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A writer named Calley Means recounts an eye-opening lesson:
Early in my career, I consulted for Coke to ensure sugar taxes failed and soda was included in food stamp funding.
I say Coke’s policies are evil because I saw inside the room.
The first step in playbook was paying the NAACP + other civil rights groups to call opponents racist.
Coke gave millions to the NAACP and the Hispanic Federation – both directly and through front groups like the American Beverage Association.
This picked up in 2011-2013 – when the Farm Bill and soda taxes were under consideration.
The conversations inside these rooms was depressingly transactional:
“We (Coke) will give you money. You need to paint opponents of us as racist.”
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Practically all mainstream black leaders are whores.
A black Atlantan businessman once said that his neighbors all drank Pepsi. Unless they were “strivers”.
PepsiCo’s Mountain Dew might be the GOAT, but one of its ads was said to have been the most racist of all time:
“We (Coke) will give you money. You need to paint opponents of us as racist.”
Well, did Coke’s plan work? Let’s have a list of Coke’s opponents who are considered racist. Pepsi? Big Milk (the dairy industry)? RC Cola? Fanta?
Coke's scheme worked.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/milk-white-supremacy-racism_n_5bffad35e4b0864f4f6a3e28
Well, did Coke's plan work? Let's have a list of Coke's opponents who are considered racist. Pepsi? Big Milk (the dairy industry)? RC Cola? Fanta?Replies: @Larry, San Francisco, @Peter Akuleyev, @Ben Kurtz
Wasn’t against other sugar producers, the contributions were to protect it from regulators who wanted to limit sugar intake.
As usual you buried the lede. By not even getting to it.
“Sugary drinks are one of the top causes of obesity and diabetes.”
But let us express our freedom and drink a hundred thousand big gulps and then charge up the taxpayer for all your hospitalizations.
It’s freedom! FREEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!
A black Atlantan businessman once said that his neighbors all drank Pepsi. Unless they were "strivers".Replies: @reactionry
“strivers”
Reg Caesar might have been relieved to learn that in spite of the apparent striving of Deborah Anderson of the Harvard School of Medicine for an “Ig Nobel” Prize in Chemistry in the 1980s, evidence is lacking for contraceptive efficacy of Coca Cola Douches.
https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn14864-coca-cola-douches-scoop-ig-nobel-prize/
A vinyl of the below is lurking around here somewhere. Clicking on Play is not advised.
Also see: Coca Cola, obesity, Fatty Arbuckle
This guy is telling the truth. I actually remember hearing about this back around a decade ago.
It’s unfortunate to see how easy it is to bribe leading authority figures in the USA. I wonder why bribery and corruption are so pervasive at the top. Is it because American society has become so comically greedy that the mentality is to make money at any cost? Is it because the competition for elite jobs is so extreme that typically only the unscrupulous get to the top? Is it because individuals from relatively less ethical groups (Jews, Blacks, Asians, Indians, Muslims, Eastern Euros, Cubans, Armenians, Ellis Islanders, etc.) are well-represented in elite occupations?
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/24/nyregion/fight-over-bloombergs-soda-ban-reaches-courtroom.html
Check out the above links.
"Civil Rights" groups are increasingly becoming grift operations.Replies: @Art Deco, @Barnard, @Ben Kurtz
But the biggest reason is even more obvious: if the government has an enormous amount of power, enough power to easily make or break your business, then you have a fiduciary obligation to influence the government by any means necessary to protect your stockholders.
Or in simpler language:
Big government is inevitably corrupt government.
Because it is really worth bribing big government.Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @Achmed E. Newman
But in America it's ridiculous. However it goes with the whole crazy "hunger in America" nonsense. If you visit the ghettoes of America there are a lot of problems but lack of calories isn't one of them. There is a huge government and non-profit structure that is pushing MORE food into American ghettos but hardly anyone that is invested in people consuming LESS food.Replies: @Corn
Probably nutrition/ health advocates who argued that soda is not food and maybe also that poor food stamp recipients, particularly blacks, have a higher than average obesity rate and shouldn’t be drinking government subsidized sugar water.
If it wasn’t for sugar, those NAACP leaders would be likely living in Africa. Contrary to the popular saying, sugar (and tobacco) are what really got slavery established.
If you ask actual black people though they would largely be okay with this. This is like the corporate equivalent of Freeway Rick’s case about the CIA selling heroin to people who are already addicted to heroin. The bad guy here is government un-Constitutionally declaring itself tsar of all health and food, not white people or Coca-Cola. As far as I know there are no food stamp programs which can be called truly “healthy” or abuse-proof.
However, it stumbles across a potential major unifying issue, which is that in Joe Biden’s America, completely unprecedented levels of corruption are totally out of control, to the point that normies are starting to talk about it.
So did they actually do this, did they push the propaganda that being anti sugary drinks was racist?
Off-topic.
Elimination of Harmful Language #1
The Supreme Court in 1942 unanimously agreed on an exception to otherwise widely protected free speech. It’s quite odd that almost no one today knows what epithet was shouted that led the Court to declare that exceptions to free speech include,
What did Chaplinsky shout that the Supreme Court deemed unprotected speech? I urge you to look below the fold:
That’s right, abusing someone by falsely calling them a fascist (or, presumably, a Nazi, or, probably, a racist) is fighting words not protected by the First Amendment.
If I could afford it I’d offer a $100,000 prize to anyone who can find in recent years among the numerous pro-censorship groups (DNC, DHS, FBI, CIA, Atlantic Council, NGOs, Broken Society Foundation, other woke foundations, international organizations, university disinformation oracles, MSM editorialists, DIE commissars, libel leagues, direct-mail enrichment centers, grievance coalitions) a single expression of concern about the millions of individuals falsely accused in social media and other public settings of being a fascist or Nazi.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlLpciGaUAEEJ0M?format=jpg&name=medium
Ugly video of U. North Texas Antifa, lily-white and black-clad, using blackshirt methods to shut down a political speech:
(The precise boundaries of the exception are unresolved. Exhaustive nuance can be found here: https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/topics/freedom-of-speech-2/personal-public-expression-overview/fighting-words/)
(The f-word and the extremism industry – https://www.firstthings.com/article/2022/12/the-f-word )
https://twitter.com/calleymeans/status/1609929033399283712
It's unfortunate to see how easy it is to bribe leading authority figures in the USA. I wonder why bribery and corruption are so pervasive at the top. Is it because American society has become so comically greedy that the mentality is to make money at any cost? Is it because the competition for elite jobs is so extreme that typically only the unscrupulous get to the top? Is it because individuals from relatively less ethical groups (Jews, Blacks, Asians, Indians, Muslims, Eastern Euros, Cubans, Armenians, Ellis Islanders, etc.) are well-represented in elite occupations?Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @PhysicistDave, @Jack D
https://www.businessinsider.com/naacp-joins-soda-ban-lawsuit-2013-1
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/24/nyregion/fight-over-bloombergs-soda-ban-reaches-courtroom.html
Check out the above links.
“Civil Rights” groups are increasingly becoming grift operations.
Jesse Jackson's outfit was exposed as a shakedown operation nearly 40 years ago.
As for the NAACP, Bruce Gordon during his time as director attempted to re-orient its efforts in the direction of social work and was slapped down by the board. He figured that he, as an accomplished business executive (retired) shouldn't have to take orders from a no-account like Julian Bond and resigned. After Mr. Gordon heads off into the sunset, the board announces its top priority will be a 'federal hate crimes bill'.
I can think of two black politicians who made a positive difference where they were at work: Anthony Williams and Robert Bowser. Williams has not been a particularly honored figure in the black population and Bowser ended up being voted out of office.Replies: @Ganderson, @Arclight
[Cue up the"always has been" meme.]
“That’s right, abusing someone by falsely calling them a fascist (or, presumably, a Nazi, or, probably, a racist) is fighting words not protected by the First Amendment.”
I dunno, being demonstrably any of those things just makes it a statement of fact.
The new government in Israel just cancelled a tax on soft drinks instituted by the previous administration because Ultra-Orthodox Jews with large families drink them a lot. They also complained that it was bigoted.
In a similar fashion:
The Japanese company that makes MSG runs a worldwide campaign to label anyone who deems MSG to be harmful “racist”. They even got a couple of Z-list “stars “ in the US, Eddie Huang and Jennie Mai, to scream “Way-cist” at anyone criticizing their sacred MSG. It got to the point where scientists in the US stopped studying its effects
Meanwhile, researchers in China have found that MSG is harmful for kids at least. How way-cist
https://twitter.com/calleymeans/status/1609929033399283712
It's unfortunate to see how easy it is to bribe leading authority figures in the USA. I wonder why bribery and corruption are so pervasive at the top. Is it because American society has become so comically greedy that the mentality is to make money at any cost? Is it because the competition for elite jobs is so extreme that typically only the unscrupulous get to the top? Is it because individuals from relatively less ethical groups (Jews, Blacks, Asians, Indians, Muslims, Eastern Euros, Cubans, Armenians, Ellis Islanders, etc.) are well-represented in elite occupations?Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @PhysicistDave, @Jack D
JohnnyWalker123 asked:
Both of those.
But the biggest reason is even more obvious: if the government has an enormous amount of power, enough power to easily make or break your business, then you have a fiduciary obligation to influence the government by any means necessary to protect your stockholders.
Or in simpler language:
Big government is inevitably corrupt government.
Because it is really worth bribing big government.
But I think the problem you describe is not only real, but also deeper than bribing government. When survival is at stake, nothing is off the table. Therefore, when government wields great power over your life or business, this leads to widespread corruption because the cost of failure is existential . The corruption includes not only government, but politics, and social norms. As we have seen, it's not just bribing the government, but bribing, corrupting, or perverting every conceivable institution and brainwashing every possible person. Republican government doesn't require Marquis of Queensbury rules, but there need to be some norms and limits on how the battles are fought.Replies: @PhysicistDave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFRWf-CNC8Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Ben tillman
I’m confused. Was the goat supposed to be black?
The soft bigotry of low expectations at work again. Calling sugar addictive is false however.
For a glimpse inside Corporate Woke in America, have a look at Disney.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2022-12-28/disneys-midnight-ceo-ouster-tale-corruption-esg-politics-possible-ftx-contagion
Voting Harder isn’t going to fix this for the Right.
OT: Tonight a player on the 100% vaccinated Buffalo Bill’s suffered a heart attack after a routine tackle and either died suddenly or is fighting for his life.
But the really important thing is that we don’t allow people to exploit this event to cast doubt on the safety and effectiveness of the vaxx. If Hamlin hadn’t been vaccinated his eventual case of covid could have been slightly worse. So let’s keep things in perspective.
In fact, climate change causes a whole host of problems including heart, birth defects and miscarriage.
Definitely not the clot shot.
There are now 263 million people or 79% of the US population that have received at least one dose of the Covid vaccine. Many of these 263 million people are going to drop dead from various causes from now on. (Hamlin BTW is still alive). The fact that any given vaccinated individual drops dead neither proves nor disproves that the vaccine kills you. In fact it doesn't prove anything at all and the fact that you think that it does only shows the depth of your ignorance and total lack of understanding of science and statistics.Replies: @PeterIke, @Hypnotoad666
I died once for a few minutes, but I was in intensive care at the time so doctors were right in the room with me when it happened. Pulmonary embolism. Gotta say, even with immediate medical attention it was a pretty rough go. Felt like I had a few dozen fishhooks in my right lung, and someone was standing on my shoulders trying to yank them out. Do not recommend.
Yes, sugar was a plantation crop requiring slavery before the Europeans even arrived in West in Africa.
It was unknown in England since the 1100's. Even the Church forbade it in about 1205.
But the really important thing is that we don't allow people to exploit this event to cast doubt on the safety and effectiveness of the vaxx. If Hamlin hadn't been vaccinated his eventual case of covid could have been slightly worse. So let's keep things in perspective.Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @R.G. Camara, @TWS, @Jack D, @Veteran Aryan, @International Jew
In 2022, Shane Warne, the most famous cricketer of the last 30 years, suddenly dropped dead at age 52. Triple jabbed.
The jab was not mentioned as a cause of death.
Meanwhile, Rod Stewart was very angry with people who would not get jabbed.
Hi again Steve. I’ll post this a second time just in case you have a change of heart, or perhaps deleted it by accident. Or was the “negro” thing a problem? Sorry I didn’t include any goats.
But the really important thing is that we don't allow people to exploit this event to cast doubt on the safety and effectiveness of the vaxx. If Hamlin hadn't been vaccinated his eventual case of covid could have been slightly worse. So let's keep things in perspective.Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @R.G. Camara, @TWS, @Jack D, @Veteran Aryan, @International Jew
Relevant to that: A WSJ op-ed that takes no prisoners. What was last week’s evil conspiracy theory is this week’s angry editorial. (Incidentally I’m sort of agnostic about the whole business.)
Previous comment (with no links) marked as spam. What’s going on around here?
If only someone had foreseen this...
smdh
But the really important thing is that we don't allow people to exploit this event to cast doubt on the safety and effectiveness of the vaxx. If Hamlin hadn't been vaccinated his eventual case of covid could have been slightly worse. So let's keep things in perspective.Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @R.G. Camara, @TWS, @Jack D, @Veteran Aryan, @International Jew
RIP, but he was ranting about people who didn’t get vaccinated as being evil and causing the pandemic to continue.
But the biggest reason is even more obvious: if the government has an enormous amount of power, enough power to easily make or break your business, then you have a fiduciary obligation to influence the government by any means necessary to protect your stockholders.
Or in simpler language:
Big government is inevitably corrupt government.
Because it is really worth bribing big government.Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @Achmed E. Newman
True and concise.
But I think the problem you describe is not only real, but also deeper than bribing government. When survival is at stake, nothing is off the table.
Therefore, when government wields great power over your life or business, this leads to widespread corruption because the cost of failure is existential . The corruption includes not only government, but politics, and social norms.
As we have seen, it’s not just bribing the government, but bribing, corrupting, or perverting every conceivable institution and brainwashing every possible person. Republican government doesn’t require Marquis of Queensbury rules, but there need to be some norms and limits on how the battles are fought.
A broader issue that I have been thinking about is that we have created a largely "zero-sum" society in which people's goals -- especially the goals of upper-middle-class young people -- is to make it into a fixed number of positions.
Bright, ambitious kids have to shape their high-school experience to give them a shot at getting into one of the HYPS or at least one of the "public Ivies." We have a fixed number of slots in law or med schools. And not everyone can become a DIE officer or a green consultant, or whatever.
It didn't use to be this way. My great-grandmother, whom I knew quite well, was born on a farm. If you worked hard, and had good luck with the weather and with pests, you would have a good harvest. If your neighbor also had a good harvest, this did not diminish your harvest.
And being a skilled, manipulative bullshitter improved your harvest not a whit.
It's not like that anymore.
Of course, there are still people who deal with physical reality: farmers, truck drivers, airplane mechanics, engineers, etc.
But, with the exception of some medical specialties, those are not the prestige occupations.
Those are the "Dirt People."
Middle-class people aspire to their kids becoming "Cloud People," people who make a living by using words to control and manipulate other people, guys like our friends Jack D., Corvinus, HA, et al.
And you become one of the successful "Cloud People" by showing your ability to play politics and manipulate other people, and, more often then not, by outright lying and cheating and engaging in illegal behavior (all of this is more common even among physicians than most people realize).
This ultimately goes back to governmental policies that create these positions or artificially limit access to these positions.
We have willfully created a situation in which the dominant class of our population is a "parasitic verbalist overvlass" that despises the ordinary people who make our material lives possible.
And all this horrifically warps people's character and their lives, especially for young people.
It is no wonder that so many young people are engaging in self-harm, such as "cutting."
This cannot go on forever.
And what cannot go on forever, won't.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
Can’t find the article, but read that two liter sodas were used as currency in depressed parts of Kentucky and West Virginia. Get them with food stamps, trade for cigarettes, meth, prostitutes.
I keep thinking packaged beef jerky would make a more convenient specie, but they must have their reasons.
Big Meat signs treaty with meth cartel to trade only in jerky, thereby unseating Big Soda from its exorbitant privilege
Sugar is one of the worst good ideas people ever had. We love sweets because they are so rich in calories and rare in nature. But cultivating cane in the West Indies essentially began the African slave trade in the western hemisphere, with all the residual ill effects we suffer to this day. Not the least of which was Parliament’s Sugar Act of 1764, which first caused wealthy men further north to agitate for abandoning their loyalty to king and country. Now the stuff is so cheap it’s used as filler in most processed foods, its excessive use a large factor in our present epidemic rates of obesity, heart disease, and diabetes. Its effects on our physical health are now as unfortunate as its earlier moral and political consequences.
Slavery is no longer a factor but the US is not cost competitive in sugar production. If we had stayed just with cane sugar, eventually the trade barriers would have been lowered and we would have come to rely on imported sugar. Overseas industries don't have political clout and restricting sugar imports would have been a political winner.
However, modern chemists figured out a way to convert the starch in corn to a form of sugar ("high fructose corn syrup") which is particularly well suited for use in soft drinks because it is already in liquid form. The corn that we consume is 100% US grown. The US is a world leader in corn production and bring corn to America is like coals to Newcastle. The sugar lobby is nothing compared to the corn lobby.
Sugar? You mean high fructose corn syrup.
Marek’s Disease all over again.
If only someone had foreseen this…
smdh
I keep thinking packaged beef jerky would make a more convenient specie, but they must have their reasons.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Almost Missouri, @JR Ewing, @Achmed E. Newman
It was Kevin Williamson at NRO describing a trip through Appalachia.
I recall his description of a Trump rally in 2016: It was nothing like the Trump rally I went to. He described a bunch of gap-tooth hillbilly racists. All I saw was nice middle-class whites, most probably college educated, like myself. The anti-Trump protestors were shaggy noisy scum. No word from Williamson about them.
After that, I began to notice all kinds of whoppers in his writings. Fraud. Phony. Bum.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
It’s actually refreshing to hear that, behind the scenes, no one really believes this woke b.s. and its all a cover story for shakedowns and political pressure.
If the story is true, of course.
struggle sessions"sensitivity training", all of his coworkers only pretend to participate when the Angry Black Lady is watching them and the rest of the time they are laughing about it and talking about other topics. I really do think our culture is controlled by a tiny minority of ideological people who have power because more normal people are too polite or scared of losing their jobs to tell them to shut up. I'm not sure if my friend is in the first group or the latter, or maybe it's both.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @CornI keep thinking packaged beef jerky would make a more convenient specie, but they must have their reasons.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Almost Missouri, @JR Ewing, @Achmed E. Newman
Soda = Appalachian reserve currency
Big Meat signs treaty with meth cartel to trade only in jerky, thereby unseating Big Soda from its exorbitant privilege
I keep thinking packaged beef jerky would make a more convenient specie, but they must have their reasons.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Almost Missouri, @JR Ewing, @Achmed E. Newman
This is a great story. Entirely hearsay on my part, but I’m pretty sure it can be verified with some internet searching. I’m too lazy to go look for references.
Nonetheless…
It used to be twelve packs and cases of soda that were used to launder food stamps into pseudo-currency, presumably because they keep forever and are rectangular and modular and easy to stack and store. Kevin D Williamson wrote a very good piece about this ~10-15 (or more) years ago as part of a larger investigation into poor Appalachian whites.
So, as the word got out, some government genius somewhere declared that something must be done, so they put pressure on the soda companies to reduce the number of cans being sold and to switch over to bottles.
The effect of which was that a black market then developed for the molded plastic pallets and crates that hold 2 liter bottles and allow those to be easily stacked and carried.
One of the most “government-y” stories ever, and totally believable, imo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdFRWf-CNC8Replies: @Hypnotoad666, @Ben tillman
It looks like something Key and Peele would do.
Well, did Coke's plan work? Let's have a list of Coke's opponents who are considered racist. Pepsi? Big Milk (the dairy industry)? RC Cola? Fanta?Replies: @Larry, San Francisco, @Peter Akuleyev, @Ben Kurtz
Coke was mostly targeting health and wellness professionals, nutritionists and doctors who were trying to get the government to reduce consumption of sugary sodas. Most of those professionals were naturally white liberals, for whom accusations of “racism” are like a body blow.
Elimination of Harmful Language #1
The Supreme Court in 1942 unanimously agreed on an exception to otherwise widely protected free speech. It’s quite odd that almost no one today knows what epithet was shouted that led the Court to declare that exceptions to free speech include,What did Chaplinsky shout that the Supreme Court deemed unprotected speech? I urge you to look below the fold:
That’s right, abusing someone by falsely calling them a fascist (or, presumably, a Nazi, or, probably, a racist) is fighting words not protected by the First Amendment.
If I could afford it I’d offer a $100,000 prize to anyone who can find in recent years among the numerous pro-censorship groups (DNC, DHS, FBI, CIA, Atlantic Council, NGOs, Broken Society Foundation, other woke foundations, international organizations, university disinformation oracles, MSM editorialists, DIE commissars, libel leagues, direct-mail enrichment centers, grievance coalitions) a single expression of concern about the millions of individuals falsely accused in social media and other public settings of being a fascist or Nazi.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FlLpciGaUAEEJ0M?format=jpg&name=medium
Ugly video of U. North Texas Antifa, lily-white and black-clad, using blackshirt methods to shut down a political speech:
https://youtu.be/HWF4RFdfQwM
(The precise boundaries of the exception are unresolved. Exhaustive nuance can be found here: https://www.freedomforuminstitute.org/first-amendment-center/topics/freedom-of-speech-2/personal-public-expression-overview/fighting-words/)
(The f-word and the extremism industry - https://www.firstthings.com/article/2022/12/the-f-word )Replies: @Ben tillman
Fighting words are spoken words, not written.
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/24/nyregion/fight-over-bloombergs-soda-ban-reaches-courtroom.html
Check out the above links.
"Civil Rights" groups are increasingly becoming grift operations.Replies: @Art Deco, @Barnard, @Ben Kurtz
“Civil Rights” groups are increasingly becoming grift operations.
Jesse Jackson’s outfit was exposed as a shakedown operation nearly 40 years ago.
As for the NAACP, Bruce Gordon during his time as director attempted to re-orient its efforts in the direction of social work and was slapped down by the board. He figured that he, as an accomplished business executive (retired) shouldn’t have to take orders from a no-account like Julian Bond and resigned. After Mr. Gordon heads off into the sunset, the board announces its top priority will be a ‘federal hate crimes bill’.
I can think of two black politicians who made a positive difference where they were at work: Anthony Williams and Robert Bowser. Williams has not been a particularly honored figure in the black population and Bowser ended up being voted out of office.
Very true, and also pertinent is that the destructive effects are actually getting worse in recent years.
In 1960, I believe, there was good reason for hope. Not so much now, unless of course you like the idea of whites being enslaved and/or exterminated.
Many of us here recognize that this deterioration is essentially deliberate policy from TPTB. What a time to be alive.
NatLamp’s 1964 High School Yearbook suggests that “Buckeye Cola” will do the trick.
Jesse Jackson's outfit was exposed as a shakedown operation nearly 40 years ago.
As for the NAACP, Bruce Gordon during his time as director attempted to re-orient its efforts in the direction of social work and was slapped down by the board. He figured that he, as an accomplished business executive (retired) shouldn't have to take orders from a no-account like Julian Bond and resigned. After Mr. Gordon heads off into the sunset, the board announces its top priority will be a 'federal hate crimes bill'.
I can think of two black politicians who made a positive difference where they were at work: Anthony Williams and Robert Bowser. Williams has not been a particularly honored figure in the black population and Bowser ended up being voted out of office.Replies: @Ganderson, @Arclight
Didn’t the good Reverend Jackson get a Budweiser distributorship for one of his kids?
Too stupid to realize that a Bud distributorship is a license to print money and all he needed was a white guy to run it. Dad had some fake charity (Operation Push, IIRC) that got lots of federal grants to help the brothers blah blah blah.
My favorite piece of hypocrisy from JJ was him "preaching" with BJC at the height of the Monica mess. Soon thereafter it was revealed that JJ had a love child.
Jesse Jackson's outfit was exposed as a shakedown operation nearly 40 years ago.
As for the NAACP, Bruce Gordon during his time as director attempted to re-orient its efforts in the direction of social work and was slapped down by the board. He figured that he, as an accomplished business executive (retired) shouldn't have to take orders from a no-account like Julian Bond and resigned. After Mr. Gordon heads off into the sunset, the board announces its top priority will be a 'federal hate crimes bill'.
I can think of two black politicians who made a positive difference where they were at work: Anthony Williams and Robert Bowser. Williams has not been a particularly honored figure in the black population and Bowser ended up being voted out of office.Replies: @Ganderson, @Arclight
I wouldn’t even agree with the “increasingly” in the quote – they ARE grift operations and that is the entire point of their existence for at least the last 50 years. Add to that a huge share of black churches (yes, I know there are white religious hucksters too) but every major city has a least a handful of black preacher who are known for their flashy dress and cars while preaching to poor congregations. Jesse Jackson got his son control of distribution of Budweiser outside of Chicago as just one example of graft where black ‘leaders’ get rich off of poisoning the people they claim to care about most.
Anyway Tony Williams was never totally trusted because he was a light skinned, from California, Ivy League-educated and sounded whiter in normal speech than I do. He maintained but did not expand the vast city workforce that Marion Barry created and welcomed development/gentrification. His successor, a mixed race DC native tried to keep economic development going while bringing in Michelle Rhee to reform the city’s awful public schools and that was his undoing (aside from being an enthusiast in the extremely white sport of cycling) – no matter that a huge share of DC public school teachers lived in Maryland, the fact that he brought in an Asian who promised to fire a bunch of black ladies became a racial mess and that was that.
The thing that was driven home time and time again living in a black DC neighborhood is that they will put up with massive levels of violence, featherbedding, disorder, and corruption so long as it’s their own people doing it. This is why every city or organization that becomes controlled by the black political machine is absolutely doomed.
Funny, she wound up hanging off the schlong of that black NBA player turned scandal-prone mayor (of Sacramento), Kevin Johnson.Replies: @Arclight
https://www.theonion.com/coca-cola-introduces-new-30-liter-size-1819564066
Thanks for the laugh, man.
OT – Nothing to see here:
Happens all the time.
You’d have to go back to 1971 for an NFL player who had a heart attack on the field:
https://richmond.com/sports/professional/5-other-on-field-medical-emergencies-in-nfl-history/article_8982154f-4053-53ec-bfe9-615b3e90f2e7.html
Monday Night Football ……………………………… brought to you by Pfizer
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https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/24/nyregion/fight-over-bloombergs-soda-ban-reaches-courtroom.html
Check out the above links.
"Civil Rights" groups are increasingly becoming grift operations.Replies: @Art Deco, @Barnard, @Ben Kurtz
Civil Rights groups have been shakedown and grift operations since their inception. The problems they are having is that this has become more obvious and the rhetoric is having to get more ridiculous to keep the grift going. Convincing blacks to embrace eternal victimhood is the only thing keeping them going.
Whatever the (mostly negative) merits of the two products, soft drinks have managed to avoid the fate of cigarettes, which were yanked with shocking speed from TV and other media in the early 70s after that one Surgeon General’s Report led to an uproar. Big Cola may have decided right then that that’s not gonna happen to us.
Not just the ads, but up until that point many TV characters smoked regularly (except on Star Trek, of course). Then all of a sudden Phelps would no longer light up as he selected that week’s Impossible Missions Force, and Mannix actually tells Peggy he’s trying to quit. It was amazing how the media distanced themselves from one of their biggest revenue streams
If the story is true, of course.Replies: @JR Ewing
I have a very close friend from college – white guy from the south, way more than 2.1 kids, Trump voter, married to the same woman f0r more than 20 years now – who went to work at a series of startups that kept getting acquired until he finally ended up employed at one of the MAJOR tech companies. He has never struck me as someone who would have lasted long there, especially considering the amount of money he has made along the way, but he is a senior manager there and fairly high up at this point.
We were talking recently and he was telling me a similar story, that a very large portion of the rank and file workers at his tech company don’t believe in the woke BS at all and just endure it and find ways to avoid it as much as possible. He said it even goes so far that during the mandatory
struggle sessions“sensitivity training”, all of his coworkers only pretend to participate when the Angry Black Lady is watching them and the rest of the time they are laughing about it and talking about other topics.I really do think our culture is controlled by a tiny minority of ideological people who have power because more normal people are too polite or scared of losing their jobs to tell them to shut up.
I’m not sure if my friend is in the first group or the latter, or maybe it’s both.
He's rich and powerful enough to speak out and stop this, or at least leave under protest, but he dutifully nods his head, repeats the Marxist nonsense, and collects his check.
Cowards like your friend are exactly how we got here.Replies: @JR Ewing
Sounds like the majority at your friend’s company is indifferent or opposed to the woke stuff but don’t want to rock the boat.
Unfortunately, a passionate minority will beat a majority that just wants to be left alone.
not to mention sugar is the cause of the majority of all dental issues.
If it was Kevin Williamson writing about “bad whites”, then you can be pretty sure i’ts a lie.
I recall his description of a Trump rally in 2016: It was nothing like the Trump rally I went to. He described a bunch of gap-tooth hillbilly racists. All I saw was nice middle-class whites, most probably college educated, like myself. The anti-Trump protestors were shaggy noisy scum. No word from Williamson about them.
After that, I began to notice all kinds of whoppers in his writings. Fraud. Phony. Bum.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/Replies: @Old Prude
https://twitter.com/calleymeans/status/1609929033399283712
It's unfortunate to see how easy it is to bribe leading authority figures in the USA. I wonder why bribery and corruption are so pervasive at the top. Is it because American society has become so comically greedy that the mentality is to make money at any cost? Is it because the competition for elite jobs is so extreme that typically only the unscrupulous get to the top? Is it because individuals from relatively less ethical groups (Jews, Blacks, Asians, Indians, Muslims, Eastern Euros, Cubans, Armenians, Ellis Islanders, etc.) are well-represented in elite occupations?Replies: @JohnnyWalker123, @PhysicistDave, @Jack D
This actually has some resonance in 3rd world countries – if you look at a place like India, people who are poor tend to be very scrawny and if they could afford to drink a 6 oz. bottle of soda every day it might help them to be less underweight (btw 6 fluid oz. was the volume of the traditional bottle of Coke).
But in America it’s ridiculous. However it goes with the whole crazy “hunger in America” nonsense. If you visit the ghettoes of America there are a lot of problems but lack of calories isn’t one of them. There is a huge government and non-profit structure that is pushing MORE food into American ghettos but hardly anyone that is invested in people consuming LESS food.
Do these people ever look at their fellow citizens?
Local government here decided giving away free milk to the “homeless” was a good idea. The bums poured out the milk in the parking lot to redeem the bottles for cash.
My friend ran the local dairy, When the supermarket called in a panic “They’re dumping the milk in the parking lot!”, he replied “My God! I’ll send some more over, RIGHT AWAY!”
In the 19th century, Abolitionists used to advocate for maple sugar because it was made without slave labor, but it was never cost competitive vs. cane sugar.
Slavery is no longer a factor but the US is not cost competitive in sugar production. If we had stayed just with cane sugar, eventually the trade barriers would have been lowered and we would have come to rely on imported sugar. Overseas industries don’t have political clout and restricting sugar imports would have been a political winner.
However, modern chemists figured out a way to convert the starch in corn to a form of sugar (“high fructose corn syrup”) which is particularly well suited for use in soft drinks because it is already in liquid form. The corn that we consume is 100% US grown. The US is a world leader in corn production and bring corn to America is like coals to Newcastle. The sugar lobby is nothing compared to the corn lobby.
But the really important thing is that we don't allow people to exploit this event to cast doubt on the safety and effectiveness of the vaxx. If Hamlin hadn't been vaccinated his eventual case of covid could have been slightly worse. So let's keep things in perspective.Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @R.G. Camara, @TWS, @Jack D, @Veteran Aryan, @International Jew
We’ll see more of suddenly but you know it’s normal. Beneficial even and it’s caused by electrical impulses getting crossed not clots.
In fact, climate change causes a whole host of problems including heart, birth defects and miscarriage.
Definitely not the clot shot.
Michelle Rhee-I remember her. She was useless-and, as you mention, was frozen out of the loop since negroes won’t listen to any non-negro who dares to criticize them.
Funny, she wound up hanging off the schlong of that black NBA player turned scandal-prone mayor (of Sacramento), Kevin Johnson.
In contrast, Rhee was all about accountability and bluntly stated that a huge share of the school system's employees were incompetents that needed to be fired. Threatening the easy livelihoods of thousands of blacks in a black-dominated city was intolerable and absolutely doomed to failure because many would never find employment again and also would be replaced by people of a different racial background.
Ironically, a lot of this fear of a Great Replacement was totally accurate with the black share of the population being nearly cut in half over the last 50 years. Unlike white concerns about demographic change and loss of political clout this is treated as an awful tragedy and efforts have been made to ameliorate it.Replies: @PeterIke
Def Leppard definitely racist, but an early pioneer in not being ableist. One handed drummers of the world unite.
Brown Sugar is racist:
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rolling-stones-stop-performing-song-accused-of-racism
This is supposed to be “news” in 2023?
The sort of news as in “the sun continues to rise in the East”?
I’m guessing they used disparate impact, like more blacks like menthol cigarettes so banning them is rayceeest.
…..and high fructose corn syrup is even worse (and cheaper)……better read labels, it’s in everything ……..one could get the feeling someone want’s us sick and dieing.
I walked past a NY methadone clinic once when that was being doled out as “treatment” for junkies. A dozen of them were out on the street, offering to sell their dose to raise money — for real drugs, I’d guess.
Funny, she wound up hanging off the schlong of that black NBA player turned scandal-prone mayor (of Sacramento), Kevin Johnson.Replies: @Arclight
While I appreciated her hatred of teachers unions and mediocrity, she was a bad fit from a personality and approach standpoint. The problem with cities like DC is that the point of the government is to provide loads of make-work jobs, which is a mechanism to redistribute wealth away from the white minority to the black majority. The idea that public employees have a duty to actually accomplish things and should be held accountable to the stated goals of their departments is totally alien.
In contrast, Rhee was all about accountability and bluntly stated that a huge share of the school system’s employees were incompetents that needed to be fired. Threatening the easy livelihoods of thousands of blacks in a black-dominated city was intolerable and absolutely doomed to failure because many would never find employment again and also would be replaced by people of a different racial background.
Ironically, a lot of this fear of a Great Replacement was totally accurate with the black share of the population being nearly cut in half over the last 50 years. Unlike white concerns about demographic change and loss of political clout this is treated as an awful tragedy and efforts have been made to ameliorate it.
So when you get that feeling "why does it seem like there are blacks everywhere I go?" the answer is "because there are." But because our immigration policies are insane and we let in millions on non-black non-whites every year, blacks stay around the same percentage. Saying "blacks are still 14% of the population and have been for years" makes it sound like their numbers are stable. They are not.Replies: @Arclight
I have said it before, and I will say it again.
America is a poorly run fascist country with a fantastic PR machine that spreads its bullshitvabout how wonderful it is all over the world.
Almost all charities are scams, and almost all do-gooder organizations are frauds. The SPLC comes to mind right off the bat.
How much longer we’re going to be allowed to discuss this on a semi-public forum is questionable.
Steve, do you scrape this site regularly and backup everything, including comments?
And can I get a full archive of your original Steve site? I’ll gladly pay well for it. It will be nice to have that after we’re all shut down.
Strivers, part of the updated boosters vs. wise guys pairing.
The missing word in the sugar story is Fanjul. You’ve all consumed their product over the decades. Many pols have taken their packets and those of their lobbyists. Look them up.
But the really important thing is that we don't allow people to exploit this event to cast doubt on the safety and effectiveness of the vaxx. If Hamlin hadn't been vaccinated his eventual case of covid could have been slightly worse. So let's keep things in perspective.Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @R.G. Camara, @TWS, @Jack D, @Veteran Aryan, @International Jew
If the vaccine causes heart attacks and the Bills are 100% vaccinated, why didn’t all of them drop dead of heart attacks?
There are now 263 million people or 79% of the US population that have received at least one dose of the Covid vaccine. Many of these 263 million people are going to drop dead from various causes from now on. (Hamlin BTW is still alive). The fact that any given vaccinated individual drops dead neither proves nor disproves that the vaccine kills you. In fact it doesn’t prove anything at all and the fact that you think that it does only shows the depth of your ignorance and total lack of understanding of science and statistics.
By the way, not only have the harms of the vaccines been categorically proven by statistical evidence, we are now also beginning to understand the mechanisms of action that cause the harm. But keep saying "safe and effective" while "unexpected" deaths skyrocket.Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke
Yes – it’s a Nubian.
You have this backwards. BECAUSE blacks like menthol cigarettes and cigarettes kill people. menthol cigarettes MUST be banned because they especially kill black people. If white people especially liked menthol cigarettes, then there would be no reason to ban them.
https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2022/fda-proposes-rule-prohibiting-menthol-cigarettes
Are you kidding me? It’s the TAX on imbibibles from the modern Democrats that’s the REALY grift operation here in America. A way to raise money so that the Lefties can give money to their buddies so they can claim “We are for the People!” FU kiddies we got your money.
Don’t believe me? Purchased some pop this week. In addition to the AMAZING 10.25% Chicago sales tax, there’s a 3% soft drink tax, so we pay 13.25% on pop. And you can’t even escape that 10% tax if you order from China!
And then there’s the plastic shopping bag tax for bags that were previously FREE to shoppers. 7 cents for a bag: 2 cents for the store that covers the cost of the bag and 5 cents for the City of Chicago to give to their Democrat riff-raff.
And then there’s the special 1% restaurant Chicago Loop tax allegedly for picking up fast food litter… ha ha, how many years since you’ve seen a city employee Downtown picking up the fast food litter?
struggle sessions"sensitivity training", all of his coworkers only pretend to participate when the Angry Black Lady is watching them and the rest of the time they are laughing about it and talking about other topics. I really do think our culture is controlled by a tiny minority of ideological people who have power because more normal people are too polite or scared of losing their jobs to tell them to shut up. I'm not sure if my friend is in the first group or the latter, or maybe it's both.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @CornYour buddy is an asshole and not your friend. He tells you what you need to hear and tells them what they need to hear.
He’s rich and powerful enough to speak out and stop this, or at least leave under protest, but he dutifully nods his head, repeats the Marxist nonsense, and collects his check.
Cowards like your friend are exactly how we got here.
In contrast, Rhee was all about accountability and bluntly stated that a huge share of the school system's employees were incompetents that needed to be fired. Threatening the easy livelihoods of thousands of blacks in a black-dominated city was intolerable and absolutely doomed to failure because many would never find employment again and also would be replaced by people of a different racial background.
Ironically, a lot of this fear of a Great Replacement was totally accurate with the black share of the population being nearly cut in half over the last 50 years. Unlike white concerns about demographic change and loss of political clout this is treated as an awful tragedy and efforts have been made to ameliorate it.Replies: @PeterIke
Yes, but a meaningless statistic. The fact is there are more total blacks in America than ever before. To quote Pew:
10 million more blacks in nine years.
So when you get that feeling “why does it seem like there are blacks everywhere I go?” the answer is “because there are.” But because our immigration policies are insane and we let in millions on non-black non-whites every year, blacks stay around the same percentage. Saying “blacks are still 14% of the population and have been for years” makes it sound like their numbers are stable. They are not.
As Steve has noted, one of the big effects of urban renewal over the last 20-25 years has been to shove blacks out of a lot of desirable real estate. The flipside is close in suburbs have gotten a lot more diverse and have big city problems that largely didn't exist for them a generation ago. A small suburban community near my city that was very white even 10 years ago had a fatal bus stop shooting this fall - you can guess the demo of the perpetrator and victim.
There are now 263 million people or 79% of the US population that have received at least one dose of the Covid vaccine. Many of these 263 million people are going to drop dead from various causes from now on. (Hamlin BTW is still alive). The fact that any given vaccinated individual drops dead neither proves nor disproves that the vaccine kills you. In fact it doesn't prove anything at all and the fact that you think that it does only shows the depth of your ignorance and total lack of understanding of science and statistics.Replies: @PeterIke, @Hypnotoad666
Yet strangely, more young people are dying from heart disease than ever before, and heart damage rates are off the charts. Hmmmm. Climate change I guess. Must be also why we’re seeing so many cases of highly accelerated cancers.
Lol! Anything to protect the Jew Jabs, right Jack?
By the way, not only have the harms of the vaccines been categorically proven by statistical evidence, we are now also beginning to understand the mechanisms of action that cause the harm. But keep saying “safe and effective” while “unexpected” deaths skyrocket.
Yes, Mr. P, that's right. All God fearing, Jew hating white Christians should avoid the Jew Jab. Especially if you are elderly. Also make sure you never wear a mask.Replies: @Anonymous
This sort of stuff--full epidemiological data so we can really look break this down and easily compare like to like and figure out "what works" and "is there a problem here", is of course what the CDC should be doing. Unfortunately ... that's not our CDC.Replies: @Bill Jones, @Mike Tre
I'll hold up Jews for criticism on their evil ideological pathologies--minoritarianism in general and their "must have immigration!" insanity. Especially since the American Jewish establishment proudly embraces precisely this toxic, genocidal, anti-white crap as "Jewish values".
But vaccines ... I'm claiming them for my people. People--I think pretty much all over the civilized world--have tried primitive "exposure" vaccination for centuries. But the ball really got rolling with Jenner, cowpox and vaccina.
A couple of Jewish guys--Salk (the hustler) and Sabin (the good-neighbor) were huge on the polio thing when I was kid. Thanks guys!
But the #1 vaccine inventor in human history is Hilleman--a Germanic background, flyover Montana gentile (Lutheran) farm boy.
Vaccines--however flawed the Covid ones may be or not be--are a huge win for humanity and I'm claiming them as yet another W for team white-gentile.Replies: @Jack D
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/business/biontech-covid-vaccine.htmlReplies: @HammerJack, @Veteran Aryan
struggle sessions"sensitivity training", all of his coworkers only pretend to participate when the Angry Black Lady is watching them and the rest of the time they are laughing about it and talking about other topics. I really do think our culture is controlled by a tiny minority of ideological people who have power because more normal people are too polite or scared of losing their jobs to tell them to shut up. I'm not sure if my friend is in the first group or the latter, or maybe it's both.Replies: @R.G. Camara, @Cornhttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abilene_paradox
Sounds like the majority at your friend’s company is indifferent or opposed to the woke stuff but don’t want to rock the boat.
Unfortunately, a passionate minority will beat a majority that just wants to be left alone.
But the really important thing is that we don't allow people to exploit this event to cast doubt on the safety and effectiveness of the vaxx. If Hamlin hadn't been vaccinated his eventual case of covid could have been slightly worse. So let's keep things in perspective.Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @R.G. Camara, @TWS, @Jack D, @Veteran Aryan, @International Jew
The prestige media is rushing to get doctors on TV to explain to the rubes that what actually happened is a case of the exceedingly rare commotio cordis. Don’t know if having an inflamed heart makes the condition more likely. The reality is that we’ll never know for sure unless he dies and has an autopsy. Even then, it would be covered up. But that’s pretty unlikely since he was young and healthy and got immediate medical attention.
I died once for a few minutes, but I was in intensive care at the time so doctors were right in the room with me when it happened. Pulmonary embolism. Gotta say, even with immediate medical attention it was a pretty rough go. Felt like I had a few dozen fishhooks in my right lung, and someone was standing on my shoulders trying to yank them out. Do not recommend.
But in America it's ridiculous. However it goes with the whole crazy "hunger in America" nonsense. If you visit the ghettoes of America there are a lot of problems but lack of calories isn't one of them. There is a huge government and non-profit structure that is pushing MORE food into American ghettos but hardly anyone that is invested in people consuming LESS food.Replies: @Corn
I would almost argue that in this era of EBT cards hunger in America is mostly confined to children neglected by abusive parents and perhaps the homeless. Yet judging by Reddit and liberal Twitter, hunger—ahem, food insecurity is rife in America.
Do these people ever look at their fellow citizens?
There are now 263 million people or 79% of the US population that have received at least one dose of the Covid vaccine. Many of these 263 million people are going to drop dead from various causes from now on. (Hamlin BTW is still alive). The fact that any given vaccinated individual drops dead neither proves nor disproves that the vaccine kills you. In fact it doesn't prove anything at all and the fact that you think that it does only shows the depth of your ignorance and total lack of understanding of science and statistics.Replies: @PeterIke, @Hypnotoad666
No NFL player ever died of covid, so I guess by your logic means covid has a 0% fatality rate and should have been ignored. This is pretty lame, Jack.
That’s interesting, because the covid hysterics counted every individual who dropped dead after (maybe) getting covid as proof that covid killed them. But you know about statistics, so I guess that was really smart then.
Well, the rate of heart attacks in non-mrna dosed players has been 0/50,000 or so, the rate of heart attacks in vaxxed players is now approximately 1/1000. A guy named Bayes thinks that should affect your estimates of how healthy it is to have a vaxxed heart while engaging in athletics. (Incidentally, that’s a much bigger outcome difference than they found in the Pfizer clinical trials — which showed zero actual health outcome benefits).
On the other hand, more recently:
The fact that people like you are pushing dangerous sh*t into the bodies of healthy children and young adults with a statistical 0% risk of covid death “shows the depth of your ignorance and total lack of understanding of science and statistics.”
Do you know what Damar Hamlin got hit with a lot more recently than the vax? He got hit with a blow to his chest during a collision with a receiver on the opposing team shortly before he collapsed. This, and not a tiny little shot that was excreted from his body months ago, is probably what caused him to collapse according to doctors. But pinning it on a hit to the chest wouldn't suit your agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/health/damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest-arrhythmia.htmlReplies: @Jim Don Bob, @AnotherDad, @Bonny, @Anon, @Hypnotoad666
Ben tillman wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighting_words
https://freespeech.fandom.com/wiki/Fighting_words
etc.
So when you get that feeling "why does it seem like there are blacks everywhere I go?" the answer is "because there are." But because our immigration policies are insane and we let in millions on non-black non-whites every year, blacks stay around the same percentage. Saying "blacks are still 14% of the population and have been for years" makes it sound like their numbers are stable. They are not.Replies: @Arclight
I was actually referring to DC’s black population – when I first lived in DC they made up well over 60% of the population and are now down to about 40%. Many blacks used to speak of “The Plan” which was a conspiracy to move them out so whites would once again control the city…and although they still have substantial political clout their numbers continue to decline while other groups grow so it kind of actually happened with about 100K blacks moving out over 30 years or so.
As Steve has noted, one of the big effects of urban renewal over the last 20-25 years has been to shove blacks out of a lot of desirable real estate. The flipside is close in suburbs have gotten a lot more diverse and have big city problems that largely didn’t exist for them a generation ago. A small suburban community near my city that was very white even 10 years ago had a fatal bus stop shooting this fall – you can guess the demo of the perpetrator and victim.
By the way, not only have the harms of the vaccines been categorically proven by statistical evidence, we are now also beginning to understand the mechanisms of action that cause the harm. But keep saying "safe and effective" while "unexpected" deaths skyrocket.Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke
That’s a new one. You should trademark that, maybe even get a shirt printed – “No Jew Jabs in Me!”
Yes, Mr. P, that’s right. All God fearing, Jew hating white Christians should avoid the Jew Jab. Especially if you are elderly. Also make sure you never wear a mask.
He says he doesn't dislike Jews, only "Jewish thinking," however he defines that.
By the way, not only have the harms of the vaccines been categorically proven by statistical evidence, we are now also beginning to understand the mechanisms of action that cause the harm. But keep saying "safe and effective" while "unexpected" deaths skyrocket.Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke
Links? Good ones, not internet nonsense.
One of the obviously useless/bogus deals is the “more of the vaxxed are dying” kind of thing. That’s a given. That simplistic stuff is the anti-vax version of BLM style nonsense. Just like blacks are way way more involved in violent crime than other folks, the vaxxed will skew heavily old, and in any given age bracket will skew to the people who are less healthy (obese, diabetes, cancer survivors, immuno-compromised, etc.). So relative to the whole population the vaxxed should be dying more, just like the cops should be killing blacks more.
The other necessary thing it has to be “compared to what?” Specifically, the real comparison is getting Covid without the vax. In simple terms you want to compare like to like. Given me say “healthy 50 year olds” and then the buckets “got the vax in the spring ’21” and “remained un-vaxxed”. See those death rates. Then those need to be split into “got Covid” and “didn’t get Covid”.
My general take here is that the Fauci virus definitely attacks vascular tissues and seems to cause some serious problems–even beyond the immediate infection–in some small minority of the population. I’m quite willing to believe that turning people’s cells into little spike protein factories for a day or two is indeed quite negative and knocking a bunch of people over the edge. However, getting a Covid infection is the same thing–only more so, because your cells are hijacked to create a self-replicating virus (not just the spike) which goes on hijacking your cells turning out copies of itself until your immune system can kill it off. So billions more copies and running on for much longer.
In the absence of Covid being endemic getting the vax would be nuts. But if–as I do–one assumes that eventually everyone is going to get it (be exposed have the body’s immune system fight it off)–like the flu–then the question is getting it vaxxed or unvaxxed? And look at total health return–immediate in wake of vax and/or infection and long term.
So far, the only credible thing I’ve seen is the myocarditis in young men. That seems to be a few times worse with the vax then it is getting Covid cold (unvaxxed). It is–my understanding–mostly recovered from. But it’s a good argument for young men not getting vaxxed, especially if they’ve had Covid already. (My son and prospectively son-in-law–both fit young men–already had the Fauci, before the vax was out, so I think unwise for them to get vaxxed.)
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The final thing is mechanism? Why would the vax be worse than Covid infection itself? That’s would seemingly have to be either quantity or quality issue. Quantity would seem to be off the table. And actual Covid infection would hijack way way more of your cells for much much longer as it is self-replicating. So the culprit seemingly would have to be something about either having the spike “unmoored” from the virus? Or the nature of the spike stabilization itself? (And would suggest the benefit of a whole–killed or disabled–virus vax as preferred.)
This sort of stuff–full epidemiological data so we can really look break this down and easily compare like to like and figure out “what works” and “is there a problem here”, is of course what the CDC should be doing. Unfortunately … that’s not our CDC.
It's impact is in no way limited or related to that of covid.It is not efficacious, it is not safe, it does not prevent transmission and it is not a vaccine. Here's a clue, if you have to redefine a word, you're lying.
Talk to any "Liberal".Replies: @Nico
Slavery was introduced to America from Africa.
It was unknown in England since the 1100’s. Even the Church forbade it in about 1205.
I recall his description of a Trump rally in 2016: It was nothing like the Trump rally I went to. He described a bunch of gap-tooth hillbilly racists. All I saw was nice middle-class whites, most probably college educated, like myself. The anti-Trump protestors were shaggy noisy scum. No word from Williamson about them.
After that, I began to notice all kinds of whoppers in his writings. Fraud. Phony. Bum.Replies: @Jim Don Bob
Here is KW’s story from 2013.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/
Well now you are moving the goal posts. You are still wrong, but at least you are talking about statistical evidence and not trying to make a mountain out of a molehill of a single anecdote.
Do you know what Damar Hamlin got hit with a lot more recently than the vax? He got hit with a blow to his chest during a collision with a receiver on the opposing team shortly before he collapsed. This, and not a tiny little shot that was excreted from his body months ago, is probably what caused him to collapse according to doctors. But pinning it on a hit to the chest wouldn’t suit your agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/health/damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest-arrhythmia.html
On Damar Hamlin, mRNA shots, and spin.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/on-damar-hamlin-mrna-shots-and-spinReplies: @Jack D, @Jack D
There absolutely no reason we shouldn't have a public searchable database that containing the data for everyone dying, hospitalized, having some non-hospitalized reaction, testing positive for covid (or for that matter the flu, etc.).
Researchers should be able to just zip through this thing and see the effect of the vaccine on deaths, hospitalizations, or any particular pathology (myocarditis) for any particular demographic slice. As well as other questions like heart attacks and cancer and obesity. Or breast cancer and childbirth vs. abortion. Etc. etc. etc. Instead, researchers have to try and find ways to pull together a sample and find ways to get proper controls and make it representative--with very mixed success and confidence.
This is the basic stuff that is one of the few advantages of having a hulking 4 trillion dollar/year government. Hey, it can collect data and from that data you can answer questions that you can't answer from anecdote. Whether it's cops shooting people, or blacks shooting people, or people getting fat, or covid vaccines.
But we pay our 4 trillion and diddly.Replies: @PhysicistDave
It may surprise you to learn that in American football hundreds of collisions occur every game! It can be a very entertaining game, although I admit there are quite a few ads. Check it out some time!Replies: @Jack D
But I love how it's wrong to jump to medical conclusions . . . except when our nation's leading purveyor of disinformation and propaganda does it.Replies: @Jack D
By the way, not only have the harms of the vaccines been categorically proven by statistical evidence, we are now also beginning to understand the mechanisms of action that cause the harm. But keep saying "safe and effective" while "unexpected" deaths skyrocket.Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke
BTW, I’m with Jack on your “Jew Jabs” thing–lame.
I’ll hold up Jews for criticism on their evil ideological pathologies–minoritarianism in general and their “must have immigration!” insanity. Especially since the American Jewish establishment proudly embraces precisely this toxic, genocidal, anti-white crap as “Jewish values”.
But vaccines … I’m claiming them for my people. People–I think pretty much all over the civilized world–have tried primitive “exposure” vaccination for centuries. But the ball really got rolling with Jenner, cowpox and vaccina.
A couple of Jewish guys–Salk (the hustler) and Sabin (the good-neighbor) were huge on the polio thing when I was kid. Thanks guys!
But the #1 vaccine inventor in human history is Hilleman–a Germanic background, flyover Montana gentile (Lutheran) farm boy.
Vaccines–however flawed the Covid ones may be or not be–are a huge win for humanity and I’m claiming them as yet another W for team white-gentile.
This sort of stuff--full epidemiological data so we can really look break this down and easily compare like to like and figure out "what works" and "is there a problem here", is of course what the CDC should be doing. Unfortunately ... that's not our CDC.Replies: @Bill Jones, @Mike Tre
Why the question? The vax is not a vax, it is unrelated to Covid, it is totally new “gene therapy” it is not an attenuated version of the virus which is what the definition of a vaccination was before it was “redefined”.
It’s impact is in no way limited or related to that of covid.
It is not efficacious, it is not safe, it does not prevent transmission and it is not a vaccine.
Here’s a clue, if you have to redefine a word, you’re lying.
Talk to any “Liberal”.
And if you’re going to get technical you could say that nothing without a live cowpox virus should ever be called a “vaccine.” Early methods of smallpox inoculation included live smallpox viruses and the practice was aptly called “variolation.”
That said I will grant that COVID mRNA inoculations (if you don’t like the term “vaccine”) are new technology encapsulated in new technology and that this alone should have been enough to shut down the blackmail (“vaccine” mandates). Even so, I’ve yet to hear a full-on, blanket “HARMFUL!” argument that sounded biochemically literate.
I'll hold up Jews for criticism on their evil ideological pathologies--minoritarianism in general and their "must have immigration!" insanity. Especially since the American Jewish establishment proudly embraces precisely this toxic, genocidal, anti-white crap as "Jewish values".
But vaccines ... I'm claiming them for my people. People--I think pretty much all over the civilized world--have tried primitive "exposure" vaccination for centuries. But the ball really got rolling with Jenner, cowpox and vaccina.
A couple of Jewish guys--Salk (the hustler) and Sabin (the good-neighbor) were huge on the polio thing when I was kid. Thanks guys!
But the #1 vaccine inventor in human history is Hilleman--a Germanic background, flyover Montana gentile (Lutheran) farm boy.
Vaccines--however flawed the Covid ones may be or not be--are a huge win for humanity and I'm claiming them as yet another W for team white-gentile.Replies: @Jack D
Nope, nope. I gotta agree with Peter on this. All vaccines, not just the Covid vax, are a Jew conspiracy ( did you know that vaxes turn you gay, BTW?) so all proper Jew haters should stay away from all vaccines. Make sure your kids don’t get them either. Just tell them that vaccines are against your religion.
Yes. JJ Jr. who was a congressman for a while until he got busted for some fairly brazen corruption and is/was doing some federal time.
Too stupid to realize that a Bud distributorship is a license to print money and all he needed was a white guy to run it. Dad had some fake charity (Operation Push, IIRC) that got lots of federal grants to help the brothers blah blah blah.
My favorite piece of hypocrisy from JJ was him “preaching” with BJC at the height of the Monica mess. Soon thereafter it was revealed that JJ had a love child.
snippy D still thinks that mutilating the genitals of infant boys is backed by science.
This sort of stuff--full epidemiological data so we can really look break this down and easily compare like to like and figure out "what works" and "is there a problem here", is of course what the CDC should be doing. Unfortunately ... that's not our CDC.Replies: @Bill Jones, @Mike Tre
sometimes i think you should change your handle to anotherjackd
Well, did Coke's plan work? Let's have a list of Coke's opponents who are considered racist. Pepsi? Big Milk (the dairy industry)? RC Cola? Fanta?Replies: @Larry, San Francisco, @Peter Akuleyev, @Ben Kurtz
Whole Milk is Racist.
Coke’s scheme worked.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/milk-white-supremacy-racism_n_5bffad35e4b0864f4f6a3e28
"Sugary drinks are one of the top causes of obesity and diabetes."
But let us express our freedom and drink a hundred thousand big gulps and then charge up the taxpayer for all your hospitalizations.
It's freedom! FREEDOMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!Replies: @AndrewR
Bingo. Selling these drinks at all is evil. So why would anyone be surprised that they’d pay race hustlers to cry racism?
https://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/24/nyregion/fight-over-bloombergs-soda-ban-reaches-courtroom.html
Check out the above links.
"Civil Rights" groups are increasingly becoming grift operations.Replies: @Art Deco, @Barnard, @Ben Kurtz
“Becoming,” kemosabe?
[Cue up the”always has been” meme.]
He's rich and powerful enough to speak out and stop this, or at least leave under protest, but he dutifully nods his head, repeats the Marxist nonsense, and collects his check.
Cowards like your friend are exactly how we got here.Replies: @JR Ewing
I wouldn’t go so far as to say he’s not my friend, but I do agree with the cowardly label.
Do you know what Damar Hamlin got hit with a lot more recently than the vax? He got hit with a blow to his chest during a collision with a receiver on the opposing team shortly before he collapsed. This, and not a tiny little shot that was excreted from his body months ago, is probably what caused him to collapse according to doctors. But pinning it on a hit to the chest wouldn't suit your agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/health/damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest-arrhythmia.htmlReplies: @Jim Don Bob, @AnotherDad, @Bonny, @Anon, @Hypnotoad666
Alex Berenson demolishes the “hit in the chest” argument here.
On Damar Hamlin, mRNA shots, and spin.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/on-damar-hamlin-mrna-shots-and-spin
Do you know what Damar Hamlin got hit with a lot more recently than the vax? He got hit with a blow to his chest during a collision with a receiver on the opposing team shortly before he collapsed. This, and not a tiny little shot that was excreted from his body months ago, is probably what caused him to collapse according to doctors. But pinning it on a hit to the chest wouldn't suit your agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/health/damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest-arrhythmia.htmlReplies: @Jim Don Bob, @AnotherDad, @Bonny, @Anon, @Hypnotoad666
A big problem here is that we don’t actually have the statistical evidence. Because the CDC–our establishment–just hasn’t done its job–for which thousands of bureaucrats are well paid.
There absolutely no reason we shouldn’t have a public searchable database that containing the data for everyone dying, hospitalized, having some non-hospitalized reaction, testing positive for covid (or for that matter the flu, etc.).
Researchers should be able to just zip through this thing and see the effect of the vaccine on deaths, hospitalizations, or any particular pathology (myocarditis) for any particular demographic slice. As well as other questions like heart attacks and cancer and obesity. Or breast cancer and childbirth vs. abortion. Etc. etc. etc. Instead, researchers have to try and find ways to pull together a sample and find ways to get proper controls and make it representative–with very mixed success and confidence.
This is the basic stuff that is one of the few advantages of having a hulking 4 trillion dollar/year government. Hey, it can collect data and from that data you can answer questions that you can’t answer from anecdote. Whether it’s cops shooting people, or blacks shooting people, or people getting fat, or covid vaccines.
But we pay our 4 trillion and diddly.
But it does not work.
I do not think I have mentioned this before, but I had a stroke 27 hours after getting the first Covid shot.
I have a close family member who is a physician who tried to report this on the VAERS system. It took this family member hours to get the system to accept the report. We are still not sure that my case was actually counted.
And this family member is a physician with nearly three decades in private practice.
Most people would not have been able to figure out how to make the report at all.
Please note: I am not claiming that I have proof that my stroke was caused by the Covid shot.
But my case should be part of the data taken into account. And the government makes it exceedingly difficult to make the report.
Jack D will claim that my case is just an "anecdote."
Yes, but the plural of "anecdote" is "data."
And the VAERS system makes it very difficult to acquire the needed data.
On Damar Hamlin, mRNA shots, and spin.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/on-damar-hamlin-mrna-shots-and-spinReplies: @Jack D, @Jack D
Please, the first rule of holes is to stop digging. This young man’s life hangs in the balance and you are trying to make hay out of his tragedy for your stupid pet cause. Have you no shame?
But I think the problem you describe is not only real, but also deeper than bribing government. When survival is at stake, nothing is off the table. Therefore, when government wields great power over your life or business, this leads to widespread corruption because the cost of failure is existential . The corruption includes not only government, but politics, and social norms. As we have seen, it's not just bribing the government, but bribing, corrupting, or perverting every conceivable institution and brainwashing every possible person. Republican government doesn't require Marquis of Queensbury rules, but there need to be some norms and limits on how the battles are fought.Replies: @PhysicistDave
Dr. DoomNGloom wrote to me:
Yeah.
A broader issue that I have been thinking about is that we have created a largely “zero-sum” society in which people’s goals — especially the goals of upper-middle-class young people — is to make it into a fixed number of positions.
Bright, ambitious kids have to shape their high-school experience to give them a shot at getting into one of the HYPS or at least one of the “public Ivies.” We have a fixed number of slots in law or med schools. And not everyone can become a DIE officer or a green consultant, or whatever.
It didn’t use to be this way. My great-grandmother, whom I knew quite well, was born on a farm. If you worked hard, and had good luck with the weather and with pests, you would have a good harvest. If your neighbor also had a good harvest, this did not diminish your harvest.
And being a skilled, manipulative bullshitter improved your harvest not a whit.
It’s not like that anymore.
Of course, there are still people who deal with physical reality: farmers, truck drivers, airplane mechanics, engineers, etc.
But, with the exception of some medical specialties, those are not the prestige occupations.
Those are the “Dirt People.”
Middle-class people aspire to their kids becoming “Cloud People,” people who make a living by using words to control and manipulate other people, guys like our friends Jack D., Corvinus, HA, et al.
And you become one of the successful “Cloud People” by showing your ability to play politics and manipulate other people, and, more often then not, by outright lying and cheating and engaging in illegal behavior (all of this is more common even among physicians than most people realize).
This ultimately goes back to governmental policies that create these positions or artificially limit access to these positions.
We have willfully created a situation in which the dominant class of our population is a “parasitic verbalist overvlass” that despises the ordinary people who make our material lives possible.
And all this horrifically warps people’s character and their lives, especially for young people.
It is no wonder that so many young people are engaging in self-harm, such as “cutting.”
This cannot go on forever.
And what cannot go on forever, won’t.
But the online persona presenting as Coronavirus is a moronic timewaster. If he's like that in real life, I doubt he's making much. And if he's paid to clog up the threads, they're not getting much for their money.
Your main point is spot-on though. Maybe 15 years ago we sat in our financial office and said "why aren't we working for people who make things - like maybe a car company?".
Then we all laughed - because we knew there was more money in the UK working on shuffling money and financial instruments around rather than physical objects.Replies: @PhysicistDave
There absolutely no reason we shouldn't have a public searchable database that containing the data for everyone dying, hospitalized, having some non-hospitalized reaction, testing positive for covid (or for that matter the flu, etc.).
Researchers should be able to just zip through this thing and see the effect of the vaccine on deaths, hospitalizations, or any particular pathology (myocarditis) for any particular demographic slice. As well as other questions like heart attacks and cancer and obesity. Or breast cancer and childbirth vs. abortion. Etc. etc. etc. Instead, researchers have to try and find ways to pull together a sample and find ways to get proper controls and make it representative--with very mixed success and confidence.
This is the basic stuff that is one of the few advantages of having a hulking 4 trillion dollar/year government. Hey, it can collect data and from that data you can answer questions that you can't answer from anecdote. Whether it's cops shooting people, or blacks shooting people, or people getting fat, or covid vaccines.
But we pay our 4 trillion and diddly.Replies: @PhysicistDave
AnotherDad wrote to Jack D:
Well, there is a reporting system — “VAERS.”
But it does not work.
I do not think I have mentioned this before, but I had a stroke 27 hours after getting the first Covid shot.
I have a close family member who is a physician who tried to report this on the VAERS system. It took this family member hours to get the system to accept the report. We are still not sure that my case was actually counted.
And this family member is a physician with nearly three decades in private practice.
Most people would not have been able to figure out how to make the report at all.
Please note: I am not claiming that I have proof that my stroke was caused by the Covid shot.
But my case should be part of the data taken into account. And the government makes it exceedingly difficult to make the report.
Jack D will claim that my case is just an “anecdote.”
Yes, but the plural of “anecdote” is “data.”
And the VAERS system makes it very difficult to acquire the needed data.
Do you know what Damar Hamlin got hit with a lot more recently than the vax? He got hit with a blow to his chest during a collision with a receiver on the opposing team shortly before he collapsed. This, and not a tiny little shot that was excreted from his body months ago, is probably what caused him to collapse according to doctors. But pinning it on a hit to the chest wouldn't suit your agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/health/damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest-arrhythmia.htmlReplies: @Jim Don Bob, @AnotherDad, @Bonny, @Anon, @Hypnotoad666
Hello Jack,
It may surprise you to learn that in American football hundreds of collisions occur every game! It can be a very entertaining game, although I admit there are quite a few ads. Check it out some time!
Does that mean fortunes descendant from sugar plantations are exempt from reparations?
But the really important thing is that we don't allow people to exploit this event to cast doubt on the safety and effectiveness of the vaxx. If Hamlin hadn't been vaccinated his eventual case of covid could have been slightly worse. So let's keep things in perspective.Replies: @Kim, @HammerJack, @R.G. Camara, @TWS, @Jack D, @Veteran Aryan, @International Jew
A lot of Football players are hopped up on amphetamines. Seems to me that’s a more likely culprit for his heart failure, than any Covid vaccine.
What, Coca-Cola isn’t black enough?
On Damar Hamlin, mRNA shots, and spin.
https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/on-damar-hamlin-mrna-shots-and-spinReplies: @Jack D, @Jack D
BTW, do you take us for idiots? Here is the video, judge for yourself. A seemingly healthy man (#3 in white) collides with another man, then 3 seconds later he collapses:
Is the cause of his collapse the hit he received 3 seconds ago or the vaccine he received 6 months ago?
The next time you slug someone in a barroom brawl, try telling the cop that the guy was knocked out because of the vax, not because you slugged him. Let us know how it turns out once you make bail.
there really is no limit to the depths of your dishonesty, or stupidity, or both.
there are literally hundreds of collisions like this or even more violent per game. find one other instance where this type of thing happened, precovid.
there really is no limit to the depths of your dishonesty, or stupidity, or both.
Was this when the NAACP was still mostly run by its Jewish founders?
I find it hard to believe that a nonprofit run by whites, even Jewish whites, would go along with such an overtly stated quod pro quo. It would be a major faux pas to state it so bluntly. You’d have to present it with a straight face with some sort of bullshit “research” about how blacks enjoy soda at their gatherings, so they’d have suitable ass covering and guilt assuaging.
Blacks on the other hand I can completely buy that you could just bribe them.
It may surprise you to learn that in American football hundreds of collisions occur every game! It can be a very entertaining game, although I admit there are quite a few ads. Check it out some time!Replies: @Jack D
I understand this. I also understand that 95% of NFL players have received the Covid vaccine and this guy was the only one who collapsed so far.
It was obviously a freak accident. According to medical authorities, if you get hit in the right spot at the exact right moment in your heartbeat, it can knock you into atrial fibrillation.
Does it make any sense at all to think that it’s a coincidence that the guy collapsed 3 seconds after getting hit but the Covid vaccine just happened to stop his heart at that moment even though he was vaccinated months ago? Look, I am used to people around here believing really stupid things, but that is especially stupid.
The Nazis were indeed anti-Vaxxers. It went hand in hand with their enthusiasm for all kinds of alternative/new age medicines/diets/treatments. Hippies with guns.
(I think Jello Biafra wrote a song about this.)
Do you know what Damar Hamlin got hit with a lot more recently than the vax? He got hit with a blow to his chest during a collision with a receiver on the opposing team shortly before he collapsed. This, and not a tiny little shot that was excreted from his body months ago, is probably what caused him to collapse according to doctors. But pinning it on a hit to the chest wouldn't suit your agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/health/damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest-arrhythmia.htmlReplies: @Jim Don Bob, @AnotherDad, @Bonny, @Anon, @Hypnotoad666
There’s a Wikipedia article about athletes who drop dead on the field, complete with a table of cases going back a couple of decades, and another table of a dozen kinds of cardiac problems that were implicated. To blame the vaccine you’d have a nontrivial bit of statistical and medical work to do to surface vax deaths from all these other deaths. By the way, one line of research is why a disproportionate number of the victims are blacks.
Yes, Mr. P, that's right. All God fearing, Jew hating white Christians should avoid the Jew Jab. Especially if you are elderly. Also make sure you never wear a mask.Replies: @Anonymous
“Jew Jab” is a favorite phrase of former Unz columnist Linh Dinh. I don’t know if he coined it, but he uses it all the time. He has a Substack blog and a Blogger blog, the latter mostly photos of his travels. PeterIke may have picked up the phrase from reading him.
He says he doesn’t dislike Jews, only “Jewish thinking,” however he defines that.
The new plastic bottle is nearly four feet tall, and weighs 274 pounds when filled with Coke. In development tests, it took an average of three men to lift the new bottle. The product will fit in an average refrigerator, but only when all other products and shelving have been removed.
Thanks for the laugh, man.
You'd have to go back to 1971 for an NFL player who had a heart attack on the field:
https://richmond.com/sports/professional/5-other-on-field-medical-emergencies-in-nfl-history/article_8982154f-4053-53ec-bfe9-615b3e90f2e7.html
Monday Night Football .................................... brought to you by Pfizer
https://endpts.com/pfizer-sacks-pharma-competition-in-early-nfl-tv-advertising-season/Replies: @duncsbaby
Tbh, I was at first more concerned that they stopped the actual game just ’cause the guy had to be rushed to the hospital. I then thought, nah, it’s not my NFL anymore, they have can their concern-frown shit-show for all I care.
By the way, not only have the harms of the vaccines been categorically proven by statistical evidence, we are now also beginning to understand the mechanisms of action that cause the harm. But keep saying "safe and effective" while "unexpected" deaths skyrocket.Replies: @Jack D, @AnotherDad, @AnotherDad, @Johann Ricke
Technically-speaking, the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine is a Turk Jab, given that the scientists responsible are a Turkish couple.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/business/biontech-covid-vaccine.html
The NYT won't tell you this because it gets in the way of their Narrative.
Or you could just go straight to blaming the vaccine like the anti-vaxxers did. That way you can instantly hijack a shocking tragedy for the benefit of your cause. No hard work needed.
It's impact is in no way limited or related to that of covid.It is not efficacious, it is not safe, it does not prevent transmission and it is not a vaccine. Here's a clue, if you have to redefine a word, you're lying.
Talk to any "Liberal".Replies: @Nico
Unrelated to COVID… that’s debatable. The mRNA is generated from an engineered plasmid DNA, yes, but if the sequencing were knowingly derived from COVID could it really be said to be “unrelated”?
And if you’re going to get technical you could say that nothing without a live cowpox virus should ever be called a “vaccine.” Early methods of smallpox inoculation included live smallpox viruses and the practice was aptly called “variolation.”
That said I will grant that COVID mRNA inoculations (if you don’t like the term “vaccine”) are new technology encapsulated in new technology and that this alone should have been enough to shut down the blackmail (“vaccine” mandates). Even so, I’ve yet to hear a full-on, blanket “HARMFUL!” argument that sounded biochemically literate.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2013/12/white-ghetto-kevin-d-williamson/Replies: @Old Prude
Thanks. I am sure I read it at the time. I was a long time subscriber to NR, thinking they were on my side. Then along came Trump and blew their cover. They really had me fooled.
Since you’re obviously claiming that myocarditis can’t be a contributing factor to commotio cordis, can you show us a link to support that? Or do you have the same level of evidence as the antivaxxers?
A broader issue that I have been thinking about is that we have created a largely "zero-sum" society in which people's goals -- especially the goals of upper-middle-class young people -- is to make it into a fixed number of positions.
Bright, ambitious kids have to shape their high-school experience to give them a shot at getting into one of the HYPS or at least one of the "public Ivies." We have a fixed number of slots in law or med schools. And not everyone can become a DIE officer or a green consultant, or whatever.
It didn't use to be this way. My great-grandmother, whom I knew quite well, was born on a farm. If you worked hard, and had good luck with the weather and with pests, you would have a good harvest. If your neighbor also had a good harvest, this did not diminish your harvest.
And being a skilled, manipulative bullshitter improved your harvest not a whit.
It's not like that anymore.
Of course, there are still people who deal with physical reality: farmers, truck drivers, airplane mechanics, engineers, etc.
But, with the exception of some medical specialties, those are not the prestige occupations.
Those are the "Dirt People."
Middle-class people aspire to their kids becoming "Cloud People," people who make a living by using words to control and manipulate other people, guys like our friends Jack D., Corvinus, HA, et al.
And you become one of the successful "Cloud People" by showing your ability to play politics and manipulate other people, and, more often then not, by outright lying and cheating and engaging in illegal behavior (all of this is more common even among physicians than most people realize).
This ultimately goes back to governmental policies that create these positions or artificially limit access to these positions.
We have willfully created a situation in which the dominant class of our population is a "parasitic verbalist overvlass" that despises the ordinary people who make our material lives possible.
And all this horrifically warps people's character and their lives, especially for young people.
It is no wonder that so many young people are engaging in self-harm, such as "cutting."
This cannot go on forever.
And what cannot go on forever, won't.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
Be fair. I can imagine Jack making money as a lawyer, he’s obviously pretty bright even if he has his ethnic hangups.
But the online persona presenting as Coronavirus is a moronic timewaster. If he’s like that in real life, I doubt he’s making much. And if he’s paid to clog up the threads, they’re not getting much for their money.
Your main point is spot-on though. Maybe 15 years ago we sat in our financial office and said “why aren’t we working for people who make things – like maybe a car company?”.
Then we all laughed – because we knew there was more money in the UK working on shuffling money and financial instruments around rather than physical objects.
But he is making a living somehow, and pretty clearly not as a farmer or auto mechanic. Farmers and mechanics don't -- can't! -- talk the way he does.
He has implied that he is an educrat of some sort -- perhaps a public-school bureaucrat, perhaps some sinecure in the testing industry.
Anyway, I am not claiming that parasites like these guys make more than they could make as plumbers but simply that they are indeed making a living as parasites.
At the expense of plumbers and other productive people.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
Between this and the goat commercial video, you guys made my day. I’m still smiling! Thanks.
I keep thinking packaged beef jerky would make a more convenient specie, but they must have their reasons.Replies: @Jim Don Bob, @Almost Missouri, @JR Ewing, @Achmed E. Newman
Perhaps that can be explained quite simply by Reactionary’s comment above.
But the biggest reason is even more obvious: if the government has an enormous amount of power, enough power to easily make or break your business, then you have a fiduciary obligation to influence the government by any means necessary to protect your stockholders.
Or in simpler language:
Big government is inevitably corrupt government.
Because it is really worth bribing big government.Replies: @Dr. DoomNGloom, @Achmed E. Newman
I am clean out of [Agree]s right now, but that is the essence of all of this. You are a true Libertarian, Dave. Whether you want to admit that around here or not is another story …
NBA HoFer John Stockton on vaccines:
Video Link
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/business/biontech-covid-vaccine.htmlReplies: @HammerJack, @Veteran Aryan
Correction: The (mostly German) scientists responsible worked for the Turkish couple.
The NYT won’t tell you this because it gets in the way of their Narrative.
Fighting words are spoken words. Your sources are ridiculous.
No. They are intended to insult the person to whom they are spoken, but by their nature they can be expected to result in a passionate, violent response.
No. That is completely unrelated to the concept of fighting words. Fighting words are insults that involve no one other than the speaker and the person to whom they are spoken. They do not put anyone in danger of harm. By their very nature hey cause harm to the person to whom they are spoken.
It is exactly as I recall from law school. From Black’s Law Dictionary (5th edition) (emphasis added):
Fighting words, which may constitutionally be prohibited, are words directed to the person of the HEARER which would have a tendency to cause acts of violence by the person to whom, individually, the remark is addressed.
Conchito v. City of Tulsa, 521 P. 2d 1384, 1388.
Fighting words, by their very utterance, inflict injury or tend to cite an immediate breach of the peace. Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire, 315 U.S. 568.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/business/biontech-covid-vaccine.htmlReplies: @HammerJack, @Veteran Aryan
I’m waiting for Mr. T’s vaccine to come out, the Jibba Jab.
Do you know what Damar Hamlin got hit with a lot more recently than the vax? He got hit with a blow to his chest during a collision with a receiver on the opposing team shortly before he collapsed. This, and not a tiny little shot that was excreted from his body months ago, is probably what caused him to collapse according to doctors. But pinning it on a hit to the chest wouldn't suit your agenda.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/health/damar-hamlin-cardiac-arrest-arrhythmia.htmlReplies: @Jim Don Bob, @AnotherDad, @Bonny, @Anon, @Hypnotoad666
New York Times says its “probably” not Vaxx related. Never saw that coming. LOL.
But I love how it’s wrong to jump to medical conclusions . . . except when our nation’s leading purveyor of disinformation and propaganda does it.
But the online persona presenting as Coronavirus is a moronic timewaster. If he's like that in real life, I doubt he's making much. And if he's paid to clog up the threads, they're not getting much for their money.
Your main point is spot-on though. Maybe 15 years ago we sat in our financial office and said "why aren't we working for people who make things - like maybe a car company?".
Then we all laughed - because we knew there was more money in the UK working on shuffling money and financial instruments around rather than physical objects.Replies: @PhysicistDave
YetAnotherAnon wrote to me:
Well, yeah.
But he is making a living somehow, and pretty clearly not as a farmer or auto mechanic. Farmers and mechanics don’t — can’t! — talk the way he does.
He has implied that he is an educrat of some sort — perhaps a public-school bureaucrat, perhaps some sinecure in the testing industry.
Anyway, I am not claiming that parasites like these guys make more than they could make as plumbers but simply that they are indeed making a living as parasites.
At the expense of plumbers and other productive people.
(A daughter had a politics A-level* teacher who would make a big thing about how unintelligent George W Bush was. I said to her - just think, if he'd been more intelligent he could have been a sixth form politics teacher!)* in UK, A-levels are the last leg of the school journey, taken aged 17-18. "O-levels", aged 15-16, determine whether you get an interview or offer from university, A-levels determine whether you in fact get in. Grade inflation has been massive over the years, both in schools and universities, so if a kid gets a first it's hard to know just how good that is. When I was at uni some courses would only award a first every couple of years.
But he is making a living somehow, and pretty clearly not as a farmer or auto mechanic. Farmers and mechanics don't -- can't! -- talk the way he does.
He has implied that he is an educrat of some sort -- perhaps a public-school bureaucrat, perhaps some sinecure in the testing industry.
Anyway, I am not claiming that parasites like these guys make more than they could make as plumbers but simply that they are indeed making a living as parasites.
At the expense of plumbers and other productive people.Replies: @YetAnotherAnon
I suppose it’s possible… just…
(A daughter had a politics A-level* teacher who would make a big thing about how unintelligent George W Bush was. I said to her – just think, if he’d been more intelligent he could have been a sixth form politics teacher!)
* in UK, A-levels are the last leg of the school journey, taken aged 17-18. “O-levels”, aged 15-16, determine whether you get an interview or offer from university, A-levels determine whether you in fact get in. Grade inflation has been massive over the years, both in schools and universities, so if a kid gets a first it’s hard to know just how good that is. When I was at uni some courses would only award a first every couple of years.
But I love how it's wrong to jump to medical conclusions . . . except when our nation's leading purveyor of disinformation and propaganda does it.Replies: @Jack D
“But what about-ism” is always the wrong approach, whether your are talking about vaccines or Ukraine or anything. If someone is doing something wrong, the correct approach is to condemn their wrongdoing, not to emulate it yourself. This is something that is taught to every six year old.
His but-hurt opponent who lost what he thought was a "safe seat" to Mr. Santos, I guess, was so sure in his reelection that he didn't bother to do any "oppo" research?
The loser of that seat is as much as admitting that President Biden's administration has been such a Dumpster fire, that the down-ballot effect was losing the seat to a man who ran the table with everything about his credentials and background that he could possibly lie about?
That’s not a nice thing to say about your go-to.
Not only is The Onion no longer funny, their writers are no longer numerate.
30 litres of what is mainly water weighs 30 kilograms, which works out to 66 pounds. This is an amount an able-bodied male should be able to lift, maybe at the risk of injuring their back trying reach forward to place it on a refrigerator shelf.
30 litres is a bit under 8 gallons, which works out to a bit more than a cubic foot. A refrigerator with 18 cubic foot capacity (I looked up a model at Best Buy but don’t see the breakdown with the freezer compartment) is not unusual. A 30 litre bottle of soda would easily fit in the fridge, but you may need to move a shelf depending on how tall the bottle, and placing a 66 pound load should go where it doesn’t overload a shelf.
That said, it doesn’t weigh anything close to the 274 lbs mentioned in the article.
But you're right that they could have used numbers that make more sense. Going with their number of a bottle that is 4 feet tall, it would have to be really skinny (like 15 inches in diameter - like the proportions of a wine bottle) to contain only 274 lbs. of liquid (conservatively assuming that the cylindrical portion is only 1 meter high) - nothing like the proportions shown in the fake photo. If you make the diameter a more realistic 2 ft then the liquid weighs 620 lbs. and has a volume of 74 gallons or 280 liters - a little bigger than your hot water heater tank. (BTW, your hot water tank which is 40 or 50 gals. is really heavy when it is full).
But these guys were all English majors. Math is hard.
But the joke only works if the new jumbo-size is denominated in liters because it's supposed to be a massive scale-up of the standard two-liter bottle. So they had to decide on what was the funniest-sounding number of liters and the funniest sounding weight. 66 lbs isn't funny. But neither is 113 liters (274-ish lbs of Coke), because it's not a round number. They probably talked through all these issues in their version of the "writer's room."
They could also have gone really big with 200 liters (440 lbs) or 300 liters (660 lbs). Personally, I think the 300 liter/660 lb. joke would have been funniest. But they wimped out.
Furthermore, since they brought it up, this allegedly preposterous idea is actually pretty good. It's basically like having a big keg of Coke on tap. You'd need a pressure release tap and hand pump like on a beer keg (ah, the memories). But the economies of scale would be great (sounds like something they would carry at Costco). And they are 100% correct that the marketing attention of the monster bottle would be terrific.
What-about-ism is the correct response to the election of Mr. George Santos to Congress, the real-life version of George Costanza (“It isn’t a lie, if you believe it to be true”) from the old Seinfeld TV program.
His but-hurt opponent who lost what he thought was a “safe seat” to Mr. Santos, I guess, was so sure in his reelection that he didn’t bother to do any “oppo” research?
The loser of that seat is as much as admitting that President Biden’s administration has been such a Dumpster fire, that the down-ballot effect was losing the seat to a man who ran the table with everything about his credentials and background that he could possibly lie about?
Of course as soon as you attempt to analyze humor it’s not funny anymore.
But you’re right that they could have used numbers that make more sense. Going with their number of a bottle that is 4 feet tall, it would have to be really skinny (like 15 inches in diameter – like the proportions of a wine bottle) to contain only 274 lbs. of liquid (conservatively assuming that the cylindrical portion is only 1 meter high) – nothing like the proportions shown in the fake photo. If you make the diameter a more realistic 2 ft then the liquid weighs 620 lbs. and has a volume of 74 gallons or 280 liters – a little bigger than your hot water heater tank. (BTW, your hot water tank which is 40 or 50 gals. is really heavy when it is full).
But these guys were all English majors. Math is hard.
Very cute how you changed the subject to what about-sim. Meta-sophistry.
274 lbs would be close to the weight of 30 gallons of Coke (assuming it weighs the same 8.4 lbs per gallon as water). So I think they initially got lost in the metric conversion.
But the joke only works if the new jumbo-size is denominated in liters because it’s supposed to be a massive scale-up of the standard two-liter bottle. So they had to decide on what was the funniest-sounding number of liters and the funniest sounding weight. 66 lbs isn’t funny. But neither is 113 liters (274-ish lbs of Coke), because it’s not a round number. They probably talked through all these issues in their version of the “writer’s room.”
They could also have gone really big with 200 liters (440 lbs) or 300 liters (660 lbs). Personally, I think the 300 liter/660 lb. joke would have been funniest. But they wimped out.
Furthermore, since they brought it up, this allegedly preposterous idea is actually pretty good. It’s basically like having a big keg of Coke on tap. You’d need a pressure release tap and hand pump like on a beer keg (ah, the memories). But the economies of scale would be great (sounds like something they would carry at Costco). And they are 100% correct that the marketing attention of the monster bottle would be terrific.