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My Taki’s column nine days ago — “Racial Revenge?” — asked if the murder of two white octogenarians visiting their sons grave by a black man might have been inspired by the media hoopla over the shooting of jogger/prowler Ahmaud Arbery. From WDEL news radio in Delaware:

State police still looking for motive in Delaware Veterans Cemetery killings, confirm they killed shooter
Sean Greene Published May 21, 2020 at 9:45 pm

Delaware State Police are still looking for answers two weeks after a standoff at the Delaware Veterans Memorial Cemetery left an Elkton, Maryland, couple and their shooter dead.

On May 8, gunfire broke the silence in the area of Glasgow, just north of the Summit Bridge.

Dozens of officers tried to track down Sheldon Francis of Middletown, ultimately getting into a firefight in the woods between the cemetery and Brennan Estates, leaving their armored BearCat with plenty of broken glass.

The BearCat is an armored car that law enforcement critics complain about when they talk about the “militarized” police.

The killer was likely a good shot.

“This piece of equipment–without it–I think things would have ended differently for our troopers that day,” said Delaware State Police Major Danny Meadows at Troop 2 on Thursday.

What Delaware State Police are still struggling with is Francis’ motive.

Police confirmed that Francis was killed by police and did not take his own life, but now they’re hoping they can find someone who can sort out why he chose to kill to kill Paul and Lidia Marino, and no one else at the cemetery.

“We have no indication at all that he was targeting these two victims,” said State Police Captain Peter Sawyer.

Meanwhile, the national press is spectacularly uninterested in this case. None of the names of the victims or killer has ever appeared in the New York Times, for instance. In contrast, Google says the name “Ahmaud Arbery” has appeared on the nytimes.com site 93,500 times:

… which sounds like at least a moderate exaggeration.

 
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  1. Since you’re awake at this hour, why don’t you un-moderate 2 comments of mine under this post of yours. It’s starting to seem deliberate.

  2. Regarding this post, the level of anarch-tyranny is high now: Breitbart says Man Who Filmed Ahmaud Arbery’s Death Charged with Murder . The authorities at high levels don’t like White people getting uppity and doing anything to protect or defend themselves.

    Is the Lyin’ Press not complicit, whether intentionally or just out of stupidity, in covering up for this anarcho-tyranny? They (Feral Gov’t and its media branch). don’t think the average person will figure out what’s going on. He will, though.

    • Disagree: Stan d Mute
  3. Update on everyone’s favorite Polar Bear Hunt target Matt Yglesias:

    Matt deleted his entire twitter timeline, after posting the following

    “Learned a new one yesterday–BIPOC.

    Crafting new terminological standards and then judging people based on their mastery of them is definitely about helping the underprivileged and not at all about helping people with academic training and cushy desk jobs to do the work”

    https://twitter.com/brw21605/status/1263442240338264065/photo/1

    BIPOC, for any Istevers behind the curve, stands for Black and Indigenous People of Color. It’s pushed hardest by indigenous Hispanics, seems to include Palestinians sometimes. It’s partially what Matt said (the constant need for new shibboleths) and partially a power move by less-European Hispanic activists to dislodge the Conquistador-American elites.

    • Replies: @indocon
    , @Hypnotoad666
  4. I know where they can find the motive. It’s hiding in plain sight, on the same golf courses where O.J. went searching for “the real killers” and I bet you can find the motive for the guy beating up old white people in nursing homes there too.

  5. @Achmed E. Newman

    Anyone who’s posted over a million words on this one website may need to take a break now and then.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  6. They know the motive (he hated whites and cops). They just don’t want to make it public until it can be buried or released after some other story grabs headlines. In France, authorities are always searching for the motive of a stabbling in which an Arab was shouting “Allahu akhbar.”

    • LOL: hhsiii
  7. OT: Today I was looking up a certain, in immigration restrictionist circles rather well known, quote by late Singaporean prime minister Lee Kuan Yew regarding multicultural societies. I found an interesting discrepancy between the German and the English version of the interview – in the German version the passage has been cut out entirely in a way to hide that it was ever there. It seems that the Spiegel thought that such wisdom was not suitable for its readers, but then forgot to make the same excision to the English online text. I wonder what other interviews by the Spiegel got similar treatments?

    English version (Square brackets added by me to indicate the additional text):

    SPIEGEL: During your career, you have kept your distance from Western style democracy. [Are you still convinced that an authoritarian system is the future for Asia?

    Mr. Lee: Why should I be against democracy? The British came here, never gave me democracy, except when they were about to leave. But I cannot run my system based on their rules. I have to amend it to fit my people’s position. In multiracial societies, you don’t vote in accordance with your economic interests and social interests, you vote in accordance with race and religion. Supposing I’d run their system here, Malays would vote for Muslims, Indians would vote for Indians, Chinese would vote for Chinese. I would have a constant clash in my Parliament which cannot be resolved because the Chinese majority would always overrule them. So I found a formula that changes that…

    SPIEGEL: … and that turned Singapore de facto into a one party state.] Critics say that Singapore resembles a Lee Family Enterprise. Your son is the Prime Minister, your daughter-in-law heads the powerful Development Agency…

    https://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/spiegel-interview-with-singapore-s-lee-kuan-yew-it-s-stupid-to-be-afraid-a-369128.html

    German version:

    SPIEGEL: Zeitlebens haben Sie Distanz zu einer Demokratie nach westlichem Muster bewahrt. [ ] Singapur gleicht immer mehr einem Familienbetrieb der Lees. Ihr Sohn ist Premierminister, ihre Schwiegertochter leitet die staatliche Investitionsgesell- schaft …

    https://www.spiegel.de/spiegel/print/d-41352830.html

    • Thanks: Elsewhere
  8. Flemur says:

    … which sounds like at least a moderate exaggeration.

    That initial count is almost always nonsense; you can get a closer count by repeatedly clicking the highest “page” number at the bottom of the results (or increase the “start=XX” value in the URL) until you finally get:

    site:nytimes.com “Ahmaud Arbery”
    Page 33 of 322 results

  9. Dozens of officers tried to track down Sheldon Francis of Middletown, ultimately getting into a firefight in the woods between the cemetery and Brennan Estates, leaving their armored BearCat with plenty of broken glass.

    The BearCat is an armored car that law enforcement critics complain about when they talk about the “militarized” police.

    Due to the threat of “terrorism,” we “need” centralized surveillance by the federal security services (and their corporate affiliates).
    Due to toxic levels of vibrancy associated with excessive diversity, we “need” militarized police.

    It’s the only way to protect muh human rights democracy, goy!
    Funny how that works…

  10. Barnard says:

    Trump retweets Detroit nursing home beating. While the suspect has been arrested his social media posts prove this was a racial motivated attack. No national media coverage so far outside of FOX.

    Is this even possible to believe? Can this be for real? Where is this nursing home, how is the victim doing?— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 22, 2020

  11. The NYT is claiming Ahmaud Arbery was jogging “about 2 miles from his home”.

    This bald-faced obfuscation is going unchallenged. The distance between Satilla Shores and Brunswick may indeed be around two miles on a map, but one has to fly over water and coastal swamp to make that true.

    There seems to be little interest in verifying the jogger narrative. A 2017 video shows him having access to a car. A more likely scenario is that he drove over the Sydney Lanier Bridge and parked somewhere near Satilla Shores.

    Perhaps someone local can make a video to show the actual route Arbery is alleged to have taken.

  12. indocon says:
    @Discordiax

    We should be all in on BIPOC train, can’t think of a better way to make white-hispanics into just plain whites.

  13. Latest developments in the innocent jogger saga:
    1) Ahmaud Abery is still dead
    2) as is Generallisimo Francisco Franco
    3) Police investigating a possible link to Trayvon Martin
    4) who, apparently, is still dead.
    5) Possible Michael Brown connection. He may have been jogging.
    6) He is still dead, too.
    7) Police suspect that the gun used in the killing of innocent jogger would be capable of killing black people who weren’t innocently jogging.
    8) Possible connection between white people in pickup trucks and disparate COVID-19 impact on blacks whether they jog or not.
    9) Stacey Abrams claims the innocent jogger was targeted because rayciss whites wanted to touch her hair. Don’t touch her hair.
    10) Emmett Till

  14. anonymous[400] • Disclaimer says:

    Twisted sort of language. The “standoff” did not leave a couple and their shooter dead; they were already dead and that later lead to the shooter’s confrontation with the police. Guess he didn’t count on them having that armored car. They are “struggling” to figure out a motive. Stuff just happens one supposes, just like ‘the gun went off’ narrative.

    • Replies: @Art Deco
  15. ““This piece of equipment–without it–I think things would have ended differently for our troopers that day,”

    Reminds me when a Chicago cop was killed in the Thompson Center downtown by a perp wearing soft body armor and then the illustrious ex-cop Ald. Ed Burke stated he was going to try to BAN body armor for the ordinary citizen.

    Then he got complaints from regular people who actually use body armor and dropped his nefarious plan to leave Chicagoans defenseless.

    Ald. Burke, who once ran a re-election TV ad about how he led the fight against handguns in Chicago.

  16. Whiskey says: • Website

    We are just now entering the phase where it is legal for Black people to kill White people for any reason at all. Hence the media shut down. Just like the media shut down of some Black dude beating terribly an older White person in a nursing home. Caught on video.

    Again — we are just at the point where that is legal. When not if Biden takes office, if you believe the polls and Carville and Drudge — it will be completely legal.

  17. Well, Ahmaud Arbery would make the notable people “celebrities” [sic] Wikipedia list of people who died with COVID-19 if he had had it when he got himself shot to death.

    Funny how his name sounds like “armed robbery.”

    • Replies: @HammerJack
  18. Biden now tells black people “you ain’t black” if you can’t figure out that you’re supposed to vote for him.

    So-called Prestige Media have no problem with this. Most are simply ignoring it.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-torn-him-and-trump-aint-black-in-dust-up-with-charlamagne-tha-god

  19. @Buzz Mohawk

    Funny how his name sounds like “armed robbery.”

    Better call in the amber lamps.

  20. res says:

    Any progress on scouring his social media accounts looking for a motive?

    I mean that is standard procedure these days, right?

    • Replies: @Sean
    , @anon
  21. @Achmed E. Newman

    Maybe since you’re already at 2,600+ comments in 2020 you ran into some kind of limit due to sheer volume?

    • Agree: Daniel Williams
    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
  22. Mr. Anon says:

    The BearCat is an armored car that law enforcement critics complain about when they talk about the “militarized” police.

    To better understand the complaints about “militarized” police, I would refer you to the numerous videos taken during the police/FBI house-to-house searches of Watertown in 2013. If you can find them that is – the videos showing police sweeping their guns at residents in their houses seem to have mostly been scrubbed from Youtube. Apparently, the weapons discipline shown by the police caused a few people to take note:

    https://www.wbur.org/news/2015/04/03/boston-marathon-bombing-response-report

    The picture in that article certainly gives no reason to suspect that the police are becoming “militarized”.

    If you like your police-state you can keep your police-state. Actually, you can keep it even if you don’t like it.

  23. Sean says:
    @res

    https://stylemonument.com/white-couple-killed-by-black-gunman-possible-retaliation-for-ahmaud-arbery/

    Police say the shooter was Sheldon C. Francis, 29, from Middletown, Delaware. Social media posts from Sheldon suggest that he was particularly troubled by the killing of Ahmaud Arbery. And authorities are now exploring whether the cemetery shooting may have been racially motivated.

    • Replies: @res
  24. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @Achmed E. Newman

    It’s starting to seem deliberate.

    • LOL: Chris Mallory
    • Replies: @res
  25. anon[252] • Disclaimer says:
    @res

    Any progress on scouring his social media accounts looking for a motive?

    A couple of possibilities come to mind.

    1. He had zero social media presence.
    2. They found something that they don’t want to tell the rest of us about. Not yet, anyway.

    One of these is probably more likely than the other.

    • Replies: @res
  26. res says:
    @Sean

    Thanks. But now we are twelve days later with no meaningful followup?

    This 5/15 Daily Mail article is one of the more informative I have seen, but no details about social media.
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8323375/Delaware-couple-shot-killed-veterans-cemetery-visiting-sons-grave.html

    I mean if he made racist remarks surely the NYT would consider that front page news, right?

    • Replies: @Sean
  27. res says:
    @anon

    Right. And the reason behind 2 is what is interesting.

    Compare and contrast with incidents where a white killed a black.

  28. res says:
    @anon

    The tiny duck on the bib is a nice touch. Not sure if that was intentional. Might be a good image for responding to TD.

  29. anon[159] • Disclaimer says:

    https://www.newschannel5.com/news/investigation-closes-i-440-near-i-65-in-nashville

    Steve,

    Black guy shot a white cop in Nashville. The cop was off duty walking his dog. The cop was in plain clothes. They exchanged hellos, then as they passed, William Johnson shot Officer Darrell Osment in the back shoulder, and fired at his again when he was on the ground, but missed. Johnson drove off, Osment called the police and gave them a description. There was a chase on I-440 and a gun battle. Three cops vs. William Johnson. The cops, one of whom was Terrance Stuckey who is thankfully black, won the gun battle and Johnson is dead.

    Guarantee you that this William Johnson was angry about the Aubrey shootings and the incendiary news coverage. Here we have a white man who really was “hunted”, and who actually was out just taking a walk with his dog, shot. The media is despicable.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  30. @HammerJack

    I did, about a month or so back. It didn’t take. This Kung Flu thing got me riled up, and there are lots and lots of articles on it.

    Perhaps you are right though.

  31. @William Badwhite

    It’s not that. I’ve been kind of p/o’d at Steve’s slow-on-the-uptake deal about this Infotainment Panic-Fest, as he seems to get when he’d being BS’d and lied-to about all other kinds of things (as with his expertise on all kinds of other issues).

    The last few comments of mine regarding this took an inordinate amount of extra time to post.

  32. @Achmed E. Newman

    that’s because it is deliberate. Steve deep sixes posts all the time now. no, it has nothing to do with him moderating every comment so it take extra time. he just vanishes stuff on purpose these days. then he lets the troll posts thru.

    like Warren Buffett and Tom Brady, Steve’s time of decline has arrived. you can’t be great forever.

  33. @Discordiax

    BIPOC, for any Istevers behind the curve, stands for Black and Indigenous People of Color.

    The term “Black and Brown people” also seems to be cropping up more often. “White Hispanics” and Tiger Asians seem to be getting pushed to the periphery of the Good Team.

  34. Meanwhile, the national press is spectacularly uninterested in this case.

    Because it happens every day in every city. Thus it is not news.

    The only thing remarkable is that out-of-staters were visiting Delaware for reasons unconnected to setting up a corporation or hauling poultry. But Elkton is just over the line.

    • Replies: @David In TN
  35. The BearCat is an armored car that law enforcement critics complain about when they talk about the “militarized” police.

    They just need to adopt a less intimidating paint job and signage. Also, playing music when they drive and giving out tasty treats wouldn’t hurt.

    • LOL: kaganovitch
  36. Rob McX says:

    There are things that are hard to understand, even if you accept that the Marinos were killed because they were white. The shooter obviously came heavily armed, judging by the amount of shots he exchanged with the police. But he apparently looked for no other victims after the Marinos. Nor did he try to get as far away as possible from where he’d committed the murders, which is what you’d expect of someone who plans an attack to the point of bringing several firearms and a large supply of ammunition. When the police spotted him nearly an hour after the 911 call, he was less than half a mile from the murder scene.

    • Replies: @Rob McX
    , @James Speaks
  37. Sean says:
    @res

    I mean if he made racist remarks surely the NYT would consider that front page news, right?

    I think it is obvious that the remarks he made were about racism against black people–at least as far as the authorities are determined to interpret them–and fulminations could not cast light on his motive for murder could they? As was said of Huey Newton in his latter years : “His eyes had the look of the shark about them…a deep and ancient malevolence devoid of all mercy. To look into those eyes was to look into your own death.”

    Here is an apparent police booking photograph of Francis taken in 2009.

  38. @Reg Cæsar

    The MSM wants you to think white on black killings “happen every day in every city.”

    The MSM wants you to think black on white killings never happen.

    • Replies: @Reg Cæsar
  39. ATBOTL says:

    We don’t want the police to have armored vehicles because they are intended to be used on white people who resist white dispossession. The idea that the police are keeping white people safe from black killers is beyond absurd. With no police on the street, whites would protect ourselves far better than the anti-white police are not doing.

  40. Rob McX says:
    @Rob McX

    Correction: He probably had only one gun.

    • Replies: @jsinton
  41. @Beavertales

    “This bald-faced obfuscation is going unchallenged. The distance between Satilla Shores and Brunswick may indeed be around two miles on a map, but one has to fly over water and coastal swamp to make that true.”

    He was reportedly living in a house in the Fancy Bluff neighborhood. Satilla Drive becomes Fancy Bluff Road when it crosses US 17. There are plenty of houses on or near Fancy Bluff Road within two miles or so by road of the house under construction on Satilla Drive.

  42. @Beavertales

    In order to get there from his mother’s house, Arbery would have needed to cross or even run along a very busy U.S. Highway 17. That doesn’t sound very pleasant to me. He could have driven his car to or near Satilla Shores, but the neighborhood itself is rather small with mostly dead-end streets. It would be difficult to get in a jog of any decent length without a lot of backtracking… oh, wait… never mind…

    • Replies: @James B. Shearer
  43. jsinton says:
    @Rob McX

    I think he shot Marinos point blank with a .45. I think he shot at the police with an assault rifle. Just what I recalled.

    • Replies: @anon
  44. The authorities really tried hard to speculate that it might be mob hit. Alas for them it did not fly. Also kinda sounds like profiling the victims due to their Italian surname? Then again no self respectimg Italian mobster would outsource a hit to a black. Too much profiling there?

  45. @David In TN

    Yes, but their actions speak louder. We should hammer this point home.

  46. Anon[140] • Disclaimer says:

    I’m not sure what is going on with the Google search results estimate, but I’ve noticed in general that you can get wacky results on media site searches because they include any page where the word appeared outside of the article on the page, including sidebar navigation, new and popular posts lists, “you may also like” lists, and so on. The relevancy ranking usually is smart enough to sink those results to the bottom of the results, I think.

    For what it’s worth, the NYT’s own search produces 758 results for the unquoted name Ahmaud Arbery. Their own search feature would be able to limit searches to certain database fields, such as just the article text, title, and tags.

  47. @Rob McX

    There are things that are hard to understand, even if you accept that the Marinos were killed because they were white.

    uh … Ate you suggesting this “person” who gunned down two, elderly, unarmed white people was remotely capable of rational thought?

  48. anon[127] • Disclaimer says:
    @jsinton

    I think he shot Marinos point blank with a .45.

    A pistol for sure, the caliber doesn’t matter.

    I think he shot at the police with an assault rifle.

    He had a full auto firearm, also known as a machine gun? I’m very skeptical.

    James Speaks
    uh … Ate you suggesting this “person” who gunned down two, elderly, unarmed white people was remotely capable of rational thought?

    It is possible, given the current naked hatred of wypipo blarring 24/7 from the Megaphone. Also, it has happened before in the US.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zebra_murders

  49. @Rouetheday

    “In order to get there from his mother’s house, Arbery would have needed to cross or even run along a very busy U.S. Highway 17. That doesn’t sound very pleasant to me. …”

    Maybe not pleasant but it looks possible to me. Even reasonably safe if you are careful and patient. 17 has a median so you are only crossing 2 lanes at a time. Cars appear to be doing this regularly. That neighborhood appears to be surrounded by I95, US17 and water so he didn’t have a lot of choices.

  50. Dr. X says:

    The killer was likely a good shot.

    Upon what evidence do you base this assumption, Steve? The fact that he murdered two unsuspecting 80-year olds?

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  51. @Dr. X

    He apparently hit the BearCat repeatedly in the subsequent firefight.

    • Replies: @Dr. X
  52. @anon

    “The media is despicable.”

    They are just being themselves.

  53. donut says:

    “State police still looking for motive in Delaware Veterans Cemetery killings, confirm they killed shooter”

    That’s some stupid MF’ers there . If I was going to commit a crime I think Delaware would be the place to do it .

  54. Dr. X says:
    @Steve Sailer

    Hitting a truck-sized vehicle at any distance inside of 200 yards with a rifle is “so easy a cave man could do it.”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  55. @Dr. X

    But hitting a truck within 200 yards when a bunch of cops are shooting back at you might be challenging.

  56. p s c says:

    For those that dispute the accuracy of the shooter, plase click the link to the WDEL article. You will see a group of bullet shots to the windshield of the DE State Police armored vehicle.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
  57. @p s c

    Thanks.

    Hitting your target while your target is shooting back is a challenge.

    • Replies: @Joe Stalin
    , @Anon87
  58. @Steve Sailer

    This is why once you acquire your AR-15, a Red Dot Sight is an excellent addition to increasing it’s utility under stressful conditions. Remember, you are trying to advantage yourself to the maximum amount possible.

    http://www.thenewrifleman.com/a-primer-on-ar15-optics-the-red-dot-sight/

  59. John D'oh says:

    Google: Sheldon Francis Biden

    or

    Google: Delaware shooter Biden

    Still no peep from the Veep. You know, they guy from Delaware.

  60. Anon87 says:
    @Steve Sailer

    True, but it sounded like he had a preplanned location to shoot from, so he may have had a decently fortified blind.

    Also, cops seem to be very “pray and spray” so I bet most were widely inaccurate.

    I imagine we will never know. Add it to the Vegas and Notre Dame pile.

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