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Klobuchar dropped out. She and Buttigieg (and Beto, remember him?) all endorsed Biden, who thanked them in a complicated anecdote involving how you used to tie an onion to your belt.

In virus news, the number of new cases appears to have dropped encouragingly in China, assuming you can trust Chinese statistics. The World Health Organization thinks so:

In the face of a previously unknown virus, China has rolled out perhaps the most ambitious, agile and aggressive disease containment effort in history. The strategy that underpinned this containment effort was initially a national approach that promoted universal temperature monitoring, masking, and hand washing.

…. China’s bold approach to contain the rapid spread of this new respiratory pathogen has changed the course of a rapidly escalating and deadly epidemic. A particularly compelling statistic is that on the first day of the advance team’s work there were 2478 newly confirmed cases of COVID-19 reported in China. Two weeks later, on the final day of this Mission, China reported 409 newly confirmed cases. This decline in COVID-19 cases across China is real.

But what kind of economic production are they getting in China these days?

Maybe going into the office is overblown? Are office workers working hard from home? Maybe the bright future where you can work from anywhere foretold during the Information Superhighway fad of 1993 is finally coming true?

Nobody seems to have much of a clue. The stock market didn’t notice the coronavirus until about 10 days ago, after which it dropped like a rock, until it went up 4.5% on Monday. This performance might raise questions about the Efficient Market Theory. It’s almost as if the stock market is made up of human beings who don’t actually have much of a clue about how best to deal with novel situations.

Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration? Back in April 2015 during the Baltimore Black Lives Matter riots, the Baltimore Orioles played a home game in an e mpty stadium. The silence made for a creepy experience for TV viewers, but that could be dealt with with the help of an applause track.

The World Health Organization has its priorities in order, such as, of course, policing language.

 
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  1. Spotted Toad argued if you did all the telecommuting, everyone would figure out how little work everyone is doing.

    I think the problem is business runs things in this country, so until it’s clear the coronavirus is going to cost companies money there won’t be a quarantine. Everyone started paying attention after the market crashed.

    • Replies: @Jimi
    Lots of work is going as in people typing, talking on phone and sitting in meetings.

    With telecommuting you'd figure out how little work you need to do to be productive.
    , @Lugash
    In my company there's a strong selection for extreme extroverts in management. I've been pushing to work from home but they've been resisting. I seriously think it's because they need someone to talk to all day.

    Also, if there's a racial prevalence in this virus there might be unexpected effects. There's a lot of small and medium sized businesses flying under the radar that are 100% Asian. I could see them folding in an outbreak, hopefully they aren't industry linchpins.
  2. This is the end for Bernie. My prediction is that Biden does better than Bernie, maybe not my much, but he does better. Even if Biden beats Bernie by 1% of the vote, the press will play it up. Cue the calls for unity, for the need to beat Trump above all else.

    Bernie, being a wimp, will go along. Bernie supporters will be pissed, but eventually hold their nose and vote for Biden, or stay home. Biden will lose and we get four more years of Trump.

    • Agree: Pop Warner
    • Replies: @Tiny Duck
    Actually Sanders does well with LAtinos and People of Color. HE will kick rearend in Califronia and Texas and New York the only states that matter becasue of their diversity. No matter who wins the democrats will win the general IF everybody is allowed to vote. The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55. Game over.


    Also, Why isnt the virus affecting Africa? Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?

    No wonder white girls are increasingly choosing to bear Children of Black Men.

    They only want the best!
    , @Travis
    I suspect you are correct. Biden will do better than expected today as the Democratic establishment is throwing all their weight behind Biden. Everything is now pointing to Biden winning the Democratic nomination. Warren stayed in the race because she takes votes away from Sanders, while all the others dropped out to support Biden.
    , @Hegar
    Indeed. *Bernie will eventually endorse Biden. And all those talking about "the moderates splitting the party" will go along, as beating Trump is all that matters. It would be this way no matter which candidate would dominate - everyone will eventually go along, no matter what they say. Leftists always lie, of course.

    They know that it doesn't matter which Democrat is in the White House, as long as it is any of them.

    Any Democrat means open borders, so that it's game over for Republicans and Whites. It could be *Bloomberg, *Sanders, Biden, Warren, anyone.

    And any Democrat will appoint leftist judges to the Supreme Court and other courts.
    , @Pericles
    I too think Trump will win, but if worst comes to worst, it would be an interesting politburo-style experience to have an obviously senile leader of 'the free world' for a couple of years. (Just a couple? I assume he would croak prematurely under the strain.)

    Don't worry, the Deep State would of course keep operations running as smoothly as under Obama or as RBG on the Supreme Court.
    , @J.Ross
    This has been my expectation as well.
    ------
    A Nepali (!) anon on 4chan posted a scientific paper which says that there is no curing or recovery from The Yellow Peril, it hides from the immune system among neurons: it stays in your spine forever like chicken pox.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.25728
    , @Servant of Gla'aki
    It all comes down to Texas. I have a hard time believing that endorsements from Buttkrieg, the Klobe, and Beta O'Rourke are going to swing Texas to Cotton-Brained Joe, but the mass media sure seems to think it's happening. Maybe they can conjure it up out of sheer, mega-phonic will? Kinda doubt it though. Pretty sure Biden mania is Fake News (there just aren't enough Black people in Texas, especially in light of Bernie's edge among Hispanics).
    , @Lot
    Good prediction.

    OT: Fat Albert on the loose in Indy!

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1234900238634143744
  3. Regarding stock market behavior, the efficient market hypothesis as advanced by academic economists is bunk; if it weren’t, CANSLIM on individual stocks couldn’t be so effective. But index-level price action can be said to exhibit a kind of efficiency. Do you recall those long ago twilight conversations among neighbors on the front lawn and the little kids chasing each other, running around and then returning to hide behind their mother before venturing away again. Index price action is like that: price runs back and forth adventurously exploring a level and then recoiling to find a refuge at an earlier level. Then it does the same with other levels. This looks chaotic but to the extent that precedence among the levels can be revealed there is orderly price action. Efficiency theoretically exists, but is hard to come by.

    • Replies: @allahu akbar
    "Efficiency theoretically exists, but is hard to come by."


    You don't have a clue what you're talking about.
    , @Neoconned
    The market isn't efficient -- its corrupt and prone to cronyist shennanigans and nonsense....which is why wealth inequality continues to get worse....on top of the fact "they" aka the top 1% are doing and have done for the past 25 odd years to our industrial base what they did to Russia in the 1990s until Putin slowed but probably didn't totally stop the 1% looting of Russia's corporate and industrial base.

    The Wall Street and finance type parasites do this here via Carl Icahn type corporate raids that destroy otherwise healthy companies, junk bond dumps like what Miliken or whatever his name is did back in the day and now the LBO takeovers of healthy companies like the grocery chain Winn Dixie that I used to work for -- that's now saddled with loads of unhealthy, unpayable debt and some private equity parasite is out there milking the company like a vampire as they slowly bleed them into nothingness. In my old home area before I moved they've shuttered 2 of the old Winn Dixie stores, leaving 3 left. There used to be I think like 12 in the 1990s....

    I dunno....anyway Bernie as I've said before CAN'T win. Wall Street and the various zillionaires simply put will not allow it. Theres just too much market and labor market chaos that comes with a Bernie win. People go to college for free, student loan debt is written off instead of paid back to the creditor parasites who benefit from the deflationary negative rate environment we're in now where cash becomes valued more and thus debt becomes valued more....

    Imagine if the poor could go to college....that means they actually get to chase their dream careers again -- whether that's trade school or basketweaving 101. Screw flipping hamburgers at Wendy's or stocking shelves at Walmart. Who needs that noise?

    That means wages and benefits go up because of an artificial shortage of labor....and Wall Street & corporate America simply put cannot have that.

    Even if Bernie slogs it out to the convention -- there will be backdoor super delegate shennanigans that will make sure Biden has the nomination -- and then he will lose to Trump. Probably in a landslide.
  4. DON’T – attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.

    So, do we have to retire “Chinaman’s Lung”?

    • LOL: Rob
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    As an American, I don't have a Chinaman's chance of getting Corona ....

    .


    ...except in 12 -oz bottles.
    , @Buck Ransom
    I think of it as the Kung Flu.
    , @El Dato
    The fear of word-triggered pogroms is palpable.

    Viruskristallnacht? WHO knows!
    , @Hegar
    How about the Yellow Virus?
    , @Abe


    DON’T – attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire “Chinaman’s Lung”?

     

    That clamorous cauldron of clicking cacophony you are hearing right about now is ten thousand tiger cubs pounding out their 2028 college admissions essays, each complete with their own lachrymose retelling of how Haven Snubnose or Becky Goodhair cruelly asked if grandma cooks them batwing soup in the garage.
  5. @SFG
    Spotted Toad argued if you did all the telecommuting, everyone would figure out how little work everyone is doing.

    I think the problem is business runs things in this country, so until it's clear the coronavirus is going to cost companies money there won't be a quarantine. Everyone started paying attention after the market crashed.

    Lots of work is going as in people typing, talking on phone and sitting in meetings.

    With telecommuting you’d figure out how little work you need to do to be productive.

    • Replies: @Intelligent Dasein
    Most of what I do in the office every day could easily be done from home, but the agency I work for has very draconian notions of security and will not allow me to access the VPN.

    Furthermore, a lot of the "work" people do these days is either unnecessary or counterproductive and does nothing to help the big picture or to make anybody happy. People do it for the paycheck, and the paycheck is only a result of the distorted, pseudo-economic conditions of globalism. It will all be given up with a shrug as those conditions change.
    , @indocon
    There is a lot of work, but how much of that is to use an overused term, "value add", my general rule of thumb is <20%. If somehow you mandated that people need to clear 80% of their daily calendars, I bet end of the day the business that they are employed by would still function.
    , @Kratoklastes

    With telecommuting you’d figure out how little work you need to do to be productive.
     
    It's also something that requires relatively high levels of employer trust (hopefully matched to high levels of employee honesty).

    Otherwise you get the "Bob" problem ('talented' programmer outsources his work to Chinkieland, and spends his days on Reddit and ICanHasCheezburger... the latter is so 2013).

    To be fair, "Bob" was
    ⓐ supposedly meat-present in the office; and
    ⓑ almost-certainly a fictional composite (just like Jesus). There are way too many details awry... e.g., "Bob" doing stupid shit that nobody would do IRL, like Fedexing an RSA keyfob to China instead of setting up a proxy. Even Michael Pascoe wasn't fooled (and he's a fuckwit), whereas CNN, the Guardian, El Reg, and a host of other fucktards swallowed the entire story and breathlessly regurgitated it like good little stenographers.

  6. The stock market is not backed by anything real such as increasing real profits or dividends as back in the day. It is a Ponzi scheme backed by the FED. However, if that’s the way to make money right now, or at least not lose it continuously via inflation and the artificially-low interest rates, why not?

    You’ve got to remember that it’s just a game of psychology. When it started going up yesterday, people who were hoping and ready for this rise figured they’d better get in before it makes a full “correction” back up. Then the next people at noon time. Then lots more later in the day. It’s just gambling but with slightly better odds than the one-armed bandits*.

    In China, people are doing REAL WORK, making stuff. Not all of that is as automated as it will be some day, so, no, the Chinamen better keep showing up if we want to find cheap sneakers made with 1-year glue on the shelves at Target.

    As for those hilarious WHO tweets, that’s probably just the AA guy writing, who WHO had to find something constructive to do and likely doesn’t know squat-all about diseases or microbiology. Remember, Steve, it’s all WHO, WHOM these days.

    .

    * Which, BTW, don’t even spit out change noisily anymore, just a slip of paper. That takes the last fun right out of it – may as well go to the gas station and scratch out some pieces of paper… FOR THE CHILDREN, of course …

    • Replies: @ChrisZ

    As for those hilarious WHO tweets, that’s probably just the AA guy writing, who WHO had to find something constructive to do
     
    Achmed, thank goodness somebody else noticed, and not just me.

    Was there ever anything calculated to inspire LESS public confidence than when the World “Health” Organization trotted our some third-worlder as its front man? People of all races were united in looking at that guy and thinking: “We are gonna die!”

    Also: WHO/Whom is very funny. Terrific meme potential.
    , @Cloudswrest

    ... find cheap sneakers made with 1-year glue on the shelves at Target.
     
    I nearly spit out my coffee at this. I've had so many comfy "Coleman" sandals from Big 5 simply fall apart from glue failure in just one season of use. They were cheep though. You get what you pay for.
    , @ScarletNumber

    [Slot machines], BTW, don’t even spit out change noisily anymore, just a slip of paper.
     
    Even worse, they don't even have handles anymore. You just push a button.
  7. Question: Will the epidemic reduce voting, and who gains if absentee voting is a bigger factor, in California?

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    It is so perfect that thousands and thousands of early voters voted for Steyer, Butt-man, and Klobo believing their campaigns would continue through Super Tuesday.

    The Dems love to brag about how they don't disenfranchise people--like those meany Republicans.

    You can't make up this stuff!
  8. @Anon

    DON'T - attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire "Chinaman's Lung"?

    As an American, I don’t have a Chinaman’s chance of getting Corona ….

    .

    …except in 12 -oz bottles.

    • Replies: @ben tillman
    It is also sold in 7-oz. bottles. And in cans.
    , @eastkekiisawhiteguy
    "BRITISHBRAINSIZE1325ccsnicker"
    But you wont stand a chinamans chance if you get aids bobo plague and dye from it, a chinaman not so much he he.do you wonder why no news of chinese dying from aids during the crisis you know now its the EDAR gene newman
  9. ”But what kind of economic production are they getting in China these days?”.

    Manufacturing. Anybody remember that industry?

    This is why a lot of the focus has been on Apple and other places with major supply chains rooted in China. Nobody cares about the office workers.

    On an anecdotal note, I have a friend’s wedding coming up where the flower girls’ dresses were ordered online (obviously manufactured/sewn) in China and there’s about a month delay on shipping, so far, do to this situation. It gets too much longer and they’ll just cancel the order and buy something domestic. Now multiple that transaction by a million (probably more like a billion) and you can see the potential something like this has to ripple out to the world economy.

    Fortunately, it seems like just the one province was shut down and the worst is over. Also, there are claims of China using slave labor from their Muslim population, but that’s probably another story altogether.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    I order little things now and then from China on ebay - the differences in price are enormous. For example, miniature car lamps (the little bulbs that light up your license plate or side markers) are 10 for $1 from China or 2 for $5.99 at your local auto parts store - the ones at the auto parts store are from China too. The one downside of ordering from China is that it can take months for the stuff to arrive so if you need that bulb tomorrow, fuggedaboutit. (Instead, order spares of all the bulbs on your car now, before you need them. You'll spend less on a complete set of multiple spares than you will at the auto parts store the first time you urgently need 1 bulb. There's a list of all the bulbs in the back of your owners manual. Keep the spares in your glove box and you'll know where to find them when you need them.). Anyway, I've noticed that since this whole coronavirus thing, the stuff I order on ebay arrives FASTER than usual. I don't know the explanation - empty space for air cargo vs. container ship?
  10. Steve, as you know, the our world is collectively unable to see the things that are most obvious. In the case of Coronavirus, we cannot seem to see the overwhelming evidence before our eyes that viral respiratory infection outbreaks and death are tied to the dryness of the air.

    Wuhan, China was cold and dry in January through mid February. Then in became warmer and very humid throughout Hubei province and things got much, much better.

    You can track what conditions were in Wuhan day by day. Or any city.

    https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/cn/wuhan/ZHHH/date/2020-2-16

    The correlation between humidity and viral respiratory infection severity and mortality was clearly shown and explained last year by a team at Yale University Medical School:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31085641

    That study showed humidity is sharply protective AFTER viral infection!

    Now watch me tell the future:
    The next evidence will be from France and the Seattle, WA area. There are outbreaks in both areas, and yet humid air has now arrived. Both areas should see a dramatic reduction in new cases and deaths. Tokyo conditions will improve for the same reason.

    I have foretold the future! I have magic! Or else this is another, dramatic instance of humanity failing to see the obvious.

    Even in the case of a scientific solution universally available to everyone to stop a viral epidemic dead in its tracks (all you need is a pot of boiling water to humidify your home) humanity cannot see the blindingly obvious. People will not see the very thing that will save their lives from viral pandemic! Do share this, Steve, if you would please. Check my work yourself, if you would like. Milan, Italy had not a drop of rain during the entire month of February if chart is correct:
    https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/it/peschiera-borromeo/LIML/date/2020-2

    • Thanks: vhrm
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    Have you ever been to Singapore? What a wonderful low humidity, cool environment there.

    Wuhan temps now are 13-15deg C or so. It's not summer. The Chinese are acting like the hive of bug people that /pol/ refers to them as, to their credit. That is what has stopped the virus in China.

    As for comment#15, take a look at the graphs here and click on the logarithmic tab.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    The reason why logarithmic scales are nice is that exponentials look like straight lines enabling you to extrapolate easily. There is no abatement internationally, and in less than 2 weeks there will be more cases internationally than China has ever had. Enough of these countries will have inability to contain. Some muslims will see spreading as a holy duty. Most countries will be slow on the ball to stop spread on countries pre-emptively let alone spread via N third party countries. Good luck stopping this, it's a chain reaction.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1234921173236035585

    And the updated case fatality rate is 3.4%. It's kind of a big deal.

    On the plus side is the potential to institute mandatory Korean-style 15min drive thru testing but at customs entry points at airports. Still, I suspect the genie is out of the bottle in a lot of ways already.
  11. I can’t believe the Dems would nominate an obvious loser like Biden. Of course, Bernie may be a big loser too, but at least it would make the race dramatic. And I like the idea of liberal billionaires being afraid of a commie in office.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    "And I like the idea of liberal billionaires being afraid of a commie in office."

    Liberal billionaires are rapacious capitalists and cultural Marxists. The best of both worlds.
    , @CrunchyButRealistCon
    It's noteworthy that while Steyer dropped out, he hasn't endorsed Biden, though he has tweeted warmly to Klobuchar and Buttigieg in the wake of both endorsing Biden. Expect that Bloomberg & Steyer are being told by Big Media to step back into the shadows and stop trying to conspicuously buy status & influence. It's a bit too on the nose for Jewish Billionaires to be so explicit in grasping for power when they already have more power & influence per capita than any other group in the West.
    , @Harry Baldwin
    If Biden were elected, wouldn't he have to immediately be impeached based on the Ukrainian quid pro pro he brags about on tape? I guess that would be a good way for the DNC to get the president it really wants, whoever is his VP.

    Limbaugh occasionally has a perceptive insight. (Slightly edited)

    The Democrat Party expects to lose, they expect to lose the presidency. They don’t want Bernie Sanders to be the nominee because they don’t want that kind of shellacking. They think they’re gonna lose with Biden anyway. And if there’s some shock and Biden wins, there’s somebody that’s gonna actually be president besides him. But the point is that this is all about the Democrat establishment, including media people, protecting themselves against a Democrat electoral defeat.

    This is all about Chuck Todd and all the guys at ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN keeping their jobs and keeping their credibility. It’s all about Donna Brazile keeping her job at the DNC or whatever her job is. It’s all about the Democrat establishment not being swept aside like the Republican establishment was swept aside when Trump won.

    The Democrats do not want that to happen to them. And if it means Joe Biden losing the presidency but they remain intact as the face, as the power structure of the Democrat Party, then that’s what will happen. And they fear, if Bernie Sanders gets the nomination, he’s gonna go down in a stinging defeat, and they don’t want to have to defend Bernie.

    They don’t want to have to be on the Bernie side because they don’t think Bernie and his madcap left-wing radicalism is helpful to them in their positions at the think tanks, at the networks, at the newspapers, you name it.
     
  12. @Handled Pseudonymicaly
    This is the end for Bernie. My prediction is that Biden does better than Bernie, maybe not my much, but he does better. Even if Biden beats Bernie by 1% of the vote, the press will play it up. Cue the calls for unity, for the need to beat Trump above all else.

    Bernie, being a wimp, will go along. Bernie supporters will be pissed, but eventually hold their nose and vote for Biden, or stay home. Biden will lose and we get four more years of Trump.

    Actually Sanders does well with LAtinos and People of Color. HE will kick rearend in Califronia and Texas and New York the only states that matter becasue of their diversity. No matter who wins the democrats will win the general IF everybody is allowed to vote. The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55. Game over.

    Also, Why isnt the virus affecting Africa? Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?

    No wonder white girls are increasingly choosing to bear Children of Black Men.

    They only want the best!

    • Replies: @fish
    Ohs Trent…..


    Still pining fo teh bnak P-nis.
    , @Mr McKenna

    The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55.
     
    Even more remarkable: many of both groups are grandparents.
    , @Unladen Swallow
    He doesn't do well with black voters at all ( who by your definition are persons of color ) because he is Jewish, take it to the bank td.
    , @Prester John
    "Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?"

    Disease--as in "malaria", a scourge in the antebellum south, particularly in Lowland South Carolina and similar such environs.

    Sho' nuff-- dat's wha' dey wuz all field hands, TD.
    , @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1238942744174833669
  13. Increasingly the WHO is revealing itself to be the niche of Third World bureaucrats whose race and ethnicity trump actual public health administration experience. The American CDC still seems reasonably competent but in France the response to COVID-19 resembles the Keystone Cops try their hand at public health. None of this bodes when (not if, but when) a more lethal disease (e.g., tuberculosis that resists all known drug treatments) makes an appearance.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    What makes the WHO incompetent? Considering the perils faced you people should put aside repetitive criticism of PC rot for a moment. You can do that 99% of the time, but now is the time to focus on who is really screwing up.

    Washington, the federal bureaucracy, and local governments are messing this up. There are still direct flights from Milan to JFK today. Why is the Trump administration not grounding very high risk flights?

    There are an estimated several hundred cases spreading in Washington. We can't confirm because of lack of testing infrastructure. The CDC had a decent amount of time to prepare and at first produced defective tests delaying the roll out of mass testing.

    Why aren't schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad? Washington state has complete information clarity compared to what was known in the first week of January but act even more sluggishly than Wuhan bureaucrats.
  14. OT: there are a couple of stories of interest on the “Pulpit & Pen” site.

    A Mississippi man was just charged for defrauding his insurance company after he claimed that “Racist Pro-Trump” graffiti had vandalized his car. It turns out, he did it himself.

    https://pulpitandpen.org/2020/03/02/man-who-reported-racist-pro-trump-vandalism-did-it-himself/

    Pete Buttigieg is dropping out of the Democratic Primary tonight. What the press won’t be forthright about is *why*.

    https://pulpitandpen.org/2020/03/02/black-liberals-and-not-white-evangelicals-put-a-stop-to-buttigiegs-gay-reign-of-terror/

    [MORE]

    Buttigieg cannot win the Democrat vote in the deep South because black Americans largely refuse to support a homosexual candidate (he won a paltry 2-3% in South Carolina). Statistically, black Democrats are less likely to vote for a homosexual candidate than white REPUBLICANS.

    Progressives do not know what to do with this and so the media won’t dive into this fascinating phenomenon. They will acknowledge Buttigieg could not win the black vote but will not acknowledge why.

    Steeped in the ideology of Intersectionality, progressives cannot complain about the “bigotry” of the black community because Critical Theory teaches that minority identity groups cannot commit bigotry.

  15. Inevitably, and pretty soon, it will be March 31 or April 30, by one of these days we will look back and peak acquisition frequency and peak death frequency will be a thing in the rear view mirror getting further distant with each – perfectly normal day.

    It’s true China shut down for a time – and maybe a good thing we should be thankful for, their shutdown is an air bubble that will work its way through the global economy – but the Zombie Apocalypse it is not.

    Every time you see “6th US death”, “13th US death”- return to the CDC for perspective:

    https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

  16. @Anon

    DON'T - attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire "Chinaman's Lung"?

    I think of it as the Kung Flu.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    I prefer the Kung Fu Grippe (apologies to Hasbro).
  17. @Handled Pseudonymicaly
    This is the end for Bernie. My prediction is that Biden does better than Bernie, maybe not my much, but he does better. Even if Biden beats Bernie by 1% of the vote, the press will play it up. Cue the calls for unity, for the need to beat Trump above all else.

    Bernie, being a wimp, will go along. Bernie supporters will be pissed, but eventually hold their nose and vote for Biden, or stay home. Biden will lose and we get four more years of Trump.

    I suspect you are correct. Biden will do better than expected today as the Democratic establishment is throwing all their weight behind Biden. Everything is now pointing to Biden winning the Democratic nomination. Warren stayed in the race because she takes votes away from Sanders, while all the others dropped out to support Biden.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Warren stayed in the race because she takes votes away from Sanders, while all the others dropped out to support Biden.
     
    Sounds legit, unfortunately. I wonder what the inducement was? VP slot??
  18. @Anon

    DON'T - attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire "Chinaman's Lung"?

    The fear of word-triggered pogroms is palpable.

    Viruskristallnacht? WHO knows!

  19. Perhaps Covid-19 is a virus that opens a channel/pathway to infection by TB and or pneumonia since deaths are caused by TB/pneumonia symptoms. It appears that antibiotics have a positive effect, while antivirals do not. Children seem to be unaffected by Covid-19 which is also the case for TB.

  20. Nobody seems to have much of a clue. The stock market didn’t notice the coronavirus until about 10 days ago, after which it dropped like a rock, until it went up 4.5% on Monday. This performance might raise questions about the Efficient Market Theory. It’s almost as if the stock market is made up of human beings who don’t actually have much of a clue about how best to deal with novel situations.

    Riiiight, all those stock market people are in the bottom end of the bell curve; and either can’t read, don’t watch teevee, or simply don’t understand.

    Between trading close on the 21st and Monday’s opening, there was one (→ 1 ←) significant change. Figure that one out and you win a first-class Duh! award. But yeah, that’ll affect the market. And if you don’t believe me, the proof is market close on the 28th and this Monday’s partial rally.

    [MORE]

  21. @Jimi
    Lots of work is going as in people typing, talking on phone and sitting in meetings.

    With telecommuting you'd figure out how little work you need to do to be productive.

    Most of what I do in the office every day could easily be done from home, but the agency I work for has very draconian notions of security and will not allow me to access the VPN.

    Furthermore, a lot of the “work” people do these days is either unnecessary or counterproductive and does nothing to help the big picture or to make anybody happy. People do it for the paycheck, and the paycheck is only a result of the distorted, pseudo-economic conditions of globalism. It will all be given up with a shrug as those conditions change.

    • Replies: @SunBakedSuburb
    The best part of working from home is the nudity.
    , @Muggles
    >>Furthermore, a lot of the “work” people do these days is either unnecessary or counterproductive and does nothing to help the big picture or to make anybody happy. People do it for the paycheck, and the paycheck is only a result of the distorted, pseudo-economic conditions of globalism. It will all be given up with a shrug as those conditions change.<<

    While non productive work is a hallmark of the "government sector" and most government financed technically private non profits, very few private employers hand out paychecks out of goodwill. You obviously haven't studied the most basic economics or run a business.

    People work for a "paycheck" (or self employed) because they aren't born rich. Even then, most born wealthy people end up working doing something, and getting paid.

    Your hazy argument about "pseudo economic conditions of globalism" is mere bafflegab. People have always wanted to get paid. None wanted to work as slaves without pay. What "as those conditions change" are you talking about? Ice cream and lollipops falling from the sky, Marxist style? BernieWorld, where free stuff is given to you? The homeless zombies on the streets are nearly all getting government "disability" payments or something similar. Or are thieves, drug peddlers.

    If you know of some kind of work-less Utopia, please clue us in. Even then, idle people who don't work often end up addicted to something and very unhappy. How much daytime TV can you stand?
  22. And, Biden is still a senile joke. Is he really going to be less of one with more scrutiny?

  23. Isn’t it unfair and hateful to refer to the newest member of our medically vibrant community as a “virus”?

    Viruses are sort-of living things, and who are we to assume we have more right than they do to exist? It’s time to stop calling this thing Corona virus. That depersonalizes it and blames our problem on viruses. This can incite hate speech and hate crimes against viruses. Already people are trying to wipe it out!

    Just call it Corona-chan.

    And who are we to deny it entry into our country and communities, anyway!? Are we not a nation of immigrants?

    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    Someone's opened an NSFW (some cartoon nudity) Tinder account

    Corona-Chan, 19.

    New in town, looking for some fun. From China. Travelling the world!

    Swipe left if you're a doctor/nurse. Swipe right and I'll take your breath away and keep you in bed for days!
     

  24. I think the problem is business runs things in this country, so until it’s clear the coronavirus is going to cost companies money there won’t be a quarantine. Everyone started paying attention after the market crashed.

    SFG, the general consensus now seems to be: better to loose ~.5% of the US population (majority will be older anyway) than to drastically slow the economy for a significant period. The reasoning is that more/younger people will suffer/die from the “economic disaster” that would result from an effort to contain the virus, than would from proceeding on with “business as usual” and losing the 1.5M “old folks”. Seems dystopian to me, but apparently that’s the decision.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Given how very old people in the USA 1) are expensive to maintain and 2) skew white, I can't see how TPTB [not to mention public opinion] will act to save them.

    Disparate Impact only counts when Approved Minorities are affected.
    , @Alden
    The San Francisco convention and hotel business is being hit hard. The big city owned convention center's had every convention scheduled up to June cancelled. Doesn't help that San Francisco airport is one of only 4 airports that still get flights direct from China.
  25. Empty stadiums? Wait ’til there’s an outbreak in a pro locker room after a west coast road swing.

  26. @Buzz Mohawk
    Isn't it unfair and hateful to refer to the newest member of our medically vibrant community as a "virus"?

    Viruses are sort-of living things, and who are we to assume we have more right than they do to exist? It's time to stop calling this thing Corona virus. That depersonalizes it and blames our problem on viruses. This can incite hate speech and hate crimes against viruses. Already people are trying to wipe it out!

    Just call it Corona-chan.

    And who are we to deny it entry into our country and communities, anyway!? Are we not a nation of immigrants?

    Someone’s opened an NSFW (some cartoon nudity) Tinder account

    Corona-Chan, 19.

    New in town, looking for some fun. From China. Travelling the world!

    Swipe left if you’re a doctor/nurse. Swipe right and I’ll take your breath away and keep you in bed for days!

    • LOL: HammerJack
  27. @Jimi
    Lots of work is going as in people typing, talking on phone and sitting in meetings.

    With telecommuting you'd figure out how little work you need to do to be productive.

    There is a lot of work, but how much of that is to use an overused term, “value add”, my general rule of thumb is <20%. If somehow you mandated that people need to clear 80% of their daily calendars, I bet end of the day the business that they are employed by would still function.

  28. …how you used to tie an onion to your belt.

    St David advised Welshmen to tie an onion to your hat, so you could be identified on the battlefield. Sunday was St David’s Day.


    St Piran, whose feast is Thursday, advised Cornishmen to affix a pasty to their hats, which is why Cornwall today is a mere county, rather than a principality like Wales.

    Scotland is a country because they threatened the English that if they didn’t get more autonomy, they’d lift their kilts. They don’t call it “going regimental” for nothing.

    • LOL: Philip Owen
    • Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
    "St David advised Welshmen to tie an onion to your hat"

    Not an onion, it's called a leek, hence the expression "just going to take a leek" ;-)

    Excellent in Welsh lamb stew aka cawl.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/welsh-cawl-recipe-435581
    , @Morton's toes
    Is that an onion or a leek?

    https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/proxy/onUEpe81YBn_eJ5LumvosyvizeDm-HPdI-AgNunlQ8GXwwGl8vK_K_yg_sMMtdjMhdKkUhDyRWsvdHMnF-arqYEG6jxOH_H74XWqmfJJDsbO0aD0Qb8yvUTfgjO2L0rATJWkyRIgs-M5dnc8JugqYA
  29. Steve, the thing I am really looking forward to is how the market reacts tomorrow to how Sanders does today? I really think the market started crashing on Monday after it realized that Sanders could win it all after his Saturday Nevada victory.

    Today despite a huge fed rate cut, the market is still treading water.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    I love this explanation, I wish I had seen this. Of course the market wasn't reacting to the flu (although there was also that wierd set of top level resignations from big companies).
  30. @SFG
    Spotted Toad argued if you did all the telecommuting, everyone would figure out how little work everyone is doing.

    I think the problem is business runs things in this country, so until it's clear the coronavirus is going to cost companies money there won't be a quarantine. Everyone started paying attention after the market crashed.

    In my company there’s a strong selection for extreme extroverts in management. I’ve been pushing to work from home but they’ve been resisting. I seriously think it’s because they need someone to talk to all day.

    Also, if there’s a racial prevalence in this virus there might be unexpected effects. There’s a lot of small and medium sized businesses flying under the radar that are 100% Asian. I could see them folding in an outbreak, hopefully they aren’t industry linchpins.

  31. Maybe going into the office is overblown? Are office workers working hard from home? Maybe the bright future where you can work from anywhere foretold during the Information Superhighway fad of 1993 is finally coming true?

    In a non-manufacturing office, the typical worker averages only 2-3 hours high productivity.

    Many companies could expand out-of-office work while keeping the same level of output.

    Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration?

    Two problems:

    (1) The economics will not work without tickets and concessions.

    (2) Travelling teams, especially basketball, have a large amount of direct physical contact with opposing players. This could spread the disease quickly around the nation if a player is a “carrier” not showing symptoms.

    PEACE 😇

    • Replies: @AnotherDad

    Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration?
     
    Hey, maybe this would be a great time to turn off that nonsense?

    Trump could issue a ban gianormous public pow-wows, and urge people toward other safe recreational pursuits. A non-infected husband and wife enjoying each other's company ... zero risk!
  32. The only cases in which companies might ever tolerate telecommuting would be if your compensation is somehow provided on a piecework basis. That is if you are paid based on a measurable delivery, for example, you are assembling clocks and being paid strictly per clock. Otherwise it is the nature of organizations that they want to physically see you in your spot, doing some sort of work, regardless of how much value it may or may not produce.
    They will use rationalizations such as the idea that everyone needs to be in one place because of the value of interactive teamwork, but that is along the lines of the canard that you need diversity to be more effective. In reality “teams” consist of the exceptional leader who drives the enterprise and comes up with the winning idea and leads everyone to do their assigned tasks. That can be done just fine these days by video conferencing that saves the team members 10 hours a week wasted on commuting.

    • Replies: @Abe

    They will use rationalizations such as the idea that everyone needs to be in one place because of the value of interactive teamwork, but that is along the lines of the canard that you need diversity to be more effective. In reality... [working from home] saves the team members 10 hours a week wasted on commuting.
     
    Did you know Netflix spends over $10 BILLION/year on original content now, including like a gazillion stand-up comedy shows? One of the more exceptional ones was Ali Wong’s BABY COBRA , HBD and GAME-licious on so many levels. In one joke she talked about mistakenly banging a white homeless man she mistook for a hipster, but now she’s married to a great Asian Harvard MBA she adores, yada yada...

    Getting past the comedic hyperbole you realize- 1) she spent her prime nubile years banging out a random assortment of underachieving yet fun white dude slacker types (skateboarders, surfers, artisanal cheesemakers and other assorted hipster types) 2) upon suddenly sighting the wall as she entered her 30’s, an Asian beta provider husband started looking like not such a bad option 3) even then he had to be a super-beta with Harvard MBA and likely 1/2 million take-home income to make the deal worth it 4) despite saying how great he is, deep down she’s not really happy with it all (the old yet very wise HEARTISTE chestnut of getting past the surface of what a woman says and examining what she does or insinuates as indicative of her true feelings); she at one point doth protest too much of how great her hairless husband is in bed, actually comparing him to being with a dolphin

    Anyway, lot of good stuff there, but more on-point is Ali’s observation later in the same show about how one of the perks, as the wife of a rich man who no longer has to come into the office now that she’s mostly a homemaker with some on-again/off-again comedy writer work, is she does not have to use shared bathrooms at the office. I have been telecommuting to my job for over a decade, and while I never thought of that as a major benefit, it is true that in addition the wasted hours driving to and from the office, there’s also the wasted time of walking back and forth from your desk to the restrooms (our offices were big, so that for me was like a least 1 minute each way), and then maybe even more wasted time once you discovered the clean ladies had gotten there before you, or that your stall-neighbor for the day had had a rich Mexican dinner the night before, and it was time to pick another floor, etc.

  33. I like “Wuflu” myself.

  34. @Anon

    DON'T - attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire "Chinaman's Lung"?

    How about the Yellow Virus?

  35. The world is coming to an end.

    A man was treated for a highly poisonous snake bite. In Dublin.

    https://www.irishpost.com/news/dublin-man-falls-victim-first-recorded-venomous-snakebite-ireland-180658

    Those of you who have lived in Hawaii know that pet snakes are highly illegal in that state. Pity Ireland doesn’t have the same laws.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    Uh, they should have just let the snake bite victim win his Darwin Award.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
    , @Pericles
    The Curse of the Degenerate Half-Indian King.
    , @Achmed E. Newman
    Well that does it! I'm not even gonna wear green this St. Patrick's Day. "We were led to believe there would be no snakes ... ya lyin' son of a hussy."
    , @Bubba
    Poor St. Patrick is rolling over in his grave in Northern Ireland.
  36. @Handled Pseudonymicaly
    This is the end for Bernie. My prediction is that Biden does better than Bernie, maybe not my much, but he does better. Even if Biden beats Bernie by 1% of the vote, the press will play it up. Cue the calls for unity, for the need to beat Trump above all else.

    Bernie, being a wimp, will go along. Bernie supporters will be pissed, but eventually hold their nose and vote for Biden, or stay home. Biden will lose and we get four more years of Trump.

    Indeed. *Bernie will eventually endorse Biden. And all those talking about “the moderates splitting the party” will go along, as beating Trump is all that matters. It would be this way no matter which candidate would dominate – everyone will eventually go along, no matter what they say. Leftists always lie, of course.

    They know that it doesn’t matter which Democrat is in the White House, as long as it is any of them.

    Any Democrat means open borders, so that it’s game over for Republicans and Whites. It could be *Bloomberg, *Sanders, Biden, Warren, anyone.

    And any Democrat will appoint leftist judges to the Supreme Court and other courts.

    • Agree: Thea, Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Will Hillary be Biden’s running mate? Her predictit score is rising again. Would she settle for that or will Joe suddenly get coronavirus from all that hand shaking? He’s definitely old enough to die from it.

    The primary season is probably over now, with both Pete and Amy (and even Beto) throwing their support to the Establishment Candidate. How are the Bernie Bros going to like this happening all over again?

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President. I always thought BRA was nonsense, a stand-in for JRA. But who knows? Corona may choose both the Dem candidate and the next president. CRA?
  37. Funny how the The Right Stuff guys laughed and laughed in podcasts a year ago, saying Biden wouldn’t stand a chance if he entered the primaries, because he’s a White man.

    “That’s not the Democrat Party now! It’s the woke party!”

    Back in the real world, away from clever sound bites, it was obvious a veteran Democrat insider and the popular Obama’s vice president would have a very strong chance. When the donors stop playing with the flavor of the month, like O’Rourke or Buttigieg, they switch to Biden as the default position, so Buttigieg had to drop out.

    The fact is, most Democrats want a successful, experienced White man as their candidate. Despite the enormous propaganda. So they want Biden or Bloomberg (“White”). But Bloomberg failed miserably in the debates, so Biden it is.

    This is just like how people prefer watching a White hero in movies and TV shows. Surrounded by non-Whites and homosexual allies, of course. So the journalists can cry “racism” because he’s White. Well, despite all the propaganda, that’s what people prefer. Even non-Whites. Ask women of any race, they prefer to watch a White man instead of a man from any other race aside from, possibly, their own. (And Asian women prefer White men far more than their own, as seen in Yahoo dating site statistics.) White is the default position. Even when they aren’t “racist”.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Not sure what movies and tv shows you watch, but the ones I see often have Magic Negro heroes. And white people lap it up.

    The fun thing is that Bloomberg will not like the idea of being a laughingstock for the remainder of his life. Right now he’s taking votes off Biden and not Sanders.

    The only way I can see him salvaging anything at all is 1) being a kingmaker and throwing his support to Biden because “beating Trump is the most important thing in the world” [the low-risk option] or staying in and hoping for Deus ex Machina to save him. That’s obviously the high risk option because it’ll cost him another 500 million dollars and quite likely his reputation, such as it is.
  38. @Bert
    Regarding stock market behavior, the efficient market hypothesis as advanced by academic economists is bunk; if it weren't, CANSLIM on individual stocks couldn't be so effective. But index-level price action can be said to exhibit a kind of efficiency. Do you recall those long ago twilight conversations among neighbors on the front lawn and the little kids chasing each other, running around and then returning to hide behind their mother before venturing away again. Index price action is like that: price runs back and forth adventurously exploring a level and then recoiling to find a refuge at an earlier level. Then it does the same with other levels. This looks chaotic but to the extent that precedence among the levels can be revealed there is orderly price action. Efficiency theoretically exists, but is hard to come by.

    “Efficiency theoretically exists, but is hard to come by.”

    You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

    • Agree: International Jew
    • Replies: @Bert
    If you aren't interested in the bread crumb trail, that's cool.
  39. Single data point:

    AnotherMom talked yesterday to the gal who manufactures her product in China. She said everyone’s back to work and they are up and running.

    But then she’s down south in Fujian–Xiamen–a good 500 miles from Corona central.

    Still, i’d bet the China numbers are basically legit. They got went hard–in ways the US no longer can–on this thing and seem to have been able to–at great cost–quash the spread.

    • Replies: @UK
    They did this at great cost, as you say. Whether it was worth it or not, I'm unsure. Nonetheless, if it spreads back around to China from abroad, it most certainly won't have been worth it.

    I still have no idea if it is a racist virus, an easily killed by warm weather virus, a deadly virus or a particularly infectious one.

    I am left suspecting that it isn't really that bad.
  40. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:

    Trump’s pharma summit yesterday was a farce.

    Anthony Fauci (supposedly straight shooting CDC guy who’s been there for 30 years) went along with corona virus vaccine myth!

    This is medical Easter Bunny talk. It would require a quantum leap in medicine to create one that actually works. So like the Border Security Theater we will get Corona Virus Theater.

    But at least Fauci did push back on Trump’s ludicrous “two month” timeline.

    This is real Hector Dwayne Elizondo level stuff.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8067015/Donald-Trump-demands-coronavirus-vaccine-two-months-offers-pharma-chiefs-SEATTLE-trials.html

  41. Maybe this all will inspire Italians to have Italian babies again. They got hammered and have had one of the lowest birthdates for a while. Tragedy can have that effect.

  42. @A123

    Maybe going into the office is overblown? Are office workers working hard from home? Maybe the bright future where you can work from anywhere foretold during the Information Superhighway fad of 1993 is finally coming true?
     
    In a non-manufacturing office, the typical worker averages only 2-3 hours high productivity.

    Many companies could expand out-of-office work while keeping the same level of output.

    Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration?
     
    Two problems:

    (1) The economics will not work without tickets and concessions.

    (2) Travelling teams, especially basketball, have a large amount of direct physical contact with opposing players. This could spread the disease quickly around the nation if a player is a "carrier" not showing symptoms.

    PEACE 😇

    Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration?

    Hey, maybe this would be a great time to turn off that nonsense?

    Trump could issue a ban gianormous public pow-wows, and urge people toward other safe recreational pursuits. A non-infected husband and wife enjoying each other’s company … zero risk!

    • Replies: @captflee
    Hey, Dad;

    I suspect a lot of the athletic and other entertainments of the coming months will be rescheduled, played to empty houses for the viewers, or altogether canceled. The Chinese F1 Grand Prix, previously scheduled for mid-April, is already being "rescheduled".

    I used to watch some college basketball (growing up on Tobacco Road it's mandatory), but when the NCAA boycotted the Old North State for her "bathroom bill" I commenced a reciprocal one. They, having emerged victorious from their front of World War T, dropped their boycott, but mine abides. I can't say that I miss watching any form of stick & ball contests, not to the point of it noticeably impacting my life...which leaves open wheel motor racing as my sole vice, and the people running those varied goat rodeos are seemingly as intent on driving me away as are the corporate eunuchs of the NFL. Oh, for the long lost days "when racing was dangerous and sex was safe".

    Who knows what disruptions to the contraceptive supply chain, power outages, and the like might eventuate? Perhaps some good may come of this plague, maybe even a spike in the old stock total fertility rate.
  43. OT: The Pritzger Architecture Prize (the “Nobel Prize of Architecture”) has just been awarded to two female Irish architects (founders of Grafton Architects), among whose award-winning buildings is the University of Engineering and Technology Campus in Lima, Peru, crowned in 2016 by the Royal Institute of British Architects as “the best new building in the world”:

    • LOL: Hibernian
    • Replies: @Lot
    It’s slightly above average for brutalist garbage because it had plants and big windows.
    , @SimpleSong
    This sort of thing makes me so happy the internet exists.

    When I was a young man, I would see buildings like this, and find them incredibly ugly. And yet they won awards and architects fawned over them. And I never heard criticism of these buildings from intelligent laypeople, which I assumed signaled their concurrence with the Pritzkers of the world. So I assumed something was wrong with me.

    The anonymous comment is so valuable: people don't worry about status or the prevailing wisdom or any other social distortion. They write things they would only normally only say to themselves. Posting feels like talking into an empty room, so you fall back to primal desires. For a large portion of the population, the core desire is just to say something that they believe is true.

    You can get a good handle on a person's character and intelligence from a short written snippet so you know that these are people that you respect in real life. Now I know that it isn't just me, lots of intelligent people find this stuff hideous.

    It is much harder for the emperor to walk around naked in this era.
    , @J.Ross
    If you showed this to people and asked them to guess when it was built, they would say 1972.
    , @Bill Jones
    It is clearly time for the role of the Irish in construction to revert to the digging of footings.
  44. Which candidates are most likely to catch CoronaVirus?

  45. “In a typical week I do 15 minutes of real, actual work.” So no telecommuting, as others have said above.

  46. Probably the right move for Klobouchar.

    She didn’t seem to be getting traction as the Anybody-but-Sanders alternative if Biden just doddered off the stage. Seemed like the homo or mini-Mike were getting more attention.

    But she’s not a ridiculous pick for Biden as VP–some sort of “diversity” without getting too nutty–though the BLM attack may prevent that. Then if Biden’s elected, eventually she’d be either the effective or official President. And if not elected, she’s positioned herself well for the next run.

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    Agree.

    I personally think the best running mate for Biden would be a Midwesterner who has proven s/he can get swing and even some Republican voters.

    My first choice would be Sherrod Brown. Brown is, sad to say, a white male. I can’t think of any notable Midwestern black politicians other than Obama, who is not eligible. That leaves women. Amy Klobuchar and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin have shown they can win the swing votes. Baldwin has less name recognition and is a lesbian, which may or may not work against her. Heck, the Howard Stern fans might vote for a lesbian.
    , @Skyler_the_Weird
    Plus she and Pete get to keep the campaign money.
    , @SunBakedSuburb
    "But she's not a ridiculous pick for Biden as VP"

    It won't be Klobuchar. Valerie "Dr. Zira" Jarret declared today that Bernie or stumbling-mumbling Joe will have to choose a woman of color for a running mate. That means Stacey Abrams. The Beast. Joe won't even know he's been neutered. Heart-patient Bernie will cower when the Beast looms over him. The Black Lady Virus will reign supreme. Goodbye Earth.
  47. Anonymous[394] • Disclaimer says:

    PC makes you stupid and just might get you killed.

    Burying the ethno-racial aspect of the contagion is a fucking crime against humanity.

    All efforts and resources shoulda woulda coulda been concentrated like a laser on Chinese/Korean/Japan tourists and diaspora. A serious Sober USA could’ve stopped this thing cold and taken a relatively small financial hit.

    Instead it’s Clown Car USA and we all have to go into the shit as instructed by our PC overlords.

  48. @Paleo Liberal
    The world is coming to an end.

    A man was treated for a highly poisonous snake bite. In Dublin.


    https://www.irishpost.com/news/dublin-man-falls-victim-first-recorded-venomous-snakebite-ireland-180658



    Those of you who have lived in Hawaii know that pet snakes are highly illegal in that state. Pity Ireland doesn't have the same laws.

    Uh, they should have just let the snake bite victim win his Darwin Award.

    Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

  49. @Hegar
    Funny how the The Right Stuff guys laughed and laughed in podcasts a year ago, saying Biden wouldn't stand a chance if he entered the primaries, because he's a White man.

    "That's not the Democrat Party now! It's the woke party!"


    Back in the real world, away from clever sound bites, it was obvious a veteran Democrat insider and the popular Obama's vice president would have a very strong chance. When the donors stop playing with the flavor of the month, like O'Rourke or Buttigieg, they switch to Biden as the default position, so Buttigieg had to drop out.

    The fact is, most Democrats want a successful, experienced White man as their candidate. Despite the enormous propaganda. So they want Biden or Bloomberg ("White"). But Bloomberg failed miserably in the debates, so Biden it is.

    This is just like how people prefer watching a White hero in movies and TV shows. Surrounded by non-Whites and homosexual allies, of course. So the journalists can cry "racism" because he's White. Well, despite all the propaganda, that's what people prefer. Even non-Whites. Ask women of any race, they prefer to watch a White man instead of a man from any other race aside from, possibly, their own. (And Asian women prefer White men far more than their own, as seen in Yahoo dating site statistics.) White is the default position. Even when they aren't "racist".

    Not sure what movies and tv shows you watch, but the ones I see often have Magic Negro heroes. And white people lap it up.

    The fun thing is that Bloomberg will not like the idea of being a laughingstock for the remainder of his life. Right now he’s taking votes off Biden and not Sanders.

    The only way I can see him salvaging anything at all is 1) being a kingmaker and throwing his support to Biden because “beating Trump is the most important thing in the world” [the low-risk option] or staying in and hoping for Deus ex Machina to save him. That’s obviously the high risk option because it’ll cost him another 500 million dollars and quite likely his reputation, such as it is.

  50. @danand

    I think the problem is business runs things in this country, so until it’s clear the coronavirus is going to cost companies money there won’t be a quarantine. Everyone started paying attention after the market crashed.
     
    SFG, the general consensus now seems to be: better to loose ~.5% of the US population (majority will be older anyway) than to drastically slow the economy for a significant period. The reasoning is that more/younger people will suffer/die from the “economic disaster” that would result from an effort to contain the virus, than would from proceeding on with “business as usual” and losing the 1.5M “old folks”. Seems dystopian to me, but apparently that’s the decision.

    Given how very old people in the USA 1) are expensive to maintain and 2) skew white, I can’t see how TPTB [not to mention public opinion] will act to save them.

    Disparate Impact only counts when Approved Minorities are affected.

  51. OT:
    #PittieMommie

    A British woman who ran a shelter for stray dogs in Egypt

    She had also recently taken in a pit bull terrier to save it from being euthanized after it attacked someone

    admitted in a frustrated Facebook post…that she had failed to raise enough money for dog food.

    “So the dogs couldn’t be fed today,” she wrote

    You wont BELIEVE what happens next…

    [MORE]

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard
    I can't decide if that woman is a more worthy of the Darwin Award than snakebite man in Dublin.

    How do people like these feed themselves? Or put on pants in the morning?
    , @anonymous
    "So the dogs couldn’t be fed today,” she wrote"...well yes, they could. Why do so many air-heads wind up sheltering numerous animals? It is kind of sad...they love the dogs, but they do not come close to understanding them.

    People who are experienced breeding and raising dogs would never take this kind of risk.
  52. @Handled Pseudonymicaly
    This is the end for Bernie. My prediction is that Biden does better than Bernie, maybe not my much, but he does better. Even if Biden beats Bernie by 1% of the vote, the press will play it up. Cue the calls for unity, for the need to beat Trump above all else.

    Bernie, being a wimp, will go along. Bernie supporters will be pissed, but eventually hold their nose and vote for Biden, or stay home. Biden will lose and we get four more years of Trump.

    I too think Trump will win, but if worst comes to worst, it would be an interesting politburo-style experience to have an obviously senile leader of ‘the free world’ for a couple of years. (Just a couple? I assume he would croak prematurely under the strain.)

    Don’t worry, the Deep State would of course keep operations running as smoothly as under Obama or as RBG on the Supreme Court.

  53. @Hegar
    Indeed. *Bernie will eventually endorse Biden. And all those talking about "the moderates splitting the party" will go along, as beating Trump is all that matters. It would be this way no matter which candidate would dominate - everyone will eventually go along, no matter what they say. Leftists always lie, of course.

    They know that it doesn't matter which Democrat is in the White House, as long as it is any of them.

    Any Democrat means open borders, so that it's game over for Republicans and Whites. It could be *Bloomberg, *Sanders, Biden, Warren, anyone.

    And any Democrat will appoint leftist judges to the Supreme Court and other courts.

    Will Hillary be Biden’s running mate? Her predictit score is rising again. Would she settle for that or will Joe suddenly get coronavirus from all that hand shaking? He’s definitely old enough to die from it.

    The primary season is probably over now, with both Pete and Amy (and even Beto) throwing their support to the Establishment Candidate. How are the Bernie Bros going to like this happening all over again?

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President. I always thought BRA was nonsense, a stand-in for JRA. But who knows? Corona may choose both the Dem candidate and the next president. CRA?

    • Replies: @Paleo Liberal
    Hm.

    Biden chooses Hillary as VP. Biden gets Corona virus, Hillary winds up getting sworn in instead.

    Interesting concept.

    Or Biden barely makes it to inauguration day, fights with William Henry Harrison for the record.
    , @Jack D

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President.
     
    Uh, he's not the President yet.

    Biden has to know that picking Hillary as his running mate is akin to signing his own death warrant. Biden is not that smart but he's not THAT dumb (I hope).
    , @Hail

    Will Hillary be Biden’s running mate? Her predictit score is rising again
     
    PredictIt has been on a true roller coaster ride the past few days, which raises questions about its value as a data tool.

    This was it for Feb. 20, two weeks ago:

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERMLekSW4AIoFj_.jpg

    From eight, suddenly now there are four (at above 1-cent buy-ins).

    The four still standing now are:

    - Tweetman,
    - Grandpa Simpson,
    - The Soviet Honeymooner, and
    - Zombie-Hillary.

    Back on Feb. 20, AnotherDad reacted to the PredictIt numbers by asking "Where's Pence?"

    AnotherDad says:
    February 20, 2020 at 4:05 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Where’s Pence?

    Trump’s 73, turning 74 in a few months. Social security actuarial tables have chance of death for a year at 3%. Granted Trump seems like he’s in good health and he’ll have 1st class response … but there’s also assisination or “i’m tired of this bullshit, screw it.”

    Pence should clock in at a couple percent. He’s got to be a better pick than Hillary. (Hillary? Seriously? Who are these people?)
     
    A surprising development Tuesday evening is that Pence's stock briefly jumped.

    As vote totals came in and affected perceived outcome probabilities and thus PredictIt numbers, people began buying Pence. He shot up to 2 cents. He's back down to 1 cent as of this writing, but he was at 2-cents a while; people were buying. (Other: Bloomberg dropped to 1 cent quickly after first polls closed. Hillary went up to 3 cents. Bernie went down to 10 cents, and has lost still further ground as of this writing., but that may be panic-selling.)

    The situation about the middle of the 9pm hour EST, as I observed it (implied-probabilities to be elected president on Nov. 3, 2020, as I calculate them, reflecting immediate reaction by the market to Super Tuesday results):

    - 51% Trump
    - 33% Biden
    - 10% Bernie
    - 3% Hillary
    - 2% Mike Pence
    - 1% All Others
  54. Anon[266] • Disclaimer says:

    The COVID-19 pandemic is a false flag hoax.

    As far as Super Tuesday, well, I’ll be voting for Bernie at my local Swellesley polling station here in Massachusetts. My wife refuses to go with me because I start speaking русский язык and then English with a thick Russian accent and then have trouble remembering my name when picking up my ballot (no voter ID). “Excuse mine, veetch vun is Feel like Bern?”

    I didn’t start the Russian hoax but I do my little part to gaslight the shitlibs when possible.

    • Agree: Je Suis Omar Mateen
    • LOL: Harry Baldwin
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    LOLski
  55. @Paleo Liberal
    The world is coming to an end.

    A man was treated for a highly poisonous snake bite. In Dublin.


    https://www.irishpost.com/news/dublin-man-falls-victim-first-recorded-venomous-snakebite-ireland-180658



    Those of you who have lived in Hawaii know that pet snakes are highly illegal in that state. Pity Ireland doesn't have the same laws.

    The Curse of the Degenerate Half-Indian King.

  56. @AnotherDad
    Probably the right move for Klobouchar.

    She didn't seem to be getting traction as the Anybody-but-Sanders alternative if Biden just doddered off the stage. Seemed like the homo or mini-Mike were getting more attention.

    But she's not a ridiculous pick for Biden as VP--some sort of "diversity" without getting too nutty--though the BLM attack may prevent that. Then if Biden's elected, eventually she'd be either the effective or official President. And if not elected, she's positioned herself well for the next run.

    Agree.

    I personally think the best running mate for Biden would be a Midwesterner who has proven s/he can get swing and even some Republican voters.

    My first choice would be Sherrod Brown. Brown is, sad to say, a white male. I can’t think of any notable Midwestern black politicians other than Obama, who is not eligible. That leaves women. Amy Klobuchar and Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin have shown they can win the swing votes. Baldwin has less name recognition and is a lesbian, which may or may not work against her. Heck, the Howard Stern fans might vote for a lesbian.

  57. Abe says:
    @Anon

    DON'T - attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire "Chinaman's Lung"?

    DON’T – attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.

    So, do we have to retire “Chinaman’s Lung”?

    That clamorous cauldron of clicking cacophony you are hearing right about now is ten thousand tiger cubs pounding out their 2028 college admissions essays, each complete with their own lachrymose retelling of how Haven Snubnose or Becky Goodhair cruelly asked if grandma cooks them batwing soup in the garage.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Hey, you're that guy from Lost in Space, right?

    Never even watched the show but I know that guy.

    PS: 2028??

    , @anon
    Before you can say Ho, Lee or Phuc, an essay is already online:

    Jonathan Mok
    Yesterday at 8:45 AM ·

    The spread of coronavirus has resulted in panic across the world — with people debating as to the severity of the situation: is this a deadly virus that we should all be afraid of? Or is it just similar to the common flu? It is without doubt that the medical effects of the COVID-19 has taken the front stage in issues across the world (and rightfully so). However, when we have been focusing solely on the health effects of the coronavirus, we fail to see the social effects that has surfaced from the spread of this virus— where racism has found yet another excuse to rear its ugly head.

    Racist assaults in the past few weeks have been on the rise, with videos and stories of Asian people being targeted — be it verbally or physically.* Personally, I have had experienced several racist statements directed to me in the past weeks, some involving references to the coronavirus. However, stories and videos of racially-motivated assaults always seem like they would never happen to you. After all, people might be racist and might say things, but surely, they wouldn’t dare attack you, especially on one of the busiest streets in London?

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look at the man made the statement. He was still staring at me as he walked past and realised I was looking at him. He shouted ‘Don’t you dare look at me, you ____’ (I could not catch the last word because of the accent). Within 3 seconds, he was in my face, together with 3/4 other young men, and a young lady (all of whom seemed no older than 20 years old, but were all more than a head taller than me). I was shocked and angry because he directed a racist remark at me and had the audacity to shout at me like I had wronged him. All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch. By then, a few passers-by had stopped and one of them tried to reason with them that 4 on 1 was not fair. The attacker’s friend tried to swing a kick at me as I was explaining to the passer-by that I hadn’t done anything at all. I tried to react in self-defence but couldn’t do anything substantial because I was still recovering from a broken finger in my master hand. The guy who tried to kick me then said, ‘I don’t want your coronavirus in my country’, before swinging another sucker punch at me, which resulted in my face exploding with blood (from my nose), where the blood was splattered all across the pavement. Still in daze and shock, the group left promptly from the scene before the police arrived. Following the incident, I followed up with a visit to the A&E and I was told that I had suffered a few fractures in my face and might need to undergo reconstructive surgery to fix some of the bones.

    For those of you who know me, I hate being in the spotlight and I never liked writing posts on Facebook or any social media platform— I only see it as a platform to share memes and hopefully, bring some joy to my friends on social media. However, I felt that this incident highlighted an important issue that needed to be brought into the spotlight. I’ve studied in London for the past 2 years and every year, I am subjected to racist remarks (whether innocent or made with malice). To those people who told me that London isn’t racist, think again.

    I’ve always believed that racism was grounded in stupidity— that people who actually believed one’s ‘racial group’ or ‘nationality’ defines an individual must surely be so ignorant that they deserve my pity. Surely, an ethnic Chinese cannot be ‘British’ or a white-skinned person cannot be Chinese? What makes us ‘Chinese’, ‘Indian’, ‘Malay’ or some other race? Most of us have ancestors of different races. What should we make of a Singaporean who has an English father and a Chinese mother? Is she Chinese or English? What then, should we make of an individual with bloodlines tracing from many different places? How should we classify an individual who has ancestors hailing from Africa, China, England and Italy? Racists argue that people are a certain way because of their race. But how can this argument hold when we realise that race is such a malleable concept? I have believed for long that racism is grounded in stupidity, but I realise today that to say so, is not only being kind to racists, but also gives them an excuse.

    Racism is not stupidity — racism is hate. Racists constantly find excuses to expound their hatred— and in this current backdrop of the coronavirus, they’ve found yet another excuse. From refusing service to a Chinese-looking person to racially-motivated hate crimes, every single one of these acts are based on racism. People dismiss racism with statements such as ‘it’s not all of us — only a minority are racists and this does not reflect on a city/country’. While factually true, not only it does not change the fact that this is an ugly problem that has plagued humanity for a very long time, but also it belittles this problem we have. Racism has changed it form and shape through the years and it is once again rearing its ugly head in light of the COVID-19 crisis.

    People may ask me why did I not fight back? Or some might even say I shouldn’t even have turned when I heard the racist remark — but do any of these answer the question: why should anyone, simply because of the colour of their skin, be subjected to abuse, in any form, verbal or physical? Why should I keep quiet when someone makes a racist remark towards me?

    To the group of guys who saw fit to attack me because of my skin colour: here’s something for you— I stood up to you because I wasn’t afraid, I’ve faced far more intimidating characters in my life. And if you think ganging up on someone who is sizeably smaller than you makes you a big man — it doesn’t. It only makes every single one of you a coward who doesn’t have the balls to take someone on 1 on 1. Grow a pair.

    [To anyone who saw the incident on Monday night (24 Feb 2020) at Oxford Street (just opposite the Primark at Tottenham Court Road), or have any knowledge of or evidence to the incident, please contact me or the Met Police UK to provide evidence to identify the perpetrators!]

    [To the kind lady who helped videotape the incident and call the police, if you read this, please contact me I would like to have a copy of the video! Thank you!]

    *(See: https://edition.cnn.com/…/coronavirus-racist-at…/index.html…)

    Disclaimer update:
    - If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send. It would be ridiculous that the race or skin colour of my attackers should matter. Every single individual can be the subject of racism, and the converse holds true: every single individual can possibly be racist. I am not arguing against racism against Asians, I am merely highlighting that this time, Asians happen to be the target. I believe racism in any form is unacceptable. I've seen comments in my post that have made me truly upset, where people point fingers to certain races, be it to blame them for the attack or for the origin of the coronavirus. These comments, while some of them founded on well intentions, fail to see the message I am trying to send.

    - This post is intended to bring people together and not divide us based on arbitrary things such as skin colour. Comments demonising a group of a certain skin colour (white or black etc) completely defeats the purpose! Even a Chinese can be racist towards a Chinese, and while it is confusing, the point remains that the demonising of a certain assumed race of my attackers only serve to further the message of the racists. It only seeks to divide us even further and it is unfair towards the billions of white/black-skinned people who are defined by their individuality- who are so much more than their skin colour! Demonising a certain group of people because of their skin colour is racist in itself and its completely unacceptable.

    - Sure, attack me, say I deserve it, call me out for being fake news -- it is your right to do so, and dialogue is important in today's society. I appreciate people doubting the credibility of the post, some may intentionally try to hurt me, while others are merely suspicious. I do not blame you because I think it is absolutely necessary for us to be suspicious of everything we see on the Internet. This is my side of the story- I felt targeted because of my race, because of the words said to me, and if you doubt the veracity, I accept that it is your prerogative to do so.

    - However, PLEASE, do not use this post as a platform to continue to propagate racist tendencies- humanity has suffered enough. People of any skin colour can and have suffered racism at some point in our lives and the main point is to realise this is an issue, try to BE THE CHANGE, instead of contributing to racism.

    - On a lighter note, I am aware that the injury to my eye has caused much confusion. Just to clarify, the injury was to the right eye. One image was taken in the mirror and hence, the laterally inverted image. The image that seems so be much swollen was taken as a selfie-- and the bruising only developed in the following day.

    - I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. And even those with unkind things to say, thank you for playing your role in spreading this message. It's been over a week since the incident and the superficial injuries have healed considerably quickly (due to the regular placing of ice packs on my eye).

    - If you have reached here, thank you so much for reading till the end of this post. I just want to say I hope we can all work together to stamp out racism in this world (regardless of whom it is against) and build a better future!
    , @Hail
    Give this man (commenter Abe) an award.
  58. “It was shown in 2011 that it is surprisingly easy to make flu viruses more virulent and transmissible”

  59. @Reg Cæsar

    ...how you used to tie an onion to your belt.
     
    St David advised Welshmen to tie an onion to your hat, so you could be identified on the battlefield. Sunday was St David's Day.


    http://theshakespeareblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Sam-Cox-as-Pistol-and-Brendan-O’Hea-as-Captain-Fluellen-in-Henry-V-c-John-Haynes1.jpg

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/audrawilliams/1099285/22901/22901_original.jpg

    St Piran, whose feast is Thursday, advised Cornishmen to affix a pasty to their hats, which is why Cornwall today is a mere county, rather than a principality like Wales.

    Scotland is a country because they threatened the English that if they didn't get more autonomy, they'd lift their kilts. They don't call it "going regimental" for nothing.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Lyol1pTg8

    “St David advised Welshmen to tie an onion to your hat”

    Not an onion, it’s called a leek, hence the expression “just going to take a leek” 😉

    Excellent in Welsh lamb stew aka cawl.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/welsh-cawl-recipe-435581

  60. Biden’s Delaware is the ninthmost sexually-diseased state in the union. Bernie’s Vermont is dead last.

    Mountainous lily-white states in New England, Appalachia, and the Rockies make up the bottom half-dozen. So much for hillbilly stereotypes.

    Black states are tops,those with Asians or American Indians somewhere in the middle.

    The most sexually diseased states in the United States – Vivid Maps

  61. @Reg Cæsar

    ...how you used to tie an onion to your belt.
     
    St David advised Welshmen to tie an onion to your hat, so you could be identified on the battlefield. Sunday was St David's Day.


    http://theshakespeareblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Sam-Cox-as-Pistol-and-Brendan-O’Hea-as-Captain-Fluellen-in-Henry-V-c-John-Haynes1.jpg

    https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/audrawilliams/1099285/22901/22901_original.jpg

    St Piran, whose feast is Thursday, advised Cornishmen to affix a pasty to their hats, which is why Cornwall today is a mere county, rather than a principality like Wales.

    Scotland is a country because they threatened the English that if they didn't get more autonomy, they'd lift their kilts. They don't call it "going regimental" for nothing.


    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o1Lyol1pTg8

  62. Two brief good bits from NPR:
    Remember how Israel “might” be about to cure Corona? Yesterday NPR’s priority of always explaining how the president is wrong about every single thing required them, when he said a cure was coming soon, to point out that “scientists” say a vaccine could take at least a year.
    Really really good must-listen This American Life piece about a heroic Chinese lawyer who accidentally became a blogger/journalist, touching on many themes including Hong Kong, PRC dysfunction, Wuhan, and the reason we value freedom of speech.
    https://www.thisamericanlife.org/695/everyones-a-critic/act-two-8
    Late add: because the idiot children at TAL don’t know how to journalize I had to search around and add later that the heroic lawyer’s mame is Chen Qiushi. His censored videos are reposted by fans.

  63. @Paleo Liberal
    The world is coming to an end.

    A man was treated for a highly poisonous snake bite. In Dublin.


    https://www.irishpost.com/news/dublin-man-falls-victim-first-recorded-venomous-snakebite-ireland-180658



    Those of you who have lived in Hawaii know that pet snakes are highly illegal in that state. Pity Ireland doesn't have the same laws.

    Well that does it! I’m not even gonna wear green this St. Patrick’s Day. “We were led to believe there would be no snakes … ya lyin’ son of a hussy.”

  64. Amy’s fits of rage (throwing things at staff) is VP-disqualifying, because as President, she would have the nuclear codes. I can’t think of a personality trait more incompatible with being President than having an anger-management problem.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Spend time in our nation's capital and you'll meet lots of congressional staffers. The stories they tell will have you disqualifying all of Capitol Hill--that is, if you weren't already so inclined.
  65. UK says:
    @AnotherDad
    Single data point:

    AnotherMom talked yesterday to the gal who manufactures her product in China. She said everyone's back to work and they are up and running.

    But then she's down south in Fujian--Xiamen--a good 500 miles from Corona central.


    Still, i'd bet the China numbers are basically legit. They got went hard--in ways the US no longer can--on this thing and seem to have been able to--at great cost--quash the spread.

    They did this at great cost, as you say. Whether it was worth it or not, I’m unsure. Nonetheless, if it spreads back around to China from abroad, it most certainly won’t have been worth it.

    I still have no idea if it is a racist virus, an easily killed by warm weather virus, a deadly virus or a particularly infectious one.

    I am left suspecting that it isn’t really that bad.

  66. Voted for Bernie in Memphis, TN today. The only candidate left standing who is not heavily funded by the members of the oligarchy. I like M4A and Student Debt wipe-out but not much more from Bernie. But I like nothing about Biden who is the only other contestant still standing.

    It is clear to me that the Dems really do not actually care about beating Trump as they proclaim. If they actually cared, they would use the electoral college to their advantage for once. How about a real constitutional strategy to keep Trump from getting 270 EC votes?

    At the convention they need to nominate two Democrats for President, but only put up one of them in each state, the one having the best chance beating Trump in that state. That is the best way to keep Trump from reaching 270 EC votes. Then the House of Representatives would pick the President from the three top EC vote getters. The senate would pick the VP from the top two. A number of Presidents were picked this way before the civil war.

    Most likely that would result in a Democratic President and a Republican VP. And we would return the country to a Parliamentary style of government where the governmental representatives pick the leaders of the country.

    But I really don’t think the Dems care about beating Trump. He could very well win the EC even if he loses the popular vote by 5%.

    • Replies: @Muggles
    >>Voted for Bernie in Memphis, TN today.<<

    Next up, then, is that month long vacation in Venezuela. Make sure to bring plenty of toilet paper and everything else you'll need. Socialism ain't for the faint of heart.
    , @AnotherDad

    Most likely that would result in a Democratic President and a Republican VP. And we would return the country to a Parliamentary style of government where the governmental representatives pick the leaders of the country.
     
    Dave--not that it matters, cause this isn't happening--but if you enjoy these sort of speculations you should reread the Constitution's provisions for how the House votes for President. (Hint: it is not a majority vote of Representatives.)
  67. @YetAnotherAnon
    "St David advised Welshmen to tie an onion to your hat"

    Not an onion, it's called a leek, hence the expression "just going to take a leek" ;-)

    Excellent in Welsh lamb stew aka cawl.

    https://www.thespruceeats.com/welsh-cawl-recipe-435581
    • Replies: @ben tillman
    And the Swedish/Norwegian word for onion is lök/løk.
    , @Philip Owen
    Which is why I didn't dive in with an immediate correction.
  68. I predicted November 2016 that if the Democrats nominate a pale stale frail male, they know Trump is handily winning a second term. El Rushbo has finally embraced my ancient prophecy.

    Heart Attack Bernie will dominate super tues.

    Creepy quid pro Joe will stay in the race, hoping for a BJ Clinton-style comeback.

    Legitimate Injun, the only candidate endowed with scientifically-verified Diversity privilege, will drop out.

    Mini Mike will squander another $600 million on his hopeless vanity campaign.

    The fakestream media will pray to Evolution that corona-chan causes a recession — which is the only way Trump loses.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    The virus will quash urban poc turnout. Trumpy as ever playin 5th D chess.
    , @Reg Cæsar

    Heart Attack Bernie will dominate super tues.

    Creepy quid pro Joe will stay in the race, hoping for a BJ Clinton-style comeback.

    Legitimate Injun, the only candidate endowed with scientifically-verified Diversity privilege, will drop out.

    Mini Mike will squander another $600 million on his hopeless vanity campaign.
     

    This is why I no longer attempt predictions.
  69. @Achmed E. Newman
    The stock market is not backed by anything real such as increasing real profits or dividends as back in the day. It is a Ponzi scheme backed by the FED. However, if that's the way to make money right now, or at least not lose it continuously via inflation and the artificially-low interest rates, why not?

    You've got to remember that it's just a game of psychology. When it started going up yesterday, people who were hoping and ready for this rise figured they'd better get in before it makes a full "correction" back up. Then the next people at noon time. Then lots more later in the day. It's just gambling but with slightly better odds than the one-armed bandits*.

    In China, people are doing REAL WORK, making stuff. Not all of that is as automated as it will be some day, so, no, the Chinamen better keep showing up if we want to find cheap sneakers made with 1-year glue on the shelves at Target.

    As for those hilarious WHO tweets, that's probably just the AA guy writing, who WHO had to find something constructive to do and likely doesn't know squat-all about diseases or microbiology. Remember, Steve, it's all WHO, WHOM these days.


    .

    * Which, BTW, don't even spit out change noisily anymore, just a slip of paper. That takes the last fun right out of it - may as well go to the gas station and scratch out some pieces of paper... FOR THE CHILDREN, of course ...

    As for those hilarious WHO tweets, that’s probably just the AA guy writing, who WHO had to find something constructive to do

    Achmed, thank goodness somebody else noticed, and not just me.

    Was there ever anything calculated to inspire LESS public confidence than when the World “Health” Organization trotted our some third-worlder as its front man? People of all races were united in looking at that guy and thinking: “We are gonna die!”

    Also: WHO/Whom is very funny. Terrific meme potential.

  70. @Handled Pseudonymicaly
    This is the end for Bernie. My prediction is that Biden does better than Bernie, maybe not my much, but he does better. Even if Biden beats Bernie by 1% of the vote, the press will play it up. Cue the calls for unity, for the need to beat Trump above all else.

    Bernie, being a wimp, will go along. Bernie supporters will be pissed, but eventually hold their nose and vote for Biden, or stay home. Biden will lose and we get four more years of Trump.

    This has been my expectation as well.
    ——
    A Nepali (!) anon on 4chan posted a scientific paper which says that there is no curing or recovery from The Yellow Peril, it hides from the immune system among neurons: it stays in your spine forever like chicken pox.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.25728

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    I'm about to board a plane so can't check this, but it seems doubtful. Symptoms of viral infections are related to the cells they infect. Example: shingles patterns follow nerve pathways. Also, other Coronavirus infections like SARS and MERS didn't live on. (On the other hand, how do these things keep living in bats?) i think it's more likely that "reinfection" happens when the virus is still in the lung but not in the upper airways, where the lab swabs are taken--ie, the infection was really cleared even though the tesrs were (-)
    , @Anonymous
    Like Epstein-Barr?
  71. MKP says:

    [Off-topic]

    Quietly huge ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court today – the Court rules that state governments ARE permitted to prosecute illegal immigrants for identity theft. This reverses a 2017 decision that said that illegal immigrants could not be prosecuted for identity theft by state governments (even if they were clearly violating a state law) because this was part and parcel of immigration enforcement, and pre-empted by federal authority. Pursuant to today’s ruling, state governments CAN prosecute illegal immigrants for using false ID documents and SS numbers that are not theirs, if the state, in fact, has a law against it.

    Hard to overstate the importance. As you can probably guess, the use of fake documents or someone else’s SSN pervades much of illegal immigrant life in the US. This is becoming more so every year, as employers, landlords, and car dealers increasingly refuse to deal with anyone who can’t present an ID and SSN.

    Also puts liberal state governors and state legislatures in a bind. They want to be “welcoming to all, no person is illegal,” etc. But now they’ll be forced to really stand up and say “we won’t stop anyone from fraudulently using YOUR Social Security number when applying for a job.” A lot of vaguely woke but not-too-political voters would suddenly sit up and take issue with that.

    So, anyway, score one for Trump.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    Thanks for that good news, MKP, and that's a good point in your 2nd-to-last paragraph.
  72. @indocon
    Steve, the thing I am really looking forward to is how the market reacts tomorrow to how Sanders does today? I really think the market started crashing on Monday after it realized that Sanders could win it all after his Saturday Nevada victory.

    Today despite a huge fed rate cut, the market is still treading water.

    I love this explanation, I wish I had seen this. Of course the market wasn’t reacting to the flu (although there was also that wierd set of top level resignations from big companies).

  73. @Achmed E. Newman
    The stock market is not backed by anything real such as increasing real profits or dividends as back in the day. It is a Ponzi scheme backed by the FED. However, if that's the way to make money right now, or at least not lose it continuously via inflation and the artificially-low interest rates, why not?

    You've got to remember that it's just a game of psychology. When it started going up yesterday, people who were hoping and ready for this rise figured they'd better get in before it makes a full "correction" back up. Then the next people at noon time. Then lots more later in the day. It's just gambling but with slightly better odds than the one-armed bandits*.

    In China, people are doing REAL WORK, making stuff. Not all of that is as automated as it will be some day, so, no, the Chinamen better keep showing up if we want to find cheap sneakers made with 1-year glue on the shelves at Target.

    As for those hilarious WHO tweets, that's probably just the AA guy writing, who WHO had to find something constructive to do and likely doesn't know squat-all about diseases or microbiology. Remember, Steve, it's all WHO, WHOM these days.


    .

    * Which, BTW, don't even spit out change noisily anymore, just a slip of paper. That takes the last fun right out of it - may as well go to the gas station and scratch out some pieces of paper... FOR THE CHILDREN, of course ...

    … find cheap sneakers made with 1-year glue on the shelves at Target.

    I nearly spit out my coffee at this. I’ve had so many comfy “Coleman” sandals from Big 5 simply fall apart from glue failure in just one season of use. They were cheep though. You get what you pay for.

  74. Biden doesn’t have a chance against Trump. Then again, if Barack Obama was his running mate? Yeah, he’d have a chance.

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    In a very real sense (that is to say, on television) Obama is his running mate. Because Biden's commercials are pretty much all Obama.
  75. Abe says:
    @Alfa158
    The only cases in which companies might ever tolerate telecommuting would be if your compensation is somehow provided on a piecework basis. That is if you are paid based on a measurable delivery, for example, you are assembling clocks and being paid strictly per clock. Otherwise it is the nature of organizations that they want to physically see you in your spot, doing some sort of work, regardless of how much value it may or may not produce.
    They will use rationalizations such as the idea that everyone needs to be in one place because of the value of interactive teamwork, but that is along the lines of the canard that you need diversity to be more effective. In reality “teams” consist of the exceptional leader who drives the enterprise and comes up with the winning idea and leads everyone to do their assigned tasks. That can be done just fine these days by video conferencing that saves the team members 10 hours a week wasted on commuting.

    They will use rationalizations such as the idea that everyone needs to be in one place because of the value of interactive teamwork, but that is along the lines of the canard that you need diversity to be more effective. In reality… [working from home] saves the team members 10 hours a week wasted on commuting.

    Did you know Netflix spends over $10 BILLION/year on original content now, including like a gazillion stand-up comedy shows? One of the more exceptional ones was Ali Wong’s BABY COBRA , HBD and GAME-licious on so many levels. In one joke she talked about mistakenly banging a white homeless man she mistook for a hipster, but now she’s married to a great Asian Harvard MBA she adores, yada yada…

    Getting past the comedic hyperbole you realize- 1) she spent her prime nubile years banging out a random assortment of underachieving yet fun white dude slacker types (skateboarders, surfers, artisanal cheesemakers and other assorted hipster types) 2) upon suddenly sighting the wall as she entered her 30’s, an Asian beta provider husband started looking like not such a bad option 3) even then he had to be a super-beta with Harvard MBA and likely 1/2 million take-home income to make the deal worth it 4) despite saying how great he is, deep down she’s not really happy with it all (the old yet very wise HEARTISTE chestnut of getting past the surface of what a woman says and examining what she does or insinuates as indicative of her true feelings); she at one point doth protest too much of how great her hairless husband is in bed, actually comparing him to being with a dolphin

    Anyway, lot of good stuff there, but more on-point is Ali’s observation later in the same show about how one of the perks, as the wife of a rich man who no longer has to come into the office now that she’s mostly a homemaker with some on-again/off-again comedy writer work, is she does not have to use shared bathrooms at the office. I have been telecommuting to my job for over a decade, and while I never thought of that as a major benefit, it is true that in addition the wasted hours driving to and from the office, there’s also the wasted time of walking back and forth from your desk to the restrooms (our offices were big, so that for me was like a least 1 minute each way), and then maybe even more wasted time once you discovered the clean ladies had gotten there before you, or that your stall-neighbor for the day had had a rich Mexican dinner the night before, and it was time to pick another floor, etc.

    • Replies: @The Wild Geese Howard

    Ali Wong...
     
    Is horrific for all the reasons you state.

    How does Hollyweird have this uncanny ability to pick out the least attractive, least funny, and most stridently anti-white Asians?

    It's like they have a nose for this sort of thing.
  76. @for-the-record
    OT: The Pritzger Architecture Prize (the "Nobel Prize of Architecture") has just been awarded to two female Irish architects (founders of Grafton Architects), among whose award-winning buildings is the University of Engineering and Technology Campus in Lima, Peru, crowned in 2016 by the Royal Institute of British Architects as "the best new building in the world":

    https://payload.cargocollective.com/1/4/159426/4366323/UTEC-Lima-Grafton-2506_670.jpg

    It’s slightly above average for brutalist garbage because it had plants and big windows.

    • Agree: Mr McKenna
  77. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    The dumping stock market has caused a rally of Democrats to Biden. All those white upper-middle class liberals have just seen their retirement accounts tank–not because of Trump, but because of a virus nobody can control–and they’re frightened that any further chaos might affect themselves financially. They want a candidate who will pour oil on troubled waters and soothe the stock market, not a radical who wants to upend the system like Bernie.

    Look at this way. If the candidates are Trump and Bernie, and the stock market is rock-bottom because of the virus, and the average voter’s net worth has plunged massively, and Bernie want to unleash economic chaos in the name of socialism, and nobody knows how that’s going to play out, the average voter–already scared of losing even more money in the name of a political experiment–is pushing the button for Trump. The market was doing great under Trump until the virus rattled investors.

    Liberals only talk about how generous they are with their money, but when it’s really their money at risk, they’ll run away from radicalism.

    Covid-19 also has played a part in making the DNC get tough with their candidates. They want a clear front-runner right now instead of chaos if most of their primary voters are too sick to get out and vote, and there are too many candidates to vote for. The Dems were looking at trouble anyway just because they had too much vote splitting.

    The Democrats have had their Pearl Harbor moment with Covid-19 and the tanking market. The party elders realize it’s time to go to war and stop placating their stupid, spoiled, bratty little upper-middle white children, who are, after all, likely to survive Covid-19, and live long enough to see the stock market recover. Their elders, however, may be another story. They’re already signaled they’ve had enough of Bloomberg trying to play the spoiler. It’s Biden and nobody else. Bezos is going to be weeping into his protein powder when his chosen candidate tanks.

    • Replies: @ben tillman

    The dumping stock market has caused a rally of Democrats to Biden. All those white upper-middle class liberals have just seen their retirement accounts tank–not because of Trump, but because of a virus nobody can control . . . .
     
    That is not a nice thing to call Bernie!
    , @Achmed E. Newman

    Liberals only talk about how generous they are with their money, but when it’s really their money at risk, they’ll run away from radicalism.
     
    I've never really heard any "Liberals" speak about being generous with their money. I hear them talk about being generous with OUR money, if that's what you mean.

    Good comment, though.

    Also LOL's to Mr. Tillman.
    , @Anon
    Another important point is that who gets sick from Covid-19 during the primary voting season? Younger people get less sick than old people. That's why the Democrats are suddenly desperate to kneecap Sanders. If the 50+ voters are all too sick to vote in the primary, and only the voters aged 49 and below show up, they'll vote for Sanders instead of Biden. That's why the Dem elites are suddenly piling on for Biden right now. They want Warren in the race to split the youth vote between Sanders and Warren, so Biden gets the bulk of the votes with the help of superdelegates.
  78. Maybe going into the office is overblown? Are office workers working hard from home? Maybe the bright future where you can work from anywhere foretold during the Information Superhighway fad of 1993 is finally coming true?

    The struggle is real. I deal with boomer bosses who can’t use Microsoft Office proficiently and are an actual security risk. We can’t go fully “office-less” until they’re all phased out.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    And I deal with Millennials who would rather watch a You Tube talking head for 25 minutes than spend 5 minutes reading the same information. Or OTOH type 20 text messages instead of making a 3 minute phone call.
    , @J.Ross
    I was just reflecting on my real terror of white collar environments (inb4 "you would never qualify," I have done IT, secretarial and educational work). In the past the money and in some cases security was so good a guy would be an idiot to have my attitide. The money stopped being a sure thing a while back (except for certain jobs), and now there's the cultural thing and the Apple product keeping you there 24 hours a day. However, the very things I fear are probably somebody's cup of tea. Besides boomer technological illiteracy, there are probably people embracing office life because it's an office.
  79. @Achmed E. Newman
    As an American, I don't have a Chinaman's chance of getting Corona ....

    .


    ...except in 12 -oz bottles.

    It is also sold in 7-oz. bottles. And in cans.

    • Thanks: Achmed E. Newman
  80. @Tiny Duck
    Actually Sanders does well with LAtinos and People of Color. HE will kick rearend in Califronia and Texas and New York the only states that matter becasue of their diversity. No matter who wins the democrats will win the general IF everybody is allowed to vote. The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55. Game over.


    Also, Why isnt the virus affecting Africa? Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?

    No wonder white girls are increasingly choosing to bear Children of Black Men.

    They only want the best!

    Ohs Trent…..

    Still pining fo teh bnak P-nis.

  81. the WHO messaging has been full of hypocrisy and doublespeak.

    They’ve been telling countries not to impose travel bans.

    But the only thing that’s worked is: travel bans which is what China did.

    And what markedly DIDN’T work? Travel! esp pilgrimages to Iran which are what probably drove about half the nails in the coffin of containment…

  82. @HammerJack
    Will Hillary be Biden’s running mate? Her predictit score is rising again. Would she settle for that or will Joe suddenly get coronavirus from all that hand shaking? He’s definitely old enough to die from it.

    The primary season is probably over now, with both Pete and Amy (and even Beto) throwing their support to the Establishment Candidate. How are the Bernie Bros going to like this happening all over again?

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President. I always thought BRA was nonsense, a stand-in for JRA. But who knows? Corona may choose both the Dem candidate and the next president. CRA?

    Hm.

    Biden chooses Hillary as VP. Biden gets Corona virus, Hillary winds up getting sworn in instead.

    Interesting concept.

    Or Biden barely makes it to inauguration day, fights with William Henry Harrison for the record.

    • LOL: Liza
    • Replies: @anon
    Biden chooses Hillary as VP. Biden gets Corona virus, Hillary winds up getting sworn in instead.

    Lol. "Corona virus", or maybe he lays down on a railroad track for a nap, or decides to go to Fort Marcy park by himself in a moment of depression, etc. Dunno how the Secret Service would handle an attempt on the President by agents of the VP. Could be a little bit delicate.

    But Hillary! isn't in all that great health herself, what if she caught the job she's been chasing and then stroked out? Well, I believe that makes Speaker To Boomers Pelosi move to the Oval Office, but she's not doing so hot either in the health department. Who comes after that, Pompeo?

    Whatever. It really is weird to look at all these 70-somethings vying for a job that could stress them to death in a matter of months.

    New Boomer motto: "Don't trust anyone under 60!" Kidding, just kidding. But not really.
  83. @Reg Cæsar

    And the Swedish/Norwegian word for onion is lök/løk.

  84. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:

    Some thought about why people in hotter climates (China, Italy, Iran, South Korea) appear to be getting hit harder than those from more northerly climates (Great Britain, Scandinavia, US, Russia).

    It’s known that hot weather slows the spread of viruses because it dries them out and exposes them to UV, which kills them. But, this may mean that hotter, sunnier climates, historically speaking, may have populations that have lower levels of immunity to common respiratory viruses such as the flu, pneumonia, etc., because these viruses have a much harder time spreading throughout these populations. Northern populations may have a higher antibody load against a whole class of respiratory viruses because more people get them over a long, cold, dry winter. That may account for the some of the infection pattern we’re seeing.

    Therefore, what we may be seeing is an abnormal viral creep southward because of the season. If so, Covid-19 will weaken when the Northern Hemisphere enters spring and summer. However, it’ll start really going in those countries below the equator during that time because they’ll be starting their winter season during a pandemic.

  85. @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT:
    #PittieMommie


    A British woman who ran a shelter for stray dogs in Egypt
    ...
    She had also recently taken in a pit bull terrier to save it from being euthanized after it attacked someone
    ...
    admitted in a frustrated Facebook post...that she had failed to raise enough money for dog food.

    “So the dogs couldn’t be fed today,” she wrote

     

    You wont BELIEVE what happens next...

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/5b/68/085b68a642e92fa81e0db070772ed1d4.jpg

    I can’t decide if that woman is a more worthy of the Darwin Award than snakebite man in Dublin.

    How do people like these feed themselves? Or put on pants in the morning?

    • Replies: @HammerJack
    Poor woman! Well, at least her heart is in the right place.

    A pit bull's belly.

  86. @for-the-record
    OT: The Pritzger Architecture Prize (the "Nobel Prize of Architecture") has just been awarded to two female Irish architects (founders of Grafton Architects), among whose award-winning buildings is the University of Engineering and Technology Campus in Lima, Peru, crowned in 2016 by the Royal Institute of British Architects as "the best new building in the world":

    https://payload.cargocollective.com/1/4/159426/4366323/UTEC-Lima-Grafton-2506_670.jpg

    This sort of thing makes me so happy the internet exists.

    When I was a young man, I would see buildings like this, and find them incredibly ugly. And yet they won awards and architects fawned over them. And I never heard criticism of these buildings from intelligent laypeople, which I assumed signaled their concurrence with the Pritzkers of the world. So I assumed something was wrong with me.

    The anonymous comment is so valuable: people don’t worry about status or the prevailing wisdom or any other social distortion. They write things they would only normally only say to themselves. Posting feels like talking into an empty room, so you fall back to primal desires. For a large portion of the population, the core desire is just to say something that they believe is true.

    You can get a good handle on a person’s character and intelligence from a short written snippet so you know that these are people that you respect in real life. Now I know that it isn’t just me, lots of intelligent people find this stuff hideous.

    It is much harder for the emperor to walk around naked in this era.

    • Agree: kihowi
    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    Tom Wolfe wrote a book about bad architecture: From Bauhaus to Our House
  87. @Abe

    They will use rationalizations such as the idea that everyone needs to be in one place because of the value of interactive teamwork, but that is along the lines of the canard that you need diversity to be more effective. In reality... [working from home] saves the team members 10 hours a week wasted on commuting.
     
    Did you know Netflix spends over $10 BILLION/year on original content now, including like a gazillion stand-up comedy shows? One of the more exceptional ones was Ali Wong’s BABY COBRA , HBD and GAME-licious on so many levels. In one joke she talked about mistakenly banging a white homeless man she mistook for a hipster, but now she’s married to a great Asian Harvard MBA she adores, yada yada...

    Getting past the comedic hyperbole you realize- 1) she spent her prime nubile years banging out a random assortment of underachieving yet fun white dude slacker types (skateboarders, surfers, artisanal cheesemakers and other assorted hipster types) 2) upon suddenly sighting the wall as she entered her 30’s, an Asian beta provider husband started looking like not such a bad option 3) even then he had to be a super-beta with Harvard MBA and likely 1/2 million take-home income to make the deal worth it 4) despite saying how great he is, deep down she’s not really happy with it all (the old yet very wise HEARTISTE chestnut of getting past the surface of what a woman says and examining what she does or insinuates as indicative of her true feelings); she at one point doth protest too much of how great her hairless husband is in bed, actually comparing him to being with a dolphin

    Anyway, lot of good stuff there, but more on-point is Ali’s observation later in the same show about how one of the perks, as the wife of a rich man who no longer has to come into the office now that she’s mostly a homemaker with some on-again/off-again comedy writer work, is she does not have to use shared bathrooms at the office. I have been telecommuting to my job for over a decade, and while I never thought of that as a major benefit, it is true that in addition the wasted hours driving to and from the office, there’s also the wasted time of walking back and forth from your desk to the restrooms (our offices were big, so that for me was like a least 1 minute each way), and then maybe even more wasted time once you discovered the clean ladies had gotten there before you, or that your stall-neighbor for the day had had a rich Mexican dinner the night before, and it was time to pick another floor, etc.

    Ali Wong…

    Is horrific for all the reasons you state.

    How does Hollyweird have this uncanny ability to pick out the least attractive, least funny, and most stridently anti-white Asians?

    It’s like they have a nose for this sort of thing.

    • LOL: Mr McKenna
  88. Definitely Virus Monday, Iran is halfway to smoldering corpse pyramids:


    BBC Publishes Leaked Iran Footage Showing Bagged Bodies Of Covid-19 Victims Piling Up

    https://www.zerohedge.com/health/bbc-publishes-leaked-iran-footage-bagged-bodies-covid-19-victims-piling

    More shocking leaked footage published by the BBC shows bodies piling up at a local morgue in Qom, said to be victims of the country’s spiraling coronavirus outbreak.

  89. Why has no one mentioned Tulsi?

    As in, Gabbard.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    Because the Zionists ordered the MSM and the DNC to blackball her and thus she has no shot whatsoever of getting more than 5% of the vote anywhere.
    , @vhrm
    i was hoping for Yang/Gabbard for a while.

    Nobody talks about her because her poll numbers are very low.

    Basically check https://fivethirtyeight.com for what's possible and what's likely in US elections nowadays.

    They're themselves media lefties, BUT they take their work seriously and know math and modeling (afaict anyway) and they care a lot more about predicting accurately, and communicating the strength of the predictions, than anything else. They actually discuss when they were right vs wrong and why... it's good stuff.
  90. @Hail
    Why has no one mentioned Tulsi?

    As in, Gabbard.

    Because the Zionists ordered the MSM and the DNC to blackball her and thus she has no shot whatsoever of getting more than 5% of the vote anywhere.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting
    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa.
  91. OT

    Is this the oldest and least familiar reference to the racism of “our culture” in the reference to Warner Oland in this article about the harm film characterizations and whitewashing of Asian maleness has done:

    https://www.cnn.com/style/article/andrew-kung-asian-american-men/index.html

    I noticed the expected Mickey Rooney reference, a film that was cast 60 years ago. But Warner Oland I assumed had to be a new starlet sending shockwaves through the industry with his outdated stereotypes of Asians in the current year.

    Turns out he DIED in 1938.

    • Replies: @anon
    Excuse, please. Honorable picture is required of famous detective from Honolulu Police Department.

    http://www.mysticgames.com/famouspeople/pictures/WarnerOland.jpg

    Also Number One Son, Key Luke.

    http://stevecotler.com/tales/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/keye-luke.jpg

    Stories date to the 1920's. An East Asian protagonist / hero rather than antagonist was a welcome novelty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chan
  92. @Anon
    The dumping stock market has caused a rally of Democrats to Biden. All those white upper-middle class liberals have just seen their retirement accounts tank--not because of Trump, but because of a virus nobody can control--and they're frightened that any further chaos might affect themselves financially. They want a candidate who will pour oil on troubled waters and soothe the stock market, not a radical who wants to upend the system like Bernie.

    Look at this way. If the candidates are Trump and Bernie, and the stock market is rock-bottom because of the virus, and the average voter's net worth has plunged massively, and Bernie want to unleash economic chaos in the name of socialism, and nobody knows how that's going to play out, the average voter--already scared of losing even more money in the name of a political experiment--is pushing the button for Trump. The market was doing great under Trump until the virus rattled investors.

    Liberals only talk about how generous they are with their money, but when it's really their money at risk, they'll run away from radicalism.

    Covid-19 also has played a part in making the DNC get tough with their candidates. They want a clear front-runner right now instead of chaos if most of their primary voters are too sick to get out and vote, and there are too many candidates to vote for. The Dems were looking at trouble anyway just because they had too much vote splitting.

    The Democrats have had their Pearl Harbor moment with Covid-19 and the tanking market. The party elders realize it's time to go to war and stop placating their stupid, spoiled, bratty little upper-middle white children, who are, after all, likely to survive Covid-19, and live long enough to see the stock market recover. Their elders, however, may be another story. They're already signaled they've had enough of Bloomberg trying to play the spoiler. It's Biden and nobody else. Bezos is going to be weeping into his protein powder when his chosen candidate tanks.

    The dumping stock market has caused a rally of Democrats to Biden. All those white upper-middle class liberals have just seen their retirement accounts tank–not because of Trump, but because of a virus nobody can control . . . .

    That is not a nice thing to call Bernie!

    • LOL: Muggles
  93. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:

    In 2 years earth shattering New England Journal of Medicine report that Coronvirus “community spread” was mostly by pharmacy checkout touchpads.

  94. @danand

    I think the problem is business runs things in this country, so until it’s clear the coronavirus is going to cost companies money there won’t be a quarantine. Everyone started paying attention after the market crashed.
     
    SFG, the general consensus now seems to be: better to loose ~.5% of the US population (majority will be older anyway) than to drastically slow the economy for a significant period. The reasoning is that more/younger people will suffer/die from the “economic disaster” that would result from an effort to contain the virus, than would from proceeding on with “business as usual” and losing the 1.5M “old folks”. Seems dystopian to me, but apparently that’s the decision.

    The San Francisco convention and hotel business is being hit hard. The big city owned convention center’s had every convention scheduled up to June cancelled. Doesn’t help that San Francisco airport is one of only 4 airports that still get flights direct from China.

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    couldn't happen to a nicer town...
  95. @Polynikes
    ”But what kind of economic production are they getting in China these days?”.

    Manufacturing. Anybody remember that industry?

    This is why a lot of the focus has been on Apple and other places with major supply chains rooted in China. Nobody cares about the office workers.

    On an anecdotal note, I have a friend’s wedding coming up where the flower girls’ dresses were ordered online (obviously manufactured/sewn) in China and there’s about a month delay on shipping, so far, do to this situation. It gets too much longer and they’ll just cancel the order and buy something domestic. Now multiple that transaction by a million (probably more like a billion) and you can see the potential something like this has to ripple out to the world economy.

    Fortunately, it seems like just the one province was shut down and the worst is over. Also, there are claims of China using slave labor from their Muslim population, but that’s probably another story altogether.

    I order little things now and then from China on ebay – the differences in price are enormous. For example, miniature car lamps (the little bulbs that light up your license plate or side markers) are 10 for $1 from China or 2 for $5.99 at your local auto parts store – the ones at the auto parts store are from China too. The one downside of ordering from China is that it can take months for the stuff to arrive so if you need that bulb tomorrow, fuggedaboutit. (Instead, order spares of all the bulbs on your car now, before you need them. You’ll spend less on a complete set of multiple spares than you will at the auto parts store the first time you urgently need 1 bulb. There’s a list of all the bulbs in the back of your owners manual. Keep the spares in your glove box and you’ll know where to find them when you need them.). Anyway, I’ve noticed that since this whole coronavirus thing, the stuff I order on ebay arrives FASTER than usual. I don’t know the explanation – empty space for air cargo vs. container ship?

    • Replies: @Lot
    Me too. Not just China, also HK, Thailand, Malaysia and Kazakstan.

    eBay is the main source, but AliExpress is looking interesting too. Some Amazon sellers ship slowly from China too.
  96. @Reg Cæsar

    Which is why I didn’t dive in with an immediate correction.

  97. @Hail
    Why has no one mentioned Tulsi?

    As in, Gabbard.

    i was hoping for Yang/Gabbard for a while.

    Nobody talks about her because her poll numbers are very low.

    Basically check https://fivethirtyeight.com for what’s possible and what’s likely in US elections nowadays.

    They’re themselves media lefties, BUT they take their work seriously and know math and modeling (afaict anyway) and they care a lot more about predicting accurately, and communicating the strength of the predictions, than anything else. They actually discuss when they were right vs wrong and why… it’s good stuff.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    Actually, her poll numbers are low because nobody talks about her--because she challenged our Zionist foreign policy, and was blackballed by the MSM and the DNC.

    She's the dream candidate on paper. But she dared pretend America isn't a vassal state.
  98. @HammerJack
    Will Hillary be Biden’s running mate? Her predictit score is rising again. Would she settle for that or will Joe suddenly get coronavirus from all that hand shaking? He’s definitely old enough to die from it.

    The primary season is probably over now, with both Pete and Amy (and even Beto) throwing their support to the Establishment Candidate. How are the Bernie Bros going to like this happening all over again?

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President. I always thought BRA was nonsense, a stand-in for JRA. But who knows? Corona may choose both the Dem candidate and the next president. CRA?

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President.

    Uh, he’s not the President yet.

    Biden has to know that picking Hillary as his running mate is akin to signing his own death warrant. Biden is not that smart but he’s not THAT dumb (I hope).

    • Replies: @fish

    Biden has to know that picking Hillary as his running mate is akin to signing his own death warrant. Biden is not that smart but he’s not THAT dumb (I hope).
     
    At this age Biden probably just wants to cross the finish line in first! Actually being President……at 80……fuck that!
    , @Jonathan Mason

    Biden has to know that picking Hillary as his running mate is akin to signing his own death warrant.
     
    Rather in the same way that Julius Caesar regretted appointing Brutus as his VP.
  99. @Kronos

    Maybe going into the office is overblown? Are office workers working hard from home? Maybe the bright future where you can work from anywhere foretold during the Information Superhighway fad of 1993 is finally coming true?
     
    The struggle is real. I deal with boomer bosses who can’t use Microsoft Office proficiently and are an actual security risk. We can’t go fully “office-less” until they’re all phased out.

    https://youtu.be/pFBY4-YH9KA

    And I deal with Millennials who would rather watch a You Tube talking head for 25 minutes than spend 5 minutes reading the same information. Or OTOH type 20 text messages instead of making a 3 minute phone call.

    • Agree: Louis Renault
    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Bad analogy: in your example, the job is still getting done, and the person is young anyway. In his, the person has training and experience but is effectively abdicating a responsibility.
    , @Dr. Krieger
    X'er here. I'm with you on the Millenials and texting. Now I like texting socially, but after about 2 work related texts from a guy out in the field, asking where to land the cable on Sheet 235, I just call them and clear it up in 30 seconds (and then wonder why they can't read a damn schematic).

    When it's time to get the print package and program together, I could easily work from home. When it comes to building the Dyno, you gotta be able to head out to the floor and handle things.
  100. anonymous[100] • Disclaimer says:
    @Diversity Heretic
    Increasingly the WHO is revealing itself to be the niche of Third World bureaucrats whose race and ethnicity trump actual public health administration experience. The American CDC still seems reasonably competent but in France the response to COVID-19 resembles the Keystone Cops try their hand at public health. None of this bodes when (not if, but when) a more lethal disease (e.g., tuberculosis that resists all known drug treatments) makes an appearance.

    What makes the WHO incompetent? Considering the perils faced you people should put aside repetitive criticism of PC rot for a moment. You can do that 99% of the time, but now is the time to focus on who is really screwing up.

    Washington, the federal bureaucracy, and local governments are messing this up. There are still direct flights from Milan to JFK today. Why is the Trump administration not grounding very high risk flights?

    There are an estimated several hundred cases spreading in Washington. We can’t confirm because of lack of testing infrastructure. The CDC had a decent amount of time to prepare and at first produced defective tests delaying the roll out of mass testing.

    Why aren’t schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad? Washington state has complete information clarity compared to what was known in the first week of January but act even more sluggishly than Wuhan bureaucrats.

    • Agree: epebble
    • Replies: @epebble
    I am in Oregon and watching the situation in Seattle area; it does not inspire confidence. After 9 deaths and 100s of possible infections, they still don't have enough test kits or supplies (same here in OR and also CA, NY). The state epidemiologists in both WA and OR are saying this virus has been around for at least 6 weeks (undetected) and 100s of infections are expected. They are finding infections in people in deep interior rural areas like Umatilla Indian Reservation and Wenatchee, WA where no one has a clue where China or Italy is on the globe. Just watched how China is tackling the problem with a military like precision ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rrn7fmOn1o ). If this is what is needed to fight it, we have a big problem with our what appears to be a patchwork system.
    , @Lugash
    It seems like it's worse than China. Chinese coronavirus cases were highly concentrated in Hubei, in the US we've already got two main outbreaks in CA and WA, with others on the way.
    , @Mr McKenna

    Why aren’t schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad?
     
    Because Racism, duh.
  101. Intentional transmission is literally a thing; the World of Warcraft experiment proved it.

    Of course, most transmission is accidental, but all it takes is one bug chaser/purveyor.

  102. anon[386] • Disclaimer says:
    @Paleo Liberal
    Hm.

    Biden chooses Hillary as VP. Biden gets Corona virus, Hillary winds up getting sworn in instead.

    Interesting concept.

    Or Biden barely makes it to inauguration day, fights with William Henry Harrison for the record.

    Biden chooses Hillary as VP. Biden gets Corona virus, Hillary winds up getting sworn in instead.

    Lol. “Corona virus”, or maybe he lays down on a railroad track for a nap, or decides to go to Fort Marcy park by himself in a moment of depression, etc. Dunno how the Secret Service would handle an attempt on the President by agents of the VP. Could be a little bit delicate.

    But Hillary! isn’t in all that great health herself, what if she caught the job she’s been chasing and then stroked out? Well, I believe that makes Speaker To Boomers Pelosi move to the Oval Office, but she’s not doing so hot either in the health department. Who comes after that, Pompeo?

    Whatever. It really is weird to look at all these 70-somethings vying for a job that could stress them to death in a matter of months.

    New Boomer motto: “Don’t trust anyone under 60!” Kidding, just kidding. But not really.

  103. @Jack D

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President.
     
    Uh, he's not the President yet.

    Biden has to know that picking Hillary as his running mate is akin to signing his own death warrant. Biden is not that smart but he's not THAT dumb (I hope).

    Biden has to know that picking Hillary as his running mate is akin to signing his own death warrant. Biden is not that smart but he’s not THAT dumb (I hope).

    At this age Biden probably just wants to cross the finish line in first! Actually being President……at 80……fuck that!

  104. @AnotherDad
    Probably the right move for Klobouchar.

    She didn't seem to be getting traction as the Anybody-but-Sanders alternative if Biden just doddered off the stage. Seemed like the homo or mini-Mike were getting more attention.

    But she's not a ridiculous pick for Biden as VP--some sort of "diversity" without getting too nutty--though the BLM attack may prevent that. Then if Biden's elected, eventually she'd be either the effective or official President. And if not elected, she's positioned herself well for the next run.

    Plus she and Pete get to keep the campaign money.

  105. @RichardTaylor
    I can't believe the Dems would nominate an obvious loser like Biden. Of course, Bernie may be a big loser too, but at least it would make the race dramatic. And I like the idea of liberal billionaires being afraid of a commie in office.

    “And I like the idea of liberal billionaires being afraid of a commie in office.”

    Liberal billionaires are rapacious capitalists and cultural Marxists. The best of both worlds.

  106. @Intelligent Dasein
    Most of what I do in the office every day could easily be done from home, but the agency I work for has very draconian notions of security and will not allow me to access the VPN.

    Furthermore, a lot of the "work" people do these days is either unnecessary or counterproductive and does nothing to help the big picture or to make anybody happy. People do it for the paycheck, and the paycheck is only a result of the distorted, pseudo-economic conditions of globalism. It will all be given up with a shrug as those conditions change.

    The best part of working from home is the nudity.

  107. @Intelligent Dasein
    Most of what I do in the office every day could easily be done from home, but the agency I work for has very draconian notions of security and will not allow me to access the VPN.

    Furthermore, a lot of the "work" people do these days is either unnecessary or counterproductive and does nothing to help the big picture or to make anybody happy. People do it for the paycheck, and the paycheck is only a result of the distorted, pseudo-economic conditions of globalism. It will all be given up with a shrug as those conditions change.

    >>Furthermore, a lot of the “work” people do these days is either unnecessary or counterproductive and does nothing to help the big picture or to make anybody happy. People do it for the paycheck, and the paycheck is only a result of the distorted, pseudo-economic conditions of globalism. It will all be given up with a shrug as those conditions change.<<

    While non productive work is a hallmark of the "government sector" and most government financed technically private non profits, very few private employers hand out paychecks out of goodwill. You obviously haven't studied the most basic economics or run a business.

    People work for a "paycheck" (or self employed) because they aren't born rich. Even then, most born wealthy people end up working doing something, and getting paid.

    Your hazy argument about "pseudo economic conditions of globalism" is mere bafflegab. People have always wanted to get paid. None wanted to work as slaves without pay. What "as those conditions change" are you talking about? Ice cream and lollipops falling from the sky, Marxist style? BernieWorld, where free stuff is given to you? The homeless zombies on the streets are nearly all getting government "disability" payments or something similar. Or are thieves, drug peddlers.

    If you know of some kind of work-less Utopia, please clue us in. Even then, idle people who don't work often end up addicted to something and very unhappy. How much daytime TV can you stand?

  108. @davidgmillsatty
    Voted for Bernie in Memphis, TN today. The only candidate left standing who is not heavily funded by the members of the oligarchy. I like M4A and Student Debt wipe-out but not much more from Bernie. But I like nothing about Biden who is the only other contestant still standing.

    It is clear to me that the Dems really do not actually care about beating Trump as they proclaim. If they actually cared, they would use the electoral college to their advantage for once. How about a real constitutional strategy to keep Trump from getting 270 EC votes?

    At the convention they need to nominate two Democrats for President, but only put up one of them in each state, the one having the best chance beating Trump in that state. That is the best way to keep Trump from reaching 270 EC votes. Then the House of Representatives would pick the President from the three top EC vote getters. The senate would pick the VP from the top two. A number of Presidents were picked this way before the civil war.

    Most likely that would result in a Democratic President and a Republican VP. And we would return the country to a Parliamentary style of government where the governmental representatives pick the leaders of the country.

    But I really don't think the Dems care about beating Trump. He could very well win the EC even if he loses the popular vote by 5%.

    >>Voted for Bernie in Memphis, TN today.<<

    Next up, then, is that month long vacation in Venezuela. Make sure to bring plenty of toilet paper and everything else you'll need. Socialism ain't for the faint of heart.

  109. @Anon
    Question: Will the epidemic reduce voting, and who gains if absentee voting is a bigger factor, in California?

    It is so perfect that thousands and thousands of early voters voted for Steyer, Butt-man, and Klobo believing their campaigns would continue through Super Tuesday.

    The Dems love to brag about how they don’t disenfranchise people–like those meany Republicans.

    You can’t make up this stuff!

  110. @Anon
    The COVID-19 pandemic is a false flag hoax.

    As far as Super Tuesday, well, I’ll be voting for Bernie at my local Swellesley polling station here in Massachusetts. My wife refuses to go with me because I start speaking русский язык and then English with a thick Russian accent and then have trouble remembering my name when picking up my ballot (no voter ID). “Excuse mine, veetch vun is Feel like Bern?”

    I didn’t start the Russian hoax but I do my little part to gaslight the shitlibs when possible.

    LOLski

  111. @AnotherDad
    Probably the right move for Klobouchar.

    She didn't seem to be getting traction as the Anybody-but-Sanders alternative if Biden just doddered off the stage. Seemed like the homo or mini-Mike were getting more attention.

    But she's not a ridiculous pick for Biden as VP--some sort of "diversity" without getting too nutty--though the BLM attack may prevent that. Then if Biden's elected, eventually she'd be either the effective or official President. And if not elected, she's positioned herself well for the next run.

    “But she’s not a ridiculous pick for Biden as VP”

    It won’t be Klobuchar. Valerie “Dr. Zira” Jarret declared today that Bernie or stumbling-mumbling Joe will have to choose a woman of color for a running mate. That means Stacey Abrams. The Beast. Joe won’t even know he’s been neutered. Heart-patient Bernie will cower when the Beast looms over him. The Black Lady Virus will reign supreme. Goodbye Earth.

    • Replies: @anonymous
    Absolutely. A Black VP will guarantee 92-95% of the Black vote.

    Maybe Kamala Harris?
    , @vhrm
    ugh... now THAT's a depressing proposition.

    Both Biden or Sanders could drop dead at any point. (i don't mean this cruelly; just that they're getting on in years)

    President Stacey Abrams would be like listening to a BLM rally every morning and a MeToo rally every night. let's hope it doesn't come to pass.

  112. @Jack D
    I order little things now and then from China on ebay - the differences in price are enormous. For example, miniature car lamps (the little bulbs that light up your license plate or side markers) are 10 for $1 from China or 2 for $5.99 at your local auto parts store - the ones at the auto parts store are from China too. The one downside of ordering from China is that it can take months for the stuff to arrive so if you need that bulb tomorrow, fuggedaboutit. (Instead, order spares of all the bulbs on your car now, before you need them. You'll spend less on a complete set of multiple spares than you will at the auto parts store the first time you urgently need 1 bulb. There's a list of all the bulbs in the back of your owners manual. Keep the spares in your glove box and you'll know where to find them when you need them.). Anyway, I've noticed that since this whole coronavirus thing, the stuff I order on ebay arrives FASTER than usual. I don't know the explanation - empty space for air cargo vs. container ship?

    Me too. Not just China, also HK, Thailand, Malaysia and Kazakstan.

    eBay is the main source, but AliExpress is looking interesting too. Some Amazon sellers ship slowly from China too.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    I have a simple but nice volt-ohm-ammeter made in China back in the Mao days. It is rugged and well built and was probably intended for the military. I'd like to buy a bunch of them and give them out as gifts if I could find a source for them. My guess is that if it was intended for the government or important internal customers, it's probably well built.
  113. @Handled Pseudonymicaly
    This is the end for Bernie. My prediction is that Biden does better than Bernie, maybe not my much, but he does better. Even if Biden beats Bernie by 1% of the vote, the press will play it up. Cue the calls for unity, for the need to beat Trump above all else.

    Bernie, being a wimp, will go along. Bernie supporters will be pissed, but eventually hold their nose and vote for Biden, or stay home. Biden will lose and we get four more years of Trump.

    It all comes down to Texas. I have a hard time believing that endorsements from Buttkrieg, the Klobe, and Beta O’Rourke are going to swing Texas to Cotton-Brained Joe, but the mass media sure seems to think it’s happening. Maybe they can conjure it up out of sheer, mega-phonic will? Kinda doubt it though. Pretty sure Biden mania is Fake News (there just aren’t enough Black people in Texas, especially in light of Bernie’s edge among Hispanics).

  114. @Kronos

    Maybe going into the office is overblown? Are office workers working hard from home? Maybe the bright future where you can work from anywhere foretold during the Information Superhighway fad of 1993 is finally coming true?
     
    The struggle is real. I deal with boomer bosses who can’t use Microsoft Office proficiently and are an actual security risk. We can’t go fully “office-less” until they’re all phased out.

    https://youtu.be/pFBY4-YH9KA

    I was just reflecting on my real terror of white collar environments (inb4 “you would never qualify,” I have done IT, secretarial and educational work). In the past the money and in some cases security was so good a guy would be an idiot to have my attitide. The money stopped being a sure thing a while back (except for certain jobs), and now there’s the cultural thing and the Apple product keeping you there 24 hours a day. However, the very things I fear are probably somebody’s cup of tea. Besides boomer technological illiteracy, there are probably people embracing office life because it’s an office.

    • Replies: @Kronos

    Besides boomer technological illiteracy, there are probably people embracing office life because it’s an office.
     
    I can understand that part. Trying to work at home with kids running around is difficult. It’s sometimes nice having a place that’s separate from family life. But sometimes your babysitting a boss who’s 30 years older than you. I kid you not, he turned off his computer’s security system to access YouTube. The previous IT guy granted him Admin privileges and he turned the whole thing off to bypass the prohibited website list he demanded and imposed on everyone else. (I would’ve been surprised if the stuff he was looking for was work related...)

    Most of our “online security” meetings are tailored toward older people who are easy targets for phishing and social engineering type scams.

    https://youtu.be/1Br6dK5yZQk

  115. @Achmed E. Newman
    The stock market is not backed by anything real such as increasing real profits or dividends as back in the day. It is a Ponzi scheme backed by the FED. However, if that's the way to make money right now, or at least not lose it continuously via inflation and the artificially-low interest rates, why not?

    You've got to remember that it's just a game of psychology. When it started going up yesterday, people who were hoping and ready for this rise figured they'd better get in before it makes a full "correction" back up. Then the next people at noon time. Then lots more later in the day. It's just gambling but with slightly better odds than the one-armed bandits*.

    In China, people are doing REAL WORK, making stuff. Not all of that is as automated as it will be some day, so, no, the Chinamen better keep showing up if we want to find cheap sneakers made with 1-year glue on the shelves at Target.

    As for those hilarious WHO tweets, that's probably just the AA guy writing, who WHO had to find something constructive to do and likely doesn't know squat-all about diseases or microbiology. Remember, Steve, it's all WHO, WHOM these days.


    .

    * Which, BTW, don't even spit out change noisily anymore, just a slip of paper. That takes the last fun right out of it - may as well go to the gas station and scratch out some pieces of paper... FOR THE CHILDREN, of course ...

    [Slot machines], BTW, don’t even spit out change noisily anymore, just a slip of paper.

    Even worse, they don’t even have handles anymore. You just push a button.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I think I remember that too. Thanks.
  116. @MKP
    [Off-topic]

    Quietly huge ruling from the U.S. Supreme Court today - the Court rules that state governments ARE permitted to prosecute illegal immigrants for identity theft. This reverses a 2017 decision that said that illegal immigrants could not be prosecuted for identity theft by state governments (even if they were clearly violating a state law) because this was part and parcel of immigration enforcement, and pre-empted by federal authority. Pursuant to today's ruling, state governments CAN prosecute illegal immigrants for using false ID documents and SS numbers that are not theirs, if the state, in fact, has a law against it.

    Hard to overstate the importance. As you can probably guess, the use of fake documents or someone else's SSN pervades much of illegal immigrant life in the US. This is becoming more so every year, as employers, landlords, and car dealers increasingly refuse to deal with anyone who can't present an ID and SSN.

    Also puts liberal state governors and state legislatures in a bind. They want to be "welcoming to all, no person is illegal," etc. But now they'll be forced to really stand up and say "we won't stop anyone from fraudulently using YOUR Social Security number when applying for a job." A lot of vaguely woke but not-too-political voters would suddenly sit up and take issue with that.

    So, anyway, score one for Trump.

    Thanks for that good news, MKP, and that’s a good point in your 2nd-to-last paragraph.

  117. East coast polls should be closing in about 30 minutes so we should see the first states called for Joe Biden in about, oh, 32 minutes.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    In a serious country, would a person everyone knows full well is senile be a potential major party nominee?? The Rod had serious issues, but Biden is flat out senile, as in "not-allowed-out-of-the-fogey-farm" senile.
  118. @Jack D
    And I deal with Millennials who would rather watch a You Tube talking head for 25 minutes than spend 5 minutes reading the same information. Or OTOH type 20 text messages instead of making a 3 minute phone call.

    Bad analogy: in your example, the job is still getting done, and the person is young anyway. In his, the person has training and experience but is effectively abdicating a responsibility.

  119. @Anon
    The dumping stock market has caused a rally of Democrats to Biden. All those white upper-middle class liberals have just seen their retirement accounts tank--not because of Trump, but because of a virus nobody can control--and they're frightened that any further chaos might affect themselves financially. They want a candidate who will pour oil on troubled waters and soothe the stock market, not a radical who wants to upend the system like Bernie.

    Look at this way. If the candidates are Trump and Bernie, and the stock market is rock-bottom because of the virus, and the average voter's net worth has plunged massively, and Bernie want to unleash economic chaos in the name of socialism, and nobody knows how that's going to play out, the average voter--already scared of losing even more money in the name of a political experiment--is pushing the button for Trump. The market was doing great under Trump until the virus rattled investors.

    Liberals only talk about how generous they are with their money, but when it's really their money at risk, they'll run away from radicalism.

    Covid-19 also has played a part in making the DNC get tough with their candidates. They want a clear front-runner right now instead of chaos if most of their primary voters are too sick to get out and vote, and there are too many candidates to vote for. The Dems were looking at trouble anyway just because they had too much vote splitting.

    The Democrats have had their Pearl Harbor moment with Covid-19 and the tanking market. The party elders realize it's time to go to war and stop placating their stupid, spoiled, bratty little upper-middle white children, who are, after all, likely to survive Covid-19, and live long enough to see the stock market recover. Their elders, however, may be another story. They're already signaled they've had enough of Bloomberg trying to play the spoiler. It's Biden and nobody else. Bezos is going to be weeping into his protein powder when his chosen candidate tanks.

    Liberals only talk about how generous they are with their money, but when it’s really their money at risk, they’ll run away from radicalism.

    I’ve never really heard any “Liberals” speak about being generous with their money. I hear them talk about being generous with OUR money, if that’s what you mean.

    Good comment, though.

    Also LOL‘s to Mr. Tillman.

  120. @Jack D
    And I deal with Millennials who would rather watch a You Tube talking head for 25 minutes than spend 5 minutes reading the same information. Or OTOH type 20 text messages instead of making a 3 minute phone call.

    X’er here. I’m with you on the Millenials and texting. Now I like texting socially, but after about 2 work related texts from a guy out in the field, asking where to land the cable on Sheet 235, I just call them and clear it up in 30 seconds (and then wonder why they can’t read a damn schematic).

    When it’s time to get the print package and program together, I could easily work from home. When it comes to building the Dyno, you gotta be able to head out to the floor and handle things.

  121. @RichardTaylor
    I can't believe the Dems would nominate an obvious loser like Biden. Of course, Bernie may be a big loser too, but at least it would make the race dramatic. And I like the idea of liberal billionaires being afraid of a commie in office.

    It’s noteworthy that while Steyer dropped out, he hasn’t endorsed Biden, though he has tweeted warmly to Klobuchar and Buttigieg in the wake of both endorsing Biden. Expect that Bloomberg & Steyer are being told by Big Media to step back into the shadows and stop trying to conspicuously buy status & influence. It’s a bit too on the nose for Jewish Billionaires to be so explicit in grasping for power when they already have more power & influence per capita than any other group in the West.

  122. if Covid-19 is so dangerous, and the stumbling, bumbling Trump Republicans are morons who are gonna get everybody killed…then why are the Democrats having a nationwide primary today? aren’t they the smart ones? shouldn’t they just push the primaries back a few months to be safe?

    but they aren’t, because Democrat leaders don’t believe anything they’re saying about this stuff either. they know this is just hysteria, and they’re the ones mainly responsible for spreading the hysteria via their media control. it’s not the end of the world where millions of people are going to catch a disease and die, and Democrats won’t even take the extremely obvious precaution of moving back their primaries. their actions SHOW they don’t believe anything they’re saying about it. just like when they buy 10 million dollar houses right on the coast, after lecturing us for years that rising ocean levels are gonna kill us all.

    • Agree: Hail
  123. @Tiny Duck
    Actually Sanders does well with LAtinos and People of Color. HE will kick rearend in Califronia and Texas and New York the only states that matter becasue of their diversity. No matter who wins the democrats will win the general IF everybody is allowed to vote. The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55. Game over.


    Also, Why isnt the virus affecting Africa? Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?

    No wonder white girls are increasingly choosing to bear Children of Black Men.

    They only want the best!

    The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55.

    Even more remarkable: many of both groups are grandparents.

  124. @Travis
    I suspect you are correct. Biden will do better than expected today as the Democratic establishment is throwing all their weight behind Biden. Everything is now pointing to Biden winning the Democratic nomination. Warren stayed in the race because she takes votes away from Sanders, while all the others dropped out to support Biden.

    Warren stayed in the race because she takes votes away from Sanders, while all the others dropped out to support Biden.

    Sounds legit, unfortunately. I wonder what the inducement was? VP slot??

  125. Tonight is a big night for a couple of Steve’s long-term ideas, the Democrats Are the Black Party, etc. Biden has the blacks, the upper-middle class whites, and seems to be picking up the Never Trump Republicans. Sanders has the multiculturals (ie, not black or white), the lower-middle class, and underemployed young college graduates. Warren has the feminists, and doesn’t have a chair to sit in when the music stops.

  126. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lot
    Me too. Not just China, also HK, Thailand, Malaysia and Kazakstan.

    eBay is the main source, but AliExpress is looking interesting too. Some Amazon sellers ship slowly from China too.

    I have a simple but nice volt-ohm-ammeter made in China back in the Mao days. It is rugged and well built and was probably intended for the military. I’d like to buy a bunch of them and give them out as gifts if I could find a source for them. My guess is that if it was intended for the government or important internal customers, it’s probably well built.

    • Replies: @Lot
    If they exist they’re probably on ebay too. But Jack and I are talking about cheap new items. Actually, you could send a photo of an obscure product to a Chinese power seller and ask if they can find it at a used good store.
  127. Anonymous[427] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    East coast polls should be closing in about 30 minutes so we should see the first states called for Joe Biden in about, oh, 32 minutes.

    In a serious country, would a person everyone knows full well is senile be a potential major party nominee?? The Rod had serious issues, but Biden is flat out senile, as in “not-allowed-out-of-the-fogey-farm” senile.

  128. @Abe


    DON’T – attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire “Chinaman’s Lung”?

     

    That clamorous cauldron of clicking cacophony you are hearing right about now is ten thousand tiger cubs pounding out their 2028 college admissions essays, each complete with their own lachrymose retelling of how Haven Snubnose or Becky Goodhair cruelly asked if grandma cooks them batwing soup in the garage.

    Hey, you’re that guy from Lost in Space, right?

    Never even watched the show but I know that guy.

    PS: 2028??

  129. YEAH BABY, YEAH.
    But seriously, we cannot allow Bernie Sanders to get that one millllion dollars.
    https://postimg.cc/Yh7GtMS7

  130. @SafeNow
    Amy’s fits of rage (throwing things at staff) is VP-disqualifying, because as President, she would have the nuclear codes. I can’t think of a personality trait more incompatible with being President than having an anger-management problem.

    Spend time in our nation’s capital and you’ll meet lots of congressional staffers. The stories they tell will have you disqualifying all of Capitol Hill–that is, if you weren’t already so inclined.

  131. Anonymous[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    I predicted November 2016 that if the Democrats nominate a pale stale frail male, they know Trump is handily winning a second term. El Rushbo has finally embraced my ancient prophecy.

    Heart Attack Bernie will dominate super tues.

    Creepy quid pro Joe will stay in the race, hoping for a BJ Clinton-style comeback.

    Legitimate Injun, the only candidate endowed with scientifically-verified Diversity privilege, will drop out.

    Mini Mike will squander another $600 million on his hopeless vanity campaign.

    The fakestream media will pray to Evolution that corona-chan causes a recession -- which is the only way Trump loses.

    The virus will quash urban poc turnout. Trumpy as ever playin 5th D chess.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    Nah,

    Vote harvesting of "absentee" ballots will take care of that.
  132. @for-the-record
    OT: The Pritzger Architecture Prize (the "Nobel Prize of Architecture") has just been awarded to two female Irish architects (founders of Grafton Architects), among whose award-winning buildings is the University of Engineering and Technology Campus in Lima, Peru, crowned in 2016 by the Royal Institute of British Architects as "the best new building in the world":

    https://payload.cargocollective.com/1/4/159426/4366323/UTEC-Lima-Grafton-2506_670.jpg

    If you showed this to people and asked them to guess when it was built, they would say 1972.

    • Agree: keypusher
  133. @JimDandy
    Biden doesn't have a chance against Trump. Then again, if Barack Obama was his running mate? Yeah, he'd have a chance.

    In a very real sense (that is to say, on television) Obama is his running mate. Because Biden’s commercials are pretty much all Obama.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    He (Obama) could really emerge now as The Hero Who Saved the Dems and Took Down Trump, if he steps up and energetically champions Biden on the campaign trail. And people as serious as Tucker Carlson have expressed fears that Michelle could hop in the race.
    , @Mr. Anon

    In a very real sense (that is to say, on television) Obama is his running mate. Because Biden’s commercials are pretty much all Obama.
     
    It's nice that Joe Biden has found an IBF (Imaginary Black Friend).
  134. @AnotherDad

    Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration?
     
    Hey, maybe this would be a great time to turn off that nonsense?

    Trump could issue a ban gianormous public pow-wows, and urge people toward other safe recreational pursuits. A non-infected husband and wife enjoying each other's company ... zero risk!

    Hey, Dad;

    I suspect a lot of the athletic and other entertainments of the coming months will be rescheduled, played to empty houses for the viewers, or altogether canceled. The Chinese F1 Grand Prix, previously scheduled for mid-April, is already being “rescheduled”.

    I used to watch some college basketball (growing up on Tobacco Road it’s mandatory), but when the NCAA boycotted the Old North State for her “bathroom bill” I commenced a reciprocal one. They, having emerged victorious from their front of World War T, dropped their boycott, but mine abides. I can’t say that I miss watching any form of stick & ball contests, not to the point of it noticeably impacting my life…which leaves open wheel motor racing as my sole vice, and the people running those varied goat rodeos are seemingly as intent on driving me away as are the corporate eunuchs of the NFL. Oh, for the long lost days “when racing was dangerous and sex was safe”.

    Who knows what disruptions to the contraceptive supply chain, power outages, and the like might eventuate? Perhaps some good may come of this plague, maybe even a spike in the old stock total fertility rate.

  135. @The Wild Geese Howard
    I can't decide if that woman is a more worthy of the Darwin Award than snakebite man in Dublin.

    How do people like these feed themselves? Or put on pants in the morning?

    Poor woman! Well, at least her heart is in the right place.

    A pit bull’s belly.

  136. @Buck Ransom
    I think of it as the Kung Flu.

    I prefer the Kung Fu Grippe (apologies to Hasbro).

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    G.I. Joe with Kung Fu Grip (1970s) - Classic TV Commercial
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5vH9A8t9I
  137. @RichardTaylor
    I can't believe the Dems would nominate an obvious loser like Biden. Of course, Bernie may be a big loser too, but at least it would make the race dramatic. And I like the idea of liberal billionaires being afraid of a commie in office.

    If Biden were elected, wouldn’t he have to immediately be impeached based on the Ukrainian quid pro pro he brags about on tape? I guess that would be a good way for the DNC to get the president it really wants, whoever is his VP.

    Limbaugh occasionally has a perceptive insight. (Slightly edited)

    The Democrat Party expects to lose, they expect to lose the presidency. They don’t want Bernie Sanders to be the nominee because they don’t want that kind of shellacking. They think they’re gonna lose with Biden anyway. And if there’s some shock and Biden wins, there’s somebody that’s gonna actually be president besides him. But the point is that this is all about the Democrat establishment, including media people, protecting themselves against a Democrat electoral defeat.

    This is all about Chuck Todd and all the guys at ABC, NBC, CBS, and CNN keeping their jobs and keeping their credibility. It’s all about Donna Brazile keeping her job at the DNC or whatever her job is. It’s all about the Democrat establishment not being swept aside like the Republican establishment was swept aside when Trump won.

    The Democrats do not want that to happen to them. And if it means Joe Biden losing the presidency but they remain intact as the face, as the power structure of the Democrat Party, then that’s what will happen. And they fear, if Bernie Sanders gets the nomination, he’s gonna go down in a stinging defeat, and they don’t want to have to defend Bernie.

    They don’t want to have to be on the Bernie side because they don’t think Bernie and his madcap left-wing radicalism is helpful to them in their positions at the think tanks, at the networks, at the newspapers, you name it.

    • Thanks: ben tillman
  138. @Tiny Duck
    Actually Sanders does well with LAtinos and People of Color. HE will kick rearend in Califronia and Texas and New York the only states that matter becasue of their diversity. No matter who wins the democrats will win the general IF everybody is allowed to vote. The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55. Game over.


    Also, Why isnt the virus affecting Africa? Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?

    No wonder white girls are increasingly choosing to bear Children of Black Men.

    They only want the best!

    He doesn’t do well with black voters at all ( who by your definition are persons of color ) because he is Jewish, take it to the bank td.

  139. @Anonymous
    The virus will quash urban poc turnout. Trumpy as ever playin 5th D chess.

    Nah,

    Vote harvesting of “absentee” ballots will take care of that.

  140. @ScarletNumber

    [Slot machines], BTW, don’t even spit out change noisily anymore, just a slip of paper.
     
    Even worse, they don't even have handles anymore. You just push a button.

    I think I remember that too. Thanks.

  141. @anonymous
    What makes the WHO incompetent? Considering the perils faced you people should put aside repetitive criticism of PC rot for a moment. You can do that 99% of the time, but now is the time to focus on who is really screwing up.

    Washington, the federal bureaucracy, and local governments are messing this up. There are still direct flights from Milan to JFK today. Why is the Trump administration not grounding very high risk flights?

    There are an estimated several hundred cases spreading in Washington. We can't confirm because of lack of testing infrastructure. The CDC had a decent amount of time to prepare and at first produced defective tests delaying the roll out of mass testing.

    Why aren't schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad? Washington state has complete information clarity compared to what was known in the first week of January but act even more sluggishly than Wuhan bureaucrats.

    I am in Oregon and watching the situation in Seattle area; it does not inspire confidence. After 9 deaths and 100s of possible infections, they still don’t have enough test kits or supplies (same here in OR and also CA, NY). The state epidemiologists in both WA and OR are saying this virus has been around for at least 6 weeks (undetected) and 100s of infections are expected. They are finding infections in people in deep interior rural areas like Umatilla Indian Reservation and Wenatchee, WA where no one has a clue where China or Italy is on the globe. Just watched how China is tackling the problem with a military like precision (

    ). If this is what is needed to fight it, we have a big problem with our what appears to be a patchwork system.

    • Replies: @J.Ross
    Twitter thread claiming to be from a physical therapist who attempted to get tested:
    https://postimg.cc/PpdLmv62
  142. @Jimi
    Lots of work is going as in people typing, talking on phone and sitting in meetings.

    With telecommuting you'd figure out how little work you need to do to be productive.

    With telecommuting you’d figure out how little work you need to do to be productive.

    It’s also something that requires relatively high levels of employer trust (hopefully matched to high levels of employee honesty).

    Otherwise you get the “Bob” problem (‘talented’ programmer outsources his work to Chinkieland, and spends his days on Reddit and ICanHasCheezburger… the latter is so 2013).

    To be fair, “Bob” was
    ⓐ supposedly meat-present in the office; and
    ⓑ almost-certainly a fictional composite (just like Jesus). There are way too many details awry… e.g., “Bob” doing stupid shit that nobody would do IRL, like Fedexing an RSA keyfob to China instead of setting up a proxy. Even Michael Pascoe wasn’t fooled (and he’s a fuckwit), whereas CNN, the Guardian, El Reg, and a host of other fucktards swallowed the entire story and breathlessly regurgitated it like good little stenographers.

  143. Looks like I might win on PredictIt after all! I never sold my Biden shares I got for 25-30, even when they hit 8. Now at 65.

    American Samoa has the fattest AND smartest Democrats!

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    Midget Mike: whatta maroon.

    Tay-haas weed say here. Tay-haas... y-y-yor inna Cuban nayba hood
     
    https://twitter.com/heckyessica/status/1234894691205816320
  144. @JimDandy
    Because the Zionists ordered the MSM and the DNC to blackball her and thus she has no shot whatsoever of getting more than 5% of the vote anywhere.

    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa.

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    Well, she's Samoan, so.
    , @Hail

    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa
     
    Finally, some good news.

    This means they have to let her onto the next debate, unless they discover a new rule in the meantime to exclude her. ("Valid only in the continental United States. Does not apply to Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, or minor Pacific Island possessions.")

    , @Reg Cæsar

    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa.
     
    She's tied with William Weld!

    Sad, because she's the last sane (and non-senescent) one extant.
    , @ScarletNumber
    Slow down. She will probably end up with 2 because the other candidates besides her and Bloomberg aren't viable.
  145. @Anonymous
    I have a simple but nice volt-ohm-ammeter made in China back in the Mao days. It is rugged and well built and was probably intended for the military. I'd like to buy a bunch of them and give them out as gifts if I could find a source for them. My guess is that if it was intended for the government or important internal customers, it's probably well built.

    If they exist they’re probably on ebay too. But Jack and I are talking about cheap new items. Actually, you could send a photo of an obscure product to a Chinese power seller and ask if they can find it at a used good store.

    • Replies: @Jack D
    Something from back in the old days is going to be rare. If they were produced for the needs of the state, they probably didn't make that many of them, and the # that leaked into the market is even smaller.

    The kind of stuff that we are talking about is produced in vast quantities. Quality (and quality control) is not that good but when a light bulb sells for a dime (with free shipping from China - it seems impossible), how good does it have to be? I had some little Chinese halogen bulbs for a 12V cabinet light and maybe 5 of the 10 of them burned out after a few weeks, one after the other, but finally I came to a good one in the batch and that one has lasted for years now. I'm still way ahead of the game vs. spending $3 for one bulb in an American store (not counting my time in changing out all of the duds).
  146. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Anon
    The dumping stock market has caused a rally of Democrats to Biden. All those white upper-middle class liberals have just seen their retirement accounts tank--not because of Trump, but because of a virus nobody can control--and they're frightened that any further chaos might affect themselves financially. They want a candidate who will pour oil on troubled waters and soothe the stock market, not a radical who wants to upend the system like Bernie.

    Look at this way. If the candidates are Trump and Bernie, and the stock market is rock-bottom because of the virus, and the average voter's net worth has plunged massively, and Bernie want to unleash economic chaos in the name of socialism, and nobody knows how that's going to play out, the average voter--already scared of losing even more money in the name of a political experiment--is pushing the button for Trump. The market was doing great under Trump until the virus rattled investors.

    Liberals only talk about how generous they are with their money, but when it's really their money at risk, they'll run away from radicalism.

    Covid-19 also has played a part in making the DNC get tough with their candidates. They want a clear front-runner right now instead of chaos if most of their primary voters are too sick to get out and vote, and there are too many candidates to vote for. The Dems were looking at trouble anyway just because they had too much vote splitting.

    The Democrats have had their Pearl Harbor moment with Covid-19 and the tanking market. The party elders realize it's time to go to war and stop placating their stupid, spoiled, bratty little upper-middle white children, who are, after all, likely to survive Covid-19, and live long enough to see the stock market recover. Their elders, however, may be another story. They're already signaled they've had enough of Bloomberg trying to play the spoiler. It's Biden and nobody else. Bezos is going to be weeping into his protein powder when his chosen candidate tanks.

    Another important point is that who gets sick from Covid-19 during the primary voting season? Younger people get less sick than old people. That’s why the Democrats are suddenly desperate to kneecap Sanders. If the 50+ voters are all too sick to vote in the primary, and only the voters aged 49 and below show up, they’ll vote for Sanders instead of Biden. That’s why the Dem elites are suddenly piling on for Biden right now. They want Warren in the race to split the youth vote between Sanders and Warren, so Biden gets the bulk of the votes with the help of superdelegates.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    They want Warren in the race to split the youth vote between Sanders and Warren...
     
    Funny, but Liz Warren is the one lady whose hair we don't hear about. How real is it?

    It doesn't look 72.
  147. @J.Ross
    This has been my expectation as well.
    ------
    A Nepali (!) anon on 4chan posted a scientific paper which says that there is no curing or recovery from The Yellow Peril, it hides from the immune system among neurons: it stays in your spine forever like chicken pox.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.25728

    I’m about to board a plane so can’t check this, but it seems doubtful. Symptoms of viral infections are related to the cells they infect. Example: shingles patterns follow nerve pathways. Also, other Coronavirus infections like SARS and MERS didn’t live on. (On the other hand, how do these things keep living in bats?) i think it’s more likely that “reinfection” happens when the virus is still in the lung but not in the upper airways, where the lab swabs are taken–ie, the infection was really cleared even though the tesrs were (-)

    • Replies: @Jack D

    On the other hand, how do these things keep living in bats?
     
    Apparently, bats have sort of unique immune systems due to the filthy conditions that they live in (caves that are knee deep in shit). Rather than fighting off viruses their immune system sort of calls a truce with them. Otherwise they would exhaust themselves in eternal battle.
  148. @Lot
    If they exist they’re probably on ebay too. But Jack and I are talking about cheap new items. Actually, you could send a photo of an obscure product to a Chinese power seller and ask if they can find it at a used good store.

    Something from back in the old days is going to be rare. If they were produced for the needs of the state, they probably didn’t make that many of them, and the # that leaked into the market is even smaller.

    The kind of stuff that we are talking about is produced in vast quantities. Quality (and quality control) is not that good but when a light bulb sells for a dime (with free shipping from China – it seems impossible), how good does it have to be? I had some little Chinese halogen bulbs for a 12V cabinet light and maybe 5 of the 10 of them burned out after a few weeks, one after the other, but finally I came to a good one in the batch and that one has lasted for years now. I’m still way ahead of the game vs. spending $3 for one bulb in an American store (not counting my time in changing out all of the duds).

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    "How many Americans does it take to change the light bulbs?"

    - - Big, big joke going around in Chinese Q/A departments.

  149. Anonymous[367] • Disclaimer says:
    @J.Ross
    This has been my expectation as well.
    ------
    A Nepali (!) anon on 4chan posted a scientific paper which says that there is no curing or recovery from The Yellow Peril, it hides from the immune system among neurons: it stays in your spine forever like chicken pox.
    https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1002/jmv.25728

    Like Epstein-Barr?

  150. @Chrisnonymous
    I'm about to board a plane so can't check this, but it seems doubtful. Symptoms of viral infections are related to the cells they infect. Example: shingles patterns follow nerve pathways. Also, other Coronavirus infections like SARS and MERS didn't live on. (On the other hand, how do these things keep living in bats?) i think it's more likely that "reinfection" happens when the virus is still in the lung but not in the upper airways, where the lab swabs are taken--ie, the infection was really cleared even though the tesrs were (-)

    On the other hand, how do these things keep living in bats?

    Apparently, bats have sort of unique immune systems due to the filthy conditions that they live in (caves that are knee deep in shit). Rather than fighting off viruses their immune system sort of calls a truce with them. Otherwise they would exhaust themselves in eternal battle.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke

    Apparently, bats have sort of unique immune systems due to the filthy conditions that they live in (caves that are knee deep in shit). Rather than fighting off viruses their immune system sort of calls a truce with them. Otherwise they would exhaust themselves in eternal battle.
     
    Maybe that's why the Chinese eat bats - the same reason cannibals eat humans - to get their mana. Do you get a bat's immune system from consuming bat soup? Or do you just end up in critical care from a coronavirus infection?
  151. @J.Ross
    I was just reflecting on my real terror of white collar environments (inb4 "you would never qualify," I have done IT, secretarial and educational work). In the past the money and in some cases security was so good a guy would be an idiot to have my attitide. The money stopped being a sure thing a while back (except for certain jobs), and now there's the cultural thing and the Apple product keeping you there 24 hours a day. However, the very things I fear are probably somebody's cup of tea. Besides boomer technological illiteracy, there are probably people embracing office life because it's an office.

    Besides boomer technological illiteracy, there are probably people embracing office life because it’s an office.

    I can understand that part. Trying to work at home with kids running around is difficult. It’s sometimes nice having a place that’s separate from family life. But sometimes your babysitting a boss who’s 30 years older than you. I kid you not, he turned off his computer’s security system to access YouTube. The previous IT guy granted him Admin privileges and he turned the whole thing off to bypass the prohibited website list he demanded and imposed on everyone else. (I would’ve been surprised if the stuff he was looking for was work related…)

    Most of our “online security” meetings are tailored toward older people who are easy targets for phishing and social engineering type scams.

  152. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hippopotamusdrome
    OT:
    #PittieMommie


    A British woman who ran a shelter for stray dogs in Egypt
    ...
    She had also recently taken in a pit bull terrier to save it from being euthanized after it attacked someone
    ...
    admitted in a frustrated Facebook post...that she had failed to raise enough money for dog food.

    “So the dogs couldn’t be fed today,” she wrote

     

    You wont BELIEVE what happens next...

    https://i.pinimg.com/originals/08/5b/68/085b68a642e92fa81e0db070772ed1d4.jpg

    “So the dogs couldn’t be fed today,” she wrote”…well yes, they could. Why do so many air-heads wind up sheltering numerous animals? It is kind of sad…they love the dogs, but they do not come close to understanding them.

    People who are experienced breeding and raising dogs would never take this kind of risk.

    • Replies: @Anon
    Women do best, typically, when they have persons to care for. Otherwise dumb substitutions happen. That’s what makes women “of a certain age” (say forty plus) suited for assisting local charities (orphanages, old age homes). However, in our current cultures, such work is not fashionable, and they transfer the nurturing instinct to wild beasts. Men are silly too, but in a different way. We are social creatures, very “monkey see, monkey do”.
  153. anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:
    @SunBakedSuburb
    "But she's not a ridiculous pick for Biden as VP"

    It won't be Klobuchar. Valerie "Dr. Zira" Jarret declared today that Bernie or stumbling-mumbling Joe will have to choose a woman of color for a running mate. That means Stacey Abrams. The Beast. Joe won't even know he's been neutered. Heart-patient Bernie will cower when the Beast looms over him. The Black Lady Virus will reign supreme. Goodbye Earth.

    Absolutely. A Black VP will guarantee 92-95% of the Black vote.

    Maybe Kamala Harris?

  154. @Anon
    Another important point is that who gets sick from Covid-19 during the primary voting season? Younger people get less sick than old people. That's why the Democrats are suddenly desperate to kneecap Sanders. If the 50+ voters are all too sick to vote in the primary, and only the voters aged 49 and below show up, they'll vote for Sanders instead of Biden. That's why the Dem elites are suddenly piling on for Biden right now. They want Warren in the race to split the youth vote between Sanders and Warren, so Biden gets the bulk of the votes with the help of superdelegates.

    They want Warren in the race to split the youth vote between Sanders and Warren…

    Funny, but Liz Warren is the one lady whose hair we don’t hear about. How real is it?

    It doesn’t look 72.

  155. @anonymous
    What makes the WHO incompetent? Considering the perils faced you people should put aside repetitive criticism of PC rot for a moment. You can do that 99% of the time, but now is the time to focus on who is really screwing up.

    Washington, the federal bureaucracy, and local governments are messing this up. There are still direct flights from Milan to JFK today. Why is the Trump administration not grounding very high risk flights?

    There are an estimated several hundred cases spreading in Washington. We can't confirm because of lack of testing infrastructure. The CDC had a decent amount of time to prepare and at first produced defective tests delaying the roll out of mass testing.

    Why aren't schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad? Washington state has complete information clarity compared to what was known in the first week of January but act even more sluggishly than Wuhan bureaucrats.

    It seems like it’s worse than China. Chinese coronavirus cases were highly concentrated in Hubei, in the US we’ve already got two main outbreaks in CA and WA, with others on the way.

    • Replies: @Corn
    Chinese also weren’t shy about imposing travel bans and lockdowns. Alot of that probably wouldn’t fly here. I hope I’m wrong.
  156. @Lugash
    It seems like it's worse than China. Chinese coronavirus cases were highly concentrated in Hubei, in the US we've already got two main outbreaks in CA and WA, with others on the way.

    Chinese also weren’t shy about imposing travel bans and lockdowns. Alot of that probably wouldn’t fly here. I hope I’m wrong.

    • Replies: @Justvisiting

    Chinese also weren’t shy about imposing travel bans and lockdowns. Alot of that probably wouldn’t fly here. I hope I’m wrong.
     
    I think it will happen in the US and Western Europe, but not until the situation is totally out of control.

    Our political "leaders" are re-active, not pro-active.
  157. every primary the Democrats don’t move back or cancel shows they’re full of it.

    either the Democrat leadership is deliberately sending millions of their own voters out there every week to get exposed to a deadly virus that ‘should’ kill thousands and thousands of them, rendering them unable to vote against Trump in November…

    or they don’t believe a thing they’re saying about Covid-19, and it’s strictly about hurting Trump.

    most annoying for me is how sports events i actually care about are getting canceled because of the hysteria Democrats are spreading in their naked political pursuit.

  158. She and Buttigieg (and Beto, remember him?)

    Beto and Butto are now free to team up for the live-action Beavis and Butthead.

    • LOL: Bubba
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    I think I'll get a good blogpost out of that one, Reg! It'll somehow involve the Great Cornholio. Who might that be, in real life?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IEQIdxlasNU
  159. @Tiny Duck
    Actually Sanders does well with LAtinos and People of Color. HE will kick rearend in Califronia and Texas and New York the only states that matter becasue of their diversity. No matter who wins the democrats will win the general IF everybody is allowed to vote. The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55. Game over.


    Also, Why isnt the virus affecting Africa? Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?

    No wonder white girls are increasingly choosing to bear Children of Black Men.

    They only want the best!

    “Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?”

    Disease–as in “malaria”, a scourge in the antebellum south, particularly in Lowland South Carolina and similar such environs.

    Sho’ nuff– dat’s wha’ dey wuz all field hands, TD.

  160. This is actually kind of sick:
    A plebbitor claiming to be Bernie Sanders dropped by the BernieBot sub-plebbit tonight asking for one last donation.
    https://postimg.cc/Xpf8WdRY
    https://postimg.cc/zLcw7jg0

    • Replies: @Tusk
    I hate young people so much. Imagine spending $150 on some seasonal crap in a video game, but oh it's alright here take my money Mr Commie. I guess it's better that he didn't waste it on some female streamer or something else equally as ridiculous.
  161. @epebble
    I am in Oregon and watching the situation in Seattle area; it does not inspire confidence. After 9 deaths and 100s of possible infections, they still don't have enough test kits or supplies (same here in OR and also CA, NY). The state epidemiologists in both WA and OR are saying this virus has been around for at least 6 weeks (undetected) and 100s of infections are expected. They are finding infections in people in deep interior rural areas like Umatilla Indian Reservation and Wenatchee, WA where no one has a clue where China or Italy is on the globe. Just watched how China is tackling the problem with a military like precision ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Rrn7fmOn1o ). If this is what is needed to fight it, we have a big problem with our what appears to be a patchwork system.

    Twitter thread claiming to be from a physical therapist who attempted to get tested:
    https://postimg.cc/PpdLmv62

  162. @Jack D
    Something from back in the old days is going to be rare. If they were produced for the needs of the state, they probably didn't make that many of them, and the # that leaked into the market is even smaller.

    The kind of stuff that we are talking about is produced in vast quantities. Quality (and quality control) is not that good but when a light bulb sells for a dime (with free shipping from China - it seems impossible), how good does it have to be? I had some little Chinese halogen bulbs for a 12V cabinet light and maybe 5 of the 10 of them burned out after a few weeks, one after the other, but finally I came to a good one in the batch and that one has lasted for years now. I'm still way ahead of the game vs. spending $3 for one bulb in an American store (not counting my time in changing out all of the duds).

    “How many Americans does it take to change the light bulbs?”

    – – Big, big joke going around in Chinese Q/A departments.

  163. @Paleo Liberal
    The world is coming to an end.

    A man was treated for a highly poisonous snake bite. In Dublin.


    https://www.irishpost.com/news/dublin-man-falls-victim-first-recorded-venomous-snakebite-ireland-180658



    Those of you who have lived in Hawaii know that pet snakes are highly illegal in that state. Pity Ireland doesn't have the same laws.

    Poor St. Patrick is rolling over in his grave in Northern Ireland.

  164. Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration?

    It would be quite disastrous in terms in income for those sports, plus season ticket holders would be demanding refunds, not to mention that the atmosphere at the games would be completely killed.

    I guess they would not have to play the national anthem at football games, so that is something.

    Also it would be the thin end of the wedge, creating the expectation every flu season that public sports events will be cancelled for reasons of public health, plus think of all the planet-destroying energy and pollution that would be saved if everyone was mandated to stay home.

    • Replies: @prosa123
    This month's Arnold Classic bodybuilding and strength sports show in Ohio (wonder where it got that name ...) will be held without spectators except for the final round, all the preliminaries will be just competitors, judges, and officials. Its associated expo for fitness-related products will be cancelled completely.
  165. @Reg Cæsar

    She and Buttigieg (and Beto, remember him?)
     
    Beto and Butto are now free to team up for the live-action Beavis and Butthead.

    I think I’ll get a good blogpost out of that one, Reg! It’ll somehow involve the Great Cornholio. Who might that be, in real life?

  166. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Abe


    DON’T – attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire “Chinaman’s Lung”?

     

    That clamorous cauldron of clicking cacophony you are hearing right about now is ten thousand tiger cubs pounding out their 2028 college admissions essays, each complete with their own lachrymose retelling of how Haven Snubnose or Becky Goodhair cruelly asked if grandma cooks them batwing soup in the garage.

    Before you can say Ho, Lee or Phuc, an essay is already online:

    Jonathan Mok
    Yesterday at 8:45 AM ·

    The spread of coronavirus has resulted in panic across the world — with people debating as to the severity of the situation: is this a deadly virus that we should all be afraid of? Or is it just similar to the common flu? It is without doubt that the medical effects of the COVID-19 has taken the front stage in issues across the world (and rightfully so). However, when we have been focusing solely on the health effects of the coronavirus, we fail to see the social effects that has surfaced from the spread of this virus— where racism has found yet another excuse to rear its ugly head.

    Racist assaults in the past few weeks have been on the rise, with videos and stories of Asian people being targeted — be it verbally or physically.* Personally, I have had experienced several racist statements directed to me in the past weeks, some involving references to the coronavirus. However, stories and videos of racially-motivated assaults always seem like they would never happen to you. After all, people might be racist and might say things, but surely, they wouldn’t dare attack you, especially on one of the busiest streets in London?

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look at the man made the statement. He was still staring at me as he walked past and realised I was looking at him. He shouted ‘Don’t you dare look at me, you ____’ (I could not catch the last word because of the accent). Within 3 seconds, he was in my face, together with 3/4 other young men, and a young lady (all of whom seemed no older than 20 years old, but were all more than a head taller than me). I was shocked and angry because he directed a racist remark at me and had the audacity to shout at me like I had wronged him. All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch. By then, a few passers-by had stopped and one of them tried to reason with them that 4 on 1 was not fair. The attacker’s friend tried to swing a kick at me as I was explaining to the passer-by that I hadn’t done anything at all. I tried to react in self-defence but couldn’t do anything substantial because I was still recovering from a broken finger in my master hand. The guy who tried to kick me then said, ‘I don’t want your coronavirus in my country’, before swinging another sucker punch at me, which resulted in my face exploding with blood (from my nose), where the blood was splattered all across the pavement. Still in daze and shock, the group left promptly from the scene before the police arrived. Following the incident, I followed up with a visit to the A&E and I was told that I had suffered a few fractures in my face and might need to undergo reconstructive surgery to fix some of the bones.

    For those of you who know me, I hate being in the spotlight and I never liked writing posts on Facebook or any social media platform— I only see it as a platform to share memes and hopefully, bring some joy to my friends on social media. However, I felt that this incident highlighted an important issue that needed to be brought into the spotlight. I’ve studied in London for the past 2 years and every year, I am subjected to racist remarks (whether innocent or made with malice). To those people who told me that London isn’t racist, think again.

    I’ve always believed that racism was grounded in stupidity— that people who actually believed one’s ‘racial group’ or ‘nationality’ defines an individual must surely be so ignorant that they deserve my pity. Surely, an ethnic Chinese cannot be ‘British’ or a white-skinned person cannot be Chinese? What makes us ‘Chinese’, ‘Indian’, ‘Malay’ or some other race? Most of us have ancestors of different races. What should we make of a Singaporean who has an English father and a Chinese mother? Is she Chinese or English? What then, should we make of an individual with bloodlines tracing from many different places? How should we classify an individual who has ancestors hailing from Africa, China, England and Italy? Racists argue that people are a certain way because of their race. But how can this argument hold when we realise that race is such a malleable concept? I have believed for long that racism is grounded in stupidity, but I realise today that to say so, is not only being kind to racists, but also gives them an excuse.

    Racism is not stupidity — racism is hate. Racists constantly find excuses to expound their hatred— and in this current backdrop of the coronavirus, they’ve found yet another excuse. From refusing service to a Chinese-looking person to racially-motivated hate crimes, every single one of these acts are based on racism. People dismiss racism with statements such as ‘it’s not all of us — only a minority are racists and this does not reflect on a city/country’. While factually true, not only it does not change the fact that this is an ugly problem that has plagued humanity for a very long time, but also it belittles this problem we have. Racism has changed it form and shape through the years and it is once again rearing its ugly head in light of the COVID-19 crisis.

    People may ask me why did I not fight back? Or some might even say I shouldn’t even have turned when I heard the racist remark — but do any of these answer the question: why should anyone, simply because of the colour of their skin, be subjected to abuse, in any form, verbal or physical? Why should I keep quiet when someone makes a racist remark towards me?

    To the group of guys who saw fit to attack me because of my skin colour: here’s something for you— I stood up to you because I wasn’t afraid, I’ve faced far more intimidating characters in my life. And if you think ganging up on someone who is sizeably smaller than you makes you a big man — it doesn’t. It only makes every single one of you a coward who doesn’t have the balls to take someone on 1 on 1. Grow a pair.

    [To anyone who saw the incident on Monday night (24 Feb 2020) at Oxford Street (just opposite the Primark at Tottenham Court Road), or have any knowledge of or evidence to the incident, please contact me or the Met Police UK to provide evidence to identify the perpetrators!]

    [To the kind lady who helped videotape the incident and call the police, if you read this, please contact me I would like to have a copy of the video! Thank you!]

    *(See: https://edition.cnn.com/…/coronavirus-racist-at…/index.html…)

    Disclaimer update:
    – If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send. It would be ridiculous that the race or skin colour of my attackers should matter. Every single individual can be the subject of racism, and the converse holds true: every single individual can possibly be racist. I am not arguing against racism against Asians, I am merely highlighting that this time, Asians happen to be the target. I believe racism in any form is unacceptable. I’ve seen comments in my post that have made me truly upset, where people point fingers to certain races, be it to blame them for the attack or for the origin of the coronavirus. These comments, while some of them founded on well intentions, fail to see the message I am trying to send.

    – This post is intended to bring people together and not divide us based on arbitrary things such as skin colour. Comments demonising a group of a certain skin colour (white or black etc) completely defeats the purpose! Even a Chinese can be racist towards a Chinese, and while it is confusing, the point remains that the demonising of a certain assumed race of my attackers only serve to further the message of the racists. It only seeks to divide us even further and it is unfair towards the billions of white/black-skinned people who are defined by their individuality- who are so much more than their skin colour! Demonising a certain group of people because of their skin colour is racist in itself and its completely unacceptable.

    – Sure, attack me, say I deserve it, call me out for being fake news — it is your right to do so, and dialogue is important in today’s society. I appreciate people doubting the credibility of the post, some may intentionally try to hurt me, while others are merely suspicious. I do not blame you because I think it is absolutely necessary for us to be suspicious of everything we see on the Internet. This is my side of the story- I felt targeted because of my race, because of the words said to me, and if you doubt the veracity, I accept that it is your prerogative to do so.

    – However, PLEASE, do not use this post as a platform to continue to propagate racist tendencies- humanity has suffered enough. People of any skin colour can and have suffered racism at some point in our lives and the main point is to realise this is an issue, try to BE THE CHANGE, instead of contributing to racism.

    – On a lighter note, I am aware that the injury to my eye has caused much confusion. Just to clarify, the injury was to the right eye. One image was taken in the mirror and hence, the laterally inverted image. The image that seems so be much swollen was taken as a selfie– and the bruising only developed in the following day.

    – I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. And even those with unkind things to say, thank you for playing your role in spreading this message. It’s been over a week since the incident and the superficial injuries have healed considerably quickly (due to the regular placing of ice packs on my eye).

    – If you have reached here, thank you so much for reading till the end of this post. I just want to say I hope we can all work together to stamp out racism in this world (regardless of whom it is against) and build a better future!

    • Replies: @Hail

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look
     

    All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch.
     

    If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send
     
    Assuming anything close to this highly-suspect event happened, there is more than one way to interpret the "I deliberately did not include the race of my tormentors."
    , @Lockean Proviso
    Clearly the best way to allay xenophobic fears of coronavirus is to physically contact and spread the bodily fluids of those you suspect of having it.
    , @YetAnotherAnon
    Alas the Paper Of Record doesn't have a report, but as neither the Guardian nor Evening Standard are reporting the race of the attackers, I'm assuming they are black.

    OT but Angry Lesbian news from Greece.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/we-left-fearing-for-our-lives-doctors-set-upon-by-mob-in-lesbos


    A group of doctors who flew to Lesbos to volunteer at the island’s infamous Moria migrant camp have described how they were forced to flee after being set upon by a mob wielding nail-headed cudgels.

    The attack was the the latest in a series of violent incidents targeting international aid workers, amid an increasingly hostile climate which has prompted several NGOs to withdraw from the Mediterranean island.

    “We left fearing for our lives,” said Dr Victoria Bradley, an Irish GP who was among the medics. “It was very, very frightening.”

    Her voice still cracking from “fear and exhaustion,” Bradley described how the eight-car convoy she and fellow doctors were travelling in was surrounded by an angry mob as they left Moria, the reception facility where over 22,000 men, women and children are holed up in deplorable conditions.

    “When we finished the clinic we couldn’t take the main road because of blockades and so walked up through the olive groves where some cars came to collect us. Not long after, we were stopped by maybe 50 men with cudgels, large heavy sticks with nails in them. They smashed our windscreen and then one man, a huge man, literally thrust his foot through my [backseat] window and tried to kick my head,” said Bradley speaking from the airport in Mytilene, the island’s capital.

    Bradley had been due to stay on the island for a week, but after the incident on Sunday, the medics decided to withdraw en masse the next day.

    The violence has further exposed the explosive tensions on the island, long on the frontline of the refugee crisis – and now bracing for a potentially massive influx of asylum-seekers after Turkey’s abrupt decision to open its frontiers to “millions” of people hoping to reach Europe.

    NGOs have been increasingly blamed for facilitating the arrival of migrants on Lesbos. Volunteers’ vehicles have been smashed as suspicion has spread that aid organisations have actively encouraged migratory flows.

    On Tuesday authorities reported that an NGO-run warehouse, storing clothes and blankets, had gone up in flames on another Aegean island, Chios. The fire, whose cause remains unknown, broke out at 3.30am.

    Police claim to have caught NGO workers red-handed “communicating with traffickers” on the Turkish coast.
     

    Also OT, CNN vow to up their iSteve content generation.

    https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/cnn-style-beauty-editors-note/index.html


    Much has been done to break down the standards and norms that have marginalized so many people, but there's a lot more to do. We hope the new beauty section will become a platform for a variety of voices to share their own lived experiences. For the launch, Chinese American photographer Andrew Kung wrote about the desexualization of Asian American men, and the writer, activist and artist Alok V. Menon contributed a powerful story about their own experience of beauty as a visibly gender-nonconforming person.
     
    , @Anonymous
    COVID19 may be the straw that breaks the camel's back for the push against immigration reform. Which will be literally anudah Shoah, lol. Potok might have to pause his tables for a year or two.
  167. @Lot
    Looks like I might win on PredictIt after all! I never sold my Biden shares I got for 25-30, even when they hit 8. Now at 65.

    American Samoa has the fattest AND smartest Democrats!

    https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1235004332237455361

    Midget Mike: whatta maroon.

    Tay-haas weed say here. Tay-haas… y-y-yor inna Cuban nayba hood

  168. @Jack D

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President.
     
    Uh, he's not the President yet.

    Biden has to know that picking Hillary as his running mate is akin to signing his own death warrant. Biden is not that smart but he's not THAT dumb (I hope).

    Biden has to know that picking Hillary as his running mate is akin to signing his own death warrant.

    Rather in the same way that Julius Caesar regretted appointing Brutus as his VP.

    • Agree: Hibernian
    • LOL: Daniel Williams
  169. @Brutusale
    I prefer the Kung Fu Grippe (apologies to Hasbro).

    G.I. Joe with Kung Fu Grip (1970s) – Classic TV Commercial

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TjU948M0ARw
  170. Anonymous[117] • Disclaimer says:

    Maybe the bright future where you can work from anywhere foretold during the Information Superhighway fad of 1993 is finally coming true?

    All the firms contorted into salarying dead-weight HR-DIE managers must be wondering about this. On the other hand there’s the Silicon Valley shibboleth (famously endorsed by Marissa Mayer) that routine permission for people to work from home is slacking/unclubbable/morally suspect– Joshua Fluke talks about this from time to time on his YouTube channel, so I guess that nostrum is not going anywhere. Cf. the American college industry

  171. @Handled Pseudonymicaly
    This is the end for Bernie. My prediction is that Biden does better than Bernie, maybe not my much, but he does better. Even if Biden beats Bernie by 1% of the vote, the press will play it up. Cue the calls for unity, for the need to beat Trump above all else.

    Bernie, being a wimp, will go along. Bernie supporters will be pissed, but eventually hold their nose and vote for Biden, or stay home. Biden will lose and we get four more years of Trump.

    Good prediction.

    OT: Fat Albert on the loose in Indy!

    • Replies: @Polynikes
    That's quite the sketch. Apparently one place we haven't made technological advancements is in the area of suspect drawings.
  172. @vhrm
    i was hoping for Yang/Gabbard for a while.

    Nobody talks about her because her poll numbers are very low.

    Basically check https://fivethirtyeight.com for what's possible and what's likely in US elections nowadays.

    They're themselves media lefties, BUT they take their work seriously and know math and modeling (afaict anyway) and they care a lot more about predicting accurately, and communicating the strength of the predictions, than anything else. They actually discuss when they were right vs wrong and why... it's good stuff.

    Actually, her poll numbers are low because nobody talks about her–because she challenged our Zionist foreign policy, and was blackballed by the MSM and the DNC.

    She’s the dream candidate on paper. But she dared pretend America isn’t a vassal state.

    • Agree: Hail
  173. @J.Ross
    This is actually kind of sick:
    A plebbitor claiming to be Bernie Sanders dropped by the BernieBot sub-plebbit tonight asking for one last donation.
    https://postimg.cc/Xpf8WdRY
    https://postimg.cc/zLcw7jg0

    I hate young people so much. Imagine spending $150 on some seasonal crap in a video game, but oh it’s alright here take my money Mr Commie. I guess it’s better that he didn’t waste it on some female streamer or something else equally as ridiculous.

  174. @Justvisiting
    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa.

    Well, she’s Samoan, so.

    • Replies: @Hail
    To be precise, she is 5/16ths Samoan, 10/16ths NW European (primarily or wholly colonial-American and German, per paper-genealogy and corroborated by her 23andMe), 1/16th Other European.

    I have commented here before that Gabbard is really of "US Military Ethnicity." Maybe better expressed as "(fringe of the) US Empire Ethnicity." Several of the generations involved in the racial mixing that led to Tulsi Gabbard involved cases of local women who met single white men who were flung to the far corners of the early US empire by the military or comparable ventures:


    What’s most notable about Tulsi’s father is that he seems characteristic of what I have sometimes thought of as “the U.S. Military Ethnicity,” which one tends to come into contact with at the margins of the informal empire.

    I would define these people as lacking strong ties to a rooted ethnocultural nation/people, who owe their existence to U.S. military deployments (often, to soldiers’ pairings with local women). The U.S. military and the empire offer such people a coherent identity, instead of having to say/think “I am mixed [such] and [such].”

    Tulsi Gabbard’s father is the grandson of a U.S. sailor who married a Samoan while on shore leave after WWI, which is just one among several of the interracial unions in Tulsi’s dad’s background. I do think this partial, deep ‘military ethnicity’ paternal origin cannot but inform Tulsi’s personal identity [....] This could well explain her decision to join the U.S. military herself in the early 2000s, despite her essentially non-belligerent personality. She was embracing her roots.
     

    (Tulsi's reclusive husband is highly racially ambiguous, even moreso than Gabbard herself. If they have a child, it'll be racially indeterminate in the extreme. But, then, it's Hawaii...)

    (As an intellectual exercise, what is the ethnonationalist option for Gabbard? It would be to find another part-white, part-Islander man; new ethnicities can and do form this way, but it would need a few generations of stability.)

  175. @HammerJack
    In a very real sense (that is to say, on television) Obama is his running mate. Because Biden's commercials are pretty much all Obama.

    He (Obama) could really emerge now as The Hero Who Saved the Dems and Took Down Trump, if he steps up and energetically champions Biden on the campaign trail. And people as serious as Tucker Carlson have expressed fears that Michelle could hop in the race.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Good point about Barack. While I haven't seen Biden's commercials it's clear that the Obama Connection™ put him over the top. Negro voters (negroes generally, really) aren't known for their subtlety or appreciation of nuance. It doesn't really matter that Obama hasn't officially endorsed Biden. Teevee tells the negroes that Barack said all these nice things about Biden. Case closed.

    https://www.udiscovermusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Parliament-Mothership-Connection-album-cover-820.jpg

    If it rhyme, all tha time, it ain't no crime, it's sublime!

    (I typed in 'rhymes with' and Google returned 'snitch')
  176. @Lot
    Good prediction.

    OT: Fat Albert on the loose in Indy!

    https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1234900238634143744

    That’s quite the sketch. Apparently one place we haven’t made technological advancements is in the area of suspect drawings.

    • Replies: @anon
    Apparently one place we haven’t made technological advancements is in the area of suspect drawings.

    A police sketch artist once explained to me that standard computer facial files are never as varied as actual human faces, and that her department had tried and then abandoned a computer system. It wasn't as flexible as a real artist, nor as fast. No idea how long it takes for a police sketch artist to burn out and quit, but the fact that they must keep some stuffed animals around for certain of their witnesses is suggestive.
  177. James Comey has endorsed Biden.

    The prominence of Never-Trump Republicans in the media (on MSNBC in particular) and their aversion to Sanders has been really helpful to Biden.

  178. @Jack D

    On the other hand, how do these things keep living in bats?
     
    Apparently, bats have sort of unique immune systems due to the filthy conditions that they live in (caves that are knee deep in shit). Rather than fighting off viruses their immune system sort of calls a truce with them. Otherwise they would exhaust themselves in eternal battle.

    Apparently, bats have sort of unique immune systems due to the filthy conditions that they live in (caves that are knee deep in shit). Rather than fighting off viruses their immune system sort of calls a truce with them. Otherwise they would exhaust themselves in eternal battle.

    Maybe that’s why the Chinese eat bats – the same reason cannibals eat humans – to get their mana. Do you get a bat’s immune system from consuming bat soup? Or do you just end up in critical care from a coronavirus infection?

  179. How about people experiencing Covid-19? People experiencing death?

  180. @Justvisiting
    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa.

    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa

    Finally, some good news.

    This means they have to let her onto the next debate, unless they discover a new rule in the meantime to exclude her. (“Valid only in the continental United States. Does not apply to Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, or minor Pacific Island possessions.”)

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1235004508561903617
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1235014122712031232
    , @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1235337060342431746
  181. @Abe


    DON’T – attach locations or ethnicity to the disease, this is not a “Wuhan Virus”, “Chinese Virus” or “Asian Virus”.
     
    So, do we have to retire “Chinaman’s Lung”?

     

    That clamorous cauldron of clicking cacophony you are hearing right about now is ten thousand tiger cubs pounding out their 2028 college admissions essays, each complete with their own lachrymose retelling of how Haven Snubnose or Becky Goodhair cruelly asked if grandma cooks them batwing soup in the garage.

    Give this man (commenter Abe) an award.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar

    Give this man (commenter Abe) an award.


     

    https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/150814135354-shinzo-abe-2-super-tease.jpg
  182. @MEH 0910
    G.I. Joe with Kung Fu Grip (1970s) - Classic TV Commercial
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7g5vH9A8t9I

  183. @Hail
    Give this man (commenter Abe) an award.

    Give this man (commenter Abe) an award.

  184. @Justvisiting
    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa.

    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa.

    She’s tied with William Weld!

    Sad, because she’s the last sane (and non-senescent) one extant.

  185. @Bert
    Regarding stock market behavior, the efficient market hypothesis as advanced by academic economists is bunk; if it weren't, CANSLIM on individual stocks couldn't be so effective. But index-level price action can be said to exhibit a kind of efficiency. Do you recall those long ago twilight conversations among neighbors on the front lawn and the little kids chasing each other, running around and then returning to hide behind their mother before venturing away again. Index price action is like that: price runs back and forth adventurously exploring a level and then recoiling to find a refuge at an earlier level. Then it does the same with other levels. This looks chaotic but to the extent that precedence among the levels can be revealed there is orderly price action. Efficiency theoretically exists, but is hard to come by.

    The market isn’t efficient — its corrupt and prone to cronyist shennanigans and nonsense….which is why wealth inequality continues to get worse….on top of the fact “they” aka the top 1% are doing and have done for the past 25 odd years to our industrial base what they did to Russia in the 1990s until Putin slowed but probably didn’t totally stop the 1% looting of Russia’s corporate and industrial base.

    The Wall Street and finance type parasites do this here via Carl Icahn type corporate raids that destroy otherwise healthy companies, junk bond dumps like what Miliken or whatever his name is did back in the day and now the LBO takeovers of healthy companies like the grocery chain Winn Dixie that I used to work for — that’s now saddled with loads of unhealthy, unpayable debt and some private equity parasite is out there milking the company like a vampire as they slowly bleed them into nothingness. In my old home area before I moved they’ve shuttered 2 of the old Winn Dixie stores, leaving 3 left. There used to be I think like 12 in the 1990s….

    I dunno….anyway Bernie as I’ve said before CAN’T win. Wall Street and the various zillionaires simply put will not allow it. Theres just too much market and labor market chaos that comes with a Bernie win. People go to college for free, student loan debt is written off instead of paid back to the creditor parasites who benefit from the deflationary negative rate environment we’re in now where cash becomes valued more and thus debt becomes valued more….

    Imagine if the poor could go to college….that means they actually get to chase their dream careers again — whether that’s trade school or basketweaving 101. Screw flipping hamburgers at Wendy’s or stocking shelves at Walmart. Who needs that noise?

    That means wages and benefits go up because of an artificial shortage of labor….and Wall Street & corporate America simply put cannot have that.

    Even if Bernie slogs it out to the convention — there will be backdoor super delegate shennanigans that will make sure Biden has the nomination — and then he will lose to Trump. Probably in a landslide.

  186. OT: This may be the stupidest article about Trump ever. Wired claims that the election of Trump messed up the sex ratio of babies born in Ontario.

    https://www.wired.co.uk/article/trump-canada-baby-sex-ratio?fbclid=IwAR0ieTgvcUylkTwylrjW0xuCWeWJ6qZHuVQ80a2Ei3msklyIjBjGGkSPDf8

  187. Best tweet of the campaign:

    • Replies: @TheMediumIsTheMassage
    She really does look like one of those 60s Planet of the Apes masks #justiceforRoseanne
  188. @SunBakedSuburb
    "But she's not a ridiculous pick for Biden as VP"

    It won't be Klobuchar. Valerie "Dr. Zira" Jarret declared today that Bernie or stumbling-mumbling Joe will have to choose a woman of color for a running mate. That means Stacey Abrams. The Beast. Joe won't even know he's been neutered. Heart-patient Bernie will cower when the Beast looms over him. The Black Lady Virus will reign supreme. Goodbye Earth.

    ugh… now THAT’s a depressing proposition.

    Both Biden or Sanders could drop dead at any point. (i don’t mean this cruelly; just that they’re getting on in years)

    President Stacey Abrams would be like listening to a BLM rally every morning and a MeToo rally every night. let’s hope it doesn’t come to pass.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I don't think morbidly obese, DMV-worker Stacey Abrams can win a national elective office. She's too repulsive. The more electable POC is someone reasonably presentable like Kamala Harris.
  189. The United States and its Armed Forces no longer exist:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/americans-will-soon-see-more-us-military-members-turbans-beards-hijabs

    Americans could soon begin seeing the unusual sight of US military service members walking around in Islamic hijab and other religious garb like turbans.

    This after the United States Air Force dramatically changed its dress code policy last month to allow airmen to wear religious apparel so long as it presents an overall “professional and well-groomed appearance.”

    Folks, it’s over.

    • Replies: @epebble
    The story behind this story is interesting. It all started with the case of Goldman v. Weinberger, 475 U.S. 503 (1986) (a United States Supreme Court case in which S. Simcha Goldma, a Jewish Air Force officer, was denied the right to wear a yarmulke when in uniform on the grounds that the Free Exercise Clause applies less strictly to the military than to ordinary citizens). But then our cowardly Congress overruled the Supreme Court decision and passed it by attaching to the 1988 National Defense Authorization Act, and signed by (then senile) Reagan. It provides for a general rule that "a member of the armed forces may wear an item of religious apparel while wearing the uniform of the member's armed force."

    As is the usual case with laws, the 1988 Congress (and President) didn't think that allowing yarmulke's will eventually lead to hijabs and turbans.

    It is also the reason conservatives have to think carefully about "privatizing" education through vouchers and other state funding. Today they may want "values" based/quality education etc., but they can't do anything when it will turn into state funded madrasas.
    , @indocon
    Let's separate the turbans from the hijabs. Turban (Sikh) guys have done a pretty damn good job of fighting for their host countries, wherever they reside. Not being tied to her home country helps them adopt a host country easily. That's not the case with let's say a Muslim or Hindu who will always have allegiance to the home country.
    , @JMcG
    Naw it’s never been better. Didn’t you hear that a woman has just earned her green beret?
  190. Lot says:

    The California early results are not too bad for the right.

    A giant statewide school spending bond is going down. Scott Sherman, an actual conservative Republican, may advance to the 2nd round of the open SD mayor race, which was expected to be yet another Corporate Dem Jewess v Gay Mexican race.

    Bloomberg coming in 2nd in large parts of the state. Lots of GOP primary votes for Trump despite it not being competitive: 113,000 just in early votes just in San Diego.

    A stupid hotel tax increase might pass here, currently it is only down by 2%. Unfortunately “tax the tourists!” can be an effective argument.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Good news in the CA House primaries:

    1. In the exurban LA district that elected Katie Hill, the bisexual thrupple relationship, tatted up, naked selfie taking, pothead over a GOP incumbent, (1) the stronger GOP candidate is headed to the next round and (2) the GOP candidates combined for 55% of the vote, despite the fact the big race is for president and only competitive at the Dem side.

    Upshot: 80% chance the GOP retakes this US House seat (CA-25). Image search Katie Hill with safe mode off if you want to see who California elected in 2018, naked and hitting a bong! Or maybe don’t.

    2. Hilarious looking Giant Mexican Lesbian Georgette Gomez is advancing to the general against stacked young billionairess Sara Jacobs for a Dem v Dem rematch.

    3. Issa is Back, and will soon be my Congressman!

    4. As with Katie Hill’s district, a couple of Dem 2018 pickups in OC show higher GOP turnout. These are all places that elected GOP candidates for a long time, then dumped them after Trump and the House GOP INCREASED their income taxes.
  191. Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration?

    It looks like this has now happened for the Arnold Sports Festival scheduled for later this week.

    https://www.herald-dispatch.com/ap/ap_region/governor-most-of-arnold-sports-festival-to-be-athletes-only/article_28c87372-6e96-5cbd-8498-e9969cf78db8.html

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-8072127/Arnold-Schwarzeneggers-Sports-Festival-bans-spectators-cancels-expo-coronavirus-concerns.html

  192. @vhrm
    ugh... now THAT's a depressing proposition.

    Both Biden or Sanders could drop dead at any point. (i don't mean this cruelly; just that they're getting on in years)

    President Stacey Abrams would be like listening to a BLM rally every morning and a MeToo rally every night. let's hope it doesn't come to pass.

    I don’t think morbidly obese, DMV-worker Stacey Abrams can win a national elective office. She’s too repulsive. The more electable POC is someone reasonably presentable like Kamala Harris.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Kamala, who dated her married 60 year old boss when she was in her 20s, was rewarded with a no-show state job, has a dry barren womb, grew up in Canada, and has a ball-busting DMV supervisor personality?

    I don’t see it happening.
  193. Welcome to the Third World shithole USSA:

  194. @Justvisiting
    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa.

    Slow down. She will probably end up with 2 because the other candidates besides her and Bloomberg aren’t viable.

  195. anonymous[194] • Disclaimer says:

    Bernie would probably do a better job painting a chicken coop than Joe would do baking blintzes.

  196. Lot says:
    @Lot
    The California early results are not too bad for the right.

    A giant statewide school spending bond is going down. Scott Sherman, an actual conservative Republican, may advance to the 2nd round of the open SD mayor race, which was expected to be yet another Corporate Dem Jewess v Gay Mexican race.

    Bloomberg coming in 2nd in large parts of the state. Lots of GOP primary votes for Trump despite it not being competitive: 113,000 just in early votes just in San Diego.

    A stupid hotel tax increase might pass here, currently it is only down by 2%. Unfortunately “tax the tourists!” can be an effective argument.

    Good news in the CA House primaries:

    1. In the exurban LA district that elected Katie Hill, the bisexual thrupple relationship, tatted up, naked selfie taking, pothead over a GOP incumbent, (1) the stronger GOP candidate is headed to the next round and (2) the GOP candidates combined for 55% of the vote, despite the fact the big race is for president and only competitive at the Dem side.

    Upshot: 80% chance the GOP retakes this US House seat (CA-25). Image search Katie Hill with safe mode off if you want to see who California elected in 2018, naked and hitting a bong! Or maybe don’t.

    2. Hilarious looking Giant Mexican Lesbian Georgette Gomez is advancing to the general against stacked young billionairess Sara Jacobs for a Dem v Dem rematch.

    3. Issa is Back, and will soon be my Congressman!

    4. As with Katie Hill’s district, a couple of Dem 2018 pickups in OC show higher GOP turnout. These are all places that elected GOP candidates for a long time, then dumped them after Trump and the House GOP INCREASED their income taxes.

    • Replies: @indocon
    It's early in the countdown and have not looked at mail in ballots which favor democrats, but the numbers you listed are very encouraging, if Trump wins this year, we take back the house. Up north in CA 10, a quanetssential CA district in terms of demographics and income, long time incumbent rep Jeff Denham was defeated last year by a Silicon Valley planted kid Josh Harder, I see that he is trailing with <40% vote also.
  197. @anonymous
    What makes the WHO incompetent? Considering the perils faced you people should put aside repetitive criticism of PC rot for a moment. You can do that 99% of the time, but now is the time to focus on who is really screwing up.

    Washington, the federal bureaucracy, and local governments are messing this up. There are still direct flights from Milan to JFK today. Why is the Trump administration not grounding very high risk flights?

    There are an estimated several hundred cases spreading in Washington. We can't confirm because of lack of testing infrastructure. The CDC had a decent amount of time to prepare and at first produced defective tests delaying the roll out of mass testing.

    Why aren't schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad? Washington state has complete information clarity compared to what was known in the first week of January but act even more sluggishly than Wuhan bureaucrats.

    Why aren’t schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad?

    Because Racism, duh.

  198. OT – Crabs rotting in Chesapeake Bay:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/its-life-or-death-us-marylands-seafood-industry-brink-crisis-amid-h-2b-visa-program-cap

    “Blue crabs are an integral part of our state’s heritage and our economy,” said Secretary of Agriculture Joe Bartenfelder.

    Actual Marylanders………………….not so much.

  199. @Harry Baldwin
    I don't think morbidly obese, DMV-worker Stacey Abrams can win a national elective office. She's too repulsive. The more electable POC is someone reasonably presentable like Kamala Harris.

    Kamala, who dated her married 60 year old boss when she was in her 20s, was rewarded with a no-show state job, has a dry barren womb, grew up in Canada, and has a ball-busting DMV supervisor personality?

    I don’t see it happening.

    • Replies: @Lot
    Bloomberg WINS Marin County AND Napa County, home of Napa Valley wine country.

    Humboldt County, aka California Weed Country, Bernie wins 4-1 over Biden and 8-1 over Bloomie.

    Steve’s pick for LA’s DA, incumbent semi-conservative black lady Jackie Lacey, crushes her Soros SJW/BLM challenger.

    Yesterday her elderly husband chased BLM protesters off their lawn with a drawn pistol.
    , @vhrm
    neither of them have to "win" on looks or charm if they get in as VP.

    Then if Biden/Sanders is no longer fit to serve or if they start looking feeble when running for reelection...
    It could put them in.

    Biden himself is running on not much more "i was Obama's VP" and you've been hearing my name for years!

    (i don't really like Harris, but she's just powerhungry, not an ideologue (afaict).

    Abrams strikes me as an oppression true believer with axes to grind)

  200. @HammerJack
    In a very real sense (that is to say, on television) Obama is his running mate. Because Biden's commercials are pretty much all Obama.

    In a very real sense (that is to say, on television) Obama is his running mate. Because Biden’s commercials are pretty much all Obama.

    It’s nice that Joe Biden has found an IBF (Imaginary Black Friend).

  201. Well, that’s 2 straight LA County elections that I have been disenfranchised from voting in. 11/19 the Black lady in Hawthorne more or less threw my ballot away because I’m a 60+ White male and today a 2-3 hour line at 7:30pm outside the Hawthorne Public Library that I wasn’t gonna stand in because they probably would have deleted my vote because I’m a 60+ White male.

  202. Hail says: • Website
    @JimDandy
    Well, she's Samoan, so.

    To be precise, she is 5/16ths Samoan, 10/16ths NW European (primarily or wholly colonial-American and German, per paper-genealogy and corroborated by her 23andMe), 1/16th Other European.

    I have commented here before that Gabbard is really of “US Military Ethnicity.” Maybe better expressed as “(fringe of the) US Empire Ethnicity.” Several of the generations involved in the racial mixing that led to Tulsi Gabbard involved cases of local women who met single white men who were flung to the far corners of the early US empire by the military or comparable ventures:

    What’s most notable about Tulsi’s father is that he seems characteristic of what I have sometimes thought of as “the U.S. Military Ethnicity,” which one tends to come into contact with at the margins of the informal empire.

    I would define these people as lacking strong ties to a rooted ethnocultural nation/people, who owe their existence to U.S. military deployments (often, to soldiers’ pairings with local women). The U.S. military and the empire offer such people a coherent identity, instead of having to say/think “I am mixed [such] and [such].”

    Tulsi Gabbard’s father is the grandson of a U.S. sailor who married a Samoan while on shore leave after WWI, which is just one among several of the interracial unions in Tulsi’s dad’s background. I do think this partial, deep ‘military ethnicity’ paternal origin cannot but inform Tulsi’s personal identity [….] This could well explain her decision to join the U.S. military herself in the early 2000s, despite her essentially non-belligerent personality. She was embracing her roots.

    (Tulsi’s reclusive husband is highly racially ambiguous, even moreso than Gabbard herself. If they have a child, it’ll be racially indeterminate in the extreme. But, then, it’s Hawaii…)

    (As an intellectual exercise, what is the ethnonationalist option for Gabbard? It would be to find another part-white, part-Islander man; new ethnicities can and do form this way, but it would need a few generations of stability.)

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    I'm a fan of her. But she does play the "Woman of color" card sometimes, but it's always in the context of goading Liberals and Progressives. I don't know. As identity-politics victimhood currency becomes the coin of the realm--and the white man gets painted as the ultimate bogeyman who must be stopped at all costs--it becomes increasingly hard to support any politician who isn't white. As of right now, though, I'd choose her over all the other Dems in a heartbeat.
  203. So who’s winning? The American voting system is such a clusterfuck that I literally have no idea who might win until Presidential Election Night.

  204. • Replies: @Corn
    Trump should cancel all further rallies, and tweet it’s because of the Democrats’ biological warfare.
  205. @Anon
    Best tweet of the campaign:

    https://twitter.com/HolmesJosh/status/1234886613219659781

    She really does look like one of those 60s Planet of the Apes masks #justiceforRoseanne

  206. @Jonathan Mason

    Here’s a question: how big of a deal would it be to switch major sporting events — college basketball, NBA, NHL, and baseball — to Television Only for the duration?
     
    It would be quite disastrous in terms in income for those sports, plus season ticket holders would be demanding refunds, not to mention that the atmosphere at the games would be completely killed.

    I guess they would not have to play the national anthem at football games, so that is something.

    Also it would be the thin end of the wedge, creating the expectation every flu season that public sports events will be cancelled for reasons of public health, plus think of all the planet-destroying energy and pollution that would be saved if everyone was mandated to stay home.

    This month’s Arnold Classic bodybuilding and strength sports show in Ohio (wonder where it got that name …) will be held without spectators except for the final round, all the preliminaries will be just competitors, judges, and officials. Its associated expo for fitness-related products will be cancelled completely.

  207. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @Warner
    OT

    Is this the oldest and least familiar reference to the racism of "our culture" in the reference to Warner Oland in this article about the harm film characterizations and whitewashing of Asian maleness has done:

    https://www.cnn.com/style/article/andrew-kung-asian-american-men/index.html

    I noticed the expected Mickey Rooney reference, a film that was cast 60 years ago. But Warner Oland I assumed had to be a new starlet sending shockwaves through the industry with his outdated stereotypes of Asians in the current year.

    Turns out he DIED in 1938.

    Excuse, please. Honorable picture is required of famous detective from Honolulu Police Department.

    Also Number One Son, Key Luke.

    Stories date to the 1920’s. An East Asian protagonist / hero rather than antagonist was a welcome novelty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chan

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    My favorite part of the Charlie Chan movies was when the Black guy (Mantan Moreland) says in times of danger: "Feet don't fail me now!"

    Classic humor.
  208. @The Wild Geese Howard
    The United States and its Armed Forces no longer exist:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/americans-will-soon-see-more-us-military-members-turbans-beards-hijabs

    Americans could soon begin seeing the unusual sight of US military service members walking around in Islamic hijab and other religious garb like turbans.

    This after the United States Air Force dramatically changed its dress code policy last month to allow airmen to wear religious apparel so long as it presents an overall “professional and well-groomed appearance.”
     
    Folks, it's over.

    The story behind this story is interesting. It all started with the case of Goldman v. Weinberger, 475 U.S. 503 (1986) (a United States Supreme Court case in which S. Simcha Goldma, a Jewish Air Force officer, was denied the right to wear a yarmulke when in uniform on the grounds that the Free Exercise Clause applies less strictly to the military than to ordinary citizens). But then our cowardly Congress overruled the Supreme Court decision and passed it by attaching to the 1988 National Defense Authorization Act, and signed by (then senile) Reagan. It provides for a general rule that “a member of the armed forces may wear an item of religious apparel while wearing the uniform of the member’s armed force.”

    As is the usual case with laws, the 1988 Congress (and President) didn’t think that allowing yarmulke’s will eventually lead to hijabs and turbans.

    It is also the reason conservatives have to think carefully about “privatizing” education through vouchers and other state funding. Today they may want “values” based/quality education etc., but they can’t do anything when it will turn into state funded madrasas.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna
    Gredeetings Infidels! We are here to diversify you! Open Borders FTW!

    https://otb.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/sikh-doctor-dentist-570x379.jpg

    You know, a nation with Open Borders really doesn't need a Defense Department.

    Think of the savings! We can apply the funds to sex-reassignment surgeries.
  209. Hail says: • Website
    @anon
    Before you can say Ho, Lee or Phuc, an essay is already online:

    Jonathan Mok
    Yesterday at 8:45 AM ·

    The spread of coronavirus has resulted in panic across the world — with people debating as to the severity of the situation: is this a deadly virus that we should all be afraid of? Or is it just similar to the common flu? It is without doubt that the medical effects of the COVID-19 has taken the front stage in issues across the world (and rightfully so). However, when we have been focusing solely on the health effects of the coronavirus, we fail to see the social effects that has surfaced from the spread of this virus— where racism has found yet another excuse to rear its ugly head.

    Racist assaults in the past few weeks have been on the rise, with videos and stories of Asian people being targeted — be it verbally or physically.* Personally, I have had experienced several racist statements directed to me in the past weeks, some involving references to the coronavirus. However, stories and videos of racially-motivated assaults always seem like they would never happen to you. After all, people might be racist and might say things, but surely, they wouldn’t dare attack you, especially on one of the busiest streets in London?

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look at the man made the statement. He was still staring at me as he walked past and realised I was looking at him. He shouted ‘Don’t you dare look at me, you ____’ (I could not catch the last word because of the accent). Within 3 seconds, he was in my face, together with 3/4 other young men, and a young lady (all of whom seemed no older than 20 years old, but were all more than a head taller than me). I was shocked and angry because he directed a racist remark at me and had the audacity to shout at me like I had wronged him. All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch. By then, a few passers-by had stopped and one of them tried to reason with them that 4 on 1 was not fair. The attacker’s friend tried to swing a kick at me as I was explaining to the passer-by that I hadn’t done anything at all. I tried to react in self-defence but couldn’t do anything substantial because I was still recovering from a broken finger in my master hand. The guy who tried to kick me then said, ‘I don’t want your coronavirus in my country’, before swinging another sucker punch at me, which resulted in my face exploding with blood (from my nose), where the blood was splattered all across the pavement. Still in daze and shock, the group left promptly from the scene before the police arrived. Following the incident, I followed up with a visit to the A&E and I was told that I had suffered a few fractures in my face and might need to undergo reconstructive surgery to fix some of the bones.

    For those of you who know me, I hate being in the spotlight and I never liked writing posts on Facebook or any social media platform— I only see it as a platform to share memes and hopefully, bring some joy to my friends on social media. However, I felt that this incident highlighted an important issue that needed to be brought into the spotlight. I’ve studied in London for the past 2 years and every year, I am subjected to racist remarks (whether innocent or made with malice). To those people who told me that London isn’t racist, think again.

    I’ve always believed that racism was grounded in stupidity— that people who actually believed one’s ‘racial group’ or ‘nationality’ defines an individual must surely be so ignorant that they deserve my pity. Surely, an ethnic Chinese cannot be ‘British’ or a white-skinned person cannot be Chinese? What makes us ‘Chinese’, ‘Indian’, ‘Malay’ or some other race? Most of us have ancestors of different races. What should we make of a Singaporean who has an English father and a Chinese mother? Is she Chinese or English? What then, should we make of an individual with bloodlines tracing from many different places? How should we classify an individual who has ancestors hailing from Africa, China, England and Italy? Racists argue that people are a certain way because of their race. But how can this argument hold when we realise that race is such a malleable concept? I have believed for long that racism is grounded in stupidity, but I realise today that to say so, is not only being kind to racists, but also gives them an excuse.

    Racism is not stupidity — racism is hate. Racists constantly find excuses to expound their hatred— and in this current backdrop of the coronavirus, they’ve found yet another excuse. From refusing service to a Chinese-looking person to racially-motivated hate crimes, every single one of these acts are based on racism. People dismiss racism with statements such as ‘it’s not all of us — only a minority are racists and this does not reflect on a city/country’. While factually true, not only it does not change the fact that this is an ugly problem that has plagued humanity for a very long time, but also it belittles this problem we have. Racism has changed it form and shape through the years and it is once again rearing its ugly head in light of the COVID-19 crisis.

    People may ask me why did I not fight back? Or some might even say I shouldn’t even have turned when I heard the racist remark — but do any of these answer the question: why should anyone, simply because of the colour of their skin, be subjected to abuse, in any form, verbal or physical? Why should I keep quiet when someone makes a racist remark towards me?

    To the group of guys who saw fit to attack me because of my skin colour: here’s something for you— I stood up to you because I wasn’t afraid, I’ve faced far more intimidating characters in my life. And if you think ganging up on someone who is sizeably smaller than you makes you a big man — it doesn’t. It only makes every single one of you a coward who doesn’t have the balls to take someone on 1 on 1. Grow a pair.

    [To anyone who saw the incident on Monday night (24 Feb 2020) at Oxford Street (just opposite the Primark at Tottenham Court Road), or have any knowledge of or evidence to the incident, please contact me or the Met Police UK to provide evidence to identify the perpetrators!]

    [To the kind lady who helped videotape the incident and call the police, if you read this, please contact me I would like to have a copy of the video! Thank you!]

    *(See: https://edition.cnn.com/…/coronavirus-racist-at…/index.html…)

    Disclaimer update:
    - If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send. It would be ridiculous that the race or skin colour of my attackers should matter. Every single individual can be the subject of racism, and the converse holds true: every single individual can possibly be racist. I am not arguing against racism against Asians, I am merely highlighting that this time, Asians happen to be the target. I believe racism in any form is unacceptable. I've seen comments in my post that have made me truly upset, where people point fingers to certain races, be it to blame them for the attack or for the origin of the coronavirus. These comments, while some of them founded on well intentions, fail to see the message I am trying to send.

    - This post is intended to bring people together and not divide us based on arbitrary things such as skin colour. Comments demonising a group of a certain skin colour (white or black etc) completely defeats the purpose! Even a Chinese can be racist towards a Chinese, and while it is confusing, the point remains that the demonising of a certain assumed race of my attackers only serve to further the message of the racists. It only seeks to divide us even further and it is unfair towards the billions of white/black-skinned people who are defined by their individuality- who are so much more than their skin colour! Demonising a certain group of people because of their skin colour is racist in itself and its completely unacceptable.

    - Sure, attack me, say I deserve it, call me out for being fake news -- it is your right to do so, and dialogue is important in today's society. I appreciate people doubting the credibility of the post, some may intentionally try to hurt me, while others are merely suspicious. I do not blame you because I think it is absolutely necessary for us to be suspicious of everything we see on the Internet. This is my side of the story- I felt targeted because of my race, because of the words said to me, and if you doubt the veracity, I accept that it is your prerogative to do so.

    - However, PLEASE, do not use this post as a platform to continue to propagate racist tendencies- humanity has suffered enough. People of any skin colour can and have suffered racism at some point in our lives and the main point is to realise this is an issue, try to BE THE CHANGE, instead of contributing to racism.

    - On a lighter note, I am aware that the injury to my eye has caused much confusion. Just to clarify, the injury was to the right eye. One image was taken in the mirror and hence, the laterally inverted image. The image that seems so be much swollen was taken as a selfie-- and the bruising only developed in the following day.

    - I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. And even those with unkind things to say, thank you for playing your role in spreading this message. It's been over a week since the incident and the superficial injuries have healed considerably quickly (due to the regular placing of ice packs on my eye).

    - If you have reached here, thank you so much for reading till the end of this post. I just want to say I hope we can all work together to stamp out racism in this world (regardless of whom it is against) and build a better future!

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look

    All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch.

    If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send

    Assuming anything close to this highly-suspect event happened, there is more than one way to interpret the “I deliberately did not include the race of my tormentors.”

    • Replies: @vhrm
    yeah.. seems suspicious

    "oh look, a guy i hate because he and people like him have a highly infectious disease! Let's all go hit him with our fists and make fluids come out of him and all over us. That'll show him! "

    not that street thugs are smart, but still

    , @Harry Baldwin
    When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch.

    Shouldn't only the first hit be described as a sucker punch? A sucker punch is unexpected. After you're hit, you might expect a follow up.
  210. @Lot
    Good news in the CA House primaries:

    1. In the exurban LA district that elected Katie Hill, the bisexual thrupple relationship, tatted up, naked selfie taking, pothead over a GOP incumbent, (1) the stronger GOP candidate is headed to the next round and (2) the GOP candidates combined for 55% of the vote, despite the fact the big race is for president and only competitive at the Dem side.

    Upshot: 80% chance the GOP retakes this US House seat (CA-25). Image search Katie Hill with safe mode off if you want to see who California elected in 2018, naked and hitting a bong! Or maybe don’t.

    2. Hilarious looking Giant Mexican Lesbian Georgette Gomez is advancing to the general against stacked young billionairess Sara Jacobs for a Dem v Dem rematch.

    3. Issa is Back, and will soon be my Congressman!

    4. As with Katie Hill’s district, a couple of Dem 2018 pickups in OC show higher GOP turnout. These are all places that elected GOP candidates for a long time, then dumped them after Trump and the House GOP INCREASED their income taxes.

    It’s early in the countdown and have not looked at mail in ballots which favor democrats, but the numbers you listed are very encouraging, if Trump wins this year, we take back the house. Up north in CA 10, a quanetssential CA district in terms of demographics and income, long time incumbent rep Jeff Denham was defeated last year by a Silicon Valley planted kid Josh Harder, I see that he is trailing with <40% vote also.

  211. @The Wild Geese Howard
    The United States and its Armed Forces no longer exist:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/americans-will-soon-see-more-us-military-members-turbans-beards-hijabs

    Americans could soon begin seeing the unusual sight of US military service members walking around in Islamic hijab and other religious garb like turbans.

    This after the United States Air Force dramatically changed its dress code policy last month to allow airmen to wear religious apparel so long as it presents an overall “professional and well-groomed appearance.”
     
    Folks, it's over.

    Let’s separate the turbans from the hijabs. Turban (Sikh) guys have done a pretty damn good job of fighting for their host countries, wherever they reside. Not being tied to her home country helps them adopt a host country easily. That’s not the case with let’s say a Muslim or Hindu who will always have allegiance to the home country.

    • Disagree: The Wild Geese Howard
  212. Lot says:
    @Lot
    Kamala, who dated her married 60 year old boss when she was in her 20s, was rewarded with a no-show state job, has a dry barren womb, grew up in Canada, and has a ball-busting DMV supervisor personality?

    I don’t see it happening.

    Bloomberg WINS Marin County AND Napa County, home of Napa Valley wine country.

    Humboldt County, aka California Weed Country, Bernie wins 4-1 over Biden and 8-1 over Bloomie.

    Steve’s pick for LA’s DA, incumbent semi-conservative black lady Jackie Lacey, crushes her Soros SJW/BLM challenger.

    Yesterday her elderly husband chased BLM protesters off their lawn with a drawn pistol.

  213. @Lot
    Kamala, who dated her married 60 year old boss when she was in her 20s, was rewarded with a no-show state job, has a dry barren womb, grew up in Canada, and has a ball-busting DMV supervisor personality?

    I don’t see it happening.

    neither of them have to “win” on looks or charm if they get in as VP.

    Then if Biden/Sanders is no longer fit to serve or if they start looking feeble when running for reelection…
    It could put them in.

    Biden himself is running on not much more “i was Obama’s VP” and you’ve been hearing my name for years!

    (i don’t really like Harris, but she’s just powerhungry, not an ideologue (afaict).

    Abrams strikes me as an oppression true believer with axes to grind)

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    neither of them have to “win” on looks or charm if they get in as VP.

    We have no prior examples to judge by as no one as repulsive as Stacey Abrams has ever been the VP candidate. I think she's a bit much for most people.

  214. Anonymous[129] • Disclaimer says:

    Why aren’t schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad?

    This strange virus does not target children. Schools are not such a priority.

    Otherwise Wuhan is not Washington on so many levels. This virus attacks the lungs and frankly Wuhan China in winter was maybe the most favorable location on earth for maximum impact.

    Yes there was a catastrophe at the Washington critical care home. Very sad but not representative of the epidemic.

    Some Americans are going to get very sick but don’t expect a mass die off in the USA.

    Mass die off occurred in a very dense population of heavy smoking East Asians (unusual ACE2 cell receptor lung biology) living in the world’s worst air pollution along with poor medical hygiene conditions.

    • Replies: @Hail

    ACE2
     
    We're approaching one month (AFAIK) since this theory started to circulate.

    I've tried looking into, looking for serious research it. Found a few Chinese medical researchers publishing on the theory, some for and some against.

    From Western scholars, nothing.

    In the West perhaps we can say there are indirect allusions to the ACE2 hypothesis embedded in the "Don't discriminate against East Asians! Don't pass on racist fake news about COVID19!" type of PSAs we are sometimes blasted with.

    When will the ACE2 Truther Movement begin?

    , @Anon
    @ This strange virus does not target children.

    Let’s just hope the virus was not engineered to “not target children.” The idea of deliberate mass orphandom bring to mind the Janissaries and the child soldiers in Africa. This would be worse, pribably.
  215. Hail says: • Website
    @HammerJack
    Will Hillary be Biden’s running mate? Her predictit score is rising again. Would she settle for that or will Joe suddenly get coronavirus from all that hand shaking? He’s definitely old enough to die from it.

    The primary season is probably over now, with both Pete and Amy (and even Beto) throwing their support to the Establishment Candidate. How are the Bernie Bros going to like this happening all over again?

    Negroes have to be pretty stoked right about now. Just one win and their candidate is President. I always thought BRA was nonsense, a stand-in for JRA. But who knows? Corona may choose both the Dem candidate and the next president. CRA?

    Will Hillary be Biden’s running mate? Her predictit score is rising again

    PredictIt has been on a true roller coaster ride the past few days, which raises questions about its value as a data tool.

    This was it for Feb. 20, two weeks ago:

    From eight, suddenly now there are four (at above 1-cent buy-ins).

    The four still standing now are:

    – Tweetman,
    – Grandpa Simpson,
    – The Soviet Honeymooner, and
    – Zombie-Hillary.

    Back on Feb. 20, AnotherDad reacted to the PredictIt numbers by asking “Where’s Pence?”

    AnotherDad says:
    February 20, 2020 at 4:05 pm GMT • 100 Words

    Where’s Pence?

    Trump’s 73, turning 74 in a few months. Social security actuarial tables have chance of death for a year at 3%. Granted Trump seems like he’s in good health and he’ll have 1st class response … but there’s also assisination or “i’m tired of this bullshit, screw it.”

    Pence should clock in at a couple percent. He’s got to be a better pick than Hillary. (Hillary? Seriously? Who are these people?)

    A surprising development Tuesday evening is that Pence’s stock briefly jumped.

    As vote totals came in and affected perceived outcome probabilities and thus PredictIt numbers, people began buying Pence. He shot up to 2 cents. He’s back down to 1 cent as of this writing, but he was at 2-cents a while; people were buying. (Other: Bloomberg dropped to 1 cent quickly after first polls closed. Hillary went up to 3 cents. Bernie went down to 10 cents, and has lost still further ground as of this writing., but that may be panic-selling.)

    The situation about the middle of the 9pm hour EST, as I observed it (implied-probabilities to be elected president on Nov. 3, 2020, as I calculate them, reflecting immediate reaction by the market to Super Tuesday results):

    – 51% Trump
    – 33% Biden
    – 10% Bernie
    – 3% Hillary
    – 2% Mike Pence
    – 1% All Others

  216. anon[361] • Disclaimer says:
    @Polynikes
    That's quite the sketch. Apparently one place we haven't made technological advancements is in the area of suspect drawings.

    Apparently one place we haven’t made technological advancements is in the area of suspect drawings.

    A police sketch artist once explained to me that standard computer facial files are never as varied as actual human faces, and that her department had tried and then abandoned a computer system. It wasn’t as flexible as a real artist, nor as fast. No idea how long it takes for a police sketch artist to burn out and quit, but the fact that they must keep some stuffed animals around for certain of their witnesses is suggestive.

  217. @Hail

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look
     

    All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch.
     

    If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send
     
    Assuming anything close to this highly-suspect event happened, there is more than one way to interpret the "I deliberately did not include the race of my tormentors."

    yeah.. seems suspicious

    “oh look, a guy i hate because he and people like him have a highly infectious disease! Let’s all go hit him with our fists and make fluids come out of him and all over us. That’ll show him! ”

    not that street thugs are smart, but still

  218. @anon
    Before you can say Ho, Lee or Phuc, an essay is already online:

    Jonathan Mok
    Yesterday at 8:45 AM ·

    The spread of coronavirus has resulted in panic across the world — with people debating as to the severity of the situation: is this a deadly virus that we should all be afraid of? Or is it just similar to the common flu? It is without doubt that the medical effects of the COVID-19 has taken the front stage in issues across the world (and rightfully so). However, when we have been focusing solely on the health effects of the coronavirus, we fail to see the social effects that has surfaced from the spread of this virus— where racism has found yet another excuse to rear its ugly head.

    Racist assaults in the past few weeks have been on the rise, with videos and stories of Asian people being targeted — be it verbally or physically.* Personally, I have had experienced several racist statements directed to me in the past weeks, some involving references to the coronavirus. However, stories and videos of racially-motivated assaults always seem like they would never happen to you. After all, people might be racist and might say things, but surely, they wouldn’t dare attack you, especially on one of the busiest streets in London?

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look at the man made the statement. He was still staring at me as he walked past and realised I was looking at him. He shouted ‘Don’t you dare look at me, you ____’ (I could not catch the last word because of the accent). Within 3 seconds, he was in my face, together with 3/4 other young men, and a young lady (all of whom seemed no older than 20 years old, but were all more than a head taller than me). I was shocked and angry because he directed a racist remark at me and had the audacity to shout at me like I had wronged him. All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch. By then, a few passers-by had stopped and one of them tried to reason with them that 4 on 1 was not fair. The attacker’s friend tried to swing a kick at me as I was explaining to the passer-by that I hadn’t done anything at all. I tried to react in self-defence but couldn’t do anything substantial because I was still recovering from a broken finger in my master hand. The guy who tried to kick me then said, ‘I don’t want your coronavirus in my country’, before swinging another sucker punch at me, which resulted in my face exploding with blood (from my nose), where the blood was splattered all across the pavement. Still in daze and shock, the group left promptly from the scene before the police arrived. Following the incident, I followed up with a visit to the A&E and I was told that I had suffered a few fractures in my face and might need to undergo reconstructive surgery to fix some of the bones.

    For those of you who know me, I hate being in the spotlight and I never liked writing posts on Facebook or any social media platform— I only see it as a platform to share memes and hopefully, bring some joy to my friends on social media. However, I felt that this incident highlighted an important issue that needed to be brought into the spotlight. I’ve studied in London for the past 2 years and every year, I am subjected to racist remarks (whether innocent or made with malice). To those people who told me that London isn’t racist, think again.

    I’ve always believed that racism was grounded in stupidity— that people who actually believed one’s ‘racial group’ or ‘nationality’ defines an individual must surely be so ignorant that they deserve my pity. Surely, an ethnic Chinese cannot be ‘British’ or a white-skinned person cannot be Chinese? What makes us ‘Chinese’, ‘Indian’, ‘Malay’ or some other race? Most of us have ancestors of different races. What should we make of a Singaporean who has an English father and a Chinese mother? Is she Chinese or English? What then, should we make of an individual with bloodlines tracing from many different places? How should we classify an individual who has ancestors hailing from Africa, China, England and Italy? Racists argue that people are a certain way because of their race. But how can this argument hold when we realise that race is such a malleable concept? I have believed for long that racism is grounded in stupidity, but I realise today that to say so, is not only being kind to racists, but also gives them an excuse.

    Racism is not stupidity — racism is hate. Racists constantly find excuses to expound their hatred— and in this current backdrop of the coronavirus, they’ve found yet another excuse. From refusing service to a Chinese-looking person to racially-motivated hate crimes, every single one of these acts are based on racism. People dismiss racism with statements such as ‘it’s not all of us — only a minority are racists and this does not reflect on a city/country’. While factually true, not only it does not change the fact that this is an ugly problem that has plagued humanity for a very long time, but also it belittles this problem we have. Racism has changed it form and shape through the years and it is once again rearing its ugly head in light of the COVID-19 crisis.

    People may ask me why did I not fight back? Or some might even say I shouldn’t even have turned when I heard the racist remark — but do any of these answer the question: why should anyone, simply because of the colour of their skin, be subjected to abuse, in any form, verbal or physical? Why should I keep quiet when someone makes a racist remark towards me?

    To the group of guys who saw fit to attack me because of my skin colour: here’s something for you— I stood up to you because I wasn’t afraid, I’ve faced far more intimidating characters in my life. And if you think ganging up on someone who is sizeably smaller than you makes you a big man — it doesn’t. It only makes every single one of you a coward who doesn’t have the balls to take someone on 1 on 1. Grow a pair.

    [To anyone who saw the incident on Monday night (24 Feb 2020) at Oxford Street (just opposite the Primark at Tottenham Court Road), or have any knowledge of or evidence to the incident, please contact me or the Met Police UK to provide evidence to identify the perpetrators!]

    [To the kind lady who helped videotape the incident and call the police, if you read this, please contact me I would like to have a copy of the video! Thank you!]

    *(See: https://edition.cnn.com/…/coronavirus-racist-at…/index.html…)

    Disclaimer update:
    - If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send. It would be ridiculous that the race or skin colour of my attackers should matter. Every single individual can be the subject of racism, and the converse holds true: every single individual can possibly be racist. I am not arguing against racism against Asians, I am merely highlighting that this time, Asians happen to be the target. I believe racism in any form is unacceptable. I've seen comments in my post that have made me truly upset, where people point fingers to certain races, be it to blame them for the attack or for the origin of the coronavirus. These comments, while some of them founded on well intentions, fail to see the message I am trying to send.

    - This post is intended to bring people together and not divide us based on arbitrary things such as skin colour. Comments demonising a group of a certain skin colour (white or black etc) completely defeats the purpose! Even a Chinese can be racist towards a Chinese, and while it is confusing, the point remains that the demonising of a certain assumed race of my attackers only serve to further the message of the racists. It only seeks to divide us even further and it is unfair towards the billions of white/black-skinned people who are defined by their individuality- who are so much more than their skin colour! Demonising a certain group of people because of their skin colour is racist in itself and its completely unacceptable.

    - Sure, attack me, say I deserve it, call me out for being fake news -- it is your right to do so, and dialogue is important in today's society. I appreciate people doubting the credibility of the post, some may intentionally try to hurt me, while others are merely suspicious. I do not blame you because I think it is absolutely necessary for us to be suspicious of everything we see on the Internet. This is my side of the story- I felt targeted because of my race, because of the words said to me, and if you doubt the veracity, I accept that it is your prerogative to do so.

    - However, PLEASE, do not use this post as a platform to continue to propagate racist tendencies- humanity has suffered enough. People of any skin colour can and have suffered racism at some point in our lives and the main point is to realise this is an issue, try to BE THE CHANGE, instead of contributing to racism.

    - On a lighter note, I am aware that the injury to my eye has caused much confusion. Just to clarify, the injury was to the right eye. One image was taken in the mirror and hence, the laterally inverted image. The image that seems so be much swollen was taken as a selfie-- and the bruising only developed in the following day.

    - I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. And even those with unkind things to say, thank you for playing your role in spreading this message. It's been over a week since the incident and the superficial injuries have healed considerably quickly (due to the regular placing of ice packs on my eye).

    - If you have reached here, thank you so much for reading till the end of this post. I just want to say I hope we can all work together to stamp out racism in this world (regardless of whom it is against) and build a better future!

    Clearly the best way to allay xenophobic fears of coronavirus is to physically contact and spread the bodily fluids of those you suspect of having it.

    • Replies: @anon
    Also, with so much hype and fear mongering, some people on the edge may be pushed over. Fear (especially of the unknown) is a nasty bug. Obviously, none would have cared if the Asian person had, say, influenza or even measles or tuberculosis.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/coronavirus-racism-europe-covid-19
  219. Hail says: • Website
    @Anonymous
    Why aren’t schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad?

    This strange virus does not target children. Schools are not such a priority.

    Otherwise Wuhan is not Washington on so many levels. This virus attacks the lungs and frankly Wuhan China in winter was maybe the most favorable location on earth for maximum impact.

    Yes there was a catastrophe at the Washington critical care home. Very sad but not representative of the epidemic.

    Some Americans are going to get very sick but don't expect a mass die off in the USA.

    Mass die off occurred in a very dense population of heavy smoking East Asians (unusual ACE2 cell receptor lung biology) living in the world's worst air pollution along with poor medical hygiene conditions.

    ACE2

    We’re approaching one month (AFAIK) since this theory started to circulate.

    I’ve tried looking into, looking for serious research it. Found a few Chinese medical researchers publishing on the theory, some for and some against.

    From Western scholars, nothing.

    In the West perhaps we can say there are indirect allusions to the ACE2 hypothesis embedded in the “Don’t discriminate against East Asians! Don’t pass on racist fake news about COVID19!” type of PSAs we are sometimes blasted with.

    When will the ACE2 Truther Movement begin?

    • Replies: @Anon
    Unfortunately, it hasn't occurred to anyone until the last month or so that there needs to be more research on ACE 2 receptors. We still don't know anywhere near enough about the effect of viruses on them.

    ACE 2 (the enzyme that is aimed at the ACE 2 receptor), appears to be something that is necessary for your heart and kidney function. There are ACE 2 receptors in the heart and kidneys. My suspicion is that some patients experience a tag-team effect with 2 viruses, Covid-19 and a common respiratory virus. The common virus gives the patient some lung damage via pneumonia or bronchitis, and Covid-19 takes advantage of this opening to penetrate to the heart along the oxygenated blood path that is being sent from the lungs to the heart muscle. Once Covid-19 attacks the ACE 2 receptors in the heart, it may stop the heart from beating. This may be what we're seeing when people just collapse dead in the street. We know that people with heart conditions tend not to do well when they get Covid-19. This is only a theory, though.
  220. It’s early in the countdown and have not looked at mail in ballots which favor democrats, but the numbers you listed are very encouraging, if Trump wins this year, we take back the house. Up north in CA 10, a quanetssential CA district in terms of demographics and income, long time incumbent rep Jeff Denham was defeated last year by a Silicon Valley planted kid Josh Harder, I see that he is trailing with <40% vote also.

    I think a lot of this is going to depend on the top of the ticket for the Dems. My guess is they will do much better if it’s Biden than if it’s Bernie (and of course it’s much more likely to be Biden after tonight).

    This cycle is depending on personal beefs and timing issues more than any other. There’s still a lot of delegates to be won or lost and the next big issue is going to be the extent to which Bernie goes negative on Joe in the upcoming debates and ad buys.

    If he does, whatever he tries is likely to stick since there’s lots of material available and Joe is not remotely well spoken. For the Establishment Dems this is the worst-case scenario, because Joe will be taking damage in the primary that could hurt him in the general election. Otoh, if Bernie goes same ol same ol, Joe just waltzes into the nomination, whereas if he turns negative it could be Bernie’s.

    Also how motivated is Bloomberg going to be to continue funding Dem candidates, in particular will he hold a grudge against the party for humiliating him in his first debate?

    There’s quite a few twists in the tail yet, and this doesn’t even include the general.

    • Replies: @John Johnson
    I think a lot of this is going to depend on the top of the ticket for the Dems. My guess is they will do much better if it’s Biden than if it’s Bernie (and of course it’s much more likely to be Biden after tonight).

    I think they'd be better with Bernie.

    Biden really isn't offering anything other than being not Trump. He also isn't a moderate on guns or abortion.

    I just don't see independents caring enough to switch from Trump.

    Bernie understands that the health care system needs big changes and I could see him pulling independents and even some Republicans.

  221. What happened? Joe Biden went to Roscoe’s Chicken & Waffles, then to F.A.M.E., and then to Twin Towers and he still lost to that dirty Commie Bernie Sanders who combs his hair with a Balloon!

    • Replies: @Johnny789
    Biden needs to give it up before he embarrasses himself even more. D’s need to maneuver Gay Pete as the candidate knowing he’ll lose in 2020, but have a better chance in 2024 when half of the country has switched their birth sex.
  222. @Johnny789
    What happened? Joe Biden went to Roscoe’s Chicken & Waffles, then to F.A.M.E., and then to Twin Towers and he still lost to that dirty Commie Bernie Sanders who combs his hair with a Balloon!

    Biden needs to give it up before he embarrasses himself even more. D’s need to maneuver Gay Pete as the candidate knowing he’ll lose in 2020, but have a better chance in 2024 when half of the country has switched their birth sex.

  223. Anon[338] • Disclaimer says:
    @Hail

    ACE2
     
    We're approaching one month (AFAIK) since this theory started to circulate.

    I've tried looking into, looking for serious research it. Found a few Chinese medical researchers publishing on the theory, some for and some against.

    From Western scholars, nothing.

    In the West perhaps we can say there are indirect allusions to the ACE2 hypothesis embedded in the "Don't discriminate against East Asians! Don't pass on racist fake news about COVID19!" type of PSAs we are sometimes blasted with.

    When will the ACE2 Truther Movement begin?

    Unfortunately, it hasn’t occurred to anyone until the last month or so that there needs to be more research on ACE 2 receptors. We still don’t know anywhere near enough about the effect of viruses on them.

    ACE 2 (the enzyme that is aimed at the ACE 2 receptor), appears to be something that is necessary for your heart and kidney function. There are ACE 2 receptors in the heart and kidneys. My suspicion is that some patients experience a tag-team effect with 2 viruses, Covid-19 and a common respiratory virus. The common virus gives the patient some lung damage via pneumonia or bronchitis, and Covid-19 takes advantage of this opening to penetrate to the heart along the oxygenated blood path that is being sent from the lungs to the heart muscle. Once Covid-19 attacks the ACE 2 receptors in the heart, it may stop the heart from beating. This may be what we’re seeing when people just collapse dead in the street. We know that people with heart conditions tend not to do well when they get Covid-19. This is only a theory, though.

    • Replies: @Hail
    Some of the SNPs of ACE2 come in gene variants of A or G. (Others C or T.) I am now seeing someone with claimed expertise claim the GG genotype is most at risk from the Wuhan virus.

    40% of East Asians are GG
    but only 15% of White Europeans
    and only 5% of Black Africans

    From "Understanding COVID19," by Howard Wetsman MD (Feb 29, 2020)
  224. @Boethiuss

    It’s early in the countdown and have not looked at mail in ballots which favor democrats, but the numbers you listed are very encouraging, if Trump wins this year, we take back the house. Up north in CA 10, a quanetssential CA district in terms of demographics and income, long time incumbent rep Jeff Denham was defeated last year by a Silicon Valley planted kid Josh Harder, I see that he is trailing with <40% vote also.
     
    I think a lot of this is going to depend on the top of the ticket for the Dems. My guess is they will do much better if it's Biden than if it's Bernie (and of course it's much more likely to be Biden after tonight).

    This cycle is depending on personal beefs and timing issues more than any other. There's still a lot of delegates to be won or lost and the next big issue is going to be the extent to which Bernie goes negative on Joe in the upcoming debates and ad buys.

    If he does, whatever he tries is likely to stick since there's lots of material available and Joe is not remotely well spoken. For the Establishment Dems this is the worst-case scenario, because Joe will be taking damage in the primary that could hurt him in the general election. Otoh, if Bernie goes same ol same ol, Joe just waltzes into the nomination, whereas if he turns negative it could be Bernie's.

    Also how motivated is Bloomberg going to be to continue funding Dem candidates, in particular will he hold a grudge against the party for humiliating him in his first debate?

    There's quite a few twists in the tail yet, and this doesn't even include the general.

    I think a lot of this is going to depend on the top of the ticket for the Dems. My guess is they will do much better if it’s Biden than if it’s Bernie (and of course it’s much more likely to be Biden after tonight).

    I think they’d be better with Bernie.

    Biden really isn’t offering anything other than being not Trump. He also isn’t a moderate on guns or abortion.

    I just don’t see independents caring enough to switch from Trump.

    Bernie understands that the health care system needs big changes and I could see him pulling independents and even some Republicans.

    • Replies: @Boethiuss

    I think they’d be better with Bernie.

    Biden really isn’t offering anything other than being not Trump. He also isn’t a moderate on guns or abortion.

    I just don’t see independents caring enough to switch from Trump.

    Bernie understands that the health care system needs big changes and I could see him pulling independents and even some Republicans.
     
    There's a lot of balls up in the air right now. I suspect things are more fluid and more complicated than you're allowing for.

    Just a few things off the top of my head, Biden is someone the Establishment and the grass roots can unify behind. Maybe not being Trump is enough. If Joe does do poorly at the top of the ticket (and I think he might), the party being unified will be extra motivated to get what they can downticket and I think they'll do well there.

    Also, the Dems might not need independents to switch to them. Many or most of them could already be intending to vote Dem, and simply be reassured that the nominee isn't too woke or too radical. And guess what, Joe isn't.

    Specifically, Joe's problems (being too told, not too bright, not very coherent, no filter) only hurt Joe. But if I'm afraid of the US turning into Venezuela, I'm going to vote against Bernie and every other Democrat on the ballot.

    Finally, I think there's strongly underrated public opposition to radicalism in the literal sense, ie beyond political opposition to progressives. When things are, at least for the moment, going well, but the big-picture financial and cultural situation is still precarious (and that's where we are now for a lot of voters), that's when the voters are going to be least tolerant of mindless freelance disruption of any sort, especially relating to health care but also impeachment, taxes, education, fluctuations in equity or housing values or anything else.

    Strictly in terms of likelihood of election, at this point I'd rather be Trump than any Democrat running against him. But anybody who already wants to move past Trump isn't going to be afraid of putting Joe in the White House.
  225. @Hail

    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa
     
    Finally, some good news.

    This means they have to let her onto the next debate, unless they discover a new rule in the meantime to exclude her. ("Valid only in the continental United States. Does not apply to Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, or minor Pacific Island possessions.")

  226. @for-the-record
    OT: The Pritzger Architecture Prize (the "Nobel Prize of Architecture") has just been awarded to two female Irish architects (founders of Grafton Architects), among whose award-winning buildings is the University of Engineering and Technology Campus in Lima, Peru, crowned in 2016 by the Royal Institute of British Architects as "the best new building in the world":

    https://payload.cargocollective.com/1/4/159426/4366323/UTEC-Lima-Grafton-2506_670.jpg

    It is clearly time for the role of the Irish in construction to revert to the digging of footings.

    • LOL: JMcG
  227. • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    I don't want to waste my 10 free NYT articles. so I'd have to know if anything in the article is worth reading. The NYT's political analysis generally isn't.
  228. @anon
    Before you can say Ho, Lee or Phuc, an essay is already online:

    Jonathan Mok
    Yesterday at 8:45 AM ·

    The spread of coronavirus has resulted in panic across the world — with people debating as to the severity of the situation: is this a deadly virus that we should all be afraid of? Or is it just similar to the common flu? It is without doubt that the medical effects of the COVID-19 has taken the front stage in issues across the world (and rightfully so). However, when we have been focusing solely on the health effects of the coronavirus, we fail to see the social effects that has surfaced from the spread of this virus— where racism has found yet another excuse to rear its ugly head.

    Racist assaults in the past few weeks have been on the rise, with videos and stories of Asian people being targeted — be it verbally or physically.* Personally, I have had experienced several racist statements directed to me in the past weeks, some involving references to the coronavirus. However, stories and videos of racially-motivated assaults always seem like they would never happen to you. After all, people might be racist and might say things, but surely, they wouldn’t dare attack you, especially on one of the busiest streets in London?

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look at the man made the statement. He was still staring at me as he walked past and realised I was looking at him. He shouted ‘Don’t you dare look at me, you ____’ (I could not catch the last word because of the accent). Within 3 seconds, he was in my face, together with 3/4 other young men, and a young lady (all of whom seemed no older than 20 years old, but were all more than a head taller than me). I was shocked and angry because he directed a racist remark at me and had the audacity to shout at me like I had wronged him. All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch. By then, a few passers-by had stopped and one of them tried to reason with them that 4 on 1 was not fair. The attacker’s friend tried to swing a kick at me as I was explaining to the passer-by that I hadn’t done anything at all. I tried to react in self-defence but couldn’t do anything substantial because I was still recovering from a broken finger in my master hand. The guy who tried to kick me then said, ‘I don’t want your coronavirus in my country’, before swinging another sucker punch at me, which resulted in my face exploding with blood (from my nose), where the blood was splattered all across the pavement. Still in daze and shock, the group left promptly from the scene before the police arrived. Following the incident, I followed up with a visit to the A&E and I was told that I had suffered a few fractures in my face and might need to undergo reconstructive surgery to fix some of the bones.

    For those of you who know me, I hate being in the spotlight and I never liked writing posts on Facebook or any social media platform— I only see it as a platform to share memes and hopefully, bring some joy to my friends on social media. However, I felt that this incident highlighted an important issue that needed to be brought into the spotlight. I’ve studied in London for the past 2 years and every year, I am subjected to racist remarks (whether innocent or made with malice). To those people who told me that London isn’t racist, think again.

    I’ve always believed that racism was grounded in stupidity— that people who actually believed one’s ‘racial group’ or ‘nationality’ defines an individual must surely be so ignorant that they deserve my pity. Surely, an ethnic Chinese cannot be ‘British’ or a white-skinned person cannot be Chinese? What makes us ‘Chinese’, ‘Indian’, ‘Malay’ or some other race? Most of us have ancestors of different races. What should we make of a Singaporean who has an English father and a Chinese mother? Is she Chinese or English? What then, should we make of an individual with bloodlines tracing from many different places? How should we classify an individual who has ancestors hailing from Africa, China, England and Italy? Racists argue that people are a certain way because of their race. But how can this argument hold when we realise that race is such a malleable concept? I have believed for long that racism is grounded in stupidity, but I realise today that to say so, is not only being kind to racists, but also gives them an excuse.

    Racism is not stupidity — racism is hate. Racists constantly find excuses to expound their hatred— and in this current backdrop of the coronavirus, they’ve found yet another excuse. From refusing service to a Chinese-looking person to racially-motivated hate crimes, every single one of these acts are based on racism. People dismiss racism with statements such as ‘it’s not all of us — only a minority are racists and this does not reflect on a city/country’. While factually true, not only it does not change the fact that this is an ugly problem that has plagued humanity for a very long time, but also it belittles this problem we have. Racism has changed it form and shape through the years and it is once again rearing its ugly head in light of the COVID-19 crisis.

    People may ask me why did I not fight back? Or some might even say I shouldn’t even have turned when I heard the racist remark — but do any of these answer the question: why should anyone, simply because of the colour of their skin, be subjected to abuse, in any form, verbal or physical? Why should I keep quiet when someone makes a racist remark towards me?

    To the group of guys who saw fit to attack me because of my skin colour: here’s something for you— I stood up to you because I wasn’t afraid, I’ve faced far more intimidating characters in my life. And if you think ganging up on someone who is sizeably smaller than you makes you a big man — it doesn’t. It only makes every single one of you a coward who doesn’t have the balls to take someone on 1 on 1. Grow a pair.

    [To anyone who saw the incident on Monday night (24 Feb 2020) at Oxford Street (just opposite the Primark at Tottenham Court Road), or have any knowledge of or evidence to the incident, please contact me or the Met Police UK to provide evidence to identify the perpetrators!]

    [To the kind lady who helped videotape the incident and call the police, if you read this, please contact me I would like to have a copy of the video! Thank you!]

    *(See: https://edition.cnn.com/…/coronavirus-racist-at…/index.html…)

    Disclaimer update:
    - If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send. It would be ridiculous that the race or skin colour of my attackers should matter. Every single individual can be the subject of racism, and the converse holds true: every single individual can possibly be racist. I am not arguing against racism against Asians, I am merely highlighting that this time, Asians happen to be the target. I believe racism in any form is unacceptable. I've seen comments in my post that have made me truly upset, where people point fingers to certain races, be it to blame them for the attack or for the origin of the coronavirus. These comments, while some of them founded on well intentions, fail to see the message I am trying to send.

    - This post is intended to bring people together and not divide us based on arbitrary things such as skin colour. Comments demonising a group of a certain skin colour (white or black etc) completely defeats the purpose! Even a Chinese can be racist towards a Chinese, and while it is confusing, the point remains that the demonising of a certain assumed race of my attackers only serve to further the message of the racists. It only seeks to divide us even further and it is unfair towards the billions of white/black-skinned people who are defined by their individuality- who are so much more than their skin colour! Demonising a certain group of people because of their skin colour is racist in itself and its completely unacceptable.

    - Sure, attack me, say I deserve it, call me out for being fake news -- it is your right to do so, and dialogue is important in today's society. I appreciate people doubting the credibility of the post, some may intentionally try to hurt me, while others are merely suspicious. I do not blame you because I think it is absolutely necessary for us to be suspicious of everything we see on the Internet. This is my side of the story- I felt targeted because of my race, because of the words said to me, and if you doubt the veracity, I accept that it is your prerogative to do so.

    - However, PLEASE, do not use this post as a platform to continue to propagate racist tendencies- humanity has suffered enough. People of any skin colour can and have suffered racism at some point in our lives and the main point is to realise this is an issue, try to BE THE CHANGE, instead of contributing to racism.

    - On a lighter note, I am aware that the injury to my eye has caused much confusion. Just to clarify, the injury was to the right eye. One image was taken in the mirror and hence, the laterally inverted image. The image that seems so be much swollen was taken as a selfie-- and the bruising only developed in the following day.

    - I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. And even those with unkind things to say, thank you for playing your role in spreading this message. It's been over a week since the incident and the superficial injuries have healed considerably quickly (due to the regular placing of ice packs on my eye).

    - If you have reached here, thank you so much for reading till the end of this post. I just want to say I hope we can all work together to stamp out racism in this world (regardless of whom it is against) and build a better future!

    Alas the Paper Of Record doesn’t have a report, but as neither the Guardian nor Evening Standard are reporting the race of the attackers, I’m assuming they are black.

    OT but Angry Lesbian news from Greece.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/we-left-fearing-for-our-lives-doctors-set-upon-by-mob-in-lesbos

    A group of doctors who flew to Lesbos to volunteer at the island’s infamous Moria migrant camp have described how they were forced to flee after being set upon by a mob wielding nail-headed cudgels.

    The attack was the the latest in a series of violent incidents targeting international aid workers, amid an increasingly hostile climate which has prompted several NGOs to withdraw from the Mediterranean island.

    “We left fearing for our lives,” said Dr Victoria Bradley, an Irish GP who was among the medics. “It was very, very frightening.”

    Her voice still cracking from “fear and exhaustion,” Bradley described how the eight-car convoy she and fellow doctors were travelling in was surrounded by an angry mob as they left Moria, the reception facility where over 22,000 men, women and children are holed up in deplorable conditions.

    “When we finished the clinic we couldn’t take the main road because of blockades and so walked up through the olive groves where some cars came to collect us. Not long after, we were stopped by maybe 50 men with cudgels, large heavy sticks with nails in them. They smashed our windscreen and then one man, a huge man, literally thrust his foot through my [backseat] window and tried to kick my head,” said Bradley speaking from the airport in Mytilene, the island’s capital.

    Bradley had been due to stay on the island for a week, but after the incident on Sunday, the medics decided to withdraw en masse the next day.

    The violence has further exposed the explosive tensions on the island, long on the frontline of the refugee crisis – and now bracing for a potentially massive influx of asylum-seekers after Turkey’s abrupt decision to open its frontiers to “millions” of people hoping to reach Europe.

    NGOs have been increasingly blamed for facilitating the arrival of migrants on Lesbos. Volunteers’ vehicles have been smashed as suspicion has spread that aid organisations have actively encouraged migratory flows.

    On Tuesday authorities reported that an NGO-run warehouse, storing clothes and blankets, had gone up in flames on another Aegean island, Chios. The fire, whose cause remains unknown, broke out at 3.30am.

    Police claim to have caught NGO workers red-handed “communicating with traffickers” on the Turkish coast.

    Also OT, CNN vow to up their iSteve content generation.

    https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/cnn-style-beauty-editors-note/index.html

    Much has been done to break down the standards and norms that have marginalized so many people, but there’s a lot more to do. We hope the new beauty section will become a platform for a variety of voices to share their own lived experiences. For the launch, Chinese American photographer Andrew Kung wrote about the desexualization of Asian American men, and the writer, activist and artist Alok V. Menon contributed a powerful story about their own experience of beauty as a visibly gender-nonconforming person.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    I have been following this stuff closely. It's inspiring. It's beautiful the the way the Lesbians of Greece are beating up the pussies. (I could just eat them!)
  229. anon[200] • Disclaimer says:

    Covid-19 is like the flu until it isn’t like the flu.

    1. Both China and the ROW experience is that about 80% of cases are mild to moderate. This is like seasonal flu.

    2. The most serious 20% of cases of Covid-19 have a substantial fraction of cases requiring hospitalization and respiratory support. Per the CDC, this season to date (2019-2020) estimates 32,000,000 to 45,000,000 total cases and 310,000 to 560,000 hospitalizations. This is roughly 1 in 1,000 or .001 or 1/10%. This is nothing like Covid-19 where hospitalizations may be 10x or 100x higher.

    3. Per the CDC, 18,000 to 45,000 deaths for flu have occurred. 45,000/310,000 or the higher death estimate and the lower hospitalization estimate is around a 14% mortality rate. So, if you are one of the fraction of 1% of seasonal flu cases that are hospitalized, you are at serious risk of dying. Similar to (but still less severe than) to Covid-19. But the overall mortality rate for this year’s flu is .001x.14=.00014 or 14 per 100,000.

    4. The CDC estimated that the 2009 swine flu pandemic resulted in 60 million cases in the US. “From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases…” This was a new strain and in the course of a year, infected over 1/6 of the US population. Left unchecked, it is possible that Covid-19 could spread in a flu like manner.

    IMO, people that find the flu analogy reassuring are generally missing the the fact that so few US seasonal flu cases are serious enough to require hospitalization. Conversely, Covid-19’s severity was especially notable when Wohan’s health care system was over run.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    By April, Costco's hottest product will be Kirkland Exposed Immunity Nurses. The Kardashians will order a dozen nurses from Kirkland who are guaranteed already exposed and recovered.
    , @Steve Sailer
    Per the CDC, this season to date (2019-2020) estimates 32,000,000 to 45,000,000 total cases [of flu] and 310,000 to 560,000 hospitalizations. This is roughly 1 in 1,000

    Isn't that 1 in 100? Are the number of hospitalizations too high?

    , @Hernan Pizzaro del Blanco
    The novel Swine flu epidemic of 2009 killed 1200 children and was notable for mostly affecting Young people. 80% of the deaths from Swine flu were under the age of 50. This is the opposite of the typical Flu, which kills mostly elderly victims .

    Hopefully the Corona virus does not spread as fast as the Swine flu , which spread from a dozen victims in April to 24 million Americans by September 2009.
  230. @John Johnson
    I think a lot of this is going to depend on the top of the ticket for the Dems. My guess is they will do much better if it’s Biden than if it’s Bernie (and of course it’s much more likely to be Biden after tonight).

    I think they'd be better with Bernie.

    Biden really isn't offering anything other than being not Trump. He also isn't a moderate on guns or abortion.

    I just don't see independents caring enough to switch from Trump.

    Bernie understands that the health care system needs big changes and I could see him pulling independents and even some Republicans.

    I think they’d be better with Bernie.

    Biden really isn’t offering anything other than being not Trump. He also isn’t a moderate on guns or abortion.

    I just don’t see independents caring enough to switch from Trump.

    Bernie understands that the health care system needs big changes and I could see him pulling independents and even some Republicans.

    There’s a lot of balls up in the air right now. I suspect things are more fluid and more complicated than you’re allowing for.

    Just a few things off the top of my head, Biden is someone the Establishment and the grass roots can unify behind. Maybe not being Trump is enough. If Joe does do poorly at the top of the ticket (and I think he might), the party being unified will be extra motivated to get what they can downticket and I think they’ll do well there.

    Also, the Dems might not need independents to switch to them. Many or most of them could already be intending to vote Dem, and simply be reassured that the nominee isn’t too woke or too radical. And guess what, Joe isn’t.

    Specifically, Joe’s problems (being too told, not too bright, not very coherent, no filter) only hurt Joe. But if I’m afraid of the US turning into Venezuela, I’m going to vote against Bernie and every other Democrat on the ballot.

    Finally, I think there’s strongly underrated public opposition to radicalism in the literal sense, ie beyond political opposition to progressives. When things are, at least for the moment, going well, but the big-picture financial and cultural situation is still precarious (and that’s where we are now for a lot of voters), that’s when the voters are going to be least tolerant of mindless freelance disruption of any sort, especially relating to health care but also impeachment, taxes, education, fluctuations in equity or housing values or anything else.

    Strictly in terms of likelihood of election, at this point I’d rather be Trump than any Democrat running against him. But anybody who already wants to move past Trump isn’t going to be afraid of putting Joe in the White House.

  231. @anon
    Covid-19 is like the flu until it isn't like the flu.

    1. Both China and the ROW experience is that about 80% of cases are mild to moderate. This is like seasonal flu.

    2. The most serious 20% of cases of Covid-19 have a substantial fraction of cases requiring hospitalization and respiratory support. Per the CDC, this season to date (2019-2020) estimates 32,000,000 to 45,000,000 total cases and 310,000 to 560,000 hospitalizations. This is roughly 1 in 1,000 or .001 or 1/10%. This is nothing like Covid-19 where hospitalizations may be 10x or 100x higher.

    3. Per the CDC, 18,000 to 45,000 deaths for flu have occurred. 45,000/310,000 or the higher death estimate and the lower hospitalization estimate is around a 14% mortality rate. So, if you are one of the fraction of 1% of seasonal flu cases that are hospitalized, you are at serious risk of dying. Similar to (but still less severe than) to Covid-19. But the overall mortality rate for this year's flu is .001x.14=.00014 or 14 per 100,000.

    4. The CDC estimated that the 2009 swine flu pandemic resulted in 60 million cases in the US. "From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases..." This was a new strain and in the course of a year, infected over 1/6 of the US population. Left unchecked, it is possible that Covid-19 could spread in a flu like manner.

    IMO, people that find the flu analogy reassuring are generally missing the the fact that so few US seasonal flu cases are serious enough to require hospitalization. Conversely, Covid-19's severity was especially notable when Wohan's health care system was over run.

    By April, Costco’s hottest product will be Kirkland Exposed Immunity Nurses. The Kardashians will order a dozen nurses from Kirkland who are guaranteed already exposed and recovered.

  232. @anon
    Covid-19 is like the flu until it isn't like the flu.

    1. Both China and the ROW experience is that about 80% of cases are mild to moderate. This is like seasonal flu.

    2. The most serious 20% of cases of Covid-19 have a substantial fraction of cases requiring hospitalization and respiratory support. Per the CDC, this season to date (2019-2020) estimates 32,000,000 to 45,000,000 total cases and 310,000 to 560,000 hospitalizations. This is roughly 1 in 1,000 or .001 or 1/10%. This is nothing like Covid-19 where hospitalizations may be 10x or 100x higher.

    3. Per the CDC, 18,000 to 45,000 deaths for flu have occurred. 45,000/310,000 or the higher death estimate and the lower hospitalization estimate is around a 14% mortality rate. So, if you are one of the fraction of 1% of seasonal flu cases that are hospitalized, you are at serious risk of dying. Similar to (but still less severe than) to Covid-19. But the overall mortality rate for this year's flu is .001x.14=.00014 or 14 per 100,000.

    4. The CDC estimated that the 2009 swine flu pandemic resulted in 60 million cases in the US. "From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases..." This was a new strain and in the course of a year, infected over 1/6 of the US population. Left unchecked, it is possible that Covid-19 could spread in a flu like manner.

    IMO, people that find the flu analogy reassuring are generally missing the the fact that so few US seasonal flu cases are serious enough to require hospitalization. Conversely, Covid-19's severity was especially notable when Wohan's health care system was over run.

    Per the CDC, this season to date (2019-2020) estimates 32,000,000 to 45,000,000 total cases [of flu] and 310,000 to 560,000 hospitalizations. This is roughly 1 in 1,000

    Isn’t that 1 in 100? Are the number of hospitalizations too high?

    • Replies: @anon
    310,000 x 1000 = 310,000,000. So 1 in 1000

    What I am really trying to get at is why some people are forecasting the worse while others are shrugging it off using analogies to seasonal flu. Including reasonably to highly numerate people.

    It actually is like the seasonal flu severity for most of the distribution.

    Bad outcomes also skew older for Covid-19 then seasonal flu. The 2009 H1N1 saw "nearly one-third of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virus, likely from exposure to an older H1N1 virus earlier in their lives". Which produced only "12,469 deaths ". CDC

    Someone commented in the WSJ, 'isn't this like the global warming hoax?'. Since I don't believe in catastrophic AGW, not so much because the models are both much simpler and also based on centuries of epidemics.

    But these are not the sorts of things ordinary people are used to estimating. Seasonal flu has mortality rates 0f 14 per 100.000. Yet people throw around rates like 1% like it is nothing. 1% would be 1,000 per 100,000. 10 x the Baltimore homicide rate.

    The non linear frequency increases are also non intuitive. By the time you have common sense evidence of a serious problem, it is late.
    , @anon
    Whoops. Exactly. The figures are from CDC infographic.

    Maybe I'm over thinking it.
  233. Anonymous[582] • Disclaimer says:
    @DanHessinMaryland
    Steve, as you know, the our world is collectively unable to see the things that are most obvious. In the case of Coronavirus, we cannot seem to see the overwhelming evidence before our eyes that viral respiratory infection outbreaks and death are tied to the dryness of the air.

    Wuhan, China was cold and dry in January through mid February. Then in became warmer and very humid throughout Hubei province and things got much, much better.

    You can track what conditions were in Wuhan day by day. Or any city.

    https://www.wunderground.com/history/daily/cn/wuhan/ZHHH/date/2020-2-16

    The correlation between humidity and viral respiratory infection severity and mortality was clearly shown and explained last year by a team at Yale University Medical School:
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/31085641

    That study showed humidity is sharply protective AFTER viral infection!

    Now watch me tell the future:
    The next evidence will be from France and the Seattle, WA area. There are outbreaks in both areas, and yet humid air has now arrived. Both areas should see a dramatic reduction in new cases and deaths. Tokyo conditions will improve for the same reason.

    I have foretold the future! I have magic! Or else this is another, dramatic instance of humanity failing to see the obvious.

    Even in the case of a scientific solution universally available to everyone to stop a viral epidemic dead in its tracks (all you need is a pot of boiling water to humidify your home) humanity cannot see the blindingly obvious. People will not see the very thing that will save their lives from viral pandemic! Do share this, Steve, if you would please. Check my work yourself, if you would like. Milan, Italy had not a drop of rain during the entire month of February if chart is correct:
    https://www.wunderground.com/history/monthly/it/peschiera-borromeo/LIML/date/2020-2

    Have you ever been to Singapore? What a wonderful low humidity, cool environment there.

    Wuhan temps now are 13-15deg C or so. It’s not summer. The Chinese are acting like the hive of bug people that /pol/ refers to them as, to their credit. That is what has stopped the virus in China.

    As for comment#15, take a look at the graphs here and click on the logarithmic tab.

    https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

    The reason why logarithmic scales are nice is that exponentials look like straight lines enabling you to extrapolate easily. There is no abatement internationally, and in less than 2 weeks there will be more cases internationally than China has ever had. Enough of these countries will have inability to contain. Some muslims will see spreading as a holy duty. Most countries will be slow on the ball to stop spread on countries pre-emptively let alone spread via N third party countries. Good luck stopping this, it’s a chain reaction.

    https://mobile.twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1234921173236035585

    And the updated case fatality rate is 3.4%. It’s kind of a big deal.

    On the plus side is the potential to institute mandatory Korean-style 15min drive thru testing but at customs entry points at airports. Still, I suspect the genie is out of the bottle in a lot of ways already.

    • Agree: JMcG
  234. Anonymous[582] • Disclaimer says:
    @anon
    Before you can say Ho, Lee or Phuc, an essay is already online:

    Jonathan Mok
    Yesterday at 8:45 AM ·

    The spread of coronavirus has resulted in panic across the world — with people debating as to the severity of the situation: is this a deadly virus that we should all be afraid of? Or is it just similar to the common flu? It is without doubt that the medical effects of the COVID-19 has taken the front stage in issues across the world (and rightfully so). However, when we have been focusing solely on the health effects of the coronavirus, we fail to see the social effects that has surfaced from the spread of this virus— where racism has found yet another excuse to rear its ugly head.

    Racist assaults in the past few weeks have been on the rise, with videos and stories of Asian people being targeted — be it verbally or physically.* Personally, I have had experienced several racist statements directed to me in the past weeks, some involving references to the coronavirus. However, stories and videos of racially-motivated assaults always seem like they would never happen to you. After all, people might be racist and might say things, but surely, they wouldn’t dare attack you, especially on one of the busiest streets in London?

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look at the man made the statement. He was still staring at me as he walked past and realised I was looking at him. He shouted ‘Don’t you dare look at me, you ____’ (I could not catch the last word because of the accent). Within 3 seconds, he was in my face, together with 3/4 other young men, and a young lady (all of whom seemed no older than 20 years old, but were all more than a head taller than me). I was shocked and angry because he directed a racist remark at me and had the audacity to shout at me like I had wronged him. All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch. By then, a few passers-by had stopped and one of them tried to reason with them that 4 on 1 was not fair. The attacker’s friend tried to swing a kick at me as I was explaining to the passer-by that I hadn’t done anything at all. I tried to react in self-defence but couldn’t do anything substantial because I was still recovering from a broken finger in my master hand. The guy who tried to kick me then said, ‘I don’t want your coronavirus in my country’, before swinging another sucker punch at me, which resulted in my face exploding with blood (from my nose), where the blood was splattered all across the pavement. Still in daze and shock, the group left promptly from the scene before the police arrived. Following the incident, I followed up with a visit to the A&E and I was told that I had suffered a few fractures in my face and might need to undergo reconstructive surgery to fix some of the bones.

    For those of you who know me, I hate being in the spotlight and I never liked writing posts on Facebook or any social media platform— I only see it as a platform to share memes and hopefully, bring some joy to my friends on social media. However, I felt that this incident highlighted an important issue that needed to be brought into the spotlight. I’ve studied in London for the past 2 years and every year, I am subjected to racist remarks (whether innocent or made with malice). To those people who told me that London isn’t racist, think again.

    I’ve always believed that racism was grounded in stupidity— that people who actually believed one’s ‘racial group’ or ‘nationality’ defines an individual must surely be so ignorant that they deserve my pity. Surely, an ethnic Chinese cannot be ‘British’ or a white-skinned person cannot be Chinese? What makes us ‘Chinese’, ‘Indian’, ‘Malay’ or some other race? Most of us have ancestors of different races. What should we make of a Singaporean who has an English father and a Chinese mother? Is she Chinese or English? What then, should we make of an individual with bloodlines tracing from many different places? How should we classify an individual who has ancestors hailing from Africa, China, England and Italy? Racists argue that people are a certain way because of their race. But how can this argument hold when we realise that race is such a malleable concept? I have believed for long that racism is grounded in stupidity, but I realise today that to say so, is not only being kind to racists, but also gives them an excuse.

    Racism is not stupidity — racism is hate. Racists constantly find excuses to expound their hatred— and in this current backdrop of the coronavirus, they’ve found yet another excuse. From refusing service to a Chinese-looking person to racially-motivated hate crimes, every single one of these acts are based on racism. People dismiss racism with statements such as ‘it’s not all of us — only a minority are racists and this does not reflect on a city/country’. While factually true, not only it does not change the fact that this is an ugly problem that has plagued humanity for a very long time, but also it belittles this problem we have. Racism has changed it form and shape through the years and it is once again rearing its ugly head in light of the COVID-19 crisis.

    People may ask me why did I not fight back? Or some might even say I shouldn’t even have turned when I heard the racist remark — but do any of these answer the question: why should anyone, simply because of the colour of their skin, be subjected to abuse, in any form, verbal or physical? Why should I keep quiet when someone makes a racist remark towards me?

    To the group of guys who saw fit to attack me because of my skin colour: here’s something for you— I stood up to you because I wasn’t afraid, I’ve faced far more intimidating characters in my life. And if you think ganging up on someone who is sizeably smaller than you makes you a big man — it doesn’t. It only makes every single one of you a coward who doesn’t have the balls to take someone on 1 on 1. Grow a pair.

    [To anyone who saw the incident on Monday night (24 Feb 2020) at Oxford Street (just opposite the Primark at Tottenham Court Road), or have any knowledge of or evidence to the incident, please contact me or the Met Police UK to provide evidence to identify the perpetrators!]

    [To the kind lady who helped videotape the incident and call the police, if you read this, please contact me I would like to have a copy of the video! Thank you!]

    *(See: https://edition.cnn.com/…/coronavirus-racist-at…/index.html…)

    Disclaimer update:
    - If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send. It would be ridiculous that the race or skin colour of my attackers should matter. Every single individual can be the subject of racism, and the converse holds true: every single individual can possibly be racist. I am not arguing against racism against Asians, I am merely highlighting that this time, Asians happen to be the target. I believe racism in any form is unacceptable. I've seen comments in my post that have made me truly upset, where people point fingers to certain races, be it to blame them for the attack or for the origin of the coronavirus. These comments, while some of them founded on well intentions, fail to see the message I am trying to send.

    - This post is intended to bring people together and not divide us based on arbitrary things such as skin colour. Comments demonising a group of a certain skin colour (white or black etc) completely defeats the purpose! Even a Chinese can be racist towards a Chinese, and while it is confusing, the point remains that the demonising of a certain assumed race of my attackers only serve to further the message of the racists. It only seeks to divide us even further and it is unfair towards the billions of white/black-skinned people who are defined by their individuality- who are so much more than their skin colour! Demonising a certain group of people because of their skin colour is racist in itself and its completely unacceptable.

    - Sure, attack me, say I deserve it, call me out for being fake news -- it is your right to do so, and dialogue is important in today's society. I appreciate people doubting the credibility of the post, some may intentionally try to hurt me, while others are merely suspicious. I do not blame you because I think it is absolutely necessary for us to be suspicious of everything we see on the Internet. This is my side of the story- I felt targeted because of my race, because of the words said to me, and if you doubt the veracity, I accept that it is your prerogative to do so.

    - However, PLEASE, do not use this post as a platform to continue to propagate racist tendencies- humanity has suffered enough. People of any skin colour can and have suffered racism at some point in our lives and the main point is to realise this is an issue, try to BE THE CHANGE, instead of contributing to racism.

    - On a lighter note, I am aware that the injury to my eye has caused much confusion. Just to clarify, the injury was to the right eye. One image was taken in the mirror and hence, the laterally inverted image. The image that seems so be much swollen was taken as a selfie-- and the bruising only developed in the following day.

    - I would like to thank everyone for their kind words. And even those with unkind things to say, thank you for playing your role in spreading this message. It's been over a week since the incident and the superficial injuries have healed considerably quickly (due to the regular placing of ice packs on my eye).

    - If you have reached here, thank you so much for reading till the end of this post. I just want to say I hope we can all work together to stamp out racism in this world (regardless of whom it is against) and build a better future!

    COVID19 may be the straw that breaks the camel’s back for the push against immigration reform. Which will be literally anudah Shoah, lol. Potok might have to pause his tables for a year or two.

    • Replies: @Buck Ransom
    If Corona-chan really rolls up her sleeves, and if a lot of people die -- followed by supply chains breaking and stock markets tanking -- oh, what a populist reaction to Globalism there will be throughout the West.
    , @Lockean Proviso
    If Corona kills a lot more of the aged than the young, that leaves a younger, browner electorate voting to support more immigration.
  235. @davidgmillsatty
    Voted for Bernie in Memphis, TN today. The only candidate left standing who is not heavily funded by the members of the oligarchy. I like M4A and Student Debt wipe-out but not much more from Bernie. But I like nothing about Biden who is the only other contestant still standing.

    It is clear to me that the Dems really do not actually care about beating Trump as they proclaim. If they actually cared, they would use the electoral college to their advantage for once. How about a real constitutional strategy to keep Trump from getting 270 EC votes?

    At the convention they need to nominate two Democrats for President, but only put up one of them in each state, the one having the best chance beating Trump in that state. That is the best way to keep Trump from reaching 270 EC votes. Then the House of Representatives would pick the President from the three top EC vote getters. The senate would pick the VP from the top two. A number of Presidents were picked this way before the civil war.

    Most likely that would result in a Democratic President and a Republican VP. And we would return the country to a Parliamentary style of government where the governmental representatives pick the leaders of the country.

    But I really don't think the Dems care about beating Trump. He could very well win the EC even if he loses the popular vote by 5%.

    Most likely that would result in a Democratic President and a Republican VP. And we would return the country to a Parliamentary style of government where the governmental representatives pick the leaders of the country.

    Dave–not that it matters, cause this isn’t happening–but if you enjoy these sort of speculations you should reread the Constitution’s provisions for how the House votes for President. (Hint: it is not a majority vote of Representatives.)

  236. Don’t waste a crisis! Covid-19 is an opportunity for more Leftism:

    More than 450 mostly leftist academics and activists sent a letter to Vice President Mike Pence on Monday listing a series of demands for fighting the spread of the coronavirus in the United States, including ensuring “immigration enforcement-free zones so that immigration status does not prevent a person from seeking care.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/03/03/leftist-activists-to-pence-immigration-enforcement-free-zones-needed-to-fight-coronavirus/

  237. @The Wild Geese Howard
    Oh dear God:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/bernie-supporting-denver-councilwoman-encourages-people-infected-coronavirus-attend-maga

    "How the hell do these people get in this country?"

    Trump should cancel all further rallies, and tweet it’s because of the Democrats’ biological warfare.

    • Agree: Buck Ransom
  238. @Hail

    Last Monday, at roughly 9.15pm on Oxford Street in London, I walked past a group of young men, when I saw one of them look at me (just as he walked past me) and said something to me, which I could make out the word ‘coronavirus’. I was stunned and turned around to have a look
     

    All of a sudden, the first punch was swung at my face and took me by surprise. When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch.
     

    If anyone has noticed, I deliberately did not include the race of my attackers because it would be going against the very message I am trying to send
     
    Assuming anything close to this highly-suspect event happened, there is more than one way to interpret the "I deliberately did not include the race of my tormentors."

    When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch.

    Shouldn’t only the first hit be described as a sucker punch? A sucker punch is unexpected. After you’re hit, you might expect a follow up.

    • Replies: @Autochthon
    Here at iSteve, commenters have a proud history of not knowing what "sucker punch" actually means – maybe this guy is a reader....
  239. @vhrm
    neither of them have to "win" on looks or charm if they get in as VP.

    Then if Biden/Sanders is no longer fit to serve or if they start looking feeble when running for reelection...
    It could put them in.

    Biden himself is running on not much more "i was Obama's VP" and you've been hearing my name for years!

    (i don't really like Harris, but she's just powerhungry, not an ideologue (afaict).

    Abrams strikes me as an oppression true believer with axes to grind)

    neither of them have to “win” on looks or charm if they get in as VP.

    We have no prior examples to judge by as no one as repulsive as Stacey Abrams has ever been the VP candidate. I think she’s a bit much for most people.

  240. @MEH 0910
    https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1235080040431390720

    I don’t want to waste my 10 free NYT articles. so I’d have to know if anything in the article is worth reading. The NYT’s political analysis generally isn’t.

    • Replies: @MEH 0910
    You probably shouldn't use up a free article on it.

    Even at home in Massachusetts, she took just 9 percent of moderate voters, and lost across demographics that are crucial to winning the Democratic nomination.

    Despite working hard to sell herself to black voters — particularly black women — Ms. Warren never managed to draw away the Democratic Party’s most loyal voters from Mr. Biden. She won just 14 percent of black voters in Massachusetts. That was better than she did elsewhere — she won just 5 percent of black voters in Virginia, where they went for Mr. Biden by large margins.

    Ms. Warren won just 17 percent of men in Massachusetts. And she was wiped out among voters without a college degree: Only 15 percent backed her.

    Even among her strongest demographic group — white college-educated women — Ms. Warren had just 33 percent support, not nearly enough to offset her weakness with other groups.

     

    , @Joe Stalin
    Have you tried the Google Chrome browser's "Incognito" window to read the NYT articles?
  241. @Harry Baldwin
    I don't want to waste my 10 free NYT articles. so I'd have to know if anything in the article is worth reading. The NYT's political analysis generally isn't.

    You probably shouldn’t use up a free article on it.

    [MORE]

    Even at home in Massachusetts, she took just 9 percent of moderate voters, and lost across demographics that are crucial to winning the Democratic nomination.

    Despite working hard to sell herself to black voters — particularly black women — Ms. Warren never managed to draw away the Democratic Party’s most loyal voters from Mr. Biden. She won just 14 percent of black voters in Massachusetts. That was better than she did elsewhere — she won just 5 percent of black voters in Virginia, where they went for Mr. Biden by large margins.

    Ms. Warren won just 17 percent of men in Massachusetts. And she was wiped out among voters without a college degree: Only 15 percent backed her.

    Even among her strongest demographic group — white college-educated women — Ms. Warren had just 33 percent support, not nearly enough to offset her weakness with other groups.

    • Replies: @Mr McKenna

    Despite working hard to sell herself to black voters — particularly black women — Ms. Warren never managed to draw away the Democratic Party’s most loyal voters from Mr. Biden.
     
    She reminded too many blacks of the schoolmarm who gave them a 'B+' in English because they couldn't read or write a single sentence. Racist!
  242. @The Wild Geese Howard
    The United States and its Armed Forces no longer exist:

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/americans-will-soon-see-more-us-military-members-turbans-beards-hijabs

    Americans could soon begin seeing the unusual sight of US military service members walking around in Islamic hijab and other religious garb like turbans.

    This after the United States Air Force dramatically changed its dress code policy last month to allow airmen to wear religious apparel so long as it presents an overall “professional and well-groomed appearance.”
     
    Folks, it's over.

    Naw it’s never been better. Didn’t you hear that a woman has just earned her green beret?

  243. @Achmed E. Newman
    As an American, I don't have a Chinaman's chance of getting Corona ....

    .


    ...except in 12 -oz bottles.

    “BRITISHBRAINSIZE1325ccsnicker”
    But you wont stand a chinamans chance if you get aids bobo plague and dye from it, a chinaman not so much he he.do you wonder why no news of chinese dying from aids during the crisis you know now its the EDAR gene newman

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    It helps to not get boogered in the ass, EK. Spread the word.

    I do want to learn much more from you on important medical matters. How may I subscribe to your newsletter, Sir?
  244. Hail says: • Website
    @Anon
    Unfortunately, it hasn't occurred to anyone until the last month or so that there needs to be more research on ACE 2 receptors. We still don't know anywhere near enough about the effect of viruses on them.

    ACE 2 (the enzyme that is aimed at the ACE 2 receptor), appears to be something that is necessary for your heart and kidney function. There are ACE 2 receptors in the heart and kidneys. My suspicion is that some patients experience a tag-team effect with 2 viruses, Covid-19 and a common respiratory virus. The common virus gives the patient some lung damage via pneumonia or bronchitis, and Covid-19 takes advantage of this opening to penetrate to the heart along the oxygenated blood path that is being sent from the lungs to the heart muscle. Once Covid-19 attacks the ACE 2 receptors in the heart, it may stop the heart from beating. This may be what we're seeing when people just collapse dead in the street. We know that people with heart conditions tend not to do well when they get Covid-19. This is only a theory, though.

    Some of the SNPs of ACE2 come in gene variants of A or G. (Others C or T.) I am now seeing someone with claimed expertise claim the GG genotype is most at risk from the Wuhan virus.

    40% of East Asians are GG
    but only 15% of White Europeans
    and only 5% of Black Africans

    From “Understanding COVID19,” by Howard Wetsman MD (Feb 29, 2020)

  245. @allahu akbar
    "Efficiency theoretically exists, but is hard to come by."


    You don't have a clue what you're talking about.

    If you aren’t interested in the bread crumb trail, that’s cool.

  246. Anonymous[215] • Disclaimer says:

    Re ACE2 truther movement:

    There is a complete total hardcore lockdown embargo of ANY racial aspect of this contagion.

    If you’re a mainstream media photo editor and you put up an Asian face on any news story about infections outside of Asia then your ass is grass apparently.

    Discussion of East Asian diaspora causing the outbreaks globally will only percolate on the Internet’s deplorable media outlets like unz.com…

  247. @eastkekiisawhiteguy
    "BRITISHBRAINSIZE1325ccsnicker"
    But you wont stand a chinamans chance if you get aids bobo plague and dye from it, a chinaman not so much he he.do you wonder why no news of chinese dying from aids during the crisis you know now its the EDAR gene newman

    It helps to not get boogered in the ass, EK. Spread the word.

    I do want to learn much more from you on important medical matters. How may I subscribe to your newsletter, Sir?

  248. anon[225] • Disclaimer says:
    @Lockean Proviso
    Clearly the best way to allay xenophobic fears of coronavirus is to physically contact and spread the bodily fluids of those you suspect of having it.

    Also, with so much hype and fear mongering, some people on the edge may be pushed over. Fear (especially of the unknown) is a nasty bug. Obviously, none would have cared if the Asian person had, say, influenza or even measles or tuberculosis.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/meghara/coronavirus-racism-europe-covid-19

  249. @Harry Baldwin
    I don't want to waste my 10 free NYT articles. so I'd have to know if anything in the article is worth reading. The NYT's political analysis generally isn't.

    Have you tried the Google Chrome browser’s “Incognito” window to read the NYT articles?

  250. @anon
    Excuse, please. Honorable picture is required of famous detective from Honolulu Police Department.

    http://www.mysticgames.com/famouspeople/pictures/WarnerOland.jpg

    Also Number One Son, Key Luke.

    http://stevecotler.com/tales/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/keye-luke.jpg

    Stories date to the 1920's. An East Asian protagonist / hero rather than antagonist was a welcome novelty.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Chan

    My favorite part of the Charlie Chan movies was when the Black guy (Mantan Moreland) says in times of danger: “Feet don’t fail me now!”

    Classic humor.

  251. @Anonymous
    COVID19 may be the straw that breaks the camel's back for the push against immigration reform. Which will be literally anudah Shoah, lol. Potok might have to pause his tables for a year or two.

    If Corona-chan really rolls up her sleeves, and if a lot of people die — followed by supply chains breaking and stock markets tanking — oh, what a populist reaction to Globalism there will be throughout the West.

  252. @JimDandy
    He (Obama) could really emerge now as The Hero Who Saved the Dems and Took Down Trump, if he steps up and energetically champions Biden on the campaign trail. And people as serious as Tucker Carlson have expressed fears that Michelle could hop in the race.

    Good point about Barack. While I haven’t seen Biden’s commercials it’s clear that the Obama Connection™ put him over the top. Negro voters (negroes generally, really) aren’t known for their subtlety or appreciation of nuance. It doesn’t really matter that Obama hasn’t officially endorsed Biden. Teevee tells the negroes that Barack said all these nice things about Biden. Case closed.

    If it rhyme, all tha time, it ain’t no crime, it’s sublime!

    (I typed in ‘rhymes with’ and Google returned ‘snitch’)

    • Replies: @JimDandy
    Yeah, you're right. Have you seen Mike Judge's "Get on the Bus"? Check out episode 1, Season 2.
  253. @MEH 0910
    You probably shouldn't use up a free article on it.

    Even at home in Massachusetts, she took just 9 percent of moderate voters, and lost across demographics that are crucial to winning the Democratic nomination.

    Despite working hard to sell herself to black voters — particularly black women — Ms. Warren never managed to draw away the Democratic Party’s most loyal voters from Mr. Biden. She won just 14 percent of black voters in Massachusetts. That was better than she did elsewhere — she won just 5 percent of black voters in Virginia, where they went for Mr. Biden by large margins.

    Ms. Warren won just 17 percent of men in Massachusetts. And she was wiped out among voters without a college degree: Only 15 percent backed her.

    Even among her strongest demographic group — white college-educated women — Ms. Warren had just 33 percent support, not nearly enough to offset her weakness with other groups.

     

    Despite working hard to sell herself to black voters — particularly black women — Ms. Warren never managed to draw away the Democratic Party’s most loyal voters from Mr. Biden.

    She reminded too many blacks of the schoolmarm who gave them a ‘B+’ in English because they couldn’t read or write a single sentence. Racist!

  254. @epebble
    The story behind this story is interesting. It all started with the case of Goldman v. Weinberger, 475 U.S. 503 (1986) (a United States Supreme Court case in which S. Simcha Goldma, a Jewish Air Force officer, was denied the right to wear a yarmulke when in uniform on the grounds that the Free Exercise Clause applies less strictly to the military than to ordinary citizens). But then our cowardly Congress overruled the Supreme Court decision and passed it by attaching to the 1988 National Defense Authorization Act, and signed by (then senile) Reagan. It provides for a general rule that "a member of the armed forces may wear an item of religious apparel while wearing the uniform of the member's armed force."

    As is the usual case with laws, the 1988 Congress (and President) didn't think that allowing yarmulke's will eventually lead to hijabs and turbans.

    It is also the reason conservatives have to think carefully about "privatizing" education through vouchers and other state funding. Today they may want "values" based/quality education etc., but they can't do anything when it will turn into state funded madrasas.

    Gredeetings Infidels! We are here to diversify you! Open Borders FTW!

    You know, a nation with Open Borders really doesn’t need a Defense Department.

    Think of the savings! We can apply the funds to sex-reassignment surgeries.

    • Replies: @anon
    They are infidels too! (sikhs, not muslims). Better than the Homos, Trans, women and NAMS now losing to ragheads after burning trillions.
  255. @anon
    Covid-19 is like the flu until it isn't like the flu.

    1. Both China and the ROW experience is that about 80% of cases are mild to moderate. This is like seasonal flu.

    2. The most serious 20% of cases of Covid-19 have a substantial fraction of cases requiring hospitalization and respiratory support. Per the CDC, this season to date (2019-2020) estimates 32,000,000 to 45,000,000 total cases and 310,000 to 560,000 hospitalizations. This is roughly 1 in 1,000 or .001 or 1/10%. This is nothing like Covid-19 where hospitalizations may be 10x or 100x higher.

    3. Per the CDC, 18,000 to 45,000 deaths for flu have occurred. 45,000/310,000 or the higher death estimate and the lower hospitalization estimate is around a 14% mortality rate. So, if you are one of the fraction of 1% of seasonal flu cases that are hospitalized, you are at serious risk of dying. Similar to (but still less severe than) to Covid-19. But the overall mortality rate for this year's flu is .001x.14=.00014 or 14 per 100,000.

    4. The CDC estimated that the 2009 swine flu pandemic resulted in 60 million cases in the US. "From April 12, 2009 to April 10, 2010, CDC estimated there were 60.8 million cases..." This was a new strain and in the course of a year, infected over 1/6 of the US population. Left unchecked, it is possible that Covid-19 could spread in a flu like manner.

    IMO, people that find the flu analogy reassuring are generally missing the the fact that so few US seasonal flu cases are serious enough to require hospitalization. Conversely, Covid-19's severity was especially notable when Wohan's health care system was over run.

    The novel Swine flu epidemic of 2009 killed 1200 children and was notable for mostly affecting Young people. 80% of the deaths from Swine flu were under the age of 50. This is the opposite of the typical Flu, which kills mostly elderly victims .

    Hopefully the Corona virus does not spread as fast as the Swine flu , which spread from a dozen victims in April to 24 million Americans by September 2009.

  256. anon[200] • Disclaimer says:
    @Steve Sailer
    Per the CDC, this season to date (2019-2020) estimates 32,000,000 to 45,000,000 total cases [of flu] and 310,000 to 560,000 hospitalizations. This is roughly 1 in 1,000

    Isn't that 1 in 100? Are the number of hospitalizations too high?

    310,000 x 1000 = 310,000,000. So 1 in 1000

    What I am really trying to get at is why some people are forecasting the worse while others are shrugging it off using analogies to seasonal flu. Including reasonably to highly numerate people.

    It actually is like the seasonal flu severity for most of the distribution.

    Bad outcomes also skew older for Covid-19 then seasonal flu. The 2009 H1N1 saw “nearly one-third of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virus, likely from exposure to an older H1N1 virus earlier in their lives”. Which produced only “12,469 deaths “. CDC

    Someone commented in the WSJ, ‘isn’t this like the global warming hoax?’. Since I don’t believe in catastrophic AGW, not so much because the models are both much simpler and also based on centuries of epidemics.

    But these are not the sorts of things ordinary people are used to estimating. Seasonal flu has mortality rates 0f 14 per 100.000. Yet people throw around rates like 1% like it is nothing. 1% would be 1,000 per 100,000. 10 x the Baltimore homicide rate.

    The non linear frequency increases are also non intuitive. By the time you have common sense evidence of a serious problem, it is late.

    • Replies: @Travis
    good point. It is strange that so many here believe COVID is similar to the flu when the death rate of COVID-19 is an order of magnitude larger than the flu

    COVID-19 is much more deadly than the flu, 16% are hospitalized and over 2% of those infected will die from the virus. A Death rate of 2% is ten times greater than the death rate from Swine flu , which President Obama declared a national emergency for in October 2009.

    If 12% of Americans contract COVID-19 we will expect to have 750,000 deaths and 7 million hospitalized this year. The H1N1 pandemic had infected 10% of all Americans during the Spring and Summer of 2009. Yet the elderly were mostly immune to H1N1 , since most people over the age of 55 had antibodies to H1N1. The warmer weather of the summer did little to slow down the H1N1 epidemic which resulted in a state of emergency declaration in October of 2009

    If COVID-19 spreads as quickly as the H1N1 swine flu, we should expect more than a million Americans will contract corona virus before we get to July. If the death rate is 2% we should expect 20,000 deaths over the next few months.

    I suspect they will soon be closing all the Schools in California, New York and Washington State. They are already in the planning stages to close schools across the nation, just as they closed all the schools in Italy today.
  257. @Mr McKenna
    Gredeetings Infidels! We are here to diversify you! Open Borders FTW!

    https://otb.cachefly.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/sikh-doctor-dentist-570x379.jpg

    You know, a nation with Open Borders really doesn't need a Defense Department.

    Think of the savings! We can apply the funds to sex-reassignment surgeries.

    They are infidels too! (sikhs, not muslims). Better than the Homos, Trans, women and NAMS now losing to ragheads after burning trillions.

  258. @anon
    310,000 x 1000 = 310,000,000. So 1 in 1000

    What I am really trying to get at is why some people are forecasting the worse while others are shrugging it off using analogies to seasonal flu. Including reasonably to highly numerate people.

    It actually is like the seasonal flu severity for most of the distribution.

    Bad outcomes also skew older for Covid-19 then seasonal flu. The 2009 H1N1 saw "nearly one-third of people over 60 years old had antibodies against this virus, likely from exposure to an older H1N1 virus earlier in their lives". Which produced only "12,469 deaths ". CDC

    Someone commented in the WSJ, 'isn't this like the global warming hoax?'. Since I don't believe in catastrophic AGW, not so much because the models are both much simpler and also based on centuries of epidemics.

    But these are not the sorts of things ordinary people are used to estimating. Seasonal flu has mortality rates 0f 14 per 100.000. Yet people throw around rates like 1% like it is nothing. 1% would be 1,000 per 100,000. 10 x the Baltimore homicide rate.

    The non linear frequency increases are also non intuitive. By the time you have common sense evidence of a serious problem, it is late.

    good point. It is strange that so many here believe COVID is similar to the flu when the death rate of COVID-19 is an order of magnitude larger than the flu

    COVID-19 is much more deadly than the flu, 16% are hospitalized and over 2% of those infected will die from the virus. A Death rate of 2% is ten times greater than the death rate from Swine flu , which President Obama declared a national emergency for in October 2009.

    If 12% of Americans contract COVID-19 we will expect to have 750,000 deaths and 7 million hospitalized this year. The H1N1 pandemic had infected 10% of all Americans during the Spring and Summer of 2009. Yet the elderly were mostly immune to H1N1 , since most people over the age of 55 had antibodies to H1N1. The warmer weather of the summer did little to slow down the H1N1 epidemic which resulted in a state of emergency declaration in October of 2009

    If COVID-19 spreads as quickly as the H1N1 swine flu, we should expect more than a million Americans will contract corona virus before we get to July. If the death rate is 2% we should expect 20,000 deaths over the next few months.

    I suspect they will soon be closing all the Schools in California, New York and Washington State. They are already in the planning stages to close schools across the nation, just as they closed all the schools in Italy today.

    • Replies: @anon
    It is possible that two different strains are spreading, the L type and S type. Perhaps 70% of people caught the L type, which is more dangerous and likely to cause death. The S type is still spreading but it is not so dangerous.

    This is a typical pattern. A virus that is too deadly can't spread as far as a less dangerous one because humans die too fast to spread it.

    https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

    If this bifurcation is correct then it has some implications for treatment.

  259. anon[178] • Disclaimer says:
    @Travis
    good point. It is strange that so many here believe COVID is similar to the flu when the death rate of COVID-19 is an order of magnitude larger than the flu

    COVID-19 is much more deadly than the flu, 16% are hospitalized and over 2% of those infected will die from the virus. A Death rate of 2% is ten times greater than the death rate from Swine flu , which President Obama declared a national emergency for in October 2009.

    If 12% of Americans contract COVID-19 we will expect to have 750,000 deaths and 7 million hospitalized this year. The H1N1 pandemic had infected 10% of all Americans during the Spring and Summer of 2009. Yet the elderly were mostly immune to H1N1 , since most people over the age of 55 had antibodies to H1N1. The warmer weather of the summer did little to slow down the H1N1 epidemic which resulted in a state of emergency declaration in October of 2009

    If COVID-19 spreads as quickly as the H1N1 swine flu, we should expect more than a million Americans will contract corona virus before we get to July. If the death rate is 2% we should expect 20,000 deaths over the next few months.

    I suspect they will soon be closing all the Schools in California, New York and Washington State. They are already in the planning stages to close schools across the nation, just as they closed all the schools in Italy today.

    It is possible that two different strains are spreading, the L type and S type. Perhaps 70% of people caught the L type, which is more dangerous and likely to cause death. The S type is still spreading but it is not so dangerous.

    This is a typical pattern. A virus that is too deadly can’t spread as far as a less dangerous one because humans die too fast to spread it.

    https://academic.oup.com/nsr/advance-article/doi/10.1093/nsr/nwaa036/5775463

    If this bifurcation is correct then it has some implications for treatment.

  260. @Steve Sailer
    Per the CDC, this season to date (2019-2020) estimates 32,000,000 to 45,000,000 total cases [of flu] and 310,000 to 560,000 hospitalizations. This is roughly 1 in 1,000

    Isn't that 1 in 100? Are the number of hospitalizations too high?

    Whoops. Exactly. The figures are from CDC infographic.

    Maybe I’m over thinking it.

  261. @Corn
    Chinese also weren’t shy about imposing travel bans and lockdowns. Alot of that probably wouldn’t fly here. I hope I’m wrong.

    Chinese also weren’t shy about imposing travel bans and lockdowns. Alot of that probably wouldn’t fly here. I hope I’m wrong.

    I think it will happen in the US and Western Europe, but not until the situation is totally out of control.

    Our political “leaders” are re-active, not pro-active.

    • Replies: @Lockean Proviso
    Unless state officials have been read into the genetically engineered ethno-selective bioweapon conspiracy and threatened with consequences if the talk or shut down the economy.

    Either that, or they're just cowardly and lack foresight.
  262. @Hail

    Tulsi won one delegate from American Samoa
     
    Finally, some good news.

    This means they have to let her onto the next debate, unless they discover a new rule in the meantime to exclude her. ("Valid only in the continental United States. Does not apply to Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, or minor Pacific Island possessions.")

  263. @SimpleSong
    This sort of thing makes me so happy the internet exists.

    When I was a young man, I would see buildings like this, and find them incredibly ugly. And yet they won awards and architects fawned over them. And I never heard criticism of these buildings from intelligent laypeople, which I assumed signaled their concurrence with the Pritzkers of the world. So I assumed something was wrong with me.

    The anonymous comment is so valuable: people don't worry about status or the prevailing wisdom or any other social distortion. They write things they would only normally only say to themselves. Posting feels like talking into an empty room, so you fall back to primal desires. For a large portion of the population, the core desire is just to say something that they believe is true.

    You can get a good handle on a person's character and intelligence from a short written snippet so you know that these are people that you respect in real life. Now I know that it isn't just me, lots of intelligent people find this stuff hideous.

    It is much harder for the emperor to walk around naked in this era.

    Tom Wolfe wrote a book about bad architecture: From Bauhaus to Our House

  264. @Alden
    The San Francisco convention and hotel business is being hit hard. The big city owned convention center's had every convention scheduled up to June cancelled. Doesn't help that San Francisco airport is one of only 4 airports that still get flights direct from China.

    couldn’t happen to a nicer town…

  265. Anon[337] • Disclaimer says:
    @anonymous
    "So the dogs couldn’t be fed today,” she wrote"...well yes, they could. Why do so many air-heads wind up sheltering numerous animals? It is kind of sad...they love the dogs, but they do not come close to understanding them.

    People who are experienced breeding and raising dogs would never take this kind of risk.

    Women do best, typically, when they have persons to care for. Otherwise dumb substitutions happen. That’s what makes women “of a certain age” (say forty plus) suited for assisting local charities (orphanages, old age homes). However, in our current cultures, such work is not fashionable, and they transfer the nurturing instinct to wild beasts. Men are silly too, but in a different way. We are social creatures, very “monkey see, monkey do”.

  266. @Anonymous
    Why aren’t schools closed in Washington? The Seattle area is currently where Wuhan was in the first week of January. It got so bad in Wuhan that the city was locked down in the third week of January. Why not act decisively now before it gets that bad?

    This strange virus does not target children. Schools are not such a priority.

    Otherwise Wuhan is not Washington on so many levels. This virus attacks the lungs and frankly Wuhan China in winter was maybe the most favorable location on earth for maximum impact.

    Yes there was a catastrophe at the Washington critical care home. Very sad but not representative of the epidemic.

    Some Americans are going to get very sick but don't expect a mass die off in the USA.

    Mass die off occurred in a very dense population of heavy smoking East Asians (unusual ACE2 cell receptor lung biology) living in the world's worst air pollution along with poor medical hygiene conditions.

    @ This strange virus does not target children.

    Let’s just hope the virus was not engineered to “not target children.” The idea of deliberate mass orphandom bring to mind the Janissaries and the child soldiers in Africa. This would be worse, pribably.

  267. @Mr McKenna
    Good point about Barack. While I haven't seen Biden's commercials it's clear that the Obama Connection™ put him over the top. Negro voters (negroes generally, really) aren't known for their subtlety or appreciation of nuance. It doesn't really matter that Obama hasn't officially endorsed Biden. Teevee tells the negroes that Barack said all these nice things about Biden. Case closed.

    https://www.udiscovermusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Parliament-Mothership-Connection-album-cover-820.jpg

    If it rhyme, all tha time, it ain't no crime, it's sublime!

    (I typed in 'rhymes with' and Google returned 'snitch')

    Yeah, you’re right. Have you seen Mike Judge’s “Get on the Bus”? Check out episode 1, Season 2.

  268. @Hail
    To be precise, she is 5/16ths Samoan, 10/16ths NW European (primarily or wholly colonial-American and German, per paper-genealogy and corroborated by her 23andMe), 1/16th Other European.

    I have commented here before that Gabbard is really of "US Military Ethnicity." Maybe better expressed as "(fringe of the) US Empire Ethnicity." Several of the generations involved in the racial mixing that led to Tulsi Gabbard involved cases of local women who met single white men who were flung to the far corners of the early US empire by the military or comparable ventures:


    What’s most notable about Tulsi’s father is that he seems characteristic of what I have sometimes thought of as “the U.S. Military Ethnicity,” which one tends to come into contact with at the margins of the informal empire.

    I would define these people as lacking strong ties to a rooted ethnocultural nation/people, who owe their existence to U.S. military deployments (often, to soldiers’ pairings with local women). The U.S. military and the empire offer such people a coherent identity, instead of having to say/think “I am mixed [such] and [such].”

    Tulsi Gabbard’s father is the grandson of a U.S. sailor who married a Samoan while on shore leave after WWI, which is just one among several of the interracial unions in Tulsi’s dad’s background. I do think this partial, deep ‘military ethnicity’ paternal origin cannot but inform Tulsi’s personal identity [....] This could well explain her decision to join the U.S. military herself in the early 2000s, despite her essentially non-belligerent personality. She was embracing her roots.
     

    (Tulsi's reclusive husband is highly racially ambiguous, even moreso than Gabbard herself. If they have a child, it'll be racially indeterminate in the extreme. But, then, it's Hawaii...)

    (As an intellectual exercise, what is the ethnonationalist option for Gabbard? It would be to find another part-white, part-Islander man; new ethnicities can and do form this way, but it would need a few generations of stability.)

    I’m a fan of her. But she does play the “Woman of color” card sometimes, but it’s always in the context of goading Liberals and Progressives. I don’t know. As identity-politics victimhood currency becomes the coin of the realm–and the white man gets painted as the ultimate bogeyman who must be stopped at all costs–it becomes increasingly hard to support any politician who isn’t white. As of right now, though, I’d choose her over all the other Dems in a heartbeat.

  269. @Harry Baldwin
    When I was still shocked by the first hit, the guy delivered the second sucker punch.

    Shouldn't only the first hit be described as a sucker punch? A sucker punch is unexpected. After you're hit, you might expect a follow up.

    Here at iSteve, commenters have a proud history of not knowing what “sucker punch” actually means – maybe this guy is a reader….

  270. @Anonymous
    COVID19 may be the straw that breaks the camel's back for the push against immigration reform. Which will be literally anudah Shoah, lol. Potok might have to pause his tables for a year or two.

    If Corona kills a lot more of the aged than the young, that leaves a younger, browner electorate voting to support more immigration.

  271. @YetAnotherAnon
    Alas the Paper Of Record doesn't have a report, but as neither the Guardian nor Evening Standard are reporting the race of the attackers, I'm assuming they are black.

    OT but Angry Lesbian news from Greece.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/04/we-left-fearing-for-our-lives-doctors-set-upon-by-mob-in-lesbos


    A group of doctors who flew to Lesbos to volunteer at the island’s infamous Moria migrant camp have described how they were forced to flee after being set upon by a mob wielding nail-headed cudgels.

    The attack was the the latest in a series of violent incidents targeting international aid workers, amid an increasingly hostile climate which has prompted several NGOs to withdraw from the Mediterranean island.

    “We left fearing for our lives,” said Dr Victoria Bradley, an Irish GP who was among the medics. “It was very, very frightening.”

    Her voice still cracking from “fear and exhaustion,” Bradley described how the eight-car convoy she and fellow doctors were travelling in was surrounded by an angry mob as they left Moria, the reception facility where over 22,000 men, women and children are holed up in deplorable conditions.

    “When we finished the clinic we couldn’t take the main road because of blockades and so walked up through the olive groves where some cars came to collect us. Not long after, we were stopped by maybe 50 men with cudgels, large heavy sticks with nails in them. They smashed our windscreen and then one man, a huge man, literally thrust his foot through my [backseat] window and tried to kick my head,” said Bradley speaking from the airport in Mytilene, the island’s capital.

    Bradley had been due to stay on the island for a week, but after the incident on Sunday, the medics decided to withdraw en masse the next day.

    The violence has further exposed the explosive tensions on the island, long on the frontline of the refugee crisis – and now bracing for a potentially massive influx of asylum-seekers after Turkey’s abrupt decision to open its frontiers to “millions” of people hoping to reach Europe.

    NGOs have been increasingly blamed for facilitating the arrival of migrants on Lesbos. Volunteers’ vehicles have been smashed as suspicion has spread that aid organisations have actively encouraged migratory flows.

    On Tuesday authorities reported that an NGO-run warehouse, storing clothes and blankets, had gone up in flames on another Aegean island, Chios. The fire, whose cause remains unknown, broke out at 3.30am.

    Police claim to have caught NGO workers red-handed “communicating with traffickers” on the Turkish coast.
     

    Also OT, CNN vow to up their iSteve content generation.

    https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/cnn-style-beauty-editors-note/index.html


    Much has been done to break down the standards and norms that have marginalized so many people, but there's a lot more to do. We hope the new beauty section will become a platform for a variety of voices to share their own lived experiences. For the launch, Chinese American photographer Andrew Kung wrote about the desexualization of Asian American men, and the writer, activist and artist Alok V. Menon contributed a powerful story about their own experience of beauty as a visibly gender-nonconforming person.
     

    I have been following this stuff closely. It’s inspiring. It’s beautiful the the way the Lesbians of Greece are beating up the pussies. (I could just eat them!)

    • Agree: YetAnotherAnon
  272. @Justvisiting

    Chinese also weren’t shy about imposing travel bans and lockdowns. Alot of that probably wouldn’t fly here. I hope I’m wrong.
     
    I think it will happen in the US and Western Europe, but not until the situation is totally out of control.

    Our political "leaders" are re-active, not pro-active.

    Unless state officials have been read into the genetically engineered ethno-selective bioweapon conspiracy and threatened with consequences if the talk or shut down the economy.

    Either that, or they’re just cowardly and lack foresight.

  273. @Je Suis Omar Mateen
    I predicted November 2016 that if the Democrats nominate a pale stale frail male, they know Trump is handily winning a second term. El Rushbo has finally embraced my ancient prophecy.

    Heart Attack Bernie will dominate super tues.

    Creepy quid pro Joe will stay in the race, hoping for a BJ Clinton-style comeback.

    Legitimate Injun, the only candidate endowed with scientifically-verified Diversity privilege, will drop out.

    Mini Mike will squander another $600 million on his hopeless vanity campaign.

    The fakestream media will pray to Evolution that corona-chan causes a recession -- which is the only way Trump loses.

    Heart Attack Bernie will dominate super tues.

    Creepy quid pro Joe will stay in the race, hoping for a BJ Clinton-style comeback.

    Legitimate Injun, the only candidate endowed with scientifically-verified Diversity privilege, will drop out.

    Mini Mike will squander another $600 million on his hopeless vanity campaign.

    This is why I no longer attempt predictions.

  274. @Tiny Duck
    Actually Sanders does well with LAtinos and People of Color. HE will kick rearend in Califronia and Texas and New York the only states that matter becasue of their diversity. No matter who wins the democrats will win the general IF everybody is allowed to vote. The average age of a Person of Color is 19 the average age of a white person is 55. Game over.


    Also, Why isnt the virus affecting Africa? Is it because Black genes are super strong and ward off disease?

    No wonder white girls are increasingly choosing to bear Children of Black Men.

    They only want the best!

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