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From Vox:

The NFL is 67% black. Diversity hasn’t helped white players and coaches understand racism.

Their reactions to Kaepernick’s protest teach a sobering lesson.

Updated by David Leonard on September 2, 2016, 9:40 a.m. ET

… Proximity to African Americans doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference — even in a space like the NFL, where white athletes are outnumbered by black ones.

 
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  1. Breitbart has a summary of the disgusting support that the ESPN announcers gave to this protest.

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/09/12/colin-kaepernick-takes-a-knee-during-national-anthem-before-taking-seat-for-49ers-opener/

    Steve Young, a pro-gay marriage Mormon, was absolutely ecstatic about the brilliant and deep thought that the protest represented.

    Will Trump pick up this issue?

    • Replies: @gruff
    @Hepp

    He'd be wise not to.

    , @Dennis Dale
    @Hepp

    Absolutely not! And he shouldn't wring any more out of "deplorables"; that's already into diminishing returns.

  2. Paul Kersey has said it best: it’s time to stop watching American professional sports. They are an opiate of the masses and have been ruined by diversity/lefty politics.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @whorefinder

    Who is Paul Kersey?

    Replies: @Kyle

    , @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @whorefinder

    None of my shooting and fighting (martial arts) friends follow sports other than maybe MMA. These are Alpha dudes to the max. More and more I associate sports watching with extreme feminine aspects. In other words white pu--ies aka cucks.

    , @L Woods
    @whorefinder

    Honestly, the public devotion to spectator sports and the meatheads that play them was always an idiocratic opiate, even before SJWism took it to full retard status.

    , @No_0ne
    @whorefinder

    Not to mention that it's time to stop funding the propaganda in general. If you still have cable/ satellite TV, you're only encouraging them.

  3. …even in a deplorable space like the NFL, where you sacrifice privacy for the opportunity to make a 7 or 8 figure income, global recognition plus benefits, and fantastic attention from millions regarding adolescent, even juvenile choices.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Neil Templeton


    …even in a deplorable space like the NFL, where you sacrifice privacy for the opportunity to make a 7 or 8 figure income, global recognition plus benefits, and fantastic attention from millions regarding adolescent, even juvenile choices.
     
    And pussy. End of the day, end of the road is pussy. And lots of it. For young men, that is the point of it all.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @ben tillman

  4. From the linked article: “Proximity to African Americans doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference…”

    I have no doubt Leonard and his ilk have an even more draconian Plan B.

    • Replies: @Louis Renault
    @Kylie


    deference
     
    Yes, Americans should kneel in submission.
    , @Dennis Dale
    @Kylie

    Does anyone doubt proximity to blacks prompts "respectful deference"? Does this guy ever get out?

  5. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    We need to let go of sportsball. Colossal waste of time and money. Let’s dedicate our time, our lives to things more important.

    You could be learning a language, getting exercise, reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, maintaining your home, picking up a new skill, taking a free online course, working a few extra hours at your trade or profession.

    Let’s shun this terrible waste with determination.

    • Agree: Triumph104, Clyde
    • Replies: @The Practical Conservative
    @Anonymous

    It would help if you suggested activities that promoted group bonding and sociability rather than activities that tend towards the isolated and workaholic.

    A lot of people feel like they're down to sports for that, since other suggestions invariably are isolating and solitary.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SPMoore8, @rod1963, @Percy Gryce, @AndrewR

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they're busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They're internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Crawfurdmuir, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Front toward enemy, @L Woods

    , @duncsbaby
    @Anonymous

    Will I be as virtuous if I only read the abridged version of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire?

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA

    , @Realist
    @Anonymous

    I agree with what you say, but this country is overwhelmed with idiots and people with no ambition. People with higher intelligence and high ambition are already doing as you say. You can not talk idiots into being smart and successful.

    , @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    Bowling used to be that sport: participatory, and not that strenuous.
    Putt putt golf and Skee-Ball were up there too.

    Now, there's Topgolf, which is a sort of massive pinball machine of golf: you stand on a balcony and whack balls into these circular scoring pits.

    Me, I like shooting and archery.

    And, of course, there's always music, playing in a band. That'll keep you busy.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius

  6. @whorefinder
    Paul Kersey has said it best: it's time to stop watching American professional sports. They are an opiate of the masses and have been ruined by diversity/lefty politics.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @L Woods, @No_0ne

    Who is Paul Kersey?

    • Replies: @Kyle
    @Anonymous

    Paul Kersey is the name of Charles Bronson's character in death wish, and it's the pen name of the author of sbpdl.

    http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/?m=1

  7. The league should crack down hard on protesting players. Protest on your own time or get fired. The league should also get the flag, the pledge and the military OUT of the game. It’s supposed to be about football and money.

    • Replies: @George
    @WorkingClass

    Kaepernick Jersey Sales Jump To No. 1 In The NFL

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/07/kaepernick-jersey-sales-jump-to-no-1-in-the-nfl/#ixzz4K6e1ViuC

    Replies: @Devops Dad, @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    , @AndrewR
    @WorkingClass

    I agree on the anthem and military stuff but they are trying to appeal to good old boys who are into flags and gratuitous military adventures and all that American stuff. The NFL has taken on a quasi-religious, quasi-nationalist aura in order to channel religious and nationalist feelings into an easily controlled domain. Our best and only hope is to convince the low-info white fans of the NFL that it is run and staffed by people with vastly different values.

    Replies: @David In TN

  8. https://ccgrs.wsu.edu/faculty-staff/david-j-leonard/

    Dr. David J. Leonard
    Professor
    Ph.D., University of California, Berkeley

    He is the author of Screens Fade to Black: Contemporary African American Cinema and coeditor of Criminalized and Commodified: New Racism and African Americans in Contemporary Sports (Rowman and Littlefield). He is author of After Artest: The NBA and the Assault on Blackness (SUNY Press) as well as several other works. Leonard is a regular contributor to NewBlackMan, layupline, Feminist Wire, and Urban Cusp. He is a past contributor to Ebony, Slam, and Racialicious as well as a past contributor to Loop21, The Nation, and The Starting Five. He blogs at No Tsuris. Follow him on Twitter @drdavidjleonard.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @anon930

    Leonard is not a "Sun people" Leonard in L. Jeffries taxonomy,he is actually an "Ice People" Leonard. A far left Jewish boy from Cali.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    , @Louis Renault
    @anon930

    Pullman, WA is less than 3% black.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman,_Washington#Demographics

    Give him credit, he knows how to make money trolling the internet.

  9. Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college—-couldn’t make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them “one of the jocks.” The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don’t respect them. How the players aren’t cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there’s the stories they have to write–all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you’ll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won’t get through, and the player will go after you and you’ll be banned from the lockerroom—cutting your career off.

    And don’t even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath….so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda—blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid’s game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here’s one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players’ biography, including Larry Bird’s. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports “journalist,” sitting behind a table—-with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul….for nothing.

    • Replies: @415 reasons
    @whorefinder

    Funny you mention that because I have a friend who works "producing content" for the website of one of the big four professional sports leagues, and he was indeed the equipment manager for the high school baseball team.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    , @Chrisnonymous
    @whorefinder


    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team,
     
    Somebody should do a re-make of the Redford movie "The Natural", but about a young black NFL quarterback. The twist? The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family who marries for the celebrity and money of being a black QB but falls for the coach's white, younger son, who is educated and well-behaved.

    It would combine a leftist narrative about race with under the radar cultural obsessions like jungle fever and cougars. Plus, it would flatter black women. Throw in some steamy bedroom scenes and suggestive locker room scenes. I predict a hit.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @TangoMan, @Cloudbuster

    , @Chase
    @whorefinder

    When you described the drunk cynic, my mind immediately jumped to Bob Ryan. So it's obvious to a lot of people that's exactly what he is.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous

    , @Clyde
    @whorefinder

    I pay zero attention to sports writing and TV/ESPN commentary these days, so many thanks for your most excellent deconstruction of it. So damn pathetic!
    I do remember Boston Globe sports writer Bob Ryan from years ago. His book Scribe: My Life in Sports, published Oct 7, 2014, got 150 Amazon reviews so hopefully he made some money.

    , @WJ
    @whorefinder

    Journalism majors were always the weakest intellectually, on campus. It is an easy major but unfortunately, a select few make it to the larger arena and they are able to actually shape public thought. I believe that is why, especially on topics associated with science and engineering such as energy production, the reporting is so irrational. Well written irrational, but still irrational.

    Then below those mental midgets we call traditional journalists, you have sports journalists. The dumbest of the dumn

    Replies: @guest

    , @Brutusale
    @whorefinder

    Ryan still isn't as pitiful as Dan Shaughnessy, or the curly-haired bitch, as the immortal Carl Everett once called him.

    I'll take a knowledgeable Drunk Cynic like Will McDonough any day.

    It's amazing to read Leonard's dreck. If there was ever a privileged class, it's the one that ends up in the NFL. They've had their butts kissed and the way smoothed since they were 10-year old Pop Warner players.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Brutusale
    @whorefinder

    Ryan has no excuse for being the cuck he became. He covered the entire career of Larry Bird, as pasty a Caucasian as has ever lived, who played the black man's game, excelled to the point of domination, earned blacks' respect on his own terms, backed down from nobody and had a visible friendship with the most popular black athlete in his sport.

    A somewhat defense is that he worked for American Pravda, the Boston Globe, where the leftist bent is all the way to broke.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @whorefinder

    Well said. I see Bob Ryan from time to time on Around the Horn and PTI. I like what he says but he does look old and pissed.

    Another reason sportswriters tend to go left is that everyone sees them as jock sniffers, so they try to prove themselves as "real" journalists by being more PC than the WaPo.

    Replies: @Matra, @Forbes

    , @Truth
    @whorefinder

    And I'm guessing that a guy who calls himself "whorefinder" will die with a retinue of attendants?

    , @BB753
    @whorefinder

    "Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics."

    So where does Buzz Bissinger fit in?

  10. Proximity to White Americans hasn’t guaranteed understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference – at least not in case of David Leonard.

    • Replies: @kaganovitch
    @Stogumber

    As I mentioned earlier he Is a white american.

    Replies: @dan hayes, @ben tillman

    , @ben tillman
    @Stogumber


    Proximity to White Americans hasn’t guaranteed understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference – at least not in case of David Leonard.
     
    Nicely done!
  11. Stopped watching the National Felon League when they let that POS Vick back in the league. Don’t miss it at all. Grown men getting giddy over a bunch of rape apes is cuck gay. Stop watching this crap.

  12. No, proximity to African Americans doesn’t guarantee that bunch of extremely unlikely outcomes; what it does guarantee is awareness of their stupidiy, mendancity, venaity, childishness and impulsiveness, plus that tendency toward the old ultra-v and the fact that few of them are committed to team, at any deep level. This is typical: the liberal ardor for blackness is based on distance from it, idealization of it, and blindness to it. White NFL players know enough to keep their mouths shut and their thoughts private, to keep the big bucks and all the p—y coming. Liberals, including the ignorant Barrack Obama who has never lived among actual Negroes and knows nothing about them, don’t. ANYBODY who has worked in a diversity-mandated office knows that most are sub-standard, that their work product must be redone quietly by white people, and that making a fuss about it is a good, fast way to the career graveyard.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Otto the P

    "Liberals, including the ignorant Barrack Obama who has never lived among actual Negroes"

    Jim Goad a member of the Alt-Right likes to brag that he lives among way more Blacks than Barack Hussein Obama ever has. Jim Goad lives in Stone Mountain, Georgia which is a whopping 75% Black. Hussein grew up in Honolulu which is only a measly 1% Black.

    Barack Hussein Obama the Mulatto limousine liberal elitist would not be caught dead moving to 75% Black Stone Mountain. Once he leaves The White House he has a home waiting for him in an affluent White DC suburb.

    Replies: @SMK, @IA

    , @Stealth
    @Otto the P

    Wow. That was very crisp.

  13. @WorkingClass
    The league should crack down hard on protesting players. Protest on your own time or get fired. The league should also get the flag, the pledge and the military OUT of the game. It's supposed to be about football and money.

    Replies: @George, @AndrewR

    • Replies: @Devops Dad
    @George

    49ers fans trying to dump tickets to Rams game at a fraction of face value

    http://www.sfgate.com/sports/49ersfandomold/articleComments/49ers-fans-already-trying-to-dump-tickets-at-9217355.php

    , @DCThrowback
    @George

    small, non-liquid markets can be manipulated easily for headlines imo

    , @Anonymous
    @George

    "Kaepernick Jersey Sales Jump To No. 1 In The NFL"

    Kinda like a 21st century Sgt. William "Old [black] Shoe" Schumann.

    , @Forbes
    @George

    How many jerseys were sold to get to #1? 20? 30?

    $150 to own a bench-sitting QB's jersey. That's some cuck.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

  14. instead of watching corporate america ‘sports’ for the next 2 years, how about an Art V conv. of the States to take away the d(ebt) ceiling from 280 whores in the us gov’t and give it to 3/4 of state legislatures??? do it 2018 midterms.

  15. @anon930
    https://ccgrs.wsu.edu/faculty-staff/david-j-leonard/

    Dr. David J. Leonard
    Professor
    Ph.D., University of California, Berkeley

    He is the author of Screens Fade to Black: Contemporary African American Cinema and coeditor of Criminalized and Commodified: New Racism and African Americans in Contemporary Sports (Rowman and Littlefield). He is author of After Artest: The NBA and the Assault on Blackness (SUNY Press) as well as several other works. Leonard is a regular contributor to NewBlackMan, layupline, Feminist Wire, and Urban Cusp. He is a past contributor to Ebony, Slam, and Racialicious as well as a past contributor to Loop21, The Nation, and The Starting Five. He blogs at No Tsuris. Follow him on Twitter @drdavidjleonard.
     

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Louis Renault

    Leonard is not a “Sun people” Leonard in L. Jeffries taxonomy,he is actually an “Ice People” Leonard. A far left Jewish boy from Cali.

    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @kaganovitch

    It's pretty sunny in the middle east.

  16. @Stogumber
    Proximity to White Americans hasn’t guaranteed understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference - at least not in case of David Leonard.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @ben tillman

    As I mentioned earlier he Is a white american.

    • Replies: @dan hayes
    @kaganovitch

    Yes, an utterly repulsive white American.

    , @ben tillman
    @kaganovitch


    As I mentioned earlier he Is a white american.
     
    No, he's pretending to be a white American. He identifies with another tribe.
  17. @Anonymous
    We need to let go of sportsball. Colossal waste of time and money. Let's dedicate our time, our lives to things more important.

    You could be learning a language, getting exercise, reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, maintaining your home, picking up a new skill, taking a free online course, working a few extra hours at your trade or profession.

    Let's shun this terrible waste with determination.

    Replies: @The Practical Conservative, @Anonymous, @duncsbaby, @Realist, @Former Darfur

    It would help if you suggested activities that promoted group bonding and sociability rather than activities that tend towards the isolated and workaholic.

    A lot of people feel like they’re down to sports for that, since other suggestions invariably are isolating and solitary.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @The Practical Conservative

    Good question.

    Spectator sports and sports fandom are diverting our group bonding desire and team into something stillborn. I think if we eliminate that diversion, those energies are bound to find a more productive outlet, push us into finding one.

    The activities I mentioned aren't necessarily only solitary (and definitely weren't meant to be exhaustive). Many lend themselves to group learning or participation. (Don't you think that teaming up with other men to learn something useful as applied to your lives or to otherwise better yourselves will give rise to a feeling of solidarity?) Or they develop skills that can be used socially.

    I will post more specifics of I think of any.

    , @SPMoore8
    @The Practical Conservative

    I spend a lot of my free time studying, this is because I always feel intellectually inadequate and aspire to understand things. And I'm an old guy.

    However, I've always allowed a certain amount of time for sports (and, of course, sports analysis!) and I should say at this point that following sports is a twofer, because it's a basic way of connecting with my immediate and extended family.

    You only have to read Gibbon once. It's not that good.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Brutusale

    , @rod1963
    @The Practical Conservative

    Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary.

    That said, prior to the elevation of pro-sports into what amounts to a secular religion for the Helots by the establishment. Men used to have other methods of socializing including clubs like the Lions, Moose, Elks, Eagle or church sponsored activities. Which BTW are much more emotionally fulfilling than those idiotic beer sodden reveries that make up socializing at sporting events).

    Of course men had hobbies as well for personal enjoyment. From the 30's onwards up until the late 90's men had magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics that were loaded with how-to articles for the home craftsman or hobbyist. Sadly they started dying out at the same time schools removed shop classes for their students(which ensured no future generations of students would find out working with their hands can be fun and useful) and the computer revolution finished them off by reducing them to worthless glossies.

    You know at one time almost every town had a Tandy's Leatherworking outlet(it later became Tandy/RadioShack). Imagine that, leather crafts were that popular at one time.

    Oh yeah, model building was big as well.

    It's really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.

    That was white Americana of yesteryear.

    Replies: @Clyde, @PiltdownMan, @E. Rekshun, @Sunbeam, @ben tillman

    , @Percy Gryce
    @The Practical Conservative

    Two things I've tried recently: chess and fencing.

    (1) Chess: the classic game of strategy and cerebration. I realized that I don't have the patience to really study it, but I have learned a few things and I think I could, if I concentrated, do better than look completely foolish against most opponents.

    (2) Fencing: the traditional Western martial art. It's good cardio--also called by some the physical equivalent of chess. It also connects us with a glorious Western tradition of swordplay and honorable combat (if only in an oblique and highly refined way).

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @AndrewR
    @The Practical Conservative

    Nothing he mentioned are necessarily solitary activities.

    But ok: how about instead of watching millionaire felon strangers, with whom you have nothing in common, throw balls around, how about playing sports with people you know? Most people who watch sportsball religiously aren't frail or disabled, and few of them watch sportsball in addition to playing it.

  18. @Anonymous
    @whorefinder

    Who is Paul Kersey?

    Replies: @Kyle

    Paul Kersey is the name of Charles Bronson’s character in death wish, and it’s the pen name of the author of sbpdl.

    http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/?m=1

  19. I thought the NFL was more like 75% black.

    I think the problem is that professional sports has become sorted out racially, with whites being overwhelmingly the financial support, while POC’s are, in most sports, the main athletic stock.

    So when Kaepernick and other Players of Color disrespect the Anthem, etc., especially over something like #BLM, they are saying: “We are black and opposed to the status quo” which reminds the audience that they are mostly white, and basically just want to be entertained with a contest that underlines their sense of civic pride.

    That’s bound to lead to some polarization. Especially when a number of the protesters are essentially morons and make comments on social media (like, “taking down the criminal justice system”) which are hyperbolic, histrionic, and patently ridiculous.

    Thus politicizing sporting events is racially polarizing. Disrespecting this country and the sense of community that sporting events are supposed to represent is a huge turnoff to a lot of people in this country.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @SPMoore8

    As I've been saying for years now, the sporting event--game, match, race, whatever--is of secondary importance to the entertainment media programming foisted on the public.

    The event is a place holder around which advertising sponsorships are sold to finance the product--players' and league officials' salaries, and team owner returns. Not to mention all the on-air talking heads making 6-and 7-figure incomes for working half a year for following a child's game.

    Think about it--a 60 minute football game that has less than 15 minutes of actual play takes nearly 3-1/2 hours to complete.

  20. @kaganovitch
    @Stogumber

    As I mentioned earlier he Is a white american.

    Replies: @dan hayes, @ben tillman

    Yes, an utterly repulsive white American.

  21. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    Funny you mention that because I have a friend who works “producing content” for the website of one of the big four professional sports leagues, and he was indeed the equipment manager for the high school baseball team.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @415 reasons

    I'm not pulling this out of thin air, ya know.

  22. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    We need to let go of sportsball. Colossal waste of time and money. Let's dedicate our time, our lives to things more important.

    You could be learning a language, getting exercise, reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, maintaining your home, picking up a new skill, taking a free online course, working a few extra hours at your trade or profession.

    Let's shun this terrible waste with determination.

    Replies: @The Practical Conservative, @Anonymous, @duncsbaby, @Realist, @Former Darfur

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they’re busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They’re internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    • Agree: Dave Pinsen, Barnard
    • LOL: IA
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    By talking amongst ourselves on Twitter, our eyes are being opened. We are learning.

    By posting on Twitter, we are also influencing the public discourse. Our voices are being heard, if not listened to. We are changing to course of history.

    Netflix is a different animal. I advocate people avoid it.

    Replies: @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    , @Crawfurdmuir
    @Anonymous


    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they’re busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They’re internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.
     
    They should take up a sport themselves. Shooting would be a good one, as it is a practical skill at any age. It was once America's national sport, as it still is Switzerland's. In the 1890s, coverage of the long-range matches at Creedmoor took up as many column inches in the newspapers as accounts of baseball games. Thomas Jefferson advised:

    "As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785
    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    The difference is that shitposting on Twitter doesn't give money and social standing to aggressive, aggrieved, entitled dopes.

    As a non-American it amazes me that the idea that colleges have no business funneling athletic talent to the professional realms and prolific ball-handlers don't actually belong with your daughters in institutions of learning is whoa, hang on there crazy out-of-the-box thinking even to deplorables.

    Replies: @27 year old

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable

    This isn't about one upmanship. It's about us together - our being stronger individually and as a team. Maybe you would have more easily grasped that if you cut off the sportsball and released your team spirit into another realm.

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they’re busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They’re internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts
     
    I agree that learning a language or reading a dry history book for no apparent reason doesn't seem fun. But why not a fun leisure activity that also promotes intellectual growth? Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc., which makes you want to learn fundamental principles of physics, engineering, etc. There's nothing better than a hobby you get so passionate about you love to learn new things, even technical things. E.g., Physics for Gearheads.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun, @E. Rekshun, @Marty

    , @Front toward enemy
    @Anonymous

    FYI, I read Gibbon last summer, tedious but extremely informative.

    , @L Woods
    @Anonymous

    That is still an order of magnitude above watching a rabble of double digit IQ thugs throw a ball around.

  23. Proximity to African Americans doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference — even in a space like the NFL

    Quit being backseat quarterbacks and show the NFL how it should be done by turning VOX into a majority black organization staffed up with non-traditionally educated blacks pulled up from the ghetto by your crack team of talent scouts.

  24. I completely support Leonards plan to make the NFL executive staff entirely black. I am sure that will work out wonderfully and showcase wonderful untapped managerial talent. In fact Kaepernick should be the new NFL CEO or whatever. That will show that the NFL is fully committed to its diversity goals.

    • Replies: @Father O'Hara
    @Anoni

    How come that no talent shmuck seemed to be such a good QB for one lousy year? The
    Niners are stuck with a giant contract with that frizzy haired nitwit,and it serves em right! They were so happy to have the next Magic Negro. Harbaugh,himself a QB, relished benching Alex Smith and elevating CK. That doofus gets paid a bundle to do nothing,and yet has no shame. Wait---that sounds familiar. Hellooo BHO you putz!

  25. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @The Practical Conservative
    @Anonymous

    It would help if you suggested activities that promoted group bonding and sociability rather than activities that tend towards the isolated and workaholic.

    A lot of people feel like they're down to sports for that, since other suggestions invariably are isolating and solitary.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SPMoore8, @rod1963, @Percy Gryce, @AndrewR

    Good question.

    Spectator sports and sports fandom are diverting our group bonding desire and team into something stillborn. I think if we eliminate that diversion, those energies are bound to find a more productive outlet, push us into finding one.

    The activities I mentioned aren’t necessarily only solitary (and definitely weren’t meant to be exhaustive). Many lend themselves to group learning or participation. (Don’t you think that teaming up with other men to learn something useful as applied to your lives or to otherwise better yourselves will give rise to a feeling of solidarity?) Or they develop skills that can be used socially.

    I will post more specifics of I think of any.

  26. @Otto the P
    No, proximity to African Americans doesn't guarantee that bunch of extremely unlikely outcomes; what it does guarantee is awareness of their stupidiy, mendancity, venaity, childishness and impulsiveness, plus that tendency toward the old ultra-v and the fact that few of them are committed to team, at any deep level. This is typical: the liberal ardor for blackness is based on distance from it, idealization of it, and blindness to it. White NFL players know enough to keep their mouths shut and their thoughts private, to keep the big bucks and all the p---y coming. Liberals, including the ignorant Barrack Obama who has never lived among actual Negroes and knows nothing about them, don't. ANYBODY who has worked in a diversity-mandated office knows that most are sub-standard, that their work product must be redone quietly by white people, and that making a fuss about it is a good, fast way to the career graveyard.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Stealth

    “Liberals, including the ignorant Barrack Obama who has never lived among actual Negroes”

    Jim Goad a member of the Alt-Right likes to brag that he lives among way more Blacks than Barack Hussein Obama ever has. Jim Goad lives in Stone Mountain, Georgia which is a whopping 75% Black. Hussein grew up in Honolulu which is only a measly 1% Black.

    Barack Hussein Obama the Mulatto limousine liberal elitist would not be caught dead moving to 75% Black Stone Mountain. Once he leaves The White House he has a home waiting for him in an affluent White DC suburb.

    • Replies: @SMK
    @Jefferson

    Why would any sane white person, much less an "alt-rightist," live in a city or town that is 75% black if he's free and able to live in a city or suburb that is 80-90% white? And "brag" about this choice? Why -to prove he's not a "racist"? Is he a masochist with a desire to be hated, harassed, assaulted, mugged, and worse? Perhaps his choice to live in such a place is explained by his grotesquely irrational, obsessive, virulent, and demented hatred of white females.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Stealth

    , @IA
    @Jefferson


    Once he leaves The White House he has a home waiting for him in an affluent White DC suburb.
     
    Obama's moving to Kalorama, an embassy enclave near Dupont Circle.
  27. @The Practical Conservative
    @Anonymous

    It would help if you suggested activities that promoted group bonding and sociability rather than activities that tend towards the isolated and workaholic.

    A lot of people feel like they're down to sports for that, since other suggestions invariably are isolating and solitary.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SPMoore8, @rod1963, @Percy Gryce, @AndrewR

    I spend a lot of my free time studying, this is because I always feel intellectually inadequate and aspire to understand things. And I’m an old guy.

    However, I’ve always allowed a certain amount of time for sports (and, of course, sports analysis!) and I should say at this point that following sports is a twofer, because it’s a basic way of connecting with my immediate and extended family.

    You only have to read Gibbon once. It’s not that good.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @SPMoore8

    because it’s a basic way of connecting with my immediate and extended family.

    You aren't really connecting with them. It is an illusion.

    You really connect when you spend time with them building the strength and welfare of one another and that of your real life team.

    Replies: @Spmoore8

    , @Desiderius
    @SPMoore8


    I always feel intellectually inadequate
     
    It's past time you outgrew that, SP, except maybe in the sense of simple humility. Your comments speak for themselves.

    It’s not that good.
     
    It is relatively long though. I get the sense that Gibbon, Macaulay, et. al. are looked down upon by the real intellectuals. My gut says their loss.

    Replies: @Spmoore8

    , @Brutusale
    @SPMoore8

    I spend time here to make up for the time I'm forced to spend with people for whom the sun rises and sets on the fortunes of the Patriots and the Red $ox. As I make my ducats in sales and marketing, so I have to maintain a certain knowledge of such to grease the wheels of commerce.

    It's not as bad here as it is in the South. My parents had neighbors in Florida who were a mixed marriage: he went to Auburn and she to Alabama. The day of the BIG GAME, they went to different places to watch it with their own kind.

  28. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they're busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They're internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Crawfurdmuir, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Front toward enemy, @L Woods

    By talking amongst ourselves on Twitter, our eyes are being opened. We are learning.

    By posting on Twitter, we are also influencing the public discourse. Our voices are being heard, if not listened to. We are changing to course of history.

    Netflix is a different animal. I advocate people avoid it.

    • Replies: @DCThrowback
    @Anonymous

    Except for "Stranger Things", that was amazing.

    Replies: @Danindc

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Ok, I think you have an inflated sense of your own importance, but at least you're being honest and admitting that while you're not watching sports, you're not exactly spending your time learning to play the violin or to weld or whatever.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    , @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Who said I was referring only to myself? (My post refers to "we")

    Who said I don't have activities other than Twitter engagement?

    You seem very defensive about this.

  29. @SPMoore8
    @The Practical Conservative

    I spend a lot of my free time studying, this is because I always feel intellectually inadequate and aspire to understand things. And I'm an old guy.

    However, I've always allowed a certain amount of time for sports (and, of course, sports analysis!) and I should say at this point that following sports is a twofer, because it's a basic way of connecting with my immediate and extended family.

    You only have to read Gibbon once. It's not that good.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Brutusale

    because it’s a basic way of connecting with my immediate and extended family.

    You aren’t really connecting with them. It is an illusion.

    You really connect when you spend time with them building the strength and welfare of one another and that of your real life team.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    @Anonymous

    I did all that. But if all they want to do is talk about sports, you either share it with them, or you don't.

    It's not just kids, either. It's siblings, cousins, friends, co-workers, etc. The content of interpersonal interactions is irrelevant. What you don't want is people gaping in silence when you get on your hobby horse.

    Replies: @Anonymous

  30. @415 reasons
    @whorefinder

    Funny you mention that because I have a friend who works "producing content" for the website of one of the big four professional sports leagues, and he was indeed the equipment manager for the high school baseball team.

    Replies: @whorefinder

    I’m not pulling this out of thin air, ya know.

  31. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team,

    Somebody should do a re-make of the Redford movie “The Natural”, but about a young black NFL quarterback. The twist? The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family who marries for the celebrity and money of being a black QB but falls for the coach’s white, younger son, who is educated and well-behaved.

    It would combine a leftist narrative about race with under the radar cultural obsessions like jungle fever and cougars. Plus, it would flatter black women. Throw in some steamy bedroom scenes and suggestive locker room scenes. I predict a hit.

    • Replies: @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    I knew a black lady doctor who used to be married to the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Lurker, @Brutusale, @Truth, @Triumph104, @MEH 0910

    , @TangoMan
    @Chrisnonymous

    The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family

    How does a screenwriter convey a talented tenth Black in the present year? Every Black is supremely talented or is a Magic Negro. With all of the AA and quota hiring rampant in society, there are well-to-do Blacks all over the place and this ruins the phenomenon of talented tenth rising on merit and it being self-evidently true that the well-to-do Black has risen to his station in life by his talents.

    Justice Thomas is bitter about Affirmative Action Stigma. This stigma erases the concept of talented tenth from the public consciousness because there is no way to find them in the high noise-low signal environment created by these artificial uplift programs.

    Would the audience even know what a talented tenth family is?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Anonymous

    , @Cloudbuster
    @Chrisnonymous

    Black woman with a white man? That's statistically pretty uncommon. Black men and white men prefer white and asian women. Is this women supposed to be some sort of Magic Negress?

    Replies: @Forbes

  32. NFL players want to behave as either independent contractors or union employees, depending on the circumstances, just like the cops they complain about are want to do. The rest of us have to make a choice between the two. I chose the former but have some respect for the latter. My dad was union man and he put shoes on my feet and food on the table.

    I skipped watching the NFL this weekend, but I might go back to watching it next week. For those of you who do continue to watch the sport, let’s pay attention to the NFL players who don’t where pink bling during upcoming breast cancer awareness month. That is a protest too!

  33. The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college

    The way they’ve been acting lately, I’m beginning to think they were hall monitors and student government vice-presidents.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Desiderius

    I must be old. In my day student gov't VPs were even more useless than waterboys and timekeepers.

  34. ESPN is the absolute worst in this department.

    • Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist
    @SnakeEyes


    ESPN is the absolute worst in this department.

     

    I think Deadspin is the worst, but lately ESPN has been catching up fast . . . .

    Replies: @Carbon blob

  35. Words change meaning. “Diversity” now means people who are not white or Asian, preferably female.

  36. David J. Leonard is Associate Professor and Chair in the Department of Critical Culture, Gender and Race Studies at Washington State University, Pullman.

    According to Wikipedia, Pullman, Washington is 2.3% African-American.

    ]Jimmy The Greek also discussed the need for Black coaches in football. Did not work out so well for him.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Clifford Brown

    Al Campanis Racist Remarks on Nightline (April 6, 1987): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O4XUbENGaiY

  37. @SPMoore8
    @The Practical Conservative

    I spend a lot of my free time studying, this is because I always feel intellectually inadequate and aspire to understand things. And I'm an old guy.

    However, I've always allowed a certain amount of time for sports (and, of course, sports analysis!) and I should say at this point that following sports is a twofer, because it's a basic way of connecting with my immediate and extended family.

    You only have to read Gibbon once. It's not that good.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Brutusale

    I always feel intellectually inadequate

    It’s past time you outgrew that, SP, except maybe in the sense of simple humility. Your comments speak for themselves.

    It’s not that good.

    It is relatively long though. I get the sense that Gibbon, Macaulay, et. al. are looked down upon by the real intellectuals. My gut says their loss.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    @Desiderius

    Thank you. I will say, Macaulay is always fun to read. Great style and a cunning sense of humor.

  38. @Chrisnonymous
    @whorefinder


    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team,
     
    Somebody should do a re-make of the Redford movie "The Natural", but about a young black NFL quarterback. The twist? The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family who marries for the celebrity and money of being a black QB but falls for the coach's white, younger son, who is educated and well-behaved.

    It would combine a leftist narrative about race with under the radar cultural obsessions like jungle fever and cougars. Plus, it would flatter black women. Throw in some steamy bedroom scenes and suggestive locker room scenes. I predict a hit.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @TangoMan, @Cloudbuster

    I knew a black lady doctor who used to be married to the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @Steve Sailer

    TMI! ;D

    , @Lurker
    @Steve Sailer

    The way things are going with WWT, a black lady doctor will be Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    , @Brutusale
    @Steve Sailer

    Did she fix his ear?

    , @Truth
    @Steve Sailer

    Holy had good taste

    , @Triumph104
    @Steve Sailer

    Both Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were married to physicians, which shows the level of desperation of even highly educated black women.

    Actor and martial artist Michael Jai White was also married to a physician. She asked him to marry her and she paid all the bills including his acting lessons. Years after he divorced her, he wrote an open letter to all of his exes confessing that until his current relationship, he had no idea why his exes wanted to be close to him.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/15/michael-jai-white-facebook-apology-ex-girlfriends_n_7073324.html

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Truth

    , @MEH 0910
    @Steve Sailer

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiprDDr3dIs

  39. I won’t rest until the NFL is 100% Black from the top to the bottom. I won’t!

    • Replies: @Lurker
    @Johnny789

    Only 100%? What are you, some sort of white supremacist?

  40. @Desiderius
    @SPMoore8


    I always feel intellectually inadequate
     
    It's past time you outgrew that, SP, except maybe in the sense of simple humility. Your comments speak for themselves.

    It’s not that good.
     
    It is relatively long though. I get the sense that Gibbon, Macaulay, et. al. are looked down upon by the real intellectuals. My gut says their loss.

    Replies: @Spmoore8

    Thank you. I will say, Macaulay is always fun to read. Great style and a cunning sense of humor.

  41. Telling White Dudes they have to have “respectful deference” to Black dudes is pretty much a recipe for a fight; or at the very least incitement to pretty much every White Dude on the planet to be “racist” or maybe “rayyyyccccciiiiisssss” since that’s better than being someone’s groveling serf.

    Why the hell should anyone be “respectfully deferential?” Tell that to Bill Belichick. Or John Harbaugh. Or Rex Ryan. Or Bruce Arians. Or Nick Saban. Or I imagine, Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers, and Eli Manning.

    Black people and their SWPL anti-White working class allies in the Sportainment Industry are pushing things too hard. “Paul Kersey” as SBDL thinks we have reached peak NFL, he may be right. At least in part, the NFL has failed to expand internationally because Europeans and Chinese and Mexicans don’t really worship Blacks that much. Rather, they have fairly negative views on Black people as a whole.

    Professional sports and the NFL in particular is regimented and hierarchical. And there is a difference between racial insults hurled at someone and having to grovel and bow just because that someone is Black.

    Telling White coaches and players particularly the stars who do stuff Black QBs really can’t (a quick read and hitting the open man) to grovel just gets their back up. Telling the White fans to grovel makes them tune out.

    There are a gazillion sports alternatives: NASCAR, Golf, a million streams on Liveleak if you have a Roku, etc. If the NFL is just Thug Anti-White Anti-Flag Whitey baiting, making the fat old farts who own the teams and crave respectability, above “guaranteed” profits, then it will go the way of Boxing and Professional Race Walking.

  42. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they're busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They're internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Crawfurdmuir, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Front toward enemy, @L Woods

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they’re busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They’re internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    They should take up a sport themselves. Shooting would be a good one, as it is a practical skill at any age. It was once America’s national sport, as it still is Switzerland’s. In the 1890s, coverage of the long-range matches at Creedmoor took up as many column inches in the newspapers as accounts of baseball games. Thomas Jefferson advised:

    “As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks.” – letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

  43. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they're busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They're internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Crawfurdmuir, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Front toward enemy, @L Woods

    The difference is that shitposting on Twitter doesn’t give money and social standing to aggressive, aggrieved, entitled dopes.

    As a non-American it amazes me that the idea that colleges have no business funneling athletic talent to the professional realms and prolific ball-handlers don’t actually belong with your daughters in institutions of learning is whoa, hang on there crazy out-of-the-box thinking even to deplorables.

    • Replies: @27 year old
    @Anonymous

    That's previous level crazy talk, the new new is that our daughters don't belong in institutions of learning

    Replies: @Desiderius

  44. @Anonymous
    @SPMoore8

    because it’s a basic way of connecting with my immediate and extended family.

    You aren't really connecting with them. It is an illusion.

    You really connect when you spend time with them building the strength and welfare of one another and that of your real life team.

    Replies: @Spmoore8

    I did all that. But if all they want to do is talk about sports, you either share it with them, or you don’t.

    It’s not just kids, either. It’s siblings, cousins, friends, co-workers, etc. The content of interpersonal interactions is irrelevant. What you don’t want is people gaping in silence when you get on your hobby horse.

    • Agree: ben tillman
    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Spmoore8

    Lead them.

  45. I’ve been a fan of Hunter Thompson since I first saw the film adaptation of Fear & Loathing as a 13 year old back in ’97. Since then I’ve read pretty much his entire body of work. The preamble to “Generation of Swine” contained one of his Air Force personnel reports from the ’50s — it read like one of my own. I always considered him and I kindred spirits after that.

    However what annoyed TF out of me was his (to coin a phrase) “civil rights negro chic”. Which I suppose could be both expected and forgiven of a contrarian from such a time. He was a cool guy, it was cool to love negroes back then.

    My point — now that I have meandered back to it — is that sportswriters seem to still be in the “cool to love negroes” phase. Which we all know is long past. I am firmly in the Kerseyian camp with regard to modern professional sports — a pox on them all.

    • Replies: @Spmoore8
    @BenKenobi

    If you haven't read Tom Wolfe's little book on this, do so now. Funny as hell.

    Regular black people do not dig patronizing civil rights chic. But they probably will want to talk about sports. Like it or not, it's the coin of the realm.

    Replies: @pepperinmono

  46. An astonishing piece. The author basically hates White people, and bounces around criticizing White players, NFL executives, and runs through the usual tropes about inequality. And we get treated to such lines as:

    The vitriol highlights how diversity is hollow without a commitment to interrogating blind spots created by whiteness and a dedication to fostering societal transformation.

    So it is not nearly enough to just be diverse; we must properly kiss the proper backside. And foster some societal transformation… I suspect the “societal transformation” most people want doesn’t equal what David Leonard thinks we should have.

    • Replies: @ic1000
    @bomag

    As far as its arguments, Leonard's long-winded essay is throw-spaghetti-at-the-refrigerator-and-see-what-sticks incoherent. But the tl;dr version is clear: in the second paragraph he celebrates Kaepernick’s stance -- “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."

    This is a white humanities professor's dumbed-down application of Genius T. Coates' line of reasoning in Between The World And Me. Black people are awesomely wonderful. Racism, Jim Crow, Microaggressions. White privilege. White people are loathsome, institutions built by whites are hateful. Whitey gonna Reap The Whirlwind. Notwithstanding that, I like hanging with goodwhites, who can be saved, you can be Elected upon my say-so.

    It's true that Professor Leonard is guilty of Not Getting The Joke, even though Steve's short excerpt of Leonard's writing is pretty damn funny. But we shouldn't hold it against him: it's the Current Year. An academician's career and self-respect hinges on zie ability to follow, and with enthusiasm.

    Replies: @bomag

  47. @The Practical Conservative
    @Anonymous

    It would help if you suggested activities that promoted group bonding and sociability rather than activities that tend towards the isolated and workaholic.

    A lot of people feel like they're down to sports for that, since other suggestions invariably are isolating and solitary.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SPMoore8, @rod1963, @Percy Gryce, @AndrewR

    Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary.

    That said, prior to the elevation of pro-sports into what amounts to a secular religion for the Helots by the establishment. Men used to have other methods of socializing including clubs like the Lions, Moose, Elks, Eagle or church sponsored activities. Which BTW are much more emotionally fulfilling than those idiotic beer sodden reveries that make up socializing at sporting events).

    Of course men had hobbies as well for personal enjoyment. From the 30’s onwards up until the late 90’s men had magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics that were loaded with how-to articles for the home craftsman or hobbyist. Sadly they started dying out at the same time schools removed shop classes for their students(which ensured no future generations of students would find out working with their hands can be fun and useful) and the computer revolution finished them off by reducing them to worthless glossies.

    You know at one time almost every town had a Tandy’s Leatherworking outlet(it later became Tandy/RadioShack). Imagine that, leather crafts were that popular at one time.

    Oh yeah, model building was big as well.

    It’s really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.

    That was white Americana of yesteryear.

    • Agree: PiltdownMan
    • Replies: @Clyde
    @rod1963


    It’s really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.
    That was white Americana of yesteryear.
     
    I went to an academic public high school but we had shop classes. Matter of fact my father was in the sheet metal industry and finished off his working years as a public school shop teacher.
    I still remember my drafting class teacher. My woodworking classes.
    Another good thing is the male high school teachers were mostly WW2 and Korean war vets so we had a much stronger male presence than what kids get today in the poisonously feminized school systems (generalizing here of course)

    Replies: @ganderson

    , @PiltdownMan
    @rod1963

    A few years ago, my middle school child complained about how there were fewer and fewer extracurricular activities in her school where students could "build things and use my hands to make stuff." I, and a couple of like-minded older parents, brought it up at the PTA meeting, and we suggested reinstating some of activities that had quietly dropped out of the offerings in the previous decade, including gardening, woodworking, sewing and needlework and so on.

    The dead-eyed response we got from most of the assembled parents, mostly thirty and youngish forty somethings, was unnerving. Then somebody else brightly suggested that we consider "educating our dear ones for the times" and talked about a "Money and Investing for Kids" activity that a private school she knew about happened to offer. A lively and enthusiastic discussion followed.

    There is no hope.

    Replies: @PenskeFile

    , @E. Rekshun
    @rod1963

    Good post!

    Popular Mechanics

    Yes. I just renewed my $15 annual subscription to Popular Mechanics, and it offered two additional free subscriptions for two friends! It's excellent! On the other hand, I recently let my ESPN Magazine subscription expire - it was nothing but black athlete worship and anti-White criticism. Sports Illustrated is getting just as bad.

    And I worked at Radio Shack during college.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill Jones

    , @Sunbeam
    @rod1963

    "Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary."

    Yeah. There is another related angle to this whole thing though.

    My younger relatives have no link or real interest in sports of any sort. They didn't play them in high school, didn't really bother to attend games either.

    They have no knowledge or interest in basketball, football, baseball, soccer, etc. And the members of their circle of friends don't seem to have any interest in any of it either.

    Just saying that aside from the whole ESPN bundled cable package thing, the pro sports leagues in this country are going to have a heck of a problem with exactly who is going to be their viewerbase in 20 years.

    Because to my eyes at least they have a heck of a problem in that regard coming down the pike, let alone the cord cutting thing.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Jim Don Bob

    , @ben tillman
    @rod1963


    It’s really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.
     
    This kind of mechanical knowledge laid the foundation for more than that: It, plus an egalitarian community, laid the foundation for the semiconductor revolution:

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2010/07/how-to-get-into-college.html


    Re. snobbery, Ivy League, etc.: why the non-snobby Yankee Congregationalists of Grinnell, Iowa started the semiconductor revolution, and why the snobby Yankees of the East totally missed it.

    Tom Wolfe, "The Tinkerings of Robert Noyce" [dead link]

    "Not having your own house didn't carry the social onus in Grinnell that it did in the East. There was no upper crust in Grinnell. There were no top people who kept the social score in such matters. Congregationalists rejected the idea of a social hierarchy as fiercely as they did the idea of a religious hierarchy."

    "Corporations in the East adopted a feudal approach to organization, without even being aware of it. There were kings and lords, and there were vassals, soldiers, yeomen, and serfs, with layers of protocol and perquisites, such as the car and driver, to symbolize superiority and establish the boundary lines."

    "Robert Noyce and His Congregation"
    http://www.forbes.com/asap/1997/0825/102_print.html
     

  48. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they're busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They're internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Crawfurdmuir, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Front toward enemy, @L Woods

    but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable

    This isn’t about one upmanship. It’s about us together – our being stronger individually and as a team. Maybe you would have more easily grasped that if you cut off the sportsball and released your team spirit into another realm.

  49. @BenKenobi
    I've been a fan of Hunter Thompson since I first saw the film adaptation of Fear & Loathing as a 13 year old back in '97. Since then I've read pretty much his entire body of work. The preamble to "Generation of Swine" contained one of his Air Force personnel reports from the '50s -- it read like one of my own. I always considered him and I kindred spirits after that.

    However what annoyed TF out of me was his (to coin a phrase) "civil rights negro chic". Which I suppose could be both expected and forgiven of a contrarian from such a time. He was a cool guy, it was cool to love negroes back then.

    My point -- now that I have meandered back to it -- is that sportswriters seem to still be in the "cool to love negroes" phase. Which we all know is long past. I am firmly in the Kerseyian camp with regard to modern professional sports -- a pox on them all.

    Replies: @Spmoore8

    If you haven’t read Tom Wolfe’s little book on this, do so now. Funny as hell.

    Regular black people do not dig patronizing civil rights chic. But they probably will want to talk about sports. Like it or not, it’s the coin of the realm.

    • Replies: @pepperinmono
    @Spmoore8

    Tom Wolfe also has hilarious and spot on stuff about black and white interrelationships in basketball in I Am Charlotte Simmons.
    Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports.
    One has to get over this if one is white and expects to excel.
    Not everyone can or wants to .
    I once played this pretty good chess player black dude.
    For him it was "street chess".
    He would glare at me , mumble trash talk, slam moved pieces hard on the table "in your face" style.
    Just like playing basketball with them.
    It was unnerving at first.
    All athletes/competitors do this to a certain extent, but blacks have it down to a science.
    If they detect it bothers you , it can be relentless.

    Replies: @Desiderius

  50. • Replies: @Jefferson
    @5371

    "African genius (I know, redundant) says Trump and Pootin are poisoning Her:"

    Bad actor Will Smith with a crappy Nigerian accent played him in a film.

    , @res
    @5371


    African genius (I know, redundant) says Trump and Pootin are poisoning Her:
     
    And Ctrl-F "conspir" gives one hit in the comments.

    Contrast that to the WaPo (same paper) article recently discussed on iSteve which alleges a conspiracy theory and backtracked less than a week later:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/06/the-questions-about-hillary-clintons-health-are-absurd/

    We truly have gone through the looking glass.
  51. Solzhenitsyn in a speech after he got deep sixed because of what he said at Harvard:

    “…in the Soviet Union, sports acts as the opium of the people.”
    The Soft Voice of America, Natl.Review, April 30, 1982, p.479.

    But no, in exceptional America, we haven’t added drunkeness to thirst.

    K should stick with what he knows best, the pointy brown ball or Heather McDonald is gonna eat him for lunch.

  52. @Anonymous
    We need to let go of sportsball. Colossal waste of time and money. Let's dedicate our time, our lives to things more important.

    You could be learning a language, getting exercise, reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, maintaining your home, picking up a new skill, taking a free online course, working a few extra hours at your trade or profession.

    Let's shun this terrible waste with determination.

    Replies: @The Practical Conservative, @Anonymous, @duncsbaby, @Realist, @Former Darfur

    Will I be as virtuous if I only read the abridged version of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire?

    • Replies: @Tom-in-VA
    @duncsbaby

    No, you have to read the full version, in the original Latin.

  53. @George
    @WorkingClass

    Kaepernick Jersey Sales Jump To No. 1 In The NFL

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/07/kaepernick-jersey-sales-jump-to-no-1-in-the-nfl/#ixzz4K6e1ViuC

    Replies: @Devops Dad, @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Forbes

  54. @Chrisnonymous
    @whorefinder


    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team,
     
    Somebody should do a re-make of the Redford movie "The Natural", but about a young black NFL quarterback. The twist? The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family who marries for the celebrity and money of being a black QB but falls for the coach's white, younger son, who is educated and well-behaved.

    It would combine a leftist narrative about race with under the radar cultural obsessions like jungle fever and cougars. Plus, it would flatter black women. Throw in some steamy bedroom scenes and suggestive locker room scenes. I predict a hit.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @TangoMan, @Cloudbuster

    The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family

    How does a screenwriter convey a talented tenth Black in the present year? Every Black is supremely talented or is a Magic Negro. With all of the AA and quota hiring rampant in society, there are well-to-do Blacks all over the place and this ruins the phenomenon of talented tenth rising on merit and it being self-evidently true that the well-to-do Black has risen to his station in life by his talents.

    Justice Thomas is bitter about Affirmative Action Stigma. This stigma erases the concept of talented tenth from the public consciousness because there is no way to find them in the high noise-low signal environment created by these artificial uplift programs.

    Would the audience even know what a talented tenth family is?

    • Replies: @Chrisnonymous
    @TangoMan

    You're too focused on "talented". Perhaps I misused the phrase. The "talented" part would not be as important to the plot as status. All you have to do is give the black woman a camel hair coat and a Burberry scarf and make her an opera singer. The audience would get it right away.

    Any producers out there can contact me for a script via iSteve...

    , @Anonymous
    @TangoMan


    How does a screenwriter convey a talented tenth Black in the present year? Every Black is supremely talented or is a Magic Negro. With all of the AA and quota hiring rampant in society, there are well-to-do Blacks all over the place and this ruins the phenomenon of talented tenth rising on merit and it being self-evidently true that the well-to-do Black has risen to his station in life by his talents.
     
    A hippyish light-skinned libertarian Mt. Holyoke grad rather than an Ivy/Stanford grad.
  55. Is it still a NCAA violation if Leonard is paying the Washington State football players to shtup his wife?

  56. @5371
    African genius (I know, redundant) says Trump and Pootin are poisoning Her:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/12/the-man-who-discovered-cte-thinks-hillary-clinton-may-have-been-poisoned/

    Replies: @Jefferson, @res

    “African genius (I know, redundant) says Trump and Pootin are poisoning Her:”

    Bad actor Will Smith with a crappy Nigerian accent played him in a film.

  57. I saw a photo of the Seattle Seahawks linking arms in their much ballyhooed unity gesture. Out of twenty players shown only three-four were white. With one black guy raising a fist/in a black power salute. I never watch pro-football and get no sports stations/ESPN on my minimal cable package, so f ’em! They are not getting my money so don’t blame me.

  58. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    When you described the drunk cynic, my mind immediately jumped to Bob Ryan. So it’s obvious to a lot of people that’s exactly what he is.

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Chase

    30-40 years of covering for dindus who don't respect you, commit crimes and get away with it, throw games, use steroids, and who you watch violate white girls will cause a man to spiral into the misery that Bob Ryan.

    , @Anonymous
    @Chase

    Ryan is neither drunk nor cynic. He remains enthusiastic about his subjects in his "retirement." He's also not a sports-only guy; he travels the world, spends time with grandchildren and appreciates culture, such as it is. Is he a liberal? Probably, but he surely "notices," even if he's commercially-inclined enough to keep things to himself.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Danindc

  59. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    I knew a black lady doctor who used to be married to the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Lurker, @Brutusale, @Truth, @Triumph104, @MEH 0910

    TMI! ;D

  60. I hadn’t paid attention to Kaepernick between the time he was the future of the QB position and his current protest. What happened in between? He’s a backup now? How much of his protest is based on resentment about that?

    More generally, how embarrassing is it for the Obama fanboys that this protest is happening after nearly two full terms of him as president?

    I knew Obama wouldn’t improve race relations (to use that euphemism) because I saw what happened with Dinkins in New York. Same expectations, but Obama has actually managed to do worse.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @Dave Pinsen

    "I knew Obama wouldn’t improve race relations"

    The Left will say Obama is not to blame for the worsening of race relations in the last 8 years, they will say it's the fault of Republicans, White people in general, Breitbart, Conservative talk radio, Fox News, the Alt-Right, White police officers, Donald Trump, Ann Coulter, and the KKK.

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

    , @Ken
    @Dave Pinsen

    Good point; he's playing behind Blaine Gabbert, a truly awful white QB. Must really sting.

  61. @rod1963
    @The Practical Conservative

    Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary.

    That said, prior to the elevation of pro-sports into what amounts to a secular religion for the Helots by the establishment. Men used to have other methods of socializing including clubs like the Lions, Moose, Elks, Eagle or church sponsored activities. Which BTW are much more emotionally fulfilling than those idiotic beer sodden reveries that make up socializing at sporting events).

    Of course men had hobbies as well for personal enjoyment. From the 30's onwards up until the late 90's men had magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics that were loaded with how-to articles for the home craftsman or hobbyist. Sadly they started dying out at the same time schools removed shop classes for their students(which ensured no future generations of students would find out working with their hands can be fun and useful) and the computer revolution finished them off by reducing them to worthless glossies.

    You know at one time almost every town had a Tandy's Leatherworking outlet(it later became Tandy/RadioShack). Imagine that, leather crafts were that popular at one time.

    Oh yeah, model building was big as well.

    It's really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.

    That was white Americana of yesteryear.

    Replies: @Clyde, @PiltdownMan, @E. Rekshun, @Sunbeam, @ben tillman

    It’s really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.
    That was white Americana of yesteryear.

    I went to an academic public high school but we had shop classes. Matter of fact my father was in the sheet metal industry and finished off his working years as a public school shop teacher.
    I still remember my drafting class teacher. My woodworking classes.
    Another good thing is the male high school teachers were mostly WW2 and Korean war vets so we had a much stronger male presence than what kids get today in the poisonously feminized school systems (generalizing here of course)

    • Replies: @ganderson
    @Clyde

    "poisonously feminized school systems"

    Well put. I teach in a public school and you are correct!

  62. @TangoMan
    @Chrisnonymous

    The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family

    How does a screenwriter convey a talented tenth Black in the present year? Every Black is supremely talented or is a Magic Negro. With all of the AA and quota hiring rampant in society, there are well-to-do Blacks all over the place and this ruins the phenomenon of talented tenth rising on merit and it being self-evidently true that the well-to-do Black has risen to his station in life by his talents.

    Justice Thomas is bitter about Affirmative Action Stigma. This stigma erases the concept of talented tenth from the public consciousness because there is no way to find them in the high noise-low signal environment created by these artificial uplift programs.

    Would the audience even know what a talented tenth family is?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Anonymous

    You’re too focused on “talented”. Perhaps I misused the phrase. The “talented” part would not be as important to the plot as status. All you have to do is give the black woman a camel hair coat and a Burberry scarf and make her an opera singer. The audience would get it right away.

    Any producers out there can contact me for a script via iSteve…

  63. @Hepp
    Breitbart has a summary of the disgusting support that the ESPN announcers gave to this protest.

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/09/12/colin-kaepernick-takes-a-knee-during-national-anthem-before-taking-seat-for-49ers-opener/

    Steve Young, a pro-gay marriage Mormon, was absolutely ecstatic about the brilliant and deep thought that the protest represented.

    Will Trump pick up this issue?

    Replies: @gruff, @Dennis Dale

    He’d be wise not to.

  64. OT:

    Steve,
    Don’t you think the Ryan Lochte Dancing with the Stars protest is iSteve-y?
    Brazilians are used to fans storming things like soccer fields to do things like cut the heads off refs. Americans not so much. Is this a harbinger of our future life in Brasil Norte?

    Note to conspiracy fans: the protesters seem to have Iranian names!!!!!!!!!

  65. @rod1963
    @The Practical Conservative

    Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary.

    That said, prior to the elevation of pro-sports into what amounts to a secular religion for the Helots by the establishment. Men used to have other methods of socializing including clubs like the Lions, Moose, Elks, Eagle or church sponsored activities. Which BTW are much more emotionally fulfilling than those idiotic beer sodden reveries that make up socializing at sporting events).

    Of course men had hobbies as well for personal enjoyment. From the 30's onwards up until the late 90's men had magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics that were loaded with how-to articles for the home craftsman or hobbyist. Sadly they started dying out at the same time schools removed shop classes for their students(which ensured no future generations of students would find out working with their hands can be fun and useful) and the computer revolution finished them off by reducing them to worthless glossies.

    You know at one time almost every town had a Tandy's Leatherworking outlet(it later became Tandy/RadioShack). Imagine that, leather crafts were that popular at one time.

    Oh yeah, model building was big as well.

    It's really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.

    That was white Americana of yesteryear.

    Replies: @Clyde, @PiltdownMan, @E. Rekshun, @Sunbeam, @ben tillman

    A few years ago, my middle school child complained about how there were fewer and fewer extracurricular activities in her school where students could “build things and use my hands to make stuff.” I, and a couple of like-minded older parents, brought it up at the PTA meeting, and we suggested reinstating some of activities that had quietly dropped out of the offerings in the previous decade, including gardening, woodworking, sewing and needlework and so on.

    The dead-eyed response we got from most of the assembled parents, mostly thirty and youngish forty somethings, was unnerving. Then somebody else brightly suggested that we consider “educating our dear ones for the times” and talked about a “Money and Investing for Kids” activity that a private school she knew about happened to offer. A lively and enthusiastic discussion followed.

    There is no hope.

    • Replies: @PenskeFile
    @PiltdownMan

    There has been a huge surge of so-called "Maker" activities for youth in recent years. Much of this is related to robotics, home automation and drones and is tied to 3D printing. Libs of course hate the term "Maker" as it was used by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged.

    The guys at Myth Busters certainly helped get this going as they showed off their fabrication facilities in very interesting ways.

    Tech Shop offers a reasonably cost-effective way to get access to some nice equipment as well. http://www.techshop.ws/

    Look outside your school to some community organizations if your fellow parents are not willing to get on board and prefer to groom their kids for futures as Lords of Finance

  66. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    I pay zero attention to sports writing and TV/ESPN commentary these days, so many thanks for your most excellent deconstruction of it. So damn pathetic!
    I do remember Boston Globe sports writer Bob Ryan from years ago. His book Scribe: My Life in Sports, published Oct 7, 2014, got 150 Amazon reviews so hopefully he made some money.

  67. @Anonymous
    We need to let go of sportsball. Colossal waste of time and money. Let's dedicate our time, our lives to things more important.

    You could be learning a language, getting exercise, reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, maintaining your home, picking up a new skill, taking a free online course, working a few extra hours at your trade or profession.

    Let's shun this terrible waste with determination.

    Replies: @The Practical Conservative, @Anonymous, @duncsbaby, @Realist, @Former Darfur

    I agree with what you say, but this country is overwhelmed with idiots and people with no ambition. People with higher intelligence and high ambition are already doing as you say. You can not talk idiots into being smart and successful.

  68. @SnakeEyes
    ESPN is the absolute worst in this department.

    Replies: @The Last Real Calvinist

    ESPN is the absolute worst in this department.

    I think Deadspin is the worst, but lately ESPN has been catching up fast . . . .

    • Replies: @Carbon blob
    @The Last Real Calvinist

    I used to like Deadspin, but gave them up 8 years ago when they started on their hypocritical white-knighting crusade for Erin Andrews.

  69. @Dave Pinsen
    I hadn't paid attention to Kaepernick between the time he was the future of the QB position and his current protest. What happened in between? He's a backup now? How much of his protest is based on resentment about that?

    More generally, how embarrassing is it for the Obama fanboys that this protest is happening after nearly two full terms of him as president?

    I knew Obama wouldn't improve race relations (to use that euphemism) because I saw what happened with Dinkins in New York. Same expectations, but Obama has actually managed to do worse.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Ken

    “I knew Obama wouldn’t improve race relations”

    The Left will say Obama is not to blame for the worsening of race relations in the last 8 years, they will say it’s the fault of Republicans, White people in general, Breitbart, Conservative talk radio, Fox News, the Alt-Right, White police officers, Donald Trump, Ann Coulter, and the KKK.

    • Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca
    @Jefferson

    You forgot Pepe the Frog. Must'n't forget Pepe.

  70. “Proximity to African Americans doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference — even in a space like the NFL, where white athletes are outnumbered by black ones.”

    Wow, just wow.

  71. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    I knew a black lady doctor who used to be married to the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Lurker, @Brutusale, @Truth, @Triumph104, @MEH 0910

    The way things are going with WWT, a black lady doctor will be Heavyweight Champion of the World.

  72. @rod1963
    @The Practical Conservative

    Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary.

    That said, prior to the elevation of pro-sports into what amounts to a secular religion for the Helots by the establishment. Men used to have other methods of socializing including clubs like the Lions, Moose, Elks, Eagle or church sponsored activities. Which BTW are much more emotionally fulfilling than those idiotic beer sodden reveries that make up socializing at sporting events).

    Of course men had hobbies as well for personal enjoyment. From the 30's onwards up until the late 90's men had magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics that were loaded with how-to articles for the home craftsman or hobbyist. Sadly they started dying out at the same time schools removed shop classes for their students(which ensured no future generations of students would find out working with their hands can be fun and useful) and the computer revolution finished them off by reducing them to worthless glossies.

    You know at one time almost every town had a Tandy's Leatherworking outlet(it later became Tandy/RadioShack). Imagine that, leather crafts were that popular at one time.

    Oh yeah, model building was big as well.

    It's really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.

    That was white Americana of yesteryear.

    Replies: @Clyde, @PiltdownMan, @E. Rekshun, @Sunbeam, @ben tillman

    Good post!

    Popular Mechanics

    Yes. I just renewed my $15 annual subscription to Popular Mechanics, and it offered two additional free subscriptions for two friends! It’s excellent! On the other hand, I recently let my ESPN Magazine subscription expire – it was nothing but black athlete worship and anti-White criticism. Sports Illustrated is getting just as bad.

    And I worked at Radio Shack during college.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @E. Rekshun

    Remember The Amateur Scientist in the Scientific American?

    https://ia802701.us.archive.org/11/items/TheAmateurScientist/Stong-TheAmateurScientist.pdf

    A homemade atom smasher ("for less than the cost of set of golf clubs"). Bathtub aerodynamics ("what you can learn from 'flying' model airplanes in water"). Amateur rocketry ("detailed instructions for building two research rockets") . An inexpensive x-ray machine ("with old radio tubes and copper wire"). Homemade electrostatic generators (build 100k volt generator for under $5). The "Hilsch" vortex tube (a simple device which can deliver -70 degrees F air). How to make the flow of air visible (for $3 and a camera and vacuum cleaner)

    , @Bill Jones
    @E. Rekshun

    Yup, PM is about at the point where they pay you to read their ads.

  73. @Chase
    @whorefinder

    When you described the drunk cynic, my mind immediately jumped to Bob Ryan. So it's obvious to a lot of people that's exactly what he is.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous

    30-40 years of covering for dindus who don’t respect you, commit crimes and get away with it, throw games, use steroids, and who you watch violate white girls will cause a man to spiral into the misery that Bob Ryan.

  74. @Johnny789
    I won't rest until the NFL is 100% Black from the top to the bottom. I won't!

    Replies: @Lurker

    Only 100%? What are you, some sort of white supremacist?

  75. Football (soccer) joke I heard the other day:

    Q: What’s the definition of professional football?

    A: Twenty two rapists ruining a lawn.

  76. doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference

    As a non-American I always thought the alt-right criticism of the NBA/NFL having doughy white male sports journalists who secretly worship black athletes to be a paranoid reaction. Now I may still question the extent, but not it’s existence!

    I already composed an idea of what this guy looked like and it was almost completely correct. Effeminate face with glasses and prematurely receding hair-line. Bonus points:
    Smiling creepily in all photographs.
    Excessive use of social media, principally Twitter.
    Wears beret.
    Mentions is father but still acts like an adolescent on Twitter.

    It’s interesting how all journalists, particularly ones who work for online publications are converging to a type. I’d blame the explosion of J-Schools, credentialism and the explosion of college-educated Gen Ys with no hard skills jamming up anything to do with ‘writing’. I believe elite overproduction theory would make most sense out of it all.

    • Replies: @grapesoda
    @Altai

    "I already composed an idea of what this guy looked like and it was almost completely correct. Effeminate face with glasses and prematurely receding hair-line."

    That's exactly what Nate Silver looks like.

  77. @Anonymous
    We need to let go of sportsball. Colossal waste of time and money. Let's dedicate our time, our lives to things more important.

    You could be learning a language, getting exercise, reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, maintaining your home, picking up a new skill, taking a free online course, working a few extra hours at your trade or profession.

    Let's shun this terrible waste with determination.

    Replies: @The Practical Conservative, @Anonymous, @duncsbaby, @Realist, @Former Darfur

    Bowling used to be that sport: participatory, and not that strenuous.
    Putt putt golf and Skee-Ball were up there too.

    Now, there’s Topgolf, which is a sort of massive pinball machine of golf: you stand on a balcony and whack balls into these circular scoring pits.

    Me, I like shooting and archery.

    And, of course, there’s always music, playing in a band. That’ll keep you busy.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Former Darfur

    Playing music with a group - terrific suggestion.

    , @Desiderius
    @Former Darfur


    Putt putt golf
     
    As a teenager, I used to play in weekly Putt-Putt tournaments with 40-50 people (mostly men) ages 12-72. We even had a group that would stay after the course closed and play for high stakes in the ambient light. Sadly, it has mostly died off.
  78. Anon • Disclaimer says:

    Proximity? Ha. Ask any white living close to the vibrant Chicago Community areas. They understand well and defer — choosing to stay as far away as possible. Unless they wish to buy drugs.

    Imagine a career where you must spend 24/7 explaining how things aren’t what they appear to be and it’s always your lying, racist eyes. It gets to be work. The French spent the entire post war period in the intellectual salt mines proving that its all a cultural construct making any effort to explain away collaboration a moot point.

    I follow Chicago homicides instead of sports scores. The Mexicans rack up some bodies, but these are black boys murdering their brothers. The reality that the Ferguson effect has racked up a couple hundred dead black bodies in Chicago this year. In the 48 to 72 hours it takes to get their protest demonstrations assembled, another half dozen black murders were committed with 6 or more times as many non fatal shootings.

    Whatever. It takes work to constantly not notice. Outside of sports, the outcomes for blacks are always dismal. Which have to be explained away or adjusted away by controlling for other dismal outcomes … poverty, dysfunctional families, etc, etc. I suppose it is just an axiom that its caused by racism. So haul in some Asian post docs adjust the data, in those rare instances where they even bother with data.

    Somehow the lessons of the last 45 years of MLK day and black history month haven’t enlightened the protestors that a big part of protest its cost to the protestor. No one is suggesting taking a bullet like MLK instead of a knee — but jesus — losing an endorsement enhances the social signaling. If everyone just says, “cool, right on baby” then its not much of a gesture. Just saying.

  79. Is the national anthem played at the Hand Egg games? as a non-american, that feels very strange, why is it played or sung?

    • Replies: @Anon
    @empty

    Dunno. Might have something to do with the first commissioner of the league bring a balls out Marine Medal of Honor winner.

  80. @Altai

    doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference
     
    As a non-American I always thought the alt-right criticism of the NBA/NFL having doughy white male sports journalists who secretly worship black athletes to be a paranoid reaction. Now I may still question the extent, but not it's existence!

    I already composed an idea of what this guy looked like and it was almost completely correct. Effeminate face with glasses and prematurely receding hair-line. Bonus points:
    Smiling creepily in all photographs.
    Excessive use of social media, principally Twitter.
    Wears beret.
    Mentions is father but still acts like an adolescent on Twitter.

    It's interesting how all journalists, particularly ones who work for online publications are converging to a type. I'd blame the explosion of J-Schools, credentialism and the explosion of college-educated Gen Ys with no hard skills jamming up anything to do with 'writing'. I believe elite overproduction theory would make most sense out of it all.

    Replies: @grapesoda

    “I already composed an idea of what this guy looked like and it was almost completely correct. Effeminate face with glasses and prematurely receding hair-line.”

    That’s exactly what Nate Silver looks like.

  81. @duncsbaby
    @Anonymous

    Will I be as virtuous if I only read the abridged version of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire?

    Replies: @Tom-in-VA

    No, you have to read the full version, in the original Latin.

  82. In other words, it’s disappointing that group whites can work with and get along with blacks in a professional environment and still retain independent thought and opinions. Just like real life, as experienced by most people.

  83. @George
    @WorkingClass

    Kaepernick Jersey Sales Jump To No. 1 In The NFL

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/07/kaepernick-jersey-sales-jump-to-no-1-in-the-nfl/#ixzz4K6e1ViuC

    Replies: @Devops Dad, @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    small, non-liquid markets can be manipulated easily for headlines imo

  84. @The Last Real Calvinist
    @SnakeEyes


    ESPN is the absolute worst in this department.

     

    I think Deadspin is the worst, but lately ESPN has been catching up fast . . . .

    Replies: @Carbon blob

    I used to like Deadspin, but gave them up 8 years ago when they started on their hypocritical white-knighting crusade for Erin Andrews.

  85. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    By talking amongst ourselves on Twitter, our eyes are being opened. We are learning.

    By posting on Twitter, we are also influencing the public discourse. Our voices are being heard, if not listened to. We are changing to course of history.

    Netflix is a different animal. I advocate people avoid it.

    Replies: @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Except for “Stranger Things”, that was amazing.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @DCThrowback

    Stranger Things was average at best. You sound like a cuckball fan.

  86. “or even respectful deference”

    I think that a great deal of the rhetoric of racism can be interpreted as a focused effort to enforce deference. The goal is that whites should be conditioned to reflexively defer to blacks and their white allies on any issue that touches upon race, and to see this as the natural order of things. Once you’ve established that when it comes to race, whites are given to self-delusion, while blacks can never be deluded, everything else follows without effort.

    • Agree: AndrewR
    • Replies: @AndrewR
    @jb

    Yeah. Hillary a while back had a series of tweets saying that white people need to listen to blacks talk about their experiences more.

    This, of course, is not a bad idea per se. Whites can't fully understand blacks without listening.

    Of course it's a two-way street, and of course Hillary didn't mention the other side: that blacks need to listen to whites too. I guess that fairness is racist.

    , @Drake
    @jb


    The goal is that whites should be conditioned to reflexively defer to blacks and their white allies on any issue that touches upon race
     
    This is insightful. It explains how anti-white prejudice allows some whites to gain power over the other whites, by posing as allies of nonwhites.

    It delegitimizes old authorities while creating new ones, and makes it "racist" to criticize them.
  87. @jb
    "or even respectful deference"

    I think that a great deal of the rhetoric of racism can be interpreted as a focused effort to enforce deference. The goal is that whites should be conditioned to reflexively defer to blacks and their white allies on any issue that touches upon race, and to see this as the natural order of things. Once you've established that when it comes to race, whites are given to self-delusion, while blacks can never be deluded, everything else follows without effort.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Drake

    Yeah. Hillary a while back had a series of tweets saying that white people need to listen to blacks talk about their experiences more.

    This, of course, is not a bad idea per se. Whites can’t fully understand blacks without listening.

    Of course it’s a two-way street, and of course Hillary didn’t mention the other side: that blacks need to listen to whites too. I guess that fairness is racist.

  88. @The Practical Conservative
    @Anonymous

    It would help if you suggested activities that promoted group bonding and sociability rather than activities that tend towards the isolated and workaholic.

    A lot of people feel like they're down to sports for that, since other suggestions invariably are isolating and solitary.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SPMoore8, @rod1963, @Percy Gryce, @AndrewR

    Two things I’ve tried recently: chess and fencing.

    (1) Chess: the classic game of strategy and cerebration. I realized that I don’t have the patience to really study it, but I have learned a few things and I think I could, if I concentrated, do better than look completely foolish against most opponents.

    (2) Fencing: the traditional Western martial art. It’s good cardio–also called by some the physical equivalent of chess. It also connects us with a glorious Western tradition of swordplay and honorable combat (if only in an oblique and highly refined way).

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Percy Gryce


    Two things I’ve tried recently: chess and fencing.

    (1) Chess: the classic game of strategy and cerebration. I realized that I don’t have the patience to really study it, but I have learned a few things and I think I could, if I concentrated, do better than look completely foolish against most opponents.
     
    I don't want to pursue and practice an activity where an off-the-shelf computer program can easily beat the best human being who has spent 15k hours studying and practicing this game.
  89. @The Practical Conservative
    @Anonymous

    It would help if you suggested activities that promoted group bonding and sociability rather than activities that tend towards the isolated and workaholic.

    A lot of people feel like they're down to sports for that, since other suggestions invariably are isolating and solitary.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @SPMoore8, @rod1963, @Percy Gryce, @AndrewR

    Nothing he mentioned are necessarily solitary activities.

    But ok: how about instead of watching millionaire felon strangers, with whom you have nothing in common, throw balls around, how about playing sports with people you know? Most people who watch sportsball religiously aren’t frail or disabled, and few of them watch sportsball in addition to playing it.

  90. D E F E R E N C E? That is freakin’ harsh and in your face!

  91. @WorkingClass
    The league should crack down hard on protesting players. Protest on your own time or get fired. The league should also get the flag, the pledge and the military OUT of the game. It's supposed to be about football and money.

    Replies: @George, @AndrewR

    I agree on the anthem and military stuff but they are trying to appeal to good old boys who are into flags and gratuitous military adventures and all that American stuff. The NFL has taken on a quasi-religious, quasi-nationalist aura in order to channel religious and nationalist feelings into an easily controlled domain. Our best and only hope is to convince the low-info white fans of the NFL that it is run and staffed by people with vastly different values.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @AndrewR

    Yes, the NFL has wrapped itself in the flag for decades, assuming this would appeal to their fan base. We see how hypocritical it was.

    Replies: @Marcus, @Desiderius

  92. @kaganovitch
    @anon930

    Leonard is not a "Sun people" Leonard in L. Jeffries taxonomy,he is actually an "Ice People" Leonard. A far left Jewish boy from Cali.

    Replies: @AndrewR

    It’s pretty sunny in the middle east.

  93. @bomag
    An astonishing piece. The author basically hates White people, and bounces around criticizing White players, NFL executives, and runs through the usual tropes about inequality. And we get treated to such lines as:

    The vitriol highlights how diversity is hollow without a commitment to interrogating blind spots created by whiteness and a dedication to fostering societal transformation.

    So it is not nearly enough to just be diverse; we must properly kiss the proper backside. And foster some societal transformation... I suspect the "societal transformation" most people want doesn't equal what David Leonard thinks we should have.

    Replies: @ic1000

    As far as its arguments, Leonard’s long-winded essay is throw-spaghetti-at-the-refrigerator-and-see-what-sticks incoherent. But the tl;dr version is clear: in the second paragraph he celebrates Kaepernick’s stance — “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

    This is a white humanities professor’s dumbed-down application of Genius T. Coates’ line of reasoning in Between The World And Me. Black people are awesomely wonderful. Racism, Jim Crow, Microaggressions. White privilege. White people are loathsome, institutions built by whites are hateful. Whitey gonna Reap The Whirlwind. Notwithstanding that, I like hanging with goodwhites, who can be saved, you can be Elected upon my say-so.

    It’s true that Professor Leonard is guilty of Not Getting The Joke, even though Steve’s short excerpt of Leonard’s writing is pretty damn funny. But we shouldn’t hold it against him: it’s the Current Year. An academician’s career and self-respect hinges on zie ability to follow, and with enthusiasm.

    • Replies: @bomag
    @ic1000


    It’s true that Professor Leonard is guilty of Not Getting The Joke...
     
    The ironic subtexts here are so rich. Not just the cloistered professor lecturing us on racial matters, but the implicit conclusion that only White people are capable of changing; only they are worth discussing, Blacks are just a given and there is no use considering their pathologies. Even the moniker "Black Lives Matter" is an admission that most people have come to the opposite conclusion, so we need one of these modern marketing campaigns to sell people something they don't want or need.
  94. … Proximity to African Americans doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference — even in a space like the NFL, where white athletes are outnumbered by black ones.

    I get it. I’m white, and I get it. I empathize with black athletes; hell, with all black folks. I wish they were white, too. I do. I wish they were white – not half black, half white, but full-blown white. Just like me. Then they could enjoy the same wonderful privileges that I have without recriminations from society.

    I have a wish that someday, all God’s chil’lun will be white and not discriminated against because of they skin color. Because we know that it’s skin color that makes the difference among the races, don’t we. Nothing but skin color. LOL.

  95. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    Journalism majors were always the weakest intellectually, on campus. It is an easy major but unfortunately, a select few make it to the larger arena and they are able to actually shape public thought. I believe that is why, especially on topics associated with science and engineering such as energy production, the reporting is so irrational. Well written irrational, but still irrational.

    Then below those mental midgets we call traditional journalists, you have sports journalists. The dumbest of the dumn

    • Replies: @guest
    @WJ

    They have competition from the education and communications departments, but yes, they are stupid.

  96. I used to cover sports for a daily newspaper, and my experience with these people is that they’re almost always left-wing, not because they’ve studied the issues but because they’re deeply insecure. The news reporters look down on them as a bunch of clowns, and will sometimes throw out the “toy department” slur. In an industry where your entire self-worth is wrapped up in a fantasy that you’re doing something important (as opposed to a fat paycheck), being ridiculed by your peers stings. I think sportswriters overcompensate for this by adopting left-wing views. It makes them appear smart, and as long as no one challenges them too much, they can get away with it. And if someone does challenge them, they just start screaming, a la Mike Lupica.

  97. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    The difference is that shitposting on Twitter doesn't give money and social standing to aggressive, aggrieved, entitled dopes.

    As a non-American it amazes me that the idea that colleges have no business funneling athletic talent to the professional realms and prolific ball-handlers don't actually belong with your daughters in institutions of learning is whoa, hang on there crazy out-of-the-box thinking even to deplorables.

    Replies: @27 year old

    That’s previous level crazy talk, the new new is that our daughters don’t belong in institutions of learning

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @27 year old


    our daughters don’t belong in institutions of learning
     
    Where are these institutions of which you speak?
  98. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    Ryan still isn’t as pitiful as Dan Shaughnessy, or the curly-haired bitch, as the immortal Carl Everett once called him.

    I’ll take a knowledgeable Drunk Cynic like Will McDonough any day.

    It’s amazing to read Leonard’s dreck. If there was ever a privileged class, it’s the one that ends up in the NFL. They’ve had their butts kissed and the way smoothed since they were 10-year old Pop Warner players.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Brutusale


    Ryan still isn’t as pitiful as Dan Shaughnessy, or the curly-haired bitch, as the immortal Carl Everett once called him.
     
    After your comment I checked out Dan Shaughnessy. Holy smokes, he looks he could be that clown scaring kids in NC.

    http://cdn.na16.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/dan-shaughnessy-350x197.jpg
  99. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they're busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They're internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Crawfurdmuir, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Front toward enemy, @L Woods

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they’re busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They’re internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts

    I agree that learning a language or reading a dry history book for no apparent reason doesn’t seem fun. But why not a fun leisure activity that also promotes intellectual growth? Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc., which makes you want to learn fundamental principles of physics, engineering, etc. There’s nothing better than a hobby you get so passionate about you love to learn new things, even technical things. E.g., Physics for Gearheads.

    • Replies: @E. Rekshun
    @Anonymous

    Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc.,

    Sounds like great fun, but these "leisure activities" are far, far too expensive for the average working American trying to pay the mortgage, raise a family, and save for retirement. Heck, these leisure activities have ruined many marriages and retirements.

    , @E. Rekshun
    @Anonymous

    Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc.,

    I have, on the other had, been a long-time boater, having bought my first one - a 15 foot w/ a 50HP outboard - for $800 at age 18. A very expensive and time-consuming leisure activity. It will, however, keep you away from the idiot box and sports TV on the weekend.

    Some other posters mentioned shop class. At my high school during the late '70s - early '80s, I was on a typical college prep track but also took four years of shop electives - auto repair, carpentry, and metal working. Back then my community also offered free (or nearly free) vocational training for adults that were interested in learning hands-on skills. Night classes were held at the high school. As a young adult, I took welding, firearm safety, and boating safety classes. I don't see much of this offered anymore; the young people I know wouldn't be interested anyway.

    , @Marty
    @Anonymous

    I have a question for you. Have technology improvements made it feasible to scuba dive alone?

  100. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Chase
    @whorefinder

    When you described the drunk cynic, my mind immediately jumped to Bob Ryan. So it's obvious to a lot of people that's exactly what he is.

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Anonymous

    Ryan is neither drunk nor cynic. He remains enthusiastic about his subjects in his “retirement.” He’s also not a sports-only guy; he travels the world, spends time with grandchildren and appreciates culture, such as it is. Is he a liberal? Probably, but he surely “notices,” even if he’s commercially-inclined enough to keep things to himself.

    • Replies: @Bill Jones
    @Anonymous

    Thank you Mrs. Ryan.

    , @Danindc
    @Anonymous

    Agreed. He's not bad. Knows a ton about basketball and is fun to listen to. There are far worse. He's one of the good ones

  101. @SPMoore8
    @The Practical Conservative

    I spend a lot of my free time studying, this is because I always feel intellectually inadequate and aspire to understand things. And I'm an old guy.

    However, I've always allowed a certain amount of time for sports (and, of course, sports analysis!) and I should say at this point that following sports is a twofer, because it's a basic way of connecting with my immediate and extended family.

    You only have to read Gibbon once. It's not that good.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius, @Brutusale

    I spend time here to make up for the time I’m forced to spend with people for whom the sun rises and sets on the fortunes of the Patriots and the Red $ox. As I make my ducats in sales and marketing, so I have to maintain a certain knowledge of such to grease the wheels of commerce.

    It’s not as bad here as it is in the South. My parents had neighbors in Florida who were a mixed marriage: he went to Auburn and she to Alabama. The day of the BIG GAME, they went to different places to watch it with their own kind.

  102. @Anoni
    I completely support Leonards plan to make the NFL executive staff entirely black. I am sure that will work out wonderfully and showcase wonderful untapped managerial talent. In fact Kaepernick should be the new NFL CEO or whatever. That will show that the NFL is fully committed to its diversity goals.

    Replies: @Father O'Hara

    How come that no talent shmuck seemed to be such a good QB for one lousy year? The
    Niners are stuck with a giant contract with that frizzy haired nitwit,and it serves em right! They were so happy to have the next Magic Negro. Harbaugh,himself a QB, relished benching Alex Smith and elevating CK. That doofus gets paid a bundle to do nothing,and yet has no shame. Wait—that sounds familiar. Hellooo BHO you putz!

  103. @George
    @WorkingClass

    Kaepernick Jersey Sales Jump To No. 1 In The NFL

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/07/kaepernick-jersey-sales-jump-to-no-1-in-the-nfl/#ixzz4K6e1ViuC

    Replies: @Devops Dad, @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    “Kaepernick Jersey Sales Jump To No. 1 In The NFL”

    Kinda like a 21st century Sgt. William “Old [black] Shoe” Schumann.

  104. @empty
    Is the national anthem played at the Hand Egg games? as a non-american, that feels very strange, why is it played or sung?

    Replies: @Anon

    Dunno. Might have something to do with the first commissioner of the league bring a balls out Marine Medal of Honor winner.

  105. I used to listen to a lot of sports talk radio, ESPN radio, etc. While sports media types were previously apolitical or merely toed the PC line with qualified reservations, ESPN has gone full SJW in the past few years. The Michael Sam debacle was when it really became clear, as none of the ESPN radio/TV personalities had anything to say other than “This is really, really wonderful. I love gay homosexuals. I would be delighted to shower with gay homosexuals in my NFL locker room.” In fact, the commentary was so lock-step, I’d be surprised if sticking to pre-scripted bullet points enforcing The Narrative isn’t a condition of employment for ESPN sports “”journalists””.

    Making an example out of Colin Cowherd for noticing Dominican academic achievement showed that ESPN was willing to enforce adherence The Narrative at all costs.

    I don’t listen much anymore, as Dan Le Batard (Cowherd’s replacement) is the sports talk equivalent of “Ow! My Balls!” However, any time I surf through hoping for some local coverage, all talking heads are supportive of Kaepernick and “”opening up a national discussion””.

    I sincerely hope the lying or cognitive dissonance gives them all ulcers. Especially Mike & Mike.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Sports radio has the lowest bar of any entertainment product and nobody can get over it. Every show sucks. Especially on Espn. Cowherd is a huge cuck as well.

    Jim Rome was good 15 years ago if that means anything.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    , @Anonymous
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    How is it that taking liberal position will never lead to being ostracized, even when most of your audience probably thinks and votes conservative? The NFL and ESPN would collapse if white guys were more principled.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    , @pepperinmono
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    My own least favorite is Bob Costas with the face lift and plastic dyed hair. Did you see him interviewing Johnny Weir during Olympics. Hilarious! Bob thinks he is safe, but he will be the first to go once the barbarians are at the gate.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    , @The Anti-Gnostic
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    I listened to an astounding Colin Cowherd riff on the Wonderlic test about a year ago. I bet he reads iSteve.

  106. @Clyde
    @rod1963


    It’s really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.
    That was white Americana of yesteryear.
     
    I went to an academic public high school but we had shop classes. Matter of fact my father was in the sheet metal industry and finished off his working years as a public school shop teacher.
    I still remember my drafting class teacher. My woodworking classes.
    Another good thing is the male high school teachers were mostly WW2 and Korean war vets so we had a much stronger male presence than what kids get today in the poisonously feminized school systems (generalizing here of course)

    Replies: @ganderson

    “poisonously feminized school systems”

    Well put. I teach in a public school and you are correct!

  107. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    I knew a black lady doctor who used to be married to the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Lurker, @Brutusale, @Truth, @Triumph104, @MEH 0910

    Did she fix his ear?

  108. @Otto the P
    No, proximity to African Americans doesn't guarantee that bunch of extremely unlikely outcomes; what it does guarantee is awareness of their stupidiy, mendancity, venaity, childishness and impulsiveness, plus that tendency toward the old ultra-v and the fact that few of them are committed to team, at any deep level. This is typical: the liberal ardor for blackness is based on distance from it, idealization of it, and blindness to it. White NFL players know enough to keep their mouths shut and their thoughts private, to keep the big bucks and all the p---y coming. Liberals, including the ignorant Barrack Obama who has never lived among actual Negroes and knows nothing about them, don't. ANYBODY who has worked in a diversity-mandated office knows that most are sub-standard, that their work product must be redone quietly by white people, and that making a fuss about it is a good, fast way to the career graveyard.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Stealth

    Wow. That was very crisp.

  109. @AndrewR
    @WorkingClass

    I agree on the anthem and military stuff but they are trying to appeal to good old boys who are into flags and gratuitous military adventures and all that American stuff. The NFL has taken on a quasi-religious, quasi-nationalist aura in order to channel religious and nationalist feelings into an easily controlled domain. Our best and only hope is to convince the low-info white fans of the NFL that it is run and staffed by people with vastly different values.

    Replies: @David In TN

    Yes, the NFL has wrapped itself in the flag for decades, assuming this would appeal to their fan base. We see how hypocritical it was.

    • Replies: @Marcus
    @David In TN

    Hopefully this will wake some of the rubes up, but I think they'll view it as a "patriotism" issue rather than a race one.

    , @Desiderius
    @David In TN

    The post-American empire has belatedly discovered the need to recapture the flag, if not the country for which it stands.

    Replies: @David In TN

  110. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they're busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They're internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Crawfurdmuir, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Front toward enemy, @L Woods

    FYI, I read Gibbon last summer, tedious but extremely informative.

  111. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    Ryan has no excuse for being the cuck he became. He covered the entire career of Larry Bird, as pasty a Caucasian as has ever lived, who played the black man’s game, excelled to the point of domination, earned blacks’ respect on his own terms, backed down from nobody and had a visible friendship with the most popular black athlete in his sport.

    A somewhat defense is that he worked for American Pravda, the Boston Globe, where the leftist bent is all the way to broke.

  112. Black public figure admits to expecting “deference” from whites, news at 11.

    Deference toward blacks, I get a math error on that one.

    • Replies: @ogunsiron
    @Svigor

    At first you hear about this stuff happening in the education or social work dept at some obscure school. You read that at that particular school, white students were told in class and in the dorms that they had to treat black/POC students with deference, You figure that for sure the student body had revolted and that what you read was an example of the antiwhite academia just pushing things too far, too soon.

    Then you read about this deference stuff in a major publication and you realize that the idea was pushed in schools and planted into minds several years ago and *the seeds have succesfully sprouted*. A significant number of white* people now believe that it's their duty to treat random black "folks" with completely undeserved deference.

    * I understand we're dealing with a ((( white ))) here but I've been reading stuff from genuine white people lately who are internalizing that stuff. Incredible.

  113. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    Well said. I see Bob Ryan from time to time on Around the Horn and PTI. I like what he says but he does look old and pissed.

    Another reason sportswriters tend to go left is that everyone sees them as jock sniffers, so they try to prove themselves as “real” journalists by being more PC than the WaPo.

    • Replies: @Matra
    @Jim Don Bob

    Of all the American sportswriters who appear on the Toronto sports radio station I occasionally listen to online Bob Ryan was less negative towards Tim Tebow and Tim Thomas (the Bruins goalie who refused to meet Obama and who supported Chick-Fil-A). I happened to hear him last night saying he can't imagine what "African Americans" have to go through. That Ryan comes across as less belligerent and more reasonable than virtually all the mainstream sports writers/broadcasters shows how extreme they have become.

    Another reason sportswriters tend to go left is that everyone sees them as jock sniffers, so they try to prove themselves as “real” journalists by being more PC than the WaPo.

    Exactly. They suffer from status anxiety. They also seem to be obsessed with Hollywood and cable news. Sportswriters are heavily influenced by old media.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    , @Forbes
    @Jim Don Bob

    Well they are jock sniffers--making a living off the jocks. That's why more and more of the on-air TV commentators are former players or coaches. Some add insight--some. The jock sniffers are useless--verbally reporting what you're watching, with strings of exclamations fitting for a cheerleader.

    Around the Horn, PTI, and sports-talk radio are extreme wastes of time--though, no doubt entertaining inanity for some audiences. Still, would the world be worse off if it never suffered the likes of Bob Ryan and his ilk?

  114. ESPN has been intolerable since they started those meta, self-referential commercials 10 years ago. The social justice schtick has made them somehow worse.

    Luckily, they derive a huge amount of their money from cable customers and many young kids are cutting the cord. Most people in their early 20s do not get cable.

  115. @DCThrowback
    @Anonymous

    Except for "Stranger Things", that was amazing.

    Replies: @Danindc

    Stranger Things was average at best. You sound like a cuckball fan.

  116. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    I used to listen to a lot of sports talk radio, ESPN radio, etc. While sports media types were previously apolitical or merely toed the PC line with qualified reservations, ESPN has gone full SJW in the past few years. The Michael Sam debacle was when it really became clear, as none of the ESPN radio/TV personalities had anything to say other than "This is really, really wonderful. I love gay homosexuals. I would be delighted to shower with gay homosexuals in my NFL locker room." In fact, the commentary was so lock-step, I'd be surprised if sticking to pre-scripted bullet points enforcing The Narrative isn't a condition of employment for ESPN sports ""journalists"".

    Making an example out of Colin Cowherd for noticing Dominican academic achievement showed that ESPN was willing to enforce adherence The Narrative at all costs.

    I don't listen much anymore, as Dan Le Batard (Cowherd's replacement) is the sports talk equivalent of "Ow! My Balls!" However, any time I surf through hoping for some local coverage, all talking heads are supportive of Kaepernick and ""opening up a national discussion"".

    I sincerely hope the lying or cognitive dissonance gives them all ulcers. Especially Mike & Mike.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Anonymous, @pepperinmono, @The Anti-Gnostic

    Sports radio has the lowest bar of any entertainment product and nobody can get over it. Every show sucks. Especially on Espn. Cowherd is a huge cuck as well.

    Jim Rome was good 15 years ago if that means anything.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Danindc

    Yeah, Jim Rome had one hell of a good run.

    Cowherd.... He suffered from Howard Stern Syndrome.

    Pre-Divorce: Witty, self-depreciating and relatable (his best work is found here)
    Post-Divorce: Kind of a dick (phoning it in)

  117. My bad, Jewish academic, not black public figure. Same diff, really.

  118. You could be learning a language, getting exercise, reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, maintaining your home, picking up a new skill, taking a free online course, working a few extra hours at your trade or profession.

    Learning to put down man-sized targets at 200 yds…

    The league should crack down hard on protesting players. Protest on your own time or get fired. The league should also get the flag, the pledge and the military OUT of the game. It’s supposed to be about football and money.

    The flag, the pledge, and the military are there because they make the League money. The protesting is probably costing them money, long-term. Bench-riding Kaepernick is definitely in the red column.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    @Svigor

    In fact, DoD apparently pays the NFL to put on the flag waving theater act, at least according to what I've overheard.

  119. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:

    With a black majority in the NFL, did anyone really not see this coming? Blacks protesting their poor downtroddeness and a Jew giving voice to their alleged suffering? Does this not fit the Template?

    And as in everything else it reforms, “the touch that turns everything to shit” will destroy the NFL. This is what I meant when I commented that blacks and Jews destroy everything they touch whether it be neighborhoods, financial markets, the Soviet Union or American social concord. Why is that?

    I, personally, can’t stand incompetence. Of blacks I expect little else, they are perennial misfits. My bone to pick with Jews is not with their intelligence or any of their other alleged inadequacies, but with their nincompoopery. They ruin everything they succeed in. Some people see this as deliberate wrecking but I give them the benefit of the doubt and presume it is from some terrible blind spot in the middle of their field of vision.

    They are fatally flawed in the Greek Tragedy sense. Give them the lead role and they, through arrogance and excessive self regard, blunder badly. Misfortune follows and they stumble about on stage, crying out to the audience, Gods and Chorus for pity and for guidance in perceiving where to turn, what to do next.

    Because they can’t distance themselves from themselves, can’t hold a mirror up to themselves or fly above themselves and regard themselves impersonally from a great height, they can’t see that it is their very character with its strengths which is the cause of their own misfortune.

    It is relevant in this context to note that the image or icon of a transcendent Bird plays little role in Jewish mythology (other than Noah’s raven). Virtually every civilization worshiped a bird of one sort or another as a symbol of transcendent foresight. For the Greeks, augury was the seer’s art of reading the future as interpreted in the flight of cranes and hawks. From it’s great heights, the bird sees the big picture whereas for man, what lies beyond the next turn in the road is hidden and so the man who is deficient in transcendental oversight must try to foretell his future by working out the chain of events implicit in the unfolding of his own character in the world. He must, “Know Thyself”.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Anonymous

    Well put.

  120. @Spmoore8
    @Anonymous

    I did all that. But if all they want to do is talk about sports, you either share it with them, or you don't.

    It's not just kids, either. It's siblings, cousins, friends, co-workers, etc. The content of interpersonal interactions is irrelevant. What you don't want is people gaping in silence when you get on your hobby horse.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Lead them.

  121. @whorefinder
    Paul Kersey has said it best: it's time to stop watching American professional sports. They are an opiate of the masses and have been ruined by diversity/lefty politics.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @L Woods, @No_0ne

    None of my shooting and fighting (martial arts) friends follow sports other than maybe MMA. These are Alpha dudes to the max. More and more I associate sports watching with extreme feminine aspects. In other words white pu–ies aka cucks.

  122. @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    Bowling used to be that sport: participatory, and not that strenuous.
    Putt putt golf and Skee-Ball were up there too.

    Now, there's Topgolf, which is a sort of massive pinball machine of golf: you stand on a balcony and whack balls into these circular scoring pits.

    Me, I like shooting and archery.

    And, of course, there's always music, playing in a band. That'll keep you busy.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius

    Playing music with a group – terrific suggestion.

  123. @PiltdownMan
    @rod1963

    A few years ago, my middle school child complained about how there were fewer and fewer extracurricular activities in her school where students could "build things and use my hands to make stuff." I, and a couple of like-minded older parents, brought it up at the PTA meeting, and we suggested reinstating some of activities that had quietly dropped out of the offerings in the previous decade, including gardening, woodworking, sewing and needlework and so on.

    The dead-eyed response we got from most of the assembled parents, mostly thirty and youngish forty somethings, was unnerving. Then somebody else brightly suggested that we consider "educating our dear ones for the times" and talked about a "Money and Investing for Kids" activity that a private school she knew about happened to offer. A lively and enthusiastic discussion followed.

    There is no hope.

    Replies: @PenskeFile

    There has been a huge surge of so-called “Maker” activities for youth in recent years. Much of this is related to robotics, home automation and drones and is tied to 3D printing. Libs of course hate the term “Maker” as it was used by Ayn Rand in Atlas Shrugged.

    The guys at Myth Busters certainly helped get this going as they showed off their fabrication facilities in very interesting ways.

    Tech Shop offers a reasonably cost-effective way to get access to some nice equipment as well. http://www.techshop.ws/

    Look outside your school to some community organizations if your fellow parents are not willing to get on board and prefer to groom their kids for futures as Lords of Finance

  124. I guess this is Vox’s way of compensating for their own white and (((white)))-ness.

  125. If a player refuses to stand, and immediately quits football and forfeits his NFL salary to work for the small wages for “social change,” then they would get my respect. So far this has not happened, and I do not expect it to happen. These guys are drama queens.

  126. @Jefferson
    @Otto the P

    "Liberals, including the ignorant Barrack Obama who has never lived among actual Negroes"

    Jim Goad a member of the Alt-Right likes to brag that he lives among way more Blacks than Barack Hussein Obama ever has. Jim Goad lives in Stone Mountain, Georgia which is a whopping 75% Black. Hussein grew up in Honolulu which is only a measly 1% Black.

    Barack Hussein Obama the Mulatto limousine liberal elitist would not be caught dead moving to 75% Black Stone Mountain. Once he leaves The White House he has a home waiting for him in an affluent White DC suburb.

    Replies: @SMK, @IA

    Why would any sane white person, much less an “alt-rightist,” live in a city or town that is 75% black if he’s free and able to live in a city or suburb that is 80-90% white? And “brag” about this choice? Why -to prove he’s not a “racist”? Is he a masochist with a desire to be hated, harassed, assaulted, mugged, and worse? Perhaps his choice to live in such a place is explained by his grotesquely irrational, obsessive, virulent, and demented hatred of white females.

    • Replies: @Jefferson
    @SMK

    "Why would any sane white person, much less an “alt-rightist,” live in a city or town that is 75% black if he’s free and able to live in a city or suburb that is 80-90% white? And “brag” about this choice?"

    He was bragging to point out the hypocrisy of Barack Hussein Obama not wanting to live in areas where his sons are in the majority. Barack says diversity is our strength, but he does not believe this in his personal life. Barack talks the talk while Jim walks the walk.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    , @Stealth
    @SMK

    If I'm not mistaken, Jim Goad isn't a man of exceptional means. I think he once said he hasn't had a car less than a decade old for a long time.

  127. @David In TN
    @AndrewR

    Yes, the NFL has wrapped itself in the flag for decades, assuming this would appeal to their fan base. We see how hypocritical it was.

    Replies: @Marcus, @Desiderius

    Hopefully this will wake some of the rubes up, but I think they’ll view it as a “patriotism” issue rather than a race one.

  128. @ic1000
    @bomag

    As far as its arguments, Leonard's long-winded essay is throw-spaghetti-at-the-refrigerator-and-see-what-sticks incoherent. But the tl;dr version is clear: in the second paragraph he celebrates Kaepernick’s stance -- “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."

    This is a white humanities professor's dumbed-down application of Genius T. Coates' line of reasoning in Between The World And Me. Black people are awesomely wonderful. Racism, Jim Crow, Microaggressions. White privilege. White people are loathsome, institutions built by whites are hateful. Whitey gonna Reap The Whirlwind. Notwithstanding that, I like hanging with goodwhites, who can be saved, you can be Elected upon my say-so.

    It's true that Professor Leonard is guilty of Not Getting The Joke, even though Steve's short excerpt of Leonard's writing is pretty damn funny. But we shouldn't hold it against him: it's the Current Year. An academician's career and self-respect hinges on zie ability to follow, and with enthusiasm.

    Replies: @bomag

    It’s true that Professor Leonard is guilty of Not Getting The Joke…

    The ironic subtexts here are so rich. Not just the cloistered professor lecturing us on racial matters, but the implicit conclusion that only White people are capable of changing; only they are worth discussing, Blacks are just a given and there is no use considering their pathologies. Even the moniker “Black Lives Matter” is an admission that most people have come to the opposite conclusion, so we need one of these modern marketing campaigns to sell people something they don’t want or need.

  129. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    I used to listen to a lot of sports talk radio, ESPN radio, etc. While sports media types were previously apolitical or merely toed the PC line with qualified reservations, ESPN has gone full SJW in the past few years. The Michael Sam debacle was when it really became clear, as none of the ESPN radio/TV personalities had anything to say other than "This is really, really wonderful. I love gay homosexuals. I would be delighted to shower with gay homosexuals in my NFL locker room." In fact, the commentary was so lock-step, I'd be surprised if sticking to pre-scripted bullet points enforcing The Narrative isn't a condition of employment for ESPN sports ""journalists"".

    Making an example out of Colin Cowherd for noticing Dominican academic achievement showed that ESPN was willing to enforce adherence The Narrative at all costs.

    I don't listen much anymore, as Dan Le Batard (Cowherd's replacement) is the sports talk equivalent of "Ow! My Balls!" However, any time I surf through hoping for some local coverage, all talking heads are supportive of Kaepernick and ""opening up a national discussion"".

    I sincerely hope the lying or cognitive dissonance gives them all ulcers. Especially Mike & Mike.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Anonymous, @pepperinmono, @The Anti-Gnostic

    How is it that taking liberal position will never lead to being ostracized, even when most of your audience probably thinks and votes conservative? The NFL and ESPN would collapse if white guys were more principled.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Anonymous

    ESPN is so pozzed that it's quickly becoming unwatchable for average cracker-men. Sometimes I'll hit the gym at lunch time and pass by the TVs.

    Today as a random sample:
    ESPN: SportsCenter w/ Cari Champion (black, female)
    ESPN 2: His & Hers w/ Michael Smith (black, male) and Jemele Hill (black female)

    Topic of discussion:
    -Kaepernick, Kaepernick and more Kaepernick
    -NCAA removing various championship tournaments from North Carolina because those reactionary Neanderthals insist that only women use the women's locker rooms.
    -Adam Jones lamenting how MLB doesn't encourage Kaepernick-like protests because "baseball is a white man's sport".

    The "30 for 30" documentaries started out kinda awesomely a few years ago, but now every other episode is LGBTQ or Grrrl Power themed.

    As fate would have it, ESPN has lost 3.2 million subscribers over the past year.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2015/07/12/losing-millions-of-subscribers-espn-now-facing-tough-decisions/#24f4440b4df4

    Let it burn.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  130. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @TangoMan
    @Chrisnonymous

    The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family

    How does a screenwriter convey a talented tenth Black in the present year? Every Black is supremely talented or is a Magic Negro. With all of the AA and quota hiring rampant in society, there are well-to-do Blacks all over the place and this ruins the phenomenon of talented tenth rising on merit and it being self-evidently true that the well-to-do Black has risen to his station in life by his talents.

    Justice Thomas is bitter about Affirmative Action Stigma. This stigma erases the concept of talented tenth from the public consciousness because there is no way to find them in the high noise-low signal environment created by these artificial uplift programs.

    Would the audience even know what a talented tenth family is?

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Anonymous

    How does a screenwriter convey a talented tenth Black in the present year? Every Black is supremely talented or is a Magic Negro. With all of the AA and quota hiring rampant in society, there are well-to-do Blacks all over the place and this ruins the phenomenon of talented tenth rising on merit and it being self-evidently true that the well-to-do Black has risen to his station in life by his talents.

    A hippyish light-skinned libertarian Mt. Holyoke grad rather than an Ivy/Stanford grad.

  131. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @Percy Gryce
    @The Practical Conservative

    Two things I've tried recently: chess and fencing.

    (1) Chess: the classic game of strategy and cerebration. I realized that I don't have the patience to really study it, but I have learned a few things and I think I could, if I concentrated, do better than look completely foolish against most opponents.

    (2) Fencing: the traditional Western martial art. It's good cardio--also called by some the physical equivalent of chess. It also connects us with a glorious Western tradition of swordplay and honorable combat (if only in an oblique and highly refined way).

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Two things I’ve tried recently: chess and fencing.

    (1) Chess: the classic game of strategy and cerebration. I realized that I don’t have the patience to really study it, but I have learned a few things and I think I could, if I concentrated, do better than look completely foolish against most opponents.

    I don’t want to pursue and practice an activity where an off-the-shelf computer program can easily beat the best human being who has spent 15k hours studying and practicing this game.

  132. @George
    @WorkingClass

    Kaepernick Jersey Sales Jump To No. 1 In The NFL

    Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/09/07/kaepernick-jersey-sales-jump-to-no-1-in-the-nfl/#ixzz4K6e1ViuC

    Replies: @Devops Dad, @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Forbes

    How many jerseys were sold to get to #1? 20? 30?

    $150 to own a bench-sitting QB’s jersey. That’s some cuck.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Forbes

    Kids in the ghetto are buying those things. Same morons that buy Jordan's sneakers.

    Replies: @Forbes

  133. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    And I’m guessing that a guy who calls himself “whorefinder” will die with a retinue of attendants?

  134. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    I knew a black lady doctor who used to be married to the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Lurker, @Brutusale, @Truth, @Triumph104, @MEH 0910

    Holy had good taste

  135. Anonymous • Disclaimer says:
    @E. Rekshun
    @rod1963

    Good post!

    Popular Mechanics

    Yes. I just renewed my $15 annual subscription to Popular Mechanics, and it offered two additional free subscriptions for two friends! It's excellent! On the other hand, I recently let my ESPN Magazine subscription expire - it was nothing but black athlete worship and anti-White criticism. Sports Illustrated is getting just as bad.

    And I worked at Radio Shack during college.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill Jones

    Remember The Amateur Scientist in the Scientific American?

    https://ia802701.us.archive.org/11/items/TheAmateurScientist/Stong-TheAmateurScientist.pdf

    A homemade atom smasher (“for less than the cost of set of golf clubs”). Bathtub aerodynamics (“what you can learn from ‘flying’ model airplanes in water”). Amateur rocketry (“detailed instructions for building two research rockets”) . An inexpensive x-ray machine (“with old radio tubes and copper wire”). Homemade electrostatic generators (build 100k volt generator for under $5). The “Hilsch” vortex tube (a simple device which can deliver -70 degrees F air). How to make the flow of air visible (for $3 and a camera and vacuum cleaner)

  136. @Clifford Brown
    David J. Leonard is Associate Professor and Chair in the Department of Critical Culture, Gender and Race Studies at Washington State University, Pullman.

    According to Wikipedia, Pullman, Washington is 2.3% African-American.

    https://davidjleonard.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/davidleonard1.jpg

    ]Jimmy The Greek also discussed the need for Black coaches in football. Did not work out so well for him.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzB7IsmOegE

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Al Campanis Racist Remarks on Nightline (April 6, 1987):

  137. @SPMoore8
    I thought the NFL was more like 75% black.

    I think the problem is that professional sports has become sorted out racially, with whites being overwhelmingly the financial support, while POC's are, in most sports, the main athletic stock.

    So when Kaepernick and other Players of Color disrespect the Anthem, etc., especially over something like #BLM, they are saying: "We are black and opposed to the status quo" which reminds the audience that they are mostly white, and basically just want to be entertained with a contest that underlines their sense of civic pride.

    That's bound to lead to some polarization. Especially when a number of the protesters are essentially morons and make comments on social media (like, "taking down the criminal justice system") which are hyperbolic, histrionic, and patently ridiculous.

    Thus politicizing sporting events is racially polarizing. Disrespecting this country and the sense of community that sporting events are supposed to represent is a huge turnoff to a lot of people in this country.

    Replies: @Forbes

    As I’ve been saying for years now, the sporting event–game, match, race, whatever–is of secondary importance to the entertainment media programming foisted on the public.

    The event is a place holder around which advertising sponsorships are sold to finance the product–players’ and league officials’ salaries, and team owner returns. Not to mention all the on-air talking heads making 6-and 7-figure incomes for working half a year for following a child’s game.

    Think about it–a 60 minute football game that has less than 15 minutes of actual play takes nearly 3-1/2 hours to complete.

  138. @Brutusale
    @whorefinder

    Ryan still isn't as pitiful as Dan Shaughnessy, or the curly-haired bitch, as the immortal Carl Everett once called him.

    I'll take a knowledgeable Drunk Cynic like Will McDonough any day.

    It's amazing to read Leonard's dreck. If there was ever a privileged class, it's the one that ends up in the NFL. They've had their butts kissed and the way smoothed since they were 10-year old Pop Warner players.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Ryan still isn’t as pitiful as Dan Shaughnessy, or the curly-haired bitch, as the immortal Carl Everett once called him.

    After your comment I checked out Dan Shaughnessy. Holy smokes, he looks he could be that clown scaring kids in NC.

  139. @Desiderius

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college
     
    The way they've been acting lately, I'm beginning to think they were hall monitors and student government vice-presidents.

    Replies: @Forbes

    I must be old. In my day student gov’t VPs were even more useless than waterboys and timekeepers.

  140. “Racism” seems like witchcraft from the Middle Ages. No one practices it in open , but it is out there somewhere. And the educated elites never practice it, only the poor bumpkins who can’t defend themselves.

  141. Vox = The face of evil in this world.

  142. I suspect the lack of deference by the white players destroys this writer’s well thought out fantasy of going back to high school and college as a black athlete rather than the nerd he likely was.

  143. @Former Darfur
    @Anonymous

    Bowling used to be that sport: participatory, and not that strenuous.
    Putt putt golf and Skee-Ball were up there too.

    Now, there's Topgolf, which is a sort of massive pinball machine of golf: you stand on a balcony and whack balls into these circular scoring pits.

    Me, I like shooting and archery.

    And, of course, there's always music, playing in a band. That'll keep you busy.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Desiderius

    Putt putt golf

    As a teenager, I used to play in weekly Putt-Putt tournaments with 40-50 people (mostly men) ages 12-72. We even had a group that would stay after the course closed and play for high stakes in the ambient light. Sadly, it has mostly died off.

  144. @David In TN
    @AndrewR

    Yes, the NFL has wrapped itself in the flag for decades, assuming this would appeal to their fan base. We see how hypocritical it was.

    Replies: @Marcus, @Desiderius

    The post-American empire has belatedly discovered the need to recapture the flag, if not the country for which it stands.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Desiderius

    Another point. These NFL morons "exercising their rights" as per usual, have no sense of irony.

    If this is such a rotten, evil, racist country, why are they allowed the "right" to spit on the flag and those who died for it? Why dies "Racist America" permit them to protest? Wouldn't they be penalized for doing so if America was what they say it is?

    They and their supporters are too stupid to grasp this truth.

    Replies: @L Woods

  145. @rod1963
    @The Practical Conservative

    Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary.

    That said, prior to the elevation of pro-sports into what amounts to a secular religion for the Helots by the establishment. Men used to have other methods of socializing including clubs like the Lions, Moose, Elks, Eagle or church sponsored activities. Which BTW are much more emotionally fulfilling than those idiotic beer sodden reveries that make up socializing at sporting events).

    Of course men had hobbies as well for personal enjoyment. From the 30's onwards up until the late 90's men had magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics that were loaded with how-to articles for the home craftsman or hobbyist. Sadly they started dying out at the same time schools removed shop classes for their students(which ensured no future generations of students would find out working with their hands can be fun and useful) and the computer revolution finished them off by reducing them to worthless glossies.

    You know at one time almost every town had a Tandy's Leatherworking outlet(it later became Tandy/RadioShack). Imagine that, leather crafts were that popular at one time.

    Oh yeah, model building was big as well.

    It's really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.

    That was white Americana of yesteryear.

    Replies: @Clyde, @PiltdownMan, @E. Rekshun, @Sunbeam, @ben tillman

    “Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary.”

    Yeah. There is another related angle to this whole thing though.

    My younger relatives have no link or real interest in sports of any sort. They didn’t play them in high school, didn’t really bother to attend games either.

    They have no knowledge or interest in basketball, football, baseball, soccer, etc. And the members of their circle of friends don’t seem to have any interest in any of it either.

    Just saying that aside from the whole ESPN bundled cable package thing, the pro sports leagues in this country are going to have a heck of a problem with exactly who is going to be their viewerbase in 20 years.

    Because to my eyes at least they have a heck of a problem in that regard coming down the pike, let alone the cord cutting thing.

    • Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...
    @Sunbeam

    Agreed. There are no more pickup games among white boys anymore. If you are not in competitive leagues by 9 or 10 there are very limited chances to play organized sports past the above ages. So these kids have no interest in "team" sports.

    , @Jim Don Bob
    @Sunbeam

    And the NFL will have a heck of a time getting players as parents increasingly keep their kids out of Pop Warner football. There have even been a few pros (some black) who have quit while still active because they didn't want to end up like Junior Seau.

  146. @Kylie
    From the linked article: "Proximity to African Americans doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference..."

    I have no doubt Leonard and his ilk have an even more draconian Plan B.

    Replies: @Louis Renault, @Dennis Dale

    deference

    Yes, Americans should kneel in submission.

  147. @anon930
    https://ccgrs.wsu.edu/faculty-staff/david-j-leonard/

    Dr. David J. Leonard
    Professor
    Ph.D., University of California, Berkeley

    He is the author of Screens Fade to Black: Contemporary African American Cinema and coeditor of Criminalized and Commodified: New Racism and African Americans in Contemporary Sports (Rowman and Littlefield). He is author of After Artest: The NBA and the Assault on Blackness (SUNY Press) as well as several other works. Leonard is a regular contributor to NewBlackMan, layupline, Feminist Wire, and Urban Cusp. He is a past contributor to Ebony, Slam, and Racialicious as well as a past contributor to Loop21, The Nation, and The Starting Five. He blogs at No Tsuris. Follow him on Twitter @drdavidjleonard.
     

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @Louis Renault

    Pullman, WA is less than 3% black.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pullman,_Washington#Demographics

    Give him credit, he knows how to make money trolling the internet.

  148. @5371
    African genius (I know, redundant) says Trump and Pootin are poisoning Her:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2016/09/12/the-man-who-discovered-cte-thinks-hillary-clinton-may-have-been-poisoned/

    Replies: @Jefferson, @res

    African genius (I know, redundant) says Trump and Pootin are poisoning Her:

    And Ctrl-F “conspir” gives one hit in the comments.

    Contrast that to the WaPo (same paper) article recently discussed on iSteve which alleges a conspiracy theory and backtracked less than a week later:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/09/06/the-questions-about-hillary-clintons-health-are-absurd/

    We truly have gone through the looking glass.

  149. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    I knew a black lady doctor who used to be married to the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Lurker, @Brutusale, @Truth, @Triumph104, @MEH 0910

    Both Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were married to physicians, which shows the level of desperation of even highly educated black women.

    Actor and martial artist Michael Jai White was also married to a physician. She asked him to marry her and she paid all the bills including his acting lessons. Years after he divorced her, he wrote an open letter to all of his exes confessing that until his current relationship, he had no idea why his exes wanted to be close to him.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/15/michael-jai-white-facebook-apology-ex-girlfriends_n_7073324.html

    • Replies: @whorefinder
    @Triumph104

    The level of "black lady doctors" marrying lower-IQ tough guys seems to be a combination of things:

    (1) These affirmative action doctors are not as smart as the average doctor. (Q:"What do they call the person who finishes last in the medical school class? A: Doctor.")

    (2) Celebrity blinds a lot of people, men and women, to a mate's potential problems. The cliche about the foolish old rich man going gaga over some pretty young blond actress who needs his money didn't come from nowhere. Women, too, throw themselves at singers and actors because of one hit movie or one hit song.

    (3) Florence Nightingale syndrome (all three of these guys got injured regularly, thanks to their professions--Jai White was a martial artist before acting)

    (4) Black worship of the thug culture (all three of these guys are bruisers)

    (5) Natural West-African feral nature showing through, where the women provide for the delinquent men.

    (6) Finally, Strong Black Woman (SBW) syndrome, a distinctlyAmerican problem. SBW's are constantly bitching about how there "are no good black men" around, all the while having exacting standards for the black men they want ("thug in the streets/playa in the sheets/sophisticated man of means") that no man could ever meet.

    Decent black guys complain about SBW's all the time, and often say they gave up dating them because of this. And SBWs eventually admit that non-black men won't have touch them with a ten-foot pole. In desperation, SBWs marry down to a thug or a no-good "playa", figuring they can fix him or at least get something out of life. Or they find some milquetoast brother that they hound into misery because he's not some rap-video-image of perfection (See Michelle Obama, miserable with Barry O., the freakin' president).

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    , @Truth
    @Triumph104

    Yeah, nothing signals desperation in a woman like marrying a wealthy, young,muscular, sought-after, internationally-famous, professional athlete

    Replies: @Triumph104

  150. @Stogumber
    Proximity to White Americans hasn’t guaranteed understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference - at least not in case of David Leonard.

    Replies: @kaganovitch, @ben tillman

    Proximity to White Americans hasn’t guaranteed understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference – at least not in case of David Leonard.

    Nicely done!

  151. @kaganovitch
    @Stogumber

    As I mentioned earlier he Is a white american.

    Replies: @dan hayes, @ben tillman

    As I mentioned earlier he Is a white american.

    No, he’s pretending to be a white American. He identifies with another tribe.

  152. @rod1963
    @The Practical Conservative

    Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary.

    That said, prior to the elevation of pro-sports into what amounts to a secular religion for the Helots by the establishment. Men used to have other methods of socializing including clubs like the Lions, Moose, Elks, Eagle or church sponsored activities. Which BTW are much more emotionally fulfilling than those idiotic beer sodden reveries that make up socializing at sporting events).

    Of course men had hobbies as well for personal enjoyment. From the 30's onwards up until the late 90's men had magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics that were loaded with how-to articles for the home craftsman or hobbyist. Sadly they started dying out at the same time schools removed shop classes for their students(which ensured no future generations of students would find out working with their hands can be fun and useful) and the computer revolution finished them off by reducing them to worthless glossies.

    You know at one time almost every town had a Tandy's Leatherworking outlet(it later became Tandy/RadioShack). Imagine that, leather crafts were that popular at one time.

    Oh yeah, model building was big as well.

    It's really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.

    That was white Americana of yesteryear.

    Replies: @Clyde, @PiltdownMan, @E. Rekshun, @Sunbeam, @ben tillman

    It’s really sad, a boy could graduate high school and know how to run a arc or oxyacetylene welder, run a lathe, work sheet metal, do basic wood working and auto repair. This laid the foundation for boys taking up hobbies later in life.

    This kind of mechanical knowledge laid the foundation for more than that: It, plus an egalitarian community, laid the foundation for the semiconductor revolution:

    http://isteve.blogspot.com/2010/07/how-to-get-into-college.html

    Re. snobbery, Ivy League, etc.: why the non-snobby Yankee Congregationalists of Grinnell, Iowa started the semiconductor revolution, and why the snobby Yankees of the East totally missed it.

    Tom Wolfe, “The Tinkerings of Robert Noyce” [dead link]

    “Not having your own house didn’t carry the social onus in Grinnell that it did in the East. There was no upper crust in Grinnell. There were no top people who kept the social score in such matters. Congregationalists rejected the idea of a social hierarchy as fiercely as they did the idea of a religious hierarchy.”

    “Corporations in the East adopted a feudal approach to organization, without even being aware of it. There were kings and lords, and there were vassals, soldiers, yeomen, and serfs, with layers of protocol and perquisites, such as the car and driver, to symbolize superiority and establish the boundary lines.”

    “Robert Noyce and His Congregation”
    http://www.forbes.com/asap/1997/0825/102_print.html

  153. @Spmoore8
    @BenKenobi

    If you haven't read Tom Wolfe's little book on this, do so now. Funny as hell.

    Regular black people do not dig patronizing civil rights chic. But they probably will want to talk about sports. Like it or not, it's the coin of the realm.

    Replies: @pepperinmono

    Tom Wolfe also has hilarious and spot on stuff about black and white interrelationships in basketball in I Am Charlotte Simmons.
    Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports.
    One has to get over this if one is white and expects to excel.
    Not everyone can or wants to .
    I once played this pretty good chess player black dude.
    For him it was “street chess”.
    He would glare at me , mumble trash talk, slam moved pieces hard on the table “in your face” style.
    Just like playing basketball with them.
    It was unnerving at first.
    All athletes/competitors do this to a certain extent, but blacks have it down to a science.
    If they detect it bothers you , it can be relentless.

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @pepperinmono


    Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports.
     
    In sports?

    This is the principle dynamic of our time.

    They're not just trying, they've run the table.

    Replies: @David In TN

  154. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    By talking amongst ourselves on Twitter, our eyes are being opened. We are learning.

    By posting on Twitter, we are also influencing the public discourse. Our voices are being heard, if not listened to. We are changing to course of history.

    Netflix is a different animal. I advocate people avoid it.

    Replies: @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Ok, I think you have an inflated sense of your own importance, but at least you’re being honest and admitting that while you’re not watching sports, you’re not exactly spending your time learning to play the violin or to weld or whatever.

    • Replies: @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Who said I was referring only to myself? (My post refers to “we”)

    Who said I don’t have activities other than Twitter engagement?

    You seem very defensive about this.

  155. @Triumph104
    @Steve Sailer

    Both Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were married to physicians, which shows the level of desperation of even highly educated black women.

    Actor and martial artist Michael Jai White was also married to a physician. She asked him to marry her and she paid all the bills including his acting lessons. Years after he divorced her, he wrote an open letter to all of his exes confessing that until his current relationship, he had no idea why his exes wanted to be close to him.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/15/michael-jai-white-facebook-apology-ex-girlfriends_n_7073324.html

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Truth

    The level of “black lady doctors” marrying lower-IQ tough guys seems to be a combination of things:

    (1) These affirmative action doctors are not as smart as the average doctor. (Q:”What do they call the person who finishes last in the medical school class? A: Doctor.”)

    (2) Celebrity blinds a lot of people, men and women, to a mate’s potential problems. The cliche about the foolish old rich man going gaga over some pretty young blond actress who needs his money didn’t come from nowhere. Women, too, throw themselves at singers and actors because of one hit movie or one hit song.

    (3) Florence Nightingale syndrome (all three of these guys got injured regularly, thanks to their professions–Jai White was a martial artist before acting)

    (4) Black worship of the thug culture (all three of these guys are bruisers)

    (5) Natural West-African feral nature showing through, where the women provide for the delinquent men.

    (6) Finally, Strong Black Woman (SBW) syndrome, a distinctlyAmerican problem. SBW’s are constantly bitching about how there “are no good black men” around, all the while having exacting standards for the black men they want (“thug in the streets/playa in the sheets/sophisticated man of means”) that no man could ever meet.

    Decent black guys complain about SBW’s all the time, and often say they gave up dating them because of this. And SBWs eventually admit that non-black men won’t have touch them with a ten-foot pole. In desperation, SBWs marry down to a thug or a no-good “playa”, figuring they can fix him or at least get something out of life. Or they find some milquetoast brother that they hound into misery because he’s not some rap-video-image of perfection (See Michelle Obama, miserable with Barry O., the freakin’ president).

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @whorefinder

    Whorefinder, you have been on fire lately. Maybe you should give HRC some of the drugs you've been taking. ;-)

  156. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    I used to listen to a lot of sports talk radio, ESPN radio, etc. While sports media types were previously apolitical or merely toed the PC line with qualified reservations, ESPN has gone full SJW in the past few years. The Michael Sam debacle was when it really became clear, as none of the ESPN radio/TV personalities had anything to say other than "This is really, really wonderful. I love gay homosexuals. I would be delighted to shower with gay homosexuals in my NFL locker room." In fact, the commentary was so lock-step, I'd be surprised if sticking to pre-scripted bullet points enforcing The Narrative isn't a condition of employment for ESPN sports ""journalists"".

    Making an example out of Colin Cowherd for noticing Dominican academic achievement showed that ESPN was willing to enforce adherence The Narrative at all costs.

    I don't listen much anymore, as Dan Le Batard (Cowherd's replacement) is the sports talk equivalent of "Ow! My Balls!" However, any time I surf through hoping for some local coverage, all talking heads are supportive of Kaepernick and ""opening up a national discussion"".

    I sincerely hope the lying or cognitive dissonance gives them all ulcers. Especially Mike & Mike.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Anonymous, @pepperinmono, @The Anti-Gnostic

    My own least favorite is Bob Costas with the face lift and plastic dyed hair. Did you see him interviewing Johnny Weir during Olympics. Hilarious! Bob thinks he is safe, but he will be the first to go once the barbarians are at the gate.

    • Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @pepperinmono

    Bob Costas..... the epitome of "backpfeifengesicht".

  157. @whorefinder
    Paul Kersey has said it best: it's time to stop watching American professional sports. They are an opiate of the masses and have been ruined by diversity/lefty politics.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @L Woods, @No_0ne

    Honestly, the public devotion to spectator sports and the meatheads that play them was always an idiocratic opiate, even before SJWism took it to full retard status.

    • Agree: Forbes
  158. @Chrisnonymous
    @whorefinder


    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team,
     
    Somebody should do a re-make of the Redford movie "The Natural", but about a young black NFL quarterback. The twist? The woman, rather than being a plant, is an upper-crust black woman from a talented tenth family who marries for the celebrity and money of being a black QB but falls for the coach's white, younger son, who is educated and well-behaved.

    It would combine a leftist narrative about race with under the radar cultural obsessions like jungle fever and cougars. Plus, it would flatter black women. Throw in some steamy bedroom scenes and suggestive locker room scenes. I predict a hit.

    Replies: @Steve Sailer, @TangoMan, @Cloudbuster

    Black woman with a white man? That’s statistically pretty uncommon. Black men and white men prefer white and asian women. Is this women supposed to be some sort of Magic Negress?

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Cloudbuster

    Uncommon in the real world, but if you watch any television (or movies)--and thankfully, I watch little--white guys are regularly paired up with black women. Part of the propaganda to convince the public of its 'normalcy.'

  159. @Jefferson
    @Otto the P

    "Liberals, including the ignorant Barrack Obama who has never lived among actual Negroes"

    Jim Goad a member of the Alt-Right likes to brag that he lives among way more Blacks than Barack Hussein Obama ever has. Jim Goad lives in Stone Mountain, Georgia which is a whopping 75% Black. Hussein grew up in Honolulu which is only a measly 1% Black.

    Barack Hussein Obama the Mulatto limousine liberal elitist would not be caught dead moving to 75% Black Stone Mountain. Once he leaves The White House he has a home waiting for him in an affluent White DC suburb.

    Replies: @SMK, @IA

    Once he leaves The White House he has a home waiting for him in an affluent White DC suburb.

    Obama’s moving to Kalorama, an embassy enclave near Dupont Circle.

  160. @Desiderius
    @David In TN

    The post-American empire has belatedly discovered the need to recapture the flag, if not the country for which it stands.

    Replies: @David In TN

    Another point. These NFL morons “exercising their rights” as per usual, have no sense of irony.

    If this is such a rotten, evil, racist country, why are they allowed the “right” to spit on the flag and those who died for it? Why dies “Racist America” permit them to protest? Wouldn’t they be penalized for doing so if America was what they say it is?

    They and their supporters are too stupid to grasp this truth.

    • Replies: @L Woods
    @David In TN

    That is my true source of loathing for these cretins. Their lack of fealty to the Stars and Stripes per se doesn't bother me. Honestly, I actually don't necessarily blame black Americans for not identifying with the United States and its historical symbols. The country was not, indeed, founded with their inclusion in mind. It's their parroting of inane BLM/SJW boilerplate that earns me contempt.

    It seems only a matter of time before the baby is stretched in two and both major political coalitions no longer identify with the U.S. That will be an interesting day indeed.

  161. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    By talking amongst ourselves on Twitter, our eyes are being opened. We are learning.

    By posting on Twitter, we are also influencing the public discourse. Our voices are being heard, if not listened to. We are changing to course of history.

    Netflix is a different animal. I advocate people avoid it.

    Replies: @DCThrowback, @Anonymous, @Anonymous

    Who said I was referring only to myself? (My post refers to “we”)

    Who said I don’t have activities other than Twitter engagement?

    You seem very defensive about this.

  162. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Ok, I think you have an inflated sense of your own importance, but at least you're being honest and admitting that while you're not watching sports, you're not exactly spending your time learning to play the violin or to weld or whatever.

    Replies: @Anonymous

    Who said I was referring only to myself? (My post refers to “we”)

    Who said I don’t have activities other than Twitter engagement?

    You seem very defensive about this.

  163. @Dave Pinsen
    I hadn't paid attention to Kaepernick between the time he was the future of the QB position and his current protest. What happened in between? He's a backup now? How much of his protest is based on resentment about that?

    More generally, how embarrassing is it for the Obama fanboys that this protest is happening after nearly two full terms of him as president?

    I knew Obama wouldn't improve race relations (to use that euphemism) because I saw what happened with Dinkins in New York. Same expectations, but Obama has actually managed to do worse.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Ken

    Good point; he’s playing behind Blaine Gabbert, a truly awful white QB. Must really sting.

  164. Standing for the anthemn, I mean, not the stupid pledge of obedience.

    Kaepernick: “it’s all about me. I’m riding the bench, so I’m bored, and I sure as hell don’t care about any disruptions my behavior may cause to the team, or for the starting QB, so, I think I’ll troll the media.”

    Guy either must really not want a job after SF dumps him, or he must know a lot of especially idiotic radical leftist GMs.

  165. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous

    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they're busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They're internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Crawfurdmuir, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Anonymous, @Front toward enemy, @L Woods

    That is still an order of magnitude above watching a rabble of double digit IQ thugs throw a ball around.

  166. @Anonymous
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    How is it that taking liberal position will never lead to being ostracized, even when most of your audience probably thinks and votes conservative? The NFL and ESPN would collapse if white guys were more principled.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    ESPN is so pozzed that it’s quickly becoming unwatchable for average cracker-men. Sometimes I’ll hit the gym at lunch time and pass by the TVs.

    Today as a random sample:
    ESPN: SportsCenter w/ Cari Champion (black, female)
    ESPN 2: His & Hers w/ Michael Smith (black, male) and Jemele Hill (black female)

    Topic of discussion:
    -Kaepernick, Kaepernick and more Kaepernick
    -NCAA removing various championship tournaments from North Carolina because those reactionary Neanderthals insist that only women use the women’s locker rooms.
    -Adam Jones lamenting how MLB doesn’t encourage Kaepernick-like protests because “baseball is a white man’s sport”.

    The “30 for 30” documentaries started out kinda awesomely a few years ago, but now every other episode is LGBTQ or Grrrl Power themed.

    As fate would have it, ESPN has lost 3.2 million subscribers over the past year.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2015/07/12/losing-millions-of-subscribers-espn-now-facing-tough-decisions/#24f4440b4df4

    Let it burn.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    And Dan Retard, I mean le Betard, on Highly Questionable just referred to the Washington Redskins as the Washington Racial Slurs. Ha ha ha.

    Now they are talking about the NCAA pulling events out of NC because trannies.

    I use the mute button a lot.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Forbes

  167. @Anonymous
    With a black majority in the NFL, did anyone really not see this coming? Blacks protesting their poor downtroddeness and a Jew giving voice to their alleged suffering? Does this not fit the Template?

    And as in everything else it reforms, "the touch that turns everything to shit" will destroy the NFL. This is what I meant when I commented that blacks and Jews destroy everything they touch whether it be neighborhoods, financial markets, the Soviet Union or American social concord. Why is that?

    I, personally, can't stand incompetence. Of blacks I expect little else, they are perennial misfits. My bone to pick with Jews is not with their intelligence or any of their other alleged inadequacies, but with their nincompoopery. They ruin everything they succeed in. Some people see this as deliberate wrecking but I give them the benefit of the doubt and presume it is from some terrible blind spot in the middle of their field of vision.

    They are fatally flawed in the Greek Tragedy sense. Give them the lead role and they, through arrogance and excessive self regard, blunder badly. Misfortune follows and they stumble about on stage, crying out to the audience, Gods and Chorus for pity and for guidance in perceiving where to turn, what to do next.

    Because they can't distance themselves from themselves, can't hold a mirror up to themselves or fly above themselves and regard themselves impersonally from a great height, they can't see that it is their very character with its strengths which is the cause of their own misfortune.

    It is relevant in this context to note that the image or icon of a transcendent Bird plays little role in Jewish mythology (other than Noah's raven). Virtually every civilization worshiped a bird of one sort or another as a symbol of transcendent foresight. For the Greeks, augury was the seer's art of reading the future as interpreted in the flight of cranes and hawks. From it's great heights, the bird sees the big picture whereas for man, what lies beyond the next turn in the road is hidden and so the man who is deficient in transcendental oversight must try to foretell his future by working out the chain of events implicit in the unfolding of his own character in the world. He must, "Know Thyself".

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is...

    Well put.

  168. @pepperinmono
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    My own least favorite is Bob Costas with the face lift and plastic dyed hair. Did you see him interviewing Johnny Weir during Olympics. Hilarious! Bob thinks he is safe, but he will be the first to go once the barbarians are at the gate.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Bob Costas….. the epitome of “backpfeifengesicht”.

  169. @27 year old
    @Anonymous

    That's previous level crazy talk, the new new is that our daughters don't belong in institutions of learning

    Replies: @Desiderius

    our daughters don’t belong in institutions of learning

    Where are these institutions of which you speak?

  170. @pepperinmono
    @Spmoore8

    Tom Wolfe also has hilarious and spot on stuff about black and white interrelationships in basketball in I Am Charlotte Simmons.
    Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports.
    One has to get over this if one is white and expects to excel.
    Not everyone can or wants to .
    I once played this pretty good chess player black dude.
    For him it was "street chess".
    He would glare at me , mumble trash talk, slam moved pieces hard on the table "in your face" style.
    Just like playing basketball with them.
    It was unnerving at first.
    All athletes/competitors do this to a certain extent, but blacks have it down to a science.
    If they detect it bothers you , it can be relentless.

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports.

    In sports?

    This is the principle dynamic of our time.

    They’re not just trying, they’ve run the table.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Desiderius

    "Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports."

    I think I've told this anecdote before, but here goes again. A (white) man who played football at an SEC school some years ago told my brother something about the experience.

    He said the players "are a bunch of thugs. The only way to deal with them is to stand your ground and don't back down."

    Replies: @Desiderius

  171. @Danindc
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Sports radio has the lowest bar of any entertainment product and nobody can get over it. Every show sucks. Especially on Espn. Cowherd is a huge cuck as well.

    Jim Rome was good 15 years ago if that means anything.

    Replies: @Gunnar von Cowtown

    Yeah, Jim Rome had one hell of a good run.

    Cowherd…. He suffered from Howard Stern Syndrome.

    Pre-Divorce: Witty, self-depreciating and relatable (his best work is found here)
    Post-Divorce: Kind of a dick (phoning it in)

  172. @Sunbeam
    @rod1963

    "Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary."

    Yeah. There is another related angle to this whole thing though.

    My younger relatives have no link or real interest in sports of any sort. They didn't play them in high school, didn't really bother to attend games either.

    They have no knowledge or interest in basketball, football, baseball, soccer, etc. And the members of their circle of friends don't seem to have any interest in any of it either.

    Just saying that aside from the whole ESPN bundled cable package thing, the pro sports leagues in this country are going to have a heck of a problem with exactly who is going to be their viewerbase in 20 years.

    Because to my eyes at least they have a heck of a problem in that regard coming down the pike, let alone the cord cutting thing.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Jim Don Bob

    Agreed. There are no more pickup games among white boys anymore. If you are not in competitive leagues by 9 or 10 there are very limited chances to play organized sports past the above ages. So these kids have no interest in “team” sports.

  173. @Sunbeam
    @rod1963

    "Computers and the internet have wrecked socialization and face to face interaction. What I see happening with the younger kids is scary."

    Yeah. There is another related angle to this whole thing though.

    My younger relatives have no link or real interest in sports of any sort. They didn't play them in high school, didn't really bother to attend games either.

    They have no knowledge or interest in basketball, football, baseball, soccer, etc. And the members of their circle of friends don't seem to have any interest in any of it either.

    Just saying that aside from the whole ESPN bundled cable package thing, the pro sports leagues in this country are going to have a heck of a problem with exactly who is going to be their viewerbase in 20 years.

    Because to my eyes at least they have a heck of a problem in that regard coming down the pike, let alone the cord cutting thing.

    Replies: @The preferred nomenclature is..., @Jim Don Bob

    And the NFL will have a heck of a time getting players as parents increasingly keep their kids out of Pop Warner football. There have even been a few pros (some black) who have quit while still active because they didn’t want to end up like Junior Seau.

  174. Slightly OT: Neil de Grasse Tyson is on ESPN’s Sports Nation explaining how football would look on another planet. Sheesh.

  175. @whorefinder
    @Triumph104

    The level of "black lady doctors" marrying lower-IQ tough guys seems to be a combination of things:

    (1) These affirmative action doctors are not as smart as the average doctor. (Q:"What do they call the person who finishes last in the medical school class? A: Doctor.")

    (2) Celebrity blinds a lot of people, men and women, to a mate's potential problems. The cliche about the foolish old rich man going gaga over some pretty young blond actress who needs his money didn't come from nowhere. Women, too, throw themselves at singers and actors because of one hit movie or one hit song.

    (3) Florence Nightingale syndrome (all three of these guys got injured regularly, thanks to their professions--Jai White was a martial artist before acting)

    (4) Black worship of the thug culture (all three of these guys are bruisers)

    (5) Natural West-African feral nature showing through, where the women provide for the delinquent men.

    (6) Finally, Strong Black Woman (SBW) syndrome, a distinctlyAmerican problem. SBW's are constantly bitching about how there "are no good black men" around, all the while having exacting standards for the black men they want ("thug in the streets/playa in the sheets/sophisticated man of means") that no man could ever meet.

    Decent black guys complain about SBW's all the time, and often say they gave up dating them because of this. And SBWs eventually admit that non-black men won't have touch them with a ten-foot pole. In desperation, SBWs marry down to a thug or a no-good "playa", figuring they can fix him or at least get something out of life. Or they find some milquetoast brother that they hound into misery because he's not some rap-video-image of perfection (See Michelle Obama, miserable with Barry O., the freakin' president).

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Whorefinder, you have been on fire lately. Maybe you should give HRC some of the drugs you’ve been taking. 😉

  176. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    @Anonymous

    ESPN is so pozzed that it's quickly becoming unwatchable for average cracker-men. Sometimes I'll hit the gym at lunch time and pass by the TVs.

    Today as a random sample:
    ESPN: SportsCenter w/ Cari Champion (black, female)
    ESPN 2: His & Hers w/ Michael Smith (black, male) and Jemele Hill (black female)

    Topic of discussion:
    -Kaepernick, Kaepernick and more Kaepernick
    -NCAA removing various championship tournaments from North Carolina because those reactionary Neanderthals insist that only women use the women's locker rooms.
    -Adam Jones lamenting how MLB doesn't encourage Kaepernick-like protests because "baseball is a white man's sport".

    The "30 for 30" documentaries started out kinda awesomely a few years ago, but now every other episode is LGBTQ or Grrrl Power themed.

    As fate would have it, ESPN has lost 3.2 million subscribers over the past year.
    http://www.forbes.com/sites/vincentfrank/2015/07/12/losing-millions-of-subscribers-espn-now-facing-tough-decisions/#24f4440b4df4

    Let it burn.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    And Dan Retard, I mean le Betard, on Highly Questionable just referred to the Washington Redskins as the Washington Racial Slurs. Ha ha ha.

    Now they are talking about the NCAA pulling events out of NC because trannies.

    I use the mute button a lot.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Jim Don Bob

    I made the call today to cut my cable and drop Espn. Couldn't go through with it though. May call again in a few months.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux, @Anonymous, @Desiderius

    , @Forbes
    @Jim Don Bob

    Muted is the only way I watch TV sports, while at the same time reading a book that is more engaging than the game. The commercials are mind-numbingly frequent, consuming at leat one-third of the broadcast time. The replays are endless--you can't possibly miss any action. The on-screen graphics describes the current in-game situation. The announcers simply report what you've just watched--apparently unaware of the concept of visual media. There simply isn't any evidence that listening to a TV sports broadcast is necessary.

  177. @Jefferson
    @Dave Pinsen

    "I knew Obama wouldn’t improve race relations"

    The Left will say Obama is not to blame for the worsening of race relations in the last 8 years, they will say it's the fault of Republicans, White people in general, Breitbart, Conservative talk radio, Fox News, the Alt-Right, White police officers, Donald Trump, Ann Coulter, and the KKK.

    Replies: @Gato de la Biblioteca

    You forgot Pepe the Frog. Must’n’t forget Pepe.

  178. @Svigor
    Black public figure admits to expecting "deference" from whites, news at 11.

    Deference toward blacks, I get a math error on that one.

    Replies: @ogunsiron

    At first you hear about this stuff happening in the education or social work dept at some obscure school. You read that at that particular school, white students were told in class and in the dorms that they had to treat black/POC students with deference, You figure that for sure the student body had revolted and that what you read was an example of the antiwhite academia just pushing things too far, too soon.

    Then you read about this deference stuff in a major publication and you realize that the idea was pushed in schools and planted into minds several years ago and *the seeds have succesfully sprouted*. A significant number of white* people now believe that it’s their duty to treat random black “folks” with completely undeserved deference.

    * I understand we’re dealing with a ((( white ))) here but I’ve been reading stuff from genuine white people lately who are internalizing that stuff. Incredible.

  179. Proximity to blacks has helped me understand them all too well.

  180. @WJ
    @whorefinder

    Journalism majors were always the weakest intellectually, on campus. It is an easy major but unfortunately, a select few make it to the larger arena and they are able to actually shape public thought. I believe that is why, especially on topics associated with science and engineering such as energy production, the reporting is so irrational. Well written irrational, but still irrational.

    Then below those mental midgets we call traditional journalists, you have sports journalists. The dumbest of the dumn

    Replies: @guest

    They have competition from the education and communications departments, but yes, they are stupid.

  181. @Svigor

    You could be learning a language, getting exercise, reading Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, maintaining your home, picking up a new skill, taking a free online course, working a few extra hours at your trade or profession.
     
    Learning to put down man-sized targets at 200 yds...

    The league should crack down hard on protesting players. Protest on your own time or get fired. The league should also get the flag, the pledge and the military OUT of the game. It’s supposed to be about football and money.
     
    The flag, the pledge, and the military are there because they make the League money. The protesting is probably costing them money, long-term. Bench-riding Kaepernick is definitely in the red column.

    Replies: @L Woods

    In fact, DoD apparently pays the NFL to put on the flag waving theater act, at least according to what I’ve overheard.

  182. L Woods says:
    @David In TN
    @Desiderius

    Another point. These NFL morons "exercising their rights" as per usual, have no sense of irony.

    If this is such a rotten, evil, racist country, why are they allowed the "right" to spit on the flag and those who died for it? Why dies "Racist America" permit them to protest? Wouldn't they be penalized for doing so if America was what they say it is?

    They and their supporters are too stupid to grasp this truth.

    Replies: @L Woods

    That is my true source of loathing for these cretins. Their lack of fealty to the Stars and Stripes per se doesn’t bother me. Honestly, I actually don’t necessarily blame black Americans for not identifying with the United States and its historical symbols. The country was not, indeed, founded with their inclusion in mind. It’s their parroting of inane BLM/SJW boilerplate that earns me contempt.

    It seems only a matter of time before the baby is stretched in two and both major political coalitions no longer identify with the U.S. That will be an interesting day indeed.

  183. @Triumph104
    @Steve Sailer

    Both Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield were married to physicians, which shows the level of desperation of even highly educated black women.

    Actor and martial artist Michael Jai White was also married to a physician. She asked him to marry her and she paid all the bills including his acting lessons. Years after he divorced her, he wrote an open letter to all of his exes confessing that until his current relationship, he had no idea why his exes wanted to be close to him.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/15/michael-jai-white-facebook-apology-ex-girlfriends_n_7073324.html

    Replies: @whorefinder, @Truth

    Yeah, nothing signals desperation in a woman like marrying a wealthy, young,muscular, sought-after, internationally-famous, professional athlete

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    @Truth

    Neither boxer was married to their doctor wife for longer than five years. As for sought-after, Tyson and Holyfield have about 20 children total. Both went bankrupt. Holyfield almost went to jail for unpaid child support.

    Their ex-wives could have just married some random low IQ, muscular, community baby daddy from the neighborhood and wound up with the same results.

    Replies: @Truth

  184. @Gunnar von Cowtown
    I used to listen to a lot of sports talk radio, ESPN radio, etc. While sports media types were previously apolitical or merely toed the PC line with qualified reservations, ESPN has gone full SJW in the past few years. The Michael Sam debacle was when it really became clear, as none of the ESPN radio/TV personalities had anything to say other than "This is really, really wonderful. I love gay homosexuals. I would be delighted to shower with gay homosexuals in my NFL locker room." In fact, the commentary was so lock-step, I'd be surprised if sticking to pre-scripted bullet points enforcing The Narrative isn't a condition of employment for ESPN sports ""journalists"".

    Making an example out of Colin Cowherd for noticing Dominican academic achievement showed that ESPN was willing to enforce adherence The Narrative at all costs.

    I don't listen much anymore, as Dan Le Batard (Cowherd's replacement) is the sports talk equivalent of "Ow! My Balls!" However, any time I surf through hoping for some local coverage, all talking heads are supportive of Kaepernick and ""opening up a national discussion"".

    I sincerely hope the lying or cognitive dissonance gives them all ulcers. Especially Mike & Mike.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Anonymous, @pepperinmono, @The Anti-Gnostic

    I listened to an astounding Colin Cowherd riff on the Wonderlic test about a year ago. I bet he reads iSteve.

  185. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they’re busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They’re internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts
     
    I agree that learning a language or reading a dry history book for no apparent reason doesn't seem fun. But why not a fun leisure activity that also promotes intellectual growth? Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc., which makes you want to learn fundamental principles of physics, engineering, etc. There's nothing better than a hobby you get so passionate about you love to learn new things, even technical things. E.g., Physics for Gearheads.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun, @E. Rekshun, @Marty

    Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc.,

    Sounds like great fun, but these “leisure activities” are far, far too expensive for the average working American trying to pay the mortgage, raise a family, and save for retirement. Heck, these leisure activities have ruined many marriages and retirements.

  186. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they’re busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They’re internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts
     
    I agree that learning a language or reading a dry history book for no apparent reason doesn't seem fun. But why not a fun leisure activity that also promotes intellectual growth? Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc., which makes you want to learn fundamental principles of physics, engineering, etc. There's nothing better than a hobby you get so passionate about you love to learn new things, even technical things. E.g., Physics for Gearheads.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun, @E. Rekshun, @Marty

    Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc.,

    I have, on the other had, been a long-time boater, having bought my first one – a 15 foot w/ a 50HP outboard – for $800 at age 18. A very expensive and time-consuming leisure activity. It will, however, keep you away from the idiot box and sports TV on the weekend.

    Some other posters mentioned shop class. At my high school during the late ’70s – early ’80s, I was on a typical college prep track but also took four years of shop electives – auto repair, carpentry, and metal working. Back then my community also offered free (or nearly free) vocational training for adults that were interested in learning hands-on skills. Night classes were held at the high school. As a young adult, I took welding, firearm safety, and boating safety classes. I don’t see much of this offered anymore; the young people I know wouldn’t be interested anyway.

  187. @Jim Don Bob
    @whorefinder

    Well said. I see Bob Ryan from time to time on Around the Horn and PTI. I like what he says but he does look old and pissed.

    Another reason sportswriters tend to go left is that everyone sees them as jock sniffers, so they try to prove themselves as "real" journalists by being more PC than the WaPo.

    Replies: @Matra, @Forbes

    Of all the American sportswriters who appear on the Toronto sports radio station I occasionally listen to online Bob Ryan was less negative towards Tim Tebow and Tim Thomas (the Bruins goalie who refused to meet Obama and who supported Chick-Fil-A). I happened to hear him last night saying he can’t imagine what “African Americans” have to go through. That Ryan comes across as less belligerent and more reasonable than virtually all the mainstream sports writers/broadcasters shows how extreme they have become.

    Another reason sportswriters tend to go left is that everyone sees them as jock sniffers, so they try to prove themselves as “real” journalists by being more PC than the WaPo.

    Exactly. They suffer from status anxiety. They also seem to be obsessed with Hollywood and cable news. Sportswriters are heavily influenced by old media.

    • Replies: @Ganderson
    @Matra

    The description of sportswriters that most of you have retailed here seems about right to me.I like Ryan, though, even though he's a hoops guy, and I'm not. I sat next to him at EWR once, and had a nice conversation with him about a column he'd written. If he was merely humoring me, he did a good job of disguising it. Another guy I like is Pat Reusse of the Minnepolis Star-Trib. A lefty, to be sure, but sensible in a lot of ways.

    Replies: @Brutusale

  188. @Desiderius
    @pepperinmono


    Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports.
     
    In sports?

    This is the principle dynamic of our time.

    They're not just trying, they've run the table.

    Replies: @David In TN

    “Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports.”

    I think I’ve told this anecdote before, but here goes again. A (white) man who played football at an SEC school some years ago told my brother something about the experience.

    He said the players “are a bunch of thugs. The only way to deal with them is to stand your ground and don’t back down.”

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @David In TN


    He said the players “are a bunch of thugs. The only way to deal with them is to stand your ground and don’t back down.”
     
    Again, it's not just players. Even the talented tenth know how to do it when they need to. Just about all blacks will shit test you at one point or another. They prefer whites who pass, but will use those who don't.

    One thing you hardly ever see these days is the same dynamic with the races reversed. Collinsworth* was trolling talented tenth extraordinaire Mike Tirico on Sunday Night Football this weekend. First time I can remember seeing that in a long time. Wonder if it was planned to make Tony Dungy's (excellent) speech go down smoother.

    * - one of the few out and proud non-Progs.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

  189. @Jim Don Bob
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    And Dan Retard, I mean le Betard, on Highly Questionable just referred to the Washington Redskins as the Washington Racial Slurs. Ha ha ha.

    Now they are talking about the NCAA pulling events out of NC because trannies.

    I use the mute button a lot.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Forbes

    I made the call today to cut my cable and drop Espn. Couldn’t go through with it though. May call again in a few months.

    • Replies: @Bleuteaux
    @Danindc

    Just do it and get it over with. If you really *need* ESPN there are a dozen ways to get it cheaper than cable anyway.

    My old man complains about cable every single time I see him but he still writes that check every month.

    , @Anonymous
    @Danindc

    Don't you value the time you have left on this planet? Viewing ESPN is how you choose to spend that time? Sad!

    , @Desiderius
    @Danindc

    It's easier than you think. If you really need to see something, it will be on at the local bar. And of course you can catch the highlights online.

    Replies: @Danindc

  190. @Matra
    @Jim Don Bob

    Of all the American sportswriters who appear on the Toronto sports radio station I occasionally listen to online Bob Ryan was less negative towards Tim Tebow and Tim Thomas (the Bruins goalie who refused to meet Obama and who supported Chick-Fil-A). I happened to hear him last night saying he can't imagine what "African Americans" have to go through. That Ryan comes across as less belligerent and more reasonable than virtually all the mainstream sports writers/broadcasters shows how extreme they have become.

    Another reason sportswriters tend to go left is that everyone sees them as jock sniffers, so they try to prove themselves as “real” journalists by being more PC than the WaPo.

    Exactly. They suffer from status anxiety. They also seem to be obsessed with Hollywood and cable news. Sportswriters are heavily influenced by old media.

    Replies: @Ganderson

    The description of sportswriters that most of you have retailed here seems about right to me.I like Ryan, though, even though he’s a hoops guy, and I’m not. I sat next to him at EWR once, and had a nice conversation with him about a column he’d written. If he was merely humoring me, he did a good job of disguising it. Another guy I like is Pat Reusse of the Minnepolis Star-Trib. A lefty, to be sure, but sensible in a lot of ways.

    • Replies: @Brutusale
    @Ganderson

    Not many people have much bad to say about Ryan, whose on-air personality is much more grating than it is one-to-one. His aforementioned former coworker at the Boston Globe, Dan Shaughnessy, is just a chinless ass. He one of those lefties who firmly believes that he's committing journalism.

  191. @David In TN
    @Desiderius

    "Blacks try to intimidate whites in sports."

    I think I've told this anecdote before, but here goes again. A (white) man who played football at an SEC school some years ago told my brother something about the experience.

    He said the players "are a bunch of thugs. The only way to deal with them is to stand your ground and don't back down."

    Replies: @Desiderius

    He said the players “are a bunch of thugs. The only way to deal with them is to stand your ground and don’t back down.”

    Again, it’s not just players. Even the talented tenth know how to do it when they need to. Just about all blacks will shit test you at one point or another. They prefer whites who pass, but will use those who don’t.

    One thing you hardly ever see these days is the same dynamic with the races reversed. Collinsworth* was trolling talented tenth extraordinaire Mike Tirico on Sunday Night Football this weekend. First time I can remember seeing that in a long time. Wonder if it was planned to make Tony Dungy’s (excellent) speech go down smoother.

    * – one of the few out and proud non-Progs.

    • Replies: @Jim Don Bob
    @Desiderius

    Agree that what Dungy said was very good. His dad told him, "Will what you are doing make things better?"

    Replies: @Desiderius

  192. @SMK
    @Jefferson

    Why would any sane white person, much less an "alt-rightist," live in a city or town that is 75% black if he's free and able to live in a city or suburb that is 80-90% white? And "brag" about this choice? Why -to prove he's not a "racist"? Is he a masochist with a desire to be hated, harassed, assaulted, mugged, and worse? Perhaps his choice to live in such a place is explained by his grotesquely irrational, obsessive, virulent, and demented hatred of white females.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Stealth

    “Why would any sane white person, much less an “alt-rightist,” live in a city or town that is 75% black if he’s free and able to live in a city or suburb that is 80-90% white? And “brag” about this choice?”

    He was bragging to point out the hypocrisy of Barack Hussein Obama not wanting to live in areas where his sons are in the majority. Barack says diversity is our strength, but he does not believe this in his personal life. Barack talks the talk while Jim walks the walk.

    • Replies: @Jim Christian
    @Jefferson

    No more fervent believers in diversity than those Whites in all-White neighborhoods.

    Replies: @David In TN

  193. @Anonymous
    @Anonymous


    Or you could just waste your time on Twitter or watch Netflix, which is basically what people who profess to be above watching sports do.

    I agree that watching sports is a waste of time, but these holier than thou types on the right are insufferable. Who the hell are they kidding? Nobody believes for a second that they’re busy learning a new language or reading Gibbon. They’re internet addicts frittering their time on Twitter and listening to obscure podcasts
     
    I agree that learning a language or reading a dry history book for no apparent reason doesn't seem fun. But why not a fun leisure activity that also promotes intellectual growth? Get into auto racing, flying, scuba diving, etc., which makes you want to learn fundamental principles of physics, engineering, etc. There's nothing better than a hobby you get so passionate about you love to learn new things, even technical things. E.g., Physics for Gearheads.

    Replies: @E. Rekshun, @E. Rekshun, @Marty

    I have a question for you. Have technology improvements made it feasible to scuba dive alone?

  194. @SMK
    @Jefferson

    Why would any sane white person, much less an "alt-rightist," live in a city or town that is 75% black if he's free and able to live in a city or suburb that is 80-90% white? And "brag" about this choice? Why -to prove he's not a "racist"? Is he a masochist with a desire to be hated, harassed, assaulted, mugged, and worse? Perhaps his choice to live in such a place is explained by his grotesquely irrational, obsessive, virulent, and demented hatred of white females.

    Replies: @Jefferson, @Stealth

    If I’m not mistaken, Jim Goad isn’t a man of exceptional means. I think he once said he hasn’t had a car less than a decade old for a long time.

  195. @E. Rekshun
    @rod1963

    Good post!

    Popular Mechanics

    Yes. I just renewed my $15 annual subscription to Popular Mechanics, and it offered two additional free subscriptions for two friends! It's excellent! On the other hand, I recently let my ESPN Magazine subscription expire - it was nothing but black athlete worship and anti-White criticism. Sports Illustrated is getting just as bad.

    And I worked at Radio Shack during college.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @Bill Jones

    Yup, PM is about at the point where they pay you to read their ads.

  196. @Desiderius
    @David In TN


    He said the players “are a bunch of thugs. The only way to deal with them is to stand your ground and don’t back down.”
     
    Again, it's not just players. Even the talented tenth know how to do it when they need to. Just about all blacks will shit test you at one point or another. They prefer whites who pass, but will use those who don't.

    One thing you hardly ever see these days is the same dynamic with the races reversed. Collinsworth* was trolling talented tenth extraordinaire Mike Tirico on Sunday Night Football this weekend. First time I can remember seeing that in a long time. Wonder if it was planned to make Tony Dungy's (excellent) speech go down smoother.

    * - one of the few out and proud non-Progs.

    Replies: @Jim Don Bob

    Agree that what Dungy said was very good. His dad told him, “Will what you are doing make things better?”

    • Replies: @Desiderius
    @Jim Don Bob


    Agree that what Dungy said was very good.
     
    And the way he said it was even better. Dude is the talented .00o01%.

    He even managed to do it in a way that lost him no blackness cred at the same time. That's a hell of a needle.

    The fruits of a life of humble faith.
  197. @Anonymous
    @Chase

    Ryan is neither drunk nor cynic. He remains enthusiastic about his subjects in his "retirement." He's also not a sports-only guy; he travels the world, spends time with grandchildren and appreciates culture, such as it is. Is he a liberal? Probably, but he surely "notices," even if he's commercially-inclined enough to keep things to himself.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Danindc

    Thank you Mrs. Ryan.

  198. @Danindc
    @Jim Don Bob

    I made the call today to cut my cable and drop Espn. Couldn't go through with it though. May call again in a few months.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux, @Anonymous, @Desiderius

    Just do it and get it over with. If you really *need* ESPN there are a dozen ways to get it cheaper than cable anyway.

    My old man complains about cable every single time I see him but he still writes that check every month.

  199. @Danindc
    @Jim Don Bob

    I made the call today to cut my cable and drop Espn. Couldn't go through with it though. May call again in a few months.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux, @Anonymous, @Desiderius

    Don’t you value the time you have left on this planet? Viewing ESPN is how you choose to spend that time? Sad!

  200. @whorefinder
    Also, sportswriting is one of the saddest careers for men out there that most men think would be awesome.

    The guys who end up as sportswriters were the waterboys and timekeepers back in high school and college----couldn't make the team, but desperately worshiped the players, and thought that helping the team made them "one of the jocks." The jocks laughed at them, but they pretended not to notice.

    Later, they get a job as a sports reporter, and yippee! Get paid to watch sports and write about sports! Hooray!

    Except, as time goes on, they start to notice things. Like how shitty they get paid. How the players don't respect them. How the players aren't cool guys, but overgrown children with natural talent. How the players cheat on their wives, throw games, and use steroids. How life on the road as a reporter is cool at first and then wears you out.

    And then there's the stories they have to write--all cliche, no substance. Write something too critical of a black player or black behavior, and you'll be tarred as a racist and never work again. Same with a female athlete and sexist.

    Try to write about a player having a bad night because his wife slept with someone else on the team, and the article won't get through, and the player will go after you and you'll be banned from the lockerroom---cutting your career off.

    And don't even think about investigating or writing about players throwing games or using steroids. No reporter ever gets to break that story. Nope, the league must announce it first, and then you can write about the aftermath....so long as you downplay it.

    And your stories must always push the Leftist Agenda---blacks either superior or oppressed; women as good as men; all races as equal, etc.

    So your stories become the same old tripe and nonsense, year after year. Nothing ever changes, you never evolve beyond a certain point.

    Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.

    True Believers are like Bill Simmons, who promoted Obama, worships NBA players, and constantly covers up Black Bad Behavior; their cult-like blindness is self-induced and is foremost evidence of brainwashed Crimestop.

    Drunk Cynics just hate themselves for being nothing more than copywriters for advertising for people to watch Local Sports Team, which they know is filled with horrible human beings just playing a silly kid's game.

    The sad fate of a sportswriter? Here's one I saw: Bob Ryan. For decades, he was the basketball writer in Boston for the Celtics, and co-wrote many a players' biography, including Larry Bird's. He retired in the last few years and released a memoir of his years of service, and appeared at Barnes & Nobles in the Boston area to promote it.

    I happened to walk in to a B&N to buy a book when I saw the promotion there. There was the legendary Bob Ryan, award-winning sports "journalist," sitting behind a table----with the entire seating area empty and no one in line to see him. And his promotion had started a half-hour or so before hand. All alone, old, and completely unfamous. He looked miserable as he checked his phone.

    He sold his soul....for nothing.

    Replies: @415 reasons, @Chrisnonymous, @Chase, @Clyde, @WJ, @Brutusale, @Brutusale, @Jim Don Bob, @Truth, @BB753

    “Sportswriters end up one of two ways: True Believers and Drunk Cynics.”

    So where does Buzz Bissinger fit in?

  201. @Neil Templeton
    ...even in a deplorable space like the NFL, where you sacrifice privacy for the opportunity to make a 7 or 8 figure income, global recognition plus benefits, and fantastic attention from millions regarding adolescent, even juvenile choices.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    …even in a deplorable space like the NFL, where you sacrifice privacy for the opportunity to make a 7 or 8 figure income, global recognition plus benefits, and fantastic attention from millions regarding adolescent, even juvenile choices.

    And pussy. End of the day, end of the road is pussy. And lots of it. For young men, that is the point of it all.

    • Replies: @Neil Templeton
    @Jim Christian

    Yes. The force that split the atom. Men defer to reason when sexual satisfaction is not available. Of course when "plus benefits" is on the menu, higher cognition is absent.

    , @ben tillman
    @Jim Christian


    And pussy. End of the day, end of the road is pussy. And lots of it. For young men, that is the point of it all.
     
    He mentioned that, euphemistically.
  202. @Forbes
    @George

    How many jerseys were sold to get to #1? 20? 30?

    $150 to own a bench-sitting QB's jersey. That's some cuck.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    Kids in the ghetto are buying those things. Same morons that buy Jordan’s sneakers.

    • Replies: @Forbes
    @Jim Christian

    I dunno. Jordan had a career as a superstar. Do ghetto kids buy jerseys worn by a bench-warmer?

    Replies: @Triumph104

  203. @Jefferson
    @SMK

    "Why would any sane white person, much less an “alt-rightist,” live in a city or town that is 75% black if he’s free and able to live in a city or suburb that is 80-90% white? And “brag” about this choice?"

    He was bragging to point out the hypocrisy of Barack Hussein Obama not wanting to live in areas where his sons are in the majority. Barack says diversity is our strength, but he does not believe this in his personal life. Barack talks the talk while Jim walks the walk.

    Replies: @Jim Christian

    No more fervent believers in diversity than those Whites in all-White neighborhoods.

    • Replies: @David In TN
    @Jim Christian

    "No more fervent believers in diversity than those Whites in all-White neighborhoods."

    And how. I've seen many examples. Want me to name one? Why the great anti-racist Tim Wise himself.

    A few years ago his address in Nashville was put on the internet. I drove by his McMansion, not a black person anywhere in sight. There was a golf course in walking distance, several elderly white men were playing on a sunny afternoon.

  204. @Jim Don Bob
    @Desiderius

    Agree that what Dungy said was very good. His dad told him, "Will what you are doing make things better?"

    Replies: @Desiderius

    Agree that what Dungy said was very good.

    And the way he said it was even better. Dude is the talented .00o01%.

    He even managed to do it in a way that lost him no blackness cred at the same time. That’s a hell of a needle.

    The fruits of a life of humble faith.

    • Agree: Jim Don Bob
  205. @Danindc
    @Jim Don Bob

    I made the call today to cut my cable and drop Espn. Couldn't go through with it though. May call again in a few months.

    Replies: @Bleuteaux, @Anonymous, @Desiderius

    It’s easier than you think. If you really need to see something, it will be on at the local bar. And of course you can catch the highlights online.

    • Replies: @Danindc
    @Desiderius

    F*ck it. I'm in. Cutting it the week. Thanks

  206. @Jim Christian
    @Jefferson

    No more fervent believers in diversity than those Whites in all-White neighborhoods.

    Replies: @David In TN

    “No more fervent believers in diversity than those Whites in all-White neighborhoods.”

    And how. I’ve seen many examples. Want me to name one? Why the great anti-racist Tim Wise himself.

    A few years ago his address in Nashville was put on the internet. I drove by his McMansion, not a black person anywhere in sight. There was a golf course in walking distance, several elderly white men were playing on a sunny afternoon.

  207. @jb
    "or even respectful deference"

    I think that a great deal of the rhetoric of racism can be interpreted as a focused effort to enforce deference. The goal is that whites should be conditioned to reflexively defer to blacks and their white allies on any issue that touches upon race, and to see this as the natural order of things. Once you've established that when it comes to race, whites are given to self-delusion, while blacks can never be deluded, everything else follows without effort.

    Replies: @AndrewR, @Drake

    The goal is that whites should be conditioned to reflexively defer to blacks and their white allies on any issue that touches upon race

    This is insightful. It explains how anti-white prejudice allows some whites to gain power over the other whites, by posing as allies of nonwhites.

    It delegitimizes old authorities while creating new ones, and makes it “racist” to criticize them.

  208. @Truth
    @Triumph104

    Yeah, nothing signals desperation in a woman like marrying a wealthy, young,muscular, sought-after, internationally-famous, professional athlete

    Replies: @Triumph104

    Neither boxer was married to their doctor wife for longer than five years. As for sought-after, Tyson and Holyfield have about 20 children total. Both went bankrupt. Holyfield almost went to jail for unpaid child support.

    Their ex-wives could have just married some random low IQ, muscular, community baby daddy from the neighborhood and wound up with the same results.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Triumph104




    Their ex-wives could have just married some random low IQ, muscular, community baby daddy from the neighborhood and wound up with the same results.
     
    You live a little to far from reality to have a conversation with, my friend. As the great John Henrik Clarke once said;

    -I only debate my intellectual equals, all others, I teach.
  209. @Jim Christian
    @Neil Templeton


    …even in a deplorable space like the NFL, where you sacrifice privacy for the opportunity to make a 7 or 8 figure income, global recognition plus benefits, and fantastic attention from millions regarding adolescent, even juvenile choices.
     
    And pussy. End of the day, end of the road is pussy. And lots of it. For young men, that is the point of it all.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @ben tillman

    Yes. The force that split the atom. Men defer to reason when sexual satisfaction is not available. Of course when “plus benefits” is on the menu, higher cognition is absent.

  210. @Steve Sailer
    @Chrisnonymous

    I knew a black lady doctor who used to be married to the Heavyweight Champion of the World.

    Replies: @Chrisnonymous, @Lurker, @Brutusale, @Truth, @Triumph104, @MEH 0910

  211. @Triumph104
    @Truth

    Neither boxer was married to their doctor wife for longer than five years. As for sought-after, Tyson and Holyfield have about 20 children total. Both went bankrupt. Holyfield almost went to jail for unpaid child support.

    Their ex-wives could have just married some random low IQ, muscular, community baby daddy from the neighborhood and wound up with the same results.

    Replies: @Truth

    Their ex-wives could have just married some random low IQ, muscular, community baby daddy from the neighborhood and wound up with the same results.

    You live a little to far from reality to have a conversation with, my friend. As the great John Henrik Clarke once said;

    -I only debate my intellectual equals, all others, I teach.

  212. @Desiderius
    @Danindc

    It's easier than you think. If you really need to see something, it will be on at the local bar. And of course you can catch the highlights online.

    Replies: @Danindc

    F*ck it. I’m in. Cutting it the week. Thanks

  213. @Ganderson
    @Matra

    The description of sportswriters that most of you have retailed here seems about right to me.I like Ryan, though, even though he's a hoops guy, and I'm not. I sat next to him at EWR once, and had a nice conversation with him about a column he'd written. If he was merely humoring me, he did a good job of disguising it. Another guy I like is Pat Reusse of the Minnepolis Star-Trib. A lefty, to be sure, but sensible in a lot of ways.

    Replies: @Brutusale

    Not many people have much bad to say about Ryan, whose on-air personality is much more grating than it is one-to-one. His aforementioned former coworker at the Boston Globe, Dan Shaughnessy, is just a chinless ass. He one of those lefties who firmly believes that he’s committing journalism.

  214. @Anonymous
    @Chase

    Ryan is neither drunk nor cynic. He remains enthusiastic about his subjects in his "retirement." He's also not a sports-only guy; he travels the world, spends time with grandchildren and appreciates culture, such as it is. Is he a liberal? Probably, but he surely "notices," even if he's commercially-inclined enough to keep things to himself.

    Replies: @Bill Jones, @Danindc

    Agreed. He’s not bad. Knows a ton about basketball and is fun to listen to. There are far worse. He’s one of the good ones

  215. @Jim Don Bob
    @whorefinder

    Well said. I see Bob Ryan from time to time on Around the Horn and PTI. I like what he says but he does look old and pissed.

    Another reason sportswriters tend to go left is that everyone sees them as jock sniffers, so they try to prove themselves as "real" journalists by being more PC than the WaPo.

    Replies: @Matra, @Forbes

    Well they are jock sniffers–making a living off the jocks. That’s why more and more of the on-air TV commentators are former players or coaches. Some add insight–some. The jock sniffers are useless–verbally reporting what you’re watching, with strings of exclamations fitting for a cheerleader.

    Around the Horn, PTI, and sports-talk radio are extreme wastes of time–though, no doubt entertaining inanity for some audiences. Still, would the world be worse off if it never suffered the likes of Bob Ryan and his ilk?

  216. @Cloudbuster
    @Chrisnonymous

    Black woman with a white man? That's statistically pretty uncommon. Black men and white men prefer white and asian women. Is this women supposed to be some sort of Magic Negress?

    Replies: @Forbes

    Uncommon in the real world, but if you watch any television (or movies)–and thankfully, I watch little–white guys are regularly paired up with black women. Part of the propaganda to convince the public of its ‘normalcy.’

  217. @Jim Don Bob
    @Gunnar von Cowtown

    And Dan Retard, I mean le Betard, on Highly Questionable just referred to the Washington Redskins as the Washington Racial Slurs. Ha ha ha.

    Now they are talking about the NCAA pulling events out of NC because trannies.

    I use the mute button a lot.

    Replies: @Danindc, @Forbes

    Muted is the only way I watch TV sports, while at the same time reading a book that is more engaging than the game. The commercials are mind-numbingly frequent, consuming at leat one-third of the broadcast time. The replays are endless–you can’t possibly miss any action. The on-screen graphics describes the current in-game situation. The announcers simply report what you’ve just watched–apparently unaware of the concept of visual media. There simply isn’t any evidence that listening to a TV sports broadcast is necessary.

  218. @Jim Christian
    @Forbes

    Kids in the ghetto are buying those things. Same morons that buy Jordan's sneakers.

    Replies: @Forbes

    I dunno. Jordan had a career as a superstar. Do ghetto kids buy jerseys worn by a bench-warmer?

    • Replies: @Triumph104
    @Forbes

    Considering how much time this forum devotes to black behavior, there doesn't seem to be much understanding of black people.

    In addition to sport superstars, many black males look up to people who are anti-establishment or even criminal. As an example, many rappers are arrested and imprisoned after they become famous which usually helps their career. Tupac Shakur is a near-deity, yet a convicted rapist. Most of the "books every black person should read" lists recommend convicted cop-killer Assata Shakur's biography.

    Replies: @Truth

  219. @whorefinder
    Paul Kersey has said it best: it's time to stop watching American professional sports. They are an opiate of the masses and have been ruined by diversity/lefty politics.

    Replies: @Anonymous, @The preferred nomenclature is..., @L Woods, @No_0ne

    Not to mention that it’s time to stop funding the propaganda in general. If you still have cable/ satellite TV, you’re only encouraging them.

  220. @Forbes
    @Jim Christian

    I dunno. Jordan had a career as a superstar. Do ghetto kids buy jerseys worn by a bench-warmer?

    Replies: @Triumph104

    Considering how much time this forum devotes to black behavior, there doesn’t seem to be much understanding of black people.

    In addition to sport superstars, many black males look up to people who are anti-establishment or even criminal. As an example, many rappers are arrested and imprisoned after they become famous which usually helps their career. Tupac Shakur is a near-deity, yet a convicted rapist. Most of the “books every black person should read” lists recommend convicted cop-killer Assata Shakur’s biography.

    • Replies: @Truth
    @Triumph104

    And your idol is, who, Billy Graham?

  221. @Triumph104
    @Forbes

    Considering how much time this forum devotes to black behavior, there doesn't seem to be much understanding of black people.

    In addition to sport superstars, many black males look up to people who are anti-establishment or even criminal. As an example, many rappers are arrested and imprisoned after they become famous which usually helps their career. Tupac Shakur is a near-deity, yet a convicted rapist. Most of the "books every black person should read" lists recommend convicted cop-killer Assata Shakur's biography.

    Replies: @Truth

    And your idol is, who, Billy Graham?

  222. @Jim Christian
    @Neil Templeton


    …even in a deplorable space like the NFL, where you sacrifice privacy for the opportunity to make a 7 or 8 figure income, global recognition plus benefits, and fantastic attention from millions regarding adolescent, even juvenile choices.
     
    And pussy. End of the day, end of the road is pussy. And lots of it. For young men, that is the point of it all.

    Replies: @Neil Templeton, @ben tillman

    And pussy. End of the day, end of the road is pussy. And lots of it. For young men, that is the point of it all.

    He mentioned that, euphemistically.

  223. @Hepp
    Breitbart has a summary of the disgusting support that the ESPN announcers gave to this protest.

    http://www.breitbart.com/sports/2016/09/12/colin-kaepernick-takes-a-knee-during-national-anthem-before-taking-seat-for-49ers-opener/

    Steve Young, a pro-gay marriage Mormon, was absolutely ecstatic about the brilliant and deep thought that the protest represented.

    Will Trump pick up this issue?

    Replies: @gruff, @Dennis Dale

    Absolutely not! And he shouldn’t wring any more out of “deplorables”; that’s already into diminishing returns.

  224. @Kylie
    From the linked article: "Proximity to African Americans doesn’t guarantee understanding, empathy, or even respectful deference..."

    I have no doubt Leonard and his ilk have an even more draconian Plan B.

    Replies: @Louis Renault, @Dennis Dale

    Does anyone doubt proximity to blacks prompts “respectful deference”? Does this guy ever get out?

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