.

    Of course, never cut a deal with the Empire. Unlike the Mafia, they don't keep their word.

    Adam Curtis on this:

    https://youtu.be/fh2cDKyFdyU?t=6677

    "HyperNormalisation (2016 + subs) by Adam Curtis - A different experience of reality FULL DOCUMENTARY" from 1:51.17

    Susan Rice has another problem: She's either so rabidly anti-Russia that she will be licking that Red Button as soon as possible or will say anything to get a political leg up. Both are not good.

    Susan Rice makes claim Russians could be behind violent George Floyd demonstrations

    "National Security Council figure Samantha Power"

    I misread that as

    "National Sexuality Council figure Samantha Power"

    Do I need to get my mind out of the gutter or what's going on?

    , @dearieme
    @nebulafox

    Herbert Hoover was ... probably the most accomplished [man] who ever inhabited the White House

    Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn't the web wonderful?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps

    , @Almost Missouri
    @nebulafox

    Agree.



    Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, criticizing his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as “frankly, delusional”.
     

     
    If Gaddafi was "delusional", how does one characterize the pro-Mugabe author of The Commonwealth initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980 Implications for international peacekeeping? Ms. Rice seems to have a talent for taking middle-tier, functioning if unlovely countries, and turning them into violent basket case hellholes. Given that the US is currently descending into "middle-tier, functioning if unlovely" status, the Rice treatment may be the worst possible prescription.

    So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic.
     
    Indeed, the entire record of the affirmative-action Obama administration's three affirmative-action ladies (Clinton, Rice, Powers) is 100% disaster. Unmoored from any real world goals, the Three Horsewomen of the Apocalypse lurched from catastrophe to catastrophe, learning nothing, forgetting nothing, indulging in what Brendan O'Neill aptly called "war as therapy".

    On our more immediate question of Biden's choice of VP—and therefore the unelected President of the United States as Biden's senility becomes unhidable—in the choice between the clueless wonk Rice versus spiteful and vicious Harris, Rice may be the lesser of two evils. OTOH, Rice's well-meaning demeanor may create an undesirable Obama Effect, where a pseudo-mild exterior cloaks and succors especially wicked policies. Harris has the dubious virtue of disguising her nastiness poorly.

    Replies: @sayless, @John Derbyshire

    , @Patrick Boyle
    @nebulafox

    The myth lives on. Jimmy Carter was widely hailed at the time as a nuclear engineer. That's preposterous. Carter had been an officer in a conventional submarine. He had had no background in the new nuclear subs whatsoever but he wanted to fill out his resume to prepare for his next possible promotion. So he took a night course in something like a general survey course for business men who wanted to learn some nuclear energy terms. So his one survey night class at a junior college got inflated by his campaign staff to "Nuclear Engineer".

    Replies: @JRB, @Hibernian, @Anonymous

    , @Hypnotoad666
    @nebulafox

    And don't forget, the Libyan fiasco also broke our word to Russia. At that time Russia was playing nice and had agreed to support an international no-fly zone on the condition that it was only to protect refugees. We double-crossed them by bombing Ghadaffi's forces and disintegrating the whole country.

    This was humiliating to Russia on many levels, and they have never forgotten it.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    , @Muggles
    @nebulafox

    I was in Tripoli twice (or maybe three times) back in the Qaddafi era.

    (I like the Q name, not G; he is about the only major nation leader whose name was constantly being spelled differently in the western media, though not usually in the same article.)

    It was okay but I recommended our oil drilling business leave asap on my last visit. Six months later Qaddafi kicked out all of the Americans.

    One thing stood out. On departing the Tripoli airport you passed through a non functional scanner. No one checked your carry on or performed any kind of security check other than passport/visa. The secret police (or so they seemed) were even helpful. No one was hijacking aircraft out of Tripoli.

    Hillary and S. Rice screwed that place up royally, like Bush did with Iraq. "Better the devil you know..."

    , @Ron Mexico
    @nebulafox

    Hoover "the most accomplished." Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross

    , @ben tillman
    @nebulafox


    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration.
     
    It was not "our" decision. We had nothing to do with it.
    , @dfordoom
    @nebulafox


    in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.
     
    Yep, I totally agree with that.
  8. Rice is preferable to Harris, though she is not really ideal.

    Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.

    Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.

    Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.

    • Replies: @guest007
    @Bucky

    Everyone should go back and read the stories about the Harris campaign. Senator Harris hired family members, failed to control her staff, and did not know what she was doing. Before that Harris had never competed in a competitive race but was elected due to be selected by the establishment. Harris is ambitious but not driven enough to achieve her goals.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Fluesterwitz

    , @Not Only Wrathful
    @Bucky

    Harris was a good Attorney General of California. She tackled crime. Rice was a poor NSA. She got her big decisions all wrong.

    Both seem perfectly pleasant people, who, if our political culture was healthier, would adequately pursue reasonable policies.

    , @Muggles
    @Bucky

    Odd but unmentioned HBD fact.

    Both Harris and Rice are biracial. Just like Obama. Yet the MSM always refers to them as black (or now, Black.) Obama was the "first biracial president" (though some argue otherwise) not the first "black/Black" president.

    It's like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.

    Kinda makes you think...

    Replies: @Mario Partisan, @Flip

    , @Bernard
    @Bucky

    I myself would prefer the less outwardly competent of the two, which is Harris. Rice is more eloquent and has more stature, which would be of greater value to the MSM, who will deify either. Harris is a harder sell.

  9. Ain’t it funny ,three women wanted war and three men didn’t……they’ll never buy the movie rights to that.

    • Agree: bruce county
  10. I’m sure her marriage is stable since she’s obviously a lesbian. Wonder if she’s going to spend the next two months in the tanning booth to dispel any doubt of her POC-ness.

    • Replies: @Mr. Grey
    @Frank G

    At first I thought you were talking about Harris, who only conveniently got married before her Senate run. The only other relationship of hers that I've been able to find is her latching on to the married SF politician Willie Brown, who made all the right connections for her.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    , @LMD
    @Frank G

    How did you come to that conclusion about her sexuality?

  11. All you need to know about Rice: She was the African desk at State when the Rwanda Genocide occurred. Except that she told Clinton not to say that because then the US might be obligated to do something about it.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @John Foster


    All you need to know about Rice: She was the African desk at State when the Rwanda Genocide occurred. Except that she told Clinton not to say that because then the US might be obligated to do something about it.


     

    And we didn't. Wow-- she did something right!
    , @Not Only Wrathful
    @John Foster

    What could the US have done?

    Immediately invaded a land-locked country in deepest Africa that nobody had heard of, and suddenly control all ground at the village level to keep squads of machete wielding lunatics apart?

    Who was good and who was bad and how could an American tell the difference so as to know which one to shoot?

    Seems like Rice at least had the sense of scale and humility to accept when something couldn't be done.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Mr. Anon
    @John Foster

    I have heard it said that the genocide narrative is false - that it was really a civil war with an armed incursion by Tutsi based in Uganda, which the west labeled a genocide by the Hutu against the Tutsi because the West favored the Tutsi. I haven't looked into it in any detail, so I can't vouch for that view. And honestly, I don't really care. America certainly doesn't need to get mixed up in Africa (although given that the Pentagon now has an "Africom", I expect that we will). If Rice kept us out of that business, then good for her.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mario Partisan, @workforlivn

    , @PSR
    @John Foster

    U.S. involvement in Rwanda would have been a huge disaster.

  12. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won’t mess with you.

    I never closely followed the soap opera on this, but wasn’t that the CHEMICAL warfare program?

    It was all show and no talk and a marriage made in hell: The West could tell its plebes that Ghaddafi had rallied in the Big Disarmement and Anti-Proliferation effort, Ghaddafi could look both magnanimous & musucular enough to actually command a “weapons of mass destruction program”, however nonexistent.

    Of course, never cut a deal with the Empire. Unlike the Mafia, they don’t keep their word.

    Adam Curtis on this:

    “HyperNormalisation (2016 + subs) by Adam Curtis – A different experience of reality FULL DOCUMENTARY” from 1:51.17

    Susan Rice has another problem: She’s either so rabidly anti-Russia that she will be licking that Red Button as soon as possible or will say anything to get a political leg up. Both are not good.

    Susan Rice makes claim Russians could be behind violent George Floyd demonstrations

    “National Security Council figure Samantha Power”

    I misread that as

    “National Sexuality Council figure Samantha Power”

    Do I need to get my mind out of the gutter or what’s going on?

  13. The Undertaker faces off against Kamala in a Coffin Match

    • Thanks: Chris Mallory
    • LOL: bruce county
    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RIPKamala&src=trend_click

    https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292617000443949061

    https://twitter.com/mitongafur/status/1292611462830096387

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

  14. Her … son, the president of the Stanford …

    He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?

    • LOL: Hypnotoad666
    • Replies: @Hypnotoad666
    @dearieme


    He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?
     
    The only group more favored than blacks in elite college admissions are the children of high-ranking DC insiders. So with both boxes checked, fughettaboutit.
    , @Buffalo Joe
    @dearieme

    deari, remember privilege only pertains to Whites, although Susan Rice's life is enviable.

    , @Sent from my iStevePhone
    @dearieme

    Stanford was founded to memorialize the guy’s son who died from COVID-1884 doing his young-buck “grand tour” of Europe IIRC.

    I came up in the 80s and can remember how the U. would draw chortles of “football farm” and “rich kid nursery” from Southern Californian toffs... but venture-capital cocaine is clearly a hell of a drug

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

  15. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    Herbert Hoover was … probably the most accomplished [man] who ever inhabited the White House

    Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn’t the web wonderful?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @dearieme



    Herbert Hoover was … probably the most accomplished [man] who ever inhabited the White House
     
    Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn’t the web wonderful?
     
    Me too. Garfield, though, deserves points for having devised an original proof for the Pythagorean Theorem.


    I also never knew until yesterday that Hoover's VP, Charles Curtis, was a half-breed Kansan. So Faith Spotted Eagle was only the second "Native American" to receive an electoral vote. (And the fourth woman. Unless the states reported in reverse order in 2017; in that case, she'd be the third.)

    Curtis was also the last VP or POTUS to be born in a territory. Obama missed by three years.


    Charles Curtis: America’s Indian Vice President

    Charles Curtis - Kansapedia - Kansas Historical Society

    Mathematical Treasure: James A. Garfield's Proof of the Pythagorean Theorem

    1928, 1932, 1936, 1976, 1996-- any other years with a Kansan on a major ticket?

    Oh, yeah... I always forget which Abilene Ike was from!

    , @Captain Tripps
    @dearieme

    Coolidge is underrated.

  16. Well said, Nebulafox, and spot on. Let us also not forgot these vile words by one of the authors of the Libya mess, the odious HRC.

  17. Susan Rice’s father is Emmett Rice, he’s been dead for almost 10 years. He was an economist and was on the Fed Reserve Board.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_J._Rice

    Susan Rice’s mother is Lois Rice born in Portland Maine to Jamaican parents. She is considered one of the first black women to serve on corporate boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Rice

    • Replies: @syonredux
    @Ed


    Susan Rice’s mother is Lois Rice born in Portland Maine to Jamaican parents. She is considered one of the first black women to serve on corporate boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Rice

     

    Make that the first Black-ish woman.....




    http://www.pvamu.edu/tiphc/wp-content/uploads/sites/107/lois-rice.jpg
    , @Clyde
    @Ed

    Here is a photo of Susan Rice with family members, including her mother and father. You can see her mother is pretty light while her father is a bit darker than Obama.

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/557109416374309402/

  18. Rice isn’t an absurd choice for VP.

    She is an absurd choice but not unusually absurd.

  19. Steve,

    Your statement that Harris served “in various positions under master politician Willie Brown” is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!

    • Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder
    @Dan Hayes

    Please let's give Steve a little credit, shall we?

    , @Bardon Kaldian
    @Dan Hayes

    It wasn't intended as Freudian slip.

    , @anon
    @Dan Hayes

    Whoa, crazy!

    , @Lot
    @Dan Hayes

    Today Mayor Brown shows he’s not done carefully, sweetly, but firmly shaping the korse of Kamala’s kareer:

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/Willie-Brown-Kamala-Harris-should-say-no-to-vice-15468145.php

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    , @Inquiring Mind
    @Dan Hayes

    How does one know all of these positions were under Willie Brown?

    , @Jim Bob Lassiter
    @Dan Hayes

    How do you know the Kamala didn't satisfy her cowgirl urges with Willie from time to time?

    , @wren
    @Dan Hayes

    A Freudian slip would be more like Kamala saying that she owes her start in politics to a big brown willie or something.

  20. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren

    Please let’s give Steve a little credit, shall we?

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  21. Not Michelle O?

    • Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Joe Magarac

    Michelle is busy shopping, which is fine with me.

    The fact that Barack has to be dragged with a rope to have a single staged, professionally-produced "chat" with the geriatric Biden is one of the things I like about him. The Obamas to their credit don't seem all that interested in DC politics any more.

  22. No, Libya is exactly the sort of small powerless country the US should be able to kick around, and the Middle East is no longer important anyway. The danger with Rice is she considers Russia to be, as she recently put it, “our arch-adversary”. In power, for she would in effect be being appointed president for three years at least, Rice will keep hammering away at the Russians supporting the Republicans. The attitude to Russia in foreign policy would be hostile.

    America simply has to bring Russia on board a Western grand alliance. Annoying though the Russians are, we need them. China is not going to attack Russia like Hitler did; we need to inveigle them away from China. A professional diplomat is going to find it easy to sidestep the real emergency to do an end run into a new cold war with Russia. While there may be a cold war with China too, the the West simply couldn’t have been buried by the USSR, so the stakes were actually very low, and the most fateful phase of of the confrontation between the US and USSR was anti communist Nixon bringing China into the World Bank system where it got capital for a economic blast off. In a nutshell, Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden’s VP pick.

    • Agree: Father Coughlin
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Sean


    Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden’s VP pick.
     
    Russia and China are not a good fit for each other - their natural position is that of competitors, not allies. They share borders and the Russians are naturally suspicious that the Chinese have their eyes on the underpopulated Russian Far East. Culturally they are like oil and water. Having two strong man dictators may make it easier to make a deal (just like Hitler was able to make a deal with Stalin) but making a deal and keeping it are two different things (as Stalin found out the hard way).

    OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. As a low trust society, any attempt to adhere to Western norms ends in chaos so Russia always reverts to strong man rule.

    Replies: @Sean, @YetAnotherAnon, @dfordoom, @Magic Dirt Resident

    , @Mr McKenna
    @Sean


    America simply has to bring Russia on board a Western grand alliance.
     
    ATM, the closest thing to a "Grand Western Alliance" is the Euro-American War on Whites.

    Russia is never, ever going to sign on to a plan like that. Which, incidentally, is why the US 'Establishment' is at war with Russia nowadays.

    Replies: @Stan

  23. Kamala is also married to a White Jewish (2 strikes) guy.

  24. In addition to her long-standing John McCain-esque support for whatever policy produces the most bodies such as in Libya, Gilad Atzmon has a write-up reminding of her role in the very recent oft-forgotten most bloody war of the post-WW2 era as well as Sudan. (Another neocon obsession)

    https://gilad.online/writings/2016/6/23/hollow-women-of-the-hegemon-part-ii-atrocity-enabling-harpies

    Susan Rice, Obama’s national security advisor, responsible for mass murders in Africa, by supporting policies that have led to the deaths of millions and the weakening of those nations’ sovereignty include: the Democratic Republic of the Congo (D.R.C.), and Sudan, the two largest nations on the continent, before the break-up of Sudan in 2011. This has resulted in a permanent destabilization of the countries of the Great Lakes region and parts of the Horn of Africa. In 1996 Rice, as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director of African Affairs, supported the armies of Rwanda and Uganda to invade D.R.C. (then Zaire), and to install Laurent Kabila as its new President. From 1997-1998 Rice returned from her first trip to the Great Lakes region as the newly installed Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs. In her role she agreed to have over 1 million Hutu refugees in UN camps inside the D.R.C. removed by the armies D.R.C. neighbors Uganda and Rwanda. Rice is quoted a saying that: “Museveni [of Uganda] and Kagame [of Rwanda] agree that the basic problem in the Great Lakes is the danger of a resurgence of genocide [referring to the Rwandan Hutus who fled to the D.R.C. after Kagame took over Rwanda—LKF], and they know how to deal with that. The only thing we have to do is look the other way.” Rice’s “looking the other way” was followed by a decade of killing and the looting in the D.R.C. by armed groups supported by Rice’s chosen “leaders” in the region, Uganda’s Yoweri Museveni and Rwanda’s Paul Kagama.

    In 1998 Rice was instrumental in orchestrating the bombing of the al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Omdurman, Sudan, just outside of Khartoum, allegedly for producing chemical weapons that could be used in terrorist attacks on the United States. Not a shred of evidence was ever found to justify the al-Shifa attack. Despite Rice’s repeating the lie that Sudan is the only state in Sub-Saharan Africa that posed a direct threat to U.S. national security interests, no evidence was ever been made public to corroborate that allegation. In fact, the U.S. intelligence community has admitted that it has no such evidence, and has collaborated with its counterparts in Sudan in fighting terrorism. Susan Rice is a good daughter of the Hegemon; her record of killing Africans is her badge of brutality, giving her a seat at the table of the Hegemon.

    It’s amazing how many of these paid sabbos goys there are.

    • Agree: Father Coughlin
    • Replies: @Father Coughlin
    @Altai

    I know I probably sound like a battered spouse, but I'm hoping that a Rice VP candidacy might induce Trump-Pence to go hard anti-war.

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @Altai

    Altai, "Great Lakes Region of Africa" as in Rochester, Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Cleveland,Detroit, Chicago and Milwaukee. That part of Africa?

  25. Hindsight is going to make this one easy.

    If Trump wins handily, even in a landslide, then the Democrats engineering Biden’s nomination becomes not explicable but obvious in its efficacy. It will have been the way for all concerned to put a period on this greatest of political scandals and allow the Democrats room to do a reset.

    I put it this way because throughout 2016 I kept asking and never got an answer as to why the Democrats wanted the problem that was Hillary? As a Trump supporter who assessed that he would win as long as he did so by an Electoral College margin too large for them to steal back on election night, my greatest fear in the fall was the Democrats going to Plan B in the fall after her flop and twitch on 9/11.

    Which brings us to why in the world is Biden their putative nominee and will they pull a ‘Torricelli’ before Election Day:

    https://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/elec02.nj.s.torricelli.race/

    I didn’t explicate any of the above because I don’t need to, anyone reasonably informed knows. Instead, per the subject of this post, it’s to suggest that the choice between Rice and ‘Heels Up’ Harris is really one of whether sailing poor Joe’s ship before Election Day is taken off the table to ensure it isn’t forced upon Biden’s handlers.

    Rice cannot headline the Democrat ticket. At least not one that isn’t going to lose in a landslide. Selecting her means it’s Biden as nominee, come what may.

    Conversely, Harris certainly can be swapped in as nominee for president. Indeed, I assume there’s a solid faction pushing for exactly that after their Potemkin Village convention nominates their Potemkin Village Idiot.

    This explains what I believe is a massive struggle behind the Democrat curtain at the moment. Anointing Harris is likely a violation of side agreements made with Cuomo, Newsom and others that the Obama and Clinton factions won’t lock up control of the parry for this years and 2024’s election cycles, win or lose.

    Choosing Rice also constrains, or at least complicates, whatever Barr has planned in the coming weeks (i.e. before September 4th) on the 2016 malefactions by the Obama Administration against Trump.

    • Replies: @eD
    @MLK

    MLK is making a mistake that I keep seeing otherwise informed commentators making.

    The process is somewhat complicated, but I will try to keep this short. A designated presidential or vice presidential nominee of the Democratic and Republican party is not a legal position, so any presidential selection rules don't apply. Only once the Electoral College (or relevant house of Congress in the event of a deadlock) elects a President and Vice President in December is Vice Presdient elect relevant if there is a presidential vacancy of some sort. If you have not been voted in by the Electoral College, you are neither the President nor Vice Presidential elect, so there is no legal requirement for you to be replaced.

    If the Democrats nominate Biden, under the party by-laws, which are what is relevant, can designate another presidential nominee at any time before the Electoral College votes. Note that this is before the Electoral College vote, it can occur after ordinary voters have voted (for the Electors). This need not be whoever they have nominated for Vice President, who has nothing to do with this.

    The only reason this comes up is that up until now, 1984 being the only possible exception, the political parties have been careful not to nominate obviously senile people for President. But if a party insists on doing this with the intention of doing a switcheroo later, they can do the switch for anyone up until the Electoral College votes. Whoever they nominate for Vice President is not important until then.

    , @eD
    @MLK

    John Michael Greer wrote once that the Democrats and Republicans have a long standing agreement to switch the White House back and forth between the two parties on every eight years. That would explain why the presidential nominees on the "wrong" years since the Cold War ended, the ones that are nominated to throw the election (Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney, H. Clinton, Biden) were either undermined by their own parties, exactly the wrong candidate for that year, or otherwise deeply flawed. Political scientist Walter Karp had the same theory (https://www.amazon.com/Indispensable-Enemies-Politics-Misrule-America/dp/1879957132), it may have been where Greer picked it up.

    This election would follow the pattern, except the Donks are really overdoing it, and it seems that neither major party nominee are supposed to win the election.

    Replies: @MLK

  26. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    Agree.

    Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, criticizing his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as “frankly, delusional”.

    If Gaddafi was “delusional”, how does one characterize the pro-Mugabe author of The Commonwealth initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980 Implications for international peacekeeping? Ms. Rice seems to have a talent for taking middle-tier, functioning if unlovely countries, and turning them into violent basket case hellholes. Given that the US is currently descending into “middle-tier, functioning if unlovely” status, the Rice treatment may be the worst possible prescription.

    So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic.

    Indeed, the entire record of the affirmative-action Obama administration’s three affirmative-action ladies (Clinton, Rice, Powers) is 100% disaster. Unmoored from any real world goals, the Three Horsewomen of the Apocalypse lurched from catastrophe to catastrophe, learning nothing, forgetting nothing, indulging in what Brendan O’Neill aptly called “war as therapy“.

    On our more immediate question of Biden’s choice of VP—and therefore the unelected President of the United States as Biden’s senility becomes unhidable—in the choice between the clueless wonk Rice versus spiteful and vicious Harris, Rice may be the lesser of two evils. OTOH, Rice’s well-meaning demeanor may create an undesirable Obama Effect, where a pseudo-mild exterior cloaks and succors especially wicked policies. Harris has the dubious virtue of disguising her nastiness poorly.

    • Replies: @sayless
    @Almost Missouri

    If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Reg Cæsar

    , @John Derbyshire
    @Almost Missouri

    The Three Horsegirls of the Libyan Apocalypse https://tinyurl.com/y2a5ubqs

  27. If a Trump defeat is a foregone conclusion, then maybe Rice is the least harmful choice. Because of her past, a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions than would Harris. And because of her white goy husband and especially her right-wing son, maybe there’s a chance she doesn’t hate white people as much as most black Dem leaders (or most Dems in general).

    • Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    @Hapalong Cassidy

    You just reminded me of a funny exchange from "The Honeymooners." After a long harangue from Alice about the way men act so badly, Ralph retorts thusly: " Oh but you women get even! You get even! You MARRY US! "

    I don't see Rice as any friend of ours.

    , @Jane Plain
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions

     

    By whom?
    , @ben tillman
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    If a Trump defeat is a foregone conclusion, then maybe Rice is the least harmful choice. Because of her past, a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions than would Harris.
     
    What's with the passive voice? Who is going to scrutinize her decisions? Surely not the mass media, nor the public -- most of whom have no idea who she is.
  28. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Rice’s wild lies were really over the top. Who wants a congenital liar anywhere near them let alone in a position of authority? She was part of Obama’s stable of sadistic war loving women (at a distance of course). Harris is one of those resentful light skinned blacks who are doubly angry because they can never be white and join the white club. Biden really painted himself into a corner by saying he was going for a POC VP. With close to 47M blacks in the US it’s remarkable how one can count on one’s fingers the number who have any capability whatsoever for such a job and who don’t beat their chest 24/7 about being black.

    • Replies: @LMD
    @anonymous

    "...it’s remarkable how one can count on one’s fingers the number who have any capability whatsoever for such a job..."

    As opposed to the white men who have done such a great job recently? Bush---Great Recession, Iraq
    Trump---annual trillion dollar deficits, horrible pandemic response

  29. Kamala Harris really didn’t become black until she went to Howard, an HBCU. The best I can tell, her father left home when she was two. Her parents were then separated by their careers as post-doctoral fellows (her dad had a series of stints in the mid-West while the mother was in San Francisco) until she was six, at which point they divorced. Then, she was raised in Montreal by her Indian brahmin mother and grandmother, until she finished high school.

    Kamala Harris’ sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly.

    Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign’s point of view.

    • Replies: @Kent Nationalist
    @PiltdownMan

    A black man abandoning his child? Are you sure that really happened, it seems pretty implausible to me?

    , @Jesse
    @PiltdownMan

    That picture explains a lot. Harris is White compared to Blacks, Indian compared to Whites, and visibly more SSA than the Indians. While she seems to get on better, personally, with rich, disproportionately White PMC types, she might've tried to do an Obama and find a racial community. And work to her advantage, of course.

    It's fascinating that she appeared to get no traction with Blacks, especially the women. What happened there?

    Replies: @Bucky

    , @Buffalo Joe
    @PiltdownMan

    Pilt, "...she may be a Senator." Kirsten Gillibrand is a Senator, as is Barbara Boxer,Diane Feinstein and a dozen or so more lightweights. Sad.

    , @Lurker
    @PiltdownMan

    Also, Maya appears to be the pretty one of the two.

  30. Very clever description of “Heels Up” Harris. Interesting that both of these Jamaican ladies are married to white men. So they must be smarter than they look.

    Rice clearly has done things right in her personal life (plus BA from Stanford and doctorate from Oxford not shabby), but I cannot forget her making a complete fool of herself during the Bengazi scandal. Lied, and when caught in the lie, lied again. Too funny that her son is an up-and-coming Republican leader and Trump supporter. Smart young man. I read where he was assaulted on campus for supporting Brett Kavanaugh, so he has guts.

  31. “In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.”

    I see what you did there, Steve!

  32. Anonymous[314] • Disclaimer says:

    Sour faced prune of the month.

  33. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren

    It wasn’t intended as Freudian slip.

  34. Bernie Sanders and maybe even Liz Warren, must be fuming. The dems proclaim that the VP must be a woman of color, thereby being the first Affirmative Action vice president. Bernie was running a good race, I liked him in the debates, and suddenly the black women voters of South Carolina annoint Joe the candidate. Strange in my opinion. America deserves better than this.

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
    @Buffalo Joe

    I sympathize with your comment.


    Bernie was running a good race, I liked him in the debates, and suddenly the black women voters of South Carolina annoint Joe the candidate. Strange in my opinion.

     

    Unfortunately, it isn’t so strange. Bernie ran a campaign centered around left-populist policy themes. Creepy Joe was a good cracka who played second fiddle to Obama, and consequently his life-long career representing the true residents of DE, Master Card and Visa, was happily ignored. I have been to Wilmington a time or two and I have always had a feeling of sadness being in that city. That city epitomizes the nature of DNC-democrat rule: A corporate class and its servants presiding over a permanent black underclass. It’s almost like the old KKK democrats traded in their hoods for suits and carried on as usual in the new urban plantations.

    The sad fact is that much of the American electorate, across various identities, would rather vote for an empty suit who panders to their narcissism than for a candidate who talks policy to them. The latter kind actually turns a lot of them off as they feel they are being talked down to. The only part of your post I really tend to disagree with, though, is the last sentence:


    America deserves better than this.
     
    Does it really?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

  35. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren

    Whoa, crazy!

  36. @Almost Missouri
    @nebulafox

    Agree.



    Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, criticizing his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as “frankly, delusional”.
     

     
    If Gaddafi was "delusional", how does one characterize the pro-Mugabe author of The Commonwealth initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980 Implications for international peacekeeping? Ms. Rice seems to have a talent for taking middle-tier, functioning if unlovely countries, and turning them into violent basket case hellholes. Given that the US is currently descending into "middle-tier, functioning if unlovely" status, the Rice treatment may be the worst possible prescription.

    So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic.
     
    Indeed, the entire record of the affirmative-action Obama administration's three affirmative-action ladies (Clinton, Rice, Powers) is 100% disaster. Unmoored from any real world goals, the Three Horsewomen of the Apocalypse lurched from catastrophe to catastrophe, learning nothing, forgetting nothing, indulging in what Brendan O'Neill aptly called "war as therapy".

    On our more immediate question of Biden's choice of VP—and therefore the unelected President of the United States as Biden's senility becomes unhidable—in the choice between the clueless wonk Rice versus spiteful and vicious Harris, Rice may be the lesser of two evils. OTOH, Rice's well-meaning demeanor may create an undesirable Obama Effect, where a pseudo-mild exterior cloaks and succors especially wicked policies. Harris has the dubious virtue of disguising her nastiness poorly.

    Replies: @sayless, @John Derbyshire

    If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @sayless

    >>If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.<<

    You say this for effect. Well said.

    But I have yet to read/hear of anyone regardless of politics who actually did emigrate from the US after an election.

    Alec Baldwin and dozens of other crazed Hillaryites used to say that in 2015, yet they are all still here. Sadly. Some may still be repeating that lie.

    So this is, regardless of intent, the rhetorical equivalent of shooting off blanks.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @sayless


    If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.
     
    Don't worry. Considering Biden's condition, she wouldn't be Vice President for very long!
  37. Washington state has two senators* Washington D.C. which Susan Rice wanted to be a senator for has zero. She is the perfect running mate for Joe.

    * If we steal an s from somewhere and the name of Ottawa’s team Washington could have the Washington tReasons in the NfL. Spellchecks suggestion makes them appealing to Earth s Vulcan community.

  38. I still think there’s a chance Biden won’t pick a woman (black or white) at all. He’ll pick former Gov. Deval Patrick (MA).

    Blacks will only care that Patrick is black. White female Dems will grumble, but they have nowhere else to go – they are guided only by their hatred for Trump. Any white woman that grumbles too loudly will be called a “Karen”. And the media will of course call it a political masterstroke; no difficult questions, such as “Could you really find no qualified black female?”

    The answer to that question is obvious.

    • Agree: Inquiring Mind
    • Disagree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • Thanks: Muggles
  39. Susan Rice sells Netflix shares ahead of Biden’s VP announcement

    Headlines everywhere this morning.
    I think this one’s over.

  40. Republicans could embarrass the Democrats by highlighting the Obama/Clinton/Rice disaster in Libya where 40,000 black lives were killed as Africa’s most prosperous state was destroyed. The “no fly zone” was used as cover for a massive bombing campaign since the imported jihadists mercenaries had failed to topple Libya’s popular government. This is why Russia later vetoed a “no fly zone” over Syria, but it’s bombed anyway.

    • Agree: Neoconned
  41. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren

    Today Mayor Brown shows he’s not done carefully, sweetly, but firmly shaping the korse of Kamala’s kareer:

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/Willie-Brown-Kamala-Harris-should-say-no-to-vice-15468145.php

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    Brown Willie's advice to Kamala is: skip the VP slot and go for the Attorney General's office, so you can replace every US Attorney in the country with your own (partisan ideologue) choice, a power that she, unlike the Republicans, will certainly use.

    Maybe VP Harris wouldn't be so bad ... but then there's that heartbeat away thing.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Sean

  42. I read that headline and thought this was going to be about the two of them oiled in bikinis going at it in a steel cage death match.

    I am VERY disappointed.

    • Agree: Kyle
    • Replies: @throtler
    @theMann

    Not me. Those two skanks are disgusting.

  43. @PiltdownMan
    Kamala Harris really didn't become black until she went to Howard, an HBCU. The best I can tell, her father left home when she was two. Her parents were then separated by their careers as post-doctoral fellows (her dad had a series of stints in the mid-West while the mother was in San Francisco) until she was six, at which point they divorced. Then, she was raised in Montreal by her Indian brahmin mother and grandmother, until she finished high school.

    https://i.imgur.com/blEcDrb.jpg


    Kamala Harris' sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly.

    Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign's point of view.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jesse, @Buffalo Joe, @Lurker

    A black man abandoning his child? Are you sure that really happened, it seems pretty implausible to me?

    • LOL: Lurker
  44. Uncle Joe’s ‘state’ is a feature not a bug for TDS. Allows am affirmitard action prez – bypass voters for darky prrz, like (((laws))) bypass wishes of meritocrats in employing darkies in jobs their IQ is Too Low for.

  45. Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.

    A bit of the old who, whom–know wha’ I mean?

    • Replies: @Patrick Boyle
    @slumber_j

    At the time Treasure Island (the US Navy's WWII artificial island in SF Bay) was said to have been run by Willie Brown's girl friend. I never read her name or saw her picture. I think it must have been Harris but I'm not sure. Whoever she was, she took over the main residence and governed her own little island.

    Replies: @Larry, San Francisco

  46. No doubt it has been extensively commented upon, but a Biden/Rice ticket is about establishment Dem as was possible in the current cycle. I wonder if this is a result of the party’s strategists calculating that the current sturm und drang doesn’t really mean more young voters at the polls but a reassuring moderate-appearing ticket will eat into the suburban vote enough to win the EC.

  47. Strange in my opinion. America deserves better than this.

    America has “deserved” better presidents than every one we’ve had since Eisenhower.

    And if you look back with a critical eye it’s overall not a very impressive list period.

    “Deserved” simply has very little to do with it. If we want better we have to get to work and demand better.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe, Alfa158
    • Replies: @Jane Plain
    @AnotherDad

    100%.

    Every president since Ike has been a disaster.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Philip Owen

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    America has “deserved” better presidents than every one we’ve had since Eisenhower.
     
    The presidents before Eisenhower were even more destructive. Except, as always, the "do-nothings". I'll take a string of Fords or Coolidges over a "great" one any decade. There must be some high minimum amount of damage done, a "deductable" so to speak, to meet before historians label a president great.

    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Flip, @Rob McX

    , @throtler
    @AnotherDad

    I don't think much of Eisenhower and his forced integration either.

  48. Harris is half Tamil and her Stanford economics professor father is from the Malcolm Gladwellish mulatto middle-class of Jamaica. (Harris is also half-Jamaican.)

    I think you meant to write “Rice is also half-Jamaican.

  49. I’ve seen Malcolm Gladwell on the street.

    He is mucho tiny.

    • Replies: @Herzog
    @Jane Plain

    You mean, like a duck?

  50. @AnotherDad

    Strange in my opinion. America deserves better than this.
     
    America has "deserved" better presidents than every one we've had since Eisenhower.

    And if you look back with a critical eye it's overall not a very impressive list period.

    "Deserved" simply has very little to do with it. If we want better we have to get to work and demand better.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Reg Cæsar, @throtler

    100%.

    Every president since Ike has been a disaster.

    • Replies: @Kronos
    @Jane Plain

    A disaster in their own unique ways.

    , @Philip Owen
    @Jane Plain

    Nixon was good while he lasted.

  51. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren

    How does one know all of these positions were under Willie Brown?

  52. In turn, the murder of Gadaphee, who had made a deal with Italy’s Berlusconi to reduce sub-Saharan migration thru the Mediterranean, led to to the ensuing migrant crisis.

    In the actual historical timeline, Ga-daffi duck was helping block blacks from hitting the beach.

    But still “led” strikes me as a bit strong. No nation should depend on another nation to secure its borders. Another nation may be helping, but if it fails a nation should always be capable of doing the job itself.

    The Italian navy alone could wrap up the Mediterranean part of this “migrant crisis” trivially.

    The problem is that Italian, European politicians lack the desire and will to stop this flood of blacks … because they’ve been pickled in American minoritarianism for 50+–no a core component of globo-homo.

    • Agree: RadicalCenter
  53. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren

    How do you know the Kamala didn’t satisfy her cowgirl urges with Willie from time to time?

  54. Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son

    • Thanks: Mr McKenna
    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @adreadline

    I was just about to say---that kid looks like he's in a Mr. Bean look-alike contest.

    , @RadicalCenter
    @adreadline

    Nicely done. Even more so, especially with the smile, Harris’s kid looks like Canadian actor Fred Ewanuick, who starred in Corner Gas for six seasons from 2004-2009:

    https://img.sharetv.com/shows/characters/thumbnails/corner_gas_the_movie_ca.hank_yarbo.jpg

    https://66.media.tumblr.com/a125986cfed626fcd56c9a205d233501/tumblr_pbwz520ZMH1u5yhmto5_500.jpg

  55. Rice reportedly stated that Gaddafi loyalists engaged in atrocities, including terrorizing the population with sexual violence

    Coming from a Clinton Administration functionary, this is quite rich.

    So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic.

    Or deeply cynical. I know what the Frenchman said, but sometimes it is malice, not incompetence.

    Harris is half Tamil and her Stanford economics professor father is from the Malcolm Gladwellish mulatto middle-class of Jamaica. (Harris is also half-Jamaican.)

    What does the “Tamil Hammer” Mrs Emhoff have in common with Cleopatra, Charlemagne, Elizabeth I, Elizabeth II, Hirohito, Alexander the Great, John F Kennedy, and Donald Trump, and Berry Gordy?

    As of yesterday, Matt Baker of Useful Charts has done a video of her family tree. Unfortunately, and most unlike his others, this one is larded with “social construct” boilerplate throughout the middle section. But the first three and last two minutes are factual accounts of her ancestry.

    Useful Charts is particularly useful for those who wonder who’d be on the throne today had Washington been crowned rather than elected, or had the French, Russian, and Jacobean lines continued. There are more than one contender for each of these.

    • Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Washington was childless, but had John Adams somehow been able to get a hold of the throne, well, he’s had successful direct descendants that can be traced to our current time.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  56. @Ed
    Susan Rice’s father is Emmett Rice, he’s been dead for almost 10 years. He was an economist and was on the Fed Reserve Board.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_J._Rice

    Susan Rice’s mother is Lois Rice born in Portland Maine to Jamaican parents. She is considered one of the first black women to serve on corporate boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Rice

    Replies: @syonredux, @Clyde

    Susan Rice’s mother is Lois Rice born in Portland Maine to Jamaican parents. She is considered one of the first black women to serve on corporate boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Rice

    Make that the first Black-ish woman…..

  57. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    The myth lives on. Jimmy Carter was widely hailed at the time as a nuclear engineer. That’s preposterous. Carter had been an officer in a conventional submarine. He had had no background in the new nuclear subs whatsoever but he wanted to fill out his resume to prepare for his next possible promotion. So he took a night course in something like a general survey course for business men who wanted to learn some nuclear energy terms. So his one survey night class at a junior college got inflated by his campaign staff to “Nuclear Engineer”.

    • Replies: @JRB
    @Patrick Boyle

    I didn't know this, but I believe it. A pity, I always thought that Carter was probably the most honest president during my lifetime.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , @Hibernian
    @Patrick Boyle

    You're exaggerating slightly. He became a nuclear submarine officer and the course he took was at Rennselaer Poytechnic Institute.

    Replies: @Foreign Expert

    , @Anonymous
    @Patrick Boyle

    Carter knew Three Mile Island was a nothingburger but refused to say so publicly in order not to anger the anti-nuke activists in his party.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  58. White liberal women have got to be figuring out that they come dead last in the Democrat party

    Why can’t Biden pick a white woman?

    I think that’s what he should do.

    The blacks got their freebies, it’s the liberal white women who are losing their minds.

    Make THEM happy

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Thoughts


    Why can’t Biden pick a white woman?
     
    Nurse Ratched Gretchen Whitmer recently visited Biden at his rest home house, reportedly to discuss her being the VP candidate

    https://apnews.com/65025dc16aa18353cf868658d9b2314a

    None of the black women candidates help him win a swing-state. I guess the thinking is that Ilsa She Wolf of the SS Whitmer might help the ticket win Michigan. That's assuming she hasn't pissed off enough white people in the state yet by decreeing that they can't use their motor-boats and declaring racism a public-heath emergency.
  59. Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son, the president of the Stanford Young Republicans, is pale (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).

    In terms of facial morphology, I think that her daughter is slightly more SSA looking than the son.

    • Replies: @anon
    @syonredux

    Susan Rice's son reminds me of someone or other. I'll have to think for a minute, though.

    https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/feature-12-1.jpg

    , @Father Coughlin
    @syonredux

    Edward Dutton has some theories about mixed-race children. They are generally not good-looking (although a few black and white models have stood out for the curiosity factor and have caused the PC meme that the mix is actually beautiful).

    See Robert Deniro's children. Even last year's Super Bowl-winning quarterback, a true alpha, looks "off" in the face to me.

    , @AnotherDad
    @syonredux

    Not attractive kids.

    Interesting, cause i don't think Susan Rice is an unattractive woman--high side of average--ok facial symmetry, nothing too weird going on. She's and her husband just didn't mix well--at least in terms of looks. (The son seems pretty cool in terms of figuring stuff out for himself. Betting would be daughter is a tedious SJW.)

    Replies: @LMD

    , @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    @syonredux

    They are all quite disfortunate looking.

  60. @Almost Missouri
    @nebulafox

    Agree.



    Rice offered some of the toughest rhetoric toward Gaddafi, criticizing his denials of atrocities against his own citizens as “frankly, delusional”.
     

     
    If Gaddafi was "delusional", how does one characterize the pro-Mugabe author of The Commonwealth initiative in Zimbabwe, 1979-1980 Implications for international peacekeeping? Ms. Rice seems to have a talent for taking middle-tier, functioning if unlovely countries, and turning them into violent basket case hellholes. Given that the US is currently descending into "middle-tier, functioning if unlovely" status, the Rice treatment may be the worst possible prescription.

    So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic.
     
    Indeed, the entire record of the affirmative-action Obama administration's three affirmative-action ladies (Clinton, Rice, Powers) is 100% disaster. Unmoored from any real world goals, the Three Horsewomen of the Apocalypse lurched from catastrophe to catastrophe, learning nothing, forgetting nothing, indulging in what Brendan O'Neill aptly called "war as therapy".

    On our more immediate question of Biden's choice of VP—and therefore the unelected President of the United States as Biden's senility becomes unhidable—in the choice between the clueless wonk Rice versus spiteful and vicious Harris, Rice may be the lesser of two evils. OTOH, Rice's well-meaning demeanor may create an undesirable Obama Effect, where a pseudo-mild exterior cloaks and succors especially wicked policies. Harris has the dubious virtue of disguising her nastiness poorly.

    Replies: @sayless, @John Derbyshire

    The Three Horsegirls of the Libyan Apocalypse https://tinyurl.com/y2a5ubqs

    • Thanks: Almost Missouri
  61. @slumber_j

    Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.
     
    A bit of the old who, whom--know wha' I mean?

    Replies: @Patrick Boyle

    At the time Treasure Island (the US Navy’s WWII artificial island in SF Bay) was said to have been run by Willie Brown’s girl friend. I never read her name or saw her picture. I think it must have been Harris but I’m not sure. Whoever she was, she took over the main residence and governed her own little island.

    • Replies: @Larry, San Francisco
    @Patrick Boyle

    Willy Brown has had a lot of girlfriends.

  62. There still hasnt been a 100% Black male president or Veep. Obama was half-black and raised by a white extended family. The Freedom Train is now skipping over the black male and going for the (part) black female.

  63. Castro worship vs. Bibi worship – which is worse?

    • Replies: @Richard S
    @Mario Partisan

    In terms of masculine charisma it’d be hard to choose between a victorious guerrilla revolutionary who seized and held power for decades; and a former special forces commando who permanently changed his country’s political scene and uses every trick in the book to strengthen the ethnic basis of his Folkstate.

    Politics aside, they’re both titans.

  64. On the Wall St. Journal “Editorial Report” tv show last weekend, the reporters discussed Rice’s knowingly and blatantly lying about Benghazi, and how she now refuses to answer questions about it. They then said that Rice will not get away with that refusal if she is the VP candidate. As is often the case, they omitted the “because….” One would expect them to follow up by saying something like “we consulted with some political scientists who specialize in these things, and they said that forthcomingness increases greatly once a politician becomes the actual candidate in a national election.” So the question remains in my mind..will she get away with evading explanations?

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
    @SafeNow

    All Dems get away with whatever the Dems want them to get away with.

    If she doesn't "get away with it", it will be because the Dems decided she had to go down. If the Dems decide she has to go down, it will also not matter whether or not she is actually guilty of any wrongdoing (but almost all Dems are, so that is not usually a problem.) The DNC is essentially an organized crime ring.

    , @Stan
    @SafeNow

    Wall Street Journal is in no moral position to question Susan Rice on Libya and Benghazi. The neocons at WSJ were cheerleaders of the calamitous NATO attack on Libya.

  65. @Reg Cæsar

    Rice reportedly stated that Gaddafi loyalists engaged in atrocities, including terrorizing the population with sexual violence
     
    Coming from a Clinton Administration functionary, this is quite rich.

    So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic.
     
    Or deeply cynical. I know what the Frenchman said, but sometimes it is malice, not incompetence.

    Harris is half Tamil and her Stanford economics professor father is from the Malcolm Gladwellish mulatto middle-class of Jamaica. (Harris is also half-Jamaican.)

     

    What does the "Tamil Hammer" Mrs Emhoff have in common with Cleopatra, Charlemagne, Elizabeth I, Elizabeth II, Hirohito, Alexander the Great, John F Kennedy, and Donald Trump, and Berry Gordy?

    As of yesterday, Matt Baker of Useful Charts has done a video of her family tree. Unfortunately, and most unlike his others, this one is larded with "social construct" boilerplate throughout the middle section. But the first three and last two minutes are factual accounts of her ancestry.

    Useful Charts is particularly useful for those who wonder who'd be on the throne today had Washington been crowned rather than elected, or had the French, Russian, and Jacobean lines continued. There are more than one contender for each of these.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8qF-IvSqxdE

    Replies: @Hapalong Cassidy

    Washington was childless, but had John Adams somehow been able to get a hold of the throne, well, he’s had successful direct descendants that can be traced to our current time.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    Washington was childless
     
    He had stepchildren, and siblings and cousins with descendants. Any monarchist or student of monarchy-- such as the Nova Scotia native who made that video-- could easily find a ways to keep the throne Washingtonian.

    Also, Adams had respect for the law. Despite his strong disagreements with the Crown, he defended its interests in the Boston Massacre and the Tea Party. The rebels may have been right, but they had stepped over the line with their actions.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

  66. So both are of Jamaican high status mixed race heritage?

    BTW, it appears that both, at times, appear to be quite fair skinned and Ms. Rice occasionally may darken her skin intentionally for intersectionality power points.

    In other words, in a truly “white” society, where lighter skin gained privileges, both would endeavor to pass for white.

    • Agree: Lurker
  67. Serious question:

    In modern times, has the American Black refusal to separate Black and Mullato/a into separate groups (as logic would dictate) been good or bad overall for Blacks and the country as a whole?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Jesse

    Jesse, can't answer for the country, but because it is not a zero sum game mullatos get all the benefits accorded to blacks, so it is good for blacks. Always lots of benefits for anyone who identifies as black.

  68. @syonredux

    Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son, the president of the Stanford Young Republicans, is pale (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).
     
    In terms of facial morphology, I think that her daughter is slightly more SSA looking than the son.

    https://fox40jackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/103736/susan-rice-on-her-trump-supporting-son-i-love-him-dearly.jpg


    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/14/19440860-7550115-image-m-20_1570541079591.jpg

    Replies: @anon, @Father Coughlin, @AnotherDad, @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Susan Rice’s son reminds me of someone or other. I’ll have to think for a minute, though.

    • LOL: SafeNow
  69. This is all good fun. Democrat VP nominees have all been fairly solid managerial types the last couple decades. The one time they need that type as a backup to a somnambulant 78-year old, they reach deep into the affirmative action grab bag and come up with … a pound of air.

  70. Do you really believe voters will care about Rice’s poor foreign policy decisions? Most Americans have probably never heard of Libya.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Magic Dirt Resident


    Do you really believe voters will care about Rice’s poor foreign policy decisions? Most Americans have probably never heard of Libya.
     
    Agreed. And in any case they couldn't care less how many non-Americans get butchered as a result of US foreign policy. They like the idea of invading/bombing/trashing other people's countries. It gives them a nice warm feeling of superiority.
  71. @PiltdownMan
    Kamala Harris really didn't become black until she went to Howard, an HBCU. The best I can tell, her father left home when she was two. Her parents were then separated by their careers as post-doctoral fellows (her dad had a series of stints in the mid-West while the mother was in San Francisco) until she was six, at which point they divorced. Then, she was raised in Montreal by her Indian brahmin mother and grandmother, until she finished high school.

    https://i.imgur.com/blEcDrb.jpg


    Kamala Harris' sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly.

    Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign's point of view.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jesse, @Buffalo Joe, @Lurker

    That picture explains a lot. Harris is White compared to Blacks, Indian compared to Whites, and visibly more SSA than the Indians. While she seems to get on better, personally, with rich, disproportionately White PMC types, she might’ve tried to do an Obama and find a racial community. And work to her advantage, of course.

    It’s fascinating that she appeared to get no traction with Blacks, especially the women. What happened there?

    • Replies: @Bucky
    @Jesse

    She has that glibness to her that blacks can see is often associated with the entitled Karens calling the cops on them for having a cookout.

    She is childless which actually is quite problematic. She would be the first president since the late 1800's who is childless.

    Not having biological children can make a person more extreme and ideological, and not possess the experience of compromise, coaxing, that comes with raising a child.

    She is married to a white Jewish man.

    Harris isn't really popular amongst the people. She is popular amongst DC professional women. She is an identity politics choice for them, and not the average black American.

  72. @SafeNow
    On the Wall St. Journal “Editorial Report” tv show last weekend, the reporters discussed Rice’s knowingly and blatantly lying about Benghazi, and how she now refuses to answer questions about it. They then said that Rice will not get away with that refusal if she is the VP candidate. As is often the case, they omitted the “because....” One would expect them to follow up by saying something like “we consulted with some political scientists who specialize in these things, and they said that forthcomingness increases greatly once a politician becomes the actual candidate in a national election.” So the question remains in my mind..will she get away with evading explanations?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Stan

    All Dems get away with whatever the Dems want them to get away with.

    If she doesn’t “get away with it”, it will be because the Dems decided she had to go down. If the Dems decide she has to go down, it will also not matter whether or not she is actually guilty of any wrongdoing (but almost all Dems are, so that is not usually a problem.) The DNC is essentially an organized crime ring.

  73. @Jane Plain
    @AnotherDad

    100%.

    Every president since Ike has been a disaster.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Philip Owen

    A disaster in their own unique ways.

  74. @Patrick Boyle
    @nebulafox

    The myth lives on. Jimmy Carter was widely hailed at the time as a nuclear engineer. That's preposterous. Carter had been an officer in a conventional submarine. He had had no background in the new nuclear subs whatsoever but he wanted to fill out his resume to prepare for his next possible promotion. So he took a night course in something like a general survey course for business men who wanted to learn some nuclear energy terms. So his one survey night class at a junior college got inflated by his campaign staff to "Nuclear Engineer".

    Replies: @JRB, @Hibernian, @Anonymous

    I didn’t know this, but I believe it. A pity, I always thought that Carter was probably the most honest president during my lifetime.

    • Agree: Buffalo Joe
    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @JRB


    I always thought that Carter was probably the most honest president during my lifetime.
     
    For what its worth, Robert Novak in "Prince of Darkness" wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington. Not in a corruption sense, but in a reflexive "why tell the truth when you can lie" sense.

    He gave a few examples in his book, then expanded on them in post-publishing interviews:

    John Hawkins: Do you think that Carter’s frequent lying and the fact that he seemed to get away with it, helped influence Bill Clinton to lie so often when he was President?

    Robert Novak: Well, I think Bill Clinton was a minor league liar compared to Jimmy Carter. Carter would just lie for the sake of lying. He was absolutely incredible.

    I put a lot of the cases in the book — I couldn’t put all of them in — but my two favorite cases are in the book. I had written a column detailing nine separate lies by Carter and he told another reporter that I had apologized to him for it. That was just an absolute lie.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Jim Don Bob

  75. Neither of the two would add any votes. BTW is Rice in any potential jeopardy from the long-awaited Durham Report?

  76. The Oligarchy does not need the President to make decisions. In an odd parody of Douglas Adams’s “Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy”, where an ignorant ruler made real decisions without realizing it, we have a more-or-less aware President who simply ratifies decisions made by others.

    Judged by that standard, Susan Rice is an almost perfect candidate. I never believed that Susan Rice made the decisions leading to the Libyan civil war. She merely took responsibility for decisions made elsewhere. In other words, she did her job.

    Susan Rice is a fairly intelligent, fairly black (edit: Black) woman who understands her role and who can be expected to do as she is told. By all appearances her personal life is above reproach, and she was an associate of the Beatified Barack Obama.

    Yes, it might be better if her husband were black. (Editorial query: should this “black” be capitalized since it is a hypothetical description of a male who is actually white?) This, too, however, is not without advantages. A black (sorry: Black) man might believe he has the right to express his own opinions. A white male is under no such illusion.

    Her Trump-supporting son could be an embarrassment, if he believes that he has inherited enough Black privilege, but surely he is young enough to control. Just surround him with Secret Service guards 24 & 7 and keep him away from all electronic devices. For that matter, although he is a Republican, in all likelihood, he is actually your typical Republi-Cuck. In that case, he might represent an attempt by his family to play both sides of the political equation – meaning that he, his father and his mother are all smart, pliable Machiavellians. Just the sort of people the Oligarchy can work with, in other words.

    I will go out on a limb here, and predict that Susan Rice will get the nod for V.P. Kamala Harris seems like a shoo-in for Attorney General, though, assuming the Oligarchy can get their act together and curb stomp Donald Trump and the Deplorables this November.

  77. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    And don’t forget, the Libyan fiasco also broke our word to Russia. At that time Russia was playing nice and had agreed to support an international no-fly zone on the condition that it was only to protect refugees. We double-crossed them by bombing Ghadaffi’s forces and disintegrating the whole country.

    This was humiliating to Russia on many levels, and they have never forgotten it.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
    @Hypnotoad666

    Good-Russia has spend a millennia not standing by its agreements. America firsters don’t care about Putin getting scammed in a diplomatic 3 card monte game.

  78. @Lot
    @Dan Hayes

    Today Mayor Brown shows he’s not done carefully, sweetly, but firmly shaping the korse of Kamala’s kareer:

    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/williesworld/article/Willie-Brown-Kamala-Harris-should-say-no-to-vice-15468145.php

    Replies: @Almost Missouri

    Brown Willie’s advice to Kamala is: skip the VP slot and go for the Attorney General’s office, so you can replace every US Attorney in the country with your own (partisan ideologue) choice, a power that she, unlike the Republicans, will certainly use.

    Maybe VP Harris wouldn’t be so bad … but then there’s that heartbeat away thing.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @Almost Missouri

    So what Soros has done on the non-Federal level, Harris will do on the Federal level. A truly frightening outcome!
    BTW, Soros's takeover of state and city AG's has yielded big dividends in providing cover for the current Antifa/BLM uprisings.

    , @Sean
    @Almost Missouri

    It is now so inevitable that it will be Harris that the Dems are trying to create a bit of mystery, but there is no one else that Biden can pick really. Biden isn't going to die, and he has not even officially said he will not try for a second term. But:-


    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lot-of-issues-former-obama-doctor-says-biden-is-not-a-healthy-guy

    “I had no idea Biden had such a history. My goodness gracious, he’s got a lot of history,” Scheiner said

    Biden had two brain aneurysms in 1988, the first of which almost killed him.
     

    One of the aneurysms ruptured which it is unusual to recover from completely. A third of survivors are left with major neurologic deficits that often show up while trying to find the right words. I would say it is quite likely he will cease to be president at 80 years old, because everyone is on the lookout for senility in him, and he is already so diminished by the damage he suffered in 1988, that 24 month of normal aging will leave him unable to even deliver simple speeches. Rice lacks political skills, allies, and experience and her white spouse will not win her supporters. So get used to saying it: President Harris.
  79. @Buffalo Joe
    Bernie Sanders and maybe even Liz Warren, must be fuming. The dems proclaim that the VP must be a woman of color, thereby being the first Affirmative Action vice president. Bernie was running a good race, I liked him in the debates, and suddenly the black women voters of South Carolina annoint Joe the candidate. Strange in my opinion. America deserves better than this.

    Replies: @Mario Partisan

    I sympathize with your comment.

    Bernie was running a good race, I liked him in the debates, and suddenly the black women voters of South Carolina annoint Joe the candidate. Strange in my opinion.

    Unfortunately, it isn’t so strange. Bernie ran a campaign centered around left-populist policy themes. Creepy Joe was a good cracka who played second fiddle to Obama, and consequently his life-long career representing the true residents of DE, Master Card and Visa, was happily ignored. I have been to Wilmington a time or two and I have always had a feeling of sadness being in that city. That city epitomizes the nature of DNC-democrat rule: A corporate class and its servants presiding over a permanent black underclass. It’s almost like the old KKK democrats traded in their hoods for suits and carried on as usual in the new urban plantations.

    The sad fact is that much of the American electorate, across various identities, would rather vote for an empty suit who panders to their narcissism than for a candidate who talks policy to them. The latter kind actually turns a lot of them off as they feel they are being talked down to. The only part of your post I really tend to disagree with, though, is the last sentence:

    America deserves better than this.

    Does it really?

    • Replies: @Buffalo Joe
    @Mario Partisan

    Mario, very nice, well thought out replay. People, like me, thought Bernie was as far left as a serious candidate could go, but who knew the dems would cave to bLM demands and the AntiFas and their violence? America could do better than this...is that better stated?

  80. @dearieme
    Her ... son, the president of the Stanford ...

    He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Buffalo Joe, @Sent from my iStevePhone

    He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?

    The only group more favored than blacks in elite college admissions are the children of high-ranking DC insiders. So with both boxes checked, fughettaboutit.

    • Agree: fish
  81. @John Foster
    All you need to know about Rice: She was the African desk at State when the Rwanda Genocide occurred. Except that she told Clinton not to say that because then the US might be obligated to do something about it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Only Wrathful, @Mr. Anon, @PSR

    All you need to know about Rice: She was the African desk at State when the Rwanda Genocide occurred. Except that she told Clinton not to say that because then the US might be obligated to do something about it.

    And we didn’t. Wow– she did something right!

    • Agree: Poco
  82. @Joe Magarac
    Not Michelle O?

    Replies: @The Anti-Gnostic

    Michelle is busy shopping, which is fine with me.

    The fact that Barack has to be dragged with a rope to have a single staged, professionally-produced “chat” with the geriatric Biden is one of the things I like about him. The Obamas to their credit don’t seem all that interested in DC politics any more.

  83. @Bucky
    Rice is preferable to Harris, though she is not really ideal.

    Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.

    Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.

    Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.

    Replies: @guest007, @Not Only Wrathful, @Muggles, @Bernard

    Everyone should go back and read the stories about the Harris campaign. Senator Harris hired family members, failed to control her staff, and did not know what she was doing. Before that Harris had never competed in a competitive race but was elected due to be selected by the establishment. Harris is ambitious but not driven enough to achieve her goals.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @guest007

    Harris is ambitious but not driven smart enough to achieve her goals.

    , @Fluesterwitz
    @guest007

    That appears to be a good thing in a bad politician, no?

  84. Harris is half Tamil and her Stanford economics professor father is from the Malcolm Gladwellish mulatto middle-class of Jamaica. (Harris is also half-Jamaican.)

    In DR3 fashion, some internet sleuths have done some digging about the Harris clan of Jamaica and learned that Harris’s High Yella Jamaican ancestors were plantation owners and slave owners. cf. 1957’s star-studded Island in the Sun featuring James Mason, Harry Belafonte, Joan Fontaine, and Dorothy Dandridge dealing with the subject of Jamaica’s racial caste system.

    It’s quaint to think this matters in year zero to disqualify a left winger from anything. It’s a useful cudgel against, say, Mitch McConnell to say that his Virginian/Kentuckian ancestors owned a few slaves, but it’s not going to hobble Harris at all.

  85. The prominence of Harris and Rice are further signs that the historical black American population is going through its own Hillbilly Elegy treatment. Looking at current black elites, a significantly disproportionate number of them have recent African, Caribbean, or biracial ancestry. How many Americans have an Afro/Indian ancestry similar to Harris’? A few hundred? A few dozen? People with backgrounds like George Floyd’s are useful to the elites to bleat on about racism, but they’re increasingly marginalized from the top ranks of power in favor of – and by – people with more exotic backgrounds.

    To their credit, unlike their white counterparts, legacy black Americans don’t seem to be going down without a fight.

    • Replies: @Charlotte
    @Darwin's Sh-tlist

    The diversity push in film, TV, the music biz, academia, journalism, politics, you name it, favors very light-skinned blacks over typical American blacks to an amazing degree. It’s as if every white person in public life were a blue-eyed blonde. And yeah, there’s probably a good reason for that. But I wonder whether the average American black resents it, or just feels proud that they have representation?

  86. @dearieme
    @nebulafox

    Herbert Hoover was ... probably the most accomplished [man] who ever inhabited the White House

    Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn't the web wonderful?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps

    Herbert Hoover was … probably the most accomplished [man] who ever inhabited the White House

    Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn’t the web wonderful?

    Me too. Garfield, though, deserves points for having devised an original proof for the Pythagorean Theorem.

    I also never knew until yesterday that Hoover’s VP, Charles Curtis, was a half-breed Kansan. So Faith Spotted Eagle was only the second “Native American” to receive an electoral vote. (And the fourth woman. Unless the states reported in reverse order in 2017; in that case, she’d be the third.)

    Curtis was also the last VP or POTUS to be born in a territory. Obama missed by three years.

    Charles Curtis: America’s Indian Vice President

    Charles Curtis – Kansapedia – Kansas Historical Society

    Mathematical Treasure: James A. Garfield’s Proof of the Pythagorean Theorem

    1928, 1932, 1936, 1976, 1996– any other years with a Kansan on a major ticket?

    Oh, yeah… I always forget which Abilene Ike was from!

  87. They seem to never be able to find someone who’s 100 % Black and whose ancestors were actually American slaves.

  88. I have faith in Joe Biden to pick the absolutely worst possible candidate. Even Stacey “Get Whitey” Abrams would be better than Rice.

    So it will be Rice. Rice is an ACADEMIC. Like Pol Pot. Abimael Guzman of Shining Path. She’s highly likely to efficiently preside over genocide just to make sure her abstract principles of how society should act and who should comprise it becomes reality.

    Harris is a corrupt whore, and like all corrupt whores filled with a terrible vengeance Madame Mao style, and would quickly ramp up the current Cultural Revolution to get rid of the four olds or whatever. It can always get worse however and Rice would certainly tell Pol Pot and the Interamhamwe “hold my beer.”

    • Agree: Inquiring Mind
  89. This was directed toward a comment by Hynotoad666. Don’t know why it didn’t take…

    That, among other incidents, convinced the Russians that the United States was “not agreement-capable”, in other words complete liars, as the shallow assholes in charge decide to go back on agreements so often that it is reasonable to suppose that they never intended to honor them in the first place. This has lead to them believing that the US, as well as their compradors in their sphere, are contemptible. They are correct in this perception. Bad, bad mistake.

    But then, these are the same US “elites” who still believe that the actual size of the Russian economy is equivalent to that of one mid-sized US state. Well, no, fuckwits, this is a nation that has worked assiduously to, in as many ways possible, attain autarchy in all credible measures of national power, especially in the realm of the military. Geez, where did all of those hypersonic cruise missiles come from? And howzabout the missile and electronic countermeasures knowhow that took out attacks on their bases in Syria? And that “moribund” shipbuilding industry that keeps laying down new keels, and upgrading existing, still viable warships to state of the art? Oh, and they are actually rather glad about all of those “crippling” sanctions that provided them with all the reason they needed to become more independent in areas such as agriculture and technology. Stupidity on a level with the US having gifted the Red Chinese with advanced technologies, and placed our national well-being at their mercy while surrendering industry after industry to them, compromising our self-dependence, and eliminating employment for millions – millions – of US workers through corporate labor arbitrage games.

    This is a nation with whom we should be on proper, respectful terms. But no, some Jews bitter about something that may have happened more than 100 years ago in the long dead Russian Empire to their great great grandparents, and pissed that they got tossed out on their asses while trying to take over Russia and gain total control of their natural resources at the end of the Cold War, are doing all that they can to make this impossible. Spiteful wreckers.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @JerseyJeffersonian

    And the fooling of Medvedev led to the return of “Lord Sauron” who has just shuffled Medvedev out the door.

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @JerseyJeffersonian


    Well, no, fuckwits, this is a nation that has worked assiduously to, in as many ways possible, attain autarchy in all credible measures of national power, especially in the realm of the military.
     
    This is because the goofs in DC miss the key point that the Russian defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems focused on defeating and killing the enemy.

    The US defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems that enrich their executives, DC insiders, and flag-level officers while creating a spider-web of job sites across the US that are useful cudgels against any legislators that speak out about cutting wasteful spending on MIC pork programs.

    As a result, Russia has a 10 year lead on the US in hypersonics. At the rate the US is going they will be lucky to field a vestigial hypersonic capability in 2024 or 2025. The Lockheed Martin HCSW, which was planned to be one of the US' major hypersonic programs, was outright canceled several months ago.

    Russia also has the world's premier integrated air defense system, which has proven highly effective against the now dated Tomahawk cruise missile.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

  90. @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    Brown Willie's advice to Kamala is: skip the VP slot and go for the Attorney General's office, so you can replace every US Attorney in the country with your own (partisan ideologue) choice, a power that she, unlike the Republicans, will certainly use.

    Maybe VP Harris wouldn't be so bad ... but then there's that heartbeat away thing.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Sean

    So what Soros has done on the non-Federal level, Harris will do on the Federal level. A truly frightening outcome!
    BTW, Soros’s takeover of state and city AG’s has yielded big dividends in providing cover for the current Antifa/BLM uprisings.

  91. @Hapalong Cassidy
    @Reg Cæsar

    Washington was childless, but had John Adams somehow been able to get a hold of the throne, well, he’s had successful direct descendants that can be traced to our current time.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Washington was childless

    He had stepchildren, and siblings and cousins with descendants. Any monarchist or student of monarchy– such as the Nova Scotia native who made that video– could easily find a ways to keep the throne Washingtonian.

    Also, Adams had respect for the law. Despite his strong disagreements with the Crown, he defended its interests in the Boston Massacre and the Tea Party. The rebels may have been right, but they had stepped over the line with their actions.

    • Replies: @R.G. Camara
    @Reg Cæsar

    Despite Adams's overwhelming victories in the Boston Massacre trial for the British soldiers---demonstrating that British soldiers could receive fair trials in the colonies--- the Crown still passed a law that stated that British officials and soldiers had to have all future trials in England, not the colonies.

    That hurt Adams, and pushed him into the revolutionaries camp. He'd just demonstrated point-blank that the colonies were civilized, and the Crown refused to listen. If the Crown was going to be that deaf and pig-headed, armed rebellion(to Adams and people on the fence like Adams) now seemed the only way to get their attention or get them some rights.

  92. Government foreign policy, like government education policy and all of its other policies, suck.

    We don’t need foreign policy “mavens” (know-nothings or worse). We just need to follow the simple principles laid down by TJ: Commerce with all nations, alliances with none.

    While I’m on the topic, allowing HRC to serve as SoS was a crime against humanity. How could any foreign dignitary possibly have looked forward to a “discussion” with her?

    Downsize the State Dept! Trump needs to recall all of our ambassadors to s*hole countries, and close down our embassies (CIA substations) there.

    Under the principle of throwing out Rosemary’s baby with the bath water, Trump should also turn off the lights at our embassies in Moscow, Beijing, London, and so forth.

    The only US diplomat, who’s any good, is Rodman.

    • Replies: @Mr. Anon
    @Abolish_public_education


    Downsize the State Dept! Trump needs to recall all of our ambassadors to s*hole countries, and close down our embassies (CIA substations) there.
     
    But then american foreign service personnel would have to pay American rates for their rent-boys.

    I agree. We should reduce our diplomatic foot-print. Fewer embassies and consulates, fewer visas issued.
  93. @Altai
    In addition to her long-standing John McCain-esque support for whatever policy produces the most bodies such as in Libya, Gilad Atzmon has a write-up reminding of her role in the very recent oft-forgotten most bloody war of the post-WW2 era as well as Sudan. (Another neocon obsession)

    https://gilad.online/writings/2016/6/23/hollow-women-of-the-hegemon-part-ii-atrocity-enabling-harpies


    Susan Rice, Obama’s national security advisor, responsible for mass murders in Africa, by supporting policies that have led to the deaths of millions and the weakening of those nations' sovereignty include: the Democratic Republic of the Congo (D.R.C.), and Sudan, the two largest nations on the continent, before the break-up of Sudan in 2011. This has resulted in a permanent destabilization of the countries of the Great Lakes region and parts of the Horn of Africa. In 1996 Rice, as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director of African Affairs, supported the armies of Rwanda and Uganda to invade D.R.C. (then Zaire), and to install Laurent Kabila as its new President. From 1997-1998 Rice returned from her first trip to the Great Lakes region as the newly installed Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs. In her role she agreed to have over 1 million Hutu refugees in UN camps inside the D.R.C. removed by the armies D.R.C. neighbors Uganda and Rwanda. Rice is quoted a saying that: "Museveni [of Uganda] and Kagame [of Rwanda] agree that the basic problem in the Great Lakes is the danger of a resurgence of genocide [referring to the Rwandan Hutus who fled to the D.R.C. after Kagame took over Rwanda—LKF], and they know how to deal with that. The only thing we have to do is look the other way." Rice's "looking the other way" was followed by a decade of killing and the looting in the D.R.C. by armed groups supported by Rice's chosen "leaders" in the region, Uganda's Yoweri Museveni and Rwanda's Paul Kagama.

    In 1998 Rice was instrumental in orchestrating the bombing of the al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Omdurman, Sudan, just outside of Khartoum, allegedly for producing chemical weapons that could be used in terrorist attacks on the United States. Not a shred of evidence was ever found to justify the al-Shifa attack. Despite Rice's repeating the lie that Sudan is the only state in Sub-Saharan Africa that posed a direct threat to U.S. national security interests, no evidence was ever been made public to corroborate that allegation. In fact, the U.S. intelligence community has admitted that it has no such evidence, and has collaborated with its counterparts in Sudan in fighting terrorism. Susan Rice is a good daughter of the Hegemon; her record of killing Africans is her badge of brutality, giving her a seat at the table of the Hegemon.
     

    It's amazing how many of these paid sabbos goys there are.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin, @Buffalo Joe

    I know I probably sound like a battered spouse, but I’m hoping that a Rice VP candidacy might induce Trump-Pence to go hard anti-war.

    • Agree: Ian Smith
  94. @Almost Missouri
    @Lot

    Brown Willie's advice to Kamala is: skip the VP slot and go for the Attorney General's office, so you can replace every US Attorney in the country with your own (partisan ideologue) choice, a power that she, unlike the Republicans, will certainly use.

    Maybe VP Harris wouldn't be so bad ... but then there's that heartbeat away thing.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @Sean

    It is now so inevitable that it will be Harris that the Dems are trying to create a bit of mystery, but there is no one else that Biden can pick really. Biden isn’t going to die, and he has not even officially said he will not try for a second term. But:-

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/lot-of-issues-former-obama-doctor-says-biden-is-not-a-healthy-guy

    “I had no idea Biden had such a history. My goodness gracious, he’s got a lot of history,” Scheiner said

    Biden had two brain aneurysms in 1988, the first of which almost killed him.

    One of the aneurysms ruptured which it is unusual to recover from completely. A third of survivors are left with major neurologic deficits that often show up while trying to find the right words. I would say it is quite likely he will cease to be president at 80 years old, because everyone is on the lookout for senility in him, and he is already so diminished by the damage he suffered in 1988, that 24 month of normal aging will leave him unable to even deliver simple speeches. Rice lacks political skills, allies, and experience and her white spouse will not win her supporters. So get used to saying it: President Harris.

  95. @adreadline

    Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son
     
    https://www.ac2news.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2018-05-30-at-4.38.14-PM-442x565.png

    https://youtu.be/HagVnWAeGcM?t=95

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @RadicalCenter

    I was just about to say—that kid looks like he’s in a Mr. Bean look-alike contest.

  96. @Reg Cæsar
    @Hapalong Cassidy


    Washington was childless
     
    He had stepchildren, and siblings and cousins with descendants. Any monarchist or student of monarchy-- such as the Nova Scotia native who made that video-- could easily find a ways to keep the throne Washingtonian.

    Also, Adams had respect for the law. Despite his strong disagreements with the Crown, he defended its interests in the Boston Massacre and the Tea Party. The rebels may have been right, but they had stepped over the line with their actions.

    Replies: @R.G. Camara

    Despite Adams’s overwhelming victories in the Boston Massacre trial for the British soldiers—demonstrating that British soldiers could receive fair trials in the colonies— the Crown still passed a law that stated that British officials and soldiers had to have all future trials in England, not the colonies.

    That hurt Adams, and pushed him into the revolutionaries camp. He’d just demonstrated point-blank that the colonies were civilized, and the Crown refused to listen. If the Crown was going to be that deaf and pig-headed, armed rebellion(to Adams and people on the fence like Adams) now seemed the only way to get their attention or get them some rights.

  97. @dearieme
    Her ... son, the president of the Stanford ...

    He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Buffalo Joe, @Sent from my iStevePhone

    deari, remember privilege only pertains to Whites, although Susan Rice’s life is enviable.

  98. Kamala Harris

    Malaria Shark

    Donald Trump

    Damp Rotund L

    Rot Land Dump

    Susan Rice

    Sauce n Sir

  99. @Altai
    In addition to her long-standing John McCain-esque support for whatever policy produces the most bodies such as in Libya, Gilad Atzmon has a write-up reminding of her role in the very recent oft-forgotten most bloody war of the post-WW2 era as well as Sudan. (Another neocon obsession)

    https://gilad.online/writings/2016/6/23/hollow-women-of-the-hegemon-part-ii-atrocity-enabling-harpies


    Susan Rice, Obama’s national security advisor, responsible for mass murders in Africa, by supporting policies that have led to the deaths of millions and the weakening of those nations' sovereignty include: the Democratic Republic of the Congo (D.R.C.), and Sudan, the two largest nations on the continent, before the break-up of Sudan in 2011. This has resulted in a permanent destabilization of the countries of the Great Lakes region and parts of the Horn of Africa. In 1996 Rice, as Special Assistant to the President and Senior Director of African Affairs, supported the armies of Rwanda and Uganda to invade D.R.C. (then Zaire), and to install Laurent Kabila as its new President. From 1997-1998 Rice returned from her first trip to the Great Lakes region as the newly installed Assistant Secretary of State for African Affairs. In her role she agreed to have over 1 million Hutu refugees in UN camps inside the D.R.C. removed by the armies D.R.C. neighbors Uganda and Rwanda. Rice is quoted a saying that: "Museveni [of Uganda] and Kagame [of Rwanda] agree that the basic problem in the Great Lakes is the danger of a resurgence of genocide [referring to the Rwandan Hutus who fled to the D.R.C. after Kagame took over Rwanda—LKF], and they know how to deal with that. The only thing we have to do is look the other way." Rice's "looking the other way" was followed by a decade of killing and the looting in the D.R.C. by armed groups supported by Rice's chosen "leaders" in the region, Uganda's Yoweri Museveni and Rwanda's Paul Kagama.

    In 1998 Rice was instrumental in orchestrating the bombing of the al-Shifa pharmaceutical plant in Omdurman, Sudan, just outside of Khartoum, allegedly for producing chemical weapons that could be used in terrorist attacks on the United States. Not a shred of evidence was ever found to justify the al-Shifa attack. Despite Rice's repeating the lie that Sudan is the only state in Sub-Saharan Africa that posed a direct threat to U.S. national security interests, no evidence was ever been made public to corroborate that allegation. In fact, the U.S. intelligence community has admitted that it has no such evidence, and has collaborated with its counterparts in Sudan in fighting terrorism. Susan Rice is a good daughter of the Hegemon; her record of killing Africans is her badge of brutality, giving her a seat at the table of the Hegemon.
     

    It's amazing how many of these paid sabbos goys there are.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin, @Buffalo Joe

    Altai, “Great Lakes Region of Africa” as in Rochester, Buffalo, Niagara Falls, Cleveland,Detroit, Chicago and Milwaukee. That part of Africa?

  100. @PiltdownMan
    Kamala Harris really didn't become black until she went to Howard, an HBCU. The best I can tell, her father left home when she was two. Her parents were then separated by their careers as post-doctoral fellows (her dad had a series of stints in the mid-West while the mother was in San Francisco) until she was six, at which point they divorced. Then, she was raised in Montreal by her Indian brahmin mother and grandmother, until she finished high school.

    https://i.imgur.com/blEcDrb.jpg


    Kamala Harris' sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly.

    Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign's point of view.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jesse, @Buffalo Joe, @Lurker

    Pilt, “…she may be a Senator.” Kirsten Gillibrand is a Senator, as is Barbara Boxer,Diane Feinstein and a dozen or so more lightweights. Sad.

  101. @Hapalong Cassidy
    If a Trump defeat is a foregone conclusion, then maybe Rice is the least harmful choice. Because of her past, a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions than would Harris. And because of her white goy husband and especially her right-wing son, maybe there’s a chance she doesn’t hate white people as much as most black Dem leaders (or most Dems in general).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Jane Plain, @ben tillman

    You just reminded me of a funny exchange from “The Honeymooners.” After a long harangue from Alice about the way men act so badly, Ralph retorts thusly: ” Oh but you women get even! You get even! You MARRY US! ”

    I don’t see Rice as any friend of ours.

  102. @Bucky
    Rice is preferable to Harris, though she is not really ideal.

    Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.

    Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.

    Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.

    Replies: @guest007, @Not Only Wrathful, @Muggles, @Bernard

    Harris was a good Attorney General of California. She tackled crime. Rice was a poor NSA. She got her big decisions all wrong.

    Both seem perfectly pleasant people, who, if our political culture was healthier, would adequately pursue reasonable policies.

    • Disagree: throtler
  103. @John Foster
    All you need to know about Rice: She was the African desk at State when the Rwanda Genocide occurred. Except that she told Clinton not to say that because then the US might be obligated to do something about it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Only Wrathful, @Mr. Anon, @PSR

    What could the US have done?

    Immediately invaded a land-locked country in deepest Africa that nobody had heard of, and suddenly control all ground at the village level to keep squads of machete wielding lunatics apart?

    Who was good and who was bad and how could an American tell the difference so as to know which one to shoot?

    Seems like Rice at least had the sense of scale and humility to accept when something couldn’t be done.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Not Only Wrathful


    Seems like Rice at least had the sense of scale and humility to accept when something couldn’t be done.
     
    Right, and that would have been the end of it until, for some unknown reason, BJC decide to apologize for Rwanda.
  104. “Brown challenged her, often stretching her comfort zone. Eventually though, after many long, hard hours, she learned to attack challenges head on, and developed a firm grasp of the tools needed to succeed and overcome the ups and downs she would inevitably encounter in the fluid situations into which Brown repeatedly thrust her.”
    Just helping out a little (sorry about plagiarizing Steve’s “long and hard” line). You guys can take it from here.

    • Replies: @Herzog
    @Dmon

    Kudos!

    , @Whitey Whiteman III
    @Dmon

    The ins and outs of government work are sticky business.

  105. @Hypnotoad666
    @nebulafox

    And don't forget, the Libyan fiasco also broke our word to Russia. At that time Russia was playing nice and had agreed to support an international no-fly zone on the condition that it was only to protect refugees. We double-crossed them by bombing Ghadaffi's forces and disintegrating the whole country.

    This was humiliating to Russia on many levels, and they have never forgotten it.

    Replies: @Matt Buckalew

    Good-Russia has spend a millennia not standing by its agreements. America firsters don’t care about Putin getting scammed in a diplomatic 3 card monte game.

  106. eD says:
    @MLK
    Hindsight is going to make this one easy.

    If Trump wins handily, even in a landslide, then the Democrats engineering Biden's nomination becomes not explicable but obvious in its efficacy. It will have been the way for all concerned to put a period on this greatest of political scandals and allow the Democrats room to do a reset.

    I put it this way because throughout 2016 I kept asking and never got an answer as to why the Democrats wanted the problem that was Hillary? As a Trump supporter who assessed that he would win as long as he did so by an Electoral College margin too large for them to steal back on election night, my greatest fear in the fall was the Democrats going to Plan B in the fall after her flop and twitch on 9/11.

    Which brings us to why in the world is Biden their putative nominee and will they pull a 'Torricelli' before Election Day:

    https://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/elec02.nj.s.torricelli.race/

    I didn't explicate any of the above because I don't need to, anyone reasonably informed knows. Instead, per the subject of this post, it's to suggest that the choice between Rice and 'Heels Up' Harris is really one of whether sailing poor Joe's ship before Election Day is taken off the table to ensure it isn't forced upon Biden's handlers.

    Rice cannot headline the Democrat ticket. At least not one that isn't going to lose in a landslide. Selecting her means it's Biden as nominee, come what may.

    Conversely, Harris certainly can be swapped in as nominee for president. Indeed, I assume there's a solid faction pushing for exactly that after their Potemkin Village convention nominates their Potemkin Village Idiot.

    This explains what I believe is a massive struggle behind the Democrat curtain at the moment. Anointing Harris is likely a violation of side agreements made with Cuomo, Newsom and others that the Obama and Clinton factions won't lock up control of the parry for this years and 2024's election cycles, win or lose.

    Choosing Rice also constrains, or at least complicates, whatever Barr has planned in the coming weeks (i.e. before September 4th) on the 2016 malefactions by the Obama Administration against Trump.

    Replies: @eD, @eD

    MLK is making a mistake that I keep seeing otherwise informed commentators making.

    The process is somewhat complicated, but I will try to keep this short. A designated presidential or vice presidential nominee of the Democratic and Republican party is not a legal position, so any presidential selection rules don’t apply. Only once the Electoral College (or relevant house of Congress in the event of a deadlock) elects a President and Vice President in December is Vice Presdient elect relevant if there is a presidential vacancy of some sort. If you have not been voted in by the Electoral College, you are neither the President nor Vice Presidential elect, so there is no legal requirement for you to be replaced.

    If the Democrats nominate Biden, under the party by-laws, which are what is relevant, can designate another presidential nominee at any time before the Electoral College votes. Note that this is before the Electoral College vote, it can occur after ordinary voters have voted (for the Electors). This need not be whoever they have nominated for Vice President, who has nothing to do with this.

    The only reason this comes up is that up until now, 1984 being the only possible exception, the political parties have been careful not to nominate obviously senile people for President. But if a party insists on doing this with the intention of doing a switcheroo later, they can do the switch for anyone up until the Electoral College votes. Whoever they nominate for Vice President is not important until then.

    • Thanks: Muggles, Voltarde
  107. @PiltdownMan
    Kamala Harris really didn't become black until she went to Howard, an HBCU. The best I can tell, her father left home when she was two. Her parents were then separated by their careers as post-doctoral fellows (her dad had a series of stints in the mid-West while the mother was in San Francisco) until she was six, at which point they divorced. Then, she was raised in Montreal by her Indian brahmin mother and grandmother, until she finished high school.

    https://i.imgur.com/blEcDrb.jpg


    Kamala Harris' sister, who was also her campaign manager, seems far more educationally accomplished than she is; although she was teenage mother at 17, she went to Berkeley and Stanford Law. She may be a Senator, but everything about her manner and affect suggest complexes galore. For a former California attorney general and prosecutor, she is curiously weak when attacked directly.

    Compared to Rice, chances are she is a weaker choice for Biden, and thus, a better choice from the Trump campaign's point of view.

    Replies: @Kent Nationalist, @Jesse, @Buffalo Joe, @Lurker

    Also, Maya appears to be the pretty one of the two.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  108. It is customary for Vice Presidential candidates to have held elective office, usually recently. Presumably to prove that they are or were in touch with the will of the people. Even Eminence Grise Dick Cheney had once been a Representative. Rice has never been anything other than a foreign policy functionary.

    Then again, as this country really isn’t a democracy, what does it really matter?

  109. @dearieme
    Her ... son, the president of the Stanford ...

    He beat remarkable odds to get into Stanford, eh?

    Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Buffalo Joe, @Sent from my iStevePhone

    Stanford was founded to memorialize the guy’s son who died from COVID-1884 doing his young-buck “grand tour” of Europe IIRC.

    I came up in the 80s and can remember how the U. would draw chortles of “football farm” and “rich kid nursery” from Southern Californian toffs… but venture-capital cocaine is clearly a hell of a drug

    • Replies: @Old Palo Altan
    @Sent from my iStevePhone

    Why would "Southern Californian toffs" be complaining about a "rich kid nursery"?

    Surely they didn't think that USC was anything different?

  110. eD says:
    @MLK
    Hindsight is going to make this one easy.

    If Trump wins handily, even in a landslide, then the Democrats engineering Biden's nomination becomes not explicable but obvious in its efficacy. It will have been the way for all concerned to put a period on this greatest of political scandals and allow the Democrats room to do a reset.

    I put it this way because throughout 2016 I kept asking and never got an answer as to why the Democrats wanted the problem that was Hillary? As a Trump supporter who assessed that he would win as long as he did so by an Electoral College margin too large for them to steal back on election night, my greatest fear in the fall was the Democrats going to Plan B in the fall after her flop and twitch on 9/11.

    Which brings us to why in the world is Biden their putative nominee and will they pull a 'Torricelli' before Election Day:

    https://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/10/01/elec02.nj.s.torricelli.race/

    I didn't explicate any of the above because I don't need to, anyone reasonably informed knows. Instead, per the subject of this post, it's to suggest that the choice between Rice and 'Heels Up' Harris is really one of whether sailing poor Joe's ship before Election Day is taken off the table to ensure it isn't forced upon Biden's handlers.

    Rice cannot headline the Democrat ticket. At least not one that isn't going to lose in a landslide. Selecting her means it's Biden as nominee, come what may.

    Conversely, Harris certainly can be swapped in as nominee for president. Indeed, I assume there's a solid faction pushing for exactly that after their Potemkin Village convention nominates their Potemkin Village Idiot.

    This explains what I believe is a massive struggle behind the Democrat curtain at the moment. Anointing Harris is likely a violation of side agreements made with Cuomo, Newsom and others that the Obama and Clinton factions won't lock up control of the parry for this years and 2024's election cycles, win or lose.

    Choosing Rice also constrains, or at least complicates, whatever Barr has planned in the coming weeks (i.e. before September 4th) on the 2016 malefactions by the Obama Administration against Trump.

    Replies: @eD, @eD

    John Michael Greer wrote once that the Democrats and Republicans have a long standing agreement to switch the White House back and forth between the two parties on every eight years. That would explain why the presidential nominees on the “wrong” years since the Cold War ended, the ones that are nominated to throw the election (Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney, H. Clinton, Biden) were either undermined by their own parties, exactly the wrong candidate for that year, or otherwise deeply flawed. Political scientist Walter Karp had the same theory (https://www.amazon.com/Indispensable-Enemies-Politics-Misrule-America/dp/1879957132), it may have been where Greer picked it up.

    This election would follow the pattern, except the Donks are really overdoing it, and it seems that neither major party nominee are supposed to win the election.

    • Replies: @MLK
    @eD

    Incumbent presidents have built-in advantages. The opposite holds for either party obtaining a third-term in a row.

    H.W. Bush won in 1988 because Peace and Prosperity.

    Democrats had high hopes when he took office that Obama would be their Reagan, initiating a Democrat-era well beyond his eight years. The problem was Obama and the Democrats didn't deliver and he only won a second term by morphing from a unifying candidate and president to purveyor of nasty identity politics.

    No one seemed to notice, or perhaps quickly forgot, that it was evident as early as 2014 that Hillary intended to run on the Democrat equivalent of H.W. Bush's kindler and gentler thingie. Meaning she would be presented as more to the center, particularly on foreign policy, which meant loud and proud NeoCon.

    The old colostomy bag was forced to abandon running on the H.W. Bush template, first by Sanders and then Trump. Remember, her campaign ended up with the battle of the sexes horseshoe and some version of what Johnson used against Goldwater.

    This is merely one example of how having a captive, Allied Media, can prove a weakness rather than a strength. Democrats thought it was more than enough that the media fawned over figurehead Obama as if he was the second coming.

  111. @Sean
    No, Libya is exactly the sort of small powerless country the US should be able to kick around, and the Middle East is no longer important anyway. The danger with Rice is she considers Russia to be, as she recently put it, "our arch-adversary". In power, for she would in effect be being appointed president for three years at least, Rice will keep hammering away at the Russians supporting the Republicans. The attitude to Russia in foreign policy would be hostile.

    America simply has to bring Russia on board a Western grand alliance. Annoying though the Russians are, we need them. China is not going to attack Russia like Hitler did; we need to inveigle them away from China. A professional diplomat is going to find it easy to sidestep the real emergency to do an end run into a new cold war with Russia. While there may be a cold war with China too, the the West simply couldn't have been buried by the USSR, so the stakes were actually very low, and the most fateful phase of of the confrontation between the US and USSR was anti communist Nixon bringing China into the World Bank system where it got capital for a economic blast off. In a nutshell, Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden's VP pick.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr McKenna

    Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden’s VP pick.

    Russia and China are not a good fit for each other – their natural position is that of competitors, not allies. They share borders and the Russians are naturally suspicious that the Chinese have their eyes on the underpopulated Russian Far East. Culturally they are like oil and water. Having two strong man dictators may make it easier to make a deal (just like Hitler was able to make a deal with Stalin) but making a deal and keeping it are two different things (as Stalin found out the hard way).

    OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. As a low trust society, any attempt to adhere to Western norms ends in chaos so Russia always reverts to strong man rule.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Sean
    @Jack D

    Once Putin departs, things in Russia will go the same way as in France after De Gaulle, when the country got inexorably drawn into Germany's orbit. The next set of Russian leaders will phrase their policy as neutralising China through engagement, but really they'll need China to pay for the Russian living standards to be maintained. We cannot wait for Putin's era to end in the expectation Russia will see sense then.

    , @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. "

    This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.

    Russia discovered in the 90s that "joining the West" meant in practice having all the State's assets looted by Larry Summers' cousins thrice removed, so that it was more like joining the West Bank.

    A catastrophic drop in living standards and life expectancy was accompanied by the concentration of enormous wealth in the hands of criminal oligarchs.

    It's not surprising that patriotic Russians had second thoughts. What IS surprising is that Putin, chosen by the oligarchs as a front man, was able to turn against them and remain alive.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    , @dfordoom
    @Jack D


    Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it.
     
    Doesn't that just prove that they're smart? That they realise that westernisation would mean the end of Russia.
    , @Magic Dirt Resident
    @Jack D

    Russia isn't a western country and never has been. They've always occupied a unique position between east and west- geographically, culturally, and ethnically.

  112. @Thoughts
    White liberal women have got to be figuring out that they come dead last in the Democrat party

    Why can't Biden pick a white woman?

    I think that's what he should do.

    The blacks got their freebies, it's the liberal white women who are losing their minds.

    Make THEM happy

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Why can’t Biden pick a white woman?

    Nurse Ratched Gretchen Whitmer recently visited Biden at his rest home house, reportedly to discuss her being the VP candidate

    https://apnews.com/65025dc16aa18353cf868658d9b2314a

    None of the black women candidates help him win a swing-state. I guess the thinking is that Ilsa She Wolf of the SS Whitmer might help the ticket win Michigan. That’s assuming she hasn’t pissed off enough white people in the state yet by decreeing that they can’t use their motor-boats and declaring racism a public-heath emergency.

  113. @Abolish_public_education
    Government foreign policy, like government education policy and all of its other policies, suck.

    We don’t need foreign policy “mavens” (know-nothings or worse). We just need to follow the simple principles laid down by TJ: Commerce with all nations, alliances with none.

    While I’m on the topic, allowing HRC to serve as SoS was a crime against humanity. How could any foreign dignitary possibly have looked forward to a “discussion” with her?

    Downsize the State Dept! Trump needs to recall all of our ambassadors to s*hole countries, and close down our embassies (CIA substations) there.

    Under the principle of throwing out Rosemary’s baby with the bath water, Trump should also turn off the lights at our embassies in Moscow, Beijing, London, and so forth.

    The only US diplomat, who’s any good, is Rodman.

    Replies: @Mr. Anon

    Downsize the State Dept! Trump needs to recall all of our ambassadors to s*hole countries, and close down our embassies (CIA substations) there.

    But then american foreign service personnel would have to pay American rates for their rent-boys.

    I agree. We should reduce our diplomatic foot-print. Fewer embassies and consulates, fewer visas issued.

  114. However, Kamala Harris appears to lie rather casually and frequently. To quote myself, writing elsewhere:

    [MORE]

    ‘I noted some time ago her improbable claim that as a child she collected money door-to-door for the Israel Fund.

    Really? Now this from Wikipedia:

    ‘…She identifies herself as black and sees her experience primarily as American.[12] Harris was raised in Berkeley, California, with her younger sister, Maya Harris.[13][14] She grew up attending both a Black Baptist church, where she and her sister sang in the choir, and a Hindu temple.[15] As a child, Harris used to visit her extended family in Chennai and was reportedly close to her maternal grandfather P.V. Gopalan, a career civil servant for the federal Government of India.[8][16] Harris began kindergarten in the second year of Berkeley’s school desegregation busing program, which adopted busing to bring racial balance to the city’s public schools; a bus drove her to a school which, two years prior, had been 95% white.[17] Her parents divorced when she was 7; when she and her sister would visit their father in Palo Alto on weekends, she stated that neighbors’ kids were not allowed to play with them because they were black…’

    Again, Really? Her mother is Indian and the divorced father is a professor at Stanford. Why would she attend a Black Baptist Church? The neighbors didn’t let their children play with her because she was black in 1970’s Palo Alto?’

    This tendency to tell what appear to be obvious lies may or may not keep the Democrats from nominating her — but it’s very likely to come back to bite her at some point during the campaign. Fox News et al are practically made to call out this level of crap.

  115. @Jesse
    Serious question:

    In modern times, has the American Black refusal to separate Black and Mullato/a into separate groups (as logic would dictate) been good or bad overall for Blacks and the country as a whole?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Jesse, can’t answer for the country, but because it is not a zero sum game mullatos get all the benefits accorded to blacks, so it is good for blacks. Always lots of benefits for anyone who identifies as black.

  116. @Jack D
    @Sean


    Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden’s VP pick.
     
    Russia and China are not a good fit for each other - their natural position is that of competitors, not allies. They share borders and the Russians are naturally suspicious that the Chinese have their eyes on the underpopulated Russian Far East. Culturally they are like oil and water. Having two strong man dictators may make it easier to make a deal (just like Hitler was able to make a deal with Stalin) but making a deal and keeping it are two different things (as Stalin found out the hard way).

    OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. As a low trust society, any attempt to adhere to Western norms ends in chaos so Russia always reverts to strong man rule.

    Replies: @Sean, @YetAnotherAnon, @dfordoom, @Magic Dirt Resident

    Once Putin departs, things in Russia will go the same way as in France after De Gaulle, when the country got inexorably drawn into Germany’s orbit. The next set of Russian leaders will phrase their policy as neutralising China through engagement, but really they’ll need China to pay for the Russian living standards to be maintained. We cannot wait for Putin’s era to end in the expectation Russia will see sense then.

  117. @Mario Partisan
    @Buffalo Joe

    I sympathize with your comment.


    Bernie was running a good race, I liked him in the debates, and suddenly the black women voters of South Carolina annoint Joe the candidate. Strange in my opinion.

     

    Unfortunately, it isn’t so strange. Bernie ran a campaign centered around left-populist policy themes. Creepy Joe was a good cracka who played second fiddle to Obama, and consequently his life-long career representing the true residents of DE, Master Card and Visa, was happily ignored. I have been to Wilmington a time or two and I have always had a feeling of sadness being in that city. That city epitomizes the nature of DNC-democrat rule: A corporate class and its servants presiding over a permanent black underclass. It’s almost like the old KKK democrats traded in their hoods for suits and carried on as usual in the new urban plantations.

    The sad fact is that much of the American electorate, across various identities, would rather vote for an empty suit who panders to their narcissism than for a candidate who talks policy to them. The latter kind actually turns a lot of them off as they feel they are being talked down to. The only part of your post I really tend to disagree with, though, is the last sentence:


    America deserves better than this.
     
    Does it really?

    Replies: @Buffalo Joe

    Mario, very nice, well thought out replay. People, like me, thought Bernie was as far left as a serious candidate could go, but who knew the dems would cave to bLM demands and the AntiFas and their violence? America could do better than this…is that better stated?

  118. In turn, the murder of Gadaphee, who had made a deal with Italy’s Berlusconi to reduce sub-Saharan migration thru the Mediterranean, led to to the ensuing migrant crisis.

    In Berlusconi’s 15 years as Prime Minister, he spent something like 2,200 days in Court.
    The Lawfare against him was colossal.

  119. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    I was in Tripoli twice (or maybe three times) back in the Qaddafi era.

    (I like the Q name, not G; he is about the only major nation leader whose name was constantly being spelled differently in the western media, though not usually in the same article.)

    It was okay but I recommended our oil drilling business leave asap on my last visit. Six months later Qaddafi kicked out all of the Americans.

    One thing stood out. On departing the Tripoli airport you passed through a non functional scanner. No one checked your carry on or performed any kind of security check other than passport/visa. The secret police (or so they seemed) were even helpful. No one was hijacking aircraft out of Tripoli.

    Hillary and S. Rice screwed that place up royally, like Bush did with Iraq. “Better the devil you know…”

  120. At the same time that white people are oppressive, they fail to be impressive.

    First response on 4chan: “she was confused by the lack of public [email protected]%!ting.” And I would add, catastrophic public transport crashes.

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @J.Ross

    More delusional pap from the Irish Times which as usual puts the New York Times to shame!

    , @3g4me
    @J.Ross

    @121 J.Ross: Subcons and Han, plagues across the earth.

    , @JohnnyWalker123
    @J.Ross

    Irish Times or (((Irish)) Times?

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

  121. @Bucky
    Rice is preferable to Harris, though she is not really ideal.

    Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.

    Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.

    Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.

    Replies: @guest007, @Not Only Wrathful, @Muggles, @Bernard

    Odd but unmentioned HBD fact.

    Both Harris and Rice are biracial. Just like Obama. Yet the MSM always refers to them as black (or now, Black.) Obama was the “first biracial president” (though some argue otherwise) not the first “black/Black” president.

    It’s like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.

    Kinda makes you think…

    • Replies: @Mario Partisan
    @Muggles


    It’s like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.

     

    It’s called “chucking your privilege.” A smart move for the ambitious social climber these days.
    , @Flip
    @Muggles

    Well, to be fair I don't see white southerners claiming their mostly black distant cousins given the "one drop rule."

    Replies: @Muggles

  122. @Sent from my iStevePhone
    @dearieme

    Stanford was founded to memorialize the guy’s son who died from COVID-1884 doing his young-buck “grand tour” of Europe IIRC.

    I came up in the 80s and can remember how the U. would draw chortles of “football farm” and “rich kid nursery” from Southern Californian toffs... but venture-capital cocaine is clearly a hell of a drug

    Replies: @Old Palo Altan

    Why would “Southern Californian toffs” be complaining about a “rich kid nursery”?

    Surely they didn’t think that USC was anything different?

  123. @sayless
    @Almost Missouri

    If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Reg Cæsar

    >>If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.<<

    You say this for effect. Well said.

    But I have yet to read/hear of anyone regardless of politics who actually did emigrate from the US after an election.

    Alec Baldwin and dozens of other crazed Hillaryites used to say that in 2015, yet they are all still here. Sadly. Some may still be repeating that lie.

    So this is, regardless of intent, the rhetorical equivalent of shooting off blanks.

  124. @Mario Partisan
    Castro worship vs. Bibi worship – which is worse?

    Replies: @Richard S

    In terms of masculine charisma it’d be hard to choose between a victorious guerrilla revolutionary who seized and held power for decades; and a former special forces commando who permanently changed his country’s political scene and uses every trick in the book to strengthen the ethnic basis of his Folkstate.

    Politics aside, they’re both titans.

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  125. @Darwin's Sh-tlist
    The prominence of Harris and Rice are further signs that the historical black American population is going through its own Hillbilly Elegy treatment. Looking at current black elites, a significantly disproportionate number of them have recent African, Caribbean, or biracial ancestry. How many Americans have an Afro/Indian ancestry similar to Harris'? A few hundred? A few dozen? People with backgrounds like George Floyd's are useful to the elites to bleat on about racism, but they're increasingly marginalized from the top ranks of power in favor of - and by - people with more exotic backgrounds.

    To their credit, unlike their white counterparts, legacy black Americans don't seem to be going down without a fight.

    Replies: @Charlotte

    The diversity push in film, TV, the music biz, academia, journalism, politics, you name it, favors very light-skinned blacks over typical American blacks to an amazing degree. It’s as if every white person in public life were a blue-eyed blonde. And yeah, there’s probably a good reason for that. But I wonder whether the average American black resents it, or just feels proud that they have representation?

  126. @AnotherDad

    Strange in my opinion. America deserves better than this.
     
    America has "deserved" better presidents than every one we've had since Eisenhower.

    And if you look back with a critical eye it's overall not a very impressive list period.

    "Deserved" simply has very little to do with it. If we want better we have to get to work and demand better.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Reg Cæsar, @throtler

    America has “deserved” better presidents than every one we’ve had since Eisenhower.

    The presidents before Eisenhower were even more destructive. Except, as always, the “do-nothings”. I’ll take a string of Fords or Coolidges over a “great” one any decade. There must be some high minimum amount of damage done, a “deductable” so to speak, to meet before historians label a president great.

    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
    @Reg Cæsar


    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.
     
    Reagan signed the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty, which was the only highly significant effect of his presidency ... and a disaster for the nation. (I guess the China trade was opened and boosted as well--another disaster.)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr McKenna

    , @Flip
    @Reg Cæsar

    I didn't vote for him, but Clinton was actually reasonably moderate and capable. Part of that may have been Gingrich pushing him right.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    , @Rob McX
    @Reg Cæsar

    Being a do-nothing was OK a hundred years ago, but it's not good enough nowadays. A president needs to do something to reverse the actions of all his "great" predecessors.

  127. @sayless
    @Almost Missouri

    If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.

    Replies: @Muggles, @Reg Cæsar

    If Kamala Harris becomes Vice President I will leave the country.

    Don’t worry. Considering Biden’s condition, she wouldn’t be Vice President for very long!

  128. The Establishment wants an Obama Third Term. A so-called return to normalcy. Rice as VP guarantees this.

    Rice’s mother worked for The Brookings Institue (as would Rice herself) and her father for the World Bank. Her father would sit on the Federal Reserve Board.

    Rice is Mariana Trench levels of Deep State, a National Security State pod person.

    As Obama’s National Security Advisor, Rice was a central actor in the decision to illegally spy on the Trump campaign in 2016. If Russiagate, the Mueller Investigation, the Ukrainegate Impeachment and the ongoing Burn This Mothafucka To The Ground BLM Color Revolution are all Deep State ops to protect the Obama Administration and the Neoliberal New World Order, why the hell wouldn’t Rice be the VP?

    The National Security Council and the CIA, the real power behind the throne, want one of their own pulling the strings of a zombie president drifting off into dementia. A zombie emperor of a zombie empire.

    Dark Days.

  129. OT; I don’t know what other things you guys are following, but Trump is waging war on the polls. He just signed a few executive orders. Deferring payroll tax from August 1st until January 1st, pausing student loan interest, extending the 600 a week federal unemployment benefit. He’s sprinting to the finish line. I don’t agree with the 600 a week federal unemployment, that’s insane. And I’m not sure how deferring payroll tax will affect me, I might be for it but I’d have to look into it. When it comes to student loans I think those little cockroaches should should pay back all their interest. But it isn’t their fault that schools are closed, so I can see pausing interest for the foreseeable futures. I just don’t understand why they aren’t all getting jobs. There are plenty of jobs right now… they should go pick up a shovel.
    Im feeling generally cautious yet optimistic. In terms of the election trump is sprinting towards the finish line.

    • Replies: @Flip
    @Kyle

    This is why gold is now $2000. I expect bonds and the dollar to drop some.

    Replies: @donut

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Kyle

    Agree that this is great politics on DJT's part. Even if his orders border on the illegal, Democrats will look like Scrooge when they go to court to overturn them.

    Replies: @epebble

  130. If we assume that former President Obama is still the Mr. Big in the Democratic power structure, then I’d say that Susan Rice has the inside track.

    But will she let Obama run her when she becomes Ms. Big?

    • Replies: @Voltarde
    @Christopher Chantrill

    I thought that Harris was a shoo-in for VP, but the comment by "Scott in PA" about Deval Patrick has raised some doubts. If Obama is still Mr. Big, it could very well be Patrick for VP, as I think Patrick is Obama's favorite.

    Adding to this speculation is the question: What does Mrs. Big in the Democratic Party have to say about the VP choice? Michelle Obama seems to have eclipsed her husband. She has passed on the VP slot, but given her now elevated status (and 100% blackness), she may prefer not to share the adulation that she now receives with another female near-black competitor. Y-negative genotypes are prickly about these social status things! That should make Deval Patrick's star rise.

    Trump, under no circumstances, wins the 2020 election as candidate Trump 1.0. Sadly, in the event of an unexpected win, it will be Javanka all the way down, especially during a lame-duck term. There may even be an attempt to secure the 2024 nomination for Ivanka--a full-blown cult of personality. That's my cynical take, especially seeing how Javanka and the Axis of Weevils in "Trump's" administration are serving up swamp creatures in the senate primaries.

    I hope I am wrong.

  131. @Jane Plain
    I've seen Malcolm Gladwell on the street.

    He is mucho tiny.

    Replies: @Herzog

    You mean, like a duck?

  132. The more accomplished or attractive a black woman is, the more likely she is to marry a white man.

  133. Steve, you write that Rice is in the top 1% of blacks–that I’ll agree with. Can we agree that no 100% sub-Saharans are in this 1% cohort? My reading of Rice’s IQ is that she’s on the par of an average law partner (125-135). Not so impressive

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @Meretricious

    'Steve, you write that Rice is in the top 1% of blacks–that I’ll agree with. Can we agree that no 100% sub-Saharans are in this 1% cohort? My reading of Rice’s IQ is that she’s on the par of an average law partner (125-135). Not so impressive'

    Rice is pretty obviously mostly white. I doubt her IQ is much affected.

    Replies: @3g4me

  134. @Muggles
    @Bucky

    Odd but unmentioned HBD fact.

    Both Harris and Rice are biracial. Just like Obama. Yet the MSM always refers to them as black (or now, Black.) Obama was the "first biracial president" (though some argue otherwise) not the first "black/Black" president.

    It's like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.

    Kinda makes you think...

    Replies: @Mario Partisan, @Flip

    It’s like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.

    It’s called “chucking your privilege.” A smart move for the ambitious social climber these days.

  135. @Patrick Boyle
    @nebulafox

    The myth lives on. Jimmy Carter was widely hailed at the time as a nuclear engineer. That's preposterous. Carter had been an officer in a conventional submarine. He had had no background in the new nuclear subs whatsoever but he wanted to fill out his resume to prepare for his next possible promotion. So he took a night course in something like a general survey course for business men who wanted to learn some nuclear energy terms. So his one survey night class at a junior college got inflated by his campaign staff to "Nuclear Engineer".

    Replies: @JRB, @Hibernian, @Anonymous

    You’re exaggerating slightly. He became a nuclear submarine officer and the course he took was at Rennselaer Poytechnic Institute.

    • Thanks: Kyle
    • Replies: @Foreign Expert
    @Hibernian


    Rennselaer Poytechnic Institute
     
    Not surprisingly, poytech i located in Honolulu.
  136. @Dmon
    "Brown challenged her, often stretching her comfort zone. Eventually though, after many long, hard hours, she learned to attack challenges head on, and developed a firm grasp of the tools needed to succeed and overcome the ups and downs she would inevitably encounter in the fluid situations into which Brown repeatedly thrust her."
    Just helping out a little (sorry about plagiarizing Steve's "long and hard" line). You guys can take it from here.

    Replies: @Herzog, @Whitey Whiteman III

    Kudos!

  137. @Patrick Boyle
    @slumber_j

    At the time Treasure Island (the US Navy's WWII artificial island in SF Bay) was said to have been run by Willie Brown's girl friend. I never read her name or saw her picture. I think it must have been Harris but I'm not sure. Whoever she was, she took over the main residence and governed her own little island.

    Replies: @Larry, San Francisco

    Willy Brown has had a lot of girlfriends.

  138. Kamala Harris? Susan Rice? They’re the results of a nation-wide search?

    Is Jim Webb not available?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Coemgen

    Webb is as old as Trump and the Left has no use for him.

  139. @JerseyJeffersonian
    This was directed toward a comment by Hynotoad666. Don't know why it didn't take...

    That, among other incidents, convinced the Russians that the United States was "not agreement-capable", in other words complete liars, as the shallow assholes in charge decide to go back on agreements so often that it is reasonable to suppose that they never intended to honor them in the first place. This has lead to them believing that the US, as well as their compradors in their sphere, are contemptible. They are correct in this perception. Bad, bad mistake.

    But then, these are the same US "elites" who still believe that the actual size of the Russian economy is equivalent to that of one mid-sized US state. Well, no, fuckwits, this is a nation that has worked assiduously to, in as many ways possible, attain autarchy in all credible measures of national power, especially in the realm of the military. Geez, where did all of those hypersonic cruise missiles come from? And howzabout the missile and electronic countermeasures knowhow that took out attacks on their bases in Syria? And that "moribund" shipbuilding industry that keeps laying down new keels, and upgrading existing, still viable warships to state of the art? Oh, and they are actually rather glad about all of those "crippling" sanctions that provided them with all the reason they needed to become more independent in areas such as agriculture and technology. Stupidity on a level with the US having gifted the Red Chinese with advanced technologies, and placed our national well-being at their mercy while surrendering industry after industry to them, compromising our self-dependence, and eliminating employment for millions - millions - of US workers through corporate labor arbitrage games.

    This is a nation with whom we should be on proper, respectful terms. But no, some Jews bitter about something that may have happened more than 100 years ago in the long dead Russian Empire to their great great grandparents, and pissed that they got tossed out on their asses while trying to take over Russia and gain total control of their natural resources at the end of the Cold War, are doing all that they can to make this impossible. Spiteful wreckers.

    Replies: @Cortes, @The Wild Geese Howard

    And the fooling of Medvedev led to the return of “Lord Sauron” who has just shuffled Medvedev out the door.

  140. @Jesse
    @PiltdownMan

    That picture explains a lot. Harris is White compared to Blacks, Indian compared to Whites, and visibly more SSA than the Indians. While she seems to get on better, personally, with rich, disproportionately White PMC types, she might've tried to do an Obama and find a racial community. And work to her advantage, of course.

    It's fascinating that she appeared to get no traction with Blacks, especially the women. What happened there?

    Replies: @Bucky

    She has that glibness to her that blacks can see is often associated with the entitled Karens calling the cops on them for having a cookout.

    She is childless which actually is quite problematic. She would be the first president since the late 1800’s who is childless.

    Not having biological children can make a person more extreme and ideological, and not possess the experience of compromise, coaxing, that comes with raising a child.

    She is married to a white Jewish man.

    Harris isn’t really popular amongst the people. She is popular amongst DC professional women. She is an identity politics choice for them, and not the average black American.

  141. @John Foster
    All you need to know about Rice: She was the African desk at State when the Rwanda Genocide occurred. Except that she told Clinton not to say that because then the US might be obligated to do something about it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Only Wrathful, @Mr. Anon, @PSR

    I have heard it said that the genocide narrative is false – that it was really a civil war with an armed incursion by Tutsi based in Uganda, which the west labeled a genocide by the Hutu against the Tutsi because the West favored the Tutsi. I haven’t looked into it in any detail, so I can’t vouch for that view. And honestly, I don’t really care. America certainly doesn’t need to get mixed up in Africa (although given that the Pentagon now has an “Africom”, I expect that we will). If Rice kept us out of that business, then good for her.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    The Rwanda genocide was rather like the Great Terror in Revolutionary France. The old masters, the Tutsis, were invading with the help of foreign powers (Uganda), and the new ruling class went nuts and started murdering people.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Herzog, @Not Raul, @The Wild Geese Howard

    , @Mario Partisan
    @Mr. Anon

    The Rwandan genocide, the only genocide ever in which the mass murder of the victims is immediately followed by the victims’ immediate taking of political power. “The Hutu killed so many Tutsis in a one-sided fashion that the Tutsis won!” Imagine that.

    And to think that those who question this story are labeled “deniers” and doing so is illegal in Rwanda. Not suspicious at all.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/rwanda-the-enduring-lies-a-project-censored-interview-with-professor-ed-herman/5502707

    , @workforlivn
    @Mr. Anon

    Africom is run out of Stuttgart Germany. Ear to the ground.

  142. @syonredux

    Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son, the president of the Stanford Young Republicans, is pale (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).
     
    In terms of facial morphology, I think that her daughter is slightly more SSA looking than the son.

    https://fox40jackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/103736/susan-rice-on-her-trump-supporting-son-i-love-him-dearly.jpg


    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/14/19440860-7550115-image-m-20_1570541079591.jpg

    Replies: @anon, @Father Coughlin, @AnotherDad, @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Edward Dutton has some theories about mixed-race children. They are generally not good-looking (although a few black and white models have stood out for the curiosity factor and have caused the PC meme that the mix is actually beautiful).

    See Robert Deniro’s children. Even last year’s Super Bowl-winning quarterback, a true alpha, looks “off” in the face to me.

    • Agree: 3g4me
  143. @Mr. Anon
    @John Foster

    I have heard it said that the genocide narrative is false - that it was really a civil war with an armed incursion by Tutsi based in Uganda, which the west labeled a genocide by the Hutu against the Tutsi because the West favored the Tutsi. I haven't looked into it in any detail, so I can't vouch for that view. And honestly, I don't really care. America certainly doesn't need to get mixed up in Africa (although given that the Pentagon now has an "Africom", I expect that we will). If Rice kept us out of that business, then good for her.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mario Partisan, @workforlivn

    The Rwanda genocide was rather like the Great Terror in Revolutionary France. The old masters, the Tutsis, were invading with the help of foreign powers (Uganda), and the new ruling class went nuts and started murdering people.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Steve Sailer

    The downing of the President

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16472013

    had nothing, not in the slightest, to do with the actions of the incoming regime.

    Which was nice. And it was all the fault of the upstart ousted baddies. Who smelled and had no table manners.

    , @Herzog
    @Steve Sailer

    If I remember things correctly from reading Gérard Prunier's Africa's World War One some years ago, the Hutus had already commenced killing the Tutsis on a large scale when the Kagame Tutsis moved in from, and with the help of, Uganda (where their parent generation had fled a generation before, from an earlier round of Rwandan ethnic mass murder) to topple the Hutu government and stop the killing of their Tutsi co-ethnics.

    It was strictly in that order, Prunier emphatically states: According to him, the Kagame troops deliberately moved in slower than they could have so as to give the Hutu génocidaires sufficient time to kill off the local Tutsi elite, thereby ridding them of prospective Tutsi rivals after the overthrow of Hutu rule.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Reg Cæsar

    , @Not Raul
    @Steve Sailer

    Did the Tutsis & Uganda have a falling out in recent years?

    , @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Steve Sailer

    Man, with all this Rwanda talk I felt like we needed some Hutu Power Radio up in this piece:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qx7JMpOI

  144. @Dan Hayes
    Steve,

    Your statement that Harris served "in various positions under master politician Willie Brown" is not a Freudian slip but literally factual. HA, HA more HAs!

    Replies: @Mike Pierson, Davenport Rector, Midfielder, @Bardon Kaldian, @anon, @Lot, @Inquiring Mind, @Jim Bob Lassiter, @wren

    A Freudian slip would be more like Kamala saying that she owes her start in politics to a big brown willie or something.

    • LOL: Dan Hayes
  145. @Frank G
    I’m sure her marriage is stable since she’s obviously a lesbian. Wonder if she’s going to spend the next two months in the tanning booth to dispel any doubt of her POC-ness.

    Replies: @Mr. Grey, @LMD

    At first I thought you were talking about Harris, who only conveniently got married before her Senate run. The only other relationship of hers that I’ve been able to find is her latching on to the married SF politician Willie Brown, who made all the right connections for her.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Grey

    Kamala's husband Douglas Emhoff seems pretty normal. He was a successful business lawyer with an ex-wife and two kids.

  146. Harris would be swimming against history also in having had no children. That hasnt happened at the Presidential level since James Buchanan (pre-Civil war) and perhaps that long for the vice-presidency (though Wilson’s Veep, Thomas Marshall, only had a foster son).

    But with more and more confirmed cat-ladies in the voting public than ever, childlessness might be a polotical asset, who knows.

  147. @Coemgen
    Kamala Harris? Susan Rice? They're the results of a nation-wide search?

    Is Jim Webb not available?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    Webb is as old as Trump and the Left has no use for him.

  148. Anonymous[306] • Disclaimer says:

    Seems not all the neo’s are on-board with Susie Q:
    http://www.nationalreview.com/2020/08/five-more-things-you-probably-didnt-know-about-susan-rice/

    I gotta say Harris doesn’t seem that bright. Not saying she’s a ditz — but her excursion asking Kavanaugh if he knew a random name from a random law firm decades ago was not a great competence-signalling moment. Most Washington jobs depend on projecting more intelligence than, reasonably, you ought to have in that position.

    Does Harris have any known FP positions?? How does the campaign NOT turn to law enforcement quadruple-bankshot-kabuki triangulation, should she get the nom?

  149. @syonredux

    Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son, the president of the Stanford Young Republicans, is pale (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).
     
    In terms of facial morphology, I think that her daughter is slightly more SSA looking than the son.

    https://fox40jackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/103736/susan-rice-on-her-trump-supporting-son-i-love-him-dearly.jpg


    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/14/19440860-7550115-image-m-20_1570541079591.jpg

    Replies: @anon, @Father Coughlin, @AnotherDad, @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    Not attractive kids.

    Interesting, cause i don’t think Susan Rice is an unattractive woman–high side of average–ok facial symmetry, nothing too weird going on. She’s and her husband just didn’t mix well–at least in terms of looks. (The son seems pretty cool in terms of figuring stuff out for himself. Betting would be daughter is a tedious SJW.)

    • Agree: Father Coughlin, 3g4me
    • Replies: @LMD
    @AnotherDad

    After seeing a picture of the son, I had to find a picture of her husband. Tall, lanky fellow, yet still has a double chin. Probably slightly below average to most people, but not odd-looking like the son.

  150. @JerseyJeffersonian
    This was directed toward a comment by Hynotoad666. Don't know why it didn't take...

    That, among other incidents, convinced the Russians that the United States was "not agreement-capable", in other words complete liars, as the shallow assholes in charge decide to go back on agreements so often that it is reasonable to suppose that they never intended to honor them in the first place. This has lead to them believing that the US, as well as their compradors in their sphere, are contemptible. They are correct in this perception. Bad, bad mistake.

    But then, these are the same US "elites" who still believe that the actual size of the Russian economy is equivalent to that of one mid-sized US state. Well, no, fuckwits, this is a nation that has worked assiduously to, in as many ways possible, attain autarchy in all credible measures of national power, especially in the realm of the military. Geez, where did all of those hypersonic cruise missiles come from? And howzabout the missile and electronic countermeasures knowhow that took out attacks on their bases in Syria? And that "moribund" shipbuilding industry that keeps laying down new keels, and upgrading existing, still viable warships to state of the art? Oh, and they are actually rather glad about all of those "crippling" sanctions that provided them with all the reason they needed to become more independent in areas such as agriculture and technology. Stupidity on a level with the US having gifted the Red Chinese with advanced technologies, and placed our national well-being at their mercy while surrendering industry after industry to them, compromising our self-dependence, and eliminating employment for millions - millions - of US workers through corporate labor arbitrage games.

    This is a nation with whom we should be on proper, respectful terms. But no, some Jews bitter about something that may have happened more than 100 years ago in the long dead Russian Empire to their great great grandparents, and pissed that they got tossed out on their asses while trying to take over Russia and gain total control of their natural resources at the end of the Cold War, are doing all that they can to make this impossible. Spiteful wreckers.

    Replies: @Cortes, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Well, no, fuckwits, this is a nation that has worked assiduously to, in as many ways possible, attain autarchy in all credible measures of national power, especially in the realm of the military.

    This is because the goofs in DC miss the key point that the Russian defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems focused on defeating and killing the enemy.

    The US defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems that enrich their executives, DC insiders, and flag-level officers while creating a spider-web of job sites across the US that are useful cudgels against any legislators that speak out about cutting wasteful spending on MIC pork programs.

    As a result, Russia has a 10 year lead on the US in hypersonics. At the rate the US is going they will be lucky to field a vestigial hypersonic capability in 2024 or 2025. The Lockheed Martin HCSW, which was planned to be one of the US’ major hypersonic programs, was outright canceled several months ago.

    Russia also has the world’s premier integrated air defense system, which has proven highly effective against the now dated Tomahawk cruise missile.

    • Replies: @Father Coughlin
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Why do we care about the Russians again??

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon

  151. @Jack D
    @Sean


    Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden’s VP pick.
     
    Russia and China are not a good fit for each other - their natural position is that of competitors, not allies. They share borders and the Russians are naturally suspicious that the Chinese have their eyes on the underpopulated Russian Far East. Culturally they are like oil and water. Having two strong man dictators may make it easier to make a deal (just like Hitler was able to make a deal with Stalin) but making a deal and keeping it are two different things (as Stalin found out the hard way).

    OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. As a low trust society, any attempt to adhere to Western norms ends in chaos so Russia always reverts to strong man rule.

    Replies: @Sean, @YetAnotherAnon, @dfordoom, @Magic Dirt Resident

    “OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. “

    This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.

    Russia discovered in the 90s that “joining the West” meant in practice having all the State’s assets looted by Larry Summers’ cousins thrice removed, so that it was more like joining the West Bank.

    A catastrophic drop in living standards and life expectancy was accompanied by the concentration of enormous wealth in the hands of criminal oligarchs.

    It’s not surprising that patriotic Russians had second thoughts. What IS surprising is that Putin, chosen by the oligarchs as a front man, was able to turn against them and remain alive.

    • Agree: sayless, donut
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends. These crooks are even worse - they have the power of the state behind them now. Putin's own ill gotten wealth is estimated in the billions. Meanwhile the average Russian still has nothing. Russia has the potential to be one of the richest countries on earth. It's a not very crowded place with vast natural resources and plenty of human capital. But is is destined to be misruled.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Giancarlo M. Kumquat
    @YetAnotherAnon

    like a boss : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wxrTtBSrOE

  152. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    The Rwanda genocide was rather like the Great Terror in Revolutionary France. The old masters, the Tutsis, were invading with the help of foreign powers (Uganda), and the new ruling class went nuts and started murdering people.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Herzog, @Not Raul, @The Wild Geese Howard

    The downing of the President

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16472013

    had nothing, not in the slightest, to do with the actions of the incoming regime.

    Which was nice. And it was all the fault of the upstart ousted baddies. Who smelled and had no table manners.

  153. @Patrick Boyle
    @nebulafox

    The myth lives on. Jimmy Carter was widely hailed at the time as a nuclear engineer. That's preposterous. Carter had been an officer in a conventional submarine. He had had no background in the new nuclear subs whatsoever but he wanted to fill out his resume to prepare for his next possible promotion. So he took a night course in something like a general survey course for business men who wanted to learn some nuclear energy terms. So his one survey night class at a junior college got inflated by his campaign staff to "Nuclear Engineer".

    Replies: @JRB, @Hibernian, @Anonymous

    Carter knew Three Mile Island was a nothingburger but refused to say so publicly in order not to anger the anti-nuke activists in his party.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Anonymous


    Carter knew Three Mile Island was a nothingburger but refused to say so publicly in order not to anger the anti-nuke activists in his party.
     
    Reagan was the best of the three top candidates for anti-nukers. All were very much in favor of atomic power, but at least he would be less likely to subsidize it. Same with Ed Clark, who finished fourth. Barry Commoner, the only anti-nuker in the lot, finished fifth.



    http://statusmind.com/images/2014/10/Witty-Quotes-50684-statusmind.com.jpg
  154. @Digital Samizdat
    In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.

    Kamala Sutra. Horizontal Harris. Are we still allowed to use the word 'mistress' in our brave new world? Or is it passé?

    Replies: @Lot, @SMK, @ben tillman

    Like the Bourbon kings, Willie was amicably separated but not divorced from his wife.

    Kamala had the honorable position of Willie’s Chief Mistress (maîtresse-en-titre), not one of his side pieces (petites maîtresses).

    • Replies: @bruce county
    @Lot

    I'm certain Kamala could suck a golf ball though a garden hose or suck start my Harley.

  155. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    America has “deserved” better presidents than every one we’ve had since Eisenhower.
     
    The presidents before Eisenhower were even more destructive. Except, as always, the "do-nothings". I'll take a string of Fords or Coolidges over a "great" one any decade. There must be some high minimum amount of damage done, a "deductable" so to speak, to meet before historians label a president great.

    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Flip, @Rob McX

    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.

    Reagan signed the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty, which was the only highly significant effect of his presidency … and a disaster for the nation. (I guess the China trade was opened and boosted as well–another disaster.)

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    Reagan signed the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty, which was the only highly significant effect of his presidency … and a disaster for the nation.
     
    First, it was the Simpson-Mazzoli, not Reagan, bill. A cheap-labor Rockies Republican and a stab-'em-in-the-back Ohio River "workers' party" drone. It was a mistake for Reagan to sign it, but at least he hesitated. He also signed abortion liberalization in California (allowing the hospital committees who made the ultimate decision more leeway) and no-fault divorce, both of which he regretted. All of these were from listening to the wrong people. Like the ABA.

    And it wasn't an "amnesty". A true amnesty would have been a return home without sanctions. It was legal residence and eventual citizenship, a windfall for the recepients. We shoot ourselves in the foot by not calling it what it is.

    His fundamental mistake was assuming the bona fides of the other side. He was a Democrat for forty years. He should have known that party has never been honest since its inception.

    (I guess the China trade was opened and boosted as well–another disaster.)
     
    Nixon ended the embargo, not Reagan. Even Trump isn't talking about bringing that back. Someone should take this up, along with repeal of the 23rd Amendment.
    , @Mr McKenna
    @AnotherDad

    See also the explosive growth of the national debt under Reagan-Bush.

    It exploded again under W, and then the floodgates really opened.

    Fortunately, 'deficits don't matter' as one wag put it.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  156. @guest007
    @Bucky

    Everyone should go back and read the stories about the Harris campaign. Senator Harris hired family members, failed to control her staff, and did not know what she was doing. Before that Harris had never competed in a competitive race but was elected due to be selected by the establishment. Harris is ambitious but not driven enough to achieve her goals.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Fluesterwitz

    Harris is ambitious but not driven smart enough to achieve her goals.

  157. @eD
    @MLK

    John Michael Greer wrote once that the Democrats and Republicans have a long standing agreement to switch the White House back and forth between the two parties on every eight years. That would explain why the presidential nominees on the "wrong" years since the Cold War ended, the ones that are nominated to throw the election (Dole, Gore, Kerry, McCain, Romney, H. Clinton, Biden) were either undermined by their own parties, exactly the wrong candidate for that year, or otherwise deeply flawed. Political scientist Walter Karp had the same theory (https://www.amazon.com/Indispensable-Enemies-Politics-Misrule-America/dp/1879957132), it may have been where Greer picked it up.

    This election would follow the pattern, except the Donks are really overdoing it, and it seems that neither major party nominee are supposed to win the election.

    Replies: @MLK

    Incumbent presidents have built-in advantages. The opposite holds for either party obtaining a third-term in a row.

    H.W. Bush won in 1988 because Peace and Prosperity.

    Democrats had high hopes when he took office that Obama would be their Reagan, initiating a Democrat-era well beyond his eight years. The problem was Obama and the Democrats didn’t deliver and he only won a second term by morphing from a unifying candidate and president to purveyor of nasty identity politics.

    No one seemed to notice, or perhaps quickly forgot, that it was evident as early as 2014 that Hillary intended to run on the Democrat equivalent of H.W. Bush’s kindler and gentler thingie. Meaning she would be presented as more to the center, particularly on foreign policy, which meant loud and proud NeoCon.

    The old colostomy bag was forced to abandon running on the H.W. Bush template, first by Sanders and then Trump. Remember, her campaign ended up with the battle of the sexes horseshoe and some version of what Johnson used against Goldwater.

    This is merely one example of how having a captive, Allied Media, can prove a weakness rather than a strength. Democrats thought it was more than enough that the media fawned over figurehead Obama as if he was the second coming.

  158. @Muggles
    @Bucky

    Odd but unmentioned HBD fact.

    Both Harris and Rice are biracial. Just like Obama. Yet the MSM always refers to them as black (or now, Black.) Obama was the "first biracial president" (though some argue otherwise) not the first "black/Black" president.

    It's like the white (or White) half of these people has been totally erased from reality.

    Kinda makes you think...

    Replies: @Mario Partisan, @Flip

    Well, to be fair I don’t see white southerners claiming their mostly black distant cousins given the “one drop rule.”

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @Flip

    >>Well, to be fair I don’t see white southerners claiming their mostly black distant cousins given the “one drop rule.”<<

    The "one drop rule" mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn't had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.

    What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn't been my experience (raised in north. lived in south for many decades.)

    An old college girlfriend with whom I was briefly recently in contact was somewhat excited about discovering a black ancestor in her DNA test. She was and is a liberal politically.

    My main original point was not about individual attitudes but rather that the MSM now eagerly assigns only "Black" to prominent politicians who also identify that way. Which is inaccurate. If they are biracial (half/half) that should be the description. Most American blacks have some non African DNA, and you can tell. Very obvious if you've ever been to black Africa.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

  159. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    America has “deserved” better presidents than every one we’ve had since Eisenhower.
     
    The presidents before Eisenhower were even more destructive. Except, as always, the "do-nothings". I'll take a string of Fords or Coolidges over a "great" one any decade. There must be some high minimum amount of damage done, a "deductable" so to speak, to meet before historians label a president great.

    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Flip, @Rob McX

    I didn’t vote for him, but Clinton was actually reasonably moderate and capable. Part of that may have been Gingrich pushing him right.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Flip


    I didn’t vote for him, but Clinton was actually reasonably moderate and capable. Part of that may have been Gingrich pushing him right.
     
    All of it was from Gingrich-- and the GOP voters and majority he marshalled-- pushing him right. The first two years were wall-to-wall Billary.

    Was Clinton the first Democrat ever to lose the House, and keep it lost?
  160. @Kyle
    OT; I don’t know what other things you guys are following, but Trump is waging war on the polls. He just signed a few executive orders. Deferring payroll tax from August 1st until January 1st, pausing student loan interest, extending the 600 a week federal unemployment benefit. He’s sprinting to the finish line. I don’t agree with the 600 a week federal unemployment, that’s insane. And I’m not sure how deferring payroll tax will affect me, I might be for it but I’d have to look into it. When it comes to student loans I think those little cockroaches should should pay back all their interest. But it isn’t their fault that schools are closed, so I can see pausing interest for the foreseeable futures. I just don’t understand why they aren’t all getting jobs. There are plenty of jobs right now... they should go pick up a shovel.
    Im feeling generally cautious yet optimistic. In terms of the election trump is sprinting towards the finish line.

    Replies: @Flip, @Jim Don Bob

    This is why gold is now $2000. I expect bonds and the dollar to drop some.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Flip

    I've always bought physical gold , no ETFs thank you , and there's talk about $3000 but I'm not convinced and while I don't mind missing out on a profit I hate to take a loss . I think the rise in gold is related to the possibility of Biden winning the election . If Trump wins I expect gold to drop back to the low teens at least .

    Replies: @Muggles

  161. Al Sharpton just needs to transition–all the Democrats’ boxes checked, Allie would be a mortal lock.

    • Replies: @anon
    @AnotherDad

    Al Sharpton just needs to transition–all the Democrats’ boxes checked, Allie would be a mortal lock.

    But wait, how could he be VP and also act in the next Matrix movie at the same time?

  162. @Not Only Wrathful
    @John Foster

    What could the US have done?

    Immediately invaded a land-locked country in deepest Africa that nobody had heard of, and suddenly control all ground at the village level to keep squads of machete wielding lunatics apart?

    Who was good and who was bad and how could an American tell the difference so as to know which one to shoot?

    Seems like Rice at least had the sense of scale and humility to accept when something couldn't be done.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Seems like Rice at least had the sense of scale and humility to accept when something couldn’t be done.

    Right, and that would have been the end of it until, for some unknown reason, BJC decide to apologize for Rwanda.

  163. @Kyle
    OT; I don’t know what other things you guys are following, but Trump is waging war on the polls. He just signed a few executive orders. Deferring payroll tax from August 1st until January 1st, pausing student loan interest, extending the 600 a week federal unemployment benefit. He’s sprinting to the finish line. I don’t agree with the 600 a week federal unemployment, that’s insane. And I’m not sure how deferring payroll tax will affect me, I might be for it but I’d have to look into it. When it comes to student loans I think those little cockroaches should should pay back all their interest. But it isn’t their fault that schools are closed, so I can see pausing interest for the foreseeable futures. I just don’t understand why they aren’t all getting jobs. There are plenty of jobs right now... they should go pick up a shovel.
    Im feeling generally cautious yet optimistic. In terms of the election trump is sprinting towards the finish line.

    Replies: @Flip, @Jim Don Bob

    Agree that this is great politics on DJT’s part. Even if his orders border on the illegal, Democrats will look like Scrooge when they go to court to overturn them.

    • Agree: Charon
    • Replies: @epebble
    @Jim Don Bob

    They will be dumb to go to court over this (even if it can be overturned). It is politically more beneficial for them to let it stand and use it as a precedent to reprogram the appropriated money any way they feel like when a Democratic president gets elected. If they are really smart, they should get it blessed by D.C. Circuit court (Judge Rao) so that precedent is set in concrete. If anything, it is Republicans who should feel uncomfortable with this; but that ship has sailed.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

  164. @J.Ross
    At the same time that white people are oppressive, they fail to be impressive.

    https://twitter.com/IrishTimesLife/status/1290895315847901184

    First response on 4chan: "she was confused by the lack of public [email protected]%!ting." And I would add, catastrophic public transport crashes.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @3g4me, @JohnnyWalker123

    More delusional pap from the Irish Times which as usual puts the New York Times to shame!

    • Agree: JMcG
  165. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    The Rwanda genocide was rather like the Great Terror in Revolutionary France. The old masters, the Tutsis, were invading with the help of foreign powers (Uganda), and the new ruling class went nuts and started murdering people.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Herzog, @Not Raul, @The Wild Geese Howard

    If I remember things correctly from reading Gérard Prunier’s Africa’s World War One some years ago, the Hutus had already commenced killing the Tutsis on a large scale when the Kagame Tutsis moved in from, and with the help of, Uganda (where their parent generation had fled a generation before, from an earlier round of Rwandan ethnic mass murder) to topple the Hutu government and stop the killing of their Tutsi co-ethnics.

    It was strictly in that order, Prunier emphatically states: According to him, the Kagame troops deliberately moved in slower than they could have so as to give the Hutu génocidaires sufficient time to kill off the local Tutsi elite, thereby ridding them of prospective Tutsi rivals after the overthrow of Hutu rule.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Herzog

    tl:dr. Chicago writ large.

    , @Reg Cæsar
    @Herzog

    Don't forget the Tutsi massacre of Hutus in Burundi in 1972. At 250,000 and 22 years earlier (i.e., smaller populations), it may be comparable to the Rwanda one proportionally.

    I knew a Rwandan Hutu man and a Burundian (mostly Tutsi) woman in the '90s. We all got along, but an American BFF of hers told me that he had told her once, "We should have killed all of you!"

    Whether that was in a fit of anger or his default position I never found out. But keep in mind there are real people behind those big African smiles.

    The Burundian lady is a nun now, by the way.

    Replies: @Herzog

  166. @AnotherDad
    Al Sharpton just needs to transition--all the Democrats' boxes checked, Allie would be a mortal lock.

    Replies: @anon

    Al Sharpton just needs to transition–all the Democrats’ boxes checked, Allie would be a mortal lock.

    But wait, how could he be VP and also act in the next Matrix movie at the same time?

  167. @Mishima Zaibatsu
    Off-topic. New in the chronicles of "genetics have nothing to do with the higher rate of black etc people dying, it is all white racism's fault".

    ‘The virus piggybacked on racism’: why did Covid-19 hit BAME families so hard?
    Chaturvedi is determined to quash one misconception. “Some suggest that genes can account for the excess risk of Covid-19 in BAME groups, and I just want to say that’s not the case. Genetic heterogeneity is far greater within than between populations. This is a story about social inequality, not biology.”
     
    This woman is a professor of clinical epidemiology at University College London...

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/08/the-virus-piggybacked-on-racism-why-did-covid-19-hit-bame-families-so-hard

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Mr McKenna, @Gabe Ruth

    Genetic heterogeneity is far greater within than between populations.

    Professional race deniers must have a shortcut key for that sentence.

  168. @Reg Cæsar
    @AnotherDad


    America has “deserved” better presidents than every one we’ve had since Eisenhower.
     
    The presidents before Eisenhower were even more destructive. Except, as always, the "do-nothings". I'll take a string of Fords or Coolidges over a "great" one any decade. There must be some high minimum amount of damage done, a "deductable" so to speak, to meet before historians label a president great.

    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.

    Replies: @AnotherDad, @Flip, @Rob McX

    Being a do-nothing was OK a hundred years ago, but it’s not good enough nowadays. A president needs to do something to reverse the actions of all his “great” predecessors.

  169. @Jane Plain
    @AnotherDad

    100%.

    Every president since Ike has been a disaster.

    Replies: @Kronos, @Philip Owen

    Nixon was good while he lasted.

  170. @Mr. Grey
    @Frank G

    At first I thought you were talking about Harris, who only conveniently got married before her Senate run. The only other relationship of hers that I've been able to find is her latching on to the married SF politician Willie Brown, who made all the right connections for her.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Kamala’s husband Douglas Emhoff seems pretty normal. He was a successful business lawyer with an ex-wife and two kids.

  171. @Mr. Anon
    @John Foster

    I have heard it said that the genocide narrative is false - that it was really a civil war with an armed incursion by Tutsi based in Uganda, which the west labeled a genocide by the Hutu against the Tutsi because the West favored the Tutsi. I haven't looked into it in any detail, so I can't vouch for that view. And honestly, I don't really care. America certainly doesn't need to get mixed up in Africa (although given that the Pentagon now has an "Africom", I expect that we will). If Rice kept us out of that business, then good for her.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mario Partisan, @workforlivn

    The Rwandan genocide, the only genocide ever in which the mass murder of the victims is immediately followed by the victims’ immediate taking of political power. “The Hutu killed so many Tutsis in a one-sided fashion that the Tutsis won!” Imagine that.

    And to think that those who question this story are labeled “deniers” and doing so is illegal in Rwanda. Not suspicious at all.

    https://www.globalresearch.ca/rwanda-the-enduring-lies-a-project-censored-interview-with-professor-ed-herman/5502707

  172. anon[305] • Disclaimer says:

    The Libyan no-fly zone was based on the no-fly zone over Iraq, put in place at the end of Poppy Bush’s Gulf War I and maintained by Billy Jeff Clinton. It worked sooooo well that blindly repeating it seemed legit to the 0Bama regime, and that worked sooooo well that Hillary! demanded one over Syria during the 2016 Presidential campaign…which would have worked sooooo well until the first Russian aircraft was shot down. Then things would have gotten very, very interesting.

    I try to explain to Zoomers how close we came to a war in the Middle East vs. the Russians and they can’t seem to grasp it. Because Orange Man Bad or something.

    “No fly” zones sort of work when a country has 100% air supremacy over a very weak adversary and even then it’s a short-term thing at best. The “no fly” fetish just shows how cargo-cultish US leadership has become.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @anon

    As I recall, the Turks were shooting down Russian airplanes with no reaction from Moscow.

    Replies: @Cortes

  173. @Mishima Zaibatsu
    Off-topic. New in the chronicles of "genetics have nothing to do with the higher rate of black etc people dying, it is all white racism's fault".

    ‘The virus piggybacked on racism’: why did Covid-19 hit BAME families so hard?
    Chaturvedi is determined to quash one misconception. “Some suggest that genes can account for the excess risk of Covid-19 in BAME groups, and I just want to say that’s not the case. Genetic heterogeneity is far greater within than between populations. This is a story about social inequality, not biology.”
     
    This woman is a professor of clinical epidemiology at University College London...

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/08/the-virus-piggybacked-on-racism-why-did-covid-19-hit-bame-families-so-hard

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Mr McKenna, @Gabe Ruth

    Before too long, ‘science’ will mean ‘everything which is not science’ and vice versa.

  174. @Flip
    @Reg Cæsar

    I didn't vote for him, but Clinton was actually reasonably moderate and capable. Part of that may have been Gingrich pushing him right.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    I didn’t vote for him, but Clinton was actually reasonably moderate and capable. Part of that may have been Gingrich pushing him right.

    All of it was from Gingrich– and the GOP voters and majority he marshalled– pushing him right. The first two years were wall-to-wall Billary.

    Was Clinton the first Democrat ever to lose the House, and keep it lost?

  175. @Flip
    @Muggles

    Well, to be fair I don't see white southerners claiming their mostly black distant cousins given the "one drop rule."

    Replies: @Muggles

    >>Well, to be fair I don’t see white southerners claiming their mostly black distant cousins given the “one drop rule.”<<

    The "one drop rule" mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn't had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.

    What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn't been my experience (raised in north. lived in south for many decades.)

    An old college girlfriend with whom I was briefly recently in contact was somewhat excited about discovering a black ancestor in her DNA test. She was and is a liberal politically.

    My main original point was not about individual attitudes but rather that the MSM now eagerly assigns only "Black" to prominent politicians who also identify that way. Which is inaccurate. If they are biracial (half/half) that should be the description. Most American blacks have some non African DNA, and you can tell. Very obvious if you've ever been to black Africa.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Muggles


    The "one drop rule" mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn't had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.
     
    It was opposed by none other than George Tillman, older brother to Pitchfork Ben, in the South Carolina legislature. Because, he said, none of the men in the room could have passed it.

    What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn't been my experience...
     
    On the contrary, Southerners are, and have always been, the only whites in America who enjoy the company of blacks. (On their own terms, of course.) That's been the problem all along.


    “In the South, the white man doesn’t care how close you get, as long as you don’t get too high. In the North, he doesn’t care how high you get, as long as you don’t get too close.”

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  176. @Christopher Chantrill
    If we assume that former President Obama is still the Mr. Big in the Democratic power structure, then I'd say that Susan Rice has the inside track.

    But will she let Obama run her when she becomes Ms. Big?

    Replies: @Voltarde

    I thought that Harris was a shoo-in for VP, but the comment by “Scott in PA” about Deval Patrick has raised some doubts. If Obama is still Mr. Big, it could very well be Patrick for VP, as I think Patrick is Obama’s favorite.

    Adding to this speculation is the question: What does Mrs. Big in the Democratic Party have to say about the VP choice? Michelle Obama seems to have eclipsed her husband. She has passed on the VP slot, but given her now elevated status (and 100% blackness), she may prefer not to share the adulation that she now receives with another female near-black competitor. Y-negative genotypes are prickly about these social status things! That should make Deval Patrick’s star rise.

    Trump, under no circumstances, wins the 2020 election as candidate Trump 1.0. Sadly, in the event of an unexpected win, it will be Javanka all the way down, especially during a lame-duck term. There may even be an attempt to secure the 2024 nomination for Ivanka–a full-blown cult of personality. That’s my cynical take, especially seeing how Javanka and the Axis of Weevils in “Trump’s” administration are serving up swamp creatures in the senate primaries.

    I hope I am wrong.

  177. @AnotherDad
    @Reg Cæsar


    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.
     
    Reagan signed the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty, which was the only highly significant effect of his presidency ... and a disaster for the nation. (I guess the China trade was opened and boosted as well--another disaster.)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr McKenna

    Reagan signed the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty, which was the only highly significant effect of his presidency … and a disaster for the nation.

    First, it was the Simpson-Mazzoli, not Reagan, bill. A cheap-labor Rockies Republican and a stab-’em-in-the-back Ohio River “workers’ party” drone. It was a mistake for Reagan to sign it, but at least he hesitated. He also signed abortion liberalization in California (allowing the hospital committees who made the ultimate decision more leeway) and no-fault divorce, both of which he regretted. All of these were from listening to the wrong people. Like the ABA.

    And it wasn’t an “amnesty”. A true amnesty would have been a return home without sanctions. It was legal residence and eventual citizenship, a windfall for the recepients. We shoot ourselves in the foot by not calling it what it is.

    His fundamental mistake was assuming the bona fides of the other side. He was a Democrat for forty years. He should have known that party has never been honest since its inception.

    (I guess the China trade was opened and boosted as well–another disaster.)

    Nixon ended the embargo, not Reagan. Even Trump isn’t talking about bringing that back. Someone should take this up, along with repeal of the 23rd Amendment.

  178. @Bucky
    Rice is preferable to Harris, though she is not really ideal.

    Harris has this glibness to her, combined with a lack of intelligence or thoughtfulness, that I find pretty unlikeable.

    Rice appears more intelligent and thoughtful. It would be interesting to see what lessons she learned from Libya. She also appears to actually believe the Russia conspiracy stuff.

    Kamala Harris is that bad that Rice, however flawed, is preferable.

    Replies: @guest007, @Not Only Wrathful, @Muggles, @Bernard

    I myself would prefer the less outwardly competent of the two, which is Harris. Rice is more eloquent and has more stature, which would be of greater value to the MSM, who will deify either. Harris is a harder sell.

  179. @Muggles
    @Flip

    >>Well, to be fair I don’t see white southerners claiming their mostly black distant cousins given the “one drop rule.”<<

    The "one drop rule" mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn't had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.

    What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn't been my experience (raised in north. lived in south for many decades.)

    An old college girlfriend with whom I was briefly recently in contact was somewhat excited about discovering a black ancestor in her DNA test. She was and is a liberal politically.

    My main original point was not about individual attitudes but rather that the MSM now eagerly assigns only "Black" to prominent politicians who also identify that way. Which is inaccurate. If they are biracial (half/half) that should be the description. Most American blacks have some non African DNA, and you can tell. Very obvious if you've ever been to black Africa.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    The “one drop rule” mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn’t had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.

    It was opposed by none other than George Tillman, older brother to Pitchfork Ben, in the South Carolina legislature. Because, he said, none of the men in the room could have passed it.

    What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn’t been my experience…

    On the contrary, Southerners are, and have always been, the only whites in America who enjoy the company of blacks. (On their own terms, of course.) That’s been the problem all along.

    “In the South, the white man doesn’t care how close you get, as long as you don’t get too high. In the North, he doesn’t care how high you get, as long as you don’t get too close.”

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve lived most of my life in the north, but I grew up mostly in the south.

    Interesting thing. I’ve had a number of black folks tell me they feel more comfortable around me because of my southern heritage. A lot of the “soul food” was just southern food. There have been times when I was the only white guy in restaurants in black neighborhoods. People found it fascinating to see a white guy enjoying “black” food.

    One of my black friends said he found southerners more honest about race matters. He said with southerners you knew what the rules were, but with northerners you didn’t.

    One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.

    Replies: @Hibernian

  180. In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.

    LOL, Steve, you are awesome…

  181. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    Hoover “the most accomplished.” Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    @Ron Mexico


    Hoover “the most accomplished.” Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?
     
    Outside of public office. Read up on his "social" work. Jimmy Carter has nothing on Hoover.


    The Great Humanitarian
    Herbert Hoover's Food Relief Efforts


    Note that this site is at Cornell College in his native Iowa, not that Johnny-come-lately out in Ithaca. The founders were cousins.

    There's also this: https://www.hoover.org/about/missionhistory

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @MEH 0910

    , @J.Ross
    @Ron Mexico

    Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life

    This is objectively true and your attack misses a key criterion. Hoover was an orphan who came from less than what people usually mean when they say they came from nothing. He became a respected engineer and then created a brilliant plan to identify and repatriate displaced persons following WWI. Scandinavians used to call a useful, brilliant person a "Hoover."

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

  182. @Sean
    No, Libya is exactly the sort of small powerless country the US should be able to kick around, and the Middle East is no longer important anyway. The danger with Rice is she considers Russia to be, as she recently put it, "our arch-adversary". In power, for she would in effect be being appointed president for three years at least, Rice will keep hammering away at the Russians supporting the Republicans. The attitude to Russia in foreign policy would be hostile.

    America simply has to bring Russia on board a Western grand alliance. Annoying though the Russians are, we need them. China is not going to attack Russia like Hitler did; we need to inveigle them away from China. A professional diplomat is going to find it easy to sidestep the real emergency to do an end run into a new cold war with Russia. While there may be a cold war with China too, the the West simply couldn't have been buried by the USSR, so the stakes were actually very low, and the most fateful phase of of the confrontation between the US and USSR was anti communist Nixon bringing China into the World Bank system where it got capital for a economic blast off. In a nutshell, Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden's VP pick.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Mr McKenna

    America simply has to bring Russia on board a Western grand alliance.

    ATM, the closest thing to a “Grand Western Alliance” is the Euro-American War on Whites.

    Russia is never, ever going to sign on to a plan like that. Which, incidentally, is why the US ‘Establishment’ is at war with Russia nowadays.

    • Agree: Father Coughlin, sayless
    • Replies: @Stan
    @Mr McKenna

    Sean is an Israel shill. Who is he referring to when he says "we".

  183. @IHTG

    LINKBOOKMARKHarris is half Tamil and her Stanford economics professor father is from the Malcolm Gladwellish mulatto middle-class of Jamaica. (Harris is also half-Jamaican.)
     
    ? Redundancy?

    Replies: @Cato

    Sugar was a highly profitable crop in the 17th and 18th centuries; tobacco, not nearly as profitable. The Caribbean paid the highest prices, for the highest quality slaves. The most desired slaves came from the Gold Coast, present-day Ghana, and most of these went to Jamaica and Barbados. Slaves were driven hard in the Caribbean, and mortality was much higher there than in the North American colonies; the slaves that survived to reproduce, from this superior stock, were the best of the best. Hence the superiority of Jamaicans over North American blacks.

  184. @Herzog
    @Steve Sailer

    If I remember things correctly from reading Gérard Prunier's Africa's World War One some years ago, the Hutus had already commenced killing the Tutsis on a large scale when the Kagame Tutsis moved in from, and with the help of, Uganda (where their parent generation had fled a generation before, from an earlier round of Rwandan ethnic mass murder) to topple the Hutu government and stop the killing of their Tutsi co-ethnics.

    It was strictly in that order, Prunier emphatically states: According to him, the Kagame troops deliberately moved in slower than they could have so as to give the Hutu génocidaires sufficient time to kill off the local Tutsi elite, thereby ridding them of prospective Tutsi rivals after the overthrow of Hutu rule.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Reg Cæsar

    tl:dr. Chicago writ large.

  185. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    The Rwanda genocide was rather like the Great Terror in Revolutionary France. The old masters, the Tutsis, were invading with the help of foreign powers (Uganda), and the new ruling class went nuts and started murdering people.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Herzog, @Not Raul, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Did the Tutsis & Uganda have a falling out in recent years?

  186. @Reg Cæsar
    @Muggles


    The "one drop rule" mainly applied in Louisiana, and was decades ago overturned and removed. It hasn't had any relevance in our lifetime, legally.
     
    It was opposed by none other than George Tillman, older brother to Pitchfork Ben, in the South Carolina legislature. Because, he said, none of the men in the room could have passed it.

    What makes you think southerners are any more racist than northerners? That hasn't been my experience...
     
    On the contrary, Southerners are, and have always been, the only whites in America who enjoy the company of blacks. (On their own terms, of course.) That's been the problem all along.


    “In the South, the white man doesn’t care how close you get, as long as you don’t get too high. In the North, he doesn’t care how high you get, as long as you don’t get too close.”

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    I’ve lived most of my life in the north, but I grew up mostly in the south.

    Interesting thing. I’ve had a number of black folks tell me they feel more comfortable around me because of my southern heritage. A lot of the “soul food” was just southern food. There have been times when I was the only white guy in restaurants in black neighborhoods. People found it fascinating to see a white guy enjoying “black” food.

    One of my black friends said he found southerners more honest about race matters. He said with southerners you knew what the rules were, but with northerners you didn’t.

    One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @Paleo Liberal


    One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.
     
    Do you have a bridge for sale?

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

  187. @Paleo Liberal
    @Reg Cæsar

    I’ve lived most of my life in the north, but I grew up mostly in the south.

    Interesting thing. I’ve had a number of black folks tell me they feel more comfortable around me because of my southern heritage. A lot of the “soul food” was just southern food. There have been times when I was the only white guy in restaurants in black neighborhoods. People found it fascinating to see a white guy enjoying “black” food.

    One of my black friends said he found southerners more honest about race matters. He said with southerners you knew what the rules were, but with northerners you didn’t.

    One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.

    Replies: @Hibernian

    One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.

    Do you have a bridge for sale?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    @Hibernian

    There’s an offer pending, but if you can bid higher we’ll see what we can do.


    Brooklyn has always been like that. Some scholars think the Indians who supposedly sold Manhattan to the Dutch were really Canarsie Indians visiting from Brooklyn. Which explains why the Indians living in Manhattan didn’t leave after the “sale”. The Dutch built a wooden wall on the site of the present day Wall Street, and the Indians tore down the wall the next winter to use as firewood. A lesson in there somewhere.

  188. @adreadline

    Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son
     
    https://www.ac2news.com/wp-content/uploads/Screen-Shot-2018-05-30-at-4.38.14-PM-442x565.png

    https://youtu.be/HagVnWAeGcM?t=95

    Replies: @R.G. Camara, @RadicalCenter

    Nicely done. Even more so, especially with the smile, Harris’s kid looks like Canadian actor Fred Ewanuick, who starred in Corner Gas for six seasons from 2004-2009:

  189. @Hibernian
    @Paleo Liberal


    One time when I lived in an Italian area in Brooklyn I had a black friend of mine visit. I told him to arrange the visit so he would leave before sunset. He was not at all angry at me. I was being honest about it.
     
    Do you have a bridge for sale?

    Replies: @Paleo Liberal

    There’s an offer pending, but if you can bid higher we’ll see what we can do.

    Brooklyn has always been like that. Some scholars think the Indians who supposedly sold Manhattan to the Dutch were really Canarsie Indians visiting from Brooklyn. Which explains why the Indians living in Manhattan didn’t leave after the “sale”. The Dutch built a wooden wall on the site of the present day Wall Street, and the Indians tore down the wall the next winter to use as firewood. A lesson in there somewhere.

  190. @Steve Sailer
    @Mr. Anon

    The Rwanda genocide was rather like the Great Terror in Revolutionary France. The old masters, the Tutsis, were invading with the help of foreign powers (Uganda), and the new ruling class went nuts and started murdering people.

    Replies: @Cortes, @Herzog, @Not Raul, @The Wild Geese Howard

    Man, with all this Rwanda talk I felt like we needed some Hutu Power Radio up in this piece:

  191. Here is my prediction.

    Among the “short list”, Ms. Harris is my last choice, but I think she will be picked.

    Why?

    When Obama got the nomination, some were worried he would be a left wing radical. By choosing the banks’ best buddy Biden as his VP. He signaled that the banks would be treated very well. And they were.

    Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.

    • Replies: @Bucky
    @Paleo Liberal

    By that metric, Demings is the best

    , @Colin Wright
    @Paleo Liberal

    'Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.'

    Harris wasn't exactly popular with the San Francisco police. She refused to seek the death penalty in a particularly egregious cop-killing.

  192. @Ron Mexico
    @nebulafox

    Hoover "the most accomplished." Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross

    Hoover “the most accomplished.” Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?

    Outside of public office. Read up on his “social” work. Jimmy Carter has nothing on Hoover.

    The Great Humanitarian
    Herbert Hoover’s Food Relief Efforts

    Note that this site is at Cornell College in his native Iowa, not that Johnny-come-lately out in Ithaca. The founders were cousins.

    There’s also this: https://www.hoover.org/about/missionhistory

    • Agree: MEH 0910
    • Replies: @Inquiring Mind
    @Reg Cæsar

    Herbert Hoover was instrumental in rolling back post WW-II plans developed by the Roosevelt administration that would have resulted in mass starvation in Germany. This puts the lie to the idea that he was an incompetent bumbler and Franklin Roosevelt was a savior of humanity.

    When I was in 6th grade Indoctrination Class, our teacher told us there was a policy of deindustrialization called the Morgenthau Plan that would have resulted in mass starvation of the people of Germany in the aftermath of WW-II. We were further told that fortunately this plan was not put in place, rather, the Marshal Plan of food aid and reconstruction was instituted instead.

    I was safely indoctrinated until Curtis Yarvin, back when he commented freely as Mencius Moldbug, opined that any serious plan to combat Climate Change, if you believed what the 12-years-before-the-world-ends alarmists are telling us, would require rolling back industrial production by 80%. He further explained that such a rollback was actually tried in the form of the Morgenthau Plan, which by 1947 was on the brink of inflicting mass death on German civilians as a result of starvation.

    The Morgenthau Plan was actually implemented? Teacher told me it never was! Seeking corroboration of Moldbug's outrageous claim, I turned to Wikipedia, our most trusted source of historical and current information, and there it was, German civilians being restricted to below 1000 (kilo)calories/day, with Herbert Hoover, in the irony of ironies, speaking Truth to Power to the holdovers of the Roosevelt Era for what they were doing.

    For all of the claims and counterclaims of the Holocaust, is it fair to say that the primary means by which death was inflicted on its victims was by engaging them in slave labor and feeding them just enough that they would slowly starve to death or succumb to disease in a weakened state? It is the cornerstone of Holocaust Denial that Zyklon B never happened and that people "just happened" to die from privation under wartime camp conditions, but weren't Japanese generals hanged for "simply" inflicting similar slow starvation on their prisoners? Wasn't the horror of the Allied armies liberating the camps not that they found mass graves or large number of bodies, but rather, that they saw living human skeletons?

    Perhaps it would be fitting that for the German people to have been complicit in murdering millions, slowly and horribly by feeding them starvation rations that this fate would be visited upon them in return? But that was never the Narrative. The leaders of the Shining City Upon a Hill would never admit to that. Mencius Moldbug took a dump in the punch bowl of our collective self image of Who We Are, and the Wikipedia article underwent a substantial reedit to downplay the degree of calorie restriction along with the role of Herbert Hoover in yelling Stop.

    Does anyone out there have family stories regarding conditions in 1947 Germany? I know someone whose family was sending food aid to relatives in Germany in that time frame, but the people who were direct witnesses to this are rapidly passing on. I didn't know then what Moldbug told me when I still had access to such people.

    That said, Herbert Hoover was a great man, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

    Replies: @Jack D, @anon, @bruce county

    , @MEH 0910
    @Reg Cæsar

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_Hoover#World_War_I_and_aftermath

  193. @Anonymous
    @Patrick Boyle

    Carter knew Three Mile Island was a nothingburger but refused to say so publicly in order not to anger the anti-nuke activists in his party.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Carter knew Three Mile Island was a nothingburger but refused to say so publicly in order not to anger the anti-nuke activists in his party.

    Reagan was the best of the three top candidates for anti-nukers. All were very much in favor of atomic power, but at least he would be less likely to subsidize it. Same with Ed Clark, who finished fourth. Barry Commoner, the only anti-nuker in the lot, finished fifth.

  194. @dearieme
    @nebulafox

    Herbert Hoover was ... probably the most accomplished [man] who ever inhabited the White House

    Hurray, somebody agrees with me! Isn't the web wonderful?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Captain Tripps

    Coolidge is underrated.

  195. (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).

    I don’t think so – but the hair has a slight kink.

    He has an unstable look. I think Fryer did a study on life outcomes for biracial kids & found mostly predictable results. They scored midway between whites & blacks on intellect, but there was one interesting outlier: recklessness. They were more reckless than either whites or blacks. Interesting, no?

    • Replies: @Escher
    @Jane Plain

    Was it to rebel against the more functional part of their ancestry?

  196. @Hapalong Cassidy
    If a Trump defeat is a foregone conclusion, then maybe Rice is the least harmful choice. Because of her past, a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions than would Harris. And because of her white goy husband and especially her right-wing son, maybe there’s a chance she doesn’t hate white people as much as most black Dem leaders (or most Dems in general).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Jane Plain, @ben tillman

    a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions

    By whom?

  197. @Herzog
    @Steve Sailer

    If I remember things correctly from reading Gérard Prunier's Africa's World War One some years ago, the Hutus had already commenced killing the Tutsis on a large scale when the Kagame Tutsis moved in from, and with the help of, Uganda (where their parent generation had fled a generation before, from an earlier round of Rwandan ethnic mass murder) to topple the Hutu government and stop the killing of their Tutsi co-ethnics.

    It was strictly in that order, Prunier emphatically states: According to him, the Kagame troops deliberately moved in slower than they could have so as to give the Hutu génocidaires sufficient time to kill off the local Tutsi elite, thereby ridding them of prospective Tutsi rivals after the overthrow of Hutu rule.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Reg Cæsar

    Don’t forget the Tutsi massacre of Hutus in Burundi in 1972. At 250,000 and 22 years earlier (i.e., smaller populations), it may be comparable to the Rwanda one proportionally.

    I knew a Rwandan Hutu man and a Burundian (mostly Tutsi) woman in the ’90s. We all got along, but an American BFF of hers told me that he had told her once, “We should have killed all of you!”

    Whether that was in a fit of anger or his default position I never found out. But keep in mind there are real people behind those big African smiles.

    The Burundian lady is a nun now, by the way.

    • Replies: @Herzog
    @Reg Cæsar

    Thanks for the reminder. I was vaguely aware that there had been several back-and-forth rounds of mass killings between H and T, but wasn't aware specifically of the 1972 "events."

    Also, Burundi has tended to be obscured by Rwanda in the Western consciousness (and perhaps in the non-Western one as well), but of course it has a history --- often a bloody history --- of its own. I just can't quite muster the energy to keep track of the details, having my day job and all that.

    When I briefly visited Rwanda about a dozen years ago, I was stunned by its natural beauty. And yes, I'm well aware that I'm not the first to say so. What was more of a surprise was that the landscapes began to change, to become Rwandan effectively, already in southern Uganda, perhaps forty miles before the actual border. And as landscapes are to a considerable extent man-made, likely there is also ethnic continuity between southern Uganda and Rwanda. Which would in turn help explain Ugandan support for the Kagame Tutsis, all the more so because Museveni of Uganda is from his country's south himself.

  198. A chin job, a new hairstyle, and weight loss does wonders.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @Jane Plain

    @199 Jane Plain: Add in a nose job, skin whitening cream, massive hair relaxer, etc. Rice, like most black women, wants to be black . . ish. They all rant about their sainted African ancestors, but they want to look like quadroons.

  199. @syonredux

    Rice has a white husband and her Trump-supporting son, the president of the Stanford Young Republicans, is pale (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).
     
    In terms of facial morphology, I think that her daughter is slightly more SSA looking than the son.

    https://fox40jackson.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/103736/susan-rice-on-her-trump-supporting-son-i-love-him-dearly.jpg


    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/10/08/14/19440860-7550115-image-m-20_1570541079591.jpg

    Replies: @anon, @Father Coughlin, @AnotherDad, @Je Suis Omar Mateen

    They are all quite disfortunate looking.

  200. @Paleo Liberal
    Here is my prediction.

    Among the “short list”, Ms. Harris is my last choice, but I think she will be picked.

    Why?

    When Obama got the nomination, some were worried he would be a left wing radical. By choosing the banks’ best buddy Biden as his VP. He signaled that the banks would be treated very well. And they were.

    Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.

    Replies: @Bucky, @Colin Wright

    By that metric, Demings is the best

  201. @Jim Don Bob
    @Kyle

    Agree that this is great politics on DJT's part. Even if his orders border on the illegal, Democrats will look like Scrooge when they go to court to overturn them.

    Replies: @epebble

    They will be dumb to go to court over this (even if it can be overturned). It is politically more beneficial for them to let it stand and use it as a precedent to reprogram the appropriated money any way they feel like when a Democratic president gets elected. If they are really smart, they should get it blessed by D.C. Circuit court (Judge Rao) so that precedent is set in concrete. If anything, it is Republicans who should feel uncomfortable with this; but that ship has sailed.

    • Thanks: Father Coughlin
    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    @epebble

    Tend to agree and it's slightly scary any way you look at it. Our great luck to live in interesting times. FWIW I wrote more here and in previous posts. Will be entertaining to watch this play out.

  202. @anonymous
    Rice's wild lies were really over the top. Who wants a congenital liar anywhere near them let alone in a position of authority? She was part of Obama's stable of sadistic war loving women (at a distance of course). Harris is one of those resentful light skinned blacks who are doubly angry because they can never be white and join the white club. Biden really painted himself into a corner by saying he was going for a POC VP. With close to 47M blacks in the US it's remarkable how one can count on one's fingers the number who have any capability whatsoever for such a job and who don't beat their chest 24/7 about being black.

    Replies: @LMD

    “…it’s remarkable how one can count on one’s fingers the number who have any capability whatsoever for such a job…”

    As opposed to the white men who have done such a great job recently? Bush—Great Recession, Iraq
    Trump—annual trillion dollar deficits, horrible pandemic response

    • Troll: Hibernian
  203. At risk of repeating myself, don’t count out Whitless. She’s been preening as the anti-Karen Karen CoronaCaust Queen. And look who old Joe’s having for dinner..

    https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/08/07/gretchen-whitmer-joe-biden-vice-president/3325013001/

  204. Obama side stepped John Kerry to make Rice his Secretary of State. Congress wisely denied him. I was and am a 2 term Obama supporter but the fact he failed to get us a true public option & left us with more Romneycare type ACA trash tired me of Obama….his constant cucking to the “sister” aka Rice, Hillary and that weirdo Samantha Power chapped my hide.

    His constant prolonging of the wars in the Islamic world and his attention on foreign rather than domestic policies is why i looked the other way when Trump ran….

    I dunno what Rice did but someone high up is pushing her towards the White House…..couldnt get her in as Sec of State so now they’re trying veep….

    Obama’s 2 terms were a disappointment…..from our meddling in Libya and. Somalia to our meddling in Ukraine via the neocon holdovers like Victoria Nuland….

    The pro war types won’t go into the next life peacefully…..its going to take much force and violence i fear….theyre dug in like Alabama ticks….

  205. SMK says: • Website
    @Digital Samizdat
    In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.

    Kamala Sutra. Horizontal Harris. Are we still allowed to use the word 'mistress' in our brave new world? Or is it passé?

    Replies: @Lot, @SMK, @ben tillman

    Sleeping with a ogre like Willie Brown to advance one’s political career is repulsive but not nearly as awful as invading Libya and murdering Gaddafi and creating a refuge crisis that plagues and blights Western Europe. Besides, Harris is sexy for a woman in her mid-50’s. If Biden must pick a mulatto or quadroon as his running mate -who’ll soon be president if Biden is elected as his dementia progresses and will ultimately render him so impaired that he won’t be able to give speeches or answer questions at press conferences and will be removed from office under the 25th Amendment- let it be a sexy quadroon who’s 1/4 white and half Mumbai Indian with an effusive smile and stylish wardrobe.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @SMK

    The way many of you think we should select our political leaders leaves me somewhat dumbfounded.

  206. @AnotherDad
    @syonredux

    Not attractive kids.

    Interesting, cause i don't think Susan Rice is an unattractive woman--high side of average--ok facial symmetry, nothing too weird going on. She's and her husband just didn't mix well--at least in terms of looks. (The son seems pretty cool in terms of figuring stuff out for himself. Betting would be daughter is a tedious SJW.)

    Replies: @LMD

    After seeing a picture of the son, I had to find a picture of her husband. Tall, lanky fellow, yet still has a double chin. Probably slightly below average to most people, but not odd-looking like the son.

    • Thanks: Father Coughlin
  207. @AnotherDad

    Strange in my opinion. America deserves better than this.
     
    America has "deserved" better presidents than every one we've had since Eisenhower.

    And if you look back with a critical eye it's overall not a very impressive list period.

    "Deserved" simply has very little to do with it. If we want better we have to get to work and demand better.

    Replies: @Jane Plain, @Reg Cæsar, @throtler

    I don’t think much of Eisenhower and his forced integration either.

  208. @Ron Mexico
    @nebulafox

    Hoover "the most accomplished." Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @J.Ross

    Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life

    This is objectively true and your attack misses a key criterion. Hoover was an orphan who came from less than what people usually mean when they say they came from nothing. He became a respected engineer and then created a brilliant plan to identify and repatriate displaced persons following WWI. Scandinavians used to call a useful, brilliant person a “Hoover.”

    • Replies: @Ron Mexico
    @J.Ross

    I quoted his "most accomplished" statement, not "in his pre-political" statement. It wasn't an "attack." I feel Jefferson is more "accomplished." That's my $2 take.

    Replies: @J.Ross

  209. @theMann
    I read that headline and thought this was going to be about the two of them oiled in bikinis going at it in a steel cage death match.



    I am VERY disappointed.

    Replies: @throtler

    Not me. Those two skanks are disgusting.

  210. @Digital Samizdat
    In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.

    Kamala Sutra. Horizontal Harris. Are we still allowed to use the word 'mistress' in our brave new world? Or is it passé?

    Replies: @Lot, @SMK, @ben tillman

    In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.

    “In various positions” — LOL. Somehow you significantly improved on what has gotten to be an old joke around here.

    • Replies: @black sea
    @ben tillman

    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships. Whenever he mentored her, she took it all in, learning to distinguish between "hard" and "soft" power, and how to work a crowd until it reaches a climax. This deep penetration of Brown's means and methods assisted her in her rise to the nexus of political power.

    Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .

    Replies: @Jack D, @Escher, @Jim Don Bob

  211. @Jane Plain
    (although he has slightly sub-Saharan features).

    I don't think so - but the hair has a slight kink.

    He has an unstable look. I think Fryer did a study on life outcomes for biracial kids & found mostly predictable results. They scored midway between whites & blacks on intellect, but there was one interesting outlier: recklessness. They were more reckless than either whites or blacks. Interesting, no?

    Replies: @Escher

    Was it to rebel against the more functional part of their ancestry?

  212. @The Wild Geese Howard
    @JerseyJeffersonian


    Well, no, fuckwits, this is a nation that has worked assiduously to, in as many ways possible, attain autarchy in all credible measures of national power, especially in the realm of the military.
     
    This is because the goofs in DC miss the key point that the Russian defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems focused on defeating and killing the enemy.

    The US defense industry is dedicated to designing weapons systems that enrich their executives, DC insiders, and flag-level officers while creating a spider-web of job sites across the US that are useful cudgels against any legislators that speak out about cutting wasteful spending on MIC pork programs.

    As a result, Russia has a 10 year lead on the US in hypersonics. At the rate the US is going they will be lucky to field a vestigial hypersonic capability in 2024 or 2025. The Lockheed Martin HCSW, which was planned to be one of the US' major hypersonic programs, was outright canceled several months ago.

    Russia also has the world's premier integrated air defense system, which has proven highly effective against the now dated Tomahawk cruise missile.

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

    Why do we care about the Russians again??

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    @Father Coughlin


    Why do we care about the Russians again??
     
    I should probably treat your question as rhetorical, but I will answer regardless.

    We certainly don't need to lay awake at night regarding the Russians.

    However, we should be concerned about their export sales of highly effective systems to current and potential opponents.

    The proliferation of S-200/300/400 SAM systems and the myriad of Su-27/30/35 Flanker variants are the two most notable examples of this practice.
    , @anon
    @Father Coughlin

    If Trump is reelected, I will be thoroughly impressed and consider them as the lone Superpower. There is absolutely nothing to fear from China as long as Putin/Russia are around.

  213. @Hapalong Cassidy
    If a Trump defeat is a foregone conclusion, then maybe Rice is the least harmful choice. Because of her past, a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions than would Harris. And because of her white goy husband and especially her right-wing son, maybe there’s a chance she doesn’t hate white people as much as most black Dem leaders (or most Dems in general).

    Replies: @Giancarlo M. Kumquat, @Jane Plain, @ben tillman

    If a Trump defeat is a foregone conclusion, then maybe Rice is the least harmful choice. Because of her past, a lot more scrutiny would be given to her foreign policy decisions than would Harris.

    What’s with the passive voice? Who is going to scrutinize her decisions? Surely not the mass media, nor the public — most of whom have no idea who she is.

  214. @Hibernian
    @Patrick Boyle

    You're exaggerating slightly. He became a nuclear submarine officer and the course he took was at Rennselaer Poytechnic Institute.

    Replies: @Foreign Expert

    Rennselaer Poytechnic Institute

    Not surprisingly, poytech i located in Honolulu.

  215. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration.

    It was not “our” decision. We had nothing to do with it.

  216. Anon[101] • Disclaimer says:

    I nearly fell off my chair when I learned that Susan Rice’s son was the president of the Young Republicans’ Club at Stanford. I read an interview (I think in the Stanford Review, a conservative campus paper started by Peter Thiel when he was there) where he said growing up his parents always talked about politics at the dinner table, and “when you know politics as much as I do, you’d be a Republican too”. That was when Rice was working for Obama. What does that tell you about Obama’s politics?! Rice probably has so much dirt on Obiden they have to make her Veep to keep her from ratting them out.

    My favorite Kamala Harris meme: “I’ll cut you.”

  217. @Paleo Liberal
    Here is my prediction.

    Among the “short list”, Ms. Harris is my last choice, but I think she will be picked.

    Why?

    When Obama got the nomination, some were worried he would be a left wing radical. By choosing the banks’ best buddy Biden as his VP. He signaled that the banks would be treated very well. And they were.

    Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.

    Replies: @Bucky, @Colin Wright

    ‘Harris is a former prosecutor. By picking Harris, Biden signals to the lawn order types that he won’t go along with defunding the police, and will actually treat the police well.’

    Harris wasn’t exactly popular with the San Francisco police. She refused to seek the death penalty in a particularly egregious cop-killing.

  218. 1) her brother-in-law is Tony West, general counsel of Uber, so she is a major union-buster
    2) She didnt marry Jewish until she absolutely had to (right before her Senate race). BBD til then.

  219. @Meretricious
    Steve, you write that Rice is in the top 1% of blacks--that I'll agree with. Can we agree that no 100% sub-Saharans are in this 1% cohort? My reading of Rice's IQ is that she's on the par of an average law partner (125-135). Not so impressive

    Replies: @Colin Wright

    ‘Steve, you write that Rice is in the top 1% of blacks–that I’ll agree with. Can we agree that no 100% sub-Saharans are in this 1% cohort? My reading of Rice’s IQ is that she’s on the par of an average law partner (125-135). Not so impressive’

    Rice is pretty obviously mostly white. I doubt her IQ is much affected.

    • Replies: @3g4me
    @Colin Wright

    @220 Colin Wright: Check her college photo posted in Jane Plain's comment and see if you still assert she's 'mostly' White. 35% at best, plus surgery and tons of chemicals.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Anon

  220. @AnotherDad
    @Reg Cæsar


    Hell, the only halfway decent ones in my lifetime have been Reagan and Trump, outsiders and amateurs.
     
    Reagan signed the Simpson-Mazzoli amnesty, which was the only highly significant effect of his presidency ... and a disaster for the nation. (I guess the China trade was opened and boosted as well--another disaster.)

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Mr McKenna

    See also the explosive growth of the national debt under Reagan-Bush.

    It exploded again under W, and then the floodgates really opened.

    Fortunately, ‘deficits don’t matter’ as one wag put it.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Mr McKenna

    The national debt doubled under BHO, from $10 trillion to $20 trillion. The $1 trillion 2008-2009 "stimulus" got baked into the baseline budget and never went away. The (acknowledged) national debt is now in the high 20 trillions of dollars and will probably hit 30 before years end.

  221. @epebble
    @Jim Don Bob

    They will be dumb to go to court over this (even if it can be overturned). It is politically more beneficial for them to let it stand and use it as a precedent to reprogram the appropriated money any way they feel like when a Democratic president gets elected. If they are really smart, they should get it blessed by D.C. Circuit court (Judge Rao) so that precedent is set in concrete. If anything, it is Republicans who should feel uncomfortable with this; but that ship has sailed.

    Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Tend to agree and it’s slightly scary any way you look at it. Our great luck to live in interesting times. FWIW I wrote more here and in previous posts. Will be entertaining to watch this play out.

  222. @nebulafox
    >On the other hand, Rice’s private life appears to have been decorous: her one marriage at age 28, two kids, still married.

    Yeah, and I'd much rather prefer Dubya babysitting my eventual kids over Trump. That has no bearing whatsoever on who I want making policy. This goes beyond morals to raw intelligence in general: Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life, probably the most accomplished who ever inhabited the White House, and who saved a lot of people from starving to death after WWI. But that didn't translate into good Presidential skills. Same with Jimmy Carter and his nuclear engineering background.

    It cannot be overstated how catastrophic our decision to overthrow Gaddafi was, and not just when it came to immigration. Gaddafi was one of AQ Khan's clients back in the day, interested in nuclear weapons. After 9/11, with personal painful experience in the past making him know that America could lash out, he cut a deal with Bush: give up your nuclear program, and we won't mess with you. By choosing to turn his back on that deal while simultaneously leaving out an ally of over 30 years to dry in Cairo, Obama was sending a very clear signal to the world on why you should never trust American words, and-in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    As for the human rights factor, I missed the slave markets filled with wretched kidnapped Africans when the Colonel, eccentric as he was, was in charge.

    Replies: @El Dato, @dearieme, @Almost Missouri, @Patrick Boyle, @Hypnotoad666, @Muggles, @Ron Mexico, @ben tillman, @dfordoom

    in the case of, say, Iran-why that nuclear program is utterly necessary to never, ever give up, no matter what kinds of restrictions you agree to for tactical reasons.

    Yep, I totally agree with that.

  223. @Lot
    @Digital Samizdat

    Like the Bourbon kings, Willie was amicably separated but not divorced from his wife.

    Kamala had the honorable position of Willie’s Chief Mistress (maîtresse-en-titre), not one of his side pieces (petites maîtresses).

    https://allstarbio.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/Capture-4.jpg

    https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2019/01/27/17/9045328-6637315-image-a-18_1548611209044.jpg

    https://rashmanly.files.wordpress.com/2019/01/fullsizeoutput_af5.jpeg

    Replies: @bruce county

    I’m certain Kamala could suck a golf ball though a garden hose or suck start my Harley.

  224. @Magic Dirt Resident
    Do you really believe voters will care about Rice's poor foreign policy decisions? Most Americans have probably never heard of Libya.

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Do you really believe voters will care about Rice’s poor foreign policy decisions? Most Americans have probably never heard of Libya.

    Agreed. And in any case they couldn’t care less how many non-Americans get butchered as a result of US foreign policy. They like the idea of invading/bombing/trashing other people’s countries. It gives them a nice warm feeling of superiority.

  225. @Flip
    @Kyle

    This is why gold is now $2000. I expect bonds and the dollar to drop some.

    Replies: @donut

    I’ve always bought physical gold , no ETFs thank you , and there’s talk about $3000 but I’m not convinced and while I don’t mind missing out on a profit I hate to take a loss . I think the rise in gold is related to the possibility of Biden winning the election . If Trump wins I expect gold to drop back to the low teens at least .

    • Replies: @Muggles
    @donut

    >> I think the rise in gold is related to the possibility of Biden winning the election . If Trump wins I expect gold to drop back to the low teens at least .<<

    While it is tempting to believe that, Biden has been touted for months as "heavily favored" despite flaky polling. What voter who favors Trump is going to tell a pollster that?

    I don't know what is driving metals but it is mainly paper metal, not physical. My gold bug friend says "you can't get physical gold" though he hasn't tried. Nor I. I'm not sure how close to $2,000/oz you're going to receive if you try to sell a nice fresh gold Eagle.

    What is surprising isn't metals (I think these prices reflect hedged stock positions as insurance) but the overall stock market. It isn't quite at past highs but very good lately. This doesn't seem to presage a Biden win.

    I have yet to see any discussion of a "Biden Bull Mkt" so this is puzzling. Even discounting the fact that he's not the Marxist buffoon he pretends to be for his enablers, all of his crazy tax ideas and market "management" for social policy, etc. So either Wall St. is very cynical or they don't think this Biden Wave is real. I'm leaning towards the latter.

    Replies: @donut

  226. @guest007
    @Bucky

    Everyone should go back and read the stories about the Harris campaign. Senator Harris hired family members, failed to control her staff, and did not know what she was doing. Before that Harris had never competed in a competitive race but was elected due to be selected by the establishment. Harris is ambitious but not driven enough to achieve her goals.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Fluesterwitz

    That appears to be a good thing in a bad politician, no?

  227. @Jack D
    @Sean


    Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden’s VP pick.
     
    Russia and China are not a good fit for each other - their natural position is that of competitors, not allies. They share borders and the Russians are naturally suspicious that the Chinese have their eyes on the underpopulated Russian Far East. Culturally they are like oil and water. Having two strong man dictators may make it easier to make a deal (just like Hitler was able to make a deal with Stalin) but making a deal and keeping it are two different things (as Stalin found out the hard way).

    OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. As a low trust society, any attempt to adhere to Western norms ends in chaos so Russia always reverts to strong man rule.

    Replies: @Sean, @YetAnotherAnon, @dfordoom, @Magic Dirt Resident

    Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it.

    Doesn’t that just prove that they’re smart? That they realise that westernisation would mean the end of Russia.

  228. @Jack D
    @Sean


    Russia would have nowhere else to go but with China if Rice is Biden’s VP pick.
     
    Russia and China are not a good fit for each other - their natural position is that of competitors, not allies. They share borders and the Russians are naturally suspicious that the Chinese have their eyes on the underpopulated Russian Far East. Culturally they are like oil and water. Having two strong man dictators may make it easier to make a deal (just like Hitler was able to make a deal with Stalin) but making a deal and keeping it are two different things (as Stalin found out the hard way).

    OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. As a low trust society, any attempt to adhere to Western norms ends in chaos so Russia always reverts to strong man rule.

    Replies: @Sean, @YetAnotherAnon, @dfordoom, @Magic Dirt Resident

    Russia isn’t a western country and never has been. They’ve always occupied a unique position between east and west- geographically, culturally, and ethnically.

  229. @Mr McKenna
    @AnotherDad

    See also the explosive growth of the national debt under Reagan-Bush.

    It exploded again under W, and then the floodgates really opened.

    Fortunately, 'deficits don't matter' as one wag put it.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    The national debt doubled under BHO, from $10 trillion to $20 trillion. The $1 trillion 2008-2009 “stimulus” got baked into the baseline budget and never went away. The (acknowledged) national debt is now in the high 20 trillions of dollars and will probably hit 30 before years end.

  230. @ben tillman
    @Digital Samizdat


    In contrast, Kamala Harris started her career by learning the true essence of politics while serving in various positions under master politician Willie Brown.
     
    "In various positions" -- LOL. Somehow you significantly improved on what has gotten to be an old joke around here.

    Replies: @black sea

    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships. Whenever he mentored her, she took it all in, learning to distinguish between “hard” and “soft” power, and how to work a crowd until it reaches a climax. This deep penetration of Brown’s means and methods assisted her in her rise to the nexus of political power.

    Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .

    • LOL: bruce county
    • Replies: @Jack D
    @black sea


    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships.
     
    As well as the ins and outs of the business.

    Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat

    , @Escher
    @black sea

    She also learnt how to see men for what they are, and to fake it till she made it.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @black sea


    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships. Whenever he mentored her, she took it all in, learning to distinguish between “hard” and “soft” power, and how to work a crowd until it reaches a climax. This deep penetration of Brown’s means and methods assisted her in her rise to the nexus of political power.
     
    Willie taught her when to come and when to go. He taught her to be flexible, when to take matters into her own hands, when to bend over to help, and when to lie back and let things take their course. He helped her improve her oral skills and work a room when necessary.

    That's all I got for now. Next!
  231. @Reg Cæsar
    @Ron Mexico


    Hoover “the most accomplished.” Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?
     
    Outside of public office. Read up on his "social" work. Jimmy Carter has nothing on Hoover.


    The Great Humanitarian
    Herbert Hoover's Food Relief Efforts


    Note that this site is at Cornell College in his native Iowa, not that Johnny-come-lately out in Ithaca. The founders were cousins.

    There's also this: https://www.hoover.org/about/missionhistory

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @MEH 0910

    Herbert Hoover was instrumental in rolling back post WW-II plans developed by the Roosevelt administration that would have resulted in mass starvation in Germany. This puts the lie to the idea that he was an incompetent bumbler and Franklin Roosevelt was a savior of humanity.

    When I was in 6th grade Indoctrination Class, our teacher told us there was a policy of deindustrialization called the Morgenthau Plan that would have resulted in mass starvation of the people of Germany in the aftermath of WW-II. We were further told that fortunately this plan was not put in place, rather, the Marshal Plan of food aid and reconstruction was instituted instead.

    I was safely indoctrinated until Curtis Yarvin, back when he commented freely as Mencius Moldbug, opined that any serious plan to combat Climate Change, if you believed what the 12-years-before-the-world-ends alarmists are telling us, would require rolling back industrial production by 80%. He further explained that such a rollback was actually tried in the form of the Morgenthau Plan, which by 1947 was on the brink of inflicting mass death on German civilians as a result of starvation.

    The Morgenthau Plan was actually implemented? Teacher told me it never was! Seeking corroboration of Moldbug’s outrageous claim, I turned to Wikipedia, our most trusted source of historical and current information, and there it was, German civilians being restricted to below 1000 (kilo)calories/day, with Herbert Hoover, in the irony of ironies, speaking Truth to Power to the holdovers of the Roosevelt Era for what they were doing.

    For all of the claims and counterclaims of the Holocaust, is it fair to say that the primary means by which death was inflicted on its victims was by engaging them in slave labor and feeding them just enough that they would slowly starve to death or succumb to disease in a weakened state? It is the cornerstone of Holocaust Denial that Zyklon B never happened and that people “just happened” to die from privation under wartime camp conditions, but weren’t Japanese generals hanged for “simply” inflicting similar slow starvation on their prisoners? Wasn’t the horror of the Allied armies liberating the camps not that they found mass graves or large number of bodies, but rather, that they saw living human skeletons?

    Perhaps it would be fitting that for the German people to have been complicit in murdering millions, slowly and horribly by feeding them starvation rations that this fate would be visited upon them in return? But that was never the Narrative. The leaders of the Shining City Upon a Hill would never admit to that. Mencius Moldbug took a dump in the punch bowl of our collective self image of Who We Are, and the Wikipedia article underwent a substantial reedit to downplay the degree of calorie restriction along with the role of Herbert Hoover in yelling Stop.

    Does anyone out there have family stories regarding conditions in 1947 Germany? I know someone whose family was sending food aid to relatives in Germany in that time frame, but the people who were direct witnesses to this are rapidly passing on. I didn’t know then what Moldbug told me when I still had access to such people.

    That said, Herbert Hoover was a great man, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    @Inquiring Mind

    The Allies were concerned that there would be Iraqi style Nazi resistance to a post-war occupation and felt that control of food was an important lever. This lasted only for a brief period once it became clear that post-war resistance was going to be minimal - the Nazis focused mainly on getting their big-wigs out of the country (mainly to S. America) and made no serious efforts at an uprising. Due to Cold War competition, the Americans quickly shifted gears.


    By August 1945 General Clay was becoming increasingly concerned about the humanitarian and political situation in the area under his responsibility. He stated "There is no choice between being a communist on 1,500 calories a day and a believer in democracy on 1000 calories".

     


    According to the British Medical Journal, mortality in the British zone was above its pre-war level until June, 1946, when the death rate fell below that of 1938.[24] Also, once it became clear there would be no rising, as threatened by the Nazis during the war, food controls were relaxed.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany

    So we are talking about a very brief period in which conditions were bound to be chaotic anyway in the aftermath of the war. There was never any widespread starvation to the point where people were actually dying. A Weight Watchers diet is 1200 calories and no one dies from it. If America could be put on a 1200 calorie diet for a year, the public health implications would be fantastically positive. OTOH, two million Soviet prisoners of war were literally starved to death by German forces over the winter of 1941/42.

    Replies: @anon, @3g4me, @JMcG

    , @anon
    @Inquiring Mind

    Thanks for that info.
    As to other parts of Morgenthau's Plan, returning to a pastoral lifestyle wouldn't have been a bad thing then or now, for the Germans.
    Perhaps Henry was one of those people who never ventured out of Manhattan's central Business district in their lives?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    , @bruce county
    @Inquiring Mind

    England didn't fare much better towards the end of the war and immediately after.
    I remember my grandfather (Canada) telling stories of sending food to family as many were going hungry. They also sent basic first aid and medicine. My grandfather came to Canada in 1914 as a Barnardo Boy. Basically a child slave. He lucked out and ended up with a good family. Strangely enough his brother was shipped over one year later and ended up in the same small town and met in church. Incredible story. His sister was shipped to Australia where she was married then murdered by her husband. No reparations ever paid for that fiasco.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  232. @Dmon
    "Brown challenged her, often stretching her comfort zone. Eventually though, after many long, hard hours, she learned to attack challenges head on, and developed a firm grasp of the tools needed to succeed and overcome the ups and downs she would inevitably encounter in the fluid situations into which Brown repeatedly thrust her."
    Just helping out a little (sorry about plagiarizing Steve's "long and hard" line). You guys can take it from here.

    Replies: @Herzog, @Whitey Whiteman III

    The ins and outs of government work are sticky business.

  233. Harris seems the more reality-based of the pair.

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Simon in London

    Biden's VP pick is going to become pres by 2023. The Democrats are the party of big business, but as a professional diplomat Rice is dialled into that part of big business that is most concerned with foreign policy: Wall Street. She gives an overarching view of the consensus among the investors such as index funds that are now committed to China for future profits. Harris will also be a disaster, but more in the realm of domestic politics and during her second term, and so her second term is likely to be followed by a Trump style populist backlash President. Rice would keep the lid on things and is much more dangerous for it

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

  234. “So Rice’s record of decision-making is catastrophic…The No-Fly Zone obviously meant that the mighty U.S. was committed to the overthrow and murder (as it turned out, by sodomization) of Col. Qadaffi.”

    Mr. Sailer, if you are content with labeling a politician’s decision making in one event as catastrophic, then by extension of YOUR logic, you must also characterize this president’s record in a similar event. But that would, once again, take some NOTICING on your part.

    https://www.france24.com/en/20191217-placating-turkey-trump-admin-says-doesn-t-recognize-armenian-genocide

    https://www.thejournal.ie/explainer-syria-turkey-kurds-4845405-Oct2019/

    • Troll: YetAnotherAnon
  235. @Simon in London
    Harris seems the more reality-based of the pair.

    Replies: @Sean

    Biden’s VP pick is going to become pres by 2023. The Democrats are the party of big business, but as a professional diplomat Rice is dialled into that part of big business that is most concerned with foreign policy: Wall Street. She gives an overarching view of the consensus among the investors such as index funds that are now committed to China for future profits. Harris will also be a disaster, but more in the realm of domestic politics and during her second term, and so her second term is likely to be followed by a Trump style populist backlash President. Rice would keep the lid on things and is much more dangerous for it

    • Replies: @Johnny Rico
    @Sean

    https://prospect.org/politics/susan-rice-has-a-disclosure-problem/

    Replies: @Sean

  236. @black sea
    @ben tillman

    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships. Whenever he mentored her, she took it all in, learning to distinguish between "hard" and "soft" power, and how to work a crowd until it reaches a climax. This deep penetration of Brown's means and methods assisted her in her rise to the nexus of political power.

    Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .

    Replies: @Jack D, @Escher, @Jim Don Bob

    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships.

    As well as the ins and outs of the business.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat
    @Jack D

    He taught her that ultimately, you can only get enough juice by juggling the political balls while at the same time patiently honing the staff for maximum performance.

    Sorry.

  237. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. "

    This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.

    Russia discovered in the 90s that "joining the West" meant in practice having all the State's assets looted by Larry Summers' cousins thrice removed, so that it was more like joining the West Bank.

    A catastrophic drop in living standards and life expectancy was accompanied by the concentration of enormous wealth in the hands of criminal oligarchs.

    It's not surprising that patriotic Russians had second thoughts. What IS surprising is that Putin, chosen by the oligarchs as a front man, was able to turn against them and remain alive.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends. These crooks are even worse – they have the power of the state behind them now. Putin’s own ill gotten wealth is estimated in the billions. Meanwhile the average Russian still has nothing. Russia has the potential to be one of the richest countries on earth. It’s a not very crowded place with vast natural resources and plenty of human capital. But is is destined to be misruled.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends."

    This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.

    Life expectancy has recovered, alcoholism is down, the collapse in living standards has been stopped and reversed. Anatoly Karlin has the details.

    Furthermore he's restored Russian national pride, at one stage sunken to the point where Time magazine could boast on the front page about US advisers electing Yeltsin, and NATO was serious about Georgia becoming a member.

    To have taken the country back from the robber barons* is an epic feat, and one day, if Russia lives, operas will be written about it.

    On the way he's been forced to do deals with some of the oligarchs - the deal being "keep out of politics and under no circumstances act against Russian national interests as I define them". He kept his word, and they've mostly kept theirs, the ones who haven't are in London or in jail.

    He's a historical titan, and the problem great men (and Russia) have will be his succession.


    * Berezovsky, using the United States as his model?


    “Listen, Volodya, what happened: we destroyed the entire political space. Devoured, not destroyed, but devoured it. We absolutely dominated … Look, I’ll suggest that we can not have effective political system, if there’s a tough competition. So I suggest we create an artificial two-party system. So, let’s say, the left and right. A socially oriented party and a neo-conservatives liberal party. Choose any. And I’ll make another party. At the same time, my own heart is closer to neoconservatives, and I think so, you [Putin] are socially oriented. ”
     

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Jesse

  238. @Inquiring Mind
    @Reg Cæsar

    Herbert Hoover was instrumental in rolling back post WW-II plans developed by the Roosevelt administration that would have resulted in mass starvation in Germany. This puts the lie to the idea that he was an incompetent bumbler and Franklin Roosevelt was a savior of humanity.

    When I was in 6th grade Indoctrination Class, our teacher told us there was a policy of deindustrialization called the Morgenthau Plan that would have resulted in mass starvation of the people of Germany in the aftermath of WW-II. We were further told that fortunately this plan was not put in place, rather, the Marshal Plan of food aid and reconstruction was instituted instead.

    I was safely indoctrinated until Curtis Yarvin, back when he commented freely as Mencius Moldbug, opined that any serious plan to combat Climate Change, if you believed what the 12-years-before-the-world-ends alarmists are telling us, would require rolling back industrial production by 80%. He further explained that such a rollback was actually tried in the form of the Morgenthau Plan, which by 1947 was on the brink of inflicting mass death on German civilians as a result of starvation.

    The Morgenthau Plan was actually implemented? Teacher told me it never was! Seeking corroboration of Moldbug's outrageous claim, I turned to Wikipedia, our most trusted source of historical and current information, and there it was, German civilians being restricted to below 1000 (kilo)calories/day, with Herbert Hoover, in the irony of ironies, speaking Truth to Power to the holdovers of the Roosevelt Era for what they were doing.

    For all of the claims and counterclaims of the Holocaust, is it fair to say that the primary means by which death was inflicted on its victims was by engaging them in slave labor and feeding them just enough that they would slowly starve to death or succumb to disease in a weakened state? It is the cornerstone of Holocaust Denial that Zyklon B never happened and that people "just happened" to die from privation under wartime camp conditions, but weren't Japanese generals hanged for "simply" inflicting similar slow starvation on their prisoners? Wasn't the horror of the Allied armies liberating the camps not that they found mass graves or large number of bodies, but rather, that they saw living human skeletons?

    Perhaps it would be fitting that for the German people to have been complicit in murdering millions, slowly and horribly by feeding them starvation rations that this fate would be visited upon them in return? But that was never the Narrative. The leaders of the Shining City Upon a Hill would never admit to that. Mencius Moldbug took a dump in the punch bowl of our collective self image of Who We Are, and the Wikipedia article underwent a substantial reedit to downplay the degree of calorie restriction along with the role of Herbert Hoover in yelling Stop.

    Does anyone out there have family stories regarding conditions in 1947 Germany? I know someone whose family was sending food aid to relatives in Germany in that time frame, but the people who were direct witnesses to this are rapidly passing on. I didn't know then what Moldbug told me when I still had access to such people.

    That said, Herbert Hoover was a great man, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

    Replies: @Jack D, @anon, @bruce county

    The Allies were concerned that there would be Iraqi style Nazi resistance to a post-war occupation and felt that control of food was an important lever. This lasted only for a brief period once it became clear that post-war resistance was going to be minimal – the Nazis focused mainly on getting their big-wigs out of the country (mainly to S. America) and made no serious efforts at an uprising. Due to Cold War competition, the Americans quickly shifted gears.

    By August 1945 General Clay was becoming increasingly concerned about the humanitarian and political situation in the area under his responsibility. He stated “There is no choice between being a communist on 1,500 calories a day and a believer in democracy on 1000 calories”.

    According to the British Medical Journal, mortality in the British zone was above its pre-war level until June, 1946, when the death rate fell below that of 1938.[24] Also, once it became clear there would be no rising, as threatened by the Nazis during the war, food controls were relaxed.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany

    So we are talking about a very brief period in which conditions were bound to be chaotic anyway in the aftermath of the war. There was never any widespread starvation to the point where people were actually dying. A Weight Watchers diet is 1200 calories and no one dies from it. If America could be put on a 1200 calorie diet for a year, the public health implications would be fantastically positive. OTOH, two million Soviet prisoners of war were literally starved to death by German forces over the winter of 1941/42.

    • Replies: @anon
    @Jack D

    1200 calories is okay for a lardarse watching TV, the Allies were using the Germans as Slave Labour, and 1200 cals is very optimistic anyway.
    Those people were being starved to death.

    , @3g4me
    @Jack D

    @240 Jack D: You are not merely predictably pedantic, you are also predictably vengeful. Endlessly exaggerating your own people's accomplishments and woes and minimizing that of others. Regardless of precisely who/what started WWII and how it was conducted, the German civilian population suffered terrible privation after the war, including massive theft, rape, disease, and malnutrition, including starvation. This was far from merely the typical chaos in the aftermath of a war; it was planned - in large part by Morgenthau and his fellows throughout the Roosevelt administration (and is well documented in Giles McDonogh's "After the Reich: The Brutal History of the Allied Occupation").

    , @JMcG
    @Jack D

    Jack, you know better than this. People who are already malnourished aren’t showing up at Weight Watchers to be put on a starvation diet.

  239. @black sea
    @ben tillman

    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships. Whenever he mentored her, she took it all in, learning to distinguish between "hard" and "soft" power, and how to work a crowd until it reaches a climax. This deep penetration of Brown's means and methods assisted her in her rise to the nexus of political power.

    Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .

    Replies: @Jack D, @Escher, @Jim Don Bob

    She also learnt how to see men for what they are, and to fake it till she made it.

  240. @SafeNow
    On the Wall St. Journal “Editorial Report” tv show last weekend, the reporters discussed Rice’s knowingly and blatantly lying about Benghazi, and how she now refuses to answer questions about it. They then said that Rice will not get away with that refusal if she is the VP candidate. As is often the case, they omitted the “because....” One would expect them to follow up by saying something like “we consulted with some political scientists who specialize in these things, and they said that forthcomingness increases greatly once a politician becomes the actual candidate in a national election.” So the question remains in my mind..will she get away with evading explanations?

    Replies: @Almost Missouri, @Stan

    Wall Street Journal is in no moral position to question Susan Rice on Libya and Benghazi. The neocons at WSJ were cheerleaders of the calamitous NATO attack on Libya.

  241. @Inquiring Mind
    @Reg Cæsar

    Herbert Hoover was instrumental in rolling back post WW-II plans developed by the Roosevelt administration that would have resulted in mass starvation in Germany. This puts the lie to the idea that he was an incompetent bumbler and Franklin Roosevelt was a savior of humanity.

    When I was in 6th grade Indoctrination Class, our teacher told us there was a policy of deindustrialization called the Morgenthau Plan that would have resulted in mass starvation of the people of Germany in the aftermath of WW-II. We were further told that fortunately this plan was not put in place, rather, the Marshal Plan of food aid and reconstruction was instituted instead.

    I was safely indoctrinated until Curtis Yarvin, back when he commented freely as Mencius Moldbug, opined that any serious plan to combat Climate Change, if you believed what the 12-years-before-the-world-ends alarmists are telling us, would require rolling back industrial production by 80%. He further explained that such a rollback was actually tried in the form of the Morgenthau Plan, which by 1947 was on the brink of inflicting mass death on German civilians as a result of starvation.

    The Morgenthau Plan was actually implemented? Teacher told me it never was! Seeking corroboration of Moldbug's outrageous claim, I turned to Wikipedia, our most trusted source of historical and current information, and there it was, German civilians being restricted to below 1000 (kilo)calories/day, with Herbert Hoover, in the irony of ironies, speaking Truth to Power to the holdovers of the Roosevelt Era for what they were doing.

    For all of the claims and counterclaims of the Holocaust, is it fair to say that the primary means by which death was inflicted on its victims was by engaging them in slave labor and feeding them just enough that they would slowly starve to death or succumb to disease in a weakened state? It is the cornerstone of Holocaust Denial that Zyklon B never happened and that people "just happened" to die from privation under wartime camp conditions, but weren't Japanese generals hanged for "simply" inflicting similar slow starvation on their prisoners? Wasn't the horror of the Allied armies liberating the camps not that they found mass graves or large number of bodies, but rather, that they saw living human skeletons?

    Perhaps it would be fitting that for the German people to have been complicit in murdering millions, slowly and horribly by feeding them starvation rations that this fate would be visited upon them in return? But that was never the Narrative. The leaders of the Shining City Upon a Hill would never admit to that. Mencius Moldbug took a dump in the punch bowl of our collective self image of Who We Are, and the Wikipedia article underwent a substantial reedit to downplay the degree of calorie restriction along with the role of Herbert Hoover in yelling Stop.

    Does anyone out there have family stories regarding conditions in 1947 Germany? I know someone whose family was sending food aid to relatives in Germany in that time frame, but the people who were direct witnesses to this are rapidly passing on. I didn't know then what Moldbug told me when I still had access to such people.

    That said, Herbert Hoover was a great man, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

    Replies: @Jack D, @anon, @bruce county

    Thanks for that info.
    As to other parts of Morgenthau’s Plan, returning to a pastoral lifestyle wouldn’t have been a bad thing then or now, for the Germans.
    Perhaps Henry was one of those people who never ventured out of Manhattan’s central Business district in their lives?

    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @anon

    He played gentleman farmer in the Hudson Valley. A wolrdview limited to NYC wasn't his problem.

  242. @Mr McKenna
    @Sean


    America simply has to bring Russia on board a Western grand alliance.
     
    ATM, the closest thing to a "Grand Western Alliance" is the Euro-American War on Whites.

    Russia is never, ever going to sign on to a plan like that. Which, incidentally, is why the US 'Establishment' is at war with Russia nowadays.

    Replies: @Stan

    Sean is an Israel shill. Who is he referring to when he says “we”.

  243. @Inquiring Mind
    @Reg Cæsar

    Herbert Hoover was instrumental in rolling back post WW-II plans developed by the Roosevelt administration that would have resulted in mass starvation in Germany. This puts the lie to the idea that he was an incompetent bumbler and Franklin Roosevelt was a savior of humanity.

    When I was in 6th grade Indoctrination Class, our teacher told us there was a policy of deindustrialization called the Morgenthau Plan that would have resulted in mass starvation of the people of Germany in the aftermath of WW-II. We were further told that fortunately this plan was not put in place, rather, the Marshal Plan of food aid and reconstruction was instituted instead.

    I was safely indoctrinated until Curtis Yarvin, back when he commented freely as Mencius Moldbug, opined that any serious plan to combat Climate Change, if you believed what the 12-years-before-the-world-ends alarmists are telling us, would require rolling back industrial production by 80%. He further explained that such a rollback was actually tried in the form of the Morgenthau Plan, which by 1947 was on the brink of inflicting mass death on German civilians as a result of starvation.

    The Morgenthau Plan was actually implemented? Teacher told me it never was! Seeking corroboration of Moldbug's outrageous claim, I turned to Wikipedia, our most trusted source of historical and current information, and there it was, German civilians being restricted to below 1000 (kilo)calories/day, with Herbert Hoover, in the irony of ironies, speaking Truth to Power to the holdovers of the Roosevelt Era for what they were doing.

    For all of the claims and counterclaims of the Holocaust, is it fair to say that the primary means by which death was inflicted on its victims was by engaging them in slave labor and feeding them just enough that they would slowly starve to death or succumb to disease in a weakened state? It is the cornerstone of Holocaust Denial that Zyklon B never happened and that people "just happened" to die from privation under wartime camp conditions, but weren't Japanese generals hanged for "simply" inflicting similar slow starvation on their prisoners? Wasn't the horror of the Allied armies liberating the camps not that they found mass graves or large number of bodies, but rather, that they saw living human skeletons?

    Perhaps it would be fitting that for the German people to have been complicit in murdering millions, slowly and horribly by feeding them starvation rations that this fate would be visited upon them in return? But that was never the Narrative. The leaders of the Shining City Upon a Hill would never admit to that. Mencius Moldbug took a dump in the punch bowl of our collective self image of Who We Are, and the Wikipedia article underwent a substantial reedit to downplay the degree of calorie restriction along with the role of Herbert Hoover in yelling Stop.

    Does anyone out there have family stories regarding conditions in 1947 Germany? I know someone whose family was sending food aid to relatives in Germany in that time frame, but the people who were direct witnesses to this are rapidly passing on. I didn't know then what Moldbug told me when I still had access to such people.

    That said, Herbert Hoover was a great man, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

    Replies: @Jack D, @anon, @bruce county

    England didn’t fare much better towards the end of the war and immediately after.
    I remember my grandfather (Canada) telling stories of sending food to family as many were going hungry. They also sent basic first aid and medicine. My grandfather came to Canada in 1914 as a Barnardo Boy. Basically a child slave. He lucked out and ended up with a good family. Strangely enough his brother was shipped over one year later and ended up in the same small town and met in church. Incredible story. His sister was shipped to Australia where she was married then murdered by her husband. No reparations ever paid for that fiasco.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @bruce county

    Rationing in England didn't end until 1954.

  244. @Sean
    @Simon in London

    Biden's VP pick is going to become pres by 2023. The Democrats are the party of big business, but as a professional diplomat Rice is dialled into that part of big business that is most concerned with foreign policy: Wall Street. She gives an overarching view of the consensus among the investors such as index funds that are now committed to China for future profits. Harris will also be a disaster, but more in the realm of domestic politics and during her second term, and so her second term is likely to be followed by a Trump style populist backlash President. Rice would keep the lid on things and is much more dangerous for it

    Replies: @Johnny Rico

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Johnny Rico


    https://prospect.org/politics/susan-rice-has-a-disclosure-problem/

    Competitive strategy teaches us that success comes from perfectly organizing a company around one advantage. McKinsey and BCG are hooked into the spine of capitalism by their incredible domination of the elite schools in the US.

    The market is now shifting. Can they be hooked into the spine of Chinese decision-making, while doing the same in the US? Michael Porter would likely say no because no company can perfectly arrange itself around two competitive advantages.[...]

    Many have asked which firm can topple McKinsey or BCG? The better question is which Chinese consulting firm will rise with China, because that is the firm which will topple McKinsey. It will happen for the very same reason British firms do not currently dominate the US market after the US passed the British as the dominant economic and military power.

    Obviously, when the US was a young nation and Harvard was a backwater, the British schools, their alumni and the employers of those alumni were superior to their US counterparts. Why did those superior British firms not move in and dominate US business like McKinsey thinks it can do in China? The Americans gradually locked out the superior British banks, law firms and other advisors to build their own capabilities.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  245. @Jack D
    @Inquiring Mind

    The Allies were concerned that there would be Iraqi style Nazi resistance to a post-war occupation and felt that control of food was an important lever. This lasted only for a brief period once it became clear that post-war resistance was going to be minimal - the Nazis focused mainly on getting their big-wigs out of the country (mainly to S. America) and made no serious efforts at an uprising. Due to Cold War competition, the Americans quickly shifted gears.


    By August 1945 General Clay was becoming increasingly concerned about the humanitarian and political situation in the area under his responsibility. He stated "There is no choice between being a communist on 1,500 calories a day and a believer in democracy on 1000 calories".

     


    According to the British Medical Journal, mortality in the British zone was above its pre-war level until June, 1946, when the death rate fell below that of 1938.[24] Also, once it became clear there would be no rising, as threatened by the Nazis during the war, food controls were relaxed.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany

    So we are talking about a very brief period in which conditions were bound to be chaotic anyway in the aftermath of the war. There was never any widespread starvation to the point where people were actually dying. A Weight Watchers diet is 1200 calories and no one dies from it. If America could be put on a 1200 calorie diet for a year, the public health implications would be fantastically positive. OTOH, two million Soviet prisoners of war were literally starved to death by German forces over the winter of 1941/42.

    Replies: @anon, @3g4me, @JMcG

    1200 calories is okay for a lardarse watching TV, the Allies were using the Germans as Slave Labour, and 1200 cals is very optimistic anyway.
    Those people were being starved to death.

    • Agree: sayless
  246. @black sea
    @ben tillman

    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships. Whenever he mentored her, she took it all in, learning to distinguish between "hard" and "soft" power, and how to work a crowd until it reaches a climax. This deep penetration of Brown's means and methods assisted her in her rise to the nexus of political power.

    Thank you, ladies and gentlemen, and good night . . .

    Replies: @Jack D, @Escher, @Jim Don Bob

    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships. Whenever he mentored her, she took it all in, learning to distinguish between “hard” and “soft” power, and how to work a crowd until it reaches a climax. This deep penetration of Brown’s means and methods assisted her in her rise to the nexus of political power.

    Willie taught her when to come and when to go. He taught her to be flexible, when to take matters into her own hands, when to bend over to help, and when to lie back and let things take their course. He helped her improve her oral skills and work a room when necessary.

    That’s all I got for now. Next!

  247. @donut
    @Flip

    I've always bought physical gold , no ETFs thank you , and there's talk about $3000 but I'm not convinced and while I don't mind missing out on a profit I hate to take a loss . I think the rise in gold is related to the possibility of Biden winning the election . If Trump wins I expect gold to drop back to the low teens at least .

    Replies: @Muggles

    >> I think the rise in gold is related to the possibility of Biden winning the election . If Trump wins I expect gold to drop back to the low teens at least .<<

    While it is tempting to believe that, Biden has been touted for months as "heavily favored" despite flaky polling. What voter who favors Trump is going to tell a pollster that?

    I don't know what is driving metals but it is mainly paper metal, not physical. My gold bug friend says "you can't get physical gold" though he hasn't tried. Nor I. I'm not sure how close to $2,000/oz you're going to receive if you try to sell a nice fresh gold Eagle.

    What is surprising isn't metals (I think these prices reflect hedged stock positions as insurance) but the overall stock market. It isn't quite at past highs but very good lately. This doesn't seem to presage a Biden win.

    I have yet to see any discussion of a "Biden Bull Mkt" so this is puzzling. Even discounting the fact that he's not the Marxist buffoon he pretends to be for his enablers, all of his crazy tax ideas and market "management" for social policy, etc. So either Wall St. is very cynical or they don't think this Biden Wave is real. I'm leaning towards the latter.

    • Replies: @donut
    @Muggles

    You can get physical gold from APMEX in OK City as I have done for the last 16 years or so and after I retired in 2013 and my income plummeted they bought it back no problem for within a few dollars of the market price . I bought ETF Swiss Francs in 2007 and they've held up , Royal Dutch Shell has held up over the years but is declining a little . EXXON should be doing great as the Russians had a massive deal with them to develop their Arctic reserves but the idiotic sanctions killed that . GAZPROM the Russian State oil Company prices have suffered a little from our hostile policies but not a lot and I would , will bet that once NORDSTEAM 1 and 2 come on line their stock price will jump and Turk Stream is on line as well . Also the Russians are set to supply the Chinks with gas as well . I know there are many more knowledgeable guys in here than me , but

    Replies: @Flip

  248. @Jack D
    @YetAnotherAnon

    All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends. These crooks are even worse - they have the power of the state behind them now. Putin's own ill gotten wealth is estimated in the billions. Meanwhile the average Russian still has nothing. Russia has the potential to be one of the richest countries on earth. It's a not very crowded place with vast natural resources and plenty of human capital. But is is destined to be misruled.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends.”

    This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.

    Life expectancy has recovered, alcoholism is down, the collapse in living standards has been stopped and reversed. Anatoly Karlin has the details.

    Furthermore he’s restored Russian national pride, at one stage sunken to the point where Time magazine could boast on the front page about US advisers electing Yeltsin, and NATO was serious about Georgia becoming a member.

    To have taken the country back from the robber barons* is an epic feat, and one day, if Russia lives, operas will be written about it.

    On the way he’s been forced to do deals with some of the oligarchs – the deal being “keep out of politics and under no circumstances act against Russian national interests as I define them”. He kept his word, and they’ve mostly kept theirs, the ones who haven’t are in London or in jail.

    He’s a historical titan, and the problem great men (and Russia) have will be his succession.

    * Berezovsky, using the United States as his model?

    “Listen, Volodya, what happened: we destroyed the entire political space. Devoured, not destroyed, but devoured it. We absolutely dominated … Look, I’ll suggest that we can not have effective political system, if there’s a tough competition. So I suggest we create an artificial two-party system. So, let’s say, the left and right. A socially oriented party and a neo-conservatives liberal party. Choose any. And I’ll make another party. At the same time, my own heart is closer to neoconservatives, and I think so, you [Putin] are socially oriented. ”

    • Agree: Rob McX, sayless
    • Replies: @Hibernian
    @YetAnotherAnon


    ...the ones who haven’t are in London or in jail.
     
    Or assassinated in the UK or Russia.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    , @Jesse
    @YetAnotherAnon

    While I'm delighted that Russia has, for instance, drastically lowered its alcohol consumption, it's not exactly a great win for Putinism. The comparisons are between now and the most catastrophic years, socially and economically, in Russia's recent history. They'd have has to work hard to *not* reduce alcohol consumption, and increase mental wellbeing, from such a nadir.

    I wish the Russians well and have no wish to interfere in their internal workings. Russiagate is obvious lies. But that doesn't make Putin a good guy, decent leader, or someone we need to be (seen to be) in bed with. We can ignore them and focus on our own politics. No one's coming to save us, and there's no reason to expect that they would. What works for them (if it indeed does) is irrelevant for us.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

  249. @J.Ross
    At the same time that white people are oppressive, they fail to be impressive.

    https://twitter.com/IrishTimesLife/status/1290895315847901184

    First response on 4chan: "she was confused by the lack of public [email protected]%!ting." And I would add, catastrophic public transport crashes.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @3g4me, @JohnnyWalker123

    @121 J.Ross: Subcons and Han, plagues across the earth.

  250. @Reg Cæsar
    @Herzog

    Don't forget the Tutsi massacre of Hutus in Burundi in 1972. At 250,000 and 22 years earlier (i.e., smaller populations), it may be comparable to the Rwanda one proportionally.

    I knew a Rwandan Hutu man and a Burundian (mostly Tutsi) woman in the '90s. We all got along, but an American BFF of hers told me that he had told her once, "We should have killed all of you!"

    Whether that was in a fit of anger or his default position I never found out. But keep in mind there are real people behind those big African smiles.

    The Burundian lady is a nun now, by the way.

    Replies: @Herzog

    Thanks for the reminder. I was vaguely aware that there had been several back-and-forth rounds of mass killings between H and T, but wasn’t aware specifically of the 1972 “events.”

    Also, Burundi has tended to be obscured by Rwanda in the Western consciousness (and perhaps in the non-Western one as well), but of course it has a history — often a bloody history — of its own. I just can’t quite muster the energy to keep track of the details, having my day job and all that.

    When I briefly visited Rwanda about a dozen years ago, I was stunned by its natural beauty. And yes, I’m well aware that I’m not the first to say so. What was more of a surprise was that the landscapes began to change, to become Rwandan effectively, already in southern Uganda, perhaps forty miles before the actual border. And as landscapes are to a considerable extent man-made, likely there is also ethnic continuity between southern Uganda and Rwanda. Which would in turn help explain Ugandan support for the Kagame Tutsis, all the more so because Museveni of Uganda is from his country’s south himself.

  251. @Jane Plain
    A chin job, a new hairstyle, and weight loss does wonders.

    https://affairpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Susan-Rice-Stanford-yearbook-portrait.jpg

    Replies: @3g4me

    @199 Jane Plain: Add in a nose job, skin whitening cream, massive hair relaxer, etc. Rice, like most black women, wants to be black . . ish. They all rant about their sainted African ancestors, but they want to look like quadroons.

  252. @Colin Wright
    @Meretricious

    'Steve, you write that Rice is in the top 1% of blacks–that I’ll agree with. Can we agree that no 100% sub-Saharans are in this 1% cohort? My reading of Rice’s IQ is that she’s on the par of an average law partner (125-135). Not so impressive'

    Rice is pretty obviously mostly white. I doubt her IQ is much affected.

    Replies: @3g4me

    @220 Colin Wright: Check her college photo posted in Jane Plain’s comment and see if you still assert she’s ‘mostly’ White. 35% at best, plus surgery and tons of chemicals.

    • Replies: @Colin Wright
    @3g4me

    'Colin Wright: Check her college photo posted in Jane Plain’s comment and see if you still assert she’s ‘mostly’ White. 35% at best, plus surgery and tons of chemicals.'

    You need to check out what actual, full-on 100% blacks look like.

    If you're like most whites, your notion of 'black' is a composite of the 'blacks' you see who are media figures, 'black' politicians and machers, and those 'blacks' intelligent enough to participate in white society: cops, neighbors, school teachers, token managers, et al.

    That is to say, your idea of 'black' would be about 50% black. Yeah -- by that standard Susan Rice might look pretty black.

    , @Anon
    @3g4me

    Why don't you like Han? You think they're as bad as Subcons?

    Replies: @HammerJack

  253. @Jack D
    @black sea


    Willie Brown taught her the give-and-take of political relationships.
     
    As well as the ins and outs of the business.

    Replies: @Faraday's Bobcat

    He taught her that ultimately, you can only get enough juice by juggling the political balls while at the same time patiently honing the staff for maximum performance.

    Sorry.

  254. @Ed
    Susan Rice’s father is Emmett Rice, he’s been dead for almost 10 years. He was an economist and was on the Fed Reserve Board.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emmett_J._Rice

    Susan Rice’s mother is Lois Rice born in Portland Maine to Jamaican parents. She is considered one of the first black women to serve on corporate boards. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lois_Rice

    Replies: @syonredux, @Clyde

    Here is a photo of Susan Rice with family members, including her mother and father. You can see her mother is pretty light while her father is a bit darker than Obama.

    https://www.pinterest.com/pin/557109416374309402/

  255. @Muggles
    @donut

    >> I think the rise in gold is related to the possibility of Biden winning the election . If Trump wins I expect gold to drop back to the low teens at least .<<

    While it is tempting to believe that, Biden has been touted for months as "heavily favored" despite flaky polling. What voter who favors Trump is going to tell a pollster that?

    I don't know what is driving metals but it is mainly paper metal, not physical. My gold bug friend says "you can't get physical gold" though he hasn't tried. Nor I. I'm not sure how close to $2,000/oz you're going to receive if you try to sell a nice fresh gold Eagle.

    What is surprising isn't metals (I think these prices reflect hedged stock positions as insurance) but the overall stock market. It isn't quite at past highs but very good lately. This doesn't seem to presage a Biden win.

    I have yet to see any discussion of a "Biden Bull Mkt" so this is puzzling. Even discounting the fact that he's not the Marxist buffoon he pretends to be for his enablers, all of his crazy tax ideas and market "management" for social policy, etc. So either Wall St. is very cynical or they don't think this Biden Wave is real. I'm leaning towards the latter.

    Replies: @donut

    You can get physical gold from APMEX in OK City as I have done for the last 16 years or so and after I retired in 2013 and my income plummeted they bought it back no problem for within a few dollars of the market price . I bought ETF Swiss Francs in 2007 and they’ve held up , Royal Dutch Shell has held up over the years but is declining a little . EXXON should be doing great as the Russians had a massive deal with them to develop their Arctic reserves but the idiotic sanctions killed that . GAZPROM the Russian State oil Company prices have suffered a little from our hostile policies but not a lot and I would , will bet that once NORDSTEAM 1 and 2 come on line their stock price will jump and Turk Stream is on line as well . Also the Russians are set to supply the Chinks with gas as well . I know there are many more knowledgeable guys in here than me , but

    • Replies: @Flip
    @donut

    I've got lots of gold and mining shares but they've run up a lot and I won't buy any more at today's prices. I've been putting new money into Exxon. I think natural gas will come back and they have a lot.

  256. @donut
    @Muggles

    You can get physical gold from APMEX in OK City as I have done for the last 16 years or so and after I retired in 2013 and my income plummeted they bought it back no problem for within a few dollars of the market price . I bought ETF Swiss Francs in 2007 and they've held up , Royal Dutch Shell has held up over the years but is declining a little . EXXON should be doing great as the Russians had a massive deal with them to develop their Arctic reserves but the idiotic sanctions killed that . GAZPROM the Russian State oil Company prices have suffered a little from our hostile policies but not a lot and I would , will bet that once NORDSTEAM 1 and 2 come on line their stock price will jump and Turk Stream is on line as well . Also the Russians are set to supply the Chinks with gas as well . I know there are many more knowledgeable guys in here than me , but

    Replies: @Flip

    I’ve got lots of gold and mining shares but they’ve run up a lot and I won’t buy any more at today’s prices. I’ve been putting new money into Exxon. I think natural gas will come back and they have a lot.

  257. @Jack D
    @Inquiring Mind

    The Allies were concerned that there would be Iraqi style Nazi resistance to a post-war occupation and felt that control of food was an important lever. This lasted only for a brief period once it became clear that post-war resistance was going to be minimal - the Nazis focused mainly on getting their big-wigs out of the country (mainly to S. America) and made no serious efforts at an uprising. Due to Cold War competition, the Americans quickly shifted gears.


    By August 1945 General Clay was becoming increasingly concerned about the humanitarian and political situation in the area under his responsibility. He stated "There is no choice between being a communist on 1,500 calories a day and a believer in democracy on 1000 calories".

     


    According to the British Medical Journal, mortality in the British zone was above its pre-war level until June, 1946, when the death rate fell below that of 1938.[24] Also, once it became clear there would be no rising, as threatened by the Nazis during the war, food controls were relaxed.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany

    So we are talking about a very brief period in which conditions were bound to be chaotic anyway in the aftermath of the war. There was never any widespread starvation to the point where people were actually dying. A Weight Watchers diet is 1200 calories and no one dies from it. If America could be put on a 1200 calorie diet for a year, the public health implications would be fantastically positive. OTOH, two million Soviet prisoners of war were literally starved to death by German forces over the winter of 1941/42.

    Replies: @anon, @3g4me, @JMcG

    @240 Jack D: You are not merely predictably pedantic, you are also predictably vengeful. Endlessly exaggerating your own people’s accomplishments and woes and minimizing that of others. Regardless of precisely who/what started WWII and how it was conducted, the German civilian population suffered terrible privation after the war, including massive theft, rape, disease, and malnutrition, including starvation. This was far from merely the typical chaos in the aftermath of a war; it was planned – in large part by Morgenthau and his fellows throughout the Roosevelt administration (and is well documented in Giles McDonogh’s “After the Reich: The Brutal History of the Allied Occupation”).

  258. @J.Ross
    @Ron Mexico

    Herbert Hoover was an incredibly accomplished man in his pre-political life

    This is objectively true and your attack misses a key criterion. Hoover was an orphan who came from less than what people usually mean when they say they came from nothing. He became a respected engineer and then created a brilliant plan to identify and repatriate displaced persons following WWI. Scandinavians used to call a useful, brilliant person a "Hoover."

    Replies: @Ron Mexico

    I quoted his “most accomplished” statement, not “in his pre-political” statement. It wasn’t an “attack.” I feel Jefferson is more “accomplished.” That’s my $2 take.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    @Ron Mexico

    >"most accomplished pre-political"
    >I quoted the "most accomplished" and not the "pre-political"
    THAT WAS THE SAME STATEMENT! Am I on kether now? This isn't even in the rules of acquisition!

  259. @John Foster
    All you need to know about Rice: She was the African desk at State when the Rwanda Genocide occurred. Except that she told Clinton not to say that because then the US might be obligated to do something about it.

    Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @Not Only Wrathful, @Mr. Anon, @PSR

    U.S. involvement in Rwanda would have been a huge disaster.

  260. @Father Coughlin
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Why do we care about the Russians again??

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon

    Why do we care about the Russians again??

    I should probably treat your question as rhetorical, but I will answer regardless.

    We certainly don’t need to lay awake at night regarding the Russians.

    However, we should be concerned about their export sales of highly effective systems to current and potential opponents.

    The proliferation of S-200/300/400 SAM systems and the myriad of Su-27/30/35 Flanker variants are the two most notable examples of this practice.

  261. With Karen Bass, an obscure L.A. Congresswoman, starting to fade in the Biden Veep hunt due to her Fidel Castro-worship likely being inconvenient in the purple state of Florida,

    Also:

  262. @MEH 0910
    The Undertaker faces off against Kamala in a Coffin Match
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJjbBHB6aPQ

    Replies: @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RIPKamala&src=trend_click


    [MORE]

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/DontWalkRUN/status/1292617128147812352

    Replies: @black sea

    , @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1292634096712077313

    https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292618189701033984
    https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292626720256921600

    , @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/KamalaSpeaks/status/1146823209532239873

  263. @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RIPKamala&src=trend_click

    https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292617000443949061

    https://twitter.com/mitongafur/status/1292611462830096387

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    • Replies: @black sea
    @MEH 0910

    The first sentence of Brown's Op/Ed reads:


    Harris is a tested and proven campaigner who will work her backside off to get Biden elected.
     
    Is Willie a secret iSteve reader?
  264. @bruce county
    @Inquiring Mind

    England didn't fare much better towards the end of the war and immediately after.
    I remember my grandfather (Canada) telling stories of sending food to family as many were going hungry. They also sent basic first aid and medicine. My grandfather came to Canada in 1914 as a Barnardo Boy. Basically a child slave. He lucked out and ended up with a good family. Strangely enough his brother was shipped over one year later and ended up in the same small town and met in church. Incredible story. His sister was shipped to Australia where she was married then murdered by her husband. No reparations ever paid for that fiasco.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Rationing in England didn’t end until 1954.

  265. @3g4me
    @Colin Wright

    @220 Colin Wright: Check her college photo posted in Jane Plain's comment and see if you still assert she's 'mostly' White. 35% at best, plus surgery and tons of chemicals.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Anon

    ‘Colin Wright: Check her college photo posted in Jane Plain’s comment and see if you still assert she’s ‘mostly’ White. 35% at best, plus surgery and tons of chemicals.’

    You need to check out what actual, full-on 100% blacks look like.

    If you’re like most whites, your notion of ‘black’ is a composite of the ‘blacks’ you see who are media figures, ‘black’ politicians and machers, and those ‘blacks’ intelligent enough to participate in white society: cops, neighbors, school teachers, token managers, et al.

    That is to say, your idea of ‘black’ would be about 50% black. Yeah — by that standard Susan Rice might look pretty black.

  266. @The Alarmist
    It's the ADOSs driving the bus, which is why all these other pseudo-blacks and other PoCs, like Fauxcahontas, aren't gaining any traction.

    Ladies and gentlemen, the 47th President if the United Tates ... President Stacey Abrams.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Certainly possible. My guess is still Harris. But, beyond that, I don’t have a clue.

  267. @anon
    @Inquiring Mind

    Thanks for that info.
    As to other parts of Morgenthau's Plan, returning to a pastoral lifestyle wouldn't have been a bad thing then or now, for the Germans.
    Perhaps Henry was one of those people who never ventured out of Manhattan's central Business district in their lives?

    Replies: @Hibernian

    He played gentleman farmer in the Hudson Valley. A wolrdview limited to NYC wasn’t his problem.

  268. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends."

    This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.

    Life expectancy has recovered, alcoholism is down, the collapse in living standards has been stopped and reversed. Anatoly Karlin has the details.

    Furthermore he's restored Russian national pride, at one stage sunken to the point where Time magazine could boast on the front page about US advisers electing Yeltsin, and NATO was serious about Georgia becoming a member.

    To have taken the country back from the robber barons* is an epic feat, and one day, if Russia lives, operas will be written about it.

    On the way he's been forced to do deals with some of the oligarchs - the deal being "keep out of politics and under no circumstances act against Russian national interests as I define them". He kept his word, and they've mostly kept theirs, the ones who haven't are in London or in jail.

    He's a historical titan, and the problem great men (and Russia) have will be his succession.


    * Berezovsky, using the United States as his model?


    “Listen, Volodya, what happened: we destroyed the entire political space. Devoured, not destroyed, but devoured it. We absolutely dominated … Look, I’ll suggest that we can not have effective political system, if there’s a tough competition. So I suggest we create an artificial two-party system. So, let’s say, the left and right. A socially oriented party and a neo-conservatives liberal party. Choose any. And I’ll make another party. At the same time, my own heart is closer to neoconservatives, and I think so, you [Putin] are socially oriented. ”
     

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Jesse

    …the ones who haven’t are in London or in jail.

    Or assassinated in the UK or Russia.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Hibernian

    I didn't say if they were above or below ground!

  269. @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RIPKamala&src=trend_click

    https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292617000443949061

    https://twitter.com/mitongafur/status/1292611462830096387

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/i/events/1292634096712077313

  270. @Johnny Rico
    @Sean

    https://prospect.org/politics/susan-rice-has-a-disclosure-problem/

    Replies: @Sean

    https://prospect.org/politics/susan-rice-has-a-disclosure-problem/

    Competitive strategy teaches us that success comes from perfectly organizing a company around one advantage. McKinsey and BCG are hooked into the spine of capitalism by their incredible domination of the elite schools in the US.

    The market is now shifting. Can they be hooked into the spine of Chinese decision-making, while doing the same in the US? Michael Porter would likely say no because no company can perfectly arrange itself around two competitive advantages.[…]

    Many have asked which firm can topple McKinsey or BCG? The better question is which Chinese consulting firm will rise with China, because that is the firm which will topple McKinsey. It will happen for the very same reason British firms do not currently dominate the US market after the US passed the British as the dominant economic and military power.

    Obviously, when the US was a young nation and Harvard was a backwater, the British schools, their alumni and the employers of those alumni were superior to their US counterparts. Why did those superior British firms not move in and dominate US business like McKinsey thinks it can do in China? The Americans gradually locked out the superior British banks, law firms and other advisors to build their own capabilities.

    • Thanks: Johnny Rico
    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Sean

    Oxford and Cambridge were better at teaching business?

    Replies: @Sean

  271. @Father Coughlin
    @The Wild Geese Howard

    Why do we care about the Russians again??

    Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard, @anon

    If Trump is reelected, I will be thoroughly impressed and consider them as the lone Superpower. There is absolutely nothing to fear from China as long as Putin/Russia are around.

  272. @Ron Mexico
    @J.Ross

    I quoted his "most accomplished" statement, not "in his pre-political" statement. It wasn't an "attack." I feel Jefferson is more "accomplished." That's my $2 take.

    Replies: @J.Ross

    >”most accomplished pre-political”
    >I quoted the “most accomplished” and not the “pre-political”
    THAT WAS THE SAME STATEMENT! Am I on kether now? This isn’t even in the rules of acquisition!

  273. @Sean
    @Johnny Rico


    https://prospect.org/politics/susan-rice-has-a-disclosure-problem/

    Competitive strategy teaches us that success comes from perfectly organizing a company around one advantage. McKinsey and BCG are hooked into the spine of capitalism by their incredible domination of the elite schools in the US.

    The market is now shifting. Can they be hooked into the spine of Chinese decision-making, while doing the same in the US? Michael Porter would likely say no because no company can perfectly arrange itself around two competitive advantages.[...]

    Many have asked which firm can topple McKinsey or BCG? The better question is which Chinese consulting firm will rise with China, because that is the firm which will topple McKinsey. It will happen for the very same reason British firms do not currently dominate the US market after the US passed the British as the dominant economic and military power.

    Obviously, when the US was a young nation and Harvard was a backwater, the British schools, their alumni and the employers of those alumni were superior to their US counterparts. Why did those superior British firms not move in and dominate US business like McKinsey thinks it can do in China? The Americans gradually locked out the superior British banks, law firms and other advisors to build their own capabilities.
     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Oxford and Cambridge were better at teaching business?

    • Replies: @Sean
    @Steve Sailer


    The first computer to undertake business data processing was probably LEO (Lyons Electronic Office), based on the design of the Cambridge University EDSAC. LEO ran its first simple clerical program in April 1951.
    Some British firsts from the early years of stored-program computers.

    June 1948: First stored-program computer: the SSEM at Manchester University.
    June 1948: First demonstration of electronic Random Access Memory (RAM): the Williams-Kilburn CRT system on the SSEM.
    April 1949: First computer with Index Registers: the Manchester University Mark I.
    May 1949: First fully-functional stored-program computer: the EDSAC at Cambridge University.
    Feb. 1951: First commercially-available production computer to be delivered: the Ferranti Mark I.
    April 1951: Probably the first electronic computer to run a business data processing task: LEO.
    Nov. 1953: First transistorised computer: the Experimental Transistor Computer at Manchester University.
    Mar. 1954: First generally-available high-level language: the Mark I Autocode for the Ferranti Mark I.

     

  274. @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/DontWalkRUN/status/1292617128147812352

    Replies: @black sea

    The first sentence of Brown’s Op/Ed reads:

    Harris is a tested and proven campaigner who will work her backside off to get Biden elected.

    Is Willie a secret iSteve reader?

  275. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "OTOH, Russia under Putin is not a good fit for the West either. Russia can never quite bring itself to join the West. It flirts with Westernization but it never commits too it. "

    This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.

    Russia discovered in the 90s that "joining the West" meant in practice having all the State's assets looted by Larry Summers' cousins thrice removed, so that it was more like joining the West Bank.

    A catastrophic drop in living standards and life expectancy was accompanied by the concentration of enormous wealth in the hands of criminal oligarchs.

    It's not surprising that patriotic Russians had second thoughts. What IS surprising is that Putin, chosen by the oligarchs as a front man, was able to turn against them and remain alive.

    Replies: @Jack D, @Giancarlo M. Kumquat

    like a boss :

  276. @anon
    The Libyan no-fly zone was based on the no-fly zone over Iraq, put in place at the end of Poppy Bush's Gulf War I and maintained by Billy Jeff Clinton. It worked sooooo well that blindly repeating it seemed legit to the 0Bama regime, and that worked sooooo well that Hillary! demanded one over Syria during the 2016 Presidential campaign...which would have worked sooooo well until the first Russian aircraft was shot down. Then things would have gotten very, very interesting.

    I try to explain to Zoomers how close we came to a war in the Middle East vs. the Russians and they can't seem to grasp it. Because Orange Man Bad or something.

    "No fly" zones sort of work when a country has 100% air supremacy over a very weak adversary and even then it's a short-term thing at best. The "no fly" fetish just shows how cargo-cultish US leadership has become.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    As I recall, the Turks were shooting down Russian airplanes with no reaction from Moscow.

    • Replies: @Cortes
    @Anonymous

    Your recollection is, let’s be charitable, patchy.

    The yanking (Matron!) of Turkey’s leash has been evident for all to see since the single, repeat single event to which you refer.

  277. @Mr. Anon
    @John Foster

    I have heard it said that the genocide narrative is false - that it was really a civil war with an armed incursion by Tutsi based in Uganda, which the west labeled a genocide by the Hutu against the Tutsi because the West favored the Tutsi. I haven't looked into it in any detail, so I can't vouch for that view. And honestly, I don't really care. America certainly doesn't need to get mixed up in Africa (although given that the Pentagon now has an "Africom", I expect that we will). If Rice kept us out of that business, then good for her.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @Mario Partisan, @workforlivn

    Africom is run out of Stuttgart Germany. Ear to the ground.

  278. @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jack D

    "All Putin did was replace one set of crooks with a different set of crooks who are his friends."

    This is disingenuous, to put it mildly. Other words are available.

    Life expectancy has recovered, alcoholism is down, the collapse in living standards has been stopped and reversed. Anatoly Karlin has the details.

    Furthermore he's restored Russian national pride, at one stage sunken to the point where Time magazine could boast on the front page about US advisers electing Yeltsin, and NATO was serious about Georgia becoming a member.

    To have taken the country back from the robber barons* is an epic feat, and one day, if Russia lives, operas will be written about it.

    On the way he's been forced to do deals with some of the oligarchs - the deal being "keep out of politics and under no circumstances act against Russian national interests as I define them". He kept his word, and they've mostly kept theirs, the ones who haven't are in London or in jail.

    He's a historical titan, and the problem great men (and Russia) have will be his succession.


    * Berezovsky, using the United States as his model?


    “Listen, Volodya, what happened: we destroyed the entire political space. Devoured, not destroyed, but devoured it. We absolutely dominated … Look, I’ll suggest that we can not have effective political system, if there’s a tough competition. So I suggest we create an artificial two-party system. So, let’s say, the left and right. A socially oriented party and a neo-conservatives liberal party. Choose any. And I’ll make another party. At the same time, my own heart is closer to neoconservatives, and I think so, you [Putin] are socially oriented. ”
     

    Replies: @Hibernian, @Jesse

    While I’m delighted that Russia has, for instance, drastically lowered its alcohol consumption, it’s not exactly a great win for Putinism. The comparisons are between now and the most catastrophic years, socially and economically, in Russia’s recent history. They’d have has to work hard to *not* reduce alcohol consumption, and increase mental wellbeing, from such a nadir.

    I wish the Russians well and have no wish to interfere in their internal workings. Russiagate is obvious lies. But that doesn’t make Putin a good guy, decent leader, or someone we need to be (seen to be) in bed with. We can ignore them and focus on our own politics. No one’s coming to save us, and there’s no reason to expect that they would. What works for them (if it indeed does) is irrelevant for us.

    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    @Jesse

    "The comparisons are between now and the most catastrophic years, socially and economically, in Russia’s recent history. "

    Which catastrophic years were the result of following "Western" advice.

    "that doesn’t make Putin a good guy, decent leader, or someone we need to be (seen to be) in bed with"

    From the perspective of the Russian people, he's a great leader. I've zero desire to be seen in bed with him, I'm not a Russian and don't want to be, and I don't look to Russia to save the West (after WW1/2 they must be fed up with that anyway).

    But our elites, discovering how much they are hated by a substantial number of voters, are attempting to divert that hatred towards Russia. Anyone joining in the anti-Russian chorus is supporting the elites (who have driven down our standards of living, opened our borders and sent our factories to China) against the working people.

  279. @Mishima Zaibatsu
    Off-topic. New in the chronicles of "genetics have nothing to do with the higher rate of black etc people dying, it is all white racism's fault".

    ‘The virus piggybacked on racism’: why did Covid-19 hit BAME families so hard?
    Chaturvedi is determined to quash one misconception. “Some suggest that genes can account for the excess risk of Covid-19 in BAME groups, and I just want to say that’s not the case. Genetic heterogeneity is far greater within than between populations. This is a story about social inequality, not biology.”
     
    This woman is a professor of clinical epidemiology at University College London...

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/08/the-virus-piggybacked-on-racism-why-did-covid-19-hit-bame-families-so-hard

    Replies: @Rob McX, @Mr McKenna, @Gabe Ruth

    Guess that’s good news for Columbus and colonists, right?

  280. @Hibernian
    @YetAnotherAnon


    ...the ones who haven’t are in London or in jail.
     
    Or assassinated in the UK or Russia.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    I didn’t say if they were above or below ground!

  281. @J.Ross
    At the same time that white people are oppressive, they fail to be impressive.

    https://twitter.com/IrishTimesLife/status/1290895315847901184

    First response on 4chan: "she was confused by the lack of public [email protected]%!ting." And I would add, catastrophic public transport crashes.

    Replies: @Dan Hayes, @3g4me, @JohnnyWalker123

    Irish Times or (((Irish)) Times?

    • Replies: @Dan Hayes
    @JohnnyWalker123

    For the uninitiated, the Irish Times was (and is) the mouthpiece of the British Ascendancy. No need to invoke pernicious non-gentiles as there are plenty of gentiles available to do the dirty work necessitated in indoctrinated reconstituted Ireland!

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

  282. @Jesse
    @YetAnotherAnon

    While I'm delighted that Russia has, for instance, drastically lowered its alcohol consumption, it's not exactly a great win for Putinism. The comparisons are between now and the most catastrophic years, socially and economically, in Russia's recent history. They'd have has to work hard to *not* reduce alcohol consumption, and increase mental wellbeing, from such a nadir.

    I wish the Russians well and have no wish to interfere in their internal workings. Russiagate is obvious lies. But that doesn't make Putin a good guy, decent leader, or someone we need to be (seen to be) in bed with. We can ignore them and focus on our own politics. No one's coming to save us, and there's no reason to expect that they would. What works for them (if it indeed does) is irrelevant for us.

    Replies: @YetAnotherAnon

    “The comparisons are between now and the most catastrophic years, socially and economically, in Russia’s recent history. “

    Which catastrophic years were the result of following “Western” advice.

    “that doesn’t make Putin a good guy, decent leader, or someone we need to be (seen to be) in bed with”

    From the perspective of the Russian people, he’s a great leader. I’ve zero desire to be seen in bed with him, I’m not a Russian and don’t want to be, and I don’t look to Russia to save the West (after WW1/2 they must be fed up with that anyway).

    But our elites, discovering how much they are hated by a substantial number of voters, are attempting to divert that hatred towards Russia. Anyone joining in the anti-Russian chorus is supporting the elites (who have driven down our standards of living, opened our borders and sent our factories to China) against the working people.

    • Agree: sayless
  283. @JRB
    @Patrick Boyle

    I didn't know this, but I believe it. A pity, I always thought that Carter was probably the most honest president during my lifetime.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    I always thought that Carter was probably the most honest president during my lifetime.

    For what its worth, Robert Novak in “Prince of Darkness” wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington. Not in a corruption sense, but in a reflexive “why tell the truth when you can lie” sense.

    He gave a few examples in his book, then expanded on them in post-publishing interviews:

    John Hawkins: Do you think that Carter’s frequent lying and the fact that he seemed to get away with it, helped influence Bill Clinton to lie so often when he was President?

    Robert Novak: Well, I think Bill Clinton was a minor league liar compared to Jimmy Carter. Carter would just lie for the sake of lying. He was absolutely incredible.

    I put a lot of the cases in the book — I couldn’t put all of them in — but my two favorite cases are in the book. I had written a column detailing nine separate lies by Carter and he told another reporter that I had apologized to him for it. That was just an absolute lie.

    • Replies: @Corvinus
    @William Badwhite

    "For what its worth, Robert Novak in “Prince of Darkness” wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington."

    Go figure. An establishment conservative columnist attacking a liberal Democrat.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @William Badwhite

    Robert Novak was one of the last honest reporters. Not a "Journalist", but a reporter.

    I miss him, Mike Royko, Jack Germond, etc., even when I disagreed with them.

    Now we have gay AA dimwits like Don Lemon.

    2) And yes, I think Jimmie Carter is a sanctimonious POS who was a terrible president and who has never forgiven America for not re-electing him. I regret voting for him.

    Replies: @black sea

  284. @William Badwhite
    @JRB


    I always thought that Carter was probably the most honest president during my lifetime.
     
    For what its worth, Robert Novak in "Prince of Darkness" wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington. Not in a corruption sense, but in a reflexive "why tell the truth when you can lie" sense.

    He gave a few examples in his book, then expanded on them in post-publishing interviews:

    John Hawkins: Do you think that Carter’s frequent lying and the fact that he seemed to get away with it, helped influence Bill Clinton to lie so often when he was President?

    Robert Novak: Well, I think Bill Clinton was a minor league liar compared to Jimmy Carter. Carter would just lie for the sake of lying. He was absolutely incredible.

    I put a lot of the cases in the book — I couldn’t put all of them in — but my two favorite cases are in the book. I had written a column detailing nine separate lies by Carter and he told another reporter that I had apologized to him for it. That was just an absolute lie.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Jim Don Bob

    “For what its worth, Robert Novak in “Prince of Darkness” wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington.”

    Go figure. An establishment conservative columnist attacking a liberal Democrat.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
    @Corvinus

    Good catch Corky! In 50+ years in Washington surely Carter was the only liberal Democrat Novak ran across. You're special.

  285. Anticipation has been growing for weeks that Joe Biden will make history by choosing the first Black woman as a running mate on a major party’s presidential ticket.

    But after news broke over the weekend that Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a white woman, had flown to meet with Biden to discuss the vice presidency, frustration and disappointment boiled over among Black female Democrats — including some in her own state.

  286. @JohnnyWalker123
    @J.Ross

    Irish Times or (((Irish)) Times?

    Replies: @Dan Hayes

    For the uninitiated, the Irish Times was (and is) the mouthpiece of the British Ascendancy. No need to invoke pernicious non-gentiles as there are plenty of gentiles available to do the dirty work necessitated in indoctrinated reconstituted Ireland!

    • Replies: @Father Coughlin
    @Dan Hayes

    Yes, but read The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its impact on world history's chapters on the "British Ascendancy". They weren't British, and there was a certain special sauce that made them ascendant.

  287. The Dem VP nominee was picked a few days ago.

    They are just waiting for Biden to have a “good day” so they can talk to him about it.

  288. @Dan Hayes
    @JohnnyWalker123

    For the uninitiated, the Irish Times was (and is) the mouthpiece of the British Ascendancy. No need to invoke pernicious non-gentiles as there are plenty of gentiles available to do the dirty work necessitated in indoctrinated reconstituted Ireland!

    Replies: @Father Coughlin

    Yes, but read The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit and its impact on world history’s chapters on the “British Ascendancy”. They weren’t British, and there was a certain special sauce that made them ascendant.

    • Thanks: Dan Hayes
  289. @Anonymous
    @anon

    As I recall, the Turks were shooting down Russian airplanes with no reaction from Moscow.

    Replies: @Cortes

    Your recollection is, let’s be charitable, patchy.

    The yanking (Matron!) of Turkey’s leash has been evident for all to see since the single, repeat single event to which you refer.

  290. @Frank G
    I’m sure her marriage is stable since she’s obviously a lesbian. Wonder if she’s going to spend the next two months in the tanning booth to dispel any doubt of her POC-ness.

    Replies: @Mr. Grey, @LMD

    How did you come to that conclusion about her sexuality?

  291. @William Badwhite
    @JRB


    I always thought that Carter was probably the most honest president during my lifetime.
     
    For what its worth, Robert Novak in "Prince of Darkness" wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington. Not in a corruption sense, but in a reflexive "why tell the truth when you can lie" sense.

    He gave a few examples in his book, then expanded on them in post-publishing interviews:

    John Hawkins: Do you think that Carter’s frequent lying and the fact that he seemed to get away with it, helped influence Bill Clinton to lie so often when he was President?

    Robert Novak: Well, I think Bill Clinton was a minor league liar compared to Jimmy Carter. Carter would just lie for the sake of lying. He was absolutely incredible.

    I put a lot of the cases in the book — I couldn’t put all of them in — but my two favorite cases are in the book. I had written a column detailing nine separate lies by Carter and he told another reporter that I had apologized to him for it. That was just an absolute lie.

    Replies: @Corvinus, @Jim Don Bob

    Robert Novak was one of the last honest reporters. Not a “Journalist”, but a reporter.

    I miss him, Mike Royko, Jack Germond, etc., even when I disagreed with them.

    Now we have gay AA dimwits like Don Lemon.

    2) And yes, I think Jimmie Carter is a sanctimonious POS who was a terrible president and who has never forgiven America for not re-electing him. I regret voting for him.

    • Replies: @black sea
    @Jim Don Bob

    I guess most readers here know this, but for those who perhaps don't, Robert Novak was Christopher Caldwell's father-in-law.

  292. @Jim Don Bob
    @William Badwhite

    Robert Novak was one of the last honest reporters. Not a "Journalist", but a reporter.

    I miss him, Mike Royko, Jack Germond, etc., even when I disagreed with them.

    Now we have gay AA dimwits like Don Lemon.

    2) And yes, I think Jimmie Carter is a sanctimonious POS who was a terrible president and who has never forgiven America for not re-electing him. I regret voting for him.

    Replies: @black sea

    I guess most readers here know this, but for those who perhaps don’t, Robert Novak was Christopher Caldwell’s father-in-law.

  293. @3g4me
    @Colin Wright

    @220 Colin Wright: Check her college photo posted in Jane Plain's comment and see if you still assert she's 'mostly' White. 35% at best, plus surgery and tons of chemicals.

    Replies: @Colin Wright, @Anon

    Why don’t you like Han? You think they’re as bad as Subcons?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    @Anon

    Yes! Y U no like Han!! Best of all chinee!

  294. @Corvinus
    @William Badwhite

    "For what its worth, Robert Novak in “Prince of Darkness” wrote that Carter was one of the most reflexively dishonest people he dealt with in 50+ years in Washington."

    Go figure. An establishment conservative columnist attacking a liberal Democrat.

    Replies: @William Badwhite

    Good catch Corky! In 50+ years in Washington surely Carter was the only liberal Democrat Novak ran across. You’re special.

  295. @Steve Sailer
    @Sean

    Oxford and Cambridge were better at teaching business?

    Replies: @Sean

    The first computer to undertake business data processing was probably LEO (Lyons Electronic Office), based on the design of the Cambridge University EDSAC. LEO ran its first simple clerical program in April 1951.
    Some British firsts from the early years of stored-program computers.

    June 1948: First stored-program computer: the SSEM at Manchester University.
    June 1948: First demonstration of electronic Random Access Memory (RAM): the Williams-Kilburn CRT system on the SSEM.
    April 1949: First computer with Index Registers: the Manchester University Mark I.
    May 1949: First fully-functional stored-program computer: the EDSAC at Cambridge University.
    Feb. 1951: First commercially-available production computer to be delivered: the Ferranti Mark I.
    April 1951: Probably the first electronic computer to run a business data processing task: LEO.
    Nov. 1953: First transistorised computer: the Experimental Transistor Computer at Manchester University.
    Mar. 1954: First generally-available high-level language: the Mark I Autocode for the Ferranti Mark I.

  296. It’s official.. Sleepy Joe has picked Kamala Harris.

  297. @MEH 0910
    @MEH 0910

    https://twitter.com/search?q=%23RIPKamala&src=trend_click

    https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1292617000443949061

    https://twitter.com/mitongafur/status/1292611462830096387

    Replies: @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910, @MEH 0910

  298. I wonder how many blog posts iSteve has in the hopper on this pick moving forward…

  299. @SMK
    @Digital Samizdat

    Sleeping with a ogre like Willie Brown to advance one's political career is repulsive but not nearly as awful as invading Libya and murdering Gaddafi and creating a refuge crisis that plagues and blights Western Europe. Besides, Harris is sexy for a woman in her mid-50's. If Biden must pick a mulatto or quadroon as his running mate -who'll soon be president if Biden is elected as his dementia progresses and will ultimately render him so impaired that he won't be able to give speeches or answer questions at press conferences and will be removed from office under the 25th Amendment- let it be a sexy quadroon who's 1/4 white and half Mumbai Indian with an effusive smile and stylish wardrobe.

    Replies: @HammerJack

    The way many of you think we should select our political leaders leaves me somewhat dumbfounded.

  300. @Anon
    @3g4me

    Why don't you like Han? You think they're as bad as Subcons?

    Replies: @HammerJack

    Yes! Y U no like Han!! Best of all chinee!

  301. @Jack D
    @Inquiring Mind

    The Allies were concerned that there would be Iraqi style Nazi resistance to a post-war occupation and felt that control of food was an important lever. This lasted only for a brief period once it became clear that post-war resistance was going to be minimal - the Nazis focused mainly on getting their big-wigs out of the country (mainly to S. America) and made no serious efforts at an uprising. Due to Cold War competition, the Americans quickly shifted gears.


    By August 1945 General Clay was becoming increasingly concerned about the humanitarian and political situation in the area under his responsibility. He stated "There is no choice between being a communist on 1,500 calories a day and a believer in democracy on 1000 calories".

     


    According to the British Medical Journal, mortality in the British zone was above its pre-war level until June, 1946, when the death rate fell below that of 1938.[24] Also, once it became clear there would be no rising, as threatened by the Nazis during the war, food controls were relaxed.
     
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_in_occupied_Germany

    So we are talking about a very brief period in which conditions were bound to be chaotic anyway in the aftermath of the war. There was never any widespread starvation to the point where people were actually dying. A Weight Watchers diet is 1200 calories and no one dies from it. If America could be put on a 1200 calorie diet for a year, the public health implications would be fantastically positive. OTOH, two million Soviet prisoners of war were literally starved to death by German forces over the winter of 1941/42.

    Replies: @anon, @3g4me, @JMcG

    Jack, you know better than this. People who are already malnourished aren’t showing up at Weight Watchers to be put on a starvation diet.

  302. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris it is.

    – or –

    JOE BLOW!

  303. @Reg Cæsar
    @Ron Mexico


    Hoover “the most accomplished.” Which face is he on Mt Rushmore? Which memorial is his in DC? What document did he author and sign?
     
    Outside of public office. Read up on his "social" work. Jimmy Carter has nothing on Hoover.


    The Great Humanitarian
    Herbert Hoover's Food Relief Efforts


    Note that this site is at Cornell College in his native Iowa, not that Johnny-come-lately out in Ithaca. The founders were cousins.

    There's also this: https://www.hoover.org/about/missionhistory

    Replies: @Inquiring Mind, @MEH 0910

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