Surprise! Former LARPer of Color Liz Warren Is Taking Personally That the Supreme Court Is Shutting Down Her Old Grift
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An extremist Supreme Court has once again reversed decades of settled law, rolled back the march toward racial justice, and narrowed educational opportunity for all. I won't stop fighting for young people with big dreams who deserve an equal chance to pursue their future.
— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) June 29, 2023
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https://twitter.com/hpmacd/status/1674438493337001984
“I won’t stop fighting for young people with big dreams who deserve an equal chance to pursue their future.”
Sounds great! Hand over your job, pension, property, and grandkids’ spots at university to the POC.
Waddamean, no?
Let’s make Harvard competence and intellectual merit based again!
Waddamean no?
Who's fighting for what now?
If you can't fight for this.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILWSp0m9G2U
or this....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DOvoawVRHE
then I'm not entirely sure what it is that you're fighting for, jack..
clue me in when you're a bit more specific, Liz.
Though her tribe wasn't from anywhere near Cambridge.
Liz says:
This nasty sanctimonious woman in fact hates the young lower class deplorable white males in her home state of Oklahoma who have big dreams. She has dedicated her life to killing any chance they have to pursue their future.
Below is a picture of the man behind the research which ultimately led to this momentous Supreme Court decision.
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I saw that on Twitter earlier and thought “Thomas has been doing his Unabomer reading!” before I got the joke. It was an odd few moments for me.
Always marching and marching and marching and … never quite getting to “justice”. Damn. Apparently we white people are somehow blocking them from getting there.
One gets the sense that “justice” in the minoritarian imagination is a mental mashup of “just us”. So as usual … I’ve got the actual solution!
Let us separate whites off into separate areas where they can not get in the way of non-whites’ “march” toward “justice. We will call these separate places “nations”. And non-whites freed whites will then be able to march on to their promised land of “justice” … or “just us”.
Basically gimedats dressed up in case of college AA.
AnotherDad, this speaker today at California’s reparations task force meeting agrees, divorce is the answer:
https://www.youtube.com/live/IVr4icHhSZ0?feature=share&t=2477Replies: @AnotherDad, @JR Ewing, @res
Warren has a safe seat anyway.
The abortion decision was costly to Republicans because a lot of white suburban women who are swing voters were against it.
But this is going to be cost free. The vast majority of Americans (who are not black) do not favor AA. Blacks already vote almost 100% Dem anyway.
Trump is right that we should thank him and his 3 appointments on the Court for this. People pretend that the Court operates on reasoning and interpreting the Constitution but in cases like this they vote purely on party lines. Of course the majority opinion is 100% correct but with a different Court they would have upheld it anyway. 25 years was just a “suggestion” – with the right majority on the Court it could have been extended for another 25 the way you renew a library book or Xi Jinping adds to his term in office.
Warren strikes me as smarter and generally less invested in this DIE crap than in old school "lift up all boats" progressivism. But people tend to make their brains conform to their political and social peers.
And ... the jury's still out on Biden. Biden was absolutely pathetic in 2020--only propped up by extreme media cover and Trump's own rhetorical and actual incompetence--and has degraded noticeably and publicly since then. Warren may think there's a good chance the dam will break soon and the party will want a spritely spring chicken of 76, rather than a doddering idiot of 82 ... and needs to firm up acceptability to blacks. (Won't work.)
Remember that meanwhile the endless faucet of migrants is running full-tilt.
surprised Steve never did a “Where are they now?” on the most famous guy of all.
https://www.vitals.com/doctors/Dr_Allan_Bakke.html
https://www.wellness.com/dir/2241745/anesthesiologist/mn/rochester/allan-bakke-md
looks like some other people never forgot about him though.
BTW, a whole lot of sound and fury over a big nothing. Does anyone believe this stuff is going to magically stop? Especially in college admissions?
If I was a younger man, I’d suggest starting a betting pool on how long this decision will last. But since the Supremes–the black robed guys, not Mary, Flo and Diana–are on average younger than me, I can’t see much point.
But politics is downstream of demographics. And under the minoritarian raj, American politics and demographics just gets ever more embarrassing and depressing.
I’d like to think that down the road there will be some sort of broad white-Hispanic-Asian middle-working class coalition that will toss off this Jewish minoritarian ideology and my kids’ America will slump toward Brazil in a more Latin style–color continuum inequality. And critically smarck down the “must have immigration!” bleaters and avoid downloading Steve’s “World’s Most Important Graph”. But unfortunately this toxic minoritarian garbage is deeply ingrained now and is the iron bowl for so many.
I don’t know if the Chinese will be able to get their act together to tackle the eugenic fertility nut. The Chicoms crew of late looks like a gaggle of pathetic incompetent grifters … but they got scale and ergo some time. If they ever do get it together on the eugenic fertility question, a flick of their wrist–or the Wuhan Institute of Virology–will be sufficient to dispatch the sad shit sack that minoritarianism has made of the US, politically and demographically.
and...
there should be no universities and colleges in the first place and no grades...just tests, objective tests.Replies: @Mike Conrad
I do. The weaker state AA bans reduced unqualified black enrollment by about 75% at elite public colleges. And these weaker laws couldn’t be enforced in federal court.
Universities that resist will be at the butt end of federal injunctions and attorney fee awards.
This decision means whites and asians can sue for discrimination in federal court and win big.
A covert neutered AA like Berkeley and UT have now will persist at wealthier leftist colleges in lefty jurisdictions. Harvard is so rich and committed to anti-white hate they are OK with paying the huge cost for another few years of illegal anti-white policies. Most universities lack this funding and commitment.Replies: @Ralph L, @Inquiring Mind
“Progress” is NOT the same thing as Constitutionality. But we all know that.
Warren isn’t a “LARPer,” Steve. Warren has Indian ancestry. Fact.
By the way, your use of the phrase “LARPERer” is in itself problematic. Name an “affirmative action” beneficiary who is NOT a LARPER.
She was found to have one native ancestor 6-to-10 generations ago. She fraudently used that to get into Harvard, probably keeping out a real tribal member of a recognized tribe.
There are millions of whites who have a greater claim to Indian ancestry than Elizabeth Warren. There are thousands of Native Americans who have waved their ethnic flag less aggressively to their own benefit than she has.
What guidelines would you use for considering someone an American Indian for affirmative action purposes?
There is a difference between proudly asserting a connection (however tenuous in Warren's case) to Indian heritage and benefiting from affirmative action based on that connection.That is more interesting. Can't tell if it is a sign of a sophisticated troll having fun or not.
Right. So you concur then, with the SCROTUS decision. I was kinda getting mixed smoke signals there, Fauxahontas.
The abortion decision was costly to Republicans because a lot of white suburban women who are swing voters were against it.
But this is going to be cost free. The vast majority of Americans (who are not black) do not favor AA. Blacks already vote almost 100% Dem anyway.
Trump is right that we should thank him and his 3 appointments on the Court for this. People pretend that the Court operates on reasoning and interpreting the Constitution but in cases like this they vote purely on party lines. Of course the majority opinion is 100% correct but with a different Court they would have upheld it anyway. 25 years was just a "suggestion" - with the right majority on the Court it could have been extended for another 25 the way you renew a library book or Xi Jinping adds to his term in office.Replies: @AnotherDad, @HammerJack
I can never tell what nonsense people really believe. (Ex. someone here thinks IQ–all neural proteins?–is somehow encoded primarily in the X chromosome … or something.)
Warren strikes me as smarter and generally less invested in this DIE crap than in old school “lift up all boats” progressivism. But people tend to make their brains conform to their political and social peers.
And … the jury’s still out on Biden. Biden was absolutely pathetic in 2020–only propped up by extreme media cover and Trump’s own rhetorical and actual incompetence–and has degraded noticeably and publicly since then. Warren may think there’s a good chance the dam will break soon and the party will want a spritely spring chicken of 76, rather than a doddering idiot of 82 … and needs to firm up acceptability to blacks. (Won’t work.)
The Court left an F150-sized hole for Applicants Of Color to weave a tale of how they overcame specific instances of racial discrimination through courage and determination and this magic-lawyer-language will be an instant dog whistle to wave them in over whites and Asians with better academic chops. Nothing will change.
Just the fact that they will have to cheat and do it under the table instead of openly acting in a racist way is a victory.
Any time you try for proxy measures such as "hardship", there are plenty of whites and Asians who have had tough lives too (and better grades and scores than blacks).
As for "being a proven victim of racism", I don't thing Jussie Smollett wants to go to Harvard and otherwise actual proven racial victims are thin on the ground in 2023. This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now. Rosa Parks is dead of old age.Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Corvinus, @houston 1992
By the way, your use of the phrase “LARPERer” is in itself problematic. Name an “affirmative action” beneficiary who is NOT a LARPER.Replies: @Robertson, @John Milton’s Ghost, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Mike Ricci, @res, @Jack D
1/1024th ain’t much ancestry hoss.
She was found to have one native ancestor 6-to-10 generations ago. She fraudently used that to get into Harvard, probably keeping out a real tribal member of a recognized tribe.
Leonard Pitts has a great article about how white males have enjoyed affirmative action for hundreds of years.
By the way, your use of the phrase “LARPERer” is in itself problematic. Name an “affirmative action” beneficiary who is NOT a LARPER.Replies: @Robertson, @John Milton’s Ghost, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Mike Ricci, @res, @Jack D
Criminey, yes she has a trace of Native ancestry, less than 1%, and no legitimate tribal affiliation beyond family lore more suspiciously fake than a can of spam.
There are millions of whites who have a greater claim to Indian ancestry than Elizabeth Warren. There are thousands of Native Americans who have waved their ethnic flag less aggressively to their own benefit than she has.
By the way, your use of the phrase “LARPERer” is in itself problematic. Name an “affirmative action” beneficiary who is NOT a LARPER.Replies: @Robertson, @John Milton’s Ghost, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Mike Ricci, @res, @Jack D
Lots of founding stock Americans have an Injun in the woodpile, most in closer proximity than Elizabeth. She, and me, would still be completely out of element at the Gathering Of Nations and it would be ostentatious and offensive to show up in dress trying to do an Injun dance.
One gets the sense that "justice" in the minoritarian imagination is a mental mashup of "just us". So as usual ... I've got the actual solution!
Let us separate whites off into separate areas where they can not get in the way of non-whites' "march" toward "justice. We will call these separate places "nations". And non-whites freed whites will then be able to march on to their promised land of "justice" ... or "just us".Replies: @Redneck Farmer, @danand, @The Alarmist
Just, noun, just as I want.
Basically gimedats dressed up in case of college AA.
These hysterical leftist females ought to settle down. We all know this decision is meaningless, and will be subverted or disobeyed without consequence by the colleges that adhere to the regime ideology (i.e. 99.9% of them). I hope that some enterprising rightwing legal firm will monitor the antics of the colleges, and sue their ass into the ground if they don’t adhere to the ruling.
The abortion decision was costly to Republicans because a lot of white suburban women who are swing voters were against it.
But this is going to be cost free. The vast majority of Americans (who are not black) do not favor AA. Blacks already vote almost 100% Dem anyway.
Trump is right that we should thank him and his 3 appointments on the Court for this. People pretend that the Court operates on reasoning and interpreting the Constitution but in cases like this they vote purely on party lines. Of course the majority opinion is 100% correct but with a different Court they would have upheld it anyway. 25 years was just a "suggestion" - with the right majority on the Court it could have been extended for another 25 the way you renew a library book or Xi Jinping adds to his term in office.Replies: @AnotherDad, @HammerJack
Perhaps so. But all of those swing voters have yet to swing back, and if there’s any sign of that happening the Dems will just plaster the abortion decision over every available surface in cyberspace, as well as old media. What’s the plan for that?
Remember that meanwhile the endless faucet of migrants is running full-tilt.
Sounds great! Hand over your job, pension, property, and grandkids' spots at university to the POC.
Waddamean, no?Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @Prester John
Sounds great! Now eliminate legacy admissions as well as admissions based on sports prowess!
Let’s make Harvard competence and intellectual merit based again!
Waddamean no?
Steve once noted that his view on hate crimes changed when he considered that it was important from a perspective of collective rights to have laws which tend to deter crimes which promote ethnic tensions.
This is essentially proto ethnic power-sharing logic. America first began to have some of this after the great wave with the setasides for Catholic and Jewish Supreme Court, ironically. However since it was merely assumed that WASPs or even Protestants in general would take care of themselves there was no explicit provision for them in this and so it is that in 2023 a court entirely consisting of members of Catholic and Jewish backgrounds has ruled the other major form of ethnic power-sharing, Affirmative Action unconstitutional, you’d think they’d get the joke but since nothing is in writing per the Catholic and Jewish only quotas on the Supreme Court, I suppose it isn’t in violation of any laws either.
Affirmative Action doesn’t exist because everyone thought that eventually the black proportion of students at elite US universities would match their proportion of 18-22 year olds. It exists because it was seen as an existential requirement for a larger than otherwise would be black undergrad population at elite schools in terms of serving the needs of the African America nation that came to be recognised after the mass political actions and riots of the 60s.
Affirmative Action and other set-asides for blacks were a cheapo way to keep some kind of political peace, De facto the US government and society recognises black America as a distinct thing which won political rights in the 60s but nobody told the constitution which was never amended to reflect this. More political autonomy for reservations is another form of this but is largely invisible outside certain places due to the much smaller numbers of Native Americans.
It will be interesting to see if this leads to more overt alienation towards the state among blacks, particularly middle and upper middle classes who provide the intellectuals and commentators who have the most to lose. Things may be muddled through with schools already anticipating this and beginning to end test-based metrics entirely with the result that little to no changes occur, at least for blacks. Questions may now be raised about the proportion of Asian and guess who is likely to be shoved aside to make room? Hint: It won’t be blacks or Jews.
The US only really formally recognises blacks and Native Americans as collectives with collective needs for Affirmative Action in order to give them greater access to the professional classes that compose the decision-making elite. Not having a voice in those rooms is pretty bad. Whites didn’t seem to really get this when the Jewish elite emerged but maybe they’ll get it when the Asian elite emerges, they’ll be less innately anti-white but they won’t be inclined to enact policy or make any effort to transform the economy to better suit whites or their collective interests.
Given the Native American like “deaths of despair” of whites as they are collectively displaced and disparaged, perhaps one day they will be recognised too and a true power-sharing paradigm that includes the biggest group too will come to pass. I’m not so sure right now this decision on it’s own is in the interests of whites, just look at Canadian universities.
How would Kagan respond if affirmative action was being used to hold Jews to their 2% “share”?Replies: @HammerJack, @Alden, @Jack D, @Mr. XYZ, @Wj
They reversed “decades of settled law” when they reversed Plessy v. Ferguson, too. They reversed a few centuries of settled law when they made homosexuality legal and gave gays the right to wed (over the very recent objections of the majority of voters in ~35 states, including California).
One major difference is that, to my knowledge, nowhere anywhere ever has a majority of voters in any sizeable jurisdiction voted in favor of affirmative action. In fact it has seldom ever been enacted in anything remotely resembling a democratic setting. Usually an unelected board of regents or whatever, or an admissions office that has not consulted the will of the people at all.
The Left is pretty crafty at screaming MUH DEMOCRACY! when they have the numbers (good bye, electoral college); but plenty happy to scream BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS! when cramming unpopular programs (hello, mass immigration, et al) down our throats.
I'll grant that now it would pass in a lot of places. Most people don't like to be "mean" and "take away" "rights". (There is vast confusion about what marriage is and who gets to bestow such a "right".) And People have been relentless propagandized by Hollyweird. And young people .... honestly their minds are mush. They don't have the slightest clue about civilization and what makes it tick. (They haven't lived in a society--a nation, a polity--interested in preserving civilization.) No surprise marriage itself is tanking.Replies: @Curle
Note that when Elena Kagan was confirmed to the Supreme Court the Court became 33% Jewish in a nation that was only 2% Jewish. When she voted against ending affirmative action she did so in a country where about 35% of billionaires are Jewish and where five of the six most powerful cabinet positions in the current administration are held by Jews.
How would Kagan respond if affirmative action was being used to hold Jews to their 2% “share”?
Like Prop 209 passing by a substantial majority the Harvard ruling could go nowhere. The Asian grandparents need to start making huge donations. Or hiring lawyers to file discrimination lawsuits when their kids are denied admission. Court rulings are laws under our did functional system. And it takes a lot of legal fees to enforce laws.
The court has 6 Catholics though, in a country that is 20% Catholic. I don't understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism. The Jews need to talk to the Roman Church's PR agent.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @res, @Mike Conrad, @Wilkey
True enough, the Universities will reduce the weighting of the SATs and they are still permitted to discriminate based on economic background of applicants to increase the diversity of the student body. The SAT plans on assigning an adversity score which will capture students social and economic background, thus students will earn a higher diversity score if they attended bad schools or live in bad neighborhoods. Since race is not a factor the colleges will use the so-called “adversity score” to implement affirmative action without changing the demographics of the student body. They can discriminate against students from good schools so they will, as observed in some California state schools.
How would Kagan respond if affirmative action was being used to hold Jews to their 2% “share”?Replies: @HammerJack, @Alden, @Jack D, @Mr. XYZ, @Wj
Letter to the editor of the WSJ today:
It's a bad, humiliating joke. How does it benefit anyone? The semi-literate who might have mastered basic bookkeeping or welding is now taught that he's some combination of failure and fraud.
It's all but intentionally evil. It's designed to literally hurt most of those who come into contact with it.
I mean, I don't care. Post-Summer of George, fuck 'em. But what's the point?
Lifelong Non profit grifter and presidential candidate Robert Kennedy Jr. is very very unhappy about the Asian students for fair admission vs Harvard board of overseers verdict and ruling. In 1962 and 63, years before the affirmative action act of 1968 his father the attorney general spent a lot of time haranguing managers of union apprenticeship programs that even if negroes could not read or knew enough math to measure just had to be admitted to the programs. Pretty treacherous for a Democrat party politician. A party that really was the voice of the average worker in those days.
That said, he is giving the Ds fits.
https://nypost.com/2013/03/10/rfk-son-is-oil-broken-up-over-chavez-death/Replies: @Rohirrimborn, @Curle
If I was a younger man, I'd suggest starting a betting pool on how long this decision will last. But since the Supremes--the black robed guys, not Mary, Flo and Diana--are on average younger than me, I can't see much point.
But politics is downstream of demographics. And under the minoritarian raj, American politics and demographics just gets ever more embarrassing and depressing.
I'd like to think that down the road there will be some sort of broad white-Hispanic-Asian middle-working class coalition that will toss off this Jewish minoritarian ideology and my kids' America will slump toward Brazil in a more Latin style--color continuum inequality. And critically smarck down the "must have immigration!" bleaters and avoid downloading Steve's "World's Most Important Graph". But unfortunately this toxic minoritarian garbage is deeply ingrained now and is the iron bowl for so many.
I don't know if the Chinese will be able to get their act together to tackle the eugenic fertility nut. The Chicoms crew of late looks like a gaggle of pathetic incompetent grifters ... but they got scale and ergo some time. If they ever do get it together on the eugenic fertility question, a flick of their wrist--or the Wuhan Institute of Virology--will be sufficient to dispatch the sad shit sack that minoritarianism has made of the US, politically and demographically.Replies: @kaganovitch, @jorge videla, @Pixo, @Erik L, @Hypnotoad666
Nah, but it’s going to provide a great opportunity for ‘verbalist shysters’ to get a hold of some of the loot that these universities have in their endowments, so there’s that.
opps, did I shout?
How would Kagan respond if affirmative action was being used to hold Jews to their 2% “share”?Replies: @HammerJack, @Alden, @Jack D, @Mr. XYZ, @Wj
Yesterday’s ruling won’t end affirmative action. First, it only applies to one university and its students. And when California’s 1996 anti affirmative action proposition 209 was upheld by the courts nothing happened. Except that qualified Asians were admitted instead of grossly unqualified blacks and Hispanics. And the percentage of White students went down every year.
Like Prop 209 passing by a substantial majority the Harvard ruling could go nowhere. The Asian grandparents need to start making huge donations. Or hiring lawyers to file discrimination lawsuits when their kids are denied admission. Court rulings are laws under our did functional system. And it takes a lot of legal fees to enforce laws.
Mike Tracey saying the quiet part out loud about the woman “representing Blacks” on the white Court.
Did you sleep through the history lesson about when blacks had the same achievement levels as the Romans, Chinese, etc? It was a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away . . . in a place called Wakanda. Look into it, bigot.
Yes and no. There are plenty of loopholes but the Court also warned Harvard not to make the evasion too blatant. Unless the Asian % goes up (and the black %) goes down, they are going to be back in court.
Just the fact that they will have to cheat and do it under the table instead of openly acting in a racist way is a victory.
Any time you try for proxy measures such as “hardship”, there are plenty of whites and Asians who have had tough lives too (and better grades and scores than blacks).
As for “being a proven victim of racism”, I don’t thing Jussie Smollett wants to go to Harvard and otherwise actual proven racial victims are thin on the ground in 2023. This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now. Rosa Parks is dead of old age.
Indeed.
"Unless the Asian % goes up (and the black %) goes down, they are going to be back in court."
Which could take years to get to the Supreme Court.
"This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now."
LOL, didn't Jewish lawyers like yourself have something to do with it? At least that is what the unz commetariat would claim.Replies: @SFG, @Curle
It creates incentive for the MSM to become ever more hysterical and declare that trivial distant events are actually seminal moments that define young Black lives.
How would Kagan respond if affirmative action was being used to hold Jews to their 2% “share”?Replies: @HammerJack, @Alden, @Jack D, @Mr. XYZ, @Wj
When she voted against ending affirmative action she did so as the last remaining Jew on the court.
The court has 6 Catholics though, in a country that is 20% Catholic. I don’t understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism. The Jews need to talk to the Roman Church’s PR agent.
Anti-Semitism practically speaking doesn't exist, and never has. Goes back to pre-Christian Alexandria circa BC 300. tell ya why. In a war, aren't you supposed to kill your enemies? And who has been the functional enemies of the white European Christians, for ever and ever? If I recall, you guys even have a long ancient tactical book about it, called the Talmud. Yeah, I read it, dude.
One time I read this very interesting book, it was called "Three Thousand Years: the History of the Jews in Europe, or, How to Not Take a F#cking Hint."
So there's that.
Sounds great! Hand over your job, pension, property, and grandkids' spots at university to the POC.
Waddamean, no?Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @Prester John
“I won’t stop fighting for young people with big dreams who deserve an equal chance to pursue their future.”
Who’s fighting for what now?
If you can’t fight for this…..
or this….
then I’m not entirely sure what it is that you’re fighting for, jack..
clue me in when you’re a bit more specific, Liz.
Based Clarence Thomas!
Just the fact that they will have to cheat and do it under the table instead of openly acting in a racist way is a victory.
Any time you try for proxy measures such as "hardship", there are plenty of whites and Asians who have had tough lives too (and better grades and scores than blacks).
As for "being a proven victim of racism", I don't thing Jussie Smollett wants to go to Harvard and otherwise actual proven racial victims are thin on the ground in 2023. This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now. Rosa Parks is dead of old age.Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Corvinus, @houston 1992
Relying on hardship will give more help to poor white gentiles, Jews, Asians, blacks, and Hispanics and give less help to well-off blacks and Hispanics. This strikes me as eminently fair (people aren’t personally responsible for their parents’ life circumstances either, after all) and is also something that white nationalists should support since it could reduce the Jewish percentage at US elite universities relative to gentile whites, especially those gentile whites who are smart but of relatively underprivileged backgrounds.
How would Kagan respond if affirmative action was being used to hold Jews to their 2% “share”?Replies: @HammerJack, @Alden, @Jack D, @Mr. XYZ, @Wj
This is actually what white nationalists should ideally demand in the name of equity, and I say this as a quarter-Jew myself who is likely to suffer from such a policy. The issue that such a policy would have, however, is that widespread intermarriage between Jews and gentiles could result in 1/4 and 1/8 Jews with Jewish last names being affected by Jewish quotas but not 3/4 and 7/8 Jews with non-Jewish last names, which strikes me as being eminently unfair since the former have much more Jewish ancestry (excluding converts) relative to the latter.
If I was a younger man, I'd suggest starting a betting pool on how long this decision will last. But since the Supremes--the black robed guys, not Mary, Flo and Diana--are on average younger than me, I can't see much point.
But politics is downstream of demographics. And under the minoritarian raj, American politics and demographics just gets ever more embarrassing and depressing.
I'd like to think that down the road there will be some sort of broad white-Hispanic-Asian middle-working class coalition that will toss off this Jewish minoritarian ideology and my kids' America will slump toward Brazil in a more Latin style--color continuum inequality. And critically smarck down the "must have immigration!" bleaters and avoid downloading Steve's "World's Most Important Graph". But unfortunately this toxic minoritarian garbage is deeply ingrained now and is the iron bowl for so many.
I don't know if the Chinese will be able to get their act together to tackle the eugenic fertility nut. The Chicoms crew of late looks like a gaggle of pathetic incompetent grifters ... but they got scale and ergo some time. If they ever do get it together on the eugenic fertility question, a flick of their wrist--or the Wuhan Institute of Virology--will be sufficient to dispatch the sad shit sack that minoritarianism has made of the US, politically and demographically.Replies: @kaganovitch, @jorge videla, @Pixo, @Erik L, @Hypnotoad666
most impressive thing about all the opinions is how dumb the justices sounded.
and…
there should be no universities and colleges in the first place and no grades…just tests, objective tests.
The court has 6 Catholics though, in a country that is 20% Catholic. I don't understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism. The Jews need to talk to the Roman Church's PR agent.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @res, @Mike Conrad, @Wilkey
“I don’t understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism.”
Anti-Semitism practically speaking doesn’t exist, and never has. Goes back to pre-Christian Alexandria circa BC 300. tell ya why. In a war, aren’t you supposed to kill your enemies? And who has been the functional enemies of the white European Christians, for ever and ever? If I recall, you guys even have a long ancient tactical book about it, called the Talmud. Yeah, I read it, dude.
One time I read this very interesting book, it was called “Three Thousand Years: the History of the Jews in Europe, or, How to Not Take a F#cking Hint.”
So there’s that.
By the way, your use of the phrase “LARPERer” is in itself problematic. Name an “affirmative action” beneficiary who is NOT a LARPER.Replies: @Robertson, @John Milton’s Ghost, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Mike Ricci, @res, @Jack D
Warren’s Native ancestry is not significant enough to gain any legal or cultural recognition by Native agencies.
Great constitutional scholar Kamala Harris says the majority didnt even know what the case was “about”.
“Empirical: Relying on or derived from observation or experiment.”
“Statistics: The mathematics of the collection, organization, and interpretation of numerical data, especially the analysis of population characteristics by inference from sampling.“
It appears our VP doesn’t know the difference.
“I won’t stop fighting for young people with big dreams who deserve an equal chance to pursue their future.”
Methinks this fair-skinned Injun and her raiding party of allied Democrats are ready to get back on the warpath. Hopefully she won’t be too liquored up because that’s when they get really crazy! Guard your scalps closely.
The court has 6 Catholics though, in a country that is 20% Catholic. I don't understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism. The Jews need to talk to the Roman Church's PR agent.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @res, @Mike Conrad, @Wilkey
Alito is half Jewish, seeing as Jews are half Italian. Sotomayor may have Sephardic ancestry.
If I was a younger man, I'd suggest starting a betting pool on how long this decision will last. But since the Supremes--the black robed guys, not Mary, Flo and Diana--are on average younger than me, I can't see much point.
But politics is downstream of demographics. And under the minoritarian raj, American politics and demographics just gets ever more embarrassing and depressing.
I'd like to think that down the road there will be some sort of broad white-Hispanic-Asian middle-working class coalition that will toss off this Jewish minoritarian ideology and my kids' America will slump toward Brazil in a more Latin style--color continuum inequality. And critically smarck down the "must have immigration!" bleaters and avoid downloading Steve's "World's Most Important Graph". But unfortunately this toxic minoritarian garbage is deeply ingrained now and is the iron bowl for so many.
I don't know if the Chinese will be able to get their act together to tackle the eugenic fertility nut. The Chicoms crew of late looks like a gaggle of pathetic incompetent grifters ... but they got scale and ergo some time. If they ever do get it together on the eugenic fertility question, a flick of their wrist--or the Wuhan Institute of Virology--will be sufficient to dispatch the sad shit sack that minoritarianism has made of the US, politically and demographically.Replies: @kaganovitch, @jorge videla, @Pixo, @Erik L, @Hypnotoad666
“ Does anyone believe this stuff is going to magically stop? Especially in college admissions?”
I do. The weaker state AA bans reduced unqualified black enrollment by about 75% at elite public colleges. And these weaker laws couldn’t be enforced in federal court.
Universities that resist will be at the butt end of federal injunctions and attorney fee awards.
This decision means whites and asians can sue for discrimination in federal court and win big.
A covert neutered AA like Berkeley and UT have now will persist at wealthier leftist colleges in lefty jurisdictions. Harvard is so rich and committed to anti-white hate they are OK with paying the huge cost for another few years of illegal anti-white policies. Most universities lack this funding and commitment.
In your case, you are expressing this sentiment ruefully as someone who is black-pilled. Ms. Rubin is expressing the same thoughts while doing her "I just sacked the quarterback" celebration dance.
That Unabomber guy's take on Leftism was really smart. He could have accomplished much if he wasn't a homicidal maniac.
Une véritable avalanche d’ironies
One gets the sense that "justice" in the minoritarian imagination is a mental mashup of "just us". So as usual ... I've got the actual solution!
Let us separate whites off into separate areas where they can not get in the way of non-whites' "march" toward "justice. We will call these separate places "nations". And non-whites freed whites will then be able to march on to their promised land of "justice" ... or "just us".Replies: @Redneck Farmer, @danand, @The Alarmist
“Let us separate whites off into separate areas where they can not get in the way of non-whites’ “march” toward “justice.”
AnotherDad, this speaker today at California’s reparations task force meeting agrees, divorce is the answer:
https://www.youtube.com/live/IVr4icHhSZ0?feature=share&t=2477
But the most fundamental is right there, staring everyone in the face:
If white gentiles are so terrible why do all these minorities insist precisely on the right to be around whitey--join his clubs and businesses, be in his neighborhoods and schools, get into his nations?
If someone is oppressing you, you should want to get the hell away! No?Replies: @Anonymous
South Africa is a more likely destination than Wakanda and they know it.
https://nypost.com/2023/06/30/sparks-fly-at-californias-final-reparations-task-force-meeting-nows-the-time-for-a-divorce/With expectations like that being set what is going to happen when reality asserts itself?
The Catholic thing is pretty crazy–and embarrassing.
You’re think the Republicans would easily find high quality Protestants for the Supremes. There are lots of high quality Protestant people in America, more than any other group. But the Republicans Protestants have in recent decades been–with the notable exception of Rehnquist–really an embarrassing lot. At best sort of ho-hum–Stewart, Powell … and mediocre Burger, O’Connor… to disasters–the politician Warren, the arrogant Stevens, the pathetic Souter, to the ridiculous Blackman.
Basically, the Democrats have needed Jews to competently do their when-you-really-think-about-it-the-constitution-means-the-opposite-of-what-it-says pretzel logic. (Now they are stuck having the likes of “the Wise Latina” or Ketanji do it and it’s just way more open and embarrassing.) And likewise–but much more weirdly–the Republicans have needed Catholics–usually Jesuit educated–to competently argue for “hey-the-Constitution-really-means-what-it-says”.
Trump finally found a seemingly competent conservative Protestant … and turns out he’s actually a Catholic.
We keep hearing about the Ivyness of the Court, but what about their secondary schooling? How does it break down by public, parochial, and boarding status?
Nice point. WTF happened to the Anglos, who once had the biggest empire evah. Same that that turned Athenians into gyro merchants and Romans into macaroni munching mandolin players (Evola)?
As the German says on Fawlty Towers, however did the win the war?Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Prester John
I do. The weaker state AA bans reduced unqualified black enrollment by about 75% at elite public colleges. And these weaker laws couldn’t be enforced in federal court.
Universities that resist will be at the butt end of federal injunctions and attorney fee awards.
This decision means whites and asians can sue for discrimination in federal court and win big.
A covert neutered AA like Berkeley and UT have now will persist at wealthier leftist colleges in lefty jurisdictions. Harvard is so rich and committed to anti-white hate they are OK with paying the huge cost for another few years of illegal anti-white policies. Most universities lack this funding and commitment.Replies: @Ralph L, @Inquiring Mind
Harvard has enough money to loan to its students. If they’re really committed to DIE, they can forgo federal money and discriminate openly, and I wish they would. It would be fun if their carefully-chosen woke students and faculty protested until they did, and then later their subpar students defaulted.
Famously Hillsdale College and Bob Jones University did this. Harvard can’t. Maybe Williams College and similar wealthy leftist liberal arts colleges without big research budgets.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/opinions/yang-harvard-tuition/index.htmlHere is the election outcome (unsurprisingly they failed).
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2016/05/harvard-overseers-election-results
Interesting to notice one of the "preferred" candidates.Even more interesting to note that only three appear on both lists--including the black and the Hispanic. I wonder what the deal was with the others.
Ron's article about the outcome. Are the actual vote counts for each candidate available anywhere?
https://www.unz.com/announcement/win-some-lose-some/
BTW, here is the eventual Harvard response. (quote from Ron at the end of linked article)
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2016/09/harvard-overseer-election-reformsReplies: @Ralph L
AnotherDad, this speaker today at California’s reparations task force meeting agrees, divorce is the answer:
https://www.youtube.com/live/IVr4icHhSZ0?feature=share&t=2477Replies: @AnotherDad, @JR Ewing, @res
There really is a political gold mine in the contradictions inherent in minoritarian ideology.
But the most fundamental is right there, staring everyone in the face:
If white gentiles are so terrible why do all these minorities insist precisely on the right to be around whitey–join his clubs and businesses, be in his neighborhoods and schools, get into his nations?
If someone is oppressing you, you should want to get the hell away! No?
Sounds great! Hand over your job, pension, property, and grandkids' spots at university to the POC.
Waddamean, no?Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @Prester John
She’s waiting for her “land acknowledgement”!
Though her tribe wasn’t from anywhere near Cambridge.
You're think the Republicans would easily find high quality Protestants for the Supremes. There are lots of high quality Protestant people in America, more than any other group. But the Republicans Protestants have in recent decades been--with the notable exception of Rehnquist--really an embarrassing lot. At best sort of ho-hum--Stewart, Powell ... and mediocre Burger, O'Connor... to disasters--the politician Warren, the arrogant Stevens, the pathetic Souter, to the ridiculous Blackman.
Basically, the Democrats have needed Jews to competently do their when-you-really-think-about-it-the-constitution-means-the-opposite-of-what-it-says pretzel logic. (Now they are stuck having the likes of "the Wise Latina" or Ketanji do it and it's just way more open and embarrassing.) And likewise--but much more weirdly--the Republicans have needed Catholics--usually Jesuit educated--to competently argue for "hey-the-Constitution-really-means-what-it-says".
Trump finally found a seemingly competent conservative Protestant ... and turns out he's actually a Catholic.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James J. O'Meara, @Catdompanj, @Hibernian
“Protestant” was always a catch-all term for a very diverse lot. In recent decades, they’ve bifurcated into two warring groups of crystal-gazers and snake-handlers. The Romanizing of SCOTUS wasn’t planned, but neither did it happen by accident.
We keep hearing about the Ivyness of the Court, but what about their secondary schooling? How does it break down by public, parochial, and boarding status?
He looks around and around,
He sees angels in the architecture.
— Paul Simon
Warren writes inelegantly.
Beware the Law Squaw with a tomahawk. She’s on the warpath.
I dunno, do you think this crooked Senator is giving Injuns a bad name?
She may be savage but she’s hardly noble.
‘extremist’ doesn’t mean what fauxcahontass thinks it means.
Idiot law professors who can’t employ English vocab correctly is where AA gets you!!!
You're think the Republicans would easily find high quality Protestants for the Supremes. There are lots of high quality Protestant people in America, more than any other group. But the Republicans Protestants have in recent decades been--with the notable exception of Rehnquist--really an embarrassing lot. At best sort of ho-hum--Stewart, Powell ... and mediocre Burger, O'Connor... to disasters--the politician Warren, the arrogant Stevens, the pathetic Souter, to the ridiculous Blackman.
Basically, the Democrats have needed Jews to competently do their when-you-really-think-about-it-the-constitution-means-the-opposite-of-what-it-says pretzel logic. (Now they are stuck having the likes of "the Wise Latina" or Ketanji do it and it's just way more open and embarrassing.) And likewise--but much more weirdly--the Republicans have needed Catholics--usually Jesuit educated--to competently argue for "hey-the-Constitution-really-means-what-it-says".
Trump finally found a seemingly competent conservative Protestant ... and turns out he's actually a Catholic.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James J. O'Meara, @Catdompanj, @Hibernian
Basically, the Democrats have needed Jews to competently do their when-you-really-think-about-it-the-constitution-means-the-opposite-of-what-it-says pretzel logic. (Now they are stuck having the likes of “the Wise Latina” or Ketanji do it and it’s just way more open and embarrassing.) And likewise–but much more weirdly–the Republicans have needed Catholics–usually Jesuit educated–to competently argue for “hey-the-Constitution-really-means-what-it-says”.
Nice point. WTF happened to the Anglos, who once had the biggest empire evah. Same that that turned Athenians into gyro merchants and Romans into macaroni munching mandolin players (Evola)?
As the German says on Fawlty Towers, however did the win the war?
After "The Empah" officially collapsed after WWII, Churchill handed the reins over to the Yoo Ess of A under the assumption that the old Anglo-Saxon ruling class would remain in place. They, too, eventually collapsed.
He never anticipated A. Blinken, V. Nuland etal.
He sees angels in the architecture.
-- Paul Simon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miax0Jpe5mAReplies: @James J. O'Meara
And when you call me you can call me “Al.”
The court has 6 Catholics though, in a country that is 20% Catholic. I don't understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism. The Jews need to talk to the Roman Church's PR agent.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @res, @Mike Conrad, @Wilkey
Gorsuch is not a Catholic anymore, he converted to Episcopalianism/Anglicanism when he married his British wife.
Jack is right about the numbers. The court briefly was 6 Catholics-3 Jews-0 Protestants.
-- Then the Catholics dipped briefly to 5, and we finally got a Protestant again, with Catholic-raised-Anglican Gorsuch replacing Scalia.
-- But then the too-arrogant-to-leave-during-Obama notorious RBG cost the Democrats/Jews a seat and the boring Catholic read-the-Constitution Catholics were back up to 6.
-- Then Breyer responsibly from the perspective of party politics, retired and the hapless Biden had to appoint Ketanji to get black girl magic. And now the Jews are down to 1.
So it's 6-2-1 in the world's most populous Protestant nation.
The progressive side's "jurisprudence" is just going to get a lot dumber and dumber if the Democrats can't slap smart Jewish guys on there to make shit up. These "women of color" ... LOL.
The other joke is the two blacks, to only one Hispanic in an America that is rapidly Hispanicizing. (Even with their birthrates down, Hispanic gals are popping out 1/4 of American babies ... and the border is wide open.) But apparently America needs black "wisdom".
At least all these folks now are solidly younger than Biden--and way more sentient--so hopefully we'll be spared another Ketanji level genius at least for a few years.Replies: @Johnnie Skywalker
https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2016/01/14/BostonGlobe.com/Metro/Images/da455b60-4ce3-4e99-8eae-c830c7e511d2.jpg
Rockford Files aficionado and occasional commenter on Unz ReviewReplies: @Richard B, @Corpse Tooth
“Anonymous”
LOL
OT, but noticing that intelligent women have fewer babies was around in 1942. Demography is important for fighting wars aka cannon fodder.
https://www.nature.com/articles/150646a0
Parent’s Revolt by Richard and Kathleen Titmuss.
Peter Bredon – “How did we win the war?” – on Jersey and Guernsey the German emplacements are most impressive – gas filters, entrances covered by gun-slits, telephone control of the guns, lots of science. The Brits just ignored them, left them alone and they surrendered when Germany did.
Nice point. WTF happened to the Anglos, who once had the biggest empire evah. Same that that turned Athenians into gyro merchants and Romans into macaroni munching mandolin players (Evola)?
As the German says on Fawlty Towers, however did the win the war?Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Prester John
There is no • Very good point! tag, but that was. I’d love to see that. Let the Black! intellectuals and Harvard fight it out, and leave us taxpayers out of it.
Even if true, so what? She still has Indian ancestry. Her ancestry is her ancestry. You can’t take that away from her.
But the most fundamental is right there, staring everyone in the face:
If white gentiles are so terrible why do all these minorities insist precisely on the right to be around whitey--join his clubs and businesses, be in his neighborhoods and schools, get into his nations?
If someone is oppressing you, you should want to get the hell away! No?Replies: @Anonymous
Isn’t the answer to that question that white people stole all the power and resources? They possess so much of it illegitimately that POC and Jews need to come to them to take it back or achieve a more just distribution?
AnotherDad, this speaker today at California’s reparations task force meeting agrees, divorce is the answer:
https://www.youtube.com/live/IVr4icHhSZ0?feature=share&t=2477Replies: @AnotherDad, @JR Ewing, @res
He might say that, but he certainly doesn’t mean it. Deep down they know – at least the smarter ones – that without white Americans to prop them up, they’d be in pretty much the same place as sub-saharan Africa in a matter of years.
South Africa is a more likely destination than Wakanda and they know it.
We are getting more justice, both racial and otherwise, with AA being honestly ruled as unconstitutional racism, which it is and has always been. Now society needs to help have more kids living with married parents, and it doesn’t know how to do it.
Good point.
The Left is pretty crafty at screaming MUH DEMOCRACY! when they have the numbers (good bye, electoral college); but plenty happy to scream BASIC HUMAN RIGHTS! when cramming unpopular programs (hello, mass immigration, et al) down our throats.
Good comment; I can largely agree; but the effort to placate Blacks with AA hasn’t yielded particularly happy results. Quite a bit of ground has been ceded, and it’s never enough, which calls into question why have a multi-ethnic society if some of the ethnicities have some fundamental incompatibilities?
Correct. The Cherokees , with hundreds of thousands of whiter than rice pretendians would have no place for her.
How would Kagan respond if affirmative action was being used to hold Jews to their 2% “share”?Replies: @HammerJack, @Alden, @Jack D, @Mr. XYZ, @Wj
Rat face merrick garland almost put the number to 44 % in 2016.
Another Karen heard from.
Put that in your peace pipe and smoke it, Lizzie.
One gets the sense that "justice" in the minoritarian imagination is a mental mashup of "just us". So as usual ... I've got the actual solution!
Let us separate whites off into separate areas where they can not get in the way of non-whites' "march" toward "justice. We will call these separate places "nations". And non-whites freed whites will then be able to march on to their promised land of "justice" ... or "just us".Replies: @Redneck Farmer, @danand, @The Alarmist
With luck, we’ll eventually get them marched to the rice fields.
Just the fact that they will have to cheat and do it under the table instead of openly acting in a racist way is a victory.
Any time you try for proxy measures such as "hardship", there are plenty of whites and Asians who have had tough lives too (and better grades and scores than blacks).
As for "being a proven victim of racism", I don't thing Jussie Smollett wants to go to Harvard and otherwise actual proven racial victims are thin on the ground in 2023. This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now. Rosa Parks is dead of old age.Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Corvinus, @houston 1992
“There are plenty of loopholes but the Court also warned Harvard not to make the evasion too blatant.”
Indeed.
“Unless the Asian % goes up (and the black %) goes down, they are going to be back in court.”
Which could take years to get to the Supreme Court.
“This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now.”
LOL, didn’t Jewish lawyers like yourself have something to do with it? At least that is what the unz commetariat would claim.
Just the fact that they will have to cheat and do it under the table instead of openly acting in a racist way is a victory.
Any time you try for proxy measures such as "hardship", there are plenty of whites and Asians who have had tough lives too (and better grades and scores than blacks).
As for "being a proven victim of racism", I don't thing Jussie Smollett wants to go to Harvard and otherwise actual proven racial victims are thin on the ground in 2023. This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now. Rosa Parks is dead of old age.Replies: @Mr. XYZ, @Corvinus, @houston 1992
The ruling creates perverse incentives to manufacture a racist event that somehow defined ones life. Why should not a limited variety of suitable hair products or the humiliation of having to wait for a manager to open the locked case and let one select a little be seminal?
It creates incentive for the MSM to become ever more hysterical and declare that trivial distant events are actually seminal moments that define young Black lives.
My old decent proposal-keep the AA:
Whites- 60-65%
Asians- 10-12%
Blacks-10-12%
Mestizos- 10-20%
Pure meritocracy never works; also, Asians, mostly east, do not excel,comparatively to their figures at elite west coast universities, in post-doc research areas & intellectual innovation
Many whites will pay for their yellow fever.
Sounds great! Hand over your job, pension, property, and grandkids' spots at university to the POC.
Waddamean, no?Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @Prester John
She’d rather hand over yours.
Indeed.
"Unless the Asian % goes up (and the black %) goes down, they are going to be back in court."
Which could take years to get to the Supreme Court.
"This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now."
LOL, didn't Jewish lawyers like yourself have something to do with it? At least that is what the unz commetariat would claim.Replies: @SFG, @Curle
Look up who’s collecting the SFFA cases.
The lawsuit was run by a guy named Blum,who slightly resembles that old monster Kuntsler.
One thing you can count on,where there are Jewish radicals fighting for tik tok olam,or whatever its called,they’re not doing it for whiteys sake.
Will this put more white males asses in Harvard seats? I doubt it.
As for Asians,fuck ‘ em. They have their own universities in China.
Probably better than ours.
Uh, the obvious question: if affirmative action, that is racial preferences, is illegal in even private college admissions, how can diversity, equity, inclusion, that is racial references, be legal in hiring by private companies?
The Roberts Court allows a dodge here by treating private colleges that get public aid as subject to the Equal Protection Clause of the 14th, while private companies are only subject to the Civil Rights Act. But still . . . the CRA is basically the 14th as statute and applying much more broadly, So . . .?
Sounds great! Hand over your job, pension, property, and grandkids' spots at university to the POC.
Waddamean, no?Replies: @Anonymous, @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Reg Cæsar, @SFG, @Prester John
Do as I say, not as I do.
No, nothing will change. Didn’t read the opinion but I assumed there would be at least one loophole (they are the lifeblood of the legal profession), and this one comes as no surprise.
Nice point. WTF happened to the Anglos, who once had the biggest empire evah. Same that that turned Athenians into gyro merchants and Romans into macaroni munching mandolin players (Evola)?
As the German says on Fawlty Towers, however did the win the war?Replies: @Bardon Kaldian, @Prester John
“WTF happened to the Anglos, who once had the biggest empire empire evah.”
After “The Empah” officially collapsed after WWII, Churchill handed the reins over to the Yoo Ess of A under the assumption that the old Anglo-Saxon ruling class would remain in place. They, too, eventually collapsed.
He never anticipated A. Blinken, V. Nuland etal.
So, what she’s saying is that American law is an …
If I was a younger man, I'd suggest starting a betting pool on how long this decision will last. But since the Supremes--the black robed guys, not Mary, Flo and Diana--are on average younger than me, I can't see much point.
But politics is downstream of demographics. And under the minoritarian raj, American politics and demographics just gets ever more embarrassing and depressing.
I'd like to think that down the road there will be some sort of broad white-Hispanic-Asian middle-working class coalition that will toss off this Jewish minoritarian ideology and my kids' America will slump toward Brazil in a more Latin style--color continuum inequality. And critically smarck down the "must have immigration!" bleaters and avoid downloading Steve's "World's Most Important Graph". But unfortunately this toxic minoritarian garbage is deeply ingrained now and is the iron bowl for so many.
I don't know if the Chinese will be able to get their act together to tackle the eugenic fertility nut. The Chicoms crew of late looks like a gaggle of pathetic incompetent grifters ... but they got scale and ergo some time. If they ever do get it together on the eugenic fertility question, a flick of their wrist--or the Wuhan Institute of Virology--will be sufficient to dispatch the sad shit sack that minoritarianism has made of the US, politically and demographically.Replies: @kaganovitch, @jorge videla, @Pixo, @Erik L, @Hypnotoad666
Didn’t a Jew start the organization that brought this case to the supreme court? Can’t we even catch a break from you today?
Harris, So says the direct descendant of Jamaican slave owners on her father’s side. And a number two caste Indian Mom.
The Ivies (yes, I’m a grad) used to be where upper-class boys were both educated and “finished” for a lifetime of noblesse oblige. Finishing them was most important. At Harvard, whatever they learned in the classroom, which often wasn’t much, paled before what they learned from each other. The parchment was as expected as their future jobs were assured.
Today, a kid goes to university to 1) get the parchment/job 2) learn something concrete 3) make contacts.
Was the past so bad? Remember, Harvard was never ONLY about learning. A bright kid who could have handled the classroom aspect of Harvard may not have had the social skills and background to thrive there. Michelle Obama not only wasn’t very bright, but she was socially gawky and insecure (remember her cringe-worthy behavior as First Lady?), lower-middle-class in attitude and thus understandably uncomfortable.
In the past, women separated from men, upper from the middle class, and race-ethnicities never mixed. Society seemed to run rather smoothly this way even though WWI devastated this social order in Europe.
I’m not completely devoid of hope. Look around. Here we are. Surviving. We’ve sloughed off the bottom half of our culture and now ignore it to the best of our ability. We marry each other, ignore the media’s cultural propaganda, read old books, listen to classical music, enjoy 19th century art, attend church and … well, patiently wait for our inevitable renaissance.
Diversity is not strength but weakness. It could be self-correcting.
Our time will come.
So that; breeding soldiers and mothers of soldiers was the real reason for the Europeans adopting socialism and child benefits after the WW2 slaughter.
Right, Jews. It’s always Jews to you.
In point of fact Ketanji Brown Jackson is Protestant.
Clarence Thomas did something similar after his first marriage, but reverted.
By the way, your use of the phrase “LARPERer” is in itself problematic. Name an “affirmative action” beneficiary who is NOT a LARPER.Replies: @Robertson, @John Milton’s Ghost, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Mike Ricci, @res, @Jack D
And it seems all humans came originally from Africa. Are we all eligible for African-American affirmative action status?
What guidelines would you use for considering someone an American Indian for affirmative action purposes?
There is a difference between proudly asserting a connection (however tenuous in Warren’s case) to Indian heritage and benefiting from affirmative action based on that connection.
That is more interesting. Can’t tell if it is a sign of a sophisticated troll having fun or not.
The court has 6 Catholics though, in a country that is 20% Catholic. I don't understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism. The Jews need to talk to the Roman Church's PR agent.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @res, @Mike Conrad, @Wilkey
3.3x over-representation vs. 5x. Methinks you have thing backwards.
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_LevinReplies: @Pixo, @Pixo, @Wilkey, @Ben tillman, @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian, @Colin Wright
Sotomayor is not so innumerate that she can’t understand that admissions is a zero sum game because the number of seats is (more or less) fixed, but she doesn’t care.
AA got started in an era where blacks (~12% of the population) were the only beneficiaries and had negligible enrollment at places like Harvard Law School (<1%). So if you put your thumb on the scale a little bit for blacks and doubled or tripled black enrollment from 5 guys to 10 or 15 in a class of 500+, the damage to whites was negligible and diffuse – you would never know which 5 or 10 white applicants didn't make the cut.
Now fast forward to current day America – the "minorities" are now the majority. Stanford is now 26% white and falling. Instead of just blacks you have competing minorities – some of whom (Latinos) qualify for AA and others of which (Asians) don't, for reasons that cannot be clearly articulated. (You are not allowed to say it is because Asians are naturally smarter than Latinos and you are hard pressed to conjure any difference in levels of discrimination if any – if anything, historically anti-Asian sentiment in America was stronger than anti-Latin sentiment). And maybe half of AA blacks at elite schools are African-African or Caribbean immigrants. If you are the child of Eritrean immigrants then you get AA but if your parents are from 50 miles away across the strait in Yemen, you don't. The whole system was unsustainable anyway.
Having a small set aside for an "oppressed" minority in a mostly white society was an act of charity but having a government sponsored and sanctioned system of ethnic set asides in a multi-cultural society is a recipe for eternal inter-ethnic strife as everyone tries to get their "fair" share of the pie. We are headed in that direction anyway but at the very least this tendency should be discouraged rather than more deeply entrenched into our legal structures.
The other huge problem w. AA that you alluded to is that it started out as charity. But then it immediately became like an admission of white guilt and an entitlement program. So it made blacks even more resentful and entitled. Even if they evade by cheating this is still a huge moral and legal victory against the grievance culture.
My quibble here is that ethnic political allocation is just per-spec once you are multi-ethnic in a democracy. In old imperial orders--that you seem to like--the general program is "pay your taxes, don't cause trouble and STFU". Maybe the emperor doles out some special privileges. "Hey the Jews get to middle man or tax farm and your peasants don't to organize and chase 'em outta town".But as soon as you have any sort of democracy in a multi-ethic polity you're going to have ethnic squabbling. That's isn't some sort of failure of the society ... it's baked in. People going about politics. (I could hunt around for the appropriate Lee Kwan Yew quote, but the principle is obvious.) In India were there isn't just one endogamous tribe, but hundreds, the strife over "reservations"--i.e. AA--is ubiquitous. They've had riots with beats and killings and continual political jockeying to get your group classified as reservation worthy.If you want to have "nice things", like self-government, limited government, freedom, ho-hum meritocracy -- you want to have a one-people nation.~~As I've said a few times, if we could stop the immigrant loons, and end immigrant now, the American situation is probably still tractable. Absent future immigration Asians and Hispanics will merge into the American core.I could foresee a future America with
-- a mixed white, Asian, Jewish elite and professional class
-- a mixed white, Asian middle class, plus some blacks
-- a mixed Hispanic, white working class, plus most blacks
-- a mostly black and downscale Hispanic lumpen proletariat, with of course a lot of black criminalsIt's the outlier endogamous groups that are a particular pain in the ass. Blacks--because of race differences. Jews and now Muslims--genius!--because of religion.Fortunately, secular Jews are dying out, though still rabidly inflicting their crazy upon us. The Orthodox are growing rapidly, but more based and not an immediate issue. (Longer term--should really be in their own nation--Israel. May eventually have those issues with the Amish as well.)
But ... all of above blue sky only works we stop importing people. Import people--especially people that can form their own endogamous tribe--import trouble. We could end up with tribes of Chinese and Hindus in addition to the disaster of having religiously separate Muslims. And then if we keep importing blacks ...
I do love the Elizabeth Warrens of the world. People like her just highlight the irrational power grab behind leftists’ rules (eg being a woman is a feeling, not biology). No reason for Patriots to step in the middle of the circular firing squad.
You're think the Republicans would easily find high quality Protestants for the Supremes. There are lots of high quality Protestant people in America, more than any other group. But the Republicans Protestants have in recent decades been--with the notable exception of Rehnquist--really an embarrassing lot. At best sort of ho-hum--Stewart, Powell ... and mediocre Burger, O'Connor... to disasters--the politician Warren, the arrogant Stevens, the pathetic Souter, to the ridiculous Blackman.
Basically, the Democrats have needed Jews to competently do their when-you-really-think-about-it-the-constitution-means-the-opposite-of-what-it-says pretzel logic. (Now they are stuck having the likes of "the Wise Latina" or Ketanji do it and it's just way more open and embarrassing.) And likewise--but much more weirdly--the Republicans have needed Catholics--usually Jesuit educated--to competently argue for "hey-the-Constitution-really-means-what-it-says".
Trump finally found a seemingly competent conservative Protestant ... and turns out he's actually a Catholic.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James J. O'Meara, @Catdompanj, @Hibernian
Would these “high quality” Protestants ( with denominations led by pro choice, pro same sex marriage, female and lgbtq ministers) have been brave enough to overturn Roe V Wade?
AnotherDad, this speaker today at California’s reparations task force meeting agrees, divorce is the answer:
https://www.youtube.com/live/IVr4icHhSZ0?feature=share&t=2477Replies: @AnotherDad, @JR Ewing, @res
The really fun part is they are thinking of “divorce” as implying blacks get half of everything.
https://nypost.com/2023/06/30/sparks-fly-at-californias-final-reparations-task-force-meeting-nows-the-time-for-a-divorce/
With expectations like that being set what is going to happen when reality asserts itself?
It’s not a question of which is the higher multiple. “Catholic overrepresentation” is just not a thing at all. In general, Unzites complain endlessly about Joos but nary a word about Catholics. And BTW the millions and millions of illegal Latino immigrants are overwhelmingly Catholic. We are being flooded by Catholics.
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_Levin
Not really, and definitely not “overwhelmingly.”
The share of Latino children who are baptized in a Catholic church is under a third. That is the simplest possible commitment to the faith, you aren’t even “culturally Catholic” if you don’t do that.
Evangelical church attendance now exceeds Catholic service attendance in some Latino areas.
Jews supported third world migration and feminism the entire 20th Century at about a 70% rate while Catholics dropped down sometime around 1940 or 1950 to the same 40% rate of non-Catholic northern whites.
While this is unfair to non-leftist Jews such as yourself, it is hardly without a factual and logical basis.Replies: @Bill Jones
I object to immigrants because they're immigrants. That they're Catholic is neither here nor there. And in any case, most of the 'Catholics' are purely nominal; those who take their religion seriously are mostly Protestant Evangelicals. And there are a lot of those: El Salvador, for example, is one-third Protestant.
Does that make it all better?
The court has 6 Catholics though, in a country that is 20% Catholic. I don't understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism. The Jews need to talk to the Roman Church's PR agent.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @res, @Mike Conrad, @Wilkey
Although I can’t presume to speak for the American right, it’s probably relevant that Catholics en masse haven’t worked quite so hard to subvert every single thing that was once good about this once-great nation.
By the way, your use of the phrase “LARPERer” is in itself problematic. Name an “affirmative action” beneficiary who is NOT a LARPER.Replies: @Robertson, @John Milton’s Ghost, @The Anti-Gnostic, @Mike Ricci, @res, @Jack D
Maybe this would fly over at Salon (does that still exist?) or some Dem forum where Hunter Biden is not considered to be a criminal either but the Warren DNA results were too thin to provide even a veneer of legitimacy to any impartial observer. Do you really think that people here (who are less than impartial when it comes to Dem politicians) were really going to buy that “fact” for a second? This is not “Snopes” .
Why don’t you tell us that Warren being an Indian is “settled science” just like Warren says that AA is “settled law”? For the supposedly “progressive” party, Leftists seem to use “appeal to authority” a lot.
LOL, as a Jew, that is in your DNA. Or so I've been told by the unz commentariat. You really need to be more introspective.Replies: @Colin Wright
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_LevinReplies: @Pixo, @Pixo, @Wilkey, @Ben tillman, @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian, @Colin Wright
“ And BTW the millions and millions of illegal Latino immigrants are overwhelmingly Catholic.”
Not really, and definitely not “overwhelmingly.”
The share of Latino children who are baptized in a Catholic church is under a third. That is the simplest possible commitment to the faith, you aren’t even “culturally Catholic” if you don’t do that.
Evangelical church attendance now exceeds Catholic service attendance in some Latino areas.
They would have to do more than give up federal student loans, they get a much larger amount in research grants from NIH for example.
Famously Hillsdale College and Bob Jones University did this. Harvard can’t. Maybe Williams College and similar wealthy leftist liberal arts colleges without big research budgets.
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_LevinReplies: @Pixo, @Pixo, @Wilkey, @Ben tillman, @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian, @Colin Wright
“ In general, Unzites complain endlessly about Joos but nary a word about Catholics.”
Jews supported third world migration and feminism the entire 20th Century at about a 70% rate while Catholics dropped down sometime around 1940 or 1950 to the same 40% rate of non-Catholic northern whites.
While this is unfair to non-leftist Jews such as yourself, it is hardly without a factual and logical basis.
I do. The weaker state AA bans reduced unqualified black enrollment by about 75% at elite public colleges. And these weaker laws couldn’t be enforced in federal court.
Universities that resist will be at the butt end of federal injunctions and attorney fee awards.
This decision means whites and asians can sue for discrimination in federal court and win big.
A covert neutered AA like Berkeley and UT have now will persist at wealthier leftist colleges in lefty jurisdictions. Harvard is so rich and committed to anti-white hate they are OK with paying the huge cost for another few years of illegal anti-white policies. Most universities lack this funding and commitment.Replies: @Ralph L, @Inquiring Mind
This is what columnist Jennifer Rubin is essentially Tweeting. It is along the lines of, “The wall won’t do any good because people could cross it with ladders.”
In your case, you are expressing this sentiment ruefully as someone who is black-pilled. Ms. Rubin is expressing the same thoughts while doing her “I just sacked the quarterback” celebration dance.
That Unabomber guy’s take on Leftism was really smart. He could have accomplished much if he wasn’t a homicidal maniac.
Indeed.
"Unless the Asian % goes up (and the black %) goes down, they are going to be back in court."
Which could take years to get to the Supreme Court.
"This country has been catering to blacks for 3 generations now."
LOL, didn't Jewish lawyers like yourself have something to do with it? At least that is what the unz commetariat would claim.Replies: @SFG, @Curle
Did he say that he was a lawyer?
Lizzy Cheekbones Borden Warren Brings Up Russell Crowe’s New Exorcism Movie The Pope’s Exorcist.
How about West Virginia pioneer Steve Sailer do a movie review on that?
I believe Lizzy Borden Warren, a descendant of a Tennessee Militia warrior chieftain, is demonically possessed by the ungodly furies of total Baby Boomer madness. Elizabeth Warren is stone cold evil and the awful ladies that ran her 2020 presidential campaign off the cliff were perhaps not evil, nor demonically possessed, but certainly they were brain-dead distaff boobs who had no historical, cultural, political nor ancestral understanding of the Historic American Nation. Distaff dummies in the Warren coven really screwed it up!
Attention females: I love all of you that are lovable and my favorite politician is Frenchwoman Marine Le Pen, but I must tell the truth about Cheekbones Warren and her bonehead sisters.
I will vote for a WOMAN who represents my worldview and I wish I were a Frenchy so I could vote for beautiful and smart Frenchwoman MARINE LE PEN! Dammit!
Now watch me try to exorcise the demons from Elizabeth Warren:
JEZEBEL! Spirit of destruction! Spirit of grief! I bound you with chains of iron!
Lessen Your Hold on Elizabeth Warren and come out of her now!
OUT
OUT
OUT JEZEBEL!
OUT in the name of Jesus!
OUT JEZEBEL!
Elizabeth Warren was intended by God to be a righteous woman!
Jezebel you have no right there, Elizabeth Warren’s husband is the head of the house! Hey, he opened Elizabeth Warren’s beer bottle for her, so he seems like a nice guy!
OUT JEZEBEL!
OUT!
OUT JEZEBEL!
OUT!
The Jezebel Spirit by Brian Eno and David Byrne:
Indian ancestry at her level is ubiquitous in former Cherokee territory. It is nevertheless declasse’ to harp on about it at her minuscule levels especially given that some of that dna may have come from ‘captured’ females (both sides did it).
The court has 6 Catholics though, in a country that is 20% Catholic. I don't understand why the current American right has lost all interest in papists. Anti-Catholicism used to be almost as popular as anti-Semitism. The Jews need to talk to the Roman Church's PR agent.Replies: @The Germ Theory of Disease, @Anon, @Bardon Kaldian, @res, @Mike Conrad, @Wilkey
I think their PR agent was a dead guy surnamed Scalia. Conservatives gained faith in Catholics after Reagan put Scalia on the bench. And our faith in WASPs declined dramatically after David Souter turned into such catastrophic disappointment. Well, I don’t think he was any shock to George H. W. Bush, but he was to the rest of us.
I don’t think most conservatives care much who is on the bench, what they look like, who they worship, or whether or not they have a penis. What we care about is results. If you could guarantee us that every black jurist would turn out like Clarence Thomas we’d be fine with 9 black justices. But that ain’t the case, of course.
As for why Kagan doesn’t have a problem with too many Jews on the court, or at Harvard, or in the Biden Administration – that’s for her to explain. She’s the one who is obsessed with “equity,” and willing to discriminate against millions of (non-Jewish) whites in order to achieve it.
I guess Sen. Warren is now on the warpath…
Or they could just follow Ron (and company)’s proposal.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/opinions/yang-harvard-tuition/index.html
Here is the election outcome (unsurprisingly they failed).
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2016/05/harvard-overseers-election-results
Interesting to notice one of the “preferred” candidates.
Even more interesting to note that only three appear on both lists–including the black and the Hispanic. I wonder what the deal was with the others.
Ron’s article about the outcome. Are the actual vote counts for each candidate available anywhere?
https://www.unz.com/announcement/win-some-lose-some/
BTW, here is the eventual Harvard response. (quote from Ron at the end of linked article)
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2016/09/harvard-overseer-election-reforms
Does she hide her light under a bushel?
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_LevinReplies: @Pixo, @Pixo, @Wilkey, @Ben tillman, @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian, @Colin Wright
Now you’re just being silly. Catholic overrepresentation is mostly just confined to the Supreme Court. In the US Senate, for example, there are 85 Christians. 27 of those are Catholic – roughly in line with the US population.
Jewish overrepresentation, meanwhile, is amazingly commonplace in positions of power. 9 Jews in the US Senate (including the majority leader), 5 in Biden’s cabinet (including Chief of Staff (current and former) and 4 of the 5 most powerful departments (Justice, State, Treasury & Homeland Security).
Right – because people here never complain about too much immigration. It’s practically never even mentioned.
The problem with Latinos isn’t that they’re Catholic. White Catholics are pretty much indistinguishable from White Protestants on most metrics. The problem is that they’re a huge racial minority that Democrats will use to drive a wedge between themselves and the rest of us. Differences in educational attainment will always tend to keep Latinos on the other side of the political divide.
Off topic but worth noting:
Fake woman Dylan Mulvancy has just publicly attacked Bud Light for not “protecting” her/him from “”hate” and alleged “attacks” (online we assume) by unhappy members of the public.
He/she is now “afraid” and “scared”, etc.
This is the thanks AmBev gets for losing a billion dollars in market value and millions in sales by giving him/her a Bud Light can with his/her face on it to publicize.
Good deeds never go unpunished.
Sorry Dylan, your 15 minutes of fame are up…
I think Warren has less such ancestry than the average resident of Oklahoma. If I recall her ancestry test implied probably in the 1/512 to 1/1024 level. My take, if you’re not at least an octoroon, you’ve got no business claiming. Even an octoroon or quadroon is probably just LARPing.
KJB writes “The race-based gaps that first developed centuries ago…”I thought it was about 40,000 year ago. If she means 400 centuries ago, that would make sense.
Affirmative Action and then no student loan deadbeat “forgiveness” by El Supremo.
The Supremes are on a roll…
We can thank D. Trump for his 2016 victory for these outcomes.
This isn’t a difference. It was the exact same thing with homosexual “marriage”–LOL–as well. It was something like 0-25 at the ballot box.
I’ll grant that now it would pass in a lot of places. Most people don’t like to be “mean” and “take away” “rights”. (There is vast confusion about what marriage is and who gets to bestow such a “right”.) And People have been relentless propagandized by Hollyweird. And young people …. honestly their minds are mush. They don’t have the slightest clue about civilization and what makes it tick. (They haven’t lived in a society–a nation, a polity–interested in preserving civilization.) No surprise marriage itself is tanking.
Exactly. That was the problem in the original Bakke case. UC Davis medical school just ranked everyone and allocated X number of slots to the highest scores, and then Y number of slots to the highest blacks (vastly lower ranked of course). So Bakke could easily say his spot was taken away and given to a black. Powell’s decision was to tell them to just hide it better by using the Harvard ‘holistic’ method. The whole AA jurisprudence since then has just been an absolute embarassment for the intellectual and moral credibility of the court for 50 years.
The other huge problem w. AA that you alluded to is that it started out as charity. But then it immediately became like an admission of white guilt and an entitlement program. So it made blacks even more resentful and entitled. Even if they evade by cheating this is still a huge moral and legal victory against the grievance culture.
“gaps that developed centuries ago . . .”
Did you sleep through the history lesson about when blacks had the same achievement levels as the Romans, Chinese, etc? It was a long time ago, in a galaxy far far away . . . in a place called Wakanda. Look into it, bigot.
Not sure if that’s aimed at me or Jack. I was making simply making a joke about Trump finally finding a Protestant … and he actually had the same old-same old Catholic background. (Apparently was at the same Catholic prep school a few years behind Kavanaugh.)
Jack is right about the numbers. The court briefly was 6 Catholics-3 Jews-0 Protestants.
— Then the Catholics dipped briefly to 5, and we finally got a Protestant again, with Catholic-raised-Anglican Gorsuch replacing Scalia.
— But then the too-arrogant-to-leave-during-Obama notorious RBG cost the Democrats/Jews a seat and the boring Catholic read-the-Constitution Catholics were back up to 6.
— Then Breyer responsibly from the perspective of party politics, retired and the hapless Biden had to appoint Ketanji to get black girl magic. And now the Jews are down to 1.
So it’s 6-2-1 in the world’s most populous Protestant nation.
The progressive side’s “jurisprudence” is just going to get a lot dumber and dumber if the Democrats can’t slap smart Jewish guys on there to make shit up. These “women of color” … LOL.
The other joke is the two blacks, to only one Hispanic in an America that is rapidly Hispanicizing. (Even with their birthrates down, Hispanic gals are popping out 1/4 of American babies … and the border is wide open.) But apparently America needs black “wisdom”.
At least all these folks now are solidly younger than Biden–and way more sentient–so hopefully we’ll be spared another Ketanji level genius at least for a few years.
RFK Jr. is right about vaccines and that’s about it. Otherwise he’s a lefty scumbag who paid himself $1 million a year from his Citizens Energy Corp which got its oil from Hugo Chavez’s Venezuela while claiming to help the poor in New England.
That said, he is giving the Ds fits.
https://nypost.com/2013/03/10/rfk-son-is-oil-broken-up-over-chavez-death/
Jews supported third world migration and feminism the entire 20th Century at about a 70% rate while Catholics dropped down sometime around 1940 or 1950 to the same 40% rate of non-Catholic northern whites.
While this is unfair to non-leftist Jews such as yourself, it is hardly without a factual and logical basis.Replies: @Bill Jones
Well you might want to recommend that the whiners see what Ron Unz says about jews.
If I was a younger man, I'd suggest starting a betting pool on how long this decision will last. But since the Supremes--the black robed guys, not Mary, Flo and Diana--are on average younger than me, I can't see much point.
But politics is downstream of demographics. And under the minoritarian raj, American politics and demographics just gets ever more embarrassing and depressing.
I'd like to think that down the road there will be some sort of broad white-Hispanic-Asian middle-working class coalition that will toss off this Jewish minoritarian ideology and my kids' America will slump toward Brazil in a more Latin style--color continuum inequality. And critically smarck down the "must have immigration!" bleaters and avoid downloading Steve's "World's Most Important Graph". But unfortunately this toxic minoritarian garbage is deeply ingrained now and is the iron bowl for so many.
I don't know if the Chinese will be able to get their act together to tackle the eugenic fertility nut. The Chicoms crew of late looks like a gaggle of pathetic incompetent grifters ... but they got scale and ergo some time. If they ever do get it together on the eugenic fertility question, a flick of their wrist--or the Wuhan Institute of Virology--will be sufficient to dispatch the sad shit sack that minoritarianism has made of the US, politically and demographically.Replies: @kaganovitch, @jorge videla, @Pixo, @Erik L, @Hypnotoad666
You can’t discount the moral aspects of the law. The legality of AA was like a societal concession that white people are bad and their rights don’t count. This only made blacks feel more entitled and resentful (repeating my comment to Jack D here). The elites’ self-conception as the virtuous people is fatally wounded when they have to sneak around violating the law (as will be obvious to everyone).
It’s also likely they will destroy their (intellectual) elite status by dumping tests and admitting practically by random, like the UC system has done. If Harvard is eventually recognized as a woke font of mediocrity, it loses it’s power. I’d call that a win.
Finally, this opens the door to some schools that didn’t really want to do AA but felt they had to. Now they have an excuse to go full merit. If some slightly less prestigious school out there goes against the grain by going full test scores they will blow past the Ivies in IQ. It may take the Ivies down a notch to try to explain why “their students may be smarter but ours are better because . . . uh, . . . ”
And what schools are these?
Since the top schools will still take more than their share of higher IQ blacks by hook or by crook, if some lower tier schools do, they all have to do AA to get any non-jock blacks in the brochure and alumni magazine. With the paltry birth rate of high income/IQ blacks, the competition will only get more fierce in years to come.
blockquote>’An extremist Supreme Court has once again reversed decades of settled law, rolled back the march toward racial justice, and narrowed educational opportunity for all. I won’t stop fighting for young people with big dreams who deserve an equal chance to pursue their future.’
Notice that there are at least three clear-cut, indisputable lies in that paragraph. Not bad for just two sentences.
…and Elizabeth Warren isn’t exactly my cup of tear, but she’s not as bad as some. It’s telling that ordinary political discourse in this country has become such a stream of patent falsehoods — not just distortions, or only part of the truth, or dubious assertions, but flat-out, demonstrable falsehoods.
We are doomed.
AMEN!
opps, did I shout?
“I won’t stop fighting for young people with big dreams who deserve an equal chance to pursue their future.”
“I remember well that once I myself was a young girl with big dreams and had to fake Indian descent for to pursue my future, otherwise I would never had an equal chance, equal to others who were more gifted or had better grades.”
She is simply empathetic w.r.t young people in similar conditions.
Good comment overall.
The original civil rights and AA stuff had some political traction in America from Western Christian “we’re all in this together”ism. Some sense of shame and desire to be fair. MLK played directly to this in his speechifying. The original “lookout and be sure you’re giving talented black guys a shot” AA was in this vein. We haven’t been fair to these folks and need to bring ’em on board if we’re all doing this together. And sort of like raising a kid, you’re helping them along and don’t hold them to the same standards. AA was JV. Coach ’em up to varsity. Not a permanent–entitlement–parking spot.
My quibble here is that ethnic political allocation is just per-spec once you are multi-ethnic in a democracy. In old imperial orders–that you seem to like–the general program is “pay your taxes, don’t cause trouble and STFU”. Maybe the emperor doles out some special privileges. “Hey the Jews get to middle man or tax farm and your peasants don’t to organize and chase ’em outta town”.
But as soon as you have any sort of democracy in a multi-ethic polity you’re going to have ethnic squabbling. That’s isn’t some sort of failure of the society … it’s baked in. People going about politics. (I could hunt around for the appropriate Lee Kwan Yew quote, but the principle is obvious.) In India were there isn’t just one endogamous tribe, but hundreds, the strife over “reservations”–i.e. AA–is ubiquitous. They’ve had riots with beats and killings and continual political jockeying to get your group classified as reservation worthy.
If you want to have “nice things”, like self-government, limited government, freedom, ho-hum meritocracy — you want to have a one-people nation.
~~
As I’ve said a few times, if we could stop the immigrant loons, and end immigrant now, the American situation is probably still tractable. Absent future immigration Asians and Hispanics will merge into the American core.
I could foresee a future America with
— a mixed white, Asian, Jewish elite and professional class
— a mixed white, Asian middle class, plus some blacks
— a mixed Hispanic, white working class, plus most blacks
— a mostly black and downscale Hispanic lumpen proletariat, with of course a lot of black criminals
It’s the outlier endogamous groups that are a particular pain in the ass. Blacks–because of race differences. Jews and now Muslims–genius!–because of religion.
Fortunately, secular Jews are dying out, though still rabidly inflicting their crazy upon us. The Orthodox are growing rapidly, but more based and not an immediate issue. (Longer term–should really be in their own nation–Israel. May eventually have those issues with the Amish as well.)
But … all of above blue sky only works we stop importing people. Import people–especially people that can form their own endogamous tribe–import trouble. We could end up with tribes of Chinese and Hindus in addition to the disaster of having religiously separate Muslims.
And then if we keep importing blacks …
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_LevinReplies: @Pixo, @Pixo, @Wilkey, @Ben tillman, @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian, @Colin Wright
There has been plenty of complaining about the lack of Protestants on the Court over the last 20 years.
Nice to see a mainstream Zionist organization supporting the end of AA.
Statement of Brooke Goldstein of the Lawfare Project
“The Supreme Court ruled that the affirmative action programs at Harvard and the University of North Carolina do not pass the strict scrutiny test and therefore violate the the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
In other words, the Court found that neither university showed that their consideration of race in admissions decisions was narrowly tailored to achieve a compelling state interest — here, diversity in higher education. Instead, what these universities did was to set up race quotas that negatively targeted the Asian community, another minority group. Furthermore, neither university showed that their affirmative action programs measurably achieved any of their purported goals, such as improving education.
Of course, this ruling will also have implications for the Jewish community — a minority group that has largely suffered, rather than benefited, from affirmative action policies.”
Jack D and The Anti-Gnostic have claimed to be lawyers. Try paying closer attention.
They reversed decades of settled lawlessness. Someday the rule of law might become the norm again in America — but don’t hold your breath.
https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/27/opinions/yang-harvard-tuition/index.htmlHere is the election outcome (unsurprisingly they failed).
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2016/05/harvard-overseers-election-results
Interesting to notice one of the "preferred" candidates.Even more interesting to note that only three appear on both lists--including the black and the Hispanic. I wonder what the deal was with the others.
Ron's article about the outcome. Are the actual vote counts for each candidate available anywhere?
https://www.unz.com/announcement/win-some-lose-some/
BTW, here is the eventual Harvard response. (quote from Ron at the end of linked article)
https://www.harvardmagazine.com/2016/09/harvard-overseer-election-reformsReplies: @Ralph L
Ketanji Brown Jackson ’92 magna cum laude
Does she hide her light under a bushel?
Jackson and Sotomayor are retards. Kagan isn’t retarded, just evil.
Finally, this opens the door to some schools that didn’t really want to do AA but felt they had to.
And what schools are these?
Since the top schools will still take more than their share of higher IQ blacks by hook or by crook, if some lower tier schools do, they all have to do AA to get any non-jock blacks in the brochure and alumni magazine. With the paltry birth rate of high income/IQ blacks, the competition will only get more fierce in years to come.
Thanks. My thoughts exactly. In the new multicultural America, selective discrimination is harder to justify. AA, though always irrational, was a well intentioned band aid that was just (barely) workable in historic America before the non-White migration became overwhelming. Whites are now just another ethnic group (perhaps two ethnic groups: ‘Patriots’ and ‘Sh$tlibs’). Ending AA keeps the empire limping along for at least several more decades until divide and rule (*cough* – I mean ‘Diversity’) makes a unified polity impossible.
I do love the Elizabeth Warrens of the world. People like her just highlight the irrational power grab behind leftists’ rules (eg being a woman is a feeling, not biology). No reason for Patriots to step in the middle of the circular firing squad.
…..That’s nothing , the human /chimp gap started 5 million years ago …….
Note that disparate impact is never brought out to analyze gun regulation. Enforcement, perhaps, but that just makes it more suspicious, not less.
“Disparate impact” is less a real thing than a tactic to be pulled out once in a while when handy. Like free speech with the Free Speech Movement.
https://c.o0bg.com/rf/image_960w/Boston/2011-2020/2016/01/14/BostonGlobe.com/Metro/Images/da455b60-4ce3-4e99-8eae-c830c7e511d2.jpg
Rockford Files aficionado and occasional commenter on Unz ReviewReplies: @Richard B, @Corpse Tooth
What’s in the box? I’m fairly certain it’s a ventriloquist doll.
I kinda like the decision, but have to ask: Outside of state universities and military academies how is this the Court’s business?
I find myself in the curious position of defending affirmative action, which I don’t like, because the court overreached.
>by discussing a blatantly illegal and unconstitutional federally imposed policy
Hmmm.
Jack is right about the numbers. The court briefly was 6 Catholics-3 Jews-0 Protestants.
-- Then the Catholics dipped briefly to 5, and we finally got a Protestant again, with Catholic-raised-Anglican Gorsuch replacing Scalia.
-- But then the too-arrogant-to-leave-during-Obama notorious RBG cost the Democrats/Jews a seat and the boring Catholic read-the-Constitution Catholics were back up to 6.
-- Then Breyer responsibly from the perspective of party politics, retired and the hapless Biden had to appoint Ketanji to get black girl magic. And now the Jews are down to 1.
So it's 6-2-1 in the world's most populous Protestant nation.
The progressive side's "jurisprudence" is just going to get a lot dumber and dumber if the Democrats can't slap smart Jewish guys on there to make shit up. These "women of color" ... LOL.
The other joke is the two blacks, to only one Hispanic in an America that is rapidly Hispanicizing. (Even with their birthrates down, Hispanic gals are popping out 1/4 of American babies ... and the border is wide open.) But apparently America needs black "wisdom".
At least all these folks now are solidly younger than Biden--and way more sentient--so hopefully we'll be spared another Ketanji level genius at least for a few years.Replies: @Johnnie Skywalker
Frankly the lack of Protestants should be enough to invalidate it all; the Anglo-Saxon’s laws cannot be decided by the Jew or Catholic.
Even England is no longer Angl0-Saxon, let alone the US.
I find myself in the curious position of defending affirmative action, which I don't like, because the court overreached.Replies: @Johnnie Skywalker, @MEH 0910, @J.Ross
Every school that takes Uncle Sam’s money. Be on the take or truly private like Hillsdale.
The irony is that it’s bad for black students. They’re shoved into environments that they are not prepared or equipped for and overwhelmingly either (a) fail outright, or (b) start telling a lie everyone agrees to accept.
It’s a bad, humiliating joke. How does it benefit anyone? The semi-literate who might have mastered basic bookkeeping or welding is now taught that he’s some combination of failure and fraud.
It’s all but intentionally evil. It’s designed to literally hurt most of those who come into contact with it.
I mean, I don’t care. Post-Summer of George, fuck ’em. But what’s the point?
and...
there should be no universities and colleges in the first place and no grades...just tests, objective tests.Replies: @Mike Conrad
This is sadly true. Even the “smart” justices can’t hold a candle to the smart ones from a couple of generations ago, and especially to those of a century ago. But then how could it be otherwise now?
https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/tennessee-teen-pepper-sprays-teacher-after-he-takes-her-phone/
I find myself in the curious position of defending affirmative action, which I don't like, because the court overreached.Replies: @Johnnie Skywalker, @MEH 0910, @J.Ross
That’s more like it. Bring the Pope into the argument! Why should Soros get all the credit?
Even England is no longer Angl0-Saxon, let alone the US.
“Leftists seem to use “appeal to authority” a lot.
LOL, as a Jew, that is in your DNA. Or so I’ve been told by the unz commentariat. You really need to be more introspective.
Bless her heart, as Southern women say.
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_LevinReplies: @Pixo, @Pixo, @Wilkey, @Ben tillman, @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian, @Colin Wright
Outstanding, Councilor! Truly heroic misdirection. This line of argumentation should enter the “Let’s You and Him Fight” hall of fame.
Do let us know when they stop.
Doesn’t just about any 23-and-me test show a few tenths of a percent of African ancestry? Even for blonde-haired blue-eyed Finns from Karelia? Which merely shows the limits of genetic testing technology. Warren’s putative American Indian ancestry is in the noise.
Alito is an excellent justice. The equal of any alive in my lifetime.
I expected Kavanagh to be pissed after what the left did to him, but the first thing he did on SCOTUS was to proudly announce that he'd hired all female clerks.
That said, he is giving the Ds fits.
https://nypost.com/2013/03/10/rfk-son-is-oil-broken-up-over-chavez-death/Replies: @Rohirrimborn, @Curle
You’re confusing Robert with his older brother Joseph. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_P._Kennedy_II
Regarding Indian ancestry, Warren is hoist by her own petard in multiple ways: first, as noted by others, her percentage of Indian ancestry is tiny, far less than one would expect from a typical Oklahoman; but second, the tribe she claimed ancestry from – the Cherokee – don’t care about blood quantum anyway.
To be a Cherokee, or a member of one of the other Five Civilized Tribes, you must show descent from someone on the Dawes Rolls, which were the official lists of all recognized members of the five tribes of Indian Territory (now the state of Oklahoma) – Cherokee, Creek, Choctaw, Chickasaw, and Seminole. You can’t just say, “my great-great grandfather was a Cherokee, honest!”; you have to identify someone on the Dawes Rolls, then provide detailed documentation (birth certificates, marriage licenses, etc.) showing how you are descended. If there’s someone in your family tree that’s not on the Dawes Rolls but has already done that paperwork and been recognized as a tribal citizen, then you just have to go back to that person, but the documentation still must be solid.
So Warren is hosed both ways, but is such a despicable and fraudulent person she’ll never admit she used this made-up-from-whole-cloth fairy tale to gain a faculty position at Harvard. But that’s what happened – just another fraudulent race-hustler.
You're think the Republicans would easily find high quality Protestants for the Supremes. There are lots of high quality Protestant people in America, more than any other group. But the Republicans Protestants have in recent decades been--with the notable exception of Rehnquist--really an embarrassing lot. At best sort of ho-hum--Stewart, Powell ... and mediocre Burger, O'Connor... to disasters--the politician Warren, the arrogant Stevens, the pathetic Souter, to the ridiculous Blackman.
Basically, the Democrats have needed Jews to competently do their when-you-really-think-about-it-the-constitution-means-the-opposite-of-what-it-says pretzel logic. (Now they are stuck having the likes of "the Wise Latina" or Ketanji do it and it's just way more open and embarrassing.) And likewise--but much more weirdly--the Republicans have needed Catholics--usually Jesuit educated--to competently argue for "hey-the-Constitution-really-means-what-it-says".
Trump finally found a seemingly competent conservative Protestant ... and turns out he's actually a Catholic.Replies: @Reg Cæsar, @James J. O'Meara, @Catdompanj, @Hibernian
AFAIK only Kavanaugh, and for him only at the high school level. Only Coney Barrett went to a Catholic law school, Notre Dame, not Jesuit, and only Thomas to a Catholic college, Holy Cross, not sure which order ran it.
I find myself in the curious position of defending affirmative action, which I don't like, because the court overreached.Replies: @Johnnie Skywalker, @MEH 0910, @J.Ross
>the supreme court overreached
>by discussing a blatantly illegal and unconstitutional federally imposed policy
Hmmm.
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_LevinReplies: @Pixo, @Pixo, @Wilkey, @Ben tillman, @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian, @Colin Wright
Not as overwhelmingly as in the past, that’s for sure.
The Anglo-Saxons were Catholic for a millenium.
I think the Protestants in charge of America have done quite enough damage domestically and abroad over the last century, thank you!
That is, unless you support those Protestant luminaries who drafted, voted for, passed, and gave judicial review to the 14th Amendment.
As I said before, this complete silence on this subject is contrary to American anti-immigrant tradition, which was more anti-Catholic than anti-Jewish to the point where Jews were on the nativist team and were involved in burning Catholic churches:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lewis_Charles_LevinReplies: @Pixo, @Pixo, @Wilkey, @Ben tillman, @Mr. Anon, @Hibernian, @Colin Wright
Yes — but Catholics lack any compulsion to undermine and subvert the tacit consensus that makes a civilized society possible.
I object to immigrants because they’re immigrants. That they’re Catholic is neither here nor there. And in any case, most of the ‘Catholics’ are purely nominal; those who take their religion seriously are mostly Protestant Evangelicals. And there are a lot of those: El Salvador, for example, is one-third Protestant.
Does that make it all better?
“It’s about being . . . blind to EMPIRICAL evidence about disparities, . . .”
“Empirical: Relying on or derived from observation or experiment.”
“Statistics: The mathematics of the collection, organization, and interpretation of numerical data, especially the analysis of population characteristics by inference from sampling.“
It appears our VP doesn’t know the difference.
That said, he is giving the Ds fits.
https://nypost.com/2013/03/10/rfk-son-is-oil-broken-up-over-chavez-death/Replies: @Rohirrimborn, @Curle
He’s also right about the CIA, FBI, speech monitoring/deplatforming/suppression, big tech monopolies and surveillance, big pharmaceutical, arms industry and he’s hostile to the neocons.
I'll grant that now it would pass in a lot of places. Most people don't like to be "mean" and "take away" "rights". (There is vast confusion about what marriage is and who gets to bestow such a "right".) And People have been relentless propagandized by Hollyweird. And young people .... honestly their minds are mush. They don't have the slightest clue about civilization and what makes it tick. (They haven't lived in a society--a nation, a polity--interested in preserving civilization.) No surprise marriage itself is tanking.Replies: @Curle
And don’t forget it had the added benefit for the Left of deinstitutionalizing a Christian cultural touchstone. The Christian opponents understood its consequence would be the humiliation of Christianity as a whole and the normalization of paganism.
Agree. He and Thomas are the only true conservatives.
I expected Kavanagh to be pissed after what the left did to him, but the first thing he did on SCOTUS was to proudly announce that he’d hired all female clerks.
You shouldn’t be allowed to vote
The common law developed in early-medieval Catholic England, and was first organized into a uniform system by Henry II, who–despite that little awkwardness with Thomas a Becket–was a Catholic. Catholic bishops like Herbert Walter and Stephen Langton wrote some of the earliest commentaries on the common law. Anglo-Saxon common law is a good deal more Catholic in origins than it is Protestant.
LOL, as a Jew, that is in your DNA. Or so I've been told by the unz commentariat. You really need to be more introspective.Replies: @Colin Wright
What a peculiar remark. As far as I can see, it bears no particular relationship to reality.
You seem much more fixated on the Hebrews than Jack himself.