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From Foreign Policy:

EXCLUSIVE: Trump Advisor Stephen Miller Blocked G-7 Migration Proposal

The author of the ‘Muslim Ban’ is now working to scuttle plans to settle refugees.

BY COLUM LYNCH MAY 25,

President Donald Trump’s controversial senior advisor and speechwriter, Stephen Miller, has led White House efforts to undercut an initiative by Italy to place the migration crisis at the center of this week’s Group of Seven major summit meeting starting Friday in Sicily.

For Italy, the summit in Taormina, Sicily, was to provide a poignant opportunity to raise awareness of the plight of hundred of thousands of refugees who cross the Mediterranean Sea to Italy’s shores each year, and to reach agreement on a plan to find them permanent homes.

But the Donald Trump White House has largely blocked its Italian host from putting forward an initiative addressing the need to resettle millions of refugees and migrants who have poured into Europe on rickety boats or crossed borders on foot over the past decade. Instead, the United States has pressed the leaders to cap the session with a stern declaration on the need to fight terrorism, a cause that gained added urgency following a grisly suicide bombing at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester.

The rearguard action was led by the 31-year-old Miller …

The U.S. stance reflects the influence of Trump confidantes like Miller in an area that has traditionally been managed by national security experts in the White House and the State Department. … Miller has filled a policy void left by a weak multilateral affairs division in the White House, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who has shown little interest in refugees, according to a U.S. official.

In advance of the summit, Italy’s Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni met Wednesday with President Trump in Rome and made a last-ditch effort to persuade the American president to soften his opposition to resettling more refugees in the United States and urged the United States to provide financial assistance for migrant rescue operations in the Mediterranean, according to USA Today. It remains unclear how Trump responded. …

“The president of the United States has campaigned on certain principles and he will not abandon those just because another country wishes we would have a different policy” said the second U.S. official. “We are not forcing our policy on others, but they shouldn’t try to force theirs on us.”

 
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  1. there goes myyyyyyyy hero / watch him as he goooooooes

    • Agree: Anonym, epochehusserl
    • LOL: Dave Pinsen
    • Replies: @boogerbently
    @DCThrowback

    I support Trump.
    But this statement from ANY US official is ludicrous.

    “We are not forcing our policy on others, but they shouldn’t try to force theirs on us.”

  2. This blog occasionally is like a truffle-hunting pig, finding good news in the weeds.

    It’s probably too much to wish for, but maybe the FBI will pack Jared off where his father went, and Miller will be Trump’s next fair-haired boy (though whether not being married to Ivanka will be bug or feature is a question).

    • Replies: @IHTG
    @Thomas

    Davis-Oliver immigration enforcement act approved in judiciary committee (it's an item on Bannon's whiteboard) https://www.numbersusa.com/news/davis-oliver-act-passes-house-judiciary-committee

    Confirmation hearing for a new USCIS director, immigration restrictionist Lee Francis Cissna (highly recommended by Mark Krikorian) https://psmag.com/news/trumps-uscis-pick-harsh-on-undocument-immigrants

    "Mandatory E-Verify ‘Is Coming’" http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/05/23/expert-mandatory-e-verify-coming/

    Replies: @Old fogey

    , @JohnnyD
    @Thomas

    ,
    The best case scenario: Jared is removed from the White House and all of the Hillary supporters realize that Trump supporters don't give a damn about Jared.

    , @Old fogey
    @Thomas

    I am sure that Jared's and Ivanka's backs are as good looking as their fronts. We've had enough of the fronts, I believe, so I am looking forward to admiring their backs.

  3. German_reader says:

    If true. that would finally be some good news from Trump’s administration.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @Diversity Heretic
    @German_reader

    Agreed, it's good news, although I wonder if it's motivated by fears that Africans and Arabs will displace the wonderful Haitians that the Trump Administration has punted on sending back where they belong.

  4. “Second US official” = Anton?

  5. “For Italy, the summit in Taormina, Sicily, was to provide a poignant opportunity to raise awareness of the plight of hundred of thousands of refugees who cross the Mediterranean Sea to Italy’s shores each year, and to reach agreement on a plan to find them permanent homes.”

    For Italy? No, not for Italy, dammit. The current ruling class of Italy doesn’t speak for the people of Italy on the mass immigration invasion. The average Italian knows damn well they are being invaded from the third world. The evil and corrupt Italian government is allowing Italy to be invaded and destroyed by invaders from the third world.

    • Agree: MBlanc46
    • Replies: @englishmike
    @Charles Pewitt

    The current ruling class of Italy doesn’t speak for the people of Italy on the mass immigration invasion.

    1. In which European nation does the "ruling class" speak for the people on that subject?

    2. In what way does the EU ruling class "speak for the people of Europe" on anything?

    , @The Alarmist
    @Charles Pewitt


    "The evil and corrupt Italian government is allowing Italy to be invaded and destroyed by invaders from the third world."
     
    The evil and corrupt government is funneling a lot of EU money to a lot of people to take in and manage the refugees. It has become a new Industry for Italy ... Italian civilsation be damned! Likewise in other EU countries that get all misty-eyed over the tidal-wave that is engulfing and smothering native European culture. The elites, like those to the north figure they can retire to gated communities with lots of guards, and it will all be fine, just like Brazil, so screw the little people, 'cos Brazil ain't so bad, right?

    Really something to think that the only European culture that may exist in 100 years in any appreciable size is that of Poland, Czechia, and Hungary.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

  6. @Thomas
    This blog occasionally is like a truffle-hunting pig, finding good news in the weeds.

    It's probably too much to wish for, but maybe the FBI will pack Jared off where his father went, and Miller will be Trump's next fair-haired boy (though whether not being married to Ivanka will be bug or feature is a question).

    Replies: @IHTG, @JohnnyD, @Old fogey

    Davis-Oliver immigration enforcement act approved in judiciary committee (it’s an item on Bannon’s whiteboard) https://www.numbersusa.com/news/davis-oliver-act-passes-house-judiciary-committee

    Confirmation hearing for a new USCIS director, immigration restrictionist Lee Francis Cissna (highly recommended by Mark Krikorian) https://psmag.com/news/trumps-uscis-pick-harsh-on-undocument-immigrants

    “Mandatory E-Verify ‘Is Coming’” http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/05/23/expert-mandatory-e-verify-coming/

    • Replies: @Old fogey
    @IHTG

    Many thanks for this good news. Let's hope it all pans out.

  7. Steve, speaking of Europe are you going to comment on how the Tories have blown a huge lead over Labour?

    • Replies: @James Richard
    @Berty

    Opinion polls are engineered to influence public opinion not to measure it. That said, the Tory wobble in the polls due to Theresa May's "dementia tax" gaffe will be more than offset by the fear induced by the Arab suicide bomber in Manchester. Do you really think the Conservatives are not going to win after that?

    Replies: @dfordoom, @MBlanc46

  8. “controversial.”

    Is Stephen Miller also…..
    “outspoken”
    “maverick”
    “firebrand”
    “fiery”
    “right wing” (hillary or podesta or mad max waters or any of those kooks never are called “left wing”)

    What am I missing.

    Are these “journalists” taught in j school these silly code words to describe non-liberals? It is the same small set of words they use to describe anyone not on board with the communist/globalist/SJW agenda. They sure aren’t showing much flair or imagination.

    But they are j school grads and we are learning more about these people and their “intellect.”

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Buck Turgidson

    I thought the newest term per the memo circulated among the journo-lists was "Strongman".

    "Trump strongman Steve Miller today ranted about ... blah blah ...." is the way they are supposed to be writing it. Someone didn't get the memo.

    As to your "maverick" term, that was supposed to be just reserved for Juan McAmnesty alone. They use it because it has connotations that remind us of "Top Gun"'s Maverick character, played by Tom Cruise. It makes us think that possibly McAmnesty had been an ace fighter jet pilot back in his past, when in fact he was a screw-up jet pilot back in his past.

    Yeah, they seem to use the rest of those terms in your list a lot, when the journalism party is against a particular individual.

    Nice to hear from you, Buck.

    , @Old fogey
    @Buck Turgidson

    You forgot "controversial," the kiss of death.

  9. Taking refugees is like paying ransom to kidnappers: encourages more of the same

    • Replies: @27 year old
    @Luke Lea

    President Trump should totally pull the scene from the movie Ransom and go on TV with bricks of cash on the Oval Office desk and say "this was YOUR money that the corrupt establishment wanted to spend on servies for illegals. I'm turning it into a bounty. Anyone who provides information leading to the deportation of an illegal immigrant will receive a tax free reward of X dollars. Anyone who provides information leading to the arrest of an employer who hires illegals will receive a tax free reward of 3X dollars. You can find details on Whitehouse.gov for how to submit information and claim your reward. Goodnight and God bless America."

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

  10. Stephen Miller for President in 2024!

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  11. Taormina was the base from which Timoleon liberated Sicily from the Carthaginians and their puppet tyrants. It sided with Rome against Carthage in the Second Punic War, becoming one of only three Sicilian cities to achieve the status of Roman ally, rather than subject. It was the last Byzantines fortress to hold out against the Fatmid invasion.

    Now, for the fourth time in its history, this famous Sicilian city plays an important role in the defense of Europe against North African invasion.

  12. OT, but fascinating tale of Mr. James Comey’s career, and from Jerry Pournelle no less. Wonder if he fabricated it or what.

    https://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/recovery-opinionanalysis-on-comey-and-draining-the-swamp-a-note-on-education/

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @anonymous

    Breitbart was all over this last year

    http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/09/10/exposed-fbi-director-james-comeys-clinton-foundation-connection/

    , @englishmike
    @anonymous

    As a commenter who has also drawn attention to this "fascinating tale", in two threads at this site, may I say that it is highly recommended reading, even if you don't buy every detail of the story.

    In fairness to Pournelle, he presents it as a piece sent to, not "fabricated by", him; and he suggests that his readers might want to take some of it with a pinch of salt.

    FWIW, it sounds pretty convincing to me.

    On the other hand I'm intrigued by Scott Adams's defence of Comey as an honourable man who has "taken two bullets for his country".

    But then, Mark Antony thought that the conspirators who assassinated Julius Caesar in the Capitol were " all honourable men". According to Shakespeare. (Wonder if he fabricated it or what.)

    Replies: @englishmike, @Jonathan Mason

  13. Eeyores, get in here and tell us what bad news this is and how Trump sold us out!

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Jack Hanson


    The U.S. stance reflects the influence of Trump confidantes like Miller in an area that has traditionally been managed by national security experts in the White House and the State Department. … Miller has filled a policy void left by a weak multilateral affairs division in the White House, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who has shown little interest in refugees, according to a U.S. official.
     
    So far, it's difficult for me to see that Trump has any principled opposition to or support for any policy. It's house built on sand and feet of clay territory. I'm glad Miller's got influence, but it sounds like we're just a few staff changes away from a completely different policy.

    Has Trump cucked us? I don't know. If your wife sleeps with your co-workers at the office Christmas party because she's blind drunk and doesn't know what she's doing, did you get cucked or not? Your call.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  14. Since the Italian government sends their Navy (Coast Guard) to off- shore North Africa to pick up the migrants, and rather than repatriate them ashore (and confiscate the boats used in trafficking human cargo), they bring them to Italy–it is a self-inflicted problem.

    The true solution is to turn back the migrant hoards at the source. But instead, the Italian government has ruined their country by aiding and accepting the migrant flows. Now Italy wishes to share their mistake by recruiting other countries to share the burden of the failed policy.

    • Agree: Laugh Track
    • Replies: @Dave Pinsen
    @Forbes

    I forget where I read it recently, but apparently the migrants Italy picks up are no longer heading north to Northern Europe -- they are less welcome there, so they're staying in Italy. So Italy getting caught holding the hot potato may be part of the dynamic here.

    But certainly, they should be towing the refugee boats back to Africa, offloading the refugees there, arresting the pilots, and then towing out and scuttling the boats.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jim jones, @Forbes

    , @Anonymous Nephew
    @Forbes

    We should remember that six or seven years ago both Italy and Libya had sensible (if dodgy) governments - Italy was run by Berlusconi, Libya by Gaddafi. They had a deal, a remarkably good one for Italy, by which the Italian national oil company developed Libya's oil and gas resources (with doubtless some money going to the Libyan leadership), while Gaddafi stopped boats heading for Europe (in exchange for $5bn war reparations).

    Berlusconi was hated by the Economist and FT, who often emphasised "market anxieties over an imminent Italian financial disaster", while Gaddafi was deposed by an armed coalition of the usual suspects. Cameron's use of the RAF against Gaddafi has led to 22 Brit deaths in Manchester (and 30 in Sousse two years back), as well as filling Italy with Africans.

    , @ben tillman
    @Forbes


    The true solution is to turn back the migrant hoards at the source. But instead, the Italian government has ruined their country by aiding and accepting the migrant flows. Now Italy wishes to share their mistake by recruiting other countries to share the burden of the failed policy.
     
    To the contrary, the policy has been a smashing success.

    Replies: @Forbes

  15. OT: Zuck goes full (((Zuck))) at Harvard today:

    Today I want to talk about purpose. …

    Purpose is that sense that we are part of something bigger than ourselves, that we are needed, that we have something better ahead to work for. Purpose is what creates true happiness.

    You’re graduating at a time when this is especially important. When our parents graduated, purpose reliably came from your job, your church, your community. But today, technology and automation are eliminating many jobs. Membership in communities is declining. Many people feel disconnected and depressed, and are trying to fill a void. …

    Today I want to talk about three ways to create a world where everyone has a sense of purpose: by taking on big meaningful projects together, by redefining equality so everyone has the freedom to pursue purpose, and by building community across the world.

    First, let’s take on big meaningful projects.

    Our generation will have to deal with tens of millions of jobs replaced by automation like self-driving cars and trucks.

    More than 300,000 people worked to put a man on the moon – including that janitor. Millions of volunteers immunized children around the world against polio. Millions of more people built the Hoover dam and other great projects.

    These projects didn’t just provide purpose for the people doing those jobs, they gave our whole country a sense of pride that we could do great things.

    The second is redefining equality to give everyone the freedom they need to pursue purpose.

    Many of our parents had stable jobs throughout their careers. Now we’re all entrepreneurial, whether we’re starting projects or finding or role. And that’s great. …

    But today, we have a level of wealth inequality that hurts everyone. When you don’t have the freedom to take your idea and turn it into a historic enterprise, we all lose.

    Every generation expands its definition of equality. Previous generations fought for the vote and civil rights. They had the New Deal and Great Society. Now it’s our time to define a new social contract for our generation.

    We should have a society that measures progress not just by economic metrics like GDP, but by how many of us have a role we find meaningful. We should explore ideas like universal basic income to give everyone a cushion to try new things. We’re going to change jobs many times, so we need affordable childcare to get to work and healthcare that aren’t tied to one company. We’re all going to make mistakes, so we need a society that focuses less on locking us up or stigmatizing us. And as technology keeps changing, we need to focus more on continuous education throughout our lives. …

    The third way we can create a sense of purpose for everyone is by building community. And when our generation says “everyone”, we mean everyone in the world. …

    Quick show of hands: how many of you are from another country? Now, how many of you are friends with one of these folks? Now we’re talking. We have grown up connected.

    In a survey asking millennials around the world what defines our identity, the most popular answer wasn’t nationality, religion or ethnicity, it was “citizen of the world”. That’s a big deal.

    We get that our greatest opportunities are now global — we can be the generation that ends poverty, that ends disease. We get that our greatest challenges need global responses too — no country can fight climate change alone or prevent pandemics. Progress now requires coming together not just as cities or nations, but also as a global community.

    But we live in an unstable time. There are people left behind by globalization across the world. It’s hard to care about people in other places if we don’t feel good about our lives here at home. There’s pressure to turn inwards.

    This is the struggle of our time. The forces of freedom, openness and global community against the forces of authoritarianism, isolationism and nationalism. Forces for the flow of knowledge, trade and immigration against those who would slow them down. This is not a battle of nations, it’s a battle of ideas. There are people in every country for global connection and good people against it.

    This isn’t going to be decided at the UN either. It’s going to happen at the local level, when enough of us feel a sense of purpose and stability in our own lives that we can open up and start caring about everyone. The best way to do that is to start building local communities right now.

    We all get meaning from our communities. Whether our communities are houses or sports teams, churches or music groups, they give us that sense we are part of something bigger, that we are not alone; they give us the strength to expand our horizons.

    That’s why it’s so striking that for decades, membership in all kinds of groups has declined as much as one-quarter. That’s a lot of people who now need to find purpose somewhere else.

    Remember when I told you about that class I taught at the Boys and Girls Club? One day after class I was talking to them about college, and one of my top students raised his hand and said he wasn’t sure he could go because he’s undocumented. He didn’t know if they’d let him in.

    Last year I took him out to breakfast for his birthday. I wanted to get him a present, so I asked him and he started talking about students he saw struggling and said “You know, I’d really just like a book on social justice.”

    It says something about our current situation that I can’t even say his name because I don’t want to put him at risk. But if a high school senior who doesn’t know what the future holds can do his part to move the world forward, then we owe it to the world to do our part too.

    Before you walk out those gates one last time, as we sit in front of Memorial Church, I am reminded of a prayer, Mi Shebeirach, that I say whenever I face a challenge, that I sing to my daughter thinking about her future when I tuck her into bed. It goes:

    “May the source of strength, who blessed the ones before us, help us *find the courage* to make our lives a blessing.”

    I hope you find the courage to make your life a blessing.

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-zuckerberg/harvard-commencement-2017/10154853758606634/

    The first 1/4th of the speech is charming anecdotes about his time at Harvard, the bottom 3/4ths is basically straight David Brooks.

    • Replies: @Harry Baldwin
    @Lord Jeff Sessions

    Zuck: But today, technology and automation are eliminating many jobs. Membership in communities is declining. Many people feel disconnected and depressed, and are trying to fill a void. …

    And the solution is ... wait for it ... more low-IQ immigrants! Oh, and I'll need to add another layer of razor wire to the wall around my compound.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Buck Turgidson

    , @27 year old
    @Lord Jeff Sessions

    There's a lot of good things in there (GDP skepticism, universal income), but he is so full of shit. Will be interesting when he launches his political career

    , @Paul Yarbles
    @Lord Jeff Sessions


    The forces of freedom, openness and global community against the forces of authoritarianism, isolationism and nationalism. Forces for the flow of knowledge, trade and immigration against those who would slow them down. This is not a battle of nations, it’s a battle of ideas. There are people in every country for global connection and good people against it.
     
    Notice the clusters set against one another freedom/openness/global community vs. authoritarianism/isolationism/nationalism. One would think Zuck is engaging in some sort of rhetorical chicanery here. Also how can "good people" be against all those good things and for all those evil things just mentioned? We know Zuck thinks they are deplorable.

    This isn’t going to be decided at the UN either. It’s going to happen at the local level, when enough of us feel a sense of purpose and stability in our own lives that we can open up and start caring about everyone. The best way to do that is to start building local communities right now.
     
    Zuck is promoting a society where local communities are torn asunder by promiscuous immigration, family destroying views on gender and isolating technologies. Yet he believes that these atomized and rootless people will care about their local communities. What a stupid Zuck!
  16. @Berty
    Steve, speaking of Europe are you going to comment on how the Tories have blown a huge lead over Labour?

    Replies: @James Richard

    Opinion polls are engineered to influence public opinion not to measure it. That said, the Tory wobble in the polls due to Theresa May’s “dementia tax” gaffe will be more than offset by the fear induced by the Arab suicide bomber in Manchester. Do you really think the Conservatives are not going to win after that?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @James Richard


    will be more than offset by the fear induced by the Arab suicide bomber in Manchester. Do you really think the Conservatives are not going to win after that?
     
    Agreed. The Tories will win in a landslide. Even though they're every bit as atrocious as Labour on immigration. The only difference between the parties is that the Tories are more vicious and hate ordinary Britons marginally more than Labour does.

    Nothing is going to stop the British from committing suicide.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    , @MBlanc46
    @James Richard

    You may be correct about Manchester and Tory election chances, but as the singer Morrissey points out, May and the British political class bear a great share of the responsibility for the outrage.

  17. Glad to see that the Bannon-Miller wing still carries some influence.

    I’m sure it frustrated the Italians who are getting the brunt of the immivasion it seems these days. I’m guessing they were hoping for a relief valve to have other countries (especially outside of the EU like the United States) shoulder the burden. Who knew that western world leaders have the option to not invite millions of people who want to see us dead?

    Just a reminder to the blackpillers here who think that we’re no better off under Trump than we would be under Hillary. I guarantee you she would agree to an aggressive resettlement strategy in red and purple states so she can crystallize the one party rule.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Random Dude on the Internet


    Just a reminder to the blackpillers here who think that we’re no better off under Trump than we would be under Hillary.
     
    Come on, I don't think you're gonna find a soul on here who would think or write that. I would write, however, that we are no better off than we were last year, as the demographic and financial situations, along with the rising level of stupidity in general, are getting worse every year.

    Sure, Trump is much better than the Hildabeast, but we'd rather turn things around, and fast. Going downhill into the abyss at 100 mph vs. .9 Mach is a good thing unless we are only 100 miles away and we need more than an hour to get turned around.

    Get it, Hanson?

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    , @John Gruskos
    @Random Dude on the Internet

    "Better than Hillary" is the lowest of low bars.

    I was hoping for better than Ted or Rand on immigration and foreign policy.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  18. I like Steve’s idea about where to put the Syrian refugees: there’s this region of Syria that’s peaceful, well-watered, and relatively vacant . . .

  19. The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting for a century now. They could not even defeat the Ethiopians with tanks. The French have unfairly gotten a raw deal when it’s actually the Italians who are the weakest fighting force in Europe.

    I expect them to do nothing and see Italy disappear. Perhaps it may even break into its constituent kingdoms – as is the historic norm on the peninsula. In 30 years, I expect to see the Pantheon filled with Africans in bazaars selling Chinese copies of iPhones.

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @Yak-15


    The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting for a century now.
     
    The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting since the Roman Empire fell.

    FIFY.

    Replies: @John Gruskos

    , @Diversity Heretic
    @Yak-15

    In fairness, certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides. I don't think Italians could work up much enthusiasm for reestablishing the Roman Empire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @reiner Tor

  20. We are not forcing our policy on others

    Har, har! Like this is ever true when it comes to the United States.

  21. the plight of hundred of thousands of refugees who cross the Mediterranean Sea to Italy’s shores each year, and to reach agreement on a plan to find them permanent homes

    I want to know if any of these people are aware of just how big the African population growth is, Nigeria itself has 180 million people and still is growing. If they are going to offer free houses to everyone that decides to move to Europe have they crunched the numbers on how many they will need to build and how much this is going to cost.

    • Replies: @Ivy
    @neutral

    They were never good at solving those story problems.

    , @MBlanc46
    @neutral

    Not to worry about building new housing for the Africans. The elites will just give them our houses.

  22. White males and the supremacy they purvey our the scourge of the earth

    • Troll: German_reader, IHTG
    • Replies: @Lagertha
    @Tiny Duck

    and, you are an ugly girl....and, an old girl/perhaps boy. You do not matter in the NWO. Did someone not tell you this??????????????????????????? that you will not matter? Stop posting, please/save yourself...so embarrassing....more than me, which is my point.

  23. @Thomas
    This blog occasionally is like a truffle-hunting pig, finding good news in the weeds.

    It's probably too much to wish for, but maybe the FBI will pack Jared off where his father went, and Miller will be Trump's next fair-haired boy (though whether not being married to Ivanka will be bug or feature is a question).

    Replies: @IHTG, @JohnnyD, @Old fogey

    ,
    The best case scenario: Jared is removed from the White House and all of the Hillary supporters realize that Trump supporters don’t give a damn about Jared.

  24. … Italy’s Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni met Wednesday with President Trump in Rome and made a last-ditch effort to persuade the American president to soften his opposition to resettling more refugees in the United States and urged the United States to provide financial assistance for migrant rescue operations in the Mediterranean, according to USA Today.

    Translated from the original Italian: “Heya, Mr. Trumpa… coma fucka up your country lika mi country. Take-a the refugees …. I make you an offer you no canna refuse …”

    It remains unclear how Trump responded. …

    Fredo, I mean, Paulo, I love you like a brother, but you donna ever go against the family.” Bang, bang, bada-bing, bada-boom …”

    I’m glad we’ve got this Steve Miller back with us. Keepin on rockin’ me baby ….

    • Replies: @donut
    @Achmed E. Newman

    My oldman who was a "big shot" dot the "o" at Shell oil and always flew biudnes class or first class at the Co. expense right ? But once he was retired , true to his upbringing and his Great Depression history always looked for a bargain . So anyway for whatever reason he was flying out of Newark one day and booked a flight on Peoples Express , you remember them right ? The Greyhound of the air ways but w/o the luxury . Anyway he wasn't seated as he used to be what with his White privilege and all , and so the little bitch found himself amongst the common people . And who can blame him ? He panicked , LOL , and made a scene "let me off this plane " . Having been one of the common herd myself that he had such contempt for , I could sympathize with him . I don't blame him or criticize him for that . For most of my life I felt "less than" because I felt I could never measure up to his high standards , but tragically in the end when it came to a buck , with all the bucks he had , and he had a lot of bucks , he revealed his true grasping self , and where did that leave me ? Forget the money , God knows if I had it I spent it . No , it left me , I can't believe it but it left me "woke" to the sad and tragic fact that all men are dogs that only seek out wealth , power and pussy . And the saddest fact of all as far as my oldman is concerned is that he never once got even a taste of that good wet thing .

  25. @Random Dude on the Internet
    Glad to see that the Bannon-Miller wing still carries some influence.

    I'm sure it frustrated the Italians who are getting the brunt of the immivasion it seems these days. I'm guessing they were hoping for a relief valve to have other countries (especially outside of the EU like the United States) shoulder the burden. Who knew that western world leaders have the option to not invite millions of people who want to see us dead?

    Just a reminder to the blackpillers here who think that we're no better off under Trump than we would be under Hillary. I guarantee you she would agree to an aggressive resettlement strategy in red and purple states so she can crystallize the one party rule.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @John Gruskos

    Just a reminder to the blackpillers here who think that we’re no better off under Trump than we would be under Hillary.

    Come on, I don’t think you’re gonna find a soul on here who would think or write that. I would write, however, that we are no better off than we were last year, as the demographic and financial situations, along with the rising level of stupidity in general, are getting worse every year.

    Sure, Trump is much better than the Hildabeast, but we’d rather turn things around, and fast. Going downhill into the abyss at 100 mph vs. .9 Mach is a good thing unless we are only 100 miles away and we need more than an hour to get turned around.

    Get it, Hanson?

    • Agree: Dissident
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lmbo this is the kind of hedging and handwaving nonsense you blackpillers always run to when you can't run out and take the most mendacious and defeatist angle you possibly can on a subject.

    A cursory examination of your posting history (among others) puts the truth to this shameful backpedaling about how Trump has betrayed us.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  26. @neutral

    the plight of hundred of thousands of refugees who cross the Mediterranean Sea to Italy’s shores each year, and to reach agreement on a plan to find them permanent homes
     
    I want to know if any of these people are aware of just how big the African population growth is, Nigeria itself has 180 million people and still is growing. If they are going to offer free houses to everyone that decides to move to Europe have they crunched the numbers on how many they will need to build and how much this is going to cost.

    Replies: @Ivy, @MBlanc46

    They were never good at solving those story problems.

  27. @James Richard
    @Berty

    Opinion polls are engineered to influence public opinion not to measure it. That said, the Tory wobble in the polls due to Theresa May's "dementia tax" gaffe will be more than offset by the fear induced by the Arab suicide bomber in Manchester. Do you really think the Conservatives are not going to win after that?

    Replies: @dfordoom, @MBlanc46

    will be more than offset by the fear induced by the Arab suicide bomber in Manchester. Do you really think the Conservatives are not going to win after that?

    Agreed. The Tories will win in a landslide. Even though they’re every bit as atrocious as Labour on immigration. The only difference between the parties is that the Tories are more vicious and hate ordinary Britons marginally more than Labour does.

    Nothing is going to stop the British from committing suicide.

    • Replies: @MBlanc46
    @dfordoom

    Labour hate ordinary Brits less than the Tories do? Do you mean that British Leftists hate whites less than British so-called conservatives do?

    Replies: @dfordoom

  28. @Yak-15
    The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting for a century now. They could not even defeat the Ethiopians with tanks. The French have unfairly gotten a raw deal when it's actually the Italians who are the weakest fighting force in Europe.

    I expect them to do nothing and see Italy disappear. Perhaps it may even break into its constituent kingdoms - as is the historic norm on the peninsula. In 30 years, I expect to see the Pantheon filled with Africans in bazaars selling Chinese copies of iPhones.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Diversity Heretic

    The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting for a century now.

    The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting since the Roman Empire fell.

    FIFY.

    • Replies: @John Gruskos
    @dfordoom

    The Genoans, Venetians, and especially the Pisans wrested Mediterranean maritime supremacy away from the Muslims. This is one of the great epics of European history.

    Exploration is a semi-military undertaking; Columbus, Cabot, Vespucci, and Verrazano need to be taken into account.

    During the glory days of Philip II and Philip III, the best Spanish generals, Parma and Spinola, were Italians.

    During WWII, the British navy feared the daring of the Italian frogmen.

  29. the plight of hundred of thousands of refugees who cross the Mediterranean Sea to Italy’s shores

    But they don’t. The Italians pick them up just off the Libyan coast.

    The Italians were invented to make the French look less pathetic.

  30. @Tiny Duck
    White males and the supremacy they purvey our the scourge of the earth

    Replies: @Lagertha

    and, you are an ugly girl….and, an old girl/perhaps boy. You do not matter in the NWO. Did someone not tell you this??????????????????????????? that you will not matter? Stop posting, please/save yourself…so embarrassing….more than me, which is my point.

  31. @anonymous
    OT, but fascinating tale of Mr. James Comey's career, and from Jerry Pournelle no less. Wonder if he fabricated it or what.

    https://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/recovery-opinionanalysis-on-comey-and-draining-the-swamp-a-note-on-education/

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @englishmike

  32. @Forbes
    Since the Italian government sends their Navy (Coast Guard) to off- shore North Africa to pick up the migrants, and rather than repatriate them ashore (and confiscate the boats used in trafficking human cargo), they bring them to Italy--it is a self-inflicted problem.

    The true solution is to turn back the migrant hoards at the source. But instead, the Italian government has ruined their country by aiding and accepting the migrant flows. Now Italy wishes to share their mistake by recruiting other countries to share the burden of the failed policy.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous Nephew, @ben tillman

    I forget where I read it recently, but apparently the migrants Italy picks up are no longer heading north to Northern Europe — they are less welcome there, so they’re staying in Italy. So Italy getting caught holding the hot potato may be part of the dynamic here.

    But certainly, they should be towing the refugee boats back to Africa, offloading the refugees there, arresting the pilots, and then towing out and scuttling the boats.

    • Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    But certainly, they should be towing the refugee boats back to Africa, offloading the refugees there, arresting the pilots, and then towing out and scuttling the boats.
     
    Mamma mia! Instead of towing them anywhere, would it be unsporting to rake the occupied boats with .50 BMG rounds until sunk? Asking for a friend.

    Replies: @Pericles

    , @jim jones
    @Dave Pinsen

    My town, just outside London, is full of Italians. They are being driven out of their own country by Africans.

    , @Forbes
    @Dave Pinsen

    My sources in Italy tell me the government is handing out generous food and housing allowances, so no need to head to Northern Europe. And the natives no longer venture out at night as the streets aren't safe.

  33. @Forbes
    Since the Italian government sends their Navy (Coast Guard) to off- shore North Africa to pick up the migrants, and rather than repatriate them ashore (and confiscate the boats used in trafficking human cargo), they bring them to Italy--it is a self-inflicted problem.

    The true solution is to turn back the migrant hoards at the source. But instead, the Italian government has ruined their country by aiding and accepting the migrant flows. Now Italy wishes to share their mistake by recruiting other countries to share the burden of the failed policy.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous Nephew, @ben tillman

    We should remember that six or seven years ago both Italy and Libya had sensible (if dodgy) governments – Italy was run by Berlusconi, Libya by Gaddafi. They had a deal, a remarkably good one for Italy, by which the Italian national oil company developed Libya’s oil and gas resources (with doubtless some money going to the Libyan leadership), while Gaddafi stopped boats heading for Europe (in exchange for $5bn war reparations).

    Berlusconi was hated by the Economist and FT, who often emphasised “market anxieties over an imminent Italian financial disaster”, while Gaddafi was deposed by an armed coalition of the usual suspects. Cameron’s use of the RAF against Gaddafi has led to 22 Brit deaths in Manchester (and 30 in Sousse two years back), as well as filling Italy with Africans.

  34. @German_reader
    If true. that would finally be some good news from Trump's administration.

    Replies: @Diversity Heretic

    Agreed, it’s good news, although I wonder if it’s motivated by fears that Africans and Arabs will displace the wonderful Haitians that the Trump Administration has punted on sending back where they belong.

  35. @Yak-15
    The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting for a century now. They could not even defeat the Ethiopians with tanks. The French have unfairly gotten a raw deal when it's actually the Italians who are the weakest fighting force in Europe.

    I expect them to do nothing and see Italy disappear. Perhaps it may even break into its constituent kingdoms - as is the historic norm on the peninsula. In 30 years, I expect to see the Pantheon filled with Africans in bazaars selling Chinese copies of iPhones.

    Replies: @dfordoom, @Diversity Heretic

    In fairness, certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides. I don’t think Italians could work up much enthusiasm for reestablishing the Roman Empire.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Italians fought hard against the Austrians in WWI, launching 11 offensives straight up into the Alps. The Austrians finally got worn down and called the Germans in, who sliced through the Italians, but then the Italians rallied in the plains and drove the Germans back.

    Replies: @bored identity

    , @reiner Tor
    @Diversity Heretic


    certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides
     
    Their navy and air force had a reputation of fighting fairly well, too. Some of their navy divers sank some British vessels somewhere (perhaps in Alexandria? I'm lazy to look it up), I'd guess their elite or special forces (like the alpine troops and divers) were fairly good. (Some crazy daring acts of bravado fit well with the Italian character.)

    What I read is that basically Italy was the least prepared of all greater powers, because Mussolini didn't really want war at all (only the spoils), and whenever the Italian troops had no supply and/or untenable positions, they tended to fight poorly.

    They probably weren't worse than the British or Americans. (Just like the French, who also weren't worse than the British in 1940. In fact, it was two French divisions who cowardly fought rearguard actions to protect the heroic retreat of the British at Dunkirk.)

    As Steve has pointed out, they were tough in WW1 (though all countries were tough at the time, and they were propped up by French and British supplies), though perhaps they didn't fight well in the sense that they took a lot of unnecessary casualties (again, much like all countries at the time).

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @dfordoom

  36. @Diversity Heretic
    @Yak-15

    In fairness, certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides. I don't think Italians could work up much enthusiasm for reestablishing the Roman Empire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @reiner Tor

    The Italians fought hard against the Austrians in WWI, launching 11 offensives straight up into the Alps. The Austrians finally got worn down and called the Germans in, who sliced through the Italians, but then the Italians rallied in the plains and drove the Germans back.

    • Agree: Charles Pewitt
    • Replies: @bored identity
    @Steve Sailer

    Sailer, now you sound like Tdzak D;

    Are you sure it was 11 offensives?


    bored identity's sources claim it was only 9 real attempts, while other 2 lousy squirmishes are hardly to be glorified as offensives.


    K.u.k. Feldmarschall's Svetozar Boroević account of 'Gebirgskrieg' seems to be detail-flowless.


    Who should bored identity trust?

  37. @Dave Pinsen
    @Forbes

    I forget where I read it recently, but apparently the migrants Italy picks up are no longer heading north to Northern Europe -- they are less welcome there, so they're staying in Italy. So Italy getting caught holding the hot potato may be part of the dynamic here.

    But certainly, they should be towing the refugee boats back to Africa, offloading the refugees there, arresting the pilots, and then towing out and scuttling the boats.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jim jones, @Forbes

    But certainly, they should be towing the refugee boats back to Africa, offloading the refugees there, arresting the pilots, and then towing out and scuttling the boats.

    Mamma mia! Instead of towing them anywhere, would it be unsporting to rake the occupied boats with .50 BMG rounds until sunk? Asking for a friend.

    • Replies: @Pericles
    @Jenner Ickham Errican

    There could be terrorists on those boats so drone strike them like they're Afghan weddings. Hey, the most recent terrorist was even of Libyan origin. Strike them good and don't forget to take out the guiding smuggler ship nearby.

  38. @Steve Sailer
    @Diversity Heretic

    The Italians fought hard against the Austrians in WWI, launching 11 offensives straight up into the Alps. The Austrians finally got worn down and called the Germans in, who sliced through the Italians, but then the Italians rallied in the plains and drove the Germans back.

    Replies: @bored identity

    Sailer, now you sound like Tdzak D;

    Are you sure it was 11 offensives?

    bored identity’s sources claim it was only 9 real attempts, while other 2 lousy squirmishes are hardly to be glorified as offensives.

    K.u.k. Feldmarschall’s Svetozar Boroević account of ‘Gebirgskrieg’ seems to be detail-flowless.

    Who should bored identity trust?

    • LOL: DCThrowback
  39. @Diversity Heretic
    @Yak-15

    In fairness, certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides. I don't think Italians could work up much enthusiasm for reestablishing the Roman Empire.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @reiner Tor

    certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides

    Their navy and air force had a reputation of fighting fairly well, too. Some of their navy divers sank some British vessels somewhere (perhaps in Alexandria? I’m lazy to look it up), I’d guess their elite or special forces (like the alpine troops and divers) were fairly good. (Some crazy daring acts of bravado fit well with the Italian character.)

    What I read is that basically Italy was the least prepared of all greater powers, because Mussolini didn’t really want war at all (only the spoils), and whenever the Italian troops had no supply and/or untenable positions, they tended to fight poorly.

    They probably weren’t worse than the British or Americans. (Just like the French, who also weren’t worse than the British in 1940. In fact, it was two French divisions who cowardly fought rearguard actions to protect the heroic retreat of the British at Dunkirk.)

    As Steve has pointed out, they were tough in WW1 (though all countries were tough at the time, and they were propped up by French and British supplies), though perhaps they didn’t fight well in the sense that they took a lot of unnecessary casualties (again, much like all countries at the time).

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @reiner Tor

    If you look at the early days of WW-2, practically nobody was ready for war, which is the real reason the early Blitzkrieg succeeded ... even the German materiel was rather lame at that point. Fast forward to today, and ask yourself, as Trump asked the gang at NATO, just how well the modern social-welfare states of the EU would fare in a real fight.

    BTW, if you ask von der Lyin about meeting NATO commitments, she will tell you the money spent to have the NATO navies fishing migrants out of the Med counts toward those commitments. IOW, the EU is paying to be invaded ... who needs enemies with friends like these?

    , @snorlax
    @reiner Tor


    though perhaps they didn’t fight well in the sense that they took a lot of unnecessary casualties (again, much like all countries at the time).
     
    The [us?] Americans did pretty well at avoiding unnecessary casualties, except in the sense it was quite unnecessary to enter the war in the first place.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    , @dfordoom
    @reiner Tor


    Their navy and air force had a reputation of fighting fairly well, too.
     
    The Italian navy's problem was that they had no radar.

    What I read is that basically Italy was the least prepared of all greater powers, because Mussolini didn’t really want war at all
     
    Mussolini would have preferred an alliance with Britain and France. The Brits stuffed that up my making a fuss about Abyssinia (only Englishmen are allowed to beat up spear-armed natives and steal their countries). Had Mussolini achieved his alliance with Britain and France it's likely there would have been no war.
  40. @Charles Pewitt
    "For Italy, the summit in Taormina, Sicily, was to provide a poignant opportunity to raise awareness of the plight of hundred of thousands of refugees who cross the Mediterranean Sea to Italy’s shores each year, and to reach agreement on a plan to find them permanent homes."


    For Italy? No, not for Italy, dammit. The current ruling class of Italy doesn't speak for the people of Italy on the mass immigration invasion. The average Italian knows damn well they are being invaded from the third world. The evil and corrupt Italian government is allowing Italy to be invaded and destroyed by invaders from the third world.

    Replies: @englishmike, @The Alarmist

    The current ruling class of Italy doesn’t speak for the people of Italy on the mass immigration invasion.

    1. In which European nation does the “ruling class” speak for the people on that subject?

    2. In what way does the EU ruling class “speak for the people of Europe” on anything?

  41. @anonymous
    OT, but fascinating tale of Mr. James Comey's career, and from Jerry Pournelle no less. Wonder if he fabricated it or what.

    https://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/recovery-opinionanalysis-on-comey-and-draining-the-swamp-a-note-on-education/

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @englishmike

    As a commenter who has also drawn attention to this “fascinating tale”, in two threads at this site, may I say that it is highly recommended reading, even if you don’t buy every detail of the story.

    In fairness to Pournelle, he presents it as a piece sent to, not “fabricated by”, him; and he suggests that his readers might want to take some of it with a pinch of salt.

    FWIW, it sounds pretty convincing to me.

    On the other hand I’m intrigued by Scott Adams’s defence of Comey as an honourable man who has “taken two bullets for his country”.

    But then, Mark Antony thought that the conspirators who assassinated Julius Caesar in the Capitol were ” all honourable men”. According to Shakespeare. (Wonder if he fabricated it or what.)

    • Replies: @englishmike
    @englishmike

    Another fascinating development in the Comey-Russiagate story at The Conservative Treehouse, dated 25th May 2017 - this one about how Clapper and Brennan left Comey "holding the Russian conspiracy bag".

    I also came upon a report yesterday on the close relationship there has been in the past between Comey and the new Special Counsel, John Mueller. I don't remember where I found the report, but I recall the suggestion that they regarded it as a mentor-protege relationship.

    Look forward to hearing all about this swamp stuff in your truth-telling media.

    Replies: @englishmike

    , @Jonathan Mason
    @englishmike


    Mark Antony thought that the conspirators who assassinated Julius Caesar in the Capitol were ” all honorable men”. According to Shakespeare. (Wonder if he fabricated it or what.)
     
    I always thought those lines were intended to be heavily laden with irony. Even when I was 14.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

  42. @Lord Jeff Sessions
    OT: Zuck goes full (((Zuck))) at Harvard today:

    Today I want to talk about purpose. ...

    Purpose is that sense that we are part of something bigger than ourselves, that we are needed, that we have something better ahead to work for. Purpose is what creates true happiness.

    You're graduating at a time when this is especially important. When our parents graduated, purpose reliably came from your job, your church, your community. But today, technology and automation are eliminating many jobs. Membership in communities is declining. Many people feel disconnected and depressed, and are trying to fill a void. ...

    Today I want to talk about three ways to create a world where everyone has a sense of purpose: by taking on big meaningful projects together, by redefining equality so everyone has the freedom to pursue purpose, and by building community across the world.

    First, let's take on big meaningful projects.

    Our generation will have to deal with tens of millions of jobs replaced by automation like self-driving cars and trucks.

    More than 300,000 people worked to put a man on the moon – including that janitor. Millions of volunteers immunized children around the world against polio. Millions of more people built the Hoover dam and other great projects.

    These projects didn't just provide purpose for the people doing those jobs, they gave our whole country a sense of pride that we could do great things.

    The second is redefining equality to give everyone the freedom they need to pursue purpose.

    Many of our parents had stable jobs throughout their careers. Now we're all entrepreneurial, whether we're starting projects or finding or role. And that's great. ...

    But today, we have a level of wealth inequality that hurts everyone. When you don't have the freedom to take your idea and turn it into a historic enterprise, we all lose.

    Every generation expands its definition of equality. Previous generations fought for the vote and civil rights. They had the New Deal and Great Society. Now it's our time to define a new social contract for our generation.

    We should have a society that measures progress not just by economic metrics like GDP, but by how many of us have a role we find meaningful. We should explore ideas like universal basic income to give everyone a cushion to try new things. We’re going to change jobs many times, so we need affordable childcare to get to work and healthcare that aren't tied to one company. We're all going to make mistakes, so we need a society that focuses less on locking us up or stigmatizing us. And as technology keeps changing, we need to focus more on continuous education throughout our lives. ...

    The third way we can create a sense of purpose for everyone is by building community. And when our generation says "everyone", we mean everyone in the world. ...

    Quick show of hands: how many of you are from another country? Now, how many of you are friends with one of these folks? Now we're talking. We have grown up connected.

    In a survey asking millennials around the world what defines our identity, the most popular answer wasn't nationality, religion or ethnicity, it was "citizen of the world". That's a big deal.

    We get that our greatest opportunities are now global -- we can be the generation that ends poverty, that ends disease. We get that our greatest challenges need global responses too -- no country can fight climate change alone or prevent pandemics. Progress now requires coming together not just as cities or nations, but also as a global community.

    But we live in an unstable time. There are people left behind by globalization across the world. It's hard to care about people in other places if we don’t feel good about our lives here at home. There’s pressure to turn inwards.

    This is the struggle of our time. The forces of freedom, openness and global community against the forces of authoritarianism, isolationism and nationalism. Forces for the flow of knowledge, trade and immigration against those who would slow them down. This is not a battle of nations, it's a battle of ideas. There are people in every country for global connection and good people against it.

    This isn't going to be decided at the UN either. It's going to happen at the local level, when enough of us feel a sense of purpose and stability in our own lives that we can open up and start caring about everyone. The best way to do that is to start building local communities right now.

    We all get meaning from our communities. Whether our communities are houses or sports teams, churches or music groups, they give us that sense we are part of something bigger, that we are not alone; they give us the strength to expand our horizons.

    That's why it's so striking that for decades, membership in all kinds of groups has declined as much as one-quarter. That's a lot of people who now need to find purpose somewhere else.

    Remember when I told you about that class I taught at the Boys and Girls Club? One day after class I was talking to them about college, and one of my top students raised his hand and said he wasn't sure he could go because he's undocumented. He didn't know if they'd let him in.

    Last year I took him out to breakfast for his birthday. I wanted to get him a present, so I asked him and he started talking about students he saw struggling and said "You know, I'd really just like a book on social justice."

    It says something about our current situation that I can't even say his name because I don't want to put him at risk. But if a high school senior who doesn't know what the future holds can do his part to move the world forward, then we owe it to the world to do our part too.

    Before you walk out those gates one last time, as we sit in front of Memorial Church, I am reminded of a prayer, Mi Shebeirach, that I say whenever I face a challenge, that I sing to my daughter thinking about her future when I tuck her into bed. It goes:

    "May the source of strength, who blessed the ones before us, help us *find the courage* to make our lives a blessing."

    I hope you find the courage to make your life a blessing.

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-zuckerberg/harvard-commencement-2017/10154853758606634/

     

    The first 1/4th of the speech is charming anecdotes about his time at Harvard, the bottom 3/4ths is basically straight David Brooks.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @27 year old, @Paul Yarbles

    Zuck: But today, technology and automation are eliminating many jobs. Membership in communities is declining. Many people feel disconnected and depressed, and are trying to fill a void. …

    And the solution is … wait for it … more low-IQ immigrants! Oh, and I’ll need to add another layer of razor wire to the wall around my compound.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Harry Baldwin

    Where is our Marc Zuckerburg? I enjoy his semi-monthly comments on the goings on with the Zuckerburg clan and how comprehensive they are getting. Seriously, he cracks me up, as does Tiny Duck

    I don't know why some of the intelligent people on here get taken in by TD. He obviously writes satire, and I think he is pretty good at what he does. There's a guy like him on about every good blog - ZeroHedge's one was, or still is, a guy with the handle "MillionDollarBonus".

    Yeah, but I have missed our comprehensive reformist lately. Marc?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    , @Buck Turgidson
    @Harry Baldwin

    More low-I.Q. immigrants on the other side of Zuck's wall and off his property, and lawn.
    Since Zuck is in such a generous mood to give away money, and since he has more than his share ("has enough" to quote obozo), why doesn't he open his wallet and start writing some $10K checks? Zuck is an insufferable arrogant hypocrite liberal do-gooder pain in the arse.

  43. @englishmike
    @anonymous

    As a commenter who has also drawn attention to this "fascinating tale", in two threads at this site, may I say that it is highly recommended reading, even if you don't buy every detail of the story.

    In fairness to Pournelle, he presents it as a piece sent to, not "fabricated by", him; and he suggests that his readers might want to take some of it with a pinch of salt.

    FWIW, it sounds pretty convincing to me.

    On the other hand I'm intrigued by Scott Adams's defence of Comey as an honourable man who has "taken two bullets for his country".

    But then, Mark Antony thought that the conspirators who assassinated Julius Caesar in the Capitol were " all honourable men". According to Shakespeare. (Wonder if he fabricated it or what.)

    Replies: @englishmike, @Jonathan Mason

    Another fascinating development in the Comey-Russiagate story at The Conservative Treehouse, dated 25th May 2017 – this one about how Clapper and Brennan left Comey “holding the Russian conspiracy bag”.

    I also came upon a report yesterday on the close relationship there has been in the past between Comey and the new Special Counsel, John Mueller. I don’t remember where I found the report, but I recall the suggestion that they regarded it as a mentor-protege relationship.

    Look forward to hearing all about this swamp stuff in your truth-telling media.

    • Replies: @englishmike
    @englishmike

    I hope this will be my final comment on this "off topic"...

    Robert Mueller, not John. And the report on the Comey-Mueller relationship was Gregg Jarrett: Why Robert Mueller should resign as special counsel on the Fox News site.

    Here's a key quotation:

    Identical rules govern prosecutors who, for example, must recuse themselves from handling a case against a person with whom they have worked or had a personal relationship.  The same would be true if a prosecutor had a close relationship with a witness in the case.  The prior association raises the real or perceived possibility of prejudice or favoritism which is contrary to the fair administration of justice.
    So what exactly is Mueller’s conflict?  He and Comey are good friends and former colleagues who worked hand-in-hand at the FBI and Department of Justice. Agents will tell you they were joined at the hip.  They stood together in solidarity, both threatening to resign over the warrantless wiretapping fiasco involving then-Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2004.
    Comey regards his predecessor as a mentor, while Mueller considers Comey his protégé.  When Comey was appointed to succeed Mueller as FBI Director, both men appeared together and were effusive in their praise of one another.  Their relationship is not merely a casual one.  It is precisely the kind of association which ethical rules are designed to guard against.     


    And the irony of both threatening to resign over the warrantless wiretapping fiasco!

  44. @Random Dude on the Internet
    Glad to see that the Bannon-Miller wing still carries some influence.

    I'm sure it frustrated the Italians who are getting the brunt of the immivasion it seems these days. I'm guessing they were hoping for a relief valve to have other countries (especially outside of the EU like the United States) shoulder the burden. Who knew that western world leaders have the option to not invite millions of people who want to see us dead?

    Just a reminder to the blackpillers here who think that we're no better off under Trump than we would be under Hillary. I guarantee you she would agree to an aggressive resettlement strategy in red and purple states so she can crystallize the one party rule.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @John Gruskos

    “Better than Hillary” is the lowest of low bars.

    I was hoping for better than Ted or Rand on immigration and foreign policy.

    • Agree: reiner Tor
    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @John Gruskos

    Ted or Rand would have run into the same problems with the unelected mandarins in the judiciary deciding THEY decide what powers the President gets, and those powers seem to change depending on which party holds the Executive.

    Edit: You really think lolbertarian Rand wouldn't haven been importing billions from the turd world because a 0.5% bump in GDP from toilet paper sales is worth the destruction of a nation?

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  45. @englishmike
    @englishmike

    Another fascinating development in the Comey-Russiagate story at The Conservative Treehouse, dated 25th May 2017 - this one about how Clapper and Brennan left Comey "holding the Russian conspiracy bag".

    I also came upon a report yesterday on the close relationship there has been in the past between Comey and the new Special Counsel, John Mueller. I don't remember where I found the report, but I recall the suggestion that they regarded it as a mentor-protege relationship.

    Look forward to hearing all about this swamp stuff in your truth-telling media.

    Replies: @englishmike

    I hope this will be my final comment on this “off topic”…

    Robert Mueller, not John. And the report on the Comey-Mueller relationship was Gregg Jarrett: Why Robert Mueller should resign as special counsel on the Fox News site.

    Here’s a key quotation:

    Identical rules govern prosecutors who, for example, must recuse themselves from handling a case against a person with whom they have worked or had a personal relationship.  The same would be true if a prosecutor had a close relationship with a witness in the case.  The prior association raises the real or perceived possibility of prejudice or favoritism which is contrary to the fair administration of justice.
    So what exactly is Mueller’s conflict?  He and Comey are good friends and former colleagues who worked hand-in-hand at the FBI and Department of Justice. Agents will tell you they were joined at the hip.  They stood together in solidarity, both threatening to resign over the warrantless wiretapping fiasco involving then-Attorney General John Ashcroft in 2004.
    Comey regards his predecessor as a mentor, while Mueller considers Comey his protégé.  When Comey was appointed to succeed Mueller as FBI Director, both men appeared together and were effusive in their praise of one another.  Their relationship is not merely a casual one.  It is precisely the kind of association which ethical rules are designed to guard against.     

    And the irony of both threatening to resign over the warrantless wiretapping fiasco!

  46. @dfordoom
    @Yak-15


    The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting for a century now.
     
    The Italians have not show much in the way of fighting since the Roman Empire fell.

    FIFY.

    Replies: @John Gruskos

    The Genoans, Venetians, and especially the Pisans wrested Mediterranean maritime supremacy away from the Muslims. This is one of the great epics of European history.

    Exploration is a semi-military undertaking; Columbus, Cabot, Vespucci, and Verrazano need to be taken into account.

    During the glory days of Philip II and Philip III, the best Spanish generals, Parma and Spinola, were Italians.

    During WWII, the British navy feared the daring of the Italian frogmen.

  47. KenH says:

    I just breathed a sigh of relief since it seemed Donald was drifting left on immigration and the wall. Princess Ivanka has expressed a desire to import more Muslim refugees and that gave me pause since I feared Trump would do just that to put a smile on her pretty face.

    But we also have to remember that Trump can change within days just like when he said we had no plans to marginalize Assad then three days later launched tomahawk missiles at a Syrian air force base.

    • Replies: @Ed
    @KenH

    This is inaccurate Trump has not drifted left on immigration or the wall. The Wall is being thwarted by the GOP congress. That Trump doesn't want to shut down gov't over it is to his credit. Immigration arrests are up 40%, illegal entries have plummeted . Highly publicized immigrants subject to deportation are actually deported. Immigrants here on Temporary Status such as Haitians & Liberians have seen their statuses expired or warned that they will be.

    Immigration restrictionists aren't getting everything we want but Trump is still far better than the alternatives of both parties.

    Replies: @KenH

  48. @Harry Baldwin
    @Lord Jeff Sessions

    Zuck: But today, technology and automation are eliminating many jobs. Membership in communities is declining. Many people feel disconnected and depressed, and are trying to fill a void. …

    And the solution is ... wait for it ... more low-IQ immigrants! Oh, and I'll need to add another layer of razor wire to the wall around my compound.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Buck Turgidson

    Where is our Marc Zuckerburg? I enjoy his semi-monthly comments on the goings on with the Zuckerburg clan and how comprehensive they are getting. Seriously, he cracks me up, as does Tiny Duck

    I don’t know why some of the intelligent people on here get taken in by TD. He obviously writes satire, and I think he is pretty good at what he does. There’s a guy like him on about every good blog – ZeroHedge’s one was, or still is, a guy with the handle “MillionDollarBonus”.

    Yeah, but I have missed our comprehensive reformist lately. Marc?

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Achmed E. Newman

    TD is pretty good at satire, but the same gag after a couple of years gets tiresome. I noticed that he took a break after the election to celebrate , but apparently eventually downed a few aspirins, cleaned up the confetti and empty champagne bottles, and returned to the same routine. I think he still finds it amusing, but some of the rest of us mostly skip over his comments now since it is yeah, yeah, I get it, the same old shtick. I think the writer needs to reinvent himself into a new persona.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  49. @Luke Lea
    Taking refugees is like paying ransom to kidnappers: encourages more of the same

    Replies: @27 year old

    President Trump should totally pull the scene from the movie Ransom and go on TV with bricks of cash on the Oval Office desk and say “this was YOUR money that the corrupt establishment wanted to spend on servies for illegals. I’m turning it into a bounty. Anyone who provides information leading to the deportation of an illegal immigrant will receive a tax free reward of X dollars. Anyone who provides information leading to the arrest of an employer who hires illegals will receive a tax free reward of 3X dollars. You can find details on Whitehouse.gov for how to submit information and claim your reward. Goodnight and God bless America.”

    • Replies: @Joe Schmoe
    @27 year old

    The phone would be ringing off the hook at "la migra" with immigrants calling in to report any illegal they were ticked off at if there were a substantial reward for turning illegals in.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

  50. @Lord Jeff Sessions
    OT: Zuck goes full (((Zuck))) at Harvard today:

    Today I want to talk about purpose. ...

    Purpose is that sense that we are part of something bigger than ourselves, that we are needed, that we have something better ahead to work for. Purpose is what creates true happiness.

    You're graduating at a time when this is especially important. When our parents graduated, purpose reliably came from your job, your church, your community. But today, technology and automation are eliminating many jobs. Membership in communities is declining. Many people feel disconnected and depressed, and are trying to fill a void. ...

    Today I want to talk about three ways to create a world where everyone has a sense of purpose: by taking on big meaningful projects together, by redefining equality so everyone has the freedom to pursue purpose, and by building community across the world.

    First, let's take on big meaningful projects.

    Our generation will have to deal with tens of millions of jobs replaced by automation like self-driving cars and trucks.

    More than 300,000 people worked to put a man on the moon – including that janitor. Millions of volunteers immunized children around the world against polio. Millions of more people built the Hoover dam and other great projects.

    These projects didn't just provide purpose for the people doing those jobs, they gave our whole country a sense of pride that we could do great things.

    The second is redefining equality to give everyone the freedom they need to pursue purpose.

    Many of our parents had stable jobs throughout their careers. Now we're all entrepreneurial, whether we're starting projects or finding or role. And that's great. ...

    But today, we have a level of wealth inequality that hurts everyone. When you don't have the freedom to take your idea and turn it into a historic enterprise, we all lose.

    Every generation expands its definition of equality. Previous generations fought for the vote and civil rights. They had the New Deal and Great Society. Now it's our time to define a new social contract for our generation.

    We should have a society that measures progress not just by economic metrics like GDP, but by how many of us have a role we find meaningful. We should explore ideas like universal basic income to give everyone a cushion to try new things. We’re going to change jobs many times, so we need affordable childcare to get to work and healthcare that aren't tied to one company. We're all going to make mistakes, so we need a society that focuses less on locking us up or stigmatizing us. And as technology keeps changing, we need to focus more on continuous education throughout our lives. ...

    The third way we can create a sense of purpose for everyone is by building community. And when our generation says "everyone", we mean everyone in the world. ...

    Quick show of hands: how many of you are from another country? Now, how many of you are friends with one of these folks? Now we're talking. We have grown up connected.

    In a survey asking millennials around the world what defines our identity, the most popular answer wasn't nationality, religion or ethnicity, it was "citizen of the world". That's a big deal.

    We get that our greatest opportunities are now global -- we can be the generation that ends poverty, that ends disease. We get that our greatest challenges need global responses too -- no country can fight climate change alone or prevent pandemics. Progress now requires coming together not just as cities or nations, but also as a global community.

    But we live in an unstable time. There are people left behind by globalization across the world. It's hard to care about people in other places if we don’t feel good about our lives here at home. There’s pressure to turn inwards.

    This is the struggle of our time. The forces of freedom, openness and global community against the forces of authoritarianism, isolationism and nationalism. Forces for the flow of knowledge, trade and immigration against those who would slow them down. This is not a battle of nations, it's a battle of ideas. There are people in every country for global connection and good people against it.

    This isn't going to be decided at the UN either. It's going to happen at the local level, when enough of us feel a sense of purpose and stability in our own lives that we can open up and start caring about everyone. The best way to do that is to start building local communities right now.

    We all get meaning from our communities. Whether our communities are houses or sports teams, churches or music groups, they give us that sense we are part of something bigger, that we are not alone; they give us the strength to expand our horizons.

    That's why it's so striking that for decades, membership in all kinds of groups has declined as much as one-quarter. That's a lot of people who now need to find purpose somewhere else.

    Remember when I told you about that class I taught at the Boys and Girls Club? One day after class I was talking to them about college, and one of my top students raised his hand and said he wasn't sure he could go because he's undocumented. He didn't know if they'd let him in.

    Last year I took him out to breakfast for his birthday. I wanted to get him a present, so I asked him and he started talking about students he saw struggling and said "You know, I'd really just like a book on social justice."

    It says something about our current situation that I can't even say his name because I don't want to put him at risk. But if a high school senior who doesn't know what the future holds can do his part to move the world forward, then we owe it to the world to do our part too.

    Before you walk out those gates one last time, as we sit in front of Memorial Church, I am reminded of a prayer, Mi Shebeirach, that I say whenever I face a challenge, that I sing to my daughter thinking about her future when I tuck her into bed. It goes:

    "May the source of strength, who blessed the ones before us, help us *find the courage* to make our lives a blessing."

    I hope you find the courage to make your life a blessing.

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-zuckerberg/harvard-commencement-2017/10154853758606634/

     

    The first 1/4th of the speech is charming anecdotes about his time at Harvard, the bottom 3/4ths is basically straight David Brooks.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @27 year old, @Paul Yarbles

    There’s a lot of good things in there (GDP skepticism, universal income), but he is so full of shit. Will be interesting when he launches his political career

  51. WJ says:

    Apparently Mr. Miller was instrumental in ensuring that the Gang of 8 travesty amnesty in 2013, did not survive in the House. If true, Mr. Miller is a true American hero on par with the legends of our past. Eric Cantor’s primary defeat also had something to do with it but Miller’s lobbying tactics stalled the thing for a year after it’s initial Senate passage.

    • Agree: Dan Hayes
  52. @Charles Pewitt
    "For Italy, the summit in Taormina, Sicily, was to provide a poignant opportunity to raise awareness of the plight of hundred of thousands of refugees who cross the Mediterranean Sea to Italy’s shores each year, and to reach agreement on a plan to find them permanent homes."


    For Italy? No, not for Italy, dammit. The current ruling class of Italy doesn't speak for the people of Italy on the mass immigration invasion. The average Italian knows damn well they are being invaded from the third world. The evil and corrupt Italian government is allowing Italy to be invaded and destroyed by invaders from the third world.

    Replies: @englishmike, @The Alarmist

    “The evil and corrupt Italian government is allowing Italy to be invaded and destroyed by invaders from the third world.”

    The evil and corrupt government is funneling a lot of EU money to a lot of people to take in and manage the refugees. It has become a new Industry for Italy … Italian civilsation be damned! Likewise in other EU countries that get all misty-eyed over the tidal-wave that is engulfing and smothering native European culture. The elites, like those to the north figure they can retire to gated communities with lots of guards, and it will all be fine, just like Brazil, so screw the little people, ‘cos Brazil ain’t so bad, right?

    Really something to think that the only European culture that may exist in 100 years in any appreciable size is that of Poland, Czechia, and Hungary.

    • Replies: @Charles Pewitt
    @The Alarmist

    Sam Francis said that ruling classes will always run things. Ruling classes must be dislodged or changed. I think the Globalizers will be obliterated when the monetary extremism exhausts itself. The Normans dislodged the Saxons in England, and Patriots will defeat and dislodge the Globalizers.

    The Wall Street Journal did a story on all the moneygrubbers cashing in on the mass immigration invasion of Italy and the other European nations. In the United States, there are plenty of landlords and business owners and refugee resettlement outfits who profit from the mass immigration invasion currently underway.

    Wall Street Journal story on mass immigration invasion profiteers:

    https://twitter.com/MattMcBradley/status/643766624370184192

  53. @reiner Tor
    @Diversity Heretic


    certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides
     
    Their navy and air force had a reputation of fighting fairly well, too. Some of their navy divers sank some British vessels somewhere (perhaps in Alexandria? I'm lazy to look it up), I'd guess their elite or special forces (like the alpine troops and divers) were fairly good. (Some crazy daring acts of bravado fit well with the Italian character.)

    What I read is that basically Italy was the least prepared of all greater powers, because Mussolini didn't really want war at all (only the spoils), and whenever the Italian troops had no supply and/or untenable positions, they tended to fight poorly.

    They probably weren't worse than the British or Americans. (Just like the French, who also weren't worse than the British in 1940. In fact, it was two French divisions who cowardly fought rearguard actions to protect the heroic retreat of the British at Dunkirk.)

    As Steve has pointed out, they were tough in WW1 (though all countries were tough at the time, and they were propped up by French and British supplies), though perhaps they didn't fight well in the sense that they took a lot of unnecessary casualties (again, much like all countries at the time).

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @dfordoom

    If you look at the early days of WW-2, practically nobody was ready for war, which is the real reason the early Blitzkrieg succeeded … even the German materiel was rather lame at that point. Fast forward to today, and ask yourself, as Trump asked the gang at NATO, just how well the modern social-welfare states of the EU would fare in a real fight.

    BTW, if you ask von der Lyin about meeting NATO commitments, she will tell you the money spent to have the NATO navies fishing migrants out of the Med counts toward those commitments. IOW, the EU is paying to be invaded … who needs enemies with friends like these?

  54. Jack Hanson says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @Random Dude on the Internet


    Just a reminder to the blackpillers here who think that we’re no better off under Trump than we would be under Hillary.
     
    Come on, I don't think you're gonna find a soul on here who would think or write that. I would write, however, that we are no better off than we were last year, as the demographic and financial situations, along with the rising level of stupidity in general, are getting worse every year.

    Sure, Trump is much better than the Hildabeast, but we'd rather turn things around, and fast. Going downhill into the abyss at 100 mph vs. .9 Mach is a good thing unless we are only 100 miles away and we need more than an hour to get turned around.

    Get it, Hanson?

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    Lmbo this is the kind of hedging and handwaving nonsense you blackpillers always run to when you can’t run out and take the most mendacious and defeatist angle you possibly can on a subject.

    A cursory examination of your posting history (among others) puts the truth to this shameful backpedaling about how Trump has betrayed us.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Hanson

    Trump has betrayed us quite a bit. It's hard for you to put two non-conflicting but not similar, call them orthogonal thoughts, together, isn't it, Jack.

    * The guy has let us down.

    * He is still much, much better than the Hildabeast.

    * The country is still going down the tubes, just a bit slower.

    * We need to get things turned around before it's too late for anyone to fix it.

    The HansonBot says: "This does not compute. Muh black pills. These statements don't mean the same thing. These statements don't contradict one another. This is backpedaling. My registers have no more space. Don't open the pod bay doors. I ... can't ... what is ..... happening .... Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do, I'm so crazy, just for the love of you ..."

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  55. @John Gruskos
    @Random Dude on the Internet

    "Better than Hillary" is the lowest of low bars.

    I was hoping for better than Ted or Rand on immigration and foreign policy.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    Ted or Rand would have run into the same problems with the unelected mandarins in the judiciary deciding THEY decide what powers the President gets, and those powers seem to change depending on which party holds the Executive.

    Edit: You really think lolbertarian Rand wouldn’t haven been importing billions from the turd world because a 0.5% bump in GDP from toilet paper sales is worth the destruction of a nation?

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  56. @reiner Tor
    @Diversity Heretic


    certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides
     
    Their navy and air force had a reputation of fighting fairly well, too. Some of their navy divers sank some British vessels somewhere (perhaps in Alexandria? I'm lazy to look it up), I'd guess their elite or special forces (like the alpine troops and divers) were fairly good. (Some crazy daring acts of bravado fit well with the Italian character.)

    What I read is that basically Italy was the least prepared of all greater powers, because Mussolini didn't really want war at all (only the spoils), and whenever the Italian troops had no supply and/or untenable positions, they tended to fight poorly.

    They probably weren't worse than the British or Americans. (Just like the French, who also weren't worse than the British in 1940. In fact, it was two French divisions who cowardly fought rearguard actions to protect the heroic retreat of the British at Dunkirk.)

    As Steve has pointed out, they were tough in WW1 (though all countries were tough at the time, and they were propped up by French and British supplies), though perhaps they didn't fight well in the sense that they took a lot of unnecessary casualties (again, much like all countries at the time).

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @dfordoom

    though perhaps they didn’t fight well in the sense that they took a lot of unnecessary casualties (again, much like all countries at the time).

    The [us?] Americans did pretty well at avoiding unnecessary casualties, except in the sense it was quite unnecessary to enter the war in the first place.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @snorlax

    You entered the war at the very last moment, when there was no longer trench warfare. Most unnecessary casualties occurred before and during trench warfare, but little after that. By that time militaries got a sense of what tactics worked best with the then extant technologies.

    Replies: @snorlax

  57. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Harry Baldwin

    Where is our Marc Zuckerburg? I enjoy his semi-monthly comments on the goings on with the Zuckerburg clan and how comprehensive they are getting. Seriously, he cracks me up, as does Tiny Duck

    I don't know why some of the intelligent people on here get taken in by TD. He obviously writes satire, and I think he is pretty good at what he does. There's a guy like him on about every good blog - ZeroHedge's one was, or still is, a guy with the handle "MillionDollarBonus".

    Yeah, but I have missed our comprehensive reformist lately. Marc?

    Replies: @Alfa158

    TD is pretty good at satire, but the same gag after a couple of years gets tiresome. I noticed that he took a break after the election to celebrate , but apparently eventually downed a few aspirins, cleaned up the confetti and empty champagne bottles, and returned to the same routine. I think he still finds it amusing, but some of the rest of us mostly skip over his comments now since it is yeah, yeah, I get it, the same old shtick. I think the writer needs to reinvent himself into a new persona.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Alfa158

    Well, Alta, that's all fine, what you said, but I'm writing about the people that take him seriously and spend precious time of their day writing back to him, as if he needs to be corrected. I'm sure TD likes it when this happens, as I would too, were I in his position of Sailer's own Satirist.

    Skipping TD's comments make sense if, in your opinion, his routine has gone downhill. There are only a few people I skip, and one is Corvinus, and any post in reply to him, as it just goes on and on .... Some people, ya just cain't reach ...

    Replies: @Alfa158

  58. @snorlax
    @reiner Tor


    though perhaps they didn’t fight well in the sense that they took a lot of unnecessary casualties (again, much like all countries at the time).
     
    The [us?] Americans did pretty well at avoiding unnecessary casualties, except in the sense it was quite unnecessary to enter the war in the first place.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    You entered the war at the very last moment, when there was no longer trench warfare. Most unnecessary casualties occurred before and during trench warfare, but little after that. By that time militaries got a sense of what tactics worked best with the then extant technologies.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @reiner Tor

    True, but that's sorta begging the question — it was "the very last moment" and the end of trench warfare because the US entry was the decisive factor that broke the stalemate on the Western Front.

    And the other fronts (Eastern, Italian, Balkan, Caucasian, Middle Eastern) weren't "trench warfare" (at least no more so than the US Civil, Boer or Russo-Japanese Wars were "trench warfare") but nevertheless were proportionately as bloody as the Western.

    Replies: @German_reader, @reiner Tor

  59. My goodness, he’s not actually doing at least a little bit of what he said he was going to do, is he?

  60. @James Richard
    @Berty

    Opinion polls are engineered to influence public opinion not to measure it. That said, the Tory wobble in the polls due to Theresa May's "dementia tax" gaffe will be more than offset by the fear induced by the Arab suicide bomber in Manchester. Do you really think the Conservatives are not going to win after that?

    Replies: @dfordoom, @MBlanc46

    You may be correct about Manchester and Tory election chances, but as the singer Morrissey points out, May and the British political class bear a great share of the responsibility for the outrage.

  61. @neutral

    the plight of hundred of thousands of refugees who cross the Mediterranean Sea to Italy’s shores each year, and to reach agreement on a plan to find them permanent homes
     
    I want to know if any of these people are aware of just how big the African population growth is, Nigeria itself has 180 million people and still is growing. If they are going to offer free houses to everyone that decides to move to Europe have they crunched the numbers on how many they will need to build and how much this is going to cost.

    Replies: @Ivy, @MBlanc46

    Not to worry about building new housing for the Africans. The elites will just give them our houses.

  62. @dfordoom
    @James Richard


    will be more than offset by the fear induced by the Arab suicide bomber in Manchester. Do you really think the Conservatives are not going to win after that?
     
    Agreed. The Tories will win in a landslide. Even though they're every bit as atrocious as Labour on immigration. The only difference between the parties is that the Tories are more vicious and hate ordinary Britons marginally more than Labour does.

    Nothing is going to stop the British from committing suicide.

    Replies: @MBlanc46

    Labour hate ordinary Brits less than the Tories do? Do you mean that British Leftists hate whites less than British so-called conservatives do?

    • Replies: @dfordoom
    @MBlanc46


    Labour hate ordinary Brits less than the Tories do? Do you mean that British Leftists hate whites less than British so-called conservatives do?
     
    It has little to do with whiteness - the Tories hate anyone who's poor and non-elite.
  63. @The Alarmist
    @Charles Pewitt


    "The evil and corrupt Italian government is allowing Italy to be invaded and destroyed by invaders from the third world."
     
    The evil and corrupt government is funneling a lot of EU money to a lot of people to take in and manage the refugees. It has become a new Industry for Italy ... Italian civilsation be damned! Likewise in other EU countries that get all misty-eyed over the tidal-wave that is engulfing and smothering native European culture. The elites, like those to the north figure they can retire to gated communities with lots of guards, and it will all be fine, just like Brazil, so screw the little people, 'cos Brazil ain't so bad, right?

    Really something to think that the only European culture that may exist in 100 years in any appreciable size is that of Poland, Czechia, and Hungary.

    Replies: @Charles Pewitt

    Sam Francis said that ruling classes will always run things. Ruling classes must be dislodged or changed. I think the Globalizers will be obliterated when the monetary extremism exhausts itself. The Normans dislodged the Saxons in England, and Patriots will defeat and dislodge the Globalizers.

    The Wall Street Journal did a story on all the moneygrubbers cashing in on the mass immigration invasion of Italy and the other European nations. In the United States, there are plenty of landlords and business owners and refugee resettlement outfits who profit from the mass immigration invasion currently underway.

    Wall Street Journal story on mass immigration invasion profiteers:

  64. OT but wondering if anyone has seen the world GDP per capita from the World Bank recently.

    http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.PCAP.CD

    Supposedly everything should be going swimmingly, globalization lifting all boats, etc. but from the looks of it, the recent downturn in GDP per capita is sharper than during the 2007 meltdown and yet there is not much discussion or coverage.

    Anyone interested in unpacking/explaining that chart?

  65. @reiner Tor
    @snorlax

    You entered the war at the very last moment, when there was no longer trench warfare. Most unnecessary casualties occurred before and during trench warfare, but little after that. By that time militaries got a sense of what tactics worked best with the then extant technologies.

    Replies: @snorlax

    True, but that’s sorta begging the question — it was “the very last moment” and the end of trench warfare because the US entry was the decisive factor that broke the stalemate on the Western Front.

    And the other fronts (Eastern, Italian, Balkan, Caucasian, Middle Eastern) weren’t “trench warfare” (at least no more so than the US Civil, Boer or Russo-Japanese Wars were “trench warfare”) but nevertheless were proportionately as bloody as the Western.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @snorlax


    and the end of trench warfare because the US entry was the decisive factor that broke the stalemate on the Western Front.
     
    Well yes, but the Germans had already exhausted themselves with their offensive in spring 1918 (when they almost broke through to Paris). Also the western allies (the British especially iirc) had tanks by 1918 and had perfected tactics for the coordination of artillery barrages and infantry assaults, which allowed for breaking the stalemate and returning to a war of movement.
    Though US manpower certainly played an important role (just to what degree is still controversial as far as I know).

    Replies: @snorlax, @dfordoom

    , @reiner Tor
    @snorlax

    There was already no trench warfare by late 1917. The American troops arrived in the summer of 1918.

    Replies: @snorlax

  66. @Jenner Ickham Errican
    @Dave Pinsen


    But certainly, they should be towing the refugee boats back to Africa, offloading the refugees there, arresting the pilots, and then towing out and scuttling the boats.
     
    Mamma mia! Instead of towing them anywhere, would it be unsporting to rake the occupied boats with .50 BMG rounds until sunk? Asking for a friend.

    Replies: @Pericles

    There could be terrorists on those boats so drone strike them like they’re Afghan weddings. Hey, the most recent terrorist was even of Libyan origin. Strike them good and don’t forget to take out the guiding smuggler ship nearby.

  67. Ed says:
    @KenH
    I just breathed a sigh of relief since it seemed Donald was drifting left on immigration and the wall. Princess Ivanka has expressed a desire to import more Muslim refugees and that gave me pause since I feared Trump would do just that to put a smile on her pretty face.

    But we also have to remember that Trump can change within days just like when he said we had no plans to marginalize Assad then three days later launched tomahawk missiles at a Syrian air force base.

    Replies: @Ed

    This is inaccurate Trump has not drifted left on immigration or the wall. The Wall is being thwarted by the GOP congress. That Trump doesn’t want to shut down gov’t over it is to his credit. Immigration arrests are up 40%, illegal entries have plummeted . Highly publicized immigrants subject to deportation are actually deported. Immigrants here on Temporary Status such as Haitians & Liberians have seen their statuses expired or warned that they will be.

    Immigration restrictionists aren’t getting everything we want but Trump is still far better than the alternatives of both parties.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob, IHTG
    • Replies: @KenH
    @Ed


    This is inaccurate Trump has not drifted left on immigration or the wall
     
    1) Trump has not only kept the unconstitutional DACA in place but bragged that he "has a heart".
    2) True, the GOP Congress is sabotaging efforts at building a wall but Trump was supposed to be a bar room brawler and not a pussycat and a pushover. He's not even playing chicken with Congress over this. A "shutdown" is a misnomer anyway as something like 80-85% of the government still functions. Trump simply caved like a good RINO.
    3) DHS secretary Kelly says an increase in H2B visas is "very likely". Trump is apparently too busy making the middle East great again to comment.
    4) DHS secretary Kelly just extended temporary status for Haitians another six months. No word from Trump. Is this America first? May as well have kept Jeh Johnson on.
    5) On the campaign trail and on his famous "Meet the Press" interview with F. Chucky Todd, Trump said all illegal aliens "have to go". President Trump now says he's only concerned with the criminal element and that non-criminal aliens can "rest easy".
    6) Multiple news outlets are reporting Trump's state dept. will be doubling visas for refugees through FY 2017 . What happened to "extreme vetting" and a drastic lowering of refugees?

    This is crunch time for America. Given the sweeping demographic changes we don't have several more election cycles to correct this and a handful of quarter measures aren't enough to give us our country back.

  68. The only good news from the new administration in 125 days:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-religion-ramadan-usa-tillerson-exclsu-idUSKBN18M2IE

    That the USG hosts a religious festivity of a murdering faith has been galling to me. That too when similar courtesy is not extended to other peaceful religions.

  69. @Forbes
    Since the Italian government sends their Navy (Coast Guard) to off- shore North Africa to pick up the migrants, and rather than repatriate them ashore (and confiscate the boats used in trafficking human cargo), they bring them to Italy--it is a self-inflicted problem.

    The true solution is to turn back the migrant hoards at the source. But instead, the Italian government has ruined their country by aiding and accepting the migrant flows. Now Italy wishes to share their mistake by recruiting other countries to share the burden of the failed policy.

    Replies: @Dave Pinsen, @Anonymous Nephew, @ben tillman

    The true solution is to turn back the migrant hoards at the source. But instead, the Italian government has ruined their country by aiding and accepting the migrant flows. Now Italy wishes to share their mistake by recruiting other countries to share the burden of the failed policy.

    To the contrary, the policy has been a smashing success.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @ben tillman

    Emphasis on 'smashing.'

  70. @Lord Jeff Sessions
    OT: Zuck goes full (((Zuck))) at Harvard today:

    Today I want to talk about purpose. ...

    Purpose is that sense that we are part of something bigger than ourselves, that we are needed, that we have something better ahead to work for. Purpose is what creates true happiness.

    You're graduating at a time when this is especially important. When our parents graduated, purpose reliably came from your job, your church, your community. But today, technology and automation are eliminating many jobs. Membership in communities is declining. Many people feel disconnected and depressed, and are trying to fill a void. ...

    Today I want to talk about three ways to create a world where everyone has a sense of purpose: by taking on big meaningful projects together, by redefining equality so everyone has the freedom to pursue purpose, and by building community across the world.

    First, let's take on big meaningful projects.

    Our generation will have to deal with tens of millions of jobs replaced by automation like self-driving cars and trucks.

    More than 300,000 people worked to put a man on the moon – including that janitor. Millions of volunteers immunized children around the world against polio. Millions of more people built the Hoover dam and other great projects.

    These projects didn't just provide purpose for the people doing those jobs, they gave our whole country a sense of pride that we could do great things.

    The second is redefining equality to give everyone the freedom they need to pursue purpose.

    Many of our parents had stable jobs throughout their careers. Now we're all entrepreneurial, whether we're starting projects or finding or role. And that's great. ...

    But today, we have a level of wealth inequality that hurts everyone. When you don't have the freedom to take your idea and turn it into a historic enterprise, we all lose.

    Every generation expands its definition of equality. Previous generations fought for the vote and civil rights. They had the New Deal and Great Society. Now it's our time to define a new social contract for our generation.

    We should have a society that measures progress not just by economic metrics like GDP, but by how many of us have a role we find meaningful. We should explore ideas like universal basic income to give everyone a cushion to try new things. We’re going to change jobs many times, so we need affordable childcare to get to work and healthcare that aren't tied to one company. We're all going to make mistakes, so we need a society that focuses less on locking us up or stigmatizing us. And as technology keeps changing, we need to focus more on continuous education throughout our lives. ...

    The third way we can create a sense of purpose for everyone is by building community. And when our generation says "everyone", we mean everyone in the world. ...

    Quick show of hands: how many of you are from another country? Now, how many of you are friends with one of these folks? Now we're talking. We have grown up connected.

    In a survey asking millennials around the world what defines our identity, the most popular answer wasn't nationality, religion or ethnicity, it was "citizen of the world". That's a big deal.

    We get that our greatest opportunities are now global -- we can be the generation that ends poverty, that ends disease. We get that our greatest challenges need global responses too -- no country can fight climate change alone or prevent pandemics. Progress now requires coming together not just as cities or nations, but also as a global community.

    But we live in an unstable time. There are people left behind by globalization across the world. It's hard to care about people in other places if we don’t feel good about our lives here at home. There’s pressure to turn inwards.

    This is the struggle of our time. The forces of freedom, openness and global community against the forces of authoritarianism, isolationism and nationalism. Forces for the flow of knowledge, trade and immigration against those who would slow them down. This is not a battle of nations, it's a battle of ideas. There are people in every country for global connection and good people against it.

    This isn't going to be decided at the UN either. It's going to happen at the local level, when enough of us feel a sense of purpose and stability in our own lives that we can open up and start caring about everyone. The best way to do that is to start building local communities right now.

    We all get meaning from our communities. Whether our communities are houses or sports teams, churches or music groups, they give us that sense we are part of something bigger, that we are not alone; they give us the strength to expand our horizons.

    That's why it's so striking that for decades, membership in all kinds of groups has declined as much as one-quarter. That's a lot of people who now need to find purpose somewhere else.

    Remember when I told you about that class I taught at the Boys and Girls Club? One day after class I was talking to them about college, and one of my top students raised his hand and said he wasn't sure he could go because he's undocumented. He didn't know if they'd let him in.

    Last year I took him out to breakfast for his birthday. I wanted to get him a present, so I asked him and he started talking about students he saw struggling and said "You know, I'd really just like a book on social justice."

    It says something about our current situation that I can't even say his name because I don't want to put him at risk. But if a high school senior who doesn't know what the future holds can do his part to move the world forward, then we owe it to the world to do our part too.

    Before you walk out those gates one last time, as we sit in front of Memorial Church, I am reminded of a prayer, Mi Shebeirach, that I say whenever I face a challenge, that I sing to my daughter thinking about her future when I tuck her into bed. It goes:

    "May the source of strength, who blessed the ones before us, help us *find the courage* to make our lives a blessing."

    I hope you find the courage to make your life a blessing.

    https://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-zuckerberg/harvard-commencement-2017/10154853758606634/

     

    The first 1/4th of the speech is charming anecdotes about his time at Harvard, the bottom 3/4ths is basically straight David Brooks.

    Replies: @Harry Baldwin, @27 year old, @Paul Yarbles

    The forces of freedom, openness and global community against the forces of authoritarianism, isolationism and nationalism. Forces for the flow of knowledge, trade and immigration against those who would slow them down. This is not a battle of nations, it’s a battle of ideas. There are people in every country for global connection and good people against it.

    Notice the clusters set against one another freedom/openness/global community vs. authoritarianism/isolationism/nationalism. One would think Zuck is engaging in some sort of rhetorical chicanery here. Also how can “good people” be against all those good things and for all those evil things just mentioned? We know Zuck thinks they are deplorable.

    This isn’t going to be decided at the UN either. It’s going to happen at the local level, when enough of us feel a sense of purpose and stability in our own lives that we can open up and start caring about everyone. The best way to do that is to start building local communities right now.

    Zuck is promoting a society where local communities are torn asunder by promiscuous immigration, family destroying views on gender and isolating technologies. Yet he believes that these atomized and rootless people will care about their local communities. What a stupid Zuck!

  71. @Alfa158
    @Achmed E. Newman

    TD is pretty good at satire, but the same gag after a couple of years gets tiresome. I noticed that he took a break after the election to celebrate , but apparently eventually downed a few aspirins, cleaned up the confetti and empty champagne bottles, and returned to the same routine. I think he still finds it amusing, but some of the rest of us mostly skip over his comments now since it is yeah, yeah, I get it, the same old shtick. I think the writer needs to reinvent himself into a new persona.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Well, Alta, that’s all fine, what you said, but I’m writing about the people that take him seriously and spend precious time of their day writing back to him, as if he needs to be corrected. I’m sure TD likes it when this happens, as I would too, were I in his position of Sailer’s own Satirist.

    Skipping TD’s comments make sense if, in your opinion, his routine has gone downhill. There are only a few people I skip, and one is Corvinus, and any post in reply to him, as it just goes on and on …. Some people, ya just cain’t reach …

    • Replies: @Alfa158
    @Achmed E. Newman

    I even have a couple of suggestions for new personas TD could reinvent himself into in order to become fresh and entertaining again. One would be to
    create a parody version of the typical mainstream National Review, Paul Ryan cuckold neoconservative. He could use the moniker Giant Cuck and give us exaggerated versions of the neocon take on events.
    Or he could impersonate the most hard core alt-righters, using the moniker Seeing Kyle.
    If Ron allowed commenters to have more than one moniker, he could even use all three and create his own three way flame war threads. Now that could be pretty droll!

  72. German_reader says:
    @snorlax
    @reiner Tor

    True, but that's sorta begging the question — it was "the very last moment" and the end of trench warfare because the US entry was the decisive factor that broke the stalemate on the Western Front.

    And the other fronts (Eastern, Italian, Balkan, Caucasian, Middle Eastern) weren't "trench warfare" (at least no more so than the US Civil, Boer or Russo-Japanese Wars were "trench warfare") but nevertheless were proportionately as bloody as the Western.

    Replies: @German_reader, @reiner Tor

    and the end of trench warfare because the US entry was the decisive factor that broke the stalemate on the Western Front.

    Well yes, but the Germans had already exhausted themselves with their offensive in spring 1918 (when they almost broke through to Paris). Also the western allies (the British especially iirc) had tanks by 1918 and had perfected tactics for the coordination of artillery barrages and infantry assaults, which allowed for breaking the stalemate and returning to a war of movement.
    Though US manpower certainly played an important role (just to what degree is still controversial as far as I know).

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @German_reader

    If America hadn't entered I'd say by far the most likely scenario is, like all the other initially-promising offensives, the 1918 British summer offensive would've petered out as the Germans brought in millions of battle-hardened reinforcements from the east and began to mass-produce their own tanks. The frontlines might've become somewhat less static but the overall situation would remain the same: stalemate until someone's government collapsed or army mutinied.

    Replies: @German_reader

    , @dfordoom
    @German_reader


    Well yes, but the Germans had already exhausted themselves with their offensive in spring 1918 (when they almost broke through to Paris)
     
    That was their last throw of the dice. Everything after that was just mopping-up operations.
  73. I find the migrant armada now almost too painful to contemplate.

    One thing that has surprised me is that there hasn’t been more critical notice paid of how the malign existence of the EU, as an institution, jams any move to end the invasion.

    The EU’s actual key officials are unelected and thus do not suffer for being unwilling or unable to act decisively and the actual elected national politicians typically act as if their hands are tied by their membership of the wider EU. People know this, I guess, but it is not discussed.

    (There is no migrant crisis except in the minds of liberals and the brain-dead journalists and dissembling globalizers. Genuine refugees, such as there are, can be cared for as close to their home as possible. Migrant chancers can go lobby their governments for better population control.)

  74. @Jack Hanson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Lmbo this is the kind of hedging and handwaving nonsense you blackpillers always run to when you can't run out and take the most mendacious and defeatist angle you possibly can on a subject.

    A cursory examination of your posting history (among others) puts the truth to this shameful backpedaling about how Trump has betrayed us.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    Trump has betrayed us quite a bit. It’s hard for you to put two non-conflicting but not similar, call them orthogonal thoughts, together, isn’t it, Jack.

    * The guy has let us down.

    * He is still much, much better than the Hildabeast.

    * The country is still going down the tubes, just a bit slower.

    * We need to get things turned around before it’s too late for anyone to fix it.

    The HansonBot says: “This does not compute. Muh black pills. These statements don’t mean the same thing. These statements don’t contradict one another. This is backpedaling. My registers have no more space. Don’t open the pod bay doors. I … can’t … what is ….. happening …. Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do, I’m so crazy, just for the love of you …”

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yet again, Achmed is throwing a temper tantrum cause 30 years of Cathdral nonsense can't be turned around in four months. Your "I want it and I want it NOW" autism is why the AR was a bunch of niche blogs quoting philosophers. Because a posting bon mots on a blog is easier than the actual governing, to nothing of governing with a deep state against you.

    You can't square this circle so you respond with inanities and non sequiturs. Good job.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman

  75. @Harry Baldwin
    @Lord Jeff Sessions

    Zuck: But today, technology and automation are eliminating many jobs. Membership in communities is declining. Many people feel disconnected and depressed, and are trying to fill a void. …

    And the solution is ... wait for it ... more low-IQ immigrants! Oh, and I'll need to add another layer of razor wire to the wall around my compound.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Buck Turgidson

    More low-I.Q. immigrants on the other side of Zuck’s wall and off his property, and lawn.
    Since Zuck is in such a generous mood to give away money, and since he has more than his share (“has enough” to quote obozo), why doesn’t he open his wallet and start writing some $10K checks? Zuck is an insufferable arrogant hypocrite liberal do-gooder pain in the arse.

  76. @englishmike
    @anonymous

    As a commenter who has also drawn attention to this "fascinating tale", in two threads at this site, may I say that it is highly recommended reading, even if you don't buy every detail of the story.

    In fairness to Pournelle, he presents it as a piece sent to, not "fabricated by", him; and he suggests that his readers might want to take some of it with a pinch of salt.

    FWIW, it sounds pretty convincing to me.

    On the other hand I'm intrigued by Scott Adams's defence of Comey as an honourable man who has "taken two bullets for his country".

    But then, Mark Antony thought that the conspirators who assassinated Julius Caesar in the Capitol were " all honourable men". According to Shakespeare. (Wonder if he fabricated it or what.)

    Replies: @englishmike, @Jonathan Mason

    Mark Antony thought that the conspirators who assassinated Julius Caesar in the Capitol were ” all honorable men”. According to Shakespeare. (Wonder if he fabricated it or what.)

    I always thought those lines were intended to be heavily laden with irony. Even when I was 14.

    • Replies: @The Alarmist
    @Jonathan Mason

    Yes, Marc Anthony's funeral oration was dripping with sarcasm toward the honour of Brutus et al ... don't know why that was lost on englishmike.

  77. @Achmed E. Newman

    ... Italy’s Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni met Wednesday with President Trump in Rome and made a last-ditch effort to persuade the American president to soften his opposition to resettling more refugees in the United States and urged the United States to provide financial assistance for migrant rescue operations in the Mediterranean, according to USA Today.
     
    Translated from the original Italian: "Heya, Mr. Trumpa... coma fucka up your country lika mi country. Take-a the refugees .... I make you an offer you no canna refuse ..."


    It remains unclear how Trump responded. …
     
    "Fredo, I mean, Paulo, I love you like a brother, but you donna ever go against the family." Bang, bang, bada-bing, bada-boom ..."

    I'm glad we've got this Steve Miller back with us. Keepin on rockin' me baby ....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUvYhh9R-GE

    Replies: @donut

    My oldman who was a “big shot” dot the “o” at Shell oil and always flew biudnes class or first class at the Co. expense right ? But once he was retired , true to his upbringing and his Great Depression history always looked for a bargain . So anyway for whatever reason he was flying out of Newark one day and booked a flight on Peoples Express , you remember them right ? The Greyhound of the air ways but w/o the luxury . Anyway he wasn’t seated as he used to be what with his White privilege and all , and so the little bitch found himself amongst the common people . And who can blame him ? He panicked , LOL , and made a scene “let me off this plane ” . Having been one of the common herd myself that he had such contempt for , I could sympathize with him . I don’t blame him or criticize him for that . For most of my life I felt “less than” because I felt I could never measure up to his high standards , but tragically in the end when it came to a buck , with all the bucks he had , and he had a lot of bucks , he revealed his true grasping self , and where did that leave me ? Forget the money , God knows if I had it I spent it . No , it left me , I can’t believe it but it left me “woke” to the sad and tragic fact that all men are dogs that only seek out wealth , power and pussy . And the saddest fact of all as far as my oldman is concerned is that he never once got even a taste of that good wet thing .

  78. @Jack Hanson
    Eeyores, get in here and tell us what bad news this is and how Trump sold us out!

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    The U.S. stance reflects the influence of Trump confidantes like Miller in an area that has traditionally been managed by national security experts in the White House and the State Department. … Miller has filled a policy void left by a weak multilateral affairs division in the White House, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who has shown little interest in refugees, according to a U.S. official.

    So far, it’s difficult for me to see that Trump has any principled opposition to or support for any policy. It’s house built on sand and feet of clay territory. I’m glad Miller’s got influence, but it sounds like we’re just a few staff changes away from a completely different policy.

    Has Trump cucked us? I don’t know. If your wife sleeps with your co-workers at the office Christmas party because she’s blind drunk and doesn’t know what she’s doing, did you get cucked or not? Your call.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Chrisnonymous

    FFS, the term "cuck" has been so misused by dopes like yourself all the rhetorical sting has been lost because you can't think of another term for "something I don't like".

    What is it with you eeyores and your inability to even try to make a point without using a nonsensical analogy? You don't know what you're saying, so you're reduced to trying to muddy the waters?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

  79. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Hanson

    Trump has betrayed us quite a bit. It's hard for you to put two non-conflicting but not similar, call them orthogonal thoughts, together, isn't it, Jack.

    * The guy has let us down.

    * He is still much, much better than the Hildabeast.

    * The country is still going down the tubes, just a bit slower.

    * We need to get things turned around before it's too late for anyone to fix it.

    The HansonBot says: "This does not compute. Muh black pills. These statements don't mean the same thing. These statements don't contradict one another. This is backpedaling. My registers have no more space. Don't open the pod bay doors. I ... can't ... what is ..... happening .... Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do, I'm so crazy, just for the love of you ..."

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    Yet again, Achmed is throwing a temper tantrum cause 30 years of Cathdral nonsense can’t be turned around in four months. Your “I want it and I want it NOW” autism is why the AR was a bunch of niche blogs quoting philosophers. Because a posting bon mots on a blog is easier than the actual governing, to nothing of governing with a deep state against you.

    You can’t square this circle so you respond with inanities and non sequiturs. Good job.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Hanson

    Nope, just sick of your inability to separate out different concepts in your mind, Hanson. I don't know about this Cathedral that you're referring to. Of course Trump has about everyone in the Feral Gov't against him. I agree with you about that and have stated that before. BTW, I don't think "I want it NOW" is a symptom of autism, Jack. If you notice me making not making any replies to your idiocy when Judge Wopner is on TV, or going through the "Whose on First?" routine then you make have a point with that name calling. Otherwise, pick a new one.

    If the Deep State has made threats to shut Trump down, I could believe that. (I don't think they could blackmail this guy or bribe him, for obvious reasons - that's part of why I wanted him to become president). He's acting much of the time like he could have been threatened, or why try to fit in with the establishment?

    1nd, there are powers that the chief executive has that should have been used already or should not have, and judges and bureaucrats have no say in. The term is "Chief Executive", meaning executor of the nation's laws. This makes him top administrator of all these 3-4 letter cabinet-level and other agencies. Trump absolutely could have sent the "Dreamer" illegal aliens home. He did not. Employees of CIS, Motherland Security and ALL OF THEM answer to the Chief Executive. Sure, as a manager, one would get rid of the high-level non-compliant bureaucrats first to encourage more obedience to the program of getting the illegals out as best as possible.

    2nd, Trump is, per US Constitution, Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces when it's wartime (oops, it's not officially wartime, but nobody cares about that anymore). There was no reason, other than threats to his family or just a weak-willed personality, that Trump had to continue the war-mongering in the Middle East, meaning breaking of a big campaign promise that was probably more important to the middle-ground Americans than the alt-right, I think.

    3rd, part of what makes the president important is that he has the "Bully Pulpit", meaning he has the ear of a whole lot of people. He has not even been talking the same talk as during the campaign much of the time, much less walking the walk. That's not to say I don't appreciate it when he does, but I'm starting to think he's just talking out of his ass a lot.


    Because a posting bon mots on a blog is easier than the actual governing...
     
    You are right about that. I wish this guy WOULD start governing, as the demographic and financial situations better be reversed quick. This can't be done by Trump alone, but not only has he squandered opportunities to take action that is solely his purview, he is losing much support by not at least stating the truths he used to state.

    There are plenty of others who could be leaders of a great movement to fix this country, but none of them are in the Feral Government right now and their followers have not yet understood that they must lose the fear of being called names and losing their jobs (a much more worrisome thing) or worse.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    , @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Hanson


    Nope, just sick of your inability to separate out different concepts in your mind, Hanson.
     
    Just to back up what I wrote in my 1st reply, what I mean by this is (not the 1st time I've had to state this):

    You are conflating criticism with withdrawing support. I still have hopes that Trump will come through on some things or at least just say things that need to be said.* I am not happy so far, but I'd be happy later if I see better things happening This IS NOT THE SAME as someone who is acting, saying, or writing against the man! DO! YOU! GET! THIS?!

    Were I in a position, or I should say when I am, to help support our causes I will/would do so, and of course that includes supporting Trump on this is he's leading. I would not work in any way against him, UNLESS there is someone who will do the job better - there is nobody like that in any positions in the Feral Gov't at this point, so there you go.

    If the guy's a screw-up, we need to criticize the parts that are the problem (not like I think a few comments will help much).

    BTW, the stuff in my previous reply has been gleaned from following VDare for more than a decade - by following, I mean I've read probably 90% of all the writing that has been on there. Were you to have done that, you might understand the points of frustration. There are many good anti-immigration web sites, but VDare is the most "comprehensive", if I may borrow a phrase from our friend Marc. Were you to read Derbyshire, either on VDare, or right here on unz, you would have read about 1 month back a much more "comprehensive" critique of Trump than I could write. I'm sure Derbyshire holds out hope anyway, and get it straight, he's not against Trump either.

    ***********************************************************
    * Good example from this morning from ZeroHedge: Merkel Furious With Trump After "Unprecedented" G-7 Failure To Reach Consensus On Climate Change. As they say at McDonalds, I'm lovin' it! This is the kind of thing I do like about the man - just keep in mind, neither Judge nor lyin' press can stop Trump from speaking and acting in this way (completely a function of the Chief Executive at this point - real treaties have to be approved by the Senate later).


    “The whole discussion about climate has been difficult, or rather very unsatisfactory" German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters Saturday. "Here we have the situation that six members, or even seven if you want to add the EU, stand against one."
     
    See, this makes me smile. Don't try to sell your Global Climate Disruption(TM) pyramid multi-level marketing scheme on us, bitch - we saved you from the Soviets,, keep this up and we'll leave you to the Moslems. (Well, we're gonna have to anyway - we're dead broke. Good luck!)
    ***********************************************************

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  80. And the saddest fact of all as far as my oldman is concerned is that he never once got even a taste of that good wet thing .

    I don’t get this, Donut – how could he be your old man, then? (unless you mean “taste” very literally, in which case TMI for this particular thread!)

    I rode with those guys too, People Express. It sounded kind of communist to me first, when I heard it as “People’s Express”. Anytime you hear people talking about “the people” and “the people’s whatever” just make sure you’ve got ammo dry and ready. It was the best deal I could get across the country, though you could get a ticket for the same price today. That means that air fares are nominally the same as in the 1980’s, but in real dollars probably 1/3 to 1/4 of what the fares were than. This is why customer service is so skimpy in that business. There is no free lunch.

    Are you out of music, BTW?

    • Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Don't forget "we 'the people'".

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

  81. Juicy paragraph by Douglas Murray in this weekend’s Australian:

    We have become masochists. And unfortunately for us we have begun to confront the problem that must afflict all masochists at some point: we have met — in a section of our Muslim communities — some serious sadists. We think we’re worthless, and they agree.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/inquirer/terror-in-manchester-open-door-asylum-policies-can-lead-to-terror/news-story/cb8645eab166cc3fc77e2e24f250e298

  82. @German_reader
    @snorlax


    and the end of trench warfare because the US entry was the decisive factor that broke the stalemate on the Western Front.
     
    Well yes, but the Germans had already exhausted themselves with their offensive in spring 1918 (when they almost broke through to Paris). Also the western allies (the British especially iirc) had tanks by 1918 and had perfected tactics for the coordination of artillery barrages and infantry assaults, which allowed for breaking the stalemate and returning to a war of movement.
    Though US manpower certainly played an important role (just to what degree is still controversial as far as I know).

    Replies: @snorlax, @dfordoom

    If America hadn’t entered I’d say by far the most likely scenario is, like all the other initially-promising offensives, the 1918 British summer offensive would’ve petered out as the Germans brought in millions of battle-hardened reinforcements from the east and began to mass-produce their own tanks. The frontlines might’ve become somewhat less static but the overall situation would remain the same: stalemate until someone’s government collapsed or army mutinied.

    • Replies: @German_reader
    @snorlax


    Germans brought in millions of battle-hardened reinforcements from the east and began to mass-produce their own tanks.
     
    The Germans in WW1 were behind the allies in tank design though, their tanks (which were few in number) were cumbersome monstrosities of limited utility on the battlefield.
    But I don't really disagree with your larger point, US troops arriving and fighting in France in 1918 certainly was among the decisisive factors of allied victory, maybe indeed even the most important one.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @snorlax

  83. German_reader says:
    @snorlax
    @German_reader

    If America hadn't entered I'd say by far the most likely scenario is, like all the other initially-promising offensives, the 1918 British summer offensive would've petered out as the Germans brought in millions of battle-hardened reinforcements from the east and began to mass-produce their own tanks. The frontlines might've become somewhat less static but the overall situation would remain the same: stalemate until someone's government collapsed or army mutinied.

    Replies: @German_reader

    Germans brought in millions of battle-hardened reinforcements from the east and began to mass-produce their own tanks.

    The Germans in WW1 were behind the allies in tank design though, their tanks (which were few in number) were cumbersome monstrosities of limited utility on the battlefield.
    But I don’t really disagree with your larger point, US troops arriving and fighting in France in 1918 certainly was among the decisisive factors of allied victory, maybe indeed even the most important one.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @German_reader

    The successful U.S. arrival in giant numbers in the second half of 1918 is why the Germans gave up in later 1918 before enemy troops had set foot in Germany. The German General Staff could see the writing on the wall for 1919.

    Replies: @snorlax, @The Alarmist

    , @snorlax
    @German_reader

    The British tanks weren't much good either; their utility was far more psychological (encouraging one's own side to advance and the enemy to retreat) than bringing much firepower to bear.

    In any event they were a far smaller factor than the American entry was (or, in the absence of the American entry, the arrival of German reinforcements from the east would've been)

    As you say, we're pretty much agreed.

  84. @German_reader
    @snorlax


    Germans brought in millions of battle-hardened reinforcements from the east and began to mass-produce their own tanks.
     
    The Germans in WW1 were behind the allies in tank design though, their tanks (which were few in number) were cumbersome monstrosities of limited utility on the battlefield.
    But I don't really disagree with your larger point, US troops arriving and fighting in France in 1918 certainly was among the decisisive factors of allied victory, maybe indeed even the most important one.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @snorlax

    The successful U.S. arrival in giant numbers in the second half of 1918 is why the Germans gave up in later 1918 before enemy troops had set foot in Germany. The German General Staff could see the writing on the wall for 1919.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @Steve Sailer

    Half-true; the Germans called for the armistice after the Turks and Austrians surrendered, the navy mutinied, the Socialists seized power in Berlin and every major city, and the country was on the brink of civil war. The Allies hadn't set foot on German soil, but that was a week or two away at most.

    If they'd asked for the armistice a few weeks earlier they would have had an enormously stronger negotiating position.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    , @The Alarmist
    @Steve Sailer

    The arrival of US troops was not as decisive a factor as you might think. Germany was starving and socially crumbling, and the General Staff realised by August 1918, when german forces essentially broke down defending advance positions, that the writing was on the wall militarily, and brought the troops closer to home along the Hindenburg line. There were more and more anti-war protests in Germany and a growing number of mutinies among troops who knew the situation was hopeless., not to mention the collapse of the political ties among German states that were still relatively new in those days. The loss of the Balkans in late-1918 added to deprivation of food and fuel being felt by the Germans back home. In other words, Germany was already a house of cards to be blown down, and the Americans arrived just in time to watch it fold and to take the credit for turning the war.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

  85. @German_reader
    @snorlax


    Germans brought in millions of battle-hardened reinforcements from the east and began to mass-produce their own tanks.
     
    The Germans in WW1 were behind the allies in tank design though, their tanks (which were few in number) were cumbersome monstrosities of limited utility on the battlefield.
    But I don't really disagree with your larger point, US troops arriving and fighting in France in 1918 certainly was among the decisisive factors of allied victory, maybe indeed even the most important one.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @snorlax

    The British tanks weren’t much good either; their utility was far more psychological (encouraging one’s own side to advance and the enemy to retreat) than bringing much firepower to bear.

    In any event they were a far smaller factor than the American entry was (or, in the absence of the American entry, the arrival of German reinforcements from the east would’ve been)

    As you say, we’re pretty much agreed.

  86. @Steve Sailer
    @German_reader

    The successful U.S. arrival in giant numbers in the second half of 1918 is why the Germans gave up in later 1918 before enemy troops had set foot in Germany. The German General Staff could see the writing on the wall for 1919.

    Replies: @snorlax, @The Alarmist

    Half-true; the Germans called for the armistice after the Turks and Austrians surrendered, the navy mutinied, the Socialists seized power in Berlin and every major city, and the country was on the brink of civil war. The Allies hadn’t set foot on German soil, but that was a week or two away at most.

    If they’d asked for the armistice a few weeks earlier they would have had an enormously stronger negotiating position.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @snorlax

    No, Ludendorff told the Kaiser that the war was militarily lost already in early August 1918, before any of this happened.

    But it wasn't easy to stop the war immediately. The military high command realized that the war was lost, but the information quickly leaked to the troops and allies, and nobody wanted to die for an already lost war.

    Replies: @snorlax

  87. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Alfa158

    Well, Alta, that's all fine, what you said, but I'm writing about the people that take him seriously and spend precious time of their day writing back to him, as if he needs to be corrected. I'm sure TD likes it when this happens, as I would too, were I in his position of Sailer's own Satirist.

    Skipping TD's comments make sense if, in your opinion, his routine has gone downhill. There are only a few people I skip, and one is Corvinus, and any post in reply to him, as it just goes on and on .... Some people, ya just cain't reach ...

    Replies: @Alfa158

    I even have a couple of suggestions for new personas TD could reinvent himself into in order to become fresh and entertaining again. One would be to
    create a parody version of the typical mainstream National Review, Paul Ryan cuckold neoconservative. He could use the moniker Giant Cuck and give us exaggerated versions of the neocon take on events.
    Or he could impersonate the most hard core alt-righters, using the moniker Seeing Kyle.
    If Ron allowed commenters to have more than one moniker, he could even use all three and create his own three way flame war threads. Now that could be pretty droll!

    • Disagree: Jenner Ickham Errican
    • LOL: German_reader
  88. @snorlax
    @Steve Sailer

    Half-true; the Germans called for the armistice after the Turks and Austrians surrendered, the navy mutinied, the Socialists seized power in Berlin and every major city, and the country was on the brink of civil war. The Allies hadn't set foot on German soil, but that was a week or two away at most.

    If they'd asked for the armistice a few weeks earlier they would have had an enormously stronger negotiating position.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    No, Ludendorff told the Kaiser that the war was militarily lost already in early August 1918, before any of this happened.

    But it wasn’t easy to stop the war immediately. The military high command realized that the war was lost, but the information quickly leaked to the troops and allies, and nobody wanted to die for an already lost war.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @reiner Tor

    That's true, but after that meeting Ludendorff repeatedly waffled on whether to end the war, whereas if he'd been more decisive and quick to make a final decision, or started the process earlier while Germany was in a stronger position, he could have avoided at least some of those developments.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

  89. @snorlax
    @reiner Tor

    True, but that's sorta begging the question — it was "the very last moment" and the end of trench warfare because the US entry was the decisive factor that broke the stalemate on the Western Front.

    And the other fronts (Eastern, Italian, Balkan, Caucasian, Middle Eastern) weren't "trench warfare" (at least no more so than the US Civil, Boer or Russo-Japanese Wars were "trench warfare") but nevertheless were proportionately as bloody as the Western.

    Replies: @German_reader, @reiner Tor

    There was already no trench warfare by late 1917. The American troops arrived in the summer of 1918.

    • Replies: @snorlax
    @reiner Tor

    It depends on your definition; Verdun/Somme-style trench warfare was indeed mainly a feature of the middle period of the war. To restate what I said in other terms, the arrival of the Americans prevented the Germans from being able to reestablish a stable frontline with defense-in-depth.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Anon

  90. @Dave Pinsen
    @Forbes

    I forget where I read it recently, but apparently the migrants Italy picks up are no longer heading north to Northern Europe -- they are less welcome there, so they're staying in Italy. So Italy getting caught holding the hot potato may be part of the dynamic here.

    But certainly, they should be towing the refugee boats back to Africa, offloading the refugees there, arresting the pilots, and then towing out and scuttling the boats.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jim jones, @Forbes

    My town, just outside London, is full of Italians. They are being driven out of their own country by Africans.

  91. @Jack Hanson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yet again, Achmed is throwing a temper tantrum cause 30 years of Cathdral nonsense can't be turned around in four months. Your "I want it and I want it NOW" autism is why the AR was a bunch of niche blogs quoting philosophers. Because a posting bon mots on a blog is easier than the actual governing, to nothing of governing with a deep state against you.

    You can't square this circle so you respond with inanities and non sequiturs. Good job.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman

    Nope, just sick of your inability to separate out different concepts in your mind, Hanson. I don’t know about this Cathedral that you’re referring to. Of course Trump has about everyone in the Feral Gov’t against him. I agree with you about that and have stated that before. BTW, I don’t think “I want it NOW” is a symptom of autism, Jack. If you notice me making not making any replies to your idiocy when Judge Wopner is on TV, or going through the “Whose on First?” routine then you make have a point with that name calling. Otherwise, pick a new one.

    If the Deep State has made threats to shut Trump down, I could believe that. (I don’t think they could blackmail this guy or bribe him, for obvious reasons – that’s part of why I wanted him to become president). He’s acting much of the time like he could have been threatened, or why try to fit in with the establishment?

    1nd, there are powers that the chief executive has that should have been used already or should not have, and judges and bureaucrats have no say in. The term is “Chief Executive”, meaning executor of the nation’s laws. This makes him top administrator of all these 3-4 letter cabinet-level and other agencies. Trump absolutely could have sent the “Dreamer” illegal aliens home. He did not. Employees of CIS, Motherland Security and ALL OF THEM answer to the Chief Executive. Sure, as a manager, one would get rid of the high-level non-compliant bureaucrats first to encourage more obedience to the program of getting the illegals out as best as possible.

    2nd, Trump is, per US Constitution, Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces when it’s wartime (oops, it’s not officially wartime, but nobody cares about that anymore). There was no reason, other than threats to his family or just a weak-willed personality, that Trump had to continue the war-mongering in the Middle East, meaning breaking of a big campaign promise that was probably more important to the middle-ground Americans than the alt-right, I think.

    3rd, part of what makes the president important is that he has the “Bully Pulpit”, meaning he has the ear of a whole lot of people. He has not even been talking the same talk as during the campaign much of the time, much less walking the walk. That’s not to say I don’t appreciate it when he does, but I’m starting to think he’s just talking out of his ass a lot.

    Because a posting bon mots on a blog is easier than the actual governing…

    You are right about that. I wish this guy WOULD start governing, as the demographic and financial situations better be reversed quick. This can’t be done by Trump alone, but not only has he squandered opportunities to take action that is solely his purview, he is losing much support by not at least stating the truths he used to state.

    There are plenty of others who could be leaders of a great movement to fix this country, but none of them are in the Feral Government right now and their followers have not yet understood that they must lose the fear of being called names and losing their jobs (a much more worrisome thing) or worse.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    For all your words words words words autism, you are still unable to parse that because Trump hasn't done something doesn't mean he won't do it.

    Keep on being a blackpiller eeyore that's always wrong.

  92. Jack Hanson says:
    @Chrisnonymous
    @Jack Hanson


    The U.S. stance reflects the influence of Trump confidantes like Miller in an area that has traditionally been managed by national security experts in the White House and the State Department. … Miller has filled a policy void left by a weak multilateral affairs division in the White House, and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, who has shown little interest in refugees, according to a U.S. official.
     
    So far, it's difficult for me to see that Trump has any principled opposition to or support for any policy. It's house built on sand and feet of clay territory. I'm glad Miller's got influence, but it sounds like we're just a few staff changes away from a completely different policy.

    Has Trump cucked us? I don't know. If your wife sleeps with your co-workers at the office Christmas party because she's blind drunk and doesn't know what she's doing, did you get cucked or not? Your call.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    FFS, the term “cuck” has been so misused by dopes like yourself all the rhetorical sting has been lost because you can’t think of another term for “something I don’t like”.

    What is it with you eeyores and your inability to even try to make a point without using a nonsensical analogy? You don’t know what you’re saying, so you’re reduced to trying to muddy the waters?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Jack Hanson

    I'm not using "cuck" to mean "something I don't like". You're the straw man king.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

  93. @Buck Turgidson
    "controversial."

    Is Stephen Miller also.....
    "outspoken"
    "maverick"
    "firebrand"
    "fiery"
    "right wing" (hillary or podesta or mad max waters or any of those kooks never are called "left wing")

    What am I missing.

    Are these "journalists" taught in j school these silly code words to describe non-liberals? It is the same small set of words they use to describe anyone not on board with the communist/globalist/SJW agenda. They sure aren't showing much flair or imagination.

    But they are j school grads and we are learning more about these people and their "intellect."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Old fogey

    I thought the newest term per the memo circulated among the journo-lists was “Strongman”.

    “Trump strongman Steve Miller today ranted about … blah blah ….” is the way they are supposed to be writing it. Someone didn’t get the memo.

    As to your “maverick” term, that was supposed to be just reserved for Juan McAmnesty alone. They use it because it has connotations that remind us of “Top Gun”‘s Maverick character, played by Tom Cruise. It makes us think that possibly McAmnesty had been an ace fighter jet pilot back in his past, when in fact he was a screw-up jet pilot back in his past.

    Yeah, they seem to use the rest of those terms in your list a lot, when the journalism party is against a particular individual.

    Nice to hear from you, Buck.

  94. @Jack Hanson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Yet again, Achmed is throwing a temper tantrum cause 30 years of Cathdral nonsense can't be turned around in four months. Your "I want it and I want it NOW" autism is why the AR was a bunch of niche blogs quoting philosophers. Because a posting bon mots on a blog is easier than the actual governing, to nothing of governing with a deep state against you.

    You can't square this circle so you respond with inanities and non sequiturs. Good job.

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Achmed E. Newman

    Nope, just sick of your inability to separate out different concepts in your mind, Hanson.

    Just to back up what I wrote in my 1st reply, what I mean by this is (not the 1st time I’ve had to state this):

    You are conflating criticism with withdrawing support. I still have hopes that Trump will come through on some things or at least just say things that need to be said.* I am not happy so far, but I’d be happy later if I see better things happening This IS NOT THE SAME as someone who is acting, saying, or writing against the man! DO! YOU! GET! THIS?!

    Were I in a position, or I should say when I am, to help support our causes I will/would do so, and of course that includes supporting Trump on this is he’s leading. I would not work in any way against him, UNLESS there is someone who will do the job better – there is nobody like that in any positions in the Feral Gov’t at this point, so there you go.

    If the guy’s a screw-up, we need to criticize the parts that are the problem (not like I think a few comments will help much).

    BTW, the stuff in my previous reply has been gleaned from following VDare for more than a decade – by following, I mean I’ve read probably 90% of all the writing that has been on there. Were you to have done that, you might understand the points of frustration. There are many good anti-immigration web sites, but VDare is the most “comprehensive”, if I may borrow a phrase from our friend Marc. Were you to read Derbyshire, either on VDare, or right here on unz, you would have read about 1 month back a much more “comprehensive” critique of Trump than I could write. I’m sure Derbyshire holds out hope anyway, and get it straight, he’s not against Trump either.

    ***********************************************************
    * Good example from this morning from ZeroHedge: Merkel Furious With Trump After “Unprecedented” G-7 Failure To Reach Consensus On Climate Change. As they say at McDonalds, I’m lovin’ it! This is the kind of thing I do like about the man – just keep in mind, neither Judge nor lyin’ press can stop Trump from speaking and acting in this way (completely a function of the Chief Executive at this point – real treaties have to be approved by the Senate later).

    “The whole discussion about climate has been difficult, or rather very unsatisfactory” German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters Saturday. “Here we have the situation that six members, or even seven if you want to add the EU, stand against one.”

    See, this makes me smile. Don’t try to sell your Global Climate Disruption(TM) pyramid multi-level marketing scheme on us, bitch – we saved you from the Soviets,, keep this up and we’ll leave you to the Moslems. (Well, we’re gonna have to anyway – we’re dead broke. Good luck!)
    ***********************************************************

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Your posting career is nowhere near the clear headed analysis you like to pretend it is in your mind. It is just one giant whine. An autistic REEEEEEEEEE of epic proportions that isn't phased by things like consistently being wrong or facts, just you looking for whatever angle you can to claim how we are betrayed.

    The fact you have to write essays defending your (sad!) Posting Career so you can reinvent it as something else than the whining of a loser only underlines my larger point.

  95. The EU is quitely paying the Sudanese government to detain and stop Eritrean refugees crossing from Ethiopia (where they first flee to) to Sudan so they don’t continue to Libya and eventually Europe.

    It is working, and leftists are protesting this move.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/26/europe-crackdown-africa-immigration-vulnerable-refugees-sudan-eritrea

  96. @Jonathan Mason
    @englishmike


    Mark Antony thought that the conspirators who assassinated Julius Caesar in the Capitol were ” all honorable men”. According to Shakespeare. (Wonder if he fabricated it or what.)
     
    I always thought those lines were intended to be heavily laden with irony. Even when I was 14.

    Replies: @The Alarmist

    Yes, Marc Anthony’s funeral oration was dripping with sarcasm toward the honour of Brutus et al … don’t know why that was lost on englishmike.

  97. @Steve Sailer
    @German_reader

    The successful U.S. arrival in giant numbers in the second half of 1918 is why the Germans gave up in later 1918 before enemy troops had set foot in Germany. The German General Staff could see the writing on the wall for 1919.

    Replies: @snorlax, @The Alarmist

    The arrival of US troops was not as decisive a factor as you might think. Germany was starving and socially crumbling, and the General Staff realised by August 1918, when german forces essentially broke down defending advance positions, that the writing was on the wall militarily, and brought the troops closer to home along the Hindenburg line. There were more and more anti-war protests in Germany and a growing number of mutinies among troops who knew the situation was hopeless., not to mention the collapse of the political ties among German states that were still relatively new in those days. The loss of the Balkans in late-1918 added to deprivation of food and fuel being felt by the Germans back home. In other words, Germany was already a house of cards to be blown down, and the Americans arrived just in time to watch it fold and to take the credit for turning the war.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @The Alarmist

    The Americans proved they could fight okay in the summer of 1918 (e.g., Belleau Wood in June 1918) and the Germans had no way to stop millions of them from coming. The German spring 1918 push to conquer Paris was timed to try to win the war before the Americans arrived.

  98. @IHTG
    @Thomas

    Davis-Oliver immigration enforcement act approved in judiciary committee (it's an item on Bannon's whiteboard) https://www.numbersusa.com/news/davis-oliver-act-passes-house-judiciary-committee

    Confirmation hearing for a new USCIS director, immigration restrictionist Lee Francis Cissna (highly recommended by Mark Krikorian) https://psmag.com/news/trumps-uscis-pick-harsh-on-undocument-immigrants

    "Mandatory E-Verify ‘Is Coming’" http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2017/05/23/expert-mandatory-e-verify-coming/

    Replies: @Old fogey

    Many thanks for this good news. Let’s hope it all pans out.

  99. @Thomas
    This blog occasionally is like a truffle-hunting pig, finding good news in the weeds.

    It's probably too much to wish for, but maybe the FBI will pack Jared off where his father went, and Miller will be Trump's next fair-haired boy (though whether not being married to Ivanka will be bug or feature is a question).

    Replies: @IHTG, @JohnnyD, @Old fogey

    I am sure that Jared’s and Ivanka’s backs are as good looking as their fronts. We’ve had enough of the fronts, I believe, so I am looking forward to admiring their backs.

  100. @Buck Turgidson
    "controversial."

    Is Stephen Miller also.....
    "outspoken"
    "maverick"
    "firebrand"
    "fiery"
    "right wing" (hillary or podesta or mad max waters or any of those kooks never are called "left wing")

    What am I missing.

    Are these "journalists" taught in j school these silly code words to describe non-liberals? It is the same small set of words they use to describe anyone not on board with the communist/globalist/SJW agenda. They sure aren't showing much flair or imagination.

    But they are j school grads and we are learning more about these people and their "intellect."

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman, @Old fogey

    You forgot “controversial,” the kiss of death.

  101. @ben tillman
    @Forbes


    The true solution is to turn back the migrant hoards at the source. But instead, the Italian government has ruined their country by aiding and accepting the migrant flows. Now Italy wishes to share their mistake by recruiting other countries to share the burden of the failed policy.
     
    To the contrary, the policy has been a smashing success.

    Replies: @Forbes

    Emphasis on ‘smashing.’

  102. @Dave Pinsen
    @Forbes

    I forget where I read it recently, but apparently the migrants Italy picks up are no longer heading north to Northern Europe -- they are less welcome there, so they're staying in Italy. So Italy getting caught holding the hot potato may be part of the dynamic here.

    But certainly, they should be towing the refugee boats back to Africa, offloading the refugees there, arresting the pilots, and then towing out and scuttling the boats.

    Replies: @Jenner Ickham Errican, @jim jones, @Forbes

    My sources in Italy tell me the government is handing out generous food and housing allowances, so no need to head to Northern Europe. And the natives no longer venture out at night as the streets aren’t safe.

  103. @The Alarmist
    @Steve Sailer

    The arrival of US troops was not as decisive a factor as you might think. Germany was starving and socially crumbling, and the General Staff realised by August 1918, when german forces essentially broke down defending advance positions, that the writing was on the wall militarily, and brought the troops closer to home along the Hindenburg line. There were more and more anti-war protests in Germany and a growing number of mutinies among troops who knew the situation was hopeless., not to mention the collapse of the political ties among German states that were still relatively new in those days. The loss of the Balkans in late-1918 added to deprivation of food and fuel being felt by the Germans back home. In other words, Germany was already a house of cards to be blown down, and the Americans arrived just in time to watch it fold and to take the credit for turning the war.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    The Americans proved they could fight okay in the summer of 1918 (e.g., Belleau Wood in June 1918) and the Germans had no way to stop millions of them from coming. The German spring 1918 push to conquer Paris was timed to try to win the war before the Americans arrived.

  104. @reiner Tor
    @snorlax

    No, Ludendorff told the Kaiser that the war was militarily lost already in early August 1918, before any of this happened.

    But it wasn't easy to stop the war immediately. The military high command realized that the war was lost, but the information quickly leaked to the troops and allies, and nobody wanted to die for an already lost war.

    Replies: @snorlax

    That’s true, but after that meeting Ludendorff repeatedly waffled on whether to end the war, whereas if he’d been more decisive and quick to make a final decision, or started the process earlier while Germany was in a stronger position, he could have avoided at least some of those developments.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @snorlax

    Perhaps. But one could argue that the collapse would've come quicker then. The allies smelled blood the moment the Germans started talking about peace, while the German soldiers' morale crumbled - no one wanted to die in the last weeks of a war which was already lost.

  105. @reiner Tor
    @snorlax

    There was already no trench warfare by late 1917. The American troops arrived in the summer of 1918.

    Replies: @snorlax

    It depends on your definition; Verdun/Somme-style trench warfare was indeed mainly a feature of the middle period of the war. To restate what I said in other terms, the arrival of the Americans prevented the Germans from being able to reestablish a stable frontline with defense-in-depth.

    • Replies: @reiner Tor
    @snorlax

    The method of fighting changed. My point was that that was the main reason why the Americans avoided the blunders of others when they joined the war.

    , @Anon
    @snorlax

    My impression is that massive personnel losses in the early and mid war reduced the troop density in the trenches to such an extent that maneuver warfare again became workable in the late war. For the Krauts, this came in the form of Sturmtruppen and infiltration tactics, for the allies, armor assault. Against the high density trenches of the early war, tank assaults would have been much dogier, and storm trooper infiltration assaults totally unworkable.

  106. Unfortunately , and before Ya’ll start screaming Miller Time, bored identity has to announce Fake News Alert.

    Between echo-chambered Foreign Policy and Banonists’ Breitbart, bored identity will go with a latter on this topic:

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/05/27/report-trump-administration-to-nearly-double-rate-of-refugee-admissions-for-balance-of-fy-2017/

  107. Decent One Percenters do not discuss legless tweenagers whose only crime was that their idiotic parents brought them to overrated pop-starlet’s concert.

    In the same time, Decent One Percenters will spend months lamenting over destiny of Litlle Mustafa whose idiotic parents have decided to sail him in a dinghy – from a Turkish summer resort safety to the Fribbyland’s coast.

    Ivanka was already born as One Percenter:

    Now she works hrd on her Decency Upgrade:

  108. @Achmed E. Newman

    And the saddest fact of all as far as my oldman is concerned is that he never once got even a taste of that good wet thing .
     
    I don't get this, Donut - how could he be your old man, then? (unless you mean "taste" very literally, in which case TMI for this particular thread!)

    I rode with those guys too, People Express. It sounded kind of communist to me first, when I heard it as "People's Express". Anytime you hear people talking about "the people" and "the people's whatever" just make sure you've got ammo dry and ready. It was the best deal I could get across the country, though you could get a ticket for the same price today. That means that air fares are nominally the same as in the 1980's, but in real dollars probably 1/3 to 1/4 of what the fares were than. This is why customer service is so skimpy in that business. There is no free lunch.

    Are you out of music, BTW?

    Replies: @Hippopotamusdrome

    Don’t forget “we ‘the people’”.

    • Replies: @Achmed E. Newman
    @Hippopotamusdrome

    No, that was quite a different crowd.

    How 'bout "Foster the People"?:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDTZ7iX4vTQ

    Don't bother to play it unless you've got some kind of woofers. The bass makes this song.

  109. @DCThrowback
    there goes myyyyyyyy hero / watch him as he goooooooes

    Replies: @boogerbently

    I support Trump.
    But this statement from ANY US official is ludicrous.

    “We are not forcing our policy on others, but they shouldn’t try to force theirs on us.”

  110. @Hippopotamusdrome
    @Achmed E. Newman

    Don't forget "we 'the people'".

    Replies: @Achmed E. Newman

    No, that was quite a different crowd.

    How ’bout “Foster the People”?:

    Don’t bother to play it unless you’ve got some kind of woofers. The bass makes this song.

  111. @reiner Tor
    @Diversity Heretic


    certain Italian units fought fairly well in North Africa in WWII. I also think that there was an Italian Alpine unit that gave a good account of themselves after Italy switched sides
     
    Their navy and air force had a reputation of fighting fairly well, too. Some of their navy divers sank some British vessels somewhere (perhaps in Alexandria? I'm lazy to look it up), I'd guess their elite or special forces (like the alpine troops and divers) were fairly good. (Some crazy daring acts of bravado fit well with the Italian character.)

    What I read is that basically Italy was the least prepared of all greater powers, because Mussolini didn't really want war at all (only the spoils), and whenever the Italian troops had no supply and/or untenable positions, they tended to fight poorly.

    They probably weren't worse than the British or Americans. (Just like the French, who also weren't worse than the British in 1940. In fact, it was two French divisions who cowardly fought rearguard actions to protect the heroic retreat of the British at Dunkirk.)

    As Steve has pointed out, they were tough in WW1 (though all countries were tough at the time, and they were propped up by French and British supplies), though perhaps they didn't fight well in the sense that they took a lot of unnecessary casualties (again, much like all countries at the time).

    Replies: @The Alarmist, @snorlax, @dfordoom

    Their navy and air force had a reputation of fighting fairly well, too.

    The Italian navy’s problem was that they had no radar.

    What I read is that basically Italy was the least prepared of all greater powers, because Mussolini didn’t really want war at all

    Mussolini would have preferred an alliance with Britain and France. The Brits stuffed that up my making a fuss about Abyssinia (only Englishmen are allowed to beat up spear-armed natives and steal their countries). Had Mussolini achieved his alliance with Britain and France it’s likely there would have been no war.

  112. @MBlanc46
    @dfordoom

    Labour hate ordinary Brits less than the Tories do? Do you mean that British Leftists hate whites less than British so-called conservatives do?

    Replies: @dfordoom

    Labour hate ordinary Brits less than the Tories do? Do you mean that British Leftists hate whites less than British so-called conservatives do?

    It has little to do with whiteness – the Tories hate anyone who’s poor and non-elite.

  113. @German_reader
    @snorlax


    and the end of trench warfare because the US entry was the decisive factor that broke the stalemate on the Western Front.
     
    Well yes, but the Germans had already exhausted themselves with their offensive in spring 1918 (when they almost broke through to Paris). Also the western allies (the British especially iirc) had tanks by 1918 and had perfected tactics for the coordination of artillery barrages and infantry assaults, which allowed for breaking the stalemate and returning to a war of movement.
    Though US manpower certainly played an important role (just to what degree is still controversial as far as I know).

    Replies: @snorlax, @dfordoom

    Well yes, but the Germans had already exhausted themselves with their offensive in spring 1918 (when they almost broke through to Paris)

    That was their last throw of the dice. Everything after that was just mopping-up operations.

  114. “The Italian navy’s problem was that they had no radar.”

    I believe another problem was it had no fuel (or near enough to no fuel). This kept it in port as a “fleet in being” much of the time.

    Fleet in being, World War II.

  115. @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Hanson

    Nope, just sick of your inability to separate out different concepts in your mind, Hanson. I don't know about this Cathedral that you're referring to. Of course Trump has about everyone in the Feral Gov't against him. I agree with you about that and have stated that before. BTW, I don't think "I want it NOW" is a symptom of autism, Jack. If you notice me making not making any replies to your idiocy when Judge Wopner is on TV, or going through the "Whose on First?" routine then you make have a point with that name calling. Otherwise, pick a new one.

    If the Deep State has made threats to shut Trump down, I could believe that. (I don't think they could blackmail this guy or bribe him, for obvious reasons - that's part of why I wanted him to become president). He's acting much of the time like he could have been threatened, or why try to fit in with the establishment?

    1nd, there are powers that the chief executive has that should have been used already or should not have, and judges and bureaucrats have no say in. The term is "Chief Executive", meaning executor of the nation's laws. This makes him top administrator of all these 3-4 letter cabinet-level and other agencies. Trump absolutely could have sent the "Dreamer" illegal aliens home. He did not. Employees of CIS, Motherland Security and ALL OF THEM answer to the Chief Executive. Sure, as a manager, one would get rid of the high-level non-compliant bureaucrats first to encourage more obedience to the program of getting the illegals out as best as possible.

    2nd, Trump is, per US Constitution, Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces when it's wartime (oops, it's not officially wartime, but nobody cares about that anymore). There was no reason, other than threats to his family or just a weak-willed personality, that Trump had to continue the war-mongering in the Middle East, meaning breaking of a big campaign promise that was probably more important to the middle-ground Americans than the alt-right, I think.

    3rd, part of what makes the president important is that he has the "Bully Pulpit", meaning he has the ear of a whole lot of people. He has not even been talking the same talk as during the campaign much of the time, much less walking the walk. That's not to say I don't appreciate it when he does, but I'm starting to think he's just talking out of his ass a lot.


    Because a posting bon mots on a blog is easier than the actual governing...
     
    You are right about that. I wish this guy WOULD start governing, as the demographic and financial situations better be reversed quick. This can't be done by Trump alone, but not only has he squandered opportunities to take action that is solely his purview, he is losing much support by not at least stating the truths he used to state.

    There are plenty of others who could be leaders of a great movement to fix this country, but none of them are in the Feral Government right now and their followers have not yet understood that they must lose the fear of being called names and losing their jobs (a much more worrisome thing) or worse.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    For all your words words words words autism, you are still unable to parse that because Trump hasn’t done something doesn’t mean he won’t do it.

    Keep on being a blackpiller eeyore that’s always wrong.

  116. Jack Hanson says:
    @Achmed E. Newman
    @Jack Hanson


    Nope, just sick of your inability to separate out different concepts in your mind, Hanson.
     
    Just to back up what I wrote in my 1st reply, what I mean by this is (not the 1st time I've had to state this):

    You are conflating criticism with withdrawing support. I still have hopes that Trump will come through on some things or at least just say things that need to be said.* I am not happy so far, but I'd be happy later if I see better things happening This IS NOT THE SAME as someone who is acting, saying, or writing against the man! DO! YOU! GET! THIS?!

    Were I in a position, or I should say when I am, to help support our causes I will/would do so, and of course that includes supporting Trump on this is he's leading. I would not work in any way against him, UNLESS there is someone who will do the job better - there is nobody like that in any positions in the Feral Gov't at this point, so there you go.

    If the guy's a screw-up, we need to criticize the parts that are the problem (not like I think a few comments will help much).

    BTW, the stuff in my previous reply has been gleaned from following VDare for more than a decade - by following, I mean I've read probably 90% of all the writing that has been on there. Were you to have done that, you might understand the points of frustration. There are many good anti-immigration web sites, but VDare is the most "comprehensive", if I may borrow a phrase from our friend Marc. Were you to read Derbyshire, either on VDare, or right here on unz, you would have read about 1 month back a much more "comprehensive" critique of Trump than I could write. I'm sure Derbyshire holds out hope anyway, and get it straight, he's not against Trump either.

    ***********************************************************
    * Good example from this morning from ZeroHedge: Merkel Furious With Trump After "Unprecedented" G-7 Failure To Reach Consensus On Climate Change. As they say at McDonalds, I'm lovin' it! This is the kind of thing I do like about the man - just keep in mind, neither Judge nor lyin' press can stop Trump from speaking and acting in this way (completely a function of the Chief Executive at this point - real treaties have to be approved by the Senate later).


    “The whole discussion about climate has been difficult, or rather very unsatisfactory" German Chancellor Angela Merkel told reporters Saturday. "Here we have the situation that six members, or even seven if you want to add the EU, stand against one."
     
    See, this makes me smile. Don't try to sell your Global Climate Disruption(TM) pyramid multi-level marketing scheme on us, bitch - we saved you from the Soviets,, keep this up and we'll leave you to the Moslems. (Well, we're gonna have to anyway - we're dead broke. Good luck!)
    ***********************************************************

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    Your posting career is nowhere near the clear headed analysis you like to pretend it is in your mind. It is just one giant whine. An autistic REEEEEEEEEE of epic proportions that isn’t phased by things like consistently being wrong or facts, just you looking for whatever angle you can to claim how we are betrayed.

    The fact you have to write essays defending your (sad!) Posting Career so you can reinvent it as something else than the whining of a loser only underlines my larger point.

  117. anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    “The German spring 1918 push to conquer Paris was timed to try to win the war before the Americans arrived.”

    Also combined US and Allied war production (in particular tanks) for 1919 was expected to be extensive and the Germans likely figured they would not be able to keep up with the expected American contribution. (The Allies were hoping for production of 5,000 tanks in 1919).

    Plan 1919:

    “…plan was to be used as the blueprint for the spring offensive the next year and was titled Plan 1919. The German surrender that November precluded the implementation of the plan, but it was studied extensively by the Germans and used as the model for their Blitzkrieg attacks during the next war…”

    The International Tank (Mark VIII) was hoped to be produced in sufficient numbers to win the war in 1919:

    “Production at a site in France was expected to take advantage of US industrial capacity to produce the automotive elements, with the UK producing the armoured hulls and armament. The planned production levels would have equipped the Allied armies with a very large tank force that would have broken through the German defensive positions in the planned offensive for 1919. In practice manufacture was slow and only a few vehicles were produced before the end of the war in November 1918.”

    British medium tank designs were getting more modern by 1919:

    Medium Mark D Modified.

    1918 models weren’t so bad either:

    Mark A Whippet, in Japanese service after the war.

    Mark A Whippet.

    Battle of Amiens, 1918:

    “The Battle of Amiens… 8 August 1918… one of the greatest advances of the war…

    …battle is also notable for its effects on both sides’ morale and the large number of surrendering German forces. This led Erich Ludendorff to describe the first day of the battle as “the black day of the German Army”. Amiens was one of the first major battles involving armoured warfare and marked the end of trench warfare on the Western Front; fighting becoming mobile once again until the armistice was signed on 11 November 1918…

    …plans depended on the large-scale use of tanks (now finally available in large numbers) to achieve surprise, by avoiding a preliminary bombardment…

    …There were also to be 580 tanks. The Canadian and Australian Corps were each allocated… 108 Mark V fighting tanks, 36 Mark V “Star”, and 24 unarmed tanks intended to carry supplies and ammunition forward… The Cavalry Corps were allocated… 48 Medium Mark A Whippet tanks.

    …The speed of their advance was such that a party of German officers and some divisional staff were captured while eating breakfast…

    …German General Erich Ludendorff… recounted… instances of retreating troops shouting “You’re prolonging the war!” at officers who tried to rally them…

    …the initial force of more than 500 tanks that played a large role in the Allied success was reduced to six tanks fit for battle within four days…

    …a major turning point in the tempo of the war…”

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @anonymous

    Churchill wrote about how the 1919 conquest of Germany would have been a high tech war on a massive scale.

  118. @anonymous
    "The German spring 1918 push to conquer Paris was timed to try to win the war before the Americans arrived."

    Also combined US and Allied war production (in particular tanks) for 1919 was expected to be extensive and the Germans likely figured they would not be able to keep up with the expected American contribution. (The Allies were hoping for production of 5,000 tanks in 1919).

    Plan 1919:


    "...plan was to be used as the blueprint for the spring offensive the next year and was titled Plan 1919. The German surrender that November precluded the implementation of the plan, but it was studied extensively by the Germans and used as the model for their Blitzkrieg attacks during the next war..."

     

    The International Tank (Mark VIII) was hoped to be produced in sufficient numbers to win the war in 1919:


    "Production at a site in France was expected to take advantage of US industrial capacity to produce the automotive elements, with the UK producing the armoured hulls and armament. The planned production levels would have equipped the Allied armies with a very large tank force that would have broken through the German defensive positions in the planned offensive for 1919. In practice manufacture was slow and only a few vehicles were produced before the end of the war in November 1918."

     

    British medium tank designs were getting more modern by 1919:

    Medium Mark D Modified.

    1918 models weren't so bad either:

    Mark A Whippet, in Japanese service after the war.

    Mark A Whippet.

    Battle of Amiens, 1918:


    "The Battle of Amiens... 8 August 1918... one of the greatest advances of the war...

    ...battle is also notable for its effects on both sides' morale and the large number of surrendering German forces. This led Erich Ludendorff to describe the first day of the battle as "the black day of the German Army". Amiens was one of the first major battles involving armoured warfare and marked the end of trench warfare on the Western Front; fighting becoming mobile once again until the armistice was signed on 11 November 1918...

    ...plans depended on the large-scale use of tanks (now finally available in large numbers) to achieve surprise, by avoiding a preliminary bombardment...

    ...There were also to be 580 tanks. The Canadian and Australian Corps were each allocated... 108 Mark V fighting tanks, 36 Mark V "Star", and 24 unarmed tanks intended to carry supplies and ammunition forward... The Cavalry Corps were allocated... 48 Medium Mark A Whippet tanks.

    ...The speed of their advance was such that a party of German officers and some divisional staff were captured while eating breakfast...

    ...German General Erich Ludendorff... recounted... instances of retreating troops shouting "You're prolonging the war!" at officers who tried to rally them...

    ...the initial force of more than 500 tanks that played a large role in the Allied success was reduced to six tanks fit for battle within four days...

    ...a major turning point in the tempo of the war..."

     

    Replies: @Steve Sailer

    Churchill wrote about how the 1919 conquest of Germany would have been a high tech war on a massive scale.

  119. @Jack Hanson
    @Chrisnonymous

    FFS, the term "cuck" has been so misused by dopes like yourself all the rhetorical sting has been lost because you can't think of another term for "something I don't like".

    What is it with you eeyores and your inability to even try to make a point without using a nonsensical analogy? You don't know what you're saying, so you're reduced to trying to muddy the waters?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous

    I’m not using “cuck” to mean “something I don’t like”. You’re the straw man king.

    • Replies: @Jack Hanson
    @Chrisnonymous

    Yes, you are.

    The guy who has been crying how doomed we are since August 2015 calling anyone else a strawmanner is unintentionally hilarious as well as underlining your own self delusion.

  120. @snorlax
    @reiner Tor

    That's true, but after that meeting Ludendorff repeatedly waffled on whether to end the war, whereas if he'd been more decisive and quick to make a final decision, or started the process earlier while Germany was in a stronger position, he could have avoided at least some of those developments.

    Replies: @reiner Tor

    Perhaps. But one could argue that the collapse would’ve come quicker then. The allies smelled blood the moment the Germans started talking about peace, while the German soldiers’ morale crumbled – no one wanted to die in the last weeks of a war which was already lost.

  121. @snorlax
    @reiner Tor

    It depends on your definition; Verdun/Somme-style trench warfare was indeed mainly a feature of the middle period of the war. To restate what I said in other terms, the arrival of the Americans prevented the Germans from being able to reestablish a stable frontline with defense-in-depth.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Anon

    The method of fighting changed. My point was that that was the main reason why the Americans avoided the blunders of others when they joined the war.

  122. @Chrisnonymous
    @Jack Hanson

    I'm not using "cuck" to mean "something I don't like". You're the straw man king.

    Replies: @Jack Hanson

    Yes, you are.

    The guy who has been crying how doomed we are since August 2015 calling anyone else a strawmanner is unintentionally hilarious as well as underlining your own self delusion.

  123. @Ed
    @KenH

    This is inaccurate Trump has not drifted left on immigration or the wall. The Wall is being thwarted by the GOP congress. That Trump doesn't want to shut down gov't over it is to his credit. Immigration arrests are up 40%, illegal entries have plummeted . Highly publicized immigrants subject to deportation are actually deported. Immigrants here on Temporary Status such as Haitians & Liberians have seen their statuses expired or warned that they will be.

    Immigration restrictionists aren't getting everything we want but Trump is still far better than the alternatives of both parties.

    Replies: @KenH

    This is inaccurate Trump has not drifted left on immigration or the wall

    1) Trump has not only kept the unconstitutional DACA in place but bragged that he “has a heart”.
    2) True, the GOP Congress is sabotaging efforts at building a wall but Trump was supposed to be a bar room brawler and not a pussycat and a pushover. He’s not even playing chicken with Congress over this. A “shutdown” is a misnomer anyway as something like 80-85% of the government still functions. Trump simply caved like a good RINO.
    3) DHS secretary Kelly says an increase in H2B visas is “very likely”. Trump is apparently too busy making the middle East great again to comment.
    4) DHS secretary Kelly just extended temporary status for Haitians another six months. No word from Trump. Is this America first? May as well have kept Jeh Johnson on.
    5) On the campaign trail and on his famous “Meet the Press” interview with F. Chucky Todd, Trump said all illegal aliens “have to go”. President Trump now says he’s only concerned with the criminal element and that non-criminal aliens can “rest easy”.
    6) Multiple news outlets are reporting Trump’s state dept. will be doubling visas for refugees through FY 2017 . What happened to “extreme vetting” and a drastic lowering of refugees?

    This is crunch time for America. Given the sweeping demographic changes we don’t have several more election cycles to correct this and a handful of quarter measures aren’t enough to give us our country back.

  124. @27 year old
    @Luke Lea

    President Trump should totally pull the scene from the movie Ransom and go on TV with bricks of cash on the Oval Office desk and say "this was YOUR money that the corrupt establishment wanted to spend on servies for illegals. I'm turning it into a bounty. Anyone who provides information leading to the deportation of an illegal immigrant will receive a tax free reward of X dollars. Anyone who provides information leading to the arrest of an employer who hires illegals will receive a tax free reward of 3X dollars. You can find details on Whitehouse.gov for how to submit information and claim your reward. Goodnight and God bless America."

    Replies: @Joe Schmoe

    The phone would be ringing off the hook at “la migra” with immigrants calling in to report any illegal they were ticked off at if there were a substantial reward for turning illegals in.

    • Replies: @Johann Ricke
    @Joe Schmoe


    The phone would be ringing off the hook at “la migra” with immigrants calling in to report any illegal they were ticked off at if there were a substantial reward for turning illegals in.
     
    I doubt it has to be substantial. I'm thinking $100 per illegal successfully apprehended.
  125. Anon • Disclaimer says:
    @snorlax
    @reiner Tor

    It depends on your definition; Verdun/Somme-style trench warfare was indeed mainly a feature of the middle period of the war. To restate what I said in other terms, the arrival of the Americans prevented the Germans from being able to reestablish a stable frontline with defense-in-depth.

    Replies: @reiner Tor, @Anon

    My impression is that massive personnel losses in the early and mid war reduced the troop density in the trenches to such an extent that maneuver warfare again became workable in the late war. For the Krauts, this came in the form of Sturmtruppen and infiltration tactics, for the allies, armor assault. Against the high density trenches of the early war, tank assaults would have been much dogier, and storm trooper infiltration assaults totally unworkable.

  126. @Joe Schmoe
    @27 year old

    The phone would be ringing off the hook at "la migra" with immigrants calling in to report any illegal they were ticked off at if there were a substantial reward for turning illegals in.

    Replies: @Johann Ricke

    The phone would be ringing off the hook at “la migra” with immigrants calling in to report any illegal they were ticked off at if there were a substantial reward for turning illegals in.

    I doubt it has to be substantial. I’m thinking $100 per illegal successfully apprehended.

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