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From the Washington Post opinion section:

As a Black woman raised by White parents, I have some advice for potential adopters

Opinion by Rebecca Carroll
April 5, 2021 at 5:00 a.m. PDT

Rebecca Carroll is the author of “Surviving the White Gaze: A Memoir.

More than half of the Black adopted kindergarteners in the United States are raised by families of another race — usually, White. And while almost always well-meaning, these White adoptive parents must also know and understand the itinerant racism, fetishizing, adultification and stereotyping imposed on their Black children from an early age.

As a Black adoptee raised by White parents — incredibly loving White parents — in rural, White New England, I feel a vivid sense of urgency to offer some words of advice for White adoptive parents of Black children, and particularly Black girls:

We don’t think about sex before White girls do. Our bodies may develop differently, sooner, broader, but we are still girls inside of these growing bodies.

The race gap in average first menstruation isn’t huge, but, if I recall correctly, it’s something like 8 or 9 months.

Please don’t characterize us in ways that set us up for further stereotyping. If you don’t want your Black daughter to be labeled an “angry Black woman” as an adult, don’t think that calling her “a spitfire” as a child is innocuous. Find and use different language, push beyond your own vocabulary and toward a cultural conversancy — that is part of what it means to parent Black children.

Be careful how you engage with modern tropes, or perhaps more pointedly, resist the urge to turn a phrase Black people made and love and feel good about into a trope — Black Girl Magic looks different through a White lens. We are not magic because you adopted us; we are magic because our ancestors saw us coming and stayed with us in our spirits.

Huh?

Please don’t fetishize or exoticize how we look. I know it’s tempting to tell us how beautiful we are in a world that doesn’t often find us beautiful

How much of the Great Awokening is simply about black women being somewhat less attractive on average than most other races of women?

, and where the standard of beauty is historically, consistently White

Which is why nobody ever asks out East Asian girls.

, but we can tell when you’re overcompensating for that. Even if you feel bad about having been complicit in perpetuating this notion at some point in your life. Our beauty does not exist because you have given it to us.

Our hair is revelatory and gives us the first roots we can lay claim to. Find a Black hairdresser who can teach not just you how to care for our hair, but who can teach us how to care for it and wear it the way we want. …

Your naivete may be legitimate, but if you legitimately don’t understand how systemic racism works, or the ways in which it will target your child specifically and often, then maybe you shouldn’t adopt a Black child. And I mean that in the kindest way possible.

Please do not suddenly start acquiring Black friends after you adopt a Black child — if you didn’t have any to begin with, meditate on that. If you had a casual Black friend in college, but didn’t maintain that friendship into adulthood and only reference said friend when asked by your Black child why you don’t have any Black friends as an adult, you’re exploiting that Black friend to make yourself seem less racist. And that is racist.

It is also racist to adopt a Black child and raise her in an all-White environment, because you have decided that it’s okay for you to live your life, every single day, until your dying breath, without seeing another Black person. Here is a hard truth: Parenting comes with sacrifices.

But don’t gentrify!

Love is lovely. Unconditional love, though, is not unconditional if it then becomes conditional when we talk about race. If you will be unable to love your Black adopted child as a grown Black adult who calls out systemic racism not merely in society at large, but also within the White family you brought that child into, the struggle will be disproportionately real.

And finally, I am not discouraging transracial adoption.

Well, I’m pretty discouraged by this op-ed.

But it does represent a foundational dynamic between Black people and White people in America, wherein White people are setting the tone, the tenor, the structure and the standard of value for Black people who don’t have a voice. Moving past that dynamic will require brutal honesty, radical compassion and almost unimaginable levels of humanity.

Alternatively: Moving past that dynamic will require brutal inhumanity, radical cruelty, and almost unimaginable levels of dishonesty.

Here’s the blurb for her book Surviving the White Gaze:

A stirring and powerful memoir from black cultural critic Rebecca Carroll recounting her painful struggle to overcome a completely white childhood in order to forge her identity as a black woman in America.

Rebecca Carroll grew up the only black person in her rural New Hampshire town. Adopted at birth by artistic parents who believed in peace, love, and zero population growth, her early childhood was loving and idyllic—and yet she couldn’t articulate the deep sense of isolation she increasingly felt as she grew older.

Everything changed when she met her birth mother, a young white woman, who consistently undermined Carroll’s sense of her blackness and self-esteem. Carroll’s childhood became harrowing, and her memoir explores the tension between the aching desire for her birth mother’s acceptance, the loyalty she feels toward her adoptive parents, and the search for her racial identity. As an adult, Carroll forged a path from city to city, struggling along the way with difficult boyfriends, depression, eating disorders, and excessive drinking. Ultimately, through the support of her chosen black family, she was able to heal.

Intimate and illuminating, Surviving the White Gaze is a timely examination of racism and racial identity in America today, and an extraordinarily moving portrait of resilience.

 
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  1. Find and use different language, push beyond your own vocabulary and toward a cultural conversancy — that is part of what it means to parent Black children.

    Now I have to learn Ebonics in order to properly raise my adopted black child? Aw hell nah!

    • Replies: @dearieme
  2. How much of the Great Awokening is simply about black women being somewhat less attractive on average than most other races of women?

    A good chunk of it. I really had no idea black women were so fiending for non-black men to hit on them.

    I always figured black women just liked blacks and those occasional “thug”-acting men of other races. After all, they don’t even try to act or behave in such a way as to get non-black men to be interested.

    But this Great Awokening has taught me that black are positively desperate for dates from whites, East Asians, Indians, Native Americans, or other to start hitting on them at a much higher rate.

    Sad!

    And it’s not “most other races”. It’s all races. As is consistently displayed by data app data, blacks of both sexes consistently rank lowest in attractiveness.

  3. JimDandy says:

    As a non-Black non-woman raised by White parents, I also have some advice for potential adopters

  4. black sea says:

    So, a half-black child raised by whites who comes of age in an overwhelming non-black environment. Hmmm, who does this remind me of?

  5. Moses says:

    They don’t want you to see race, except when they want you to see race. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

    I have concluded the most rational policy is to avoid Blacks as much as possible. The emotional labor of being around them is draining — about as relaxing as walking thru a minefield.

  6. She sounds very upset that she never got invited to the prom by the N’SYNC looking boys and instead had to deal with dating either the whig gers or the one milqutoast black guy whom she didn’t like because he wasn’t thug enough, or perhaps the one decent-black athlete who fizzled out after high school.

    Boo hoo hoo. And I didn’t get to be the football captain or nail the hot blond in my physics class. Get over it, ya whiny c-rag.

    I mean, between her and Colin Kapernick, black children adopted by loving, caring whites sound like the most ungrateful, spoiled, hate-filled brats in the world.

    If I were considering adopting a child, I would immediately cross black ones off my list based purely on what I see in public. These pieces of trash are seething for no reason and biting the hands that fed them.

  7. paum says:

    somewhat less attractive on average

    Rebecca Carroll is a whole lot less attractive than the average black woman. She looks like a reanimated voodoo corpse. It is easy to see why she has such hangups.

  8. Rebecca Carroll is a whole lot less attractive than the average black woman.

    Certainly not a face that’s gonna launch even a rowboat, let alone a thousand ships. But let’s be fair here — she’s significantly better than the average Black woman in at least one respect.

    https://www.medicinenet.com/weight_women/article.htm

    “Across racial groups, average women’s weights in the U.S. look like this:

    Non-Hispanic Black: 186.1 pounds

    https://web.archive.org/web/20130219024639/https://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/06/opinion/sunday/why-black-women-are-fat.html

    “…many black women are fat because we want to be.”

  9. Polistra says:

    A stirring and powerful memoir from black cultural critic Rebecca Carroll recounting her painful struggle to overcome a completely white childhood

    So, she benefited tremendously from something explicitly denied to white kids in modern America.

    BTW, call me old-fashioned, but I think “you people” should consider getting your own house in order before presuming to lecture everyone else 24/7/365 about theirs.

    • Replies: @RonaldB
    , @Detroit Refugee
  10. Mrs. Enemy of Earth and I had a long stint as foster parents and eventually adoptive parents. Our first foster care placement was a sibling group of four, ages 5,4,2,and 9 months. They were the children of a couple who were here from Mexico illegally. They were great kids and we had a ball for almost two years before they returned to their parents. Our next two placements were Caucasian girls. We ended up adopting our last placement and retired from foster parenting.

    My wife had commented that she would be open to fostering/adopting a Black child. At the time I had no real opinion about it. After reading the musings of the woman quoted in this article I am really grateful we did not.

  11. Only let adoptive parents adopt children of the same race, problem solved. Then when their is an overabundance of minority kids who are growing up in orphanages, give them a copy of Rebecca Carroll’s book “Surviving the White Gaze: A Memoir.” to read so they can understand why they weren’t placed in a home with loving parents who could have cared for them and wanted to provide an opportunity for a child in unfortunate circumstances….but they were the wrong color.

    • LOL: AndrewR
    • Replies: @joe_mama
  12. Anon[206] • Disclaimer says:

    No thanks.

  13. Once this insanely, absurd propaganda about blacks becomes truly overwhelming, then Steve will have no articles to cite. That day is coming, when preposterous news articles about blacks are a daily assault and no one can even recall a day in the distant past that didn’t include these fantasies, that day is coming.

    Then Steve is out of business. He might possibly apply for work at the DMV or some other government entity, or maybe disability. Either way, it’s a black world now in America.

  14. Anon[314] • Disclaimer says:

    It occurred to me recently that I’ve never in my life come across a non-white couple who adopted a kid of another race. There must be examples, but I’ve never seen or even heard of them.

  15. Roger says: • Website

    Every article like this just reinforces my stereotypes about Black people. This is another Black woman who complains that she cannot be behave like a normal human being, but must be given an assortment of special allowances.

  16. Broken branch, descendant cry.

  17. At least “White” is capitalized in the WP as well as “Black”.

    Take pleasure in the small things.

    I am sure in another time, the author would have grown into a lively, happy, well adjusted young woman. The most under remarked wickedness of wokeness is its inflaming feelings of resentfulness, sanctimony, bitterness and self-pity …literally the most destructive and unattractive traits a person can possess

    • Agree: vhrm
    • Thanks: sayless
    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    , @Gabe Ruth
  18. Mr. Anon says:

    Surviving the White Gaze

    The White Gaze!

    That evokes The Lord of the Rings.

    One thinks of the Wizard Saruman gazing into his Palantir.

  19. anonymous[676] • Disclaimer says:

    Are there similarities in outlook or psychology between black adoptees of white adoptive parents and the mixed offspring of black-white biological parents?

    Does a mixed black-white child feel almost as if he or she had been adopted by the white parent? A kind of distance, alienation, foreign-ness?

    • Replies: @notsaying
    , @res
  20. ATBOTL says:

    We need to do more to put social pressure on white people to not adopt non-white children.

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  21. anonymous[240] • Disclaimer says:

    Elephant in South Africa dies in agony after shooting by white Trump supporter.

  22. It being 2021, not 1821, wouldn’t Ms. Carroll be biracial rather than black?

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  23. P.G. Wodehouse, in one of his stories, had a review of a trashy book consist solely of the words “Oh God!”.

    I would love to see this book garner nothing but such reviews.

    • LOL: notsaying
  24. Jorge Videla [AKA "hans frank"] says:

    How much of the Great Awokening is simply about black women being somewhat less attractive on average than most other races of women?

    nothing to do with it steve. it isn’t because occupy either steve. it’s not from universities directly. it’s not bottom up. it’s 100% top down.

    it began when G H W bush beat dukakis, the end of the cold war, and the democratic leadership council.

    dem party donors commanded that it abandon the working class and replace economic appeals with idpol.

    who are these donors? what do their names have in common? what do their names have in common with the presidents of universities, elite media staff and owners, etc..?

    it’s simple steve. but you can’t face it. you can’t let yourself see it.

    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/649/its-my-party-and-ill-try-if-i-want-to
    https://www.opensecrets.org/elections-overview/biggest-donors?cycle=2020&view=fc
    https://historyofyesterday.com/the-results-of-the-nazi-iq-tests-c3a5e442f37c

    until you get it steve you’re just as ridiculous as the woke. you’re a pro wrestling fan who thinks it’s real.

  25. Jorge Videla [AKA "hans frank"] says:

    testing…

    • Replies: @Forbes
  26. anonymous[139] • Disclaimer says:

    No good deed goes unpunished. Cross-racial adoptions should never have been allowed to begin with. The kids end up being mixed up psychologically. In this case the black ends up being a stereotypical chronic complainer with a sense of entitlement and no gratitude.

  27. Franz says:

    What a cnut. Excuse bad spelling; hard day at the shop.

    Plant this essay wherever you can. If it keeps only ONE white buckethead from adopting an out-of-race child, it’ll be worth it.

    Even if it was written by a cnut. There’s my bad spelling again!

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  28. The only white children adopted by blegs I can think of is the poor girl tortured to death by the reality ‘star’

  29. The only white children adopted by blegs I can think of is the poor girl tortured to death by the reality ‘star’

  30. • Replies: @Jeff Albertson
    , @Altai
  31. Note to self: Call agency and ask them to delay our adoption of LaQuaneesha. Lets think about this.

    • LOL: AndrewR
  32. J.Ross says:
    @paum

    This is why you’ve got to hide from your ancestors. If they see you coming, they’ll remain in your spirit, and then you’ll look like a zombie.

  33. @Just another serf

    “He might possibly apply for work at the DMV or some other government entity, or maybe disability.”

    I don’t think federal agancies employ non-blacks.

  34. Here’s the blurb for her book Surviving the White Gaze:

    What gaze? Who’s gazing? People move to New Hampshire so as not to gaze upon such creatures.

    My brother moved to a Southern city that’s about 35% black. Why? The weather? I’d rather live where there is 35″ of white– every month. Better blizzards than buzzards.

    Adopted at birth by artistic parents…

    They misspelled autistic.

    …who believed in peace, love, and zero population growth…

    As Nick Lowe once asked, what’s so funny ’bout peace, love, and zero population growth?

    The race gap in average first menstruation isn’t huge, but, if I recall correctly, it’s something like 8 or 9 months.

    Even the moon is racist.

    …don’t think that calling her “a spitfire” as a child is innocuous.

    A child until 21, when under American Shari’a she can first taste some*:

    *BTW, is it available in the US yet? I have a Spitfire glass waiting to be inaugurated.

    • Replies: @Escher
    , @kaganovitch
  35. Unlike the New York Times, the Washington Post censors comments for lack of ideological conformity relatively lightly (most of the time.)

    The reader comments under that article are scathing; a couple of them use the word “ingrate.”

    • Thanks: Escher
  36. @Goingblankagain

    At least “White” is capitalized in the WP as well as “Black”.

    Take pleasure in the small things.

    If that’s your thing, check out the magazine rack at your local ghetto pharmacy.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
  37. Escher says:

    What an ungrateful wretch.

    Bottom line: Just say No! to adopting black children.

  38. @anonymous

    No good deed goes unpunished.

    Something I read recently: the better whites treat blacks, the worse they are treated by blacks.

  39. “As a Black adoptee raised by White parents — incredibly loving White parents — in rural, White New England…”

    Quit complaining, lots of white people cannot or could not call their parents “incredibly loving.”

  40. Escher says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Her behavior is also a bit “Kentish”.

  41. TyRade says:

    A rather eloquent ‘conversancy’ for complete segregation, sadly. What does the data (Murray etc) say about the enhancement to life chances through whites adopting blacks? Australia once had a well-meaning policy of placing Aboriginal babies with whites, the better (the thinking went) to put them on the straight and narrow and non-alchoholic. Was that all just hateful white patronising, or the then ‘science’?

    • Replies: @Joe S.Walker
  42. notsaying says:
    @anonymous

    That is a good question. I wonder what the answer is

    • Replies: @Jonathan Mason
  43. @Just another serf

    I think they’ve got lots more complaining to do. Should carry Steve into retirement, easily.

  44. @Jorge Videla

    Eh, I think you should go for an Ezra Pound affect. e.e.cummings’ anti-Jewish bias is largely fictional.

    • LOL: Gary in Gramercy
    • Replies: @Jack D
    , @Jorge Videla
  45. @Reg Cæsar

    *BTW, is it available in the US yet? I have a Spitfire glass waiting to be inaugurated.

    Indeed it is
    https://www.beerguild.co.uk/news/re-born-in-the-usa/

  46. notsaying says:

    She has done well for herself. She’s had enough writing and radio experience that the people who optioned her book for TV are going to let her write the script:

    “Rebecca Carroll is a writer, editor and host of the podcast Come Through with Rebecca Carroll: 15 essential conversations about race in a pivotal year for America (WNYC Studios). Most recently, she was a cultural critic at WNYC, and a critic-at-large for the Los Angeles Times. Her writing has been published widely, and she’s the author of several books about race in America, including the award-winning Sugar in the Raw: Voices of Young Black Girls in America. Her memoir, Surviving the White Gaze (Simon & Schuster, Feb 2021), has been optioned by MGM/TV and Killer Films with Rebecca attached to adapt for a limited series.”

    https://fordschool.umich.edu/event/2021/rebecca-carroll-surviving-white-gaze

    I can see where it would be hard to be the only black person where you lived. Still, when you mine your own life for hot-button topic material I suppose there usually are hurt feelings and I can’t help but think her adoptive parents can’t be happy about this book. Despite claiming she is not against transracial adoptions, everything she says about them is negative. I am sure she will discourage some good people from adopting a child of another race and cause some kids to never be adopted. Does she think that is a good thing? Would she have preferred that herself?

  47. @R.G. Camara

    Yet dating apps report that black women are overwhelmingly more interested in black men.

    OTOH, the BW/WM couples I’ve known seem to be a social class above BM/WF couples*.

    * save for the perfect Whiskey caricature, the Guardian’s Decca Aitkenhead (now chief interviewer at the Sunday Times, successor to Lynn Barber), who left her equally white and middle-class husband for a violent black drug dealer.

  48. Anon[349] • Disclaimer says:

    The race gap in average first menstruation isn’t huge, but, if I recall correctly, it’s something like 8 or 9 months.

    Menarche, first menstruation, is one of the factors that Philippe Rushton referenced in his extension of r/K LIfe History theory from species to intra-human population groups, and he tabs menarche as a year earlier for black girls. I attempted to fact-check stuff like this in Wikipedia and scholar.google.com, but it’s really hard, since race has been deliberately elided and avoided in research for over half a century (conveniently allowing critics to say Rushton relied on old research).

    Rushton has blacks-whites-East Asians exhibiting consistent differences with blacks maturing fastest and East Asians slowest.

    So gestation is a week shorter for blacks, a week longer for Asians. There are similar measurable differences in skeletal, motor, and dental development. Menarche is a year different from race to race, as is first intercourse and first pregnancy. The latter two seem like they would be culturally influenced, but Rushton points out that worldwide, Africa, Haiti, and over time, it’s consistent. And blacks also die younger, and Asians die older. A weird difference is fraternal twins: twice as common for blacks, half as common for Asians. My fact checking here had it being slightly tighter than that, but still a gap.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    , @Farenheit
  49. Old Prude says:
    @R.G. Camara

    R.G. Your post is almost a tiny duck x -1. Wry.

  50. @Anon

    My vague impression is that black women tend to get pregnant more but have a harder time bringing babies to term. Rushton, whom I didn’t much get along with the few times I met him (he should be a hero to the Woke for emptying the Pioneer Fund’s bank account), was on to something.

  51. @YetAnotherAnon

    My vague impression back in the 1990s was that white husband/black wife couples tended to be pretty genteel, while black male/white female couples (who didn’t always make it to the altar) tended to be pretty rough.

    But I don’t get out that much anymore. Still, in 1980-2000, I spent a vast amount of time walking big city streets and keeping a certain amount of track of who I passed. I wasn’t Francis Galton with a clicker in my pocket, but I’m pretty good at being not oblivious to the obvious.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
    , @CCZ
    , @Redman
    , @Jay Fink
  52. Steve Sailer:

    “Which is why nobody ever asks out East Asian girls”

    You almost never see Asian girls in advertising, or billboards, or on covers of magazines. Even when models are from non-white countres, ther models tend to come from the euro-minority of the population. Perhaps the most extreme example is Brazil. Out of the top of my head, Brazilian supermodels: Giesle Bündchen, Shirley Mallmann, Ana Hickman, etc. As you can from their pictures and surnames, they are quite Euro. The author of this article is right: beauty standards ARE Eurocentric. And this seems to transcend gender. Previously, it was thought that Caucasian characteristics such as light eyes and hair, thin faces and pale skin were only valued in women, but the recent surveys indicates that Caucasian standards are considered the ideal. They asked people of all races to describe their ideal mates. For women, it was the classic stereotype of the blond haired, blue eyed barbie. For men, light eyes were ideal too, except that most people taking part in the survey prefered a light brown hair color for men. White skin was equally valued fior both genders. They surveyed w0men of all races on their prefered race for dating, and white, Asian and Latina women prefered white men. Only black women difered, prefering black men. Latino men came second in preference, fllowed by black men and then Asian men at the bottom of the barrel. Asian men and black women were the least prefered of all.

    The ideal man according to women of all races: 6’1-6’2, medium built, light eyes(hazel to blue), brown hair, light skin, Caucasian facial structure. This is almost the description of the young SEan Connery, except Connery had brown eyes.

  53. ic1000 says:
    @notsaying

    > “As a Black adoptee raised by White parents — incredibly loving White parents — in rural, White New England…”

    Well, there is that. But there is also every other sentence in Rebecca’s Op-Ed. And then there’s her book.

    A thought experiment. Imagine yourself as the Sheriff of sleepy Mayberry, New Hampshire. The calm is shattered by a shocking report: the double murder of a local couple, known for their artistry and for their belief in peace, love, and zero population growth. From evidence at the scene, it looks like a crime of passion.

    As you set about solving this mystery, who do you choose to interview first?

    • LOL: notsaying
    • Replies: @flyingtiger
  54. @TyRade

    Segregation would probably be a dandy idea to this woman if she thought blacks would get all the best stuff.

  55. So, the message is don’t adopt black children?

  56. Philip says:
    @Anon

    That 3 year old white girl killed this year by her black adoptive/foster parents springs to mind. Victoria Rose Smith, of South Carolina.

  57. Really not off-topic: who’d want to work with this guy?

    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/ray-fisher-opens-up-about-justice-league-joss-whedon-and-warners-i-dont-believe-some-of-these-people-are-fit-for-leadership

    He has an absurdly high opinion of himself and feels entitled to tell producers and directors what to do (“Had they taken me as seriously as they should have from the beginning, they would not have made as many foolish mistakes as they did in the process.”) – all despite his name having no commercial value whatever.

    However, there’s a touch of comedy in the idea of him being made to say “Booyah!”

  58. As a White man whose parents adopted black children, I have some advice for potential adopters: don’t do it.

    • Replies: @anon
  59. ingrate, in•grate ĭn′grāt″, n. an ungrateful person

    Through all the twisted verbiage, mindreading, and condescension I found the one kernel of wisdom in this ingrate’s screed:

    …you shouldn’t adopt a Black child.

  60. @paum

    “Rebecca Carroll is a whole lot less attractive than the average black woman.“

    Our hair is revelatory

  61. I was already pretty sure adopting a black — or as in this case, even half-black — child would be a mistake.

    This piece just adds some reasons to the list.

    • Replies: @mc23
  62. Anonymous[105] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    No good deed goes unpunished. Cross-racial adoptions should never have been allowed to begin with. The kids end up being mixed up psychologically. In this case the black ends up being a stereotypical chronic complainer with a sense of entitlement and no gratitude.

    Adoption of NE Asian kids by upper-middle whites is not uncommon in my area of the country (Boston suburbs). From what I can tell there are no problems and the kids grow up to be normal and successful adults and not white-despising ingrates.

    • Disagree: 3g4me
  63. I checked on the author: not hot, not worth phony sympathy to lay.

    If you’re going to adopt a non-White, Go Asian. Benefits in every category except their being able to safely drive you around later on.

  64. Twinkie says:
    @Steve Sailer

    My vague impression back in the 1990s was that white husband/black wife couples tended to be pretty genteel, while black male/white female couples (who didn’t always make it to the altar) tended to be pretty rough.

    WMBF couples do slightly better than WMWF couples, but much better than BMWF couples.

    • Replies: @Jon
  65. @YetAnotherAnon

    somewhat off topic, but Decca Aitkenhead, who like her mother got breast cancer (but survived), is full of handy hints for people undergoing chemo, and for women facing hair/brows/lashes loss.

    Apparently fasting for 3 days prior to chemo and 1 day after, as recommended by this guy

    https://gero.usc.edu/faculty/longo/

    Not only makes chemo more effective but reduces side effects

    But to have been spared the toxic intensity of the immediate aftermath of each round was miraculous, and going without food a tiny price to pay for such an astonishing dividend. I wasn’t even tempted to eat. Friends assumed it must have been hellishly hard to live on water for four days, but nothing could have induced me to break each fast. To feel merely dead, as opposed to hideously ill and dead, felt like a lottery win.

    https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/jun/03/how-to-get-through-chemotherapy-decca-aitkenhead-cancer-treatment

  66. @R.G. Camara

    I really had no idea black women were so fiending for non-black men to hit on them.

    I had a fairly cute one throw herself at me before a lecture back in my undergrad days.

    The attempt was so try-hard it actually put me off.

  67. @black sea

    And she sounds about as messed up as Kap. In both cases these people received everything of value from white people, but feel a sense of loyalty to the black rapist/sperm donor that abandoned them before they were born. Go figure…

    Maybe black families should adopt more of the black babies available for adoption. And white people should be giving birth to more white children.

  68. Twinkie says:
    @anonymous

    Cross-racial adoptions should never have been allowed to begin with. The kids end up being mixed up psychologically. In this case the black ends up being a stereotypical chronic complainer with a sense of entitlement and no gratitude.

    “Cross-“ is not the issue, the issue is the race of the adopted. For example, research has shown that East Asian (specifically, Korean) children adopted by white parents adjust better (after initial difficulty) than even white children adopted by whites parents.

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-is-the-black-woman-accusing-charlie-rose-of-racism-for-not-sexually-harassing-her/#comment-2126152

    • LOL: 3g4me
  69. The “tragic mulatto” trope is making a comeback.

  70. The Post has another execrable opinion piece today, by one Amani Al-Khatahtbeh, in which she writes: “being an immigrant worker is often harrowing in a society that deems brown and Black bodies as disposable.” She complains about two crimes, both committed by Black people, although she neglects to mention that. What is this business about “bodies”? Did Ta-Nehisi Coates start this nonsense? In any case, the Post seems determined to provoke a race war. All I want is to stop hearing its crap.

    • Replies: @photondancer
  71. Arclight says:

    Not surprising. We have a culture that encourages people to be upset about any aspect of their life that comes up short of the ideal rather than grateful for what they do have.

    And frankly, this really sounds like a person that just doesn’t like herself very much and wants to pin the blame on others.

    • Replies: @Jack D
  72. @Anon

    Former pro football player Scott Fujita was a White who was adopted by a Japanese/White couple.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Fujita

    But yeah, that’s about as close an example I can think of.

  73. Jack D says:

    Shoulda left her in foster care in the ghetto with some black couple that was doing it for the money. That would have learned her good. F’ing ingrate.

    I’ve come to believe that gratitude is not an actual human emotion except in rare cases – it’s mainly something that you read about in books. Human’s normal psychological response is to bite the hand that feeds them. Psychologically, this is much easier than being grateful, which would imply that you owe the people who took you out of the gutter and raised you with such love and kindness with a debt. If OTOH, these people were dirty racists then you can turn your back on them and you owe them nothing. Paradoxically, these means that the nicer you are to people the more likely that it is that they are going to hate you for helping them.

    This also explains why you can never win in such a situation. If you read her litany of complaints, if her adoptive parents had done just the opposite in each instance, she would have twisted that around to be bad also. My parents were too attentive, they were not attentive enough. They told me that Black is beautiful too often, they never told me that Black is beautiful. Heads I win, tails you lose.

  74. Aardvark says:
    @Polistra

    I will pick on #6 as an illustration that nothing will ever satisfy them.

    First, military service is not presently mandatory in this country, so I’m not sure how you can be exempt from something that is not mandatory.

    In the past there have been complaints that blacks are over represented in the military. I think I saw a figure once that blacks were 18% of the military while they are only 13% of the population.

    OK, so what to do? We stop recruiting blacks until the level falls back to 13%? Then there will be howls about blacks being denied an opportunity to escape the inner city, learn a skill and on and on.

    Stop recruiting blacks altogether? I think the same result will occur, someone will lament about this as well.

    Leave things as is? Nope, not happy with that. Then what the hell do they exactly want?

  75. Jack D says:
    @Twinkie

    This is purely a function of IQ (it ain’t culture because adopted kids don’t come with culture). The smarter you are, the better able you are to adapt to a new situation. “Adjust” means that you are presented with a novel situation and that you are able to process that situation and change your behavior in an appropriate way that leads to a good outcome for you – this is pretty much the definition of IQ. BTW, by this definition, Chauvin was not very smart.

    Asian adoptees are the smartest group of adoptees so therefore they are the most well adjusted on average (though there are some very unhappy Korean adoptees in rare cases – they move back to Korea as adults, they seek out their birth mothers, etc.). They are the smartest not just for racial reasons but also because of selection effects – adoptees tend to come from low IQ strata but Asian adoptees less so.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  76. Paul Rise says:

    My wife and I often discussed adopting a child as a way to give something back, but quickly realized that an African ancestry child would be most likely available. 15 years ago we didn’t even think about this, it wouldn’t have stopped us. But gradually, over time, we stopped discussing it, it wasn’t an option anymore. We both know why.

  77. Bugg says:

    My son is now finishing his 4th year at a college in rural Massachussets. He also was on the football team, so we have traveled around a number of towns across New England. Despite the liberal woke silliness of the populace, the towns are beautiful and the people are pleasant. The population is overwhlemingly white the more north and west you go. Growing up there no matter what color you are is comparatively idyllic compared to growing up in East New York or Newark. Spent a few nights in Manchester; appeared if superficially to be a very pleasant if quiet and boring suburb typical of many northeastern towns. And had the author been adopted by some project-dwelling family, her life would have been signifcantly worse than the one she is living. And probably actually “harrowing” as opposed to this woke pretend pose.

    • Replies: @Ripple Earthdevil
  78. @Jack D

    I agree with what you wrote, but couldn’t those three paragraphs be condensed into “no good deed goes unpunished” ?

  79. Twinkie says:
    @Jack D

    This is purely a function of IQ

    Not “purely” in all likelihood. Tendency for conformity/compliance probably plays a role as well.

    Asian adoptees are the smartest group of adoptees

    I would speculate so, but I haven seen any data to this effect, so I wouldn’t assert it with certainty.

    though there are some very unhappy Korean adoptees in rare cases – they move back to Korea as adults, they seek out their birth mothers, etc.

    Rare is the operative word. A large majority identifies as the nationality of the adoptive country (e.g. Danish in Denmark) and not even as hyphenated (e.g. Korean-Danish).

    selection effects – adoptees tend to come from low IQ strata but Asian adoptees less so.

    That is what I speculated in that earlier thread I cited:

    https://www.unz.com/isteve/who-is-the-black-woman-accusing-charlie-rose-of-racism-for-not-sexually-harassing-her/#comment-2127101

  80. AndrewR says:
    @black sea

    Hawaii is quite different from NH. I wonder if Barack would be more or less anti-white if he had grown up only around whites.

    • Replies: @guest007
  81. anonymous[470] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polistra

    We want all black men to be exempt from military service.

    The AFQT is used by the military to screen enlisted recruits. A very high percentage of blacks who take the test are ineligible for enlisting because of the AFQT compared to whites. 41% compared to 16% in 2010 according to this foundation: https://edtrust.org/press-release/shut-out-of-the-military-more-than-one-in-five-recent-high-school-graduates-is-not-academically-qualified-to-enlist-in-the-u-s-army/

    The black campus activists are themselves so far removed from the military in terms of family and friend connections serving in the military that they can’t understand it would be in the black community’s interest to get military enlistment standards relaxed. Virtually all enlisted personnel in the USAF have test scores above the 50th percentile. The vast majority of blacks in America are excluded from plushy non-dangerous USAF careers. Black activists should actually be as outraged about it as firefighter tests.

    • Replies: @anon
  82. Twinkie says:
    @Jack D

    I’ve come to believe that gratitude is not an actual human emotion except in rare cases – it’s mainly something that you read about in books. Human’s normal psychological response is to bite the hand that feeds them. Psychologically, this is much easier than being grateful

    Disagree. Gratitude is quite common in normal human cultures. Try tipping or saying kind words to service people in Japan and Korea and see what happens. The problem is that out American culture has become extremely distorted and sick. Victim-(self-)worship is so salient these days that people no longer express gratitude and instead revel in resentment.

    Who is responsible for this culture of resentment and ingratitude?

    • Agree: kaganovitch
    • Thanks: William Badwhite
    • Replies: @plannumber9
  83. AndrewR says:
    @R.G. Camara

    Kaep, like this woman, has a white birth mother. Half black people are genetically white enough that if you raise them in a white environment they’ll basically just become tanned whites, but our society incentives these people to think of themselves as Black and oppressed.

    • LOL: 3g4me
  84. AndrewR says:
    @Anon

    I had a good black friend whose very Afrocentric mother fostered two teenage boys from Guatemala.

  85. If we could just break away from “the news of the world” for a moment I’d like to remind us of a time when the written word was pre-eminent.

    I’ve been listening (irony) to Neil Postman’s “Amusing ourselves to death” and have been wondering if the Flynn Effect is correlated to the onset of full-blown TV?

    The first is that at no point do I care to claim that changes in media bring about changes in the structure of people’s minds or changes in their cognitive capacities. There are some who make this claim, or come close to it (for example, Jerome Bruner, Jack Goody, Walter Ong, Marshall McLuhan, Julian Jaynes, and Eric Havelock).7 I am inclined to think they are right, but my argument does not require it.

    What we are living through is the collapse of our civilisation brought about by the medium by which we communicate.

    We are consuming ourselves to death on account of the need of corporations to profiteer from our every moment – in the future evry person aspires to a photoshopped embodiment of a Kardashian.

    In the future, reality will be replaced by Deepfake and we will cease to exist as a civilisation by entering up our own arsehole.

    Whatver you think, it doesn’t matter because we are reading people, we are typeset peopel as Postman calls us, our day is doen and run. We are replaced with image people, whose only means of communications is through a hockey stick like ever escalating like projection of human beauty by which no benchmark can withstand and on this final perfect point will the last man and woman not consumte the deal.

  86. “your Black adopted child as a grown Black adult who calls out systemic racism”

    The artistic, genteel adopters lost their cool when the angry black woman came of age and began trashing their peaceful New England ways.

    That’s when they told her to hit the road.

    It could have been worse:

    During the early morning hours of March 31 2020, two joggers came upon the bodies of Dr. Beth Potter and her husband, Robin Carre, lying off the roadway in the University of Wisconsin Arboretum and covered in blood, police said.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/wisconsin-couple-killed-execution-style-daughters-boyfriend-police/story?id=70030343

  87. @Steve Sailer

    As a percentage of their race, black women tend to also have higher abortion rates than white women of same age and income levels. In other words, black women aren’t having as many children as they could have.

    Also of note:

    “Everything changed when she met her BIRTH mother, a young WHITE woman,”

    Why isn’t this being emphasized more? According to her book’s blurb, her birth mother was WHITE. This makes Miss. Carroll a mulatto, who in black culture, wouldn’t automatically be embraced with open arms if she spent her youth in the hood. Colorism at its finest and she’d have payed a price. Anyone care to bet that Miss. Becky doesn’t speak Ebonics either? Sounds like she took a note out of the Obama playbook, to milk microaggressions for all its worth.

    So this Becky has a white name, raised in a white world (and in NH of all places) and had a white birth parent, making her half-white. Chances are her first boyfriends were white as well. After going through the usual growing pangs of partying, drinking, etc. that 20somethings experience nowadays, she suddenly “discovered” that it’s far more profitable to write about her alleged oppression of growing up black in big, bad, whitetopian NH. And for that she got a book deal out of it. After all, for NY savy book agents and publishers, New Hampshire is about as evil and racist as it gets, the poor dear managing to survive the cultural shock, no wonder she turned out the way that she did.

    • Replies: @Anon
  88. We are not magic because you adopted us; we are magic because our ancestors saw us coming and stayed with us in our spirits.

    I think she’s talking about spooks.

  89. Anon7 says:

    And finally, I am not discouraging transracial adoption.

    We have some white friends who adopted and raised a black boy. They’re very nice people.

    After trying to help him have a future for about 25 years, he made it through high school but really couldn’t manage any sort of college or vocational schooling. He’s now doing something vague involving dance and awareness, performing before primary school kids or something like that. They subsidize his independent living, if that makes sense.

    They had a difficult time. They’ve finally accepted that they just don’t understand him at all. It’s as if oil and water don’t mix, even if you really work at it.

    • Replies: @3g4me
  90. guest007 says:

    To put things into context.

    Ms Carroll attended Hampshire College, a less than 1200 SAT colege with 1200 undergraduates that is around 75% white and 2/3 women. https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebcarroll http://www.collegeresults.org/collegeprofile.aspx?institutionid=166018

    Ms. Carroll is/was married to a white male who is a college professor. https://www.ebony.com/love-relationships/in-appreciation-of-the-lovings-45-years-of-legal-interracial-marriage/

    She has at least one child who look more Jewish than black
    https://newengland.com/yankee-magazine/living/profiles/rebecca-carroll-growing-up-black-in-new-england/

    Conclusion, she always wanted to live as a black women but realized early in life than staying in the majority white careers/schools/social groups was a much easier path to success.

  91. fnn says:
    @anonymous

    African Elephants are rapidly going extinct due to organized poaching and habitat loss. So forget about trophy hunting and worry instead about the ivory trade and high Sub-Saharan fertility rates:

    https://focusingonwildlife.com/news/poachers-are-driving-african-elephants-towards-extinction/

    https://focusingonwildlife.com/news/africas-forest-elephant-has-been-largely-overlooked-now-we-need-to-fight-for-it/

  92. black sea says:
    @Jack D

    People may feel gratitude briefly, but it often curdles into resentment. A lot of people hate feeling beholden to anyone, though obviously we all owe some measure of gratitude to anyone who has exercised a positive influence on our lives, or just helped us out in a jam.

    What I’ve described above certainly isn’t true of everyone, and is rarely true of people one tends to want to be around, but it is nevertheless true of a great many people.

  93. @JohnnyWalker123

    Mustaches, bell-bottoms, jewfros, and disco went out of style. Gabe Kaplan got old…

  94. @Reg Cæsar

    It’s wild they Wesley snipes beat 80 percent of the hearing out of Halle Berry’s ear and no one cared. If you beat the hearing out of someone elses slave you would get at least fined.

  95. Anon[349] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer

    My vague impression is that black women tend to get pregnant more but have a harder time bringing babies to term.

    According to the March of Dimes, full term is 39 weeks to 40 weeks 6 days, which more or less means 40 weeks on average. But modern industrial obstetrics has redefined full term at 37 weeks and up. It’s pretty common for the doctor to take a woman’s blood pressure at 37 weeks, make a worried facial expression, and then tell her it’s best to induce labor with the magic milkshake, because maybe there’s a risk of preeclampsia. This gets the delivery in on a weekday during working hours. So the March of Dimes has been on a jihad to get “normal” back to 39 weeks where it should be:

    Two good reasons to just wait and delivery natually are:

    Research shows that the fetus goes through a significant amount of lung, liver, and brain development between 37 weeks and 39 weeks of pregnancy.

    Your due date could be off by up to 2 weeks, which means if you have your baby before 39 weeks you could be having it early.

    For black women, 38 weeks may be equivalent to 39, which might be why they seem to not bring babies to term. On the other hand, black women are genuninely (not make believe) at high risk for preeclampsia. But two weeks early delivery can mean weakened lung function and, one source says, 5 points of IQ.

    =====

    The story I read about the Pioneer Fund was that when Rushton died, his son was his executor. This accounts for the weird decade-late issuance of Rushton’s autobiography. His son, who is an academic education professor (woke?) took the $3 million Pioneer balance, founded a new nonprofit to give unprivileged kids yacht rides in Florida, funded with $2 million, and gave the remainder of $1 million to Richard Lynn to continue the fund. This seems like it might be a legal violation of the trusteeship of Pioneer, but on the other hand, who’s going to sue him, and especially in Canada. I think Rushton fils was atoning for the sins of his Hitleresque father, or at least wanted to create an audit trail/alibi if the cancellation crew came after him.

  96. @notsaying

    I am sure she will discourage some good people from adopting a child of another race and cause some kids to never be adopted. Does she think that is a good thing? Would she have preferred that herself?

    Sadly, I suspect that her attitude was influenced largely by what she knew would sell in today’s market. Accentuate the negative, eliminate the positive, is today’s hit tune. Black woman grateful to the loving white parents who raised her? No book deal for you.

    As was suggested above, very much like Barack Obama.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    , @YetAnotherAnon
  97. dearieme says:
    @larry lurker

    She could always have compromised by learning the meaning of itinerant.

    Mind you I liked conversancy. Is she using it as a posh alternative to a more familiar word or has she just confused it with something else? God knows.

    Our hair is revelatory Pah! She likes a polysyllabic word, eh? Especially when it makes little sense in context.

    I suspect her message is that you shouldn’t adopt a black child because she’ll just grow up to have a chip on her shoulder. Which anyone sensible might have guessed anyway.

  98. Cortes says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    “When Elizabeth knights Sir Francis Drake, on 4 April 1581 on the deck of the Golden Hind, she gives him a present of a locket: on the inside is a miniature portrait of herself by Nicholas Hilliard and, on the outside, an image of a black man engraved in sardonyx, set in gold and surrounded by pearls, rubies and diamonds.”
    Ian Mortimer “The Time Traveller’s Guide to Elizabethan England” (2012) Chapter 4.

    Virgin Queen?

  99. Anon[162] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara

    whites, East Asians, Indians, Native Americans

    Why didn’t you capitalize “Whites”?

  100. ic1000 says:
    @Harry Baldwin

    Rebecca has built her identity around a contradictory motte-and-bailey application of the One Drop Rule. This evil concept was used by racists to cheat My People out of what they deserve. At the same time, despite my mother being white, I am Black. Not mixed-race. Not (up to) half-black. Not “it’s complicated.”

    Genetics doesn’t matter, except when it does. Race matters, except when it doesn’t.

    You owe me.

  101. Bill B. says:

    OT (a bit)

    If you thought the Tory right had pulled off a masterstroke by taking in the population of Hong Kong prepared to be disabused:

    https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3128430/bno-passport-holders-fleeing-hong-kong-should-know-britain-has

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
  102. @notsaying

    She has done well for herself.

    “Rebecca Carroll is a writer, editor…15 essential conversations about race…and she’s the author of several books about race in America, including the award-winning Sugar in the Raw: Voices of Young Black Girls in America. Her memoir, Surviving the White Gaze”

    I give her credit for wandering outside of the usual Black Writer comfort zone and touching on something original. Going where “no negro has gone before” so to speak.

    They usually cover such a wide variety of topics, it can be hard to find a BlAcK writer willing to address the tough stuff – race.

  103. @Steve Sailer

    “Bringing babies to term.”

    Do you mean abortion? Because yes, blacks have lots of abortions. Or do you mean miscarriages and still births? I’m not sure I’d lump those all together since that’s a mixture of natural death and murder.

  104. Jack D says:
    @Arclight

    Unfortunately, Rebecca Carroll appears to resemble her (apparently totally absent sperm donor) father in more ways than just race:

    https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/scheer-intelligence/rebecca-carroll-writing-as-a-way-to-figure-things-out/@@images/rectangular_image/page-header?v=1498768659.31

    This could not have helped her self-image growing up with all those cute blond NH girls.

  105. Jack D says:
    @YetAnotherAnon

    Not all black women are interested in dating white men but upscale black women (e.g. Kamala Harris) often are. Imagine that you are a black woman at an other than historically black college and are not a Hotep type black. You see your white/Asian/Latino friends dating up a storm with men of other races, especially handsome white men. But for some reason (maybe because you resemble your linebacker sperm donor daddy instead of your white mother) none of these men of other races ever ask you out.

  106. Hertog says:
    @anonymous

    Moar! Gimme moar of it! Cruel Trump man friend so cruel!

    • Replies: @anonymous
  107. @Harry Baldwin

    “her attitude was influenced largely by what she knew would sell in today’s market”

    The publishing industry also influences that, along with Hollywood and TV. Your book on your nice white foster parents won’t sell if it’s not published.

    Tales of nice white people aren’t popular with any of them, unless they’re the *saintly and oppressed* demographic.

  108. Try getting conversancy past spellcheck.

    When an adoptee informs its loving parents that it intends to find its biological parent(s), that must usually make the parent feel pretty lousy.

    • Disagree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
  109. 3g4me says:
    @Anon

    @14 Anon[314] : “It occurred to me recently that I’ve never in my life come across a non-white couple who adopted a kid of another race. There must be examples, but I’ve never seen or even heard of them.”

    https://www.the-sun.com/news/2289967/food-network-star-beat-adopted-daughter-tweeted-white-privilege/

  110. 3g4me says:
    @Twinkie

    @56 Twinkie: “Cross-“ is not the issue, the issue is the race of the adopted. For example, research has shown that East Asian (specifically, Korean) children adopted by white parents adjust better (after initial difficulty) than even white children adopted by whites parents.

    https://www.npr.org/2019/12/27/775355015/feeling-like-we-belong-u-s-adoptees-return-to-south-korea-to-trace-their-roots

    https://time.com/5948949/anti-asian-racism-white-adoptive-family/

    https://www.npr.org/2021/03/27/981269559/am-i-asian-enough-adoptees-struggle-to-make-sense-of-spike-in-anti-asian-violenc

    https://sahe.colostate.edu/asian-american-transracial-adoptees-identity-development-in-college/

  111. Alfa158 says:
    @black sea

    Anecdotally at least, it seems that Mulattoes are even more hostile to White people than Blacks are.
    I wonder if there is some buried resentment because one of their parents made a poor choice and thereby deprived them of the opportunity to be White, so they take it out on all Whites. Every time someone like her looks in a mirror they are reminded of who they could have been if not for. Hard to say for sure, as John Derbyshire points out a not insignificant portion of Blacks have a glowing, molten-hot hatred of White people so it may be difficult to establish if there is indeed an actual quantitative difference.
    Some brave person at the end of their career anyway, and therefore willing to flush it down the drain, should do a scientific study to test my hypothesis. It would also probably be a good idea if this person dislikes their friends, family and colleagues and won’t mind having to find new ones.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  112. Look, she talks a lot of nonsense, and her writing is crap, but she’s expressing something that’s real and profound. Added to all the issues of being adopted, being the only black kid in a white town must be tough. And she can’t close the door and take comfort in a black family. Have a little sympathy.

    And maybe trans-racial adoption isn’t in the best interests of the kid.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
  113. @Jack D

    Obama’s daughter Malia could be a case in point.

    According to tabloid scuttlebutt the Obama parents are quite pleased that she is dating a very wealthy young Englishman with aristocratic connections, as before she had met him in her freshman year at Harvard, they had been distinctly unimpressed by her choice of friends and associates.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    , @AnotherDad
  114. Altai says:
    @JohnnyWalker123

    Between 1967 and 1974 Ashkenazi producers, writers and directors had a lot of affairs with beautiful Hollywood actresses, no one understands why it happened but it did and we’re living in it’s wake.

  115. Altai says:

  116. anon[360] • Disclaimer says:

    Poor, poor, pitiful moi! Pity me! Buy my book! But don’t stop my pity party!

    I wonder, truly wonder, if it is even possible for a woman in the Current Year to write anything that doesn’t gradually drift into yet another long, drawn out solipsistic whine?

  117. Dear Rebecca Carroll:

    Some things in life are bad
    They can really make you mad
    Other things just make you swear and curse
    When you’re chewing on life’s gristle
    Don’t grumble, give a whistle
    And this’ll help things turn out for the best

    And always look on the bright side of life
    Always look on the light side of life

    If life seems jolly rotten
    There’s something you’ve forgotten
    And that’s to laugh and smile and dance and sing
    When you’re feeling in the dumps
    Don’t be silly chumps
    Just purse your lips and whistle, that’s the thing

  118. AndrewR says:
    @anonymous

    She is a mulatta so unless you’re suggesting only a mixed couple or mulatto parents should be allowed to adopt her then this isn’t exactly a “cross racial” adoption

  119. @Jack D

    She’s handled it better then philip Roth did growing up around all those blue eyed northeastern WASP jocks.

  120. ATBOTL says:
    @Redneck farmer

    I think we have moved away from a concept of African/European hybrids being “biracial.” Obama identified solely as black, despite being half white and raised by his white family.

  121. kihowi says:
    @Polistra

    I love it. Blackness distilled to its essence. Baksheesh!

  122. AndrewR says:
    @Jonathan Mason

    Meanwhile Sasha is on TikTok singing X rated rap songs. Regression to the mean.

  123. Alden says:

    I wonder if this is the daughter of a White woman who was all over the internet about 20 years ago witching and whining about raising a black part black child in an all White New Hampshire town. The mother wrote she and husband were ultra liberals worried about over population thought the right thing to do was adopt a White child and firmly believed there would be no problems raising a visibly black child in an all Whute town.

    The mother endlessly complained about dealing with her daughter’s hair. There are no hair dressers in town who know what to do. Well, why didn’t the mother find out how to deal with black girls hair? Black women do talk with White women about black hair.

    And really, how difficult is it to part the hair into 6 or 8 sections depending on how thick it is, gently comb it out and braid it? I mean, people learn how to do carpentry and cabinet work, electrical work, minor car repairs sew a button on , knit crochet and embroider, how hard can it be to wash comb part and braid hair even if it is dry, kinky and tangled? Ebony and Essence magazines had fashion hair and make up articles for black women long before the internet.

    ,If the liberal mother went to the trouble to adopt a black girl, she could have spent a week in Boston at black hair salons learning how to braid hair. Call them. Explain you’re White and need help. Make an appointment for the first wash and braid Pay the price and tip well. If the first person you call seems hostile call the next one on the list. Let them assume you’re the natural mother or tell the hairdresser the kids adopted. Buy a supply of wide tooth combs, elastic bands, cute beads and barrettes and hair goo to take home. Black moms manage to take care of the girls hair.

    I really wonder if this whiny witch is the daughter of the New Hampshire White witch whining about her daughter’s black hair 20 years ago. That mother was awful. Adopt a kid and complain about the kids hair.

    We’re a nation of complainers. I live in a food desert the nearest supermarket is a mile and a half away poor poor pitiful pathetic me. . I need a social worker to pour some cereal and milk in a bowl for my kids. Shocked and surprised my black daughter has black hair And now the daughter is complaining.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @stillCARealist
    , @anon
  124. AndrewR says:
    @Jack D

    She mistakes her complete lack of Pretty Privilege for a lack of “white privilege”

    • Replies: @photondancer
  125. “you have decided that it’s okay for you to live your life, every single day, until your dying breath, without seeing another Black person. Here is a hard truth: Parenting comes with sacrifices.”

    So, she admits that having to associate with her people is a definite sacrifice?

    • Replies: @Sick 'n Tired
  126. @Jack D

    Shoulda left her in foster care in the ghetto with some black couple that was doing it for the money. That would have learned her good. F’ing ingrate.

    It is indeed this, that makes her whining so repulsive. It’s not like there was this vast cornucopia of choices on the menu, maybe she would have been adopted by the royal family of Wakanda or Lebron James or whatever. There were exactly two choices ; Institutional upbringing – and I might add, not exactly the Harvard-Westlake of orphanages – or the adoption by ,what by her own admission ,was loving White parents. Instead of thanking God every day that she lucked out, she’s bitching that they didn’t have a black hairdresser in rural New Hampshire. The mind boggles.

    • Agree: Twinkie
  127. res says:
    @anonymous

    As notsaying said, that is a good question. Even more so if one takes into account which parents and other relatives were present during the formative years.

  128. It says her childhood became “harrowing” after she met her white birth mother. My question is whether she ever met her birth father. I bet that would have been harrowing.

  129. @Jack D

    Unfortunately, Rebecca Carroll appears to resemble her (apparently totally absent sperm donor) father in more ways than just race:

    https://www.kcrw.com/culture/shows/scheer-intelligence/rebecca-carroll-writing-as-a-way-to-figure-things-out/@@images/rectangular_image/page-header?v=1498768659.31

    This could not have helped her self-image growing up with all those cute blond NH girls

    A good chunk of someone’s looks has to do with packaging. That’s why The Donald spent significant sums on a toupee, despite having been born with much better looks than his parents or siblings. This lady has a hairdo that indicates she doesn’t care about the way she looks. Some people are like that. Pamela Anderson and Julia Robertson are examples of women with average looks who primped (and maybe other things) their way to stardom. This lady isn’t even trying. Maybe it’s the standard issue excessively elevated black self-esteem (applied to the looks department) rearing its ugly head here.

  130. usNthem says:

    It really is amazing how naively idiotic do gooder libtards are. Nine times out of ten, nothing they do for their trophy adoptee will ever be good enough – especially in this age of woke insanity and negro idolatry. Just like the reparations scam, no amount will ever be enough. Whites are and always will be to blame for all negro problems and if the majority doesn’t figure this out soon, you can kiss it all goodbye – as a matter of fact, it’s probably too late anyway.

  131. Matttt says:

    We are not magic because you adopted us; we are magic because our ancestors saw us coming and stayed with us in our spirits.

    Daddy left, but his ancestors hung around? I guess her white birth mother’s ancestors are elsewhere, probably at a heavenly country club.

  132. joe_mama says:
    @Polistra

    Holy crap. It’s demanding to be leeches on society and incur none of the burden.

  133. SafeNow says:

    “People may feel gratitude briefly, but it often curdles into resentment. A lot of people hate feeling beholden to anyone”

    Sometimes even brief gratitude is lacking. Resentment does not need time to curdle. During Hurricane Katrina, many victims punched their Coast Guard rescuers in the face. A good metaphor.

    The woke U.S. culture is the proverbial punch in the face. Blinken right away punches the Chinese in the face at Anchorage. Baseball moves the Allstar game to quickly punch Georgia in the face. The impetuous punch in the face is a dangerous default mode in the nuclear age.

  134. Forbes says:
    @Jorge Videla

    Little Recent Commenting History

    Makes sense…

  135. Forbes says:
    @anonymous

    the black ends up being a stereotypical chronic complainer with a sense of entitlement and no gratitude.

    And this is different than typical how…

  136. joe_mama says:
    @Sick 'n Tired

    I’ve had friends who’ve adopted and gone through the process. The reality is is there’s a surplus of black and minority kids. They’re just more of them being made and more likely to be put up for adoption period.

    And the adopters tend to skew white and have their act together. As the adoption process is very expensive, and you’re put through tons of hoops and character interviews to even qualify.

    White liberals have this notion going in that there must be tons of white kids up for adoption that came from a nice middle class family. After all, television teaches us that those WASP middle class girls are super promiscuous and irresponsible right? Of course that’s not the case, white kids in the system are far outnumbered by black and minorities.

  137. Lord, these pale, mud-colored graceless mongrels. It seems the lighter the skin, the harder they black – at least in writing (heritage of their Anglo side?); while the inky blacks black with their fists, knives and guns.

  138. @Twinkie

    “Cross-“ is not the issue, the issue is the race of the adopted. For example, research has shown that East Asian (specifically, Korean) children adopted by white parents adjust better (after initial difficulty) than even white children adopted by whites parents.

    That’s not the impression I get from listening to any Korean adoptees talk about their upbringing and identity:

    [MORE]




    • Agree: 3g4me
    • Replies: @Twinkie
  139. @Alfa158

    Anecdotally at least, it seems that Mulattoes are even more hostile to White people than Blacks are.

    This phenomenon appears in all sorts of fields. The people who hate Mensa aren’t those of average or below intelligence, but those in the close-but-no-cigar range just below. Some even formed a group called Densa. I💩U➰.

    • Replies: @Matt Buckalew
  140. Jack D says:
    @kaganovitch

    I think you are giving our friend here, Clever Hans, too much credit. Probably the laptop that he “found” one day has a broken Shift key. Or perhaps he is too lazy to bother with capitalization. You might say that he is shiftless.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  141. Forbes says:
    @Jack D

    Paradoxically, these means that the nicer you are to people the more likely that it is that they are going to hate you for helping them.

    Perhaps it is a paradox that, conditioned on being nice, some will hate you. But in general, helping people with your generosity will turn them resentful towards you, as it highlights your capabilities (or superiority), and their neediness and shortcomings (one’s subordinate position in the relationship). Biting the hand that feeds you is a cliché for good reason.

  142. @Jack D

    This could not have helped her self-image growing up with all those cute blond NH girls.

    Nor could a rural “Noo Hayampsha ayeccent” have helped in her dealings with blacks, except as a comic ice-breaker.

    Anyone know of a voice recording of hers? The only (east-of-the-Connecticut) New England accent I’ve ever heard coming from a black person was in a TV interview with a high-school hockey coach in Boston. That was decades ago.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  143. CCZ says:
    @Jack D

    Her interview in Yankee Magazine is “revealing” (of the many “adversities’ of her life in New Hampshire). Worth reading to see the full extent of her grievances. Some excerpts below (J.K. is the white liberal male interviewer):

    Rebecca Carroll: My parents are artists. They met at the Museum School in Boston, and they were married very, very young and started a family right away. They were idealistic. They were hippies, really. Not in a traditional sense…but they were very much leaning toward, you know, Let’s all just love each other, and We can work it out, and Love is the way.

    J.K.: They had two biological kids before thinking about adoption. How did you become a Carroll?

    J.K.: At the same time I was reading your book I was also reading some essays by James Baldwin, and two of his lines jumped out at me: “Blacks in this country are schooled in adversity long before white people are” and “The children of the despised and rejected are menaced from the moment they stir in the womb.” And I think they stood out to me because your parents, in failing to understand how important race is in America, were not able to protect you from what was coming. You just rolled completely unprepared into being Black in America.

    R.C.: Exactly. Did you read the story I wrote in The Atlantic about a near-drowning experience I had?

    J.K.: No, what happened?

    R.C.: I was about 7. There was this lake that we would go to, a local lake with lots of families. And one day an older girl who was a friend of my sister’s—she would have been about 11—asked me if I wanted to go out to the deep water. I couldn’t swim; I just mostly played around. And I knew that young kids weren’t supposed to go out to the deep end. But I thought it was very cool that she was interested in me. I thought it was exciting, the idea of going out to the deep water. So she had me on her hip, and she carried me out, and when we got to the deep water she dropped me and I almost drowned.

    What I did not know until about six months ago was that when she came out of the water, leaving me to drown, she called me a n—-r.

    My sister heard it, but she never told me. It didn’t even make it into the memoir because I’d already written it when I found out. That is a testament to living an entire life, and writing an entire memoir, and then discovering that a childhood incident that I thought was just a near-drowning was actually a hate crime. A racist attack.

    J.K.: In your book there’s a story about your fifth-grade teacher that’s even worse than that.

    R.C.: So, my friend Leah was my best friend from birth. And one afternoon at recess, my teacher was on duty, and we went to ask her how much more time we had to play. And she said, “You’ve got a few more minutes. You should be fine.” And then it just—it happened so quickly. She looked at Leah and she said, “You’re a very pretty girl, Leah.” I remember looking at Leah and just thinking, She is. And then the teacher looked at me and she said, “And you’re very pretty, too, for a Black girl.” And then there was this pause. And then she said, “Because most Black girls—ick—very unattractive,” and she scrunched up her face. And I remember thinking, Ooooh, wow, this is not good. Leah and I looked at each other. We didn’t really even know what to make of it. So we just turned around and ran back down to play.

    But that was the moment. That was the turning point for me, for sure. It felt like coming out and seeing the tires slashed on your car. Like everything I know about my mobility and my agency has been slashed.

    J.K.: You were a popular kid, and you worked to get in with that crowd. But when you even acknowledged your own race, things got weird.

    R.C.: That’s right. I was really ambitious. I didn’t want to just be in Warner, New Hampshire, my whole life. I wanted agency. I wanted to taste self-confidence. I wanted to know what that felt like. And because I didn’t have a Black parent to say, “You have to work twice as hard”—which you do—I ended up just doing that, and feeling really resentful about it, but also knowing that it was the only way.

    J.K.: After a school trip to D.C. where you spent time with some Black students from another school, one of your white friends snapped at you, “Oh, what? You’re Black now?” Which suggests: What did he think you were before that?

    R.C.: These popular white kids decided how they would see me. And that’s the white gaze. Not only did they decide how to see me, but when I decided that I was going to see myself as Black, and asked them to see me as Black, I was met with disdain. It wasn’t even like, “Oh, OK, Beck. You’re Black. Whatever.” It was like, “Why would you want to be Black?”

    https://newengland.com/yankee-magazine/living/profiles/rebecca-carroll-growing-up-black-in-new-england/

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
  144. BB753 says:

    “Adopted at birth by artistic parents who believed in peace, love, and zero population growth (…)”

    Ok, I get it. She was raised by a couple of liberal morons, which is why deep down, she hates her foster parents. It’s not the whiteness that she should resent but the “liberal” gaze.

  145. Muggles says:
    @notsaying

    I wonder if there is a similar literary oeuvre by authors who considered themselves “white” (even when, as in this case they were only 50%) but were raised by two black parents in a mainly black community?

    If these exist, would they be full of loving accounts of childhood and accomplishments like good education and morals/behavior, yet still full of angry angst about how their “authentic whiteness” was cruelly suppressed?

    There may be such people (whites raised by blacks culturally, etc.) but I don’t know about books. Of course good luck finding a publisher for them.

    If sufficiently negative, you might find a hardcore white nationalist outfit willing to self publish it. Even that is doubtful. The FBI guys running those groups probably aren’t looking for literary output.

    Two things to note: First her self loving account of getting in “touch” with her spiritual ancestors who somehow animate her today. Despite the fact that at least half of these as she later discovered were just horrible white people (White!). So at least her biracial ancestors get along w/o complaint.

    Second, her seeming disgust at meeting her white mother. Oh, the horror! But that still hasn’t stopped her from her mono-subject of me, me, me a Black Woman raised by evil whites! “Look how much I can talk about that, endlessly.” Even though she seems to be, like most white liberal New Hampshire-ites, pretty self-loathing. Most blacks aren’t, so that must be mama talking.

    Sometimes my spiritual ancestors inform me of their genetic longings. But when my Inner Celtic Beserker starts whispering too loudly, I have to take a nap. No book for me I guess.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  146. Anyone know of a voice recording of hers? The only (east-of-the-Connecticut) New England accent I’ve ever heard coming from a black person was in a TV interview with a high-school hockey coach in Boston.

    I knew a young Korean woman who had been adopted by a couple in Georgia while still a baby. She sounded just like Scarlett O’Hara. It was quite disconcerting at first but she was adorable.

  147. Kylie says:

    Tldr: “How sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is
    To have a thankless child!” The blackety-black-black version.

  148. @Muggles

    There may be such people (whites raised by blacks culturally, etc.) but I don’t know about books.

  149. Steve Sailer:

    “Which is why nobody ever asks out East Asian girls”

    You almost never see Asian girls in advertising, or billboards, or on covers of magazines. Even when models are from non-white countres, ther models tend to come from the euro-minority of the population. Perhaps the most extreme example is Brazil. Out of the top of my head, Brazilian supermodels: Giesle Bündchen, Shirley Mallmann, Ana Hickman, etc. As you can from their pictures and surnames, they are quite Euro. The author of this article is right: beauty standards ARE Eurocentric. And this seems to transcend gender. Previously, it was thought that Caucasian characteristics such as light eyes and hair, thin faces and pale skin were only valued in women, but the recent surveys indicates that Caucasian standards are considered the ideal. They asked people of all races to describe their ideal mates. For women, it was the classic stereotype of the blond haired, blue eyed barbie. For men, light eyes were ideal too, except that most people taking part in the survey prefered a light brown hair color for men. White skin was equally valued fior both genders. They surveyed w0men of all races on their prefered race for dating, and white, Asian and Latina women prefered white men. Only black women difered, prefering black men. Latino men came second in preference, fllowed by black men and then Asian men at the bottom of the barrel. Asian men and black women were the least prefered of all.

    The ideal man according to women of all races: 6’1-6’2, medium built, light eyes(hazel to blue), brown hair, light skin, Caucasian facial structure. This is almost the description of the young SEan Connery, except Connery had brown eyes.

  150. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:

    I see DeShaun Watson is getting Deshauned today by Big Corp/Globohomo.

    As ive suggested this is an interesting but anticipated outcome in the intersectionality divisional standings.

    Asian sex workers> Black rapper/baller thugs

  151. CCZ says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Black biological father and white biological mother; white adoptive parents; white husband = maximum black resentment??

    “Mom, Why Is Everyone Here White?” What My Son Knows About Race That I Never Did
    Rebecca Carroll (2014)

    I am always cognizant of the extreme whiteness of Warner (97.9 percent white according to the 2010 U.S. Census Bureau — it felt even whiter growing up) and its neighboring towns whenever I go back to visit, although for some reason this time I felt not simply aware of it, but nearly assaulted by it.

    On our second day, Kofi [her son] and I went out for breakfast with my parents at a hometown restaurant, owned and operated by a local family — the waitress had been a few years behind me in school; the hostess familiar from the post office.

    We had just sat down to look at our menus when Kofi leaned over to me after surveying the other customers in the relatively packed dining area, and whispered, genuinely mystified: “Mom, why is everyone here white?”

    Even as my husband is white and our son is light-skinned brown, he is being raised in New York City where he attends school with kids and teachers from all different racial and ethnic backgrounds; his father is a college professor who teaches courses and writes books about race and the history of the Civil Rights movement; his mother is black and writes about race in the media; his parents have friends who are black and brown and gay and who visit and discuss race and politics openly, rigorously, often.

    http://mybrownbaby.com/2014/01/transracial-adoption-and-race/

    • Replies: @Nicholas Stix
  152. My wife and I are white and we’ve dreamed of adopting a Negro child for many years. After much effort we were able to find a delightful little Black girl with lovely hair.

    After reading this article, my wife called the adoption agency and cancelled the agreement. She explained to the representative that we are now going to look at other races.

    • Agree: Alden
  153. Mr. Blank says:

    Is this the same black lady whose adopted dad won a MacArthur Genius Grant for his paintings of birds?

    • Replies: @CCZ
  154. RonaldB says:
    @Polistra

    My observation of the situation is, if you adopt a kid, raise them completely in your culture. If you adopt black, then raise them as white. Don’t try to mix cultures or introduce them to their “heritage”. A child needs a solid sense of identity. Mixing identities doesn’t cut it. Don’t leave it up to the child. That’s why you’re the parent. If they want to adopt a different identity once they get to be college age, that’s fine. But, children don’t do well when left to make choices that should have been made by their parents.

    A black child in a white environment may find their dating options to be more limited, at least if they’re in a community of self-respecting whites. This should not be a problem. They should be taught to respect people of the opposite sex and to be comfortable in a social situation. By the time they are ready for serious (preparatory to marriage) dating, they should be a catch for quality mates.

    • Agree: Johann Ricke
  155. Clyde says:
    @R.G. Camara

    And it’s not “most other races”. It’s all races. As is consistently displayed by data app data, blacks of both sexes consistently rank lowest in attractiveness.

    I blame the old National Geographic photos for this. Their photos of bare chested, male and female tribal Africans.

  156. Art Deco says:

    This dame is 51 years old.

    It’s a reasonable wager she’s gotten throughout her life a dearth of negative feedback for being self-centered and puerile and now gets paid to be self-centered and puerile.

  157. Jorge Videla [AKA "franz stangl"] says:
    @kaganovitch

    leave the comedy to funny people.

    leave thinking to smart people.

    you were lucky to escape the dzhugashvili’s stare.

    https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=identity+politics&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=26&smoothing=3&direct_url=t1%3B%2Cidentity%20politics%3B%2Cc0

    the great awokening is merely a turning up of the volume. the dem party abandoned the poor, especially the white poor, and instead sold itself to pmc whites and minorities via idpol. the reason why idpol appeals to pmc whites is that many of them suffer status anxiety and think of anything less than woke as lower class, deplorable. they have also been selected by the higher education system, which like mass media is merely an arm of the dem party. all are controlled by the same ethne.

    as inequality has increased, the idpol has had to be turned up to 11.

    idpol allows its slaves to think: “poor whites deserve to be poor, and the only reason some minorites are poor is because powerless poor whites like derek chauvin.” it’s similar to the war on drugs. rather than solve social ills, it’s easier simply to blame their victims.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  158. White people shouldn’t be adopting black babies.

  159. sayless says:

    Were they adopting a child, or Making A Statement? Some of both, probably. “Artistic” parents are probably just as bad as parents who want to “make an impact”.

    Could tend to make the target child mad, I don’t blame her.

  160. Ya know, raising children is an expensive, time-consuming, and difficult job. Like it or not, they become your life’s work. Imagine her parents looking back at all they sacrificed for her and thinking, “Our life’s work was a failure.”

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  161. Anonymous[132] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    That isn’t near as bad as the chinese boiling dogs and cats ALIVE.

  162. Jon says:

    If you don’t want your Black daughter to be labeled an “angry Black woman” as an adult, don’t think that calling her “a spitfire” as a child is innocuous.

    Ginger women must endure these same cruel, life-determining stereotypes as their anagramed black sisters.

  163. Jon says:
    @paum

    She’s only 52, and this is a professional head shot!

    media.wnyc.org/i/raw/1/rcheadshot.jpg

  164. El Dato says:

    BAAOOOOooo~~~oooHHHH

    “THE BLACK MOAN”: A neverending series

    Now every single day on the RealLife(tm) channel!

    Irrespective of whether it’s Black History Month or not Black History Month.

    Look for those special emissions in exclusive “Burning Buildings” Color”!

    Just 1.99 trillion dollars of reparations.

  165. Orphanages got a bad rap, American ones anyway. Their product did 7% better than the average economically. There is no good reason to leave kids to teen mothers on Uncle Sam sugar.

  166. I could never understand a peculiar Anglospheroid cultural trait: every little fuck has to write a memoir. Or any figure of slightest significance must have a biography.

    I don’t get it why.

    In normal, continental Europe your life is something that belongs to you, and, with very few exceptions, there are no biographies, and even less memoirs of truly important people- let alone of some nobodies.

    I’ve skimmed through fake McCourt memoir Angela’s Ashes & was not surprised by its lies. It was the very idea: who the fuck are you to write a whole book about nothing that is your life?

    Even worse, it goes for misery lit of whining of racial groups etc.

  167. @Reg Cæsar

    Yea and the football players shoved your dork ass into lockers because they were afraid you’d steal their girlfriends. Rofl walking wedgie.

  168. Jon says:
    @Twinkie

    So if you are a male who marries outside of your race (regardless of your or your wife’s race), you are slightly wealthier than the males of your race that marry intra-racially? Kind of makes sense if you think of the stereotypical lives of the poorest – never going off to college, never leaving their home neighborhood – they probably marry intra-racially and bring the average down. Plus, interracial marriages are a small sample size. Still, unexpected.

  169. @Polistra

    We don’t want: a job!

    • LOL: Polistra
  170. Twinkie says:
    @Jack D

    This could not have helped her self-image growing up with all those cute blond NH girls.

    Most women and girls in NH are not blonde. NH whites descend mostly from the Irish, English, and French, and the vast majority is made up of brunettes.

    If you want blondes, you go to my wife’s home region – the upper Midwest, which was settled by the Germans and Scandinavians.

    Personally, I think white women from the Midwest and the South are the most attractive, except for the fact that they are more obese on average.

  171. Cross racial adoption should not be allowed. Period.
    The stories of white children murdered by black adoptive “parents” is enough to say NO.
    All the rich Hollywood celebs adopting black kids can go to hell.

  172. Twinkie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Nor could a rural “Noo Hayampsha ayeccent” have helped in her dealings with blacks, except as a comic ice-breaker.

    NH accents are regional, not urban/rural. Heck, the largest city – Manchester – is really a medium size town and the state capital – Concord (the third largest after Nashua) – is smaller than most college towns.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  173. @anonymous

    That’s actually Hunter Biden symbolically killing the Republican Party.

  174. @Twinkie

    NH accents are regional, not urban/rural.

    The Coast Guard sent me to N.E. for most of a year, so I got a quick education in all of them, even realizing that the young man who helped me get from the airport to downtown Seoul was actually visiting from Boston. (“That’s where I’m f’om. How did you know? Oh… the ayaxcent!”)

    Anyway, you and I may not perceive a town-and-country difference, but no doubt the locals would. At least it’s rural in NH and inland Maine, rather than coastal Maine’s wuwaw.

    By the way, if you’re in the market for evidence of anti-Asian tropes, note that on My Little Pony, the yaks are portrayed as crude and aggressive immigrants. A yak farmer told me just yesterday that his were quite docile, though bulls will be bulls.

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  175. 3g4me says:
    @Anon7

    @93 Anon7: “They’ve finally accepted that they just don’t understand him at all. It’s as if oil and water don’t mix, even if you really work at it.”

    Gee, you might even say that genetics have consequences – not merely regarding one’s appearance, but also regarding one’s intellect and personality. Study after study after study has clearly demonstrated that it’s heredity that matters, not environment, but White cucks will continue to contort themselves trying to atone for the genetic and environmental defects of other races.

    Help your own children and people.

  176. @R.G. Camara

    If I were considering adopting a child, I would immediately cross black ones off my list

    or consider the didactic power of raising the creature as a privileged White. Cram them through Uni and everything. Then make sure that they are sent to work for some bleeding-heart “aid” agency in Africa for a few years.

    (move house while they’re over there in Wakanda, don’t tell anyone; happened to a mate of mine, he was at uni and they just forgot to tell him they’d retired to the other end of the island (“high-functioning” academics lol; i.e. gibbering otherworldly fuckwits); bit of a nasty surprise when he came back for the summer, had to sleep in a bus shelter and then slog back to us lot, in our filthy near-squat (rented, ve-e-ery cheaply)).

  177. Elli says:

    In my extended family, in laws included, one Asian girl and one Hispanic girl were knocked up by young black makes who departed the scene and occasionally showed up in their children’s lives. A white male relative is raising alone his mixed race child neglected and abandoned by the black mother.

    Where’s the black responsibility, the onus not to act like cuckoos or ducks dropping eggs and taking off?

  178. @joe_mama

    The reality is is there’s a surplus of black and minority kids.

    If there’s a surplus of Oriental kids, all those people heading out to the Far East, who end up adopting special needs toddlers, are wasting their time.

    • Replies: @Expletive Deleted
  179. CCZ says:
    @Mr. Blank

    Yes:

    My lovely mother, youthful looking at 72, positioned next to my father, less youthful looking at 72, and who had brought his regular stash of vodka in a plastic water bottle, as the barbecue fell squarely during cocktail hour and my father never misses cocktail hour no matter where he is or what the venue.

    He was hunched slightly over his plate, cheeks reddened from the brisk weather and intermittent sips of vodka, affable and delighted as locals came up one after another to chat with the town celebrity. My father, even as we struggled our entire lives to make ends meet, is an artist and naturalist of great integrity, and immeasurable ego, and has always believed in himself and his work above almost all else.

    In 2006, that belief paid off when he received a MacArthur “genius” grant for his environmental research and published books of natural history, followed by a National Book Award nomination a few years later. Subsequently, he was a big fish in a small pond and tended to revel in his standing with great ease. My mother smiled, ever the undying enthusiast and supporter of my father.

    http://mybrownbaby.com/2014/01/transracial-adoption-and-race/

    Also:
    “Black Woman Complains That “Racist” Charlie Rose Didn’t Sexually Harass Her”
    David G. Brown, December 26, 2017

    An ex-producer for fired television presenter Charlie Rose has complained that she was not “sexually harassed” by him due to “racism.”

    “And while many of us on staff were subject to Charlie’s unsolicited shoulder massages and physical intimidation, as he towered above us at a height over six feet tall, the women Charlie preferred and preyed upon—at least that I witnessed—were white. It was an environment that all but erased me, while simultaneously exploiting me as a black woman.” — Rebecca Carroll telling a truly woeful tale of how Charlie Rose didn’t “sexually harass” her, supposedly because she was black

    Rebecca Carroll, who described her so-called experiences as “the only black journalist on staff” for Charlie Rose’s eponymous show, very egotistically positions herself in Esquire as someone who should have been sexually harassed but wasn’t. You be the judge as to how attractive she is….

    She continued: “To be clear, I’m not suggesting it would have been preferable for Charlie to have preyed upon me, too—but rather, his sexualization of white women was a manifestation of gendered power dynamics in the same way that his not sexualizing me was an expression of racialized power dynamics.”

    https://www.returnofkings.com/143999/black-woman-complains-that-racist-charlie-rose-didnt-sexually-harass-her

  180. Cortes says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    It’s the “poor mouth” syndrome:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Béal_Bocht

    The O’Crohan memoir targeted is a fine book. Others may be more deserving of the derision heaped upon them.

  181. Alden says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    Dave Chappell should hear about her and joke about her in his shows. He spent summers in Oberlin Ohio with his father . A White town he enjoyed so much he’s raising his black kids on a farm not far away. During the school year he lived in Washington District of Chocolate with Mom. The contrast between horrible black DC and wonderful White rural Ohio is why he’s raising his kids on a farm in rural Ohio. He stays far away from dangerous black Cleveland and Cincinnati. Cincinnati, another wonderful wonderful 1800 town built by WASPs and German immigrants destroyed by cheap black labor. So many wonderful cities destroyed by blacks.

  182. @Polistra

    I agree with #1.

    “We want the freedom, we want the power, to determine the destiny of our black community.”

    Blacks should be in charge of their own destiny.

    I believe the same for all peoples. George Washington wanted this for Americans. Gandhi wanted it for Indians. Sun Yat sen for the Chinese. Simon Bolivar for Venezuelans. So on and so on.

    American Blacks should have a nation. Then, of course, the rest of this … up to them.

  183. Tab says:

    why do these mostly White Mulattos all identify as Black?

  184. @Alden

    Good eye. I feel like I remember this too.

    Now we know the result: a scarred party animal searching for meaning.

  185. Anonymous[242] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paperback Writer

    You are tone deaf AF.

    • Replies: @Paperback Writer
  186. @Bill B.

    If you thought the Tory right had pulled off a masterstroke by taking in the population of Hong Kong prepared to be disabused:

    https://www.scmp.com/comment/opinion/article/3128430/bno-passport-holders-fleeing-hong-kong-should-know-britain-has

    An English-language Hong Kong paper owned by Chinese megacorp Alibaba tries to discourage its Hong Kong readers from leaving for greener pastures. Quelle surprise. The thing about non-American journalists that will surprise Americans is their relentless nationalism. But they’ll harp on endlessly about how nationalistic American journalists are. Not compared to themselves.

    • Replies: @Bill B.
  187. Redman says:
    @Steve Sailer

    This is still correct IMO.

    Remember “The Jefferson’s” mixed race couple? George would always mock their kids as zebras. But they were clearly of a higher social class than he and Weezie.

  188. @ATBOTL

    We need to do more to put social pressure on white people to not adopt non-white children.

    Well said ATBOTL.

    Seriously people–this gal is right.

    If American middle class whites adopt a kid from the races of any of the world’s civilizations–Chinese (and other East Asian), Indian, Persian or even Latin American or even Arab–or pretty much any kid from an out-of-Africa settled civilization, and raise them “white”, they’ll probably end up with pretty much a generic (i.e. white) American kid, with a particular wrapper. The kid will skew toward the IQ and personality traits of their birth race/parents. But they’ll generally be ok being “white” a white American in culture.

    There is some subset of black kids like this. A quarter? A an eighth?

    But most blacks will as they grow up, rebel against this “whiteness”. 50+ of minoritarianism certainly doesn’t help, but it seems at some biological level blacks really do not want to be generic Americans. It’s just too vanilla, too civilized … just not black enough for them.

    Just don’t do it. I’m particularly sick of white Christians doing this–usually after a couple kids of their own. Please just keep having white Christian kids. That is the best thing you can do for America and humanity.

    White people simply need to stop trying “to lift up this white man’s burden” when it comes to blacks.

    Black people keep telling us what a great effing burden we are to them. Take them at their word and keep away from them.

    • Replies: @ATBOTL
  189. @Tono Bungay

    With a name like that, dare I hope that she is writing about the execrable treatment of brown people in Saudi Arabia or Dubai? or is that a silly question?

  190. notsaying says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I don’t know what people in Europe do. I find it hard to believe that nobody writes biographies of important people there.

    But one of our most important sources of information and knowledge is ourselves. If it is an Anglo trait to write about your own life and the lives of others, then I am glad to be an Anglo in an culturally Anglo country. I hope we don’t change. Yes at times we find out things we would prefer not to know or writers complain or exaggerate but those are small things in the broader scheme of things.

    • Replies: @Bardon Kaldian
  191. ATBOTL says:
    @AnotherDad

    There are many Asians adopted by whites who share the same resentment and hostility as the blacks you describe. They have been discussed on this blog many times.

    • Agree: 3g4me
  192. anon[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    The black campus activists are themselves so far removed from the military in terms of family and friend connections serving in the military that they can’t understand it would be in the black community’s interest to get military enlistment standards relaxed.

    Hey, are you named McNamara? Just wondering.

    • Replies: @anonymous
  193. @Bardon Kaldian

    I could never understand a peculiar Anglospheroid cultural trait: every little fuck has to write a memoir.

    Yeah, the other day a friend was telling me about a teacher she works with. I asked what she taught. She said she teaches “memoir writing”. At a large public university. I thought who takes a class for this?! It seems to me the ultimate in self-absorption to write a book about yourself.

    • Replies: @William Badwhite
  194. anon[120] • Disclaimer says:
    @Alden

    We’re a nation of complainers.

    Irony.

    lol.

  195. This is not about race. Everybody blames their parents for getting it wrong. Race is just a stick for her to use.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  196. Deadite says:

    The day they use Chrispr to change hair patterns is the day there will be no Afros anywhere in the gene pool

    I look forward to that day. Then we can say they used the atomic chrispr bomb to end World War Hair. It will be VinH day!!!!

    Think of the day they figure out how to use chrispr to change skin color. We’ll all be black because black is beautiful. Even my pasty white skin will get a genetic upgrade to black.

    Congress may outlaw both of these!!!!

    Blacks will never allow infidels to intrude on their holy blackness!

  197. anon[279] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    I could never understand a peculiar Anglospheroid cultural trait: every little fuck has to write a memoir. Or any figure of slightest significance must have a biography.

    Vanity plus a love of money.

    How should an autobiography commence? Here is an exemplar:

    All men of whatsoever quality they be, who have done anything of
    excellence, or which may properly resemble excellence, ought, if they
    are persons of truth and honesty, to describe their life with their own
    hand; but they ought not to attempt so fine an enterprise till they have
    passed the age of forty.

  198. @Marquandian Hero

    I’d be perfectly fine with it and wouldn’t lose a minute of sleep, as long as that included not having to listen to their complaining.

  199. @joe_mama

    You are right, I know 2 couples who were both educated upper middle class professionals that spent years going thru the adoption process, and both ended up choosing Asian babies to adopt when presented with their other “options”. Each couple easily sunk $75-100k into just the process of being approved to adopt. People from the adoption agency would show up at their homes randomly, look thru their cabinets, and try to catch them on something. Once that was over the adoption process began which included flights to Vietnam & Korea.

    On the flip side I met a couple later in life that had access to Russian orphanages, and would basically sell you a white, Russian baby for $50k as long as the check cleared. They told me Asian babies went for about $20-25-30k, and black or African ones $7500-15k. This was a few years before the woman in the US who adopted the Russian kid that had such extreme behavioral issues, she put him on a one way flight back to Russia.

  200. megabar says:

    A lot of the stuff coming out of black people’s mouths in modern times, when you strip away the silliness, is essentially “white people and black people are a little different.”

  201. Farenheit says:
    @Anon

    I have a copy of Edward Duttons’s book “Making Sense of Race” in the stack of books on my coffee table. I remember him quoting Rushton in the book about age of 1st menstruation, your number seems about right. He has a lengthy table, 6-2, that lists a couple dozen different physical variables, but menstruation was not included. Perhaps I’ll flip around and see if I can find it.

  202. @CCZ

    “…his parents have friends who are black and brown and gay and who visit and discuss race and politics openly, rigorously, often.”

    Obsessively, yes; “rigorously,” never.

    • Agree: sayless
  203. @Bugg

    Which Manchester? Manchester NH VT and MA are all pretty different and with the possible exception of the one in MA — immortalized in the movie Manchester-By-The-Sea — none of them are suburbs.

  204. Anon[349] • Disclaimer says:
    @Yojimbo/Zatoichi

    As a percentage of their race, black women tend to also have higher abortion rates than white women of same age and income levels.

    I only recently learned this and was surprised. I thought that abortion was a more middle and upper class white and Jewish phenomenon. (My surprise mirrored my surprise when I read an Emily Yoffe piece revealing that most Title IX campus “rape” cases involve white women reporting black men.)

    There are two big abortion statistics tracking programs. Here’s one, the CDC’s “Abortion Surveillance” system.

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/ss/ss6907a1.htm
    https://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/data_stats/abortion.htm

    It’s similar to their Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System where all the obesity data comes from. These systems rely on state reports. For abortion neither California nor New York participate, but New York City contributes data. Race data is reported by 30 states and D.C.

    Among the 31 areas that reported race/ethnicity data for 2018, non-Hispanic White women and non-Hispanic Black women accounted for the largest percentages of all abortions (38.7% and 33.6%, respectively), and Hispanic women and non-Hispanic women in the other race category accounted for smaller percentages (20.0% and 7.7%, respectively) (Table 5). Non-Hispanic White women had the lowest abortion rate (6.3 abortions per 1,000 women) and ratio (110 abortions per 1,000 live births), and non-Hispanic Black women had the highest abortion rate (21.2 abortions per 1,000 women) and ratio (335 abortions per 1,000 live births).

    This is from this table:

    https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/ss/ss6907a1.htm#T5_down

    • Replies: @AnotherDad
  205. anon[254] • Disclaimer says:
    @West reanimator

    As a White man whose parents adopted black children, I have some advice for potential adopters: don’t do it.

    Why not?

  206. Dan Smith says:

    So her birth mother had a taste for chocolate. Must be rough on her self esteem. Somewhere I misplaced my tiny violin.

  207. DMG says:

    This is a most critically important book to read by any White person considering adoption of a Black baby. Please ask Steve Sailor for a more detailed exegesis to help understand what the author is trying to tell you. It will be of inestimable help to know what you’re getting into.

  208. Twinkie says:
    @Reg Cæsar

    Anyway, you and I may not perceive a town-and-country difference

    I grew up partly in NH. I know NH accents pretty well. Again, what accents there are in NH are divided by region, not by urban/rural. There aren’t any significant urban areas outside of Manchester, Nashua, and Concord, and even those three are pretty small (and Nashua might as well be Mass.).

  209. Jay Fink says:
    @Steve Sailer

    I work with the public and do a lot of people watching. It is still true to this day. The white women with black men are almost always rough around the edges and physically unappealing…although apparently black guys have different tastes. Many seem to be attracted to obesity.

    White men/black women couples are less common but more likeable. The man is usually the nice guy type and the woman is reasonably attractive and doesn’t speak ebonics. I once read a website devoted to black women who want to find a white husband. The phrase they kept repeating about available single black men was “damaged beyond repair”.

  210. Twinkie says:
    @West reanimator

    That’s not the impression I get from listening to any Korean adoptees talk about their upbringing and identity

    There have been, what, 200,000 Koreans adopted internationally? How representative do you think these examples are of that overall number? Would a Korean adoptee saying “I love my adoptive mom and dad. They are my real parents. And I love the country in which I was reared” be able to get coverage on the media? Squeaky wheel gets the grease and that goes double in this age of victim-glorification in the media.

    If I could find a dozen or more whites on the Internet expressing violent racial hostility, would that prove the idea that violent racial hostility is still “all too common” among whites, let alone that most whites are still eeevil racists?

    Thankfully, we have studies done on the Korean adoptees (and international adoptees in general) that assess their levels of psychological adjustment and attachments to adoptive cultures.

    The following are relevant excerpts from such studies (hosted on Emil Kirkegaard’s site in the past):

    In a study of 372 adoptive families by questionnaires, Feigelman & Silverman compared and contrasted the long-term adjustment of Columbian, Korean, and Afro-American transracial adoptees with those of in-racially adopted whites. They reported that 10% of 161 Korean children (two-thirds of them ranging from ages 7 and 12) received professional care for problems, which was less frequent than black or white adoptees. Fifty-eight percent of Korean children achieved above average school grades, which was a higher rate than for white (48%) and black (43%) adoptees. When Korean adoptees whose ages were 13 and over were compared with white adoptees, Korean adoptees functioned better in emotional, developmental, social, and academic areas but showed more discomfort about their appearance than white adolescent adoptees.

    A ten-year follow-up study by Lydens & Snarey of 101 Korean-born adoptees examined self-concept and identity formation during adolescence (age 12 to 17) and young adulthood (age 22 to 27). They reported the development of a positive self-concept and positive social adjustment. As noted earlier, D. Kim also reported normal development of self-concept. While some of the adopted children were interested in their ethnic and adoptive identity, they often identified themselves as American rather than Korean-American or Korean. Feigelman & Silverman observed that 28% of Korean adolescents and young adults felt sometimes uncomfortable about their appearance, and some of them were even ashamed of their origin, although overall they adjusted well.

    Across the Atlantic, Kühl noted that all international adoptees including Korean adolescents identified with being German while about one third of them had some interest in their country of origin. Rorbech noted similar findings in a large sample of 18-to-25-year-old Asian adoptees including Koreans in Denmark. Almost all of these individuals identified themselves as being Danish. Yet one third felt different from others, and one quarter felt uncomfortable about their differences. Twnenty-seven percent were teased at school and 18% continued to be teased as adults. Two thirds did not show any attachment to their country of origin, and two thirds did not want information about their family of origin.

    The overall impression is that Korean adoptees have done very well consistently, study after study, when surveying the literature spanning four decades and on both sides of the Atlantic. It confirms what Tizard summed up, “While the evidence is patchy and incomplete, it does suggest that in 75-80% of intercountry adoptions the children and adolescents function well, with no more behavioral and educational problems at home and at school than other children.” Moreover, Korean children seem to be doing better than adoptees of other ethnic groups. Feigelman & Silverman stated, “We were surprised to find that the Korean adoptees were better adapted than white U.S.-born adoptees.” Dr. Kim reported, “The adopted Korean children were similar to other American teenagers in many respects, and they were just as well or even better than others, although they seemed to have had some initial adjustment difficulties.”

    Among a population of 200,000+ people, you are going to be able to find examples to justify your own priors, whatever they may be, but surveys with statistical validity consistently say the same, as summarized by above quoted remarks.

    *Note that the 75-80% figure Tizard cites is of ALL international adoptees, not just Korean ones (he reports as do other researchers that Korean adoptees do better than the norm).

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  211. Probably in a few years we will have memoirs of some of these ‘Heather has 2 Daddies’ children, entitled “Surviving the White Gays”.

    • Replies: @Gary in Gramercy
  212. @Polistra

    They will never get their house in order.
    Which brings us back here, where we are.

  213. @CCZ

    Her interview in Yankee Magazine

    Pretty funny and surprisingly heartwarming:

    J.K.: You were the only Black kid in your middle school and high school. What else stuck with you?

    R.C.: Um, well. [Laughs.] Notably, Slave Day.

    J.K.: Really? Slave Day?

    R.C.: It was a time-honored tradition [in seventh grade]. Slave Day was when boys bid on girls, and girls bid on boys, and whoever bid the highest got to make that person their slave for the day—which usually involved some kind of costume or onerous thing to wear—and then also carry their books all day. The boy who bought me was a skier. He put me in a neoprene suit and ski boots and goggles, and I carried his books around. And what really stands out for me in that memory was that I was really pleased that I was bought. Because that was a sign of being popular. If you hadn’t been bought, it was because you were a nerd, or you were unpopular, or nobody cared. I didn’t even take issue with it—but that none of the adults did either is so egregious. [Laughs.] I can’t even believe that that was just fine. It was just: Ah! Slave Day! We love it!

    A bit of down-home crunchy nostalgia in this sepia-toned snapshot from 1976: Her parents seem like nice people. Ms. Carroll’s life wasn’t all bad.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  214. @Johann Ricke

    Guy named John; trawlerman all his days.
    One time he ended up in Honkers as the engineer on a massive North Sea tub that fetched up there for some reason.
    Stroking around on the dock, trying to find a drink.

    Bloody chinese girl roared right up to him, in his filthy boiler suit and all.
    Popped a tiny baby (girl, as it turned out) into his more than confused arms.
    “But I’m not even wed yet” says he,”and whae the hell are ye?”
    Of course, neither of them understood the other. Then she legged it sharpish.

    But John, being a sincere and rock-hard Christian, determined that it was a Sign.
    I suppose that even now, there’s a kind of Bjork-looking quine up in Orkney pondering her origins, and blaming Whitey or the Scottish grand(step)parents that brought her up.

    Last time I saw him was years later, fetched up on the south bank, the whole ship hove to and grounded for repairs. At Putney, other side of the bridge from the church where the Debates occurred. Right under the Duke’s Head. Of course I shouted down to him to come and get a drink.
    But he could not leave, tide was rising.
    Never found out what happened to the child.

    • Thanks: Johann Ricke
  215. anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    Blacks are 15% of the enlisted in the USAF but due to high ASVAB requirements are like 2-3% of the eligible pool. Blacks would like to serve in the Air Force and could be half of enlisted personnel if the Air Force had the same standards as the Army.

    • Replies: @anon
    , @no jack london
  216. anon[416] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    Blacks would like to serve in the Air Force and could be half of enlisted personnel if the Air Force had the same standards as the Army.

    So?

    • Replies: @anonymous
  217. @Jorge Videla

    While one can certainly point to top-down agendas, there is also a lot of grassroots rage among black women which better fits Steve Sailor’s explanation. A top-down agenda can result in a temporary wave of panic over Saddam Hussein supposedly possessing weapons of mass-destruction ready to go off on 45 minutes notice. But then it fades. The frustrations of black women over sexual competition from non-black women are much more enduring and involve more than just a media-cycle.

  218. Paleoconn says:

    She was born to a white woman, and adopted by white people who believed in zero population growth in New Hampshire. Such white supremists.

    Props to this woman nonetheless for capitalizing the w in whites, and teaching me two new words, adultification and conversancy.

  219. @Anonymous

    It’s beneath me to respond to someone whose nick is “Anonymous,” but I think the same about you.

  220. @Twinkie

    I worked for a time for a charity that employed young (18-30 y.o.) volunteers from around the world. It was noticed, not just by me, that the Korean volunteers Westernized/Americanized faster and farther than other volunteers, even though they usually arrived with less familiarity and less ability to speak English than, for example, Western European volunteers, who were usually surprisingly proficient English-speakers even before they stepped off the plane. At the time, I had a vague geopolitical hypothesis for this, involving Korea being sandwiched between large, intermittently aggressive hegemonic nations, resulting in Koreans being more willing or interested in extending themselves to non-neighboring cultures. But looking at these adoption studies suggests that my hypothesis was superfluous. It seems that Koreans are congenitally more prone to assimilation, or assimilation to the West at any rate. Even immigration hawk Ann Coulter has noted that if we have to have immigrants, we do the best with immigrants from Korea.

    On a personal note, one of my close friends in high school was Korean (not adopted, brought over by his immigrant parents). Our high school was at a time and place where what we now call multiculturalism and SJW-ism were just getting started. I myself found at least the multiculturalism interesting as I’ve always liked foreign cultures. One might have expected my friend, as an immigrant, to be on the cutting edge of this. Yet he was exactly the opposite. He read and discussed the great Western philosophers and highbrow Western literature, completely outside the school curriculum, and without irony. He shared my interest in 20th century military history and contemporary cold war politics. He was an early and active participant in the Euro-inspired New Wave arts/music scene. And he reacted with the same irritated bafflement and revulsion—though much more vocally—that others of us had to the cultural innovations that the Left was then (as now) foisting onto society at large.

    I wouldn’t have put it this way at the time, but looking back I can see that his devoted interest in Western Civilization exerted a kind of mild shaming effect on me into taking the Western inheritance more seriously. Indeed, I think it is not too much to say that he catalyzed the precipitation of some of us into a reactionary countercultural cell at our otherwise impeccably liberal school, so much so that some teachers even commented on it. Nor do I think it too much to say that the effects of this continue down to today. Wherever you are, [NAME REDACTED], I salute you!

    • Replies: @Twinkie
  221. guest007 says:
    @Charles St. Charles

    When light colored black women go with the afro-centric hair styles, it is usually just a political statement.

  222. guest007 says:
    @Aardvark

    The question for military service is what percentage of 19-30 y/os are black compared to the 18% in the miltary. The next narrowing would be that since public schools are less than 50% white, one would expect the military to be less than 50% white or at least reccruit from the last five years.

  223. guest007 says:
    @AndrewR

    Obama grew up as just another hapa kid is a state dominated by Asians, specially Japanese-American. However, being like many smart kids from Hawaii, he moved to the mainland and recreated himself.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  224. Anonymous[171] • Disclaimer says:
    @R.G. Camara

    I mean, between her and Colin Kapernick, black children adopted by loving, caring whites sound like the most ungrateful, spoiled, hate-filled brats in the world.

    There was a case a few years ago where one of these adoptees got her thug boyfriends to kill her ‘parents’ and rob their house. Does anyone remember details?

    • Replies: @Charlotte
  225. @Jenner Ickham Errican

    I was really pleased that I was bought. Because that was a sign of being popular. If you hadn’t been bought, it was because you were a nerd, or you were unpopular, or nobody cared. I didn’t even take issue with it—but that none of the adults did either is so egregious.

    She wouldn’t find it so egregious if she were as historically and culturally literate as the immortal Richard Francis Burton:

    https://archive.org/details/personalnarrati00burt/page/60/mode/2up

    “Why don’t you buy me?”

  226. anonymous[221] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hertog

    Another white Trump supporter shot off the trunk of an elephant, which collapsed and died in agony.

  227. @notsaying

    It depends.

    If we go into a more distant past, we can find there are masterpieces of memoir literature, authored by Comte Saint Germain or Aleksandr Herzen. But there are exceptions- most great people in past, say, 2 centuries didn’t write memoirs. Einstein didn’t; Picasso didn’t; Faulkner didn’t.

    In fact, William Faulkner was so irritated by snooping that he said he would rather do as Elizabethan authors-as he imagined- did. His whole private life should be summed in inscription on a tombstone: He wrote novels and stories and died.

    On the other hand, it seems that various generals, statesmen … are compulsory memoir writers, trying to salvage their reputation for posterity (De Gaulle, Churchill, Manstein, Speer, ..). Having read a lot of memoirs of public figures, I must say that Napoleon’s leaves them all in the dust.

    Napoleon’s memoirs are a work of huge intellect, wisdom, culture, charismatic power. If I take all non-literary memoirs written in next 200 years, they all are dwarfed by Napoleon’s work of genius.

    But, anyway- these were important historical figures (Churchill, De Gaulle, ..). Most important creative people simply did not bother to present their lives to the public (Dostoevsky, Einstein, Dirac, Marx, Freud, Musil, Joyce, Faulkner, ….). Feynman seems to be one of the exceptions- I don’t think he made a service to himself by his clowning literary idiocies about himself.

    I am not saying that only “great” people should write memoirs; ordinary, non-recognizable people can, in principle, say something worthwhile to read. But this is very, very rare.

    But, having skimmed through trash authored by Bill Clinton, Madeleine Albright, Sarah Valentine (a mulatta)..all I can say: you’d better kept your life private, instead of unleashing torrents of muck, lies, bullshit…

    Memoirs are: Hey, look at me! My objection would be- why? Don’t you have any dignity and self-respect to keep your inner life yours only?

    • Replies: @anon
    , @Art Deco
  228. Art Deco says:
    @Philip Owen

    This is not about race. Everybody blames their parents for getting it wrong.

    Some do, some don’t. And they’re usually reticent about it by age 51, especially if they have children of their own.

  229. @Anon

    I only recently learned this and was surprised. I thought that abortion was a more middle and upper class white and Jewish phenomenon.

    Abortion is an indicator of ill-discipline or incompetence with regard to birth control, but also enough competence to take corrective action. (I’m leaving all the morality stuff aside here.)

    It is most certainly not high IQ/college educated women. It’s the mushy middle–tends to be high school and “some college” types–who screw up but then think “this is really going to screw up my life”–and rush out to abort. The even dumber ones tend not to abort because realistic thinking about single-mommery is beyond them … and they really don’t have any particular “career” ambitions. They stumble on through life.

    Blacks have a very high abortion rate, and it is concentrated–because of their IQ distribution–more toward the top–black women who want to be married to have children, and realize the baby daddy is a useless POS who isn’t sticking around. So black fertility ends up being the most dysgenic. (Joy!)

    In basic biological terms, of course, the dumb ones are the smart ones–they are doing with their bodies what their bodies are designed to do and ergo populating the future. But single mommery–i.e. African style sexual mores–is not compatible with civilization.

    Civilization means patriarchy. Men in charge, responsible for their families–and being productive to support them. The West has launched off on a giant experiment disputing that basic truth. It will not end well.

  230. @anonymous

    Anon (143):

    Saker rated the performance liklihood of the US Armed Forces against the military of Russia. The only service to start out with but gradually lose a superior position was the USAF. Does the percentage of blacks being lower than the other services have any relationship to quality of expected performance? Understand blacks are less than 3 percent of the USAF combat aircrews and quite low in being assigned mission-essential critical positions that do not involve flying.

  231. Gabe Ruth says:
    @Goingblankagain

    Anti-cognitive-behavioral-therapy is a good way to look at it. Seeking out new ways to start self-destructive thought patterns and never shutting up about them, all the while bemoaning your lack of a voice.

  232. @Jonathan Mason

    The question is … what the hell is wrong with this “very wealthy young Englishman with aristocratic connections”.

  233. @Jorge Videla

    “leave the comedy to funny people.

    “leave the thinking to smart people.”

    Says the brand new commenter who confirms that “antisemitism is the socialism of fools.”

    kaganovitch’s comments consistently show him to be both smart and funny. You should only live so long…

  234. @Jack D

    From the perspective of wanting the best for your children, the smartest thing a black woman can do is get impregnated by a smart white man. (Smarter, more attractive child who can more readily tap all the AA sinecures.)

    But black women generally aren’t all that smart, and they want what they want. I’ll give them credit for being loyal to their race, their men–who show little loyalty to them.

  235. @kaganovitch

    Heather will do just fine with her two daddies. Jason, I’m not so sure about.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  236. @Aardvark

    In the past there have been complaints that blacks are over represented in the military. I think I saw a figure once that blacks were 18% of the military while they are only 13% of the population.

    Blacks in the military tend to angle towards support and logistics roles. The “tip of the spear” is mostly white, with quite a few Mexicans thrown in. IOW the military for blacks is just another government job.

  237. @Charles St. Charles

    It seems to me the ultimate in self-absorption to write a book about yourself.

    Much less two before the age of fifty, a la Barry Soetero

  238. @Gary in Gramercy

    So, you’re one of those haters who insists on gendering people based on their name? We haf berth in reeducation camp with your name on it, tovarisch.

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  239. anon[100] • Disclaimer says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    But, having skimmed through trash authored by Bill Clinton, Madeleine Albright, Sarah Valentine (a mulatta)..all I can say

    Hey, now. Hey!

    Let’s have some charity here. Ghost-writing is not an easy job, and I’m sure it’s not all that pleasant, but it is something that a liberal arts graduate with a degree in Creative Writing can do for money. “As told to” isn’t the greatest byline, but it’s a publication and the money is surely always welcome.

    Not everyone has a pal like Bill Ayers who’s willing to gaslight the public write about Dreams for the sheer artistry.

    • LOL: Bardon Kaldian
  240. Art Deco says:
    @guest007

    A plurality of the population in Hawaii was ethnic Japanese at that time. I think among business and professional people like the Dunhams, haoles may have had a plurality.

    Honolulu is a second tier city. There’s ample opportunity for ‘smart kids’ to build a career locally. Note, Obama never built much of a career on the mainland in law or in academe (mulligans notwithstanding) and his foray into NGO administration was a disaster. As late as 2004, he was a state legislator from Illinois who wasn’t known as a maven in any area of policy. The guy’s life since has been a disconcerting testament to what can be done with clever marketing.

  241. Art Deco says:
    @Bardon Kaldian

    Albright should have been able to do a satisfactory job with that sort of thing. Wouldn’t expect much from politicians (Daniel Patrick Moynihan excepted).

  242. anonymous[143] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon

    An obvious place for equity reform is the USAF, which could be a source of hundreds of thousands of extra jobs for blacks if not for high ASVAB criteria.

    • Replies: @anon
  243. @kaganovitch

    What’s even worse: I’m one of those traditionalists who agrees with Calvin — the little boy with the stuffed tiger, not the French theologian of the Protestant Reformation — that “verbing weirds language.” Accordingly, “gendering” is not a word.

    Try again, and while you’re at it, make sure my berth at “reeducation camp” has both a sturdy metal frame and 100% cotton sheets: polyester is not a suitable fabric for sleeping, especially in warmer weather.

    • LOL: Johann Ricke
    • Replies: @kaganovitch
  244. Bill B. says:
    @Johann Ricke

    True.

    But the HK Chinese are extremely chauvinist (to be kind about it) and they didn’t much care even for the few Brits who were there in the 1980s – when I lived there.

    They, before and after the 1997 return, fully supported the authorities in keeping the demographics of the city rock-solid Chinese. They dislike the low-class mainlanders who flooded in but (as in Singapore) at least they were not brown, black or white.

    The article, I was trying to suggest, reeks of hypocrisy.

    (Singapore inherited a number of Indians and Malays but their numbers are carefully monitored.)

  245. anon[148] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous

    An obvious place for equity reform is the USAF, which could be a source of hundreds of thousands of extra jobs for blacks if not for high ASVAB criteria.

    What if there’s another purpose to the USAF than to be a “source of … jobs for blacks”, and therefore the ASVAB standards are in place for good and sound reasons?

  246. @Gary in Gramercy

    What’s even worse: I’m one of those traditionalists who agrees with Calvin — the little boy with the stuffed tiger, not the French theologian of the Protestant Reformation — that “verbing weirds language.”

    Rest assured tovarisch that decadent counter-revolutionary samizdat like Calvin and Hobbes will not be tolerated in glorious Saint Emmett Till Re-educationary camp.

  247. tl;dr: ungrateful bitch

  248. @Jack D

    Not all black women are interested in dating white men but upscale “black” women (e.g. Kamala Harris) often are.

    1. Harris isn’t attracted to “handsome White men” — she’s attracted to power. (Willie Brown)

    2. “Black?” She’s half Tamil Brahmin and maybe a quarter sub-Saharan African — her father is a mulatto.

    3. Emhoff isn’t White — he’s a MOT. Harris was just trying to acquire some jew privilege by association (see “attracted to power”). And it worked.

  249. Twinkie says:
    @Almost Missouri

    At the time, I had a vague geopolitical hypothesis for this, involving Korea being sandwiched between large, intermittently aggressive hegemonic nations, resulting in Koreans being more willing or interested in extending themselves to non-neighboring cultures.

    Koreans are a rather cantankerous people, and are troublesome to rule, which is why they survived being next to China and Japan for thousands of years and have remained as a distinct people (while others – e.g. the Manchus – have been absorbed). So that history would argue against assimilative tendencies.

    But looking at these adoption studies suggests that my hypothesis was superfluous. It seems that Koreans are congenitally more prone to assimilation, or assimilation to the West at any rate.

    Not just the West, I think. Ethnic Koreans in both the Soviet Union and China were noted for their patriotism and loyalty to those countries, respectively.

    Even immigration hawk Ann Coulter has noted that if we have to have immigrants, we do the best with immigrants from Korea.

    That doesn’t sound like Anne Coulter.

    To be clear, though, the Manhattan Institute studies have both the Vietnamese and the Filipinos as having a bit higher assimilation index than Koreans in the United States. Canadians, Filipinos, Vietnamese, Koreans, and Cubans are grouped together (high) in the assimilation index among the major immigrant groups in the U.S. Chinese and Indians are grouped lower along with Mexicans, Salvadorans, and Guatemalans.

    • Replies: @Almost Missouri
  250. @Twinkie

    That doesn’t sound like [Ann] Coulter.

    Agreed, which is why it stuck in my mind. It was in the sidebar of her old website, where she put little short-form musings before Twitter became the de facto monopoly for that kind of thing.

    To be sure, I don’t think her purpose was to praise Koreans so much as to get Americans to move away from “all immigrants are holy” to thinking more “some immigrants are better than others” as a step on the path to “immigration is not automatically good.”

    • Thanks: Twinkie
  251. @Twinkie

    Gratitude is normal. Most people are grateful to parents and family they loved, friends who helped them out. But it’s the kind of emotion that is just a part of your system, you tend not to isolate it and label it too often.

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